Thursday Morning News Dump (6/2/16) [Mis. Hum.]

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1 I just fart-raped my bloomers. What are you gonna say about that, city boy Bernie?

[CACKLE]

Posted by: Hilly Mae's Country Accent at June 02, 2016 07:41 AM (e8U/R)

2 *stretch*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 02, 2016 07:42 AM (NWP1/)

3 g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 02, 2016 07:43 AM (ZQfW9)

4 Corgis alerted....stampede any minute now....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 02, 2016 07:43 AM (NWP1/)

5 Curses, foiled again!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 07:43 AM (wYnyS)

6 Women don't fart, they fluff.

Posted by: Grump928(C) wonders why you didn't come to him like a fucking man at June 02, 2016 07:44 AM (rwI+c)

7 Morning

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 07:44 AM (zp+j1)

8 Horses sweat, men perspire, women glow.

Posted by: Grump928(C) wonders why you didn't come to him like a fucking man at June 02, 2016 07:44 AM (rwI+c)

9 Fartfignewton!

Posted by: guy who likes to say "Fartfignewton!" at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (BO/km)

10 Have you noticed a curiously large number of comments in various comment-permitting fora that are some variation of: "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

First of all, it's all too convenient that this formulation would start showing up now. Second, it's exactly what the Trump supporters want... that supporters of other candidates will "get on the Trump train;" and they probably think that it's more persuasive if this imperative is coming from other supporters of defeated campaigns. Third, it's the inevitable dig... "Cruz ran a shitty campaign" that just so neatly fits the nastiness of the Trump campaign: Yeah, we want your support, but we can't help ourselves making one more dig to rub it in.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

11 What's the over/under on the Houston shooter using a Fast and Furious weapon with Holder's fingerprints on it?

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 07:47 AM (wYnyS)

12 Good morning all.

The EZ Dog Journal from this date in 1944-

June 2, 1944
36 Div finished off Velletri. Some 250-300 PW's. Other fronts ioncluding II Corps and Eighth Army moving well forward. Official count thru VI Corps cage is well over 6,500 PW's, which is more than they took through the entire Italian campaign up to the time the present offensive started. Camino fell to our troops late in period. Mopping up continues.
The fog of battle hangs over all the country. Smoke, fog, and dust limits visibility to barely a mile. Without the war, undoubtedly this would be beautiful spring weather.

Sometimes my dad's writing bordered on poetic.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 07:47 AM (mvenn)

13 Have you noticed a curiously large number of comments in various comment-permitting fora that are some variation of: "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

First of all, it's all too convenient that this formulation would start showing up now. Second, it's exactly what the Trump supporters want... that supporters of other candidates will "get on the Trump train;" and they probably think that it's more persuasive if this imperative is coming from other supporters of defeated campaigns. Third, it's the inevitable dig... "Cruz ran a shitty campaign" that just so neatly fits the nastiness of the Trump campaign: Yeah, we want your support, but we can't help ourselves making one more dig to rub it in.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

Not sure what your problem is? Cruz did run a shitty campaign. I was a Cruz supporter. And what's your point?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 07:47 AM (zp+j1)

14

DAY 1,304

159 to go (232 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 02, 2016 07:48 AM (p4UlV)

15 On the verge of getting willowed in the ONT, this is for you, MPPP. *sprays Pleasures in the air, walks away*

MPPP, that's fascinating. I went in search of more info on her, and happened to come across this. Stevie Nicks actually wrote a song about Mabel, and how she saw her life paralleling Mabel's back in her wild days.

https://tinyurl.com/ht4q6po (link to HuffPoo)

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 02, 2016 07:49 AM (+FSld)

16 "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Cruz's campaign had some flaws. Scott Walker asked for others to quit a long time ago. John Katshit was most of the problem. Had it been Trump vs Cruz for a longer period of time I think things may have been different. That said, I can't vote for Trump-yet. Maybe I will maybe I wont.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 02, 2016 07:49 AM (voOPb)

17 All this fart-talk is just disgusting.

Posted by: Brawney Frank at June 02, 2016 07:51 AM (ZEzaq)

18 Bernie wants national ban on fracking

Is this part of the 73% of things that Bernie says that Gary Johnson agrees with?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:53 AM (O7MnT)

19 >>>9 Fartfignewton!
Posted by: guy who likes to say "Fartfignewton!" at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (BO/km)

Do you have legal representation, Sir? You violate copyright laws, Ja?

Posted by: VolksFcuken Automobile Company at June 02, 2016 07:53 AM (K7cZK)

20 All this fart-talk is just disgusting.

Posted by: Brawney Frank at June 02, 2016 07:51 AM (ZEzaq)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Gerry Studds at June 02, 2016 07:53 AM (WVsWD)

21 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

Cruz did run a shitty campaign and declined to attack the dems in general and Skankles in particular like Trump has. Someone just needs to state the obvious about this administration and its lackeys, including the MSM.

Trump hasn't done that to the extent I think it needs to be done, but Im gonna vote for him. Someone has to run the country and its gonna be him, Skankles or Bernie the buffoon.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 02, 2016 07:54 AM (NWP1/)

22 Re: the Nanny State and TFG's "suggestion" that companies lower their salt...that's in the Constitution, right? I know Campbell's has already gladly and with glee agreed to do as it's been told. I wish these companies would band together and tell TFG to get bent.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 02, 2016 07:55 AM (+FSld)

23 Bernie Sanders proposes national ban on fracking?

Maybe the progressives should just cut to the chase and run on a platform of "Poverty For All!"

Posted by: MTF at June 02, 2016 07:55 AM (/m8T6)

24
There's a prime SCOUTS pick - Judge Hanen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 02, 2016 07:57 AM (p4UlV)

25 10 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)
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Wait, so these are campaign social media types posting for pay? Well, color me shocked.

Posted by: MTF at June 02, 2016 07:57 AM (/m8T6)

26 Trump's a chump. He start flinging nukes all over the place cuz someone insults his hair.

Plus.

He'll commit other war crimes.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Thused Trump-a-lump-a at June 02, 2016 07:57 AM (WVsWD)

27 Of course Obama wants to limit salt. How soon before they decide that we can't feed ourselves responsibly and star delivering govt-issues food brick rations.For the children.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 07:57 AM (NOIQH)

28
"I think I shall try for a fart."

- - King George III

(memorable line from "The Madness of King George")

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (p4UlV)

29 >>>Of course he was the quiet and kind type

He was a good boy, just about to turn his life around.....fell in with a bad crowd, and all......

#NutcaseLivesMatter

Posted by: His Momma at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (K7cZK)

30 Have you noticed a curiously large number of comments in various comment-permitting fora that are some variation of: "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

And what do you care? Either vote for Trump or don't.

Surely you must know the "I haven't jumped on the Trump train" purity crap is tiresome and weak. Either get over it or don't, but good grief, knock off the pitiful whining.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (Dj0WE)

31 Last night I had a dream where William Shatner was wearing Trump's fright wig. That was kind of wild.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (O7MnT)

32 It would be pretty cool if this were true:

Ryan in panic mode as challenger surges ahead:

https://tinyurl.com/jnengoc

Anybody else with additional info?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (4ng05)

33 24
There's a prime SCOUTS pick - Judge Hanen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 02, 2016 07:57 AM (p4UlV)

SCOTUS, dammit! S C O T U S ! ! !

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (p4UlV)

34 Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Thused Trump-a-lump-a at June 02, 2016 07:57 AM (WVsWD)

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 02, 2016 07:59 AM (NWP1/)

35 The ACLU director's resignation shows an opening for Duh Donald....

If he reaches out to the black community I think the Glee Gang may cost the Donks the 91% lockstep.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 07:59 AM (g8Hfr)

36 >>>Of course he was the quiet and kind type

He was a good boy, just about to turn his life around.....fell in with a bad crowd, and all......

#NutcaseLivesMatter
Posted by: His Momma at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (K7cZK)

Time for some common sense Canadian screenwriter legislation. Banning the kind with a thing that goes up would be a good start.

For the children.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2016 07:59 AM (Dj0WE)

37 30 Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (Dj0WE)

But Bill Kristol Island is such a warm place, and the Mojitos rock.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:00 AM (g8Hfr)

38 Last night I had a dream where William Shatner was wearing Trump's fright wig. That was kind of wild.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (O7MnT)
_____________________________

That's odd,, so did I...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 02, 2016 08:01 AM (HSmrB)

39 Democrats: The party of unindicted felons, rapists, two-bit hustlers, and Marxists.

Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2016 08:01 AM (UzPAd)

40 Trump's nibbling at the croquet hoops?

Posted by: Lt. Gervaise Puffbotty, RAF at June 02, 2016 08:01 AM (e8U/R)

41 So, the Trump vs. Cruz thing takes on a new look.

Sad.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:01 AM (MQEz6)

42 And what do you care? Either vote for Trump or don't.

It just reinforces my impression of the dishonesty and nastiness of Trump supporters, that's all. Nothing more than that.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:02 AM (O7MnT)

43 Apropos of nothing, last night Mr. Black was watching some show on Willie, Waylon, Cash and Kristofferson. One person mentioned how Kristofferson used to wear his Che shirt. What a stupid douche. My opinion of him went right into the dump last night.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun! at June 02, 2016 08:02 AM (+FSld)

44 Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:00 AM (g8Hfr)

Fuck that guy in particular. NRO, Red State, the GOPe and all their boot licking minions need to be on the street with cardboard signs. Spineless, feckless enablers is all they are at best, willing accomplices more likely.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 02, 2016 08:03 AM (NWP1/)

45 I'm a fartiste and I'm sensitive as shit!

Posted by: Lepetomane at June 02, 2016 08:03 AM (ZEzaq)

46 39 Democrats: The party of unindicted felons, rapists, two-bit hustlers, and Marxists.
Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2016 08:01 AM (UzPAd) ...and that's their best points.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at June 02, 2016 08:04 AM (22uju)

47 It just reinforces my impression of the dishonesty and nastiness of Trump supporters, that's all. Nothing more than that.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:02 AM (O7MnT)

And you have no idea what you're talking about. So it's just whining.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 02, 2016 08:04 AM (Dj0WE)

48 It just reinforces my impression of the dishonesty and nastiness of Trump supporters, that's all. Nothing more than that.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:02 AM (O7MnT)
____________________________

That's odd,, I feel the same way about them...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (HSmrB)

49 ACLU's Georgia director mugged by reality (sidebar):

The
African-American woman who leads a state chapter of the ACLU has
resigned, citing her own daughters' "frightened" reaction to biological
males using the women's restroom.

"I
have shared my personal experience of having taken my elementary school
age daughters into a women's restroom when shortly after three
transgender young adults, over six feet with deep voices,
entered," she wrote. "My
children were visibly frightened, concerned about their safety and left
asking lots of questions for which I, like many parents, was
ill-prepared to answer," she continued.

In
a statement, she said that the ACLU has become "a special interest
organization that promotes not all, but certain progressive rights."

The "hierarchy of rights" the ACLU chooses to defend or ignore, she wrote,
is "based on who is funding the organization's lobbying activities."

Gee, who is funding them?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (NOIQH)

50 So the judge in the case against Trump University is a member of La Raza.

No conflict there, right? No possibility that a La Raza member, a man who has given law school scholarships to illegal aliens, would have some sort of bias against Trump.

All perfectly legit! No reason at all for this judge to have recused himself.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (BNs9e)

51 42 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:02 AM (O7MnT)

You caught us.

I average on a light week ~750 posts here unless I strive not to comment. I was such a great actor about being a Cruz supporter that I left here and twitter both commenting wise b/c of Trump Superfan as a deep cover op. Yes we are idiots but sublimely cunning and ruthless idiots.

*eyeroll*

Here's the deal tiger, we've "won by losing" the last decade...

we now have men in girl's bathrooms as a religious sacrament.

How's about we try winning by fucking winning for a change?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (g8Hfr)

52 Lying fuck State Department "Admiral" lying on FandF about memory-holing press conference video.

No one "remembers" how it happened.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (EZebt)

53 The Leaning Tower of Elon is near the entrance to Port Canaveral, and should enter the port later this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdbmXPOtJoU

They've been lying outside the harbor entrance waiting for other traffic to clear, such as cruise ships and a British Trident missile submarine.

Posted by: rickl at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (sdi6R)

54 Ogabe's farts make no sound. Reggie has seen to that over the years.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (22uju)

55 United States District Court Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the man presiding over the class-action lawsuit against Trump University, is a member of the La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and oversaw the gift of a law school scholarship to an illegal alien.

Oh yeah no conflict of interest there? LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (zp+j1)

56 Damn, I thought it was Friday. I just looked at the calendar.

Posted by: Infidel at June 02, 2016 08:06 AM (dlTLF)

57 Free form farting doesn't do it for me. I'm more a Free The Nipple! guy myself.

Posted by: MTF at June 02, 2016 08:06 AM (/m8T6)

58 In other news, Sanders has proposed legislation to limit agricultural output to reduce obesity.

"Eating too much is a national crisis. Why do we need so much food? People around the world eat much less than we do! Reducing the amount of food produced will result is healthier Americans." Sander shouted while waving his arms.

Posted by: Ripley at June 02, 2016 08:06 AM (1BQGO)

59 It just reinforces my impression of the dishonesty and nastiness of Trump supporters, that's all. Nothing more than that.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:02 AM (O7MnT)

Hey how did that course go that you took? Ya know the " How to win friends and influence People" one?

LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:06 AM (zp+j1)

60 "It just reinforces my impression of the dishonesty and nastiness of Trump supporters, that's all. Nothing more than that. "

Would you like to name names? Especially the Trump supporters here at the HQ?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Thused Trump-a-lump-a at June 02, 2016 08:07 AM (WVsWD)

61
I guess increases in drug overdoses and suicides are just things you have to accept in an awesome economy.

Thank you, SCOAMT.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 08:07 AM (4ng05)

62 Judge Hanen doesn't belong in our progressive organization as he has not earned his Trannie Social Justice or Gun-Confiscation Badges yet.....

Posted by: The SCOUTS at June 02, 2016 08:08 AM (K7cZK)

63 "Eating too much is a national crisis. Why do we need so much food?
People around the world eat much less than we do! Reducing the amount of
food produced will result is healthier Americans"

you go, girl !!

Posted by: nanny state at June 02, 2016 08:09 AM (c6/9Q)

64 When Trigglypuff farts, it's like a geothermal event in Yellowstone with gas bubbling out of seemingly everywhere.

Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2016 08:09 AM (UzPAd)

65 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 02, 2016 07:54 AM (NWP1/)

We've come to the point where the best leadership choices seem to be Trump, Frump, or Chump.

Jefferson weeps!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:09 AM (wYnyS)

66 Does Ace need to install a tissue dispenser?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:09 AM (MQEz6)

67 >>In other news, Sanders has proposed legislation to limit agricultural output to reduce obesity.

OMFG
You cannot parody these control-freaks.
Please, Bernie, point to where in the Constitution you have the power to do this, or to micro-manage Americans' waistlines?
Just move to Cuba already, you'll be happier there. You *belong* there.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 08:10 AM (NOIQH)

68 Obama is making Judge Hannen the bad guy for attempting to enforce the law. It's very personal.

If a Republican did this there would be hell to pay. Every newspaper in the country would be outraged. There would be stories about the judge's backstory, his kids attempts to deal with living as the child of a famous political prisoner, the brave court workers worried about armed assault from armed Presidential agents...

Hanen caught the government lying. Repeatedly. Now, Obama is trying to make him the issue rather than the behavior of his scumbag Justice Department lawyers.

Posted by: MTF at June 02, 2016 08:11 AM (/m8T6)

69 I was telling Huma just the other day how lucky she is that my farts don't stink. Huma then told meI need to have my nose operated on.

Posted by: Hillary "Felon" Clinton at June 02, 2016 08:11 AM (22uju)

70 67 Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 08:10 AM (NOIQH)

It's worse than that.

Comrade Zanders is "forgetting" the US is responsible for literally 1/5th the world's grain production....

he wants the world to go on a diet.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:11 AM (g8Hfr)

71 Funny story on the new sodium guidelines.

About a year ago I actually had a conversation with my doctor about them, in relation to some questions I had about stocking food (FWIW, it was about whether freeze dried food that was high in sodium was a good thing to survive on for a month or two). He said the better way to think about sodium guidelines is as a floor, not a ceiling, and the real issue with sodium is that otherwise healthy people don't hydrate enough. If you are taking in too much sodium, your system is designed to flush out the excess, provided you're getting enough water.

You need salt to live...your cells won't function properly without it. The same cast of characters saying salt is the enemy was also preaching low/no fat diets for the general population and, well, that turned out to be misguided.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 02, 2016 08:12 AM (eytER)

72 Bernie is a camp guard. He chuckles as you starve in the Gulag.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:13 AM (MQEz6)

73 Willow'd first thing, dammit.

On second thought, the early nickelfuckery is a bit much...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 02, 2016 08:13 AM (D0J8L)

74 >>>66 Does Ace need to install a tissue dispenser?
Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:09 AM (MQEz6)

Yes.

*sniffle, sniffle*

Posted by: Michelle Fields at June 02, 2016 08:15 AM (K7cZK)

75 No one "remembers" how it happened.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (EZebt)

"Tell me again, how many lights am I supposed to be seeing?"

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:15 AM (wYnyS)

76 Where's my speedy trial? Oh yeah, Barry would have to sign my death warrant and as a fellow muzzie he would not be able to sign it due to his fatwa against America.

Posted by: Nidal Hassan at June 02, 2016 08:15 AM (22uju)

77 Ok, Nevertrump-muffins. The Trump v Cruz thing is officially over. Get over it, and move on.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 02, 2016 08:15 AM (7VPW0)

78 One reaction to ACLU director's statements:

A
transgender activist --- a biological male who goes by the name Cheryl
Courtney-Evans --- responded to Dillard Smith's resignation by calling her "lazy," "ill- educated," and a "b-ch" who needs to sit down and STFU.
No one who has seen LGBT activists in action will be surprised by this
charming response.

So...if you have some sympathy for a person who has to deal with thinking their body is at war with their identity? I suppose it's good to see how much sympathy for people who don't want to re-order the world for their self-esteem.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 08:16 AM (NOIQH)

79 @42 Posted by V the K

Sure, all Trump supporters are dishonest and nasty. And the shine from your halo lights the universe. What a special world you live in.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at June 02, 2016 08:16 AM (Z4hTv)

80 SCOTUS, dammit! S C O T U S ! ! !
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (p4UlV

you're among friends, i knew what you meant, dammit!!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 02, 2016 08:16 AM (voOPb)

81 In other news, Sanders has proposed legislation to limit agricultural output to reduce obesity.

It worked for Pol Pot!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 02, 2016 08:17 AM (3hIZX)

82 I think Cruz ran an OK campaign, and now I'm resigned to Trump. Walker, Perry, etc ran horrible campaigns. They had no reason to jump in on the immigration debate the way they did. They could have given real world costs if illegal immigration on the States and sidestep ped the firestorm.

Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2016 08:17 AM (caZs2)

83 Ken Starr at Baylor, he's either being dishonest or he's incredibly naive and malleable.

Shame either way.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 08:18 AM (5cDrF)

84 78 Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 08:16 AM (NOIQH)

He's a charmer....Bing for pics.

Fuck 'em war.

I assure you most democrats are not REALLY comfy with dicks in women's bathrooms.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:18 AM (g8Hfr)

85 Projection.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 02, 2016 08:18 AM (3hIZX)

86 Most important for Trump fans and donors is that Trump reassures them that he will not try to oust Ryan or McConnell. Should be no problem getting those tariffs and that wall now.

Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:19 AM (wnwJC)

87 Wow. Thought I'd look up what, if any, movie the Canadian murderer/screenplay writer had written and the one movie he wrote has the tagline, "This movie takes bad behavior to a whole new level".

Posted by: Dang at June 02, 2016 08:19 AM (/77HP)

88 69
I was telling Huma just the other day how lucky she is that my farts
don't stink. Huma then told meI need to have my nose operated on.

Posted by: Hillary "Felon" Clinton at June 02, 2016 08:11 AM (22uju)
And if Hillary every stopped quick, she'd grow an extra pair of legs.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - PROUD LGBT - Loves Guns, Beer and Tatas at June 02, 2016 08:20 AM (jxbfJ)

89 F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-ORE!

Posted by: President 4Putt at June 02, 2016 08:20 AM (ZxmMG)

90 Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:19 AM (wnwJC)

Plus

Trump will order the gangland execution of the families of innocent terrorists.

Let's not even mention the imminent danger that the rare blond hair weasel faces.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Thused Trump-a-lump-a at June 02, 2016 08:21 AM (WVsWD)

91 "Most important for Trump fans and donors is that Trump reassures them that he will not try to oust Ryan or McConnell."

Neither will I. Funny, that.

Posted by: Hillary! at June 02, 2016 08:22 AM (ZEzaq)

92 @77 Sticky Wicket-The Trump vs conservatism, the constitution, free trade is alive and well.

Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:22 AM (wnwJC)

93
86 Most important for Trump fans and donors is that Trump reassures them that he will not try to oust Ryan or McConnell. Should be no problem getting those tariffs and that wall now.
Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:19 AM (wnwJC)

Oust them how?

Burly bouncers?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:22 AM (MQEz6)

94 Third, it's the inevitable dig... "Cruz ran a shitty campaign" that just so neatly fits the nastiness of the Trump campaign: Yeah, we want your support, but we can't help ourselves making one more dig to rub it in.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

I'll hold my nose and vote for Trump to keep Hillary out - only because I think Trump won't be able to get anything through Congress once he's President. He doesn't have a Historic First card to protect him like Obama did, or Hillary would, and if he tried anything too crazy, he'll get impeached. With how popular he is with both parties, he wouldn't survive it.

As far as actually supporting him and talking him up? Pfft, no. I'm voting against Hillary. Trump is just the best chance (at present) of stopping her. If that changes, and I can vote for someone I like? I'll be thrilled, but in my analysis, that's not likely at all.

No matter who wins this election, if things remain as they are, there is no chance of anybody we like being put in the driver's seat. The real question is if you want the absolute evil that's going to be unopposed, or the sleaze weasel that's going to be a lame duck from day one?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 08:22 AM (J+mig)

95 Pretty soon some here will have Trump indicted for the Lindbergh baby Kidnapping and death and being seen on the Grassy Knoll.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:23 AM (zp+j1)

96 So this Trump U lawsuit is by 5 former students, FIVE! Wtf.

Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2016 08:23 AM (caZs2)

97 More anti-Trump stuff.

The Primaries are over, yo.

You lost.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:24 AM (MQEz6)

98 Trump to visit Israel in July

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:24 AM (zp+j1)

99 More anti-Trump stuff.

The Primaries are over, yo.

You lost.
Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:24 AM (MQEz6)

MOst of the people doing that are stealth democrats

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:25 AM (zp+j1)

100 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:23 AM (zp+j1)

You forgot Hoffa. Although that one might be classified as a public service.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Thused Trump-a-lump-a at June 02, 2016 08:25 AM (WVsWD)

101 If you like the social and fiscal sanity given us by Lying Ryan, you might consider giving Nehlen a few bucks. It might be a Wisconsin race, but this is NOT local politics:
http://tinyurl.com/zyy4a7q

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:25 AM (wYnyS)

102 Sure, all Trump supporters are dishonest and nasty. And the shine from your halo lights the universe. What a special world you live in.

They seem to be a mite thin-skinned as well.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)

103 94 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 08:22 AM (J+mig)

A Trump impeachment would be a GOOD thing....

Post Cold War there is NO reason for the balance of power to reside so heavily in the Executive branch.

Time to puncture the equilibrium.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:26 AM (g8Hfr)

104 >>The Primaries are over, yo.

>>You lost.

Are choices are Hillary and Trump. We all lost.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:26 AM (/tuJf)

105 My father Edgar was a ventriloquist. I can't throw my voice but I can throw my farts. I can easily make it seems as if you fart raped yourself while I'm the one who struck mud. It's like fracking which I'm totally against because science and lore!

Posted by: Candace Bergen at June 02, 2016 08:27 AM (gwG9s)

106 Our. Sheesh.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:27 AM (/tuJf)

107
The fart raping will contjnue until morale improves.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 08:27 AM (BK3ZS)

108 You lost.

To quote Captain Malcolm Reynolds, "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:27 AM (O7MnT)

109 Trump is going to see a wall that works.

Posted by: Jean at June 02, 2016 08:28 AM (caZs2)

110 Our choices are Hillary and Trump. We all lost.

Yeah.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:28 AM (O7MnT)

111 Most important for Trump fans and donors is that Trump reassures them that he will not try to oust Ryan or McConnell. Should be no problem getting those tariffs and that wall now.
Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:19 AM (wnwJC)

Oust them how?

Burly bouncers?

After 30+ years in NY business, I'm sure he's "owed" a few "union" favors.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 08:28 AM (oqhrS)

112 I wonder if Kerry is going to apologize to Iran for Americans finding out about Iran's support for the Taliban.

That was a terrible thing to do to one on SCOAMT's closest friends. I'm embarrassed for us.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 08:28 AM (4ng05)

113 108 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:27 AM (O7MnT)

I don't have no problem with Tranny Bathroom Joy Mal!

//"Jane" Cobb

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:29 AM (g8Hfr)

114 That ACLU lady saw with her own eyes that she has been allied with evil serpents.

She did the right thing.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:29 AM (MQEz6)

115 95 Pretty soon some here will have Trump indicted for the Lindbergh baby Kidnapping and death and being seen on the Grassy Knoll.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:23 AM (zp+j1)

Ed Rendell is blaming Trump for the DNC being several million dollars in the red. He claims that major sponsors have pulled out of the RNC due to Trump, and also had to pull support from the DNC to "be fair." Yeah.

Posted by: josephistan at June 02, 2016 08:30 AM (7HtZB)

116 "You forgot Hoffa. Although that one might be classified as a public service."

They find him when they tore down the old Giant's Stadium? No?

I guess he's still in an overpass embankment somewhere.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 08:30 AM (5cDrF)

117 Are choices are Hillary and Trump. We all lost.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:26 AM (/tuJf)

With Trump, we might not lose much. We might get 4 years of total gridlock, and be exactly where we are right now in 4 years, except further in debt with no additional damage done.

With Hillary, we'll get a "pathway to citizenship" which will make the country go solid blue, and several new Lefty activist Supreme Court justices to continue shredding the Constitution. And our state secrets will continue to be for sale in exchange for speaking fees for Bill or sizable donations to the Clinton Foundation.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 08:30 AM (J+mig)

118
They seem to be a mite thin-skinned as well.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)
_____________________________

That's odd,, I think they are too....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 02, 2016 08:31 AM (HSmrB)

119 It would be pretty cool if this were true:

Ryan in panic mode as challenger surges ahead:

https://tinyurl.com/jnengoc

Anybody else with additional info?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 07:58 AM (4ng05)
=============================================

I haven't heard of that particular polling firm, but who knows? Legal Insurrection cites a Washington Free Beacon report of a recent poll showing Ryan up over Nehlen by 80-7, which is where it's been hovering for the last few weeks. I'm not sure when the last Marquette poll was taken. They are usually the most accurate poll. Let me see if I can dig that up .....

http://bit.ly/1P8sY85

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 08:31 AM (dFi94)

120 114 Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:29 AM (MQEz6)

Absolutely.

The Donks are fucked if we fissure their party on this.

Grrl Pwr meets Duck and Tits Both Pwr....

The Grrls don't REALLY like it.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:31 AM (g8Hfr)

121
108 You lost.

To quote Captain Malcolm Reynolds, "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:27 AM (O7MnT)

Mal and Cruz cancelled after only one season.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:31 AM (MQEz6)

122 Mal and Cruz cancelled after only one season.

Ouch.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 08:32 AM (oqhrS)

123 @293 eman-Took me a minute but I figured out why in our discussion of that useless constitution why you pulled the 16th amend out first thing. You need us constitutional conservatives to revere the 16th to keep Trump supporters EBT cards flush. Only time I get to check out AoS is when I'm break or after work when I'm dead tired. I envy that you get to hang out here all day and comment. Anyways if it ever dawns on you guys Trump is a fraud send money now to Cruz 2020!

Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (wnwJC)

124 The "Okie-Doke" Strategy by Barack Obama:

If we turn against each other based on division of race or religion. If-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if-if we fall for, you know, a bunch of okie-doke, just because, you know it-it-it. You know, it-it-it-it-it-it sounds funny or the tweets are provocative. Then we're not going to build on the progress that we started.

Posted by: President Barack "Okie-Doke" Obama at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (e8kgV)

125 Thanks for the list, Mis. Hum.

I vote as a civic duty, b/c I think we're pretty much doomed in a "four sins that call to Heaven for vengeance" way.
Basing my vote, like so many others, on knowing with certainty what Clinton would do. Willing to give Trump a chance, with no major expectations.

Posted by: Sal at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (MRX6w)

126 Lot of FAB supporters here today

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (zp+j1)

127
102 Sure, all Trump supporters are dishonest and nasty. And the shine from your halo lights the universe. What a special world you live in.

They seem to be a mite thin-skinned as well.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:26 AM (O7MnT)

Heh. You start with tears and now you are a tough guy.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:35 AM (MQEz6)

128 126 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (zp+j1)

The BEST way to show support for conservative ideals is to ensure another radical Alinskybot gets the reigns comrade!

//George Pickett Voter

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:35 AM (g8Hfr)

129 Basing my vote, like so many others, on knowing with
certainty what Clinton would do. Willing to give Trump a chance, with
no major expectations.

Posted by: Sal at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (MRX6w)

Exactly. Our certitude that Hillary is pretty much the Ultimate Evil should be enough. Trump is an extremely questionable character (and has extremely questionable character), but as long as we don't know that he's going to be as bad as Hillary (and even though I rank him alongside used car salesmen for trustworthiness, I strongly doubt that he would be), civic duty is to make sure she doesn't get in.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 08:36 AM (J+mig)

130 123 @293 eman-Took me a minute but I figured out why in our discussion of that useless constitution why you pulled the 16th amend out first thing. You need us constitutional conservatives to revere the 16th to keep Trump supporters EBT cards flush. Only time I get to check out AoS is when I'm break or after work when I'm dead tired. I envy that you get to hang out here all day and comment. Anyways if it ever dawns on you guys Trump is a fraud send money now to Cruz 2020!
Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (wnwJC)

Not even close.

Try again.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:36 AM (MQEz6)

131 Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:31 AM (MQEz6)

Like I said, nasty people.

One thing I always hated about the Obama Cult was how they could never be gracious in victory. Like the gay left when the SCOTUS imposed gay marriage on the country. They couldn't just take their victory, they had to rub it in the faces of the people who lost; the bakers, the florists, the people who just didn't agree.

The Trump Train seems to attract people of similar character.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

132 There does not appear to be a recent Marquette poll on the Ryan / Nehlen race. Not that I can find anyway.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 08:37 AM (dFi94)

133
Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

Because you've musplaced your donation check to MoveOn.org?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 08:37 AM (BK3ZS)

134 "You put your left foot in in in uh in in...
You put your left foot in your mouth
You put your left foot in in in in uh in in in...
And you shake it while you pout.

Y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-you do the Okie-Doke
A-a-a-a-and you t-t-t-t-turn yourself about
Ibbida-ibbida-ibbida-th-th-that's all folks!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 08:37 AM (mvenn)

135 Willing to give Trump a chance, with no major expectations.

Posted by: Sal at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (MRX6w)

My calculations are that Trump might betray us, but it is a virtual certitude that any combination involving Hillary/Bernie/Biden/Warren will betray-betray us!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 08:38 AM (wYnyS)

136 Most important for Trump fans and donors is that Trump reassures them
that he will not try to oust Ryan or McConnell. Should be no problem
getting those tariffs and that wall now.

he'll make them an offer they can't refuse

Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 08:38 AM (c6/9Q)

137 Lot of FAB supporters here today
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:33 AM (zp+j1)

In their humble #neverTrump righteousness they seek to save us from ourselves

https://tinyurl.com/hn8jy7o

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 08:38 AM (4ng05)

138 Sometimes my dad's writing bordered on poetic. Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 07:47 AM (mvenn)You remind me of a probably apocryphal story I once read in a collection of anecdotes. It's been a while, so forgive my eliding details.The story concerns a soldier during WWII. As he's trudging through the bombed-out French countryside, he finds the ruins of a small church. Something vaguely tugs at his mind about the place, so he takes a peek inside.Sure enough, on one of the stone pillars he sees a bit of graffiti in his own hand:JOHN SMITH. 1917.He thinks for a moment, then pulls out a knife and carves:JOHN SMITH. 1944.THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WANT TO WRITE MY NAME HERE.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 08:38 AM (X6fMO)

139 >>There does not appear to be a recent Marquette poll on the Ryan / Nehlen race. Not that I can find anyway.

Last I saw a couple weeks ago Ryan was up by something like 50 points.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:39 AM (/tuJf)

140 Heh. You start with tears and now you are a tough guy.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:35 AM (MQEz6)
________________________________

That's odd,,, I do the same thing....

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 02, 2016 08:40 AM (HSmrB)

141 131 Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:31 AM (MQEz6)

Like I said, nasty people.

One thing I always hated about the Obama Cult was how they could never be gracious in victory. Like the gay left when the SCOTUS imposed gay marriage on the country. They couldn't just take their victory, they had to rub it in the faces of the people who lost; the bakers, the florists, the people who just didn't agree.

The Trump Train seems to attract people of similar character.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

Now back to tears.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:41 AM (MQEz6)

142 131 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

Ah so we are to allow another 1340 days of Leftoid assault on normalcy b/c of spoiled decorum?

*right*

BRILLIANT!

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:41 AM (g8Hfr)

143 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:37 AM (O7MnT)

Are you lost? Here are the sites you should go play on:

http://front.moveon.org/
http://blacklivesmatter.com/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com

Have a nice day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:41 AM (zp+j1)

144 Isn't all the anti-fracking stooges on foreign oil payrolls? I am sure the dems pockets are being filled with Saudi and Russia petro dollars to push that tripe.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 08:42 AM (E8UjU)

145 Geniuses on FBN who supported milquetoast candidates are now complaining that Trump's antics should be set aside so he can be more milquetoasty like they prefer.

Apparently the PGA's antiAmerican tournament move is supposed to hurt him in some major way.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at June 02, 2016 08:42 AM (3Liv/)

146 One moron constantly says Trump is too erratic to trust with nukes. Which may be argued.

Hilary OTOH would guarantee we are defenseless against a nuke attack, and also she would sell off our defense secrets and leave key personnel vulnerable.

So if we survived Hilary we'd need to scrap everything and start over - if the socialist empire she creates will allow it.

I'll take my chances with Trump. No contest.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 08:42 AM (fToHD)

147 Sure enough, on one of the stone pillars he sees a bit of graffiti in his own hand:JOHN SMITH. 1917.He thinks for a moment, then pulls out a knife and carves:JOHN SMITH. 1944.THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WANT TO WRITE MY NAME HERE.

John, after 27 years, RETIRE!
Lol

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 08:42 AM (oqhrS)

148 Ah so we are to allow another 1340 days of Leftoid assault on normalcy b/c of spoiled decorum?

I honestly don't see how that is avoided. Do you think the SJW's go away just because Trump gets elected, if he even does?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:43 AM (O7MnT)

149 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 08:38 AM (X6fMO)

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 08:43 AM (7lVbc)

150
Ed Rendell is blaming Trump for the DNC being several million dollars in the red. He claims that major sponsors have pulled out of the RNC due to Trump, and also had to pull support from the DNC to "be fair." Yeah.

Per Bugs Bunny (counting out cash to members of his gang): "One to you and one, two to me; three to you and one, two, three, four to me; five..."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 08:43 AM (BK3ZS)

151 I'm not a #nevertrump guy. I just won't vote for the fucker.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 02, 2016 08:44 AM (ZEzaq)

152 148 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:43 AM (O7MnT)

The leftoids don't have a pen and a fucking phone sans Donkey in the Seat at 1600 Penn genius.

Seriously what's the pay, I know you can't legitimately be this retarded...

do you get dental?

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:44 AM (g8Hfr)

153 @131 V the K

"The Trump Train seems to attract people of similar character."

How many posts till some one proves your point?

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 08:45 AM (E8UjU)

154 "Ed Rendell is blaming Trump for the DNC being several million dollars in the red. He claims that major sponsors have pulled out of the RNC due to Trump, and also had to pull support from the DNC to "be fair." Yeah. "

Were this to be true.

*crosses fingers*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 08:45 AM (5cDrF)

155 Per Bugs Bunny (counting out cash to members of his gang): "One to you and one, two to me; three to you and one, two, three, four to me; five..."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 08:43 AM (BK3ZS)

How is his tan?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 08:45 AM (4ng05)

156 Didn't take long.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 08:46 AM (E8UjU)

157 THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WANT TO WRITE MY NAME HERE.

****

Sadly I don't see any John Smiths on the horizon. Europe may just be on their own this time.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at June 02, 2016 08:46 AM (mvenn)

158 https://www.hillaryclinton.com

Have a nice day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 08:41 AM (zp+j1)
______________________________

I highly recommend that one. And bring money...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 02, 2016 08:46 AM (HSmrB)

159 I'll take my chances with Trump. No contest.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 08:42 AM (fToHD)

Your assessment squares with mine. America is likely to survive in recognizable form after 4 years of Trump. America is unlikely to survive a Hillary Presidency, and even if we do, we'll be utterly gutted militarily and diplomatically.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 08:46 AM (J+mig)

160 So...what is the point at stirring up the Trump v. not Trump wars here?

Why the need to blanket all people who support one candidate or another as teh worst?

This has become so tiresome. Has Ace not written numerous posts on this - not only on civility, bit on the reasons behind supporting one candidate or another is not only based on them, but the current situation (primaries vs. primaries over and not wanting the FAB as POTUS?!?

Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 08:46 AM (NOIQH)

161 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

I don't know about others who say that, but that describes my position. I much preferred Cruz, he *did* seem to campaign badly, I will vote for Trump. I never hated Trump and since I can't have "my" candidate I will give the DOPe the candidate they always said they wanted.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (GDulk)

162 153 Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 08:45 AM (E8UjU)

The #Cruz4Ever shit has me on the verge of regretting funding him and pulling for him in Ohio....

so there's that.

I can forgive assholery in victory a lot easier than I can forgive butthurt for eternity.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (g8Hfr)

163
Seriously what's the pay, I know you can't legitimately be this retarded...

So people who value honesty and civility are "retarded?" now?

We really have reached "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded" haven't we?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (O7MnT)

164 151
I'm not a #nevertrump guy. I just won't vote for the fucker.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at June 02, 2016 08:44 AM (ZEzaq)

Then vote against Hillary.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (J+mig)

165 I should have a beer summit with that flour general. Would be a good photo op. I I I I I I w w w w w won so I'm his b b b b b b boss!

Posted by: POTUS at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (gwG9s)

166
One moron constantly says Trump is too erratic to trust with nukes. Which may be argued.

Yes. Apparently, if President Teh Donald gives the order to whack a terrorists' family, we're assured that the military will never follow such an unconstitutional order from a rogue C-in-C.

But at the same time, we're to believe that Trump will wake up one morning, yell, "nuke 'em high!" and Pyongyang will be lit up like a Christmas tree within the hour.

I swear people are simply making up any excuse they can find to dismiss Trump so they can parade their "TOLD YOU SO!"s if he loses.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 08:48 AM (X6fMO)

167 161 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (GDulk)

In the battle between getting cancer or ebola I will always choose cancer.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:48 AM (g8Hfr)

168 We really have reached "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded" haven't we?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (O7MnT)

in some cases....

Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 08:48 AM (c6/9Q)

169 50% think Hildabeast should keep running if indited ?!?!?

I would bet that the number would be a same if "Convicted".

DOOM...where is thy sting?

Posted by: Paladin at June 02, 2016 08:49 AM (LtaK3)

170 Okay for all the folks berating people who are reluctant when it comes to voting for Trump -

1. I am not a democrat. Don't portray me as one or use ridicule to imply that I am one. Don't point me to Daily Kos or MoveOn.org. You should know better than that.

2. Some people have different ideas, different opinion. Some might even not to walk lock-step with you and that is their right. That's why we call it America.

3. On a personal note, Trump went out of his way to tear down Scott Walker, even after he had left the race. He said "Wisconsisn is doing poorly. Very poorly under Scott Walker." He then went on to criticize Walker's reforms. He said Walker should have raised taxes instead of "cutting" education (code for letting the teacher's union hold this state hostage". So he would have been on the opposing side during the recall. I have a big BIG problem with that.

4. I will think of more but my hands are shaking I am so upset.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 08:49 AM (dFi94)

171 >>>>I'll take my chances with Trump. No contest.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 08:42 AM (fToHD)

Your
assessment squares with mine. America is likely to survive in
recognizable form after 4 years of Trump. America is unlikely to survive
a Hillary Presidency, and even if we do, we'll be utterly gutted
militarily and diplomatically.
.
.
.
.
.After 4 or 8 years of hillary the Military will be in worse shape than we were in 1940.

For that reason alone I will vote Trump.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 02, 2016 08:49 AM (iONHu)

172 "So people who value honesty and civility are "retarded?" now? "

And we're going to honor honesty and civility by making sure Hillary gets into office?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 08:49 AM (5cDrF)

173 163 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (O7MnT)

Yes b/c what we have had an overabundance of the last 10 years is civility and decorum.

If Trump only hits left 20% of the time it is 20 fucking percent more than the GOP DC All-Stars have the last ten years.

Fuck it let the bodies hit the floor.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:49 AM (g8Hfr)

174 Oh hey

Did you guys see that the Dalai Lama was in Germany and said Hey don't turn into an Arab country you guys! Germany for Germans!

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 08:50 AM (fToHD)

175 So people who value honesty and civility are "retarded?" now?

We really have reached "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded" haven't we?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (O7MnT)

A reality TV star won the Republican Presidential nomination and you have to ask that question?

Valuing honesty and civility are fine, but boycotting the election and granting Hillary a win will not preserve either. No choice you can make in this election has any bearing on the survival of honesty and civility in public life.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 08:50 AM (J+mig)

176
Then we're not going to build on the progress that we started.

-- Stuff Samson said as he toppled the building's pillars

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 08:51 AM (BK3ZS)

177 One moron constantly says Trump is too erratic to trust with nukes. Which may be argued.

I can't imagine that that's ever been said about any other recent Republican President, so that's a charge I'm going to take seriously!

Posted by: t-bird at June 02, 2016 08:51 AM (ZxmMG)

178 So...what is the point at stirring up the Trump v. not Trump wars here?

The Fucking of the Chicken Will Continue Until Reality Improves.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 02, 2016 08:51 AM (3hIZX)

179 >>Seriously what's the pay, I know you can't legitimately be this retarded...

>>do you get dental?

I don't seem to remember you being so hardcore for Romney back in 2012 and he was much less problematic than Trump. What changed? Did you not have the foresight to see the second 4 years of Obama would be at least as bad as the first?

Eman used to love to say "Don't be afraid, vote for who you want to" before he became a Trump diehard. Are you now afraid too?

I'm all set with taking lectures about how I should vote from people who thought it was a brilliant idea to re-elect President Okie Dokie. You do what you want, I will too.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:51 AM (/tuJf)

180 Just curious. How is the judge in the Trump lawsuit still sitting on the bench? The guy not only just proved he is incompetent, but he's a member of a La Raza group. He's not impartial, enforcing our laws or competent. I would think censure is at least called for.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 02, 2016 08:51 AM (O0lVq)

181 speaking of civility, trump told barry to stfu about the campaign, or he'll go after him, hard

i am appalled at the lack of decorum

Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 08:52 AM (c6/9Q)

182 1) vote trump
2) vote hillary
3) vote for someone who has no chance in hell of winning.
4) stay home and watch reruns of NCIS

We get it, Trump not good.
But you should get, Hillary worse

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 02, 2016 08:52 AM (voOPb)

183 Is it really that hard for Trump supporters to be gracious in victory? Is it really hard to say, "Ted Cruz is a very principled conservative, and we should always be grateful for his defense of liberty in front of the Supreme Court and in the Senate. It's unfortunate that his style was not appreciated by an electorate that was in a strongly anti-Establishment mood and wanted a candidate who took to the fight with more vigor. Ted Cruz is a good man, but Trump is the nominee."

But I guess "Butthurt" "Hillary Lover" and "Sore Cruzer" is more gratifying somehow.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:52 AM (O7MnT)

184 We really have reached "You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded" haven't we?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (O7MnT)

Perhaps you hear of great Russian parable of Cinderella?

If shoe fits, wear it.

Posted by: Pavel Chekov, loosely at June 02, 2016 08:53 AM (3Liv/)

185 Sticky Wicket-The Trump vs conservatism, the constitution, free trade is alive and well.

Posted by: JROD at June 02, 2016 08:22 AM (wnwJC)

Trump V Cruz is dead. It's compost. It's fertilizing the tomatoes. Pining for the fjords. Pushing up daisies. Singing the choir invisible. Stiff. Slabbed. Assumed ambient temperature. Carbon neutral. Taken up residence at the local Motel Deep 6. Immortally challenged. Dee-Ee-Dee, ded.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 02, 2016 08:53 AM (7VPW0)

186
F-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-ORE!

Totally guffaw worthy!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 02, 2016 08:53 AM (4DCSq)

187 If Trump only hits left 20% of the time it is 20 fucking percent more than the GOP DC All-Stars have the last ten years.

People don't pay to see us win. An occasional victory is acceptable, but 20% of the time? No, we'd be out of a job.

Posted by: The Washington Generals at June 02, 2016 08:53 AM (ZxmMG)

188 smod teased arizona this morning

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 02, 2016 08:53 AM (0O7c5)

189
10 Have you noticed a curiously large number of comments in various comment-permitting fora that are some variation of: "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

First of all, it's all too convenient that this formulation would start showing up now. Second, it's exactly what the Trump supporters want... that supporters of other candidates will "get on the Trump train;" and they probably think that it's more persuasive if this imperative is coming from other supporters of defeated campaigns. Third, it's the inevitable dig... "Cruz ran a shitty campaign" that just so neatly fits the nastiness of the Trump campaign: Yeah, we want your support, but we can't help ourselves making one more dig to rub it in.

Posted by: V the K

Welcome aboard. You can pick up your commemorative hanky and diaper pack at the changing station in the Ladies room.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 02, 2016 08:54 AM (kfcYC)

190 179 Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:51 AM (/tuJf)

I donated about 4500 bucks to Mitt Jack.

I didn't man phone banks like I did in 2000,2004, and 2008 b/c I wanted it too much.

I had what ~ 37500 posts here and ~ 158,000 on twatter begging and cajoling people about Ryan's sanity on entitlements.

Tell me again how I am more enthusiastic for Orange Toupee Weasel than I was for Mitt Romney.

Hillary will make Ogabe look like he was sitting still with her mad dash left.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:54 AM (g8Hfr)

191 179 >>Seriously what's the pay, I know you can't legitimately be this retarded...

>>do you get dental?

I don't seem to remember you being so hardcore for Romney back in 2012 and he was much less problematic than Trump. What changed? Did you not have the foresight to see the second 4 years of Obama would be at least as bad as the first?

Eman used to love to say "Don't be afraid, vote for who you want to" before he became a Trump diehard. Are you now afraid too?

I'm all set with taking lectures about how I should vote from people who thought it was a brilliant idea to re-elect President Okie Dokie. You do what you want, I will too.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:51 AM (/tuJf)

I still say people should vote for whatever person they want. I do not say they should vote for Trump to thwart Hillary.

I do say they is a difference between voting and actively carrying on the Primaries after they are over and done.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:54 AM (MQEz6)

192 Let the weekend begin! My pitcher of Bloody Mary's needs a refill. Uma! Prowler needs a jump! Uma!

Posted by: Hillary 2016! at June 02, 2016 08:55 AM (gwG9s)

193 "Ted Cruz is a very principled conservative, and we should always be grateful for his defense of liberty in front of the Supreme Court and in the Senate. It's unfortunate that his style was not appreciated by an electorate that was in a strongly anti-Establishment mood and wanted a candidate who took to the fight with more vigor. Ted Cruz is a good man, but Trump is the nominee."

Oh my God, dude. How many times do you want to re-fight this lost battle? He couldn't do it.

Done. Over. Finished. Not happening.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at June 02, 2016 08:55 AM (5cDrF)

194 After 8 years of TFG being on reality shows, doing interviews with "The Pimp With The Limp" & women in bathtubs of Froot Loops, dignity in the Presidency hardly seems to matter anymore.

Posted by: josephistan at June 02, 2016 08:55 AM (7HtZB)

195 Some people have different ideas, different opinion. Some might even not
to walk lock-step with you and that is their right. That's why we call
it America.
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No, we call it America because that's similar to the name of the guy who made the first maps of the place.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (3Liv/)

196 In the fart wars, there are no winners.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (VSenK)

197 Update on central air install. Met with a salesman who turned out to be the owner. Young hustler. (The good kind) Very impressed. He came in $1,012.00 over the first company. Two hitches that threw the ball into his court.

1st - he is selling a 3 ton, 16 SEER Heat Pump vs. the other company's 3 ton, 14 SEER regular a/c unit.

2nd - ONCOR is offering $2500.00 rebates on heat pumps to be passed on to the consumer by a reduction on their invoice.

So, an invoice of $8212.00 installed for a 3 ton Heat Pump with an inside air handler unit came out to $5312.00 vs. $7200.00 quoted by the first company.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (oqhrS)

198 24
There's a prime SCOUTS pick - Judge Hanen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Nope, he puts up with way too much BS from the Feds for my liking.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (kfcYC)

199 And exactly how many times must Trump supporters praise Cruz before you'll get over it, V?

I'm not happy with Trump, but even I recognize that as of now Cruz is pretty much irrelevant.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 02, 2016 08:57 AM (PFy0L)

200 "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

I guess we'll just have to wait for your answer.

Posted by: t-bird at June 02, 2016 08:57 AM (ZxmMG)

201 No, we call it America because that's similar to the name of the guy who made the first maps of the place.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (3Liv/)
=============================================

Stop it. You're making me smile and it's very hard to stay angry when I'm smiling.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 08:57 AM (dFi94)

202 After 4 or 8 years of hillary the Military will be in worse shape than we were in 1940.

----

Worse, she'll sell off the location to every Pearl Harbor we have, plus scheduled rotations, battle order, codes, personnel records, armament, etc.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 08:58 AM (fToHD)

203 @162 sven10077

Cruz is the better candidate, but I have no issue with pulling the lever for Trump (the lesser evil). However the Trumpkins shitting all over people who weren't on their bandwagon from the beginning are definitely behaving like democrats.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 08:58 AM (E8UjU)

204 Folks, can we tone down the personal attacks on V the K, please? Pretty sure this is Viking the Kitten, who is an original commenter on this site.

Can't we all just get along?

-Zombie Rodney King.

Posted by: Comment Monitor #3,295 at June 02, 2016 08:58 AM (J6XDt)

205 To get away a bit from Trump vs Hillary/Sanders.....

The Weather Channel says you'd better visit the Statue of Liberty while you can, GW will soon make it so you will need scuba gear to see it? BS

Posted by: Colin at June 02, 2016 08:58 AM (fxoKC)

206 I watched my friends die without any help from The Hag, and then she lied to their families. They were put into that position by The Hag's own meddling with Obama in Libya.

I've watch more of my friends die while The Hag intervened in the Middle East and Asia, giving our enemies more means and ability to fight us. All the while she was trying to hide her tracks by deliberately keeping her comms out of the public's reach.

I could go on, but there is not enough room here.

I don't need a lot more reasons to vote for Trump and not for The Hag. I just need a voting booth.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 02, 2016 08:58 AM (O0lVq)

207 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:52 AM (O7MnT)

I really liked how he picked Fiorina for VP; master stroke, a real jujitsu move. Unique! showed real foresight, strategy, planning, guts !

Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (c6/9Q)

208 And exactly how many times must Trump supporters praise Cruz before you'll get over it, V?

I'm not happy with Trump, but even I recognize that as of now Cruz is pretty much irrelevant.

Arrgh. All I am *asking* is why it's so damn hard for the Trump guys to be gracious in victory. I get that Cruz lost. I get that Walker lost. I get that Jeb, and Rubio, and all the other guys lost.

What I don't get it why it's so hard for the people who won not to be dicks.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (O7MnT)

209 >>Tell me again how I am more enthusiastic for Orange Toupee Weasel than I was for Mitt Romney.

I don't remember you ever calling someone a retard for saying they weren't going to vote Romney. Yes, I think you are a lot more on the Trump Train. I remember the hard core Romney types, you weren't one of them.

That's fine. But some of you Trump supporters absolutely suck in making a case for why those who are having a hard time getting onboard. Granted, your candidate blows and goes out of his way to jump up and down on his dick but the fight song of "He sucks less than Hillary, maybe!" is not a real stem winder.

Work harder. Come up with better reasons. Calling people who are ostensibly on your side retards because they don't share your insistence that they must immediately get behind the least popular Republican candidate ever, is not a winner.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (/tuJf)

210 203 Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 08:58 AM (E8UjU)

and it sucks, BUT you know what....we need to act more like the democrats at the national level on tactics not content.

If the price of keeping donks from having supreme power is having shit flinging bonobo hordes in our ranks I suggest we wear raincoats and nose plugs.

This "winning by losing" shit has to stop.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (g8Hfr)

211 Is it really hard to say, "Ted Cruz is a very principled conservative,
and we should always be grateful for his defense of liberty in front of
the Supreme Court and in the Senate. It's unfortunate that his style was
not appreciated by an electorate that was in a strongly
anti-Establishment mood and wanted a candidate who took to the fight
with more vigor. Ted Cruz is a good man, but Trump is the nominee."
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It's more efficient to say "Cruz lost". The rest is no longer relevant.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (3Liv/)

212 Here's the headline-

"America Under Relentless Attack - From Within"

So, it's got to be about TFG and his America-destroying Band O'Commies, right?

Wrong, banana-nose!

It's a column by proud Obama voter and terminal #nevertrumpster, Kathleen Parker, bringing the stupid fast and hard-

about Trump and his horrible, stupid supporters-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/once-a-

great-notion-america-is-under-relentless-

attack/2016/05/31/cf8d43d0-2775-11e6-a3c4-

0724e8e24f3f_story.html

(remove extra spaces)

This is what passes for informed thought these days.

Please, by all means, luxuriate in these delicate bubbles of brilliance.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (HGtd0)

213 No, we call it America because that's similar to the name of the guy who made the first maps of the place.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (3Liv/)

The hell you say.

Posted by: Martin Waldseem�ller at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (7HtZB)

214 No, we call it America because that's similar to the name of the guy who made the first maps of the place.

The hell you say.

Posted by: Martin Waldseem�ller at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (7HtZB)

215 Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 08:49 AM (dFi94)

Not directed at you, but some people come here ONLY to attack Trump and ONLY attack attack Trump. NO mention of who they support or the consequences of their actions. And they also make stuff up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (zp+j1)

216 Folks, can we tone down the personal attacks on V the K, please? Pretty sure this is Viking the Kitten, who is an original commenter on this site.

It's whatever. The personal attacks are making my point better than I ever could.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (O7MnT)

217 In space no one can hear you fat rape.

Posted by: James Cameron at June 02, 2016 09:01 AM (gwG9s)

218 Is it really hard to say, "Ted Cruz is a very principled conservative

----

I don't believe that, so yes, very hard.

Because honesty.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 09:01 AM (fToHD)

219 Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (oqhrS)

Sounds like a good deal if you like the owner, and if I were you I'd probably go with the 16 SEER unit. From experience though, you have no way of knowing after the fact it it is actually saving you money in the long run.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:01 AM (wYnyS)

220 >>Hillary will make Ogabe look like he was sitting still with her mad dash left. Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:54 AM (g8Hfr)

Her leftward dash will end on 1/21/17, when she begins her governance of the Clinton kalistocracy. She'll govern as a center-left corporatist, prioritizing stability and the Clinton-corporate symbiosis, avoiding ideology (she has none, and doesn't need it or understand it), dispensing patronage carefully, punishing broadly and deeply, and patching up her dignity.

Posted by: General Zod at June 02, 2016 09:01 AM (Bdeb0)

221 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:47 AM (O7MnT)

Look, you speculated wildly about the motives and legitimacy of those who formerly supported Cruz and moved that support to Trump. I'm not sure why you're acting hurt that your speculations were soundly resented and rejected by those here who feel the characterization implied is deeply unfair.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 09:01 AM (GDulk)

222 In a sentence that probably sent AP writers to their safe spaces afterwards, they write:

Fresh problems for Obamacare: The largest health insurer in Texas wants to raise its rates on individual policies by an average of nearly 60 percent, a new sign that President Barack Obama's overhaul hasn't solved the problem of price spikes.

Ya think? The article goes on to mention a 44% hike in Vermont, 19% in one of the Carolinas, and moar bad news yet to come.

It doesn't mention that United Healthcare has pulled out of several major markets as well.

Thanks once again, 52%.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 02, 2016 09:01 AM (gyKtp)

223 and it sucks, BUT you know what....we need to act more like the democrats at the national level on tactics not content.

If the price of keeping donks from having supreme power is having shit flinging bonobo hordes in our ranks I suggest we wear raincoats and nose plugs.

This "winning by losing" shit has to stop.

I've told people for years: Keep taking the high road and keep having your ass handed to you.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:01 AM (oqhrS)

224 209 Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (/tuJf)

No Jack I didn't call a lot of Never Romney types retard you know why?

There weren't as many of them and they weren't as preening.

And I did in fact get up in the grill of some of the Never Mitts here, but was more polite about it.

V the K has powerful dicks in the right on his side like Billy Dee Kristol and Mitt Rombley himself.

I took a 4 month break from here to ruminate on the race b/c of Trump SuperFan, in the end I decided stopping Hillary was worth more than my ego.

You know like when I gave 4,000 bucks to Juan McQueeg a man I hate....

I am a political whore, I proved than in 96, 08 and 12...

We are largely arguing over price at this point.

My price is victory, and I assure you if he breaks the law in office I will burn up the internet demanding the GOP impeach his ass.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:03 AM (g8Hfr)

225 What I don't get it why it's so hard for the people who won not to be dicks.
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You mean aside from the perverse need some people have to continue the primary fight that ended a month ago?

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 02, 2016 09:04 AM (3Liv/)

226 208 And exactly how many times must Trump supporters praise Cruz before you'll get over it, V?

I'm not happy with Trump, but even I recognize that as of now Cruz is pretty much irrelevant.

Arrgh. All I am *asking* is why it's so damn hard for the Trump guys to be gracious in victory. I get that Cruz lost. I get that Walker lost. I get that Jeb, and Rubio, and all the other guys lost.

What I don't get it why it's so hard for the people who won not to be dicks.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (O7MnT)

Dude, you started this thing with your opening complaint.

You want the winners to apologize for winning.

And you want it just to continue the battle you already lost.

Your pleas for honesty and civility ring hollow.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:04 AM (MQEz6)

227
It's whatever. The personal attacks are making my point better than I ever could.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (O7MnT)

Uh, you opened the salvo this morning.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 02, 2016 09:04 AM (3hIZX)

228 131 Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 08:31 AM (MQEz6)

Like I said, nasty people.

One thing I always hated about the Obama Cult was how they could never be gracious in victory. Like the gay left when the SCOTUS imposed gay marriage on the country. They couldn't just take their victory, they had to rub it in the faces of the people who lost; the bakers, the florists, the people who just didn't agree.

The Trump Train seems to attract people of similar character.

Posted by: V the K

If certain non-Trump supporters weren't posturing as such sore losers, maybe Trump supporters would be more magnanimous in their huge, historic well-deserved and overwhelming victory.

Maybe.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at June 02, 2016 09:04 AM (kfcYC)

229 Or, you know, katanas at dawn and defeated village despoiling and fart-rapin' and pillagin' as you wish.

Carry on, good people.

Carry on.

Posted by: Comment Monitor #3,295 at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (J6XDt)

230 I think V the K wants an apology note from every single Trump voter and then he'll move on.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (fToHD)

231 we need to act more like the democrats at the national level on tactics not content.

The Democrats don't attack their own potential allies.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (O7MnT)

232
No, we call it America because that's similar to the name of the guy who made the first maps of the place.

North Vespuccia and South Vespuccia wouldn't cut it.

North Peruvia and South Peruvia, on the other hand...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (BK3ZS)

233 Not directed at you, but some people come here ONLY
to attack Trump and ONLY attack attack Trump. NO mention of who they
support or the consequences of their actions. And they also make stuff
up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (zp+j1)
==============================================

I understand, and you know I love you to pieces. It's just very hard for me to be enthusiastic for a guy who apparently hates true reform, and would welcome the opportunity to turn back the clock to Wisconsin's bad old days. We've fought so hard for reform. Literally neighbor against neighbor. It was hell. And to know that he would have been on the other side of that fight, does not give me a lot of confidence going forward.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:06 AM (dFi94)

234 PGA Tour moving from Trump-owned Doral course to MEXICO in 2017

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/pga/2016/06/01/ pga-tour-leaving-doral-donald-trump-mexico/85238620/

Idiots

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:06 AM (7lVbc)

235 I'd like to know why the pols decided that they would legally change sexes? Biologically, they are wrong. You cant change dna. And now you dont even have to have your weiner cut off, all you need is a doctor's note? Psychs are corrupt. And to use woman's restrooms and lockerrooms, you dont even need a note, just your feelz.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:06 AM (iQIUe)

236 @210 sven10077

"....we need to act more like the democrats at the national level on tactics not content."

I understand why Trump won and acknowledge he permeates a more agresseive approach we have looked for in a candidate, but save it for the democrats and not your idedological allies. Talk about shooting yourself and both feet.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 09:06 AM (E8UjU)

237 What I don't get it why it's so hard for the people who won not to be dicks.

and then,

The personal attacks are making my point better than I ever could.

There's irony in them thar hills.

Posted by: Up the Irons at June 02, 2016 09:07 AM (e8U/R)

238 Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (g8Hfr)

I love the smell of shit flinging bonobo hordes in the morning, smells like victory!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:07 AM (wYnyS)

239 Many decades ago I heard someone describe alimony succinctly as 'the screwing up you get for the screwing you got'. Donald Trump is the alimony the political class now receives for the screwing they have given us.

Now round and round it goes and where it stops nobody knows.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 09:07 AM (ZnIt3)

240 231 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (O7MnT)

1) horseshit feel the Barn baby

2) you have established that you will never vote for Trump, that anyone who will is a sister fucking trailer trash inbred subhuman intellect and beneath contempt

thus you are not a potential ally sport.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:07 AM (g8Hfr)

241 And I dont want to see women walking around topless, either. There is a time and place for everything. On the street is not a place for tits.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:08 AM (iQIUe)

242 Are there any ladies here? I want to talk dresses.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94)

243 The Democrats don't attack their own potential allies.
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Trump is the nominee.

#NeverTrumpers are, by definition, *not* our political allies.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 02, 2016 09:08 AM (3Liv/)

244

That gun at UCLA must have gone off by itself because there doesn't seem to be a shooter. At least that they will id

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (sp84W)

245 236 Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 09:06 AM (E8UjU)

When your opening position is Never Trump and you spend your time machine gunning people who will pull for "Not Hillary" you are not an ideological ally.

You are a tyrannical enabler.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (g8Hfr)

246 Hey grammie, is it about your wedding dress?

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (7lVbc)

247 I am in a state of righteous rage against a neighbor. Trying to maintain my cool. Fuckboy dodged a beating by mere seconds last night, he's due one today.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (2cS/G)

248 If someone has a factual argument, based on actual articulated policies and real occurrences, as to why The Hag is a better choice than Trump, I for one would love to hear it. Because what I mostly hear is conjecture, divination, WAG's, argumentum ad hominem, hypothesis and trolling.

By the way, I also either don't believe some of the people throwing stones are really Trump supporters or they fit with the description provided above.

An intellectual argument is a worthwhile endeavor. Pathos pleas, personal accusations and stone-throwing is pointless.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (O0lVq)

249
Arrgh. All I am *asking* is why it's so damn hard for the Trump guys to be gracious in victory. I get that Cruz lost. I get that Walker lost. I get that Jeb, and Rubio, and all the other guys lost.

What I don't get it why it's so hard for the people who won not to be dicks.

Perhaps being condescended to as a sister-fingering, racist, illiterate flaggot who subsists on a diet of meth and Kaboom! who should reallyjust up and die because one thinks Trump might be a candidate worth supporting has made some of those people a little less than appreciative of the grudging support of those who, only a few months ago, reveled in tagging others as "Trumpkins," "Trumpalos," "Drumpfbots," "Trump Tards," "Trump Trash" and so on.

Name-calling has been a proud American tradition since a newspaper editor wrote, "if ever a nation has been debauched by a man, it has been debauched by Washington." Get over it and gird for the battle against Scankles.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 09:10 AM (X6fMO)

250 The Democrats don't attack their own potential allies.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (O7MnT)

??? LMAO

So says the man that began this happy morning attacking other Republicans...Unless, as i suspect, you don't consider Republicans Allies.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:10 AM (zp+j1)

251 I thought the okie-doke was a secret handshake at Barry's gay bathhouse.

Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2016 09:10 AM (UzPAd)

252 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (O7MnT)

V, I like you personally. I still hope to get to proofread your next book, but you started the issue this morning. We can't help that you had a weird dream about scalp weasels and that caused you to decide that resigned for Cruz supporters had been lying the whole time and were really Trump mobys a along.l

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 09:10 AM (GDulk)

253 247 Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (2cS/G)

be careful of rabbit punches...

depending on local law enforcement and law you go from simple assault to "assault with intent"

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:10 AM (g8Hfr)

254 >>No Jack I didn't call a lot of Never Romney types retard you know why?

>>There weren't as many of them and they weren't as preening

Bullshit. Fucking DrewM posted an anti-Romney screed here every damn day. The sidebar was rdbrewer and was non-stop bashing of Romney. Some of the people on this site were the loudest anti-Romney types because he wasn't a True Conservative and the absurdity is they now support Trump.

It's friggin June 2nd. Nobody is voting for months. Trump hasn't even formally gotten the nomination yet. And he is an awful, shitty, no good crappy candidate whom nobody can predict what he would do if he actually won.

How about if Trump supporters do as I said and actually make a positive case for Trump. We all know how bad Hillary is, we all knew how bad a 2nd Obama term would be but that didn't get it done and those of us who thought Romney would make a good President didn't do a good enough job making that case obviously.

You need to do better if you want Trump to win because calling people who actually believe in conservative principles retards for not supporting a guy who is demonstrably not conservative is not a winning strategy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 09:11 AM (/tuJf)

255
After the first 100 or so times you have told us you will never vote for Trump, put a sock in it. We get it. You will never vote for Trump and all you are doing is trolling and spamming.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:11 AM (iQIUe)

256 >>>247
I am in a state of righteous rage against a neighbor. Trying to maintain
my cool. Fuckboy dodged a beating by mere seconds last night, he's due
one today. Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (2cS/G)

Beat or don't beat. There is no try.

Posted by: General Zod at June 02, 2016 09:11 AM (Bdeb0)

257
230 I think V the K wants an apology note from every single Trump voter and then he'll move on.
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 09:05 AM (fToHD)

All must be hand-written, too, or they don't count.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:11 AM (MQEz6)

258 Perhaps being condescended to as a sister-fingering, racist, illiterate
flaggot who subsists on a diet of meth and Kaboom! who should reallyjust
up and die because one thinks Trump might be a candidate worth
supporting has made some of those people a little less than appreciative
of the grudging support of those who, only a few months ago, reveled in
tagging others as "Trumpkins," "Trumpalos," "Drumpfbots," "Trump
Tards," "Trump Trash" and so on.

And everyone who opposes trump is a snobby elitist coastal jerk who sneers at flyover country and who only *really* opposes Trump because they are in the consultant class and want to keep their phony-baloney jobs among the DC elite, amirite?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (uAvJJ)

259 Hey grammie, is it about your wedding dress?

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (7lVbc)
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Yes! So I went in for my fitting and it was an absolute train wreck! The seamstress who couldn't speak English had completely botched the dress I had ordered from England and waited 5 months for. My daughter said it looked horrible. So I'm going to scrap it and wear a dress I got at Kohl's for $7. I feel guilty after spending the money for the first dress, but I feel ugly in it. Do you think it is okay to go with something off the rack?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (dFi94)

260
I am in a state of righteous rage against a neighbor. Trying to maintain my cool. Fuckboy dodged a beating by mere seconds last night, he's due one today.

What happened?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (X6fMO)

261 All must be hand-written, too, or they don't count.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:11 AM (MQEz6)

In ink on parchment notepaper!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (wYnyS)

262 Well the party is complete

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (zp+j1)

263 Have you noticed a curiously large number of comments in various comment-permitting fora that are some variation of: "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 07:45 AM (O7MnT)

I rarely post, couldn't let this comment pass. I am from Texas. I voted for Cruz for Senator and again for him in the primary. The last month he was still running he lost me. Glenn Beck??? Marvin Bush??? Sorry, I'm for Trump. And of all of the people I know who are for Trump, I don't know any that are nasty and of low character, or the other anti-Trump accusation - non college educated hillbillies. You seem to be a sore loser.

Posted by: Old Texas Chic at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (lLXZV)

264 247 I am in a state of righteous rage against a neighbor. Trying to maintain my cool. Fuckboy dodged a beating by mere seconds last night, he's due one today.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (2cS/G

Don't do it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (voOPb)

265 >>PGA Tour moving from Trump-owned Doral course to MEXICO in 2017

OMFG, I am so sick of sports being politicized!
Don't the PGA officials look petty doing that?
Hope they get shaken down by the local cartel just so they may appreciate America's freedoms more than they do now.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (NOIQH)

266 234 >> PGA Tour moving from Trump-owned Doral course to MEXICO in 2017

Posted by: Votermom

Yeah, Trump's response that they are gonna need kidnapping insurance is spot on. And since Mehico will be zika central by then, bring lots of DEET and birth control as well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (gyKtp)

267 I am in a state of righteous rage against a
neighbor. Trying to maintain my cool. Fuckboy dodged a beating by mere
seconds last night, he's due one today.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (2cS/G)

Sounds more interesting than the re-hash of the recent re-hashing of the previously hashed Trump V. Cruz kerfuffle.

What happened?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (7VPW0)

268 Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 09:11 AM (/tuJf)

The Primaries are over.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (MQEz6)

269 Christ on a crutch, the nickelfuckery is thick this morning.

Later, Horde.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at June 02, 2016 09:14 AM (9krrF)

270 Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (2cS/G)

You do have a backhoe, right?

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:14 AM (wYnyS)

271 254 Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 09:11 AM (/tuJf)

Yes Jack...so I was not almost perma-banned for getting up in Drew's grill during the actual ELECTION cycle?

You are aware that Gabe has a poster of my Raccoon icon he throws javelins at?

I think Drew just considers me an idiot.

Keep trying.

I implicitly said I know V the K is NOT a retard thus he is either cashing a check or working for dental.

The die is fucking cast, sanity lost...unfortunately unlike the Tolkeinian elves I can't just "go home" thus I live and fight here on this fucked up Earth.

Grammy H will finish off a right that is probably already a dead letter.

The GOP is importing the people that will empower the murder of the Bill of Rights with the same zeal the Donks are.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:14 AM (g8Hfr)

272 So, will any criticism of the Trump or his supporters ever be permitted? Please advise.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (O7MnT)

273 Oh, grammie that sounds awful! Glad you have a back-up dress. Nothing wrong with off the rack - I got my dress at the local mall's Jessica McClintock store and it was lovely.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (NOIQH)

274 Christ on a crutch, the nickelfuckery is thick this morning.

Later, Horde.

*parachutes into thread*

Ruh roh.

What are you rapscallions up to?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (1xUj/)

275 258 Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (uAvJJ)

Not *everyone* Jeff...

Glad you're alive mate.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (g8Hfr)

276 And he is an awful, shitty, no good crappy candidate whom nobody can predict what he would do if he actually won.

That is being too kind to Trump. He is NOT this giant unknown.

We have a pretty good idea what he would do. He would be just as imperious of a jerk as Hildabeast would. Forget his words, look at his actions. Look at how he treated Vera Coking - tried to use the power of the state to evict her. Look at how he treats reporters who makes claims that he disagrees with - he tries to sue them to force them to shut up. Look at how he treats his own customers a la Trump University - he defrauds them.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (uAvJJ)

277 Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (dFi94)

Absolutely! Go with what makes you feel beautiful and confident. The fact that this is a second wedding makes it even easier. As long as you look good, and look happy no one who cares about you will care where the dress came from.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (GDulk)

278 but I feel ugly in it. Do you think it is okay to go with something off the rack?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (dFi94)

As a guy, we don't care about the dress, we care what's under the dress!! He's getting a trophy wife whether the dress is from the UK or Kohls.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (voOPb)

279 Christ on a crutch, the nickelfuckery is thick this morning. "

I am so stealing that.

Oh, and it's all obviously Trump's fault. Or Cruze.

Either way, Captain Ed over at tepid fumes wants to believe that Mittens was "conservative"...

I lol'd.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (C9pBZ)

280 Posted by: GnuBreed at June 02, 2016 09:13 AM (gyKtp)

Add in the fact that Mexico City is 6,000+ ASL, and ...

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (wYnyS)

281
272 So, will any criticism of the Trump or his supporters ever be permitted? Please advise.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (O7MnT)

Of course it is.

Responses are permitted, too.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (MQEz6)

282 272 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (O7MnT)

You know who pisses me off?

Fucking John C fucking Fremont....

John C Fremont fucked up the wonderful candidate we had in Biff Saunders.

ie the Primary is over Tiger....buy a clue.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:17 AM (g8Hfr)

283 Either way, Captain Ed over at tepid fumes wants to believe that Mittens was "conservative"...

I lol'd.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (C9pBZ)

He got it wrong, Mittens was "severely" conservative!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:17 AM (wYnyS)

284 The UK is experiencing brownouts. Not sure why since it is not warm yet.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:17 AM (iQIUe)

285 @245 sven10077

I don't buy the "nevertrump" BS. They are waiting for an offer and are holding out for a better price, but they will come around before the autumn.

Currently I would predict Don is going to win in landslide. One of the big indicators was when the AFL-CIO pledged to support Hillary, but mentioned that Trump is resonating with their members.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (E8UjU)

286 He's getting a trophy wife whether the dress is from the UK or Kohls.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (voOPb)

Hard to beat that sentiment!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (wYnyS)

287 It's whatever. The personal attacks are making my point better than I ever could.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:00 AM (O7MnT)
_______________________________

I know, it's like a vast right wing conspiracy. I get that all the time...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (HSmrB)

288 *parachutes into thread*

Ruh roh.

What are you rapscallions up to?

Getting a new central air system installed with the money I saved by switching to Geico!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (oqhrS)

289 Nothing wrong with off the rack - I got my dress at the local mall's Jessica McClintock store and it was lovely.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (NOIQH)
========================================

Oh I bet it was wonderful! A step up from Kohl's that's for sure. I'm actually kind of proud that I got it for seven bucks. Thinking about leaving the price tag on.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (dFi94)

290 "How's about we try winning by fucking winning for a change?"

What a concept .... I think it might work.

Dunno, just reminds me of a thought I had maybe last year and repeatedly since then, about Abraham Lincoln saying of General Grant: "I can't spare this man, he fights.".

Oh, and g'mornin', Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez_and_the_dogs at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (gUoN4)

291 Hi Sven, good to see you too this morning

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (uAvJJ)

292 *parachutes into thread*

Welcome to St Mere Eglise...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (C9pBZ)

293 Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (uAvJJ)

The Primaries are over.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (MQEz6)

294 So, will any criticism of the Trump or his supporters ever be permitted? Please advise.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (O7MnT)

Are you serious? That's all you do. It seems pathological at this point. Now you're asking permission to keep doing it?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (4ng05)

295 How about if Trump supporters do as I said and actually make a positive case for Trump.
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The illegal aliens need to go or the welfare state needs to go because we can't afford both.

The islamic colonization of America needs to be stopped because we can't trust them not to try to impose sharia once they have the numbers to do so.

The current array of international "free trade" treaties need to be completely burned down because they facilitate the moving of jobs from here to slave labor overseas, which moves working Americans to the welfare roles, which we already can't afford. Additionally, they tend to benefit the chamber of commerce crowd whose influence in our politics must end.

If our nuclear weapons are to have any value, and we spent a ton to build them, and one hopes maintain them, the rest of the world must believe whoever is in the White House might use them. The Clintons and Bushes took them off the table and we got 9/11.

Posted by: Methos, AoSHQ commenter since 2006, now apparently nonvoting democrat at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (3Liv/)

296 Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:12 AM (dFi94)

Omg! I would've killed the seamstress!

Go with the Kohl' s dress - doesn't matter where you got it what matters is you feel good in it

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (7lVbc)

297 283 Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:17 AM (wYnyS)

Sternly, severely, ACHINGLY conservative...

stress on "con"...

//Mirror Universe Poppin' Fresh

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (g8Hfr)

298
Lying fuck State Department "Admiral" lying on FandF about memory-holing press conference video.

No one "remembers" how it happened.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (EZebt)
----------------------

You'd think former military would be a little less beta in making a complete ass of himself to defend a lying bitch. But no.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (pC96u)

299 Also, I'm so very sorry all your dress stuff sucked. If that seamstress was recommended by someone you should let that someone know ,kindly, about your experience. Beyond that, I'm nervous ordering at McDonalds from someone who doesn't seem to grasp English since the order accuracy goes *way* down. Something like a wedding dress requires a lot better communication than a hamburger.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (GDulk)

300 Look at how he treated Vera Coking - tried to use the power of the state to evict her.

you know chemjeff you should really get a clue about Eminent Domain finally. The fact that you just make shit up shows your intent is not to legitimately discuss anything but only to bash Trump.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (zp+j1)

301 So...I thought the 'salt kills' bullshit went in the bin with the 'cholesterol kills' and 'eat moar carbs' bullshit. Yet, the gummint and the Committee of Commie Scientists In the Pubic Interest are looking to crack down on their latest cause du jour.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (3hIZX)

302 So, an invoice of $8212.00 installed for a 3 ton Heat Pump with an inside air handler unit came out to $5312.00 vs. $7200.00 quoted by the first company.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 08:56 AM (oqhrS)

I'm late to this discussion, but I thought your AC unit died, not the whole heating and cooling system.

A heat pump is a compromise system used where you need heating and cooling. If you're still going to use a forced air natural gas furnace, I believe you're giving up cooling efficiency in a pure AC compressor/evaporator unit.

3 ton/16 SEER split systems run about $2 - $3K for the equipment. If the installer is just replacing an old system, no new duct work or relocating the compressor, the labor should be about the same.

Keep looking for a total cost of about $5K for a premium AC unit complete.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (Zs4uk)

303 Is it fart rape or frat rape? If frat rape I'll write a story for Rolling Stone.

Posted by: Sabrina Erdely at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (gwG9s)

304 >>Thinking about leaving the price tag on.

I'm sure you'll look amazing!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (NOIQH)

305 Bernie picks up a major endorsement.

http://tinyurl.com/h6p8q7a

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (Nwg0u)

306 The UK is experiencing brownouts. Not sure why since it is not warm yet.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:17 AM (iQIUe)

The wind stopped blowing. Which means it's time for the next green boondoggle.....giant fans to blow on the wind generators.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (7VPW0)

307 grammie

you have to feel good on your wedding dress...if you feel better in the off the rack dress....go with it! can you do something with the other dress? find another seamstress?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (0O7c5)

308 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at June 02, 2016 09:16 AM (voOPb)
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Awww.... that's sweet. But everyone knows that no one gives a rip about the groom. He's just kind of there as a place-holder.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (dFi94)

309 TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!!

Posted by: Mortimer Duke at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (3hIZX)

310
And everyone who opposes trump is a snobby elitist coastal jerk who sneers at flyover country and who only *really* opposes Trump because they are in the consultant class and want to keep their phony-baloney jobs among the DC elite, amirite?

Nope.

I've read plenty of legitimate opposition to Trump. Grammie above did a nice little job of laying out an objection. But you can't deny that there has been a great deal of Coddington Van Voorhees IV objection to the short-fingered vulgarian on display throughout the primary season.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (X6fMO)

311 You know, I can't help but think that the tepid fume website led to this morning's joy...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (C9pBZ)

312 Here at Target unfortunately we do not sell wedding dresses. But if we did we would heartily welcome transgender people into our changing rooms, penis and all.

Posted by: Target Stores at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (ZnIt3)

313 Oh, yeah, what happened. Yesterday a smallish dog crawled under my fence into my yard, where my 110 pound mastiff was napping. Fortunately for the beagle-mix-whatever, Jane was in a good mood. I called the number on the lost dog's tag, got no answer/no voicemail. Posted on a neighborhood FB site, someone id'd the owner, I called the new number. While I was dialing, his stupid dog ran out of my yard, right towards the busiest street in the neighborhood. I smashed my phone while grabbing "Shorty" by the collar and keeping him out of the radius of a turning bus. Fuckboy showed up just as I had brought/carried his dog back to the side streets, I gave him his dog. Then I got home and posted an account of the event on the same neighborhood FB page, and was immediately slammed for "shaming" and "bullying" the dog owner. He chimed in with some choice words himself. I went to the part of the street where I know he lives and called his name a few times last night, heard nothing in return. This morning I am banned from the FB group and need to go get a new phone.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (2cS/G)

314
Do you think it is okay to go with something off the rack?
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Hell yes!

As for the other dress, you can salvage it by taking it to a decent seamstress and having it transformed in some way. Trim it down and dye it, whatever. Wear it to a special dinner on your first anniversary.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (pC96u)

315 You'd think former military would be a little less beta in making a complete ass of himself to defend a lying bitch. But no.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:19 AM (pC96u)

The purge of senior ranks appears to have been most successful comrade!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:22 AM (wYnyS)

316 291 Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:18 AM (uAvJJ)

Jeff, you know no matter what partisan passions fire this idiot season I have for years and will always respect your intellect and character so far as I can know it in this realm of 1s and 0s.

I have had relationships with many of the people here for nigh a decade and I love most all here.

I assure you I am not in a state of estratic joy and readiness at what I face this fall.

I lost, and sanity lost. I cannot stand losing a third time in a row to insanity squared.

sven

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:22 AM (g8Hfr)

317 *parachutes into thread*

Welcome to St Mere Eglise...

Crap. My unit was supposed to land behind Caen.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 02, 2016 09:22 AM (1xUj/)

318
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (2cS/G)

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The dog will probably escape again. Plan accordingly.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:23 AM (pC96u)

319 I'm just waiting for my new precision rifle. 10 months and counting now...

Posted by: Marcus T at June 02, 2016 09:23 AM (O0lVq)

320 Lying fuck State Department "Admiral" lying on FandF about memory-holing press conference video.

No one "remembers" how it happened.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 02, 2016 08:05 AM (EZebt)

It's amazing how little these people know.

I wonder if I were to walk into the State Dept and start giving orders to people to do all kinds of illegal and unethical shit, if they'd just do it out of hand?

"Who told you to do the illegal shit?"

"I don't know. Somebody. Couldn't say exactly."

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:23 AM (4ng05)

321 I thought the 'salt kills' bullshit went in the bin with the 'cholesterol kills' and 'eat moar carbs' bullshit. "

It did, but note that all of the above are still Official Government Policy.

Top. Men. and all that, you know.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:23 AM (C9pBZ)

322 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (zp+j1)

You are the one who is uninformed in the Vera Coking matter.

Vera Coking refused Trump's offer of purchase, so what did he do? He ran to the local development authority to try to force her to sell the house. He was able to do that because he is a member of the rich, powerful and connected class in Atlantic City who could bend local government to his whim.

That is the truth of the matter. The matter really isn't about eminent domain. The matter is Trump's abuse of power.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:23 AM (uAvJJ)

323 can you do something with the other dress? find another seamstress?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (0O7c5)
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I'm thinking that I might be able to salvage the dress with another seamstress in town, and possibly use it for my son's wedding next summer. It's not specifically a bridal gown. It's pale blush pink with a lace overlay, so depending on what son's fiance says, I could possibly use it next year.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:24 AM (dFi94)

324 I lost, and sanity lost. I cannot stand losing a third time in a row to insanity squared.

sven
Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:22 AM (g8Hfr)

So, how exactly are you going to win?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (4ng05)

325 I'm late to this discussion, but I thought your AC unit died, not the whole heating and cooling system.

Outside unit did die. All electric home. No nat gas.
Used older type freon. Newer 410a freon runs about 400 psi vs 200 psi for older system. Very good chance the new outside unit will blow up inside air handler. System is 13 years old.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (oqhrS)

326 PGA Tour moving from Trump-owned Doral course to MEXICO in 2017

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Heads will roll!! No, really.

Posted by: Los Zetas at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (iQIUe)

327
it's time for the next green boondoggle.....giant fans to blow on the wind generators.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (7VPW0)
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Can't you line up a bunch of unicorns and have them fart?

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (pC96u)

328 Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (O7MnT)

Well, I certainly don't recommend *speculating on the motives* of those here as that is seen as a personal attack. You didn't start out by saying it seemed like Trump supporters were bad winners, or even that you wondered how dedicated some of the Cruz support had been. Instead you implied that Cruz supporters *here* had always been Trump mobys. If you can't see the difference between those it will be difficult to move further.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (GDulk)

329 But you can't deny that there has been a great deal
of Coddington Van Voorhees IV objection to the short-fingered vulgarian
on display throughout the primary season.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 09:21 AM (X6fMO)
Just like you cannot deny that there has been a great deal of support for Trump coming from the ignorant flag-waving sister-humping racist redneck crowd, amirite?
You can't have it both ways

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (uAvJJ)

330
Crap. My unit was supposed to land behind Caen.

You shouldn't have made that left turn at Alberquerque.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 09:26 AM (X6fMO)

331 Have a nice day people, I need a drink after this!

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 02, 2016 09:26 AM (wYnyS)

332 Vera Coking refused Trump's offer of purchase, so what did he do? He ran to the local development authority to try to force her to sell the house. He was able to do that because he is a member of the rich, powerful and connected class in Atlantic City who could bend local government to his whim.

That is the truth of the matter. The matter really isn't about eminent domain. The matter is Trump's abuse of power.
Po

You have no idea what your talking about or about eminent domain or about local governments or about developers or progress. You got an ax to grind and just make shit up to support your fantasies. Keep digging

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:26 AM (zp+j1)

333 So the EgyptAir jet made 3 emergency landings in the 24 hrs before it crashed.

Posted by: Los Zetas at June 02, 2016 09:26 AM (iQIUe)

334 So, how exactly are you going to win?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (4ng05)
Limited government is not going to win this election season, no matter who is elected.

Heck, reason in decision-making is not going to win this election season, no matter who is elected.
The state will continue to consume more and more personal liberty whether Trump or Clinton wins.
Why should I endorse either one?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:26 AM (uAvJJ)

335
Sternly, severely, ACHINGLY conservative...

So conservative that he put women in BINDERS!

BDSM conservatism, now! And with assless chaps!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 09:27 AM (BK3ZS)

336 So, will any criticism of the Trump or his supporters ever be permitted? Please advise.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (O7MnT)

people who pretend not to know the difference between ad hominem attacks, straw men, sweeping generalizations and legitimate criticism are suspect, like they have an agenda

Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 09:27 AM (c6/9Q)

337 "Outside unit did die. All electric home."

That makes the difference...

I was just looking at replacing the geothermal heat pump at my son's house for a natural gas furnace and regular 3 ton ac unit. That's how I happened to be familiar with the prices.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2016 09:27 AM (Zs4uk)

338 Crap. My unit was supposed to land behind Caen."

Well, your unit was mostly the ignorant flag-waving sister-humping racist redneck crowd, so there's that...

Heh.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:28 AM (C9pBZ)

339
Has anyone heard from Her Malevolentness today?

Woman fined $2M for fire started by flamethrower used on squirrel

http://tinyurl.com/zxjmrqj

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2016 09:28 AM (gl5Kd)

340 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:20 AM (zp+j1)

Why are you being so obtuse? Trump was attempting to partner with the local government to force the homeowner to give up her property under eminent domain so he could build his parking garage, the local government was shot down by the court.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:28 AM (71st6)

341 324 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (4ng05)

Trump will be contained in a way Grammy H will not.

Grammy will get oral love from the newsies, the Donks, and the GOP DC All-Stars in a way Trump won't...

we may accidentally get a non-marxist judge...

we are guaranteed not to under Grammy.

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 09:28 AM (g8Hfr)

342 I won't be voting for Trump, but I won't discourage anyone else from voting for him if that's what they think is best. If he wins, I will hope for the best and prepare for the worst; but I will expect very little. If he wins, I hope the need for spiking and recriminations will pass.

I am not optimistic about it, but one can always hope.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:28 AM (O7MnT)

343
247 I am in a state of righteous rage against a neighbor. Trying to maintain my cool. Fuckboy dodged a beating by mere seconds last night, he's due one today.
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 02, 2016 09:09 AM (2cS/G)

So, he's a Trump supporter?

Posted by: Spun and Murky at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (4DCSq)

344
Just like you cannot deny that there has been a great deal of support for Trump coming from the ignorant flag-waving sister-humping racist redneck crowd, amirite?
You can't have it both ways

**rolls eyes**

Whatever. Get your Drumpf hate on. I really don't care. Barring an assassination or a last-minute convention nickelfucking, he's going to be the GOP standard bearer. So you can either vote for him or not. That's the wonder of America.

Brother Cavil had the right idea this morning.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (X6fMO)

345 Heck, reason in decision-making is not going to win this election season, no matter who is elected.
The state will continue to consume more and more personal liberty whether Trump or Clinton wins.
Why should I endorse either one?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:26 AM (uAvJJ)

You said you didn't want to lose again. That kind of implies that you plan to win. How?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (4ng05)

346 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:26 AM (zp+j1)

You can't refute my comment so you just go further and further into the personal insults.

Read this for starters

http://ij.org/case/casino-reinvestment-development-authority-v-coking/

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (uAvJJ)

347 You said you didn't want to lose again. That kind of implies that you plan to win. How?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (4ng05)
I don't *want* to lose, but none of the options in front of me would represent "winning".

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (uAvJJ)

348 Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 09:27 AM (c6/9Q)

Is Trump's stated support of equal access to bathrooms a strawman, ad hominem or sweeping generalization?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:30 AM (71st6)

349 EgyptAir jet made 3 emergency landings in the 24 hrs before it crashed

I was one of the few people arguing that it probably wasn't terrorism when the plane went down. I got some grief over that, too.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:30 AM (O7MnT)

350 295 If our nuclear weapons are to have any value, and we spent a ton to
build them, and one hopes maintain them, the rest of the world must
believe whoever is in the White House might use them. The Clintons and
Bushes took them off the table and we got 9/11.

Posted by: Methos

This. Not to mention for the last 7+ years, it has been doubtful that TFG would retaliate even if the US or one of our treaty allies suffered a WMD attack. Trump presents as just crazy enough to do so, and that has a deterrent value of its own. Kinda like how Iran let our hostages go the day Reagan was inaugurated.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 02, 2016 09:30 AM (gyKtp)

351 Vera Coking refused Trump's offer of purchase, so what did he do? He ran to the local development authority to try to force her to sell the house. He was able to do that because he is a member of the rich, powerful and connected class in Atlantic City who could bend local government to his whim.

And he still lost. And her heirs received less than a fifth of what he originally offered.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:30 AM (oqhrS)

352
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (X6fMO)

The point is, you get into a righteous fury whenever anyone suggests Trump's base might be less than totally upstanding, but don't mind condemning Trump's opponents as Coddington Van Voohrees VII clones.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:31 AM (uAvJJ)

353 I guess Bill Kristol doesn't consider the Libertarians a third party.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 02, 2016 09:31 AM (3hIZX)

354 Just like you cannot deny that there has been a great deal of support for Trump coming from the ignorant flag-waving sister-humping racist redneck crowd, amirite?You can't have it both ways
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (uAvJJ) We get it. You don't like Trump or those that might vote for him. Really used to like your posts on the ONT.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (22uju)

355 So anyway

Had a guy on a motorcycle get hit by a car coming out of a driveway. Wouldn't be so awful but the guy then skittered across to the nearby overpass and tumbled over, plummeting to oncoming traffic.

Yeah, that was bad.

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (fToHD)

356 UCLA shooter must have something special to get this kind of secrecy

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (sp84W)

357 And he still lost. And her heirs received less than a fifth of what he originally offered.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:30 AM (oqhrS)
Yes he lost, thankfully.

But his actions give us a reasonable basis to speculate on what he might do. He isn't this stalwart defender of individual liberty. He isn't this "great unknown" who might be "50/50" in standing up for the Fifth Amendment. His *own actions* demonstrate that he is hostile towards it.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (uAvJJ)

358

I don't *want* to lose, but none of the options in front of me would represent "winning".
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:29 AM (uAvJJ)

So what exactly is the point to all of the incessant bitching? You way of insuring that you aren't alone in your defeat and misery?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (4ng05)

359 At least the 13 year old boy didn't get saddled with child support payments to his statutory rapist. It has happened before.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (0mRoj)

360 Seems appropriate that TFG's Ambassador for Global Entrepreneurship, whatever that means, is a failure and a fraud.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 09:33 AM (0mRoj)

361 And he still lost."

Well, that's unhelpful information...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:34 AM (C9pBZ)

362 So what exactly is the point to all of the incessant
bitching? You way of insuring that you aren't alone in your defeat and
misery?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (4ng05)
What is the point of all the incessant bitching against Hillary, or Obama, or anyone else here?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:34 AM (uAvJJ)

363 What is the point of all the incessant bitching against Hillary, or Obama, or anyone else here?"

What, no elbows thread interest?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:35 AM (C9pBZ)

364 Trump will be contained in a way Grammy H will not.
=======================================

This is the stage where I think I'm at right now. I've been praying about this, because there is so much of Trump that just isn't right, and I don't know what to do. The other night when I was praying, the thought that invaded my head was this: "As far as it is up to you, restrain as much of the evil as you can." The picture that came into my brain was of two horses running wild into darkness, and I was riding on one of them, and I was pulling on the reins with all of my might.

Restrain as much evil as I can. That's where I am.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:35 AM (dFi94)

365 272 So, will any criticism of the Trump or his supporters ever be permitted? Please advise.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:15 AM (O7MnT)

I criticized him plenty earlier, and I presently plan to vote for the man in the general. I called him a sleaze weasel, and said that his character was comparable to that of a used car salesman. That's just the simple unvarnished truth, and I don't think anyone would argue that point a whole lot. He's certainly not sainthood material.

I don't criticize his supporters. Insulting someone's intelligence and calling them names is not going to change their minds, it's only going to cause them to circle the wagons, dig in, and fight harder. It's completely unproductive, and I didn't do that when I started this cycle on Team Trump, or after I defected to Team Cruz (following the waffling on the Wall). This is a place for discussion and persuasion. If you want to do scorn and derision here, please direct it against Hillary, Bernie, etc. Not the only alternative choice we presently have.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (HalrA)

366 That makes the difference...

I was just looking at replacing the geothermal heat pump at my son's house for a natural gas furnace and regular 3 ton ac unit. That's how I happened to be familiar with the prices.

Yeah. Best price so far on both inside outside straight 14 SEER A/C system is $7200.00.
It's Texas and it's getting hot.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (oqhrS)

367
Go long on scapegoats. Really, really long.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (BK3ZS)

368 What is the point of all the incessant bitching against Hillary, or Obama, or anyone else here?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:34 AM (uAvJJ)

Seriously? So you are actively campaigning against Trump? To what end? You would rather have Hillary?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (4ng05)

369
UCLA shooter must have something special to get this kind of secrecy
Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:32 AM (sp84W)
-----------------------

About this UCLA shooter, although it wasn't one of those blaze-of-glory massacres, maybe the cops and police for once are suppressing publicity in order to discourage copycats. I read some police expert who said that's the way to prevent those tragedies.

Posted by: iforgot at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (pC96u)

370 I've been looking through the June 2012 archives, and of course JackStraw's account of DrewM's perfidy is, to put it charitably, flawed.

Posted by: situation normal at June 02, 2016 09:37 AM (2WoCi)

371 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party"

Wait, reasonable thoughts on AoS?

I'm gobsmacked.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 09:37 AM (C9pBZ)

372 Is Trump's stated support of equal access to bathrooms a strawman, ad hominem or sweeping generalization?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:30 AM (71st6)

since Trump never "stated his support" and merely said that he preferred that particular issue left to the states, i would file that under straw man ("fallacy of extension", if you will). is there anything else i can clarify for you ?

Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 09:37 AM (c6/9Q)

373 Trump was attempting to partner with the local government to force the homeowner to give up her property under eminent domain so he could build his parking garage, the local government was shot down by the court.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:28 AM (71st6)

Because it has nothing to do with trump. It is up the local Government, and ONLY the local government, to initiate an eminent domain action. And they do it for their own selfish reasons: HIGHER TAX RATES and more money in the local budget. You don't like the law fine, go change it. But to blame it on Trump is just out of line a weak argument. You don't like Trump fine, there are many reasons not to. Eminent Domain is weak real weak

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (zp+j1)

374 If you want to do scorn and derision here, please
direct it against Hillary, Bernie, etc. Not the only alternative choice
we presently have.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (HalrA)
And this is where I disagree. They are ALL lying scumbags and ALL deserve to be called out for the shitweasels that they are.
People around here complain about Obama and Hillary all the time.
People around here complain about McConnell and Ryan all the time.
Why should Trump get the kid gloves treatment?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (uAvJJ)

375 >>372
Is Trump's stated support of equal access to bathrooms a strawman, ad hominem or sweeping generalization?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:30 AM (71st6)

Yes. No.

Posted by: General Zod at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (Bdeb0)

376 But his actions give us a reasonable basis to speculate on what he might do.

And Hillz DIDNT FUCKING ANSWER THE 3 AM BENGHAZI PHONE CALL.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! We KNOW what she will do.

You fucking people are so hung up on "what might happen" that you totally blow off total "knowns".

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (oqhrS)

377 This morning I am banned from the FB group and need to go get a new phone.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Kudos for saving the dog, bummer that he has to go home with an asshole owner though.

How is anything you posted "shaming" or "bullying" though? Using those words dumbs them down to meaninglessness.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (PFy0L)

378 Wanna buy a map?

Posted by: Pepito Americano at June 02, 2016 09:39 AM (sl+zA)

379 Restrain as much evil as I can. That's where I am.�Posted by:�grammie winger

The Clinton's are as much evil as I've ever seen on this planet.

So that's where I am.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 09:39 AM (ZnIt3)

380
Because it has nothing to do with trump. It is up the local
Government, and ONLY the local government, to initiate an eminent domain
action.

Oh BWAHAHA. Who do you think ASKED for the local government to step in and try to seize Vera Coking's house?

Are you really trying to argue that the CRDA tried to take Vera Coking's house out of the blue, without any prodding or suggestion from Trump at all?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:39 AM (uAvJJ)

381 That is the truth of the matter. The matter really isn't about eminent domain. The matter is Trump's abuse of power.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:23 AM (uAvJJ)

And you've established that he's a man of low character. I got the message. We all do. Will Hillary be better?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 09:40 AM (HalrA)

382 PGA Tour moving from Trump-owned Doral course to MEXICO in 2017

===========

Heads will roll!! No, really.
Posted by: Los Zetas at June 02, 2016 09:25 AM (iQIUe)

*****

Looks like a pretty severe break on this green. Better go outside edge or even a little more. And make sure to hit it firmly.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon, caddying for Los Zetas at June 02, 2016 09:40 AM (mvenn)

383 Yeah. Best price so far on both inside outside straight 14 SEER A/C system is $7200.00.
It's Texas and it's getting hot.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (oqhrS)

Just a thought, but we looked at Mitsubishi multiple zone split systems (18 SEER) that were pretty impressive. They didn't work for us, but in Texas it would be a natural.

Posted by: jwest at June 02, 2016 09:40 AM (Zs4uk)

384 Have you noticed a curiously large number of comments in various comment-permitting fora that are some variation of: "I voted for Cruz, but he ran a shitty campaign and Trump is the nominee and I will support him."

Why do I question the sincerity of these comments?

First of all, it's all too convenient that this formulation would start showing up now. Second, it's exactly what the Trump supporters want... that supporters of other candidates will "get on the Trump train;" and they probably think that it's more persuasive if this imperative is coming from other supporters of defeated campaigns. Third, it's the inevitable dig... "Cruz ran a shitty campaign" that just so neatly fits the nastiness of the Trump campaign: Yeah, we want your support, but we can't help ourselves making one more dig to rub it in.

Posted by: V the K

And exactly how many times must Trump supporters praise Cruz before you'll get over it, V?

I'm not happy with Trump, but even I recognize that as of now Cruz is pretty much irrelevant.

Arrgh. All I am *asking* is why it's so damn hard for the Trump guys to be gracious in victory. I get that Cruz lost. I get that Walker lost. I get that Jeb, and Rubio, and all the other guys lost.

What I don't get it why it's so hard for the people who won not to be dicks.
Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 08:59 AM (O7MnT)

Well, I guess I'm part of that grand conspiracy of yours, V the K.

Cuz I supported Cruz and voted for him. And if you care to check, you'll find that in the comments of past threads.

You'll also find that around, oh say, January, that I was talking about how Cruz needed to start using his debate time addressing "kitchen table" issues and connecting with the voters-

Guess what? He never did. He kept up with his plan of "I'm the most conservative conservative what ever conserved" way past its sell date because people already knew that after 4-5 debates.

I knew that was a problem after I saw the Texas numbers- which should've been a blowout.

Cruz wasn't moving much beyond his base within the party.

It doesn't take much of a politician to get people who are for you and believe as you believe to vote for you-

a successful retail politician needs to bring in more people than that-

Cruz failed miserably at that.

But wait, there's more:

When Ben Carson started whining about Cruz' people saying that he was going to leave the race-

based on Carson's own people's press releases

What did Cruz do? In a year when people wanted a fighter.

Cruz weaseled around and apologized in essence for Carson's mistake-

That's good campaigning.

Instead, he should have said, "Hey Ben, that was your press release. Your mistake. A Good campaign requires good control you are failing to provide for that. Take responsibility for your mistakes and do better next time." Or words to that effect.

Lousy. Campaigning. You don't take blame for other's errors. It makes you look weak and/or disingenuous.

But, wait! There's more!

When Trump's rallies were disrupted by violent protests,

Cruz actually got up and blamed Trump first because of his speeches.

YUUUUGE mistake, which undercut the whole premise of Cruz being the most constitutional constitutionalist what ever constituted constitutionalizing.

If you're going to present yourself as Mr Constitution, then you damn well stand in the fire, and give a full throated support for Free Speech.

What you do not do is weasel around looking for political advantage on your signature issue and undercut your own image.

Lousy. Campaigning.

And I could go on.

If you want a Cruz presidency which I would like,

then you don't help him avoid future failure by whining about how great he was.

Cruz has some serious work to do in connecting his conservatism and constitutionalism to bread and butter/kitchen table issues that help and inspire voters outside his core group, which is exactly what Reagan did.

I guess all of this renewed whining is because Levin was all sour grapes (while denying he was sour grapes) about Trump's win and Cruz' loss and was whining his head off.

What's the endgame here? A Hillary! victory.

Yeah, great thinking there.

Kids raised on over 16 years of TFG/Hillary! anti-American unconstitutional criminal treasonous regimes are not going to have a single idea of what America is or is about.

Trump may only be a baby-step in the right direction but at least it's not the rocket-train to hell and destruction of the middle class and jobs that Hillary! represents.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2016 09:40 AM (HGtd0)

385 UCLA shooter must have something special to get this kind of secrecy

I was just thinking that this morning when I was listing to the news on the radio.

Usually by now we have the shooter's shoe size and what he ate for breakfast that day.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 02, 2016 09:41 AM (PFy0L)

386 Just like you cannot deny that there has been a great deal of support for Trump coming from the ignorant flag-waving sister-humping racist redneck crowd, amirite?

You say that as if there's something wrong with all that.

Posted by: Insomniac at June 02, 2016 09:42 AM (0mRoj)

387 >> I've been looking through the June 2012 archives, and of course JackStraw's account of DrewM's perfidy is, to put it charitably, flawed.

Sure it is. Drew was proudly the anyone but Romney guy flipping between each and every candidate in turn including Perry and Newt and ending up with frigging Santorum before finally throwing in the towel. Restate and Erick Ericsson were quoted often here as was Phillip Klein because both of them were viscerally anti-Romney. Hell, Redstate banned anyone who had anything good to say about Romney. And of course, to this day the often quoted Allahpundit still beats on Romney. Keep reading. There are other months in the calendar than June and last cycle the RNC was much later, in September.

It's not even debatable.

I get that some people like Sven are tired of losing. Some of us were tired in 2012. But pretending this is some new phenomenon is totally dishonest.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 09:42 AM (/tuJf)

388 Why should Trump get the kid gloves treatment?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (uAvJJ)

It's not the same thing, and you know it. The anti-Trump rhetoric isn't against anything he has done politically, it is against hypothetical injustices he MIGHT do.

It reeks of paranoia.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:42 AM (4ng05)

389 Rickb thanks for the hvac update. So what brand will it be?

I called the guys who did the original install since they already know about our system. He said our furnace is still good to keep if we want since it is already high efficiency, possible to just replace AC.
But we'd be getting another York in that case.

Gonna call another place later.

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:42 AM (7lVbc)

390 Reckon this shooter is an East Asian who got busted for cheating.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (D61gk)

391 Rickb thanks for the hvac update. So what brand will it be?

Crap. American Standard.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (oqhrS)

392 About the evil man who likely tortured and killed his girlfriend:

"This is serious matter" said his defense attorney, Alaleh Kamran.

Ya think?!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (rmw+9)

393 Trump has expressed his support for eminent domain, that is true. It's a flaw imho, but not a fatal one. I like to mention that here in MS we amended our constitution via popular vote a couple of years to prevent public takings for private development. Your state can do the same.

More than one way to skin a cat.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (gyKtp)

394 Seriously? So you are actively campaigning against Trump? To what end? You would rather have Hillary?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:36 AM (4ng05)
I don't support any of them.
I don't view Trump to be better than Hillary. They are both corrupt assholes who will do corrupt assholish things once in office. I think Hillary's corruption will be partisan and mean, but Trump's corruption will be dangerous and awful in other ways.
Moreover I think it is being far too charitable to Trump to call him this "giant wildcard" or whatever, that we can't make ANY reasonable predictions whatsoever on what he might do. His past actions give us a clue as to how he might behave in the future - just like Hillary's past actions give us a clue about how she might behave in the future.
I'm tired of the double standard frankly. They are all lying shitweasels who don't deserve anyone shilling for them.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (uAvJJ)

395 Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 09:37 AM (c6/9Q)

As is normal, Trump supporters only look at his revised statement usually given 24 hours after his original statement.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:44 AM (71st6)

396 Posted by: naturalfake at June 02, 2016 09:40 AM (HGtd0)

Your relatively civil explanation is appreciated.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:44 AM (O7MnT)

397 Are you really trying to argue that the CRDA tried to take Vera Coking's house out of the blue, without any prodding or suggestion from Trump at all?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:39 AM (uAvJJ)

Do you have any idea how planning boards work, variance boards, and master plans work? Are you that out of touch with reality in your ongoing mission to attack Trump?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:44 AM (zp+j1)

398 Eh. Squirrels drive me nuts but I wouldnt use a flame thrower on them. That's cruel.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

399 385 UCLA shooter must have something special to get this kind of secrecy

I was just thinking that this morning when I was listing to the news on the radio.

Usually by now we have the shooter's shoe size and what he ate for breakfast that day.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at June 02, 2016 09:41 AM (PFy0L)

2 to 1 odds shooter was a muzzie. Only reason for a news blackout.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:45 AM (oqhrS)

400 I don't view Trump to be better than Hillary.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (uAvJJ)

_____

Give it up dude. You're fully of shit and you know it. You will vote for Trump as will 99% of your fellow nevertrumpers.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 02, 2016 09:45 AM (0LHZx)

401
It's not the same thing, and you know it. The
anti-Trump rhetoric isn't against anything he has done politically, it
is against hypothetical injustices he MIGHT do.

It reeks of paranoia.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:42 AM (4ng05)
We all say Hillary would be terrible if in office, because she would weaponize the state against her enemies, right? What is the basis for this prediction? *Her own actions from the past*.
We don't KNOW with absolute certainty that she would do that. But we are pretty sure she would. Because that's her pattern.
Why cannot we use the same standard of judgment with Trump? Trump has shown that he will use his power and influence and connections to try to ruin people who stand in his way. Why is it just "paranoia" to say that he would continue in this same pattern of behavior if elected?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)

402 It reeks of paranoia.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:42 AM (4ng05)

And fantasy land.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:46 AM (zp+j1)

403 ignorant flag-waving sister-humping racist redneck crowd,

You say that as if there's something wrong with all that.

If she's not good enough for your family, what makes you think she's good enough for mine?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:46 AM (oqhrS)

404 Give it up dude. You're fully of shit and you know it. You will vote for Trump as will 99% of your fellow nevertrumpers.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 02, 2016 09:45 AM (0LHZx)
No I'm not. Maybe other NeverTrumpers will vote for the shitstain but they are both completely appalling to me.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)

405 >>Usually by now we have the shooter's shoe size and what he ate for breakfast that day.

Used to be that way, not so much recently. Recall the most recent shootings/wacko incidents and as with the UCLA one, details were withheld - Chatanooga recruiting station shooting, DC Navy shipyard shooting, Oregon school shooting (guy asked students if they were Christian), the CA college jihadi attempting to behead a classmate, San Bernardino (any others?).

Think this may be another one of Obama's fundamental transformations: feds crafting a narrative, hiding the attacker's personal info, before the news has the chance to report it.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 09:47 AM (NOIQH)

406 I don't view Trump to be better than Hillary.>>>

No point in arguing if this is the starting point.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 02, 2016 09:47 AM (tf9Ne)

407
2 to 1 odds shooter was a muzzie. Only reason for a news blackout.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:45 AM (oqhrS)

___

Yep. Either that or he was a College Democrats for Bernie president or something like that. They will release the info at 4:45pm this Friday and the MSM will never mention the event again.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 02, 2016 09:47 AM (0LHZx)

408 Trump has shown that he will use his power and influence and connections to try to ruin people who stand in his way. Why is it just "paranoia" to say that he would continue in this same pattern of behavior if elected?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)

yeah who?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:47 AM (zp+j1)

409 I'm tired of the double standard frankly. They are all lying shitweasels who don't deserve anyone shilling for them.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (uAvJJ)

And after around a thousand times you've made that clear, I believe you. I'm pretty certain that most everybody else believes you as well. And we are also excrutiatingly familiar with your reasons.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:47 AM (4ng05)

410 Nothing like a flash flood warning to wake you up...

Starting to get tired of all this rain.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 02, 2016 09:47 AM (rlfds)

411 No I'm not. Maybe other NeverTrumpers will vote for the shitstain but they are both completely appalling to me.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)

___

I don't believe you. If you think Trump is no better than Hillary you're either insane or....well no, there is no other option. So I doubt you're insane, which means you are sane, which means you will vote to keep Hillary out of the WH.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 02, 2016 09:48 AM (0LHZx)

412 The Clinton's are as much evil as I've ever seen on this planet.

So that's where I am.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 09:39 AM (ZnIt3)

The knowns of a Hillary Presidency:

1. Historic First card. Impeachement off the table from day one.

2. Comfortable selling state secrets to anybody for Clinton Foundation $.
3. Will appoint hardcore Leftist Supreme Court justices.
4. Already got the 3 AM call, results were inexcusable and abominable.
5. Will pursue a "pathway to citizenship", making America go solid blue.
6. Will engage in an all-out assault on the 2nd Amendment.
7. Will continue the all-out assault on normalcy.
8. Will encounter no significant opposition from Republican Congress.

I get that Trump isn't a good guy by any definition of the phrase. He is, objectively, pretty rotten. He will probably do some bad things. He'll also face stiff resistance from both parties from day one.

You've either got the unimpeachable, unstoppable evil or you've got the one that sits under the Sword of Damocles.

Choose wisely. The future depends on it.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 09:48 AM (HalrA)

413 The murderer/torturer also was busted for some sort of sex crime. That is why his gf left him. When she went back to talk to him, that is when he tortured and murdered her. They have him on suicide watch. Frankly, in these circumstances, let him kill himself.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:48 AM (iQIUe)

414 Re: UCLA Shooter

Name: Mainak Sarkar

According to a now-scrubbed blog post, he was pissed at the professor for allegedly stealing some computer code. He was not only a PhD candidate, he was in the prof's research group.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 02, 2016 09:49 AM (uiwCw)

415 You should listen to chemjeff. He's pre-law.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016 Barking For Us at June 02, 2016 09:49 AM (sl+zA)

416 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

It was dead. Her boyfriend was singeing it prior to cooking it. Left the blowtorch on when finished. Burned the apartment down and she is the leaseholder so she's the one they have to go after.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 09:49 AM (GDulk)

417 >>>>2 to 1 odds shooter was a muzzie. Only reason for a news blackout.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:45 AM (oqhrS)

___

Yep. Either that or he was a College Democrats for Bernie president
or something like that. They will release the info at 4:45pm this Friday
and the MSM will never mention the event again.
.
.
.
.I am betting on that he was extremely gay myself. That will never see the light of day.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (iONHu)

418 Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (uAvJJ)

Why are you attacking Trump?

What is your goal?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (MQEz6)

419 What's the point of twitter if someone who knew the shooter isnt going to post his name?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (iQIUe)

420 384 Well said, well done!!

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (22uju)

421 >>400
I don't view Trump to be better than Hillary.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (uAvJJ)

Huh. Really? Why not?

Posted by: General Zod at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (Bdeb0)

422 So I doubt you're insane, which means you are sane, which means you will vote to keep Hillary out of the WH.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at June 02, 2016 09:48 AM (0LHZx)
Both Hillary and Trump have a similar soul of corruption within them. Hillary's corruption only has been allowed to flourish more because she has had greater access to the levers of power than Trump has had.
And besides, any vote I cast that doesn't have the name Hillary Clinton is a vote to keep Hillary out of the WH.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (uAvJJ)

423 Oh, also:

The only other post on the UCLA shooter's blog was a pic of Bill Maher and the comment "Bill Maher still looks so cool..."

Posted by: Country Singer at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (uiwCw)

424 The Past is prologue. It is completely legitimate to predict the behavior of a Trump presidency based on how he ran his business operations and his campaign. In the same way, one can predict the behavior of a Clinton presidency based on her record.

The people who warned Obama would govern the country like a radical leftist community organizer were ultimately proven correct; those who predicted he would be moderate and a uniter (Kathleen Parker, Chris Buckley, David "Creasepants" Brooks) were proven wrong.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 09:51 AM (O7MnT)

425 >>I'm tired of the double standard frankly. They are all lying shitweasels who don't deserve anyone shilling for them.

Honest question: What's your point in antagonizing people who do have a preference, even while acknowledging they're making the call based on pragmatic reasons, not adoration for their pick?

Seems like you just want to make everyone else cynical and depressed, too?
What's the point?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 02, 2016 09:51 AM (NOIQH)

426 Re: UCLA Shooter

Name: Mainak Sarkar

According to a now-scrubbed blog post, he was pissed at the professor for allegedly stealing some computer code. He was not only a PhD candidate, he was in the prof's research group.
Posted by: Country Singer at June 02, 2016 09:49 AM (uiwCw)

well well well

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:51 AM (zOTsN)

427 Why cannot we use the same standard of judgment with Trump? Trump has shown that he will use his power and influence and connections to try to ruin people who stand in his way. Why is it just "paranoia" to say that he would continue in this same pattern of behavior if elected?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:46 AM (uAvJJ)

With the possible exception that many, if not most, of the allegations against Trump that are used as proof about how he will conduct himself in office are either misrepresentations, exaggerations, or fabrications.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:51 AM (4ng05)

428 Anyone watch The Americans? If Philip & William have their way and dont turn over the bio weapon, will Tatiana loser her promotion to station chief? It seems to hinge on that.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:52 AM (iQIUe)

429 Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:38 AM (uAvJJ)

Why are you attacking Trump?

What is your goal?
Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (MQEz6)

he has no goal, and ignores the ultimate results of his actions which are THE FAB

BUT BUT BUT he will stand on his moral standards and be a hero on his college campus

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:52 AM (zp+j1)

430 Mainak the maniac.

Nice ring to it.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 02, 2016 09:52 AM (rlfds)

431 More Trump/NeverTrump wars?!!

DON"T MAKE ME STOP THIS CAR!!

Knock it off!! How about sharing something-anything-that gives you joy?

Posted by: Annoyed parental car driver at June 02, 2016 09:52 AM (rmw+9)

432 wonder if this particular left wing nut job has any other connections

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (zOTsN)

433 Starting to get tired of all this rain.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 02, 2016 09:47 AM (rlfds)

I hear ya. Had a tornado land a mile from me last week and go on to wreck a nearby residential area. Rather glad I live on higher ground, so flooding hasn't been nearly the issue it has in other parts, but this weather's just plain nuts.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (HalrA)

434 Why are you attacking Trump?

What is your goal?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (MQEz6)
Why does anyone here attack Obama, or Hillary, or McConnell, or Ryan? What is THEIR goal?
Once again, why should Trump get the kid gloves treatment?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (uAvJJ)

435 Re: UCLA Shooter

Name: Mainak Sarkar
=================================

Is that an Indian (dot) name?

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (dFi94)

436
6. Will engage in an all-out assault on the 2nd Amendment.

6.a. (or 9.) Will engage in an all-out assault on the 1st Amendment, with special focus on overturning Citizens United.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (BK3ZS)

437 Both Hillary and Trump have a similar soul of corruption within them

And of course you have proof Trump is corrupt? A list of his felony convictions maybe?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (zp+j1)

438 Hapless CEO held hostage by sjw employees

Intel chief executive Brian Krzanich canceled a Thursday fundraiser for apparent Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump after The New York Times began inquiring about it, the paper reported.

Online tech journal Recode said the reversal came amid an outcry from within Intel's own ranks about Krzanich backing Trump while the company promotes an initiative to improve diversity within its work force.
http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2016/06/ intel_ceo_cancels_trump_fundra.html#incart_2box

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (7lVbc)

439
Name: Mainak Sarkar

According to a now-scrubbed blog post, he was pissed at the professor for allegedly stealing some computer code. He was not only a PhD candidate, he was in the prof's research group.

Tsk, tsk tsk. Those inbred, drunken, illiterate hillbillies and their guns.

/HuffPo

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 02, 2016 09:54 AM (3hIZX)

440
Mainak Sarkar, from India, loves Bill Maher, and is a Hillary supporter.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:54 AM (iQIUe)

441 Name: Mainak Sarkar

-
So the cartoon characters are now revolting?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 02, 2016 09:54 AM (Nwg0u)

442 Grammie, it's my understanding that you are correct in your assessment.

Posted by: Country Singer at June 02, 2016 09:54 AM (uiwCw)

443 DON"T MAKE ME STOP THIS CAR!!
>>>

This was when Mom was driving.

I'VE GOT A BELT!!!

Was when Dad was driving.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 02, 2016 09:54 AM (tf9Ne)

444 With the possible exception that many, if not most,
of the allegations against Trump that are used as proof about how he
will conduct himself in office are either misrepresentations,
exaggerations, or fabrications.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:51 AM (4ng05)
So what are the "misrepresentations, exaggerations, or fabrications" about the Vera Coking matter? Or his lawsuit for libel against a reporter making legitimate claims that contrasts with Trump's opinion? Or his (alleged) fraudulent behavior against his Trump University customers?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:55 AM (uAvJJ)

445

chem jeff

is Mainnak one of those foreign students you are always goin on about protecting?

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:55 AM (zOTsN)

446 Thank you Country Singer. I love being right.

Posted by: grammie winger at June 02, 2016 09:55 AM (dFi94)

447 Beyond some street flooding, same here Cato.

Been raining here (CenTex) since about 0530 this am.

Probably got about 2-4 inches thus far this morn.

Flash flood warning til 1145 this am.

Crazy indeed.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (rlfds)

448 As is normal, Trump supporters only look at his revised statement usually given 24 hours after his original statement.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:44 AM (71st6)

I would classify your statement as "needling" or ad hominem ("attacking a person instead of attacking the argument") ; oh and his initial response was a simple "leave it alone". glad to be of help!

Posted by: runner at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (c6/9Q)

449 And of course you have proof Trump is corrupt? A list of his felony convictions maybe?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (zp+j1)
How many felony convictions does Hillary have?
Once again why are you failing to hold Trump to at least as high a standard as Hillary?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (uAvJJ)

450 You should listen to chemjeff. He's pre-law.

I thought he was pre-med?

Posted by: Boon at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (eytER)

451
Not news to some, I am sure, but the wood ticks are out in force this year. Every time I have weeded our garden beds I have found at least one crawling on me afterward.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (BK3ZS)

452 This guy must jerk off to Vera Coking?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (zp+j1)

453 Remember: make sure to note that any criminal you mention is a Hillary Clinton supporter.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (iQIUe)

454

Hillary supporter murders professor

did her policies drive him to do it?

does her tone, claiming republicans are her only enemies, encourage this sort of unhinged mayhem

news at 11

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (zOTsN)

455 We all say Hillary would be terrible if in office, because she would weaponize the state against her enemies, right? What is the basis for this prediction? *Her own actions from the past*.
We don't KNOW with absolute certainty that she would do that.

WE DO KNOW SHE WILL SELL STATE SECRETS.

WE DO KNOW SHE WON'T SAVE AMBASSADORS AND MILITARY FROM ATTACK.

WE DO KNOW SHE'LL STEAL $6 BILLION IN CASH.

Those are already provens.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 09:57 AM (oqhrS)

456 Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 02, 2016 09:54 AM (tf9Ne)

I'm transitioning. ;^) I'm mom. If people keep this up I will become dad and- it won't and I won't-be pretty..

Posted by: Annoyed parental car driver at June 02, 2016 09:57 AM (rmw+9)

457 I know how Trump supporters feel. During Romney's run 90% of the blog comments were about bashing Romney but closing with ' I guess I will hold my nose and vote for him' . Mostly by the same commenters now asking that Trump criticism stop because they 'get it, enough already' .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:57 AM (71st6)

458 Here's a link to the Google cache of the shooter's blog (remove spaces, of course; sorry, I can't use tinyurl or other shorteners at the office):

https://webcache.googleuser content.com/search? q=cache:6KhzeD1SduMJ: https://longdarktunnelblog. wordpress.com/ +&cd=1&hl=en& ct=clnk&gl=us

Posted by: Country Singer at June 02, 2016 09:58 AM (uiwCw)

459 So what are the "misrepresentations, exaggerations, or fabrications" about the Vera Coking matter? Or his lawsuit for libel against a reporter making legitimate claims that contrasts with Trump's opinion? Or his (alleged) fraudulent behavior against his Trump University customers?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:55 AM (uAvJJ)

That argument was previously owned by Nevergiveup. I shouldn't have to reargue it.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:58 AM (4ng05)

460 Re: UCLA Shooter

Name: Mainak Sarkar

He's a Mainak, Mainak, that's for sure!

Posted by: josephistan at June 02, 2016 09:59 AM (7HtZB)

461 is Mainnak one of those foreign students you are always goin on about protecting?

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 09:55 AM (zOTsN)
Oh for heaven's sake. Obviously not.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:59 AM (uAvJJ)

462 Okay, I admit it. I took a dive. Just couldn't see myself as President and knew, deep in my heart, Barry would drive the progressive train much better than I could.

Posted by: Shitt Romney at June 02, 2016 09:59 AM (22uju)

463 That argument was previously owned by Nevergiveup. I shouldn't have to reargue it.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 09:58 AM (4ng05)
NGU wants us to believe that the Atlantic City local government decided all on its own to evict Vera Coking without any input or prodding from Trump. This claim strains credulity.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:59 AM (uAvJJ)

464 More info on shooter. He's apparently from Hong Kong. There are more questions than answers.

http://tinyurl.com/jdg2kq3

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 02, 2016 09:59 AM (Nwg0u)

465 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (BK3ZS)

Ugh. One of the few things I hated about our house n Missouri. The ticks came all the way up onto the back patio which gave me the shivers thinking about how many were in the lawn.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (GDulk)

466 Here's where I'm at. EVEN IF the nevertrumpers are right and Trump turns out to be a cronyist who uses the DC machine to enrich himself more and uses the IRS to punish his enemies (as if that bunch of leftists would do it) etc etc. It would still be a good thing overall because it would punish the Left, finally karma, and push us into open civil war which we might as well get over with.

For the record I don't think that's what he'll do.
Just as I predicted that Obama would be worse than people hope, I predict that Trump will be better than people fear.

Posted by: @votermom at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (7lVbc)

467

have a sense of humor Chem jeff

I just rememer you always bringing up your foreign students when the immigration issue comes up

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (zOTsN)

468 434 Why are you attacking Trump?

What is your goal?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (MQEz6)
Why does anyone here attack Obama, or Hillary, or McConnell, or Ryan? What is THEIR goal?
Once again, why should Trump get the kid gloves treatment?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:53 AM (uAvJJ)

The goal in attacking Hillary and Obama and Ryan and McConnell is to defeat them and stop them from gaining ground.

What is your goal in attacking Trump?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (MQEz6)

469 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (oqhrS)

470 I know how Trump supporters feel. During Romney's run 90% of the blog comments were about bashing Romney but closing with ' I guess I will hold my nose and vote for him' . Mostly by the same commenters now asking that Trump criticism stop because they 'get it, enough already' .

Makes me wonder how the comments would look today if Jeb! had won. I'd still be #NeverJeb, and would probably be taking grief for it.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (O7MnT)

471 I know how Trump supporters feel. During Romney's run 90% of the blog comments were about bashing Romney but closing with ' I guess I will hold my nose and vote for him' . Mostly by the same commenters now asking that Trump criticism stop because they 'get it, enough already' .
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:57 AM (71st6)

I actually don't remember it playing out like that at all. Were people against Romney in the primaries? Yep. Once he won, was every goddamned thread devoted to trashing him? Nah. No ongoing active campaigning against him. He didn't become evil incarnate.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (4ng05)

472 Chinese agent kills UCLA professor over code

also

Hillary supporter

news at 11

Posted by: ThunderB at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (zOTsN)

473 I don't view Trump to be better than Hillary."

Interesting.

Bizarre, but interesting.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (C9pBZ)

474 Ex gf emailed me to tell me she got 7 inches last night.

Of rain.

Of course I replied with snark.

This place is carrying over into real life. lol

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (JO9+V)

475
Or his lawsuit for libel against a reporter making legitimate claims that contrasts with Trump's opinion?

Frankly, that's one of the things that makes me more supportive of Trump. Considering the plague of would be Woodwards and Bernsteins, the in-kind contributions the MFM makes to the Democrat party, their obvious treason and their blatant distorting of news, those pencil-pushing motherfuckers ought to be the targets of libel suits and RICO 24/7/365, regardless of whether they're in the right or not.

Trump would do this country a great service if he broke the back of the media.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (X6fMO)

476 The goal in attacking Hillary and Obama and Ryan and McConnell is to defeat them and stop them from gaining ground.

What is your goal in attacking Trump?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (MQEz6)
Same goal.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (uAvJJ)

477
457 I know how Trump supporters feel. During Romney's run 90% of the blog comments were about bashing Romney but closing with ' I guess I will hold my nose and vote for him' . Mostly by the same commenters now asking that Trump criticism stop because they 'get it, enough already' .
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:57 AM (71st6)

I have no problem with folks criticizing Trump.

I only ask they tell me why they are doing it.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:03 AM (MQEz6)

478 Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:59 AM (uAvJJ)

But it's only obvious because he killed someone. Would he have been 2 days ago?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 02, 2016 10:03 AM (GDulk)

479 How many felony convictions does Hillary have?
Once again why are you failing to hold Trump to at least as high a standard as Hillary?
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:56 AM (uAvJJ)

Hold him to what ever standards you want but legitimate ones but don't make rediculous claims about eminent domain and other absurd claims

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 10:04 AM (zp+j1)

480
476 The goal in attacking Hillary and Obama and Ryan and McConnell is to defeat them and stop them from gaining ground.

What is your goal in attacking Trump?

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:00 AM (MQEz6)
Same goal.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (uAvJJ)

Noted.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:04 AM (MQEz6)

481 NGU wants us to believe that the Atlantic City local government decided all on its own to evict Vera Coking without any input or prodding from Trump. This claim strains credulity.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:59 AM (uAvJJ)

NO your completely ignorant on eminent domain.. but keep digging.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 10:05 AM (zp+j1)

482 >>>>>
I know how Trump supporters feel. During Romney's run 90% of the blog
comments were about bashing Romney but closing with ' I guess I will
hold my nose and vote for him' . Mostly by the same commenters now
asking that Trump criticism stop because they 'get it, enough already' .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 09:57 AM (71st6)

I actually don't remember it playing out like that at all. Were
people against Romney in the primaries? Yep. Once he won, was every
goddamned thread devoted to trashing him? Nah. No ongoing active
campaigning against him. He didn't become evil incarnate.
.
.
.
.
.That's pretty much the way I remember it also. There most certainly wasn't an active daily attempt to keep trashing him at this time in the Primary cycle, at least not on this blog.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 02, 2016 10:05 AM (iONHu)

483 Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:04 AM (MQEz6)

I don't want any of them to win or to have power over my life.

You, as a rather anarchist type, should appreciate this.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:05 AM (uAvJJ)

484 NO your completely ignorant on eminent domain.. but keep digging.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 10:05 AM (zp+j1)
Then please explain how the CRDA got the idea to evict Vera Coking.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:06 AM (uAvJJ)

485
483 Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:04 AM (MQEz6)

I don't want any of them to win or to have power over my life.

You, as a rather anarchist type, should appreciate this.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:05 AM (uAvJJ)

That's nice.

One of them will win.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:06 AM (MQEz6)

486 Why I'm a Trump trumpeter:

Donald Trump, lashing back at Barack Obama after the president waded forcefully into the presidential campaign, on Wednesday said Obama "doesn't have a clue" and threatened to turn his attacks on him in retaliation.

"This is a president who doesn't have a clue, Trump told supporters in Sacramento. "If he campaigns, that means I'm allowed to hit him, just like I hit Bill Clinton."

Trump's remarks followed an appearance by Obama in Elkhart, Ind., on Wednesday, where the president warned against the Republican Party's economic policies and said the GOP was misleading Americans on the condition of the economy.

Rallying supporters at a hangar at Sacramento International Jet Center, Trump said foreign leaders view Obama as a "total lightweight," and he said Obama should not involve himself in the campaign.

He shouldn't campaign," Trump said. "He should go out and do the job that he's supposed to be doing."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 02, 2016 10:07 AM (Nwg0u)

487 >>I actually don't remember it playing out like that at all. Were people against Romney in the primaries? Yep. Once he won, was every goddamned thread devoted to trashing him? Nah. No ongoing active campaigning against him. He didn't become evil incarnate.

I do. Vividly. The fever only really broke after the first debate when Romney kicked Obama's ass. That was in the fall.

We have some time to go.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 02, 2016 10:07 AM (/tuJf)

488
Same goal.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (uAvJJ)

Noted.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:04 AM (MQEz6)

So. Your goal is that everybody loses. Sounds rational. To somebody, I'm nearly certain.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 10:07 AM (4ng05)

489 So. Your goal is that everybody loses. Sounds rational. To somebody, I'm nearly certain.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 10:07 AM (4ng05)
It is to hold everyone's feet to the fire. I am not interested in shilling for anyone whether that person has a D or an R behind their names.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:08 AM (uAvJJ)

490 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 02, 2016 10:02 AM (X6fMO)

You know the Press loves a Trump candidacy right? They love to bait him and love to have something to write about that makes 'conservatism' appear in the worst light. Rhetorically you may have some satisfaction from Trump but they will just double down instead of crawling down a hole.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:08 AM (71st6)

491
421 >>400
I don't view Trump to be better than Hillary.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 09:43 AM (uAvJJ)

Huh. Really? Why not?

Posted by: General Zod at June 02, 2016 09:50 AM (Bdeb0)

He's pro amnesty.... so Trump is the Devil....

Posted by: Don Q... at June 02, 2016 10:09 AM (qf6WZ)

492 NGU wants us to believe that the Atlantic City local government decided all on its own to evict Vera Coking without any input or prodding from Trump. This claim strains credulity.Posted by: chemjeff

Did you ever see Atlantic City pre-casino? Drive down the street and see nothing but hookers, pimps, and drug dealers? I did.

You really think the Atlantic City government really wanted that? Or, the more reasonable explanation, they wished to transform the town and showed a willingness to work with developers to achieve that goal?

Serious question -- how old are you? I'm picking up a mid-20's vibe based on your lack of knowledge.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 10:09 AM (ZnIt3)

493 Romney was different than Trump. People were rightfully critical of his tepid campaigning style and his record as Governor of Massachusetts, especially Romneycare, were easy to criticize. But I don't think anyone doubted that he was a fundamentally decent man, or that his grasp of economics was far superior to Obama's. And I don't think you ever saw Romney attack other Republicans. He was rather a different animal.

Posted by: V the K at June 02, 2016 10:10 AM (O7MnT)

494
489 So. Your goal is that everybody loses. Sounds rational. To somebody, I'm nearly certain.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at June 02, 2016 10:07 AM (4ng05)
It is to hold everyone's feet to the fire. I am not interested in shilling for anyone whether that person has a D or an R behind their names.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:08 AM (uAvJJ)

You already told us what your goal is.

Posted by: eman at June 02, 2016 10:10 AM (MQEz6)

495
On that page, Sarkar is said to have been studying at UCLA since 2006.

Ten years working toward a Ph.D. in a STEM field is an inordinately long time. Most Ph.D. degrees in STEM are achieved between three and five years.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 10:10 AM (BK3ZS)

496 Then please explain how the CRDA got the idea to evict Vera Coking.
Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:06 AM (uAvJJ)

.Of course he knew. or his people did.You can't really be this ignorant of how local government works are you? Have you ever ventured off a college campus into the real world? Hope life is dandy in your ivory tower

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 02, 2016 10:12 AM (zp+j1)

497 they wished to transform the town and showed a willingness to work with developers to achieve that goal?

That is the same type of cronyism that got us crap like Obama's stimulus, like a great deal of government spending, where it's just the connected class getting favors for themselves by bending government to their will.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:14 AM (uAvJJ)

498
Ten years working toward a Ph.D. in a STEM field
is an inordinately long time. Most Ph.D. degrees in STEM are achieved
between three and five years.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 02, 2016 10:10 AM (BK3ZS)
Many people stay at the same institution for their bachelor's degree and their graduate degree(s), so 10 years might be the sum total of his entire time studying there, not just for a Ph.D.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:15 AM (uAvJJ)

499 @chemjeff

Once again why are you failing to hold Trump to at least as high a standard as Hillary?

There was the cocaine-money laundering hijinks back in Hillary's Rosewater days and the rank corruption of the whole Arkansas crew. But yeah... Hill and Bill are rightous People.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at June 02, 2016 10:18 AM (E8UjU)

500
I supported Guillianni and when he dropped out, Romney. I voted for Romney in the primaries and in the election. This place as not a hot bed of anti Romney fever.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:18 AM (iQIUe)

501 That is the same type of cronyism that got us crap like Obama's stimulus, like a great deal of government spending, where it's just the connected class getting favors for themselves by bending government to their will.Posted by: chemjeff

Pure, unadulterated bullshit. A community redevelopment authority are hardly a good-old -boy network. I've personally worked with a local board to both fight for and against projects. There's no rubber stamp when developers come calling.

Except in your childish view.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 10:19 AM (ZnIt3)

502 Trump offered money for her house and she refused . Her house wasn't a drug den or a blight on the city. Next thing you know the city is envoking eminent domain. Who is being naive?

Trump also has said he totally agreed with the Kelo decision . A decision that some here sarcastically referred to ' As also not the hill to die on' . Now it's no big deal .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:19 AM (71st6)

503 He's pro amnesty.... so Trump is the Devil....
Posted by: Don Q... at June 02, 2016 10:09 AM (qf6WZ)

==========

He da Debil!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:19 AM (iQIUe)

504 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:18 AM (iQIUe)

Again , the archives are there to review.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:21 AM (71st6)

505 Again , the archives are there to review.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at June 02, 2016 10:21 AM (71st6)
=============
You're full of crap. I was here. You go review them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at June 02, 2016 10:23 AM (iQIUe)

506 Trump offered her ten times accessed value. Do you know what you call someone who refuses that sort of offer? Brain addled.

Her heirs finally sold for half accessed value, iirc.

Yeah I can see a local government agency stepping in, in a situation like that. At least calling social services and getting a mental health evaluation.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 10:27 AM (ZnIt3)

507
Pure, unadulterated bullshit. A community
redevelopment authority are hardly a good-old -boy network. I've
personally worked with a local board to both fight for and against
projects. There's no rubber stamp when developers come calling.

Except in your childish view.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 10:19 AM (ZnIt3)
Oh I see, so the CRDA decided to invoke eminent domain on a non-blighted, non-troublesome piece of property strictly on the merits, and not because Trump, a local billionaire(?) bigshot, wanted it?
What flavor of crack are you smoking? Are you that dense?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:28 AM (uAvJJ)

508 Trump offered her ten times accessed value. Do you know what you call someone who refuses that sort of offer? Brain addled.

And now you're doing the typical Trump shilling by inverting the burden of proof.

Vera Coking didn't have to justify why she didn't sell. The burden of proof is on Trump and his posse to justify why they thought it was right to seize her house using the force of the government to do so.

Calling her "brain addled" and crazy and stupid is just piling on the victim.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:30 AM (uAvJJ)

509 Sometimes I feel the eminent domain argument gets brought up too often. It reflects very poorly on Trump, but there are so many other things to criticize about the man.

But then every time it gets brought up, Trump fans try to defend the indefensible rather then simply acknowledging that they have already factored it into their decision to vote for him.

Posted by: person at June 02, 2016 10:32 AM (mFkVC)

510 And if Hillary Clinton had done the same thing - run to the local development board to try to get a non-blighted, non-troublesome piece of property (that just so happened to be adjacent to the Clinton Foundation offices) evicted so the Clintons could build a parking garage for the Foundation offices, would ANYONE here have any problems or qualms whatsoever in calling that out as an abuse of power?

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:33 AM (uAvJJ)

511 But then every time it gets brought up, Trump fans
try to defend the indefensible rather then simply acknowledging that
they have already factored it into their decision to vote for him.

Posted by: person at June 02, 2016 10:32 AM (mFkVC)
Exactly. It speaks very poorly of Trump's fans when they try to pile on Vera Coking as some sort of crazy bitch, or try to defend his abuse of power.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2016 10:34 AM (uAvJJ)

512 No sense wrestling with a pig. All you get is dirty and the pig enjoys it.

I'd still like to know how young you are.

Posted by: Lice Wags at June 02, 2016 10:36 AM (ZnIt3)

513 https://longdarktunnelblog.wordpress.com/

Mainak Sarkar's blog...

Posted by: sven10077 at June 02, 2016 10:37 AM (g8Hfr)

514 I went through July 2012 as well, and this supposed incessant daily anti-Romney drumbeat of DrewM's is nowhere to be found.

History as recalled by JackStraw is found wanting, yet again.

What do you call a pattern of falsehood?

Posted by: situation normal at June 02, 2016 10:46 AM (2WoCi)

515 So, totally off-I'm helping this church transition to a new pastor and we have to read and discuss a training manual not entirely relevant because it's not a normal transition. I'm an interim.

So you're supposed to have a reception for your new pastor, which will be no problem for them (They already had experience with the new guy being there and preaching several times and they like him. That's great@,. ), but I'm thinking of some of the little churches I served. One couldn't do a reception because we had to get in the car and I had to drive 15 minutes to the next church. I understand they couldn't do anything. A woman at the second church said, "We normally have coffee hour the second Sunday of the month. "

So no reception-no nothing. We stopped at the truck stop and got a cup of coffee on the hour drive home.

Now it just makes me laugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 02, 2016 11:59 AM (rmw+9)

516 I like it when the snark here is aimed at the other side, at each other, not so much.

Posted by: jazzuscounty at June 02, 2016 04:58 PM (iRHb1)

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