Parents of Two Children Killed in Paris Attacks of 13 November: We're Not Paying Our Taxes to a Government That Pays for the Upkeep of our Children's Killers, and We Demand the Reestablishment of the Death Penalty

If you want a corporation to change its behavior, you hit it at its bottom line.

The corporations known as governments are in the business of extracting taxes from people. So.

Attacks of 13 November: Some Victims' Parents Refuse to Pay Their Taxes

by Anne Jouan

Some parents who lost their children in the terrorist attacks of 13 November have addressed a letter to the president of the Republic last week. They rail against the payment of the costs of lawyers for the presumed terrorists by the [taxpayers].

Wrath. How to survive after the death of a child? Worse, of two children? Wrath is necessary, Aristotle tells us: "One cannot win anything without it, if it doesn't fill the soul, if it doesn't warm the heart: it must then serve us, not as a master, but as a soldier."

Driven by this struggle, the parents of two children murdered on 13 November have addressed a letter to the president of the Republic of which Le Figaro has gotten a copy. To Francis Hollande, they explain that if their children had lost their life, it was due to their "jihadist friends." Therefore, they refuse henceforth to pay their taxes "which serve to defend the killers of our children through the intermediary of the funds guaranteed to hire their lawyers, and for their upkeep as well as that of their ilk on French soil, our Fatherland!"

They have so advised their tax collection center and placed their money in an blocked account.

"You have brought them to their deaths"

These parents, who do not wish to appear publicly, deplore "such subsidized criminals, who should never have been free and killing in the middle of the street at their whim!" Finally, according to them, their children "are dead, victims of your indulgence and interference," they write to Francois Hollande.

In sum, it's the reestablishment of the death penalty which is demanded as the crux of this missive. And this wish to return to the law voted on in 1981 is shared by the parents of another french victim of an attack perpetrated by a foreigner. Just the same as a father of two children who lost his wife at Bataclan.

The open letter finishes with the "shame" of being led by Francois Hollande. "Our children were voting for you, we were telling them: This man will bring you to a bad end! We didn't believe it would be so literally! You have led them to their death," it reads at its end.


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Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 07:20 PM (1ijHg)

2 That's more like it.

Posted by: iforgot at May 23, 2016 07:20 PM (pC96u)

3 They will bring back the Guillotine, for tax protesters

Posted by: Tmitsss at May 23, 2016 07:21 PM (sUvQQ)

4 I'd love to see this become a mass movement. Escrow and object.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 07:21 PM (/m8T6)

5 Shit. It's been years. It's always nice to know that you still have it, Hey Skip, Am I right?


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 07:21 PM (1ijHg)

6
Here in the USA also the taxpayers are directly subsidizing terrorists and their families.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:21 PM (/7JDl)

7 Death penalty? It would be a great first step if someone could be sentenced to more than 25 years in prison.

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:22 PM (7qAYi)

8 Uh-oh...looks like anti Muslim backlash to me.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 23, 2016 07:22 PM (YFFpo)

9 Good on them! Probably gonna be a little tough to follow through on that though. 'Specially in France.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 23, 2016 07:22 PM (QDVFm)

10 I cannot wait for Target to pay the family of the kid that was stabbed for failing to provide security.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 07:23 PM (1ijHg)

11
Kate Steinly's parents should be able to sue the mayor, the governor of California, obama, and everyone in the Dept of Homeland Security.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:23 PM (/7JDl)

12 I think there are greater and greater mass of people who are simply not going to be putting up with this bullshit from the elites any longer.

The worm is turning.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 23, 2016 07:23 PM (eMMFL)

13 Prayers and good luck to the parents.

Posted by: @votermom at May 23, 2016 07:23 PM (7lVbc)

14 Target stock keeps dropping

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (6Ll1u)

15 3 They will bring back the Guillotine, for tax protesters
Posted by: Tmitsss at May 23, 2016 07:21 PM (sUvQQ)

Fun fact - the last person executed by guillotine was a muslim, Hamida Djandoubi, in 1977

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)

16 Described as right-wing nationalists, no doubt.

Posted by: huerfano at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (NSb9d)

17
Politicians, judges, and parole boards would think a lot harder if they could be sued for stuff like this.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (/7JDl)

18 wake up world

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 07:25 PM (0O7c5)

19
Ace: are you calling for a mass tax revolt? I've got no problem with that. But how do you get the taxpayers to all "flush the toilet at the same time" so to speak?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:26 PM (p4UlV)

20 Baring violence, I presume the only thing that will change the course of the current transnational socialist elite is a general taxpayer strike.

The question is how to unite people in doing so, considering the state will destroy any small group of people who do so.

It will be interesting to see what the French government does about this...though frankly as they intentionally brought this mess to the French people (gotta break a few eggs...) it seems it will likely be something bad...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 23, 2016 07:26 PM (pibXr)

21
Remember when people were leaving their country's flag and flowers and the muzzie assholes were ripping the Israeli flag off?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (iQIUe)

22 The open letter finishes with the "shame" of being led by Francois
Hollande. "Our children were voting for you, we were telling them: This
man will bring you to a bad end! We didn't believe it would be so
literally! You have led them to their death," it reads at its end.




Children vote in France?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (JO9+V)

23 Ace: are you calling for a mass tax revolt? I've got no problem with that. But how do you get the taxpayers to all "flush the toilet at the same time" so to speak?




How do you do it when the majority of taxes are withheld via your employer?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (geVJ9)

24 Ben! Set printing presses on "full!" We must crush this puny rebellion!

Posted by: Vanceone at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (IQzhs)

25 About damn time....death to all terrorists and those who support them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 23, 2016 07:28 PM (ej1L0)

26 One more thing on Terry McAuliffe. Allah is joking that when McAuliffe issued his edict restoring the right to vote to felons, he was just planning ahead and making sure he'd still be able to vote for the Hellbitch.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 07:28 PM (/m8T6)

27 15 Fun fact - the last person executed by guillotine was a muslim, Hamida Djandoubi, in 1977
Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)


One of the Doobie Bros.?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:28 PM (p4UlV)

28 When it comes to criticizing the muslim invasion of Europe, the mimes probably have the safest strategy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 07:28 PM (8ZskC)

29 Tax revolt. Sounds good.

Here, Loretta Lynch et al would launch a DoJ attack.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2016 07:29 PM (9mTYi)

30 This seems like a good approach. Its one we all should be doing here:

Return to the constitution if you want your taxes, bitch.

Posted by: Bill Klin-Ton at May 23, 2016 07:29 PM (39g3+)

31 15 Fun fact - the last person executed by guillotine was a muslim, Hamida Djandoubi, in 1977

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)





One of the Doobie Bros.?



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:28 PM (p4UlV)


No. A relation to Shiek Yerbouti.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 23, 2016 07:29 PM (JO9+V)

32 Baring violence
Nude photos of Yoko Ono?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 23, 2016 07:29 PM (PLnZs)

33 Consent of the governed. It's a thing.

Posted by: Alexthechick at May 23, 2016 07:29 PM (dEQP3)

34 Well that's putting your money where their mouth is.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:29 PM (3wHFl)

35 Pfft, good luck.

I doubt France (or anyone else) has a tax enforcer as horrifying as the IRS, but I've got to imagine this will end up with them being homeless and probably imprisoned. Cuz that's just how governments roll.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:29 PM (AkOaV)

36 28 When it comes to criticizing the muslim invasion of Europe, the mimes probably have the safest strategy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 07:28 PM (8ZskC)

" /\ "

- - Marcel Marceau

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:30 PM (p4UlV)

37 On or about 1 October 2016, machinery will kick in to repeal the 22d amendment. Fast tracked across 50 states. McConnell, McCain etc will be on board. It will be the only thing that can save the Republic, you see, after the summer's horrors and violence. Things would break apart entirely without BHO. Count on it.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 07:31 PM (OjM0b)

38 If only one...nothing.
But now get a million more to sign on, NOW you got something.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2016 07:31 PM (r65B3)

39 Wonder where Jesse Hughes comes down on this?

Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:31 PM (48QDY)

40 32 andycanuck we're lucky Maet isn't back yet with that comment

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:31 PM (3wHFl)

41 Yay for Grandpa Jimbo for getting First!

Posted by: L, Elle at May 23, 2016 07:31 PM (6IPEM)

42 How do you do it when the majority of taxes are withheld via your employer?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (geVJ9)

****

You suddenly develop 15 exemptions.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (KcI5m)

43 An act of massive civil disobedience would be a great start.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (r65B3)

44 How do you do it when the majority of taxes are withheld via your employer?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (geVJ9)

claim 99 dependents on your withholding, then don't pay up at the end of the year would probably work.

Of course, FICA would be taken out regardless.

Oh, but then the government would put liens on all of your possessions, dock your paycheck, attach onerous fees and usurious interest to your tax bill, and send a SWAT team after you, who will probably shoot your dog and may or may not shoot you.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (AkOaV)

45 Ace is en fuego this evening!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (mnmg8)

46 Tax revolt? Alright! Let's get organized - I'm sure the NSA isn't data mining for that.

Or maybe we can set up a facebook group?

Shit.

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (7qAYi)

47
There is no accountability.

obama, Democrats and Republicans in Washington have decided it's okay to allow thousands of Syrians (and people claiming to be Syrian refugees) into the USA.

When, not if, a few of these people do evil, we citizen-victims will not be able to hold obama and the other politicians accountable. That isn't right.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (/7JDl)

48 Pitchfork futures have taken an unexplained hike.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (8ZskC)

49 43 An act of massive civil disobedience would be a great start.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (r65B3)


There was an anti-littering public service campaign back in the early 70s here in Hymietown. The slogan was "Starve a Rat Today."

I think that headline could easily be brought out of retirement and used against the Leviathan.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:33 PM (p4UlV)

50 How do you say "The Balls on That Guy!" in French?

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:33 PM (aoFFB)

51 How do you do it when the majority of taxes are withheld via your employer?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 07:27 PM (geVJ9)

Declare whatever amount in losses you need to get your money back? Not that hard to cheat on you taxes - ask any Democrat.

Posted by: crrr6 (hotair refugee) at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (r23qW)

52 You suddenly develop 15 exemptions.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (KcI5m)

Si.

Posted by: Arturo Gomez at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (48QDY)

53
Elections every few years is not really accountability, either. I'm talking accountability like prison time and fines.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (/7JDl)

54 Posted by: occam's brassiere

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (4f7zr)

55 When, not if, a few of these people do evil, we citizen-victims will not be able to hold obama and the other politicians accountable. That isn't right.
***
No, but it is the plan.

The odd thing is that they've gotten 52% or so of the populace to go along with it...by bribing them with (often) their own money.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (pibXr)

56 A tax revolt in France might be viable. How much of their revenue is from VAT? You can't totally stop spending, but you can cut way back.

Posted by: fluffy at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (2hcmo)

57 Gramp Jumbo you have to do it once in awhile, just to show them you still care.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:34 PM (3wHFl)

58 I grew up in the 70s, and I always held that the US kept the death penalty because Americans basically did not trust their gov. The post war period had a lot of liberal experimentation with crime and rehabilitation. The Willie Horton add hit a nerve because it was so true, and the majority just did not trust that someone convicted and deemed unfit for society would stay convicted.

That distrust is a good thing.

This was often a topic of conversation in grad school with the European students. They thought Americans were barbaric, but I thought they were fools.

In Europe, they trust their gov. more, but also, I think they are more used to living under capricious and adversarial rulers, so they make believe they are more civilised but in reality they are less in control.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 23, 2016 07:35 PM (LWu6U)

59 This is how you get to governments. Everyone in the US should be doing this its our only leverage. If every Republican refused to pay taxes until they, say, eliminated the Arts department... imagine what would happen.

Posted by: Bill Klin-Ton at May 23, 2016 07:35 PM (39g3+)

60 >>One of the Doobie Bros.?


"What Were OnceVices Are Now Haram" was their best record.

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:35 PM (aoFFB)

61 They should not be executed. This happened when they were younger.

Posted by: The Gentle Jihadi at May 23, 2016 07:35 PM (Tyii7)

62 50 How do you say "The Balls on That Guy!" in French?
Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:33 PM (aoFFB)


Les boules sur c'est imbecile!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:35 PM (p4UlV)

63 Elections every few years is not really accountability, either. I'm talking accountability like prison time and fines.
***
Traditionally when a political or military leader sneaks in an enemy army seeking to ravage the country the punishment isn't just prison time...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 23, 2016 07:35 PM (pibXr)

64 That picture of Clinton and the cigar really pisses me off!! How could he waste a good cigar on that white trash bimbo !!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (3K613)

65 Problem is, the government takes this kind of thing really seriously. They know if it catches on, they're screwed. They have to stamp down on it fast and hard. See: Ruby Ridge, Waco.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (39g3+)

66 Damn.
I need to hire an editor.

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (aoFFB)

67 nooooooooo !!! we can't withhold taxes because then the gov't will shut down!!!!!! and the old people won't get their social security checks and the poor people won't get their benefits and the gov't workers won't get paid!!!!!! noooooooooooooooo that will make the republicans lose every election for ever......../

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (0O7c5)

68 Stupid table's self correct,

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (3wHFl)

69 I think you're not allowed by law to post Ono nudes in Japan so we're safe for now, Skip.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (PLnZs)

70 60 >>One of the Doobie Bros.?


"What Were OnceVices Are Now Haram" was their best record.
Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:35 PM (aoFFB)


Takin' It to the Sheiks.
Listen to the Music (and we keeeeel you!).

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (p4UlV)

71 Yes, a tax revolt sounds like an idea whose time has come. That, along with an Article V convention, are probably our last non-violent courses of action.

Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (sdi6R)

72 >>>I doubt France (or anyone else) has a tax enforcer as horrifying as the IRS, but I've got to imagine this will end up with them being homeless and probably imprisoned. Cuz that's just how governments roll.


True, for the simple reason that work-a-day citizens are easier to roll than criminals and terrorists.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 23, 2016 07:37 PM (ppaKI)

73
When it comes to criticizing the muslim invasion of Europe, the mimes probably have the safest strategy.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


Against the wind.

Posted by: Bob Seger at May 23, 2016 07:37 PM (k4M/B)

74 Nice!


The parents realize they have political capital and are willing to spend it.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 23, 2016 07:37 PM (Wckf4)

75 Damn.

I need to hire an editor.

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (aoFFB)


We do freelance too!

Posted by: HuffPo Editors at May 23, 2016 07:37 PM (JO9+V)

76 >> I think you're not allowed by law to post Ono nudes in Japan so we're safe for now, Skip.


I think you just have to Pixelate the Penises.
Shintoism is weird like that. You shame your ancestors if you don't.

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:37 PM (aoFFB)

77 The NSA isn't monitoring the US Mail, just so you all know.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:38 PM (39g3+)

78 74 Nice! The parents realize they have political capital and are willing to spend it.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at May 23, 2016 07:37 PM (Wckf4)

Marine LePen and the NF can profit from this politically. And justifiably so.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:38 PM (p4UlV)

79 77 The NSA isn't monitoring the US Mail, just so you all know.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:38 PM (39g3+)

USPS photographs the outside of every package sent in the country, so...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:38 PM (AkOaV)

80 I suppose if you do this you have to be willing to go Galt, right
I don;t see how one could do this halfway, but I applaud the parents nonetheless.

Kinda related: president of Americans for Tax Reform president is Grover Norquist, who married a Muslim and is rumored to have converted to Islam. So...wouldn't be looking to that org to support anything like this here.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2016 07:39 PM (NOIQH)

81 Wow. Powerful. I can't imagine what I'd do if a monster killed not just one but 2 of my kids. They'd need a bunch of people to hold me back from going medieval on someone.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 07:39 PM (1PWlL)

82 Always wondered why some Japanese pictures were blurred out.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:39 PM (3wHFl)

83 This post is too optimistic.

What I expect --
France to reinstate death penalty for tax offenders.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 23, 2016 07:40 PM (LWu6U)

84 77 The NSA isn't monitoring the US Mail, just so you all know.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:38 PM (39g3+)


The USPS isn't even monitoring it. Or delivering it, for that matter.

Where's Tevye Kasich?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:40 PM (p4UlV)

85 I also like the idea of states collecting federal taxes directly, then disbursing them to the feds as they see fit. What's that, you're going to withhold your funds to make us let men into the lady's room? OK here's some of your taxes, minus what you withheld.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:40 PM (39g3+)

86 You like my sauce, no?

Posted by: Francois Hollande at May 23, 2016 07:40 PM (EsA7u)

87 Takin' It to the Sheiks.
Listen to the Music (and we keeeeel you!).
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:36 PM (p4UlV)

Jesus is Just Alright With Me (But His Followers Will Be Burned Alive)

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (7qAYi)

88 86 You like my sauce, no?
Posted by: Francois Hollande at May 23, 2016 07:40 PM (EsA7u)


Feel the Bernaise!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (p4UlV)

89 They are not meekly accepting the destruction of their children due to the policies of the government they support with their taxes? But Monsieur Hollande used some pretty strong language when it occurred!


Maybe they're not as suicidal a society as previously shown. Maybe there's a spark of life among the ashes. Not like in Israel, but there nevertheless.

Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (v9E/c)

90 J.K. - but how do you starve a rat with arrest and seizure powers?

Solzhenitsyn - discussed here this weekend - was right, the people of the USSR could have fought back collectively, but were intimidated individually.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (imC+1)

91 USPS photographs the outside of every package sent in the country

*shrug* they don't photograph letters. And even it they did, they just have... a picture of an envelope.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (39g3+)

92 How do you do it when the majority of taxes are withheld via your employer?


You tell the employer you have 12 kids and they will withhold nothing. Seriously.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (1PWlL)

93 Every time the Feds say they will withhold funds unless you do X the state should re3ply with the we will withold fed tax payments

Posted by: Dave Willmore at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (D7R4y)

94 Always wondered why some Japanese pictures were blurred out.
Yes, Skip. It's called "Yoko's Law".

Posted by: andycanuck at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (PLnZs)

95 22

Children vote in France?

Count, if they attended an Eagles of Death Metal concert, they were probably grown children, and their parents are middle-aged.

Posted by: Pete in TX at May 23, 2016 07:42 PM (2RBkF)

96 fluffy: "How much of their revenue is from VAT? You can't totally stop spending, but you can cut way back."

Effective immediately, Executive Order 98,347 states that "The United States Federal Reserve and Treasury Shall print and gift as many U.S. Dollars for the nation of France to offset any losses due to citizen tax withholding." So let it be written; so let it be done.

Posted by: SCoaMF at May 23, 2016 07:42 PM (1CroS)

97 *shrug* they don't photograph letters. And even it they did, they just have... a picture of an envelope.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (39g3+)

...with recipient, return address, and the post office stamp to show its journey from where it was mailed.

...meta data in other words.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:42 PM (AkOaV)

98 87 Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (7qAYi)


It Keeps You Running (the yak meat and bullets)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:42 PM (p4UlV)

99 Always wondered why some Japanese pictures were blurred out.
Yes, Skip. It's called "Yoko's Law".


No one wants to see Yoko Ono nekkid.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 07:43 PM (geVJ9)

100 Devil's island still open for new goverment guests?

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:43 PM (3wHFl)

101 Now this doesn't sound very tolerant. Why don't you try a hashtag. #notallmuslims #peacethruacceptance. Do either of those work for you???

Posted by: Jen Psaki at May 23, 2016 07:43 PM (12kBq)

102 Now the revenue man wanted Grandaddy bad
He headed up the holler with everything he had
'Fore my time but I've been told
He never come back from Copperhead Road

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 23, 2016 07:43 PM (Ht/4p)

103 willowed in the last thread.

You bastards.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 07:43 PM (1ZOkK)

104 90 J.K. - but how do you starve a rat with arrest and seizure powers?

Solzhenitsyn - discussed here this weekend - was right, the people of the USSR could have fought back collectively, but were intimidated individually.
Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (imC+1)


The key is unity and simultaneity. Figure that out and you rule the world.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:44 PM (p4UlV)

105 >>No one wants to see Yoko Ono nekkid.


You don't want to see Art Garfunkel naked, either.

Trust me on this.

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:44 PM (aoFFB)

106
...with recipient, return address, and the post office stamp to show its journey from where it was mailed.


So? What exactly do you figure they're going to do with it? Keep a database of stamps? Without the contents of the letter that's just a picture of an envelope.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:44 PM (39g3+)

107 No one wants to, but I don't think that would stop Maet.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:44 PM (3wHFl)

108 105 >>No one wants to see Yoko Ono nekkid.

You don't want to see Art Garfunkel naked, either.

Trust me on this.
Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:44 PM (aoFFB)


I went to the same gym as Don Knotts. Seeing him in a towel was rather upsetting to me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (p4UlV)

109 Solzhenitsyn - discussed here this weekend - was right, the people of the USSR could have fought back collectively, but were intimidated individually.
Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (imC+1)

He was also right that by the 1930s, it was too late. It needed to be fought back against in the Teens.

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (7qAYi)

110 Good for the parents. Nothing will come of it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (1ZOkK)

111
So? What exactly do you figure they're going to do with it? Keep a database of stamps? Without the contents of the letter that's just a picture of an envelope.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:44 PM (39g3+)

You see who is connected to whom, the frequency of letters being sent, the size / weight of the packages, the days, times, etc. they're dropped off...

With a good algorithm, you know a lottt more information then you think from just meta data.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (AkOaV)

112 What about carrier pigeons?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (OjM0b)

113 "claim 99 dependents on your withholding, then don't pay up at the end of the year would probably work."
---------------
Sure, if you want to pay MASSIVE penalties for underpayment.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (T/5A0)

114 112 What about carrier pigeons?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (OjM0b)

Hmmm... not a bad idea.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:46 PM (AkOaV)

115 >>I went to the same gym as Don Knotts. Seeing him in a towel was rather upsetting to me.


Mr Limpet was in the POOL!

Posted by: Zombie Don Knotts at May 23, 2016 07:46 PM (aoFFB)

116 114 112 What about carrier pigeons?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (OjM0b)

Hmmm... not a bad idea.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:46 PM (AkOaV)


**Dick Dastardly twirling mustache as Muttley snickers**

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (p4UlV)

117 Sure, if you want to pay MASSIVE penalties for underpayment.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (T/5A0)

*****

I'm gonna guess that you are missing the point.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (KcI5m)

118 Jane D'oh, I count the comments quotient , as soon as the comments per minute drops to minutes per comment look for the new thread.

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (3wHFl)

119 Bernie is quoted at Drudge calling for a "messy convention". Feel the Bern!

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (/m8T6)

120 Just saying, if enough people connected by mail, there's no need for speed, just coordination. Low tech and old school is the way to go.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (39g3+)

121 I went to the same gym as Don Knotts. Seeing him in a towel was rather upsetting to me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (p4UlV)




His whole body wasn't a weapon?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 23, 2016 07:48 PM (45oDG)

122 There should be a civil war going on in Venezuela by July, Dems will use this to explain why they should not go with Bernie the socialist. It will be a shame Hillary is somehow a victim of the vast RWC. But just vote for the new guy/girl like we say will be the mantra. Maybe CBS can make a new show about it for the fall, Choo Choo and the Indian. Modeled after that fine show. BJ and the Bear.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 23, 2016 07:48 PM (6Ll1u)

123 The problem with a tax revolt over any given issue is that, if it works, such revolts will then become the norm over many, many issues, some of which you might not necessarily support.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 07:48 PM (4ErVI)

124 Venezuela =what the socialist apocalypse looks like

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2016 07:49 PM (3wHFl)

125 >>No one wants to see Yoko Ono nekkid.

Hell, it made me queasy.

Posted by: John Lennon at May 23, 2016 07:49 PM (c7vUv)

126 117 Sure, if you want to pay MASSIVE penalties for underpayment.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (T/5A0)

Huh? The point is you don't pay any taxes.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 07:49 PM (1PWlL)

127 120 Just saying, if enough people connected by mail, there's no need for speed, just coordination. Low tech and old school is the way to go.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (39g3+)

and my point is that if we connected by mail, we'd be leaving much more of a "footprint" then if we connected on Tor or even the 'hq.

Fedex or UPS might work though, if you spoofed the origin labels like the drug dealers do.

but that would be illegal.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 07:49 PM (AkOaV)

128 123 The problem with a tax revolt over any given issue is that, if it works, such revolts will then become the norm over many, many issues, some of which you might not necessarily support.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 07:48 PM (4ErVI)


Well, a tax revolt has to be followed by the removal from office of virtually everyone in Congress as well as a shutdown of every Federal Agency.

And how that happens will be left to the imagination.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:49 PM (p4UlV)

129 119
Bernie is quoted at Drudge calling for a "messy convention". Feel the Bern!

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (/m8T6)


Socialist's idea of a "messy convention."


*makes note to buy more popcorn*





Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 07:50 PM (1ZOkK)

130 Bernie is quoted at Drudge calling for a "messy convention". Feel the Bern!

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 07:47 PM (/m8T6)




I hope the old commie really digs in his heels and gives them a real Stalingrad like fight to the end

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 23, 2016 07:50 PM (45oDG)

131 >>What about carrier pigeons?


The Solar Arrays will burn them up.

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:50 PM (aoFFB)

132 "Kate Steinly's parents should be able to sue the mayor, the governor of
California, obama, and everyone in the Dept of Homeland Security."

And Commiefornia attorney general Kamala Harris.

Currently running to fill the seat which Senator Ma'am is vacating.

Harris combines the dull wits of Babs Boxer with the indignant identity politics of Michelle Obama. The rest of you are going to just love this lady once you get to know her.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 23, 2016 07:50 PM (noWW6)

133 And dammit, half my post disappeared.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 07:50 PM (1ZOkK)

134 Jane D'oh, I count the comments quotient , as soon as the comments per minute drops to minutes per comment look for the new thread.
Posted by: Skip


Or look at comment #150 where it says "nood serious post".
Just sayin'. :-)

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 07:50 PM (geVJ9)

135 132 Posted by: torquewrench at May 23, 2016 07:50 PM (noWW6)

With the judiciary all but gone, taking the government to court is a fool's errand.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:51 PM (p4UlV)

136 Not paying Le Taxes? Mais non! Bring forth Madame Guillotine. It is time for some pour encourages les autres!


Posted by: Francois Hollande at May 23, 2016 07:51 PM (rznWS)

137 Kinda related: president of Americans for Tax Reform president is Grover Norquist, who married a Muslim and is rumored to have converted to Islam. So...wouldn't be looking to that org to support anything like this here.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2016 07:39 PM (NOIQH)


Norquist is for tax reform because currently jizya isn't recognized in the US tax code!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 23, 2016 07:52 PM (wYnyS)

138 Sure, if you want to pay MASSIVE penalties for underpayment.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (T/5A0)

Huh? The point is you don't pay any taxes.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 07:49 PM (1PWlL)



When they seize your home, or burn it down ala Waco style, you will have paid. Thru. The. Nose.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 07:52 PM (geVJ9)

139 Well, I'm off to feed the family and a visiting Marine and girlfriend.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 07:53 PM (1ZOkK)

140 The problem with a tax revolt over any given issue is that, if it works, such revolts will then become the norm over many, many issues, some of which you might not necessarily support.

Yes, this is a concern. Its not easy to do, but once you get it to work you can be damn sure George Soros will put that into action for himself, too. And the stuff he wants done, the federal government is more inclined to "give in" on, like the lawsuits the EPA is encouraging against its self by activists.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (39g3+)

141
Jizz you, jizz me . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (p4UlV)

142 >>and a visiting Marine and girlfriend.


Is she hot?

Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (aoFFB)

143 >>Bernie is quoted at Drudge calling for a "messy convention". Feel the Bern!

Posted by: MTF

Between Hillary and I regularly filling our adult diapers it's going to be messy.

Posted by: Bernie at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (c7vUv)

144 >>>I went to the same gym as Don Knotts. Seeing him in a towel was rather upsetting to me.<<<

Like seeing the reflection of a yeti's taint on the glassy surface of glacier in a blizzard on Mt. Everest.

Posted by: Fritz at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (f40FU)

145 Four words:

"ABSOLUTE!"

"MOTHERFUCKING!"

"MORAL!"

"AUTHORITAH!"

Posted by: Sharkman at May 23, 2016 07:55 PM (CS7jF)

146 Well, a tax revolt has to be followed by the removal from office of virtually everyone in Congress as well as a shutdown of every Federal Agency.

And how that happens will be left to the imagination.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:49 PM (p4UlV)


And when that happens, at least half the country won't support it and won't pay taxes.

Oh wait...they don't pay any income taxes anyway!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 07:56 PM (4ErVI)

147 146
And when that happens, at least half the country won't support it and won't pay taxes.

Oh wait...they don't pay any income taxes anyway!
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 07:56 PM (4ErVI)


It's the taxpayers I'm talking about.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:57 PM (p4UlV)

148 "Feel the Bern!"



Why are we groping Switzerland? Is this a new thing? I'm always behind the curve when it comes to this kind of stuff.

*kicks dust, wanders off*

Posted by: right wing whippersnapper- quietly rebellious at May 23, 2016 07:57 PM (26lkV)

149 Not pay taxes. Heh.

We're $200 T behind in unfunded liabilities.

We're $19 T in current debt.

We've run deficits of $1 T in consecutive years.

A few of us not ponying up for a couple of quarters ain't doing shit.

Now, hack the EBT server, then you've got something.

Posted by: Golfman at May 23, 2016 07:57 PM (48QDY)

150 And we are paying for the INS to open a special center for tranny illegals....And they wonder why Trump is catching on?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 07:59 PM (Ozsfq)

151 142 >>and a visiting Marine and girlfriend.


Is she hot?
Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (aoFFB)



I wouldn't mess with a Marine's girlfriend. Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 07:59 PM (sdi6R)

152 Bernie is trying to blackmail his way into the VP spot. He's rousing his rabble but not hitting Hillary with anything tough out of his own mouth.

From back bencher to VP is a good last hurrah as he turns 75 in September.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's yikes. at May 23, 2016 08:00 PM (3myMJ)

153 >>I wouldn't mess with a Marine's girlfriend.


Puthy ith puthy.


Posted by: Mike Tyson at May 23, 2016 08:01 PM (aoFFB)

154 and a visiting Marine and girlfriend.


Is she hot?
Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (aoFFB)


I wouldn't mess with a Marine's girlfriend. Just sayin'.
Posted by: rickl




Jodi does.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 08:01 PM (geVJ9)

155
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamida_Djandoubi

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 08:01 PM (iQIUe)

156 The French do have a history of successfully overthrowing their governments through popular revolt.

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 08:01 PM (7qAYi)

157 Well, I guess I may be the fool, but, on June 12, I leave for 5 days in Paris and then continue onto Tuscany for a week long watercolor workshop about an hour out of Pisa and then a few days in Florence. My thinking was that I had best see Paris while the Muslims still permit it. Also, the Euro is very cheap against the dollar.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:02 PM (kXoT0)

158
Puthy ith puthy.


Posted by: Mike Tyson at May 23, 2016 08:01 PM (aoFFB)

Can we get you to run our clandestine carrier pigeon program?

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 08:02 PM (7qAYi)

159 Bernie as VP would be the final nail in the Trump coffin is my guess.
Could I be wrong? Yup.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 23, 2016 08:02 PM (hVdx9)

160 155
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamida_Djandoubi

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 08:01 PM (iQIUe)


Executed by Marcel Chevalier.

I loved his music. Must've fallen on hard times in his later years.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 08:02 PM (4ErVI)

161 Something I read about that's very interesting is that abortion is not done as permissively in Europe as it is here.

Yes you heard that right in Europe there are limits that are less than those here and counseling is mandatory and anyone under 18 must get their parents permission.

The Gyno sphere would have a massive hissy fit (and they have) if even ONE of those requirements were made law.

I was shocked. Of course they're more likely to kill old people so that balances things out I guess.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 23, 2016 08:03 PM (Xo1Rt)

162
Yep, they filmed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWOlU_TtOIw

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 08:04 PM (iQIUe)

163 Hillary and Bernie are both out here now, Hillary is meeting with a few other 1%ers. Bernie is packing them in by the thousands, some mysterious non partisan group protested Hillary today at a union rally. But the Fox reporter says she heard one guy make a pro Trump comment. So case settled I guess, these aren't the Bernie protesters you are looking for. Move along.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 23, 2016 08:04 PM (6Ll1u)

164 Well, this might be something. Hillary's campaign does not have her scheduled for any events after tomorrow through next Sunday.

That's five days in New York with an uncommitted public schedule, Wednesday through next Sunday. The FBI has their largest office outside of D.C. in New York.

https://hillaryspeeches.com/scheduled-events/

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 08:07 PM (/m8T6)

165 162
Yep, they filmed it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWOlU_TtOIw

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 08:04 PM (iQIUe)


Pretty sure that's an earlier execution. They quit doing them out in the open like that due to some problems with people assembled to witness them. The footage looks much older than 1977 as well. That might be the execution of Marcel Petiot. Off to check.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 08:07 PM (4ErVI)

166 From back bencher to VP is a good last hurrah as he turns 75 in September.
Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's yikes. at May 23, 2016 08:00 PM (3myMJ)

It certainly ups his retirement package nicely. He can even resign after a few months and be golden. We keep talking about how stupid he is, but, on the Leftist side, he may be the only smart one. Hillz is spending money and influence as fast as she can just to stay barely ahead of him. The worst that can happen to Bernie at this point is to retire with just his Senate/Congress Critter bennies...compared to the average schlub with a Feel The Bern bumper sticker, Bernie's bennies are flush, lush, and untouchable. He doesn't have the Clintons money, but, he and wifey can now cash in on the lecture tour.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:07 PM (kXoT0)

167 As for Europe, yikes.

Greece is back for more loans to pay against the loans they can't pay that were loans to pay for other loans they couldn't pay.

How many iterations of this the EU and IMF have performed I've lost count.

Italy is slowly sinking like Venice, Spain isn't doing so hot either. Nobody wants to talk about Portugal.

Meanwhile, Muslims are starting to get elected to high positions from which they threaten America.
Think about that, the Mayor of London telling
America that it better moderate its policies or there will be more attacks.

He sounds like effing Zawahiri for crying out loud. And no one called him on it.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's yikes. at May 23, 2016 08:08 PM (3myMJ)

168 Google both beanies, fat ass bitch's and the wasserfucks picks for the democratic platform committee and then tell me you are not working 100% to get Trump elected. Just try

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:08 PM (Ozsfq)

169 And don't get me started on France.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at May 23, 2016 08:08 PM (3myMJ)

170 Google both beanies, fat ass bitch's and the wasserfucks picks for the democratic platform committee and then tell me you are not working 100% to get Trump elected. Just try
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:08 PM (Ozsfq)

Hey Ace, THIS is thread worthy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:09 PM (Ozsfq)

171 Is she hot?
Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:54 PM (aoFFB)

we were all thinking it

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 08:09 PM (AkOaV)

172 It's this guy in the film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Weidmann

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 08:09 PM (4ErVI)

173 157 Well, I guess I may be the fool, but, on June 12, I leave for 5 days in Paris and then continue onto Tuscany for a week long watercolor workshop about an hour out of Pisa and then a few days in Florence. My thinking was that I had best see Paris while the Muslims still permit it. Also, the Euro is very cheap against the dollar.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:02 PM (kXoT0)

=========
Summer Solstice is a big deal over their. The entire country has a street music festival and many last all night long.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 08:09 PM (iQIUe)

174 Oops! You'll be in Italy by that time and not France. Never mind.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 08:10 PM (iQIUe)

175
Who's Beanie? Is he with Cecil?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 08:10 PM (p4UlV)

176 Enjoy your trip Sherry
Stay away from the Muzzies

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 08:11 PM (voOPb)

177 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:02 PM (kXoT0)


Nice. Tuscany is beautiful and I'll bet this is the perfect time of year to be there. Sunflowers!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 08:12 PM (8ZskC)

178
Bernie's bennies are flush, lush, and untouchable. He doesn't have the Clintons money, but, he and wifey can now cash in on the lecture tour.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars


Wife could get another college admin gig. Her resume is impeccable.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 08:12 PM (k4M/B)

179 http://www.bluejersey.com/2016/05/dnc-names-platform-committee/

Democratic Platform Committee

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:12 PM (Ozsfq)

180 "Our children were voting for you, we were telling them: This man will bring you to a bad end! We didn't believe it would be so literally! You have led them to their death," it reads at its end."

Damn.

Posted by: Lauren at May 23, 2016 08:13 PM (pspWL)

181 Yeah. I recently re-read "The Stranger" by Albert Camus. The guy got guillotined.

btw, they don't place it up on a platform. It's all very "down to earth."

Yuk, yuk, yuk.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:14 PM (1ijHg)

182 Enjoy your trip Sherry
Stay away from the Muzzies
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 08:11 PM (voOPb)

That is my plan. I am staying in the heart of Paris, close to the Louvre, Musee D'Orsay, Notre Dame, etc, so I expect the gendarme presence to be ubiquitous. I spent more money, but, I should be able to most of what I want without submitting to taxicab roulette. Same thing in Florence. The workshop is at property in the countryside.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:14 PM (kXoT0)

183 >>Her resume is impeccable.

Keep her away from real estate & check book

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 08:14 PM (voOPb)

184 179 http://www.bluejersey.com/2016/05/dnc-names-platform-committee/

NGU, I mentioned this earlier and there's a good WaPo piece on it. It's one commie after another.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (/m8T6)

185
btw, they don't place it up on a platform. It's all very "down to earth."
Yuk, yuk, yuk.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo


You're a pain in the neck.

Posted by: pep at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (LAe3v)

186 108 105 >>No one wants to see Yoko Ono nekkid.

You don't want to see Art Garfunkel naked, either.

Trust me on this.
Posted by: garrett at May 23, 2016 07:44 PM (aoFFB)


I went to the same gym as Don Knotts. Seeing him in a towel was rather upsetting to me.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 07:45 PM (p4UlV)



Would you have preferred seeing his "Little Buddy?"

Posted by: buzzion at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (z/Ubi)

187
Hon. Howard Berman, Paul Booth, Hon. Carol Browner, Rep. Keith Ellison, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, Rep. Barbara Lee, Bill McKibben, Deborah Parker, State Rep. Alicia Reece, Bonnie Schaefer, Ambassador Wendy Sherman, Neera Tanden, Dr. Cornel West, and James Zogby.


It's an absolute freak show.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (p4UlV)

188
Well, I guess I may be the fool, but, on June 12, I leave for 5 days in
Paris and then continue onto Tuscany for a week long watercolor workshop
about an hour out of Pisa and then a few days in Florence. My thinking
was that I had best see Paris while the Muslims still permit it. Also,
the Euro is very cheap against the dollar.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:02 PM (kXoT0)
==============================================

That sounds so lovely. Florence is one of my favorite cities. Enjoy.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (dFi94)

189 NGU, I mentioned this earlier and there's a good WaPo piece on it. It's one commie after another.
Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (/m8T6)


Yup. It's a rogue's gallery of anti-semites and left wing wackos.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (Ozsfq)

190 Would you have preferred seeing his "Little Buddy?"
Posted by: buzzion at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (z/Ubi)



Gilligan?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (8ZskC)

191 186
Would you have preferred seeing his "Little Buddy?"
Posted by: buzzion at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (z/Ubi)

He kept his fyffe sheathed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 08:16 PM (p4UlV)

192 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:14 PM (kXoT0

Love to see your work sometime. My idea of water colors is cleaning out my acrylic brushes. That's my way of saying I suck

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 08:16 PM (voOPb)

193 I never would have figured Don Knotts to be a dazzling cosmopolitan.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:17 PM (1ijHg)

194 181 Yeah. I recently re-read "The Stranger" by Albert Camus. The guy got guillotined.

Wow! They really must have hated his writing.

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 08:17 PM (7qAYi)

195 Hon. Howard Berman, Paul Booth, Hon. Carol Browner, Rep. Keith Ellison, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, Rep. Barbara Lee, Bill McKibben, Deborah Parker, State Rep. Alicia Reece, Bonnie Schaefer, Ambassador Wendy Sherman, Neera Tanden, Dr. Cornel West, and James Zogby.


It's an absolute freak show.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 08:15 PM (p4UlV)

THAT list should be all we need to elected even road kill to the White House against ANY democrat...IF there was any justice in the world!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:17 PM (Ozsfq)

196 Wife could get another college admin gig. Her resume is impeccable.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 08:12 PM (k4M/B)

That requires actual work. She can make a small college Presidents yearly salary in just a few hours on the lecture tour not to mention the lecture gig perks--usually first class air, hotels, limos, etc.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:17 PM (kXoT0)

197 We've run deficits of $1 T in consecutive years.

A few of us not ponying up for a couple of quarters ain't doing shit.


Oh sure, the money isn't the point. They spend anyway. But from their perspective, its control and they lose control if they don't get paid.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 08:17 PM (39g3+)

198 Sherry - My niece will be in Paris about the same time as you. She's a lovely girl. Maybe you will run into each other. If you do, she knows a whole lot about wine. Watch for her. She is tall with very dark brown hair and is usually smiling.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (dFi94)

199 My wife is cooking so I have to get up soon and see if there is any TV Dinner at the bottom of the freezer for me!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (Ozsfq)

200 Sherry, have some ice cream at Berthillon.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (/WPPJ)

201 Well whether it was the last guy guillotined or the other dude, it's nothing to lose our heads over.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (4ErVI)

202 Well Austria, you just voted for a heaping helping of this by putting a Green commie in power because too many of you didn't want to be called "nazis" by the elite who live under the umbrella of armed security.

Don't complain about having to pay for the coddling of your killers or else you'll get that midnight knock on your door. But at least they won't be the gestapo, so you can feel good that your government meets the approval of George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg

Posted by: kbdabear at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (cpafa)

203 Bill fucking McKibben, James Zogby, Keith Ellison, Cornel West and Deborah Parker. Thanks, but no thanks Bernie.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (/m8T6)

204 You ever see the you tube video of 1000 people playing Learning to Fly. By the Foo Fighters, they wanted to get them to come play a concert. I'm pretty sure that was in Italy. And they came and played a concert for them after that awesome invitation.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 23, 2016 08:19 PM (6Ll1u)

205 Sherry - My niece will be in Paris about the same time as you. She's a lovely girl. Maybe you will run into each other. If you do, she knows a whole lot about wine. Watch for her. She is tall with very dark brown hair and is usually smiling.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (dFi94)

That would be wonderful.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:20 PM (kXoT0)

206 Maybe my dream (@164) will come true and Hillary has her time with the FBI this week.

The timing is about right.

Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 08:21 PM (/m8T6)

207 After leaving Mayberry, where the voters just could not vote for him to be Sheriff, I thought Don Knotts went to Santa Monica and owned an apartment.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:21 PM (1ijHg)

208 Bill fucking McKibben, James Zogby, Keith Ellison, Cornel West and Deborah Parker. Thanks, but no thanks Bernie.
Posted by: MTF at May 23, 2016 08:18 PM (/m8T6)


hey fat ass bitch's and wasserdick's are not much better

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:21 PM (Ozsfq)

209 Thanks everyone for the well wishes for my trip. I will try to post from there.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:21 PM (kXoT0)

210 Maybe you will run into each other. If you do, she knows a whole lot about wine. Watch for her. She is tall with very dark brown hair and is usually smiling.


Pro Tip: If she offers to read your palm and steals you wallet, it might not be her.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 08:22 PM (8ZskC)

211 They hated him some much that he attempted suicide.

But, as a leftard, he failed.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:22 PM (1ijHg)

212 Keith (There is plenty of money, the Government just doesn't have it....yet) Ellison.

Lovely.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 08:23 PM (KcI5m)

213 Thanks everyone for the well wishes for my trip. I will try to post from there.



Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:21 PM (kXoT0)
===========================================

Take a lot of selfies, then send the pics to Ace so he can post them. We can vacation vicariously from the comfort of our own thread.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 23, 2016 08:23 PM (dFi94)

214 Iranian official: We can destroy Israel 'in eight minutes'

Senior Iranian military commander threatens to "raze the Zionist regime" after Khamenei calls to continue building missile arsenal.

hey maybe the dems can put that in their platform

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:23 PM (Ozsfq)

215
So is the DNC going to vote down Jesus or something? Vote for BDS?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 23, 2016 08:24 PM (iQIUe)

216 214 Iranian official: We can destroy Israel 'in eight minutes'

Senior Iranian military commander threatens to "raze the Zionist regime" after Khamenei calls to continue building missile arsenal.

hey maybe the dems can put that in their platform
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:23 PM (Ozsfq)

Quit giving them ideas

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 08:24 PM (voOPb)

217
Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 08:01 PM (geVJ9)

*Snort*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 23, 2016 08:24 PM (QDVFm)

218 Pro Tip: If she offers to read your palm and steals you wallet, it might not be her.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 08:22 PM (8ZskC)
===============================================

How do you think she put herself through private college?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 23, 2016 08:24 PM (dFi94)

219 207 After leaving Mayberry, where the voters just could not vote for him to be Sheriff, I thought Don Knotts went to Santa Monica and owned an apartment.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:21 PM (1ijHg)


Yup. That's where the gym was; I lived in LA for about 8 years.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 23, 2016 08:25 PM (p4UlV)

220 How do you think she put herself through private college?

Yikes

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 08:25 PM (8ZskC)

221 I can destroy the Earth in eight minutes.


Posted by: Sol at May 23, 2016 08:26 PM (1ijHg)

222 >>THAT list should be all we need to elected even road kill to the White House

This is about my hair, isn't it?

Posted by: The Donald at May 23, 2016 08:26 PM (c7vUv)

223 Pixy won't let me quote.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 23, 2016 08:27 PM (VdICR)

224
Stephen Crowder unloads [again] on the untalented and unfunny joke-stealer Amy Shumer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv_mka0Yh0M

Here is Amy trying to be funny about her papsmear and Congress, who are old and white, are all up in her pussy.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:27 PM (/7JDl)

225 So is the DNC going to vote down Jesus or something? Vote for BDS?
_____________________

Been there, done that.

I take it you missed our 2008 convention, when we booed G-d?

Posted by: DNC at May 23, 2016 08:27 PM (BNs9e)

226
Here is Amy trying to be funny about her papsmear and Congress, who are old and white, are all up in her pussy.
Posted by: Mister Magoo


Could they all fit?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 08:28 PM (k4M/B)

227 jj, you know that I was just joking.

Too funny.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:28 PM (1ijHg)

228 Hon. Howard Berman, Paul Booth, Hon. Carol Browner, Rep. Keith Ellison, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, Rep. Barbara Lee, Bill McKibben, Deborah Parker, State Rep. Alicia Reece, Bonnie Schaefer, Ambassador Wendy Sherman, Neera Tanden, Dr. Cornel West, and James Zogby.


It's an absolute freak show.


I have one #NeverTrump hashtag, one #NeverTrump hashtag, do I hear 100 dollars? 50 dollars? $25? Do I have a bidder at $10?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 08:28 PM (8ZskC)

229 Here is Amy trying to be funny about her papsmear and Congress, who are old and white, are all up in her pussy.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:27 PM (/7JDl)

*****

But I'm sure she's cool with Trannys all up in her bathroom grill.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 08:28 PM (KcI5m)

230 By the way the Congressional Bathrooms on Capital hill are unisexual right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 23, 2016 08:29 PM (Ozsfq)

231 "Keep the government out of my bedroom!"

has changed to

"Let the government into my restroom."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:30 PM (1ijHg)

232 I looked for the quote "Europeans are nice, until they are not."

I found a quote from Roadhouse, which is good.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 23, 2016 08:31 PM (VdICR)

233 Here is Amy trying to be funny about her papsmear and Congress, who are old and white, are all up in her pussy.
Posted by: Mister Magoo

Could they all fit?


That would be Sandra Fluke. No waiting.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2016 08:31 PM (geVJ9)

234 Could they all fit?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 08:28 PM (k4M/B)


There's a theory that we're all living in it right now.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 23, 2016 08:31 PM (4ErVI)

235 >>>is Amy trying to be funny about her papsmear and Congress, who are old and white, are all up in her pussy.


Jeep Cherokee has traveled up there

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 08:31 PM (voOPb)

236 Well, my son just got pissed at me because I made an accurate remark about his nasty old paternal grandfather.

But he finished his laundry and his friends from Baltimore are due back to spend the night.


He believes all the shit his dad tells him about how awesome the evil old fake conservative bastard was. And how the evil bastard treated my family, me, and even our son.

Great evening.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:33 PM (1ZOkK)

237 Here is Amy trying to be funny about her papsmear and Congress, who are old and white, are all up in her pussy.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:27 PM (/7JDl)

My goodness, that girl's vajayjay doesn't just have a landing strip, it's got runway lights, a wind sock, and it's own traffic controller.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:34 PM (kXoT0)

238 As the Bolshevik said in Doctor Zhivago, the private life is now over.
And so we have Amy Schumer discussing her papsmear.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 08:34 PM (T/5A0)

239
Full disclosure: Steven Crowder is one of those "everyone sucks, both Democrats and Republicans" libertarians. Adam Corolla plays this character, too.

I agree, in general, but mine and Crowders reasons on why both parties suck are different. You know what I mean.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:34 PM (/7JDl)

240 What exactly is the left upset about with congress now? Did the pass a law outlawing orgasms or something?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 08:35 PM (39g3+)

241 Relax Jane.

The don't hate you if they don't love you.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:35 PM (1ijHg)

242 He believes all the shit his dad tells him about how awesome the evil old fake conservative bastard was. And how the evil bastard treated my family, me, and even our son.

Great evening.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:33 PM (1ZOkK)

Sorry, Jane, family myths can be so hurtful.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:35 PM (kXoT0)

243 239
Full disclosure: Steven Crowder is one of those "everyone sucks, both Democrats and Republicans" libertarians. Adam Corolla plays this character, too.

I agree, in general, but mine and Crowders reasons on why both parties suck are different. You know what I mean.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:34 PM (/7JDl)

Crowder? A libertarian.

Color me dubious.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 08:36 PM (AkOaV)

244
My goodness, that girl's vajayjay doesn't just have a landing strip, it's got runway lights, a wind sock, and it's own traffic controller.

And the whole world revolves around it. She believes.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:36 PM (/7JDl)

245 I couldn't "dislike" my inlaws more. And my husband is treading on thin ice.

Turn our son against the only grandpa who loved him? The only granny who loved him?

Sadly, our son listens to the "fount of knowledge" that is his dad, raised by rabid libs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:36 PM (1ZOkK)

246 The opposite of love is not hate. It is indifference.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:37 PM (1ijHg)

247
Color me dubious.

No? I'll defer to you, then. I know very little about Crowder.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:37 PM (/7JDl)

248 >>But I'm sure she's cool with Trannys all up in her bathroom grill.

Riiiiight, I'm sure she is as she's a raving 3d wave feminist.
But she also just got super upset over some guy who --- prepare yourself --- ran up to her and snapped a selfie with her without her consent. She declared no more selfies with fans, you guys, because she was violated.

*I'm sure there are fans who invade private space, but she particularly touchy for someone whose humor claims she's self-assured and badass. See also her twitter freakout when a young fan joked about meeting her at some red carpet event (in the same vein as her re: her promiscuity).

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2016 08:37 PM (NOIQH)

249 I got lucky in the inlaw department. My MIL can be a bit touchy, but overall they're great.

Posted by: Lauren at May 23, 2016 08:38 PM (pspWL)

250 247
Color me dubious.

No? I'll defer to you, then. I know very little about Crowder.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:37 PM (/7JDl)

He's an evangelical christian who didnt have sex until he got married (NTTAWWT), a former child actor, and (gasp) a Canadian. And to me has always come off as a SoCon Dane Cook.

(full disclosure: not a fan of dane cook)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 08:38 PM (AkOaV)

251 Gah. I'm so tired. Have been treating son's Marine buddy and girlfriend like royalty, showing them around, taking them to lunch today, etc. etc.

Son acts like it's "owed" his buddy because "Marine."

Why can't my son and husband understand that I do what I do out of love?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:39 PM (1ZOkK)

252 in re #248

Why it's almost like her own life/schtick are complete bullsquirt, nah, couldn't be!

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:39 PM (kXoT0)

253 244
My goodness, that girl's vajayjay doesn't just have a landing strip, it's got runway lights, a wind sock, and it's own traffic controller.

And the whole world revolves around it. She believes.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:36 PM (/7JDl)

Well it does have its own gravity well

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 08:39 PM (7qAYi)

254

Someone should tweet:

Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Joseph Stalin, Joseph Mengele, Baby Doc Duvallier, are all Bernie Sanders' choices for the Democrat Platform Committee!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:39 PM (/7JDl)

255 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 23, 2016 08:40 PM (KCxzN)

256 Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Joseph Stalin, Joseph Mengele, Baby Doc Duvallier, are all Bernie Sanders' choices for the Democrat Platform Committee!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:39 PM (/7JDl)

You forgot Idi Amin, it would be a shame for the insane cannibal Leftist wing to not be represented.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:41 PM (kXoT0)

257 >>My goodness, that girl's vajayjay doesn't just have a landing strip, it's got runway lights, a wind sock, and it's own traffic controller.

Pro tip: stay on the upwind side.

Posted by: Aviator at May 23, 2016 08:41 PM (c7vUv)

258 Speaking of witholding funds...that she-woman from SNL and Ghostbusters is doing Allstate commercials.

Do with that info what you wish.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (r4VQU)

259 So, the NBA says it costs 25,000 to kick your opponent in the nads. How much does it cost to _ _ _ _ punt Amy Schumer? And did you see that Tom Brady hired Ted Olsen, the lawyer on the pro gay marriage side of the SCOTUS decision, as his lawyer for the deflate gate appeal?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (6Ll1u)

260
The mixed messages from today's bubbleheaded feminists are amusing. On one hand, they demand privacy, independence, and equality!

On the other hand, often in the same breath, they demand a grocery list of what Government must do for them!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (/7JDl)

261 My MIL apologized to me a year or so ago for being an EVIL BITCH to me from the get go.

Husband had to leave for work in Chicago five days after our son's emergency c-section birth.

That old bitch and husband lived 10 minutes away from us.

In the five years we lived there, prior to moving to Illinois, I never had so much as a can of soup brought to me.

Husband traveled five days per week. I had a broken foot and pneumonia in the first six months of our son's life.

Not a can of soup. Not a phone call. Ten minutes away.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (1ZOkK)

262 Ingratitude, thou marble-hearted fiend!

How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child!

Posted by: King Lear at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (T/5A0)

263
You forgot Idi Amin

Good pick, but I think Bernie only gets 6 picks, so I had to stop.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:43 PM (/7JDl)

264 that she-woman from SNL and Ghostbusters is doing Allstate commercials.

"Protect your next movie remake from mayhem... like me."

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 23, 2016 08:44 PM (6FqZa)

265 >>Not a can of soup. Not a phone call. Ten minutes away.

Wow.
Glad she apologized - means she knew what she did was horrible, right?


Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2016 08:44 PM (NOIQH)

266 Hey King Lear,

the daughter that does not spout silliness loves you.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:44 PM (1ijHg)

267
If we don't publicly mock these fools and totalitarians, their agenda will advance. Ignoring them is not a good plan.

But don't look at me. I don't have any social media for which to mock them.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:45 PM (/7JDl)

268 Sorry for the rant. Husband's dad is gone now. *zips lips*

And his lib mother is approaching her 93 birfday.

My parents treated my husband like the son they'd never had.

My in-laws were horribly disappointed my husband didn't marry the DOCTOR he had dated prior to me. The same DOCTOR who screwed all his friends and kept calling us after our marriage to break us up.

Ugh.

/rant

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:46 PM (1ZOkK)

269 Wow.
Glad she apologized - means she knew what she did was horrible, right?




Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2016 08:44 PM (NOIQH)



She actually told me that I was kinder and more generous than her two daughters and her sons.

And this is the thing that got me: "You've raised the best grandchild I have."

For the fucking win.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:47 PM (1ZOkK)

270 Not a can of soup. Not a phone call. Ten minutes away.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (1ZOkK)

People can be monsters. My husband's Mother did not write him a single letter while he was in Viet Nam, did not send one care package, and probably prayed for him to die. At the end of her life, he finally disclosed all the childhood beatings for not following her "rules", etc. to me. I never understood their relationship. I also never understood the contempt that my sister in law, the favored child, had for her Mother. Once I knew that, then, wham, it all made sense. Strangely enough, she was always good to me.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:48 PM (kXoT0)

271 "48
Pitchfork futures have taken an unexplained hike.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2016 07:32 PM (8ZskC)"


I don't know about pitchforks but a whole lot of people have bought AR-15s since Obama became President. It is one of the only bright spots in the economy.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 23, 2016 08:49 PM (QHgTq)

272 I'm lucky in that I get along with my wife's parents and she gets along with mine. Hell I get along better with my inlaws than with my parents. I think the key is we don't live in the same city. My in-laws are about 3 hours away and my parents are about 4 hours away. So we're close enough to see each other often, but not ALL THE TIME.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 08:49 PM (r4VQU)

273 Wow. I thought that my family was dysfunctional.

I was blessed beyond knowing.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:50 PM (1ijHg)

274 The Running Of The Jew, in UC Irvine : http://tinyurl.com/glflmem

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 23, 2016 08:50 PM (6FqZa)

275 266
the daughter that does not spout silliness loves you.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:44 PM
----------------------
True dat.
Too true the sound, too late the hearing thereof.
*sigh*

Posted by: King Lear at May 23, 2016 08:50 PM (T/5A0)

276
I'm Amy Schumer. I'm demand a free papsmear, free birth control, free abortions, and free maternity care. I already do get all these things but it's not enough -- I must criticize all the people involved in the process of delivering all these services to me.



This is what is so dumb about all these outspoken celebrity feminists today. There's really nothing left for them to "fight for," so all they can do is bitch bitch bitch.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:51 PM (/7JDl)

277 I predict the French gubmint will just seize the blocked accounts. Hell, they seize accounts here in the good ole USAA; I doubt the Frogs have a figleaf of protection like we theoretically do.

Venezuela -- It's a socialist breakfast, and both France and the US have elected them as well as their leaders. Expect moar pain.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 23, 2016 08:51 PM (gyKtp)

278 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 08:49 PM (r4VQU)

::shrug::

I get along with everyone.

You'd be surprised how far helping with mowing the lawns and fixing things around the house gets you with family.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 08:51 PM (AkOaV)

279 It did take seven years for my mom to accept my wife.

I think she was waiting to be sure the marriage was going to stick. I have some older brothers that "chose poorly."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:52 PM (1ijHg)

280 My son gets pissed at me for the smallest things, and it's pissing me off.

He doesn't hesitate to offer our guest room to his battle buddies, and that's fine.

But he gets disrespectful to me tonight over dinner, and my idiot husband supports him.

I'm so pissed at both of them right now I can barely breathe.

I'm the parent who prayed on her knees non-stop, who sent so many gift packages to him in Afghanistan I lost count, and the one who buried her mom a week after he arrived in boot camp. And couldn't even speak to or see my son.

*trying to tone down rage at son and idiot husband*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:53 PM (1ZOkK)

281 Your government considers your death at the hands of terrorists an acceptable loss.

Posted by: Tmitsss at May 23, 2016 08:53 PM (sUvQQ)

282 273 >> Wow. I thought that my family was dysfunctional.

It is my firm belief that ALL families are dysfunctional. Think about it; do you know of any family of your close personal knowledge that is not?

*chances are if you do, it is because they conceal it well *

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 23, 2016 08:54 PM (gyKtp)

283 Jane,

Don't fix breakfast for either one of them tomorrow. Maybe they will get the memo.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:55 PM (1ijHg)

284 No Taxation without Protection?

Posted by: Don Q... waiting for Total War Warhammer to release... at May 23, 2016 08:55 PM (qf6WZ)

285 Gah. Sorry for all that crap.

Those of you who have sweet in-laws are blessed beyond belief.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:55 PM (1ZOkK)

286
I'm Amy Schumer. I'm demand a free papsmear, free birth control, free abortions, and free maternity care. I already do get all these things but it's not enough -- I must criticize all the people involved in the process of delivering all these services to me.

Do you have to wait in line at Disney World?

Posted by: Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert McDonald at May 23, 2016 08:55 PM (k4M/B)

287 Every family has some fuckedupness. We're people, we're weird in our ways, we annoy people, we get annoyed by others. It's who we are.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 08:55 PM (r4VQU)

288 Posted by: Jane Doh at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (1ZOkK)

I hope this is not still a major concern in your life, although you have every right to be permanently pissed!

As Robert Brault wisely said, "If you can’t forgive and forget, pick one."

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 23, 2016 08:56 PM (wYnyS)

289
Wives/moms make breakfast?

Mine didn't!
I was doing my own laundry by the time I was 12!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:56 PM (/7JDl)

290 Sherry, I'm jealous about Tuscany.

In Florence, La Maremma in is a wonderful restaurant. It's near the Basilica of Santa Croce, a must see.

Have a blast, and I'm sure you will.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at May 23, 2016 08:56 PM (3myMJ)

291 283
Jane,

Don't fix breakfast for either one of them tomorrow. Maybe they will get the memo.




Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:55 PM (1ijHg)


Heh. They got up at the crack of noon today. I took them to lunch and a quick tour of the areas they're looking to live it.

And my son thinks I'm an ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:57 PM (1ZOkK)

292 Oh, and if your son is over 12, let him do his own damn laundry.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:57 PM (1ijHg)

293 You need to slap his stupid face.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 08:58 PM (1ijHg)

294 So John Oliver explained why there's nothing on the shelves in Venezuela and their currency is worth less than toilet paper: low oil prices.

Funny how it only affected Venezuela that way, huh?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 08:58 PM (39g3+)

295 You'd be surprised how far helping with mowing the lawns and fixing things around the house gets you with family.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 08:51 PM (AkOaV)

Naw, at the end, my husband couldn't walk very well at all, so he would load up our lawn tractor and drive 40 miles into Tulsa to mow his Mother's lawn. No gratitude. My husband was also extremely capable with fixing things and he spend hours undoing/redoing the messes his step Dad made. When his Mother died, she left the snottiest will leaving everything to their only grandchild with 2 one hundred dollar bills in an envelope for him--saying that she was excluding him because of all she had done for him while she was alive. He was so surprised and so hurt.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:58 PM (kXoT0)

296 The mixed messages from today's bubbleheaded
feminists are amusing. On one hand, they demand privacy, independence,
and equality!



On the other hand, often in the same breath, they demand a grocery list of what Government must do for them!





Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:42 PM (/7JDl)


Those broads are too stupid to figure out that he who pays, calls the tune. So if you want to call the tune, pony up. If you don't want to pony up, be prepared for whoever does to tell you what you have to do in order that he continue to pony up.

And as for privacy where the government is concerned, I believe young Archuleta put "paid" to that notion.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 08:58 PM (oKE6c)

297 Son is moving out of the hood Wednesday, so that is great news.


He sat down and showed his buddy where all the shooting and killing was going on in his hood. It was stunning.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:58 PM (1ZOkK)

298 D'oh Girl, just be quiet until they ask what's wrong. Then say, "Nothing."

They're toast.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at May 23, 2016 08:59 PM (3myMJ)

299
Here's the thing about uppity kids: Every time they start getting mouthy and act like they don't need you, let them exercise their newly found independence for a while, i.e., stop doing things for them and let them fend for themselves.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:59 PM (/7JDl)

300 *jane* can you go for a walk?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 09:00 PM (0O7c5)

301 294 So John Oliver explained why there's nothing on the shelves in Venezuela and their currency is worth less than toilet paper: low oil prices.

Funny how it only affected Venezuela that way, huh?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 08:58 PM (39g3+)

_____

Funny alos how when gas was $4 it was the end of the world as we know it (when Bush was prezzie). So high gas prices....bad. Low gas prices....bad.

Liberalism is always so consistent.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 23, 2016 09:01 PM (r4VQU)

302 Embrace the anger and the hatred. Channel that power!

Posted by: Darth Vader at May 23, 2016 09:01 PM (1ijHg)

303 Am I the only one that see's a link between this ... and "W" holding back on 28 pages of the 9-11 report ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 23, 2016 09:01 PM (fiGNd)

304 How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?

Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (v9E/c)

305

Let me tell you how it will be

There's one for you, nineteen for me

'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxmanShould five per cent appear too small

Be thankful I don't take it all

'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxmanIf you drive a car, I'll tax the street,

If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.

If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,

If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.Don't ask me what I want it for

If you don't want to pay some more

'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Posted by: Insert Name Here at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (iGbT1)

306 300
*jane* can you go for a walk?


Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 09:00 PM (0O7c5)



Umm, it's dark and there are only a few street lamps, so no. Don't want to run up on a rapey deer, fox, coyote, wild hog, or owl.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (1ZOkK)

307 304
How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two
weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique
business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is
tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?

Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (v9E/c)
where's her business plan? where's the lease?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (0O7c5)

308 angela,

you cannot tell. Assume the worst.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (1ijHg)

309
So John Oliver explained why there's nothing on the shelves in Venezuela and their currency is worth less than toilet paper: low oil prices.

His audience will believe it and everything else he says. They literally lap it up like babies to pabulum.

John Oliver is the biggest liar since Jon Stewart left the scene. Stewart wouldn't lie, exactly, but he did purposely disinform his gullible audience by oversimplifying things and omitting key pertinent facts.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (/7JDl)

310 Umm, it's dark and there are only a few street
lamps, so no. Don't want to run up on a rapey deer, fox, coyote, wild
hog, or owl.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (1ZOkK)
hmmm....then how about sharpening knives or cleaning guns

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (0O7c5)

311 I've calmed down. Son will be texting or calling me shortly to apologize. He's a good kid.

*looks sideways at lib-raised husband sitting in recliner*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:04 PM (1ZOkK)

312 I'm sorry that your son is exhibiting bad behavior, Jane. Maybe it's better that you vent at the HQ.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 23, 2016 09:05 PM (FQKBL)

313 Today's feminists do not seem to understand the razor thin edge on which they teeter. They want government to take care of everything. That's all well and good until you wake up and the government is now a completely hostile entity, as in say, Communist Cuba or Russia, or the theocracies like Iran and Saudi Arabia. The despise fundamentalist Christians for being a "patriarchy", yet, are silent in the face of Sharia law stoning rape victims and killing homosexuals.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:05 PM (kXoT0)

314 289
Wives/moms make breakfast?
Mine didn't!
I was doing my own laundry by the time I was 12!
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 08:56 PM
-----------------
Heh. Thinks to self: I wonder which little DeVille that is?!? With the "mister" I think it has to be one of the boys.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 09:05 PM (T/5A0)

315 hmmm....then how about sharpening knives or cleaning guns


Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (0O7c5)


lol

The knives are sharp and the guns (the few that weren't lost in boating accidents) are clean.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:05 PM (1ZOkK)

316 In general I like Steven Crowder, but the 15-second spots in his podcast are military-grade unfunny.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 23, 2016 09:06 PM (VdICR)

317 >>My goodness, that girl's vajayjay doesn't just have a landing strip, it's got runway lights, a wind sock, and it's own traffic controller.

Watch the meatball and maintain proper glide angle.

Posted by: wooga, just visited the Midway yesterday! at May 23, 2016 09:07 PM (EsA7u)

318 Jane ... if I may ...

... I was a good kid too, back in the day. And the best things that ever happened to me, long term, involved touching a hot stove - taking an ass beating - and such.

Jane - he's a vet. Let him go. He's a grown ass man.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 23, 2016 09:08 PM (fiGNd)

319 On the main post topic - meh.


Not at the family's loss, or their correct reaction. But if there ever was a time where that sort of sentiment had any meaning in Europe, or France, it's long gone.


So - not so much different than the US, which has changed into a largely unrecognizable place (exclusively in negative ways), seemingly over-night.


Hmmm, so let's look at just a few "news" items to check the water temp.


VA administrator compares veteran medical wait time issue to waiting times for rides at Disneyland. He retains his job for more than 2 hours. The public yawns, and turns to more serious items .....


"Major league baseball" (love the ludicrous faux gravitas of these under-regulated business partnerships that deal in stupid games) is going to "investigate" why a stadium employee mistakenly played the normal national anthem recording when a chorus was singing it. Oh - it was the "gay men's chorus". And oh - it was "pride" night. So - "investigation".


What a stupid, disgusting time for a literate intelligent civilized American to be alive.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2016 09:08 PM (QDnY+)

320 Hi all
tax revolt seems unlikely to work unless it was some massively organized effort
and then, even attempting to organize something can be prosecuted under RICO or the like

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:08 PM (5p18q)

321 Son has to meet with a veterans organization early tomorrow. He is working his ass off for his fellow vets.

His buddy who is staying with us was injured in Afganistan.

I noticed at lunch today he has a somewhat severe tic. He can't seem to control his arms. He said he had a hard time getting in to the VA in Baltimore.

Breaks my heart.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:08 PM (1ZOkK)

322
wooga, you were in Hawaii yesterday?

Did you see Don Ho?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:08 PM (/7JDl)

323 I don't know about pitchforks but a whole lot of people have bought
AR-15s since Obama became President. It is one of the only bright spots
in the economy.)))

My gun and ammo buying habits changed back with the assault weapons ban while Bill was prez. The amount of AKs and ARs would be minimal if they wouldn't have tried to ban them.

Posted by: Willy J. at May 23, 2016 09:09 PM (LncQn)

324 How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?
Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (v9E/c)

You can't. She has no track record yet. If the rehab was not her idea, a drug addict usually doesn't take a long time to fall off the wagon after leaving rehab. YMMV

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:09 PM (kXoT0)

325
Is the Midway at Hawaii? I don't even know.

Where's the Midway? The Midway is a battleship, right? What's the Midway?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:09 PM (/7JDl)

326 324
How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two
weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique
business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is
tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?

Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (v9E/c)



You can't. She has no track record yet. If the rehab was not her
idea, a drug addict usually doesn't take a long time to fall off the
wagon after leaving rehab. YMMV

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:09 PM (kXoT0)
drug test her as a condition of the loan

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 09:10 PM (0O7c5)

327 Oliver is British, for generations they've been raised from diapers to consider Socialism not just an effective system but the ONLY system, and anything else just horrific and a total failure.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 09:10 PM (39g3+)

328
A funny thing when it comes to the USA, tax withholding from the govt is the one thing that will bring down the full force and all barrels of the law. The one "crime" they will not tolerate because that is the whole purpose of govt anymore: Thievery.



Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2016 09:10 PM (ODxAs)

329
Heh. Thinks to self: I wonder which little DeVille that is?!? With the "mister" I think it has to be one of the boys.

If you make your boys do their own laundry and prepare their own food, good.

Nothing I can't stand anymore than an adult momma's boy.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:11 PM (/7JDl)

330 Jane, so sorry about difficulties with the son
Over time all kids come around eventually to understanding who their relatives truly are

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:11 PM (5p18q)

331
John Oliver is the biggest liar since Jon Stewart left the scene. Stewart wouldn't lie, exactly, but he did purposely disinform his gullible audience by oversimplifying things and omitting key pertinent facts.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:03 PM (/7JDl)

Plus he does it with a British accent, so you know he must be smrt!

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 09:12 PM (7qAYi)

332 My son is good. Huge heart, always helping others, told me tonight he was invited to sit at a table with non-militant LGBT students at lunch at his university, who hate the gay militants. He just gets along with everyone.

I am so sorely disappointed that my amazing, conservative parents died before they could affect his thinking. He's got my husband's idiot Barry-loving Mom and siblings, and my only sister.

So there's that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:12 PM (1ZOkK)

333 How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two
weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique
business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is
tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?

Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (v9E/c)


You don't, so don't give money, but you can always offer to help in different ways, e.g., offer to babysit the daughter from time to time while she is working on the store or something

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:13 PM (5p18q)

334 I like the idea of closing down the VA and giving veterans vouchers for medical care, that they could use with the doctors and hospitals of their choice.

But that would mean fewer government employees, so it will never fly.

Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

335 Oliver sometimes has some good stuff to say, but he's real bad about leaving out stuff that's inconvenient to the point he's making.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 09:13 PM (39g3+)

336 "...Stewart wouldn't lie, exactly, but he did purposely disinform his gullible audience by oversimplifying things and omitting key pertinent facts."

So in plain English he lied.

Posted by: harleycowboy at May 23, 2016 09:14 PM (+9AX9)

337 335
Oliver sometimes has some good stuff to say, but he's real bad about
leaving out stuff that's inconvenient to the point he's making.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 23, 2016 09:13 PM (39g3+)

You mean, kinda like his predecessor?

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:14 PM (5p18q)

338 I am so sorely disappointed that my amazing, conservative parents died before they could affect his thinking. He's got my husband's idiot Barry-loving Mom and siblings, and my only sister.

So there's that.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:12 PM (1ZOkK)

OK, he served in combat in the Marines with Obama as CiC and he still listens to Liberals? There's a disconnect there that you might try to understand.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:15 PM (kXoT0)

339
Did you see Don Ho?
Posted by: Mister Magoo


Or his sister Heidi?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 09:15 PM (k4M/B)

340 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 08:58 PM (kXoT0)

Ooh. Guess I'm lucky then.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 09:15 PM (AkOaV)

341 Did ya'll hear what the VA Sec. said today? Hold onto your butts.

He compared wait lists at the VA to waiting in hours long lines for rides at Disneyland.

You don't care how long you waited, you just want the wonderful results.


No fucking words.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:15 PM (1ZOkK)

342 324 How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?
Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (v9E/c)

If you give the money to her, instead of some bank or franchise, then it's a trick. If she said that you would be the owner, at least in name, and she would never see the money, then it's not a trick.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 23, 2016 09:16 PM (VdICR)

343
Don's sister Heidi?

Heidi Ho?

Oh get it! Ha!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:16 PM (/7JDl)

344
The best way to withhold is to cheat like a mofo. Hopefully yours won't get noticed for audit in the other 150 million returns.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 23, 2016 09:17 PM (ODxAs)

345 "...Stewart wouldn't lie, exactly, but he did purposely disinform his gullible audience by oversimplifying things and omitting key pertinent facts."

So in plain English he lied.
Posted by: harleycowboy at May 23, 2016 09:14 PM (+9AX9)

Stewart was a master at presenting truth that he wanted to discredit by acting like it was a lie with the rolling of eyes and mugging for the camera. With today's audiences having no critical thinking skills, it wasn't hard.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:17 PM (kXoT0)

346 334 I like the idea of closing down the VA and giving veterans vouchers for medical care, that they could use with the doctors and hospitals of their choice.

But that would mean fewer government employees, so it will never fly.
Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

I have a feeling that if you took the amount of VA spending per year and divided it by the number of eligible vets, we'd all be in awe at how inefficient government is.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 09:17 PM (AkOaV)

347 OK, he served in combat in the Marines with Obama as
CiC and he still listens to Liberals? There's a disconnect there that
you might try to understand.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:15 PM (kXoT0)


Well, he recognizes they're assholes and totally didn't respect his service, but as his dad pounds into his head, "THEY'RE FAMILY!!!!" "And Mom's family is mostly all dead!!!"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:17 PM (1ZOkK)

348 320 Hi all
tax revolt seems unlikely to work unless it was some massively organized effort
and then, even attempting to organize something can be prosecuted under RICO or the like
Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:08 PM (5p18q)
-----------------------
True, but tax avoidance, legal or otherwise, ...happens.
You don't have to have a centrally organized movement.
What you get is millions of individuals who, having lost respect for government, cut corners.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 23, 2016 09:19 PM (T/5A0)

349 How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?
Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 09:02 PM (v9E/c)



dont do it


its too big an ask right out of rehab and she knows it. She can work elsewhere. Shes just going to put it up her nose

Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 09:20 PM (zOTsN)

350 True, but tax avoidance, legal or otherwise, ...happens.

You don't have to have a centrally organized movement.

What you get is millions of individuals who, having lost respect for government, cut corners.


yeah, this is true.

time for the cash economy, I suppose

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:20 PM (5p18q)

351 Is the Midway at Hawaii? I don't even know.



Where's the Midway? The Midway is a battleship, right? What's the Midway?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:09 PM (/7JDl)


San Diego. It's an aircraft carrier.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 09:21 PM (oKE6c)

352 The Obama administration on Friday, the same day it ordered schools to allow students to use bathrooms or locker rooms matching their chosen gender identity, issued a directive that could pressure the nation's insurers, as well as federal programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, or providers through Obamacare marketplaces to cover sex change procedures.





What is it with Barry and gay or trannies? One could almost think he's obsessed with them. By February 2017 will we see Betty Obama?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 23, 2016 09:22 PM (45oDG)

353 San Diego. It's an aircraft carrier.


Very appropriate name, too.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 23, 2016 09:22 PM (bZ7mE)

354 yeah, this is true.

time for the cash economy, I suppose
Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:20 PM (5p18q)

*****

Driving a taxi can be a wonderful all cash proposition, if you have a work ethic, have customer service skills and work a good area. Just sayin'.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 09:23 PM (YLidQ)

355
Of course. I should've known that. It played an aircraft carrier in the movie, too.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:23 PM (/7JDl)

356 Husband has a niece in high school She has been in and out of rehab (while her dad parties, etc.)

Christmas day she was out of rehab, 16 years old, and had a full glass of white wine in her hand during the gift openings.

I was beyond stunned. My husband claimed he "didn't see," and yet she was in front of the whole lib family.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:23 PM (1ZOkK)

357 VA budget 2016 is $166 B. Responsible for 9 million vets. This comes out to $1537 per person per month.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 23, 2016 09:24 PM (VdICR)

358 The Stennis Carrier Group is anchored at Manilla.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at May 23, 2016 09:24 PM (3myMJ)

359 Well, he recognizes they're assholes and totally didn't respect his service, but as his dad pounds into his head, "THEY'RE FAMILY!!!!" "And Mom's family is mostly all dead!!!"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:17 PM (1ZOkK)

Joseph Mengele was someone's F-A-M-I-L-Y.

An Afghani women killed by her Father, Uncles, and Brothers for smiling at a Marine--that's her F-A-M-I-L-Y.

Family can be one of the greatest forces for good in the world or they can be just awful people you were stuck with by fate.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:24 PM (kXoT0)

360 355
Of course. I should've known that. It played an aircraft carrier in the movie, too.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:23 PM (/7JDl)



And the USS Harvey Milk is a garbage scow, or should be.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 09:24 PM (oKE6c)

361 In rehab at 16 years old?

That's sad

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 09:25 PM (5p18q)

362 The saddest thing is that, no matter,

.... you are subsidizing these fucking cretins.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at May 23, 2016 09:25 PM (Ycgco)

363 You can pick your friends & nose. You can't pick your family.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 09:25 PM (voOPb)

364
It's probably the most famous carrier, right? I should've remembered it's an aircraft carrier.

Isn't there still a famous carrier at Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:26 PM (/7JDl)

365 The Stennis Carrier Group is anchored at Manilla.
Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at May 23, 2016 09:24 PM (3myMJ)

Is that where they make the ice cream?

Posted by: Blano at May 23, 2016 09:26 PM (heN73)

366 Jay beat me to it, Magoo - Midway museum is in San Diego. Most successful ship museum in the world, I believe (by head-count and $$$$).


So, not a battleship. However, since you brought it up, a battleship - the USS Iowa - really should be in SD too. Would make a terrific one-two punch (Iowa-class are among the most successful ship museums as, well, as a "class"). And there's room.


But mainly because the Iowa was languishing where it is, in San Pedro - a decidedly non-tourist destination if there ever were one (gritty, working port). At least it was last time I checked.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2016 09:26 PM (QDnY+)

367 Midway played an island in the movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 09:26 PM (k4M/B)

368 Ugh. I'm so depressed thinking about idiot lib family.

Hoping son's Marine buddy and girlfriend make it back from the bar district tonight without something happening.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:26 PM (1ZOkK)

369 It was a stand-in for the USS Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 23, 2016 09:27 PM (VdICR)

370
The Arizona! Isn't that at Pearl Harbor? See, I do know my naval history.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:28 PM (/7JDl)

371 341 Did ya'll hear what the VA Sec. said today? Hold onto your butts.

He compared wait lists at the VA to waiting in hours long lines for rides at Disneyland.

You don't care how long you waited, you just want the wonderful results.


No fucking words.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:15 PM (1ZOkK)


I can remember seeing a sign that said 'Space Mountain 45 Minutes'...

I don't remember one saying "Space Mountain 2 years or until you are dead'...

Posted by: Don Q... waiting for Total War Warhammer to release... at May 23, 2016 09:28 PM (qf6WZ)

372 349 How do you tell if a cocaine addict with an 11 yo daughter out from two weeks of rehab and asking for a loan to restart her consignment boutique business is sincere in wanting to get her life on the right track or is tricking you out of the money in order to go on a binge?
Posted by: angela urkel
-----------------
Is she hot?
If yes, go ahead & make the loan, then give her my number.

Posted by: Chi at May 23, 2016 09:28 PM (YaSSM)

373 Time to leave for awhile

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 23, 2016 09:28 PM (voOPb)

374
The Arizona! Isn't that at Pearl Harbor? See, I do know my naval history.
Posted by: Mister Magoo


Yes, but it's hard to see.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 09:29 PM (k4M/B)

375 Family can be one of the greatest forces for good in the world or they can be just awful people you were stuck with by fate.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:24 PM (kXoT0)

I hated my in-laws (still do actually even though they're ex now). MIL treated my ex like shit and basically ignored my kids, while driving past our place to give attention to everybody else.

When everybody was doing the rosary/hail Mary chant at the funeral home in my mind I was repeating "burn in hell bitch, burn in hell bitch."

Eventually my kids understood my utter contempt for them.

Posted by: Blano at May 23, 2016 09:29 PM (heN73)

376 Is that where they make the ice cream?

Posted by: Blano at May 23, 2016 09:26 PM (heN73)

And tip your waitress, she's workin' hard for ya.

Posted by: Meremortal, Someone's French sucks at May 23, 2016 09:30 PM (3myMJ)

377 Midway played an island in the movie.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 09:26 PM


I thought the island was played by Brian Dennehey?

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 23, 2016 09:30 PM (KCxzN)

378 i love my mom.......she likes everything i post on facebook...everything.....even things she knows nothing about...but there she is liking it......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 23, 2016 09:30 PM (0O7c5)

379 Magoo, the USS Missouri is the famous museum/ship at Pearl. You know, where the emperor came out to sign the instrument of surrender in September 1945 (hat tip: loathsome lightweight affirmative action non-entity now defiling the WH).


Well, the USS Arizona is also there. Just as the Japanese left her on December 7, 1941. (serious thought was given to salvaging the Arizona for scrap - all the other sunken battleships were raised and most returned to WWII service - but dangers and cost-recovery were deemed not worth it).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2016 09:31 PM (QDnY+)

380 The Arizona! Isn't that at Pearl Harbor? See, I do know my naval history.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:28 PM (/7JDl)

"In" Pearl Harbor might be more correct than "at" Pearl Harbor, but yeah.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 23, 2016 09:31 PM (AkOaV)

381 Posted by: Blano at May 23, 2016 09:29 PM (heN73)

When I fought for full custody of my Kids??? The Ex's Sister and Mom backed ME.... not her....

That should tell you a bit about that situation right there...

Posted by: Don Q... waiting for Total War Warhammer to release... at May 23, 2016 09:31 PM (qf6WZ)

382 >>> Eventually my kids understood my utter contempt for them.

Daddy hates us, but he has a good reason.

Posted by: fluffy at May 23, 2016 09:32 PM (2hcmo)

383 Hey Jane, thanks for turning me on to the Black Rifle Coffee Company. I got a shipment on Saturday and discussed it in one of the morning threads.

Ace had a thread last week where we were talking about companies to boycott. This sounds like one worth supporting.

With the shipping, it's more expensive than the coffee I can buy at the store, but it takes me almost a month to go through a bag, so the extra expense isn't a big deal.

Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 09:32 PM (sdi6R)

384 Waiting for Obama to stop at the Arizona memorial, and take a grinning selfie with a bunch of Japanese tourists.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:33 PM (1ZOkK)

385 Eventually my kids understood my utter contempt for them.

Daddy hates us, but he has a good reason.
Posted by: fluffy at May 23, 2016 09:32 PM (2hcmo)

I hope this is snark. : )

For the record, my kids eventually understood why I hated my in-laws is what I meant.

Posted by: Blano at May 23, 2016 09:33 PM (heN73)

386 Hoping son's Marine buddy and girlfriend make it back from the bar district tonight without something happening.

Jane ...

... at some point, your boy has to stop letting Marine Buddies make their problems your problems. Or you have to stop enabling him to do so. Or you have to get comfortable running a Marine Buddy Shelter.

It's on you. Whatever you pick. But it's on you.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 23, 2016 09:33 PM (fiGNd)

387 Speaking of ice cream, only capital ships in WWII had ice-cream makers (carriers and battleships - correction desired if cruisers also had them).


The "price" for returning a rescued pilot to a carrier (usually by a destroyer - they had/have them positioned strategically to be able to recover ditched pilots near the carrier) used to be a few gallons of ice cream. Pilot would be winched over as the ice cream went the other direction. You can find photos of his.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2016 09:34 PM (QDnY+)

388 I've never seen any "consignment boutique" last more than a year. What's the expected income?

Posted by: Not Quite Dead Yet Jive Ass Soul Turkey at May 23, 2016 09:35 PM (BO/km)

389 383
Hey Jane, thanks for turning me on to the Black Rifle Coffee Company. I
got a shipment on Saturday and discussed it in one of the morning
threads.



Ace had a thread last week where we were talking about companies to boycott. This sounds like one worth supporting.



With the shipping, it's more expensive than the coffee I can buy at
the store, but it takes me almost a month to go through a bag, so the
extra expense isn't a big deal.

Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 09:32 PM (sdi6R)


THANK YOU! I'll let son know. He's fundraising chair for his campus vet group, and they've been great. Also, Nine Line (?) a company out of Savannah doing all vet things by vets.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:35 PM (1ZOkK)

390
316 In general I like Steven Crowder, but the 15-second spots in his podcast are military-grade unfunny.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 23, 2016 09:06 PM (VdICR)


The Bill Cosby spots get the fast forward treatment. I cannot stand them.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 23, 2016 09:35 PM (BK3ZS)

391 I wish it was as simple as not paying taxes.

However refusing to pay taxes turns into wage garnishments, bank garnishments, asset forfeitures, benefits seizures, loss of licensing - both professional and licenses to drive, fly and own various objects controlled by the state, attacks on credit ratings, issuing of liens against real property to prohibit sale and seeking loans against, and of course the long dance of lawfare and contempt charges putting you in prison.

And that is just avoiding the taxes that you have an option to pay or not pay, it doesn't count the ones upstream of you that are passed on to you in increased costs

I wish it were that simple.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2016 09:35 PM (ry34m)

392 Off you jive ass sock

Posted by: freaked at May 23, 2016 09:36 PM (BO/km)

393 If anyone is in Savannah, check out Service Brewery. My husband and I have done an event there, and they are great peeps.

Great beer, made by vets, owned by vets. And the Obama administration gave them a shout-out. Please, please, reverse Midas, let them be.

{{cringes}}

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:38 PM (1ZOkK)

394 I've never seen any "consignment boutique" last more than a year. What's the expected income?
Posted by: Not Quite Dead Yet Jive Ass Soul Turkey at May 23, 2016 09:35 PM (BO/km)

The ones that last are usually the ones where the owner has a trust fund or a spouse who can afford to keep the thing afloat.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:38 PM (kXoT0)

395 Openly refusing to pay your taxes does not seem like a good idea to me. Maybe it's different in France I heard they piss out in the street there.

Posted by: freaked at May 23, 2016 09:38 PM (BO/km)

396 >>> For the record, my kids eventually understood why I hated my in-laws is what I meant.

Yeah, I knew. Glad you took it in the spirit it was intended.

Got an ex, myself.

Posted by: fluffy at May 23, 2016 09:39 PM (2hcmo)

397
I just checked out a video of the Arizona's memorial site at Pearl Harbor. I've never seen it before. Interesting.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:39 PM (/7JDl)

398 I just checked out a video of the Arizona's memorial site at Pearl Harbor. I've never seen it before. Interesting.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:39 PM (/7JDl)


If you ever get a chance, do not miss seeing the Arizona Memorial in person. It is awe inspiring!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 23, 2016 09:42 PM (wYnyS)

399 Starting up a business is a very stressful thing for anyone, especially someone fresh out of rehab. Consignment means no regular income. It won't be a loan, it will be a gift. You will not see that money again no matter what. She can find a job that is more secure working for someone else. Keep the money. It won't help her.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 09:42 PM (zOTsN)

400 I just checked out a video of the Arizona's memorial site at Pearl Harbor. I've never seen it before. Interesting.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:39 PM (/7JDl)

As a kid, I used to live across the street ((the Kam hwy) from Pearl Harbor (military brat here). Japanese tourists at the Arizona memorial used to piss people off because they were grinning ear to ear. Turns out grinning is the Japanese reaction to embarrassment. It did not indicate amusement, as we interpreted it to mean.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 09:42 PM (oKE6c)

401 Peter Jackson's "Bad Taste". Sometimes you *can* judge a film by its title! The aliens are here visiting a remote New Zealand town so they can hunt humans for dinner.

I'm into 38 minutes, about where one of the MIBs fighting off the invasion has cracked his head open. So he finds a spare piece of his own brain, pops it back in and closes his skull again.

*smh*

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 23, 2016 09:43 PM (6FqZa)

402
If ever in Hawaii, I will definitely see the Arizona.

Turns out grinning is the Japanese reaction to embarrassment.

That's fucked up.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:44 PM (/7JDl)

403 Husband and I visited the Arizona Memorial about 29 years ago (spent Christmas in Hawaii).

The thing that drove us both crazy were the grinning Japanese tourists posing for pictures. And the looks on the old vets' faces.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:44 PM (1ZOkK)

404 I just checked out a video of the Arizona's memorial site at Pearl Harbor. I've never seen it before. Interesting.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:39 PM (/7JDl)

*****

I finally saw this in person 5 years ago. My Uncle was in a sub in the harbor during the attack. Never figured out why he went subs, as he was 6'7".

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 09:44 PM (YLidQ)

405
More of a grimace than a grin, I'd imagine.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:45 PM (/7JDl)

406 405


More of a grimace than a grin, I'd imagine.





Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:45 PM (/7JDl)


Actually, the young Japanese looked positively giddy. It was nauseating.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:46 PM (1ZOkK)

407
I finally saw this in person 5 years ago.

It never even occurred to me to go to Youtube (the next best thing to being there) to see videos of the memorial until 10 minutes ago. Maybe someday I'll go to Hawaii but I really don't think I want to be in a plane for, what, 9-10 hours?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:47 PM (/7JDl)

408 >>>What is it with Barry and gay or trannies? One could almost think he's obsessed with them. By February 2017 will we see Betty Obama?
Posted by: TheQuietMan <<<

When Barry was living in Indonesia, presumably (I haven't done the research) he had a tranny nanny that powdered his little butt and wiped his snotty little nose. I think he's sweet on the tranny thing because xhe was his surrogate mother, so to speak.

Posted by: Fritz at May 23, 2016 09:48 PM (f40FU)

409 Turns out grinning is the Japanese reaction to embarrassment.



That's fucked up.



Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:44 PM (/7JDl)
More of a grimace than a grin, I'd imagine.

No, not really, not a grimace. It's just a cultural thing. They beam to placate whoever they think they've offended, their way of nonverbally saying "no offense." It's just different from our culture, that's all.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 09:48 PM (oKE6c)

410 Oh this is too much...

Tommy Chong is in disbelief after he was disinvited by the Bernie Sanders campaign from introducing the presidential hopeful hours before a rally in East Los Angeles. 

Posted by: freaked at May 23, 2016 09:49 PM (BO/km)

411 Jay, if it's any consolation, I definitely smirked once or twice while visiting the Yasukuni shrine museum in Tokyo (the shrine with remains of Class A war criminals where the Jap PMs visit and the heathen Chineee and Koh-reans go ape s**t - on cue, as it were).


Great museum, actually.


Visited in 2007. One panel of text - on the battle for and conquest of Nanjing, ahemm - was, actually, hilariously bad. In both English and Japanese - my Japanese wife guffawed reading that version as I guffawed reading the English.


Something about (close paraphrase): "and then the Japanese Army broke the defenses, occupied the city, and life returned more to normal". For some definitions of "normal" - biological warfare experiments on the population, beheading contests, starvation, mass oppression, rapine, and looting.


Anyway, it was pretty amusing. So amusing that I read later the Chinese govt. had - oddly, through the US govt. and our embassy - requested a change to the text, which was quickly done when someone at the foreign ministry in Tokyo got wind of what it said.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2016 09:49 PM (QDnY+)

412 "If you ever get a chance, do not miss seeing the Arizona Memorial in person. It is awe inspiring!"


Pearl is on the Bucket List. It will be seen.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 09:50 PM (ORH8o)

413 It never even occurred to me to go to Youtube (the next best thing to being there) to see videos of the memorial until 10 minutes ago. Maybe someday I'll go to Hawaii but I really don't think I want to be in a plane for, what, 9-10 hours?

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:47 PM (/7JDl)

******

Depends on where you originate. Good rule of thumb is 5 hours from LAX. For me, from Atlanta, it was 9.5 hours in the air plus 2 hours layover at LAX.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 09:50 PM (YLidQ)

414 Actually, the young Japanese looked positively giddy. It was nauseating.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:46 PM (1ZOkK)

By our standards, yes. By theirs, no. I think you misinterpreted their reaction, and mistook profound embarrassment for amusement.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 09:50 PM (oKE6c)

415 Lena Dunham has released a book that is excerpts from her diary

Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 09:50 PM (zOTsN)

416 Once saw a bunch of young Japanese tourists come spilling out of a bus at the Iwo Jima memorial near DC right after a Marine got married there. They were taking pictures on one side while Marines in blues were milling about and before too long there were young US Marines posing for pictures with grinning Japanese tourists with the Iwo Jima memorial as backdrop. One of the damnedest things I've ever seen. Still don't know whethet to be charmed or disturbed by it.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 09:50 PM (OjM0b)

417
Things I'd like to see:

the pyramids
Hawaii
the Great Wall
Alaska
Normandy
Mt Rushmore

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:51 PM (/7JDl)

418
from Atlanta, it was 9.5 hours in the air plus 2 hours layover at LAX.

Yeah, I'm on the East Coast too.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:52 PM (/7JDl)

419 Pearl is on the Bucket List. It will be seen.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 09:50 PM (ORH8o)


Make up for our lack of support. Tell the grinning, smiling Japanese tourists to GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY and quit shooting selfies.


I still wish we had spoken up and said, "WTH???? What are you douchebags doing???"

However, manners.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 09:52 PM (1ZOkK)

420 'Lena Dunham has released a book that is excerpts from her diary'

Insane Ramblings Of A Pasty White Woman?

Posted by: freaked at May 23, 2016 09:53 PM (BO/km)

421
He believes all the shit his dad tells him about how awesome the evil old fake conservative bastard was. And how the evil bastard treated my family, me, and even our son.

Great evening.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:33 PM (1ZOkK)

We have a similar situation with my sister's inlaws and her son.

I think it's difficult for someone to face the idea that his grandmother is an evil bitch. Glossing over the bad stuff is what my nephew does. I had a grandma who loved me. He wants desperately to believe he had a grandma who loved him too - all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.

(Our mom died before he was born and would have really loved and spoiled him had she lived.)

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 23, 2016 09:54 PM (P8951)

422 Easy, Magoo. Break up your trip by stopping over in San Diego to see the ..... USS Midway.

(and the Aerospace Museum, and the Command Museum at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot, and Flying Leathernecks Museum at Miramar, and the artillery/vehicle museum at Camp Pendleton, and the coastal artillery museum at Pt. Loma, and ....)

Posted by: rhomboid at May 23, 2016 09:55 PM (QDnY+)

423
Tokyo would be nice to see, too.

I really have no desire to see the Middle East, even if it was peaceful. Africa, too. Too hot and poor. No Russia.

I would like to see the nicer parts of Spain, too. And the northern European countries.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:56 PM (/7JDl)

424 Things I'd like to see:
the pyramids
Hawaii
the Great Wall
Alaska
Normandy
Mt Rushmore
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:51 PM

I like you list, tho I'm skipping the pyramids. I'd like to live longer. A few others I'd add, but the top one is Hillary in jail!

Posted by: Farmer at May 23, 2016 09:57 PM (o/90i)

425
Even though I said I don't want to go to Africa and listed the Pyramids, I'd make an exception for Egypt. But no where else in Africa.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:58 PM (/7JDl)

426 What is this taxes u speak of?

Posted by: Manuel Labor at May 23, 2016 09:59 PM (ar6HD)

427 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at May 23, 2016 09:59 PM (LA47p)

428
The pyramids impress me for some reason. They were, after all, landing pads for Ga'uld mother ships.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 09:59 PM (/7JDl)

429 Not making excuses for the young smiling Japanese tourists, but they probably don't know much about their own history.

In contrast to the Germans, who are in the process of committing national suicide to expiate their war guilt, the Japanese government has largely swept their wartime atrocities under the carpet and don't teach about them.

Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 09:59 PM (sdi6R)

430 Worst Japanese experience in Hawaii.

So, husband and I go to (I can't remember name of beach on Oahu), and the dressing rooms were manned by Japanese women who WOULD NOT ALLOW ME IN TO CHANGE CLOTHES.

They kept smiling, bowing, and pushing me away.

FINALLY, I told them, "I'm an American citizen, and I'm coming in to change clothes."

They just grinned stupidly and bowed and "allowed" me to enter.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 10:00 PM (1ZOkK)

431 I'd really like to visit Prague and Rome and Florence.

When I was younger, i wanted to visit Bali and Thailand but that does not appeal to me very much any more. Far too humid and muggy and face sized spiders.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 23, 2016 10:00 PM (P8951)

432 "Normandy "



Yes, and Belleau Wood. Someone here one time wrote up an amazing trip report on visiting the place.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 10:01 PM (ORH8o)

433 89 They are not meekly accepting the destruction of their children due to the policies of the government they support with their taxes? But Monsieur Hollande used some pretty strong language when it occurred!


Maybe they're not as suicidal a society as previously shown. Maybe there's a spark of life among the ashes. Not like in Israel, but there nevertheless.
Posted by: angela urkel at May 23, 2016 07:41 PM (v9E/c)



Hollande will take this more seriously than Obama would.

Posted by: BuddyPC at May 23, 2016 10:01 PM (mIQJh)

434 I went to the Arizona Memorial in 1968 on a class trip. Dad was stationed at Hickham. I still remember what it was like being there, and the oil still seeping up out of it. I have heard that it still is.

Posted by: freaked at May 23, 2016 10:02 PM (BO/km)

435
394 I've never seen any "consignment boutique" last more than a year. What's the expected income?
Posted by: Not Quite Dead Yet Jive Ass Soul Turkey at May 23, 2016 09:35 PM (BO/km)

The ones that last are usually the ones where the owner has a trust fund or a spouse who can afford to keep the thing afloat.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at May 23, 2016 09:38 PM (kXoT0)






Or an "alternate" source of income......like drug dealing from the storefront.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 23, 2016 10:02 PM (LuZz8)

436
Prague is a good pick, too.

Venice seems appealing but I suspect the place is a filthy mess.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 10:02 PM (/7JDl)

437 Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 09:48 PM (oKE6c)

I had a hell of a time with my Japanese auto policy holders. If they got in an accident, even if the other party was 100% at fault , they would apologize profusely.

The at fault drivers would try to use that apology to claim my policy holder admitted fault.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 23, 2016 10:02 PM (MNgU2)

438 Hickam not ham

Posted by: freaked at May 23, 2016 10:03 PM (BO/km)

439 When I was younger, i wanted to visit Bali and Thailand but that does not appeal to me very much any more. Far too humid and muggy and face sized spiders.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 23, 2016 10:00 PM (P8951)

****

That is too bad. I visited the Country north of Bangkok when I was there. It is in serious consideration for a retirement destination.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 10:04 PM (YLidQ)

440 This was the first time I'm realizing that snowflakes are actually shaped like snowflakes. I always thought it was an a tract thing like drawings of hearts

Lena Dunham in college

Posted by: ThunderB at May 23, 2016 10:05 PM (zOTsN)

441
Let's add Hong Kong to the list, too.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 10:05 PM (/7JDl)

442 South Africa is incredible and beautiful.

The American dollar is strong there. A bottle of expensive wine in their wine country ran $6.

Gorgeous country, rampant poverty, post-Mendela corrupt administration.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 10:05 PM (1ZOkK)

443
Depends on where you originate. Good rule of thumb is 5 hours from LAX. For me, from Atlanta, it was 9.5 hours in the air plus 2 hours layover at LAX.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 09:50 PM (YLidQ)







And those two hours in LAX feel LONGER than the 9+ hours in the air.

Yes, I fucking despise LAX.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 23, 2016 10:06 PM (LuZz8)

444 Fun fact - the last person executed by guillotine was a muslim, Hamida Djandoubi, in 1977

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)


Just as he was starting to get ahead in life, too...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2016 10:07 PM (49Lge)

445 "It is in serious consideration for a retirement destination."



Really? What are land prices?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 10:07 PM (ORH8o)

446 Well, it looks like the rain as dampened the yoots' enthusiasm for mayhem in Baltimore tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 10:08 PM (1ZOkK)

447 And those two hours in LAX feel LONGER than the 9+ hours in the air.

Yes, I fucking despise LAX.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 23, 2016 10:06 PM (LuZz

*****

No doubt. In my time traveling, I have prolly spent 2 weeks out of my life waiting at LAX.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 10:08 PM (YLidQ)

448
You time traveled? Do tell.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 10:09 PM (/7JDl)

449 About 10 years ago, a vet I know told me about what sounds like a great place to stay in france. It's a B & B and the owner is a British military historian who wrote a book about snipers. The B & B is near WWI battlefields in Picardy and the guy and his wife take guests on a guided motorcycle tour.

My friend said it was one of the best vacations ever. Apparently the affable owner, a font of information, gets a lot of US and British vets as guests and treats them very well.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 23, 2016 10:10 PM (P8951)

450 Off to bed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 10:10 PM (1ZOkK)

451 Hey everybody.

MWNP, I *refuse* to fly out of or into LAX. I'd so much rather go to LGB or John Wayne Airport, it's not even funny.

I'll even accept not being able to go non-stop, just to avoid LAX.

Only downside for me, until I lose some weight, if I ever have to fly, I'm gonna have to purchase two seats.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 23, 2016 10:10 PM (ntObR)

452
You time traveled? Do tell.
Posted by: Mister Magoo


Not I.

Posted by: ManWithNoTardis at May 23, 2016 10:11 PM (k4M/B)

453
Fun fact - the last person executed by guillotine was a muslim, Hamida Djandoubi, in 1977

Posted by: Josephistan at May 23, 2016 07:24 PM (7qAYi)


Just as he was starting to get ahead in life, too...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2016 10:07 PM (49Lge)






Life is tough when you stick your neck out....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 23, 2016 10:13 PM (LuZz8)

454 "I'd so much rather go to LGB or John Wayne Airport"


John Wayne is a neat little airport. Quick in/out. Fairly easy to get to.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 10:13 PM (ORH8o)

455 The Russian government has declassified a bunch of photos of their early rockets and their space dogs.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/g2619/ussr-space-dogs-photos/

In the early days of the Space Age before humans went into space, the US used monkeys and chimpanzees as test subjects, while the Russians used dogs.

There's even a picture of a doggeh space suit.

Posted by: rickl at May 23, 2016 10:13 PM (sdi6R)

456 Ugh.feeling a migraine coming on - better take my Zomig and Imitrix and see if I can head it off before it becomes hellish. Sometimes I can. Goodnight, horde.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 23, 2016 10:14 PM (P8951)

457 Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at May 23, 2016 10:00 PM (P8951)

I've only seen it from the air in a helicopter but OMG it's beautiful. We did have to spend some time in Pattya Beach and then Singapore so it wasn't a total loss.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 23, 2016 10:14 PM (QDVFm)

458 Really? What are land prices?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 10:07 PM (ORH8o)

****

This is where it gets tricky. You have to put 3 million Baht ($100k) on deposit. That is a 4 year old exchange number.

Then, being an American, you have to pay a Thai house finding service to buy a place. If they find out the buyer is American, price goes up 5x.

For a Thai transaction, a 2/2 nice little house goes for about 20k U.S. House buyer agency fee is another 3-5k, whatever you can negotiate.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 10:15 PM (YLidQ)

459 And the reason I flew out of John Wayne in January. It was also nice that it took less than 20 mins. to get there. Of course, It was 4:30 am on a Sat. Don't think I have been to LAX since the mid 80's.

Posted by: Infidel at May 23, 2016 10:15 PM (iQrD3)

460
oh for fuck's sake, speaking of San Diego

the San Diego Padres fired one of their (entertainment?) contractors today because of a mistake made that prevented the San Diego Gay Men's Chorus from singing the National Anthem. (You have no idea how difficult that sentence was for me to type.)

The San Diego Gay Men's Chorus was prepared to sing the national anthem Saturday when a recorded voice of a woman singing came over the loudspeakers. When the song ended, the 100 members were escorted off the field and were heckled by a number of fans in the stands.

Bob Lehman, the chorus' executive director, said in a statement earlier Sunday that the incident raised "serious questions about homophobia within the San Diego Padres organization and its relationship with the LGBT community."



WHO FUCKING GIVES A FUCKING FUCK YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 10:16 PM (/7JDl)

461
She packed my bones last night pre flight
Zero hour nine a.m.
And I'm gonna be high, as a cat by then
I miss the earth so much, I miss my ball
It's lonely out in space

Posted by: Rocket Dog at May 23, 2016 10:17 PM (k4M/B)

462 Ricardo and Infidel, yup.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 23, 2016 10:18 PM (ntObR)

463 Padres pitching staff stinks too.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 10:18 PM (OjM0b)

464 This is too funny
The bar I am at, has been playing one 80's song after another
now it is Paula Abdul

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 10:19 PM (5p18q)

465 Meanwhile, the Chicago PD is using an algorithm to try and predict who will get shot or be the shooter. They claim an 80% accuracy rate.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hwr63kq

Lawsuit about it being racist in 5, 4, 3 ...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2016 10:19 PM (6TBbF)

466 ChemJeff, straight up now tell me...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2016 10:19 PM (6TBbF)

467 You time traveled? Do tell.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 10:09 PM (/7JDl)

*****

Dude. I used the correct punctuation.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 23, 2016 10:19 PM (YLidQ)

468 Why can't my son and husband understand that I do what I do out of love?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 23, 2016 08:39 PM (1ZOkK)


Jane, this is my only serious comment of this 24 hour period.

We can make people hate us, we can make people fear us, we can make people uncomfortable, we can make people avoid us.

We can never make people be grateful to us no matter how hard we try.

In the end we do what we do for ourselves - and that includes doing things for people we love, and those bastards often never even say thank you.

You can't make people be grateful, and if you try hard enough you will make them avoid you.

Sorry. It hurts me too.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 23, 2016 10:19 PM (ry34m)

469
Why not just make the San Diego Chicken a homo while they're at it.

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 23, 2016 10:20 PM (/7JDl)

470 Paula Abdul was just one in my long line of hopeless celebrity crushes.

Others: Donna Pescow; Connie Sellecca (mild); Justine Bateman; Monica Lewinsky; Mila Kunis.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 23, 2016 10:21 PM (ntObR)

471 466
ChemJeff, straight up now tell me...


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2016 10:19 PM (6TBbF)

that's the one

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 10:21 PM (5p18q)

472 I also had major crushes on Sabrina the teenage witch, and Penelope Pitstop.

My teenage love life was, yes, pathetic. ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 23, 2016 10:21 PM (ntObR)

473 and no, it's not going to be you and me forever
yes it is a hit and run

Posted by: chemjeff at May 23, 2016 10:22 PM (5p18q)

474 Corgies!

Posted by: Infidel at May 23, 2016 10:22 PM (iQrD3)

475 Giants are on a streak. Padres have no hope.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2016 10:24 PM (EZebt)

476
Why not just make the San Diego Chicken a homo while they're at it.
Posted by: Mister Magoo


It was already a commie when it was the KGB Chicken.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 23, 2016 10:24 PM (k4M/B)

477 Meme just now seen at FB:

"Sex with a 50-year-old woman is much like sex with a 20-year old woman, but far less likely to result in child support payments."

I commented: "Yes, but you're 70% more likely to hear the phrase, 'Oww! My good hip!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 23, 2016 10:25 PM (ntObR)

478 ... prevented the San Diego Gay Men's Chorus from singing the National Anthem.
-------------

Did they cry? Because it sounds like a group of crybabies.

Now they have just a slight sense of how I felt when Obama painted the White House in rainbow colors.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2016 10:26 PM (ZxmMG)

479 "This is where it gets tricky."


That's is a pain.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 10:26 PM (ORH8o)

480 That one Paula Abdul video...Cold Hearted...used to race home from school to maximize time and viewing opportunities on mtv/vh1 before mom and dad got home. Good old days. Kids these days with their electronic porn machines are really missing out.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 23, 2016 10:27 PM (OjM0b)

481 "Justine Bateman; Monica Lewinsky; Mila Kunis."


Monica Lewinsky....?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 10:27 PM (ORH8o)

482 Paula Abdul was probably the worst celeb crush I ever had, she was *always* in tights. Same as Nancy Kerrigan (who I forgot to list above).

I spent a lot of time in my bunk in 1989 and 1994...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 23, 2016 10:28 PM (ntObR)

483 Ricardo, yes. Don't laugh.

I'm one of these weirdos who thought (and still thinks) she's reasonably attractive. I'd still like to meet her someday.

Yes, I know I have no chance, same as with Mila. Oh well.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 23, 2016 10:29 PM (ntObR)

484 There is an ONT, by the by.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 23, 2016 10:33 PM (ORH8o)

485 the San Diego Padres fired one of their (entertainment?) contractors
today because of a mistake made that prevented the San Diego Gay Men's
Chorus from singing the National Anthem. (You have no idea how difficult
that sentence was for me to type.)



Good thing no one watches the Padres, despite their being the best AAA team in MLB.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 23, 2016 11:19 PM (oKE6c)

486 The amount of Frenchmen slaughtered at the Somme and Verdun should make these parents think twice about whether the French government cares about their dead children. It's been a hundred years but the French government is amazingly the same.

Posted by: torabora at May 24, 2016 02:21 PM (eHr4I)

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