Mitch McConnell Again Conspires to Defeat a Conservative Legislation, and Provide Cover to Liberal Democrats and Liberal Republicans

This is why Trump happened.

Posted by: Ace at 01:08 PM

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1 Ayup.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:09 PM (pC96u)

2 The form of the Destroyer has been chosen

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 20, 2016 01:10 PM (8CZHh)

3 Carried over from the last thread, cuz totes relevant:

AFFH

http://tinyurl.com/haw8dul

Another hill not worth dying on. Unbelievable.

To hell with the GOP. It can't die fast enough.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:10 PM (8ZskC)

4 Bastage Supreme Lord Mcconnell

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at May 20, 2016 01:10 PM (dQJCS)

5 Comedy gold, Chicago Jerry!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2016 01:10 PM (PLnZs)

6 It's TurboMan TrumpMan time!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 20, 2016 01:11 PM (JO9+V)

7
Is it reversible?

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:11 PM (pC96u)

8 Yes, Levin may have mentioned this in passing last night.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2016 01:12 PM (zoehZ)

9 What's more mystifying and discouraging about this is the utter political stupidity of the tactics employed by the GOP Senate leadership.

Uh, that's not really so mystifying at this point...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:12 PM (8ZskC)

10 Now I am become Trump, destroyer of bloated oligarchy

Posted by: Robert Oppenheimer at May 20, 2016 01:12 PM (WoSlu)

11 Turtle power!

Posted by: Old-Age Mutant Senate Turtle at May 20, 2016 01:12 PM (H9MG5)

12 Stupid fingers! That was supposed to be:

It's ~~TurboMan~~ TrumpMan time!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 20, 2016 01:12 PM (JO9+V)

13
SCUM.

The term RINO is now no longer applicable. It is evident from this insanity that the GOP-e is in fact a wing of or crypto-Democats.

I have resisted it for as long as possible, but we now need, not a third party, but an actual second OPPOSITION party to fight these fucks.

If it means the wilderness for a while, so be it. Better to have a driven, committed minority making the case in a lost cause then a phony majority working to sabotage us and carry the water of the Democrat Left.

WAR-WAR-WAR.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:13 PM (p4UlV)

14 I need to ask Rob Portman why he voted for this. Then ask him how many of these are being built in his neighborhood.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 20, 2016 01:13 PM (FQKBL)

15
http://tinyurl.com/haw8dul

Another hill not worth dying on. Unbelievable.

To hell with the GOP. It can't die fast enough.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:10 PM (8ZskC)
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>>The House may pass an AFFH defund measure; it did last year with the Gosar Amendment. This year could be different, though, because Paul Ryan, the bleeding heart conservative, is now Speaker.

Thank you, you dumbshit Wisconsin Republicans.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:13 PM (pC96u)

16 We must execute a decapitaion strike against Ryan and McConnel.

The Democrats are no longer our main enemies per se.

The GOP must be destroyed.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 20, 2016 01:13 PM (Pwq5h)

17 Oops. Should be:

SENATE REPUBLICANS BLOCK LEE AMENDMENT, PRESERVE AFFH

http://tinyurl.com/haw8dul

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:13 PM (8ZskC)

18 Comedy gold, Chicago Jerry!
............
What?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 20, 2016 01:13 PM (so+oy)

19 On a lighter note (because I will seriously blow a gasket if I think too much about it), APOD is cool today.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2016 01:14 PM (zoehZ)

20 I get following the money to understand inexplicable behavior and the malign influence of lobbyist money. But what benefits could allowing this malignant government rule possibly confer?

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at May 20, 2016 01:14 PM (dQJCS)

21 rickl, "That's no moon...."

Homer Simpson and many of the Horde are going "bewbs"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 20, 2016 01:15 PM (8CZHh)

22 I can't think of a single piece of legislation that the GOP controlled Congress has passed, or action that they have taken, that increased my personal freedom, enhanced the future of my family, or made me safer!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 01:15 PM (wYnyS)

23 Giving political cover to Democrats. Bowing to the dictates of the most liberal members of the caucus. Splitting the party. It's what the GOP leadership does so expertly. And yet again, they've outdone themselves.

But just make sure you don't embarrass yourself by voting for a baboon like Trump when there's JEB! on the ballot.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:16 PM (8ZskC)

24 16 We must execute a decapitaion strike against Ryan and McConnel.

The Democrats are no longer our main enemies per se.

The GOP must be destroyed.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 20, 2016 01:13 PM (Pwq5h)

Pro Tip for Arizona and Nevada Morons: McStains and the Nevada asshole have opponents in the primary.

Start there. I can't believe Trump won Indiana and yet the voters who handed him that victory denied it to Stutzman and gave it to McCocksickle's lackey.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:16 PM (p4UlV)

25 They have no clue.
In their own arrogance, they have lost touch with America.

Trump? #HellYeah!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2016 01:16 PM (r65B3)

26
http://tinyurl.com/haw8dul

Another hill not worth dying on. Unbelievable.

To hell with the GOP. It can't die fast enough.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:10 PM (8ZskC)
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>>The other way to stop AFFH is by electing a president who will overturn the regulation.

I bet Trump comes out for it and then against it. Jes' my sense of things.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (pC96u)

27 20 I get following the money to understand inexplicable behavior and the malign influence of lobbyist money. But what benefits could allowing this malignant government rule possibly confer?
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at May 20, 2016 01:14 PM (dQJCS)

See me at 13. Two sides of the same coin. One wants to destroy the country, the other wants to make a buck off of it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (p4UlV)

28 Mitt Romney can see the logic of this move.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (8ZskC)

29 Guys, what do you expect? They only have 2/3 of 1/3 of the federal government!

You're all being patently unreasonable. What we really need to do is give them more money and get more of them elected. Then when they have the presidency for 30 years in a row, and have been able to appoint all 9 supreme court justices, all while controlling congress, they'll be able to start enacting a conservative agenda. Anything else and you're just asking for miracles.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (KUaJL)

30 If I ever talked politics with Democrats anymore, I think I'd have to ask them: Is there at last anything that is not the business of the federal government?

Posted by: JPS at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (mH5lL)

31 It sounds to me like the goal of the Uniparty is to consolidate all power in DC.

And it's utterly ridiculous to speak of "Democrats" and "Republicans" at this point. They are in it together.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (zoehZ)

32 Sure we could have voted against it. But now we have an election issue!

Besides, we don't do anything for the right for free.

Posted by: GOPe at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (PNcou)

33 Comedy gold, Chicago Jerry!
............
What?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

The powers of trump the terrible are awesome to behold. he single handedly compells the GOP leadership to shit the bed in a year when they are defending 6 seats.

Sooooo, them losing will be all his fault.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:18 PM (326rv)

34 26
http://tinyurl.com/haw8dul

Another hill not worth dying on. Unbelievable.

To hell with the GOP. It can't die fast enough.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:10 PM (8ZskC)
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>>The other way to stop AFFH is by electing a president who will overturn the regulation.

I bet Trump comes out for it and then against it. Jes' my sense of things.
Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (pC96u)

The problem is that these regulations, once enacted are very difficult if not impossible for the next chief executive to reverse. That's why Obama is operating at light speed until 11:59:59AM on 1/20/17.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:18 PM (p4UlV)

35 Is it reversible?

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:11 PM (pC96u)

Ratchet effect: always works for liberal edicts, but never can be applied to any conservative results!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 01:18 PM (wYnyS)

36
At the risk of repeating myself, McConnell doesn't give a fuck because there is absolutely no downside to his actions.

Outrage from the conservatives? Fuck them - they're all a bunch of wackobirds. And how many votes do they have?

Get voted out of office? So what - he's got plenty of sweet, sweet consulting / board-of-directors / lobbyist gigs lined up for that day.

Citizen outrage? Fuck them - what are they going to do, vote him out of office? See point #2.

As D-Lamp pointed out in re the press, until there are actual, real-world, painful consequences for shafting the right, this will continue to happen.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (X6fMO)

37 There's always a Gopey "but, but" with this type of thing though. Sure, it looks like a cave to Obama, BUUUUUTT, it's some small sliver of improvement over what Obama wanted.

So yeah, I don't care to hear how, at this point, Trump is worse than Gope. Or that he is Gope.

What he MIGHT be or do, compared to what Gope has been doing for years and years and years = Advantage Trump.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (TOk1P)

38 Well, it is apparent that this is not our Hill to die on.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (OxUnq)

39 Is it reversible?

Posted by: iforgot

Yupper. Right after they shitcan the light bulb ban.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (326rv)

40 Something like this isn't even an unforced error.

When you're playing defense, you don't turn around and start throwing blocks on your own guys to help them run the ball.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (KUaJL)

41 36 As D-Lamp pointed out in re the press, until there are actual, real-world, painful consequences for shafting the right, this will continue to happen.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (X6fMO)

These assholes in DC are damn lucky that we do not have death squads in this country. Anywhere else, and they'd be doing the Mussolini/Claretta swing by now.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (p4UlV)

42 It's called "bipartisanship", you right wing Tea Bagger maniacs!!!

Posted by: Senator Mitch "The Bitch" McConnell at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (YFFpo)

43 Geee.... lets see...

Those in Power in the Federal Government, vote to give themselves MORE power...

How is that ANY surprise?

When the only remaining check on Federal Power, is the Federal Government itself, you will eventually have a tyranny...

Especially when the only real check on Federal Power, is 9 LAWYERS appointed by that same Federal Government...

Posted by: Don Q at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (qf6WZ)

44
20 I get following the money to understand inexplicable behavior and the malign influence of lobbyist money. But what benefits could allowing this malignant government rule possibly confer?

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at May 20, 2016 01:14 PM (dQJCS)
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There must be some, whether it's money or image.

Or maybe they believe that the federal government should be a zoning authority for every American neighborhood.

Perhaps some enterprising journalist could sniff this out.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (pC96u)

45 As a constitutionalist, it appears that I am the RINO.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (t/FZM)

46 Irish Democracy, bitches - it's the only hope left for decent folks.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (lutOX)

47 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (p4UlV)

I'm beginning to understand Marx's comment about capitalists and rope sales!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (wYnyS)

48 >>>This is why Trump happened.

Thus of the very ancient city of lb was nothing spared, save the sea-green stone idol chiseled in the likeness of Bokrug, the water-lizard. This the young warriors took back with them as a symbol of conquest over the old gods and beings of Th, and as a sign of leadership in Mnar. But on the night after it was set up in the temple, a terrible thing must have happened, for weird lights were seen over the lake, and in the morning the people found the idol gone and the high-priest Taran-Ish lying dead, as from some fear unspeakable. And before he died, Taran-Ish had scrawled upon the altar of chrysolite with coarse shaky strokes the sign of DOOM.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (0q2P7)

49 I can't even put into words how much I hate these f'ing people.

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (Hd08M)

50 "But what benefits could allowing this malignant government rule possibly confer?"

The Feds are out of money. They are looking to confiscate State and Local money. Lot of vig there.

Posted by: huh? at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (j2xmV)

51 39 Is it reversible?

Posted by: iforgot

Yupper. Right after they shitcan the light bulb ban.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (326rv)

Unfortunately, it's not that easy to reverse. And although the light bulb ban might be overturned, all a the manufacturers have destroyed all the production lines to go back into business.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (p4UlV)

52 Is there at last anything that is not the business of the federal government?

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millions of dead fetuses

Posted by: democrats at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (PNcou)

53 Did the burn, scatter, salt guy get banned?

Posted by: Meremortal, takes the wine at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (3myMJ)

54 Perhaps some enterprising journalist could sniff this out.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (pC96u)

Enterprising journalist?

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

*gaaaassp*

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:22 PM (8ZskC)

55 Wonder what bathroom Bitch McConnell and the rest of the LBGOP uses?

Posted by: 'cause it sure shouldn't be the men's room at May 20, 2016 01:22 PM (H9MG5)

56 The GOP has not learned ONE. DAMN. THING. from everything that's gone on the past several years.

Fcuk them to Hell.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 20, 2016 01:22 PM (LA7Cm)

57 The powers of trump the terrible are awesome to behold. he single handedly compells the GOP leadership to shit the bed in a year when they are defending 6 seats.

Sooooo, them losing will be all his fault.
Posted by: Blue Hen
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I don't follow your tortured logic.. But the GOP is defending a lot more than 6 seats..
At least there won't be many coattails for Dems either this year.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 20, 2016 01:22 PM (so+oy)

58 And naturally Tennessee's two corrupt, lazy, center-left alleged Republican chucklefucks voted the wrong way again.

I swear, if I had the money I would run against one of those two idiots myself. I will never understand why such a conservative state elects such consistently goofy leftist Senators. Probably some psychological legacy of all those Blue Dog Democrat years with the Gore family and such.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at May 20, 2016 01:22 PM (m95ts)

59 One by no means has to have actually spent years inside the beast to appreciate just how pathetic - or hollow, or disingenuous, or insincere - the GOP's antics have been since they were handed majorities in both houses. But it helps.

And then sometimes the lack of actual understanding does prevent a serious analysis. When Cruz did his lone brief filibuster against O-care in '13, even this place was full of silly and off-point "analysis" (comments, mostly, not posts). Ridiculous predictions of GOP electoral doom (of course completely discredited by the '14 mid-term results), but more importantly, complete failure to understand differentiation.

Differentiation is the most fundamental part of fighting the D/R national battle, esp. in the Senate, vs. the House where voter behavior is more localized and now mostly irrelevant due to bipartisan redistricting aimed at creating a maximum of safe seats.

For many years, almost all Senate floor activity aimed at setting up differentiation events, votes where one side could post its flag, or alternately paint the other side, on key issues.

Tepid, dishonest "opposition" to insane, unpopular, unconstitutional policies (such as this latest, this truly breath-taking housing thing) is exactly what produced Trump. Bold colors, not pale pastels, is *not* a macho slogan - it is an ice-cold rational analysis of how public opinion is swayed and how elections are won and governance is changed.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2016 01:23 PM (QDnY+)

60 41 36 As D-Lamp pointed out in re the press, until there are actual, real-world, painful consequences for shafting the right, this will continue to happen.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (X6fMO)

These assholes in DC are damn lucky that we do not have death squads in this country. Anywhere else, and they'd be doing the Mussolini/Claretta swing by now.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:20 PM (p4UlV)

Uh... painful real world consequences???

Your honor? may I submit into evidence ObamaCare? Which has painfully impacted the middle Class the most...

Yet... no real consequences for the GOP not doing a damn thing to stop it?

Yes... a couple of the Deck chairs on the Titanic were shuffled.... a couple of Guys were forced into the lifeboat early.... but other than that?

The same damn basic leadership is in place...

Posted by: Don Q at May 20, 2016 01:23 PM (qf6WZ)

61 Is it reversible?

Posted by: iforgot

Yupper. Right after they shitcan the light bulb ban.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:19 PM (326rv)

Unfortunately, it's not that easy to reverse. And although the light bulb ban might be overturned, all a the manufacturers have destroyed all the production lines to go back into business.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

It's 19th century technology.

Any manufacturer who wanted to could ramp this up, and Walmart would sell it, and it would become the #1 selling bulb in the country within weeks.

That's why they made lightbulbs illegal. there was no other way to kill them except for shutting off the power.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:23 PM (326rv)

62 can Trump just zone that DC must have a 60% muslim population?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 20, 2016 01:24 PM (PNcou)

63
The problem is that these regulations, once enacted are very difficult if not impossible for the next chief executive to reverse. That's why Obama is operating at light speed until 11:59:59AM on 1/20/17.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:18 PM (p4UlV)
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I've heard that so many times, but why? Just because the clients get entrenched, it's bad publicity to take money away, etc? Or is it a legal obstacle course?

While we're at it, how hard would it be for Trump's SecDef to reverse that idiotic girl-empowering military that's on its way?

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:24 PM (pC96u)

64 Did McConnell give any reason why the federal govt should decide where housing is built, or...inserted as it were?

And can the state say no, or will they lose their funding?

The question comes up again, why do we even have a congress and so-called "sovereign" states?

Posted by: Meremortal, take the wine at May 20, 2016 01:24 PM (3myMJ)

65 Is there at last anything that is not the business of the federal government?

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millions of dead fetuses
Posted by: democrats at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (PNcou)

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Hillary's emails. Louis Lerner's targeting political opponents in the IRS. The VA's medical treatment of veterans. Tracking the guns they sold to mexican cartels. Enforcing our borders.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 20, 2016 01:24 PM (KUaJL)

66 I could have been a contender!

Posted by: Mitch mcConnels' turkey neck at May 20, 2016 01:25 PM (Ffw22)

67 Yet... no real consequences for the GOP not doing a damn thing to stop it?

HEY NOW! We had a vote on it and everything!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at May 20, 2016 01:25 PM (8ZskC)

68 Is there at last anything that is not the business of the federal government?

In one of his rare lucid moments, George Will posed a great, and thus unasked, question for Supreme Court appointees during the confirmation process, namely, "Can you name one thing you encounter in your daily life that is not in some way regulated by the Federal Government?"

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 01:25 PM (wYnyS)

69 We are doomed...

http://weaponsman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Gay-Pride-Month.jpg

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at May 20, 2016 01:25 PM (ucB75)

70 I don't follow your tortured logic.. But the GOP is defending a lot more than 6 seats..
At least there won't be many coattails for Dems either this year.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

You were the one claiming that red states were turning blue because of trump, "single handedly". Despite his own PR, he is NOT the only force in politics in this or any other election cycle.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:25 PM (326rv)

71
The terms "hill" and "die on" are not to be used in the same sentence.

-- GOPe Rules of Spinnagery

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2016 01:26 PM (BK3ZS)

72 I would like to see some of their bullshit excuses for how they voted. My BP has been a bit on the low side lately.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 20, 2016 01:26 PM (PNcou)

73 And can the state say no, or will they lose their funding?

The question comes up again, why do we even have a congress and so-called "sovereign" states?

The problem is that the feds suck out far more in tax money from the citizens of the states than the actual states do, and then they use that money as a lever to force the states to do its insane bidding. This has to stop.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:26 PM (8ZskC)

74 If you like your peaceful neighborhood you can keep your peaceful neighborhood.

Assfuckingholes.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 20, 2016 01:26 PM (LdVxD)

75 How ironic that the Senator from a state that hates Boston and Massachusetts, rubberstamps an amendment to make Maine a suburb of Boston.

Her next brilliant move is to leave her keys in her car.

Posted by: Wendy at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (bpemY)

76 I've heard that so many times, but why? Just because the clients get entrenched, it's bad publicity to take money away, etc? Or is it a legal obstacle course?

While we're at it, how hard would it be for Trump's SecDef to reverse that idiotic girl-empowering military that's on its way?
Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:24 PM (pC96u)

We shall see. I wait patiently for the list of agencies that will be defunded and/or abolished. Remember that it takes Congress to do that and not a pen and phone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (p4UlV)

77
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

*gaaaassp*

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:22 PM (8ZskC)
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I see you got my little joke.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (pC96u)

78 It's infuriating that McC. Won't fight 0bama and dems as hard as he fights conservatives.

won't cuz he share the same goals as the left.

Posted by: willy at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (Ffw22)

79 It sounds to me like the goal of the Uniparty is to consolidate all power in DC.

And it's utterly ridiculous to speak of "Democrats" and "Republicans" at this point. They are in it together.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2016 01:17 PM (zoehZ)

That's crazy talk. The feds only control the distribution of food and healthcare, the ebb and flow of employment and housing, education, law enforcement, what you can and cannot say on the internet, on campuses, and workplaces... it's not like they control who can poop where...

Oh wait...

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (TOk1P)

80 Is there at last anything that is not the business of the federal government?

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Keeping illegals out
national defense
the constitution

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (PNcou)

81 What does the Collins amendment do or not do? The article doesn't address.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:28 PM (wH8rX)

82
Whoever went long on fig leaves and loin cloths after 2010 and 2014 is cleaning up.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:28 PM (p4UlV)

83 I anxiously await JeffB. to show up and tell us how we are all wrong and this is the best we could hope for and we should be thanking McConnell for doing such a wonderful job.

You know, the same thing JeffB. has done for the past 10 years here.

Posted by: Manco at May 20, 2016 01:28 PM (Duizy)

84 81 What does the Collins amendment do or not do? The article doesn't address.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:28 PM (wH8rX)

It merely prevents HUD from making zoning decisions - something they can't and don't do anyway. It does not stop HUD from withholding tax dollars to communities for not building the housing they dictate where they dictate it.

Total fake bullshit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:29 PM (p4UlV)

85 Oh, good. I see Isakson voted with the other traitors. And the idiot is up for reelection.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 01:30 PM (1ZOkK)

86 Cornyn not on the list for once.

He needs to go anyway.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 20, 2016 01:31 PM (M0ddJ)

87 @85 I'm pretty sure Isakson already announced he's retiring.

Its the only thing that prevented me from calling his office. He don't give a shit.

Posted by: Manco at May 20, 2016 01:31 PM (Duizy)

88 #31

Yep, the UniParty. And boy howdy will it be united against a President Trump.

Posted by: mrp at May 20, 2016 01:31 PM (JBggj)

89 85 Oh, good. I see Isakson voted with the other traitors. And the idiot is up for reelection.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 01:30 PM (1ZOkK)

I heard a clip of Kerry Pickett ambushing him and he was a total stuttering, lying prick. It was on Levin.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:32 PM (p4UlV)

90 What does the Collins amendment do or not do? The article doesn't address.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

http://tinyurl.com/zh5py7q

Collins's amendment is a sham..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 20, 2016 01:32 PM (so+oy)

91 Think I'll go home and cut the grass.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2016 01:32 PM (6xtq3)

92 I got some more research to do, but it looks like a lot of this agenda is being snuck in the back door in the form of "updates" to the International Building Code and the International Energy Codes.

The beauty is that most states adopt these "updates" automatically and impose them on localities. The localities are the ones that then have to deal with the folks with the torches and pitchforks.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at May 20, 2016 01:32 PM (hKi6n)

93
If Isakson (sp) is in fact retiring the time is now to find someone to get that seat and deny McCocksickle another stooge.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:33 PM (p4UlV)

94
Think I'll go home and cut the grass.
Posted by: Weasel

Get a goat.

Posted by: Mitch McTurtle at May 20, 2016 01:33 PM (k4M/B)

95 77
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

*gaaaassp*

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:22 PM (8ZskC)
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I see you got my little joke.
Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (pC96u)

That or he snapped.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 20, 2016 01:33 PM (M0ddJ)

96 90 What does the Collins amendment do or not do? The article doesn't address.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

http://tinyurl.com/zh5py7q

Collins's amendment is a sham..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 20, 2016 01:32 PM (so+oy)

It's a mockery of a sham of two frauds of a mockery of a sham.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:33 PM (p4UlV)

97
We shall see. I wait patiently for the list of agencies that will be defunded and/or abolished. Remember that it takes Congress to do that and not a pen and phone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (p4UlV)
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Then it's time for some imaginative problem-solving.

1 - The next Chief Executive furloughs every single employee of every suspect federal agency. They get their money, they sit at home playing Scrabble. Although we have to shell out for their useless asses, at least they're not behind their desks ruining our lives and they'll never get promoted.

2 - I'll try to think of some more.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:33 PM (pC96u)

98 I see you got my little joke.
Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:27 PM (pC96u)

That or he snapped.
Posted by: TexasDan

or both. Somebody dropped the "Is Hillary vajazzling?" bomb in the last thread.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:34 PM (326rv)

99 What does the Collins amendment do or not do? The article doesn't address.

It does nothing. It's pure Failure Theater. All Collins' amendment does is provide that the Department of Housing and Urban Development cannot "direct a grantee to undertake specific changes to existing zoning laws as part of carrying out" enforcement of AFFH.

This is meaningless. There was never any provision for direct coercion by HUD. Participation was always to be coerced indirectly, through the withholding of federal grant money. Collin's amendment was designed to give GOP senators cover when they vote against outright defunding, in the manner that the GOP has raised to a form of art.

http://tinyurl.com/zh5py7q

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:34 PM (8ZskC)

100 Is Oklahoma the new Texas?

Passed legislation calling for impeachment of Obama.

Passed legislation making performance of abortion a felony and taking away the medical license of any doctor who performs one.

Working on bill that would require separate but equal bathroom facilities for the use of non-transgender students only.

Posted by: Meremortal, the wine at May 20, 2016 01:35 PM (3myMJ)

101
Here's Isakson being a lying shit-whore (close the spaces):

http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/19/senate-gop-and-

democrats-save-hud-regulation-from-defunding-measure/

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:35 PM (p4UlV)

102 Wow. Just fucking wow.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 20, 2016 01:35 PM (0LHZx)

103 The problem is that the feds suck out far more in tax money from the citizens of the states than the actual states do, and then they use that money as a lever to force the states to do its insane bidding. This has to stop.

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there's an ammendment right there. The federal government Shall Not provide any money to the States.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (PNcou)

104 Somebody dropped the "Is Hillary vajazzling?" bomb in the last thread.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:34 PM (326rv)

Yep. AOSHQ is a checking league for your brain.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (M0ddJ)

105 I wish that is why Trump happened but 95% of even GOP voters don't have a clue what the Lee amendment is or any other legislation that was or wasn't passed. Trump happened because the general voter is tired of politicians period. If it was McConnells actions then Kentucky is schizo since they voted him in and voted for Trump.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (wH8rX)

106
It merely prevents HUD from making zoning decisions - something they can't and don't do anyway. It does not stop HUD from withholding tax dollars to communities for not building the housing they dictate where they dictate it.

Total fake bullshit.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:29 PM (p4UlV)
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Does HUD do anything we need? ANYTHING? Could it be abolished?

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (pC96u)

107 Every red leaning distinct will be blue when this is done. This is about redistributing votes not money.

Posted by: Redhex at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (L3iXP)

108 Unfortunately, it's not that easy to reverse. And although the light bulb ban might be overturned, all a the manufacturers have destroyed all the production lines to go back into business.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (p4UlV)

That's why I bought a lifetime's worth of 60, 75 & 100-watt bulbs before they were banned. Where I go, they go. Once gone, gone for good.

No bureaucratic dumbfuck is gonna tell me what kind of light bulb I can use. My own little act of rebellion.

Posted by: Blano at May 20, 2016 01:37 PM (lbcdD)

109
If it was McConnells actions then Kentucky is schizo since they voted him in and voted for Trump.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (wH8rX)
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Ditto Wisconsin.

That's why we keep saying here: We have met the enemy....

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:37 PM (pC96u)

110 97 Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:33 PM (pC96u)

I like the way you think. The one intangible is what President Trump will actually do after he takes the oath of office.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:37 PM (p4UlV)

111 It's a lot easier to understand when you realize that every willing accomplice in the Uniparty hijacking of the country has their hands deeeeep in the Federal till and firmly believes that enough money will isolate them from the remnants of the society they are destroying so efficiently!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 01:38 PM (wYnyS)

112 It's not a question of "This is why Trump happened".

Yeah, welp. I'm now strongly supporting Trump. Doing anything else is just twiddling one's thumbs while people like McConnell fug us over until the end of time.

Posted by: Drider at May 20, 2016 01:38 PM (bdzyz)

113 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:34 PM (8ZskC)

Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:38 PM (wH8rX)

114 100 Is Oklahoma the new Texas?

They're doing their best to be a part of our Republic of Texas 2017 Tour

Posted by: Rick Perry at May 20, 2016 01:39 PM (12kBq)

115 HUD is the Beer Goggles of federal agencies. They do nothing!

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 20, 2016 01:39 PM (8CZHh)

116 Well at least my Pat Toomey came through. Of course he's due to lose in November...

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 20, 2016 01:39 PM (PNcou)

117 Trump = The Mule *

* Asimov's 'Foundation' Series

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:39 PM (uxHUH)

118 Does HUD do anything we need? ANYTHING? Could it be abolished?
Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (pC96u)

From your lips to Rick Perry's ears and then not quite to his lips.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (M0ddJ)

119
105 I wish that is why Trump happened but 95% of even GOP voters don't have a clue what the Lee amendment is or any other legislation that was or wasn't passed. Trump happened because the general voter is tired of politicians period.
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I think the general voter "tired of politicians period" couldn't name the Lee amendment or McConnell's action, but they have a vague sense of things. VAGUE. Which is why McConnell and Ryan will be reelected until they're embalmed.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (pC96u)

120 If it was McConnells actions then Kentucky is schizo since they voted him in and voted for Trump.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

1. mcConnell was in a primary this year?
2. KY may very well be; they also voted for empress mommom.

Trump happened because the general voter is tired of politicians period.

Yeah, and trump is in the process of defeating a clown car full of them. We know that this is an outsider year. No one said that every voter pays close attention to this. We're atypical. Although, primary voters tend to be more interested in such things. And they often want to fins and vote for their party ideals.

Which explains Bernies' staying power.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (326rv)

121 106 Does HUD do anything we need? ANYTHING? Could it be abolished?
Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:36 PM (pC96u)

Of course it could. But watch the FSA scream "racism!" And the GOP-e will not allow it to happen. A big government is how they get fat and maintain power.

Ronald Reagan couldn't abolish the Dept. of Ed., not because of Democrats but because his own party refused to go along with it.

And they're still there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (p4UlV)

122 "Trump happened because the general voter is tired of politicians period."

That's what ace meant. Trump happened because people are tired of politicians that don't have any interests that coincide with the majority of the populace.

He didn't mean this incident, this incident is just another example of what's been going on for years.

Posted by: Meremortal, more wine at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (3myMJ)

123 I'll wager this was a "managed vote" where McConnell parcels out the "Yays" to senators who are at risk of primary challenges while making sure that there enough "Nays" to ensure the defeat of the amendment.

God, I hate these bastards

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (8ZskC)

124 Isakson IS up for reelection. I just checked out the asshole's web site.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (1ZOkK)

125 If this is why Trump happened, then explain why Trump is not conservative? Should we not have happened upon a rock solid conservative who has shown a willingness to fight for conservativism?

Posted by: astonerii at May 20, 2016 01:41 PM (ia088)

126 May DJT give Mitch McConnell the 'Enthusiasms' speech from The Untouchables

Posted by: Al Capone at May 20, 2016 01:42 PM (12kBq)

127
The one intangible is what President Trump will actually do after he takes the oath of office.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:37 PM (p4UlV)
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Yup.

I'd like to see him enczaren some "dead-enders" like Rick Perry who have no future in politics and nothing at stake in the whole rotten edifice.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:42 PM (pC96u)

128 Demography is destiny, and, well, our betters are doing all they can to assure a tractable, dependent population is able to spread far and wide its pathologies. Cultural enrichment, dontchaknow?

Still, above and beyond this rather minor matter, we must keep always before us that the Inner Party are doing all they can to assure Abuela Borracha ends up in the White House.

Sure, they've betrayed every damned principle they ever claimed to stand for, broke every single promise before they ever made them, and generally behaved in a manner indistinguishable from that of a slightly more moderate version of their ostensible political opponents, but at least....

Well, that's all I've got.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 01:42 PM (lutOX)

129 115 HUD is the Beer Goggles of federal agencies. They do nothing!

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 20, 2016 01:39 PM (8CZHh)

Who says beer goggles don't work?!

Effect is regrettable but they work.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 20, 2016 01:42 PM (mEZce)

130 If this is why Trump happened, then explain why Trump is not conservative?

I think it was Mark Steyn who put it best when he said that the problem with the conservative movement is that it hasn't moved anything in 50 years.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:43 PM (8ZskC)

131
125 If this is why Trump happened, then explain why Trump is not conservative? Should we not have happened upon a rock solid conservative who has shown a willingness to fight for conservativism?

Posted by: astonerii at May 20, 2016 01:41 PM (ia08

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Trump's question is not "Is this conservative?" but "Will this hurt, or harm, America?"

Sickening that conservatives don't ask that second question anymore.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (pC96u)

132 Federal law currently prohibits HUD from MANDATING the spending priorities of state or local governments or FORCING them to forego their local policies, including zoning policies.

AFFH gets around this prohibition by telling localities that they can't get any federal grant money unless they VOLUNTARILY change their local zoning regulations and change their housing policies to what HUD wants (i.e., racial jerrymandering by the federal government).

So Susan Collins' amendment says that HUD will be prohibited from FORCING compliance with what it wants. Problem is, HUD is ALREADY prohibited from forcing compliance, which is exactly why AFFH is telling localities that they must VOLUNTARILY comply with HUD's racial jerrymandering, or else they won't get any federal grant money.

IOW, Collins' amendment is completely bogus, and was drafted for the sole purpose of giving cover to spineless GOP a-holes like John McCain, who approve of AFFH's racial jerrymandering, but don't want their voters to know that they approve.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (BNs9e)

133 125 If this is why Trump happened, then explain why Trump is not conservative? Should we not have happened upon a rock solid conservative who has shown a willingness to fight for conservativism?
Posted by: astonerii at May 20, 2016 01:41 PM (ia08

***
name one who is even remotely electable in this LIV nation.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (lutOX)

134 Posted by: Meremortal, more wine at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (3myMJ)

Thats why I included any and all legislation not just this specific piece. I think people would have gone for Trump even if the Republicans had fought the good fight.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (wH8rX)

135 Does HUD do anything we need? ANYTHING? Could it be abolished?

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if you are an self sufficient taxpaying citizen, then NO.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (PNcou)

136 For forty years , conservatism has been selling like condoms at Lillith Fair.

Hence Trump.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (uxHUH)

137 Isakson IS up for reelection. I just checked out the asshole's web site.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (1ZOkK)

I haven't checked yet, but if I heard on Levin last night correct his opponent in the primary is a Constitutional conservative black guy. Sounded like a good replacement if I heard right.

Posted by: Blano at May 20, 2016 01:45 PM (lbcdD)

138 Oops, forgot to change my socks.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 20, 2016 01:45 PM (BNs9e)

139
Ronald Reagan couldn't abolish the Dept. of Ed., not because of Democrats but because his own party refused to go along with it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (p4UlV)
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Fuck.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:45 PM (pC96u)

140 The sad fact is that conservatives are to the GOP as Blacks are to the Dems.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:46 PM (8ZskC)

141 I'm sure as hell not voting for Trump, but I had allllmost talked myself into voting for Portman this November.

So much for that. DIAF, a-hole.

Posted by: Hedley Lamar at May 20, 2016 01:46 PM (SPaCH)

142 125
We did his name was Cruz.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 20, 2016 01:46 PM (QPdNE)

143 124 Isakson IS up for reelection. I just checked out the asshole's web site.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 01:40 PM (1ZOkK)

Collins, Cornyn, Isakson, Cochran, McCain, McConnell, Corker, Thune, Alexander, Blount, Murkowski, Moran, Roberts, Heller, Hoeven, Kirk, Nelson, Perdue. . .

Holy shit. The Senate is a veritable nest of traitorous pigs. And I haven't even checked every one of our so-called Senators.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:47 PM (p4UlV)

144 Senatorial Trump-backlash?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:48 PM (uxHUH)

145 132 IOW, Collins' amendment is completely bogus, and was drafted for the sole purpose of giving cover to spineless GOP a-holes like John McCain, who approve of AFFH's racial jerrymandering, but don't want their voters to know that they approve.
Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (BNs9e)

Like Bavarelli and Driftwood:

"The party of the first part shall be known henceforth as the party of the first part."

"Hey, I no like-a dat one!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:49 PM (p4UlV)

146 Turtles gotta go...

Posted by: donna at May 20, 2016 01:49 PM (O2RFr)

147 136 For forty years , conservatism has been selling like condoms at Lillith Fair.

Hence Trump.
Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:44 PM (uxHUH)

I think the better analogy is that they're the Cleveland Browns. Every year they say "we're rebuilding. Next year we'll be better and continue to improve." And every year they go 4-12. At some point the fans will move onto another team.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 20, 2016 01:49 PM (KUaJL)

148 "If this is why Trump happened, then explain why Trump is not conservative? Should we not have happened upon a rock solid conservative who has shown a willingness to fight for conservativism?"

One hunt, two dogs. Take your pick.

You want change then pick the right dog. You want what we have had the last 8 years pick the other. It ain't rocket science.

Posted by: Drider at May 20, 2016 01:50 PM (bdzyz)

149 I don't know why Russia and China are rattling their sabres, we're more fucking commie than they are!

Posted by: Fritz at May 20, 2016 01:50 PM (UzPAd)

150 Conservatism became the cover story for GOP Establishment types that might face a decent opponent in House or Senate race. The fact that they, as the vaunted "Guardians of Conservatism", have managed to screw the conservative pooch on every occasion for decades finally registered with more and more voters being eff'd over by the Federal Government Cartel, and presto chango TRUMP!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 01:50 PM (wYnyS)

151 140 The sad fact is that conservatives are to the GOP as Blacks are to the Dems.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:46 PM (8ZskC)

We're not even that any more. They don't want us as their base. Incredible, but true. At least the Dems lie to black folk and hand out lucre.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:50 PM (p4UlV)

152
Should we not have happened upon a rock solid conservative who has shown a willingness to fight for conservativism?
Posted by: astonerii

We did his name was Cruz.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition

On the Motion to Table (Motion to Table Lee Amdt. No. 3897)

Not Voting

Cruz (R-TX)

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 20, 2016 01:51 PM (kdS6q)

153
140 The sad fact is that conservatives are to the GOP as Blacks are to the Dems.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:46 PM (8ZskC)
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So effing true.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 01:51 PM (pC96u)

154 AFFH - making sure that the 'refugees,' the 'disadvantaged,' and the pathologically dependent can do for your town what they've done for Chicago, Detroit, et al.

And if you think you're immune, remember that it's only a matter of time before the general tone of the community affects thee and thine. Only a matter of time.

They're trying to drive regular folks out - make no mistake - make us a minority in our own towns and neighborhoods. And they'll succeed, and do it on our dime, and hate us for it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 01:51 PM (lutOX)

155 I lack even the profanity for this.

I have been told, for decades, that it is imperative to hold my nose and vote Republican because hey if we don't have the House, then we don't have the power of the purse. But if we have the House, we need the Senate too because otherwise everything will just die in the Senate. But oh we can't do anything unless we have the House and the Senate and the Presidency because veto.

Well, you know what? None of that matters one bit when the Senate and the House refuse to use their Constitutional authority, not to mention the powers granted under the Congressional Review Act, to stop outright power grabs by the various agencies.

Since the Republicans flatly refuse to use the powers given to them by the public to stop the rise of the administrative state, then I flatly refuse to accept guilt trips about but but but Dems.

I'm done listening to the excuses. Absolutely done.

Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 20, 2016 01:51 PM (mf5HN)

156 149 I don't know why Russia and China are rattling their sabres, we're more fucking commie than they are!
Posted by: Fritz at May 20, 2016 01:50 PM (UzPAd)

They know they can get away with it. Chi-coms will make a play for Taiwan in the next 10 years, maybe sooner if we do not massively ramp up and reverse course after next January.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:51 PM (p4UlV)

157 Not Voting

Cruz (R-TX)

Well now.

Maybe he was too busy fighting for conservatism.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:52 PM (uxHUH)

158 AFFH - making sure that the 'refugees,' the 'disadvantaged,' and the pathologically dependent can do for your town what they've done for Chicago, Detroit, et al.

It's only fair payback for crusades and high horses.

Fundamental change, baby!

Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at May 20, 2016 01:53 PM (8ZskC)

159 John McCain is up for re-election this year. Conservatives here in AZ have been trying to boot his sorry ass for decades. This is just another FU from him to us. He thinks he's invincible, and that AZ voters are stupid.

Let's hope this time he's wrong.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 20, 2016 01:53 PM (BNs9e)

160 This is payback for nominating Trump instead of their fair-haired GOPe dick-sucker Heb!. Expect more payback to come.

Posted by: Soona at May 20, 2016 01:53 PM (Fmupd)

161 142 125
We did his name was Cruz.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 20, 2016 01:46 PM (QPdNE)
***
And I lament his failure, not only as a conservative, but as a Texan, too.

But with him gone, what's to be done now?

Trump wasn't my first or even second pick, but he has enough enemies of the right kind to give me some grounds for hope.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 01:53 PM (lutOX)

162
AFFH does several things, but primarily it destroys the value of homes in suburbia. It's another form of confiscation/redistribution.

It's also a way to "punish" whitey for having the wherewithal to flee the urban leftist shitholes and prevent them from doing it again.

G-d help me but if there ever was a violent backlash to this, I would not be upset.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (p4UlV)

163 I lack even the profanity for this.

Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 20, 2016 01:51 PM (mf5HN)

Then you're going to love this, alex:

https://goo.gl/E721uz

Seriously, the GOP is not only stupid, it's tone deaf.

http://goo.gl/caemGZ

Posted by: physics geek at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (MT22W)

164
155 I lack even the profanity for this.

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Hell, so do I.

Posted by: The Dictionary at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (pC96u)

165 Since the Republicans flatly refuse to use the powers given to them by the public to stop the rise of the administrative state, then I flatly refuse to accept guilt trips about but but but Dems.

I'm done listening to the excuses. Absolutely done.
Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits

They are not merely refusing to fight. They are engaging in BS actions designed to allow this AND cover their asses.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (326rv)

166 53
Did the burn, scatter, salt guy get banned?
Posted by: Meremortal, takes the wine at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (3myMJ)
Don't know, so I'll go ahead and say itBURN IT DOWN .SALT THE EARTHSCATTER THE STONES.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (jxbfJ)

167 Bet that Chappaqua will not be affected by the new rules.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:55 PM (8ZskC)

168 155 I lack even the profanity for this.

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Hell, so do I.

This Granny has plenty but I don't want to get banned...

Posted by: donna at May 20, 2016 01:55 PM (O2RFr)

169 Quislings gotta...quisle. I guess.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:55 PM (uxHUH)

170 They know they can get away with it. Chi-coms will make a play for Taiwan in the next 10 years, maybe sooner if we do not massively ramp up and reverse course after next January.

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i always figured it would happen in the interregnum from November to January of an election year.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 20, 2016 01:56 PM (PNcou)

171 Could it be that trying to survive in a post-Constitutional and post-ethical society has made more than a few people just a wee bit disaffected by the greed and disdain of their "betters"?

Nah, that's just haterz talk!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 01:56 PM (wYnyS)

172 It's scary how much Obama must despise the rubes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:56 PM (8ZskC)

173 G-d help me but if there ever was a violent backlash to this, I would not be upset.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (p4UlV)
***
Sadly, there will be violence, and plenty of it, but not in the direction you might hope.

Most people are utterly unequipped to deal with these people. I see and deal with some of them - DREAMERS and 'those in the shadows' - and I can tell you, I'm not up to the task.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 01:56 PM (lutOX)

174 Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:52 PM (uxHUH)

You forgot to preface with your usual 'I'm a Cruz supporter'.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (wH8rX)

175 155
I'm done listening to the excuses. Absolutely done.
Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 20, 2016 01:51 PM (mf5HN)

I posted earlier that it's becoming an attractive option to have a handful of folks like us in the Senate who will fight and make the case even in a losing cause than have a majority of these traitorous vermin selling us out.

We'd be in the wilderness but it would deny them power and a seat at the table. Whether or not we'll have a country left in 15-25 years is a big question mark.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (p4UlV)

176
Want to see the effect this will have on communities just look at San Fransisco.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (lKyWE)

177 To the Moon, baby!

Posted by: Dow Jones Index at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (uxHUH)

178 Cruz needs to get some executive presentation training and hire a speech coach. When I read what he said, I liked it very much. However, his voice and his delivery are off putting. Good ideas poorly delivered tend to die.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (kTF2Z)

179 So glad to see our esteemed (gag) Senator Ayotte (NH, sellout) has her fingers in this. Collins (ME) doesn't surprise me, in fact I'd be surprised if I didn't see her name.

Absolutely astounds me the level of
-Contempt
-stubbornness
-tone deafness
-All of the above

these politicians have. Look at what has happened during the GOP primary season and they can't read the tea leaves?

History is not going to be kind to these buffoons. Nor should it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (jxbfJ)

180
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

psst.... hey Joe?

He lost.

Posted by: Dow Jones Index at May 20, 2016 01:58 PM (uxHUH)

181 If we could harness the angular momentum of the Framers spinning in their graves we wouldn't need fucking windmills.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:58 PM (8ZskC)

182 "And I lament his failure, not only as a conservative, but as a Texan, too.

But with him gone, what's to be done now? "

I really don't know, curl up into a fetal position?

Maybe just stay home and not vote whereas I feel this post would be a complete waste of time being one would have to realize that there is no hunt left in that dog. So the dog has no stake in anything nor right to complain.

Or, well hell. I just don't know. It's all to confusing.

2 + 2 = 5 Or wait...2 + 2 = 3...Hold on dang it 2 +2, ahh fug it.

Posted by: Drider at May 20, 2016 01:58 PM (bdzyz)

183 179 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (jxbfJ)

Collins sponsored/wrote this lie.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:58 PM (p4UlV)

184 This is what they do, in an election year, when they control the chamber.

Dear God, how craven they are.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 20, 2016 01:59 PM (326rv)

185 Quislings gotta...quisle. I guess

=======

Oh shit now you did it

https://is.gd/t2cJFN

Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at May 20, 2016 01:59 PM (Xq8vL)

186 Tell me again why I must support the GOPe at all costs?
GOPe is always gonna GOPe.
Dems are always gonna Dem.
More often the GOPe is gonna Dem too.

Screw it, burning it to the ground is looking more and more attractive.

Posted by: IP at May 20, 2016 02:00 PM (aQQbl)

187
I haven't checked yet, but if I heard on Levin
last night correct his opponent in the primary is a Constitutional
conservative black guy. Sounded like a good replacement if I heard
right.

Posted by: Blano at May 20, 2016 01:45 PM (lbcdD)

He needs to be elected. Isakson needs to go out to pasture with McLame.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 02:00 PM (1ZOkK)

188 I voted for Cruz.

I don't revere him sufficiently for some, apparently.

Care to explain his non vote?

Because we beat up President Present for that pretty regularly.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 02:00 PM (uxHUH)

189 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (p4UlV)

Thanks JJ! Your optimism was much needed on a bleak day like today!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 20, 2016 02:00 PM (wYnyS)

190 Yup it's the RINOs who gave us Trump. It's not Brain Surgery...not that any of us could afford that under Fredocare

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2016 02:00 PM (Ozsfq)

191 "64
Did McConnell give any reason why the federal govt should decide where housing is built, or...inserted as it were?
"

My guess is that he had to show that show-boater Mike Lee who runs the Senate.

Posted by: Wendy at May 20, 2016 02:01 PM (bpemY)

192 I've got plenty of extra profanity if anyone's interested. Sell it to ya cheap.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 20, 2016 02:01 PM (kTF2Z)

193 Seriously, the GOP is not only stupid, it's tone deaf.

http://goo.gl/caemGZ
Posted by: physics geek at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (MT22W)

I legit cannot begin to type my response to that.

Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 20, 2016 02:01 PM (mf5HN)

194 He needs to be elected. Isakson needs to go out to ~~pasture~~ lamppost with McLame.

Fixed

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 02:01 PM (8ZskC)

195 Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone

Lunchtime!

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 02:01 PM (uxHUH)

196 174 Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 01:52 PM (uxHUH)

You forgot to preface with your usual 'I'm a Cruz supporter'.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (wH8rX)

I'm a die-hard Cruz supporter. He and Mike Lee are the best things that happened to this nation in a long time.

That said, it's time to compel Mr. Trump to say and do the right things from now through November and beyond.

This does not mean I am shunning or abandoning Ted Cruz. It means I have to concentrate on fighting for what I believe in. That never stops. Trump or no Trump.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 02:02 PM (p4UlV)

197 If an enemy invaded us, seized the levers of power, and began inflicting its wrath on us, we'd never notice it.

And yet, that's what's happened....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 02:02 PM (lutOX)

198
G-d help me but if there ever was a violent backlash to this, I would not be upset.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (p4UlV)
-------------------

This has already hit Chappaqua, where its evil was compounded by an order against the local official responsible for implementing it to quit his bitching:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/433467/affh-federal-tyranny-gags-astorino-hillarys-backyard

It's coming to the Oakland hills (where the rich Berkeley SJW profs live), Beverly Hills, and Manhattan. Greenwich, Connecticut. Martha's Vineyard. Nantucket.

Isn't it? ISN'T IT?

Posted by: The Dictionary at May 20, 2016 02:02 PM (pC96u)

199 172
It's scary how much Obama must despise the rubes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 01:56 PM (8ZskC)

Oh, I'm pretty sure he knows he's hated with the heat of a trillion suns by the rubes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 02:02 PM (1ZOkK)

200 The funniest thing on the internet for the moment. Gives us a break in the Turtle doing turtly things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilQ_31WquQ

Posted by: Drider at May 20, 2016 02:03 PM (bdzyz)

201
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (kTF2Z)

You can't teach charisma,you either have it or you don't.Cruz doesn't

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 20, 2016 02:03 PM (lKyWE)

202 Oh, I'm pretty sure he knows he's hated with the heat of a trillion suns by the rubes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 02:02 PM (1ZOkK)

Today we are all Rubes!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2016 02:03 PM (Ozsfq)

203 I'm not a rube. I'm a proud Kulak.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2016 02:04 PM (8ZskC)

204 160 This is payback for nominating Trump instead of their fair-haired GOPe dick-sucker Heb!. Expect more payback to come.
Posted by: Soona at May 20, 2016 01:53 PM (Fmupd)
--------------------
Nah.
I think you're projecting.
WE might want revenge on THEM, but they really don't care enough about us to think of "payback." We're just not that important.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2016 02:04 PM (T/5A0)

205 I wonder if the left understands that if they destroy the U.S. civilian firearms industry, they put even more hurt on the military?
American civilains created much of the small arms it uses, plus the ammo and magazines.
Maybe I should ask if they care?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 20, 2016 02:04 PM (+aCe4)

206 Well, I've gotta go out and do stuff. I wish the peach Hate Shakes were back. I could use one right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2016 02:04 PM (1ZOkK)

207 198 Posted by: The Dictionary at May 20, 2016 02:02 PM (pC96u)

Rob Astorino is the Westchester County exec who is not backing down to HUD.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 02:05 PM (p4UlV)

208 JJ,
I guess I may be a bit jaded by ANY GOP politician claiming the conservative mantle and wearing the (R) anymore.

Even ones that I personally voted for.

Perhaps you'll excuse my lack of my faith.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 02:05 PM (uxHUH)

209 You can't teach charisma,you either have it or you don't.Cruz doesn't
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 20, 2016 02:03 PM (lKyWE)

Yup. And it's unfair and blah blah blah but it's true.

Of course, Hillary has anti-charisma and look at her. I mean, figuratively look at her, I don't hate all y'all nearly that much. Yet. The day is young.

Posted by: alexthechick- Darth Sugartits at May 20, 2016 02:05 PM (mf5HN)

210 Just got call "Heartless" by a left wing "Friend" on FB because I said under one of their homo posts that about a "southern" girl coming out as a Lezbo that "Frankly I don't give a damn"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2016 02:05 PM (Ozsfq)

211
nnod

Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 20, 2016 02:06 PM (+YvQf)

212 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2016 02:05 PM (Ozsfq)
***
you will be made to clap.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 20, 2016 02:06 PM (lutOX)

213
G-d help me but if there ever was a violent backlash to this, I would not be upset.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:54 PM (p4UlV)
-------------------

Woops, sock off.

Also, J.J. I've known a few of those people and I've lurked a few "There goes the neighborhood" posts on the leftysphere. Oh yeah they're ready to fight. They'll suddenly discover every "right-wing talking point" (as they call it) in their hypocritical little hearts. There will be shootings and neighborhood watches and bans and lawsuits in every wealthy blue neighborhood in America. There may even be news coverage if enough MSM reporters have to build electrical fences around their compounds to keep out the riffraff who shit on lawns and deal drugs to their pristine kids.

Posted by: iforgot at May 20, 2016 02:08 PM (pC96u)

214 208 JJ,
I guess I may be a bit jaded by ANY GOP politician claiming the conservative mantle and wearing the (R) anymore. Even ones that I personally voted for. Perhaps you'll excuse my lack of my faith.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 20, 2016 02:05 PM (uxHUH)

We are all imperfect human beings, to be sure. But I stand by my assessment of Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. Calling out McConnell in the well of the Senate as a liar - essentially to his face - was a huge deal, as well as shutting down the government in '13.

Whatever his negatives are, and I admit he has them, these positives speak for themselves.

Now, let's hold our presumptive candidate's feet to the fire and make him understand he works for us.
That is something I can get behind.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 02:09 PM (p4UlV)

215 >>>Of course, Hillary has anti-charisma and look at her<<<

You don't need charisma when you have Bill on your right and Satan on your left.

Posted by: Fritz at May 20, 2016 02:14 PM (UzPAd)

216 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 02:02 PM (p4UlV)

I was just being snarky. Motimer always or defended advocated for Trump and always criticized Cruz , but never failed to mention he was a Cruz voter.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 20, 2016 02:14 PM (wH8rX)

217 "178
Cruz needs to get some executive presentation training and hire a speech
coach. When I read what he said, I liked it very much. However, his
voice and his delivery are off putting. Good ideas poorly delivered
tend to die."

Yes, comb-overs, evasiveness, and ad hominem attacks are always winning tactics (a face transplant wouldn't hurt either).

Posted by: Second Thought Excuses at May 20, 2016 02:15 PM (bpemY)

218 175
I posted earlier that it's becoming an attractive option to have a handful of folks like us in the Senate who will fight and make the case even in a losing cause than have a majority of these traitorous vermin selling us out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM
----------------------
A political version of the "Benedict option."

Benedict believed that it was best to have a staunchly orthodox Church that stood in stark contrast to the Zeitgeist, even if that necessarily meant a much smaller Church.

The other option is to stretch doctrine beyond clear distinction, to absorb the Zeitgeist, to be popular.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2016 02:16 PM (T/5A0)

219 Mitch McConnell is worse than Boehner.

Posted by: Harun at May 20, 2016 02:24 PM (UBBWX)

220

~~Burn~~ Trump it down.

idc

I'm rooting for Trump now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 20, 2016 02:26 PM (qCMvj)

221 Who knew that "Democratic Underground" is owned, authored, and published by the GOP Senate? Because even though they wear a GOP badge, they are underground Democrats.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at May 20, 2016 02:31 PM (O4NI/)

222 But remember Ted Cruz is a bad guy because he's not friends with these guys.

Oh, and "choose the form of your destructor" who think Trump is the destructor, you may be wrong.

I predict Trump wins and GOPe is strengthened by it.

Deals and more deals.

Posted by: Harun at May 20, 2016 02:31 PM (UBBWX)

223 "Cruz needs to get some executive presentation training and hire a speech
coach. When I read what he said, I liked it very much. However, his
voice and his delivery are off putting. Good ideas poorly delivered
tend to die."

He is who he is and he improved this year during the campaign, but there is only so much you can do.

Probably better start looking at Governors like Walker.

Posted by: Harun at May 20, 2016 02:32 PM (UBBWX)

224 Yet many Republicans are still voting for Hillary to preserve this status quo because they hate Trump.

Posted by: Valiant at May 20, 2016 02:32 PM (sdoYZ)

225 "Yet many Republicans are still voting for Hillary to preserve this status quo because they hate Trump."

Not really true. Polls show Trump is winning about the same percent of "Republicans" as Romney did.

And in reality most people hate Hillary more.

Finally, a ton of the #NeverTrump people live in NYC or other states where it doesn't matter. Trump will not win those states anyways.

Posted by: Harun at May 20, 2016 02:35 PM (UBBWX)

226 Posted by: Drider at May 20, 2016 02:03 PM (bdzyz)

That was pretty funny.

Posted by: plum at May 20, 2016 02:38 PM (h+OMg)

227 I voted for Cruz.

I don't revere him sufficiently for some, apparently.

Care to explain his non vote?
--------------------------------------------

Explaining that is Cruz's job.

Posted by: Meremortal, more wine at May 20, 2016 02:40 PM (3myMJ)

228 @16: "We must execute a decapitaion strike against Ryan and McConnel.

The Democrats are no longer our main enemies per se.

The GOP must be destroyed."

Oh, the Communists are still the main enemies. The GOP are simply (and clearly, quite deliberately) in the way. They're beach obstacles. They have to be destroyed in order to close with the real enemy.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 20, 2016 02:56 PM (rznWS)

229 This time it's going to be a French Revolution, and all politicians, good, bad, it won't matter.

Posted by: DFCtomm at May 20, 2016 02:57 PM (7BQy0)

230 53
Did the burn, scatter, salt guy get banned?

Posted by: Meremortal, takes the wine at May 20, 2016 01:21 PM (3myMJ)

Doesn't that just sum up the morons? You can drop it with the let it burn talk now. We all know how the morons really feel about that. When a match is lit you shit your pants.

Posted by: DFCtomm at May 20, 2016 03:08 PM (7BQy0)

231 What good are Conservatives who just don't get it?

Ted Cruz fell on his ass because he thinks this is 1996.

Trump said what we needed to hear. Cruz did not.

Trump said FYNQ and people said Fuck Yeah!

Wake the fuck up.

Conservatism is not the answer.

Kicking ass is the answer.

Trump kicked your ass.

Deal with it.

Posted by: eman at May 20, 2016 04:00 PM (mR7Es)

232 However, his voice and his delivery are off putting. Good ideas poorly delivered tend to die.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 20, 2016 01:57 PM (kTF2Z)

It absolutely astounds me that this matters. (I'm not disagreeing with you, given the intelligence level of the populace)...but seeeriously?? Are we still stuck in the high school mentally of "If you aren't cool, you're a fool"?... "I like the sparkle...Obbbaaaama....Ooobaaaama..he's dreamy! I'll vote for HIM!"
GAK. We're doomed.

Posted by: Mimzey at May 20, 2016 07:35 PM (aRUb8)

233 Conservatism is not the answer.

Kicking ass is the answer.

Trump kicked your ass.

Deal with it.

Posted by: eman at May 20, 2016 04:00 PM (mR7Es)

If not sarc...thats just dumb imo.

Posted by: Mimzey at May 20, 2016 07:37 PM (aRUb8)

234 Which is why "conservative" Trump made sure Vichy Mitchy would still be around by giving him money.

Fuck you all with a frozen swordfish. Sideways.

Posted by: SDN at May 20, 2016 10:22 PM (m/qEg)

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