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National Poll Puts Clinton Up Only Two, Within Margin of Error, 42-40
Not too bad. But then, the unification process is already happening in the GOP, and hasn't yet started in the Democrat Party.
Still, the Morning Consult poll validates recent polling showing a Clinton-Trump contest a lot closer than earlier polls did.
According to a national poll of almost 4,000 registered voters taken last week, Clinton leads Trump by just 42 percent to 40 percent, within the 2-point margin of error. She is down 2 percent from a week ago, while Trump gained 2 points. Nearly one out of five voters (17 percent) remain undecided.
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Jeez, what time is it?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 17, 2016 03:16 PM (TnUKj)
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Posted by: iforgot at May 17, 2016 03:17 PM (pC96u)
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Trump isn't going up, he's peaking at 40%, Hillary is coming down. I've been saying that I don't think Trump can win the race but Hillary can lose it and this is exactly what I mean.
She is a horrible, horrible candidate and if the FBI doesn't full exonerate her she is in deep doo doo.
She is a horrible, horrible candidate and if the FBI doesn't full exonerate her she is in deep doo doo.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 17, 2016 03:19 PM (/tuJf)
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Ace must be halfway east of here.
and it's still not too late for the Repubs to come to their senses and dump Trump for !Jeb
and it's still not too late for the Repubs to come to their senses and dump Trump for !Jeb
Posted by: Satan, taking a break at May 17, 2016 03:19 PM (qSIlh)
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But what about all of the hysterical hyperventilating by ace that we are doomed, or was that all just left over Cruz partisan hackery?
Posted by: tommylotto at May 17, 2016 03:21 PM (A3a8d)
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 03:21 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 17, 2016 03:21 PM (LUG6K)
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Looks like America is beginning to unify just in time for the great battle of Armeggedon.
Posted by: doug at May 17, 2016 03:22 PM (Y7fRE)
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Give me breakouts for FL, OH, PA, VA, IA with likely voters and I'll give you a true picture of the race to 270 electoral votes.
Posted by: WisRich at May 17, 2016 03:22 PM (hdpay)
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Someone is flaunting his time machine again.
Posted by: @votermom's phone at May 17, 2016 03:22 PM (sR1Gj)
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She is down 2 percent from a week ago, while Trump gained 2 points.
Trump isn't going up, he's peaking at 40%, Hillary is coming down
The article claims both; you claim one. I dunno. What were the results of this outfit's last poll?
She is down 2 percent from a week ago, while Trump gained 2 points.
Trump isn't going up, he's peaking at 40%, Hillary is coming down
The article claims both; you claim one. I dunno. What were the results of this outfit's last poll?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 03:23 PM (326rv)
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#NeverHillary
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 17, 2016 03:23 PM (8ZskC)
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Give me breakouts for FL, OH, PA, VA, IA with likely voters and I'll give you a true picture of the race to 270 electoral votes.
Posted by: WisRich
Ohio? Cloudy with a chance of totally F'd up.
Posted by: WisRich
Ohio? Cloudy with a chance of totally F'd up.
Posted by: Gov. John Katshitt at May 17, 2016 03:24 PM (326rv)
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Between turd sandwich and giant douche, we can simultaneously have a close race and still be doomed.
Posted by: wooga at May 17, 2016 03:24 PM (hCpRT)
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Not that i have ever been called for a poll, if called I think I will be one of the "Undecided". Let us see if we can get Undecided to be the leader ahead of both those bums.
Posted by: Paladin at May 17, 2016 03:25 PM (hxLER)
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At this point none of the polls matter. This summer is going to make '68 look like a country picnic. Without the yellowjackets. After the cinders stop falling and the sirens die out, who knows what things will be like.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:25 PM (39g3+)
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I think Trump is probably at about his peak. The primary voters who changed affiliation/rallied to give him primary victories because of his celebrity, his reality TV persona, will have to face the real wrath of SJW's for 6 months, I doubt many will persevere. They will be replaced, in part, by conservatives who bite the bullet, but I think the ratio will favor the SJW-harassed.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2016 03:25 PM (2cS/G)
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Surprised her gap is only 2.
Posted by: garrett at May 17, 2016 03:25 PM (UeYhU)
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Registered voters, not likely voters. I'll bet Trump is ahead among likelies.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 17, 2016 03:25 PM (8ZskC)
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Let's not talk about Hillary!'s gap, please.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (1ZOkK)
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If Trump would shut up he would win this in a landslide. Only the die-hards will vote for Hillary. The race is Trumps to lose.
Posted by: Driveby Blatherer at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (klkVb)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (/tuJf)
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I don't buy that the numbers in November will be anything like this.
My evidence? The thread on the Nevada Dem state convention... and why it will not hurt Democrats in November.
I would have taken what happened at the Dem state convention as a good sign that the GOP in Nevada might be able tohold on to the state Senate, the Assembly, both CD03 and CD04, and even pick up the U.S. Senate seat.
But, this is a false illusion.
Why?
1). Trump
2). Incompetent Ron Paul types used Trump supporters to gain complete control of the party... and they are the epitomy of DERP
3). Dems are using Trump to ramp up their voter registration faster than in '08 or '12.
In other words, what would have been a great year to defeat the Dems won't be... because of Trump.
My evidence? The thread on the Nevada Dem state convention... and why it will not hurt Democrats in November.
I would have taken what happened at the Dem state convention as a good sign that the GOP in Nevada might be able tohold on to the state Senate, the Assembly, both CD03 and CD04, and even pick up the U.S. Senate seat.
But, this is a false illusion.
Why?
1). Trump
2). Incompetent Ron Paul types used Trump supporters to gain complete control of the party... and they are the epitomy of DERP
3). Dems are using Trump to ramp up their voter registration faster than in '08 or '12.
In other words, what would have been a great year to defeat the Dems won't be... because of Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
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The real question is, what do the polls show among likely voters in the swing states? A generalized national number based on registered voters is almost meaningless.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (8ZskC)
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http://www.dumpaday.com/
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the-3-little-pigs/
Pig two - same story.
videos-of-the-day/christopher
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the-3-little-pigs/
Pig two - same story.
Posted by: DaveA at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (DL2i+)
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The more the left and that fuck Fredo keeps pushing, and he will keep pushing, to far far far far left...The better it is for Trump.
Things like Open Bathrooms and Lockers are game changers for some people and there is worse to come I assure you.
Things like Open Bathrooms and Lockers are game changers for some people and there is worse to come I assure you.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (V/InG)
Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (m5xM0)
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If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (1ZOkK)
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Did the passengers aboard the Titanic argue about the shape of the iceberg as they slipped beneath the waves?
Posted by: Weasel at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (6xtq3)
Posted by: huh? at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (j2xmV)
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FL belongs to DT. IA tossup (actually could go Bernie). The rest are HC. My real 'concern' is the reliably red states could go up for grabs.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (X+nFp)
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Dem unification? Not yet, they have more chairs to throw..
Posted by: IP at May 17, 2016 03:27 PM (aQQbl)
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>>>>Surprised her gap is only 2.
>2 what?
I don't know.
But, it's a Dry 2. That much should be apparent.
>2 what?
I don't know.
But, it's a Dry 2. That much should be apparent.
Posted by: garrett at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (UeYhU)
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Reagan was behind by 15 at this point.
Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (zllbf)
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All she has to do is go out and campaign some more. She will drop another 5 points. And imagine how she will do once she actually starts trying to attack someone like Trump who is not afraid to bring up her shit?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (vvmPQ)
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Definitely more than 2 knuckles.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (CGjum)
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2). Incompetent Ron Paul types used Trump supporters to gain complete control of the party... and they are the epitomy of DERP
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Out here the Ron Paul delegates from the last caucuses all have Bernie signs in their yards...I tend to think the Ron Paul voters went that way and not to Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Out here the Ron Paul delegates from the last caucuses all have Bernie signs in their yards...I tend to think the Ron Paul voters went that way and not to Trump.
Posted by: doug at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (Y7fRE)
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Will there be metal chairs at the first Trump/Hillarrhoids debate?
Will there be metal chairs at the first Trump/Hillarrhoids debate?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
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Jebus! Talk about a rat race.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (Nwg0u)
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It's a long way to November if you wanna rock and roll.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (k4M/B)
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If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
I'd pick someone like G Gordon Liddy. Someone that terrifies the press and has absolutely no pity or concern for what others think or will say. Someone with contempt for the media.
I'd pick someone like G Gordon Liddy. Someone that terrifies the press and has absolutely no pity or concern for what others think or will say. Someone with contempt for the media.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (U6f54)
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Will there be metal chairs at the first Trump/Hillarrhoids debate?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
IF there is a debate. I think Trump would bury her.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
IF there is a debate. I think Trump would bury her.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (V/InG)
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Will there be metal chairs at the first Trump/Hillarrhoids debate?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
Cage match: metal chairs vs. hipster slap-fighters
Will there be metal chairs at the first Trump/Hillarrhoids debate?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
Cage match: metal chairs vs. hipster slap-fighters
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 03:30 PM (1ZOkK)
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Recent polling seem to indicate reliably red states that were 'no way we are going to vote for Trump' coming around to his side - recent polls in Arizona, Utah, Georgia.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:30 PM (a0IVu)
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Jeez, what time is it?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 17, 2016 03:16 PM (TnUKj)
It's time to put the Washington Office of Conservative Punditocracy, Inc. on suicide watch.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at May 17, 2016 03:16 PM (TnUKj)
It's time to put the Washington Office of Conservative Punditocracy, Inc. on suicide watch.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet sponsors the fifteen part series: #NeverTrump: Holding Out for a Hero at May 17, 2016 03:30 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 17, 2016 03:30 PM (X+nFp)
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Just run She wants to take your guns and coal jobs ads, and watch PA go Trump.
Posted by: Chupacabra at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (CGjum)
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Arizona polling just came out showing Trump 40% to Hillary 38%. That's a statistical tie.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (mcm0N)
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Mind the gap.
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (JO9+V)
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Clinton has never had a race where she's been seriously attacked on the enormous pile of skeletons in her closet. Don Trump is *not* Rick Lazio. He's going to start throatpunching her and not let up.
That said, Trump himself hasn't ever been subjected to the blistering level of ridicule and contempt which the vast left-wing conspiracy and its media machine routinely bring to bear on Republican candidates. He complains that _Megyn Kelly_ was hard on him? He has no earthly idea what the next few months will be like.
Really, first off, any GOP presidential aspirant needs to sit down with capsule histories of how the media will abruptly shift their attitudes to Republicans after the nomination has been secured. This has to be understood.
McCain went from being described by the media as a proud and independent "maverick", the journalists regularly playing up to that image with which he himself is so obsessed, to the media calling him senile and ill and angry and unfit, within hours of his locking up the '08 nomination.
Romney went from being described as the accomplished, calm, responsible adult in the room while vying for the nomination, to being a cold calculating corporate thug who murdered Joe Soptic's wife for illicit profits to be stashed in a Cayman Islands numbered account. Again, this enormous sea change in coverage beginning within hours of the Mittbot taking the nomination.
That said, Trump himself hasn't ever been subjected to the blistering level of ridicule and contempt which the vast left-wing conspiracy and its media machine routinely bring to bear on Republican candidates. He complains that _Megyn Kelly_ was hard on him? He has no earthly idea what the next few months will be like.
Really, first off, any GOP presidential aspirant needs to sit down with capsule histories of how the media will abruptly shift their attitudes to Republicans after the nomination has been secured. This has to be understood.
McCain went from being described by the media as a proud and independent "maverick", the journalists regularly playing up to that image with which he himself is so obsessed, to the media calling him senile and ill and angry and unfit, within hours of his locking up the '08 nomination.
Romney went from being described as the accomplished, calm, responsible adult in the room while vying for the nomination, to being a cold calculating corporate thug who murdered Joe Soptic's wife for illicit profits to be stashed in a Cayman Islands numbered account. Again, this enormous sea change in coverage beginning within hours of the Mittbot taking the nomination.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (noWW6)
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Crooked Hillary, Pocahontas, crazy Bernie, energizer Bill...I like it...
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (a0IVu)
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The Benghazi Biotch just wants to bring out the best in America, like death threats from welfare queens.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:32 PM (HgMAr)
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Hateful Hillary? Hideous Hillary? Hungry Hillary? Hapless Hillary?
For some reason, I think the alliteration works better for the general.
For some reason, I think the alliteration works better for the general.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 17, 2016 03:32 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:32 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Huma Abedin at May 17, 2016 03:33 PM (UeYhU)
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And I see ace got into the Primer again.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:33 PM (mf5HN)
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I'd pick someone like G Gordon Liddy. Someone that terrifies the press and has absolutely no pity or concern for what others think or will say. Someone with contempt for the media.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)
Oh you mean Ann Coulter?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)
Oh you mean Ann Coulter?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2016 03:33 PM (4ErVI)
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Give me breakouts for FL, OH, PA, VA, IA with likely voters and I'll give you a true picture of the race to 270 electoral votes.
Posted by: WisRich at May 17, 2016 03:22 PM (hdpay)
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Iowa???
Posted by: WisRich at May 17, 2016 03:22 PM (hdpay)
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Iowa???
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (8XRCm)
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One VERY important thing to keep in mid about "national polls". The Presidential election is NOT a national election. It is an election by State and in particular a few so-called purple States that decide the election. How the candidates do in those States is all important.
The other thing to keep in mind is turnout. Polls do not measure turnout and turnout in those important swing States will do it. And right now the pundits are fully expecting a low turnout for Scankles. While she has rabidly crazy supporters, she also has some colossal negatives, especially among men, and even white women who apparently hate her ugly ass.
The other thing to keep in mind is turnout. Polls do not measure turnout and turnout in those important swing States will do it. And right now the pundits are fully expecting a low turnout for Scankles. While she has rabidly crazy supporters, she also has some colossal negatives, especially among men, and even white women who apparently hate her ugly ass.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (vvmPQ)
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45 Will there be metal chairs at the first Trump/Hillarrhoids debate?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
IF there is a debate. I think Trump would bury her.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (V/InG)
I think so too.
And I bet she thinks the same thing. She's got a glass jaw, a personality like a splintered toilet seat, and way more baggage than will ever fit into the overhead compartment. Her only chance in a debate would be if her opponent were too gentlemanly to bring up any of this, but that's not going to be a problem for Trump.
Suck it, Dems and MSM: by demonizing gentlemanly candidates in the past, you created the need for a Trump. And now, you've got one.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (HgMAr)
IF there is a debate. I think Trump would bury her.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (V/InG)
I think so too.
And I bet she thinks the same thing. She's got a glass jaw, a personality like a splintered toilet seat, and way more baggage than will ever fit into the overhead compartment. Her only chance in a debate would be if her opponent were too gentlemanly to bring up any of this, but that's not going to be a problem for Trump.
Suck it, Dems and MSM: by demonizing gentlemanly candidates in the past, you created the need for a Trump. And now, you've got one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (oKE6c)
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Polls are one indicator, but another factor is enthusiasm...
Trump continues to pack stadiums, with people standing in the rain for hours to see him.
Hillary's advance people need to pay warm bodies to fill the Harvest Room at the local Cracker Barrel Restaurant.
It's hard to see how this is much of a contest.
Trump continues to pack stadiums, with people standing in the rain for hours to see him.
Hillary's advance people need to pay warm bodies to fill the Harvest Room at the local Cracker Barrel Restaurant.
It's hard to see how this is much of a contest.
Posted by: jwest at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (Zs4uk)
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Ahem.
National polls don't matter!
*scampers off*
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:32 PM (mf5H
Somewhere a short err tiny voice is crying in the wilderness.
Nah. I'm prolly just hallucinating again.
National polls don't matter!
*scampers off*
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:32 PM (mf5H
Somewhere a short err tiny voice is crying in the wilderness.
Nah. I'm prolly just hallucinating again.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (X+nFp)
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I'd pick someone like G Gordon Liddy. Someone that terrifies the press and has absolutely no pity or concern for what others think or will say. Someone with contempt for the media.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)
He still around??
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)
He still around??
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (LdVxD)
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Just run She wants to take your guns and coal jobs ads, and watch PA go Trump.
Pshhh, who cares? Bitter clingers living in the hills marrying their sisters. We outnumber them in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh anyway.
Pshhh, who cares? Bitter clingers living in the hills marrying their sisters. We outnumber them in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh anyway.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (39g3+)
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It's time to put the Washington Office of Conservative Punditocracy, Inc. on suicide watch.
Good thing there's a height restriction on DC buildings.
Good thing there's a height restriction on DC buildings.
Posted by: DaveA at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (DL2i+)
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Tanned, rested, and ready to spell potato.
Posted by: Dan Quayle at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (JO9+V)
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I hope Trump brings back the old-timey tradition of free drinks for his voters. I could use a shot of tequila before I pull the lever for authoritarianism over criminality.
Posted by: MTF at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (/m8T6)
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Out here the Ron Paul delegates from the last caucuses all have Bernie signs in their yards...I tend to think the Ron Paul voters went that way and not to Trump.
Posted by: doug at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (Y7fRE)
Not here. They used the Trump people to gain power, and are happily purging the party of any leadership that disagrees with them, be they establishment or conservative.
The Trump people seem to be doing that everywhere.
Posted by: doug at May 17, 2016 03:28 PM (Y7fRE)
Not here. They used the Trump people to gain power, and are happily purging the party of any leadership that disagrees with them, be they establishment or conservative.
The Trump people seem to be doing that everywhere.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (vBeA5)
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WOO-WOO!!!
Posted by: Trump Train at May 17, 2016 03:36 PM (10hEu)
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Oh you mean Ann Coulter?
The only person Ann Coulter scares is the drunk next to her at the bar at closing time, eyeing her prominent Adam's apple
Oh you mean Ann Coulter?
The only person Ann Coulter scares is the drunk next to her at the bar at closing time, eyeing her prominent Adam's apple
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+)
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In other words, what would have been a great year to defeat the Dems won't be... because of Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
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p-p-p-p-please...... m-m-m-m-make.... it..... s-s-s-s-s-stop
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
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p-p-p-p-please...... m-m-m-m-make.... it..... s-s-s-s-s-stop
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 03:36 PM (8XRCm)
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If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
..........................
Then he can play his broken record on the teleprompter to make sure he doesn't stop repeating himself.
If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
..........................
Then he can play his broken record on the teleprompter to make sure he doesn't stop repeating himself.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:36 PM (HgMAr)
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Would this be a good time to ruminate about my fantasy voting system?
My fantasy voting system would allow voters to cast their vote either *for* a particular candidate (in which case their total rises by one) or *against* a particular candidate (in which case their total is lowered by one).
That way, you could have situations where the winner is the candidate with the lowest negative tally. Wouldn't that be awesome? I could vote against Hillary without having to vote for Trump.
My fantasy voting system would allow voters to cast their vote either *for* a particular candidate (in which case their total rises by one) or *against* a particular candidate (in which case their total is lowered by one).
That way, you could have situations where the winner is the candidate with the lowest negative tally. Wouldn't that be awesome? I could vote against Hillary without having to vote for Trump.
Posted by: Kensington at May 17, 2016 03:36 PM (7Kbxu)
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If the Dems end up with Hillary, some of those Sanders folks will end up voting Trump.
Or, to put it another way, who has more cross-party appeal, Trump or Hillary? How many of the #neverTrump crowd will actually pull the lever for Hillary vs how many Sanders supporters will be willing to go Trump.
And then of course, the middle. Who will be more palatable to people unaligned with either party?
Or, to put it another way, who has more cross-party appeal, Trump or Hillary? How many of the #neverTrump crowd will actually pull the lever for Hillary vs how many Sanders supporters will be willing to go Trump.
And then of course, the middle. Who will be more palatable to people unaligned with either party?
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (R+30W)
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There are a lot of Bernie supporters who say #NeverHillary
Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (3wHFl)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (mcm0N)
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47 Recent polling seem to indicate reliably red states that were 'no way we are going to vote for Trump' coming around to his side - recent polls in Arizona, Utah, Georgia.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:30 PM (a0IVu)
Somewhere Ben Howe is sitting in a closed garage with the car engine running.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:30 PM (a0IVu)
Somewhere Ben Howe is sitting in a closed garage with the car engine running.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (4ErVI)
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Anyone watching the Megyn Kelley exclusive tonight? Apparently, she gets to run her fingers through his hair; if that is true, it's just plain weird.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (a0IVu)
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In other words, what would have been a great year to defeat the Dems won't be... because of Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Who beat all of the people who supposedly would beat Hillary.
Hey, it's not like I'm a Trump supporter, what with the whole not being a Trump supporter, but Trump is the one left standing.
If you can't beat freaking Donald Trump, why should I believe you can beat Hillary?
Dear God. It's going to be Trump Hillary (or Sanders) for our sins.
Unless Biden parachutes in and we got the Trump Biden debate with someone being called a lying motherfucker, someone taking a swing and hair plugs all over the stage.
Look, leave me my dreams. They're all I have left.
Well my dreams and this remote.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Who beat all of the people who supposedly would beat Hillary.
Hey, it's not like I'm a Trump supporter, what with the whole not being a Trump supporter, but Trump is the one left standing.
If you can't beat freaking Donald Trump, why should I believe you can beat Hillary?
Dear God. It's going to be Trump Hillary (or Sanders) for our sins.
Unless Biden parachutes in and we got the Trump Biden debate with someone being called a lying motherfucker, someone taking a swing and hair plugs all over the stage.
Look, leave me my dreams. They're all I have left.
Well my dreams and this remote.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (mf5HN)
83
75
If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
Well, he isn't going to tap Ace for that job.
If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
Well, he isn't going to tap Ace for that job.
Posted by: jwest at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (Zs4uk)
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Trump has a chance the same way that anyone (including poor candidates like McCain has a chance). You win one of the nomination slots for the two major parties in the USA, you have a shot to be president.
But Trump's chance is a poor one. The polling will close, to show a horserace, as it always does. Politics is big business -- the polling firms will stretch to make their product viable through the fall. There will be much gnashing of teeth.
In the end, perhaps Trump will win, but I doubt it. He needs to expand the Romney map and I don't buy that he will turn Dem strongholds like NY.
Who knows, maybe Hillary will impode. Maybe the country wants to move beyond the Obama era and will overlook Trump's many, many faults and hold its nose at the ballot box. Hillary is another poor candidate, albeit one with a greater baked-in margin for error.
Figure Trump has about a 30% chance of victory, and I think that's being generous.
But Trump's chance is a poor one. The polling will close, to show a horserace, as it always does. Politics is big business -- the polling firms will stretch to make their product viable through the fall. There will be much gnashing of teeth.
In the end, perhaps Trump will win, but I doubt it. He needs to expand the Romney map and I don't buy that he will turn Dem strongholds like NY.
Who knows, maybe Hillary will impode. Maybe the country wants to move beyond the Obama era and will overlook Trump's many, many faults and hold its nose at the ballot box. Hillary is another poor candidate, albeit one with a greater baked-in margin for error.
Figure Trump has about a 30% chance of victory, and I think that's being generous.
Posted by: Revenant at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (y64uP)
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But but but but races never change!
Does this factor in the Bill Kristol Party and their hotfire juggernaut candidate?
Does this factor in the Bill Kristol Party and their hotfire juggernaut candidate?
Posted by: Carrol O'Connor at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (Mt8T4)
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AoSHq Time, Space, Continium strikes again
Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (3wHFl)
87
She is a horrible, horrible candidate
She's a horrible, horrible human being. I think we should sneak a priest into her camp so that he can work an exorcism on her.
I'm waiting for her to give a speech where her head spins around and pea soup spews out of her mouth.
She's a horrible, horrible human being. I think we should sneak a priest into her camp so that he can work an exorcism on her.
I'm waiting for her to give a speech where her head spins around and pea soup spews out of her mouth.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (SXU3d)
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Not here. They used the Trump people to gain power, and are happily
purging the party of any leadership that disagrees with them, be they
establishment or conservative.
The Trump people seem to be doing that everywhere.
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Isn't that what you've been suggesting conservatives do for years, now?
purging the party of any leadership that disagrees with them, be they
establishment or conservative.
The Trump people seem to be doing that everywhere.
--
Isn't that what you've been suggesting conservatives do for years, now?
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (ZbV+0)
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Trump continues to pack stadiums, with people standing in the rain for hours to see him.
Hillary's advance people need to pay warm bodies to fill the Harvest Room at the local Cracker Barrel Restaurant.
It's hard to see how this is much of a contest.
Posted by: jwest at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (Zs4uk)
I've seen this movie before, starring S. Palin.
Hillary's advance people need to pay warm bodies to fill the Harvest Room at the local Cracker Barrel Restaurant.
It's hard to see how this is much of a contest.
Posted by: jwest at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (Zs4uk)
I've seen this movie before, starring S. Palin.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (M0ddJ)
90
A lot of people are sure confident predicting the most wild, unpredictable, and crazy election in US history.
Lets face it folks. We don't even know what's going to happen a week from now, let alone months out.
Lets face it folks. We don't even know what's going to happen a week from now, let alone months out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)
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Trump will kill Hillary in the general.
Big danger IMO is that Hillary will lose the FBI primary, and Biden jumps in with Warren. In about three weeks, Hillary would be forgotten, and it will be a whole new ballgame.
Big danger IMO is that Hillary will lose the FBI primary, and Biden jumps in with Warren. In about three weeks, Hillary would be forgotten, and it will be a whole new ballgame.
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (aeVIR)
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Clinton has never had a race where she's been seriously attacked on the enormous pile of skeletons in her closet. Don Trump is *not* Rick Lazio. He's going to start throatpunching her and not let up.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (noWW6)
Trump and his supporters seem to busy attacking the "cucks".
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (noWW6)
Trump and his supporters seem to busy attacking the "cucks".
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (vBeA5)
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NC has been a close victory for Romney (2012) and a close victory for Obama (200
. I don't know what column we really belong in.
. I don't know what column we really belong in.Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (2cS/G)
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"Would this be a good time to ruminate about my fantasy voting system?"
See also: the None Of The Above option.
If this option outpolls all candidates in the race, they all lose. The race is conducted again from the primary level, without them.
See also: the None Of The Above option.
If this option outpolls all candidates in the race, they all lose. The race is conducted again from the primary level, without them.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (noWW6)
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So Arizona a statistical tie today, Georgia officially put in the toss up column by The Cook Report, and Utah getting interesting.
Jezzuz.
Jezzuz.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (mcm0N)
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In other words, what would have been a great year to defeat the Dems won't be... because of Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
I too blame Trump - for beating all of the regular GOP candidates seven ways to Sunday, because we all know that the guys who couldn't make the playoffs were just the crew to clinch the Superbowl.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
I too blame Trump - for beating all of the regular GOP candidates seven ways to Sunday, because we all know that the guys who couldn't make the playoffs were just the crew to clinch the Superbowl.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet sponsors the fifteen part series: #NeverTrump: Holding Out for a Hero at May 17, 2016 03:40 PM (hLRSq)
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87, I'm waiting for her to give a speech where her head spins around and pea soup spews out of her mouth.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (SXU3d)
The visual I had would have scared Satan himself.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (SXU3d)
The visual I had would have scared Satan himself.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:40 PM (a0IVu)
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Hasn't started? That video of the Democrats in Nevada throwing chairs just gave Jerry Springer and Phil Donahue boners.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 17, 2016 03:40 PM (O0lVq)
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Give me breakouts for FL, OH, PA, VA, IA with likely voters and I'll give you a true picture of the race to 270 electoral votes.
Posted by: WisRich at May 17, 2016 03:22 PM (hdpay)
Dave in Fla would know.
Posted by: WisRich at May 17, 2016 03:22 PM (hdpay)
Dave in Fla would know.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 17, 2016 03:40 PM (QPdNE)
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/slutty sock
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:40 PM (R+30W)
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Lets face it folks. We don't even know what's going to happen a week from now, let alone months out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)
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THIS.
Remember boys and girls.... Nat Silver was the only one that got the last election "right".
Nate Fucking Silver.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)
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THIS.
Remember boys and girls.... Nat Silver was the only one that got the last election "right".
Nate Fucking Silver.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 03:40 PM (8XRCm)
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"That said, Trump himself hasn't ever been subjected to the blistering level of ridicule and contempt which the vast left-wing conspiracy and its media machine routinely bring to bear on Republican candidates. He complains that _Megyn Kelly_ was hard on him? He has no earthly idea what the next few months will be like."
Media is going to go in the tank for Trump because ratings. They may not intend to, but they will.
Media is going to go in the tank for Trump because ratings. They may not intend to, but they will.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (n/ogz)
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Now--thanks to Trump--it's a statistical tie.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
You left out a few things: Thanks to the GOP, thanks to Romney for endorsing katshit, thanks tho lady Lindsey etc.
Trump alone? No, this fuck up is far bigger than that.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
You left out a few things: Thanks to the GOP, thanks to Romney for endorsing katshit, thanks tho lady Lindsey etc.
Trump alone? No, this fuck up is far bigger than that.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (326rv)
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It's almost certain that it's way too early to start wrapping our cocks (sorry atc) in the polls.
Many things can, and will, change.
Events, dear boy.
An economic implosion, a terrorist attack, and indictment, Hillary's head explodes from a stroke, etc.
Many things can, and will, change.
Events, dear boy.
An economic implosion, a terrorist attack, and indictment, Hillary's head explodes from a stroke, etc.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (4ErVI)
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I too blame Trump - for beating all of the regular GOP candidates seven ways to Sunday, because we all know that the guys who couldn't make the playoffs were just the crew to clinch the Superbowl.
Lindsey Graham's underinflated balls would have done it.
Lindsey Graham's underinflated balls would have done it.
Posted by: Carrol O'Connor at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (Mt8T4)
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Did it count dead and mentally incapacitated people that need help voting?
Because that always seems to put Democrats over the edge.
Because that always seems to put Democrats over the edge.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (O0lVq)
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It's way too early to put much value on these polls.
I think Trump has a very good shot, much better than many people seem to think. Am I right? Who knows.
But it's still way too early.
I think Trump has a very good shot, much better than many people seem to think. Am I right? Who knows.
But it's still way too early.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (Zq8pH)
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Anyone watching the Megyn Kelley exclusive tonight? Apparently, she gets to run her fingers through his hair; if that is true, it's just plain weird.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (a0IVu)
..........................
The two "Digme"s collide.
Anyone watching the Megyn Kelley exclusive tonight? Apparently, she gets to run her fingers through his hair; if that is true, it's just plain weird.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (a0IVu)
..........................
The two "Digme"s collide.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (HgMAr)
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It'll be interesting to see the "unification" in the Democrat Party. The chasm is pretty wide. And the Dems have now grown a crop of nasty, bitter, whiny wimps and community organizers a la obama, holder, la raza, soros, occupy, blm, sharpton, jackson, unions, greenies, group bullies and whiny little b*tches in general. They got what they've taught their tribe. Hillary masquerade around as one of them, and now she got them. Many of the Bernie people are hyper-radicalized (again, a la all of the hype spewed by the liberal media and the liberal freaks, like the current administration).
My hope is, they finally reap what they have sown.
It'll be interesting to see the "unification" in the Democrat Party. The chasm is pretty wide. And the Dems have now grown a crop of nasty, bitter, whiny wimps and community organizers a la obama, holder, la raza, soros, occupy, blm, sharpton, jackson, unions, greenies, group bullies and whiny little b*tches in general. They got what they've taught their tribe. Hillary masquerade around as one of them, and now she got them. Many of the Bernie people are hyper-radicalized (again, a la all of the hype spewed by the liberal media and the liberal freaks, like the current administration).
My hope is, they finally reap what they have sown.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (qCMvj)
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Worst case scenario is that Trump barely wins, and then all the people who've been proping up the economy drop the ball big time the day after the inauguration.
Hoover 2.0: Electric New Deal-aloo
Hoover 2.0: Electric New Deal-aloo
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (vBeA5)
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I've seen this movie before, starring S. Palin.
Romney was pulling better than Obama, too. Nobody wanted to go to his speeches but they still lined up to vote.
Romney was pulling better than Obama, too. Nobody wanted to go to his speeches but they still lined up to vote.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (39g3+)
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92 Clinton has never had a race where she's been seriously attacked on the enormous pile of skeletons in her closet. Don Trump is *not* Rick Lazio. He's going to start throatpunching her and not let up.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (noWW6)
Trump and his supporters seem to busy attacking the "cucks".
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (vBeA5)
++++
Has Trump ever used the term "cuck"? Has he ever associated himself with the term?
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (noWW6)
Trump and his supporters seem to busy attacking the "cucks".
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (vBeA5)
++++
Has Trump ever used the term "cuck"? Has he ever associated himself with the term?
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (R+30W)
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But Trump's chance is a poor one. The polling will close, to show a horserace, as it always does. Politics is big business -- the polling firms will stretch to make their product viable through the fall. There will be much gnashing of teeth.
*********
Ghee they might want some of that sweet, sweet campaign cash. That wouldn't have any influence--naaaa.
*********
Ghee they might want some of that sweet, sweet campaign cash. That wouldn't have any influence--naaaa.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (mcm0N)
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90 A lot of people are sure confident predicting the most wild, unpredictable, and crazy election in US history.
Lets face it folks. We don't even know what's going to happen a week from now, let alone months out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)
Exactly. Who thought Trump was going to be the nominee a year ago?
November is a long way off.
Lets face it folks. We don't even know what's going to happen a week from now, let alone months out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)
Exactly. Who thought Trump was going to be the nominee a year ago?
November is a long way off.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (u0lmX)
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (X+nFp)
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o Arizona a statistical tie today, Georgia officially put in the toss up column by The Cook Report, and Utah getting interesting.
Jezzuz.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
But wait...AZ has Pres. John McCain, the guy who was sooooo steady on the need to build a fence. Surely, He will save us.
Jezzuz.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
But wait...AZ has Pres. John McCain, the guy who was sooooo steady on the need to build a fence. Surely, He will save us.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (326rv)
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"Not here. They used the Trump people to gain power, and are happily
purging the party of any leadership that disagrees with them, be they
establishment or conservative."
Unless I am totally mistaken about politics, the winners put their allies into offices and positions and purge the people who were antagonistic.
Blast it all! Why is that Trump acting like he won?
purging the party of any leadership that disagrees with them, be they
establishment or conservative."
Unless I am totally mistaken about politics, the winners put their allies into offices and positions and purge the people who were antagonistic.
Blast it all! Why is that Trump acting like he won?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet sponsors the fifteen part series: #NeverTrump: Holding Out for a Hero at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (hLRSq)
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It's way too early to put much value on these polls.
I think Trump has a very good shot, much better than many people seem to think. Am I right? Who knows.
But it's still way too early.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (Zq8pH)
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This. The purpose of polling at this point is NOT to determine what you think....
....it's to *influence* what you think. And some of you have been severely influenced by the very media you hate.
I think Trump has a very good shot, much better than many people seem to think. Am I right? Who knows.
But it's still way too early.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at May 17, 2016 03:41 PM (Zq8pH)
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This. The purpose of polling at this point is NOT to determine what you think....
....it's to *influence* what you think. And some of you have been severely influenced by the very media you hate.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (8XRCm)
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See also: the None Of The Above option.
If this option outpolls
all candidates in the race, they all lose. The race is conducted again
from the primary level, without them.
---
Add a lifetime ban for that office, and you may be on to something
If this option outpolls
all candidates in the race, they all lose. The race is conducted again
from the primary level, without them.
---
Add a lifetime ban for that office, and you may be on to something
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (ZbV+0)
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Just use the time machine that Ace totes doesn't have, and see who won the General. Shit, do I have to do all the thinking around here?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (dEmhF)
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Hilly may have to go so far Left to court the Berntards that she can't tack Right in the general.
Posted by: Carrol O'Connor at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (Mt8T4)
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Has Trump ever used the term "cuck"? Has he ever associated himself with the term?
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (R+30W)
*********
John Barron did, believe it!
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (R+30W)
*********
John Barron did, believe it!
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (mcm0N)
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Hillary's advance people need to pay warm bodies to fill the Harvest Room at the local Cracker Barrel Restaurant.
...............
and then she eats them.
Hillary's advance people need to pay warm bodies to fill the Harvest Room at the local Cracker Barrel Restaurant.
...............
and then she eats them.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:44 PM (HgMAr)
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Horrific moment Mexican monsters set a dog on fire and LAUGH as it runs around in agony
Dog tries to runs around in confusion for almost a minute as people watch
http://goo.gl/SR3Wss
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I hate humans.
Horrific moment Mexican monsters set a dog on fire and LAUGH as it runs around in agony
Dog tries to runs around in confusion for almost a minute as people watch
http://goo.gl/SR3Wss
===============
I hate humans.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 17, 2016 03:44 PM (iQIUe)
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See also: the None Of The Above option.
If
this option outpolls all candidates in the race, they all lose. The race
is conducted again from the primary level, without them.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM
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In our current circumstances, would Captain Choom get to stay Preznit until we finally choose somebody?
See also: the None Of The Above option.
If
this option outpolls all candidates in the race, they all lose. The race
is conducted again from the primary level, without them.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM
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In our current circumstances, would Captain Choom get to stay Preznit until we finally choose somebody?
Posted by: irright at May 17, 2016 03:44 PM (pMGkg)
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Things like Open Bathrooms and Lockers are game changers for some people
Wait a minute. Do "Open Bathrooms" mean that Hillary can use women's bathrooms?
Oh, hell no! I'd rather share the bathrooms with trannies.
Wait a minute. Do "Open Bathrooms" mean that Hillary can use women's bathrooms?
Oh, hell no! I'd rather share the bathrooms with trannies.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 17, 2016 03:44 PM (SXU3d)
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Just think about this for a minute...
Trump is the only person who is going into a presidential election without an established backroom operation in recorded history.
Whole agencies will be up for grabs.
A group of interested citizens could, if they wanted, do the homework and prepare an entire agenda with suggested appointments to implement when the time comes.
How cool would that be?
Who else does Trump have to rely on when the transition team asks "who is the person to talk to about (fill in the blank)?"
No bricks and mortar required, all virtual.
Trump is the only person who is going into a presidential election without an established backroom operation in recorded history.
Whole agencies will be up for grabs.
A group of interested citizens could, if they wanted, do the homework and prepare an entire agenda with suggested appointments to implement when the time comes.
How cool would that be?
Who else does Trump have to rely on when the transition team asks "who is the person to talk to about (fill in the blank)?"
No bricks and mortar required, all virtual.
Posted by: jwest at May 17, 2016 03:45 PM (Zs4uk)
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Trump will kill Hillary in the general.
Big danger IMO is that Hillary will lose the FBI primary, and Biden jumps in with Warren. In about three weeks, Hillary would be forgotten, and it will be a whole new ballgame.
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (aeVIR)
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That's what I've been sayin'. In addition: Biden will play the dead son card.
Trump will kill Hillary in the general.
Big danger IMO is that Hillary will lose the FBI primary, and Biden jumps in with Warren. In about three weeks, Hillary would be forgotten, and it will be a whole new ballgame.
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (aeVIR)
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That's what I've been sayin'. In addition: Biden will play the dead son card.
Posted by: iforgot at May 17, 2016 03:45 PM (pC96u)
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Hilary is painted into a corner on the VP pick.
Pick a man? Piss off da wyminz
Pick a wyminz? Won't help
Pick a Hispanic? Piss off blacks
Pick a black? Piss off Hispanics
Etcetera, etcetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
You made that bed, Hilary, lie in it, shitbird.
Pick a man? Piss off da wyminz
Pick a wyminz? Won't help
Pick a Hispanic? Piss off blacks
Pick a black? Piss off Hispanics
Etcetera, etcetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
You made that bed, Hilary, lie in it, shitbird.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 03:45 PM (kTF2Z)
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It might be possible in Pennsylvania Trump could win, if the Democrats stay home in discuss maybe if the Hillery bad news continues or if she does what she did in W.V. Ancient shoot herself in the foot screaming about firearm confiscation.
Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2016 03:45 PM (3wHFl)
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Look, leave me my dreams. They're all I have left.
Well my dreams and this remote.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (mf5HN)
The IRS just called, they want the dreams
Well my dreams and this remote.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:38 PM (mf5HN)
The IRS just called, they want the dreams
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (QPdNE)
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Really, first off, any GOP presidential aspirant needs to sit down with capsule histories of how the media will abruptly shift their attitudes to Republicans after the nomination has been secured. This has to be understood.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (noWW6)
Apparently, understanding is for sissies. Shouting is where the answer lies.
The answer to what, it remains to be seen.
I have very little if any hope that this election will result in anything but disaster no matter what happens.
I am horrified to discover that the best alternative seems to be President Semi-Literate Douchebag accomplishing virtually nothing between fits of flailing and screaming, to be accompanied by four years of hysteria followed by another mad election.
Possibly also accompanied by economic collapse and fighting in the streets, Chinese aggression in Asia and a nuclear exchange in the Middle East.
I think there might be some kind of giant meteor or alien plague in there.
It's not as funny as it sounds. I keep telling people it won't be the end of the world no matter what happens, and it won't, but there's the potential for a really ugly period on a really large scale.
Posted by: torquewrench at May 17, 2016 03:31 PM (noWW6)
Apparently, understanding is for sissies. Shouting is where the answer lies.
The answer to what, it remains to be seen.
I have very little if any hope that this election will result in anything but disaster no matter what happens.
I am horrified to discover that the best alternative seems to be President Semi-Literate Douchebag accomplishing virtually nothing between fits of flailing and screaming, to be accompanied by four years of hysteria followed by another mad election.
Possibly also accompanied by economic collapse and fighting in the streets, Chinese aggression in Asia and a nuclear exchange in the Middle East.
I think there might be some kind of giant meteor or alien plague in there.
It's not as funny as it sounds. I keep telling people it won't be the end of the world no matter what happens, and it won't, but there's the potential for a really ugly period on a really large scale.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (wB8Tg)
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Ghee they might want some of that sweet, sweet campaign cash. That wouldn't have any influence--naaaa.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (mcm0N)
*****This is why candidates pay for private polling, which (at least in theory) is not biased in the way that public polling is. Trump, of course, has eschewed private polling.I'm sure that the adults in the RNC won't follow Trump's lead on that.
Ghee they might want some of that sweet, sweet campaign cash. That wouldn't have any influence--naaaa.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (mcm0N)
*****This is why candidates pay for private polling, which (at least in theory) is not biased in the way that public polling is. Trump, of course, has eschewed private polling.I'm sure that the adults in the RNC won't follow Trump's lead on that.
Posted by: Revenant at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (y64uP)
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It helps that the Dems are falling apart. I don't mean just Hillary vs. Bernie, either. Look at Big Labor vs. Eco-Warriors which has an even bigger chance of a meltdown. Add to all this the social justice warriors are now into the part of the revolution called the"eat their own" phase. It is likely the Democrat convention is going to be ugly.
This is where Trump comes in. He is divisive to the GOP, but people forget he can also be divisive to the Democrats. His views on trade, companies that go overseas, illegal immigration, etc., have only widened those policy gaps in the Democrat party. A typical standard issue Republican would have a much harder time exploiting those divisions.
This is where Trump comes in. He is divisive to the GOP, but people forget he can also be divisive to the Democrats. His views on trade, companies that go overseas, illegal immigration, etc., have only widened those policy gaps in the Democrat party. A typical standard issue Republican would have a much harder time exploiting those divisions.
Posted by: William Eaton at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (LA7Cm)
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This just underscored what a TERRIBLE candidate Hillary is.
Probably due in no small part to her being a terrible PERSON.
I like to imagine with each new bit of bad news, whether it's Bernie winning another primary or toxic Trump being on par with her in a poll, that she is yelling at staff and throwing things. Keep pushing that blood pressure, Hills!!
Probably due in no small part to her being a terrible PERSON.
I like to imagine with each new bit of bad news, whether it's Bernie winning another primary or toxic Trump being on par with her in a poll, that she is yelling at staff and throwing things. Keep pushing that blood pressure, Hills!!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (NOIQH)
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In other words, what would have been a great year to defeat the Dems won't be... because of Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Why would you blame Trump for the performance of the other GOP candidates ?
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Why would you blame Trump for the performance of the other GOP candidates ?
Posted by: dDan at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (hwYmz)
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I think Romney hating Trump got Trump at least 10 statistical points alone.
I never hated a weak-ass, effete, effeminate pussy candidate more than Romney. I hated pulling the lever for that guy. It almost felt dirty and I wanted to cry in the shower and wash myself with a Chore-Boy and Mechanix hand-cleaner.
When he opened his mouth, which he couldn't or wouldn't do against Obama it may me want to spin into a rage akin to a sexual assault victim.
I never hated a weak-ass, effete, effeminate pussy candidate more than Romney. I hated pulling the lever for that guy. It almost felt dirty and I wanted to cry in the shower and wash myself with a Chore-Boy and Mechanix hand-cleaner.
When he opened his mouth, which he couldn't or wouldn't do against Obama it may me want to spin into a rage akin to a sexual assault victim.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (O0lVq)
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It'll be interesting to see the "unification" in the
Democrat Party. The chasm is pretty wide. And the Dems have now grown
a crop of nasty, bitter, whiny wimps and community organizers a la
obama, holder, la raza, soros, occupy, blm, sharpton, jackson, unions,
greenies, group bullies and whiny little b*tches in general. They got
what they've taught their tribe. Hillary masquerade around as one of
them, and now she got them. Many of the Bernie people are
hyper-radicalized (again, a la all of the hype spewed by the liberal
media and the liberal freaks, like the current administration).
My hope is, they finally reap what they have sown.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (qCMvj)
It's "Air America," writ large. Dems have cobbled together a disparate set of constituencies that hate each other. The only way to herd those cats is to tell each one - out of earshot of the others - just what they want to hear. Air America failed, I think, because they couldn't narrow-cast their message that way. Now the Dems have the same problem on a national scale. Every group is pulling out its IOU, and comparing it with the other groups', and starting to realize they've been had.
Democrat Party. The chasm is pretty wide. And the Dems have now grown
a crop of nasty, bitter, whiny wimps and community organizers a la
obama, holder, la raza, soros, occupy, blm, sharpton, jackson, unions,
greenies, group bullies and whiny little b*tches in general. They got
what they've taught their tribe. Hillary masquerade around as one of
them, and now she got them. Many of the Bernie people are
hyper-radicalized (again, a la all of the hype spewed by the liberal
media and the liberal freaks, like the current administration).
My hope is, they finally reap what they have sown.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (qCMvj)
It's "Air America," writ large. Dems have cobbled together a disparate set of constituencies that hate each other. The only way to herd those cats is to tell each one - out of earshot of the others - just what they want to hear. Air America failed, I think, because they couldn't narrow-cast their message that way. Now the Dems have the same problem on a national scale. Every group is pulling out its IOU, and comparing it with the other groups', and starting to realize they've been had.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (oKE6c)
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Hillary is all over the place with what she is saying:
1. We will continue Barack Obama's policies
2. Everyone is hurting in this economy and we are going to change things and get the middle class working.
3. We will put the coal miners out of work.
4. We will look out for the coal miners.
5. I have a great plan to get our economy moving and creating new jobs.
6. I will put Bill Clinton in charge of creating jobs,
1. We will continue Barack Obama's policies
2. Everyone is hurting in this economy and we are going to change things and get the middle class working.
3. We will put the coal miners out of work.
4. We will look out for the coal miners.
5. I have a great plan to get our economy moving and creating new jobs.
6. I will put Bill Clinton in charge of creating jobs,
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (a0IVu)
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But wait...AZ has Pres. John McCain, the guy who was sooooo steady on the need to build a fence. Surely, He will save us.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (326rv)
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Democrats are winning the Senate most likely so no domestic policies. But you get Trump's Putin embrace--if--he wins.
That's probably not happening either if he has to spend what camp cash he has to in Arizona.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (326rv)
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Democrats are winning the Senate most likely so no domestic policies. But you get Trump's Putin embrace--if--he wins.
That's probably not happening either if he has to spend what camp cash he has to in Arizona.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (mcm0N)
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And Georgia.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:48 PM (39g3+)
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Just use the time machine that Ace totes doesn't have, and see who won the General.
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I've seen the future. Trump wins and Kim Kardashian is his VP.
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I've seen the future. Trump wins and Kim Kardashian is his VP.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 03:48 PM (Nwg0u)
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Big danger IMO is that Hillary will lose the FBI primary, and Biden jumps in with Warren. In about three weeks, Hillary would be forgotten, and it will be a whole new ballgame.
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (aeVIR)
I've been saying for months that *if* the DOJ takes the leash off the FBI regarding Hillary, it will be because *their* paymasters decided that Hillary will lose to Trump.
I would not be surprised if that was the excuse for the last-minute tag-in of Biden.
Unless they think they can manage Sanders, but I think they think he will lose worse than Hillary.
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (aeVIR)
I've been saying for months that *if* the DOJ takes the leash off the FBI regarding Hillary, it will be because *their* paymasters decided that Hillary will lose to Trump.
I would not be surprised if that was the excuse for the last-minute tag-in of Biden.
Unless they think they can manage Sanders, but I think they think he will lose worse than Hillary.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 17, 2016 03:48 PM (wB8Tg)
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Horrific moment Mexican monsters set a dog on fire and LAUGH as it runs around in agony
They're just doing the jobs that Americans won't do hater
Horrific moment Mexican monsters set a dog on fire and LAUGH as it runs around in agony
They're just doing the jobs that Americans won't do hater
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 03:48 PM (lKyWE)
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Horrific moment Mexican monsters set a dog on fire and LAUGH as it runs around in agony
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Yeah, but note that a country known for its depravity, mass graves, and the odd face stapled to a soccer ball is full of savages and you're a h8er.
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Yeah, but note that a country known for its depravity, mass graves, and the odd face stapled to a soccer ball is full of savages and you're a h8er.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 17, 2016 03:49 PM (ZbV+0)
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OT: Franklin the Fair Housing Fox. He is a real mascot created by your government with your tax dollars.
https://twitter.com/conncarroll/status/732547082200965120
https://twitter.com/conncarroll/status/732547082200965120
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:49 PM (vBeA5)
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And I see ace got into the Primer again.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:33 PM (mf5HN)
He found the ewok-nip. Stoned outta his mind!
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 03:33 PM (mf5HN)
He found the ewok-nip. Stoned outta his mind!
Posted by: Count de Monet at May 17, 2016 03:49 PM (JO9+V)
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Exactly. Who thought Trump was going to be the nominee a year ago?
November is a long way off.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (u0lmX)
Certainly not Jeb! He tried to return a 'Clap For Bush' sign and I had to tell him all sales were final on custom orders.
November is a long way off.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (u0lmX)
Certainly not Jeb! He tried to return a 'Clap For Bush' sign and I had to tell him all sales were final on custom orders.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet sponsors the fifteen part series: #NeverTrump: Holding Out for a Hero at May 17, 2016 03:49 PM (hLRSq)
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@124 Do you really think anyone wants to see that? Jesus Christ.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2016 03:49 PM (2cS/G)
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Oh Empress? Does Bannion plan to have another meetup this year?
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (ByLlW)
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I love my dead gay son!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (u0s1P)
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*****This is why candidates pay for private polling, which (at least in theory) is not biased in the way that public polling is. Trump, of course, has eschewed private polling.I'm sure that the adults in the RNC won't follow Trump's lead on that.
Posted by: Revenant at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (y64uP)
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He already flip flopped on that and hired a pollster. It was in the news yesterday. Cannot remember the guy's name.
Posted by: Revenant at May 17, 2016 03:46 PM (y64uP)
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He already flip flopped on that and hired a pollster. It was in the news yesterday. Cannot remember the guy's name.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (mcm0N)
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I wish: Trump runs an infomercial for the Hillary accent machine; just add the Mason Dixon line. Play her speeches with similar lines, with and without the Grannie Clampett accent.
Finish up with trump listening and remarking to the camera, " and I'm the reality show guy!?!"
Finish up with trump listening and remarking to the camera, " and I'm the reality show guy!?!"
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (326rv)
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With the illegal alien vote...no, excuse me...the 'immigrant' vote, Clinton will probably win. Isn't that the point of President Lawless opening the floodgates?
Posted by: MsYoung at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (NcKR+)
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (qCMvj)
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Romney won Arizona
53.48% to 44.45%
Now--thanks to Trump--it's a statistical tie.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (mcm0N)
According to Rachel Madcow in the linked video about the brawl, Romney lost by six to Obama in Az.
53.48% to 44.45%
Now--thanks to Trump--it's a statistical tie.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:37 PM (mcm0N)
According to Rachel Madcow in the linked video about the brawl, Romney lost by six to Obama in Az.
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (kKHcp)
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Has Trump ever used the term "cuck"? Has he ever associated himself with the term?
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (R+30W)
His Alt-right fanatical supporters sure do.
And don't think that the media won't use them to crucify Trump.
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (R+30W)
His Alt-right fanatical supporters sure do.
And don't think that the media won't use them to crucify Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
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158
The Triggered Party versus the Trigger* Party.
*safety on
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (qCMvj)
I prefer "weapons free."
The Triggered Party versus the Trigger* Party.
*safety on
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (qCMvj)
I prefer "weapons free."
Posted by: Insomniac at May 17, 2016 03:52 PM (0mRoj)
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It'll be interesting to see the "unification" in the Democrat Party. The chasm is pretty wide. And the Dems have now grown a crop of nasty, bitter, whiny wimps and community organizers a la obama, holder, la raza, soros, occupy, blm, sharpton, jackson, unions, greenies, group bullies and whiny little b*tches in general.
My hope is, they finally reap what they have sown.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (qCMvj)
Yes, my initial reaction to the reports of Dem infighting was "meh. In the end, they'll all be good little sheeple and vote for Hillary because they're so sure the GOP will take tampons away from women and make everyone go to church."
But it's going to be awful difficult to paint Trump as a socon (which is why they are playing the "woman-hater" card).
And the Dems have become so intolerant of views that are not hard-left and so angry when anybody disagrees with them about anything that it's hard to think of the spoiled, entitled Berniebots shrugging their shoulders and saying "well, you win some, you lose some."
If there is one thing these people don't do, it's lose with grace and dignity.
My hope is, they finally reap what they have sown.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (qCMvj)
Yes, my initial reaction to the reports of Dem infighting was "meh. In the end, they'll all be good little sheeple and vote for Hillary because they're so sure the GOP will take tampons away from women and make everyone go to church."
But it's going to be awful difficult to paint Trump as a socon (which is why they are playing the "woman-hater" card).
And the Dems have become so intolerant of views that are not hard-left and so angry when anybody disagrees with them about anything that it's hard to think of the spoiled, entitled Berniebots shrugging their shoulders and saying "well, you win some, you lose some."
If there is one thing these people don't do, it's lose with grace and dignity.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 03:52 PM (u0lmX)
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Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
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I didnt know Bill Kristol posted here!!!
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I didnt know Bill Kristol posted here!!!
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 03:52 PM (8XRCm)
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When he opened his mouth, which he couldn't or wouldn't do against Obama it may me want to spin into a rage akin to a sexual assault victim.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (O0lVq)
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Most people here thought Romney defeated Obama handedly during the first two debates.
I know to that opinion has been refashioned by certain radio celebrities that never engage in the dialectic but only perform monologues.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (O0lVq)
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Most people here thought Romney defeated Obama handedly during the first two debates.
I know to that opinion has been refashioned by certain radio celebrities that never engage in the dialectic but only perform monologues.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (mcm0N)
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In other words, what would have been a great year to defeat the Dems won't be... because of Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Why would you blame Trump for the performance of the other GOP candidates ?
Posted by: dDan at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (hwYmz)
Coattails going the wrong way.
That, and the lack of ground game will destroy the down-ticket, especially in those states where the Trump supporters gained control, with little to know knowledge of how to run an actual campaign.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:26 PM (vBeA5)
Why would you blame Trump for the performance of the other GOP candidates ?
Posted by: dDan at May 17, 2016 03:47 PM (hwYmz)
Coattails going the wrong way.
That, and the lack of ground game will destroy the down-ticket, especially in those states where the Trump supporters gained control, with little to know knowledge of how to run an actual campaign.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (vBeA5)
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No way Bernie's kids accept a Joey choo choo parachute if Cruella goes down.
No way.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (X+nFp)
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Debbie Schultz will force them down. They will have no choice. However, they will kick and scream severely.
It will be the greatest thing since Joan Crawford beat the Kardashians with wire hangers. That never happened, but it should have.
No way Bernie's kids accept a Joey choo choo parachute if Cruella goes down.
No way.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at May 17, 2016 03:43 PM (X+nFp)
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Debbie Schultz will force them down. They will have no choice. However, they will kick and scream severely.
It will be the greatest thing since Joan Crawford beat the Kardashians with wire hangers. That never happened, but it should have.
Posted by: iforgot at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (pC96u)
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Tinfoil Hat prediction:
Obama will have to stay on as president if Trump wins due to all the rioting. Then the election will be decided by Robert's supreme court using some strange legal loophole. The Supes will decide the Hillary won due to some technicality. She will be sworn in some time in the next several years, but Obama will stay on as an advisor.
Obama will have to stay on as president if Trump wins due to all the rioting. Then the election will be decided by Robert's supreme court using some strange legal loophole. The Supes will decide the Hillary won due to some technicality. She will be sworn in some time in the next several years, but Obama will stay on as an advisor.
Posted by: Max Power at May 17, 2016 03:54 PM (q177U)
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It will be the greatest thing since Joan Crawford beat the Kardashians with wire hangers. That never happened, but it should have.
NO. MORE. BUTT. INJECTIONS. EVER!!!
NO. MORE. BUTT. INJECTIONS. EVER!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 17, 2016 03:54 PM (0mRoj)
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But then, the unification process is already happening in the GOP<<<
My boy's going to help. NOT.
My boy's going to help. NOT.
Posted by: Irving at May 17, 2016 03:54 PM (rfjjV)
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Hilary is painted into a corner on the VP pick.
Pick a man? Piss off da wyminz
Pick a wyminz? Won't help
Pick a Hispanic? Piss off blacks
Pick a black? Piss off Hispanics
Etcetera, etcetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
You made that bed, Hilary, lie in it, shitbird.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 03:45 PM (kTF2Z)
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maybe she should pick a Tranny.
Hilary is painted into a corner on the VP pick.
Pick a man? Piss off da wyminz
Pick a wyminz? Won't help
Pick a Hispanic? Piss off blacks
Pick a black? Piss off Hispanics
Etcetera, etcetera, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
You made that bed, Hilary, lie in it, shitbird.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 03:45 PM (kTF2Z)
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maybe she should pick a Tranny.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:55 PM (HgMAr)
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And don't think that the media won't use them to crucify Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
The media has been painting everyone on the right with the "extremist" brush for so long that I find it hard to worry about this. For god's sake, the libs were screaming about Mitt taking away tampons and putting blacks back in chains - do you think it would have been different for Cruz?
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
The media has been painting everyone on the right with the "extremist" brush for so long that I find it hard to worry about this. For god's sake, the libs were screaming about Mitt taking away tampons and putting blacks back in chains - do you think it would have been different for Cruz?
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 03:55 PM (u0lmX)
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According to Rachel Madcow in the linked video about the brawl, Romney lost by six to Obama in Az.
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (kKHcp)
*******
Really?
Shit--off to go double check.
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (kKHcp)
*******
Really?
Shit--off to go double check.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:55 PM (mcm0N)
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And the Dems have become so intolerant of views that are not hard-left and so angry when anybody disagrees with them about anything that it's hard to think of the spoiled, entitled Berniebots shrugging their shoulders and saying "well, you win some, you lose some."
If there is one thing these people don't do, it's lose with grace and dignity.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 03:52 PM (u0lmX)
Exactly. How do you bring together a coalition of what amounts to hate groups, groups of special snowflakes that believe they are the #1 victims of whatever the crime is, who believe they are owed everything ahead of everyone else?
When you divide everyone into assigned victimization organizations, hard to imagine they won't play victim. Cater to groups that use violence, intimidation, and criminality, and you will get more of that.
If there is one thing these people don't do, it's lose with grace and dignity.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 03:52 PM (u0lmX)
Exactly. How do you bring together a coalition of what amounts to hate groups, groups of special snowflakes that believe they are the #1 victims of whatever the crime is, who believe they are owed everything ahead of everyone else?
When you divide everyone into assigned victimization organizations, hard to imagine they won't play victim. Cater to groups that use violence, intimidation, and criminality, and you will get more of that.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (2I2BK)
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Yeah, if any Republican loses in 2016 it won't be because he or she is a worthless cocksucker, it will be because of Trump.
Yeah, if any Republican loses in 2016 it won't be because he or she is a worthless cocksucker, it will be because of Trump.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (GdxOI)
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I love my dead gay son!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (u0s1P)
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Way to deflect his Ashley Madison membership.
I love my dead gay son!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (u0s1P)
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Way to deflect his Ashley Madison membership.
Posted by: iforgot at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (pC96u)
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167 Tinfoil Hat prediction:
Obama will have to stay on as president if Trump wins due to all the rioting. Then the election will be decided by Robert's supreme court using some strange legal loophole. The Supes will decide the Hillary won due to some technicality. She will be sworn in some time in the next several years, but Obama will stay on as an advisor.
Posted by: Max Power at May 17, 2016 03:54 PM (q177U)
You forgot "Then the shooting starts." at the end there.
Obama will have to stay on as president if Trump wins due to all the rioting. Then the election will be decided by Robert's supreme court using some strange legal loophole. The Supes will decide the Hillary won due to some technicality. She will be sworn in some time in the next several years, but Obama will stay on as an advisor.
Posted by: Max Power at May 17, 2016 03:54 PM (q177U)
You forgot "Then the shooting starts." at the end there.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (4ErVI)
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Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (vBeA5)
Appreciate the response.
Do you think the other candidates actual campaign runnage is also a little suspect ?
Appreciate the response.
Do you think the other candidates actual campaign runnage is also a little suspect ?
Posted by: dDan at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (hwYmz)
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"And don't think that the media won't use them to crucify Trump."
I am frightened by what the media will do to Donald Trump.
Really.
Frightened.
As opposed to what they would do to any candidate. Romney the Boy Scout ended up cutting a gay kids hair causing him to commit suicide several decades later, fired a man and then gave his wife cancer before going to take a ride on his car elevator.
If you are a qualified American citizen please call Bill Kristol at 202 Help-US! and say yes, you'll run third party against Trump! The Monster.
I am frightened by what the media will do to Donald Trump.
Really.
Frightened.
As opposed to what they would do to any candidate. Romney the Boy Scout ended up cutting a gay kids hair causing him to commit suicide several decades later, fired a man and then gave his wife cancer before going to take a ride on his car elevator.
If you are a qualified American citizen please call Bill Kristol at 202 Help-US! and say yes, you'll run third party against Trump! The Monster.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet sponsors the fifteen part series: #NeverTrump: Holding Out for a Hero at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (hLRSq)
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DOES NO ONE CARE THAT TRUMP WILL PUT US ALL IN THE CAMPS!!!
Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (YFFpo)
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maybe she should pick a Tranny.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:55 PM (HgMAr)
Hillary and the media have already been dark whispering her lesbian tendencies.
Bernie is pushing her SO far left, she'll really have to come out as tran. There's nothing she won't do.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 03:55 PM (HgMAr)
Hillary and the media have already been dark whispering her lesbian tendencies.
Bernie is pushing her SO far left, she'll really have to come out as tran. There's nothing she won't do.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (Nwg0u)
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Err, that may have been Nevada he lost by six. Ooops.
But really, at this point, what difference....
Err, that may have been Nevada he lost by six. Ooops.
But really, at this point, what difference....
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (kKHcp)
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179 DOES NO ONE CARE THAT TRUMP WILL PUT US ALL IN THE CAMPS!!!
Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (YFFpo)
At least he won't brainwash your kid into becoming a lesbian. He'll let you finish what you started.
Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (YFFpo)
At least he won't brainwash your kid into becoming a lesbian. He'll let you finish what you started.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (0mRoj)
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That, and the lack of ground game will destroy the down-ticket, especially in those states where the Trump supporters gained control,
Down ballot is the job of the RNC and has little to do with Trump.
That, and the lack of ground game will destroy the down-ticket, especially in those states where the Trump supporters gained control,
Down ballot is the job of the RNC and has little to do with Trump.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (lKyWE)
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Here's the link--going to break it so the thread doesn't blow:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
United_States_presidential_election_in_Arizona,_2012
(She's wrong.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
United_States_presidential_election_in_Arizona,_2012
(She's wrong.)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
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Clinton is the incumbent for all intents and purposes. This is good. We need a margin of 5%+ in the swing states to account for fraud as the Left is going to pull all stops to keep what they got and the GOPe will likely be joining them sub rosa
Posted by: oddnot says ~sigh~ at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (g1MTt)
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This is great news. I guess my gay husband has a chance at 4 more years when we get that liar Hillary indicted.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (dGonl)
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182 159
Err, that may have been Nevada he lost by six. Ooops.
But really, at this point, what difference....
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (kKHcp)
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Ha! Gotcha.
Err, that may have been Nevada he lost by six. Ooops.
But really, at this point, what difference....
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (kKHcp)
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Ha! Gotcha.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
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Good point that the libs haven't started a unification process yet. However, Trump is not a great galvanizing figure for them. They will try to paint him that way, but he's not a typical repub. He's a populist, just like them.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (kfoLf)
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we got the Trump Biden debate with someone being called a lying motherfucker, someone taking a swing and hair plugs all over the stage.
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I love it.
we got the Trump Biden debate with someone being called a lying motherfucker, someone taking a swing and hair plugs all over the stage.
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I love it.
Posted by: iforgot at May 17, 2016 03:59 PM (pC96u)
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Keep fantasizing folks. Keeps me warm at night.
Posted by: Democrat Voter Fraud Machine, well-oiled and humming nicely at May 17, 2016 03:59 PM (Wckf4)
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161 158
The Triggered Party versus the Trigger* Party.
*safety on
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (qCMvj)
I prefer "weapons free."
Posted by: Insomniac at May 17, 2016 03:52 PM (0mRoj)
http://tinyurl.com/p7pr22g
The Triggered Party versus the Trigger* Party.
*safety on
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (qCMvj)
I prefer "weapons free."
Posted by: Insomniac at May 17, 2016 03:52 PM (0mRoj)
http://tinyurl.com/p7pr22g
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at May 17, 2016 04:00 PM (mEZce)
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188 182 159
Err, that may have been Nevada he lost by six. Ooops.
But really, at this point, what difference....
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (kKHcp)
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Ha! Gotcha.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
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Arizona has 11..... 11 whopping electoral votes.
You guys are making my ass sore.
Err, that may have been Nevada he lost by six. Ooops.
But really, at this point, what difference....
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 03:57 PM (kKHcp)
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Ha! Gotcha.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
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Arizona has 11..... 11 whopping electoral votes.
You guys are making my ass sore.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (8XRCm)
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>>Down ballot is the job of the RNC and has little to do with Trump.
Well that's something else that Trump has changed apparently.
It has always been important who the presidential candidate is and how long the coattails. But with Trump everything is new.
Well that's something else that Trump has changed apparently.
It has always been important who the presidential candidate is and how long the coattails. But with Trump everything is new.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (/tuJf)
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(She's wrong.)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
No, I was. I confused NV with AZ
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
No, I was. I confused NV with AZ
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (kKHcp)
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I forgot to add...
Look at what Trump went through in the primary. It is was like one of those stupid fake c. 1980-90s wrestling all in throw downs with 20 wrestlers in the ring. It was a ugly rumble.
Hillary on the other hand had to face Bernie and for a short time a drunken Irish pub singer from Baltimore and still cannot put it away.
Polls like the ones we are seeing are a positive for Trump. It means his way of fighting ugly works because it drags the opponent down with you. Then it becomes a battle over who has the biggest group of loyal supporters willing to vote for you. This stupid idea that people vote in mass for someone just because they dislike the other candidate has never come true in my lifetime (granted I was born in the 1970s). In the end people are motivated to vote by people they want, not out of dislike for the other guy or gal.
Look at what Trump went through in the primary. It is was like one of those stupid fake c. 1980-90s wrestling all in throw downs with 20 wrestlers in the ring. It was a ugly rumble.
Hillary on the other hand had to face Bernie and for a short time a drunken Irish pub singer from Baltimore and still cannot put it away.
Polls like the ones we are seeing are a positive for Trump. It means his way of fighting ugly works because it drags the opponent down with you. Then it becomes a battle over who has the biggest group of loyal supporters willing to vote for you. This stupid idea that people vote in mass for someone just because they dislike the other candidate has never come true in my lifetime (granted I was born in the 1970s). In the end people are motivated to vote by people they want, not out of dislike for the other guy or gal.
Posted by: William Eaton at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (KhJh8)
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"we got the Trump Biden debate with someone being called a lying motherfucker, someone taking a swing and hair plugs all over the stage. "
Why not.....?
Why not.....?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (LA7Cm)
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"43
If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
I'd pick someone like G Gordon Liddy. Someone that terrifies the
press and has absolutely no pity or concern for what others think or
will say. Someone with contempt for the media.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)"
Liddy is 85 years but still feisty. I would like to see him at a press conference deal with some snotty White House Correspondent by pulling out a sock full of nickles and beating him to a bloody pulp, all the while yelling, "I'm not scared to go back to prison you little shit!"
When hearing of this, Trump laughs and issues a pardon.
If Trump wins, what are the odds he'll make his Greatest Fanboy, Hannity, press sec?
I'd pick someone like G Gordon Liddy. Someone that terrifies the
press and has absolutely no pity or concern for what others think or
will say. Someone with contempt for the media.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)"
Liddy is 85 years but still feisty. I would like to see him at a press conference deal with some snotty White House Correspondent by pulling out a sock full of nickles and beating him to a bloody pulp, all the while yelling, "I'm not scared to go back to prison you little shit!"
When hearing of this, Trump laughs and issues a pardon.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (QHgTq)
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Who wants Bundt cake with lemon frosting?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (4ErVI)
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OT: Maryland State Board of Elections decertified the results of the Baltimore primary election.
http://bit.ly/20Mu1ll
http://bit.ly/20Mu1ll
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (vBeA5)
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I am frightened by what the media will do to Donald Trump.
Really.
Frightened.
couldn't be any worse then Media-Raping Palin 24/7
Trump can handle it (I think). He's probably sitting on some nasty research - there's so much. The lib media keep saying Hillary is already "vetted" which is hysterical. They have sat on so much negative publicity on her over the years. Trump can bring up old news and bring it to the ears of so many Democrats who wouldn't listen to a conservative candidate. Many Dems who only live in the liberal world of news know nothing about the Clintons. Trump is one big bullhorn, everyone is listening.
He already took a shot at Fauxcahontas. It would be comedy gold if they put Biden in. The material there for Trump would make him comedian of the world.
Really.
Frightened.
couldn't be any worse then Media-Raping Palin 24/7
Trump can handle it (I think). He's probably sitting on some nasty research - there's so much. The lib media keep saying Hillary is already "vetted" which is hysterical. They have sat on so much negative publicity on her over the years. Trump can bring up old news and bring it to the ears of so many Democrats who wouldn't listen to a conservative candidate. Many Dems who only live in the liberal world of news know nothing about the Clintons. Trump is one big bullhorn, everyone is listening.
He already took a shot at Fauxcahontas. It would be comedy gold if they put Biden in. The material there for Trump would make him comedian of the world.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 04:02 PM (qCMvj)
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He already flip flopped on that and hired a pollster. It was in the news yesterday. Cannot remember the guy's name.
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That's a flip flop? That's him going from thinking he doesn't need a pollster to thinking he does. Probably has tO do with his bringing in experienced campaign staff.
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That's a flip flop? That's him going from thinking he doesn't need a pollster to thinking he does. Probably has tO do with his bringing in experienced campaign staff.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 04:02 PM (kTF2Z)
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surprised that 18% undecided. It's not like these are new kids on the block.
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at May 17, 2016 04:02 PM (AfNGb)
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The internals of the Arizona poll show Trump losing over 20% of Republicans.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:03 PM (mcm0N)
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Oops, there goes Bowe Bergdahl's pardon.
Bergdahl Court Martial for Desertion postponed until next year
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/05/17/army-bowe-bergdahl-trial-february/84485862/
Oops, there goes Bowe Bergdahl's pardon.
Bergdahl Court Martial for Desertion postponed until next year
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/05/17/army-bowe-bergdahl-trial-february/84485862/
Posted by: iforgot at May 17, 2016 04:03 PM (pC96u)
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As opposed to what they would do to any candidate.
Romney the Boy Scout ended up cutting a gay kids hair causing him to
commit suicide several decades later, fired a man and then gave his wife
cancer before going to take a ride on his car elevator.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet sponsors the fifteen part series:
#NeverTrump: Holding Out for a Hero at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (hLRSq)
Exactly. If they can demonize Mitt Romney - probably the most decent, upright man ever to run for the office - they can demonize anybody.
Romney the Boy Scout ended up cutting a gay kids hair causing him to
commit suicide several decades later, fired a man and then gave his wife
cancer before going to take a ride on his car elevator.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Outrage Outlet sponsors the fifteen part series:
#NeverTrump: Holding Out for a Hero at May 17, 2016 03:56 PM (hLRSq)
Exactly. If they can demonize Mitt Romney - probably the most decent, upright man ever to run for the office - they can demonize anybody.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:03 PM (oKE6c)
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I'll take Trump Camp over Fun Camp any day. At least there will be gambling, hookers and blow, right?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 04:03 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (mEZce)
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GOP's got this in the bag. This time they'll be running ORCA Vista.
It's like Skynet and HAL made a silicon baby.
It's like Skynet and HAL made a silicon baby.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (hqZPQ)
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I'll take Trump Camp over Fun Camp any day. At least there will be gambling, hookers and blow, right?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 04:03 PM (HgMAr)
And that's just at the republican convention.
I'll take Trump Camp over Fun Camp any day. At least there will be gambling, hookers and blow, right?
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 04:03 PM (HgMAr)
And that's just at the republican convention.
Posted by: IC at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (a0IVu)
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>Oops, there goes Bowe Bergdahl's pardon.
Please please please please let him get what he deserves.
Obama can't pardon him on the way out the door, can he?
Please please please please let him get what he deserves.
Obama can't pardon him on the way out the door, can he?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (NOIQH)
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This is great news. I guess my gay husband has a chance at 4 more years when we get that liar Hillary indicted.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (dGonl)"
So what are you saying? Is Barack Obama going to run as Hillary's Vice President?
This is great news. I guess my gay husband has a chance at 4 more years when we get that liar Hillary indicted.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at May 17, 2016 03:58 PM (dGonl)"
So what are you saying? Is Barack Obama going to run as Hillary's Vice President?
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (QHgTq)
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The internals of the Arizona poll show Trump losing over 20% of Republicans.
where is this ? sounds a bit...exaggerated
where is this ? sounds a bit...exaggerated
Posted by: runner at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (c6/9Q)
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Bergdahl Court Martial for Desertion postponed until next year
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How cornvenient for President Cornhole.
Bergdahl Court Martial for Desertion postponed until next year
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How cornvenient for President Cornhole.
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (HgMAr)
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160 Has Trump ever used the term "cuck"? Has he ever associated himself with the term?
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (R+30W)
His Alt-right fanatical supporters sure do.
And don't think that the media won't use them to crucify Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
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Candidates have all kinds of supporters. When Ronald Reagan ran for governor of California, the press tried keep trying to get him to renounce the John Birch Society. Reagan's answer was, "I am not endorsing them. They are endorsing me."
Was Cruz responsible for every comment made by his supporters? Just limit it to the comments made here at the HQ.
That would be idiotic. Internet commenters say all kinds of things. Nobody with any sense tries to hold a public figure responsible for what people say in the comments section of some blog.
Derp, indeed.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 03:42 PM (R+30W)
His Alt-right fanatical supporters sure do.
And don't think that the media won't use them to crucify Trump.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
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Candidates have all kinds of supporters. When Ronald Reagan ran for governor of California, the press tried keep trying to get him to renounce the John Birch Society. Reagan's answer was, "I am not endorsing them. They are endorsing me."
Was Cruz responsible for every comment made by his supporters? Just limit it to the comments made here at the HQ.
That would be idiotic. Internet commenters say all kinds of things. Nobody with any sense tries to hold a public figure responsible for what people say in the comments section of some blog.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (R+30W)
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Obama can't pardon him on the way out the door, can he?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (NOIQH)
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Actually.... yes he can.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (NOIQH)
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Actually.... yes he can.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (8XRCm)
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>>I am frightened by what the media will do to Donald Trump.
They don't have to do much. He has record poor approval ratings with women. There is no way he can win unless that improves.
The msm doesn't have to hurt Trump. They just need to keep him right where he is.
They don't have to do much. He has record poor approval ratings with women. There is no way he can win unless that improves.
The msm doesn't have to hurt Trump. They just need to keep him right where he is.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (/tuJf)
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I am frightened by what the media will do to Donald Trump.
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I am frightened by what Donald Trump will do to the media.
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I am frightened by what Donald Trump will do to the media.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (Nwg0u)
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Obama can't pardon him on the way out the door, can he?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (NOIQH)
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I've heard tell that a prez can pre-emptively pardon, but in a court martial? Don't know about that.
Obama can't pardon him on the way out the door, can he?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (NOIQH)
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I've heard tell that a prez can pre-emptively pardon, but in a court martial? Don't know about that.
Posted by: iforgot at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (pC96u)
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Since when do court martials take so long? I always thought, and I could be wrong, that court martials went quickly.
Since when do court martials take so long? I always thought, and I could be wrong, that court martials went quickly.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (GdxOI)
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*raises hand* I would like bundt cake with lemon frosting please.
Oh Empress? Does Bannion plan to have another meetup this year?
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (ByLlW)
I'm not sure what the plans are for the meetup this year, though I do think poor Bannion deserves to be the attendee, not the planner.
I say we just pick a random Saturday night, pick some poor unsuspecting bar and then just all show up but then again I'm lazy.
Oh Empress? Does Bannion plan to have another meetup this year?
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 17, 2016 03:50 PM (ByLlW)
I'm not sure what the plans are for the meetup this year, though I do think poor Bannion deserves to be the attendee, not the planner.
I say we just pick a random Saturday night, pick some poor unsuspecting bar and then just all show up but then again I'm lazy.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (mf5HN)
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Obama can't pardon him on the way out the door, can he?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (NOIQH)
Yep. And probably will.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 17, 2016 04:04 PM (NOIQH)
Yep. And probably will.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (wB8Tg)
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I am frightened by what the media will do to Donald Trump.
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I am frightened by what Donald Trump will do to the media.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (Nwg0u)
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Bunch a chickens round here.....
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I am frightened by what Donald Trump will do to the media.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (Nwg0u)
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Bunch a chickens round here.....
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (8XRCm)
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However, Trump is not a great galvanizing figure for them. They will try to paint him that way, but he's not a typical repub. He's a populist, just like them.
I saw an interview with a young black Sanders supporter who stated that many like him feel no loyalty towards Clinton because it was her husbands tough anti-crime bill that put their parents in jail.
However, Trump is not a great galvanizing figure for them. They will try to paint him that way, but he's not a typical repub. He's a populist, just like them.
I saw an interview with a young black Sanders supporter who stated that many like him feel no loyalty towards Clinton because it was her husbands tough anti-crime bill that put their parents in jail.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (lKyWE)
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Everything is delayed these days. Put off for another day. Congress doesn't even pass budgets anymore.
Everything is delayed these days. Put off for another day. Congress doesn't even pass budgets anymore.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (GdxOI)
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Arizona has 11..... 11 whopping electoral votes.
You guys are making my ass sore.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (8XRCm)
********.
Do Georgia now. Then what state does he replace the electoral votes of Arizona and Georgia with?
Does he not even spend money there? Does he surrender Arizona and Georgia?
You guys are making my ass sore.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:01 PM (8XRCm)
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Do Georgia now. Then what state does he replace the electoral votes of Arizona and Georgia with?
Does he not even spend money there? Does he surrender Arizona and Georgia?
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (mcm0N)
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We have no leadership.
We have no leadership.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (GdxOI)
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Since when do court martials take so long? I always thought, and I could be wrong, that court martials went quickly.
Point of order, it's courts-martial.
And brother, they can go on forever, unless you can get the commanding officer to say "You're Goddamn right I did!"
Since when do court martials take so long? I always thought, and I could be wrong, that court martials went quickly.
Point of order, it's courts-martial.
And brother, they can go on forever, unless you can get the commanding officer to say "You're Goddamn right I did!"
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 17, 2016 04:08 PM (hqZPQ)
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"Since when do court martials take so long? I always thought, and I could be wrong, that court martials went quickly."
Maybe someone in the Army grew a pair and decided, no, they're going to get this MF'r and not give Barry the chance he'd love to pardon him?
Maybe.
Maybe someone in the Army grew a pair and decided, no, they're going to get this MF'r and not give Barry the chance he'd love to pardon him?
Maybe.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 17, 2016 04:08 PM (LA7Cm)
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Bergdahl Court Martial for Desertion postponed until next year
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Just yesterday I asked what happened to Bergdahl.... Now I know.... nothing.... Exactly what is the excuse for the postponement?
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Just yesterday I asked what happened to Bergdahl.... Now I know.... nothing.... Exactly what is the excuse for the postponement?
Posted by: donna at May 17, 2016 04:08 PM (O2RFr)
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Since when do court martials take so long? I always thought, and I could be wrong, that court martials went quickly.
The bastard needs to be in front of a firing squad. No blindfold, no cig.
The bastard needs to be in front of a firing squad. No blindfold, no cig.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:08 PM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (ODxAs)
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Lets face it folks. We don't even know what's going to happen a week from now, let alone months out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)
They don't get it, they don't get it, they don't get it.
I'm not saying I'm superior, back in 2012 I KNEW Mitt Romney was going to win. But that experience taught me the gift of self doubt.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 17, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)
They don't get it, they don't get it, they don't get it.
I'm not saying I'm superior, back in 2012 I KNEW Mitt Romney was going to win. But that experience taught me the gift of self doubt.
Posted by: Max Power at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (q177U)
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I saw an interview with a young black Sanders supporter who stated that many like him feel no loyalty towards Clinton because it was her husbands tough anti-crime bill that put their parents in jail.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (lKyWE)
*******
Oh good Trump can adopt Bernie's prisoner release program.
Btw--Bernie is not winning the black vote in the Dem primary. Clinton is.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (lKyWE)
*******
Oh good Trump can adopt Bernie's prisoner release program.
Btw--Bernie is not winning the black vote in the Dem primary. Clinton is.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (mcm0N)
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How dare you correct my syntax! I'm Mister fucking Magoo.
How dare you correct my syntax! I'm Mister fucking Magoo.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (GdxOI)
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"any GOP presidential aspirant needs to sit down with capsule histories of how the media will abruptly shift their attitudes to Republicans after the nomination has been secured."
Who wins the media war? This will affect turnout and swing the middle in the swing states, and decide the outcome.
Rs usually start at a disadvantage, but Trump has Mad Media Skilzz. I worry that MSM will try to ignore him and deny him attention, more than I worry about they're being biased. In the end, I don't think they can help themselves, and Trump will get his air time.
If you just look at the last week, we had a reveal that Bill gave his Energizer $2 million from the Foundation. MSM mostly ignored it, but it still got some attention. "Hillary, how does it feel to grift all that money for Chelsea's Legacy only to have Bill spend it on another blonde floozy."
Meanwhile, NYT does a hit on Trump that backfires. Bill is now fair game.
We're going to have five months of this. e.g. at the right time Trump will drop the audio of Hillary cackling over getting the rapist off. Video of the Benghazi parents saying they were lied to. Pedo Island. Stolen White House silverware. It'll go on and on.
Who wins the media war? This will affect turnout and swing the middle in the swing states, and decide the outcome.
Rs usually start at a disadvantage, but Trump has Mad Media Skilzz. I worry that MSM will try to ignore him and deny him attention, more than I worry about they're being biased. In the end, I don't think they can help themselves, and Trump will get his air time.
If you just look at the last week, we had a reveal that Bill gave his Energizer $2 million from the Foundation. MSM mostly ignored it, but it still got some attention. "Hillary, how does it feel to grift all that money for Chelsea's Legacy only to have Bill spend it on another blonde floozy."
Meanwhile, NYT does a hit on Trump that backfires. Bill is now fair game.
We're going to have five months of this. e.g. at the right time Trump will drop the audio of Hillary cackling over getting the rapist off. Video of the Benghazi parents saying they were lied to. Pedo Island. Stolen White House silverware. It'll go on and on.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (r1fLd)
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That, and the lack of ground game will destroy the down-ticket, especially in those states where the Trump supporters gained control, with little to know knowledge of how to run an actual campaign.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (vBeA5)
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How good could a ground game organized by people out-organized by other people with no ground game or political campaign knowledge actually be? Can't see how there could be any loss of competence.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (vBeA5)
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How good could a ground game organized by people out-organized by other people with no ground game or political campaign knowledge actually be? Can't see how there could be any loss of competence.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 17, 2016 04:10 PM (NUqwG)
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Bah, this is just something to jibber-jabber about until the next post comes up.
Way too much can happen between now and election day for anything to be meaningful.
But one thing is for sure. The entire country is going to be voting for their version of "lesser of two evils."
Way too much can happen between now and election day for anything to be meaningful.
But one thing is for sure. The entire country is going to be voting for their version of "lesser of two evils."
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 04:10 PM (kKHcp)
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>I say we just pick a random Saturday night, pick some poor unsuspecting bar and then just all show up but then again I'm lazy.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (mf5HN)<
Thanks for the 411. Haven't seen Bannion around lately. Does he still comment? I'm down for easy plans and random Saturday nights. Just give me a little notice so I can get my ass to the coast. Speaking of which, I'll be on the NC coast the first week of August.
Posted by: alexthechick -fagette at May 17, 2016 04:06 PM (mf5HN)<
Thanks for the 411. Haven't seen Bannion around lately. Does he still comment? I'm down for easy plans and random Saturday nights. Just give me a little notice so I can get my ass to the coast. Speaking of which, I'll be on the NC coast the first week of August.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 17, 2016 04:10 PM (ByLlW)
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Jeebus, we've had one severe storm after another this afternoon.
Had winds gusting to 60 mph, and something heavy hit the (new) roof.
Limbs are all over the driveway and the street, and I need to get to Publix to get a cake for husband's office manager's birthday tomorrow.
Too bad I don't have a Humvee.
Had winds gusting to 60 mph, and something heavy hit the (new) roof.
Limbs are all over the driveway and the street, and I need to get to Publix to get a cake for husband's office manager's birthday tomorrow.
Too bad I don't have a Humvee.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:10 PM (1ZOkK)
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From Drudge: Bernie says shots were fired into his NV campaign HQ.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy, can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (u0lmX)
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Do Georgia now. Then what state does he replace the electoral votes of Arizona and Georgia with?
Does he not even spend money there? Does he surrender Arizona and Georgia?
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (mcm0N)
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OH, FL, PA, NM, possibly MI and CO .... with decent runs at NY and maybe even VT if Bernie is curbed unceremoniously.
Does he not even spend money there? Does he surrender Arizona and Georgia?
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (mcm0N)
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OH, FL, PA, NM, possibly MI and CO .... with decent runs at NY and maybe even VT if Bernie is curbed unceremoniously.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (8XRCm)
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That would be idiotic. Internet commenters say all kinds of things. Nobody with any sense tries to hold a public figure responsible for what people say in the comments section of some blog.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (R+30W)
They will, especially as those bigots get louder and louder... and the their mask eventually slips.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (R+30W)
They will, especially as those bigots get louder and louder... and the their mask eventually slips.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (vBeA5)
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In all honesty, I don't believe that given Hillary's health, she can be a particularly effective campaigner. That won't change the black, hispanic, and asian unitary support for her, but it may affect her turnout.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (hqZPQ)
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That, and the lack of ground game will destroy the down-ticket, especially in those states where the Trump supporters gained control, with little to know knowledge of how to run an actual campaign.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (vBeA5)
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How good could a ground game organized by people out-organized by other people with no ground game or political campaign knowledge actually be? Can't see how there could be any loss of competence.
Posted by: RioBravo
Notice how the GOP is suddenly getting a pass on all this. Now it's all trump all the time. So if trump is a shitbird, and it's all him ad all of the senators running for reelection don't count, and the GOP is out of it, why give them anything?
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 03:53 PM (vBeA5)
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How good could a ground game organized by people out-organized by other people with no ground game or political campaign knowledge actually be? Can't see how there could be any loss of competence.
Posted by: RioBravo
Notice how the GOP is suddenly getting a pass on all this. Now it's all trump all the time. So if trump is a shitbird, and it's all him ad all of the senators running for reelection don't count, and the GOP is out of it, why give them anything?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (326rv)
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The bastard needs to be in front of a firing squad. No blindfold, no cig.
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or put the blindfold in his mouth and the cig up his butt
The bastard needs to be in front of a firing squad. No blindfold, no cig.
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or put the blindfold in his mouth and the cig up his butt
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (HgMAr)
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From Drudge: Bernie says shots were fired into his NV campaign HQ.
Has anyone seen Hairy Reed in the area?
From Drudge: Bernie says shots were fired into his NV campaign HQ.
Has anyone seen Hairy Reed in the area?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (1ZOkK)
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...I need to get to Publix to get a cake for husband's office manager's birthday tomorrow.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:10 PM (1ZOkK)
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Be safe spaced out there; cakes can be dangerous.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:10 PM (1ZOkK)
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Be safe spaced out there; cakes can be dangerous.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (NUqwG)
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Pshhh, who cares? Bitter clingers living in the hills marrying their sisters. We outnumber them in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh anyway.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (39g3+)
And even if they did outnumber us, we could still outvote them, if you know what I mean.
Pshhh, who cares? Bitter clingers living in the hills marrying their sisters. We outnumber them in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh anyway.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (39g3+)
And even if they did outnumber us, we could still outvote them, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (zoehZ)
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"couldn't be any worse then Media-Raping Palin 24/7
Trump can handle it (I think). He's probably sitting on some nasty
research - there's so much. The lib media keep saying Hillary is already
"vetted" which is hysterical. They have sat on so much negative
publicity on her over the years. Trump can bring up old news and bring
it to the ears of so many Democrats who wouldn't listen to a
conservative candidate. Many Dems who only live in the liberal world of
news know nothing about the Clintons. Trump is one big bullhorn,
everyone is listening.
He already took a shot at Fauxcahontas. It would be comedy gold if
they put Biden in. The material there for Trump would make him comedian
of the world.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 04:02 PM (qCMvj)"
What would be particularly satisfying would be if Trump also has dirt on the media personalities that he has been socializing for the last few decades. The "Gray Wall of Silence" protects newsies from the consequences of their bad decisions the same way that the "Blue Wall of Silence" protects police from being turned in by other cops.
Imaging the fun when some news personality with sordid secrets takes on Trump and has Trump do a public dirt dump on live TV with internet follow up so that even thought the gatekeepers try to spike the story, everybody winds up knowing.
Both the story and the attempt to cover it up also helps reduce the credibility of the media which is always going to help Republicans.
Trump can handle it (I think). He's probably sitting on some nasty
research - there's so much. The lib media keep saying Hillary is already
"vetted" which is hysterical. They have sat on so much negative
publicity on her over the years. Trump can bring up old news and bring
it to the ears of so many Democrats who wouldn't listen to a
conservative candidate. Many Dems who only live in the liberal world of
news know nothing about the Clintons. Trump is one big bullhorn,
everyone is listening.
He already took a shot at Fauxcahontas. It would be comedy gold if
they put Biden in. The material there for Trump would make him comedian
of the world.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 17, 2016 04:02 PM (qCMvj)"
What would be particularly satisfying would be if Trump also has dirt on the media personalities that he has been socializing for the last few decades. The "Gray Wall of Silence" protects newsies from the consequences of their bad decisions the same way that the "Blue Wall of Silence" protects police from being turned in by other cops.
Imaging the fun when some news personality with sordid secrets takes on Trump and has Trump do a public dirt dump on live TV with internet follow up so that even thought the gatekeepers try to spike the story, everybody winds up knowing.
Both the story and the attempt to cover it up also helps reduce the credibility of the media which is always going to help Republicans.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (QHgTq)
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Sorry, Mister Magoo, when you've looked at as many performance reports as I have, you catch these things.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (hqZPQ)
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Suck it, Dems and MSM: by demonizing gentlemanly candidates in the past, you created the need for a Trump. And now, you've got one.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (oKE6c)
Yes.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 03:34 PM (oKE6c)
Yes.
Posted by: ChampionCapua at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (q00GQ)
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Keep in mind that Trump is JUST GETTING WARMED UP.
It's amazing how so many people have ignored 2 CENTRAL FACTS. They're as obvious as can be, but they're blinded by their own biases:
1) Trump has Magical Powers (to put it simply).
Just think about it. How the hell did this guy beat 16 other guys, to get to this level, while Hillary is STILL trying to scrape off Crazy Bernie (THAT's Trump's doing also, BTW). Sometimes I think the REAL problem "True Conservatives" have with him is that they recognize this, and naturally conclude that Trump has simply made a deal with Satan!
2) Hillary REALLY, REALLY sucks!
Even Democrats don't trust her, and don't like her. Even after DECADES of "First Woman President" brainwashing. For God's sake, even Crazy Bernie - who was basically just the ONLY Dem who was crazy enough to take on the Clinton Machine - is giving her a run for her money, and might have even won if the Democratic Primary wasn't "fixed".
It's amazing how so many people have ignored 2 CENTRAL FACTS. They're as obvious as can be, but they're blinded by their own biases:
1) Trump has Magical Powers (to put it simply).
Just think about it. How the hell did this guy beat 16 other guys, to get to this level, while Hillary is STILL trying to scrape off Crazy Bernie (THAT's Trump's doing also, BTW). Sometimes I think the REAL problem "True Conservatives" have with him is that they recognize this, and naturally conclude that Trump has simply made a deal with Satan!
2) Hillary REALLY, REALLY sucks!
Even Democrats don't trust her, and don't like her. Even after DECADES of "First Woman President" brainwashing. For God's sake, even Crazy Bernie - who was basically just the ONLY Dem who was crazy enough to take on the Clinton Machine - is giving her a run for her money, and might have even won if the Democratic Primary wasn't "fixed".
Posted by: Optimizer at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (jPHi7)
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We're going to have five months of this. e.g. at the right time Trump will drop the audio of Hillary cackling over getting the rapist off. Video of the Benghazi parents saying they were lied to. Pedo Island. Stolen White House silverware. It'll go on and on.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (r1fLd)
Sure we will...
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (r1fLd)
Sure we will...
Posted by: The MSM at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (vBeA5)
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Be safe spaced out there; cakes can be dangerous.
Posted by: RioBravo at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (NUqwG)
I wonder if I ask for a Hate Cake what I'll get? "Happy Fucking Birthday...Bitch"
Posted by: RioBravo at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (NUqwG)
I wonder if I ask for a Hate Cake what I'll get? "Happy Fucking Birthday...Bitch"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (1ZOkK)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (MORNg)
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Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign.
Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (GdxOI)
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244 That would be idiotic. Internet commenters say all kinds of things. Nobody with any sense tries to hold a public figure responsible for what people say in the comments section of some blog.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (R+30W)
They will, especially as those bigots get louder and louder... and the their mask eventually slips.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (vBeA5)
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Do any of your prophecies come true?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 04:05 PM (R+30W)
They will, especially as those bigots get louder and louder... and the their mask eventually slips.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (vBeA5)
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Do any of your prophecies come true?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (R+30W)
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I saw an interview with a young black Sanders
supporter who stated that many like him feel no loyalty towards Clinton
because it was her husbands tough anti-crime bill that put their parents
in jail.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (lKyWE)
So this dumb shit does not realize that Congress passes legislation, not the President, who can at most veto it (at no small political cost), and in his ignorance holds the anti-crime bill against Clinton?
You have to laugh. It makes a bit for all the dumb shits who credit Clinton for presiding over a healthy economy, thanks to a Republican Congress reining in his spending.
supporter who stated that many like him feel no loyalty towards Clinton
because it was her husbands tough anti-crime bill that put their parents
in jail.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:07 PM (lKyWE)
So this dumb shit does not realize that Congress passes legislation, not the President, who can at most veto it (at no small political cost), and in his ignorance holds the anti-crime bill against Clinton?
You have to laugh. It makes a bit for all the dumb shits who credit Clinton for presiding over a healthy economy, thanks to a Republican Congress reining in his spending.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (oKE6c)
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From Drudge: Bernie says shots were fired into his NV campaign HQ.
...and someone threw a Fag Cake through the window!
...and someone threw a Fag Cake through the window!
Posted by: tu3031 at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (YFFpo)
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Pshhh, who cares? Bitter clingers living in the hills marrying their
sisters. We outnumber them in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh anyway.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (39g3+)
And even if they did outnumber us, we could still outvote them, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (zoehZ)"
Philadelphia will cast a billion Democrat votes if that is what it takes.
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Pshhh, who cares? Bitter clingers living in the hills marrying their
sisters. We outnumber them in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh anyway.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 03:35 PM (39g3+)
And even if they did outnumber us, we could still outvote them, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Big City Voters at May 17, 2016 04:12 PM (zoehZ)"
Philadelphia will cast a billion Democrat votes if that is what it takes.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (QHgTq)
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I'm not saying I'm superior, back in 2012 I KNEW Mitt Romney was going to win. But that experience taught me the gift of self doubt.
Posted by: Max Power at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (q177U)
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Well after battling a much better candidate than Hillary--with much higher favorables --Obama--Mitt Romney in May of 2012 had surged to a 6% lead in Florida in the Quinnipiac polling. This is the same Quinnipiac polling that the Trump supporters love --that shows Hillary ahead by 1%.
Hillary a candidate that has almost historically high unfavorables--but--Trump does beat her in that.
Posted by: Max Power at May 17, 2016 04:09 PM (q177U)
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Well after battling a much better candidate than Hillary--with much higher favorables --Obama--Mitt Romney in May of 2012 had surged to a 6% lead in Florida in the Quinnipiac polling. This is the same Quinnipiac polling that the Trump supporters love --that shows Hillary ahead by 1%.
Hillary a candidate that has almost historically high unfavorables--but--Trump does beat her in that.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (mcm0N)
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or put the blindfold in his mouth and the cig up his butt
Posted by: wth>>>
We tried that and he liked it.
Posted by: wth>>>
We tried that and he liked it.
Posted by: Taliban Jailer at May 17, 2016 04:15 PM (81UWZ)
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From Drudge: Bernie says shots were fired into his NV campaign HQ.
Has anyone seen Hairy Reed in the area?
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You mean Deadeye?
Has anyone seen Hairy Reed in the area?
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You mean Deadeye?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 17, 2016 04:15 PM (Nwg0u)
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I really don't see what Trump has to do with down ballot.Thats all local and heck they can run on keeping on tight rein on Trump if they have to.
I really don't see what Trump has to do with down ballot.Thats all local and heck they can run on keeping on tight rein on Trump if they have to.
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:15 PM (lKyWE)
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Truth be told, I hate making mistakes like that. Courts martial. Attorneys general. Octopusses. Got it. Thanks.
Truth be told, I hate making mistakes like that. Courts martial. Attorneys general. Octopusses. Got it. Thanks.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:15 PM (GdxOI)
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How good could a ground game organized by people out-organized by other people with no ground game or political campaign knowledge actually be? Can't see how there could be any loss of competence.
Posted by: RioBravo
There is no ground game. Just an intense, yet still narrow, fanbase who showed up.
That won't cut it in November.
Posted by: RioBravo
There is no ground game. Just an intense, yet still narrow, fanbase who showed up.
That won't cut it in November.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (vBeA5)
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OH, PA, VA, IA with likely voters and I'll give you a true picture of the race to 270 electoral votes.
*snicker*
OK, Trump is at 40% in those too.
Have at it.
*snicker*
OK, Trump is at 40% in those too.
Have at it.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (MORNg)
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Well after battling a much better candidate than Hillary--with much higher favorables --Obama--Mitt Romney in May of 2012 had surged to a 6% lead in Florida in the Quinnipiac polling. This is the same Quinnipiac polling that the Trump supporters love --that shows Hillary ahead by 1%.
Hillary a candidate that has almost historically high unfavorables--but--Trump does beat her in that.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
So let's run Romney through again. That asshole can pick katshit as VP and they can burn Confederate flags together.
Hillary a candidate that has almost historically high unfavorables--but--Trump does beat her in that.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
So let's run Romney through again. That asshole can pick katshit as VP and they can burn Confederate flags together.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (326rv)
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"I wonder if I ask for a Hate Cake what I'll get? "Happy Fucking Birthday...Bitch"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (1ZOkK)"
It might taste like Chik-Fil-A, in other words, delicious.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (1ZOkK)"
It might taste like Chik-Fil-A, in other words, delicious.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (QHgTq)
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There is no ground game. Just an intense, yet still narrow, fanbase who showed up.
That won't cut it in November.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (vBeA5)
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Ahhhhh.... a little more to the left please.....
That won't cut it in November.
Posted by: The Political Hat at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (vBeA5)
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Ahhhhh.... a little more to the left please.....
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (8XRCm)
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I am sure it's been said, have not read comments.
National poll means NOTHING. It the electoral college stupid, not the popular vote.
The eight swing states are all that matter.
National poll means NOTHING. It the electoral college stupid, not the popular vote.
The eight swing states are all that matter.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 17, 2016 04:17 PM (jJRIy)
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look to the manafort
Posted by: concrete girl at May 17, 2016 04:17 PM (ceWrl)
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Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (GdxOI)
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He should have accounted for that--if he is as all wise as you seem to believe.
Instead he went foward with his Thug-plomacy.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (GdxOI)
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He should have accounted for that--if he is as all wise as you seem to believe.
Instead he went foward with his Thug-plomacy.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:17 PM (mcm0N)
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I could use a Safe Space kitteh right now. I'd settle for a gender confused kitteh, however.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:17 PM (1ZOkK)
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I don't drink and neither does Trump. State the fact that Hillary is addicted to alcohol. Why have two substance abusing presidents in a row?
Posted by: Mitt at May 17, 2016 04:17 PM (FXW24)
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I have more hope for the undercard than Trump.
Posted by: Skip at May 17, 2016 04:18 PM (3wHFl)
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I'm no fan of Trump but I have absolutely no idea what is gonna happen in the general... I have a fear, but no real proof... A lot can happen before Nov.
Posted by: donna at May 17, 2016 04:18 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 17, 2016 04:18 PM (LA7Cm)
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>>So let's run Romney through again. That asshole can pick katshit as VP and they can burn Confederate flags together.
You do realize Trump supported Haley's position of putting the Confederate Flag in a museum, right?
You do realize Trump supported Haley's position of putting the Confederate Flag in a museum, right?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 17, 2016 04:19 PM (/tuJf)
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Yes, Julius Caesar should've expected his bestest friend to stab him in the back, too.
Caeser sucked -- shoulda saw it coming!
Yes, Julius Caesar should've expected his bestest friend to stab him in the back, too.
Caeser sucked -- shoulda saw it coming!
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:19 PM (GdxOI)
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*flings bundt cake with lemon frosting through the usb port*
It's good. The frosting is homemade.
RE: Romney I remember seeing something online about two weeks before the election where I just knew he was going to lose. Sure wish I'd written it down, but whatever it was it just went on like a lightbulb in my head that he was toast. And he was.
It's good. The frosting is homemade.
RE: Romney I remember seeing something online about two weeks before the election where I just knew he was going to lose. Sure wish I'd written it down, but whatever it was it just went on like a lightbulb in my head that he was toast. And he was.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 17, 2016 04:19 PM (4ErVI)
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Wait 'til they get a load of me.
Posted by: Killery aka: The Choker at May 17, 2016 04:20 PM (aXKCe)
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I wonder if I ask for a Hate Cake what I'll get? "Happy Fucking Birthday...Bitch"
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Age Wins, Hag
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Age Wins, Hag
Posted by: x at May 17, 2016 04:20 PM (nFwvY)
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So let's run Romney through again. That asshole can pick katshit as VP and they can burn Confederate flags together.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (326rv)
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Yes--there are some Trump supporters at reddit who hate when people mention that the Republican party is the party of--Lincoln.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:16 PM (326rv)
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Yes--there are some Trump supporters at reddit who hate when people mention that the Republican party is the party of--Lincoln.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:20 PM (mcm0N)
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Trump just posed the question of why Hillary is even running if she has to have Bill revitalize the economy for her. And then he asked if Bill was bringing the "Energizer" to DC with him.
I don't think any other candidate would even dare. Not this early and not without test marketing it. And if they did dare...it would come off as weak and contrived.
Not sure I am going to love his policies but I don't hate his politics.
I don't think any other candidate would even dare. Not this early and not without test marketing it. And if they did dare...it would come off as weak and contrived.
Not sure I am going to love his policies but I don't hate his politics.
Posted by: ajmojo at May 17, 2016 04:20 PM (1H9ox)
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The eight swing states are all that matter.
Posted by: Nip Sip
I'd say that there's more to it.
1. I doubt that any present blue state is going to shift due to Trump. I'd like to be wrong, but I doubt it.
2. He can't afford to lose ANY present red state. And according to the intelligentsia here, he and only he seems to be involved in the affair.
3. I agree that the swing states matter, and matter a great deal. One of which is Ohio. And the katshit connection. Which the GOP encouraged.
The eight swing states are all that matter.
Posted by: Nip Sip
I'd say that there's more to it.
1. I doubt that any present blue state is going to shift due to Trump. I'd like to be wrong, but I doubt it.
2. He can't afford to lose ANY present red state. And according to the intelligentsia here, he and only he seems to be involved in the affair.
3. I agree that the swing states matter, and matter a great deal. One of which is Ohio. And the katshit connection. Which the GOP encouraged.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:20 PM (326rv)
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RE: Romney I remember seeing something online about two weeks before the election where I just knew he was going to lose. Sure wish I'd written it down, but whatever it was it just went on like a lightbulb in my head that he was toast. And he was.
And it was over quickly.... Drank a whole bottle of champagne to drown My sorrows and was sick as a dog the next day...
And it was over quickly.... Drank a whole bottle of champagne to drown My sorrows and was sick as a dog the next day...
Posted by: donna at May 17, 2016 04:21 PM (O2RFr)
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I just had a wild thought. Could Hillary have Biden run as her VP?
Just typing that gave me a headache.
Just typing that gave me a headache.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 17, 2016 04:21 PM (1ZOkK)
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The eight swing states are all that matter.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 17, 2016 04:17 PM (jJRIy)
Damn shame the entire election will be decided by a few congressional districts in a few states.
Good thing there's no election fraud to speak of.
Damn shame all our biggest policies get decided by nine unelected people in robes (four of whom vote as a bloc), but that's another issue.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 17, 2016 04:17 PM (jJRIy)
Damn shame the entire election will be decided by a few congressional districts in a few states.
Good thing there's no election fraud to speak of.
Damn shame all our biggest policies get decided by nine unelected people in robes (four of whom vote as a bloc), but that's another issue.
Posted by: OneEyedJack, missing a good opportunity at May 17, 2016 04:21 PM (kKHcp)
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What's the plural for Cookie Puss ice cream cakes?
"I went to the Carvel store and bought four _____ _____."
What's the plural for Cookie Puss ice cream cakes?
"I went to the Carvel store and bought four _____ _____."
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (GdxOI)
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I wonder if I ask for a Hate Cake what I'll get? "
I still would like a piece, because last week I didn't receive a piece of cake
I still would like a piece, because last week I didn't receive a piece of cake
Posted by: Milton Waddams at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (hqZPQ)
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3. I agree that the swing states matter, and matter a great deal. One of which is Ohio. And the katshit connection. Which the GOP encouraged.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:20 PM (326rv)
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Trump picks up Ohio, Florida AND PA.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:20 PM (326rv)
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Trump picks up Ohio, Florida AND PA.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (8XRCm)
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Hate to tell you this but there's a very real chance Romney would be handing Hillary her ASS in the polling right now.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: wth at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (HgMAr)
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Isn't it "octopi?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
It might be if it were latin. Unforts, it's Greek. sooooooooo...
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
It might be if it were latin. Unforts, it's Greek. sooooooooo...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (p2X2f)
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I don't think any other candidate would even dare. Not this early and not without test marketing it. And if they did dare...it would come off as weak and contrived.
Not sure I am going to love his policies but I don't hate his politics.
But, but I saw Karl Rove on TV last night and He said Trump shouldn't go "there." No Billy Jeff stuff or Hillary! as enabler..... Of course I would do the opposite of what He suggests...
Not sure I am going to love his policies but I don't hate his politics.
But, but I saw Karl Rove on TV last night and He said Trump shouldn't go "there." No Billy Jeff stuff or Hillary! as enabler..... Of course I would do the opposite of what He suggests...
Posted by: donna at May 17, 2016 04:23 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 17, 2016 04:23 PM (LA7Cm)
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Ok, I'll do my prediction.
Trump gets 345 EVs.
Clinton get 190 EVs.
Then I'll set the building on fire.
Trump gets 345 EVs.
Clinton get 190 EVs.
Then I'll set the building on fire.
Posted by: Milton Waddams at May 17, 2016 04:23 PM (hqZPQ)
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From Drudge: Bernie says shots were fired into his NV campaign HQ.
But no chalkenings yet, so it's all good.
But no chalkenings yet, so it's all good.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:24 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:24 PM (GdxOI)
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Yes--there are some Trump supporters at reddit who hate when people mention that the Republican party is the party of--Lincoln.
Lincoln was considered a moderate in 1860
Yes--there are some Trump supporters at reddit who hate when people mention that the Republican party is the party of--Lincoln.
Lincoln was considered a moderate in 1860
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:24 PM (lKyWE)
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Cookie Pusses? Don't sound right.
Cookie Pusses? Don't sound right.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:24 PM (GdxOI)
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National polls are not of much worth except to perhaps indicate trends.. So, this is still good, but not very indicative of who will win in November.
Florida is a must win for Trump or he he loses.. it's a really screwed up way to elect a president, but the electoral map is what it is.. A Republican can win two-thirds of the states and still lose.
Florida is a must win for Trump or he he loses.. it's a really screwed up way to elect a president, but the electoral map is what it is.. A Republican can win two-thirds of the states and still lose.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM (so+oy)
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"Dems are using Trump to ramp up their voter registration faster than in '08 or '12"
Just imagine you are an immigrant.
You'd be very, very motivated to register and vote this year.
Just imagine you are an immigrant.
You'd be very, very motivated to register and vote this year.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM (UBBWX)
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Trump picks up Ohio, Florida AND PA.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (8XRCm)
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Hillary sends Obama into Pittsburgh and Philadelphia--then a side trip into Cleveland. Sends Biden into main Ohio.
Florida--she sends Bill.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:22 PM (8XRCm)
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Hillary sends Obama into Pittsburgh and Philadelphia--then a side trip into Cleveland. Sends Biden into main Ohio.
Florida--she sends Bill.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM (mcm0N)
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RE: Romney I remember seeing something online about two weeks before the election where I just knew he was going to lose. Sure wish I'd written it down, but whatever it was it just went on like a lightbulb in my head that he was toast. And he was.
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For me it was a couple of weeks before Election Day. At that point Romney was ahead and it looked like he'd win. He then started talking in conciliatory tones and about reaching across the aisle. People didn't want that. They wanted someone to undo what Barky had done.
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For me it was a couple of weeks before Election Day. At that point Romney was ahead and it looked like he'd win. He then started talking in conciliatory tones and about reaching across the aisle. People didn't want that. They wanted someone to undo what Barky had done.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 04:26 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:26 PM (GdxOI)
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Just imagine you are an immigrant.
You'd be very, very motivated to register and vote this year.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM (UBBWX)
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United We Dream !
You'd be very, very motivated to register and vote this year.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM (UBBWX)
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United We Dream !
Posted by: RioBravo at May 17, 2016 04:26 PM (NUqwG)
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Hate to tell you this but there's a very real chance Romney would be handing Hillary her ASS in the polling right now.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
hate to tell you this, but Romney had an excellent chance against an incumbent with unemployment at 7% (using the bullshit counting method), and he managed to lose.
Since then, he ran his mouth about confederate flags, endorsed katshit, and does anyone think he'll be any more coherent on obamacare or guys in the ladies room?
There's a very real chance he'd be what Al Gore was in 2004.
Posted by: Danube River Guide
hate to tell you this, but Romney had an excellent chance against an incumbent with unemployment at 7% (using the bullshit counting method), and he managed to lose.
Since then, he ran his mouth about confederate flags, endorsed katshit, and does anyone think he'll be any more coherent on obamacare or guys in the ladies room?
There's a very real chance he'd be what Al Gore was in 2004.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:26 PM (326rv)
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Hillary sends Obama into Pittsburgh and Philadelphia--then a side trip into Cleveland. Sends Biden into main Ohio.
Florida--she sends Bill.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM (mcm0N)
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Well..... fuck..... lets just quit now.
Florida--she sends Bill.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM (mcm0N)
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Well..... fuck..... lets just quit now.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:27 PM (8XRCm)
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OH, FL, PA, NM, possibly MI and CO .... with decent runs at NY and maybe even VT if Bernie is curbed unceremoniously.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (8XRCm)
I'd say the Chicken has been fcked too much cause he doesn't know chicken shit if he thinks Trump will win NY, VT or PA.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:11 PM (8XRCm)
I'd say the Chicken has been fcked too much cause he doesn't know chicken shit if he thinks Trump will win NY, VT or PA.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 17, 2016 04:27 PM (jJRIy)
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" Why is the plural of pie pies if the plural of Octopus is Octopi?"
No, I'm wrong. Never knew it was a bastardized Greek word.
No, I'm wrong. Never knew it was a bastardized Greek word.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 17, 2016 04:27 PM (LA7Cm)
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"She's got a glass jaw, a personality like a splintered toilet seat, and way more baggage than will ever fit into the overhead compartment. Her only chance in a debate would be if her opponent were too gentlemanly to bring up any of this, but that's not going to be a problem for Trump."
I hope so.
Of course Trump has a glass jaw, too.
He could well with 90 second answers.
Once Rubio gave Donald time to explain, Donald looked like an idiot.
Do you think Hillary hasn't viewed that tape?
Do you think the media lackey will save Donald?
Maybe Trump is brushing up, now. Maybe.
I hope so.
Of course Trump has a glass jaw, too.
He could well with 90 second answers.
Once Rubio gave Donald time to explain, Donald looked like an idiot.
Do you think Hillary hasn't viewed that tape?
Do you think the media lackey will save Donald?
Maybe Trump is brushing up, now. Maybe.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:27 PM (UBBWX)
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Romney would be handing Hillary her ASS in the polling right now.
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...in Utah !!!!
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...in Utah !!!!
Posted by: RioBravo at May 17, 2016 04:27 PM (NUqwG)
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258
Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (GdxOI)
Yep. We're all way more effective that that dope out in front of the scenes who keeps reloading and shooting at his own feet.
Sure, there was a core of the GOP that stood by Trump regardless of what he said or did. And now there is a cadre of the rest of the GOP who may have started drinking early enough to vote for him in November.
But he's not going to pull the additional voters he needs with his "out and proud a$$hole" persona. Hence 40%. I wish him well for the sake of Not Hillary but it sure feels like wishing.
Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign.
Posted by: Mister Magoo at May 17, 2016 04:14 PM (GdxOI)
Yep. We're all way more effective that that dope out in front of the scenes who keeps reloading and shooting at his own feet.
Sure, there was a core of the GOP that stood by Trump regardless of what he said or did. And now there is a cadre of the rest of the GOP who may have started drinking early enough to vote for him in November.
But he's not going to pull the additional voters he needs with his "out and proud a$$hole" persona. Hence 40%. I wish him well for the sake of Not Hillary but it sure feels like wishing.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 17, 2016 04:28 PM (M0ddJ)
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Hate to tell you this but there's a very real chance Romney would be handing Hillary her ASS in the polling right now.
So what? As soon as someone mentioned binders full of women he'd take his foot of the gas and tank it just like he did in 2012
Hate to tell you this but there's a very real chance Romney would be handing Hillary her ASS in the polling right now.
So what? As soon as someone mentioned binders full of women he'd take his foot of the gas and tank it just like he did in 2012
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:28 PM (lKyWE)
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@287 "Trump Asks If Bill Will Bring Energizer To DC"
Oh no he didn't!
I said above that I worry that MSM will try to ignore him and deny him attention, more than I worry about they're being biased.
I'm getting less worried. You see MSM needs raw red meat every day. Hillary can't even go on with Stephanopolous without risk. When she opens her mouth she says something stupid or gives Trump an opening to throat punch her. So she'll be in comparative hiding and overly reliant on surrogates. Bill is now worse than useless. Forget Chelsea. How many times can you interview Carville.
So it'll be wall to wall Trump.
Oh no he didn't!
I said above that I worry that MSM will try to ignore him and deny him attention, more than I worry about they're being biased.
I'm getting less worried. You see MSM needs raw red meat every day. Hillary can't even go on with Stephanopolous without risk. When she opens her mouth she says something stupid or gives Trump an opening to throat punch her. So she'll be in comparative hiding and overly reliant on surrogates. Bill is now worse than useless. Forget Chelsea. How many times can you interview Carville.
So it'll be wall to wall Trump.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 17, 2016 04:28 PM (r1fLd)
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For me it was a couple of weeks before Election Day. At that point Romney was ahead and it looked like he'd win. He then started talking in conciliatory tones and about reaching across the aisle. People didn't want that. They wanted someone to undo what Barky had done.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Agreed.
The GOP and its leaders totally fucked up illegal immigration and amnesty. Romney will suddenly be the second coming of Christ?
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Agreed.
The GOP and its leaders totally fucked up illegal immigration and amnesty. Romney will suddenly be the second coming of Christ?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:28 PM (326rv)
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295 Hate to tell you this but there's a very real chance Romney would be handing Hillary her ASS in the polling right now.
....
Really? Why do you say that? Is it because he was such a man of the people and natural campaigner? Or is it because he stood on such firm ground on healthcare and immigration? Maybe it is because he was a natural attack dog and would really highlight Hillary's negatives.
Wait, never mind. It is the hair, isn't it?
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Really? Why do you say that? Is it because he was such a man of the people and natural campaigner? Or is it because he stood on such firm ground on healthcare and immigration? Maybe it is because he was a natural attack dog and would really highlight Hillary's negatives.
Wait, never mind. It is the hair, isn't it?
Posted by: ajmojo at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (1H9ox)
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Sure we will...
Posted by: The MSM at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (vBeA5)
Look, Trump just called Warren Pocahontas. That forces the msm to revisit the story of Warren using her phoney Native American background to get an advantage.
The problem with past GOP candidates is that the media ignored things like Rev. Goddamn America and Benghazi - and so did the candidates! Because the GOP is above all that.
Trump isn't. That's a YUGE point in his favor as far as I'm concerned.
Sure we will...
Posted by: The MSM at May 17, 2016 04:13 PM (vBeA5)
Look, Trump just called Warren Pocahontas. That forces the msm to revisit the story of Warren using her phoney Native American background to get an advantage.
The problem with past GOP candidates is that the media ignored things like Rev. Goddamn America and Benghazi - and so did the candidates! Because the GOP is above all that.
Trump isn't. That's a YUGE point in his favor as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy, can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (u0lmX)
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I'd say the Chicken has been fcked too much cause he doesn't know chicken shit if he thinks Trump will win NY, VT or PA.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 17, 2016 04:27 PM (jJRIy)
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So.... you cede FL, OH, NM and MI????
Still a Trump win.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 17, 2016 04:27 PM (jJRIy)
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So.... you cede FL, OH, NM and MI????
Still a Trump win.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (8XRCm)
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Another question: Why is the plural of pie pies if the plural of Octopus is Octopi?
Posted by: Mister Magoo
Because ours is a cannibal language.
Posted by: Mister Magoo
Because ours is a cannibal language.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (p2X2f)
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Romney is a world better than either Trump or Clinton, but here we are.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 17, 2016 04:30 PM (2cS/G)
326
"Trump gets 345 EVs.
Clinton get 190 EVs.
Then I'll set the building on fire.
Posted by: Milton Waddams at May 17, 2016 04:23 PM (hqZPQ)"
I was messing around with one of the electoral map sites the other day, I know what the polling looks like now, but if Trump is able to do what I think he can, I think a scenario like that is not too difficult to imagine.
Clinton get 190 EVs.
Then I'll set the building on fire.
Posted by: Milton Waddams at May 17, 2016 04:23 PM (hqZPQ)"
I was messing around with one of the electoral map sites the other day, I know what the polling looks like now, but if Trump is able to do what I think he can, I think a scenario like that is not too difficult to imagine.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 04:30 PM (n/ogz)
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>3 Trump isn't going up, he's peaking at 40%, Hillary >is coming down. I've been saying that I don't think >Trump can win the race but Hillary can lose it and >this is exactly what I mean.
Er. wasn't Trump supposed to peak at 35% during the nomination process?
Er. wasn't Trump supposed to peak at 35% during the nomination process?
Posted by: Natrium at May 17, 2016 04:31 PM (kEXLa)
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Trump gets 345 EVs.
Clinton get 190 EVs.
Then I'll set the building on fire.
Posted by: Milton Waddams at May 17, 2016 04:23 PM (hqZPQ)"
I was messing around with one of the electoral map sites the other day, I know what the polling looks like now, but if Trump is able to do what I think he can, I think a scenario like that is not too difficult to imagine.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand
We thought that Romney was going to do something close to this.
Clinton get 190 EVs.
Then I'll set the building on fire.
Posted by: Milton Waddams at May 17, 2016 04:23 PM (hqZPQ)"
I was messing around with one of the electoral map sites the other day, I know what the polling looks like now, but if Trump is able to do what I think he can, I think a scenario like that is not too difficult to imagine.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand
We thought that Romney was going to do something close to this.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:31 PM (326rv)
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"Oh no he didn't!
I said above that I worry that MSM will try to ignore him and deny him attention, more than I worry about they're being biased.
I'm getting less worried. You see MSM needs raw red meat every day. Hillary can't even go on with Stephanopolous without risk. When she opens her mouth she says something stupid or gives Trump an opening to throat punch her. So she'll be in comparative hiding and overly reliant on surrogates. Bill is now worse than useless. Forget Chelsea. How many times can you interview Carville.
So it'll be wall to wall Trump.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 17, 2016 04:28 PM (r1fLd)"
I really think it's going to be different this cycle, they just can't help themselves. I know what's happened to their golden boy candidates in the past once the nomination is locked up.
This is like Howard Stern, the haters tune in longer than the fans to see what he says next. Media will be by default in the tank for Trump, even if they think they aren't.
I said above that I worry that MSM will try to ignore him and deny him attention, more than I worry about they're being biased.
I'm getting less worried. You see MSM needs raw red meat every day. Hillary can't even go on with Stephanopolous without risk. When she opens her mouth she says something stupid or gives Trump an opening to throat punch her. So she'll be in comparative hiding and overly reliant on surrogates. Bill is now worse than useless. Forget Chelsea. How many times can you interview Carville.
So it'll be wall to wall Trump.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 17, 2016 04:28 PM (r1fLd)"
I really think it's going to be different this cycle, they just can't help themselves. I know what's happened to their golden boy candidates in the past once the nomination is locked up.
This is like Howard Stern, the haters tune in longer than the fans to see what he says next. Media will be by default in the tank for Trump, even if they think they aren't.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 04:32 PM (n/ogz)
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"Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign."
Please. No "stabbed in the back" theories.
Trump is the most popular guy who gets out the new voters. Its his job to win votes. Master persuader, right?
Besides Trump is more interested in other voters than conservatives. He himself says conservatives are not needed.
Please. No "stabbed in the back" theories.
Trump is the most popular guy who gets out the new voters. Its his job to win votes. Master persuader, right?
Besides Trump is more interested in other voters than conservatives. He himself says conservatives are not needed.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)
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"We thought that Romney was going to do something close to this.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:31 PM (326rv)"
Who thought that? I thought he might be able to squeek by, I think he would have been a competent POTUS, but who really imagined a wipeout scenario for Romney?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:31 PM (326rv)"
Who thought that? I thought he might be able to squeek by, I think he would have been a competent POTUS, but who really imagined a wipeout scenario for Romney?
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (n/ogz)
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Er. wasn't Trump supposed to peak at 35% during the nomination process?
Posted by: Natrium at May 17, 2016 04:31 PM (kEXLa)
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No. He gave himslef "wiggle room".
If come November, and We have "President Elect Donald Trump" its not because Trump won, its because Hillary lost.
Because.... intellect. Or something.
Posted by: Natrium at May 17, 2016 04:31 PM (kEXLa)
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No. He gave himslef "wiggle room".
If come November, and We have "President Elect Donald Trump" its not because Trump won, its because Hillary lost.
Because.... intellect. Or something.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:34 PM (8XRCm)
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Hate to tell you this but there's a very real chance Romney would be handing Hillary her ASS in the polling right now.
....
Really? Why do you say that? Is it because he was such a man of the people and natural campaigner? Or is it because he stood on such firm ground on healthcare and immigration? Maybe it is because he was a natural attack dog and would really highlight Hillary's negatives.
Wait, never mind. It is the hair, isn't it?
Posted by: ajmojo
I was there, on top. But he didn't have what it took to join me.
....
Really? Why do you say that? Is it because he was such a man of the people and natural campaigner? Or is it because he stood on such firm ground on healthcare and immigration? Maybe it is because he was a natural attack dog and would really highlight Hillary's negatives.
Wait, never mind. It is the hair, isn't it?
Posted by: ajmojo
I was there, on top. But he didn't have what it took to join me.
Posted by: Seamus the roof ridin' dog at May 17, 2016 04:34 PM (326rv)
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Look, Trump just called Warren Pocahontas. That
forces the msm to revisit the story of Warren using her phoney Native
American background to get an advantage.
The problem with past GOP candidates is that the media ignored
things like Rev. Goddamn America and Benghazi - and so did the
candidates! Because the GOP is above all that.
Trump isn't. That's a YUGE point in his favor as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy, can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (u0lmX)
I agree. I don't know about Trump as a President, but we definitely needed to get away from Marquis of Queensbury rules in election campaigns. We're in knife fights in dark alleys; throat punching, bicycle chains, broken beer bottles, knees in the balls, thumbs in the eyes are all definitely in order. Because we're going to experience them - as usual - and need to adopt the same tactics.
forces the msm to revisit the story of Warren using her phoney Native
American background to get an advantage.
The problem with past GOP candidates is that the media ignored
things like Rev. Goddamn America and Benghazi - and so did the
candidates! Because the GOP is above all that.
Trump isn't. That's a YUGE point in his favor as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Donna and V. (hey, buddy, can you spare an ampersand?) at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (u0lmX)
I agree. I don't know about Trump as a President, but we definitely needed to get away from Marquis of Queensbury rules in election campaigns. We're in knife fights in dark alleys; throat punching, bicycle chains, broken beer bottles, knees in the balls, thumbs in the eyes are all definitely in order. Because we're going to experience them - as usual - and need to adopt the same tactics.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:34 PM (oKE6c)
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270towin.com
Click states to change color
Give Trump: NV, CO. IA, WI, OH. NH, NC - 259
Give Hillary FL, VA and PA - 279 - she wins
3 eff'n states..
Now, maybe.. just maybe Trump can put PA into play.. but it ain't happened in decades with the big cities all voting Dem.
Click states to change color
Give Trump: NV, CO. IA, WI, OH. NH, NC - 259
Give Hillary FL, VA and PA - 279 - she wins
3 eff'n states..
Now, maybe.. just maybe Trump can put PA into play.. but it ain't happened in decades with the big cities all voting Dem.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM (so+oy)
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305---Florida is a must win for Trump or he loses..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM
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He loses.
(But you knew that.)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2016 04:25 PM
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He loses.
(But you knew that.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM (T/5A0)
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"Please. No "stabbed in the back" theories.
Trump is the most popular guy who gets out the new voters. Its his job to win votes. Master persuader, right?
Besides Trump is more interested in other voters than conservatives. He himself says conservatives are not needed.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)"
If the #nevertrump folks are able to just step out of the way and let things play out, then there should be no accusations of sabotage. Go nuts for down ticket races. The agitation for 3rd party, and the calls for a floor revolt at the convention, to undermine and disenfranchise voters is sabotage.
Trump is the most popular guy who gets out the new voters. Its his job to win votes. Master persuader, right?
Besides Trump is more interested in other voters than conservatives. He himself says conservatives are not needed.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)"
If the #nevertrump folks are able to just step out of the way and let things play out, then there should be no accusations of sabotage. Go nuts for down ticket races. The agitation for 3rd party, and the calls for a floor revolt at the convention, to undermine and disenfranchise voters is sabotage.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM (n/ogz)
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330 "Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign."
We're going to try to keep Ace in check.
We're going to try to keep Ace in check.
Posted by: jwest at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM (Zs4uk)
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Please. No "stabbed in the back" theories.
Agreed! Such fantasies are things conjured from the ether!
Agreed! Such fantasies are things conjured from the ether!
Posted by: Sen B. Sassy (R- For rent) at May 17, 2016 04:36 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (lKyWE)
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Besides Trump is more interested in other voters than conservatives. He himself says conservatives are not needed.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)
He's right. We have no where else to go. (Sure, some will grouse about staying home, but at the cost of a Hillarhoid Administration?) Appealing to the waverers is smart tactically.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)
He's right. We have no where else to go. (Sure, some will grouse about staying home, but at the cost of a Hillarhoid Administration?) Appealing to the waverers is smart tactically.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (oKE6c)
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He himself says conservatives are not needed.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)
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Funny... the GOPe says the very same thing.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)
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Funny... the GOPe says the very same thing.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (8XRCm)
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Trump is going to get massacred in the general. He won't win any blue states, and will lose a bunch of red states.
Dreaming of him winning FL, OH, and PA is like dreaming you are floating in space on a unicorn. Both of them are insane.
Dreaming of him winning FL, OH, and PA is like dreaming you are floating in space on a unicorn. Both of them are insane.
Posted by: Patrick Henry, the 2nd at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (jTy8z)
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Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:34 PM (oKE6c)
No brass knuckles?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (lKyWE)
Oooh. I knew I forgot something.
No brass knuckles?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (lKyWE)
Oooh. I knew I forgot something.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (oKE6c)
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"Do you know what's going to be Trump's undoing? Republicans working behind the scenes torpedoing his campaign."
Please. No "stabbed in the back" theories.
...
Is it really that tinfoilsh of a theory when prominent Republicans state publicly that they will not vote for him to assume there are some backroom headwinds facing him that perhaps some other candidates have not/would not have faced?
Please. No "stabbed in the back" theories.
...
Is it really that tinfoilsh of a theory when prominent Republicans state publicly that they will not vote for him to assume there are some backroom headwinds facing him that perhaps some other candidates have not/would not have faced?
Posted by: ajmojo at May 17, 2016 04:38 PM (1H9ox)
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He himself says conservatives are not needed.
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)
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Funny... the GOPe says the very same thing.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (8XRCm)
Not true!
We call you racists first!
Posted by: Harun at May 17, 2016 04:33 PM (UBBWX)
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Funny... the GOPe says the very same thing.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (8XRCm)
Not true!
We call you racists first!
Posted by: GOPe at May 17, 2016 04:38 PM (326rv)
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Re: Berghdahl.
His attorneys have been given the time to review thousands of documents pertaining to his trial.
Oh, and because of a campaign comment from Trump in NH last August, when he called Bergdahl a "traitor, who got six people killed trying to find him, "Bergdahl's lawyers, both civilian and military are claiming he cannot get a fair trial now. His team wants to depose Trump over the remarks....
Some one explain to me how a civilian's personal opinion given at a public event can cause a military jury to not be able to give a fair trail to a member of the military in a courts martial....
His attorneys have been given the time to review thousands of documents pertaining to his trial.
Oh, and because of a campaign comment from Trump in NH last August, when he called Bergdahl a "traitor, who got six people killed trying to find him, "Bergdahl's lawyers, both civilian and military are claiming he cannot get a fair trial now. His team wants to depose Trump over the remarks....
Some one explain to me how a civilian's personal opinion given at a public event can cause a military jury to not be able to give a fair trail to a member of the military in a courts martial....
Posted by: Jen the original at May 17, 2016 04:39 PM (2I2BK)
Posted by: pendantic gaggle of platypodes at May 17, 2016 04:39 PM (IQI2h)
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Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:34 PM (oKE6c)
No brass knuckles?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (lKyWE)
Oooh. I knew I forgot something.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (oKE6c)
And tridents, too.
No brass knuckles?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (lKyWE)
Oooh. I knew I forgot something.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:37 PM (oKE6c)
And tridents, too.
Posted by: Brick Tamland at May 17, 2016 04:40 PM (JO9+V)
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348 the plural of Octopus more correctly Ocotopodes, or Octopoda.
...
I thought it was 2 Octopus.
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I thought it was 2 Octopus.
Posted by: ajmojo at May 17, 2016 04:41 PM (1H9ox)
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And tridents, too.
Posted by: Brick Tamland at May 17, 2016 04:40 PM (JO9+V)
And nets! Also nunchuks. And baseball bats with nails in them. Tire irons are good, too.
And tridents, too.
Posted by: Brick Tamland at May 17, 2016 04:40 PM (JO9+V)
And nets! Also nunchuks. And baseball bats with nails in them. Tire irons are good, too.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:41 PM (oKE6c)
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Oh, and because of a campaign comment from Trump in NH last August, when he called Bergdahl a "traitor, who got six people killed trying to find him, "Bergdahl's lawyers, both civilian and military are claiming he cannot get a fair trial now. His team wants to depose Trump over the remarks....
Some one explain to me how a civilian's personal opinion given at a public event can cause a military jury to not be able to give a fair trail to a member of the military in a courts martial....
Posted by: Jen the original
When one considers that the mighty mo video maker was dragged off in the dead of night with a media convoy, followed by JEF stating on the floor of the General Assembly of the UN "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet", and then a trial in a civilian court, I call bullshit.
Some one explain to me how a civilian's personal opinion given at a public event can cause a military jury to not be able to give a fair trail to a member of the military in a courts martial....
Posted by: Jen the original
When one considers that the mighty mo video maker was dragged off in the dead of night with a media convoy, followed by JEF stating on the floor of the General Assembly of the UN "The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet", and then a trial in a civilian court, I call bullshit.
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 17, 2016 04:42 PM (326rv)
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Oh, and because of a campaign comment from Trump in NH last August, when
he called Bergdahl a "traitor, who got six people killed trying to find
him, "Bergdahl's lawyers, both civilian and military are claiming he
cannot get a fair trial now. His team wants to depose Trump over the
remarks....
Sounds like Bergdahl better pray to J that Trump doesn't get elected.
he called Bergdahl a "traitor, who got six people killed trying to find
him, "Bergdahl's lawyers, both civilian and military are claiming he
cannot get a fair trial now. His team wants to depose Trump over the
remarks....
Sounds like Bergdahl better pray to J that Trump doesn't get elected.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 17, 2016 04:42 PM (oKE6c)
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Besides Trump is more interested in other voters than conservatives. He himself says conservatives are not needed.
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Hasn't that been the position of the GOP for the last few years?
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Hasn't that been the position of the GOP for the last few years?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 04:45 PM (kTF2Z)
355
Damn, y'all are fast.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 04:47 PM (kTF2Z)
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Like Arya in Game of Thrones, I was making my own little hit list of #neverTrumpers: Romney, Rove, Jeb, Gorge Will, Kristol, Cruz, Kasich ....
And then I realized, they only help define Trump as an outsider. And they've all been incredibly fucking wrong for so long.
And then I realized, they only help define Trump as an outsider. And they've all been incredibly fucking wrong for so long.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 17, 2016 04:47 PM (r1fLd)
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337 ---If the #nevertrump folks are able to just step out of the way and let things play out, then there should be no accusations of sabotage. Go nuts for down ticket races. The agitation for 3rd party, and the calls for a floor revolt at the convention, to undermine and disenfranchise voters is sabotage.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM
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Agree 100%.
As a no-Trumper myself, I cannot advocate for him.
But what I can do is:
1) advocate against the Bitch and educate LIVs on what a POS she is
2)concentrate on the down ticket.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM
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Agree 100%.
As a no-Trumper myself, I cannot advocate for him.
But what I can do is:
1) advocate against the Bitch and educate LIVs on what a POS she is
2)concentrate on the down ticket.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 17, 2016 04:48 PM (T/5A0)
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335
Give Trump: NV, CO. IA, WI, OH. NH, NC - 259
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM
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None of the above.
Give Trump: NV, CO. IA, WI, OH. NH, NC - 259
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 17, 2016 04:35 PM
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None of the above.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 17, 2016 04:52 PM (T/5A0)
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354 Besides Trump is more interested in other voters than conservatives. He himself says conservatives are not needed.
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Hasn't that been the position of the GOP for the last few years?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 04:45 PM
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Yes. The GOPe and Trump agree on that much --- and a lot more.
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Hasn't that been the position of the GOP for the last few years?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 17, 2016 04:45 PM
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Yes. The GOPe and Trump agree on that much --- and a lot more.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 17, 2016 04:53 PM (T/5A0)
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"Agree 100%.
As a no-Trumper myself, I cannot advocate for him.
But what I can do is:
1) advocate against the Bitch and educate LIVs on what a POS she is
2)concentrate on the down ticket.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 17, 2016 04:48 PM (T/5A0)"
I think this is totally reasonable. I don't think anyone should stand for a strategy that includes backing a third party candidate in key states only to deny 270 EV's to the Dem or Rep candidate. Having the 9% approval rating congress hand pick the president is a recipe for civic disaster.
As a no-Trumper myself, I cannot advocate for him.
But what I can do is:
1) advocate against the Bitch and educate LIVs on what a POS she is
2)concentrate on the down ticket.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 17, 2016 04:48 PM (T/5A0)"
I think this is totally reasonable. I don't think anyone should stand for a strategy that includes backing a third party candidate in key states only to deny 270 EV's to the Dem or Rep candidate. Having the 9% approval rating congress hand pick the president is a recipe for civic disaster.
Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at May 17, 2016 05:00 PM (n/ogz)
361
So.... you cede FL, OH, NM and MI????
Still a Trump win.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (8XRCm)
No, but I think they are doable. PA and NY, no chance.
Still a Trump win.
Posted by: The Chicken at May 17, 2016 04:29 PM (8XRCm)
No, but I think they are doable. PA and NY, no chance.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 17, 2016 05:01 PM (jJRIy)
362
*crosses fingers for the lesser of evils*
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor of equal or greater value at May 17, 2016 05:08 PM (evdj2)
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I've managed to swallow the whole turd. I went from pro-Cruz, to "never Trump" to sure, "why the F not" in two weeks.
Man I sell out easy.
Anyway here's the problems for Canks, as I see them.
She's got negative charisma (but not so much negative charisma she could use it to her advantage). So there's a whole bunch of votes she can not get.
Her criminality frustrates a whole more votes from ever getting to her.
She managed to claim the uncoveted turf of those who demand their Walter Mondales to be a bit more like Pablo Escobar, or demand their Pablo Escobars to be more like Walter Mondale.
Of course media/party loyalists give her 35 points. But she starts hitting up against the stink ceiling rather quickly.
Man I sell out easy.
Anyway here's the problems for Canks, as I see them.
She's got negative charisma (but not so much negative charisma she could use it to her advantage). So there's a whole bunch of votes she can not get.
Her criminality frustrates a whole more votes from ever getting to her.
She managed to claim the uncoveted turf of those who demand their Walter Mondales to be a bit more like Pablo Escobar, or demand their Pablo Escobars to be more like Walter Mondale.
Of course media/party loyalists give her 35 points. But she starts hitting up against the stink ceiling rather quickly.
Posted by: In 72 hours this own't be satire at May 17, 2016 06:17 PM (svFmG)
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Also, people already know Hillary has a vagina, so there's not too much turf to gain from that ploy.
Also, the thought of Hillary's vagina costs more votes.
Also, the thought of Hillary's vagina costs more votes.
Posted by: In 72 hours I'll swallow another turd at May 17, 2016 06:22 PM (svFmG)
365
Even dead cats bounce.
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