TGIF Morning News Dump (5/6/16) [Mis. Hum.]

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1 Yo
That's all

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 06, 2016 07:57 AM (h41Z5)

2 Oh
Cubbies are still killing it!!!
And da bears!!!

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 06, 2016 07:58 AM (h41Z5)

3 2nd?

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 07:58 AM (10hEu)

4 Document: Billings lawyer arrested for DUI told officer she had police chief on 'speed dial'

Call Greg. Call him.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 07:58 AM (mEZce)

5 HUMA! NOOOO!!!! WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU?

Posted by: Hillary at May 06, 2016 07:59 AM (10hEu)

6 DDT.....could save millions of people
Stupid hippies

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 06, 2016 07:59 AM (h41Z5)

7 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 07:59 AM (6hZFv)

8 Are you a ticking time bomb? Take the test.

----

No need for a test.

Another week of this shit ass weather and it will be proven.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:00 AM (mEZce)

9 4. I have T on speed dial
If I screw up she's the last person I would want to call
Besides, she'd let me rot in jail

Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 06, 2016 08:01 AM (h41Z5)

10

DAY 1,277

186 to go (259 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:02 AM (p4UlV)

11

Nice dump.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:02 AM (qCMvj)

12

Are you a ticking time bomb? Take the test.

nope

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:03 AM (qCMvj)

13
ICYMI and need a good laugh at my expense, I was the last caller on Levin last night.

Ugh. I think I sounded like MUMR writes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:03 AM (p4UlV)

14 That dick gerlado on FOX...and more than that I wll not say since I would call him something that would be deleted that Cumsemack

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:03 AM (V/InG)

15

The new Bill Whittle video.

Bill Whittle's Firewall: President Failure's Smart Diplomacy

Obama and his "Smart Diplomacy" have been an absolute catastrophe for the US and her allies, and a huge boon to those who wish us harm.

http://bit.ly/1Zm6SV8

always good

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:04 AM (qCMvj)

16 Reporter: Obama Admin Response to Attacks on Civilians' 'Weak Beer'

I thought Field Marshall Fruitcake would go it alone to save civilians in Syria.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2016 08:05 AM (45oDG)

17 Bill Whittle's Firewall: President Failure's Smart Diplomacy

Obama and his "Smart Diplomacy" have been an absolute catastrophe for the US and her allies, and a huge boon to those who wish us harm.

http://bit.ly/1Zm6SV8

always good

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:04 AM (qCMvj)

I would include Barry in those that wish to harm us

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2016 08:05 AM (45oDG)

18
G-d bless the memory of Frank Levingston. We need so many more like him and there are so few left.

Rest In Peace, and well done, sir.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:06 AM (p4UlV)

19 U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spent $100,000 renovating the suite not only of director Sarah Saldana, but also her assistants office, according to an internal document obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.

In response to a query submitted by a Senate Committee on Appropriations staffer regarding the cost of office renovation, ICE confirmed that it had modified the directors suite to improve the workflow and usable desk space.

Fuckin cock suckers....and They don't even give out free Cat Card Readers to the Military anymore?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:06 AM (V/InG)

20 FDA takes significant steps to protect Americans from dangers of tobacco through new regulation

That should be reworded to say FDA issues a new raft of illegal pen and phone regulations that will cost millions and do nothing. And e-cigarettes are not "tobacco based".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:06 AM (vvmPQ)

21 Good morning all!

From this week in 1944- Anzio

The EZ Dog Journal

May 5, 1944
This is one of those cold cloudy days that makes one wonder if spring is here or not. It has been fairly quiet though - so I don't much mind.

May 6, 1944
After working all night I felt I'd like to sleep up stairs for a change. Capt Evans has a room on the third floor so I went up. The little old lady who owns the house saw me and started raising "Cain". After I assured her by my best sign language that all I wanted to do was sleep - she became quite motherly - even to the extent of finding a mattress for me.
Gerry was a bit promiscuous with his artillery early this morning. The 35 Gp was hit pretty hard. One man killed, another wounded from a direct hit on a fox hole.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 06, 2016 08:07 AM (NeFrd)

22 Very nice feel good story of the day, MisHum. The comments stink for the most part.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:07 AM (dFi94)

23 14 That dick gerlado on FOX...and more than that I wll not say since I would call him something that would be deleted that Cumsemack
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:03 AM (V/InG)

He should be turned into a chandelier. To swing by day and burn by night.

AND . . . vayr ge hargit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:07 AM (p4UlV)

24 On the "Ogabe Admin has us living in a Potemkin Foggy Bottom"....

Yes, yes the Obama admin are a bunch of lying cocksuckers...can't wait until we eat a nuke "unexpectedly"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:08 AM (g8Hfr)

25 Hey, JJ - I thought you sounded just fine on Levin. No MUMR-like murmurings that I could hear. And Levin must have liked you too because he gave you a year of Levin TV, right?

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:08 AM (2WwbN)

26 Voter ID in MO? Not to worry, Obama's corrupt DOJ will get and injunction from a picked liberal asshole judge and delay it until after the election.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:09 AM (vvmPQ)

27 In response to a query submitted by a Senate Committee on Appropriations staffer regarding the cost of office renovation, ICE confirmed that it had modified the directors suite to improve the workflow and usable desk space.

Fuckin cock suckers....and They don't even give out free Cat Card Readers to the Military anymore?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:06 AM (V/InG)

Why would they need more workable desk space. They aren't doing their jobs against illegals.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2016 08:09 AM (45oDG)

28
Well Hymietown became even less freer as the city council passed a nickel tax on all plastic and paper bags.

Meh. I grab a handful at the register anyway for my cat-poo disposal and no one ever complains.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:09 AM (p4UlV)

29 At about 10 p.m. on April 16 near 60th Street West and Grand Avenue,
investigators say Braukmann was driving with three children in the car
when a trooper pulled her over. Braukmann had an open bottle of vodka in
the car and abreathalyzer test registered her blood alcohol content at
0.247 percent, more than three times the legal limit, according to
documents.
======================================

Hey lady - go ahead and crash your own self. Do not take three children with you. Also, your hair looks bad.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:10 AM (dFi94)

30 4 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 07:58 AM (mEZce)

Did it make statewide news here when "the Seal that shot OBL" got a DUI here last month I think...

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/rob-oneill-arrested-for-dui-in-butte/38931880

Rob O'Neill DUI b/c "*everyone* drinks ESPECIALLY in Butte....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:10 AM (g8Hfr)

31 Ugh. I think I sounded like MUMR writes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

*****

You didn't do it in a Jerry Lewis voice did you?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 06, 2016 08:11 AM (NeFrd)

32 25 Hey, JJ - I thought you sounded just fine on Levin. No MUMR-like murmurings that I could hear. And Levin must have liked you too because he gave you a year of Levin TV, right?
Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:08 AM (2WwbN)

I guess so. Last time I was on he gave me a copy of his dad's book of the Gettysburg Address. People have very strong feelings about the guy, but I really like him.

Intellectual heavyweight but a real street sensibility. He's one of the champs, IMHO.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:11 AM (p4UlV)

33 Yeah, I'm irritable. Aholes that rub me the wrong way should expect some splinters.

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2016 08:11 AM (HtUkt)

34 Grammy, that was the first thing I thought of too. And the even sadder thing is, this is probably not the first time she's done something like this. If you're driving with an open bottle of vodka beside you, this ain't your first rodeo, I'm guessing.

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:11 AM (2WwbN)

35 31 You didn't do it in a Jerry Lewis voice did you?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at May 06, 2016 08:11 AM (NeFrd)

More like Shari Lewis.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:12 AM (p4UlV)

36 The article on the mothballed nuke plant shows what is wrong with the country. Their study says they don't need any more base power for the next 20 years.

If we wanted to get to full employment and have rising wages, we would be building 500 identical nuke plants across the country to provide as much electrical energy as needed for free.

No need to go to India and China for steel, aluminum, copper, concrete and a thousand other products that require large amounts of energy to produce. New products and processes would be developed that we can't even imagine if we had nearly-free unlimited power.

Want to help seniors but can't afford a rise in Social Security? Want to help low income people and middle class workers? Give them nearly-free power for heating/air conditioning and everything else.

Let private industry do the distribution through existing utilities, but let the federal government supply base power to the grid.

With 500 plants spread out over the country, the risk of being knocked out by some man-made or terrorist action is reduced to nothing. We'll always have power.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 08:12 AM (Zs4uk)

37 19 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:06 AM (V/InG)

Man wife had to buy her CAC card reader...

we traveled to Charleston to get one integrated to a keyboard given NEXCOM's usual sobriety and sense compared to AAFES.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:12 AM (g8Hfr)

38 Voter ID in MO? Not to worry, Obama's corrupt DOJ
will get and injunction from a picked liberal asshole judge and delay it
until after the election.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:09 AM (vvmPQ)
==============================================

I think it took us 4 or 5 years to get Voter ID through all the court challenges. It would be approved, then knocked down, then approved, then knocked down again. This primary election was the first time I was actually asked to show I.D. I yelled out a big "YES!". The old ladies at the table looked at me funny.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:12 AM (dFi94)

39 Well Hymietown became even less freer as the city council passed a nickel tax on all plastic and paper bags.

Meh. I grab a handful at the register anyway for my cat-poo disposal and no one ever complains.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:09 AM (p4UlV)

I read that. Is that a nickel tax for any use or per bag?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:13 AM (V/InG)

40 I like Levin too, but I much prefer his writings to listening to him. It gets to be too much for me. He has interesting guests though, and I like his interviews with them.

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:13 AM (2WwbN)

41 SpaceX successfully launched a Japanese communications satellite and once again landed the first stage on their drone ship Of Course I Still Love You. This was a much more aggressive landing burn because the stage was coming in hotter than the previous one in April.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/05/falcon-9-jcsat-14-launch/

Posted by: rickl at May 06, 2016 08:13 AM (sdi6R)

42 I gotta get and willowed post too long to rewrite.

And thanks rickb223 but you're not one of the folks who needed to follow up on it.
Now to try to make productive use of my last vacation day. The crappie shut down due to them dropping the lake and all I managed yesterday was a 32" blue cat. Fun rasslin' match but 3" below minimum keeper limit.

Posted by: teej at May 06, 2016 08:13 AM (ijopM)

43 36 Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 08:12 AM (Zs4uk)

It's not that "they don't get it" West it is that they "do not WANT reality to be real."

The GOP must be in on the gag too or they'd be running the donk's Kevorkian via energy gap plans up their ass.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:14 AM (g8Hfr)

44 RWC, any news for us?

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:14 AM (2WwbN)

45 A Billings lawyer, who has handled casework for the state of Montana and
the city of Billings, tried to use her position to get out of a DUI
arrest, according to documents filed in the case.

She should have known that only a Democrat official in Austin can get away with that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:15 AM (vvmPQ)

46 36 Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 08:12 AM (Zs4uk)

It's the government. The c**K-sucking, mother-f***ing, thieving, power mad, insane, tyrannical leftist, freedom-killing bureaucracy that is the root cause of everything - EVERYTHING - we are suffering with today.

Is it too much to ask Mr. Trump to please articulate that and to actually behave and act as if he believed it?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:15 AM (p4UlV)

47 Why would they need more workable desk space. They aren't doing their jobs against illegals.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 06, 2016 08:09 AM (45oDG)
***
I think you are laboring under a misapprehension regarding their duties, citizen.

They're doing their job, I assure you.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 08:15 AM (lutOX)

48 12 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:03 AM (qCMvj)

I am a pacifist...I scored "Mahatma Ghandi"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:15 AM (g8Hfr)

49 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 06, 2016 08:16 AM (ZQfW9)

50 Those feel good stories sure make it misty around here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:16 AM (vvmPQ)

51 39
I read that. Is that a nickel tax for any use or per bag?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:13 AM (V/InG)

Yes. The only people exempt? Those on welfare and food stamps.

I shit you not, my friend.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:16 AM (p4UlV)

52 As if you didn't need more proof about the liberal/hollywood agenda being forced onto us... more examples today:

This Is How Hollywood Brainwashes the Masses
Bias and lies can be so subtle, yet so powerful.

...A recent example comes from Fox's prime-time soap opera Empire.

A new episode focuses on main character Lucious Lyon's mentally ill mother. The scene describes how she had been placed in a state-run mental institution before being dumped out onto the street by...you guessed it: President Ronald Reagan....

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/how-hollywood-brainwashes-masses

AND, from Newsbusters.org

ABC Show Trashes Angry 'White Men' and 'Filthy Country People'

ABC's Scandal had two separate characters rant about "white men" and "country people."

http://bit.ly/21DFrYM

I've never watched either, and certainly won't now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:16 AM (qCMvj)

53 25 Hey, JJ - I thought you sounded just fine on Levin. No MUMR-like murmurings that I could hear. And Levin must have liked you too because he gave you a year of Levin TV, right?

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:08 AM (2WwbN)

Wait, what?

The only bit of Levin I listened to last night was JJ???

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:16 AM (mEZce)

54 I thought irritable male syndrome was a description not a condition.

Hey does this mean I'm part of some victim group now and can start demanding stuff?

#getoffmylawn

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 06, 2016 08:17 AM (Xo1Rt)

55 That irritability test - who wouldn't answer "yes" to all five questions? Especially in an election season like this.

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:17 AM (2WwbN)

56 She should have known that only a Democrat official in Austin can get away with that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:15 AM (vvmPQ)
***
Heh, and she got to use Travis County libs to bring charges against the Governor when he tried to defund her office until she stepped down.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 08:17 AM (lutOX)

57 Yes. The only people exempt? Those on welfare and food stamps.

I shit you not, my friend.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:16 AM (p4UlV)

Yeah I saw who was exempt LMAO

No I mean is it 5 cents per bag? Or a 5 cent charge not matter how many you use?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:18 AM (V/InG)

58 Wow, the cute has worn right off Huma since she went under the bus.

Even without this scandal, I'd expect Hillary to be trading her in for a younger and hotter "personal assistant" soon.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 08:18 AM (SmRdu)

59 56 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 08:17 AM (lutOX)

Do note, the defunding WORKED.

Memo to Paul Ryan:

How's my ass taste?

//Rick Perry

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:18 AM (g8Hfr)

60 44 RWC, any news for us?

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:14 AM (2WwbN)

Going to lunch next week when our schedules are open

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:18 AM (mEZce)

61 Is it too much to ask Mr. Trump to please articulate that and to actually behave and act as if he believed it?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:15 AM (p4UlV)

If it was anything other than nuclear power, I wouldn't want the government anywhere near it. However, they are the only ones that can eliminate all the costs associated with licensing, liability, siting, lawsuits and security.

This is more than economic. It's a national security issue.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (Zs4uk)

62 Ticking Time Bomb TL;DR

Did they conclude that losing one's temper makes you a danger to society?

Everyone gets angry at something. Most everyone understands the line between losing one's temper and doing violent deeds, and only a few cross that line.

Some of the events of the day should make you angry.
Look at the SJW, leftists in general who are all angry at something. This test isn't for them because their anger is righteous anger.

This test is for the white male christian patriarchy because their anger is oppression of the minority, i.e. directed against the left who are trying to self righteously destroy western civilization.

Why are you so angry, bro?

Posted by: Loran Gerban at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (PijGQ)

63 58 Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 08:18 AM (SmRdu)

I've always been a big believer in %s of a culture that are sizzling skillet hot....

it may take a while for EUrabia to mint Hillary! another tongue scratcher....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (g8Hfr)

64
Well Hymietown became even less freer as the city council passed a nickel tax on all plastic and paper bags.

======

Here it's 10 cents a bag but the store keeps the money.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (EZebt)

65 Going to lunch next week when our schedules are open
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:18 AM (mEZce)
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Hey, that's terrific! Hopefully the weather will clear and the birdies will be singing and all will be right with the world.

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (2WwbN)

66 57 Yeah I saw who was exempt LMAO

No I mean is it 5 cents per bag? Or a 5 cent charge not matter how many you use?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:18 AM (V/InG)

I believe it is per bag. Could be worse. California banned all plastic bags. I'd make a fortune grabbing them and selling them there.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (p4UlV)

67 Holy crap! Smoke, smoke, everywhere, Canada is on fire.

Posted by: Fritz at May 06, 2016 08:20 AM (UzPAd)

68 WOO-WOO!!!

Next stop Paul Ryan.

Well not so much as a stop, but a bump.

An Irish flat really. Nice & squishy.

Posted by: Trump Train at May 06, 2016 08:20 AM (10hEu)

69 61 Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (Zs4uk)

It gets easier when you understand the democrats WANT us to fall behind the state of the art on energy and national defense.

We will *never* get out of this solar system until we master fusion...

we will not master fusion without the nuclear energy needed to experiment with stability.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:21 AM (g8Hfr)

70 61 Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (Zs4uk)

Well, of course there are always certain things that require a very diligent public oversight. I mean, just look at the bang-up job the TSA is doing in keeping us safe in the air.

/s

But you are right about nukes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:21 AM (p4UlV)

71 Quite the listing on Craig List

Never-completed TVA nuclear plant that cost $4B for sale

this could fall into the wrong hands, what on earth...

of course, it could be the new Trump property, restaurant, nuclear B&B.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:21 AM (qCMvj)

72 New podcast up:

http://podcast.aoshq.com/2016/05/06/trumpageddon/

Posted by: Serenity Now! at May 06, 2016 08:21 AM (BDZWU)

73
"FDA takes significant steps to protect Americans from dangers of tobacco through new regulation"

On the bright side we have found smoking marijuana poses absolutely no threat of any type whatsoever so smoke as much of that as you want folks..

Posted by: FDA at May 06, 2016 08:22 AM (1BQGO)

74 Paul Ryan's challenger, John Nehlen, will appear with Michelle Malkin in Pleasant Prairie WI on May 27th. If anyone in the area is interested, it's at the Radisson across from the outlet mall.

http://www.paulnehlen.com/malkin

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:22 AM (dFi94)

75 52 I've never watched either, and certainly won't now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:16 AM (qCMvj)

RR dumping the mental institutions is a pure outright lie generated by liberals. The mental institutions were "dumped" so to speak by a class action civil suit brought forth by the liberals in the ACLU.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:23 AM (vvmPQ)

76 So, an appearance on Levin and an article in the June "Model Railroader." And of course my posts hither and thither on the inter-webs.

I now proclaim myself the king of all media

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:23 AM (p4UlV)

77 73 Posted by: FDA at May 06, 2016 08:22 AM (1BQGO)

Be sure to hold the smoke as deep and as long as you can man....

//FDA

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:23 AM (g8Hfr)

78 Well Hymietown became even less freer as the city council passed a nickel tax on all plastic and paper bags.

======

Here it's 10 cents a bag but the store keeps the money.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (EZebt)

I haven't used store bags in over a decade. It's easier for me to carry everything in my cloth bags. I pack and check out myself of course. That way I can put everything where I want it.

The plastic bags are too weak for me.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:23 AM (qCMvj)

79 Hey, that's terrific! Hopefully the weather will clear and the birdies will be singing and all will be right with the world.

Posted by: bluebell at May 06, 2016 08:19 AM (2WwbN)

Hope so. 'cause right now the weather is affecting me in a not great way. Should be happy as shit but going on two weeks with another week of gray and rainy sucks. Seriously, I don't know how someone can live in Seattle or other rainy ass city.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:24 AM (mEZce)

80 >>>72 New podcast up:

http://podcast.aoshq.com/2016/05/06/trumpageddon/
Posted by: Serenity Now! at May 06, 2016 08:21 AM (BDZWU)

________

Thanks for posting this. They have been so infrequent recently I forgot to check every Friday.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 08:24 AM (10hEu)

81 76 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:23 AM (p4UlV)

Congrats.

You made it Sefton....

Next stop Russia Today with Big Ed Schultz on "Crossed Fire-Interlocking Views of the NewsCycle"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:24 AM (g8Hfr)

82 oh for the love of pete - you have to pay $10 to even watch the live stream

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:25 AM (dFi94)

83 78 I haven't used store bags in over a decade. It's easier for me to carry everything in my cloth bags. I pack and check out myself of course. That way I can put everything where I want it.

The plastic bags are too weak for me.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:23 AM (qCMvj)

I have a granny cart with the canvas liner from an old VersaCart that I destroyed shlepping heavy books in. The plastic bags prevent germs and disease. Nearly got into it with one loony dame at Whole Paycheck who was turning purple at the fish guy because he wouldn't let her use some ratty plastic bag she collected somewhere to put the fish in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (p4UlV)

84 The Three Bears Alaska Blueberry Muffin from last night has attacked my digestive system like a lava floe goes through snow.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (g8Hfr)

85 Cubbies are still killing it!!!

They will find a way to lose.

Posted by: Bartman and his pet goat at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (SeD0w)

86 I haven't used store bags in over a decade. It's easier for me to carry everything in my cloth bags. I pack and check out myself of course. That way I can put everything where I want it.

The plastic bags are too weak for me.

Count up every item you have in your bags. Multiply by a nickel.
Ask the manager to take that off your bill since you did all the work.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (6hZFv)

87 FDA takes significant steps to protect Americans from dangers of tobacco through new regulation

That
should be reworded to say FDA issues a new raft of illegal pen and
phone regulations that will cost millions and do nothing. And
e-cigarettes are not "tobacco based".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 08:06 AM (vvmPQ)

Thus insuring the half million deaths in this country from Lung Cancer continue unabated...also protects all that sweet cigarette tax money.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 06, 2016 08:27 AM (vRKfn)

88 81 Next stop Russia Today with Big Ed Schultz on "Crossed Fire-Interlocking Views of the NewsCycle"
Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:24 AM (g8Hfr)

They used to have Vladimir Posner and now they have Blathering Poseur.

I should audition for Novosti, nyet?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:27 AM (p4UlV)

89 Cubbies are still killing it!!!

They will find a way to lose.

Posted by: Bartman and his pet goat at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (SeD0w)
===========================================

Do not type those words out loud.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:28 AM (dFi94)

90 83 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (p4UlV)

YES YES

Back in Carolina Del Sur at Hole Foods some idiot was arguing against me that the faux canvas paper bags they shill were not in fact germ repositories...

the paper melts in the wash ergo people do not wash them.....ergo germ magnet

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:28 AM (g8Hfr)

91

An Ace of Spades HQ's call out over at Instapundit today

As for Rhodes' foreign policy skills -- or the lack thereof -- Ace of Spades has you more than covered, as he fisks wide swatches of the article, including this passage:

His lack of conventional real-world experience of the kind that normally precedes responsibility for the fate of nations -- like military or diplomatic service, or even a master's degree in international relations, rather than creative writing -- is still startling.

Posted at 8:11 am by Ed Driscoll

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (qCMvj)

92 88 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:27 AM (p4UlV)

The Hot Blonde on the Russian Language Feed....

I'd definitely hold out for a monthly backrub from her.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (g8Hfr)

93 6 DDT.....could save millions of people
Stupid hippies
Posted by: Navycopjoe at May 06, 2016 07:59 AM (h41Z5)

I may be wrong, it has been a while since I read this somewhere, but IIRC the person who invented it spooned some out and ate it at one time to prove it was fine. But yeah, hippies gotta hip because endangered bugs or some such nonsense.

Posted by: jsg at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (gs8be)

94 Want to know what else is coming to you soon courtesy of crazy California besides paying for grocery bags?

Raising the smoking age to 21. (No, not for weed.)

Simultaneously lowering the voting age to 16.

Because the yutes can't be trusted with cigarettes but can be trusted to vote. For Democrats.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (EZebt)

95 "47
Why would they need more workable desk space.

Posted by: TheQuietMan"

Do we really want our nations dedicated public servants having office sex on cluttered desks? That would be dangerous and unseemly.

Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (1BQGO)

96 FDA takes significant steps to protect Americans from dangers of tobacco through new regulation"

Ok, here's a fun one: My ancestors were smoking tobacco (rustica) millennia before the FDA.
So, what say I light up a fine stogie in a "government" location and claim "privilege"?

Might be fun to do just to watch heads explode...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (C9pBZ)

97 I understand using canvas satchels et al for canned or boxed goods. But produce, meats and fish are a real no-no and just axing for trouble.

But the government and GreenFleas know best.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (p4UlV)

98 91 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (qCMvj)

What's hilarious is the Democrat enabling newsies don't get they are destroying their long-term ability to mold the people.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:30 AM (g8Hfr)

99 Thus insuring the half million deaths in this country from Lung Cancer continue unabated...also protects all that sweet cigarette tax money.

Fuck 'em. Four years tobacco free April 1st. One year totally nicotine free last October. Went Galt.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:30 AM (6hZFv)

100 LULZ.

"COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) - A new job description for the next University of Missouri System president says that whoever enters the position will be expected to create a vision for the system, assemble a leadership team and lead a statewide conversation about diversity inclusion, equity and respect."

http://preview.tinyurl.com/gulcf8n

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 08:30 AM (mL2BD)

101 Paul Ryan is a no talent assclown.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 06, 2016 08:31 AM (FQukk)

102
also at http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

CAMILLE PAGLIA: Dem strategists knew Trump was 'most formidable' challenge to Clinton.

In her latest Salon column (seriously, she's the only reason ever to click on that website), outspoken social critic Camille Paglia suggests that "savvy Democratic strategists have surely known for months that [ businessman Donald ] Trump was by far the most formidable of Hillary Clinton's potential opponents."

Her evidence for this? The fact that Democrats ( especially those in the media ) have "been playing the race and riot cards against him to the max." Included in the charges against Trump, of course, were accusations of sexism.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:31 AM (qCMvj)

103 Maybe someone brought it up upthread re: wind farms and raptors. Malaria (the disease, not Obumbles preznit-in-training) was virtually eradicated by DDT in the 70's. Now it's making a spectacular comeback in the 3rd world b/c a weak link (see also: global warming) between raptor populations and the pesticide. It's pretty clear greenies will sacrifice any population, human or "endangered" raptor, on their alter of socialist control.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 06, 2016 08:32 AM (SeD0w)

104 94 Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (EZebt)

Nothing new, Donks lowered the voting age to 18...then raised the drinking age.

They consider voting for elected office to be a task that requires no judgement and no experience.

They consider choosing your own snacks something you probably shouldn't have liberty for until ~35 years old.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:32 AM (g8Hfr)

105 RR dumping the mental institutions is a pure outright lie generated by liberals.

I had a hippie friend who believed until his dying day that RR had declared catsup a vegetable, disregarding all evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: Grump928(C) is nothing if not equanimous at May 06, 2016 08:32 AM (rwI+c)

106 Fuck 'em. Four years tobacco free April 1st. One year totally nicotine free last October. Went Galt.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:30 AM (6hZFv)

That's hardcore, good on you rickb.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at May 06, 2016 08:34 AM (wOKJp)

107 101 Paul Ryan is a no talent assclown.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 06, 2016 08:31 AM (FQukk)

That is his talent.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:34 AM (p4UlV)

108 Nearly got into it with one loony dame at Whole
Paycheck who was turning purple at the fish guy because he wouldn't let
her use some ratty plastic bag she collected somewhere to put the fish
in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (p4UlV)

Well at least it wasn't a bag knitted with yarn. You know, from *shifts nervously and averts eyes* "down there."

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2016 08:34 AM (JO9+V)

109 I had a hippie friend who believed until his dying day that RR had declared catsup a vegetable, disregarding all evidence to the contrary.

Stoopid hippie. It's a condiment, not a vegetable.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:34 AM (6hZFv)

110 "Did they conclude that losing one's temper makes you a danger to society? "

Kanye West and Alec Baldwin hardest hit.

TrigglyPuff is gonna need a closer look as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 08:34 AM (ptqRm)

111
Fuck 'em. Four years tobacco free April 1st. One year totally nicotine free last October. Went Galt.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:30 AM (6hZFv)

Cigarette free for 14 months now. Thanks largely to vaping. Britain recognizes this, and advises smokers there to switch...over here, the FDA would prefer we continue smoking.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 06, 2016 08:35 AM (vRKfn)

112 106 Fuck 'em. Four years tobacco free April 1st. One year totally nicotine free last October. Went Galt.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:30 AM (6hZFv)

That's hardcore, good on you rickb.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at May 06, 2016 08:34 AM (wOKJp)

25 years this August. Never a heavy smoker, certainly not by the end. Still, it's money saved. Hopefully health as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:35 AM (p4UlV)

113 Ryan should remind people why Trump is the presumptive Republican Nominee. It's him and scumbags like him that gave us Trump.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:35 AM (V/InG)

114 Count up every item you have in your bags. Multiply by a nickel.
Ask the manager to take that off your bill since you did all the work.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:26 AM (6hZFv)

I don't get charged if I use my own bags. The machine asks how many bags I used, where I say zero, and do not get charged.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:36 AM (qCMvj)

115 RR dumping the mental institutions is a pure outright lie generated by liberals. "

You know it's gone bad when even wikistupida can't even support that line...

(in support of Vic, know that the "de" institutionalizing movement hit it's stride nationwide in the 60s and 70s, thus leading to the explosion of homelessness reports during "R" presidencies)

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:36 AM (C9pBZ)

116 A horrible crime had Austrian Police Baffled!!!

http://www.thelocal.at/20160506/beheaded-lamb-

mystery-leaves-police-stumped

A young lamb had been beheaded. The head taken. The body found was bloodless.

"We're baffled!", said Constable Oompapa.

Into the room strode naturalfake smoking his trademark meerschaum pipe.

"naturalfake! Thank God, you're here. We're baffled by this horrible mystery!"

"Yeah, I know." said naturalfake "Big fucking mystery, you Austrian nimrods."

He pointed an accusing finger, "Bloodless body means halal meat. Lamb's head is an Arabian delicacy. Stolen lamb means a cheap s.o.b. with no social or psychological connection to Austrian ways or laws."

"It was the muslim! It was you, Mohammed "Penny Pincher" Mohammed."

"Gasp!" gasped Mohammed "Penny Rincher" Mohammed "By Allah's underwear! How did you know, naturalfake?"

"I just told you." said naturalfake.

"By the Prophet's nose hairs! I wasn't listening." said Mohammed "Penny Pincher" Mohammed.

"Well...then fuck you." said naturalfake "Take him away boys!"

"Uhhhhhhh...well....you see..." stammered the Constable "The accused is one of our fine muslim immigrants making our lives better here in Europe. I can't arrest him or I'll get fired."

"I see..." said naturalfake pensively smoking his meerschaum pipe,

"Welp. Then fuck all y'all. I'm out."

FIN

Posted by: A naturalfake 5 Second Mystery at May 06, 2016 08:36 AM (oU3Bb)

117 "Paul Ryan is a no talent assclown. "

That's a disservice to no-talent assclowns across America.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2016 08:36 AM (03Tq/)

118 I don't get charged if I use my own bags. The machine asks how many bags I used, where I say zero, and do not get charged.

True. But he also didn't have to pay someone to check you out and another one to bag you. That's worth money.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:37 AM (6hZFv)

119 115 Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:36 AM (C9pBZ)

I'm always touched how the homeless all have homes during Donk admins....

I must have hallucinated the tent cities under the ATL overpasses on I-75 back in 2013...

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:37 AM (g8Hfr)

120 113 Ryan should remind people why Trump is the presumptive Republican Nominee. It's him and scumbags like him that gave us Trump.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:35 AM (V/InG)

Requires self-awareness on his part. Although it's a mystery. Do they really not understand why Trump and Sanders or is it an act? I tend to think the latter simply because they know exactly what they are doing with all the omnibus bills, the Iran sellout and everything else that ignores the will of the people as well as common sense and Americanism in general.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:38 AM (p4UlV)

121 I may be wrong, it has been a while since I read this somewhere, but IIRC the person who invented it spooned some out and ate it at one time to prove it was fine. But yeah, hippies gotta hip because endangered bugs or some such nonsense.

Posted by: jsg at May 06, 2016 08:29 AM (gs8be)

There are other examples but I just watched this:

This is clipped from the record of the 1946 campaign to check an epidemic of malaria in the Kipsigis tribal reserve in the Kisumu district of north-west Kenya by spraying village huts with DDT. A team of public health workers are sent into the rural areas to convince villagers that spraying their huts with DDT will help stop the disease. When the skeptical tribal headman, Arap Kipkoi, resists DDT as poisonous, the British officer has DDT sprayed on a bowl of porridge and then eats a mouthful to prove DDT is not dangerous to humans

------

Thanks for the comment. Had no idea that happened.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:38 AM (mEZce)

122 Offered without comment

http://www.weaselzippers.us/270053-friday-open-thread-123/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (ptqRm)

123 Cigarette free for 14 months now. Thanks largely to vaping. Britain recognizes this, and advises smokers there to switch...over here, the FDA would prefer we continue smoking.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket

That's how I did it. Cigarette to vape to lozenges & Werther's to done. Fini.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (6hZFv)

124 Thanks for posting this. They have been so infrequent recently I forgot to check every Friday.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 08:24 AM (10hEu)

You're welcome. I developed a habit of checking every Friday luckily. But last week it was posted late so I didn't even know about it until I got home from work.

Posted by: Serenity Now! at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (BDZWU)

125 119 115 Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:36 AM (C9pBZ)

I'm always touched how the homeless all have homes during Donk admins....

I must have hallucinated the tent cities under the ATL overpasses on I-75 back in 2013...
Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:37 AM (g8Hfr)

As if Ocean Park in Santa Monica simply . . . disappeared from view since 2009.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (p4UlV)

126 Just sitting here watching a TV commercial for Ferguson home fixtures.

It made me think of 25 years ago when Al Bundy got his Ferguson toilet. His dad would have been so proud.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (03Tq/)

127 over here, the FDA would prefer we continue smoking.

They've got their fingers into you through the ciggies. They're not going to pull them out just because you switch to vaping.

If anything illustrates it's about control, it's the bureaucratic fiats that came down yesterday.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (mL2BD)

128 Love the naturalfake 5 second mystery. Hope its a series!

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (/m8T6)

129 >91 holla holla holla

That Ben Rhodes article should be required effing reading. Just like Ace.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (wOKJp)

130 123 That's how I did it. Cigarette to vape to lozenges & Werther's to done. Fini.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:39 AM (6hZFv)

For women, include penises. Before the Werther's.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:40 AM (p4UlV)

131 I must have hallucinated the tent cities under the ATL overpasses on I-75 back in 2013...
Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:37 AM (g8Hfr)

*****

If you drove through today you would still be hallucinating them, but think double the size.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 06, 2016 08:40 AM (2sPo+)

132 Heard from my mother about the swing through of coal-country made by Abuela Borracha.

That best did herself no favors trying to double-talk a bunch of coal workers whose already hard lives were made far worse by the policies she's supported.

Bernie, well, he at least treated the locals with something like respect, even if his prescriptions - clean energy jobs? wind and solar jobs for people living atop some of the largest and best reserves of coal in the world? - are typical leftist insanity.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 08:40 AM (lutOX)

133 I must have hallucinated the tent cities under the ATL overpasses on I-75 back in 2013..."

Na, that's just more FUNEMPLOYMENT in the Recovery Summer.

Or not.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:40 AM (C9pBZ)

134 My grandmother worked in the cafeteria of a mental hospital. Let's just say it wasn't a good place to be. But the answer was not closing all of them down. I don't really know what the answer should have been. Most larger hospitals have a psych unit, but I believe they are generally for acute care, not chronic on-going conditions. It's very hard to get someone committed today if they do not want to be committed themselves. And it's very costly. Many insurance carriers including Medicare only re-imburse 50%, not 80/20.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:41 AM (dFi94)

135 131 Posted by: ManWithNoParty at May 06, 2016 08:40 AM (2sPo+)

"Obamavilles"

//phrases never to be uttered or types by whore ass Jlisters

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:41 AM (g8Hfr)

136 Ryan should remind people why Trump is the presumptive Republican Nominee. It's him and scumbags like him that gave us Trump.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:35 AM (V/InG)

they don't get it

I bet he was one of the one that drew up the pledge.

The Republican presidential front-runner met privately with Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus Thursday afternoon, and soon after, came out to the lobby of Trump Tower to declare that he has signed a loyalty pledge. This means Trump has promised to support the party's eventual nominee -- whoever that may be -- and that he will not run as a third-party candidate. old cnn piece

Notice the change in heart of many for a 3rd party (I've seen this somewhere twice now in "conservative" news) or Libertarian choice?

We Need a Third Party Right Away

http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/05/we-need-a-third-party-right-away/

Gary Johnson for President? The Case for -- and against -- the Likely Libertarian Nominee

nro

I've been screaming 3rd party since the Tea Party formed. And was burned at the stake. That was the best window to do it.

what a joke

screw the gop

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:41 AM (qCMvj)

137 " Abuela Borracha. "

Aunt Drunkard.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 06, 2016 08:42 AM (03Tq/)

138 Abuela Borracha"

Ok, that's a good one.

I'm stealing it.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:42 AM (C9pBZ)

139 132 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 08:40 AM (lutOX)

Clean energy jobs? Put the illegals to work hand washing every lump of coal mined in West Virginia and use their pay to finance one-way tickets south of the border.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:43 AM (p4UlV)

140 Requires self-awareness on his part. Although it's a mystery. Do they really not understand why Trump and Sanders or is it an act? I tend to think the latter simply because they know exactly what they are doing with all the omnibus bills, the Iran sellout and everything else that ignores the will of the people as well as common sense and Americanism in general.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:38 AM (p4UlV

As long as you live under my roof you will do what you are told peons
Posted by: Paul Ryan and your betters

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 06, 2016 08:43 AM (voOPb)

141 "Put the illegals to work hand washing every lump of coal mined in West Virginia "

Would that be at $15.00 per hour?

Cause I could use some income

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 08:44 AM (ptqRm)

142 I love that Ryan is darkly moody about the outcome of the primaries, and saying Trump has "work to do" before Ryan will support him.

This is the same Ryan who not only caved to SCOAMF on the latest budget request but, mysteriously, gave him more money than he asked for.

Ryan will be eaten alive by TFG2, and he would be better off recognizing that fact quickly so he looks like less of an idiot.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 08:44 AM (/m8T6)

143 140 As long as you live under my roof you will do what you are told peons
Posted by: Paul Ryan and your betters
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 06, 2016 08:43 AM (voOPb)

**rummages through Ryan's kitchen drawers for matches and lighter fluid**

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:44 AM (p4UlV)

144 136 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:41 AM (qCMvj)

While I'll not argue that they could hardly be more willfully malignant than the Democrats, or more stupid than the GOP the Libertines are hardly sane.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:44 AM (g8Hfr)

145 I've been screaming 3rd party since the Tea Party formed. And was burned at the stake. That was the best window to do it.

Yes it was.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:44 AM (6hZFv)

146 Best way to quit smoking or anything for that matter is to replace it with something horrible

http://tinyurl.com/zvaznyo

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:45 AM (mEZce)

147 Back to the dump for a sec -

Horrible for the folks in Canada dealing w/the fire.

Not to be too conspiratorial, but one has to wonder - is the really tepid (ok, piss poor) response by officialdom a function of stupidity or is there a tinge of malice (hey, let it burn south, shutting down oil sands) in the mix?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:45 AM (C9pBZ)

148 147 Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:45 AM (C9pBZ)

Justin Pierre Trudeau has been preaching the Good News about Global Warmening....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:46 AM (g8Hfr)

149 Maybe Ryan just hates phonies and wants extra allowance this week. Or he doesn't want to mow the lawn or something. What is he, fifteen?

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 08:46 AM (/m8T6)

150 Michelle Malkin's endorsement of Ryan's challenger might sway some voters. Probably the ones that were going to vote against him anyway, is my guess. Still - can't hurt.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:46 AM (dFi94)

151 Frank looked in pretty good shape for a 110 year old man. God bless him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 06, 2016 08:47 AM (iQIUe)

152 Best way to quit smoking or anything for that matter is to replace it with something horrible"

You're a very, very, very bad person.

May the fleas of ten thousand camels infest your crotch.

Or something.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:47 AM (C9pBZ)

153 136 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:41 AM (qCMvj)

The only way to have a third party is to start immediately after an election and get the two or three largest, already extant parties to band together as one and start a campaign to sign up and maintain a solid constituency.

The other option is to get a Sanders/Nader ticket to run independently as well.

The only way our third party wins is if their third party runs as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:47 AM (p4UlV)

154 What if Trump tells Ryan that he only has time to meet and talk on a Saturday, or Sunday>

And when Ryan explains that he doesn't do weekends, Trump tells him "Fcuk you, as President, I will work weekends".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 08:47 AM (ptqRm)

155 (Paraphrased)- People are angry and one of things they're angry about is that the Federal government doesn't do the things they're supposed to do and then goes off on a tangent like this.

Phil Berger-NC Senate leader Pro Tem

Phil is correct.

Can we get him to rum for President of the US?

Can

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2016 08:48 AM (w4NZ8)

156 The smoking topic reminded me of a social experiment I did some years back, when the whole SCHIP thing was happening.

I stood outside a DC Metro station with an unlit cigar in my mouth. I mentally tallied the people who would walk by and fake an obnoxious coughing fit. Interestingly, it came more from professionally dressed women and beta-male hipsters.

Best time was a fellow who said it was a waste of a fine cigar to just keep it unlit like that....

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 06, 2016 08:48 AM (PFy0L)

157 Blue skies up above

Everyone's in love

Up the Lazy River with meeeeeee

Posted by: Zombie Hoagy Carmichael at May 06, 2016 08:48 AM (oU3Bb)

158 I hope that LOTS of people in NC are writing to Mr. Berger and giving their support.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2016 08:49 AM (w4NZ8)

159 Horrible for the folks in Canada dealing w/the fire.

Not to be too conspiratorial, but one has to wonder - is the really tepid (ok, piss poor) response by officialdom a function of stupidity or is there a tinge of malice (hey, let it burn south, shutting down oil sands) in the mix?

From what I understand, Ft. Mac is way the F up there. Out in the middle of nowhere. Lack of resources could be a big factor.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:49 AM (6hZFv)

160 My grandmother worked in the cafeteria of a mental hospital. Let's just say it wasn't a good place to be. But the answer was not closing all of them down. I don't really know what the answer should have been. Most larger hospitals have a psych unit, but I believe they are generally for acute care, not chronic on-going conditions. It's very hard to get someone committed today if they do not want to be committed themselves. And it's very costly. Many insurance carriers including Medicare only re-imburse 50%, not 80/20.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:41 AM (dFi94)

the piece I linked explains what happened (by also linking to another of it's own of the same topic):

Lucious blames Ronald Reagan for dumping the mentally ill onto the street. If he wanted to blame a president, he should have begun with JFK.

Here's the real story -- In 1963, President Kennedy proposed a program funded by the federal government that would provide community mental health centers ( CMHCs ) to take the place of state-run mental health hospitals during a speech entitled "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." For about a century, care of the mentally ill had been the states' responsibility. Kennedy's program closed many hospitals over time, known as deinstitutionalization.

The problem with JFK's plan, though, was when the state-run facilities were closed in favor of community mental health centers, the toughest cases were often overlooked in favor of less severe problems accepted by community centers. Those in most need were not treated, as they had been in state hospitals.

Also ignored in the rush to blame Reagan are the major societal and legal changes in the 1970's relating to involuntary institutionalization. From the book and movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest to the Supreme Court cases O'Connor v. Donaldson and Addington v. Texas, the focus on patient rights, abuse, and the plight of the unjustly committed transformed public perception and law, leading to the release of thousands of patients right around the time Reagan was elected president.

When Ronald Reagan came into office as President, he decided to issue block grants to states and take it out of the federal government's hands and place it back with the states. That is completely in line with Republican principles -- when possible, services should be the responsibility of the states, not the federal government. When the federal government's role was lessened under President Reagan, liberals blamed him for a lack of funding for the mentally ill. Thus, the false claim that Reagan "dumped" mentally ill people out onto the streets.

So I echo "Cookie" and ask the writers of Empire, "Why did you lie?"

newsbusters.org

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:49 AM (qCMvj)

161 Best time was a fellow who said it was a waste of a fine cigar to just keep it unlit like that...."

Hmmm.

So that was you?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:49 AM (C9pBZ)

162 150 Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 08:46 AM (dFi94)

Any excuse to have Malkin helicopter in is a good one.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 08:49 AM (g8Hfr)

163 I won't go third party. It just gives the election over to Hilldogger, and I persist in thinking a lefty scumbag like TFG2 is preferable to a lefty scumbag criminal like Hill. Of course, I would have preferred a Republican but the electorate is dumb as bricks and I have to choose between what was vomited up.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 08:50 AM (/m8T6)

164 157 Blue skies up above

Everyone's in love

Up the Lazy River with meeeeeee

Posted by: Zombie Hoagy Carmichael at May 06, 2016 08:48 AM (oU3Bb)

Oh, Hoagy. Look what's happened to our beloved America . . .

**long, sad sigh**

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:50 AM (p4UlV)

165
You're a very, very, very bad person.

May the fleas of ten thousand camels infest your crotch.

Or something.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:47 AM (C9pBZ)

A nice pic of a sunny beach on this rainy Friday. (also to make up for all the Triggly pics I've been posting this week.)

http://tinyurl.com/jbgnbef

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:50 AM (mEZce)

166 From what I understand, Ft. Mac is way the F up there. Out in the middle of nowhere. Lack of resources could be a big factor.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:49 AM (6hZFv)

I couldn't believe the town wasn't "fire threat" cleared of nearby trees.

If you look at the pictures, from what I've seen, all of the buildings were nestled between trees. No fire ordinance?

It's devastating and sad. Evidently they are now being blocked of the main road out due to the fire, and, ironically, they are running out of petrol for their cars.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:51 AM (qCMvj)

167 "121 I may be wrong, it has been a while since I read this somewhere, but IIRC the person who invented it spooned some out and ate it at one time to prove it was fine. But yeah, hippies gotta hip because endangered bugs or some such nonsense"

That was Linus Pauling. He didn't invent DDT, but he was famous for eating it. Some guy named Muller invented it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (eHpnh)

168 Heard from my mother about the swing through of coal-country made by Abuela Borracha.

That best did herself no favors trying to double-talk a bunch of coal workers whose already hard lives were made far worse by the policies she's supported.

Bernie, well, he at least treated the locals with something like respect, even if his prescriptions - clean energy jobs? wind and solar jobs for people living atop some of the largest and best reserves of coal in the world? - are typical leftist insanity.

If the Stupid party wasn't, Trump would be meeting with coal miners and treating them like people, not peasants or a PR problem. And trolling empress mommom.

Meanwhile,

The GOP is running commercials showing a bald eagle flying over a river that turns brown....with the pollution released by the EPA. And then mentions that JEF wants that eagle to die in a useless wind turbine.

The dems want to be SEEN as caring for the world, but they don't.

The dems want to be SEEN as caring for workers, but they don't.

The dems want to be SEEN as caring about an unstable world, but they don't (They are bragging about lying to get the Iran POS passed).

If the Stupid Party wasn't.....

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (326rv)

169 What will I have for lunch today? Stay tuned. I know what my opposition will have: a heaping dose of butt hurt! Put that in your taco bowl Crooked Hillary.

Posted by: TRUMP 2016 at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (gwG9s)

170 In 1963, President Kennedy proposed a program funded by the federal government that would provide community mental health centers ( CMHCs ) to take the place of state-run mental health hospitals during a speech entitled "Mental Illness and Mental Retardation." For about a century, care of the mentally ill had been the states' responsibility. Kennedy's program closed many hospitals over time, known as deinstitutionalization.

He should know. After his daddy had his sister lobotomized.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (6hZFv)

171 Man, it's been rainy and gloopy here in Hymietown for well over a week now, and the forecast into next week ain't looking so great either.

Depressing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (p4UlV)

172 Seems MO just can't help itself. Racists gonna race... or something.

I see where the MSM is all over the domestic violence SHOOTING in Nevada. No word on mundane murders in Chicago.

This type of reporting about GUN VIOLENCE will be with us until the government gets the balls to take people's guns, I'm afraid. May as well accept it.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 08:53 AM (4ng05)

173 From what I understand, Ft. Mac is way the F up there. Out in the middle of nowhere. Lack of resources could be a big factor."

It's a hike, but it's a big (pop around 100,000) area. FWIW, reports are that even Canadians are kvetching about the Government's lack of response.
When you can try those folk's patience...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:53 AM (C9pBZ)

174
Why dont the brits do a mini series on Margaret Pole? Man, what a life! From the day she was born, her family members were getting their heads lobbed off or hung, drawn, and quartered. Whack! Seize the property. Few years later, return property. Whack! Seize more property. Repeat... And when they came for her - what a mess! Took 10 whacks of an ax to kill her. Executioner kept hitting everything but her neck. And this is why we have the 8th Amendment, folks.

https://goo.gl/qP7tvo

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 06, 2016 08:53 AM (iQIUe)

175 Ryan has no leverage in this.

Eventually he has to come around or forfeit his "leadership" role. he knows it, Trump knows it.

Trump should tell him to go screw himself

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:53 AM (V/InG)

176 The only way our third party wins is if their third party runs as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:47 AM (p4UlV)

good points

I'm thinking the "populist" party of Trump would be okay.

It's the smaller "conservatives/tea party" types that would not be a strong enough force right away.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 08:53 AM (qCMvj)

177
What "U.S. officials" who revealed that Huma and others have been interrogated were briefed on the investigation? Especially since the FBI and DOJ had no comment for CNN.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (d+knu)

178 If the Stupid Party wasn't.....
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (326rv)
***
I see WV going to Sanders and Trump, in the primaries, and to Trump in the general.

It's a bastion of working-class nationalism, its many, many pathologies notwithstanding.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (lutOX)

179 "Man, it's been rainy and gloopy here in Hymietown for well over a week now, and the forecast into next week ain't looking so great either. "

11th straight day of solid overcast and rain in B'More.

Some of the more long hair dogs are beginning to develop moss.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (ptqRm)

180 165 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:50 AM (mEZce)
-----------------------------------------------

Good lord! Wow. Emily Sears is spectacular, rainy day or no.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (/m8T6)

181 Man, it's been rainy and gloopy here in Hymietown for well over a week now, and the forecast into next week ain't looking so great either.

Depressing.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (p4UlV)

Well the good news D"commie and his pals may be indicted

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (V/InG)

182 A nice pic of a sunny beach on this rainy Friday. "

Ah, a lovely beach.

All evil curses rescinded.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (C9pBZ)

183 "COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) - A new job description for the next University of Missouri System president says that whoever enters the position

I mentioned in another thread I was in Columbia last Saturday (My youngest scored "exemplary" in HS cello comp!) and that place is imploding. Their freshman enrollment is down 25%, which in and of itself is yuuuge. But it also has a depressing trough all 4 years as that class wends its way through the system. The grad school enrollment is way down too.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 06, 2016 08:55 AM (SeD0w)

184 171 Man, it's been rainy and gloopy here in Hymietown for well over a week now, and the forecast into next week ain't looking so great either.

Depressing.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:52 AM (p4UlV)

Going on two weeks with another week to go in Mordor. I frickin' hate it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:55 AM (mEZce)

185 What "U.S. officials" who revealed that Huma and others have been interrogated were briefed on the investigation? Especially since the FBI and DOJ had no comment for CNN.
Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (d+knu)

Wasn't US Officials I bet...it was clinton people trying to influence pubic opinion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:55 AM (V/InG)

186 I guess the Charlotte Observer is a leftist paper (Aren't they all?)because many people gave their comments lambasting the folks who don't want strange men in the women's bathrooms.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2016 08:55 AM (w4NZ8)

187 2016: Control Everything- History Be Damned!

Posted by: Dems at May 06, 2016 08:56 AM (Z58Xa)

188 And...

WE'RE SAVED! THE PLANET! IT'S SAVED FROM DESTRUCTION!

We can finally kill as many protected birds as we want! (as long as we do it humanely by swatting them out of the air with giant, inefficient, massively expensive, eyesore windmills.

Hail Obama - and all of the mega-millionaires and billionaires he has created in the name of saving the planet.

BTW - Pay your taxes. Billionaire budgets are tight.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 08:56 AM (4ng05)

189 Good lord! Wow. Emily Sears is spectacular, rainy day or no.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (/m8T6)

Beyond hot. And I know the horde doesn't like the tatted up kinda nutty chicks but her and her buddy DarthLux....

BRB. Bunk.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:57 AM (mEZce)

190 181 Well the good news D"commie and his pals may be indicted
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:54 AM (V/InG)

To paraphrase ole Hoagy, they sent Shelly Silver up the river for 20 years. He's 72 and his shyster mouthpiece is trying to get the sentence reduced.

I'd say let him go, if he agrees to accept the Donald Manes steak knife option. Crooked goniffing momzer.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:57 AM (p4UlV)

191 If you look at the pictures, from what I've seen, all of the buildings were nestled between trees. No fire ordinance? "

It's the modern way.

You're correct, of course - the standard method in such forests is to clear the area around construction, but around 30 years or so ago, the standards were relaxed for "green" reasons. Be one with nature and all that jazz. I guess they all thought Falling Water was a viable building plan...

It's all part of Heinlein's "Bad Luck", you see.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 08:58 AM (C9pBZ)

192 lambasting the folks who don't want strange men in the women's bathrooms.

Umm, that's Michelle...

Posted by: Georgetown at May 06, 2016 08:58 AM (Z58Xa)

193 189 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:57 AM (mEZce)

Fake boobs but a deadly ass.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:59 AM (p4UlV)

194 DL and Sears

http://tinyurl.com/hny7hyr

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:59 AM (mEZce)

195 Good morning, Morons!

There are no new polls in the RCP mix today, so everything stays where they are with Clinton leading by an average of 6.5%, and Trump stuck at 40% support where he has been for 6 weeks now.

I thought I'd offer a little analysis of that CNN/ORC poll though. One of the fun things about polls is that you can use the crosstabs to find some interesting general trends. I used two of the question results and math to determine what is motivating voters in general right now. This is a very high level view and only applies to the results of this poll, but interesting none the less.

In the general election population right now, you see the following (in order of priority):

28% of the electorate hates Trump and is voting against him
26% of the electorate is voting for leftist ideals/socialism
23% of the electorate hates Clinton and is voting against her
18% of the electorate want a wall on the border
5% of the electorate doesn't know what to do

I believe this reinforces my argument from yesterday that in order to win, Trump needs to improve his positive perceptions. Driving up Hillary's negatives is not where the votes are. There are only about 5% of the voters who could potentially be persuaded to vote against Hillary still. However, there is over a quarter of the electorate that could be persuaded to stop being an "anti Trump" vote.

I looked into the crosstabs of that 28% and they aren't all minority voters. There is a large number of white voters in that block, but they are mostly college educated and not being persuaded by the "close the border" platform. They need something else to change their opinion.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 06, 2016 08:59 AM (MKznA)

196 192 Posted by: Georgetown at May 06, 2016 08:58 AM (Z58Xa)

Q'PLAHHHHH

//Worf of Illinois

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 09:00 AM (g8Hfr)

197
I guess the Charlotte Observer is a leftist paper (Aren't they
all?)because many people gave their comments lambasting the folks who
don't want strange men in the women's bathrooms.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2016 08:55 AM (w4NZ

============================================

See - this just makes no sense to me at all. Ask any father if he wants a strange man following his young daughter into the bathroom. Girl goes into the restroom. Father hangs outside watching the cashier. Sees a guy walking into the bathroom right behind his kid. I don't think for one minute that any dad wants this. Or moms for that matter. It's insane.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 09:00 AM (dFi94)

198 Emily Sears is spectacular"

They have that at Sears?

*runs off to find local Sears*

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 09:00 AM (C9pBZ)

199 A quick search reveals that DDT is available for purchase in India.

Smuggling is always a growth industry in command economies.

Hmm...

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2016 09:00 AM (eHpnh)

200 Fake boobs but a deadly ass.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 08:59 AM (p4UlV)

As Plato stated 'What is real when reality can be something something'

Otherwords...I'll take it

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 09:00 AM (mEZce)

201 In Alberta, Fort Mac and environs burned to the ground and there's been one related death (car accident) - no international relief efforts, no celebrities in boats, nuttin'. These people, you guys, are solid people.

Posted by: registered informant at May 06, 2016 09:01 AM (oZcCE)

202 WooHooo I'm 5 for 5 on the "Irritability Test"! I am pegged on all 5 question.

Posted by: Paladin at May 06, 2016 09:02 AM (DPvCq)

203 I think HotAir had this link when I read it earlier, but Insty has it now, so

THE THIRD BIGGEST CAUSE OF DEATH IN AMERICA? Medical Errors.

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/

the story they link to

https://www.statnews.com/2016/05/03/medical-errors-death/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 09:02 AM (qCMvj)

204 "DL and Sears "

You do know that I we are not supposed to be objectifying women, right?

Ah...who am I kidding.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (ptqRm)

205 So he gender warriors in the WH are going to cut off funding to NC state schools. Why do they hate children and teachers? And won't the kids starve without the Federal lunch program?

(Narrative in the MSM you WON'T be hearing)

Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (1BQGO)

206 Smuggling is always a growth industry in command economies.

You know what was huge? Jeans. I'm not throwing any of mine away. I figure I'll be able to get a Lada someday.

Posted by: t-bird at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (Z58Xa)

207 Attention whore Paul Ryan, of the fuck the veterans first Ryan's, flexing his stringy little muscles so all true Republicans can look on him and tremble. Fuck him.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (4ng05)

208 Ben sasse should drop out the GOPe and run as a third party or independent candidate.

Has he ever opposed the turtle?

Posted by: willy at May 06, 2016 09:05 AM (Ffw22)

209 The 8th amendment is a direct result of the British punishment for treason; Hanging, drawing, and quartering. All of the founders were subject to this and they knew it. But in recent times a liberal SCOTUS has used it to do away with virtually any capitol punishment which is BS.

See the end of the Mel Gibson movie Braveheart.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 09:05 AM (vvmPQ)

210 "DL and Sears "

You do know that I we are not supposed to be objectifying women, right?

Ah...who am I kidding.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (ptqRm)

If you look at them like you want to rape them - BAAD. If you look at them like you want them to rape you - GOOD.

Subtle, yet significant.

Learn the moves. Learn the moves.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:06 AM (4ng05)

211 207 Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (4ng05)
-------------------------------------------

Look, be clearer and tell us how you really feel.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:06 AM (/m8T6)

212
Posted by: t-bird at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (Z58Xa)
***
Ahh, and it's time for the Soviet jokes to come out:

Guy goes down and gets permission, after years of trying, to buy a Lada. Goes to the dealer, and pays in full.

"Congratulations, comrade," the clerk tells him, "Your car will be delivered here inexactly five years."

"Will it be in the morning or in the afternoon?" the guy asks.

"Why should that matter?" the clerk asks.

"Well, I'm trying to schedule with a plumber...."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 09:07 AM (lutOX)

213 "If you look at them like you want them to rape you - GOOD. "

Show us on the doll where you want the bad girl to touch you....

Like that?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 09:07 AM (ptqRm)

214 208 Posted by: willy at May 06, 2016 09:05 AM (Ffw22)

Well opposing Mooch is hard....as is you know actually running in fucking primaries.

//Sassy Bennie

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 09:07 AM (g8Hfr)

215 208 Ben sasse should drop out the GOPe and run as a third party or independent candidate.

Has he ever opposed the turtle?
Posted by: willy at May 06, 2016 09:05 AM (Ffw22)

Bent Ass should shut his sanctimonious cake-hole. If he hates Trump so much, where was his endorsement of Ted Cruz (or whomever) the past few months?

Typical posturing scumbag.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2016 09:08 AM (p4UlV)

216
Wasn't US Officials I bet...it was clinton people trying to influence pubic opinion
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 08:55 AM (V/InG)
-------------------------

I was sincerely wondering. Only into my first cup of coffee. Ah, feeling more awake now . . . more cynical. Yes, of course. Clinton partisans, possibly in State, possibly in her campaign (or do I repeat myself?).

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:08 AM (d+knu)

217 Emily Sears spends a lot of her Instagram time in swimsuits.

http://tinyurl.com/jjbq42c

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:08 AM (/m8T6)

218 199 Smuggling is always a growth industry in command economies.

Hmm...

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2016 09:00 AM (eHpnh)

I read an article several years ago concerning smuggling across the Northern and Southern borders. Surprisingly the most smuggling did not involve drugs.
The most smuggling across the Northern border involve full capacity flush toilets. On the Southern border it was automobile A/C freon.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 09:09 AM (vvmPQ)

219 Please don't say "cake hole."

Posted by: Cake Girl at May 06, 2016 09:09 AM (eHpnh)

220 Look, be clearer and tell us how you really feel.
Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:06 AM (/m8T6)

That's a lot of expletives.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:09 AM (4ng05)

221 I guess the Charlotte Observer is a leftist paper (Aren't they all?)because many people gave their comments lambasting the folks who don't want strange men in the women's bathrooms.

Man recording girl in dressing room at Frisco, Texas Super Target.

http://cbsloc.al/24xsO6E

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:10 AM (6hZFv)

222 "Emily Sears spends a lot of her Instagram time in swimsuits. "

Global Warming proves that God loves us, and wants us to be happy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 09:10 AM (ptqRm)

223 215 Bent Ass should shut his sanctimonious cake-hole. If he hates Trump so much, where was his endorsement of Ted Cruz (or whomever) the past few months?

Typical posturing scumbag.
====
Exactly!

Posted by: willy at May 06, 2016 09:10 AM (Ffw22)

224 If you look at them like you want to rape them - BAAD. If you look at them like you want them to rape you - GOOD.

Subtle, yet significant.

Learn the moves. Learn the moves.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean

Or just wave a $50.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM (6hZFv)

225 My response to Ace's lede yesterday that got him to call me a fucking cunt.

Good luck with six more months of misleading and juvenile anti-Trump ledes from Ace.

Happy trails, campers. Goodbye.

Here it is complete:

"Trump himself will inevitably be demolished."
Rush thinks Trump can win in a landslide. I just think that he'll get to 300 electoral votes.

"Trump represents a very stupid and dangerous form of authoritarianism."
Michelle Fields redux.

"Many #NeverTrumpers, and I'm edging into that group myself"
I thought you didn't give a f*ck if he won or lost.(your words). Why the change?

"No, this site is showing spine -- by resisting your attempts to bend spines for Trump."
Vote for him or not. Your vote. If you don't vote you've made yourself irrelevant to the process. Your choice. If you hate Trump so much, go vote for Hillary.

"I'm very, very reluctant to vote for someone who seems to think that America needs to become a Trumpmerica Inc."
We're getting far down the road to becoming a fascist state run for the interests of the Left and Big Business, and you think Trump will make that worse, that he's the problem? Pick a better bogeyman.

You hate Trump. Just come out and say instead of being so passive-aggressive about it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM (bQxkN)

226 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM (SmRdu)

227 >>Na, that's just more FUNEMPLOYMENT in the Recovery Summer.

Saw a homeless encampment in Colorado Springs a few years ago. Someone had painted a sign: "Obamaville"

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 09:12 AM (NOIQH)

228 The Comments section on the Eagle-Chopper story is filled with environmentalist libtards. "Killing a few bald eagles is better than destroying the planet with your filthy, filty OIL!"

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:13 AM (O7MnT)

229 226 Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM (SmRdu)

Jim Carville's whoopee cushion left the GOP?

"damn"

here's the deal...if a pundit has not been flaming Mooch McDonald and the House butt thrust caucus I can give three fucks if they leave.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 09:13 AM (g8Hfr)

230 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

The Open Borders Party?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:14 AM (6hZFv)

231 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom

The asshole that married the dem operative that laughed at rap victims? Her?

Good fucking riddance. Will she take Mitch the Bitch with her?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 09:14 AM (326rv)

232 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 09:09 AM (vvmPQ)
------------------------------------------------

I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet. Not because I need one, my expensive lower capacity ones work just fine, but because I get angry as hell some EPA bureaucrat just makes this decision and I never voted on it and neither did any Congress I helped elect. Bugs me all the time.

Mr Macca Bean can say it better for me, probably.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:15 AM (/m8T6)

233 >>Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

Sounds like Californian.

(You know, the kind that votes in every crazy, socialist law and politician and then flees the state because it's become unlivable.)

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 09:15 AM (NOIQH)

234 230 Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:14 AM (6hZFv)

The "you've OBVIOUSLY been stoned or think we are to ignore you literally sleep with the enemy Mary?" party....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 09:15 AM (g8Hfr)

235 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM (SmRdu)

but she's still supporting Trump over Hillary

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 09:15 AM (qCMvj)

236 228 The Comments section on the Eagle-Chopper story is filled with environmentalist libtards. "Killing a few bald eagles is better than destroying the planet with your filthy, filty OIL!"
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:13 AM (O7MnT)

Oil comes out of the filthy, filthy planet's ground.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:15 AM (6hZFv)

237
Attention whore Paul Ryan, of the fuck the veterans first Ryan's, flexing his stringy little muscles so all true Republicans can look on him and tremble. Fuck him.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:03 AM (4ng05
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I'm beginning to think that self-righteous twerp is the David Miscavige of the Republican party.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:16 AM (d+knu)

238 You hate Trump. Just come out and say instead of being so passive-aggressive about it.

I don't want to spend the next six months arguing about how much Trump sucks. In my mind, the election is over. Barring a miracle, the next American President is going to be a Big Govt New York liberal with a short dick, and there's nothing I can do about it.

I'm just going to play with my cats, renovate my house, stock up on ammo, and watch the country burn like a Canadian wildfire.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:16 AM (O7MnT)

239 I give up. I'm going to nap for the next 8 years.

Posted by: joncelli at May 06, 2016 09:16 AM (RD7QR)

240 Preamble: I don't watch TV news or listen to radio news. The news I get, I get from here and from places links here lead me to, and other links I see on those links.

Point: I sincerely hope this country is sending all of the fire fighting resources we can to help in Canada. It's what we used to do, out of hand.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:17 AM (4ng05)

241 "I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet."

Well, get a free one. Watch for remodels with old commodes put on the curb. Mine works well.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2016 09:17 AM (eHpnh)

242 The asshole that married the dem operative that laughed at rap victims? Her?

Good fucking riddance. Will she take Mitch the Bitch with her?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 09:14 AM (326rv)

I always thought they were acting out these 2 opposing views, just for the money. I know Golem works hard for the Clinton's but they win either way, they both make money fueling each side.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 09:17 AM (qCMvj)

243 Here is the website of the guy running against Ryan. Looks like he's driving around in a dump truck that says "Dump Ryan". Also, tats and a motorcycle video of Nehlen. There's a click to contribute, if anybody wants.

http://www.paulnehlen.com/paul-ryan-betrayal

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 09:17 AM (dFi94)

244 I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet. Not because I need one, my expensive lower capacity ones work just fine

Three 1.6 gal flushes is more than one 3 gal flush.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:18 AM (6hZFv)

245 I'm beginning to think that self-righteous twerp is the David Miscavige of the Republican party.
Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:16 AM (d+knu)

Good comparison.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:18 AM (4ng05)

246 Hi! I did nothing to stop Trump from rising or wining.

I did nothing to help Cruz.

I stood there with my thumb up my ass while Romney and other GOP leaders endorsed katshitt and campaigned with him.

I did nothing when Mitch the Bitch whined about an apology.

I went along with the bullshit playacting with the Iran "treaty".

And I'm still doing nothing when it was openly bragged as being all lies.

I demand that you listen to me now, when I say, fuck our own primary system when I don't like what crawls out at the end.

Don't forget to support me. I demand it.

Posted by: Sen B. Sassy (R- For rent) at May 06, 2016 09:19 AM (326rv)

247 Not because I need one, my expensive lower capacity ones work just fine, but because I get angry as hell some EPA bureaucrat just makes this decision and I never voted on it and neither did any Congress I helped elect."

Psst. Wanna buy a working gas can?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 09:19 AM (C9pBZ)

248 Attention whore Paul Ryan, of the fuck the veterans first Ryan's, flexing his stringy little muscles so all true Republicans can look on him and tremble. Fuck him.

I keep hearing that Paul Ryan is "the most conservative House Speaker in history" but all I've seen from him "How can I help Obama today?"

He's like the Clippy of the US House of Representatives. "It looks like you're trying to increase funding for Planned Parenthood. Would you like help?"

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:19 AM (O7MnT)

249 Bald eagles are predators and very much a symbol of racist, right-wing war loving America. Not very huggable. Unlike, say, whales. It's OK of they killed by Gaia-friendly windmills.

Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2016 09:19 AM (1BQGO)

250 >>"Killing a few bald eagles is better than destroying the planet with your filthy, filty OIL!"

Oh, really? The we'll resume construction on every parcel of land in which that one species of owl was used to shut 'em down.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 09:19 AM (NOIQH)

251 Posted by: Ignoramus at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM

Sorry, none of that came across to me as the least bit persuasive.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 06, 2016 09:20 AM (PFy0L)

252
Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

The Open Borders Party?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:14 AM (6hZFv)
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The Libertarian Moment has arrived!

Next step: a fist-fight as Libertarians and GOPers cross over all over the place, and finally a third party emerges -- no, make that a fourth party -- oh, never mind.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:20 AM (d+knu)

253 it's 6:18 am....my cell phone is across the room....it's rings.....unusual for the time.....i can't get to it......i hurt my back yesterday doing stupid things....it's a missed call from my 86 year old mom.....i call right back....she answers surprised i'm calling her so early in the morning.....she's on her way to daily Mass.....dialed me when digging through her purse for her car keys......out of the five.....i must be her favorite......

...i think i'll tell them all later today..... lol......sibling rivalry never dies......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 06, 2016 09:20 AM (0O7c5)

254 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM (SmRdu)

I do too. I just wonder how good a fit they will be with the Libertarians. It could be actually funny to imagine how well things go if the refugees go into lecture mode in their new home.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet is Sense and Censorship Free! at May 06, 2016 09:20 AM (hLRSq)

255 I'm thinking that when the weather clears I'm going to buy some land, lay in some supplies and sit try to ignore federal authority for the next couple of decades. My hope is they'll treat me the same and ignore me.

Hopefully my Kindle will still work and my Bushmills supply will hold out. I know for a fact I'll have enough canines. Those I don't seem to run short of, thanks to my spousal unit.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:20 AM (/m8T6)

256 You hate Trump. Just come out and say instead of being so passive-aggressive about it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 06, 2016 09:11 AM (bQxkN)

Ace calls it as he sees it.

Politics is fluid, and with Trump, new sh*t comes out of his mouth every day. New revelations, just like in any campaign, you can evolve on your thoughts of a candidate over time after they are more known to you.

If one keeps an open mind, one can evolve to new thinking.

I do not get the vitriol thrown at Ace because of this. It's an emotional ride, not just watching what is happening to the country, but to the parties, and picking a candidate is personal, yes, but it can also change.

/shrug - the flame throwing is over the top too often

The sun is out here, time to enjoy the day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 09:21 AM (qCMvj)

257 Mr Macca Bean can say it better for me, probably.
Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:15 AM (/m8T6)

Pro Tip: Say 'fuck' a lot.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:22 AM (4ng05)

258 243 Here is the website of the guy running against Ryan. Looks like he's driving around in a dump truck that says "Dump Ryan". Also, tats and a motorcycle video of Nehlen. There's a click to contribute, if anybody wants.

http://www.paulnehlen.com/paul-ryan-betrayal
====

His ad is awesome. Like the Molon Labe tatt.

Posted by: willy at May 06, 2016 09:22 AM (Ffw22)

259 I demand that you listen to me now, when I say, fuck our own primary system when I don't like what crawls out at the end.

I guess he didn't sign that pledge.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:23 AM (mL2BD)

260 Black blood of the earth.

You mean oil?

I mean black blood of the earth.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 09:23 AM (mEZce)

261 Question: If Nehlen does unseat Ryan, who would become Speaker?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 09:24 AM (dFi94)

262 "I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet."

Heh

Posted by: Standard capacity magazines at May 06, 2016 09:24 AM (ptqRm)

263 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

The open borders, pro-drug, pro-abortion party...because principles.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:24 AM (mL2BD)

264 >>"I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet."

And regular lightbulbs.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 09:25 AM (NOIQH)

265 I think the grass seed I laid out last Sunday is drowning out there.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:25 AM (/m8T6)

266 Coal Miners Daughter is my favorite movie of all time! That's the Lord Gods truth. Can I get me a deer huntin' license here? Got any moonshine? I like 'shine. Mountain Dew?

Posted by: Hillary 2016 at May 06, 2016 09:26 AM (gwG9s)

267 246 Hi! I did nothing to stop Trump from rising or wining.

I did nothing to help Cruz.

I stood there with my thumb up my ass while Romney and other GOP leaders endorsed katshitt and campaigned with him.

I did nothing when Mitch the Bitch whined about an apology.

I went along with the bullshit playacting with the Iran "treaty".

And I'm still doing nothing when it was openly bragged as being all lies.

I demand that you listen to me now, when I say, fuck our own primary system when I don't like what crawls out at the end.

Don't forget to support me. I demand it.

====

You've served us well. We have lots of cash to skim form our campaign pac's to place into your special slush fund for fattening your portfolio, BTW stop by the cocktail party later..we have some good insider trading advice based on legislation we're passing..

Posted by: Mitch mcConnell's blank stare at May 06, 2016 09:26 AM (Ffw22)

268 "I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet."

And regular lightbulbs.

And R 12 Freon.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:27 AM (6hZFv)

269 'Generally I haven't been doing stunts, but here you go,' Obama told the media before drinking from a glass.
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I hate this lying posturing motherfucker so much.

*goes back to snuggling Sears and Lux in my mind

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 09:28 AM (mEZce)

270 I going to miss Hillary. When she's gone. Which is hopefully soon (Mr. Comey, please pick up the white courtesy phone. Call for Mr. Comey!).

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:28 AM (/m8T6)

271 I just wonder if the Template is set and all future elections are going to be as Idiocratic as this one. "We don't want your 'smart' guys with their 'ideas' and 'knowledge.' We want the loud guy who calls the other guys names and insults their wives; because he's angry and I'm angry, and so I know he's on my side."

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (O7MnT)

272 I do too. I just wonder how good a fit they will be
with the Libertarians. It could be actually funny to imagine how well
things go if the refugees go into lecture mode in their new home. Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet is Sense and Censorship Free! at May 06, 2016 09:20 AM (hLRSq)
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I remember in '76 when Reagan brought the Libertarians into the R party. Young, idealistic, classical liberals with enough commonsense to find space within the R party to get some of their ideas some air and direction. I really think that their input gave the R party some life as they spiraled down into Rockefeller NYC types.

Bless their hearts (not ironically), they have managed to keep some organization and structure to offer some alternative to the corporatists. If enough new blood goes into that wild-eyed group, maybe they will pull their socks up again and work rather than the open-borders idiocy.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (MIKMs)

273
I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet."

And regular lightbulbs.

And R 12 Freon.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:27 AM (6hZFv)
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And dishwasher detergent with phosphates.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (d+knu)

274 You old people have it rough

Posted by: Teens getting abortions at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (ptqRm)

275 And regular lightbulbs.
==================================

I stockpiled so many regular light bulbs a few years back, I could open a lighting store. I'll never use them up in my lifetime. I'll have to put them in the will.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (dFi94)

276 'Generally I haven't been doing stunts, but here you go,' Obama told the media before drinking from a glass.

I think that was his college major, wasn't it?

Got a strong 'B+'.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (mL2BD)

277 146 Best way to quit smoking or anything for that matter is to replace it with something horrible

http://tinyurl.com/zvaznyo
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 08:45 AM (mEZce)

You really need to get out of the house more often

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 06, 2016 09:30 AM (voOPb)

278 FDA takes significant steps to protect Americans from dangers of tobacco through new regulation
Rule extending oversight to all tobacco
products, including e-cigarettes, allows agency to address public health
concerns such as youth access to tobacco products
Orwell could not have written it better!"protect Americans from" = prevent them from enjoying a legal substance in a form that *doesn't* put bystanders at risk of second-hand smoke (tool used to banish cigarettes)
"Rule extending" = overreach"youth access to tobacco" = for the children!!
I've never smoked, but the way they've demonized and harassed smokers is ridiculous. Especially when they're also working hard to legalize pot.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 09:30 AM (NOIQH)

279 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

If we've got two-thirds of the parties...#WINNING!

Posted by: The GOPe at May 06, 2016 09:30 AM (Z58Xa)

280 If the Libertarian Party found a way to support national borders, they could become a real force.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2016 09:31 AM (eHpnh)

281 And dishwasher detergent with phosphates.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (d+knu)

Buy TSP from amazon. It works wonders.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 09:31 AM (mEZce)

282 "The open borders, pro-drug, pro-abortion party...because principles."

Those would be the GOP "principles" that have given us Ryan, McConnell, and Trump?

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 09:31 AM (SmRdu)

283 'Generally I haven't been doing stunts, but here you go,' Obama told the media before drinking from a glass.

Did the Teleprompter continue speaking? Nice trick.

Posted by: t-bird at May 06, 2016 09:31 AM (Z58Xa)

284 You can't buy spray paint in Chicago.

Posted by: Michael at May 06, 2016 09:32 AM (KClXw)

285 Just remember, for all the Ryan hate, he is the guy you are going to be depending on next year to stop Clinton's policy proposals.

I'm betting amnesty will be in the first 100 days.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 06, 2016 09:32 AM (MKznA)

286 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

If we've got two-thirds of the parties...#WINNING!
Posted by: The GOPe at May 06, 2016 09:30 AM (Z58Xa)

Ya mean the Mary Matalin that married a lizard?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:33 AM (V/InG)

287 "And dishwasher detergent with phosphates."

Buy TSP in the big-box store's paint department. Add it to your detergent. A little goes a long way.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 06, 2016 09:33 AM (eHpnh)

288 The Labor Department reported today that the part time jobs in "retail", ie McDonalds, the Exxon station and the Dollar Store, that have carried the economy in the last year or more are also going away.

But, no worries! The labor pool has mysteriously "shrunk", "diminished", and "fewer people are seeking work". "Whew!", says Hillary's campaign, "that's lucky".

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:33 AM (/m8T6)

289 I don't have cable TV, but I was at my sister's house this weekend and there was a show on that was something like, "World's Stupidest Rednecks." (That's not literally what is was called, but it was something like that.) And it was basically nothing but home videos of country folks doing stupid stunts that ended in bodily injury. Like dragging a kayak behind a pickup truck until it slammed into a pile of wood, or putting a shock collar on a drunk guy and shocking him until he passed out. And I was like, "How is this different that 'Ow! My balls!"

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:33 AM (O7MnT)

290 "Did the Teleprompter continue speaking? Nice trick."

A good ventriloquist never makes the dummy talk when it's mouth is full.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 09:33 AM (ptqRm)

291 I just wonder if the Template is set and all future elections are going to be as Idiocratic as this one. "We don't want your 'smart' guys with their 'ideas' and 'knowledge.' We want the loud guy who calls the other guys names and insults their wives; because he's angry and I'm angry, and so I know he's on my side."

No, they will involve front runners begging for applause and lying to us in Spanish. Cause that's what the 'smart' guys with 'ideas' do.

That and fuck up their message by listening to hacks and pander to amnesty, thus negating their record running a purple state.

If ya don't like that, we have a load of Katshitt.

Posted by: GOPe at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (326rv)

292 268 And R 12 Freon.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:27 AM (6hZFv)

And just think, they are about to ban the current freon which leaves nothing but the old throwback to poisonous ammonia gas they used to use in refrigeration devices before freon. And it isn't as good as freon for cooling.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (vvmPQ)

293 I didn't sell out - I bought in

Hostile Takeover of the new ReTrumplican Party 2016 - ????

Posted by: Trump Train at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (10hEu)

294 WE HATE YOU MORE EVERYDAY.

Posted by: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY at May 06, 2016 09:31 AM (XzRw1)

It's for The Children.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet is Sense and Censorship Free! at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (hLRSq)

295 [i
Those would be the GOP "principles" that have given us Ryan, McConnell, and Trump?

Is Matalin leaving the GOP because of the GOP, or just because of Trump? Because there are a raftload of Libertarian ideas and GOP failures that would have led her to leave the party a decade ago if it was about principles.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (mL2BD)

296 'Can I get some water?' Obama said, drawing applause from the crowd. 'Come on up here. Give me some water. I want a glass of water... Let's make sure we find one. It will be filtered.'

After a few minutes passed, aides brought Obama a glass of water.

'Now, the reason I know I'm okay is because I already had some Flint water,' the president said after taking a sip. 'There we go. I really did need a glass of water. This is not a stunt.'
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*steps back from keyboard

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (mEZce)

297 "And I was like, "How is this different that 'Ow! My balls!"

You have never watched "Hey Jackass" have you?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (ptqRm)

298 "The open borders, pro-drug, pro-abortion party...because principles."

Also known as the "No welfare, no pointless foreign wars, no crony capitalism, Government-leaves-you-alone party."

It's a decent tradeoff.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:35 AM (O7MnT)

299 Americans have become allergic to hard work. We think there's a silver bullet crowd-sourcing big data mobile app solution to every problem.

Until this problem is rectified we'll keep going in this circle of lethargy > despair & self-loathing > false hope > crushing failure > recrimination and vitriol > lethargy

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 09:35 AM (xuouz)

300 You can get cascade dishwasher detergent with phosphates online but it is expensive. I just ordered some last month for about $12 per box.

Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 09:35 AM (4bHkw)

301 262 "I readily admit it pisses me off that I can't buy a full capacity flush toilet."

you can still find one at a salvage yard. luckily my house came with a 1929 Standard Moderno which I'm taking with me if I ever move.

/my cold dead cheeks

Posted by: x at May 06, 2016 09:36 AM (nFwvY)

302 We all know about the #NeverTrump folks, but did you know some Bernard Believers have set up a #wontvotehillary site?
It's true, it's true. It has a loooong list of reasons for not voting for her. It even has over 58K that have signed the pledge, far surpassing the 36K that signed the #Nevertrump. Check it out if you're shy of laughs.

Posted by: Hank at May 06, 2016 09:36 AM (E1yZq)

303 *steps back from keyboard
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 09:34 AM (mEZce)

If I thought it would effect any positive outcome, and not just give the longmarch left its ultimate martyr, I would have gone down to Washington DC and mushroom stamped this jug-eared fuck to death five years ago.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 09:37 AM (xuouz)

304 "Is Matalin leaving the GOP because of the GOP, or just because of Trump?"

She says it's not because of Trump, though the timing is obviously suspicious.

Even if it was, there's such a thing as a last straw, and Trump is going to be it for a lot of people.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 09:37 AM (SmRdu)

305 265 I think the grass seed I laid out last Sunday is drowning out there.
-----------------------------------------------

Wait! I just remembered; that wasn't me who put out all that grass seed. It was the government, because without the government that grass seed wouldn't exist and it would never have made it from my garage to the yard.

Another failed government program.

And the rain is global warming, so more authority to Washington!

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:37 AM (/m8T6)

306 Having don't a lot of A/C work on cars - R12 Freon was great and its replacements are never as good unless in a compressor set up just for R134. Doing a R12 to R134 conversion to use R134 in a R12 compressor never gets as cold or works as well as the original. It usually has a slow leak.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 09:37 AM (10hEu)

307 298
"The open borders, pro-drug, pro-abortion party...because principles."

Also known as the "No welfare, no pointless foreign wars, no crony capitalism, Government-leaves-you-alone party."

It's a decent tradeoff.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:35 AM (O7MnT)
I would agree. I don't like everything in the Libertarian Party, but then again I didn't like everything in the Republican Party either (back when it was still sane). But their *priorities* roughly align with mine, i.e., getting the government off people's backs.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:38 AM (dpnZC)

308 Just remember, for all the Ryan hate, he is the guy you are going to be depending on next year to stop Clinton's policy proposals.

I'm betting amnesty will be in the first 100 days.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Speak for yourself.

I'm not depending upon that lying sack of shit to do anything on our behalf.

Take a wild guess as to why. And no, it isn't for the infantile "Ryan hate" smear.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 09:38 AM (326rv)

309 "We don't want your 'smart' guys with their 'ideas'
anPosted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:29 AM (O7MnT) d 'knowledge.'

Actually, the people who end up president aren't the ones who come up with the ideas.

That's not their job. There are smart people out there who conceive of the policies, game out the scenarios and fill in the fine print.

Then, it's up to a leader to make it happen.

A leader is someone who can put a vision across to a wide variety of people and get them to buy into it. They do this by being positive, self-assured and confident.

Also, a leader is someone that the people who work for him can count on. Great ideas, ideas that change a country and matter, aren't generated by people who are covering their ass. If you have a leader who has a record of throwing his people under a bus at the first twinge of trouble, nobody is going to go out on a limb.

You can have your weak wrist, even keeled, politically correct career politician. Give me the person with a proven record of accomplishing real things.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 09:38 AM (Zs4uk)

310 "I miss full flush toilets"

Ditto. The lo flush toilets have to be flushed 3 or 3 times using more water than the older ones. To libtards that's winning.

Ohhh look we're saving the planet!

Posted by: willy at May 06, 2016 09:39 AM (Ffw22)

311 Obama DOJ trying to "Loretta Lynch" North Carolina

Posted by: Sandy Burger at May 06, 2016 09:39 AM (e8kgV)

312 The late mayor of Toledo showed off how well their water plant had recovered by publicly quaffing a tall glass of city water. "Here's to ya, Toledo!" he grinned.

Two months later he died of a mysterious sudden-onset massive heart attack while driving a city car. Found by passers-by.

Not saying. Just saying. And, you don't want that. Remember Johnson.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 06, 2016 09:39 AM (tIja6)

313
Even if it was, there's such a thing as a last straw, and Trump is going to be it for a lot of people.

I'd say that all the other stuff is the failure of the party. Doing it because of Trump is blaming the voters. It's two different things-- one is actually even a reaction to the other.

Trump isn't when the GOP lost its principles-- it's a result of it.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:40 AM (mL2BD)

314
You can get cascade dishwasher detergent with phosphates online but it is expensive. I just ordered some last month for about $12 per box.
Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 09:35 AM (4bHkw)
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WHOA. I had seen that stuff on Amazon, but then it went away. Where, where, where?

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:40 AM (d+knu)

315 May I say something positive about Bernie Sanders without getting flamed?

Bernie Sanders's only virtue, IMHO, is his honest admission that taxes have to be raised in order for the Government to spend more.

It's very much different than Hillary, who thinks you can raise taxes a little and then spend a lot. Or Republicans like George W. Bush who cut taxes while massively increasing domestic spending AND creating a whole new, completely unfunded, prescription drug entitlement.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:40 AM (O7MnT)

316 Ignoramus, I was sorry to see that go down, you are not a c-unit and he didn't mean that. Imagine how nastily you and I would be lashing out if the situation were reversed. It's a result of extreme political angst and has nothing to do with you. You just happened to be at hand while ace was feeling particularly noxious.

If nothing else, you now have a hilariously lofty piece of moral high ground.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 09:40 AM (xuouz)

317 I going to miss Hillary. When she's gone. Which is
hopefully soon (Mr. Comey, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Call for Mr. Comey!).

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:28 AM

Forget it, guy. I ain't touchin' her.

Posted by: A Mr. Death, here about the reaping at May 06, 2016 09:41 AM (bzd8I)

318 Upset because the Nanny State has removed phosphates from your dish and laundry detergent? Never fear. Head on down to your local hardware or paint Store and pick up a box of TSP. A quarter teaspoon in with a load of laundry or dishes and you're back in the land of clean. Cheap too.

Posted by: Hank at May 06, 2016 09:41 AM (E1yZq)

319 Point: I sincerely hope this country is sending all of the fire fighting resources we can to help in Canada. It's what we used to do, out of hand.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:17 AM (4ng05)

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It's the state and local fire depts that send help if they want it and I am sure they do.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 06, 2016 09:42 AM (iQIUe)

320 Tim Cook is headed over to Beijing to get his instructions for the rest of 2016, Yahoo is reporting. You may have seen that China is mad at Apple, probably over encryption, and instead of making a federal case over it Cook is hightailing over there to make peace before it starts costing Apple in an even bigger way.

I honestly would not want that job. Having to kow tow to tyrants all the time is hard enough here, much less traveling around the world to do it.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:42 AM (/m8T6)

321 314
You can get cascade dishwasher detergent with phosphates online but it is expensive. I just ordered some last month for about $12 per box.
Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 09:35 AM (4bHkw)
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WHOA. I had seen that stuff on Amazon, but then it went away. Where, where, where?
Posted by: iforgot

or you can just get some TSP at home depot and bring regular dw detergent back up to code.

Posted by: x at May 06, 2016 09:42 AM (nFwvY)

322 I don't like everything in the Libertarian Party, but then again I didn't like everything in the Republican Party either

I would be hard-pressed to identify what the Republican Party stands for these days beyond Amnesty, Foreign Intervention, and Cronyism.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:42 AM (O7MnT)

323 Trump isn't when the GOP lost its principles-- it's a result of it.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:40 AM (mL2BD)
The Trump phenomenon revealed to people like me that there just aren't that many conservatives in the Republican Party. So why should actual conservatives stick around any longer?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:43 AM (dpnZC)

324 Mary Matalin has switched to the Libertarian Party.

I expect to see a lot of that in the coming months.

This is sort of the libtards new talking point-

as I heard on the radio talk shows (while driving into work in traffic jammed crapola for an hour-GRRRRR)

the Hillary! supporters are now saying they want an election with 3-4 people running (mentioned always Hillary!, Trump, Sanders, Cruz) for Prez.

The Dims know Hillary! only appeals to the Dim hard-core insane breaking things up would get her into office.

Their model? The election of Salvador Allende!

A 3way split got Allende elected with roughly 34% of the vote.(it was in the 30%s - going by memory).

So, yes. Expect GOPe types and Dims to be pushing 3rd party esp. Libertarian.

The birth of a new "Fuck the middle class meme" and you were there!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2016 09:43 AM (0cMkb)

325
Just remember, for all the Ryan hate, he is the guy you are going to be depending on next year to stop Clinton's policy proposals.

I'm betting amnesty will be in the first 100 days.

Posted by: Dave in Fla
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I don't know how many levels of irony you've applied here, so pardon my obtuseness. Of course there will be amnesty within the first 100 days under Clinton/Ryan, with grins and handshakes all around.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:43 AM (d+knu)

326 If only we had a way to stop Hillary Clinton from being elected.

*wracks brain*

No. No it's too ridiculous. There's literally (LITERALLY!) nothing we can do.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 09:43 AM (xuouz)

327 300 "You can get cascade dishwasher detergent with phosphates online but it is expensive. I just ordered some last month for about $12 per box."

The last one I saw was about $58 per box.

I've got a distributor in Mexico who sends me what I need, but I recently found out you can buy it off the shelf at restaurant supply stores.

Ask for Cascades Fryer Boil Out. (about $7/box)

Exactly the same formula as old Cascades with Phosphates.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 09:43 AM (Zs4uk)

328 he open borders, pro-drug, pro-abortion party...because principles."

Also known as the "No welfare, no pointless foreign wars, no crony capitalism, Government-leaves-you-alone party."

The second line certainly proves the "pro-drugs" part.

That whole "open borders" AND no" pointless foreign wars" gag does it for me.

If we had bothered to actually maintain border controls and immigration laws the 9/11 attacks might not have ocurred......Which kinda led to...ya know.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 09:43 AM (326rv)

329 You know: They actually have bird friendly windmills. But they aren't promoted because (I believe in my weak conspiratorial mind) because the people who push the gigantic eyesores springing up like forests all over the country, don't want them.

I'm all for saving the planet. I'm all for renewable energy. I'm not all for the government helping to choose and subsidize the most inefficient forms of conservation and renewables so their friends and families can make billions, while we are being force fed a load of horseshit.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:44 AM (4ng05)

330 The Trump phenomenon revealed to people like me that there just aren't that many conservatives in the Republican Party. So why should actual conservatives stick around any longer?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:43 AM (dpnZC)

Capital-L libertarians are useless as a legless dog, but they do have one incredible skill.

They can split hairs down to a molecular level.

This skill is also useless. Doesn't make it any less breathtaking and strangely beautiful to see in action.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 09:44 AM (xuouz)

331 >>>307
"The open borders, pro-drug, pro-abortion party...because principles."

Also known as the "No welfare, no pointless foreign wars, no crony capitalism, Government-leaves-you-alone party."

It's a decent tradeoff.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:35 AM (O7MnT)
I would agree. I don't like everything in the Libertarian Party, but then again I didn't like everything in the Republican Party either (back when it was still sane). But their *priorities* roughly align with mine, i.e., getting the government off people's backs.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:38 AM (dpnZC)

_______________

The problem is that virtually all the people that will pour through your open borders will not agree with your "get the government off my back no welfare" principals. You will have your libertarian utopia for a very short time.

Worldwide, libertarian is it is a tiny-tiny minority opinion. You need Trumpian borders or you will be overwhelmed.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 09:45 AM (10hEu)

332
or you can just get some TSP at home depot and bring regular dw detergent back up to code.
Posted by: x at May 06, 2016 09:42 AM (nFwvY)
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Hah! The new Breaking Bad.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:45 AM (d+knu)

333 I loved people who call themselves "actual" conservatives who are content helping hillary into the White House.

LMAO and spitting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:45 AM (V/InG)

334 The bag banners never mention the manufacturers already fixed the plastic so they're bio-degradable.

Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2016 09:46 AM (DL2i+)

335
A 3way split got Allende elected with roughly 34% of the vote.(it was in the 30%s - going by memory).

But the Electoral College isn't won with a plurality.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:47 AM (mL2BD)

336 The Trump phenomenon revealed to people like me that there just aren't that many conservatives in the Republican Party. So why should actual conservatives stick around any longer?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian

The Katshit show was one of those "nails in the coffin". As was the Sen. Cokebear saga. Which we're now seeing repeated by Sen Sassy.

You seriously needed the donald to make you realize that things aren't spiffing? The last few budgets didn't clue you in?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 09:47 AM (326rv)

337 Even if it was, there's such a thing as a last straw, and Trump is going to be it for a lot of people.

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 09:37 AM (SmRdu)

I won't disagree with that, but your statement acknowledges that there have been many, many, straws before Trump.

Ponder the myriad number of things the GOP could have done differently that would have precluded a Trump gaining traction.
The horde over the years has listed hundreds, maybe thousands.

He may be the last straw.
But don't blame him for a party praying against one more straw.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 06, 2016 09:47 AM (kKHcp)

338 By the way, did anyone go to Rifftrax Live: Time Chasers Last Night. Because it was frackin' hilarious?

Evil Corporate Guy: "You let them get away! Dammit! I have a building full of people, and I need you to take them out!"

Riff: "Take out a building full of people... yes, sir."

(Dim blond female lead is in supermarket produce section, holding up a bag of carrots.)

Riff: "She's reading the instructions for 'carrots.'

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:47 AM (O7MnT)

339

Hey

Jon Benet Ramsey case? Little pagent girl murdered in her hoe in CO?

remember that? Do you remember that years and years later some LOON SEX OFFENDER confessed to her murder

but he was excluded by DNA

guess hwat he is up to

LOON CHILD SEX OFFENDER IS NOW LIVING AS A WOMAN

yes living as a woman

using the women bathrooms

and he has a thing for little girls and once confessed to killing a little girl

NO THEY ARENT MENTALLY ILL AT ALL PERFECTLY NORMAL NOTHING TO SEE HERE YES COME USE THE LADIES BATHROOM

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 09:48 AM (zOTsN)

340 334 The bag banners never mention the manufacturers already fixed the plastic so they're bio-degradable.
Posted by: DaveA

to be fair, in most cases they are border line retards. looking at you Dwayne Carraway.

Posted by: x at May 06, 2016 09:48 AM (nFwvY)

341 The Trump phenomenon revealed to people like me that there just aren't that many conservatives in the Republican Party.
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How exactly was that "revealed" to you cj? So few people vote in primaries to begin with that, especially in a widely splintered field where votes are spread between more than two candidates for nearly all the race, a motivated group of very confused but passionate voters can easily win.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:48 AM (/m8T6)

342 Trumpian borders

When I read this phrase, what I see is "irrationally demagoguing and overstating the threat due to illegals so as to justify a massive government works project that doesn't even address the major source of illegal immigration (visa overstays) but does give his base a set of good feelz".

How about instead of "Trumpian borders", we have sane, rational border security that addresses all of the problems associated with illegal immigration?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:48 AM (dpnZC)

343 I loved people who call themselves "actual" conservatives who are content helping hillary into the White House.

Good point. If you aren't voting for Gary Johnson, you're helping Hillary into the White House.

See how that works?

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (O7MnT)

344
In the late 90s I was attracted to Libertarianism. However, when I read or heard what their candidates said - no way! They are a bunch of fruitcakes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (iQIUe)

345 Libertarian Party Platform 3.4

http://www.lp.org/platform

For those that don't believe they are for unfettered access crossing borders.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (6hZFv)

346 I honestly would not want that job. Having to kow tow to tyrants all the time is hard enough here, much less traveling around the world to do it.
Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 09:42 AM (/m8T6)

I made this declaration a long time ago - that I will not own another Apple product as long as that prick is heading the company.

And, I like to add, I dumped service on my old iPhone a long time ago now, and I like my life a lot better now. No cell phone. It's... liberating. Like walking aroung the back yard naked.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (4ng05)

347 restockit dot com. Cascade with phosphates. Fryer boil out version. Six boxes for about $70 plus shipping. I've not had much luck with just adding tsp to store bought cascade. Ruined a lot of dishes.

Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (4bHkw)

348 A 3way split got Allende elected with roughly 34% of the vote.(it was in the 30%s - going by memory).

But the Electoral College isn't won with a plurality.
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:47 AM (mL2BD)

exactly.

This allows Our Betters to pretend to struggle then give us Hillary! with 30mumblemumble% of the vote.

Yay!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2016 09:50 AM (0cMkb)

349 I loved people who call themselves "actual" conservatives who are content helping hillary into the White House.

If Trumpkins cared about keeping Hillary out of the White House, they wouldn't have nominated a guy with Kim Kardashian's qualifications and Martin Shkreli's approval ratings.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:50 AM (O7MnT)

350 Good point. If you aren't voting for Gary Johnson, you're helping Hillary into the White House.

See how that works?
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (O7MnT)

I see how things work in the real world, not in fantasy land

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:50 AM (V/InG)

351
How about instead of "Trumpian borders", we have sane, rational border security that addresses all of the problems associated with illegal immigration?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:48 AM (dpnZC)
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Sounds good to me. Where do you think you're going to get it?

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:50 AM (d+knu)

352 The Katshit show was one of those "nails in the
coffin". As was the Sen. Cokebear saga. Which we're now seeing repeated
by Sen Sassy.

You seriously needed the donald to make you realize that things aren't spiffing? The last few budgets didn't clue you in?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 09:47 AM (326rv)
I am referring to Republican VOTERS. I always knew that Republican voters were a diverse lot. But I didn't realize how small of a minority actual conservatives were in that diverse mix.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:51 AM (dpnZC)

353
If Trumpkins cared about keeping Hillary out of the White House, they wouldn't have nominated a guy with Kim Kardashian's qualifications and Martin Shkreli's approval ratings.
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:50 AM (O7MnT)

A) Keep insulting 50% of the Party, that's a winning strategy
B) Many of us never support Trump for the nomination but we have no intention of helping hillary into the white house now that the outcome is clear

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:52 AM (V/InG)

354 Good point. If you aren't voting for Gary Johnson, you're helping Hillary into the White House.

See how that works?

Bullshit.

And I should know.

Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 09:52 AM (326rv)

355 "I don't know how many levels of irony you've applied here, so pardon my obtuseness"

Sarcasm, lots of it.

But there is truth in it as well. He's going to be our "bastion" against her policies. And on some of our priorities (like amnesty)? The buck won't even slow down as everyone rushes to sign on to "reform".

By this time next year, we will be looking longingly toward the Bush reforms that we all pitched a fit over 10 years ago.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (MKznA)

356 But I didn't realize how small of a minority actual conservatives were in that diverse mix.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:51 AM (dpnZC)

So you get to define "Conservative" ha?
And you have numbers to back that statement I am sure?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (V/InG)

357 The Trump phenomenon revealed to people like me that there just aren't that many conservatives in the Republican Party.

Mostly due to the efforts of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (mL2BD)

358
I loved people who call themselves "actual" conservatives who are content helping hillary into the White House.

Good point. If you aren't voting for Gary Johnson, you're helping Hillary into the White House.

See how that works?

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (O7MnT)
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There really is a good argument to be made that HC is the epitome of 'conservative' in that she and her positions and methods are known quantities. The epithet 'conservative' is meaningless.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (MIKMs)

359 Sounds good to me. Where do you think you're going to get it?

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:50 AM (d+knu)
We're not going to get it from a politician who will go down in flames after his over-the-top rhetoric is denounced and rejected as racist xenophobic scapegoating.
But any politician in the Republican Party who DOESN'T wildly overstate the problems of illegal immigration will not win the Republican primary, because that is what Republican voters evidently want to hear.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (dpnZC)

360 So...they've cast the lead for the young Han Solo movie: Alden Enrenreich.
Eh.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 09:54 AM (NOIQH)

361 I've not had much luck with just adding tsp to store bought cascade. Ruined a lot of dishes.

Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 09:49 AM (4bHkw)

Right. That's the problem with TSP. If you don't get the exact amount, it will etch your dishes and glassware.

I checked with the manufacturer, and the Cascades with Phosphates sold all around the world (except in the U.S.) and the Fryer Boil Out (sold in the U.S.) is the same thing, same box, different label.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (Zs4uk)

362 Keep insulting 50% of the Party, that's a winning strategy

Bullshit! I am not insulting 50% of the Party.

Much closer to 80%, (40% Trumpkins, 40% Establishment cocksucking DIABLOS)

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (O7MnT)

363 I took early retirement this year. Mainly because I am afraid of what TFG will do before he leaves office and what the Hag will do if she wins. I wanted my money out of my 401k before they seize it. Would appreciate input in regards to ideas about what to do with it. I have a good supply of the usual suspects - metals of various sorts and food/water and plan to add to that stockpile. But what about actually hiding/stashing $$. I worry about if the house burns down. Any ideas? Or good websites?

Posted by: cfomahm at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (RfzVr)

364 You seriously needed the donald to make you realize that things aren't spiffing? The last few budgets didn't clue you in?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 06, 2016 09:47 AM (326rv)
I am referring to Republican VOTERS. I always knew that Republican voters were a diverse lot. But I didn't realize how small of a minority actual conservatives were in that diverse mix.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian

Yeah, because the problem is the voters, not the Party that told the voters to fuck themselves.

Not the party that ran shitty front runners.

Not the party that supported katshit, and gave tepid support to Cruz.
Thus all the crap that went on before pales in relation to the donald.

Got it.

Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (326rv)

365 Keep insulting 50% of the Party, that's a winning strategy

I insult 100% of the Democrat Party on a daily basis, so insulting 50% of the Republican Party is them getting off easy.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:56 AM (dpnZC)

366 >>The Trump phenomenon revealed to people like me that there just aren't that many conservatives in the Republican Party.

Think our GOP majority House and Senate revealed that long before Trump decided to run.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 09:56 AM (NOIQH)

367
He's going to be our "bastion" against her policies. And on some of our priorities (like amnesty)? The buck won't even slow down as everyone rushes to sign on to "reform".
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Okay, yeah, then we're on the same page, except that I disagree about the outcome of this election.

I think Hillary is not going to be the nominee and we have more to fear from Joe Biden, who will go on t.v. and chokingly recount his sacred promise to Beau.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:56 AM (d+knu)

368
With all the bigotry in the Labour Party, I cant believe they elected a Muslim Labourite who is on record for making antisemitic remarks.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 06, 2016 09:56 AM (iQIUe)

369
Bullshit! I am not insulting 50% of the Party.

Much closer to 80%, (40% Trumpkins, 40% Establishment cocksucking DIABLOS)
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (O7MnT)

So what's your point. Go get hillary elected and rejoice in fantasy land

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:56 AM (V/InG)

370 from the Camisle Paglia piece

In their focus on Trump's real-estate tycoon father, the media seem to have missed that the teetotaling Trump's deepest connection was probably to his strong-willed, religious mother. Born in the stark, wind-swept Hebrides Islands off the western coast of Scotland ( the next North Atlantic stop is Iceland ), she was one tough cookie. She and her parents were Gaelic speakers, products of a history extending back to the medieval Viking raids. I suddenly realized that that is Trump's style. He's not a tribal Highlander, celebrated in Scotland's long battle for independence from England, but a Viking, slashing, burning, and laughing at the carnage in his wake. ( Think Kirk Douglas flashing his steely smile in the 1958 Hollywood epic, The Vikings. ) Trump takes savage pleasure in winning for its own sake--an attribute that speaks directly to the moment, when a large part of the electorate feels that the U.S. has become timid and uncertain and made far too many humiliating concessions to authoritarian foreign powers like China, Saudi Arabia and Iran.

this is hilarious

if you haven't read it yet, she tears up Hillary like no other

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 06, 2016 09:57 AM (qCMvj)

371 Yeah, because the problem is the voters, not the Party that told the voters to fuck themselves.

Are the voters responsible for their actions, or not?

The Republican voters had the opportunity to choose from 17 different Republican candidates and they chose the one who screamed the loudest on illegal immigration, and damn all of the other conservative principles, because that is what they wanted to hear.

They demonstrated that they don't really care much about free markets, limited government, social conservatism, all the rest, as long as they get their fix of illegal immigration rage. That is what the voters did, not the Party.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:58 AM (dpnZC)

372 Go get hillary elected and rejoice in fantasy land

Because it is very important that the Big Government New York Liberal we elected not have a D after her name.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:58 AM (O7MnT)

373 I insult 100% of the Democrat Party on a daily basis, so insulting 50% of the Republican Party is them getting off easy.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:56 AM (dpnZC)

You make more rationalizations in one day than Jeff Goldblum. And by your actions your helping a dem into the White House. Go sell that shit on some College Campus where they will buy it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:58 AM (V/InG)

374
We're not going to get it from a politician who will go down in flames after his over-the-top rhetoric is denounced and rejected as racist xenophobic scapegoating.
But any politician in the Republican Party who DOESN'T wildly overstate the problems of illegal immigration will not win the Republican primary, because that is what Republican voters evidently want to hear.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (dpnZC)
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Okay then. So we're not going to get it anywhere.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 09:58 AM (d+knu)

375 The Republican voters had the opportunity to choose from 17 different Republican candidates and they chose the one who screamed the loudest on illegal immigration, and damn all of the other conservative principles, because that is what they wanted to hear.

You don't get the rest with 30 million new Democrat voters.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 09:58 AM (mL2BD)

376 OMG

The Daily MAIL just SCRUBBED the part of the story that addressed the false confession OF A KNOWN CHILD SEX ABUSER WHO NOW LIVES AS A FEMALE

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 09:59 AM (zOTsN)

377 If Trumpkins cared about keeping Hillary out of the White House, they wouldn't have nominated a guy with Kim Kardashian's qualifications and Martin Shkreli's approval ratings.
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 09:50 AM (O7MnT)

Keep calling people you disagree with names: it's served the #NeverTrump movement so well for the past year.

Those supposedly achilles heel approval ratings didn't stop him from sweeping every single county in the northeast that has voted since New York.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 09:59 AM (xuouz)

378 We're not going to get it from a politician who will go down in flames after his over-the-top rhetoric is denounced and rejected as racist xenophobic scapegoating.
But any politician in the Republican Party who DOESN'T wildly overstate the problems of illegal immigration will not win the Republican primary, because that is what Republican voters evidently want to hear.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian

So the choice was between sanity and the donald?

Not amnesty, act of love, you have no heart, path to citizenship, not whatever Rubio said in Spanish?

Ace freely noted yesterday that the donald got traction for the simple reason that he staked out a contrary position to the clown car of candidates.

But according to you, the mobs want Barrabas.

Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 09:59 AM (326rv)

379 Meh, Libertarians.

eliminate the dope plank and see their party fall to .00000001% in the voting.

Principles!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2016 09:59 AM (0cMkb)

380 I have no patient bout phony conservatives and wolf in sheep clothing democrats this AM. Same shit different day.
later

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 06, 2016 09:59 AM (V/InG)

381 >>>342 Trumpian borders

When I read this phrase, what I see is "irrationally demagoguing and overstating the threat due to illegals so as to justify a massive government works project that doesn't even address the major source of illegal immigration (visa overstays) but does give his base a set of good feelz".

How about instead of "Trumpian borders", we have sane, rational border security that addresses all of the problems associated with illegal immigration?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:48 AM (dpnZC)

________

No. A "sane rational border security that addresses the problems associated with illegal immigration" is exactly how California went from Reagan Red to Jerry Brown Blue.

After all, building a wall, deporting illegals and even enforcing the law as is have all been called "irrational"

So yes, Trumpian is the word. Or, if you would prefer - perhaps Singaporean.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 09:59 AM (10hEu)

382 Amazing....ChemJeff if I recall you were one of the people post 08 and 12 who wanted an ACELA corridor non So-Con moderate candidate who could put New England into play....

Here's your guy....

heh

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:00 AM (g8Hfr)

383 Those supposedly achilles heel approval ratings didn't stop him from sweeping every single county in the northeast that has voted since New York.

While still getting fewer primary votes in those states than Bernie Sanders.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (O7MnT)

384
I checked with the manufacturer, and the Cascades with Phosphates sold all around the world (except in the U.S.) and the Fryer Boil Out (sold in the U.S.) is the same thing, same box, different label.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (Zs4uk)
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Holy spit. This means I could stroll across the border into T.J., buy a bunch of Cascade off their shelves, and come home with it?

I'm a former and soon-to-return San Diegan. Wow.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (d+knu)

385 353 A) Keep insulting 50% of the Party, that's a winning strategy
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Can we stop with this whining please? I don't know what percentage of GOP voters turned out in the primaries but I'll bet it was around 20%. Of those, about 40% overall were Trumpsters, meaning 8% of the party is making the decision for the party as a whole. So, it's not half who are responsible for this terrible outcome, it's much lower. Having said that, it's the process we all signed up for and the majority had plenty of time to win this thing, and failed. So, done. Finished. Vote for Trump, and keep the crime lord from the White House.

Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (/m8T6)

386
Keep calling people you disagree with names: it's served the #NeverTrump movement so well for the past year.

Well it's too late now, isn't it?

Look, you won. And not only did you win, you won by shoving conservatives to the side. So I guess you don't need my support after all.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (dpnZC)

387 381 Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 09:59 AM (10hEu)

Make your peace with our 1st and 2d amendment rights dying in the next decade...

and you know what we deserve it....

Nature does not reward stupidity....if Bald Eagles flew upside down they'd go extinct faster than the windmills are trying to do.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:02 AM (g8Hfr)

388

JOHN MARK KARR was arrested in Bangkok, is a child sex abuser, falsely confessed to the Ramsey murder and is now living as a woman

and the DAILY MAIL scrubbed that from their story

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 10:02 AM (zOTsN)

389 382
Amazing....ChemJeff if I recall you were one of the people post 08 and
12 who wanted an ACELA corridor non So-Con moderate candidate who could
put New England into play....

Here's your guy....

heh

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:00 AM (g8Hfr)
You recall wrong. I've never advocated for pandering to New England Moderates.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:02 AM (dpnZC)

390 386 Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (dpnZC)

It's odd, I don't recall being shoved any harder than I was in 2008 and 2012...

maybe I've just gotten used to it?

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:03 AM (g8Hfr)

391 *puts in #NeverTrump brand earplugs*
*smashes face in a bowl of cheetos*
*elbows wife in the face*
*quits Breitbart*
*joins Libertarian party*

Trump is a liberal. That's what it is, man. Trump's just a big ole liberal. The sheeple can't see it, but we can, maaan. He's a liberal.

Trump is a liberal. It's over man. We're getting a big government liberal in the fall.

I know what's going on. The dupes out in flyover country don't know man. Trump is a liberal. They don't even know maaaaaan.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:03 AM (xuouz)

392 >>The Daily MAIL just SCRUBBED the part of the story that addressed the
false confession OF A KNOWN CHILD SEX ABUSER WHO NOW LIVES AS A FEMALE

Ooops! Editor didn't initially catch that that story contradicted the narrative.

Repeat after me: "You're child is more safe with a trans woman that with a random woman. Trans women are safe, they just want to pee in peace! We NEED protect trans women?"

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 10:03 AM (NOIQH)

393 and keep the crime lord from the White House. Posted by: MTF at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (/m8T6)
=====

Which one?

Sorry, couldn't resist. I denounce myself.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 06, 2016 10:03 AM (MIKMs)

394 The notorious John Mark Karr is undergoing a big transformation! Here's what he looks like now, after a sex change.

INSIDE EDITION has obtained the first photo of Karr as a woman. It's on his Facebook page. He's also legally changed his name to Alexis Reich.

And check this out...he lists Alexis's birthday as January 1st, 1980. That would make Karr just 30 years old. But he's actually 45. It's a strange new turn for the man who became infamous after falsely confessing to killing JonBen�t Ramsey.

Karr apparently started changing his sexual identity in 2006, taking female hormones. For a time, he put the sex change process on hold and got engaged to Brook Simmons.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 10:03 AM (zOTsN)

395 389 Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:02 AM (dpnZC)

Really I thought you were pretty vociferous during the Tard Akin wars...

if I am wrong I sincerely apologize it does all blur.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:03 AM (g8Hfr)

396 So where is he now? Court documents obtained by INSIDE EDITION show that he's living in Seattle. When we went there to check out the address, it turned out to be just a mail drop. It's believed Karr is out of the country today. Possibly back in Thailand where he first was arrested, living a new life, as a woman.

And according to his former fianc�, to this day John Mark Karr remains completely obsessed with the JonBen�t Ramsey case.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 10:04 AM (zOTsN)

397
and the DAILY MAIL scrubbed that from their story

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 10:02 AM (zOTsN)

----------------------

The Daily Mail doesn't shy away from lurid controversy. They may have found out they were dead wrong about a key point in the story.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 10:04 AM (d+knu)

398 I wanted my money out of my 401k before they seize it. Would appreciate input in regards to ideas about what to do with it.

Posted by: cfomahm at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (RfzVr)

I suggest a small cash business.

Buy a soft serve ice cream place. Something that's only open from late spring to late fall. Use it expense everything you can, from your cars to your groceries. Keep as much of cash as possible and avoid depositing when you can.

Deposit your money when necessary, showing it coming out of your retirement savings, to pay ongoing bills of the business.

Remember, your going to lose money every year, regardless of how much you make.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 10:04 AM (Zs4uk)

399
They demonstrated that they don't really care much about free markets, limited government, social conservatism,
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian

And this somehow describes Jeb Bush???

Rubio?

Cristie?

Katshit??

Walker cam close bu then openly changed his stance on immigration.

"They had 17 candidates"

In a primary.

IN an outsider year.

And Trump IS an outsider, and he said something that contrasted himself from the clown car.

AND he had high name recognition.

This is how primaries work. If any one of those 17 assholes wanted this, they might have tried not telling the voters you despise to fuck off.

But of course blaming them doesn't satisfy your annoyance that the donald managed to beat "smart guys with "ideas"...Like giving Hillary a fucking medal.

Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 10:04 AM (326rv)

400 NYDN article on Karr:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/j3u6qlk

Posted by: Inigo Montoya at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (mL2BD)

401 391 Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:03 AM (xuouz)

They are pissed off the GOP is now finally tacitly drifting leftward....you know rather than fucking us over and selling us out in cloakrooms on C-Span....

thing is one thing Duh Donald is hardwired for is customer service.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (g8Hfr)

402 Honestly, what do Trump's followers *want* to be called, if "Trumpkins" is offensive. I assumed that was the polite term for them and was trying to use it, as opposed to 'Trumpanzee' or 'Trumptard.' I just want to know what the politically correct term they use for themselves is so I don't have to type out 'Donald Trump's followers' every time.

I am not seeking to disparage anyone. I'm detached from this election and no longer care. And the position of Donald Trump's followers is that they don't have to win over converts because he can win with his base/

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (O7MnT)

403 This shit about calling everyone who is only willing to pull the lever for Trump names is juvenile. What is this horseshit? Do you people trying to endear people with this childish bullshit. Do you think you'll convince people you're right by adding your petty insults?

Somebody pointed out here yesterday that Trump IS the third party candidate and that was a profound point, in my opinion.

The 'true conservatives' who profess to know how Trump will perform in office are full of shit. Their pronouncements about how he will destroy the country are irrational in their face. Nobody knows how he will conduct himself in office. But one thing is certain, he's not insane. He's actually damned smart and there is just as much likelihood that he will be a decent President as there is that he will be a disaster.

EXACTLY like everyone else who was in the original Republican field.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (4ng05)

404 Look, you won. And not only did you win, you won by shoving conservatives to the side. So I guess you don't need my support after all.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (dpnZC)

And I'm sure you have the forearm bruises to prove it.

Nobody shoved anyone, cj, they just voted.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:06 AM (xuouz)

405 It's odd, I don't recall being shoved any harder than I was in 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012...

Fixed for accuracy.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 10:06 AM (6hZFv)

406 We're not going to get it from a politician who will go down in flames after his over-the-top rhetoric is denounced and rejected as racist xenophobic scapegoating.
But any politician in the Republican Party who DOESN'T wildly overstate the problems of illegal immigration will not win the Republican primary, because that is what Republican voters evidently want to hear.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (dpnZC)
***
Then you're well rid of and away from those racist xenophobes who make up, so it would seem, so very considerable a proportion of the only viable national party not openly committed to the destruction of the United States and our way of life.

Forever and always, you'll hold the unassailable high ground as one of those who know better, and ought to be listened to, and whose proposals will never carry consequences because they will never be enacted.

Mazel tov.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 06, 2016 10:06 AM (lutOX)

407 399 Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 10:04 AM (326rv)

Quite....

I'll take the angst from the #NeverTrumpers more seriously if they get why he happened more correct.

The DC GOP made the tacit decision they were less bothered by Duh Donald than they were by Cruz...

THAT was a decision, but it ain't Donald's fault.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:06 AM (g8Hfr)

408 Holy spit. This means I could stroll across the border into T.J., buy a bunch of Cascade off their shelves, and come home with it?

I'm a former and soon-to-return San Diegan. Wow.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (d+knu)

Absolutely.

It's even cheaper in Mexico. About $5.50 a box.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 10:07 AM (Zs4uk)

409 #NeverTrumpers:

http://bit.ly/1QZkYpY

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:07 AM (xuouz)

410 >>>387 Make your peace with our 1st and 2d amendment rights dying in the next decade...

and you know what we deserve it....

Nature does not reward stupidity....if Bald Eagles flew upside down they'd go extinct faster than the windmills are trying to do.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:02 AM (g8Hfr)

_______

huh?

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 10:07 AM (10hEu)

411 405 Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 10:06 AM (6hZFv)

I was na�ve enough in 1988 and 1992 I didn't realize I was helping to murder Reagan's reforms.

But yeah I didn't feel any more shoving this cycle against my values than the last several.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:07 AM (g8Hfr)

412 Mind changed

[ ] Yep

[x] Nope

Still going to argue the same old shit

[x] Yep

[ ] Nope

Going to post some Triggly lingerie pics

[x] Maybe

[ ] Maybe not

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 10:07 AM (mEZce)

413 We're not going to get it from a politician who will go down in flames after his over-the-top rhetoric is denounced and rejected as racist xenophobic scapegoating."

My memory may be faulty but I think that has already been done and it didn't stop Donald Trump at all. The general isn't the primary and things haven't gotten fully underway, but I think it is premature to make any predictions about his political future.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet is Sense and Censorship Free! at May 06, 2016 10:08 AM (hLRSq)

414 Oh goody.

Well, we're only a day from the pet thread, which, I have been assured, is neither great nor huuuge.
Bbl

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (C9pBZ)

415 410 Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 10:07 AM (10hEu)

"Conservatives" who want to allow HRC to finish off the court packing for Ogabe are too dumb to deserve liberty.

Not that the GOP has shown ANY evidence they are angry at letting Chuck Schumer act as their judicial nomination "General Manager"...

we are a clown car movement.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (g8Hfr)

416 you won by shoving conservatives to the side. So I guess you don't need my support after all.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian

Ok. Which Moron was supposed to be in charge of maintaining his safe space?

Now voters didn't merely ignore their Betters; they're shoving conservatives.

Well, I consider myself to be a conservative. I don't recall being shoved by voters. I vividly recall being shit on by the aforementioned Betters though.

Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (326rv)

417 Chemjeff lost his arm? Is he threatening to bite people now?

Black Knight extraordinare.

Posted by: HopefulMonster at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (1D4Ef)

418 No. A "sane rational border security that addresses the problems
associated with illegal immigration" is exactly how California went from
Reagan Red to Jerry Brown Blue.

Wait, what? I don"t advocate the Donk model of border non-security or handing out driver's licenses to illegals.

I think we need vigorous border security. I'm fine with building a wall, but it is more symbolic than anything else, and it isn't going to even solve the major problems associated with illegal immigration, i.e., visa overstays.

What is The Donald's plan for dealing with visa overstays?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (dpnZC)

419 >>He's also legally changed his name to Alexis Reich.

And check this out...he lists Alexis's birthday as January 1st, 1980.

Wow...it's almost as if - this may sound crazy, but - he wanted to change his identity so that people wouldn't know he was a known sexual predator!
Naw.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 10:10 AM (NOIQH)

420 I am not seeking to disparage anyone. I'm detached from this election and no longer care. And the position of Donald Trump's followers is that they don't have to win over converts because he can win with his base/
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (O7MnT)

If you are so detached, why the hell are you bitching? And your statement about thinking that calling people Trumpkins is a term of endearment... Come on.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 10:10 AM (4ng05)

421 402 Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (O7MnT)

How about "fellow Republicans who may or may not have voted for Duh Donald in Duh Primary but are more pissed at Hillary than the GOP nominee....?"

or you know "Americans"?

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:10 AM (g8Hfr)

422 How about instead of "Trumpian borders", we have sane, rational border security that addresses all of the problems associated with illegal immigration?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 09:48 AM (dpnZC)

Isn't this already addressed in current law ?

Posted by: dDan at May 06, 2016 10:11 AM (hwYmz)

423 422 Posted by: dDan at May 06, 2016 10:11 AM (hwYmz)

It is....I'm old enough to remember when "equal justice for all" was not a punchline.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:12 AM (g8Hfr)

424 I'm fine with building a wall, but it is more symbolic than anything else, and it isn't going to even solve the major problems associated with illegal immigration, i.e., visa overstays.

Very true. A wall is just a symbol if it isn't backed by vigorous enforcement.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:12 AM (O7MnT)

425 398 I wanted my money out of my 401k before they seize it. Would appreciate input in regards to ideas about what to do with it.

Posted by: cfomahm at May 06, 2016 09:55 AM (RfzVr)

I suggest a small cash business.

Buy a soft serve ice cream place. Something that's only open from late spring to late fall. Use it expense everything you can, from your cars to your groceries. Keep as much of cash as possible and avoid depositing when you can.

Deposit your money when necessary, showing it coming out of your retirement savings, to pay ongoing bills of the business.

Remember, your going to lose money every year, regardless of how much you make.

Sno cone business. Less overhead. Ice and flavorded sugar water.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 10:12 AM (6hZFv)

426 >>>402 Honestly, what do Trump's followers *want* to be called
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (O7MnT)

_______

I always thought Rush's "Trumpist" was accurate, but whatever.

But lets not turn it into the idiotic trans-identifiers-gender-queer-xe-demi-sexual SJW identifiers.

Any of them do.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 10:13 AM (10hEu)

427 So if we can change our sex and name on our birth certificates, we can also change our birth years as well? Awesome.

Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 10:13 AM (4bHkw)

428 Look, you won. And not only did you win, you won by shoving conservatives to the side. So I guess you don't need my support after all.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (dpnZC)

Trump won by getting more votes. I know this is shocking to you but that's the way it works. Your disingenuous and moral preening behavior on this is tiresome. You can vote for Trump, Hillary, someone else and really most people don't care. It's your choice. I didn't vote for McCain and sucked it up and voted for Romney. You know conservative Romney who since losing has bragged about Romneycare being the blueprint for Obamacare and went back to immigration shill.

You aren't conservative anyways, your a libertarian.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (n2GmV)

429 425 Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 10:12 AM (6hZFv)

Don't get too insane with the itemizing....

the govt is jerking off wanting to "pursue fraud"...

b/c trust me although Barack says there is NO space to cut in the Federal Govt they are certain your business needs more haircutting.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (g8Hfr)

430 "The 'true conservatives' who profess to know how Trump will perform in office are full of shit. Their pronouncements about how he will destroy the country are irrational in their face. Nobody knows how he will conduct himself in office. But one thing is certain, he's not insane. He's actually damned smart and there is just as much likelihood that he will be a decent President as there is that he will be a disaster."

The funny part is "All you self-identified smart guys got beat by the guy you call an idiot. What, actually does that make you?"

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet is Sense and Censorship Free! at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (hLRSq)

431 358
The epithet 'conservative' is meaningless.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 06, 2016 09:53 AM (MIKMs)

This x1000.

Posted by: rickl at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (zoehZ)

432 Wait, what? I don"t advocate the Donk model of border non-security or handing out driver's licenses to illegals.

Yes. Yes you do. You are a Libertarian. Check your party's platform. 3.4

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (6hZFv)

433 or you know "Americans"?

Cute jingoism, but even Hillary can claim her supporters are Americans.

I know they probably want to be called, "winners who proved they're better than anything else by backing the guy who won and all you losers can suck it" but that's too much to type.

T-People?

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (O7MnT)

434 Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 10:04 AM (326rv)

Umm, hello? They all presented some good ideas. I didn't agree with all of them, but I don't recall any of them telling any Republican voter to "fuck off". It is true that not all of them had the same priority on immigration as Trump did. The voters decided that immigration was their #1 priority, even to the extent that they were willing to sacrifice all of their other principles if it meant getting that wall. That is on the voters, not on "the party" or "the establishment" or anything else.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:15 AM (dpnZC)

435
I am not seeking to disparage anyone. I'm detached from this election
and no longer care. And the position of Donald Trump's followers is that
they don't have to win over converts because he can win with his base/
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (O7MnT)

If you are so detached, why the hell are you bitching? And your
statement about thinking that calling people Trumpkins is a term of
endearment... Come on. Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 10:10 AM (4ng05)
=====

Who is the branding meme master? Fanfare for organ in the 8th inning stretch - Trump, Trump, Trump, Ta da da da, Da daaaa, Chaaaarge. /s I would think he would find it a compliment as a play on 'Repumpkins' used by Ds.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 06, 2016 10:15 AM (MIKMs)

436
Fuck the eagles. They're starting to play kamakaze.

http://tinyurl.com/jffo3tk

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2016 10:15 AM (8hALn)

437 402 Honestly, what do Trump's followers *want* to be called
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:05 AM (O7MnT)

Who are you going to be voting for and what do you want to be called. I'm certain that we can add a little childish flourish on the end to make you feel good about yourself.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 10:15 AM (4ng05)

438 The GOP hates conservatives.
Get that through your heads.
They've made it clear, not in words, but actions.

They'll be happy to lose with Trump.
Happy to "work with" democrats to further their mutual goals.
Happy to "cross the aisle" to get things done.

The GOP hates conservatives. If you are one,
You have no party.
The two parties are identical pigs, feeding from the same trough.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 06, 2016 10:15 AM (kKHcp)

439 428 Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (n2GmV)

Cj is a great guy...one of my faves...

he is going to show the GOP it can't run a retard with a non-conservative platform by going to the capital "R" libertarian party that rejects welfare reform in the modern era and wants open borders, legal drugs, and no military....

you know conservative?

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:15 AM (g8Hfr)

440
Yes. Yes you do. You are a Libertarian. Check your party's platform. 3.4

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (6hZFv)
No I don't. I don't agree with everything in the Libertarian Party platform, just like I didn't agree with everything in the Republican Party platform.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:16 AM (dpnZC)

441 I think we need vigorous border security. I'm fine with building a wall, but it is more symbolic than anything else, and it isn't going to even solve the major problems associated with illegal immigration, i.e., visa overstays.

What is The Donald's plan for dealing with visa overstays?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian

Don't know. Perhaps it's the same as the clown car. And considering that most of them are IN government, and have done Jack about it, it makes for a lively time.

And the wall being symbolic sounds nice. Bullshit, but nice.

Posted by: zombie Teddy Roosevelt at May 06, 2016 10:16 AM (326rv)

442 This means I could stroll across the border into T.J., buy a bunch of Cascade off their shelves, and come home with it?

I'm a former and soon-to-return San Diegan. Wow.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 10:01 AM (d+knu)

Actually, this is also a business to put that 401k money into...

There isn't any national ban on phosphates. It was always an individual state thing. Also, it never touched dishwasher detergent in legislation. Only laundry detergent was named.

Proctor and Gamble didn't want the adverse publicity, the potential liability and the other crap, so they made the decision internally to stop selling the dishwasher detergent in the U.S.

Anyone who wants to can go to Mexico, find the distributor (or buy the stuff retail) and bring it back across the border to sell on EBay at a handsome premium.

If you're buying it at $5.50 a box you can easily sell it for $18 or $20.

You're not breaking any laws by buying it in Mexico, transporting it or selling it in the U.S.

Of course, don't forget to send me 10% for the advice.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 10:16 AM (Zs4uk)

443 The Daily Mail doesn't shy away from lurid controversy. They may have found out they were dead wrong about a key point in the story.

Posted by: iforgot at May 06, 2016 10:04 AM (d+knu)

NOPE

there are quite a few other stories confirming that KARR is now living as a woman and hs been since 2006

KARR is a child pronography

KARR likes sex with adult men and little girls

KARR once falsely confessed to the Ramsey murder

KARR like to be a sex tourist in Asia

THE BATHROOM IS THIS WAY MISS KARR

the stories about his sex change were all out long before bathrooms became the next prog battle field

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 10:16 AM (zOTsN)

444 427
So if we can change our sex and name on our birth certificates, we can also change our birth years as well? Awesome.

Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 10:13 AM (4bHkw)

Objective reality, it seems, has stepped out for a long lunch break.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:17 AM (HalrA)

445 you won by shoving conservatives to the side. So I guess you don't need my support after all.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian

I have a vision of the future, of Corey Lewandowski grabbing an arm, forever.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet is Sense and Censorship Free! at May 06, 2016 10:17 AM (hLRSq)

446 Trump won by getting more votes. I know this is shocking to you but that's the way it works. Your disingenuous and moral preening behavior on this is tiresome.

Winning in a democracy has nothing to do with honesty or moral integrity. It should, but it doesn't. Any historical correlation seems almost coincidental.

Posted by: AD at May 06, 2016 10:18 AM (VtV1E)

447 You know conservative Romney who since losing has bragged about Romneycare being the blueprint for Obamacare and went back to immigration shill.

You aren't conservative anyways, your a libertarian.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist

You failed to mention my heroic efforts against a flag and on behalf of Katshit.

Posted by: Pres. Mitt Romney at May 06, 2016 10:18 AM (326rv)

448 You aren't conservative anyways, your a libertarian.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (n2GmV)
I have always considered myself a mix of conservative and libertarian ideas. I veer more towards conservatism when it comes to social issues, and I veer more towards libertarianism when it comes to privacy and liberty issues. That's been true of me for a long time now. When both parties veered towards big-government statism in the 2000 election, I voted for the Libertarian candidate then too. But Republicans in this election have decided they are going to reject most of what I find appealing about their party, so I have decided to reject their party.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:18 AM (dpnZC)

449 Who are you going to be voting for and what do you want to be called.

"Johnsonites" is okay with me.

It's just a word. Words are not supposed to hurt us.

Only whining leftists who need SafeSpaces and coloring books are hurt by words.

And Trump Supporters, apparently.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:18 AM (O7MnT)

450 433 Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:14 AM (O7MnT)

Hillary and her fans likely feel insult at the nom d'guerre "American" they are citizens of the world after all.

When they are done destroying my nation, when they have obliterated our industriousness, spent the last piece of Fred J Sanford 100$ bills worth, and fade away I will dust off my flag and Constitution and start over.

The Howell family was here before America.

We will be here after it.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:18 AM (g8Hfr)

451 Great deal on a Ruger SP101

http://tinyurl.com/gptx2vm

Almost like new 420" SP101 in great condition.

Im sort of a big guy so I increased the grip length to fit in better with my sword collection. Honestly I dont even like guns im more of a sword guy so id really just like to get this off my hands so I can by a nice wastahsi made cold steel. My other cold steel like my chinese great war sword is pretty great, i mean i could easily draw it faster than this ruger.
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LOL. I have no clue what the hell is going on there.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 10:18 AM (mEZce)

452 jwest @398

Now that is something I had not thought of. I am in Michigan (as I believe you are, correct me if wrong.) and would not mind having a business I could mothball in the winter and buy a place in a more rural, inexpensive, conservative area to stay in the winter and for possible permanent relocation. Have family here that could help work the business.

Thanks for the input.

Posted by: cfomahm at May 06, 2016 10:19 AM (RfzVr)

453 >>So if we can change our sex and name on our birth certificates, we can also change our birth years as well? Awesome.

Hello, looks like I'll be celebrating my (second) 30th birthday!
*makes not to contact lawyer about now identifying a a Gen Y'er, update birth certificate*

Maybe I should identify as a pretty, pretty pony, too?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 06, 2016 10:19 AM (NOIQH)

454

stop telling me Trump is not conservative

the people MOST upset by him ARE NOT EITHER

I am looking at YOU republican party and OPEN BORDERS ADVOCATES

Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 10:19 AM (zOTsN)

455 I'm fine with building a wall, but it is more symbolic than anything else, and it isn't going to even solve the major problems associated with illegal immigration, i.e., visa overstays.
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Very true. A wall is just a symbol if it isn't backed by vigorous enforcement.
Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:12 AM (O7MnT)

Yet we don't have even a single symbol of immigration enforcement now, and acting like pitching the LIV voter on acting to enforce the law (which, at this late hour, has to begin with people actually realizing that it isn't being enforced, and then accepting that they DO want it enforced), is achievable in the modern media environment only with a concerted message with a simple, concrete hook.

And it's already working. It has worked enough to get this candidate to the nomination. This is the first thing that has worked on the national level for any conservative principle. If the person advancing this cause that we, the principled writerly right, have failed so abjectly on at every turn for decades to win with, is in fact more a liberal than a conservative, what does that say about the state of conservatism?

I do not care for the strictures and sacraments of True Conservatism. I want the border enforced so that I can live my life in the United States.

Figure it the fuck out.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:20 AM (xuouz)

456 I too did not consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult. Do the Trump supporters consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:20 AM (dpnZC)

457 minus "acting like" jeebus

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:20 AM (xuouz)

458 Who are you going to be voting for and what do you want to be called.

"Johnsonites" is okay with me.

It's just a word. Words are not supposed to hurt us.

Only whining leftists who need SafeSpaces and coloring books are hurt by words.

And Trump Supporters, apparently.

And conservatives who have been repeatedly beaten to death by voters.

Posted by: Pres. Mitt Romney at May 06, 2016 10:20 AM (326rv)

459 Nood.

Posted by: HH at May 06, 2016 10:21 AM (DrCtv)

460 I didn't vote for McCain and sucked it up and voted for Romney.

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It seems like the GOP (or the base anyway - well portions of the base) has not been very happy with its nominee for quite some time. McCain, Romney, Trump - all three have pretty much disappointed most of the conservative base. We had Dole , then Bush - who I liked - etc.

Why shouldn't the primary system just be scrapped? Our the primaries producing better nominees than the conventions used to produce?

Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:21 AM (gmeXX)

461 454 Posted by: ThunderB at May 06, 2016 10:19 AM (zOTsN)

I was told the GOP would not win until we elected a non So-Con, Pro-Choice, Moderatre preferably from the ACELA corridor to put New England into play...

They wanted Rudy

They'd have settled for Chrispy

They got Duh Donald

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:21 AM (g8Hfr)

462 456 I too did not consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult. Do the Trump supporters consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:20 AM (dpnZC)

You know, you almost have me convince that you have no idea what context is. Almost.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 10:21 AM (4ng05)

463 >>>418
Wait, what? I don"t advocate the Donk model of border non-security or handing out driver's licenses to illegals.

I think we need vigorous border security. I'm fine with building a wall, but it is more symbolic than anything else, and it isn't going to even solve the major problems associated with illegal immigration, i.e., visa overstays.

What is The Donald's plan for dealing with visa overstays?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (dpnZC)

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OK. glad we are in agreement. 100% Seriously. The symbolism of the wall is key. Symbols mean A LOT. Its why the lefty's want to ban the AR - that weapon platform a right wing patriotic symbol. We like it an rally around it.

Ace talked about this tearing down of the enemy totems a year or two back. It works and we need to play that game too.

Trump has talked about a deportation force which would address the overstays. We again agree that overstays are a big problem.

However, what we have defacto from both Reps & Dems is what you call the Donk immigration model. It. Has. To. Stop. Or else we will all be California, but without the beautiful weather. The Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is LEFT of some Democrats on immigration.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 10:22 AM (10hEu)

464 The 'true conservatives' who profess to know how Trump will perform in office are full of shit. Their pronouncements about how he will destroy the country are irrational in their face. Nobody knows how he will conduct himself in office.

Why the hell should I vote for somebody if I don't know how he's going to act in office?

Posted by: AD at May 06, 2016 10:22 AM (VtV1E)

465 I too did not consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult. Do the Trump supporters consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:20 AM (dpnZC)

I do not consider "n***er" to be an insult.

Do the negroes consider "n***er" to be an insult?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:22 AM (xuouz)

466 If you're buying it at $5.50 a box you can easily sell it for $18 or $20.

You're not breaking any laws by buying it in Mexico, transporting it or selling it in the U.S.

Of course, don't forget to send me 10% for the advice.

Posted by: jwest

Or, you could just buy a 1 pound box of Trisodium Phospate from you hardware store (for wall cleaning before painting) and use the money you would use on hauling Tide over the border to enjoy Mehico..

Posted by: Bruce at May 06, 2016 10:22 AM (8ikIW)

467 Lizzy, it can work the other way too. Only 40 and want to retire? Change you birth certificate to say you're 70! Then live off the government.

Posted by: NCKate at May 06, 2016 10:23 AM (4bHkw)

468
The Howell family was here before America.

We will be here after it.

Oddly, one of the things I have been wondering about is who is going to take care of my guns when I die.

My middle son gets them in my will, and I trust he will take good care of them. But I wonder where they will be in a generation or two, provided they have been cached and cared for.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:23 AM (O7MnT)

469 The voters decided that immigration was their #1
priority, even to the extent that they were willing to sacrifice all of
their other principles if it meant getting that wall. That is on the
voters, not on "the party" or "the establishment" or anything else.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:15 AM (dpnZC)

Correct. It's a math thing. 70% of Hispanics vote Democrat. In any "pathway to citizenship" or Amnesty scenario, our country's slim margins turn into permanent Democrat domination. We could win on every issue except Amnesty, and still end up losing the war.

Some battles are absolute must-wins, and this was it. I was for Cruz, he had a strong anti-Amnesty position and agreed with my principles a lot better than Trump did. The electoral process has spoken, we did not get Cruz. Amnesty, and anyone who would push it, still has to be stopped.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:23 AM (HalrA)

470 Why the hell should I vote for somebody if I don't know how he's going to act in office?

Exactly!

Keep voting for those who you KNOW will fuck you in the ass, regardless of what they say!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 06, 2016 10:24 AM (6hZFv)

471 It's funny how Trump's most adamant supporters are his least persuasive.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:24 AM (O7MnT)

472 70% of Hispanics vote Democrat.

What is your hypothesis for why that is so?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:25 AM (dpnZC)

473 Why the hell should I vote for somebody if I don't know how he's going to act in office?

Exactly!

Keep voting for those who you KNOW will fuck you in the ass, regardless of what they say!
Posted by: rickb223

It's almost...almost as if....an outsider would be perceived as being a desirable choice.

Nah, it would never happen. Why toss aside a guy who lies to us in Spanish?

Posted by: Pres. Mitt Romney at May 06, 2016 10:26 AM (326rv)

474 Why the hell should I vote for somebody if I don't know how he's going to act in office?
Posted by: AD at May 06, 2016 10:22 AM (VtV1E)

Somebody's telling you to vote a certain way? They should stop that.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 10:26 AM (4ng05)

475 Some battles are absolute must-wins, and this was it. I was for Cruz, he had a strong anti-Amnesty position and agreed with my principles a lot better than Trump did. The electoral process has spoken, we did not get Cruz. Amnesty, and anyone who would push it, still has to be stopped.

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Obviously Trump supporters disagree, but I believe that amnesty is much more likely under a Trump presidency than a Cruz one. From that perspective, it may be less likely under a Hillary presidency - unless Hillary sweeps in a majority and can push it through. But if the GOP retained the House, then I don't think Hillary would be able to push it through.

Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:26 AM (gmeXX)

476 Now that is something I had not thought of. I am in Michigan (as I believe you are, correct me if wrong.) and would not mind having a business I could mothball in the winter and buy a place in a more rural, inexpensive, conservative area to stay in the winter and for possible permanent relocation. Have family here that could help work the business.

Thanks for the input.

Posted by: cfomahm at May 06, 2016 10:19 AM (RfzVr)

I am in Michigan.

We almost bought a small ice cream/hot dog stand last year, but nobody had the time to look after it. These are also great businesses to buy that are owner financed, so unless you negotiate a deep discount to cash the previous guy out, offer a reasonable amount down and pay it off over 3 to 5 years. (offer half the payments by check and the other in cash).

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 10:26 AM (Zs4uk)

477 Somebody's telling you to vote a certain way? They should stop that.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean

I was.....cajoled. I feel dirty.

Posted by: Pres. Mitt Romney at May 06, 2016 10:27 AM (326rv)

478 414 Oh goody.

Well, we're only a day from the pet thread, which, I have been assured, is neither great nor huuuge.
Bbl
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (C9pBZ)

It's both, dammit!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 06, 2016 10:27 AM (voOPb)

479
451 Great deal on a Ruger SP101

http://tinyurl.com/gptx2vm

Almost like new 420" SP101 in great condition.

Im sort of a big guy so I increased the grip length to fit in better with my sword collection. Honestly I dont even like guns im more of a sword guy so id really just like to get this off my hands so I can by a nice wastahsi made cold steel. My other cold steel like my chinese great war sword is pretty great, i mean i could easily draw it faster than this ruger.
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LOL. I have no clue what the hell is going on there.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 06, 2016 10:18 AM (mEZce)

*snort*

That's funny. Did you notice that he had what looked like a 9mm round jammed deep into one chamber on the cylinder?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2016 10:27 AM (8hALn)

480 Libertarian Platform

3.4 Free Trade and Migration

We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. However, we support control over the entry into our country of foreign nationals who pose a credible threat to security, health or property.

Which part of this do you disagree with chemjeff? Effectively open borders with just a background check for criminal behavior or communicable diseases.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 06, 2016 10:27 AM (n2GmV)

481 I was.....cajoled. I feel dirty.
Posted by: Pres. Mitt Romney at May 06, 2016 10:27 AM (326rv)

Here. Have a safe space.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 06, 2016 10:28 AM (4ng05)

482 Remember Trump's weird obsession with this size of Marco Rubio's hands? That was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen in a political campaign.

I mean, say what you will about Libertarians, but none of them are making middle school remarks about their candidate's appendages.

Posted by: V the K at May 06, 2016 10:28 AM (O7MnT)

483 stop telling me Trump is not conservative

the people MOST upset by him ARE NOT EITHER

I am looking at YOU republican party and OPEN BORDERS ADVOCATES

This ignores the fact Trump often did best among moderates and worst among conservatives in exit polls.

If Ben Sasse and Tom Coburn are now moderate squishes, and a guy who:

1. is against cutting any spending except waste or fraud,
2. has a history of donating to Democrats,
3. feels about as strongly about the Second Amendment as what he's having for dinner tonight,
4. feels about as strongly about abortion as what he's watching on Cable this weekend, and
5. clearly doesn't have a religious bone in his body,

is now a conservative, then I'm happy to be called a moderate.

Posted by: AD at May 06, 2016 10:28 AM (VtV1E)

484 472 Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:25 AM (dpnZC)

They are socialists.

They were socialists before socialism was cool.

Read their history.

Simon Bolivar was a proto-Marxist.

They LOVE all-encompassing, embracing, judging government.

They are natural totalitarians.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:28 AM (g8Hfr)

485 Which part of this do you disagree with chemjeff? Effectively open borders with just a background check for criminal behavior or communicable diseases.

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In fairness, it is better than the status quo.

Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:29 AM (gmeXX)

486
What is your hypothesis for why that is so?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:25 AM (dpnZC)

Policy preferences. They come from Bolivarian Socialist countries, and generally agreed with everything but their inability to get a job and make money, which they solved by coming here.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:31 AM (HalrA)

487 rickb223 @ 425
sven10077 429

Thank you both. I may look into what it takes to get one of those cart/catering trucks that move around to all the little church festivals and such. Shorter work day and work week. Will have to look into the costs associated with purchasing equipment, health regs and fees one must pay for spaces at these sort of things. Seems if I kept it simple (one item made really well) it would be easier.

Posted by: cfomahm at May 06, 2016 10:33 AM (RfzVr)

488 They are socialists.

All of them? That's a bit of a broad brush.

Do you think they are Bolivarian Marxist revolutionaries? That seems like a bit of a stretch.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:33 AM (dpnZC)

489 486 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:31 AM (HalrA)

Yup...they are not coming to America to be Americans they are bringing home to America to change America.

"Ok" I mean go to El Paso look south and tell me it is not paradise.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:33 AM (g8Hfr)

490 >>>472 70% of Hispanics vote Democrat.

What is your hypothesis for why that is so?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:25 AM (dpnZC)

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It doesn't matter why. It is a fact.

Blame it on culture, blame it on DDT, blame it on windmills killing the eagles, or blame it on magical fun time kaboom cereal. Doesn't matter why - it is a fact. 70% Dems

It is a fact and that is why amnesty CANNOT HAPPEN.

We can worry about why and trying to fix it later.

The Trumpian re-frame of this issue *could* be -
"I'm not opposed to amnesty per se, but until we figure out why the to be amnestied keep voting against our national interests I am placing a temporary ban on all immigration plans that include amnesty."

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 10:33 AM (10hEu)

491 Policy preferences. They come from Bolivarian
Socialist countries, and generally agreed with everything but their
inability to get a job and make money, which they solved by coming here.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:31 AM (HalrA)
Do you think "Bolivarian Socialists" can be talked out of supporting socialism?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:34 AM (dpnZC)

492 Yup...they are not coming to America to be Americans they are bringing home to America to change America.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:33 AM (g8Hfr)

One needs only to look at all of the Mexican and other flags flying at "immigration" events to realize that these people did not come here because they wanted to be Americans and to participate in the American dream.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:34 AM (HalrA)

493 488 Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:33 AM (dpnZC)

Yes, all of the human wave coming our way are as indoctrinated in collectivism as the Democrats have made Gen Tippy Cup at a minimum.

Legal Hispanics that are American raised are "oddly" American in their thought.

If I believed the open borders would be coupled with the Texas model of assimilation I would be a fan.

We will follow the Mexifornia model and kill the nation.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:35 AM (g8Hfr)

494 >>>415 "Conservatives" who want to allow HRC to finish off the court packing for Ogabe are too dumb to deserve liberty.

Not that the GOP has shown ANY evidence they are angry at letting Chuck Schumer act as their judicial nomination "General Manager"...

we are a clown car movement.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:09 AM (g8Hfr)

________

*ahem* We are a Clown -Train- Movement

All Aboard!!!

Posted by: Trump Train at May 06, 2016 10:35 AM (10hEu)

495 It doesn't matter why. It is a fact.

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Out of curiosity, what it is it in Texas, and what is it in CA?

And is that all Hispanics in general? Do we see any movement of 2nd generation to the GOP?

Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:35 AM (gmeXX)

496
It doesn't matter why. It is a fact.

Well, sure it does.

If for instance people vote Democrat out of purely self-interest and not for ideological ones, then it suggests that they are persuadable, not rigid ideologues.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:36 AM (dpnZC)

497 Do you think "Bolivarian Socialists" can be talked out of supporting socialism?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:34 AM (dpnZC)

It is simply impossible to convince a large enough number fast enough to keep this country from becoming the next attempted Worker's Paradise. Socialists are not quickly deprogrammed.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:36 AM (HalrA)

498 If I believed the open borders would be coupled with the Texas model of assimilation I would be a fan.

We will follow the Mexifornia model and kill the nation.

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Sort of where I was getting at with my question as to CA v. TX.

Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:37 AM (gmeXX)

499

One needs only to look at all of the Mexican
and other flags flying at "immigration" events to realize that these
people did not come here because they wanted to be Americans and to
participate in the American dream.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:34 AM (HalrA)
Having pride in one's ancestral country doesn't necessarily prove one is a Bolivarian Socialist.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:37 AM (dpnZC)

500 Having pride in one's ancestral country doesn't necessarily prove one is a Bolivarian Socialist.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:37 AM (dpnZC)

The commonplace refusal to learn the language and assimilate into the culture also prove a certain lack of interest in becoming Americans.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 10:38 AM (HalrA)

501 499 Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:37 AM (dpnZC)

La Raza and Reconquista are misunderstood amigo...

I get it you heart open borders....

try the magic trick in reverse amigo.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 10:39 AM (g8Hfr)

502 Do the negroes consider "n***er" to be an insult?
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:22 AM (xuouz)

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See some of y'all on the ONT.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at May 06, 2016 10:39 AM (rlfds)

503 70% of Hispanics vote Democrat.

What is your hypothesis for why that is so?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:25 AM (dpnZC)

Stepping onto American soil does not make one suddenly understand what it takes to maintain liberty. They tend to bring the same cultural problems with them that they left. (See for instance how blue state lefties who flee their dysfunctional problems cause the same problems in the areas they flee to.) Up until the last 50 or so years, most immigration came from societies that had at least some similarities to US culture. Not perfect and one of the reasons for the great immigration moratorium was the flood of immigrants who were less than culturally compatible. So, you have people who come from more socialist countries who "shockingly" support the more socialist party. Now if you limited the numbers, you have a chance to immerse them in your society. If you have 1 in 5 being foreign born, you are in a pickle where the newcomers start to dictate to the current society.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 06, 2016 10:41 AM (n2GmV)

504 If for instance people vote Democrat out of purely self-interest and not for ideological ones, then it suggests that they are persuadable, not rigid ideologues.
Posted by: chemjeff

pretty hard to persuade someone whose gimedats depend on them not being persuaded

Posted by: x at May 06, 2016 10:42 AM (nFwvY)

505 The commonplace refusal to learn the language and assimilate into the culture also prove a certain lack of interest in becoming Americans.

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Sort of a chicken / egg issue. There is less reason for them to learn the language and assimilate these days than many years ago.

That may not change the calculus as more come over there is more pressure to assimilate even less.

But again, Texas and CA are radically different on these scores.

Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:44 AM (gmeXX)

506 >>>496

Well, sure it does.

If for instance people vote Democrat out of purely self-interest and not for ideological ones, then it suggests that they are persuadable, not rigid ideologues.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:36 AM (dpnZC)

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As I said before, the reframe of the issue as to include those curious about the why they vote lefty is this :

"I'm not opposed to amnesty per se, but until we figure out why the to be amnestied insist on voting against our national interests I insist on temporarily banning all immigration plans that include amnesty."

Spend all the time you want figuring it out, b/c as long as they are against us. No Dice. Its a Scott Adams Master Persuader tactic called the High Ground Maneuver.

Posted by: Trump Train at May 06, 2016 10:46 AM (10hEu)

507 Forgot to take the sock off

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 10:47 AM (10hEu)

508 late to thread, but Ricardo, Aunt is tia is Spanish. Abuela is grandmother. In my family I'm Tia Borracha so I know.

Posted by: stace at May 06, 2016 10:48 AM (6oxBO)

509 >>>499
Having pride in one's ancestral country doesn't necessarily prove one is a Bolivarian Socialist.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:37 AM (dpnZC)

_______

Agreed - it does not necessarily prove it in all cases, but it does in these cases.

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 06, 2016 10:48 AM (10hEu)

510 Having pride in one's ancestral country doesn't necessarily prove one is a Bolivarian Socialist.
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:37 AM (dpnZC)

_______

Agreed - it does not necessarily prove it in all cases, but it does in these cases.

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Though being proud of your Irish heritage usually means you like to drink and fight.

Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:50 AM (gmeXX)

511 503 70% of Hispanics vote Democrat.

What is your hypothesis for why that is so?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:25 AM (dpnZC)

In Texas they vote as high as 40% Repub. governor Abbott got over 50% with Hispanic men. He didn't say anything about NYC taco bowls, so that may have helped.

Posted by: stace at May 06, 2016 10:50 AM (6oxBO)

512 Yeah it's a pretty bullshit thing to say, isn't it SMFH?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:50 AM (xuouz)

513 I'm Tia Borracha

Isnt that Drunk Aunt ?

Posted by: McCool at May 06, 2016 10:53 AM (TQxRy)

514 Though being proud of your Irish heritage usually means you like to drink and fight.
Posted by: SH at May 06, 2016 10:50 AM (gmeXX)

The fuck I do lad
*slugs tully dew*
Have at ye!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 06, 2016 10:53 AM (xuouz)

515 503 70% of Hispanics vote Democrat.

What is your hypothesis for why that is so?
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 06, 2016 10:25 AM (dpnZC)

This is where the GOPe fucks up the most.

They think that to get the Hispanic vote they need to pander on the border or other issues.

All we need to do is take the lead in education. Make the teacher's union El Diablo and promise to push for vouchers. The biggest issue with Hispanics is not ending up like the African Americans.

We could kill two birds with one stone if there was a concerted campaign of showing how democrat's "help" has insured a future of poverty in the black community and ask if the Hispanic community wants the same thing.

Hard hitting. Not politically correct.

Just the kind of campaign Trumpians would do.

Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 10:56 AM (Zs4uk)

516 513 I'm Tia Borracha

Isnt that Drunk Aunt ?
Posted by: McCool at May 06, 2016 10:53 AM (TQxRy)

Yes. I was referring to something way up thread. .

Posted by: stace at May 06, 2016 10:57 AM (6oxBO)

517 Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 10:56 AM (Zs4uk)

I fully agree that we will not win by pandering.

It's also worth noting that among legal Hispanics, support for border security is higher than a lot of people would expect. Most of them don't want the cartels and their street gang minions showing up in their communities and recruiting their children into a life of crime.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 06, 2016 11:00 AM (HalrA)

518 "Honestly, what do Trump's followers *want* to be called, if "Trumpkins" is offensive. I assumed that was the polite term for them and was trying to use it, as opposed to 'Trumpanzee' or 'Trumptard.'"

I've been going with "Trumpleforeskins".

Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 11:04 AM (SmRdu)

519 518 Posted by: Trumps of Doom at May 06, 2016 11:04 AM (SmRdu)

Yeah we Trump agnostics refrain from "Hop on Gary's Johnsons"

professional courtesy and all that

Posted by: sven10077 at May 06, 2016 11:05 AM (g8Hfr)

520

Hard hitting. Not politically correct.

Just the kind of campaign Trumpians would do.
Posted by: jwest at May 06, 2016 10:56 AM (Zs4uk)

Eh, some of that works. I'm talking about TX, but what worked for Abbott was deploying his Hispanic mother in law and spending a lot of time in South TX talking KNOWLEGABLY to Mexican communities. He didn't pander on the issues, but he courted them by spending time with them and showing familiarity with their culture.

Wendy Davis failed because the Obama people who parachuted in to run her campaign were clueless Yankees who didn't know how to talk to people in border towns.

NYC taco bowl = face palm.

Posted by: stace at May 06, 2016 11:05 AM (6oxBO)

521 I too did not consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult. Do the Trump supporters consider "Trumpkin" to be an insult?

Don't be a disingenuous piece of shit.

Oh wait, do you consider "piece of shit" to be an insult? Dogs love it, it's like a treat.

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 06, 2016 11:29 AM (1D4Ef)

522 You can't talk to him like that. He's one of our betters, utterly incapable of understanding anything that might interfere with his smug self-satisfaction.

You'd do well to apologize, or we'll lose this true conservative forever.

Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at May 06, 2016 11:39 AM (Fv0+L)

523 Oh wait, do you consider "piece of shit" to be an insult? Dogs love it, it's like a treat.

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 06, 2016 11:29 AM (1D4Ef)

Is "neo-con" an insult? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Mimzey at May 06, 2016 12:18 PM (aRUb8)

524 Is "neo-con" an insult? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Mimzey at May 06, 2016 12:18 PM (aRUb

Some consider it so. I think it's the only available word to describe a faction in the GOP that was in favor of using America to bring democracy to the world.

I'll say it's contextual. Sometimes you need the word Nazi to talk about actual Nazis, after all.

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 06, 2016 12:45 PM (uURQL)

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