Wednesday Morning News Dump (5/4/16) [Mis. Hum.]

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1 IN sidebar I thought it said America is dying from a million cats.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM (2Ocf1)

2 Good morning Horde. May I interrupt the Dump for a moment... my employer is closing its doors in 8 weeks. I was completely blindsided by this, we were profitable and doing good business. I can't explain further without risking my anonymity.

Not a lovely thought at my age to be back in the market again, but life continues to be real. And may every socialist-leaning fuck die on the barbed cock of Satan.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM (3MozY)

3 Fat lady has SUNG.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM (eHpnh)

4 If the MFM and Obama were honest BLM would be labeled as a subversive group.

If these inner city hell holes were not run by corrupt Democrats 90% of those BLM assholes would be in jail.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 07:59 AM (vvmPQ)

5 And I ask again, what wrong lesson will the GOPe learn from Trump? Because it looks like it's going to be a doozey.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 04, 2016 07:59 AM (3sOO0)

6 The Obama administration has acclerated the release of Guantanamo detainees to fulfill a campaign pledge to critics who say the suspected combatants are being held indefinitely without due process.

Letting terrorist free, letting in illegals, burying the country in debt. The America hating POS has done a great job is destroying the country any way he can

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 04, 2016 08:00 AM (45oDG)

7

DAY 1,275

188 to go (261 to Inauguration Day )

Muzzies, Marxists, Maoists, Mau-Maus, MFM's, Moochelle, Mao-suits, McCain's, McConnell's, Mario's, Mahdi megatons, machiavellian Mississippi mudslingers, McAuliffe's, Maduro's, MIRV's, Mexifornians, McKesson's, Mizzou malefactors, mewling mattress-myth manufacturers, marriage maimers, menacing Mozillan 'mo's, Myrmidons, Mugwumps, Monrovian microbes, mutants, malcontents, malthusians, maniacs, malignant medical mandates, martial law, miscreants, microaggressors, minions, maladjusted masochistic multiculturalists, momzers, mamalukes, mooks, mopes, mariuoli, meeskeits, maricons, marauders, malodorous militants, menstruating mons veneri, malfunctioning Moron microsites and miscellaneous meshugas notwithstanding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:01 AM (p4UlV)

8 Oh, Google has access to the UK's patient records. I mean nothing can go wrong when your company motto includes "Don't be evil". I need to be reminded of that everyday myself.

Posted by: Flyguy at May 04, 2016 08:01 AM (3sOO0)

9 The Establishment is dead! Long live the Establishment!

Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 08:01 AM (UzPAd)

10 I'm sure Obama's corrupt DOJ wil appeal that AZ ID theft law further up with our tax money.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (vvmPQ)

11 Remember when we thought Jeb Bush was the worst possible GOP Nominee? Good times. Good times.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (O7MnT)

12 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM (3MozY)
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Right out of the blue? Talk about a gut-wrencher. Wow. I'm so sorry. I hope that you can get something else lined up for you. You'll be in my prayers.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (dFi94)

13 Blubbering thing link broke.

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (V40IZ)

14
I can't even put into words the abject disgust I feel after yesterday.

If that blathering flim flam man actually gets elected, I will do whatever I can in my own feeble way to hold his rotten, stinking, purulent feet to the fire.

Dear G-d, we are so utterly screwed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (p4UlV)

15 Bat Chain Puller I feel for you. I got laid off end of October and have been looking for a new position since. Tech guy @50. Not the easiest. A couple of weeks ago I hit bottom after getting three rejections in a single day. Moved from feeling unemployed to feeling unemployable.

I got better. And looking like I am closing in on an offer very soon.

So, main thing hang in there. Having been on the other side I know it feels like it's easy for someone to say. But, really, hang in there.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (2Ocf1)

16 "The conduct of the Republican party in this nomination is a remarkable indication of small intellect, growing smaller. They pass over statesmen and able men and they take up a fourth rate lecturer who cannot speak good grammar."

-The New York Herald (May 1860)
Commenting on A. Lincoln's nomination at the Republican national Convention

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 04, 2016 08:04 AM (SeD0w)

17 Bat Chain Puller, prayers up for a great new job for you. I'm sorry this has happened. Maybe something better will come out of it - I hope so.

Posted by: bluebell at May 04, 2016 08:04 AM (2WwbN)

18 There's a stray quotation mark at the end of the Trigglypuff link (blubbering thing).

Posted by: rickl at May 04, 2016 08:05 AM (sdi6R)

19 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller

I am in a similar position.

Best advice I got? Build a tight, high quality LinkedIn profile.

Quickest and easiest way to contact recruiters and potential employers.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:05 AM (Gwldq)

20 16 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 04, 2016 08:04 AM (SeD0w)

You aren't really trying to compare Donald Trump to Abraham Lincoln, are you?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:05 AM (p4UlV)

21 Morning!

Hey, the self-driving car can't be any worse than the lady I saw the other day who while driving was:
1. Talking on the phone
2. Doing her eyelashes in the mirror
3. With a cigarette in her other hand

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 04, 2016 08:06 AM (UpGcq)

22 I blame Bush for that USS Cole bomber being released by Obama. That guy, along with the other detainees involved in killing Americans, should have been executed by firing squad after all information regarding terrorist had been tortured out of him/them.

Bush should have invoked Jackson on the Bomiterrorist obscenity by SCOTUS.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 08:06 AM (vvmPQ)

23 I expect that the GOPe will derive the following learning from the Trump nomination: see, the voters really are dumb and we need to make sure that we really don't listen to them.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:07 AM (2Ocf1)

24 Hiring temps to avoid Obamacare started almost immediately after Obamacare passed.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 08:07 AM (vvmPQ)

25 I thought maybe I had a bad nightmare when I woke up this morning. Nope. The narcissistic imbecile really is our nominee. Congratulations to all the idiots who see the imbecile as their Saviour. I'll be staying home in the general election like others have stated.

Posted by: Sassy at May 04, 2016 08:07 AM (q7eWh)

26 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM

Sorry to hear that. Was this a case of management just deciding not to continue or were there more sinister forces at work? If you can talk without getting in trouble, that is...

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:07 AM (eytER)

27 Well, I'm in a supposed Swing State, so I guess I'll be seeing a lot of Trump and Clinton this summer. Unless they're both so triggered by the Tranny-Potty crisis that they boycott NC. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 04, 2016 08:08 AM (2cS/G)

28 And @25 validates my prediction.

Not everyday you get validation so quickly.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:08 AM (2Ocf1)

29 28
And @25 validates my prediction.

*sigh*

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:09 AM (Gwldq)

30 Jackpot Jury awards for talcum powder is just one more block of evidence showing the tort system in the US needs to be abolished.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 08:10 AM (vvmPQ)

31 And @ 28 - it isn't everyday you see people who are so desperate and gullible that they view a moron as their answer to all their problems.

Posted by: Sassy at May 04, 2016 08:11 AM (q7eWh)

32 I just read that Cate Blanchett is now a goodwill ambassador for the UN refugee agency.

I'm sure her gravitas is impressing the hell out of the Syrians who are, er, "fleeing" their country.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:11 AM (eytER)

33 And may every socialist-leaning fuck die on the barbed cock of Satan.

prayers with you.
Pro tips:
1) look at creating multiple resumes, get a pro to look at them. If you're in/around sales or production, quantify, quantify, quantify.
2) let everyone know you're looking. losing a job is nothing to be ashamed of
3) consider dying your hair
4) Impossible to do at this minute, but enjoy the time off as much as possible. Reconnect w/family and friends. If you're worth a darn, you will be working again. Probably soon

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 04, 2016 08:11 AM (SeD0w)

34 Time for everyone to be buddies.

What's past is past and all we need to do is focus on defeating Hillary (or Bernie).

For god's sake, we don't need any O'Donnelling.

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 08:11 AM (Zs4uk)

35 "5 And I ask again, what wrong lesson will the GOPe learn from Trump? Because it looks like it's going to be a doozey. Posted by: Flyguy at May 04, 2016 07:59 AM (3sOO0)"

They'll just do what Republican officeholders do: They'll piss down our backs and tell us it's raining.

A the problem isn't "GOPe." The problem is the Republican Party.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 08:11 AM (eHpnh)

36 I'm in a swing state too. I signed up with NoMoRoBo, so that should stop robo callers at least. I signed up the other day and it's already blocked half a dozen calls. Bye Bye Trump. Bye Bye Ryan.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:11 AM (dFi94)

37 @25 driveby. Pay it no heed.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Evil So Con at May 04, 2016 08:12 AM (WVsWD)

38 >>>I thought maybe I had a bad nightmare when I woke up this morning. Nope. The narcissistic imbecile really is our nominee.<<<

You should have seen this coming. Serious, you guys. McCain? Romney?

Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 08:12 AM (UzPAd)

39 A quick heads-up before I leave for work: SpaceX is planning a satellite launch at 1:21 am Eastern Thursday morning. I don't know if I can stay up that late so I might have to take a nap in the evening after work.

They will be launching a Japanese satellite to a geosynchronous orbit. The first stage will once again attempt a landing on the droneship, but since it will be coming in hot and fast, their press release says a successful landing is "unlikely".

The last time they used language like that they punched a hole in the deck. Think Wile E. Coyote on a cliff face.

Posted by: rickl at May 04, 2016 08:12 AM (sdi6R)

40
"Loud Sex Finally Too Much For Cancer-Stricken Neighbors"

Headline at USA Today.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:12 AM (p4UlV)

41 Sassy:

You concern is:

[x] Noted
[ ] Other than noted.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:12 AM (2Ocf1)

42 @ 37: Not a drive by asshole. I've been here since 2007 so suck it.

Posted by: Sassy at May 04, 2016 08:13 AM (q7eWh)

43 As I said on the morning thread:

I haven't seen this level of emo angst since Justin Bieber and Selena split.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:13 AM (Gwldq)

44 May I interrupt the Dump for a moment... my employer is closing its doors in 8 weeks. I was completely blindsided by this, we were profitable and doing good business"

Damn. Best of luck there.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at May 04, 2016 08:14 AM (C9pBZ)

45 You aren't really trying to compare Donald Trump to Abraham Lincoln, are you?
No.
I just started "Team of Rivals" last night, and that quote was inside the jacket. I thought it was germane, not indicative.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 04, 2016 08:14 AM (SeD0w)

46 @25

Seniority card has been played.

Next?

Driveby.

Vrrooommm!!!!

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Green Light! Squel those tires!! at May 04, 2016 08:15 AM (WVsWD)

47 @2 Bat Chain Puller

Sorry to hear that. Did they file chapter 11 or simply relocating overseas?

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at May 04, 2016 08:15 AM (Zqv3+)

48 25 I thought maybe I had a bad nightmare when I woke up this morning. Nope. The narcissistic imbecile really is our nominee. Congratulations to all the idiots who see the imbecile as their Saviour. I'll be staying home in the general election like others have stated.
Posted by: Sassy at May 04, 2016 08:07 AM (q7eWh)

Go ahead and stay home. Like what happened with Mitt Romney, all over again, and look what that did for us. A big fat mega problem with ramifications that will go on for years. Get your head out of your ass.

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr at May 04, 2016 08:15 AM (+l9ET)

49 "my employer is closing its doors in 8 weeks. I was completely blindsided by this"

Sorry to hear it, Anonamouse.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 08:15 AM (eHpnh)

50 Not a drive by asshole.

So, walking today, huh?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:15 AM (Gwldq)

51 @46 - and you sound about as intelligent as your Saviour.

Posted by: Sassy at May 04, 2016 08:15 AM (q7eWh)

52 Insult card has been played.

What can be left?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Waiting but not anticipating. at May 04, 2016 08:16 AM (WVsWD)

53 "Go ahead and stay home."

Thanks, I will.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 08:16 AM (eHpnh)

54 Time for everyone to be buddies.

Yeah, probably not. I don't take kindly to being called every name in the book by the Trump Faithful and then basically blackmailed into voting for their Naked Emperor.

I'm of the school that believes if you enable bad behavior you get more bad behavior, and I really don't care to enable the GOPe or Donald Trump.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:17 AM (eytER)

55 10 I'm sure Obama's corrupt DOJ wil appeal that AZ ID theft law further up with our tax money.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (vvmPQ)
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Wouldn't put it past them to try, but if they couldn't convince the 9th Circuit, they're not likely to convince the Supremes.

AZ now how mandatory e-verify, and harsher penalties for ID theft. It's a good thing. Of course, as Sheriff Arpaio pointed out, Obama is trying hard to legalize as many of the illegals as he can, so that they won't need to use their fraudulent ID docs to take Americans' jobs.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 04, 2016 08:17 AM (BNs9e)

56 The Problem with voting for Trump to stop Hillary is that even if you win, you still get Trump.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 08:17 AM (O7MnT)

57 I hope some people can cool down and recognize that Hillary is the real enemy.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at May 04, 2016 08:18 AM (uo5hQ)

58 I think Trump is a nutcase. As in, clinically koo koo. I also think he is a liberal Democrat. I have decided however to watch and observe and sift through his actions and his words until November. I've decided to keep an open mind. That's about as far as I am willing to go at this point.

If anyone would like to note my level of concern, be my guest.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:18 AM (dFi94)

59 "If that blathering flim flam man actually gets elected, I will do whatever I can in my own feeble way to hold his rotten, stinking, purulent feet to the fire.

Dear G-d, we are so utterly screwed."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (p4UlV)

So we can count on your support?

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 08:18 AM (Zs4uk)

60 45 You aren't really trying to compare Donald Trump to Abraham Lincoln, are you?
No.
I just started "Team of Rivals" last night, and that quote was inside the jacket. I thought it was germane, not indicative.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 04, 2016 08:14 AM (SeD0w)

Since in all likelihood there will not be a contested convention, it's no longer germane.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:18 AM (p4UlV)

61 Hell of a Dump there, MH.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (9ym/8)

62 If that blathering flim flam man actually gets elected, I will do whatever I can in my own feeble way to hold his rotten, stinking, purulent feet to the fire.

Dear G-d, we are so utterly screwed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:03 AM (p4UlV)

Yep. Since we're stuck with what we're stuck with, we need to make it politically expedient for the wrong man to do the right thing.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (J+mig)

63 being called every name in the book by the Trump Faithful and then basically blackmailed into voting for their Naked Emperor.

who?..

when...?

blackmail?!

WTFF

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (Gwldq)

64 34 Time for everyone to be buddies.

What's past is past and all we need to do is focus on defeating Hillary (or Bernie).

For god's sake, we don't need any O'Donnelling

Haha. Funny, All of the calling for unity is hilarious., and it's only going to get worse when Donald starts getting schlonged. You wanted trump, you'll have to live with that.

Posted by: Spypeach at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (nyYhO)

65 Let's see if the GOP can turn it's energies against piaps. *sigh* Who am I kidding. On to the feel good story.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (Ht/4p)

66 I haven't seen this level of emo angst since Justin Bieber and Selena split.
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Grassroots Rs who took the time and effort to participate in their own party's nomination and delegate process were accused of stealing.

I am 'concerned' that some wounds just do not heal and there is no healing with someone whose middle-school mean girls persona is WINNING.

YMMV.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (MIKMs)

67 47 @2 Bat Chain Puller

Sorry to hear that. Did they file chapter 11 or simply relocating overseas?
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Door number 2. Parent company was overseas.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (3MozY)

68 So now do we get to see Trump pivot to attacking Hillary vociferously, coherently, and with sound economic arguments?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2016 08:20 AM (KUaJL)

69 >>>>I thought maybe I had a bad nightmare when I woke up this morning.
Nope. The narcissistic imbecile really is our nominee. Congratulations
to all the idiots who see the imbecile as their Saviour. I'll be
staying home in the general election like others have stated.
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.
.
.Good for you! Hillary appreciates your vote.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 08:20 AM (iONHu)

70 You want to understand the fundamental issues with the Republican Party? Stroll over to a "conservative" site like RS, where they are now vowing to work against Trump and not vote.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 08:20 AM (O0lVq)

71 Morning all

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 08:21 AM (3ZtZW)

72 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 04, 2016 08:21 AM (ZQfW9)

73 Someone better keep the sharp objects away from Glen Beck. At least get him a sammich.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 04, 2016 08:21 AM (mv76s)

74 Grassroots Rs who took the time and effort to participate in their own
party's nomination and delegate process were accused of stealing.

A completely new twist in American politics.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:22 AM (Gwldq)

75 Well, got dad picked up this morning at 5:00 from the clinic and back at the ranch now. He didn't play well with the nurses this morning.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:22 AM (9ym/8)

76 @blaster-The Trumpsters war cry, "The GOP needs to be destroyed!" Congrats guys, you've succeeded where the GOPe failed, you've driven Conservatives out of the Repub Party. You wanted the GOP destroyed, it is. "Conservatism is dead", "FU, we don't need you to win", still ringing in my ears.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (wnwJC)

77 27
Well, I'm in a supposed Swing State, so I guess I'll be seeing a lot of
Trump and Clinton this summer. Unless they're both so triggered by the
Tranny-Potty crisis that they boycott NC. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 04, 2016 08:08 AM (2cS/G)
We're all in swing states now

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (uAvJJ)

78 The primary is over.

The butthurt continues.

Everyone is still sniffing and rubbing their owies, wanting revenge for the mean words icky people threw at them weeks and months ago.

Every damn election cycle, the same thing, over and over.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (uz/Pv)

79 Well, on the bright side it looks like I can make alternate plans for November 8 rather than stand in line in some fetid sweaty high school gym.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (eytER)

80 On this day in 1970, Nixon put an end to all the bullshite happening on college campuses. Help us Tricky Dick, you're our only hope!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (EZebt)

81 59 So we can count on your support?
Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 08:18 AM (Zs4uk)

There is no choice. I do not "support" Mr. Trump. After his incredibly revolting and frankly frightening outburst at Rafael Cruz, I'm more appalled at this man and everyone - EVERYONE - who is ignoring or making excuses for his record past and present and statements.

That said, I cannot allow Hilary Clinton or Bernie Sanders anywhere near the Executive Branch. That will be the bitter end.

But if anyone thinks Donald Trump is going to reverse or attempt to reverse the damage of the past 8 to 50 years, they're delusional.

I'd rather gamble on the Bottle marked "X" than the one with rat poison and plutonium in it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (p4UlV)

82 "He didn't play well with the nurses this morning. "

Dad is a bit grumpy. You don't say.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Waiting but not anticipating. at May 04, 2016 08:24 AM (WVsWD)

83 @70 well that seems like good thinking. The best part I think is that the people who say they won't vote for Trump or like ace say they'll vote for Hillary is that they say "see you stupid people you just elected Hillary!"

:rollfuckingeyes:

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:24 AM (2Ocf1)

84 Good for you! Hillary appreciates your vote.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 08:20 AM (iONHu)
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This is such a weak argument that I am starting to automatically discard it. The only way a person not voting for Trump would help Hillary is if that person was the tie-breaker in their state's election, AND their state's electoral votes were the deciding factor.

For instance, not voting for Trump in Texas is not going to put Hillary over the top.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:24 AM (dFi94)

85 Stroll over to a "conservative" site like RS, where they are now vowing to work against Trump and not vote.

===

RS is full of the kinds of people that 'bate to Anime. Right, Rick?

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 08:24 AM (3ZtZW)

86 Ricardo, do I recall correctly that this was a sleep clinic thing? I hope for a good outcome.

Posted by: bluebell at May 04, 2016 08:24 AM (2WwbN)

87 I'm of the school that believes if you enable bad behavior you get more bad behavior, and I really don't care to enable the GOPe or Donald Trump.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:17 AM (eytER)

It's either enable Trump's bad behavior, enable Hillary's even worse behavior, or try to establish some kind of third option. I won't criticize anybody who votes their conscience on a third party after Trump's campaign. I'm a Never Hillary type, so I'm going to vote for the best non-Hillary option. If you want to make a better non-Hillary option, then please feel free.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 04, 2016 08:24 AM (J+mig)

88 >>>>That said, I cannot allow Hilary Clinton or Bernie Sanders anywhere near the Executive Branch. That will be the bitter end.

But if anyone thinks Donald Trump is going to reverse or attempt to
reverse the damage of the past 8 to 50 years, they're delusional.

I'd rather gamble on the Bottle marked "X" than the one with rat poison and plutonium in it.

.
.
.
.That pretty much sums up my feelings. Fight the Devil that you know will do everything you are opposed to and hope the devil you don't know won't screw up too badly.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 08:25 AM (iONHu)

89 79 Well, on the bright side it looks like I can make alternate plans for November 8 rather than stand in line in some fetid sweaty high school gym.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (eytER

The lack of any coattails will hurt every GOP candidate, from dog catcher, state assemblyman, congress critter, senator.

2 candidates with unfavorable ratings of 60% or higher, just WTF!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 08:26 AM (voOPb)

90 >>Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (p4UlV)
<<

At least you are thinking rationally and making an intelligent decision. I have my doubts about Trump as well, but there are hopeful signs he will at least stem the tide of what has been going on. There is real potential to start rolling back some of the overreach. But I'll check my fire on that one.

You have to see some of the nevertrump lunacy this morning.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 08:27 AM (O0lVq)

91 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM (3MozY)

Prayers that you will find a better job soon.

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:27 AM (nbrY/)

92
The only reason I'm upset Cruz suspended his campaign was that he loses the clout to help shape the party platform for the next 4 years. Not that the party actually follows it let alone has one, but you do lose clout in that regard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:27 AM (p4UlV)

93 Fenelon, if you are here, I saw at the end of the last thread that you are very happy in your interim church. I am so glad - I know you were uncertain as to how things would go. Sounds as though it's all going well.

Posted by: bluebell at May 04, 2016 08:27 AM (2WwbN)

94 85 Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 08:24 AM (3ZtZW)

Red State is another of the carny barker 'sites...

a lot of people are going to have the opportunity to show that they feel "shut up and vote" is a one way street this cycle.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:28 AM (g8Hfr)

95 @67 Bat Chain Puller

"Door number 2. Parent company was overseas."

A lot of that going around. Foreign companies are picking up US companies for a song these days. I just helped a French holding leave to another country. Thank the socialists and their love of taxing private enterprises into the ground for running them out of there.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at May 04, 2016 08:28 AM (Zqv3+)

96 But if anyone thinks Donald Trump is going to reverse or attempt to

reverse the damage of the past 8 to 50 years, they're delusional.

I have over 19 trillion reasons why NO elected official is going to achieve that goal.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:28 AM (Gwldq)

97 Can we load the Clinton Cartel up on a SpaceX module and blast them to political oblivion?

Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 08:28 AM (UzPAd)

98 So very very boned.

Posted by: Grump928(C) French model at May 04, 2016 08:28 AM (rwI+c)

99 >>>>This is such a weak argument that I am starting to automatically discard
it. The only way a person not voting for Trump would help Hillary is if
that person was the tie-breaker in their state's election, AND their
state's electoral votes were the deciding factor.

For instance, not voting for Trump in Texas is not going to put Hillary over the top.
.
.
.
.That is not a weak argument. Voters staying home cost probably cost Romney the 2012 election. 2.5 million less Republican votes cast than in 2008.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 08:29 AM (iONHu)

100 92 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:27 AM (p4UlV)

"Platform shaping" costs money, and oddly enough Cruz is not getting the backing of the GOP money folk... evidently they are tres okay with Duh Donald or gonna be "Ready for HILLARY!"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:29 AM (g8Hfr)

101 The only reason I'm upset Cruz suspended his campaign was that he loses
the clout to help shape the party platform for the next 4 years.

I don't know, JJ.

Ryan did okay for himself.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:29 AM (Gwldq)

102 "Ricardo, do I recall correctly that this was a sleep clinic thing?"

Yes. The determined that he does in fact quit breathing for periods at night. That wakes him up. He can't tell dream from reality. Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:29 AM (9ym/8)

103 @MarcusT-If the never trump lunacy is anything like the lunacy of his supporters, I imagine it must be really bad.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 08:29 AM (wnwJC)

104 So, who do we think Trump is going to pick for his VP?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2016 08:30 AM (KUaJL)

105 But, we got "Smokey and the Bandit" on the TV this morning so that helps some.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:30 AM (9ym/8)

106 90 >>Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:23 AM (p4UlV)

At least you are thinking rationally and making an intelligent decision. I have my doubts about Trump as well, but there are hopeful signs he will at least stem the tide of what has been going on. There is real potential to start rolling back some of the overreach. But I'll check my fire on that one.

You have to see some of the nevertrump lunacy this morning.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 08:27 AM (O0lVq)

My friend, I see absolutely no sign whatsoever that he's going to stem anything. His immigration stance and the wall nonsense is just that. The plan is every bit as much Amnesty as that of Mario Dondi's.

He has no concept of how to govern as a co-equal as opposed to a dictator/owner and not the foggiest idea of the Constitution and limited government.

This is going to end in tears. Unless there is a shit ton of blood and sweat to hold his ass accountable every second of every day he's in office.

That is IF he beats Hilary.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:30 AM (p4UlV)

107 Gosh, Ricardo, your poor dad. Now that they've determined that, is there something they can do for him? I sure hope so.

Posted by: bluebell at May 04, 2016 08:30 AM (2WwbN)

108 83 @70 "well that seems like good thinking. The best part I think is that the people who say they won't vote for Trump or like ace say they'll vote for Hillary is that they say "see you stupid people you just elected Hillary!"

Ace believes the polls.

Even when you point out that a particular poll is modeled on numbers from previous races where everything is different, he points to them like they're accurate to within .01%.

Weeks ago, the polls showed Hillary beating Trump. Now the polls are starting to shift.

Maybe he'll come around and continue to believe the polls, even if they are in Trump's favor.

We can only hope.

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 08:30 AM (Zs4uk)

109 Gosh, I remember how....just a few short days ago, on this very blog...Trump supporters were the ones that were being called inflexible, and would refuse to vote for a non-Trump GOP candidate. Good times, eh?

President Hillary Clinton. Get used to saying it, reading it, and hearing it.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 08:30 AM (vRKfn)

110 Shame Cruz didn't make it, but I had a gut feeling who wouldn't. The country is angry and it is going to be a long and ugly campaign through November.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at May 04, 2016 08:31 AM (Zqv3+)

111 Yep. Since we're stuck with what we're stuck with, we need to make it politically expedient for the wrong man to do the right thing.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 04, 2016 08:19 AM (J+mig)

We should do that for all people in govt.

Maybe we can with Trump.

Because it's obvious we can't with Ryan, Boehner, Hillary (still unindited), etc etc

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:31 AM (nbrY/)

112 Mornin' Horde. What a beautiful, gorgeous spring day in Upstate SC this morning. I have to say, after yesterday with Ted dropping out and witnessing the stark-raving idiocy of Donald Trump's insults and consipiracies, I'm strangely at peace. Maybe it's just been a building sense (or realization) that we're on a path we obviously can't change, but I don't have the despair I felt when TFG was elected or worse, reelected in '12. I truly realize we are a nation of fools and, I guess, until we wallow in what we've wrought in a hard enough sense, this ship isn't turning around anytime soon. Or ever. I loved my country, but it has been transformed. America 2.0 sucks. I give Donald Trump a 1% chance at winning the general and a 1% chance at being, at best, a sane president who will do this country some good.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 04, 2016 08:31 AM (+FSld)

113 The only reason I'm upset Cruz suspended his
campaign was that he loses the clout to help shape the party platform
for the next 4 years. Not that the party actually follows it let alone
has one, but you do lose clout in that regard. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:27 AM (p4UlV)
=====

Cruz is still in the Senate and now has national clout. Who could ever have imagined that he went this far and did this well? He's a young man and will have hopefully a lot more years to contribute.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 08:31 AM (MIKMs)

114
And how many still believe that he's going to win any of the states he swept in the northeast two weeks ago?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:32 AM (p4UlV)

115 So here are some of the "alternatives" being floated by so-called "conservatives";

1- Elect Hillary. Because then we will really get a conservative Republican next time. You know, because I guess Cruz wasn't conservative enough. And that's if there is anything left of our democracy.

2- Start a new party. Because we've never heard that one before.

3- Sit home because you're "principled". Yeah, see #1

4- Work against Trump. Because "Trump University or something unintelligible. Again, see #1.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 08:32 AM (O0lVq)

116 110 Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at May 04, 2016 08:31 AM (Zqv3+)

Yup...

Barney-bots will vote for She-Hag...

Donks would vote for Joseph Stalin if he had a (-d)...

this drama is why we lose.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:32 AM (g8Hfr)

117 113 Cruz is still in the Senate and now has national clout. Who could ever have imagined that he went this far and did this well? He's a young man and will have hopefully a lot more years to contribute.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 08:31 AM (MIKMs)

Your optimism presupposes an America left for him to contribute to.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:33 AM (p4UlV)

118
I'm done. Have fun. Enjoy life. While you still can.

Later.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:33 AM (p4UlV)

119 So now Trump is the titular head of a Party that has no idea what he's all about. Every day should be an adventure from here on out. I'm curious to see how he strategizes in deep Blue States like MA, where record numbers of primary voters switched to the Republican Party in order to nominate him.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (2cS/G)

120 It isn't over until Donald Trump nominates Terry Crews to be his VP running mate.

Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (UzPAd)

121 114 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:32 AM (p4UlV)

I remember Mitt Romney and Juan McCain flipping blue states....

well no not really.

Look I get it, no really I do.

The left are a monolith of retards and we are a herd of cats.

Retard Strength trumps Smaht Powah every time.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (g8Hfr)

122 Your optimism presupposes an America left for him to contribute to.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:33 AM (p4UlV)

Silver lining: As neither party is particularly fond of Trump, maybe congress might start exercising some of their checks on the executive branch for a change.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (vRKfn)

123 All the butt hurt folks that are saying "congrats you just elected Hillary" should reserve their ire for people who are actually, you know, voting for Hillary.

And also, if you are angry at Trump voters for destroying the party, you should reserve that anger for the people who think that actively undermining the nominee is smart politics.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (2Ocf1)

124 Because it's obvious we can't with Ryan, Boehner, Hillary (still unindited), etc etc

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:31 AM (nbrY/)

At this point, it's pretty much better the devil we don't know. There's always an exception to every rule. When the devils you do know offer nothing but your destruction with rapid and gleeful abandon, you have little if nothing to lose.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 04, 2016 08:35 AM (J+mig)

125 120 Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (UzPAd)

Feature not a bug, America gets what it deserves.

Donald-o has electrolytes.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:35 AM (g8Hfr)

126 That is not a weak argument. Voters staying home
cost probably cost Romney the 2012 election. 2.5 million less Republican
votes cast than in 2008.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 08:29 AM (iONHu)
===========================================

So Trump better convince an additional 2.6 million voters to fill out their ballot for him. If I am not one of them, that is statistically insignificant. I doubt that Wisconsin is going to result in a dead-even tie. I doubt that it will come down to a margin of one vote. I doubt that my single solitary vote, or lack thereof, will hand the election to Hillary.

If you want to make a persuasive argument on Trump's policies, I am willing to listen. So far all I have heard is "He's not Hillary" and "You're a traitor to your country if you don't vote for Trump". That is not a persuasive argument for me.

Like I said, I am keeping an open mind till November.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:35 AM (dFi94)

127 My prediction: Obama tells Lynch to indict Hillary right before the convention. Joe Biden parachutes in and takes over, to the applause of the multitudes. Trump and Slow Joe have a debate so insanely unpresidential that their respective headpieces jump off their respective pates and attack their owners. America loses, after much hilarity. First time as tragedy, second time as farce.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 08:36 AM (3hIZX)

128 And Kasich?

Looks like
even more of a moron now.

Everybody else at the prom has gone home.

He's still on the dance floor dancing by himself.

People are just
staring at him now, laughing.

Posted by: undocumented CIA Lives Matter at May 04, 2016 08:36 AM (e8kgV)

129 123 Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (2Ocf1)

Quite,it tells me a lot that EVERYONE was expected to chuck their morals and wariness and coalesce around Juan Queeg...

I loathe Duh Donald and I loathe him less on a personal level than McCain...

I was in deep money wise with McCain in a way I won't be with Trump.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:36 AM (g8Hfr)

130 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM (3MozY)

Losing a job is devastating - but sometimes it's an opportunity...

If there is any possibility whatsoever, try to work for yourself. In the beginning, you'll work harder and longer than you've ever worked before and most likely make less money, but it's worth it.

Yes, it's scary making the commitment, but it's fun too.

Whatever you decide, good luck.

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 08:37 AM (Zs4uk)

131 The R' s are down.

The D's are down.

It's like Rocky.

Who will get on their feet first?

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:37 AM (Gwldq)

132 "Now that they've determined that, is there something they can do for him? "

Apparently they're going to make him some sort of mask.

???

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:37 AM (9ym/8)

133 127 Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 08:36 AM (3hIZX)

Heh, Lez Warren IMHO....

Lie-a-watha will canoe over waters.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:37 AM (g8Hfr)

134
All the butt hurt folks that are saying "congrats you just elected
Hillary" should reserve their ire for people who are actually, you know,
voting for Hillary.

And also, if you are angry at Trump voters for destroying the party,
you should reserve that anger for the people who think that actively
undermining the nominee is smart politics.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:34 AM (2Ocf1)

Conservatives have no nominee... both of the socialists (crony or otherwise) need to be undermined.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 08:38 AM (nUJM6)

135 >>Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 04, 2016 08:30 AM (p4UlV)
<<

Understood and we'll just have to disagree for now. I think Trump is bombastic but he's ultimately a practical person. To satiate his ego, I suspect he will want to please a fair degree of our electorate. Obviously that can be good and bad. Ultimately, I want to believe he will want to deliver for voters on what he is stating. He's obviously a bit of an enigma. But that can work to our advantage.

I am a little sick of watching my friends and neighbors lose their jobs and get hurt financially. What I do know is if anyone can best fix that it's him, not that Lying, dishonest, socialist, autocratic Hag

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 08:38 AM (O0lVq)

136 No! No!

I'm gonna take my ball!

And go home!

Then you'll be sorry!

Posted by: Phone of kari at May 04, 2016 08:38 AM (4VW10)

137 Teh Donald is going to get Juan Valdez McCained so bad by the media.

Posted by: Dude in MI at May 04, 2016 08:39 AM (0LQ4f)

138 "Apparently they're going to make him some sort of mask. "

You didn't tell us that he was biting the Nurses.

Oh....

Different type of mask?

Never mind.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2016 08:40 AM (ptqRm)

139 I'm gonna go eat worms.

Conservative worms!

Posted by: Phone of kari at May 04, 2016 08:40 AM (4VW10)

140 No with the primaries over we can muse about Trumps VP pick and cabinet.

VP: Tom Cotton
DHS: Rudy Giulini
HHS: Ben Carson
Attorney General: Chris Chrisite
Fed: Herman Cain.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 04, 2016 08:40 AM (JKxE7)

141 137 Posted by: Dude in MI at May 04, 2016 08:39 AM (0LQ4f)

Which I pointed out to the Trump fans on Twatter before my fade there and largely here.

They LIKE it when Lucy yanks the football.

In the end too many on our side STILL refuse to face the real enemy.

The media needs decimated.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:41 AM (g8Hfr)

142 GOP styrofoam columns.

Posted by: GOP Styrofoam Columns at May 04, 2016 08:41 AM (eHpnh)

143

I'm here for you.

Posted by: Preparation H at May 04, 2016 08:41 AM (Gwldq)

144 And also, if you are angry at Trump voters for destroying the party,you should reserve that anger for the people who think that actively undermining the nominee is smart politics.

And who promise the moon and stab you in the back once the votes are counted.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 08:41 AM (cWLG9)

145 "The GOP needs to be destroyed!"

does anyone disagree? lost to obama - twice ! culling is needed

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (c6/9Q)

146 I also think it's funny that people are now saying "the press is going to be very critical of Trump" as if they wouldn't savage any Republican candidate.

I like Cruz. I voted for him in my states primary. But honestly the press wold maul him. Because that's what they do.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (2Ocf1)

147 Does anybody believe the media would go anyway easier on Ted Cruz?

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (B48dK)

148
Everyone is still sniffing and rubbing their owies, wanting revenge for the mean words icky people threw at them weeks and months ago.

===

It is NOT over.

Kasich is still in the running.

/straightface

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (3ZtZW)

149 "Obama tells Lynch to indict Hillary right before the convention. Joe Biden parachutes in and takes over..."

I believe this too, but not Biden.

The democrats are pissed off that they didn't see that they could run a celebrity instead of a politician. They're the party of celebrities.

Biden has a lot of baggage and there are many miles of video footage of him being an idiot.

The democrats will want to go nuclear and make George Clooney their candidate.

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (Zs4uk)

150 142 Posted by: GOP Styrofoam Columns at May 04, 2016 08:41 AM (eHpnh)

Now if we can just get Duh Donald to openly mock Urkle by telling the Goreons...

"NOW is when we can look back and say THERE was when the rising oceans receded"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (g8Hfr)

151 The media needs decimated.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:41 AM (g8Hfr)

10% isn't enough. Replace decima with annihila.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (J+mig)

152 Good morning Morons!

For those of you on the Trump train drinking Trump vodka martinis, I wish you well! I'm not taking this particular journey, but enjoy your trip

In polling news there are no new polls in the RCP average but an old poll did drop out. This tightens the average a little bringing Clinton's lead to only 6.2%.

I've been taking the polls long enough to see some trends. Trump's support has been remarkably static, varying from a low of 38.8% to his current high of 40.5%. The variability in polling is all from Hillary's numbers where she had fluctuated between 46ish% and 50ish% in the average.

For Trump to win he needs to move up off of that 40% mark. My argument remains that he can't build his support by tearing down hers. I think she is already at the lowest point she can get and would still win if the election was held today.

We will see what his plan is to build his support, but reports are he is still far behind in building his campaign, so is likely to be busy for awhile. The good news is that Clinton still has to deal with Bernie, so she is busy too.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 04, 2016 08:43 AM (s/E5s)

153 Overnight, I caught a skunk in a live trap out for squirrels, and am researching ways to remove said skunk on YouTube. YouTube results:

1. How to get a skunk out of a trap without getting sprayed
2. Skunk Trapping and removing essence
3. President Obama Speaks at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner
4. Getting rid of skunks naturally

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 04, 2016 08:43 AM (OF/aZ)

154 Many times I've mentioned, for example, the comments section at Breitbart as shrill and overemotional examples of the support for Donald Trump. Looking at Red State last night and surveying the landscape today, I see the #NeverTrump crowd engaging in a level of hysterics that almost makes the dummies at Breitbart pale in comparison.

So much for the party of logic and reason.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (4ErVI)

155 151 Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 04, 2016 08:42 AM (J+mig)

I am generous b/c my true level of ire would get me banned.

Too many GOPers think if they are just that last inch nice to the donks with bylines they'll change.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (g8Hfr)

156 So Trump better convince an additional 2.6 million
voters to fill out their ballot for him. If I am not one of them, that
is statistically insignificant. I doubt that Wisconsin is going to
result in a dead-even tie. I doubt that it will come down to a margin of
one vote. I doubt that my single solitary vote, or lack thereof, will
hand the election to Hillary.

If you want to make a
persuasive argument on Trump's policies, I am willing to listen. So far
all I have heard is "He's not Hillary" and "You're a traitor to your
country if you don't vote for Trump". That is not a persuasive argument
for me.

Like I said, I am keeping an open mind till November.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:35 AM (dFi94)

Trumps policies include support for partial birth abortion, socialized medicine and ruinous economic protectionism and kleptocracy. There is no amount of explaining that makes him any better option than Hillary (who I also won't vote for).

And that is not even touching on Trump's vile lies and poor character during this campaign (and the rest of his life).

Anyone who supports someone like Trump deserves exactly what they get (no matter who wins... it is a near certainty that our Republic is done for).

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (nUJM6)

157 140 No with the primaries over we can muse about Trumps VP pick and cabinet.

VP: Tom Cotton
DHS: Rudy Giulini
HHS: Ben Carson
Attorney General: Chris Chrisite
Fed: Herman Cain.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 04, 2016 08:40 AM (JKxE7)

---

WH Press Sec: Milo (not really but I can dream)

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (nbrY/)

158 It would be a huge understatement say that I'm disappointed with whom the Republicans chose as their nominee.

I'm sure that I'll suck it and vote for him, but it won't be easy.

I understand the sentiment behind supporting Trump. I just think that should he win, those who think they are sticking it to the man are going to find out they're the man.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (6bmev)

159 I also think it's funny that people are now saying "the press is going to be very critical of Trump" as if they wouldn't savage any Republican candidate.

They've been calling him Hitler for six months.

Even Fox came right out of the box with the long knives.

To go much further from here they'll have to go to Ludicrous Speed.

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 08:46 AM (uz/Pv)

160 Trump strikes me as Obama, v 2.0. Despite that I want to acknowledge one difference and that is he likes the Rolling Stones. Yes, they're elderly but then so is Trump. Last night he used "Start Me Up" as his entrance theme song to his victory party. One of my friends son was there and greatly enjoyed the free food and drinks, and I enjoyed the story.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 08:46 AM (/m8T6)

161 "The GOP needs to be destroyed!"
================================

So, if the GOP needs to be destroyed, how as a practical matter do you get the GOP nominee elected? All that takes a lot of GOP effort, time, and money at the state and local level. If the structure is smashed, and the Republicans are dispersed, how does that translate into a GOP Presidential win?

Honest question. I used to work at the county level. (Now I am no longer a Republican.) But I've seen a little bit of what it takes to win an election. And it's not a bunch of free spirits just winging it.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:46 AM (dFi94)

162 So how many discussions on actual policies were there during this primary...what a shit show campaign...know who won? The media

Posted by: Dude in MI at May 04, 2016 08:46 AM (0LQ4f)

163 WH Press Sec: Milo (not really but I can dream)

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (nbrY/)

That would be worth it.

F all of the rest of the noise, can I vote for that?

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 04, 2016 08:46 AM (J+mig)

164 "1. How to get a skunk out of a trap without getting sprayed"

You may be down to air gun/.22.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:46 AM (9ym/8)

165 If Trump rolls over on his back and shows his belly like McCain and Romney did, the Great American Experiment is over, finite...

Posted by: Taqyia2Me at May 04, 2016 08:46 AM (sJuKe)

166 So much for the party of logic and reason.

Well, Donald Trump is not a logical nor reasonable candidate.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:47 AM (PFy0L)

167 158 Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (6bmev)

One nice thing about Duh Donald is he will screw us in every way possible.

He'll happily raise taxes, he will happily gut defense, he will reach around across the aisle on nominees....

"getting things done"...

yeah like I said about "hope and change"....

"change is not inherently a good thing fellas"

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:47 AM (g8Hfr)

168 Get it through your heads Trumpsters, most of us are not weeping over the GOP. I know it's impossible for you guys to stop projecting. Not everybody here at AoS are GOPe.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 08:47 AM (wnwJC)

169 Looking forward to SpaceX launch will be 1021 pm my time. Hope it doesnt crash. Slow it down!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 08:47 AM (iQIUe)

170 So here are some of the "alternatives" being floated by so-called "conservatives";

1- Elect Hillary. Because then we will really get a conservative Republican next time. You know, because I guess Cruz wasn't conservative enough. And that's if there is anything left of our democracy.

2- Start a new party. Because we've never heard that one before.

3- Sit home because you're "principled". Yeah, see #1

4- Work against Trump. Because "Trump University or something unintelligible. Again, see #1.

=====

I call em the Secret Masters of Freedom. Never defeated, a leaderless Society of Your Betters Who Work Tirelessly for Your Benefit.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 08:48 AM (3ZtZW)

171 "To go much further from here they'll have to go to Ludicrous Speed."

There's always Plaid.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:48 AM (9ym/8)

172 Well, Donald Trump is not a logical nor reasonable candidate.

Which of course justifies behaving ..something something....

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:48 AM (Gwldq)

173 156 Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (nUJM6)

It's funny that the ACELA corridor GOPers hate the guy given he is carrying their policy water is it not?

I always figured Allah Pundit and even Ace would be thrilled with a post Pro-Life candidate.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:48 AM (g8Hfr)

174 >>Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (nUJM6)
<<

I spent a good portion of last nigh reading his positions, papers and comments. I am not finding any of that. But that's just me.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 08:49 AM (O0lVq)

175 168
Get it through your heads Trumpsters, most of us are not weeping over
the GOP. I know it's impossible for you guys to stop projecting.

Persuasive.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:49 AM (Gwldq)

176 Except for a couple of votes for Libertarians in my misspent youth, I've always voted for Republicans.

I will not vote for another Republican. Ever.

It's time for me to get up to speed on third-party alternatives.

Or, just say fuck it and accept our doom.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 08:50 AM (eHpnh)

177 The George Wills etc who think that What Must Be done is actively work to support Hilkary to teach those dumb voters a lesson have no idea just how dumb they sound.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:50 AM (2Ocf1)

178 Trump has a very narrow chance of winning this election, absent an FBI intervention to save our asses. He has to win Florida, and that's an absolute must. Without Florida he is toast. He also has to win one of Pennsylvania, Ohio or Michigan (assuming he has no chance at all to win New York, which should be obvious). Plus Virginia.

I don't think he gets even close, but he is a talented campaigner so we will see. Mostly, I'm praying for the FBI primary to be a real thing.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 08:50 AM (/m8T6)

179 @redbanzai-You are a better person than me.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 08:50 AM (wnwJC)

180 The sad fact is, our Republic was lost many years ago.
Early 1900's is when the effort really took off.
By the 1930's it was all over but the crying.
Go look up the Reece report from 1954, then read the book Foundations their power and influence published in 1958.
Names that pop up over and over again in our demise Rockefeller, Carnegie, Ford, Guggenheimer to name a few.
Both
sides of the aisle squashed the Reece committee all the way back in
1954. The powers that be were already entrenched in the government and
they have been entrenched ever since.
Sadly there will be no change in direction for the country, it wont be allowed.
Both parties are responsible for this mess we are in.

Posted by: MarkC at May 04, 2016 08:50 AM (iWFQR)

181 174 I spent a good portion of last nigh reading his positions, papers and comments. I am not finding any of that. But that's just me.
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Well, then, you're one-up on Trump himself.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (/m8T6)

182 low bar

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (Gwldq)

183 I bet Trumps pants are really pressed well.

Could be an opening to win Brooks over.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (2Ocf1)

184 Maybe if we all sang kumbaya and joined hands then we could shake off all the insults and meanness of the primaries!

No, huh. Well, then back to bile and insults.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (3hIZX)

185 "Plus Virginia."

Oddly enough, I'm more worried about Virginny than Ohio or Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (9ym/8)

186 If you want to make a persuasive argument on Trump's policies, I am willing to listen.

--

Grammie, for it has always been about the quality of his enemies.
It started when Macys tried to punish him because the media didnt like him talking about Mexicans. The more the media and the Jeb types wailed and stomped their feet the more I sided with Trump. The violent protests were the ultimate argument for him by the time my primary rolled around.

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (nbrY/)

187 The Rain has has stopped and the Sun is out.

The Great Outdoors beckons.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Waiting but not anticipating. at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (WVsWD)

188 So how many discussions on actual policies were there during this primary...what a shit show campaign...know who won? The media

--

Well, we did find out that Trump has big hands and hasn't had any complaints. What more do you people want?! /s

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 04, 2016 08:52 AM (+FSld)

189 I was hoping there would be a cease fire here at th HQ once there was a nominee.Doesn't look like it is going to happen.

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 08:52 AM (B48dK)

190 183 Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (2Ocf1)

Trump should troll the media by using Ogabe's rhetorical flourishes lock stock and barrel...

"Uh er Government is not the problem and all civil servants are uh uh vital"

fuck it it is not like we can avoid the icebergs coming anyway.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:52 AM (g8Hfr)

191 The masks, they fall.

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 08:52 AM (MQEz6)

192 Bears repeating:

On this day in 1979, Mrs Margaret Thatcher was first elected as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

This means today is an auspicious day! Enjoy it! Personally, I plan to win PB, tho I would be satisfied to win the state lottery of a measly 20 mil, too. SpaceX will land upright and tomorrow Londoners will come to their senses and not vote in a muslim terrorist loving mayor.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 08:52 AM (iQIUe)

193 >>I will not vote for another Republican. Ever.

Please don't ever move to my state. Thank you. Quite frankly I like my state GOP. The bozos in D.C. are that, bozos. But my state & local guys/gals are doing a fine job after years of Donkey rule

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 08:53 AM (voOPb)

194 Trump can win Florida. And with NJ (no, seriously) and PA he just needs 1 more EV, assuming he also carries every Romney state.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:53 AM (2Ocf1)

195 Which of course justifies behaving ..something something....

You vote your way, I vote mine. I played my last "vote for X because Y is worse" game with Romney. Trump does not inspire me to vote for him.

Besides, this election is going to be a mudfest. Candidates with crappy favorable ratings don't try to elevate themselves...they try to bring the other candidate down further (hence Trump's bizarre rant about Ted Cruz's father). With two candidates who have favorable ratings in the toilet, well, I am not going to waste my time with it and I refuse to have some random poster's snark factor into that decision.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:53 AM (PFy0L)

196 Ashe Carter's been drinking again. Yet another surprise.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 08:53 AM (4ng05)

197 189 Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 08:52 AM (B48dK)

No chance...

we finally get the ultimate expression of post "evil so-con" GOPer imaginable and the usual suspects who hate Tard Akin are still unsatisfied...

maybe if we nominate zombie Leon Trotsky.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:54 AM (g8Hfr)

198 Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 04, 2016 08:43 AM (OF/aZ)
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Oh, that made me laugh! Although I am sorry for you with having to figure out how to get that skunk out of there. I think I'd call some skunk-be-gone place if I were you.

And with that, I'm out, everyone. Have a good one.

Posted by: bluebell at May 04, 2016 08:54 AM (2WwbN)

199 " I was hoping there would be a cease fire here at th HQ once there was a nominee.Doesn't look like it is going to happen."

No guns out for friendlies. And we need to recognize the friendlies. Hang together.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:54 AM (9ym/8)

200 I "feel like" Hillary Clinton is a criminal

Posted by: unlawful attorney at May 04, 2016 08:54 AM (e8kgV)

201 Grammie, for it has always been about the quality of his enemies.

It started when Macys tried to punish him because the media didnt
like him talking about Mexicans. The more the media and the Jeb types
wailed and stomped their feet the more I sided with Trump. The violent
protests were the ultimate argument for him by the time my primary
rolled around.

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:51 AM (nbrY/)

I think this is going to work in Trump's favor in the general. The 'protests' we've seen so far are going to be mild compared to what's coming. The left, the SJW's, the BLM'ers that spray kids with tear gas...they're going to get Trump elected.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 08:54 AM (vRKfn)

202
Besides, this election is going to be a mudfest. Candidates with
crappy favorable ratings don't try to elevate themselves...they try to
bring the other candidate down further

Yet another new twist in American politics.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 08:55 AM (Gwldq)

203 I "feel like" Donald Trump is mentally impaired

Posted by: unlawful doctor at May 04, 2016 08:55 AM (e8kgV)

204 "The Great Outdoors beckons."

What you got planned?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:55 AM (9ym/8)

205 196 Ashe Carter's been drinking again. Yet another surprise.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 08:53 AM (4ng05)

This should scare us. Ashe Carter is the only adult non-Muslim on the foreign policy side. If he's in his cups, nobody is minding the store.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (3hIZX)

206 I read the above middle headline as:

State of WA supervillain of mental hospital patients is just crazy

Thought "Oooo!!!" and clicked it.

Man, was I disappointed.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (oU3Bb)

207 Is what I heard about the convention true?

They'll be handing out big red noses and floppy shoes to all of the delegates?

Great idea. And here I thought Pantsed Numbnuts was an idiot. Just goes to show, I guess.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (4ng05)

208 WH Press Sec: Milo (not really but I can dream) Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (nbrY/)
=====

WH Press Sec Pecker. Earnest to Pecker. Every morning DT would read the NE headlines for the 'little people'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (MIKMs)

209 Looks like another Trump/Cruz flame war brewing even after Cruz has dropped out. How about everybody flame on Kashit who refuses to drop out despite losing at every turn?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (vvmPQ)

210 201 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 08:54 AM (vRKfn)

I am indifferent to "victory" come the fall anyway....

the butcher's bill on 2.3 billion a day in deficit spending *will* come due in the next 8 years...

if we *win* we will be the person the idiot LIV nation blames.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (g8Hfr)

211 The thing about Trump is I followed him from Day One. Read every word he said that was reported. 'Early Trump' hit every one of my hot buttons. Then 'Middle Trump' emerged and made me cringe -- but he mowed his opponents down one by one.

So now we enter 'Late Trump' stage. I hope he returns to his 'Early Trump' messages, while using his 'Middle Trump' methods to annihilate Hillary Clinton, once and for all.

I was down in Vics neighborhood the past couple days visiting son, telling son the 'Early Trump' message. His response was, 'Why didn't I ever hear that? ' He understood why I can support Trump, while still cringing from time to time.

Posted by: ugg wigs at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (ZnIt3)

212 Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:53 AM (2Ocf1)
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I live in New Jersey. I'm involved in politics here. He has literally zero chance of winning New Jersey. None. Nada. Get it out of your head: the NYC and Philly metro population centers are entirely Democrat.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (/m8T6)

213 189 I was hoping there would be a cease fire here at th HQ once there was a nominee.Doesn't look like it is going to happen.
Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 08:52 AM (B48dK)
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I'm ready:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksMydLGN1oc

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 08:57 AM (iQIUe)

214 Virginia. Don't worry about it. It is lost. McAuliffe is a corrupt Clinton bag man and is the governor. Virginia is voting for Hillary regardless.

Win. Florida NJ PA and NV. Win.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 08:57 AM (2Ocf1)

215 I "feel like" Barack Obama is a white guy who is dark .. because shit

Posted by: unlawful alien at May 04, 2016 08:57 AM (e8kgV)

216 I haven't looked forward to voting against someone so much in my life. I'm talking about Hillary. Carter was close.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 08:57 AM (nFwvY)

217 PAX VOBISCUITS, you bastards.

Posted by: Saint Timony of Urrrghh at May 04, 2016 08:58 AM (CUk0C)

218 Don't know if it's irony or coincidence that GOP/Nationalist/Populist/Agrarians are using the same argument that you must vote for their guy, you know the lesser of two evils shit that we've heard from the GOPe for the last 30 years. Kind of funny.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 08:58 AM (wnwJC)

219 What you got planned?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 08:55 AM (9ym/

Bike Ride with the Kids. Some time at the Park playing.

Maybe even break loose with some off the 22lr and do some target shooting.

Oh and pretend that my part of Illinois just got annexed by the Republic of Texas.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Waiting but not anticipating. at May 04, 2016 08:58 AM (WVsWD)

220 216 Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 08:57 AM (nFwvY)

If one can't work up a frothing rage over Hillary, might I suggest said person is not really an American traditionalist?

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 08:59 AM (g8Hfr)

221 What a bunch of suckers y'all are!

We sold "severly conservative" McCain and Romney (and other non-POTUS candidates) to you, and you still voted for them, even after we called you Tea-tards and wacko-birds.

We tried to sell our boy !Jeb! to you, but you got by that one.....granted.

Then, you monkeys thought we'd actually allow nutty Cruz be our candidate after he dispatched Nazi Trump to Hades, which he and you FAILED in the one job you had.

And if you think we're gonna be in the hurts with you peasants when our DNC buddies run the table in November due to basketcase Trump, THINK.AGAIN. We'll be gathering up YUUUUGE consulting fees on how to "rebuild" the Party for at least a decade. And that's what it was always about......

Posted by: RNC/GOPe at May 04, 2016 08:59 AM (lmPMy)

222 Another interesting rumor:

All of Trump's cabinet appointees will be either Victoria's Secret models or Miss Universe finalists.

Things are definitely looking up.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 08:59 AM (4ng05)

223 I "feel like" Joe Biden farts when you pull on his thumb

Posted by: unlawful clown at May 04, 2016 08:59 AM (e8kgV)

224 I could use some prayers for a major career decision coming shortly.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM (Qvgg/)

225 "I live in New Jersey. I'm involved in politics here. He has literally zero chance of winning New Jersey. None. Nada. Get it out of your head: the NYC and Philly metro population centers are entirely Democrat. "

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (/m8T6)

Let's wait and see how the Hillary/Bernie thing shakes out.

If the Bernie voters get totally fucked at the convention, they might be butthurt enough to stay home or vote Trump, just to show the other side how mad they are.

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM (Zs4uk)

226 I live in New Jersey. I'm involved in politics
here. He has literally zero chance of winning New Jersey. None. Nada.
Get it out of your head: the NYC and Philly metro population centers
are entirely Democrat.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (/m8T6)

Unpossible...record numbers of democrats voted for Trump or something

Posted by: Dude in MI at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM (0LQ4f)

227 221 Posted by: RNC/GOPe at May 04, 2016 08:59 AM (lmPMy)

"severely conservative Duh Donald"...

yeah no really I thought having the Orange Goblin from Ohio out how much he liked Duh Donald was a perfect move.

This cycle you have the teatards begging to go establishment.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM (g8Hfr)

228 210 201 Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 08:54 AM (vRKfn)

I am indifferent to "victory" come the fall anyway....

the butcher's bill on 2.3 billion a day in deficit spending *will* come due in the next 8 years...

if we *win* we will be the person the idiot LIV nation blames.

That's what I was trying to say yesterday. We aren't voting our way out of this mess.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:01 AM (cWLG9)

229 Well, we had an election that qas a gimmie, and decided to give it to a guy who:

1. Is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist
2. Is in the middle of a lawsuit for fraud
3. Has been married 3 times and bragged about sleeping with married women
4. Doesn't appear to believe in cutting the size of government
5. Feels about as strongly about abortion as what he's watching on Cable tonight
6. Is ignorant about basic aspects of government and world affairs
7. Loses to Hillary by the high single digits at minimum

Awesome

Posted by: AD at May 04, 2016 09:01 AM (ssJfs)

230 I can't blame hard core Cruz supporters for being pissed off, bitter, and such. Hell ... Last nite I was openly contemplating if Fascism wouldn't be an improvement over this current mess.

Gotta' give Ted major, major kudos for stepping down ... and laying a great big turd on the GOPe plans.

So I guess the big question is ... can Donald actually fake some level of sanity going forward ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:01 AM (8v0G6)

231 The Brazil Sex Theme Park idea is right up there with the dumbest business ideas I've ever heard.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:01 AM (/m8T6)

232 Skunks love em some marshmallows.

Put a rug over the cage and get him to sleep. Transport the cage. Put a bunch of marshmallows piled up wherever you want him to get out at. Open the cage door carefully, leaving the cover on so its still peaceful. Walk away.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 09:02 AM (3ZtZW)

233 Don't know if it's irony or coincidence that
GOP/Nationalist/Populist/Agrarians are using the same argument that you
must vote for their guy, you know the lesser of two evils shit that
we've heard from the GOPe for the last 30 years. Kind of funny.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 08:58 AM (wnwJC)

Had Cruz won the nom, the results would be exactly the same, with his supporters advising everyone to vote for him, because Hillary.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 09:02 AM (vRKfn)

234 I saw one site on my search this morning that said that exit polls for IN said fully 1/3 of the Bernie voters said they would stay at home rather than vote for Scankles.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:02 AM (vvmPQ)

235 Lots of deals on .22 on the internet yesterday and today.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2016 09:02 AM (ptqRm)

236 @222 seriously probably work better than what we've got now.

Hillary would fill the Cabinet 50% with butch academics who hate America.

Not seeing the downside of 100% women cabinet if they are VS models.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 09:02 AM (2Ocf1)

237 225 Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM (Zs4uk)

Not. Going. To. Happen.

Democrat voters would vote in Hitler happily to screw the GOP.

97.5% of Barney-bots pull for Grammy H or vice versa....

the right DESRVES to lose b/c we refuse to coalesce even when we know the left will.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:03 AM (g8Hfr)

238 This should scare us. Ashe Carter is the only adult non-Muslim on the foreign policy side. If he's in his cups, nobody is minding the store.
Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (3hIZX)

The guy has been flirting with the DT's since he was appointed. I think one of the conditions of employment in the SCOAMT administration is either the appointee has to be addled by substance abuse or must have an IQ lower than half their age.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:03 AM (4ng05)

239 In before all the Trump and butthu-

*looks upthread*

Oh...

*whistles*

*looks out window*

Oooh, look. A squirrel!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 09:03 AM (oU3Bb)

240 I do find the idea of Milo as Press Secretary to be very intriguing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2016 09:03 AM (ptqRm)

241
I could use some prayers for a major career decision coming shortly.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM (Qvgg/)
============================================

That I can do.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:04 AM (dFi94)

242 Well, we had an election that qas a gimmie, and decided to give it to a guy who:

Where were you for the last 8 years? The last two elections were gimmies.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (cWLG9)

243 @209 Vic- Cruz is gone. He doesn't matter. I will remind Trumpsters of all the shit they spewed about my chosen political philosophy. Now they want to stand together with conservatives that have stood in their way and sing kumbuya (however it's spelled). The GOP was merely a vehicle, at this point, to hopefully advance my views, that's it. Hasn't been my "party" since 1996, and clearly is not my party now.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (wnwJC)

244 240 I do find the idea of Milo as Press Secretary to be very intriguing.

That would be a hoot.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (Ht/4p)

245 "Bike Ride with the Kids. Some time at the Park playing.

Maybe even break loose with some off the 22lr and do some target shooting.

Oh and pretend that my part of Illinois just got annexed by the Republic of Texas. "

Have fun.

We'd take everything south of Cook County too. Moron country.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (9ym/8)

246 240 I do find the idea of Milo as Press Secretary to be very intriguing.

Crowder.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (cWLG9)

247 Washington (CNN) - President Barack Obama has a message for Donald Trump being president is tougher than being on a reality show and the American people are too "sensible" to elect him.

I "feel like" President Obama is "on the wrong side of history."

Posted by: unlawful historian at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (e8kgV)

248 224 I could use some prayers for a major career decision coming shortly.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM (Qvgg/

I do hope it works out for the best!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:06 AM (voOPb)

249 243 Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (wnwJC)

Nice....

well on Earth-10077 America correctly saw and was concerned enough about the entitlement bomb that they elected Phil Gramm in 1996 in a landslide....

if we are in "Alternate Universes" and such.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:06 AM (g8Hfr)

250 "I could use some prayers for a major career decision coming shortly."

Thoughts out, VR.

Changing horses can cause stomach churns, I know.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:06 AM (9ym/8)

251 By the way, I don't think Trumps election chances are worse than any other GOP candidate. This isn't a Trump thing, it's a voter registration thing and Trump doesn't have to accomplish the impossible (like winning NY or NJ).

Winning a couple hundred thousand votes in key counties in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida may well win the election. It would have won the last election but for the fact Romney ran a completely incompetent campaign and didn't know his GOTV program was fraudulent.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:06 AM (/m8T6)

252 It will be interesting to see how the RNC adopts a "condemnation by faint praise" approach to 'supporting' Trump's bid.

This is going to be a hoot, I tell you.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:07 AM (4ng05)

253 247 Pretty funny considering the electorate wasn't "sensible" enough to not elect his dumb ass.

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:07 AM (B48dK)

254 I wonder if it was like this standing on the deck of the Titanic after the last lifeboat left.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:07 AM (O7MnT)

255 VN

Shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:07 AM (9ym/8)

256 242 Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (cWLG9)

I love this pretending that 2012 was not ours for the taking with a nominee who actually punched left harder than right....

Duh Donald would have beaten Ogabe 2012.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:08 AM (g8Hfr)

257 Just remember Vashta ...

... working is like eating a shit sandwich. Always goes down easier with more bread.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:08 AM (8v0G6)

258 Had Cruz won the nom, the results would be exactly the same, with his supporters advising everyone to vote for him, because Hillary.

===

True that. And I'd have been very hard pressed to consider it, gotta tell you. I think my position would've been similar to JJ's.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 09:08 AM (3ZtZW)

259 Looks like another Trump/Cruz flame war brewing even after Cruz has dropped out. How about everybody flame on Kashit who refuses to drop out despite losing at every turn?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 08:56 AM (vvmPQ)

Excellent idea.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 09:08 AM (oU3Bb)

260 Prayers up, Vashta

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 09:08 AM (nbrY/)

261 to the guys looking for work, best of luck, I'm pulling for you. stay strong and upbeat. you will prevail. and in November I'm pulling the lever against the job destroying democrat party.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (nFwvY)

262 254 Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:07 AM (O7MnT)

The Kursk....

it is like being inside the Kursk comrade.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (g8Hfr)

263 It would have won the last election but for the fact Romney ran a completely incompetent campaign and didn't know his GOTV program was fraudulent.

And the Trump campaign never even bothered to research the rules for primaries.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (O7MnT)

264 Washington (CNN) - President Barack Obama has a message for Donald Trump being president is tougher than being on a reality show and the American people are too "sensible" to elect him.

I "feel like" President Obama is "on the wrong side of history."
Posted by: unlawful historian at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (e8kgV)

Yesterday, Obama said that Trump "is not equipped to be President". This from the guy who is solely responsible for populating the entire database of "not equipped to be President".

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (4ng05)

265 254
I wonder if it was like this standing on the deck of the Titanic after the last lifeboat left.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:07 AM (O7MnT)
no...it was colder and people dressed better.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (0O7c5)

266 I will remind Trumpsters of all the shit they spewed about my chosen political philosophy.

===

Back atcha.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (3ZtZW)

267 @263 and yet he won.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 09:10 AM (2Ocf1)

268 Where were you for the last 8 years? The last two elections were gimmies.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:05 AM (cWLG9)

"They told me it was no problem...I was a virtual shoe in...."

Posted by: Ham Sammich at May 04, 2016 09:10 AM (0LQ4f)

269 263 Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (O7MnT)

Trump at least understands that the name of the game in partisan politics is "attack the other fucker"....

He will NOT be praising Hillary as a "nice guy just in over his head."

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:10 AM (g8Hfr)

270 234 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:02 AM (vvmPQ)
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They asked Joe Trippi about that last night Vic. He laughed. "Every election" is like that, with bad blood in the immediate aftermath, and he pays zero attention to it. When election day comes, "Democrats who show up will vote for Hillary" he said, and Rove agreed, saying "and Republicans will vote for Trump".

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:10 AM (/m8T6)

271 @Sven-Yeah i know, Phil Gramm is my mine.

Posted by: JROD at May 04, 2016 09:10 AM (wnwJC)

272 224 I could use some prayers for a major career decision coming shortly.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2016 09:00 AM

prayers up!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2016 09:11 AM (0O7c5)

273 He will NOT be praising Hillary as a "nice guy just in over his head."
------------------------------------------------

and thank God for that. It's about time.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:11 AM (/m8T6)

274 I spent a good portion of last nigh reading his
positions, papers and comments. I am not finding any of that. But that's
just me.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 08:49 AM (O0lVq)

You are not looking very hard if you are not finding that. Stop looking at the position papers written by other people and go to google (or youtube if you want to hear him saying these things out loud.

Also, stop ignoring that the man is over 60 years old and believed things long before last year. The sidebar just yesterday linked to his 2012 tweets where he was supporting Obama's call for gun control post Newtown.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:11 AM (nUJM6)

275 "@263 and yet he won."

Unless Cruz wants to pursue a contested convention strategy. Otherwise, the Trump plan of "plow through the primaries and to Hell with it" played out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:12 AM (9ym/8)

276 Trump at least understands that the name of the game in partisan politics is "attack the other fucker".... with lies, smears, childish name-calling and conspiracy theories.

FIFY

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:12 AM (O7MnT)

277 Milo and Crowder tag teaming the White House briefings.

Now that would be worth watching as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 04, 2016 09:12 AM (ptqRm)

278 Prayers up Vashta!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 09:12 AM (/CXhS)

279 For each Trump negative point, piaps has three. Though as a nation we're still screwed either way, but at least I would like to see piaps get a huge karma beach slap.

Posted by: auscolpyr at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (Ht/4p)

280 Since Trump will be the nominee, I guess that I can start capitalizing "President" again. (at least until Hillary is elected (before her indictment and impeachment)).

It isn't much, but I do what I can.

Hillary as president though, would be kind of cool historically, at least. Two of the three people impeached in history wil be from the same family.

It's the little things that make this country (formerly) great.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (4ng05)

281 ""They told me it was no problem...I was a virtual shoe in...."
Posted by: Ham Sammich "

I voted for you. You got screwed in '12.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (9ym/8)

282 Does anyone believe the MFM is going to give Trump a pass on attacking Hillary the same way he attacked other Republicans?

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (O7MnT)

283 >>>Winning a couple hundred thousand votes in key counties in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida may well win the election. It would have won the last election but for the fact Romney ran a completely incompetent campaign and didn't know his GOTV program was fraudulent.
Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:06 AM (/m8T6)

What has Trump's ground game to persuade you that he would be different than Romney?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (voOPb)

284 @275 are you keeping up with current events?

Cruz quit last night.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (2Ocf1)

285 Praying Vashta!!

Morning all

Posted by: Moki at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (ezHMO)

286 Guy on the elevator this morning was talking about "Applesauce Jello" which, apparently is a family recipe and uses applesauce rather than the water for making the Jello and etc.

When he got off everyone was like OMFG that's disgusting

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 09:14 AM (3ZtZW)

287 It would have won the last election but for the fact Romney ran a completely incompetent campaign and didn't know his GOTV program was fraudulent.

And the Trump campaign never even bothered to research the rules for primaries.

And still won.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:14 AM (cWLG9)

288
They asked Joe Trippi about that last night Vic.
He laughed. "Every election" is like that, with bad blood in the
immediate aftermath, and he pays zero attention to it. When election
day comes, "Democrats who show up will vote for Hillary" he said, and
Rove agreed, saying "and Republicans will vote for Trump".

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:10 AM (/m8T6)

Remind me again of any other recent campaign where the winner accused another candidate's father of being involved in the assassination of JFK? and that is not even getting into is acolytes carrying his water on the totally false "lyin' Ted" claims.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:14 AM (nUJM6)

289 276 Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:12 AM (O7MnT)

Oh so he is a politician?

Last time I checked Bronko Bama's machine was accusing Mitt a man on a personal level I admire of giving Joe Septic's wife cancer with magic underwear beams.

I am a Cruz fan, I hate that Trump won but win he did...

if Trump hit Grammy H with 1/2 the rage he attacked Cruz I'll be satisfied beyond belief.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:14 AM (g8Hfr)

290 You vote your way, I vote mine. I played my last "vote for X because Y is worse" game with Romney. Trump does not inspire me to vote for him.

Besides, this election is going to be a mudfest. Candidates with crappy favorable ratings don't try to elevate themselves...they try to bring the other candidate down further (hence Trump's bizarre rant about Ted Cruz's father). With two candidates who have favorable ratings in the toilet, well, I am not going to waste my time with it and I refuse to have some random poster's snark factor into that decision.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 08:53 AM (PFy0L)

I actually get it when people say they just can't pull the lever for Trump. They've lost me when they say they can pull it for known felon and all around piece of shit Hillary Clinton. No way. That's a bridge too far. You want to sit out the election, that's cool. Not voting is always an option and always has been. But something something Hillary is the way to respond just doesn't make sense to me.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (4ErVI)

291 So now do we get to see Trump pivot to attacking Hillary vociferously, coherently, and with sound economic arguments?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2016 08:20 AM (KUaJL)

See this is what a lot of people miss. Coherent and sound have nothing to do with it. Can you make something stick? That's what the Left does and that's what Trump did the GOP candidates. Like it or hate it, that's the situation.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (n2GmV)

292 From the ONT: Swedish men being encouraged to stop beating off in public so Swedish women can get pregnant (or something).

Hell, I thought that was why they were importing all of the peaceful Muslims.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (4ng05)

293 270 When election day comes, "Democrats who show up will
vote for Hillary" he said, and Rove agreed, saying "and Republicans
will vote for Trump".

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:10 AM (/m8T6)

I give Karl Rove zero credit for any political acumen. He and the MFM are responsible for all of Bush's political failures.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (vvmPQ)

294 Miss me yet? You had your chance America.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (gwG9s)

295 If anyone would like to note my level of concern, be my guest.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 08:18 AM (dFi94)
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This is election is such a cluster. I can't look.

Posted by: Lea at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (lIU4e)

296 " @275 are you keeping up with current events? "

Oh yes. Doesn't keep out a convention contest if Trump can't get the delegates.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (9ym/8)

297 Muslim women sue California cafe after they were asked to leave 'for being visibly Muslim'

http://goo.gl/mzzToV

==========
I call bullshit. One, CAIR is involved. Two, Orange Co has lots of muslims. Three, cops wouldnt respond to this lame type of call.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 09:16 AM (iQIUe)

298 When are Conservatives going to wake up and realize the GOP is not their home, it is their prison?

When are they going to see that their faith in gradual change is foolish and that it is being used against them?

When will they see that their job is to help prepare for the massive upheaval that is coming?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 09:16 AM (MQEz6)

299 282 Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (O7MnT)

No, does it matter?

Trying to use some arcane reverse instinct media strategy to keep them pleased is not a winning thing for the GOP.

ANY attack on H Dawg was gonna be misogynist....Trump just doesn't give a fuck.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:16 AM (g8Hfr)

300
to the guys looking for work, best of luck, I'm pulling for you. stay
strong and upbeat. you will prevail. and in November I'm pulling the
lever against the job destroying democrat party.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (nFwvY)

And for the crony socialist job destroying so called Republican?

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (nUJM6)

301 if Trump hit Grammy H with 1/2 the rage he attacked Cruz I'll be satisfied beyond belief.
Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:14 AM (g8Hfr

And I have still have a shot that Kate Upton will dump that Verlander guy. Ha Ha Ha Ha

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (voOPb)

302 What has Trump's ground game to persuade you that he would be different than Romney?
------------------------------------------------------

MH, I refuse to wave the white flag sitting here in May. Cruz is organized in all fifty states and, obviously, Trump needs that organization. It should be number one, two and three on his to-do list this morning, even if he has to crawl up and kiss Heidi and Rafael Cruz' feet to get it.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (/m8T6)

303 280 guess that I can start capitalizing "President"
again. (at least until Hillary is elected (before her indictment and
impeachment)).

It isn't much, but I do what I can.

Hillary as president though, would be kind of cool historically, at
least. Two of the three people impeached in history wil be from the
same family.

It's the little things that make this country (formerly) great.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (4ng05)

Do you actually think the Republican leadership will put impeachment back on the table if Scankles is elected???

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (vvmPQ)

304 So much for the party of logic and reason.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 08:44 AM (4ErVI)

Yes, it's been eye opening.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 04, 2016 09:18 AM (n2GmV)

305 Trump at least understands that the name of the game in partisan politics is "attack the other fucker"....

He will NOT be praising Hillary as a "nice guy just in over his head."

"My friendsh, we have nothing to fear with Hillz in the White House......."

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:18 AM (cWLG9)

306 301 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (voOPb)

Dream big....

I fully expect to lose come November, but I'll lose having done my duty.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:18 AM (g8Hfr)

307 294
Miss me yet?

Posted by: Mitt Romney

No.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:18 AM (Gwldq)

308 305 Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:18 AM (cWLG9)

"Whew thank God.... Sarah Palin was almost elected vice-President"

//My Idiot Sister in Law

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:19 AM (g8Hfr)

309 "Whew thank God.... Sarah Palin was almost elected vice-President"

//My Idiot Sister in Law

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:19 AM (g8Hfr)

Haha...good one! Pass the paste

Posted by: Choo Choo Biden at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (0LQ4f)

310 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:13 AM (voOPb)
=========================================

Hey, MisHum. Looks like I'm going to be moving from Kenosha to Lake Geneva. The good news is I'll be moving farther away from Reince Priebus. The bad news is I'll be moving closer to Paul Ryan. The other bad news is that Ryan's primary challenger has no shot. Has only voted 3 times in the last 20 or so elections. Didn't even vote in the recall. Local Tea Party says he's a fake.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (dFi94)

311 So...why a special initiative to get LGBT people to stop smoking cigarettes?
I mean, do they not stick 'em in their mouth like the rest of us?

Posted by: Hipster vegan in skinny jeans at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (NOIQH)

312 303 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (vvmPQ)

I do actually Vic...

*someone* convinced the GOP that if they held Obama to historic Presidential standards we'd have an insurrection.

Nobody is burning down America to protect Grammy H.

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (g8Hfr)

313 56 The Problem with voting for Trump to stop Hillary is that even if you win, you still get Trump.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 08:17 AM (O7MnT)

Yep. We're screwed no matter what.

And if, by some miracle, Trump gets elected and turns out to be a royal f-up who dicks over conservatives on everything - well, you Trump supporters will never be forgiven for forcing him upon us. You will be seen as equivalent to Obama voters. Consider that before you resume your gloating.

The best case scenario is that he gets in and does OK - as a liberal Republican. I certainly don't expect to see him do anything about the size of government or even about the illegals.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (u0lmX)

314 MH, I refuse to wave the white flag sitting here in May. Cruz is organized in all fifty states and, obviously, Trump needs that organization. It should be number one, two and three on his to-do list this morning, even if he has to crawl up and kiss Heidi and Rafael Cruz' feet to get it.

I hope Cruz tells Trump to go fuck himself.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (eHpnh)

315 >>IN sidebar I thought it said America is dying from a million cats.

*whispers*

Sooooooooooon!

Posted by: International "Stealth" Union of Cats at May 04, 2016 09:21 AM (NOIQH)

316 When will they see that their job is to help prepare for the massive upheaval that is coming?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 09:16 AM (MQEz6)
=======================================

Oh hon, I've been preparing for that my whole life.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:21 AM (dFi94)

317
Had Cruz won the nom, the results would be exactly the same, with his supporters advising everyone to vote for him, because Hillary.

It would be nice if both sides could admit to themselves that their side does what the other side does, or would do it if the situation required.

It might end a lot of the Circle of Butthurt.

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 09:21 AM (uz/Pv)

318 293 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:15 AM (vvmPQ)
--------------------------------------

Sure, but this isn't about your prejudice. They cited numbers from the past two elections and Indiana exit polling saying only one in twelve Bernie supporters would even consider Trump.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:21 AM (/m8T6)

319 MH, I refuse to wave the white flag sitting here in
May. Cruz is organized in all fifty states and, obviously, Trump needs
that organization. It should be number one, two and three on his to-do
list this morning, even if he has to crawl up and kiss Heidi and Rafael
Cruz' feet to get it.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (/m8T6)

What you fail to grasp is that ground game is made up of activists who are not Cruz's to bequeath (even if he is willing after Trump lied and lied and LIED about him).
We will not work for or with a vile human being like Trump.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:21 AM (nUJM6)

320 " I will remind Trumpsters of all the shit they spewed about my chosen political philosophy."

This is so much garbage. There are always those in every faction who are agitators and there to disrupt. The fact is, as has been seen on this board as well as many others throughout the primary, is that the VAST amount of Trump supporters also declared that they would easily support Cruz if he was the nominee.

What is actually most true is quite the opposite. It is the Trump supporters who have been most vilified...as "Trumpsters, Trumpbots, etc and constantly being referred to as "Dumb Hicks." And the biggest of all is the nevertrump "movement." I saw no nevercruz movement that has spent millions of dollars in negative advertising and with so-called "conservative" figureheads leading it. It has been Trump that took the barrage in this race. And if you believe that the majority of Trump supporters are like the clowns spewing shit on Breitbart, then you are as clueless as the GOPe has been the last 9 months. Check the demographics that Trump just won in Indiana...it was across the board.

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (pY6mC)

321 "Trump just doesn't give a fuck."

I harken back to Trump shutting that shit-bag down with a rebuke her philandering husband and her "bimbo eruption" team. She said shit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (9ym/8)

322 I don't think the RNC will EVER try to impeach a Democrat President again. No matter what that President does.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (vvmPQ)

323 Barack Obama's legacy is Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump. He has no room to talk about ass-clowning in American politics.

The only way Barry could possibly salvage his legacy would be to have Hillary indicted before the conventions.

Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (UzPAd)

324 I guess the most interesting thing about the remaining primaries is-

how many people will vote for Katshit?

I can't really imagine principled conservatives voting for a guy running to the left of Hillary! i.e.. Katshit.

So, Ima predict Katshit gets a small decrease in voters.

Cuz people like to vote for a winner.

With conservatives who would've been for Cruz mostly going for Trump, because that way they get some of what they want.

So, maybe a 5-15% bump for Trump.

YMMV.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (oU3Bb)

325 So...why a special initiative to get LGBT people to stop smoking cigarettes?

===

Mostly gays and trannies because HIV

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (3ZtZW)

326 >>>>Does anyone believe the MFM is going to give Trump a pass on attacking Hillary the same way he attacked other Republicans?
.
.
.
.
.He has already done it with Bill. Nothing the msm can do about it except to not cover it, and that ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (iONHu)

327 MH, I refuse to wave the white flag sitting here in
May. Cruz is organized in all fifty states and, obviously, Trump needs
that organization. It should be number one, two and three on his to-do
list this morning, even if he has to crawl up and kiss Heidi and Rafael
Cruz' feet to get it. Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (/m8T6)
=====

If he does it in public with all DT sycophant press recording and publishing. Maybe.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (MIKMs)

328 If Bernie had been willing to go after Hillary hard for her incompetence, corruption and maliciousness he could have beat her. But that would have meant going off the reservation and exposing the incompetence, corruption and maliciousness at the heart of the Dem party and leftist politics. His only option was trying to convince the Dem base that she was not liberal and idealistic enough. But, as they say, leftist corruption and maliciousness always overcomes leftist youth and idealism.

Posted by: Ripley at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (1BQGO)

329 Hey, MisHum. Looks like I'm going to be moving from Kenosha to Lake Geneva.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (dFi94)

Lake Geneva is pretty. However, you'll also be closer to Oprah. Doesn't she still own a place there?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (u0lmX)

330 "Good morning Horde. May I interrupt the Dump for a moment... my employer is closing its doors in 8 weeks. I was completely blindsided by this, we were profitable and doing good business. I can't explain further without risking my anonymity."

Don't know if I can help but....

1) Which state do you live in?

2) What is your occupation?

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (pY6mC)

331 Do you actually think the Republican leadership will put impeachment back on the table if Scankles is elected???
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (vvmPQ)

No, I don't. I was just musing... in the perfectly perfect future perfect tense.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (4ng05)

332 "Miss me yet?

Posted by: Mitt Romney "

I miss multiple choicemitt.com

I think he cataloged 121 different flip flops from that so called "electable" repukelican before he gave it up.

But Trump sumtin....sumtin....sumtin, or udder.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Waiting but not anticipating. at May 04, 2016 09:23 AM (WVsWD)

333 Yep. We're screwed no matter what.

I am voting for Gary Johnson with a clean conscience.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:23 AM (O7MnT)

334 Had Cruz won the nom, the results would be
exactly the same, with his supporters advising everyone to vote for him,
because Hillary.

It would be nice if both sides could admit to themselves that their
side does what the other side does, or would do it if the situation
required.

It might end a lot of the Circle of Butthurt.

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 09:21 AM (uz/Pv)

That is totally untrue and until Trump supporters can be honest, they have no hope of making inroads.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:23 AM (nUJM6)

335 "Posted by: Mitt Romney

No.
Posted by: Mortimer "

*snort*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:23 AM (9ym/8)

336 well, you Trump supporters will never be forgiven for forcing him upon
us. You will be seen as equivalent to Obama voters. Consider that
before you resume your gloating.

"gloating"?

Who the hell is gloating?

Looking at Red State last night and surveying the landscape today, I see
the #NeverTrump crowd engaging in a level of hysterics that almost
makes the dummies at Breitbart pale in comparison.

So much for the party of logic and reason.

Yeah. Pretty much.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:23 AM (Gwldq)

337 "That is totally untrue and until Trump supporters can be honest, they have no hope of making inroads."

Labels again....

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:24 AM (pY6mC)

338 Trump supporters have made it pretty clear they don't want my vote anyway.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:25 AM (O7MnT)

339 313 56 The Problem with voting for Trump to stop Hillary is that even if you win, you still get Trump.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 08:17 AM (O7MnT)

Wow. Seriously? Welcome to my fucking world in every election since 1988.

"Vote for xxx to stop the Dems! If you don't vote for xxx the Dems win! If you don't vote for xxx, you're un-American!"

You know what? Fuck. That. Shit. No more. Romney was it.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:25 AM (cWLG9)

340 It fucking kills me that people on the right actually INSIST that Trump would be a worse president than even Obama - on par with an extinction level event.

Amazing.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:25 AM (4ng05)

341 300
to the guys looking for work, best of luck, I'm pulling for you. stay
strong and upbeat. you will prevail. and in November I'm pulling the
lever against the job destroying democrat party.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 09:09 AM (nFwvY)

And for the crony socialist job destroying so called Republican?
Posted by: redbanzai

my mileage varies from yours. yes.

vote your conscience dude. or stay home. it's a somewhat free country. I can't wait to vote against Hillary.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 09:26 AM (nFwvY)

342 329 Hey, MisHum. Looks like I'm going to be moving from Kenosha to Lake Geneva.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (dFi94)

Lake Geneva is pretty. However, you'll also be closer to Oprah. Doesn't she still own a place there?
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM

You're movin' up Baby!!! Congrats.

PS Moving is a young person's sport. Hire it done if you can.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:26 AM (voOPb)

343 "Trump supporters have made it pretty clear they don't want my vote anyway."

Bullshit. And you know it.

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:26 AM (pY6mC)

344 I still want Texas to secede and I'd welcome Oklahoma if they want in. I see no way the relatively sane states escape a fkn.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 04, 2016 09:26 AM (8dxdo)

345 Lake Geneva is pretty. However, you'll also be closer to Oprah. Doesn't she still own a place there?

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (u0lmX)
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She does? Oh crap. Probably one of those enormous mansions on the lake. I'll check it out next time I take one of the boat cruises. They usually tell you who owns what. Like the DuPont family. Or the Rockafellers. Or the guy who invented Morton Salt. Or was it Spam?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (dFi94)

346 334 Had Cruz won the nom, the results would be
exactly the same, with his supporters advising everyone to vote for him,
because Hillary.

It would be nice if both sides could admit to themselves that their
side does what the other side does, or would do it if the situation
required.

It might end a lot of the Circle of Butthurt.

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 09:21 AM (uz/Pv)

That is totally untrue and until Trump supporters can be honest, they have no hope of making inroads.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:23 AM (nUJM6)

Honest about what?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (MQEz6)

347 vote your conscience dude. or stay home. it's a somewhat free country. I can't wait to vote against Hillary.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 09:26 AM (nFwvY)

There will be other names on the ballot besides those two horrors.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (nUJM6)

348 Hell hath no fury like a redbanzai scorned.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (8v0G6)

349 PS Moving is a young person's sport. Hire it done if you can.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:26 AM (voOPb)
=========================================

That's why I had children.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (dFi94)

350 they have no hope of making inroads.

Posted by: redbanzai

Finger-wagging nags are so pleasant to be around.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:28 AM (Gwldq)

351 May the fourth be with you! I pronounce force as fourth all year!

Posted by: Reggie at May 04, 2016 09:28 AM (gwG9s)

352 347 Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (nUJM6)

Vote for me IT salves the pain of actually voting for the Democrat!

//Ga*y Johnson

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:28 AM (g8Hfr)

353 Honest about what?

Posted by: eman

she has no idea

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:28 AM (Gwldq)

354 I wouldn't vote for Trump for President of the Hair Club for Men.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:28 AM (HWLn9)

355 Maybe Trump should bring back the tradition of handing out massive quantities of booze at the polls.

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (B48dK)

356 I still want Texas to secede and I'd welcome Oklahoma if they want in. I see no way the relatively sane states escape a fkn.
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 04, 2016 09:26 AM (8dxdo)

Just as it's time for me to seriously examine third-party alternatives, it's time for me to educate myself on secession. I'll certainly support it if I think there's any possibility that it can succeed.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (eHpnh)

357 We're all free to vote for whoever we want, including Candidate Couch, and isn't that a deeply American choice.

But if you don't vote you don't get to complain.

Trump is accused of being all things to all people, but all those people seem to be his opponents.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (xuouz)

358 Wonder if I can recycle today's dump tomorrow? Just thinking outloud.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (voOPb)

359 340 It fucking kills me that people on the right actually INSIST that Trump would be a worse president than even Obama - on par with an extinction level event.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:25 AM (4ng05)
------------------------------------------------

I want some of whatever you're smoking.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (/m8T6)

360 "Trump supporters have made it pretty clear they don't want my vote anyway."

Anybody to the right of full-on Commie welcomes the vote.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (9ym/8)

361 355 Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (B48dK)

If he gives dime bags for Pookie and the Couch I'm good for a thousand....

Posted by: sven10077 at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (g8Hfr)

362
Republicans didn't cause Trump. The Republican Party caused Trump.

I think Republicans can possibly survive a Trump presidency. I'm not so sure the Republican Party can.

I hope they can't. This notion of two diametrically opposed, hostile to the point of hatred, political parties has waaayyy outlived it's usefulness. After all, that structure was always only useful to the establishment status quo anyway.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (4ng05)

363 Per Liz Warren, Trump has more support among KKK leadership than the leadership of the GOP. I doubt Hillary will pick her as VP, but she's intent on being part of this race.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (2cS/G)

364

Here is some honesty:

Cruz is a big boy and lost all by himself.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (Gwldq)

365
I doubt Oprah visits Lake Geneva anymore. She dumped her property in Chicago and owns a mansion in Montecito CA and a huge estate in Hawaii.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (iQIUe)

366 OMG OMG!!

Totally missed it!

Today is cinco de quatro.

I made no celebration plans.

Well, there will be lunch at the Park. I hope that counts.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Waiting but not anticipating. at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (WVsWD)

367 Remember how we were lectured about being too dumb to understand the rules? And then Trump wins with votes and people have now moved to the "well you suck" argument.

Feels like an AOL chatroom.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (2Ocf1)

368 Emily Sears 2016

http://tinyurl.com/jngn2mk

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (/CXhS)

369 " Wonder if I can recycle today's dump tomorrow? "

You probably could. You got enough stuff in there it'd take a day or two to sort it out.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (9ym/8)

370 Oh Dear God. RS now is advocating that Congress confirm Obama's SCOTUS pick because...TRUMP!

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (O0lVq)

371 Just as it's time for me to seriously examine third-party alternatives, it's time for me to educate myself on secession. I'll certainly support it if I think there's any possibility that it can succeed.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (eHpnh)

I thought you wanted the GOP to die. The only way TX leaves is with GOP elected politicians pushing it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (voOPb)

372 Mort swallow the bile man. We're on to Hillary.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (xuouz)

373 I got this mental image of grammie sitting on that hideous couch, beer in one hand and lutefisk in the other, directing the line of kids moving all her shit.

"Careful, damn it. That Aaron Rogers bust is an heirloom."

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (8v0G6)

374 Honest about what?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (MQEz6)

Their inability to distinguish reality from bullshit, principles from childish wishful thinking?Just a guess.

Posted by: Mimzey at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (aRUb8)

375 Wonder if I can recycle today's dump tomorrow? Just thinking outloud.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (voOPb)

Mis Hum today's dump was particularly great.

You have the best dumps.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:32 AM (xuouz)

376 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (9ym/

Thanks RK

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:32 AM (voOPb)

377 358 Wonder if I can recycle today's dump tomorrow? Just thinking outloud.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (voOPb)

It would be the environmentally sound thing to do.

*omg MH is a greenie!!!*

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 09:32 AM (nbrY/)

378 Or is today quatro de cinco? I get these obscure Holidays so mixed up.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois Waiting but not anticipating. at May 04, 2016 09:32 AM (WVsWD)

379 right...so appeals court backed sheriff Joe A. on illegals stealing identities ? good news, good news.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2016 09:32 AM (c6/9Q)

380 "But if you don't vote you don't get to complain."

This is utterly stupid. I'll probably sit out this election. I'll continue to complain. Are you going to stop me? No, you're not.

It may well be that refusing to vote is the only meaningful vote left to me.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 09:32 AM (eHpnh)

381
374 Honest about what?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 09:27 AM (MQEz6)

Their inability to distinguish reality from bullshit, principles from childish wishful thinking?Just a guess.
Posted by: Mimzey at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (aRUb

Yes, a guess, and a bad one, too.

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 09:33 AM (MQEz6)

382
If Elizabeth Warre had any respect for the disadvantaged she would have pretended to be a native American in order to steal jobs from them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 09:33 AM (iQIUe)

383 Anybody see Keanu yet? Wanted to go last weekend but got sidetracked .

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:33 AM (HWLn9)

384 No bile.

Just the same old.

The "party of personal responsibility" just never can quite seem to take responsibility for anything. Including it's own epic losses.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:34 AM (Gwldq)

385 @374 I don't see any Trump voters / supporters here claiming that Trump is a principled ideologue and that is why they support him.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 09:34 AM (2Ocf1)

386 I honestly can't wait for the debates. I wonder how many hillary will agree to?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 09:34 AM (iONHu)

387 Cool! Cinque di Quatro! The only Mexican holiday in the United States that isn't a Mexican holiday in Mexico.

We should send them foreign aid, or something, in commemoration.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:34 AM (4ng05)

388 But if you don't vote you don't get to complain.

On the contrary - not voting is a vote in and of itself.

When I'm asked to choose between The Wicked Witch and Jim Jim The Dog Faced Boy, that isn't a meaningful choice and I'm not going to play the game. And yes, I get to complain about the retarded system that made such a choice possible.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 09:34 AM (eytER)

389 I doubt Oprah visits Lake Geneva anymore. She dumped
her property in Chicago and owns a mansion in Montecito CA and a huge
estate in Hawaii.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (iQIUe)
================================================

I
wonder what it sold for? Those Old Money places on the lake are
ridiculous. I think one of them was built for around 35 million -- during
the Depression! Can you imagine that?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:35 AM (dFi94)

390 "Anybody see Keanu yet?"

In what?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:35 AM (9ym/8)

391 I was sort of sequestered most of yesterday and all of last night, so I'm hearing about this Cruz-dropping-out thing now.

I'm surprised, genuinely so.

Anyway, on to defeat the Clintonistas and/or the rabble supporting Sanders.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 04, 2016 09:35 AM (lutOX)

392 Hey, MisHum. Looks like I'm going to be moving from Kenosha to Lake Geneva. Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:20 AM (dFi94)
=====

Youngest started bringing other kids to the RenFaire in Kenosha. Her group has been getting bigger each year and WI seems a good place to live and work. Son lives in Madison suburb (and just bought a house there). Since two of mine are now onboard with WI, I have been thinking of moving myself. Joking with son that he had to have an in-law apartment set up for me and the dog and cat in the new place. You should have seen the look on the girlfriend's face. Hah!

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 09:35 AM (MIKMs)

393 "I thought you wanted the GOP to die. The only way TX leaves is with GOP elected politicians pushing it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (voOPb)"

If Texas secedes, the politicians who supported it will no longer be Republicans.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 09:36 AM (eHpnh)

394 And then Trump wins with votes and people have now moved to the "well you suck" argument.

Feels like an AOL chatroom.

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (2Ocf1)

I don't remember that at all. It's been a consistent "how can you people be such suckers for Trump? He's a conman...duh."

Posted by: Mimzey at May 04, 2016 09:36 AM (aRUb8)

395 370 Oh Dear God. RS now is advocating that Congress confirm Obama's SCOTUS pick because...TRUMP!
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (O0lVq)

I see your true colors
Shining through
Your true colors
That's why I laugh at you
True colors
Are beautiful
Like a Trigglypuff

Posted by: Cyndi Lauper at May 04, 2016 09:36 AM (nbrY/)

396 359 340 It fucking kills me that people on the right actually INSIST that Trump would be a worse president than even Obama - on par with an extinction level event.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:25 AM (4ng05)
------------------------------------------------

I want some of whatever you're smoking.
Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:29 AM (/m8T6)

What, he's right. Listen to someone like chemjeff who has Trump as the next Hitler. Or listen to a lot of pundits describe him as Hitler. Some people are seriously unhinged over Trump.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at May 04, 2016 09:36 AM (n2GmV)

397 Anyway, on to defeat the Clintonistas

and that's how you do it.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:36 AM (Gwldq)

398 So, are the Bernbots crowing? Good for them! Hope they riot when the hag steals the election.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 09:36 AM (iQIUe)

399 I got this mental image of grammie sitting on that
hideous couch, beer in one hand and lutefisk in the other, directing the
line of kids moving all her shit.

"Careful, damn it. That Aaron Rogers bust is an heirloom."

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (8v0G6)
=========================================

Admit it. You've been spying on me.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:36 AM (dFi94)

400 "I don't see any Trump voters / supporters here claiming that Trump is a principled ideologue and that is why they support him."

He is the enemy of our enemy, and, he fights. That's all we know right now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:37 AM (9ym/8)

401 I've worked in rural Wisconsin. Very pretty country. Nice people. They laughed their asses off at my accent.

I could live there.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:37 AM (8v0G6)

402 2 Good morning Horde. May I interrupt the Dump for a moment... my employer is closing its doors in 8 weeks. I was completely blindsided by this, we were profitable and doing good business. I can't explain further without risking my anonymity.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 04, 2016 07:58 AM (3MozY)

Regardless of what you decide to do, go out today and borrow all the money you possibly can.

Refinance your home with a 100% value loan. If you own your car, sell it, keep the cash and lease a low end pickup with nothing down. Don't max out your credit cards, as the cash line will probably have an ultra high interest rate, but get additional cards from other banks if you can.

Keep all the cash in a bank that isn't associated with any of your loans.

This is a critical time to prepare.

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 09:37 AM (Zs4uk)

403 @394 are you in a different comments section than I am?

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2016 09:37 AM (2Ocf1)

404
That is totally untrue and until Trump supporters can be honest, they have no hope of making inroads.
Posted by: redbanzai at May 04, 2016 09:23 AM (nUJM6)

Exhibit A.

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 09:37 AM (uz/Pv)

405 Some people are seriously unhinged over Trump.

putting it mildly

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:37 AM (Gwldq)

406 Here is some honesty:

Cruz is a big boy and lost all by himself.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:30 AM (Gwldq)

Well, here's the thing. Cruz is a big boy.

He could've stayed in a been all spiteful and weird and played into the GOPe schemes of a Brokered Convention.

However-

He looked at the numbers (Big Boy Stuff)

concluded that he couldn't put together a winning coalition (Big Boy Stuff)

considered whether he preferred the GOPe hack as Presidential candidate and a split party loss to Hillary! (Big Boy Stuff)

and, IMHO, made the choice to enable Trump's win because he thought him the best candidate who could emerge from the present situation (Big Boy Stuff).

So, yep. Big Boy. Mature adult who doesn't let the perfect be enemy of the good and throw a tantrum.

And as always-

YMMV.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 09:38 AM (oU3Bb)

407 "RS now is advocating ...."

"RS"

?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:38 AM (9ym/8)

408 370 Oh Dear God. RS now is advocating that Congress confirm Obama's SCOTUS pick because...TRUMP!
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 09:31 AM (O0lVq)

I haven't regularly visited that site in years, but I've been checking in in the last few days to see what's happening. The results are... not pretty.

Related side note. I really want somebody to tell me what metric is being used when they call a liberal supreme court pick/justice "moderate." Last I checked, we could pretty much guarantee how any of the 4 current ones would vote on an important issue, and it just so happens to always be what the liberal party wants. As far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing as a moderate liberal justice.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2016 09:38 AM (KUaJL)

409 Trump could get a huge portion of the Bernie vote with a short statement."Pot should be legal in all 50 states and I will get to the bottom of what REALLY happened at Roswell"

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:39 AM (B48dK)

410 On the contrary - not voting is a vote in and of itself.
...
And yes, I get to complain about the retarded system that made such a choice possible.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 09:34 AM (eytER)

Correct, it's a vote for whichever party in our binary system is less scrupulous, a vote for your own powerlessness, and demonstrates a commitment to complaining but not acting to improve your situation.

Very Republican.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:39 AM (xuouz)

411 Schadenfreude meter is in the red today. Maxed out.

Posted by: tsj017 at May 04, 2016 09:39 AM (4YUWF)

412
"RS"

?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:38 AM (9ym/

Redstate.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2016 09:39 AM (KUaJL)

413 Anybody to the right of full-on Commie welcomes the vote.

For the last four months, all I've heard from Trump supporters is that I'm an idiot, a "cuckservative," an "establishment tool," and a whole range of epithets.

They didn't just attack the series of candidates I supported, they attacked me personally. I won't forget that.

And now that they've won, they aren't being magnanimous in victory. It's more like, "Suck it, losers."

Fine, if that's how you feel, Trumpkins. The Libertarians will welcome my support.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:39 AM (O7MnT)

414 Wow. Guess fear and loathing of the people is de rigor in both parties

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 09:39 AM (zOTsN)

415 Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 09:35 AM (MIKMs)
==============================================

Wisconsin really is a nice place to live. Soon-to-be Mister works across the line in Illinois. I told him no way was I living in Illinois. So we compromised on Lake Geneva. And when I say we compromised, I mean I told him we were living in Lake Geneva.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:40 AM (dFi94)

416 grammie, bust of Aaron? The dancer?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:40 AM (9ym/8)

417 Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 09:38 AM (oU3Bb)
***
Nailed it.

Cruz is young-ish; this won't be his last rodeo.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 04, 2016 09:40 AM (lutOX)

418
So, yep. Big Boy. Mature adult who doesn't let the perfect be enemy of the good and throw a tantrum.

Exactly.

Posted by: Pfizer Pharmaceuticals at May 04, 2016 09:41 AM (Gwldq)

419 Geez Kari. You're not going to "vote shame" anybody into voting for Trump. Let it go, hoss.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:41 AM (8v0G6)

420 Trump supporters weren't personally attacked?

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:41 AM (B48dK)

421 wow old sock

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:41 AM (Gwldq)

422 I knew I should have never ate that worm.

Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 09:42 AM (UzPAd)

423 Everybody's rending their garments and I'm just sitting here hitting f5 on blog.dilbert.caaaahm

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:42 AM (xuouz)

424 I heard someone who supported Cruz say something so vile last night to one of the nicest people here. I have heard trump supporters, not regulars, be equally vile. I personally found the Rubio supporters vile. There is plenty of shame to go around. How about we stop painting each other with these brushes and move on

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 09:42 AM (zOTsN)

425 1 Nominate the most left-wing, unqualified, despicable candidate to stick it to the GOPe (who also happens to be golf buddies with John Boehner)
2 ??????
3 Profit.

Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 09:42 AM (Ypc8j)

426 302 What has Trump's ground game to persuade you that he would be different than Romney?
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MH, I refuse to wave the white flag sitting here in May. Cruz is organized in all fifty states and, obviously, Trump needs that organization. It should be number one, two and three on his to-do list this morning, even if he has to crawl up and kiss Heidi and Rafael Cruz' feet to get it.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:17 AM (/m8T6)
_______________________
Do you really believe Cruz would help Donald Trump? Trumps win was predicted prior to the vote count and Trump still had to insinuate that Cruz's dad was somehow involved in the assassination of JFK? I think it is a case of burned bridges.

Posted by: lightning at May 04, 2016 09:42 AM (AP+SF)

427 Grammie ... I worked in Beloit. I wasn't too far from you, was I ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:43 AM (8v0G6)

428 I've been neutral in the whole thing and it seemed to me the personal attacks started from the anti Trump side(there was one quite obvious troll "Trump supporter" as well)

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:43 AM (B48dK)

429 I was sort of sequestered most of yesterday and all of last night, so I'm hearing about this Cruz-dropping-out thing now.

I'm surprised, genuinely so.

I'm not. Whatever his shortcomings he's an honorable man. Besides, as others have said, he's young, and in theory has other opportunities ahead.

Meanwhile, Kasich continues to play his role. I still expect shenanigans at the convention, GOPe types may be trying to cozy up to him in public, but he's still an interloper, they still want one of their own, and there's still ample room for dirty tricks.

As for myself, I've come to the conclusion I no longer have a dog in this hunt. I'm simply going to worry about the things I can have an impact on and focus on the things that really matter.

Horde, focus on the culture and the people. We need missionaries, not politicians. Restore the people and the rest shall follow. (And we may want to work on the folks that have been shipped in as our replacements, while we're at it. One never knows who's going to see the light en route to Damascus, after all...)

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 04, 2016 09:43 AM (9krrF)

430 Geez Kari. You're not going to "vote shame" anybody into voting for Trump. Let it go, hoss.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:41 AM (8v0G6)

Nothing to do with Trump, just the idea that not voting is a strategy. I can respect someone who says "fuck it" and doesn't vote, but not someone who says "this is my vote."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:43 AM (xuouz)

431 Trump supporters weren't personally attacked?

If they felt personally attacked, they would also not vote for the people who were attacking them.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:44 AM (O7MnT)

432 From Trumps cuckservative brigade, with Rubios planting stories about Cruz in the press, to what was said to peaches last night. Let's just all stop being people we are ashamed of

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 09:44 AM (zOTsN)

433 420 Trump supporters weren't personally attacked?
Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:41 AM (B48dK)
***
Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who......

It's over and done with.

Save the rage for our enemies.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 04, 2016 09:44 AM (lutOX)

434 396 What, he's right.
------------------------------------

I haven't seen anyone INSIST Trump would be worse than Obama as President, so I don't think he's right.

I myself think they roughly believe in the same policies, but I'm hopeful Trump will prove me wrong and be better for the country. Miracles happen every day.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:44 AM (/m8T6)

435 424
I heard someone who supported Cruz say something so vile last night to one of the nicest people here.

Did anyone check on Peaches? I am worried.

That was maybe the worst thing I have ever seen at AOS.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:44 AM (Gwldq)

436 "They didn't just attack the series of candidates I supported, they attacked me personally. I won't forget that. "

We're the same family. I don't know the Trump people who you say attacked you. I've taken some mean shit too. Both sides. Trump and Cruz people.

Come November, I don't want that dangerous Bint in the White House or we will get it real good and hard. That's my motivation.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:44 AM (9ym/8)

437 Correct, it's a vote for whichever party in our binary system is less scrupulous, a vote for your own powerlessness, and demonstrates a commitment to complaining but not acting to improve your situation.

Very Republican.

If Trump wanted my vote then he'd be courting it. He isn't. Instead I'm getting blackmailed about how Hillary would be worse. And daddy don't play that game any more.

I will be a part of the significant number of people who won't vote for the guy. That's my vote. And pointing out how the system is deeply flawed is how I'm acting to improve my situation.

Sorry you find that less appealing than casting a meaningless vote that will be deliberately misinterpreted into an expression of approval and mandate for one Donald J. Trump, but then I'm acting according to my principles and not yours, so I think it all works out pretty well.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 09:44 AM (PFy0L)

438 For the last four months, all I've heard from Trump supporters is that I'm an idiot, a "cuckservative," an "establishment tool," and a whole range of epithets.

They didn't just attack the series of candidates I supported, they attacked me personally. I won't forget that.

And that's all the rest of us have heard from the #NeverTrump'ers.

Welcome to life.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:45 AM (cWLG9)

439 Morning all

I will n to even read the thread, I assume it's pretty bloody
LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2016 09:45 AM (Ozsfq)

440 Somebody attacked peaches?

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:45 AM (B48dK)

441 Man, I'm no Trump fan, but I have to admit that I am looking forward to listening to Beck this morning.

That guy lost all his f'ng marbles some time ago, and I'm excited to see if he takes the final plunge into oblivion

Posted by: FITP at May 04, 2016 09:45 AM (VIs9d)

442 Posted by: Bat Chain Puller

So sorry to hear that. Life throws us these curve balls and it can be quite a shock. I don't know what industry you are in - but there are a lot of the horde here that may have some good ideas on how to approach your job search if you are willing to share.

Posted by: Cheri at May 04, 2016 09:46 AM (oiNtH)

443 426 Do you really believe Cruz would help Donald Trump?
----------------------------------------------

He already did. Last night. So, the answer to your question is "yes".

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:46 AM (/m8T6)

444 Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 04, 2016 09:43 AM (9krrF)
***
Words of wisdom, sir.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 04, 2016 09:46 AM (lutOX)

445 "That was maybe the worst thing I have ever seen at AOS. "

It was. In my time. Poster got blowed up.

No reason for that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:46 AM (9ym/8)

446 I've been neutral in the whole thing and it seemed to me the personal attacks started from the anti Trump side(there was one quite obvious troll "Trump supporter" as well)
Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:43 AM (B48dK)

There's plenty of dirt flying from both sides, and neither can claim the high ground.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:46 AM (xuouz)

447 Down with the GOPe! Hurrah for the Vulgarian Party!

Posted by: Fritz at May 04, 2016 09:46 AM (UzPAd)

448 If Trump wanted my vote then he'd be courting it. He isn't. Instead I'm getting blackmailed about how Hillary would be worse. And daddy don't play that game any more.

I am with you on this. I feel like Rinsed Pubis and Debbie Wasserman-Schulz made a bet last year over whose party could nominate the worst possible candidate and they both won.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (O7MnT)

449

Cruz may help Trump. If he wanted to hurt him he would have stayed in to the convention. He could have. He didn't. Staying in to the convention gives it to GOPe. I think Cruz knew that. Cruz was faced with staying in and giving it to GOPe or getting out and letting Trump run with it. That's what he did

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (zOTsN)

450 Yes when you have no retort to facts and criticism the only response is to call your opponents unhinged .

People are never trump for valid reasons. The reasons have been laid out in a coherent manner only to be dismissed with the wave of a hand . The opposition has been anything but unhinged.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (HWLn9)

451 I am seeing article after article today on blogs that claim we are doomed and will not win the White House and will also lose the Senate because of Trump. Has anyone stopped and actually looked at vote totals? Republicans are smashing vote totals all over the Country and Democrats are not even seeing the numbers they had in 2012 even with an actual Primary race being fought.

Hillary at the top of the ticket will drive those numbers even lower as the younger Bernie voters will stay home and not vote for her because they feel cheated. Additionally, she most certainly will not carry all of the States that her husband did in 1992. She can write off Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia for starters.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (iONHu)

452 440
Somebody attacked peaches?

Yes. She is kinda sorta pro-Trump . A Cruz supporter told her that he hoped that "she died of cancer like her mother".

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (Gwldq)

453 So amazon doesn't even sell magazines. WTF.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (/CXhS)

454 453 Wow,that's really nasty.I hope she is okay.

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:48 AM (B48dK)

455 "For the last four months, all I've heard from Trump supporters is that I'm an idiot, a "cuckservative," an "establishment tool," and a whole range of epithets.

Fine, if that's how you feel, Trumpkins. The Libertarians will welcome my support."

More bullshitshit....oh sure...all those trump supporters despise you. Have you seen the demographics?

Just disregard the overwhelming amount of Trump supporters who clearly stated they would support Cruz if he were the nominee...even at a brokered convention. I never saw a nevercruz movement but I did see the GOPe and Cruz supporters get together and dump millions into a nevertrump movement. And how many degrading names do you have for Trump supporters? But you were the "principled" one right?

Pull the victim card if thats what helps you sleep at night.

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:48 AM (pY6mC)

456 I heard someone who supported Cruz say something so vile last night to one of the nicest people here.
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On a par with accusing your opponents father of helping to kill Kennedy? Or calling an opponents wife a suicide waiting to happen? Please.

Let it go.

Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:48 AM (/m8T6)

457 "So amazon doesn't even sell magazines. WTF."

Nope. Gotta go the gun sites.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:48 AM (9ym/8)

458 Trump could get a huge portion of the Bernie vote with a short statement."Pot should be legal in all 50 states and I will get to the bottom of what REALLY happened at Roswell"
Posted by: steevy

Sadly, the pot thing might work. If he actually tried to try a Libertarian/business savvy persona, it would be a heckofalot better than "I hate coal miners/I love coal miners who are too stupid to understand me".

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 04, 2016 09:49 AM (326rv)

459 Wow. Guess fear and loathing of the people is de rigor in both parties

===

I'm surprised but Beck is actually being mature-ish, for him. Disappointed becoz I wanted to hear crying again, admittedly.

FWLIW, he's asking his listeners whether they're upholding a Man or a set of principles, then asking them to petition the nominee to uphold his Oath.

So, he's taking the Obstructionist tack basically. Which is fine.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 09:49 AM (3ZtZW)

460 I am supporting the Republican Ticket in November

Now can we talk about my Yankees?

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2016 09:49 AM (Ozsfq)

461 Good morning from SoCal ... I see the Pro Hillary supporters here are still Pro Hillary after having a night to sleep on it... I do hope you change your minds. Maybe after a summer of listening to that lovely voice you will rethink it all ....

Posted by: E.T. at May 04, 2016 09:49 AM (c+7Ko)

462 >>Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:22 AM (pY6mC)

1] Assassin
2] I move around a lot

Posted by: International at May 04, 2016 09:50 AM (NOIQH)

463 "Somebody attacked peaches?"

Yeah, it was pretty shitty. Yesterday.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:50 AM (9ym/8)

464
Lots of vote flouncing going on here. LOL

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 09:50 AM (iQIUe)

465 For the last four months, all I've heard from Trump supporters is that I'm an idiot, a "cuckservative," an "establishment tool," and a whole range of epithets.

And Trump supporters have been called racists, nativists, white supremacists, fascists, idiots, inbred hicks, yada yada yada.

One idiot calls another idiot an idiot, and pretty soon its every entire group going after every other entire group.

Collateral damage multiplies butthurt. Pretty soon everyone's just lashing out of hurt feelings.

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 09:50 AM (uz/Pv)

466 Of course, the opposite side of the Beck equation is Hannity. He is sure to be a smug asshole today.......can't take that guy anymore either....

Posted by: FITP at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (VIs9d)

467 "Now can we talk about my Yankees? "

I'm hoping the Rangers can kick their ass in the ALCS.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (9ym/8)

468 "If they felt personally attacked, they would also not vote for the people who were attacking them."

What does this even mean? Stupid statement.

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (pY6mC)

469 Never Trump means Never Trump

Posted by: lauren at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (Covpc)

470 On a par with accusing your opponents father of
helping to kill Kennedy? Or calling an opponents wife a suicide waiting
to happen? Please.

Let it go.

Posted by: MTF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yeah worse. From a Cruz supporter.

Your moral equivalency equation doesn't work Your SJW skills need work.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (Gwldq)

471 I don't see how someone who works for a "conservative" organization can promote voting for Hillary and still keep their job.

I mean, I know how they can justify it to themselves, but in the long run their credibility is finished and they should move on to other work either at the DNC or fast food.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (4ErVI)

472 I am seeing article after article today on blogs that claim we are doomed and will not win the White House and will also lose the Senate because of Trump.

The GOP ran shitbirds in 2008 and 2012.

The GOP has outdone itself with the shit they've pulled in Senate races.

They can hide behind trump's hairpiece all they want. They're assholes.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (326rv)

473 On a par with accusing your opponents father of helping to kill Kennedy? Or calling an opponents wife a suicide waiting to happen? Please.

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It was worse and uncalled for.

Posted by: Cyndi Lauper at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (nbrY/)

474 Personal attacks between the candidates(or against the candidates) don't bother me,personal attacks against supporters,who are fellow morons ,bothered me.

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:51 AM (B48dK)

475 I think we're all bright enough to see what's coming here.

We will have a professional politician as President because that's what the professional politicians want. This is an exclusive club and the members want to keep it that way.

We will do our part to support that construct and it is clear by the comments on this thread and previously that it is thus.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (4ng05)

476 456 I heard someone who supported Cruz say something so vile last night to one of the nicest people here.
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On a par with accusing your opponents father of helping to kill Kennedy? Or calling an opponents wife a suicide waiting to happen? Please.

Let it go.
Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:48 AM (/m8T6)

See #452. On par? More like an eagle. "I hope you die of cancer like your mother".

Yeah. Not letting that one go.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (cWLG9)

477 Off sock

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (nbrY/)

478 Brexit Leader: Keep Sending Obama Over
Movement to leave EU saw bounce in polls after President Obamas visit

Banks is optimistic about the referendum vote, despite close polling, because core supporters of Brexit tend to be more energized. A new poll following Obamas visit saw Brexit gaining support over the Remain campaign, 51 to 49 percent.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (Ozsfq)

479 If you are a Trump supporter like the guys in the Trump supporter vs Ted Cruz video , then yes you're an idiot.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (HWLn9)

480 "Never Trump means Never Trump"

No...NeverTrump means AlwaysLiberal.

Don't preach to others about conservatism when you are actively working for the Hillary campaign.

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (pY6mC)

481 So I suppose if Trump is elected, the backup at the Canadian border crossings will be jammed up for awhile. I posted a article about a Baltimore company ready to expedite your way to your new country (for a fee) by printing for you the necessary papers.

Posted by: Colin at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (jitap)

482 Red State is right that the Senate should confirm Garland right now. The calculus has changed. He's the best we can hope for.

Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 09:53 AM (Ypc8j)

483 Okay, Trump supporters. Give me a reason to vote for Trump that isn't "He isn't Hillary." Principles, positions, anticipated policies. Something I can quote back to other people.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 09:53 AM (3hIZX)

484 Trump could get a huge portion of the Bernie vote with a short statement:

If elected, I will name Bernie Sanders my Secretary of Weed.

Posted by: t-bird at May 04, 2016 09:53 AM (oFSUK)

485 Brexit Leader: Keep Sending Obama Over
Movement to leave EU saw bounce in polls after President Obamas visit

How does one say "shitmidas' en francais?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 04, 2016 09:53 AM (326rv)

486 If you are a Trump supporter like the guys in the Trump supporter vs Ted Cruz video , then yes you're an idiot.

And what if they aren't?

Posted by: Bigfoot (sans Wildboy) at May 04, 2016 09:53 AM (uz/Pv)

487 Was the peaches troll a regular?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (HWLn9)

488 If you are a Trump supporter like the guys in the Trump supporter vs Ted Cruz video , then yes you're an idiot.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (HWLn9)

yeah that's helpful

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (Ozsfq)

489 Yes when you have no retort to facts and criticism the only response is to call your opponents unhinged .
People are never trump for valid reasons. The reasons have been laid out in a coherent manner only to be dismissed with the wave of a hand . The opposition has been anything but unhinged.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (HWLn9)

I state my reasons every single day. I am the one who is dismissed for a wave of the hand, for whichever of the following reasons is most relevant to the topic at hand:

-[]'s stated policies are too insane and unworkable, and in his ironclad commitment to them he'll drive away voters
-[]'s stated policies are just a clever liberal lie, he'll really do the exact opposite
-[]'s stated policies are a lie and he doesn't actually have ANY policies because he's so stupid he tries to eat his cereal with a fork every morning.

We are talking past each other and have been for months now. Each side is considering a completely different reality, a completely unrelated set of "facts." This is a function of the left's unmooring society from reality for the past several decades. It has reached even us. And we've gotten used to it.

The country is on its way to electing someone who rejects that consensus leftist narrative of reality (that there isn't one!) and substitutes his own. It isn't perfect. But it's better than what the forces of global socialism have in store.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (xuouz)

490 If you are a Trump supporter like the guys in the Trump supporter vs Ted Cruz video , then yes you're an idiot."

I might agree. But one would have to question the politcal wisdom of Ted Cruz for actually walking over there to engage them. It was not a smart thing to do.

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (pY6mC)

491 One silver lining to all of this...

The liberals on my Facebook feed are a bit on the apoplectic side.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (PFy0L)

492 Get your head out of your ass.

Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr

I listened to radio this morning and was lectured that as a Cruz supporter - I just need to get over it and back Trump.

Telling people to get over it and to get their heads out of their asses, etc. isn't actually healing the party rift is it?

I am a tax paying American who has worn the uniform of my country like so many here in the horde. I won't be told to be a good little bobble head and just vote for R because it is my duty. I honestly don't know at this point what I will do come the election.

Posted by: Cheri at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (oiNtH)

493 Looks like Festivus came early this year with the airing of grievances.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (JO9+V)

494 484 I prefer the title Herb Czar.

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (B48dK)

495 I just want to talk more about painting each other with brushes.

That's EXACTLY my kind of perversion.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (8v0G6)

496 154 Many times I've mentioned, for example, the comments section at Breitbart as shrill and overemotional examples of the support for Donald Trump.
08:44 AM (4ErVI)

In my opinion the comments at Breitbart were a cesspool long before Trump came along. There are sometimes 2000-3000 comments to an article, most of which are the text equivalent of grunting. Disqus comment sections in general have a poor signal-to-noise ratio. I don't know why.

Posted by: rickl at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (zoehZ)

497 Just to clarify, I am not withholding my vote from Trump *just* because his supporters are assholes.

It's also because Donald Trump is an asshole, his advisors are assholes, and his supporters are assholes.

And because he is ignorant of really basic things a president should know, like what the Nuclear Triad is, and that there's no such thing as the "Department of Environmental."

It's because he is a New York liberal with a lifetime record of financially supporting politicians like Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, and Terry McAuliffe.

It's because he ran a gutter campaign and any vote I cast for him would be an endorsement of that campaign.

It's because I think all of his tough immigration talk was a con, and his history suggests it probably was.

It's because eight years under a thin-skinned autocratic megalomaniac was enough.

It's because his tax cut proposal is just warmed over Bush-Ryanism, when we really need a top-to-bottom rework of the tax code.

It's because he thinks using eminent domain to kick old ladies out of their houses to build a car park for limos is a great thing.

It's because his character is nonexistent, his policies are lacking, and his ethics are as bad as Hillary's.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (O7MnT)

498
From the PJ link:

"I wouldn't want to be Mrs. Clinton at this moment. Her dreams of justifying her years of personal humiliation with a presidential victory are about to be thrashed as thoroughly as were those of the fifteen other Trump competitors on the Republican side."

I agree -- and I salivate.

Posted by: iforgot at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (pC96u)

499 How does one say "shitmidas' en francais?
Posted by: Blue Hen at May 04, 2016 09:53 AM (326rv)

Le meed-ahss du merde

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (xuouz)

500 This really is all it's going to be all day, isn't it?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (9krrF)

501 482 Red State is right that the Senate should confirm Garland right now. The calculus has changed. He's the best we can hope for.
Posted by: Naes

I can spare this guy. he just surrenders.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (nFwvY)

502 Correct, it's a vote for whichever party in our binary system is less scrupulous, a vote for your own powerlessness, and demonstrates a commitment to complaining but not acting to improve your situation.

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I have no clue if this will happen or not, but let's say that Trump and Hillary receive a much lower percentage of the vote than previous elections. One of them will still likely win, but winning with a smaller portion of the electorate does send a message. How big that message is - I cannot say. And it would not change the fact that one of them would be the President. But it would weaken whatever mandate they may think they have. This may simply be a matter of degrees, but it is still true nonetheless.

Right now, there are so many factors and so many unknowns.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (gmeXX)

503 "No...NeverTrump means AlwaysLiberal. "

Nope. You picked this fucker, not me. And I have no obligation to support someone I think is unfit for office. If the goal was stopping Hillary, there were 16 other candidates who weren't repulsive to pick from. I would have (begrudgingly in some cases) voted for any of those 16 candidates.

I will not vote for Trump because I think he will be a catastrophic president. The fact that he (presumably, for now) has an R after his name doesn't change that.

Posted by: lauren at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (Covpc)

504 Fine, if that's how you feel, Trumpkins. The Libertarians will welcome my support.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:39 AM (O7MnT)

Someone on the internet said something mean to you, so you're taking your ball and going home?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (vRKfn)

505 My keyboard is dying. I tried to say:

If Elizabeth WarreN had any respect for the disadvantaged she would NOT have pretended to be a native American in order to steal jobs from them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (iQIUe)

506 If you are a Trump supporter like the guys in the Trump supporter vs Ted Cruz video , then yes you're an idiot.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (HWLn9)

And if you're a Cruz supporter like the one that attacked Peaches, you're OK?

What is your argument ?

Posted by: dDan at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (hwYmz)

507 Don't preach to others about conservatism when you are actively working for the Hillary campaign.

Donald Trump has done more active support and work for Hillary Clinton than I ever have or will.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (PFy0L)

508 @483
Joncelli, the top 3:

1. Is he breaks the left's stranglehold on the media
2. The Wall (aka enforce existing laws including wall legislation)
3. CC license be recognized in all states, like driver's licenses

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (nbrY/)

509 I'm not supporting Trump because he's poopy! His policies are poopy! And if you support him, well guess what you are?

YOU'RE POOPY TOO

Posted by: Leon "Snapping Turtle" Wolf at May 04, 2016 09:57 AM (xuouz)

510 Now will see about the "Donald is a stalking horse" theory if he starts to Trump on HRC and the Bern.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I

Won't be the 1st time I've worn a raincoat to the polls.

Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2016 09:57 AM (DL2i+)

511 Amen V the K

Posted by: lauren at May 04, 2016 09:58 AM (Covpc)

512 500 Don't blame me Cavil. I tried to get the body painting thing going.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 09:58 AM (8v0G6)

513 482 Red State is right that the Senate should confirm Garland right now. The calculus has changed. He's the best we can hope for.

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I am not confident that Trump will nominate a conservative (even if he were to win - which I think is much more possible than some of the nevertrump people). But this strikes me a very dumb and shortsighted.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 09:58 AM (gmeXX)

514 510 "Won't be the 1st time I've worn a raincoat to the polls."

With nothing underneath?

Posted by: steevy at May 04, 2016 09:58 AM (B48dK)

515 487 Was the peaches troll a regular?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (HWLn9)

Man this is just sad. Yep Peaches has been around for a long time, but a troll? Because she supports Trump?

To quote the millenial dummies Wow just wow I can't even in the current year.

This is really sad stuff to see. Peaches is not a troll.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 09:58 AM (4ErVI)

516 To much crazy this AM here.

Never Hillary

later

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 04, 2016 09:59 AM (Ozsfq)

517 If you are a Trump supporter like the guys in the Trump supporter vs Ted Cruz video , then yes you're an idiot.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:52 AM (HWLn9)

I have my doubts about him as an actual Trump supporter-

his 2 big points-

gun control - which he didn't seem to know anything about or the 2nd amendment

and

his quote as near as I can remember it "that you want to carpet bomb women and children" - sounds straight out of the Democrat/progtard playbook.

Not that we've ever seen Democrats try to stir up trouble with false supporters before.

Noooop.

Never happens.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 09:59 AM (oU3Bb)

518 Man this is just sad. Yep Peaches has been around for a long time, but a troll? Because she supports Trump?

To quote the millenial dummies Wow just wow I can't even in the current year.

This is really sad stuff to see. Peaches is not a troll.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 09:58 AM (4ErVI)

The troll he was referring to was the person who attacked peaches, not peaches.

Posted by: Leon at May 04, 2016 09:59 AM (xuouz)

519 508 @483
Joncelli, the top 3:

1. Is he breaks the left's stranglehold on the media
2. The Wall (aka enforce existing laws including wall legislation)
3. CC license be recognized in all states, like driver's licenses
Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (nbrY/)

He's already walked back the wall.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 10:00 AM (3hIZX)

520 Wow! And to think that I got zinged a while ago for saying that people considered Trump worse than Obama.

I must have been smoking some good shit alright.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at May 04, 2016 10:00 AM (4ng05)

521 Peaches troll was a guy named "ugh". Been here before, not quite a regular. Not quite a drive by troll

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:00 AM (zOTsN)

522 He's already walked back the wall.
Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 10:00 AM (3hIZX)

Wow that's big. Link?

Posted by: Leon at May 04, 2016 10:00 AM (xuouz)

523 Heh, sock off.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 10:00 AM (xuouz)

524 Don't worry, we'll comfort ourselves by saying that Clinton will be a despised president and she'll oversee an economic collapse that will destroy the Democratic Party. Of course this didn't happen in the last 8 years despite all the ridiculous predictions like "Obama will not seek a 2nd term" and "Hillary will be indicted." So pucker up; those grapes will be sour.

Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (Ypc8j)

525 Sigh.

Looks like it's going to be a bad day for the Horde.

I'll catch up with y'all later. Get it out of your system and refocus. There's much work to be done and we're no good to anyone if we rip ourselves to shreds.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (9krrF)

526 I wonder what it sold for? Those Old Money places on the lake are
ridiculous. I think one of them was built for around 35 million -- during
the Depression! Can you imagine that?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 04, 2016 09:35 AM (dFi94)

===========
No idea. Cant find sale but I cant see why she wd still own it. She has bought another house in Colorado:

http://goo.gl/82yAYo

The rich and famous are dumping real estate. I'm sure their financial managers have warned them of the coming housing crash.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (iQIUe)

527 Defeatism, it's not just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by: davidt at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (8aOqE)

528 "Donald Trump has done more active support and work for Hillary Clinton than I ever have or will."

Sorry...your SPIN attempt won't work.

But hey, now that you mention it, how much active support have you given Hillary?

Posted by: Hector at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (pY6mC)

529 >>"I wouldn't want to be Mrs. Clinton at this moment. Her dreams of
justifying her years of personal humiliation with a presidential
victory are about to be thrashed as thoroughly as were those of the
fifteen other Trump competitors on the Republican side."

Because Trump will not hold back?

I *hope* that will happen.....

Posted by: International at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (NOIQH)

530 Ahh thanks guys. Sorry Joe! Didn't know the whole story and read your comment wrong.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (4ErVI)

531 487 Was the peaches troll a regular?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (HWLn9)

The guy who trolled peaches was Urgh or Ugh or something. Don't think he's a regular.
A thread before that, when I said the main issue this election is that Americans need jobs he went off and called me white trailer trash and a Marxist.
It was some impressive pretzel logic, to be sure.

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 10:02 AM (nbrY/)

532 The onus is on Trump to try to win the support of those of us conservatives who worked against him. Many of us (myself included) are beyond persuasion, but there are many who are not. It is possible that not being Hillary is the best case for Trump. But I would try to find other ways too.

I won't vote Trump in 2016. But I won't rule out 2020 (should he win). He will then have four years to earn my vote and convince me that what I think about him is wrong.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:02 AM (gmeXX)

533 Pass that shit Mr Bean.

On the left hand side, of course.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 10:02 AM (8v0G6)

534 "Man this is just sad. Yep Peaches has been around for a long time, but a troll? Because she supports Trump? "

No, not peaches. Another went after her in a very personal way. A way I know.

Got zotted.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 10:03 AM (9ym/8)

535 Just because I liked it :"The Lord Is Your Shadow"-a Holy Land moments devotional

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jgkg6mq

Seems like a good day to spend as little time here as possible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2016 10:03 AM (w4NZ8)

536 >>>>>
508 @483

Joncelli, the top 3:

1. Is he breaks the left's stranglehold on the media

2. The Wall (aka enforce existing laws including wall legislation)

3. CC license be recognized in all states, like driver's licenses

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (nbrY/)

He's already walked back the wall.
.
.
.
.
.I knew that would happen. My number one reason on why I will hold my nose and vote Trump is SCOTUS. There is no way on this planet that he would make a worse pick than hillary. That alone should motivate everyone who is saying , no I just won't vote.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 04, 2016 10:03 AM (iONHu)

537 >>Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:54 AM (HWLn9)
<<

How long you been here and where did you come from?

Because a fair degree of the people here have been around for years.

You're entitled to your opinion. But you might want to wind your neck in a bit.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:03 AM (O0lVq)

538 People are never trump for valid reasons. The reasons have been laid out in a coherent manner only to be dismissed with the wave of a hand . The opposition has been anything but unhinged.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 09:47 AM (HWLn9)

Yeah, it's like Trump saying in his tweet last night that Cruz was a wacko and acting unpresidential (I know) after Cruz went off on him and called him an immoral pathological liar, all accurate descriptions.

Of course, he neglected to give the important context that his insane wacko self had basically accused Cruz's father of being in cahoots with Lee Harvey Oswald.

He won yesterday and he still sent out those idiotic juvenile tweets.

Yeah, that doesn't inspire me to vote for him.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:03 AM (Mt8T4)

539 I heard someone who supported Cruz say something so vile last night to one of the nicest people here.

-------------------------------------------

On a par with accusing your opponents father of helping to kill
Kennedy? Or calling an opponents wife a suicide waiting to happen?
Please.
Let it go. Posted by: MTF at May 04, 2016 09:48 AM (/m8T6)
=====

All morning a certain puppet has been bringing up some other puppet. The so-called 'supporter' was nuked immediately.

Why are you bringing it up? Imaginary puppet v puppet arguments?

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 10:03 AM (MIKMs)

540 Yeah, it's suboptimal.

But Donald Trump did not leave Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Ty Woods, and Glenn Doherty to die because of politics.

And then lie repeatedly about it to their families.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 04, 2016 10:04 AM (659DL)

541 I will not forgive Trump for smearing Ted Cruz, a man much better than he could ever hope to be.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:04 AM (Mt8T4)

542
Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (O7MnT)
Amen, brother
But of course your intelligent reasons for not supporting Trump will now be characterized as "aesthetics"

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:04 AM (dpnZC)

543 >>A thread before that, when I said the main issue this election is that
Americans need jobs he went off and called me white trailer trash and a
Marxist.

Oh, that person! LOL
Not a loss to have xer banned.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:05 AM (NOIQH)

544 515 Dark Thrombosis

An apostrophe may have helped but I'm sure others understood peaches troll was referring to the troll that attacked peaches.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 04, 2016 10:05 AM (HWLn9)

545 He's already walked back the wall.
Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at May 04, 2016 10:00 AM (3hIZX)

Not really, he's always said with a door.
I'm a legal immigrant and I support people immigrating who follow the rules, in times when it makes sense. (We came over for the Y2K crunch, frex) on H1-B. There really were not enough programmers then to meet the deadline plus the internet was just beginning to boom. Now H1-B is being abused and I support pausing it indefinitely.

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 10:05 AM (nbrY/)

546 Was the peaches troll a regular?

===

Long enough to know her personal history.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 10:05 AM (3ZtZW)

547
There was a guy at HotAir who finally got banned who called anyone who said anything that could be remotely interpreted as supporting Tump, white trash and their family white trash. He would leave at least a dozen comments in each thread and call some one white trash in each one of them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (iQIUe)

548 FoxNews links that go to their "portal" are unacceptable. Yahoo too.

I understand you're in the business of marketing our eyeballs, but, a bridge too far. Stop.

Posted by: phunctor at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (CKGil)

549 >>Red State is right that the Senate should confirm Garland right now. The calculus has changed. He's the best we can hope for.
Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 09:53 AM (Ypc8j)
<<

Garbage. On what basis? That's either a cowards call or someone more concerned with their own proclivities over those of the voters.

It projects weakness and is the product of questionable judgment. It also lacks temerity and perseverance. I don't even want to breath the same air as people like that.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (O0lVq)

550
500 This really is all it's going to be all day, isn't it?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (9krrF)

It is the start of the Acceptance stage.

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (MQEz6)

551 You know what? Peaches isn't an asshole. She wrote a short note about unity and got wished cancer like her dead mother.

Stop it

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (zOTsN)

552 5. Feels about as strongly about abortion as what he's watching on Cable tonight

How many abortions do you think the Donald has paid for? He bragged about banging models without using condoms in the '80's (it was his Vietnam!) - you think the Donald wanted to be punished with babies any more than Obama does?

Yeah, I would almost be happy to vote for Trump if Milo was his press secretary. Just one small prob - Milo's not an American.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (u0lmX)

553 ...just think of all the enjoyment we will get from billy jeff as the "first dude". It will be glorious ...

Posted by: E.T. at May 04, 2016 10:07 AM (c+7Ko)

554 So, yep. Big Boy. Mature adult who doesn't let the perfect be enemy of the good and throw a tantrum.

And as always-

YMMV.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2016 09:38 AM (oU3Bb

Trump is the childish one.
Wisconsin twitter rant after losing
Rafel Cruz and the JFK assassination
Carly Fioriana's looks
Megyn Kellys period
His reference at a debate about the size of his dick.
The list goes on but Trump supporters at least should be honest and say, yeah the Donnie is a little boi, but it doesn't matter

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 10:07 AM (voOPb)

555 >>He would leave at least a dozen comments in each thread and call some one white trash in each one of them.

Oh, NRO's Kevin Williamson?

I kid, I kid

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:07 AM (NOIQH)

556 547
There was a guy at HotAir who finally got banned who called anyone who said anything that could be remotely interpreted as supporting Tump, white trash and their family white trash. He would leave at least a dozen comments in each thread and call some one white trash in each one of them.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (iQIUe)

Probably the person who posted an article at Red State last night saying if you voted for Donald Trump, you're trash.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 04, 2016 10:07 AM (4ErVI)

557 Pearl clutching and fainting couches status at 95%. 105% is possible but not recommended.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 04, 2016 10:07 AM (JO9+V)

558 You gotta' vote, or not vote, your conscience.

I'm resolved to voting Trump because I can't damn stand Hillary Clinton. But if that's not your cup of tea ... first beer's still on me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 10:08 AM (8v0G6)

559 Did peaches mom really die of cancer? It's pretty creepy that an occasional commenter would know / remember that.

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 10:08 AM (nbrY/)

560 551 You know what? Peaches isn't an asshole. She wrote a short note about unity and got wished cancer like her dead mother.

Stop it
Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:06 AM (zOTsN

Who badmouthed Peaches?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 10:08 AM (voOPb)

561 Red State is right that the Senate should confirm Garland right now. The calculus has changed. He's the best we can hope for.

-------

I am not confident that Trump will nominate a conservative (even if he were to win - which I think is much more possible than some of the nevertrump people). But this strikes me a very dumb and shortsighted.
Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 09:58 AM (gmeXX)

The Red State folks can get a bit hysterical.

Why would you confirm someone sure to be a leftist when you could wait for the Orange Wonder to maybe get elected and pray he stumbles into a decent candidate?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:08 AM (Mt8T4)

562 "Peaches isn't an asshole. She wrote a short note about unity and got wished cancer like her dead mother.

Stop it"

TB, I think there's a misunderstanding. We tried to clear it up above.

peaches was not the attacker.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 10:08 AM (9ym/8)

563 It isn't "reasoning " to say everyone who supports Trump is an asshole. It's a tantrum

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:09 AM (zOTsN)

564 "Who badmouthed Peaches?"

"Ugh"

Zapped by the man himself.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 10:09 AM (9ym/8)

565 >>Yeah, I would almost be happy to vote for Trump if Milo was his press secretary. Just one small prob - Milo's not an American.

That would be fabulous!
He could charge admission to see Milo b#itchslap the WH press corps (kinda like how Rumsfeld press conferences were so entertaining).

(Anything to distract me from the idea of *gasp* President Trump)

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:09 AM (NOIQH)

566 You picked this fucker, not me.
Posted by: lauren at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (Covpc)
-----------

Yeah. I seriously can't believe we're doing this Trump thing. I've been in denial all election season.

Posted by: Lea at May 04, 2016 10:10 AM (lIU4e)

567 563
It isn't "reasoning " to say everyone who supports Trump is an asshole.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:09 AM (zOTsN)

Who said that?

Posted by: Mimzey at May 04, 2016 10:10 AM (aRUb8)

568 But if that's not your cup of tea ... first beer's still on me.

Could you make it a glass of Merlot? I don't like beer. but maybe saying that is a heresy? ;^)

I'll vote for Trump with absolutely no enthusiasm at all-but I guess my mood in voting doesn't matter really

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2016 10:10 AM (w4NZ8)

569 The Red State folks can get a bit hysterical.

Why would you confirm someone sure to be a leftist when you could wait for the Orange Wonder to maybe get elected and pray he stumbles into a decent candidate?

----------

Further, even if you assume that Hillary will win and the Dems will take back the Senate (which is probably likely if she wins) - you can still fight whoever she nominates. Bork one of theirs. Had they borked one of theirs - then maybe Trump wouldn't have happened. Make them invoke the nuclear option. I realize that probably won't happen, but that is what should happen.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:10 AM (gmeXX)

570
**pokes head in**

Safe to come back in????

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2016 10:11 AM (8XRCm)

571 RK I know. I was on that thread. Peaches was attacked.

Someone, V the K, just wrote that everyone who supports Trump is an asshole. While V the K never spoke of peaches, peaches is apparently a Trump supporter. This tantruming and name calling on all sides needs to stop

He

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:11 AM (zOTsN)

572 Did peaches mom really die of cancer? It's pretty creepy that an occasional commenter would know / remember that.
Posted by: @votermom

They either knew, or just took a shot in the dark and got lucky.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 10:11 AM (cWLG9)

573 Long enough to know her personal history.
Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 10:05 AM (3ZtZW)
----

That is really creepy.

Posted by: Lea at May 04, 2016 10:12 AM (lIU4e)

574 The Cruz/Trump is over in the real world.

On the internet it continues.

Trump/Cruz 2016: It's Not Too Late

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 10:12 AM (MQEz6)

575 Safe to come back in????
Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2016 10:11 AM (8XRCm)

Um, got your Kevlar suit on?

Posted by: @votermom at May 04, 2016 10:12 AM (nbrY/)

576 457 "So amazon doesn't even sell magazines. WTF."

Nope. Gotta go the gun sites.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 09:48 AM (9ym/

They're leaving a helluva lot of money on the table

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 10:12 AM (/CXhS)

577
Because Trump will not hold back?

I *hope* that will happen.....
Posted by: International at May 04, 2016 10:01 AM (NOIQH)
------------------------

Well, it was Roger Simon, so because "factors."

I join you in your hope that Trump will not hold back.

It's funny, I saw something recently to the effect that Obama was this once-in-a-lifetime candidate who unfortunately for Hillary happened during her lifetime. Another one might be happening again. Either that or (broken record) the first once-in-a-lifetime candidate may use her own crimes against her to deny her the Dem nomination a second time AND to bury her and her whole rotten dynasty.

Posted by: iforgot at May 04, 2016 10:12 AM (pC96u)

578 Well, I'll vote for Trump in the general, but that will be the extent of my support for him. As far as I'm concerned he's the lesser of two evils, but the lesser of two evils is still evil. I won't donate to or volunteer for the campaign. And I definitely won't be an apologist to help explain away the stupid shit that seems to flow from his mouth on a daily basis.

So congratulations. I'm a Trump voter now. Hope you're happy.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2016 10:12 AM (KUaJL)

579 >>Why would you confirm someone sure to be a leftist when you could wait
for the Orange Wonder to maybe get elected and pray he stumbles into a
decent candidate?

Exactly.
Why would you *guarantee* that Obama could fast-track a lot of stuff, like gun control, with a SCOTUS majority? Not like he wouldn't take full advantage of that in last few months in office. Lord knows what else he has in store for us before he exits...

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (NOIQH)

580 eman, it never really was "Trump/Cruz" though, specifically

It was more like "ignorant populism vs. principled conservatism", and Trump / Cruz were just proxies for those arguments

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (dpnZC)

581 569
Further, even if you assume that Hillary will win and the Dems will take
back the Senate (which is probably likely if she wins) - you can still
fight whoever she nominates. Bork one of theirs. Had they borked one
of theirs - then maybe Trump wouldn't have happened. Make them invoke
the nuclear option. I realize that probably won't happen, but that is
what should happen.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Bork was "Borked" because the Democrats had a majority in the Senate.

Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (Ypc8j)

582 I'm just trying to remember the last time we elected a politician who didn't lie or contradict himself/herself?

I'll be off to Tahiti while someone gets an answer.

All of a sudden there is this high moral expectation from people who by very definition are two-faced.

I believe it's more a matter of who will fulfill most of their promises or perhaps stave off the collapse of our constitutional republic.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (O0lVq)

583 Trump/Cruz 2016: It's Not Too Late

-----------

Seems like a waste of Cruz in the VP slot, and I don't think it will persuade many conservatives. But stranger things have happened - like Trump winning the nomination.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (gmeXX)

584 Safe to come back in????
Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2016 10:11 AM (8XRCm)

Probably not, but it's always nice to see you! :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2016 10:14 AM (w4NZ8)

585 Oh well, Serenity Now!

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 10:14 AM (9ym/8)

586 Why would you *guarantee* that Obama could
fast-track a lot of stuff, like gun control, with a SCOTUS majority? Not
like he wouldn't take full advantage of that in last few months in
office. Lord knows what else he has in store for us before he exits...

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (NOIQH)
SCOTUS couldn't fast-track stuff with only a few months left, they work pretty damn slow

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:14 AM (dpnZC)

587 50 bucks for a mag. F that. I'll wait.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 10:15 AM (/CXhS)

588 I honestly can't wait for the debates.

I'm hoping for:

"You're fired!"
mic drop

Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2016 10:15 AM (DL2i+)

589 Cruz should stay far away from Donald Trump. I think and hope he will. Trump going after his family was beyond the pale.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:15 AM (Mt8T4)

590 "50 bucks for a mag. F that. I'll wait."

What kind?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (9ym/8)

591 Correct me if I'm wrong but Bork was "Borked" because the Democrats had a majority in the Senate.
Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (Ypc8j)

Republicans don't play to win.

It's prevent defense with those guys/gals

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (voOPb)

592 Sorry...your SPIN attempt won't work.

But hey, now that you mention it, how much active support have you given Hillary?

Well, I didn't give the Clinton Foundation over $100k. She wasn't invited to my wedding. That ain't spin. And it's a lot more support than simply refusing to vote this cycle. Trump isn't entitled to my vote.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (PFy0L)

593 So what political hack/non-entity will be his VP choice? He'll probably be trying to sell some shitty book along the way. Gingrich? Kasich? Christie? Huckabee? Carson?

Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (Ypc8j)

594 The best thing about the Obama years is all the unity and healing we've enjoyed.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (JO9+V)

595 It was more like "ignorant populism vs. principled conservatism", and Trump / Cruz were just proxies for those arguments

-------------

Populist nationalism definitely won out over constitutional conservatism. I wish it were not that way. I think the former is wrong and the latter is right.

I'll continue to hope and fight for constitutional conservatism - whether it is Cruz, Sasse, Paul, Lee, or whoever is supporting it.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (gmeXX)

596 Wow, almost 600 comments?
Did I miss something?

Posted by: IP at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (aQQbl)

597

It's because his character is nonexistent, his policies are lacking, and his ethics are as bad as Hillary's.
Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (O7MnT)

You called Trump supporters assholes; how does doing that help your arguments against Trump?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (MQEz6)

598 So what political hack/non-entity will be his VP choice? He'll probably be trying to sell some shitty book along the way. Gingrich? Kasich? Christie? Huckabee? Carson?

-----------

I think Carson would be the best choice, but that's just me.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (gmeXX)

599 590 "50 bucks for a mag. F that. I'll wait."

What kind?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (9ym/

7.62x54r 20 rounder

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (/CXhS)

600 If Cruz thought trump was a threat to the republic he would have stayed in until the convention for it to be brokered. He didn't. He walked away

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (zOTsN)

601 "50 bucks for a mag. F that. I'll wait."

What kind?

H & K USP is $59 at the cheapest I can find. So $50 isn't a stretch. Depending on manufacturer.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (cWLG9)

602 Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (dpnZC)
**
And now, it seems the choice is between 'ignorant populism' and an avowed enemy of whatever remains of the non-prog population.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (lutOX)

603 >>Why would you *guarantee* that Obama could

fast-track a lot of stuff, like gun control, with a SCOTUS majority? Not

like he wouldn't take full advantage of that in last few months in

office. Lord knows what else he has in store for us before he exits...

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (NOIQH)<<

In NY, there is a lawsuit against the unconstitutional gun laws enacted by Cuomo. Once Scalia died, they put it on hold because even a split decision would let the unfavorable lower court ruling stand.

Confirming now guarantees that type of overreach is never rolled backed. It also put another arrow in Obama's quiver to execute that type of action.

The status quo is best.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:18 AM (O0lVq)

604 Yikes! Leon Wolfe is being a total ass over at RS.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:18 AM (iQIUe)

605 I think Carson would be the best choice, but that's just me.
Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (gmeXX)

Two people saying crazy things (one much, much crazier than the other). Should be entertaining, at least.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:18 AM (Mt8T4)

606 If Cruz thought trump was a threat to the republic he would have stayed in until the convention for it to be brokered. He didn't. He walked away

------------

I must say, I am disappointed he walked away. Maybe it was the best move, but I would have liked to have seen him fight this to the end.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:18 AM (gmeXX)

607 V the K, just wrote that everyone who supports Trump is an asshole.

I wrote no such thing. I wrote that he is an asshole, his advisors (Roger Stone in particular) are assholes, and his supporters are assholes... meaning, there are assholes who support Donald Trump; which is demonstrably true. But I never said *ALL* of his supporters are assholes.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 10:19 AM (O7MnT)

608 You called Trump supporters assholes; how does doing that help your arguments against Trump?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 10:16 AM (MQEz6)
Would you like a fainting couch?
For months the Trumpies have called anyone who opposes their Dear Orange Leader a snob who sneers at flyover country, a traitorous collaborator with the left, and much worse than that. Being called an "asshole" is pretty damn mild in comparison. And it's rich to see Trumpies whining about being called names.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:19 AM (dpnZC)

609 @ redeploying labor units:

Having no kids at home, I've lived and worked on assignment for 6 job-shops in 5 states in the last 10 years.

The money's good and I make out on taxes -- they haven't erased the per-diem provisions yet. But moving sucks.

Overall, being flexible about gig location has worked well for me. Good luck, my prayers are with you.

Posted by: phunctor at May 04, 2016 10:19 AM (CKGil)

610 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 04, 2016 10:10 AM

On a more uplifting note, FS, what did you think of the Good Friday service you took in?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2016 10:19 AM (bzd8I)

611 600 If Cruz thought trump was a threat to the republic he would have stayed in until the convention for it to be brokered. He didn't. He walked away
Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (zOTsN)

That is a positive outlook.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (voOPb)

612 You know what? Peaches isn't an asshole. She wrote a short note about unity and got wished cancer like her dead mother.

====

Oh, I've had the same done to me. Not here, thank God. I've learned there's a lot of people I can do without in my life besides the wacko progressives.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (3ZtZW)

613 Just own it V the K. I get it. You are upset. But enough. Let's not be people we are ashamed of

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (zOTsN)

614 For the record, I really don't care what Trump supporters may think of me.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (O7MnT)

615 NOOD

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (t5zYU)

616 I think Carson would be the best choice, but that's just me.
Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (gmeXX)

Two people saying crazy things (one much, much crazier than the other). Should be entertaining, at least.

-------------

I think Carson has a lot more good to say than crazy. I was not a supporter of his, but I did like hearing what he had to say. He strikes me as someone who has a lot of common sense and has thought through many things (maybe not foreign policy). Of course, that made his support of Trump baffling to me.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (gmeXX)

617 7.62x54r 20 rounder
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (/CXhS)

-----

For a VEPR ??

Cuz you aint getting twenty rounds in a 91/30...

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (8XRCm)

618
580 eman, it never really was "Trump/Cruz" though, specifically

It was more like "ignorant populism vs. principled conservatism", and Trump / Cruz were just proxies for those arguments
Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (dpnZC)

Really? You had to say "ignorant populism"?

Saying "populism vs. conservatism" wasn't good enough?

When are you going to stop with the insults?

Posted by: eman at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (MQEz6)

619
Is grammie winger about? I wanted to catch up with her about something.

Posted by: iforgot at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (pC96u)

620 Bork one of theirs. Had they borked one of theirs
- then maybe Trump wouldn't have happened. Make them invoke the
nuclear option. I realize that probably won't happen, but that is what
should happen.

Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:10 AM (gmeXX)

Your joking, right? Turtle and company playin hardball? LMAO

Posted by: Dude in MI at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (0LQ4f)

621 >>
Yikes! Leon Wolfe is being a total ass over at RS.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:18 AM (iQIUe)
<<

There was a time when they were mostly good people. That time has passed.

They are now ready to pass out the Kool-Aid Jim Jones style and take everyone with them.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:21 AM (O0lVq)

622 If Cruz thought trump was a threat to the republic he would have stayed in until the convention for it to be brokered. He didn't. He walked away
Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:17 AM (zOTsN)

After the Indiana loss, Trump was almost certain to meet the 1237 threshold. Why stay in after that?

The fact that he dropped out doesn't mean he thinks Trump won't be that bad.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:21 AM (Mt8T4)

623 It isn't "reasoning " to say everyone who supports Trump is an asshole.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:09 AM (zOTsN)

Who said that?

497
Just to clarify, I am not withholding my vote from Trump *just* because his supporters are assholes.

It's also because Donald Trump is an asshole, his advisors are assholes, and his supporters are assholes.

posted by V the K

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 10:22 AM (Gwldq)

624 Trump/Carson would be perfect.

The ignorant clown, and the brain surgeon in over his head.

Almost like Perot/Stockdale, but with more coloring.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:22 AM (dpnZC)

625 For you Fen, merlot it is. But not some crazy expensive vintage, 'cause my pockets ain't THAT deep.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 04, 2016 10:22 AM (8v0G6)

626 "So $50 isn't a stretch. Depending on manufacturer."

I gave $50 for a Remington (Bushmaster) a few years ago. It costs what it costs.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 04, 2016 10:22 AM (9ym/8)

627 I suppose we could try turning around, but what's the point? It's not like there are any other targets out there.

Posted by: Circular Firing Squad at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (XkVXQ)

628
For a VEPR ??

Cuz you aint getting twenty rounds in a 91/30...

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (8XRCm)

Yep

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (/CXhS)

629 "So congratulations. I'm a Trump voter now. Hope you're happy."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 04, 2016 10:12 AM (KUaJL)

Welcome, Joe.

And if, by mistake, you should find yourself sent to reeducation camp after the election, I will see to it you are made a trustee and granted special privileges.

Posted by: jwest at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (Zs4uk)

630 616
Of course, that made his support of Trump baffling to me.

$$$$$
You can store a lot of money in those hollow pyramids.

Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (Ypc8j)

631 But I never said *ALL* of his supporters are assholes.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well done, my young apprentice.

Posted by: Hillary at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (Gwldq)

632 >>The fact that he dropped out doesn't mean he thinks Trump won't be that bad.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:21 AM (Mt8T4)
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Rational thought! Rational thought! Stone her!

Even in Trump's speech last night, I was surprised at some of the nice things he said about Cruz. Stunned actually.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (O0lVq)

633 Long enough to know her personal history.
Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 10:05 AM (3ZtZW)
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That is really creepy.

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Its why I say I'm not anybody's friend. I like you guys, but no, I don't know you. You're all werewolves as far as I know.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (3ZtZW)

634 Would you like a fainting couch?
For months the
Trumpies have called anyone who opposes their Dear Orange Leader a snob
who sneers at flyover country, a traitorous collaborator with the left,
and much worse than that. Being called an "asshole" is pretty damn mild
in comparison. And it's rich to see Trumpies whining about being called
names.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:19 AM (dpnZC)

The only name calling I've seen here is from Cruz supporters.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (vRKfn)

635 Thing is I don't want to drop 50 when I see most reviews showing most mags holding 10+ are shitty.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 10:24 AM (/CXhS)

636 It's because his character is nonexistent, his policies are lacking, and his ethics are as bad as Hillary's.

Posted by: V the K at May 04, 2016 09:55 AM (O7MnT)
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^^^THIS^^^

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 04, 2016 10:24 AM (MIKMs)

637 566 You picked this fucker, not me.
Posted by: lauren at May 04, 2016 09:56 AM (Covpc)
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Yeah. I seriously can't believe we're doing this Trump thing. I've been in denial all election season.
Posted by: Lea at May 04, 2016 10:10 AM (lIU4e)

I suppose I've been in denial, too. I thought most Americans supported constitutional governance. I was wrong.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at May 04, 2016 10:24 AM (eHpnh)

638 Correct me if I'm wrong but Bork was "Borked" because the Democrats had a majority in the Senate.
Posted by: Naes at May 04, 2016 10:13 AM (Ypc8j)

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But many pubes are aholes who are more interested in their pay and pension. Just getting them to not confirm Garland required breaking legs. Now RS is screaming to confirm Garland. He's not a moderate and a horrible choice.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:24 AM (iQIUe)

639 george soros is a #nevertrump.....#yuck

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2016 10:24 AM (0O7c5)

640 Chem Jeff.

1. I am not a "Trumpie". I voted for Cruz

2. I require no fainting couch

3. I have called no supporters names. Ok. Except for the Rubio operatives who planted stories about Cruz in the National Enquirer.

4. Not being a Trump supporter, I still know good people who are. Like peaches. Calling them assholes because you are upset is childish.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:24 AM (zOTsN)

641 I think Carson has a lot more good to say than crazy. I was not a supporter of his, but I did like hearing what he had to say. He strikes me as someone who has a lot of common sense and has thought through many things (maybe not foreign policy). Of course, that made his support of Trump baffling to me.
Posted by: SH at May 04, 2016 10:20 AM (gmeXX)

That's what I originally thought. He said some weird things after getting on the Trump train though.

But yes, he actually has coherent thoughts and speaks in sentences without too much word reputation. Plus he isn't clinically insane. So he would bring good balance to the ticket.

Anyway gotta get to working.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:25 AM (Mt8T4)

642 The only name calling I've seen here is from Cruz supporters.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket

It's pointless. The Trump Hate Orgy is in full swing.

Gotta pay bills. Later.

Posted by: Mortimer at May 04, 2016 10:25 AM (Gwldq)

643 The only sure thing until November will be lot's of Pappy Van Winkle. Do they sell a liter size by the way?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:25 AM (O0lVq)

644 The first time Trump sinks Hillary's battleship, rhetorically, there will be more enthusiasm for Trump around here.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at May 04, 2016 10:25 AM (PvCxa)

645
I think we need threads that allow butthurt and those where butthurt is banned.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:25 AM (iQIUe)

646 "Won't be the 1st time I've worn a raincoat to the polls."

With nothing underneath?

mumbles "statute of limitations"

Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2016 10:25 AM (DL2i+)

647 I bid you all a fond adieu. This thread is like the mudpit scene in McClintock. Or a Three Stooges pie fight. Take your pick.

I've got Mother's Day cards to write and get in the mail. Later, homeys!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 04, 2016 10:26 AM (JO9+V)

648 You're all werewolves as far as I know.

Posted by: Bigby's Thumbs Up at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (3ZtZW)

Fuck that. I'm a sparkly vampire.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 04, 2016 10:26 AM (/CXhS)

649 Oh for god's sake.

A lot of Trump supporters ARE assholes.

Is every single one of them an asshole? No.

Is it even a reasonable claim to call every single one of them assholes? No.

Are you going to reach for your fainting couch every time someone says something that might possibly insinuate that you should take it personally? I guess so.

And it is especially rich here on a blog where being called moron is actually a compliment.

This is just about driving the Trumpian narrative that those who oppose His Dear Orange Wonder are unreasonable haters. That's all, just narrative pushing. V the K laid out some solid reasons why Trump isn't due any support from people who have conservative sympathies and have a conscience. And you all focus on the one thing that gets you upset so that you can avoid the discussion on the actual problems that Der Trumpenfuhrer have. Just like Trump himself, when someone asks him a hard question, he deflects and then says something totally ridiculous that gets everyone talking about that instead. What, he doesn't know what a nuclear triad is? But but but... TED CRUZ'S DAD SHOT JFK!!!!! This is ridiculous and transparently phony. Get over it.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:27 AM (dpnZC)

650 The only name calling I've seen here is from Cruz supporters.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (vRKfn)
Did you just start reading the blog today or something?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:28 AM (dpnZC)

651 All the "intelligent" arguments against Trump are as selective as the hyperbolic arguments of his koolaid drinking supporters. His rebuttals to accusations of liberalism are held up as evidence that he's a lying liberal.

It's relentlessly tautological. It is based on an assumption about his character. And this assumption is a gut reaction.

What informs gut reactions?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 04, 2016 10:29 AM (xuouz)

652 Rational thought! Rational thought! Stone her!

Even in Trump's speech last night, I was surprised at some of the nice things he said about Cruz. Stunned actually.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:23 AM (O0lVq)

You may have misunderstood me. My point in response to ThunderB's comment was that I don't think Cruz dropping out means he doesn't think Donald is a threat to the republic. It was the practical decision to make since Trump is now virtually unstoppable.

And Trump can shove any positive things he's now saying about Cruz up his rear. (My ire is directed at him, not you.)

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:29 AM (Mt8T4)

653 Der Trumpenfuhrer.

Try not to be someone you are ashamed of

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:30 AM (zOTsN)

654 My husband and I were discussing that JJ judgement last night when it aired on the news.
I am honestly curious about how the heck she was using it as a "feminine hygiene product" that it got all the way up past the cervix, through the uterus, and the tubes, to her ovaries.
My husband said he did. not.want. to know.
Is there some kind of douche cannon for powder, or what?

Posted by: barbarausa at May 04, 2016 10:30 AM (h3IJ6)

655 >>In NY, there is a lawsuit against the unconstitutional gun laws enacted
by Cuomo. Once Scalia died, they put it on hold because even a split
decision would let the unfavorable lower court ruling stand.

Thanks - I knew there was a gun case in queue for SCOTUS review, and Obama's nominee is reportedly pro-gun control.

Given how ineffective the GOP has been at outsmarting Obama (because they seem to always underestimate how brazenly he'll just do what he wants), I just do not buy any cutesy "We'll give Obama who he wants just so that this takes the choice away from Hillary."

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:31 AM (NOIQH)

656 Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:24 AM (zOTsN)

It is not even a reasonable claim to call every single Trump supporter an asshole. To interpret V the K's statement as such is to be looking for an insult so that you can run to your fainting couch and play the role of the victim.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:31 AM (dpnZC)

657 Did you just start reading the blog today or something?

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:28 AM (dpnZC)

No, and you've been one of the worst offenders.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 10:31 AM (vRKfn)

658 Did I ever tell you how I got into an internet spat with a Jonestown survivor? He ran away and left his wife and baby to die. Granted, his wife was a nut to the end but he could have grabbed the baby and run into the jungle.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:32 AM (iQIUe)

659 I'm just happy that the open borders crowd is freaking out.

Posted by: @votermom ignorant populist at May 04, 2016 10:33 AM (nbrY/)

660 I recently discovered Andrew Klavan's podcast. It's delightful and I am going to laugh along with him as the crazy train keeps on chugging along.

Trump vs. H Clinton

What a country.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:33 AM (Mt8T4)

661 I hope Ace takes the day off.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 04, 2016 10:33 AM (iQIUe)

662 Chique I didn't mean to imply that Cruz was endorsing Trump. But Cruz strikes me as the kind of fella who would have stayed in to the bitter end all the way to the convention if he believed Trump were a threat to the republic. Sort of like the "shut down". He may still do that, work against Trump in the general. But I don't think Cruz would quit if he believed Trump were the existential threat many here believe Trump is

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:33 AM (zOTsN)

663 >>And Trump can shove any positive things he's now saying about Cruz up his rear. (My ire is directed at him, not you.)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:29 AM (Mt8T4)
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Understood. But I've been involved and around politics to know it is a bloodsport and therefore today's enemies are tomorrows allies.

People say a lot of things to win. That doesn't make it right, just one part of how the game is played. If I held every thing other politicians stated about those I support, I might as well just walk away for ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:34 AM (O0lVq)

664 and his ethics are as bad as Hillary's.

I'm pretty sure if he'd ever abandoned his employees to death at the hands of terrorists we'd have heard about it.

Same goes for any paid for abortions - no way that wouldn't have been dug up and thrown at him over the course of GOPe 2016 or a career of NY lawsuits.

Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2016 10:34 AM (DL2i+)

665 >>I'm just happy that the open borders crowd is freaking out.

Yeah, at least there's that!
Expect the riots to double now - we're in for an, uh, interesting6 months.
Let's try to direct fire at the Left instead of each other.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 04, 2016 10:35 AM (NOIQH)

666 No, and you've been one of the worst offenders.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at May 04, 2016 10:31 AM (vRKfn)
Actually, I think I have been rather mild in my criticism of Trump's supporters. I have tried to stay away from labeling ALL of them as ignorant hillbillies, because I know that is not the case. Initially, back the fall, I tried to make cogent arguments about why Trump was a bad idea and that Republicans should favor a more principled constitutional conservative. But MOST of the Trumpies weren't going for it. They were intent on declaring that they were supporting Trump for purely emotional reasons, out of rage or false hope or blind trust. Believe me if you think I've been the worst then you should get out more.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:36 AM (dpnZC)

667 Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:33 AM (zOTsN)

I don't know what's in Cruz's mind. But I suspect he believes we just made a grave error. We will see.

I don't expect him to formally work against Trump, but I don't expect him to help either.

And in the end, Trump and Clinton are just symptoms or avatars of what ails the country, IMO.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:37 AM (Mt8T4)

668 If you think politics are cogent and rational, you must have been on vacation for the last eight years...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 04, 2016 10:37 AM (O0lVq)

669 I'm pretty sure if he'd ever abandoned his employees to death at the hands of terrorists we'd have heard about it.

Posted by: DaveA at May 04, 2016 10:34 AM (DL2i+)

When would he have had the opportunity to do this?

I'm not saying he would, but I think it's a silly argument. Unless I'm missing something.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 04, 2016 10:38 AM (Mt8T4)

670 I'm pretty sure if he'd ever abandoned his employees to death at the hands of terrorists we'd have heard about it.

Honestly, if Trump had been in Hillary's shoes in 2012, I don't think he would have acted much differently than Hillary had. Like Hillary, he is about preserving himself over doing his duty. Look at the number of times he has used the bankruptcy code to get out of bad deals. Did he think for a minute how terrible it was that he was stiffing his creditors? I doubt he gave it a moment's thought. Now of course letting civilians die in a warzone is much different than stiffing creditors, but the same basic logic applies.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:42 AM (dpnZC)

671 Chem Jeff last fall you were arguing for open borders. Still are.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:43 AM (zOTsN)

672 ThunderB, that's why he's freaking out.

Posted by: @votermom ignorant populist at May 04, 2016 10:44 AM (nbrY/)

673 Stiffing creditors in no way shape or form is the same as ignoring calls for help and leaving people to die and then lie about it

No way

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:44 AM (zOTsN)

674 671
Chem Jeff last fall you were arguing for open borders. Still are.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 04, 2016 10:43 AM (zOTsN)
I have never, not once, argued for open borders. That is a myth and I challenge anyone to find any quote anywhere where I have said "let's have open borders" or anything similar.

I *HAVE* argued for not treating illegals like dirt, respecting their basic humanity, and reforming our immigration system at the same time that we secure the border.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:45 AM (dpnZC)

675 672
ThunderB, that's why he's freaking out.

Posted by: @votermom ignorant populist at May 04, 2016 10:44 AM (nbrY/)
I challenge you to find any quote from me at any time where I advocated for open borders.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:46 AM (dpnZC)

676 Re abandoning employees
There is a black woman employee of Trump who made a touching video about the Trump family. Let me know if I should dig up the link.

Posted by: @votermom ignorant populist at May 04, 2016 10:46 AM (nbrY/)

677 Pretty sure I've read a lot of comments from you, cj, putting racism towards anyone who thinks illegal.immigrant a should be deported.
Unless that was another chemjeff.

Posted by: @votermom ignorant populist at May 04, 2016 10:48 AM (nbrY/)

678 Putting = imputing

Posted by: @votermom ignorant populist at May 04, 2016 10:49 AM (nbrY/)

679 677
Pretty sure I've read a lot of comments from you, cj, putting racism
towards anyone who thinks illegal.immigrant a should be deported.

Unless that was another chemjeff.

Posted by: @votermom ignorant populist at May 04, 2016 10:48 AM (nbrY/)
That is also not true. I am in favor of deporting illegals, because they have broken the law. What I have derided is the notion that illegals represent some "Mexican invasion" or some horrible terrible threat akin to a military-style invasion. People who try to link illegals to paranoid nutty Reconquista theories, things like that. I don't tolerate that kind of nuttery and I do think MANY - not ALL, but MANY - who hold these theories use arguments that derive from some fairly racist premises.
For instance not long ago there were some commenters here who claimed that individuals who fly Mexican flags aren't "real citizens" even if they have legal citizenship papers. And I pointed out that we don't hold that standard for hillbillies who fly Confederate flags. Hell, people who fly Canadian flags don't seem to bother most people. So why do Mexican flags get people so upset? You tell me. I have my answer but I don't think you will agree with it.

Posted by: chemjeff - Libertarian at May 04, 2016 10:58 AM (dpnZC)

680 Trump isn't the big problem, the GOPe is. When they tossed !Jeb! out there with his plan to win without the base Trump filled a void. I'm a Cruz supporter that recognizes the country as a whole is afraid of the truth. Vic nailed it long ago. Most of us here have no party.

Ted Cruz made a statement in his book about being excited to join the fight to defeat democrats and their policies when he first came to Washington. He quickly discovered there was no fight occurring and he found himself leading a very small army that is for the most part too timid to buck leadership.

Posted by: DanMan at May 04, 2016 11:00 AM (RusNE)

681 I "feel like" Donald Trump is mentally impaired
Posted by: unlawful doctor at May 04, 2016 08:55 AM (e8kgV)
♪ Some times you feel like a nut; some times you don't! ♫

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