Andrea Tarantos Missing in Action at Fox; Chatter of National Review Conspiracies

This is what I call the Social Justice Warriorfication of the right.

Social Justice Warrioring -- identity politics -- posits as a central tenet that the tribe is pure and, more importantly, the other tribes are wicked and full of deceit and evil.

There is always some conspiracy by the other tribes afoot; their sorcerers are always working their dark magic.

Islamists are very sure that Muslim economies would be potent, if not for Jewish machinations and their strange magic of argentomancy. Black radicals are very certain that the CIA is smuggling crack into Compton and every black failure is rooted in "white supremacy." Feminists know the Patriarchy is powerful, terrifying, and full of rape.

And in some quarters on the right, this very same The Other Tribes Are All Scheming Against me thinking is not only indulged, but encouraged as the properly righteous mode of thought.

No, Andrea Tantaros, Charles Cooke was not trying to get you fired, and other people were not goofing on you because you're a "girl."

Embarrassing.

The National Review Cabal -- who of course has outsized (Jew-sized) influence at FoxNews-- must be trying to get her fired for being Too Right or "a girl."

This isn't just about Tarantos' claim -- I know some very, um, energetic Trump supporters are pushing this "Charles Cooke schemed to get Andrea Tarantos fired" line.

While not cited by FNC as a reason for her extended vacation, Tantaros recently claimed during a taping of Outnumbered that certain GOP Establishment-types were coming down hard on her for supporting Donald Trump; "They have been doing this. Specifically, Charles Cooke, who is a writer for National Review, he tweeted out that I should give my job to somebody else. Also, I saw a tweet, it was a meme by Kevin Williamson of National Review trying to make me seem stupid. There’s a girl talking about biorhythms, or something. So I’ve gotten my fair share as well from folks on the right and the left and in the media calling me stupid and Trump supporters as well… Exactly I should give up my job according to men in the Republican Party."

That's a left-wing feminist type of line -- the boys are out to get me because I'm "a girl"! -- and like most things left-wing feminists claim, it's bonkers.

Charles Cooke didn't try to get her fired or suggest she should lose her job in earnest. He replied to her claim that the entire structure of the conservative movement had accomplished absolutely nothing; to which Cooke replied, basically, well if that's true, and you're a part of that failed structure, you should probably do something else, huh?

He wasn't trying to get her fired or even suggest she should actually quit: He was trying to get her to examine her own over-statement, and think about the implications of so broad a claim.

I have no idea what the Wiliamson thing is about, but as it has the same pedigree as the Cooke lunacy, I tend to doubt it.

I notice this a lot in people, and frankly, in a lot of "conservative" women -- the grasping at these idiotic left-wing feminist tropes -- boys out to get me; they fear a strong woman, etc. -- when it's useful in an argument.

It's unprincipled, it's stupid, it's looney-tunes conspiracy thinking, and it's certainly not conservative.

This sort of conspiracy theory appeals to the weak and powerless, or at least those who don't have as much power as they think they ought to have. People who have a sense that their own world is beyond their control tend to find a conspiracy theory explaining the secret hands that work the gears and levers of the world empowering, in a sad way. People who feel more personal control over their own world know the world doesn't work like that.

"The Establishment" is a real thing, and it does have far too much power, and it must be chastened, but it is now an all-purpose left-wing identity-politics scare-figure and Conspiracy Theory Boogeyman to explain away every event that happens in the world.

Here's what I know about Charles Cooke (and all of National Review for that matter):

1. They don't have any particular power at Fox. They are occasional guests. They have the same power over Fox that, say, Scottie Nell Hughes has.

2. Charles Cooke does not give a shit about Andrea Tanataros' contract with Fox or any disputes that might be ongoing.

3. Stupid people leap to stupid reasons to explain things they don't have answers for, instead of just saying 'I don't know" like an intelligent person.

I don't know what's going on with Tantaros' contract or her book -- and neither do the leftwing/rightwing identity-politics race-powerists who think they pretty much know it all.

Note: I am indebted to Christina Hoff Sommers for pointing out that every identity politics cult is just a conspiracy theory with a racial (or gender) edge.

Posted by: Ace at 02:25 PM

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1 She's a Trunpster, who cares

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 02:26 PM (PFZvJ)

2 Do miss her in the leg chair though,

I'll get the others

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 02:27 PM (PFZvJ)

3 Summoning the corgis.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 02, 2016 02:28 PM (KUaJL)

4 I'll miss the legs.. that's about it..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 02, 2016 02:28 PM (so+oy)

5 I think she's tied up, someplace.

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at May 02, 2016 02:28 PM (mcm0N)

6 I haven't watched anything on Fox since I dropped my cable, but they have been moving left for a few years now. Tantaros was probably the last real conservative on Fox and if she has been shit-canned I would suspect Fox did it and the RNCe spokespeople of NRO had nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 02:30 PM (vvmPQ)

7 It's all Trump's fault.

Posted by: refrain for the next 4 years at May 02, 2016 02:30 PM (25+/B)

8 She has that bondage photo of herself on her --book.

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (mcm0N)

9
WHOSE IN ACE'S CLOSET??

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (iQIUe)

10 I never know who these tv pundits are.

Btw ace, can you mock Jake Tapper sometime for that incredibly fawning tweet he made about Malia?

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (nbrY/)

11 Kevin Williamson mocked her by responding to one of her tweets with the video of the woman on President Camacho's cabinet in "Idiocracy" talking about how Brawdo has electrolytes (which plants, naturally, crave).

Posted by: Dig Dug at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (cvJDL)

12 Yeah, don't know what to make of all this.

Megyn Kelly pulled out the tired old feminist response to Trump - playing the victim by repeatedly whining that Bill O'Reilly didn't stand up for her enough, but then also claiming she's a brave warrior reporter willing to mix it up with Trump.

I'm all for badass female journalists and commentators, just not into the whining part.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (NOIQH)

13 Beats me what happened or is happening.

And I am finding my Official Outrage Outlet Give-A-Crap Meter isn't registering at all.

You know, the biggest problem with social media is that we are all let into the pissing contests that everybody has and I already find those of the people I know boring. Those of people I don't know - *gack*

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (hLRSq)

14 Oh, what a tangled web I weave...

Posted by: Andrea Tarantula at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (H9MG5)

15 So what's the "official" Fox explanation for Tarantos' "extended" vacation?

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 02:32 PM (JBggj)

16 The excerpts from her book, posted to Twitter last week, were shocking for their bombast and chlid-like writing style.

I mean, how do you pull off both the braggadocio and the 4th grade sentence structure at the same time?!

It's a gift. truly.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 02:33 PM (SEXy3)

17 Somebody's sandbox always has piss in it.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 02, 2016 02:34 PM (YFFpo)

18 How is it a conspiracy theory when some of the more virulent NeverTrump nutters have been advocating blacklisting folks on the right who support Trump?

I mean, ace, you wrote a post arguing against those specific people for this specific thing in the past couple of weeks, so it's not exactly a baseless concern.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:34 PM (ZbV+0)

19 When they came for the Tantaros I said nothing, for I was not a buxom news hottie. When they came for the Schillings I said nothing, for I was not a right-handed fireballer, when they came for me...

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 02, 2016 02:34 PM (2cS/G)

20 Megyn Kelly pulled out the tired old feminist response to Trump - playing the victim by repeatedly whining that Bill O'Reilly didn't stand up for her enough, but then also claiming she's a brave warrior reporter willing to mix it up with Trump.

I'm all for badass female journalists and commentators, just not into the whining part.

***

Calling for your colleagues to have your back for doing your job is not asking them to defend you because you are a girl.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 02:35 PM (SEXy3)

21 Nice rack.

Posted by: davidt at May 02, 2016 02:35 PM (8aOqE)

22 Perhaps there are forces at work behind the scenes. Maybe we don't have the whole story. I DON'T KNOW.

Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2016 02:35 PM (Fmupd)

23 Didn't this chick hook up with a washed up rocker from a '90s hair band?

Posted by: Fritz at May 02, 2016 02:35 PM (UzPAd)

24 Does Kevin Williamson have an alibi for that white trash slaughter in Ohio?

Posted by: NCKate at May 02, 2016 02:36 PM (/ygaY)

25 Didn't this chick hook up with a washed up rocker from a '90s hair band?

****

She's dating Dave Navarro

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 02:36 PM (SEXy3)

26 Let's hear what a person who has just been shitcanned has to say about the situation within the first 24 hours!

Maybe we just shouldn't have the internet.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 02:36 PM (xuouz)

27 Don't watch TV. Don't even know who these people are. And I suspect, my world is infinitely more rich for their absence.

Posted by: zombie at May 02, 2016 02:36 PM (jBuUi)

28 NRO could go away tomorrow and the only effect would be a drop in deck chair futures.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 02, 2016 02:36 PM (4ErVI)

29 So what's the "official" Fox explanation for Tarantos' "extended" vacation?
--
"contract" issues.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:36 PM (ZbV+0)

30 I thought Tantaros, Guilfoyle, and the other one were hired less for their conservatism and more for a certain bocco di pompino vibe and the willingness to show all the leg in profile.

As to the Fox News culture, Geraldo has an interesting new observation. He's said a couple of times now that every media organization he's worked for has been run by liberal Jews and that Fox is run by Irish Catholics.

FWIW.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (1xUj/)

31 Here is what Salon had to say:

According to a Fox News statement, first issued upon request from TV Newser, "Issues have arisen regarding Andrea's contract, and Fox News Channel
has determined it best that she take some time off. She is still under
contract with the network."

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (vvmPQ)

32
Only one thing I really disagree with in the post is I don't think that the conservative movement has succeeded at all and don't think it is an overstatement to say so.

We are losing every battle and we see to find more dede scozzaflavas everyday.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (ODxAs)

33 Only through scientific study of hi-res pictures of Andrea in a bikini firing a SAW can we resolve this conundrum.

Posted by: My Life, My Fortune, My Sacred Biscuits at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (5Cjqa)

34 >Andrea Tarantos thread
>No bikini pics

C'MON MAN.

Posted by: Keyshawn Johnson at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (9TK8E)

35 Am I supposed to care about a minor TV personality on one of the many (i.e. all of them) networks I don't watch? I must have not received the memo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2016 02:38 PM (PkM9+)

36 22 Perhaps there are forces at work behind the scenes. Maybe we don't have the whole story. I DON'T KNOW.
Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2016 02:35 PM (Fmupd)

Word.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:38 PM (nbrY/)

37 Didn't she used to be with Gavin Newsome?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 02, 2016 02:38 PM (Jh+bU)

38 bocca.

damn.

fecking typing fingers.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 02, 2016 02:38 PM (1xUj/)

39 Only one thing I really disagree with in the post is I don't think that the conservative movement has succeeded at all and don't think it is an overstatement to say so.

We are losing every battle and we see to find more dede scozzaflavas everyday.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (ODxAs)

Exactly. Now give us more money and shut up.

Posted by: the GOPe at May 02, 2016 02:38 PM (KUaJL)

40 23 Didn't this chick hook up with a washed up rocker from a '90s hair band?

Posted by: Fritz at May 02, 2016 02:35 PM (UzPAd)

Dave Navarro

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (/CXhS)

41 >>Calling for your colleagues to have your back for doing your job is not asking them to defend you because you are a girl.

Eh, when was the last time a male journalist did that?

It was that she paired this with her claims that she was a fearless interrogator of Trump. It's the victim/badass female maneuver that grates - if she had just stuck to saying she was proud of her work grilling Trump it would be fine.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (NOIQH)

42
When did Ace and Cooke get so friendly? I knew something was up when he had him on the podcast and refused to ask him questions about all the buggering the brits are so fond of in school.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (iQIUe)

43 Please allow me to engage in some brevity in order to save precious navel gazing time:

I despise everyone in the broadcast media with the possible exception of the weather girl I caught the other night on Accuweather who was just too hot for words.

Ladder climbing phonies, the lot of them.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (659DL)

44 http://preview.tinyurl.com/hfyhgha

The 'blacklisting is an awful idea' thread for those who missed it. I suppose the usual warning for not posting on old threads lest autoban is needed

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (ZbV+0)

45 37 Didn't she used to be with Gavin Newsome?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 02, 2016 02:38 PM (Jh+bU)

No. That was kimberly.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (/CXhS)

46 We are losing every battle and we see to find more dede scozzaflavas everyday.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (ODxAs)

I'm sure I would agree with you if I knew what dede scozzaflavas are.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (nbrY/)

47 And awayyyyy we goooo!

Posted by: steevy at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (B48dK)

48 Off unfunny chick sock

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (/CXhS)

49 The insufferable twit Charles CW Cooke scheming?

That would assume that Cooke had the capacity to scheme, which would imply he was capable of original thought...

Which makes the entire premise ridiculous.

Kevin Williamson is a basket case in a class by itself.

What these people are going to be doing for a living this time next year is a mystery.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (Zs4uk)

50 "Nice rack."

Swimsuit photos show she is no stranger to Dunkin Donuts.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
But she might want to watch her blood sugar.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (ptqRm)

51 Well if Charles Cooke has that much pull at Fox, don't you think he'd be working to get himself a regular gig there rather than get Tarantos fired?

Plus the wording of the Fox spokesman suggests that there's might be a violation or conflict of interest with her Fox contract on her part.

Posted by: Maetenloch at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (wqVD1)

52 Woman who only has her job because of Girl Power is pissed that people are saying she only has her job because of Girl Power.

I guess I'm in the minority but Tarantos does nothing for me, either intellectually or in other areas.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (/tuJf)

53 Somewhat O/T: I would consider voting for Trump if he promised to make Scottie Nell Hughes his press secretary. I would watch every daily press briefing.

If the world is going to burn you might as well have a hearty laugh everyday.

By the way, she's always billed as "Trump supporter." Is she on his payroll, or does she beclown herself for free?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (nIGPZ)

54 I don't think this particular issue with Tantaros is tribalism . It's an actual real life disagreement with others in the same medium about what she does for a living . It's not off base to believe the people who are in disagreement with you may swing some influence against you. Until such time that an explanation is given for her extended vacation is given, I have no problem with her complaints. On the other hand , I believe owners / management should be able to fire people for any reason other than the standard gender, race, creed or color.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (6qmBU)

55 Didn't she used to be with Gavin Newsome?

***

No. Kim Guilfoyle was once married to him

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (SEXy3)

56 While not cited by FNC as a reason for her extended vacation, Tantaros recently claimed during a taping of Outnumbered that certain GOP Establishment-types were coming down hard on her for supporting Donald Trump;

There's nothing stupid or unbelievable about that. That anti-Trump people are out of their minds.

"They have been doing this. Specifically, Charles Cooke, who is a writer for National Review, he tweeted out that I should give my job to somebody else. Also, I saw a tweet, it was a meme by Kevin Williamson of National Review trying to make me seem stupid. There's a girl talking about biorhythms, or something. So I've gotten my fair share as well from folks on the right and the left and in the media calling me stupid and Trump supporters as well. Exactly I should give up my job according to men in the Republican Party."

That's not a "feminist" complaint. I don't doubt that people called her stupid ... because she really isn't that bright - though I think she's okay, anyway. Maybe the "It's because I'm a woman" part is somewhere else because it ain't in that little clip of hers.

I have little doubt that Fox would try to dump her for her pro-Trump position. They threw Beck off when he attacked their favorite positions - and Beck had one of the most watched Fox shows at the time. That's when I stopped watching Fox.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (zc3Db)

57 "Still under contract" = Fox newspeak for "keeping her quiet and away from the competition"?

Posted by: IP at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (aQQbl)

58 >>>Didn't she used to be with Gavin Newsome?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 02, 2016 02:38 PM (Jh+bU)<<<

Ew... that was Guilfoyle. I date the guy that used to be married to Carmen Electra. So much better.

Posted by: Andrea Tarantula at May 02, 2016 02:41 PM (H9MG5)

59
I notice this a lot in people, and frankly, in a lot of
"conservative" women -- the grasping at these idiotic left-wing feminist
tropes -- boys out to get me; they fear a strong woman, etc. -- when
it's useful in an argument.

It's unprincipled, it's stupid, it's looney-tunes conspiracy thinking, and it's certainly not conservative.

The pro-amnesty types use the same kind of tactics against the anti-amnesty types - calling them racist, nazi, etc.

The #nevertrump movement has moved into this territory as well - calling anyone who doesn't agree stupid, weak-minded, cultish, racist, etc. If I had a dime for every hysterical piece claiming Trump will be a "dictator" or "strong-man" and that he "won't listen to anyone", I'd be rich by now.

Almost everyone devolves down to a leftist "argument" when they are against something and not winning. It only gets worse if you have no actual factual/logical arguments to present, which is why this type of "argumentation" is relied on so heavily by the left. But, it is hardly exclusive to the left. I've even caught myself falling into it at times- it's a human nature thing - to assign to your opponent evil motives, etc.

Posted by: Golden at May 02, 2016 02:42 PM (3ZtZW)

60 Is Cooke a personal friend of ace' s.
I was not aware f that.
But then I don't listen to podcasts. I hate conversations I cannot butt into.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:42 PM (nbrY/)

61 I'm sure I would agree with you if I knew what dede scozzaflavas are.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:40 PM (nbrY/)

http://tinyurl.com/zb6vv2q

R turned D

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 02, 2016 02:43 PM (/CXhS)

62 What are the chances Trump hires her to be his spokesperson; she's got some nice curves for the upcoming war on women food fight.

Posted by: Jean at May 02, 2016 02:43 PM (cXiMR)

63 If Tarantos states she's getting pressure from "Establishment Types", I believe her. She's worked enough within that group, including a stint working for the House, to get that type of feedback.

Anybody think, by the way, those people are happy with Trump?

That part is at least plausible.

NRO, by the way, has been clownish in their anti-Trump efforts. The intellectual dishonesty has been stunning.

I don't care for the trope that it's "men" but in fairness, I am not certain she meant that as a feminist shield. It seems more an off the cuff statement.

Anyway, I'll wait to hear what the real reasons are...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2016 02:43 PM (O0lVq)

64 32
Only one thing I really disagree with in the post is I don't think that the conservative movement has succeeded at all and don't think it is an overstatement to say so.

We are losing every battle and we see to find more dede scozzaflavas everyday.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (ODxAs)

-------------------

Mike Castle agrees with this statement.

Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2016 02:43 PM (Fmupd)

65 Calling for your colleagues to have your back for doing your job is not asking them to defend you because you are a girl.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 02:35 PM (SEXy3)

well, picking a fight then deciding to cry woman when you get smacked is not very professional. oreilly did go out of his way to save her when she pissed off trump and he dropout of her dabate. she has lost her perspaective and understanding of who brung her to the dance.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 02, 2016 02:43 PM (vb33c)

66 "Still under contract" = Fox newspeak for "keeping her quiet and away from the competition"?

****

It reads as if someone might have gotten a bit too big for her britches and has been placed in a time-out.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 02:44 PM (SEXy3)

67 #28

NRO could go away tomorrow and the only effect would be a drop in deck chair futures.
================

Almost. The big problem is that all of these publications from center --> right are located in the northeast corridor. It's all policy, 24/7. Washington this, politicians that. Things are so bad that the best thing we can hope for this election cycle is a holding action. ACA-uninsured working people took a hit this year because of the penalty escalation. All that does is accelerate the number of people working for cash and reducing the number of people stuck with paying into the system.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 02:44 PM (JBggj)

68 Only one thing I really disagree with in the post is I don't think that
the conservative movement has succeeded at all and don't think it is an
overstatement to say so.
---
There are plenty of people willing to make a buck writing about conservative ideas. There are a whole lot more willing to vote for them.

There are basically no politicians willing to implement them. And, no electing one constitutional conservative to the white house that then has a built in excuse of 'congress won't cooperate' isn't a solution.

Hence a lot of us are trying something else.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:45 PM (ZbV+0)

69 Isn't Fox the Super Trump network now? Why would they fire her for supporting Trump?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 02, 2016 02:45 PM (nIGPZ)

70 13 Beats me what happened or is happening.

And I am finding my Official Outrage Outlet Give-A-Crap Meter isn't registering at all.

You know, the biggest problem with social media is that we are all let into the pissing contests that everybody has and I already find those of the people I know boring. Those of people I don't know - *gack*
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 02, 2016 02:31 PM (hLRSq)

Yeah, I'm basically feeling the same way. It's a very common human reaction to a situation of adversity to decide that the deck was stacked against you. What's easier to believe, that everyone was out to get you and that you weren't in the cool kid's club, or that you just didn't try/work hard enough?

While this is a pretty similar reaction to the leftist worldivew in general, I don't think we need to go any further than that. Group politics can get nasty enough on their own, without having to drag ideologies into it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 02, 2016 02:45 PM (KUaJL)

71 nobody knows the trouble I've seen....

Posted by: V for Vag at May 02, 2016 02:45 PM (AGJqR)

72 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 02, 2016 02:43 PM (/CXhS)

Thanks ! I was afraid of googling. Sounded like some kind of weird gelato flavor.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:45 PM (nbrY/)

73 It reads as if someone might have gotten a bit too big for her britches and has been placed in a time-out.
=====================

Meow.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 02:46 PM (JBggj)

74 As to the Fox News culture, Geraldo has an interesting new observation. He's said a couple of times now that every media organization he's worked for has been run by liberal Jews and that Fox is run by Irish Catholics.

FWIW.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (1xUj/)

31 Here is what Salon had to say:

well, I am neither but the liberal Jews ae preferable to the Irish Catholics.

Posted by: yankeefith at May 02, 2016 02:46 PM (vb33c)

75 Early last week on the Chris Stigall show he was talking to some national pundit but don't remember who, but it was before anyone new she was MIA. In the conversation it came up that Andrea was very chummy with Trump.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 02:47 PM (PFZvJ)

76 Delightful how in the middle of whining about supposed SJWisn tendencies among conservatives he dislikes Ace deigns to insinuate that attacks on Cooke and NR are some how akin to anti-semitism.

The word cabal exists because cabals exists.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at May 02, 2016 02:47 PM (b1sBE)

77 What's easier to believe, that everyone was out to get you and that you weren't in the cool kid's club, or that you just didn't try/work hard enough?

--

Easy to believe when the cool slackers gets promoted too.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:47 PM (nbrY/)

78 Thanks ! I was afraid of googling. Sounded like some kind of weird gelato flavor.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:45 PM (nbrY/)

*just checked UD and there are no entries

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 02, 2016 02:47 PM (/CXhS)

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (5SCZ4)

80 *pulls out autographed Andrea Tantaros photo*

At least I still this.

Thanks DG!!!

Posted by: EC at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (j8YpL)

81 I have no idea what the Wiliamson thing is about, but as it has the same pedigree as the Cooke lunacy, I tend to doubt it.

I think I've found that tweet.
https://twitter.com/KevinNR/status/694638739134377985

Meme based on clip from Idiocracy.

Andrea's recap:
"Also, I saw a tweet, it was a meme by Kevin Williamson of National Review trying to make me seem stupid. There's a girl talking about biorhythms, or something."

So she accurately got that he was mocking her, but didn't recognize what the meme was.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (uURQL)

82 well, I am neither but the liberal Jews ae preferable to the Irish Catholics.
Posted by: yankeefith at May 02, 2016 02:46 PM (vb33c)

I have neighbors of both variety. Overall the Irish Catholics are nicer, imo.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (nbrY/)

83 wasn't navarro on fox lately?

why is tantaros dating carmen electras sloppy seconds?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (vb33c)

84 I'd like to thank Roger Ailes for seeing in me, early on, the socio-political tour de force that I've become, and for creating a mega-successful platform at Fox News to showcase that...

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (mcm0N)

85 You can bitch about Fox News but that's ignoring history and how they totally changed the Left's stranglehold on the evening news. I will always give them credit for that.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 02:49 PM (6qmBU)

86 Meow.

***

Oh yes! Of course! An attractive woman can't be criticized, eh?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 02:49 PM (SEXy3)

87 I have neighbors of both variety. Overall the Irish Catholics are nicer, imo.
Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (nbrY/)

meh, either or but as a group no one looks to Irish Catholics for entertainment, more dour.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 02, 2016 02:50 PM (vb33c)

88 why is tantaros dating carmen electras sloppy seconds?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (vb33c)

Well, her taste in men is clearly faulty, because she isn't dating me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2016 02:50 PM (PkM9+)

89 I don't think this particular issue with Tantaros is tribalism
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Isn't it?

Look how people of given political preferences responded to the Fields fiasco.

Now look at how they respond to the Tantaros situation, whose career (in terms of her book sales) is being negatively impacted due to *something*.

One was worthy of endless white knighting. One has been unpersonned.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:50 PM (ZbV+0)

90 >>Isn't Fox the Super Trump network now? Why would they fire her for supporting Trump?

No idea which way they're currently leaning - have pretty much stopped watching the channel.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2016 02:52 PM (NOIQH)

91 I'm Stuck in crab pot, and the other crabs are pulling me down!

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 02:52 PM (mcm0N)

92 Regardless of the actual reason, the fact that a Trump supporting tv person was sorta canned by a media outlet reinforces the meme that the media hates all things Trump.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:53 PM (nbrY/)

93 Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:50 PM (ZbV+0)

The two situations couldn't be more different.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 02:53 PM (6qmBU)

94 Well, her taste in men is clearly faulty, because she isn't dating me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2016 02:50 PM (PkM9+)

well, tantaros is no michelle malkin, intellectually or aesthetically.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 02, 2016 02:53 PM (vb33c)

95 >>One was worthy of endless white knighting. One has been unpersonned.

Michelle Fields wasn't white knighted. What actually happened was people criticized the way Trump's campaign handled the situation and for want of a simple apology turned a nothing into an issue.

The only people who thought white knighting was going on were Trump supporters bound and determined to trash her to protect Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 02:53 PM (/tuJf)

96 So should we expect Hannity the next to go?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 02:54 PM (6qmBU)

97 Please everyone stop beating the Fields horse. It's beyond dead.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:54 PM (nbrY/)

98 Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:50 PM (ZbV+0)

The two situations couldn't be more different.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 02:53 PM (6qmBU)

I was going to post something to that effect.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 02, 2016 02:54 PM (nIGPZ)

99 Too Arms! Two Arms!

Posted by: Michelle Fileds at May 02, 2016 02:54 PM (PNcou)

100 Oh yes! Of course! An attractive woman can't be criticized, eh?
===========

Oh, NDH. I'm a fan of yours. I take it you've never read any of my comments concerning Kate Upton's impact on Justin Verlander's career ERA?

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 02:54 PM (JBggj)

101 why is tantaros dating carmen electras sloppy seconds?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (vb33c)

"Sloppy seconds" is a description that only applies to women. There's no such thing for a guy - not even in a funny way.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2016 02:55 PM (zc3Db)

102 "Michelle Fields wasn't white knighted. What actually happened was people criticized the way Trump's campaign handled the situation and for want of a simple apology turned a nothing into an issue."

Sorry I can't hear from up on top of that horse. Lift the mouth gaurd thing up and try again. The fact that you can't even recognize how incessant a white knight you were is the problem.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at May 02, 2016 02:55 PM (b1sBE)

103 have neighbors of both variety. Overall the Irish Catholics are nicer, imo.

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:48 PM (nbrY/)
Oh all right but no Methodist

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 02, 2016 02:55 PM (QPdNE)

104 @97 Agreed!

Posted by: Jim Abbot at May 02, 2016 02:55 PM (2cS/G)

105 Well, if she needs a job I am redoing my lawn. Will pay $15.00 living wage and it will amuse me to watch her wrestle with the 5 horsepower hand tiller.
Heck, I'll even throw in a big can of Rainier after work.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 02, 2016 02:55 PM (FtrY1)

106 One other thing to keep in mind. Recall when Laurie Dhue left Fox they said the same thing about her. It was a "contract disagreement". It turns out she was hitting the bottle every night. I guess that was a contract dispute. So those "spokesmen" are about as reliable as Obama's spokesmen.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (vvmPQ)

107 "What these people are going to be doing for a living this time next year is a mystery."

Is this just a joke or do you think Trump will somehow remove these people?

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (UBBWX)

108 Have to see this tweet
https://twitter.com/patsajak/status/726785606555193346

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (nbrY/)

109
Nat Review certainly isn't as conservative as it once was and neither is the Fox News editing and line-up. I guess somebody could debate that, but why.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (ODxAs)

110 Christian Hoff Sommers is a misogynist...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (WhYLb)

111
We have nothing to fear from Donald Trump when he is elected President of the United States.

Everyone else will go crazy, but we don't need to fear The Donald. Think Nixon haters on amphetamines.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (5SCZ4)

112 Social Justice Warrioring -- identity politics -- posits as a central tenet that the tribe is pure and, more importantly, the other tribes are wicked and full of deceit and evil.

SJWing may be considered a subset of identity politics, but there's more to it than that.

There are 3 observed behaviors true of SJWs:
1. SJWs always lie
2. SJWs alwayd double down
3. SJWs always project

They lie, they continue to lie when called out, and the lies they tell reflect what they internally think and believe, projected onto others.

So the Communist lies about the nature of economics and labor, is immune to correction, and posits a Capitalist Conspiracy to keep Labor workers down; when he himself is the sort to murder people on an industrial scale.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (uURQL)

113 90 >>Isn't Fox the Super Trump network now? Why would they fire her for supporting Trump?

No idea which way they're currently leaning - have pretty much stopped watching the channel.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2016 02:52 PM (NOIQH)

Me neither. I watch TV extremely rarely and just discovered a couple of weeks ago I don't have FNC. After several years of no cable, I now have some channels only to get a better internet deal.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (nIGPZ)

114 >>Sorry I can't hear from up on top of that horse. Lift the mouth gaurd thing up and try again. The fact that you can't even recognize how incessant a white knight you were is the problem.

Wrong. I criticized a politician and his staff for handling an issue poorly. Which they did. That's all.

Trump supporters can't bear and criticism of their candidate.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (/tuJf)

115 I don't watch Fox or any other news outlet either. But it seems to me people are sniping and snipping at each other like never before. Or is it the instant news coverage? Maybe both. Most of it sounds so damned trivial though.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (CFc5L)

116 The two situations couldn't be more different.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 02:53 PM (6qmBU)

I agree. The first was a non-event that was treated like The Most important Event Of The Year. The second has a dollar-consequence attached to it at the least, and is being dismissed.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (ZbV+0)

117 *pulls out autographed Andrea Tantaros photo*

At least I still this.

and this thermos ..

Posted by: Scientists at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (evdj2)

118 Outnumbered was very pro-Trump today, so this "she was kicked out for being pro-Trump" theory seems pretty limp to me.

I
read one tweet a while ago about "someone" at Outnumbered getting
Jedidiah Bila canned as a rotating host (it was originally
Smith/Faulkner near daily with Tantaros, Guilfoyle, Bila, Pavlich and
Powers as semi-regulars before Tantaros became the 3rd regular).

Then
last Tuesday when Andrea was out the first time, Jedidiah was there (I
think Tuesday; could've been Wednesday). If it was Andrea who got Bila
canned from that (and Smith/Faulkner were on this episode), then putting Jedidiah on Tuesday was a big, but
subtle, middle finger from Fox. I hadn't seen Bila on Outnumbered for a
long long time.

That's pure gossip of course from a source I
don't know if I trust or not. But I read that rumor about Bila a few
months ago and was wondering who it supposedly was.

Posted by: disappointed at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (FpIAE)

119 "Sorry I can't hear from up on top of that horse. Lift the mouth gaurd thing up and try again. The fact that you can't even recognize how incessant a white knight you were is the problem."

Trump was white knighting for Tyson lately.

or maybe stepping up for a convicted rapist should be called black knighting?

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (UBBWX)

120 Counterpoint:

The Jews ARE pulling shenanigans with Muslim countries to some extent, maybe not The Protocols of the Elders of Zion-level, but the arm of Mossad is long (hello stuxnet) because they remember 1967 and they're sick of having their children killed on school buses and having to shoot rockets out of the sky.

There is no major anti-drug initiative by US law enforcement (and in the age of mass surveillance it's laughable that there isn't) precisely because the US black community has made a deal with the New Society devil and large "markets" of

Feminism is predicated on an assumption of victimhood which makes feminazis reactive in public situations and men are patronizing as a result because there's no other way to handle someone who acts like that.

There's a seed of truth to every conspiracy theory, and its adoption by more than a fringe, single-digit percentage of a population makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

By moving against "establishment" cabals - and, going beyond what is required for purposes of demagoguery, naming them - the populist movement which has coalesced around Trump has cemented the opposition of groups like NRO and made themselves more hysterical than they need be.

And (AND!) though I'm not going to disagree with your premise that Charles CW Cooke was personally behind this firing of Tantaros, it also leads to real opposition from said groups. I'm not saying it causes it - chicken, egg, whatever. But these lines are drawn, even if Ms Tarantula is really just venting like a spurned employee.

Our culture encourages a victim mentality at all levels. Yes it has seeped into the right. That's part of what makes this election so urgent.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (xuouz)

121 Please everyone stop beating the Fields horse. It's beyond dead.
Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:54 PM (nbrY/)

I saw it twitch.

*brandishes club*

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (uURQL)

122 Build the Wall (of Text)!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 02:58 PM (xuouz)

123 Please everyone stop beating the Fields horse. It's beyond dead.
Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 02:54 PM (nbrY/)

That's up to the district court of Jupiter, FL to decide.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 02:58 PM (xuouz)

124 Name is vaguely familiar. She's some eye candy, er, commentator on Fox or something. Couldn't pick her out of a line-up (but that's true of 90% of pop "culture" figures and, now, "news" types, probably).

Ace's larger point isn't large enough. The pageantry of Teh Stupid in the country/culture this cycle has broken new ground.

Trump is a racist, a fascist, it's scary that he might have access to the nuke codes. Ignorant, pathetic silliness.

Trump might not get the nom because it will be "stolen" cuz the nomination process isn't a simple majority thing, this indirect democracy stuff isn't fair or American eleventy!!!! Politicking for support/delegates as has been done since forever is "unfair!". Ignorant, pathetic silliness.

And I've just covered a few of the low-points offered up by the *less* stupid, *less* un-American/alien, *less* contemptible section of the electorate and the punditariat. Outlook is grim.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2016 02:58 PM (QDnY+)

125 109

Nat Review certainly isn't as conservative as it once was and
neither is the Fox News editing and line-up. I guess somebody could
debate that, but why.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (ODxAs)

NRO have NEVER been conservative. They have always been a RNCe PR bandwagon. And the RNCe has NEVER been conservative.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 02:59 PM (vvmPQ)

126 Wrong. I criticized a politician and his staff for handling an issue poorly. Which they did. That's all.

What is the correct way to handle a malicious female journalist manufacturing a story against your campaign manager?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 02:59 PM (uURQL)

127 Ace, I'm going to try one more time. There really is such a thing as a conspiracy; any time two or more people perform a criminal act together - it is a conspiracy. Surely as a Lawyer you understand this. It is not a loony, unsophisticated, low level troglodyte analysis to say that 9/11 was the result of a conspiracy.

One of things that is learned in college is to look down one's nose at people who believe in conspiracies. This gives the person who has that view a sense of superiority to those who don't - allowing the college educated to see themselves as more sophisticated and superior to the simple rubes who believe in conspiracies.

The real problem is that because there really is such a thing as a conspiracy - the world becomes complicated. One has to decide - on a case by case basis - is it reasonable that there is a conspiracy at work, or is it one of Ayn Rand's "conspiracy of cockroaches" where people of like mind aren't conspiring but appear to be because of similar goals. Or, is it more likely that something which has occurred is the result of simple human blundering.

Sorry the world is complex, and those questions have to be asked and answered - otherwise people who deny the existence of all conspiracies become fools for those who exploit the blind spot which occurs without close case by case examination.

Posted by: Gerorge Soros at May 02, 2016 02:59 PM (aQqA3)

128 Have to see this tweet

https://twitter.com/patsajak/status/726785606555193346

LOL

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (ZbV+0)

129 I'm Stuck in crab pot, and the other crabs are pulling me down!

***

It's a metaphor for crabs in a pot.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (SEXy3)

130 All it amounts to is one less very nice rack on network television.

Posted by: ejo at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (il4FI)

131 119 "Sorry I can't hear from up on top of that horse. Lift the mouth gaurd thing up and try again. The fact that you can't even recognize how incessant a white knight you were is the problem."

Trump was white knighting for Tyson lately.

or maybe stepping up for a convicted rapist should be called black knighting?

********

Trump: Lend Me Your Ears--Mike Tyson is a sweetheart, and he is a WINNER! Believe me!

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (mcm0N)

132 Sigh..

The enemy is the left people

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (V/InG)

133 What is the correct way to handle a malicious female journalist manufacturing a story against your campaign manager?

Not lying, not defaming her, and offering a perfunctory apology even if you don't mean it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 02, 2016 03:01 PM (1xUj/)

134 fuck I never finished my drug thought. Point is, the "black vs police" reinforces itself. I was going to put that more eloquently but I had to bump some smack.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:01 PM (xuouz)

135 >>>I thought Tantaros, Guilfoyle, and the other one were hired less for their conservatism and more for a certain bocco di pompino vibe and the willingness to show all the leg in profile.

ah i learned some useful italian today

Posted by: ace at May 02, 2016 03:01 PM (dciA+)

136 Maybe Andrea got violently yanked to the ground and hasn't been able to get up since.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at May 02, 2016 03:01 PM (0sLvz)

137 Crap, sock off.

Posted by: An Observation at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (aQqA3)

138 Vic you're fantastic. Also, it's true.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (xuouz)

139 132 Sigh..

The enemy is the left people
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (V/InG)

That sounds just like something my real enemy would say! To lull me into a false sense of security!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (KUaJL)

140 Murdoch was anti-Trump a few months ago but not so much anymore. You can see that in the way that Megyn has come around. I expect that her sitdown with Trump in mid-May will be a little love in.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (r1fLd)

141 Should move that Cruz video confronting the Trumpsters to the top of the page instead of the sidebar.
I can't believe how cool Cruz stayed.

Posted by: Iblis at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (9221z)

142 I guess I have to withdraw my opinion that this is not a tribalism issue. The Trump supporters here have put their war paint on.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (6qmBU)

143 Probably related to some content in the book that wasn't run by Fox management or a disagreement over the promotion of the book and book signings.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (n6gHv)

144 132 Sigh..

The enemy is the left people
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (V/InG)

100%! Everything else is pure malarkey.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (CFc5L)

145 Is this just a joke or do you think Trump will somehow remove these people?

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 02:56 PM (UBBWX)

So you're predicting a big market, people climbing over each other with money in hand, anxiously waiting to read the next articles of people who couldn't have been more wrong?

I like my pundits a bit connected to what they are writing about. National Review will be the oddity publication with no base but other East Coast right wing writers.

How long will they go on when Ace's subscription lapses?

Of course, Cooke will always have a job being the guest that licks Bill Maher's balls as he pisses on the republican base. Maybe there can be a new show where Cooke could play Ed McMahon, laughing at everything the trained seals clap at.

One thing is sure, the political party they used to be a part of has moved on without them.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 03:03 PM (Zs4uk)

146 C'MON MAN.
Posted by: Keyshawn Johnson at May 02, 2016 02:37 PM (9TK8E)

No sweat, Keyshawn. It's just practice.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at May 02, 2016 03:03 PM (dQJCS)

147 Corbyn addressing a crowd waving communist flags to cheers of "Engels, Lenin, Stalin"

https://goo.gl/vxyE82

British Communists complete with Stalin banner at today's May Day rally in London...

https://goo.gl/lMUXf9

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 03:03 PM (iQIUe)

148 i'd probably care a whole lot more about this nontroversy if i knew who any of the people mentioned in it were...

by the by: the LA Slimes is worried that all the illegals protesting Trump with Mexican flags, etc, will actually aid his campaign...

latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-anti-trump- protests-mexican-flag-20160429-story.html

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2016 03:03 PM (WhYLb)

149 Murdoch was anti-Trump a few months ago but not so much anymore. You can see that in the way that Megyn has come around. I expect that her sitdown with Trump in mid-May will be a little love in.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (r1fLd)

Do you have any evidence of this? Or is this just what the movie in your head is telling you to expect?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:03 PM (xuouz)

150 Trump was white knighting for Tyson lately.

or maybe stepping up for a convicted rapist should be called black knighting?
---
*cough* racist *cough*

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:04 PM (ZbV+0)

151 What's that supe spicy spaghetti---that comes in "whore sauce"?

Sounds better in Itralien.

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:04 PM (mcm0N)

152 Puttanesca?

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:04 PM (mcm0N)

153 FYI, bocco di pompino is a NSFW search, as I just found out.

Posted by: taylork at May 02, 2016 03:06 PM (UCLTe)

154 What is the correct way to handle a malicious female journalist manufacturing a story against your campaign manager?
---------------
Not lying, not defaming her, and offering a perfunctory apology even if you don't mean it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 02, 2016 03:01 PM (1xUj/)

I know for a fact that publicly apologizing to a bad faith public accusation is the worst possible PR decision you can make.

Tim Hunt. Sexy Lady Shirt Scientist. Notice something? They lost their jobs. Despite a public apology.

When you do the 20/20 analysis, there were no lies about Fields from the Trump camp. Corey never touched her [in the way she described]. Dramatic events have followed her around in her journalistic career.

And she never deserved to be inside of Trump's security screen. The SS should have taken her down. But instead she gets pulled away, in the worst thing to happen to her since her dad died.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:06 PM (uURQL)

155 Tempest, let me introduce you to Teapot.

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:06 PM (zuTLp)

156 Corbyn addressing a crowd waving communist flags to cheers of "Engels, Lenin, Stalin"

https://goo.gl/vxyE82

British Communists complete with Stalin banner at today's May Day rally in London...

https://goo.gl/lMUXf9
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 03:03 PM

Just yesterday I was reading some political pundit giving an expert opinion on something and just as an aside he mentioned how we had won the cold war, and the war between communism and capitalism was won by Reagan. I kinda didn't bother with the rest of his opinion after that.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 03:06 PM (5SCZ4)

157 Probably related to some content in the book that wasn't run by Fox management or a disagreement over the promotion of the book and book signings.
Posted by: Reno_Dave at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (n6gHv)

This seems reasonable to me. It's probably not anything interesting.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at May 02, 2016 03:07 PM (nIGPZ)

158 I guess I have to withdraw my opinion that this is
not a tribalism issue. The Trump supporters here have put their war
paint on.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (6qmBU)
I can't hold a serious political discussion with my fairly conservative, Trump-supporting, non-athletic, graduate-degree holding younger brother anymore, because the moment I mention that Cruz is actually a conservative, he starts referring to him as "Lyin' Ted" and talking about how Cruz has a "punch-able" face.
It's really weird.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at May 02, 2016 03:07 PM (n6gHv)

159 I'm looking forward to seeing her as Trump's Whitehouse spokeswoman.

It will be awesome!

Posted by: Ron Winkleheimer at May 02, 2016 03:07 PM (iyzFk)

160 "bocco di pompino" - hmm, don't know that one. Diminutive (possibly) on the second noun. Other than that, got nuthin'. Somebody gonna voxsplain that to me?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2016 03:07 PM (QDnY+)

161 just as an aside he mentioned how we had won the cold war, and the war between communism and capitalism was won by Reagan. I kinda didn't bother with the rest of his opinion after that.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 03:06 PM (5SCZ4)

We did, and he did. We've decisively lost the peace. Maybe you can explain what you're trying to say?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:08 PM (xuouz)

162 Women gonna woman, aiko aiko all day.

Posted by: General Zod at May 02, 2016 03:08 PM (Bdeb0)

163 I don't like Trump, and I think this claim by Andrea is silly. But I still like her a million times more than that asshat Cooke.

Posted by: gm at May 02, 2016 03:08 PM (Rbl/U)

164 Oh gross--puttanesca is supposedly described as --"salty".

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:08 PM (mcm0N)

165 The Trump supporters here have put their war
paint on.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (6qmBU)

No paint here, Joe. I just don't like being insulted any more than anyone else.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:09 PM (xuouz)

166 I don't like Trump, and I think this claim by Andrea is silly. But I still like her a million times more than that asshat Cooke.
Posted by: gm at May 02, 2016 03:08 PM (Rbl/U)

For two good reasons, I imagine.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:09 PM (uURQL)

167 When you do the 20/20 analysis, there were no lies about Fields from the Trump camp.

>>Corey Lewandowski
MichelleFields you are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 03:09 PM (/tuJf)

168 153 FYI, bocco di pompino is a NSFW search, as I just found out.
Posted by: taylork at May 02, 2016 03:06 PM (UCLTe)

Holy crap!

Posted by: EC at May 02, 2016 03:09 PM (j8YpL)

169 I mean, I feel like an idiot getting sucked into all the histrionic bullshit regarding Cruz and Trump. Damned if I will willingly get caught up in every other effing slap fight the Media gins up cause Attention Whores...

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:09 PM (zuTLp)

170 "So you're predicting a big market, people climbing over each other with money in hand, anxiously waiting to read the next articles of people who couldn't have been more wrong?"

No, I'm predicting the opposite: they've managed to survive while being pretty useless already, so why wouldn't they keep on?

I assume they have some foundation bankrolling them. This is the new model for most media, because you are right that there is not much market demand for any of this stuff.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (UBBWX)

171 "Trump was white knighting for Tyson lately."

Nope. He was showing that he respected black icons. Pandering for the black vote?

If they serve their time can you forget the crime?
Tyson can vote for Trump if he moves to Virginia.

Posted by: huh? at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (Bbcs8)

172 "Do you have any evidence of this? Or is this just what the movie in your head is telling you to expect?"

Oooh, snap.

I wrote this back in January:

"Rupert Murdoch doesn't want Trump to win. He's been sitting in on Roger Ailes' super-secret high level news planning meetings lately. Megyn gave prominent coverage to National Review's hit piece on Trump last week. Tomorrow, Fox was going to have an Islamic militant phone in with questions, the same one who's compared Trump to Hitler.

"So Murdoch and Fox were intent on sandbagging Trump tomorrow [with Megyn]. His best move was not to show up."

You could also see it in WSJ stories back in January, including stories based on misleading commissioned polls.

By March Murdoch had given up on beating on Trump, and said that the GOP should unify if he kept winning.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (r1fLd)

173 seems less tha likely it was her opposition to nr or comments about nr writers. when stacey dash and ralph peters called obama by name they were both given a public reprimand.

Posted by: yankeefith at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (vb33c)

174 Both trump and Cruz have acted like children this primary season and they both should be ashamed of themselves. And all it has done is help the fat lying bitch

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (V/InG)

175 Damned if I will willingly get caught up in every other effing slap fight the Media gins up cause Attention Whores...

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:09 PM (zuTLp)
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I'm with you, especially the gins part.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (dFi94)

176 Literal translation= blowjob mouth. So when you google the term, you get a bunch of italian porn.

At least I wasn't doing an image search

Posted by: taylork at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (UCLTe)

177 >>The Trump supporters here have put their war
paint on.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:02 PM (6qmBU)

It's not "war paint," cousin, it's Cheetos-dust. And yes, speaking for myself, I've donned it.

Posted by: General Zod at May 02, 2016 03:12 PM (Bdeb0)

178 Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 02:57 PM (/tuJf)

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So you're agreeing that I was violently beaten. Or are you just twisting my arm?

Posted by: Michelle Fields at May 02, 2016 03:12 PM (Fmupd)

179 JackStraw, they have their reality and it won't be disturbed...yet.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:12 PM (UBBWX)

180 Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (r1fLd)

Not an S. Adams reader? I was making a joke of sorts.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:12 PM (xuouz)

181 "...that asshat Cooke."

Posted by: gm at May 02, 2016 03:08 PM (Rbl/U)

That insufferable asshat Cooke.

It would be assumed that an asshat is a twit, right?

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 03:12 PM (Zs4uk)

182 At least I wasn't doing an image search
Posted by: taylork at May 02, 2016 03:11 PM (UCLTe)

Yeah me neither.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:13 PM (xuouz)

183 >>Literal translation= blowjob mouth.

A condition physicians informally and sneeringly refer to as "slack-jaw."

Posted by: General Zod at May 02, 2016 03:13 PM (Bdeb0)

184 Are you sure it wasn't Jerry Hall --helping Rupert?

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:13 PM (mcm0N)

185 You'd think She'd be Fox's little darling seeing as She is in the tank for Trump and Fox has some serious Trump love going on...

Posted by: donna at May 02, 2016 03:13 PM (O2RFr)

186 I think it's "bocca" di pompino.
And now I'm the Spelling Fascist in multiple languages.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 02, 2016 03:13 PM (xq1UY)

187 Oh, NDH. I'm a fan of yours. I take it you've never read any of my comments concerning Kate Upton's impact on Justin Verlander's career ERA?

***

1. *bluch*

2. I regret to say I have not.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 03:14 PM (SEXy3)

188 "MichelleFields you are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you"

He didn't know the name of the person he pulled away from hanging on Trump's coattails.

I don't think that realization is pleasant to Fields.

Posted by: huh? at May 02, 2016 03:14 PM (Bbcs8)

189 Thought it was interesting that news of her disappearance from Fox came right after her 'Children of the Corn' comment about Carly's bizarre song at a Cruz event. Guess she hit too close to home and some Never Trumpers wanted her gone.

I like Andrea. I hope she finds a new home soon...maybe as a spokesperson/media expert for the Trump campaign? She has a large male following.

Posted by: K-E at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (Fa5m9)

190 It would be assumed that an asshat is a twit, right?

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 03:12 PM (Zs4uk)
======================================

I got called a twit the other day, in meatspace. Not internet anonymous stuff. I haven't been called an asshat yet though. It's on my bucket list.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (dFi94)

191 Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:00 PM (mcm0N)

Tie me kangaroo down sport,
Tie me kangaroo down....

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (hLRSq)

192 One was worthy of endless white knighting. One has been unpersonned.

Michelle Fields wasn't white knighted. What actually happened was people criticized the way Trump's campaign handled the situation and for want of a simple apology turned a nothing into an issue.

The only people who thought white knighting was going on were Trump supporters bound and determined to trash her to protect Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw

I'm not a trump supporter, and I think that it was utter bullshit.

She had been warned off, she made contact first, and her dumb ass would have been shot if she had tried it with JEF.

Other than that, you got a lock on the situation.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (326rv)

193 Trump supporters, let's stop talking about Michelle Fields. She's boring.

Let's talk about Mike Tyson.

Trump says he's innocent. The girl wanted it.

A jury disagreed.

Do you think the jury is just white knightin' SJW who hate Trump?

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (UBBWX)

194 "Not an S. Adams reader? I was making a joke of sorts.

Came off as a stupid insult.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (r1fLd)

195 "Fox has some serious Trump love"

Fox hates his guts but loves his ratings.

Posted by: huh? at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (Bbcs8)

196 I can't explain to any of my sexual frustrated pocket protector wearing Ted Cruz supporting engineers at my work that Ted wants to see them out of their jobs via massive increases in H1B visas without them huffing through inhaler hits about "constitutional conservative, and short fingered vulgarian."

A lot of them look like Kevin Williamson which explains the sexual frustration.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (b1sBE)

197 A lot of people who claim membership on the political right have grown quite comfortable lodging SJW style accusations against other conservatives. It used to be we'd do that shit in jest to point out leftist hypocrisy, but a large number have found the power of the slur to be too intoxicating to refrain from wielding seriously. It's mostly the anti-woman charge, but soon it will be the various and sundry other "phobias". I was really hoping to out-live the moment the United States of America became a nation of narcissistic excuse-making buck-passers, but it didn't happen. I wish I had been born 30 years earlier.

Posted by: holygoat at May 02, 2016 03:16 PM (DbBV5)

198 "Trump says he's innocent. The girl wanted it. "

Link please.

Posted by: huh? at May 02, 2016 03:17 PM (Bbcs8)

199 ust as an aside he mentioned how we had won the cold war, and the war between communism and capitalism was won by Reagan. I kinda didn't bother with the rest of his opinion after that.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 03:06 PM (5SCZ4)

We did, and he did. We've decisively lost the peace. Maybe you can explain what you're trying to say?
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:08 PM
---------------

Bernie Sanders
Obama - re elected
Berkley
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
Cuba and Obama's foreign policy
Venezuela
Obamacare and the welfare state
BlackLivesMatter
Environmentalists
Bill Ayers
Anita Dunn
Global Warming
Van Jones

There is more evidence for leftists activism than there is for a new strange sub atomic particle, yet we believe Science! and ignore the obvious that is right in front of our eyes.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 03:17 PM (5SCZ4)

200 We did, and he did. We've decisively lost the peace. Maybe you can explain what you're trying to say?
====================

No, we haven't. Nothing has been decided. Nothing will be decided after November, 2016, either.

The Left is on the defensive. They always squeal louder when challenged. The Republican Party, for all of its faults, can still muster an acceptable slate of presidential candidates; men and women, each of whom is far more qualified and competent to be POTUS than the current president and the two goofballs running for the Dem nomination.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 03:17 PM (JBggj)

201 It's a mistake to debate Trump on peripheral issues.

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:17 PM (mcm0N)

202 Will Trump commute Tyson's rape sentence?

Sure, Tyson has already served his time, but Trump is very loyal.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:17 PM (UBBWX)

203 When I see NRO, for some reason I think of Kevin Spacey's "Williamson" character in Glengarry Glenross

Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2016 03:17 PM (i6i8K)

204 >>She had been warned off, she made contact first, and her dumb ass would have been shot if she had tried it with JEF.

She wasn't warned off by anyone. The video shows her might have brushed against Trumps arm and who gives a shit about Obama in this context?

But please, continue believing this was all Fields evil doing and Trump is doing awesome with women. It's not like this is politics or anything where images and impressions matter.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 03:18 PM (/tuJf)

205 I'm just going to cook up some popcorn.

Tip for Ms Tantaros - if you don't want to look stupid, then don't do stupid things. Misquoting stuff you just watched counts as a stupid thing.

It's a minor stupid thing, but that you allowed yourself to get clowned by that buffoon Williamson (of all people) is kind of a force-multiplier of dumb.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 02, 2016 03:18 PM (vHM3V)

206 Remember when trolls would --change a subject?

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:18 PM (mcm0N)

207 Posted by: Sam Haysom at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (b1sBE)

Is that all you got? I'm sure you think you pull a lot of tail just like your hero. Fucking pitiful.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:18 PM (6qmBU)

208 It seems nobody is a "true conservative!111!!!" To interpret it as meaning that these women were then hired because idiots think they will give them blowjobs is pretty vile regardless if you phrase it in Italian or not.

Wasnt too long ago you morons were praising these women for their beauty, brains, and political acumen. Now they are just mouths to stick you dicks in. smh

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 03:18 PM (iQIUe)

209 Trump: Lend Me Your Ears--Mike Tyson is a sweetheart
________________________________

Clever, very clever.....

Posted by: IP at May 02, 2016 03:19 PM (aQQbl)

210 When you do the 20/20 analysis, there were no lies about Fields from the Trump camp.

>>Corey Lewandowski
MichelleFields you are totally delusional. I never touched you. As a matter of fact, I have never even met you
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 03:09 PM (/tuJf)

3 claims of Fields -
1. You are delusional (subjective opinion)
2. I never touched you (in reaction to article claim that he tried to throw her to the ground; in context, [in that way] can be inferred)
3. I have never met you (can be understood in the sense of not knowing her, not having her acquantance; doesn't know who this girl making a fuss is)

You can call all 3 lies, in that Fields is not clinically insane, Corey did touch her, and that the touching represents a meeting. Or you can call all 3 not-lies, because there's still alternate meanings that are not false.

As we perform this exercise, let me note that this is freaking twitter, where you throw out short thoughts limited to 140 characters.

Now contrast that single tweet with Field's published article "In her own words ...". How many lies can you spot in it? There's at least 9.

What is the standard of research and provability for a published article compared to a tweet?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:19 PM (uURQL)

211 Trump supporters unaware of that he claimed Tyson was railroaded?

http://tinyurl.com/gvqoegu

LOL. Man, when Hillary runs these ads, your mind will be blown!

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:20 PM (UBBWX)

212 Time is a flat circle. With one arm.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:20 PM (xuouz)

213 #187

1. *bluch*

============

God, I hope that's a typo.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 03:20 PM (JBggj)

214 Ugh --the Fields stuff is not where you should be hitting Trump.

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:20 PM (mcm0N)

215 Michelle Fields is to battery what Anita Hill was to sexual harrassment.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:21 PM (r1fLd)

216 "I wish I had been born 30 years earlier."

There was no golden age. It's bull shit all the way down. Better drugs now. No one has to put octagon soap in a sock to sedate (knock out) mental cases. Kennedy probably couldn't lobotomize his daughter now a days.

Posted by: huh? at May 02, 2016 03:21 PM (Bbcs8)

217 She wasn't warned off by anyone.
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The cops who investigated the matter found otherwise. I don't think exonerate is the right term when the case doesn't go to court, but they said about everything possible to support the legitimacy of Lewandowsky's action, such as it was, versus the lunacy of Fields' complaint.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:21 PM (ZbV+0)

218 196 I can't explain to any of my sexual frustrated pocket protector wearing Ted Cruz supporting engineers at my work that Ted wants to see them out of their jobs via massive increases in H1B visas without them huffing through inhaler hits about "constitutional conservative, and short fingered vulgarian."

A lot of them look like Kevin Williamson which explains the sexual frustration.
Posted by: Sam Haysom at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (b1sBE)

Not bad. Just need to work the word "cuck" in a few times and you'll be doing some real trolling.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 02, 2016 03:21 PM (KUaJL)

219 Trump says he's innocent. The girl wanted it.

A jury disagreed.

Do you think the jury is just white knightin' SJW who hate Trump?

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (UBBWX)

All politics aside, don't you admire a person who stands by his friends even when it's much more expedient to dump them under the bus?

That's balls. That's loyalty. That's integrity.

Sure, a jury in this particular age of victims found that a naked girl in a celebrity's hotel room a 2 am had no intention of having sex. Everyone can sympathize with her.

But Trump's inclination was to tell people what he thought and witnessed over the years he knew Tyson - that he was a nice guy.

Apparently Tyson never tried to rape Trump.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 03:21 PM (Zs4uk)

220 Trump is the ultimate white knight, but he'll only white knight for celebrities.

stands up for Tyson
stand up for Carson (fired his staff for Carson's mistake.)

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:22 PM (UBBWX)

221 O/T: College student refused to tip waitress because she was white.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/college-student-refuses-to-tip-waitress-because-shes-white/

Posted by: Serenity Now! at May 02, 2016 03:22 PM (BDZWU)

222 NeverTrump truecons = the fox who lost his brush.

Sniff sniff.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:22 PM (xuouz)

223 Okay. I'm out.

Posted by: Soona at May 02, 2016 03:23 PM (Fmupd)

224 "LOL. Man, when Hillary runs these ads, your mind will be blown!'

She runs those adds she loses the black vote.

Ya think she can be elected without the black vote?

Posted by: huh? at May 02, 2016 03:23 PM (Bbcs8)

225 Maybe she's moving to Trump's campagne, future press agent maybe? Helping that woman deficient.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 03:23 PM (PFZvJ)

226 "All politics aside, don't you admire a person who stands by his friends even when it's much more expedient to dump them under the bus?"

He's a rapist, but since he didn't rape me, personally, we can be friends!

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:24 PM (UBBWX)

227 I got called a twit the other day, in meatspace. Not internet anonymous stuff. I haven't been called an asshat yet though. It's on my bucket list.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2016 03:15 PM (dFi94)

Ya know, it IS pretty nice the first time, but I got used to it pretty quickly.

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:24 PM (zuTLp)

228 Rape cases defy many of the basic principles of criminal law, including on the key element of intent. For many crimes, the judge or jury are asked to look inside the head of the perpetrator. If he intended to kill, it's murder. If not, the same act may only be manslaughter.

With rape, judge or jury are asked to look inside the head of the victim: did she consent?

Mike Tyson never heard the Pageant Winner say no, because she didn't say no, and to this day Tyson probably believes he was innocent. He got convicted, at least in part, for being a Scary Black Man, which he most certainly was back then.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:24 PM (r1fLd)

229 I still don't understand the motivation or point of these anti-trump and/or anti-cruz threads?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 03:24 PM (V/InG)

230

ONE TIME AT ELECTROSHOCK CAMP ANDREA TARANTOS POOPED IN MY MOUTH! IDI AMIN PAYED HER TO!

AND ALSO TO WHISTLE THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER WITH A MOUTHFUL OF MAYONNAISE.

BUT MOSTLY TO POOP IN MY MOUTH.

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MICHELLE FIELDS at May 02, 2016 03:25 PM (qul7b)

231 "Apparently Tyson never tried to rape Trump. "

or punch him in the face.

Posted by: huh? at May 02, 2016 03:25 PM (Bbcs8)

232 It's Auntie Hillary now,

Didn't you see the tweet?

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 03:25 PM (PFZvJ)

233 Oh hell. I couldn't figure out why the headline looked odd. I just noticed that her name is spelled incorrectly.

It's "Tantaros"

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 03:25 PM (SEXy3)

234 Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 03:21 PM (Zs4uk

Ask Teddy Atlas if Tyson is a nice guy with the ladies.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:25 PM (6qmBU)

235 Mike Tyson never heard the Pageant Winner say no, because she didn't say no, and to this day Tyson probably believes he was innocent. He got convicted, at least in part, for being a Scary Black Man, which he most certainly was back then.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:24 PM (r1fLd)

Regret about sex retroacitvely transforming it into rape is a thing in college now.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:26 PM (uURQL)

236 OK I just laughed out loud at the gender neutral "Hamilton" cat in the sidebar.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2016 03:26 PM (O0lVq)

237 just because you are paranoid doesnt mean they arent out to get you

and while I have ZERO knowledge about the pull of NR at Fox, and dont know or believe that Cooke and Williamson got her fired

based on their writings I have very little doubt they wanted her fired

Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:26 PM (zOTsN)

238 229 I still don't understand the motivation or point of these anti-trump and/or anti-cruz threads?
--

Cardio
Gets the heart rate up

Posted by: Votermom's phone at May 02, 2016 03:26 PM (KihF+)

239 Bah, I meant to quote the earlier part of the comment, and somehow only left the Tyson part. My bad, that doesn't make sense.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:26 PM (uURQL)

240 She had been warned off, she made contact first, and her dumb ass would have been shot if she had tried it with JEF.

She wasn't warned off by anyone. The video shows her might have brushed against Trumps arm and who gives a shit about Obama in this context?

But please, continue believing this was all Fields evil doing and Trump is doing awesome with women. It's not like this is politics or anything where images and impressions matter.
Posted by: JackStraw

I give a shit. And it's telling that you won't. Both were under Secret Service protection.

If she had tried getting that close to obama and "brushed against him" the secret service would have swarmed her. Or shot her.

But it's different because you hate trump. Got it.

He's not very bright, he's erratic, and is even less of a republican than the current republican leadership. But this is your outrage. A member of the MFM who made up shit about Allen West, the NYPD and whatever else had a bad encounter with a political candidate on the move.

She should be glad she wasn't near Biden. They would have run her ass over and no one would care.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 02, 2016 03:26 PM (326rv)

241 I still don't understand the motivation or point of these anti-trump and/or anti-cruz threads?

Emotional venting. People want to believe their opinions matter.

I'm past that now, well into acceptance. Just waiting for events. Could be interesting.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 03:27 PM (5SCZ4)

242 "I still don't understand the motivation or point of these anti-trump and/or anti-cruz threads?"

Trump will be the nominee, it's a virtual lock, but there are many who don't want to accept this, hence the Beat Goes On.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 02, 2016 03:27 PM (r1fLd)

243 I still don't understand the motivation or point of these anti-trump and/or anti-cruz threads?
--

Cardio
Gets the heart rate up
Posted by: Votermom's phone at May 02, 2016 03:26 PM (KihF+)

Controversy sells!

Is ace's business model adviews, wealthy backer looking for a certain level of comment activity, or .... ?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:27 PM (uURQL)

244 I'm meh about the whole election deal now, cause it's the SOS... two unlikeable people vying for the right to take on an unlikeable opponent. Come November, I pick the lesser of two weevils, and get disappointed. Politics.

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:27 PM (zuTLp)

245 Maybe she's moving to Trump's campagne, future press agent maybe? Helping that woman deficient.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 03:23 PM (PFZvJ)

That's Alex the Chick's job. She gets a golden escalator to the top of the lectern, a tiara, and a scepter with a laser targeting designator.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 02, 2016 03:28 PM (hLRSq)

246 "Ya think she can be elected without the black vote? "

You seem very confident that Hillary can lose this or that vote, but Trump supporters are always confident that Trump will not lose this or that vote.

You ever wonder how many people Trump has lost through his statements?

No, don't worry about that now.

p.s. maybe he can still win. he does seem teflon. Who knows. But those people whining about white knights need to know Trump is the biggest whiner and the biggest white knight.

Did you know Trump was big time about punishing 4 black teenagers accused of rape in NYC? Turns out they were innocent. Police department had to make a pay out. Trump was against that.

Trump against rapists in one case, for a rapist in another. Difference? Celebrity.

BTW, these people are not "friends" they just meet at events. Its business.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:28 PM (UBBWX)

247
209
Trump: Lend Me Your Ears--Mike Tyson is a sweetheart
________________________________

Clever, very clever.....

Posted by: IP at May 02, 2016 03:19 PM (aQQbl)

very

damning with faint praise ?

Posted by: ed gibbon at May 02, 2016 03:28 PM (vRNwc)

248 That's Alex the Chick's job. She gets a golden escalator to the top of the lectern, a tiara, and a scepter with a laser targeting designator.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 02, 2016 03:28 PM (hLRSq)

There will be fabulous raptor uniforms.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:28 PM (uURQL)

249 Harun, do you get paid, or do you this for free?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:29 PM (uURQL)

250

I seem to remember Williamson et al saying on twitter they were going to keep a list of those who supported Trump for pay back

not that they have the pull, but the certainly have the desire

Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:29 PM (zOTsN)

251 Andrea Tantaros name starts with a "T".

By alphabetic intersectional theory, she is a victim of her name.

Posted by: I'm not Mr Science or even an actor playing Mr Science at May 02, 2016 03:29 PM (e8kgV)

252 Trump supporters unaware of that he claimed Tyson was railroaded?
http://tinyurl.com/gvqoegu
LOL. Man, when Hillary runs these ads, your mind will be blown!
Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:20 PM (UBBWX)

Mike Tyson is a crazy person with serious mental issues. For all that, this is Trump coming to the aide of a recently rehabilitated (Hangover 2) public figure who is

-Black
-himself an enigma
-an athletic all-timer
-convicted of rape, for which he served 3 years of a 6 year sentence

This is the intersection of race, crime and rape, and Trump will dominate the news cycle and win with it. Why? Because Tyson is a sympathetic figure to the US public.

If you still, after everything that has transpired, think Donald Trump just says whatever, off the cuff, without thinking, you're going to have a very unpleasant 2016.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:29 PM (xuouz)

253 What the chance Fox can find another mildly educated, attractive woman who is somewhat articulate, has some political experience and sports a nice set of legs? It might just be me, but I am pretty sure they have a closet full of them.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 02, 2016 03:30 PM (O0lVq)

254 "Cardio
Gets the heart rate up"

Wakes me up better than coffee!

and I can shirk my work.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:30 PM (UBBWX)

255 Wait a minute.

Andrea Tarantos disappears at the same time that scientists discover a new type of subatomic particle?

Oh my god.

The National review has turned Andrea INTO A SUBATOMIC PARTICLE!

YOU MANIACS! AH, DAMN YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 02, 2016 03:30 PM (4AVeu)

256 Maybe she can get a job on The View.

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 02, 2016 03:30 PM (43OZ6)

257 every identity politics cult is just a conspiracy theory with a racial (or gender) edge.
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Yes, but it's different--cause VICTIMS!

Posted by: Axeman at May 02, 2016 03:30 PM (2mC6G)

258 > Is ace's business model adviews, wealthy backer looking for a certain level of comment activity, or .... ?

Boudreaux Buttpaste revenues.

preview.tinyurl.com/otgn2t3

Posted by: butthurt advertising bump at May 02, 2016 03:30 PM (25+/B)

259 Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:29 PM (zOTsN)

See link at comment 44

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (ZbV+0)

260 LOL. Man, when Hillary runs these ads, your mind will be blown!

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:20 PM (UBBWX)

If you think the Clinton Dirt Machine won't be able to find anything on Ted Cruz, the NY Slimes gave a hint with a piece on Rafael Cruz Sr's involvement with Mannotech.

The MSM had a field day with a backwater congressmen like Todd Aiken demanding that Romney disavow a guy he'd maybe met once.

Think when Pastor Cruz's over the top dominionism and other snake handler type stuff comes out they won't badger his son with everything the guy has said for the last 50 years? Todd Aiken just happened to belong to the same party as Romney, Cruz's dad is actively campaigning with and for him.

Then you have Heidi Cruz's employment with Goldman Sachs which will be a constant hammer even though Hillary is owned down to her support hose by Goldman Sachs.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (i6i8K)

261 I don't watch Fox nor am I this young woman's mother, which I think lets me off the hook for worrying about her. If she has a good work record and an adequate resume, I'm going to assume she will find another position, or retain her present one should the situation warrant it.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (dFi94)

262 Gotta be some conspiracy at work here, nothing else explains why Fox would can the foxiest of the Fox foxes.

Posted by: mugiwara at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (D5hxK)

263 And yet every Trump supporter thinks the Fields issue became news in a vacuum. They spin or ignore or dismiss all the issues of Trump's innuendo for violence that preceded the incident.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (6qmBU)

264 Harun, do you get paid, or do you this for free?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:29 PM (uURQL)

Reactionary, as someone who had this bullshit leveled at me somewhat persistently a few months back, don't go there. It's bs. It's Harun, he's been around. Even if he is a shill, you can't prove it.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (xuouz)

265 They fired Tarantos for being pro-Trump--but not Dobbs, Bolling, Geraldo, Jesse Waters and Kilmeade? Please.

O'reilly is soft cos he's so proud of knowing Trump, Megyn is Stockholmed and even MacCallum and Hemmer spout Trump talking points as facts. Only the brighter lights there are anti-Trump.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 02, 2016 03:32 PM (Ndje9)

266 And yet every Trump supporter thinks the Fields issue became news in a vacuum. They spin or ignore or dismiss all the issues of Trump's innuendo for violence that preceded the incident.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (6qmBU)

Yeah no. But good job parroting a leftist narrative: it's very Republican of you.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:32 PM (xuouz)

267 Reactionary, as someone who had this bullshit leveled at me somewhat persistently a few months back, don't go there. It's bs. It's Harun, he's been around. Even if he is a shill, you can't prove it.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (xuouz)

I just saw the shirk work comments.

So for free then. Like us.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:32 PM (uURQL)

268 Hmmmm.

I'm torn on this because, bluntly, I am rooting for injuries between them all.

I lack invective for my opinion of Kevin Williamson, Charles Cooke needs to take a looooong hard look in the mirror to see where his Trump hate is taking him and Tarantula girl has a history of playing on oh they're picking on me because giiiirrrrrllll.

Hmmmm. So. Torn.

Posted by: alexthechick - Banderette at May 02, 2016 03:32 PM (mf5HN)

269 253 What the chance Fox can find another mildly educated, attractive woman who is somewhat articulate, has some political experience and sports a nice set of legs? It might just be me, but I am pretty sure they have a closet full of them.
Posted Marcus T

They're manufactured under patent by Acme Androids, Inc.
Warehouses full of them. Different chips for different news shows. Interchangeable.

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:33 PM (zuTLp)

270 Think when Pastor Cruz's over the top dominionism and other snake
handler type stuff comes out they won't badger his son with everything
the guy has said for the last 50 years?
==============================================

You've just convinced me to support Ted Cruz.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 02, 2016 03:33 PM (dFi94)

271 249 Harun, do you get paid, or do you this for free?

His well reasoned arguments has me thinking...

Is Trump for Goodness?

Or Badness?

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 03:33 PM (Zs4uk)

272 >>But it's different because you hate trump. Got it.

No, you most definitely don't get it. I have said repeatedly that what I don't like about Trump is that he changes his positions constantly. He's gone from being a lifelong liberal Democrat to holding positions on things like abortion which are to the right of just about everyone. It doesn't pass the laugh test.

He rails against illegals while hiring them to build his hotels. He talks about balancing the budget and increasing spending on the military without touching entitlements. Please note, this is impossible.

I don't hate Trump. I'm not terribly fond of him and I do not want him to be President. I'm pretty sure I'm still allowed to not like certain candidates.

But Trump supporters always insist anyone who doesn't blindly support Trump hates him for irrational reasons. If that makes it easier for you to justify Trump have at it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 03:34 PM (/tuJf)

273 So for free then. Like us.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:32 PM (uURQL)

Yeah and I've GOT to do something about it, frankly.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:34 PM (xuouz)

274 Yeah and I've GOT to do something about it, frankly.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:34 PM (xuouz)

*summons the Ravage*

The PowerBall jackpot is mine.

*narrows eyes*

Posted by: alexthechick - Banderette at May 02, 2016 03:35 PM (mf5HN)

275 @GoK:

Though I think it's a little sadder to find the latest ginned up outrage, and then propagate that everywhere in the desire to hurt Trump ... and in light of your last comment on the race/crime/rape undertones ... helping Trump.

It's certainly nice of him to do that for free ... but he should get paid, y'know?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:35 PM (uURQL)

276 As we perform this exercise, let me note that this is freaking twitter, where you throw out short thoughts limited to 140 characters.

Now contrast that single tweet with Field's published article "In her own words ...". How many lies can you spot in it? There's at least 9.

What is the standard of research and provability for a published article compared to a tweet?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:19 PM (uURQL)

I've been saying for awhile... this is all a Rorschach test...

We have one side where Trump is Devil, and anything he does will be looked at through that filter...

We have another side where Trump is perfect... and he can do no wrong...

Those of us in the middle... are shouted at by BOTH sides...

Its like the abortion thing... where the vast majority of people in America won't talk about it, because they KNOW they will get yelled at by extremists on both sides...

So they don't talk about it at all... sadly...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 02, 2016 03:35 PM (qf6WZ)

277 249 Harun, do you get paid, or do you this for free?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:29 PM (uURQL
-------------------
Big Oil is paying him!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 02, 2016 03:35 PM (T/5A0)

278 "Is Trump for Goodness?

Or Badness?"

Bidness

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 02, 2016 03:35 PM (ptqRm)

279 Yeah and I've GOT to do something about it, frankly.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:34 PM (xuouz)

Trump should pay us. /nod

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:35 PM (uURQL)

280 I'm actually paid by all the entertainment.... I'm cheap, what can I say?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:35 PM (uURQL)

281 How many news cycles is Trump going to dominate/hijack with this damn Tyson stuff?

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (mcm0N)

282 Wasnt too long ago you morons were praising these women for their beauty, brains, and political acumen. Now they are just mouths to stick you dicks in. smh

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 03:18 PM (iQIUe)

Reading your comment. Looking at pics of Andrea Tantaros.

I'll be in my bunk for a while...

Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (i6i8K)

283 When I shirk work its not free. I own the business so I am actually hurting myself.

I am a self-funding shill.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (UBBWX)

284 I think it's "bocca" di pompino.
And now I'm the Spelling Fascist in multiple languages.

Yeah, I corrected myself at #38.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (1xUj/)

285 What is the standard of research and provability for a published article compared to a tweet?

Peer review, for some values of peerage.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (5SCZ4)

286

Methos

thank you for that. I knew I had heard that before.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (zOTsN)

287 I'm giving Tantaros a pass on this--and not because she reminds me of an ex-girlfriend--and I put her complaint next to the comment Clarence Thomas made about a "high-tech lynching." Both are comments are designed to throw the opponents off-guard, and while somewhat "low", they are usually effective.
And while I've never been a big conspiracy guy and usually agree with ace, I happen to believe Andrea on this. She is conservative, she's a fighter--okay, she's a bitch in high heels--and she's pro-Trump, and it wouldn't surprise me that the NRO bunch and others want her out...

Posted by: JoeF. at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (1kq9U)

288 They're manufactured under patent by Acme Androids, Inc.
Warehouses full of them. Different chips for different news shows. Interchangeable.

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:33 PM (zuTLp)

Stepford Wives, Fox Division....

Posted by: Don Q. at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (qf6WZ)

289 Gerorge Soros, #127:

"One of things that is learned in college is to look down one's nose at people who believe in conspiracies. This gives the person who has that view a sense of superiority to those who don't"

There's a flip side to that. Your conspiracy-theory-hobbyist flatters himself that *he* sees the truth, while all the other sheeple are taken in. Only he and a select few have the insight to discern what others don't.

Also it's tennis with the net down. There's no disproving any conspiracy theory. To any true believer, all the evidence against a given theory, and the complete lack of evidence for, is proof of how diabolically effective the conspiracy is.

That's what it comes down to: Falsifiability. Of course there are conspiracies in the world. The real ones tend to be of the type you could disprove if they were wrong. Also they tend to be quite simple, whereas conspiracy hobbyists' creations tend to be the philosophical equivalent of Rube Goldberg machines.

Posted by: JPS at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (fb5xB)

290 281 How many news cycles is Trump going to dominate/hijack with this damn Tyson stuff?
Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (mcm0N)

Crap, now the guys in the chicken business?
Is there Anything he doesn't invest in?

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (zuTLp)

291 And yet every Trump supporter thinks the Fields issue became news in a
vacuum. They spin or ignore or dismiss all the issues of Trump's
innuendo for violence that preceded the incident.
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We don't do anything of the sort.

We recognize that there was a concerted effort by the gope, and those with interests in alignment with theirs, to otherize Trump (and his supporters) by fabricating the idea that he's a fascist thug with violent supporters who are all wannabe nazis. Based on entirely appropriate reactions to leftists disrupting his campaign events. The Fields event was the lynchpin of their fantasy, and the way it blew up in their faces is a large part of the reason he's immune from criticism today.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (ZbV+0)

292

Chem Trails

just because

Chem Trails

Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:38 PM (zOTsN)

293 They fired Tarantos for being pro-Trump--but not Dobbs, Bolling, Geraldo, Jesse Waters and Kilmeade? Please.

***

Bolling! FFS! the dude has ruined The Five

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 02, 2016 03:39 PM (SEXy3)

294 Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!

Posted by: Desiree Washington at May 02, 2016 03:39 PM (4AVeu)

295 Crap, now the guys in the chicken business?
Is there Anything he doesn't invest in?
Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (zuTLp)

****
LOL!

Posted by: Andrea Tarantos Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down at May 02, 2016 03:39 PM (mcm0N)

296 When I shirk work its not free. I own the business so I am actually hurting myself.
I am a self-funding shill.
Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 03:36 PM (UBBWX)

I admire your commitment, and my condolences.

May you be entertained.

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 03:39 PM (uURQL)

297 292

Chem Trails

just because

Chem Trails
Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:38 PM (zOTsN)

George Norian would like you to do a guest spot....

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:40 PM (zuTLp)

298 Haven't seen a media member yet call the Trump/Cruz war down the middle.

Not a one.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 02, 2016 03:40 PM (8v0G6)

299 Who says Tarantos is being fired? I have not seen that anywhere

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 03:40 PM (V/InG)

300 If that makes it easier for you to justify Trump have at it.
Posted by: JackStraw

First, this is crap since I am NOT justifying trump. I don't support him and I don't want him to be the nominee.

Second, your points in this last point are similar to my own.

I STILL do not give a shit that a member of the MFM ran into his campaign manager or any other campaign manager. I want what Dr. Kissinger wanted in this situation; casualties.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (326rv)

301 Almost 300 and no pic of Andrea playing in the sand.

http://tinyurl.com/jnj9qo5

Dah fuq is wrong with you

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (/CXhS)

302 Fuck Trump Cruz in Indiana, we should all be rooting for sanders to beat the lying bitch in Indiana

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (V/InG)

303 Breaking news! Jesus has come back! Well, not Jesus exactly but Hillary. Reverend Anthony of NAACP says Hillary has great accomplishments like Jesus, has made the blind see and the crippled walk.

See WZ.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (Nwg0u)

304 I am the one who entertains

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (xuouz)

305 Argh. I just contradicted myself re not disproving "any" conspiracy theories.

And thanks, ThunderB, for 292 - always brightens my day. A fellow I don't know well posted recently to Facebook asking if anyone knew why the spraying activity was so high these days. He got one wonderfully lucid answer about the water produced when you burn hydrocarbons, and why sometimes you get contrails and sometimes you don't. I didn't have the heart to check back and see how many people insisted he was wrong.

Posted by: JPS at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (fb5xB)

306 Eh, all of this is part of the election season in the Age Of The Internets. Back in the day, it was mostly personal, with neighbors yelling at neighbors and family members not speaking to one another for years. Folks meeting in parking lots, calling each other doo-doo heads. Kids pick up the lingo during their formative years.

So, yeah.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 03:42 PM (JBggj)

307

so why do they want her to take a break. Is it money? Was she insufficiently supportive of Megyn and Fields? Drunk at a work function? Sex in the coat room at the correspondents dinner? What is it? Took them a while to get rid of Beckel

Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:42 PM (zOTsN)

308 What the chance Fox can find another mildly educated, attractive woman who is somewhat articulate, has some political experience and sports a nice set of legs? It might just be me, but I am pretty sure they have a closet full of them.---------Marcus T

Binders full, actually.

Posted by: Fox News at May 02, 2016 03:42 PM (+aCe4)

309 301 Almost 300 and no pic of Andrea playing in the sand.

http://tinyurl.com/jnj9qo5

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (/CXhS)

You're a fine American

Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2016 03:43 PM (i6i8K)

310 BTW, Heidi called her husband an "immigrant".

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2016 03:43 PM (JBggj)

311 Fuck Trump Cruz in Indiana, we should all be rooting for sanders to beat the lying bitch in Indiana

-
Bern, Baby, Bern.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 02, 2016 03:43 PM (Nwg0u)

312 Posted by: JPS at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (fb5xB)

And yet, there HAVE been conspiracies throughout History.

Secret Deals... Secret Societies... Secret Treaties... Groups with Hidden Agendas...

Heck... there is a VERY weird one going on right now with Fake Man made Global Warming....

They are literally changing historic data to perpetuate a fraud, which will keep people in fear, and so give up power to an unelected Environmental Elite....

Can you point to any one secret society doing this"? some Evil Genius Mastermind??? uh... no...

and yet.... its happening....

Posted by: Don Q. at May 02, 2016 03:43 PM (qf6WZ)

313 nood, no mention of Crump, just Frenchie language stuff.

Posted by: kraken at May 02, 2016 03:44 PM (zuTLp)

314 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 02, 2016 03:41 PM (/CXhS)

Oh my!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at May 02, 2016 03:44 PM (hLRSq)

315 Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (ZbV+0)

The GOPe forces Trump to make assinine declarations. That's a given. They are all powerful.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 03:46 PM (6qmBU)

316 Watters got in a fist fight and they didnt suspend him. Granted it was not his fault.

Geraldo and the shirtless bathroom selfies? Nope, thats good.

Beckel and the f bombs? Good until the back medicine caught up with him?

Kimberly drunk on air on New Years? Still good.

O'Reilly sending suggestive harrassing texts to a produce? Ok. Choking his wife out in front of the kids and losing custody? Still good

what did she do that they felt was so compromising?

Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 03:47 PM (zOTsN)

317 "Reactionary, as someone who had this bullshit leveled at me somewhat persistently a few months back, don't go there. It's bs. It's Harun, he's been around. Even if he is a shill, you can't prove it.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:31 PM (xuouz) "

Those wily Jews are really good at hiding the paper trail, after all.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at May 02, 2016 03:47 PM (kumBu)

318 The Fields event was the lynchpin of their fantasy, and the way it blew up in their faces is a large part of the reason he's immune from criticism today.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:37 PM (ZbV+0)

Well put.

Someone is going to put a compilation of articles that were artfully written, somewhat in competition with one another by right wing east coast writers trying to show how they could manipulate the words and facts to glean a headline closest to "Trump Rips Woman's Arm Off".

As hilarious as it is now, these people were serious thinking they had fell on the one thing that would unite the right against Trump.

These articles will go down in history as comedy gold.

Posted by: jwest at May 02, 2016 03:47 PM (Zs4uk)

319 They're manufactured under patent by Acme Androids, Inc.
Warehouses full of them. Different chips for different news shows. Interchangeable.

-
Factory used to be in Philly but they had to outsource to Mexico because of union contracts.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 02, 2016 03:48 PM (Nwg0u)

320 O'Reilly is a kale-fucker!

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 02, 2016 03:48 PM (2cS/G)

321 And yet, there HAVE been conspiracies throughout History.
---
The whole point of the CIA is that we expect some folks outside the country are conducting conspiracies against us. 9/11 *was* a conspiracy, certainly among Al Qaeda, possibly involving members of the Saudi government.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:49 PM (ZbV+0)

322 This was all his audition.

Now it's time to turn the strange orange man with the helmet hair on the left.

It will be glorious. GLORIOUS.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at May 02, 2016 03:49 PM (xuouz)

323 I miss Big Anus....

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 03:49 PM (iQIUe)

324 "#Breaking Results of @ABC7 @surveyusa poll of California voters:

GOP:
@realDonaldTrump 54%

@tedcruz 20%

@JohnKasich 14%"

https://twitter.com/abc7elex/status/727211254197035009

Posted by: Ricardo at May 02, 2016 03:51 PM (/sGNA)

325 The GOPe forces Trump to make assinine declarations. That's a given. They are all powerful.
---
That's also not even close to what I said.

It was the collection of those events, without regard to the root cause (the leftist infiltrators), for the purpose of creating a false narrative, that is the gope/fellow travellers' doing.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:51 PM (ZbV+0)

326 Lets connive to get those Americans. They will never know it was us.

Now who can we use so that they won't suspect we are involved?

Posted by: Saudi Arabia government leaders at May 02, 2016 03:52 PM (6qmBU)

327 "And yet there HAVE been conspiracy theories ...."

I don't doubt that rich , powerful assholes get together and try to "control" things. This has always been true.
But I don't buy the "secret" part. People talk shit, and as Mark Twain said, "Three people can keep a secret--as long as two of them are dead..."

Posted by: JoeF. at May 02, 2016 03:53 PM (1kq9U)

328 Put her back on FNC, she makes my eyeballs happy

Posted by: TeamRawDog at May 02, 2016 03:53 PM (10hEu)

329 "She makes my eyeballs happy"
Not just the eye "balls"

Posted by: JoeF. at May 02, 2016 03:55 PM (1kq9U)

330 But I don't buy the "secret" part. People talk shit, and as Mark Twain
said, "Three people can keep a secret--as long as two of them are
dead..."
---
Which is why you can get RICO convictions.

But they were *trying* to keep a conspiracy secret.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at May 02, 2016 03:56 PM (ZbV+0)

331 Nothing unusual here in the new multiverse.

When Trump made his Carly face comment and Carly did her silly face ad, Tantaros jumped in Carly's tracks for playing the Feminist card. Now Charlie Cooke is an evil chauvinist Brit.

As soon as we know it, Tantaros will be Alison Camerata's tag team girl power partner on CNN. Mysteriously, she'll find the light from her new bosses and find her inner love for Hillary.

Posted by: Wendy at May 02, 2016 03:59 PM (bpemY)

332
Women must give husbands sex 'even on camels', Islamic scholar says

http://goo.gl/bEfYqc

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 02, 2016 04:01 PM (iQIUe)

333 "The Establishment" is a real thing, and it does have far too much power, and it must be chastened, but it is now an all-purpose left-wing identity-politics scare-figure and Conspiracy Theory Boogeyman to explain away every event that happens in the world.
*******

A world-view you helped to foster, over the teardrops. Why are you tut-tutting at the Trumpers for just taking it further to its logical conclusion. That dastardly Establishment, what dark and terrible consequences can't they effectuate?

Posted by: Vyce at May 02, 2016 04:04 PM (zMN+i)

334 I'll miss her attributes.

Mainly her bewbs and legs

Posted by: dick butkis at May 02, 2016 04:04 PM (R5HRU)

335 I want to know who is behind the conspiracy to attribute to Mark Twain stuff that Benjamin Franklin said.

Posted by: Sam Haysom at May 02, 2016 04:04 PM (b1sBE)

336 Please. This coming from the guy who for weeks was white knighting Michelle Fields.

Posted by: David Silver at May 02, 2016 04:06 PM (WBahS)

337 Tantaros doesn't have enough pull to survive a kerfuffle with Ailes. The big boys and girls at Fox could do so, but she hasn't worked her way into that group yet, so she sits. And yes, it's about Trump, and her support for him.

Posted by: Mitt McBushio at May 02, 2016 04:23 PM (sIbmA)

338 Remind me again why the right *shouldn't* be adopting SJW tactics?

Seems to me the progressives have won, won, and won some more ever since the SJWs ate the Democrat party following the 2004 election?

Seems to me tribalism works great for them. Perhaps we should try it.

Posted by: Matt at May 02, 2016 04:25 PM (ma2Yy)

339 @283
OK, gotta love a self-aware shill! <3 for Harun. Remember when we could mock one another lovingly?

Posted by: Hopeful at May 02, 2016 04:35 PM (5VvBx)

340 @305
Well Argh Argh
Spend much time outside?
There are almost always contrails behind a jet.
Thing is normal contrails evaporate fairly quickly as the jet flies along.
Countless times I've seen this then all of the sudden the contrail quits evaporating. Across most of the visible sky then starts evaporating again. What's left where it didn't starts unfurling for lack of a better word. Other jets join in and in an hour or so a blue sky is now totally grayed out.
Have also seen a lot of them stop, start, start up again full on.
Guess the jet engine quit for a second a couple of times eh?
And by th he way, the proper technical term is geoengineering.

But I won't believe my lyin' eyes.

Posted by: teej at May 02, 2016 04:45 PM (0RM+L)

341 teej,

I've spent a lot of time outside, and never observed what you describe. I'm not saying your eyes are lying. So let me assume you are exactly correct in your observation, that therefore the contrails must be artificial, and that they do represent geoengineering.

- To what end?
- Who's paying for it?
- What's the chemical?
- What are its density and vapor pressure? (Answer the previous one and I'll look them up.)
- How much coverage would you need to achieve the desired effect?
- We're probably talking about some serious cargo here. Are passenger flights hauling this extra weight, or are special cargo flights designated for this purpose?
- If not passenger flights: Civilian, or military? If military, where is the DoD getting all these assets? (Ever been involved in planning a mission requiring airlift support? They don't have all the capacity they could ever ask for just to do the missions we all know about.)
- Either way, the plane is going to have to be modified to dispense this cargo. That kind of thing leaves records.
- A whole lot of people are going to have to be in the know one way or another.
- Is this just over the US, or does it happen elsewhere as well?

Bottom line: I'm going to need something a little more specific before I buy into this theory. Not saying it's not possible, just that I have no reason to believe it yet.

Posted by: JPS at May 02, 2016 05:02 PM (fb5xB)

342 Social Justice Warrioring -- identity politics -- posits as a central tenet that the tribe is pure and, more importantly, the other tribes are wicked and full of deceit and evil.

----kinda like how you treat Trump and his supporters, right???

Posted by: Tradd at May 02, 2016 05:20 PM (EQcBC)

343 That's a left-wing feminist type of line -- the boys are out to get me because I'm "a girl"! -- and like most things left-wing feminists claim, it's bonkers.

----Like you supporting Michele Fields going all hysterical over a minor arm grab that a man would've brushed off or maybe responded to with a "hey, f--k you guy" right?

Posted by: Tradd at May 02, 2016 05:23 PM (EQcBC)

344 Trump supporters unaware of that he claimed Tyson was railroaded?

http://tinyurl.com/gvqoegu

LOL. Man, when Hillary runs these ads, your mind will be blown!

Posted by: Harun

I dont think Hillary wants to touch that third rail.

Posted by: Jean at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (cXiMR)

345 Seems to me tribalism works great for them. Perhaps we should try it.

Posted by: Matt at May 02, 2016 04:25 PM (ma2Yy)

because like most things, the right is trash at it and it's not a battle where they wouldn't be laughed out of the building

Posted by: the dude at May 02, 2016 06:01 PM (SyKbw)

346 This explains Howie Carr's clownish remarks about Christians the other day.

Posted by: K-Bob at May 02, 2016 06:06 PM (26zxJ)

347 "One of things that is learned in college is to look down one's nose at
people who believe in conspiracies. This gives the person who has that
view a sense of superiority to those who don't"

There's a flip side to that. Your conspiracy-theory-hobbyist
flatters himself that *he* sees the truth, while all the other sheeple
are taken in. Only he and a select few have the insight to discern what
others don't.

Also it's tennis with the net down. There's no disproving any
conspiracy theory. To any true believer, all the evidence against a
given theory, and the complete lack of evidence for, is proof of how
diabolically effective the conspiracy is.

That's what it comes down to: Falsifiability. Of course there are
conspiracies in the world. The real ones tend to be of the type you
could disprove if they were wrong. Also they tend to be quite simple,
whereas conspiracy hobbyists' creations tend to be the philosophical
equivalent of Rube Goldberg machines.

"Of course there are
conspiracies in the world." Admitting that will get you kicked out of the superior thinkers club.

Let me see if I understand: A false conspiracy theory is one that can't be disproved - while an actual conspiracy is one that can be disproved. So if you can prove no conspiracy existed - that was an actual conspiracy. Very nuanced thinking there.

Posted by: An Observation at May 02, 2016 06:20 PM (aQqA3)

348 An Observation:

"Admitting that will get you kicked out of the superior thinkers club."

Well, see, that's my whole objection to most conspiracies: Assuming things you don't need to assume. I don't consider myself part of a superior thinkers' club. Wouldn't want to join one if it existed.

"Let me see if I understand: A false conspiracy theory is one that can't be disproved - while an actual conspiracy is one that can be disproved."

If that's what you think I meant, I wrote even more unclearly than I thought. I already goofed, writing hastily, first saying they can't be disproven, then using falsifiability as a criterion for plausible versus implausible conspiracy.

A real conspiracy, in my highly flawed, non-superior view, is one that could be disproven if it were untrue. And if it doesn't get disproven, then it may be true.

If it would be impossible to disprove a conspiracy if it weren't true - and for your a lot of the best theories out there, it would be - then it's not even wrong. It belongs to the infinite number of theories that *could* be true if I had more information. I'm not obligated or inclined to believe them until I do.

"So if you can prove no conspiracy existed - that was an actual conspiracy."

No. Again: If you can prove it existed, it did. If you *could* readily disprove it if it were untrue, I'll entertain it until it is disproven, and if it stands up substantively to numerous good attempts to refute, I'll tend to believe it. If it can't be proved or disproven, my life's too short. Your leisure time is your business.

"Very nuanced thinking there."

I don't claim it is. It works for me, as far as it goes. Your results may vary, and I guess do.

Posted by: JPS at May 02, 2016 07:29 PM (9ziuC)

349 The vague reason given for the disappearance of Tantaros from the Fox News screen is "contractual issues".

I suspect what this means is that her contract has a clause obligating her not to denigrate political causes favored by the folks who run Fox News. A "don't bite the hand that feeds you" sort of clause.

Fox News is generally anti-Trump. They do try to live up to their "Fair and Balanced" slogan, so show hosts are allowed to say nice things about Trump, which is why Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs still have their jobs; while they do tend to say nice things about Trump, neither of them has actually come out and officially endorsed Trump. They tend to say nice things about Cruz and Kasich, too.

Tantaros, though, is an outspoken, official Trump supporter. I think this is the reason they're finding her to be possibly in violation of her contract, and responding by basically giving her a "time-out".

Fox News is softening a bit in its anti-Trump stance these days, but still isn't really prepared to let a full-on Trump supporter on the air. I expect that they'll let her back on the air once Trump has clinched the nomination, which will allow their "Fair and Balanced" branding to apply specifically to the binary choice of Trump vs. Hillary.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 02, 2016 09:35 PM (0OG8D)

350 Good to see Ace is back to hammering feminists. I guess we are all supposed to forget his slobbering love affair with Michelle Fields, may she rest in peace.

Posted by: FOAM at May 02, 2016 11:24 PM (7l0Lm)

351 #350: Easy for you to say, FOAM. You still have full use of both of your arms.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 02, 2016 11:39 PM (0OG8D)

352 Andrea leaving Fox is an opportunity to introduce some more diversity in the regular cis female cast.

I propose Katie Fang and Michelle Malkin, preferably in high heels, stockings, and thongs. Gyrating on stripper poles, like many Asian sex workers do. Don't want any cultural appropriation by asking Kimberly Guilfoyle (THAT WHITE C&$^!!!) to do it.

Posted by: Doppelganger SJW at May 03, 2016 10:29 AM (uzNN5)

353 Yeah, about that Question Tammy asked in the last thread and one of the topics for the ONT...

Guess my Dad is doing OK?

He get's weird and feisty about his pills running out "all the time" (every Friday, it's every Friday, that I do it Dad) but he's going to the gym on his own now.

Though, he recently just asked me why I was working on a Saturday and when I just blinked at him and told him, "It's Tuesday, Dad." He just laughed and said, "I WONDERED why IN would have a primary on a weekend! I just went to the gym yesterday!"

To be fair, he's got a sweet membership at the gym run by the local hospital and he DOES go on Mondays and Fridays...

Posted by: Deety at May 05, 2016 10:50 PM (xPWMR)

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