"We Are Ungovernable." [krakatoa]

I look at the annual May Day ~~festivities~~ hostilities in places like Seattle, and think "If you are a private citizen (much less a cop) and someone throws a brick at you, or swings a club at you, or hurls a molotov cocktail at you, you are within your rights to respond with deadly force." I don't understand the restraint. Well, to be more accurate: I wouldn't understand the restraint in me were I the target. I understand why Leftist institutions continue to coddle and excuse "anarchists", "immigrants", and union thugs: It is still in their interest to legitimize any grievance from the Left.

Things in this country are spiralling quickly to the very anarchy these mobs are agitating for. The systematic "Progressive" undermining of the social structures that provided the foundation of our country's incredible rise is almost complete, to the point where we have to endure "serious discussions" about whether or not people should have to use their biologically appropriate public facilities. Meanwhile, very real and very obvious lawbreaking is ignored or, if ignoring it is impossible at the moment, it is ennobled by the "intellectual" class, so long as those acts are committed by the "right" people, in service of the "right" causes. The narrative must be maintained.

There doesn't seem to be a cause that the Left cannot take to the most irrational and contentious conclusion, and every cause now requires the submission of the people, of ALL the people, in deed and most disturbingly, in mind. Dissenting thought is punished with social stigmatizing and with campaigns to remove private citizens' livelihoods, and the drive is fully under way to codify the Left's terroristic swatting tactics and to legitimately punish with the full force of the state anyone who is guilty of stating a belief that was altogether unremarkable less than a decade earlier.

The Left is on a blood drive, quite literally, and the donor is every single productive member of society, whether they realize it yet or not.

Some of the weapons collected at tonight's protest, incl Molotov #MayDaySea pic.twitter.com/MRdfBuZYdi
— Seattle Police Dept. (@SeattlePD) May 2, 2016

Ilya Somin suggests an international movement to enshrine May 1st as "Victims of Communism Day". I cannot imagine any major Western nation actually embracing such a thing.

The cultural rot is too deep for such a thing. The far Left is ungovernable. The so-called moderate Left is morally adrift in a post-modern dive to the bottom. The new moderate Right is one poll away at any time from a pivot on the principles they were elected on. And every principled Conservative is by common decree a bigoted throwback to barbaric times.

We seem doomed to repeat history, and I sincerely hope we can find some way avoid it. If not, I suspect everyone will get a very existential lesson in real intolerance, and its constituent real barbarism.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 05:40 PM

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1 Mostly peaceful My ass...

Posted by: donna at May 02, 2016 05:46 PM (O2RFr)

2 "The Left is on a blood drive, quite literally, and the donor is every
single productive member of society, whether they realize it yet or not."

Well said.
And freakin scary!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2016 05:47 PM (NOIQH)

3 All the big cities are going to look like New York in the movie Escape from New York.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 02, 2016 05:48 PM (tf9Ne)

4 The violence in Seattle was done AFTER the "May Day" parade by a group of communist thugs who came in from out of town just to instigate that violence. That has been part of their strategy since the riot at Kent State that got those students shot.

They uually like to stage an instigator in the crowd both to egg on the useful idiots and then ultimately to provoke the cops. Then the instigator slips out before the arrests are made.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 05:49 PM (vvmPQ)

5 Go to ZombieTime's site and you'll find a photo at the How Berkeley Can You Be festival, with a child at a game called "Pin the Molotov Cocktail on the Cop Car." No lie. I used to live out there - people like that are nuts, live in a bubble, and will get violent (full Manson) if you disagree. Not the happy-go-lucky types they believe themselves to be. God help their children. God help our children if their lives someday intersect with the nutcases' children. It's a destructive form of tribalism.

Posted by: Crowley at May 02, 2016 05:49 PM (9nRhy)

6 Trump causes riots!

Posted by: Juan Williams at May 02, 2016 05:49 PM (k4M/B)

7 Ermmm...."epic" Jurassic Park sidebar....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 05:49 PM (FsuaD)

8 The Left is on a blood drive, quite literally, and the donor is every single productive member of society, whether they realize it yet or not.

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Yes, as anyone who has studied the French Revolution would know.

Posted by: SH at May 02, 2016 05:49 PM (T2aky)

9 Krak your right in your conclusion

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 05:50 PM (PFZvJ)

10 Keep stocking up on beans and bullets. The dark times are nigh.

Posted by: ajmojo at May 02, 2016 05:50 PM (1H9ox)

11 Invest in precious metals.

Steel, lead, and brass.

Posted by: EC at May 02, 2016 05:51 PM (j8YpL)

12 How does one get into a hot frenzied lather about something, anyway, where you're so mad you assault the police? Do they go to meetings and decide this game plan beforehand?

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 05:51 PM (CFc5L)

13 Every member of that mob should've been gunned down in the streets and the bodies thrown into the local trash dump.

Maybe identify them and burn their families houses down just to drive the lesson home.

Posted by: Tradd at May 02, 2016 05:51 PM (EQcBC)

14 Can't wait for the Republican convention... That should be a riot.... literally...

Posted by: donna at May 02, 2016 05:51 PM (O2RFr)

15 Funny never saw these type of protests in Communist countries on July 4th.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at May 02, 2016 05:52 PM (6qmBU)

16 Well, as I mentioned below, GA-based Mossberg is eager to follow Obama's wishes and make their shotguns usable only by the owner...meaning fingerprint...

*front page of today's paper*

*considers cost of uncovering all the "lost" weapons in local waters*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 05:52 PM (FsuaD)

17 12 Do they go to meetings and decide this game plan beforehand?

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 05:51 PM (CFc5L)

Yes, the commie instigators do. And as I said, they are using the stupid crowds as a cover.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 05:52 PM (vvmPQ)

18 Passed along a website Democide yesterday all about goverments killing their own citizens. Was reading some of that site today never realized Mexico has quite the dark side around the turn of the 19th to 20th century

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 05:52 PM (PFZvJ)

19 >> I don't understand the restraint.

I thinks it's now happening because:

1) Lefty/Commie city leaders like de Blasio *order their police to stand down*, give the rioters room, like in Baltimore.

2) The police have been cowed by the Ferguson effect - they know that they will catch hell in the MSM if they hurt someone, and that their city leaders will *not* back them up. Hey, why take the risk?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 02, 2016 05:52 PM (NOIQH)

20 First the casinos and then the streets.

Posted by: Cher at May 02, 2016 05:53 PM (FXW24)

21 Well said, krakatoa!
Very well said indeed.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 02, 2016 05:54 PM (T/5A0)

22 I like the idea of Victims of Communism Day. Will have to do that with my kids. When *I* was a kid (and no it wasn't that long ago) May Day meant making little paper flower baskets to give people.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 02, 2016 05:54 PM (GDulk)

23 Just wait for the backlash.

Posted by: The guy who's always waiting for the backlash at May 02, 2016 05:54 PM (k4M/B)

24 Notice they never go to a city like say Florence, SC and do that shit. If they did a lot of them would go home in a body bag.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 05:55 PM (vvmPQ)

25 The country's already lost, the Left completed its' long march through the institutions. The election is about choosing sides for the coming battle.

Pay attention to which candidate's rallies the Left tries to disrupt and shut down, and you'll have a pretty good idea who they think is their greatest threat.

Posted by: Monty James at May 02, 2016 05:55 PM (ZXcF2)

26 Somewhere I read that the left doesn't want to make the world Utopia, they want to make it Portland. Maybe it was here.

Ever watch Portlandia on IFC? Seek it out. Armisen actually really skewers the weird Left with it.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 05:56 PM (2Ocf1)

27 Better a throback than throw-up.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 05:56 PM (+aCe4)

28 Dig a man a post hole...
Give a man a post hole digger...

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2016 05:56 PM (vhmHt)

29 Meaningful change rarely comes by using superior argumentation and making reasonable arguments.

We are not going to get our country back no matter the reasonableness of our argument nor whether we ask nicely.

The only thing that works and has been proven to be effective is violance or the threat of it.

Anything less and your just marking time till the camps open and youre on a train barreling toward oblivion.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2016 05:56 PM (M+Oml)

30 Pay attention to which candidate's rallies the Left tries to disrupt and shut down, and you'll have a pretty good idea who they think is their greatest threat.
Posted by: Monty James at May 02, 2016 05:55 PM (ZXcF2)

I don't think they have enough smarts to really care what they're doing... it's just the mob mentality....

Posted by: donna at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (O2RFr)

31 24 Notice they never go to a city like say Florence, SC and do that shit. If they did a lot of them would go home in a body bag.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 05:55 PM

Heh.

Posted by: Golfman at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (48QDY)

32 I think if left-wing anarchists from places like Seattlr try this shit in Red State America, it will be like a retarded kid from the Special Olympics trying to play in the NBA.

The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students.

Just look at that Heineken bottle for the Molotov cocktail.

Posted by: Bally at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (cq125)

33 May day is a very ancient holiday, but thecommies stole it

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (PFZvJ)

34 We seem doomed to repeat history, and I sincerely hope we can find some
way avoid it. If not, I suspect everyone will get a very existential
lesson in real intolerance, and its constituent real barbarism.

I don't. At this point I'd rather get the shooting started and get it over with.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (LUG6K)

35 France. 1789.

Posted by: Dave with a Brain at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (0a1T6)

36 Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 05:51 PM (CFc5L)

Also remember, these are the product of our fine educational system where "Getting In A Lather" is what they are *trained* to do. The non-rational, highly-emotive zombie feels no need for braaains, but boy will they break a lot of stuff anyway.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 02, 2016 05:58 PM (GDulk)

37 I'm not ungovernable.

Ask my wife.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 02, 2016 05:58 PM (dBmVV)

38 Violent protesters asking for martial law and suspending election = 3rd Oblablah term.

- Barry in dreams from my childhood idol Suharto

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 05:58 PM (nbrY/)

39 Just look at that Heineken bottle for the Molotov cocktail.
Posted by: Bally at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (cq125

It's about the Red Star.

Posted by: Golfman at May 02, 2016 05:59 PM (48QDY)

40 Just look at that Heineken bottle for the Molotov cocktail.

Posted by: Bally at May 02, 2016 05:57 PM (cq125)

Police also reported that they found beer bottles filled with urine, but later retracted it as just a six pack of Miller Light.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 02, 2016 05:59 PM (LUG6K)

41 OT:
the asian guy who played ... 1, invisible, 2, invisible to INFRARED,

Sooo, NinjaSaurus.

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2016 05:59 PM (DL2i+)

42 Abu Hajar and his buddies have better weapons and combat skills.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2016 05:59 PM (vhmHt)

43 I'm not ungovernable.

Ask teh kittehs.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 02, 2016 05:59 PM (3C9q2)

44 After 2012 I pretty much gave up hope that that elections will be
able to turn things around. The electorate is just too dumbed down,
uninformed, and/or indoctrinated and now we have the massive waves of 3rd
world immigration starting to play a major role in elections. We may win a
few victories yet and stem the tide here and there but I see nothing since 2012
that things will change. It does seem some people are possibly starting
to see what is going on but it is just not nearly enough to offset the
huge mass of malicious stupidity we face.

Posted by: Ripley at May 02, 2016 05:59 PM (1BQGO)

45 Leftism is based on four pillars; dishonesty, economic failure, oppression, and mass murder. There is only ONE way to deal with leftists and their allies. Talk around the solution and make any excuses for inaction you will, but the effects of unchecked leftism will be visited upon your children.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 02, 2016 06:00 PM (swEzU)

46 43 I'm not ungovernable.

Ask teh kittehs

True, ask My dog...

Posted by: donna at May 02, 2016 06:00 PM (O2RFr)

47 "The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

They think they will have the full might of the state/military on their side. I don't think they will. We may yet see who is right.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:00 PM (0x/TW)

48

Damn tea partiers

Posted by: ThunderB at May 02, 2016 06:00 PM (zOTsN)

49 Hay Tradd, did you watch Unforgiven recently? Take that elsewhere even if many here agree.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 02, 2016 06:00 PM (8dxdo)

50 Turn a bunch of unarmed veterans against these commie hooligans and see what happens.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:01 PM (FsuaD)

51 but the effects of unchecked leftism will be visited upon your children.

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We can out breed them.

Posted by: SH at May 02, 2016 06:01 PM (T2aky)

52 Police also reported that they found beer bottles filled with urine, but later retracted it as just a six pack of Miller Light.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 02, 2016 05:59 PM (LUG6K)

That's funny because I've heard that for years and recently due to unforeseen circumstance ended up with a six pack of the stuff and...I LIKED IT. It's got a corn kick at the end that I thought was tasty. Or the piss put in the can was from someone who ate a few corn on the cobs.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 02, 2016 06:01 PM (4ErVI)

53
thugs are drinking Heineken? THAT I PAID FOR no doubt.

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2016 06:01 PM (HgMAr)

54 Leftism is based on four pillars; dishonesty, economic failure, oppression, ~~and~~ mass murder, and surprise Five pillars. .

FIFY

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (2Ocf1)

55 >>"The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

*ahem*

Ya think they brought us in here for the health care?

Posted by: 34 million illegals + muslim refugees, immigrants at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (NOIQH)

56 "We can out breed them."

...while they teach your children to hate you. they pollute the educational system

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (swEzU)

57
We can out breed them.
Posted by: SH

We have the technology.

Posted by: Dr. Rudy Wells at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (k4M/B)

58 If you had bet $100 at the beginning of this season that Leicester City would win the Premier League you'd be $500,000 richer today.

Posted by: Mr. Degenerate Gambler at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (m/Gc2)

59 >>We can out breed them.

LOL

Posted by: 34 million illegals + muslim refugees, immigrants at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (NOIQH)

60 These people are the same people who wear Che t-shirts and long for a revolution but have never actually lived under Communist rule.

GLADD came out and is pushing for some of the characters in Star Trek VIII filming in London to be gay. I would rather watch gay dinosaurs prance through Jurassic Park.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (oiNtH)

61 Eleanor Holmes Norton was just on my local news bitching about an ethanol spill from a train derailment. "There's a reason why it's used in gasoline. It's explosive." That is some ethanol fueled burning irony right there. Oh, and screw May Day.

Posted by: no good deed at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (GgxVX)

62 >>>>>France, 1789<<<<

"under the reign of Louis XVI,
longstanding grievances between aristocrat and peasant were about to
boil over. The pot in which these troubles boiled was kindled with the
firewood of oppression and injustice and heated by the flames that
sucked the air from gasping peasants. Would the pot cool off, would it
merely simmer, or would it boil over in the kitchen of France - to stain
the floor of history forever?"

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (tEDMc)

63 Vive Robespierre!
Vive Sanders!
Vive le LGBTXYZ!

Posted by: havildar major at May 02, 2016 06:03 PM (jpW6t)

64 The violence in Seattle was done AFTER the "May Day" parade by a group
of communist thugs who came in from out of town just to instigate that
violence.

Awfully lonely out there at the state line, lotta room for holes in the forest.

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2016 06:03 PM (DL2i+)

65 We can out breed them.
Posted by: SH

We have the technology.
Posted by: Dr. Rudy Wells at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (k4M/B)

BRB. We may be a little too old, but doesn't hurt to try.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:03 PM (2Ocf1)

66 it's gonna come to (among other things) where the rank & file in the military and police fall. If they side with tyranny or remember their oaths.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 02, 2016 06:03 PM (dBmVV)

67 Meanwhile, our public schools are indoctrinating Buffy and Johnny as fast as they can.

Unless people pull their kids out of these government indoc centers, home school or pony up for private schools, we may as well give up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:03 PM (FsuaD)

68

Ya think they brought us in here for the health care?

Posted by: 34 million illegals + muslim refugees, immigrants at May 02, 2016 06:02 PM (NOIQH)

The Central and South American militaries are about as effective as the Iraqi Army.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at May 02, 2016 06:03 PM (LUG6K)

69 Steel bars and a bit of wheelbarrow handle. Big whoop. I could make much cooler and more effective weapons than that with stuff I have lying around.

No imagination, martial knowledge, or pride of craftsmanship with that bunch.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 02, 2016 06:03 PM (bZ7mE)

70 The Roman Republic slid into anarchy and dictatorship because its politicians cultivated resentment and anger among the poor as a means of acquiring political power and wealth.

Not much has changed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 02, 2016 06:04 PM (8ZskC)

71 "The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

Not really. All these millions of illegals aren't just here to vote. They come from society's with long traditions of using violence to settle political.disputes. What they did at that Trump rally last week was just a small taste.

Posted by: Ripley at May 02, 2016 06:04 PM (1BQGO)

72 Abu Hajar and his buddies have better weapons and combat skills.-------garrett

Abu, that's a pinneaple!

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:05 PM (+aCe4)

73 We seem doomed to repeat history,

We have always repeated history. Why stop now?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2016 06:05 PM (zc3Db)

74 The last line of this piece is very fitting. As I've gotten older I'm coming more and more to the realization that the Institutional Left is one day going to push too far.

They don't seem to understand that conservatives have the majority of the privately owned weapons, as well as the majority of the military and police being conservative as well.

They are quite literally the equivalent of a Chihuahua picking a fight with the leashed Pitt Bull. It's all fun and games until the pitt has had its fill. Then it just turns in to a rapid bloody mess.

Posted by: Astyrix at May 02, 2016 06:06 PM (G9Xpr)

75 "We can out breed them."

...while they teach your children to hate you. they pollute the educational system

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Education begins at home. The liberal education system will not out educate what my home does.

And that assumes that my children will be in a state system.

Posted by: SH at May 02, 2016 06:06 PM (T2aky)

76 Most of the lefts street army is either funded directly by the federal government or through the various "NGOs" that are funded by the government.

What you think Murder Inc which recieved 500 million annually doesn't distribute walking around money to its agitators or La Raza or any of the other "advocacy" groups that are generously funded by yours and my tax dollars don't feed their army?

Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2016 06:06 PM (M+Oml)

77 Je suis la mop du plancher de l'histoire

Posted by: Louis XIV at May 02, 2016 06:06 PM (8ZskC)

78 Okay, in a good process on interviews. So far so good. Another interview tomorrow with the VP who is theoretically the hiring manager.

Should be the last interview.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:07 PM (2Ocf1)

79 The film "Climate Hustle" which is open today only, shows an NYU prof who wants humans to be "genetically altered" to be smaller and weigh less.

For Gaia.

Then, there's Bill Nye and other fellow travelers who want "deniers" sent to the Hague and "given a cot and three squares a day" for their "crimes."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:07 PM (FsuaD)

80 Idiocracy and Planet of the Apes is not Fiction I am afraid

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 06:07 PM (V/InG)

81 "every cause now requires the submission of the people, of ALL the people, in deed and most disturbingly, in mind."

What part of "Every knee shall bend" do you not understand? Your only purpose in life is to grovel and pay taxes. You exist at our sufferance. Do not *ever* forget that.

Posted by: The Left at May 02, 2016 06:08 PM (rznWS)

82 gee.... i wonder why the progtards here in #Failifornia are out to disarm the populace?

whatever could they have in mind?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2016 06:08 PM (WhYLb)

83 51
We can out breed them.
Posted by: SH at May 02, 2016 06:01 PM (T2aky)
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I suppose we could --- but we don't.
Sure, we out-breed the rich lefty whites, but we don't come close to out-breeding the FSA.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 02, 2016 06:08 PM (T/5A0)

84 78 Okay, in a good process on interviews. So far so good. Another interview tomorrow with the VP who is theoretically the hiring manager.

Should be the last interview.
Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:07 PM (2Ocf1)

Good luck!

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 06:08 PM (CFc5L)

85 Blaster, there should be no surprise about leftism. Reading Marx, Gramsci, Marcause, Cloward et al is exactly like reading "Mein Kampf"

They tell you what they are going to do, and how they are going to do it. They prey on weak-minded people, and will continue to take advantage of the human condition.

There is only one way to prevent infection to set in. Identify it and disinfect it before it spreads.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 02, 2016 06:09 PM (swEzU)

86 I have no doubt modern leftists like the ancestors want a violent revolution.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:09 PM (PFZvJ)

87 What part of "Every knee shall bend" do you not understand? Your only purpose in life is to grovel and pay taxes. You exist at our sufferance. Do not *ever* forget that.
Posted by: The Left at May 02, 2016 06:08 PM (rznWS)

I'm married with children, so what's your point Einstein?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 06:09 PM (V/InG)

88 I forgot about Climate Hustle until it was too late. closest showing is 40 minutes away, barring traffic. I'll catch it on Youtube/Netfix, etc.

Posted by: Cartoon Network at May 02, 2016 06:10 PM (2cS/G)

89 "The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

Not really. All these millions of illegals aren't just here to vote. They come from society's with long traditions of using violence to settle political.disputes. What they did at that Trump rally last week was just a small taste.
Posted by: Ripley

Oh please. They'll move along to greener pastures.

The reason they're here is because they were too cowardly to stand up to their own corrupt governments.

Posted by: Bally at May 02, 2016 06:10 PM (cq125)

90 I guess this is the fundamental change that we were promised.

Obama keeps a lot of his promises. It's just that they are all bad.

Consider how the Media would treat a violent disruption of a Hillary! speaking event.

In disrupting a Trump speaking event, Trump is a Nazi.

In disrupting a Clinton speaking event, the disrupters would be Nazis.

Not much imagination here, but it's Nazis all the way down.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative...pondering the future at May 02, 2016 06:10 PM (RFeQD)

91 >> If you are a private citizen (much less a cop) and someone throws a
brick at you, or swings a club at you, or hurls a molotov cocktail at
you, you are within your rights to respond with deadly force.

Naw, man. 'Cuz, once the brick or molatov leaves the yoot's hand with said yoot's intent of maiming or murdering you with it, he's unarmed and responding with deadly force would be wrong and stuff. And likely racist.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 02, 2016 06:11 PM (jV8Mq)

92 Sock off

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 02, 2016 06:12 PM (2cS/G)

93 GLADD came out and is pushing for some of the characters in Star Trek VIII filming in London to be gay

Other than Shatner's Kirk... everyone in Star Trek is gay

Posted by: wooga at May 02, 2016 06:12 PM (Jq95F)

94 87
I'm married with children, so what's your point Einstein?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 02, 2016 06:09 PM (V/InG)
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Thread-winner!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 02, 2016 06:12 PM (T/5A0)

95 osted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:07 PM (2Ocf1)

Fingers crossed and prayers up for ya!

Posted by: @votermom at May 02, 2016 06:12 PM (nbrY/)

96 Ermmm...."epic" Jurassic Park sidebar....
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 05:49 PM (FsuaD)

If that's what the movie sidebar looks like, I can only imagine what the review will be ...

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 06:13 PM (uURQL)

97 I watch reddit as a barometer of youth opinion.

On Venezeula's collapse, they had a huge thread with no one mentioning socialism.

One guy even said "corruption, nepotism, and incompetence" was the reason.

Finally had someone mention socialism, and he was derided as being "simplistic."

Which is hilarious. Corrupt, nepotistic countries have toilet paper. Only socialist ones run out.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 06:13 PM (UBBWX)

98 Oh please. They'll move along to greener pastures.

The reason they're here is because they were too cowardly to stand up to their own corrupt governments.
Posted by: Bally at May 02, 2016 06:10 PM (cq125)

I don't know. They seem to be protected here in every avenue, almost like guest ambassadors. While they may not try riots in their own country, who here exactly, is telling them not to?

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 06:13 PM (CFc5L)

99 he's unarmed and responding with deadly force would be wrong and stuff. And likely racist.

I see you've read the ROEs for the US military.

Posted by: no good deed at May 02, 2016 06:13 PM (GgxVX)

100 @32: "The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

They've stacked bodies quite well using the likes of vegetarian painters, history professors, and (Che) pampered graduate students. The only guys who kill like Team Marx are Team Mo, and in the past, Team Genghis.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at May 02, 2016 06:14 PM (rznWS)

101 optimism bias, normalcy bias, ostrich effect

what are other terms for cognitive biases that people use to avoid recognizing and dealing with hard problems?

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 02, 2016 06:14 PM (swEzU)

102 "Just look at that Heineken bottle for the Molotov cocktail."

Heineken! Fuck that shit! Pabst! Blue! Ribbon!

Posted by: Frank Booth at May 02, 2016 06:14 PM (+8Tqi)

103 Mexican drug gangs aren't playing hopscotch.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:15 PM (PFZvJ)

104 Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:07 PM (2Ocf1)

Will keep you in prayer. I actually have a prayer group meeting tomorrow. What time is your interview?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2016 06:15 PM (w4NZ8)

105 @45: "Talk around the solution and make any excuses for inaction you will, but
the effects of unchecked leftism will be visited upon your children."

Assuming you live long enough to have children, comrade.

Posted by: Zombie Vasili Blokhin at May 02, 2016 06:16 PM (rznWS)

106 http://www.dumpaday.com/
funny-animals/little-dogs-vs-
big-couches-is-the-funniest-
thing-youll-see-all-day/

When the dog does it it's funny. College pukes, not so much.

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2016 06:16 PM (DL2i+)

107 All the dinosaurs in Jurassic Planet will be gay. Tag line: The Sequel That Puts the Ass in Jurassic.

Posted by: Jurassic Planet at May 02, 2016 06:16 PM (FXW24)

108 Meaningful change rarely comes by using superior argumentation and making reasonable arguments.

We are not going to get our country back no matter the reasonableness of our argument nor whether we ask nicely.

The only thing that works and has been proven to be effective is violance or the threat of it.

Anything less and your just marking time till the camps open and youre on a train barreling toward oblivion.
Posted by: Kreplach at May 02, 2016 05:56 PM (M+Oml)

The logical arguments aren't for them. They're for us. They're for us to judge whether we're at the point where reasonable men must do unreasonable things of a scope and intensity that makes a kind and gentle man grimace.

"When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 06:16 PM (uURQL)

109 The far left is a small but vocal minority. Most people are ambivalent about all of this. If the radicals keep pushing, they're going to destroy a lot of that ambivalence, and they're gong to learn the hard way that people on the right side of the political spectrum in this country are not people with whom you want to start a shooting war.

To illustrate, justice imagine a combat encounter between the UMass Walrus teamed with the editors of Salon versus the dudes from the "tannerite hog explosion" YouTube video.

Fun, isn't it?

Posted by: Randy Weaver 's Revenge at May 02, 2016 06:16 PM (hxUdS)

110 They better be wearing Kevlar Underoos.

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2016 06:16 PM (HgMAr)

111 103
Mexican drug gangs aren't playing hopscotch.

word

Posted by: decapitated bodies found in AZ just across the border at May 02, 2016 06:16 PM (FsuaD)

112
The film "Climate Hustle" which is open today only, shows an NYU prof who wants humans to be "genetically altered" to be smaller and weigh less.

North Korea leads the way!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 02, 2016 06:17 PM (k4M/B)

113 Damn blackberry. "Justice" should be "just"

Posted by: Randy Weaver 's Revenge at May 02, 2016 06:17 PM (hxUdS)

114 Prayers be with you Blaster, get some good rest tonight

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:18 PM (PFZvJ)

115 Heineken! Fuck that shit! Pabst! Blue! Ribbon!

Posted by: Frank Booth at May 02, 2016 06:14 PM (+8Tqi)
--------Um, Frank. The hipsters "say" they drink Heineken because it's cool. In secret, they drink PBR because it's cheap.They don't want to be associated with Red neck, White socks, and Blue Ribbon Beer! Because only knuckledragging sister humping Neanderthals from Jesus Land fly over country drink PBR.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 02, 2016 06:18 PM (9iR5/)

116 You exist at our sufferance. Do not *ever* forget that.

I'm actually going to forget it right away. :^) I exist at the sufferance-or rather at the wil-l of God. I;d be ready to go tomorrow although I'd of course prefer a peaceful end rather than to die as a martyr.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2016 06:19 PM (w4NZ8)

117
GLADD came out and is pushing for some of the characters in Star Trek VIII filming in London to be gay

Other than Shatner's Kirk... everyone in Star Trek is gay
Posted by: wooga at May 02, 2016 06:12 PM (Jq95F)
...................

and Uhura who is bi, but only with me and that green chick

Posted by: wth at May 02, 2016 06:19 PM (HgMAr)

118 I would rather watch gay dinosaurs prance through Jurassic Park.-------Cheri

I might actually pay to see that. Sounds hilarious.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:20 PM (m3iiU)

119 In the near future, every movie character will "sashay."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:20 PM (FsuaD)

120 although I'd of course prefer a peaceful end rather than to die as a martyr.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 02, 2016 06:19 PM (w4NZ

Martyrdom is extra credit!

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 06:20 PM (uURQL)

121 I'm trying really hard to imagine a t-rex with short, *expressive* forelegs and a lisp-roar.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:21 PM (FsuaD)

122 "The reason they're here is because they were too cowardly to stand up to their own corrupt governments."

That is not really true:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapatista_Army_of_National_Liberation

I again suggest that we cool it on assuming Trump protesters are illegals.

If you called Irish all rapists, you'd have people protesting with Irish flags, too.

Though a lot of the protesters are just professional communists, to be truthful.

Posted by: Harun at May 02, 2016 06:22 PM (UBBWX)

123 180 "The logical arguments aren't for them. They're for us. They're for
us to judge whether we're at the point where reasonable men must do
unreasonable things of a scope and intensity that makes a kind and
gentle man grimace."

Exactly, and considering the history of leftism and the methods it uses to gain control of societies, a reasonable man would consider the necessity of preemptive action in defending his own society against leftism...especially in times when the government of that society has shown no will in defending it's citizens against leftist policy or the "mostly peaceful" riots of the left's brownshirts.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 02, 2016 06:22 PM (swEzU)

124 The cultural rot is too deep for such a thing. The far Left is ungovernable. The so-called moderate Left is morally adrift in a post-modern dive to the bottom. The new moderate Right is one poll away at any time from a pivot on the principles they were elected on. And every principled Conservative is by common decree a bigoted throwback to barbaric times.

'Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.'

W.B. Yeats

Posted by: Josephistan at May 02, 2016 06:22 PM (7qAYi)

125 >>>>The Roman Republic slid into anarchy and dictatorship because its
politicians cultivated resentment and anger among the poor as a means of
acquiring political power and wealth.<<<<<<

Optimate spin.

It wasn't the Populares that broke the peace. A Patrician Consul led a bunch of pissed off Senators into the forum and murdered a Tribune--that was when things started to go to Hell in a hand basket.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at May 02, 2016 06:22 PM (tEDMc)

126 Ever wonder how Spaniards felt in 1935?

Now you know.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 02, 2016 06:23 PM (oKE6c)

127 @104 330 PM Eastern.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:23 PM (2Ocf1)

128 A whiff of grapeshot used to sort these sort of protests out.

Posted by: Knollij at May 02, 2016 06:23 PM (3yslN)

129 Oh, and thanks FS and anyone else offering up good thoughts.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:23 PM (2Ocf1)

130 @87: "I'm married with children, so what's your point Einstein?"

You'll submit, or you'll die. That's the point. Or, if it amuses us, you'll submit and you'll still die. We're good at this game. Your side really, really, really is not.

Posted by: The Left at May 02, 2016 06:24 PM (rznWS)

131 And there it is a long link screwing up the comments. Good job (deleted)

Posted by: NativeNH at May 02, 2016 06:24 PM (+k6Wu)

132 I'm sure 50 million hunters can handle the imports. Or the military in guerilla action.

Posted by: Drill at May 02, 2016 06:24 PM (viHRI)

133 >>If you called Irish all rapists, you'd have people protesting with Irish flags, too.

The claim with the Irish was that they were all drunks that loved to fight in bars.

This was true of course but you can't say it out loud.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 06:24 PM (/tuJf)

134 129
Oh, and thanks FS and anyone else offering up good thoughts.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:23 PM (2Ocf1)

Prayers! May the power of the horde be with you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:24 PM (FsuaD)

135 71
All these millions of illegals aren't just here to vote. They come from society's with long traditions of using violence to settle political.disputes. What they did at that Trump rally last week was just a small taste.
Posted by: Ripley at May 02, 2016 06:04 PM (1BQGO)

Yep, that's just the beginning.

Posted by: rickl at May 02, 2016 06:24 PM (sdi6R)

136 If I see somebody lighting a jug of gasoline to throw at me, I'll be as nice about as I can -- the first shotgun blast will be aimed at the lit bottle in their hand.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 02, 2016 06:25 PM (Phich)

137 might actually pay to see that. Sounds hilarious.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW

More like Rex, the dinosaur from the Toy Story Movies.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2016 06:26 PM (oiNtH)

138 there's a thread over at Weaponsman where social violence/unrest gets discussed, with some fairly interesting commentary and observations... starts about the 5th comment down, by "Kirk"

http://weaponsman.com/?p=31569#comments

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2016 06:26 PM (WhYLb)

139 When all you have is feces every problem looks like a police car.

Posted by: fluffy at May 02, 2016 06:26 PM (2hcmo)

140 136
If I see somebody lighting a jug of gasoline to throw at me, I'll be as
nice about as I can -- the first shotgun blast will be aimed at the lit
bottle in their hand.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 02, 2016 06:25 PM (Phich)

Will you promise to wear a Go-Pro?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:26 PM (FsuaD)

141 As I remember it, the Korean store owners during the LA riots were outnumbered but held their own very well.

Posted by: Cheri at May 02, 2016 06:27 PM (oiNtH)

142 Conservatives are like the Night's Watch. We're looked down on, if not hated by, by all the factions in the realm. We're the only ones who have any idea of the shuddering reality of the enemies trying to get in. And when the realm needs us most, we're far too few in number & are at war with ourselves.

Posted by: Josephistan at May 02, 2016 06:28 PM (7qAYi)

143 >>As I remember it, the Korean store owners during the LA riots were outnumbered but held their own very well.

Roof snipers. High ground.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 06:28 PM (/tuJf)

144 129 Oh, and thanks FS and anyone else offering up good thoughts.
Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:23 PM (2Ocf1)

Will do. At 12:30PDT, I will pause from my usual contempt and disgust that I am always feeling for Obama and the left-tards, and think good thoughts for you and your pursuit of this job.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 06:28 PM (CFc5L)

145 12 How does one get into a hot frenzied lather about something, anyway, where you're so mad you assault the police? Do they go to meetings and decide this game plan beforehand?
Posted by: washrivergal at May 02, 2016 05:51 PM (CFc5L)

Of course. That's exactly what the hard Left does. Having been an observer of any number of such incidents (many years in Berkeley), there were always a few clowns - the same clowns - who attempted to provoke the cops. And the hard Left ALWAYS plans in detail for ALL demonstrations, as I'm sure zombie will confirm.

As in the famous quote from Hunt for Red October, the Reds don't take a dump without a plan.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 02, 2016 06:29 PM (oKE6c)

146 A whiff of grapeshot used to sort these sort of protests out.

In 1789 the Swiss Guard at Parliament, or Versaille or somewhere over there in Paris, were ordered to fire on the mob outside and the Guard refused to fire on unarmed civilians. The hundert and thirty Guardsmen were then beaten to a bloody pulp by 20,000 men armed with sticks.

I should verify some of those details, but that third cookie is going to kill me and I don't feel like checking.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 06:30 PM (KPcL5)

147 shared this in an earlier thread, but it bears being pasted here as well

the LA Slimes is worried about the Mexican flags and violence at Trump rallies helping his campaign...

and yes, not all the protesters are illegals, but they all hate America. F them,

latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-anti-trump -protests-mexican-flag-20160429-story.html

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 02, 2016 06:30 PM (WhYLb)

148 >>> Left ALWAYS plans in detail for ALL demonstrations, as I'm sure zombie will confirm.

Doesn't Black Block indicate they are willing to risk arrest?

Posted by: fluffy at May 02, 2016 06:31 PM (2hcmo)

149 There was far less violence and property damage than many previous years. The Seattle PD did an excellent job of containing and herding the idiots several miles south and out of downtown into a mostly industrial area. They basically wore them out with a long hike. There was a great helicopter shot where as the group passed a McDonalds and an Arby's, some of the "protesters" peeled off to get some of that tasty Evil Capitalist Corporation fast food.

Posted by: Fred Rogers Jr at May 02, 2016 06:31 PM (H6RR2)

150 Mexican flags - and racist, absurd slogans - were features of such "demonstrations" for years now, long before You Know Who ran for president (and *didn't* call all of them rapists, for those in Huffington Post/DU/AP/NYT bubble).

But this misses the point anyway.

Remember it's *racist* to support the rule of law, even if that makes no sense, is insane, and is scurrilous and defamatory besides.

And if you don't know that - and you haven't discovered this by examining your "beliefs" carefully (since when is considering laws, um ..... laws deserving of enforcement qualified as a "belief"?). We have people rightcha here in these comments sections who will explain this to you.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2016 06:31 PM (QDnY+)

151 "Things in this country are spiralling quickly to the very anarchy these mobs are agitating for"

Good. The sooner we can cull the herd of these fifth-column leftists, the better.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at May 02, 2016 06:31 PM (pldrX)

152 More like Rex, the dinosaur from the Toy Story Movies.--------Cheri

He's not quite fabulous enough for what I am imagining.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:31 PM (+aCe4)

153 16 Well, as I mentioned below, GA-based Mossberg is eager to follow Obama's wishes and make their shotguns usable only by the owner...meaning fingerprint...

*front page of today's paper*

*considers cost of uncovering all the "lost" weapons in local waters*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 05:52 PM (FsuaD)

That solves the Mossberg v Remington dispute.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2016 06:32 PM (0mRoj)

154 That solves the Mossberg v Remington dispute.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2016 06:32 PM (0mRoj)

Was it S&W that did something similar a few decades ago? May they meet the same fate.

Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 06:33 PM (uURQL)

155 Left ALWAYS plans in detail for ALL demonstrations,

The also bring their own lawyers and bail money.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 06:34 PM (KPcL5)

156 In 1789 the Swiss Guard at Parliament, or Versaille or somewhere over there in Paris, were ordered to fire on the mob outside and the Guard refused to fire on unarmed civilians. The hundert and thirty Guardsmen were then beaten to a bloody pulp by 20,000 men armed with sticks.

In 1792 the Swiss Guard died to a man defending the Royal family from the mob. They were the inspiration for the famous "Lions of Lucerne" memorial
http://tinyurl.com/nx7f5mz

Posted by: Josephistan at May 02, 2016 06:34 PM (7qAYi)

157 146 - Bastille day,July 14 1789

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:34 PM (PFZvJ)

158 If the leftists push the productive citizens, who actually have some degree of belief in fair value for work and honesty, into the ocean, who will be left to support their useless behinds?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 02, 2016 06:35 PM (hJrjt)

159 >>Left ALWAYS plans in detail for ALL demonstrations

Community Organizer.

During the whole Occupy Wall Street bullshit, Obama said repeatedly that he was on the occupoopers side.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2016 06:36 PM (/tuJf)

160 154 That solves the Mossberg v Remington dispute.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2016 06:32 PM (0mRoj)

Was it S&W that did something similar a few decades ago? May they meet the same fate.
Posted by: HopefulMonster Bravely supporting kittens at May 02, 2016 06:33 PM (uURQL)

Don't know. But any manufacturer that sells out to our fascist government can go to hell.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 02, 2016 06:37 PM (0mRoj)

161 The end is nye.

Posted by: Gene Kelly at May 02, 2016 06:37 PM (xZc4z)

162 Great sidebar article. Oh, and this one's good too.

Posted by: Corona at May 02, 2016 06:37 PM (ragzU)

163 I shudder to think about how the Obama girls will turn out.

Exhibit A: Chelsea

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:37 PM (FsuaD)

164 If the leftists push the productive citizens, who actually have some degree of belief in fair value for work and honesty, into the ocean, who will be left to support their useless behinds?

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 02, 2016 06:35 PM (hJrjt)

They don't care. The Western Left are self-hating, suicidal nihilists. They hate everything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 02, 2016 06:37 PM (zc3Db)

165 There will be no "camps".

You are *in* the camps, now. A place so morally ethically and philosophically alien, repugnant, and unserious that yes, as Krakatoa points out, it is now considered a "serious" topic whether an almost invisibly tiny number of mostly mentally ill people can choose which bathroom to use based on feelz.

A camp ruled over by idiot freaks like Obama, and idiots like Anthony Kennedy, and itty bitty little moral and intellectual pygmies like Roberts.

There will be no spinning out of control, there will be no generalized violence, your gun collections or expertise will not be relevant. There will be no "pushback" - not really.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2016 06:38 PM (QDnY+)

166 S&W did agree to govt. restrictions and they went bankrupt as a result of the boycott.
I have a hard time believing Mossberg would fail to learn from them.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:39 PM (uhftQ)

167 Yes...the Communists and their fellow travelers have murdered hundreds of millions but we still call people "Nazi" or "Fascist" when we want to show how horrible they are as a person. When are we going to see the mass murderers from the 70s and 80s in the former USSR or from Cuba or from China go on trial at the Hague?

Bernie even goes around and proudly proclaims his man love of Marx and Lenin and Mao. Mass murderers all. A good commie is a dead commie.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 02, 2016 06:39 PM (ej1L0)

168 Josephistan at May 02, 2016 06:34 PM

Thanks for that.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 06:39 PM (KPcL5)

169 I truly appreciate the people that Divine Providence has brought into my life over the last 20 plus years. The kind of people you want around you in times like these.
A combination of country boys and their families, former military, people of faith and many of us call into D- all of the above.
Be nice to add a good trauma surgeon to the mix.
Hear that Big Guy?
Thanks.

Posted by: teej at May 02, 2016 06:41 PM (0RM+L)

170 There will be no spinning out of control, there will be no generalized violence, your gun collections or expertise will not be relevant. There will be no "pushback" - not really.
-------------------------------------

That's what I'm afraid of.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at May 02, 2016 06:41 PM (KPcL5)

171
I don't see violence here in my 2x4 rural town as imminent.

The demographics--now--aren't conducive to such.

Still going to attempt to resolve the issues politically, until it becomes impossible.

Not worried about how I will react to violence, I have nothing to wonder about when it gets to nut cutting time.

I just pray it never gets to that.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 02, 2016 06:41 PM (P/8aq)

172 The left, like all who seek revolution, think they can control the whirlwind.

That doesn't always work out to the long-term advantage of the revolutionaries.

Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte at May 02, 2016 06:41 PM (s5o+q)

173 161 Bill is Nye the Anti science guy

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:42 PM (PFZvJ)

174 Whiff of grapeshot ...

Posted by: Jean at May 02, 2016 06:42 PM (cXiMR)

175 I don't see violence here in my 2x4 rural town as imminent.

The demographics--now--aren't conducive to such.

Still going to attempt to resolve the issues politically, until it becomes impossible.

Not worried about how I will react to violence, I have nothing to wonder about when it gets to nut cutting time.

I just pray it never gets to that.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 02, 2016 06:41 PM (P/8aq)

I keep contemplating trying to convince my wife to move a bit further outside a major metro area.

It's a hard sell, unfortunately. She's a city-girl her entire life, and I spent most of my life in towns with populations under 20k.

Posted by: filbert at May 02, 2016 06:43 PM (s5o+q)

176 165---There will be no spinning out of control, there will be no generalized violence, your gun collections or expertise will not be relevant. There will be no "pushback" - not really.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2016 06:38 PM (QDnY+)

This is the way the world ends
the world ends
This is the way the world ends
not with a bang
but a whimper.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 02, 2016 06:43 PM (T/5A0)

177 Meanwhile, very real and very obvious lawbreaking is ignored or, if ignoring it is impossible at the moment, it is ennobled by the "intellectual" class, so long as those acts are committed by the "right" people, in service of the "right" causes. The narrative must be maintained.

You forgot "as long as the mobs don't break any intellectual class shit".

As I've pointed out many times, murders by illegals and bombings by jihadists will be excused and even justified as long as it's just the puny serfs doing the dying.

Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2016 06:43 PM (jSy04)

178 Hairyback Guy, you touch on something, a bit OT but sorta not. Pet theory is that one reason (just one, but a big one) that Russia (and Ukraine and Belarus) are such sick cultures now is that they were the scene of the second greatest organized mass murder and evil in human history.

And not one person ever served one minute of jail time, or even public opprobrium, for these crimes against humanity.

Sure most of human social history is one of oppression by some kind of state, and attendant murder and mayhem. But the Soviet example is in "modern" history, when moral standards were quite different - as confirmed by the secrecy and lies that accompanied most of it.

The perps from the worst period are all gone now, of course, due to age. But its a sickness in Soviet/post-Soviet society that has never been, and never will be, addressed.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2016 06:44 PM (QDnY+)

179 As I happily announced a couple of nights ago, our son is finally getting out of the hood.

Night after night of gunfire was messing with his head, and his sweet dog kept him sane.

He's moving into an apartment complex...roommate-free...by the end of the month.

I cannot tell you guys what a relief that is for us. He's stopped an armed robbery and given first aid to a gunshot victim on his street (hood rat). He said it's hard for him to concentrate on his studies.

*happy, happy dance...although he ain't out yet*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:45 PM (FsuaD)

180
The end is nye.
Posted by: Gene Kelly

The sheriff is near.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at May 02, 2016 06:46 PM (k4M/B)

181 The Left owns the streets. Year after year, protest after protest, they damage property and hurt people, and never pay a price themselves. They have been given absolutely no reason to think things will be different the next time and place they show up to have a riot. The worst they have to fear is tough talk in comment sections about how they're gonna get such a whuppin' some day when they push us too far. I wish I was wrong about this.

It's like Kathy Shaidle says: "Not showing up for the riot is a failed conservative policy."

Posted by: Monty James at May 02, 2016 06:46 PM (ZXcF2)

182 The whiff of grape shot (canister really ) was when a mob was heading for the the Tulleries and Bonaparte was sent to stop the mob.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:47 PM (PFZvJ)

183 Jane, glad to hear it about your son. Good thing.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2016 06:47 PM (QDnY+)

184 My Mossberg 590A1 goes bang when you pull the trigger.

Well, it did of course before it fell out of the canoe.

Looks like Mossberg itself is not changing. They have a subsidiary iGun.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:47 PM (2Ocf1)

185 7 Ermmm...."epic" Jurassic Park sidebar....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 05:49 PM (FsuaD)

That really badly needs to be a thread. Funniest review I've read in a long time, as good as what "The Agony Booth" turns out

Posted by: kbdabear at May 02, 2016 06:47 PM (jSy04)

186 Should have been fall into category D,
But you all know me well enough by now to have figured that out

Posted by: teej at May 02, 2016 06:48 PM (0RM+L)

187 Love the Gender Ambiguous Cat Picture of the Day , witchy cat

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:49 PM (PFZvJ)

188 "The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

They think they will have the full might of the state/military on their side. I don't think they will. We may yet see who is right.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:00 PM (0x/TW"

Imo they think they will have an army of union labored and gangs of minorities. They are right but to what degree.

Posted by: Shiggz at May 02, 2016 06:49 PM (G7wcY)

189 Bill Nye has actually said that climate change "deniers" need to be imprisoned in the Hague.

And hold on to your butts, the guy who put out the Climate Hoax movie that's airing today only, said several states' attorney generals are examining ways to bring charges against the businesses that don't believe in the hoax.

Scary times. Extremely scary times.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 02, 2016 06:49 PM (FsuaD)

190 The sheriff is near.-------Gabby Johnson

Here come de judge.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:49 PM (+aCe4)

191 We have been willowed you know

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:49 PM (PFZvJ)

192 The Left owns the streets. Year after year, protest after protest, they damage property and hurt people, and never pay a price themselves. They have been given absolutely no reason to think things will be different the next time and place they show up to have a riot. The worst they have to fear is tough talk in comment sections about how they're gonna get such a whuppin' some day when they push us too far. I wish I was wrong about this.

It's like Kathy Shaidle says: "Not showing up for the riot is a failed conservative policy."
Posted by: Monty James at May 02, 2016 06:46 PM (ZXcF2)

The tactic works, until it doesn't.

The truly bad feature of the Left's tactic is when it does finally fail, one of its predictable (if not likely) failure modes is catastrophic failure: i.e. full-out, balls-to-the-walls civil war.

Posted by: filbert at May 02, 2016 06:50 PM (s5o+q)

193 I do think they have decided climate change deniers are target #1, look at what Mark Steyn is going through

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:51 PM (PFZvJ)

194 Guess I should go see what the new thread is about.

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2016 06:53 PM (PFZvJ)

195 Jane, that is good news.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 02, 2016 06:55 PM (u82oZ)

196 Jane, get your son a copy of Grossman's "On Killing". It should help with some of those issues.

Posted by: Grad School Fool at May 02, 2016 06:56 PM (swEzU)

197 175
I keep contemplating trying to convince my wife to move a bit further outside a major metro area.

It's a hard sell, unfortunately. She's a city-girl her entire life, and I spent most of my life in towns with populations under 20k.
Posted by: filbert at May 02, 2016 06:43 PM (s5o+q)

Once the shit starts going down, the people in the cities will be on one side and the people in rural areas the other. I can see the suburbs being the front lines. Which is not a pleasant thought, considering that's where I live.

Posted by: rickl at May 02, 2016 06:57 PM (sdi6R)

198
My Mossberg 590A1 goes bang when you pull the trigger.

Well, it did of course before it fell out of the canoe.

Looks like Mossberg itself is not changing. They have a subsidiary iGun.

Posted by: blaster at May 02, 2016 06:47 PM (2Ocf1)

Doesn't matter, they're still being douchebags for even getting involved in that shit.

The reason JugEars and his fucking minions keep talking about smart-guns is because there are several draconian state gun control laws on the books but currently dormant, which will immediately go into effect when a viable production smart-gun is offered for sale to the public. If memory serves, it's New Jersey and my beloved Clownifornia that have these clauses built in to near total handgun bans.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 02, 2016 06:58 PM (o98Jz)

199 How much do you want to bet that the idiots throwing Molotov cocktails at the police are the same crowd pushing for "safe spaces" at their various universities? Yep, mommy's special snowflakes.

Posted by: D the J at May 02, 2016 07:03 PM (nb0oH)

200 "And every principled Conservative is by common decree a bigoted throwback to barbaric times."

Well, that's fine as long as they have superior firepower.

Posted by: Baron bon Mot at May 02, 2016 07:26 PM (J3UIw)

201 188 "The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

They think they will have the full might of the state/military on their side. I don't think they will. We may yet see who is right.
Posted by: Tilikum KAW at May 02, 2016 06:00 PM (0x/TW"

Imo they think they will have an army of union labored and gangs of minorities. They are right but to what degree.
Posted by: Shiggz at May 02, 2016 06:49 PM (G7wcY)

The trick is to make *them* throw the first punch. They need to rebel, not us.

Posted by: Baron bon Mot at May 02, 2016 07:29 PM (J3UIw)

202 Things are so bad in tech that Brendan Eich -- the inventor of JavaScript, the programming language web apps runs on, the single most important programming language technology on earth at this moment -- was forced to resign from fucking Mozilla because HE VOTED INCORRECTLY.

Posted by: gzulux at May 02, 2016 07:39 PM (1/qTn)

203 Since it is becoming increasingly obvious that compliance with the law when nobody else does is a sucker strategy, it seems to me that states should take inspiration from the Sanctuary Cities and start nullifying federal laws that the people in those states don't like. I would start with something that is likely to be popular and at the same time hurt leftists and Democrats.

Intellectual property laws and copyright seems like a good candidate. For one thing, it is something that can be done by thousands of individuals which makes it harder to enforce, especially if federal enforcement officials are followed and their movements are kept updated on a state maintained website.

Depending on how obnoxious Chuck Schumer wants to be about it, the copyright on New York tax stamps for cigarettes and liquor could face the same breezy attitude as DVDs of Frozen or The Lion King.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at May 02, 2016 07:47 PM (6pfDW)

204 And todays youth are being taught by the likes of Saul Alinsky who proudly flaunts the fact that he got away with terrorism.
I'm 77 yr. old now and every once in a while I think I am lucky that I won't be around when our beloved country goes down the tube.

Posted by: Sergeant Major at May 02, 2016 08:11 PM (hCbo0)

205 Yawn. Vote Trump. New executive-backed laws empowering right wing street fighters, disempowering mid-tier meddlers and their foreign funders. Make America Great Again.

Posted by: Dystopia Max at May 02, 2016 09:05 PM (61Gds)

206 #179 Jane, tell him to just hunker down until it's time to unass. He's way too short for that shit.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 02, 2016 10:38 PM (Kucy5)

207 Saul Alinsky long and blessedly dead. Think you meant Bill Ayres.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 02, 2016 10:39 PM (Kucy5)

208 The writer forgot to mention right wing death squads. They're coming to this country. It's inevitable if the left keeps pushing.

That arrival will signal the end of the republic and the start of the dictatorship.

I don't own a gun, so it won't be me. I'll be one of the victims no one cares about.

Posted by: Ddad99 at May 02, 2016 10:42 PM (fUksb)

209 "The Left keeps begging for a war, when the reality is their "infantry" is pampered graduate students."

When it comes the left will be as deadly as it always has.
Jingos who believe the left can't fight are dangerous.

Posted by: jacke at May 02, 2016 10:56 PM (i8Shl)

210 The far Left is ungovernable. The so-called moderate Left is morally
adrift in a post-modern dive to the bottom. The new moderate Right is
one poll away at any time from a pivot on the principles they were
elected on. And every principled Conservative is by common decree a
bigoted throwback to barbaric times.

We seem doomed to repeat history, and I sincerely hope we can find
some way avoid it. If not, I suspect everyone will get a very
existential lesson in real intolerance, and its constituent real
barbarism.
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Well said.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at May 03, 2016 12:25 AM (UCR1O)

211 "All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war."

Posted by: Gmac-Just observing the oncoming times at May 03, 2016 02:25 AM (4pjhs)

212 The easiest way to win a fight is to convince the other guy he doesn't want to fight you. Shoot the guy with the molotov cocktail first so he drops it on himself. FOOSH Then shoot everybody that comes to rescue him. See how many people want to fight after watching their buddies burn to death or get shot. This also brings up "Comedy is 90% timing." Laugh at the guy on fire!

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