I Want the Benefits of Maternity Leave Without Bothering to Have Children, Says Stupid Fat Whore

Insomnia struck again.

To be honest, I'm not sure if this warrants the level of outrage (and insult) I'm giving it. It's a novel -- and it's a chiclit comedy, with a misunderstanding and a pretend pregnancy suit to scam her company.

I'm not sure how seriously she intends the idea of "me-ternity." I think maybe she does mean it a little.

It's extraordinary that feminists claim they want the right to work, then when they get the right to work like men do -- meaning, you show up at your job and work and no, you can't just take a sabbatical (me-battical?) when you feel like you Just Can't Even -- they begin bitching and moaning and claiming they need society to reconform itself yet again to accommodate their ever-growing list of vital needs and demands.

If you don't want to work, fine -- get married, be a housewife.

But what is this shit with the claims that they want to work, and then the constant whining about what work actually entails?

Meghann Foye, 38, was jealous of co-workers clocking out for maternity leave, and decided she needed a break of her own. Here, the author of the novel "Meternity" (Mira, out now), tells The Post’s Anna Davies why she believes every woman deserves mandated "me time."
I was 31 years old in 2009, and I loved my career. As an editor at a popular magazine, I got to work on big stories, attend cool events, and meet famous celebs all the time.
And yet, after 10 years of working in a job where I was always on deadline, I couldn't help but feel envious when parents on staff left the office at 6 p.m. to tend to their children, while it was assumed co-workers without kids would stay behind to pick up the slack.
"You know, I need a maternity leave!" I told one of my pregnant friends...
[T]he more I thought about it, the more I came to believe in the value of a "meternity" leave -- which is, to me, a sabbatical-like break that allows women and, to a lesser degree, men to shift their focus to the part of their lives that doesn't revolve around their jobs.

"To a lesser degree, men" -- because while women are luminous creatures full of creative energies for things besides their jobs, men are expected to be workbrute labordrudges who show up every day to punch the clock while their female co-"workers" (quotes heavily sarcastic) are galavanting around on some much-unearned me-time.

The strongest possible arguments against the equality of the sexes are the stupid self-serving indulgent indolent things that come pouring out of feminists' mouths every damn day.

Feminism is a cult, and one of the cult beliefs of feminism is that women must work, for working is empowering. But it's quite clear that many women simply do not want to work -- yet they feel for maximum "empowerment" they must pretend at work.

Many men don't want to work, either. But we call them "bums." We do not make up cutesy neologisms like "me-ternity" to explain why some lazy men take months and years "figuring themselves out" going on a "Personal Journey to the Heart of the Unexplored Continent Known As Me."

We just say they're broke-ass layabouts.

But feminism says you cannot say anything about a feminist woman that is not positive. So we need to create new words to describe people who want a paycheck without having to actually work.

Just for them. Not for anyone else.

I can't help but notice that all the truly pernicious ideologies seem to posit that the believers in the ideology no longer have to sully themselves with dirty work. Islamists feel work is beneath them; they are Warrior Princes of Allah, who are to be served by slaves. Their "work" is only murder and thinking about Allah's lists of people to be hit.

Communists don't believe in work; they believe in elevating a Revolutionary Vanguard which will Think Big Thoughts while the proles work their benefit. (Communism simply seeks to displace one overcaste for another -- the incoming overcaste being the communists. Go figure!)

And some feminists, despite their religious conviction that work is "empowering" (read: a holy catechism) for women, seem to agitate endlessly for time off.

Work is tough. That's why they call it work.

And some people are simply too lazy or feel too entitled to work.

So they subscribe to ideologies that call their utter unwillingness to make themselves economically productive (or usefully reproductive) seem somehow noble.

Every asshole's dream: To be paid for doing nothing.*

Thus a thousand ideologies breeding rent-seekers and pressure-politics pirates, looting others' hard-won wealth.

* A commenter points out, rightly, that this is everyone else's dream too.

Quite right.

I should have said the asshole move comes in when you begin dreaming up ideological dogmas that claim that you don't have to work, but may seize the wealth of another to support you in your super-urgent Religious Work (whether for Black Lives Matter, communism, "democratic socialism," feminism, or Islamism).

Posted by: Ace at 01:32 PM

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1 I want maternity leave every time I take a dump.

Posted by: johnd01 at April 29, 2016 01:37 PM (ukNFU)

2 I Want the Benefits of Long Term Disability Leave Without Bothering to be Disabled.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 29, 2016 01:38 PM (e8kgV)

3 I mean that's all that children are, an excuse for an extended vacation, right?

Posted by: Flyguy at April 29, 2016 01:39 PM (3sOO0)

4 Just reading the headline I would say "too stupid to breath".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 01:39 PM (vvmPQ)

5 I Want the Benefits of "Black Privilege" Without Bothering to be Black.

Posted by: Martin Luther King 2.0 at April 29, 2016 01:39 PM (e8kgV)

6 >>>We just say they're broke-ass layabouts.

Agreed, but I'm in my forties right now and the idea of slaving away my whole life and then just turning into worm food at the end sounds kind of sad.

Posted by: Max Power at April 29, 2016 01:40 PM (QCc6B)

7 While I applaud the value of work, I would appreciate a hefty inheritance.

*checks gene pool*

Crap. Unlucky again.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2016 01:40 PM (1xUj/)

8 And a tax shelter, too I guess. I mean, not a John Kerry tax shelter, but Uncle Sam loves watching you have kids.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 29, 2016 01:40 PM (3sOO0)

9 Its nothing but a pure conceited, narcissistic, self absorbed sloth cloaking those qualities in a cause.

You get time-off. It's called a VACATION. Deal with it, because people like me who work mostly 12 hour days want to monkey stomp you when they hear your bleating like a spoiled 5 year old.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 01:40 PM (O0lVq)

10 Maybe we can get monthly on the rag leave

Posted by: nckate at April 29, 2016 01:41 PM (/ygaY)

11 *pitches a Midol at Ace*

*runs away*

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 01:41 PM (3ZtZW)

12 Yeah, this is symptomatic of a generation that wants the rewards of achieving milestones without actually achieving the milestones. A sort of adult participation trophy from your employer.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 01:42 PM (NOIQH)

13 Toil is stupid.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2016 01:42 PM (k4M/B)

14 Huh. Nobody's wanted to have kids with her and allow her the joys of maternity leave?

I'm shocked... SHOCKED, I tell ya.

Posted by: Capt. Renault at April 29, 2016 01:42 PM (H9MG5)

15 I Want the Benefits of "Sexism" Without Bothering to have Sex.

Posted by: Hillary "she's too big to jail" Clinton at April 29, 2016 01:42 PM (e8kgV)

16 So is this the script for another Grrl Powerrrrr movie to follow the new Ghostbusters?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 01:43 PM (ec/gS)

17 OTOH paid maternity leave comes out of the hours others have to work often for no increase in pay.

Posted by: DaveA at April 29, 2016 01:43 PM (DL2i+)

18 I'll just decide I identify as a woman and take one too.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 29, 2016 01:43 PM (KUaJL)

19 OK, after skimming through the article I kind of agree with that woman. Women who have babies by their own choice should not get benefits not allocated to other employees.

This is why a LOT of employers try to use stealth methods of not hiring women who are likely to get pregnant shortly after being hired. Of course it has to be stealth because it is AGAINST the law to NOT hire them based on potential pregnancy.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 01:43 PM (vvmPQ)

20 I'm pretty sure that this is a joke. Either that or I'm on the wrong planet.

Posted by: D-9 at April 29, 2016 01:44 PM (+fXXA)

21 Many men don't want to work, either. But we call them "bums."

Err .. *shiftyeyes*

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 29, 2016 01:44 PM (rwI+c)

22 If more women stayed home with their kids and raised healthy families, the country would be better off, going by the number of messed up kids I know. But that doesn't fly with the Church of Me.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 29, 2016 01:44 PM (FQKBL)

23 Stupid fat whore?

Can we narrow that down?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:44 PM (9ym/8)

24 I Want the Benefits of Maternity Leave Without Bothering to Have Children, Says Stupid Fat Whore

Alternate title:
I Want the Benefits of Maternity Leave Without Bothering to Have Children, Says Every Guy Ever.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 01:45 PM (vz4z/)

25 It's really the new scam. Create a "cause" and some contemporary nomenclature in which you can place all your lazy, ineffectual, self important deficiencies and try to summon the outrage police to defend your cause.

These people need a big kick in their fat asses or even a slap in the head at the mere mention of any such false, illogical and purely stupid thoughts.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 01:45 PM (O0lVq)

26 If she self-identifies as pregnant...

{Approved, US of Everybody Approval Dept}

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2016 01:45 PM (hTqVx)

27 Ghostbusters 3: Personal Journey to the Heart of the Unexplored Continent Known As Me

Posted by: brak at April 29, 2016 01:45 PM (MJuTN)

28
It's all by design.

The Left knew this resentment would occur when they created maternity leave.

The Left doesn't just do shit willy-nilly. It's all carefully planned and plotted like a mine field. For instance, Civil Unions.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 01:46 PM (T0BVJ)

29 ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!ME! ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!ME!ME!...

Posted by: Meghann Foye at April 29, 2016 01:46 PM (YFFpo)

30 "Says Every Guy Ever."

Ya know, now, I think guys can take ma/paternity too per U.S. law.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:47 PM (9ym/8)

31 I want maternity leave every time I take a dump.

Pro tip: Moar fiber.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 01:47 PM (vz4z/)

32 Where is Captain Ahab and Ishmael when you need them?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 01:47 PM (ec/gS)

33 The people who should be outraged are the people who fought to get maternity leave.

But they are not. They're probably now out lobbying for this or a leave of absence for sex change surgery.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 01:47 PM (O0lVq)

34
btw, of course her name is MEGHANN.

Not Megan. Not Megann. Meghann

Im surprised her stupid name isn't Meg-Hann.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 01:47 PM (T0BVJ)

35 I read the article, and in the end the author concedes that *she* was the one who worked the extra long hours, that it wasn't really the parents to blame (though I'm sure that does happen - people who can stay late pick up the slack of those who must leave the office by a certain time).

The bottom line is that this "me-ternity" idea is about fairness, which millenials seem to have internalized as a core value. Life is not fair. Singles may stay late during crunch time, others may work while their colleague is out sick with the flu at a really inconvenient time. heck, Jewish people take shifts over Christmas so that Christian colleagues can take time off, people who have family in town work holiday hours for colleagues who have to travel cross-country for Thanksgiving, and on and on.

Life is not fair. There is no giant ledger in HR that ensures that everyone's hours exactly match up on a regular basis. Grow up and get over it.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 01:47 PM (NOIQH)

36 Funny part is she thinks maternity leave is a vacation.

Tell ya whut. I'll wake you up every coupla hours for 2 months or so to shit in your bed during your "me time"

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (3ZtZW)

37 Ya know, now, I think guys can take ma/paternity too per U.S. law.

I think kids have to be involved somewhere in the mix.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (vz4z/)

38 *sniffs air*

*senses AtC incoming*

*burrows*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (1xUj/)

39 What do we want?!

MANternity leave!!!

When do we want it?!

NOW!!!

Posted by: men everywhere at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (H9MG5)

40 "Every asshole's dream: To be paid for doing nothing."

Also everyone else's dream.

However, getting paid to write an article arguing that one should, indeed, be paid for doing nothing...

That's pretty close.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (Fzaq0)

41 I really like this Sleepy, Grumpy Ace (he's like two Dwarves rolled into one!)

Posted by: Oedipus at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (CXLVd)

42 I think even Althouse called BS on this one.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (ptqRm)

43 BTW, at the place where I used to work maternity leave was NOT paid leave. It was the minimum required by federal law. The women's job was held open by the company and she got UNPAID leave.

No matter that at the end of that unpaid leave a lot of them elected to not come back at all.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (vvmPQ)

44
What's next is HE-Ternity Leave. Because it's not fair to men!!

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 01:49 PM (T0BVJ)

45 "I think kids have to be involved somewhere in the mix."

Damn kids. Meddling and such.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:49 PM (9ym/8)

46 Ya know, now, I think guys can take ma/paternity too per U.S. law.

===

Can. Decency dictates most take about 2 weeks, no matter how excited they might be.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 01:49 PM (3ZtZW)

47 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 01:43 PM (vvmPQ)
I'm just going to throw this out there. Most men are better employees because they don't bring their drama of the day to work. Women do, it's always something. Most women, not all of them, school trip, soccer game, fight with husband, etc.
If the men have personal problems I'm unaware of them.
Until they need a loan.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:49 PM (egOGm)

48 Joke's on her. Employers don't look at benefits in a discrete, independent manner. If she thinks everyone should get mandated vacation whenever they feel like, it's going to come from her compensation somewhere else. Either directly from the paycheck, or by the the other benefits her job offers (401k matching, general vacation/sick time, which health insurance she gets with her job, etc.)

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 29, 2016 01:49 PM (KUaJL)

49 You know what screws up a really good maternity leave? A baby. Wah wah I'm hungry. Wah wah I'm dirty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (Nwg0u)

50 I'm taking a master-bate-iccal.

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (mcm0N)

51 All this talk about children gets my leg-vag humming.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (FXW24)

52 ...I'm still waiting to enjoy all of my supposed benefits from my White privilege.

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (INxoa)

53 "*senses AtC incoming* "

Uh-oh.

*puts on flack jacket*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (9ym/8)

54 SMOD, where is thy sting?

Save us, SMOD, from the current insanity.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (QWtgr)

55 Mrs928 went back to work for two weeks after our first. I begged her to quit. Waking up 4 times a night to share the load was killing me.

I don't know how women do it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (rwI+c)

56 I think kids have to be involved somewhere in the mix."

Damn kids. Meddling and such.

"I coulda got the vacation if it weren't for you meddling kids!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (vz4z/)

57 Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 01:49 PM (3ZtZW)
I have one home now bonding with his baby for the 5th week. With his mother in law. Under 30. Whatever.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (egOGm)

58 >>>"Every asshole's dream: To be paid for doing nothing."

Also everyone else's dream.

...

quite right. I of all people (who desperately longs to not work, and yet be rich) should not say it's the dream of "assholes."

As you say, it's the asshole move to say you have some ideological claim on other people's money so that you can have money without working.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (dciA+)

59 I Want the Benefits of an Elephant Without Bothering to have a Trunk.

Posted by: Horton at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (e8kgV)

60 "which is, to me, a sabbatical-like break that allows women and, to a lesser degree, men to shift their focus to the part of their lives that doesn't revolve around their jobs."

Right. Because recovering from the serious physical trauma of childbirth while caring for the neediest thing on the planet, a newborn human baby, is totally like a sabbatical and shit.

Fucking idiot

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (Lz/sK)

61 Hmm. Gene pool won't work out.

What's Powerball up to these days?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (C9pBZ)

62 Well the next Muppets movie, Meghann can play the role of Beaker.

"me me me me me me me!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (ec/gS)

63 Its nothing but a pure conceited, narcissistic, self absorbed sloth cloaking those qualities in a cause.

-
But enough about babies.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (Nwg0u)

64 Based on the world wide best seller by Meghann Foye, coming soon to a theater near you...

From Here to Meternity

Posted by: movie preview guy at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (H9MG5)

65 What's next is HE-Ternity Leave. Because it's not fair to men!!

===

For gays. When they adopt little Chinese girls to shop dresses for.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 01:51 PM (3ZtZW)

66 If more women stayed home with their kids and raised
healthy families, the country would be better off, going by the number
of messed up kids I know. But that doesn't fly with the Church of Me.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 29, 2016 01:44 PM (FQKBL)
=============================================

Thank you ma'am for saying it so I don't have to.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (dFi94)

67
This is why women make less $$ than men. Because they're fucking goofy and they think of idiotic bullshit like this. Stupid women aren't as useful to the Work Force as men. It's science.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (T0BVJ)

68 Good comment on Insty yesterday about this was: This is why businesses are willing to pay a 21% guy premium for labor.

Posted by: Roy at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (VndSC)

69 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (vvmPQ)
In California they get disability. Even the husband gets it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (egOGm)

70 Every asshole's dream: To be paid for doing nothing."

-
Who you calling an asshole?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (Nwg0u)

71 Shit like this is why there is a wage gap. Men as a whole work harder, longer hours, and in more dangerous jobs than Women as a whole do.

Posted by: Zakn at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (d2pTe)

72 What's next is HE-Ternity Leave. Because it's not fair to men!!

Xe-ternity. Don't be sexist. /sarc

Posted by: Flyguy at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (3sOO0)

73 There used to be maternity leave years ago. We called it a "housewife". But the left successfully demeaned that term as being derogatory, because somehow it limited a woman's capabilities. You know, the stress, challenge and hard work of caring for your family...and keeping your sanity.

By the way, as a result divorce rate and teen pregnancy soared. You know, because that role was so unnecessary. Which led us to increasing abortion rates to ease the guilt of visible failure.

I think feminism really created a "genocide of the family". There is my inventive term for the day.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (O0lVq)

74

"Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

Posted by: Freddy Bastiat at April 29, 2016 01:53 PM (hTqVx)

75 tell you what though: I'm taking a mini-me-cation starting around 5:30!

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 01:53 PM (dciA+)

76 Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:50 PM (egOGm)

Rare thing.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 01:54 PM (3ZtZW)

77 man-ternity leave!!!!

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 01:54 PM (dciA+)

78 The one thing I do hate is when a woman takes maternity leave and the day she returns she gives her notice.
Their job was held open for them, and others picked up her slack when her employer could have already replaced her with someone who intended to work there.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 01:54 PM (NOIQH)

79 *stands up straight, tucks in shirt*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:54 PM (9ym/8)

80 It takes a village to clean up a spillage.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2016 01:54 PM (k4M/B)

81 "on th rag leave".

I think you meant "Riding the Cotton Pony" Leave.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 29, 2016 01:54 PM (QWtgr)

82 Sure, all new parents are just on vacation looking for some me time. Uh, no actually. Parenthood is pretty much the exact opposite of me time. You are putting your "me-time" on hold to meet the needs of the tiny human that is completely dependent upon you for its existence. That thing she is talking about is called vacation.

Posted by: no good deed at April 29, 2016 01:55 PM (GgxVX)

83 >>>Right. Because recovering from the serious physical trauma of childbirth while caring for the neediest thing on the planet, a newborn human baby, is totally like a sabbatical and shit.

Fucking idiot

...

pretty much the same thing as taking a late-20s extended three month hiking tour of Europe!

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 01:55 PM (dciA+)

84 Me-cation starts here in about a half hour.

Headache to start around seven tomorrow morning...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 29, 2016 01:55 PM (C9pBZ)

85 "From Here to Meternity"

George Peppard was excellent.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:55 PM (9ym/8)

86 So the left is agitating for paid FMLA. How long before they're agitating for paid sabbaticals?

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:55 PM (egOGm)

87 Every asshole's dream: To be paid for doing nothing."

-
Who you calling an asshole?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Me. As long as you are paying me.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 01:55 PM (vz4z/)

88 I Want the Benefits of Being President Without Bothering to be President.

Posted by: John Kasich at April 29, 2016 01:55 PM (e8kgV)

89 I blame romantic comedies.

They see the hard nosed working woman on the screen who breaks up with her BF/husband/fuck-buddy and wonders why can't I take three months off and travel to Italy? Why can't I discover who I am on the inside while restoring a house in Naples that I bought for next to nothing? Where's my cut pool-boy with a staph-free mouth who turns out to be the owner of a chain of hotels?

Posted by: jmt at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (I8vjj)

90 I got maternity leave when my first kid was born. It was called "Fired". Yeah, that's how old I am. I pre-date maternity leave.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (dFi94)

91 >>>George Peppard was excellent.

George Peppard was played by Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (dciA+)

92 78,
Preach it!

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (C9pBZ)

93 Meternity leave on Funemployment in Recovery Summer V11!
Yeah, baby!

Posted by: tu3031 at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (YFFpo)

94 Women must be equal to men, which means they must have every advantage over men.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (hLRSq)

95 You know who does get sabbaticals?

Tenured professors.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (gyKtp)

96 Me-ghann needs me-dication.

Posted by: Roy at April 29, 2016 01:56 PM (VndSC)

97 Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 01:54 PM (NOIQH)
The employer has to pay the insurance premiums. That's why they do that.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:57 PM (egOGm)

98 why shouldn't she and every guy also get paid time off?

this is just buying into the left's premise that people deserve paid maternity leave. why? what's wrong with equal treatment.

Posted by: x at April 29, 2016 01:57 PM (nFwvY)

99
George Patton was Hannibal on the A-Team, too.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 01:57 PM (T0BVJ)

100 "Yeah, that's how old I am. I pre-date maternity leave."

I'm actually doing FMLA right now. Company is being dickholes. I don't have a lawyer.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:57 PM (9ym/8)

101 In the lull before the storm I shall translate the opening passage of one of my favorite stories, Heinrich Boell's "Something will happen".

"By nature I am more inclined to contemplation and idleness than to work, however occasionally persisten financial difficulties -- because idleness reaps as little as contemplation -- force me to accept a so-called position".

He's a slacker during the economic miracle. Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2016 01:57 PM (1xUj/)

102 The strongest possible argument against the equality of the sexes are the stupid self-serving indulgent indolent things that come pouring out of feminists' mouths every damn day.

(apologies for tl;dr - short version I'm a huge heartless bitch)

Ding ding ding ding ding!

By nearly any measure, I should be considered a feminist. I check pretty much all the correct boxes. But hell to the no I have never and will never call myself a feminist because fuck that shit. To clarify, by fuck that shit I mean the notion that women are luminous beings of pure light who are so much better than those icky icky icky men.

You know what? That viewpoint is actually dehumanizing in an excessive degree. It posits that women do not partake of the full panoply of the human existence, include the bad parts.

Women are human beings. Some will be good. Some will be bad. Some will be noble. Some will be evil. Some will be kind. Some will be cruel. You know, because women are *people* and people have in them both a tiny bit of good and a huge helping of not so good and some have an even bigger helping of flat out evil. Denying that women can be so denies the essential humanness of women.

And that's not sexist at all. Nope nope nope nope nope. It doesn't become less sexist merely because women say it about other women.

I always have to tread lightly in this area because as someone without a child and as someone who has worked with several parents with small children, I have rather, hmmm, how to make myself seem less sociopathic, hmmm, intensely held opinions regarding that subset of women (and some men) who play the Mommy (or Daddy) Card.

There are those who seem to believe that because Mimsey has a game! a play! the sniffles! parent teacher conference! birthday party! whatthefuckever! that means that I, as the single, childless one, must needs do all of that person's work without also receiving that person's pay. No, no, I do not have to stay until 1 a.m. to get all the work done that you couldn't because hey must leave by 5 on the dot or the child care expenses are so high and just can't afford a sitter and yes, yes, that must be done by 8 a.m. due to non-negotiable deadline but sorry, My Precious Child.

Yeah. No. Mind you, I have a ton of respect for working parents and I don't comprehend how you do it and I don't mind picking up the slack because we all have stuff happen. I mind, intently, when a person (and 99.5% of the time it's a woman) believes she's entitled to others doing her work just Because Mommy.

That's the underlying tension to some of this. Childless workers (me) feel that some parents are taking advantage and then it turns into all parents are doing it and then it turns into why the hell do they get a "vacation" and I don't!

Which is, needless to say, ridic but there you have it. If someone (me) feels that she's being taken advantage of, then that someone (me) will be a huge bitch about it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (mf5HN)

103 OT: Secretary of Defense issues strong statement about Russian aircraft harassment of US ships and planes. Says they are "unprofessional" and should "knock it off".

-
I'm afraid of escalation. Putin may issue a statement saying, "Neener neener neener."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (Nwg0u)

104 Maybe of she wanted Permanent Stupidity Leave, promised to never come back and became the adopted child of self-sufficient Inuits who don't take and social welfare payments I would agree with her.

We really don't need more stupid, sloths in the workforce or welfare roles.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (O0lVq)

105 "Communists don't believe in work; they believe in elevating a
Revolutionary Vanguard which will Think Big Thoughts while the proles
work their benefit."

Be fair, those gulags don't run themselves, comrade!

Posted by: Uncle Joe at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (FohCt)

106 Communists don't believe in work; they believe in elevating a Revolutionary Vanguard which will Think Big Thoughts while the proles work their benefit. (Communism simply seeks to displace one overcaste for another -- the incoming overcaste being the communists. Go figure!)

Been reading my books, have you?

Posted by: C. S. Lewis at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (e8ge6)

107 The other thing this "me-ternity" is slamming is how our culture rewards families, which didn't just happen randomly.

There are tax breaks, maternity leave, and all sorts of other ways in which our society encourages families, because they are a building block of a stable society. It doesn't men that single and/or childless have less value, per se, just a way of encouraging a positive to society behavior. The Left has been at war with all of the ways in which stable families are encouraged, whether it's redefining marriage, abortion, or trying to destroy private institutions like churches.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (NOIQH)

108 WE WANT: to get $15 an hour while on our me-ternity leave.

Posted by: Libtard holding a Soros sign for 10 bucks. at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (VndSC)

109 I know some people just can't resist using any opportunity to chortle over what spoiled entitled twerps "millennials" are, but you might take a second to notice the woman in this article is 38 years old.

Posted by: Dan at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (cH4JC)

110
Meghann. Does she have a sister Sushann?

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (T0BVJ)

111 I like this theory. It has always been profoundly disturbing that women could get that maternity leave, but not men. Because after all, what about me?

With this new innovation, I can get more me-time. What's not to like? Bring it on!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (R+30W)

112 "George Peppard was played by Brian Dennehy. "

No, no, wrong movie. That was George Kennedy?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (9ym/8)

113 It's like when little kids want a pet and swear they will do everything needed to take care of it.

"OF COURSE, I'll do everything necessary for the job. Wait...what? Saturday until when? I'm meeting friends for brunch at 11. And how come Bob makes more than I do?"

Posted by: Michael at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (KClXw)

114 I have absolutely no problem with this philosophy as long as women who exercise their "Meternity" leave are paid less then those who don't, and ante-up more for their health care costs since pregnancy costs cause women's healthcare to be significantly higher.

Short version: You can't have equal pay if you don't do equal work. You can't have equal health care costs if you are a significantly higher risk. Life span is another reason women's health costs are higher as well.

So, full speed ahead.

Posted by: OrsonSnow at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (MgvfN)

115 I Want the Benefits of Being President Without Bothering to be President.

Sorry. It's already been done.

Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (YFFpo)

116 George Patton was Hannibal on the A-Team, too.

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Mr. T was an elephant.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (Nwg0u)

117 75 >> tell you what though: I'm taking a mini-me-cation starting around 5:30!

Slackers-R-Us doesn't open until 6?

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (gyKtp)

118
but you might take a second to notice the woman in this article is 38 years old.

Generation Y and the Millenials are pretty much the same. Two cohorts of Useless Ignoramuses.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (T0BVJ)

119 If you can avoid the broke-ass, layabout is just about perfect. Hard part is summoning the will to shower one a week so you can interact with people and not have them gagging.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (ocw+t)

120 I'm in my 32nd me-mester of college.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (mvenn)

121 Hmmm.

AtC on a righteous rant.

*checks calendar*
Yep, it's Friday.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (C9pBZ)

122 Please do not confuse Brian Dennehy with George Kennedy. Brian Dennehy should be confused with Brian Keith.

Posted by: Michael at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (KClXw)

123 Childless workers (me) feel that some parents are taking advantage and then it turns into all parents are doing it and then it turns into why the hell do they get a "vacation" and I don't!

====

But....you get a social life.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (3ZtZW)

124 *shoves some lemon bars through USB port to AlextheChick*

Its the Entitlement Mentality some exude that turns the rest of us in Grendel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (ec/gS)

125
Wal-Mart's stock on track for biggest one-day drop since Oct. 14

1:48p
Wal-Mart's stock drops 3.6% to pace Dow decliners

Raising the Minimum Wage will boost the economy, said somebody.

Posted by: Freddy Bastiat at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (hTqVx)

126 Well in fairness, she wasn't the first with this idea. We do have a Me-Presidency.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (O0lVq)

127 I Want the Benefits of 3% GDP Growth Without Bothering to Work.

Posted by: President Barack "Unexpectedly" Obama at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (e8kgV)

128 103 OT: Secretary of Defense issues strong statement about Russian aircraft harassment of US ships and planes. Says they are "unprofessional" and should "knock it off".

*******

"Knock it off" is actually very interesting--specific language there.

The Russkies seem to be actually testing the stability of our spy planes. They are supposedly performing certain maneuvers over and around our planes.

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (mcm0N)

129 If I work at Target, and self-identify as a pregnant woman, I get maternity leave?

Posted by: USA at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (tfM+W)

130 That's the underlying tension to some of this. Childless workers (me) feel that some parents are taking advantage and then it turns into all parents are doing it and then it turns into why the hell do they get a "vacation" and I don't!

Preach it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (vz4z/)

131 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (GwIKd)

132 Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (mf5HN)
Preach it sister, that right there is some bullshitt. Everyone has responsibilities.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (egOGm)

133 Is me-ternity going to become the latest me-meme?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (mvenn)

134 'Many men don't want to work, either. But we call them "bums."'

I thought we called them, "bloggers."

Posted by: gm at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (4ueYo)

135 A woman needs men because the palanquin of Cleopatra, Queen of the Nile isn't going to tote itself you know! Step to it lads!

And refill the bob-bon box while you're at it.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (hLRSq)

136 Ace finally gets to hunt a she-hobo

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (+nMnH)

137
Oh look at me, I'm barren. My womb is dead. What about my vacation? I want my maternity leave too!

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (T0BVJ)

138 Part of me wants to work. Another part of me reminds me that by working I'm just tax cattle, sheep for shearing.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (0mRoj)

139 >>>Meghann. Does she have a sister Sushann?

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 01:59 PM (T0BVJ)<<<

And another sister Joannn.

Posted by: Meghann and Sushann at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (H9MG5)

140 *bon-bon box*

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (hLRSq)

141 I Want the Benefits of Free College Without Bothering to Tax.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at April 29, 2016 02:02 PM (e8kgV)

142 I saw this article yesterday and just 'assumed" it was satire? Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (Ozsfq)

143 " Brian Dennehy should be confused with Brian Keith."

Very close. The character Keith played in "Nevada Smith" is an all time classic.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (9ym/8)

144 47 Most women, not all of them, school trip, soccer game, fight with husband, etc.

If the men have personal problems I'm unaware of them.

Until they need a loan.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:49 PM (egOGm)

Oh how I know it. I used to be the crying board for all those women upset about one thing or another (and it was usually other female employees).

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (vvmPQ)

145 Trigglypuff won't ever get real maternity leave. Count on it.

Posted by: Roy at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (VndSC)

146 129
If I work at Target, and self-identify as a pregnant woman, I get maternity leave?

Posted by: USA at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (tfM+W)

... of course ...

Posted by: Brian C. Cornell at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (e8kgV)

147
you mean Johann?

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (T0BVJ)

148 "If I work at Target, and self-identify as a pregnant woman, I get maternity leave?"

*Starts demo to add another bathroom*

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (hTqVx)

149 If I work at Target, and self-identify as a pregnant woman, I get maternity leave?

Nope. But feel free to use any bathroom you desire.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 29, 2016 02:04 PM (YFFpo)

150 That's the underlying tension to some of this. Childless workers (me) feel that some parents are taking advantage and then it turns into all parents are doing it and then it turns into why the hell do they get a "vacation" and I don't!

Also goes to those that run off every time jr gets sick, and then they stay home with the infection vector.

In 26 years, 11 months, and 16 days with my current company, I've called in sick twice. TWICE.

And both times were from bad chicken.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:04 PM (vz4z/)

151 but you might take a second to notice the woman in this article is 38 years old.

===

Her biological clock is a calendar marking days to VACATION

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:04 PM (3ZtZW)

152 "To a lesser degree, men" -- because while women are luminous creatures full of creative energies for things besides their jobs, men are expected to be workbrute labordrudges who show up every day to punch the clock while their female co-"workers" (quotes heavily sarcastic) are galavanting around on some much-unearned me-time.

She is probably referring to the FMLA laws.

In California:
Leave for both Parents
-Each parent is eligible for up to 12 weeks of CFRA family leave for the birth, adoption or foster care of a child.
-If parents work for the same employer, they must share leave.

http://tinyurl.com/glxtzct

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 29, 2016 02:04 PM (R+30W)

153 91 ... Terrible case of bad casting.

Brian Dennehy would have been much, much better playing the part of Eternity.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 29, 2016 02:04 PM (8v0G6)

154 "Trigglypuff won't ever get real maternity leave. Count on it."

Don't rule out Airman Schmuckatelli.

(Joke from an earlier thread)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 29, 2016 02:04 PM (ptqRm)

155 In 26 years, 11 months, and 16 days with my current company, I've called in sick twice. TWICE.

And both times were from bad chicken.
Posted by: rickb223
-----------------

not my fault.

Posted by: The Chicken at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (VndSC)

156 You know, I'm awaiting some Fur-kin bringing complaint against Target for not having a Fur-kin compliant bathroom in their stores.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (ec/gS)

157 "And some people are simply too lazy or feel too entitled to work." - we call those people who read blogs on company time.

Posted by: Mark in Portland at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (QJBko)

158 Since the congress is hung ho on opening up combat rules for women, how about requiring them to register for the selective service like the guys at age 18? I guess "fairness " only goes one way.

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (G+Wff)

159 "Knock it off" is actually very interesting--specific language there.

The Russkies seem to be actually testing the stability of our spy planes. They are supposedly performing certain maneuvers over and around our planes.
Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (mcm0N)

*knocks wing off American spy plane*

Posted by: Soviet Jet at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (uURQL)

160 Do you realize how much work it is for me to get the tub of Ben and Jerrys out of the freezer, ha8ers? I have to get up off the sofa and it's hard to keep from stepping on the cats when you can't see your own feet.

Posted by: Obese Feminists Everywhere at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (u0lmX)

161 As I understand it, most places don't have "maternity" leave - they have Family Medical Leave.
Which anyone can use if they need to take time off to recover from something, or care for a relative, etc.

Posted by: @votermom at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (nbrY/)

162 >>
That's the underlying tension to some of this. Childless workers (me)
feel that some parents are taking advantage and then it turns into all
parents are doing it and then it turns into why the hell do they get a
"vacation" and I don't!
<<

In most companies maternity leave is not fully paid and relies on some type of disability insurance to actually make payments. If you can meet the terms of that deal, that is disability, you can do the same.

We also have unpaid leaves equal to the maternity period. Any employee is welcome to take them. But they are unpaid.

Many people also use their vacation time as part of that maternity leave. Others are happy to come back quicker.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (O0lVq)

163 I just read a Paul Krugman column and now I have cancer.

Does this mean I won't have to work anymore? Do y'all want to contribute to my kickstarter page?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 29, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

164 69
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 01:48 PM (vvmPQ)

In California they get disability. Even the husband gets it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 01:52 PM (egOGm)

Like I said in the last thread, CA is Detroit writ large.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 02:06 PM (vvmPQ)

165 >>>That's the underlying tension to some of this. Childless workers (me) feel that some parents are taking advantage and then it turns into all parents are doing it and then it turns into why the hell do they get a "vacation" and I don't!

well i get that. that's a good point.

but, while some parents are abusing the system (as all people will abuse all systems), a lot of parent-work is kind of not terribly fun. Seeing Mimsy's stupid play isn't really fun. It's an obligation.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 02:06 PM (dciA+)

166 "The character Keith played in "Nevada Smith" is an all time classic."

Anyone else?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:06 PM (9ym/8)

167 "And some people are simply too lazy or feel too entitled to work." - we call those people who read blogs on company time.
Posted by: Mark in Portland at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (QJBko)

Hmmmm...

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 29, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

168 Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, - pay me a 7 figure salary.

Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (UzPAd)

169
Now if you want to know who's really getting ripped off by thousands of $$ a year it's Single People.

You work in an office or for a union, a single person pays the exact same for health insurance as the married w/kids employee on the company plan.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (T0BVJ)

170 >>>You know, I'm awaiting some Fur-kin bringing
complaint against Target for not having a Fur-kin compliant bathroom in
their stores.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (ec/gS)<<<

Litter boxes?!

Posted by: some cat-girl at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (H9MG5)

171 I used to work 14 hour days and then got to school for 3 hours. With 3 kids. Fucking awful. But, hey, at least when I was done with school, I got to work 18-20 hour days. With 6 kids. Now I work 5-10 hours a week. Because work fucking sucks, and that's all I need to work to pay the bills.

Posted by: gm at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (4ueYo)

172 And some people are simply too lazy or feel too entitled to work." - we call those people who read blogs on company time.

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime.
That's why I shit on company time.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (vz4z/)

173 "Bum" is such a harsh word.

I prefer to be called a "struggling performance artist".

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (gyKtp)

174 The trick is to convince feminists that government benefits are an oppressive tool of the patriarchy to dominate and enslave them.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (39g3+)

175 Since the congress is hung ho on opening up combat rules for women, how about requiring them to register for the selective service like the guys at age 18? I guess "fairness " only goes one way.

Posted by: Cheri at April 29, 2016 02:05 PM (G+Wff)

I believe that requirement is in a bill in Congress right now.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (hLRSq)

176 And both times were from bad chicken.

I'm not familiar with that brand of bourbon. Do you recommend it?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (1xUj/)

177 I think everyone should get 52 weeks paid vacation a year. Anything else is sexist, racist, transgenderist, white supremacy.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (0LHZx)

178 169
Now if you want to know who's really getting ripped off by thousands of $$ a year it's Single People.

You work in an office or for a union, a single person pays the exact same for health insurance as the married w/kids employee on the company plan.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (T0BVJ)

What? I've never been in a workplace where the employee contribution to health insurance premium wasn't a pittance compared to the amount for family coverage.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (0mRoj)

179 a lot of parent-work is kind of not terribly fun. Seeing Mimsy's stupid play isn't really fun. It's an obligation.

====

Ace hates the kids! He just patronizes em!

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (3ZtZW)

180 Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (NOIQH)
I agree with you lizzy on the benefits of families, where I stop is the FMLA. It should be up to the employer. As an example,
One of our employees was fired, then got sick. My husband kept paying him for 6 weeks till he recovered and got another job. Paid his cobra too. Most employers are good people and are reasonable.
But we shouldn't have to pay men for 3 months paternity leave if they are a key employee. This is where we are headed.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 02:08 PM (egOGm)

181 I Want the Benefits of Martyrdom Without Bothering to Die.

Posted by: Salah Abdeslam at April 29, 2016 02:09 PM (e8kgV)

182 I preemptively denounce myself:

Can't work [x]

Bad drivers [x]

LIV voters [x]

What do we keep women around for again? Oh yeah. Nevuhmind.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 29, 2016 02:09 PM (+aCe4)

183 In a former job I had two partners, one male, one female. Part of our job included one trip a month by plane (about an hour each way in a twin engine private plane). We shared the trips equally among the three of us. One day, unilaterally, the female partner announced that she would no longer fly and the two of us could pick up her flight days, because she "had a family."

This was remarkable news to me and my wife (and our kids).

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:09 PM (mvenn)

184 Which one of you morons needs a "slump buster" to help you "feel better" and get 6 weeks off from work?

Yea, I thought so... I wouldn't his that SJW with the AoS patented BARBED COCK OF SATAN

Posted by: Pimp Daddy Welfare at April 29, 2016 02:09 PM (v9eSj)

185 You know, I'm awaiting some Fur-kin bringing
complaint against Target for not having a Fur-kin compliant bathroom in
their stores.

The furry population has to be about the same size as the tranny population. Especially if you include camwhores that wear cat ears.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2016 02:09 PM (39g3+)

186
What? I've never been in a workplace where the employee contribution to health insurance premium wasn't a pittance compared to the amount for family coverage.

It is with the large union plans.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:09 PM (T0BVJ)

187 You work in an office or for a union, a single person pays the exact same for health insurance as the married w/kids employee on the company plan.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (T0BVJ)

No, that's not typical. Usually there is a lower rate if you are an individual vs if you have dependents.

Posted by: @votermom at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (nbrY/)

188 169 -- Preach it, brother.

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (INxoa)

189 >>And some people are simply too lazy or feel too entitled to work." - we call those people who read blogs on company time.<<

You may also call those people who work mostly 12 hour days without leaving their desk, looking for a few minutes of down time because the only reason they leave their desk is to use the restroom. They even have lunch brought in so they don't sneak away.

But that's just me.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (O0lVq)

190 This is why corporate marketing teams are always over staffed. Because half of them are always out having babies.

Posted by: xpo172 at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (1PDwB)

191 You work in an office or for a union, a single person pays the exact same for health insurance as the married w/kids employee on the company plan.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (T0BVJ)

______
I can't speak for unions but for corps that is most certainly not the case. At least at no corp I've ever worked for.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (0LHZx)

192 lot of parent-work is kind of not terribly fun. Seeing Mimsy's stupid play isn't really fun. It's an obligation.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 02:06 PM (dciA+)
======================================

Ballet recital. Awana awards night. Talent show at the elementary school. Band concerts, for 4th graders.

And then you have grandkids and get to do it all over again.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (dFi94)

193 Abu Hajeer - "I wish I had thought of taking me leave. So where's the rocket for people again?"

Litter boxes? Cat-kin can take care of themselves. Now those who are dogs, aaaiieeeee...

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (nbhcX)

194 "Can't work [x]

Bad drivers [x]

LIV voters [x]

What do we keep women around for again? Oh yeah. Nevuhmind."

Well, you do stuff with 'em. Like, private stuff.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (9ym/8)

195 176 And both times were from bad chicken.

I'm not familiar with that brand of bourbon. Do you recommend it?

It's slightly better than bad fish.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (vz4z/)

196 102----Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 29, 2016 01:58 PM (mf5HN)
--------------------
I love this comment.

One of the reasons I quit my full-time job --- other than wanting to raise my kids myself --- is that I didn't want to be That Woman. Y'no, the one who always counted on me, when I was childless, to pick up the slack when little Susie had an ear-ache.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (T/5A0)

197 158 >> Since the congress is hung ho on opening up combat rules for women, how
about requiring them to register for the selective service like the guys
at age 18? I guess "fairness " only goes one way.

There's a bill in the House right now that proposes exactly this, Cheri.

I wonder if it will make to the floor for a vote.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (gyKtp)

198 I Want the Benefits of Voting Without Bothering to Get an ID.

... now hold on thar babalou

Texas' controversial voter identification law will remain in effect,
possibly through November's elections, after the Supreme Court on Friday denied
an emergency request from a coalition of Latino advocacy groups and
Democratic lawmakers who say the measure is discriminatory.

*I'll* do the "thin'in'" around here! -And *don't* you for-git *it*!

Posted by: Quick Draw McGraw at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (e8kgV)

199 RE: health care, club memberships, taxes, etc...singles pay proportionately more than familes / couples.

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (INxoa)

200 Agreed, but I'm in my forties right now and the idea of slaving away my whole life and then just turning into worm food at the end sounds kind of sad.
Posted by: Max Power at April 29, 2016 01:40 PM (QCc6B)

----------------

That is sad. Perhaps you should turn your focus to things other than just you.

Posted by: Soona at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (Fmupd)

201
Wal-Mart's stock drops 3.6% to pace Dow decliners

Raising the Minimum Wage will boost the economy, said somebody.

Posted by: Freddy Bastiat at April 29, 2016 02:01 PM (hTqVx)
-----------------------"The economy" isn't filthy-rich one percenter solid gold Cadillac owners who can afford to (gasp) buy stock.

Posted by: iforgot at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (qTF1r)

202 Here's the thing. When men are stupid and crazy, they tend to be self destructive. The "hold my beer and watch this!" types.

Where men are damaging to others in their insanity, its limited to individual targets, like a serial killer.

When women go crazy and stupid, they demolish all of society. They ruin souls and hope.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (39g3+)

203 186
What? I've never been in a workplace where the employee contribution to health insurance premium wasn't a pittance compared to the amount for family coverage.

It is with the large union plans.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:09 PM (T0BVJ)

Still not following. I've never worked anywhere that didnt have significantly cheaper premiums for single employee vs. family coverage. None of these places were union shops (thank God).

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (0mRoj)

204 You work in an office or for a union, a single person pays the exact same for health insurance as the married w/kids employee on the company plan.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:07 PM (T0BVJ)

I'm fairly certain that's not true for my place of employment.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 29, 2016 02:12 PM (KUaJL)

205 Can't wait to go out on my own. Just to get away from all this bullshit.

Soon. Soon ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 29, 2016 02:12 PM (8v0G6)

206 >>It's slightly better than bad fish.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:10 PM (vz4z/)
<<

And both are so bad you contemplate calling someone over to shoot you.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 02:12 PM (O0lVq)

207
Then it's just true for union health care plans.

But Singles get screwed a lot.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (T0BVJ)

208 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 29, 2016 02:03 PM (vvmPQ)
This is why I don't talk to the girls in the office, my eyes glaze over. I just say good morning and shut the door to my office.
The men never complain.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (egOGm)

209 199 RE: health care, club memberships, taxes, etc...singles pay proportionately more than familes / couples.
Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:11 PM (INxoa)

_______

I take it the concept of group/bulk discounts is new to you?

Ever notice how if you buy 1 donut it's $1 but if you buy a dozen is $8.99? Figure out this puzzle and you'll figure out why a family gym membership is cheaper than a single one.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (0LHZx)

210 We want the benefits of being a citizen without having to wait in line or actually become a citizen.

Oh, we already got that. Nevermind.

Posted by: illegal aliens at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (H9MG5)

211 A commenter points out, rightly, that this is everyone else's dream too.

Not mine. Somethin' from nothin' leaves nothin'.

Posted by: Willy Preston at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (Dwehj)

212 Oh man. I loved Brian Keith in The Courtship of Eddie's Father.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (mvenn)

213 CT you've been listening to Louis CK, haven't you?

If not, this is what you were saying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTrCBcrFMCI

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (xuouz)

214 But Singles get screwed a lot.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (T0BVJ)

yeah but then they get married and have kids and all that ends...that's what you mean right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (Ozsfq)

215 O/T: Infiltrators have managed to get into the Hyatt and hang a 4-story "Stop Hate" banner inside the atrium window. Ha! So much for security!

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (43OZ6)

216 >>But Singles get screwed a lot.<<

There's a cure for that. It's called marriage.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (O0lVq)

217 "Can't wait to go out on my own. Just to get away from all this bullshit.

Soon.

I'm a venture capitalist too. What's your venture, Scogg.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (9ym/8)

218 But Singles get screwed a lot.

===

Its what a social life is for.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (3ZtZW)

219 men are expected to be workbrute labordrudges

Men-yins.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (8ZHTC)

220 207

Then it's just true for union health care plans.

But Singles get screwed a lot.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (T0BVJ)

...yes...and I've 57 years of proof.

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (INxoa)

221 Agreed, but I'm in my forties right now and the idea of slaving away my whole life and then just turning into worm food at the end sounds kind of sad.

Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow you may die, vs "there's something more to life than just here and now"

Pick one.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (39g3+)

222 Meg-Hann's money quote: "I didn't change diapers, but I struggled with self doubt."
Ummm...could one of the Womyns studies majors around here 'splain this to me?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 29, 2016 02:14 PM (SeD0w)

223 But Singles get screwed a lot.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (T0BVJ)

yeah but then they get married and

Never get screwed again! Right guys?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (vz4z/)

224 >I prefer to be called a "struggling performance artist"<

I'm still giggling about "chair motion artist" from an earlier thread. Grumpy, tired Ace is funny Ace.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (ByLlW)

225 I dont blame her. I got stuck with the work when they were on maternity leave. I got stuck with the work before they went on maternity leave but were too tired to do anything. I got stuck with the work when they had to join and be president of the PTA and couldnt do their job.

Did I get paid extra or any recognition? Nope.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (iQIUe)

226 I'm not sure how seriously she intends the idea of "me-ternity." I think maybe she does mean it a little.

It makes just as much sense as the insane gay pretend marriage cases that hinged on "equal protection" for job benefits that went to actual married employees. If one takes the "equal protection" crap seriously for homos then one is inevitably led to the idea that single workers are also entitled to the same level of benefits that others receive for all sorts of things - single workers deserve the health insurance benefits to put some other (and some kids) on their work insurance, single women deserve the same benefits as maternity leave and even single men deserve that same level of maternity leave benefit (for as much as any woman has gotten it).

It's all insane, obviously, but that's why the gay pretend marriage "equal protection" argument was unadulterated, retarded bullshit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (zc3Db)

227 Christopher Taylor, the camwhores are just narcissist with cat-ears. Their only value is derived from external praise.

Fur-kin are mentally unstable beasts of a different type. Instead of Emo or Goth, Fur-kin. So I think when I see one in public, "oh how cute another person with parental issues rebelling'

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (nbhcX)

228 But....you get a social life.
Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:00 PM (3ZtZW)

At the Old Firm, I actually had the one woman who was the biggest thrower of the Mommy Card say that to me. I pointed out that was not quite true considering that I spent 50-60 hours a week on my job and then ended up working 20-30 hours a week many times doing her job Because Her Precious Children.

Again, let me try to redeem myself a bit. I have no problem helping out and I so get that people with kids do need to leave on time to pick up from day care because holy hell child care overtime is insanely expensive. That's fine. It's the attitude of oh you're single, you can do it and you have to do it that pisses me off.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (mf5HN)

229 But Singles get screwed a lot.

---

Can confirm. I'm not married yet, and I get screwed plenty.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (KUaJL)

230 There's a slogan here somewhere:

WYMYN:

I have a vagina. Give me free stuff!/i]*

*this part to be sung like a Mennan Aftershave commercial

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (0cMkb)

231 223 But Singles get screwed a lot.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (T0BVJ)

yeah but then they get married and

Never get screwed again! Right guys?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (vz4z/)

Metaphorically speaking we get screwed aplenty. Then they divorce us and screw us some more.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (0mRoj)

232 OT: Project Veritas is stirring up trouble again. Good thing we all know their "undercover videos" are all fake fake fakety fake fake. Like the allegations against Hillary.

http://tinyurl.com/zz5wby8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 02:16 PM (Nwg0u)

233
btw, former Montana senator who lost to that idiot Jon Tester, Conrad Burns, died yesterday.

Conrad Burns is survived by his adopted sons Willis and Arnold Jackson.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:16 PM (T0BVJ)

234 I Want the Benefits of Title IX Without Bothering to Have a Designated Sex.

Posted by: "Androgynous" Pat at April 29, 2016 02:16 PM (e8kgV)

235

Barrel avoided!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2016 02:16 PM (0cMkb)

236 the singles are trying to free ride on the parents free ride.

Posted by: x at April 29, 2016 02:16 PM (nFwvY)

237 Hey with a democrat in the White House we can all get screwed plenty so no worries

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (Ozsfq)

238 I take it the concept of group/bulk discounts is new to you?

Ever notice how if you buy 1 donut it's $1 but if you buy a dozen is
$8.99? Figure out this puzzle and you'll figure out why a family gym
membership is cheaper than a single one.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 29, 2016 02:13 PM (0LHZx)

No...not lost on me at all. But perhaps the concept of a family of 6 putting more strain on a health club's bottom line is greater than my single membership. Or is that lost on you?

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (INxoa)

239 When women go crazy and stupid, they demolish all of society. They ruin souls and hope.

Yes, but they smell nice and have soft places and sometimes do nice things to your junk.

Eternal balancing act.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (1xUj/)

240

there is already ME -TERNITY

its called FUNEMPLOYMENT

Posted by: ThunderB at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (zOTsN)

241 Well, you do stuff with 'em. Like, private stuff.-------Ricardo Kill

Until you marry them.
Well that's what I heard!

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (m3iiU)

242 Then it's just true for union health care plans.

===

If you're complaining about your own circumstances, might it be because of what tier you're on? A lot of singles tend to be on a lower tier where the deals just aren't as good. The unions use that as leverage, so the newer workers get representation but not half as a many of the goodies.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (3ZtZW)

243 CT you've been listening to Louis CK, haven't you?

Hadn't heard that bit, but its good. Its one of those concepts I've been building on but never written a blog post about because it seems excessively misogynistic. But true.

Bill Burr's "epidemic of gold diggin' whores" is more on the same topic.

https://youtu.be/x0gaYyNk7QA

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (39g3+)

244 199 >> RE: health care, club memberships, taxes, etc...singles pay proportionately more than familes / couples.

In the 80s, there was a marriage penalty income tax; I know, because we had to pay about $3k more per year than if we were divorced. Because the 2 incomes kicked us into a higher tax bracket.

I don't know if that is no longer the case.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (gyKtp)

245 Pregnancy is a social-construct.

Posted by: USA at April 29, 2016 02:18 PM (tfM+W)

246
Conrad Burns is survived by his adopted sons Willis and Arnold Jackson.
>>>>>>

Smithers must be heartbroken.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 29, 2016 02:18 PM (8ZHTC)

247 >>But we shouldn't have to pay men for 3 months paternity leave if they are a key employee. This is where we are headed.

Agreed, it should be up to the employer. The FMLA was a Democrat thing, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 02:18 PM (NOIQH)

248
I tried to watch High Rise last night. Awful. No real story. Cant believe how they churn out this bullshit. I look at the old movies they use to churn out and even the not so great ones at least had plots.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 29, 2016 02:18 PM (iQIUe)

249 FFs WM's stock didn't drop 3.5% because of the minimum wage. WM had already raised it's starting rate to $10 because they couldn't find anyone to hire at less than $10. And besides min wage changes are already priced in, shares don't drop 3.5% 2 weeks after the news is announced.

WM is doing poorly because it can't grow anymore. When there's a store on every corner in America, growth is hard to come by. They were hoping China would be the answer, but it's been a lot harder than the company thought.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 29, 2016 02:18 PM (0LHZx)

250 *looks at time*

Oh joy, time to scoot.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (nbhcX)

251 Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (iQIUe)
I would hope your boss noticed. I notice that stuff, who runs out the door at 4:55. Every boss should.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (egOGm)

252
A lot of singles tend to be on a lower tier where the deals just aren't as good.

That's not the case with me. Each member has the same amount deducted from their pay.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (T0BVJ)

253 Where do they get so much money to throw away in Hwd? I have to believe that it is nothing but a money laundering scheme.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (iQIUe)

254
Then it's just true for union health care plans.
But Singles get screwed a lot.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke

Had a union job for 25 years and always paid less than the guys with family coverage.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (k4M/B)

255

ME-TERNITY is what happens when you have too much time to spend thinking about yourself

Posted by: ThunderB at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (zOTsN)

256 >> pretty much the same thing as taking a late-20s extended three month hiking tour of Europe!

Another thing in the article that shows me this moron doesn't understand a fucking thing, the bit about how when new mom's came back, they seemed to be refreshed and refocused on life.

How bout they came back having experienced something rare and good, that there are larger more important things in life than your job? Jobs are necessary, life, particularly life you brought into this world, well.

They come back with perspective.

Something this moron will never comprehend.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (Lz/sK)

257 I would like to point out that as a "man", even though I had a family with young kids, I was expected to cover for mothers who "had" to leave because "they" had to pick up their kids.

Posted by: Lurker Primus at April 29, 2016 02:20 PM (tHP3B)

258 "Well, you do stuff with 'em. Like, private stuff.-------Ricardo Kill

Until you marry them. "

Wait a minute, hold the show.

Are saying women don't do "things" once they're married that they did before?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:20 PM (9ym/8)

259 Healthcare Approval Poll (Pew):

Yippee! 44%

WTF? 54%

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2016 02:20 PM (hTqVx)

260 That's not the case with me. Each member has the same amount deducted from their pay.

==

LOL not what I said.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:20 PM (3ZtZW)

261 "But Singles get screwed a lot."
----------
Eh. Maybe. Depends on the demographic.
There are a lot of benefits for single mothers that fly out the window if you get married.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 29, 2016 02:20 PM (T/5A0)

262 *sputtersplatter*

dammit MUMR

Posted by: Mortimer at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (8ZHTC)

263
WYMYN:

I aborted my child. But, I still want maternity leave!*

*this part to be sung like a Mennan Aftershave commercial

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (0cMkb)

264 So, let me get in this brief rant.

As a woman who chose to leave the workforce to have our kid, I was faced with this shit from working women:

"You don't work, right? Would you mind picking my son up from school and keeping him this afternoon until I get off work? Our nanny is off today."

"You don't work, right? I can't help at the school fair next week, but I've got some cookies that need delivering. Will you come by the house and pick them up? Oh, and I'll need the plate back after. Thanks bye!"

"You don't work, right? Can I drop Jimmy off at your place tomorrow morning? Our nanny is off and he could use some play time with your son."

The above are actual Things.Said.By.Entitled.Me-moms

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (FsuaD)

265 217 ... I do Automation and Control for industry and utilities. There's been a market for a long time for experienced guys to do 3-6 mos start-ups as well as smaller 1-4 wk jobs.

I've been getting requests for a while to jump in, but held back to be with the kids. Youngest getting ready to turn 12.

I'm going to give it a whirl soon. Looks like 1200 - 1500 hrs/yr is all I need after expenses. I've contracted before - I'll do it as an LLC.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (8v0G6)

266 Wait a minute, hold the show.

Are saying women don't do "things" once they're married that they did before?

Um, I hate to break it to you, but ........

Posted by: rickb223 at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (vz4z/)

267 I never missed many of my son's activities and I never had anyone fill in for me. If I knew I had a ton of stuff to do I got started at 6:00 a.m. or earlier, went to the lacrosse game, etc. and ate dinner and was back working at my home office again by 8:00 p.m. until my work was done. Lots of 20 hour days. I get paid to work.

Posted by: nckate at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (/ygaY)

268 Are saying women don't do "things" once they're married that they did before?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:20 PM (9ym/

Sure they tell you fuck off a lot more

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (Ozsfq)

269
LOL not what I said.

LOL we all pay the same and we all have the same plan. All 5000 members.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (T0BVJ)

270 I don't mind society and law structured to encourage and benefit marriage. That's good for us all, single or not.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (39g3+)

271 >> It's the attitude of oh you're single, you can do it and you have to do it that pisses me off.

Definitely. A lot of working parents do feel bad when they have to leave when they should be working overtime, and I have come back to office with the kid (and toys and pizza to keep him busy) and/or worked weekends to make up the time.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (NOIQH)

272 You know, I can see both sides as I have worked in offices before I had my child and afterward.
Women will abuse it both ways. I was a little upset when I was much younger having to stay in the office for hours and hours when some of my colleagues were bolting before 5:00 pm to make their MetroNorth trains back to the suburbs for their kids.
Then, when I started working at a firm after my daughter was 6 yrs old, I did my absolute best to not be like that. I stayed ridiculously long hours at work because that was what was expected of me. But truthfully, it became almost impossible for me to do both -- especially because I'm caring for her ny myself. And toward the end, I did get bitter over the fact that no one - not even my bitch female boss who had 2 kids of her own - gave a shit that realistically, I could not put in 12 hour days and then some because I had no other caregiver help. I never asked for time off. I just didn't go to my daughter's assemblies. Simple as that. If I wanted to keep getting paid and get a raise, I had to choose my reasons for leaving early wisely. And it really sucked.

Posted by: Sassy at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (q7eWh)

273 Man-ternity

Posted by: MikeD at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (T1WKV)

274 Ugh Jane that's awful. Here's hoping you said no and stood your ground

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (xuouz)

275 "Um, I hate to break it to you, but ........"

I'm not married. That reason may not be one one of them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (9ym/8)

276 No...not lost on me at all. But perhaps the concept of a family of 6 putting more strain on a health club's bottom line is greater than my single membership. Or is that lost on you?
Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (INxoa)

Actually, not the full 6x the amount. The kids will on average have less health issues than middle-age people. And that's not counting the administrative benefits of only having one guarantor and address to send statements to.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

277 There's a reason government jobs are filled disproportionately by women and Democrats - as Ace notes, they need a job (empowerment!), but really don't want to work. Solution? Government jobs!

Posted by: Ted K. at April 29, 2016 02:23 PM (RI558)

278 2
I Want the Benefits of Long Term Disability Leave Without Bothering to be Disabled.
---

That's totally do-able in Obamaland. Just claim "back problems," apply for SSI, get denied, call a layer, reapply for SSI and voila! You're on SSI and you're completely healthy.

Also... "bipolar" works just as well as "back problems."

For the gold, combine "back problems" and "bipolar."

/I know someone who claims both and has been on SSI for a decade or so. He's a lazy man child who just wants to play xbox and masturbate all day. Yes, he lives in his parents basement.

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 29, 2016 02:23 PM (AHDxb)

279 It's the attitude of oh you're single, you can do it and you have to do it that pisses me off.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 29, 2016 02:15 PM (mf5HN)

Expressing a little gratitude and returning the favor goes a long way to keeping the peace in the workplace.

Like the secretary who handles my work (along with the work of others). She gets flowers every couple of months for keeping me out of trouble. Because I appreciate it and am not a self-centered oaf.

I am a goofy lout with a kind heart.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at April 29, 2016 02:23 PM (hLRSq)

280 You know lazy assholes are only paid 42 cents of every dollar MEN get paid!

Posted by: Without insight or irony at April 29, 2016 02:23 PM (k8tEg)

281 LOL we all pay the same and we all have the same plan. All 5000 members.

===

Excellent. I'm talking about tiers within the union though. Each union would probably do its own collective bargaining and, if they have tiers, they can argue tier 1 gets everything, tier IV nothing, and gradations in between for the rest.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:23 PM (3ZtZW)

282 274
Ugh Jane that's awful. Here's hoping you said no and stood your ground

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (xuouz)

Sadly, I was a lot nicer then and almost never said no. Nowadays, I'll cut a bitch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 29, 2016 02:23 PM (FsuaD)

283 I think this whole movement is gaining mementum.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (mvenn)

284 Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 29, 2016 02:21 PM (FsuaD)

Of course, the question is:

Did you smile sweetly and say "Yes"?

or

Did you smile sweetly and say "Go fuck yourself you lazy piece of crap"?

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (0cMkb)

285 They come back with perspective.

Something this moron will never comprehend.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at April 29, 2016 02:19 PM (Lz/sK)
=============================================

I'll tell you what else they come back with. A sense of relief. It's crazy hard taking care of a newborn baby. It's much easier to get up and go to work. Much. Stay-at-home moms are the hardest working people I know. For no pay. While working day and night with someone who doesn't understand a word you say, so you end up making goo goo noises till you sound deranged. While you clean yellow poo.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (dFi94)

286 Easy answer to crazy person mentioned by Ace?

"Life is not fair."

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (AHDxb)

287 Do cats count?

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (PFZvJ)

288 Sidebar cat picture made me lol

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (xuouz)

289 "
Sure they tell you fuck off a lot more"

Who needs more of that?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (9ym/8)

290 Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 29, 2016 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

...my reference is regarding health clubs and higher costs for singles vis a vis families.

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (INxoa)

291 women and, to a lesser degree, men

This was our Ranger school motto.

Posted by: Grrrrl Rangers ! at April 29, 2016 02:25 PM (8ZHTC)

292 Potty comedy.

http://tinyurl.com/hrurkhj

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 02:25 PM (Nwg0u)

293 Seeing Mimsy's stupid play isn't really fun. It's an obligation.

I volunteer as tribute!

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 29, 2016 02:25 PM (87y4e)

294 Might explain why modern music is so bad. The musical scale now consists of

do-re-mi-me-me-me-me-me

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:25 PM (mvenn)

295 But perhaps the concept of a family of 6 putting more strain on a health club's bottom line is greater than my single membership. Or is that lost on you?

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:17 PM (INxoa)

I don't think 6 people buying memberships and never going is that much more of a strain than a single person buying a membership and never going.

Health clubs make most of their money off of the fact that most people never actually go.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2016 02:26 PM (zc3Db)

296 Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:24 PM (INxoa)

Whoops. Misread.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 29, 2016 02:26 PM (KUaJL)

297 Ok, so I'm late to the thread and haven't read all the comments, please forgive me if I repeat what anyone else has said.

Here's the thing: Maternity leave ain't no sabbatical. Seriously, these people who think parents have it so damn easy are idiots, most especially in the infant/newborn stage.

Having a newborn baby is stressful as hell. You're exhausted from giving birth, and from the general lack of sleep as the baby has a lot of needs and you have to meet them no matter what time of day it is. And if it's your firstborn, you're likely freaking out because you don't have the first clue as to what the hell you're supposed to do.

The whole idea of me-ternity, like new parents are just loaf in around at home doing the Peg Bundy routine for weeks in end is beyond fricking stupid and clueless. The lady who suggested this should be mocked relentlessly.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at April 29, 2016 02:26 PM (KkVB6)

298 look, you have to take into consideration that these women have kids/obligations when it comes to time off but don't you dare take it into consideration when determining productivity/compensation. is that about right?

sounds pretty democratty to me.

Posted by: x at April 29, 2016 02:26 PM (nFwvY)

299 They have meternity already.

It's called vacation time.

You usually get 2 weeks.

Unless your self employed. Then you may get 2 hours.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 29, 2016 02:26 PM (/HC6x)

300 I like how she thinks maternity leave is all about lounging around, sipping wine, and "learning about yourself," when it's really recovery from a traumatic medical condition while on reassignment to another job.

Posted by: not the mama at April 29, 2016 02:27 PM (K1CUM)

301 "The Pilgrim Story" a fourth grade production.

Featuring Mimsy as Plymouth Rock.

Her performance captures the full essence of Rock-ness.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:27 PM (mvenn)

302 My problem, as a single woman, is not with maternity leave. It is with the asshole female coworkers who expect you to put aside your vacation plans for theirs since, "You don't have kids, so your schedule is more flexible." That is bullshit. You having a kid and a job does not bestow upon you special privileges that those of us who are barren dont get. I used to get shit on all the time by a coworker with a kid - that is when she wasn't bringing the brat into the office to run around and scream bloody murder. My boss, and hers, bought into the bullshit and let her shit all over those of us without kids.

Posted by: Paula at April 29, 2016 02:27 PM (qPOi2)

303

Mike Pence endorsed Ted Cruz Friday, just days before a primary that could make or break the Texas Senator's chances of halting Donald Trump's march to the Republican Presidential nomination.

But Pence was quick to praise Trump too, and encouraged Hoosier voters to "make up their own minds." "I'm not against anybody..."

Interesting...

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2016 02:27 PM (hTqVx)

304 well i get that. that's a good point.

but, while some parents are abusing the system (as all people will abuse all systems), a lot of parent-work is kind of not terribly fun. Seeing Mimsy's stupid play isn't really fun. It's an obligation.

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 02:06 PM (dciA+)

Well, see, I agree with that.

It's the entitlement mentality which is why the whole meternity idea is stupid. Well, okay, not all, the notion that maternity leave is a fun vacation of joy is just licking the guano pile insane.

Hell, that's the issue with pretty much everything. No one minds helping out now and then and people get that kids get sick and hey have to see the stupid play and all of that. It's the but you must do this for me that grates.

Same thing with the shrieking ninnies about any type of public benefit. It's the notion that I *owe* anyone who isn't family support sets my teeth on edge. The hell I do. The hell I owe the money I make to anyone for whose care I am not directly responsible. Now, a valid argument can be made that it is in my best interest as a member of society to provide some measure of taxation to assist those in need in order to maintain safe community. Okay. Fine I can see that if I squint. But when that changes to I owe it to put food in someone else's mouth Because Whatever? Yeah. No.

As I said, I'm not really a good person.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 29, 2016 02:27 PM (mf5HN)

305 Single women need to be given maternity leave whenever their cats get pregnant.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (zc3Db)

306 I've been dropping hints that maybe Trump has some more sex scandal in him than the 3 divorces.

Modeling agency
Beauty Pageants

These attract pervs like priesthood does pedos.

Trump also praised the Pedo Island fellow billionaire Epstein.

Now...I've been linking Trump to that guy, as has the Daily Mirror (Tabloid alert...)

But now we get this:

In 2010, Epstein pled the Fifth when asked by a lawyer representing one of Epstein's victims about his relationship with Trump:

Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.
-----

Soooooo...guy who likes models, beauty contestants, has had a string of wives, and praised Epstein...

Do you think he kept it in his pants?

Posted by: Harun at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (UBBWX)

307 Featuring Mimsy as Plymouth Rock.

OW!! STOP STEPPING ON MEEEEE!!!1!

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (3ZtZW)

308 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2016 02:26 PM (zc3Db)

HEH...true that.

Posted by: billygoat at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (INxoa)

309 301 "The Pilgrim Story" a fourth grade production.

Featuring Mimsy as Plymouth Rock.

Her performance captures the full essence of Rock-ness.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:27 PM (mvenn)

She dropped The People's Elbow on their candy asses?

Posted by: Insomniac at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (0mRoj)

310 I have twin 2 month old girls at home, so with some degree of authority, I can tell these stupid harridans that maternity/family leave is not a vacation.

My wife is home all day long with the girls. Right now, they're forgoing sleep during the day for cluster feeds, and crying in between. Basically, there is barely 5 minutes during the day in which she isn't soothing or feeding a fussy baby.

This pattern has continued into the nights, which is so much fun. Getting out of bed every other hour to change diapers and feed screaming babies; I haven't slept through the night in weeks, and I'm lucky when I get >4 hours of combined sleep on any given night.

But no, you deserve a sabbatical. Fair's fair, after all.

Posted by: Hal at April 29, 2016 02:29 PM (O7cgj)

311 304 ... Aw bullshit Alex, you're a fine person.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 29, 2016 02:29 PM (8v0G6)

312 304 ... Aw bullshit Alex, you're a fine person.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 29, 2016 02:29 PM (8v0G6)

313 That Mimsy's going to be a helluva good actress some day.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:29 PM (mvenn)

314 new post and ambiguous cat

Posted by: ace at April 29, 2016 02:29 PM (dciA+)

315 The thought was so nice, I said it twice.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 29, 2016 02:30 PM (8v0G6)

316 I've been dropping hints that maybe Trump has some more sex scandal in him than the 3 divorces.

I think you're misjudging your audience if you think anyone is looking for hints from you.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 29, 2016 02:30 PM (uURQL)

317 297
Ok, so I'm late to the thread and haven't read all the comments, please forgive me if I repeat what anyone else has said.

Here's the thing: Maternity leave ain't no sabbatical. Seriously,
these people who think parents have it so damn easy are idiots, most
especially in the infant/newborn stage.

Having a newborn baby is stressful as hell. You're exhausted from
giving birth, and from the general lack of sleep as the baby has a lot
of needs and you have to meet them no matter what time of day it is. And
if it's your firstborn, you're likely freaking out because you don't
have the first clue as to what the hell you're supposed to do.

The whole idea of me-ternity, like new parents are just loaf in
around at home doing the Peg Bundy routine for weeks in end is beyond
fricking stupid and clueless. The lady who suggested this should be
mocked relentlessly.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at April 29, 2016 02:26 PM (KkVB6)

Every word of this is true.

My husband traveled to his job in Chicago (we were in ATL) when our son was four days old. And he continued to commute every week for the next five years. In-laws lived 10 minutes away and never brought so much as a can of soup to me.

Anyhow, I survived...barely. A "vacation" it wasn't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 29, 2016 02:30 PM (FsuaD)

318 So, as the world's (certainly the Western world's) workforce continues to grey, as people live longer, as machines take-up an ever-larger percentage of the work that used to be done by carbon-based lifeforms, as productivity improvements reduce the number of carbon-based lifeforms needed to perform what work is left to be done...

... does this problem get worse? Or better?

My guess? Worse. Much, much worse.

Until a large-scale war wipes out lots and lots of carbon-based lifeforms, in which case the survivors get to start over, I suppose.

Which could be a feature, rather than a bug, of the current prevailing social philosophies, methinks.

Posted by: DocJ at April 29, 2016 02:30 PM (zrsn3)

319 Do you think he kept it in his pants?

===

Sure. Why not.

Posted by: Bigby's Talking Finger at April 29, 2016 02:30 PM (3ZtZW)

320 Do you think he kept it in his pants?

Posted by: Harun at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (UBBWX)

And who is suppose to bring this up? Hillary? Her surrogates? The press?

Do you honestly think this can happen when Trump can line women up at a microphone and recount the Clinton days?

I don't think so.

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2016 02:31 PM (Zs4uk)

321 Modeling agency
Beauty Pageants

These attract pervs like priesthood does pedos.

Posted by: Harun at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (UBBWX)

Uh .... beauty pageants and modeling agencies don't attract perverts. They attract very normal people - almost all the normal people. That's what beauty is all about and why models are models.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 29, 2016 02:32 PM (zc3Db)

322 Back in the day I worked for a very good New York law firm, with an authoritarian asshole culture.

Associates were expected to bill up the wazoo, and keep on top of a large case load.
Some weeks there would be "assignments" in Court or depositions that could only sustain a limited amount of client billing, and the paperwork would pile up.

Firm lore told of a young Associate who asked one of the Senior Partners if he could have more "in" days (non assignment days) so he could catch up with his work.

The Partner is said to have replied: "There are two 'in' days every week. They are called 'Saturday' and 'Sunday.'"

I have since moved on and up professionally. And yes those days sucked. But the younguns today have no idea...

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 29, 2016 02:32 PM (k8tEg)

323 Posted by: Harun at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (UBBWX)

But to be fair, Mr. Trump has never been seen waving a Mexican flag at a St. Patrick's Day parade.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Hire Instigators, Inc. to Spice Up Your Formal Dinner! An Outrage Outlet subsidiary. at April 29, 2016 02:32 PM (hLRSq)

324 How long is maternity leave in Europe?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 29, 2016 02:32 PM (k4M/B)

325 Somewhere in America, approximately every 15 minutes, a fourth-grader portrays a tree, rock or shrubbery in a school play.

She must be found...and stopped.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 29, 2016 02:32 PM (mvenn)

326 The place: the Ardennes
The time: December 16, 1944

Sergeant Ms. Wymyn: The Krauts have broken through with what seems to be a major push. Get in your foxholes and hold at any cost. Meanwhile, I feel a meternity leave coming on.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 29, 2016 02:33 PM (Nwg0u)

327 Posted by: Hal at April 29, 2016 02:29 PM (O7cgj)
====================================

Hal - I'll pray for you and your wife, for some much needed rest and for the twins to settle into a regular sleep pattern. My first one cried non-stop for six months and only slept a total of 6 hours during a 24 hour period. I thought I would go mad. Insane loco mad.

It got better. Somehow things get better. You will sleep again. God bless your wife.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 29, 2016 02:33 PM (dFi94)

328 Cruz nood. Crood?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 29, 2016 02:34 PM (uURQL)

329 Do you think he kept it in his pants?

Posted by: Harun at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (UBBWX)

Sounds legit to me.

-Bill

Posted by: Meremortal at April 29, 2016 02:34 PM (hTqVx)

330 Posted by: Harun at April 29, 2016 02:28 PM (UBBWX)

Also, Trump is immune to a lot of this stuff because he's Donald Trump, not Mike Huckabee or Ted Cruz or Rick Santorum.

Trump has never been the cheerleader for "family values".

Posted by: jwest at April 29, 2016 02:35 PM (Zs4uk)

331 Maybe we can get monthly on the rag leave

---

for when you're wiping your server?

Posted by: Hilary at April 29, 2016 02:41 PM (oGRue)

332 A bitchy Ace makes for a fun-reading Ace article. Makes me laugh. So right on.

Posted by: Corona at April 29, 2016 02:45 PM (ragzU)

333 "Work is tough. That's why they call it work."

Also - work sucks; that's why they pay you.

Posted by: Roger Bournival at April 29, 2016 02:49 PM (PF079)

334 There was a Hong Kong movie made about 15 years ago called "Dummy Mommy, without a Baby." The heroine is an office worker and she is constantly annoyed at her coworkers who have children or are pregnant shirking all their tasks and unloading all their work on her since she is single and has no life, it doesn't help that she is a terrible incompetent and lazy worker who is about to get fired.

She then learns of a new government regulation making it illegal to fire a pregnant woman, so she fakes a pregnancy and milks it for all it is worth. This is played as a romantic comedy, but nobody learns anything from the experience. Our heroine is just as shallow and self absorbed at the end as she was at the beginning. Of course because she was rewarded every step of the way.

It isn't that great but the actress Miriam Yeung is fantastic, and the movie is so incredibly cynical. This actress made a specialty of this sort of thing.

A much better one was called "Love Undercover" in which she plays an incompetent policewoman who only got into and through the police academy because they needed to increase the number of women. She is then made a detective and infiltrates a triad where she promptly falls in love with a gangster. At this point it gets ridiculous. It is very very cynical and very funny and it would be dark as hell if it wasn't. The sequel is good to.

They made a lot of this "Bad Teacher" sort of thing in Hong Kong in the early 2000s a few years after Reunification. "Bad Teacher" itself completed reminded me of a movie called "Teaching Sucks" which has a young idealistic teacher outraged at his colleagues indifference until his spirit is broken, and that is the first five minutes, the rest of the movie is two male teachers pretending to be dedicated in a competition to seduce a new hire.

Sorry about that rambling mess, but these things become so unbearably stupid yet they tear down the morals of even societies destroyers in the end. I really do not believe that anywhere touched by modernity is going to be any better.

The Chinese are going to follow us straight down this road, India as well, in a few decades Russia will have some flower revolution and they will become as useless as Spain, and eventually everyone else will to. The only one's yelling stop and willing to do anything about it are the Islamists, but they are corrupt as anyone on the planet and even more hypocritical, plus they worship death which doesn't work all that well when it looks like you are winning.

In the end we will be in that horrible state Nietzsche predicted where everyone will not just claim God is dead, but that he never existed and they will genuinely believe it and act accordingly. No one will think there is any objective reality and the horror of that world will show some future generation that the Fall in the Garden was completely True.

Posted by: Roy LC at April 29, 2016 02:52 PM (DSwhx)

335 We need Soros to fund the workers paradise and the Koch's to fund the entrepreneur's paradise. Then we can sit around and argue about which is better while the billionaires pay the bills. Actually, that's exactly what Twitter feels like.

Posted by: bjk at April 29, 2016 02:57 PM (zf/mb)

336 Feminist should give up their "Woman card" and get the "Man Card" which entitles you to 60-70 hour work weeks, not including duties at home. And no bitching allowed.

Or am I getting this mixed up with my "White Privilege" card?

Posted by: Ripley at April 29, 2016 02:58 PM (1BQGO)

337 Eat (free dinners, EBT card)

Pray (rather, "prey" on some suckers sympathies/desire for sex)

Love (self only)

What? It's only been a short 6 yrs since my last comment... I needed, nay, DESERVED an extended "meternity," & you penis swinging donkeys just need to mind your own beeswax & get back to humping our load.

Posted by: di butler, bitches at April 29, 2016 03:00 PM (Xk4GS)

338 Gender wage gap as a symptom of a gender values gap:
http://tinyurl.com/jjrdfo8

It's quite sad that "profitability" talk is verboten. That's all it is. Work more, make more for the organization, get compensated more. Tortured philosophy shouldn't obliterate the reality that numbers control.

Posted by: 0302 at April 29, 2016 03:07 PM (wx6iv)

339 Milo was right, Feminism is a Cancer

Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 29, 2016 03:10 PM (WsJuq)

340
My husband traveled to his job in Chicago (we were in ATL) when our son was four days old. And he continued to commute every week for the next five years. In-laws lived 10 minutes away and never brought so much as a can of soup to me.

Anyhow, I survived...barely. A "vacation" it wasn't.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 29, 2016 02:30 PM (FsuaD)

The hell? Did your husband know? Oh my good Lord.

Jane, I wish I could hug your neck and buy you an orangesicle milkshake, just for all the crap you have gone through with your in laws, much less for raising an awesome son and being an ette.

My inlaws are bad, but that absolutely takes the cake.

And yes, maternity leave is not a damn vacation. It's recovery from a medical procedure. The miracle of birth isn't always a miracle, and is sometimes nigh on deadly for a woman, and the baby. Stupid bint that wants a meternity needs a boot squarely up her keaster.

Posted by: Moki at April 29, 2016 03:11 PM (ezHMO)

341 Jane d'oh: you said it before I could. The same women being selfish at work remain selfish when the get home. One used to cruise the neighborhood at night, stopping at homes with children of similar age for impromptu play dates. Finally one mother said, This may be your me time, but it's our bath-time.

Hal: My son has twin sons, now eleven. He says the house rule for the first year was, Only one nervous breakdown per person per day. Good luck.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at April 29, 2016 03:17 PM (pZEKq)

342 Ace, Have you tried a melatonin lozenge? I find they help me fall asleep. (I still wake up earlier than I would like, but I just put on a podcast or audiobook until it's light out.)

Posted by: plum at April 29, 2016 03:39 PM (h+OMg)

343 "Generation Y and the Millenials are pretty much the same. Two cohorts of Useless Ignoramuses."

Funny how it always works out that way with all the generations that come after the one you're a part of.

O tempora! Or mores!

Posted by: Dan at April 29, 2016 03:55 PM (cH4JC)

344 There was a movie a few years back based on a book by a retired NASA engineer who had grown up in a coal mining town and his conflict with his father who wanted his son to follow in his footsteps working in the mine rather than going to college.

One of the miners said to the young man,"I heard that mining doesen't suit you. Well it doesn't suit me either but I've been doing it for twenty years. "

He was not resentful about doing a job that he didn't like very much or that someone else had the opportunity to do something else. He just accepted it as his responsibility to keep doing it.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 29, 2016 04:22 PM (MpvuV)

345 Ugh. I'm SO over all of the SJW "issues." These individuals are NOT feminists.

At the ripe age of 21 and at the humble height of 5'3", I broke into a male-dominated field and was the first woman ever hired into management by a company. THAT is feminism.

Several years later, after paying my dues and driving around in a POS that another division had already put a million miles on, the company finally got me a new vehicle. And then the sly comments began about who I had slept with to get a new vehicle.

Did I complain of a toxic workplace? Did I file a sexual harassment complaint? No! Because I knew that I had earned it and I didn't give a giant hoo-hah what anybody else thought.

A year or so later, a new GM pulls me into his office to ask if I have been passing information to the company's owner via pillowtalk. Now, in my opinion, this really crossed the line. Still, I merely raised my eyebrow at him as if to say 'that bullshit doesn't justify a response' and walked out of his office.

Fast forward a decade or so and a change of career later and I'm pregnant and working for a small company. I know that I have responsibilities to my employer and to my child. I explain to my employer that I intend to use the current year's vacation and the next year's vacation for my maternity leave and take an additional 2 weeks unpaid, but that I will be back in the saddle directly after that.

This is what adulthood looks like - you don't go whining about every damn thing. You don't assume that there is some colossal injustice at every turn with you cast as the victim. You own up to your responsibilities.

I know it would surprise this woman and a great many so-called adults these days, but feminism should not be about making some fictional playing field level, but about achieving against your own odds.

When I left my first job they replaced me with 5 men - that's how damn good I am. Screw their style of feminism, I earned my stripes the hard way. These "feminists" are wimps.

For the record, having a baby is hard work. But the suggestion that somehow those that have not yet spawned are somehow victimized by those that have...well, let's just say either they are pulling the victim card because that's apparently in vogue/habit OR they really ARE wimps. You can pitch in once in a while without being a victim - and if it really is becoming a problem in the workplace, there is recourse.

Gawd, I'm tired of all the children masquerading as adults. Why can't they pull up their big girl panties and deal?

Posted by: Phoenix at April 29, 2016 04:36 PM (ymCD+)

346 Hey lady, claim refugee status, move to Austria, go on the dole. collect 6K + for doing nothing. Europe is lost.

Posted by: Buffalbob at April 29, 2016 04:40 PM (8nL8o)

347 I'm going to skip the comments for now and just point out that most people have vacation benefits to their jobs, do they not? There are also sick days. Why are these not sufficient?

Posted by: Lurkette at April 29, 2016 05:13 PM (PLmfk)

348 I want to be the first guy to pole vault the White House fence without having to do it.

Posted by: 1st guy to pole vault White House fence at April 29, 2016 05:22 PM (kladP)

349 I'm not bitter over this... or even slightly salty.

If I worked at Salon; my every waking moment would be two things.
1) How can I NOT work at Salon.
2) How can I continue to get paid enough to cover living expenses.

That someone AT Salon thinks this way isn't even a minor surprise to me.
I assumed they would, as I certainly would.
And I obviously extrapolate form one example to assume the opinion of humanity... just like everyone else obviously does (yes, that's a joke).

Posted by: gekkobear at April 29, 2016 05:40 PM (4Zw07)

350 It's calling quitting your job....or getting fired....either way you get Meternity for as long as you want.

Posted by: RGallegos at April 29, 2016 05:47 PM (frYNd)

351 if it was easy it wouldn't be called work, than every one would want to do it.

Posted by: scruff at April 29, 2016 05:57 PM (646vo)

352 These feminazis hate other women and hate babies. It's really about hating being female. But they're still want to be victims. And they want The Man to give them some bennies.

Posted by: John Constantine at April 29, 2016 07:25 PM (DdtyX)

353 "Insomnia struck again."

The good folks at the local dispensary have some effective medicines for that...

http://www.thamesvalleyrelief.com/#!dried-flower/i7kuw

Posted by: tomaig at April 29, 2016 07:37 PM (wuN7I)

354 Says stupid fat whore .... HA ... I love it!

Posted by: Mike H at April 29, 2016 07:37 PM (gPMz3)

355 It's what Lincoln called "the old serpent: you work, I'll eat."

Posted by: Knemon at April 29, 2016 07:53 PM (QaC0a)

356 Taranto says this is satire: http://www.wsj.com/articles/princes-legacy-and-trumps-1461944454

Posted by: Steven S at April 29, 2016 08:16 PM (jlSRZ)

357 Yes, we don't want to work. That's why we demand bonuses in addition to our wages or else we threaten to leave the US. Just like the celebs who will leave if Trump wins in November.

Posted by: Bankers at April 29, 2016 08:36 PM (wOv+L)

358 Some of work because we want to leave something behind. Our work is what matters.

Posted by: June Shelton at April 29, 2016 09:19 PM (6jhig)

359 My dear Ace, this story warrants the level of outrage and insult you aimed at it, and then some. I have worked with such twits. They tend to coast on the accomplishments of others, insert themselves at the front of a parade, and claim exhaustion without ever exerting themselves. As a woman who has had three maternity leaves that included bare minimum time off, going into the office after my water broke because my expertise was needed, taking calls as I was being wheeled into the OR for a C-section, breastfeeding while on conference calls, and much, much more, all I can say is, FUCK HER.

Posted by: Tired Mom at April 30, 2016 02:04 PM (L9NuX)

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