Is Millennials' Dislike of Capitalism Rooted in the Same Psychological Weakness That Causes Them to Want #SafeSpaces?

I think David French is right -- we can see this broadly as a soft generation with no toughness or grit which is strongly adverse to any kind of challenge or competition.

They're very big on Reward, not so much on Risk.

We need a #SafeSpace in the economy.

[T]here is still startlingly broad opposition to capitalism, and I can't help but wonder if part of it springs from the same well-spring of risk aversion that gives us safe spaces, micro-aggressions, and trigger-warnings.
Actual free markets are risky. Companies can fail. Entire industries can vanish. Entrepreneurial dreams are crushed every single day. Free markets don't care for your feelings, your ethnicity, or your gender identity.
Is it any surprise that when millions of people demonstrate an extraordinarily low tolerance for emotional risk that they’d be hostile to an economic system that can so callously disregard their wants and needs?

When a generation of weak, soft imbeciles decides it is too #EmotionallyUnsafe to ever lose in a footrace, we see the end of Track and Field as a sport.

And when these same coddled weaklings and runts decide they can't stand to lose in the competition for innovation and hard work, we'll see the end of all competition in innovation a d hard work.

Economic Participation Trophies for Everybody!

Posted by: Ace at 06:55 PM

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1 Ace, if you haven't heard, Italy has busted up a terror operation on the Vatican and the Israeli Embassy.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 28, 2016 06:54 PM (hTqVx)

2 Before the attack, that is.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 28, 2016 06:54 PM (hTqVx)

3 Corky likes gold stars...right in the center of his forehead!...Yaaaaayyyyy!!!

Posted by: Corky the Retard at April 28, 2016 06:55 PM (INxoa)

4 Why would anyone who expects--no demands--to be coddled constantly and never, ever have to deal with competing ideas be able to function in an environment based on competition?

The only competitive environment left is in sports--particularly the contact sports. And that will come into the sights of the nannies soon enough.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 28, 2016 06:56 PM (hJrjt)

5 And when these same coddled weaklings and runts decide they can't stand to lose in the competition for innovation and hard work, we'll see the end of all competition in innovation a d hard work.

Well said... we used to call this part of the economy Government Service.

You made less, but you were not forced to compete... hell, you were not forced to produce at all...

but then? They started making MORE money on average than the same job outside of Government service, because through Unions they can legally bribe their own bosses.

Now however, we have had a couple of generations TRAINED in school by these people.... and their philosophy is now prevalent.

Posted by: Don Q. at April 28, 2016 06:57 PM (qf6WZ)

6 There's far more to it than weakness or lazy work ethics. Millennials are the product of the education they received, pushing SJW down their throats from kindergarten on. That education is the fault of the Boomers, the most incredibly self-absorbed useless generation ever, as are most all our problems.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2016 06:57 PM (/m8T6)

7 Comment! Where is my Participation Ribbon?

Posted by: SJW intern at April 28, 2016 06:57 PM (jnRfN)

8 Well, the Long March through the Institutions giving us government - employed "teachers" spreading the Gospel According to Marx has had a part in this as well.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 28, 2016 06:57 PM (gUoN4)

9 They beg to be drones in a future authoritarian regime.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 28, 2016 06:58 PM (08Znv)

10 The risk of a free market is akin to Mommy and Mommy letting them play outside unsupervised--
unthinkable.

Posted by: Kasichs NeckWattle at April 28, 2016 06:58 PM (QX0Xt)

11 The soon to be fired manager of the 4-17 Atlanta Braves, Fredi Gonzalez, has taken a bold step by naming Carly Fiorino as his World Series game one starter...!!!

Posted by: Tedi Cruz at April 28, 2016 06:59 PM (DQ7cg)

12 Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2016 06:57 PM (/m8T6)

Yup.... hit this wall myself...

I raised my twins by myself, and used Public Schools.

Even though they were good for public schools, they were still indoctrinated with crap, because while I would see them a couple of hours a day... they had them almost ALL day...

Then, they move out an go to College, where they are in that environment Totally.....

and it can be a train wreck...

Posted by: Don Q. at April 28, 2016 07:00 PM (qf6WZ)

13 I want to amend my earlier #6: it's Boomers who never served in the military, were liberal arts majors, and/or inherited money.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2016 07:01 PM (/m8T6)

14 There's far more to it than weakness or lazy work ethics. Millennials are the product of the education they received, pushing SJW down their throats from kindergarten on. That education is the fault of the Boomers, the most incredibly self-absorbed useless generation ever, as are most all our problems.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2016 06:57 PM (/m8T6)

And which one are you? You have to be one or the other.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at April 28, 2016 07:01 PM (+rQ3M)

15 Shit status: Real.

Posted by: Bosk at April 28, 2016 07:01 PM (n2K+4)

16 They were taken care of by mommy and daddy (or daycare or nanny) and given everything they ever wanted because their parents felt guilty for sticking them in daycare or with the babysitter or nanny all day long.

Now they expect to be taken care of for life and the only one to do that is Big Daddy Government through socialism.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at April 28, 2016 07:02 PM (+eR2D)

17 'They beg to be drones in a future authoritarian regime'

You can call me queen bee!

Posted by: Lorde Hilster at April 28, 2016 07:02 PM (BO/km)

18 Meanwhile these idiots are feeling oh so tolerant about letting sexual deviants into their locker rooms. Idiots.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:02 PM (6GBZO)

19 I think this college-aged generation will do more damage to America than the Hippies.

I'm praying the UK leaves the EU so I can flee there.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at April 28, 2016 07:03 PM (xBAcy)

20 Is Venezuela a safe space?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 28, 2016 07:03 PM (k4M/B)

21
Ace makes a late post, gotta confuse the commenters, right babe?

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (T0BVJ)

22 For leavening:

"Anyone who is not a socialist at 20 has no heart.

Anyone who is still a socialist at 40 has no brain."

-- Oscar Wilde

This is human nature.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (1xUj/)

23 You would flee the US for the UK? Why?

Posted by: freaked at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (BO/km)

24 19 I think this college-aged generation will do more damage to America than the Hippies.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at April 28, 2016 07:03 PM (

Nope. The hippies did the damage. Only because we let them.

Posted by: Golfman at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (48QDY)

25 The upside to this debacle is for the people that have raised savvy, hard-working on-the-ball kids; they'll be able to rip through their peers like a shark gorging on a school of baitfish.

Of course, the government and the media (but I repeat myself) will be there watching for over-achievers, but thank goodness for gross endemic incompetence!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (XdbLA)

26 They're the curled wig, powdered face, leggings generation, fops and dilletantes.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (zuTLp)

27 Heart status: none.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:05 PM (6GBZO)

28 Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (1xUj/)

The version of that quote I heard was from Winston Churchill, not Oscar Wilde.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at April 28, 2016 07:05 PM (+rQ3M)

29 This is why we need all of those impoverished brown children who are flooding over our borders, to not do the jobs our kids won't do.

Or, something.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2016 07:06 PM (etV2e)

30 And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule

Posted by: Lorde Hilster at April 28, 2016 07:06 PM (BO/km)

31 25 The upside to this debacle is for the people that have raised savvy, hard-working on-the-ball kids; they'll be able to rip through their peers like a shark gorging on a school of baitfish

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (XdbLA)

I tell Golfboy this often.

Posted by: Golfman at April 28, 2016 07:07 PM (48QDY)

32 Quote from Oscar Mayer.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 28, 2016 07:07 PM (k4M/B)

33 >>Economic Participation Trophies for Everybody!

Thanks...
But I'd rather have a gender confused Kitteh.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2016 07:07 PM (etV2e)

34 Ace,

I think the poll is flawed because these coddled little bitches have no idea what capitalism really is. For most of their lives, capitalism was a punch line.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2016 07:07 PM (Zu3d9)

35 No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.

Posted by: Oscar Mayer at April 28, 2016 07:08 PM (XGDY7)

36 **gets handed pink slip**

**begins sobbing hysterically*

B-b-but we thought this would have been the safest place of all!

Posted by: Bernie's fired campaign workers at April 28, 2016 07:08 PM (H9MG5)

37 And which one are you? You have to be one or the other.

Boomer. But I'm different! Stop laughing.

I fought hard against what radical teachers tried to teach my kids. Won some, lost some.

Posted by: MTF at April 28, 2016 07:08 PM (/m8T6)

38 >>Ace, if you haven't heard, Italy has busted up a terror operation on the Vatican and the Israeli Embassy.

Curses, foiled again.

Posted by: The Red Pope at April 28, 2016 07:08 PM (c7vUv)

39
In light of this revelation, still think humans will ever leave this solar system? I say no way, Hose-A.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 28, 2016 07:08 PM (T0BVJ)

40 It could mean opportunity for young people with a work ethic, ambition and the ability to put off with frustration, rejection and crap while they build a career.

That is if the government doesn't end up destroying everything.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 28, 2016 07:09 PM (hJrjt)

41 Everybody is awesome in bumper bowling!

Posted by: wooga at April 28, 2016 07:09 PM (fnK0F)

42
You just reminded me...

The Red Witch. Wow. Still has nice boobies, tho.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 28, 2016 07:09 PM (T0BVJ)

43 The version of that quote I heard was from Winston Churchill, not Oscar Wilde.

Well, looking for it I found in on a page called "quotes falsely attributed to Churchill".

On the other hand, I didn't find any reference to Wilde. So I guess it's either Shakespeare or the Bible.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 28, 2016 07:09 PM (1xUj/)

44 Before the attack, that is.
Posted by: Meremortal

#setup #twoclosetoelections #religion of peace #neverhappened #blamebush #whydotheyhateus

Posted by: If Bush was still president. at April 28, 2016 07:09 PM (+CKpi)

45 Only safe space some of their grandfather's knew was in Higgins boat, -30 minutes H hour.

Posted by: Skip at April 28, 2016 07:09 PM (8BJMp)

46 We're gonna need a bigger Ark - 'B'.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2016 07:10 PM (etV2e)

47 Important lesson from history: "soft" Leftists tend to make pretty effective mass-murderers. Genghis and Mohammed might be the only ones who can give them the "Scoreboard!" taunt.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:10 PM (rznWS)

48
And I thought for sure the Red Witch would bring back Jon Snow, but nyet.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 28, 2016 07:10 PM (T0BVJ)

49 I've seen that quote attributed to Marshal Petain.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 28, 2016 07:10 PM (gUoN4)

50 Unfortunately, the only cure for this is the Burning Times. That would separate the wheat from the chaff.

But even then, the chaff would be begging the government to save them, and would willingly surrender even more of their freedom.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2016 07:10 PM (sdi6R)

51 >>On the other hand, I didn't find any reference to Wilde. So I guess it's either Shakespeare or the Bible.

It's in 'Shit Jefferson Said'.

Posted by: garrett at April 28, 2016 07:10 PM (etV2e)

52 Is Venezuela a safe space?

It's almost impossible for kids to get an electrical shock if they stick a knife in the outlet, so ... yeah?

Posted by: Adriane the Past, Present, & probably Future SOS Critic ... at April 28, 2016 07:11 PM (AoK0a)

53 Never give a sucker an even break.

Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at April 28, 2016 07:11 PM (k4M/B)

54 Everybody is awesome in bumper bowling!
Posted by: wooga

So that's what we're calling it these days.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 07:12 PM (+CKpi)

55
**gets handed pink slip**

**begins sobbing hysterically*

B-b-but we thought this would have been the safest place of all!
Posted by: Bernie's fired campaign workers
........................

Man up, everybody gets kicked out of at least one commune in this dog eat dog world. Builds character.

Posted by: Bernie at April 28, 2016 07:12 PM (HgMAr)

56 Nothing a protracted trench war couldn't fix.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 28, 2016 07:12 PM (4ErVI)

57 1 Great,the Pope will now go wash more muslim's feet.

Posted by: steevy at April 28, 2016 07:12 PM (B48dK)

58 Yes.

They have been infantlized by leftist indoctrinators posing as teachers and cultural icons.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:12 PM (aRUb8)

59 >>Is Venezuela a safe space?

It's almost impossible for kids to get an electrical shock if they stick a knife in the outlet, so ... yeah?

And no one will yell at them for putting the toilet paper on the holder the wrong way.

Posted by: Aviator at April 28, 2016 07:12 PM (c7vUv)

60 It costs very little to live a satisfying bachelor life today: Internet, porn, video games, and slutty chicks are cheap and readily accessible. Why endure the risk and pain of capitalism, when the soft womb of socialism can provide you with just enough money to live that happy life?

Posted by: wooga at April 28, 2016 07:13 PM (fnK0F)

61 "Speak softly and carry a big stick."

Posted by: Patton at April 28, 2016 07:13 PM (etV2e)

62 The bright side is their education has not prepared them for economic collapse and civil war. So they will start a fight by doing something really stupid, but won't put the hard work into actually winning the conflict they started.

They only have power now because they are emboldened an protected by academia, media, and civil government. In other words hardworking and patriotic Americans have created a safe space for them to operate in called the United States. That safe space is already going down the tubes from within, and at some point the hardworking and patriotic Americans will conclude it is not worth keeping some parts of the safe space...safe.

It appears we are now seeing the problem that our founding fathers noticed, Republics are limited in how big their population gets, how diverse culturally that republic becomes, and even geographical size creates problems based on region.

At some point the people who keep this country afloat won't care about, or defend, other parts anymore.

Posted by: William Eaton at April 28, 2016 07:13 PM (KhJh8)

63 We're all weak until we get on our feet. Then, it's fuck all, instant conservative!

Years 18-21 are scary if you don't know where the hell you're going.

Posted by: Jeanne del norte at April 28, 2016 07:13 PM (pXwMr)

64 C'mon, anybody with droopy-ass pants and a ball cap can become a hip hop superstar. The $15 minimum wage is DOA.

Posted by: Fritz at April 28, 2016 07:13 PM (51YEm)

65 Well, I'm still voting for Carrington Event II to fix all of our problems.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 28, 2016 07:13 PM (gUoN4)

66 I've seen that quote attributed to Marshal Petain.

"If you're a socialist when I'M 85, I'll shop yer ass to the Nazis so fast your beret will twirl!"

"Petain ne pas apaiser!"

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 28, 2016 07:14 PM (XdbLA)

67 59 >>Is Venezuela a safe space?

It's almost impossible for kids to get an electrical shock if they stick a knife in the outlet, so ... yeah?
Posted by Aviator

Heh. It's funny cause it's true.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 07:15 PM (+CKpi)

68 >>>>I think this college-aged generation will do more damage to America than the Hippies.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at April 28, 2016 07:03 PM (

Nope. The hippies did the damage. Only because we let them.
.
.
.
.Lest everyone forget, the Hippies were mostly Baby Boomers that turned bad.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:15 PM (iONHu)

69
The special snowflakes can go right ahead and cower in their safe spaces along with their trigger warnings.

Those that emerge into real life and get ground into carbon dust by reality I will laugh at.

They ALL are encouraged to spend whiny, short, ineffectual lives and die in pitiful obscurity, unmourned by any.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 28, 2016 07:15 PM (P/8aq)

70 60 It costs very little to live a satisfying bachelor life today: Internet, porn, video games, and slutty chicks are cheap and readily accessible. Why endure the risk and pain of capitalism, when the soft womb of socialism can provide you with just enough money to live that happy life?
Posted by: wooga at April 28, 2016 07:13 PM (fnK0F)

http://www.usdebtclock.org/#

Posted by: Math, bitchez at April 28, 2016 07:16 PM (sdi6R)

71 "Not to be a republican at 20 is proof of want of heart; to be one at 30 is proof of want of head"

François Guizot--22nd Prime Minister of France

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2016 07:17 PM (Zu3d9)

72
The "Meathead and Gloria" generation had offspring. This is the result.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 28, 2016 07:17 PM (T0BVJ)

73 ***That education is the fault of the Boomers, the most incredibly self-absorbed useless generation ever, as are most all our problems.***

Thanks, I'll go kill myself now so I won't trouble you anymore.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at April 28, 2016 07:18 PM (j443w)

74 Cuz Capitalism is...HARD!

Posted by: Millenial Barbie at April 28, 2016 07:18 PM (YFFpo)

75 My observation --- made after much testing on students and my kids' friends--- is that these youngsters are just mindlessly parroting what they have heard. "Capitalism" is bad.

But if I ask them to define "capitalism," they have a LOT of trouble doing it. Most of the ones who can come up with an answer at all offer up things like cheating customers, polluting rivers, false advertising, etc. Then there's the "lacking compassion" meme.

IOW, they are talking about crime and individual moral failure, not a free market system. They are incredibly ignorant.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 28, 2016 07:18 PM (T/5A0)

76 I was big on safe spaces.

Posted by: Pol Pot from the Crypt at April 28, 2016 07:19 PM (INxoa)

77 "Time to make the doughnuts!"

Posted by: Gen. McAuliffe at April 28, 2016 07:19 PM (H9MG5)

78 Find one. Mentor it. Duplicate yourself. Each one teach one.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:19 PM (dFi94)

79 You know, if my designers had just added 'shrug it off, cupcake' and 'Aren't WE special!' to my vocabulary, a lot of this misery could have been avoided.

I was just a puppet, to them.

Posted by: Teddy Ruxpin at April 28, 2016 07:20 PM (XdbLA)

80 The upside to this debacle is for the people that have raised savvy,
hard-working on-the-ball kids; they'll be able to rip through their
peers like a shark gorging on a school of baitfish

I have 4 of them. Number three just enrolled at Stanford Law School, and told HLS to suck it.

Posted by: pep at April 28, 2016 07:20 PM (LAe3v)

81 Ok. I can't stand it.
Totally off topic.
But the NFL draft has a red carpet and people talking fashions??? Huh? Did I miss something?
Oh.
Millennials.
So maybe not so off topic after all.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 28, 2016 07:20 PM (08Znv)

82 "Ace, if you haven't heard, Italy has busted up a terror operation on the Vatican and the Israeli Embassy. "

Wait, you mean taking Muslims into the Vatican wasn't a good idea?

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:21 PM (6GBZO)

83 @6: "There's far more to it than weakness or lazy work ethics. Millennials
are the product of the education they received, pushing SJW down their
throats from kindergarten on. That education is the fault of the
Boomers, the most incredibly self-absorbed useless generation ever, as
are most all our problems."

Also, they got to witness some pretty epic failures of capitalism-as-practiced: the tech bust, the housing bust, stagnant wages, a collapsing workforce, etc. Given what they've seen of capitalism-as=practiced, small wonder they don't like it.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:21 PM (rznWS)

84 Trump will make the brats work and like it. It'll be great.

Posted by: Deputy Dawg at April 28, 2016 07:21 PM (gs4SS)

85 I have 4 of them. Number three just enrolled at Stanford Law School, and told HLS to suck it.

Yay, pep!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (XdbLA)

86 Well I think French has half a point.
Sure, the #SafeSpace idea also applies to market competition.
But it is also true that too many people, including people on the right, think "capitalism" means "giant Wall Street banks" when it isn't.
So if I thought "capitalism" meant TBTF banks, then I might say I'm opposed to that too.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (uAvJJ)

87 The old Andy Griffith TV series had an episode where Opie learned he was not a special snow flake. They had some Country boys track and field meet and he came in dead last. He learned one of life's lessons and got over it.

You most certainly do not see any of that on TV anymore.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (iONHu)

88 .Lest everyone forget, the Hippies were mostly Baby Boomers that turned bad.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:15 PM (iONHu)

It was seeded by beatniks and poets..Kerouac and Burroughs..comedians like Lord Buckley and Lenny Bruce. Six or seven decades later we have chicks with dicks and guys with pies and you MUST submit to their mental illnesses.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (aRUb8)

89 Gas is 17 cents a gallon in Venezuela.

If the citizens had cars and somewhere to go they'd be in business.

Milk is unobtainable at any price.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (hTqVx)

90 >>The version of that quote I heard was from Winston Churchill, not Oscar Wilde.

One of the great misquotes ever. Churchill never actually said that but he often gets credit.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (/tuJf)

91 Margarita DeVille - very true, just parroting what they've been told all their lives.
Lots of opinions, almost no substantive knowledge.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (gUoN4)

92 "Ah'll be bahck."

Posted by: George Washington, after losing New York City at April 28, 2016 07:23 PM (H9MG5)

93 >>>>Also, they got to witness some pretty epic failures of
capitalism-as-practiced: the tech bust, the housing bust, stagnant
wages, a collapsing workforce, etc. Given what they've seen of
capitalism-as=practiced, small wonder they don't like it.
.
.
.
.Uh, that wasn't Capitalism, that is/was Federal Government intervention in the free market mostly.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:23 PM (iONHu)

94 Hillary will increase the amount of safe spaces, count on it.

Posted by: Skip at April 28, 2016 07:24 PM (8BJMp)

95 They're very big on Reward,

I'm all for rewarding the millenials. Who the hell let them out of the wards to begin with?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 28, 2016 07:24 PM (zc3Db)

96 Holy shit! We just had a big f-ing deal of a hail storm here in the northern Panhandle of Texas. Golf ball size and under.

Posted by: huerfano at April 28, 2016 07:24 PM (NSb9d)

97 "I regret that I have but one wife to give for my country."

Posted by: Henny Youngman at April 28, 2016 07:24 PM (etV2e)

98 Wait, you mean taking Muslims into the Vatican wasn't a good idea?

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:21 PM (6GBZO)

Didn't take long, huh?

Posted by: Meremortal at April 28, 2016 07:25 PM (hTqVx)

99 "Unexpected consequences" of the "self esteem" movement.

The end result? Lots of narcissists who are addicted to their phones and scared of everything except totalitarianism.

/maybe someone should tell them the Commies will take their internet away?

Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at April 28, 2016 07:25 PM (AHDxb)

100 >>>But the NFL draft has a red carpet and people talking fashions??? Huh? Did I miss something?

Oh.

Millennials.

So maybe not so off topic after all.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 28, 2016 07:20 PM (08Znv)<<<

OMG, OMG did you see what he was wearing... faaaaaabulous!

And Mel Kiper's hair... haaaated it.

Oh, oh, Lebron just Tweeted something funny! *tee-hee* #NFLDraft

Posted by: E!SPN at April 28, 2016 07:26 PM (H9MG5)

101 I wonder if their insecurity has as much to do with doing everything they were told to do -- getting the grades, getting the student loan, going to college -- then showing up for a job market that's been stagnant since 2008.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at April 28, 2016 07:26 PM (eOVCE)

102 "
Didn't take long, huh?"

Nope

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:26 PM (6GBZO)

103 @93: ".Uh, that wasn't Capitalism, that is/was Federal Government intervention in the free market mostly."

Hence the qualifier "capitalism-as-practiced"; i.e., he real world version of what *passes for* capitalism.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:28 PM (rznWS)

104 I hope Italy throws those bastards off the Carpathian Rock.

Posted by: Meremortal at April 28, 2016 07:28 PM (hTqVx)

105 Lest everyone forget, the Hippies were mostly Baby Boomers that turned bad.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:15 PM (iONHu)
-----
It
was seeded by beatniks and poets..Kerouac and Burroughs..comedians like
Lord Buckley and Lenny Bruce. Six or seven decades later we have chicks
with dicks and guys with pies and you MUST submit to their mental
illnesses.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:22 PM (aRUb

As much as I hate to, I also attribute some of it to the child rearing of some of the Greatest Generation, particularly those that with the best of intentions didn't want their offspring to grow up suffering the privations of the Great Depression and WWII as they themselves had done.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 28, 2016 07:28 PM (GUBah)

106 Lack of community.

Families aren't run capitalistically. Infants aren't forced to pay room and board. Brothers and sisters have a bond that isn't based on a subscription fee. Parents have a duty to children and children have a duty to parents.

Similar thing in extended family and the local community.

That has all been destroyed in modern society - we're a bunch of islands going their own way. We lack that social safety net.

And so socialism and millenial behavior is trying to fill the void. Poorly ... but there's a root need.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 07:28 PM (uURQL)

107 @99: "maybe someone should tell them the Commies will take their internet away?"

The Communists learned - let the proles have their gadgets and toys; it will make keeping them in line even easier.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:29 PM (rznWS)

108 Remember when the chosen one spoke of the audacity of hope? Good times. Good times.

Posted by: Fritz at April 28, 2016 07:29 PM (51YEm)

109 >>>Also, they got to witness some pretty epic failures of
capitalism-as-practiced: the tech bust, the housing bust, stagnant
wages, a collapsing workforce, etc. Given what they've seen of
capitalism-as=practiced, small wonder they don't like it.>>>
.
Its all relative. Compare it to any other economic system. They won't but they should.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 28, 2016 07:30 PM (MNgU2)

110 OY!

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE YO! at April 28, 2016 07:30 PM (XdbLA)

111 E!SPN 100.

That tux was just to DIE for!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 28, 2016 07:32 PM (08Znv)

112 So speaking of capitalism, why are there only 6 houses total to rent in Baton Rouge?

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:32 PM (6GBZO)

113 I lay it on the parents who want to be their kids' friend rather than a parent. Long ago I used the Nick Nolte line from 48 Hours. We ain't buddies, we ain't partners, and we ain't friends. Years from now I can be their friend. They need a father now. Yeah, it sucks sometimes. I'm sure my kids aren't real happy right now to have a former Sergeant of Marines as a dad. Hopefully they'll appreciate it someday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2016 07:32 PM (kTF2Z)

114 The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

I never tire of quoting Churchill.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 28, 2016 07:33 PM (MNgU2)

115 "That education is the fault of the Boomers, the most incredibly self-absorbed useless generation ever, as are most all our problems."
--------------
Ah, yes, the Boomers.
The only age demo that voted against Obama in both 2008 and 2012.
The ones who, even when they were silly 18 yr olds, voted against McGovern.
The last generation to serve in the military in significant numbers, who fought and died in Vietnam.

The ones who won the war and then saw the pre-Boomers like Cronkite lie about it, the pre-Boomers in Congress throw away the victory, the pre-Boomers in the media look the other way or applaud while a vicious minority spit on them, the pre-Boomers like Jane Fonda getting an Oscar, while pre-Boomers like Bill Ayers plotted to blow up a dance at Ft. Dix.

The most self-absorbed and useless generation ever!
Sure.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 28, 2016 07:33 PM (T/5A0)

116 Posted by: Country Singer at April 28, 2016 07:28 PM (GUBah)

I agree that the Greatest Generation tried to protect their children from the privations of their youth.

And....it was easy to do, because the post-war economic boom created incredible wealth in America.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2016 07:34 PM (Zu3d9)

117 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 28, 2016 07:33 PM (T/5A0)

Preach it, Sis!

Posted by: Meremortal at April 28, 2016 07:35 PM (hTqVx)

118 Hopefully they'll appreciate it someday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2016 07:32 PM (kTF2Z)

When they are independent of you they will have an epiphany.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2016 07:35 PM (Zu3d9)

119 The only age demo that voted against Obama in both 2008 and 2012.

He wouldn't get off of my lawn!

Posted by: Say It Now And Say It Loud, I'm Old And I'm Proud! at April 28, 2016 07:35 PM (XdbLA)

120

while this is broadly true

Please remember that this same generation has seen and fought in wars

or at least a tiny number of them. I hate to paint those men with the same chicken shit brush

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:35 PM (zOTsN)

121 We had the Depression of the30's, and Socialism got a good foothold. The War, and the Greatest Generation came home, and lived the American Dream. They did produce the Boomers, an entitled group that had it easy. They bred Millenials, that just "want to make a difference", it makes them "feel" virtuous. We recycle the same old ideas, but Socialism lies apart from the experience.
Every generation has its' share of blame for the disaster we've become.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:35 PM (zuTLp)

122 Red carpet NFL draft on E!SPN

Lol, I was just recently complaining about this to my wife.

Now they're introducing all the players that are present. Since when are that many in attendance?

Posted by: Cooldawg at April 28, 2016 07:36 PM (X2j6Y)

123 76 I was big on safe spaces.

Posted by: Pol Pot from the Crypt at April 28, 2016 07:19 PM (INxoa)

Many of them were six feet under.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 28, 2016 07:36 PM (4ErVI)

124 One of the Horde posted the results of a survey on workplace attitudes per generation of American workers. It went something like this:

Boomers: want predictability and job security.

Generations X/Y: want rapid advancement and personal recognition.

Millennials: want rapid advancement, personal recognition, predictability, and job security.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (noWW6)

125 Capitalism is great, especially Crony Capitalism.

Like Paul Manafort and RogerStone selling back Ukraine to Vladimir Putin, via Slate.

Posted by: The Boehner/Trump/Clinton Axis of Uni-Party at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (Ndje9)

126 78 Find one. Mentor it. Duplicate yourself. Each one teach one.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:19 PM (dFi94)
---------------------
THIS.
This is what we have to do.
It is all we can do, but do it we must.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (T/5A0)

127 Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 28, 2016 07:33 PM (T/5A0)

By boomers I'm sure he didn't mean the boomers you listed. I'm sure he meant the Boomer family. They sucked. Always borrowing stuff and never bringing it back.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (MNgU2)

128 Winter is coming.

Posted by: the guy who says winter is coming at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (6FqZa)

129 lets remember Ramadi, and Fallujah, and Mosul and all the other operations known and unknown

young people fought and some died there

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

130 "This is not the Boomer you're looking for...."

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:38 PM (zuTLp)

131 26 They're the curled wig, powdered face, leggings generation, fops and dilletantes.
Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:04 PM (zuTLp)
---
I take pride, sirrah, in being a lace-wig Macaroni lolling on the royal barge of state. But I'm a hard-working dilettante. It's a lifestyle. It takes dedication to the art.

These kids are the end result of the pajamafication of our country, fit only for cocooned lives with food, fun, and frolic delivered to their door, never going out for the hunt.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at April 28, 2016 07:38 PM (jR7Wy)

132 "Please remember that this same generation has seen and fought in wars

or at least a tiny number of them. I hate to paint those men with the same chicken shit brush"

I don't know the exact line, but there's a huge difference between the kids who enlisted after 9/11, and those who were in grade school then.

I want to say it's post 1990 births maybe?

I mean, of course there are good kids from that time as well, but there's a definite social shift between the oldest millennialist and this new crop.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:38 PM (6GBZO)

133 A whole lot of painting with a broad brush on the baby boomers. People need to remember that the progressives have been planning this $hit since the 1920's or so.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:38 PM (iONHu)

134 I'm surprised they haven't been marching for the universal basic income but I figure it's only a matter of time once the Real World kicks their flabby backsides.

Posted by: jsg at April 28, 2016 07:39 PM (uUhhd)

135 "young people fought and some died there"

All for Obama to piss away to The Abu Crew *spit*

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:39 PM (6GBZO)

136
Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

True. Every generation has members that distinguish themselves by their personal virtue.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:39 PM (zuTLp)

137 101 I wonder if their insecurity has as much to do with doing everything they were told to do -- getting the grades, getting the student loan, going to college -- then showing up for a job market that's been stagnant since 2008.
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at April 28, 2016 07:26 PM (eOVCE)

I've mentioned before that how can we expect them to respect private property rights when the opportunity to acquire and own property is closed to many of them? Most people will not be able to buy a house working service industry jobs.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2016 07:40 PM (sdi6R)

138 @114: "I never tire of quoting Churchill."

Enh, not everything the guy came up with was brilliant.

Posted by: Thousands of dead ANZACs at Gallipoli at April 28, 2016 07:40 PM (rznWS)

139 >>>>I'm surprised they haven't been marching for the universal basic income
but I figure it's only a matter of time once the Real World kicks their
flabby backsides.
.
.
.
.That will come after the Federal $15 minimum wage kicks in and hundreds of thousands of them lose their jobs at McDonald's.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:40 PM (iONHu)

140 young people fought and some died there

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

And they are every bit the equals of the men who fought and died in Europe and the Pacific in WWII.

But there are simply not many of these brave men around. The greatest Generation was great in part because there were so many of them!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2016 07:40 PM (Zu3d9)

141 Struggling with raising a teenager, I often ask myself what as parents, we might have done different.

So now I'm reading this, as an Instapundit recommendation.

http://tinyurl.com/hkqvqcp

Can't speak for everyone else, but for the VIA household, I wish I had read it sooner.

And I can't help but believe that it has been going on in society for a while.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 28, 2016 07:41 PM (ptqRm)

142 137 101 I wonder if their insecurity has as much to do with doing everything they were told to do -- getting the grades, getting the student loan, going to college -- then showing up for a job market that's been stagnant since 2008.
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at April 28, 2016 07:26 PM (eOVCE)

It sure as hell doesn't help.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 28, 2016 07:41 PM (0mRoj)

143 these same vets are on college campuses now, some of them. All is not lost. The babies cry the loudest

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:42 PM (zOTsN)

144 Posted by: Thousands of dead ANZACs at Gallipoli at April 28, 2016 07:40 PM (rznWS)

Good point.

But...if the generals hadn't sucked so badly then Churchill's reputation wouldn't have taken such a hit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2016 07:42 PM (Zu3d9)

145 Obama's "capitalism" hasn't worked out very well for them.

Millennials just recently surpassed Baby Boomers in number.

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 07:42 PM (mcm0N)

146 I think we can all agree that Boomer Esiason is a douche.

Posted by: wooga at April 28, 2016 07:43 PM (fnK0F)

147 I wonder how much of this is for shock value. Rebellion against the old ways just for the sake of rebellion. No thinking about where it leads, just shocking the system.

Posted by: freaked at April 28, 2016 07:43 PM (BO/km)

148 I know personally 3 guys that did mutiple tours in Iraq, in combat. They are remarkable men, and are very different from their civilian peers. Dedicated, not given to blowing their own horn.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:43 PM (zuTLp)

149 This is the basis for my retirement plan. The millennials will be unable to get the job done, so they have to hire me as a consultant to clean up their mess at triple my salary.

I see a future bull market for competence.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 28, 2016 07:43 PM (kBIIG)

150 They may just have this perception of capitalists as wasteful assholes who can't get enough of themselves.

Posted by: West Town at April 28, 2016 07:43 PM (M3fMi)

151 145 Obama's "capitalism" hasn't worked out very well for them.

Yeah. Because he's a fascist.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 28, 2016 07:43 PM (0mRoj)

152 Posted by: wooga at April 28, 2016 07:43 PM (fnK0F)

He's half the local morning drive-time sports show, and he is usually great.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 28, 2016 07:44 PM (Zu3d9)

153 of course they oppose capitalism. its an academic thing to them, and socialism seems so much more intellectually consistent. at least from the stuff they've read....

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 28, 2016 07:44 PM (Cq0oW)

154 As much as I hate to, I also attribute some of it to
the child rearing of some of the Greatest Generation, particularly
those that with the best of intentions didn't want their offspring to
grow up suffering the privations of the Great Depression and WWII as
they themselves had done.

Posted by: Country Singer at April 28, 2016 07:28 PM (GUBah)

I agree..but think back to that state of mind. The overt turning on your own country as is blatantly practiced in schools, media, music etc, was not fathomable. The only way it has come so far is because of trust. The whole element of deception is based in trust...if you don't trust someone, you won't be deceived by them. They had no idea...there was never in history a reference point for them to look back to. The idea that one day it would be banned to fly the American flag would have had you laughed at..the idea that you could be sued for not letting a grown man alone with your opposite gendered child in t6he bathroom would have had you stared at.
Overton Window is almost at the wall.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (aRUb8)

155 @149: "I see a future bull market for competence."

Really? At what point does government start shrinking to actually allow for that?

Just remember - everyone has a future in biofuels.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (rznWS)

156 Parents have a duty to children and children have a duty to parents.

Similar thing in extended family and the local community.

So what is my "duty" to the local community?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (uAvJJ)

157 lets remember Ramadi, and Fallujah, and Mosul and all the other operations known and unknown

young people fought and some died there

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (zOTsN)
==========================================

Yes they did.

http://www.richardjnelson.com/

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (dFi94)

158 Yes I'm proud of our military and what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan and other unsung war zones and they have produced many who are our only hope for our future. Unfortunately, and I hope it's just a false perception but the military seems to be producing more liberal leaning veterans than in the past. Someone tell me I'm completely wrong.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (MNgU2)

159 Just remember - everyone has a future in biofuels.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (rznWS)

I thought the future was plastics.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (4ErVI)

160 I know a bunch of Conservative kids who fought like the dickens--they are British--to defend the reputation of the United States--and they defend Thatcher's wiki. Or--at least they use to,--they would take shifts.

They did all that so we could humiliate them by handing it all over to Trump.

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (mcm0N)

161 Dave @ 149

Excellent point. I've been trying to retire for awhile now but there's just too much to be made.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (08Znv)

162 Holy shit! We just had a big f-ing deal of a hail storm here in the northern Panhandle of Texas. Golf ball size and under.

====

speaking of buying low... bet there's some cars to pick up cheap...

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at April 28, 2016 07:47 PM (Cq0oW)

163 So what is my "duty" to the local community?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (uAvJJ)

Just imagine your local community includes little illegal immigrant children, cj.

Can't you feel your heart expanding?

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:47 PM (m9LNi)

164 121
Every generation has its' share of blame for the disaster we've become.
Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:35 PM (zuTLp)
----------------
Absolutely.
And every generation also has its share of credit for trying to save the Republic.

Villains and heroes of every age.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (T/5A0)

165 I wonder if a lot of the Secularism we have now started in the 50's.... people of that era I've known don't seem all that religious. This is purely anecdotal.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (zuTLp)

166 >>>>Parents have a duty to children and children have a duty to parents.

Similar thing in extended family and the local community.

So what is my "duty" to the local community?
.
.
.
.Keep your property up so you don't ruin your neighbors property values, vote in local elections, volunteer to help out when your neighbors need help. Things like that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (iONHu)

167 Make all these coddled bastards go through boot camp, as a requirement to get into ANY university, parents' money be damned.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (FsuaD)

168 Yes they did.

http://www.richardjnelson.com/

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (dFi94)

exactly

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (zOTsN)

169 Just remember - everyone has a future in biofuels.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (rznWS)

Olive oil as fuel ... because the left is so into modernity ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (zc3Db)

170 Video of Cruz signing the little commie hipster's Commie Manifesto was just perfect.

He is a very patient man.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 28, 2016 07:49 PM (6bMel)

171 "I hope it's just a false perception but the military seems to be producing more liberal leaning veterans than in the past. Someone tell me I'm completely wro"

I have a lot of conservative friends who are young veterans. However, I all say it's probably inevitable that the military SJWing has had an effect on the young people.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:49 PM (6GBZO)

172 So what is my "duty" to the local community?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (uAvJJ)
========================================

I believe that question was asked and answered (slightly differently) in a well-known story told a couple of thousand years ago. "Who then is my neighbor?"

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:49 PM (dFi94)

173 Keep your property up so you don't ruin your neighbors property values, vote in local elections, volunteer to help out when your neighbors need help. Things like that.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (iONHu)

Uh ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 28, 2016 07:50 PM (zc3Db)

174 It takes a village to coddle a child

Posted by: Hillary at April 28, 2016 07:50 PM (8BJMp)

175 lets remember Ramadi, and Fallujah, and Mosul and all the other operations known and unknown
young people fought and some died there
Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

http://bit.ly/1rDpMwm

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:50 PM (m9LNi)

176 Of course, I say "young veterans" and I mean early 30s. I can't speak for the 20 somethings.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:50 PM (6GBZO)

177 exactly

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (zOTsN)
=========================================

That's my pastor's little brother.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:51 PM (dFi94)

178 People need to remember that the progressives have been planning this $hit since the 1920's or so.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 28, 2016 07:38 PM (iONHu)

I agree, but even though the planning started in the early part of the century, the roots stated to grow and take hold in the 50's and 60's, with a burst of growth in the 70's.
If only there was a weed killed for those roots.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:51 PM (aRUb8)

179 They *purposefully* and with Malice Aforethought CREATED this castrated (Adderall dependent) slave race via the public schools.

And they BRAGGED about it while we applauded their "fairness"!

(Participation Trophys!)

Posted by: Deety at April 28, 2016 07:51 PM (xPWMR)

180 Just imagine your local community includes little illegal immigrant children, cj.

Can't you feel your heart expanding?

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:47 PM (m9LNi)
Do you believe I have a "duty", coerced by the state, to little illegal immigrant children in my neighborhood? If so, what?
Do you believe I have a "duty", coerced by the state, to citizen neighbors? If so, what?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:51 PM (uAvJJ)

181 I dont expect any generation to believe exactly as I do. I do expect them to be reality based. I think a vet is more likely to have some perspective than someone of the Walrusian persuasion

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:51 PM (zOTsN)

182 @159: "I thought the future was plastics."

It *was*.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:52 PM (rznWS)

183 Video of Cruz signing the little commie hipster's Commie Manifesto was just perfect.
He is a very patient man.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 28, 2016 07:49 PM (6bMel)

What a little punk. "Ooh you've got a sense of humor."

In Dictatorship of Kari, Solzhenitsyn is required reading.

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:52 PM (m9LNi)

184 164 121
Every generation has its' share of blame for the disaster we've become.
Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 07:35 PM (zuTLp)
----------------
Absolutely.
And every generation also has its share of credit for trying to save the Republic.

Villains and heroes of every age.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 28, 2016 07:48 PM (T/5A0)

Agreed. I've mentioned it so many times that some of you are probably sick of hearing about it, but Strauss and Howe's book "The Fourth Turning" is very thought-provoking. Whatever generation you are part of, it will help you see what makes other generations tick.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2016 07:52 PM (sdi6R)

185 ets remember Ramadi, and Fallujah, and Mosul and all the other operations known and unknown
young people fought and some died there
Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

http://bit.ly/1rDpMwm
Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:50 PM (m9LNi)

amen

he was only 23

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:52 PM (zOTsN)

186 181 I dont expect any generation to believe exactly as I do. I do expect them to be reality based. I think a vet is more likely to have some perspective than someone of the Walrusian persuasion
Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:51 PM (zOTsN)

Tusk tusk!

Posted by: Insomniac at April 28, 2016 07:52 PM (0mRoj)

187
They hate capitalism and love socialism because they're mentally and physically weak. They've been coddled since birth and want everything handed to them and be eternal children

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (45oDG)

188 Gonna be real fun to watch as these special snowflakes figure out that all these big government programs are just transfer payments from the young to the old. Yeah, they're taking 90% of your paycheck, sparky. Sucks to be you.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (kTF2Z)

189 171
"I hope it's just a false perception but the military seems to be
producing more liberal leaning veterans than in the past. Someone tell
me I'm completely wro"

I have a lot of conservative friends who are young veterans.
However, I all say it's probably inevitable that the military SJWing has
had an effect on the young people.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:49 PM (6GBZO)

Son had Obama supporting friends when he first went in. They quickly lost their love for their wrist-flapping, ghey CiC. Ended up hating him. The only Obamabot he actually knew, was an officer. All the NCO's and officers would shut up when the suck-up showed up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (FsuaD)

190 Do you believe I have a "duty", coerced by the state, to little illegal immigrant children in my neighborhood?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:51 PM (uAvJJ)

No. You like to give aid and comfort to the invasion all on your own.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (zc3Db)

191 "
What a little punk. "Ooh you've got a sense of humor."
"

Little fucker.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (6GBZO)

192 172 So what is my "duty" to the local community?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (uAvJJ)
========================================

I believe that question was asked and answered (slightly differently) in a well-known story told a couple of thousand years ago. "Who then is my neighbor?"
Posted by: grammie winger

-------

John? He's not that great of a neighbor. Kinda sucks, actually.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 07:54 PM (+CKpi)

193 "They quickly lost their love for their wrist-flapping, ghey CiC. Ended up hating him. "

Warms my heart, it does.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:54 PM (6GBZO)

194 Caitlyn took us up on Donald's offer to use the ladies room at Trump Tower. If we get our way, all men will soon have that legal right.

You go, girl--then flush!

Posted by: The Obama/Trump/Clinton Axis of Uni-Party at April 28, 2016 07:54 PM (Ndje9)

195 I think all you need to figure out millennials is watch the fatty flapping armflap video. There's your sign.

Posted by: Bosk at April 28, 2016 07:54 PM (n2K+4)

196 What a little punk. "Ooh you've got a sense of humor."
"

Little fucker.
Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (6GBZO)

smug little shit. his mama shouldve taken care of that years ago

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:55 PM (zOTsN)

197 158 Yes I'm proud of our military and what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan and other unsung war zones and they have produced many who are our only hope for our future. Unfortunately, and I hope it's just a false perception but the military seems to be producing more liberal leaning veterans than in the past. Someone tell me I'm completely wrong.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (MNgU2)

************

Leaders sometimes have to give inspirational speeches when asking the citizenry to make great sacrifices for the state--such as in the cases of national security and war.

Great leaders like Churchil. Trump will not be capable of that.

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 07:55 PM (mcm0N)

198 So what is my "duty" to the local community?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (uAvJJ)

Be honest in your business dealings...volunteer to help others..support others doing good works and point out the missteps in governments.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:56 PM (aRUb8)

199 NFL draft is starting

Posted by: Skip at April 28, 2016 07:56 PM (8BJMp)

200 One of our son's best buds in the Corps comes from a long line of Dem voting midwesterners. He and his family all voted for the JEF the first time.

When the second election came up, his family said, "If you vote for Obama again, don't come home."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2016 07:56 PM (FsuaD)

201 Brutal warlords will arise to slap away the outstretched hand, to tear at the bleating throat, and consume the flesh of the indolent.

These are a people meant to be ruled.

Posted by: The Hold Hand Grenade of Artichoke at April 28, 2016 07:56 PM (CUk0C)

202 No cj, you have a duty, a moral obligation to your family and neighbors which you are free to heed or ignore at your discretion.

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:56 PM (m9LNi)

203 "mama shouldve taken care of that years ago"

Oh, haven't you heard? Science! has "proven" that spankings don't work.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:57 PM (6GBZO)

204 Son had Obama supporting friends when he first went
in. They quickly lost their love for their wrist-flapping, ghey CiC.
Ended up hating him. The only Obamabot he actually knew, was an officer.
All the NCO's and officers would shut up when the suck-up showed up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (FsuaD)
==========================================

Little's second tour - he served alongside a priest. From Puerto Rico. He hated Obama. Would tear up communications from the Higher-Ups when Obama sent out those orders about what not to pray, what not to say, how to be a heathen-clergy, etc etc. Would just rip the papers to shreds in the middle of chapel. Then he'd mutter under his breath, in his Puerto Rican accent, about that SOB in the White House. Son said he was a hoot.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (dFi94)

205 188 Gonna be real fun to watch as these special snowflakes figure out that all these big government programs are just transfer payments from the young to the old. Yeah, they're taking 90% of your paycheck, sparky. Sucks to be you.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (kTF2Z)

Yeah, it'll be fun.

Right up until the snowflakes get jobs working for the death panels. "You white reich-wing cis-normative h8er has lived long enough! Time for you to step aside for the good of the Collective!"

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (sdi6R)

206 but Strauss and Howe's book "The Fourth Turning" is
very thought-provoking.
April 28, 2016 07:52 PM (sdi6R)

Leo?

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (aRUb8)

207 I've known parents who have kids in their late 30's and they pay for their insurance and cell phones, I've known parents who drove their 18 year old son to college and checked him into his dorm to make sure he was all comfy, I've known parents who take care of their whore of a daughter's bastard child since she would rather smoke crack and party like it's 1999. I've also know parents who's son did 2 tours in Iraq and is now in college and getting on with his life. I also know a parent (retired 1st Sgt)who lost a son in Afghanistan who was also a Sgt. when he was killed.

Like Father like son. But shame on those weak willed, spineless "parents" who mollycoddle their lame ass kids and then those kids are fostered on society.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (ej1L0)

208 Holy. Dammit.

Posted by: The Holy Hand Grenade of Artichoke at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (CUk0C)

209 So what is my "duty" to the local community?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:45 PM (uAvJJ)

Depends on the community.

What is your duty to the local community when Indians raid your village and scalp people? Militia. Mutual protection.

What is your duty to your village in the Wild West? Do you think a sheriff keeps order all by himself?

The libertarian view of society is fundamentally broken. There's something more to life than each of us doing what we individually want, contract out everything else.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (uURQL)

210 "mama shouldve taken care of that years ago"

Oh, haven't you heard? Science! has "proven" that spankings don't work.
Posted by: Lauren

It's not who we are, as a people, and stuff.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (+CKpi)

211 Keep in mind that our current military are brave men and women who WERE NOT DRAFTED, and count for less than 1% of our population.

They have a POS for a CiC, and an American populace that barely knows they're still at war.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (FsuaD)

212 203 "mama shouldve taken care of that years ago"

Oh, haven't you heard? Science! has "proven" that spankings don't work.
Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:57 PM (6GBZO)

Children should be beaten into cowed, frightened passivity.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (0mRoj)

213 @178: "If only there was a weed killed for those roots."

There was, but people chose not to apply it. Everyone's a patriot until it's time to do patriot stuff. "Lives, fortunes, sacred honor? Yeah, that's nice and all, but I have a job I can't afford to lose, I have a mortgage to pay, my kids need me, etc." As a society, we made the choice not to defend our society, and now everyone's kind of wondering how the bad guys won. It's simple - they showed up. It's one of those it's nobody's fault/it's everybody's fault things.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (rznWS)

214 Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (dFi94)

These stories make me feel much better.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (MNgU2)

215 160 I know a bunch of Conservative kids who fought like the dickens--they are British--to defend the reputation of the United States--and they defend Thatcher's wiki. Or--at least they use to,--they would take shifts.

They did all that so we could humiliate them by handing it all over to Trump.
Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 07:46 PM (mcm0N)

Charles CW Cooke, is that you?

Posted by: West Town at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (M3fMi)

216 >>>NFL draft is starting
Posted by: Skip at April 28, 2016 07:56 PM (8BJMp)<<<

We're trading the 4th pick in exchange for Johnny Manziel!!!

We mad a big mistake letting him go the first time. Not gonna let that happen again.

Posted by: Jerry Jones at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (H9MG5)

217 Oh, haven't you heard? Science! has "proven" that spankings don't work.

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 07:57 PM (6GBZO)

mother wit beats science every time

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (zOTsN)

218 No. You like to give aid and comfort to the invasion all on your own.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 28, 2016 07:53 PM (zc3Db)
Yeah you're right. What those 12-year-olds deserve is not a damn thing, because they're not citizens.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (uAvJJ)

219

Hey kid do you have a job?

Hey kid do you expect to be paid for showing up to work and doing that job?

Hey kid, your wage is your profit for doing your job.

Congrats kid... you're a capitalist.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin trolling the Bernie supporters at work at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (Qj6zv)

220 A lot of the parenting I've observed by the newest crop of parents seems to be bargaining with their offspring, like its a partnership of equals.
Add on all the Leftist indoctrination that Mom and Dad mix in with everything, its too hard to contemplate.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 08:00 PM (zuTLp)

221

Babies cry the loudest. The Walrus among us are always noticed

not the quiet sheep dog, but they are there

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 08:00 PM (zOTsN)

222 Leaders sometimes have to give inspirational speeches when asking the citizenry to make great sacrifices for the state--such as in the cases of national security and war.

Great leaders like Churchil. Trump will not be capable of that.
Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 07:55 PM (mcm0N)

Who needs inspirational speeches when you already have Trumptard cultists?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:01 PM (uURQL)

223 Son attends a university with a lot of veterans, and he works for the vet organization

The vets have to deal with idiot Special Snowflakes on campus daily.

Makes me sick, the stories I hear.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2016 08:02 PM (FsuaD)

224 Children should be beaten into cowed, frightened passivity.
Posted by: Insomniac

That's a paddlin'.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 08:02 PM (+CKpi)

225 224 Children should be beaten into cowed, frightened passivity.
Posted by: Insomniac

That's a paddlin'.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 08:02 PM (+CKpi)

Bitter sarcasm.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 28, 2016 08:02 PM (0mRoj)

226

The libertarian view of society is fundamentally broken. There's
something more to life than each of us doing what we individually want,
contract out everything else.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (uURQL)
So what is my duty to my modern, 21st century suburban/urban community? Not the Wild West, no threat of Indian invasions. Be specific.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:03 PM (uAvJJ)

227 John? He's not that great of a neighbor. Kinda sucks, actually.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 07:54 PM (+CKpi)

Luuuke...I am your neighbor.....

Posted by: Darth Vader at April 28, 2016 08:03 PM (Zu3d9)

228 We are killing for gazuleen.

Immortan Joe/Humungus 2016

Posted by: JackStraw at April 28, 2016 08:04 PM (/tuJf)

229 RM oh and while you are at it, please precisely define what you mean by "community".

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:04 PM (uAvJJ)

230 polling and media coverage of millennials is very unrepresentative. I say this as a millennial. Theres just a very loud group that's getting louder as they see there cause beginning to lose. Majority of millennials know to just keep quiet and wait until there in real world.

Posted by: Connor at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (1WcFV)

231 227 John? He's not that great of a neighbor. Kinda sucks, actually.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 07:54 PM (+CKpi)

Luuuke...I am your neighbor.....
Posted by: Darth Vader at April 28, 2016 08:03 PM (Zu3d9)

About that. Can you dial down the respirator a bit? That rasping noise keeps me up all night. And get a Stormtrooper or somebody to mow your lawn once in a whole for chrissakes. It's knee-deep to a Rancor.

Posted by: Luke at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (0mRoj)

232 Bitter sarcasm.
Posted by: Insomniac

But, of course.

;-)

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (+CKpi)

233 206 but Strauss and Howe's book "The Fourth Turning" is
very thought-provoking.
April 28, 2016 07:52 PM (sdi6R)

Leo?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 07:58 PM (aRUb

No, this one:

https://tinyurl.com/js26cyp

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (sdi6R)

234 Who needs inspirational speeches when you already have Trumptard cultists?

They will deny ever voting for Trump. Will you? Seriously though I truly hope it turns out there will be no need for denial and he doesn't screw up if he is fortunate enough to become President.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (MNgU2)

235 DRAFT nood

Posted by: Skip at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (8BJMp)

236 suburban/urban community? Not the Wild West, no threat of Indian invasions. Be specific.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:03 PM (uAvJJ)

Not very profound, but good citizenship and responsibility starts with keeping my own side of the street clean, literally and metaphorically.

Posted by: kraken at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (zuTLp)

237 "220 A lot of the parenting I've observed by the newest crop of parents seems to be bargaining with their offspring, like its a partnership of equals. "

All the new parenting philosophies say to give your children oodles of "acceptable" choices. This is to avoid power struggles, they say.

The problem is twofold.

1) Children are fickle little monsters. They may have picked corn on the cob over baked beans when you asked, but come dinner they've changed their mind. Now what?

2) Too many choices overwhelm their brains and make them feel less secure.

So you have kids dictating everything, but at the same time parents won't let them out of their sight so the kids never actually learn good decision making skills.

Any wonder they've grown to be vapid tyrants?

Posted by: Lauren at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (6GBZO)

238

and please

this poll was taken at.......Harvard

yes that Harvard

not exactly representative

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 08:06 PM (zOTsN)

239 Yeah you're right. What those 12-year-olds deserve is not a damn thing, because they're not citizens.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (uAvJJ)

You're trying to make a stupid joke but you are correct ... sort of - they're not citizens of this country. They need to go back to the countries they are citizens of.

And 12 year olds who trek all through Mexico (somehow sustaining themselves and avoiding the Mexican police) don't really need any help from you. BUT, if you really want to help then get your butt over to Mexico and start helping them.

Illegals (of any age) have no business in this country. Period. If you want to help illegals then go with them out of the country and help them all you want.

This country is not yours to give away to the world just because you hold the concept of the nation-state in disdain.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 28, 2016 08:06 PM (zc3Db)

240 It's simple - they showed up. It's one of those it's nobody's fault/it's everybody's fault things.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 07:59 PM (rznWS)

I agree...but they showed up as passive, peace lovers, who had the resources (cultural Marxism and the ability to make people feel guilty)and the media...and we trusted their "good intentions", and slowly, incrementally, they gained power, and now, they no longer have to act "nice" and the masks are off. What to do....what to do?

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 08:06 PM (aRUb8)

241 It is MEET, I think, for a free man or woman to sneer in disdain at the shackled slave.

It is RIGHT to recoil in horror when they lovingly EMBRACE their own shackles.

It is UNDERSTANDABLE to be baffled and disgusted by such (typically human) behavior and wish to recoil.

It is also IMPERATIVE that we do what little we can, to lift our brothers and sisters out of the filth of their slavery.

Not everyone, not all at once (that would be impossible) but where and when we can.

The poor will always be amongst us. The slavers and the slaved who would kill to protect the spiritual comfort of their subservience.

Posted by: Deety at April 28, 2016 08:06 PM (xPWMR)

242 chemjeff - I'm a little befuddled as to what you're getting at. You seem to be asking for specific examples of words you want others to define. I don't get it. Help.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 28, 2016 08:06 PM (dFi94)

243 Right up until the snowflakes get jobs working for the death panels. "You white reich-wing cis-normative h8er has lived long enough! Time for you to step aside for the good of the Collective!"

-----------------

Yeah, special snowflakes raised on participation trophy's and instant gratification VS a combat veteran. Time for me to step aside? Come make me, cupcake. (Not you, the snowflakes)

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 28, 2016 08:06 PM (kTF2Z)

244 The libertarian view of society is fundamentally broken. There's
something more to life than each of us doing what we individually want,
contract out everything else.

The problem with big L libertarianism, as I understand it, is that it makes the same fundamental assumption that Marxism does - that human behavior is at the bottom nothing about nothing but economics and that if we just get the system right everything will be perfect.

Took me decade or so to figure out why I could vehemently agree with the Libertarians about two-thirds of the time, and vehemently disagree with them the other third. It was because, while I agreed with their ideas of economics, I didn't think human behavior was so simple.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 28, 2016 08:07 PM (bZ7mE)

245 So what is my duty to my modern, 21st century suburban/urban community? Not the Wild West, no threat of Indian invasions. Be specific.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:03 PM (uAvJJ)

In the modern, 21st century, you pick your own community.

Or none at all.

So, whatever you want. Until this rotten system crashes down.

If you are concerned with surviving SHTF, I'd suggest building one.

In the meanwhile, you have your basic local government that provides a pseudo-community without the social network. Pay your taxes, don't be a nuisance to your neighbors, and have drivable streets.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:07 PM (uURQL)

246 Husband and I went to a nice place for dinner last week.

The place was crawling with young families of spoiled hell spawn from a certain private school (our son attended private school, but not this Special one).

First of all, there was a wait, and the middle-school aged kids were all sprawled all over a long bench, while elderly men and women stood nearby. The parents were into their cocktails and laughing and enjoying themselves. I would have knocked our son (and his friends) on the side of the head (I wouldn't have had to, but still) and said, "GET UP AND GIVE YOUR SEAT TO THESE PEOPLE!"

When husband and I were seated, there were two Special Couples with their Special Brats who allowed their brats to run all over the restaurant, servers nearly tripping on them.

I'm on the verge of giving up. So many of today's parents are brats themselves, raising brats.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 28, 2016 08:07 PM (FsuaD)

247

Who needs inspirational speeches when you already have Trumptard cultists?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:01 PM (uURQL)

************

How will a Trump call to arms speech go?

Trump: "You're going to be soooo sick of winning, believe me! Trump--I am crushing them in the polling, it's going to be yuuuuge, really terrific!"

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 08:07 PM (mcm0N)

248 DRAFT nood
Posted by: Skip at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (8BJMp)

You'll like this one, chemjeff. It's about purging Racists.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:08 PM (uURQL)

249 230 polling and media coverage of millennials is very unrepresentative. I say this as a millennial. Theres just a very loud group that's getting louder as they see there cause beginning to lose. Majority of millennials know to just keep quiet and wait until there in real world.
Posted by: Connor at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (1WcFV)

I'm glad you're here. Sometimes I think the age range of the commenters on this site skews towards us old coots.

And do see my link at #233. It provides a healthy dose of perspective.

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2016 08:08 PM (sdi6R)

250 https://tinyurl.com/js26cyp

Posted by: rickl at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (sdi6R)

Thanks rickl...I haven't heard of that book.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 08:08 PM (aRUb8)

251 polling and media coverage of millennials is very unrepresentative. I say this as a millennial. Theres just a very loud group that's getting louder as they see there cause beginning to lose. Majority of millennials know to just keep quiet and wait until there in real world.

Posted by: Connor at April 28, 2016 08:05 PM (1WcFV)

yes

I believe this

I also believe Harvard is not representative of your generation

just the people who will pretend to be your thought leaders

so denounce and reject them. Come out of the shadows when you can

Posted by: ThunderB at April 28, 2016 08:08 PM (zOTsN)

252 How many times would Trump refer to Trump in the third person while asking people to die for him, er the country?

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 08:08 PM (mcm0N)

253 >>>So what is my duty to my modern, 21st century suburban/urban community?<<<

Keep your rubbish and feces out of the streets. And pay your property tax if you know what's good for you.

Posted by: Fritz at April 28, 2016 08:09 PM (xO3C3)

254 Luuuke...I am your neighbor.....
Posted by: Darth Vader

I am not the neighbor that you're looking for.

Seriously, that voice carries for miles. I don't want to hear your everyday drama!

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 08:09 PM (+CKpi)

255 Sad, but the country as we knew it even 20 years ago is basically gone.

Still, there are good moments to be found. Just completed a 5k run/walk with my son. All proceeds benefit a scholarship fund of the family of a police officer who was murdered.

Ugly weather but about 500 participants, tons of volunteers and sponsors, and every single person I saw looked like someone you would love to have on your side if something unexpected and bad happened. About 600+ Todd Beamer types.

Posted by: RM at April 28, 2016 08:11 PM (U3LtS)

256 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:07 PM (uURQL)

But that is not what you advocate, is it? What do you think my duty to my community should be? And please specifically define "community".

Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:13 PM (uAvJJ)

257 "Just imagine your local community includes little illegal immigrant children, cj.

Can't you feel your heart expanding?

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:47 PM (m9LNi)"

Not wanting foreigners to die in squalor doesn't mean that I want to take care of them out of my own pocket.

"No cj, you have a duty, a moral obligation to your family and neighbors which you are free to heed or ignore at your discretion.

Posted by: Phone of kari at April 28, 2016 07:56 PM (m9LNi)"

Family? Sure, though there are limits. We all have worthless relatives, after all. Neighbors? If they're in peril, I suppose I can help them out of kindness, but not out of a sense of duty.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at April 28, 2016 08:14 PM (kumBu)

258 Hey, everybody--let's play a game of HORSE! If you vote for my friend Donald, who is not a Republican and hates Republicans just like me, you lose.

And if I win, Donald, who is more prepared than Washington, Jefferson or Eisenhower to be president, will nuke a small-to-medium size country!

Who's in?

Posted by: Coach "Suge" Knight at April 28, 2016 08:16 PM (Ndje9)

259 "How many times would Trump refer to Trump in the third person while asking people to die for him, er the country?

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 08:08 PM (mcm0N) "

Verily, I say that you will deny Trump three times before the cock crows. And for this you will be fired.

Hehe. Cock.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at April 28, 2016 08:16 PM (kumBu)

260 241
It is MEET, I think, for a free man or woman to sneer in disdain at the shackled slave.

It is RIGHT to recoil in horror when they lovingly EMBRACE their own shackles.

It is UNDERSTANDABLE to be baffled and disgusted by such (typically human) behavior and wish to recoil.

It is also IMPERATIVE that we do what little we can, to lift our brothers and sisters out of the filth of their slavery.

Not everyone, not all at once (that would be impossible) but where and when we can.

Posted by: Deety at April 28, 2016 08:06 PM (xPWMR)

I agree, and the only way to do that is by setting an example. It may be hand waved away by 8 out of 10 people, but that is the only thing that will change people. We're subject to the natural forces..basically, "monkey see...monkey do". Inspire those 2 out of 10 if you can. Incrementalism...it works for bad things, it should work for the good too.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 28, 2016 08:17 PM (aRUb8)

261 @238: "and please

this poll was taken at.......Harvard

yes that Harvard

not exactly representative"

All the more terrifying because it represents the mindset of the future leaders of the country, especially at the Federal level. The elites have theirs and they do not seek company. Aspen and St. Tropez for them; and extra beet ration for you, if you're lucky and keep your head down.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 08:19 PM (rznWS)

262 But that is not what you advocate, is it? What do you think my duty to my community should be? And please specifically define "community".
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:13 PM (uAvJJ)

*****

Why don't we save a lot of time and typing. What is YOUR definition of Community? We can move forward from there.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 28, 2016 08:20 PM (YLidQ)

263 How many times would Trump refer to Trump in the third person while asking people to die for him, er the country?

Posted by: Biden Is In The Ball Pit at April 28, 2016 08:08 PM (mcm0N)

That's pretty funny since Trump is one of the very, very few people on the political stage who shows any love for this country, at all. The rest of them are happy to give this nation away to the world or think we should be the world's doormat and dumping site. Trump stands up for this nation ... and you think he would have a problem in arguing for a defense of this nation's interests. Okie doke, there ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 28, 2016 08:21 PM (zc3Db)

264 As much as I hate to, I also attribute some of it to the child rearing of some of the Greatest Generation, particularly those that with the best of intentions didn't want their offspring to grow up suffering the privations of the Great Depression and WWII as they themselves had done.
Posted by: Country Singer at April 28, 2016 07:28 PM (GUBah)

^^^^!! True.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at April 28, 2016 08:21 PM (rbPBV)

265 @243: "Yeah, special snowflakes raised on participation trophy's and instant
gratification VS a combat veteran. Time for me to step aside? Come
make me, cupcake. (Not you, the snowflakes)"

The woods outside Katyn explain exactly how that scenario may well end. Dismiss them at your own risk.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 08:25 PM (rznWS)

266 @240: "What to do....what to do?"

When there is doubt, there is no doubt.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 08:26 PM (rznWS)

267 Why don't we save a lot of time and typing. What is YOUR definition of Community? We can move forward from there.
Posted by: Tim in GAl

We should all come together and think happy thoughts. That is a community.

Now if we only had some fvckin' food, and if people would walk a little farther from our utopia to shit. We'd be a REAL community! A community of happiness!

Posted by: Kubaya at April 28, 2016 08:26 PM (+CKpi)

268 But that is not what you advocate, is it? What do you think my duty to my community should be? And please specifically define "community".
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:13 PM (uAvJJ)

When I said pick your own community, how is that different from "what I advocate", chemjeff?

Community is the people you interact with. Neighbors, church people, physical friends.

I can't tell you what your specific duty is to them. A very close knit community has more duties to each other than a loosely knit community.

For a civilized community, there are too many duties to list - basic manners, watching out for the lost kid, don't litter, be respectful to the police ...

Are you looking for a gotcha in here?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:27 PM (uURQL)

269 Why don't we save a lot of time and typing. What is YOUR definition of Community? We can move forward from there.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 28, 2016 08:20 PM (YLidQ)

Nah, let him at it. This is how you hang him with his own words.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:28 PM (uURQL)

270 As much as I hate to, I also attribute some of it to the child rearing of some of the Greatest Generation, particularly those that with the best of intentions didn't want their offspring to grow up suffering the privations of the Great Depression and WWII as they themselves had done.
Posted by: Country Singer

Yet another conditioned response...

"I want my kids to have it better than me."

We never even saw it coming.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 28, 2016 08:29 PM (+CKpi)

271 Nah, let him at it. This is how you hang him with his own words.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 08:28 PM (uURQL)

*****

I was kinda trying to get him to do just that. Ixnay on the alktay about Communityay.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 28, 2016 08:31 PM (YLidQ)

272 266
@240: "What to do....what to do?"

When there is doubt, there is no doubt.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 28, 2016 08:26 PM (rznWS)

Deep man...Deep Stone cold groove, Daddy-O.
Dig it.

Posted by: Sal Paradise at April 28, 2016 08:41 PM (aRUb8)

273 @270: "We never even saw it coming."

You fucked up; you trusted us.

Posted by: The Statists at April 28, 2016 08:57 PM (rznWS)

274 A few years ago a friend and I went to watch his nephew play t-ball. I thought to myself this is how you raise a nation of wimps. I was right.

Posted by: JimK at April 28, 2016 09:24 PM (FmJ1+)

275 #19 Uh... http://goo.gl/OsaS2e

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 28, 2016 10:00 PM (Kucy5)

276 #274 Now be fair they were only 17...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 28, 2016 10:01 PM (Kucy5)

277 These delicate snowflakes are in for a big surprise when they learn the world doesn't deal in participation trophies.

You know, if it weren't for the multitude of existential problems of their own, China (demographics, economics) and Russia (oil, geography, demographics, economics) would probably be laughing their collective asses off at us.

Oh who am I kidding, they are indeed laughing their asses off at us. Think I'd better start learning Russian, Chinese is too damn hard. Never much cared for Vodka, though.

Posted by: DocJ at April 28, 2016 10:08 PM (5Nr9V)

278 Republicans are partly to blame for this. While liberals are brainwashing our young, Republicans are going along with Crony Capitalism while being paid-off by the same interests that own the DNC.

In the same poll that National Retard quotes, the Millennials say that they support free market entrepreneurial-ism.

It's not that they hate "your system". They hate YOU!

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 28, 2016 10:09 PM (kfoLf)

279 222: "Creating beauty locally to provide safety globally."... Who's the "tard"?

Posted by: jacke at April 28, 2016 10:18 PM (i8Shl)

280 In the same poll that National Retard quotes, the Millennials say that they support free market entrepreneurial-ism.

Sure, they all want to be the next Gates or Zuckerberg, just without the work, or smarts, or vision, or drive, or willingness to sacrifice or risk anything, especially failure.

In other words, they want their Participation Trophy to come with $1B in cash.

Posted by: DocJ at April 28, 2016 10:19 PM (5Nr9V)

281 280 That's close, but you miss the point. Sure they are lazy and without manhood. But WE contribute to it by being so God damned corrupt and unwilling to kick the commies out of our universities.

How are we ever gong to win over Millennials if we are just as bad as Hillary?

Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 28, 2016 10:24 PM (kfoLf)

282 @281 I was agreeing with you, but poorly expressing it.

Guilty as charged. I'm currently dropping $20K/year on State U for my first born who's majoring in English. The only upside is that she's applying to my company for a marketing internship and if she gets it she's almost a lock for a full-time gig when she graduates next May. That and she's a wiz with spreadsheets and organization because she takes after her mom.

Posted by: DocJ at April 28, 2016 10:33 PM (5Nr9V)

283 Good old Teddy said it best.

It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed. Theodore Roosevelt

Have hope. My 12 year old daughter who has crushing anxiety never gives up and doesn't quit. Hopefully this safe space generation is short lived.

Posted by: Gardenjilly at April 29, 2016 01:36 AM (N7dLB)

284 I can't possibly imagine why young people would dislike a system that, in its current form, has resulted in executive wages being 300 times as much as their own, the risk of failure not applying to those at the top (eg bailouts) and leaves them priced out of ever owning their own house.

Posted by: John Smith at April 29, 2016 06:33 AM (wOv+L)

285 Speaking as a millennial, I can tell you that in my circle of millennial friends/acquaintances/co-workers, not a single one is pro socialism. They're almost entirely a group of hard working people from a variety of backgrounds and beliefs(rich, poor, minority, feminist, fundamentalist Christian, agnostic etc.) and all they really want is the ability to work and succeed. That's it.

I realize that this is just anecdotal, but I really think the MSM/Liberals try to spin things to make us think that millennials are THEIR generation. It just ain't true.

Posted by: Inventive at April 29, 2016 09:24 AM (pnaDl)

286 Safe Spaces are an offensive weapons having nothing to do with risk avoidance.

Posted by: Dave Willmore at April 29, 2016 08:01 PM (D7R4y)

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