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Ted Cruz to Make His Big Announcement Within Minutes
In the meantime we can talk about Trump's foreign policy speech. Jonah Goldberg calls it "okay," but also wonders if Trump has any idea what some of the claims put into his mouth by writers might mean.
The major theme was "America First," which few can disagree with in broad strokes. Trouble is, most people say they're America first, even if they're not. Even Barack Obama, had you asked him in 2008, would have claimed to have been most interested in advancing American interests. The trouble is, people define "American interests" differently. Obama, obviously, thinks America will somehow benefit by being weak and passive. (He also thinks the world will benefit from this -- which is his real motivation. But he thinks America will benefit too. Just less than everyone else.) I suppose the general reminder that America should act in her own self-interests -- even if ruthlessly on occasion -- is a worthwhile thing to re-state.Trump opened his speech Wednesday vowing to "shake the rust off America's foreign policy" and said he would outline a vision for a U.S. foreign policy "that replaces randomness with purpose, ideology with strategy and chaos with peace." He added, "My foreign policy will always put the interests of the American people and American security first."Very platitudey, though I have to say, every platitude is somewhat different and appeals to a different mentality. Obama's "Smart Diplomacy" and "community of nations" is a platitude. But these two platitudes are obviously different, and signal, platitudinously, different things. I prefer Trump's platitudes, at least.
... He panned the Iran nuclear deal, a centerpiece of Obama's foreign policy, and claimed the President has "weakened our military by weakening our economy."Okay, read the whole article at CNN if you want more. He also said that Muslim-American cooperation "must be a two-way street," suggesting that it's not at the current moment. Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see the new tandem of Cruz and Fiorina.
And he sought to wrap former secretary of state Clinton in his criticism of the Obama administration, referring to the "legacy of the Obama-Clinton interventions" as one of "weakness, confusion and disarray." ...
"We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism," Trump said, explaining that he is skeptical of international agreements "that tie us up and bring America down."
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Ace, thanks for the kitteh!
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (6bMel)
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He's got the best platitudes.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (xuouz)
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Gender Ambiguous Cat Picture of the Day
Presenting to the public for the first time...
"Mx. Doughmuzzle Moonzephyr Questyon Meowrk Breadhalo"
Looks likeEgg Cat in a nest
Gender Ambiguous Cat Picture of the Day
Presenting to the public for the first time...
"Mx. Doughmuzzle Moonzephyr Questyon Meowrk Breadhalo"
Looks like
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (qCMvj)
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Trump has backtracked from some of his specific policy statements, so counting on his platitudes seems unwise.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (Zu3d9)
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I like Carly and I hope she does well for herself out of this cycle.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (xuouz)
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Yeah I'm waiting for it, I like it
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (8BJMp)
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I really like Gender Ambiguous Cat Picture of the Day
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (8BJMp)
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Drum roll, Clark..... "everyone make that stupid sound"...
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (zuTLp)
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I watched the speech. It basically consisted of two parts:
(i) a littany of all the Obama/Clinton foreign policy disasters; and
(B) his claims about how he would handle international relations.
The description of Obama/Clinton incompetence was eviscerating.
The part about how he'd do better was the same old Trumpernutter.
(i) a littany of all the Obama/Clinton foreign policy disasters; and
(B) his claims about how he would handle international relations.
The description of Obama/Clinton incompetence was eviscerating.
The part about how he'd do better was the same old Trumpernutter.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (1xUj/)
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So People.What will Trump do to stop the Global warming brought on by that criminal BUSH after Presdet Obona leaves office???????? The children will have a polluted world lft to then because of Bush polices.. People yew needs too get with it !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (NuElX)
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*might just stay in the gay pedophile thread
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (/CXhS)
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WHEN WILL TRUMP GIVE US HIS PLAN FOR PUTTING US ALL IN THE CAMPS!!!
Posted by: The Hysterical Sally Kohn at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (YFFpo)
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He's got my vote, if nominated.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (TJCSB)
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Wango Tango
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (3ZtZW)
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It's platitudinous all the waaaay down, down.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (mcm0N)
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Let's just say I'm not going to buy that The Donald believes anything that was fed to him to read in a teleprompter. He contradicts his speech in 3...2...1...
Whatever. Still not voting for him.
Cruz's move strikes me as desperate, not sure what it will accomplish at this time. (These are desperate times, I guess.) Nevertheless, I think Carly will be an excellent counter to the Grandmonster.
Whatever. Still not voting for him.
Cruz's move strikes me as desperate, not sure what it will accomplish at this time. (These are desperate times, I guess.) Nevertheless, I think Carly will be an excellent counter to the Grandmonster.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (6bMel)
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The description of Obama/Clinton incompetence was eviscerating.
The part about how he'd do better was the same old Trumpernutter.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (1xUj/)
Step one and then step two, baby. What did you think of him on the teleprompter? Any more presidential? I thought he was good at AIPAC.
The part about how he'd do better was the same old Trumpernutter.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (1xUj/)
Step one and then step two, baby. What did you think of him on the teleprompter? Any more presidential? I thought he was good at AIPAC.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (xuouz)
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Remember, according to Trump's own campaign advisers, this is all an act on the part of Trump.
Whether the act is his new "presidential" look, or the old "in-your-face bully" look, is not clear.
Whether the act is his new "presidential" look, or the old "in-your-face bully" look, is not clear.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (dpnZC)
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11 *might just stay in the gay pedophile thread
Posted by: RWC - Team
Odd to think that a pedomthread looks to be nicer..l
11 *might just stay in the gay pedophile thread
Posted by: RWC - Team
Odd to think that a pedomthread looks to be nicer..l
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (zuTLp)
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Trump is our Obama. He speaks in platitudes and people are free to interpret his words to mean whatever they want.
Worked our real well for us last time so YOLO baby!
Worked our real well for us last time so YOLO baby!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (/tuJf)
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I'm conflicted, talk about the post or the new gender curious cat in the sidebar......
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (F6/Mp)
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Side note: Gov Pence is actively trying to lose re-election by not endorsing.
It doesn't matter who you pick.....but at least pick someone! Show guts, show conviction.
Tepid applause at Cruz's announcement.....yeah this should win him Indiana.
It doesn't matter who you pick.....but at least pick someone! Show guts, show conviction.
Tepid applause at Cruz's announcement.....yeah this should win him Indiana.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (F5hTl)
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"Smart Diplomacy" and "community of nations" are platitudes signifying nothing. Except perhaps low intelligence and lack of worldliness.
Platitudes about American strength, moral power, and responsibility may be platitudes, but connect to some reality at some level. Sometimes, in fact, the platitude and the reality are pretty close - such is the nature of modern history and esp. the nature of much of America's involvement (in particular since WWII).
Platitudes about American strength, moral power, and responsibility may be platitudes, but connect to some reality at some level. Sometimes, in fact, the platitude and the reality are pretty close - such is the nature of modern history and esp. the nature of much of America's involvement (in particular since WWII).
Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (QDnY+)
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Platitudes are weird. Duck-billed egg-laying mammals with webbed feet and a beaver tail? Just ain't right.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (0mRoj)
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What did you think of him on the teleprompter? Any more presidential?
Yes, I did find him quite more presidential, especially through the descriptive phase.
Yes, I did find him quite more presidential, especially through the descriptive phase.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (1xUj/)
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Um, read from a teleprompter, not in a teleprompter. Unless the Donald had a special custom made luxurious, terrific Trump teleprompter made.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (6bMel)
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Barack Obama sucks a fat one! And he likes it! Hillary Clinton blows goats! Ask Huma!
*Makes orchestra baton motion with hand out of time with whatever he's saying*
That's not gonna happen with me in office, folks. Not gonna happen, folks.
*Makes orchestra baton motion with hand out of time with whatever he's saying*
That's not gonna happen with me in office, folks. Not gonna happen, folks.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (xuouz)
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Is that cat's head poking out of a piece of wheat bread?
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (dFi94)
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Be back when the bile is flowing faster.... still have perv songs to remember...
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (zuTLp)
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@16
the Carly VP slot won't be a drop in the bucket in Indiana.
Bob Knight? That will do some damage.
the Carly VP slot won't be a drop in the bucket in Indiana.
Bob Knight? That will do some damage.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (F5hTl)
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28 It better be whole grain gluten free!
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (B48dK)
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If we are to judge by recent history, Trump should do OK. He is running the exact same platform as obama did in 2008, he would do the opposite of what Bush did. Trump is running the same campaign.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (iONHu)
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Is Cruz being fashionably late like Obama?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (vvmPQ)
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I am a krispy kreme!
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (F6/Mp)
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Sorry to go off topic, but a Fox story is that Will Ferrell is going to play Ronald Reagan in his 2nd term as he begins to deal with dementia, which of course is the standard pablum of the left.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (hqZPQ)
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If elected, I promise to send all millennials to Trump University.
Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (TJCSB)
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Has Donald mentioned Carly's face yet? That was a shrewd move.
Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (UzPAd)
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Kitty gluten.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (k4M/B)
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OK so no more Platitudes. Go back to Divisiveness.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (3ZtZW)
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These platitudes aren't underage, are they?
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (0mRoj)
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WE HATE TRUMP!! TRUMP LIED TO OUR PRESDENT OF COLOR AND THAT IS A CRIME !!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (NuElX)
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@35
I actually like this, only because I would love to see Will Ferrell doing some dramatic acting.
I actually like this, only because I would love to see Will Ferrell doing some dramatic acting.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (F5hTl)
Posted by: Some Dude at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (qul7b)
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America First was Charles Lindbergh's--first.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (mcm0N)
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Kitty gluten.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (k4M/B)
If I upset vegans and liberals, will you feed me?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (k4M/B)
If I upset vegans and liberals, will you feed me?
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (F6/Mp)
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35 Oh,I am sure it will be super respectful.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (B48dK)
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I could vote for Cruz/Carly. I would get in my car for that.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (dFi94)
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So how old do you think that blonde over Cruz's left shoulder is? Just want to know if I have to report to perv camp.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Inigo Montoya at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (WBahS)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (qCMvj)
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It's all an act for everyone. Once his guns are trained on people who deserve it again (when it was Jeb, Marco, Lindsey, etc everybody was like "I could get onboard), on the left, it'll be a breath of fresh air.
Internecine fighting sucks. Doesn't change the fact that Trump is the perfect candidate for 2016 America.
Stop. Grading. On. Style. Points. And let's win this election.
Internecine fighting sucks. Doesn't change the fact that Trump is the perfect candidate for 2016 America.
Stop. Grading. On. Style. Points. And let's win this election.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (xuouz)
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It is not that Trump is all that wonderful it is that the last two Presidential terms have set the bar very low indeed for someone to be better than what we have now or than the Secretary of State who helped craft the current world situation.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (MpvuV)
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Trump is our Obama. He speaks in platitudes and people are free to interpret his words to mean whatever they want.
Worked our real well for us last time so YOLO baby!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (/tuJf)
Yep, he is the Orange Obama in so many ways, which I won't get into now, partly because my laptop is still banned and I HATE TYPING ON MY PHONE. Sigh.
I don't vote for Obamas. Anyway, he's not gonna win PA so my non-vote doesn't matter.
Worked our real well for us last time so YOLO baby!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (/tuJf)
Yep, he is the Orange Obama in so many ways, which I won't get into now, partly because my laptop is still banned and I HATE TYPING ON MY PHONE. Sigh.
I don't vote for Obamas. Anyway, he's not gonna win PA so my non-vote doesn't matter.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (6bMel)
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The Carly nomination does have the reek of desperation to it, sadly.
If Trump solidifies the nomination, the next strategic argument will be whether the GOP should only give him pro forma support while allowing as many defections from his platform as possible among the members of Congress that are running -- the thinking being that if Trump does down to a 40+ state landslide, that perhaps Congress might be saved.
If Trump solidifies the nomination, the next strategic argument will be whether the GOP should only give him pro forma support while allowing as many defections from his platform as possible among the members of Congress that are running -- the thinking being that if Trump does down to a 40+ state landslide, that perhaps Congress might be saved.
Posted by: Revenant at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (y64uP)
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Jesus you guys, sorry I only have one speed, I blacked out there for a second.
Where's everyone going for the Cruz/Fiorina announcement? Is there video?
Where's everyone going for the Cruz/Fiorina announcement? Is there video?
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (qCMvj)
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I live in Hamilton County, IN. NE side of Indy - Noblesville/Fishers/Carmel are the population areas. Affluent suburb, moderate GOP hotbed. Important county for any candidate to win next week.
While its anecdotal, I've been driving around the last week or so and road/yard signs for all races have sprung up like bad weeds. Of the presidential candidate signs around the county I've seen a good number of Kasich, even after the "Deal" and about the same amount of Trump. I have yet to see one sign for Cruz.
If Cruz wants to win in Indiana, it's places like this he has to compete, or hope he gets enough vote in rural areas to make up the difference - though trump probably will play well in them too. Road/yard signs aren't everything but it does show an issue if I see 500 for state representative and none for him even at stoplights.
While its anecdotal, I've been driving around the last week or so and road/yard signs for all races have sprung up like bad weeds. Of the presidential candidate signs around the county I've seen a good number of Kasich, even after the "Deal" and about the same amount of Trump. I have yet to see one sign for Cruz.
If Cruz wants to win in Indiana, it's places like this he has to compete, or hope he gets enough vote in rural areas to make up the difference - though trump probably will play well in them too. Road/yard signs aren't everything but it does show an issue if I see 500 for state representative and none for him even at stoplights.
Posted by: Doc at April 27, 2016 04:19 PM (Vgl4t)
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> Gender Ambiguous Cat Picture of the Day
The only way any cat I know would put up with that would be with a sardine in the next few seconds...
The only way any cat I know would put up with that would be with a sardine in the next few seconds...
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (IQI2h)
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Afternoon, y'all.
Politicians gonna politician. That's what they do.
They're all in it for one thing...themselves.
Politicians gonna politician. That's what they do.
They're all in it for one thing...themselves.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (+eR2D)
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Unban le chique d'afrique s'il vous plait.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (xuouz)
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Yeah this is a great move to put forth an imaginary VP for an imaginary win.
This is going to work just as well as the collusion with Katshit.
All of this makes me think old Ted is a bit out of touch...and scary. Do we want someone like this to have his finger on the button? I see some great DEMOCRAT ad coming out.
This is going to work just as well as the collusion with Katshit.
All of this makes me think old Ted is a bit out of touch...and scary. Do we want someone like this to have his finger on the button? I see some great DEMOCRAT ad coming out.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now R to VOTE TRUMP in Californiaeregistered at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (AhyHb)
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If elected, I promise to send all millennials to Trump University.
Tell ya what, send 'em to Parris Island instead. I'll consider allowing the survivors to vote.
Tell ya what, send 'em to Parris Island instead. I'll consider allowing the survivors to vote.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (D0J8L)
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (B48dK)
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Has the Carly thing started yet?
Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (JBggj)
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Platitudes? It's all ANY politician has during a campaign.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (Fmupd)
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That gender ambiguous cat looks really high.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (mf5HN)
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I heard Carly on a Philadelphia talk radio station a month ago. She was doing a good job attacking Trump
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (8BJMp)
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Stop. Grading. On. Style. Points. And let's win this election.
Can we grade on substance points, like his personal character? How about his business history, is that fair game?
Can we grade on substance points, like his personal character? How about his business history, is that fair game?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (dpnZC)
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>>>Jonah Goldberg calls it "okay," but also wonders if Trump has any idea what some of the claims put into his mouth by writers might mean.<<<
I thought Peanut... er, I mean... Donald sounded totally sincere in his deeply held beliefs.
I thought Peanut... er, I mean... Donald sounded totally sincere in his deeply held beliefs.
Posted by: Jeff Dunham at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (H9MG5)
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oh for the love of pete
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (dFi94)
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In a big announcement, the White Star Line declares new deck-chair arrangements.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (ppaKI)
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This has all the excitement of a good teeth cleaning.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (/tuJf)
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Plus arms. Politicians have arms.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (3ZtZW)
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If he had been tethered to a teleprompter all this time, I would probably still be planning to reluctantly support him in the general. But I don't think his fans would be too happy with that, as he has said himself.
Anyway, I'm happy we've gotten to see Donnie Gone Wild so no-one will be able to say they weren't warned.
Anyway, I'm happy we've gotten to see Donnie Gone Wild so no-one will be able to say they weren't warned.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (6bMel)
Posted by: The Demoncrat Machine at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (qul7b)
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Road/yard signs aren't everything but it does show an issue if I see 500 for state representative and none for him even at stoplights.
Posted by: Doc
I'm in Hendricks county and I've seen one Bernie sign, one Cruz sign and one Trump sign.
Road/yard signs aren't everything but it does show an issue if I see 500 for state representative and none for him even at stoplights.
Posted by: Doc
I'm in Hendricks county and I've seen one Bernie sign, one Cruz sign and one Trump sign.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (k4M/B)
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Jonah Goldberg calls it "okay,"
a lot of people had positive things to say
I didn't get to hear it.
a lot of people had positive things to say
I didn't get to hear it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (qCMvj)
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@57
Love that area of town, and have relation up there.
96th street and Lantern
I am from SW Indiana, and I have yet to see anything but local signs up. How do you think this plays up in your neck of the woods? I don't think this makes a difference in my area.
Love that area of town, and have relation up there.
96th street and Lantern
I am from SW Indiana, and I have yet to see anything but local signs up. How do you think this plays up in your neck of the woods? I don't think this makes a difference in my area.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (F5hTl)
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I'm watching on iPhone, it's pretty good.
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (sj3Ax)
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The only way any cat I know would put up with that would be with a sardine in the next few seconds...
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (IQI2h)
My head has gone many places. Exploring is what I do best.
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (IQI2h)
My head has gone many places. Exploring is what I do best.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (F6/Mp)
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With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, I can say going into Iraq was YUUUUUUGE mistake. Trump happened to think that at the time was correct. I did not agree with him then but I have to now.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now R to VOTE TRUMP in Californiaeregistered at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (AhyHb)
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Cruz is introducing her now. She's not up yet.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (1xUj/)
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And you will!
For another week or so.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (3ZtZW)
we'll see
For another week or so.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (3ZtZW)
we'll see
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (qCMvj)
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I can feel the excitement. This will put Cruz/Fiorina over the top!
Posted by: Joe Mama at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (t9SwN)
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DOEAS ANYONE KNOW WHERN PRESDENT OBAMA WILL ANNOUNCE THAT "GAY PRIDE DAY" IS NOW A NATTIONALS HOLLIDAY ???
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (NuElX)
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Off sock
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 04:23 PM (Fmupd)
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He panned the Iran nuclear deal, a centerpiece of Obama's foreign policy, and claimed the President has "weakened our military by weakening our economy."
In fairness, Barry has also weakened our military by weakening our military.
In fairness, Barry has also weakened our military by weakening our military.
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 04:23 PM (evdj2)
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Mu foreign policies has 3 pillars : 1) America First, 2) Strengthening our military, and 3) Destroying competing hotels.
Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at April 27, 2016 04:23 PM (TJCSB)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (qCMvj)
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Unban le chique d'afrique s'il vous plait.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (xuouz)
Thanks. It was an inadvertent ban but I would really love to be able to post from my computer and using Wi-Fi on my phone.
It has been a hard trial.
Sigh.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (xuouz)
Thanks. It was an inadvertent ban but I would really love to be able to post from my computer and using Wi-Fi on my phone.
It has been a hard trial.
Sigh.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (6bMel)
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Does Fiorina put California in play?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (hqZPQ)
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Once again, when it comes to Trump, the issue isn't really about whether going into Iraq was a mistake or not. I think reasonable people can come to a legitimate honest disagreement on that issue. No, when it comes to Trump, it's the fact that he adopted the Code Pink narrative of "Bush lied us into war" nonsense.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (dpnZC)
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (F5hTl)
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Name fail. But I have re-registered to the republican party to vote for Trump out here in Kalifornia.
Trump added a person here.
Trump added a person here.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (AhyHb)
97
I have Andrew Mccarthy's article open to read later on trump speech.
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2016 04:25 PM (sj3Ax)
98
These gender ambiguous cat pictures add a chuckle to the sidebar content. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:25 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 27, 2016 04:25 PM (ppaKI)
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At first, I read "unban" using French pronunciation, LOL.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:25 PM (6bMel)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 04:25 PM (Zu3d9)
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@93: "Does Fiorina put California in play?"
In the general election? Absolutely not.
In the primary? I'd say she's a net negative for Cruz.
In the general election? Absolutely not.
In the primary? I'd say she's a net negative for Cruz.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:26 PM (21hN3)
103
@79... I've lived here less than a year, so I'm still learning a bit about Indiana politics. But my job has afforded me the ability to meet local/state political leaders on both sides. Bureaucrats and aides more than the elected people so far. The party big-wigs I met about 3-4 weeks ago were all behind Kasich, so I'm not surprised some of them have shrugged at the "deal" between Cruz and Kasich - they saw Cruz and Trump as the same kind of cancer.
Posted by: Doc at April 27, 2016 04:26 PM (Vgl4t)
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82 With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, I can say going into Iraq was YUUUUUUGE mistake. Trump happened to think that at the time was correct. I did not agree with him then but I have to now.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now R to VOTE TRUMP in Californiaeregistered at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (AhyHb)
I opposed it at the time because I strongly suspected we wouldn't do what it would take to win it. Just based on history, really, since it's been one piss poor effort after another since the end of WWII.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now R to VOTE TRUMP in Californiaeregistered at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (AhyHb)
I opposed it at the time because I strongly suspected we wouldn't do what it would take to win it. Just based on history, really, since it's been one piss poor effort after another since the end of WWII.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 27, 2016 04:26 PM (4ErVI)
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>>>a lot of people had positive things to say
I didn't get to hear it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (qCMvj)<<<
A lot of people, I mean, I'm hearing this... people are telling me it was a terrific speech. Just brilliant. They, not me, they are saying it was one of the best policy speeches they've heard in a long time. In fact, some people, some really, truly smart people are saying it was the best speech ever given, and that Lincoln is rolling over in his grave that he didn't give this speech at Gettysburg. Great!
I didn't get to hear it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:22 PM (qCMvj)<<<
A lot of people, I mean, I'm hearing this... people are telling me it was a terrific speech. Just brilliant. They, not me, they are saying it was one of the best policy speeches they've heard in a long time. In fact, some people, some really, truly smart people are saying it was the best speech ever given, and that Lincoln is rolling over in his grave that he didn't give this speech at Gettysburg. Great!
Posted by: D. Trump at April 27, 2016 04:26 PM (H9MG5)
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But I have re-registered to the republican party to vote for Trump out here in Kalifornia.
Trump added a person here.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (AhyHb)
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That's very nice. Bless your heart.
Trump added a person here.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (AhyHb)
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That's very nice. Bless your heart.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:26 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:26 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 04:26 PM (Fmupd)
109
Kitty McBreadhalo wears only gluten-free organic bread, naturally
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:27 PM (39g3+)
110
I like Carly, she has great claws, but Cruz's nose has me interested. I choose both genders!
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:27 PM (F6/Mp)
111
Breadcat regards us peasants with favor.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 04:27 PM (uURQL)
112
ith the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, I can say going into Iraq was YUUUUUUGE mistake.
You seem concerned.
You seem concerned.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:27 PM (39g3+)
113
While I'm still holding out hope, I'm afraid I'll look at this as what might have been.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:27 PM (gmeXX)
114
Cruz is not my guy. I had to turn it off, he comes across as too preachy.
And this is a girl who likes to go to church.
And this is a girl who likes to go to church.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (Z56vq)
115
The last 6 months have made me extraordinarily sympathetic toward the lefties in my life and their frustrations with me and my polemical style.
Conservatives are absolutely unbearable once they've chosen the right wrong idea to cling to.
Conservatives are absolutely unbearable once they've chosen the right wrong idea to cling to.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (qCMvj)
117
Maybe yard signs are a thing of the past. I don't see any around Charlotte but most HOAs ban them to begin with
Posted by: NCKate at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (O46jc)
118
I suspect Kasich scuttled his deal with Cruz after he caught wind of the impending VP announcement. Seems obvious that Kasich's been holding out for a joint ticket with Cruz at the convention, but it seems that Teddy had different ideas.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (21hN3)
119
I remember when McCain chose Palin for veep and I went whaaaa.. Carly/ Palin may be comparable acts to inject life into dead campaigns, I hope it works for Cruz.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (zuTLp)
120
Cruz is not my guy. I had to turn it off, he comes across as too preachy.
And this is a girl who likes to go to church.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (Z56vq)
Well your not an old cat lady who I'd hang out with anyway.
And this is a girl who likes to go to church.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (Z56vq)
Well your not an old cat lady who I'd hang out with anyway.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (F6/Mp)
Posted by: Paladin at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (hGShP)
122
If Cruz and Fiorina made a baby child it would be ugly. Real ugly.
Or, maybe they would make a pretty baby child...sometimes that happens when people who look like them mate.
Or, maybe they would make a pretty baby child...sometimes that happens when people who look like them mate.
Posted by: ajmojo at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (1H9ox)
123
18 Remember, according to Trump's own campaign advisers, this is all an act on the part of Trump.
Whether the act is his new "presidential" look, or the old "in-your-face bully" look, is not clear.
Posted by: chemjeff
Also remember that we already know which Clinton we will get. No question marks there.
No what ifs or what ands anymore after yesterday. Shit just got real.
Whether the act is his new "presidential" look, or the old "in-your-face bully" look, is not clear.
Posted by: chemjeff
Also remember that we already know which Clinton we will get. No question marks there.
No what ifs or what ands anymore after yesterday. Shit just got real.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (+CKpi)
124
I like Ted, but stfu about "The Great Principles of Bullies".
Posted by: Infrequent Commenter at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (00nj4)
125
Is that cat's head poking out of a piece of wheat bread?
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (dFi94)
Nay. Bread and cat are one.
Hail breadcat.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:16 PM (dFi94)
Nay. Bread and cat are one.
Hail breadcat.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 04:30 PM (uURQL)
126
I had to turn it off, he comes across as too preachy.
And this is a girl who likes to go to church.
You, too, sound concerned.
There's a lot of that around these days.
And this is a girl who likes to go to church.
You, too, sound concerned.
There's a lot of that around these days.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:30 PM (39g3+)
127
Speaking of teeth cleaning (scroll up), the charming young lady who handled the dental hygienist role today was rather well endowed. As in had to reach around them to avoid putting my eye out.
As if I would have complained.
As if I would have complained.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (C9pBZ)
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Or, maybe they would make a pretty baby child...sometimes that happens when people who look like them mate.
Posted by: ajmojo at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (1H9ox)
Have you seen pictures of Chelsea Clinton? No way he's Bill's. She haunts my nightmares....
Posted by: ajmojo at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (1H9ox)
Have you seen pictures of Chelsea Clinton? No way he's Bill's. She haunts my nightmares....
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (F6/Mp)
129
Now we wait for Trump to trash Carly again.
Can he hold his tongue?
I hope when he does he's punching back because Carly got in good shots today.
Please, Ted, quit introducing her and let her roar.
Can he hold his tongue?
I hope when he does he's punching back because Carly got in good shots today.
Please, Ted, quit introducing her and let her roar.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (1xUj/)
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Okay. This is a play to diminish Trump's 5-state primary sweep and to steal time from Trump's foreign-policy speech.
But everyone knows that, anyway. Thanks for watching!
But everyone knows that, anyway. Thanks for watching!
Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (JBggj)
131
I'm sick to death of all of them and I don't want any of them in the Oval Office.
Can we get a do over?
Can we get a do over?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (/tuJf)
132
Pathetic. Complete and utterly.
Cruz ran a superb campaign till about Dec then he started getting weird with Beck.
Cruz ran a superb campaign till about Dec then he started getting weird with Beck.
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (WBahS)
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:30 PM (39g3+)
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You sound very, very concerned about concerned people.
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You sound very, very concerned about concerned people.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (NUqwG)
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> because my laptop is still banned and I HATE TYPING ON MY PHONE. Sigh.
Try deleting "acecomments.mu.nu" from your browser cookies.
Try deleting "acecomments.mu.nu" from your browser cookies.
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (IQI2h)
135
Platitudes are good for people of your convictions--but they don't persuade.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (mcm0N)
136
TFG thinks America acting to preserve it's interests abroad hurts the world, because other countries have to fall in line and do what we tell them, so he's pulling back from that role. He doesn't care that his policy leads to greater death and destruction all over the place.
Trump thinks America needs to pull back from the world, because other countries aren't pulling their weight and we end up getting entangled in disputes that don't concern us all over the place. He doesn't care that his policy leads to greater death and destruction all over the place.
I'm struggling, again, to see the substantive difference between Trump and Obama. I think they are very alike.
Trump thinks America needs to pull back from the world, because other countries aren't pulling their weight and we end up getting entangled in disputes that don't concern us all over the place. He doesn't care that his policy leads to greater death and destruction all over the place.
I'm struggling, again, to see the substantive difference between Trump and Obama. I think they are very alike.
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (LISuA)
137
@103
Well, welcome to Indiana!
I'm not sure I can help you much, because there are so many facets to Indiana politics...there's the Region and Indy, and Southern Indiana.
If anyone knows the map to politically winning Indiana, they're lying, because there's no one route to winning Indiana.
But, Bobby Knight is a dang good route.
Well, welcome to Indiana!
I'm not sure I can help you much, because there are so many facets to Indiana politics...there's the Region and Indy, and Southern Indiana.
If anyone knows the map to politically winning Indiana, they're lying, because there's no one route to winning Indiana.
But, Bobby Knight is a dang good route.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:31 PM (F5hTl)
138
I can't wait for more people to chime in about how big a mistake going into Iraq was. Makes my day, it does. Especially seeing that I saw my son a couple of months out of 7 years because of it. Yes, yes. All for naught. Everything he did was worthless. The men he served with - chumps for volunteering to go over there. Heck, they should have stayed home and fought the war on the internet. You know, the place where everyone knows everything. At least he came home. Some of them didn't you know. Worthless deaths. Wasted lives.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (dFi94)
139
You sound very, very concerned about concerned people.
I am concerned about how concerned you sound about my concern about...
wait, where was I?
I am concerned about how concerned you sound about my concern about...
wait, where was I?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (39g3+)
140
Maybe yard signs are a thing of the past. I don't see any around Charlotte but most HOAs ban them to begin with
Posted by: NCKate
Too much rage. Bumper stickers also are a thing of the past.
Vandalism killed that type of campaigning.
Posted by: NCKate
Too much rage. Bumper stickers also are a thing of the past.
Vandalism killed that type of campaigning.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (+CKpi)
Posted by: Jeb ! at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (gs8be)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Horatio Caine at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (evdj2)
144
I can recall - back when ace was Trump-curious - that the concern was that Trump was only polling at 30-35%. Would he be able to reach beyond his core and get wider support? Now he is getting above 50% - even up past 60%. Not just in this election or that, but also in national polls. So, I guess that "concern" has been alleviated.
Now, the problem is that he is a politician mouthing platitudes. Not those specifies that made him popular with some, but would also make other turn against him.
So I guess Cruz is the guy who is known to never speak in platitudes. He is the guy that is always specific, right? And yet, he rarely gets over that 30% mark. Sometimes less. 30% in a 3 man race instead of 30% in a 16 person race. That's a better candidate?
Now, the problem is that he is a politician mouthing platitudes. Not those specifies that made him popular with some, but would also make other turn against him.
So I guess Cruz is the guy who is known to never speak in platitudes. He is the guy that is always specific, right? And yet, he rarely gets over that 30% mark. Sometimes less. 30% in a 3 man race instead of 30% in a 16 person race. That's a better candidate?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (R+30W)
145
Can he hold his tongue?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (qCMvj)
Has Trump ever held his tongue? ;^)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (qCMvj)
Has Trump ever held his tongue? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (w4NZ8)
146
Come on in, Carly. What? I told her it was today.
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (Fmupd)
147
This level of concern is concerning me as well...
*shifty eyes*
*shifty eyes*
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: mrp at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (JBggj)
149
Okay. This is a play to diminish Trump's 5-state primary sweep and to steal time from Trump's foreign-policy speech.
But everyone knows that, anyway. Thanks for watching!
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I'd say there are 3 hopes from this development.
1. Steal media oxygen from Trump's victory last night.
2. Have her play in CA.
3. Hope for a Trump overreaction that plays poorly or gives people some cause - particularly in IN (midwestern manners and all).
But everyone knows that, anyway. Thanks for watching!
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I'd say there are 3 hopes from this development.
1. Steal media oxygen from Trump's victory last night.
2. Have her play in CA.
3. Hope for a Trump overreaction that plays poorly or gives people some cause - particularly in IN (midwestern manners and all).
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (gmeXX)
150
So, it's official? Carly is Cruz's VP?
Not that it probably will matter...I think it's too late for anything to change.
Not that it probably will matter...I think it's too late for anything to change.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (+eR2D)
151
The press will have a ball with Fiorina. Remember their fun with Palin? And that woman Pub they called Cruella DeVille? Who was that anyway...?
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (zuTLp)
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I am concerned about how concerned you sound about my concern about...
wait, where was I?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (39g3+)
This is easy to fix. Stop caring about humans.
wait, where was I?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (39g3+)
This is easy to fix. Stop caring about humans.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (F6/Mp)
153
I remember when McCain chose Palin for veep and I went whaaaa.. Carly/ Palin may be comparable acts to inject life into dead campaigns, I hope it works for Cruz.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (zuTLp)
Difference is that McCain picked Palin after getting the GOP nom and prepping for the GE. Palin fired up the GOP base.
Cruz is banking on Trump failing to clinch the GOP nom. Failed HP CEO isn't going to undo millions of popular votes already in Trump's favor.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM (zuTLp)
Difference is that McCain picked Palin after getting the GOP nom and prepping for the GE. Palin fired up the GOP base.
Cruz is banking on Trump failing to clinch the GOP nom. Failed HP CEO isn't going to undo millions of popular votes already in Trump's favor.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (uURQL)
154
I can't wait for more people to chime in about how big a mistake going into Iraq was.
Yeah, the rewriting of history is strong these days. Its very sickening watching how many on the right are slurping up the leftist lies about that entire event. It wasn't even that long ago.
Yeah, the rewriting of history is strong these days. Its very sickening watching how many on the right are slurping up the leftist lies about that entire event. It wasn't even that long ago.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
155
Kill all humans
Posted by: Bender at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (evdj2)
156
I was kind of hoping that Cruz was going to pack it in this afternoon.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (Z56vq)
157
big announcement carley is going to let ted cruz wear her dress!
Posted by: carley at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (r9nfq)
158
This doesn't concern you!
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (xuouz)
159
Mu foreign policies has 3 pillars : 1) America First, 2) Strengthening our military, and 3) Destroying competing hotels.
Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at April 27, 2016 04:23 PM (TJCSB)
Apparently,Donnie complained about ISIS getting all the great real estate, even building a hotel, in Syria and not paying any interest. Even though he would have has to pay interest when he builds his hotels.
He said, "they've become rich. I'm in competition with them."
Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at April 27, 2016 04:23 PM (TJCSB)
Apparently,Donnie complained about ISIS getting all the great real estate, even building a hotel, in Syria and not paying any interest. Even though he would have has to pay interest when he builds his hotels.
He said, "they've become rich. I'm in competition with them."
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (6bMel)
160
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (dFi94)
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Since we went into Iraq and many people sacrificed, it is unacceptable to conclude that going in was a mistake?
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Since we went into Iraq and many people sacrificed, it is unacceptable to conclude that going in was a mistake?
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (NUqwG)
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>>>>>I can recall - back when ace was Trump-curious - that the concern was
that Trump was only polling at 30-35%. Would he be able to reach beyond
his core and get wider support? Now he is getting above 50% - even up
past 60%. Not just in this election or that, but also in national polls.
So, I guess that "concern" has been alleviated.
Now, the
problem is that he is a politician mouthing platitudes. Not those
specifies that made him popular with some, but would also make other
turn against him.
So I guess Cruz is the guy who is known to
never speak in platitudes. He is the guy that is always specific, right?
And yet, he rarely gets over that 30% mark. Sometimes less. 30% in a 3
man race instead of 30% in a 16 person race. That's a better candidate?
.
.
.
.
.Oh come on now, that it is so yesterday. Now it is Trump's unfavorables. Do try and keep up won't you?
that Trump was only polling at 30-35%. Would he be able to reach beyond
his core and get wider support? Now he is getting above 50% - even up
past 60%. Not just in this election or that, but also in national polls.
So, I guess that "concern" has been alleviated.
Now, the
problem is that he is a politician mouthing platitudes. Not those
specifies that made him popular with some, but would also make other
turn against him.
So I guess Cruz is the guy who is known to
never speak in platitudes. He is the guy that is always specific, right?
And yet, he rarely gets over that 30% mark. Sometimes less. 30% in a 3
man race instead of 30% in a 16 person race. That's a better candidate?
.
.
.
.
.Oh come on now, that it is so yesterday. Now it is Trump's unfavorables. Do try and keep up won't you?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (iONHu)
162
To top Cruz Trump will pick a hot babe for VP.With big funbags.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
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@93 Does Fiorina put California in play?
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In the general?
This is California you're asking about. Zombie Reagan with his 1984 statistics probably couldn't put California into play these days.
In the primary?
She's already won a state-wide primary here once, so it's possible. Can't say for sure.
She might also help nation-wide in the primary, though. Her initial debate performance got a lot of positive attention (which is why she was invited to the "big kids debate" on the subsequent debates). And while she obviously wasn't the candidate of choice for a lot of people (given how she did in the primaries), a lot of people still seem to have ranked her quite high (just not in first place) based on the things I heard back when she was still running.
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In the general?
This is California you're asking about. Zombie Reagan with his 1984 statistics probably couldn't put California into play these days.
In the primary?
She's already won a state-wide primary here once, so it's possible. Can't say for sure.
She might also help nation-wide in the primary, though. Her initial debate performance got a lot of positive attention (which is why she was invited to the "big kids debate" on the subsequent debates). And while she obviously wasn't the candidate of choice for a lot of people (given how she did in the primaries), a lot of people still seem to have ranked her quite high (just not in first place) based on the things I heard back when she was still running.
Posted by: junior at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (t+Qw5)
164
Yeah, the rewriting of history is strong these days. Its very sickening watching how many on the right are slurping up the leftist lies about that entire event. It wasn't even that long ago.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
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Sounding concerned, indeed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
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Sounding concerned, indeed.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (NUqwG)
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Watching the basketball games, eh? Pandering in it's finest form.
Why is his 5 year old texting? Or 8 year old for that matter?
He's getting weird....he better announce her soon, because he's losing people.
Why is his 5 year old texting? Or 8 year old for that matter?
He's getting weird....he better announce her soon, because he's losing people.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (F5hTl)
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138 I can't wait for more people to chime in about how big a mistake going into Iraq was. Makes my day, it does. Especially seeing that I saw my son a couple of months out of 7 years because of it. Yes, yes. All for naught. Everything he did was worthless. The men he served with - chumps for volunteering to go over there. Heck, they should have stayed home and fought the war on the internet. You know, the place where everyone knows everything. At least he came home. Some of them didn't you know. Worthless deaths. Wasted lives.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree
I hate that talking about it is hurtful to vets that served over there, I honestly am, but at the same time, we still have NeoCons like John McCain that basically want boots on the ground over the entire Middle East.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree
I hate that talking about it is hurtful to vets that served over there, I honestly am, but at the same time, we still have NeoCons like John McCain that basically want boots on the ground over the entire Middle East.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (sDOgQ)
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: scottst at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (CnXRH)
169
I saw Preachy Pandering open for Vapid Platitudes back in ought 9.
Posted by: Roland THTG at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (QM5S2)
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I was kind of hoping that Cruz was going to pack it in this afternoon.
I knew he wasn't because he wasn't in Texas. It's traditional to go home to quit a race.
I knew he wasn't because he wasn't in Texas. It's traditional to go home to quit a race.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (evdj2)
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Since we went into Iraq and many people sacrificed, it is unacceptable to conclude that going in was a mistake?
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (NUqwG)
No, curiosity is a good thing.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (NUqwG)
No, curiosity is a good thing.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (F6/Mp)
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Can I just call for a Mattis/Walker ticket to be available say the day after Trump's nomination in Cleveland?
Posted by: H Badger at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (n/0Nw)
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Probably not the best choice at this juncture.
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (vBeA5)
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Apparently Ted is announcing his VP choice in order to, I dunno, improve his chance on the third ballot?
Anyway, what direction do you think Donald (the presumptive nominee) will go when he announces his? Completely out of the ballpark with some former general/ceo/border security officer?
Or tried and true die hard republican-ish lifetime pol?
Anyway, what direction do you think Donald (the presumptive nominee) will go when he announces his? Completely out of the ballpark with some former general/ceo/border security officer?
Or tried and true die hard republican-ish lifetime pol?
Posted by: ajmojo at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (1H9ox)
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I am concerned about how concerned you sound about my concern about...
wait, where was I?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Your confusion...
[ ] Does not concern me.
[X] Concerns me
Am I being sarcastic...
[ ] No
[X] Yes
wait, where was I?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Your confusion...
[ ] Does not concern me.
[X] Concerns me
Am I being sarcastic...
[ ] No
[X] Yes
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (+CKpi)
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Carly jumped from 3% to 15% late last year after she began attacking Trump, but cratered back to 3% as soon as she started hammering on and on about the Planned Parenthood videos during the debates.
I hate to say it, but I suspect she's gonna alienate many of the suburban, not-yet-for-Trump women in California, and those suburban areas are where Cruz needs to shine.
I hate to say it, but I suspect she's gonna alienate many of the suburban, not-yet-for-Trump women in California, and those suburban areas are where Cruz needs to shine.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (21hN3)
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I can't wait for more people to chime in about how big a mistake going into Iraq was.
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Yeah, the rewriting of history is strong these days. Its very sickening watching how many on the right are slurping up the leftist lies about that entire event. It wasn't even that long ago.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
Winning the battles but losing the war is a mistake.
Yes, the Democrats threw away what was earned. No, that doesn't undo the lives wasted.
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Yeah, the rewriting of history is strong these days. Its very sickening watching how many on the right are slurping up the leftist lies about that entire event. It wasn't even that long ago.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
Winning the battles but losing the war is a mistake.
Yes, the Democrats threw away what was earned. No, that doesn't undo the lives wasted.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (uURQL)
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steevy even that won't help Donald
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (8BJMp)
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Women dislike Cruz even more than they dislike Hillary. Posted by: scottst at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (CnXRH)
This woman doesn't and I bet I'm not the only one.
This woman doesn't and I bet I'm not the only one.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (w4NZ8)
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But I have re-registered to the republican party to vote for Trump out here in Kalifornia.
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Really? But I thought you used to post as 'Former Republican'. So you've switched out (to what?) and now back in?
So, you MUST follow party registration when voting for President?
California is worse than I imagined... OR, your stated rationale is, um, ... disingenuous.
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Really? But I thought you used to post as 'Former Republican'. So you've switched out (to what?) and now back in?
So, you MUST follow party registration when voting for President?
California is worse than I imagined... OR, your stated rationale is, um, ... disingenuous.
Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (9mTYi)
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To top Cruz Trump will pick a hot babe for VP.With big funbags.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
if Trump picked Susana Martinez, game over
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
if Trump picked Susana Martinez, game over
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (qCMvj)
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I like Carly Fiorina. She was my 2nd choice after Scott Walker dropped out. I was delighted when she endorsed Ted Cruz. I hope this development works out well for both of them.
I will reluctantly vote for Trump if he is the nominee, but I'll do so with the firm belief that he'll lose anyway in the Fall. My sense of Cruz is that he'd do much better against Hillary, and be a far better president than Trump.
On to Indiana....
I will reluctantly vote for Trump if he is the nominee, but I'll do so with the firm belief that he'll lose anyway in the Fall. My sense of Cruz is that he'd do much better against Hillary, and be a far better president than Trump.
On to Indiana....
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (UYQcx)
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Since we went into Iraq and many people sacrificed, it is unacceptable to conclude that going in was a mistake?
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (NUqwG)
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Obama just sent 8,000 troops back in while you weren't looking.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (NUqwG)
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Obama just sent 8,000 troops back in while you weren't looking.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (mcm0N)
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This frees up Kasich to be Trump's VP, so there's that.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (evdj2)
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2. Have her play in CA.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (gmeXX)
I don't know what sort of enthusiasm you can gin up from a failed Senatorial candidate.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:33 PM (gmeXX)
I don't know what sort of enthusiasm you can gin up from a failed Senatorial candidate.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (uURQL)
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I knew he wasn't because he wasn't in Texas. It's traditional to go home to quit a race.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor
with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (evdj2)
Or to get a change of clothes...
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor
with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (evdj2)
Or to get a change of clothes...
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (+eR2D)
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After Trumps insult, Carly will do the running-mate job of being an attack dog with gusto. She may provoke Trump to nuke his own campaign. That may be entertaining, but then what? The GOPe gets to choose? The Elite choosing is not a good outcome either.
Posted by: Despair, It's What's For Dinner at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (jnRfN)
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Carly and I will be going from town to town here in Indiana, shooting a few basketball rings and getting to know you people.
Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (Fmupd)
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Maybe he's gonna pull a Bud Dwyer....
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (pCyc6)
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To top Cruz Trump will pick a hot babe for VP.With big funbags.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
He's going to pick the brunette from 2 Broke Girls?
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
He's going to pick the brunette from 2 Broke Girls?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (OE2ur)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (mcm0N)
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I believe Ted Cruz is far more useful to us in congress than the white house, especially these days. If he wouldn't double down and make a disaster far worse, I'd prefer Sanders win in November and take the coming economic disaster straight in the teeth.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (39g3+)
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This woman doesn't and I bet I'm not the only one.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (w4NZ
You're not. There are three in my family. Wife, Mom, and one of my sisters.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (w4NZ
You're not. There are three in my family. Wife, Mom, and one of my sisters.
Posted by: jsg at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (gs8be)
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To top Cruz Trump will pick a hot babe for VP.With big funbags.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
Morganna, the Kissing Bandit! She's the whole reason I wanted to play 3rd base.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
Morganna, the Kissing Bandit! She's the whole reason I wanted to play 3rd base.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (hqZPQ)
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So I guess Cruz is the guy who is known to never speak in platitudes. He is the guy that is always specific, right? And yet, he rarely gets over that 30% mark. Sometimes less. 30% in a 3 man race instead of 30% in a 16 person race. That's a better candidate?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (R+30W)
People who like Trump believe him when he says he wants to put "whatever this is" *points to head* to work for our country.
People who don't find him odious and obnoxious and untrustworthy and egotistical.
The arguments justify the gut reaction, and not the other way around.
It really comes down to this: bit.ly/1XWnemW
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:32 PM (R+30W)
People who like Trump believe him when he says he wants to put "whatever this is" *points to head* to work for our country.
People who don't find him odious and obnoxious and untrustworthy and egotistical.
The arguments justify the gut reaction, and not the other way around.
It really comes down to this: bit.ly/1XWnemW
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (xuouz)
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I don't recall TFG ever saying he would put America or American interests first. An Overt Globalist from day one, he was.
Posted by: bourbon_straw_drinker at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (/542q)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (r65B3)
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This is the end, my only friend, the end
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (8ZHTC)
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How about his business history, is that fair game?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (dpnZC)
Fair game as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (dpnZC)
Fair game as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Hillary at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (ePcUK)
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I wish Kasich would pack it in, too.
The real enemy here is Hillary Clinton. Hope we don't forget that.
The real enemy here is Hillary Clinton. Hope we don't forget that.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (Z56vq)
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I believe Ted Cruz is far more useful to us in congress than the white house, especially these days.
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Seems strange. I would agree with you if it was Cruz as VP.
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Seems strange. I would agree with you if it was Cruz as VP.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (gmeXX)
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Obama just sent 8,000 troops back in while you weren't looking.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (mcm0N)
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Another intervention effects the previous intervention being a good or bad decision in what way?
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (mcm0N)
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Another intervention effects the previous intervention being a good or bad decision in what way?
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (NUqwG)
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Had Ted Cruz struck a deal like this months ago, it could have been a game changer. Now it seems desperate.
I honestly think Fiorina was the smartest person running for President but her tenure at HP was simply too awful. And it wasn't her fault, it would be like being CEO of Kodak. Just the breaks.
I honestly think Fiorina was the smartest person running for President but her tenure at HP was simply too awful. And it wasn't her fault, it would be like being CEO of Kodak. Just the breaks.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (sDOgQ)
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So... what did He say?
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (O2RFr)
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190 Just slap a pair of thick rimmed glasses on her and put her hair in a bun and she'll look smart.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (B48dK)
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Bet this goes as well for Ted as it did for HP
Posted by: Biggus Dickus at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (Wh62j)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (evdj2)
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This woman doesn't and I bet I'm not the only one.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (w4NZ
Same here. I'd never in a billion years cast a vote for Hillary. I voted for Cruz in the primary.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (w4NZ
Same here. I'd never in a billion years cast a vote for Hillary. I voted for Cruz in the primary.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (+eR2D)
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Obama just sent 8,000 troops back in while you weren't looking.
Obama also just sent 2,000 more to Turkey.
Whatever happened to "no boots on the ground?"
Are they all bootless?
Obama just sent 8,000 troops back in while you weren't looking.
Obama also just sent 2,000 more to Turkey.
Whatever happened to "no boots on the ground?"
Are they all bootless?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (hqZPQ)
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Carly and I will be going from town to town here in Indiana, shooting a few basketball rings and getting to know you people.
I read about that in Two Corinthians on 7-11.
I read about that in Two Corinthians on 7-11.
Posted by: The Donald at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (39g3+)
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Trump will congratulate Carly and Ted and wish them luck in the remaining contests.
Presidential!
Presidential!
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (xuouz)
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Well, at least I can say that I know what it's like to have a ticket I want to vote for. It may be conservatism's last hurrah in America, though.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (LAe3v)
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I like a dead deer by the side of the road better than I like Hillary (although I do pray for her) and if that was my choice on the ballot-Hillary or dead deer,-I would have no hesitation in voting for the carrion.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (w4NZ8)
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@198: "Trump Prediction for VP.... Newt Gingrich. Yup...you heard it here first."
There were rumors of Newt angling to be Trump's White House Chief of Staff a few months ago. Trump can't pick another old, white guy as his running mate, but yeah, Newt would be a useful member of the administration.
There were rumors of Newt angling to be Trump's White House Chief of Staff a few months ago. Trump can't pick another old, white guy as his running mate, but yeah, Newt would be a useful member of the administration.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (21hN3)
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The issue is not "having gone into Iraq", it's having gone in half assed (referring to political leadership).
You want to win hearts and minds? That takes a great deal of death and construction. Any other approach gets more young men killed.
You want to win hearts and minds? That takes a great deal of death and construction. Any other approach gets more young men killed.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (C9pBZ)
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192 I believe Ted Cruz is far more useful to us in congress than the white house, especially these days. If he wouldn't double down and make a disaster far worse, I'd prefer Sanders win in November and take the coming economic disaster straight in the teeth.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (39g3+)
I like what's left of my teeth to stay attached to my jaw, thank you.
Cruz would be minimally a very good president. Considering he'd have opposition everywhere in DC, I think he'd still accomplish quite a bit.
But, we still have the convention and then, please G-d, the general.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (39g3+)
I like what's left of my teeth to stay attached to my jaw, thank you.
Cruz would be minimally a very good president. Considering he'd have opposition everywhere in DC, I think he'd still accomplish quite a bit.
But, we still have the convention and then, please G-d, the general.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (p4UlV)
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Whatever happened to "no boots on the ground?"
Are they all bootless?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (k4M/B)
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Could be high heels these days.
Are they all bootless?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (k4M/B)
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Could be high heels these days.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (NUqwG)
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The real enemy here is Hillary Clinton. Hope we don't forget that.
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For me the real enemy is statism and liberal progressive-ism.
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For me the real enemy is statism and liberal progressive-ism.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (gmeXX)
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I can't wait for more people to chime in about how big a mistake going into Iraq was.
Yeah, the rewriting of history is strong these days. Its very sickening watching how many on the right are slurping up the leftist lies about that entire event. It wasn't even that long ago.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
I didn't agree with going into Iraq at the time, and I understand that Bush made mistakes, but Bush laid out his case, and most Americans, including Dems in congress agreed with him. I understand hindsight is 20/20, but pretending that most people knew what would happen or that it should have been obvious is disingenuous at best.
Plus, we really wouldn't be having this conversation if Obama hadn't undone all the progress that was made, oftentimes contrary to the advice of the military folks around him.
Yeah, the rewriting of history is strong these days. Its very sickening watching how many on the right are slurping up the leftist lies about that entire event. It wasn't even that long ago.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
I didn't agree with going into Iraq at the time, and I understand that Bush made mistakes, but Bush laid out his case, and most Americans, including Dems in congress agreed with him. I understand hindsight is 20/20, but pretending that most people knew what would happen or that it should have been obvious is disingenuous at best.
Plus, we really wouldn't be having this conversation if Obama hadn't undone all the progress that was made, oftentimes contrary to the advice of the military folks around him.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (6bMel)
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The real enemy here is Hillary Clinton. Hope we don't forget that.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (Z56vq)
No matter the gender or hair style, used car salesmen are the enemy.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:39 PM (Z56vq)
No matter the gender or hair style, used car salesmen are the enemy.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (F6/Mp)
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I hate to say it, but I suspect she's gonna alienate many of the suburban, not-yet-for-Trump women in California, and those suburban areas are where Cruz needs to shine.
There are Women for Trump?
There are Women for Trump?
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (qCMvj)
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Now matters are worse....
Posted by: Paladin at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM ghost (hGShP)
That's my line, douchebag.
Posted by: Paladin at April 27, 2016 04:29 PM ghost (hGShP)
That's my line, douchebag.
Posted by: Yoda at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (8h60Q)
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194 Shit,she must pull her tits in a wagon behind her by now.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (B48dK)
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local radio guy said about fiorina "why would you jump on the titanic while it's sinking?"
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (0O7c5)
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Just slap a pair of thick rimmed glasses on her and put her hair in a bun and she'll look smart.
Posted by: steevy
♫ Wonder Woman! ♫
Just slap a pair of thick rimmed glasses on her and put her hair in a bun and she'll look smart.
Posted by: steevy
♫ Wonder Woman! ♫
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (qCMvj)
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Whatever happened to "no boots on the ground?"
Are they all bootless?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (k4M/B)
They're wearing cross trainers from UNDER ARMOUR (tm)
Are they all bootless?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (k4M/B)
They're wearing cross trainers from UNDER ARMOUR (tm)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (xuouz)
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This woman doesn't and I bet I'm not the only one.
You'll take your orders on who you vote for and like from a man and like it!
You'll take your orders on who you vote for and like from a man and like it!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (39g3+)
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I bet Christie has input into Trump's VP choice. But it won't be him.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (pCyc6)
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My thought is that Trump could easily win the general if he was politically astute. He would have to show gravitas when needed, and Huey Long populism for another audience. Pander to and flatter the Whore Media, grovel to the camera and show his sensitive side.
He can't do this, I think, and for the record Cruz hasn't shown me that he can either.
He can't do this, I think, and for the record Cruz hasn't shown me that he can either.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (zuTLp)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (1xUj/)
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Feel the excitement.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (/tuJf)
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Why does the issue of invading Iraq matter in the Trump vs. Cruz primary? I'm curious.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (F6/Mp)
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208 Trump Prediction for VP....
It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (evdj2)
And that will completely turn me off to the guy. Especially if it's Kasich.
He'll get my vote, but I'll be holding my nose. Yet again.
It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (evdj2)
And that will completely turn me off to the guy. Especially if it's Kasich.
He'll get my vote, but I'll be holding my nose. Yet again.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (p4UlV)
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Trump should pick Ben Carson.
Make it an outsider ticket, Carson is still well liked and it would be harder to paint Trump as a racist when he picks a black running mate. Optics matter
Might even peel off a sliver of the black vote, they're not exactly happy with the 3rd world invasion either.
Make it an outsider ticket, Carson is still well liked and it would be harder to paint Trump as a racist when he picks a black running mate. Optics matter
Might even peel off a sliver of the black vote, they're not exactly happy with the 3rd world invasion either.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (sDOgQ)
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Okay THIS is the song that they chose for Carly? Really? She's from California, geez.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (F5hTl)
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It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Kasich. Rubio won't take it, why hitch his wagon to a 40 state wipeout when he can wait until 2020 and run again.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Kasich. Rubio won't take it, why hitch his wagon to a 40 state wipeout when he can wait until 2020 and run again.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (ePcUK)
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Trump won across nearly all demographic groups gender, education and income levels alike in Connecticut, Maryland and Pennsylvania. With the exception of the youngest voters in Maryland, he won all age groups in each state.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (QPdNE)
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Obama just sent 8,000 troops back in while you weren't looking.
Obama also just sent 2,000 more to Turkey.
It's a good thing he's torn the military to shreds and made gays and trannies a priority for it
Obama also just sent 2,000 more to Turkey.
It's a good thing he's torn the military to shreds and made gays and trannies a priority for it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (OE2ur)
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This is the end, my only friend, the end
Posted by: Mortimer
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If it has to be Doors lyrics, then I'm going with 'Show me the way to the next whiskey bar'.
Posted by: Mortimer
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If it has to be Doors lyrics, then I'm going with 'Show me the way to the next whiskey bar'.
Posted by: Just saying at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (9mTYi)
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There are Women for Trump?
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (O2RFr)
No! All vaginamericans vote in a bloc against him! He fills in the gaps in his lowly-educated white male demo with racists and self-hating minorities!
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (O2RFr)
No! All vaginamericans vote in a bloc against him! He fills in the gaps in his lowly-educated white male demo with racists and self-hating minorities!
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (xuouz)
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190 To top Cruz Trump will pick a hot babe for VP.With big funbags.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
He's going to pick the brunette from 2 Broke Girls?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (OE2ur)
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He's going to use all of his Miss Universe contestants as ambassadors --finally--"world peace!"
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (B48dK)
He's going to pick the brunette from 2 Broke Girls?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2016 04:38 PM (OE2ur)
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He's going to use all of his Miss Universe contestants as ambassadors --finally--"world peace!"
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (mcm0N)
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@223: "There are Women for Trump?"
Oops. I phrased that wrong. More like anti-Trump, but not-yet-Cruz suburban housewives which Cruz will need in California if he wants to kill Trump on the first convention ballot.
*shrugs*
Oops. I phrased that wrong. More like anti-Trump, but not-yet-Cruz suburban housewives which Cruz will need in California if he wants to kill Trump on the first convention ballot.
*shrugs*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (21hN3)
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236 Why does the issue of invading Iraq matter in the Trump vs. Cruz primary? I'm curious.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (F6/Mp)
It shouldn't. It's the aftermath, especially since 1/20/09 that is the important issue in that regard.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (F6/Mp)
It shouldn't. It's the aftermath, especially since 1/20/09 that is the important issue in that regard.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (p4UlV)
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Nate Silver's write up suggests Trumps voters showed up and competitors voters did not, meaning he might not have expanded his vote despite the percentage rising. Then again, Nate says, he might have. Upcoming primaries will tell more.
In the meantime he suggests withholding judgment.
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Nate Silver's write up suggests Trumps voters showed up and competitors voters did not, meaning he might not have expanded his vote despite the percentage rising. Then again, Nate says, he might have. Upcoming primaries will tell more.
In the meantime he suggests withholding judgment.
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (LISuA)
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Feel the excitement.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (/tuJf)
after he didn't win arizona......i lost my excitement
Feel the excitement.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (/tuJf)
after he didn't win arizona......i lost my excitement
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (qCMvj)
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I'm confused. I want to be a woman and motorboat carly at the same time.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (F6/Mp)
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I wonder why running mates don't get announced sooner like this.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (8BJMp)
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>>Why does the issue of invading Iraq matter in the Trump vs. Cruz primary? I'm curious.
Because it speaks to judgement. Not to mention re-wrighting history.
Because it speaks to judgement. Not to mention re-wrighting history.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (/tuJf)
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I don't see Trump picking another white dude for VP. But who knows? He's just as likely to pick a cardboard cutout of himself as he is something genius. The guy is unpredictable.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (39g3+)
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>>>People who don't find him odious and obnoxious and untrustworthy and egotistical.
I think that even his supporters would concede the "obnoxious" and "egotistical" descriptors. It's part of his charm.
I think that even his supporters would concede the "obnoxious" and "egotistical" descriptors. It's part of his charm.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (R+30W)
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So let's see . . . the One True Ted has had a pretend swearing-in ceremony. Now he's selecting a pretend running mate.
Can't wait for his pretend debates in the fall, followed by his pretend victory speech and pretend inaugural address!
Can't wait for his pretend debates in the fall, followed by his pretend victory speech and pretend inaugural address!
Posted by: tsj017 at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (4YUWF)
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My Presidential election this year if it is Trump v Hillary is actually the Senate race here in WI.
#NeverTrump
#NeverTrump
Posted by: H Badger at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (n/0Nw)
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If it has to be Doors lyrics, then I'm going with 'Show me the way to the next whiskey bar'.
Is that a Doors original?
It sounds like a Kurt Weil song.
Is that a Doors original?
It sounds like a Kurt Weil song.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (1xUj/)
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I could vote for Cruz/Carly. I would get in my car for that.
Posted by: grammie winger,
You drive a voting booth?
Heh, just running with you, Grammie.
Posted by: grammie winger,
You drive a voting booth?
Heh, just running with you, Grammie.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (+CKpi)
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Just slap a pair of thick rimmed glasses on her and put her hair in a bun and she'll look smart.
Posted by: steevy
Wonder Woman!
Kinky Librarian!
Posted by: steevy
Wonder Woman!
Kinky Librarian!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (Jcvz2)
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (F5hTl)
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Not watching but this little announcement smacks of something and I can't quite find the right word for it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (LA7Cm)
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I know You make light of Trumps "problems" with Women, but You shouldn't... Unless things turn around He's toast without their votes....
I know You make light of Trumps "problems" with Women, but You shouldn't... Unless things turn around He's toast without their votes....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (O2RFr)
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (39g3+)
I think we were correct to go into Iraq.
But that doesn't mean that I approve of the way we conducted the war.
I think we were correct to go into Iraq.
But that doesn't mean that I approve of the way we conducted the war.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (Zu3d9)
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fiorina is much better looking in person......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (0O7c5)
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It shouldn't. It's the aftermath, especially since 1/20/09 that is the important issue in that regard.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (p4UlV)
I agree, both say they want to bomb ISIS right. Don't see much difference except that Cruz would probably not piss off the world.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (p4UlV)
I agree, both say they want to bomb ISIS right. Don't see much difference except that Cruz would probably not piss off the world.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (F6/Mp)
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244 All vaginamericans vote in a bloc against him
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I like the word, "vaginamericans".
Sadly, that might turn out to be a pretty accurate prediction in the general, though I sure do hope not.
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I like the word, "vaginamericans".
Sadly, that might turn out to be a pretty accurate prediction in the general, though I sure do hope not.
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (LISuA)
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If you had bothered to watch Trump's speech, instead of just read about it...
You would realize that Trump wrote that speech.
It used his mannerisms, his cadence, his way of speaking....
Thus the allegation that he did not know what he was saying does not track...
You would realize that Trump wrote that speech.
It used his mannerisms, his cadence, his way of speaking....
Thus the allegation that he did not know what he was saying does not track...
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (qf6WZ)
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Grammie Winger
Yes. Like Vietnam. We were chumps. Any American military victory will be undone by the next Democrats with the power to turn yet another victory into defeat. They are actually quite upfront about this if you ask them they will tell you that they have to lose wars and throw away the sacrifice of those who won them because that is the only way to keep us bloodthirsty Republicans from invading countries full of innocent brown people and killing them for sport.
Yes. Like Vietnam. We were chumps. Any American military victory will be undone by the next Democrats with the power to turn yet another victory into defeat. They are actually quite upfront about this if you ask them they will tell you that they have to lose wars and throw away the sacrifice of those who won them because that is the only way to keep us bloodthirsty Republicans from invading countries full of innocent brown people and killing them for sport.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (MpvuV)
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My prediction - Carly is going to do the full Rubio on Trump for the next two weeks and then Cruz loses again, and finally decides to pack it in.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (Z56vq)
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NO!!!!!!!!
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (/tuJf)
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can't wait for more people to chime in about how big a mistake going into Iraq was.
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Sure going into Iraq was crazy but it was last call and I had my tequila goggles on.
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Sure going into Iraq was crazy but it was last call and I had my tequila goggles on.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (Nwg0u)
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Remember, the convention chooses the Veep nominee, not any Presidential candidate.
The convention should exercise the right.
The convention should exercise the right.
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (qCMvj)
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">>>>>I can recall - back when ace was Trump-curious - that the concern was that Trump was only polling at 30-35%. Would he be able to reach beyond his core and get wider support? Now he is getting above 50% - even up
past 60%. Not just in this election or that, but also in national polls.
So, I guess that "concern" has been alleviated.
Now, the problem is that he is a politician mouthing platitudes. Not those specifies that made him popular with some, but would also make other turn against him.
So I guess Cruz is the guy who is known to
never speak in platitudes. He is the guy that is always specific, right? And yet, he rarely gets over that 30% mark. Sometimes less. 30% in a 3 man race instead of 30% in a 16 person race. That's a better candidate?
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.Oh come on now, that it is so yesterday. Now it is Trump's unfavorables. Do try and keep up won't you?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (iONHu)"
Trump's victories in the last 6 contests are impressive except that there are considerably fewer Republican voters participating in those states. Only PA had a good size turnout yesterday. What I think this points out is that for 2020 we need to make sure the delegate allocation system is reworked. Trump is correct that it is rigged, but he's wrong in how it's rigged. It's stacked to favor an early front-runner and hobble an insurgent candidate. The RNC just never anticipated a celebrity populist would win the early races and then be propped up by big delegate hauls in deep blue states and/or states with open primaries. That's got to change in the future. New York, DE, MD, CT, etc. shouldn't have as many delegates as states with comparable population but a far higher proportion of Republicans.
I don't begrudge Trump his victories yesterday. He hails from a fairly liberal wing of thought and the Republicans in those states do as well. It's getting 100% of the WTA states earlier with less than 50% of the votes that bothers me.
Oh, and Kasich, it's past time for you to exit this race.
past 60%. Not just in this election or that, but also in national polls.
So, I guess that "concern" has been alleviated.
Now, the problem is that he is a politician mouthing platitudes. Not those specifies that made him popular with some, but would also make other turn against him.
So I guess Cruz is the guy who is known to
never speak in platitudes. He is the guy that is always specific, right? And yet, he rarely gets over that 30% mark. Sometimes less. 30% in a 3 man race instead of 30% in a 16 person race. That's a better candidate?
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.Oh come on now, that it is so yesterday. Now it is Trump's unfavorables. Do try and keep up won't you?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (iONHu)"
Trump's victories in the last 6 contests are impressive except that there are considerably fewer Republican voters participating in those states. Only PA had a good size turnout yesterday. What I think this points out is that for 2020 we need to make sure the delegate allocation system is reworked. Trump is correct that it is rigged, but he's wrong in how it's rigged. It's stacked to favor an early front-runner and hobble an insurgent candidate. The RNC just never anticipated a celebrity populist would win the early races and then be propped up by big delegate hauls in deep blue states and/or states with open primaries. That's got to change in the future. New York, DE, MD, CT, etc. shouldn't have as many delegates as states with comparable population but a far higher proportion of Republicans.
I don't begrudge Trump his victories yesterday. He hails from a fairly liberal wing of thought and the Republicans in those states do as well. It's getting 100% of the WTA states earlier with less than 50% of the votes that bothers me.
Oh, and Kasich, it's past time for you to exit this race.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (UYQcx)
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But that doesn't mean that I approve of the way we conducted the war.
Yeah it was an uneven effort but then, so was WW2, its just that we conquered so totally that people forgot or forgave it. Like someone said above, it was mostly what happened after Bush left office that ruined things. Obama totally gave away all the victories.
Yeah it was an uneven effort but then, so was WW2, its just that we conquered so totally that people forgot or forgave it. Like someone said above, it was mostly what happened after Bush left office that ruined things. Obama totally gave away all the victories.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (39g3+)
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There were rumors of Newt angling to be Trump's White House Chief of Staff a few months ago. Trump can't pick another old, white guy as his running mate, but yeah, Newt would be a useful member of the administration.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (21hN3)
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CoS would be perfect for Newt. He knows the congressional process and all the dirty little tricks they play.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (21hN3)
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CoS would be perfect for Newt. He knows the congressional process and all the dirty little tricks they play.
Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (1xUj/)
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I wonder why running mates don't get announced sooner like this.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (8BJMp)
Tactical timing. It's not a mistake it's today.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:43 PM (8BJMp)
Tactical timing. It's not a mistake it's today.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (F6/Mp)
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It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
NFW. Gotta be someone off the radar. Could be a dem. He'll pick someone qualified, not someone JUST to check minority or gender boxes, but don't be surprised if he does go with a woman or minority. Or both.
Or Beyonce. I think this could actually be his best choice. Idiocracy started when Obama was elected and told everyone the seas would stop rising. Let's embrace it.
Seriously find a downside for Beyonce as VP pick.
NFW. Gotta be someone off the radar. Could be a dem. He'll pick someone qualified, not someone JUST to check minority or gender boxes, but don't be surprised if he does go with a woman or minority. Or both.
Or Beyonce. I think this could actually be his best choice. Idiocracy started when Obama was elected and told everyone the seas would stop rising. Let's embrace it.
Seriously find a downside for Beyonce as VP pick.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (xuouz)
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264 : Ghost of kari - certified sidebar
I know You make light of Trumps "problems" with Women, but You shouldn't... Unless things turn around He's toast without their votes....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (O2RFr)
And you and others like you TOTALLY dismiss Hillary's problems with the MAN vote.
I know You make light of Trumps "problems" with Women, but You shouldn't... Unless things turn around He's toast without their votes....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (O2RFr)
And you and others like you TOTALLY dismiss Hillary's problems with the MAN vote.
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (qf6WZ)
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Ah a singing VP. The nomination is surely Cruz's now.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (ZbV+0)
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he problem with the Gender Ambiguous is that they have few job skills or are obsessed with doing sex work. So, that kitty in the side bar is more likely than not a prostitute, a working kitty, a Ho but being a cat a Co. Do you really want to pay for it? And, no, you dont pay in catnip. Benjis only.
he problem with the Gender Ambiguous is that they have few job skills or are obsessed with doing sex work. So, that kitty in the side bar is more likely than not a prostitute, a working kitty, a Ho but being a cat a Co. Do you really want to pay for it? And, no, you dont pay in catnip. Benjis only.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (iQIUe)
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"Now, the problem is that he is a politician mouthing platitudes."
No, the problem that has been revealed since many of us were Trump Curious is that Trump is a progressive who is not so good at concealing his non-conservatism.
No, the problem that has been revealed since many of us were Trump Curious is that Trump is a progressive who is not so good at concealing his non-conservatism.
Posted by: holygoat at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (DbBV5)
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http://tinyurl.com/jhk6vp7
Here's link to Spectator article I mentioned in one post about trump wins vs Sanders & Clinton's votes last night.
Trump if nominee is going to lose.
Here's link to Spectator article I mentioned in one post about trump wins vs Sanders & Clinton's votes last night.
Trump if nominee is going to lose.
Posted by: Carol at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (sj3Ax)
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227 I concur JJ.
I was only half jesting about Gingrich. I know they are well acquanited and I'd not be surprised if the Newtster is advising him behind the scenes.
I was only half jesting about Gingrich. I know they are well acquanited and I'd not be surprised if the Newtster is advising him behind the scenes.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (r65B3)
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Jumped the shark?
Cruz is so over this cycle. Now he's creating a big sucking deficit that will carry over and ruin his political career.
Cruz can't give up the attention because he's a narcissist. And he still has money in the kitty, so all those around him want to keep the game going.
NeverTrump Ringleader Romney has already gotten money into his super Pacs and still wants to get some digs in. Mitt shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the convention, nor anyone associated with him.
AnoinTED sold donors on the idea that he could capture Conservatives and Evangelicals in the SEC primaries and jump to the front. It didn't work. Surprisingly, because a cartoon character NYC billionaire split the Evangelical vote in the South. Donors won't make that mistake again.
Cruz is so over this cycle. Now he's creating a big sucking deficit that will carry over and ruin his political career.
Cruz can't give up the attention because he's a narcissist. And he still has money in the kitty, so all those around him want to keep the game going.
NeverTrump Ringleader Romney has already gotten money into his super Pacs and still wants to get some digs in. Mitt shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the convention, nor anyone associated with him.
AnoinTED sold donors on the idea that he could capture Conservatives and Evangelicals in the SEC primaries and jump to the front. It didn't work. Surprisingly, because a cartoon character NYC billionaire split the Evangelical vote in the South. Donors won't make that mistake again.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (r1fLd)
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Running = funning
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (+CKpi)
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Carly sings ok.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (NUqwG)
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How does this help? I just read that Kasich beat Cruz in four out of five primaries yesterday, something I hadn't noticed last night. I mean, Kasich?
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (kfoLf)
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If you had bothered to watch Trump's speech, instead of just read about it...
You would realize that Trump wrote that speech.
It used his mannerisms, his cadence, his way of speaking....
Thus the allegation that he did not know what he was saying does not track...
Oh pish posh! He read boilerplate off of a teleprompter.
At least that's what numerous posters have said.
You would realize that Trump wrote that speech.
It used his mannerisms, his cadence, his way of speaking....
Thus the allegation that he did not know what he was saying does not track...
Oh pish posh! He read boilerplate off of a teleprompter.
At least that's what numerous posters have said.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (Jcvz2)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (Nwg0u)
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LA got a big green fire ball last night. The aliens have landed!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (iQIUe)
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It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
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Highly doubt it.
Trump is masterful at PR. He is even good at rebranding. But how the hell would he reset "1 for 38" and "Liddle Marco"?
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Highly doubt it.
Trump is masterful at PR. He is even good at rebranding. But how the hell would he reset "1 for 38" and "Liddle Marco"?
Posted by: ajmojo at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (1H9ox)
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Unless things turn around He's toast without their votes....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (O2RFr)
Trump is toast man?! That does explain his burnt face.....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (O2RFr)
Trump is toast man?! That does explain his burnt face.....
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (F6/Mp)
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"'We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism,' Trump said"
I well remember George W. Bush staunchly pledging on the campaign trail that his administration would abjure any costly, futile attempts at "nation-building" abroad.
I well remember George W. Bush staunchly pledging on the campaign trail that his administration would abjure any costly, futile attempts at "nation-building" abroad.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (noWW6)
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If it has to be Doors lyrics, then I'm going with 'Show me the way to the next whiskey bar'.
Is that a Doors original?
It sounds like a Kurt Weil song.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (1xUj/)
"Alabama Song"
And yes, it is a cover.
Is that a Doors original?
It sounds like a Kurt Weil song.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (1xUj/)
"Alabama Song"
And yes, it is a cover.
Posted by: The Political Door at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (vBeA5)
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its just that we conquered so totally that people forgot or forgave it
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We conquered and stayed. We would look at WWII a lot differently if we had packed up and left only to let the Russians roll into Germany and Japan.
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We conquered and stayed. We would look at WWII a lot differently if we had packed up and left only to let the Russians roll into Germany and Japan.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (gmeXX)
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279 NO!!!!!!!!
The song?
Yeah.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (1xUj/)
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wtf---is happening?
No TV.
The song?
Yeah.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (1xUj/)
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wtf---is happening?
No TV.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (mcm0N)
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I was looking at voting numbers for the Pennsylvania Senator and posted them on the ONT. But the Democrats (4 of them) had more votes together than Toomey which tells me this states gone blue.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (8BJMp)
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Ah a singing VP. The nomination is surely Cruz's now.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (ZbV+0)
Is that like a Singing Nun or Singing Detective (the Michael Gambon version)?
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (ZbV+0)
Is that like a Singing Nun or Singing Detective (the Michael Gambon version)?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (OE2ur)
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CoS would be perfect for Newt. He knows the congressional process and all the dirty little tricks they play.
Yeah, I could see him do well in a position like that. out of policy and just in straight political stuff, the dirty in-the-mud fighting.
CoS would be perfect for Newt. He knows the congressional process and all the dirty little tricks they play.
Yeah, I could see him do well in a position like that. out of policy and just in straight political stuff, the dirty in-the-mud fighting.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (39g3+)
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I think that even his supporters would concede the "obnoxious" and "egotistical" descriptors. It's part of his charm.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (R+30W)
I know I do. Who's he most obnoxious to?
Politicians and media members.
Fire for effect, Donald.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:44 PM (R+30W)
I know I do. Who's he most obnoxious to?
Politicians and media members.
Fire for effect, Donald.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (xuouz)
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278...I had not heard that.
Yes...CofS would be perfect!
Yes...CofS would be perfect!
Posted by: Diogenes at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (r65B3)
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So has anyone managed to explain the concept of the nuclear triad to Trump yet?
Posted by: torquewrench at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (noWW6)
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It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
NFW. Gotta be someone off the radar. Could be a dem.
Jim Webb
It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
NFW. Gotta be someone off the radar. Could be a dem.
Jim Webb
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (k4M/B)
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It's not Fiorina that is singing?
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (mcm0N)
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I think it's a smart move for Cruz. People can now get a better idea of what that potential administration would shape up to be.
If Cruz, G-d forbid, loses Indiana, even I would have to say it's all over for him by the shouting. But I think this reenergizes the campaign and gives it a boost for the final 10 primaries.
And Fiorina is a damn good pick, IMHO.
I think it's a smart move for Cruz. People can now get a better idea of what that potential administration would shape up to be.
If Cruz, G-d forbid, loses Indiana, even I would have to say it's all over for him by the shouting. But I think this reenergizes the campaign and gives it a boost for the final 10 primaries.
And Fiorina is a damn good pick, IMHO.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (p4UlV)
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LA got a big green fire ball last night. The aliens have landed!
They've been there for awhile.... Se habla espanol? ... Oh You mean those aliens...
They've been there for awhile.... Se habla espanol? ... Oh You mean those aliens...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (O2RFr)
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Carly sings ok.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (NUqwG)
pleasant surprise, I was scared
what was she singing tho? don't tell me it was from Frozen?
and it was for Ted's two girls?
I'm flummoxed...
Carly sings ok.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:47 PM (NUqwG)
pleasant surprise, I was scared
what was she singing tho? don't tell me it was from Frozen?
and it was for Ted's two girls?
I'm flummoxed...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (qCMvj)
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Trump/Jenner (Caitlyn) 16?
Jenner is a Republican. Pulls the male AND female demographic.
Pulls the LGBTQ people that think it would be "so totes cool" for a transsexual to be in the white house.
Pulls the morons (not the morons here, actual morons) who love the Kardashians and only care about celebrity lifestyle.
Jenner is a Republican. Pulls the male AND female demographic.
Pulls the LGBTQ people that think it would be "so totes cool" for a transsexual to be in the white house.
Pulls the morons (not the morons here, actual morons) who love the Kardashians and only care about celebrity lifestyle.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (F5hTl)
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (Z56vq)
314
The final game of the final 4 games - sinful betting going on.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (NUqwG)
315
Trump is correct that it is rigged, but he's wrong in how it's rigged.
It's stacked to favor an early front-runner and hobble an insurgent
candidate. The RNC just never anticipated a celebrity populist would
win the early races
Great points, Jill.
It's stacked to favor an early front-runner and hobble an insurgent
candidate. The RNC just never anticipated a celebrity populist would
win the early races
Great points, Jill.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (8ZHTC)
316
I was thinking Jim Webb.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (B48dK)
317
Oh pish posh! He read boilerplate off of a teleprompter.
At least that's what numerous posters have said.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (Jcvz2)
I prefer his misspelled tweets. They help pass the time in the litter box.
Oh pish posh! He read boilerplate off of a teleprompter.
At least that's what numerous posters have said.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (Jcvz2)
I prefer his misspelled tweets. They help pass the time in the litter box.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (F6/Mp)
318
Damn socks
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (mcm0N)
320
Remember when Carly's big coup at HP right before her ouster was convincing Apple to let them sell a co-branded iPod that would come in HP blue? But Apple released a next generation iPod just a few weeks later, kept Apple Stores from servicing HP's iPods directly, and forbid HP from developing its own music players or supplanting iTunes as the media player of choice on all HP computers for three years?
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (21hN3)
321
310
LA got a big green fire ball last night. The aliens have landed!
Smashy-smashy egg men...with all due respect to the "Alabama Song."
LA got a big green fire ball last night. The aliens have landed!
Smashy-smashy egg men...with all due respect to the "Alabama Song."
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (hqZPQ)
322
I well remember George W. Bush staunchly pledging on the campaign trail that his administration would abjure any costly, futile attempts at "nation-building" abroad.
Posted by: torquewrench
Ahem...
Posted by: torquewrench
Ahem...
Posted by: 9/11 at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (+CKpi)
323
Oh pish posh! He read boilerplate off of a teleprompter.
At least that's what numerous posters have said.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (Jcvz2)
So.... you didn't watch the speech either???
Like... oh... I DID?
Oh pish posh! He read boilerplate off of a teleprompter.
At least that's what numerous posters have said.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (Jcvz2)
So.... you didn't watch the speech either???
Like... oh... I DID?
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (qf6WZ)
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (IQI2h)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (8ZHTC)
326
And Fiorina is a damn good pick, IMHO.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (p4UlV)
who else other than Newt can fight with words like she can?
that's why this is good, she's smart and quick-witted, knows her stuff - the media won't stump her
I only saw her flustered once.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (p4UlV)
who else other than Newt can fight with words like she can?
that's why this is good, she's smart and quick-witted, knows her stuff - the media won't stump her
I only saw her flustered once.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (qCMvj)
327
299 its just that we conquered so totally that people forgot or forgave it
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We conquered and stayed. We would look at WWII a lot differently if we had packed up and left only to let the Russians roll into Germany and Japan.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (gmeXX)
My mother, of blessed memory, said we should have let the Russkies take all of Europe. I think she might have been right. Western Europeans would have had a very different attitude towards America after living under the iron boot of a totalitarian regime for 45 years.
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We conquered and stayed. We would look at WWII a lot differently if we had packed up and left only to let the Russians roll into Germany and Japan.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (gmeXX)
My mother, of blessed memory, said we should have let the Russkies take all of Europe. I think she might have been right. Western Europeans would have had a very different attitude towards America after living under the iron boot of a totalitarian regime for 45 years.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (p4UlV)
328
Trump's victories in the last 6 contests are impressive except that there are considerably fewer Republican voters participating in those states. Only PA had a good size turnout yesterday. What I think this points out is that for 2020 we need to make sure the delegate allocation system is reworked. Trump is correct that it is rigged, but he's wrong in how it's rigged. It's stacked to favor an early front-runner and hobble an insurgent candidate. The RNC just never anticipated a celebrity populist would win the early races and then be propped up by big delegate hauls in deep blue states and/or states with open primaries. That's got to change in the future. New York, DE, MD, CT, etc. shouldn't have as many delegates as states with comparable population but a far higher proportion of Republicans.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (UYQcx)
Bonuses should be given for every U.S. Senator, every Congressman, every Governor, every legislative chamber held, every major city mayor, and on % of people with a GOP county commissioner.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (UYQcx)
Bonuses should be given for every U.S. Senator, every Congressman, every Governor, every legislative chamber held, every major city mayor, and on % of people with a GOP county commissioner.
Posted by: The Allocating Hat at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (vBeA5)
329
Yeah, there is that little Hillary and the "man" vote issue. Any man that that would vote for that banshee is nuts.
(Sadly, don't know that there are many Progressive men).
(Sadly, don't know that there are many Progressive men).
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (zuTLp)
330
Ah a singing VP. The nomination is surely Cruz's now.
Is that like a Singing Nun or Singing Detective
Cop Rock
Ah a singing VP. The nomination is surely Cruz's now.
Is that like a Singing Nun or Singing Detective
Cop Rock
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (k4M/B)
331
Nice. Giants poke 2 extra base hits past the retarded shift against the Padres. Its almost as if you open up gigantic holes in your defense against major league hitters, its a bad idea, or something!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (39g3+)
332
In the future, everyone will be a vice-presidential candidate for fifteen minutes.
Posted by: Andy Warhol at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (iynDC)
333
"It will be Kasich or Rubio. It's the smart play.
....
Highly doubt it.
Trump is masterful at PR. He is even good at rebranding. But how the hell would he reset "1 for 38" and "Liddle Marco"?
Posted by: ajmojo at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (1H9ox)"
Yes. I think Hell would freeze over before Rubio would say yes. Kasich is so delusional he'd probably be insulted at the offer.
....
Highly doubt it.
Trump is masterful at PR. He is even good at rebranding. But how the hell would he reset "1 for 38" and "Liddle Marco"?
Posted by: ajmojo at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (1H9ox)"
Yes. I think Hell would freeze over before Rubio would say yes. Kasich is so delusional he'd probably be insulted at the offer.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (UYQcx)
334
And I'm proud to announce Jim Webb as my running mate, who will use his freakishly enormous forehead to batter America's enemies into submission, saving billions in defense spending.
Posted by: Digitis Minimus Vulgaris at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (noWW6)
335
the One True Ted has had a pretend swearing-in ceremony.
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Say what you will T. rump, he has yet to open an Office of the Candidate Elect.
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Say what you will T. rump, he has yet to open an Office of the Candidate Elect.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (Nwg0u)
336
I well remember George W. Bush staunchly pledging on the campaign trail that his administration would abjure any costly, futile attempts at "nation-building" abroad.
Posted by: torquewrench
Ahem...
Posted by: 9/11 at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (+CKpi)
Ahem...
Posted by: torquewrench
Ahem...
Posted by: 9/11 at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (+CKpi)
Ahem...
Posted by: 8/7/98 at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (NUqwG)
337
Removing abused sock.
Posted by: Golfman at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (ciIVZ)
338
326 And Fiorina is a damn good pick, IMHO.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (p4UlV)
who else other than Newt can fight with words like she can?
that's why this is good, she's smart and quick-witted, knows her stuff - the media won't stump her
I only saw her flustered once.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (qCMvj)
Agreed on all fronts. Of course, it won't mean doodly squat unless Cruz comes away with the nod.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (p4UlV)
who else other than Newt can fight with words like she can?
that's why this is good, she's smart and quick-witted, knows her stuff - the media won't stump her
I only saw her flustered once.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (qCMvj)
Agreed on all fronts. Of course, it won't mean doodly squat unless Cruz comes away with the nod.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (p4UlV)
339
And Fiorina is a damn good pick, IMHO.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (p4UlV)
who else other than Newt can fight with words like she can?
that's why this is good, she's smart and quick-witted, knows her stuff - theI media won't stump her
I only saw her flustered once.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (qCMvj)
I always like Fiorina better. I think she is a better communicator. It's a smart choice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (p4UlV)
who else other than Newt can fight with words like she can?
that's why this is good, she's smart and quick-witted, knows her stuff - theI media won't stump her
I only saw her flustered once.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (qCMvj)
I always like Fiorina better. I think she is a better communicator. It's a smart choice.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (F6/Mp)
340
The singing VP sounds weird ... like Breitbart at the Weiner resignation weird (but which was actually awesome).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (hqZPQ)
341
Its a hail mary, but there is a reason you throw a hail mary.
Sometimes they work - usually they don't.
Sometimes they work - usually they don't.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (gmeXX)
342
Yes. I think Hell would freeze over before Rubio would say yes. Kasich is so delusional he'd probably be insulted at the offer.
Rubio would be smart to steer clear of a Trump VP slot...
Rubio would be smart to steer clear of a Trump VP slot...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (O2RFr)
343
I wonder why running mates don't get announced sooner like this.
Posted by: Skip
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I used to wonder the same thing.
Posted by: Skip
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I used to wonder the same thing.
Posted by: Jame Stockdale. at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (9mTYi)
344
And you and others like you TOTALLY dismiss Hillary's problems with the MAN vote.
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (qf6WZ)
Black and Hispanic male voters don't seem to have a problem with her, largely because they'll vote for anybody with a D behind their name. That leaves white male D's - who, while they might not love Cankles, will still vote for her. Combine that with the women who will not vote for Trump and - well, the news is not good for Trump supporters.
And you and others like you TOTALLY dismiss Hillary's problems with the MAN vote.
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 04:46 PM (qf6WZ)
Black and Hispanic male voters don't seem to have a problem with her, largely because they'll vote for anybody with a D behind their name. That leaves white male D's - who, while they might not love Cankles, will still vote for her. Combine that with the women who will not vote for Trump and - well, the news is not good for Trump supporters.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (u0lmX)
345
Yes. Like Vietnam. We were chumps. Any American military victory will be undone by the next Democrats with the power to turn yet another victory into defeat. They are actually quite upfront about this if you ask them they will tell you that they have to lose wars and throw away the sacrifice of those who won them because that is the only way to keep us bloodthirsty Republicans from invading countries full of innocent brown people and killing them for sport.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (MpvuV)
And just to keep the record straight, Vietnam was started by a Democratic president, over a questionable incident.
Republican Nixon brokered a ceasefire and a peace for American withdrawal, and the Democrats backstabbed South Vietnam when the Soviets backed a North Vietnamese invasion.
Fight to win. Back up our national honor. Democrats have a lot of blood on their hands for what they've done to undermine that.
Yes. Like Vietnam. We were chumps. Any American military victory will be undone by the next Democrats with the power to turn yet another victory into defeat. They are actually quite upfront about this if you ask them they will tell you that they have to lose wars and throw away the sacrifice of those who won them because that is the only way to keep us bloodthirsty Republicans from invading countries full of innocent brown people and killing them for sport.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:45 PM (MpvuV)
And just to keep the record straight, Vietnam was started by a Democratic president, over a questionable incident.
Republican Nixon brokered a ceasefire and a peace for American withdrawal, and the Democrats backstabbed South Vietnam when the Soviets backed a North Vietnamese invasion.
Fight to win. Back up our national honor. Democrats have a lot of blood on their hands for what they've done to undermine that.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (uURQL)
346
Like Ted said, if they both do not get to 1237, they go to convention.
People are going to be flaming mad either way.
Not me, I'm at /shrug phase now.
Scotch nearby.
Like Ted said, if they both do not get to 1237, they go to convention.
People are going to be flaming mad either way.
Not me, I'm at /shrug phase now.
Scotch nearby.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:52 PM (qCMvj)
347
Is this real life?
Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from REAAAAALLIITTYYYY...
er..
*cough*
sorry.
Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from REAAAAALLIITTYYYY...
er..
*cough*
sorry.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (39g3+)
348
Not going to get into my complaints about how we got into Iraq, out of respect for Grammie Winger, and not going to focus on the whole misbegotten "we can turn these countries into Democracies" BS either, but instead I want to point out one place we could have gone that would have really limited the damage the Progressives have subsequently done.
Once we had control of Iran's eastern border (Afghanistan) and the western border (Iraq) and a huge airbase just north of Iran (Incirlik), why didn't we finish the job on the Mullahs?
That I would have liked and approved of. The world would have been a little safer and the middle east lots more so.
Once we had control of Iran's eastern border (Afghanistan) and the western border (Iraq) and a huge airbase just north of Iran (Incirlik), why didn't we finish the job on the Mullahs?
That I would have liked and approved of. The world would have been a little safer and the middle east lots more so.
Posted by: MTF at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (LISuA)
349
Do we dial a 1-800 number to vote for Carly?
Posted by: Andy Warhol at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (uz/Pv)
350
Whoever told her that singing a song to Cruz's kids was a boffo campaign move should be beaten senseless. Then revived and waterboarded.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (/tuJf)
351
I went Trump curious for a minute.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (mcm0N)
352
Trump/Jenner (Caitlyn) 16?
Jenner is a Republican. Pulls the male AND female demographic.
Pulls the LGBTQ people that think it would be "so totes cool" for a transsexual to be in the white house.
Pulls the morons (not the morons here, actual morons) who love the Kardashians and only care about celebrity lifestyle.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (F5hTl)
Jenner would immediately be declared an enemy of the peoples and no longer be the hero mostest bravest thing ever and ESPN would take back its award
Jenner is a Republican. Pulls the male AND female demographic.
Pulls the LGBTQ people that think it would be "so totes cool" for a transsexual to be in the white house.
Pulls the morons (not the morons here, actual morons) who love the Kardashians and only care about celebrity lifestyle.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 04:49 PM (F5hTl)
Jenner would immediately be declared an enemy of the peoples and no longer be the hero mostest bravest thing ever and ESPN would take back its award
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (OE2ur)
Posted by: g6loq at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (zj+JZ)
354
When the music's over, turn out the lights
Posted by: Jim at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (12kBq)
355
Quick theory with nothing to back it up (the best kind!): Fiorina probably won't move much if anything in the way of votes, though some think she'll help in CA. But maybe she plays with with some uncommitted delegates and will keep them from Trump.
Posted by: Cantankerous at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (326rv)
356
Black and Hispanic male voters don't seem to have a problem with her, largely because they'll vote for anybody with a D behind their name. That leaves white male D's - who, while they might not love Cankles, will still vote for her. Combine that with the women who will not vote for Trump and - well, the news is not good for Trump supporters.
What You said...
What You said...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (O2RFr)
357
Is this real life?
Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from REAAAAALLIITTYYYY...
er..
*cough*
sorry.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (39g3+)
Perception is reality.
Is this just fantasy? Caught in a landslide, no escape from REAAAAALLIITTYYYY...
er..
*cough*
sorry.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:53 PM (39g3+)
Perception is reality.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (F6/Mp)
358
CF's just singing to disguise the fact that Cruz's daughters are also hers !!!!!!!!!!!!! And retarded monkeys!
CF's just singing to disguise the fact that Cruz's daughters are also hers !!!!!!!!!!!!! And retarded monkeys!
Posted by: The Demoncrat Machine at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (qul7b)
359
I was looking at voting numbers for the Pennsylvania Senator and posted them on the ONT. But the Democrats (4 of them) had more votes together than Toomey which tells me this states gone blue.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (8BJMp)
I could easily see Dems picking up at least a dozen Senate seats: NH, PA, NC, GA, OH, IN, IL, Wi, FL, IA, MO, AZ.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:48 PM (8BJMp)
I could easily see Dems picking up at least a dozen Senate seats: NH, PA, NC, GA, OH, IN, IL, Wi, FL, IA, MO, AZ.
Posted by: The Senatorial Hat at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (vBeA5)
360
Like Ted said, if they both do not get to 1237, they go to convention.
People are going to be flaming mad either way.
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I'm not mad. I'll be dissappointed because I believe we blew an opportunity to get a conservative nominated. But there is no point being mad. If Trump's the nominee so be it, I'll vote for someone else (not Hillary) or leave it blank. There will be another presidential election.
People are going to be flaming mad either way.
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I'm not mad. I'll be dissappointed because I believe we blew an opportunity to get a conservative nominated. But there is no point being mad. If Trump's the nominee so be it, I'll vote for someone else (not Hillary) or leave it blank. There will be another presidential election.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (gmeXX)
361
I dunno if it worked or not but singing is part of the "Cruz is fun and not an ogre" approach. Probably just SNL fodder like ALH said, though.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (39g3+)
362
Tina Fey WILL do Fiorina, count on it. And endless mockery by the Media. Funny how the Left gleefully eviscerate a woman if she's not "correct", but Feminism!!1!
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (zuTLp)
363
The problems with Iraq were 1) we grossly overestimated the capacity of Iraqis for civilization and 2) we grossly underestimated the treasonous potential of the Democrats.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (Nwg0u)
364
I well remember George W. Bush staunchly pledging on the campaign trail that his administration would abjure any costly, futile attempts at "nation-building" abroad.
Posted by: torquewrench
Ahem...
Posted by: 9/11 at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (+CKpi)
Ahem...
Posted by: 8/7/98
Let's not get up on our high horse.
Posted by: torquewrench
Ahem...
Posted by: 9/11 at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (+CKpi)
Ahem...
Posted by: 8/7/98
Let's not get up on our high horse.
Posted by: Moderate Muslim Prezzy at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (+CKpi)
365
Posted by: The Allocating Hat at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM
This is a great idea.
That's why it will never work.
This is a great idea.
That's why it will never work.
Posted by: Golfman at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (ciIVZ)
366
>>LA got a big green fire ball last night. The aliens have landed!
Yeah sorry about that. I spent the evening at Old Country Buffett.
Yeah sorry about that. I spent the evening at Old Country Buffett.
Posted by: John Kasich at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: A VP candidate at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (8ZHTC)
368
Any bets on if Drudge even MENTIONS that Cruz picked Fiorina?
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
Posted by: KG at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (bSogd)
Posted by: g6loq at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (zj+JZ)
370
wow.
That just happened.
Is this real life?
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (8ZHTC)
No, it's just fantasy.
Cruz is caught in a landslide.
No escape from reality.
That just happened.
Is this real life?
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 04:50 PM (8ZHTC)
No, it's just fantasy.
Cruz is caught in a landslide.
No escape from reality.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (ZbV+0)
371
Carly strokes me in all the right places.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (F6/Mp)
372
So.... you didn't watch the speech either???
Like... oh... I DID?
Posted by: Don Quixote
Agreeing. Riffing on what others were dismissing.
Like... oh... I DID?
Posted by: Don Quixote
Agreeing. Riffing on what others were dismissing.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:56 PM (Jcvz2)
373
She's reminding me why she was my first choice in the first place.
She didn't grow in the spotlight, though. I think that's why she didn't catch on.
Still, I like her best.
She didn't grow in the spotlight, though. I think that's why she didn't catch on.
Still, I like her best.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:56 PM (1xUj/)
374
I could easily see Dems picking up at least a dozen Senate seats: NH, PA, NC, GA, OH, IN, IL, Wi, FL, IA, MO, AZ.
Posted by: The Senatorial Hat at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (vBeA5)
There's already a Dem in the IL seat. He just pretends to be a Republican
Posted by: The Senatorial Hat at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (vBeA5)
There's already a Dem in the IL seat. He just pretends to be a Republican
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2016 04:56 PM (OE2ur)
375
Any bets on if Drudge even MENTIONS that Cruz picked Fiorina?
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
Posted by: KG at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (bSogd)
I'm not curious about what happens on that blog anymore.
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
Posted by: KG at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (bSogd)
I'm not curious about what happens on that blog anymore.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:56 PM (F6/Mp)
376
Scotch nearby.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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*points down the street to the next whiskey bar*
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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*points down the street to the next whiskey bar*
Posted by: Jim Morrison at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (9mTYi)
377
Bernie will choose Fauxcahontas and she'll sing Lord, Won't You Buy Me a Mercedes Benz.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (Nwg0u)
378
375 Any bets on if Drudge even MENTIONS that Cruz picked Fiorina?
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
Posted by: KG at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (bSogd)
I'm not curious about what happens on that blog anymore.
I can't go there anymore either...
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
Posted by: KG at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (bSogd)
I'm not curious about what happens on that blog anymore.
I can't go there anymore either...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (O2RFr)
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"Since we went into Iraq and many people sacrificed, it is unacceptable to conclude that going in was a mistake?
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (NUqwG)"
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Apparently so. I mourn the loss of life and treasure but it was the wrong thing to do...WITH 20/20 HINDSIGHT.
Who could have guessed that the aftermath would be so badly managed or that America would have voted in Preznint Shit Midas. But mostly Preznint Shit Midas.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:34 PM (NUqwG)"
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Apparently so. I mourn the loss of life and treasure but it was the wrong thing to do...WITH 20/20 HINDSIGHT.
Who could have guessed that the aftermath would be so badly managed or that America would have voted in Preznint Shit Midas. But mostly Preznint Shit Midas.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (AhyHb)
380
she gets to hang out with the cruz girls.....oh boy
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (0O7c5)
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Any bets on if Drudge even MENTIONS that Cruz picked Fiorina?
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
Posted by: KG at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (bSogd)
yeah, he's lost it too
It's become almost comical - the Drudge blackout of all (arguably) positive news regarding Cruz.
He's an expert propagandist, I'll give him that.
Posted by: KG at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (bSogd)
yeah, he's lost it too
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (qCMvj)
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Tina Fey WILL do Fiorina, count on it. And endless mockery by the Media. Funny how the Left gleefully eviscerate a woman if she's not "correct", but Feminism!!1!
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (zuTLp)
They perceive them as traitors and their existence is an offence. It's probably close to apostasy in islam.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:54 PM (zuTLp)
They perceive them as traitors and their existence is an offence. It's probably close to apostasy in islam.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (F6/Mp)
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Re: the Senate elections...My money says Illinois goes into Chapter 7 bankruptcy before the election and is dissolved.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (hqZPQ)
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I well remember George W. Bush staunchly pledging on the campaign trail that his administration would abjure any costly, futile attempts at "nation-building" abroad.
Its almost as if people don't even comprehend what the term "nation building" means. Sad, really.
Hint: it does not mean 'rebuilding a nation we destroyed a terrorist-sponsoring, terrorist-harboring genocidal maniac who violated a cease fire for more than a decade in'
Its almost as if people don't even comprehend what the term "nation building" means. Sad, really.
Hint: it does not mean 'rebuilding a nation we destroyed a terrorist-sponsoring, terrorist-harboring genocidal maniac who violated a cease fire for more than a decade in'
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (39g3+)
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CRUZ/FIORINA 2016: Those Faces!
Posted by: Andy Warhol at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (uz/Pv)
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I badly want this primary season to be over. I'm resigned to Hillary Clinton presidency either way, so part of me wants Trump to win so that I can just wash my hands of it all.
I'm looking forward to getting out of politics entirely.
I'm looking forward to getting out of politics entirely.
Posted by: SparcVark at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (nKOXj)
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Trump picking Carson as a running mate makes cynical sense. Although blacks and Hispanics both vote Democrat, as a general rule of thumb, they hate each other. The jobs done by Latino immigrants would largely be filled by blacks if employers did not have such a large workforce of illegal aliens with a reputation for working hard and cheap and without a bad attitude.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (MpvuV)
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I really dislike Kasich, but I can see a case being made for him for Trump's ticket.
You win Ohio and it's VERY hard for Hillary to become President.
Make it a Rust Belt ticket, maybe steal away PA. Bush came within almost a point in 2004. A Trump message would resonate in places like that.
You win Ohio and it's VERY hard for Hillary to become President.
Make it a Rust Belt ticket, maybe steal away PA. Bush came within almost a point in 2004. A Trump message would resonate in places like that.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (sDOgQ)
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here's already a Dem in the IL seat. He just pretends to be a Republican
Quietman. NC is about the same. They just sit on the right side at committee hearings.
Quietman. NC is about the same. They just sit on the right side at committee hearings.
Posted by: Golfman at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (ciIVZ)
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I'm not voting for Trump and it has nothing to do with my chromosomes. I don't even think he is misogynistic. I can believe he tends to view women as objects, but that doesn't mean he hates them.
I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (6bMel)
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LA got a big green fire ball last night. The aliens have landed!
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Bernie phoned home to the mothership.
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Bernie phoned home to the mothership.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (Nwg0u)
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My three main policy priorities are:
War with France.
Tougher sentences for geography teachers.
And a right royal kick up the Prince's backside!
My three main policy priorities are:
War with France.
Tougher sentences for geography teachers.
And a right royal kick up the Prince's backside!
Posted by: Pitt the Younger at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (40k54)
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I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
Me either....
Me either....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (O2RFr)
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Bernie will choose Fauxcahontas and she'll sing Lord, Won't You Buy Me a Mercedes Benz
Frankly, that would be hilarious. Just thinking about it makes me chuckle. Probably got that great a singing voice too.
Frankly, that would be hilarious. Just thinking about it makes me chuckle. Probably got that great a singing voice too.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (8ZHTC)
396
I will vote for anyone to deny Hillary. Benghazi
Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (zOTsN)
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She's be a strong alt POTUS if need be. No issues with that.
Ted stayed true to his strategy - Outsider, Constitutionalist... etc
consistent
She's be a strong alt POTUS if need be. No issues with that.
Ted stayed true to his strategy - Outsider, Constitutionalist... etc
consistent
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (qCMvj)
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I can't go there anymore either...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (O2RFr)
Gagged on the Cruz bias. The Christian hate sent red flags up too. Never really saw it till this year.
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (O2RFr)
Gagged on the Cruz bias. The Christian hate sent red flags up too. Never really saw it till this year.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (F6/Mp)
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>>>she gets to hang out with the cruz girls.....oh boy
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (0O7c5)<<<
At least she gets to have company. Donald locks me in the cargo hold of the plane.
**sadface**
**opens bag of M+Ms, pours them into box of M+Ms, eats his sadness away**
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2016 04:57 PM (0O7c5)<<<
At least she gets to have company. Donald locks me in the cargo hold of the plane.
**sadface**
**opens bag of M+Ms, pours them into box of M+Ms, eats his sadness away**
Posted by: Krispy Kreme Christie at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (H9MG5)
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Watched a few minutes of Carly's speech.
I originally liked her when she first announced her candidacy. Then, the more I watched her, the more I began to dislike her mannerisms.
She is really great at being an attack dog. She , however, is attacking not just Hillary, but Trump and it's pretty nasty. I get that she isn't going to vote or support Trump when he is nominated, but I'm not particularly impressed or happy that a Republican candidate is on CNN and all the outlets screeching about what a disaster Trump will be because he is just like Hillary.
While doing this, she is constantly flipping her head back and forth like a bobble doll in the back window of 88 Old's Cutlass. She looks down her nose a lot.
Superficial complaints from me, sure. But what about the rest of the vaginamericans who don't have as much immersion in politics as I do.
I'm telling you now, they will think she is a major bitch and she slept with Ted to get the VP nod.
It's how vaginamericans think and react. We tend to be catty and suspicious by nature and Carly was not a smart move for Ted.
I originally liked her when she first announced her candidacy. Then, the more I watched her, the more I began to dislike her mannerisms.
She is really great at being an attack dog. She , however, is attacking not just Hillary, but Trump and it's pretty nasty. I get that she isn't going to vote or support Trump when he is nominated, but I'm not particularly impressed or happy that a Republican candidate is on CNN and all the outlets screeching about what a disaster Trump will be because he is just like Hillary.
While doing this, she is constantly flipping her head back and forth like a bobble doll in the back window of 88 Old's Cutlass. She looks down her nose a lot.
Superficial complaints from me, sure. But what about the rest of the vaginamericans who don't have as much immersion in politics as I do.
I'm telling you now, they will think she is a major bitch and she slept with Ted to get the VP nod.
It's how vaginamericans think and react. We tend to be catty and suspicious by nature and Carly was not a smart move for Ted.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (6YRzC)
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"Bonuses should be given for every U.S. Senator, every Congressman, every Governor, every legislative chamber held, every major city mayor, and on % of people with a GOP county commissioner.
Posted by: The Allocating Hat at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (vBeA5)"
I could live with that. I don't want to dump on the blue state Republicans. They have enough grief to deal with at home. It's just that we can't let states that don't deliver pick our presidential nominee.
Red States and Purple States should be weighted more heavily than Blue States. I'd downgrade the swing states too except it's important to create incentives.
Some states don't register voters by party so holding a closed primary is impossible without some other mechanism like requiring people to buy party memberships. That's an awful idea - see Jeremy Corbyn's election to Labor Party Leader for an example (elected by hordes of far left youngsters buying a membership for about $15).
Open primary states should only be awarding on a proportional basis to weaken the impact of mischievous Dems and disconnected Independents.
Posted by: The Allocating Hat at April 27, 2016 04:51 PM (vBeA5)"
I could live with that. I don't want to dump on the blue state Republicans. They have enough grief to deal with at home. It's just that we can't let states that don't deliver pick our presidential nominee.
Red States and Purple States should be weighted more heavily than Blue States. I'd downgrade the swing states too except it's important to create incentives.
Some states don't register voters by party so holding a closed primary is impossible without some other mechanism like requiring people to buy party memberships. That's an awful idea - see Jeremy Corbyn's election to Labor Party Leader for an example (elected by hordes of far left youngsters buying a membership for about $15).
Open primary states should only be awarding on a proportional basis to weaken the impact of mischievous Dems and disconnected Independents.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (UYQcx)
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Trump picking Carson as a running mate makes cynical sense. Although blacks and Hispanics both vote Democrat, as a general rule of thumb, they hate each other. The jobs done by Latino immigrants would largely be filled by blacks if employers did not have such a large workforce of illegal aliens with a reputation for working hard and cheap and without a bad attitude.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole
I agree, and it really doesn't take much to completely change the map.
If Trump could capture 15% of the black vote, it would be a rout. That seems really plausible to me if you had Ben Carson.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole
I agree, and it really doesn't take much to completely change the map.
If Trump could capture 15% of the black vote, it would be a rout. That seems really plausible to me if you had Ben Carson.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (sDOgQ)
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Trump picking Carson as a running mate makes cynical sense.
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I don't think it makes cynical sense, it makes perfect sense. The outsider ticket. Carson has high positives. Will add some sanity to the ticket.
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I don't think it makes cynical sense, it makes perfect sense. The outsider ticket. Carson has high positives. Will add some sanity to the ticket.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (gmeXX)
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Eh, Drudge is in the tank for Trump, like others are in the tank for Cruz. Still my first stop for news, because I don't care if he backs Trump. The site is very good.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (zuTLp)
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I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
He's the same kind of sophist unqualified egotist, but he's not hardly the same ultra radical red extremist as Obama.
He's the same kind of sophist unqualified egotist, but he's not hardly the same ultra radical red extremist as Obama.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (39g3+)
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Hi big announcement?
We're all gonna get shirts O.K?
Other than Reagan in 76' I don't think any candidate has announced a Veep pick until after the election. I like Ted and I know he's running out of options, but Carly? Really? I don't see how that's supposed to excite people. Why would she say yes to Ted when he's mathematically eliminated?
We're all gonna get shirts O.K?
Other than Reagan in 76' I don't think any candidate has announced a Veep pick until after the election. I like Ted and I know he's running out of options, but Carly? Really? I don't see how that's supposed to excite people. Why would she say yes to Ted when he's mathematically eliminated?
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (m6oW5)
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>>>>Ah a singing VP. The nomination is surely Cruz's now.
Is that like a Singing Nun or Singing Detective
Cop Rock
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.I thought it was a Flying Nun.
Is that like a Singing Nun or Singing Detective
Cop Rock
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.I thought it was a Flying Nun.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (iONHu)
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Trump picking Carson as a running mate makes cynical sense. Although blacks and Hispanics both vote Democrat, as a general rule of thumb, they hate each other. The jobs done by Latino immigrants would largely be filled by blacks if employers did not have such a large workforce of illegal aliens with a reputation for working hard and cheap and without a bad attitude.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (MpvuV)
Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
And blacks will still vote for Hillary regardless, for some reason.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (MpvuV)
Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
And blacks will still vote for Hillary regardless, for some reason.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:01 PM (6bMel)
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I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange
skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
ding ding ding
Nothing about "style points" or any of that other nonsense. It is the fact that he is (a) a person with questionable moral standards, at best, and (b) a person who holds generally left-of-center views, to the degree that he can be pinned down on any particular view at all, which is rather difficult because he has no consistent set of principles to draw upon.
skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
ding ding ding
Nothing about "style points" or any of that other nonsense. It is the fact that he is (a) a person with questionable moral standards, at best, and (b) a person who holds generally left-of-center views, to the degree that he can be pinned down on any particular view at all, which is rather difficult because he has no consistent set of principles to draw upon.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:01 PM (dpnZC)
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Trump picking Carson as a running mate makes cynical sense. Although blacks and Hispanics both vote Democrat, as a general rule of thumb, they hate each other. The jobs done by Latino immigrants would largely be filled by blacks if employers did not have such a large workforce of illegal aliens with a reputation for working hard and cheap and without a bad attitude.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (MpvuV)
I don't think Trump will. I'm thinking Trump see Carson as a chump to sell steaks to.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (MpvuV)
I don't think Trump will. I'm thinking Trump see Carson as a chump to sell steaks to.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 05:01 PM (F6/Mp)
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396
I will vote for anyone to deny Hillary. Benghazi
Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (zOTsN)
me too....Chris Stevens, Tyrone Wood, Sean Smith and Glen Doherty
I will vote for anyone to deny Hillary. Benghazi
Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (zOTsN)
me too....Chris Stevens, Tyrone Wood, Sean Smith and Glen Doherty
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (0O7c5)
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Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
I laughed, but it's true...
Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
I laughed, but it's true...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (O2RFr)
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My money says Illinois goes into Chapter 7 bankruptcy before the election and is dissolved.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
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I call dibs on the Caterpillar factory... and the Rock Island Arsenal.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
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I call dibs on the Caterpillar factory... and the Rock Island Arsenal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (9mTYi)
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He's the same kind of sophist unqualified egotist, but he's not hardly the same ultra radical red extremist as Obama.
No, he's not a radical extremist. He's an unprincipled demagogue. Hard to say which is worse.
No, he's not a radical extremist. He's an unprincipled demagogue. Hard to say which is worse.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (dpnZC)
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Why would Cruz announce a running mate for a political race he won't be running?
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
Posted by: Max Power at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (q177U)
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Good lord,
Kasich is going to have to answer for taking the Fed Money for Medicaid expansion. Its already busting through its projected shortfalls as it is...
...mind you while questioning how you could be considered a "person of faith" if you disagreed with his position.
Yeah no thanks.
Kasich is going to have to answer for taking the Fed Money for Medicaid expansion. Its already busting through its projected shortfalls as it is...
...mind you while questioning how you could be considered a "person of faith" if you disagreed with his position.
Yeah no thanks.
Posted by: H Badger at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (n/0Nw)
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For those who missed it, Brent Bozell lays out the case against Trump plainly, clearly and point by point.
Worth a read for those on the fence or at least Trump supporters with an open mind.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/26/
brent-bozell-an-open-letter-to-conservative-friends-supporting-donald-trump/
Worth a read for those on the fence or at least Trump supporters with an open mind.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/26/
brent-bozell-an-open-letter-to-conservative-friends-supporting-donald-trump/
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (qCMvj)
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>>>No, he's not a radical extremist. He's an unprincipled demagogue. Hard to say which is worse.
Hard for you, perhaps.
Hard for you, perhaps.
Posted by: Max Power at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (q177U)
420
Slug boy is back. Feh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (p4UlV)
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Trump picking Carson as a running mate makes cynical sense. Although
blacks and Hispanics both vote Democrat, as a general rule of thumb,
they hate each other. The jobs done by Latino immigrants would largely
be filled by blacks if employers did not have such a large workforce of
illegal aliens with a reputation for working hard and cheap and without a
bad attitude.
le sigh
*pines for the day when we on the right rejected the calls to engage in identity politics.... *
Trump picking Carson as a running mate makes cynical sense. Although
blacks and Hispanics both vote Democrat, as a general rule of thumb,
they hate each other. The jobs done by Latino immigrants would largely
be filled by blacks if employers did not have such a large workforce of
illegal aliens with a reputation for working hard and cheap and without a
bad attitude.
le sigh
*pines for the day when we on the right rejected the calls to engage in identity politics.... *
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (dpnZC)
422
Heh, I love that Amazon ad where the lady orders the doggy door for her tiny sad horse.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (39g3+)
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393 I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
Me either....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (O2RFr)
so the new talking point is that Trump, is Obama...
OK then...
393 I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
Me either....
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 04:59 PM (O2RFr)
so the new talking point is that Trump, is Obama...
OK then...
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (qf6WZ)
424
Voulez Vous Coucher Avec Moi, Ce Soir?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (Nwg0u)
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Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
_________________
If a voter is swayed by gaffes, Trump has already lost their vote a long time ago.
But even when there isn't a real gaffe, the media will make one up like "binders full of women"
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If a voter is swayed by gaffes, Trump has already lost their vote a long time ago.
But even when there isn't a real gaffe, the media will make one up like "binders full of women"
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:04 PM (sDOgQ)
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:04 PM (O2RFr)
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Carly did a nice job (in my opinion) of reworking her stump speech to support Cruz. She's much better than Cruz at creating some drama with her words.
I like Cruz, and I'd be happy to see him get the nomination (and overjoyed to see him elected in November), but he drones on sometimes.
I like Cruz, and I'd be happy to see him get the nomination (and overjoyed to see him elected in November), but he drones on sometimes.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 05:04 PM (UYQcx)
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I call dibs on the Caterpillar factory... and the Rock Island Arsenal.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM
Ooh, ooh, I want ADM!!!!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM
Ooh, ooh, I want ADM!!!!
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:04 PM (zuTLp)
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419
>>>No, he's not a radical extremist. He's an unprincipled demagogue. Hard to say which is worse.
Hard for you, perhaps.
Posted by: Max Power at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (q177U)
Well, when confronted with a new situation, the radical extremist will pursue the course of action that his ideology dictates, regardless of the facts or extenuating circumstances at hand.
The unprincipled demagogue will just do whatever the polls tell him to do, regardless of any moral or principled reasons not to.
Either way leads to some pretty crappy decision-making.
>>>No, he's not a radical extremist. He's an unprincipled demagogue. Hard to say which is worse.
Hard for you, perhaps.
Posted by: Max Power at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (q177U)
Well, when confronted with a new situation, the radical extremist will pursue the course of action that his ideology dictates, regardless of the facts or extenuating circumstances at hand.
The unprincipled demagogue will just do whatever the polls tell him to do, regardless of any moral or principled reasons not to.
Either way leads to some pretty crappy decision-making.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (dpnZC)
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He may make another speech-from-'prompter before he goes on the couch with Megyn.
If she really wanted to zing him, she would ask some detailed questions about the various things of which he speaks in these written-by-others presentations.
I did not watch or listen to this one, his first, but heard it was seventeen minutes long, and kind of boring.
Was wondering if this a.k.a. "presidential" thing, boring as hell, fires up his rabid fans even more, or if they are actually turned off by him going "serious."
If she really wanted to zing him, she would ask some detailed questions about the various things of which he speaks in these written-by-others presentations.
I did not watch or listen to this one, his first, but heard it was seventeen minutes long, and kind of boring.
Was wondering if this a.k.a. "presidential" thing, boring as hell, fires up his rabid fans even more, or if they are actually turned off by him going "serious."
Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (U6f54)
431
412
Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
I laughed, but it's true...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (O2RFr)
I see...
And now Carsons insane...
OK then...
Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
I laughed, but it's true...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (O2RFr)
I see...
And now Carsons insane...
OK then...
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (qf6WZ)
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Well. Carly seems to have picked up the She-Woman-Trump Hater-That-Posts-On-AOSHQ vote.
So , like , +4 maybe 5.
Smart move.
So , like , +4 maybe 5.
Smart move.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (O2RFr)
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OT:
Apple campus death: Employee dead in company conference room in 'isolated incident'
http://tinyurl.com/j929xxm
Apple campus death: Employee dead in company conference room in 'isolated incident'
http://tinyurl.com/j929xxm
Posted by: The Computatoinal Hat at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (vBeA5)
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My money says Illinois goes into Chapter 7 bankruptcy before the election and is dissolved.
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Colorado is not taking it. Give it to Cifornia.
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Colorado is not taking it. Give it to Cifornia.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (Nwg0u)
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She's much better than Cruz at creating some drama with her words.
She is. She was my first choice.
Cruz was sixth or seventh. He's my guy now, even though I think it all ended last night.
She is. She was my first choice.
Cruz was sixth or seventh. He's my guy now, even though I think it all ended last night.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (1xUj/)
437
Bolling on The Five, idiot.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (qCMvj)
Yep. Used to like him.
He is angling for a White House invite from Teh Donald.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (qCMvj)
Yep. Used to like him.
He is angling for a White House invite from Teh Donald.
Posted by: Golfman at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (ciIVZ)
438
Susanna Martinez makes more sense
Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (zOTsN)
439
>>>Heh, I love that Amazon ad where the lady orders the doggy door for her tiny sad horse.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (39g3+)<<<
Mama T just bought one of those for me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:03 PM (39g3+)<<<
Mama T just bought one of those for me.
Posted by: Mr. Teresa Heinz Kerry at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (H9MG5)
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Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
Yeah I don't think Carson would make much a dent in the black vote, not much more than Trump is already likely to get.
Yeah I don't think Carson would make much a dent in the black vote, not much more than Trump is already likely to get.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (39g3+)
441
Apparently you can't teach conservative dogs new tricks. I won't be retiring for 30 years and I don't have kids yet, so this shit matters to me. It makes a difference if there's a pro-American capitalist in office vs an anti-American socialist. I don't get to sit around and say "oh he's just like Obama" based on fuck-all, i mean jack squat, nothing but heartburn over "your guy" getting outplayed.
This is our country now. This is what it takes to win in today's electorate. If you're done with politics then clear out so some fresh faces can try to succeed in turning back the socialists where you failed.
Talk all the shit you want about millenials, they're YOUR kids.
Bang up job you bitter old coots.
This is our country now. This is what it takes to win in today's electorate. If you're done with politics then clear out so some fresh faces can try to succeed in turning back the socialists where you failed.
Talk all the shit you want about millenials, they're YOUR kids.
Bang up job you bitter old coots.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (xuouz)
442
Last 24 hours
Trump
5 state crushing sweet
High profile foreign policy address
Bobby Knight
Ted
Mathematically eliminated from winning the nomination
Announces Carly as his running mate prematurely
Gee it's awfully close, but I think the edge goes to Trump today.
Trump
5 state crushing sweet
High profile foreign policy address
Bobby Knight
Ted
Mathematically eliminated from winning the nomination
Announces Carly as his running mate prematurely
Gee it's awfully close, but I think the edge goes to Trump today.
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (0sLvz)
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He's the same kind of sophist unqualified egotist, but he's not hardly the same ultra radical red extremist as Obama.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (39g3+)
I agree. Obama actually has principles and doesn't behave like an insane toddler. You think Obama's interaction with foreign leaders was bad. Just wait till Crazy Donnie insults Angela Merkel's looks. At least, it will be entertaining.
As my dearest nephew said after he watched some videos of Trump and his surrogates: Donald Trump is what you would get if Kanye West ran for president.
I'm just waiting till he starts showing his liberal colors during the general campaign season, if he wins the nom. I wonder how many people would still be willing to hold their nose and vote for him.
I live in PA, and Hillary is going to win here anyway, so you can just ignore me.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (39g3+)
I agree. Obama actually has principles and doesn't behave like an insane toddler. You think Obama's interaction with foreign leaders was bad. Just wait till Crazy Donnie insults Angela Merkel's looks. At least, it will be entertaining.
As my dearest nephew said after he watched some videos of Trump and his surrogates: Donald Trump is what you would get if Kanye West ran for president.
I'm just waiting till he starts showing his liberal colors during the general campaign season, if he wins the nom. I wonder how many people would still be willing to hold their nose and vote for him.
I live in PA, and Hillary is going to win here anyway, so you can just ignore me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (6bMel)
444
I see...
And now Carsons insane...
OK then...
Just a tad "off."
Posted by: donna
Out of curiosity, what has he said that's so crazy?
I heard about he pyramid thing, but that seems so trivial in my opinion.
I'm sure Joe Biden still has him beat in the crazy department.
And now Carsons insane...
OK then...
Just a tad "off."
Posted by: donna
Out of curiosity, what has he said that's so crazy?
I heard about he pyramid thing, but that seems so trivial in my opinion.
I'm sure Joe Biden still has him beat in the crazy department.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (sDOgQ)
445
Apple campus death: Employee dead in company conference room in 'isolated incident'
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His last words were, "No iWatch."
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His last words were, "No iWatch."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (Nwg0u)
446
I live in PA, and Hillary is going to win here anyway, so you can just ignore me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (6bMel)
I'm in CA. so they can ignore Me too...
I live in PA, and Hillary is going to win here anyway, so you can just ignore me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (6bMel)
I'm in CA. so they can ignore Me too...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (O2RFr)
447
so the new talking point is that Trump, is Obama...
Nah, he's still Schwarzenegger/Jesse Ventura
Nah, he's still Schwarzenegger/Jesse Ventura
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (8ZHTC)
449
I'm sure Joe Biden still has him beat in the crazy department.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (sDOgQ)
Absolutely.... No contest...
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (sDOgQ)
Absolutely.... No contest...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (O2RFr)
450
I'm not voting for Trump and it has nothing to do with my chromosomes. I don't even think he is misogynistic. I can believe he tends to view women as objects, but that doesn't mean he hates them.
I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (6bMel)
I mostly agree, but my chromosomes kicked in the night the pig made that tweet about Heidi Cruz. I decided then to do anything I can to keep him out of office. Thats was the icing on the cake though. I already knew he was a big government liberal and unfit for office in other ways.
I just refuse to vote for another Obama just because he's wearing orange skin and a dead squirrel on his head. The (R) doesn't fool me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 04:58 PM (6bMel)
I mostly agree, but my chromosomes kicked in the night the pig made that tweet about Heidi Cruz. I decided then to do anything I can to keep him out of office. Thats was the icing on the cake though. I already knew he was a big government liberal and unfit for office in other ways.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (ozZau)
451
444 I see...
And now Carsons insane...
OK then...
Just a tad "off."
Posted by: donna
Out of curiosity, what has he said that's so crazy?
I heard about he pyramid thing, but that seems so trivial in my opinion.
I'm sure Joe Biden still has him beat in the crazy department.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (sDOgQ)
He was declared Insane as soon as he started to support Trump...
And now Carsons insane...
OK then...
Just a tad "off."
Posted by: donna
Out of curiosity, what has he said that's so crazy?
I heard about he pyramid thing, but that seems so trivial in my opinion.
I'm sure Joe Biden still has him beat in the crazy department.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:08 PM (sDOgQ)
He was declared Insane as soon as he started to support Trump...
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (qf6WZ)
452
If you're done with politics then clear out so some fresh faces can try to succeed in turning back the socialists where you failed.
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Funny, I thought that was a reason to support Cruz. But sure, let's turn to another baby boomer who prefers crony capitalism.
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Funny, I thought that was a reason to support Cruz. But sure, let's turn to another baby boomer who prefers crony capitalism.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (gmeXX)
453
Talk all the shit you want about millenials, they're YOUR kids.
Bang up job you bitter old coots.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (xuouz)
Children used to be considered a blessing, now they're a curse. Damn parents raised em wrong.
Bang up job you bitter old coots.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (xuouz)
Children used to be considered a blessing, now they're a curse. Damn parents raised em wrong.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (F6/Mp)
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (kfoLf)
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I am going to keep this thread for posterity.
1. Trump is not cheaTED at the convention and crushes Hillary.
2. cheaTED wins by skullduggery....er established rules and goes down in flames. Along with the HOR, senate, and the state houses.
3. The republican party completely explodes and goes to never-never land with the Whigs when the GOPe install a third candidate.
You know you #noTrumpers have been so personally viscous that those of us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
1. Trump is not cheaTED at the convention and crushes Hillary.
2. cheaTED wins by skullduggery....er established rules and goes down in flames. Along with the HOR, senate, and the state houses.
3. The republican party completely explodes and goes to never-never land with the Whigs when the GOPe install a third candidate.
You know you #noTrumpers have been so personally viscous that those of us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (AhyHb)
457
The Cult of Cruz just went full Moonie.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (8ZHTC)
458
Yeah I don't think Carson would make much a dent in the black vote, not much more than Trump is already likely to get.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I think he would, and all it takes is a small dent.
But I think his bigger selling point is it's going to be a harder sell for the media and Democrats to paint Trump as George Wallace when he has a black running mate.
If Trump is a little less radioactive, it could make a big difference with female voters.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I think he would, and all it takes is a small dent.
But I think his bigger selling point is it's going to be a harder sell for the media and Democrats to paint Trump as George Wallace when he has a black running mate.
If Trump is a little less radioactive, it could make a big difference with female voters.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM (sDOgQ)
459
Cruz was sixth or seventh. He's my guy now, even though I think it all ended last night.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (1xUj/)
Don't be dismayed. I believe Trump was always expected to clean up in the NE and that this doesn't really change his electoral calculus (by the way, that's a stupid term) from before.
I would encourage all Cruz supporters to still go out and vote for him even if you feel discouraged. After all, the actual voting process isn't arduous and you get to do your part.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (1xUj/)
Don't be dismayed. I believe Trump was always expected to clean up in the NE and that this doesn't really change his electoral calculus (by the way, that's a stupid term) from before.
I would encourage all Cruz supporters to still go out and vote for him even if you feel discouraged. After all, the actual voting process isn't arduous and you get to do your part.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM (6bMel)
460
>>Apparently you can't teach conservative dogs new tricks. I won't be retiring for 30 years
>>Bang up job you bitter old coots.
Psst. You won't be retiring in 30 years. Or ever. You're so busy worrying about winning you never bothered to listen to some of the batshit crazy shit Trump is promising like balancing the budget in 8 years without touching entitlements.
That's what you've won, more insane shit that won't fix anything and will only exacerbate the problem. You're actually arguing for a guy who represents all the shit you say you hate.
You're welcome junior.
>>Bang up job you bitter old coots.
Psst. You won't be retiring in 30 years. Or ever. You're so busy worrying about winning you never bothered to listen to some of the batshit crazy shit Trump is promising like balancing the budget in 8 years without touching entitlements.
That's what you've won, more insane shit that won't fix anything and will only exacerbate the problem. You're actually arguing for a guy who represents all the shit you say you hate.
You're welcome junior.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM (/tuJf)
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Nothing about "style points" or any of that other nonsense. It is the
fact that he is (a) a person with questionable moral standards, at best
At best. He is a distillation of pure amorality. Whatever works for him at the moment. The only potential saving grace should he win, which I highly doubt, would be that he sees America's interests and his own as the same.
fact that he is (a) a person with questionable moral standards, at best
At best. He is a distillation of pure amorality. Whatever works for him at the moment. The only potential saving grace should he win, which I highly doubt, would be that he sees America's interests and his own as the same.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM (LAe3v)
462
It's over, barring some really bizarre happening.
I wanted Jindal, then Walker, and settled for Cruz.
I get Trump. He out politicked Cruz hands down, which sort of surprised me.
I will vote for him cause she- beast, but the Dems have a monster demographic edge.
Maybe America getting their nose rubbed in 4 years of Hillary, after the Imposter may make them go Right. (I know, I know)
I wanted Jindal, then Walker, and settled for Cruz.
I get Trump. He out politicked Cruz hands down, which sort of surprised me.
I will vote for him cause she- beast, but the Dems have a monster demographic edge.
Maybe America getting their nose rubbed in 4 years of Hillary, after the Imposter may make them go Right. (I know, I know)
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM (zuTLp)
463
Trump referred to Trump in his victory speech last night so much that it made Kanye West blush.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (mcm0N)
464
I heard about he pyramid thing, but that seems so trivial in my opinion.
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His religious beliefs may seem kookoo bananas but our religious beliefs seem kookoo bananas to a lot of people. If we expect respect, we need to give it.
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His religious beliefs may seem kookoo bananas but our religious beliefs seem kookoo bananas to a lot of people. If we expect respect, we need to give it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (Nwg0u)
465
I live in PA, and Hillary is going to win here anyway, so you can just ignore me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (6bMel)
The turnout for Trump in northeast PA was pretty surprising. Trump got as many votes as Obama in 2008, while Hillary got less than Mitt in 2012.
PA could actually be in play.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (6bMel)
The turnout for Trump in northeast PA was pretty surprising. Trump got as many votes as Obama in 2008, while Hillary got less than Mitt in 2012.
PA could actually be in play.
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (RcpcZ)
466
You know you #noTrumpers have been so personally viscous that those of us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (AhyHb)
Need to pet a kitty?
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (AhyHb)
Need to pet a kitty?
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (F6/Mp)
467
This is our country now.
No, its not. Not yet. Its still in the hands of the Boomers, God help us.
No, its not. Not yet. Its still in the hands of the Boomers, God help us.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (39g3+)
468
I don't get to sit around and say "oh he's just like Obama" based on
fuck-all, i mean jack squat, nothing but heartburn over "your guy"
getting outplayed.
Wait, so you honestly don't understand why people are making comparisons between Trump 2016 and Obama, particularly Obama while campaigning in 2008? It's not because us Cruzers are bitter that Cruz isn't doing as well as Trump. It's because there really are some definitive comparisons to be made, such as the ability of both 2016 Trump and 2008 Obama to just make vague empty statements that everyone pours their own content into.
"Hope and Change" sounds a lot like "Make America Great Again"
fuck-all, i mean jack squat, nothing but heartburn over "your guy"
getting outplayed.
Wait, so you honestly don't understand why people are making comparisons between Trump 2016 and Obama, particularly Obama while campaigning in 2008? It's not because us Cruzers are bitter that Cruz isn't doing as well as Trump. It's because there really are some definitive comparisons to be made, such as the ability of both 2016 Trump and 2008 Obama to just make vague empty statements that everyone pours their own content into.
"Hope and Change" sounds a lot like "Make America Great Again"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (dpnZC)
469
"Gee it's awfully close, but I think the edge goes to Trump today"
That string of bad weeks he had doesn't seem that recent anymore.
That string of bad weeks he had doesn't seem that recent anymore.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 27, 2016 05:13 PM (LA7Cm)
470
> I would encourage all Cruz supporters to still go out and vote for him even if you feel discouraged. After all, the actual voting process isn't arduous and you get to do your part.
Yes, you can always write him in on the ballot in November!
Yes, you can always write him in on the ballot in November!
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 05:13 PM (IQI2h)
471
In addition to recycling Tina Fey to make fun of Carly Fiorina, I wonder if the Democrats will also bring back the whole "Sarah Palin is a cunt" campaign against Fiorona?
And all the while they will be accusing Republicans of not respecting women.
And all the while they will be accusing Republicans of not respecting women.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (MpvuV)
472
One thing I really like about Carly is a couple times in the debates I saw her verbally slit Hillary open and rip her guts out. It was awesome. She's also very articulate on principles.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (ozZau)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (BK3ZS)
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On the Ben Carson thing, just a little anecdote.
I knew a guy that was a campaign consultant for an elected Republican Congressman, and the candidate polled poorly with females because he was a firebrand.
When they aired a campaign video of the Congressman with black children at an event, the focus group that watched it went through the roof with females.
It wasn't about capturing the black vote, it was aimed at suburban house wives.
I knew a guy that was a campaign consultant for an elected Republican Congressman, and the candidate polled poorly with females because he was a firebrand.
When they aired a campaign video of the Congressman with black children at an event, the focus group that watched it went through the roof with females.
It wasn't about capturing the black vote, it was aimed at suburban house wives.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (sDOgQ)
475
454 He was declared Insane as soon as he started to support Trump...
Lighten up Francis...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (O2RFr)
LOL...
Why... the typical leftist dismissal of an idea... when someone is called on their rhetoric...
I see.... OK then...
Next up??? The Science is settled?
Lighten up Francis...
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (O2RFr)
LOL...
Why... the typical leftist dismissal of an idea... when someone is called on their rhetoric...
I see.... OK then...
Next up??? The Science is settled?
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (qf6WZ)
476
458 Yeah I don't think Carson would make much a dent in the black vote, not much more than Trump is already likely to get.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I think he would, and all it takes is a small dent.
But I think his bigger selling point is it's going to be a harder sell for the media and Democrats to paint Trump as George Wallace when he has a black running mate.
If Trump is a little less radioactive, it could make a big difference with female voters.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM (sDOgQ
Don't delude yourselves, esse. No importa.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I think he would, and all it takes is a small dent.
But I think his bigger selling point is it's going to be a harder sell for the media and Democrats to paint Trump as George Wallace when he has a black running mate.
If Trump is a little less radioactive, it could make a big difference with female voters.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM (sDOgQ
Don't delude yourselves, esse. No importa.
Posted by: The New Minority at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (48QDY)
477
Next up??? The Science is settled?
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (qf6WZ)
No, gender is a choice.
Posted by: Don Quixote at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (qf6WZ)
No, gender is a choice.
Posted by: Gender Curious Kitty at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (F6/Mp)
478
You know you #noTrumpers have been so personally viscous that those of
us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
Geez, you're thick.
us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
Geez, you're thick.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2016 05:14 PM (LAe3v)
479
MTF, #348:
"Once we had control of Iran's eastern border (Afghanistan) and the western border (Iraq) ..., why didn't we finish the job on the Mullahs?"
I cannot imagine how badly that would have gone. And that's no slur on our military, of which I am a (part-time and rather low-ranking) part.
Look at the Iraqi insurgency. Now imagine a country three times larger, with four times the population, and several thousand years with a national identity, far stronger than the current government. And don't listen to anyone who says the Persians hate that government and would have turned on it had we gone in. No, they'd have found unexpected reserves of devotion to Persia, and defended it fanatically in spite of helping the Mullahs.
Don't get me wrong. Iran is our enemy. Morally it deserved what you suggest. Practically, we may someday regret convincing ourselves that we didn't have to.
But if we'd gone in then, we'd have faced an insurgency that made Iraq's look trivial by comparison. And we'd never have been sure what we pre-empted, or whether we had to, and we'd have given up. Not our military; the people and the politicians at home who watch the bad news and say, This is awful. Let's make it stop.
So if nothing else, our Iraq experience inoculated us against a too-casual attitude toward the next front. Sorry to put it that way, Grammie Winger, and hat's off to your son.
"Once we had control of Iran's eastern border (Afghanistan) and the western border (Iraq) ..., why didn't we finish the job on the Mullahs?"
I cannot imagine how badly that would have gone. And that's no slur on our military, of which I am a (part-time and rather low-ranking) part.
Look at the Iraqi insurgency. Now imagine a country three times larger, with four times the population, and several thousand years with a national identity, far stronger than the current government. And don't listen to anyone who says the Persians hate that government and would have turned on it had we gone in. No, they'd have found unexpected reserves of devotion to Persia, and defended it fanatically in spite of helping the Mullahs.
Don't get me wrong. Iran is our enemy. Morally it deserved what you suggest. Practically, we may someday regret convincing ourselves that we didn't have to.
But if we'd gone in then, we'd have faced an insurgency that made Iraq's look trivial by comparison. And we'd never have been sure what we pre-empted, or whether we had to, and we'd have given up. Not our military; the people and the politicians at home who watch the bad news and say, This is awful. Let's make it stop.
So if nothing else, our Iraq experience inoculated us against a too-casual attitude toward the next front. Sorry to put it that way, Grammie Winger, and hat's off to your son.
Posted by: JPS at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (AVpph)
480
The turnout for Trump in northeast PA was pretty surprising. Trump got as many votes as Obama in 2008, while Hillary got less than Mitt in 2012.
PA could actually be in play.
Posted by: Ed Anger
The last poll I saw had Hilary and Trump separated by 2-3 points.
If Hillary loses PA, Trump is President.
I wouldn't write it off.
PA could actually be in play.
Posted by: Ed Anger
The last poll I saw had Hilary and Trump separated by 2-3 points.
If Hillary loses PA, Trump is President.
I wouldn't write it off.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (sDOgQ)
481
And I also reject the claim that Trump is any sort of "capitalist" by any textbook definition of the word. He is a crony corporatist, using government privileges and favors and coercion in order to make money. He certainly isn't a free-market capitalist by any stretch of the imagination.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (dpnZC)
482
I agree. Obama actually has principles and doesn't behave like an insane toddler.
wow
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (8ZHTC)
I didn't say they were good principles. They are toxic principles, but principles nonetheless.
And yes, trump dies behave like an out of control insane toddler.
Does that mean I prefer Obama to Trump? Hell no. Obama has accelerated the disintegration of this great country.
Doesn't mean I have to support Trump though.
wow
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (8ZHTC)
I didn't say they were good principles. They are toxic principles, but principles nonetheless.
And yes, trump dies behave like an out of control insane toddler.
Does that mean I prefer Obama to Trump? Hell no. Obama has accelerated the disintegration of this great country.
Doesn't mean I have to support Trump though.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (6bMel)
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MAJOR RECTUM at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (qul7b)
484
And all the while they will be accusing Republicans of not respecting women.
Why not, it worked last time.
And all the while they will be accusing Republicans of not respecting women.
Why not, it worked last time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 05:16 PM (39g3+)
485
Worth a read for those on the fence or at least Trump supporters with an open mind.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/26/
brent-bozell-an-open-letter-to-conservative-friends-supporting-donald-trump/
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (p4UlV)
"Is Donald Trump the answer? That question's on everyone's mind. But there needs to be another question answered first: Does Donald Trump mean a word he says? Are conservative leaders supporting Trump prepared to live with the consequences if he doesn't?"
Donald Trump is the answer to the failed GOP. Just by not being them and having their track record of failure theater. What he says is irrelevant to that purpose. Using that as your primary criteria betrays a complete (and probably willful) ignorance of the problem Trump solves.
"When President Trump shocks the civilized world by killing the children of terrorists, arming nations with nuclear weapons (you don't think Russia won't do likewise with its allies?) and breaking the Geneva Convention (God help our men and women captured by our enemies who will do the same) will you live with that?"
1. Reprisals work. This is the same "civilized" world that is importing rapefugees to rape their own children.
2. America is incapable of continuing to play world police. Bankrupt.
3. Terrorists don't follow Geneva conventions, and only deserve summary execution.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/26/
brent-bozell-an-open-letter-to-conservative-friends-supporting-donald-trump/
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 27, 2016 05:02 PM (p4UlV)
"Is Donald Trump the answer? That question's on everyone's mind. But there needs to be another question answered first: Does Donald Trump mean a word he says? Are conservative leaders supporting Trump prepared to live with the consequences if he doesn't?"
Donald Trump is the answer to the failed GOP. Just by not being them and having their track record of failure theater. What he says is irrelevant to that purpose. Using that as your primary criteria betrays a complete (and probably willful) ignorance of the problem Trump solves.
"When President Trump shocks the civilized world by killing the children of terrorists, arming nations with nuclear weapons (you don't think Russia won't do likewise with its allies?) and breaking the Geneva Convention (God help our men and women captured by our enemies who will do the same) will you live with that?"
1. Reprisals work. This is the same "civilized" world that is importing rapefugees to rape their own children.
2. America is incapable of continuing to play world police. Bankrupt.
3. Terrorists don't follow Geneva conventions, and only deserve summary execution.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:16 PM (uURQL)
486
I mostly agree, but my chromosomes kicked in the
night the pig made that tweet about Heidi Cruz. I decided then to do
anything I can to keep him out of office. Thats was the icing on the
cake though. I already knew he was a big government liberal and unfit
for office in other ways.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (ozZau)
And it bothers no one not one iota that Cruz surrogates started the shiite months earlier with Melania Trump.
night the pig made that tweet about Heidi Cruz. I decided then to do
anything I can to keep him out of office. Thats was the icing on the
cake though. I already knew he was a big government liberal and unfit
for office in other ways.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:09 PM (ozZau)
And it bothers no one not one iota that Cruz surrogates started the shiite months earlier with Melania Trump.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 05:16 PM (T78UI)
487
As my dearest nephew said after he watched some
videos of Trump and his surrogates: Donald Trump is what you would get
if Kanye West ran for president.
I'm just waiting till he starts showing his liberal colors during
the general campaign season, if he wins the nom. I wonder how many
people would still be willing to hold their nose and vote for him.
I live in PA, and Hillary is going to win here anyway, so you can just ignore me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (6bMel)
=====LOL because I dreamt that DT chose Kanye West for his running mate-- makes perfect sense. Reality show capitalists helping each other out.
I'm in Illinois. The only time my vote counts is in the primary.
videos of Trump and his surrogates: Donald Trump is what you would get
if Kanye West ran for president.
I'm just waiting till he starts showing his liberal colors during
the general campaign season, if he wins the nom. I wonder how many
people would still be willing to hold their nose and vote for him.
I live in PA, and Hillary is going to win here anyway, so you can just ignore me.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:07 PM (6bMel)
=====LOL because I dreamt that DT chose Kanye West for his running mate-- makes perfect sense. Reality show capitalists helping each other out.
I'm in Illinois. The only time my vote counts is in the primary.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 27, 2016 05:16 PM (MIKMs)
488
"Hope and Change" sounds a lot like "Make America Great Again"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (dpnZC)
Jeff, I get that. I know what Hillary is. Trump not until he got the office, so I can roll the dice.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (dpnZC)
Jeff, I get that. I know what Hillary is. Trump not until he got the office, so I can roll the dice.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:16 PM (zuTLp)
489
"This is our country now. This is what it takes to win in today's electorate. If you're done with politics then clear out so some fresh faces can try to succeed in turning back the socialists where you failed.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (xuouz)"
You got a mouse in your pocket, kari? Who is 'we'? The alt-right? You and the other 10 young conservatives in New England? Yeah, the way to beat back the communists is to hand control of the party over to 20-somethings. Because most of us are such rock-ribbed conservatives.
Isn't conservatism about personal responsibility, kari? Don't blame our parents for our generation being trash. We got here because many baby boomers were red diaper babies, but I don't blame the greatest generation.
As for 'this is what it takes to win,' we haven't won jack. How about Trump gets a single lead in a H2H poll for the general before you start crowing about this grand new strategery being the blueprint for future GOP victories.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 05:06 PM (xuouz)"
You got a mouse in your pocket, kari? Who is 'we'? The alt-right? You and the other 10 young conservatives in New England? Yeah, the way to beat back the communists is to hand control of the party over to 20-somethings. Because most of us are such rock-ribbed conservatives.
Isn't conservatism about personal responsibility, kari? Don't blame our parents for our generation being trash. We got here because many baby boomers were red diaper babies, but I don't blame the greatest generation.
As for 'this is what it takes to win,' we haven't won jack. How about Trump gets a single lead in a H2H poll for the general before you start crowing about this grand new strategery being the blueprint for future GOP victories.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at April 27, 2016 05:17 PM (kumBu)
490
I don't think it makes cynical sense, it makes perfect sense. The outsider ticket. Carson has high positives. Will add some sanity to the ticket.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (gmeXX)
-----------
Disagree. Carson is a leaf in a hurricane when it comes to national politics.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 05:00 PM (gmeXX)
-----------
Disagree. Carson is a leaf in a hurricane when it comes to national politics.
Posted by: Soona at April 27, 2016 05:17 PM (Fmupd)
491
Have you heard the insane things Carson has said lately? Two people with crazy falling out of their mouth may not make for a great ticket.
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Their campaign song could be People Are Strange.
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Their campaign song could be People Are Strange.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:17 PM (Nwg0u)
492
You know you #noTrumpers have been so personally viscous that those of us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (AhyHb)
I've tried (with mixed success) not to be vicious to Trump supporters, most of whom are good people, but just to Trump. Trump's nightly misspelled hate-tweets and making of fun of disabled people, etc, justify my hatred of him.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican, Now Reregistered to VOTE TRUMP in California at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (AhyHb)
I've tried (with mixed success) not to be vicious to Trump supporters, most of whom are good people, but just to Trump. Trump's nightly misspelled hate-tweets and making of fun of disabled people, etc, justify my hatred of him.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (ozZau)
493
Yes, you can always write him in on the ballot in November!
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 05:13 PM (IQI2h)
Thank you for that (sarcastic) suggestion. In fact that is what I plan to do.
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 27, 2016 05:13 PM (IQI2h)
Thank you for that (sarcastic) suggestion. In fact that is what I plan to do.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (6bMel)
494
Wait, so you honestly don't understand why people are making comparisons between Trump 2016 and Obama, particularly Obama while campaigning in 2008? It's not because us Cruzers are bitter that Cruz isn't doing as well as Trump. It's because there really are some definitive comparisons to be made, such as the ability of both 2016 Trump and 2008 Obama to just make vague empty statements that everyone pours their own content into.
"Hope and Change" sounds a lot like "Make America Great Again"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (dpnZC)
++++
*eye roll*
All campaigns have a slogan. Reagan in 84: It's Morning Again in America
Plenty to choose from:
http://tinyurl.com/q4jfvzb (Wikipedia)
I didn't see any that weren't in the same mode, but I didn't look at them all. Perhaps you could illuminate us on what an acceptable campaign slogan would look like?
"Hope and Change" sounds a lot like "Make America Great Again"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (dpnZC)
++++
*eye roll*
All campaigns have a slogan. Reagan in 84: It's Morning Again in America
Plenty to choose from:
http://tinyurl.com/q4jfvzb (Wikipedia)
I didn't see any that weren't in the same mode, but I didn't look at them all. Perhaps you could illuminate us on what an acceptable campaign slogan would look like?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (R+30W)
495
Doesn't mean I have to support Trump though.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (6bMel)
What about November, chique?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (6bMel)
What about November, chique?
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (zuTLp)
496
such as the ability of both 2016 Trump and 2008 Obama to just make vague empty statements that everyone pours their own content into.
"Hope and Change" sounds a lot like "Make America Great Again"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (dpnZC)
I remember the frustration everyone had during the past two elections at how our candidates were so behind on using social media, television, etc. to their benefit. How they didn't understand how to use slogans, etc.
So Trump demonstrates how to do it by getting so much free airtime it's amazing, and people are now complaining how empty those statements/slogans sound.
Trump(and remember, I was a Cruz supporter) has been so far ahead of the curve on getting attention, getting people out to vote, etc. by getting them excited to support him. I don't remember McCain filling arenas. I don't remember Romney hosting strings of standing room only events, even when he was the last candidate standing. Romney's team couldn't figure out how to do proper polling via the internet etc. and Obama's team left him in the dirt.
"Hope and Change" sounds a lot like "Make America Great Again"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:12 PM (dpnZC)
I remember the frustration everyone had during the past two elections at how our candidates were so behind on using social media, television, etc. to their benefit. How they didn't understand how to use slogans, etc.
So Trump demonstrates how to do it by getting so much free airtime it's amazing, and people are now complaining how empty those statements/slogans sound.
Trump(and remember, I was a Cruz supporter) has been so far ahead of the curve on getting attention, getting people out to vote, etc. by getting them excited to support him. I don't remember McCain filling arenas. I don't remember Romney hosting strings of standing room only events, even when he was the last candidate standing. Romney's team couldn't figure out how to do proper polling via the internet etc. and Obama's team left him in the dirt.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (6YRzC)
497
It will be real fun listening to Palin "Palinize" Fiorina.
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (oiNtH)
498
Ben Carson: Take a Walk On the Wild Side
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:19 PM (Nwg0u)
499
It's over, barring some really bizarre happening.
I wanted Jindal, then Walker, and settled for Cruz.
I get Trump. He out politicked Cruz hands down, which sort of surprised me.
I will vote for him cause she- beast, but the Dems have a monster demographic edge.
Maybe America getting their nose rubbed in 4 years of Hillary, after the Imposter may make them go Right. (I know, I know)
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM
........Yea Kind of where I am reluctantly at kicking and screaming, depressed, sad and bummed out.
I wanted Jindal, then Walker, and settled for Cruz.
I get Trump. He out politicked Cruz hands down, which sort of surprised me.
I will vote for him cause she- beast, but the Dems have a monster demographic edge.
Maybe America getting their nose rubbed in 4 years of Hillary, after the Imposter may make them go Right. (I know, I know)
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:11 PM
........Yea Kind of where I am reluctantly at kicking and screaming, depressed, sad and bummed out.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 27, 2016 05:19 PM (m6oW5)
500
Oh and pissed off too, I forgot that.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 27, 2016 05:19 PM (m6oW5)
501
Apple campus death: Employee dead in company conference room in 'isolated incident'
http://tinyurl.com/j929xxm
Posted by: The Computatoinal Hat at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (vBeA5)
Need tinfoil?
http://tinyurl.com/j929xxm
Posted by: The Computatoinal Hat at April 27, 2016 05:05 PM (vBeA5)
Need tinfoil?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:20 PM (uURQL)
502
Ed Anger
Pennsylvania is not in play. The Democrats will cast a billion votes in Philadelphia if that is what it takes.
Pennsylvania is not in play. The Democrats will cast a billion votes in Philadelphia if that is what it takes.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at April 27, 2016 05:20 PM (MpvuV)
503
I don't believe I've ever been insulting to Trump supporters in general in the comments, but I've certainly not held back about Trump.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:20 PM (6bMel)
504
what an acceptable campaign slogan would look like?
>>>>>
chemjeff 2016 : Because Those Goal Posts Can't Move Themselves
>>>>>
chemjeff 2016 : Because Those Goal Posts Can't Move Themselves
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:20 PM (8ZHTC)
505
>>>I would give my left nut for Allen West as Trump's VP pick.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (kfoLf)<<<
Heard him doing an interview not too long ago where he sounded really leery of Trump. Can't remember where that was though... maybe Howie Carr Show? And that's with Howie who has a gold plated, Donald Trump brand set of kneepads.
But I guess this means little in the scheme of things, as evidenced by the "pathological" "child molester-like" Dr. Carson's conversion to Team Donald.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 27, 2016 05:10 PM (kfoLf)<<<
Heard him doing an interview not too long ago where he sounded really leery of Trump. Can't remember where that was though... maybe Howie Carr Show? And that's with Howie who has a gold plated, Donald Trump brand set of kneepads.
But I guess this means little in the scheme of things, as evidenced by the "pathological" "child molester-like" Dr. Carson's conversion to Team Donald.
Posted by: SMOD/Orbital Nukes 2016! -- The only way to be sure at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (H9MG5)
506
66 That gender ambiguous cat looks really high.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (mf5HN)
Don't eat the brown catnip!
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (mf5HN)
Don't eat the brown catnip!
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (KkVB6)
507
@486
Exactly...only homely women deserve respect and decency. Pretty women deserve to be mocked and ridiculed.
If anything, it showed me how far Trump will go for people he cares about, and hey, if he cares about America and will hit back twice as hard....I am all for that.
Exactly...only homely women deserve respect and decency. Pretty women deserve to be mocked and ridiculed.
If anything, it showed me how far Trump will go for people he cares about, and hey, if he cares about America and will hit back twice as hard....I am all for that.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (F5hTl)
508
Bonuses should be given for every U.S. Senator, every Congressman, every Governor, every legislative chamber held, every major city mayor, and on % of people with a GOP county commissioner.
It is done that way to an extent. That's where the Republican "Superdelegates" come from.
It is done that way to an extent. That's where the Republican "Superdelegates" come from.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MAJOR RECTUM at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (qul7b)
510
503
I don't believe I've ever been insulting to Trump supporters in general
in the comments, but I've certainly not held back about Trump.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
Cough
**stares fixedly ahead**
I don't believe I've ever been insulting to Trump supporters in general
in the comments, but I've certainly not held back about Trump.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
Cough
**stares fixedly ahead**
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (LAe3v)
511
"Stop. Grading. On. Style. Points. And let's win this election."
I'm grading Trump on his words and actions over the last four months, which have progressively alienated me. If I cared about style over substance or winning at any cost, I would have voted for that treacherous amnesty butt-boy, Rubio. Last year, I was anti-anti-Trump and would have voted for Trump if he won. Now, I'm about as likely to vote for him as I would have for Jeb Bush or Rubio in November.
I'm grading Trump on his words and actions over the last four months, which have progressively alienated me. If I cared about style over substance or winning at any cost, I would have voted for that treacherous amnesty butt-boy, Rubio. Last year, I was anti-anti-Trump and would have voted for Trump if he won. Now, I'm about as likely to vote for him as I would have for Jeb Bush or Rubio in November.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (KF8B+)
512
*sock off
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (+CKpi)
513
And it bothers no one not one iota that Cruz surrogates started the shiite months earlier with Melania Trump.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 05:16 PM (T78UI)
A week or two earlier, and it was Rubio surrogates, though without Rubio's knowledge.
Trump made the attack on Heidi Cruz himself, and in any case, two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 05:16 PM (T78UI)
A week or two earlier, and it was Rubio surrogates, though without Rubio's knowledge.
Trump made the attack on Heidi Cruz himself, and in any case, two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (ozZau)
514
Isn't conservatism about personal responsibility, kari? Don't blame our parents for our generation being trash. We got here because many baby boomers were red diaper babies, but I don't blame the greatest generation.
If you could divorce parenting from character from outcome, why do we have schools? Why do fathers and mothers matter, and why are fatherless homes a problem?
No, it's linked. Nature AND Nurture.
If you could divorce parenting from character from outcome, why do we have schools? Why do fathers and mothers matter, and why are fatherless homes a problem?
No, it's linked. Nature AND Nurture.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (Nwg0u)
516
chemjeff 2016 : Because Those Goal Posts Can't Move Themselves
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:20 PM (8ZHTC)
Be Humane, You Racists
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:20 PM (8ZHTC)
Be Humane, You Racists
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (uURQL)
517
Pennsylvania is not in play. The Democrats will cast a billion votes in Philadelphia if that is what it takes.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole
Why not just write off all 50 states, after all, Democrats cheat, what the point?
Bush came within about 1 point and in 2010 a Republican Governor won by nearly 10 points and with it a Republican legislature. It also has a Republican Senator.
Posted by: obnoxious ahole
Why not just write off all 50 states, after all, Democrats cheat, what the point?
Bush came within about 1 point and in 2010 a Republican Governor won by nearly 10 points and with it a Republican legislature. It also has a Republican Senator.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (sDOgQ)
518
What about November, chique?
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (zuTLp)
Nope. His NC comments were the last straw for me.
I have profound issues with him, and I think he has been a toxic presence in this race. I believe he is a worse demagogue than even Obama. He's at least as bad. But I won't go into all that now. Maybe later.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 05:18 PM (zuTLp)
Nope. His NC comments were the last straw for me.
I have profound issues with him, and I think he has been a toxic presence in this race. I believe he is a worse demagogue than even Obama. He's at least as bad. But I won't go into all that now. Maybe later.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:24 PM (6bMel)
519
I will now put my dong in your mouth.
And you will like it! Or we have ways of making you like it!
I will now put my dong in your mouth.
And you will like it! Or we have ways of making you like it!
Posted by: Hillary Cliton at April 27, 2016 05:24 PM (qul7b)
520
I don't believe I've ever been insulting to Trump supporters in general
in the comments, but I've certainly not held back about Trump.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
You're one of the least offensive people to post here. That may not be a very high bar but still . . .
in the comments, but I've certainly not held back about Trump.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
You're one of the least offensive people to post here. That may not be a very high bar but still . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 05:25 PM (Nwg0u)
521
Exactly...only homely women deserve respect and decency. Pretty women deserve to be mocked and ridiculed.
..
Oh good grief. I've never said anything bad about wife number three, who seems to be nice woman, and neither has Cruz.
Anyone who can defend what Trump did is deeply in thrall to "Daddy".
..
Oh good grief. I've never said anything bad about wife number three, who seems to be nice woman, and neither has Cruz.
Anyone who can defend what Trump did is deeply in thrall to "Daddy".
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:26 PM (ozZau)
522
"If you could divorce parenting from character from outcome, why do we have schools? Why do fathers and mothers matter, and why are fatherless homes a problem?
No, it's linked. Nature AND Nurture.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (uURQL) "
I know plenty of special snowflakes who had perfectly reasonable parents. It wasn't individual parents that created the 'everybody gets a trophy' world we now live in. No matter who raised you, your politics are still a choice.
No, it's linked. Nature AND Nurture.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (uURQL) "
I know plenty of special snowflakes who had perfectly reasonable parents. It wasn't individual parents that created the 'everybody gets a trophy' world we now live in. No matter who raised you, your politics are still a choice.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at April 27, 2016 05:26 PM (kumBu)
523
511 "Stop. Grading. On. Style. Points. And let's win this election."
I'm grading Trump on his words and actions over the last four months, which have progressively alienated me. If I cared about style over substance or winning at any cost, I would have voted for that treacherous amnesty butt-boy, Rubio. Last year, I was anti-anti-Trump and would have voted for Trump if he won. Now, I'm about as likely to vote for him as I would have for Jeb Bush or Rubio in November.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (KF8B+)
No matter how many times you give substantive criticisms of Trump, it seems some will still insist is all about style.
I'm grading Trump on his words and actions over the last four months, which have progressively alienated me. If I cared about style over substance or winning at any cost, I would have voted for that treacherous amnesty butt-boy, Rubio. Last year, I was anti-anti-Trump and would have voted for Trump if he won. Now, I'm about as likely to vote for him as I would have for Jeb Bush or Rubio in November.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 27, 2016 05:21 PM (KF8B+)
No matter how many times you give substantive criticisms of Trump, it seems some will still insist is all about style.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:26 PM (6bMel)
524
Okay, you made a point. Yes, slogans themselves tend to be empty content.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:26 PM (dpnZC)
525
A week or two earlier, and it was Rubio surrogates, though without Rubio's knowledge.
Trump made the attack on Heidi Cruz himself, and in any case, two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (ozZau)
August 2015
Trump made the attack on Heidi Cruz himself, and in any case, two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (ozZau)
August 2015
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 05:26 PM (T78UI)
526
Be Humane, You Racists
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (uURQL)
If the shoe fits...
Be Humane, You Racists
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (uURQL)
If the shoe fits...
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:27 PM (dpnZC)
527
You know who used to hate Donald Trump?
Smart, savvy, intelligent, incisive beautiful Megyn Kelly.
Or as she is referred to now by the antiTrumpers
" that Fox whore".
Smart, savvy, intelligent, incisive beautiful Megyn Kelly.
Or as she is referred to now by the antiTrumpers
" that Fox whore".
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:28 PM (8ZHTC)
528
Heidi Cruz is definitely not homely. She is definitely attractive.
Unless you think all women are supposed to look like supermodels.
Unless you think all women are supposed to look like supermodels.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 05:28 PM (6bMel)
529
>>You know you #noTrumpers have been so personally viscous that those of us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
The horror. The horror.
Trump supporters, on the other hand have been selfless and, well, I'll just have to say almost saintly.
Seriously, they have been nothing like the man they support who would never toss out random personal insults.
I hope you heal up soon.
The horror. The horror.
Trump supporters, on the other hand have been selfless and, well, I'll just have to say almost saintly.
Seriously, they have been nothing like the man they support who would never toss out random personal insults.
I hope you heal up soon.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 05:28 PM (/tuJf)
530
" that Fox whore".
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:28 PM (8ZHTC)
Who exactly is calling Megyn Kelly "that Fox whore"?
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:28 PM (8ZHTC)
Who exactly is calling Megyn Kelly "that Fox whore"?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:28 PM (dpnZC)
531
"She, however, is attacking not just Hillary, but Trump and it's pretty nasty."
Way back when there were 17 candidates, I couldn't get a true bead on how Carly would do. My personal reaction to her was negative -- she was too shrill -- but I wasn't sure how others would react to a Strong Woman and thought I might somehow be prejudiced.
I knew a bit about her HP back story -- it had a dysfunctional Board and she was brought in to be a change. Then I saw how she acted in debates and it hit me what she did at HP. She went into every Board meeting prepared to answer the questions that would naturally come up with a ready response to attack whoever asked the question.
That's what she did in the debates and it looks like she's doing it again. It's not constructive and it comes off as bitchy.
I say that knowing that Trump could be quite ugly, but it's worked for him but Carly just faded.
Way back when there were 17 candidates, I couldn't get a true bead on how Carly would do. My personal reaction to her was negative -- she was too shrill -- but I wasn't sure how others would react to a Strong Woman and thought I might somehow be prejudiced.
I knew a bit about her HP back story -- it had a dysfunctional Board and she was brought in to be a change. Then I saw how she acted in debates and it hit me what she did at HP. She went into every Board meeting prepared to answer the questions that would naturally come up with a ready response to attack whoever asked the question.
That's what she did in the debates and it looks like she's doing it again. It's not constructive and it comes off as bitchy.
I say that knowing that Trump could be quite ugly, but it's worked for him but Carly just faded.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 05:29 PM (r1fLd)
532
You know you #noTrumpers have been so personally viscous that those of us that were open to Cruz are quickly closing our minds. So FU.
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See the reasons we are against Trump is because of the man himself - not his supporters.
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See the reasons we are against Trump is because of the man himself - not his supporters.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 05:29 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 27, 2016 05:29 PM (8ZHTC)
534
Trump made the attack on Heidi Cruz himself, and in any case, two wrongs don't make a right.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (ozZau)
And Trump said recently that he regretted posting the pic of Heidi Cruz.
Posted by: stace at April 27, 2016 05:22 PM (ozZau)
And Trump said recently that he regretted posting the pic of Heidi Cruz.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 05:31 PM (6YRzC)
535
Be Humane, You Racists
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (uURQL)
If the shoe fits...
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:27 PM (dpnZC)
I'm glad you like the slogan. Now get off your high horse, liar.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:23 PM (uURQL)
If the shoe fits...
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:27 PM (dpnZC)
I'm glad you like the slogan. Now get off your high horse, liar.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:31 PM (uURQL)
536
@521
Well, calling her wife number 3 isn't exactly ideal.
I wasn't referring to you. I was just referring to the outraged and offended twerps.
As far as two wrongs don't make a right, meh. Give me "You hit me, I will hit you back 10 times harder" any day of the week.
Well, calling her wife number 3 isn't exactly ideal.
I wasn't referring to you. I was just referring to the outraged and offended twerps.
As far as two wrongs don't make a right, meh. Give me "You hit me, I will hit you back 10 times harder" any day of the week.
Posted by: TickledPink at April 27, 2016 05:34 PM (F5hTl)
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>>And Trump said recently that he regretted posting the pic of Heidi Cruz.
Why would he ever do it in the first place? He is running to be the President of the United States not who can be the snarkiest tweeter.
He has the impulse control of a 13 year old. Some of us don't think that's a real plus for Commander in Chief and it isn't a style thing.
Why would he ever do it in the first place? He is running to be the President of the United States not who can be the snarkiest tweeter.
He has the impulse control of a 13 year old. Some of us don't think that's a real plus for Commander in Chief and it isn't a style thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 05:35 PM (/tuJf)
538
524 Okay, you made a point. Yes, slogans themselves tend to be empty content.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:26 PM (dpnZC)
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I think the best that can be expected is that they reflect a theme for the campaign. "Hope and Change" fit Obama, because he was promising to change America. "It's Morning Again in America" worked for Reagan's reelction campaign, because he was saying his first term had the country on the right path and that there was more of the same to come. "Make America Great Again" is clearly a response to Obama's destructive effect on the country and is meant to been seen as a promise that Trump will reverse his horrible policies.
I think they are all pretty good as overarching themes of what the candidates want to sell, but that's it. Of course, once you have the theme, you still have to do the nitty gritty work of filling in the specifics.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:26 PM (dpnZC)
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I think the best that can be expected is that they reflect a theme for the campaign. "Hope and Change" fit Obama, because he was promising to change America. "It's Morning Again in America" worked for Reagan's reelction campaign, because he was saying his first term had the country on the right path and that there was more of the same to come. "Make America Great Again" is clearly a response to Obama's destructive effect on the country and is meant to been seen as a promise that Trump will reverse his horrible policies.
I think they are all pretty good as overarching themes of what the candidates want to sell, but that's it. Of course, once you have the theme, you still have to do the nitty gritty work of filling in the specifics.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 05:36 PM (R+30W)
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He has the impulse control of a 13 year old.
Geez, even I know not to jack off in class. Trump is an animal.
Geez, even I know not to jack off in class. Trump is an animal.
Posted by: 13-year old at April 27, 2016 05:36 PM (LAe3v)
540
I don't remember McCain filling arenas. I don't remember Romney hosting strings of standing room only events, even when he was the last candidate standing. Romney's team couldn't.....
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Romney was running against an incumbent President--and even though he lost he still won the white women vote by 56%. Trump isn't going to do that.
Bernie fills stadiums too--hasn't translated to winning.
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Romney was running against an incumbent President--and even though he lost he still won the white women vote by 56%. Trump isn't going to do that.
Bernie fills stadiums too--hasn't translated to winning.
Posted by: Hollywood Swingin' at April 27, 2016 05:38 PM (mcm0N)
541
I listened to the speech on the radio, and while I liked the platitudes (I mean, who doesn't), I didn't exactly get how his complaint that the other nations in NATO need to pay up lines up with the statement that our friends need to know they are our friends, and that we will take care of them. Then he laid into Obama for scrapping missile defense in Poland etc. It just seemed weird to bitch that our friends don't pay the tab (implying that they are mooching layabouts), but then say that they are definitely still our friends and we should take care of them (implying that we should pay their tab). Which is it?
I did like the part about working with Russia to get rid of Islamic fundamentalism. I've been of the opinion for a while that the US, Russia and China all have their own Islamic fundamentalism problem, and we ought to set aside our differences for a minute or two and work together to crush ISIL (like scorched earth, Dresden style) to set an example for any other groups that might get the caliphate idea into their head - so that we can all go back to making money (and unsaid by Trump: screwing each other over behind the scenes, but economically, rather than blood and guts stuff). It might be a fantasy, but I would like to think a pr*ck like Trump could talk a pr*ck Putin (at least Putin, if not China) into it.
One thing I really hate about Trump's rhetorical style is his always / never statements. Too much always / never for my tastes.
I did like the part about working with Russia to get rid of Islamic fundamentalism. I've been of the opinion for a while that the US, Russia and China all have their own Islamic fundamentalism problem, and we ought to set aside our differences for a minute or two and work together to crush ISIL (like scorched earth, Dresden style) to set an example for any other groups that might get the caliphate idea into their head - so that we can all go back to making money (and unsaid by Trump: screwing each other over behind the scenes, but economically, rather than blood and guts stuff). It might be a fantasy, but I would like to think a pr*ck like Trump could talk a pr*ck Putin (at least Putin, if not China) into it.
One thing I really hate about Trump's rhetorical style is his always / never statements. Too much always / never for my tastes.
Posted by: the other coyote at April 27, 2016 05:40 PM (yK44T)
542
I'm glad you like the slogan. Now get off your high horse, liar.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:31 PM (uURQL)
Oh you smarmy little fuck.
Do you listen to talk radio? Fine, maybe you don't. I have no proof either way. What you repeat sounds like just snippets you would get from talk radio. Forgive me for believing your talking points sound like talk radio talking points.
Do you actually engage in some critical thinking? Oh sure, probably a little. But not very much, I'm convinced.
Did you actually call me a traitor? No, you didn't use the word. But that was your clear implication.
Happy now?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:31 PM (uURQL)
Oh you smarmy little fuck.
Do you listen to talk radio? Fine, maybe you don't. I have no proof either way. What you repeat sounds like just snippets you would get from talk radio. Forgive me for believing your talking points sound like talk radio talking points.
Do you actually engage in some critical thinking? Oh sure, probably a little. But not very much, I'm convinced.
Did you actually call me a traitor? No, you didn't use the word. But that was your clear implication.
Happy now?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:40 PM (dpnZC)
543
Of course, once you have the theme, you still have to do the nitty gritty work of filling in the specifics.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 05:36 PM (R+30W)
And Trump really hasn't done this in any believable way, in my view. He makes a statement, issues a policy paper, and then he contradicts himself or walks it back just days or hours later.
At least Obama actually stuck with his terrible ideas that he proposed. Trump isn't even sticking with any ideas that he proposes.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 05:36 PM (R+30W)
And Trump really hasn't done this in any believable way, in my view. He makes a statement, issues a policy paper, and then he contradicts himself or walks it back just days or hours later.
At least Obama actually stuck with his terrible ideas that he proposed. Trump isn't even sticking with any ideas that he proposes.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:41 PM (dpnZC)
544
******Time for some folks to take a break from any
Trump/Cruz thread, perhaps? Take a walk Pet your dog, read something you enjoy.
You could wade through the vitriol here.
Trump/Cruz thread, perhaps? Take a walk Pet your dog, read something you enjoy.
You could wade through the vitriol here.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2016 05:43 PM (w4NZ8)
545
541 I listened to the speech on the radio, and while I liked the platitudes (I mean, who doesn't), I didn't exactly get how his complaint that the other nations in NATO need to pay up lines up with the statement that our friends need to know they are our friends, and that we will take care of them. Then he laid into Obama for scrapping missile defense in Poland etc. It just seemed weird to bitch that our friends don't pay the tab (implying that they are mooching layabouts), but then say that they are definitely still our friends and we should take care of them (implying that we should pay their tab). Which is it?
I did like the part about working with Russia to get rid of Islamic fundamentalism. I've been of the opinion for a while that the US, Russia and China all have their own Islamic fundamentalism problem, and we ought to set aside our differences for a minute or two and work together to crush ISIL (like scorched earth, Dresden style) to set an example for any other groups that might get the caliphate idea into their head - so that we can all go back to making money (and unsaid by Trump: screwing each other over behind the scenes, but economically, rather than blood and guts stuff). It might be a fantasy, but I would like to think a pr*ck like Trump could talk a pr*ck Putin (at least Putin, if not China) into it.
One thing I really hate about Trump's rhetorical style is his always / never statements. Too much always / never for my tastes.
Posted by: the other coyote at April 27, 2016 05:40 PM (yK44T)
++++
Cutting missile defense in Poland wasn't about money, it was about appeasing the Russians. Their position was that it would upset the balance of power if the West could shoot down the missiles that Russia could potentially shoot at Europe or the US. Obama, never one to turn down an opportunity to weaken the West, agreed. The agreement to put the missiles in Poland - made under Bush - was scrapped and Russia was content.
I agree about working with the Russians when it is in our interests and opposition to the jihadists certainly qualifies.
I did like the part about working with Russia to get rid of Islamic fundamentalism. I've been of the opinion for a while that the US, Russia and China all have their own Islamic fundamentalism problem, and we ought to set aside our differences for a minute or two and work together to crush ISIL (like scorched earth, Dresden style) to set an example for any other groups that might get the caliphate idea into their head - so that we can all go back to making money (and unsaid by Trump: screwing each other over behind the scenes, but economically, rather than blood and guts stuff). It might be a fantasy, but I would like to think a pr*ck like Trump could talk a pr*ck Putin (at least Putin, if not China) into it.
One thing I really hate about Trump's rhetorical style is his always / never statements. Too much always / never for my tastes.
Posted by: the other coyote at April 27, 2016 05:40 PM (yK44T)
++++
Cutting missile defense in Poland wasn't about money, it was about appeasing the Russians. Their position was that it would upset the balance of power if the West could shoot down the missiles that Russia could potentially shoot at Europe or the US. Obama, never one to turn down an opportunity to weaken the West, agreed. The agreement to put the missiles in Poland - made under Bush - was scrapped and Russia was content.
I agree about working with the Russians when it is in our interests and opposition to the jihadists certainly qualifies.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 05:46 PM (R+30W)
546
Oh you smarmy little fuck.
Do you listen to talk radio? Fine, maybe you don't. I have no proof either way. What you repeat sounds like just snippets you would get from talk radio. Forgive me for believing your talking points sound like talk radio talking points.
Do you actually engage in some critical thinking? Oh sure, probably a little. But not very much, I'm convinced.
Did you actually call me a traitor? No, you didn't use the word. But that was your clear implication.
Happy now?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:40 PM (dpnZC)
I'll accept those.
You forgot one. You said you respect my conception of what it means to be an American. You do not, as all those lies illustrate.
I'm not asking for you to start respecting it. Just retract the lie.
Do you listen to talk radio? Fine, maybe you don't. I have no proof either way. What you repeat sounds like just snippets you would get from talk radio. Forgive me for believing your talking points sound like talk radio talking points.
Do you actually engage in some critical thinking? Oh sure, probably a little. But not very much, I'm convinced.
Did you actually call me a traitor? No, you didn't use the word. But that was your clear implication.
Happy now?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:40 PM (dpnZC)
I'll accept those.
You forgot one. You said you respect my conception of what it means to be an American. You do not, as all those lies illustrate.
I'm not asking for you to start respecting it. Just retract the lie.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:47 PM (uURQL)
547
Philadelphia absolutely will cast a billion votes to stamp out whatever the rest of the state does.
My father died in October, and I'm pretty sure he voted D for the first time in his life yesterday.
My father died in October, and I'm pretty sure he voted D for the first time in his life yesterday.
Posted by: the other coyote at April 27, 2016 05:53 PM (yK44T)
548
You said you respect my conception of what it means to be an American. You do not, as all those lies illustrate.
Oh no. I respect that, as far as I can tell anyway, your conception of what it means to be an American is unprincipled and tribal in nature. That doesn't mean I endorse it, or find it palatable. But I respect that you have one.
Oh no. I respect that, as far as I can tell anyway, your conception of what it means to be an American is unprincipled and tribal in nature. That doesn't mean I endorse it, or find it palatable. But I respect that you have one.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:54 PM (dpnZC)
549
"Remember, according to Trump's own campaign advisers, this is all an act on the part of Trump."
Not an 'act,' you are twisting words. BTW, tell me, does Cruz talk to his wife at home like he does while campaigning? If not, does that mean his campaign persona is also an 'act'? What politician talks identically up on stage and on camera and in a speech like he does while at home with family and friends????
This criticism is stupid.
Not an 'act,' you are twisting words. BTW, tell me, does Cruz talk to his wife at home like he does while campaigning? If not, does that mean his campaign persona is also an 'act'? What politician talks identically up on stage and on camera and in a speech like he does while at home with family and friends????
This criticism is stupid.
Posted by: K-E at April 27, 2016 05:56 PM (Fa5m9)
550
Oh no. I respect that, as far as I can tell anyway, your conception of what it means to be an American is unprincipled and tribal in nature. That doesn't mean I endorse it, or find it palatable. But I respect that you have one.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:54 PM (dpnZC)
It's a strange form of respect to lie about its positions.
I'd rather you say you hold it in contempt and that's why you don't bother truthfully describing it.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 05:54 PM (dpnZC)
It's a strange form of respect to lie about its positions.
I'd rather you say you hold it in contempt and that's why you don't bother truthfully describing it.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 05:59 PM (uURQL)
551
Fine, RM. Why don't you clearly and in detail describe what being an American means to you, and describe why, under your conception of what it means to be an American, how I am "unAmerican", while truthfully describing MY positions. Go ahead I will wait. I wouldn't want to mischaracterize your positions or anything.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 06:02 PM (dpnZC)
552
Karl Rove pulled out his whiteboard on Fox to show that it ain't over. Allrighty then.
If I'm Trump I'm making a shit list and checking it twice of people to shut out of the Convention and the White House.
Karl is on it. Ted and Carly too.
If I'm Trump I'm making a shit list and checking it twice of people to shut out of the Convention and the White House.
Karl is on it. Ted and Carly too.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 06:06 PM (r1fLd)
553
I am also confused at those who see in Trump's foreign policy speech anything remotely similar to Obama. I know you really want to dislike Trump and want him to be incompetent, but reading the speech and knowing what Obama's been up to the last 8 years, I just do not see the similarity at all. NONE.
Posted by: K-E at April 27, 2016 06:10 PM (Fa5m9)
554
The last two presidents gave similar speeches when candidates (as candidates often do). I doubt at the time they knew much at the time beyond what someone wrote for them.
But you know, Jonah. Let's hold Trump to a different standard.
I'm growing a little tired of the intellectual dishonesty by people who have claimed forever that only comes from the left.
Last week it was Trump should get serious and talk about policy. Then when he does, it's Trump doesn't know what he's talking about.
But you know, Jonah. Let's hold Trump to a different standard.
I'm growing a little tired of the intellectual dishonesty by people who have claimed forever that only comes from the left.
Last week it was Trump should get serious and talk about policy. Then when he does, it's Trump doesn't know what he's talking about.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 27, 2016 06:12 PM (kRkva)
Posted by: g6loq at April 27, 2016 06:20 PM (zj+JZ)
556
Realism bomb I: Trump has won this.
Realism bomb II: Anti-Trump folks are in fantasy land, including people who I respect even though I disagree with them over Trump. Seriously this announcement screams desperation, capped off by having the fantasy VP pick singing songs! I still like Cruz's future, but this is not helping. It says that under pressure he will do stupid self destructive stuff. The opposite is the case for Trump, where it appears in times of leisure he says things that are not well thought out, but when put in a vice he actually can save himself.
Realism bomb II: Anti-Trump folks are in fantasy land, including people who I respect even though I disagree with them over Trump. Seriously this announcement screams desperation, capped off by having the fantasy VP pick singing songs! I still like Cruz's future, but this is not helping. It says that under pressure he will do stupid self destructive stuff. The opposite is the case for Trump, where it appears in times of leisure he says things that are not well thought out, but when put in a vice he actually can save himself.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:21 PM (KhJh8)
557
Last week it was Trump should get serious and talk about policy. Then
when he does, it's Trump doesn't know what he's talking about.
Let's see if Trump goes longer than a week without reversing himself on his big policy speech.
when he does, it's Trump doesn't know what he's talking about.
Let's see if Trump goes longer than a week without reversing himself on his big policy speech.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 06:21 PM (dpnZC)
558
Fine, RM.
I will accept that as a retraction. Good. Thank you.
Why don't you clearly and in detail describe what being an American means to you, and describe why, under your conception of what it means to be an American, how I am "unAmerican", while truthfully describing MY positions. Go ahead I will wait. I wouldn't want to mischaracterize your positions or anything.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 06:02 PM (dpnZC)
My definition - American means having a complete and higher loyalty to America - before all other nationalities on earth.
A simple test of that is that you'd be willing to fight for America in a war against any other country. Including say, Israel.
You have said that you find giving soccer balls and teddy bears to illegals entering the US to be a harmless, humane thing. Do you find this to be a truthful summary of your views?
The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians.
It's illustrated in 30 year olds pretending to be 13 year olds so that our traitorous federal government will let him in.
But even if every 13 year old was actually 13 years old, importing an unlimited number of them destroys America as a culture and a people.
The specific number is just negotiating the price of the whore.
So when you're okay with assisting illegals into the US because they're "kids" - you undermine America's culture and people in favor of some foreign culture and people. It's the logical outcome, even if that's not the result you're aiming for.
That may be very humane, but it's not American.
I will accept that as a retraction. Good. Thank you.
Why don't you clearly and in detail describe what being an American means to you, and describe why, under your conception of what it means to be an American, how I am "unAmerican", while truthfully describing MY positions. Go ahead I will wait. I wouldn't want to mischaracterize your positions or anything.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 06:02 PM (dpnZC)
My definition - American means having a complete and higher loyalty to America - before all other nationalities on earth.
A simple test of that is that you'd be willing to fight for America in a war against any other country. Including say, Israel.
You have said that you find giving soccer balls and teddy bears to illegals entering the US to be a harmless, humane thing. Do you find this to be a truthful summary of your views?
The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians.
It's illustrated in 30 year olds pretending to be 13 year olds so that our traitorous federal government will let him in.
But even if every 13 year old was actually 13 years old, importing an unlimited number of them destroys America as a culture and a people.
The specific number is just negotiating the price of the whore.
So when you're okay with assisting illegals into the US because they're "kids" - you undermine America's culture and people in favor of some foreign culture and people. It's the logical outcome, even if that's not the result you're aiming for.
That may be very humane, but it's not American.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 06:21 PM (uURQL)
559
if we're choosing from doors songs, i would have gone with "this is the end".
Posted by: el polacko at April 27, 2016 06:22 PM (Gy6AC)
560
"The turnout for Trump in northeast PA was pretty surprising. Trump got as many votes as Obama in 2008, while Hillary got less than Mitt in 2012.
PA could actually be in play.
Posted by: Ed Anger
The last poll I saw had Hilary and Trump separated by 2-3 points.
If Hillary loses PA, Trump is President.
I wouldn't write it off.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (sDOgQ)"
I'm highly doubtful Trump could carry PA. It's gone more and more left since George H.W. Bush carried it in 1988. I thought there was a chance in 2008 because of Obama's hostility to guns and coal which are 2 big things in PA (there's a reason Hillary won the state campaigning against him on those issues). In the end it wasn't enough.
The Northeast section of PA is part of the "T" in the state. It's the conservative part of the state with the big lefty concentrations in the Southeast (Philly) and Southwest (Pittsburgh). The problem is the T doesn't have enough population to beat the concentration of voters in the cities.
Watch on election night in November. If the Dem starts the night 200K - 250K votes up on the Republican, it's over in PA. Only if the race is closer than that is there a chance. The cities report sooner. The T votes come in slow and late.
Trump may be able to make it closer assuming that the extra vote he gets from disaffected Dem hunters/coal miners outweighs the moderate Republicans that live in the suburbs. To actually win the state would take a miracle or a political black swan event.
The only reason you see Republican Senators and Governors in PA is the mid-term voter turnout is less Democratic. If Trump is counting on PA, he'll probably lose out.
PA could actually be in play.
Posted by: Ed Anger
The last poll I saw had Hilary and Trump separated by 2-3 points.
If Hillary loses PA, Trump is President.
I wouldn't write it off.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 05:15 PM (sDOgQ)"
I'm highly doubtful Trump could carry PA. It's gone more and more left since George H.W. Bush carried it in 1988. I thought there was a chance in 2008 because of Obama's hostility to guns and coal which are 2 big things in PA (there's a reason Hillary won the state campaigning against him on those issues). In the end it wasn't enough.
The Northeast section of PA is part of the "T" in the state. It's the conservative part of the state with the big lefty concentrations in the Southeast (Philly) and Southwest (Pittsburgh). The problem is the T doesn't have enough population to beat the concentration of voters in the cities.
Watch on election night in November. If the Dem starts the night 200K - 250K votes up on the Republican, it's over in PA. Only if the race is closer than that is there a chance. The cities report sooner. The T votes come in slow and late.
Trump may be able to make it closer assuming that the extra vote he gets from disaffected Dem hunters/coal miners outweighs the moderate Republicans that live in the suburbs. To actually win the state would take a miracle or a political black swan event.
The only reason you see Republican Senators and Governors in PA is the mid-term voter turnout is less Democratic. If Trump is counting on PA, he'll probably lose out.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 06:23 PM (UYQcx)
561
Meanwhile, I'm waiting to see the new tandem of Cruz and Fiorina.
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Running mate powers, Activate!
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Running mate powers, Activate!
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 06:25 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 06:31 PM (r1fLd)
563
"Realism bomb I: Trump has won this.
Realism bomb II: Anti-Trump folks are in fantasy land, including people who I respect even though I disagree with them over Trump. Seriously this announcement screams desperation, capped off by having the fantasy VP pick singing songs! I still like Cruz's future, but this is not helping. It says that under pressure he will do stupid self destructive stuff. The opposite is the case for Trump, where it appears in times of leisure he says things that are not well thought out, but when put in a vice he actually can save himself.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:21 PM (KhJh"
You may be right.
Realism Bomb III: a significant part of the Republican base does not believe that Donald Trump would make a good nominee or a good president. They are concerned based on available data and past performance of poor candidates that while he may be able to win the nomination, he's likely to lose badly and have severe down-ballot effect.
It took 3 elections to climb back from losing the House and Senate to being in the majority again. Look at all the crud Obama pulled in his first 2 years with a veto-proof majority. Imagine what Hillary could do with such a majority now that Obama has led the way in torching the law, historical precedents, and respecting the separate branches of government. Not to mention that this election could flip the Supreme Court for a generation. Those are big stakes.
Consider this: If Cruz gets the nomination but loses the election, his career for higher office is over. If he bowed out now he'd be in a decent position to start his next campaign the day after Election Day (assuming Trump loses). He's pressing on for a reason. Is it just pure ambition? Maybe. Or maybe it's that he sees a disaster befalling the country and is willing to burn a lot of goodwill pressing on in hopes of averting that disaster.
If Trump gets the nomination, I'll vote for him only because I live in a swing state and don't have the luxury of doing a write-in or voting Libertarian to salve my conscience. I will accept absolutely NO blame if Trump gets this nomination and loses a completely winnable election with this much on the line. If such an outcome happens, that disaster will be 100% owned by the voters that chose him as the nominee.
Realism bomb II: Anti-Trump folks are in fantasy land, including people who I respect even though I disagree with them over Trump. Seriously this announcement screams desperation, capped off by having the fantasy VP pick singing songs! I still like Cruz's future, but this is not helping. It says that under pressure he will do stupid self destructive stuff. The opposite is the case for Trump, where it appears in times of leisure he says things that are not well thought out, but when put in a vice he actually can save himself.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:21 PM (KhJh
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You may be right.
Realism Bomb III: a significant part of the Republican base does not believe that Donald Trump would make a good nominee or a good president. They are concerned based on available data and past performance of poor candidates that while he may be able to win the nomination, he's likely to lose badly and have severe down-ballot effect.
It took 3 elections to climb back from losing the House and Senate to being in the majority again. Look at all the crud Obama pulled in his first 2 years with a veto-proof majority. Imagine what Hillary could do with such a majority now that Obama has led the way in torching the law, historical precedents, and respecting the separate branches of government. Not to mention that this election could flip the Supreme Court for a generation. Those are big stakes.
Consider this: If Cruz gets the nomination but loses the election, his career for higher office is over. If he bowed out now he'd be in a decent position to start his next campaign the day after Election Day (assuming Trump loses). He's pressing on for a reason. Is it just pure ambition? Maybe. Or maybe it's that he sees a disaster befalling the country and is willing to burn a lot of goodwill pressing on in hopes of averting that disaster.
If Trump gets the nomination, I'll vote for him only because I live in a swing state and don't have the luxury of doing a write-in or voting Libertarian to salve my conscience. I will accept absolutely NO blame if Trump gets this nomination and loses a completely winnable election with this much on the line. If such an outcome happens, that disaster will be 100% owned by the voters that chose him as the nominee.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 06:36 PM (UYQcx)
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"I'm highly doubtful Trump could carry PA."
You may be right, but Romney only lost by 5%.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 06:31 PM (r1fLd)
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Much as I loathe Trump, if he gets the nomination, then I want him to win because dammit, I want someone other than a Dem hack moving into Scalia's Supreme Court seat. He'd undoubtedly cause a lot of heartburn in other ways as he started moving left to "get stuff done", but the SC nomination would be done early when he might still value keeping Republicans happy.
I've crossed my fingers over PA so many times and been disappointed. The last good news to come out of there was Pat Toomey winning the Senate seat and a Republican taking the seat that Joe Murtha used to have.
5% doesn't sound like much, but it's a lot of voters. PA has a pretty big population. The machine politics in Philly are sickeningly effective.
You may be right, but Romney only lost by 5%.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 06:31 PM (r1fLd)
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Much as I loathe Trump, if he gets the nomination, then I want him to win because dammit, I want someone other than a Dem hack moving into Scalia's Supreme Court seat. He'd undoubtedly cause a lot of heartburn in other ways as he started moving left to "get stuff done", but the SC nomination would be done early when he might still value keeping Republicans happy.
I've crossed my fingers over PA so many times and been disappointed. The last good news to come out of there was Pat Toomey winning the Senate seat and a Republican taking the seat that Joe Murtha used to have.
5% doesn't sound like much, but it's a lot of voters. PA has a pretty big population. The machine politics in Philly are sickeningly effective.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 06:41 PM (UYQcx)
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Drudge headline: "IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL THE SKINNY LADY SINGS"
The headline wrote itself.
Also Complaining about drudge like a bunch of jilted school girls is not going to change how this Cruz move will be viewed. It reaps desperation, the last screech on the retreat.
The headline wrote itself.
Also Complaining about drudge like a bunch of jilted school girls is not going to change how this Cruz move will be viewed. It reaps desperation, the last screech on the retreat.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:41 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:44 PM (KhJh8)
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If I'm Trump I'm making a shit list and checking it twice of people to shut out of the Convention and the White House.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 06:06 PM (r1fLd)
And nobody with a brain gives one solitary fuck, because he'll never have the power to shut people out of either.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 06:06 PM (r1fLd)
And nobody with a brain gives one solitary fuck, because he'll never have the power to shut people out of either.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 27, 2016 06:45 PM (ztrrs)
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Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:21 PM (KhJh"
Realism Bomb III: Trump will get crushed in a 40-state landslide because he's a vile piece of shit and normal people find him disgusting, and his cultists will be humiliated if they have any shame (which they don't).
Realism Bomb III: Trump will get crushed in a 40-state landslide because he's a vile piece of shit and normal people find him disgusting, and his cultists will be humiliated if they have any shame (which they don't).
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 27, 2016 06:52 PM (ztrrs)
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My definition - American means having a complete and higher loyalty to America - before all other nationalities on earth.
That is not how I view it. I view being an American as holding a loyalty to the *principles* upon which America was founded.
So if the government is not living up to the timeless principles upon which America was founded, I would consider it an *American* thing to do to disagree with my government and demand that it change course.
The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians.
I also disagree with using a military metaphor to describe immigration, even illegal immigration.
A military invasion is one in which an organized fighting force, under explicit orders from a foreign government, wishes to take and conquer land held by an enemy, and transfer sovereignty over that land from the conquered nation to the invading nation. Is this what you literally mean when it comes to illegals? If so then I will require some stronger evidence than "some guy flies a Mexican flag over his house" or "some conspiracy loons speak darkly about a Reconquista movement".
But even if every 13 year old was actually 13 years old, importing an
unlimited number of them destroys America as a culture and a people.
For the record, I don't want to import "unlimited" numbers of anyone.
But going back to what I wrote earlier, being American to me means holding to the timeless principles upon which the country was founded. It isn't about the particular cultural makeup, or ethnic makeup, or any other sort of demographic statistic, that happens to exist at this particular instance in time. Someone can be an American but have a very different culture than my typical white middle class suburban/urban culture. I don't think there is any principled reason per se to let everyone in, I don't think there is any principled reason to keep everyone out either. But if we believe that it is beneficial, for some pragmatic reason, to allow legal immigration, as long as those immigrants want to come here and adopt our customs and values, then I'm fine with that. As a conservative I want the process to be slow and cautious, but I am not opposed in principle. That is where I stand.
That is not how I view it. I view being an American as holding a loyalty to the *principles* upon which America was founded.
So if the government is not living up to the timeless principles upon which America was founded, I would consider it an *American* thing to do to disagree with my government and demand that it change course.
The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians.
I also disagree with using a military metaphor to describe immigration, even illegal immigration.
A military invasion is one in which an organized fighting force, under explicit orders from a foreign government, wishes to take and conquer land held by an enemy, and transfer sovereignty over that land from the conquered nation to the invading nation. Is this what you literally mean when it comes to illegals? If so then I will require some stronger evidence than "some guy flies a Mexican flag over his house" or "some conspiracy loons speak darkly about a Reconquista movement".
But even if every 13 year old was actually 13 years old, importing an
unlimited number of them destroys America as a culture and a people.
For the record, I don't want to import "unlimited" numbers of anyone.
But going back to what I wrote earlier, being American to me means holding to the timeless principles upon which the country was founded. It isn't about the particular cultural makeup, or ethnic makeup, or any other sort of demographic statistic, that happens to exist at this particular instance in time. Someone can be an American but have a very different culture than my typical white middle class suburban/urban culture. I don't think there is any principled reason per se to let everyone in, I don't think there is any principled reason to keep everyone out either. But if we believe that it is beneficial, for some pragmatic reason, to allow legal immigration, as long as those immigrants want to come here and adopt our customs and values, then I'm fine with that. As a conservative I want the process to be slow and cautious, but I am not opposed in principle. That is where I stand.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 06:53 PM (dpnZC)
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"@Jill v2
Cruz lost the red south...that is the Republican base.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:44 PM (KhJh"
I think it's more accurate to say that Donald Trump won the states in the red south against a huge field that split the vote up a lot. He benefited tremendously from a field that spanned the spectrum of GOP voters. Remember, he wasn't getting anywhere near 50% until the last couple of weeks aside from about 48% in Massachusetts.
Had the first two states been successful in winnowing the field the way they usually do, Trump would have faced a much harder task consolidating the vote. Most GOP front-runners start winning convincingly much earlier. He failed to build the infrastructure or expand his support in a timely manner.
There's a reason he stopped participating in debates as soon as the field got down to 3 people. He was having trouble filling the talk time with only 4 people and having more time for probing questions on his plans wasn't going to help him.
Bottom line: he lucked out in a lot of ways.
Maybe it will carry him to victory in Cleveland. If so, I'll be grieving that lost Supreme Court seat for a long time....
Cruz lost the red south...that is the Republican base.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 27, 2016 06:44 PM (KhJh
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I think it's more accurate to say that Donald Trump won the states in the red south against a huge field that split the vote up a lot. He benefited tremendously from a field that spanned the spectrum of GOP voters. Remember, he wasn't getting anywhere near 50% until the last couple of weeks aside from about 48% in Massachusetts.
Had the first two states been successful in winnowing the field the way they usually do, Trump would have faced a much harder task consolidating the vote. Most GOP front-runners start winning convincingly much earlier. He failed to build the infrastructure or expand his support in a timely manner.
There's a reason he stopped participating in debates as soon as the field got down to 3 people. He was having trouble filling the talk time with only 4 people and having more time for probing questions on his plans wasn't going to help him.
Bottom line: he lucked out in a lot of ways.
Maybe it will carry him to victory in Cleveland. If so, I'll be grieving that lost Supreme Court seat for a long time....
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 27, 2016 06:54 PM (UYQcx)
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"[Cruz] is pressing on for a reason. Is it just pure ambition? Maybe. Or maybe it's that he sees a disaster befalling the country and is willing to burn a lot of goodwill pressing on in hopes of averting that disaster."
I can't see how Cruz does better than Trump in the general. Name a state that Cruz wins that Romney lost.
So it is vainglorious narcissism.
I can't see how Cruz does better than Trump in the general. Name a state that Cruz wins that Romney lost.
So it is vainglorious narcissism.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 07:05 PM (r1fLd)
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I also disagree with using a military metaphor to describe immigration, even illegal immigration.
It's historical fact that large waves of migration accompany political and cultural upheaval, up to and including genocide.
It is not metaphor. It is description.
For the record, I don't want to import "unlimited" numbers of anyone.
I didn't think so, either. But you recognize there is a breaking point. And the harm is cumulative. It's not that 999,999 "unaccompanied minors" are harmless and the 1 millionth+ minor causes all the damage.
Debating the exact threshold is just Churchill negotiating the price.
It's historical fact that large waves of migration accompany political and cultural upheaval, up to and including genocide.
It is not metaphor. It is description.
For the record, I don't want to import "unlimited" numbers of anyone.
I didn't think so, either. But you recognize there is a breaking point. And the harm is cumulative. It's not that 999,999 "unaccompanied minors" are harmless and the 1 millionth+ minor causes all the damage.
Debating the exact threshold is just Churchill negotiating the price.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 07:06 PM (uURQL)
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"I think it's more accurate to say that Donald Trump won the states in the red south against a huge field that split the vote up a lot."
A key element was that Trump gambled by taking extreme positions that got him all the air time. A normal politician is cautious, because they don't want to blow a career. When they're Presidential candidates they have high-priced consultants who don't want the ride to end early. Trump took the risk that he'd be out of the race early.
A key element was that Trump gambled by taking extreme positions that got him all the air time. A normal politician is cautious, because they don't want to blow a career. When they're Presidential candidates they have high-priced consultants who don't want the ride to end early. Trump took the risk that he'd be out of the race early.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 07:09 PM (r1fLd)
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"If Hillary were a man, she wouldn't get 5 percent."
So spaketh the Donald, throwing down the gauntlet.
So spaketh the Donald, throwing down the gauntlet.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 27, 2016 07:20 PM (r1fLd)
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Did Fiorina actually accept a VP offer from the mathematically defeated candidate?
Isn't that akin to the co pilot in Dr. Strangelove grabbing another seat on Slim Pickens atomic bomb as it plummeted to earth?
Isn't that akin to the co pilot in Dr. Strangelove grabbing another seat on Slim Pickens atomic bomb as it plummeted to earth?
Posted by: Drider at April 27, 2016 07:28 PM (6Xbsz)
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It's historical fact that large waves of migration accompany political and cultural upheaval, up to and including genocide.
It is not metaphor. It is description.
No, it is not. It is a metaphor. A literal military invasion is as I described above. Are you suggesting that illegals are under the direct orders of a hostile government wishing to conquer territory? No? Then it's not a literal military invasion. It is, however, cultural change, that is true. Can cultural change lead to a lot of bad consequences? Yes, it can. That is why I, as a conservative, wish for any immigration to take place slowly, cautiously, and according to the rule of law.
I didn't think so, either. But you recognize there is a breaking
point. And the harm is cumulative. It's not that 999,999
"unaccompanied minors" are harmless and the 1 millionth+ minor causes
all the damage.
So what is your solution? Completely closed society? Don't let anyone in?
It is not metaphor. It is description.
No, it is not. It is a metaphor. A literal military invasion is as I described above. Are you suggesting that illegals are under the direct orders of a hostile government wishing to conquer territory? No? Then it's not a literal military invasion. It is, however, cultural change, that is true. Can cultural change lead to a lot of bad consequences? Yes, it can. That is why I, as a conservative, wish for any immigration to take place slowly, cautiously, and according to the rule of law.
I didn't think so, either. But you recognize there is a breaking
point. And the harm is cumulative. It's not that 999,999
"unaccompanied minors" are harmless and the 1 millionth+ minor causes
all the damage.
So what is your solution? Completely closed society? Don't let anyone in?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 07:32 PM (uAvJJ)
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I'll take Bobby Knight over snarly crony capitalist Carly anyday......Poor girl had no choice LyinTed paid off 500,000.00 of the multimillionaires campaign debt....heavan forbid these crooked liars spend any of their own money......
Posted by: concealedkerry or submitt at April 27, 2016 07:32 PM (kHv/o)
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No, it is not. It is a metaphor. A literal military invasion is as I described above.
I said invasion, not military invasion. The fact you needed to qualify it with "military" shows that you recognize my usage fits.
So what is your solution? Completely closed society? Don't let anyone in?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 07:32 PM (uAvJJ)
Close it for a generation or two, yes. Turn back illegals, don't welcome them in with teddy bears and soccer balls.
America is facing Balkanization. There is serious rot in America culture due to illegals and other immigrants. There are ethnic fault lines all across America, and Latinos have ethnically cleansed blacks from historically black neighborhoods.
I said invasion, not military invasion. The fact you needed to qualify it with "military" shows that you recognize my usage fits.
So what is your solution? Completely closed society? Don't let anyone in?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 07:32 PM (uAvJJ)
Close it for a generation or two, yes. Turn back illegals, don't welcome them in with teddy bears and soccer balls.
America is facing Balkanization. There is serious rot in America culture due to illegals and other immigrants. There are ethnic fault lines all across America, and Latinos have ethnically cleansed blacks from historically black neighborhoods.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 07:49 PM (uURQL)
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We found out Diplo-Donald's foreign policy at the time he did.
He made some good points. However, there are some issues.
First, it's Trump.
Second, he's still doing Bush Lied, People Died. And Blame America First for the Middle East.
Third, he wants a bi-partisan foreign policy. That would mean Half Obama, Half Trump: an O-rump policy.
Fourth, NATO still has the mission of deterring Russia, despite a reset reset button with his flattery bully-buddy. He doesn't get that alliances are good for our purposes, not just give-aways.
Fifth, he's not for closing a single govt. agency despite the bottomless budgetary pit. ed wants to zero out 5.
Sixth, he can't understand or explain Obama's "reckless" foreign policy. I can. And it is not reckless--it is reckoned and purposeful.
Seventh, he doesn't understand that the VA is run for the benefit of its unions, not the vets, just as education is run for unions, not for kids. Neither can be fixed without that knowledge.
All these life-long liberal blinders are why he would get rolled in DC.
As for Carly, she was magnificent. Her exposition of the Constitution was brilliant, especially since young people have been intentionally deprived of their understanding and ownership of it.
And Ted was great, hitting on all of Donald's disqualifications while praising her. Marvelous.
He made some good points. However, there are some issues.
First, it's Trump.
Second, he's still doing Bush Lied, People Died. And Blame America First for the Middle East.
Third, he wants a bi-partisan foreign policy. That would mean Half Obama, Half Trump: an O-rump policy.
Fourth, NATO still has the mission of deterring Russia, despite a reset reset button with his flattery bully-buddy. He doesn't get that alliances are good for our purposes, not just give-aways.
Fifth, he's not for closing a single govt. agency despite the bottomless budgetary pit. ed wants to zero out 5.
Sixth, he can't understand or explain Obama's "reckless" foreign policy. I can. And it is not reckless--it is reckoned and purposeful.
Seventh, he doesn't understand that the VA is run for the benefit of its unions, not the vets, just as education is run for unions, not for kids. Neither can be fixed without that knowledge.
All these life-long liberal blinders are why he would get rolled in DC.
As for Carly, she was magnificent. Her exposition of the Constitution was brilliant, especially since young people have been intentionally deprived of their understanding and ownership of it.
And Ted was great, hitting on all of Donald's disqualifications while praising her. Marvelous.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2016 07:51 PM (Ndje9)
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Well, I think that's it. Trump is going to be the nominee, Hillary will be President.
Trump has finally broken his popularity ceiling. I think at this point a Cruz/Kasich or Cruz/Rubio ticket would have been the only thing capable of stopping him. Fiorina seems like a purely General Election pick. A smart GE pick, but Cruz needed to win the nomination first and I don't see how Fiorina helps.
I hope I'm wrong. Maybe Fiorina will be able to help in Indiana and California more than I think she will. I guess we'll see in a week.
Trump has finally broken his popularity ceiling. I think at this point a Cruz/Kasich or Cruz/Rubio ticket would have been the only thing capable of stopping him. Fiorina seems like a purely General Election pick. A smart GE pick, but Cruz needed to win the nomination first and I don't see how Fiorina helps.
I hope I'm wrong. Maybe Fiorina will be able to help in Indiana and California more than I think she will. I guess we'll see in a week.
Posted by: JT at April 27, 2016 07:54 PM (CZaQB)
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Cruz Sux
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at April 27, 2016 08:26 PM (RvzRN)
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I said invasion, not military invasion. The fact you needed to
qualify it with "military" shows that you recognize my usage fits.
You very clearly implied the usage of a military metaphor, when you wrote:
The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians.
So don't weasel out of what you wrote earlier. You clearly implied the military usage of the term.
And furthermore, military or not, usage of the term "invasion" as opposed to a more benign term, such as just "immigration" is designed - intentionally, I believe - to connote that the immigrants have malevolent intent. And I think the term is used among certain less-than-scrupulous segments of the right in order to whip up LIV Republicans into an outraged frenzy. I don't go in for that sort of scapegoating so I would rather not use the term "invasion".
Close it for a generation or two, yes. Turn back illegals, don't welcome them in with teddy bears and soccer balls.
First, nobody here supports illegal immigration. To be clear, you want to stop legal immigration too "for a generation or two". Yes?
What do you think happens to hermit societies? Do they thrive and prosper, or do they shrivel and weaken over time?
America is facing Balkanization. There is serious rot in America
culture due to illegals and other immigrants. There are ethnic fault
lines all across America, and Latinos have ethnically cleansed blacks
from historically black neighborhoods.
You are painting a static view of American culture. It is changing, not entirely for the better of course, but it will never just stand still and never change. To the degree that there is "rot" in American culture - and yes I believe there is some - I don't think immigrants are really the major problem. It isn't immigrants who are driving the welfare state forward, that's the domestic population. Immigrants aren't the ones in Appalachia living off of fake disability claims as de facto wards of the state, for instance. The mentality of living on the dole without shame or remorse is a problem far beyond immigration itself.
And I find the "ethnic cleansing" claim a bit bizarre. What exactly are you referring to?
qualify it with "military" shows that you recognize my usage fits.
You very clearly implied the usage of a military metaphor, when you wrote:
The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians.
So don't weasel out of what you wrote earlier. You clearly implied the military usage of the term.
And furthermore, military or not, usage of the term "invasion" as opposed to a more benign term, such as just "immigration" is designed - intentionally, I believe - to connote that the immigrants have malevolent intent. And I think the term is used among certain less-than-scrupulous segments of the right in order to whip up LIV Republicans into an outraged frenzy. I don't go in for that sort of scapegoating so I would rather not use the term "invasion".
Close it for a generation or two, yes. Turn back illegals, don't welcome them in with teddy bears and soccer balls.
First, nobody here supports illegal immigration. To be clear, you want to stop legal immigration too "for a generation or two". Yes?
What do you think happens to hermit societies? Do they thrive and prosper, or do they shrivel and weaken over time?
America is facing Balkanization. There is serious rot in America
culture due to illegals and other immigrants. There are ethnic fault
lines all across America, and Latinos have ethnically cleansed blacks
from historically black neighborhoods.
You are painting a static view of American culture. It is changing, not entirely for the better of course, but it will never just stand still and never change. To the degree that there is "rot" in American culture - and yes I believe there is some - I don't think immigrants are really the major problem. It isn't immigrants who are driving the welfare state forward, that's the domestic population. Immigrants aren't the ones in Appalachia living off of fake disability claims as de facto wards of the state, for instance. The mentality of living on the dole without shame or remorse is a problem far beyond immigration itself.
And I find the "ethnic cleansing" claim a bit bizarre. What exactly are you referring to?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 08:45 PM (uAvJJ)
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You very clearly implied the usage of a military metaphor, when you wrote:
"The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians."
So don't weasel out of what you wrote earlier. You clearly implied the military usage of the term.
https://www.traditionalright.com/the-view-from-olympus-invasion-by-immigration/
"invasion by immigration is more dangerous-not less dangerous-than invasion by a foreign army."
You're trying to define invasion as "military invasion", which corresponds to "invasion by foreign army". But there is such a thing as a non-military invasion.
Military historian does not imply what "military" is pre-fixed to all terms. I'm not talking about a military immigration. I said what I meant - several military historians have concluded that "immigration is invasion".
And I find the "ethnic cleansing" claim a bit bizarre. What exactly are you referring to?
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-op-hernandez7jan07-story.html
"THE ACRIMONIOUS relationship between Latinos and African Americans in Los Angeles is growing hard to ignore. Although last weekend's black-versus-Latino race riot at Chino state prison is unfortunately not an aberration, the Dec. 15 murder in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood of Cheryl Green, a 14-year-old African American, allegedly by members of a Latino gang, was shocking.
Yet there was nothing really new about it. Rather, the murder was a manifestation of an increasingly common trend: Latino ethnic cleansing of African Americans from multiracial neighborhoods."
This is the blessing of racial diversity.
"The problem with that is that immigration is invasion. This is a conclusion of military historians."
So don't weasel out of what you wrote earlier. You clearly implied the military usage of the term.
https://www.traditionalright.com/the-view-from-olympus-invasion-by-immigration/
"invasion by immigration is more dangerous-not less dangerous-than invasion by a foreign army."
You're trying to define invasion as "military invasion", which corresponds to "invasion by foreign army". But there is such a thing as a non-military invasion.
Military historian does not imply what "military" is pre-fixed to all terms. I'm not talking about a military immigration. I said what I meant - several military historians have concluded that "immigration is invasion".
And I find the "ethnic cleansing" claim a bit bizarre. What exactly are you referring to?
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-op-hernandez7jan07-story.html
"THE ACRIMONIOUS relationship between Latinos and African Americans in Los Angeles is growing hard to ignore. Although last weekend's black-versus-Latino race riot at Chino state prison is unfortunately not an aberration, the Dec. 15 murder in the Harbor Gateway neighborhood of Cheryl Green, a 14-year-old African American, allegedly by members of a Latino gang, was shocking.
Yet there was nothing really new about it. Rather, the murder was a manifestation of an increasingly common trend: Latino ethnic cleansing of African Americans from multiracial neighborhoods."
This is the blessing of racial diversity.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 09:12 PM (uURQL)
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https://www.traditionalright.com/the-view-from-olympus-invasion-by-immigration/
"invasion by immigration is more dangerous-not less dangerous-than invasion by a foreign army."
I read a few articles on that website. The author seems like a barely concealed white supremacist, going on about how whites are standing up as a racial voting bloc, and that whites need to defend their culture. Are those the types of views that you subscribe to?
And once again, military or not, the term implies malevolent intent on the part of the immigrants. You haven't shown this and it is disingenuous to assume that, IMO.
"invasion by immigration is more dangerous-not less dangerous-than invasion by a foreign army."
I read a few articles on that website. The author seems like a barely concealed white supremacist, going on about how whites are standing up as a racial voting bloc, and that whites need to defend their culture. Are those the types of views that you subscribe to?
And once again, military or not, the term implies malevolent intent on the part of the immigrants. You haven't shown this and it is disingenuous to assume that, IMO.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 09:42 PM (uAvJJ)
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I read a few articles on that website. The author seems like a barely concealed white supremacist, going on about how whites are standing up as a racial voting bloc, and that whites need to defend their culture. Are those the types of views that you subscribe to?
Finding racists everywhere, aren't you?
"White" America is the only America that can preserve the conservative things you claim to want and like.
Black America can't. (See #BLM)
Latino America can't. (See Latin America)
PS: I'm not white. Are you?
And once again, military or not, the term implies malevolent intent on the part of the immigrants. You haven't shown this and it is disingenuous to assume that, IMO.
It's historical fact that the Vikings and the German barbarians and the Muslim Hordes moved into areas and fundamentally transformed the places they moved to.
The military historians didn't say "immigration is invasion when the immigrants have bad intentions".
Intentions don't matter.
Finding racists everywhere, aren't you?
"White" America is the only America that can preserve the conservative things you claim to want and like.
Black America can't. (See #BLM)
Latino America can't. (See Latin America)
PS: I'm not white. Are you?
And once again, military or not, the term implies malevolent intent on the part of the immigrants. You haven't shown this and it is disingenuous to assume that, IMO.
It's historical fact that the Vikings and the German barbarians and the Muslim Hordes moved into areas and fundamentally transformed the places they moved to.
The military historians didn't say "immigration is invasion when the immigrants have bad intentions".
Intentions don't matter.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 10:01 PM (uURQL)
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"White" America is the only America that can preserve the conservative things you claim to want and like.
Black America can't. (See #BLM)
Latino America can't. (See Latin America)
That is a bunch of white supremacist baloney. Conservative ideas are preserved by people who believe in conservative principles, whether they are white, black, brown, blue, green or purple. Do you think BLM represents all black people? Do you think socialist Venezuelan hellholes represent all Latinos? For that matter, do you think the mostly white people of #OccupyWallStreet are the vanguard of that "white America" that you think will preserve conservatism? They're white after all, right?
PS: I'm not white. Are you?
You don't have to be white to be a white supremacist. You just have to identify as white. See: Rachel Dolezal, in reverse.
Intentions don't matter.
It is my firm belief that the people using terms like "invasion" to describe immigration wish to imply malevolent intentions on the part of the "invaders". Because invasions are generally negative events. Yours is a pedantic point I think.
"White" America is the only America that can preserve the conservative things you claim to want and like.
Black America can't. (See #BLM)
Latino America can't. (See Latin America)
That is a bunch of white supremacist baloney. Conservative ideas are preserved by people who believe in conservative principles, whether they are white, black, brown, blue, green or purple. Do you think BLM represents all black people? Do you think socialist Venezuelan hellholes represent all Latinos? For that matter, do you think the mostly white people of #OccupyWallStreet are the vanguard of that "white America" that you think will preserve conservatism? They're white after all, right?
PS: I'm not white. Are you?
You don't have to be white to be a white supremacist. You just have to identify as white. See: Rachel Dolezal, in reverse.
Intentions don't matter.
It is my firm belief that the people using terms like "invasion" to describe immigration wish to imply malevolent intentions on the part of the "invaders". Because invasions are generally negative events. Yours is a pedantic point I think.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 10:12 PM (uAvJJ)
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You don't have to be white to be a white supremacist. You just have to identify as white. See: Rachel Dolezal, in reverse.
What part of "I'm not white" do you not understand? Are you accusing me of talking white? Don't be racist now.
It is my firm belief that the people using terms like "invasion" to describe immigration wish to imply malevolent intentions on the part of the "invaders". Because invasions are generally negative events. Yours is a pedantic point I think.
I don't care about their intentions. Individually, they probably just want a better life for themselves and their family.
Unfortunately, their getting what they want results in large unassimilated ethnic groups, followed by ethnic cleansing of competing ethnic groups (blacks), to be followed by worse things in the future.
Deal with it now, while it can still be done peacefully.
That means Trump, by the way.
What part of "I'm not white" do you not understand? Are you accusing me of talking white? Don't be racist now.
It is my firm belief that the people using terms like "invasion" to describe immigration wish to imply malevolent intentions on the part of the "invaders". Because invasions are generally negative events. Yours is a pedantic point I think.
I don't care about their intentions. Individually, they probably just want a better life for themselves and their family.
Unfortunately, their getting what they want results in large unassimilated ethnic groups, followed by ethnic cleansing of competing ethnic groups (blacks), to be followed by worse things in the future.
Deal with it now, while it can still be done peacefully.
That means Trump, by the way.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 10:37 PM (uURQL)
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Once again: you don't have to be white to be a white supremacist.
I note that you don't even bother to address the fulness of my comment even while I address yours. Do you think BLM represents all black people? Do you think white people like, oh I don't know, Bernie Sanders, Paul Krugman, and Hillary Clinton are going to preserve conservatism?
Do you think blacks and Latinos are incapable of being conservative?
I note that you don't even bother to address the fulness of my comment even while I address yours. Do you think BLM represents all black people? Do you think white people like, oh I don't know, Bernie Sanders, Paul Krugman, and Hillary Clinton are going to preserve conservatism?
Do you think blacks and Latinos are incapable of being conservative?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 10:44 PM (EeCZf)
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Losing is winning in Delusionland!
Posted by: Canadian Whore Banger at April 27, 2016 10:45 PM (vKscd)
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Once again: you don't have to be white to be a white supremacist.
Kind of hard to identify as white when I say "I'm not white".
And it's not so much white supremacist, as recognizing the British/Anglo-Saxon roots of American culture and finding that to be critical.
Rule of Law doesn't exist in other white countries like France or Germany. Even less so in many non-white countries.
I note that you don't even bother to address the fulness of my comment even while I address yours.
You haven't. What about that Latino genocide of black communities?
I skip over most of the "you're racist" nonsense. Don't care.
Kind of hard to identify as white when I say "I'm not white".
And it's not so much white supremacist, as recognizing the British/Anglo-Saxon roots of American culture and finding that to be critical.
Rule of Law doesn't exist in other white countries like France or Germany. Even less so in many non-white countries.
I note that you don't even bother to address the fulness of my comment even while I address yours.
You haven't. What about that Latino genocide of black communities?
I skip over most of the "you're racist" nonsense. Don't care.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 10:50 PM (uURQL)
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Kind of hard to identify as white when I say "I'm not white".
Rachel Dolezal wasn't really black, either.
And it's not so much white supremacist, as recognizing the
British/Anglo-Saxon roots of American culture and finding that to be
critical.
Then why didn't you say that, instead of bringing up the bullshit "white America" crap? British ideas about law and justice aren't tied to any particular race.
And what is this fixation about "white countries" or "non-white countries"? What does the color matter? It isn't about skin color, it's about the ideas.
You haven't. What about that Latino genocide of black communities?
I find your claim to be (a) based in hysteria and (b) poorly-sourced, being based on a single op-ed.
Now, do you think blacks and Latinos are incapable of being conservative?
Who would you rather have as a champion of conservatism, black Thomas Sowell or white Mitch McConnell?
Rachel Dolezal wasn't really black, either.
And it's not so much white supremacist, as recognizing the
British/Anglo-Saxon roots of American culture and finding that to be
critical.
Then why didn't you say that, instead of bringing up the bullshit "white America" crap? British ideas about law and justice aren't tied to any particular race.
And what is this fixation about "white countries" or "non-white countries"? What does the color matter? It isn't about skin color, it's about the ideas.
You haven't. What about that Latino genocide of black communities?
I find your claim to be (a) based in hysteria and (b) poorly-sourced, being based on a single op-ed.
Now, do you think blacks and Latinos are incapable of being conservative?
Who would you rather have as a champion of conservatism, black Thomas Sowell or white Mitch McConnell?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 10:58 PM (EeCZf)
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After reading your article further, it seems as though your article discusses more generally anti-black racism on the part of Latinos, rather than any sort of genocidal intent. That isn't exactly earth-shattering news.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2016 11:01 PM (EeCZf)
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Rachel Dolezal wasn't really black, either.
She claimed to be black but was not black. I am not white and clearly claim to be not white. Obvious parellel, I'm sure.
You're white, aren't you. Don't be racist, chemjeff. Live up to those conservative principles.
She claimed to be black but was not black. I am not white and clearly claim to be not white. Obvious parellel, I'm sure.
You're white, aren't you. Don't be racist, chemjeff. Live up to those conservative principles.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 12:12 AM (1D4Ef)
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Yeah I'm a white guy. I don't see how this is relevant at all, however.
Could you take a moment to answer some of the questions I asked in 591?
Could you take a moment to answer some of the questions I asked in 591?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 12:23 AM (EeCZf)
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Could you take a moment to answer some of the questions I asked in 591?
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 12:23 AM (EeCZf)
I'm not particularly interested in continuing this after you compared me to the racial fraudster Rachel Dolezal.
You aren't acting in good faith, again.
Thanks for the amusement factor of having a white guy treat me as a racial fraud. Entertaining nonsense is better than plain nonsense, I guess.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 12:23 AM (EeCZf)
I'm not particularly interested in continuing this after you compared me to the racial fraudster Rachel Dolezal.
You aren't acting in good faith, again.
Thanks for the amusement factor of having a white guy treat me as a racial fraud. Entertaining nonsense is better than plain nonsense, I guess.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 12:30 AM (1D4Ef)
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Oh I get it. You refuse to answer the uncomfortable questions and so you whine about not being treated fairly, kinda like Trump. I acted exceptionally in good faith, I answered your substantive questions, but you avoided and dodged most of my substantive questions.
Once again: one does not have to have white skin in order to believe in white supremacy. That appears to be what you are. I never said you passed yourself off as a white person, I only pointed out that you seem to identify more with a different race than the one you are, kinda like Dolezal. But whatever, your whines of unfair treatment is just a smokescreen in order to avoid answering my questions.
I had pegged you as an alt-righter for a little while now, good to see that suspicion confirmed.
Once again: one does not have to have white skin in order to believe in white supremacy. That appears to be what you are. I never said you passed yourself off as a white person, I only pointed out that you seem to identify more with a different race than the one you are, kinda like Dolezal. But whatever, your whines of unfair treatment is just a smokescreen in order to avoid answering my questions.
I had pegged you as an alt-righter for a little while now, good to see that suspicion confirmed.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 12:35 AM (EeCZf)
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I only pointed out that you seem to identify more with a different race than the one you are, kinda like Dolezal.
The white guy tells me I'm acting white, instead of like the minority I'm supposed to act like.
Don't be racist, chemjeff.
The white guy tells me I'm acting white, instead of like the minority I'm supposed to act like.
Don't be racist, chemjeff.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 01:19 AM (1D4Ef)
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Oh so you AREN'T actually done with the conversation. You'll come back to land some cheap shots but not to actually answer questions. Typical I suppose.
Are you ever going to tell us whether you would rather have black Thomas Sowell, or white Mitch McConnell, as the champion of conservatism?
And for the record I am not telling you to act according to any racial prescription. I don't believe in that nonsense. You are free to be a white supremacist even if you don't have white skin!
Are you ever going to tell us whether you would rather have black Thomas Sowell, or white Mitch McConnell, as the champion of conservatism?
And for the record I am not telling you to act according to any racial prescription. I don't believe in that nonsense. You are free to be a white supremacist even if you don't have white skin!
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 01:37 AM (EeCZf)
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And by the way, "white supremacism" != "acting white"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 01:39 AM (EeCZf)
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It's rather telling that you seem to believe that "acting white" means "believing in white racial superiority".
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 01:40 AM (EeCZf)
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And by the way, "white supremacism" != "acting white"
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 01:39 AM (EeCZf)
Who said this, chemjeff?
"I only pointed out that you seem to identify more with a different race than the one you are, kinda like Dolezal. "
You need to work on your dishonesty.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 01:39 AM (EeCZf)
Who said this, chemjeff?
"I only pointed out that you seem to identify more with a different race than the one you are, kinda like Dolezal. "
You need to work on your dishonesty.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 02:36 AM (1D4Ef)
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Oh so you AREN'T actually done with the conversation.
This isn't a conversation, you dishonest hack. When you twist my words in bad faith, there is no dialogue.
You want me to answer questions so you have more material to twist. As you've repeatedly demonstrated, you don't any help from me to put words into my mouth.
This isn't a conversation, you dishonest hack. When you twist my words in bad faith, there is no dialogue.
You want me to answer questions so you have more material to twist. As you've repeatedly demonstrated, you don't any help from me to put words into my mouth.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 02:38 AM (1D4Ef)
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Funny how you simply ignore and refuse to entertain the substantive questions, preferring instead to rely on your feigned cries of outrage. No wonder why you like Trump, he does the same thing. When the questions start getting difficult, you'll say "liar liar pants on fire! bad faith! dishonest hack!" and imagine phony insults where none exist so as to distract from the conversation. Those who read this conversation know what is going on. I've outed you as the alt-right white nationalist that you really are.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 28, 2016 08:15 AM (dpnZC)
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Funny how you simply ignore and refuse to entertain the substantive questions, preferring instead to rely on your feigned cries of outrage
"Feigned", eh? So you project that i'm dishonest like you are.
Act in good faith and you can get answers. Act like you are now, and you will be treated with the contempt you've earned.
"Feigned", eh? So you project that i'm dishonest like you are.
Act in good faith and you can get answers. Act like you are now, and you will be treated with the contempt you've earned.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 28, 2016 11:14 AM (1D4Ef)
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