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Former Speaker of the House and Serial Pedophile Child Molester Denny Hastert Sentenced to Fifteen Months in Prison
The problem with his sentence is that he seems to be accused of an action which ought to not be a crime -- hiding one's transactions from the government by making them in increments below the level at which a bank must report them.
Which is insane. It's insane first of all that there's a law that says anyone has to report to the government any size transaction to make. And then it becomes positively Lovecraftian that that isn't enough -- no, now it's a crime to "structure" transactions below that threshold as well. At some point, they'll expand the law to criminalize making transactions just below the phantom threshold to avoid being charged for the that. First, it was illegal to cross the threshold without reporting. Then, it was illegal to flirt with the threshold without reporting. Soon it will be illegal to flirt with the threshold of flirting with the threshold without reporting. As they often say: A government wants nothing more than to criminalize all behaviors. That puts all power of discretion into their hands, and makes the citizens scared and compliant.His crimes against his victims are serious. But the "crime" he's being sentenced for today is no crime at all -- except on the government's part. The statute of limitations ran out on his real crimes. The AP article is about his actual crimes, and barely mentions the non-crime he's actually going to jail for.
This article provides more grim details about Individual A and other victims.
Dennis Hastert, the Republican who for eight years presided over the House and was second in the line of succession to the presidency, was sentenced Wednesday to more than a year in prison in the hush-money case that included accusations he sexually abused teenagers while coaching high school wrestling. ... In explaining his punishment, the judge called Hastert a "serial child molester" and described as "unconscionable" his attempt to accuse one of the victims of extortion. ... Earlier in the hearing, a former athlete who said he was molested by Hastert decades ago told the courtroom that he was "devastated" by the abuse. The man, now in his 50s, said Hastert abused him while they were alone in a locker room. He struggled to hold back tears as he described the incident in detail. In the years since, he said, he sought professional help and had trouble sleeping. He said the memory still causes him pain. He said he trusted and looked up to Hastert. In his own statement, Hastert admitted that he "mistreated" some of his athletes and said he was "deeply ashamed." "I am sorry to those I hurt and misled," he said. "What I did was wrong and I regret it."
You get the pattern. The guy Republicans called "Coach" for years. "Coach." The Flair Principle of Law: If the government will throw people in jail for not wearing 37 pieces of flair, they should at least make 37 the official legal requirement -- not tell them 15 is the minimum, but they'll encourage them (through prison sentences) to do more than the minimum.
Individual A was 14 when Hastert abused him, according to court documents filed by the government earlier this month. Hastert would have been in his 20s or 30s. The teenager was one of around a dozen boys returning to Yorkville from a wrestling camp. Stopping at a motel, Hastert, the only adult on the trip, told Individual A to stay with him in one room. The other boys stayed in another room. Hastert said he wanted to check a groin pull the boy suffered, ordering him onto a bed and telling him to take off his underwear. When the teen realized Hastert "was touching him in an inappropriate sexual way," he jumped up, ran across the room and sat in a chair, the court papers said. Later, he walked back and apologized to Hastert, who then told the boy to give him a back message. Confused and embarrassed, the boy complied. Hastert's attorneys questioned whether Hastert's actions legally constituted sexual abuse. Prosecutors hit back in their filing: "There is no ambiguity; defendant sexually abused Individual A." Individual A confronted Hastert in 2010. At a prearranged meeting, he asked why Hastert had abused him. Hastert, the filing said, responded that it had been "a confusing and difficult time in his life." ... INDIVIDUAL B Individual B was also 14 when he says Hastert abused him. It happened when he was alone in the locker room with Hastert after a workout. He told prosecutors Hastert offered him a massage, telling him it would help "loosen him up." Hastert then "performed a sexual act" on him, the court documents said. --- INDIVIDUAL C Individual C had just stepped out of a locker room shower when Hastert offered him a massage. He didn't think it strange at first. But when his towel came off, Hastert brushed his hand against the boy's genitals. "Individual C recalls that it was 'very weird' and made him uncomfortable," according to the court papers. But Individual C wasn't sure the touching was intentional.
Comments
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Not Skip.
Posted by: johnd01 at April 27, 2016 03:10 PM (ukNFU)
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Perv
Posted by: NCKate at April 27, 2016 03:10 PM (O46jc)
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Should have gone to the Target ladies room.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:11 PM (k4M/B)
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Another reason why people hate and distrust politicians. Actually, about the millionth reason. There have to be decent people out there.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 27, 2016 03:11 PM (FQKBL)
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Why didn't they just sentence Hastert to a North Carolina ladies room?
Posted by: wooga at April 27, 2016 03:12 PM (g4eNE)
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He betrayed the kids entrusted to him. I hope he makes lots of unwanted friends in the federal joint.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 03:12 PM (iLoHX)
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Sounds like he was auditioning for a spot at Penn State.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 03:12 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 03:12 PM (evdj2)
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Call him Roach.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (k4M/B)
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and whats with all these politicians having strange kinks?
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)
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Did Hastert and Reid get along? Just wonderin'.
Posted by: johnd01 at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (ukNFU)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (g8Hfr)
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If it's my money and I put it in there, I expect to be able to take it out of there any time I want and twice on Sundays. Except my bank's closed on Sundays. Tuesday, then.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (dFi94)
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Yeah the IRS and FBI got a lot of laws passed just to make their jobs easier, not because of any sense of justice or need. They got congress to go along to make it easier to do what they are paid to do with the force of US federal law.
Lie to a cop? Cop sneers at you because he's heard it all. Like to fed? Fed runs whining to the DA and gets you jailed.
Pull your money out of the bank in small increments instead of all at once? Jail time.
Destroy what the feds want as evidence to help build their case? Jail time.
Lie to a cop? Cop sneers at you because he's heard it all. Like to fed? Fed runs whining to the DA and gets you jailed.
Pull your money out of the bank in small increments instead of all at once? Jail time.
Destroy what the feds want as evidence to help build their case? Jail time.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (39g3+)
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And he's the guy who replaced Newt Gingrich when Gingrich became too "polarizing" or something, right?
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (7Kbxu)
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Amateur
Posted by: Hairy Reid at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (3Rr8K)
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Still Free as a shitbird....
Posted by: Hillary! at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (uUhhd)
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10 and whats with all these politicians having strange kinks?
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)
Politics is where people too disturbed to function in the real world go to nest.
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)
Politics is where people too disturbed to function in the real world go to nest.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (iLoHX)
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Hmm, I can see John Kasich doing this...I mean, the homo buggering of boys.
But, isn't this behavior desirous in the gay community? I mean, young boys, in wrestling togs...
Hmm, I can see John Kasich doing this...I mean, the homo buggering of boys.
But, isn't this behavior desirous in the gay community? I mean, young boys, in wrestling togs...
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz The Main Dude My Man Esq at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (JwV75)
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Do we think this is nailing a Repub's balls to the floor, or a bad legal argument to make sure a bad person that otherwise has got away does in fact go to jail?
I feel like it's mostly the latter, but if he'd been a Dem, might have been able to weasel out of it after his party circled the wagons for him.
I feel like it's mostly the latter, but if he'd been a Dem, might have been able to weasel out of it after his party circled the wagons for him.
Posted by: shillelagh at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (L3vVL)
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Someone needs to take this "incremental payment/withdrawel" crime all the way to the Supreme Court. It is blatantly unconstitutional.
But it is hard to defend Hastert here. He is being convicted of the wrong crime.
But it is hard to defend Hastert here. He is being convicted of the wrong crime.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (vvmPQ)
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7 Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 03:12 PM (PFy0L)
Quite...
If only he'd been smart enough to be a democrat...the House would have given him a standing ovation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
Quite...
If only he'd been smart enough to be a democrat...the House would have given him a standing ovation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds
Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2016 03:15 PM (g8Hfr)
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Of course if he were a Democrat he would have walked free.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 03:15 PM (vvmPQ)
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Well, I hope they have suitable bathrooms at the prison.
Posted by: Aviator at April 27, 2016 03:15 PM (c7vUv)
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Danggit, ace, as we've whined many times, you oughta have that MUMR-zapper thinggy tweaked so that the "translated" comments remain (as well as the modified nics).
They are consistently hilarious. And regulars will get to know the drill on them quickly. Be kinda cool to have that poor disturbed soul out there unwittingly contributing good yukks to the HQ.
They are consistently hilarious. And regulars will get to know the drill on them quickly. Be kinda cool to have that poor disturbed soul out there unwittingly contributing good yukks to the HQ.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2016 03:15 PM (QDnY+)
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Too bad Hastert won't be around in fifteen years when progressives will be all about tolerance for pedophilia and special child-adult restrooms.
Posted by: TB at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (UXEYz)
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Harry Reid structures his hush money out of several different accounts from several different banks.
Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (UzPAd)
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Why didn't they just sentence Hastert to a North Carolina ladies room?
Posted by: wooga
Because he was after boys?
Posted by: wooga
Because he was after boys?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (Jcvz2)
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>>>But it is hard to defend Hastert here. He is being convicted of the wrong crime.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (vvmPQ)<<<
**shrugs**
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 03:14 PM (vvmPQ)<<<
**shrugs**
Posted by: zombie Al Capone at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (H9MG5)
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The AP article is about his actual crimes, and barely mentions the non-crime he's actually going to jail for.
Is that always wrong? Not a rhetorical question, I'm open to persuasion.
O.J. Simpson is rotting in jail for killing two people but he's convicted of trying to shake down a memorabilia dealer.
Is that always wrong? Not a rhetorical question, I'm open to persuasion.
O.J. Simpson is rotting in jail for killing two people but he's convicted of trying to shake down a memorabilia dealer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (1xUj/)
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"The statute of limitations ran out on his real crimes."
Not once he's jailed - he will serve his real sentence with every orifice.
Not once he's jailed - he will serve his real sentence with every orifice.
Posted by: batterup at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (hes+/)
Posted by: Harry Reid at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (c7vUv)
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Someone needs to take this "incremental payment/withdrawel" crime all the way to the Supreme Court. It is blatantly unconstitutional.
It's worse than that asset forfeiture crap.
Someone needs to take this "incremental payment/withdrawel" crime all the way to the Supreme Court. It is blatantly unconstitutional.
It's worse than that asset forfeiture crap.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:17 PM (k4M/B)
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Granted, I never had the inclination for that type of stuff, but really, I never had the time ....
Lead boring life.
Lead boring life.
Posted by: g6loq at April 27, 2016 03:17 PM (zj+JZ)
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I don't understand people who have skeletons in their closets actively seeking the limelight knowing shit could hit the fan at any moment. Are they delusional or suffering from some other mental illness? Boggles.
Posted by: NCKate at April 27, 2016 03:17 PM (O46jc)
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Quite...
If only he'd been smart enough to be a democrat...the House would have given him a standing ovation.
If he'd have been a democrat, he wouldn't be going to jail.
If only he'd been smart enough to be a democrat...the House would have given him a standing ovation.
If he'd have been a democrat, he wouldn't be going to jail.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 03:17 PM (Jcvz2)
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And just when the opportunity to diddle young females in their locker rooms has opened up.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:17 PM (/CXhS)
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The clearest case of extreme facts making bad law.
No one, but no one wants to go to bat for a child molester.
So the Gubmint sets a precedent that you can be convicted of perfectly legal activity, if you were thinking of not breaking an actual law.
Wouldn't it be great if there were some kind of charitable legal foundation that went around defending even the most unpopular if civil liberties were being infringed?
No one, but no one wants to go to bat for a child molester.
So the Gubmint sets a precedent that you can be convicted of perfectly legal activity, if you were thinking of not breaking an actual law.
Wouldn't it be great if there were some kind of charitable legal foundation that went around defending even the most unpopular if civil liberties were being infringed?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (3Rr8K)
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OT: Sucks being on a work computer where you can't disable javascript so the freaking hamsters don't hang your machine. I mean, what am I supposed to do, work all day?
Posted by: t-bird at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (F1ndw)
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30 The AP article is about his actual crimes, and barely mentions the non-crime he's actually going to jail for.
Is that always wrong? Not a rhetorical question, I'm open to persuasion.
O.J. Simpson is rotting in jail for killing two people but he's convicted of trying to shake down a memorabilia dealer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (1xUj/)
Exactly. I'm at peace with that.
Is that always wrong? Not a rhetorical question, I'm open to persuasion.
O.J. Simpson is rotting in jail for killing two people but he's convicted of trying to shake down a memorabilia dealer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:16 PM (1xUj/)
Exactly. I'm at peace with that.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (iLoHX)
Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (g8Hfr)
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They made up something to get the guy they couldn't otherwise get. Like cops knocking out a taillight on the suspected drug dealer's car and then pulling him over for the broken taillight and then conducting a search of the car.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Pox Vobiscum - Get Your Literate Latinate Curses from the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (hLRSq)
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>>If he'd have been a democrat, he wouldn't be going to jail.
Hell no. He'd get a couple of extra pages assigned to him.
Hell no. He'd get a couple of extra pages assigned to him.
Posted by: Harry Reid at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (c7vUv)
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Just wonder if these stories were known when he was Speaker, and if it was ever used as leverage to make legislation go the way certain vested interests wanted it to go.
Posted by: V the K at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (O7MnT)
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I'm not trying to protect Hassert in the least but it seems that in this day and age with him and Cosby that the statute of limitations has fallen by the wayside.
Why is that?
Why is that?
Posted by: Drider at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (bdzyz)
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After a long investigation that came to nothing, an overreaching prosecutor came up with a plan.
I believe this whole thing was ginned up because they had no evidence (or it was beyond the statute of limitations)to charge him with a crime so some bright spark decided they could manipulate the so called Patriot Act to get him for something.
And now that they've made this practice respectable, more over reaching prosecutors will use this as either a club or the final go to plan z.
We're no longer a country of laws.
I believe this whole thing was ginned up because they had no evidence (or it was beyond the statute of limitations)to charge him with a crime so some bright spark decided they could manipulate the so called Patriot Act to get him for something.
And now that they've made this practice respectable, more over reaching prosecutors will use this as either a club or the final go to plan z.
We're no longer a country of laws.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (Xo1Rt)
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"Too bad Hastert won't be around in fifteen years when progressives will
be all about tolerance for pedophilia and special child-adult restrooms."
========
Well, it's completely unthinkable today, so I'm sure it's coming, and probably so quickly its arrival will be shocking.
be all about tolerance for pedophilia and special child-adult restrooms."
========
Well, it's completely unthinkable today, so I'm sure it's coming, and probably so quickly its arrival will be shocking.
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2016 03:19 PM (7Kbxu)
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Plus Hastert's victim / extortioner is suing him because his extortion payments were interrupted by the feds and the victim / extortioner didn't get all of his extortion money.
Who are the good guys again?
Who are the good guys again?
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 03:19 PM (R+30W)
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"As they often say: A government wants nothing more than to criminalize all behaviors. That puts all power of discretion into their hands, and makes the citizens scared and compliant."
this can not be pointed out enough...
this can not be pointed out enough...
Posted by: Shoey at April 27, 2016 03:20 PM (vA94g)
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A conviction? I'm surprised they didn't give him a marriage license.
Posted by: CrustyB at April 27, 2016 03:21 PM (GvSpB)
51
I went into a local Chase branch so I could break a 20 for fives. Had to put my atm card into the reader first.
sooner or later the government, if run for some more years by progs, will give everyone who can't afford it a cheap smart phone and force all transactions to be done through an account over the internet. And they'll tell you they're doing you a favor. Orwell on his best day would have had a hard time imagining what many of us expect in the not too distant future.
sooner or later the government, if run for some more years by progs, will give everyone who can't afford it a cheap smart phone and force all transactions to be done through an account over the internet. And they'll tell you they're doing you a favor. Orwell on his best day would have had a hard time imagining what many of us expect in the not too distant future.
Posted by: Satan of Blutwurst Vt at April 27, 2016 03:21 PM (qSIlh)
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I'm very uncomfortable with the "Al Capone" strategy of lawfare where we nail someone on something trivial because we can't convict them on the "real" crime.
It's a slippery slope and the actual crime Hastert was convicted on is a joke of a law.
It's a slippery slope and the actual crime Hastert was convicted on is a joke of a law.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:21 PM (sDOgQ)
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The guy Republicans called "Coach" for years.
"Coach."
Well, he certainly f**ked conservatives in the a$$...
"Coach."
Well, he certainly f**ked conservatives in the a$$...
Posted by: The Whistle Blows... at April 27, 2016 03:21 PM (vBeA5)
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I was wondering for what he was being sentenced.
Yeah, I'm going to be awful and heave my principles overboard for a second and say fuck it at least he's getting locked up for something.
*fishes principles out*
At some point, they'll expand the law to criminalize making transactions just below the phantom threshold to avoid being charged for the that.
First, it was illegal to cross the threshold without reporting.
Then, it was illegal to flirt with the threshold without reporting.
Soon it will be illegal to flirt with the threshold of flirting with the threshold without reporting.
It's my impression that's what's going on now. I can't remember where it was but some restaurant (I think) got busted for "structuring" and the owner said no we send people to the bank with cash under $10k because that's the limit of our insurance and too bad so sad.
It's as bad as civil asset forfeiture, civil nuisance abatement and Operation Choke Point stuff.
It's not a crime to attempt to avoid committing a crime.
Sigh. I need more caffeine. I can't even ragetwitch right now.
Yeah, I'm going to be awful and heave my principles overboard for a second and say fuck it at least he's getting locked up for something.
*fishes principles out*
At some point, they'll expand the law to criminalize making transactions just below the phantom threshold to avoid being charged for the that.
First, it was illegal to cross the threshold without reporting.
Then, it was illegal to flirt with the threshold without reporting.
Soon it will be illegal to flirt with the threshold of flirting with the threshold without reporting.
It's my impression that's what's going on now. I can't remember where it was but some restaurant (I think) got busted for "structuring" and the owner said no we send people to the bank with cash under $10k because that's the limit of our insurance and too bad so sad.
It's as bad as civil asset forfeiture, civil nuisance abatement and Operation Choke Point stuff.
It's not a crime to attempt to avoid committing a crime.
Sigh. I need more caffeine. I can't even ragetwitch right now.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (mf5HN)
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Well, it's completely unthinkable today, so I'm sure it's coming, and probably so quickly its arrival will be shocking.
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2016 03:19 PM (7Kbxu)
It's definitely coming.
http://tinyurl.com/p2c2yu9
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations
Well, it's completely unthinkable today, so I'm sure it's coming, and probably so quickly its arrival will be shocking.
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2016 03:19 PM (7Kbxu)
It's definitely coming.
http://tinyurl.com/p2c2yu9
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (/CXhS)
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My opponent is a gynoist.
Posted by: Bernie! at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (ml1PM)
57
A Republican?
I'm cool with it.
I'm cool with it.
Posted by: ACLU at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (3Rr8K)
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Just another closeted Republican that opposed gay marriage for years busted for slapping his wanger in dudes faces.
Posted by: TX at April 27, 2016 03:23 PM (ZXipY)
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Yeah the IRS can't have people depositing too much cash. Or trying to deposit too much cash. Report everything.
Posted by: brak at April 27, 2016 03:23 PM (MJuTN)
60
As with most of the priest molestations, the victims here are mostly post-pubescent young males that a male homosexual is attracted to. This isn't pedophilia. This is homosexuality. The young men are of "jail bait" age, just as in other statutory rape cases involving young women. But for the fact that he is a homo, Hastert would be going on the plane with Jeffrey Epstein to his island. Not to worry -- he'll be getting plenty of butt sex where he's going.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:23 PM (5f5bM)
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I echo the belief that this is where prosecutorial discretion can actually be a decent thing.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 27, 2016 03:23 PM (PFy0L)
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Lawsuit claims Hastert owes accuser $1.8M in hush money
A man who alleges he was sexually abused by former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert and later promised $3.5 million to stay quiet filed a breach-of-contract lawsuit Monday, saying he's owed more than half the money Hastert promised.
The man, identified in court documents as Individual A, filed the lawsuit in Yorkville, the northern Illinois city where Hastert was a high school teacher and wrestling coach when, prosecutors believe, he molested at least four boys decades ago.
http://tinyurl.com/hq8h8gy
A man who alleges he was sexually abused by former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert and later promised $3.5 million to stay quiet filed a breach-of-contract lawsuit Monday, saying he's owed more than half the money Hastert promised.
The man, identified in court documents as Individual A, filed the lawsuit in Yorkville, the northern Illinois city where Hastert was a high school teacher and wrestling coach when, prosecutors believe, he molested at least four boys decades ago.
http://tinyurl.com/hq8h8gy
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 03:24 PM (R+30W)
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Did Denny mentor Paul Ryan?
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 03:24 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette ATL v BAY at April 27, 2016 03:24 PM (qCMvj)
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Gerry Studds wasn't allowed to check out books from the House library.
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 03:24 PM (evdj2)
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Sigh. I need more caffeine. I can't even ragetwitch right now.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (mf5HN)
***
I'll make the run. you stay right where you are, angel.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (mf5HN)
***
I'll make the run. you stay right where you are, angel.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 27, 2016 03:25 PM (lutOX)
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54 It's not a crime to attempt to avoid committing a crime.
Attempted Avoidery...
Has a nice ring to it.
Attempted Avoidery...
Has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: Social Justice Department at April 27, 2016 03:25 PM (uUhhd)
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ONE TIME AT ELECTROSHOCK CAMP A COUNSELOR STRUCTURED MY BUNK SO THAT HIS YOO-HOO COULD GO IN MY BOO-BOO.
ONE TIME AT ELECTROSHOCK CAMP A COUNSELOR STRUCTURED MY BUNK SO THAT HIS YOO-HOO COULD GO IN MY BOO-BOO.
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MALE RAPIST at April 27, 2016 03:25 PM (qul7b)
69
Disgusting!
>>Well, it's completely unthinkable today, so I'm sure it's coming, and probably so quickly its arrival will be shocking.
Not at all unthinkable. Hollywood has been inserting teen/adult relationships in movies and tv shows for a while. Heck, Eve Enseler's original version of "Vagina Monologues" included a relationship between an 11 girl and a woman (she's since upped the child's age). Salon is posting stories written by pedophiles who want to acceptance and credit for not acting on their urges.
>>Well, it's completely unthinkable today, so I'm sure it's coming, and probably so quickly its arrival will be shocking.
Not at all unthinkable. Hollywood has been inserting teen/adult relationships in movies and tv shows for a while. Heck, Eve Enseler's original version of "Vagina Monologues" included a relationship between an 11 girl and a woman (she's since upped the child's age). Salon is posting stories written by pedophiles who want to acceptance and credit for not acting on their urges.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 03:25 PM (NOIQH)
70
>>In his own statement, Hastert admitted that he "mistreated" some of his athletes and said he was "deeply ashamed."
"I am sorry to those I hurt and misled," he said. "What I did was wrong and I regret it."
I see there are new entries in the thesaurus for molest: mistreat and mislead.
But yeah, the so-called crime he was charged with is absolute crap.
"I am sorry to those I hurt and misled," he said. "What I did was wrong and I regret it."
I see there are new entries in the thesaurus for molest: mistreat and mislead.
But yeah, the so-called crime he was charged with is absolute crap.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:25 PM (6bMel)
71
I don't recall Hastert being a Conservative. I remember him as an Illinois Republican.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (zuTLp)
72
Is that always wrong? Not a rhetorical question, I'm open to persuasion.
O.J. Simpson is rotting in jail for killing two people but he's convicted of trying to shake down a memorabilia dealer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I think it is because basically anybody can be convicted on something trivial. We no longer are a nation of laws, all that matters is who has the right "juice" with the people in power. And we know what happens when Progressives get in power.
Look at Timothy Geitner. What he actually did was FAR worse than not reporting how much cash he took out of his bank account.
But what OJ is in prison for was not a technicality, it was basically armed robbery. Anybody would be going to prison for that.
O.J. Simpson is rotting in jail for killing two people but he's convicted of trying to shake down a memorabilia dealer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I think it is because basically anybody can be convicted on something trivial. We no longer are a nation of laws, all that matters is who has the right "juice" with the people in power. And we know what happens when Progressives get in power.
Look at Timothy Geitner. What he actually did was FAR worse than not reporting how much cash he took out of his bank account.
But what OJ is in prison for was not a technicality, it was basically armed robbery. Anybody would be going to prison for that.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (sDOgQ)
73
Well, it's completely unthinkable today, so I'm sure it's coming, and probably so quickly its arrival will be shocking.
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2016 03:19 PM (7Kbxu)
It's definitely coming.
http://tinyurl.com/p2c2yu9
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (/CXhS)
I think polygamy is next, probably in the form of a Muslim US citizen man who wants his multiple marriages to US citizen women made overseas to be recognized, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts will oblige. But doing away with, or lowering, the age of consent is probably also not far off.
Posted by: Kensington at April 27, 2016 03:19 PM (7Kbxu)
It's definitely coming.
http://tinyurl.com/p2c2yu9
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (/CXhS)
I think polygamy is next, probably in the form of a Muslim US citizen man who wants his multiple marriages to US citizen women made overseas to be recognized, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts will oblige. But doing away with, or lowering, the age of consent is probably also not far off.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (5f5bM)
74
Ugh, another Rethuglican pedophile. First they cut school funding, then they rape our children, then they won't let 40 year old men follow little girls into women's restrooms. It makes me soooo mad!
Posted by: Sam from Providence, Unemployable Special Snowflake at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (Jh20h)
75
by the way, may I mention that during to fight to stop the so-called "Equal Rights Amendment" in the mid 1970s, some people wondered if passing such an amendment wouldn't lead to unisex bathrooms.
Oh how ridiculous, they replied.
Oh how ridiculous, they replied.
Posted by: Satan of Blutwurst Vt at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (qSIlh)
76
Story a year or two back of a Mom and Pop grocer in a sketchy part of town who made cash deposits in the bank of amounts just under $10,000. As anybody who runs a business knows, standard business insurance will cover a cash loss due to theft up to $10,000. The goverment confiscated their entire account and after years of fighting offered to settle for something like 20 cents on the dollar. There was never any indication the couple were involved in anything illegal, the goverment just did it because they could.
These laws and civil forfeiture laws are not to protect against crime, they are to provide goverment with a monolopy on it.
These laws and civil forfeiture laws are not to protect against crime, they are to provide goverment with a monolopy on it.
Posted by: mov at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (kUmUV)
77
I can't understand why the government is going into this much detail about why Hastert committed the structuring - it's just not relevant or material to the question of whether or not he passed cash in such a manner as to evade the $10,000.00 reporting limit.
That is to say, I can't imagine why - other than to call this Republican and all the others who were around when he was speaker closeted serial predatory fags.
This being the Obama-headed Federal government in Illinois, I can also imagine how this is some sort of political payback.
One of the reasons that the Statute of Limitations on crimes exists is that as a matter of public policy we want bad actors to reform their behavior and go on to live law-abiding lives with the knowledge that past bad acts won't destroy them later. On the facts as we know them (perhaps there are more, but now unknown), it seems that Hastert actually did reform but is being destroyed due to those old crimes anyway.
That is to say, I can't imagine why - other than to call this Republican and all the others who were around when he was speaker closeted serial predatory fags.
This being the Obama-headed Federal government in Illinois, I can also imagine how this is some sort of political payback.
One of the reasons that the Statute of Limitations on crimes exists is that as a matter of public policy we want bad actors to reform their behavior and go on to live law-abiding lives with the knowledge that past bad acts won't destroy them later. On the facts as we know them (perhaps there are more, but now unknown), it seems that Hastert actually did reform but is being destroyed due to those old crimes anyway.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (RfZaB)
78
There was a supposedly bedrock principle of law, coming out of tax law, that a citizen could do anything legal, to minimize their payments to the government, or for any self-interested reason, so long as technically within the law.
Good times.
Good times.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (3Rr8K)
79
So he was gay pedo before being gay pedo was cool?
Posted by: wth at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (HgMAr)
80
So if someone follows the law and gifts someone with less than $10,000 to avoid paying the tax penalty, is that now illegal?
Where are Hastert's lawyers on this?
So if someone follows the law and gifts someone with less than $10,000 to avoid paying the tax penalty, is that now illegal?
Where are Hastert's lawyers on this?
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (6YRzC)
81
Too bad he wasn't a Democrat, all would have been forgiven.
Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (4kTo2)
82
there isn't anything he's done that couldn't be adequately punished with a couple of fire ant hills, some cheap pancake syrup, a few tent stakes and some rope...
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (WhYLb)
83
Soon, we will have to report all bank transactions to our benevolent government.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (6bMel)
84
55 - Common Sense, Universal, Mandatory Sodomy For The Kids! A modest proposal whose time is here. Community organized by your local LBGT devout.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein, Brattleboro Women's Health Clinic at April 27, 2016 03:28 PM (ucB75)
85
So if someone follows the law and gifts someone with less than $10,000 to avoid paying the tax penalty, is that now illegal?
Where are Hastert's lawyers on this?
Posted by: Jen the original
The issue was CASH.
If you take out more than $10k in cash and don't properly report it, it's against certain "money laundering" laws.
The bullshit part was Hastert was going under the limit in order to comply with the law, but that was also considered against the law.
Where are Hastert's lawyers on this?
Posted by: Jen the original
The issue was CASH.
If you take out more than $10k in cash and don't properly report it, it's against certain "money laundering" laws.
The bullshit part was Hastert was going under the limit in order to comply with the law, but that was also considered against the law.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:28 PM (sDOgQ)
86
Sigh. I need more caffeine. I can't even ragetwitch right now.
Posted by: alexthechick
Pro tip: You have had the correct amount of caffeine when you can thread a sewing machine.
While it's running.
Posted by: alexthechick
Pro tip: You have had the correct amount of caffeine when you can thread a sewing machine.
While it's running.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (Jcvz2)
87
>>Soon, we will have to report all bank transactions to our benevolent government.
That's the point of a cashless society, right?
That's the point of a cashless society, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (NOIQH)
88
Democrat US Representative Gary Studds is chuckling today.
Posted by: rd at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (v0YLX)
89
"A man who alleges he was sexually abused by former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert and later promised $3.5 million to stay quiet filed a breach-of-contract lawsuit Monday, saying he's owed more than half the money Hastert promised."
I'm sorry, but a contract to conceal a crime in exchange for money cannot be enforced as it is against public policy since, oh gosh - I think the time of Queen Anne. At least, that is how I remember it.
I'm sorry, but a contract to conceal a crime in exchange for money cannot be enforced as it is against public policy since, oh gosh - I think the time of Queen Anne. At least, that is how I remember it.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Pox Vobiscum - Get Your Literate Latinate Curses from the Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (hLRSq)
90
83
Soon, we will have to report all bank transactions to our benevolent government.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (6bMel)
The bank already has an obligation to report anything it thinks is suspicious.
Soon, we will have to report all bank transactions to our benevolent government.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (6bMel)
The bank already has an obligation to report anything it thinks is suspicious.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (5f5bM)
91
Story a year or two back of a Mom and Pop grocer in a sketchy part of town who made cash deposits in the bank of amounts just under $10,000. As anybody who runs a business knows, standard business insurance will cover a cash loss due to theft up to $10,000. The goverment confiscated their entire account and after years of fighting offered to settle for something like 20 cents on the dollar. There was never any indication the couple were involved in anything illegal, the goverment just did it because they could.
These laws and civil forfeiture laws are not to protect against crime, they are to provide goverment with a monolopy on it.
Posted by: mov at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (kUmUV)
That's it, it was the grocery store.
Here's a good article on the insanity of structuring charges. http://wapo.st/1WTbWSf
These laws and civil forfeiture laws are not to protect against crime, they are to provide goverment with a monolopy on it.
Posted by: mov at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (kUmUV)
That's it, it was the grocery store.
Here's a good article on the insanity of structuring charges. http://wapo.st/1WTbWSf
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (mf5HN)
92
Observations about Hastert from a previous thread (doing my Jim Geraghty impersonation)...
-
Hastert is loathsome if he did in fact molest those boys. I've always
had my suspicions about men who are eager to hang out with teenage boys
(especially coming from the Chicago area).
- However, since
homosexuals groom adolescent and young men and homosexuality is now
mainstream hunky-dory, how will the legal system handle these cases?
- I think what sank Hastert is that he went on the offensive against the extorter and tried to set him up in the eyes of the gov't.
- Where does a former government employee and ex-gym teacher come up with the type of money to pay that kind of extortion money?
-
If those boys were truly victimized, they should have come forward
earlier. Doing so would have prevented others from the same fate. They
have suffered due to his reprehensible behavior but at least one still
attempted to profit off of it.
- Getting the conviction on banking fraud is an absolute load of Patriot Act bullshit government intrusion.
- This will only get more convoluted under a TrumpClinton presidency.
-
Hastert is loathsome if he did in fact molest those boys. I've always
had my suspicions about men who are eager to hang out with teenage boys
(especially coming from the Chicago area).
- However, since
homosexuals groom adolescent and young men and homosexuality is now
mainstream hunky-dory, how will the legal system handle these cases?
- I think what sank Hastert is that he went on the offensive against the extorter and tried to set him up in the eyes of the gov't.
- Where does a former government employee and ex-gym teacher come up with the type of money to pay that kind of extortion money?
-
If those boys were truly victimized, they should have come forward
earlier. Doing so would have prevented others from the same fate. They
have suffered due to his reprehensible behavior but at least one still
attempted to profit off of it.
- Getting the conviction on banking fraud is an absolute load of Patriot Act bullshit government intrusion.
- This will only get more convoluted under a TrumpClinton presidency.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (hqZPQ)
93
Soon, we will have to report all bank transactions to our benevolent government.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (6bMel)
---------
No need, but thanks for the thought.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (6bMel)
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No need, but thanks for the thought.
Posted by: NSA-IRS Joint Task Force 15 at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (NUqwG)
94
so... if I own a business and my rent is $15,000 a month, I could be in trouble if I pay him $7500 every two weeks?
Posted by: Satan of Blutwurst Vt at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (qSIlh)
95
Anyone who abuses a child, dependent adult, or animal gets no mercy from me. No tears for Hastert as his 15 months in the pokey may end very badly for him. Even in a cushy federal prison no one likes a molester. Hastert has been sentenced to the wrong crimes.
Then you have Hillary who harangued a victim of abuse and then laughed about it. A woman who her entire adult life has been corrupt with no redeeming qualities. From Watergate to email servers she has had no remorse, shame, and will deny everything until the day she dies.
Then you have Hillary who harangued a victim of abuse and then laughed about it. A woman who her entire adult life has been corrupt with no redeeming qualities. From Watergate to email servers she has had no remorse, shame, and will deny everything until the day she dies.
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Harry Reid at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (TJCSB)
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Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:27 PM (6bMel)
***
I'm as close to un-banked as possible. I've got a business account, for my little laundromat, but otherwise, it's cash or precious metals or barter or trade only.
***
I'm as close to un-banked as possible. I've got a business account, for my little laundromat, but otherwise, it's cash or precious metals or barter or trade only.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (lutOX)
98
And btw, anyone who believes that because child molestation is a despicable crime and those who commit it should be punished severely (which I agree with) but who then thinks that this punishment can be meted out in prison by other prisoners are applauding a crime that is allowed to be perpetuated in our prisons by prison officials.
Punishment should be meted out by law and not by criminals. No matter how despicable the criminal is no one should face torture and sexual assault in prison. Yet we as a people allow this unfortunate situation to exist in our prisons.
It is cruel and unusual punishment and is more often handed out to the weak and emotional stunted rather than the heinous criminals who might actually deserve it.
Repeat applauding punishment meted out by criminals in prison is shameful and anyone who does should reevaluate their sense of right and wrong.
No one should be faced with the additional punishment of sexual torture and assault along with society's penalty for their criminal act(s).
It's uncivilized. If you think that's a good idea for a punishment then get the laws changed and have it done on purpose not at the whim of some other miscreant.
Punishment should be meted out by law and not by criminals. No matter how despicable the criminal is no one should face torture and sexual assault in prison. Yet we as a people allow this unfortunate situation to exist in our prisons.
It is cruel and unusual punishment and is more often handed out to the weak and emotional stunted rather than the heinous criminals who might actually deserve it.
Repeat applauding punishment meted out by criminals in prison is shameful and anyone who does should reevaluate their sense of right and wrong.
No one should be faced with the additional punishment of sexual torture and assault along with society's penalty for their criminal act(s).
It's uncivilized. If you think that's a good idea for a punishment then get the laws changed and have it done on purpose not at the whim of some other miscreant.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (Xo1Rt)
99
In 1927 the Supreme Court said that income from a CRIME, is subject to income tax.
So after being tried for vagrancy in Florida, Al Capone was tried by the Feds for income tax evasion... and the main piece of evidence was a letter from his Lawyer, trying to PAY those taxes.
So the Feds essentially changed the Law, and then Convicted him for trying to resolve the legal situation he was now in, due to the change in the Law.
They will eventually make everything illegal... but NOT enforce laws unless they WANT to get you... and then not convict you for the actual crime... but for some other now illegal act.
So after being tried for vagrancy in Florida, Al Capone was tried by the Feds for income tax evasion... and the main piece of evidence was a letter from his Lawyer, trying to PAY those taxes.
So the Feds essentially changed the Law, and then Convicted him for trying to resolve the legal situation he was now in, due to the change in the Law.
They will eventually make everything illegal... but NOT enforce laws unless they WANT to get you... and then not convict you for the actual crime... but for some other now illegal act.
Posted by: Don Q at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (qf6WZ)
100
73 - I thought the new wage of consent was 15? (off sock)
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (ucB75)
101
@83 - You effectively already do, whether you know it or not. Banks have to report a certain number of transactions deemed suspicious or they get fined. Assume everything you do at the bank is being reported.
To meet that quota suspicious could mean you went in wearing a blue shirt that day when you normally wear brown.
To meet that quota suspicious could mean you went in wearing a blue shirt that day when you normally wear brown.
Posted by: mov at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (kUmUV)
102
But what OJ is in prison for was not a technicality, it was basically armed robbery. Anybody would be going to prison for that.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (sDOgQ)
++++
True, but he was sentenced to 33 years in prison for that first offense. The sentence was clearly payback for the murders he was not convicted of.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (sDOgQ)
++++
True, but he was sentenced to 33 years in prison for that first offense. The sentence was clearly payback for the murders he was not convicted of.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 03:31 PM (R+30W)
103
Liberty Safes!!!
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (oiNtH)
104
I think polygamy is next, probably in the form of a Muslim US citizen man who wants his multiple marriages to US citizen women made overseas to be recognized, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts will oblige. But doing away with, or lowering, the age of consent is probably also not far off.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (5f5bM)
My biggest issue with this is the government being required to provide housing/school for military/Foreign Service employees with more than one spouse. It's bad enough the costs for domestic partners, etc, which often change every few months, but can you imagine finding housing for a guy with four or more wives and the subsequent kids?
Nightmares, but hey, that slippery slope stuff was just racist and bigoted.
I think polygamy is next, probably in the form of a Muslim US citizen man who wants his multiple marriages to US citizen women made overseas to be recognized, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts will oblige. But doing away with, or lowering, the age of consent is probably also not far off.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (5f5bM)
My biggest issue with this is the government being required to provide housing/school for military/Foreign Service employees with more than one spouse. It's bad enough the costs for domestic partners, etc, which often change every few months, but can you imagine finding housing for a guy with four or more wives and the subsequent kids?
Nightmares, but hey, that slippery slope stuff was just racist and bigoted.
Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (ezHMO)
105
For some reason, he tried to explain his money transactions.
He should have told the federal agents to go fuck themselves.
Could they possibly have made a case for "structuring"? Maybe. But if he had anyone other than a total idiot as a lawyer, he could have prevented the reason for his transactions from coming to light.
He should have been caught and prosecuted years ago. High school wrestlers know when someone is sucking their dick, and they know the coach isn't suppose to do that. No sympathy for not coming forward then.
Also, whoever was blackmailing him should be charged with that crime.
He should have told the federal agents to go fuck themselves.
Could they possibly have made a case for "structuring"? Maybe. But if he had anyone other than a total idiot as a lawyer, he could have prevented the reason for his transactions from coming to light.
He should have been caught and prosecuted years ago. High school wrestlers know when someone is sucking their dick, and they know the coach isn't suppose to do that. No sympathy for not coming forward then.
Also, whoever was blackmailing him should be charged with that crime.
Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (Zs4uk)
106
Is it too early in the comments to make fun of Penn State?
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (F6/Mp)
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (uLuPn)
108
If you think that's a good idea for a punishment
then get the laws changed and have it done on purpose not at the whim of
some other miscreant.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (Xo1Rt)
The homos would line up to be the "executioners".
then get the laws changed and have it done on purpose not at the whim of
some other miscreant.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (Xo1Rt)
The homos would line up to be the "executioners".
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (5f5bM)
109
EZ Pass data, Metrocard data, ATM cards, smartphone trackers, street camera surveillance, car speed governors, red light cameras, facial recognition software, internet cookies, bulk data collection, metadata mining, social media flags, speech codes, free speech "areas," gun registration, income tax, property tax, sales tax, death tax, FCC, IRS, EPA, TSA, BLM, Obamacare, Common Core and HUD.
Thank God we live in a free country
Thank God we live in a free country
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (3Rr8K)
110
Ted Cruz just announced he'll pick Tom Brady for quarterback if he ever wins the Powerballs and buys and NFL team.
Ted Cruz just announced he'll pick Tom Brady for quarterback if he ever wins the Powerballs and buys and NFL team.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (qAxSt)
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (mcm0N)
112
87 >>Soon, we will have to report all bank transactions to our benevolent government.
That's the point of a cashless society, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (NOIQH)
No, the point is that they can turn off the ability of undesireables to have any transactions. Undesireables like you.
Want to buy a gun at Bobs Gun Shop? Sorry, that transaction is not allowed.
That's the point of a cashless society, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 03:29 PM (NOIQH)
No, the point is that they can turn off the ability of undesireables to have any transactions. Undesireables like you.
Want to buy a gun at Bobs Gun Shop? Sorry, that transaction is not allowed.
Posted by: rd at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (v0YLX)
113
"Hastert said he wanted to check a groin pull the boy suffered, ordering him onto a bed and telling him to take off his underwear."
I taught him that one.
I taught him that one.
Posted by: Harry Reid at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (OD2ni)
114
Posted by: TX at April 27, 2016 03:23 PM (ZXipY)
Troll believes gay sex=pedastry?
Well, now that's interesting.
Troll believes gay sex=pedastry?
Well, now that's interesting.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (u0lmX)
115
98-absolutely agree with that.
Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (ezHMO)
116
He will appeal this, of course.
I would, if it were me.
This ain't right.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (uLuPn)
I think it was a plea bargain. He won't be appealing.
I would, if it were me.
This ain't right.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (uLuPn)
I think it was a plea bargain. He won't be appealing.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (5f5bM)
117
But what OJ is in prison for was not a technicality, it was basically armed robbery. Anybody would be going to prison for that.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (sDOgQ)
++++
True, but he was sentenced to 33 years in prison for that first offense. The sentence was clearly payback for the murders he was not convicted of.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
Probably, but armed robbery and kidnapping would have put anyone away for decades.
What Hastert was convicted on truly was a bullshit technicality.
I also can guarantee you had Hastert been a Democrat the main story would have been the blackmailer who'd be getting convicted right now.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (sDOgQ)
++++
True, but he was sentenced to 33 years in prison for that first offense. The sentence was clearly payback for the murders he was not convicted of.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
Probably, but armed robbery and kidnapping would have put anyone away for decades.
What Hastert was convicted on truly was a bullshit technicality.
I also can guarantee you had Hastert been a Democrat the main story would have been the blackmailer who'd be getting convicted right now.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (sDOgQ)
118
Also, whoever was blackmailing him should be charged with that crime.
Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (Zs4uk)
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something jwest wrote.
Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (Zs4uk)
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something jwest wrote.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (6bMel)
Posted by: That One Congress Critter at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (qul7b)
120
If Hastert "identified" as a high school sophomore, is what he did so wrong?
If Hastert "identified" as a high school sophomore, is what he did so wrong?
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 27, 2016 03:34 PM (qAxSt)
121
I don't know if you want to hitch a good argument to Hastert's creepy vileness.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:35 PM (mcm0N)
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So did the guy blackmailing pedo bear pay taxes on the extortion money? Does the IRS care?
Posted by: NCKate at April 27, 2016 03:35 PM (O46jc)
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>>>>So he was gay pedo before being gay pedo was cool?
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.Nope, he was a Republican, he doesn't get the waiver.
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.Nope, he was a Republican, he doesn't get the waiver.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 03:35 PM (iONHu)
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it's not just the feds who are making shit up to take our money away...
here in #Failifornia, the FTB has placed a lien on me for over $14K in taxes, penalties and interest on money i never even made.
they just decided that, since i had a state registration and a city tax certificate, that i was making the average annual income in both trades, and taxed me accordingly.
here in #Failifornia, the FTB has placed a lien on me for over $14K in taxes, penalties and interest on money i never even made.
they just decided that, since i had a state registration and a city tax certificate, that i was making the average annual income in both trades, and taxed me accordingly.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (WhYLb)
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (8BJMp)
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My biggest issue with this is the government being
required to provide housing/school for military/Foreign Service
employees with more than one spouse. It's bad enough the costs for
domestic partners, etc, which often change every few months, but can you
imagine finding housing for a guy with four or more wives and the
subsequent kids?
Nightmares, but hey, that slippery slope stuff was just racist and bigoted.
Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (ezHMO)
No, the biggest issue is that it's one more blow to our civilization as we have always known it. Makes it easier to accept being ruled by your socialist masters. #NewSovietMan
required to provide housing/school for military/Foreign Service
employees with more than one spouse. It's bad enough the costs for
domestic partners, etc, which often change every few months, but can you
imagine finding housing for a guy with four or more wives and the
subsequent kids?
Nightmares, but hey, that slippery slope stuff was just racist and bigoted.
Posted by: Moki at April 27, 2016 03:32 PM (ezHMO)
No, the biggest issue is that it's one more blow to our civilization as we have always known it. Makes it easier to accept being ruled by your socialist masters. #NewSovietMan
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (5f5bM)
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Gotta keep it separated.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (mcm0N)
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It's definitely coming.
http://tinyurl.com/p2c2yu9
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (/CXhS)
I think polygamy is next, probably in the form of a Muslim US citizen man who wants his multiple marriages to US citizen women made overseas to be recognized, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts will oblige. But doing away with, or lowering, the age of consent is probably also not far off.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27,
2016 03:26 PM (5f5bM)
They won't go after pedophilia (pre-pubescent) at first, they'll stick to post-pubescent. Why? Because we already expect post-pubescent minors to be sexually active and even have full control over "reproductive rights"
If you don't want to read something that will make you rage, then you should avoid this:
http://egomoral.com/is-pedophilia-natural/
http://tinyurl.com/p2c2yu9
List of pedophile and pederast advocacy organizations
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:22 PM (/CXhS)
I think polygamy is next, probably in the form of a Muslim US citizen man who wants his multiple marriages to US citizen women made overseas to be recognized, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts will oblige. But doing away with, or lowering, the age of consent is probably also not far off.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27,
2016 03:26 PM (5f5bM)
They won't go after pedophilia (pre-pubescent) at first, they'll stick to post-pubescent. Why? Because we already expect post-pubescent minors to be sexually active and even have full control over "reproductive rights"
If you don't want to read something that will make you rage, then you should avoid this:
http://egomoral.com/is-pedophilia-natural/
Posted by: Hey sonny, blow my whistle! at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (vBeA5)
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I do think pedophilia will be the next frontier for Progressives.
At the very least, there will be a big push in public schools to encourage homosexuality among children.
If they're willing to sacrifice kids for stupid bathroom laws, is that really a stretch?
The New Left is truly evil.
At the very least, there will be a big push in public schools to encourage homosexuality among children.
If they're willing to sacrifice kids for stupid bathroom laws, is that really a stretch?
The New Left is truly evil.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (sDOgQ)
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Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:23 PM (5f5bM)
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Two things:
1) this was clearly an ephebic affair for Hastert. But for the gay angle, I agree that - especially at the time when the events transpired - it probably wouldn't have been treated as a big deal. In the 60s and 70s, adults fucking teenagers was sort of a thing - there were even popular songs about it (i.e. Chevy Van). I'm sure that the same people who think Roman Polansky is being unjustly persecuted and who support everything gay will nevertheless take delight in punching Hastert around as a proxy for other people they don't like. (us).
2) no matter his crime I don't encourage prison rape as an extrajudicial form of punishment, and I think normalizing the idea that it is just desserts for anyone creates a climate where prison personnel might feel justified in "looking the other way."
_________________________
Two things:
1) this was clearly an ephebic affair for Hastert. But for the gay angle, I agree that - especially at the time when the events transpired - it probably wouldn't have been treated as a big deal. In the 60s and 70s, adults fucking teenagers was sort of a thing - there were even popular songs about it (i.e. Chevy Van). I'm sure that the same people who think Roman Polansky is being unjustly persecuted and who support everything gay will nevertheless take delight in punching Hastert around as a proxy for other people they don't like. (us).
2) no matter his crime I don't encourage prison rape as an extrajudicial form of punishment, and I think normalizing the idea that it is just desserts for anyone creates a climate where prison personnel might feel justified in "looking the other way."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (RfZaB)
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There are some that criticize some of his accusers of not reporting his abuse of them earlier. I don't think it is very easy for a 14 year old kid, male, to come forward and report what his coach did to him. Shame, fear....
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (oiNtH)
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If Hastert "identified" as a high school sophomore, is what he did so wrong?
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 27, 2016 03:34 PM (qAxSt)
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It depends. It would be wrong if other party were a student attending the same school that Coach worked. Still can't do with "student". If student from a competing school, then OK.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 27, 2016 03:34 PM (qAxSt)
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It depends. It would be wrong if other party were a student attending the same school that Coach worked. Still can't do with "student". If student from a competing school, then OK.
Posted by: An Extremist at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (NUqwG)
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I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something jwest wrote.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (6bMel)
It feels good to be right, doesn't it?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (6bMel)
It feels good to be right, doesn't it?
Posted by: jwest at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (Zs4uk)
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One thing we can't accuse Hastert of is abusing the Democrats.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (TJCSB)
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You've got a good argument here,would be a shame if you Hastert it.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (mcm0N)
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Show me the person and I'll give you the crime charge.
Isn't that from the Soviet Union?
Three Felonies A Day is what it is now. Don't worry, most of the time it'll be a fine and diversion, citizen...most of the time.
And the cops wonder why a lot of people have started hating them.
Show me the person and I'll give you the crime charge.
Isn't that from the Soviet Union?
Three Felonies A Day is what it is now. Don't worry, most of the time it'll be a fine and diversion, citizen...most of the time.
And the cops wonder why a lot of people have started hating them.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (hqZPQ)
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>>No, the point is that they can turn off the ability of undesireables to have any transactions. Undesireables like you.
Want to buy a gun at Bobs Gun Shop? Sorry, that transaction is not allowed.
Oh, I thought that was the point of driverless cars!
Sorry, can't reach your destination outside the city today, main system's been shut down until further notice!
Want to buy a gun at Bobs Gun Shop? Sorry, that transaction is not allowed.
Oh, I thought that was the point of driverless cars!
Sorry, can't reach your destination outside the city today, main system's been shut down until further notice!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (NOIQH)
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One thing we can't accuse Hastert of is abusing the Democrats.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (TJCSB)
+1
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (TJCSB)
+1
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (F6/Mp)
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (oiNtH)
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I think normalizing the idea that it is just desserts for anyone creates a climate where prison personnel might feel justified in "looking the other way."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (RfZaB)
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Not without some cash.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 03:37 PM (RfZaB)
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Not without some cash.
Posted by: Prison Guard at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (NUqwG)
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Because we already expect post-pubescent minors to be sexually active and even have full control over "reproductive rights"
Posted by: Hey sonny, blow my whistle! at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (vBeA5)
And we give them condoms in school to facilitate it.
Posted by: Hey sonny, blow my whistle! at April 27, 2016 03:36 PM (vBeA5)
And we give them condoms in school to facilitate it.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at April 27, 2016 03:39 PM (5f5bM)
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It has already begun.
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (oiNtH)
Was about to say, that yeah it seems like they not only want kids to tolerate gays, they are encouraging experimenting. Darwin wept.
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (oiNtH)
Was about to say, that yeah it seems like they not only want kids to tolerate gays, they are encouraging experimenting. Darwin wept.
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 03:39 PM (F6/Mp)
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I know, let's give prosecutors control over all the Smart Guns!
Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 27, 2016 03:40 PM (3Rr8K)
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Oh, I thought that was the point of driverless cars!
Sorry, can't reach your destination outside the city today, main system's been shut down until further notice!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (NOIQH)
*Quietly hums Red Barchetta for some reason*
Sorry, can't reach your destination outside the city today, main system's been shut down until further notice!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2016 03:38 PM (NOIQH)
*Quietly hums Red Barchetta for some reason*
Posted by: Pug Mahon at April 27, 2016 03:40 PM (RwwCT)
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The structuring law was passed long before 9-11 and has nothing to do with the patriot act. It was passed as a tool to go after drug dealers. Another loss of freedom and idiot law due to the insane war on drugs that the government lost decades ago.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 27, 2016 03:40 PM (vvmPQ)
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Coach was an excellent appropriator and an outstanding Member, one who was able to grab the hard dollars and pull money from Democrat districts.
A Republican's Republican!
A Republican's Republican!
Posted by: John Boehner at April 27, 2016 03:40 PM (LISuA)
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Probably, but armed robbery and kidnapping would have put anyone away for decades.
What Hastert was convicted on truly was a bullshit technicality.
I also can guarantee you had Hastert been a Democrat the main story would have been the blackmailer who'd be getting convicted right now.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (sDOgQ)
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Yeah, but the kidnapping was a bullshit charge. Under the prosecution's theory, anyone committing an armed robbery is simultaneously committing a kidnapping since the people being robbed are not free to leave. He didn't kidnap anyone. He was charged that way because of technicalities.
What Hastert was convicted on truly was a bullshit technicality.
I also can guarantee you had Hastert been a Democrat the main story would have been the blackmailer who'd be getting convicted right now.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (sDOgQ)
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Yeah, but the kidnapping was a bullshit charge. Under the prosecution's theory, anyone committing an armed robbery is simultaneously committing a kidnapping since the people being robbed are not free to leave. He didn't kidnap anyone. He was charged that way because of technicalities.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 03:40 PM (R+30W)
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98 And btw, anyone who believes that because child molestation is a despicable crime and those who commit it should be punished severely (which I agree with) but who then thinks that this punishment can be meted out in prison by other prisoners are applauding a crime that is allowed to be perpetuated in our prisons by prison officials.
Punishment should be meted out by law and not by criminals. No matter how despicable the criminal is no one should face torture and sexual assault in prison. Yet we as a people allow this unfortunate situation to exist in our prisons.
It is cruel and unusual punishment and is more often handed out to the weak and emotional stunted rather than the heinous criminals who might actually deserve it.
Repeat applauding punishment meted out by criminals in prison is shameful and anyone who does should reevaluate their sense of right and wrong.
No one should be faced with the additional punishment of sexual torture and assault along with society's penalty for their criminal act(s).
It's uncivilized. If you think that's a good idea for a punishment then get the laws changed and have it done on purpose not at the whim of some other miscreant.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (Xo1Rt)
I wasn't on the US Supreme Court that decided the death penalty for rape and mutilating your victim is cruel and unusual punishment. We must not let the state kill rapists.
We can change all the laws we want, nine clowns in black robes will overrule us and the elected legislature.
So, No. I do not like that we need extra judicial punishments. But there is Justice and "Justice."
Punishment should be meted out by law and not by criminals. No matter how despicable the criminal is no one should face torture and sexual assault in prison. Yet we as a people allow this unfortunate situation to exist in our prisons.
It is cruel and unusual punishment and is more often handed out to the weak and emotional stunted rather than the heinous criminals who might actually deserve it.
Repeat applauding punishment meted out by criminals in prison is shameful and anyone who does should reevaluate their sense of right and wrong.
No one should be faced with the additional punishment of sexual torture and assault along with society's penalty for their criminal act(s).
It's uncivilized. If you think that's a good idea for a punishment then get the laws changed and have it done on purpose not at the whim of some other miscreant.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 27, 2016 03:30 PM (Xo1Rt)
I wasn't on the US Supreme Court that decided the death penalty for rape and mutilating your victim is cruel and unusual punishment. We must not let the state kill rapists.
We can change all the laws we want, nine clowns in black robes will overrule us and the elected legislature.
So, No. I do not like that we need extra judicial punishments. But there is Justice and "Justice."
Posted by: rd at April 27, 2016 03:40 PM (v0YLX)
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What was troubling about Hastert's sentencing is that the judge meted out a sentence that was longer than was defined for the crime for which he was convicted. The judge stated that he wished that the conviction was for molestation, and that he was increasing the sentence as a result of the uncharged accusations. I sense an appeal as a result. The rot runs deep when judges hold the rule of law in contempt.
Posted by: David at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (SO2HP)
150
Pederasts. I hate those guys.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (0mRoj)
151
How come what I write is being deleted? Who did I p*ss off?
Posted by: Diogenes at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (r65B3)
152
>>>>>Two things:
1) this was clearly an ephebic affair for Hastert.
But for the gay angle, I agree that - especially at the time when the
events transpired - it probably wouldn't have been treated as a big
deal. In the 60s and 70s, adults fucking teenagers was sort of a thing -
there were even popular songs about it (i.e. Chevy Van). I'm sure that
the same people who think Roman Polansky is being unjustly persecuted
and who support everything gay will nevertheless take delight in
punching Hastert around as a proxy for other people they don't like.
(us).
.
.
.
.Young Girl by Gary Puckett,
1) this was clearly an ephebic affair for Hastert.
But for the gay angle, I agree that - especially at the time when the
events transpired - it probably wouldn't have been treated as a big
deal. In the 60s and 70s, adults fucking teenagers was sort of a thing -
there were even popular songs about it (i.e. Chevy Van). I'm sure that
the same people who think Roman Polansky is being unjustly persecuted
and who support everything gay will nevertheless take delight in
punching Hastert around as a proxy for other people they don't like.
(us).
.
.
.
.Young Girl by Gary Puckett,
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 03:42 PM (iONHu)
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Hey little girls-- you've got two seconds to determine if the dude who looks like a lady in your bathroom is a perv or a tranny. If you knee him and run--and you guessed wrong--you are now guilty of a hate crime.
USA!
USA!
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:43 PM (mcm0N)
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41 36 Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 03:17 PM (Jcvz2)
Studds didn't go to jail either...
Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (g8Hfr)
The Democrats practically canonized that fucker.
Studds didn't go to jail either...
Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2016 03:18 PM (g8Hfr)
The Democrats practically canonized that fucker.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:43 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 27, 2016 03:43 PM (qAxSt)
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I'm late to this story.
So Hastert was being blackmailed, and structured the blackmail payments legally, but he's the perpetrator, not the victim?
WTF? I thought blackmail (extortion, whatever) was a crime?
So Hastert was being blackmailed, and structured the blackmail payments legally, but he's the perpetrator, not the victim?
WTF? I thought blackmail (extortion, whatever) was a crime?
Posted by: the other coyote at April 27, 2016 03:44 PM (yK44T)
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.Young Girl by Gary Puckett,
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 03:42 PM (iONHu)
Isn't there a pretty epic Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla podcast about all the 70's songs about statutory rape?
I vaguely recall ace doing a post about it.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 03:42 PM (iONHu)
Isn't there a pretty epic Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla podcast about all the 70's songs about statutory rape?
I vaguely recall ace doing a post about it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:44 PM (mf5HN)
158
In the last 5 years it has become so clear how much the Republicans are shitheels.
Not a good one in the bunch, it seems.
In the last 5 years it has become so clear how much the Republicans are shitheels.
Not a good one in the bunch, it seems.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 27, 2016 03:44 PM (qAxSt)
159
Vic, you are correct...I stand corrected on the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act was responsible for deprivation of liberties, impositions on the citizenry, and enabling of a perpetual police state, but not the money laundering nonsense.
Geez, I'm turning into a DU guy.
Geez, I'm turning into a DU guy.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 03:44 PM (hqZPQ)
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 27, 2016 03:44 PM (RcpcZ)
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Here is a truly innocent guy that got caught up in the govts structuring crap.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p7zbzal
Story is from last year.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/p7zbzal
Story is from last year.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (tf9Ne)
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Was about to say, that yeah it seems like they not only want kids to tolerate gays, they are encouraging experimenting. Darwin wept.
Posted by: Draki
Tolerate, accept, normalize, and engage in it. What happened to the argument that being gay was not a choice - you were born that way.
Posted by: Draki
Tolerate, accept, normalize, and engage in it. What happened to the argument that being gay was not a choice - you were born that way.
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Vito at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (qul7b)
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Willowed from last thread...
Late to this, but I must add that...
Wait, let me do a disclosure: I do not hold a person's appearance against them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.
But the one "woman" who demanded to not be treated like a child is a vile, disgustingly ulgy person. She would be... not my type even on her best days... and I'm no Prince Charming to a vast number of women either, but she transcends everyday standards of being presentable in both appearance and attitude.
She has gone lunar miles beyond the "there's someone out there who thinks you're beautiful" scale. I can't believe that anyone (who knows what she is about) wouldn't cringe when she walks into a room.
She has taken her worst attributes and magnified them into her entire being so that she can stand up to... what, exactly?... she's not even there so she can sit at the cool kids SJW table.
She hates the SJW's just as much. She hates everyone and anything, including herself.
It's interesting though, that she can use the SJW as a conduit to spread her filthy hate. It should serve as proof that we are on the side of the angels, no matter our individual physical appearance.
Posted by: AmeriDan
Late to this, but I must add that...
Wait, let me do a disclosure: I do not hold a person's appearance against them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.
But the one "woman" who demanded to not be treated like a child is a vile, disgustingly ulgy person. She would be... not my type even on her best days... and I'm no Prince Charming to a vast number of women either, but she transcends everyday standards of being presentable in both appearance and attitude.
She has gone lunar miles beyond the "there's someone out there who thinks you're beautiful" scale. I can't believe that anyone (who knows what she is about) wouldn't cringe when she walks into a room.
She has taken her worst attributes and magnified them into her entire being so that she can stand up to... what, exactly?... she's not even there so she can sit at the cool kids SJW table.
She hates the SJW's just as much. She hates everyone and anything, including herself.
It's interesting though, that she can use the SJW as a conduit to spread her filthy hate. It should serve as proof that we are on the side of the angels, no matter our individual physical appearance.
Posted by: AmeriDan
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (+CKpi)
165
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something jwest wrote.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
To quote the HQ's preeminent philosophress, "even a blind squirrel fucks a pumpkin twice a day".
Posted by: chique d'afrique
To quote the HQ's preeminent philosophress, "even a blind squirrel fucks a pumpkin twice a day".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (1xUj/)
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Yeah, but the kidnapping was a bullshit charge. Under the prosecution's theory, anyone committing an armed robbery is simultaneously committing a kidnapping since the people being robbed are not free to leave. He didn't kidnap anyone. He was charged that way because of technicalities.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
That type of tactic though is pretty standard, they didn't just use it because it was OJ.
If someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid" that is held hostage.
I found this:
"On the audiotape, recorded by Thomas Riccio, Simpson is heard saying: "Don't let nobody out of this room...You think you can steal my stuff and sell it?""
That's kidnapping.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
That type of tactic though is pretty standard, they didn't just use it because it was OJ.
If someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid" that is held hostage.
I found this:
"On the audiotape, recorded by Thomas Riccio, Simpson is heard saying: "Don't let nobody out of this room...You think you can steal my stuff and sell it?""
That's kidnapping.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (sDOgQ)
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What was troubling about Hastert's sentencing is that the judge meted out a sentence that was longer than was defined for the crime for which he was convicted. The judge stated that he wished that the conviction was for molestation, and that he was increasing the sentence as a result of the uncharged accusations. I sense an appeal as a result. The rot runs deep when judges hold the rule of law in contempt.
Posted by: David at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (SO2HP)
PREACH IT!!!
Posted by: David at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (SO2HP)
PREACH IT!!!
Posted by: Hillary Rodham Clinton and her US State Dept Posse at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (v0YLX)
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114 Posted by: TX at April 27, 2016 03:23 PM (ZXipY)
Troll believes gay sex=pedastry?
Well, now that's interesting.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (u0lmX)
Not all gay sex is pederasty but all pederasty is gay sex. Are you saying he was not in fact attracted to members of the same sex?
Troll believes gay sex=pedastry?
Well, now that's interesting.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 27, 2016 03:33 PM (u0lmX)
Not all gay sex is pederasty but all pederasty is gay sex. Are you saying he was not in fact attracted to members of the same sex?
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (0mRoj)
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165 I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something jwest wrote.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
To quote the HQ's preeminent philosophress, "even a blind squirrel fucks a pumpkin twice a day".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (1xUj/)
Wait!!!!! that's a PUMPKIN????
Posted by: chique d'afrique
To quote the HQ's preeminent philosophress, "even a blind squirrel fucks a pumpkin twice a day".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (1xUj/)
Wait!!!!! that's a PUMPKIN????
Posted by: Blind Squirrel at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (qf6WZ)
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I vaguely recall ace doing a post about it.
Posted by: alexthechick -
Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl,
You're much too young, girl
With all the charms of a woman
You've kept the secret of your youth
You led me to believe
You're old enough
To give me Love
And now it hurts to know the truth, Oh,
Beneath your perfume and make-up
You're just a baby in disguise
Posted by: alexthechick -
Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl,
You're much too young, girl
With all the charms of a woman
You've kept the secret of your youth
You led me to believe
You're old enough
To give me Love
And now it hurts to know the truth, Oh,
Beneath your perfume and make-up
You're just a baby in disguise
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (oiNtH)
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149 What was troubling about Hastert's sentencing is that the judge meted out a sentence that was longer than was defined for the crime for which he was convicted. The judge stated that he wished that the conviction was for molestation, and that he was increasing the sentence as a result of the uncharged accusations. I sense an appeal as a result. The rot runs deep when judges hold the rule of law in contempt.
Posted by: David at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (SO2HP)
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The judge didn't go against the sentencing guidelines - which allow up to 5 years, I believe - he went against the plea agreement that the prosecution and defense agreed to, which was 6 months. It is a "feature" of our system that judges are not bound by plea deals and are allowed to run wild once the defendant has pled guilty. The prosecution has discretion in deciding what charges to bring, but sentencing belongs to the judges.
Posted by: David at April 27, 2016 03:41 PM (SO2HP)
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The judge didn't go against the sentencing guidelines - which allow up to 5 years, I believe - he went against the plea agreement that the prosecution and defense agreed to, which was 6 months. It is a "feature" of our system that judges are not bound by plea deals and are allowed to run wild once the defendant has pled guilty. The prosecution has discretion in deciding what charges to bring, but sentencing belongs to the judges.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (R+30W)
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So, No. I do not like that we need extra judicial punishments. But there is Justice and "Justice."
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You either believe that the Eighth Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment or you don't. Just because the state's actors aren't doing the raping doesn't mean that when they conspire not to control the prison environment and knowingly put a prisoner in a situation where abuse is likely or inevitable they aren't meting out punishment. Doing such a thing isn't "justice," it's vengeance. There are important differences.
Most people who joke about or approve prison rape as punishment can't conceive that they'll ever be in prison - either for a mistake that ends in a catastrophe or as a true innocent and victim of a bungled or vindictive prosecutor. I know enough about life and the Courts to know that either is a distinct possibility for most people.
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You either believe that the Eighth Amendment prohibits cruel and unusual punishment or you don't. Just because the state's actors aren't doing the raping doesn't mean that when they conspire not to control the prison environment and knowingly put a prisoner in a situation where abuse is likely or inevitable they aren't meting out punishment. Doing such a thing isn't "justice," it's vengeance. There are important differences.
Most people who joke about or approve prison rape as punishment can't conceive that they'll ever be in prison - either for a mistake that ends in a catastrophe or as a true innocent and victim of a bungled or vindictive prosecutor. I know enough about life and the Courts to know that either is a distinct possibility for most people.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 03:48 PM (RfZaB)
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Still more punishment than serial rapist Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Joseph dagostino at April 27, 2016 03:48 PM (rgj9x)
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Gives whole new meaning to" put me in coach".
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (/tuJf)
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Did Hastert really stop this behavior way back when? No falling back into the pederast lifestyle between now and then?
Posted by: Eddie Baby at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (etGXU)
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Sting...."Don't Stand So Close To Me"....
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (zuTLp)
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"coach" will be catching, not pitching. Couldn't be more just...
Posted by: macleod at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (Qf5bp)
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I think what this guy did was terrible.
I have kids.
I have kids.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (uLuPn)
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>>Soon, we will have to report all bank transactions to our benevolent government.
That's the point of a cashless society, right?
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Also that ones and zeroes aren't subject to currency manipulation *in the same ways that cash is*. Gotta keep the riffraff out.
That's the point of a cashless society, right?
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Also that ones and zeroes aren't subject to currency manipulation *in the same ways that cash is*. Gotta keep the riffraff out.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (3ZtZW)
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If someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid" that is held hostage.
If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
If someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid" that is held hostage.
If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (k4M/B)
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Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 03:48 PM (RfZaB)
I used to joke about it, but after I really thought it through, and considered who would typically be on the receiving end of it, I find no humor in it at all.
I used to joke about it, but after I really thought it through, and considered who would typically be on the receiving end of it, I find no humor in it at all.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (0mRoj)
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85 So if someone follows the law and gifts someone with less than $10,000 to avoid paying the tax penalty, is that now illegal?
Where are Hastert's lawyers on this?
Posted by: Jen the original
The issue was CASH.
If you take out more than $10k in cash and don't properly report it, it's against certain "money laundering" laws.
The bullshit part was Hastert was going under the limit in order to comply with the law, but that was also considered against the law.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:28 PM (sDOgQ).
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This time the crime is worse than the cover up.
Where are Hastert's lawyers on this?
Posted by: Jen the original
The issue was CASH.
If you take out more than $10k in cash and don't properly report it, it's against certain "money laundering" laws.
The bullshit part was Hastert was going under the limit in order to comply with the law, but that was also considered against the law.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:28 PM (sDOgQ).
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This time the crime is worse than the cover up.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (mcm0N)
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Isn't there a pretty epic Dr. Drew and Adam Carolla podcast about all the 70's songs about statutory rape?
I vaguely recall ace doing a post about it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:44 PM (mf5HN)
There were a bunch of jailbait songs back then.
Ted Nugent and Motorhead each had a song called "Jailbait".
ZZ Top's "Francine" (she just turned 13)/
Nick Gilder's "Hot child in the city" (about underage prostitutes).
Heck, throw in Oingo Boingo's "Little girls"
I vaguely recall ace doing a post about it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:44 PM (mf5HN)
There were a bunch of jailbait songs back then.
Ted Nugent and Motorhead each had a song called "Jailbait".
ZZ Top's "Francine" (she just turned 13)/
Nick Gilder's "Hot child in the city" (about underage prostitutes).
Heck, throw in Oingo Boingo's "Little girls"
Posted by: The Musical Hat at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
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@172...exactly. Police corruption and utter buffoonery have led me to the point that
a) if I were on a jury, I'd probably never convict
b) I'm completely opposed to the death penalty
a) if I were on a jury, I'd probably never convict
b) I'm completely opposed to the death penalty
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (hqZPQ)
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10 and whats with all these politicians having strange kinks?
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)
I once knew a former cop from a well known city in northwestern Nevada who told me that politicians and other 'famous' people, (almost ALL of the ones he ever came into contact/knowledge about), developed 'appetites' and kinks beyond the norm. He said it was almost as if the higher the ladder, the more 'untoward' opportunities came their way and more they acted out on these...
Posted by: Grump928(c) blurts at April 27, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)
I once knew a former cop from a well known city in northwestern Nevada who told me that politicians and other 'famous' people, (almost ALL of the ones he ever came into contact/knowledge about), developed 'appetites' and kinks beyond the norm. He said it was almost as if the higher the ladder, the more 'untoward' opportunities came their way and more they acted out on these...
Posted by: the Butcher at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (AGJqR)
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"Girl, you'll be a woman soon.."
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (1xUj/)
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180
If someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid" that is held hostage.
If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (k4M/B)
More likely false imprisonment.
If someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid" that is held hostage.
If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (k4M/B)
More likely false imprisonment.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (0mRoj)
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174 Gives whole new meaning to" put me in coach".
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (/tuJf)
Gawdammit
*wipes up liquid. thankfully just water
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (/tuJf)
Gawdammit
*wipes up liquid. thankfully just water
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (/CXhS)
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I don't understand how a parent allows a kid to be alone with a coach in a motel room. I wouldn't let my kid go on a trip anywhere overnight without me being there. I don't want to blame the victim here, but seriously WTF parents?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (0LHZx)
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Back on topic, I received a (relative to me) tidy sum from an uncle's estate many years ago. Under the limit so it was tax free.
It was direct deposited into my account all at once. Over the years I would withdrawal $9,500 at intervals. Me not being a current or former Speaker of the House, it was completely legal.
It was direct deposited into my account all at once. Over the years I would withdrawal $9,500 at intervals. Me not being a current or former Speaker of the House, it was completely legal.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (+CKpi)
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15 will get you 20.....
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (zuTLp)
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If I'm on a two-lane road (so one lane in each direction), and there's a double-yellow line, and the speed limit is 40 mph and the car in front of me is doing 30 mph, does that count as kidnapping?
Posted by: Michael at April 27, 2016 03:52 PM (KClXw)
Posted by: John Boehner at April 27, 2016 03:52 PM (LISuA)
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We have no obligation to defend or stand with these scumbags.
They serve the left in this way, too: by acting as a seawall for accusations like this. Bill Clinton rape accuser threatening to step forward? Suck the oxygen out of the room with these ready-to-go stories. And the man-hours of media coverage that will go into this will add up to months of coverage time, giving the left coverage for anything else they decide they'd like cover for.
The principled right should be serving as a hunting guide to these animals for LIVs and politically agnostic Americans, not the other way around.
They serve the left in this way, too: by acting as a seawall for accusations like this. Bill Clinton rape accuser threatening to step forward? Suck the oxygen out of the room with these ready-to-go stories. And the man-hours of media coverage that will go into this will add up to months of coverage time, giving the left coverage for anything else they decide they'd like cover for.
The principled right should be serving as a hunting guide to these animals for LIVs and politically agnostic Americans, not the other way around.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 03:52 PM (xuouz)
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here were a bunch of jailbait songs back then.
Ted Nugent and Motorhead each had a song called "Jailbait".
ZZ Top's "Francine" (she just turned 13)/
Nick Gilder's "Hot child in the city" (about underage prostitutes).
Heck, throw in Oingo Boingo's "Little girls"
Posted by: The Musical Hat at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
Sting's "Don't Stand So Close To Me"
Ted Nugent and Motorhead each had a song called "Jailbait".
ZZ Top's "Francine" (she just turned 13)/
Nick Gilder's "Hot child in the city" (about underage prostitutes).
Heck, throw in Oingo Boingo's "Little girls"
Posted by: The Musical Hat at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (vBeA5)
Sting's "Don't Stand So Close To Me"
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (6YRzC)
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>>>>>If I'm on a two-lane road (so one lane in each direction), and there's a
double-yellow line, and the speed limit is 40 mph and the car in front
of me is doing 30 mph, does that count as kidnapping?
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.Only if you are driving an electric train going west.
double-yellow line, and the speed limit is 40 mph and the car in front
of me is doing 30 mph, does that count as kidnapping?
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.Only if you are driving an electric train going west.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (iONHu)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (zOTsN)
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"There were a bunch of jailbait songs back then."
Also: Sexy and 17 by the Stray cats.
Let's Go by The Cars.
Also: Sexy and 17 by the Stray cats.
Let's Go by The Cars.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (HSmrB)
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To quote the HQ's preeminent philosophress, "even a blind squirrel fucks a pumpkin twice a day".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (1xUj/)
Wait!!!!! that's a PUMPKIN????
Posted by: Blind Squirrel at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (qf6WZ)
Nope, just Nikki Minaj...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:45 PM (1xUj/)
Wait!!!!! that's a PUMPKIN????
Posted by: Blind Squirrel at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (qf6WZ)
Nope, just Nikki Minaj...
Posted by: The Gourdish Hat at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (vBeA5)
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176 Sting...."Don't Stand So Close To Me"....
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (zuTLp)
Well she was just 17, and you know what I mean...
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:49 PM (zuTLp)
Well she was just 17, and you know what I mean...
Posted by: The Beatles at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (qf6WZ)
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Mopery with intent to gawk.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (k4M/B)
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cover not coverage*
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (xuouz)
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If someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid" that is held hostage.
If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
What a stupid comparison.
OJ with other thugs holds someone up at gunpoint and says they can't leave until they do what he says.
Sure, that's the same as getting in somebody's way.
If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
What a stupid comparison.
OJ with other thugs holds someone up at gunpoint and says they can't leave until they do what he says.
Sure, that's the same as getting in somebody's way.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (sDOgQ)
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In the '70s David Hamilton's photography was considered art and his books were available in every bookstore.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (1xUj/)
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Nope, just Nikki Minaj...
Posted by: The Gourdish Hat at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (vBeA5)
Pumpkin please.
Posted by: The Gourdish Hat at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (vBeA5)
Pumpkin please.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (/CXhS)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 03:55 PM (/tuJf)
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Why did gay activists lobby and harass the BSOA so hard to allow gay scout leaders? Is there really a throng of gay men that desperately want to teach little Johnnie how to tie knots and start a fire out in the woods?
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 03:55 PM (oiNtH)
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Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 03:48 PM (RfZaB)
I used to joke about it, but after I really thought it through, and considered who would typically be on the receiving end of it, I find no humor in it at all.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (0mRoj)
I agree. I think the people who administer the punishment in prison - most of whom are no angels themselves,some of whom may have actually snuffed out another human being's life - are using it as a "legitimate" way to engage in the violence they crave.
I used to joke about it, but after I really thought it through, and considered who would typically be on the receiving end of it, I find no humor in it at all.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (0mRoj)
I agree. I think the people who administer the punishment in prison - most of whom are no angels themselves,some of whom may have actually snuffed out another human being's life - are using it as a "legitimate" way to engage in the violence they crave.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 27, 2016 03:55 PM (6bMel)
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Not all gay sex is pederasty but all pederasty is gay sex. Are you saying he was not in fact attracted to members of the same sex?
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (0mRoj)
I hear from liberals too damn often that dudes raping boys aren't gay. They make no sense....
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (0mRoj)
I hear from liberals too damn often that dudes raping boys aren't gay. They make no sense....
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 03:55 PM (F6/Mp)
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Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (hqZP
I am a fan of the death penalty for murderers. Takes the bastads outta circulation. Of course, with the caveat that the murderers are truly just that. ( I'm looking at you, judges ).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 03:51 PM (hqZP
I am a fan of the death penalty for murderers. Takes the bastads outta circulation. Of course, with the caveat that the murderers are truly just that. ( I'm looking at you, judges ).
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:55 PM (zuTLp)
Posted by: Cheech (or Chong) at April 27, 2016 03:55 PM (qul7b)
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If Hastert can be locked up,, why is Lewandoooooowwwwwwski still roaming free?
~sniff-sniff~
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (HSmrB)
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Dude get something fresher. Go gargle some Summer's Eve if you need inspiration.
If Hastert can be locked up,, why is Lewandoooooowwwwwwski still roaming free?
~sniff-sniff~
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (HSmrB)
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Dude get something fresher. Go gargle some Summer's Eve if you need inspiration.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (mcm0N)
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Also: Sexy and 17 by the Stray cats.
Let's Go by The Cars.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (OD2ni)
Except 17 is legal in most states.
Let's Go by The Cars.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 03:53 PM (OD2ni)
Except 17 is legal in most states.
Posted by: The Legal Hat at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (vBeA5)
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Mopery with intent to gawk.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (k4M/B)
Gopery with intent to mawk.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:54 PM (k4M/B)
Gopery with intent to mawk.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (xuouz)
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The principled right should be serving as a hunting guide to these animals for LIVs and politically agnostic Americans, not the other way around.
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"The Principled Right"
LMAO there isn't any such thing
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"The Principled Right"
LMAO there isn't any such thing
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (3ZtZW)
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"I think he will drop dead in prison
Posted by: ThunderB"
Would not surprise me, although Jerry Sandusky is still kicking. Speaking of which, I saw this on Sandusky's Wiki which made me laugh:
"On December 3, 2014, KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh reported that Sandusky received a letter from Penn State asking to renew his season ticket plan
Posted by: ThunderB"
Would not surprise me, although Jerry Sandusky is still kicking. Speaking of which, I saw this on Sandusky's Wiki which made me laugh:
"On December 3, 2014, KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh reported that Sandusky received a letter from Penn State asking to renew his season ticket plan
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (OD2ni)
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Is there really a throng of gay men that desperately want to teach little Johnnie how to tie knots and start a fire out in the woods?
Posted by: Cheri
Yeah, they want to start a fire in the woods all right.
Is there really a throng of gay men that desperately want to teach little Johnnie how to tie knots and start a fire out in the woods?
Posted by: Cheri
Yeah, they want to start a fire in the woods all right.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (k4M/B)
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If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (k4M/B)
Depending on jurisdiction it can be kidnapping or false imprisonment.
Once upon a time, at the old firm, I had to explain to my bosses that, no, you cannot put an employee in a room and tell her that she can't leave unless x y and z and then physically block the door. That's false imprisonment and, nope, nope, nope.
Now, you can say if you leave then you're fired and that's fine. But physically blocking the door? Hell to the no.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 27, 2016 03:50 PM (k4M/B)
Depending on jurisdiction it can be kidnapping or false imprisonment.
Once upon a time, at the old firm, I had to explain to my bosses that, no, you cannot put an employee in a room and tell her that she can't leave unless x y and z and then physically block the door. That's false imprisonment and, nope, nope, nope.
Now, you can say if you leave then you're fired and that's fine. But physically blocking the door? Hell to the no.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (mf5HN)
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She's 16, she's beautiful, and She's Mine.....
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (zuTLp)
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BURN FLORIDA!!!!!
Florida Schoolboard Implements Rule Prohibiting 'Transgender' Kids From Choosing The Bathroom They Want
Florida Schoolboard Implements Rule Prohibiting 'Transgender' Kids From Choosing The Bathroom They Want
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (/CXhS)
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If you stand in a doorway and prevent someone from leaving a building can you be charged with kidnapping?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
Maybe there's a lesser charge? With the word detainment in it. Not sure.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
Maybe there's a lesser charge? With the word detainment in it. Not sure.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 03:58 PM (+CKpi)
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not sure Chevy Van qualifies as jailbait music
I gave a girl a ride in my wagon
She crawled in and took control
She was tired as her mind was a-draggin'
I said get some sleep and we'll get on down the roadLike a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
She's gonna love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with meHer young face was like that of an angel
And her long legs were tanned and brown
Better keep your eyes on the road, son
Better slow this ve-hicle down'Cause like a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
She's gonna love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with meI put her out in a town that was so small
You could throw a rock from end to end
A dirt-road Main Street
She walked off in her bare feet
It's a shame I won't be passin' through againLike a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love in my Chevy van
And that's all right with meYeah like a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
/liner note: the Wrecking Crew did the background music
I gave a girl a ride in my wagon
She crawled in and took control
She was tired as her mind was a-draggin'
I said get some sleep and we'll get on down the roadLike a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
She's gonna love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with meHer young face was like that of an angel
And her long legs were tanned and brown
Better keep your eyes on the road, son
Better slow this ve-hicle down'Cause like a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
She's gonna love me in my Chevy van
And that's all right with meI put her out in a town that was so small
You could throw a rock from end to end
A dirt-road Main Street
She walked off in her bare feet
It's a shame I won't be passin' through againLike a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love in my Chevy van
And that's all right with meYeah like a picture she was layin' there
Moonlight dancin' off her hair
She woke up and took me by the hand
We made love in my Chevy van
And that's all right with me
/liner note: the Wrecking Crew did the background music
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2016 03:58 PM (WhYLb)
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She was 15 going on 30 doc.
Posted by: Randall Patrick McMurphy at April 27, 2016 03:58 PM (/tuJf)
225
No,I said " put me in coach" not " put it in me coach".
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (B48dK)
226
can they put him with sandusky?
Posted by: Avi at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (fijdj)
227
Except 17 is legal in most states.
Posted by: The Legal Hat at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (vBeA5)
Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
Posted by: The Legal Hat at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (vBeA5)
Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (6YRzC)
228
In all seriousness, I've concluded that Anyone who would have sex with a teenager is nuts. I mean, have you ever been around one? Ewwwww.....
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (zuTLp)
229
"Except 17 is legal in most states.
Posted by: The Legal Hat"
Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
Posted by: The Legal Hat"
Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (zOTsN)
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225 No,I said " put me in coach" not " put it in me coach".
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (B48dK)
So you want to be the pitcher this time?
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (B48dK)
So you want to be the pitcher this time?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (/CXhS)
232
Put me in coach
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi punchline #32 at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (gs8be)
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166 Yeah, but the kidnapping was a bullshit charge. Under the
prosecution's theory, anyone committing an armed robbery is
simultaneously committing a kidnapping since the people being robbed are
not free to leave. He didn't kidnap anyone. He was charged that way
because of technicalities.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
That type of tactic though is pretty standard, they didn't just use it because it was OJ.
If
someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to
leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid"
that is held hostage.
I found this:
"On the audiotape,
recorded by Thomas Riccio, Simpson is heard saying: "Don't let nobody
out of this room...You think you can steal my stuff and sell it?""
That's kidnapping.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (sDOgQ)
++++
Oh,
I agree that kidnapping isn't all about kids. Adults very much count as
victims. It's the napping part I'm talking about. The laws about
kidnapping are about taking a person, usually for ransom but other stuff
like sex slavery is also applicable. Those laws were not passed, nor
were they traditionally understood, to include run-of-the-mill armed
robbery. But, technically, the laws can be used that way, so when
prosecutors want to really go after someone, they dust them off.
Technicalities.
prosecution's theory, anyone committing an armed robbery is
simultaneously committing a kidnapping since the people being robbed are
not free to leave. He didn't kidnap anyone. He was charged that way
because of technicalities.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
That type of tactic though is pretty standard, they didn't just use it because it was OJ.
If
someone is held at gunpoint against their will and not allowed to
leave, it's a kidnapping charge. It doesn't have to actually be a "kid"
that is held hostage.
I found this:
"On the audiotape,
recorded by Thomas Riccio, Simpson is heard saying: "Don't let nobody
out of this room...You think you can steal my stuff and sell it?""
That's kidnapping.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:47 PM (sDOgQ)
++++
Oh,
I agree that kidnapping isn't all about kids. Adults very much count as
victims. It's the napping part I'm talking about. The laws about
kidnapping are about taking a person, usually for ransom but other stuff
like sex slavery is also applicable. Those laws were not passed, nor
were they traditionally understood, to include run-of-the-mill armed
robbery. But, technically, the laws can be used that way, so when
prosecutors want to really go after someone, they dust them off.
Technicalities.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:01 PM (R+30W)
Posted by: Avi at April 27, 2016 04:01 PM (fijdj)
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Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
Posted by: Jen
There's "age of consent" and then there's "daddy with a shotgun and friends".
Posted by: Jen
There's "age of consent" and then there's "daddy with a shotgun and friends".
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:01 PM (Jcvz2)
236
The Gender Ambiguous Cat is back! This one apparently identifies as a sandwich.
Posted by: rickl at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (zoehZ)
237
It's a trap!
Seriously, the law is ridiculous but some lib is going to say we're saying the child molester should go unpunished.
So can the cops write tickets for driving 34 mph in a 35 mph zone? And would they have to prove you were intentionally driving 34 in order to stay below the 35 mph limit?
Seriously, the law is ridiculous but some lib is going to say we're saying the child molester should go unpunished.
So can the cops write tickets for driving 34 mph in a 35 mph zone? And would they have to prove you were intentionally driving 34 in order to stay below the 35 mph limit?
Posted by: Dang at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (2oWD2)
238
Stray Cats was 80's.There was also "Seventeen" by Winger.Joan Jett mentions a guy being only 17 in one song.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (B48dK)
Posted by: Captain Picard to Whoopie at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (qul7b)
240
Sandusky should be in a Pennsylvania State prison I think
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (8BJMp)
241
I guess 17 is alright though.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (B48dK)
242
>>>>Except 17 is legal in most states.
Posted by: The Legal Hat at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (vBeA5)
Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
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.
.
.In New Hampshire a girl can legally get married at 13, but boys have to wait until they are 14.
Posted by: The Legal Hat at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (vBeA5)
Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
.
.
.
.In New Hampshire a girl can legally get married at 13, but boys have to wait until they are 14.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (iONHu)
243
the age of consent may be under 18, but if you're over 18, and they aren't you're like as not going to be in serious trouble.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (WhYLb)
244
"Except 17 is legal in most states.
Posted by: The Legal Hat"
Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
14 was legal until recently in Hawaii.
Posted by: The Legal Hat"
Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
14 was legal until recently in Hawaii.
Posted by: Obamao at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (T78UI)
245
220 She's 16, she's beautiful, and She's Mine.....
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (zuTLp)
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You have to remember that, until the late sixties, being in loooove and going steady didn't mean you were "going all the way."
"Puppy love" back then didn't automatically mean "teen-age sex."
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 03:57 PM (zuTLp)
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You have to remember that, until the late sixties, being in loooove and going steady didn't mean you were "going all the way."
"Puppy love" back then didn't automatically mean "teen-age sex."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (zOTsN)
247
So when Jerry Sandusky's thirty years are up, he's qualified to be Speaker of the House?
Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (UzPAd)
248
Was about to say, that yeah it seems like they not only want kids to tolerate gays, they are encouraging experimenting. Darwin wept.
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 03:39 PM (F6/Mp)
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What an unexpected prompt for these two comments I encountered a few days ago:
"What is more natural than for boys to get together in the barn...perhaps engaging in unnatural (?, ed.) practices" (Edward Ross, 1901)
"When a boy smells like a cow every time he comes into a closed room his mother...should help him find associates among ladies rather than bovines." (Warren Wilson, 1912)
Think progress!
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 03:39 PM (F6/Mp)
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What an unexpected prompt for these two comments I encountered a few days ago:
"What is more natural than for boys to get together in the barn...perhaps engaging in unnatural (?, ed.) practices" (Edward Ross, 1901)
"When a boy smells like a cow every time he comes into a closed room his mother...should help him find associates among ladies rather than bovines." (Warren Wilson, 1912)
Think progress!
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (NUqwG)
249
Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
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I think, probably because how internet pron is so common, that there's a tendency towards that age imbalance in our society these days. Of course, it could easily be what I see in my job that gives that impression, and the girls initiate just as often....
Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
===
I think, probably because how internet pron is so common, that there's a tendency towards that age imbalance in our society these days. Of course, it could easily be what I see in my job that gives that impression, and the girls initiate just as often....
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)
250
Pedophilia/pederasty is still a thang for the gay rights movement, except they now call it "intergenerational intimacy"...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 27, 2016 04:04 PM (kP16F)
251
BURN FLORIDA!!!!!
Florida Schoolboard Implements Rule Prohibiting 'Transgender' Kids From Choosing The Bathroom They Want
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
Waiting to watch Disney pull out of Florida...
Florida Schoolboard Implements Rule Prohibiting 'Transgender' Kids From Choosing The Bathroom They Want
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
Waiting to watch Disney pull out of Florida...
Posted by: Dang at April 27, 2016 04:04 PM (2oWD2)
252
Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:04 PM (mf5HN)
253
And yet the judge confessed an improper consideration in his meting out of sentence. I, too expect appeals. He wasn't an especially guilty "structurer" (an absurd crime.) His sentence is for crimes he wasn't even charged with, let alone tried for.
Posted by: SMOD come back at April 27, 2016 04:04 PM (3fTXW)
254
I detest these types of law that are for the benefit of law enforcement and primarily based in morality.
Further, it seems like this judge has merited a sentence based on "alleged" crimes (did Hasert admit to them - or was evidence presented at this trial? Either way they occurred, but he was not legally convicted.)
This is the federal government I dislike. An overbearing police force where everything is a crime.
Further, it seems like this judge has merited a sentence based on "alleged" crimes (did Hasert admit to them - or was evidence presented at this trial? Either way they occurred, but he was not legally convicted.)
This is the federal government I dislike. An overbearing police force where everything is a crime.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:05 PM (gmeXX)
255
252 He's good as the creepy perv in that movie.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:05 PM (B48dK)
256
You have to remember that, until the late sixties, being in loooove and going steady didn't mean you were "going all the way."
"Puppy love" back then didn't automatically mean "teen-age sex."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (T/5A0)
Yeah. I was just scrolling through songs. Most of the ones we are being shocked, shocked I tell you, over, are pretty damned good songs.
You have to remember that, until the late sixties, being in loooove and going steady didn't mean you were "going all the way."
"Puppy love" back then didn't automatically mean "teen-age sex."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (T/5A0)
Yeah. I was just scrolling through songs. Most of the ones we are being shocked, shocked I tell you, over, are pretty damned good songs.
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:06 PM (zuTLp)
257
I detest these types of law that are for the benefit of law enforcement and primarily based in morality.
Further, it seems like this judge has merited a sentence based on "alleged" crimes (did Hasert admit to them - or was evidence presented at this trial? Either way they occurred, but he was not legally convicted.)
This is the federal government I dislike. An overbearing police force where everything is a crime.
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Hastily typed. I meant not based primarily in morality of course.
Further, it seems like this judge has merited a sentence based on "alleged" crimes (did Hasert admit to them - or was evidence presented at this trial? Either way they occurred, but he was not legally convicted.)
This is the federal government I dislike. An overbearing police force where everything is a crime.
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Hastily typed. I meant not based primarily in morality of course.
Posted by: SH at April 27, 2016 04:06 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 27, 2016 04:06 PM (TJCSB)
259
Only Sixteen
Posted by: Sam Cooke at April 27, 2016 04:06 PM (UzPAd)
260
the age of consent may be under 18, but if you're over 18, and they aren't you're like as not going to be in serious trouble.
I know a woman whose kid's life was ruined by this.
He was 17, she was 15, they were banging lawfully. He turned 18...
I don't know what the precipitating event was that brought it to law enforcement but he's on a sex offender registry for life and may have done time.
(I only heard the story once and it's not something I want to ask about).
I know a woman whose kid's life was ruined by this.
He was 17, she was 15, they were banging lawfully. He turned 18...
I don't know what the precipitating event was that brought it to law enforcement but he's on a sex offender registry for life and may have done time.
(I only heard the story once and it's not something I want to ask about).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (1xUj/)
261
"252 Perhaps, but men ogling high school age girls is seen differently today.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery"
Its OK for woman to ogle HS girls......
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:00 PM (OD2ni)
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery"
Its OK for woman to ogle HS girls......
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (OD2ni)
262
The War on Drugs is at fault.
It starts out as a war on drugs and then transforms into a war on freedom.
It starts out as a war on drugs and then transforms into a war on freedom.
Posted by: eman at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (mR7Es)
263
Oh,
I agree that kidnapping isn't all about kids. Adults very much count as
victims. It's the napping part I'm talking about. The laws about
kidnapping are about taking a person, usually for ransom but other stuff
like sex slavery is also applicable. Those laws were not passed, nor
were they traditionally understood, to include run-of-the-mill armed
robbery. But, technically, the laws can be used that way, so when
prosecutors want to really go after someone, they dust them off.
Technicalities.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
My point was, this tactic of charging him would have been used had it been Joe Blow if there was an audiotape of that exchange.
It wasn't invented for OJ Simpson, almost any prosecutor worth their salt would have at least tried that angle to add additional charges.
Hastert though was not par for the course. This sort of law fare for not properly disclosing the amount of your own money you took out of an account is unprecedented.
I agree that kidnapping isn't all about kids. Adults very much count as
victims. It's the napping part I'm talking about. The laws about
kidnapping are about taking a person, usually for ransom but other stuff
like sex slavery is also applicable. Those laws were not passed, nor
were they traditionally understood, to include run-of-the-mill armed
robbery. But, technically, the laws can be used that way, so when
prosecutors want to really go after someone, they dust them off.
Technicalities.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
My point was, this tactic of charging him would have been used had it been Joe Blow if there was an audiotape of that exchange.
It wasn't invented for OJ Simpson, almost any prosecutor worth their salt would have at least tried that angle to add additional charges.
Hastert though was not par for the course. This sort of law fare for not properly disclosing the amount of your own money you took out of an account is unprecedented.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (sDOgQ)
264
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:04
And then you talk to one.... Ewwwww, repetez-moi, ewwww..
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:04
And then you talk to one.... Ewwwww, repetez-moi, ewwww..
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (zuTLp)
265
You have to remember that, until the late sixties, being in loooove and going steady didn't mean you were "going all the way."
"Puppy love" back then didn't automatically mean "teen-age sex."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (T/5A0)
Grandmother used to say about the graveyard in her little hometown,"There were more people conceived there than buried there."
"Puppy love" back then didn't automatically mean "teen-age sex."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:03 PM (T/5A0)
Grandmother used to say about the graveyard in her little hometown,"There were more people conceived there than buried there."
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (T78UI)
266
In all seriousness, I've concluded that Anyone who would have sex with a teenager is nuts. I mean, have you ever been around one? Ewwwww.....
Posted by: kraken
LOL! I don't get the older women and young guy thing either even if he is of age. As a woman over 40, I think that it is gross when women my age ogle pictures of guys in their twenties and make lewd comments. Maybe it is because I have a son that is 20.
Posted by: kraken
LOL! I don't get the older women and young guy thing either even if he is of age. As a woman over 40, I think that it is gross when women my age ogle pictures of guys in their twenties and make lewd comments. Maybe it is because I have a son that is 20.
Posted by: Cheri at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (oiNtH)
267
I often thought if I hit the lottery and wanted to make the max yearly gift allowed of $14,400, I would divide it in two bc I just have no desire to involve the gov in my business even if I am doing nothing illegal. Now, that in and of itself is illegal?
I often thought if I hit the lottery and wanted to make the max yearly gift allowed of $14,400, I would divide it in two bc I just have no desire to involve the gov in my business even if I am doing nothing illegal. Now, that in and of itself is illegal?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)
269
But it's ok to marry a 13 year old if she's your cousin, right?
Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (/tuJf)
270
262 The War on Drugs is at fault.
It starts out as a war on drugs and then transforms into a war on freedom.
Posted by: eman at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (mR7Es)
Treating law enforcement as war creates more problem than it solves, IMHO.
It starts out as a war on drugs and then transforms into a war on freedom.
Posted by: eman at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (mR7Es)
Treating law enforcement as war creates more problem than it solves, IMHO.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (0mRoj)
271
Sandusky should be in a Pennsylvania State prison I think
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (8BJMp)
He's in the Greene State Prison in SW PA. In protective custody, because he is a target by other inmates. He doesn't have a cellmate and will not eat, exercise, etc. with the rest of the populations, which includes individuals on death row.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (8BJMp)
He's in the Greene State Prison in SW PA. In protective custody, because he is a target by other inmates. He doesn't have a cellmate and will not eat, exercise, etc. with the rest of the populations, which includes individuals on death row.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (6YRzC)
272
I know someone that went searching for their birth mother---sometimes adoption happens for very good reasons.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Hairy Pederast at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (qul7b)
274
Florida Schoolboard Implements Rule Prohibiting 'Transgender' Kids From Choosing The Bathroom They Want
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
If I were an aging rocker who needed some lib street cred publicity to promote my lastest tour (long after the latest hit songs were an attraction), I would so plan a tour around these cities/states so that I could boycott them.
Cuts down on the actual shows I'd have to do, and pumps up the sales in, say, San Francisco.
But I'm not an aging rocker so I'll follow through on my planned Florida vacation this year.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
If I were an aging rocker who needed some lib street cred publicity to promote my lastest tour (long after the latest hit songs were an attraction), I would so plan a tour around these cities/states so that I could boycott them.
Cuts down on the actual shows I'd have to do, and pumps up the sales in, say, San Francisco.
But I'm not an aging rocker so I'll follow through on my planned Florida vacation this year.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:09 PM (+CKpi)
275
227
Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (6YRzC)
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My aunt got married at 16 to a 22 yr old.
He died a couple of years ago, right after their Diamond Jubilee 60th.
But that was in another era and another country.
Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 03:59 PM (6YRzC)
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My aunt got married at 16 to a 22 yr old.
He died a couple of years ago, right after their Diamond Jubilee 60th.
But that was in another era and another country.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:09 PM (T/5A0)
276
Speaking of prosecutors out on a limb, is Trump gonna put Christie on his ticket? That should be OK if Trump's running as New Yorker.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2016 04:09 PM (hqZPQ)
277
268 Its OK for woman to ogle HS girls......
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Uh. No it isn't.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)
That's not what The Vagina Monologues taught me!
===
Uh. No it isn't.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (3ZtZW)
That's not what The Vagina Monologues taught me!
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 04:09 PM (0mRoj)
278
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:04
And then you talk to one.... Ewwwww, repetez-moi, ewwww..
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (zuTLp)
In many ways, this is the life story of hastert.
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 27, 2016 04:04
And then you talk to one.... Ewwwww, repetez-moi, ewwww..
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (zuTLp)
In many ways, this is the life story of hastert.
Posted by: Draki at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (F6/Mp)
279
The AoSHQ Morris Dancers will be performing, Sunday, May 1.
The AoSHQ Morris Dancers will be performing, Sunday, May 1.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (iQIUe)
280
A thousand blessings on sexual superstar Dennis Hastert.
Posted by: Mohammad at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (TJCSB)
281
Ha,Lolita is on TCM right now.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (B48dK)
282
There's "age of consent" and then there's "daddy with a shotgun and friends".
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:01 PM (Jcvz2)
But how many teenagers have fathers around anymore?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:01 PM (Jcvz2)
But how many teenagers have fathers around anymore?
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (vBeA5)
283
Now, that in and of itself is illegal?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (iQIUe)
If it can be shown that you are doing so to hide it from the government tax man....
This is what I was pointing out earlier, and someone upthread illustrated the absurdity of by asking if you are driving 34mph in a 35 zone, are you going to be arrested for attempting to avoid going over the speed limit?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (iQIUe)
If it can be shown that you are doing so to hide it from the government tax man....
This is what I was pointing out earlier, and someone upthread illustrated the absurdity of by asking if you are driving 34mph in a 35 zone, are you going to be arrested for attempting to avoid going over the speed limit?
Posted by: Jen the original at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (6YRzC)
284
I know a woman whose kid's life was ruined by this.
He was 17, she was 15, they were banging lawfully. He turned 18...
I don't know what the precipitating event was that brought it to law enforcement but he's on a sex offender registry for life and may have done time.
(I only heard the story once and it's not something I want to ask about).
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I think a lot of states passed "Romeo and Juliet" type laws because of this where they give a certain amount of years as a gap.
So if an 18 year old is having sex with a 15 year old, it's treated differently than a 40 year old and a 15 year old.
He was 17, she was 15, they were banging lawfully. He turned 18...
I don't know what the precipitating event was that brought it to law enforcement but he's on a sex offender registry for life and may have done time.
(I only heard the story once and it's not something I want to ask about).
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I think a lot of states passed "Romeo and Juliet" type laws because of this where they give a certain amount of years as a gap.
So if an 18 year old is having sex with a 15 year old, it's treated differently than a 40 year old and a 15 year old.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (sDOgQ)
285
But it's ok to marry a 13 year old if she's your cousin, right?
Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis
If it's not, it will be soon. You were just ahead of your time.
Posted by: Jerry Lee Lewis
If it's not, it will be soon. You were just ahead of your time.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (+CKpi)
Posted by: RioBravo at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (NUqwG)
287
Nood Cruz.
Posted by: steevy at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (B48dK)
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282 There's "age of consent" and then there's "daddy with a shotgun and friends".
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:01 PM (Jcvz2)
But how many teenagers have fathers around anymore?
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (vBeA5)
With rising rates of illegitimacy and divorce (70-80% woman initiated I might add) not enough.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:01 PM (Jcvz2)
But how many teenagers have fathers around anymore?
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:10 PM (vBeA5)
With rising rates of illegitimacy and divorce (70-80% woman initiated I might add) not enough.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (3ZtZW)
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"But it's ok to marry a 13 year old if she's your cousin, right? "
Only if you are the same sex.
"But it's ok to marry a 13 year old if she's your cousin, right? "
Only if you are the same sex.
Posted by: Some Dude at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (qul7b)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (/tuJf)
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289 Ha,Lolita is on TCM right now.
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Movie makes no sense in the Middle East.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (3ZtZW)
She's not a goat, so...
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Movie makes no sense in the Middle East.
Posted by: Bigby's Banjo Plucking Fingers at April 27, 2016 04:11 PM (3ZtZW)
She's not a goat, so...
Posted by: Insomniac at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (0mRoj)
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243 the age of consent may be under 18, but if you're over 18, and they aren't you're like as not going to be in serious trouble.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (WhYLb)
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most places have the "close enough rule" where if someone is 18+ and the other someone is within 2 years or something, it's OK. Because really a high school senior who just turned 18 banging his 17.5 year old GF isn't really child rape.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 27, 2016 04:02 PM (WhYLb)
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most places have the "close enough rule" where if someone is 18+ and the other someone is within 2 years or something, it's OK. Because really a high school senior who just turned 18 banging his 17.5 year old GF isn't really child rape.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 27, 2016 04:12 PM (0LHZx)
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But what OJ is in prison for was not a technicality, it was basically armed robbery.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (sDOgQ)
I can't even do that now.
*sniff*
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 03:26 PM (sDOgQ)
I can't even do that now.
*sniff*
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (Fmupd)
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Dude get something fresher. Go gargle some Summer's Eve if you need inspiration.
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (mcm0N)
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It's hard to gargle in a body cast.....
~sniff-sniff~
Posted by: Unfettered Power at April 27, 2016 03:56 PM (mcm0N)
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It's hard to gargle in a body cast.....
~sniff-sniff~
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 27, 2016 04:13 PM (HSmrB)
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262 The War on Drugs is at fault.
It starts out as a war on drugs and then transforms into a war on freedom.
Posted by: eman at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (mR7Es)
Treating law enforcement as war creates more problem than it solves, IMHO.
Posted by: Insomniac
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I loud "HEAR, HEAR!!!" to both of these comments.
It starts out as a war on drugs and then transforms into a war on freedom.
Posted by: eman at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (mR7Es)
Treating law enforcement as war creates more problem than it solves, IMHO.
Posted by: Insomniac
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I loud "HEAR, HEAR!!!" to both of these comments.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (+CKpi)
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>> Shocked to see that 16 is the typical age of consent in most
>> states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
Most of the world seems to be 16, in some cases that depends on the relative age of the outie and innie. Spain's 13, IIRC, so overseas study in Spain for the daughter is right out.
California and Florida are both 18, which means if you're going to buy your private island, you know where you should stay away from.
>> states. Only a half dozen or so are 18, rest are 17.
Most of the world seems to be 16, in some cases that depends on the relative age of the outie and innie. Spain's 13, IIRC, so overseas study in Spain for the daughter is right out.
California and Florida are both 18, which means if you're going to buy your private island, you know where you should stay away from.
Posted by: JEM at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (o+SC1)
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I think a lot of states passed "Romeo and Juliet" type laws because of this where they give a certain amount of years as a gap.
Oh that's an improvement.
Oh that's an improvement.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (1xUj/)
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I often thought if I hit the lottery and wanted to make the max yearly gift allowed of $14,400, I would divide it in two bc I just have no desire to involve the gov in my business even if I am doing nothing illegal. Now, that in and of itself is illegal?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (iQIUe)
Everything is illegal. Whether you are prosecuted for anything is up to the arbitrary and capricious choice of your government overlords.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM (iQIUe)
Everything is illegal. Whether you are prosecuted for anything is up to the arbitrary and capricious choice of your government overlords.
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (vBeA5)
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265---Grandmother used to say about the graveyard in her little hometown,"There were more people conceived there than buried there."
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM
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Right.
Nothing has changed! Why, it's always been this way!
People always had sex before marriage!
There were always illegitimate children!
Nothing has changed!
Except the numbers.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 04:08 PM
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Right.
Nothing has changed! Why, it's always been this way!
People always had sex before marriage!
There were always illegitimate children!
Nothing has changed!
Except the numbers.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (T/5A0)
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>> Because really a high school senior who just turned 18
>> banging his 17.5 year old GF isn't really child rape.
No, but it's probably on a chat site somewhere.
>> banging his 17.5 year old GF isn't really child rape.
No, but it's probably on a chat site somewhere.
Posted by: JEM at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (o+SC1)
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My point was, this tactic of charging him would have been used had it been Joe Blow if there was an audiotape of that exchange.
It wasn't invented for OJ Simpson, almost any prosecutor worth their salt would have at least tried that angle to add additional charges.
Hastert though was not par for the course. This sort of law fare for not properly disclosing the amount of your own money you took out of an account is unprecedented.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (sDOgQ)
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People get convicted everyday for armed robbery. Audio tape might not be available in most cases, but there are always witnesses. That's how they know an armed robbery took place. Unless you have the most unusual armed robber ever, the victims are not allowed to just walk away from their robber. They have to stay until the robber releases them, usually by the fact of the robber leaving.
It is very unusual for armed robbers to be simultaneously charged with kidnapping. The reason for that is simple: that's not what those laws are for and usually the prosecutors are not interested in getting a 33 year sentence for that crime.
Armed robbery is different from kidnapping. They are separate laws, each passed to deal with different crimes. But, technically, the armed robber can be double charged and prosecuted for both crimes.
It wasn't invented for OJ Simpson, almost any prosecutor worth their salt would have at least tried that angle to add additional charges.
Hastert though was not par for the course. This sort of law fare for not properly disclosing the amount of your own money you took out of an account is unprecedented.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:07 PM (sDOgQ)
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People get convicted everyday for armed robbery. Audio tape might not be available in most cases, but there are always witnesses. That's how they know an armed robbery took place. Unless you have the most unusual armed robber ever, the victims are not allowed to just walk away from their robber. They have to stay until the robber releases them, usually by the fact of the robber leaving.
It is very unusual for armed robbers to be simultaneously charged with kidnapping. The reason for that is simple: that's not what those laws are for and usually the prosecutors are not interested in getting a 33 year sentence for that crime.
Armed robbery is different from kidnapping. They are separate laws, each passed to deal with different crimes. But, technically, the armed robber can be double charged and prosecuted for both crimes.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 27, 2016 04:17 PM (R+30W)
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Everything is illegal. Whether you are prosecuted for anything is up to the arbitrary and capricious choice of your government overlords.
Posted by: The Political Hat
That's the problem and why we can't allow prosecutors to play games like this, even if the person "deserves it" for something else.
You could be charged with Patriot Act type treason for something like pirating a movie. All because a certain prosecutor has you in their crosshairs.
Posted by: The Political Hat
That's the problem and why we can't allow prosecutors to play games like this, even if the person "deserves it" for something else.
You could be charged with Patriot Act type treason for something like pirating a movie. All because a certain prosecutor has you in their crosshairs.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:18 PM (sDOgQ)
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Just stepped over to the new Cruz thread. Not enough acrimony and angst yet. Let it age for a while. Interesting that the comments are so far about poopie head Trump..
Posted by: kraken at April 27, 2016 04:20 PM (zuTLp)
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Most of the world seems to be 16, in some cases that depends on the relative age of the outie and innie. Spain's 13, IIRC, so overseas study in Spain for the daughter is right out.
California and Florida are both 18, which means if you're going to buy your private island, you know where you should stay away from.
Posted by: JEM at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (o+SC1)
Age of consent worldwide:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
Age of consent in North America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
In some Mexican state, the AoC is as low as 12 or "puberty"...
California and Florida are both 18, which means if you're going to buy your private island, you know where you should stay away from.
Posted by: JEM at April 27, 2016 04:14 PM (o+SC1)
Age of consent worldwide:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent
Age of consent in North America:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
In some Mexican state, the AoC is as low as 12 or "puberty"...
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (vBeA5)
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But how many teenagers have fathers around anymore?
Posted by: The Political Hat
I believe we've long ago passed the missing father stage and entered the missing parents stage.
Talk to any heath care professional or a REAL teacher and they will tell you they seldom meet parents of the "poor" anymore. Grandparents now. Unable and/or unwilling to get to involved.
Posted by: The Political Hat
I believe we've long ago passed the missing father stage and entered the missing parents stage.
Talk to any heath care professional or a REAL teacher and they will tell you they seldom meet parents of the "poor" anymore. Grandparents now. Unable and/or unwilling to get to involved.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 27, 2016 04:21 PM (+CKpi)
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the age of consent may be under 18, but if you're over 18, and they aren't you're like as not going to be in serious trouble.
There was a reason the old saying, "18 to 80, deaf, dumb, blind, crippled or crazy" stressed 18.
I'm of the era before Romeo & Juliette laws.
There was a reason the old saying, "18 to 80, deaf, dumb, blind, crippled or crazy" stressed 18.
I'm of the era before Romeo & Juliette laws.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2016 04:24 PM (Jcvz2)
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Yeah, I guess there is a legitimate interest of justice argument here and I don't like the way the judge was talking about crimes he was not convicted of. Buuuuuuuut my outrage reservoir is just about tapped out soooooo . . . .
The case of Julius Streicher is also interesting. He was hung at Nuremberg for bad mouthing the Jews. He never held a government position. He was a private citizen who published Der Sturmer, a racist periodical blaming Jews for all the troubles in the worlds. Although most top Nazis despised him as a crude vulgarian but he was best buds with Adolph, the big Adolph. So, just or not to hang him?
Adolph Eichmann's execution was also questionable largely on jurisdictional grounds. He was convicted of something, killing Jews, at a time when that was not a crime by a country, Israel, that did not exist at the time he was committing the acts he was hung for, and these acts did not occur geographically within the borders of what would become Israel.
I'm not going to lose any sleep about any of this but there are theoretical problems with justice in these cases.
The case of Julius Streicher is also interesting. He was hung at Nuremberg for bad mouthing the Jews. He never held a government position. He was a private citizen who published Der Sturmer, a racist periodical blaming Jews for all the troubles in the worlds. Although most top Nazis despised him as a crude vulgarian but he was best buds with Adolph, the big Adolph. So, just or not to hang him?
Adolph Eichmann's execution was also questionable largely on jurisdictional grounds. He was convicted of something, killing Jews, at a time when that was not a crime by a country, Israel, that did not exist at the time he was committing the acts he was hung for, and these acts did not occur geographically within the borders of what would become Israel.
I'm not going to lose any sleep about any of this but there are theoretical problems with justice in these cases.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:25 PM (Nwg0u)
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People get convicted everyday for armed robbery. Audio tape might not be available in most cases, but there are always witnesses. That's how they know an armed robbery took place. Unless you have the most unusual armed robber ever, the victims are not allowed to just walk away from their robber. They have to stay until the robber releases them, usually by the fact of the robber leaving.
It is very unusual for armed robbers to be simultaneously charged with kidnapping. The reason for that is simple: that's not what those laws are for and usually the prosecutors are not interested in getting a 33 year sentence for that crime.
Armed robbery is different from kidnapping. They are separate laws, each passed to deal with different crimes. But, technically, the armed robber can be double charged and prosecuted for both crimes.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
If someone points a gun and tells a cashier to clean out their register, it's armed robbery.
If they are then held in a room at gunpoint and held against their will with additional demands (like OJ did) that's more. It was also premeditated.
The plan was to hold this guy hostage until he got what he want, and he planned it with other people.
he was sentenced to 9-33 years. I think the charges and conviction were completely appropriate even if he hadn't killed his wife. OJ also lost his appeal.
It is very unusual for armed robbers to be simultaneously charged with kidnapping. The reason for that is simple: that's not what those laws are for and usually the prosecutors are not interested in getting a 33 year sentence for that crime.
Armed robbery is different from kidnapping. They are separate laws, each passed to deal with different crimes. But, technically, the armed robber can be double charged and prosecuted for both crimes.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
If someone points a gun and tells a cashier to clean out their register, it's armed robbery.
If they are then held in a room at gunpoint and held against their will with additional demands (like OJ did) that's more. It was also premeditated.
The plan was to hold this guy hostage until he got what he want, and he planned it with other people.
he was sentenced to 9-33 years. I think the charges and conviction were completely appropriate even if he hadn't killed his wife. OJ also lost his appeal.
Posted by: Bullpup at April 27, 2016 04:28 PM (sDOgQ)
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I have a picture of me with Dennis hastert in his office when i was 14. Shoukd i be mad he didn't try anything? Was it just because my dad was there?
Posted by: Shiggz at April 27, 2016 04:35 PM (F205E)
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At some point, they'll expand the law to criminalize making transactions
just below the phantom threshold to avoid being charged for the that.
First, it was illegal to cross the threshold without reporting.
Then, it was illegal to flirt with the threshold without reporting.
Soon it will be illegal to flirt with the threshold of flirting with the threshold without reporting.
The real goal is to do away with cash, altogether.
At some point, they'll expand the law to criminalize making transactions
just below the phantom threshold to avoid being charged for the that.
First, it was illegal to cross the threshold without reporting.
Then, it was illegal to flirt with the threshold without reporting.
Soon it will be illegal to flirt with the threshold of flirting with the threshold without reporting.
The real goal is to do away with cash, altogether.
Posted by: DFCtomm at April 27, 2016 04:36 PM (ddeZa)
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By the way and this hasn't been mentioned yet, but while your Bank has a duty to report transactions/cash withdraws in excess of $10,000.00 to the government, it is also permitted in its discretion to report transactions and cash withdraws under $10,000.00 to the government for investigation as "structuring." I don't think they have to tell you either.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (RfZaB)
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A giant green fireball streaked across the skies of Southern California Tuesday night.
http://goo.gl/WemBtH
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Aliens.
http://goo.gl/WemBtH
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Aliens.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 27, 2016 04:37 PM (iQIUe)
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Apropos of age of age of consent laws, while the age of consent for statutory rape purposes may be 16 in your jurisdiction (usually with a window of 2-4 years under a "Romeo and Juliet" exception), in many states you can still be charged with "corrupting the morals of a minor" if you fuck a sixteen year old (minor, under 18 years of age).
So you're just trading a felony for a misdemeanor.
So you're just trading a felony for a misdemeanor.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (RfZaB)
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Irony: Canckle's #TeamVaJayJay is whining about Cruz playing the "woman card"...
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 27, 2016 04:40 PM (vBeA5)
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It is very unusual for armed robbers to be simultaneously charged with kidnapping. The reason for that is simple:
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No asportation. Laws vary from state to state but most, perhaps all, require asportation, moving the victims from one place to another, for kidnapping. If you move a victim from a more safe place, say from behind the counter at a 7/11, to a less safe place, say the bathroom of aforesaid 7/11, it need not be far.
I once got a kidnapping conviction on an attempted rapist who moved the victim a few feet deeper into a pedestrian tunnel.
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No asportation. Laws vary from state to state but most, perhaps all, require asportation, moving the victims from one place to another, for kidnapping. If you move a victim from a more safe place, say from behind the counter at a 7/11, to a less safe place, say the bathroom of aforesaid 7/11, it need not be far.
I once got a kidnapping conviction on an attempted rapist who moved the victim a few feet deeper into a pedestrian tunnel.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:41 PM (Nwg0u)
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A giant green fireball streaked across the skies of Southern California Tuesday night.
http://goo.gl/WemBtH
========
Aliens.
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Bernie has called the mothership.
http://goo.gl/WemBtH
========
Aliens.
-
Bernie has called the mothership.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 27, 2016 04:42 PM (Nwg0u)
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Right.
Nothing has changed! Why, it's always been this way!
People always had sex before marriage!
There were always illegitimate children!
Nothing has changed!
Except the numbers.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (T/5A0)
The guvment does pay them not to get married now.
Nothing has changed! Why, it's always been this way!
People always had sex before marriage!
There were always illegitimate children!
Nothing has changed!
Except the numbers.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 27, 2016 04:15 PM (T/5A0)
The guvment does pay them not to get married now.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 27, 2016 04:55 PM (T78UI)
319
Get a ticket for doing 53 in a 55 zone, structuring your velocity to avoid a speeding ticket. Interesting theory of law.
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at April 27, 2016 05:04 PM (IbUUZ)
320
I had a male professor hit on me, once.
Awwwwkward.
I got the hell out of the situation, and went to find some girls.
Awwwwkward.
I got the hell out of the situation, and went to find some girls.
Posted by: Harun at April 27, 2016 05:04 PM (UBBWX)
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Ace's "Flair" reference (at the end of the post) reminded me of something about the film "Office Space" which has bothered me for years:
The film goes along, being funny funny funny, ha ha ha, for the entire time, up until the very last scene in the movie which was so wrongheadedly and ruinously scripted that it just about undoes and ruins everything that comes before it.
Throughout the film, there is a "side character" -- the mumbling fat guy who keep getting his stapler stolen and his office desk demoted to worse and worse locations -- who is in reality not a side character at all but instead the main character that most viewers identify with. That's one of the clever structural things about the film -- the guy whom the writers present as the lead character (the guy who screws Jennifer Aniiston) is actually a side character, even though we see things from his vantage point. But he is just our "fantasy self." Our real self is the mumbling fat guy who is endlessly wronged and yet never has the gumption to do anything about it.
As the result, it is crucial to the film's narrative that the fat guy be an extremely sympathetic character, because he is the true "everyman" that the film is about.
So anyway, fast forward to the final scene where the fat guy, having burned down the office and stolen all the money, is lounging on the tropical beach, he inexplicably and totally out-of-character suddenly starts acting like a total asshole to the Hispanic waitstaff, bossing them around and making unreasonable entitled demands.
As a result, the viewer thinks when seeing the final scene that the fat guy really was an asshole all along, and thus deserved his mistreatment.
But this message undermines the entire film, which is based around viewers identifying with the unfairly mistreated ignored fat everyman.
Anyway, if you ever watch the film again, TURN IT OFF BEFORE THE FINAL SCENE, and you'll see how much more satisfying the whole film is.
I rank this as one of the worst last scenes in cinematic history.
The film goes along, being funny funny funny, ha ha ha, for the entire time, up until the very last scene in the movie which was so wrongheadedly and ruinously scripted that it just about undoes and ruins everything that comes before it.
Throughout the film, there is a "side character" -- the mumbling fat guy who keep getting his stapler stolen and his office desk demoted to worse and worse locations -- who is in reality not a side character at all but instead the main character that most viewers identify with. That's one of the clever structural things about the film -- the guy whom the writers present as the lead character (the guy who screws Jennifer Aniiston) is actually a side character, even though we see things from his vantage point. But he is just our "fantasy self." Our real self is the mumbling fat guy who is endlessly wronged and yet never has the gumption to do anything about it.
As the result, it is crucial to the film's narrative that the fat guy be an extremely sympathetic character, because he is the true "everyman" that the film is about.
So anyway, fast forward to the final scene where the fat guy, having burned down the office and stolen all the money, is lounging on the tropical beach, he inexplicably and totally out-of-character suddenly starts acting like a total asshole to the Hispanic waitstaff, bossing them around and making unreasonable entitled demands.
As a result, the viewer thinks when seeing the final scene that the fat guy really was an asshole all along, and thus deserved his mistreatment.
But this message undermines the entire film, which is based around viewers identifying with the unfairly mistreated ignored fat everyman.
Anyway, if you ever watch the film again, TURN IT OFF BEFORE THE FINAL SCENE, and you'll see how much more satisfying the whole film is.
I rank this as one of the worst last scenes in cinematic history.
Posted by: zombie at April 27, 2016 05:04 PM (jBuUi)
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The structuring law was passed long before 9-11 and has nothing to do with the patriot act. It was passed as a tool to go after drug dealers.
It was passed as a tool to go after tax evaders. The drug dealer thing was just window dressing.
It was passed as a tool to go after tax evaders. The drug dealer thing was just window dressing.
Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2016 05:35 PM (XIXhw)
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By the way and this hasn't been mentioned yet, but while your Bank has a duty to report transactions/cash withdraws in excess of $10,000.00 to the government, it is also permitted in its discretion to report transactions and cash withdraws under $10,000.00 to the government for investigation as "structuring." I don't think they have to tell you either.
It's called a Suspicious Transaction Report, which they can file for any reason, and no, they do not have to tell you.
Realistically, the bank does not want to get the reputation of snitching on their customers, so you're going to get a STR if you say something stupid like "Oh, you have to report it if it's over ten grand? Okay, I'll do two at $7k" or they keep seeing you and the transaction is in the thousands but always under the limit.
By the way, all structuring requires is intent, so if you actually say something like "Okay, I'll do two at $7k" you've already broken the law and can do five years for it.
It's called a Suspicious Transaction Report, which they can file for any reason, and no, they do not have to tell you.
Realistically, the bank does not want to get the reputation of snitching on their customers, so you're going to get a STR if you say something stupid like "Oh, you have to report it if it's over ten grand? Okay, I'll do two at $7k" or they keep seeing you and the transaction is in the thousands but always under the limit.
By the way, all structuring requires is intent, so if you actually say something like "Okay, I'll do two at $7k" you've already broken the law and can do five years for it.
Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2016 05:40 PM (XIXhw)
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Oh, and in regard to transaction reporting: By statute the bank has to report cash transactions over $10k. But there are other, smaller reporting limits for different kinds of transactions which are not public and can be changed by the government on a whim. So just because your transaction is under $10k doesn't mean the government doesn't know about it.
Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2016 05:43 PM (XIXhw)
325
Back during the "Terror" phase of the French Revolution (which pioneered quite a few "Progressive" ideas that are still with us today) what Ace is talking about re "structuring" was called "Suspicion of Suspiciousness" and would get you a quick trip to the guillotine.
Government never really changes, does it ?
Government never really changes, does it ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 27, 2016 07:28 PM (gUoN4)
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"But, officer, I was doing 49 in a 50 zone."
"Exactly. You were trying to avoid us. Here's your summons."
Cuba has a similar FutureCrime"law"; we think you're going to do something we don't like so Goodbye and Gulag.
But Barky got his selfie with Che, so, cool.
"Exactly. You were trying to avoid us. Here's your summons."
Cuba has a similar FutureCrime"law"; we think you're going to do something we don't like so Goodbye and Gulag.
But Barky got his selfie with Che, so, cool.
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Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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