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Food Thread: The South--Holding Out On Us Since 1865 [CBD]
Y-not: Our host, CBD, asked me to pinch-hit for him and finish the thread that he'd started for today as he is... indisposed.
"I'm not exactly sure, but I think dog is melting..." pic.twitter.com/tlFHII7rZ0
— Animal Life (@MeetAnimals) May 1, 2016
Red Onion Jezebel with Pan-Roasted Chicken Thighs. The key to this recipe is Jezebel sauce, a type of Southern relish traditionally featuring apple jelly and pineapple preserves flavored with horseradish and mustard. The version featured in this Garden & Gun recipe is made from mustard, horseradish, marmalade, sorghum, and lemon juice. According to this source, "Queen Jezebel was often labeled the Old Testement's [sic] sumptuous, proverbial wicked, painted woman. Apparently, the name of "Jezebel" is attached to this sauce because it is delicious, spicy, sumptuous, and potentially powerful."
I don't know what inspired CBD to choose Southern cooking as this week's topic -- perhaps it was the upcoming Kentucky Derby and the foods associated with this amazing event. High on that list of notable Derby weekend treats is the Mint Julep, a simple drink featuring bourbon and minted simple syrup. That brings us to CBD's next topic:
1:1 ratio of sugar to hot water.
Stir.
Refrigerate."
The recipe for whoopie pies has its origins with the Amish, and in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania, it is not uncommon to find roadside farm stands offering these desserts. Amish cooking is about old recipes that have fed families for generations, with no trendy or cross-cultural fusions or mixtures. These cake-like whoopie pies were considered a special treat because they were originally made from leftover batter. According to Amish legend, when children would find these treats in their lunch bags, they would shout "Whoopie!"In keeping with the Southern theme, here's a Whoopie Pie recipe that incorporates bourbon.
Fried pies have long been a spiritual savior, proof that pleasure can be coaxed from hard times. Stamped from an inexpensive alchemy of fat, flour, and fruit, they were traditionally pulled from vats of rendering lard during pig-butchering parties or cooked up with dried apples or peaches when the pantry was getting low. "If I have any money," Georgia bluesman Curley Weaver sang in his 1934 recording "Fried Pie Blues," "I will buy me some."
CBD's thread topic got me thinking about what we consider to be quintessential Southern foods (and cooking techniques). Fried chicken is probably at or near the top of many of our lists. Here's a brief history of this heavenly dish's popularity in the U.S.:
The Scots, and later Scottish immigrants to the southern United States, had a tradition of deep frying chicken in fat as far back as the middle ages, unlike their English counterparts who baked or boiled chicken. When it was introduced to the American South, fried chicken became a common staple. Later, Africans brought over on the slave trade, became cooks in many southern households and incorporated seasonings and spices that were absent in traditional Scottish cuisine, enriching the flavor. Since fried chicken traveled well in hot weather before refrigeration was commonplace, it gained further favor. In the south, Fried chicken continues to be among this region's top choices for "Sunday dinner." Holidays such as Independence Day and other gatherings often feature this dish as well.A bit more from The Art of Scottish-American Cooking:
One of my favorite recipes in this book is Scotch Fried Chicken. You'll enjoy letting your friends know that one of the "great Scottish contributions to the American cuisine is fried chicken." As documented in their travel books, in 1773 on the Isle of Skye, Dr. Johnson and James Boswell "were served fried pullets" (a young chicken which we seldom killed in SC during my childhood since they would eventually become hens). Immigrants to the Carolinas from Skye carried this recipe with them. I still recall my mother's Sunday fried chicken as a boy growing up in Mullins, South Carolina, and I now know that my ancestors came up the Cape Fear River from the Isle of Jura to settle in what is now Bladen County, North Carolina. Jura was not that far from the Isle of Skye.Try as I might, I didn't find a Scottish fried chicken recipe. To make amends, there are several "Tartan Day" recipes at this link. Speaking of fried chicken, a bird cooked without bones (or frankly, ANYTHING without bones) is an abomination. If you're interested in reading more about Southern foods, you might enjoy this Southern Food Primer courtesy of the Southern Foodways Alliance.
To wrap things up, how about a recipe for Kentucky Burgoo, this one from Hunter, Angler, Cook: Kentucky Burgoo Serves 6 to 10. Prep Time: 30 minutes Cook Time: 3 hours, or more if your game is old and tough 3 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 to 2 squirrels or rabbits, cut into serving pieces
2 to 3 pounds venison, cut into large pieces (3 to 4 inches wide)
3 to 5 pheasant legs/thighs (bone-in)
1 green pepper, chopped
1 large onion, chopped
2 carrots, chopped
2 celery ribs, chopped
5 garlic cloves, chopped
1 quart pheasant or chicken stock
1 quart beef or game stock
1 28-ounce can crushed tomatoes
2 large potatoes
1 bag of frozen corn (about a pound)
1 bag of frozen lima beans (about 14 ounces) or canned black-eyed peas
Salt and pepper
1/4 cup Worcestershire sauce
Tabasco or other hot sauce on the side
__________ Pour the oil into a large Dutch oven or soup pot and set the heat to medium-high. Working in batches, brown all the meats. Do not crowd the pan or the meat will not brown well. Salt the meat as it cooks. As they brown, move the various meats to a bowl.
Add the onions, carrots, celery and green pepper to the pot and turn the heat to high. Cook the vegetables until they are well browned; you might need to add a little more oil to the pot. When the vegetables have browned, add the garlic and cook for 1 minute. Add back the meats, along with the chicken and beef broths and the tomatoes. Stir to combine and add salt to taste. Bring to a simmer, cover, reduce the heat and simmer gently for 2 hours.
Fish out the meat pieces. Strip the pheasant and squirrel off the bone. Tear the large pieces of venison into bite-sized pieces. The reason you did not do this right at the start is because venison will stay moister when it cooks in larger pieces. Return all the meat to the pot and return the stew to simmer.
Peel and cut the potatoes into chunks about the same size as the meat pieces. Add them to the stew and simmer until they are tender. Add the Worcestershire sauce, mix well and taste for salt. Add more Worcestershire sauce to taste if needed.
Finally, add the corn and lima beans. Mix well and cook for at least 10 minutes, or longer if you'd like. Serve with cornbread and a bottle of hot sauce on the side.
What's cookin' in YOUR kitchens this week?
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 03:47 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 03:47 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 03:50 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: RTW at May 01, 2016 03:51 PM (3frOv)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 03:51 PM (vvmPQ)
Queen's Three.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 03:52 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2016 03:52 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 03:53 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: B. H. Obama at May 01, 2016 03:54 PM (sdi6R)
1:1 ratio of sugar to hot water.
Stir.
Refrigerate.
Add a little Everclear or vodka and it will last longer without any taste change.
Posted by: Aviator at May 01, 2016 03:54 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 03:54 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 03:55 PM (kTF2Z)
Are we trying to get fucked-up at breakfast?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 03:56 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: USA at May 01, 2016 03:56 PM (tfM+W)
Posted by: eman at May 01, 2016 03:57 PM (MQEz6)
If you feel you need to wait that long, who am I to judge.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 03:57 PM (ptqRm)
Nothing says nasty like a skinned tree rat. Give me a rabbit any day.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 01, 2016 03:58 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 03:58 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 03:58 PM (PFZvJ)
Well, call me a religious sort and let's be done with that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 03:59 PM (9ym/8)
Stiletto Cocktail
1 1/2 oz bourbon
1 oz amaretto
1oz fresh lime juice
Shake with ice. Strain into glass. Enjoy. you can add a lime twist if you wish.
Stupidly easy to make and delicious.
A favorite with the ladies.
Posted by: naturalfake at May 01, 2016 03:59 PM (0cMkb)
choices for "Sunday dinner." Holidays such as Independence Day and other
gatherings often feature this dish as well.
In the old days Sunday dinner was the big dinner of the week and most of the time it was the only meal that had meat unless you were on a farm and had just slaughtered a hog. But everyone had chickens even if they roosted under the house.
But that was in the days when the South was still firmly rested in poverty. Now people like fried chicken any day of the week. But I have found it is far easier to go down to Yogi Bear, Bojangles, or Zaxby's. Then you don't have a big mess to clean up.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 03:59 PM (vvmPQ)
Grab a cast iron skillet and get it heating with fat of your choice.
Grab a pack of bone in/skin on chicken thighs.
Debone the thighs with kitchen shears. Leave on the skin for the love of everything holy! Then pat em dry
Salt both sides and add your favorite chicken seasoning to meat side only.
Then put them skin side down in the hot skillet at fry away for 8 minutes or so. Flip em over and let the meat side cook for another few minutes and then cool on a wire wrack.
Voila. Crispy chicken with no breading.
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:00 PM (3y414)
Flour
Water
Patience
Posted by: Jimmy don\'t play that at May 01, 2016 04:00 PM (F5OyJ)
Posted by: Clarney at May 01, 2016 04:01 PM (G9iXC)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
Well, the only thing I use simple syrup in is cocktails. So sure.
Posted by: Aviator at May 01, 2016 04:02 PM (c7vUv)
Oh, I'm with you.
I never drink before Sunday morning service.
Well, usually not.
er....
not too often.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 04:02 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:02 PM (9ym/8)
5 dollar sugar water such a crazy price,
People so lazy makes a grown man cry,
Just gonna eat fried cherry pie.
Posted by: Warrant at May 01, 2016 04:03 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 04:04 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:04 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:04 PM (3y414)
Breakfast: Biscuits and cream gravy.
Lunch: Black eyed peas, ham hock & collard greens. Corn bread.
Supper: Fried Chicken with anything.
Posted by: USA at May 01, 2016 04:06 PM (tfM+W)
I like poinsettia cocktails for brunch.
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:04 PM (3y414)
I thought the poinsettia was poison??
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:07 PM (vvmPQ)
But I have found it is far easier to go down to Yogi Bear, Bojangles, or
Zaxby's. Then you don't have a big mess to clean up.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 03:59 PM (vvmPQ)
Hey, what about Popeyes? That's who the Bo guys stole their recipe from, I know cause I use to hunt with them. All dead now.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 01, 2016 04:07 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 01, 2016 04:07 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:07 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Clarney at May 01, 2016 04:08 PM (G9iXC)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 04:08 PM (ptqRm)
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I like poinsettia cocktails for brunch.
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:04 PM (3y414)
I thought the poinsettia was poison??
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:07 PM (vvmPQ)
Never bothers me.
Posted by: Lucifer Cruz at May 01, 2016 04:09 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:09 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 04:09 PM (ptqRm)
Mix for crumbs: (reserving ½ cup for topping)
2/3 cup brown sugar
1 Tablespoon solid shortening
1 cup flour
Filling:
1 cup molasses (good and thick)
¾ cup boiling water
1 egg beaten
1 Teaspoon baking soda
Combine soda with boiling water, then add egg and syrup. Add crumb mixture (this will be lumpy). Pour into unbaked pie crust and cover with reserved crumbs. Bake at 375 degrees Fahrenheit for 10 minutes, then reduce heat to 350 degrees Fahrenheit and bake for an additional 35-45 minutes (until firm). When cut into, the bottom may be "wet." This is okay, and is called a "wet bottom shoo fly pie."
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 04:10 PM (PFZvJ)
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:00 PM
What happens if you don't debone the thigh? I'm lazy.
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 01, 2016 04:10 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:10 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 01, 2016 04:07 PM (jJRIy)
We don't have a Popeyes here. But that Yogi Bear place has the best fried chicken in town. There is always a crowd there.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:10 PM (vvmPQ)
Oh it doesn't have any actual poinsettia
It's
1/4cup vodka
1/4 cup Champagne
1/2 cup cranberry juice
Crushed ice
2 strips orange zest, each about 1/4-inch wide and 2 inches long
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:10 PM (3y414)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 04:11 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 04:11 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:11 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 04:11 PM (PFZvJ)
My ex-father-in-law, who is 101, still fries up chicken legs in a
cast-iron skillet most everyday. Or, he'll go to Kentucky Fried. And
he likes pancakes. And pie. He loves pie.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:09 PM (CFc5L)
We do have a KFC here, but it is the worst chicken place in town.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:11 PM (vvmPQ)
I am in Pie Heaven here in Kentucky.
It's a shame I'm trying to cut back on my calories... Gotta do a lot of exercise to earn a slice of pie.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 04:12 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 01, 2016 03:59 PM (0cMkb)
Thanks Nate! I am gonna make me sum of that....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 01, 2016 04:12 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 04:12 PM (V+03K)
What happens if you don't debone the thigh? I'm lazy."
I've never tried but I imagine you'd just need to cook longer on the meat side.
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:12 PM (3y414)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 04:13 PM (PFZvJ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 04:13 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:13 PM (vvmPQ)
Um....
The Bottom of the molasses filling , inside the crust.
It's wet.
Dry type, is when you cook it long enough that the bottom completely cooks.
The entire filling is more cakelike, and less moist.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 04:13 PM (ptqRm)
We do have a KFC here, but it is the worst chicken place in town.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:11 PM (vvmPQ)
He's loyal to a place.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:14 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 04:14 PM (PFZvJ)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 04:11
Love chow-chow, especially on melba toast. But you know everything is good on a Ritz.
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 01, 2016 04:14 PM (Dhht7)
Ain't nothing like a nice CFS, smothered. Mashed taters smothered. But I will verge and say green beans are my preferred. Gotta have a roll biscuit.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:15 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 04:15 PM (jR7Wy)
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Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:10 PM (3y414)
Ah, kinda like mock apple pie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:13 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:15 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:07 PM (vvmPQ)<<<
Hemlock cocktail... that's the way to go.
Posted by: zombie Dr. Kevorkian at May 01, 2016 04:16 PM (H9MG5)
If you're really lazy, go the Gary Larson route..
http://wp.me/a1dEMV-4MD
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 04:16 PM (ptqRm)
Kentucky's gotta be the place for pies, I'm bettin'.
Do you think you like living in Kentucky better than in Utah?
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:17 PM (CFc5L)
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I'll be cooking this this week. Bought the ingredients a couple of days ago.
https://t.co/qARb8zP8hH
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 04:17 PM (SEXy3)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:17 PM (vvmPQ)
Breakfast: Biscuits and cream gravy.
Lunch: Black eyed peas, ham hock & collard greens. Corn bread.
Supper: Fried Chicken with anything.
Posted by: USA at May 01, 2016 04:06 PM (tfM+W)
Oh goodness yes. If the greens are cooked properly. Badly done greens are heinous.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 01, 2016 04:18 PM (0mRoj)
Chicken fried steak, cream gravy, mashed taters, green beans, and biscuits.
And iced tea.
Fvck.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 04:18 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:17 PM (vvmPQ)
You're hungry? It's not even 1:30 here.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:19 PM (CFc5L)
I drove dad to town today because he wanted a DQ hamburger. So we do it. Dinner's a way off but it is appetizing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:20 PM (9ym/8)
Anyone tried glenncairn glasses and did they make a difference?
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 04:21 PM (V+03K)
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I just enjoyed a bowl full of orange sections, blueberries, and strawberries that was almost too pretty to eat.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 04:21 PM (SEXy3)
KFC is okay (better than Popeye's anyway) but I don't think the KFC people have gotten an order right in a couple of years now. How damn hard is it to keep 10 pieces of chicken straight? The wife said she wanted three breasts (and paid for them), then when we got home, the entire order was backs and thighs. She called the place back and they said they were "training" new people.
Does that mean hire the functionally retarded and set them loose?
Posted by: pep at May 01, 2016 04:21 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Hell I Was There at May 01, 2016 04:21 PM (gwG9s)
I won't lie, I miss the majesty of Utah's mountains, the alpine flora & fauna, and the weather, which I found to be nigh on perfect.
But Kentucky is agreeing with me very well. Culturally, it's closer to what I'm accustomed to (since I'm not LDS). The people are welcoming and there is a lot of explore. I think b/c it's sort of a crossroads type of state there's a lot of diversity. We're planning on spending some time doing day trips this summer to see how many counties we can hit.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 04:21 PM (t5zYU)
And iced tea.
Fvck."
Also known as Heaven.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:22 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 01, 2016 04:22 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 04:23 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:19 PM (CFc5L)"
Washington has gotta suck.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:23 PM (9ym/8)
I drove dad to town today because he wanted a DQ hamburger. So we do it. Dinner's a way off but it is appetizing.
***
I'm hooked on DQ's buffalo chicken wrap. There's absolutely nothing to it so I purchased the ingredients to make them myself.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 04:24 PM (SEXy3)
I haven't tried that but I've seen recipes using almond flour that look really good. Another thing I know people use to add crunch is ground pork rinds. I like using the skin to make skin on cracklings just because it's simple, but
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:24 PM (3y414)
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:24 PM (3y414)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:23 PM (9ym/
I worked and lived in Bremerton Washington for a short time back in the mid 70s. It did suck bad. It is the only State that I have ever lived in that I hated.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:26 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 01, 2016 04:08 PM (ptqRm)
I think we've got a love match.
Except, I don't shoo the flies.
Posted by: Sandy Fluke at May 01, 2016 04:27 PM (oU3Bb)
But Kentucky is agreeing with me very well. Culturally, it's closer to what I'm accustomed to (since I'm not LDS). The people are welcoming and there is a lot of explore. I think b/c it's sort of a crossroads type of state there's a lot of diversity. We're planning on spending some time doing day trips this summer to see how many counties we can hit.
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If you haven't done so yet, drive the Daniel Boone Parkway all the way into the east. I did it a while back, in the Winter, and everything was bare and there were 30' icicles hanging almost directly above me, but t was a cool trip. Start early. There are parts where you'll find yourself in the middle of nowhere, which I wouldn't care to do at night.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 04:27 PM (SEXy3)
Except, I don't shoo the flies.
Posted by: Sandy Fluke"
Uh-oh, looks like we got us a Love Connection. Right here on this very blog.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:29 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 04:27 PM (SEXy3)
I drove down from Chicago to Georgia in the early 70s at night. It was so foggy in the smokey mountains someone had to get out of the car and walk in front to follow the road. Will never do that again.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:30 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:34 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:23 PM (9ym/
I worked and lived in Bremerton Washington for a short time back in the mid 70s. It did suck bad. It is the only State that I have ever lived in that I hated.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:26 PM (vvmPQ)
Well!
I live closer to Portland than Seattle. And I avoid both places. It rains and then rains some more. When it is sunny it is breathtaking.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:34 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:36 PM (CFc5L)
If you're in the Louisville area, they have some great restaurants.
Give Milkwood with it's weird Korean/Southern cooking smash-up a try.
Or if you're in Eastern Kentucky- try their idiosyncratic Lamb BBQ with the black sauce.
Strange yet larrupin'
Posted by: naturalfake at May 01, 2016 04:36 PM (oU3Bb)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 04:37 PM (PFZvJ)
Can't take the spice at Popeye's and the KFC is terrible. The best commercial fried chicken here is from Roy Rogers. It really is good. And our local RR is very well run.
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 04:38 PM (V+03K)
I spent a week in Bothell / Seattle back in '92 on a work retreat. I them took a week vacation, hopped on a puddlejumper to Port Angeles, and spent a wonderful week with Grampa at the A-Frame cabin he built from the trees on his proprty.
My only complaint? It never rained once while I was there.
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 04:38 PM (AfOTL)
Posted by: naturalfake at May 01, 2016 04:38 PM (oU3Bb)
And iced tea.
Fvck."
Also known as Heaven.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:22 PM (9ym/
I made that for my (not yet) husband, in post war Kuwait. It cost almost 150 bucks for the steak, green beans, corn and potatoes, because war-torn country. But I got a great husband out of it, so best 150 bucks I ever spent.
Posted by: Moki at May 01, 2016 04:39 PM (ezHMO)
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Oh, no. That would freak me out, but when you're on a mountain road, it's not like there's a safe spot to pull over and sleep it out around every corner.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 04:39 PM (SEXy3)
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 04:38 PM (AfOTL)
OOoh, that was the week back in '92 when it didn't rain.
They're still talking about it.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:40 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: Bones Maroney at May 01, 2016 04:40 PM (SnzFk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:43 PM (9ym/8)
Oh and Vic, I've read that Lewis and Clark weren't too fond of Washington and its weather either. Hated it, in fact.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:36 PM (CFc5L)
My transportation was a motorcycle. We had sun only one day that I was there between October and March. All of the rest it rained or sleeted. And the people in Bremerton were even more stand-offish than those in the North East.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:43 PM (vvmPQ)
I made that for my (not yet) husband, in post war Kuwait. It cost almost 150 bucks for the steak, green beans, corn and potatoes, because war-torn country. But I got a great husband out of it, so best 150 bucks I ever spent."
Make it again. Ain't no finer dinner.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:44 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Lauren at May 01, 2016 04:46 PM (3y414)
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Best fast food chicken here is Church's. It is always fresh, hot, and juicy, and they have crinkle fries, too.
The best fried chicken overall is from Beach Road Chicken. They've been in business for more than 75 years and are in the same location on Atlantic Blvd which, when they opened, was the only road to the beach and was a dirt road.
It's pretty cool because they have had WWII veterans return to Jax and seek them out so that their grandchildren can eat there as well.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 04:47 PM (SEXy3)
Posted by: washrivergal
Yep, never seen the color green until you've seen it in the Washington state area. Fall is pretty spectacular too.
Posted by: AmeriDan at May 01, 2016 04:47 PM (cq3QL)
Working on my third batch trying to perfect my process. My attempts thus far definitely remind me of bacon, but they're not quite there. I think I need more smoke.
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 01, 2016 04:47 PM (VSenK)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:44 PM (9ym/
He only gets it occasionally now, after a quad by pass. Because I made it a lot early on. We have to be "healthier" now. But I'm not going to say he can never have it, because that's just wrong. I don't like those diet scolds who scream that you can't eat yummy food because it's "death on a plate."
Posted by: Moki at May 01, 2016 04:48 PM (ezHMO)
Oh, I will most definitely do that! I love lamb.
Tried to get into that fusion place during a long weekend in Louisville, but it was booked. Sounds cool.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 04:49 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:51 PM (9ym/8)
My transportation was a motorcycle. We had sun only one day that I was there between October and March. All of the rest it rained or sleeted. And the people in Bremerton were even more stand-offish than those in the North East.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 04:43 PM (vvmPQ)
I've only been to Bremerton once and that was when the we took the kids to see the USS Missouri docked there. Can't remember the people much, cuz it was rainin' , dashing in and out of places, you know.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 04:51 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
Vic and I discussed the people of Bremerton, on one early morning thread many moons ago, and I agree completely with his assessment.
Posted by: AmeriDan at May 01, 2016 04:51 PM (cq3QL)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 04:53 PM (wYRTH)
Southern food is awesome, and varies so much across the states.
I had the pleasure of eating weeks of (SC) Low Country food recently, and was even lucky enough to get in on that small window of soft-shelled blue crabs in Charleston. Such a delight.
I even brought back a nice bag of grits.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 04:53 PM (qCMvj)
I missed that. So?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:53 PM (9ym/8)
OOoh, that was the week back in '92 when it didn't rain.
They're still talking about it.
Posted by: washrivergal
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Ha!
I just wanted the whole Washington experience. Grey, drizzling 20 hours per day, etc.
But we stayed busy and had a blast. I didn't want to leave...
Back to food - I was supposed to grill/smoke a pork tenderloin that has been marinating in a homemade hoisin, rice wine vinegar, ginger, garlic & hot pepper mix.
But the bottom fell out, and we got rain. A lot of it. Again.
Oh well - it can marinate another night.
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 04:54 PM (AfOTL)
Posted by: Clarney at May 01, 2016 04:54 PM (G9iXC)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 04:57 PM (+eR2D)
If I wasn't 150 miles away I'd invite myself over.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:57 PM (9ym/8)
This is neat. This actually crossed my mind the past week or so as I was emptying my pantry for this and that. I have so many relishes and condiments and compotes, and small bottles of sauces, including chow-chow and some fondue sauces. I have been using them in new and creative ways. As added flavor in and on just about anything. Including some soups and stir fries, and of course on melted cheeses or other appetizers, and sauces to add just that touch.
I then I forget what I did days later, cussing at myself for not writing it down.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 04:57 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Abby Coffey at May 01, 2016 04:59 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 04:57 PM (9ym/
You'd be more than welcome! This will be the first time I've ever made them, but how bad can they be?
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:01 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 05:02 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
Nothing much to it. Just describing our experiences while in the Navy and being stationed there.
Locals not liking the Navy, which happens to be the very foundation of their economy and livelihood, yet they despise the "furriners" invading their town. Renting houses and spending many in their town.
How dare us inject cold hard cash into the local economy. Bet they're singing a different tune in this time of reduced defense spending.
Posted by: AmeriDan at May 01, 2016 05:04 PM (cq3QL)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2016 05:05 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 05:06 PM (V+03K)
I'm sure you knocked them outta the park. That new Ford doing okay?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:07 PM (9ym/8)
One meat that tastes best without a bone is venison.
I take great care after shooting a deer to gut the thing and pack the cavity with ice. Cooling it and keeping it cold is VERY important.
Anymore, I take my deer to a butcher and have him bone it. The marrow is extremely pungent and definitely will flavor the meat.
I.m convinced that this is the reason for the "gamy" complaint.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 05:07 PM (P/8aq)
Nice link, thanks.
The African Connection
African traditions have had the most impact on the flavors and the methods of Southern cookery.
Indigenous Spices are key to many of the flavors too. My brother and SIL recently returned from S. Africa with glass vials of spices that were so sensuous to the nose.
I'm not vigilant about getting fresh spices, nor grinding my own from nutmegs etc but I wish I had the sources and the energy and the time to do so. It makes a difference.
I do grow my fresh herbs tho. Big difference with those as well.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:07 PM (qCMvj)
Agreed on the Callender's Pot Pies. The only microwaveable meal that I actually look forward to.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2016 05:05 PM (2cS/G)
They are much better cooked in the oven.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 05:08 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: Cora "#trigglypuff" Segal at May 01, 2016 05:08 PM (OF/aZ)
I'm sure you knocked them outta the park. That new Ford doing okay?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:07 PM (9ym/
We went with the Dodge and so far, so good. I don't think he has any complaints at all.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:08 PM (+eR2D)
That's interesting, irongrampa. Thanks for that tip.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 05:09 PM (t5zYU)
Just my 2 cents.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 05:07 PM (P/8aq)
Interesting. Not the 2 cents part, the de-boned venison.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 05:10 PM (CFc5L)
grinding my own from nutmegs etc but I wish I had the sources and the
energy and the time to do so. It makes a difference.
I do grow my fresh herbs tho. Big difference with those as well.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:07 PM (qCMvj)
I "grind" my own nutmeg (basically use a microplane to scrape what I need from the nuts at the time of use. The difference between fresh nutmeg and ground in a jar is astounding.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:10 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2016 05:10 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 05:10 PM (t5zYU)
I thought ya'll bought the Ford? What model/engine?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:11 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 04:57 PM
Heh. I do this all the time. Alcohol may or may not have been involved. Can't remember. Go figure.
Posted by: olddog in mo at May 01, 2016 05:12 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:10 PM (+eR2D)
Also interesting. Is it hard to find nutmeg "nuts"? I don't think I've ever come across them or looked for that matter.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 05:13 PM (CFc5L)
Tonight, leftover oven-fried chicken and some corn on the cob.
Hubby came home Friday late, and I needed to prepare something for him to snack on when he came in. I fussed over various recipes and went with one he loves. I made 5 pounds of chicken pieces, so we are eating that for a few days. It's nice. We can relax.
I made this Roasted Sweet Potato Salad With Maple Syrup, Green Onions and Pecans recipe for the side, but now it's all gone (I halved the recipe).
http://bit.ly/26InBaO
It was easy to make, and light and refreshing. You'll want to tweak some ingredients to your liking if you ever choose to make it. I added more Maple Syrup
and a few more Pecans.
And, then I made a batch of Chocolate Chip Cookie batter, and have been making a few cookies here and there, keeping the dough refrigerated instead of freezing dough balls.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:14 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Plum Duff (formerly lurker_above) at May 01, 2016 05:16 PM (d88w/)
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 01, 2016 05:16 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 01, 2016 05:16 PM (0O7c5)
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I've never looked for nutmeg there, so it may or may not be there, but I've found that buying spices from the ethnic aisle at the store yields spices of equal or better quality at a lower price. The Hispanic foods section, in particular, is good for this.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 01, 2016 05:17 PM (SEXy3)
PG, my yard needs mowing and you didn't show up two years ago.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:19 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 05:19 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:10 PM (+eR2D)
I had good intentions, I bought the whole nutmeg... I'll have to do it eventually. haha
You've convinced me to just put in the effort.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:20 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:11 PM (9ym/
Ford dealer just couldn't close the deal. Dodge was able to. Um...it's the 1500 Quad Cab 6 cylinder...I don't know the engine specs exactly though. Oh and it's not 4x4.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:20 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:19 PM (9ym/
oh man....i love to mow ......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 01, 2016 05:21 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 05:13 PM (CFc5L)
I buy mine online from The Spice House. They're cheap and last almost forever. Actually, I highly recommend buying all sorts of spices from there, they have great customer service and the prices are right.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:21 PM (+eR2D)
We's eatin' fancy 'round here.
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 05:22 PM (rRHdN)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:22 PM (+eR2D)
I know you do. I got more shit to mow than you can shake your bootie at.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:23 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 05:13 PM (CFc5L)
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I got a bottle of them at Kroger --- in the regular spice section. But that was a few years ago and I haven't looked recently.
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at May 01, 2016 05:24 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 05:25 PM (rRHdN)
I think we'll all agree that Bremerton can go to hell.
With that, I have to to mow my lawn.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 05:25 PM (CFc5L)
You've convinced me to just put in the effort.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:20 PM (qCMvj)
It really is worth it. Most recipes that call for nutmeg don't call for a lot of it, so it's easy to grate exactly the amount you need at that time. I just recommend to grate it over a ramekin or cutting board, not over the food you want it in. That's how I lost two entire nutmegs in a pumpkin pie one year...
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:25 PM (+eR2D)
I have a list of recipes I looked up this week to make given what's in the house fridge and pantry.
One of the recipes is:
Zucchini Pancakes with Tzatziki Sauce
http://enthusiasts.ciachef.edu/zucchini-pancakes-with-tzatziki-sauce/
The recipe I flagged was from The Culinary Institute of America's Vegetables cookbook - this one linked above just says CIA, but this one is different, and I like the changes (less scallions, and pine nuts versus walnuts are two examples..). So, I'll probably print this one and make this one instead.
Speaking of Southern:
Another recipe I flagged to make, with my new grits, is called Funeral Grits, to make as a side dish. It's simple, and spicy hot. From Bon Appetit, Y'all by Virginia Willis. It has the cheese, eggs, but also cayenne pepper, a jalapeno chopped up and green onions. A nice simple side dish with a bit of bite. Nothing fancy.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:27 PM (qCMvj)
recommendation. I was wondering what alternatives there were to
moonbatty Penzey's. I decided I would never order from them after I
received the catalog decrying voter ID.
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 05:25 PM (rRHdN)
Emmie, The Spice House is owned by Bill Penzey Jr's sister and husband. They have a lot of the exact spice blends as Penzey's (they claim to be the original, Penzey Jr broke off and opened his own spice co after the parents died, I believe). For instance, Fox Point Penzeys is the same as Lake Shore Drive seasoning at Spice House. They are a wee bit cheaper too and no moonbattery.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:28 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 05:13 PM
Not really. Depending on where you live, shops like Savory Spice, World Market, Penzey's, etc. will usually have them, and they're easily found on the 'Net.
They are often given as good luck charms to bridal couples, as an old European belief was that as long as there is a whole nutmeg in the kitchen, the marriage will also be sound. Of course, whole nutmegs must be replenished in order to keep one whole at all times.
Mace is the tendril-like lining over the nutmeg, inside the shell. When fresh, it is a beautiful red color.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 01, 2016 05:28 PM (OF/aZ)
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 05:29 PM (rRHdN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:29 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:25 PM (+eR2D)
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Heh. Dropping them in eggnog was my specialty.
But I do what you suggest now, grate it over a saucer or whatever, THEN add it.
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at May 01, 2016 05:30 PM (T/5A0)
I'll take mine with mashed taters and chicken gravy and green beans cooked with bacon.
Posted by: teej at May 01, 2016 05:31 PM (0RM+L)
BTW, the sumac we get from Spice House is top notch. We're using it in our Middle Eastern recipes and even just sprinkled in dishes like some people use paprika. I love it on a sautéed spinach and rice mixture.
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 05:32 PM (V+03K)
Nah - a Spice Grater runs right through them.
Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2016 05:34 PM (842Ha)
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 05:29 PM (rRHdN)
A regular microplane does the trick just dandy.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:34 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: BernieCruz2016 at May 01, 2016 05:34 PM (VvacN)
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 05:29 PM (rRHdN)
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I just use a regular cheese grater.
Now, when the nut gets small, it gets kinda hard to grate as hard as you need to. I've used pliers for this --- better (and safer) grip.
Posted by: Margarita who wishes she drank more at May 01, 2016 05:35 PM (T/5A0)
I'm doing a repeat of a Yagyu steak in a bit, rubbed with their garlic/onion/scallion mix (great on the table, too) and bourbon barrelwood-smoked pepper. Was big hit last week, cooked on a pellet grill, which I'm becoming quite fond of.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 01, 2016 05:35 PM (OF/aZ)
about the V-6. I had a 2010 with the 4.7l. No sqeuaks or rattles. Ran
like sumbitch.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:29 PM (9ym/
Yeah, he really loves it and it gets great gas mileage too for a truck.
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:35 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:35 PM (9ym/8)
We's eatin' fancy 'round here.
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 05:22 PM (rRHdN)
sounds delicious!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:36 PM (qCMvj)
It really is worth it. Most recipes that call for nutmeg don't call for a lot of it, so it's easy to grate exactly the amount you need at that time. I just recommend to grate it over a ramekin or cutting board, not over the food you want it in. That's how I lost two entire nutmegs in a pumpkin pie one year...
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 05:25 PM (+eR2D)
heh. Okay, thanks.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:37 PM (qCMvj)
remember to tell CBD to pencil in an All Jello Mold food thread for 2017, the 500th Anniversary of the 95 Theses getting pounded on a cathedral door.
Also maybe some regional German food.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 05:37 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:39 PM (9ym/8)
1:1 ratio of sugar to hot water.
Stir.
Refrigerate.
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any southern morons pipe up to say That Ain't Right?
OK imma look
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 05:40 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:44 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 05:45 PM (Cq0oW)
remember to tell CBD to pencil in an All Jello Mold food thread for 2017, the 500th Anniversary of the 95 Theses getting pounded on a cathedral door.
Also maybe some regional German food.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 05:37 PM (Cq0oW)
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All kidding aside, it would be nifty to have a Midwestern cooking thread -- Teutonic, Nordic, Czech, et al. And of course beer pairings. My favorite pairing is beer + food.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 05:46 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:46 PM (9ym/8)
Also maybe some regional German food.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 05:37 PM (Cq0oW)
I bought a couple of "church supper" or church sponsored cookbooks recently. Food for an army of people. I was curious.
One was from the south, with half the book discussing the history of the area, and showing old plantations, etc, while the other half was recipes. Fun to read.
The other, I believe was from Taste of Home? Not sure, and too lazy to go look. Some of the recipes in both sounded interesting, some used quick ingredients like boxed cake or other short-cuts that I wouldn't normally have around. But, some really good comfort food in both, too.
As far the German suggestion, that would be great. I rearranged my cookbooks recently into cuisines (including a Southern section!), and I only have ONE stand alone German cookbook (The Frugal Gourmet Immigrants and my other Global type cookbooks have some individual recipes), but only one specific to German food.
The book I have was first published back in the 60's, but it's still in print. I haven't had it that long so cannot vouch for it, but it has decent reviews.
The German Cookbook: A Complete Guide to Mastering Authentic German Cooking
by Mimi Sheraton
http://amzn.com/0394401387
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:48 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 01, 2016 05:49 PM (vFAuB)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 05:46 PM (jR7Wy)
nice idea
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:51 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 01, 2016 05:53 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 05:55 PM (Cq0oW)
This is not to say sucrose, regular sugar is good, far from it -- it's all bad metabolically, but this is evidence that the HFCS crap may indeed be worse. There's always been that suspicion, but nothing concrete.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at May 01, 2016 05:56 PM (DW+jj)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 01, 2016 05:57 PM (vFAuB)
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*recalls The Charleston Cookbook*
For some reason, I think it was sold by The Junior League, but do not recall for sure.
It certainly is/was one of the most ubiquitous 'southern' cookbooks.
Ha! Just checked Amazon and found a copy. It actually is/was published by the Junior League.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zpzotkn
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2016 06:01 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 01, 2016 06:02 PM (CAKDm)
Posted by: JTB at May 01, 2016 06:02 PM (V+03K)
Posted by: Kalneva at May 01, 2016 06:03 PM (vFAuB)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 05:44 PM (9ym/
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How much time ya got?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 06:03 PM (kTF2Z)
But it's weird, it comes with a post-it: "do not use in the women's restroom." Uh, okay... ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2016 06:04 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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*!*
*hey!, I can do something with that story line*
Posted by: John Grisham at May 01, 2016 06:06 PM (Z58Xa)
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Before you call your lawyer, take her to Charleston for shrimp and grits. I liked the boxed gravel well enough, but this dish was a revelation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:08 PM (jR7Wy)
Just don't make it a murder mystery. The husband is always the prime suspect.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 01, 2016 06:10 PM (CAKDm)
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 01, 2016 06:10 PM (jJRIy)
http://www.midwestliving.com/food/comfort/must-try-midwest-foods/?page=5
Trigger warning: it contains the abomination known as Cincinnati-style chili.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:13 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
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Take her on a road trip?
Seriously, what some people pass off for "soul food" sometimes is a disgrace.
Nothing beats a pot of collards done right, with a turkey chop or ox tails with hominy & lima beans.
And homemade peach cobbler. Damn, no I'm hungry...
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 06:14 PM (AfOTL)
There is an abomination of a restaurant in Nashville called Demos'. Avoid at all costs. They don't have sweet tea. If you order sweet tea, these assholes bring simple syrup to the table with your incompletely made tea.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:15 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at May 01, 2016 05:10 PM (t5zYU)
When I used to get mail order grassfed beef, the place used (US Wellness Meats) also had cut bones for marrow, and tallow and stuff like that, so I did the marrow a few times. It's supposed to very good for you, and yes, very tasty. For some reason I haven't ordered in a while.
I think I just seasoned them and roasted them in the toaster oven until they were browned.
Posted by: stace at May 01, 2016 06:15 PM (ozZau)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:15 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:15 PM (GUBah)
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The hipster thing to do would be to prepare it at your table for you and discuss artisanal syrups.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:17 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2016 06:19 PM (EZebt)
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I've made that proper and not.
the not was vaguely interesting because I was lazy. it was a dump cake made in the crockpot. here is the whole of it
can o peaches w syrup
box o yella cake mix
stick o butter chopped up
bag o crunched pecans
all in that order
crockpot low for 3 hours or so
any good? no but ice cream makes it work.
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 06:19 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 06:20 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 06:20 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 06:20 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen
Hell, you got any advice on dating a Connecticut Yankee? One of my buddies is trying to hook me up with his SIL.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:20 PM (GUBah)
I've got a t-shirt I bought in Myrtle Beach - it says "A Little Bit Yankee, A Little Bit Y'All".
Posted by: antisocialist at May 01, 2016 06:21 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: freaked at May 01, 2016 06:21 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 06:22 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: freaked at May 01, 2016 06:21 PM (BO/km)
Getcha some Popeye's. That stuff is manna.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:22 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 01, 2016 06:23 PM (CAKDm)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 06:22 PM (kTF2Z)
Southern sweet tea is, well, TOO sweet for me. Kid #3 manages a Smithfield's Chicken and BBQ, and she told me how much sugar they put in their sweet tea. Almost syrupy. Almost makes your teeth crack.
Posted by: antisocialist at May 01, 2016 06:24 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:24 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 06:24 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Clarney at May 01, 2016 06:24 PM (G9iXC)
Ya wanna go fuck some people up, let's go do it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 06:20 PM (9ym/
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Let's do it! As long as you don't put beans in your chili that is.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 06:24 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: freaked at May 01, 2016 06:25 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 06:25 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: antisocialist at May 01, 2016 06:26 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: stace at May 01, 2016 06:26 PM (ozZau)
Posted by: Billy Bob T at May 01, 2016 06:27 PM (8HiDF)
Be prepared to work your butt off around the house. "Taking it easy" is not in their vocabulary.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 01, 2016 06:27 PM (CAKDm)
Rounds in the mag. Got a sumbitch I need to take of. I'll hellp out with yours.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 06:28 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Still Banned at May 01, 2016 06:28 PM (cEvZ8)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 06:24 PM (kTF2Z)
Uh oh.
Posted by: stace at May 01, 2016 06:28 PM (ozZau)
Bottled simple syrup is a huge scam. Simple syrup is great to sweeten cold ice tea with.
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:28 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 01, 2016 06:27 PM (CAKDm)
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:28 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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Forget it. He'll try to feed you 'barbecue' made with cow.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2016 06:29 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2016 06:29 PM (ntObR)
Is she a real Yankee or just another suburbanite?
Posted by: fluffy at May 01, 2016 06:31 PM (2hcmo)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 06:32 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2016 06:29 PM (ntObR)
I thought it was a little too salty, but then again my palate runs weird that way. I like their shrimp PoBoy, though.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:32 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: freaked at May 01, 2016 06:32 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Still Banned at May 01, 2016 06:32 PM (cEvZ8)
Posted by: fluffy at May 01, 2016 06:31 PM (2hcmo)
Hell if know! All I know is she's hot, the last kid is about to graduate HS, and she wants to move here.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 06:33 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:34 PM (jR7Wy)
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i get that. its just not tea any longer is all
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 06:34 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 06:35 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 06:35 PM (9ym/8)
Warm biscuits with butter and jam in the morning with a side of ham and red eye gravy.
YUM.
A fruit spread without the seeds is for sissies.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 01, 2016 06:38 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 01, 2016 06:23 PM (CAKDm)
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Send her to boot camp. That is where I first encountered grits and greens.
But really, aren't Yankee and Southern cuisines offshoots of British cuisine, except one is edible?
Weren't we discussing on another thread the Scots' habit of frying foods, whence Southern, and the Brits' love of boiling shit to death, whence New England?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:39 PM (jR7Wy)
Long bows vs Crossbows
Chili w/o beans vs beans
BBQ pork vs beef
Sweet tea vs unsweetened tea
Glocks vs everything else
What else am I missing? (Ducks)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:40 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:41 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 06:41 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:41 PM (xVgrA)
Now I drink two cups of coffee in the morning, followed by 8 fo of apple juice, and then water for the rest of the day.
Unless it is a rocking chair day of course.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 01, 2016 06:42 PM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:42 PM (xVgrA)
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ceptin New England is a lot of baking, sure
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 06:43 PM (Cq0oW)
I'll tell you how they were when I get back
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 06:43 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:45 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:49 PM (xVgrA)
One of the really great memories is coming home from school on baking day, and smelling the fresh baked bread all the way down the driveway.
Then slicing the heel off a loaf and slathering fresh butter on it.
Taste good enough to bring tears.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 06:49 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:50 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 06:53 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 06:53 PM (Cq0oW)
Should be fine since you aren't burning them.
Posted by: lindafell de spair
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Heh. Do they still make asbestos apons?
If so, I know what to get him for Christmas.
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 06:54 PM (AfOTL)
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 06:54 PM (rRHdN)
Could we get a camera thread next weekend? I like the looks of the new Pentax K-S2.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2016 06:54 PM (ntObR)
Dirty rice and blackened catfish is good eating.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 06:35 PM (P/8aq)
Mmmm! RightlySouthern made dirty rice for us at a Morondezvous. We ate well that day.
Posted by: Emmie at May 01, 2016 06:57 PM (rRHdN)
Posted by: qdpsteve
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You know where my Moron mind went with that?
Yes, a camera threads is a good idea - what do you say, 'ettes?
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 06:57 PM (AfOTL)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 06:57 PM (wYRTH)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 01, 2016 06:58 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 07:00 PM (PFZvJ)
Posted by: fluffy at May 01, 2016 07:04 PM (2hcmo)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 06:53 PM (e3bId)
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How does it taste liquefied in a blender?
Posted by: Toothless Geezer at May 01, 2016 07:07 PM (/f6Nd)
Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 01, 2016 07:15 PM (pZEKq)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 06:53 PM (e3bId)
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How does it taste liquefied in a blender?
Posted by: Toothless Geezer at May 01, 2016 07:07 PM (/f6Nd)
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Well I can't say for sure, but I'm guessing red beansy and ricy and sausagey.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 07:18 PM (e3bId)
Looks bad...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 07:19 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 07:20 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
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Forget it. He'll try to feed you 'barbecue' made with cow.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2016 06:29 PM (Z58Xa)
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We're both Texans, so beef is king. Where did you say you were from, mister?
*Does Clint Eastwood squinty eyes*
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 07:21 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 07:23 PM (iQIUe)
Dammit, that's what she likes--- that rhubarb crap! Yet she won't eat collards! It's like being married to a (admittedly hot) Martian.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 01, 2016 07:23 PM (CAKDm)
Horrible.
https://goo.gl/ZUoxB9
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 07:20 PM (iQIUe)
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The chapel I was married in was about 150 years old. It burned recently, to the ground, very quickly.
So Sad.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 07:24 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 06:53 PM (e3bId)
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How do you keep the rice from falling through the grill?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2016 07:25 PM (kTF2Z)
So Sad.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 07:24 PM (e3bId)
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Someone said people were trapped inside. If so, no way have they survived.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 07:29 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 07:29 PM (P/8aq)
Hell, how do you keep the red beans from falling through the grill?
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 07:31 PM (PFZvJ)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 07:32 PM (PFZvJ)
Lots of paper is a pretty good way to set old dry lacquer pews on fire really quick I'd guess.
Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2016 07:32 PM (DL2i+)
http://tinyurl.com/hh3kmpl
Scanner link:
http://www.broadcastify.com /listen/feed/8535
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 07:34 PM (GUBah)
Long bows
Chili w/o beans
BBQ pork vs beef
Sweet tea vs unsweetened tea
What else am I missing? (Ducks)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 06:40 PMThe obvious common-sense losers have been struck through.Beef, particularly brisket, is king. Pork will do.I'm an unsweet guy, but am tolerant of diversity.You forgot Mary Anne vs. Ginger and Betty vs. Veronica.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 01, 2016 07:35 PM (OF/aZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 01, 2016 07:37 PM (ntObR)
Like: The Lost San Saba Mine (Spanish gold!). Or the story about Mexican soldiers stuffing a cannon with gold and throwing it in the Neches River during a chase in 1836.
That's two out of hundreds. To pursue, start with books by J. Frank Dobie, Like "Coronado's Children".
Posted by: Meremortal at May 01, 2016 07:37 PM (3myMJ)
Aluminum foil.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 07:29 PM (P/8aq)
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286 How do you keep the rice from falling through the grill?
Hell, how do you keep the red beans from falling through the grill?
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 07:31 PM (PFZvJ)
Among his other talents, IG is psychic.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 07:38 PM (GUBah)
Got a birthday coming soon, and we're going to try a new steakhouse name of Texas Roadhouse.
Anyone know something about them?
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 07:39 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 07:40 PM (iQIUe)
TR is pretty good fare, as long as you like meat.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 01, 2016 07:42 PM (3myMJ)
Is there STILL anyone who can't figure out who's side this administration is on?
http://www.incubatoday.com/news/article72936267.html
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 07:42 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at May 01, 2016 07:35 PM (OF/aZ)
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AR-15 vs. Mini-14.
Eastern North Carolina vs. Western North Carolina BBQ.
Dentu-Grip vs. Polydent.
Posted by: Toothless Geezer at May 01, 2016 07:42 PM (/f6Nd)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 07:43 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 07:43 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 07:39 PM (P/8aq)
Take earplugs, sometimes the music is too loud. Also, you may have delays in service if the waitresses are doing a lot of line dancing. Food's decent, though.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 07:43 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 07:43 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Toothless Geezer at May 01, 2016 07:42 PM (/f6Nd)
Fixed
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 07:45 PM (GUBah)
It's absolutely amazing. I knew he was going to be trouble, but Obama has exceeded expectations.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 01, 2016 07:46 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose
At my age, Mrs Howell is looking pretty good.
Well, if I was still living with the moral standards of a fleet sailor.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 01, 2016 07:47 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 07:47 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: Ruger at May 01, 2016 07:48 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2016 07:49 PM (Z58Xa)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2016 07:49 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 01, 2016 07:51 PM (Z58Xa)
3 lb fresh greens, turnip, collard, mustard, combination
1-1/2 lb salt pork, rind removed, cut into 1" dice
1-1/2 cups water
1 cup coarsely chopped onions
1 teaspoon sugar
Salt
Freshly ground black pepper
Trim greens and strip leaves from stems. Wash several times. In a heavy stock pot, fry the salt pork til crisp brown. Add water to pot, then greens, adding more as they wilt. Stir in onions and sugar. Cook over moderate heat about 45 min. or until done.
It's the salt pork, people. Nothing better.
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 07:58 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 08:00 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose
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Bailey.
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 08:03 PM (AfOTL)
fresh mint in the bottom of the cocktail shaker
add ice
per serving add
2 shots good vodka from the freezer
1 tsp/1 tbls simple syrup
shake well and pour into glass/es via fine mesh strainer.
drink, repeat
tips: amount of mint is to taste; MOAR mint, Moar bite. Simple syrup is the same, and add AFTER the vodka or it'll freeze to the ice.
strainer is necessary, unless you enjoy various size bits of mint in your mouth.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 01, 2016 08:04 PM (WhYLb)
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 08:04 PM (PFZvJ)
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose
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Bailey.
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 08:03 PM (AfOTL
Jeannie.
Posted by: Golfman at May 01, 2016 08:05 PM (6Eacz)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 08:07 PM (P/8aq)
Good night horde
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2016 08:08 PM (PFZvJ)
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 08:09 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 08:09 PM (wYRTH)
Posted by: Rondo Hatton at May 01, 2016 08:12 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 01, 2016 07:47 PM
After a 6 month deployment, with no liberty ports, even Lena would look good. <wry grin>
I'm not sure if #trigglypuff could qualify given the moral standards of a fleet sailor, except for snipes and sonar techs, of whom the less said, the better.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Geek at May 01, 2016 08:15 PM (OF/aZ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2016 08:16 PM (voOPb)
the chill keeps the aromatics from volatilizing, denying you the nose, and the chill also effects the taste buds.
just a couple spoonfulls of good, not chlorinated, room temperature water is all whisky needs.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 01, 2016 08:17 PM (WhYLb)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 08:17 PM (wYRTH)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 08:20 PM (wYRTH)
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Hemingway used to line up shooters in his freezer and they'd form a thin film of ice atop which would crack as you tossed em.
fkn alkies though
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 08:20 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 01, 2016 08:17 PM (WhYLb)
Mmmmm....warm single malt scotch.. I'm retarded...I actually warm the glass.
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 08:20 PM (aRUb8)
If anyone is interested in the recipe, here it is. I followed it exactly, used 93% lean ground beef. I did check the gravy and season with a little salt and pepper, because it needed it. I used beef stock too instead of the boullion granules.
http://www.tasteofsouthern.com/salisbury-steak-recipe/
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 08:22 PM (+eR2D)
Then try this--brandy snifter filled with crushed ice, dribble gin into it 'til it's full.
3 of those will carry you through an evening and into unconsciousness.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 08:25 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: Clarney at May 01, 2016 06:24 PM (G9iXC)
Also live in the land of whoopie pies.
Hoover's, by chance?
Posted by: LochLomondFarms at May 01, 2016 08:27 PM (J6oxK)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 08:28 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at May 01, 2016 08:31 PM (Cq0oW)
I will draw the line at warm beer, though.
That's just nasty.
Maybe try the cuke with the gin, although I like my liquor straight.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 08:33 PM (P/8aq)
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There is such a thing as "good Scotch?"
Huh. Learn something new every day...
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 08:35 PM (AfOTL)
Poke sallet: pick poke stems around 2-4" long. Rinse. Put this into salted boiling water for a few minutes. Drain and rinse. Cover with fresh water and bring to a boil. Boil a few minutes. Drain again. Heat bacon drippings in the skillet. Saute some onions a minute. Add the drained poke and give a stir until heated through then add one or two beaten eggs and cook until done.
Sprinkle with salt and vinegar.
That's poke sallet!
Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at May 01, 2016 08:35 PM (ovJ4P)
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 08:37 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 gigawatt Sanity Prod at May 01, 2016 08:39 PM (+eR2D)
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 08:39 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: awkward davies at May 01, 2016 08:40 PM (7Awbj)
Then try this--brandy snifter filled with crushed ice, dribble gin into it 'til it's full.
3 of those will carry you through an evening and into unconsciousness.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 08:25 PM (P/8aq)
MMmmmmm.....ginz...mmmmm.
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 08:43 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: CrustyB at May 01, 2016 08:45 PM (Hnglq)
Posted by: CrustyB at May 01, 2016 08:45 PM (Hnglq)
That good?
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 08:49 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 08:51 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 08:55 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2016 08:59 PM (k4M/B)
I'll bet they're starting then, Chicago west burbs here.
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:00 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: CaliGirl at May 01, 2016 09:01 PM (egOGm)
Mmmmm....warm single malt scotch.. I'm retarded...I actually warm the glass.
Posted by: Mimzey
Put it in the microwave.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2016 09:01 PM (k4M/B)
Waymon Blundell, a paratrooper who jumped into both Normandy and Eindhoven and spent over 2 years behind enemy lines passed away this weekend at 94 years of age.
A google search on his name will turn up a couple nice stories that'll hit ya' right in the feelz.
I don't have any Buds (his preferred hops) in the fridge, but I've lifted a couple of my own for him.
Rest easy, Waymon. We've got it from here.
Posted by: Oedipus at May 01, 2016 09:03 PM (CXLVd)
I haven't kept up on it but I thought I read someone was finally able to grow them. I always liked the idea that no one really knew where they would grow from year to year and finding your own patch was kinda cool.
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:05 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:08 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 09:08 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2016 09:01 PM (k4M/B)
Cha-yaaaaa! Used to put the glass on the old, gas pilot lite range. Right in the middle of the 4 burners....leave it there for a while. Ahhhh...the good 'ol days...
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 09:10 PM (aRUb8)
Remember the spot, they repeat well, and taste (to me) much better than domestic ones.
Great in stew, or with a beef roast.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 09:11 PM (P/8aq)
If one gets lucky while trout fishing, that fellow might stumble on a leek bed this time of year.
Remember the spot, they repeat well, and taste (to me) much better than domestic ones.
Great in stew, or with a beef roast.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 09:11 PM (P/8aq)
I agree. May is the month up here in Northern Wisconsin...in the hardwoods. Gotta hunt a bit, but worth it.
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 09:13 PM (aRUb8)
316 313 298 You forgot Mary Anne vs. Ginger and Betty vs. Veronica.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose
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Bailey.
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 08:03 PM (AfOTL
Jeannie.
Posted by: Golfman at May 01, 2016 08:05 PM (6Eacz)
Kaylee
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2016 09:14 PM (o98Jz)
Nice. I have to make a point of doing some fishing this year, been a few since.
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:17 PM (qmou8)
Mix it up then refrigerate. After it's solid and sliceable, slice it up and fry the pieces.
I've tried to make it but somehow I never get the solidifying correct and when I go to fry it, it's got too much liquid and won't fry properly.
It's not just in the South either that you find it but I'm pretty sure it originated there.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at May 01, 2016 09:17 PM (Xo1Rt)
Good scotch needs just a tablespoon of water, or a single cube of ice. And a nice cigar, the tip dipped in port.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2016 09:23 PM (QDVFm)
I was born in Indiana, where one of the great local delicacies is a pork tenderloin sandwich. That is cooked without bones, so I can't really agree that meat must have bones in it during cooking.
Also, here in Colorado, where I live now, steak without bones in it is generally preferred over bone-in steak. I mean, if you have a choice between a 12-oz strip steak, or a 14-oz t-bone that include four ounces of bone, and they're roughly the same price, which is the better deal for your money?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 01, 2016 09:24 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2016 09:24 PM (Q7bO0)
Final April Totals for Chiraq:
Shot & Killed: 33
Shot & Wounded: 277
Total Shot: 310
Total Homicides: 37
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 09:25 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ALH at May 01, 2016 09:26 PM (Z56vq)
Cook it a few minutes longer, put it in a small cake pan, let it cool thoroughly on the counter top, and THEN refrigerate--overnite is good.
Fried in butter, either savory--eggs over easy come to mind--or sweet--maple syrup is great .
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 09:26 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 01, 2016 09:28 PM (dBmVV)
Shot Killed: 33
Shot Wounded: 277
Total Shot: 310
Total Homicides: 37
I still think the shot to kill ratio is way too far apart. Subsidized Range Time might not be so bad an idea.
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:32 PM (qmou8)
Ah, well. You live and you learn. You take the good, you take the bad; you take them both and there you have the facts of life. The facts of life.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 01, 2016 09:33 PM (0OG8D)
I don't know if I'd eat one of those from around here, though my buddy keeps tempting me. There are so many, everyone on this planet could have some burgoo.
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:41 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 01, 2016 09:42 PM (0OG8D)
that burgoo. I could still set a trap on my balcony to catch squirrels
if I felt like it, but deer and pheasants don't really run around in my
neighborhood.
Road Trip!
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:43 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 09:44 PM (GUBah)
To say that this is a step-by-step recipe is an understatement. I'm thinking ChemJeff kind of instructions.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 09:46 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 01, 2016 09:50 PM (0OG8D)
I think we're mumbling to ourselves now.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 09:54 PM (CFc5L)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 09:56 PM (CFc5L)
"accidentally" hit one of them, and then get one of those retroactive
roadkill licenses they have here in Colorado...
You would have more meat than you could eat around Estes, no?
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 09:56 PM (qmou8)
By WTHR Channel 13
INDIANAPOLIS -
A well-known local political blogger was found dead early Sunday morning in an apparent suicide.
Gary Welsh, the man behind the conservative blog "Advance Indiana," was found in the 400 block of Park Avenue with a gunshot wound. IMPD confirmed they are investigating the case as "a tragic suicide."
Welsh's final blog post was on Friday about a new poll on the GOP candidates in Indiana's presidential primary. That post included a troubling line that said, "If I'm not around to see the vote results, my prediction is that Trump wins Indiana with just shy of 50% of the vote, but he will carry every single congressional district and sweep the delegate race..."
He was also a practicing attorney.
The coroner is expected to officially rule on cause of death Monday.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2016 09:57 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 09:57 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 01, 2016 09:23 PM (QDVFm)
Clearly, you have studied the issue at length.
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 09:58 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 10:00 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 10:00 PM (ghfOx)
Posted by: lindafell de spair at May 01, 2016 10:01 PM (xVgrA)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 10:02 PM (qmou8)
#377: Actually, I live in Lakewood. And I've seen elk in Golden.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 01, 2016 10:03 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 10:05 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 10:07 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 10:02 PM (qmou
That was my dog. I'm not sure what she ate, but I might have to break out the gas mask.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 10:09 PM (GUBah)
We still doing this thing?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 10:05 PM (9ym/
Yes. There doesn't seem to be anything else to do.
Posted by: creeper at May 01, 2016 10:09 PM (ghfOx)
https://youtu.be/CcAHzadjxSI
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at May 01, 2016 10:13 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 10:15 PM (qmou8)
Posted by: washrivergal at May 01, 2016 10:17 PM (CFc5L)
I agree...I ate some about 30 years ago while living in the forest and working...I had no p[problem. My friend got sick...but he was drinking alcohol.
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 10:20 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 10:15 PM (qmou
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 10:20 PM (aRUb
Oops.
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 10:23 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 10:26 PM (wYRTH)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 10:26 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: dartist at May 01, 2016 10:27 PM (qmou8)
So the chili cinnamon fudge I made this afternoon turned out well.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 10:26 PM (wYRTH)
Mmmmmmm...
Posted by: Mimzey at May 01, 2016 10:31 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: PaleRider at May 01, 2016 10:32 PM (wYRTH)
Shot & Killed: 33
Shot & Wounded: 277
Total Shot: 310
Total Homicides: 37
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 09:25 PM (iQIUe)
They really need to improve their aim
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 01, 2016 10:33 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: PaleRider
---------------
Grilled over Hobo coals & kerosene?
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 10:44 PM (AfOTL)
http://www.tasteofsouthern.com/
Check out how straightforward and thorough the instructions are!
Posted by: Steck at May 01, 2016 10:48 PM (ht/89)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 01, 2016 10:51 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 01, 2016 10:54 PM (g4zfM)
Isn't that just called masa? Or is it not the same stuff?
Posted by: Chi at May 01, 2016 10:57 PM (AfOTL)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 01, 2016 10:51 PM (39g3+)
Sounds great!
I often throw food at my face and then *snap* at it as it flys by. I don't know why it tastes so good that way... I suspect it has to do with raw animal instincts. My girlfriend growls when I eat like that. It just seems natural to me.
Posted by: Thorac the Hill Dweller at May 01, 2016 10:58 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:00 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:01 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:08 PM (uAvJJ)
Alton Brown has a really, really good beans and rice recipe I've used a few times. Never been able to make the pickled pork he wants but it works well with other sausage:
http://tinyurl.com/obn9fwn
The pickled pork sounds really, really good though.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 01, 2016 11:08 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: derit at May 01, 2016 11:09 PM (OC+TJ)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2016 11:09 PM (hlMPp)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at May 01, 2016 10:54 PM (g4zfM)
Sounds like the kind of place I may like.
Posted by: Dashing Urbanite at May 01, 2016 11:09 PM (aRUb8)
I bet they let their kids play outside without constant supervision!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 01, 2016 11:10 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: derit at May 01, 2016 11:12 PM (OC+TJ)
Scanner link: http://www.broadcastify.com /listen/feed/220
Posted by: Country Singer at May 01, 2016 11:12 PM (GUBah)
The last post was 3 in the afternoon, do you know where your kids have been?
Posted by: derit at May 01, 2016 11:12 PM (OC+TJ)
Don't worry about the kids....I've got them handled.
Posted by: Harry Reid at May 01, 2016 11:13 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: derit at May 01, 2016 11:15 PM (OC+TJ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 01, 2016 11:15 PM (voOPb)
folks who buy Steve's Ice Cream are so monumentally, mindbogglingly
stupid that they need to be reminded to keep their ice cream in the
freezer. Or, the Steve's Ice Cream people think that its customers are
knuckle-dragging, booger-eating retards. Either way, I am not pleased."
CBD, admonitions like that used to bother me too. I mean, do irons really need a label saying "Do not iron clothes while wearing them."? Surely no one is that stupid???!?!
Until I saw a story back in the 90s about a well known major league pitcher who missed the All-Star game because he did exactly that for a pre-game presser, and by the time the game started he had developed blisters bad enough he couldn't pitch.......
Sadly, there really are people who are that stupid.... but they never seem to have trouble finding lawyers and juries who will hand out fat checks because "no one TOLD me not to do that!!!!eleventy!!"
"It's time to thin the herd." -- Culls-the-Monkey, Crinos Ahroun werewolf from White Wolf Games....
Posted by: SDN at May 01, 2016 11:16 PM (1m6Tv)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at May 01, 2016 11:16 PM (IH3+v)
Just had blueberry blackberry cobbler with a splash of heavy cream 'cause Washington. And a splash of amaretto 'cause just oiled the deck and need to medicate.
Yearly deck maintenance also 'cause Washington.
Spring is here early but we needed it. Another record winter of n straight days of rain.
Posted by: Igotnothing at May 01, 2016 11:17 PM (FQJsJ)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 01, 2016 11:17 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:19 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 01, 2016 11:19 PM (kP16F)
grilled pork chops
baked potatoes
potato salad
and then ice cream
so it was a lot of carbs
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:20 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: TickledPink at May 01, 2016 11:20 PM (F5hTl)
Posted by: Jean at May 01, 2016 11:21 PM (cXiMR)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 01, 2016 11:21 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 01, 2016 11:24 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at May 01, 2016 11:26 PM (bIGOo)
Shot & Killed: 33
Shot & Wounded: 277
Total Shot: 310
Total Homicides: 37
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at May 01, 2016 09:25 PM (iQIUe)
They really need to improve their aim
Posted by: TheQuietMan
I'd love to see a caliber distribution.
Posted by: Jean at May 01, 2016 11:26 PM (cXiMR)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 01, 2016 11:26 PM (39g3+)
Get up, doggeh! Up, boy!
Fetch ONT! Fetch!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 01, 2016 11:26 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 01, 2016 11:27 PM (f4AGl)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 01, 2016 11:28 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:29 PM (uAvJJ)
Don't see why dogs like dog biscuits. the one I just bit into tastes like cardboard.
Dog still loves them, tho'.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 11:29 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2016 11:29 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:30 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at May 01, 2016 11:30 PM (bIGOo)
Don't see why dogs like dog biscuits. the one I just bit into tastes like cardboard.
Dog still loves them, tho'.
Posted by: irongrampa
Don't dogs like cardboard?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 01, 2016 11:31 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2016 11:35 PM (6FqZa)
438
Don't see why dogs like dog biscuits. the one I just bit into tastes like cardboard.
Dog still loves them, tho'.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 11:29 PM (P/8aq)
*puts a Beggin' Strip on IG's nose
Seriously, those look and smell good. Glad I don't have any around and was never inebriated enough when they were around.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2016 11:36 PM (hlMPp)
Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at May 01, 2016 11:40 PM (UpGcq)
Posted by: Emergency Commie Blogging System at May 01, 2016 11:41 PM (zLLv8)
grilled pork chops
baked potatoes
potato salad
and then ice cream
.............
Baked taters AND potato salad???
Sounds like you belong in my wife's family.. potato everything all the time!
Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at May 01, 2016 11:43 PM (UpGcq)
Maet goes through a lot of effort to get the ONT's up, and it's all volunteer.
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:43 PM (uAvJJ)
Sounds like you belong in my wife's family.. potato everything all the time!
Posted by: Chitown-Jerry at May 01, 2016 11:43 PM (UpGcq)
yeah, it was a bit of carb overload. it was very yummy but still, also very carby
Posted by: chemjeff at May 01, 2016 11:43 PM (uAvJJ)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 01, 2016 11:44 PM (f4AGl)
It might look good, but don't be fooled. The burgoo I've had are totally unfit for human consumption.
Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at May 01, 2016 11:44 PM (e+1S5)
I use them teaching dogs to do a gentle "take".
Most dogs do go nuts over them. Perfect for teaching restraint taking food from a human.
Spastic Lab is extraordinary about being gentle accepting anything from hand. Sometime ago,before she was really taught, I caught a 3 year old feeding her treats.
Talk about insanely delicate on the take, I was astonished.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 01, 2016 11:45 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: speedster1 at May 01, 2016 11:46 PM (vUcdz)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 01, 2016 11:46 PM (9ym/8)
Posted by: Emergency Commie Blogging System at May 01, 2016 11:46 PM (zLLv8)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 01, 2016 11:46 PM (6FqZa)
Lone Survivor.
Hate seeing the cockroach goatfuckers who have shit to live for doing this. Nuke the fuckers.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 01, 2016 11:47 PM (hlMPp)
Posted by: Emergency Commie Blogging System at May 01, 2016 11:46 PM (zLLv
What? No amber alert, three stupid weather emergency alerts that it's raining three counties over and two tests of the emergency broadcast system? This isn't like watching cable, at all.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 01, 2016 11:53 PM (zc3Db)
We take it for granted.
Then one night it happens.
There is no ONT.
Yes, it could happen.
This could be that night.
*shudder*
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 01, 2016 11:59 PM (T/5A0)
Remember, y'all, we are Americans, so the head is held HIGH--especially during these times.
Celebrate the country that is still there, under the filth deposited by the progressive left.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 02, 2016 12:00 AM (P/8aq)
Posted by: irongrampa at May 02, 2016 12:00 AM
You too IG.
We are off for a trip to see my in-laws in AZ, he will celebrate 85!
I'm dying w/ back pain and sciatica. Hope the trip goes well.
Posted by: Farmer at May 02, 2016 12:17 AM (o/90i)
Target: Spend the Money to Make Bathrooms Safe For Girls!
Posted by: Lily at May 02, 2016 12:56 AM (Qm82t)
+ add a little more chicken broth the called for
+ 2 jalapenos instead of 1
+ add fresh, chopped cilantro when serving....
(also, its important that you use Mexican not Mediterranean Oregano.
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/recipe/mexican-lime-soup-chicken.html?cm_src=RECIPESEARCH
Posted by: Lily at May 02, 2016 01:04 AM (Qm82t)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 02, 2016 06:39 AM (vvmPQ)
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