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Late Deciders Splitting Between Trump and Kasich in I-95 Primary
So the conservative doesn't play well in the liberal northeast. Ah, to be expected.
Polls close at 8 pm. It will likely be Trump down the line. Here's Chris Stirewalt's tip-sheet for the so-called I-95 Primary. Decision Desk will be covering all the elections, or, as I call them, "primary elections." Meanwhile, noted asshole and buffoon John Kasich can't manage to honor the deal he struck with Cruz.The deal announced late Sunday [for Kasich to concede Indiana to Cruz, and Cruz to concede NM and Oregon to Kasich] night started to show cracks by Monday morning. Kasich declined to direct Indiana voters away from him and toward Cruz. "I've never told them not to vote for me -- they ought to vote for me," he told reporters while campaigning in Pennsylvania, which hosts its primary on Tuesday. "But I'm not over there campaigning and spending resources; we have limited resources."The Mailman's Son has trouble delivering an intact message -- go figure! Open Thread. Apologies for the crap blogging today.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: HH at April 26, 2016 07:12 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:13 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: John katshit at April 26, 2016 07:13 PM (pibXr)
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 07:14 PM (8QGte)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:14 PM (8BJMp)
And in the North East, chasing between Trump and Katshit could be intellectually challenging for some.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2016 07:15 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: HH at April 26, 2016 07:15 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 07:16 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Not happening son of mailman, not happening. at April 26, 2016 07:17 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 07:17 PM (0LHZx)
33 days straight with a first.
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:17 PM (8BJMp)
Nope; I'm not going used to it until it happens and then it will take a long while. Hillary is not well. It's still some time before November. God may have other plans for her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:18 PM (w4NZ8)
Look at his hands. They're tiny, with stubby little digits.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 26, 2016 07:19 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 26, 2016 07:19 PM (eHpnh)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2016 07:20 PM (qc+o5)
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 07:20 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2016 07:21 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: John Kasich, Son of a Mailman at April 26, 2016 07:21 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: pep at April 26, 2016 07:21 PM (LAe3v)
then it will take a long while. Hillary is not well. It's still some
time before November. God may have other plans for her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:18 PM (w4NZ
I'm kinda hoping the DOJ has other plans for her, too. Not holding my breath, but...
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 07:21 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2016 07:20 PM (qc+o5)
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Susan Colins now that's a Republican!!
Posted by: Northeast "Conservative" at April 26, 2016 07:21 PM (0LHZx)
In PA, there are a total of 71 delegates at stake. First, there are 54 elected by the voters, three from each of the 18 Congressional districts. If I understand it correctly, they are not obligated to vote for the popular vote winner at the convention, even on the first vote.
In my #390 comment, I linked to both Trump's and Cruz's lists of delegates who are supporting them. In my district, Trump has three and Cruz has one. I got a robocall from the Trump campaign and a flyer from the Cruz campaign naming the same ones as in my link.
There were three other delegates who were endorsed by the Republican Party. They did not appear on either Trump's or Cruz's lists. I got various flyers and robocalls for them. I expect those delegates to win due to their greater name recognition.
There are a further 17 delegates who are not elected, but consist of state party bigwigs. Ironically, they are required (by law or party rules, I forget which) to support the popular vote winner.
Makes perfect sense, eh?
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 07:22 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2016 07:22 PM (qc+o5)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:13 PM (8BJMp)
Anybody can be first, but who can make the top 17 like I did? : )
Posted by: Blano at April 26, 2016 07:23 PM (NHQQx)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2016 07:24 PM (qc+o5)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:24 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: Northeast "Conservative" at April 26, 2016 07:21 PM (0LHZx)
Just think of the gravitas she brings to the Party, and she's electable too!!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2016 07:24 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2016 07:24 PM (wB8Tg)
I've been praying that "justice will roll down like water and righteousness like an ever flowing stream" in regard to Hillary and also that she has a sincere repentance and conversion, but I'm not terribly confident of the latter two.
Also, God may think we "deserve" Hillary. Ugh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:25 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Northeast "Conservative" at April 26, 2016 07:21 PM (0LHZx)
Hey, I'm a way more conservative Republican than she is!
Posted by: Olympia Snowe at April 26, 2016 07:25 PM (7qAYi)
Quit already you fraudulent degenerate and go back to your day job in Ohio where they love you.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 26, 2016 07:26 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 26, 2016 07:22 PM (qc+o5)
Friends that my Daughter, who is in her 3rd year at U of I, bring home are just about evenly split.
Between bernie and Trump. Go figure. The ones that say they support bernie, most of them also say no way they will vote for Frau Arf Arf.
Just anecdotal but I'm thinking there is a lot of truth to it.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Not happening son of mailman, not happening. at April 26, 2016 07:26 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 07:26 PM (TOk1P)
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Serious question. Why even have a vote if it's meaningless.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 07:26 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 07:27 PM (8QGte)
Incident: Silver Mine Fire
Location: Madison County
Size: 1577 acres
Containment: 10%
Number of Personnel Assigned: 163 (24 NCFS, 79 USFS, 60 other).
Jurisdiction: US Forest Service
Summary: Fire is burning east of Hot Springs, NC. 15 homes threatened.
Updated 04/26/2016 @ 11:45 am
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Certainly worse down east, check the acreage number:
Incident: Whipping Creek Road Fire
Location: Hyde and Dare Counties
Size: 15449 acres
Containment:62%
Number of Personnel Assigned: 153 (20 USFWS, 133 NCFS)
Jurisdiction: NC Forest Service / US Fish & Wildlife Service
Summary: The fire began on Monday, April 18 at approximately 2pm. Highway 264 open as conditions allow, closed to traffic after dark from the Dare/Hyde county line to Englehard.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 07:28 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 07:29 PM (k4M/B)
PPV gold, Baby!
Posted by: fluffy at April 26, 2016 07:29 PM (2hcmo)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 07:26 PM (TOk1P)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hgn72gc
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 07:29 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Paul Newman at April 26, 2016 07:29 PM (12kBq)
And we will have richly deserved it.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 07:27 PM (8QGte)
Those hooves will prolly hurt, too.
Posted by: BignJames at April 26, 2016 07:30 PM (j7iSn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:25 PM (w4NZ
"...she will run rough shod all over this country."
And we will have richly deserved it.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 07:27 PM (8QGte)
Well, it's not like God never meted out a punishment on this earth to the 'deserving'!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2016 07:30 PM (wYnyS)
1. Even though Bernie fans say they'll never in a million years vote for Hillary, we all know they're full of shit and will be good little communists and vote D in the end. Not Trump peeps actually will do what they say and not vote Trump.
2. Even if #1 were not true, these are young voters who woudln't have otherwise voted to begin with. Compare that to the #nevertrump peeps. These are active voters. So Bernie voters saying #neverhillary are voters who wouldn't have voted Hillary in the first place. She doesn't lose anything. #NeverTrump voters would have voted Republican.
So Bernie doesn't really hurt Hillary while the #nevertrump doofuses are handing Hillary a landslide.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 07:30 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Alamo at April 26, 2016 07:30 PM (E/XIS)
Between bernie and Trump. Go figure. The ones that say they support bernie, most of them also say no way they will vote for Frau Arf Arf.
Just anecdotal but I'm thinking there is a lot of truth to it.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois
I'm sure Romney will pull it off.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 07:31 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 07:26 PM (0LHZx)
'If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it.' ~ Mark Twain
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2016 07:32 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 26, 2016 07:32 PM (6bMel)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:32 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:33 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 07:31 PM (k4M/B)
I'm not sure what your meaning is here. Are you comparing Mitt to Trump?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Not happening son of mailman, not happening. at April 26, 2016 07:34 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 07:30 PM (0LHZx)
Plenty of Trump supporters who will never vote for anyone else too, you know.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 07:34 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 26, 2016 07:32 PM (wYnyS)
Good grief, that man was brilliant. Succinct and drop dead correct.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 07:34 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Hillary's Lung Fluke at April 26, 2016 07:35 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:35 PM (8BJMp)
Once was more than enough last week. Let's expand the vocabulary.
sub·parADJECTIVE below an average level.
It's a smart military blog, submarines are a part of smart militaries right?
/s
Posted by: DaveA at April 26, 2016 07:35 PM (DL2i+)
So Bernie doesn't really hurt Hillary while
FIFY.
I won't be pressured into voting for a liberal who can't even pretend to have attained the maturity level of a kindergartener.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 26, 2016 07:35 PM (6bMel)
Posted by: John Boehner in Assless Chaps at April 26, 2016 07:36 PM (eHpnh)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2016 07:24 PM (wB8Tg)
When I hit "post" in the last thread, I saw that the commenter right before me had announced the nood.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 07:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:37 PM (8BJMp)
How many of you are walking in under your own power?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Not happening son of mailman, not happening. at April 26, 2016 07:37 PM (WVsWD)
I woke up smiling. Sick, I know.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 07:37 PM (8QGte)
Both ballots had the same setup: the straw poll at the top followed by the delegate vote in the next column.
The weird part is that, on the Dem side, you could vote for three men, three women. The delegates are identified as "Male delegate for Hillary," "Female delegate for Hillary" etc. so you could gender your vote properly.
On the GOP side, you had a list of names. Period.
Not that it mattered, but I made sure to find out who were the ones who said they were leaning to Cruz. Not that it mattered.
(PS: My wife voted for the Bern, not that there's anything wrong with that. She just hates Hillary.)
Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at April 26, 2016 07:38 PM (TPF/t)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 26, 2016 07:39 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Not happening son of mailman, not happening. at April 26, 2016 07:37 PM (WVsWD)
God willing, I willing walk wherever He leads me. Hopefully it won't be to a camp.
I actually don't think Hillary would go for camps-Maybe a Democrat who followed her might.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:40 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 26, 2016 07:40 PM (eHpnh)
We finally found the establishment guys.
Posted by: Harun at April 26, 2016 07:40 PM (UBBWX)
Looks like the consensus is that hilldawg is already POTUS and the camps will be opening soon.
The contractors have yet to be chosen.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 07:41 PM (k4M/B)
Because Indiana is crucial to his strategy and the race is basically even between him and Trump. He needs Kasich voters to win.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 07:41 PM (MNgU2)
and comfortably defeating Kasich in every fight, why on earth would you
concede anything? Even without running people are more likely to vote
for Cruz than Kasich.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 26, 2016 07:39 PM (39g3+)
I haven't been around here much the last few days, so I'm not sure how much this is being discussed, but Cruz even remotely agreeing to anything Kasich had to offer is one big checkmark in the box that says Cruz is being bought by Gope.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 07:42 PM (TOk1P)
I woke up smiling. Sick, I know.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 07:37 PM (8QGte)
I'd miss the paintings in the Rotunda.
Posted by: "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times..." at April 26, 2016 07:42 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 26, 2016 07:42 PM (NuElX)
I had 3 delegates to pick. On the list I saw most were going to vote with the majority including my congressman who is a delegate. There were 2, a couple who were dedicated Cruz voters, 1 was a dedicated Trump voter.
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:43 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 26, 2016 07:39 PM (39g3+)
To deny marginal delegates to Trump. We will soon find out how much that helps, if at all.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 07:43 PM (uURQL)
If Kasich told people to vote Cruz in Indiana, it would be a huge help for Cruz.
And some people do like Kasich. Go figure. I'd choose Trump over him any day.
Posted by: Harun at April 26, 2016 07:43 PM (UBBWX)
Serious question. Why even have a vote if it's meaningless.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 07:26 PM (0LHZx)
Good question. A number of the delegates claim that they will vote for the popular vote winner in their district on the first ballot at the convention, which they certainly should do, but apparently there is no requirement that they do so.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 07:43 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 07:41 PM (k4M/B)
There's all those FEMA camps they,ve been building since Katrina.
Posted by: BignJames at April 26, 2016 07:44 PM (j7iSn)
I really don't want to live in Identity Politics America.
Posted by: Harun at April 26, 2016 07:45 PM (UBBWX)
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The contractors have yet to be chosen.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 07:41 PM (k4M/B)
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Don't worry about the camps. Trump will build the camps, and they will be the best damn camps on the planet.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 26, 2016 07:46 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 26, 2016 07:47 PM (FXW24)
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I saw a pretty dramatic fire today. An old barn or outbuilding was ablaze. Flames were leaping a dozen feet into the air. I'm not certain but I think it may have been a Fire Department practice fire.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 07:47 PM (Nwg0u)
and for whomever is challenging fascist Kamala Harris for Senator in that primary.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 26, 2016 07:47 PM (WhYLb)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 26, 2016 07:48 PM (c3/So)
Also, we were chastened on this blog that we should consider the reaction of the Left when choosing a nominee.
Is the Left supposed to be careful, too?
Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2016 07:48 PM (2Ocf1)
In PA, there are a total of 71 delegates at stake. First, there are 54 elected by the voters, three from each of the 18 Congressional districts. If I understand it correctly, they are not obligated to vote for the popular vote winner at the convention, even on the first vote.
In my #390 comment, I linked to both Trump's and Cruz's lists of delegates who are supporting them. In my district, Trump has three and Cruz has one. I got a robocall from the Trump campaign and a flyer from the Cruz campaign naming the same ones as in my link.
There were three other delegates who were endorsed by the Republican Party. They did not appear on either Trump's or Cruz's lists. I got various flyers and robocalls for them. I expect those delegates to win due to their greater name recognition.
There are a further 17 delegates who are not elected, but consist of state party bigwigs. Ironically, they are required (by law or party rules, I forget which) to support the popular vote winner.
Makes perfect sense, eh?
_________________
One might almost say it's rigged...
Posted by: tommylotto at April 26, 2016 07:48 PM (A3a8d)
and for whomever is challenging fascist Kamala Harris for Senator in that primary."
Interesting. I did the opposite so I could vote for Cruz. If you don't mind my asking why do you prefer to vote in the Dem contest?
Posted by: Harun at April 26, 2016 07:49 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 07:49 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:50 PM (8BJMp)
I had 3 delegates to pick. On the list I saw most were going to vote with the majority including my congressman who is a delegate. There were 2, a couple who were dedicated Cruz voters, 1 was a dedicated Trump voter.
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:43 PM (8BJMp)
Glad to be of service. I mentioned to my boss on Friday that I didn't know which delegates to vote for, and he had his wife send me those links, which I got on Monday morning. She keeps up with that stuff better than I do.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 07:50 PM (sdi6R)
Yes.
The left choosing Hillary or Bernie this year is a godsend.
Or should have been.
I actually think the Democratic party has been harmed by not having much media criticism. Makes them more corrupt and more willing to go wild.
Posted by: Harun at April 26, 2016 07:51 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 07:51 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2016 07:52 PM (2Ocf1)
Compared to Trump's judgement Cruz is freaking Solomon.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 07:52 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Harun at April 26, 2016 07:52 PM (UBBWX)
because i'd like to hear the shriek of the Hildabeast when Bernie takes #Failifornia... and because i doubt my vote on the GOP ballot would make a difference.
after June, i'll change it back to GOP, because i'm a closet masochist. the state GOP is filled with RINO fools, who give us "electable" candidates like Neal "Carpetbagger" Kashn'Carry, or Carly Fiorna, who try to run as Demonrat Lite, instead of conservatives, and then wonder why they lose.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 26, 2016 07:55 PM (WhYLb)
I guess he was trying to make a local connection, but it just seemed forced and weird.
Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2016 07:56 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: calculator at April 26, 2016 07:56 PM (CRXed)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 07:52 PM (MNgU2)>>>
Yes, but compared to Kasich's judgement, Trump is freaking Solomon!
Posted by: gm at April 26, 2016 07:56 PM (4ueYo)
LOL. It would have also been funny too if you had said "f'in Solomon". New Cruz scandal: "Cruz has a 1000 hidden wives and concubines". National Enquirer exclusive!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:56 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 07:56 PM (mR7Es)
You mean...you actually have to WAIT for the votes to be counted???
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 07:58 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:56 PM (w4NZ
The National Inquirer is trying to tie Cruz to the JFK assassination. I wish I was joking.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 07:58 PM (7qAYi)
Whereas voting in the Republican primary is meaningless if the Republican has no chance in the general.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 07:59 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:59 PM (w4NZ8)
Suck it Graham!
Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2016 07:52 PM (2Ocf1)
Too little, too late.
Which in fact may be their plan...another act of failure theater.
"Oh well, we tried"
It was obvious by...oh..January that neither Jeb! nor Marco was catching fire.
If they'd gotten lame-asses like Graham out and let Cruz and Trump go at it more directly, things might be different.
but they didn't.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 08:00 PM (2rmvw)
You mean...you actually have to WAIT for the votes to be counted???
Well I can give you RI for the Republican nomination, Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 26, 2016 08:00 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 26, 2016 08:01 PM (c3/So)
Today he was talking about ways to ratchet down the enmity. And he didn't come right out and say that Trump will be the nominee but strongly suggested that would be the outcome and that the GOP needs to coalesce.
Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2016 08:01 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 26, 2016 08:01 PM (FtrY1)
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 08:01 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: Lauren at April 26, 2016 08:01 PM (0IMKF)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 07:52 PM (MNgU2)>>>
Yes, but compared to Kasich's judgement, Trump is freaking Solomon!
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i, on the other hand...
Posted by: Spartacus at April 26, 2016 08:02 PM (WhYLb)
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:02 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Not happening son of mailman, not happening. at April 26, 2016 08:02 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
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Scratch a Liberal, find a Nazi.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 08:03 PM (9mTYi)
Seen his latest ad?
http://tinyurl.com/hrlbhma
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 08:03 PM (Nwg0u)
who are the Kasich voters? Help me out here, are any present?
how is he any different on any policy than Hillary?
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:04 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:04 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:05 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 08:05 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:06 PM (zOTsN)
overwhelmingly Democrat state. At least you can try to steer them
towards the least insane candidate.
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even the "sanest" Demonrat candidate here in #Failifornia is bat shit crazy.
hell, my Armenian city councilman AND the Assemblyman are in favor of gun control... hell, they would ban them if they thought they could.
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 26, 2016 08:06 PM (WhYLb)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:06 PM (zOTsN)
It's hard to understand why some seem so blasé. I guess there's a lot of defeatism and dispiritedness after 8 years of communism and the tepid response to it.
But Ted has done what we all said we wanted. He shut down the Gummint over ObamaCare, pissing off the Cartel. He fought the Ex-Im Bank. He stood against Ethanol in Iowa and all the other crony energy subsidies as well. He stood for Uber-style reform at FTC. He helped save the 2nd Amd. at the Court. He won against Bush in Medellin, for American Sovereignty. Trump can't even say "Medellin' unless he used to buy his coke there.
And people go "Oh, they're all the same."
Bullshit. Vote. It matters.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2016 08:07 PM (Ndje9)
how is he any different on any policy than Hillary?
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:04 PM (zOTsN)
Uber RINOs. People who want total milquetoasts as the nominee. They think a Republican will be better for business but they want one to the left of Democrats on social issues
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 08:07 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:07 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 26, 2016 08:01 PM (FtrY1)
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Was it the cheap little plastic baking soda submarine or the big cardboard non-functional submarine?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at April 26, 2016 08:07 PM (jR7Wy)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:07 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Not happening son of mailman, not happening. at April 26, 2016 08:02 PM (WVsWD)
8:02. I was overly ambitious.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:08 PM (9n14Y)
I just looked at my county election results page and that person was on the Democrat ballot.
I don't even know if it's a he, she, or xe.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:09 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: L, Elle at April 26, 2016 08:09 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:11 PM (e3bId)
I just looked at my county election results page and that person was on the Democrat ballot.
I don't even know if it's a he, she, or xe.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:09 PM (sdi6R)
its a new Ben and Jerrys Ice Cream flavor. Mexican chocolate with candied pecans and marshmellow swirl
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:11 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
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Back in 2008, after Obozo had won despite Beck doing everything he could to prevent it, Beck was trying to encourage his listeners saying it wouldn't be too bad. Given the circumstances, whoever was president, he would have only limited options.
It was a more innocent age.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 08:11 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 07:25 PM (w4NZ
We deserve the Beelzebub/Moloch tag team.
Let's pray there is still something to not pulling up the tares in order to save the grain, even if there's not a whole lot of grain.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 26, 2016 08:12 PM (7NKH4)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:13 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 26, 2016 08:13 PM (kP16F)
quote wasn't really true even in his day. It mattered a lot if Lincoln
was re-elected or we got the Democrat McClellan.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2016 08:07 PM (Ndje9)
I'm gonna guess the quote was provided long after Lincoln was dead and buried. Probably more around the time when stalwarts like Grant and James G. Blaine and Benjamin Harrison were fighting against the likes of Pedo-Grover Cleveland.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 08:14 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 08:11 PM (kTF2Z)
Yeah, I'm afraid so. She's at least picking her music...
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:14 PM (9n14Y)
It was a more innocent age.
Truth.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:14 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at April 26, 2016 08:07 PM (jR7Wy)
The cardboard one, of course. Those plastic baking soda ones were actually fun.
Note: that cardboard sub was functional in one direction, just not so hot on the return trip part.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 26, 2016 08:14 PM (7NKH4)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:15 PM (zOTsN)
That made me laugh-a dark kind of laugh, but still a laugh.
Keep on praying, Dan!
One of my prayers right now is something like this: "Even if there are only ten people in this country who love you, Lord. please forgive our sins as a nation and as individuals on account of them."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:15 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:15 PM (e3bId)
We are apparently a few short.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:16 PM (rwI+c)
That's a great descriptive phrase. You should consider putting it in posters and putting it around.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:16 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Insomniac at April 26, 2016 08:16 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Steven at April 26, 2016 08:16 PM (NPZvT)
(OT Dad update: He's home and loopy from the infection still. Cipro should clean that up. It's the new cardiac meds that have me slightly concerned, followup with new cardiac doc next week.)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 26, 2016 08:16 PM (D0J8L)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:16 PM (rwI+c)
******
Naahhh. We have far more than that right here at this blog.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:17 PM (ZpQ2k)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:17 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2016 08:18 PM (bZ7mE)
HOOOOMT KLUUG MAAAAGHA MMMMMFFF YEEERG FLOOOOWWG SLURP SLURP GAHNK fellow Americ- MOOOZZZAF FLOOB MMMM MMMFFF
BLLLLAAAAAAAARGHOF MUNCH CRUNCH GLOBBALLZ
DUMPF DUUUUMPH GLOMMPUT
Thank you.
Posted by: John Kasich Speaking While Eating at April 26, 2016 08:18 PM (2rmvw)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2016 08:18 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:19 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 26, 2016 08:20 PM (RRLg9)
Posted by: Steven at April 26, 2016 08:20 PM (NPZvT)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 26, 2016 08:20 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:20 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:19 PM (rwI+c)
Ask not for whom the bone bones; it bones for thee.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 26, 2016 08:21 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: blaster at April 26, 2016 08:21 PM (2Ocf1)
"Even if there are only ten people in this country who love you, Lord.
please forgive our sins as a nation and as individuals on account of
them."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:15 PM (w4NZ
---------I've always believed that our God is more of a "don't make me come down there" kind of God. Forgiving, but completely willing to make an example for the greater good.
I fear this is "example" time.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:21 PM (9n14Y)
Cruz cant win now, but he ca stop Trump from winning
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:06 PM (zOTsN)
===
Seemingly not anywhere that people vote.
Posted by: Steven at April 26, 2016 08:22 PM (NPZvT)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:22 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:23 PM (ZpQ2k)
And yet still, the Republican Party has earned its destruction. Very much so.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 08:23 PM (TOk1P)
We ask your blessings upon the valiant armed forces of the American military who wisk their lives to protect the welfare of all Your creation. Be their shelter and fortress, and do not llow them to falter. Fill their hearts with faith and courage, and protect them on land, in the air and on the sea. Guide them in peace, lead them toward peace, and return them speedily to their families alive and unharmed.
Amen
we say that every service
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:24 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:25 PM (e3bId)
I fear not. If Trump is the nominee, and loses, the GOPe will be in ascendency again. A smaller Congress for sure, but they will be undisputed.
Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven is their motto.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:25 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 08:26 PM (kTF2Z)
Sad. Difficult. True.
The current display are the buzzards tearing at the corpse.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 08:26 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:27 PM (e3bId)
I disagree. Proceeding from the assumptions that
1) God judges His Own before the general populace, and
2) If Cruz or Trump lose the general election, the Churchians and 'conservatives' will yammer about
a) how Trump supporters didn't support Cruz, or
b) how Trump is a big un-Christian meanie
and therefore not engage in self-reflection and repent to God of their arrogance and general lack of committment to God's glory in the USA
Hillary will probably not be president.
No mistake, the very thought of Donald Trump being the instrument of God's judgment sends me to my knees begging for mercy, because if he is the judgment of God on the US Christian Church, the judgment on America shakes me to my core.
Posted by: shadowofashade at April 26, 2016 08:27 PM (fmjBk)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:27 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:23 PM (ZpQ2k)
===
Out: Lyin' Ted
In: Ten Percent Ted
Posted by: Steven at April 26, 2016 08:27 PM (NPZvT)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 08:28 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 08:28 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: auscolpyr at April 26, 2016 08:28 PM (Ht/4p)
Posted by: Weasel at April 26, 2016 08:27 PM (e3bId)
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How many draft picks do we get?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 08:28 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 08:26 PM (8ZHTC)
The Sunday before Election Day? What happened then?
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:29 PM (sdi6R)
"Even if there are only ten people in this country who love you, Lord.
please forgive our sins as a nation and as individuals on account of
them."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:15 PM (w4NZ
---------I've always believed that our God is more of a "don't make me come down there" kind of God. Forgiving, but completely willing to make an example for the greater good.
I fear this is "example" time.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:21 PM (9n14Y)
And yet I have this strange calm, as if "everything is going to work out, so don't worry."
I take it to mean I'll be dead in a few months.
Posted by: On the bright side... at April 26, 2016 08:29 PM (J3UIw)
Coronary. Massive. She was dead before she hit the floor.
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:29 PM (rwI+c)
I can deal with a Trump presidency, provided he doesn't go full lib in the general, but I can't deal with such a lack of reason. Everybody could love Trump, but the Trumpers would still be saying that Cruz is "establishment".
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (8QGte)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (ptqRm)
The LIVs chose security over freedom.
They voted a couple of days later
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (CNHr1)
Posted by: L, Elle at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (2x3L+)
Things will change then. You'll see.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (ibvBn)
I've always believed that our God is more of a "don't make me come down there" kind of God. Forgiving, but completely willing to make an example for the greater good.
I fear this is "example" time.
Posted by: anisocialist
"If you kids don't behave I'm going to turn this universe right around" kind of a God.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 08:32 PM (k4M/B)
I have to say in all honesty. In this election there is at a bare minimum a booby prize should my candidate have the election stolen.
That would be the look on Teddy's face when they tell him to go pound sand. They can always say to Teddy that yeah, we agree with you that it is a clean slate on the 2nd ballot and at that point it does not matter who got what votes. They just pick who they like and you ain't it.
I really almost want it to happen.
Posted by: Drider at April 26, 2016 08:32 PM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (ZpQ2k)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Old Buffalo at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (ZpQ2k)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:23 PM (ZpQ2k)
unlike that sore looser, Trump
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (7TOkf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) notes at April 26, 2016 08:25 PM (rwI+c)
--------------Also a lot easier for them to get to.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (9n14Y)
Where's there smoke there's Fi-YAH!
Left or right cheek 1st?
Posted by: Fewenuff at April 26, 2016 08:34 PM (T/sbU)
Posted by: Peaches, cautiously dipping a toe in the pool at April 26, 2016 08:34 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: La Frontera at April 26, 2016 08:34 PM (V4RoG)
Posted by: $19,213,022,743,693.68 at April 26, 2016 08:34 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:34 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:35 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 08:36 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 26, 2016 08:33 PM (7TOkf)
******
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:36 PM (ZpQ2k)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 08:36 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Jake (not officially a regular) at April 26, 2016 08:36 PM (FDQm8)
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:36 PM (sdi6R)
Actually God was saying that during Obama's first run but people just couldn't vote for those deemed unpure. I doubt that God is repeating himself but then again maybe he is in a joking manner, knowing that we haven't learned a damn thing over the last 8 years. Yeah it's probably God cracking a joke with tears of laughter in his eyes. I can see that.
Posted by: Drider at April 26, 2016 08:37 PM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:37 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:31 PM (2mC6G)
------------
Biggest problem Cruz has is, he got elected to the Senate. No matter that everybody there hates him for swimming against the GOPe tide. He's a Senator. That makes him "establishment" in their eyes.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:38 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: On the bright side... at April 26, 2016 08:29 PM (J3UIw)
I hope for the sake of those who love you that is not the case.
I'm not feeling too terribly anxious about what will happen. It may mean that I'll be dead by then, but it may just mean that I spend a lot of time in prayer and have given things to God-including myself. It doesn't mean that I don't have times of worry, but I just keep turning things over to God.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:38 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: shadowofashade at April 26, 2016 08:39 PM (fmjBk)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:35 PM (8BJMp)
Yep. I won't like putting a check next to Trump's name, but if that's what I have to do, so be it.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:39 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:38 PM (9n14Y)
*****
That and looking at who he would have to accept money from to win the GE.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 08:40 PM (ZpQ2k)
In Churchill's immortal words: Take two with you.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 08:40 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:34 PM (zOTsN)
------------
We've made it this far with the boob who currently resides in the White House. We'll make it. It won't be pretty, but we'll make it.I'm praying, anyway.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:41 PM (9n14Y)
1) Trump fans become disillusioned
2) whine again about the establishment
3) vote again for someone with policy as in-depth as "hope and change" was
4) Get duped again by "Republican" outsider
5) economic and social policies of the "conservative" party are shifted progressive again by "outsider"
Wait- that's not good.
I understand that the shitheads in the establishment are the problem, but that's because they had abandoned our principles. So, we follow the establishment and do the same? Snap out of it! I feel like short round trying to rouse Indy from that trance of Kali.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 08:42 PM (M3fMi)
Grovel before me in a suitable manner or I shall allow this to continue.
Posted by: SMOD 2016 at April 26, 2016 08:42 PM (12kBq)
thevoiceforlove.com/serenity-prayer.html
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:42 PM (w4NZ8)
At the end of this congress the GOP will have controlled the house for 18 of 22 years, the Senate for 12 of 22 years and the Presidency for 8 of the last 22 years with 4 years of the GOP controlling congress and the White House completely with not only nothing to show for it but for every supposed principle of the party smashed to bits.
The GOP is a fraudulent political party, it cannot be reformed, it needs to be destroyed and a new party needs to rise.
This will be the election that will destroy the party and that's a good thing.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 08:42 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Fewenuff at April 26, 2016 08:42 PM (T/sbU)
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:38 PM (9n14Y)
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Yes, that's how stupid the argument has gotten. Some Trumpers claim to be a reaction against "purism" but then define "establishment" so broadly that only pure non-establishment can qualify.
Cruz is now "in with the Bushes" because he hired Neil Bush for something.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:43 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: John McCain at April 26, 2016 08:43 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. It's too bad Patakamania never cuaght on. I always wanted my very own George. at April 26, 2016 08:43 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 08:43 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalos at April 26, 2016 08:43 PM (k4M/B)
thevoiceforlove.com/serenity-prayer.html
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 08:42 PM (w4NZ
excellent idea, very timely read
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:43 PM (zOTsN)
No doubt about it. Look at all of the off shoots of pure delerium. Beck, Levin, Kristol the entire NRO. It is a blast watching them all turn they're rock solid principles into jello as they do their best to elect the Clinton.
You can't buy a show like that.
Posted by: Drider at April 26, 2016 08:43 PM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 08:42 PM (WVvzl)
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Hopefully, we have a Constitution at the end of it, or it's moot.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:44 PM (2mC6G)
Trump campaign will tear her apart. A last a candidate that will fight.
Posted by: Outside The Box at April 26, 2016 08:41 PM (ShdUd)
I agree. I think Trump has a much better chance in the general than Cruz does.
No matter who the Republican nominee is, the media will label him a racist sexist homophobe reich winger. Trump is the only one who will go on offense.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:44 PM (sdi6R)
going to lose by a good 10-15 points. Not because of conservatives, cruz
or the GOP but because he has 20-80 spilts among women and essentially
all other demos (except uneducated white guys). His collation is far
less viable than even Romney- who actually won married women.
Posted by: Hotdog at April 26, 2016 08:41 PM (DKHw0)
-----------
Well, I vote. Every time. It's a privilege that I don't take for granted. And I won't vote for Hillary.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:44 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: Rick Perry at April 26, 2016 08:45 PM (12kBq)
Actually, I've seen that he's killing it with women in today's voting. So, there's another bs meme down the drain.
Posted by: Peaches, cautiously dipping a toe in the pool at April 26, 2016 08:45 PM (EgOr3)
Hey now, he also has McConnell's campaign law yakker on his staff too. Nothing says "
anti establishment" like anything associated with turtlehead.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. It's too bad Patakamania never cuaght on. I always wanted my very own George. at April 26, 2016 08:45 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: lcdamlcdaml at April 26, 2016 08:45 PM (M0YXY)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:46 PM (zOTsN)
We've made it this far with the boob who currently resides in the White House. We'll make it. It won't be pretty, but we'll make it.I'm praying, anyway.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:41 PM (9
Hopefully the age of the "Celebrity President" and dependence on the executive branch will have been discredited. I had thought about Cruz as VP just to sabotage the interloper and as President of Senate, but I really want to tag that finger Trump waves all the time, break it off, shove it up his ass so I may poke him in the brain.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 08:46 PM (M3fMi)
Posted by: E.T. at April 26, 2016 08:46 PM (c+7Ko)
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 26, 2016 08:47 PM (12kBq)
It's those two things at once. Cruz is a better conservative but would get destroyed in the general. Trump is between Cruz and GOPe and can win the general. And because he bucks the Republican brand so completely he can reset the cultural take on the two parties.
He'll also make a great wartime leader. Because shit is going to fuck in the next 5 years. So figure it out. True national unity is more important than ideological style points.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 26, 2016 08:47 PM (RRLg9)
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:47 PM (sdi6R)
So you're saying my vote counts?!!
...for nothing, duh.
*types
*thinksofdeleting
*presstheanykey
Posted by: micky at April 26, 2016 08:48 PM (o5vMc)
anti establishment" like anything associated with turtlehead.
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Yeah, but Trump called out Cruz for attacking McConnell and said "I can work with him". This was Trump's first volley at Cruz. Called him a "nasty guy" and nobody (in the establishment) wanted to work with (establishment) Ted Cruz.
Trumpers need to remember Trump's stuff perhaps a little better than he does.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:48 PM (2mC6G)
We don't have one now.
Ok, we "have" one, we just don't respect it.
A difference without a distinction, or something.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 08:48 PM (8QGte)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:48 PM (8BJMp)
In Churchill's immortal words: Take two with you.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 08:40 PM (rwI+c)
No, no, not the 'Custer's Last Stand" sort of dead, I mean the "all is as it should be, don't worry about the outside world". A strange feeling of contentment.
Naturally, since nothing good can ever happen, that can only mean that I die in a few months.
Posted by: On the bright side... at April 26, 2016 08:49 PM (J3UIw)
We have been living in a post constitutional America for about 156 years, it's just that it's now just becoming apparent to more people.
How did we lose the constitution?
Slowly then all at once.
We're living in the all at once period.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 08:49 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (RRLg9)
Posted by: roger smith at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (+KAVa)
Posted by: Curtis LeMay at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 07:20 PM (7qAYi)
But they will get stoned, and miss it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (UsLZp)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (ptqRm)
Toughen up butter cup and get in line to support your candidate. He may have some issues but look at who he is running against.
Posted by: Drider at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: DJ at April 26, 2016 08:51 PM (+2t20)
Posted by: Peaches, cautiously dipping a toe in the pool at April 26, 2016 08:51 PM (EgOr3)
We don't have one now.
Ok, we "have" one, we just don't respect it.
A difference without a distinction, or something.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 08:48 PM (8QGte)
That is a very true statement--regardless of what one wants, one should want the sport to be played by the rules of proper cricket--because it is a bulwark designed to protect you. If the rules never be breached, neither can be your liberty.
Posted by: On the bright side... at April 26, 2016 08:51 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: HH at April 26, 2016 08:51 PM (DrCtv)
Out of a nation of 300 million, this is the best we can do?
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 08:51 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Dan Rather at April 26, 2016 08:51 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:51 PM (8BJMp)
Posted by: The Fat Lady at April 26, 2016 08:52 PM (ckvus)
New York was a closed primary so MANY people could not vote.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at April 26, 2016 08:52 PM (2kjDY)
Trump has 0 pct of female support according to the "pollsters" but he makes it up with 200 pct of men supporting him apparently.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 08:52 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Flaming Clown Boner at April 26, 2016 08:52 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (8BJMp)
Not many people worth a damn want the job.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: DJ at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (+2t20)
God's judgment sends me to my knees begging for mercy, because if he is
the judgment of God on the US Christian Church, the judgment on America
shakes me to my core.
Industrial genocide of our unborn alone...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (D0J8L)
Posted by: Drider at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (6Xbsz)
But but "purity" and "RINOS". I won't vote for a Progressive.
And Hotdog, be nice to Peaches. She's one of us. We just need to flip the switch for some people.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (M3fMi)
I don't know why you would direct that at ACE but if I was to try and answer your question, I would say that it would taste like lavender with a whiff of anise touched butter cream.
Posted by: Drider at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: E.T. at April 26, 2016 08:54 PM (c+7Ko)
Correction: Kasich is the only GOP candidate who is clearly beating Hillary in the polls.
Thought: Wasn't Romney the only candidate beating Obama in the polls 4 years ago?
@246: Amen. Anyone who thinks electing another nut to the office of President will change anything needs an evaluation (especially Christians).
Posted by: shadowofashade at April 26, 2016 08:54 PM (fmjBk)
>>>>>>
Give up man. The adherents of Cruzlam cant explain how it is that Cruz would beat Hillary NO SRSLY!! But he cant beat Trump and he is getting caught by Kasich.
I keep hearing "Ted could, IF ..."
Maybe this guy I voted for it's just not a very good candidate.
But do keep.telling me about the Trumpers and whining though.. It's very convincing
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 08:54 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: Drider at April 26, 2016 08:50 PM (6Xbsz)
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Yeah. Except Clinton is a professional politician who knows how to play dirty and won't hesitate to do so. And I mean really, really dirty. She wants the White House so bad she can almost taste it. As far as she's concerned, Obama stole it from her in '08, and there's no way in hell she's going to let that happen again.
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 08:54 PM (9n14Y)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 08:48 PM (8BJMp)
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The press will really dig their teeth into Trump University. There's going to be some investigative reporting (which I hope turns up nothing, btw), digging, and real interest, to get Hillary elected. This is the same press that cooed when John McCain won the party nom in 2008 that he had been "savaged" by the Republican party (who called him "angry") and then mid-general campaign started reporting "serious reservations" about McCain's anger issues.
I really, really hope there is no patent fraud in the Trump University cases. But if it's as bad as what I read, the Clinton Foundation (which bilked for a lot more) won't even get time next to Trump's rip-off program.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:54 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: HH
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Maybe you just became pregnant?
*references earlier story about conception.
Posted by: Chi at April 26, 2016 08:55 PM (AfOTL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8njyLeEfuQ
Posted by: The Fat Lady at April 26, 2016 08:52 PM (ckvus)
Not Gotterdammerung, it's....GOPerdammerung.
Posted by: "Kill the waaabit" at April 26, 2016 08:55 PM (J3UIw)
they are ALL ego maniacs
maybe this is Gods way of saying he needs Cruz in the Senate to fight over reach from wherever it comes
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:56 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 08:56 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 26, 2016 08:56 PM (fmjBk)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 26, 2016 08:57 PM (BS8yt)
Posted by: General Buck Turgidson at April 26, 2016 08:57 PM (12kBq)
Heh. No, all these fireworks explosions, but nothing in the sky. It's been going on for a few minutes now.
Posted by: HH at April 26, 2016 08:58 PM (DrCtv)
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Assumes facts not in evidence
Trump cares only about Trump
Posted by: chemjeff at April 26, 2016 08:52 PM (uAvJJ)
Cause running for the GOP nomination and winning it has zero costs.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 08:58 PM (uURQL)
Any grow operations in your area?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 08:58 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 08:56 PM (zOTsN)
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Or He wants to hear "Green Eggs and Ham" again.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 26, 2016 08:59 PM (NUqwG)
It's my opinion that Trump would have to govern by the bully pulpit anyway; I'd expect Congress would find their b@lls with President Trump.
Posted by: shadowofashade at April 26, 2016 08:59 PM (fmjBk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 08:53 PM (vyXAs)
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Just remember that both parties begged Herbert Hoover to run. If you don't read much of history, it's easy to miss what a BIG BIG name Hoover was in the early 20th century.
And in all honesty Hoover accomplished some great things, including building up a fortune from nothing twice in his life, and feeding Europe during WWI British blockade with a staggering 3% overhead.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 08:59 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at April 26, 2016 08:59 PM (12kBq)
Closed NY primary explains why Trump's lower NY vote total in than Hillary is not that meaningful, not many registered Republicans.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at April 26, 2016 09:00 PM (2kjDY)
Posted by: shadowofashade at April 26, 2016 08:27 PM (fmjBk)
Obama is judgement. Trump is the first hint of a mercy and hope since 2008.
That doesn't let us off the hook for needing to repent of abortion. "women should be punished"
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:00 PM (uURQL)
THIS.
Why don't they see it? Drives me crazy.
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As if Cruz cares about anyone than Cruz
Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 26, 2016 09:00 PM (BS8yt)
Time to buy a tripod and video camera. I'll be releasing the greatest movie blockbuster of all time next year: "Ass"
Soundtrack by Hole.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 09:00 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. It's too bad Patakamania never cuaght on. I always wanted my very own George. at April 26, 2016 09:00 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 09:01 PM (rwI+c)
- Son of mailman
- ????
Still a work in progress.
Posted by: Splunge at April 26, 2016 09:01 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: RioBravo at April 26, 2016 08:59 PM (NUqwG)
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Hah, your time for scoring cheap points on Cruz are about at a close. Now it's time to see which direction rocket Trump fires in. Now it's time for your boy to perform. Show us unbelievers that Trump is not going to vacillate himself into office, or into a Hillary landslide.
The pressure is on, Trumper.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:01 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
>>>>>>>>
This. The founders never wanted a permanent political class. Take a look at the professional politician, the kind of person that they have to be and you understand why.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:02 PM (8ZHTC)
Herbert Hoover
Woodrow Wilson
You'd have thought the American Presidency was a Stan Lee comic for a while there.
Posted by: Pepper Potts at April 26, 2016 09:02 PM (8Dviy)
Posted by: Johnny at April 26, 2016 09:03 PM (Ypf1L)
Posted by: tsj017 at April 26, 2016 09:03 PM (jnAOr)
Posted by: Deno at April 26, 2016 09:03 PM (eAvOZ)
Good night, everyone.
Put not your trust in princes.... or Governors or Real Estate moguls or Senators
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2016 09:03 PM (w4NZ8)
That's basically my take; all this time while we were angry about the GOPe running as conservatives while abetting leftist politics.....I kinda thought it was the second part people were upset about.
Live and learn, drink and die.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 26, 2016 09:03 PM (KF8B+)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:02 PM (8ZHTC)
Exactly. In a just world, crowds would erupt in laughter when Hillary says she's qualified because of her "experience."
Posted by: Splunge at April 26, 2016 09:03 PM (iMxBJ)
Whelp, Trump is our nominee. *sobs loudly*
Alrite, Donald -- Tear that biatch a new one. She's as vulnerable as a plate of lutefisk at a Scandi wedding.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 26, 2016 09:03 PM (gyKtp)
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You have apparently confused me with someone else Assman.
Posted by: RioBravo at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (NUqwG)
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Sure, he's suffered a few setbacks but you'll see, Custer will beat those Injuns in the end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Peaches, cautiously dipping a toe in the pool at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (EgOr3)
Posted by: Lola at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (+51lA)
I take it to mean I'll be dead in a few months.
Posted by: On the bright side... at April 26, 2016 08:29 PM (J3UIw)
Right, but you can only die once.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:01 PM (2mC6G)
*****
It was awfully sporting of Cruz to kick back and let Trump run away with it.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 09:05 PM (ZpQ2k)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 09:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 09:05 PM (rwI+c)
Welp, Trump is getting well over 50% of the vote.
Even without Katshit out of the race Cruz wouldn't be close.
I guess that's it.
On the upside we've got a candidate that plays reasonably well in the NE.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 09:05 PM (2rmvw)
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Yeah, again. Whine about Cruz. Your boy's on deck, and he's a blank check. Your true-belief in the New One does nothing for me.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:05 PM (2mC6G)
273 Trump is the best shot we have at a president who actually cares about the country
Assumes facts not in evidence
Trump cares only about Trump
Posted by: chemjeff at April 26, 2016 08:52 PM (uAvJJ)
heh
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:06 PM (MQEz6)
People that treat selecting those governing America like a damn Mexican cock fight are what got us here in the first place.
Doesn't matter who wins. We've already lost.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:07 PM (8ZHTC)
I think today's vote is in direct response to Cruz's "lawyerly" methods of rounding up delegates.
Keep up the good work Ghost and jwest.
And if I am banned let my parting word be: TRUMP!
Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 26, 2016 09:07 PM (BS8yt)
But from the sound of it, it cost someone a lot of bucks.
Posted by: HH at April 26, 2016 09:08 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Peaches, cautiously dipping a toe in the pool at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (EgOr3)
Really? When/where?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:08 PM (uURQL)
On the upside we've got a candidate that plays reasonably well in the NE.
Posted by: naturalfake
In Republican primaries.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 09:08 PM (k4M/B)
Harumpff.... yes. Here, here. Right you are old sport.
Hand me my satchel Jeeves. I'm off to United Colors of Benningtons. A new hue of pastel polos just came in
Posted by: jacke at April 26, 2016 09:08 PM (i8Shl)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:08 PM (8ZHTC)
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/04/trump-country-is-most-deeply-rooted.html
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 26, 2016 09:09 PM (61Gds)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:09 PM (Nwg0u)
Is that why he talks about what *really* makes America great, like the Constitution, and free markets, and individual liberty? Oh wait no he doesn't talk about any of that, he talks about himself.
He's not running for president out of some selfless act you know.
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Well of those running who has the most to lose?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 26, 2016 09:09 PM (BS8yt)
The fact he doesn't sip his tea with pinky out is not important.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:10 PM (MQEz6)
Unions to attack Trump because he is peeling off union members (1 in 4 !)
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/26/ us-unions-donald-trump-us-election-2016
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:10 PM (nbrY/)
Now that's fucking scary...
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at April 26, 2016 09:10 PM (12kBq)
But from the sound of it, it cost someone a lot of bucks.
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Trump? were they yiuuge and spectacular?
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 26, 2016 09:11 PM (7TOkf)
Posted by: Flowbee Mailmanson at April 26, 2016 09:11 PM (H9MG5)
What was sad was he letting Trump stomp him into a mud hole in the South.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:12 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:12 PM (dZQh7)
Is that why he talks about what *really* makes America great, like the Constitution, and free markets, and individual liberty? Oh wait no he doesn't talk about any of that, he talks about himself.
He's not running for president out of some selfless act you know.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 26, 2016 09:06 PM (uAvJJ)
Quit embarrassing yourself.
You said there were no facts in evidence that Trump is doing this besides personal gain.
The fact is that he's paid a cost in reputation, time, and energy to run for president - and not just to show up, but to win. There are much easier things to do in life than to run this gauntlet.
I have no interest in following your changing goalposts. You made a plainly wrong statement and I corrected it.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:12 PM (uURQL)
THIS.
Why don't they see it? Drives me crazy.
Look at if from the perspective of Donald's Dummies- this is the first time in their lives that they get to support a candidate even less intelligent than themselves.
Sure, many of them will perish in their trailers before the general election due to complications from meth lab accidents, but until then it's their time to shine.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 26, 2016 09:11 PM (KRwzj)
Classy.
Can you sing and dance, too?
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:12 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Peaches, cautiously dipping a toe in the pool at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (EgOr3)
The one video I saw, she looks like a teenager. How old is she?
If she is 13 or older, any father with a teenage daughter, past or present, would forgive him if the little monster is behaving like a petulant snot.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (TOk1P)
Yep. That's what shocked me. "Evangelicals" voting for a New York Liberal. I guess I don't know what the work means anymore.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (rwI+c)
Something.
Let's do something.
Believe me, it will be something.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (dZQh7)
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We know.
It's the same for all the candidates.
What's different is that Trumps interests align with America's.
(As do Cruz' s, but he was unable to make the sale)
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (nbrY/)
But we don't have any of that stuff.
And nobody even remembers what it was like, except MAYBE some of the really old people.
Meanwhile this rhetoric has been abused by charlatans until it has lost all meaning.
You say "Constitution", I think "gay marriage", now guaranteed by the Constitution. You say "free markets" I think "jobs to China", justified on free market grounds. You say "individual liberty" I think "transgender", justified on personal liberty grounds.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (2kjDY)
Posted by: DJ at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (+2t20)
Yep.
Posted by: jacke at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (i8Shl)
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/04/trump-country-is-most-deeply-rooted.html
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 26, 2016 09:09 PM (61Gds)
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Yeah, because deep analysis usually contains nuggets like a Minnesotan stereotype:
"Oh yah? Yah mean like when my grandparents came over from Norway in 1887? Oh gosh no, I don't wanna go back to dose days, heck no. But do I wanna live near da Mall of America? You betcha!"
And the blogger's theory is that people in Minnesota don't remember when America was great, because they have less time as a state in America. Like all those blue states are just begging to be brought back to colonial times! Feh.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: GOP at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (FuBZa)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2016 09:04 PM (4ErVI)
Yes, you only live twice. Or so it seems.
Posted by: "On the bright side" at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (J3UIw)
Classy.
Can you sing and dance, too?
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:12 PM (MQEz6)
That's our Hollowhead. Every time people talk about what a rotten thing Gope is, just remember: Hollowhead IS Gope.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:15 PM (TOk1P)
Hilary is on now. Please God, do not make me listen to that voice for the next four years.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Eight years, citizen!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 26, 2016 09:15 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: biscuiteater at April 26, 2016 09:15 PM (2apy7)
Posted by: Stephanie at April 26, 2016 09:15 PM (eLvFT)
This strong man will do it! He will do Something! He will save us all!
The most American attitude possible.
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:16 PM (mFkVC)
I don't know how her supporters do it. So grating, so harsh.
Nails on a chalkboard carry a better tune.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:16 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:16 PM (2mC6G)
Yet he contributes to Reid and Pelosi and is friends with Schumer. This is all going so well for the Dems. It's a "win" "win" for them either way.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:16 PM (7GQM/)
How very sad, pathetic and ossified the GOP has become that Donald Fucking Trump - DONALD FUCKING TRUMP - is going to be the standard bearer of the GOP.
Say it with me...
DONALD FUCKING TRUMP!
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 09:16 PM (WVvzl)
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I'll say it loud and proud. I don't know what's going to happen in the general. Nobody does. The country is through the looking glass.
I've got a pretty good idea of who will win the nominations barring some black swan event like Hillary kicking the bucket but I guess that'd be a black pig event anyway.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:16 PM (Nwg0u)
This has convinced me to no longer support so-con issues for the sake of party unity.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:17 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: The peasants at April 26, 2016 09:17 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: GOP at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (FuBZa)
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Oh, I dunno.They're a little unkempt, but "revolting" might be going a bit too far...
Posted by: anisocialist at April 26, 2016 09:17 PM (9n14Y)
If she is 13 or older, any father with a teenage daughter, past or present, would forgive him if the little monster is behaving like a petulant snot.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (TOk1P)
2008 and 2011. 8 and 5, give or take.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:17 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:17 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 09:18 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: jimmytheclaw at April 26, 2016 09:18 PM (A9+EM)
Instead we have a NEW question that nobody seems to be noticing:
Will Cruz get the 10% he needs in RI, so that he gets a handful of votes there, or will he get BLANKED, with The Donald getting even more votes than I expected? It may not seem like it, but every few delegates STILL matter.
Posted by: Optimizer at April 26, 2016 09:18 PM (/q6+P)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-1GFgbPCik
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:18 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 26, 2016 09:18 PM (BS8yt)
Unions to attack Trump because he is peeling off union members (1 in 4 !)
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/26/ us-unions-donald-trump-us-election-2016
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:10 PM (nbrY/)
We want that ever-expanding Union Vote! Let's make sure we create laws or policy to keep them happy.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 09:19 PM (M3fMi)
Posted by: Stephanie at April 26, 2016 09:15 PM (eLvFT)
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Cruz took heat from the left for blaming Obama for the violence at the rallies. And so like a politician he adjusted, and adjusted again. His full prepared statement was unequivocal in that the protesters were first of all to blame.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:19 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:19 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: HH
Do you live anywhere near a minor league baseball field? That used to happen to me every time there was a home game when we lived in Little Rock. I always forgot about the Travelers' games.
Posted by: no good deed at April 26, 2016 09:19 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 26, 2016 09:11 PM (KRwzj)
****
Hey, Karl Rove Jr.
How did your boy Rubio do again?
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 09:19 PM (ZpQ2k)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:20 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:14 PM (2mC6G)
Minnesota is a really liberal state, and thanks to its importation of Somalians, is our top terrorist exporting state.
The criticism is not unwarranted.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:20 PM (uURQL)
I
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:13 PM (TOk1P)
2008 and 2011. 8 and 5, give or take.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:17 PM (uURQL)
Really?? I really thought she looked like a teenager, the video from a week or two ago.
Had to have been the older one at least, but I would have thought older than 8.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:20 PM (TOk1P)
That's it in a nutshell.
Jingos can't see this. They're unfortunately too emotionally wrapped up in what is now a myth.
Posted by: jacke at April 26, 2016 09:20 PM (i8Shl)
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I never cared all that much for the Star Spangled Banner. Could we put this to music?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:21 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 26, 2016 09:21 PM (BS8yt)
The Democrats have a history of convenient deaths,
so who knows?
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 09:21 PM (2rmvw)
Keep reading some of the earlier ones, it's good stuff. I don't know if the blogger is 100% right, but it's likely not a coincidence that Trump is going to win all of the 13 original colonies.
Big Wins in both the South and the Northeast... nobody really knows why
Posted by: Just Sayin' at April 26, 2016 09:21 PM (2kjDY)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 09:16 PM (WVvzl)
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The Fucking Catalina Wine-mixer!
Oh.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:21 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:22 PM (mFkVC)
So back to my writing efforts, as in rewriting chapter so can get money to help afford the propane.
https://www.gofundme.com/8k4zdgw9
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:22 PM (px66F)
Well what has the evangelical vote gotten for it's lockstep support of the GOPe in the last 50 years?
They've gotten it up the squeeker as the progressives have racked up one victory after the other while GOPe does it's "aw shucks we fought them as hard as we could honest. It's time to move on but don't forget to donate to us because if you don't then the Democrats will win. okeydoke.
Time to flip the script and fix the GOP glitch.
Fuck the GOP it needs to die.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 09:22 PM (WVvzl)
Basically, this election has shown that many conservatives are less free market-oriented and more interested in cultural cohesiveness. (I'm trying to use polite words here.)
I think its understandable because the GOP and Democrats has dropped the ball on so many issues. So, why not try Trump?
I include Democrats because, really, if you're a blue collar white male Democrat, they have really forced you out of their party.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:22 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Ian Astbury at April 26, 2016 09:22 PM (12kBq)
Had to have been the older one at least, but I would have thought older than 8.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:20 PM (TOk1P)
You must hang out with some really tiny teenagers.
I do stuff with my church's youth group, and even the tiniest girls (7th grade) there look way bigger than Cruz's older daughter.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:23 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:17 PM (mFkVC)
You want Raylon Givens.
You'll settle for Euell Gibbons.
You'll get Beldar Conehead.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:23 PM (TOk1P)
Minnesota is very much like Iowa and Wisconsin and they're fairly blue these days. Is it actually because of actual Scandis? What is the mindset difference.
I don't think I know any.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:23 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: that Mortal Kombat announcer at April 26, 2016 09:23 PM (0OG8D)
That's it in a nutshell.
Jingos can't see this. They're unfortunately too emotionally wrapped up in what is now a myth.
Posted by: jacke at April 26, 2016
I guess we're just giving up to the left, huh? Sure, this guy looks tough now, but he'll fall back on things against our principles, like all Progressives do, rather than buckle down and actually put Conservative policies in practice.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (M3fMi)
Churchgoers go for Cruz by huge margins, I believe. The "evangelicals" that are voting for Trump are the type that only really show up at church a couple times a year, by and large (I know maybe two exceptions, and one is a big Ron Paul-type).
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: g6loq at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (zj+JZ)
Remember the no personal attacks thingie? You just attacked every Trump fan personally and directly.
Now let me offer you this tasty bag of dicks to nosh on.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Flowbee Mailmanson at April 26, 2016 09:11 PM (H9MG5)
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great sock!
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (7TOkf)
>>>>>>
Grumpy, I don't know what anything means anymore.
The progs have turned everything on its head.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (8ZHTC)
I agree completely that they have been given nothing.
But, by the same token, non-so-con voters have to had to grit their teeth and vote for religious types even when it cost seats.
Its okay now, though. I can just wait until a new party forms. Meanwhile we'll get a fully stacked SCOTUS.
Buy your guns now and bury them.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (dZQh7)
Unfortunately it appears that Democrats are a solid majority now. That didn't use to be the case.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:25 PM (sdi6R)
You must hang out with some really tiny teenagers.
I do stuff with my church's youth group, and even the tiniest girls
(7th grade) there look way bigger than Cruz's older daughter.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:23 PM (uURQL)
Ok, I just watched it, she's standing on some platform or something, I guess. Still a petulant snot, but at 8, I guess she's allowed.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:25 PM (TOk1P)
Hello, fellow propane person. I know of your troubles.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:25 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:20 PM (mFkVC)
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No, actually they don't. Hillary & Bernie combined was aprox 1.8 million votes compared to half that for all 3 GOP candidates in New York.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:25 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. It's too bad Patakamania never cuaght on. I always wanted my very own George. at April 26, 2016 09:25 PM (WVsWD)
You'll settle for Euell Gibbons.
You'll get Beldar Conehead.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:23 PM (TOk1P)<<<
You want Raylon Givens.
You'll take Arlo Givens.
You'll get Dewey Crowe.
Posted by: Art Mullen's Marshal stiffy at April 26, 2016 09:25 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:26 PM (vyXAs)
Buy your guns now and bury them.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (dZQh7)
If it's time to bury them, it's time to use them. They don't do any good underground.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:26 PM (sdi6R)
Thought experiment: let's just imagine for a moment that, for all Trump's negatives...
he can, and does, beat Hillary in November.
Does that make him even a little bit more palatable to anyone here?
(Note, I have very mixed feelings about both DT and his ability to win.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 26, 2016 09:26 PM (ntObR)
1) Constitutional principles
2) Smaller government
3) Free trade
4) Lower taxes
5) Social conservative issues
Politicians will take note of this for future elections - these things no longer matter. Instead of candidates who are imperfect on these issues, we will get ones who don't even bother to pretend to care.
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:26 PM (mFkVC)
Remember the no personal attacks thingie? You just attacked every Trump fan personally and directly.
Now let me offer you this tasty bag of dicks to nosh on.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 26, 2016 09:24 PM (gyKtp)
Hollowpoint = Gope.
That's all anyone really needs to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:26 PM (TOk1P)
Churchgoers go for Cruz by huge margins, I believe. The "evangelicals" that are voting for Trump are the type that only really show up at church a couple times a year,
>>>>>>
But Trumpers are cultists????
Wanna go to heaven,sinner? VOTE TED
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:26 PM (8ZHTC)
Minnesota has a lot of Scandanavians, don't it? I think that's a major cultural factor. All of those countries are socialistic and communal. That attitude makes sense when it's cold and you need to work together to survive.
Problem is importing foreign cultures, and trying to scale what works in a small homogenous community.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:27 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 26, 2016 09:27 PM (ntObR)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:28 PM (mFkVC)
2) Smaller government
3) Free trade
4) Lower taxes
5) Social conservative issues
Notice how immigration and borders isn't on that list?
That's why the GOPe must die.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:28 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 26, 2016 09:28 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Donald Trump at April 26, 2016 09:28 PM (sl+zA)
Posted by: Stephanie at April 26, 2016 09:15 PM (eLvFT)
And the Orange Messiah basically blamed Pamela Gellar's "draw Mohammed" event for terrorism, so fuck him.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 09:29 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: Just Sayin' at April 26, 2016 09:21 PM (2kjDY)
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Some of us have a pretty good idea.
Trump, never having leaned too far to the right, appeals to MOR voters that the establishment GOP would like to court. He's a pragmatist, and if he stays the course will close the borders and reform illegal immigration (like I hope he does), and is mainly concerned with "jobs" which appeals to blue-collar voters, but also protectionists policies (which historically prove to make people with the country end up paying 200% of what they otherwise for goods.)
But 2-1 in New York state voted for a Dem as opposed to Trump. Trump's not getting a lot of those blue-state electoral votes, unless he can pull off a landslide--and I need more than Tri-Trump-halism to make me think he can do that.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:29 PM (2mC6G)
The Trump people are voting for isn't a celebrity. Reagan was a celebrity. "Trump" is a fictional TV character, but people have lost the ability to make the distinction.
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:29 PM (mFkVC)
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Givens was kind of a jerk. I think I'll vote for Boyd.
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:30 PM (nbrY/)
That is what the surveys say, as far as I know. Got any data otherwise?
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2016 09:30 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:30 PM (px66F)
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/pa
Of course, as I said earlier, the popular vote may prove to be meaningless at the convention, since most of the delegates are not bound by it, even on the first ballot.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:30 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Auscolpyr at April 26, 2016 09:30 PM (Ht/4p)
Thought experiment: let's just imagine for a moment that, for all Trump's negatives...
he can, and does, beat Hillary in November.
Does that make him even a little bit more palatable to anyone here?
(Note, I have very mixed feelings about both DT and his ability to win.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 26, 2016 09:26 PM (ntObR)
Shit, I'll be satisfied if he doesn't wipe out the House with his toxic coattails.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 09:31 PM (CFl8c)
So all of those... including the Constitution... are to be sacrificed in favor of a physical wall on the southern border?
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:31 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:28 PM (mFkVC)<<<
He's a weaselly little shit, but at least he's fairly competent.
Posted by: Art Mullen's Marshal stiffy at April 26, 2016 09:31 PM (H9MG5)
OK, rickl, you don't want to wait to see if your man wins?
Just go straight to the revolution?
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:31 PM (dZQh7)
not much worse than voting for an actor, no ?
Posted by: runner at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (KCxzN)
they're fairly blue these days. Is it actually because of actual
Scandis? What is the mindset difference.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:23 PM (vyXAs)
Look at the counties that make MN solidly blue, and look at the demographics in those counties (with the exception of St. Louis and Lake Counties). If only Scandis voted in MN it would be the reddest state in the upper Midwest.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (ztrrs)
I'm not a huge fan of Gary Johnson either but he's miles better than Trump that's for damn sure.
Posted by: chemjeff
Johnson is for a wide open unrestricted border.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (k4M/B)
The left has successfully constitutionalized it's agenda without the pesky process of actually passing amendments to the constitution.
In order to turn back their wins would take constitutional amendments.
Want to outlaw abortion? Constitutional amendment.
Want to return to a traditional understanding of marriage? Constitutional amendment.
The left has been working for decades to stack the judiciary while the GOP has been scratching it's balls.
The GOP must die.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (WVvzl)
>>>>>>>>>
An (R) losing in New York?
Shocking.
First election, huh kid?
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! at April 26, 2016 09:33 PM (WVsWD)
I wish you the best. Remember to think about friends and shifty blog acquintances when you do.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:33 PM (vyXAs)
OK, rickl, you don't want to wait to see if your man wins?
Just go straight to the revolution?
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:31 PM (dZQh7)
I don't see any point in burying guns. That sounds like an admission of defeat.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:33 PM (sdi6R)
But he is cleaning up in the votes. At this point I almost want Trump to get to the 1238. I think if he is elected he'll make the Bushes look like Coolidge by comparison but if the party bigwigs are miserable I'll survive on their tears. And we may well get Bernie, shortly followed by WW3 although the media will never ever use those words with a D in the WH.
Posted by: Palerider at April 26, 2016 09:33 PM (dkExz)
no, an actor is an actual human being who exists on our plain of reality. "Trump" exists in the same way that Luke Skywalker or Tony Stark exist. Reality TV and celebrity culture have apparently made this a difficult distinction for people to grasp.
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:33 PM (mFkVC)
I will give Trump a few months.
I predict attacks on "the banks" and a min. wage that beat s Hills...exemption for hotels and resorts, of course.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:34 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:34 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (KCxzN) fnord (KCxzN)
Not remotely.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 26, 2016 09:34 PM (wB8Tg)
http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article5015.html
No word if the pilot in the accident is the same one who praised the F-35.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:34 PM (px66F)
Those aren't the issues anymore.
National Survival is the issue.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at April 26, 2016 09:34 PM (2kjDY)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:35 PM (mFkVC)
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I'd estimate from 1775 to 1968 and then a brief restoration in the 1980s.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:35 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: The Pessimistic Hat at April 26, 2016 09:35 PM (vBeA5)
I can't shake the feeling that I should be sealing them in plastic and burying them in lead-lined boxes, in the hope that future generations will find them.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: chemjeff at April 26, 2016 09:25 PM (uAvJJ)
If I pay $1 for a beer ... fair transaction.
If I pay $10 for a beer, I'm clearly overpaying, maybe I'm foolish.
If I pay $100 for a beer, it's clear that I'm not buying it to get drunk.
Considering the state of the country right now, running for president is not just for vanity. Considering what the Left is ... facing them is no cakewalk.
Trump is overpaying ... there are easier ways to get rich. If he just wanted glory ... there are lower risk options.
If he's a selfish patriot, he's still a patriot. And he's doing the job I want him to do against the GOP.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:35 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: The peasants at April 26, 2016 09:35 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Jean at April 26, 2016 09:36 PM (cXiMR)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:31 PM (mFkVC)
And will the Great Dealmaker even build a wall, or will he go for the best "deal" he can get, basically the Gang of Eight amnesty with a wall to be built later?
Does anyone really believe Trump has any idea why Rubio was toxic to conservatives?
Of course, it's all a moot point as the guy will get destroyed in the general.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 09:36 PM (CFl8c)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 26, 2016 09:36 PM (iQIUe)
He's not even tough now; he doesn't oppose what's being done against North Carolina, he didn't oppose what was done to South Carolina before that, and he bragged about being able to work with McConnell. I could go on.
Apparently, that's the "unity" Trump fans want-with progressives. At the expense of any conservatives who try to fight back. Fuck unity.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 26, 2016 09:36 PM (KF8B+)
__________
wow. step back from the bong for a moment. exhale.
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 26, 2016 09:36 PM (7TOkf)
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:37 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 09:37 PM (To5TQ)
Now burying books, that's a different story.
I can't shake the feeling that I should be sealing them in plastic and burying them in lead-lined boxes, in the hope that future generations will find them.
Posted by: rickl
Or you could have a group of people memorize them.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 09:37 PM (k4M/B)
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not much worse than voting for an actor, no ?
Posted by: runner at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (c6/9Q)
It is rather funny, people getting the vapors over Trump. This is the same country that elected the gay homosexual Buchanan, elected U.S. Grant, a drunken nincompoop, the same country that elected Grover Cleveland, a pedophile, twice! We elected a grandstanding populist progressive punk in Teddy Roosevelt, a socialist cripple in FDR, a simple-minded fool, Truman, who let commies run around in his government, and then Tricky Dick, Rabbit-bait Carter, and Clinton the Rapist.
Not to mention the current Scoamfy occupant.
Forgive me if I don't see Trump as befitting the office. Seems to me he fits it quite well.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:37 PM (TOk1P)
I did. Damn lucky nobody was killed as there was people in/around the tower.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:37 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:31 PM (mFkVC)
If you're going to ignore an existential threat to America in your priorities, your judgement is deficient and irrelevant.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:37 PM (uURQL)
Any advancing of the conservative agenda in the face of 57% Progtard lockstep voter (and nonvoter) opposition is just gravy.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: Optimizer at April 26, 2016 09:18 PM (/q6+P)
Looking at CNN now it says Cruz is at 10.4% in Rhode Island so if there's a bar he just crossed it. He did better in PA where he's at about 21% of the vote. Of course Trump is crushing all of them.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (4ErVI)
I guess he was trying to make a local connection, but it just seemed forced and weird.
Posted by: blaster
Just seems like Cruz to me.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (QdAXQ)
2) Smaller government
3) Free trade
4) Lower taxes
5) Social conservative issues
Notice how immigration and borders isn't on that list?
That's why the GOPe must die.
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It's #1. There is no way that the states would let the federal government import millions of people into their states and tell them "Hey, they're your new citizens now." You have to accept them because we run immigration, punks!!
Also #2, if we offered fewer social benefits, we wouldn't have this problem.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (M3fMi)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:39 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 09:39 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:39 PM (px66F)
Does that make him even a little bit more palatable to anyone here?
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Yup.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:39 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:40 PM (px66F)
It would make even Mitch fucking McConnell more palatable, in the same way eating shit is better than eating arsenic.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 26, 2016 09:40 PM (KF8B+)
Well, Vladdy is a very strong and forceful proponent for his country and people. We used to have Presidents like that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:40 PM (vyXAs)
The "Nation," in the case of the US, is defined by the principles outlined in the Constitution and developed by the founders (although even they, as in the case of slavery, often applied them imperfectly).
To vote for someone who has no regard for or understanding of these principles is undermining any meaningful sense of the "Nation." Essentially, you are saying the only way to save the nation is to destroy it utterly.
This is one of the reasons the claim that Trump "loves America" in some exceptional way is absurd.
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:40 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Jean
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I wish I had thought of that!
Posted by: Rick Perry at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (AfOTL)
They do not.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (8ZHTC)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 09:32 PM (WVvzl)
...................................
Do you really think Trump is for limited government?
He's a big government Democrat. He won't be able to resist. Admit it.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 09:37 PM (To5TQ)
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Because Let it Burn!
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (2mC6G)
he can, and does, beat Hillary in November.
Does that make him even a little bit more palatable to anyone here?
I've been expecting him to win both the primary and the general for probably eight or nine months now.
He is going to be a tyrant, and continue the destruction of the constitutional system that Obama has set in motion. He might, at least nominally, be on my side, but the end result is the same. That is true whether or not he keeps his promises (I don't think he will, for the most part) - it is pretty much baked into his character. All we are arguing is whether we want Marius or Sulla running things.
I don't imagine Cruz could change things, but he might at least slow the process down long enough for the states to get their act together.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (px66F)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (QdAXQ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:40 PM (vyXAs)
There's also the who should I be more afraid of: Some guy having a tough time manipulating parts of the Ukraine or the Allahu Ackbar crowd moving in down the street.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (4ErVI)
I thought you didn't think the Constitution is worth the paper it's written on?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (vyXAs)
Tucker has known for a while. He wrote a pretty funny article about a message Trump left on his answering machine and conceded Trump was right.
Posted by: ryukyu at April 26, 2016 09:42 PM (FuBZa)
Posted by: Rick Perry at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (AfOTL)
You did think of that, fake Rick Perry. You just forgot YOU were in the military.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:42 PM (TOk1P)
Oh Trump's an instrument of someone, but it's not God.
Posted by: Daisy at April 26, 2016 09:42 PM (vaFpc)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2016 09:42 PM (Ndje9)
destruction of the constitutional system that Obama has set in motion.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (bZ7mE)
Bingo.
Give this man a bottle of bourbon and a box of ammo.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2016 09:43 PM (Zu3d9)
reality. "Trump" exists in the same way that Luke Skywalker or Tony
Stark exist. Reality TV and celebrity culture have apparently made this
a difficult distinction for people to grasp."
i sense a disturbance in the comic books universe
Posted by: runner at April 26, 2016 09:43 PM (c6/9Q)
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 09:43 PM (2rmvw)
Except Norman Schwarzkopf is dead...
Posted by: Anna Puma
Maybe looking for Gen. James Mattoon Scott
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 09:43 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (7GQM/)
And yet still, Gope must die.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:43 PM (TOk1P)
The whole "little Marco" and "Lyin' Ted" thing just rubbed me very wrong. (Also comparing Carson to a child molester.)
Well apparently I am in a small minority on that, which would be okay, but there's also the policy issues.
Yeahhhh, I'm kind of a libertarian, so Trump doesn't excite me there either.
So I guess GOP will become more of a European style party under Trump.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Rick Perry"
Rick, has your ween returned to its normal color yet?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (vyXAs)
Also #2, if we offered fewer social benefits, we wouldn't have this problem.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (2mC6G)
Congress could pass a bill tomorrow making every illegal a citizen, and it would be completely Constitutional.
No, Constitutional principles does not sufficiently cover the problem of immigration and the Democrat-GOP alliance to disinherit Americans from their own country by importing 3rd world serfs.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (gyKtp)
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They that sow in tears shall reap in joy.
Do you know this psalm? 126
what does it mean? it means someone sowing fields during a famine, taking seed corn from their families mouths.
its a decision. a grim one.
Posted by: Kasich voter trying the newfangled lingo at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (Cq0oW)
And making it "issue #1" hasn't prevented that.
Trump promised to appoint good conservative judges, but frankly it's a breath of fresh air for him to not blow smoke at us about how he's going to return us to some originalist definition from hundreds of years ago that he has no power to bring about, except through appointing judges who will (VERY GRADUALLY) change things.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (2kjDY)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (MNgU2)
Quote me or retract, liar.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:45 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2016 09:41 PM (bZ7mE)
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I at least would be more confident in his SCOTUS appointee (should he get the chance--nah face it, Obama goes full recess-appointment if a Pub wins in November).
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:45 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:46 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 09:46 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:35 PM (uURQL)
Who then, when the Dems sweep in Nov., will be around to do the job you want against the Dems?
Posted by: The Pessimistic Hat at April 26, 2016 09:46 PM (vBeA5)
Well apparently I am in a small minority on that, which would be okay, but there's also the policy issues. "
Count me in your minority then. A 69 year old man with the maturity of a 12 year old. It's repulsive.
Posted by: Daisy at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (vaFpc)
One of those people led to a civil war. The other led an incredibly corrupt administration. Another greatly expanded the role of the federal government. Another incredibly expanded the role of the federal government and exacerbated the Great Depression. Another caused stagflation. And I'd argue all of them knew more about public policy and world affairs than Trump does. You're not making me feel better.
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (To5TQ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (4ErVI)
It's the fvcking Northeast.
What did you expect?
This is the land of Rockefeller Republicans...if we are lucky.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (MQEz6)
Any advancing of the conservative agenda in the face of 57% Progtard lockstep voter (and nonvoter) opposition is just gravy.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (8ZHTC)
The problem is that the wrecking ball is aimed square as conservatism and America.
The GOPe will be unphases and just collaborate with the Dems.
The Dems will be laughing... and Trump will probably join them.
Posted by: The DOOM Hat at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (vBeA5)
Nominating Trump is like a Flawless Defeat. Can't wait.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (CFl8c)
So I guess GOP will become more of a European style party under Trump.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (dZQh7)
The GOP has been trending toward a European-style big government "conservative" party for a long time. Trump has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:48 PM (Nwg0u)
528 Of course Trump is crushing all of them.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 26, 2016 09:38 PM (4ErVI)
It's the fvcking Northeast.
What did you expect?
This is the land of Rockefeller Republicans...if we are lucky.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (Zu3d9)
He did well in other places, too.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:48 PM (MQEz6)
On April 4th, a RNoAF F-16 equipped with a travel pod was used to transport a heart-lung machine from Trondheim to Bodo, 290 miles, in 25 minutes to save a patient's life.
http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article5014.html
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:48 PM (px66F)
Except since we're not just Rome, but instead Ultra-Rome, we've got the choice between Mega-Marius and Super-Sulla.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 26, 2016 09:49 PM (noWW6)
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I always thought I'd be a diehard Cruz supporter at the start of the primaries last year. But bit by bit, he kept distancing himself from me. The Kasich team up was the last straw.
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:49 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (uURQL)
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Like I said, under the original idea, the federal government would have to find states that wanted to let them be citizens. It did not have the judges to ram it down the throats of the states. We do now because of "Incorporation". And the antifederalists worst predictions have come true, the federal court system is used to ladle state power into the hands of the federal system.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:49 PM (2mC6G)
I dunno, how do you feel about another European War? Me, I'm not a fan of reruns.
Posted by: person
I don't care if they want to fight each other just as long as we get to sit it out.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 09:49 PM (k4M/B)
A drunk, stumbling Jack Elam doesn't seem half bad, does he?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:49 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:43 PM (TOk1P)
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Replaced by a whiny Big Government Democrat named Donald.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (px66F)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (mFkVC)
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Yes, past tonight he is just a destructive force.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: mugiwara
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My negatives are yuuuge!
Posted by: Teh Donald at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (OLNwX)
Except since we're not just Rome, but instead Ultra-Rome, we've got the choice between Mega-Marius and Super-Sulla.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 26, 2016 09:49 PM (noWW6)
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I think you meant YUUUGE. And really, just the best Sulla, I mean top-notch. /Donaldese
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:51 PM (2mC6G)
i think it's time for cruz and kasich to drop out....i'm not happy about cruz having to but them's the breaks......
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Yes, past tonight he is just a destructive force.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (Nwg0u)
i'm sad about cruz.....he has no path
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 26, 2016 09:51 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:51 PM (mFkVC)
We have dutifully elected GOP majorities in every branch of government the GOP has failed intentionally or unintentionally. It is a failed organization and it needs to die
Trump did not bring us to this point.
The GOPe did. They created him. They own him.
Any constitutionalism or federalism will depend FIRST ending the GOP in its current form.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:51 PM (8ZHTC)
If general war breaks out in Europe I don't know if we can stay out of it. Brits and French with their nukes and if they think they're going to get overrun......hold on to your ass.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:52 PM (vyXAs)
Time to enjoy some Triumph circa 1981: Ordinary man, Fight the Good Fight, Never Surrender, some scripture, and off to bed.
Posted by: Cooldawg at April 26, 2016 09:52 PM (DwvNG)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:48 PM (MQEz6)
And your point is?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: The Pessimistic Hat at April 26, 2016 09:46 PM (vBeA5)
"When" assumes much.
I picked the effective media fighter who is loyal to his employees and doesn't back down from PC attacks.
After seeing McCain allow his campaign to diss Palin, and Romney crumple and "didn't want to be president", I'm quite comfortable with the choice.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (uURQL)
Oh Trump's an instrument of someone, but it's not God.
Posted by: Daisy
The Lord works in mysterious ways. Maybe Trump is God's instrument. No one knows.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (QdAXQ)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 09:47 PM (To5TQ)
It's not really meant to. We are a profoundly silly nation, that has been doing profoundly silly things for quite some time.
I think this does get back to the beauty of its founding, and the principles laid out in the Constitution. That in spite of the damned fools who have run this country, we somehow managed to muddle through well enough, for as long as we did.
The left has managed to become the existential threat they are today, by attacking the Constitution itself, and shown the opposition Party, our lovely Gope, to be the hollow, pointless thing that it is.
No, I don't mean to make anyone feel better about any of this. It is what it is though.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (mFkVC)
*Vote For The Crook. It's Important.*
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 26, 2016 09:44 PM (gyKtp)
Hillary Milhouse Clinton - I am not a crook....well maybe a bit and by a bit I mean totally
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 09:54 PM (45oDG)
I'm am going to save and cherish this quote, and bring it out after Trump's sudden but inevitable betrayal.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (vyXAs)
Time to enjoy some Triumph circa 1981: Ordinary man, Fight the Good Fight, Never Surrender, some scripture, and off to bed.
Posted by: Cooldawg
If it's Triumph, under the circumstances I think 'Magic Power' is what is required.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (QdAXQ)
And can't forget Libya, Yemen, Syria, or Iranian dreams of empire.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (px66F)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:49 PM (2mC6G)
Doesn't change my point. Constitution doesn't prevent any of it.
You have to go past the Constitution and look at the Preamble and the very concept of what a nation is.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (7GQM/)
And?
And still, Gope must die.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (TOk1P)
I just like it better when they have principles.
I'd also like to see those tax records.
I know most people here just love Trump, but I have niggling doubts.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (vyXAs)
I saw Giant Audio Problems open for Big Audio Dynamite in 1988
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (mFkVC)
553 He did well in other places, too.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:48 PM (MQEz6)
And your point is?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2016 09:53 PM (Zu3d9)
Trump has had success elsewhere, so the type of Republican in NE is not important.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (vyXAs)
FIFY.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (sdi6R)
Like a certain General James Mattis, perhaps?
*sigh*
What a fun election that would have been.
Posted by: DC in River City at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (e+1S5)
Vladimir Putin is a strong and forceful proponent of his bank account and his friends' bank accounts. To the extent his country assists with that, awesome. To the extent the rights of any of his people must be quashed for that, awesome.
A country that is widely acknowledged as the most corrupt in Europe, where individual rights are a joke, where the GDP per capita is $14,000, and where people who opposed the government are regularly jailed and occasionally assassinated is not a place I look to as a model for the U.S.
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (To5TQ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 09:50 PM (Nwg0u)
i'm sad about cruz.....he has no path
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 26, 2016 09:51 PM (0O7c5)
That Trump does is even more sad.
Posted by: The DOOM Hat at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (vBeA5)
You guys are all missing steps in your plan for that.
Trump will cut deals. GOPe will become his best buddies.
Or he will lose, and GOPe will explain that loss by saying it was Trump's fault, not their's.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (MQEz6)
Which has nothing to do with anything I responded to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (Zu3d9)
He'll be your candidate, cupcake.
Not mine.
Posted by: SparcVark at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (YLLI8)
>>>>>>>
That's just because FOX hates Cruz !!!!!!or something something...
Posted by: Mortimer at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (8ZHTC)
I think that is the biggest right now of non-Islam related. The ChiComs are basically colonizing shoals and atolls in the South China, many of which are territorial claims of The Philippines and others. It's a major waterway. Coms, Japanese and Koreans are really arming-up.
Tinder box.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 09:58 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 09:58 PM (mFkVC)
I saw Giant Audio Problems open for Big Audio Dynamite in 1988
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (45oDG)
Really? They didn't clash on stage?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:58 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (TOk1P)
*************
and yet the Dems. live on and multiply.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:58 PM (7GQM/)
Spot on. I don't blame Trump supporters at all. They trust The Donald. I try to trust God, and I need to get much better in that specific endeavor.
Bobby Knight endorses Trump....? Wow, didn't see that coming. That may close the deal. People respect him here in Hoosierville.
Posted by: Cooldawg at April 26, 2016 09:58 PM (DwvNG)
580 Trump has had success elsewhere, so the type of Republican in NE is not important.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (MQEz6)
Which has nothing to do with anything I responded to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (Zu3d9)
Perhaps not.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 09:58 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (dZQh7)
O_o
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (nbrY/)
So, not a good sign.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (dZQh7)
You have to go past the Constitution and look at the Preamble and the very concept of what a nation is.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (uURQL)
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Not the Constitution as read by today's judges. But the Constitution as agreed and ratified by sovereign states that had the power to ratify it.
People are saying that the Constitution is done with--that type of mentality is going to put us post-Constitution, where the justices we don't like so much already want to go. As long as we have a Constitution to which people at least need to genuflect from time to time, we can argue founding principles. Without it. There's nothing but "effective governance" and whatever the leaders want to convince us that is.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (dZQh7)
Most people on this blog don't love Trump... its just that the Trumpsters are so nasty about their support that many have taken to lurking rather than deal with them.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:00 PM (egOGm)
Trump will cut deals. GOPe will become his best buddies.
Or he will lose, and GOPe will explain that loss by saying it was Trump's fault, not their's.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (dZQh7)
Nope, not missing any steps. If you are 100% correct in one of your predictions or the other...
Still, Gope must die.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:00 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:00 PM (egOGm)
I'll definitely grant that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (vyXAs)
Or he will lose, and GOPe will explain that loss by saying it was Trump's fault, not their's.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:57 PM (dZQh7)
Kasich isn't staying in the race because the GOPe is eager to have Trump as the nominee.
All Kasich has to do is quit and Ohio's delegates switch and Trump gets his delegates to secure the nom.
Instead ... he's staying in, and teaming up with Cruz.
That's not because Trump's their first choice. (that was Jeb. *spit*)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 09:56 PM (dZQh7)
Most people on this blog don't love Trump... its just that the Trumpsters are so nasty about their support that many have taken to lurking rather than deal with them.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6)
Well, nastiness is abundant on both sides.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6)
o_O
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (nbrY/)
I meant GOP primary voters in general this cycle.
To be honest, Ace has been an oasis of mental health for me.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 09:58 PM (7GQM/)
And yet still.....
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (TOk1P)
I managed to catch it in a jar and tossed it outside. I have no idea how it got in.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (sdi6R)
That's not great, but I think revanchist Russia, desperately seeking to undermine NATO and reacquire the land lost by the USSR, is a real pip too.
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (Q44iK)
Still, Gope must die.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:00 PM (TOk1P)
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Yesssss!!!! You can say that a few more times.
Posted by: Hillary at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (mcm0N)
598 The real Trump fanbois come out on nights like this when he is doing well.
Thankfully they all leave as soon as it's time for WWE Raw to air.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 26, 2016 10:00 PM (KRwzj)
Classy again.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (px66F)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Johnathan Gruber at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (aRUb8)
His hair is the color of cheetos. That is not a color found in nature.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (egOGm)
his hair, like his skin changes colors daily......
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (0O7c5)
I think so. A makeup person wouldn't fark up that bad consistently over and over and over.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:03 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6)
Much like the GOPe created the opportunity for Trump with their repeated failure, I only got vocal here on AoS because of your repeated nonsense.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 10:03 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Hillary at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (mcm0N)
Nah, Hillory loves Gope too. Just like some people here.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:04 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: jacke at April 26, 2016 10:04 PM (i8Shl)
They will learn from this election... and what they will learn is that voters don't real care about traditional conservatism. So candidates won't bother.
Posted by: person at April 26, 2016 10:04 PM (mFkVC)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (Q44iK)
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That would prove it a truly fit predator.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:04 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:05 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (WVvzl)
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There will only be one Party. The Democrats. So I guess you're fine with that.
Hope you don't own any guns.
You may be jailed if you're a climate change denier.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 10:05 PM (7GQM/)
Just reporting on how the cookie crumbled.
Posted by: Ed Anger at April 26, 2016 10:05 PM (RcpcZ)
And replacing it with a Trump GOP that doesn't even pretend to care? No.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 26, 2016 10:05 PM (KF8B+)
The real Trump fanbois come out on nights like this when he is doing well.
______
My cousin just left, so i have some free time post humpin'
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 26, 2016 10:05 PM (7TOkf)
= Gope
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (TOk1P)
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This is a brilliant counterpoint.
Posted by: Hillary at April 26, 2016 10:05 PM (mcm0N)
And guess what else, Ace?? Yep! The northeast gets to vote in the general election.
Suck it.
Posted by: Vodka at April 26, 2016 10:06 PM (xKQ1K)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 10:06 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: firehorse at April 26, 2016 10:06 PM (//TVq)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:06 PM (DEJix)
Posted by: Hillary at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (mcm0N)
Nah, Hillory loves Gope too. Just like some people here.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:04 PM (TOk1P)
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Some people like to win. Eye on the prize, baby.
Posted by: Hillary at April 26, 2016 10:06 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:07 PM (egOGm)
Most people on this blog don't love Trump... its just that the Trumpsters are so nasty about their support that many have taken to lurking rather than deal with them.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6)
It's cute that you think that.
Posted by: rickl at April 26, 2016 10:07 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:07 PM (Q44iK)
Posted by: Skip who voted for the Lion Ted at April 26, 2016 07:13 PM
At least we know who you are.
A number of years ago, the Academy Awards were streaked by an unknown. After weeks of forensic research, the streaker was identified as Euell Gibbons.
T'was his goldenrod and wild hickory nuts that led to the identification.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (sOhww)
Posted by: Johnathan Gruber at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (aRUb
Yippe-kai-ya, muddafuck.
Posted by: Hans Gruber at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (7qAYi)
So, we got make-up people screwing this up so badly over and over?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: firehorse at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (//TVq)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:01 PM (Q44iK)
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Democrat rule for all eternity. Prisoners voting and Illegals too.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (7GQM/)
60% are ready for Trump. SMOD 2016, here we go!
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (uURQL)
Suck it.
Posted by: Vodka at April 26, 2016 10:06 PM (xKQ1K)
And you think they'll be voting for Donald Dump? LOL
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (ztrrs)
We are living in a post Constitutional America, have been for at least 156 years.
It means exactly what 5 people on SCOTUS can dream up and have the nerve to try to get away with.
For all intents and purposes there is only one prime amendment, the 14th, which apparently abridged all others and wiped away the tenth.
Which further illustrates that a great many people do not fully understand the predicament we are in.
There is only one path back and it's not to be found in the voting booth.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (WVvzl)
with their repeated failure, I only got vocal here on AoS because of
your repeated nonsense.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 10:03 PM (uURQL)
Not really. It's the voters who are to blame. The same voters who would repeatedly re elect the same corrupt people to positions of power....as long as they "brought home the bacon". No different than the mindset of the crony capitalists who buy politicians with the money shuffled thru their lobbyists. THEY deliver the cash for a benefit to themselves...the peons deliver their vote for a benefit to theirs.. Little difference between the two as far as principles go.
Posted by: Johnathan Gruber at April 26, 2016 10:08 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:06 PM (DEJix)
Everyone wants to let it burn until they start to smell smoke
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (7qAYi)
now people sound like a bunch of pathetic whiners. What the hell
happened?
People don't like it when their own stuff starts burning.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (r9m+B)
= Gope
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:02 PM (TOk1P)
*********
This is a brilliant counterpoint.
Posted by: Hillary at April 26, 2016 10:05 PM (mcm0N)
I'm perfectly capable of making brilliant counterpoints.
Some people and some comments, however, don't deserve it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (DEJix)
The most telling single comment from Mattis is that after long years of service deployed abroad, he felt he had come home to an America that was stranger and more foreign to him than some of the places he had been.
I recognize that sensation of no longer being part of my own country, as I expect many others here do. It's the first time I've heard a public person of a prominence comparable to his say that out loud.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 10:10 PM (WVsWD)
with their repeated failure, I only got vocal here on AoS because of
your repeated nonsense.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 26, 2016 10:03 PM (uURQL)
No you get vocal here defending the indefensible on any given day. You on more than a few occasions go beyond vocal to emulating Trump himself. Its baked in here at this point. If people don't want to deal with ugliness, they don't post.
Nonsense indeed... I am not the one supporting the progressive who loves single payer and partial birth abortion (not to mention ruinous tariffs and bullying).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:10 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM (Q44iK)
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (7qAYi)
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Bingo.
Reality bites.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: Ronald Reagan at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM (mcm0N)
Oh no. Whatever are you suggesting?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM (vyXAs)
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Yeah, I threw up a little in my mouth when I heard about that. And then Katshit backstabs him. Yeah, he's ready for Putin, the Ayatollah, and Young Un.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM (Nwg0u)
now people sound like a bunch of pathetic whiners. What the hell
happened?
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!!
I never wanted to "let it burn".
I wanted to "let it be medium rare with a nice sear and tasty crust on the outside".
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM (2rmvw)
Posted by: Josephistan at April 26, 2016 10:12 PM (7qAYi)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:12 PM (zOTsN)
They know Cruz has absolutely no chance in the general election.
Posted by: Gobbagoo at April 26, 2016 10:13 PM (H7eLj)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at April 26, 2016 09:55 PM (QdAXQ)
You've got a point, but I can't see Trump winning even with magic power. Most of my female friends and acquaintances are nevertrumpers even here in Indiana.
Posted by: Cooldawg at April 26, 2016 10:13 PM (DwvNG)
Even for those who never left, you have to go "WTF?"
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:14 PM (vyXAs)
What am I suggesting?
A dance off, something sorta of like the sharks and jets from West Side Story or the BAD video.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 10:14 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 26, 2016 10:14 PM (WhYLb)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:14 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:15 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 26, 2016 10:15 PM (WhYLb)
now people sound like a bunch of pathetic whiners. What the hell
happened?
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We won the Senate in 2014 (yes, and what happened?) and so we got on task about getting a non-establishment candidate into the presidency to reverse Obama. A lot of us will fall back to L.I.B. Because it's not like the country isn't burning with SJWs and BLM and open borders and Safe-Spacers and Laboratories-of-tyranny universities.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:15 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Albert King at April 26, 2016 10:15 PM (AfOTL)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:12 PM (zOTsN)
Me too ThunderB
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (nbrY/)
I wanted to let it burn. I didn't want to pants it and torture it first.
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (To5TQ)
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I know if I look hard enough, I'll find Rod Serling around here somewhere.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (DEJix)
Said the Trumpkin, without a hint of sarcasm or irony.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (ztrrs)
So I guess it's back to stockpiling matches.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (Q44iK)
Posted by: Cooldawg at April 26, 2016 10:13 PM (DwvNG)
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Many women I know in Texas will never vote for him.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (7GQM/)
Finally I came to terms with what it means that after 7 years of horror under Obama, his approval rating is around 50%.
Posted by: Meremortal at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:09 PM (DEJix)
I voted for Bill Clinton. And Al Gore. And Mike Dukakis. I was young and foolish and needed your money.
Posted by: Baron bon Mot at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (J3UIw)
Nonsense indeed... I am not the one supporting the progressive who loves single payer and partial birth abortion (not to mention ruinous tariffs and bullying).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:10 PM (nUJM6)
******
I'm waiting for you to start comparing yourself to Churchill. Or start convulsing. Either one would be amusing.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: jacke at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (i8Shl)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (zOTsN)
1. Denial (He's topped out. He can't get past 30%)
2. Anger (This is ridiculous! He's getting millions of dollars in free advertising! The NE is all Liberal! Of course he sweeps NY!)
3. Bargaining (Kasich, come on bro, the only way to defeat him is to band together! Gimme Indiana.)
4. Depression (sh!t. I'm done. I'm not going to vote. I quit. The country is finished.)
5. Acceptance (Ding Dong the Establishment is Gone! Build the wall, stop the bad trade deals, rebuild the military!)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (kfoLf)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:14 PM (zOTsN)
A couple weeks ago there was a flurry of articles posted by so-called conservative pundits, claiming Trump almost no chance of getting to 1237.
So if he makes it there, does that mean these people are incompetent or were they lying to try to influence outcomes?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM
I 've heard that chemjeff is your man.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (sOhww)
He has major raccoon eyes. I can't figure out if it's bad make up or tan lines or some combination of both.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (Q44iK)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:19 PM (fk8ma)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:12 PM (zOTsN)
He'll be to busy discrediting coservatism.
Posted by: The DOOM Hat at April 26, 2016 10:19 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 26, 2016 10:19 PM (o98Jz)
now people sound like a bunch of pathetic whiners. What the hell
happened?
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!!
I never wanted to "let it burn".
I wanted to "let it be medium rare with a nice sear and tasty crust on the outside".
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM (2r
I wanted to burn the government, but that won't happen now. We're getting repeal and replace for Obama care, if that.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 10:19 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:11 PM
I 've heard that chemjeff is your man.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (show)
Chemjeff?
No thank you.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:20 PM (2rmvw)
--
He just finished looking at the gallery of "Kasich eating on the campaign" photos
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 10:20 PM (nbrY/)
Underneath the layer of filth deposited by the progressive left is the America I love.
It is still the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by the most exceptional people.
In time, it will be that shining city on a hill again.
It falls to people like you and I here to bring that about.
I have utter faith in the success of this task,simply because we are Americans, and as such, are denied the option of failure.
There is always the bedrock, unchanging and eternal to guide us.
That bedrock is comprised of the Declaration of Independence--the WHY.
The Bill of Rights--that which is inalienable for ALL.
And finally, the Constitution--the blueprint.
Laugh at me if you choose, but you can refute NONE of it.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2016 10:20 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: D. Trump, "The D stands for Deal!" at April 26, 2016 10:20 PM (8Dviy)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at April 26, 2016 10:20 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 10:20 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:21 PM (Q44iK)
I've never been a big fan of Ted Cruz, but from what I can tell he's popular with Conservatives who care about the future of their country.
This in deep contrast to Donald's Dummies- those driven by shallow celebrity worship who hold not the slightest concern about the well-being of the USA- not when compared to the allure of cheap entertainment value and tribalistic fanboyism.
Sure, they'll try to rationalize their thoughtless, emotionally-based fanaticism for an obvious fraud by claiming that it has some form of higher purpose- opposing the "Gope", supporting an "outsider" or whatever- but most people see through their vapid excuses. They're screaming 14 year old girls at a Justin Beiber concert, trying to find meaning where there is none.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (KRwzj)
You don't like Cruz?
Why not?
The Shutdown?
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:21 PM (MQEz6)
Trust us, she's still alive! You can still vote for her!
Posted by: The DNC, between the convention and November at April 26, 2016 10:21 PM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 26, 2016 10:21 PM (px66F)
put that on a bumper sticker
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (zOTsN)
This is where I'm at now, and listening to him now I'm just laughing, he will go after Hillary with a sledge hammer and if nothing else, it will be entertaining - he will not back down the press BS and their stupid questions, they are all probably astonished he doesn't give a crap about their stupid questions or their feelings either.
Posted by: firehorse at April 26, 2016 10:21 PM (//TVq)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (WVvzl)
*****
Screaming from his eyes again?
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:21 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:22 PM (Q44iK)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:12 PM (zOTsN)
Me too ThunderB
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (nbrY/)
No.
He must be resisted now and always. When his destructive path is done and the GOP is a carcass with Democrats pissing all over the corpse, there must be those who can be trusted to rebuild (/i.e. those who will say "I told you so").
Posted by: The DOOM Hat at April 26, 2016 10:22 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (TOk1P)
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Depends on whether Trump was ignorant or lying when he said that none of the establishment GOP wanted to work with "nasty" Ted ESTABLISHMENT Cruz. And all you Trumper parrots following along right behind him.
Yet just as sure as Trumpers were that nobody could work with ESTABLISHMENT CRUZ, they became quite sure that the entire thing was just an act of Ted ESTABLISHMENT--now CFR--Cruz.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:22 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:22 PM (vyXAs)
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Didja see that video of him rocking out to Springsteen?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:22 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose
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*readies the CO2 extinguisher*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (OLNwX)
1. Denial (He's topped out. He can't get past 30%)
2. Anger (This is ridiculous! He's getting millions of dollars in free advertising! The NE is all Liberal! Of course he sweeps NY!)
3. Bargaining (Kasich, come on bro, the only way to defeat him is to band together! Gimme Indiana.)
4. Depression (sh!t. I'm done. I'm not going to vote. I quit. The country is finished.)
5. Acceptance (Ding Dong the Establishment is Gone! Build the wall, stop the bad trade deals, rebuild the military!)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (kfoLf)
Where's "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold"?
Posted by: Baron bon Mot at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 10:10 PM (WVsWD)
Since I just got here, I really couldn't tell you for tonight (nor does that matter since I was providing a general comment to sexypig).
Do you really want or need a list for the nastiness over the last few months (or a list of the people who lurk instead of posting because of it)? Cause I gotta tell you, you are not being honest with yourself if you say you haven't seen the personal attacks on other posters when they criticize Trump (as if attackers are themselves are Trump and are defending their personal honor).
Nor could you have possibly have missed the over the top defenses of Trump's nastiness and bullying (and the repetition of Trump's lies here).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (nUJM6)
***************
LOL not even Cruz's own daughters like him.
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (fk8ma)
Maybe if they would blot those tears away they could see that Trump is starting to pull even with her.
Posted by: Gobbagoo at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (H7eLj)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 10:19 PM (dx6bM)
Nah.
Trump's been all over the place, but as of late he's mostly talked about a market/competition across state lines approach, much like Cruz.
So, we'll see.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (2rmvw)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:24 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:24 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: t-bird at April 26, 2016 10:24 PM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 10:24 PM (YwQCs)
I have friends who have a dairy. And beef cattle. I'm set.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 26, 2016 10:25 PM (egOGm)
conservatives have NO EXCUSE. I've got an ever stronger stake in Hillary
not getting to the Whitehouse.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:18 PM (2mC6G)
Trump will get crushed regardless of how I vote, so I'll salvage my dignity by not voting for that fucking disgusting piece of shit since it won't make any difference anyway.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:25 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:25 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (fk8ma)
1. Denial (He's topped out. He can't get past 30%)
2. Anger (This is ridiculous! He's getting millions of dollars in free advertising! The NE is all Liberal! Of course he sweeps NY!)
3. Bargaining (Kasich, come on bro, the only way to defeat him is to band together! Gimme Indiana.)
4. Depression (sh!t. I'm done. I'm not going to vote. I quit. The country is finished.)
5. Acceptance (Ding Dong the Establishment is Gone! Build the wall, stop the bad trade deals, rebuild the military!)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (kfoLf)
Where's "Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold"?
Posted by: Baron bon Mot at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (J3UIw)
Where's alcoholism?
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (QuixQ)
I refer to it as a "Lone Ranger Tan". Like all the skiers have after wearing their sunglasses on the slopes.
Posted by: Paladin at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (r6vt4)
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (fk8ma)
You've as much evidence of that as I've got of your mom doing sailors for a buck in the back alley.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 26, 2016 10:16 PM (7GQM/)
..................
Is this guy for real? Or is he the pervert in stall three at the local Target store with some serious issues that go well beyond politics?
Posted by: Tyler Mason at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (DQ7cg)
Posted by: Baron bon Mot at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (nUJM6)
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I think upthread that somebody even suggested that (creepy) Cruz needs to have child protective services called on him.
I'm not relishing "conservative" politics that is ascendant with Trumpers.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:27 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (QuixQ)
***
On the ONT and certain political threads.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:27 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Gobbagoo at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (H7
Trump has been a forceful and coherent advocate of Conservative ideas, so I can see him getting more people on board with the ideology rather than resorting to promising people goodies for their votes.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 10:27 PM (dx6bM)
I don't hate Trumpers, or Trump.
I think Trump is a particularly shitty person but I don't hate him. Hell I'm gonna vote for the guy if he's the nominee.
More people need to listen to Dennis Prager.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 10:27 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:27 PM (zOTsN)
there's plenty of blame to go around on both side for nastiness and bullying.
Check out this thread as a for instance-
it's not the pro-Trump people being nasty.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (2rmvw)
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Classy.
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (fk8ma)
They have. Really perverted the label and brand.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (fk8ma)
Gee, why would any Cruz supporter possibly refuse to vote for Trump?
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (ztrrs)
conservatives have NO EXCUSE. I've got an ever stronger stake in Hillary
not getting to the Whitehouse."
Uh, why should I agree with this? I won't vote Hillary. I won't vote Trump. If Trump gets the nomination I will formally leave the Republican party, so party loyalty appeals will mean nothing. I thought the "whaddaya gonna do, vote for a DEMOCRAT?!?!" appeals grated when McCain and Romney were running, so they're not going to make me vote Trump.
Posted by: SparcVark at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (YLLI8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: BurtTC
Probably both.
CharlieBrownsDildo made an excellent point the other day (I think it was on a Saturday afternoon thread), that if the GOPe talk down Trump and actually work against him, and he loses, then they actually will become MORE powerful than now. Today Rush was talking about Charles Koch (one of the notorious Nazi Koch brothers) actually talking about supporting Hillary.
CBD does not like Trump, but apparently is willing to vote for him against Hillary in the general election.
The organizational types win if Trump loses (if he is the nominee), even if the country gets screwed by Hillary Clinton getting elected.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (+1T7c)
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Totally agree, especially his happiness is a moral obligation vid.
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (fk8ma)
You are a conservative unlike Ace and Allahpundit and all the others who would rather have Hillary
Posted by: Deno at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (eAvOZ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (OLNwX)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (zOTsN)
Self-medication. No way I'm paying a doctor to take a sedative and calm down on the weekends.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (vyXAs)
You people know how elections work, particularly presidential elections, right? Oh yeah, nevermind, Trump voters.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 10:30 PM (CFl8c)
put that on a bumper sticker
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (zOTsN)
Couldn't be any better either... and didn't your mama ever tell you not to tempt fate by saying it can't get worse. I would suggest you break that jinx by throwing salt over your right shoulder or something:-P
P.S. -- I am still pulling for a contested convention mainly because Cruz would actually do conservative things but partly to not give in to the ridiculous claim that Trump should win not by getting a majority but just by getting "the most"... as if that has ever been the rule EVER in the history of the Republic.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:30 PM (nUJM6)
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Romney was/is more liberal than Trump by far. I can't see how people who voted for Romney could rationalize not voting for Trump.
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:30 PM (fk8ma)
727 You've as much evidence of that as I've got of your mom doing sailors for a buck in the back alley.
****************
Classy.
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (fk8ma)
Better than the bathroom stall in a bar, I guess.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:30 PM (pUDQf)
It is still the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by the most exceptional people.
In time, it will be that shining city on a hill again.
It falls to people like you and I here to bring that about.
I have utter faith in the success of this task,simply because we are Americans, and as such, are denied the option of failure.
There is always the bedrock, unchanging and eternal to guide us.
That bedrock is comprised of the Declaration of Independence--the WHY.
The Bill of Rights--that which is inalienable for ALL.
And finally, the Constitution--the blueprint.
Laugh at me if you choose, but you can refute NONE of it.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2016 10:20 PM (P/8aq)
Sorry, but this nation wasn't created ex nihilo. It is not something that could be created. It is the confluence of so many historical factors. It is delecate... once destroyed, then it is gone.
The only options we really have are to endure and hope that somewhere, sometime, we will be able to raise those values, customs, traditions, and mores.
The debate should be what we can do to preserve something of what America was. Diaspora? Remnants? How will the few position themselves to revive what has been when the Progressive experiment ends in failure in such a way that we can become dominant while keeping out anyone who wants to invade and fill the void?
Posted by: The DOOM Hat at April 26, 2016 10:31 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (nUJM6)
You have the right to be "over the top" when defending your candidate. That is not being nasty to other posters.
Which posters have personally gotten nasty with you.
Calling you a cruzboi, a cruzster, a cruxbot, a cruzader, and my favorite a "branch cruzidian"
I haven't seen much of that at all with the Trump supporters and they those that have, have gotten the boot.
However, on just this thread alone, there have been dozens of attacks on the Trump supporters.
Again, who has gotten nasty to you to the point of calling you a "branch cruzidian" implying
1. You are a mindless idiot...
2. You deserve to die in a fire at the hands of your own goober'mint.
Please show me who has gotten nasty to you.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 10:31 PM (WVsWD)
Not when you elect a progressive to the White House to achieve your ends. Unless your ends are destroying the GOPe while strengthening the DEMe.
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 10:31 PM (YwQCs)
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Maybe you have, they just don't want to get lynched so they don't admit it.
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 10:31 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 10:31 PM (R5HRU)
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That's pretty much my take except I don't think there fs much if in if he's the nominee.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:31 PM (Nwg0u)
Damed if you do, or damed if you don't. That is an ugly fate we face. I am still not sure what I will do come November. I can not imagine a Hildabeast Presidency. However I think the GOP and the Dem's will have Impeachment as a centerpiece of the table. Let me see who Trump has as a VP...
Posted by: Paladin at April 26, 2016 10:32 PM (r6vt4)
Posted by: SparcVark at April 26, 2016 10:28 PM (YLLI
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I haven't called myself a Republican in 8 years, and have disputed the term "RINO" since then, because "Republican" worked the same for me. My post wasn't about party loyalty. If you don't think you have an interest in Hillary Clinton not being elected, then so be it. I just don't think NeverTrump makes any more sense than NeverCruz, when we're talking about Clinton II.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:32 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: iforgot at April 26, 2016 10:32 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:32 PM (zOTsN)
put that on a bumper sticker
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:17 PM (zOTsN)
Couldn't be any better either... and didn't your mama ever tell you not to tempt fate by saying it can't get worse. I would suggest you break that jinx by throwing salt over your right shoulder or something:-P
P.S. -- I am still pulling for a contested convention mainly because Cruz would actually do conservative things but partly to not give in to the ridiculous claim that Trump should win not by getting a majority but just by getting "the most"... as if that has ever been the rule EVER in the history of the Republic.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:30 PM (nUJM6)
I don't understand what you mean?
If Trump gets 1237, the rules say he gets the nomination?
Do you want some other hurdle put before him?
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (QuixQ)
***
On the ONT and certain political threads.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:27 PM (YLidQ)
Slainte!!!
Posted by: cthulhu at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (EzgxV)
You are a conservative unlike Ace and Allahpundit and all the others who would rather have Hillary
Posted by: Deno at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (eAvOZ)
Since Trump is not a conservative in any sense of that word, so you cannot expect people who actually value small government and personal rights to support him. Refusing to support Trump is NOT supporting Hillary. They both suck and I will not vote for either of them as they do not in any way represent my values.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (nUJM6)
Maybe if they would blot those tears away they could see that Trump is starting to pull even with her."
Trump has a lot of work to do. I don't care about polls at this point, but when most females I know are nevertrumpers in Indiana, that's a problem...
Posted by: Cooldawg at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (DwvNG)
Maybe 1 more anti trump screed will do the trick.
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (DEJix)
Posted by: Axeman
---------------
Well said.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (OLNwX)
You really think this is going to be over?
The anti-Democrat vote is now split into 3 mutually hostile camps. We're not going to come together until we get two years of Hillary, at the earliest.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (KF8B+)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (YLidQ)
Gragree. If they turn the convention into a circus it is curtains.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Cooldawg at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (DwvNG)
Indiana is coming up, right? We'll see what the results are soon I guess.
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (nbrY/)
Duh.
This site is for entertainment purposes only. I hope to god you have some kind of life outside the webz.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:35 PM (Q44iK)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (nUJM6)
.............
Great! That puts you out of the equation!
Posted by: Tyler Mason at April 26, 2016 10:35 PM (DQ7cg)
There isn't a difference between Clinton & Trump
Quite frankly if the conservative movement is to be shot down, I would rather see a real republican take on Hillary than some wannabe fake republican
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2016 10:35 PM (voOPb)
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There is no universe or alternative reality in which Cruz could win a contested convention. His name is not Lincoln.
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:35 PM (fk8ma)
Just today you inaccurately inferred that a Trump critic was an anti-Semite.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 10:35 PM (MNgU2)
Maybe 1 more anti trump screed will do the trick.
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (DEJix)
*****
And yet you chose to post at this irrelevant little blog. Why?
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (YLidQ)
If Trump gets 1237, the rules say he gets the nomination?
Do you want some other hurdle put before him?
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (MQEz6)
eman... you pretend not to understand (why you would bother, I don't know). 1237 means no contested convention and also that I will be voting third party. I am very obviously pulling for Trump to get <1236.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: x at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Cooldawg
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65% negatives among the population.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (OLNwX)
Maybe 1 more anti trump screed will do the trick.
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (DEJix)
If it's so irrelevant why don't you fuck off?
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (DEJix)
Duh.
This site is for entertainment purposes only. I hope to god you have some kind of life outside the webz.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:35 PM (Q44iK)
Absolutely. Nothing of historical note ever said here.
Posted by: Baron bon Mot at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Gobbagoo at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (H7eLj)
Posted by: @votermom at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (nbrY/)
Why so mad?
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (DEJix)
Exactly - just so.
Posted by: Daisy at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (vaFpc)
Maybe 1 more anti trump screed will do the trick.
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (DEJix)
I really don't see that gun held to your head.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (voOPb)
I would disagree with the inaccurate part of your comment.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Jen at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (msAGT)
polls at this point, but when most females I know are nevertrumpers in
Indiana, that's a problem...
Posted by: Cooldawg
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65% negatives among the population.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (OLNwX)
He'll make it up in volume.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (CFl8c)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:38 PM (vyXAs)
You mean the same Romney who Trump criticized as malicious for his tough immigration policy?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 10:38 PM (MNgU2)
I hate Hillary. I remember Benghazi. Never
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (zOTs
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This times a gazillion.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 10:38 PM (kTF2Z)
///The burn it down crowd are such a lovely bunch of smug condescending
little bitches aren't they? They can predict the future, are all-knowing
,wouldn't know how reason through to the actual consequences of their
actions but "burn it down." You see your predictions have absolutely
no basis in reality but I'm sure it makes you feel powerful with all
your supernatural powers. Why don't you come out in the open so when the
country finally burns out we'll know exactly who were the tough talkers
that had all the answers. We'll make sure you're following through and
are out dying in the streets since you're so tough. That way I can make
sure my children and grandchildren know exactly who destroyed their
futures.///
///Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 10:24 PM (YwQCs)///Let's get things straight here. It won't be Trump burning down the house. It will be the Libs who absolutely freak out over him. They have shown us through chalk talk that anybody who is pro-American is a H8ter.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 26, 2016 10:38 PM (kfoLf)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (nUJM6)
_____
Gracias / Thank You
Thank you.
Posted by: Democrats Everywhere at April 26, 2016 10:39 PM (0LHZx)
I can't say "President Hillary Clinton" without throwing up in my mouth a little bit - but I honestly and truly think "President Donald Trump" will be worse. So, no. In a Clinton/Trump race I am not particularly invested in a "Clinton II" loss. I am invested in not having a vote for either on my conscience.
Either you guys will bring in the YUUUUGE numbers of new voters to replace folks like me or you won't.
Posted by: SparcVark at April 26, 2016 10:39 PM (YLLI8)
The sidebar video of the hecklers at last night's UMass talk with Milo, Christine Hoff-Somers and Steve Crowder are freakin scary - why don;t the speaker get to have a sfe space from gender-ambiguous psychos? That woman?trans? looked seriously unbalanced.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2016 10:39 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: x at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (nFwvY)
*****
I'm a little confused about this statement after reading your internet post.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:39 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:39 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 10:39 PM (8QGte)
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:35 PM (fk8ma)
If Trump does not get to 1237, it will be a contested convention and Cruz will win. Trump (and his supporters) can insist all they like that the GOPe will sneak in like the boogieman and make off with the nomination if we don't allow Trump to win, but it is just not the case.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:40 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:29 PM (zOTsN)
Yes, Fuck Yes. Perspective.
Posted by: ryukyu at April 26, 2016 10:40 PM (FuBZa)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:40 PM (DEJix)
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Never say never but it's hard to see how anybody but Trump can be the nominee without smoke-filled rooms old fashioned corruption. I will not vote for anyone who hasn't won the nomination and, Lion Ted, even though you were my favorite going in, you are now looking more and more like a backroom dirty deals kind of guy.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:40 PM (Nwg0u)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/zcjpj5r
In other words, he would choose to lose honorably, just like McCain and Romney did against Obama.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 26, 2016 10:40 PM (0OG8D)
Whinin' Don wins. It's been a shrewd campaign, but I don't know how ignoring Manafort and dismantling his state campaign in the swing states is going to help him in the general.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (vyXAs)
Says the woman who has told Tim in GA (IIRC) to "fuck you" twice.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (jVvcc)
We disagree here, my friend. Our country most certainly COULD be created--WAS created and the adherence to those bedrock precepts I mentioned allowed us to flourish and become that exceptional place.
The country is not "gone"--the perversions of it's governing must go.
We did not survive 240 years by being an ethereal entitythere is endurance and strength in this Republic--but it MUST be kept.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (DEJix)
Why are you commenting on a blog that's irrelevant? Oh, that's right. Because "Trumpkin".
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (nUJM6)
See here's the thing - I don't actively support Trump, in fact I hope somehow Cruz clobbers him. Likelihood of that happening is very low.
I'll vote for him in the general for two reasons; 1; stop the Left and 2; if Trump loses I don't want any complaining from the Trumpers about him not getting support.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (R5HRU)
Sadly if he wins he nomination I will hold my nose and pull the lever for him as he is far right of Bernie and slightly to the right of Slithery.
Posted by: Scuba Dude at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (YLciO)
Interesting times, interesting fucking times indeed.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (0LHZx)
Trump's been all over the place, but as of late he's mostly talked
about a market/competition across state lines approach, much like Cruz.
So, we'll see.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2016 10:23 PM (2rmvw)
Don't forget the individual mandate that he says has to stay and the universal health insurance (that the government will pay for) so that people won't be "dying on the sidewalks".
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:42 PM (nUJM6)
Thank you.
Posted by: Democrats Everywhere at April 26, 2016 10:39 PM (0LHZx)
Go Party? That's what it's about, right? No progressives! None!
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 10:42 PM (dx6bM)
Oh, and the women I know are very turned off by Trump and the #nevertrump numbers will grow and be yuuuge. Can you say Hillary 2016? I know you can!
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 10:42 PM (YwQCs)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:42 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:42 PM (pUDQf)
To me Trump is a step up from both McCain and Romney.
Posted by: Nah Brah at April 26, 2016 10:42 PM (fk8ma)
If Trump gets 1237, the rules say he gets the nomination?
Do you want some other hurdle put before him?
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:33 PM (MQEz6)
eman... you pretend not to understand (why you would bother, I don't know). 1237 means no contested convention and also that I will be voting third party. I am very obviously pulling for Trump to get
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (nUJM6)
I am not pretending anything.
It sounded to me like want Trump to get something more than 1237.
Looks like that is not so.
Posted by: eman at April 26, 2016 10:42 PM (MQEz6)
It's not that Trump is a liar. It's not that Trump is consistently inconsistent. His temperament along with nuclear codes makes me grimace
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2016 10:43 PM (voOPb)
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Just as a matter of curiosity, what does that beget one? I mean aside from some personal satisfaction. Does it 'punish' someone? Will the country be better off?
Is the country better off for any third party candidate that has ever run?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:43 PM (OLNwX)
I cannot in good conscience vote for abortion.
Posted by: Ralph at April 26, 2016 10:21 PM (r8Hiq)
Abortion isn't going away even if you vote for Jesus.
At least help get rid of the Hildebeast.
Posted by: Blano at April 26, 2016 10:43 PM (heN73)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (R5HRU)
Mostly 2)/at this point. I think Trump is the left.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 10:43 PM (dx6bM)
They already do. But he cuts through a lot of the shit.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:43 PM (vyXAs)
Donnie has never met David Brock and his army of sleaze
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2016 10:44 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:40 PM (Nwg0u)
If it goes to a second vote, it means Trump hasn't won either.
Posted by: The Convention Hat at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (vBeA5)
We did not survive 240 years by being an ethereal entitythere is endurance and strength in this Republic--but it MUST be kept.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (P/8aq)
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I wish I had your optimism. I really do. I have this debate with my wife all the time. I tell her, it's over, she gets mad and says basically what you're saying plus the "6 generations of my family didn't fight for this country just to see it self-implode". But you and she are just sticking your heads in the sand and hoping for a miracle. There isn't one. It's all about demographics. And demographics say America is finito. Yeah sure there will still be a country called USA, but it will be nothing like the one you grew up in.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (DEJix)
Well, Trump has never shown national secrets, so. That's something.
And Gary Johnson is an idiot.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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We should go long on mouth guards.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (OLNwX)
This person will be CIC. It can't be her
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (O2RFr)
Maybe 1 more anti trump screed will do the trick.
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:34 PM (DEJix)
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So fucking what--I've never really been concerned about being part of a trend or doing what's popular. I'm an individual, I'm the smallest minority there is.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:46 PM (2mC6G)
*shakes head in disgust*
WTF, buddy? You think Hillary Clinton - of all Democrats - won.t go negative?!?!?!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2016 10:46 PM (NOIQH)
783 Just today you inaccurately inferred that a Trump critic was an anti-Semite.
I would disagree with the inaccurate part of your comment.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 10:37 PM (WVsWD)
85 Awww, are you making fun of a foreign-sounding name?
How very Trumpian.
Posted by: Harun at April 26, 2016 05:36 PM (UBBWX)
Should we call you Aaron instead. Same thing but maybe a bit too Jewish for you?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Amatuer pschco, chaiatrist at April 26, 2016 05:39 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 26, 2016 10:46 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2016 10:46 PM (voOPb)
https://youtu.be/XRbZtCTzMg8
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 10:46 PM (k4M/B)
We did not survive 240 years by being an ethereal entitythere is endurance and strength in this Republic--but it MUST be kept.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (P/8aq)
The perversions have permeated the federal government, 2 large state governments, other state governments, the media, the courts, the universities and the public schools.
How do you plan to get rid of all that peacefully? Honest question, because I say it can't be done peacefully.
Posted by: Blano at April 26, 2016 10:47 PM (heN73)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:47 PM (vyXAs)
I'd hope what he means by that is getting Trump personal.
Telling the truth about her is plenty.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 10:47 PM (R5HRU)
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We have nothing to fear with Hillary Clinton in the White House.
Posted by: Ted Cruz, channeling John McCain at April 26, 2016 10:47 PM (fk8ma)
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Yeah, well, I'm still master of my own domain.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 26, 2016 10:47 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: cthulhu at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (O2RFr)
They won't have to work that hard. Just run nonstop footage of Trump's free style rally performances and run his Twitter feed for the last 10 months or so. Reads like a parody account.
Posted by: Daisy at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (vaFpc)
This person will be CIC. It can't be her
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (zOTsN)
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Yep. As much as you think Trump is a super duper lib,on this issue or that, nobody can deny he is patriotic. He wouldn't leave 4 people do die in Benghazi, he wouldn't bow to a Saudi prince, he wouldn't go on an apology tour, he wouldn't give Iran the bomb, etc.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (r9m+B)
I refer to my previous statement. No sold national security statements. Oh, and not total wide open borders.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (0LHZx)
I'm with you. It's over. Even Mark Levin almost admitted it tonight.
Posted by: Blano at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (heN73)
The country is not "gone"--the perversions of it's governing must go.
We did not survive 240 years by being an ethereal entitythere is endurance and strength in this Republic--but it MUST be kept.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (P/8aq)
No, it was not just created out of nothing. The ancient English libereties and the rule of law is what the colonists brought over, and what they fought to protect. Philosophical musings were the excuse and justification, but hardly integral.
The preserved... they conserved. They did not overthrow an old and evil order and spontaniously establish liberty.
To suggest otherwise is to push Intellegent Design with humans as God.
Posted by: The Historical Hat at April 26, 2016 10:49 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:49 PM (O2RFr)
You are only getting part of the conversation. Want to go back a bit. Maybe study a little bit of islamic history too. That might help.
Otherwise. You have a nice day Joe Hallenbeck.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 10:49 PM (WVsWD)
You just keep believing that and see where it gets you. I have the utmost confidence that you will be able to survive what will come. Do you? After all, blaming only one responsible party for the destruction doesn't stop the destruction.
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 10:50 PM (YwQCs)
stop the Left and 2; if Trump loses I don't want any complaining from
the Trumpers about him not getting support.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 10:41 PM (R5HRU)
Trump IS the left... why on earth would you expect Trump to stop them? NC bathrooms, bakers forced to bake cakes, criticizing Pam Geller for drawing mohammed event (http://www.salon.com/2015/05). Trump's instinctual positions are indistinguishable from any leftist.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:50 PM (nUJM6)
The Republic is in fact on shaky ground, though it has a lot of resiliency--it's ability to not veer off course is poor, it's ability to get back on track is probably not as bad. One day it might be just as poor, also. Things change, and nations fall. "Turn the page. Next chapter"
Mr. Trump will either win, or not win. Regardless of which quantum state materializes, the real work of shoring up the Republic will be done elsewhere, and probably most strongly and ably and most lasting if done where it should be done, in the little platoons. Donald Trump is just a man, and Hillary Clinton is just a woman. They will do their good or ill, as they will, because they reflect something larger, the American people. It is there, in that great mass, that the thing must be won, and it is a battle for our lifetimes. The spirit of the old America is flickering out. But as long as the pilot light keeps sputtering, the shining city upon the hill may yet burst forth anew. It is up to us to keep that lamp of liberty and popular sovereingty burning, and to provide the kindling, and the spark. It is up to the people to let the flames burst forth. It's their Republic. If they keep it.
"Sam: It's like in the great stories Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end it's only a passing thing this shadow, even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it'll shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you, that meant something even if you were too small to understand why. But I think Mr. Frodo, I do understand, I know now folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding on to something.
Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?
Sam: That there's some good in the world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for"
I bid you a good night.
Posted by: Tonight's True Treacle at April 26, 2016 10:50 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:50 PM (O2RFr)
He won every single county in every single state tonight.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 10:51 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:51 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:51 PM (Q44iK)
They won't have to work that hard. Just run nonstop footage of Trump's free style rally performances and run his Twitter feed for the last 10 months or so. Reads like a parody account.
Posted by: Daisy at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (vaFpc)
I'm kind of surprised at the off hand dismissal of the shit storm of daisy-cutter proportion that's coming Trump's way once it's him vs her. Trump's supporters seem to think Trump has had it tough so far.
In the immortal words of BTO, You Ain't Seen Nothin Yet...
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:51 PM (pUDQf)
So I can understand but disagree with people who feel that way about Trump. But it is a long time until Novmber...
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 26, 2016 10:52 PM (EZebt)
And Gary Johnson is an idiot.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (vyXAs)
Trump has never had the opportunity to do so.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:52 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: Splunge at April 26, 2016 10:52 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:50 PM (nUJM6)
I don't know anything about Trumps values tbh, I don't think anyone but he does. Dude flip flops on a lot of shit, which yes, is disturbing but he is a wild card. I'll take a wild card over Hilary.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 10:52 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:52 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Meremortal at April 26, 2016 10:52 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 26, 2016 10:53 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:53 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! with purchase of equal or greater value commenter at April 26, 2016 10:53 PM (Q44iK)
20 trillion in on the books debt with about 200 trillion of unfunded liabilities is a whole lotta ruin.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (WVvzl)
A Scoop Jackson type of Dem
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:51 PM (pUDQf)
You gotta put the stutter in Bama.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (nUJM6)
the more I saw the less I liked."
Gee, I've never heard a Trumpkin say that before. It's almost as if it's not a canned talking point or something.
"Time to unite around Trump and defeat
Hillary.
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (DEJix)"
Why? Who the fuck cares? They're both disgusting pieces of shit who belong in prison.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:45 PM (vyXAs)
Trump has never had the opportunity to do so."
Give him time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: gm at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (K0tm3)
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (0LHZx)
Perhaps "patriotic", but maybe not dutiful to the country and not reflective of the founding principles. So that's the bar? Just " loving" your country? Wow. You have let Barack Obama set the bar for you!
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (dx6bM)
I support Cruz, but I also suspect both candidates would have a steep hill to climb vs. Scrunt and her fawning MSFM.
And These aren't just the females at my church. These are older blue collar, younger educated, you name it. Trump may still win Indiana, but these woman hate him.
I pray that he wins because nobody could possibly be worse than HRC, but he'd better get to work.
Posted by: Cooldawg at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (DwvNG)
Posted by: x at April 26, 2016 10:55 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:43 PM (vyXAs)
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To true-believers, maybe. To people like me who know something about history, he doesn't do much, I do most of that work, myself.
The problem with Trump-ism is that it's an emotional wave that I see (I'll own it) a lot of it I have seen has the same caliber of argument as emotion-wave liberals. Trump is effective at reaching his base. His shtick doesn't fly with me. And it may not work on the equally-emotionally charged left, who have been on the shrill Alinskyan trail a lot longer than Trumpers who went ALINSKY no Cruz, isolating, polarizing,...not reading articles with a DAMN--quoting Alien Baby Weekly...ricocheting off of everything and giggling that their guy was winning and 1st in the polls.
I like Trump way more than Clinton. I was one of the first common defenders of Trump's candidacy, though preferring Walker. But his shtick is weak. And I estimate that his pander reflex is greater than what he's shown.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 10:55 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 26, 2016 10:55 PM (r9m+B)
rather see a real republican take on Hillary than some wannabe fake
republican"///
Define "fake republican." I would say that Cruz is every bit as much a fake republican as Trump. Cruz is/was Tea Party, but so was Rubio originally. Which one of them was fake? Obviously, Rubio was the authentic republican because of the gang of eight AMNESTY bill.
Trump and Cruz are both fake republicans because they are hated by the GOP establishment.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 26, 2016 10:55 PM (kfoLf)
We are really already boned. More debt than the world economy.
Heh.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:56 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (nUJM6)
Bbbbbb..banzai, you ain't seen nothin yet.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 10:56 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Blano at April 26, 2016 10:56 PM (heN73)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:57 PM (vyXAs)
And then vote for.....?
I'm in CA. so it doesn't matter...
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (O2RFr)
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nothing but a sandwich in that briefcase
Posted by: Kasich voter trying the newfangled lingo at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (Cq0oW)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (voOPb)
No... a nasty Hillary Clinton type of of Dem. You can't really believe after his behavior during this campaign that he won't be as bad as Obama in siccing various governmental agencies on anyone that crosses him (or, if you take him at his word in Iowa, is insufficiently supportive of giving corn growers our tax dollars to make a product that we are then forced to purchase).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (WVvzl)
For sure. Those aren't going to get paid. The question is, how. Kinda seems like the Fed is trying to spur massive inflation, for just that purpose and failing at it. What they are succeeding at is making sure the banks keep the money in government hands, rather than spreading it into the wider economy.
Posted by: Splunge at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (iMxBJ)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (vyXAs)
I will vote for anyone who will not do that
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (0LHZx)
Perhaps "patriotic", but maybe not dutiful to the country and not reflective of the founding principles. So that's the bar? Just " loving" your country? Wow. You have let Barack Obama set the bar for you!
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 10:54 PM (dx6bM)
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Compare his "love for country" with Hillary's. If you think they're the same you're a fool.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (k4M/B)
I don't think We have to worry about a Trump Presidency...
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (O2RFr)
lib,on this issue or that, nobody can deny he is patriotic.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:48 PM (0LHZx)
I sure as fuck can. He's a disgusting fucking narcissist who doesn't give a fuck about anything but his own self-aggrandizement.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 10:57 PM (vyXAs)
*****
The screechy, cankly ole Grandma with treason charges hanging over her if she loses?
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 10:59 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 26, 2016 10:53 PM (0O7c5)
Is it a picture of Hillary?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 10:59 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (O2RFr)
It will matter in the primary. In the general, not so much.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:59 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: NCKate at April 26, 2016 10:59 PM (O46jc)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:00 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: x at April 26, 2016 10:36 PM (nFwvY)
Mickey: "Hey, listen, what happened?"
AD: "It was a knockout"
Mickey: "What round? What round?" [Mickey smiles]
AD: "Second round"
[struggles to laugh with joy as he believes Cruz won] Mickey: "Yeah, I knew it. That's good. We did it, huh?"
Mickey: "We did everything right. I did everything right..."
AD: "No, no, listen. We ain't done everything right. Listen, we still got more to do. Mick, whatever you want to do, we'll do it, okay?"
Mickey: "I love you, kid."
Mickey: "I love you..."
Posted by: AD at April 26, 2016 11:00 PM (QuixQ)
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (bQxkN)
Actually, I don't have butt hurt either... Neither of the remaining Candidates "float" My boat so to speak... I really wanted Walker...
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:50 PM (nUJM6)
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I did not like Geller's event in the least. I would be the last person to say that she invited violence on herself. All those people crying about what Cruz said off the cuff (when he first blamed the Obama administration and took MAJOR heat for that), doesn't compare to Trump saying that Geller shouldn't be able to use the same rights that brought us an NEA grant for Piss Christ, without violence, was asking for trouble.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (2mC6G)
Blano, in order to right things, the effort MUST begin at the very basic level--the dog catcher level,if you will.
In the town council, schoolboard, local politics,all flows from this.
Think of it as our long march through the institutions,doing to the progressive left what they have done to us.
That is the political solution and I do not know how long it will take. Just that it must be done,and we can also do whatever we can no matter how insignificant it may seem.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (P/8aq)
No. It's of Ted looking heavenward and shaking his fist. ELIMINATED.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (jVvcc)
Yup.... Great Candidates.... Either way We are screwed....
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (vyXAs)
907 EliminaTED -- Drudge
RedB hardest hit
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (bQxkN)
Cleveland. Trump hardest hit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (pUDQf)
If we had dropped a few trillion from helicopters we'd be better off
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (bQxkN)
Posted by: donna at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (O2RFr)
I don't either... he will either lose at a contested convention or he will lose the general. I guess I should have said if...
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:03 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (0LHZx)
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Yes, it does look like it's all going to take a visit from the Gods of the Copybook Headings and not the Cat in the Hat to put stuff back in place.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:03 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (0LHZx)
Barry has done exactly what he wanted to do. Tear down and tear apart every bit of this country - militarily, economically, socially. Good job to the rat bastards who elected a raging anti-American as president
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (45oDG)
That may be coming.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (vyXAs)
****
You are responding to an Ira like troll.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (0LHZx)
It's time to grow up and act like adults.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 26, 2016 11:01 PM (bQxkN)
Tim in Illinois... are you still puzzled?
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 11:05 PM (zOTsN)
be the last person to say that she invited violence on herself. All
those people crying about what Cruz said off the cuff (when he first
blamed the Obama administration and took MAJOR heat for that), doesn't
compare to Trump saying that Geller shouldn't be able to use the same
rights that brought us an NEA grant for Piss Christ, without violence, was asking for trouble.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:02 PM (2mC6G)
But Trump said to Ban All The Muslims right after he wanted to let in all the refugees. He's the only one who really gets it!
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 11:05 PM (CFl8c)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (nUJM6)
Thats an "over the top" personal attack?
Are you kidding me or what?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 11:05 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (R5HRU)
Trump can go first.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (nUJM6)
*****
After the posts you have sent to me, I sure am.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: william at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (JMJJs)
http://minx.cc:1080/?post=320680
(Feel free to comment on that thread, btw, new commenters.)
Pam's response for equal time reasons:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/jumgbk7
Posted by: andycanuck at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (jVvcc)
You can't really believe after his behavior during this campaign that he won't be as bad as Obama in siccing various governmental agencies on anyone that crosses him
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I'm counting on the GOPe in its anti-Trumpist fury to prevent that.
Posted by: iforgot at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: Meremortal at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (R5HRU)
thathalfrican... I am not going to vote for a progressive even if they get the nom from the R's.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: James T Kirk at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (0LHZx)
I'm no fool and I won't be duped.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: iforgot at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (5o5ek)
They'll be more anti-Trump then they'd ever be anti-Barry
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (zOTsN)
Well, you're gonna have to do one or the other. Or not bitch.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (vyXAs)
We may have to drag him there kicking and screaming. And if he doesn't? I doubt he wins the presidency and he'll probably "go away(his words not mine)".
Then we can have the all out flame war of "I told you so's" and "GFY you never wanted Trump in the WH anyway!"
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (R5HRU)
I think you have to understand where Rubio was coming with that: he thought he would be the one to sell conservatism to them. Its not so crazy as his backstory and language skill would work.
Harper in Canada managed to pull immigrants to the conservatives by being more immigrant friendly, so this is not impossible.
That all said, I think rule of law issue made it impossible here - too many years of lack of rule of law and enforcement.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 10:58 PM (0LHZx)
I'm no fool and I won't be duped.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (dx6bM)
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OK vote for Hillary then. Whatever.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (0LHZx)
Then you give the Left even greater control.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (R5HRU)
Are you kidding me or what?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 11:05 PM (WVsWD)
No that was just incivility and assholeishness.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (R5HRU)
It's time to grow up and act like adults.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (R5HRU)
Tee-hee
Posted by: #AlwaysMarco at April 26, 2016 11:09 PM (dx6bM)
They'll be more anti-Trump then they'd ever be anti-Barry
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM (45oDG)
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Yup. And more than they'd ever be anti-Hillary.
Posted by: iforgot at April 26, 2016 11:09 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (R5HRU)
IF Trump gets the nom, the Left will have control whoever wins.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:09 PM (nUJM6)
____
**LEGAL** immigrant friendly
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:09 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Meremortal at April 26, 2016 11:07 PM
& they mostly seem to show up on primary / debate nights...mostly
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 26, 2016 11:09 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (nUJM6)
In which you have spew plenty yourself.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 11:09 PM (WVsWD)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 11:10 PM (zOTsN)
Trump already said he could make deals. Trust me, these people will all become Trump supporters.
The only never trump people will be those with strong principles. The establishment doesn't have those, as we all know.
Keep in mind, we are now seeing that most voters don't have strong free market, liberty-based principles.
A republic, if you can keep it.
Caesar was loved by all - he could get stuff done!
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:10 PM (dZQh7)
He is running to the Left of Hillary, for crying out loud.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 11:10 PM (8QGte)
I've got a 308 Palma Remington 40Xb with a trigger so light that all I have to do is think"pull" and it fires.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at April 26, 2016 11:10 PM (kfoLf)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (nUJM6)
*****
Wow. You exhibit some real Sociopathic tendencies. Chief among them is to rationalize that what you are doing is RIGHT, because reasons.
What everyone else is doing is WRONG, because reasons you define.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:10 PM (YLidQ)
Someone has to oppose Hillary's plans.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:11 PM (dZQh7)
Nobody knows that for sure. I'm with Prager, dudes a straight up wild card.
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:11 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: iforgot at April 26, 2016 11:06 PM (5o5ek)
You would think everyone would have learned by now not to count on them for anything.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:11 PM (nUJM6)
They don't have a clue as to what day of the week it is
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 26, 2016 11:11 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (0LHZx)
Writing in "Ted Cruz" or going Libertarian to show the GOP, if it still exists, what they need to do to get muly vote.
Enough of this big government shit.
Posted by: #AlwaysMarco at April 26, 2016 11:11 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 26, 2016 11:11 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 26, 2016 11:12 PM (vyXAs)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:12 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 26, 2016 11:12 PM (zOTsN)
Trump IS the left.
He is running to the Left of Hillary, for crying out loud.
Posted by: navybrat
I have to admit I've never heard that before.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 26, 2016 11:12 PM (k4M/B)
Yes, this is very important. Canada doesn't have many illegals because they have a competent government that enforces the law.
This another reason I get people liking Trump. Basic governmental incompetence has been rising.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:13 PM (dZQh7)
I think you have to understand where Rubio was coming with that: he thought he would be the one to sell conservatism to them.
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Kills me how deluded that guy was. Latinos already ARE conservative -- but they vote Democrat in droves. He should have converted the existing ones before trying to import tens of millions of socialists.
Posted by: iforgot at April 26, 2016 11:13 PM (5o5ek)
Posted by: AltonJackson at April 26, 2016 11:13 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (dx6bM)
Remember Presidents Dole, McCain, Romney? Me neither.
Posted by: Vodka at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (xKQ1K)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (jVvcc)
Trump wants higher taxes on the rich and taxes on US companies who invert overseas.
He also wants to stop free trade more than Hillary. That is farther left than Hillary. Hillary has never mentioned 45% tariffs, for example.
You may think that is "right wing" but its not: its planned economy, no free trade is just like price controls or other rules against voluntary exchange.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:08 PM (nUJM6)
In which you have spew plenty yourself.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 11:09 PM (WVsWD)
No... no I don't. Until personally attacked, I try very hard to keep it on topic and not personal. I did not name Ignoramous in a post first (although now that he lobbed the first bomb, I will say he is a prime example of what I was talking about in my answer to sexypig).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (CFl8c)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:04 PM (R5HRU)
Trump would do well to follow that advice.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 11:16 PM (ztrrs)
Debt to GDP was hovering around 50-54 pct until one George W Bush the compassionate conservative entered the White house.
Debt to GDP went from 57pct to 82.4pct under him or an increase of 25.4 basis points under the SCOAMF it's gone from 82.4 pct to 108pct or an increase of 25.6 basis points.
But here's the kicker, the GOP has had control of the power of the purse for 12 of those 16 years.
So our tremendous debt falls squarely on the backs of the GOP.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 26, 2016 11:16 PM (WVvzl)
Still farther to the Right than the GOPe
Posted by: Outside The Box at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (ShdUd)
Again... no he is not. They at least aren't pandering to trannies.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:16 PM (nUJM6)
Yes, but he was in for a decent spell, and did some major things: regulatory budgets, simplifying environmental approvals, etc.
Trudeau is so smug he affects the USA.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:17 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2016 11:17 PM (kTF2Z)
Really?
Just have a seat over there. The doctor will be right with you.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 11:17 PM (8QGte)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 26, 2016 11:12 PM (0LHZx)
And you seem to really dig that. Fuck that "choice".
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:17 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: Vodka at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (xKQ1K)
Nope, and nobody will ever remember President Trump either, because he's going to get crushed in the worst landslide in history.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 11:18 PM (ztrrs)
Really?
Just have a seat over there. The doctor will be right with you.
Posted by: navybrat at April 26, 2016 11:17 PM (8QGte)
He's either a panderer (making deals with people) or a Progressive.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 26, 2016 11:16 PM (ztrrs)
Too late... he can't un-be what he is.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:15 PM (nUJM6)
*****
Yeah, about that. Your past posts to me tell me that what you have written above is utter bullshit.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: thathalfrican - failure is not an option at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (dx6bM)
Sorry, other possibility is both.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (dx6bM)
New York is going for Hillary regardless of who is on the Reoublican ticket and regardless of who women hate. Here in Texas the women can't stand Trump. Trump needs Texas. Oh well!
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 11:21 PM (YwQCs)
Everyone has their strategy.
I think Rubio would have won the general, but he could not win the primary, so he was stuck.
Schumer rolled him and it stuck.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:21 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:22 PM (2mC6G)
I refer to it as a "Lone Ranger Tan". Like all the skiers have after wearing their sunglasses on the slopes.
Posted by: Paladin at April 26, 2016 10:26 PM (r6vt4)
Its that spray on stuff that makes Boehner so orange. You can tell because of the outline of the little, tiny goggles they make you wear. Skiers have bigger goggles and bigger circles around their eyes.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:23 PM (nUJM6)
is on the Reoublican ticket and regardless of who women hate. Here in
Texas the women can't stand Trump. Trump needs Texas. Oh well!
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 11:21 PM (YwQCs)
It'll be a great moral victory when Trump loses NY by 15% instead of 20% after Hillary's landslide.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 11:23 PM (CFl8c)
Schumer rolled him and it stuck.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:21 PM (dZQh7)
I agree that if Rubio were not for amnesty, he could have won. Schumer did not roll him though... that is what Rubio really believes.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:24 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:25 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 09:59 PM (nUJM6)
"Trumpster" is that some form of endearment or an insult? What ever you say, I'll take your word for it.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 11:26 PM (WVsWD)
Good news is he's +3 in Mississippi
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:25 PM (dZQh7)
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He's losing his AZ to Hillary?
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:26 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (dx6bM)
Sorry, other possibility is both.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (dx6bM)
My thought exactly...those traits are not binary for Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:27 PM (nUJM6)
If it wasn't for John Edwards cheating on his wife while she was dying of cancer, I think we could very easily declare Trump the worst person to run for president in this decade, and even compared to Edwards it's close.
Posted by: cjw at April 26, 2016 11:28 PM (7SQMF)
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:22 PM (2mC6G)
Maybe it will finally show people not to elect a RINO. The sanctimonious " rock-ribbed conservatives" who are reveling in the destruction of the GOP can revel in that.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:29 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:27 PM (nUJM6)
*****
There are a couple of unanswered posts to you up above. I'm sure it was just and oversight on your part. Would you care to address them?
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:29 PM (YLidQ)
I've got a feeling the press may try to attack Trump surrogates rather than Trump himself.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:29 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (dx6bM)
Sorry, other possibility is both.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (dx6bM)
My thought exactly...those traits are not binary for Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:27 PM (nUJM6)
In Trump's defense, he's likely even less aware of what a Progressive is than he is of a Conservative.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 26, 2016 11:31 PM (CFl8c)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:20 PM (YLidQ
You are lying. Every time we have gotten into it, YOU posted a person attack first. Even then, I did not personally attack you... I just VERY STRONGLY, explicitly and vulgarly told you to step off and leave me alone.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:31 PM (nUJM6)
Don't think we didn't notice
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 11:31 PM (DEJix)
I've got a feeling the press may try to attack Trump surrogates rather than Trump himself.
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:29 PM (dZQh7)
What about Manafort and the Cayman Islands?
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:32 PM (nUJM6)
-John F. Kennedy
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 11:33 PM (DEJix)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:31 PM (nUJM6)
*****
Well, of course. Because every refutation of what you spoke just has to be a despicable lie. Because reasons. And TRUTH.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:33 PM (YLidQ)
and his associated meltdowns gave cover to the commentary to disrespect
Trump supporters.
Don't think we didn't notice
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 11:31 PM (DEJix)
Stop treating attacks on Trump as attacks on yourself, and you won't feel disrespected.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:34 PM (nUJM6)
I posted at #800 that Cruz has come right out and promised more of the same, as far as general elections go. He swore that he would not go after Hillary with anything like the ferocity with which he's attacked Trump.
He basically promised to lose honorably in the general, just like McCain and Romney did against Obama.
I'd rather take my chances with the guy who has already dared to attack Hillary as fiercely as he's attacked his fellow Republicans, and that guy is Donald Trump.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 26, 2016 11:34 PM (0OG8D)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-campaign-chief-ducks-questions-about-214020365.html
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:35 PM (dZQh7)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 11:31 PM (DEJix)
Dave, he's probably frustrated as I am that with the weakest FDem candidate in a while, we could've actually had Ted Cruz (deemed "archconservative" by him) to start destroying things.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:36 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:33 PM (YLidQ)
No... because instead of discussing issues, you feel the need to put my name and personal insults against me in your posts. You push and push until I tell you to fuck off and yet you still keep pushing.
It is bullying and stupid and normal behavior for you (at least here... I truly hope you do not treat people that way in real world)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:37 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:38 PM (dZQh7)
No, now he has to be "presidential."
Posted by: sexypig at April 26, 2016 11:40 PM (dZQh7)
promised more of the same, as far as general elections go. He swore that
he would not go after Hillary with anything like the ferocity with
which he's attacked Trump.
He basically promised to lose honorably in the general, just like McCain and Romney did against Obama.
I'd
rather take my chances with the guy who has already dared to attack
Hillary as fiercely as he's attacked his fellow Republicans, and that
guy is Donald Trump.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 26, 2016 11:34 PM (0OG8D)
No... he promised to make this election about the issues. And you do remember that Hillary and Trump are pals don't you? He is not goint to attack her should he get to the general (should he not get to the general, he will be campaigning for her).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:40 PM (nUJM6)
Tim thinks the whole passive aggressive shtick is endearing and not condescending or in anyway attacking someone. Plus he thinks Trump is a shoe in. Poor thing.
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 11:41 PM (YwQCs)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 26, 2016 11:34 PM (0OG
I think Trump is "more of the same". Cruz may be offering more than the same, but I think he may actually get results.
What did turn me off is the Kultur War. I'm on board with pro-life, but I think the tranny thing was an overreaction to something that people probably aren't that concerned about. I believe in the preservation of religious liberty, but the religious programs turn me off. Indiana RFRA is strong and good, but NC made a mistake.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:42 PM (dx6bM)
It is bullying and stupid and normal behavior for you (at least here... I truly hope you do not treat people that way in real world)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:37 PM (nUJM6)
****
I tried discussing issues for months. Surprisingly, that did not work out well. So, I decided to snark instead. Which will be my default position until at least July, when Trump is the Nominee, or possibly until early November, when he wins it. Deal with it, Sweetcheeks.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:42 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 11:43 PM (WVsWD)
Longing for the good 'ol days? Kennedy was another corrupt politician with many personal weaknesses. Your kind of guy I guess.
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 11:43 PM (YwQCs)
Posted by: Ralph at April 26, 2016 11:42 PM (r8Hiq)
Are you doing a summoning? Cause if so, all you have to do is yell "yo, banzai" and I will answer.
If this is about redbenghazi, I LOL'ed
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:44 PM (nUJM6)
Congrats, President Trump!!!
To be fair, Cruz does well as long as no actual voters are voting.
Posted by: Votey McVoteface at April 26, 2016 11:45 PM (aQZgF)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 11:46 PM (DEJix)
No... he promised to make this election about the issues. And you do remember that Hillary and Trump are pals don't you? He is not goint to attack her should he get to the general (should he not get to the general, he will be campaigning for her).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:40 PM (nUJ
Hillary's negatives are already low and he does not need his "anti-women" philosophy being magnified in the eyes of voters by attacking "Grandma".
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:47 PM (dx6bM)
I'd rather take my chances with the guy who has already dared to attack Hillary as fiercely as he's attacked his fellow Republicans, and that guy is Donald Trump.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 26, 2016 11:34 PM (0OG8D)
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Really? "Nasty" Ted Cruz would do that? I think you overread that. Trump's going to go negative. He doesn't seem to know anything more than throwing everything at his opponents. But Cruz could easily debate Hillary on policy and drive home some points. I predict that Trump will land some points, he usually does, but he has to watch out that in the world of emotionalized voters that Dems and Trump appeals to, that he doesn't screw the pooch and come off like...say....nasty Ted Cruz (a "nasty, nasty guy", btw). That doesn't say he's going to say "either one of us would make fine presidents"--and if you think Cruz was the "next guy in line" as GOP SOP, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:47 PM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 11:47 PM (YwQCs)
that did not work out well. So, I decided to snark instead. Which will
be my default position until at least July, when Trump is the Nominee,
or possibly until early November, when he wins it. Deal with it,
Sweetcheeks.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:42 PM (YLidQ)
Then consider my fuck off to be understood and permanent and don't answer my posts. What you do is not snark, it's obnoxious picking.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:47 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:48 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:47 PM (nUJM
Dude, this is Ace of Spades
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:49 PM (dx6bM)
Have you forgotten Lena Dunham saying, "Trump is right, isn't he? Eww, I don't know if I could really support Hillary now."
And when a Republican says, "this race is gonna be all about the issues and stuff", that is indeed a preemptive surrender. Here in Colorado, Bob Beauprez made a pact with John Hickenlooper that the 2014 gubernatorial election would be all about the issues and nothing "negative". Hickenlooper then felt free to go negative all over the place, because Beauprez had promised not to reciprocate. So, of course, Beauprez lost. But at least he lost honorably, huh?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 26, 2016 11:49 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:48 PM (dx6bM)
Just not as high as Trump's.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:49 PM (nUJM6)
Some of us here expected that Trump would be the presumptive nominee by around now. We also expect Trump to have a great shot at beating Hillary, and far better than Cruz. YMMV, but we've been right so far.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 26, 2016 11:49 PM (bQxkN)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:48 PM (dx6bM)
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Donald's are higher in any article I've seen.
Posted by: Axeman at April 26, 2016 11:50 PM (2mC6G)
Haven't been around very long?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Incoming!!! More Incoming!! at April 26, 2016 11:43 PM (WVsWD)
*****
Wow. Been here for years. I have heard the aggressive description applied. Not the passive part.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:50 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 26, 2016 11:49 PM (0OG8D)
Do you honestly think Lena Dunham is going to vote for anyone but Hillary?
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:51 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 11:52 PM (DEJix)
Because he has no issues or ideas, it's natural that his supporters would take any attack on him as an attack on themselves, because there's nothing to his campaign BUT him as a person and the faith they have chosen to put in him for whatever reason.
Posted by: cjw at April 26, 2016 11:52 PM (7SQMF)
Posted by: Whippet at April 26, 2016 11:52 PM (YwQCs)
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 26, 2016 11:49 PM (bQxkN)
That seems like sound logic
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:53 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:47 PM (nUJM6)
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You don't understand how this whole public "blog" thing works, do you? When you make a post I would like to respond to, I will do so.
The alternative is to create your own private blog, where you and the 4 of your spittle flecked followers can post whatever crap you want, privately.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:54 PM (YLidQ)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:49 PM (dx6bM)
I know whose establishment I am in... not sure what that has to do with me expressing my (strongly worded) wish that Tim not unleash his vitriol on me?
And its dudette:-P
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:55 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: David Silver at April 26, 2016 11:52 PM (DEJix)
I was referring more to redbanzai castigating Tim in G
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:55 PM (dx6bM)
thing works, do you? When you make a post I would like to respond to, I
will do so.
The alternative is to create your own private blog, where you and
the 4 of your spittle flecked followers can post whatever crap you want,
privately.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:54 PM (YLidQ)
Then don't be shocked when you are told to step off and don't lie that you haven't started this shit in every instance.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:58 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:55 PM (dx6bM)
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The attempt was there, but hopefully she learned she can create her own safe space rather than counting on finding it it here. Especially after the epic losses of her candidate tonight.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:58 PM (YLidQ)
Point is that there is less to gain for Cruz by attacking Hillary directly. But, I guess people want red meat and bluster. No results. Same shit.
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:59 PM (dx6bM)
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:58 PM (YLidQ
My candidate too. I have a problem with yours, but not you.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:00 AM (dx6bM)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 11:58 PM (nUJM6)
*****
You have no free will? Jesus Christ. Youmtell me to fuck off, and somehow I made you do it? If I have that kind of power over you, I command that you vote Trump. Now, will that work out? See the point?
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 27, 2016 12:01 AM (YLidQ)
can create her own safe space rather than counting on finding it it
here. Especially after the epic losses of her candidate tonight.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 26, 2016 11:58 PM (YLidQ)
Tomorrow is another day and Trump has not won yet (and hopefully never will).
Your nastiness in small part mirrored by every Trump supporter who acts like you do and multiplied by Trump's own bullying ugliness will be part of the reason Trump loses even if he wins.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:01 AM (nUJM6)
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:02 AM (dx6bM)
But, she has a lot of followers on Twitter. And, in putting out that tweet, she legitimized Trump as a candidate to those followers. I think a good number of them will remember that tweet, and support Trump over Hillary in the general as a result.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 27, 2016 12:02 AM (0OG8D)
#1048 Feelings. Feelings destroy all logic. It's like the girls who like bad boys and when thiose bad boys turn out to be bad boys after all, they keep going back cause they like bad boys. Trump has every characteristic of someone who should never be near the Presidency. Close similarities to Obama with his liberal unconstitutional tendencies, his narcissistic personality, being incredibly thin-skinned and childish in his actions. But he says things that make Trumpers "feel" good. No matter that he has shown no evidence he will actually do what he says. Trump trumps the reality.
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:04 AM (YwQCs)
Posted by: West Town at April 26, 2016 11:53 PM (dx6bM)
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Actually, it sounds kind of not. This is something that any fanatic backer of a nominee could claim. A fanataic Romneyan could have claimed this in 2012. Would that have made Romney any more likely to win the presidency, if that Romneyan assured you "I've been right so far". Any member of a so-far winning faction can claim the same thing.
Me, I voted for Cruz--and it was never part of any prediction that Cruz would win. They were two separated things. I tend not to like to make predictions, because I don't want to have to defend how I "know the future". Somebody who bundles those two things together: preference + prediction is very likely missing the bias factor.
And lastly, remember last time that the Romneyans were promoting that everybody should cast their vote in the primary for Romney, because "he can win"? Well, the proof of that is not in somebody's backing the predominant winner-so-far or their adamant belief that he will, the proof of that is in winning.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 12:06 AM (2mC6G)
fuck off, and somehow I made you do it? If I have that kind of power
over you, I command that you vote Trump. Now, will that work out? See
the point?
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 27, 2016 12:01 AM (YLidQ)
I could choose to leave (not going to happen) or ignore you I suppose. But why should you be able to attack people without being told that you are straight wrong?
And why should I have to ignore your personal attacks as if your behavior is normal?
I suppose I could wait for you to slip way over the line until Ace bans you but again why should I.
I repeat, if you cannot engage on the issues, do not try and engage with me. Grow up.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:08 AM (nUJM6)
I am sorry to inform that he sometimes says thing that appear to be anti-woman. (I'm a guy, so I don't always 'get' that, but apparently women do.)
Trump is always, always off the cuff and winging it, which is sometimes exciting and fun, and other times he re-tweets white nationalists or Heidi Cruz photos.
This part will be enjoyable.
The not so fun part will be watching Trump veer left.
I predict "break up the banks" and a $16 minimum wage. (OK, maybe not the wage, because he has his own interests there.)
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:08 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:09 AM (dZQh7)
I should've said: "that seems like sound logic, Ignoramus"
The "we were right in this situation and we'll be right for a different one"/must be a fallacy.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:09 AM (dx6bM)
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:10 AM (dZQh7)
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Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:08 AM (dZQh7)
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Hey, but I heard from a Trumper today that Heidi had said some things against Trump, so that tweet was justified...or something.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 12:11 AM (2mC6G)
I voted Cruz. I wanted the moonshot vs a.deeply flawed Dem. Now, its just more of the same.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:11 AM (dx6bM)
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:04 AM (YwQCs)
For the sake of all the non-Trump supporters, I hope the Trump supporters never have to learn that reality is a bitch and will enforce herself eventually.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:11 AM (nUJM6)
And why should I have to ignore your personal attacks as if your behavior is normal?
I suppose I could wait for you to slip way over the line until Ace bans you but again why should I.
I repeat, if you cannot engage on the issues, do not try and engage with me. Grow up.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:08 AM (nUJM6)
****
Please quote any "attack" post by date and number, or retract at once.
Posted by: Tim in GA at April 27, 2016 12:12 AM (YLidQ)
Trump '16
Posted by: David Silver at April 27, 2016 12:12 AM (DEJix)
I predict "break up the banks" and a $16 minimum wage. (OK, maybe not the wage, because he has his own interests there.)
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:08 AM (dZQh7)
I will enjoy his fans trying to explain if away as "redefining" Conservatism.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:13 AM (dx6bM)
I view Cruz's pledge to focus on the issues and not go negative on Hillary as a promise to do exactly what McCain and Romney did against Obama.
I'll take the guy who's already dished out some effective attacks on Hillary over the guy who's promised to be nothing more than a speedbump for the Hillary campaign, thank you very much.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 27, 2016 12:13 AM (0OG8D)
You'd like that wouldn't you? Sorry, no can do. Keep dreaming about that wall though!
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:14 AM (YwQCs)
said some things against Trump, so that tweet was justified...or
something.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 12:11 AM (2mC6G)
Also she worked for Goldman Sachs and sat on the Council of Foreign Relations which makes her way worse than the kleptocrat who actually personally benefited from taxpayer subsidies/bailouts and whose chief security adviser heads up the Council of Foreign Relations.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:15 AM (nUJM6)
And Trumps wife/ex-wives? pillars of society for sure!
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 12:16 AM (O2RFr)
Bringing the issues to the table will only work if you can articulate a position to some people who may not agree with you at first. He was able to bring it to the forefront because he has such high reach. It's brute force.
Im leaning toward just whatever "R" it is and your attempts to reconcile are noble, but it's tough when I just see more of the same coming through. Or, any remnants of actual Conservatism (or classical liberalism) being pushed into oblivion.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:18 AM (dx6bM)
#NeverTrump
Posted by: David Silver at April 27, 2016 12:19 AM (DEJix)
putting out that tweet, she legitimized Trump as a candidate to those
followers. I think a good number of them will remember that tweet, and
support Trump over Hillary in the general as a result.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 27, 2016 12:02 AM (0OG8D)
LOL... no, they won't. They follow LENA DUNHAM. That requires a level of liberal craziness that guarantees that they reflexively vote Democratic.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:19 AM (nUJM6)
Council of Foreign Relations which makes her way worse than the
kleptocrat who actually personally benefited from taxpayer
subsidies/bailouts and whose chief security adviser heads up the Council
of Foreign Relations.
And Trumps wife/ex-wives? pillars of society for sure!
Posted by: donna at April 27, 2016 12:16 AM (O2RFr)
That was /sarc, Donna. Just pointing out the lack of consistency in some people's thinking.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:21 AM (nUJM6)
#NeverTrump
Posted by: David Silver at April 27, 2016 12:19 AM (DEJix)
Tee-hee
Posted by: #AlwaysMarco at April 27, 2016 12:22 AM (dx6bM)
Yeah, Trumps a real ball buster alright. I wonder what childish name he'll make up for her or if he'll go after her disgusting eating habits. The only leaders names he knows are the obvious ones. Hillary knows the names of the people who wipe those leaders asses. He will look like the cartoonish clown that he is against her. He knows nothing but childish attacks. And his brain is so big he just doesn't have to learn a thing. It's like watching a really bad comedy. But the joke is on his supporters and the rest of us who have to suffer the fools.
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:22 AM (YwQCs)
supposed lack of policy issues being discussed. If he wasn't in the race
illegal immigration and trade would not be the focal point that they've
become so thanks for the concern but it's time to unite.
Trump '16
Posted by: David Silver at April 27, 2016 12:12 AM (DEJix)
If there's one positive thing Trump has brought into the political arena, it's his focus on the issues.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2016 12:22 AM (CFl8c)
Why is it a mistake to protect little girls from being exposed to man-parts, or women from being unnecessarily endangered by dudes pretending to be transgender (assuming anyone would risk being burned at the stake for asking in the first place)?
Besides which, its the coordinated pressure and blackmail by the political, media, and economic powers in this country that is most disturbing to me, and a "conservative" movement (either Trumpian or GOPe) that is unwilling to support North Carolina against that onslaught is useless as a force against the left. The NRA didn't achieve success by strategically surrendering.
Not trying to be hostile, I just honestly don't get why you oppose the North Carolina law.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 27, 2016 12:23 AM (KF8B+)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 27, 2016 12:13 AM (0OG8D)
1. Trump Gets Elected
2.????????
3. Conservative governance
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:24 AM (dx6bM)
go negative on Hillary as a promise to do exactly what McCain and Romney
did against Obama.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 27, 2016 12:13 AM
And I don't since Cruz is an actual conservative who can actually beat the pants off Hillary (figuratively... cause literally would be just ewww) on the issues.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:24 AM (nUJM6)
Maybe Lena can write some new grown up material for Trump.
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:24 AM (YwQCs)
"I will enjoy his fans trying to explain if away as "redefining" Conservatism."
News flash. 'CONSERVATISM' DOESN'T WORK AS A POLITICAL STRATEGY. OUTER PARTY ACTIVISM IS NOT EFFECTIVE AGAINST AN INNER PARTY, EVEN WHEN THAT PARTY OPENLY CRIMINAL. PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR REPUBLICAN FRIENDS.
"A fanataic Romneyan could have claimed this in 2012."
Implying that anyone here or elsewhere was ever truly a 'fanatic' for Romney, any more than they were 'fanatics' for McCain.
"How can Trump voters even pretend that his campaign is about issues?
What could they possibly debate? The only two things he's been
relatively firm on are a wall he cannot possibly build,"
Pretty sure he's not going to build it himself, he's the type to hire some guys.
"and raising
tariffs, the latter of which is basically an indefensible position."
Those debates have been literally taking place among Trump supporters and the wider community not more than a day or two ago:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/04/on-question-of-free-trade.html
"Everything else about his campaign is a mish-mash of personal bravado,
appeals to those who want to "burn it all down","
The 'burn it all down' people aren't Trump's guys, they're Cruz people. They think his general nastiness and inability to make friends will lead him to destroying the government through complete intransingence-whereas in reality they will all unite against him at the first sign of trouble.
"vague assurances that
he'll throw money at poor white communities,"
"Bringing jobs back" is "throwing money," mmmhmmm...
"and the occasional
dogwhistle."
How could you have heard the dog whistle if you weren't racist yourself?
"I mean, he hasn't spent 10 seconds thinking about a single
issue."
He's spent much more than that thinking about the issues that matter:
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/04/trump-discouraging-transplant-ism-dont.html
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:25 AM (61Gds)
supposed lack of policy issues being discussed. If he wasn't in the race
illegal immigration and trade would not be the focal point that they've
become so thanks for the concern but it's time to unite.
Posted by: David Silver at April 27, 2016 12:12 AM (DEJix)
Bullshit. Illegal immigration was already being discussed nonstop. Trump, like the filthy parasite he is, cynically latched onto it because he's a disgusting narcissist who has to make everything about himself, and now public opinion has shifted decisively against deportation and a border fence because Trump is disgusting and people are embarrassed to be on the same side as him. He has actually succeeded in destroying immigration as an issue for conservatives to run on because every fucking thing has to be all about him.
As far as uniting: Trump and all his sycophants in "conservative" media who propagandized on his behalf and destroyed conservatism with their filthy cultism can unite to suck my cock and lick my ballsack.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 27, 2016 12:26 AM (ztrrs)
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 27, 2016 12:23 AM (KF8B+)
I suspect whoever wrote that is going off press reports of the NC law and doesn't actually know what is in it.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:27 AM (nUJM6)
Not trying to be hostile, I just honestly don't get why you oppose the North Carolina law.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 27, 2016 12:23 AM (KF8B+)
I understand, but I don't think it should've been showcased so prominently as Cruz went into the Northeast. At that point, it seemed like Cruz was trying to grab anything.
Unfortunately, Cruz is principled, so he will speak on those things. It's not "He Fights", but " Wow, that guy has balls". Though, that last phrase is funny, given the context.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:29 AM (dx6bM)
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:29 AM (YwQCs)
showcased so prominently as Cruz went into the Northeast. At that
point, it seemed like Cruz was trying to grab anything.
Unfortunately, Cruz is principled, so he will speak on those things.
It's not "He Fights", but " Wow, that guy has balls". Though, that
last phrase is funny, given the context.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:29 AM (dx6bM)
Actual principle is so very rare and never unfortunate.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:31 AM (nUJM6)
I suspect whoever wrote that is going off press reports of the NC law and doesn't actually know what is in it.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:27 AM (nUJM6)
Fair point, but that kind of speaks to where it is with regard to my priorities right now. Like dismantling some of the government.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:31 AM (dx6bM)
Because your blogpost suggests that was rat move on your ancestor's part.
Also, if Trump forces tarrifs up, you will be very surprised what happens.
Hint: it ain't 1955 anymore.
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:32 AM (dZQh7)
The "we were right in this situation and we'll be right for a different one"/must be a fallacy.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:09 AM (dx6bM)
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I'm not sure it's a defined one though. The closest I can come is "overgeneralization" but that's kind of general.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 12:33 AM (2mC6G)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:31 AM (nUJM6)
True, but trying to contrast those who appreciate principle with those who.appreciate principals.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:33 AM (dx6bM)
with regard to my priorities right now. Like dismantling some of the
government.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:31 AM (dx6bM)
I think we need to find attention to pay to this because if this particular creeping fascism and enforcement of adherence to unreality is allowed to stand, we will not come back from it.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:36 AM (nUJM6)
Fair enough, though I suspect his comments were aimed toward Indiana.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 27, 2016 12:36 AM (KF8B+)
Cruz is a globalist, just like McCain and Romney. And he's flat-out stated that he'll "fight" in the general election just like they did, by not going negative against the Democrat.
He'll fight tooth-and-nail against other Republicans in the primaries, but he'll lay down and die for Hillary in the general, just like McCain and Romney did for Obama.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 27, 2016 12:37 AM (0OG8D)
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:33 AM (dx6bM)
I personally never appreciated principals... what with their "you have to come to school" and their "you can't just leave whenever you feel like it". Annoying, the lot of them
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 12:38 AM (nUJM6)
Implying that anyone here or elsewhere was ever truly a 'fanatic' for Romney, any more than they were 'fanatics' for McCain.
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/04/trump-discouraging-transplant-ism-dont.html
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:25 AM (61Gds)
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Ummm. No it doesn't. My argument explicitly stated that any member of a winning faction so far can claim the same thing. Romney was just an illustration.
Sorry about your reading ability, there.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 12:38 AM (2mC6G)
Being principled is so rare these days that it is now considered weak while baffoonery is considered strength. We are so screwed.
It's a reality TV world. But the reality TV crowd doesn't know that it's all fake. Hence Trump. He is reality TV.
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:38 AM (YwQCs)
"What did turn me off is the Kultur War. I'm on board with pro-life, but
I think the tranny thing was an overreaction to something that people
probably aren't that concerned about."
There are two sets of people concerned about trannies:
1. Shameless rich degenerate fuckers of the Jenner variety and their liberal fellow travelers who sense a kindred corrupt spirit and a new issue to morally posture over that shall bring voters and monies.
2. Normal people who see this as deeply weird at best and actively threatening at worst.
Group 1 generally wins against group 2 because group 1 has this issue as their primary motivation, and often get paid to promote the issue.
"I believe in the preservation of
religious liberty, but the religious programs turn me off. Indiana RFRA
is strong and good, but NC made a mistake."
NC didn't make a mistake when they made the law. NC made the mistake when they caved to the pressure of those businesses following their aforementioned degenerate rich fucker's and their fellow-travelers' marching orders. None of you conservatives stood up and fought for NC the way that, say, Trump's immigration people will stand up and fight for the victims of illegal immigration, or that Gamergaters would stand up for vidya games, or that LambdaConf people would stand up for Moldbug.
As far as the political world goes and effective advocacy for its positions goes, you're LOSERS. Now, you're losers with a vote, so Trump's not going to turn his back on you, but he's not going to spend valuable campaign time learning about the talking points for and being the primary advocate for your losing issues either, unless you show some serious spine to rally behind those who advocate for your issues. Is ESPN boycotted yet? Is Schilling reinstated yet?
If it isn't, you're still stuck at the 'become worthy' step of gaining genuine political power. Until then, vote for a man worthier of it than you and quit complaining that he doesn't grant you a micro-slice of his extremely valuable campaigning time to go over an issue that may or may not be worth pursuing at the time.
PROTIP: If the thought of using the term 'shameless rich degenerate fuckers' as a general description causes you psychic pain due to prior mental commitments, that may be the place to start.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:42 AM (61Gds)
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:47 AM (YwQCs)
Much like raising the minimum wage to $15/hr as the leading Democrats want to do, trade protectionism just raises my cost of living and begins the process of compressing the middle-class into the working class. We would end up with a more bimodal income distribution where the middle-class would merely be better-educated proletarians with cleaner jobs, and the oligarchy goes untouched. The Trump voters think they're sticking it to Wall Street or "the establishment", but they're wildly missing their mark.
Posted by: cjw at April 27, 2016 12:49 AM (7SQMF)
"NC didn't make a mistake when they made the law. NC made the mistake when they caved to the pressure of those businesses following their aforementioned degenerate rich fucker's and their fellow-travelers' marching order"
Didn't Trump "cave" on that very issue because of business concerns?
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 12:49 AM (dx6bM)
It was a poor illustration, given that Trump enthusiasm is in fact genuine, and comparing such enthusiasms (Obama's first election had much of the same general enthusiasm) to dutiful support of your guy every four-year cycle is disengenuous in the extreme.
The very idea of a 'fanatic Romneyan' is a near contradiction in terms and dropping it casually in a sentence is a speed-bump like demand on the imaginative capacity that beggars understanding in direct proportion to how familiar you are with Romney the man and the candidate. Most would mentally shut down.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:49 AM (61Gds)
No, you see, until Trump called Mexicans rapists, these supporters felt it wasn't really being talked about properly.
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:50 AM (dZQh7)
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:52 AM (dZQh7)
Airplanes and the internet exist. You can't put them back in the bottle.
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:53 AM (dZQh7)
Trump is a shameless rich degenerate fucker, too.
Posted by: sexypig at April 27, 2016 12:52 AM (dZQh7)
And those are his appealing attributes.
Posted by: mugiwara at April 27, 2016 12:55 AM (CFl8c)
To 'cave' on an issue like that, you have to have been pushing it in the first place. Trump had little to no opinion on it at the time and his early-warning stumping bells were probably ringing hard when it came up as an issue. NC, on the other hand, caved by backing off and offering concessions. Had they stood firm, they would have found out that calling businesses on their bluffs and coming out all right anyway is one of the first steps to liberal independence.
They didn't, so Trump didn't feel the need to do it for them. Possibly once you devote yourself to winning, you will win on this issue, ideally when the same people try to attack Trump on a related issue, get smacked back, and then you use the momentum to follow up on your issue too. You've already been out of the winning mindset for such a long time, so it'll probably take a while.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:55 AM (61Gds)
However, the advocates like to say "gender is not binary", so that you're in fugue from your "assigned gender" at birth, creates no compelling case that you're of the gender for the room with the other stick figure. They introduce it in terms where they're already correct, besides no facts to back it up.
Everybody who has some familiarity with feminist theory knows that the essential idea is that the two genders (for which we have bathrooms) are "made up" and gender is really "fluid". Thus, again, gender as not a binary, hardly creates the situation that there's a bathroom just for you. Diffusing the terms, makes it that much more likely.
The only remaining idea is "just be nice", well is that what LAW is for? Is that what's going to happen when activists start suing for "exclusion" (when you sort-of opted out, really) and some professional equivocator in black robes decides he can make the pile of language slide that far, this time?
We've seen it before when the gays tried to levy community esteem for their coupling through the courts.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 12:55 AM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 12:57 AM (YwQCs)
His family's demeanor seems to indicate that he's been working on minimizing the third adjective-which makes all the difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQq_GlWBil0
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:59 AM (61Gds)
theory knows that the essential idea is that the two genders (for which
we have bathrooms) are "made up" and gender is really "fluid". Thus,
again, gender as not a binary, hardly creates the situation that there's
a bathroom just for you. Diffusing the terms, makes it that much more
likely.
The only remaining idea is "just be nice", well is that what LAW is
for? Is that what's going to happen when activists start suing for
"exclusion" (when you sort-of opted out, really) and some professional
equivocator in black robes decides he can make the pile of language
slide that far, this time?
We've seen it before when the gays tried to levy community esteem for their coupling through the courts.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 12:55 AM (2mC6G)
Exactly... and feminist theory is bunk. Except in the case of exceedingly rare birth defects, gender is very much binary. This is just one more battlefield to normalize perversion and make the citizenry pretend as if the unreal is real (it is positively Orwellian).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 01:03 AM (nUJM6)
They didn't, so Trump didn't feel the need to do it for them. Possibly once you devote yourself to winning, you will win on this issue, ideally when the same people try to attack Trump on a related issue, get smacked back, and then you use the momentum to follow up on your issue too. You've already been out of the winning mindset for such a long time, so it'll probably take a while.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:55 AM (61Gds)
Can do no wrong, eh? Think more and write less. This is a waste of time.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 01:03 AM (dx6bM)
Airplanes and the internet exist. You can't put them back in the bottle."
An idiotic, pathetic rejoinder to avoid discussing what normal people actually hate about globalism. I could just respond to this with BROKEN FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES EXIST, YOU CAN'T TRY TO PUT THEM BACK TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY NOT BY RESORTING TO LEGAL MEASURES THAT NEARLY EVERY OTHER STATE IN THE WORLD COULD, DID, AND DOES TODAY.
Please go read twitter.com/DemsRRealRacist until you get exactly why that statement was foolish.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 01:04 AM (61Gds)
Apparently you haven't read the interview where Trump didn't raise his numerous families. His wives did. He paid, they raised. That whole child-rearing family atmosphere was beneath him, so yeah " shameless rich degenerate fucker" still fits. I'm sure his families livelihood depends on unwavering support because that's what shames rich degenerate fuckers demand.
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 01:05 AM (YwQCs)
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 01:08 AM (dx6bM)
He certainly can't do YOUR right if you won't. In any case, only a winner gets to determine what issue is and isn't a waste of time-when your guy gets over 60% averages in difficult territory, you can start talking to me about what is and isn't a waste of valuable time. Currently the only one wasting time and political capital on a grand scale is Cruz and his followers, already mathematically eliminated, now alienating all but the die-hards.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 01:10 AM (61Gds)
Mathematically eliminated. Yet your guy hasn't won yet. You should have listened to "think more, talk less."
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 01:17 AM (YwQCs)
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 01:18 AM (dx6bM)
Mathematically eliminated. Yet your guy hasn't won yet. You should have listened to "think more, talk less."
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 01:17 AM (YwQCs)
Yeah, and "difficult territory". There's a lot of syntax, but the thoughts are bad. Reminds me of a certain GOP hopeful.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 01:20 AM (dx6bM)
numerous families. His wives did. He paid, they raised."
Ted Cruz and Heidi have been living apart for how long now?
"That whole
child-rearing family atmosphere was beneath him, so yeah " shameless
rich degenerate fucker" still fits. I'm sure his families livelihood
depends on unwavering support because that's what shames rich degenerate
fuckers demand."
Yep, the sons and daughter who grew up to take care of the organization and talked avidly about going on his construction projects were doing so because raising kids was beneath him. Meanwhile Ted Cruz's daughters barely knew him.
http://tinyurl.com/zkwro8s
"Everytime I start warming up to Trump due to efforts of some of his
supporters, others are there to remind me why I find his ascension so
odious."
You find it odious because you find personal authority and its effective exercise odious. The very notion of a 'family business' embarasses you for some reason, though I suspect it's mostly leftover liberal programming about the Bad Old Days.
This makes you an ineffective follower and unable to recognize leadership when you see it. It is not a vice that disappears with simple acts of kindness or outreach.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 01:20 AM (61Gds)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 26, 2016 10:10 PM (nUJM6)
Granted, there's no point in arguing with someone so detached from reality.
So you have that. Have fun obsessing over the billionaire.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 01:22 AM (1D4Ef)
Granted, there's no point in arguing with someone so detached from reality.
So you have that. Have fun obsessing over the billionaire.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 01:22 AM (1D4Ef)
Look in the mirror.
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 01:25 AM (dx6bM)
I know you liberals are all into winners and billionaires and all that reality tv celebrity aura but the non- Trumpers prefer substance and principles and actual reality. Have fun when you realize you've supported an empty suit.
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 01:27 AM (YwQCs)
You should definitely consider talking less if you thought that was supposed to disappoint me, or dissuade me from saying "Hey, you big dummies, YOUR guy lost and lost big, and there's NOTHING that can possibly be gained by following him now, so get on board the Trump Train and let the Hillary-crushing commence!"
"I think the Russian staffers have infiltrated the blog at this point. Waste of time."
Yes, comrades, we have infiltrated all minds on glorious blog. Waste of time for you to post pointless rejoinders that make you look desperate, weak, childish, and tantrum-y. Is ugly like Kasich eating pancakes.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 01:27 AM (61Gds)
So you have that. Have fun obsessing over the billionaire.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 01:22 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: Mirror at April 27, 2016 01:27 AM (dx6bM)
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 01:32 AM (dx6bM)
reality tv celebrity aura but the non- Trumpers prefer substance and
principles and actual reality."
Your absolute uselessness on the abortion issue tends not to support that theory:
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/04/06/devils-advocate/
"Have fun when you realize you've
supported an empty suit."
Now THERE'S a pernicious liberal phrase if I've ever heard one! Shall I expect a missive against the vapid jocks, bimbos and WASPs of the world next?
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 01:32 AM (61Gds)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at April 27, 2016 01:44 AM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 12:49 AM (61Gds)
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Thanks for arguing like Donald: "Your illustration was really the worst, I mean, not a very good illustration at all."
I don't really want to get into your whole ball of stipulation upon stipulation. I remember people being very adamant from the start of the campaign that nobody should vote for anybody else besides Romney, because cementing support for Romney was soooooo important before any primaries were actually run.
And why? Because Romney "could win". So throw away "fanatic" if it's in your way. At the start, people were posing Romney as the guy who can win the general. What I'm simply saying is that all it takes per the argument above is that IF some people were convinced that he would win the nomination and the general, they were more likely to be right about winning the general, because they were convinced he'd win the nomination.
It's a pretty simple principle. Especially given the fact that we can add an Obama supporter convinced that he would win the nomination and the general, and because Obama did, that backer would have even more proven "likelihood of being right" because Obama did in fact win both. So if he tells us that Obama will bring the Olympics to Chicago, he was "more likely to be right", than somebody who could not foresee an Obama general win.
Trumpers aren't claiming a competency that we could withhold from any sufficiently convinced member of a winning faction. Also, if Clinton goes on to win the general, I doubt that people who are convinced that Clinton will win both will be argued to be deserving of any special accolades on our part. We would not defer to their judgment just because their hunches were proven right.
But also, it doesn't prevent a counter case of a man dreading beyond all dread his conviction that Trump would be the nominee, because he was also very, very sure that he would lose in the general. As prediction should have nothing to do with preference, being for or against Trump would have nothing to do with it. So do we prefer the person who was on board with Trump for their confidence, or the person who dreaded the Trump nomination for their confidence? Without much more detail than "I was right", we have no reason to prefer one or the other.
I just wonder what hash you'll make out of this post.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 01:47 AM (2mC6G)
Posted by: West Town at April 27, 2016 01:25 AM (dx6bM)
Posted by: Mirror at April 27, 2016 01:27 AM (dx6bM)
I think replying to the exact same comment twice may be considered a little ... obsessive.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 01:50 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 01:27 AM (YwQCs)
Who the heck are you, and why should I care when you're stupid enough to label me a liberal?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 27, 2016 01:54 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 27, 2016 01:03 AM (nUJM6)
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Also though, you simply can't claim that an atomic fact of your make up directly corresponds to ... something "society made up". Sorry.
Concepts don't work that way.
LGBT advocates are always asking me to get a little bit dumber, just for congeniality.
Posted by: Axeman at April 27, 2016 01:54 AM (2mC6G)
Posted by: Whippet at April 27, 2016 01:57 AM (YwQCs)
Posted by: Vodka at April 27, 2016 03:38 AM (xKQ1K)
That's the wrong way to take it. The GOP has been lying to you for years. The GOP hasn't been able to buy a vote in the NE because they're offshoring all the jobs, not because NE factory workers give a crap about gay marriage.
Posted by: DFCtomm at April 27, 2016 04:48 AM (ddeZa)
'Poison Pills'. smh...
...and you think that Trump is a liberal...even after an endorsement by Schlafy and numerous pro-Trump articles penned by Buchanan.
That's often referred to as 'category error'.
Your small game fllais have lso benveryinteresting.
Posted by: The Hot Gates. at April 27, 2016 07:01 AM (k3uSs)
Posted by: The Hot Gates. at April 27, 2016 07:03 AM (k3uSs)
"Without much more
detail than "I was right", we have no reason to prefer one or the
other.
I just wonder what hash you'll make out of this post."
If you're retreating to semantic exactitude, all I can say is that while picking an electable front-runner and rallying behind him might theoretically be well and good for a period when all candidates are trying to be as uniformly 'presidential' as possible...it does suffer from the fact that the first one to break the mold (Gingrich's surprise win in South Carolina) can ruin and dilute it for everyone else. The fact remains that the Rightist political culture is not one that really rewards anything other than rapacious individualism and fakey positioning:
http://tinyurl.com/jt8deqg
Give thanks to Trump for breaking that mindset as early and as often as possible, and maybe to Cruz for being reputationally smart enough to have his pandering to his positions seen as the wave of the future.
"the anticipation of the joy felt when your "super intelligent" big brained candidate is the one who is crushed."
YOU'LL BE SORRY WHEN M'MISTRESS CRUSHES YOUR PATRIARCHAL FANTASIES WITH THE HIGH HEELS OF GRRL POWER AND DADDY'S BUSED-IN MINORITIES, SHITHEEL! THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WE CAN DO BEFORE THE ELECTION TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THESE UNASSAILABLE INSTITUTIONS OF AMERICAN ELECTIONS, SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I MENTION THEM IN A PUBLIC FORUM!
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 10:43 AM (61Gds)
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 27, 2016 01:20 AM (61Gds)
Actually Cruz has love for family: specially his aunt
http://tinyurl.com/j9j79ff
Posted by: g6loq at April 27, 2016 11:12 AM (zj+JZ)
Reading AoS, Ed Driscoll and National review right now, that's what. Delicious. Simply delicious tears.
Nothing so sweet as the tears of ultimate sadness.
Cry more.
Posted by: HempRopeAndStreetlight at April 27, 2016 05:30 PM (IoMKg)
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