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Trump Opposes North Carolina's Different-Gender Bathroom Law: "Leave It The Way It Is"
Prediction: within 24 hours he announces a major reversal on this plank and begins using the most extreme language possible to put him in sync with what he imagines conservative opinion to be.
"North Carolina did something that was very strong, and they are paying a big price and there’s a lot of problems," responded Trump. "North Carolina, what they are going through with all of the business that’s leaving and the strife-- and that'a on both sides. Leave it the way it is. There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate, there has been so little trouble," he said."Strong" is one of Trump's favorite words. He usually means it in a positive way when discussing his own policies, but he occasionally deploys it as a nice-sounding put-down to mean "too conservative." Trump is a very reactive and improvisational guy. By which I mean a bullshit artist. He's trying to figure out what to say he believes at any given moment, rather than having a core of things he actually believes. Although a good case could be made for the electoral viability of someone who wasn't so damned ideological about about everything (as Cruz is), we constantly see the limitations of Trump's no-core-beliefs belief system as well. Not having an intellectually defensible position (as he hasn't thought much about these things) and not having a core of things he feels strongly to be true (again, as he hasn't thought about these things), he tends to guess, get the answer wrong, then come back with a harsh formulation going the exact opposite direction to try to prove his non-existent bona fides. Now the guy who's selling himself both as "Mr. Anti-Political Correctness" and as a guy who can reconform himself to be "presidential" and broadly acceptable to the public veers too far to the left side of that balance. When he gets pushback, which he will, he'll wind up veering too far to the other side; he might start talking about bathroom rapes. Which are a real thing, don't get me wrong. But such things have to be discussed delicately; you wouldn't want to make it sound like most transgenders (or most Mexican immigrants) are rapists. Well, no use criticizing Trump for things he ain't even done yet. But I've seen this movie before. He doesn't really understand conservatives, and when his natural liberalism gets him into trouble with his conservative supporters, he drops something ugly to convince them all he's really "One of Them." This episode does smoke out Trump as to which things he's "not politically correct" about. There is definitely a class of things he's not politically correct about -- sometimes about immigration, but mostly about affronts to Mr. Trump himself. When challenged, he behaves in a decidedly "politically incorrect" way, which most people would simply call "rude" and "ill-mannered" and "coarse." But on the things conservatives really want him to be politically incorrect about -- challenging the tyranny of liberal assumptions which so easily dictate liberal conclusions (as they're designed to do) -- he's reliably politically correct himself. Planned Parenthood is an important, fantastic women's health resource. I'm softening, I'm changing my position on H1-Bs -- we need these great people doing the jobs American's won't do (or can't do). Forcing schools and businesses to allow men with penises in the women's rooms has caused so, so few problems, in all honesty, if I can be frank. One might question: on exactly which questions, apart from immigration (partly walked back, and probably walked back even further in interviews with the New York Times) and defending himself personally, is Trump actually politically incorrect? Simply being an insult artist doesn't make you politically incorrect. Obama's an insult artist too.
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This should be fun.
Posted by: HH at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (DrCtv)
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Foot meet mouth.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (/E+t2)
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This SHOULD be an absolute deal breaker for those who support Trump because they see him as the guy who is taking it to the Social Justice Warrior/PC brigade. This is such a stupid fucking thing for him to say. What a dunce.
Posted by: Rich at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (ygBCA)
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (/E+t2)
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Is NC paying a price? Aside from a couple of concerts cancelled, has anyone really been affected?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 21, 2016 12:57 PM (hqZPQ)
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I can't wait to hear the excuses for this one.
Let 'em rip!!!!!
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (/E+t2)
It will be along the lines of, He doesn't really *mean* it.
But he's totally serious about the wall, yo!
I can't wait to hear the excuses for this one.
Let 'em rip!!!!!
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (/E+t2)
It will be along the lines of, He doesn't really *mean* it.
But he's totally serious about the wall, yo!
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 12:57 PM (dpnZC)
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Circular Firing Squad assemble.
Posted by: Grump928(C) posts 200 comments late at April 21, 2016 12:58 PM (rwI+c)
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Just heard a rumor on TV that Prince has died.
Posted by: HH at April 21, 2016 12:58 PM (DrCtv)
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Lol.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 12:58 PM (/E+t2)
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Remember folks, if the GOP had shown the slightest backbone, moral fiber, or courage in avowed convictions, this would not be happening.
Self. Inflicted. Injury.
Self. Inflicted. Injury.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 21, 2016 12:58 PM (9krrF)
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This will cost him votes.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (iQIUe)
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Prince is formerly known as alive.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (dF04M)
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North Carolina did something that was very strong, and they are paying a
big price and there's a lot of problems responded Trump.
What big price? A few washed up has-beens will not perform a concert there? Please don't throw me in that briar patch Mr Trumpy.
big price and there's a lot of problems responded Trump.
What big price? A few washed up has-beens will not perform a concert there? Please don't throw me in that briar patch Mr Trumpy.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (vvmPQ)
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This should also be a warning to the Trump supporters who believe he'll stand up to big business. With big business going SJW on NC, Trump advocates giving in.
Posted by: Anachronism at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (LOC7Q)
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Funny how a man who instinctively opposes any conservative idea is in the lead in the GOP primaries.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (Qvgg/)
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So he's down with a daughter or granddaughter dealing with a chick with a dick in their restroom. Alrighty, then.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (FsuaD)
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We should not have any walls in bathrooms.
Posted by: Dumb and Dumber at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (Dpd0V)
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I mean seriously, it's like an opportunistic infection in an immune system weakened by God-knows-what. If the GOP had done right by its voting base instead of selling out to the donor class again and again...
Posted by: Brother Cavil at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (9krrF)
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I've never understood the charge that Trump is pushing back on political correctness.
Posted by: SH at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (gmeXX)
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"He's gonna keep them dirty Mexicans out but he's gonna let grown men pee next to little girls because PIVOT to the general!!!!!!!"
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (4bzP6)
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Here's the blind gossip story people ID'd as Prince before he died
Another Celebrity Has AIDS
http://blindgossip.com/?p=77843
Here's the blind gossip story people ID'd as Prince before he died
Another Celebrity Has AIDS
http://blindgossip.com/?p=77843
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (iQIUe)
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He still thinks Planned Parenthood is "doing some great things" too, right?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: eman at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (mR7Es)
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My office mate asked me if it bothered me to shower with homos, I think this was leading up to some kind of hypocrisy on my part. I asked if it bothered him for his granddaughter to shower with men.
End conversation on the matter.
End conversation on the matter.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (rwI+c)
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This should not surprise anyone. He is a social issues liberal. He doesn't like anything that disrupts business.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (Dwehj)
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Think Trump has ever had to find a rest stop on I-80 for his kids?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (hqZPQ)
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Holy fuck.. sorry to be OT, but just heard Prince has died.
Posted by: jewells45 at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (czgEy)
Posted by: R. Kelly at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (4bzP6)
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I'm in NC, and I have heard one person bring up the topic since it's been in the news, and that was to ask me what I thought. I told him I thought that anyone getting so screamingly worked up about a law that simply preserves standards of modern privacy and decency isn't worth listening to. He seemed to agree, we dropped it. (Prince is definitely dead, or a bunch of sites got punked.)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (2cS/G)
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Donald Trump is cool with transgenders in the bathroom with little girls--because he doesn't empathize with people's concern for their daughters rights to some measure of privacy and safety.
I don't think he so much is fine with that, its that he's thinking with cultural pressure and emotions rather than logic. That's how most people who oppose this pretty basic common sense legislation get there.
They don't think through the practical and personal, experiential results of their wishes, they just think in the abstract of how it makes them feel and how nice it seems and how everyone they like and admire seems to lean. If they all say so, it must be right, and its mean to people to say no.
Plus, for Trump, I think this is a "I can differentiate myself from Cruz and get popular" moment.
I don't think he so much is fine with that, its that he's thinking with cultural pressure and emotions rather than logic. That's how most people who oppose this pretty basic common sense legislation get there.
They don't think through the practical and personal, experiential results of their wishes, they just think in the abstract of how it makes them feel and how nice it seems and how everyone they like and admire seems to lean. If they all say so, it must be right, and its mean to people to say no.
Plus, for Trump, I think this is a "I can differentiate myself from Cruz and get popular" moment.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Andrew Jackson's Parrot at April 21, 2016 01:02 PM (KId5h)
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If there was any doubt that Trump has no overarching plan except for saying the first thing that comes to his mind at any given moment, let this matter settle it.
Let us now dispense, for once and all, with this ludicrous idea that Trump is somehow going to save us from the cultural corruption of the Left. It was always a weak argument, and now it is clearly seen as a false argument.
Let us now dispense, for once and all, with this ludicrous idea that Trump is somehow going to save us from the cultural corruption of the Left. It was always a weak argument, and now it is clearly seen as a false argument.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:02 PM (6JL3d)
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ZOMG! Facebook is/was down, Prince is dead, and now this anti-Trump post by Ace!
Meh.......time for lunch. BBTLL
Meh.......time for lunch. BBTLL
Posted by: NOT a Facebook Zombie at April 21, 2016 01:02 PM (yCkeu)
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"There is definitely a class of things he's not politically correct about -- sometimes about immigration, but mostly about affronts to Mr. Trump himself."
Bingo.
His fans are already saying this shows how smart he is b/c he's pivoting to the general election.
Bingo.
His fans are already saying this shows how smart he is b/c he's pivoting to the general election.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 21, 2016 01:02 PM (t5zYU)
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**Sound of Crying Doves**
Posted by: garrett at April 21, 2016 01:02 PM (4bzP6)
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if there was no problem, which i agree with, then charlotte didn't need to act causing NC to react
Posted by: nckate at April 21, 2016 01:02 PM (O46jc)
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Per Fox, Prince had played a sold-out concert in ATL and flew back home on his private jet, not feeling well. Reports say he had the flu.
I saw him in concert in ATL waaaaaaaay back when.
*my lawn--I'm getting off of it*
I saw him in concert in ATL waaaaaaaay back when.
*my lawn--I'm getting off of it*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:03 PM (FsuaD)
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OT. Prince found dead
Posted by: Joe Meyer at April 21, 2016 01:03 PM (fYFzF)
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Is NC paying a price? Aside from a couple of concerts cancelled, has anyone really been affected?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (0LHZx)
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I was going to go there for lunch, but then I remembered I have a hair appointment. Not sure if that counts. Probably not.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (0LHZx)
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I was going to go there for lunch, but then I remembered I have a hair appointment. Not sure if that counts. Probably not.
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Posted by: In Vino Veritits at April 21, 2016 01:03 PM (KId5h)
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The business of those who make it their business to pee in ladies rooms...
Posted by: g6loq at April 21, 2016 01:03 PM (zj+JZ)
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Modern society places zero value on privacy or modesty any more. Zero. It's a terrible mistake and psychologically unhealthy
Modern society places zero value on privacy or modesty any more. Zero. It's a terrible mistake and psychologically unhealthy
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (vvmPQ)
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Here's the thing.
Around here, homosexual marriage was being debated, before the Supreme Court violated the constitution, took a gigantic crap all over the country, and forced it on everyone.
There were more than a few regulars who said things like "well I'm fine with it, I just don't like the tactics" and "I don't care about this, but they're making me care."
I see none of that here, none about this law. Nobody is going "well maybe they have a point," its just flat out "are you f'ing kidding me???"
That says something. I'm not sure what, but it definitely says something.
Around here, homosexual marriage was being debated, before the Supreme Court violated the constitution, took a gigantic crap all over the country, and forced it on everyone.
There were more than a few regulars who said things like "well I'm fine with it, I just don't like the tactics" and "I don't care about this, but they're making me care."
I see none of that here, none about this law. Nobody is going "well maybe they have a point," its just flat out "are you f'ing kidding me???"
That says something. I'm not sure what, but it definitely says something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (39g3+)
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Rules for writing a Prince obituary:
* You must replace all instances of to, too, and two with "2".
* You must write "you" as "u".
* You must replace all instances of to, too, and two with "2".
* You must write "you" as "u".
Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (S2VsH)
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I don't know, I think Bruce Springsteen's statement on his refusal to play in NC really summed things up well:
"Garch a har, rengle fang teh hargbag snerkle! Werg fer dere dangflangle fert! Awhootoofuhgungle! MERT!"
Now, who could argue with THAT?
"Garch a har, rengle fang teh hargbag snerkle! Werg fer dere dangflangle fert! Awhootoofuhgungle! MERT!"
Now, who could argue with THAT?
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (XdbLA)
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How did lace wigs get back in here?
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 21, 2016 01:05 PM (dFi94)
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Oh man. I love Prince. Huge bummer
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:05 PM (zOTsN)
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Maybe Trump's just like my mother, she's never satisfied.
Too soon?
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (Dwehj)
Ohhhhhhhhhhh...just got that. Well if he is dead, this is what it sounds like when the doves cry.
R.I.P. Prince.
I'm gonna play the hell out of the Purple Rain album for the next few days.
Too soon?
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:01 PM (Dwehj)
Ohhhhhhhhhhh...just got that. Well if he is dead, this is what it sounds like when the doves cry.
R.I.P. Prince.
I'm gonna play the hell out of the Purple Rain album for the next few days.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 01:05 PM (/E+t2)
Posted by: Ted from Texas, U.S.A. at April 21, 2016 01:05 PM (BSD2I)
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Who would've thought the defining issue of our day would be dicks.
Posted by: Lauren at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (g5qNI)
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Shit. Now no 'Purple Rain 2: Electric Bogaloo'.
Posted by: Smug Hollywood at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (gwG9s)
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When I saw him in concert, a guy puked his guts out in front of us before the concert even started.
Then Prince sprayed the audience with something white out of his guitar.
Memories.
Then Prince sprayed the audience with something white out of his guitar.
Memories.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (FsuaD)
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Let 'em rip!!!!!
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (/E+t2)
______________________
That was hurtful....
~sniff-sniff~
Let 'em rip!!!!!
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 12:56 PM (/E+t2)
______________________
That was hurtful....
~sniff-sniff~
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (HSmrB)
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i have never seen purple rain....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
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Trump turned me into a newt.
Posted by: Newt (formerly) at April 21, 2016 01:07 PM (Pby3z)
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Is NC paying a price? Aside from a couple of concerts cancelled, has anyone really been affected? /i]
Its probably a few million out of their pockets overall at the government level, and some jobs lost (roadies, promotion, etc) from a few of these cancellations, but... not from what I can tell, not really.
is that... is that really Lace Wigs? I feel somehow better for seeing the spam.
Its probably a few million out of their pockets overall at the government level, and some jobs lost (roadies, promotion, etc) from a few of these cancellations, but... not from what I can tell, not really.
is that... is that really Lace Wigs? I feel somehow better for seeing the spam.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:07 PM (39g3+)
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IIRC Primce was fairly religious. Seventh Day Adventist or something. Didn't smoke or drink alcohol.
IIRC Primce was fairly religious. Seventh Day Adventist or something. Didn't smoke or drink alcohol.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:07 PM (zOTsN)
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Wikipedia has updated Prince's status to 'Died April 21,2016'.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 21, 2016 01:07 PM (dFi94)
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I can't help but remember that when Ryan White died, because the homos were donating AIDs infected blood products used by hemophiliacs, this was somehow co-opted as a defense of the homos.
The Commie/Media conglomerate's ability to shape the narrative is powerful.
The Commie/Media conglomerate's ability to shape the narrative is powerful.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at April 21, 2016 01:07 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (dpnZC)
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>13
Prince is formerly known as alive.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (dF04M)<
I read an article linked from the Drudge headline. It said his performance at the 2007 Superbowl was "one of the best live performances in history". I was there and I didn't have that reaction to it at all. Of course, it was pouring rain and I was cold and soaked. My ears and eyes still worked though.
Prince is formerly known as alive.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (dF04M)<
I read an article linked from the Drudge headline. It said his performance at the 2007 Superbowl was "one of the best live performances in history". I was there and I didn't have that reaction to it at all. Of course, it was pouring rain and I was cold and soaked. My ears and eyes still worked though.
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (ByLlW)
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Wikipedia has updated Prince's status to 'Died April 21,2016'.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 21, 2016 01:07 PM (dFi94)
Well, that was fast. Is the body even cold yet?
Wikipedia has updated Prince's status to 'Died April 21,2016'.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 21, 2016 01:07 PM (dFi94)
Well, that was fast. Is the body even cold yet?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (FsuaD)
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>>>His fans are already saying this shows how smart he is b/c he's pivoting to the general election.
Anytime Trump says something stupid his fans say this without being aware what he really thinks about them. "I love the poorly educated!".
Anytime Trump says something stupid his fans say this without being aware what he really thinks about them. "I love the poorly educated!".
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (/E+t2)
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Trump's wrong on this, and making this statement was a mistake.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (xuouz)
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Prince not Primce.
I cannot emphasize how huge he was to a kid in ND. He was from MLPS. Like Elvis of the upper Midwest
I cannot emphasize how huge he was to a kid in ND. He was from MLPS. Like Elvis of the upper Midwest
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (zOTsN)
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And I for one am glad to see our old, dear friend Lace Wigs return to the HQ
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (dpnZC)
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Through my professional career, I have worked with a couple of transgenders. One was a she --> he with the full add-a-dick-tome. The other was a he --> she that just had their balls chopped off. I speak not of first hand visual knowledge, but from conversations.
Having known and worked with both of these individuals provides one with some comfort should they utilize a restroom with your young daughter (of which I have).
But as a father of a young daughter, if you are out and about without the better half or other female to escort your daughter into a bathroom - this is a scary situation. What do you do? Take her into the men's room? Send her in alone into the lady's room with your fingers crossed?
I've done both. And honestly, it comes down to having an "innie" or an "outie". You have an "outie" - to the men's room you go. I don't care if you have a dress on or not.
Having known and worked with both of these individuals provides one with some comfort should they utilize a restroom with your young daughter (of which I have).
But as a father of a young daughter, if you are out and about without the better half or other female to escort your daughter into a bathroom - this is a scary situation. What do you do? Take her into the men's room? Send her in alone into the lady's room with your fingers crossed?
I've done both. And honestly, it comes down to having an "innie" or an "outie". You have an "outie" - to the men's room you go. I don't care if you have a dress on or not.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 21, 2016 01:09 PM (jxbfJ)
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"Prediction: within 24 hours he announces a major reversal on this plank
and begins using the most extreme language possible to put him in sync
with what he imagines conservative opinion to be."
Drawing upon Biblical sources to appease those heartland social conservatives. Such as the book of "Two Corinthians". As any "strong Christian" would naturally do.
and begins using the most extreme language possible to put him in sync
with what he imagines conservative opinion to be."
Drawing upon Biblical sources to appease those heartland social conservatives. Such as the book of "Two Corinthians". As any "strong Christian" would naturally do.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2016 01:09 PM (noWW6)
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I guess that's how far left the nation has shifted. Accepting a Democrat over Hillary (who is some malformed beastliar) is the way the winds are a blowin'.
/shrug
I don't know who or what to believe anymore. The rabidness towards/against Trump and Cruz is so vicious, how can you sift through it.
I guess that's how far left the nation has shifted. Accepting a Democrat over Hillary (who is some malformed beastliar) is the way the winds are a blowin'.
/shrug
I don't know who or what to believe anymore. The rabidness towards/against Trump and Cruz is so vicious, how can you sift through it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 21, 2016 01:09 PM (qCMvj)
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If Trump could just get over the Huff-in-Mouth disease..
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (LA7Cm)
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Prince stealing my gimmicks once again.
Posted by: Michael Jackson at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (Pby3z)
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I'm surprised Drudge didn't have the Dear Leader's thoughts on Prince along side the siren.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (/E+t2)
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i have never seen purple rain....
Rather disjointed, dark and disturbing but good in a train wreck sort of way.
Rather disjointed, dark and disturbing but good in a train wreck sort of way.
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (Dwehj)
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Elvis is dead?
Elvis is dead?
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (vk99r)
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I'm still alive.
Posted by: Little Richard at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (Pby3z)
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I will be very surprised if Prince died from AIDS. I think he didn't believe in doctors, got pneumonia and died
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (zOTsN)
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Trump is the biggest fraud in the history of the GOP.
The Turtle, Ryan, and their like are consistently hostile to the conservative base, and yet they keep getting elected.
Republicans know these things and vote for them anyway.
And Trump's taking it to a whole new level.
GOP: The Masochist Party.
The Turtle, Ryan, and their like are consistently hostile to the conservative base, and yet they keep getting elected.
Republicans know these things and vote for them anyway.
And Trump's taking it to a whole new level.
GOP: The Masochist Party.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at April 21, 2016 01:10 PM (laMCB)
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23 Here's the blind gossip story people ID'd as Prince before he died
Another Celebrity Has AIDS
http://blindgossip.com/?p=77843
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (iQIUe)
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Very sad about Prince. He was an odd guy, but what a talent.
I must admit that Blindgossip.com is one of my guilty pleasures. Interesting that the anonymous proprietor of that site also goes by the name of "Ace." Hmmm...
Another Celebrity Has AIDS
http://blindgossip.com/?p=77843
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (iQIUe)
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Very sad about Prince. He was an odd guy, but what a talent.
I must admit that Blindgossip.com is one of my guilty pleasures. Interesting that the anonymous proprietor of that site also goes by the name of "Ace." Hmmm...
Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (tXvWw)
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Flying back from ATL after a Thursday concert, his plane had to land in Moline, IL because of his flu-like symptoms.
Dead at 57.
Dead at 57.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (FsuaD)
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Does anyone know how Presdent Obama feels on this subject ???
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (KRuzk)
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"You eat buffet too much! You go home now!"
"You eat buffet too much! You go home now!"
Posted by: Two Girls, One Rice Bowl at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (KId5h)
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The world just got a little less purple.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Triumph the Insult Dog at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (DXFk8)
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Trump has broken another of my stupid meters.
Posted by: eman at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (mR7Es)
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I heard this audio cut, and it sounded like another of Trump's side-switching stream-of-consciousness answers. When he said "Leave it the way it is," I thought he meant "Leave it the way it always has been."
Trump has broken another of my stupid meters.
Posted by: eman at April 21, 2016 01:00 PM (mR7Es)
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I heard this audio cut, and it sounded like another of Trump's side-switching stream-of-consciousness answers. When he said "Leave it the way it is," I thought he meant "Leave it the way it always has been."
Posted by: iforgot at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (pC96u)
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Although a good case could be made for the electoral viability of someone who wasn't so damned ideological about about everything (as Cruz is),
well that's the thing
sometimes Trump speaks our minds, or common sense
and then he goes off the rails, tumbleweeding into crazy town
well that's the thing
sometimes Trump speaks our minds, or common sense
and then he goes off the rails, tumbleweeding into crazy town
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (qCMvj)
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Sorry
Prince was a Christian Scientist. Didn't smoke or drink. Prolly didn't use modern medicine either
Sorry
Prince was a Christian Scientist. Didn't smoke or drink. Prolly didn't use modern medicine either
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (zOTsN)
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Unfortunately, the gossip is that Prince thought he was cured and stopped his treatments. Sort of like Charlie Sheen.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (iQIUe)
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My favorite part is that he said before answering that he knew that question was going to come up. So as much as The Donald prepares for anything he was prepared for this question and he still screwed the pooch.
General, launch those nukes!!
On second thought ...
General, launch those nukes!!
On second thought ...
Posted by: JackStraw at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (/tuJf)
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>>>If Trump could just get over the Huff-in-Mouth disease..
Good point Ricardo. That would explain that goldish orange ring around Trump's mouth.
Good point Ricardo. That would explain that goldish orange ring around Trump's mouth.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (/E+t2)
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Trump will attract a lot of support with this position.
As with almost every other person in this country, I had no idea there was a problem with who was using what bathroom.
The best advise for something that isn't a problem but the left has blown all out of proportion - Leave it the way it is.
Fucking Brilliant.
If only half our politicians had the sense to come up with solutions like this, we would be far better off.
And what does the far right, bible thumping community want to do?
Cruz apparently is advocating that when Caitlin Jenner, in full drag, want to use a bathroom, he/she should use the men's room.
I propose that that would cause much more of a stir than if he just went into the women's room and sat down in a stall.
Perverts are perverts no matter which bathroom they are in. If someone is breaking the law, have them arrested. Otherwise, stop being led around by the nose by cause-driven liberals who promote stupid scenarios for their own purposes.
As with almost every other person in this country, I had no idea there was a problem with who was using what bathroom.
The best advise for something that isn't a problem but the left has blown all out of proportion - Leave it the way it is.
Fucking Brilliant.
If only half our politicians had the sense to come up with solutions like this, we would be far better off.
And what does the far right, bible thumping community want to do?
Cruz apparently is advocating that when Caitlin Jenner, in full drag, want to use a bathroom, he/she should use the men's room.
I propose that that would cause much more of a stir than if he just went into the women's room and sat down in a stall.
Perverts are perverts no matter which bathroom they are in. If someone is breaking the law, have them arrested. Otherwise, stop being led around by the nose by cause-driven liberals who promote stupid scenarios for their own purposes.
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: V the K at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (O7MnT)
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Broken eggs, cheese, water, butter, rape in the women's bathroom; all necessary for
How To Make A Rape Omelette
*some rapes are better than others*
How To Make A Rape Omelette
*some rapes are better than others*
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 21, 2016 01:13 PM (gyKtp)
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14 Please don't throw me in that briar patch Mr Trumpy.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (vvmPQ)
This ploy works
Trust me.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2016 12:59 PM (vvmPQ)
This ploy works
Trust me.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 21, 2016 01:13 PM (10hEu)
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This ain't Lake Minnetonka.
Posted by: Prince, upon arriving in heaven at April 21, 2016 01:14 PM (FwRqg)
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Don't forget that Senator Sanders (From Vermint) is also running for Presdent and he will do the fine things for this county as he dids for Vermant.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2016 01:14 PM (KRuzk)
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Does anyone know how Presdent Obama feels on this subject ???
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (KRuzk)
Hi Mary!
I'm in love with you
.
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2016 01:11 PM (KRuzk)
Hi Mary!
I'm in love with you
.Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 21, 2016 01:14 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 21, 2016 01:14 PM (vk99r)
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Trump's wrong on this, and making this statement was a mistake.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (xuouz)
Thanks for clarifying this.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (xuouz)
Thanks for clarifying this.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at April 21, 2016 01:14 PM (/E+t2)
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His fans are already saying this shows how smart he is b/c he's pivoting to the general election.
He's tried a couple of times earlier, dropped in polling and did poorly in a state then changed back to yelling "I'm gonna build that wall!" because it was too early to go into General election mode. I suspect its still too early.
...someone who wasn't so damned ideological about about everything (as Cruz is)...
That's what we've come to. Someone consistently principled and driven by a core set of ideals is considered excessively ideological.
He's tried a couple of times earlier, dropped in polling and did poorly in a state then changed back to yelling "I'm gonna build that wall!" because it was too early to go into General election mode. I suspect its still too early.
...someone who wasn't so damned ideological about about everything (as Cruz is)...
That's what we've come to. Someone consistently principled and driven by a core set of ideals is considered excessively ideological.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:14 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:14 PM (Dwehj)
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Trump has been pushing it with his whining cheating and corruption allegations to cover his sorry incompetent butt. He has poisoned the discourse on our side and been extremely demagogic. The other day, his son was saying that the delegate rules are bad because they're, like, 200 years old, and are irrelevant now we can access the library of congress on our phones (what? ) and that the delegate situation is like Communist China. Yes he said that.
And now this.
That's it for me. I am not voting for this unprincipled boorish liberal who has never shown regard for or even given lip service to the constitution . (Actually, that's inaccurate. His overarching principle is Trump. And no, being crass and boorish is not a positive attribute.) I will write in someone else and vote for the down ticket candidates.
I was willing to vote for him in the general, but all he has done is to continue to alienate me.
If this is who Republicans select after the field we started our with, we deserve for Hillary to win.
And now this.
That's it for me. I am not voting for this unprincipled boorish liberal who has never shown regard for or even given lip service to the constitution . (Actually, that's inaccurate. His overarching principle is Trump. And no, being crass and boorish is not a positive attribute.) I will write in someone else and vote for the down ticket candidates.
I was willing to vote for him in the general, but all he has done is to continue to alienate me.
If this is who Republicans select after the field we started our with, we deserve for Hillary to win.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (+wjl1)
Posted by: King Trumpenkhaumun at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (10hEu)
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Remember he is now being advised by the GOPe bigwigs and Lobbyists. It's not as if we didn't know stuff like this was going to start happening.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (iONHu)
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The New Rape Crisis
The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants has become Misterhood of the Potted Plants. Why?
*Feminists don't object to clearly phony rape cases which diminish claims of real victims.
*Feminists don't object as special Snowflakes claim victimhood at the drop of a hat or the thermostat, diminishing real cases of discrimination.
*Feminists don't object to Hillary unleashing private detectives on her husband's victims--not just the bimbos who agreed to his advances, but the women who refused him. Try to imagine their horror at being attacked first by the husband and then by the wife--and all to keep her dream of being the first female president alive.
*Feminists don't object to sex-selection abortion, even though it mostly kills girls.
*Feminists don't object to the high-tech cannibalism of harvesting of these girls for parts, even after years of complaining about the objectification of female parts.
*Feminists don't object as waves of foreign men molest them in the public square and public pools, only to have the police, media and politicians side with the molesters, silencing the victims in the name of multi-culturalism.
*Feminists don't object as schoolgirls shy away from sports, forced to share their facilities with males, even as they swung Title 9 like a blunt club to increase women's athletics.
*Feminists don't object even as vulnerable women and girls are losing their ladies rooms to any creep who can mumble the words "I self-identify". If I self-identify as your owner, are you a slave?
*Feminists don't object as schools tell parents not to label their four-year-old daughters as girls when they drop them off for their first day of school. After all, they may grow up to be men. Or one of the 23 other genders our over-educated elites have invented.
Feminists don't object. But I do.
The primitive caveman saw an upright rock formation and worshipped it as a phallic symbol. Our modern primitives, aka tenured professors, have concocted a Howard Johnson's 23 Flavor Medley of Genital Worship.
I prefer the caveman; his tuition didn't go up every year or leave his kids living in the cave basement, confused, unemployed, deeply in debt and with a degree not worth the woolly mammoth skin it was carved on.
Yes, the Sistahs are taking a beating. Literally. And loving it, evidently.
What is the New Rape Crisis?
Feminists Screwing Themselves.
The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants has become Misterhood of the Potted Plants. Why?
*Feminists don't object to clearly phony rape cases which diminish claims of real victims.
*Feminists don't object as special Snowflakes claim victimhood at the drop of a hat or the thermostat, diminishing real cases of discrimination.
*Feminists don't object to Hillary unleashing private detectives on her husband's victims--not just the bimbos who agreed to his advances, but the women who refused him. Try to imagine their horror at being attacked first by the husband and then by the wife--and all to keep her dream of being the first female president alive.
*Feminists don't object to sex-selection abortion, even though it mostly kills girls.
*Feminists don't object to the high-tech cannibalism of harvesting of these girls for parts, even after years of complaining about the objectification of female parts.
*Feminists don't object as waves of foreign men molest them in the public square and public pools, only to have the police, media and politicians side with the molesters, silencing the victims in the name of multi-culturalism.
*Feminists don't object as schoolgirls shy away from sports, forced to share their facilities with males, even as they swung Title 9 like a blunt club to increase women's athletics.
*Feminists don't object even as vulnerable women and girls are losing their ladies rooms to any creep who can mumble the words "I self-identify". If I self-identify as your owner, are you a slave?
*Feminists don't object as schools tell parents not to label their four-year-old daughters as girls when they drop them off for their first day of school. After all, they may grow up to be men. Or one of the 23 other genders our over-educated elites have invented.
Feminists don't object. But I do.
The primitive caveman saw an upright rock formation and worshipped it as a phallic symbol. Our modern primitives, aka tenured professors, have concocted a Howard Johnson's 23 Flavor Medley of Genital Worship.
I prefer the caveman; his tuition didn't go up every year or leave his kids living in the cave basement, confused, unemployed, deeply in debt and with a degree not worth the woolly mammoth skin it was carved on.
Yes, the Sistahs are taking a beating. Literally. And loving it, evidently.
What is the New Rape Crisis?
Feminists Screwing Themselves.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (BSD2I)
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The wiki Prince page has crashed. Too many people trying to access it.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (iQIUe)
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Remember folks, if the GOP had shown the slightest backbone, moral fiber, or courage in avowed convictions, this would not be happening.
That is no longer a valid excuse for Trump support; his supporters are not voting against the Establishment, they are voting against Cruz in favor of Trump.
His supporters didn't care that Trump blamed Pamella Geller for a jihadist attack or supported the Nazification of Southern heritage, and I've no doubt they will find a reason to excuse this position as well.
That is no longer a valid excuse for Trump support; his supporters are not voting against the Establishment, they are voting against Cruz in favor of Trump.
His supporters didn't care that Trump blamed Pamella Geller for a jihadist attack or supported the Nazification of Southern heritage, and I've no doubt they will find a reason to excuse this position as well.
Posted by: lowtech redneck at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (KF8B+)
Posted by: Andrew Jackson's Parrot at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (KId5h)
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@66, hey I was at that Super Bowl too. Compared to my performance, Prince was phenomenal.
Posted by: Rex Grossman at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (hqZPQ)
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Such as the book of "Two Corinthians"
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I laughed at that too. Oddly enough, I've recently heard two different pastors give sermons in which they referenced "Two Corinthians" or "Two Samuel". Both are from Scotland, so maybe it's a thing. One of them says "Two Corinthians and chapter 3 and verse 11". It's pleasantly amusing.
Donald probably isn't Scottish though.
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I laughed at that too. Oddly enough, I've recently heard two different pastors give sermons in which they referenced "Two Corinthians" or "Two Samuel". Both are from Scotland, so maybe it's a thing. One of them says "Two Corinthians and chapter 3 and verse 11". It's pleasantly amusing.
Donald probably isn't Scottish though.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (dFi94)
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Broken eggs, cheese, water, butter, rape in the women's bathroom; all necessary for How To Make A Rape Omelette>>>
Should we use Flint Water?
Should we use Flint Water?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (tf9Ne)
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The War on Women being so 2012 we needed a new culture war campaign for 2016. One where the Republican can be condemned as a vicious cold-hearted, maniacal brute who wishes to oppress.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Indulge Your Neuroses with a Custom Complaint from the Outrage Outlet! at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (hLRSq)
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R.I.P. Prince.
I'm gonna play the hell out of the Purple Rain album for the next few days.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 01:05 PM (/E+t2)
oh sad
need to read what happened
Purple Rain is a classic. I'll play it once in memory.
I'm gonna play the hell out of the Purple Rain album for the next few days.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 21, 2016 01:05 PM (/E+t2)
oh sad
need to read what happened
Purple Rain is a classic. I'll play it once in memory.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (qCMvj)
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If this is who Republicans select after the field we started our with, we deserve for Hillary to win.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (+wjl1)
Don't say that. I know I don't deserve hillary.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (+wjl1)
Don't say that. I know I don't deserve hillary.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (V/InG)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (zOTsN)
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"17 So he's down with a daughter or granddaughter dealing with a chick with a dick in their restroom. Alrighty, then.
Posted by: Jane D'oh"
Tell them not to look at me.
Posted by: Jane D'oh"
Tell them not to look at me.
Posted by: Ann Coulter at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (OD2ni)
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>>>Now, who could argue with THAT?
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (XdbLA)>>>
What Sort-of-Mad Max Johnson said about what Biggy Johnson said is right! We'll wire the Governor!
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (XdbLA)>>>
What Sort-of-Mad Max Johnson said about what Biggy Johnson said is right! We'll wire the Governor!
Posted by: Dr. Samuel Johnson at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (yCkeu)
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Oh, so now the $5 and $10 are getting made over too.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (LA7Cm)
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Having known and worked with both of these individuals provides one with
some comfort should they utilize a restroom with your young daughter
(of which I have).
But the issue really isn't about genuine transgendered people using the bathroom of their choice. It's about the perverts who will lie about being transgendered in order to act perverted.
some comfort should they utilize a restroom with your young daughter
(of which I have).
But the issue really isn't about genuine transgendered people using the bathroom of their choice. It's about the perverts who will lie about being transgendered in order to act perverted.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (dpnZC)
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Well, all those high powered advisors Trump just brought in are proving to be money well spent.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (kTF2Z)
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>113
@66, hey I was at that Super Bowl too. Compared to my performance, Prince was phenomenal.
Posted by: Rex Grossman at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (hqZPQ)<
You're lucky I couldn't get to the field Rex. Bad Rex, Bad!
@66, hey I was at that Super Bowl too. Compared to my performance, Prince was phenomenal.
Posted by: Rex Grossman at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (hqZPQ)<
You're lucky I couldn't get to the field Rex. Bad Rex, Bad!
Posted by: Muad'dib at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (ByLlW)
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Perverts are perverts no matter which bathroom they are in. If
someone is breaking the law, have them arrested. Otherwise, stop being
led around by the nose by cause-driven liberals who promote stupid
scenarios for their own purposes.
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (Zs4uk)
What went wrong in your brain, that you cannot see the inherent contradiction in what you just wrote?
Stop being led around by liberals... into situations they want... by accepting the changes they have made to how things were.
Are ya serious with this??
someone is breaking the law, have them arrested. Otherwise, stop being
led around by the nose by cause-driven liberals who promote stupid
scenarios for their own purposes.
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (Zs4uk)
What went wrong in your brain, that you cannot see the inherent contradiction in what you just wrote?
Stop being led around by liberals... into situations they want... by accepting the changes they have made to how things were.
Are ya serious with this??
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (6JL3d)
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Jehovah's Witness have strict rules about medical intervention as well. No blood transfusions for one
Jehovah's Witness have strict rules about medical intervention as well. No blood transfusions for one
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (zOTsN)
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Two Corinthians and a kangaroo walk into a bar...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (8ZskC)
129
i have never seen purple rain....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
it's an okay movie, if you like that sort of thing
it shows how tiny Prince was, and how big his head was
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
it's an okay movie, if you like that sort of thing
it shows how tiny Prince was, and how big his head was
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (qCMvj)
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Bummer on Prince. He was eccentric for sure. I actually ran into him almost literally one day in Minneapolis. He had two massive body guards with him. He gave me a nod and kept moving. Saw his shows a few times way back in the day.
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (m6oW5)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (LA7Cm)
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Dearly beloved, we were gathered together to get through this thing called life...
Posted by: Prince, upon arriving in heaven at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (FwRqg)
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But the issue really isn't about genuine
transgendered people using the bathroom of their choice. It's about the
perverts who will lie about being transgendered in order to act
perverted.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (dpnZC)
But, we all know *that* will never happen.
transgendered people using the bathroom of their choice. It's about the
perverts who will lie about being transgendered in order to act
perverted.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (dpnZC)
But, we all know *that* will never happen.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:18 PM (FsuaD)
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Looking around for news about Prince, I saw Hillary gave a speech about we need "positive gangs." They give a sense of family and of belonging to something larger than themselves. Well, that used to be called "church," before the government decided the church was dangerous to its agenda. Of course, the main function of church is to preach Christ crucified and distribute the Sacraments, but it certainly also provided the things Hillary thinks "positive gangs" would.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 21, 2016 01:18 PM (FQKBL)
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Oddly enough, I've recently heard two different pastors give sermons in which they referenced "Two Corinthians" or "Two Samuel". Both are from Scotland, so maybe it's a thing
Yeah, exactly, as I've said many times here before, its not exactly unheard of. I suspect Trump said it because he had 2 Corinthians written on a scrap of paper and was talking off the top of his head so he read it wrong, but its not as silly or weird as people keep acting.
Yeah, exactly, as I've said many times here before, its not exactly unheard of. I suspect Trump said it because he had 2 Corinthians written on a scrap of paper and was talking off the top of his head so he read it wrong, but its not as silly or weird as people keep acting.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:18 PM (39g3+)
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Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:12 PM (Zs4uk)
You have a point.
It's a strategy that might work.
Left goes XYZ!!! Eleventh!
Right should go - that isn't even a real problem. Leave it alone.
That's my position in changing the faces on our money too.
Leave it alone!
Every change costs money. Stop wasting it!
You have a point.
It's a strategy that might work.
Left goes XYZ!!! Eleventh!
Right should go - that isn't even a real problem. Leave it alone.
That's my position in changing the faces on our money too.
Leave it alone!
Every change costs money. Stop wasting it!
Posted by: @votermom at April 21, 2016 01:18 PM (nbrY/)
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Two Corinthians and a kangaroo walk into a bar...
Posted by: Cicero
--
I heard that one as "Two Corinthians and a Naugahyde walk into a bar....
Posted by: Cicero
--
I heard that one as "Two Corinthians and a Naugahyde walk into a bar....
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (Qvgg/)
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The artist known as Prince has died ... TMZ has learned. He was 57.
Prince's body was discovered at his Paisley Park compound in Minnesota early Thursday morning.
Prince's body was discovered at his Paisley Park compound in Minnesota early Thursday morning.
Posted by: Chief Jay Strongbow at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (e8kgV)
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I see none of that here, none about this law. Nobody is going "well maybe they have a point," its just flat out "are you f'ing kidding me???"
That says something. I'm not sure what, but it definitely says something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (39g3+)
Because it is objectively insane. By the way, Cruz's response is, are people nuts? ! Just like us.
That says something. I'm not sure what, but it definitely says something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:04 PM (39g3+)
Because it is objectively insane. By the way, Cruz's response is, are people nuts? ! Just like us.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (+wjl1)
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Prince's spokespeople are saying he was battling the flu.
People do forget that several thousand people a year die from the flu.
R.I.P., Prince.
People do forget that several thousand people a year die from the flu.
R.I.P., Prince.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (FsuaD)
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I have one word of wisdom to leave 2 u all. Apollonia.
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (Dwehj)
142
This is beyond stupid. First the NC simply makes it illegal to sue a business for not allowing transgenders into the bathroom they want. If the business wants to let transgenders into the bathroom of their choice they are allowed to do that. So basically nothing has changed other than you won't have businesses sued because they do bathrooms the old fashioned way. Geesh. Second, mandating (as Charlotte NC tried to) that they can go into the bathroom they identify with is an open invitation to sexual predators to impersonate trans people during their offense. I am NOT saying trans ARE sexual predators; I am saying sexual predators will pretend to be trans to gain access to places. This actually hurts the trans community and strikes me as immensely stupid. But hey, no one ever said liberals are smart.
Posted by: lightning at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (AP+SF)
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Wow this has been a horrific year for musicians. God's putting together a helluva a house band.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (4ErVI)
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But the issue really isn't about genuine transgendered people using the bathroom of their choice. It's about the perverts who will lie about being transgendered in order to act perverted.
If you think the only predators that will take advantage of this are people faking being trannies, you're more ignorant of human nature and perversion that is acceptable in a man your age.
Someone can honestly be so demented they really believe they are a woman when they are clearly a man... and still be a rapist and child molesting puke.
If you think the only predators that will take advantage of this are people faking being trannies, you're more ignorant of human nature and perversion that is acceptable in a man your age.
Someone can honestly be so demented they really believe they are a woman when they are clearly a man... and still be a rapist and child molesting puke.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (39g3+)
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challenging the tyranny of liberal assumptions which so easily dictate liberal conclusions (as they're designed to do) -- he's reliably politically correct himself.
Posted by Ace
Yes, and...
There are some things that even Turnip can't re-think and then emote the opposite.
He won't walk this bit of chaff back. He doesn't have to. It's nothing.
It would be something to hear his thoughts on the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 report. That would elicit a serious of "No, I was tawking about CHAI-NA." type walk-backs.
Posted by Ace
Yes, and...
There are some things that even Turnip can't re-think and then emote the opposite.
He won't walk this bit of chaff back. He doesn't have to. It's nothing.
It would be something to hear his thoughts on the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 report. That would elicit a serious of "No, I was tawking about CHAI-NA." type walk-backs.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (OcD4G)
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I guess Prince just added himself to the list of singers who will no longer perform in North Carolina.
Too soon?
Too soon?
Posted by: Qoheleth at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (iIzG7)
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>>I read an article linked from the Drudge headline. It said his performance at the 2007 Superbowl was "one of the best live performances in history". I was there and I didn't have that reaction to it at all. Of course, it was pouring rain and I was cold and soaked. My ears and eyes still worked though.
I saw a performance that he did at a pre-Super Bowl event that was far better than the show he did at the SB. It is floating around on the intertubes somewhere and worth a look.
I saw a performance that he did at a pre-Super Bowl event that was far better than the show he did at the SB. It is floating around on the intertubes somewhere and worth a look.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (/tuJf)
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"129 i have never seen purple rain....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
it's an okay movie, if you like that sort of thing"
The album was great.
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (0O7c5)
it's an okay movie, if you like that sort of thing"
The album was great.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (OD2ni)
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But, we all know *that* will never happen[/]
Like the gheys who absolutely did not want to force business owners or religious organizations to act against their beliefs. They just wanted tolerance.
Like the gheys who absolutely did not want to force business owners or religious organizations to act against their beliefs. They just wanted tolerance.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (TOssO)
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Pneumonia kills people, especially if they won't take antibiotics
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (zOTsN)
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"...by accepting the changes they have made to how things were. "
Changes?
Where do you think drag queens have been taking a piss up until now?
When is the last time some 6', 3" "girl" in a dress with a 5 o'clock shadow stood next to you at the urinals?
Let it alone. The left is just fucking with you.
Changes?
Where do you think drag queens have been taking a piss up until now?
When is the last time some 6', 3" "girl" in a dress with a 5 o'clock shadow stood next to you at the urinals?
Let it alone. The left is just fucking with you.
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (Zs4uk)
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Trump's new campaign manager and Kasich's campaign manager are business partners.
Posted by: Ralph at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (A6Xv7)
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Trump's wrong on this
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (xuouz)
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What does Trump think? Does he think the law should be left as it is, or that things should have been left as they were?
Trump's wrong on this
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified sidebar at April 21, 2016 01:08 PM (xuouz)
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What does Trump think? Does he think the law should be left as it is, or that things should have been left as they were?
Posted by: iforgot at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (pC96u)
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Holy Shit, Prince dead? I sang Purple Rain at karaoke last night...now I'm really weirded out.
Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (uiwCw)
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Looking around for news about Prince, I saw Hillary gave a speech about we need "positive gangs." They give a sense of family and of belonging to something larger than themselves.
Brownshirts were a gang.
Brownshirts were a gang.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (S3Inb)
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I have one word of wisdom to leave 2 u all. Apollonia.
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (Dwehj)
Also, Kim Bassinger.
I have one word of wisdom to leave 2 u all. Apollonia.
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:19 PM (Dwehj)
Also, Kim Bassinger.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (FsuaD)
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I suppose one can worry, postulate and channel all day long what a politician "might" do. After all, they are ultimately chasing votes and trying to appeal to the widest majority of people.
By the way, some of us call that a clue on the rule of the game. They haven't changes lately by the way.
Incidentally, I'm wondering where some of the more staid, immutable but nice sounding bones that got thrown to conservatives by people like Romney or McCain got them?
Ultimately, we are supposed to buy the idea that Cruz is the right choice because he sticks to his principles. Got it. I like what he states- but does that make him "electable". Conservative just keep saying it does. When I'm done laughing my retort is that is ridiculous. They then point to the polls and tell me his gap with Clinton is less and his negatives are not as high. Really- is the "he sucks less argument still floating around in our party?
I may be Cruz supporter. But I'm not stupid enough to think that Trump is unelectable. As a matter of fact, I think he's much more adept at the electoral game than Cruz.
By the way, some of us call that a clue on the rule of the game. They haven't changes lately by the way.
Incidentally, I'm wondering where some of the more staid, immutable but nice sounding bones that got thrown to conservatives by people like Romney or McCain got them?
Ultimately, we are supposed to buy the idea that Cruz is the right choice because he sticks to his principles. Got it. I like what he states- but does that make him "electable". Conservative just keep saying it does. When I'm done laughing my retort is that is ridiculous. They then point to the polls and tell me his gap with Clinton is less and his negatives are not as high. Really- is the "he sucks less argument still floating around in our party?
I may be Cruz supporter. But I'm not stupid enough to think that Trump is unelectable. As a matter of fact, I think he's much more adept at the electoral game than Cruz.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (O0lVq)
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Otherwise, stop being led around by the nose by cause-driven liberals who promote stupid scenarios for their own purposes.
So, we should agree to let Black Lives Matter set police policy, because it's just so darn divisive to oppose it.
Also, reparations, the sooner we let the left have that as well, the sooner we can put it behind us.
Also, let's get illegal immigration off the table by just agreeing with the left on that, too.
And, oh yeah, the left wants to prosecute climate change deniers. Let 'em! Opposing "Science" just makes us seem like rubes.
And... while I realize some socon Bible-Thumpers have a problem with abortion... I think if we just adopt the "anytime, anywhere, for any reason, funded by taxpayers" position of the left... well, I'm just saying we'll be better off, that's all.
Also, you know how feminist think men who are accused of rape should lose all their civil rights? Yeah, I know that's some stupid shit right there, but what good does fighting it get us?
So, we should agree to let Black Lives Matter set police policy, because it's just so darn divisive to oppose it.
Also, reparations, the sooner we let the left have that as well, the sooner we can put it behind us.
Also, let's get illegal immigration off the table by just agreeing with the left on that, too.
And, oh yeah, the left wants to prosecute climate change deniers. Let 'em! Opposing "Science" just makes us seem like rubes.
And... while I realize some socon Bible-Thumpers have a problem with abortion... I think if we just adopt the "anytime, anywhere, for any reason, funded by taxpayers" position of the left... well, I'm just saying we'll be better off, that's all.
Also, you know how feminist think men who are accused of rape should lose all their civil rights? Yeah, I know that's some stupid shit right there, but what good does fighting it get us?
Posted by: V the K at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (LA7Cm)
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while bloodthirsty savages argue about which infidel city to attack next, here we are arguing over which bathroom to use.
forsooth, what a stupid time to be alive
forsooth, what a stupid time to be alive
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (RKQ/v)
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Prince hit it big in his early 20s.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 21, 2016 01:22 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 21, 2016 01:22 PM (8ZskC)
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I live out near Paisley Park (Prince's studio complex where he died). I'm guessing Hwy 5 traffic is gonna suck for the next couple days.
RIP Prince
RIP Prince
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 21, 2016 01:22 PM (tf9Ne)
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Well God speed Mr Nelson. Heck of a band in heaven.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (zOTsN)
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FWIW, I've got Billy Jeff in my dead pool for 2016.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (FsuaD)
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This man actually said providing separate bathrooms for the gender confused is "discriminatory." SMH.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (+wjl1)
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Then Prince sprayed the audience with something white out of his guitar.
Memories.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (FsuaD)
Oh, my. The Purple Rain Tour with Sheila E on the drums. I was there. In Lexington, KY.
Memories.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:06 PM (FsuaD)
Oh, my. The Purple Rain Tour with Sheila E on the drums. I was there. In Lexington, KY.
Posted by: Triumph the Insult Dog at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (DXFk8)
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Death visited Prince. She wore a raspberry beret. And drove a little red corvette.
Death visited Prince. She wore a raspberry beret. And drove a little red corvette.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (vk99r)
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What does Trump think?
He doesn't 1/2 the time before he speaks, that is the problem....He needs a muzzle and an electrode on his balls
He doesn't 1/2 the time before he speaks, that is the problem....He needs a muzzle and an electrode on his balls
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (V/InG)
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ace, if you are looking for a "Best Of" to run again, that post with Kevin Smith giving a talk on some college campus about the documentary Prince asked him to make was hilarious.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (/tuJf)
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For a skinny little dude, I sure knew how to hit it.
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (Dwehj)
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I remember when little red corvette came out, my friend said, that guy opened for the stones and was booed off the stage.
I liked prince. How sad.
I liked prince. How sad.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (egOGm)
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>>>106 Pretty Much #NeverTrump
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (+wjl1)
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I know it feels good to vent against Trump and that's OK b/c no politician is perfect. They are politicians. McCain's entire career was (and still is) hamstringing Republicans and yet we carried his water b/c Obama was (and is) worse. Romney too.
McCain was/is worse than Trump. And Hillary is worse than Trump. Hell, Hillary will be worse than Obama.
Sometimes life is tough.
Just b/c you find McArthur uncouth it doesn't mean you stop fighting Yamamoto.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (+wjl1)
______
I know it feels good to vent against Trump and that's OK b/c no politician is perfect. They are politicians. McCain's entire career was (and still is) hamstringing Republicans and yet we carried his water b/c Obama was (and is) worse. Romney too.
McCain was/is worse than Trump. And Hillary is worse than Trump. Hell, Hillary will be worse than Obama.
Sometimes life is tough.
Just b/c you find McArthur uncouth it doesn't mean you stop fighting Yamamoto.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (10hEu)
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Where do you think drag queens have been taking a piss up until now?
When is the last time some 6', 3" "girl" in a dress with a 5 o'clock shadow stood next to you at the urinals?
I could care less.
When he is in washing his hands next to my wife, we're gonna "dance".
When is the last time some 6', 3" "girl" in a dress with a 5 o'clock shadow stood next to you at the urinals?
I could care less.
When he is in washing his hands next to my wife, we're gonna "dance".
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (S3Inb)
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (vk99r)
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> Oh, so now the $5 and $10 are getting made over too.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM
I here there'll be new bills made!
Bruce Jenner is going on the $3.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM
I here there'll be new bills made!
Bruce Jenner is going on the $3.
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (IQI2h)
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"155 Holy Shit, Prince dead? I sang Purple Rain at karaoke last night...now I'm really weirded out."
I guess no more dancing on stage with Marilyn Mosby.
I guess no more dancing on stage with Marilyn Mosby.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (qCMvj)
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This man actually said providing separate bathrooms for the gender confused is "discriminatory." SMH.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (+wjl1)
If you only listen to 30% of what Trump says, your much better off...or listen to him when your a tad tipsy
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (+wjl1)
If you only listen to 30% of what Trump says, your much better off...or listen to him when your a tad tipsy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)
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He had some beautiful women around him
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:25 PM (zOTsN)
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Trump is a very reactive and improvisational guy. By which I mean a bullshit artist.
Another shocking first in American politics.
Another shocking first in American politics.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 21, 2016 01:25 PM (Bbsg+)
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I JUST DIED!!!!!
Posted by: Prince at April 21, 2016 01:25 PM (10hEu)
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My all-time favorite SuperBowl half-time show was the one that Prince did. He seriously kicked ass.
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 21, 2016 01:25 PM (TOssO)
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Prince. Never really liked his stuff. 57 is pretty young to die though. What was wrong with him?
Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2016 01:25 PM (Fmupd)
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Holy Shit, Prince dead? I sang Purple Rain at karaoke last night...now I'm really weirded out.
Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (uiwCw)
You see any long lost relatives around today? : )
Posted by: Country Singer at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (uiwCw)
You see any long lost relatives around today? : )
Posted by: Blano at April 21, 2016 01:25 PM (5qEZd)
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>>>>Bummer on Prince. He was eccentric for sure. I actually ran into him
almost literally one day in Minneapolis. He had two massive body guards
with him. He gave me a nod and kept moving. Saw his shows a few times
way back in the day.
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.Prince is just spending a few years dead for tax purposes.
almost literally one day in Minneapolis. He had two massive body guards
with him. He gave me a nod and kept moving. Saw his shows a few times
way back in the day.
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.Prince is just spending a few years dead for tax purposes.
Posted by: Hotblack Desiato at April 21, 2016 01:25 PM (iONHu)
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Would you like some brain pancakes?
Posted by: Zombie Prince at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (10hEu)
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Changes?
Where do you think drag queens have been taking a piss up until now?
When is the last time some 6', 3" "girl" in a dress with a 5 o'clock shadow stood next to you at the urinals?
Let it alone. The left is just fucking with you.
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (Zs4uk)
In my sleepy little hometown in Nebraska, we've got a potbellied 6'00" man who walks around in a pink effing tutu with polka dots every single day for the past ten freaking years. Guy's on disability or something, he never works.
There's a public restroom in our town. Yes, he uses the men's restroom.
Idiotic request for anecdotal evidence: satisfied. Men do not go in the women's room. Women do not go in the men's room.
To redefine the meaning of words and ideas is indeed power. This is power mankind sought originally by challenging God's authority, and it has continued for thousands of years, culminating in the unbelievably stupidity of grown men and women making the argument that there are no consequences or societal drawbacks to marching merrily into a future where gender is nothing more than a societal construct best left in the Dark Ages.
Idiocy of the lowest sort.
Changes?
Where do you think drag queens have been taking a piss up until now?
When is the last time some 6', 3" "girl" in a dress with a 5 o'clock shadow stood next to you at the urinals?
Let it alone. The left is just fucking with you.
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (Zs4uk)
In my sleepy little hometown in Nebraska, we've got a potbellied 6'00" man who walks around in a pink effing tutu with polka dots every single day for the past ten freaking years. Guy's on disability or something, he never works.
There's a public restroom in our town. Yes, he uses the men's restroom.
Idiotic request for anecdotal evidence: satisfied. Men do not go in the women's room. Women do not go in the men's room.
To redefine the meaning of words and ideas is indeed power. This is power mankind sought originally by challenging God's authority, and it has continued for thousands of years, culminating in the unbelievably stupidity of grown men and women making the argument that there are no consequences or societal drawbacks to marching merrily into a future where gender is nothing more than a societal construct best left in the Dark Ages.
Idiocy of the lowest sort.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (6JL3d)
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"Someone can honestly be so demented they really believe they are a woman
when they are clearly a man... and still be a rapist and child
molesting puke."
A large percentage of those who commit sexual offenses against children have somehow managed to become convinced that their child victims actually wished to be victimized, and that the children welcomed it.
That's why the recidivism problem has proven to be so difficult. The offenders are not merely criminals, but also, crazier than a shithouse rat.
Now they get to pick which door of the shithouse to go into.
Hurrah identity politics liberalism!
when they are clearly a man... and still be a rapist and child
molesting puke."
A large percentage of those who commit sexual offenses against children have somehow managed to become convinced that their child victims actually wished to be victimized, and that the children welcomed it.
That's why the recidivism problem has proven to be so difficult. The offenders are not merely criminals, but also, crazier than a shithouse rat.
Now they get to pick which door of the shithouse to go into.
Hurrah identity politics liberalism!
Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (noWW6)
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151 Pneumonia kills people, especially if they won't take antibiotics
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (zOTsN)
And Prednizone.
Posted by: ThunderB at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (zOTsN)
And Prednizone.
Posted by: Triumph the Insult Dog at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (DXFk8)
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Well heck. I never appreciated Prince back in the 80s, and it wasn't until about 20 years later that I realized what a talent he is. Was.
Dammit.
Dammit.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (eytER)
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Purple Rain is the only movie I walked out of in the middle.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (/tuJf)
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Nood. About Prince.
Posted by: HH at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (DrCtv)
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ace, if you are looking for a "Best Of" to run again, that post with
Kevin Smith giving a talk on some college campus about the documentary
Prince asked him to make was hilarious.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (/tuJf)
I recently viewed his talk about trying to write a script for Superman back in the 1990s. Whatever you think of Smith, he is an amazing storyteller. Had it all polished and delivered perfectly. Not everyone has that ability.
ace, if you are looking for a "Best Of" to run again, that post with
Kevin Smith giving a talk on some college campus about the documentary
Prince asked him to make was hilarious.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (/tuJf)
I recently viewed his talk about trying to write a script for Superman back in the 1990s. Whatever you think of Smith, he is an amazing storyteller. Had it all polished and delivered perfectly. Not everyone has that ability.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (4ErVI)
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The business of America in sticking their noses in each others business.
Posted by: TRUMP at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (PNcou)
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Posted by: V the K at April 21, 2016 01:21 PM (O7MnT)
That's right.
We should let all the Black lives matter policy that's in effect right now stand. Leave it alone.
We should continue paying all the reparations currently in law. Leave it alone.
We should follow existing immigration law. Leave it along.
Are you catching on to a pattern here?
That's right.
We should let all the Black lives matter policy that's in effect right now stand. Leave it alone.
We should continue paying all the reparations currently in law. Leave it alone.
We should follow existing immigration law. Leave it along.
Are you catching on to a pattern here?
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (Zs4uk)
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3 This SHOULD be an absolute deal breaker for those who support Trump because they see him as the guy who is taking it to the Social Justice Warrior/PC brigade. This is such a stupid fucking thing for him to say. What a dunce.
Posted by: Rich at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (ygBCA)
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I have said all along that I will vote for ANYONE over Hillary. As evidence of Trump's amoral asininity mounts, I just keep ordering bigger barf bags to use in November.
But THIS is the deal breaker for me. There ain't no bag big enough anymore.
1) He hasn't read the law. (It does not forbid unisex bathrooms. It does not forbid trannies from using the ladies room. It simply states that each venue can accommodate the public as the needs of security and privacy and customer service dictate.)
2) He despises states' rights and federalism. He approves of Big Business, the SJW mob, and Big Government ruling us all uniformly with an iron fist.
3) All he cares about is money.
4) He embraces the Lie. 2+2=5. He's on Big Brother's side.
5) I'll take Hillary, thank you. I prefer a wolf to a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I've had it.
Posted by: Rich at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (ygBCA)
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I have said all along that I will vote for ANYONE over Hillary. As evidence of Trump's amoral asininity mounts, I just keep ordering bigger barf bags to use in November.
But THIS is the deal breaker for me. There ain't no bag big enough anymore.
1) He hasn't read the law. (It does not forbid unisex bathrooms. It does not forbid trannies from using the ladies room. It simply states that each venue can accommodate the public as the needs of security and privacy and customer service dictate.)
2) He despises states' rights and federalism. He approves of Big Business, the SJW mob, and Big Government ruling us all uniformly with an iron fist.
3) All he cares about is money.
4) He embraces the Lie. 2+2=5. He's on Big Brother's side.
5) I'll take Hillary, thank you. I prefer a wolf to a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I've had it.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (T/5A0)
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>If you only listen to 30% of what Trump says, your much better off...or listen to him when your a tad tipsy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)<
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Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)<
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Posted by: Muad'dib at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (ByLlW)
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Its just the back of the $5 being redone, with a mural of leftist events at the Lincoln Memorial. You can be absolutely certain the freaking enormous anti-abortion events held there won't be highlighted, despite eclipsing the others.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (39g3+)
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"When is the last time some 6', 3" "girl" in a dress with a 5 o'clock shadow stood next to you at the urinals?"
According to the movie Repo Man, John Wayne used to answer the door in a dress.
According to the movie Repo Man, John Wayne used to answer the door in a dress.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 21, 2016 01:26 PM (OD2ni)
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>> I heard that one as "Two Corinthians and a Naugahyde walk into a bar....
A leather bar, I'm guessing.
A leather bar, I'm guessing.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 21, 2016 01:27 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Zombie Abe Vigoda at April 21, 2016 01:27 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: V the K at April 21, 2016 01:27 PM (O7MnT)
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I'm still alive.
Posted by: Keith Richards at April 21, 2016 01:27 PM (FwRqg)
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Prince has eaten his last pancake.
Posted by: MacGruber at April 21, 2016 01:27 PM (kQBSd)
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Very sad about Prince. He was an odd guy, but what a talent.
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I'm shocked. Totally shocked. And yes, he was an odd, but extremely talented person. I've always been strangely attracted to Prince. Not in a "he's HOT!" way, but just his talent and his differentness.
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I'm shocked. Totally shocked. And yes, he was an odd, but extremely talented person. I've always been strangely attracted to Prince. Not in a "he's HOT!" way, but just his talent and his differentness.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 21, 2016 01:27 PM (+FSld)
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Thank you Prince for now officially taking the heat off of me!
Posted by: Donald Trump at April 21, 2016 01:28 PM (/E+t2)
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Cruz: A few months ago, Donald told us he could be the most politically correct person on Earth. Now I guess he's showing us what that looks like.
I am waiting with anticipation for the new baseball caps that say #MakePCGreatAgain.
*snort*
Cruz: A few months ago, Donald told us he could be the most politically correct person on Earth. Now I guess he's showing us what that looks like.
I am waiting with anticipation for the new baseball caps that say #MakePCGreatAgain.
*snort*
Posted by: Tami at April 21, 2016 01:28 PM (v0/PR)
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I don't want to go on the cart!
Posted by: Prince at April 21, 2016 01:29 PM (kTF2Z)
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Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (Zs4uk)
I don't know if you've ever pissed next to me.
I don't know if you've ever pissed next to me.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 21, 2016 01:29 PM (zFzxj)
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I refuse to ever again play a concert in North Carolina
Posted by: Prince at April 21, 2016 01:29 PM (PNcou)
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This SHOULD be an absolute deal breaker for those
who support Trump because they see him as the guy who is taking it to
the Social Justice Warrior/PC brigade. This is such a stupid fucking
thing for him to say. What a dunce.
Posted by: Rich at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (ygBCA)
They just don't care... it should have been the end of his support when he supported PP and H1B and H2B visas too (he actually went with the line jobs Americans don't want). They should take notice as they are going batshit over Heidi Cruz being on the Council of Foreign relations that Trump's chief security advisor heads up CFR... but they don't.
This should be the end logically but you can't logic someone out of a position that they didn't arrive at through logic.
who support Trump because they see him as the guy who is taking it to
the Social Justice Warrior/PC brigade. This is such a stupid fucking
thing for him to say. What a dunce.
Posted by: Rich at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (ygBCA)
They just don't care... it should have been the end of his support when he supported PP and H1B and H2B visas too (he actually went with the line jobs Americans don't want). They should take notice as they are going batshit over Heidi Cruz being on the Council of Foreign relations that Trump's chief security advisor heads up CFR... but they don't.
This should be the end logically but you can't logic someone out of a position that they didn't arrive at through logic.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:29 PM (3JA/M)
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One day in July in Provincetown, MA is all you'll ever need to see trannies of all shapes and sizes. Shopping for salt water taffy next to 6 year olds, the bearded men wearing nothing but corsets-bikinis are always crowd pleasers. Or the scraggly old guy wearing a robe and make-up, carrying a ferret, he's always fun.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2016 01:29 PM (2cS/G)
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FWIW, I've got Billy Jeff in my dead pool for 2016.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (FsuaD)
That's something the HQ absolutely should run every year.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 21, 2016 01:23 PM (FsuaD)
That's something the HQ absolutely should run every year.
Posted by: Blano at April 21, 2016 01:29 PM (V+rgX)
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Trump screwed the pooch on this issue.
POTUS doesn't have much to do w/it, SCOTUS noms aside (who do what they please regardless of prior expectations).
Priorities.
FWIW, he seems more SoLib on gays than other issues for whatever reason.
Should be a state-by-state call, but unless he goes "executive orders" on it, I'll take my lumps and still vote for the candidate most preferred against Hillary.
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Immigration, trade, no war w/Russia, Syrian nation-building are more important than gheys/trannys.
3/4 of what I want beats another Bush administration.
POTUS doesn't have much to do w/it, SCOTUS noms aside (who do what they please regardless of prior expectations).
Priorities.
FWIW, he seems more SoLib on gays than other issues for whatever reason.
Should be a state-by-state call, but unless he goes "executive orders" on it, I'll take my lumps and still vote for the candidate most preferred against Hillary.
The perfect is the enemy of the good. Immigration, trade, no war w/Russia, Syrian nation-building are more important than gheys/trannys.
3/4 of what I want beats another Bush administration.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 21, 2016 01:30 PM (iWNLe)
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If this is who Republicans select after the field we started our with, we deserve for Hillary to win.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (+wjl1)
Don't say that. I know I don't deserve hillary.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (V/InG)
I don't either, personally, but the collective we do if this man is the best we could come up with. People do dumb things and innocent people suffer. Happens all the time.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:15 PM (+wjl1)
Don't say that. I know I don't deserve hillary.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (V/InG)
I don't either, personally, but the collective we do if this man is the best we could come up with. People do dumb things and innocent people suffer. Happens all the time.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:30 PM (+wjl1)
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One day in July in Provincetown, MA is all you'll ever need to see trannies of all shapes and sizes. Shopping for salt water taffy next to 6 year olds, the bearded men wearing nothing but corsets-bikinis are always crowd pleasers. Or the scraggly old guy wearing a robe and make-up, carrying a ferret, he's always fun.
And they regard people who go to church on Sunday and vote Republican as freaks.
And they regard people who go to church on Sunday and vote Republican as freaks.
Posted by: V the K at April 21, 2016 01:31 PM (O7MnT)
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I wasn't a fan of a lot of Prince's stuff but I could not deny his immense talent and influence on music and art. The man was a genius, a towering figure compared to those around him. If he's died, its a sad day. Most of the time really, really talented geniuses are very strange people and its best not to know their personal lives.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 01:31 PM (39g3+)
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We have Chyna. We have Prince. We have many MANY Abe Vigodas
We out number you squishy warmlings. And we will bury you!
We out number you squishy warmlings. And we will bury you!
Posted by: Zombie Legion at April 21, 2016 01:32 PM (10hEu)
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Check out Prince's kick-ass guitar solo at the end of this all-star rendition of 'While My Guitar Gently Weeps':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y
Posted by: OregonMuse at April 21, 2016 01:32 PM (TOssO)
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 21, 2016 01:32 PM (PNcou)
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What went wrong in your brain, that you cannot see the inherent contradiction in what you just wrote?
Stop being led around by liberals... into situations they want... by accepting the changes they have made to how things were.
Are ya serious with this??
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (6JL3d)
It's jwest. He can't help himself. Even other Trump supporters here aren't defending this, but jwest is special.
Stop being led around by liberals... into situations they want... by accepting the changes they have made to how things were.
Are ya serious with this??
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:17 PM (6JL3d)
It's jwest. He can't help himself. Even other Trump supporters here aren't defending this, but jwest is special.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:32 PM (+wjl1)
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Let it alone. The left is just fucking with you.
.Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (Zs4uk)
No, they are not messing around, they want to dominate. They want to be the predominate culture which means they want to destroy this country.
Brick by brick.
.Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2016 01:20 PM (Zs4uk)
No, they are not messing around, they want to dominate. They want to be the predominate culture which means they want to destroy this country.
Brick by brick.
Posted by: Ralph at April 21, 2016 01:32 PM (A6Xv7)
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I am sad to see Prince go. I had the privilege to see a great show he put on in Oakland half-a-dozen years back or so, which also featured Larry Graham and Sheila E.
As much as I loved that show, anything Prince played that was recorded after 1991 was met with bored indifference by the audience. Many of us miss Prince, but there should be some perspective: Despite being a prolific music creator, Prince has not contributed to the culture (musically or otherwise) since 1991's Diamonds and Pearls. The 20 or so (mostly self-produced) albums pumped out since then are forgettable if they can be recalled at all.
As much as I loved that show, anything Prince played that was recorded after 1991 was met with bored indifference by the audience. Many of us miss Prince, but there should be some perspective: Despite being a prolific music creator, Prince has not contributed to the culture (musically or otherwise) since 1991's Diamonds and Pearls. The 20 or so (mostly self-produced) albums pumped out since then are forgettable if they can be recalled at all.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at April 21, 2016 01:32 PM (S2VsH)
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OMG.....the most important issue is allowing grown men the right to watch little girls pee. I was a big time trump supporter..... it this is a deal breaker
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at April 21, 2016 01:33 PM (egzLR)
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TRUMP F*CKS DOGS?
TRUMP F*CKS DOGS?
Posted by: Andrew Jackson's Sharpton Parrot at April 21, 2016 01:33 PM (KId5h)
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"Next celeb to die: George Bush the elder."
::: incredibly annoying nasal voice :::
"Not at this juncture. Wouldn't be prudent."
::: incredibly annoying nasal voice :::
"Not at this juncture. Wouldn't be prudent."
Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2016 01:33 PM (noWW6)
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Don't say that. I know I don't deserve hillary.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (V/InG) ]/I]
You don't deserve Trump either.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (V/InG) ]/I]
You don't deserve Trump either.
Posted by: V the K at April 21, 2016 01:34 PM (O7MnT)
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115 Broken eggs, cheese, water, butter, rape in the women's bathroom; all necessary for How To Make A Rape Omelette>>>
There's some butter in the kitchen.
There's some butter in the kitchen.
Posted by: Marlon Brando at April 21, 2016 01:35 PM (0mRoj)
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Don't say that. I know I don't deserve hillary.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (V/InG)
Whether you believe you do or not, NGU... and it is an entirely foreseeable consequence of supporting a progressive like Trump for the Republican nomination.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:16 PM (V/InG)
Whether you believe you do or not, NGU... and it is an entirely foreseeable consequence of supporting a progressive like Trump for the Republican nomination.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:36 PM (3JA/M)
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Trump is pure left. The historical left. The anti authority left. He is not a liberal and today aligns "better" with what is called right wing conservatism but he is purely of the left. Like myself and like many of his supporters. This is a pure left position he is taking like all of his others.
This is a tricky instance in general because while the wind has blown such that squawking trannies and agitating organizations nowadays FEEL like they have the authority, in this case the ACTUAL authority in NC came down against them.
So a historical leftist will today generally be on the side of the anti-LGBTQ (as they are the group that is empowered in the present). But in this case, by NC essentially quashing their presumed authority and reasserting its own held authority, a true leftist will now be put back into opposition of the state on the basis of its attempt to be authoritative failing miserably on numerous economic and social fronts.
So let's see.....prior to enacting this legislation, NC presumably had relatively minor problems. A few squawking trannies here and a few interstate commerce issues related to transporting cartons of cheap cigarettes there. Now they have a shit salad of their own concoction with industry and tourism being beaten to piss. Over what? What was the best solution here now given hindsight? To leave it like it was.
This is a tricky instance in general because while the wind has blown such that squawking trannies and agitating organizations nowadays FEEL like they have the authority, in this case the ACTUAL authority in NC came down against them.
So a historical leftist will today generally be on the side of the anti-LGBTQ (as they are the group that is empowered in the present). But in this case, by NC essentially quashing their presumed authority and reasserting its own held authority, a true leftist will now be put back into opposition of the state on the basis of its attempt to be authoritative failing miserably on numerous economic and social fronts.
So let's see.....prior to enacting this legislation, NC presumably had relatively minor problems. A few squawking trannies here and a few interstate commerce issues related to transporting cartons of cheap cigarettes there. Now they have a shit salad of their own concoction with industry and tourism being beaten to piss. Over what? What was the best solution here now given hindsight? To leave it like it was.
Posted by: the other right at April 21, 2016 01:36 PM (MGAli)
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This is why there's no trust anywhere in politics.
No one is truly on anyone else's side.
On the Left, they routinely eat each other in a constant battle for supremacy over a veritable army of layabouts, misfits, miscreants, and perpetually malcontent sowers of discord.
On the Right, the only thing keeping the alliance together is the cause
of money and taxation. Even that is a lie promulgated by the GOPe,
individuals who agree with the Democrats on virtually everything, only
differing in degree. We are not allies in anything. There is Left-Right, and Right-Right, and twenty factions inside each; we do not agree on abortion, we do not agree on raising children, we do not even agree anymore on whether or not men and women are indeed men and women.
This country is too badly fractured by its pursuit of each individual's pursuit of their personal lusts and erotic passions to avoid a real, actual war. We cannot unite because too few individuals can look past the things they desire and see the things that must be held sacred, the standards that must be upheld, lest all should come crashing down around us.
We can't see that, blinded by our pleasures and entertainment, and so we will end up laying blame, each of us on one another, when society can no longer move forward under its own weight and the collapse finally happens. Then there will be blood and horror and death, and, a little while after the noise has died down, we will look out at the ruins of what was the greatest country in the world, at one another who have killed their brothers and sisters and countrymen in the name of freedom, and have nothing left in us but to ask of God just what it is that we have done.
May the Lord preserve all the children in the horrors that are coming. They do not deserve the terror their forebears' sins are bringing down on them.
No one is truly on anyone else's side.
On the Left, they routinely eat each other in a constant battle for supremacy over a veritable army of layabouts, misfits, miscreants, and perpetually malcontent sowers of discord.
On the Right, the only thing keeping the alliance together is the cause
of money and taxation. Even that is a lie promulgated by the GOPe,
individuals who agree with the Democrats on virtually everything, only
differing in degree. We are not allies in anything. There is Left-Right, and Right-Right, and twenty factions inside each; we do not agree on abortion, we do not agree on raising children, we do not even agree anymore on whether or not men and women are indeed men and women.
This country is too badly fractured by its pursuit of each individual's pursuit of their personal lusts and erotic passions to avoid a real, actual war. We cannot unite because too few individuals can look past the things they desire and see the things that must be held sacred, the standards that must be upheld, lest all should come crashing down around us.
We can't see that, blinded by our pleasures and entertainment, and so we will end up laying blame, each of us on one another, when society can no longer move forward under its own weight and the collapse finally happens. Then there will be blood and horror and death, and, a little while after the noise has died down, we will look out at the ruins of what was the greatest country in the world, at one another who have killed their brothers and sisters and countrymen in the name of freedom, and have nothing left in us but to ask of God just what it is that we have done.
May the Lord preserve all the children in the horrors that are coming. They do not deserve the terror their forebears' sins are bringing down on them.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:36 PM (6JL3d)
Posted by: Andrew Jackson's Sharpton Parrot at April 21, 2016 01:36 PM (KId5h)
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Trump screwed the pooch on this issue.
Priorities.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 21, 2016 01:30 PM (iWNLe)
Trump screws the pooch on every issue.
Priorities.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 21, 2016 01:30 PM (iWNLe)
Trump screws the pooch on every issue.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:38 PM (3JA/M)
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Prince. I didn't really like his music, but I respected him. He had a big influence on pop music and was extraordinarily popular.
And a heckuva basketball player too, it seemed.
And a heckuva basketball player too, it seemed.
Posted by: MacGruber at April 21, 2016 01:38 PM (kQBSd)
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"In my sleepy little hometown in Nebraska, we've got a potbellied 6'00"
man who walks around in a pink effing tutu with polka dots every single day for the past ten freaking years. Guy's on disability or something, he never works."
A couple of years ago, there was a news article about a man who has an "adult baby" fetish. He derives his sexual gratification from having a woman pretend to be his mommy, then putting him in a diaper, and then his doing, well, the thing that babies do in diapers. Yeesh.
He had been declared SSI-disabled because he had found a psychiatrist to testify that his fetish was too powerful to enable him to maintain gainful employment. So the rest of us pay for him to enjoy sitting around the house in his diaper all day, and pay for a woman to come in and pretend to be mommy.
This is not being made up. You couldn't make this stuff up.
man who walks around in a pink effing tutu with polka dots every single day for the past ten freaking years. Guy's on disability or something, he never works."
A couple of years ago, there was a news article about a man who has an "adult baby" fetish. He derives his sexual gratification from having a woman pretend to be his mommy, then putting him in a diaper, and then his doing, well, the thing that babies do in diapers. Yeesh.
He had been declared SSI-disabled because he had found a psychiatrist to testify that his fetish was too powerful to enable him to maintain gainful employment. So the rest of us pay for him to enjoy sitting around the house in his diaper all day, and pay for a woman to come in and pretend to be mommy.
This is not being made up. You couldn't make this stuff up.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2016 01:38 PM (noWW6)
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Jehovah's Witness have strict rules about medical intervention as well. No blood transfusions for one
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That's why i'll never join. monstrous.
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That's why i'll never join. monstrous.
Posted by: Dracula at April 21, 2016 01:39 PM (oGRue)
Posted by: Andrew Jackson's Parrot at April 21, 2016 01:40 PM (KId5h)
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This is not being made up. You couldn't make this stuff up.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2016 01:38 PM (noWW6)
I remember the story you are talking about. In fact, there was another, similar story, about a similar individual, claiming he was an adult infant, who was determined self-sufficient because he had some carpentry skills, and sold baby cribs on the side while he lived at home (receiving SS/disability/what have you), and the State decided to cut his SS off.
The layabout then wrote a very public letter, which, IIRC, the LA Times published, threatening to commit suicide if the world took away 'the one thing keeping him here' - his government paychecks.
I love the Lord's children, all of them, even the rebellious ones; but jackass, if you are gonna threaten to off yourself unless the rest of the world pays you to pretend to be an infant, then by all means, do what you must. I am not willing to entertain these lies.
This is not being made up. You couldn't make this stuff up.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 21, 2016 01:38 PM (noWW6)
I remember the story you are talking about. In fact, there was another, similar story, about a similar individual, claiming he was an adult infant, who was determined self-sufficient because he had some carpentry skills, and sold baby cribs on the side while he lived at home (receiving SS/disability/what have you), and the State decided to cut his SS off.
The layabout then wrote a very public letter, which, IIRC, the LA Times published, threatening to commit suicide if the world took away 'the one thing keeping him here' - his government paychecks.
I love the Lord's children, all of them, even the rebellious ones; but jackass, if you are gonna threaten to off yourself unless the rest of the world pays you to pretend to be an infant, then by all means, do what you must. I am not willing to entertain these lies.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:42 PM (6JL3d)
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I know it feels good to vent against Trump and that's OK b/c no politician is perfect. They are politicians. McCain's entire career was (and still is) hamstringing Republicans and yet we carried his water b/c Obama was (and is) worse. Romney too.
McCain was/is worse than Trump. And Hillary is worse than Trump. Hell, Hillary will be worse than Obama.
Sometimes life is tough.
Just b/c you find McArthur uncouth it doesn't mean you stop fighting Yamamoto.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (10hEu)
It's not about feeling good. I started liking Trump but have disliked him for some time now, my disliked growing each passing day because of his words and actions. Still, I was willing to vote for him in the general.
I have recently been thinking more about what he has been doing and growing more and more alarmed at its effect on the right. Now this. That was the final straw. This is a well thought out decision. It does not make me feel good.
And just because McCain is an insufferable jerk doesn't mean I have to support Trump.
I wasn't going to vote for Jeb either in the general.
McCain was/is worse than Trump. And Hillary is worse than Trump. Hell, Hillary will be worse than Obama.
Sometimes life is tough.
Just b/c you find McArthur uncouth it doesn't mean you stop fighting Yamamoto.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (10hEu)
It's not about feeling good. I started liking Trump but have disliked him for some time now, my disliked growing each passing day because of his words and actions. Still, I was willing to vote for him in the general.
I have recently been thinking more about what he has been doing and growing more and more alarmed at its effect on the right. Now this. That was the final straw. This is a well thought out decision. It does not make me feel good.
And just because McCain is an insufferable jerk doesn't mean I have to support Trump.
I wasn't going to vote for Jeb either in the general.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:43 PM (+wjl1)
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I know it feels good to vent against Trump and
that's OK b/c no politician is perfect. They are politicians. McCain's
entire career was (and still is) hamstringing Republicans and yet we
carried his water b/c Obama was (and is) worse. Romney too.
McCain was/is worse than Trump. And Hillary is worse than Trump. Hell, Hillary will be worse than Obama.
Sometimes life is tough.
Just b/c you find McArthur uncouth it doesn't mean you stop fighting Yamamoto.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (10hEu)
You are wrong. As much as I hate McCain, he is not worse than Trump.
that's OK b/c no politician is perfect. They are politicians. McCain's
entire career was (and still is) hamstringing Republicans and yet we
carried his water b/c Obama was (and is) worse. Romney too.
McCain was/is worse than Trump. And Hillary is worse than Trump. Hell, Hillary will be worse than Obama.
Sometimes life is tough.
Just b/c you find McArthur uncouth it doesn't mean you stop fighting Yamamoto.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (10hEu)
You are wrong. As much as I hate McCain, he is not worse than Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:43 PM (3JA/M)
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If you only listen to 30% of what Trump says, your much better off...or listen to him when your a tad tipsy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)
If he wins, he'll be president 100% of the time.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)
If he wins, he'll be president 100% of the time.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:44 PM (+wjl1)
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We had a 2 hour transgender awareness training. Bottom line don't tell anyone what bathroom or locker room to use. I asked the teacher what time she went to the gym ..I said. Want to watch you undress...she had a went all bat shit crazy....yea....guess the rule doesn't apply to her
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at April 21, 2016 01:44 PM (egzLR)
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It's not about feeling good. I started liking
Trump but have disliked him for some time now, my disliked growing each
passing day because of his words and actions. Still, I was willing to
vote for him in the general.
I have recently been thinking more about what he has been doing and
growing more and more alarmed at its effect on the right. Now this.
That was the final straw. This is a well thought out decision. It does
not make me feel good.
And just because McCain is an insufferable jerk doesn't mean I have to support Trump.
I wasn't going to vote for Jeb either in the general.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:43 PM (+wjl1)
Concur with this sentiment in its entirety. This clown show's over.
Trump but have disliked him for some time now, my disliked growing each
passing day because of his words and actions. Still, I was willing to
vote for him in the general.
I have recently been thinking more about what he has been doing and
growing more and more alarmed at its effect on the right. Now this.
That was the final straw. This is a well thought out decision. It does
not make me feel good.
And just because McCain is an insufferable jerk doesn't mean I have to support Trump.
I wasn't going to vote for Jeb either in the general.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:43 PM (+wjl1)
Concur with this sentiment in its entirety. This clown show's over.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 21, 2016 01:45 PM (6JL3d)
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Trump screws the pooch on every issue.
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So you're for open borders, more "refugees," war w/Russia, Syria, Iran ISIS (simultaneously), more "free" trade (outsourcing) ?
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So you're for open borders, more "refugees," war w/Russia, Syria, Iran ISIS (simultaneously), more "free" trade (outsourcing) ?
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 21, 2016 01:46 PM (iWNLe)
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If you only listen to 30% of what Trump says, your much better off...or listen to him when your a tad tipsy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)
If he wins, he'll be president 100% of the time.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:44 PM (+wjl1)
And we don't feel like succumbing to alcohol poisoning from the massive amounts of booze it would take to get through even the first year of a theoretical Trump presidency.
If you only listen to 30% of what Trump says, your much better off...or listen to him when your a tad tipsy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)
If he wins, he'll be president 100% of the time.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:44 PM (+wjl1)
And we don't feel like succumbing to alcohol poisoning from the massive amounts of booze it would take to get through even the first year of a theoretical Trump presidency.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:46 PM (3JA/M)
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233---So let's see.....prior to enacting this legislation, NC presumably had relatively minor problems. A few squawking trannies here and a few interstate commerce issues related to transporting cartons of cheap cigarettes there. Now they have a shit salad of their own concoction with industry and tourism being beaten to piss. Over what? What was the best solution here now given hindsight? To leave it like it was.
Posted by: the other right at April 21, 2016 01:36 PM (MGAli)
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Like Trump, you are ignorant.
What the NC legislature wanted to do was to LEAVE IT AS IT WAS.
The bill was in response to a city of Charlotte ordinance that would not leave things as they were. Charlotte was FORCING the admission of men (ALL men, however dressed) into ladies' rooms and locker rooms.
The bill did NOT say you couldn't have unisex showers. It said each venue could do what they think works best to accommodate the public.
IOW, they wanted to leave it the way it was.
Posted by: the other right at April 21, 2016 01:36 PM (MGAli)
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Like Trump, you are ignorant.
What the NC legislature wanted to do was to LEAVE IT AS IT WAS.
The bill was in response to a city of Charlotte ordinance that would not leave things as they were. Charlotte was FORCING the admission of men (ALL men, however dressed) into ladies' rooms and locker rooms.
The bill did NOT say you couldn't have unisex showers. It said each venue could do what they think works best to accommodate the public.
IOW, they wanted to leave it the way it was.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 01:46 PM (T/5A0)
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This SHOULD be an absolute deal breaker for those who support Trump because they see him as the guy who is taking it to the Social Justice Warrior/PC brigade. This is such a stupid fucking thing for him to say. What a dunce.
Posted by: Rich at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (ygBCA)
The Hill to Die On is restroom politics.
Say what?
Posted by: Rich at April 21, 2016 12:55 PM (ygBCA)
The Hill to Die On is restroom politics.
Say what?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 01:48 PM (uURQL)
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You are wrong. As much as I hate McCain, he is not worse than Trump.
What has Trump done, with his official position as Senator, that is worse than McCain?
What has Trump done, with his official position as Senator, that is worse than McCain?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:49 PM (S3Inb)
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Trump supporter here, and I disagree with him on this. Also, are we going to talk about Ted's weird speech in New York where he said "America has always been best when she is lying down with her back on the mat."
Dude's a fucking weirdo.
Dude's a fucking weirdo.
Posted by: Community Organizer at April 21, 2016 01:49 PM (9VLhN)
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How about a million man March into every Target ladies room around the county....
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at April 21, 2016 01:49 PM (egzLR)
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So you're for open borders, more "refugees," war w/Russia, Syria, Iran ISIS (simultaneously), more "free" trade (outsourcing) ?
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 21, 2016 01:46 PM (iWNLe)
Trump is for open borders (touch back amnesty and massively increasing H1B and H2B visa programs THAT HE BENEFITS FROM).
And free trade is a very good thing in general for society. What isn't good for society is the crony socialism that has had Trump in bed with politicians his entire life. What isn't good for society is the strangling hold of regulation that Trump will do nothing about... because it favors elites like him.
So you're for open borders, more "refugees," war w/Russia, Syria, Iran ISIS (simultaneously), more "free" trade (outsourcing) ?
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at April 21, 2016 01:46 PM (iWNLe)
Trump is for open borders (touch back amnesty and massively increasing H1B and H2B visa programs THAT HE BENEFITS FROM).
And free trade is a very good thing in general for society. What isn't good for society is the crony socialism that has had Trump in bed with politicians his entire life. What isn't good for society is the strangling hold of regulation that Trump will do nothing about... because it favors elites like him.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:50 PM (3JA/M)
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Sorry, the speech was in Philadelphia, not New York.
Posted by: Community Organizer at April 21, 2016 01:50 PM (9VLhN)
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I'm curious has anybody in a dress ever been denied access to a women's washroom? Barring, of course, obvious facial hair.
Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 21, 2016 01:50 PM (L09za)
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If you only listen to 30% of what Trump says, your much better off...or listen to him when your a tad tipsy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)
If he wins, he'll be president 100% of the time.
Barky is, and I've listened to him <1% of the time.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2016 01:24 PM (V/InG)
If he wins, he'll be president 100% of the time.
Barky is, and I've listened to him <1% of the time.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:50 PM (S3Inb)
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What has Trump done, with his official position as Senator, that is worse than McCain?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:49 PM (S3Inb)
Stupid question as Trump is not a Senator.
What has Trump done, with his official position as Senator, that is worse than McCain?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:49 PM (S3Inb)
Stupid question as Trump is not a Senator.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:53 PM (3JA/M)
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They were denied access if the were behind Hillary
Posted by: MrKnowItAll at April 21, 2016 01:53 PM (egzLR)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:54 PM (S3Inb)
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Pedey goes deep, Sox up 2-1 over the Rays in the second.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 21, 2016 01:54 PM (2cS/G)
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Ding ding ding!
McCain has. And is.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:54 PM (S3Inb)
George Soros has never been in office. Does that make him better than even a crappy senator like McCain.
Pretty sure Trump would have voted for Obamacare. McCain didn't.
McCain has. And is.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:54 PM (S3Inb)
George Soros has never been in office. Does that make him better than even a crappy senator like McCain.
Pretty sure Trump would have voted for Obamacare. McCain didn't.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:56 PM (+wjl1)
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256 I'm curious has anybody in a dress ever been denied access to a women's washroom? Barring, of course, obvious facial hair.
Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 21, 2016 01:50 PM (L09za)
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Of course not. If someone is dressed like a woman, looks like a woman, and acts like one, who would know or care?
The big change was the Charlotte ordinance, which said that you had to let men who look like men and obviously have male parts into ladies' rooms--- and locker rooms. Because they may feeeel they are women. So ANY man can walk in a girls' shower room, e.g.
All the NC bill did was to say, no, leave it the way it was.
Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 21, 2016 01:50 PM (L09za)
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Of course not. If someone is dressed like a woman, looks like a woman, and acts like one, who would know or care?
The big change was the Charlotte ordinance, which said that you had to let men who look like men and obviously have male parts into ladies' rooms--- and locker rooms. Because they may feeeel they are women. So ANY man can walk in a girls' shower room, e.g.
All the NC bill did was to say, no, leave it the way it was.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 01:57 PM (T/5A0)
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the worst thing about the office restroom are the guys who take their regular never miss a day always in there every f'ing time morning dumps at work.
Posted by: x at April 21, 2016 01:57 PM (nFwvY)
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Pretty sure Trump would have voted for Obamacare. McCain didn't.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:56 PM (+wjl1)
Appealing to your imagination is not evidence.
Someone else imagines he doesn't. Cancels out.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:56 PM (+wjl1)
Appealing to your imagination is not evidence.
Someone else imagines he doesn't. Cancels out.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 01:58 PM (uURQL)
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Ding ding ding!
McCain has. And is.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:54 PM (S3Inb)
Still a stupid question rick... non-Senators... especially ones that want to be president have records and positions that should be examined also. I could just as fairly dismiss the terribleness of McCain by asking what universities has he formed that defrauded the public. The answer would be none but that does not make him any less terrible.
Ding ding ding!
McCain has. And is.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:54 PM (S3Inb)
Still a stupid question rick... non-Senators... especially ones that want to be president have records and positions that should be examined also. I could just as fairly dismiss the terribleness of McCain by asking what universities has he formed that defrauded the public. The answer would be none but that does not make him any less terrible.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 01:58 PM (3JA/M)
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the worst thing about the office restroom are the guys who take their regular never miss a day always in there every f'ing time morning dumps at work.
"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I shit on company time!"
"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I shit on company time!"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 01:59 PM (S3Inb)
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Pretty sure Trump would have voted for Obamacare. McCain didn't.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:56 PM (+wjl1)
Appealing to your imagination is not evidence.
Someone else imagines he doesn't. Cancels out.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 01:58 PM (uURQL)
The man has said he likes single payer. What I said is not a stretch.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:56 PM (+wjl1)
Appealing to your imagination is not evidence.
Someone else imagines he doesn't. Cancels out.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 01:58 PM (uURQL)
The man has said he likes single payer. What I said is not a stretch.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:59 PM (+wjl1)
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Still a stupid question rick... non-Senators... especially ones that want to be president have records and positions that should be examined also. I could just as fairly dismiss the terribleness of McCain by asking what universities has he formed that defrauded the public. The answer would be none but that does not make him any less terrible.
No. You let your Trump hate flag fly so high that you think Trump will be worse than a PROVEN train wreck.
No. You let your Trump hate flag fly so high that you think Trump will be worse than a PROVEN train wreck.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 02:00 PM (S3Inb)
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252 Trump supporter here, and I disagree with him on this. Also, are we going to talk about Ted's weird speech in New York where he said "America has always been best when she is lying down with her back on the mat."
Dude's a fucking weirdo.
Posted by: Community Organizer at April 21, 2016 01:49 PM (9VLhN)
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Fine. Cruz is a creep and weirdo. Fine.
Then I'll take Kasich.
You think trashing Cruz is a defense of Trump?!?
I notice that's all many of you Trump-lovers have.
Because you can't defend Trump.
Dude's a fucking weirdo.
Posted by: Community Organizer at April 21, 2016 01:49 PM (9VLhN)
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Fine. Cruz is a creep and weirdo. Fine.
Then I'll take Kasich.
You think trashing Cruz is a defense of Trump?!?
I notice that's all many of you Trump-lovers have.
Because you can't defend Trump.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (T/5A0)
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Ok, let me rephrase. Senator Trump would have voted for single payer if there was such a bill. McCain wouldn't have.
Better?
Better?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (+wjl1)
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Pretty sure Trump would have voted for Obamacare. McCain didn't.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:56 PM (+wjl1)
Appealing to your imagination is not evidence.
Someone else imagines he doesn't. Cancels out.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 01:58 PM (uURQL)
She doesn't need to appeal to her imagination... she just has to look at Trump's historical statements in favor of single payer healthcare and his statements in favor of the individual mandate and universal government paid for health insurance to draw the only logical conclusion of what he would do.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:56 PM (+wjl1)
Appealing to your imagination is not evidence.
Someone else imagines he doesn't. Cancels out.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 01:58 PM (uURQL)
She doesn't need to appeal to her imagination... she just has to look at Trump's historical statements in favor of single payer healthcare and his statements in favor of the individual mandate and universal government paid for health insurance to draw the only logical conclusion of what he would do.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:03 PM (3JA/M)
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You think trashing Cruz is a defense of Trump?!?
I notice that's all many of you Trump-lovers have.
Because you can't defend Trump.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (T/5A0)
Notice he doesn't bring up Trump saying Pearl harbor wasn't as bad as 9/11 because only military died at Pearl harbor.
Now a sensible person might recognize Cruz was using a boxing metaphor, but I guess metaphors are hard.
I notice that's all many of you Trump-lovers have.
Because you can't defend Trump.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (T/5A0)
Notice he doesn't bring up Trump saying Pearl harbor wasn't as bad as 9/11 because only military died at Pearl harbor.
Now a sensible person might recognize Cruz was using a boxing metaphor, but I guess metaphors are hard.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:03 PM (+wjl1)
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You think trashing Cruz is a defense of Trump?!?
I notice that's all many of you Trump-lovers have.
Because you can't defend Trump.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (T/5A0)
This.
I notice that's all many of you Trump-lovers have.
Because you can't defend Trump.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (T/5A0)
This.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:04 PM (3JA/M)
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Ok, let me rephrase. Senator Trump would have voted for single payer if there was such a bill. McCain wouldn't have.
Better?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (+wjl1)
That's better.
Too hypothetical for my taste, though. Why would Trump be a Senator when he's the sort who wants to be President?
"If I were president ... "
Better?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:01 PM (+wjl1)
That's better.
Too hypothetical for my taste, though. Why would Trump be a Senator when he's the sort who wants to be President?
"If I were president ... "
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (uURQL)
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>>>242
It's not about feeling good. I started liking Trump but have disliked him for some time now, my disliked growing each passing day because of his words and actions. Still, I was willing to vote for him in the general.
I have recently been thinking more about what he has been doing and growing more and more alarmed at its effect on the right. Now this. That was the final straw. This is a well thought out decision. It does not make me feel good.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:43 PM (+wjl1)
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Yes exactly, it does not make us feel good to support someone we don't like.
And yes, Trump will likely change his position on this gaffe and that is a good thing. We want a politician that changes his tone when his base gets angry. Look at Trump on the abortion gaffe. You want Milton Friedman's bad politician forced to do the right thing and that will happen here.
Because every politician is going to make mistakes. A lot of them in fact. You want a politician who will recognize it and go back and fix it, when it can be fixed.
Now look at Paul Ryan or Jeb or even Rick Perry. They are inflexible on amnesty. They know the base hates it and they DO NOT CARE. Rubio had the sense to lie better, but when it was game time he did not care that the base hated it.
When Trump fixes this, as ace predicts, it will show that Trump is not a crazy unbending demagogue. Trump can self correct.
It's not about feeling good. I started liking Trump but have disliked him for some time now, my disliked growing each passing day because of his words and actions. Still, I was willing to vote for him in the general.
I have recently been thinking more about what he has been doing and growing more and more alarmed at its effect on the right. Now this. That was the final straw. This is a well thought out decision. It does not make me feel good.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 01:43 PM (+wjl1)
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Yes exactly, it does not make us feel good to support someone we don't like.
And yes, Trump will likely change his position on this gaffe and that is a good thing. We want a politician that changes his tone when his base gets angry. Look at Trump on the abortion gaffe. You want Milton Friedman's bad politician forced to do the right thing and that will happen here.
Because every politician is going to make mistakes. A lot of them in fact. You want a politician who will recognize it and go back and fix it, when it can be fixed.
Now look at Paul Ryan or Jeb or even Rick Perry. They are inflexible on amnesty. They know the base hates it and they DO NOT CARE. Rubio had the sense to lie better, but when it was game time he did not care that the base hated it.
When Trump fixes this, as ace predicts, it will show that Trump is not a crazy unbending demagogue. Trump can self correct.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu)
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Oh you silly Cucks and GOPes, the Orange Messiah is just using his Good Brain and Best Words to play 3D chess which is beyond the comprehension of us Mere Mortals. He's "growing the party" and "expanding the map" and a bunch of other shit Trumpkins decided to parrot after hearing some wag say them on TV.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 21, 2016 02:06 PM (zEBKP)
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No. You let your Trump hate flag fly so high that you think Trump will be worse than a PROVEN train wreck.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 02:00 PM (S3Inb)
Get back to me when you have a better answer than shouting TDS!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2016 02:00 PM (S3Inb)
Get back to me when you have a better answer than shouting TDS!
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:07 PM (3JA/M)
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When Trump fixes this, as ace predicts, it will show that Trump is not a crazy unbending demagogue. Trump can self correct.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu)
What is will show is that Trump is instinctually a progressive and that is not changing. His flip-plops for political expediency mean he can not be trusted in office.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu)
What is will show is that Trump is instinctually a progressive and that is not changing. His flip-plops for political expediency mean he can not be trusted in office.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:09 PM (3JA/M)
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She doesn't need to appeal to her imagination... she just has to look at Trump's historical statements in favor of single payer healthcare and his statements in favor of the individual mandate and universal government paid for health insurance to draw the only logical conclusion of what he would do.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:03 PM (3JA/M)
She said Obamacare, not single payer healthcare.
""I would end Obamacare and replace it with something terrific, for far less money for the country and for the people," said Trump."
Translating that historical statement into " Trump would have voted for Obamacare" is not justified. Anything can happen in one's imagination.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:03 PM (3JA/M)
She said Obamacare, not single payer healthcare.
""I would end Obamacare and replace it with something terrific, for far less money for the country and for the people," said Trump."
Translating that historical statement into " Trump would have voted for Obamacare" is not justified. Anything can happen in one's imagination.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:09 PM (uURQL)
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264 The big change was the Charlotte ordinance, which said that you had to let men who look like men and obviously have male parts into ladies' rooms--- and locker rooms. Because they may feeeel they are women. So ANY man can walk in a girls' shower room, e.g.
All the NC bill did was to say, no, leave it the way it was.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 01:57 PM (T/5A0)
If that's what they wanted that's what they should have done. If Charlotte wants to do something that drastic and ridiculous, let it. The (presumably) awful consequences will get it (presumably) repealed quickly. It goes back to authoritarianism. In this case, yes, the state had the wiser perspective. But how many times does it not? What Trump supporters and true leftists want is for life to be LIVED first and then adjudicated. To adjudicate it beforehand is fascism, even in ridiculous cases like this.
If you simply let the problem reside in Charlotte, then you also have the added benefit of coming out morally superior when the liberal robots there start malfunctioning. Face it - NC legislators royally fucked this up
All the NC bill did was to say, no, leave it the way it was.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 01:57 PM (T/5A0)
If that's what they wanted that's what they should have done. If Charlotte wants to do something that drastic and ridiculous, let it. The (presumably) awful consequences will get it (presumably) repealed quickly. It goes back to authoritarianism. In this case, yes, the state had the wiser perspective. But how many times does it not? What Trump supporters and true leftists want is for life to be LIVED first and then adjudicated. To adjudicate it beforehand is fascism, even in ridiculous cases like this.
If you simply let the problem reside in Charlotte, then you also have the added benefit of coming out morally superior when the liberal robots there start malfunctioning. Face it - NC legislators royally fucked this up
Posted by: the other right at April 21, 2016 02:10 PM (MGAli)
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The issue with the all-gender bathroom idiocy is not the tiny percentage of the population that genuinely have the mental illness of transgender. It is the sexual predators who will use this as a Trojan Horse to prey on women and children. I have no idea what a Venn diagram of transgender/predator overlap would look like and I don't care. It's probably unknowable anyway and that's the damned point. And also, that the people pushing this madness won't even acknowledge this, the very real concern that attacks on women and children are going to increase as a result, absolutely predictable. All they do is scream "hater." Fuck me, my wife and child, fuck our entire country, that's whT their only answer boils down to.
And fuck Trump, I say. It would be like President Jesse Ventura. Aside from the embarrassing gaffes and destructive mistakes, which we already have right now, it will be business as usual for the ruling class uni-party. The 'anti-establishment candidate' will get rolled, played, and paid off by the establishment, and he'll love it.
And fuck Trump, I say. It would be like President Jesse Ventura. Aside from the embarrassing gaffes and destructive mistakes, which we already have right now, it will be business as usual for the ruling class uni-party. The 'anti-establishment candidate' will get rolled, played, and paid off by the establishment, and he'll love it.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 21, 2016 02:10 PM (z/7GP)
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When Trump fixes this, as ace predicts, it will show that Trump is not a crazy unbending demagogue. Trump can self correct.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu)
For now, I'm going with the guy who actually has core beliefs that I share.
At least the politicians you mentioned also share some core beliefs with me, not that I would vote for Jeb or Ryan.
I'm just not going to vote for a narcissistic egomaniacal, demagogic liberal democrat (single payer, are you kidding me? ), someone who was praising Obama not that long ago, just because last year he decided to put an R after his name.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu)
For now, I'm going with the guy who actually has core beliefs that I share.
At least the politicians you mentioned also share some core beliefs with me, not that I would vote for Jeb or Ryan.
I'm just not going to vote for a narcissistic egomaniacal, demagogic liberal democrat (single payer, are you kidding me? ), someone who was praising Obama not that long ago, just because last year he decided to put an R after his name.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:12 PM (+wjl1)
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277 ---When Trump fixes this, as ace predicts, it will show that Trump is not a crazy unbending demagogue. Trump can self correct.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu
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No, it will show that he IS a demagogue.
That is, he will say anything and take any position to further his interests.
I agree that no one need fear he will be "crazy" or "unbending" in his principles --- because he doesn't have any.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:05 PM (10hEu
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No, it will show that he IS a demagogue.
That is, he will say anything and take any position to further his interests.
I agree that no one need fear he will be "crazy" or "unbending" in his principles --- because he doesn't have any.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:15 PM (T/5A0)
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I wish I had Bill Gates money, I'd start up a community of floating platforms in deep blue Atlantic or Pacific. Set up satellite internet, algae farms, helipads, docks, and modular structures people could buy and assemble or have built. Start from scratch with a new community, blowing off the old corrupt nations. I know eventually it would get as bad, but at least it wouldn't happen in my lifetime.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:15 PM (39g3+)
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If that's what they wanted that's what they should have done. If Charlotte wants to do something that drastic and ridiculous, let it.
Where do you draw that line? Because you have one; where you say 'no, a city can't make that call.' So how do you make that call?
For me, its putting little girls in danger. Crazy, I know.
Where do you draw that line? Because you have one; where you say 'no, a city can't make that call.' So how do you make that call?
For me, its putting little girls in danger. Crazy, I know.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:17 PM (39g3+)
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>>>280
What is will show is that Trump is instinctually a progressive and that is not changing. His flip-plops for political expediency mean he can not be trusted in office.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:09 PM (3JA/M)
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No, you are wrong. An inflexible ideologue who does not care about his constituents cannot be trusted in office. We have one right now and his name is Obama.
His instincts may be less than ideal and all politicians are going to have some bad instincts because no politician is perfect.
Trump is demonstrating that he is self aware enough to correct when his instincts are wrong. He is showing that he learns. He is showing that he could avoid another Fields incident b/c he doesn't have to always stick to his initial guns.
What is will show is that Trump is instinctually a progressive and that is not changing. His flip-plops for political expediency mean he can not be trusted in office.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:09 PM (3JA/M)
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No, you are wrong. An inflexible ideologue who does not care about his constituents cannot be trusted in office. We have one right now and his name is Obama.
His instincts may be less than ideal and all politicians are going to have some bad instincts because no politician is perfect.
Trump is demonstrating that he is self aware enough to correct when his instincts are wrong. He is showing that he learns. He is showing that he could avoid another Fields incident b/c he doesn't have to always stick to his initial guns.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:17 PM (10hEu)
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He is showing that he could avoid another Fields incident b/c he doesn't have to always stick to his initial guns.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:17 PM (10hEu)
Wut. Fields was a provcateur. You don't negotiate with terrorists, or reporters who want to be the story.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:17 PM (10hEu)
Wut. Fields was a provcateur. You don't negotiate with terrorists, or reporters who want to be the story.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:19 PM (uURQL)
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I wish I had Bill Gates money, I'd start up a
community of floating platforms in deep blue Atlantic or Pacific. Set
up satellite internet, algae farms, helipads, docks, and modular
structures people could buy and assemble or have built. Start from
scratch with a new community, blowing off the old corrupt nations. I
know eventually it would get as bad, but at least it wouldn't happen in
my lifetime.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:15 PM (39g3+)
Milton Friedman's grandson, Patri Friedman is part of just such a venture. http://tinyurl.com/3jbo99z
Also see here: http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/
community of floating platforms in deep blue Atlantic or Pacific. Set
up satellite internet, algae farms, helipads, docks, and modular
structures people could buy and assemble or have built. Start from
scratch with a new community, blowing off the old corrupt nations. I
know eventually it would get as bad, but at least it wouldn't happen in
my lifetime.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:15 PM (39g3+)
Milton Friedman's grandson, Patri Friedman is part of just such a venture. http://tinyurl.com/3jbo99z
Also see here: http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:20 PM (3JA/M)
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In the early 90s, Trump also blasted Reagan's tax cuts, comparing the situation to the Soviet Union.
Just recently, he bashed Scott Walker for cutting taxes.
No thanks.
Just recently, he bashed Scott Walker for cutting taxes.
No thanks.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:21 PM (+wjl1)
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All I need to do is see who the RNC vomits out at the convention. If Hilary isn't indicted and she's the D nom, it's easy peasy.
[ ]. Hilary
[X]. Not Hilary
[ ]. Hilary
[X]. Not Hilary
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 21, 2016 02:21 PM (kTF2Z)
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Milton Friedman's grandson, Patri Friedman is part of just such a venture.
I think right now its technologically and economically viable. It would need significant defenses, because otherwise it would be an easy target for pirates, of course. And it would take some effort to be autonomous and treated with respect by the world.
Nothing I could afford to be a part of, but a worthy cause, I think.
I think right now its technologically and economically viable. It would need significant defenses, because otherwise it would be an easy target for pirates, of course. And it would take some effort to be autonomous and treated with respect by the world.
Nothing I could afford to be a part of, but a worthy cause, I think.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:25 PM (39g3+)
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""I would end Obamacare and replace it with something terrific, for far less money for the country and for the people," said Trump."
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:09 PM (uURQL)
...that includes mandated coverage and government paying for said coverage. The difference between Obamacare and Trump's terrific replacement (lets call it Trumpcare because we know he would) doesn't exist anywhere but in the minds of people who refuse to look at all of his statements together with a critical eye.
You are choosing to be blind. We will not.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:09 PM (uURQL)
...that includes mandated coverage and government paying for said coverage. The difference between Obamacare and Trump's terrific replacement (lets call it Trumpcare because we know he would) doesn't exist anywhere but in the minds of people who refuse to look at all of his statements together with a critical eye.
You are choosing to be blind. We will not.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:27 PM (3JA/M)
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that includes mandated coverage and government paying for said coverage.
Well I doubt even Trump knows what it means, it just sounds good and impressive. He seems like the kind of leader who says "I want this, this and this, now you go do it or you're fired."
Well I doubt even Trump knows what it means, it just sounds good and impressive. He seems like the kind of leader who says "I want this, this and this, now you go do it or you're fired."
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:28 PM (39g3+)
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I think right now its technologically and
economically viable. It would need significant defenses, because
otherwise it would be an easy target for pirates, of course. And it
would take some effort to be autonomous and treated with respect by the
world.
Nothing I could afford to be a part of, but a worthy cause, I think.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:25 PM (39g3+)
Like Bill Barr said about the zombie apocalypse, if you aren't well armed, your just collecting supplies for the biggest guy on your block.
economically viable. It would need significant defenses, because
otherwise it would be an easy target for pirates, of course. And it
would take some effort to be autonomous and treated with respect by the
world.
Nothing I could afford to be a part of, but a worthy cause, I think.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:25 PM (39g3+)
Like Bill Barr said about the zombie apocalypse, if you aren't well armed, your just collecting supplies for the biggest guy on your block.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:29 PM (3JA/M)
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>>>284 For now, I'm going with the guy who actually has core beliefs that I share.
At least the politicians you mentioned also share some core beliefs with me, not that I would vote for Jeb or Ryan.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:12 PM (+wjl1)
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That makes sense and core beliefs are important just like the results that the core beliefs put into practice.
For example: How has Ted Cruz demonstrated his core beliefs? Not made a speech, done an interview, or made a symbolic floor vote but actually demonstrated them.
Because I believe that when it comes to demonstrated core values - it is not as clear
Trump has a history of being loyal to his friends and making peace with former enemies like Ben Carson. While even even Jeb & Rubio haven't done a real endorsement of Cruz and he has thrown campaign advisers making gaffes under the bus
Trump has said favorable things about single payer and some lefty causes. Cruz has actually supported H1-B expansion and TPP.
Trump has worked in the private sector his whole life. Cruz has not.
Trump has raised a great family with some infidelity. Likely, Cruz too.
They both have made shady business deals.
At least the politicians you mentioned also share some core beliefs with me, not that I would vote for Jeb or Ryan.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 21, 2016 02:12 PM (+wjl1)
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That makes sense and core beliefs are important just like the results that the core beliefs put into practice.
For example: How has Ted Cruz demonstrated his core beliefs? Not made a speech, done an interview, or made a symbolic floor vote but actually demonstrated them.
Because I believe that when it comes to demonstrated core values - it is not as clear
Trump has a history of being loyal to his friends and making peace with former enemies like Ben Carson. While even even Jeb & Rubio haven't done a real endorsement of Cruz and he has thrown campaign advisers making gaffes under the bus
Trump has said favorable things about single payer and some lefty causes. Cruz has actually supported H1-B expansion and TPP.
Trump has worked in the private sector his whole life. Cruz has not.
Trump has raised a great family with some infidelity. Likely, Cruz too.
They both have made shady business deals.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:29 PM (10hEu)
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>>>289 Wut. Fields was a provcateur. You don't negotiate with terrorists, or reporters who want to be the story.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:19 PM (uURQL)
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Yes, she was. However buying her off w/ some trinket could have been preferable to the nothingburger scandal and he could have had a reporter who "owed him".
Instead it worked out for Trump, but it probably could have worked out better
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:19 PM (uURQL)
______
Yes, she was. However buying her off w/ some trinket could have been preferable to the nothingburger scandal and he could have had a reporter who "owed him".
Instead it worked out for Trump, but it probably could have worked out better
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:33 PM (10hEu)
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They both have made shady business deals.
Yeah you can't find anyone at the top of their profession that hasn't a few shades in their past. You have to make calls that ordinary people might or would not just to get there.
Yeah you can't find anyone at the top of their profession that hasn't a few shades in their past. You have to make calls that ordinary people might or would not just to get there.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:35 PM (39g3+)
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287 Yes and all the pre adolescent girls of Charlotte would surely applaud the valor and vigor off your reassurances behind those disturbing hypotheticals
Again, conceding that this was likely to have been a problem-riddled policy for Charlotte, the issue here is the state pre emptively acting in a deleterious way towards a vital municipality before anything untoward has even occurred. Had the state merely *left it alone,* we'd either get to say: "Ah ha, see progressives, your own liberal policies are the problem!" or "Dang, it sucks that Charlotte turned into San Fran East." But now, by meddling in their chosen fascistic way, the dialogue is about how destructive GOP legislatures are.
I guess to some people this is a win because of their desire to extrapolate a hypothetical out to its bitterest end, and so in that way they can be pleased that we will never learn if Charlotte would have become San Fran East. Congrats!!
Again, conceding that this was likely to have been a problem-riddled policy for Charlotte, the issue here is the state pre emptively acting in a deleterious way towards a vital municipality before anything untoward has even occurred. Had the state merely *left it alone,* we'd either get to say: "Ah ha, see progressives, your own liberal policies are the problem!" or "Dang, it sucks that Charlotte turned into San Fran East." But now, by meddling in their chosen fascistic way, the dialogue is about how destructive GOP legislatures are.
I guess to some people this is a win because of their desire to extrapolate a hypothetical out to its bitterest end, and so in that way they can be pleased that we will never learn if Charlotte would have become San Fran East. Congrats!!
Posted by: the other right at April 21, 2016 02:36 PM (MGAli)
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>>>285
No, it will show that he IS a demagogue.
That is, he will say anything and take any position to further his interests.
I agree that no one need fear he will be "crazy" or "unbending" in his principles --- because he doesn't have any.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:15 PM (T/5A0)
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Yes, and bending his interests to match the interests of his constituents is a good thing.
The GOPe never does that. They despise us when we disagree with them and instead of bending to our will they write op-eds trying to "educate" us about why we are wrong.
I want a politician who bends to my interests, don't you?
No, it will show that he IS a demagogue.
That is, he will say anything and take any position to further his interests.
I agree that no one need fear he will be "crazy" or "unbending" in his principles --- because he doesn't have any.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2016 02:15 PM (T/5A0)
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Yes, and bending his interests to match the interests of his constituents is a good thing.
The GOPe never does that. They despise us when we disagree with them and instead of bending to our will they write op-eds trying to "educate" us about why we are wrong.
I want a politician who bends to my interests, don't you?
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:38 PM (10hEu)
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Yeah you can't find anyone at the top of their
profession that hasn't a few shades in their past. You have to make
calls that ordinary people might or would not just to get there.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:35 PM (39g3+)
I don't buy that CT... you either have a moral base or you don't. Trump doesn't. I have never been a supporter of situational ethics.
profession that hasn't a few shades in their past. You have to make
calls that ordinary people might or would not just to get there.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 21, 2016 02:35 PM (39g3+)
I don't buy that CT... you either have a moral base or you don't. Trump doesn't. I have never been a supporter of situational ethics.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:39 PM (3JA/M)
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...that includes mandated coverage and government paying for said coverage. The difference between Obamacare and Trump's terrific replacement (lets call it Trumpcare because we know he would) doesn't exist anywhere but in the minds of people who refuse to look at all of his statements together with a critical eye.
You are choosing to be blind. We will not.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:27 PM (3JA/M)
If you want to interpret "I would end Obamacare" as "would vote Obamacare", you reject evidence and persuasion. Have fun with that.
I take it you have baked zero physical cookies to entice people to support Cruz? I seriously suggest you try it.
You are choosing to be blind. We will not.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:27 PM (3JA/M)
If you want to interpret "I would end Obamacare" as "would vote Obamacare", you reject evidence and persuasion. Have fun with that.
I take it you have baked zero physical cookies to entice people to support Cruz? I seriously suggest you try it.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:41 PM (uURQL)
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I take it you have baked zero physical cookies to entice people to support Cruz? I seriously suggest you try it.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:41 PM (uURQL)
Cruz doesn't need to bribe people and neither do I (as kickass as my cookies are) because Cruz has a moral and ideological base.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:41 PM (uURQL)
Cruz doesn't need to bribe people and neither do I (as kickass as my cookies are) because Cruz has a moral and ideological base.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:44 PM (3JA/M)
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Cruz doesn't need to bribe people and neither do I (as kickass as my cookies are) because Cruz has a moral and ideological base.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:44 PM (3JA/M)
Call it a reward instead of a bribe. Just go do something nice for someone.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:44 PM (3JA/M)
Call it a reward instead of a bribe. Just go do something nice for someone.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supports kittens at April 21, 2016 02:49 PM (uURQL)
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>>>304 Cruz doesn't need to bribe people and neither do I (as kickass as my cookies are) because Cruz has a moral and ideological base.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:44 PM (3JA/M)
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What do you specifically mean by a moral and ideological base?
For example, I see ones moral and ideological base not through their speaches and interviews. Those are useful, but their demonstrated actions and the results of those actions as I mentioned at #297
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 02:44 PM (3JA/M)
______
What do you specifically mean by a moral and ideological base?
For example, I see ones moral and ideological base not through their speaches and interviews. Those are useful, but their demonstrated actions and the results of those actions as I mentioned at #297
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:51 PM (10hEu)
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Sometimes I go walkabout at my Tower and just pop into the ladies rooms with no warning. So I practice what i preach, not like that Bible-waver Ted.
The women--they all love it when I do that. Believe me.
The women--they all love it when I do that. Believe me.
Posted by: Donald F. Troop, Small Businessman at April 21, 2016 02:53 PM (BSD2I)
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Trump makes more liberal noises.
His supporters shrug.
They have already had the kool aid.
They really should just admit he is a liberal, and they just don't care.
More honesty that way.
I have said before, he is running fir the Republican nomination because he cannot go further left than Bernie, and he has the wrong plumbing to compete with Hillary. There was no room for him there.
But his policies are liberal, except a wall. But he adds that he wants a pathway to citizenship. Just like Cruz. Cruz does not demand a wall, but does want to enforce border controls. Really, I see no difference on that issue.
But for everything else, Trump's a liberal. He is not even trying to hide it anymore.
His supporters shrug.
They have already had the kool aid.
They really should just admit he is a liberal, and they just don't care.
More honesty that way.
I have said before, he is running fir the Republican nomination because he cannot go further left than Bernie, and he has the wrong plumbing to compete with Hillary. There was no room for him there.
But his policies are liberal, except a wall. But he adds that he wants a pathway to citizenship. Just like Cruz. Cruz does not demand a wall, but does want to enforce border controls. Really, I see no difference on that issue.
But for everything else, Trump's a liberal. He is not even trying to hide it anymore.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 21, 2016 03:10 PM (Gl74b)
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Donny the Wonder-Tard: I MADE A POOPY
Trumpkins: He's growning the party and expanding the map. Pants-shitting will play well with Blue-collar Dems in the Rust Belt because they once shit their pants too and can identify. Maybe if Cruz shit his pants too he'd stand a chance against Hillary, but he's too much of a rigid, anti-pants-shitting fundamentalist to bend to the will of his constituents by dropping a nice hot sloppy-ploppy in his drawers.
Trumpkins: He's growning the party and expanding the map. Pants-shitting will play well with Blue-collar Dems in the Rust Belt because they once shit their pants too and can identify. Maybe if Cruz shit his pants too he'd stand a chance against Hillary, but he's too much of a rigid, anti-pants-shitting fundamentalist to bend to the will of his constituents by dropping a nice hot sloppy-ploppy in his drawers.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 21, 2016 03:13 PM (SVX7h)
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@297.
So.many half truths on one post. I would need a blog to cover them all.
And you are still hoping the planted infedelity story sticks???
Look to Cruz's activities in his Law practice. Look to how he and Mike Lee have pushed to change the direction in the Senate. Look at his overall voting record.
You won't.... Because kool-aid.
So.many half truths on one post. I would need a blog to cover them all.
And you are still hoping the planted infedelity story sticks???
Look to Cruz's activities in his Law practice. Look to how he and Mike Lee have pushed to change the direction in the Senate. Look at his overall voting record.
You won't.... Because kool-aid.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 21, 2016 03:18 PM (Gl74b)
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A pervert lover. That's Trump for you. Trump voters are garbage.
Posted by: Naes at April 21, 2016 03:34 PM (Ypc8j)
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What Trump supporters and true leftists want is for life to be LIVED first and then adjudicated. To adjudicate it beforehand is fascism, even in ridiculous cases like this.
This is why the Libertarian Party draws 1%.
This is why the Libertarian Party draws 1%.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 21, 2016 03:44 PM (evdj2)
313
This afternoon Rush was spinning the "leave it like it was" part as Trump opposing gender neutral bathrooms. It was embarrassing and pathetic.
Posted by: Saltlick at April 21, 2016 03:51 PM (mRMxB)
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But his policies are liberal, except a wall. But he
adds that he wants a pathway to citizenship. Just like Cruz. Cruz does
not demand a wall, but does want to enforce border controls. Really, I
see no difference on that issue.
But for everything else, Trump's a liberal. He is not even trying to hide it anymore.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 21, 2016 03:10 PM (Gl74b)
Sippin... at no time ever has Cruz advocated for a pathway to citizenship. That was more nonsense pushed by the Rubio campaign when Rubio was kinda, sorta trying to imply that he and Cruz held the same position.
Also on the wall... Cruz advocates for a wall along the parts of the border where it makes sense.
adds that he wants a pathway to citizenship. Just like Cruz. Cruz does
not demand a wall, but does want to enforce border controls. Really, I
see no difference on that issue.
But for everything else, Trump's a liberal. He is not even trying to hide it anymore.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 21, 2016 03:10 PM (Gl74b)
Sippin... at no time ever has Cruz advocated for a pathway to citizenship. That was more nonsense pushed by the Rubio campaign when Rubio was kinda, sorta trying to imply that he and Cruz held the same position.
Also on the wall... Cruz advocates for a wall along the parts of the border where it makes sense.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 03:51 PM (3JA/M)
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Because I believe that when it comes to demonstrated core values - it is not as clear
Trump has a history of being loyal to his friends and making peace
with former enemies like Ben Carson. While even even Jeb Rubio
haven't done a real endorsement of Cruz and he has thrown campaign
advisers making gaffes under the bus
Trump has said favorable things about single payer and some lefty causes. Cruz has actually supported H1-B expansion and TPP.
Trump has worked in the private sector his whole life. Cruz has not.
Trump has raised a great family with some infidelity. Likely, Cruz too.
They both have made shady business deals.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:29 PM (10hEu)
Thou shalt not bear false witness... even when you are just repeating Trump's lies.
Trump has a history of being loyal to his friends and making peace
with former enemies like Ben Carson. While even even Jeb Rubio
haven't done a real endorsement of Cruz and he has thrown campaign
advisers making gaffes under the bus
Trump has said favorable things about single payer and some lefty causes. Cruz has actually supported H1-B expansion and TPP.
Trump has worked in the private sector his whole life. Cruz has not.
Trump has raised a great family with some infidelity. Likely, Cruz too.
They both have made shady business deals.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 02:29 PM (10hEu)
Thou shalt not bear false witness... even when you are just repeating Trump's lies.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 03:54 PM (3JA/M)
316
Code Red Code AoSHQ running low on butt cream. Code Red Code Red! We need butt cream hear stat!
Posted by: AuH2O at April 21, 2016 04:02 PM (WBahS)
317
Ace, you've finally hit the right spot. The first article you've posted that's gotten me to feel a little hesitant in trump support. If at the very least, he isn't politically incorrect, then what the fuck use is he?
Posted by: bob at April 21, 2016 04:05 PM (8BJ4M)
318
Shouldn't Ted Cruz take his own advice and drop off since his been eliminated from the 1st ballot. I mean since we're all about pointing out candidates hypocrisy, right???
Posted by: AuH2O at April 21, 2016 04:06 PM (WBahS)
319
THIS is the issue Trump decides to "pivot to the general" on? The one that only appeals to people who will never, under any circumstance vote Trump? An issue he could have actually used to boost his numbers with Republican leading women? Seriously?
And he's almost certainly going to make it worse by immediately switching to going hard the opposite way.
And he's almost certainly going to make it worse by immediately switching to going hard the opposite way.
Posted by: JT at April 21, 2016 04:14 PM (54ccT)
320
Trump is doomed because of this.
Posted by: AuH2O at April 21, 2016 04:15 PM (WBahS)
321
My New York friends all say I'm right about this. They told me I need to "virtue-signal" whatever that is.
All I know is that i'm on the same side as the president, and that makes me Presidential! Believe me.
All I know is that i'm on the same side as the president, and that makes me Presidential! Believe me.
Posted by: Donald F. Troop, Small Businessman at April 21, 2016 04:47 PM (BSD2I)
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ZZZ-Zzzz-ZZzzz-hngGGggh-Ppbhww- zZZzzzZZ . . .
Posted by: jacke at April 21, 2016 05:30 PM (i8Shl)
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>>>315
Thou shalt not bear false witness... even when you're Lyin Ted
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 03:54 PM (3JA/M)
FIFY
Thou shalt not bear false witness... even when you're Lyin Ted
Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2016 03:54 PM (3JA/M)
FIFY
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 05:44 PM (ab2et)
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>>>310
So.many half truths on one post. I would need a blog to cover them all.
....
You won't.... Because kool-aid.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 21, 2016 03:18 PM (Gl74b)
______
There is no kool-aid. I agree 100% that Cruz has far more stated conservative positions. In fact on the positions alone I would prefer him to Trump. But positions are abstract words. I can about what someone will actually accomplish with power in their hands
I don't think Cruz will get any of his stated positions accomplished, whether he believes them or not (I don't think Cruz believes his stated positions, but I don't think Trump does either. Politicians are power hungry and dishonest as a gorup)
Why won't Cruz get them accomplished? B/c I don't believe Cruz can bully a hostile congress into anything. I don't believe he has the charisma or the aggression in him. Trump has that. He got Carson on board. He stood up to the Fields charges, even if you think he was wrong, he demonstrated that he will fight and fight dirty. Whine Trump does, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
And with as corrupt as DC is, you have to fight hard and dirty and everyone will be partially or completely wrong a lot of the time and they will still have to fight anyway.
Maybe Trump uses that fight against us for stuff we don't like, but no one doubts Trump has the balls to get things done.
Also, like I've said in other threads - I can't personally stand Cruz b/c of his voice, look, and general creepiness. I wouldn't let him near my kids - its visceral. Sometimes a person just rubs you the wrong way through no intentional fault of their own.
I will still vote for either Trump or Cruz against the Dems in the general.
So.many half truths on one post. I would need a blog to cover them all.
....
You won't.... Because kool-aid.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 21, 2016 03:18 PM (Gl74b)
______
There is no kool-aid. I agree 100% that Cruz has far more stated conservative positions. In fact on the positions alone I would prefer him to Trump. But positions are abstract words. I can about what someone will actually accomplish with power in their hands
I don't think Cruz will get any of his stated positions accomplished, whether he believes them or not (I don't think Cruz believes his stated positions, but I don't think Trump does either. Politicians are power hungry and dishonest as a gorup)
Why won't Cruz get them accomplished? B/c I don't believe Cruz can bully a hostile congress into anything. I don't believe he has the charisma or the aggression in him. Trump has that. He got Carson on board. He stood up to the Fields charges, even if you think he was wrong, he demonstrated that he will fight and fight dirty. Whine Trump does, and the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
And with as corrupt as DC is, you have to fight hard and dirty and everyone will be partially or completely wrong a lot of the time and they will still have to fight anyway.
Maybe Trump uses that fight against us for stuff we don't like, but no one doubts Trump has the balls to get things done.
Also, like I've said in other threads - I can't personally stand Cruz b/c of his voice, look, and general creepiness. I wouldn't let him near my kids - its visceral. Sometimes a person just rubs you the wrong way through no intentional fault of their own.
I will still vote for either Trump or Cruz against the Dems in the general.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 21, 2016 05:59 PM (ab2et)
325
Trump is doomed. What kind of tru conservative is against the religious right pushing the court to take action for a problem that doesn't exist?
Posted by: gfy at April 21, 2016 06:08 PM (jOxVV)
326
Trump is an idiot.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 21, 2016 06:35 PM (eHpnh)
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You can take the boy out of Manhattan but you can't take Manhattan out of the boy.
I'm sure ol' Rush will explain the brilliance of Trump's comments.
In the meantime Hillary's deciding what to replace that crappy yellow in the Oval Office with.
I'm sure ol' Rush will explain the brilliance of Trump's comments.
In the meantime Hillary's deciding what to replace that crappy yellow in the Oval Office with.
Posted by: Billy Blythe at April 21, 2016 11:45 PM (ChAaq)
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Hillary is counting on you dipshits that are trying to destroy Trump. Your suddenly virgin viewpoints are pathetically hypocritical. In case you beltway internet pundit prostitute complex bloggers haven't noticed, we need to win, and we need to defeat the Democrat party. You are supporting Hillary, and you can go to hell.
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My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat