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Trump: My Favorite Bible Teaching Is "An Eye For An Eye"
When I saw this headline earlier, I assumed it was some negative opinion piece analyzing Trump's behavior and deciding that this must be his favorite Bible passage (as well as one of the four or five he knows).
Nope. Trump actually said it. Via Buzzfeed:I think a quiz about obvious Bible knowledge -- who denied Jesus?, name three disciples, etc. -- would prove hilarious.
"Is there a favorite Bible verse or Bible story that has informed your thinking or your character through life, sir?" asked host Bob Lonsberry on WHAM 1180 AM.
Trump responded, "Well, I think many. I mean, when we get into the Bible, I think many, so many. And some people, look, an eye for an eye, you can almost say that. That's not a particularly nice thing. But you know, if you look at what's happening to our country, I mean, when you see what’s going on with our country, how people are taking advantage of us, and how they scoff at us and laugh at us. And they laugh at our face, and they’re taking our jobs, they’re taking our money, they’re taking the health of our country. And we have to be firm and have to be very strong. And we can learn a lot from the Bible, that I can tell you.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 03:59 PM (miXPX)
Posted by: Gushka can has kitties what plays fetch at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (cfswg)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (jsWA8)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (eXTZt)
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (K27gs)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (jsWA8)
Posted by: Gaff at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (jPS2y)
I'll go get the others
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (miXPX)
Posted by: pookysgirl at April 14, 2016 04:01 PM (K27gs)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 14, 2016 04:02 PM (eXTZt)
--
*looks around*
*stares at witless GOPe*
Sign me up!
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:02 PM (nbrY/)
At least he knows "Two" Corinthians.
Posted by: Barack O. at April 14, 2016 04:02 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Flyguy at April 14, 2016 04:02 PM (/VRBf)
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 04:02 PM (miXPX)
Turns out, that appears to have been mere pretext.
Posted by: Revenant at April 14, 2016 04:02 PM (y64uP)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:03 PM (FsuaD)
Would be funny but I think it would be more instructive to quiz him on the basics of the Constitution.
Posted by: Kevin DuBrow at April 14, 2016 04:03 PM (bMcUX)
Posted by: Gaff at April 14, 2016 04:00 PM (jPS2y)
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No, we get even. And why would you quote that old perv, joo hating Gandhi?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 04:03 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bigbys Cellphone at April 14, 2016 04:03 PM (kFC4+)
Posted by: Jules Winnfield at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (v6+HN)
Posted by: rd at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (1xUj/)
The New Testament is a spiritual kingdom. Trying to apply its constitution -- as outlined in the Sermon on the Mount -- Ito the secular sphere is a grave mistake.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (eXTZt)
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 14, 2016 04:05 PM (fVOPU)
Posted by: brak at April 14, 2016 04:05 PM (MJuTN)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:05 PM (4dbPD)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 04:05 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:05 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Trump Institute of Theology at April 14, 2016 04:05 PM (g7Ku7)
Posted by: Ned Flanders at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (HgMAr)
I don't care whether or not a prospective President is a good and observant Christian, but what's pretty lame is a guy who visibly is not one of those engaging in a desperate and clumsy pretense to being such.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (noWW6)
And, oh yeah, world peace.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (/m8T6)
That one really resonated with me - about how God insists that we implement socialism to that no brother is left behind!!
Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (NOIQH)
Basically it said it looked liked the Evangelicals were tired of pious candidates who either couldn't get elected or did not deliver. Right now they want to hire a bodyguard to protect them so they could practice their faith in peace. Ergo Trump.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (zOTsN)
*******
I'm not seeing how this hurts him, though.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Get Cheesed Off in Our Dairy Section! at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (miXPX)
Posted by: fb at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (JVEmw)
If you cast the first stone, you're a winner, and you have nothing to ask forgiveness for.
If you're getting stoned, it's undemocratic, the process was rigged, and I'm not saying there's gonna be riots, but you know, there's probably going to be riots.
Posted by: Kevin DuBrow at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (bMcUX)
Posted by: Teh Donald, In a Pensive Mood at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (eHpnh)
Posted by: Donald T. at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (1xUj/)
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...pound it into plowshares???
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (iQIUe)
WWJC - What Would Jesus Carry?
A pair of 1873 Colt Peacemakers
"Blessed are the Peacemakers"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (4dbPD)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (eXTZt)
For the record, I am Evangelical and am all-in for Trump.
So we do exist.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Gov98 at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (Haj96)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Fat Bastard at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (HgMAr)
He means trade. When you pay someone money for something you want. That's trade. Voluntary exchange.
He's saying the government has to stop that. You can't buy from whoever you want. You have to buy from the guy Trump likes.
Its gonna be great!
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: brak at April 14, 2016 04:05 PM (MJuTN)
You were saying...
https://youtu.be/UTtfVOyVsf0v
Posted by: Stone Cold Steve Austin at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (v6+HN)
Well, at least the ghey ones.
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (jJRIy)
Demagogues have always existed.
Posted by: bestie21 at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (HUeC4)
Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 04:07 PM (HgMAr)
Let me deal with the adulterers.
Posted by: Lorena Bobbit, now single and available at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Trump Institute of Theology at April 14, 2016 04:09 PM (g7Ku7)
Posted by: donna at April 14, 2016 04:09 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Donald Trump! at April 14, 2016 04:09 PM (+B4Qh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:09 PM (w4NZ8)
No, no, no. It's equal for equal. The correct answer would be rosters from them.
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 14, 2016 04:09 PM (eXTZt)
OK, at least it isn't that they actually believe Trump is a religious person.
Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at April 14, 2016 04:09 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Trump Institute of Theology at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (g7Ku7)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (eXTZt)
If you want to defeat Islam, you're gonna need more OT than NT.
Love thy neighbor is akin to sending comics.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (4dbPD)
https://youtu.be/UTtfVOyVsf0v
Posted by: Stone Cold Steve Austin at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (v6+HN)
Wow, so Trump's already gotten a preview of the convention?
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (jJRIy)
Trump will be happy to sell you swords and export cloaks to China.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (nbrY/)
It's expensive. believe me, I know.
Talk about a Golden Fleecing.
But here's the thing...Salt was a big commodity back then. I mean, big. big... really, really a big commodity.
And with a Pillar of Salt...
And no Pre-Nup?
That's what we call a Win - Win. And believe me, I know all about winning at Winning.
I'd say Lot was pretty lucky at winning.
... probably where we get the word 'Lottery' from, huh?
Posted by: Donald Trump's Forehead Merkin at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (xUVR8)
Posted by: jason watson at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (SjXK8)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (k4M/B)
What is, "Things Trump missed in Sunday School"?
Posted by: steveegg at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (v6+HN)
Posted by: jb at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (YlbG7)
Posted by: Donaldo Trumptastic at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (HgMAr)
But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."
The justice proscribed for an unborn child getting injured ... the principle is Eye For Eye. Does that sound relevant to our day and age?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Average citizen at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (6UvYI)
A flaming clown boner for enabling flaming clown boners. ie. Trump for GOPe failure theater.
We're not in nice places.
Posted by: DaveA at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (DL2i+)
I still laugh at Zuckerberg having 18 personal body guards at just his home to protect him from the jihadis. LOL
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (iQIUe)
I guess he's down with "go and sin no more."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (Nwg0u)
Funny, I seem to recall being told that America wasn't a theocracy and I shouldn't use my beliefs as the first and only basis of support when guys like Santorum made the GOP look bad. So I listen and now I'm a dummy?
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (Nj2wY)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (zOTsN)
My guess is-yes-that Trump wanted to prove he knew something about the
Bible. People can choose all kinds of reasons to vote for Trump; His
deep faith shouldn't be one of them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:08 PM (w4NZ
Trump will change the "In God we Trust" to "Trust in Trump"
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Oppressed Eyetalian Guy at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (nEJQ1)
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (noWW6)
My favorite verse is "Go ahead, make my day."
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (zOTsN)
Wrong.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Going beyond what the Law allows is a different thing than rejecting the Law.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (Qvgg/)
To prove they are icky Christians to be scoffed at and ridiculed.....
Posted by: donna at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (O2RFr)
I suspect something similar is going on with Cruz and evangelicals.
When Trump starts getting sidelined they will embrace Cruz.
Posted by: jmt at April 14, 2016 04:13 PM (I8vjj)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6vqnd3x
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:13 PM (w4NZ8)
Just my opinion.
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 04:13 PM (miXPX)
Trump is paying lip service to the evangelicals. Most of them know it. They also know that they are not electing the Pastor in Chief, they are electing a Commander in Chief.
Most Evangelicals care more about what he will do for their economy and jobs, their kids, their safety, their culture. Being pious is not that important to many.
They also look at his kids, and see he and his WIVES did a damned good job. Results do matter.
Posted by: rd at April 14, 2016 04:13 PM (v0YLX)
Where were you eight years ago?
Posted by: Kevin DuBrow at April 14, 2016 04:13 PM (bMcUX)
Eye for an eye is Old Testament. I know Jesus repudiated it. I don't think this will matter. To anyone
If you want to defeat Islam, you're gonna need more OT than NT.
Love thy neighbor is akin to sending comics.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:10 PM (4dbPD)
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I came here to say just that, but I figured it had already been said. I only had to scroll up about 5 comments to find it.
Here's my favorite post-Bible teaching: "People will follow the strong horse."
This notion that we should imitate Christ in international relations is the staple of faux-Christian America-haters and socialists.
Posted by: iforgot at April 14, 2016 04:14 PM (pC96u)
Say what you want, guy would have made an excellent Blogger.
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:14 PM (xUVR8)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:14 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at April 14, 2016 04:14 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 04:14 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: brak at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (MJuTN)
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (q177U)
Trump got in trouble for taking pro-life to its logical place - that baby-murdering women are held accountable for their choice.
That's not lip-service.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (uURQL)
Jesus would build a wall because he was like a huge carpenter.
Posted by: Donaldo Trumptastic at April 14, 2016 04:11 PM (HgMAr)
LOL. but a wall is so yesterday. Razor wire and mines. just sayin'
Posted by: Oppressed Eyetalian Guy at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (nEJQ1)
Posted by: Stone Cold Steve Austin
Maybe the party should've tried that last year.
Posted by: DaveA at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (DL2i+)
"And verily shalt thou win, and thou shalt win huge. It shalt be amazing, all the winning thou shalt do. And the the people shalt cry out in awesomeness and gratitude at all the winning."
Posted by: Evil Otto at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (6eVVe)
22 If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows.
23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Which would seem to have applications to abortion as well. I'm not sure how burns factor in, but that would suggest this is a broader principle than verse 22 suggests.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (Qvgg/)
It's a real miracle!
*light shines down*
*choirs of angels sing: Trumpeluia!*
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (nbrY/)
Was this for for a loan? Because let me tell you, I have a AAA solid gold classyestest+ credit rating.
Posted by: WWDJTD at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (Ag8Mw)
Posted by: Joe Biden at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: hogmartin at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (BVSyW)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (4dbPD)
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (h/uSM)
Trump's entire campaign has been a "hold my beer" winging it moment.
Hopefully to be followed by a political Darwin Award before it's too late.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (zOTsN)
Don't forget the chapter and verse #.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (1rAS0)
_______________________________
90
Why is any candidate even being asked this?
To prove they are icky Christians to be scoffed at and ridiculed.....
Posted by: donna at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Pyrocles at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (fVOPU)
Posted by: Digitis Minimus Vulgaris at April 14, 2016 04:16 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: iforgot at April 14, 2016 04:14 PM (pC96u)
Christ knocked over tables and whipped money-lenders because they profaned the sacred.
Christ is King of Kings and the final Judge. We should be imitating him ... the injustice we see nationally and globally is because we do NOT.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:17 PM (uURQL)
And immediately walked it back when he realized it wasn't PC. That's lip service.
Posted by: Kevin DuBrow at April 14, 2016 04:17 PM (bMcUX)
Posted by: DONALD at April 14, 2016 04:17 PM (h/uSM)
The hysteria that has formed around Trump, though, is fascinating. The amount of emotional energy, the amount of personal validation his supporters and detractors alike are putting into this is astounding. I wonder what is driving all of that?
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Get Cheesed Off in Our Dairy Section! at April 14, 2016 04:17 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Samuel Colt at April 14, 2016 04:17 PM (8ZskC)
amazing, all the winning thou shalt do. And the the people shalt cry out
in awesomeness and gratitude at all the winning."
This is great.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:17 PM (LAe3v)
So you choose Donald to be the guy where you change your mind. Awesome.
I'm non-religious. I understand GOP is a big tent, so I have been willing to support some so-con stuff. This is not fun for me.
So, if you could have notified me earlier that you'd be fine with gay marriage, abortion, etc., it would have been nice.
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: DaveA at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (DL2i+)
"Teach a man to fish, and he sits in a boat and drinks beer all day"
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (4dbPD)
The Red Ryder company?
Posted by: Tilikum SBD KAW at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: John Kerry at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (UBBWX)
We are not. GOPe betrayals there are why they are fired and the party must die.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (zOTsN)
This screed by Ace penetrates me like a Trump finger.......IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Shrillary's Vagina at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (qcIWB)
Posted by: ThunderB
I'd be happy if someone asked him his GPA.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:19 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Pope Social Justice at April 14, 2016 04:19 PM (MJuTN)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 14, 2016 04:19 PM (BK3ZS)
"Look, right here, it has my name and address!"
LOL. Now why would his mother write his name and address in it? Because that was probably the Bible given to him in Sunday school. Sure as hell wasn't a family heirloom. And I doubt he has opened it in 60 years, if he ever did.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 14, 2016 04:19 PM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:20 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 04:20 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 04:20 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:20 PM (uURQL)
It's been noted here before that Obama was once asked, in the context of his ostensible conversion to Christianity, what he defined as sin.
Obama said it was "being out of alignment with my values".
This is of course about the least Christian thing anyone can imagine. A diligently observant Christian is intent on staying in alignment with God's values.
But Obama, the clinical narcissist, the arch-solipsist, naturally defines *everything* in a reference frame centered on his own person.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (q177U)
Uhhhhh......wut?
Posted by: Blind guy holding the Elephant's "trunk" at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (qcIWB)
Amazing # of people attending.
Also, watched part of CNN's town halls with the Trump family and the Cruz family. I'll take those kind of events in which you actually get to hear a detailed response from the candidate instead of snarky one upmanships in debates.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (1rAS0)
I shouldn't assume "all evangelicals behave in x fashion" the same as I shouldn't say it about any other group.
I'm just still surprised that a guy who's obviously an atheist has such a huge evangelical following.
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (dciA+)
Got an answer, got a column, heck even got blog posts.
Posted by: DaveA at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 04:13 PM (miXPX)
I agree with you. Their moral character is important. What I was trying to say very clumsily was, "If you're voting for Trump because you think he's a person of deep religious Christian faith you are probably off the track.
ButI think people who are religious who are voting for him don't care about his faith or lack thereof. They are concerned about the things Votermom mentioned and they feel Trump-as opposed to the Democratic candidates- wouldn't be hostile to Christianity.
I will vote for him if he becomes the nominee. As I've said numerous times, "I would vote for dead possum over Hillary" which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of Trump. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Gov. John Katshitt at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (326rv)
It's such an anti-pander.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens a
...
yeah i'm sure Trump will get right on that
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Harry Reid's exercise band at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (LAe3v)
I can't even laugh at this as I know how easy such a mistake can be make in scripting.
Okay, I smiled, but it was the bitter smile of experience.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (q177U)
Uhhhhh......wut?
Posted by: Blind guy holding the Elephant's "trunk"
Pssst. Trunks aren't usually wet and warm.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (4dbPD)
He's running a Republican. Gotta trot out one old standby. :^(
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (w4NZ8)
yeah it was silly, hostile thing for me to say.
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Donald Trump at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (8ZskC)
Growing up in the Bronx of the '50s and '60s and in spite of an all-Catholic education, I was well into my teens before I realized that it was "Turn the other cheek." and not "Turn the other's cheek."
Posted by: 11B40 at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (evgyj)
As a catholic i've got a handful for refuting all those heretics out there. But they're more useful than favorites.
maybe a story or a parable.
Posted by: John Kerry at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Duncan MacLeod, The Highlander at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (NAv1Q)
*blinks*
Ah, who cares. As I said earlier today, I can't stand anyone who's running. But I'll crawl over flaming coals to cast a vote against the Hildebeast or Comrade Bernie, no matter who our candidate is (but I'll be HIGHLY PISSED if it's the mailman's son).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (FsuaD)
OK, this makes more sense. Because GOPe didn't deliver on anything, then why focus on purity - it won't happen anyways.
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:23 PM (w4NZ8)
Jesus rocks.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:23 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (dciA+)
The man has too much integrity and backbone to be an atheist.
Eat, drink, and be merry ... for tomorrow we die.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:23 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 04:23 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: DaveA at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (DL2i+)
Was this for for a loan? Because let me tell you, I have a AAA solid gold classyestest+ credit rating.
Posted by: WWDJTD at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (Ag8Mw)
I'm going to die laughing. And go to hell for laughing.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: ace
Like anyone has a choice???
Where do the vaunted fiscal cons go? The icky so-cons were told to go to Hell years ago.
In an 'outsider year' the guy so far out were unsure of the planet of origin is gaining a following.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Milo's Daddy at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (52mi6)
>>>130 In the Kingdom of the Blind the elephant can be many things.
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:18 PM (q177U)
Uhhhhh......wut?
Posted by: Blind guy holding the Elephant's "trunk"
Clearly this particular elephant has short fingers.
Posted by: Blind guy holding the Elephant's "trunk draws the inevitable conclusion at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (LAe3v)
he is an atheist.
and it's not bs. This kind of question is asked routinely of conservative candidates -- you know, because they're generally religious. And because Trump himself declares the Bible to be his favorite book.
Your notions of what is unfair or a "gotcha" question seem to turn entirely on whether Trump botches the question or not (as he usually does).
there's nothing unfair about exposing an obvious lie.
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: auscolpyr at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (Ht/4p)
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM
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You could probably say the same thing about his varying positions on illegal aliens, abortion, taxes, etc.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (Qvgg/)
Posted by: Commissar M at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (vcIHi)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: nckate at April 14, 2016 04:24 PM (UWHSi)
'Vote Was About Denying Israel's Right to Exist,' Opponents Say After BDS Passes at U of Chicago
http://goo.gl/PUkZtH
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens a
...
yeah i'm sure Trump will get right on that
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (dciA+)
Wasn't talking about Trump.
As far as we are complicit ... we should fear the one who will judge us all.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (uURQL)
Not the messages of hope or salvation.
Not the messages of enduring love and grace
Not the messages of selflessness and charity.
No. He picks the "revenge" passage. Of course, I doubt he knows that it's about restraint and not revenge.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (SEXy3)
Because blind support for the GOPe has gotten us nothing?
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (Nj2wY)
Posted by: ryukyu at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (FuBZa)
Um, Paul, John, and who was that broad who was a hooker? You know, um, Mary something.
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (1xUj/)
If your arm offend you have a campaign manager remove it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Donald Trump at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ace
if he were atheist or vegan, you'd fucking know it.
Posted by: x at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (xUVR8)
if he's lying about one thing the odds that he is lying about other things rises.
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (dciA+)
Btw Jesus did not end the "eye for an eye" for all things, he just ended in the personal level, not at the civil level. Now of course Trump does not follow Jesus's teachings on personal level, BUT in this case Trump is talking about the civil level (aka government) and in that case it is acceptable for Christians to accept the eye for an eye punishment argument. If we did not, we would have been conquered on the battlefield by another country a long time ago. If I am wrong - What heck was the Atom bombing of Japan about?
SO come Anti-Trump folks, this is getting stupid. You hate Trump, but to bash him over stuff like this shows you how hatred can give serious tunnel vision sometimes. This is one of them...it is so stupid and snarky it makes Trump look good.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (KhJh8)
Not the messages of hope or salvation.
Not the messages of enduring love and grace
Not the messages of selflessness and charity.
No. He picks the "revenge" passage. Of course, I doubt he knows that it's about restraint and not revenge.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (SEXy3
Smart and SEXy too
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Ace at 03:59 PM
Oh that's easy. Huey, Dewey, and Louie.
Posted by: Iblis at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (9221z)
Now have a sip of water, take a deep breath and get back in there and give 'em hell!
Posted by: DM at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (j/tOh)
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (xUVR8)
Duh. It's not about the substance, it's the hypocrisy.
"I'm a great Christian, really, the best". The DJT actually said something to that effect.
I'm not even a believer, just sort of culturally Christian, and that offended me as being against the spirit of the Jesus message.
So the big Christian's favorite verse is the one specifically repudiated by Jesus?
It's to Ace's point on how he would do on a quiz of general Christian knowledge. He would not do well. He does not know things because he does not have a curious mind.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (4dbPD)
Oh.
BRB
Posted by: Blind guy holding the Elephant's at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (qcIWB)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (evdj2)
Um, Paul, John, and who was that broad who was a hooker? You know, um, Mary something.
***
John, Paul, and George.
Sometimes Ringo.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (SEXy3)
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I know that was directed at someone else, but in my case it's every sunday plus choir rehersal wednesday night plus Bible study Thursday morning and evening.
And I volunteer on occasion.
I'm probably more evangelical by belief, but I like my Lutheran Church Missouri Synod congregation.
I voted for Trump.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (dciA+)
Who denied Jesus? AMEX wouldn't give him a card, that's who!
Three disciples? Easy! Manny, Moe, and Jack.
Posted by: D Trump at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (k4M/B)
If politics makes for strange bedfellows, imagine what war does...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (9krrF)
He just keeps plowing forward with retard strength. It's strangely admirable.
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2016 04:25 PM (SEXy3)
Not revenge. Justice.
Which is highly applicable to our socially just times.
You know, like Listening and Believing a fake rape accusation.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (uURQL)
I don't know if he's an Atheist. He may be a Agnostic or believes in a God who does something-only he's not sure what. Trump as with many, many very wealthy people doesn't seem to have a need for God (God had nothing to do with his success may be his view) and i don't think Trump would have any concept of the religious concept of submission to God, I think he likes the idea of Jesus or did think Jesus existed, but probably wouldn't support militant Atheists trying to take down religious displays.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (w4NZ8)
OK, this makes more sense. Because GOPe didn't deliver on anything, then why focus on purity - it won't happen anyways.
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:22 PM (UBBWX)
I'm thinking more of Jericho here, or perhaps the Cities of the Plain.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Get Cheesed Off in Our Dairy Section! at April 14, 2016 04:27 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2016 04:28 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: TRUMP at April 14, 2016 04:28 PM (h/uSM)
Um, Paul, John, and who was that broad who was a hooker? You know, um, Mary something.
***
John, Paul, and George.
Sometimes Ringo.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2016 04:26 PM (SEXy3
Dick, The Disciple. It does have a nice ringo to it.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 04:28 PM (voOPb)
bash him over stuff like this shows you how hatred can give serious
tunnel vision sometimes. This is one of them...it is so stupid and
snarky it makes Trump look good.
I think you're missing the point. It isn't the truth of the particular statement, it's just the utter fatuity of his pretense that he's any kind of a religious person. What you think of such people is up to you, but Presidential candidates shouldn't engage in such a risible charade.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:29 PM (LAe3v)
Obama said it was "being out of alignment with my values".
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That and not issuing enough commandments.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 04:29 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (dciA+)
Perhaps some evangelicals are not cardboard cut-outs but instead have other competing interests they balance when voting for a candidate?
Not everyone is a caricature.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Get Cheesed Off in Our Dairy Section! at April 14, 2016 04:29 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 14, 2016 04:29 PM (DKJhg)
I know Bernie's...
Marx 1:1 From each according to his ability...
Posted by: Golfman at April 14, 2016 04:29 PM (48QDY)
After a couple of decades of the Party of Compulsive Caving, it has its charms.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 14, 2016 04:29 PM (9krrF)
23 And I say to you, if a man rip your arm asunder...
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 14, 2016 04:04 PM (1xUj/)
.........................
turn the other cheek and go buy a new one of high quality wood
Posted by: Inspector Krough at April 14, 2016 04:29 PM (HgMAr)
Desperate move to make a big splash in a new market. Gave up too many picks.
Posted by: brak at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (MJuTN)
How on Earth is the Republican Party ever going to credibly court the Family Values crowd after they nominate Trump?
Might be a good thing long term.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (A2FEp)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (kTF2Z)
Biden: Jobs 7:11
Rick Perry: Proverbs, Matthew and uh, uh, uh...
Jeb Bush: Acts (of love)
Mario Rubio: Joséa
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (NeFrd)
I could vote for someone who was an atheist, agnostic, or even nominal/cultural Christian so long as (a) they're honest about it and, (b) they're going to protect my religious liberties. The pretending is insulting.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (KkVB6)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (+gVQC)
Someone should ask her how her beliefs square with being okay with partial birth abortion, or abortion. Period.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Diners Club at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (326rv)
Risible? Hillary says that she's "fighting for us."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (8ZskC)
So the big Christian's favorite verse is the one specifically repudiated by Jesus?
Jesus didn't repudiate that verse.
You may want to engage in some basic Bible study before you go judging someone else's Christian faith ...
Because I'm sure you know there's a verse where Jesus tells his followers to not judge ... Go find that and read the full context.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:21 PM (dciA+)
Ace, because people commit sins and fail to live up to their religious beliefs doesn't make them an atheist. Trump certainly has committed some well defined sins, but none of us are perfect in our faith.
Trump has said in interviews that he attends Sunday church when he can. He is a Presbyterian, like the Bush's. Quite the liberal denomination these days, but regardless. He said he always attends church on major holidays, and considering Melania has posted photos to her facebook page of the interiors of churches on holidays, such as Easter, what he's saying is not a stretch.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (1rAS0)
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:31 PM (q177U)
Posted by: TRUMP at April 14, 2016 04:31 PM (h/uSM)
Posted by: ace
I don't think he's an atheist. He's like a lot of Americans , not religious, but still Christian.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:31 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 14, 2016 04:31 PM (5IbVn)
Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 04:31 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at April 14, 2016 04:31 PM (OxjQ5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:31 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (NeFrd)
Well you'd barely know it was a plank other than lip service during elections, so it would pretty much just be making it official.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: TRUMP at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (h/uSM)
...
Btw Jesus did not end the "eye for an eye" for all things, he just ended in the personal level, not at the civil level. Now of course Trump does not follow Jesus's teachings on personal level, BUT in this case Trump is talking about the civil level (aka government) and in that case it is acceptable for Christians to accept the eye for an eye punishment argument.
...
I'm down with it too. It just seems strange to me that the guy who says "we can learn a lot from the Bible, that I can tell you" and "I'm a great christian, the best" doesn't seem to know that Jesus came with a message of forgiveness and turning of the other cheek, and that Jesus' words displaced the eye-for-an-eye laws contained in the Old Testament.
But whatever, he's a great Christian. He loves Jesus so much, so much.
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (dciA+)
In fairness, he applied with a stolen SSN.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (evdj2)
That's a good verse.
The Bible is full of good stuff: Render me money. . .no investigations. . . let's see, I think there was one other. . .
Oh yeah! "Love thy Huma". That's a really good one.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (/m8T6)
Not the ones we have now.
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Now they're more into Pottery Barn catalogues.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Donald Trump at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (8ZskC)
If a candidate said, "Well, I'm not much of a practicing Christian really. But I respect and embrace America's Judeo-Christian values and heritage. I believe in the free exercise of religion, as our Founders did. I believe in tolerance for the traditionally religious and the unreligious alike."
If he were to add that secular leftism is the greatest threat to religious freedom today, that it has become a crusading, theocratic, bullying movement that demands total obedience and thought control, I'd be sold.
I wouldn't care if he were an atheist.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 04:32 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (5IbVn)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (DKJhg)
How on Earth is the Republican Party ever going to credibly court the Family Values crowd after they nominate Trump?
Might be a good thing long term.
Posted by: Tyrone
It isn't now. I don't know where you're getting your lines of crap from.
They aren't credibly courting ANYONE now, except for the Chamber of Commerce.
We just heard that the Congress can't be bothered to submit a budget on time, and you're dragging out the bullshit about socons.
Posted by: Diners Club at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (326rv)
i think it's over as a political force. Trump has undone it. If this many evangelicals are willing to enthusiastically embrace a social liberal, why bother pushing controversial stuff?
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (dciA+)
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can i ask how often you go to church?
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:20 PM (dciA+)
Given that he thinks Cruz is theocratic, I would say he doesn't attend a evangelical church at all. Protestant? maybe. Evangelical? I don't think so.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (3JA/M)
I will vote for him if he becomes the nominee. As I've said numerous times, "I would vote for dead possum over Hillary" which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of Trump. ;^)
So you are voting for Trump's Toupee?
Posted by: rd at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (v0YLX)
I don't know. The Chinese pretty much stole the Wu Tang Klan.
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (xUVR8)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (OxjQ5)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (Qvgg/)
undone it. If this many evangelicals are willing to enthusiastically
embrace a social liberal, why bother pushing controversial stuff?
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:33 PM (dciA+)
I do not think many actual evangelicals are.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (3JA/M)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/gm9mrys
Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
No, I believe her. As long as you accept that "us" means Clinton, Inc.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (w4NZ8)
Trump: good folks. Hard workers. I tell you, if we had more people like them in this country, we'd be beautiful. I'd love to have them build our big beautiful wall.
Question: what happened during the wedding at Cana?
Trump: a flood. A huge flood. Luckily, Noah built a boat. A big, beautiful boat that saved the wedding party, including the dove they released after yelling "Mazetoff!"
Posted by: MacGruber at April 14, 2016 04:34 PM (FEAjO)
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (MxONJ)
And Trump maketh me almost to fall down upon green pastures...
...well...not green pastures...
...linoleum....
Trump almost maketh me falleth down upon linoleum.
And ripeth off mine arm...
...almost...
Then why Oh Court! Why hast thou forsaken me with my almost fallething down and almost having mine arm ripethed off as if by stallions!
Why?!?!?!?!
Posted by: Song of St Fields at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (0cMkb)
I'm choking to death.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (evdj2)
Is this really all one has to do? If Hillary had done that, everything would be completely gone? I find that difficult to believe.
Posted by: Sambo at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (CwNIZ)
Posted by: MoJo-Tee at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (aR8Ih)
I gave up on sermons, and the people who feel a compulsion to give them, a long time ago.
Posted by: just wait, you won't believe what happens next at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (IQI2h)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (NeFrd)
This. And I hate assholes that tell me that their faith means nothing in the public sphere.......unless an opinion poll says otherwise (ex: Katshit and unlimited immigration). Or when they're whoring around for a vote or a dollar (ex: Biden, Rep Carney (D-DE) who's family used to belong to our Parish.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (326rv)
I know, right?
What a hack!
Posted by: Barack the Magnificent at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: nckate at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (UWHSi)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (kTF2Z)
how about you just leave forever?
I'm really tired of you fucking crybaby bitches and your endless flouncings out the door.
GET THE FUCK OUT AND STAY THE FUCK OUT
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (dciA+)
I'm choking to death.
So THAT'S why Marlon Perkins was so religious. Who knew?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (4dbPD)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 04:37 PM (NeFrd)
How on Earth is the Republican Party ever going to credibly court the Family Values crowd after they nominate Trump?
Might be a good thing long term. "
I think it means we become like Europe where these social values aren't big issues in elections.
Trump also shows that a lot of voters really don't mind big government, also a more European right-wing party aspect.
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:37 PM (UBBWX)
I ha a sad. Do I need to go to my safe space now?
J/K. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:37 PM (w4NZ8)
If you say you're leaving, for the millionth time, I've got news for you -- you're leaving.
My choice.
I'm tired of the flouncings.
JUST FUCKING GO ALREADY
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:37 PM (dciA+)
Way back when, a regular who posted here attended Bible classes with Hillary when she was in the Senate. Maybe, it was Bible breakfast? He said he believed she was sincere in her religious beliefs.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 04:37 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:37 PM (xUVR8)
And I totally nailed that hot MILFy MILF!
Posted by: Donald Trump! at April 14, 2016 04:37 PM (+B4Qh)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
She accidentally told the truth when she used the term baby instead of fetus which got PP all wee-weed up. Which makes her stance even more reprehensible.
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (5IbVn)
Verily, do not squat on the Sabbath for it is unclean.
What say you, Donald?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (FsuaD)
Where's that coming from...how'd it get in here, Lord have mercy, ain't there nothing sacred any more?
And, and Jesus...Jesus said....god damn it unplug that fucking noise! I'm in here trying to tell people about Jesus, But all the god damn noise is going on in here, Ain't there nothing sacred any moooore?!?!?
Posted by: ajmojo at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: Harun at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (UBBWX)
I thought we weren't doing Drudge Headlines, anymore?
That's actually from Genesis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 14, 2016 04:38 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (evdj2)
You know that is why Muslims are now overrunning Europe and the west. The Pope is basically begging them to conquer it.
But they will be presidential and will say all the nice stuff in the Bible to make themselves look so sensitive and "Jesus Man" like.
No wonder the Vikings ran wild back in the day until the Christians changed their tune about stuff like this. I guess having sacred objects taken by the Vikings over and over again and re-ransomed over and over got the Catholics off their anti-war kick. Maybe the Pope can get captured and ransomed a couple of times...maybe he will see the light.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: Moneylender at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (326rv)
Or when, after vilifying me for applying faith to numerous current issues, decide to lecture me on why my religion compels me to support some government program they're selling.
Yeah, how dare I want to stop late-term abortion because I value life, yet I am a bad Christian for not supporting Obama's Muslim refugee plan.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (NOIQH)
Got news for you -- I can choose which commenters I choose to allow to come here.
Two way street.
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (evdj2)
http://tinyurl.com/zajrasd
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No shit.
Posted by: OPM at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (rlfds)
Posted by: Golfman at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (48QDY)
It's a fucked up world.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!
Word.
Posted by: Lola at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (326rv)
Christ knocked over tables and whipped money-lenders because they profaned the sacred.
Christ is King of Kings and the final Judge. We should be imitating him ... the injustice we see nationally and globally is because we do NOT.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:17 PM (uURQL)
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Yeah, I never could figure out how that worked out with "turn the other cheek." It more closely resembles "an eye for an eye" if you ask me. Same thing for that talk about millstones hung around people's necks.
Anyway, that's the Christ I'll go with in international relations and politics in general.
In other words, Trump is right.
Posted by: iforgot at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (pC96u)
A Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is great! really, really...really very good!
Posted by: Donald Trump at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (xUVR8)
Posted by: Malignantly aggrieved and economically useless at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (3ZttN)
JUST FUCKING GO ALREADY
Posted by: Donald F. Trump
I don't know about the rest of you 'ettes, but that made me hot
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (oiNtH)
rather preposterous. A prayer breakfast where she pandered to whichever group she needed to?-yes
O.K. I'm being all judgey here; Sorry.
She's her now Goddess.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Golfman at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (48QDY)
really. But I respect and embrace America's Judeo-Christian values and
heritage. I believe in the free exercise of religion, as our Founders
did. I believe in tolerance for the traditionally religious and the
unreligious alike."
Umm can you make that fit in 140 characters or less? Kthxbai
Posted by: Donald Trump! at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (+B4Qh)
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Morgan Freeman at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (FXW24)
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (oiNtH)
Yeah, but then I remember his description of his intestinal issues yesterday. {{{shudder}}}
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (xUVR8)
You mean like that brutal, savage attack on Michelle Fields? By Trump's fascist goons?
ACE SHITTING HIMSELF WITH EVERY POST NOW . . . DEVELOPING
Posted by: tsj017 at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (4YUWF)
Posted by: Sambo at April 14, 2016 04:35 PM (CwNIZ)
The thing with Hillary's emails is that the emails touch a lot of different servers, and a proper backup system has multiple computers and copies that will not be affected by a single command.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 14, 2016 04:41 PM (OxjQ5)
Posted by: Donald F. Trump at April 14, 2016 04:36 PM (dciA+)
Was that a sock puppet fail? LOL
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:42 PM (q177U)
Should be blood. If it's not, well, that could be trouble.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 14, 2016 04:42 PM (YEelc)
Posted by: Qoheleth at April 14, 2016 04:42 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Chi at April 14, 2016 04:42 PM (Te2JU)
I'm actually more concerned that Bucket Of Dog Vomit's theological bona fides may be a bit shaky.
Now, on the other hand, when it comes to Gaping, Freely Bleeding Head Wound? There is a candidate of true faith.
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 04:42 PM (noWW6)
I inf the idea that Hillary goes to regular Bible studies
rather preposterous.
She studies an irregular Bible.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 04:42 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: John Denver at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: Colour Sergeant Bourne at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (TnUKj)
I don't really give a crap how much of the Bible Trump knows. I don't care how "one of the people" any candidate is, and frankly wish they'd all stop lying about how Christian they are, as few of them really are.
What does annoy me is when some jackwagon leftist stands up and tries to lecture Christians about what we really believe of what the Bible actually teaches about some hot button leftist issue. Secretly, the Bible is all for homosexual marriage and men invading women's privacy!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (evdj2)
Is it time for the Pet Thread yet?
I feel the need to see some more cute Moronimals...
Posted by: Chi at April 14, 2016 04:42 PM (Te2JU)
We should have a pet thread every day.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (evdj2)
314 When I read God's word I hear the voice of Keith Jackson.
...
I hear George Burns.
Posted by: John Denver at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (1H9ox)
I hear myself!
Posted by: Donald Trump! at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (+B4Qh)
But then you banned whomever and that deleted his comment and now we don't know whom to sing songs about around the campfire.
I'm in favor of named public bannings with lots of shaming. And S'Mores.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 04:44 PM (1xUj/)
Stigmata'16!
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:44 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:44 PM (FsuaD)
Finest Corinthian leather. Luxurious.
Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 04:44 PM (UzPAd)
rather preposterous.
She studies an irregular Bible.
She put one of those leather Bible covers on a copy of Das Kapital.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 14, 2016 04:44 PM (9krrF)
Ace slices so fine that you don't even start bleeding for the first hour.
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:44 PM (xUVR8)
WTH is that about?
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:45 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 04:15 PM (ZbV+0)
How about Indian rug burns?
Posted by: kathysaysso at April 14, 2016 04:45 PM (43OZ6)
cheek." It more closely resembles "an eye for an eye" if you ask me.
Same thing for that talk about millstones hung around people's necks.
---
Yeah it's almost like some verses of the Bible discuss specific situations rather than overruling everything else that's in there forever.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 04:45 PM (ZbV+0)
It's a fucked up world.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!
Word.
Posted by: Lola at April 14, 2016 04:39 PM (326rv)
Perhaps Americans vote for candidates based on other issues that are more important to them and more pertinent to the office than an end-of-year quiz from Sunday school?
The Left isn't the only group that reduces people to cartoon characters.
Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Get Cheesed Off in Our Dairy Section! at April 14, 2016 04:45 PM (hLRSq)
Shoot, I just keep my head down. That way I don't have to find out if I'm ticking anyone off or not...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 14, 2016 04:45 PM (9krrF)
Speaking of religion - is Bernie giving a speech at the Vatican?
WTH is that about?
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:45 PM (nbrY/)
Socialists gotta socialize.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:46 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan at April 14, 2016 04:46 PM (so+oy)
No, the piece seems to be overblown. If he had a journaling file system much data could be recovered. Since journaling file systems are very common better than even odds he did. I'd also bet a comercial forensics outfit could get it all back.
Now if he had used the shred or dd commands he'd be in a world of hurt.
Posted by: mov at April 14, 2016 04:46 PM (kUmUV)
"Well, I think the answer is there is no evidence that the server, so far, hasn't (sic) been hacked but wouldn't be surprised if it had been hacked. I think that's what the campaign and Mrs. Clinton has said."
Davis went on to note that over the past several years reports have surfaced showing that governmental email servers had been hacked, including the State Department's non-classified server in November 2014.
In his response, Davis asserted that the Clinton campaign had stated that a hacking incident on the private server wouldn't come as a surprise.
... "questioned an international hacker named Guccifer for the sole purpose
of determining whether the private, non-governmental server had been
hacked"
Had that actually been established ? I think perhaps it was assumed to be part of the reason. I'm sure the FBI would like any stuff he downloaded before Hillary and her lawyers purged it of her "yoga" emails.
Posted by: Jose Angel Gutierrez at April 14, 2016 04:47 PM (e8kgV)
Foghorn Leghorn: "I saiah, I saiah, what's the big idea?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 04:47 PM (NeFrd)
(Self-made man, of course, apart from the loose cash he inherited from his daddy.)
Posted by: Qoheleth at April 14, 2016 04:47 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 14, 2016 04:47 PM (3hIZX)
Thank you. I was scrolling like a mofo trying to see who got the hammer.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 14, 2016 04:47 PM (/tuJf)
Bernie said early on he was indifferent to faith. Lately he says he is the way he is because of his religion. But that he doesn't practice his religion.
Kind of confusing .....
Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 04:48 PM (1rAS0)
Posted by: ajmojo at April 14, 2016 04:48 PM (1H9ox)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 14, 2016 04:48 PM (E6RIJ)
their heads out. I'm baffled by this. When commenters are getting
knocked out, I go into kiss-ass mode.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:43 PM (evdj2)
Sometimes the title of 'moron' must be earned.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 04:48 PM (ZbV+0)
Would someone please define it, as opposed to what I think of myself?
I want no theocracy.
Just leave me alone and don't make me allow two fags to get married in my church.
Or use my tax money for abortions.
Or use my tax money to teach kids about Jimmy's two daddies.
Posted by: Golfman at April 14, 2016 04:48 PM (48QDY)
Posted by: Pedro Cerrano at April 14, 2016 04:49 PM (12kBq)
When asked about a VP , Senator Cruz talked favorably of Marco Rubio....
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 04:49 PM (Iz75+)
Also, I want to make clear that none of Eleanor's communications were marked "classified" at the time I received them.
Posted by: Her Excellency Hillary Rodham Clinton at April 14, 2016 04:49 PM (noWW6)
How crude is this guy?
Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth at April 14, 2016 04:49 PM (Kc6y0)
the way he is because of his religion. But that he doesn't practice his
religion.
<<<
Bernie is a snake. Don't let the whacky old man act fool you.
Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: dabhidh at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (Es7YA)
"Well, out of the fulness of the heart the mouth speaks" She does say some odd stuff in connection to Scripture
And BTW, I pray for the protection of Donald Trump everyday.
And I think the whole "Thou shalt not judge" is often misused and overused. IMO, means not thinking someone else is s sinner when we all have our own sins and not pronouncing judgement on them. God will judge us all. Saying Trump doesn't sound like a practicing Christian is being particularly negatively evaluative. It's not like saying, "He's an evil sinner and deserves hellfire and I am righteous and pure."
But I don't really want to get into Bible war over Trump.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (w4NZ8)
Thank you. I was scrolling like a mofo trying to see who got the hammer
Yeah, but after I posted that ace said it was Fyscall Clyff, a nick I am not familiar with.
So, random dead troll.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Two guys with glass eyes at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (5IbVn)
Megyn Kelly went today and asked to be forgiven by Trump and Trump forgave her. That is what Christianity is all about - Forgiveness.
Posted by: William Eaton at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (KhJh8)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (NeFrd)
The Bible is the only book people read without any consideration for context or treat with any basic literary concepts. This is advice, not a rule. This is poetry, not history, etc. The most heartbreaking is when people try to use Bible verses like hand grenades, throwing them to blow up their opponent and giggling.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (39g3+)
I'm in favor of named public bannings with lots of shaming. And S'Mores.
Thinking it was fyscal clyf
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (4dbPD)
Posted by: nckate at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (UWHSi)
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 04:06 PM (zOTsN)
Wrong.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Going beyond what the Law allows is a different thing than rejecting the Law.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:12 PM (uURQL)
Fulfilling the Law means that He paid all the penalties listed in the OT. This is what his title, the "Lamb of God," means.
Posted by: baldilocks at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (ys2UW)
He might pick Walker as VP.
While Cruz speaks favorably of .......Rubio.
Ha.
Almost as funny as ace giving a candidate a Bible litmus test.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (Iz75+)
Posted by: iforgot at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (pC96u)
Look at the examples.
Go the extra mile. Roman soldiers could conscript civilians to carry their stuff for a mile. Jesus is telling them to go beyond what was required of them so that they demonstrate that they are choosing to do good to the recipient.
Why go to that bother? Because then we will be like our perfect heavenly Father who gives rain and sun to both the righteous and the wicked.
Clearing out the temple was because the moneylending and thievery was dishonoring God. Church corrupted into a lucrative business instead of being a place of worship.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (uURQL)
Speaking of religion - is Bernie giving a speech at the Vatican?
WTH is that about?
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:45 PM (nbrY/)
Bernie invited himself to the Vatican, didn't he? I'm kinda hoping the Vatican locks the door upon Bernie's arrival.In reality though, I'm afraid he'll be welcomed and embraced.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (jxbfJ)
do you routinely claim your political heroes to be God Himself?
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Two guys with glass eyes at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (5IbVn) Hide posts from (5IbVn)
Would I?
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (w4NZ8)
WTH is that about?
Posted by: @votermom
I think Bernie and the Pope are BFF's. When Bernie and his fellow travelers turn over all of their assets to the poor and when the Vatican allows ME migrants into their vaunted compound to feed and house them - then I may believe that they may be true believers. Until then...
Posted by: Cheri at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (FsuaD)
David to Goliath 4:20
Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (q177U)
Posted by: JackStraw
fhscyl clyff (something like that)
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (LAe3v)
So, random dead troll.
Not a real troll. Been around.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (4dbPD)
I guess this is one more way his "authenticity" is proved to be like his organizational skills, I.e., um, not so much.
All that being said, what a weird Bible passage to select as his favorite.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (3hIZX)
Megyn Kelly went today and asked to be forgiven by Trump and Trump forgave her.
........................
Bur first you will...
Posted by: Donaldo Trumptastic at April 14, 2016 04:52 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 04:52 PM (jJRIy)
Some people are always selling. That's why they get the Cadillac El Dorado, and not the steak knives... or fired.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 04:53 PM (39g3+)
all hail President Thunderlips, The Ultimate Male (TM)
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:53 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM
~~~~~
Hunchback! Hunchback!
Posted by: IrishEi at April 14, 2016 04:53 PM (E6RIJ)
do you routinely claim your political heroes to be God Himself?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
Priests grant absolution in Catholicism.
You just accused every Catholic in history of heresy.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 04:53 PM (Iz75+)
Posted by: Mortimer
Truly I say to you, the clueless will be with you always.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:53 PM (LAe3v)
^^^^
Oh this. And the stupid left is so bad about it. On minute they're calling me a hatey bigot that should keep my god bothering in the closet and the next they're beating that Bible in support of wealth redistribution or illegal immigration or whatnot. It's beyond annoying.
Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (KkVB6)
You may want to engage in some basic Bible study before you go judging someone else's Christian faith ...
Because I'm sure you know there's a verse where Jesus tells his
followers to not judge ... Go find that and read the full context.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (uURQL)
First, yes Jesus did specifically repudiate that in Matthew 5.
Second,
while final judgement and punishment are left to God, you are wrong in
general about biblical teaching on judgement. Christians are exhorted
many times to be on guard against false teachings and to hold each other
responsible for remaining righteous. see here:
http://www.christianissues.biz/judging.html for a partial discussion of
this.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: William Eaton at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (KhJh8)
Preach it, brother. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (w4NZ8)
>>He might pick Walker as VP.
Actually, he said he would consider Walker, Rubio and Kasich.
http://tinyurl.com/z4nu6a2
Posted by: JackStraw at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Bucket of Dog Vomit 2016! at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Just the Punchline at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (evdj2)
"Every day Mussolin breaks four horses, and every night, he breaks five women."
-- something that hero-worshipping weak male Fascists said in praise of the mighty manly Mussolini
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:55 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 04:55 PM (mFH7m)
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:55 PM (xUVR8)
Posted by: jazzuscounty at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (WP4vM)
Posted by: jazzuscounty at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (WP4vM)
You just accused every Catholic in history of heresy.
*points and laughs*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Jack at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (/haNQ)
I could answer harder questions than those.
Posted by: Satan of Berlin, Vt at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (qSIlh)
I can't find the article, but someone worked up an analysis of the "evangelical" vote in a few state primaries. The author was trying to prove that the more serious the voter's religion, the more likely s/he would vote for Cruz over Trump.
IIRC, there really wasn't enough data to support that thesis. But if you looked at the totals for the states, you'd find that self-described "evangelicals" broke about the same for Cruz as for Trump.
And some, of course, went for Rubio, Kasich, and....Gilmore!!!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (T/5A0)
Never having seen/read this before, I found it rather profound.
"Each of you, my young friends, finds yourself at a Westerplatte in your own lives. Some area where there are tasks which must be acknowledged and carried through. Some just cause for which you cannot NOT fight. Some duty or obligation which must not be shirked; there's no "deserting" in these matters. Lastly: some order of truths and values which must be "held," "defended," just like at Westerplatte, so within you and around you."
We are at this conjuncture folks. Thank you St. John Paul II for that insight.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (jxbfJ)
But going through it I saw a book titled "Who is Barack Obama?". The caption noted what Barack was Swahili for "supreme jerk" but he was known in school as Barry the Bomber for his remarkable jump shot.
He didn't order it but instead opted for something more realistic: Iron Man meets The Loch Ness Monster.
... and here everybody thought "Trump" meant "supreme jerk"
Posted by: Jorge Ramos at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (FsuaD)
Pick one. Tell her it looks really good on her. Sound very definite.
This will end the suffering.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (5IbVn)
their stuff for a mile. Jesus is telling them to go beyond what was
required of them so that they demonstrate that they are choosing to do
good to the recipient.
Why go to that bother? Because then we will be like our perfect
heavenly Father who gives rain and sun to both the righteous and the
wicked.
---
Additionally, it serves as a witness to that person that may somewhere down the road be used, with other similar interactions with the Body of Christ, by the Holy Spirit to convert them.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (39g3+)
Who begat Zebulon?
Is ostrich meat kosher?
Where did Cain and Abel find wives, if they were the only children of Adam and Eve, the first humans?
How can some of the earliest Dead Sea Scrolls seem to describe Jesus's career even though they are carbon-dated to 250 B.C.?
What did Jesus do for the first 30 years of his life, which are almost entirely unaccounted for in scripture, if he was indeed the Son of God that whole time?
Why does the Beast of Revelation wear his crowns on top of each of his ten horns, rather than directly on top of his heads like any normal demon?
Posted by: zombie at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (jBuUi)
Ezekiel 25:17, muthafuggas.
Posted by: Qoheleth at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: baldilocks at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (ys2UW)
Why not?
Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 04:52 PM (jJRIy)
On 18 August 1863, President Lincoln agreed to test the rifle with Spencer on a weedy plain extending from the White House to the unfinished Washington Monument. At a distance of forty yards, Lincoln fired seven consecutive rounds into a wooden board, directly hitting a crude bulls-eye with his second shot.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (1rAS0)
Posted by: Jack at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (/haNQ)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (Iz75+)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (NOIQH)
He has some good vines in his feed showing all the nutters on the left marching in Brooklyn this AM.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (iQIUe)
Criticizing Trump for saying "But you know, if you look at what's happening to our country, I mean, when you see what's going on with our country, how people are taking advantage of us, and how they scoff at us and laugh at us. And they laugh at our face, and they're taking our jobs, they're taking our money, they're taking the health of our country. And we have to be firm and have to be very strong. And we can learn a lot from the Bible, that I can tell you"?
Stupid.
Let's try this: put those SAME EXACT words in the mouth of, uh, say, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Rudy Giuliani or Rick Perry. This entire blog would be nothing but spooge. Wall-to-wall spooge.
Hell, what Trump said is THE cornerstone of the conservative platform.
Posted by: Dogstar at April 14, 2016 04:58 PM (KtapD)
Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 04:58 PM (HgMAr)
do you routinely claim your political heroes to be God Himself?
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 04:51 PM (dciA+)
We are instructed to forgive others like God forgave us, ace.
But in addition to forgiving Kelly, I hope, like a good Christian, he apologized for being a huge male member to her.
Also, while forgiveness is good, people's forgiving each other isn't what Christianity is all about. It is about being a Christ follower, appropriating his sacrifice for our sins to ourselves, trusting him, believing in His death and resurrection, and living for Him. I think that mostly covers it from a Scriptural perspective.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 14, 2016 04:58 PM (3hIZX)
I did that eye for an eye thing with immigrants.
I started mowing my own lawn.
Posted by: Dang at April 14, 2016 04:59 PM (2oWD2)
btw, with respect to the moneychangers in the Temple, and why Jesus reacted the way he did - they had never sinned against Jesus himself, rather their sin was directly against God, and it was that they were scamming and fleecing the people and using the temple that was supposed to be for the worship of God to do it.
In other words, they were the Donald Trump's of their day.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 14, 2016 04:59 PM (nEOHE)
It would be nice if he simply said he was an atheist or an agnostic instead of pretending.
Posted by: baldilocks
He could say he was "questioning", but that could be misinterpreted.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 04:59 PM (LAe3v)
If it was good enough for Martin Luther...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 04:59 PM (39g3+)
AOSHQ - the Internet one stop shop for Biblical and spiritual accuracy.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 04:57 PM (Iz75+)
And shit, don't forget the shit. Or the cereal. Or the dirty fvcking Scandis.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 04:59 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 04:59 PM (xUVR8)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 05:00 PM (NeFrd)
What's the cornerstone of the conservative platform?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 14, 2016 05:00 PM (5IbVn)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
Priests grant absolution in Catholicism.
You just accused every Catholic in history of heresy.
---
Practising Christians are pretty strongly encouraged to forgive those who wrong them as far as it concerns us, not just as a matter of absolution with God.
It's kind of weird that anyone would assume Trump's being compared to God in this situation.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 05:00 PM (ZbV+0)
Heard a state congressman a month or so ago, it's for the children suffering from a few diseases.
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (miXPX)
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (nbrY/)
The most heartbreaking is when people try to use Bible verses like hand grenades, throwing them to blow up their opponent and giggling.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
And the number of the counting shall be three.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (k4M/B)
Posted by: Moeron the Apostle at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (gUoN4)
And remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
-
Donald Trump
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 04:56 PM (39g3+)
Love both books! Just did a small group on Romans. Co-leading one on Hebrews this summer.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (3hIZX)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (evdj2)
The song "Everything's Alright" from Jesus Christ Superstar is one of only three hit songs in the history of American popular music to have a 5/4 time signature. Name the other two.
(For real: 500 quatloos to anyone here who gets this right. It's one of the most difficult musical trivia questions ever.)
Posted by: zombie at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (jBuUi)
I wish candidates would respond with "none of your business"
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 05:02 PM (zOTsN)
Why not?
First, that would not be a surprise - though more likely it would be Trump's pageant (Miss America?).
Second, look at ALL the Obamas have done, including calisthenics in the WH for "The Biggest Loser" (in a regular room, not a gym), Tony Hawk skateboarding through the WH halls, screening w/Star Wars w/storm troopers right around the time of the San Bernardino shooting, etc.
Sadly, not sure how a WWF match would be that much worse than the Obamas.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 14, 2016 05:02 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Skip the thread sniper at April 14, 2016 05:02 PM (miXPX)
Posted by: St. Donald at April 14, 2016 05:03 PM (2oWD2)
Give it up.
They can't hear past the pounding in their ears from the impending hate-stroke.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 05:03 PM (Iz75+)
Dave Brubeck Quartet, Take Five.
That's all I've got, so I'll settle for 250 quatloos.
Posted by: Qoheleth at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (nbrY/)
Zebulon's dad
Is ostrich meat kosher?
If prepared properly
Where did Cain and Abel find wives, if they were the only children of Adam and Eve, the first humans?
The Bible doesn't say
How can some of the earliest Dead Sea Scrolls seem to describe Jesus's career even though they are carbon-dated to 250 B.C.?
People used old paper a lot back then.
What did Jesus do for the first 30 years of his life, which are almost entirely unaccounted for in scripture, if he was indeed the Son of God that whole time?
"Grew in wisdom and stature," according to Hebrews.
Why does the Beast of Revelation wear his crowns on top of each of his ten horns, rather than directly on top of his heads like any normal demon?
The Beast is not contained by your fashion rules, subcreature!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (xUVR8)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (KRuzk)
You may want to engage in some basic Bible study before you go judging someone else's Christian faith ...
Because I'm sure you know there's a verse where Jesus tells his followers to not judge ... Go find that and read the full context.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (uURQL)
First, yes Jesus did specifically repudiate that in Matthew 5.
Completely wrong. Jesus does not repudiate any of God's Law from the OT. Jesus takes pains to say not a word of the Law is abolished.
Second, while final judgement and punishment are left to God, you are wrong in general about biblical teaching on judgement.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 04:54 PM (3JA/M)
I haven't said a thing on what biblical teaching on judgement is. Bandersnatch said he was an unbelieving cultural Christian, but was judging Trump as a Christian on theological matters. I told him to go look up a specific passage.
You don't know what you're talking about. Don't presume to lecture me on anything Biblical.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: garrett
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Damn you.
Now I have that En Vogue song stuck in my head.
The only thing that'll cure it is to play it on 11 a couple times...
Posted by: Chi at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (Te2JU)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 14, 2016 05:05 PM (5IbVn)
Posted by: auscolpyr at April 14, 2016 05:05 PM (Ht/4p)
Your belly is like a heap of wheat Fenced about with lilies.
Your two breasts are like two fawns, Twins of a gazelle.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 05:05 PM (1xUj/)
oh like MISTER Trump also did....
well you've really proved the case, Mortimer.
President Thuderlips really will be The Ultimate Man (TM)
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 05:05 PM (dciA+)
--
Dave Brubeck did one of them, dang it, can't recall the name.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 14, 2016 05:05 PM (Qvgg/)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 04:50 PM (39g3+)
============
No, using babies as hand grenades to blow up people is much worse:
https://goo.gl/ZVemPV
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 05:06 PM (iQIUe)
427
mow a man's lawn and he has tacos for lunch, teach a man to mow lawns and he has tacos every day
Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 05:06 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 14, 2016 05:06 PM (kTF2Z)
Dave Brubeck "Take Five"
Lalo Schifrin "'Mission: Impossible' Theme"
Mr Schifrin was very scornful and sarcastic when U2 did a 4/4 version of the theme.
My favorite Bible verse might be the one in Psalms: Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord.
Thy word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against Thee.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 05:06 PM (39g3+)
I've been racking my brains here. Was there a single state in which Gilmore did not place behind "Other" in the results?
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've grown tired of the acrimony. I'm hoping that if this goes to a contested, brokered convention, that the party will then find an acceptable consensus nominee behind whom we can all unite, and march forward proudly to victory in November.
Yes, I'm all in for President "Other".
Posted by: torquewrench at April 14, 2016 05:06 PM (noWW6)
- Cool Hand Luke 2:16
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 14, 2016 05:06 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Teh Donald at April 14, 2016 05:07 PM (eHpnh)
Priests grant absolution in Catholicism.
You just accused every Catholic in history of heresy.
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Practising Christians are pretty strongly encouraged to forgive those who wrong them as far as it concerns us, not just as a matter of absolution with God.
It's kind of weird that anyone would assume Trump's being compared to God in this situation.
...
you're so fucking tedious.
Posted by: ace at April 14, 2016 05:07 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 05:07 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 05:08 PM (Iz75+)
I'd also echo what many here have already said, that the hoopla about Michelle Fields was silly.
Charges against Lewandowski got dropped today, but this may not get the detailed press coverage as the original story.
At a press conference today, local prosecutors showed even more surveillance videotape. Michelle was not allowed in the scrum of reporters asking questions but along with some other reporters was relegated to a spot about 30 feet away, presumably because she had lesser credentials. She moved left and then snuck around the security guards to buttonhole Trump when he walked away from the scrum. So she put herself where she shouldn't have been.
Today, the prosecutors released the following, based on the additional video:
"First, in reviewing the video recording, Mr. Trump appears to react to Ms. Fields by pulling his arm back and away from her. This reaction could have reasonably led Mr. Lewandowski, following behind the two and from his vantage point, to legitimately believe that Ms. Fields was making unwanted physical contact with Mr. Trump, which caused Mr. Lewandowski to react by pulling her away. Second, as Mr. Trump's campaign manager, Mr. Lewandowski may have had apparent authority to assist [Secret Service agents] in the protection of the candidate, specifically to maintain the 'protective bubble' around the candidate."
I'd add that soon after this incident, Trump's Chicago rally was cancelled because of Soros' goon squad and bull rushes of Trump himself at rallies.
But the anti-Trumpers spun Michelles' boo-boo and the goon squads as evidence that Trump was somehow a Nazi and Lewandowski a brownshirt.
Just sayin'
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2016 05:08 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 14, 2016 05:08 PM (so+oy)
Posted by: Satan of Berlin, Vt at April 14, 2016 05:08 PM (qSIlh)
***
You guys are killing me.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at April 14, 2016 05:08 PM (SEXy3)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 05:09 PM (Iz75+)
Zebulon's dad
---
As Zebulon is one of the tribes of Israel, Jacob is probably the answer she's looking for.
Unless we're expected to know Zebulon's mom (good luck).
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 05:10 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Old Solomon was smoking something. I've used a lot of words to describe ta-tas, but never quadruped herbivores.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 05:10 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Old Solomon was smoking something. I've used a lot of words to describe ta-tas, but never quadruped herbivores.
Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 05:10 PM (LAe3v)
Don't gazelles locomote by a graceful bounding?
Gracefully bounding Kate Upton.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 05:11 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Oil Guy in Oil Bust at April 14, 2016 05:11 PM (k8OkY)
Probably, but I couldn't resist the silly answer
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 05:12 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: torquewrench
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Maybe Virginia?
I honestly don't know. But, he WAS our governor, and wasn't horrible at it...
Posted by: Chi at April 14, 2016 05:12 PM (Te2JU)
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2016 05:08 PM (r1fLd)
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She's lashing out at those who advised her not to sue in civil court.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 05:12 PM (iQIUe)
Sweater puppies implies quadrupeds.
Maybe Solomon didn't have any puppies and that was the best simile that came to mind.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 05:12 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Satan of Berlin, Vt at April 14, 2016 05:12 PM (qSIlh)
"They ask me all the time, what is your favorite this? What is your favorite that? What is your dat, buddadubbaduh? And one time, what is your favorite word? And I said, my favorite word, that is really easy: My favorite word is, the word. Is the word. And that is everything. it says it all for us. And you know the Biblical reference, you know the Gospel reference of, the word. And, uh, that...word...is, uh, wuh, We have to give to what that means in terms of public policy, that would be in keep with the values, uh, of the word. The word. Isn't is a beautiful word, when you think of it. Just covers everything. The Word. Heh heh heh. Fill it in with anything you want but of course we know it means, uh, the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us. And that's the uh, the great mystery other of our faith. Were, will come again. Will come again. So we have to make sure we're prepared to answer in this life or otherwise, uh, as to, uh, how we have, uh, measured up."
~Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi
Posted by: adc at April 14, 2016 05:13 PM (p580n)
Posted by: Satan of Berlin, Vt at April 14, 2016 05:14 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: auscolpyr
And 500 quatloos for you!!!!!
(Quatloos shower down from the sky.}
Posted by: zombie at April 14, 2016 05:14 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: NC Mountainl Girl at April 14, 2016 05:15 PM (3G4dR)
That's all I've got, so I'll settle for 250 quatloos.
Posted by: Qoheleth
Sadly, you would have gotten 250 quatloos if no one else had answered the full question correctly. But someone did at 458, so you get nuttin'. Kudos for getting it half right first, though!
Posted by: zombie at April 14, 2016 05:15 PM (jBuUi)
Lalo Schifrin "'Mission: Impossible' Theme"
Mr Schifrin was very scornful and sarcastic when U2 did a 4/4 version of the theme.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
You get one consolation quatloo for giving a more complete answer, even though auscolpyr beat you to the bunch with an earlier correct answer at 458.
Posted by: zombie at April 14, 2016 05:17 PM (jBuUi)
She's her now Goddess.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 04:40 PM (w4NZ
Rendering an opinion isn't the same as being judgy. We can get a pretty good idea of one's faith by their actions.
And there's no way in hell Hildebeast is a Christian, I don't care how many bible breakfasts she went to.
Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 05:18 PM (uiVGU)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 05:01 PM (evdj2
Doink
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 05:19 PM (voOPb)
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How so?
It makes no sense at all to, in the context of Christian beliefs which this entire thread has been, take a report of Trump forgiving Kelly for her bad behavior towards him and equating that with divine absolution.
Matthew 18:
21 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister who sins against me? Up to seven times?"
22 Jesus answered "I tell you not seven times but seventy-seven times."
If you want to make a reasonable criticism of that report, it's that the forgiveness requests weren't reported (and I only know the summary given by an earlier commenter) to go both ways, since he had some unpleasant things to say about her later.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 05:19 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 05:18 PM (uiVGU)
Bring all of the nonviable tissue mass to me?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 05:19 PM (voOPb)
Just hit ctrl + F and then paste their quote. if it isn't deleted you'll see
Posted by: Tilikum SBD KAW at April 14, 2016 05:20 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 05:20 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Prediger Schlamm at April 14, 2016 05:22 PM (I3+56)
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Of course she is, this was all about getting her fifteen minutes of fame and she's grasping for one final second of it.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, now apparently non-voting democrat at April 14, 2016 05:23 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 05:23 PM (Iz75+)
https://youtu.be/OQv4JGnXei4
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 05:24 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 05:25 PM (1xUj/)
We are in far greater danger of succumbing to the socilaist s than we are in danger of becoming a theocracy, which, by the way, would require modification or repeal of the first amendment.
There have been many devout Christian Presidents, starting with Washington. And yet, after all this time, we have never gotten close to a theocracy.
People that mention this are simply repeating whatever they can because they think it will scare people off of Cruz.
Sorry. Cruz is a constitutionalist. He understands the limitations of the office of the Presidency. Trump does not, and that is what makes him as dangerous as Obama.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 14, 2016 05:26 PM (Gl74b)
And that Trump will campaign for Hillary sidebar is especially cute given Ace will do the same if Trump wins.
Posted by: SaltyDonnie at April 14, 2016 05:26 PM (zBwYh)
Posted by: Tilikum SBD KAW at April 14, 2016 05:27 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: vinnymotto at April 14, 2016 05:31 PM (+0t2Z)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 14, 2016 05:39 PM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: RD Walker at April 14, 2016 05:41 PM (ImpgP)
Posted by: Gobbagoo at April 14, 2016 05:41 PM (H7eLj)
Why is that monotreme called a Duck-Billed Platypus rather than all duck-like waterfowl being called Platypus-Billed Ducks?
I blame Adam!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 14, 2016 05:42 PM (BK3ZS)
anti-Trump religion thread
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 05:23 PM (Iz75+)
Who is the "Anti Trump"? Are there any signs or ways of identifying him/it?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 05:44 PM (aRUb8)
Oh look everyone, concern troll is concerned.
Posted by: whatmeworry? at April 14, 2016 05:44 PM (dZGNV)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 14, 2016 05:47 PM (+gVQC)
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 05:52 PM (0sLvz)
Posted by: BaronofGrayMatter at April 14, 2016 05:56 PM (Osg/v)
The eye-for-an-eye guy behind door #1 or the anointed one behind door #2.
(thinking)
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 05:52 PM (0sLvz)
Which one would you choose?Just curious.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 06:02 PM (aRUb8)
Mercy needs to be given readily from the victims, though. You are to forgive your debtors, because you too incur debts. To do otherwise is to show ingratitude to the ultimate authority who has given you abundant mercy. But there is no reason for a person to agitate for all convicts to be pardoned or other misapplication of the Semon on the Mount.
That said, it is quite unlikely Trump has thought this through, but as someone running for chief executive, I think he committed a classic gaffe--blundering into the truth.
Posted by: Randy M at April 14, 2016 06:11 PM (iwy8d)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 14, 2016 06:22 PM (5csB/)
POTUS, Joint Chiefs, Justices, Congress critters, contractors, plumbers, the guy serving coffee, stripper on the pole, Snorky - I could give a shit about the accuracy of their religious practices. Priest, bishop, Pope - yes.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 14, 2016 06:22 PM (8H9eR)
Posted by: RoyLC at April 14, 2016 06:32 PM (DSwhx)
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 14, 2016 06:33 PM (5csB/)
If ability to quote the Bible accurately was my big requirement for POTUS, I'd be crazy for Fuckabee. But it's not.
POTUS, Joint Chiefs, Justices, Congress critters, contractors,
plumbers, the guy serving coffee, stripper on the pole, Snorky - I could
give a shit about the accuracy of their religious practices. Priest,
bishop, Pope - yes.
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 14, 2016 06:22 PM (8H9eR)
I agree with that, but that isn't the point imo. It's about a con conning people by pretending to value something he doesn't.THATS the kind of person I don't want as POTUS. Plumber, contractor, guy serving coffee, etc, I don't care about. You have the chance to spot them before you hire them or fire them after. We don't have that ability with POTUS.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 06:37 PM (aRUb8)
(thinking)
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 05:52 PM (0sLvz)
Which one would you choose?Just curious.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 06:02 PM (aRUb
On this criteria alone, neither.
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 06:41 PM (0sLvz)
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 06:41 PM (0sLvz)
I agree. But it was your criteria? Or not? (500+ posts. .can't read thru them)
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 06:48 PM (aRUb8)
You don't know what you're talking about. Don't presume to lecture me on anything Biblical.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (uURQL)
I presume RM. Go read Matthew 5.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 06:55 PM (nUJM6)
And of course, this weeks been shit....
Posted by: Dirty Randy at April 14, 2016 06:58 PM (nhHPu)
Posted by: Alex at April 14, 2016 06:58 PM (7Yy8M)
Just sayin', I don't think for a second that Trump has thought this through. But his instincts may be better than some peoples' poorly arrived at conclusions.
Posted by: West at April 14, 2016 07:01 PM (SkEkZ)
Posted by: Pragmatic at April 14, 2016 07:02 PM (0mskG)
Posted by: West at April 14, 2016 07:03 PM (SkEkZ)
Right? I found if I disable the hardline right after I get the block and F5 the iHeart site, it'll go through...except lately.... bastards....
Posted by: Dirty Randy at April 14, 2016 07:06 PM (nhHPu)
You don't know what you're talking about. Don't presume to lecture me on anything Biblical.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 05:04 PM (uURQL)
I presume RM. Go read Matthew 5.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 06:55 PM (nUJM6)
You know enough to retract one false accusation, but wish to double down on the other. You are speaking like a foolish woman.
Repudiate:
- refuse to accept or be associated with
- deny the truth or validity of
Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
So, is "eye for an eye" part of the Law and the Prophets? Yes.
Does Jesus abolish it? No. He plainly says he does not abolish any of it, not even a letter.
Woman, listen carefully to what Jesus said. The Law is still in effect and the Law says what it says. But Jesus taught his disciples that in certain situations where men do you evil, go and do this good to men. Because your father in heaven is perfect and this is how you act like him.
Jesus does not repudiate any of God's law, including "Eye for an Eye".
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:09 PM (uURQL)
Link? I could use a good schadenfreude.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 07:32 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 14, 2016 07:34 PM (ab2et)
wish to double down on the other. You are speaking like a foolish
woman.
Repudiate:
- refuse to accept or be associated with
- deny the truth or validity of
Matthew 5:17
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
So, is "eye for an eye" part of the Law and the Prophets? Yes.
Does Jesus abolish it? No. He plainly says he does not abolish any of it, not even a letter.
Woman, listen carefully to what Jesus said. The Law is still in
effect and the Law says what it says. But Jesus taught his disciples
that in certain situations where men do you evil, go and do this good to
men. Because your father in heaven is perfect and this is how you act
like him.
Jesus does not repudiate any of God's law, including "Eye for an Eye".
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:09 PM (uURQ
I did not falsely accuse anyone of anything and have repudiated nothing.
Additionally You.Are.Wrong. about this:
Matthew 5:38 through 42 -- "You have heard that it was said, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, give him your cloak as well. If anyone forces you to walk one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
Jesus specifically references the law of eye for an eye and replaces it in personal interactions with turn the other cheek.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 07:45 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 07:46 PM (nUJM6)
redbanzai, did you say this to me?
"Second, while final judgement and punishment are left to God, you are wrong in general about biblical teaching on judgement. "
What did I say that was wrong?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:48 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 06:48 PM (aRUb
You are right. It was my criteria. The "(thinking)" was an alternative way of saying the same thing I guess - if given only either of their religious personas as the criteria on which I would base my vote, I would have no immediate inclination for picking either.
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (0sLvz)
I did not falsely accuse anyone of anything and have repudiated nothing.
redbanzai, did you say this to me?
"Second, while final judgement and punishment are left to God, you are wrong in general about biblical teaching on judgement. "
What did I say that was wrong?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:48 PM (uURQL)
You may want to engage in some basic Bible study before you go judging someone else's Christian faith ...
Because I'm sure you know there's a verse where Jesus tells his
followers to not judge ... Go find that and read the full context.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM (uURQL) Answered already... I left you a link above.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 07:53 PM (nUJM6)
was an alternative way of saying the same thing I guess - if given only
either of their religious personas as the criteria on which I would
base my vote, I would have no immediate inclination for picking either.
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (0sLvz)
Thanks for the answer WwP. I can overthink things sometimes. Just naturally curious.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 07:58 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 07:53 PM (nUJM6)
"Because I'm sure you know there's a verse where Jesus tells his followers to not judge ... Go find that and read the full context."
1. I assumed someone's level of biblical knowledge
2. I told him to go look up the context of a particular verse
What in there is a wrong Biblical teaching on judgement?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 08:02 PM (uURQL)
But go ahead and fault a guy and disparage him because you don't like the same parts of the bible he does.
What is absolutely hilarious is that the vitriol you had towards Palin and Huckabee simply BECAUSE they were religious has been tossed away because you feel the need to bring down someone who is competing with your favorite candidate who now has that same quality that you shamelessly attacked the last two cycles.
Posted by: doug at April 14, 2016 08:10 PM (Y7fRE)
And given how far the pendulum has swung in feeling sorry for murderers, rapists, Jihadists, and the like, I would welcome a President who wants to go back to the old days.
The Pendulum needs to swing the other way, baby.
And it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.
Posted by: Pastorius at April 14, 2016 08:10 PM (gMAUH)
Posted by: Mikey at April 14, 2016 08:12 PM (+c8Y4)
Posted by: Mikey at April 14, 2016 08:12 PM (+c8Y4)
Exodus 21:24King James Version (KJV)
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot....
Are you saying that King James plagiarized Hammurabi? You can lose your crown for that, you know.
Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (0sLvz)
Jesus tells his followers to not judge ... Go find that and read the
full context."
1. I assumed someone's level of biblical knowledge
2. I told him to go look up the context of a particular verse
What in there is a wrong Biblical teaching on judgement?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 08:02 PM (uURQL)
It is wrong because your understanding is incomplete on judgement... look at this link which I already posted: http://www.christianissues.biz/judging.html ... Judgement is not only allowed but is necessary in the body of Christ so that we do not fall into error or succumb to false teachings.
Your understanding about "the law" and Jesus are also incomplete. Matthew 5 is the Sermon on the Mount and, in it, Jesus turns several Jewish laws on their head... including eye for and eye (also the Jewish law on divorce). You cannot pull half a verse out of Jesus sermon and represent it as all Jesus said about all Jewish laws... even in that chapter.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 08:35 PM (nUJM6)
competing with your favorite candidate who now has that same quality
that you shamelessly attacked the last two cycles.
Posted by: doug at April 14, 2016 08:10 PM (Y7fRE)
What are you basing that claim on? Just curious.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 14, 2016 08:50 PM (aRUb8)
Posted by: bour3 at April 14, 2016 08:53 PM (5x3+2)
if you look to a politician for spiritual council your soul will burn.
Posted by: sh at April 14, 2016 08:53 PM (+W2h0)
Posted by: ScurvyOaks at April 14, 2016 09:13 PM (1nJy2)
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 08:35 PM (nUJM6)
I asked you this question for a reason.
"What in there is a wrong Biblical teaching on judgement?"
I'm not teaching anything there. I'm telling someone to go look up a verse, and you're treating that as a theological statement on judgement.
You've jumped to a wrong conclusion when you say I am wrong. You don't even understand what I'm saying, so your judgement on what I said is faulty and pointless.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (uURQL)
THIS was your full post to ace:
You may want to engage in some basic Bible study before you go judging someone else's Christian faith ...
Because I'm sure you know there's a verse where Jesus tells his
followers to not judge ... Go find that and read the full context.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 04:30 PM
I understood nothing wrongly... you were calling down Ace for judging another's faith and referenced the a very famous quote from Jesus that is almost always used erroneously to try and bludgeon Christians into compliance with modern sinfulness and into not calling sin, sin.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 09:33 PM (nUJM6)
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 09:41 PM (Iz75+)
Posted by: Reverend Feltersnatch at April 14, 2016 10:00 PM (ZedYY)
It is also the protection that a targeted people need who live in a fallen world.
We are electing an Andy Jackson style warrior to be our guardian Leader. Not a coward hiding behind religious excuses to run away.
Posted by: Traditionalguy at April 14, 2016 10:22 PM (RaGP7)
and are now just sadly flapping your limp dicks around to try and get hard again but awh its just not there
Don't worry we will take care of you Cruz people. We wont forget about you. You're on the right track compared to the members of Bernie's band
Posted by: Jib at April 14, 2016 10:44 PM (p7ckx)
I don't care and it's a nice contrast to crazy weird preacher boy Ted.
Posted by: Doodads at April 14, 2016 11:45 PM (zJFWF)
And there you have redbanzai in a nutshell.
Posted by: Mortimer at April 14, 2016 09:41 PM (Iz75+)
Bite me.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 14, 2016 11:56 PM (nUJM6)
Complete miss. I was talking to Bandersnatch.
He was offended by Trump's favorite teaching of Eye for an Eye because he thought Jesus repudiated it, and he thought he knew more Bible than Trump.
Jesus did not. Bandersnatch has the excuse that he's an unbeliever. You, on the other hand, should know better than to state the nonsense that Jesus has repudiated God's Law.
Again, repudiate has a meaning described in a dictionary:
- refuse to accept or be associated with
- deny the truth or validity of
Will you claim that ...
Jesus "refuses to accept or be associated with" God's Law?
Jesus "denies the truth or validity of" God's Law?
Quit embarrassing yourself, woman.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 15, 2016 12:54 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 15, 2016 12:54 AM (1D4Ef)
Physician, heal thyself.
Posted by: baldilocks at April 15, 2016 02:33 AM (ys2UW)
Posted by: Trump for the win at April 15, 2016 03:03 AM (VvlL4)
The "Christian liberty" to disobey the old laws where love requires it comes, is it in Two Corinthians? Seriously, it's either Two or One (and anyone who claims it is wrong to say "Two Corinthians" is not just an idiot but is committing the sin of pride).
The passage is where Paul says that we are now to live by the spirit of the law, which Rabbi Hillel and Jesus both say is the law of love (to love your neighbor as yourself). Both say that this is "all the law and the prophets."
All of which means that, to find what love requires, look first to the letter of the law. Good for Trump for reminding people of that.
Posted by: Alec Rawls at April 15, 2016 04:11 AM (5z7RS)
What's wrong with that, really? Trumophobia is such a silly disease.
Posted by: Juicer at April 15, 2016 06:39 AM (E8h21)
Now Romney, there's a candidate with some Bible knowledge! AND he's tall with great hair and a wonderful smile!
Oo oo and what about that Huckabee, huh? A former minister! I bet he could quote that scripture all day long without a teleprompter! We should totally nominate him.
Oh wait, I hate the Bible, it's full of fairy tales, but VERY IMPORTANT fairy tales that ALL Prez candidates need to memorize from top to bottom. You know, like all the Grimm stories or Dr. Seuss books.
Posted by: Doppelganger Ace at April 15, 2016 10:18 AM (uzNN5)
Boy the wind has really gone out of the sails for the hit squad. It's
like you all shot your loads for Wisconsin (think about how dumb that
was and are now just sadly flapping your limp dicks around to try and get hard again but awh its just not there
Don't worry we will take care of you Cruz people. We wont forget
about you. You're on the right track compared to the members of Bernie's
band
Posted by: Jib at April 14, 2016 10:44 PM (p7ckx)
Just popped back into this thread.
What are you trying to say..can you articulate it in a way that is comprehensible? "Flapping dicks"..."shot loads"..."hard again"..etc, contain zero information usable to establish a position or counter an argument.
Posted by: Mr. Einstein at April 15, 2016 10:58 AM (aRUb8)
That was considered an improvement.
Because it means, you are wrong to stab someone because he stole from you or insulted you.
You pay back as hard as you received - but not more.
Posted by: okay at April 15, 2016 01:37 PM (DmjGw)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
"You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that ..."
"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.' But I tell you that ..."
"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.' But I tell you that ..."
"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but fulfill to the Lord the vows you have made.' But I tell you ..."
"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you ..."
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."
If Jesus repudiated "Eye for an eye", logically he has also repudiated "don't murder", "don't commit adultery", "certified divorce", and "loving your neighbor".
That is plain nonsense. Pop theology treats this passage as Jesus loosening the laws that we are to follow, but that is completely backwards.
Jesus clarified that the Law given by Moses and the prophets is the bare minimum, and that those who wish to be considered God's people must go beyond it and be perfect like God is.
Jesus did not lower the bar. He did not repudiate Eye for an Eye. He raised the standard to complete perfection. To say he repudiated the Law here is to completely miss the point of this sermon.
So as to you, redbanzai, go be perfect like your Heavenly Father. Be at peace.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 15, 2016 01:50 PM (uURQL)
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