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Bathrooms...A Continuing Series: North Carolina's Privacy Bill And The Left's Double Standard (CBD)

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Over at "This Ain't Hell," which is a good military blog (but not a very smart military blog), they ask an interesting question in a recent post, prompted by North Carolina's recent "Bathroom Bill," which does nothing more than protect privacy in bathrooms and locker rooms.

What gay-crusading corporations in North Carolina don’t get turns the SJWTM technique on its ear....

Here’s my conundrum: if it is immoral, even criminal or civilly liable for these mom-and-pop Christian businesses to deny services based on their fundamental beliefs, why is it not also immoral or legally actionable for large corporations to refuse their services to the citizens of those states where those who govern choose to pass legislation to protect the religious freedoms of their citizenry?

All perfectly logical, but it misses the point of the exercise....to crush traditional American society and force slavish adherence to progressive orthodoxy is their only goal. It is blatantly obvious that the Left cares nothing for transgenders. First; there are so few of them that even if they all voted it wouldn't matter a whit. Second; if the progs really cared, they wouldn't push chemical and surgical mutilation as an option for these disturbed people, but would advocate for psychological help.

And "Dildo's Bathroom Bill" would mandate two kinds of bathrooms, based on genetics. XX and XY is the way to go.

Yeah, yeah...there are other combinations, but this will work for 99.9% of the population. There's allosomebody* who won't fit!

*Genetics joke.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 Hat trick

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 07:08 PM (miXPX)

2 hellooooooooooo?

Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 07:09 PM (LAe3v)

3 Hi-yo!

Posted by: Urinal Cakes For Sale at April 14, 2016 07:09 PM (xUVR8)

4 Here's my conundrum: if it is immoral, even criminal or civilly liable
for these mom-and-pop Christian businesses to deny services based on
their fundamental beliefs, why is it not also immoral or legally
actionable for large corporations to refuse their services to the
citizens of those states where those who govern choose to pass
legislation to protect the religious freedoms of their citizenry?


Shut up, they explained.

Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 07:10 PM (LAe3v)

5 I am so sick of coed bathrooms and coed bathroom talk. Maybe they want to wipe my ass also?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 14, 2016 07:10 PM (Ozsfq)

6 Nice shitter.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 07:10 PM (9ym/8)

7 Leftists never give up, never take a win and go home

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 07:10 PM (miXPX)

8 Keep the government out of our bedrooms turns into get the government into our bathrooms.

Posted by: NCKate at April 14, 2016 07:10 PM (UWHSi)

9 Quiet in here. I know. TRUMP!!!!!

Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 07:10 PM (LAe3v)

10 This place has gone to toilet.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:11 PM (uURQL)

11 Oh Christ, another one about the bathrooms. And now, for a pleasant Mexican musical interlude:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/hjb2yjo

Posted by: Skookumchuk at April 14, 2016 07:11 PM (/WPPJ)

12 To crush traditional American society and force slavish adherence to progressive orthodoxy is their only goal.

And sadly they are succeeding...

Posted by: donna at April 14, 2016 07:11 PM (O2RFr)

13
And "Dildo's Bathroom Bill" would mandate two kinds of bathrooms, based on genetics. XX and XY is the way to go.








But enforcing the law would be problematic, with cops forcing people to pull down their genes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2016 07:12 PM (o98Jz)

14 A single slit trench down the center of the main corridor for all.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 14, 2016 07:12 PM (T78UI)

15
America is a free country. Everyone is free to pretend whatever they please.

But the pretending ends when it encroaches on other people's privacy and social traditions. Period. End of discussion.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM (/MtvT)

16 That looks like a bathroom from one of the classy libraries on the book thread.

Posted by: rickl at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM (sdi6R)

17 Everyone is free to pretend whatever they please.

Not anymore. Reality, he is a knocking.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM (uURQL)

18 Call me old fashined. Men poop with men. Women poop with women. That was pretty concrete.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM (9ym/8)

19 *pulls out Sharpie

*colors one white tile black


Waits for OCD to kick in

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM (hlMPp)

20 Well,that bathroom floor looks ready made to defecate on, for the young sexually ambiguous undergrad. Hope it has drains for hosing.

Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (sdxPm)

21 i'm flying out of Logan next week . I think I may be feelin' a female gender identity coming on ...

Posted by: jay hoenemeyer at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (w9FsE)

22 Reality, he is a knocking.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM (uURQL)

but is he packing?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (Ozsfq)

23
Women don't poop, tho.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (/MtvT)

24 This one is not like a lot of previous issues. Very few people making "strong stands" on this and attacking the law know much about the issue or the law its self. They just have heard this is the latest lefty cause and are piling on, whatever it happens to be.

Women's privacy, safe spaces, and microaggressions, as well as concepts of men being dangerous predators are being yelled at us every single day... then this comes up and only a monster would support such a law? Its absurdity to a level few things have ever even attempted.

SJW logic:
1) All men are rapists
2) Its evil to stop men from going into a woman's bathroom.
3) ????

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (39g3+)

25 Quiet in here. I know. TRUMP!!!!!


Posted by: pep at April 14, 2016 07:10 PM (LAe3v)

Bad news for you - Cruz has rocketed to a two point lead over Trump in the latest Fox poll.


Wait I meant over two points over Catshit.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (T78UI)

26 Ace shat himself. Now we get these bathroom threads.

btw, anyone ever have to use a sock to wipe while out hunting or fishing? THIS is the mystery of the missing socks unraveled.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (DXFk8)

27 Listening to Prager today and he was saying things like this are just simply the left working to wreck western civilization.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (miXPX)

28 XX & XY bathrooms aren't fair to those with extra chromosomes, like Florida Congressman Alan Grayson.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (7qAYi)

29 Why that bathroom is so clean you could eat off the floor!

Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (HgMAr)

30 Why is the Left so obsessed with bodily functions?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (nbrY/)

31
It's obvious that the only solution is to totally ban the public restroom. It no longer has a role in American Society.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (o98Jz)

32 30 Why is the Left so obsessed with bodily functions?
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (nbrY/)


---

Because they're assholes.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 14, 2016 07:16 PM (rlfds)

33 It's concrete block stall walls for extra soundproofing!

Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 07:16 PM (HgMAr)

34 Ace shat himself. Now we get these bathroom threads.

You haven't known humiliation and misery until you crap your own bed. Literally. Wake up from it. Nothing like a nice soothing night of making your bed and washing sheets and blankets in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:16 PM (39g3+)

35
The above bathroom is not suitable for females. The stalls dont even have doors. Females do more than poo and pee in the john (you figure it out) and need privacy.

Women's johns always have long lines because they take longer and dont have urinals. So the SJWs want the lines to get longer?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 07:16 PM (iQIUe)

36 And pussies, and dicks.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 14, 2016 07:16 PM (rlfds)

37 IS that a changing table?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 07:16 PM (rwI+c)

38

What the goal here? I seriously don't get it. Assuming their goal is to tear down traditional society. The chosen battlefield, the bathroom.

Why. This is really only truly vital to those seeking to use the bathroom as a place for sexual assignations ala former Gov Jim McGreevy. Same sex couples can use bathrooms for that now, without the unisex bathrooms

Who is this for? And why?

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:17 PM (zOTsN)

39 RM is still fighting away on the Bible thread.

"Woman...do not presume......You're speaking like a foolish woman..." Aaaaaaaaaargh!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 07:17 PM (w4NZ8)

40 Just get single person bathrooms.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:17 PM (nbrY/)

41 Reality, he is a knocking.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM (uURQL)

but is he packing?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (Ozsfq)



Player: I shoot Reality!

*Your bullets hit Reality. They have no effect.*

Posted by: LARP GM at April 14, 2016 07:17 PM (uURQL)

42
Why is the Left so obsessed with bodily functions?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (nbrY/)







I thought I covered this, you heathens.

Posted by: Zombie Sigmund Freud at April 14, 2016 07:17 PM (o98Jz)

43 Ace of Spades. Come for the Smart Military Analysis. Stay for the Shart Stories.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (iMxBJ)

44 Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 14, 2016 07:14 PM (T78UI)

Aaaaand, we're off! It's quarter beer night at our local AoS knife and gun club.... pants optional, dwarf tossing, and wet t-shirts. Extra action in the parking lot....

Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (sdxPm)

45 What the goal here? I seriously don't get it.

To destroy you and all you believe in, to break you and force you to submit.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (39g3+)

46 30 Why is the Left so obsessed with bodily functions?
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (nbrY/)

I have a theory...

Posted by: Dr. Sigmunf Freud at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (7qAYi)

47 I would love for this bathroom crusade to stall.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (GgxVX)

48

This is about sex to be sure. Gay people can use bathrooms for assignations already. What is the goal. No one is being deprived the use of a bathroom, for its intended purpose.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (zOTsN)

49
Why is the Left so obsessed with bodily functions?

Control. If they can make the rules about such things, they can pretty much order you to do anything.

And the Left is stuck, psychologically, in the toddler phase of human maturation.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:19 PM (/MtvT)

50 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 07:17 PM (w4NZ

I'm not going to ignore heretical nonsense.

You're welcome to weigh in on if Jesus repudiates God's Law, or not.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:19 PM (uURQL)

51
Hat trick
Posted by: Skip


Is that when you pull a rabbit out of it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 07:19 PM (k4M/B)

52 Dropped a deuce like a tranny in the night.

Posted by: Bruce Stringbean at April 14, 2016 07:20 PM (Dwehj)

53 I like to watch. Peeing and pooing. But not sex.

Posted by: Bern Victims at April 14, 2016 07:21 PM (HgMAr)

54

This makes no sense. Unless they want your kids

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:21 PM (zOTsN)

55 Just upperdeck all the bathrooms at every opportunity.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:21 PM (hlMPp)

56 29 Why that bathroom is so clean you could eat off the floor!

Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (HgMAr)



The virgin Mary herself would be proud to go in there and take a dump.

Posted by: Gunny Hartman at April 14, 2016 07:21 PM (DXFk8)

57 Granted I guess you can't in most public bathrooms.

Tis a shame.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:21 PM (hlMPp)

58 First World Problems

Posted by: tu3031 at April 14, 2016 07:22 PM (qJhUV)

59 To destroy you and all you believe in, to break you and force you to submit.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (39g3+)


There are four lights.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:22 PM (uURQL)

60 Why is the Left so obsessed with bodily functions?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (nbrY/)


Part of it is just because the subject of toilets and bodily functions squick out some people. Therefore they will not participate in any discussions.

Or

Shorter Alinsky, divide and conquer your opponents!

Posted by: rd at April 14, 2016 07:22 PM (v0YLX)

61
Iwould love for this bathroom crusade to stall.
Posted by: no good deed
......................

and be flushed from the news

Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 07:22 PM (HgMAr)

62
Which Canuck city or Univ was it that already had to suspend their all for everybody bathrooms, because shockingly men where peeping on women?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 14, 2016 07:23 PM (ODxAs)

63 Where is the bill for allowing ewoks to use public restrooms.

We've got ewoks literally shitting their pants! JUSTICE NOW!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 14, 2016 07:23 PM (4ErVI)

64 I can't image what kind of sick twist would launch a social justice fight just to sit next to me while I take a dump. I wouldn't choose to sit there if I didn't have to let alone make a public fight for it.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 14, 2016 07:23 PM (/tuJf)

65 And "Dildo's Bathroom Bill" would mandate two kinds of bathrooms, based on genetics. XX and XY is the way to go.

Go further and don't even take "gender" (being legally seperate and disctinct from biological sex) into consideration.

Can't discriminate if you don't ever take it into account...

Posted by: The Gendered Hat at April 14, 2016 07:23 PM (vBeA5)

66 btw, anyone ever have to use a sock to wipe while out hunting or fishing? THIS is the mystery of the missing socks unraveled.


Sock, no.

Leaves, yes.

Never forget, "leaves of three, let them be".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 07:24 PM (1xUj/)

67 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 14, 2016 07:24 PM (KCxzN)

68 Micheal Moore is boycotting us. Remind me again why we didn't pass this bill earlier.



Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 07:24 PM (jJRIy)

69 All I want in a bathroom is privacy.
I need to hire a bodyguard, who will go in and make everyone get out, then guard the door so no one comes in.
Like Hillary does.
Which someone should bring up if she defends this "anyone can go in any gender bathroom" crusade.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:24 PM (nbrY/)

70 They win and are going to win because in order for them not to win people are going to have to say and do unpleasant things, these unpleasant things will provoke a reaction and most people are not equipped or prepared for the fight so they relent.

And the line in the sand moves a little further toward the cliff.

The ratchet moves a step closer toward oblivion.

Posted by: Kreplach at April 14, 2016 07:25 PM (WVvzl)

71 http://tinyurl.com/m6zmsk8

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:25 PM (hlMPp)

72 I'm gonna destroy that place! Outa my way!

Posted by: Abuela Salpicar at April 14, 2016 07:26 PM (HgMAr)

73 You're welcome to weigh in on if Jesus repudiates God's Law, or not.

Best way to understand that is to understand the Old Testament laws. There were three categories:

1) Moral law: the Ten Commandments; laws which reflect the character of God and ethical behavior.
2) Ceremonial law: laws regarding cleanliness and religious activity
3) Civil law: laws regarding the organization and structure of the theocratic kingdom.

Nothing does away with 1) Moral Law. That's simply the way the universe is structured, and cannot be changed. Jesus perfectly obeyed this in the place of the saved and adopted children of God.

The 2) Ceremonial law was completely fulfilled by Jesus Christ, since their entire purpose was to look forward to His coming and to demonstrate the level of sin in us all and the need for cleansing that. All the hand washing and ceremonial uncleaness and so on were about teaching former slaves about sin and righteousness (and some hygiene and food safety). We are no longer under this system or law in any way, because Jesus has fulfilled and is the personification of it all (Romans, Hebrews, Galatians, etc)

The 3) Civil Law was a structure so that a people who had been many generations as slaves would know how to run a government and build a nation. Only Israel was under that law, although since it was God's pattern for a holy nation, it would be foolish to simply disregard that.

So it too simplistic to ask "did Jesus repudiate the law" because it depends what you're talking about.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:26 PM (39g3+)

74 So, if I make a quip about Jesus sticking his head out of the tomb, seeing his shadow and going back in means six more weeks of winter, that's like heresy or something? Cause We thought it was funny in Sunday school. Along with our renditions of "what a friend I have in Jesus", and the hare lipped angel song, for Christmas. Not sure if that's heresy or Sunday school boredom stuff.

Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 07:26 PM (sdxPm)

75 Sex-Segregated Public Restrooms Are an Outdated Relic of Victorian Paternalism

*linke for Slate article at 71.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:26 PM (hlMPp)

76 The reason that the left wants to force you to call a man a woman, or two men a marriage, is the same reason that Big Brother wanted Winston to see 5,3 or how every many fingers they wanted instead of the 4 that were there - control.

If the left can force you to believe things that are obviously false, they can force you to believe anything.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 14, 2016 07:26 PM (pibXr)

77 Since no one is being deprived of bathroom use literally, I just don't see why this is the hill they have chosen

Is it because they want the European unisex bathrooms? Most Europeon bathrooms have no crack in the door and the door goes all the way to the floor. No peeping

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:27 PM (zOTsN)

78 They win and are going to win because in order for them not to win people are going to have to say and do unpleasant things, these unpleasant things will provoke a reaction and most people are not equipped or prepared for the fight so they relent.

They're not going to win against reality.

They're lord it over those foolish enough to surrender to them ... but stand firm and they will flee, shrieking.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:27 PM (uURQL)

79
The Left are really making sure that no women ever use a public bathroom.

Its all for the dudes. Learn to hold it til ya get home sister.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 14, 2016 07:28 PM (ODxAs)

80 Note, 90% of these "trans" people are sick men dressing up as women so they can be peeking Toms.



Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 07:28 PM (jJRIy)

81 Some day, a real rain will come...

Posted by: Travis Bickle at April 14, 2016 07:28 PM (qJhUV)

82 Do they have a handicapped stall?

Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 14, 2016 07:28 PM (ab2et)

83 Sex-Segregated Public Restrooms Are an Outdated Relic of Victorian Paternalism

Awesome, let's go back to chamber pots and outhouses.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 07:29 PM (GgxVX)

84 "Women don't poop, tho."

So, by birth, the've figured a way around and physics and physiology.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 07:29 PM (9ym/8)

85 The left believe *literally* that Eartly salvation can be had only if Everyone Works Together (as they are Told by the Left).

So *everything* they do is to obtain the Power and Control they think will Save Us All.

I mean, pretty much all their history is a flip-out that someone dares to work against them - just look at the pantywaist leftist TV preacher Bill Nye's desire to jail people who disagree with him.

Somebody should ask him if he voted for Obama, then say 12 million people lost their insurance so he should go to jail.

Anyway, side issue, the bathroom thing is just item #7462 on the list of Shit To Obtain Obedience Through Intimidation. The details don't even matter, though they will act like it's the most important thing in the world until it's time for the next one.

I don't know if you can even get past the MFM+Captured Bureaucracy at this point, but it's only going to get worse if we can't.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 07:29 PM (wB8Tg)

86 Well if bathrooms are unisex then no way I am sending my kid in there without me. I'm going in

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (zOTsN)

87 Charlotte paper has been running this story non stop now for two weeks.


Anyone know any other city where the mayor trashes her own town?



Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (jJRIy)

88 Women should bring pepper spray to the bathroom.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (nbrY/)

89 If the left can force you to believe things that are obviously false, they can force you to believe anything.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 14, 2016 07:26 PM (pibXr)

See Warming, Global.

Solzhenitsyn said that the worst part of life in the USSR was being forced to believe things that everyone knew were lies.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (7qAYi)

90 >>Note, 90% of these "trans" people are sick men dressing up as women so they can be peeking Toms.


Peking Tom

... is that like a Chinese Thanksgiving Tradition.

Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (xUVR8)

91 "Dildo's Bathroom Bill"

If you ever had a dick use the mens room or the ladies get to shoot you.

Posted by: DaveA at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (DL2i+)

92 88 Women should bring pepper spray to the bathroom.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (nbrY/)

---

Pfft.

I'd rather have something measured in calibers.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (rlfds)

93
"Women don't poop, tho."
.................

Yeah, I checked my Barbie to confirm. But Ken has me confused.

Posted by: wth at April 14, 2016 07:31 PM (HgMAr)

94 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:19 PM (uURQL)

O.K, Caped Crusader. You go ahead!

Although it wasn't so much that, although I think the person who hit the nail on that head in that thread among others was Baldilocks.
It' was the "woman this,":woman..that" bit. if you're a woman it' sounds foolish. if you're a man it sounds rather like John Winthrop with Anne Hutchinson. She has a handle, Why not use it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 07:31 PM (w4NZ8)

95
And the line in the sand moves a little further toward the cliff.

Bugs Bunny and Yosemite Sam.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 07:31 PM (k4M/B)

96 Pfft.

I'd rather have something measured in calibers.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (rlfds)

--

Can one legally shoot a peeping Tom in a public place though?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:32 PM (nbrY/)

97
If the left can force you to believe things that are obviously false, they can force you to believe anything.


or, as Senator Roark put it in Sin City:

Power don't come from a badge or a gun. Power comes from lying. Lying big and gettin' the whole damn world to play along with you. Once you've got everybody agreeing with what they know in their hearts ain't true, you've got 'em by the balls.



Its all for the dudes. Learn to hold it til ya get home sister.

To be fair, men are physically designed to hold it in better and longer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:32 PM (39g3+)

98 "Women should bring pepper spray to the bathroom."


There ya go.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 07:32 PM (9ym/8)

99 Lutheran Satire actually does a funny and informative video on the differences between ceremonial/civil and religious law.

http://tinyurl.com/hl8x3w4

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at April 14, 2016 07:32 PM (n2GmV)

100 Who is this for? And why?

Chicago Cubs fans-- who got tired of the long wait lines for the men's johns during last year's opening at Wrigley-- so they peed in their empty beer cups. (Ducks before navycopjoe shows up).

Bleacher Report article at http://tinyurl.com/j44hmn4

Posted by: Basement Cat at April 14, 2016 07:33 PM (3C9q2)

101
88 Women should bring pepper spray to the bathroom.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:30 PM (nbrY/)
And Febreze. Lots of Febreze. Something lilacy.

Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 07:33 PM (sdxPm)

102 It is remarkable that an issue that did not exist a year ago is now the bright dividing line between good & evil.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 14, 2016 07:33 PM (7qAYi)

103 So it too simplistic to ask "did Jesus repudiate the law" because it depends what you're talking about.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:26 PM (39g3+)


Even with that categorization, I don't agree. Fulfillment is not abolishment. My not being under British law does not mean British law is abolished or repudiated. My not being under the Law described in the OT does not mean it has been done away with.

Any further discussion should be kicked downstairs, IMO. Doesn't belong in the toilet thread.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:33 PM (uURQL)

104 There ought to be a bathroom just for pregnant women. It's impossible to hold it when you're preggers.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:33 PM (nbrY/)

105 >>Can one legally shoot a peeping Tom in a public place though?


12 Gauge Shotgun. Right through the Stall Door.

That'll run'em off!

Posted by: Sherriff Joe Biden at April 14, 2016 07:34 PM (xUVR8)

106 12 Gauge Shotgun. Right through the Stall Door.



That'll run'em off!


Probably would, at that.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 07:35 PM (bZ7mE)

107

This is about using for bathrooms for other than their intended purpose

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:35 PM (zOTsN)

108 As a Moron noted yesterday, as a male, the world is my outhouse.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 07:36 PM (rwI+c)

109 It is remarkable that an issue that did not exist a year ago is now the bright dividing line between good & evil.
***
Remember when Barack Obama opposed gay "marriage"?

"I have been very clear on this, have said I am not a supporter of gay marriage."

Posted by: 18-1 at April 14, 2016 07:36 PM (pibXr)

110 Might be charged with a salt if you use pepper spray

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:36 PM (hlMPp)

111 I never did it, but I witnessed other people flushing cherry bombs when I was a kid.

Just sayin.'

But I never did it.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 14, 2016 07:36 PM (eHpnh)

112 Even with that categorization, I don't agree. Fulfillment is not abolishment.

The ceremonial law is abolished by Christ's fulfillment in the sense that its purpose has been completed and it is no longer needed or even correct to continue. Jesus Christ was its purpose, direction, and fulfillment. Once He came, lived, and died, then the ceremonial laws became null and void. Sacrificing lambs and goats would not only be pointless, but sinful, after the one perfect sacrifice. As Hebrews notes: those sacrifices did nothing to help with sin, they were types and images of Christ, that pointed toward His propitiating work on the cross and perfect life for us.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:37 PM (39g3+)

113 107

This is about using for bathrooms for other than their intended purpose
Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:35 PM (zOTsN)

Maybe like rest stops on the interstates.

Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 07:37 PM (sdxPm)

114 What we really need to do is Publicize their Hypocrisy....

Disney, who is boycotting a couple States now for 'No Gay Cakes' and bathroom issues...

Has Disney STORES and a Disney Channel in Saudi Arabia... a place where the High Court just called to KILL more Gays.

So apparently multiculturalism is WAY OK... unless it is Hetrosexual or Christian, and in the US...

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 14, 2016 07:37 PM (qf6WZ)

115 Alyssa Milano got fat. Wow

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:37 PM (zOTsN)

116 Josephistan:

Here are a couple of links that another Moron posted many months ago that should help. The first is the AoSHQ Survival Guide, and the second is a list of emoticons that can be used here.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/za8aqzr


http://preview.tinyurl.com/4e8v2wh

Hope it helps!

Posted by: IrishEi at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (E6RIJ)

117 PJ Media is closing shop?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (nbrY/)

118 102 It is remarkable that an issue that did not exist a year ago is now the bright dividing line between good & evil.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 14, 2016 07:33 PM (7qAYi)

They won the last great battle between good and evil...

Now bake those homos a cake and make it snazzy!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (hlMPp)

119 It' was the "woman this,":woman..that" bit. if you're a woman it' sounds foolish. if you're a man it sounds rather like John Winthrop with Anne Hutchinson. She has a handle, Why not use it?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 07:31 PM (w4NZ


Because those are Biblical references.

Don't you recognize them?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (uURQL)

120 Quite a few places around Dallas have gone the gender neutral route with restrooms. Single occupancy, all comers.

One bar I went to... all I can say is that I am glad I'm not a woman. I'd sooner squat in the parking lot than make physical contact with any surface in there.

Posted by: Damiano at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (XItbt)

121 Are we sure there is nothing with these con-trails? Because, I swear to God, people are becoming more brain-dead and feeble-minded right before my eyes.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 07:39 PM (CFc5L)

122 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (uURQL)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 07:39 PM (w4NZ8)

123 I always love a good genetics joke.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 14, 2016 07:40 PM (8ZskC)

124 Once He came, lived, and died, then the ceremonial laws became null and void.

Symbolized by the tearing of the curtain to the Holy of Holys.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 07:40 PM (rwI+c)

125 117
PJ Media is closing shop?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (nbrY/)
What? I thought Insty was one of the largest blog sites on the intertubes?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 07:40 PM (jJRIy)

126 I swear to God, people are becoming more brain-dead and feeble-minded right before my eyes.

As CS Lewis noted, when the first thing you take away is rational thought and absolutes, this is where you end up. Cowards, imbeciles, soulless people without purpose or backbone.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:40 PM (39g3+)

127 121 Are we sure there is nothing with these con-trails? Because, I swear to God, people are becoming more brain-dead and feeble-minded right before my eyes.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 07:39 PM (CFc5L)

That's why the horde is in bed with Big Oscillating Fan and Big Vinegar. We done stays smaht!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:41 PM (hlMPp)

128 @117

Nothing on the web about that, yet. Source?

Posted by: Nip Sip at April 14, 2016 07:41 PM (jJRIy)

129 I still blame the Large Hadron Collider. It's just too ... coincidental for me.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 07:42 PM (rwI+c)

130 So apparently multiculturalism is WAY OK... unless it is Hetrosexual or Christian, and in the US...

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 14, 2016 07:37 PM (qf6WZ) fnord (qf6WZ)


I know of no version of "multiculturalism" that is not a lie. It is always, in my experience, an attack on Western culture. It always says respect *other* cultures at the expense of Western culture.

Cultural Marxism, Long March, yadda yadda.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 07:42 PM (wB8Tg)

131 Symbolized by the tearing of the curtain to the Holy of Holys.

The part I love about that was that this was where God was, on earth to the Hebrews. They sewed bells into the ceremonial robe used on the one day of the year the high priest entered the Holy of Holies, after a week of purification, so that if he was struck dead by God, they could tell and pull him out by a cord around his ankle.

That tearing of the (very thick) curtain was not someone getting in.

It was God coming out. That's how they would have seen it, and it would have scared the living crap out of the priests.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:43 PM (39g3+)

132 There in the relatively few times that bathrooms have gone Ally Mcbeal that are legally free peeing zones. But all ready there have been perps involved. If it would go main stream to have free access to bathrooms the amount of crimes will go up equally.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 07:43 PM (miXPX)

133 One bar I went to... all I can say is that I am glad
I'm not a woman. I'd sooner squat in the parking lot than make physical
contact with any surface in there.

Posted by: Damiano at April 14, 2016 07:38 PM (XItbt)

There's a hover technique that can be used in those circumstances. Requires good quads though.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 07:43 PM (v0/PR)

134
Why do they do this?

Because it's good politics. Even if it is unpopular and disgraceful, there is a lot of political value to be gained here by simply creating an issue and making Other try to reject it.

The Left just made us all get down in the shit-slop and roll around with them. When we're done, we're covered in shit. We don't like that very much.

Ever hear the saying Never Get Into A Fight With An Ugly Man? Because he has nothing to lose. The lesson is to never get into a fight with someone who has nothing to lose. You'll lose, one way or another (usually in court).

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:43 PM (/MtvT)

135 115 Alyssa Milano got fat. Wow

You got it wrong. That's Yasmine Bleeth, who ate Alyssa Milano

Posted by: wooga at April 14, 2016 07:44 PM (1qk2d)

136 I have to say I'm a little amused that the toilet thread has gone theological.

We're a diverse set. Cheers, Horde.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:44 PM (uURQL)

137
There's a hover technique that can be used in those circumstances. Requires good quads though.
Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 07:43 PM (v0/PR

Do it drunk, and hilarity ensues.

Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 07:45 PM (sdxPm)

138 Later horde.

See ya on the ONT.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:45 PM (hlMPp)

139 Oh just the pj tv part
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2016/04/14/its-the-end-of-an-era-2/

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:45 PM (nbrY/)

140 Euro bathrooms besides having solid walls and no cracks, have 24/7 attendants.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 07:45 PM (iQIUe)

141 Do it drunk, and hilarity ensues.

Posted by: kraken at April 14, 2016 07:45 PM (sdxPm)

Oh indeed! Although, at that point you don't care what you just sat in.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 07:46 PM (v0/PR)

142 There's a hover technique that can be used in those circumstances.

Stand on the edges of the toilet, and hope your feet don't slip. Japanese toilets are build set into the ground presuming this technique. They claim its better, but I think its just a cultural thing they prefer and search for reasons its better than filthy foreigners.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:47 PM (39g3+)

143 Euro bathrooms besides having solid walls and no cracks, have 24/7 attendants.
___
MOAR minimum wage jobs!

And don't forget to tip!

Posted by: The Left at April 14, 2016 07:47 PM (pibXr)

144 Seems to me that if a transgender uses the bathroom that doesn't match their plumbing, unless they're actively creating some sort of disturbance, most of the time nobody will even notice since they'll be doing their business in a stall.


Oh wait, it's the lefty/SJW crowd pushing this, of course they'll be actively creating a disturbance.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at April 14, 2016 07:47 PM (zUs0s)

145 "This is about using for bathrooms for other than their intended purpose"

52 year old "man." 14 year old school girl. They're all for it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 07:48 PM (9ym/8)

146 When I use a public restroom, I would prefer it not look like one of zombie's photo essays from a San Francisco fetish parade.

Posted by: wooga at April 14, 2016 07:48 PM (1qk2d)

147 Biology was soo yesterday.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 14, 2016 07:48 PM (xInes)

148 You do know why woman don't fart, don't you?
Never shut their mouths long enough to build up any pressure.
- ducks -

Posted by: RI Red at April 14, 2016 07:48 PM (TTDna)

149 Why are there tall and short urinals, since they are all floor drained?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (rwI+c)

150 When I use a public restroom, I would prefer it not look like one of zombie's photo essays from a San Francisco fetish parade.
***
That's rather the point, isn't it?

The left does not want to leave you alone to live the way you want...they want you to be forced to participate with them.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (pibXr)

151 McSorley's Ale House in NYC did not allow women until the early 1970s or so. Hence, they only had a Men's Room. Once the females were allowed in, they used to keep a bouncer by the Men's Room and would alternate letting guys and girls in. They had one stall, and three or four humongous urinals which were big enough to serve as a sarcophagus for me.

This went on for many years because I remember being there for the Miracle on Ice which I think was 1980? Anyway, they have since added a Ladies Room.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (E6RIJ)

152 Stand on the edges of the toilet, and hope your feet
don't slip. Japanese toilets are build set into the ground presuming
this technique. They claim its better, but I think its just a cultural
thing they prefer and search for reasons its better than filthy
foreigners.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:47 PM (39g3+)

Very familiar with those. I lived in Asia for 5 years.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (v0/PR)

153 Euro bathrooms besides having solid walls and no cracks, have 24/7 attendants.

Other than the French outdoor ones. With those you just let fly in public.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (39g3+)

154 I recall that Phyllis Schlafly was predicting, way back in the 70's, that if the ERA was passed, that it would lead to mandatory unisex bathrooms, and everybody laughed at her and said "oh that could never ever happen"...

well, we didn't get the ERA but we got mandatory unisex bathrooms anyway

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (WKc9e)

155 most of the time nobody will even notice since they'll be doing their business in a stall.


I was next to man dressed in woman's clothing at the grocery store the other day. Trust me, people noticed him. I was hoping my kids wouldn't so I wouldn't have to explain it to them. Thankfully, they did not.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (GgxVX)

156 Washington St is already having "Issues" with men declaring that they are women, to access the ladies room.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (xInes)

157 "Why are there tall and short urinals, since they are all floor drained?"

If you got a big ween.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (9ym/8)

158
I still can't get over Bern Sanders is going to the Vatican, by invitation, to talk about the weather and equality.

Might as well call him Cardinal Bernie Sanders from now on because Sanders is as much of a cardinal as Francis is a pope.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (/MtvT)

159 Oh wait, it's the lefty/SJW crowd pushing this, of course they'll be actively creating a disturbance.

Has there ever been a single tranny ever born that wasn't massively about being seen, acknowledged, and making a huge scene everywhere they go?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (39g3+)

160 I though it was the smelly fart military blog.

Posted by: freaked at April 14, 2016 07:50 PM (BO/km)

161 If you got a big ween.

or a really high arc.

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at April 14, 2016 07:51 PM (rwI+c)

162 I am wondering what (female I assume) person gets sued because she/he objected?

Posted by: FCF at April 14, 2016 07:51 PM (kejii)

163 The left does not want to leave you alone to live the way you want...they want you to be forced to participate with them.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (pibXr) fnord (pibXr)


They can be allowed to live in our world, they will not *allow* us to live in their world.

Because dissent is enough to keep them out of secular Heaven.

At first, they will claim that's not so, but as The Daemon Math continues to spoil their plans, they will blame the NonBelievers for that failure.

And then there are purges, and camps, and mass graves, whether it's in France or Russia or China or Korea or....

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 07:52 PM (wB8Tg)

164 I recall that Phyllis Schlafly was predicting, way back in the 70's, that if the ERA was passed, that it would lead to mandatory unisex bathrooms, and everybody laughed at her and said "oh that could never ever happen"...

well, we didn't get the ERA but we got mandatory unisex bathrooms anyway
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:49 PM (WKc9e)



Speaking of Phyllis, she endorsed Trump, and now her daughter and son-in-law are trying to kick her out of her Eagle Forum organization.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:52 PM (uURQL)

165 The adroit, proper and judiciously rapid application of an old fashioned Police Sap would go miles towards the cessation of this madness.

Ladies could carry a four ounce weighted, seven inch sap in their purse, and hardly notice it's there.

But Chester the Molester would certainly observe it's efficacy after some intrepid 'Ette hammered him with her sap.

All kinds of body-points are really good sap targets, too. Most all of 'em, when well-struck, will leave the target quivering, collapsed in a puddle of his own piss.

Damn shame they're not legal for non law enforcement here in Texas. Great means of "less lethal" use of force.

Of course, one should always have adequate means to employ lethal force, and immediately so, if needed.

And, is there anything hotter than a well armed, and properly skilled 'Ette? Yowzer!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 14, 2016 07:52 PM (McRlu)

166
The Left wakes up every single day and thinks of new ways to ruin lives and society. That's what they do.



Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:53 PM (/MtvT)

167 Boco GOP vacancy committee. We got six positions to fill with sacrificial lambs. SD17 for state Senate; HD10, 11, and 12 for state House. Also a county commish spot and some judicial thingy

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 14, 2016 07:54 PM (XN01O)

168 This is also about the new religion forcing out the old by destroying it and pursuing heretics. As much as people talk about a diverse society with pluralism, only one religion can and will ever be dominant. That is the nature of man and culture, since one's beliefs about the world, meaning, and morality are what define a shared culture.

The old one was Christianity, even if people weren't Christians. That's what structured America's worldview and culture.

Now its naturalistic, secular humanistic progressivism. And there can only be one.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:54 PM (39g3+)

169 115 Alyssa Milano got fat. Wow

You got it wrong. That's Yasmine Bleeth, who ate Alyssa Milano
Posted by: wooga at April 14, 2016 07:44 PM (1qk2d)

nope Alyssa Milano was doing an ad for Adkins diet and food. She looks like a very cute middle-aged waitress with jiggly arms

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:54 PM (zOTsN)

170 I am wondering what (female I assume) person gets sued because she/he objected?

Already happened at Planet Fitness. A woman complained about a man in the locker room, and SHE was the one whose membership was dropped.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 07:54 PM (GgxVX)

171 RM for god's sake you have to bring everything back to your idol Trump don't you

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:55 PM (WKc9e)

172 I would add to this excellent point why can Bank of America deny gun companies loans and account services? Because no one calls them on it.

My current goal is to strike it rich. And then get as far away from society as I can.

Posted by: Five O'clock Charlie at April 14, 2016 07:55 PM (J3UIw)

173 Already happened at Planet Fitness. A woman complained about a man in the locker room, and SHE was the one whose membership was dropped.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 07:54 PM (GgxVX) fnord (GgxVX)


You mean Planet Sex Harassment?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (wB8Tg)

174 For those of you in California, I am pleasantly surprised that the state is still allowing individuals with property to be buried on the ranches instead of being forced to be buried in an approved cemetery.

Was catching up on news and just read an article regarding Merle Haggard's funeral. He was buried in a private ceremony presided over by Marty Stuart on his ranch near Bakersfield.
Sheila Varian, a very famous Arabian horse breeder was buried a few weeks ago on her lovely ranch, which is now under the protections of the California Rangeland Trust.
I know Merle was looking to have his ranch preserved also.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (1rAS0)

175
Fapping machine. Perfect gift for the moron in your life

https://goo.gl/rEsOVF

Oddly, it appears to be cat operated. ]

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (iQIUe)

176
Because dissent is enough to keep them out of secular Heaven.


Yeah pretty much. The only thing preventing a utopian paradise here are those horrible people who disagree and fight their ideas. If only they were dead in camps to change their minds, everything would be perfect, honest! No failure is due to weaknesses in their ideology or impossibilities of their dreams. Its always the fault of the counter-revolutionary, the dissenter.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (39g3+)

177 This is tangentially related to the lede.

The parents of the Sandy Hook dead kids have sued the manufacturers and sellers of the guns that were used. But Congress passed Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act back in 2005 to prohibit these kinds of lawsuits so long as the gun was lawfully sold. Bernie voted Yea and Hillary voted Nea, which is why Hillary has been beating up Bernie about it.

In one sense this law just codifies common law and common sense that so long as you comply with any applicable laws (like background checks) you shouldn't be liable for making or selling a product that is later used criminally, whether it's a knife, a car, a baseball bat or a gun. But gun makers and sellers needed the law so that they could get spurious suits dismissed quickly without having to pay for a legal defense through trial. When the law got passed there was a legitimate concern that leftist plaintiffs' lawyers were intent on putting the industry out of business.

Despite the clear wording of the statute, a Connecticut State judge is letting this case go forward rather than dismissing it as she should (with sanctions against the plaintiffs).

The connection to the lede is that our laws and their administration mean whatever leftists want them to mean.

"When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master -- that's all."

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (r1fLd)

178 So if turns out that my hill to die on is public restrooms that exclude fake, mentally ill men.

Im a mild germaphobe so I avoid public restrooms already. No way I'm letting this happen and allowing a bunch of confused men and perverts in to harrass women and little girls or so worse

Posted by: L, Elle at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (Gv8zm)

179 RM for god's sake you have to bring everything back to your idol Trump don't you
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:55 PM (WKc9e)

****

My irony meter just blew a fetzer valve.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 14, 2016 07:57 PM (aBI1l)

180 >>>Already happened at Planet Fitness.

They might as well put me on the list....

Posted by: FCF at April 14, 2016 07:57 PM (kejii)

181 You mean Planet Sex Harassment?

I actually feel weaker watching their commercials. What a bunch of wimps.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 07:57 PM (GgxVX)

182 She looks like a very cute middle-aged waitress with jiggly arms

She looks darn good to me, still

She's not exactly conservative, but is very pro-military. Probably because men in uniform, and all that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:58 PM (39g3+)

183 "Has there ever been a single tranny ever born that wasn't massively about being seen, acknowledged, and making a huge scene everywhere they go?"

No. The disorder is predicated on narcissism.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 14, 2016 07:58 PM (eHpnh)

184
Yep, it's a Wanking Macine AND a cat toy.

So, a perfect gift for the moron and the pussy in your life.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 07:58 PM (iQIUe)

185 Another thought:

There are certainly a small number of people out there who are genuinely transgender - i.e., their brain chemistry does not match the genitalia they were born with. Life sucks for them, especially since it's apparently a hate crime to suggest that it's their brain chemistry that's "wrong" rather than their genitals.

Meanwhile, the leftist SJW crowd is essentially claiming that everyone going through a phase of following androgynous fashion trends is transgender and is just as oppressed as the above people.

It's like white kids dressing in hip hop clothes and claiming they're just as oppressed as ghetto blacks.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at April 14, 2016 07:58 PM (zUs0s)

186 121 Are we sure there is nothing with these con-trails? Because, I swear to God, people are becoming more brain-dead and feeble-minded right before my eyes.
Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 07:39 PM (CFc5L)


Spray them with vinegar and see if they get smarter. Even if they don't, hey, free entertainment.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2016 07:59 PM (iMxBJ)

187
Yeah, that was a pretty casual, and relevant in that context, mention of Trump.

Someone needs to count to diez.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:59 PM (/MtvT)

188 What's wrong with Planet Fitness?

Okay the unisex changing rooms is stupid. Of course.

Otherwise though they seem pretty good, to me at least

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:59 PM (WKc9e)

189 Someone should just say boycotting north carolina is Exactly What The Right Wingers Would Want(TM)

Posted by: mst3k at April 14, 2016 08:00 PM (2MRi7)

190 183 The disorder is predicated on narcissism.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 14, 2016 07:58 PM (eHpnh)


And, often, the sexual charge of dressing up as the opposite sex. But that must not be mentioned.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2016 08:00 PM (iMxBJ)

191 Despite the clear wording of the statute, a Connecticut State judge is letting this case go forward rather than dismissing it as she should

The answer to this of course is for a higher court to vacate any outcome of the trial and disbar the judge. Impeachment hearings should already have started.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:00 PM (39g3+)

192 You don't buy beer .. you merely lease it.

Posted by: Huggy Bear at April 14, 2016 08:01 PM (e8kgV)

193 The genetic categorization is too complicated and too hard to enforce. I propose a much simpler rule. One bathroom is the 'has a penis' bathroom, and the other is the 'no penis' bathroom. If somebody has gone to the trouble of having his/xer penis removed I'm okay with him/xer using the no penis bathroom.
When somebody says 'but I identify as a woman!'. We can respond by saying, 'That's fine, but irrelevant. Everybody with a penis uses that bathroom, regardless of gender. You aren't uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with your fellow penis-Americans, are you?'

Posted by: Bill at April 14, 2016 08:01 PM (Wg3o4)

194 U.S. federal, state and local government agencies rank in last place in cyber security when compared against 17 major private industries, including transportation, retail and healthcare, according to a new report released Thursday.

The analysis, from venture-backed security risk benchmarking startup SecurityScorecard, measured the relative security health of government and industries across 10 categories, including vulnerability to malware infections, exposure rates of passwords and susceptibility to social engineering, such as an employee using corporate account information on a public social network.

Educations, telecommunications and pharmaceutical industries also ranked low, the report found. Information services, construction, food and technology were among the top performers.

Government agencies have struggled for years to keep pace with malicious hackers and insider threats, a challenge that came into focus after it was disclosed last year that more than 21 million individuals had their sensitive data pilfered during a breach at the Office of Personnel Management.

Posted by: Huggy Bear at April 14, 2016 08:02 PM (e8kgV)

195 I think they have bad brain chemistry not in that they were born the wrong sex from their brain, but that they are mentally ill with a sever case of body dismorphia

the inmates are running the asylum

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 08:02 PM (zOTsN)

196 Keith Olbermann was in an apartment despute with Trump.

Reminds me of this SNL skit. This is the greatest thing Ben Affleck has ever done.
http://tinyurl.com/jzr8ndh

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 14, 2016 08:02 PM (VdICR)

197 Despite the clear wording of the statute, a Connecticut State judge
is letting this case go forward rather than dismissing it as she should



the decision today was on jurisdiction, not on the merits of the case, that is all.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:02 PM (WKc9e)

198 Otherwise though they seem pretty good, to me at least

They predicate their whole marketing strategies on the premise that all those "other gyms" are just full of meat heads and gym rats who are judging you when you walk in. IIRC, they don't have free weights either.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 08:03 PM (GgxVX)

199 "She looks darn good to me, still
"


Wait, need a pic of this gal.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:03 PM (9ym/8)

200 Yeah pretty much.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (39g3+) fnord (39g3+)


It's *exactly*. In fact, when confronted, generally in the middle of the denial they'll say "but we can only solve these problems if everyone works together," and then choke when you ask them what they're willing to do when people *don't* work together.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 08:04 PM (wB8Tg)

201 They predicate their whole marketing strategies on
the premise that all those "other gyms" are just full of meat heads and
gym rats who are judging you when you walk in. IIRC, they don't have
free weights either.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 08:03 PM (GgxVX)

Yeah, they are a gym for non-meat-heads, you know, like the rest of us
The one near me does have free weights

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:04 PM (WKc9e)

202 142 Stand on the edges of the toilet, and hope your feet don't slip. Japanese toilets are build set into the ground presuming this technique. They claim its better, but I think its just a cultural thing they prefer and search for reasons its better than filthy foreigners.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 07:47 PM (39g3+)


You are positioned better for #2 if you're squatting. Straighter path, probably. But I had to use one of those toilets for that purpose, in, well, an urgent situation without options, and I'll be darned if I know how they make really sure that the pants stay unaffected in all cases. My pants escaped unscathed, but it felt like a near thing.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2016 08:04 PM (iMxBJ)

203 What's wrong with Planet Fitness?

Okay the unisex changing rooms is stupid. Of course.

Otherwise though they seem pretty good, to me at least
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:59 PM (WKc9e)

IIRC if you work out hard enough where you grunt at all, they get all over your case about it.

Fitness centers for sissies.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:05 PM (heN73)

204 What's wrong with Planet Fitness?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:59 PM (WKc9e) fnord (WKc9e)


It's the "revoking the membership of the woman who complained about the man in the ladies' shower room" part.

That's not a silly policy, that's aggressively punishing Kulaks.

The goal is to eliminate "safe spaces" for dissent.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 08:05 PM (wB8Tg)

205 100
Chicago Cubs fans-- who got tired of the long wait lines for the men's johns during last year's opening at Wrigley-- so they peed in their empty beer cups.
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 14, 2016 07:33 PM (3C9q2)


I don't know what the bathrooms are like at Wrigley, but when I was a kid I saw a few games at Philadelphia's old Connie Mack Stadium (formerly Shibe Park), which predated Wrigley by a few years.

The men's room didn't have urinals. They had great big troughs, like bathtubs, where about 20 men could line up and go. I've never seen anything like that.

It was...unsettling.

Posted by: rickl at April 14, 2016 08:05 PM (sdi6R)

206 "the decision today was on jurisdiction, not on the merits of the case, that is all."

Law, written, is dead chem. Get with the times.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:06 PM (9ym/8)

207 if you work out hard enough where you grunt at all, they get all over your case about it.

Really? LOL. What happens if you're qrunting while if you're straining in the bathroom?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 08:06 PM (w4NZ8)

208 What's wrong with Planet Fitness?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:59 PM (WKc9e) fnord (WKc9e)

The horrendous colors they paint the outside and inside of the facility. Looks like a couple of two year olds threw up their popcicles.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 08:07 PM (1rAS0)

209 I don't know what the bathrooms are like at Wrigley, but when I was a
kid I saw a few games at Philadelphia's old Connie Mack Stadium
(formerly Shibe Park), which predated Wrigley by a few years.



The men's room didn't have urinals. They had great big troughs,
like bathtubs, where about 20 men could line up and go. I've never seen
anything like that.


The stadium at the University of Southern Mississippi, where I got my grad degree, had troughs too, IIRC, though not as large as bathtubs.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 08:07 PM (bZ7mE)

210 OT: Teh Cruz is doing a town hall with Chuck Todd now.

I've been supporting Cruz but not liking him. I'm liking this Cruz.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 08:08 PM (1xUj/)

211 Fitness centers for sissies.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:05 PM (heN73)

eh that is overstating it.
It is basically a "safe space" for people who need to exercise but who otherwise loathe going to a gym. Yeah I said it.

A good 60% or so of their workout floor are various cardio machines, 25-30% or so are weight machines, and the rest is the free-weight area. It isn't for the hardcore bodybuilder. They have their gyms, we have our gyms.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:08 PM (WKc9e)

212 Fenny, a good church girl like you?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:08 PM (9ym/8)

213 They had great big troughs, like bathtubs, where about 20 men could line up and go. I've never seen anything like that.

Lot of big city clubs and bars used to have those, maybe still do. It is pretty efficient if a bit stinky and awkward. I guess after 10 jello shots it isn't so bad though.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:09 PM (39g3+)

214 193 The genetic categorization is too complicated and too hard to enforce. I propose a much simpler rule. One bathroom is the 'has a penis' bathroom, and the other is the 'no penis' bathroom. If somebody has gone to the trouble of having his/xer penis removed I'm okay with him/xer using the no penis bathroom.
When somebody says 'but I identify as a woman!'. We can respond by saying, 'That's fine, but irrelevant. Everybody with a penis uses that bathroom, regardless of gender. You aren't uncomfortable sharing a bathroom with your fellow penis-Americans, are you?'
Posted by: Bill at April 14, 2016 08:01 PM (Wg3o4)


This works. Replace "M" and "F" on the door with "P" and "V" and we're done. Only remaining problem is explaining to foreigners how our society got so messed-up that we had to do that.

Posted by: Splunge at April 14, 2016 08:09 PM (iMxBJ)

215 RM for god's sake you have to bring everything back to your idol Trump don't you
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 07:55 PM (WKc9e)



Was more curious how you feel about her now, given the endorsement and the organizational coup.

Does her endorsement change your view of Trump given her prescience on the ERA? Or does it destroy her credibility to you?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 08:09 PM (uURQL)

216
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 08:05 PM (wB8Tg)

Yeah that is horrible, I agree. But I can't really see Planet Fitness having any more of a backbone on this issue than, say, 24-hour Fitness or Anytime Fitness or any of the other corporate gyms.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:09 PM (WKc9e)

217 The evening topics here have gone down the toilet.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:09 PM (miXPX)

218 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:08 PM (9ym/

Well at least I don't go in the man's bathroom if I can possibly avoid it

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 08:10 PM (w4NZ8)

219 "They had great big troughs, like bathtubs, where about 20 men could line up and go. I've never seen anything like that. "

Oh, the trough. Just walk up, flop it out, and relief. Times were better then.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:10 PM (9ym/8)

220 I've stood guard for a few women using men's rooms in my lifetime

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:11 PM (miXPX)

221 For perspective, approximately 1.5% of US population is gay, 1% bi-sexual.
Trans? 1 in 35,000, 0.003%.
From the Williams Institute at UCLA Law, gay-friendly but rigorous academics.

Posted by: Motionview at April 14, 2016 08:11 PM (hqjPT)

222 That is one thing I've always envied about men. They can pee in a public toilet and not have to worry about germs.

Also, big envy has always been that men can go swimming on the spot. Just throw on a pair of shorts or swim trunks.
Women on the other hand....every little thing has to be dealt with and considered.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 08:11 PM (CFc5L)

223 Yeah, they are a gym for non-meat-heads, you know, like the rest of us

All those other places are so intimidating what with all the people dedicated to fitness. Come join our non-threatening, no grunting environment, and if there is a dude in the ladies room, well, at least he can't lift more than you. The only edge is the reciprocal membership at other facilities and being open 24/7.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 08:12 PM (GgxVX)

224 There's no "technical" or legal fix when someone is simply taking every opportunity to force you to obey them and abandon your own standards for theirs.

The hard part is getting more than 1.5% of the population to be aware of the actual nature of the conflict.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 08:12 PM (wB8Tg)

225 There are so many great body weight home workouts, I'm not sure why anyone who hates going to gyms pays to go to one.


Throw in a few purchased free weights/kettlebells and you have everything you need to workout at home.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:13 PM (v0/PR)

226 "Well at least I don't go in the man's bathroom if I can possibly avoid it"


And I wouldn't expect you to, You are a classy gal. Now people like L'elle or such I don't know.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:13 PM (9ym/8)

227 Penn State's Beaver Stadium had troughs (don't know if they still do).

Guys aren't supposed to be skeeved out by that, it's only pissing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 08:13 PM (1xUj/)

228 "Now people like L'elle or such I don't know."

FLAME WAR!!

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 14, 2016 08:14 PM (eHpnh)

229 Perverts everywhere!

Posted by: wooga at April 14, 2016 08:14 PM (1qk2d)

230 Sexual assault victims speak out in Washington state about the state's law passed in Jan. that mandates transgender bathrooms.

The YMCA was instrumental in getting the law passed. A "Christian" organization.

http://tinyurl.com/jxsmsfd

Posted by: Jen the original at April 14, 2016 08:14 PM (1rAS0)

231 Really? LOL. What happens if you're qrunting while if you're straining in the bathroom?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 08:06 PM (w4NZ

So you are married.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:14 PM (heN73)

232 Was more curious how you feel about her now, given the endorsement and the organizational coup.



Does her endorsement change your view of Trump given her prescience on the ERA? Or does it destroy her credibility to you?


It does neither. You have to understand that I am a scientist. I can recognize the truthfulness of a statement without having to agree with every personality detail of the person making the statement. Lots of scientists were outright Communists yet they still did very good science. I can reject a person's beliefs in one area while still acknowledge the correctness of their work in others.


And P.S. I had a sinking feeling that someone would bring up Schlafly's endorsement of Trump with some attempt to reignite the Trump-Cruz wars, good job for confirming my fears

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:15 PM (WKc9e)

233 Troughs are preferable to the normal post-concert scene of "fat drunks pissing in the sink"

I'd take Chaz Bono at a urinal any day over that nastiness.

Posted by: wooga at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (1qk2d)

234 I don't think I've seen a trough in a long time, but as a kid the first time I thought "this is awesome "

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (miXPX)

235 Rural Africa has long rooms and short rooms--clay floors with a hole. Bring your own paper.

Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (4rzL1)

236 The Y ceased to be Christian a long time ago. It's simply a letter in the acronym.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (w4NZ8)

237 I've stood guard for a few women using men's rooms in my lifetime
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:11 PM (miXPX)

****

I have "politely" removed people who have tried to do this when I needed to go. If the chicks failed to plan ahead, it is their problem with regard to what they see and hear in the pisser.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (aBI1l)

238 To be honest, chemjeff, I'm just happy you are working out. Keeps you young, unless you are me. I just want to walk upright with the homo sapiens again. This herniated disc crap is for the birds.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (GgxVX)

239 "FLAME WAR!!"

Did she light a match?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (9ym/8)

240 Look at how ABC news words the NC issue on it's website:

"The Latest on reaction to a North Carolina law that limits protection for lesbians, gays and transgender people,"

"because of a state law that limits protection for lesbians, gays and transgender people."

Just pathetic.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:16 PM (heN73)

241 I haven't hit a gym since college but how hard are you really working out if you don't grunt or make any sound?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:17 PM (39g3+)

242 "They had great big troughs, like bathtubs, where about 20 men could line up and go. I've never seen anything like that. "

That's what the men's rooms in Wrigley are like-- troughs rather than stalls. Although Cubs management installed a few porta-potties last year for the dudes after the Opening Day "incident." No word about whether the porta-potties are transgender-friendly.

Posted by: Basement Cat at April 14, 2016 08:17 PM (3C9q2)

243 There are so many great body weight home workouts, I'm not sure why anyone who hates going to gyms pays to go to one.

Because it's costing you money to renege on your New Year's Resolution and not go. It is a form of accountability.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:17 PM (WKc9e)

244 Hopefully the increasing magnitude, prevalence, and frequency of this nonsense will disabuse people of the soilly notion that SJWs are at the height of their power or are somehow failing.


What we're seeing now is what happens when the long march is over.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 14, 2016 08:18 PM (Wckf4)

245 limits protection for lesbians, gays

In what possible way?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:19 PM (39g3+)

246 Because it's costing you money to renege on your New Year's Resolution and not go. It is a form of accountability.


Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:17 PM (WKc9e)

Huh? How is it costing you money to not go?

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:19 PM (v0/PR)

247 *just hanging out to see who I pissed off*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 14, 2016 08:20 PM (9ym/8)

248 Huh? How is it costing you money to not go?

You'd be paying for something you aren't using.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 08:20 PM (GgxVX)

249 But the pretending ends when it encroaches on other people's privacy and social traditions. Period. End of discussion.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 07:13 PM[/i

De Nile! Boss! De Nile!!

Posted by: Tattoo at April 14, 2016 08:20 PM (sOhww)

250 Huh? How is it costing you money to not go?
Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:19 PM (v0/PR)


You're paying for the gym membership. Motivation to get your money's worth.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 08:20 PM (uURQL)

251 241
I haven't hit a gym since college but how hard are you really working out if you don't grunt or make any sound?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:17 PM (39g3+)

PF *isn't* for that type of person. It is a beginner's gym, for people to start at as they work their way up to a workout where they have to grunt when they work out.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:21 PM (WKc9e)

252 You'd be paying for something you aren't using.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 08:20 PM (GgxVX)

Well of course I'm not advocating that! Cancel the membership.


Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:21 PM (v0/PR)

253 I expected this to be another post about Ace's troubled trousers.

Posted by: Rbastid at April 14, 2016 08:22 PM (SSvAG)

254 I have to say I'm a little amused that the toilet thread has gone theological.

We're a diverse set. Cheers, Horde.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 07:44 PM (uURQL)


Holy Shit!

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:22 PM (s5o+q)

255 "What we're seeing now is what happens when the long march is over."

I'm afraid you're right. I don't see a counter to it other than violence. I hope I'm wrong about that.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 14, 2016 08:22 PM (eHpnh)

256 It is a beginner's gym, for people to start at as they work their way up to a workout where they have to grunt when they work out.

But if its so easy you make no noise, how much actual benefit are you actually getting? A "glow" and a selfie to show off on Facebook? Bragging rights about the 30 seconds you spent on the treadmill texting?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:22 PM (39g3+)

257
Well of course I'm not advocating that! Cancel the membership.




Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:21 PM (v0/PR)

but then they wouldn't work out at all.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:23 PM (WKc9e)

258 I seriously want to know how saying dudes can't go into the lady's room somehow weakens protections for homosexuals. Can anyone explain this?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:23 PM (39g3+)

259 Fapping machine. Perfect gift for the moron in your life
https://goo.gl/rEsOVF
Oddly, it appears to be cat operated. ]
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 14, 2016 07:56 PM (iQIUe)


"JAAANE! How do I stop this crazy thing?"

Posted by: George Jetson at April 14, 2016 08:24 PM (JJ5/6)

260 limits protection for lesbians, gays

In what possible way?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:19 PM (39g3+)

I'm sure it doesn't, but ABC scum be ABC scum.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:24 PM (heN73)

261 Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:15 PM (WKc9e)

Thanks for the answer.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 14, 2016 08:25 PM (uURQL)

262 If only they could marry...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 14, 2016 08:25 PM (5csB/)

263 First wave of 10,000 Rapefugees coming to the US this week as Obama feels the need to speed up process. Wants them all here within three months (as opposed to the two years he said it would take.)

Great. Just great. Civilizational suicide.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 14, 2016 08:25 PM (E6RIJ)

264 This thread is not so commode-ious that it can't use more cowbell.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 14, 2016 08:25 PM (sOhww)

265 Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:15 PM

OK, but if you invoke math.....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at April 14, 2016 08:25 PM (rxjJk)

266 There's a local story here in St. Paul about some parents that are suing the school district because they feel they didn't do enough to accommodate their son who now "self identifies" as a girl (it's the actual term they are using) The school had meetings, spoke with the kids, had special books to explain why Billy is now Susie etc. St. Paul and Minneapolis are the fucking liberal boil on the state but. Even that apparently wasn't good enough. The kicker. The kid is FIVE YEARS OLD!!!!!! Kids at that age can't decide between a PB&J or a ham and cheese. Yet this kid, all on his own decided that he's a girl. Yea, sure. What a bunch of unfettered bullshit! When do the rights of everyone else matter?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 14, 2016 08:26 PM (btH0m)

267 258 I seriously want to know how saying dudes can't go into the lady's room somehow weakens protections for homosexuals. Can anyone explain this?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:23 PM (39g3+)

Evidently, protection of the genders is a zero sum game.
If women and girls are protected from male predators that means homosexuals are at risk of not being able to to to -- I don't know?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 08:27 PM (nbrY/)

268 But if its so easy you make no noise, how much
actual benefit are you actually getting? A "glow" and a selfie to show
off on Facebook? Bragging rights about the 30 seconds you spent on the
treadmill texting?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:22 PM (39g3+)

you are learning good habits and learning how to use the equipment and learning not to be afraid of it.
it is a *beginner's gym*.
I actually got a workout plan from one of hte trainers at Planet Fitness. her recommendation for me was:
15 minutes cardio
Do 15 reps on each of 4 instruments, on a light weight setting

15 more minutes of cardio
I am under no illusion that this workout won't actually build any muscle for me but it is getting me more comfortable with the gym.
this is just like when you are first learning to play an instrument, you first learn the easy songs before you learn the hard songs. there is little musical merit to playing "twinkle twinkle little star" but that is not the point.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:27 PM (WKc9e)

269 What we're seeing now is what happens when the long march is over.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 14, 2016 08:18 PM (Wckf4)


So . . . when the Long March is over, the Long Marcher is entitled to a good, long sit-down?

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:27 PM (s5o+q)

270 But if its so easy you make no noise, how much actual benefit are you actually getting? A "glow" and a selfie to show off on Facebook? Bragging rights about the 30 seconds you spent on the treadmill texting?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:22 PM (39g3+)

Get with the times man, it's all about FEELINGS.

I feel like I got a good workout, even though I didn't sweat or look up from my book, therefore I did. How you feel is all that matters.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:27 PM (heN73)

271 But... but... biological sex is just a social construct and the difference between a "penis" and "vagina" is just cosmentic and like the difference betwee someone tall and someone short and heterosexuality is just a social construct invented by Kyriarchs (those icky White cis-het ableist males) to oppress other people with because before White people showed up there was not such thing as gender and everyone lived in a socialist utopia of noble savages and everyone was queer and stuff!!1!

Posted by: Critical Cis-Het Studies Major (with a minor in Afrikan Liberation Studies) at April 14, 2016 08:28 PM (vBeA5)

272 The kid is FIVE YEARS OLD!!!!!! Kids at that age
can't decide between a PBJ or a ham and cheese. Yet this kid, all
on his own decided that he's a girl. Yea, sure. What a bunch of
unfettered bullshit! When do the rights of everyone else matter?

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 14, 2016 08:26 PM
~~~~~

Those parents should be locked up. Child abuse. Sick bastards.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 14, 2016 08:28 PM (E6RIJ)

273 I heard a young maybe 20 something male caller on a radio show say North Carolina was trying to deny people of their rights.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:28 PM (miXPX)

274 15 minutes cardio
Do 15 reps on each of 4 instruments, on a light weight setting

15 more minutes of cardio

Sheesh for people who actually work out, that's probably their warmup.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:28 PM (heN73)

275 The kid is FIVE YEARS OLD!!

I said it on another thread, but I wanted to be a boy at that age too because boys got to take their shirts off when it was hot outside. Thank the Lord, my parents were normal.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 08:28 PM (GgxVX)

276 I feel like I got a good workout, even though I didn't sweat or look up from my book, therefore I did. How you feel is all that matters.

Ahem!

Posted by: Your Waistline at April 14, 2016 08:29 PM (1xUj/)

277 There's a local story here in St. Paul about some parents that are suing the school district because they feel they didn't do enough to accommodate their son who now "self identifies" as a girl (it's the actual term they are using) The school had meetings, spoke with the kids, had special books to explain why Billy is now Susie etc. St. Paul and Minneapolis are the fucking liberal boil on the state but. Even that apparently wasn't good enough. The kicker. The kid is FIVE YEARS OLD!!!!!! Kids at that age can't decide between a PB&J or a ham and cheese. Yet this kid, all on his own decided that he's a girl. Yea, sure. What a bunch of unfettered bullshit! When do the rights of everyone else matter?
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 14, 2016 08:26 PM (btH0m)


In a sane world, the parents would be in trouble for suspected child abuse.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:29 PM (s5o+q)

278 Sheesh for people who actually work out, that's probably their warmup.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:28 PM (heN73)

Why are you so negative towards people who are just getting comfortable with the gym?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:29 PM (WKc9e)

279 Wouldn't it be cool if SJW's decided gravity is a social construct and started jumping off tall buildings to prove it?

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 14, 2016 08:29 PM (eHpnh)

280 Bow flex. Learn it. Know it. Live it.

That way I can ignore working out without ever leaving my home.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 14, 2016 08:30 PM (kTF2Z)

281 I seriously want to know how saying dudes can't go into the lady's room somehow weakens protections for homosexuals. Can anyone explain this?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:23 PM (39g3+) fnord (39g3+)


Because it's not, but if they *say* it is, they are signaling each other that you are Not Really Human and it's Okay To Hate You.

Kind of like how opposing a serial abuser of women is anti-woman.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 08:30 PM (wB8Tg)

282 Baldness and pot-bellies are social constructs.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 14, 2016 08:31 PM (eHpnh)

283 I've been musing about this kerfuffle about bathrooms and the demand that Christians bow to the heathen gods of progressivism or be forced out of business or jobs and Bill Nye fake science guy's desire for people who disagree with him to be jailed.
If all the wishes of the left comes to pass it would be the ultimate form of letting it burn.

If all those conservates get forced out of the marketplace surely the economy would absolutely collapse. Everybody would suffer, even the leftist imbeciles behind it all.

Just my few scattered and inarticulate thoughts.

Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 14, 2016 08:32 PM (4rzL1)

284 chemjeff, I'll give you some free trainer advice.....get off the machines. I don't care if you're using 5# free weights. You'll get more benefit OFF the machines than you will on them.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:32 PM (v0/PR)

285 The Left is so hell bent on "proving" that "trans" is a locked in biological fact that they are pushing kids to say they are trans based on the smallest "evidence", and then punish anyone, including the kid in question, if they dare suggest that maybe they might be normal after all. Even if this results in the kid offing themselves.

Posted by: The Cis-Hat at April 14, 2016 08:33 PM (vBeA5)

286 Why are you so negative towards people who are just getting comfortable with the gym?


Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:29 PM (WKc9e)

Call it what you want, but the fact is that's not much of a workout, and certainly nothing to brag about.

Get on that treadmill for an hour and crank the incline up to 7 or 8. Then go bench press enough where you're dripping sweat and need a spotter to finish the last couple. Now you're talking workout.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:34 PM (heN73)

287 17:17 Everyone is free to pretend whatever they please.

Not anymore. Reality, he is a knocking.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens



Oh, so Reality is male? PATRIARCHY!!!!!

Posted by: SJW Fembot at April 14, 2016 08:34 PM (kljiq)

288 I think that most kids at some point or another decide it would be neat to be a girl or a boy, based on their understanding of what that entails: they like how the bicycle is designed, or girls get to cut ahead in the ice cream line, or they just like the clothes.

That doesn't mean they are interested in a lifestyle choice or even understand what that entails. Its just one of those things kids do, like pretending to be a cat. It doesn't mean parents should endorse or pretend. Its a phase, they will change. If they don't, then its time for some mental health professionals.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:34 PM (39g3+)

289 IIRC, teh gheys said there would be no 'slippery slope'...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 14, 2016 08:34 PM (5csB/)

290 Why are you so negative towards people who are just getting comfortable with the gym?

Because that's what, a day's effort? A week? Do they have one-week memberships? There is literally zero health benefit to a workout with zero stress or difficulty.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:35 PM (39g3+)

291 Get on that treadmill for an hour and crank the
incline up to 7 or 8. Then go bench press enough where you're dripping
sweat and need a spotter to finish the last couple. Now you're talking
workout.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:34 PM (heN73)

Bad advice Blano....bad advice. NO ONE needs to spend an hour on a treadmill. It's a waste of time.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:35 PM (v0/PR)

292 Gary marriage and Gay "rights" are bakied into society now.

The entire "Trans" thing will soo be a Fait Accompli.

What comes after that?

Posted by: The Forbodding hat at April 14, 2016 08:35 PM (vBeA5)

293 @174-Jen- Thank you for the info. I had the pleasure of riding and showing with Shelia Varian when I lived in CA. She was the only Arab trainer to venture into the world of the Reined Cow Horse. I will always remember her.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 14, 2016 08:36 PM (sdCPO)

294 I've been to a number of large concerts where the lines to the bathrooms were very long, the ladies' rooms in particular. Sometimes the women would ask to use the men's room. We guys never had a problem with that, and always said yes. They were always treated with respect, and I never saw any untoward behavior.

Posted by: rickl at April 14, 2016 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

295 I said it on another thread, but I wanted to be a boy at that age too because boys got to take their shirts off when it was hot outside.

At that age, girls may as well too, its not like there's any difference.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:36 PM (39g3+)

296 Gary marriage = Gay marriage

Posted by: The Correcting Hat at April 14, 2016 08:37 PM (vBeA5)

297 285 The Left is so hell bent on "proving" that "trans" is a locked in biological fact that they are pushing kids to say they are trans based on the smallest "evidence", and then punish anyone, including the kid in question, if they dare suggest that maybe they might be normal after all. Even if this results in the kid offing themselves.


Last night at work, CBS Overnight News had this sob story about some girl (pretty asian kid) who found out she was "trans". I felt pity for her. She troubled and needed help. Instead, they encourage her emotional and mental issues and say its perfectly normal. This is child abuse and madness! It won't end well.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 14, 2016 08:37 PM (kljiq)

298 At that age, girls may as well too, its not like there's any difference.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:36 PM (39g3+)


I beg to differ.

Posted by: Hairy Reid at April 14, 2016 08:37 PM (vBeA5)

299 283 I've been musing about this kerfuffle about bathrooms and the demand that Christians bow to the heathen gods of progressivism or be forced out of business or jobs and Bill Nye fake science guy's desire for people who disagree with him to be jailed.

If all those conservates get forced out of the marketplace surely the economy would absolutely collapse. Everybody would suffer, even the leftist imbeciles behind it all.

Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 14, 2016 08:32 PM (4rzL1)


Unfortunately, by the time it's Robespierre's turn at the guillotine, us conservatives will be long gone.

But I agree that there will eventually be blowback, and it will be ugly.

Posted by: George Jetson at April 14, 2016 08:38 PM (JJ5/6)

300 Posted by: rickl at April 14, 2016 08:36 PM (sdi6R)

Happened the other night at the PFunk Show I was at.

Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 08:38 PM (xUVR8)

301 285 The Left is so hell bent on "proving" that "trans" is a locked in biological fact that they are pushing kids to say they are trans based on the smallest "evidence", and then punish anyone, including the kid in question, if they dare suggest that maybe they might be normal after all. Even if this results in the kid offing themselves.
Posted by: The Cis-Hat at April 14, 2016 08:33 PM (vBeA5)
***
Hey -Nature isn't normative, but our mental-illness of the week, and its mascots, are totes natural.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 08:38 PM (lutOX)

302 off, sock from the future.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2016 08:38 PM (JJ5/6)

303 What comes after that?

I think we all know, even the ones that pretend otherwise.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:39 PM (39g3+)

304 If you gotta go, you gotta go!

Actually, I don't really give two shits about who is doing their business in the stall next to me, but for those nasty sick fucks trolling toilets for victims, I see you, you will "bleed."

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 08:39 PM (+E2Y7)

305 Bad advice Blano....bad advice. NO ONE needs to spend an hour on a treadmill. It's a waste of time.


Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:35 PM (v0/PR)

It was just an example. My bad.

Here was my workout today, maybe this will help.

15 minutes on a bike to warm up. Sweating already. 10 minutes using light free weights to get my arms ready. My upper body workout then took nearly an hour. After that, a few sets of cable crossovers to work on my love handles. Then 15 more minutes on the bike just to chill out and slow down.

A good hard workout that left me quite tired but feeling good. And I'm 55 years old.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:39 PM (heN73)

306 Bad advice Blano....bad advice. NO ONE needs to spend an hour on a treadmill. It's a waste of time.
Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:35 PM (v0/PR)
----------
Actually, I'm rehabbing a knee injury and dropping some lbs. in the process, works great for me.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 08:39 PM (7TOkf)

307 What comes after that?

-
Name That Perversion!

I'll take bestiality for $200, Alex.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:40 PM (Nwg0u)

308 Even if this results in the kid offing themselves.

It was only because of h8ers like you that they killed themselves, with your triggering microaggressions!

Posted by: Leftist twit at April 14, 2016 08:40 PM (39g3+)

309
Call it what you want, but the fact is that's not much of a workout, and certainly nothing to brag about.



Get on that treadmill for an hour and crank the incline up to 7 or
8. Then go bench press enough where you're dripping sweat and need a
spotter to finish the last couple. Now you're talking workout.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:34 PM (heN73)

I KNOW it's "not much of a workout", I didn't claim otherwise. That ISN'T THE POINT. You are talking about people who feel like failures at the whole idea of fitness. They aren't going to turn up the treadmill to 7 or 8, they aren't even going to step on the treadmill in the first place, because they think "well what's the point, I'm just going to fail at this, just like I've failed every other time that I've tried". They are only going to *eventually* be able to get on a treadmill on the level-8 setting if they first experience some success at the level-1 setting and don't utterly and miserably fail at it. That is the whole point of the workout that I described. I don't believe that I will get fit and buff with that type of workout. I won't, I know that. The point of that is to learn the machines and to build good habits only so that *eventually* I'll be able to use the treadmill on the level-8 setting or that eventually I'll be able to benchpress something other than the bar weight.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:40 PM (WKc9e)

310 A story of a f-m trans individual who clearly wanted to be "male" due to childhood abuse. Any rational doctor would never have allowed her to mutilate herself.

Too late, she realized she was a mutilated monster, and had her self euthanized:

Euthanasia Comes To A Social Construct

http://tinyurl.com/jw8t4yn

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2016 08:40 PM (vBeA5)

311 292 Gary marriage and Gay "rights" are bakied into society now.

What's your problem, bud?

Posted by: Gary at April 14, 2016 08:41 PM (JJ5/6)

312 There is literally zero health benefit to a workout with zero stress or difficulty.

That's not the point.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:41 PM (WKc9e)

313 The entire "Trans" thing will soon be a Fait Accompli.

What comes after that?


Transitioning to a nonhuman species-- dude decides to become a woman, then gets tats on his face and has his nose and ears removed in order to celebrate "shedding his human skin" and "leaving his humanness behind."

http://tinyurl.com/hofkdr9

As other morons have said, you can't make this s--t up.

Posted by: Basement Cat at April 14, 2016 08:41 PM (3C9q2)

314 The COBs and Ace are on fire! Moron salute! ()*() And a little something for the VRV fund via PayPal as well.
Now about that platinum membership....

Posted by: Fewenuff at April 14, 2016 08:42 PM (T/sbU)

315 If all those conservates get forced out of the marketplace surely the economy would absolutely collapse. Everybody would suffer, even the leftist imbeciles behind it all.

Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 14, 2016 08:32 PM (4rzL1)

I think we should withdraw from the marketplace as much as possible and as much as possible only do business with each other. I intend to be writing about stuff like this soon (I keep saying that).

Conservatives should boycott, attack, do whatever against as much big business as possible. Unfortunately in most cases this may involve some lifestyle changes, and I'm not convinced few conservatives and/or Christians are willing to do so.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:42 PM (heN73)

316 Great. Just great. Civilizational suicide.

Not here. Here, they're just lighting the fuse.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 14, 2016 08:42 PM (y75rA)

317 What comes after that?



I think we all know, even the ones that pretend otherwise.


I'm guessing either pedophilia or polygamy.

Saw a bumpersticker the other day that said something like "ask me about polyamory."

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 08:43 PM (bZ7mE)

318 A friend of mine says he is a pre-operative trans-sexual lesbian... C-;<

Posted by: Fewenuff at April 14, 2016 08:43 PM (T/sbU)

319 I know it was wrong but the blind old lady tripping over the Roomba in Deadpool made me laugh out loud.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:44 PM (39g3+)

320 You are talking about people who feel like failures at the whole idea of fitness.

Don't worry, you're preaching to the choir too. I know how it feels.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:44 PM (heN73)

321
Don't worry, you're preaching to the choir too. I know how it feels.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:44 PM (heN73)

Then why are you belittling them?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:44 PM (WKc9e)

322 If all those conservatives get forced out of the
marketplace surely the economy would absolutely collapse.
Posted by: Northernlurker, muzungo at April 14, 2016 08:32 PM (4rzL1)

We're going to need more H1Bs.

Posted by: GOPe at April 14, 2016 08:45 PM (FohCt)

323 Actually, I'm rehabbing a knee injury and dropping some lbs. in the process, works great for me.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 08:39 PM (7TOkf)

Rehabbing a knee is a whole different paradigm.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:45 PM (v0/PR)

324
I'm guessing either pedophilia or polygamy.


Oh Polygamy is already in the works, its happening behind the scenes and being normalized in popular entertainment. That one will go through without really much of a fight or even notice. No, its the other one that is next.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:45 PM (39g3+)

325 After that, a few sets of cable crossovers to work on my love handles.


If you still have love handles you shouldn't be judgy about how other people work out.

Chemjeff seems to be easing into something. Part of the benefit is the habit of working out. Part is the muscle memory of how to do things.

Eventually you need a lot of effort to get into great shape, but you have to start with knowing how.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 08:45 PM (1xUj/)

326 Euthanasia Comes To A Social Construct

http://tinyurl.com/jw8t4yn
Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2016 08:40 PM (vBeA5)


Wow. That story is quite the sinkhole of progressive suck.

"I came that they may have death and have death more abundantly."

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2016 08:46 PM (JJ5/6)

327 Tami, the great thing about the machines for me is that it seems really hard to screw up and move the weights in the wrong direction. That is why I like using the weight machines.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:46 PM (WKc9e)

328
Eventually you need a lot of effort to get into great shape, but you have to start with knowing how.


You figure someone needs a year long membership to get that worked out in their brains?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:48 PM (39g3+)

329 Eventually you need a lot of effort to get into great shape, but you have to start with knowing how.

Thank you. Maybe it is because I teach chemistry and I see students every day in lab who act like they have two left thumbs and they don't seem to know what they are doing, and I have to encourage them to keep with it, that no one is born a great chemist, they have to learn the techniques and skills and the only way to do that is with practice. It is the same with fitness and exercise and anything in life really.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:48 PM (WKc9e)

330 'I think that most kids at some point or another decide it would be neat to be a girl or a boy.'

One time I wondered what it would be like to have some tits.

Posted by: freaked at April 14, 2016 08:48 PM (BO/km)

331 You figure someone needs a year long membership to get that worked out in their brains?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:48 PM (39g3+)

YES. More than that, actually.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:49 PM (WKc9e)

332 >>You figure someone needs a year long membership to get that worked out in their brains?


Repetition.

Posted by: Soren Kierkegaard at April 14, 2016 08:49 PM (xUVR8)

333 Every perversion will be made legal.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 08:49 PM (B48dK)

334 Women on the other hand....every little thing has to be dealt with and considered.
Posted by: washrivergal

Go on...

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 08:49 PM (e347P)

335 I'm guessing either pedophilia or polygamy.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 08:43 PM (bZ7mE)


And here.
We.
Go:

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2016 08:50 PM (JJ5/6)

336 Please give your best wishes and prayers for Sister of Vendette upon her job interview tomorrow.

Posted by: Vendette at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (i1gXO)

337 I've heard it said before here: A startling amount of our current politics consists of the kids who weren't cool in high school growing up and using the law to punish the ones who were (or who kept their heads down).

Posted by: joncelli at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (1FhAQ)

338 When will people realize that things are not wrong because they are illegal,they are illegal because they are wrong.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (B48dK)

339 I ask about the year since it takes a month for a normal human being to form a habit...

One time I wondered what it would be like to have some tits.

And that time was yesterday?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (39g3+)

340 I'm guessing either pedophilia or polygamy.

Saw a bumpersticker the other day that said something like "ask me about polyamory."

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 08:43 PM (bZ7mE)


I doubt that they'd push full pedophilia all at once. More likely they'll normalize ephebophilia nad hebephilia. It's pretty much already normalized between pubescent youths, and soon they will be normalizing it between women and girls, and then men and boys, and thereafter women and boys. Men and girls will be last and probably still verboten because cis-het males are still oppressors and stuff...

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (vBeA5)

341 I've got a bit of a moral dilemma. My adult daughter came over today and told me about a personal problem she is having and she told me not to tell Mrs. Wrecks, her mother. I'm a lot better at unconditional love than Mrs. Wrecks is. Mrs. Wrecks has been telling daughter for some time that if she does X, Y will happen. Well, she did X and Y happened. This is nothing criminal nor is her health or safety endangered. It's a pretty typical thing. I told daughter I wouldn't tell Mrs. Wrecks for a while but daughter needed to tell her soon. It's impossible to keep secret for long.

Should I tell Mrs. Wrecks?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)

342 Hey, AMC is contemplating letting shit eating 20 somethings use cell phones during movies. I wrote to the public relations director and gave him a piece of my mind

rnoonan "AT" amctheatres "dot" com

Posted by: Max Power at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (q177U)

343 Tami, the great thing about the machines for me is
that it seems really hard to screw up and move the weights in the wrong
direction. That is why I like using the weight machines.


Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:46 PM (WKc9e)

Well I'm not sure I agree with that statement but you do what you think you need to.

I'll shut up now.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (v0/PR)

344 333 Every perversion will be made legalmandatory.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 08:49 PM (B48dK)


Corrected.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (JJ5/6)

345 From the "If Only" Department, DuffelBlog edition:
GEN. MATTIS "NO BALLSED" INTO RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT

Retired Marine Gen. James Mattis was forced to announce his candidacy for president after repeated rumors of his possibly entering the race were met with comments of "No Balls" throughout social media platforms and online forums this week, sources confirmed.

Mattis, the former commander of Central Command, admits he grew complacent in his retirement and forgot how ruthless Marines could be when it came to a dare.


I drop by DuffelBlog when I need a quick chuckle, and don't have time to Read The Comments here. Or when I'm bored. Or, you know, whenever.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (s5o+q)

346
Trumps speaks.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (/MtvT)

347 A sad fact seems these trans people statistical have shorter lives by their own choosing than the general population.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (miXPX)

348 One time I wondered what it would be like to have some tits.

'And that time was yesterday?'

No no. Years ago. But then I met Mrs F and she has enough for both of us.

Posted by: freaked at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (BO/km)

349 Every perversion will be made legal.

Oh, more than legal. Socially acceptable and embraced. Not just lawfully allowed, but culturally endorsed. Homosexuals aren't just legally forced into all parts of society, they're treated as superior human beings who cannot be denied anything lest you be punished.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (39g3+)

350
Please say something different.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (/MtvT)

351 Chemjeff, hire a personal trainer to show you the ropes. It's not nearly as expensive as you think. Buddy of mine is a body builder and does that for extra cash. He also told me that most of them don't look down on beginners. They all started out the same.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 14, 2016 08:53 PM (kTF2Z)

352 If you still have love handles you shouldn't be judgy about how other people work out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 08:45 PM (1xUj/)

That was pretty piss poor. I'll be as judgy as I want. If you're doing better, let's hear it.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:53 PM (heN73)

353 Vendette, best of luck for your sister!

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:53 PM (WKc9e)

354 I've got a bit of a moral dilemma. My adult daughter came over today and told me about a personal problem she is having and she told me not to tell Mrs. Wrecks, her mother. I'm a lot better at unconditional love than Mrs. Wrecks is. Mrs. Wrecks has been telling daughter for some time that if she does X, Y will happen. Well, she did X and Y happened. This is nothing criminal nor is her health or safety endangered. It's a pretty typical thing. I told daughter I wouldn't tell Mrs. Wrecks for a while but daughter needed to tell her soon. It's impossible to keep secret for long.

Should I tell Mrs. Wrecks?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)


Well . . . how much do you want to stay married?

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:53 PM (s5o+q)

355 I doubt that they'd push full pedophilia all at once. More likely they'll normalize ephebophilia nad hebephilia.

Yeah, one stage at a time. Older teenagers are old enough to make their own minds up! How can you deny this to young teenagers! Puberty is not some magical transformation of self will and human rights!

and on and on...

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:54 PM (39g3+)

356 Should I tell Mrs. Wrecks?


No.

Daughter will value the loyalty and Mrs. Wrecks will grudgingly respect you for same.

You can go a little while without sex, right?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 08:54 PM (1xUj/)

357 Should I tell Mrs. Wrecks?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)


Is there a real compelling reason to break your daughter's confidence? If not, my advice is to not tell Mrs. Wrecks.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2016 08:54 PM (JJ5/6)

358 Should I tell Mrs. Wrecks?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)

No. You promised your adult daughter you wouldn't. And what the heck is it, I can't come up with anything.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 08:54 PM (CFc5L)

359 333 Every perversion will be made legal mandatory.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 08:54 PM (nbrY/)

360 I told daughter I wouldn't tell Mrs. Wrecks for a
while but daughter needed to tell her soon. It's impossible to keep
secret for long.



Should I tell Mrs. Wrecks?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)

Give your daughter a reasonable amount of time to tell Mrs. Wrecks herself. If not, then yeah, you should.

Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:55 PM (v0/PR)

361 I ask about the year since it takes a month for a normal human being to form a habit...

It takes a while to get over the revulsion and dread of going to the gym.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:55 PM (WKc9e)

362 Instead of the Stars Spangled Banner wouldn't a round of This Land for You and Me be more appropriate?

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:56 PM (miXPX)

363 Anderson Cooper wanted to wrestle Wolf Blitzer for the moderator's job but chickened out at the last minute because he's effete and gay.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 08:56 PM (+E2Y7)

364 Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 08:54 PM (nbrY/)

Did you ever look into that tshirt company?

If so, any thoughts?

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:56 PM (heN73)

365 When will people realize that things are not wrong because they are illegal,they are illegal because they are wrong.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (B48dK)



Lot of wisdom codified in that one sentence!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 14, 2016 08:56 PM (wYnyS)

366 Oh,for the Socialist debate, which I assume I'm the only one watching.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (miXPX)

367 Damnit Oregon, stop reading my mind!

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (nbrY/)

368 I suspect these "gay" and "transgender" <i>children</i> that are trotted out before the media from time to time these days are the prelude to the (inevitable) assault on age-of-consent laws...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (5csB/)

369 It takes a while to get over the revulsion and dread of going to the gym.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:55 PM (WKc9e)


Do you have a trainer and/or exercise buddy? Either (both, actually) will help out a LOT, if you can swing one, the other, or both.

I'm coming into this conversation late, sorry.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (s5o+q)

370 You can go a little while without sex, right?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 08:54 PM (1xUj/)

*****

Well, he did allude to the fact that he was married and all. Kind of a prerequisite.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (aBI1l)

371 Every perversion will be made legal.

Oh, more than legal. Socially acceptable and embraced. Not just lawfully allowed, but culturally endorsed. Homosexuals aren't just legally forced into all parts of society, they're treated as superior human beings who cannot be denied anything lest you be punished.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 08:52 PM (39g3+)


They are already teaching on colleges that tolerance and acceptance of homosexuals is homophobic, and the only way to not be homophobic is to not only cheer on homosexuals, but become their biggest fans and supporters. It's called the "Riddle Homophobia Scale"

Accepting Homosexuality is Homophobic

http://tinyurl.com/gtfubea

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (vBeA5)

372 Accidently put on some channel and Obama was doing the intro to the show.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (B48dK)

373 I'm going with the slim your mind and your ass will follow plan. So far, it's not working too well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:58 PM (Nwg0u)

374 filbert, well I kinda have a workout buddy, but he is only about as motivated as me, so.... it doesn't always work out

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:58 PM (WKc9e)

375 Every perversion will be made legal.

-
And every knee must bow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:59 PM (Nwg0u)

376 372
Accidently put on some channel and Obama was doing the intro to the show.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (B48dK)

my condolences
which show was this?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:59 PM (WKc9e)

377 Accidently put on some channel and Obama was doing the intro to the show.
Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 08:57 PM (B48dK)


Yeah, that's why I basically don't watch TV any more, except certain live sporting events. And I'm really careful about how I approach those. (I'd 'cut the cord' entirely but my better half vetoed the concept, sadly.)

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:59 PM (s5o+q)

378 Bernie will have you chopped up and fed to the pigs if you don't agree with his ideological, but more importantly, fiscal insanity.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:00 PM (+E2Y7)

379 371 Hey I guess I am not homophobic since I don't accept it.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:00 PM (B48dK)

380 Rigged economy seems to be the main talking point for socialists

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:00 PM (miXPX)

381 >>Accidently put on some chanel


That's how it starts.

Posted by: Bruce Jenner at April 14, 2016 09:00 PM (xUVR8)

382 If so, any thoughts?
Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:56 PM (heN73)

Oh, I've started to put a few things up on zazzle (which is kinda like cafepress)
Haven't sold anything yet. I think I get like a dollar if anyone buys a shirt or something.
There's a link on the right side of ny blog - the pic of the mug
(My blog is in my Inc)

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:01 PM (nbrY/)

383 380
Rigged economy seems to be the main talking point for socialists

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:00 PM (miXPX)


yeah, well it's not just the socialists who think the economy is rigged

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 09:01 PM (WKc9e)

384
Accepting Homosexuality is Homophobic


You will be made to care cheer

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:01 PM (39g3+)

385 Nic not inc

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:01 PM (nbrY/)

386 Hitlery's big gimmick, well every time I've seen her enter a crowd, is to point-smile-wave at a non-person, as if she's just spotted one of her best friends. Drives me nuts.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 09:01 PM (CFc5L)

387 I went to the movies this afternoon, and there were only four other people in the theater. It was nice. But I had the thought--am I allowed to shout "Fire!" in this situation?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:01 PM (/ciMI)

388 >>Rigged economy seems to be the main talking point for socialists


They can Rig it Better!

Posted by: garrett at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (xUVR8)

389 No. You promised your adult daughter you wouldn't. And what the heck is it, I can't come up with anything.

-
She was rude to her boss and got fired.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (Nwg0u)

390 A good hard workout that left me quite tired but feeling good. And I'm 55 years old.
Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 08:39 PM (heN73)
***
Just an aside, before I return to drinking and pondering the world my children will have to inhabit:

A hard workout has its benefits, but has its problems, too.

I worked around a crap-ton of TCM doctors, many of whom were MD's as well, and to a man - and a woman - they were of the opinion that heavy workouts were only for athletes, whose overall health they didn't think much of.

They preferred and recommended slow, gentle exercise, with a brisk walk being about the limit in terms of intensity. Weights, yes, but slowly, and with plenty of fluid motion.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (lutOX)

391 376 I think it was How The Universe Works on the Science channel.I changed it so fast I am not sure though.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:03 PM (B48dK)

392 There's a local story here in St. Paul about some parents that are suing the school district because they feel they didn't do enough to accommodate their son who now "self identifies" as a girl (it's the actual term they are using) The school had meetings, spoke with the kids, had special books to explain why Billy is now Susie etc. St. Paul and Minneapolis are the fucking liberal boil on the state but. Even that apparently wasn't good enough. The kicker. The kid is FIVE YEARS OLD!!!!!! Kids at that age can't decide between a PB&J or a ham and cheese. Yet this kid, all on his own decided that he's a girl. Yea, sure. What a bunch of unfettered bullshit! When do the rights of everyone else matter?
Posted by: Minnfidel at April 14, 2016 08:26 PM (btH0m)

In a sane world, the parents would be in trouble for suspected child abuse.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 08:29 PM

Well, that's the problem. Sane world is going the way of the dodo bird. I mean when I was 14 and my brother hung up the Farah Fawcett and Cheryl Tiegs poster in our room, I knew I liked the ladies! But this kid at 5 years old "self identifies" as a girl? If the kid decides he's a horse, should they have to give him a stall and some hay? WTF.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 14, 2016 09:03 PM (btH0m)

393 She was rude to her boss and got fired.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (Nwg0u)


This sounds like something Mrs. Wrecks is going to find out about soon enough, anyway, so this may not be a problem for you for long.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (JJ5/6)

394 381 LOL

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (B48dK)

395 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (Nwg0u)

Let your daughter tell your wife, in her own time.
It will be fine.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (nbrY/)

396 Bernie should have just said "No she's a f in criminal "

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (miXPX)

397 She was rude to her boss and got fired.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (Nwg0u)

She probably feels awful. So now I don't know, maybe let your wife know beforehand so she doesn't sound too freaked out about the situation. Yipes.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (CFc5L)

398 Accidently put on some channel and Obama was doing the intro to the show.

Well, that's certainly appropriate for a bathroom thread-- although TFG always makes me think of that ancient Roman facility called a vomitorium.

Posted by: Basement Cat at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (3C9q2)

399 Tell her to do a mea culpa."You were right mom,I screwed up.I learned a life lesson."

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (B48dK)

400 110 Might be charged with a salt if you use pepper spray
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 14, 2016 07:36 PM (hlMPp


----------------------------
In a just society you would be hunted for sport.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at April 14, 2016 09:04 PM (3Mimg)

401 Okay Blano. I just read your workout for today, above. What would you say to a person for whom spending even 15 minutes on a bike or treadmill or elliptical is a big accomplishment?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 09:05 PM (WKc9e)

402 I think it was How The Universe Works on the Science channel.


Posted by: steevy

I reached forth my hand and touched Adam, and that was the sixth day of my Presidency.

Posted by: Pres'nt Obama at April 14, 2016 09:05 PM (/ciMI)

403 Hillary's cream colored disasterpants are outfitted with an industrial strength credibility liner to prevent senior shart leakage for up to 3 hours.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:05 PM (+E2Y7)

404 She was rude to her boss and got fired

She won't hide that shit from Mom for long.

Dont' worry about it. Stay out. Play dumb if caught. They all think we're idiots anyway.

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 14, 2016 09:05 PM (zPc5p)

405 391
376 I think it was How The Universe Works on the Science channel.I changed it so fast I am not sure though.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:03 PM (B48dK)

Obama is doing intros on shows on the fkn SCIENCE CHANNEL???
ugh..............

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 09:06 PM (WKc9e)

406 These two are actually attacking eachother

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:06 PM (miXPX)

407 My thinking is that if your plumbing matches the picture ... you're in.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:06 PM (NCjTR)

408 I told daughter I wouldn't tell Mrs. Wrecks for a
while but daughter needed to tell her soon. It's impossible to keep
secret for long.

Should I tell Mrs. Wrecks?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)

Give your daughter a reasonable amount of time to tell Mrs. Wrecks herself. If not, then yeah, you should.
Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:55 PM (v0/PR)


I disagree. If an adult child ask you to keep a confidence, specifically with your spouse, you have the right to tell that child up front that you cannot keep secrets from your spouse, or you keep the secret.


You owe your adult child the expectation that you will keep your word.


You do NOT owe your spouse the right to be told everything you know. Even when it has to do with your adult children.


Trust with your children can be lost at any time, and the constant need to retain it is a lifelong challenge. Trust with our spouse is about honoring your marriage, being faithful to them. It is not about telling them everything.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:06 PM (Dj0WE)

409 Trump is giving a real estate clinic, and explaining ice rink construction. Damn surreal.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 09:07 PM (7TOkf)

410 Hildabeast - These attacks are not only on me, but also on President Obama

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:07 PM (miXPX)

411 What would you say to a person for whom spending even 15 minutes
on a bike or treadmill or elliptical is a big accomplishment?


Posted by: chemjeff

I have some weights that you could borrow.

Posted by: Pres'nt Obama at April 14, 2016 09:07 PM (/ciMI)

412 I think it was How The Universe Works on the Science channel.

Well, there's your first problem.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:07 PM (39g3+)

413 405 He fucking loves science don't you know.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:08 PM (B48dK)

414 filbert, well I kinda have a workout buddy, but he is only about as motivated as me, so.... it doesn't always work out
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 08:58 PM (WKc9e)


Okay . . . Make it a contest of sorts with the workout buddy . . . you pick an exercise, he picks another one, both of you pick some short-term, achievable, won't-kill-yourself-but-will-show-improvement goal (increase in weight, go for 15 minutes on the treadmill instead of the 10 minutes, whatever) and see who gets there first.

Maybe keep score for a year, going back and forth, and the overall winner has to buy the loser lunch or something.

Just a wild-ass idea.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:08 PM (s5o+q)

415 Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:06 PM (Dj0WE)

Okay. You've persuaded me back to my original position.
Mr. Wreaks - don't tell your wife, let your daughter do it.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 14, 2016 09:08 PM (CFc5L)

416 412 It was an accident,hit the wrong button on the remote and there he was.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (B48dK)

417
Maybe keep score for a year, going back and forth, and the overall winner has to buy the loser lunch or something.


That is a good idea, but it has to be more than lunch. We buy each other lunch all the time. Something bigger.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (WKc9e)

418 Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (lutOX)

Yeah I've read that too, I just don't feel see much results from "light" workouts.

Unfortunately that may be because I enjoy food as much now as I did 30 years ago, thus said love handles and whatnot.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (heN73)

419 It was an accident,hit the wrong button on the remote and there he was.

Posted by: steevy

Yup, that's how Reggie tells the story of Our First Time.

Posted by: Pres'nt Obama at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (/ciMI)

420 No. You promised your adult daughter you wouldn't. And what the heck is it, I can't come up with anything.

-
She was rude to her boss and got fired.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (Nwg0u)


Yep. It's not a secret that stays secret forever. What's the worst that can happen with your wife? She finds out you knew before she did, and gets mad at you for not telling her?


So what!!!


The worst that can happen with your daughter is she decides she can't confide in you.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (Dj0WE)

421 Hildabeast - These attacks are not only on me, but also on President Obama
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:07 PM (miXPX)

****

So, the Vag card isn't getting it done for her, so she feels the need to run to Dem Daddy and borrow his overdrawn Race Card? Sounds like an awesome plan.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (aBI1l)

422 I think it was How The Universe Works on the Science channel.I changed it so fast I am not sure though.

Posted by: steevy at April 14, 2016 09:03 PM (B48dK)
Obama is doing intros on shows on the fkn SCIENCE CHANNEL???
ugh..............
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 09:06 PM (WKc9e)


Science Channel is one of that very long list of channels I USED to watch.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:10 PM (s5o+q)

423 What would you say to a person for whom spending even 15 minutes on a bike or treadmill or elliptical is a big accomplishment?

I'd say they probably weren't silent in their workout...

I disagree. If an adult child ask you to keep a confidence, specifically with your spouse, you have the right to tell that child up front that you cannot keep secrets from your spouse, or you keep the secret.

That's how I understand marriage, from an outsider's perspective. Kids you have temporarily, then they go out on their own. The spouse is for life.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:10 PM (39g3+)

424 There are many paths in life, but only two types of large bathrooms at a football stadium.

In addition, there are a few small individual bathrooms for those at the pointy end of the Gaussian distribution.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 14, 2016 09:10 PM (u82oZ)

425
Trump is best when he goes off his off-script.

He just remarked, off the cuff, about the professionally-made signs the protestors were carrying. "What kind of crap is that?!?"

Trump says he wants protestor signs to be made in the basements! Ha!

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:10 PM (/MtvT)

426 I had ACL surgery years ago, treadmills and stairclimbers were great.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:11 PM (miXPX)

427 That is a good idea, but it has to be more than lunch. We buy each other lunch all the time. Something bigger.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (WKc9e)


Yup. The whole idea is to set goals, have a reward at the end, and have a buddy to keep you on track, and him to keep you on track. If you can make it more fun somehow, you're a lot better off.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:11 PM (s5o+q)

428 Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:10 PM (/MtvT)

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:11 PM (nbrY/)

429 chemjeff--Try this one insane trick and watch the pounds disappear! *link to virus*

Posted by: The Internet at April 14, 2016 09:12 PM (/ciMI)

430 No. You promised your adult daughter you wouldn't. And what the heck is it, I can't come up with anything.

-
She was rude to her boss and got fired.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:02 PM (Nwg0u)


Yep. It's not a secret that stays secret forever. What's the worst that can happen with your wife? She finds out you knew before she did, and gets mad at you for not telling her?


So what!!!


The worst that can happen with your daughter is she decides she can't confide in you.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (Dj0WE)


That sounds like a "your mother is going to find out about this sooner or later, and you'll be better off if she finds out from you" sort of situation.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:13 PM (s5o+q)

431 I disagree. If an adult child ask you to keep a confidence, specifically with your spouse, you have the right to tell that child up front that you cannot keep secrets from your spouse, or you keep the secret.

That's how I understand marriage, from an outsider's perspective. Kids you have temporarily, then they go out on their own. The spouse is for life.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:10 PM (39g3+)


I think this is worked out early in any marriage. Are we allowed to keep secrets from each other, and if so, what's allowed and what is not?


With minor children? Hell no! We share everything.


With adult children? Well yeah, if you and your spouse say you WILL NOT keep secrets from each other, then tell your daughter BEFORE she shares her secret that you cannot and will not keep it from your wife.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (Dj0WE)

432 352 If you still have love handles you shouldn't be judgy about how other people work out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 08:45 PM (1xUj/)

That was pretty piss poor. I'll be as judgy as I want. If you're doing better, let's hear it.
Posted by: Blano



Dude, I'm the one trying to support chemjeff's effort to get in shape. He's not used to it.

You're the one bragging about your workout but admitting love handles.

I've been in an out of shape all my life. I started out as a jock and it wasn't hard to get back in shape whenever I needed to. I always hit a point where I slack off and then hate myself and then get back into it.

Well, I'm 56 and it isn't so easy anymore. When I hit my last peak I was doing 25 minutes on a Stairmaster at level 7 and following it with two circuits of free weights* every day.

I haven't had a serious workout in 4 months and I have a gut again and I have worked up enough self-loathing to get back into it.

*I could lecture on the benefits of free weights vs. machines, but we're talking to a guy who's talking himself into working out. You don't want to set the bar too high.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (1xUj/)

433 The Socialist Apocalypse is coming, faster than many realize.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (miXPX)

434 As a conservative, I'm proud to say that I will vote for Cruz. He is the smartest man in the room.

However, I do believe in the idea of transgender. Sorry folks .... it's real. Accept it.

I do think that a person needs to be over 18 to change.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (NCjTR)

435 Trump says he wants protestor signs to be made in the basements! Ha!

There was a time, for a while, after the Tea Party showed up with all these hand-made signs that the left realized how prepared and non-grass roots they all looked with identically professionally designed signs handed out. So they started to create these rougher looking ones, but they dropped that now again.

Its not a real protest if everyone is bussed in, handed shirts and signs, and told what to chant and say.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (39g3+)

436 Trump " Jeb should move up here, the energy level is contagious..."

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (7TOkf)

437
Unfortunately that may be because I enjoy food as much now as I did 30 years ago, thus said love handles and whatnot.
Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 09:09 PM (heN73)
***
Ahh...yes, that can be a problem.

I saw it with one of the MD's who'd packed on the pounds after childbirth. She switched up her diet, eliminated rice except for once a week, did her qi gong with light weights, and morphed into quite the yummy mummy in short order.

She went from, "Good morning, Dr. So-and-so, to "Ni hao, baby," in a matter of months.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (lutOX)

438 Yep. It's not a secret that stays secret forever. What's the worst that can happen with your wife? She finds out you knew before she did, and gets mad at you for not telling her?


So what!!!


The worst that can happen with your daughter is she decides she can't confide in you.

-
That sounds right.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (Nwg0u)

439 i can't chane the channel fast enough when that phuckstick comes on myself. and aunt esther.assholes.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (ucDmr)

440 Spouses keep secrets from each other all the time. And that's fine! I mean, heck, if my wife knew half of what I've done....

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 14, 2016 09:15 PM (/ciMI)

441 >>>That is a good idea, but it has to be more than lunch. We buy each other lunch all the time. Something bigger.
------
Do it like you mean it, a fvcking house

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 09:15 PM (voOPb)

442 Obama is doing intros on shows on the fkn SCIENCE CHANNEL???
ugh..............

No kidding. I think Michelle Obama is going to be on NCIS too. Once he leaves office, how much do you think they will be on TV? I may throw mine out of the window.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 09:15 PM (GgxVX)

443
433 The Socialist Apocalypse is coming, faster than many realize.
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (miXPX)

Maybe it is already here, but progressing very slowly.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:15 PM (MQEz6)

444 However, I do believe in the idea of transgender.

Sure, there are people who are mentally unstable and believe they should be another gender. There are people who believe their dog tells them to kill the mailman. There are people who believe they are Julius Caesar. That's all real stuff that actually happens.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:16 PM (39g3+)

445 chemjeff--Try this one insane trick and watch the pounds disappear! *link to virus*
Posted by: The Internet

Heh, but can he make 95 dollars an hour while doing it? As my friend's sister did from home... Said home being paid off within a week!

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:17 PM (e347P)

446 That sounds like a "your mother is going to find out about this sooner or later, and you'll be better off if she finds out from you" sort of situation.
Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:13 PM (s5o+q)


Yup.


Also, was suggested already, but to emphasize: She knows mom told her so, and Mr. Wrecks says his wife is more of the "tough love" type than he is. So... she came to you first for a reason. She didn't want/need mom's tough love at the moment. She needed dad's TLC.


So give her that.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:17 PM (Dj0WE)

447 ace could have used a bathroom yesterday

Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (0O7c5)

448 How are sanctuary cities and pot legalization by localities any different then South Carolina nullification of Federal tariffs?

Posted by: Jean at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (cXiMR)

449 Anonosaurus Wrecks, so she won't tell her mom to save herself embarrassment or recriminations? I wouldn't want to be in the middle. I'd tell my kid to own up to her mistake. I wouldn't want to enable that kind of behavior. My husband comes first.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (GgxVX)

450 ace could have used a bathroom yesterday


Posted by: phoenixgirl

What a shitty thing to say.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (/ciMI)

451 444

"Sure, there are people who are mentally unstable and believe they should be another gender. There are people who believe their dog tells them to kill the mailman. There are people who believe they are Julius Caesar. That's all real stuff that actually happens."

Sorry, God's not perfect.


Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (NCjTR)

452 That is a good idea, but it has to be more than lunch. We buy each other lunch all the time. Something bigger.
------
Do it like you mean it, a fvcking house
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 09:15 PM (voOPb)


Or, behind door #3 . . .

A NEW CAR!!!!11!!!11!!!eleventy

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (s5o+q)

453 However, I do believe in the idea of transgender.
--

That's exactly what it is - a belief. Part of the liberal theology.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (nbrY/)

454 No kidding. I think Michelle Obama is going to be on NCIS too

I gave up on NCIS, it just lost my interest and nobody seems to really care much any more. They're all just showing up and going through the motions. Plus, the bad guys are mostly evil Americans now, and government types.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (39g3+)

455 Another thing that has kept me thin is eating with women. No, really - if you're self-conscious about the impression you're making, and if you eat only as much as she does, in general, you'll eat far less than you would otherwise.

(And, chemjeff, and the other straight 'rons out there - a chick makes an excellent workout partner.)

Anyway, back to pondering the terrible doom that awaits us all...

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (lutOX)

456 My husband comes first.

Posted by: no good deed

*Says nothing*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (/ciMI)

457 What a shitty thing to say.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (/ciMI)


Synchronicity.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (s5o+q)

458 What a shitty thing to say.

Look who's talking.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (bZ7mE)

459
444 However, I do believe in the idea of transgender.

Sure, there are people who are mentally unstable and believe they should be another gender. There are people who believe their dog tells them to kill the mailman. There are people who believe they are Julius Caesar. That's all real stuff that actually happens.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:16 PM (39g3+)

Should we assume that a healthy female brain cannot exist in a male body?

Should we assume that all of this is determined by a combination of illness and other insults?

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (MQEz6)

460 My husband comes first.


My kids come first.

On the other hand, I'm divorced.

Spouses can leave, kids are forever.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (1xUj/)

461 Yep. It's not a secret that stays secret forever. What's the worst that can happen with your wife? She finds out you knew before she did, and gets mad at you for not telling her?


So what!!!


The worst that can happen with your daughter is she decides she can't confide in you.

-
That sounds right.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (Nwg0u)


Trust your instincts too. You know better than any of us the relationships the three of you have. You know where the lines are, and how to keep this about the three of you caring for/about each other.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (Dj0WE)

462 However, I do believe in the idea of transgender. Sorry folks .... it's real. Accept it.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (NCjTR) fnord (NCjTR)


I could give a damn what people wear or how they do their hair, if they aren't stirring up shit.

The situation now is the *absolutely massive* stirring of shit for political advantage.

Here's a tip for those in the "special" categories, whatever they may be - Your Turn In The Barrel Will Come, your only *remotely* safe path is to get rid of the Goddamned barrel.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (wB8Tg)

463 These two were much more civilized way back in the days of "Those damned emails"

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (miXPX)

464 How are sanctuary cities and pot legalization by localities any different then South Carolina nullification of Federal tariffs?

That doesn't cost the federal government any money.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (39g3+)

465 *Poo-poos critics*

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (/ciMI)

466 Ha, Turd...sorry, definitely a phrasing error. LMBO

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (GgxVX)

467 ace could have used a bathroom yesterday
Posted by: phoenixgirl at April 14, 2016 09:19 PM (0O7c5)


Depends.


(C'mon, people, you KNOW you wanted to . . .)

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (s5o+q)

468 Sorry, God's not perfect.

God's what?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (bZ7mE)

469 My kids come first.

On the other hand, I'm divorced.

Spouses can leave, kids are forever.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (1xUj/)

****

Yep. This.

*Fist bump*

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 14, 2016 09:22 PM (aBI1l)

470 Ironic. I took too long grabbing my iPad to read on the terlit and aced myself.

Posted by: blaster at April 14, 2016 09:22 PM (2Ocf1)

471 Anyway, back to pondering the terrible doom that awaits us all...
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (lutOX)


What do you mean?

Friday?

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:22 PM (s5o+q)

472 So give her that.
Posted by: BurtTC

You are now my mentor, if you so accept.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:22 PM (e347P)

473 463 These two were much more civilized way back in the days of "Those damned emails"
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (miXPX)

Wait, are Bernie and Hillary having a fisticuffs at their debate?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:22 PM (nbrY/)

474 468 Sorry, God's not perfect.

God's what?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (bZ7mE)

it's trolling. Don't feed it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Better Dead than Redski. at April 14, 2016 09:23 PM (WVsWD)

475
Megyn Kelly has formed her own Luntz dunce focus group -- of New Yawkers.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:23 PM (/MtvT)

476 Wrecks,

Imagine the look on your wife's face. You know, a combination of confusion,surprise, and anger. (Sorry ettes, you all have that look.) then she asks how long have you known about this. If you have a good answer for that then keep the confidence. But you don't. Plus, which woman are you going to grow old with?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 14, 2016 09:23 PM (kTF2Z)

477 Spouses can leave, kids are forever.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (1xUj/)
-------------
*clinks glass, fist-bumps*

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 09:23 PM (7TOkf)

478
Should we assume that a healthy female brain cannot exist in a male body?


Yes. But the idea that a brain has a gender is... curious, to say the least. Perhaps you mean someone's soul and identity, which you believe resides in the brain.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:23 PM (39g3+)

479 "That's exactly what it is - a belief. Part of the liberal theology.'

I will agree that a lot of people are misdiagnosed (which is a tragedy), but I think there are few souls that are in the wrong body.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:23 PM (NCjTR)

480
460 My husband comes first.


My kids come first.

On the other hand, I'm divorced.

Spouses can leave, kids are forever.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (1xUj/)

Yup.

The wife is gone and the kids are not.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:24 PM (MQEz6)

481 The Socialist Apocalypse is coming, faster than many realize.
Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:14 PM (miXPX)

Maybe it is already here, but progressing very slowly.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:15 PM (MQEz6)


Socialism: It can't even to the apocalypse right.

Posted by: The Apocalyptic Hat at April 14, 2016 09:24 PM (vBeA5)

482
Everyone's offended!

/jerkoff gesture @ this dumb country

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:24 PM (/MtvT)

483 OMG, I just realized this.

Ace, yesterday, felt an uncontrollable urge to donate to the Free Shit Army.

How, oh HOW did nobody quip that in last night's thread?

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:24 PM (s5o+q)

484 My kids come first.


I may be super sensitive to this kind of stuff. I watched my drug addict brother manipulate my parents for years. They finally told him "we" were a thing long before "you." I'm sure Wrecks the Younger isn't in that league.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 09:24 PM (GgxVX)

485 Socialism: It can't even to the apocalypse right.

Posted by: The Apocalyptic Hat

This time it'll be different!

Posted by: Leftists, every time at April 14, 2016 09:25 PM (/ciMI)

486 Souls have no gender.
God does not make mistakes.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:25 PM (nbrY/)

487 Bernie and Hildabeast are going at each other, but I'm done my bowl of soup and need to get up at 4am,.

Chinese Grand Prix Friday practice is tonight.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:25 PM (miXPX)

488 Do the Left care about children, or their parents wishes? No. I would say that they care more about pervs having access to children, except that, *that* is not what the butthurt yowling about NC HB2 is about.

It is about control , as always.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:25 PM (mxCgt)

489 Everyone's offended!



/jerkoff gesture @ this dumb country

Posted by: Mr. Rourke

*Huffs huffily*
Well, I've never!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:25 PM (/ciMI)

490
Should we assume that a healthy female brain cannot exist in a male body?


Um,

yes.



Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:26 PM (/MtvT)

491 Ace, yesterday, felt an uncontrollable urge to donate to the Free Shit Army.

That term does not refer to unrestrained bowel movements, dang it!

Well, maybe it does, really.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:26 PM (39g3+)

492 Should we assume that a healthy female brain cannot exist in a male body?

----

This brain is from some lady named "Abby Normal."

Posted by: Eye-Gore at April 14, 2016 09:26 PM (/ciMI)

493
478
Should we assume that a healthy female brain cannot exist in a male body?

Yes. But the idea that a brain has a gender is... curious, to say the least. Perhaps you mean someone's soul and identity, which you believe resides in the brain.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:23 PM (39g3+)

I do not mean that.

The soul is something people believe exists, but there is no evidence for it.

I mean a brain can be constructed as female or male.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:27 PM (MQEz6)

494 304 If you gotta go, you gotta go!

If you gotta go, go now, or else you gotta stay all night.

Posted by: Bobby Z at April 14, 2016 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

495 I haven't had a serious workout in 4 months and I have a gut again and I have worked up enough self-loathing to get back into it.

I'm in pretty much the same boat. Went I think 8 months without working out because I've been moving from place to place, and was shocked at how much I had deteriorated, so to speak.

I just started back up again a few weeks ago myself after said loathing. No matter how much I work out, losing weight has always been a struggle. Seems like at our age just looking at a candy bar puts on weight. It's very frustrating.

I wasn't trying to be negative to CJ, though that's how it came off. It's just that not seeing results can get one discouraged also. Raising my hand here too.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 09:27 PM (heN73)

496 >>>ace could have used a bathroom yesterday<<<

Yeah, but the tranny in the china shop spooked him while he was gutting a hobo and he fled a safer space where sanitation facilities are scarce.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:27 PM (+E2Y7)

497 Release the bowels!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:27 PM (/ciMI)

498 It is about control , as always.

If there is no absolute ethics or truth...then all that's left is the power to impose what you want.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:27 PM (39g3+)

499 Hillary touting "standing withe the SEIU". Has anyone ever asked her if anyone in the SEIU is making less than $15/hr.?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:28 PM (mxCgt)

500 WHy are these two angry old fucking clowns screaming at each other?

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:28 PM (+E2Y7)

501 Disney, who is boycotting a couple States now for 'No Gay Cakes' and bathroom issues...

Has Disney STORES and a Disney Channel in Saudi Arabia... a place where the High Court just called to KILL more Gays.

So apparently multiculturalism is WAY OK... unless it is Hetrosexual or Christian, and in the US...

Posted by: Don Quixote at April 14, 2016 07:37 PM (qf6WZ)



White, hetero and Christian are enemies of the collective. They must be eliminated comrades.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2016 09:28 PM (45oDG)

502 500!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2016 09:28 PM (Io87j)

503 474 468 Sorry, God's not perfect.

God's what?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:21 PM (bZ7mE)

it's trolling. Don't feed it.

I'm not trolling. I have been on here many times to rally the conservative troops against liberalism.

Just saying, life experiences in dealing with real people .... some souls don't fit the plumbing they were born with.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:28 PM (NCjTR)

504 Damnit!

Posted by: Weasel at April 14, 2016 09:28 PM (Io87j)

505 Hillary flaunting her support for $15/hr. in Seattle. Someone might ask about the 11,000 jobs lost.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (mxCgt)

506 The best advice I've ever gotten from a military man was "never miss a chance to hit the head." It sounds trivial but its actually wise.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (39g3+)

507 Holy crap, y'all are actually watching that debate? I'd rather wash ace's soiled underpants by hand.

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (GgxVX)

508
WHy are these two angry old fucking clowns screaming at each other?
Posted by: Fritz


Come January one of them will be screaming at US!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (k4M/B)

509 471 Anyway, back to pondering the terrible doom that awaits us all...
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:20 PM (lutOX)

What do you mean?

Friday?
Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:22 PM (s5o+q)
***
Yep. It's like the old Soviet joke:

What makes the Soviet Union the most progressive nation on earth?

Yesterday was better than today, and tomorrow will be worse yet. Progress!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (/33sy)

510 The soul is something people believe exists, but there is no evidence for it.



I mean a brain can be constructed as female or male.


How would you define "male" and "female" brains without reference to the rest of the body they inhabit?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (bZ7mE)

511 Every perversion will be made legal.

-
Maybe we should abandon the concept that we should relieve ourselves in only a few places and go with an anytime anywhere srandard. You know, like in San Francisco. Or the EPA.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (Nwg0u)

512 Bernie and Hildabeast are going at each other, but I'm done my bowl of soup and need to get up at 4am,.

Chinese Grand Prix Friday practice is tonight.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:25 PM (miXPX)



I hope the old commie bastard wins NY. Just to see the Beast's reaction to losing it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (45oDG)

513 WHy are these two angry old fucking clowns screaming at each other?
Posted by: Fritz
--------------

It's disgusting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (mxCgt)

514 I may be super sensitive to this kind of stuff. I watched my drug addict brother manipulate my parents for years. They finally told him "we" were a thing long before "you." I'm sure Wrecks the Younger isn't in that league.
Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 09:24 PM (GgxVX)


Definitely, addiction adds a layer to this that goes beyond who knows what, and who is keeping secrets. The very thing about many addicts is that their "survival" depends on manipulating people who care about them, and use the love others feel for them to suck the life out of them.


I would not wish a drug addicted child on anyone. But if one has to deal with that burden, EVERYBODY has to acquire armor as quickly as possible, and NEVER allow the addict to get between you and your spouse, you and your other children... really, you and anybody they can otherwise use.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:30 PM (Dj0WE)

515 There are life difference between the sexes, miss out on them and you can never catch up.

Posted by: Skip at April 14, 2016 09:30 PM (miXPX)

516 499 Hillary touting "standing withe the SEIU". Has anyone ever asked her if anyone in the SEIU is making less than $15/hr.?
-----------------
I'll bet many of them have long term contracts that define wages as (insert multiplier here) x MinWage = contract rate.
I don't believe its about $15, I think its about jiggering contracts for much more.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 09:30 PM (7TOkf)

517
Right now Kasich is giving his speech, as the voice of reason. He just made an appeal to all the paranoid. (No joke). This guy is like a walking talking buffoon.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:30 PM (/MtvT)

518 Let My Feces Go!

-The Book of Ace, Chapter 4, Verse 13:11, New Moronic Version, Reviled

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:30 PM (s5o+q)

519 chemjeff, I'll give you some free trainer
advice.....get off the machines. I don't care if you're using 5# free
weights. You'll get more benefit OFF the machines than you will on them.
Posted by: Tami at April 14, 2016 08:32 PM


chemjeff, I'll add 4 words to Tami's advice:

Mark Rippetoe Starting Strength

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (sOhww)

520 Why haven't the politicians in North Cackalacki simply come out and said if your not a pervert or a weirdo North Carolina is the place for you.

To raise your family in a safe a common sense state and all the LGBT activists can go screw.

And tell those corporations and no talent hack entertainers to get out and stay out.

I may move to North Carolina.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (ej1L0)

521 The idea that science can turn a man into a woman or a woman into a man is pure hubris.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (nbrY/)

522 Holy crap, y'all are actually watching that debate? I'd rather wash ace's soiled underpants by hand.

No, really. I'd volunteer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (39g3+)

523
Rippetoe is one of us, too, if you know what I mean. Good man.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (/MtvT)

524 Hillary promises to come after the guns.

Prices/sales soar tomorrow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (mxCgt)

525 498 It is about control , as always.

If there is no absolute ethics or truth...then all that's left is the power to impose what you want.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:27 PM (39g3+)
***
Power is breaking human minds and remoulding them into shapes of your own choosing. Power is not a means, Winston. It is an end.

Telling ya', O'brien's dialogue with Winston is dead-on.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:32 PM (/33sy)

526
510 The soul is something people believe exists, but there is no evidence for it.



I mean a brain can be constructed as female or male.

How would you define "male" and "female" brains without reference to the rest of the body they inhabit?
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:29 PM (bZ7mE)

By how people feel and behave.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:32 PM (MQEz6)

527 Hillary is crazy. Check the transcript.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:32 PM (+E2Y7)

528 Bernie will have you chopped up and fed to the pigs if you don't agree with his ideological, but more importantly, fiscal insanity.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:00 PM (+E2Y7)




Anyone see the raging idiot on Neil Cavuto's show on Fox Business this afternoon? Free this and free that. How are going to pay for it? Stop spending a trillion dollars on nuclear weapons and pay for all college educations instead. I don't know how Cavuto didn't just let her know how fvcking stupid she is

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2016 09:32 PM (45oDG)

529 So give her that.
Posted by: BurtTC

You are now my mentor, if you so accept.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:22 PM (e347P)


Obligatory caution: I'm not wearing any pants.


No, but seriously, thank you. That is kind of you to say.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:32 PM (Dj0WE)

530 Rippetoe is one of us, too, if you know what I mean. Good man.
Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (/MtvT)


I wondered why he never wore pants.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:33 PM (s5o+q)

531 Why haven't the politicians in North Cackalacki simply come out and said if your not a pervert or a weirdo North Carolina is the place for you.

Given that literally thousands of acts are more than willing to go do shows in North Carolina, its pretty obvious that the vast majority of people are perfectly fine with it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:33 PM (39g3+)

532 How would you define "male" and "female" brains without reference to the rest of the body they inhabit?
Posted by: Grey Fox


Good question...
*sits back and waits for the answer to that*

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:33 PM (e347P)

533 Oh, shit.

-ace

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:34 PM (/ciMI)

534 I may move to North Carolina.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
----------

Every time some celeb or out-of-stater declares they will not come here, I celebrate.

Deblasio's cronies - check
Springsteen - check
Michael Moore - check

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:34 PM (9mTYi)

535 I figure this has already been said, but when I say I support freedom, I mean I SUPPORT FREEDOM.

If you want burn an American. Flag, go ahead. If you want to protest at the G8 because some African Studies professor taught you that globalization is bad, go ahead. If you want to write idiotic Salon articles about social workers being more heroic than soldiers, go ahead. And if you want to marry another dude, go ahead.

On the other hand, not only do leftists not care about transgenders, they do not care about freedom. Trannies can use whatever bathroom they like but Christian cake makers must make gay wedding cakes because that increases their control and cuts away at their political enemies. In their minds, this isn't even a double standard.

Don't worry though. I own lots of guns, have extensive military training and my magnanimous attitude towards freedom will only last so long.

I doubt I am alone.

Posted by: Randy Weaver 's Revenge at April 14, 2016 09:34 PM (hxUdS)

536
Now Kasich is touting his big govt policies for "everyone." Two minutes he was a Reagan revolutionary. A true conservative.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:34 PM (/MtvT)

537
532 How would you define "male" and "female" brains without reference to the rest of the body they inhabit?
Posted by: Grey Fox


Good question...
*sits back and waits for the answer to that*
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:33 PM (e347P)

See 526

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:34 PM (MQEz6)

538 A person who was born male cannot be female in his brain.
He can imagine that he feels as he imagines a female to feel.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:34 PM (nbrY/)

539 464 How are sanctuary cities and pot legalization by localities any different then South Carolina nullification of Federal tariffs?

That doesn't cost the federal government any money.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

True, but the tariffs weren't about revenue, they were about keeping Southern cotton flowing to Northern Mills. Much they same way sanctuary programs keep the costs associated with services and food production down.

Posted by: Jean at April 14, 2016 09:35 PM (cXiMR)

540 How would you define "male" and "female" brains without reference to the rest of the body they inhabit?
Posted by: Grey Fox
-----------

H8tr

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:35 PM (9mTYi)

541 When I get MY way, every swinging dick is going to sit down on a toilet to piss, and wipe back to front.

Posted by: Hildabeast at April 14, 2016 09:35 PM (t8jZj)

542
By how people feel and behave.


So if someone believes they are a cat and behaves as one, they have a cat's brain? Or are they, you know, mentally disturbed?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:35 PM (39g3+)

543
Anyone see the raging idiot on Neil Cavuto's show on Fox Business this afternoon?

I saw that twit. Was screaming at the TV. Where does she come up with her "fact" that were are spending a trillion bucks to upgrade our nukes?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 09:35 PM (k4M/B)

544 That should read "if you want to burn an American flag, go ahead". Stupid phone.

Posted by: Randy Weaver 's Revenge at April 14, 2016 09:36 PM (hxUdS)

545 No, but seriously, thank you. That is kind of you to say.
Posted by: BurtT

I could have used your advice during my two failed marriges. Assuming, you were fully clothed, of course.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:36 PM (e347P)

546 Sanders stumbling badly on gun issue.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:37 PM (9mTYi)

547 Now Kasich is touting his big govt policies for "everyone." Two minutes he was a Reagan revolutionary

Jesus told me to say whatever I had to in order to gain power.

Posted by: John Kasich at April 14, 2016 09:37 PM (39g3+)

548 542
By how people feel and behave.


So if someone believes they are a cat and behaves as one, they have a cat's brain? Or are they, you know, mentally disturbed?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:35 PM (39g3+)

No, I am talking only about human beings who believe their brain does not match their body.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:37 PM (MQEz6)

549 Bernie needs a nap. He's slipping.

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:37 PM (+E2Y7)

550 I have to get ready for work, but


My adult daughter

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 14, 2016 08:51 PM (Nwg0u)


She spoke to you in confidence as an adult, treat her w/ the respect you'd give an adult.


Posted by: dDan at April 14, 2016 09:37 PM (hwYmz)

551
This guy for real?

Kasich, a candidate who hasn't won a delegate in 5 weeks, is guaranteeing he can the general election.

Posted by: Mr. Rourke at April 14, 2016 09:37 PM (/MtvT)

552 In terms of the people for whose sake this whole thing was, ostensibly, undertaken:

I've known a few trans folk in my time. By and large and in the main, they just wanted to live their lives and be left alone. They knew they were outsiders, or at least outliers, but the ones I knew certainly had no desire to remake society to conform to their way of life.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (/33sy)

553 I picked the wrong year to stop smoking.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (9mTYi)

554 Ace turned me into a . . .

NOOD.

Posted by: filbert at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (s5o+q)

555 I'll bet many of them have long term contracts that define wages as (insert multiplier here) x MinWage = contract rate.
I don't believe its about $15, I think its about jiggering contracts for much more.
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 09:30 PM (7TOkf)

*****

Yep, and I would have to believe that these clauses are included in Public Sector Union contracts as well.

Posted by: Tim in GA at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (aBI1l)

556
Y'know, how difficult would it be to create a sensor that detected the presence of an XX or XY chromosome and then allow only the designated type entrance to the facility?

Because biology, bitches!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (BK3ZS)

557 No, I am talking only about human beings who believe their brain does not match their body.

Like a human that believes they are a cat, and their body doesn't match their brain? Got it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (39g3+)

558 Nood- old people confused by where they are and why they are screaming thread

Posted by: no good deed at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (GgxVX)

559 Whoa, whose spending a trillion dollars on nukes? Cause my bd guys are missing it.

Posted by: Jean at April 14, 2016 09:39 PM (cXiMR)

560 Hillary promises to come after the guns.

Prices/sales soar tomorrow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:31 PM (mxCgt)

It should be assumed we have until 1/20/17 to make all the gun purchases we need. After that, all bets are off.

Posted by: Blano at April 14, 2016 09:39 PM (heN73)

561 By how people feel and behave.

Posted by: eman

Still not getting it.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:39 PM (e347P)

562 Where am I... and why am I screaming?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 14, 2016 09:39 PM (9mTYi)

563 Honestly the transgender concept is based on stereotyping and a strict adherence to rigid gender roles.
Just because a man likes ___ (wearing makeup, high heels, dresses) that makes him a woman in his brain?
That's like Victorians thinking that a woman wearing pants was unnatural.
Once again, progressives prove that they are simply horribly mutated neo-Victorians

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:40 PM (nbrY/)

564 I could have used your advice during my two failed marriges. Assuming, you were fully clothed, of course.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:36 PM (e347P)


Honestly, I think communication is so crucial to this stuff. Relationships evolve, and communication should do so as well.


Any two people who say "we share everything, we have no secrets," they aren't necessarily wrong to want that, they just are going to find it impossible to keep it going.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 14, 2016 09:40 PM (Dj0WE)

565 Wrecks: My husband had an aunt and uncle with a similar dilemma. Loved how they handled it. Daughter told her mother about boyfriend problems--the chief one being he was married. The next morning her father showed up at the boyfriend's workplace shouting, "Where's the sonofabitch? I'm going to kill him!" End of affair.

The daughter said to her mother, How could you? Her mother--and may all mothers everywhere, anytime, straighten their spines and echo her--You knew who you were talking to. I'm not your friend. I'm your mother.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at April 14, 2016 09:40 PM (pZEKq)

566 They knew they were outsiders, or at least outliers, but the ones I knew certainly had no desire to remake society to conform to their way of life.

Yeah, but that's true about most homosexuals, also. the activists and leftists don't give a damn about that. Its not about homosexuals or trannies or anyone else. Its about the power to implement their agenda, to destroy their ideological opponents, and dominate - or better yet - destroy those who dare dissent.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:41 PM (39g3+)

567 By how people feel and behave.

How do you distinguish between the gender of brains, except by saying "this set of behavior typically belongs to people who have this set of genitalia, ergo this behavior is typically male/female?" And if if someone falls outside of the norm, how do you know that 1) your definition of what constitutes female/male behavior and feelings is correct and 2) the brain is in fact "female/male" and not simply malformed (i.e., mentally ill) in some way?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:41 PM (bZ7mE)

568
557 No, I am talking only about human beings who believe their brain does not match their body.

Like a human that believes they are a cat, and their body doesn't match their brain? Got it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:38 PM (39g3+)

No. A human thinking they are a cat is clearly ill.

A human thinking their human brain does not match their human body may not be ill at all. They may be right.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:41 PM (MQEz6)

569 I feel like we're meeting with the Wizard of Oz.

The cowardly lion's medal proves he is brave.
The scarecrow's diploma proves he is smart.
The tin woodsman's testimonial proves he has a heart.
Caitlyn Jenner standing in a woman's restroom proves he is a woman.
Obama's nobel prize proves he is a man of peace.

Posted by: angela urkel at April 14, 2016 09:42 PM (eJ40K)

570 HOw much regulatory manipulation does the US Government use to keep professional sports leagues in line?

Uncle Sam says, "Monopolies make for great cash cows, beeyotch."

Posted by: Fritz at April 14, 2016 09:44 PM (+E2Y7)

571 No. A human thinking they are a cat is clearly ill.

Based upon what? What is your standard for deciding one person who rejects their physical form for another? How do you make that call, objectively and logically?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:44 PM (39g3+)

572 563 Honestly the transgender concept is based on stereotyping and a strict adherence to rigid gender roles.
Just because a man likes ___ (wearing makeup, high heels, dresses) that makes him a woman in his brain?
That's like Victorians thinking that a woman wearing pants was unnatural.
Once again, progressives prove that they are simply horribly mutated neo-Victorians
Posted by: @votermom

^^^this^^^

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:44 PM (e347P)

573 With all the birth defects that that take place in the world, wouldn't one assume that a few brains don't match?

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:44 PM (NCjTR)

574
567 By how people feel and behave.

How do you distinguish between the gender of brains, except by saying "this set of behavior typically belongs to people who have this set of genitalia, ergo this behavior is typically male/female?" And if if someone falls outside of the norm, how do you know that 1) your definition of what constitutes female/male behavior and feelings is correct and 2) the brain is in fact "female/male" and not simply malformed (i.e., mentally ill) in some way?
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:41 PM (bZ7mE)

Well, a healthy female brain in a male body may give the same responses as a diseased male brain in a male body.

The question is can a healthy female brain exist in a male body.

If the answer is yes, the next question is can it be distinquished from a diseased male brain?

I

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:45 PM (MQEz6)

575
/jerkoff gesture @ this dumb country

Posted by: Mr. Rourke

*Huffs huffily*
Well, I've never!

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 14, 2016 09:25 PM (/ciMI)








Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 14, 2016 09:46 PM (o98Jz)

576
571 No. A human thinking they are a cat is clearly ill.

Based upon what? What is your standard for deciding one person who rejects their physical form for another? How do you make that call, objectively and logically?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:44 PM (39g3+)

Easily. Cats are not humans and humans are not cats.

My question resides only within the boundary of human behavior and human biology.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:48 PM (MQEz6)

577 With all the birth defects that that take place in the world, wouldn't one assume that a few brains don't match?

When brains can't line up with physical reality, we generally call that "crazy." Why should this particular category of "brain=/=reality" be taken seriously?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:48 PM (bZ7mE)

578 >>defects that that take place in the world, wouldn't one assume that a few brains don't match?

Well isn't that a little micro aggression & judgmental all at the same time

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 09:49 PM (voOPb)

579 Easily. Cats are not humans and humans are not cats.

Men are not women and women are not men. I'm still waiting for your basis other than 'I know someone who is a transexual and they are nice' or 'society tells me I should think this.'

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:50 PM (39g3+)

580 Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:45 PM (MQEz6)

So basically women in general are just defective men?

Again, another belief many Victorians would not disagree with.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:50 PM (nbrY/)

581 I think eman basically just restated my questions without actually providing any answers.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:51 PM (bZ7mE)

582 I'm a man
But, I can change
If I have to
I guess

St. Red Green

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 14, 2016 09:51 PM (voOPb)

583
577 With all the birth defects that that take place in the world, wouldn't one assume that a few brains don't match?

When brains can't line up with physical reality, we generally call that "crazy." Why should this particular category of "brain=/=reality" be taken seriously?
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:48 PM (bZ7mE)

Because female human brains function differently than male human brains. This implies they are built differently.

So a person could have DNA that instructed build a make body and put a female brain in it.

My question is is this impossible.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:51 PM (MQEz6)

584 For all of you throwing around the term "mental illness" ... by definition of the term 100 years ago, must of the individuals on this thread would be locked up.

Perceptions change with a better understanding of the human mind.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:52 PM (NCjTR)

585 Any two people who say "we share everything, we have no secrets," they aren't necessarily wrong to want that, they just are going to find it impossible to keep it going.
Posted by: BurtTC

Yes, it is impossible. Sharing "everything" leaves no room for trust, witch is the foundation of a marriage IMO.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:52 PM (e347P)

586 I saw that twit. Was screaming at the TV. Where does she come up with her "fact" that were are spending a trillion bucks to upgrade our nukes?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 14, 2016 09:35 PM (k4M/B)




She was wearing a t-shirt that said Socialist Alternative. Which shows how deep the brainwashing is to think that socialism is the way to go. And as I said to a guy at work, that alternative is standing in line for 3 days to get toilet paper

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 14, 2016 09:55 PM (45oDG)

587 "....objectively and logically?"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:44 PM (39g3+)

Objective observation of a human yields the undeniable data that the human is not a cat.

I refute it thus! [dangles catnip over human psychopath. Observes lack of physiological response]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 09:55 PM (Zu3d9)

588 So a person could have DNA that instructed build a make body and put a female brain in it.

My question is is this impossible.
Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:51 PM (MQEz6)


No, not impossible. One possibility would be a chimera--a one organism, but with two different sets of DNA.

This is not, however, either common or normal.

Something which is not normal can properly be termed "abnormal."

Posted by: The GOP at April 14, 2016 09:55 PM (s5o+q)

589 My question is is this impossible.

My question is why you would call it a female brain inside a male body instead of just a variant of a male brain. It isn't like they are clearly labelled for our convenience.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:55 PM (bZ7mE)

590 Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:51 PM (MQEz6)

You are missing the usual argument of your side of the debate, which is - what about hermaphrodites - people born with both male and female genitalia. What sort of brains do they have - male or female?

The answer being - they have hermaphrodite brains.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:56 PM (nbrY/)

591
580 Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:45 PM (MQEz6)

So basically women in general are just defective men?

Again, another belief many Victorians would not disagree with.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 09:50 PM (nbrY/)

No, I am not saying that at all.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:56 PM (MQEz6)

592 My question is is this impossible.
Posted by: eman

At that point, it would be a mental disorder. Something that should be treated and not excepted as the new normal.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 09:56 PM (e347P)

593 Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:48 PM (bZ7mE)

Logically irrefutable.

Yet....

Thus my existential despair.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 09:57 PM (Zu3d9)

594 For all of you throwing around the term "mental illness" ... by
definition of the term 100 years ago, must of the individuals on this
thread would be locked up.



Nuts.

Perceptions change with a better understanding of the human mind.

So? That doesn't refute anything anyone has said.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:58 PM (bZ7mE)

595 Objective observation of a human yields the undeniable data that the human is not a cat.

Objective observation of a human yields the undeniable data that a man is not a woman. And so we go.

Eman's entire argument is the same one the progressive does about their moral structure: its self evident. Everyone knows it. This is just how it is, I don't have to defend it!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:58 PM (39g3+)

596
589 My question is is this impossible.

My question is why you would call it a female brain inside a male body instead of just a variant of a male brain. It isn't like they are clearly labelled for our convenience.
Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 09:55 PM (bZ7mE)

Well you could say that a male brain is a variant of a female brain and the other way around, but both brains are quite healthy.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:59 PM (MQEz6)

597 Ugh. Here it's the decline of sanity and the fall of the West, while the Hostages are liveblogging Rosetta's memorial.

This is not a week where feeling cheery is going to happen for me, is it?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 14, 2016 09:59 PM (D0J8L)

598 No, I am not saying that at all.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:56 PM (MQEz6)

I agree that you didn't say it. I was reading a bit, but it's the logical extrapolation of where you were heading.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 10:00 PM (nbrY/)

599 That anyone, anywhere questions mental illness in someone who is a guy that thinks he's a woman tells me just how crazy and stupid our times have become.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 10:01 PM (39g3+)

600 Well you could say that a male brain is a variant of a female brain and the other way around, but both brains are quite healthy.


And happily carried around inside male and female bodies, which allow us to define one set of behavior as "male" and another as "female."

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 10:01 PM (bZ7mE)

601
595 Objective observation of a human yields the undeniable data that the human is not a cat.

Objective observation of a human yields the undeniable data that a man is not a woman. And so we go.

Eman's entire argument is the same one the progressive does about their moral structure: its self evident. Everyone knows it. This is just how it is, I don't have to defend it!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:58 PM (39g3+)

It depends on how deep you probe. Distinquishing a cat from a human is trivial, but determining that the human brain within a human body matches that body is not necessarily as easy.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 10:01 PM (MQEz6)

602 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 09:58 PM (39g3+)

You misunderstood, or I didn't make myself clear.

I am 100% on your side.

Empirical observation yields, in 99.9% of humans, the biological sex of the subject.

That is all that matters. Any deviation from that is pathological and requires psychiatric care.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 10:02 PM (Zu3d9)

603
598 No, I am not saying that at all.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:56 PM (MQEz6)

I agree that you didn't say it. I was reading a bit, but it's the logical extrapolation of where you were heading.
Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 10:00 PM (nbrY/)

No.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 10:04 PM (MQEz6)

604 "...that the human brain within a human body matches that body is not necessarily as easy.
"

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 10:01 PM (MQEz6)

And my answer to that is: "Who gives a shit?"

If the gender of the brain doesn't match the biological body, then the brain needs help, in the form of psychiatric care.

Sorry. There isn't a single cell (and there are +- 10^14 cells)in a transgender human that matches the pathological desire of the transgender to be the other sex.

I will always defer to biology.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 10:06 PM (Zu3d9)

605 Any deviation from that is pathological and requires psychiatric care.

I would guess that in most cases, its not even so serious it requires any mental health care. A lot of people are mentally damaged to a degree that they can function usefully in society without need for any mental health professionals.

But its still a mental problem, not some heroic act of triumph we all should endorse and change society to celebrate.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 10:07 PM (39g3+)

606 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 10:07 PM (39g3+)

Sigh....

It's embarrassing that we actually have to articulate what used to be so fvcking obvious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 10:11 PM (Zu3d9)

607 Eman:
Well, a healthy female brain in a male body may give the same responses as a diseased male brain in a male body.

--

So, your postulate: male body, brain either female or diseased male, are indistinguishable

So, let's say you have two cases, for the sake of argument:
Two male bodies, one with a female brain, one with diseased male brain
By your postulate, they would also be indistinguishable.

Therefore, female bodies, with female brains are indistinguishable from female bodies with diseased male brains.

Ergo, women are defective men

QED

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 10:11 PM (nbrY/)

608 "A lot of people are mentally damaged to a degree
that they can function usefully in society without need for any mental
health professionals.
"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 10:07 PM (39g3+)

Wait...are we talking about The Horde?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 10:12 PM (Zu3d9)

609 Wait...are we talking about The Horde?

Well I didn't want to just come out and admit it....

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at April 14, 2016 10:12 PM (39g3+)

610 Ergo, women are defective men


QED

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 10:11 PM (nbrY/)

Duh!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 10:13 PM (Zu3d9)

611 599 That anyone, anywhere questions mental illness in someone who is a guy that thinks he's a woman tells me just how crazy and stupid our times have become.

There are females that believe they are guys too ... but that probably wouldn't make you question your manhood.

Posted by: bruce jenner at April 14, 2016 10:13 PM (NCjTR)

612 604

"I will always defer to biology."

Or at least, your understanding of it.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 10:16 PM (NCjTR)

613 At this point, I would like to say that I think eman is an awesome commenter here who I agree with on a regular basis.

Just not with this subject.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:17 PM (e347P)

614 At this point, I would like to say that I think eman is an awesome commenter here who I agree with on a regular basis.

Just not with this subject.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:17 PM (e347P)

It looks to me like a couple of Morons who were kind of talking past one another, and then it got worse.

Posted by: Queen Elsa at April 14, 2016 10:19 PM (s5o+q)

615 So a person could have DNA that instructed build a make body and put a female brain in it.



My question is is this impossible.

Posted by: eman at April 14, 2016 09:51 PM (MQEz6)


Even if it is possible the whole world shouldn't be changed to accommodate the one whackiest of that group.

Posted by: Ralph at April 14, 2016 10:20 PM (fdz7u)

616 Eman is assuming that there are definite "male" and "female" brains that
can be distinguished as such irrespective of the body that they inhabit
(despite the fact that the very concept of male and female is based on
the body).

He also assumes that such a mind could be considered "healthy" even though residing in the wrong body.

The problem with both assumptions is that they are in fact subjective categories - if, hypothetically, a male body has a brain that shows similarities to those typically found in female bodies, wouldn't it would more proper to expand the definition of what constitutes a male brain to account for the outlier, since the category of "male brain" in practice means "the type of brain found in male bodies," rather put it the category of "female brain?" And, if so, what definition of "healthy" could you use that encompasses a brain that cannot be reconciled with the body that it inhabits?

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 10:22 PM (bZ7mE)

617 and then it got worse.
Posted by: Queen Elsa

That pretty much sums up the internet.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:22 PM (e347P)

618 Or at least, your understanding of it.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 10:16 PM (NCjTR)

XX = Woman.
XY = Man.

Nothing to understand. That is fact.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 10:23 PM (Zu3d9)

619 573 With all the birth defects that that take place in the world, wouldn't one assume that a few brains don't match?
Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:44 PM (NCjTR)


There *are* some birth defects where babies are born with ambiguous genitalia.

But retooling our whole society to cater to that vanishingly tiny percentage is insane.

Posted by: rickl at April 14, 2016 10:26 PM (sdi6R)

620 Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 10:22 PM (bZ7mE)

I think you are being overly accepting of those outliers.

A female brain is built on the backbone of XX allosomes. No way around that. The same with a male brain. XY allosomes.

If they deviate from the biological construct, then they are flawed or damaged, most likely as a result of environmental effects, but possibly flaws in gene replication.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 14, 2016 10:26 PM (Zu3d9)

621 XX & XY bathrooms aren't fair to those with extra chromosomes, like Florida Congressman Alan Grayson.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 14, 2016 07:15 PM (7qAYi)


He could cut it off.

Posted by: Caitlynn jenner at April 14, 2016 10:28 PM (UsLZp)

622 He could cut it off.
Posted by: Caitlynn jenner

You first!!!

Posted by: Allen Grayson at April 14, 2016 10:30 PM (e347P)

623 This is about sex to be sure. Gay people can use bathrooms for assignations already. What is the goal. No one is being deprived the use of a bathroom, for its intended purpose.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (zOTsN)


If there are two fags playing hide the weenie in one stall, that stall is unavailable for its intended function. Many public restrooms have only one stall.

Posted by: Caitlynn jenner at April 14, 2016 10:31 PM (UsLZp)

624 Sock off

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:32 PM (e347P)

625 for its intended purpose.

Posted by: ThunderB at April 14, 2016 07:18 PM (zOTsN)


If there are two fags playing hide the weenie in one stall, that stall is unavailable for its intended function. Many public restrooms have only one stall.
Posted by: Caitlynn jenner


Hide the weenie is not the intended purose of any public restroom.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:34 PM (e347P)

626 Aberration

Posted by: Huma at April 14, 2016 10:34 PM (fdz7u)

627 Despite all the good factual arguments, I think a better argument is a moral one.
There are fantasies, lies and there is objective truth.
One the one hand lies are all the pretzel twisting arguments to justify mutilating a person.
On the other hand is facing reality as it is (aka take a peek in your pants).

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 10:35 PM (nbrY/)

628 If the answer to your mismatch it to make everyone bow to your twist, you're a failure and a menace. End of discussion.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 14, 2016 10:36 PM (D0J8L)

629 facing reality as it is (aka take a peek in your pants).
Posted by: @votermom

How this has become a concept that even needs discussion is another battle lost in the social wars.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:38 PM (e347P)

630 Can one legally shoot a peeping Tom in a public place though?

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 07:32 PM (nbrY/)


An aerosol can of some strong cleaner/disinfectant would be perfect. Spray it in the perp's eyes. And if quizzed about by cops, you have "germ phobia" and routinely spray down all surfaces you have to touch.

Posted by: Caitlynn jenner at April 14, 2016 10:39 PM (UsLZp)

631 If the answer to your mismatch it to make everyone bow to your twist, you're a failure and a menace. End of discussion.
Posted by: Brother Cavil

Yep.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:40 PM (e347P)

632 Mutilation is now a rite of passage in this transformational world. Tattoos, breast augmentation, body implants (thigh, butt, pecs, etc.), botox, fat injections (what are those lips going to look like in 10 years?), and those ear hole things and other body piercings and on and on.

Decadence and debauchery; derigueur.


Posted by: Ralph at April 14, 2016 10:43 PM (fdz7u)

633 Can one legally shoot a peeping Tom in a public place though?

Posted by: @votermom

No you can not. I believe that you can detain them in a citizen arrest type way and if they resist and you fear for your life... it still wouldn't work in this day and age.

Your life would be ruined. However, you would still be alive.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:46 PM (e347P)

634 I might also add that there is a big difference between a woman who has, say, spatial cognitive abilities that more closely match those typically found in the average male than those typically found in the average female (i.e., she can carry a map in her head), and a woman that thinks she is a man.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 14, 2016 10:47 PM (bZ7mE)

635 An aerosol can of some strong cleaner/disinfectant would be perfect. Spray it in the perp's eyes. And if quizzed about by cops, you have "germ phobia" and routinely spray down all surfaces you have to touch.
Posted by: Caitlynn jenner

This is a very good suggestion.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:48 PM (e347P)

636 635 An aerosol can of some strong cleaner/disinfectant would be perfect. Spray it in the perp's eyes. And if quizzed about by cops, you have "germ phobia" and routinely spray down all surfaces you have to touch.
Posted by: Caitlynn jenner

This is a very good suggestion.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:48 PM (e347P)

While screaming, so you can tell the cops you just panicked and didn't mean to hurt anyone.

Posted by: @votermom at April 14, 2016 10:52 PM (nbrY/)

637 Mutilation is now a rite of passage in this transformational world. Tattoos, breast augmentation, body implants (thigh, butt, pecs, etc.), botox, fat injections (what are those lips going to look like in 10 years?), and those ear hole things and other body piercings and on and on.

Decadence and debauchery; derigueur.


Posted by: Ralph



I see this as victim appropriation for adults, and as "rebellion" for kids. Stupid in either case.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:54 PM (e347P)

638 Ugh. #1 when I came into the world, "One Bad Apple", The Osmonds.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at April 14, 2016 10:55 PM (D0J8L)

639 Somewhat relevant: Just saw a spread at CNN (I denounce myself!) on "the world's most spectacular toilets". Thought Ace (cobs, Horde) might find it interesting...

http://tinyurl.com/jdhgdzt

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 14, 2016 10:55 PM (5csB/)

640 While screaming, so you can tell the cops you just panicked and didn't mean to hurt anyone.
Posted by: @votermo

Oh heck yeah. Gotta show that you were at wits end.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:56 PM (e347P)

641 Thought Ace (cobs, Horde) might find it interesting...

http://tinyurl.com/jdhgdzt
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki

Ace don need no stinkin toilets!

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 10:59 PM (e347P)

642 While screaming, so you can tell the cops you just panicked and didn't mean to hurt anyone.
Posted by: @votermom

Don't forget that you're allowed at least one punch or kick to the nuts. It's not specically mentioned in the Constitution but it's implied/inferred.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 14, 2016 11:10 PM (e347P)

643 Trump is giving a real estate clinic, and explaining ice rink construction. Damn surreal.

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at April 14, 2016 09:07 PM (7TOkf)


He's got Chemjeff on speed dial in case he forgets the recipe for ice.

Posted by: Caitlynn jenner at April 14, 2016 11:11 PM (UsLZp)

644 It's time for that nude thing.\
\

Posted by: Ralph at April 14, 2016 11:14 PM (fdz7u)

645 Just saying, life experiences in dealing with real people .... some souls don't fit the plumbing they were born with.

Posted by: another joe at April 14, 2016 09:28 PM (NCjTR)


Then they should seek help from God. A surgeon isn't going to fix what's wrong with them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 14, 2016 11:21 PM (UsLZp)

646 26 > Cicero - Congrats! Spoken like a 'Tru-Kaboomer!'

Posted by: Doomed 2 Kaboom! at April 14, 2016 11:33 PM (E/DSu)

647
ace,

I would like to ask you and all the other hosts at Ace of
Spades to watch Sean Hannity's interview with Corey Lewandowski. It was
conducted earlier this evening (i.e., Thursday evening).

The video clip can easily be found by searching "lewandowski hannity".
Or you can go to insider.foxnews.com - which is where the the video clip lives.
(I tried posting the link, but it's apparently too long to be accepted by the thread code.)

Please pay special attention to what Lewandowski says about forgiveness
at the very end of the interview. (I'd have been a hell of a lot more
bitter than he is if someone had try to wreck my reputation like that.)
What do you see coming from his heart? - Graciousness in victory. You
can see that he is clearly NOT holding a grudge.
To put it plainly: we clearly see a good man in Corey Lewandowski.

I think you guys ought to seriously consider reassessing your take on
Corey Lewandowski and whether there is ANY REASON AT ALL to believe that
this man has EVER behaved like a thug.

And likewise, I think you guys ought to seriously consider reassessing your take on Trump and his campaign.

I'll post this comment further down in a few more threads because... well,
just to be doing it. Maybe some other late coming commenters will consider giving
the interview a look.

Corey Lewandowski certainly deserves to be
heard in his own words on this issue after all of the vile things that
have been said about him.

Posted by: Testy Stoic Trumpublican at April 15, 2016 05:07 AM (AhiRu)

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Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
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Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
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