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Trump Has Already Missed Some Major Deadlines in the Delegate Election Process
Including in Arizona and Virginia, where he won. He'll have those delegates on the first ballot, bound as they are to vote for him by law, but since he didn't get anyone loyal to him elected to be delegates, they'll probably be voting for others on the second ballot.
Trump's team is only now starting to engage in the delegate selection process, the choosing of the actual people who will attend and vote at the convention. Republicans have already selected delegates in at least nine states. And in others, such as Virginia and Arizona, the deadline to apply to be a delegate has passed. Indiana's primary, for example, won't take place until next month. But the deadline to become a national convention delegate was in mid-March. "Are we concerned? Yes, definitely," said Tony Samuel, vice chairman of Trump's Indiana campaign. ... Cruz has built an organization of volunteers who are working in state after state to get his supporters selected as delegates, even those who must vote for Trump at first. Trump is just ramping up his operation, but in some states he's too late. In Virginia -- a state where Trump won the primary -- he has missed the deadlines to assemble lists of potential delegates. Cruz, however, has delegate candidates in 10 of Virginia's 11 congressional districts.Trump has done a better job of getting his delegates elected in Nevada and Michigan. Meanwhile, Marco Rubio says a contested convention should go to the only conservative remaining in the race, who he says is Ted Cruz. At his press conference yesterday, Paul Ryan called for a rule that would block anyone who hasn't run this year from being nominated, which would eliminate him as a potential candidate. But that would permit one of the 15 candidates already eliminated to be nominated. Ted Cruz is attacking Trump's dumb "The nomination is being stolen from me by my opponents who are also trying to be nominated" rallying cry. Also note, in that link, Rush Limbaugh continues to rebut Trump's claim that playing the game to beat Trump somehow constitutes "cheating" in the game. By the way, you know that guy who burned his GOP membership card? The guy who claimed that he was illegally barred from attending the state nominating caucus in Colorado? Yeah... this is becoming a pattern, but it seems that neither Trump, his on-the-ground-advisers, his delegates, and his shills like Drudge and the rest of the traffic-happy Trumpblogs, bothers to read any of the rules or do a lick of their damn homework.
This weekend Lindsey claimed he was duly elected as a delegate to the state Republican convention but had been barred from the proceedings by the powers that be to prevent him from casting a vote for Trump's slate of national delegates. Mollie Hemingway debunked that, claiming per local GOP officials that Lindsey had been elected as a delegate to his county caucus, not to the state convention, and that he'd never showed up at the county caucus to run for state delegate. He was barred from the state convention, in other words, because, er, he wasn’t a delegate to the state convention. Could that explain why Lindsey, seemingly uniquely among Trump supporters at the Colorado convention, had trouble getting his credentials? Well, no: Like I say, the narrative calls for chicanery somewhere in this process, so the new story is that Lindsey may well have missed a meeting -- but only because shadowy operatives loyal to Cruz wanted him to.Nominate me -- I'm totally unprepared and I just bullshit my way through everything. I like that type of character in Bill Murray movies, but I don't think I want a President Winger. Ben Domenech coined a claim that I really disliked when I first heard it -- he said that the Trump campaign was "identity politics for white people." I found that pretty ugly, suggesting, as it did, that the only reason to want a wall was racism. However, I am finding some truth in it. The core tenet of Identity Politics is that your own tribe is pure, and that your own tribe is oppressed, and there is always some great conspiracy of the other tribes -- the vicious, ugly tribes that want to keep you down -- who are responsible for your failings. Identity Politics is at its core simply a racially (or gender-) tinged Conspiracy Theory. All new pieces of information -- particularly information about people not wishing for you to have political power -- are simply new evidences and exemplars of the Conspiracy Theory. This guy's showing up at the wrong convention, then admitting maybe he missed a meeting, then blaming his failure to do the thing he wanted to do on The Man Just Trying to Keep Him Down, sure looks to me like a warm, sloppy embrace of the most repulsive aspects of Identity Politics -- the constant naming of scapegoats for one's shortcomings, failures, and missed opportunities. This sort of politics of resentment works, to a degree, because nothing animates people politically like the feeling that they're being unfairly treated. But like most politics of resentment, it ultimately becomes very silly and self-indulgent, as people keep upping the ante as far as their claims of oppression and tribal disrespect and shadowy conspiracies of the Out-Group to keep the virtuous members of the In-Group down. That's not to say that Trump supporters, conservatives generally, or Americans as a whole don't have good reason to feel resentment. I feel resentment, and I think a lot of that is justified. But then, of course, blacks have good reason to feel resentment at the nation -- but that doesn't mean they haven't gone off the deep end with their privilege patrols and #SafeSpaces and claims that noting Obama plays golf is a racist put-down. And that's what I think I see right here -- resentment simply feeding off itself and shitting out new resentments. Guy shows up to the wrong caucus in Colorado? Damnit, he must have been tricked and duped by those wily Ted Cruz operatives. Everyone remember when Colorado announced its convention rules? That's right -- last August. Seems to me that that should be plenty of time to read a damn two or three pages of rules and deadlines. But no; some people are eternally late with the rent money, and you know, it's always someone else's fault for that. My cousin Chicky? Yeah he was supposed to repay me some money for his alpaca farm start-up. He didn't come through for me. It's his fault the rent is late. Why don't you call Chicky and see if you can shake some money out of him? At least maybe you could get a few alpacas to tide you over. It's never our own fault. Even when it is our own fault, it's really someone else's fault -- in a deeper way. A deeper truth demonstrates that we are faultless. We're the Good Ones -- the Pure -- the Oppressed. The #Unprivileged. Definitionally, we cannot do wrong. And meanwhile the Alex Jones friendly Drudge site shits out another series of "They're all against us" headlines.
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Trump is only in this race to ensure Hillary wins. Every day convinces me of this more and more.
Posted by: Trippy64 at April 13, 2016 11:31 AM (88yVn)
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This should be ugly.
Posted by: Guy Who Says "This Should Be Ugly" About Things at April 13, 2016 11:31 AM (dciA+)
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I'm missing my Bloody Mary!
Posted by: Hillary 2016 at April 13, 2016 11:33 AM (6pzsv)
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Trump is another Obama.
Posted by: The Jackhole at April 13, 2016 11:33 AM (3mTyP)
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Drudge. Gateway Pundit, and Breitbart are all hot beds of Trump love and they are hysterical....Like they drank the Kool aid....
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:33 AM (O2RFr)
Posted by: IP at April 13, 2016 11:34 AM (aQQbl)
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Anyone but Hillary!
Posted by: Tyler Mason at April 13, 2016 11:34 AM (doMYF)
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Meanwhile, Marco Rubio says a contested convention should go to the only conservative remaining in the race, who he says is Ted Cruz.
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You seemed to have left "Thank you, Marco (Not Mario) Rubio" out of your little article there, Ace.
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Ben Domenech coined a claim that I really disliked when I first heard it -- he said that the Trump campaign was "identity politics for white people."
I found that pretty ugly, suggesting, as it did, that the only reason to want a wall was racism.
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It's not the only reason.
It's just that, oh, a great number of people who REALLY, REALLY want and agitate for the wall, are doing so not because they're REALLY just so worried about security, or concern about illegal immigration affecting jobs or American wages, or anything like that, but instead because they want to keep those brown folk out, by god. Because we need to Make (White) America Great Again (or Make America White Again, I can't decide which is the more appropriate slogan).
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You seemed to have left "Thank you, Marco (Not Mario) Rubio" out of your little article there, Ace.
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Ben Domenech coined a claim that I really disliked when I first heard it -- he said that the Trump campaign was "identity politics for white people."
I found that pretty ugly, suggesting, as it did, that the only reason to want a wall was racism.
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It's not the only reason.
It's just that, oh, a great number of people who REALLY, REALLY want and agitate for the wall, are doing so not because they're REALLY just so worried about security, or concern about illegal immigration affecting jobs or American wages, or anything like that, but instead because they want to keep those brown folk out, by god. Because we need to Make (White) America Great Again (or Make America White Again, I can't decide which is the more appropriate slogan).
Posted by: Vyce at April 13, 2016 11:34 AM (h4ZaE)
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The only reason Trump would need to secure these delegates would be in case of a 2nd vote. There won't be a 2nd vote, so spending time/money to ensure pro-Trump people were delegates when Trump saw a clear path to 1237 would have been a waste of time and dollars. And remember, Trump is self-funding, so this process of 'securing' delegates can be very expensive. It has nothing to do with Trump being 'disorganized' and everything to do with the big business, lobbyist dollars supporting the Cruz campaign and other GOP candidates, which gives them practically unlimited funds to compete at these micro-levels.
Trump is playing the big board...get to 1237 and the delegate selection process does not matter. Cruz and anti-Trumpers want to make is seem as if Trump is 'losing' by pointing this stuff out, but Trump is still winning. Will win 6 or 7 states in a row by big margins and will blow it out in California in June. Game over.
All this talk of delegates will be over.
Trump is playing the big board...get to 1237 and the delegate selection process does not matter. Cruz and anti-Trumpers want to make is seem as if Trump is 'losing' by pointing this stuff out, but Trump is still winning. Will win 6 or 7 states in a row by big margins and will blow it out in California in June. Game over.
All this talk of delegates will be over.
Posted by: K-E at April 13, 2016 11:35 AM (cqABU)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:35 AM (iQIUe)
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#Winning for losers.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at April 13, 2016 11:36 AM (NNLcy)
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I'm pretty sure we all know you don't like Trump by now Ace. Now convince me that Cruz will win on the 2nd ballot.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:36 AM (WVsWD)
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. Because we need to Make (White) America Great Again (or Make America White Again, I can't decide which is the more appropriate slogan).
Posted by: Vyce at April 13, 2016 11:34 AM (h4ZaE)
Perhaps We should like at making America America again...
Posted by: Vyce at April 13, 2016 11:34 AM (h4ZaE)
Perhaps We should like at making America America again...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:36 AM (O2RFr)
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If you go to the conventions, wear face masks, hair covering, and an ankle length disposable raincoat. Also shoe coverings.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:37 AM (iQIUe)
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like= work.... jeez not even close...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:37 AM (O2RFr)
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Question here, I've seen it both ways. Are the delegates bound by state law or by state party rules? Or does that vary from state to state?
Posted by: mov at April 13, 2016 11:38 AM (kUmUV)
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 11:38 AM (Gl74b)
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Drudge is now prominently linking a Mother Jones (!) article about Cruz's defense of a Texas statute prohibiting the sale of marital aids (i.e., dildos and vibrators). It's a dumb hit piece, even for Kevin Drum.
The prohibition was a dumb law, but Cruz was the Solicitor General of Texas. He was obligated to defend the laws of Texas in court whether he agreed with them or not. It's bad enough that dullards on the left try to tar Cruz with this, but it makes me stupid for giving Drudge the pageviews when he links it.
The prohibition was a dumb law, but Cruz was the Solicitor General of Texas. He was obligated to defend the laws of Texas in court whether he agreed with them or not. It's bad enough that dullards on the left try to tar Cruz with this, but it makes me stupid for giving Drudge the pageviews when he links it.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:38 AM (aFa2V)
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17 Hillary is so gonna trash us in the General election if it's her and Trump as the Nominees.
And She's promised to open an Office for "Immigrants" if elected..... Forget the Trump wall... If She wins it's over...
And She's promised to open an Office for "Immigrants" if elected..... Forget the Trump wall... If She wins it's over...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:39 AM (O2RFr)
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Here in VA we haven't voted on who our national delegates are yet. I will be voting for those loyal to Trump on every ballot. Not sure what exactly can be done to influence national delegates at this time.
Posted by: Beth M at April 13, 2016 11:39 AM (kiy9d)
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I've been hearing that Trump's ground game organization is poor, but then on the other hand that doesn't seem to be hurting him too much.
I actually got a robocall from the Trump campaign yesterday (I'm in NYS) which surprised me and made me wonder if he's put together some kind of GOTV operation here.
Trump had a big rally in my town a couple days ago too, as did Kasich and Sanders.
It's odd to get this much attention here in NY. Normally the GOP primary issue is decided long before our vote date comes, and the general is always ceded to the dems.
I can't remember a time when presidential hopefuls have campaigned so much here in our state.
I actually got a robocall from the Trump campaign yesterday (I'm in NYS) which surprised me and made me wonder if he's put together some kind of GOTV operation here.
Trump had a big rally in my town a couple days ago too, as did Kasich and Sanders.
It's odd to get this much attention here in NY. Normally the GOP primary issue is decided long before our vote date comes, and the general is always ceded to the dems.
I can't remember a time when presidential hopefuls have campaigned so much here in our state.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at April 13, 2016 11:40 AM (z3JYt)
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 11:40 AM (mcm0N)
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Let the flame wars begin.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 13, 2016 11:40 AM (vvmPQ)
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19 your right, so we better nominate Cruz so we at least have a fighting chance to win!
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 11:41 AM (Gl74b)
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mov,
Not that I am an expert by any means, but from what I've been reading, every state sets up the rules for delegates differently. However, the delegates a candidate 'wins' in a state MUST vote for that candidate on a first ballot. I believe that is the convention rule as well as the state rule.
Though each state may hand out their delegates differently in a primary/caucus. There are also 'unbound' delegates in some states, I am not sure which ones...and I am not sure what the process is to secure the 'unbound' delegates.
Once again, this is a meaningless worry if a candidate gets to 1237. Which Trump, and only Trump, is on track to do.
Not that I am an expert by any means, but from what I've been reading, every state sets up the rules for delegates differently. However, the delegates a candidate 'wins' in a state MUST vote for that candidate on a first ballot. I believe that is the convention rule as well as the state rule.
Though each state may hand out their delegates differently in a primary/caucus. There are also 'unbound' delegates in some states, I am not sure which ones...and I am not sure what the process is to secure the 'unbound' delegates.
Once again, this is a meaningless worry if a candidate gets to 1237. Which Trump, and only Trump, is on track to do.
Posted by: K-E at April 13, 2016 11:41 AM (cqABU)
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25th
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 11:41 AM (HeZ0H)
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o.o At this point, we must accept the idea that we, as a people, get the candidates we deserve as fact.
This five-ring circus is nothing more than our just comeuppance for the decadence and arrogance of our people as a whole. Sure, some among us will stand up and bellow "I/my family/we are nothing like the rest of this mangy lot!", but here we are, all the same.
We'd best pray as Daniel prayed, identifying ourselves with our people, and praying for them and us accordingly. We're in for a roller coaster of an election and Lord only knows what follows. The election news has become so asinine, I cannot even make a good joke about it anymore. o_o Holy cow, we're really doing this.
This five-ring circus is nothing more than our just comeuppance for the decadence and arrogance of our people as a whole. Sure, some among us will stand up and bellow "I/my family/we are nothing like the rest of this mangy lot!", but here we are, all the same.
We'd best pray as Daniel prayed, identifying ourselves with our people, and praying for them and us accordingly. We're in for a roller coaster of an election and Lord only knows what follows. The election news has become so asinine, I cannot even make a good joke about it anymore. o_o Holy cow, we're really doing this.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at April 13, 2016 11:41 AM (6JL3d)
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"It has nothing to do with Trump being 'disorganized' and everything to do with the big business, lobbyist dollars supporting the Cruz campaign and other GOP candidates, which gives them practically unlimited funds to compete at these micro-levels."
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It would be cool if Trump - Mr. Art-of-the Deal, Mr. Hire-the-Best-People, Mr. Negotiator - could figure out how to negotiate for the support of delegates.
Trump's going to renegotiate trade deals with Mexico and China? He's going to outfox Putin? The idiot can't even negotiate with county-level GOP officials, and he can't even outfox Ted Cruz.
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It would be cool if Trump - Mr. Art-of-the Deal, Mr. Hire-the-Best-People, Mr. Negotiator - could figure out how to negotiate for the support of delegates.
Trump's going to renegotiate trade deals with Mexico and China? He's going to outfox Putin? The idiot can't even negotiate with county-level GOP officials, and he can't even outfox Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:41 AM (A6sW3)
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>>>Question here, I've seen it both ways. Are the delegates bound by state law or by state party rules? Or does that vary from state to state?
I dunno, I think it varies a lot from state to state. In flordia, for example, they are bound through *three* ballots, not one. And some states send many of their delegates completely unbound, including on the first ballot (PA, for example).
Some states have elections for the delegates as their primary, as in Illinois -- the Cruz people elected there are real Cruz people, as he recruited them. Trump's too (mostly-- who knows with Trump's delegate recruitment).
But they can vote however they like.
I dunno, I think it varies a lot from state to state. In flordia, for example, they are bound through *three* ballots, not one. And some states send many of their delegates completely unbound, including on the first ballot (PA, for example).
Some states have elections for the delegates as their primary, as in Illinois -- the Cruz people elected there are real Cruz people, as he recruited them. Trump's too (mostly-- who knows with Trump's delegate recruitment).
But they can vote however they like.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:41 AM (dciA+)
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Let the flame wars begin.
I personally am too exhausted from the whole thing to fight..... I'm resigned to the fact that either way we're screwed..
I personally am too exhausted from the whole thing to fight..... I'm resigned to the fact that either way we're screwed..
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:42 AM (O2RFr)
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The more I hear and see Trump's campaign tactics, the more he looks to me like a Democrat running in the Republican primaries.
I would still vote for him over Hillary or Bernie, though.
The more I hear and see Trump's campaign tactics, the more he looks to me like a Democrat running in the Republican primaries.
I would still vote for him over Hillary or Bernie, though.
Posted by: Advo at April 13, 2016 11:42 AM (Ms4Um)
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My cousin Doobie.
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 11:42 AM (mcm0N)
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Did you see where they shut down some Greek Week activities bc a frat dared to scribble build the wall trump 2016? it was, sob, hurtful.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:42 AM (iQIUe)
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>>>It has nothing to do with Trump being 'disorganized' and everything to do with the big business, lobbyist dollars supporting the Cruz campaign and other GOP candidates, which gives them practically unlimited funds to compete at these micro-levels.
The guy with over a billion in free media advertising and $10 billon of his own money doesn't have the cash to fight these nefarious forces arrayed against him?
The guy with over a billion in free media advertising and $10 billon of his own money doesn't have the cash to fight these nefarious forces arrayed against him?
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:43 AM (dciA+)
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"I will be voting for those loyal to Trump on every ballot."
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Why? Is it because you enjoy being lied to?
That precious wall of yours will never be built. Never. Trump is lying to you. He told the truth to the New York Times and he's not letting them reveal what he said.
Don't be a sucker.
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Why? Is it because you enjoy being lied to?
That precious wall of yours will never be built. Never. Trump is lying to you. He told the truth to the New York Times and he's not letting them reveal what he said.
Don't be a sucker.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:43 AM (aFa2V)
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Delegates are bound by their State Party's rules. And that varies from State to State.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 13, 2016 11:43 AM (vvmPQ)
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We were told that there was no way any rules could or would change.
Now we're hearing the Speaker of the House calling for rules changes that would bring the clown car back.
The Speaker that didn't want the job, and got it. And who just announced that he doesn't wanna run for President.
And we wonder why trump gets any traction.
Now we're hearing the Speaker of the House calling for rules changes that would bring the clown car back.
The Speaker that didn't want the job, and got it. And who just announced that he doesn't wanna run for President.
And we wonder why trump gets any traction.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2016 11:43 AM (326rv)
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Most States require the delegates to be bound by the primary/caucus winner at least on the first vote.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 13, 2016 11:44 AM (vvmPQ)
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Democrats have a national organization, RNC organizes state by state I believe--so the delegate rules are decided by the state level party organization.
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 11:44 AM (mcm0N)
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And we wonder why trump gets any traction.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2016 11:43 AM
But who is He getting "traction" from?
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2016 11:43 AM
But who is He getting "traction" from?
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:44 AM (O2RFr)
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I'm more and more of the Trump never expected to get this far and is looking for the best way to get out of this while saving face.
He was way too knowledgeable of delegate issues in 2012 unless he had someone doing his twitter for him. If that was the case Trump should have kept him on the payroll for this year.
He was way too knowledgeable of delegate issues in 2012 unless he had someone doing his twitter for him. If that was the case Trump should have kept him on the payroll for this year.
Posted by: H Badger at April 13, 2016 11:44 AM (n/0Nw)
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"and he can't even outfox Ted Cruz. "
Then Ted should have no problem picking up those 95 Delegates then.
All hail the God-King Cruzenkhamen!!
Lets get a pyramid build for him pronto, I think a gofundme with a trillon dollar goal should do it?
I'll start off with a dollar.
Then Ted should have no problem picking up those 95 Delegates then.
All hail the God-King Cruzenkhamen!!
Lets get a pyramid build for him pronto, I think a gofundme with a trillon dollar goal should do it?
I'll start off with a dollar.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:44 AM (WVsWD)
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I left the GOP after they nominated McCain. I predicted the Romney loss.
Cruz is the first truly conservative candidate with a chance at winning since Reagan. I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
Cruz is the first truly conservative candidate with a chance at winning since Reagan. I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (Gl74b)
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Obama admin considers killing off lowest level of classification
http://tinyurl.com/zy6gndg
The bitch is going to walk.
Obama is seeing to that.
http://tinyurl.com/zy6gndg
The bitch is going to walk.
Obama is seeing to that.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (rlfds)
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You get the impression that Trump and Team just expected to keep winning and winning and power through to the convention with no back-up plan should trouble occur.
No use whining now.
No use whining now.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (LA7Cm)
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"The idiot can't even negotiate with county-level GOP officials, and he can't even outfox Ted Cruz."
Maybe you don't get it...if you have millions and millions of dollars to spend given to you by lobbyists and big donors, you can hire a LOT of people to go into those 'county-level' meetings. If you are self-funding, you need to be judicious about how you spend your $$. If you are WINNING the delegate count and see a path to 1237, why in the heck would you spend possibly MILLIONS of your own dollars to secure delegates that don't need securing?
It is called budgeting and making wise monetary choices. I am sure if Trump took a bunch of donor money, he would also have this big 'ground game' we keep hearing about (that doesn't seem to be helping Cruz win over voters very much). But since Trump is using all of his own cash, he is wisely spending it on getting to 1237.
Maybe you don't get it...if you have millions and millions of dollars to spend given to you by lobbyists and big donors, you can hire a LOT of people to go into those 'county-level' meetings. If you are self-funding, you need to be judicious about how you spend your $$. If you are WINNING the delegate count and see a path to 1237, why in the heck would you spend possibly MILLIONS of your own dollars to secure delegates that don't need securing?
It is called budgeting and making wise monetary choices. I am sure if Trump took a bunch of donor money, he would also have this big 'ground game' we keep hearing about (that doesn't seem to be helping Cruz win over voters very much). But since Trump is using all of his own cash, he is wisely spending it on getting to 1237.
Posted by: K-E at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (cqABU)
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*shovels a handful of live grenades into the piranha barrel before they wake up*
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (4DirM)
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5 Drudge. Gateway Pundit, and Breitbart are all hot beds of Trump love and they are hysterical....Like they drank the Kool aid....
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:33 AM (O2RFr)
And here and at Hot Air it's anti-Trump all day every day (although at least here on the weekends it isn't).
Very little middle ground this time around. Sides have been chosen and are being vigorously championed.
Don't know how it's going to play out, but my prediction is pain with a side order of violence. The convention is going to be a shit show what with the turmoil inside while the leftards show up to riot outside.
I'd say it's a popcorn moment, but it isn't really. It's actually frightening. I'd far rather watch this unfold from either the future or from another planet.
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:33 AM (O2RFr)
And here and at Hot Air it's anti-Trump all day every day (although at least here on the weekends it isn't).
Very little middle ground this time around. Sides have been chosen and are being vigorously championed.
Don't know how it's going to play out, but my prediction is pain with a side order of violence. The convention is going to be a shit show what with the turmoil inside while the leftards show up to riot outside.
I'd say it's a popcorn moment, but it isn't really. It's actually frightening. I'd far rather watch this unfold from either the future or from another planet.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (4ErVI)
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30 I'm resigned to the fact that either way we're screwed..
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:42 AM (O2RFr)
I said that as soon as we saw who was running in the primary.
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:42 AM (O2RFr)
I said that as soon as we saw who was running in the primary.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (vvmPQ)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 11:46 AM (rlfds)
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Wait, I'm confused. Is Ace supporting this Trump fella or not? Don't sugar coat it, tell me how you really feel!
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 11:46 AM (10hEu)
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 11:46 AM (aRUb8)
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I'd say it's a popcorn moment, but it isn't really. It's actually frightening. I'd far rather watch this unfold from either the future or from another planet.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (4ErVI)
Me too...
I'd say it's a popcorn moment, but it isn't really. It's actually frightening. I'd far rather watch this unfold from either the future or from another planet.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (4ErVI)
Me too...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:46 AM (O2RFr)
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I read that the Albany Bus Racists rejected a plea bargain and demanded a trial. That's nuts.
I read that the Albany Bus Racists rejected a plea bargain and demanded a trial. That's nuts.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:46 AM (iQIUe)
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Trump is what happens when money talks and bullshit walks.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 11:47 AM (Nwg0u)
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I used to check Drudge several times a day. I love the odd, off-the-wall stories he links. But, yeah, haven't bothered checking in for several weeks.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 13, 2016 11:47 AM (VAsIq)
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I'm pretty sure we all know you don't like Trump by now Ace. Now convince me that Cruz will win on the 2nd ballot.
Fuck that. Convince me that Cruz will win in the general.
Because I can guarantee that, whether it be against Scankles, Grandpa Simpson or the Next Historic First, Cruz will be beaten so badly even Mondale would say, "ow, my balls!"
I'm pretty sure we all know you don't like Trump by now Ace. Now convince me that Cruz will win on the 2nd ballot.
Fuck that. Convince me that Cruz will win in the general.
Because I can guarantee that, whether it be against Scankles, Grandpa Simpson or the Next Historic First, Cruz will be beaten so badly even Mondale would say, "ow, my balls!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (X6fMO)
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And we're going to have the best people. We're going to have the best people and we're going to make some really great deals.
Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (UzPAd)
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What really pisses me off about this election is the fact that the Democrats are running two communists for their nominee, one an idiot and the other an unindicted felon and pathological liar.
The Republicans should be able to win this in a cakewalk. Instead we have nobody running who can stop themselves from handing it back to the Democrats through stupidity and simple bad politics.
The Republicans should be able to win this in a cakewalk. Instead we have nobody running who can stop themselves from handing it back to the Democrats through stupidity and simple bad politics.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (vvmPQ)
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Funny how the guy bragging about how he'd "fight for us" is running a lazy, incompetent campaign on the cheap, depleting the enormous advantages that free media coverage has given him in spite of his habit of cramming his foot in his mouth up to the hip every other time he opens his mouth. Yeah, that guy is a *real* winner.
Posted by: M Scott Eiland at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (qQNVJ)
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Apropos might last (only) comment in the last thread ( wishing for a day of no sectarian warfare over this election : that's unreasonable, and I apologize for coming off like a whiny bitch scold. It's all just getting to me, but that's my problem and nobody else's.
Posted by: kraken at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (sdxPm)
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>>>t is called budgeting and making wise monetary choices. I am sure if Trump took a bunch of donor money, he would also have this big 'ground game' we keep hearing about (that doesn't seem to be helping Cruz win over voters very much). But since Trump is using all of his own cash, he is wisely spending it on getting to 1237.
he's not using his own cash, he's raised 7 million and loaned his campaign 17 million. the important difference between a loan and simply paying for the campaign yourself is that a loan can be repaid back to yourself later with funds gotten from fundraising from other people.
"Donald Trump funds his own campaign" is a lie and always has been.
he's not using his own cash, he's raised 7 million and loaned his campaign 17 million. the important difference between a loan and simply paying for the campaign yourself is that a loan can be repaid back to yourself later with funds gotten from fundraising from other people.
"Donald Trump funds his own campaign" is a lie and always has been.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (dciA+)
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@46
So like many of his failed business deals he has no back up plan, nor the means to enact one.
Yeah.. Not the man I want in the White House.
So like many of his failed business deals he has no back up plan, nor the means to enact one.
Yeah.. Not the man I want in the White House.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 11:49 AM (Gl74b)
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"And we're going to have the best people. We're going to have the best people and we're going to make some really great deals."
Two words: Paul Manafort.
Two words: Paul Manafort.
Posted by: K-E at April 13, 2016 11:49 AM (cqABU)
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>>It is called budgeting and making wise monetary choices
It is called not knowing the rules of the game you are playing. Trump arrogantly thought he could do things his way and be the force of his awesomeness he would get the nomination. He was wrong and now he and lots of his supporters are trying to find anyone to blame but the person responsible, Trump.
It is called not knowing the rules of the game you are playing. Trump arrogantly thought he could do things his way and be the force of his awesomeness he would get the nomination. He was wrong and now he and lots of his supporters are trying to find anyone to blame but the person responsible, Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2016 11:49 AM (/tuJf)
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Because I can guarantee that, whether it be against Scankles, Grandpa Simpson or the Next Historic First, Cruz will be beaten so badly even Mondale would say, "ow, my balls!"
In My opinion the same can be said for Trump.... And no none of Us should count on Hillary! being indicted... Ain't gonna happen...
Because I can guarantee that, whether it be against Scankles, Grandpa Simpson or the Next Historic First, Cruz will be beaten so badly even Mondale would say, "ow, my balls!"
In My opinion the same can be said for Trump.... And no none of Us should count on Hillary! being indicted... Ain't gonna happen...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:49 AM (O2RFr)
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But since Trump is using all of his own cash, he is wasting it on falling short of 1237.
Posted by: K-E
FIFY
Posted by: K-E
FIFY
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 13, 2016 11:49 AM (VAsIq)
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After watching Fred! hit the trail like a wet fart, it's nice to have a devious sneaky sonofabitch* like Lyin' Ted championing my cause for once. Imagine the butthurt when he plays his underhanded game against America's enemies, foreign and domestic.
*devious sneaky sonofabitch = well-prepared, strategic, disciplined.
*devious sneaky sonofabitch = well-prepared, strategic, disciplined.
Posted by: Bivalve Curious at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (S35jl)
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SMFH, it depends upon the definition of 'missed' I guess.
Monday late afternoon as I was leaving writers group, the bottom of the clouds fell out and it rained so hard I could barely see ten feet while driving. Then pellets of tiny hail joined in to machine-gun my car. So pulled into a parking lot, ran from the car only to get soaked like a drowned rat, and ate dinner while while waiting the storm out.
Monday late afternoon as I was leaving writers group, the bottom of the clouds fell out and it rained so hard I could barely see ten feet while driving. Then pellets of tiny hail joined in to machine-gun my car. So pulled into a parking lot, ran from the car only to get soaked like a drowned rat, and ate dinner while while waiting the storm out.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (4DirM)
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might= my.
Posted by: kraken at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (sdxPm)
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>>> "And we're going to have the best people. We're going to have the best people and we're going to make some really great deals."
Two words: Paul Manafort.
...
oh you mean THE paul manafort?!?!!
Two words: Paul Manafort.
...
oh you mean THE paul manafort?!?!!
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (dciA+)
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"But, yeah, haven't bothered checking in for several weeks."
Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (WVsWD)
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They need to ask the candidates to recite their mom's chop suey recipe. It's the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
They need to ask the candidates to recite their mom's chop suey recipe. It's the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (iQIUe)
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Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 11:45 AM (4ErVI)
Being anti Trump is being pro sanity and rational thought, imo. That IS the middle ground..pointing out a con man is nothing but being anti con man. That seems a pretty middle of the road position to take.
Being anti Trump is being pro sanity and rational thought, imo. That IS the middle ground..pointing out a con man is nothing but being anti con man. That seems a pretty middle of the road position to take.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (aRUb8)
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You know you're over the target when you're taking flak from the GOPe/globalists/and yes, the uninformed.
Been around here over 8 years and the "electable/globalists" have always been pushed by the powers that be.
And the one, one, person who loves America and hates corruption on both sides of the isle received nothing but disdain.
Didn't she.
Been around here over 8 years and the "electable/globalists" have always been pushed by the powers that be.
And the one, one, person who loves America and hates corruption on both sides of the isle received nothing but disdain.
Didn't she.
Posted by: teej at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (YtsCi)
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (rlfds)
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"identity politics for white people."
You went there.
Trump seems random. Perhaps he is. Or maybe not.
His complaint about fairness in Colorado is not based on consistency or ideology concerns.
I think it is based on what resonates with people who power his campaign.
This site has a lot of people who participate who are not thrilled with the GOP, with the process, etc. Why does Iowa go first? Every time? Why were the primaries accelerated? Why were there closed primaries here and open ones there? All of those things were created to make an environment for a Bush to come in and sweep. It did not happen that way.
All of that, to various and sundry people, seems "unfair." Countering that feeling of unfairness by saying "well you just aren't smart enough to get the rules, are you?" just compounds the problem.
I get it, this isn't Nam, there are rules. People need to follow them. But its kind of hard to say vote for me because I am an outsider and then say, well, I am ALSO a super insider!
This isn't an argument that competence in the mechanics doesn't matter. Of course it does, and often noted, it is something Trump claims is a strength.
But - and this is important - there are voters for whom that failure to be the ultimate insider mechanic at political intrigue
is a positive, not a negative.
It is why Trump is the leading candidate even today. Not getting that is not getting the whole Trump campaign, something that everyone has missed. I sure did. I don't know how many Walker-Haley 2016 posts I made from 2012 on, but they all seem pretty quaint.
Colorado was not cheating, but it certainly had the appearance of it with the football spiking of "We stopped Trump"
Also I heard on the news that Trump says the RNC is conspiring against him - it was reported incredulously, can you believe what he is saying? - as if #NeverTrump simply doesn't exist.
You went there.
Trump seems random. Perhaps he is. Or maybe not.
His complaint about fairness in Colorado is not based on consistency or ideology concerns.
I think it is based on what resonates with people who power his campaign.
This site has a lot of people who participate who are not thrilled with the GOP, with the process, etc. Why does Iowa go first? Every time? Why were the primaries accelerated? Why were there closed primaries here and open ones there? All of those things were created to make an environment for a Bush to come in and sweep. It did not happen that way.
All of that, to various and sundry people, seems "unfair." Countering that feeling of unfairness by saying "well you just aren't smart enough to get the rules, are you?" just compounds the problem.
I get it, this isn't Nam, there are rules. People need to follow them. But its kind of hard to say vote for me because I am an outsider and then say, well, I am ALSO a super insider!
This isn't an argument that competence in the mechanics doesn't matter. Of course it does, and often noted, it is something Trump claims is a strength.
But - and this is important - there are voters for whom that failure to be the ultimate insider mechanic at political intrigue
is a positive, not a negative.
It is why Trump is the leading candidate even today. Not getting that is not getting the whole Trump campaign, something that everyone has missed. I sure did. I don't know how many Walker-Haley 2016 posts I made from 2012 on, but they all seem pretty quaint.
Colorado was not cheating, but it certainly had the appearance of it with the football spiking of "We stopped Trump"
Also I heard on the news that Trump says the RNC is conspiring against him - it was reported incredulously, can you believe what he is saying? - as if #NeverTrump simply doesn't exist.
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (2Ocf1)
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Cruz has been assimilated by the Gorb.
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (MQEz6)
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I gave up on Drudge when I got the blue-screen-of-death (or something that approximated it) from clicking on one of the links there. When I rebooted, everything came back to life but I only needed one scare of that type to move me away from there--there are plenty of other news aggregators out there.
Posted by: Crusader at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (ewSN2)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (FkBIv)
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It's The System!!
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at April 13, 2016 11:52 AM (evdj2)
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Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
It's not just that He's "picked" Trump over Cruz, it's the sleazy slimy stories He's been running....
Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
It's not just that He's "picked" Trump over Cruz, it's the sleazy slimy stories He's been running....
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:52 AM (O2RFr)
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Imagine the vicious tweets and complaining about not playing fair a President Trump would make when Putin annexes the Ukraine.
Posted by: brak at April 13, 2016 11:52 AM (MJuTN)
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"he's not using his own cash, he's raised 7 million and loaned his
campaign 17 million. the important difference between a loan and simply
paying for the campaign yourself is that a loan can be repaid back to
yourself later with funds gotten from fundraising from other people."
Please tell me how much money Cruz has raised and from whom? Tell me how many PACs are running anti-Trump and/or pro-Cruz ads and events? And who is funding those PACs?
You actually want to compare what Trump is doing to Cruz? Cruz is bought and paid for by GOP donors and lobbyists. In fact, Cruz just invited wall street bankers, lawyers and traders to an event in NYC. If Cruz were really all about his supporters, why isn't he running a campaign similar to Bernie Sanders...where he raises money from his actual supporters, rather than lobbyists, GOP insiders, etc.?
Trump IS self-funding b/c he is NOT taking money from lobbyists and big donors.
campaign 17 million. the important difference between a loan and simply
paying for the campaign yourself is that a loan can be repaid back to
yourself later with funds gotten from fundraising from other people."
Please tell me how much money Cruz has raised and from whom? Tell me how many PACs are running anti-Trump and/or pro-Cruz ads and events? And who is funding those PACs?
You actually want to compare what Trump is doing to Cruz? Cruz is bought and paid for by GOP donors and lobbyists. In fact, Cruz just invited wall street bankers, lawyers and traders to an event in NYC. If Cruz were really all about his supporters, why isn't he running a campaign similar to Bernie Sanders...where he raises money from his actual supporters, rather than lobbyists, GOP insiders, etc.?
Trump IS self-funding b/c he is NOT taking money from lobbyists and big donors.
Posted by: K-E at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (cqABU)
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Hillary is so gonna trash us in the General election if it's her and Trump as the Nominees.
And She's promised to open an Office for "Immigrants" if elected..... Forget the Trump wall... If She wins it's over...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:39 AM (O2RFr)
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I think that will sink Hillary if she's the nom. I don't think she will be.
But visualize nominee Biden. A little weepy. "Beau made me promise we would take care of these people. He said, 'Dad, from where I am now, we're all the same. All the same.'"
It might work.
Hillary is so gonna trash us in the General election if it's her and Trump as the Nominees.
And She's promised to open an Office for "Immigrants" if elected..... Forget the Trump wall... If She wins it's over...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:39 AM (O2RFr)
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I think that will sink Hillary if she's the nom. I don't think she will be.
But visualize nominee Biden. A little weepy. "Beau made me promise we would take care of these people. He said, 'Dad, from where I am now, we're all the same. All the same.'"
It might work.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (pC96u)
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Being anti Trump is being pro sanity and rational thought, imo. That IS the middle ground..pointing out a con man is nothing but being anti con man. That seems a pretty middle of the road position to take.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (aRUb
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So people who disagree with you are insane, irrational, and scamsters?? Did you not read the comments specifically directed at you yesterday in one of the threads??
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (aRUb
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So people who disagree with you are insane, irrational, and scamsters?? Did you not read the comments specifically directed at you yesterday in one of the threads??
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (iQIUe)
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Eh, you know how much it costs to feed alpacas? The damn things eat like horses!
Posted by: Cousin Chicky at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (v9gSJ)
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Damn Anna.
It least it wasn't softball-sized hail.
Amazing what giant balls of ice will do.
Gonna be a soggy weekend here.
It least it wasn't softball-sized hail.
Amazing what giant balls of ice will do.
Gonna be a soggy weekend here.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (rlfds)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 13, 2016 11:54 AM (LA7Cm)
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>>Very little middle ground this time around. Sides have been chosen and are being vigorously championed.
It's like this every election season. Hell, last time there were co-bloggers brought in to champion whichever not Romney candidate was the flavor of the day and rdbrewer was doing his best to insure every single article in the sidebar was not Romney.
It's all about who's ox is being gored.
It's like this every election season. Hell, last time there were co-bloggers brought in to champion whichever not Romney candidate was the flavor of the day and rdbrewer was doing his best to insure every single article in the sidebar was not Romney.
It's all about who's ox is being gored.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2016 11:54 AM (/tuJf)
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The bitch is going to walk.
Was there ever any doubt?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (FkBIv)
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For me, no.
For others, well...
Was there ever any doubt?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (FkBIv)
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For me, no.
For others, well...
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 11:54 AM (rlfds)
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Donald Trump, all talk and no show.
Best. Fvcking. People. My a$$
He couldn't even do the necessary homework. But, he'll do fabulous deals and cut waste, fraud & abuse. The man is a laughing stock.
Best. Fvcking. People. My a$$
He couldn't even do the necessary homework. But, he'll do fabulous deals and cut waste, fraud & abuse. The man is a laughing stock.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (voOPb)
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The problem with grievance is that legitimate beefs often spawn stupid whining and just plain power plays.
The other thing, of course, is that if one side gets all the play, and nobody defends the other--even if it has legitimate points and concerns--that other side eventually decides that, if those are the rules by which the game is played, then it's time to play by them. Even if the whole thing burns.
I smell smoke.
It's burning.
The other thing, of course, is that if one side gets all the play, and nobody defends the other--even if it has legitimate points and concerns--that other side eventually decides that, if those are the rules by which the game is played, then it's time to play by them. Even if the whole thing burns.
I smell smoke.
It's burning.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (9krrF)
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79 I gave up on Drudge when I got the blue-screen-of-death (or something that approximated it) from clicking on one of the links there. When I rebooted, everything came back to life but I only needed one scare of that type to move me away from there--there are plenty of other news aggregators out there.
Posted by: Crusader at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (ewSN2)
Did this happen recently? Yesterday I got a blue screen of death but rebooting the computer made it run through this convoluted thing that looked like it was repairing the hard drive. Working now but I was bummed that I'd have to buy a new hard drive. I can't remember if I was on Drudge, but I might have been.
Posted by: Crusader at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (ewSN2)
Did this happen recently? Yesterday I got a blue screen of death but rebooting the computer made it run through this convoluted thing that looked like it was repairing the hard drive. Working now but I was bummed that I'd have to buy a new hard drive. I can't remember if I was on Drudge, but I might have been.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (4ErVI)
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Hillary! has a sure lock... where have I heard that before? Oh yeah when Gaylord finally managed to win against an opponent. Mrs. Inevitable did a Wylie Coyote there.
Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (4DirM)
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Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (WVsWD)
Sounds reasonable to me.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (WVsWD)
Sounds reasonable to me.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (aRUb8)
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But since Trump is using all of his own cash, he is wisely spending it on getting to 1237.
Okay, you go with that. That's why he can't read rules. He's too busy eeking out a budget. What amazing fiscal restraint.
Okay, you go with that. That's why he can't read rules. He's too busy eeking out a budget. What amazing fiscal restraint.
Posted by: no good deed at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (HeZ0H)
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>>>"But, yeah, haven't bothered checking in for several weeks."
Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
...
um... good point! I was all hot to stop reading Drudge until you pointed out that others could play the same game, and that might not be so good for me.
Something I didn't consider. I don't consider many things. I'm kinda dumb.
Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
...
um... good point! I was all hot to stop reading Drudge until you pointed out that others could play the same game, and that might not be so good for me.
Something I didn't consider. I don't consider many things. I'm kinda dumb.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (dciA+)
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"It's not just that He's "picked" Trump over Cruz, it's the sleazy slimy stories He's been running.... "
Has he been writing these sleezy, slimy stories or just linking them?
Still your choice and I wont knock you for it. Just disagree with it. Drudge still links to stuff you won't get normally.
Other news aggregators have made choices too. Insty is also a cruz guy RWN? Don't know. I gave up on them after they changed theier site again .
Has he been writing these sleezy, slimy stories or just linking them?
Still your choice and I wont knock you for it. Just disagree with it. Drudge still links to stuff you won't get normally.
Other news aggregators have made choices too. Insty is also a cruz guy RWN? Don't know. I gave up on them after they changed theier site again .
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (WVsWD)
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"But, yeah, haven't bothered checking in for several weeks."
Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (WVsWD)
No... because he is hysterical in his Trump support. So much so that he lies in his headlines (like saying "the election" had been canceled in Colorado which is utter bullshit but riled Trump supporters up to the point that some of them started sending death threats to Colorado GOP officials).
"But, yeah, haven't bothered checking in for several weeks."
Why? Because Drudge has chosen Trump over Cruz?
Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (WVsWD)
No... because he is hysterical in his Trump support. So much so that he lies in his headlines (like saying "the election" had been canceled in Colorado which is utter bullshit but riled Trump supporters up to the point that some of them started sending death threats to Colorado GOP officials).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (3JA/M)
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Fuck that. Convince me that Cruz will win in the general.
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RealClearPolitics composite:
Clinton vs Cruz: Clinton up less than three.
Clinton vs Trump: Clinton up more than ten.
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RealClearPolitics composite:
Clinton vs Cruz: Clinton up less than three.
Clinton vs Trump: Clinton up more than ten.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (A6sW3)
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5 Drudge. Gateway Pundit, and Breitbart are all hot beds of Trump love and they are hysterical....Like they drank the Kool aid....
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:33 AM (O2RF
The dude at Gateway Pundit needs one of those fashionable white sport coats. You know, the one with long sleeves that tie behind the back.
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:33 AM (O2RF
The dude at Gateway Pundit needs one of those fashionable white sport coats. You know, the one with long sleeves that tie behind the back.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (voOPb)
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Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (4DirM)
Anna always the voice of reason... Thanks...
Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (4DirM)
Anna always the voice of reason... Thanks...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (O2RFr)
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oh you mean THE paul manafort?!?!!
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Could someone give some some edumacashun on Manafort? From what I know, he has been Roger Stone's business partner for quite a few years.
ps -- What is it with the weird hair? Pompadors, etc.
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Could someone give some some edumacashun on Manafort? From what I know, he has been Roger Stone's business partner for quite a few years.
ps -- What is it with the weird hair? Pompadors, etc.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (MIKMs)
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This is the whine and cheesy election.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 11:57 AM (Nwg0u)
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SMFH, giant balls of ice. Aren't many of us praying for such a Hot Fudge Sundae on Tuesdae with SMOD?
Still raining here. But time for lunch. Hope things go well for you.
Still raining here. But time for lunch. Hope things go well for you.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:57 AM (4DirM)
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This campaign season is a lesson in the art of the sale to be sure. A good salesman will show you the one thing about the car/house whatever that touches your emotions and then you yourself will dismiss every negative thing he duly tells you about it to comply with law, or his personal ethics, and you will especially dismiss any negatives your buddy might point out if he thinks you'd get more bang for your buck with a different model or brand.
"I don't care that my dream car is a gas hog, all the cars that would have the performance I want will be, and those cars that get better milage or have better cornering have sacrificed power or acceleration to get that, I just know they have"
"I don't care that my dream car is a gas hog, all the cars that would have the performance I want will be, and those cars that get better milage or have better cornering have sacrificed power or acceleration to get that, I just know they have"
Posted by: PaleRider at April 13, 2016 11:57 AM (3kUGE)
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um... good point! I was all hot to stop reading
Drudge until you pointed out that others could play the same game, and
that might not be so good for me.
Something I didn't consider. I don't consider many things. I'm kinda dumb.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (dciA+)
Difference is you don't lie in your headlines like Drudge has been.
Drudge until you pointed out that others could play the same game, and
that might not be so good for me.
Something I didn't consider. I don't consider many things. I'm kinda dumb.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (dciA+)
Difference is you don't lie in your headlines like Drudge has been.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 11:57 AM (3JA/M)
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 11:57 AM (nbrY/)
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Paul Manafort almost makes Trump's hair creation look--reasonable.
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 11:57 AM (mcm0N)
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>>>73
They need to ask the candidates to recite their mom's chop suey recipe. It's the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (iQIUe)
!!!
They need to ask the candidates to recite their mom's chop suey recipe. It's the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:50 AM (iQIUe)
!!!
Posted by: m at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (S/1cF)
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The dude at Gateway Pundit needs one of those fashionable white sport coats. You know, the one with long sleeves that tie behind the back.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (voOPb)
Years ago I had that site bookmarked, but not for long because I quickly noticed he was putting up stuff that was blatantly false. Not once or twice, but often. Removed.
The dude at Gateway Pundit needs one of those fashionable white sport coats. You know, the one with long sleeves that tie behind the back.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (voOPb)
Years ago I had that site bookmarked, but not for long because I quickly noticed he was putting up stuff that was blatantly false. Not once or twice, but often. Removed.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (iQIUe)
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Cruz is a club the gope is using against Trump.
After Trump is gone Cruz will be betrayed.
It is their plan.
Cruz joined with the gope because he had no choice: Trump was clobbering him.
After Trump is gone Cruz will be betrayed.
It is their plan.
Cruz joined with the gope because he had no choice: Trump was clobbering him.
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (MQEz6)
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So can anyone recommend a good Drudge aggregator replacement?
I took him off my hotlist and just stopped going- I think it was Malkin who pointed out where he had a headline condemning Cruz.. followed by one praising Trump for the same thing.
After Breitbart demonstrated the depth of their commitment to journalism.. but I discovered i could live without them.
I took him off my hotlist and just stopped going- I think it was Malkin who pointed out where he had a headline condemning Cruz.. followed by one praising Trump for the same thing.
After Breitbart demonstrated the depth of their commitment to journalism.. but I discovered i could live without them.
Posted by: HowardDevore at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (Dvsvs)
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Convince me that Cruz will win in the general.
Because I can guarantee that, whether it be against Scankles, Grandpa Simpson or the Next Historic First, Cruz will be beaten so badly even Mondale would say, "ow, my balls!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (X6fMO)
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Now I'm imagining #85 with Cruz vs Biden. I'm not encouraged.
Convince me that Cruz will win in the general.
Because I can guarantee that, whether it be against Scankles, Grandpa Simpson or the Next Historic First, Cruz will be beaten so badly even Mondale would say, "ow, my balls!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 11:48 AM (X6fMO)
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Now I'm imagining #85 with Cruz vs Biden. I'm not encouraged.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (pC96u)
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Meanwhile, Cruz's argument to vote for him seems to echo the last two presidential elections- "vote for me, because the other guy is so terrible".
And in the primary, it apparently has some extra pizazz- "and he sucks at the delegate game...guffaw! high-five!
But vote for Cruz. He's the "constitutional conservative", which means shit to most of the voting public.
And in the primary, it apparently has some extra pizazz- "and he sucks at the delegate game...guffaw! high-five!
But vote for Cruz. He's the "constitutional conservative", which means shit to most of the voting public.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (O0lVq)
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Hillary is so gonna trash us in the General election if it's her and Trump as the Nominees
Right. Because if there is a Republican candidate who isn't Trump. she and the Democrats will play all nicey-nice.
We should promote someone electable and non-threatening. Someone like Romney. Or McCain.
Right. Because if there is a Republican candidate who isn't Trump. she and the Democrats will play all nicey-nice.
We should promote someone electable and non-threatening. Someone like Romney. Or McCain.
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (2Ocf1)
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Difference is you don't lie in your headlines like Drudge has been.
Or link to Alex Jones like a crack-fueled monkey.
Or link to Alex Jones like a crack-fueled monkey.
Posted by: no good deed at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (GgxVX)
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I gave up on Drudge when I got the blue-screen-of-death (or something that approximated it) from clicking on one of the links there. When I rebooted, everything came back to life but I only needed one scare of that type to move me away from there--there are plenty of other news aggregators out there.
I hate the every three second screen refresh. Gets irritating when you are trying to scroll down the links and the page refreshes. And it doesn't matter the platform. PC, iphone, tablet, etc.
I hate the every three second screen refresh. Gets irritating when you are trying to scroll down the links and the page refreshes. And it doesn't matter the platform. PC, iphone, tablet, etc.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (4dbPD)
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Paul Manafort looks like a lost extra from Scottish Gumbas.
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (mcm0N)
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Wait a minute...
When a bio-mechanical cat-girl refugee from a crime ridden environmental disaster anime is called a 'voice of reason,'
"Game over man!!"
When a bio-mechanical cat-girl refugee from a crime ridden environmental disaster anime is called a 'voice of reason,'
"Game over man!!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (4DirM)
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All I want is a Trump/Cruz debate at a contested convention.
I would venture a guess that Trump would refuse since it would be the first time he'd actually have to articulate his platform in some way shape or form.
No Debate - No nomination
I would venture a guess that Trump would refuse since it would be the first time he'd actually have to articulate his platform in some way shape or form.
No Debate - No nomination
Posted by: H Badger at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (n/0Nw)
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>>>"It's not just that He's "picked" Trump over Cruz, it's the sleazy slimy stories He's been running.... "
Has he been writing these sleezy, slimy stories or just linking them?
...
He's been giving them the ALL CAPS RED FONT!! treatment.
frankly, that's all Drudge had ever been good for: Yelling in all caps.
He's missed an awful lot of big important stories. Out of laziness or who knows.
Has he been writing these sleezy, slimy stories or just linking them?
...
He's been giving them the ALL CAPS RED FONT!! treatment.
frankly, that's all Drudge had ever been good for: Yelling in all caps.
He's missed an awful lot of big important stories. Out of laziness or who knows.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (dciA+)
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Trump guys, what would it take for some of you to admit that your guy has been woefully disorganized when that this doesn't speak well to his promise to hire only the best. This is quite the Fiasco.
It is not a conspiracy against him, unless by conspiracy you mean setting up rules that other candidates and their people bothered to learn about. 1 of Trump's big selling points has really been called into question here.
Flying by the seat of your pants works for only so long. This really reminds me of the Fable of The Hare and The Tortoise.
It is not a conspiracy against him, unless by conspiracy you mean setting up rules that other candidates and their people bothered to learn about. 1 of Trump's big selling points has really been called into question here.
Flying by the seat of your pants works for only so long. This really reminds me of the Fable of The Hare and The Tortoise.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (jmIQu)
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"It is called budgeting and making wise monetary choices. I am sure if Trump took a bunch of donor money, he would also have this big 'ground game' we keep hearing about "
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Ah, the "I meant to do that" defense! Trump's not missing deadlines because he's incompetent; he's doing it because it's part of his seven-dimensional chess strategy.
That might make sense if Trump's people weren't basically coming out and saying "whoops, we goofed."
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Ah, the "I meant to do that" defense! Trump's not missing deadlines because he's incompetent; he's doing it because it's part of his seven-dimensional chess strategy.
That might make sense if Trump's people weren't basically coming out and saying "whoops, we goofed."
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (26zxJ)
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So far, so good, Anna.
About to make some quesadillas with some leftover pulled pork I made the other night.
BTW, I'm holding out for the Yellowstone caldera to lose its shit. Getting pummeled by softball-sized ice cubes, not so much.
About to make some quesadillas with some leftover pulled pork I made the other night.
BTW, I'm holding out for the Yellowstone caldera to lose its shit. Getting pummeled by softball-sized ice cubes, not so much.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (rlfds)
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You actually want to compare what Trump is doing to Cruz? Cruz is bought and paid for by GOP donors and lobbyists. In fact, Cruz just invited wall street bankers, lawyers and traders to an event in NYC.
_________
All politicians have to raise money. So Cruz is not a multi millionaire. So what it makes home more like me.
You actually want to compare what Trump is doing to Cruz? Cruz is bought and paid for by GOP donors and lobbyists. In fact, Cruz just invited wall street bankers, lawyers and traders to an event in NYC.
_________
All politicians have to raise money. So Cruz is not a multi millionaire. So what it makes home more like me.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (Gl74b)
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But then, of course, blacks have good reason to feel resentment at the nation --
No, they don't. The most fortunate blacks in the world are the ones who were lucky enough to be born in America, no matter how they got here. I'm glad that my great grandparents were driven out of Russia by pogroms and managed to end up in America.
No, they don't. The most fortunate blacks in the world are the ones who were lucky enough to be born in America, no matter how they got here. I'm glad that my great grandparents were driven out of Russia by pogroms and managed to end up in America.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (zc3Db)
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Like I'm going to quit reading Ace because he doesn't support my guy. I don't think I agree with that but hey, It's your choice.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois
I've mostly given up on reading the comments on political threads--too much anger directed at friends.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois
I've mostly given up on reading the comments on political threads--too much anger directed at friends.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (VAsIq)
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If this Trump fellow was doing anything, any-thing right the race would have been over weeks ago.
Posted by: Meremortal at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (3myMJ)
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Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Sounds like a poem.
Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Sounds like a poem.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (FkBIv)
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Drudge links to Infowars for cripes sake.
Or his intern does. I think he went into retirement with his fa- ha- Ann Coulter.
Or his intern does. I think he went into retirement with his fa- ha- Ann Coulter.
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (mcm0N)
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ps -- What is it with the weird hair? Pompadors, etc.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (MIKMs)
I'm not saying its aliens.
But its aliens!
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (MIKMs)
I'm not saying its aliens.
But its aliens!
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (2Ocf1)
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RealClearPolitics composite:
Clinton vs Cruz: Clinton up less than three.
Clinton vs Trump: Clinton up more than ten.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (A6sW3)
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Right now none of those candidates focuses on the other, so I have a hard time thinking those numbers mean anything at all.
But it may be true that the "elect Cruz" pitches often start with "Hillary gets indicted" and go on from there.
Clinton vs Cruz: Clinton up less than three.
Clinton vs Trump: Clinton up more than ten.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (A6sW3)
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Right now none of those candidates focuses on the other, so I have a hard time thinking those numbers mean anything at all.
But it may be true that the "elect Cruz" pitches often start with "Hillary gets indicted" and go on from there.
Posted by: MTF at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (/m8T6)
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Welcome back, y'all!
Posted by: GOPe at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (RcpcZ)
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So people who disagree with you are insane,
irrational, and scamsters?? Did you not read the comments specifically
directed at you yesterday in one of the threads??
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (iQIUe)
No. You misunderstood my position.I'm pointing out that TRUMP is a scammer, insane and irrational.It has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone disagreeing with me on anything.The people who blindly support Trump, are, in the exact same way as the '08 '12 Obamatrons, brainwashed, willfully blind, or agenda driven.Just my opinion, others may feel differently.
irrational, and scamsters?? Did you not read the comments specifically
directed at you yesterday in one of the threads??
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (iQIUe)
No. You misunderstood my position.I'm pointing out that TRUMP is a scammer, insane and irrational.It has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone disagreeing with me on anything.The people who blindly support Trump, are, in the exact same way as the '08 '12 Obamatrons, brainwashed, willfully blind, or agenda driven.Just my opinion, others may feel differently.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (aRUb8)
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AOSHQ: Come for the political jousting, stay for the streetfight.
Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (UzPAd)
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Drudge links to Infowars for cripes sake.
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (mcm0N)
He's been doing that for a very long time. So what? It didn't seem to bother anyone too much before ...
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 12:01 PM (mcm0N)
He's been doing that for a very long time. So what? It didn't seem to bother anyone too much before ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (zc3Db)
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Gateway Pundit = Little Green Footballs
Any day now he will post something saying 9/11 was an inside job because Trump said it was an inside job.
Any day now he will post something saying 9/11 was an inside job because Trump said it was an inside job.
Posted by: T at April 13, 2016 12:03 PM (6cDf/)
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I will vote for either Trump or Cruz in November.
Just between us, their supporters kind of suck sometimes. Yes, specially those who are convinced there is no way they themselves suck, it's just the other guy who sucks.
But right now Hillary and Bernie are running ads here. Keeps it in perspective for me.
Just between us, their supporters kind of suck sometimes. Yes, specially those who are convinced there is no way they themselves suck, it's just the other guy who sucks.
But right now Hillary and Bernie are running ads here. Keeps it in perspective for me.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:03 PM (nbrY/)
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>>>No, they don't. The most fortunate blacks in the world are the ones who were lucky enough to be born in America, no matter how they got here.
i would say it matters how they got here. there's a difference between coming as a free immigrant, as my forefathers did, and coming over as a slave in the belly of slave ship where half the slaves died of malnutrition and shitting out their guts from disease.
and then there were some unpleasant years after the civil war where they were the bottom caste -- often legally, and not just socially.
i would say it matters how they got here. there's a difference between coming as a free immigrant, as my forefathers did, and coming over as a slave in the belly of slave ship where half the slaves died of malnutrition and shitting out their guts from disease.
and then there were some unpleasant years after the civil war where they were the bottom caste -- often legally, and not just socially.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:03 PM (dciA+)
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Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (MQEz6)
No...no...no....no!!!!
Cruzenkhamen is THE trucon God-King that will save us all!! I will not allow you to insult him.
!!!1111???../...!!!
With a bunch of of !jebS! former campaign people on his staff. Lets not forget that McConnells campaign lawyer too. A honcho with CoC. Having ties to Goldman Sacks ? Don't know about all this
but nothing says "anti-establishment" like Jeb Bush, Mitch McConnell, and Goldman Sacks baybee!!!
No...no...no....no!!!!
Cruzenkhamen is THE trucon God-King that will save us all!! I will not allow you to insult him.
!!!1111???../...!!!
With a bunch of of !jebS! former campaign people on his staff. Lets not forget that McConnells campaign lawyer too. A honcho with CoC. Having ties to Goldman Sacks ? Don't know about all this
but nothing says "anti-establishment" like Jeb Bush, Mitch McConnell, and Goldman Sacks baybee!!!
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 12:03 PM (WVsWD)
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Did you not read the comments specifically directed at you yesterday in one of the threads??
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (iQIUe)
No I didn't. I haven't been on line much for the last week or so. Which thread was that?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 11:53 AM (iQIUe)
No I didn't. I haven't been on line much for the last week or so. Which thread was that?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (aRUb8)
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No. You misunderstood my position.I'm pointing out that TRUMP is a scammer, insane and irrational.It has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone disagreeing with me on anything.The people who blindly support Trump, are, in the exact same way as the '08 '12 Obamatrons, brainwashed, willfully blind, or agenda driven.Just my opinion, others may feel differently.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (aRUb
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So, now it is people who disagree with you are brainwashed, blind, and agenda driven? Stop digging.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (aRUb
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So, now it is people who disagree with you are brainwashed, blind, and agenda driven? Stop digging.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (iQIUe)
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I read that the Albany Bus Racists rejected a plea bargain and demanded a trial. That's nuts.
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I imagine they're hoping at least one juror will believe that the greater truth outweighs the actual truth. They may well be right.
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I imagine they're hoping at least one juror will believe that the greater truth outweighs the actual truth. They may well be right.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (Nwg0u)
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>>>He's been doing that for a very long time. So what? It didn't seem to bother anyone too much before ...
it did and it was frequently noted.
maybe it didn't bother some. It bothered a lot of us.
it did and it was frequently noted.
maybe it didn't bother some. It bothered a lot of us.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (dciA+)
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He couldn't even do the necessary homework. But, he'll do fabulous deals and cut waste, fraud & abuse. The man is a laughing stock.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (voOPb)
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And yet, I get the impression that when he builds a casino he does all that. Hires the best people and reads every iota of every contract, invoice, and receipt. Those skills and habits don't translate to another field of endeavor? I guess not in his case.
He couldn't even do the necessary homework. But, he'll do fabulous deals and cut waste, fraud & abuse. The man is a laughing stock.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (voOPb)
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And yet, I get the impression that when he builds a casino he does all that. Hires the best people and reads every iota of every contract, invoice, and receipt. Those skills and habits don't translate to another field of endeavor? I guess not in his case.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (pC96u)
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If you were to ask the average voter what Cruz stands for their first question would be- "Who?" Followed by some meaningless platitude like "oh yeah, he's the only real conservative in the race."
That's a sure winner in the general :-/
That's a sure winner in the general :-/
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (O0lVq)
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What's with all the Goldman Sachs stuff? Is it because it sounds too Jewish? Every candidate takes money from Wall Street.
Posted by: brak at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (MJuTN)
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139 AOSHQ: Come for the political jousting, stay for the streetfight.
Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (UzPAd)
[Breaks beer bottle] YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
Posted by: Fritz at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (UzPAd)
[Breaks beer bottle] YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!
Posted by: Cousin Chicky at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (v9gSJ)
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130 But then, of course, blacks have good reason to feel resentment at the nation --
No, they don't. The most fortunate blacks in the world are the ones who were lucky enough to be born in America, no matter how they got here. I'm glad that my great grandparents were driven out of Russia by pogroms and managed to end up in America.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (zc3Db)
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I for one am glad I was born here.
Doesn't mean I don't remember, and respect, my ancestors who were brought here against their will.
I would think they'd be horrified to see what a lot of their future descendants have devolved into.
No, they don't. The most fortunate blacks in the world are the ones who were lucky enough to be born in America, no matter how they got here. I'm glad that my great grandparents were driven out of Russia by pogroms and managed to end up in America.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:00 PM (zc3Db)
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I for one am glad I was born here.
Doesn't mean I don't remember, and respect, my ancestors who were brought here against their will.
I would think they'd be horrified to see what a lot of their future descendants have devolved into.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (rlfds)
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Don't know about all this
but nothing says "anti-establishment" like Jeb Bush, Mitch McConnell, and Goldman Sacks baybee!!!
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 12:03 PM (WVsWD)
And Trump??Focus Bias, perhaps??
but nothing says "anti-establishment" like Jeb Bush, Mitch McConnell, and Goldman Sacks baybee!!!
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 12:03 PM (WVsWD)
And Trump??Focus Bias, perhaps??
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (aRUb8)
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Meanwhile, Cruz's argument to vote for him seems to
echo the last two presidential elections- "vote for me, because the
other guy is so terrible".
And in the primary, it apparently has some extra pizazz- "and he sucks at the delegate game...guffaw! high-five!
But vote for Cruz. He's the "constitutional conservative", which means shit to most of the voting public.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (O0lVq)
If you honestly think that is his argument AT ALL, you have been living under a rock.
echo the last two presidential elections- "vote for me, because the
other guy is so terrible".
And in the primary, it apparently has some extra pizazz- "and he sucks at the delegate game...guffaw! high-five!
But vote for Cruz. He's the "constitutional conservative", which means shit to most of the voting public.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 11:58 AM (O0lVq)
If you honestly think that is his argument AT ALL, you have been living under a rock.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (3JA/M)
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I read that the Albany Bus Racists rejected a plea bargain and demanded a trial. That's nuts.
Banking on coastal whiteguilt.
I read that the Albany Bus Racists rejected a plea bargain and demanded a trial. That's nuts.
Banking on coastal whiteguilt.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (FkBIv)
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"There won't be a 2nd vote, so spending time/money to ensure pro-Trump people were delegates when Trump saw a clear path to 1237 would have been a waste of time and dollars."
Spot on.
Trump may get to 1,237. If not, he'll most likely be short less than 100. He can bribe enough delegates with positions in his new Administration and/or trips to Mar-A-Lago. If needed, Kasich can deliver a First Round Dowry of 66 bound Ohio delegates just by saying the word -- it's Kasich's only pay with these delegates.
Cruz is behind in every upcoming primary poll, often by a lot, and often behind Kasich. Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from 1,237 in a week. He'll be far behind Trump in delegate count going into Cleveland. His running as a spoiler will only become clearer by the end of April.
Can Cruz really wrap up 1,237 delegates for the Second Ballot. Who knows, but's he's skpetical. He has to say he will, else he'd have to quit. Romney & Co are the ones who have been too late to the party -- if they wanted to stop Trump they needed to have started six months ago. To some extent, Jeb and Romney and Rubio do what they do because Revenge of the Nerds.
MSM needs to keep Cruz in the race, else there's nothing fun to report. Trump says he's going to shift to giving Presidential policy speeches. The horror!
Spot on.
Trump may get to 1,237. If not, he'll most likely be short less than 100. He can bribe enough delegates with positions in his new Administration and/or trips to Mar-A-Lago. If needed, Kasich can deliver a First Round Dowry of 66 bound Ohio delegates just by saying the word -- it's Kasich's only pay with these delegates.
Cruz is behind in every upcoming primary poll, often by a lot, and often behind Kasich. Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from 1,237 in a week. He'll be far behind Trump in delegate count going into Cleveland. His running as a spoiler will only become clearer by the end of April.
Can Cruz really wrap up 1,237 delegates for the Second Ballot. Who knows, but's he's skpetical. He has to say he will, else he'd have to quit. Romney & Co are the ones who have been too late to the party -- if they wanted to stop Trump they needed to have started six months ago. To some extent, Jeb and Romney and Rubio do what they do because Revenge of the Nerds.
MSM needs to keep Cruz in the race, else there's nothing fun to report. Trump says he's going to shift to giving Presidential policy speeches. The horror!
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (bQxkN)
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Vic We Have No Party, #59:
"The Republicans should be able to win this in a cakewalk. Instead we have nobody running who can stop themselves from handing it back to the Democrats through stupidity and simple bad politics."
I know it. If only we'd had some current and former governors with good results and solid conservative principles.
(This is not a plea for Kasich, just a lament that Walker and Perry didn't catch on, and that Jindal couldn't win his own state if he ran.)
"The Republicans should be able to win this in a cakewalk. Instead we have nobody running who can stop themselves from handing it back to the Democrats through stupidity and simple bad politics."
I know it. If only we'd had some current and former governors with good results and solid conservative principles.
(This is not a plea for Kasich, just a lament that Walker and Perry didn't catch on, and that Jindal couldn't win his own state if he ran.)
Posted by: JPS at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (Zu+Nt)
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I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
Because those people were never principled conservatives in the first place.
Because those people were never principled conservatives in the first place.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (+B4Qh)
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And instead of stopping and demanding their candidate get his shit together, the drudge's, coulter's, and stone's of the world embolden him by buying into this nonsense.
Let's face it - Donald Trump is showing himself to be just not quite organized enough for this job. It's above him, he should stick to real estate deals where he uses other people's money to gamble - he's better at that than he is at this.
If it was just one thing - I could understand, but this is time after time he's caught with his pants down - and this type of shit is supposed to be his strong suit.
If you like Trump, that's fine... understandable even if we disagree... but for goodness sakes - at least demand your candidate get his crap together instead of playing the victim card of nonsense.
Let's face it - Donald Trump is showing himself to be just not quite organized enough for this job. It's above him, he should stick to real estate deals where he uses other people's money to gamble - he's better at that than he is at this.
If it was just one thing - I could understand, but this is time after time he's caught with his pants down - and this type of shit is supposed to be his strong suit.
If you like Trump, that's fine... understandable even if we disagree... but for goodness sakes - at least demand your candidate get his crap together instead of playing the victim card of nonsense.
Posted by: Reality Man at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (Ch0fq)
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RealClearPolitics composite:
Clinton vs Cruz: Clinton up less than three.
Clinton vs Trump: Clinton up more than ten.Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (A6sW3)As Ace himself once said, when a guy calling himself "Masturbatin' Pete" tells you something, mister, you'd better listen.
RealClearPolitics composite:
Clinton vs Cruz: Clinton up less than three.
Clinton vs Trump: Clinton up more than ten.Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (A6sW3)As Ace himself once said, when a guy calling himself "Masturbatin' Pete" tells you something, mister, you'd better listen.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (X6fMO)
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If you were to ask the average voter what Cruz stands for their first
question would be- "Who?" Followed by some meaningless platitude like
"oh yeah, he's the only real conservative in the race."
That's a sure winner in the general :-/
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (O0lVq)
Wrong.
If you were to ask the average voter what Cruz stands for their first
question would be- "Who?" Followed by some meaningless platitude like
"oh yeah, he's the only real conservative in the race."
That's a sure winner in the general :-/
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (O0lVq)
Wrong.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (3JA/M)
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He's been doing that for a very long time. So what? It didn't seem to bother anyone too much before ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (zc3Db)
******
So remember your low IQ hypothesis about Benedict Cumberbatch--and his pinhole eyeballs?
Have you taken a gander at Trump's lizard eyes?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (zc3Db)
******
So remember your low IQ hypothesis about Benedict Cumberbatch--and his pinhole eyeballs?
Have you taken a gander at Trump's lizard eyes?
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (mcm0N)
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141 Gateway Pundit = Little Green Footballs
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Wow, Little Green Footballs--what a colossal waste of potential. I was an early poster there, back before Charles Johnson changed sides. "Never Forget" was (perhaps still is?) a slogan on the sidebar--its a pity that Charles did indeed *forget*.
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Wow, Little Green Footballs--what a colossal waste of potential. I was an early poster there, back before Charles Johnson changed sides. "Never Forget" was (perhaps still is?) a slogan on the sidebar--its a pity that Charles did indeed *forget*.
Posted by: Crusader at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (ewSN2)
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No I didn't. I haven't been on line much for the last week or so. Which thread was that?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (aRUb
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The one you commented several times in so I dont know where you get that "havent been on line much"
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (aRUb
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The one you commented several times in so I dont know where you get that "havent been on line much"
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (iQIUe)
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I've looked around enough to know there are very successful people who support Trump. Sane, logical people as well. Then there are the people who comment at Breitbart: people who lurch from one emotionally laden position to another with their fingers mashed on the all caps key at all times.
We'd like to think everyone on our side uses their logic mindthoughts, but that's obviously not true.
We'd like to think everyone on our side uses their logic mindthoughts, but that's obviously not true.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (4ErVI)
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MSM needs to keep Cruz in the race, else there's nothing fun to report. Trump says he's going to shift to giving Presidential policy speeches. The horror!
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (bQ
That ought to be good for a laugh...
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (bQ
That ought to be good for a laugh...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (O2RFr)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (WVsWD)
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Drudge has linked garbage and sensationalize everything for a long time. It's not like the guy is some kind of honest broker. The hatted whore will link whatever he thinks gets clicks. It's like the online Enquirer, only worse.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (O0lVq)
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He's been giving them the ALL CAPS RED FONT!! treatment.
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Hey! Drudge has stolen my seduction technique!
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Hey! Drudge has stolen my seduction technique!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (Nwg0u)
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>>>
Because those people were never principled conservatives in the first place.
watch it.
further, many are principled conservatives but have come to believe, with good reason, the GOPe itself aren't principled conservatives, but just liberals pandering to a base they disagree with and often hate.
Tucker Carlson blew the whistle on the GOPe re: abortion a couple of weeks ago. He said that among the DC conservatives he moves among (yes that's two amongs), most are pro-choice, or at least a lot more pro-choice than they protest publicly.
Because those people were never principled conservatives in the first place.
watch it.
further, many are principled conservatives but have come to believe, with good reason, the GOPe itself aren't principled conservatives, but just liberals pandering to a base they disagree with and often hate.
Tucker Carlson blew the whistle on the GOPe re: abortion a couple of weeks ago. He said that among the DC conservatives he moves among (yes that's two amongs), most are pro-choice, or at least a lot more pro-choice than they protest publicly.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (dciA+)
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Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
Posted by: The Tao of Ted Cruz at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (t7mMb)
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Cruz is a very good clan leader.
Trump inspires his friends and enemies.
I'm not a member of Cruz's clan.
I'm not Trump's friend or enemy.
Cruz is likely to be very divisive as President. Cruz will bail out the banks or the Bankers will feel the same way the Mafia felt about JFK. The Great Recession is back (it really wasn't ever gone).
Trump is entertaining but is only likely to be better than Carter, Clinton, McCain, Romney, Obama, and Hillary as President. Not a very high bar. Might tie W but would also easily beat the no-new-taxes prevaricator.
Trump inspires his friends and enemies.
I'm not a member of Cruz's clan.
I'm not Trump's friend or enemy.
Cruz is likely to be very divisive as President. Cruz will bail out the banks or the Bankers will feel the same way the Mafia felt about JFK. The Great Recession is back (it really wasn't ever gone).
Trump is entertaining but is only likely to be better than Carter, Clinton, McCain, Romney, Obama, and Hillary as President. Not a very high bar. Might tie W but would also easily beat the no-new-taxes prevaricator.
Posted by: what you say? at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (I0sxh)
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Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:03 PM (dciA+)
But they still had it better here than anywhere else in the world. Make of that what you will. I'm just saying that if one were able to remake his own personal history and not have his ancestors brought to America as slaves, so that he could be born in Africa, how many do you think would take that option - even hypothetical and impossible as it is?
And as I pointed out, my ancestors didn't come here by choice. They were driven out of their homes and ended up here, in very poor circumstances to begin with. Thank G-d they were.
But they still had it better here than anywhere else in the world. Make of that what you will. I'm just saying that if one were able to remake his own personal history and not have his ancestors brought to America as slaves, so that he could be born in Africa, how many do you think would take that option - even hypothetical and impossible as it is?
And as I pointed out, my ancestors didn't come here by choice. They were driven out of their homes and ended up here, in very poor circumstances to begin with. Thank G-d they were.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (zc3Db)
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Trump's supporters have it right:
Cruz is much, much closer to the GOP establishment than Trump is...
...because Trump is part of the Democrat establishment.
Cruz is much, much closer to the GOP establishment than Trump is...
...because Trump is part of the Democrat establishment.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (26zxJ)
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it did and it was frequently noted.
maybe it didn't bother some. It bothered a lot of us.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (dciA+)
*********
Yep. I remember that.
maybe it didn't bother some. It bothered a lot of us.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (dciA+)
*********
Yep. I remember that.
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (mcm0N)
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>>>Hey! Drudge has stolen my seduction technique!
FREAK DICK THREATENS VAGE...
YOUR VAGE BRACES FOR IMPACT...
WHO WILL SURVIVE THE FUCKSTORM?
DEVELOPING...
FREAK DICK THREATENS VAGE...
YOUR VAGE BRACES FOR IMPACT...
WHO WILL SURVIVE THE FUCKSTORM?
DEVELOPING...
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (dciA+)
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159 I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
Because those people were never principled conservatives in the first place.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (+B4Qh)
Or Trump is not quite the con man you think he is, Cruz is less the principled Conservative than you think he is, and a Conservative is not what is needed now.
159 I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
Because those people were never principled conservatives in the first place.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (+B4Qh)
Or Trump is not quite the con man you think he is, Cruz is less the principled Conservative than you think he is, and a Conservative is not what is needed now.
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (MQEz6)
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So remember your low IQ hypothesis about Benedict Cumberbatch--and his pinhole eyeballs?
Have you taken a gander at Trump's lizard eyes?
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (mcm0N)
LOL.
You're good!
Have you taken a gander at Trump's lizard eyes?
Posted by: It's Going to California at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (mcm0N)
LOL.
You're good!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (zc3Db)
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This schtick of flying by the seat of his pants will go right through until he loses a landslide in November (if Republicans are stupid enough to nominate him)
After the votes are counted, he'll either say it was rigged or he'll bow out before the election once he sees the writing on the wall.
After the votes are counted, he'll either say it was rigged or he'll bow out before the election once he sees the writing on the wall.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:10 PM (A2FEp)
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140 He's been doing that for a very long time. So what? It didn't seem to bother anyone too much before ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (zc3Db)
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Yes, yes it did bother many people.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:02 PM (zc3Db)
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Yes, yes it did bother many people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:10 PM (FdQL3)
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I aw this thing someone posted on Twitter - that the last guy who really understood how the delegate process works we call "Mr. President."
True enough.
Many people said that because he ran such an awesome campaign, that was in itself a testament to how awesome a President he would be.
How's that working out for ya?
True enough.
Many people said that because he ran such an awesome campaign, that was in itself a testament to how awesome a President he would be.
How's that working out for ya?
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2016 12:10 PM (2Ocf1)
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If I had told you Trump people one year ago that Ted Cruz would be the GOP nominee, you'd be ecstatic. No Jeb! No Rubio! A real conservative! A fighter!
But now that you've decided that a lying leftist is your guy no matter what he does or says, Ted Cruz is the enemy.
Madness.
But now that you've decided that a lying leftist is your guy no matter what he does or says, Ted Cruz is the enemy.
Madness.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:10 PM (A6sW3)
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@Ace and @Vic - Thank you for the answers. It kind of was an inside baseball question, but I have been wondering about rules vs. laws, and the penalties, if any, for violating each.
Posted by: mov at April 13, 2016 12:10 PM (kUmUV)
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Difference is you don't lie in your headlines like Drudge has been.
Or link to Alex Jones like a crack-fueled monkey.
Posted by: no good deed at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (GgxVX)
That too.
Or link to Alex Jones like a crack-fueled monkey.
Posted by: no good deed at April 13, 2016 11:59 AM (GgxVX)
That too.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:10 PM (3JA/M)
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Trump has Drudge. Cruz has Beck.
Posted by: NCKate at April 13, 2016 12:11 PM (B7rRP)
Posted by: Aviator at April 13, 2016 12:11 PM (c7vUv)
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We'd like to think everyone on our side uses their logic mindthoughts, but that's obviously not true.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (4ErVI)
That to me has been the most revealing part of this whole primary process. That there are a great many people on "our side" who have only a distant relationship with truth or facts or reality, and support candidates based on feelz, or based on false information that can be verified to be false with only a minimal amount of searching, but isn't done because it confirms the belief holder's worldview.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (4ErVI)
That to me has been the most revealing part of this whole primary process. That there are a great many people on "our side" who have only a distant relationship with truth or facts or reality, and support candidates based on feelz, or based on false information that can be verified to be false with only a minimal amount of searching, but isn't done because it confirms the belief holder's worldview.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:11 PM (+B4Qh)
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At least if it's Trump or Cruz there will be someone to vote for this time.
*adjusts deck chairs, cues band*
*adjusts deck chairs, cues band*
Posted by: Meremortal at April 13, 2016 12:11 PM (3myMJ)
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151
What's with all the Goldman Sachs stuff? Is it because it sounds too Jewish? Every candidate takes money from Wall Street.
Posted by: brak at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (MJuTN)
It's actually a derivative of "Golden Sacks!...Golden Sacks!!". It's the rally cry of the Leprechaun Revolt movement. They're just trying to hide their true agenda.
What's with all the Goldman Sachs stuff? Is it because it sounds too Jewish? Every candidate takes money from Wall Street.
Posted by: brak at April 13, 2016 12:05 PM (MJuTN)
It's actually a derivative of "Golden Sacks!...Golden Sacks!!". It's the rally cry of the Leprechaun Revolt movement. They're just trying to hide their true agenda.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:12 PM (aRUb8)
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177 >>>Hey! Drudge has stolen my seduction technique!
FREAK DICK THREATENS VAGE...
YOUR VAGE BRACES FOR IMPACT...
WHO WILL SURVIVE THE FUCKSTORM?
DEVELOPING...
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (dciA+)
The siren makes the alpacas all horny. That's real disturbing, man...
FREAK DICK THREATENS VAGE...
YOUR VAGE BRACES FOR IMPACT...
WHO WILL SURVIVE THE FUCKSTORM?
DEVELOPING...
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (dciA+)
The siren makes the alpacas all horny. That's real disturbing, man...
Posted by: Cousin Chicky at April 13, 2016 12:12 PM (v9gSJ)
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Oddly Ryan's weird statement also left the door for Romney and McCain, Newt, Cain, etc. since for some reason he didn't say "this cycle."
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:12 PM (tM4uk)
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In the meantime, no more sexy frauleins in ads
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/660477/ Germany-bans-sexy-women-adverts-Cologne-sex-assaults
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/660477/ Germany-bans-sexy-women-adverts-Cologne-sex-assaults
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:12 PM (nbrY/)
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>>Many people said that because he ran such an awesome campaign, that was in itself a testament to how awesome a President he would be.
>>How's that working out for ya?
Not so good but then I never wanted anything he was selling. It worked out great for his fellow SJW and other assorted leftists.
>>How's that working out for ya?
Not so good but then I never wanted anything he was selling. It worked out great for his fellow SJW and other assorted leftists.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2016 12:12 PM (/tuJf)
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"Many people said that because he ran such an awesome campaign, that was in itself a testament to how awesome a President he would be"
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And so therefore the guy who doesn't know shit about how the nominantion process works will be a great president?
Ha ha, no. Trump is dumb and you're gullible for believing him when he lies to you about the wall.
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And so therefore the guy who doesn't know shit about how the nominantion process works will be a great president?
Ha ha, no. Trump is dumb and you're gullible for believing him when he lies to you about the wall.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:12 PM (aFa2V)
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#studyingsforfags
Posted by: Chupacabra at April 13, 2016 12:12 PM (W2YA6)
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I deal with people in DC all the time. They are largely, inherently liberal no matter what party they're in. They are only loyal to each other. It's like a cult, with benefit of the doubt always going to the liberal inclinations.
I'd say you would be surprised what they say or do to get elected by their constituents, but you probably would not be.
And it only takes about one session of Congress for those newly elected to become infected. Just ask Jodi Ernst .
I'd say you would be surprised what they say or do to get elected by their constituents, but you probably would not be.
And it only takes about one session of Congress for those newly elected to become infected. Just ask Jodi Ernst .
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (O0lVq)
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Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma
Sounds like a poem.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
****
If I could just remember the name of it...
Posted by: Anna Puma
Sounds like a poem.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
****
If I could just remember the name of it...
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (NeFrd)
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The Trump people are selling snake oil about Michigan. They won all the committee assignments. as to delegates, I know of at least one district where the lost a delegate slot to a Kasich supporter, with the help of a Trump campaign staffer who sold out the campaign. They also lost a lot of at large seats to statutory delegates, because that was the only place the slots could come from.
If Michigan is what Trump's campaign considers winning, Cruz will take the nomination first round.
If Michigan is what Trump's campaign considers winning, Cruz will take the nomination first round.
Posted by: EndOfPatience at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (xvblb)
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His complaint about fairness in Colorado is not based on consistency or ideology concerns.
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (2Ocf1)
Correct... it was based on the fact that he lost. Nothing more and nothing less.
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2016 11:51 AM (2Ocf1)
Correct... it was based on the fact that he lost. Nothing more and nothing less.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (3JA/M)
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Ok, I grew up in deepest darkest Africa and I think I had a better life than most black Americans (and probably a whole lot of whites), complete with no racial chip on my shoulder. The no chip thing is a huge advantage,believe me.
Yes, I am in a minority, but just wanted to point out there are Africans who live ok, despite the messed up dysfunction of most societies there.
Yes, I am in a minority, but just wanted to point out there are Africans who live ok, despite the messed up dysfunction of most societies there.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (jmIQu)
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Wrong.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (3JA/M)
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How? How will independents and default liberals view Cruz?
Wrong.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:06 PM (3JA/M)
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How? How will independents and default liberals view Cruz?
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (pC96u)
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In so far as her mode of locomotion can be termed "walk".
Posted by: Aviator at April 13, 2016 12:11 PM (c7vUv)
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Walk, hover, whatever, point is, she will not see the inside of a cell.
That fact that she's a serious contender tells me that elections truly do not matter, and it's all one big kabuki theater production for the masses.
I don't feel like playing.
Posted by: Aviator at April 13, 2016 12:11 PM (c7vUv)
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Walk, hover, whatever, point is, she will not see the inside of a cell.
That fact that she's a serious contender tells me that elections truly do not matter, and it's all one big kabuki theater production for the masses.
I don't feel like playing.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (rlfds)
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aced, if you're trying to convince me Trump is a disaster, I'm afraid it might be working
still, Hillary is worse
still, Hillary is worse
Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (q177U)
205
Voting is based on embarrassment.
I read it somewhere.
I read it somewhere.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (nbrY/)
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Or Trump is not quite the con man you think he is,
Probably, yes. I am sure he has *some* principles *somewhere*. I just have a hard time seeing them in the context of this campaign.
Cruz is less the principled Conservative than you think he is,
Oh I don't think so. I have never said that he is Mr. Perfect Conservative, he isn't. I think Cruz would let me down too. I don't worship the man you know. But he is a far sight better than Trump when it comes to conservative cred.
and a
Conservative is not what is needed now.
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (MQEz6)
Umm, yeah it is. It sure beats the alternatives of violent revolution or endless socialism.
Probably, yes. I am sure he has *some* principles *somewhere*. I just have a hard time seeing them in the context of this campaign.
Cruz is less the principled Conservative than you think he is,
Oh I don't think so. I have never said that he is Mr. Perfect Conservative, he isn't. I think Cruz would let me down too. I don't worship the man you know. But he is a far sight better than Trump when it comes to conservative cred.
and a
Conservative is not what is needed now.
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (MQEz6)
Umm, yeah it is. It sure beats the alternatives of violent revolution or endless socialism.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:14 PM (+B4Qh)
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He can bribe enough delegates with positions in his new Administration and/or trips to Mar-A-Lago
_________
Well at least Trump supporters are now admitting who the real cheater is... And it's not Cruz
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Well at least Trump supporters are now admitting who the real cheater is... And it's not Cruz
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 12:14 PM (Gl74b)
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You know - the financial restraint excuse would have been far far better than the victim "they are stealing it" bullshit Trump ran with.
If he came out and said "I'm self funded, I'm not going to take lobbyist money just so I can organize at a granular layer - I'll let the voters push me to 1237 and I promise when I get there, I will be beholden to the voters and the voters alone"
But no - instead we get victim bullcrap. Trump has had so many chances here to really push himself well over 50, but he screws it up every time with his bullshit nonsense.
And let's be honest - a simply website could probably get his people enough information in these states to do the things he needs them to do (like show up)... unless he's going to hire the same people who put together the obamacare web site - I don't think that costs all that much to research the rules and to do.
If he came out and said "I'm self funded, I'm not going to take lobbyist money just so I can organize at a granular layer - I'll let the voters push me to 1237 and I promise when I get there, I will be beholden to the voters and the voters alone"
But no - instead we get victim bullcrap. Trump has had so many chances here to really push himself well over 50, but he screws it up every time with his bullshit nonsense.
And let's be honest - a simply website could probably get his people enough information in these states to do the things he needs them to do (like show up)... unless he's going to hire the same people who put together the obamacare web site - I don't think that costs all that much to research the rules and to do.
Posted by: Reality Man at April 13, 2016 12:14 PM (Ch0fq)
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Not sure how anyone can say Cruz can't win the general election, when the alternative is Trump. Maybe Cruz won't win, but why would anyone think Trump has a better chance? He is massively unpopular outside of his fanatical group of supporters (which isn't large enough). Cruz at least has a shot at uniting people, whereas the way Trump is running is campaign that is impossible for him. He is deliberately stoking people's fears. Anyone who disagrees with him is immediately characterized as a liar, a cheat, ugly, dumb, and/or evil. There is no disagreement with him that is legitimate in his eyes.
Posted by: Myself at April 13, 2016 12:14 PM (5wiU6)
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"a Conservative is not what is needed now."
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I think we've got Trump's general election slogan!
"Trump 2016: Who needs conservatism?"
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I think we've got Trump's general election slogan!
"Trump 2016: Who needs conservatism?"
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:14 PM (aFa2V)
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Jack Straw: what is the website where we can watch the birds hatching near where you live? There were Ospreys right? I have forgotten but got hooked on it last year.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (oiNtH)
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and a Conservative is not what is needed now.
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (MQEz6)
I agree. Whats needed now is a Constitutionalist.Which one would you evaluate as being closer to that...Trump or Cruz?
Posted by: eman at April 13, 2016 12:09 PM (MQEz6)
I agree. Whats needed now is a Constitutionalist.Which one would you evaluate as being closer to that...Trump or Cruz?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (aRUb8)
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Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (dciA+)
Ace,
I had dinner recently with one of my oldest friends. He is extremely intelligent, rational, well educated, and continues to read voraciously about just about everything. He is a good and charitable man as well.
He has embraced serious conservative philosophy his entire life, and is a Trump supporter.
Ace,
I had dinner recently with one of my oldest friends. He is extremely intelligent, rational, well educated, and continues to read voraciously about just about everything. He is a good and charitable man as well.
He has embraced serious conservative philosophy his entire life, and is a Trump supporter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Zu3d9)
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Well The Donald has screwed the pooch three ways from breakfast in some states. Danged if he is not as incompetent as Obama. Of course we have managed to (somewhat) survive seven and a half years of an incompetent fool at the helm (when he is not playing golf, or buggering his friend Reggie Love, or in Hawaii eating shaved ice.)
So we might survive a four year period with another incompetent fool.
So we might survive a four year period with another incompetent fool.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Sda6L)
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Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (4DirM)
Anna always the voice of reason... Thanks...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (O2RFr)
Kipling agrees
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 13, 2016 11:55 AM (4DirM)
Anna always the voice of reason... Thanks...
Posted by: donna at April 13, 2016 11:56 AM (O2RFr)
Kipling agrees
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (3JA/M)
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The Trump people are selling snake oil about Michigan.
That reminds me. I have to change the oil in my snake.
The Trump people are selling snake oil about Michigan.
That reminds me. I have to change the oil in my snake.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (FkBIv)
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I'm a little unclear how we got from "burn it down" to Trump is the anti-Christ who will destroy life as we know it. So we need to rally against him.
Seems a bit dishonest at best.
Seems a bit dishonest at best.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (O0lVq)
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215 Well The Donald has screwed the pooch three ways from breakfast in some states. Danged if he is not as incompetent as Obama. Of course we have managed to (somewhat) survive seven and a half years of an incompetent fool at the helm (when he is not playing golf, or buggering his friend Reggie Love, or in Hawaii eating shaved ice.)
So we might survive a four year period with another incompetent fool.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Sda6L)
I think we've survived, but only because Obama's leaving in place a fortress of bureaucracy that is not easily undone.
In other words, we may not be dead, but we might be in hospice.
So we might survive a four year period with another incompetent fool.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Sda6L)
I think we've survived, but only because Obama's leaving in place a fortress of bureaucracy that is not easily undone.
In other words, we may not be dead, but we might be in hospice.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (O/1LB)
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Let's stir the pot. From HA headlines:
"Megyn Kelly just entered the Trump tower incognito, met by member of his team who took her upstairs."
"Megyn Kelly just entered the Trump tower incognito, met by member of his team who took her upstairs."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (Nwg0u)
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So I'm hearing that laws that benefit political insiders are just fine. That since I don't like Trump I should be ok with political insiders putting in my guy. That the US isn't and hasn't been for a long time, if ever, a place for honest people to be in politics. So does anyone wonder why the US is no longer the home of the free and brave. I want my free cheese and more credits on my EBT card.
Posted by: what you say? at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (HSAmh)
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I love getting to hear your perspective, Chique.
Posted by: Chupacabra at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (W2YA6)
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215 Well The Donald has screwed the pooch three ways from breakfast in some states. Danged if he is not as incompetent as Obama. Of course we have managed to (somewhat) survive seven and a half years of an incompetent fool at the helm (when he is not playing golf, or buggering his friend Reggie Love, or in Hawaii eating shaved ice.)
So we might survive a four year period with another incompetent fool.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Sda6L)
How many incompetent fools in a row can we take? After a certain point it's going to drag us down.
So we might survive a four year period with another incompetent fool.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Sda6L)
How many incompetent fools in a row can we take? After a certain point it's going to drag us down.
Posted by: joncelli, Bridge Troll and Crossbow Afficianado at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (v9gSJ)
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"Maybe Cruz won't win, but why would anyone think Trump has a better chance?"
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(1) Trump is an awesome persuader, but he hasn't focused his energy on the general election yet. When he does, look out! He's gonna win by twenty points.
Now if you're not stupid enough to believe that, try this one:
(2) It's not about winning. It's about smashing the GOP Establishment, which we will do when we prove them right.
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(1) Trump is an awesome persuader, but he hasn't focused his energy on the general election yet. When he does, look out! He's gonna win by twenty points.
Now if you're not stupid enough to believe that, try this one:
(2) It's not about winning. It's about smashing the GOP Establishment, which we will do when we prove them right.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (aFa2V)
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Cheri-
Yes, they are osprey's and they got back last week.
http://www.conanicutraptors.com/creek-nest-webcam/
Yes, they are osprey's and they got back last week.
http://www.conanicutraptors.com/creek-nest-webcam/
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (/tuJf)
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206 Probably, yes. I am sure he has *some* principles *somewhere*. I just have a hard time seeing them in the context of this campaign.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:14 PM (+B4Qh)
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He does love him some eminent domain. I'm pretty sure that's most of his core principles right there.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:14 PM (+B4Qh)
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He does love him some eminent domain. I'm pretty sure that's most of his core principles right there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (FdQL3)
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Wow. The UK pays the EU 55 million pounds a DAY.
Wow. The UK pays the EU 55 million pounds a DAY.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (iQIUe)
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Posted by: Beth M at April 13, 2016 11:39 AM (kiy9d)
Have fun with that, considering the trump campaign is such a mess they proposed no loyalists at my caucus. Even when given the opportunity to organize as a gift, they couldn't do it.
Have fun with that, considering the trump campaign is such a mess they proposed no loyalists at my caucus. Even when given the opportunity to organize as a gift, they couldn't do it.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (tM4uk)
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Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 13, 2016 12:13 PM (jmIQu)
There are people in every country who live fun and enjoyable lives. But not the average person and there is little to no mobility in most places. And everyone in the world has long wanted to come to live in America (shown by the actual population flows - which have been almost uniformly INTO America with zero moving out) which makes being born here a huge advantage over the rest of the world and well worth the price paid by ones ancestors. Well ... it used to be, at least ...
There are people in every country who live fun and enjoyable lives. But not the average person and there is little to no mobility in most places. And everyone in the world has long wanted to come to live in America (shown by the actual population flows - which have been almost uniformly INTO America with zero moving out) which makes being born here a huge advantage over the rest of the world and well worth the price paid by ones ancestors. Well ... it used to be, at least ...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (zc3Db)
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216 Kipling agrees
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (3JA/M)
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As does Sun Tzu.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (3JA/M)
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As does Sun Tzu.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (FdQL3)
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218 I'm a little unclear how we got from "burn it down" to Trump is the anti-Christ who will destroy life as we know it. So we need to rally against him.
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That's a big reason why I will vote for Trump in November.
The SMOD factor.
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That's a big reason why I will vote for Trump in November.
The SMOD factor.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (nbrY/)
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220 Let's stir the pot. From HA headlines:
"Megyn Kelly just entered the Trump tower incognito, met by member of his team who took her upstairs."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (Nwg0u)
The boss gets another one! I swear, money is an aphrodisiac!
"Megyn Kelly just entered the Trump tower incognito, met by member of his team who took her upstairs."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (Nwg0u)
The boss gets another one! I swear, money is an aphrodisiac!
Posted by: The Donald's Head Weasel at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (v9gSJ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (Zu3d9)
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I aw this thing someone posted on Twitter - that the last guy who really understood how the delegate process works we call "Mr. President."
True enough.
Many people said that because he ran such an awesome campaign, that was in itself a testament to how awesome a President he would be.
How's that working out for ya?
Posted by: blaster
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But is the inverse true?
That the less a candidate knows about the delegate process, the better a President they will be?
Trump doesn't even have to understand it, but at least hire "the best" people to understand it for him.
Trump lost me because it's clear he has that lethal combination of being too lazy to crack a book and bone up on the issues and being surrounded by people who are "yes" men.
If he can't take it seriously, I can't take him seriously.
True enough.
Many people said that because he ran such an awesome campaign, that was in itself a testament to how awesome a President he would be.
How's that working out for ya?
Posted by: blaster
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But is the inverse true?
That the less a candidate knows about the delegate process, the better a President they will be?
Trump doesn't even have to understand it, but at least hire "the best" people to understand it for him.
Trump lost me because it's clear he has that lethal combination of being too lazy to crack a book and bone up on the issues and being surrounded by people who are "yes" men.
If he can't take it seriously, I can't take him seriously.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (A2FEp)
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So I'm hearing that laws that benefit political insiders are just fine.
The campaign laws about delegate selection benefit those who actually read the law.
The campaign laws about delegate selection benefit those who actually read the law.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (+B4Qh)
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Ace,
I had dinner recently with one of my
oldest friends. He is extremely intelligent, rational, well educated,
and continues to read voraciously about just about everything. He is a
good and charitable man as well.
He has embraced serious conservative philosophy his entire life, and is a Trump supporter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Zu3d9)
I know people like that too... to a one they dismiss out of hand any facts that do not support their feeling that Trump is a conservative. It seems to boil down to they connected with him emotionally when he refused to be cowed by the PC police and are incapable of seeing his flaws (and lies) because of that emotional connection.
I had dinner recently with one of my
oldest friends. He is extremely intelligent, rational, well educated,
and continues to read voraciously about just about everything. He is a
good and charitable man as well.
He has embraced serious conservative philosophy his entire life, and is a Trump supporter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Zu3d9)
I know people like that too... to a one they dismiss out of hand any facts that do not support their feeling that Trump is a conservative. It seems to boil down to they connected with him emotionally when he refused to be cowed by the PC police and are incapable of seeing his flaws (and lies) because of that emotional connection.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:19 PM (3JA/M)
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Trump sucks.
we get it Ace. Cruz is the most fabulous, fantastic guy ever to run. Better than Reagan.
LOL, what a joke this blog has become.
we get it Ace. Cruz is the most fabulous, fantastic guy ever to run. Better than Reagan.
LOL, what a joke this blog has become.
Posted by: Johnny at April 13, 2016 12:19 PM (8l+DV)
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This is my take on what is going on.
When Bush was President, I always had a feeling that he spend his days behind a desk or at meetings or listening to advice from his team about how to solve problems, formulate policy and implement solutions. You knew he got up early and read newspapers on a treadmill.With Obama, I don;t think he ever actually does the work of being President, just fundraising,traveling, gallivanting around the world enjoying the percs of being a head of state. Kind of like being a King with no real responsibility for anything that happens.
That's how I see Trump. He does not want to do the work to actually run a campaign, organize the grass roots, prepare policy positions and learn them. In his business, he just opts out when the going gets tough. He takes no responsibility for his failures. Everything he does from his political donations to his charitable ventures is always to benefit Donald Trump. Why does anyone think he will actually do the hard work of being President anymore than our malignant narcisisist currently occupying the office.
Meanwhile, Ted Cruz is doing the hard work of a campaign. Opening offices,organizing grass roots volunteers, creating an infrastructure that will help him actually win in November. I see him behind the Resolute desk with the statue of Churchill returned to its place of honor surrounded by trusted advisors who don;t always tell him what he wants to hear.
He has my vote.
When Bush was President, I always had a feeling that he spend his days behind a desk or at meetings or listening to advice from his team about how to solve problems, formulate policy and implement solutions. You knew he got up early and read newspapers on a treadmill.With Obama, I don;t think he ever actually does the work of being President, just fundraising,traveling, gallivanting around the world enjoying the percs of being a head of state. Kind of like being a King with no real responsibility for anything that happens.
That's how I see Trump. He does not want to do the work to actually run a campaign, organize the grass roots, prepare policy positions and learn them. In his business, he just opts out when the going gets tough. He takes no responsibility for his failures. Everything he does from his political donations to his charitable ventures is always to benefit Donald Trump. Why does anyone think he will actually do the hard work of being President anymore than our malignant narcisisist currently occupying the office.
Meanwhile, Ted Cruz is doing the hard work of a campaign. Opening offices,organizing grass roots volunteers, creating an infrastructure that will help him actually win in November. I see him behind the Resolute desk with the statue of Churchill returned to its place of honor surrounded by trusted advisors who don;t always tell him what he wants to hear.
He has my vote.
Posted by: sharon at April 13, 2016 12:19 PM (QzF6i)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 13, 2016 12:19 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (nbrY/)
Posted by: Burning Strawman at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (+B4Qh)
Posted by: DocBrown at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (O/1LB)
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I agree. Whats needed now is a Constitutionalist.Which one would you evaluate as being closer to that...Trump or Cruz?
Posted by: Mimzey
Neither.
Even St. Reagan didn't eliminate departments not authorized by the Constitution.
Posted by: Mimzey
Neither.
Even St. Reagan didn't eliminate departments not authorized by the Constitution.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (4dbPD)
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LOL, what a joke this blog has become.
Posted by: Johnny at April 13, 2016 12:19 PM (8l+DV)
What's keeping you here?
Posted by: Johnny at April 13, 2016 12:19 PM (8l+DV)
What's keeping you here?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:21 PM (Zu3d9)
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224 (2) It's not about winning. It's about smashing the GOP Establishment, which we will do when we prove them right.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (aFa2V)
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You do realize that if we nominate Trump, and end up losing that the GOPe will end up with a stronger hold on the party, right?
They fought Trump tooth and nail from the beginning and he was backed by people like Drudge and (to a lesser degree) Rush, so it'll very very easy to call him the most conservative nominee since Goldwater (it won't be true, but neither was it true that Romney wanted to illegalize tampons). They'll say, "We tried your way, now it's moderates or nothing."
None of it will be true, but it'll be the narrative that pretty easily backed up with just enough facts to make it plausible.
Trump nomination (especially with a general election loss) = stronger GOPe.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:17 PM (aFa2V)
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You do realize that if we nominate Trump, and end up losing that the GOPe will end up with a stronger hold on the party, right?
They fought Trump tooth and nail from the beginning and he was backed by people like Drudge and (to a lesser degree) Rush, so it'll very very easy to call him the most conservative nominee since Goldwater (it won't be true, but neither was it true that Romney wanted to illegalize tampons). They'll say, "We tried your way, now it's moderates or nothing."
None of it will be true, but it'll be the narrative that pretty easily backed up with just enough facts to make it plausible.
Trump nomination (especially with a general election loss) = stronger GOPe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:21 PM (FdQL3)
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Was Megyn Kelly disguised like a man? If not, she must have been invited.
Was Megyn Kelly disguised like a man? If not, she must have been invited.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:21 PM (iQIUe)
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"I'm pretty sure we all know you don't like Trump by now Ace. Now convince me that Cruz will win on the 2nd ballot.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:36 AM (WVsWD)"
I think the fear that Cruz is either a Trojan Horse or an establishment dupe to knock out Cruz for someone else to be parachuted in is misplaced.
Cruz's team hasn't spent all these months working the grass roots to recruit delegates so they could pick people that would ultimately vote for another person like Kasich. Trump and Cruz will combined have an overwhelming number of delegates pledged to them, many of whom on a second ballot will go for Cruz because his team recruited them.
The delegates have to understand that rejecting Trump who is almost assuredly going to have the most pledged delegates, is a big deal. Turning to someone other than Cruz, the one person who will have done the most to defeat him for this nomination, would be crazy. It would tick off both the angry disaffected voters Trump represents as well as the movement conservatives & grassroots activists that Cruz represents.
The convention in Cleveland is in July, when there will be less than 4 months to the general election. That's not enough time in a huge nation like ours to try to unite a party around a totally new person without a base of support AND try to win over independents & like-minded democrats. It has to be either Trump or Cruz.
The only way I see this going to someone else is if Trump loses on the 1st ballot (or knows he will), and decides to throw his support to someone else like Kasich. Now, would Donald Trump do such a thing knowing that he'd badly split the party and probably cost it the election? Hmm...
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 11:36 AM (WVsWD)"
I think the fear that Cruz is either a Trojan Horse or an establishment dupe to knock out Cruz for someone else to be parachuted in is misplaced.
Cruz's team hasn't spent all these months working the grass roots to recruit delegates so they could pick people that would ultimately vote for another person like Kasich. Trump and Cruz will combined have an overwhelming number of delegates pledged to them, many of whom on a second ballot will go for Cruz because his team recruited them.
The delegates have to understand that rejecting Trump who is almost assuredly going to have the most pledged delegates, is a big deal. Turning to someone other than Cruz, the one person who will have done the most to defeat him for this nomination, would be crazy. It would tick off both the angry disaffected voters Trump represents as well as the movement conservatives & grassroots activists that Cruz represents.
The convention in Cleveland is in July, when there will be less than 4 months to the general election. That's not enough time in a huge nation like ours to try to unite a party around a totally new person without a base of support AND try to win over independents & like-minded democrats. It has to be either Trump or Cruz.
The only way I see this going to someone else is if Trump loses on the 1st ballot (or knows he will), and decides to throw his support to someone else like Kasich. Now, would Donald Trump do such a thing knowing that he'd badly split the party and probably cost it the election? Hmm...
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 13, 2016 12:21 PM (QjqR3)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:15 PM (Zu3d9)
See, I cannot square that circle.
Most of the Trump supports I've personally met aren't that though, so maybe that's why?
See, I cannot square that circle.
Most of the Trump supports I've personally met aren't that though, so maybe that's why?
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (tM4uk)
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240 Will Cruz destroy the GOP?
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (nbrY/)
Trump may pass the SMOD test, but the form of the destructor is just another NY liberal.
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (nbrY/)
Trump may pass the SMOD test, but the form of the destructor is just another NY liberal.
Posted by: DocBrown at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (O/1LB)
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I have no doubt that Drudge has helped fuel the excitement for Trump. I wonder if he's gained more readers than lost. I see the anti Cruz stuff as warnings of what will be used against him in the general.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (GzDYP)
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>>240 Will Cruz destroy the GOP?
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Maybe not but Trump is getting his ass handed to him by the GOP right now so I wouldn't count on him taking down the GOP either.
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Maybe not but Trump is getting his ass handed to him by the GOP right now so I wouldn't count on him taking down the GOP either.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (/tuJf)
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Socks..
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (O/1LB)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:21 PM (FdQL3)
To be fair the same thing will happen should Cruz go down in flames in the general, and I think it's almost a certainty that he will flame out.
To be fair the same thing will happen should Cruz go down in flames in the general, and I think it's almost a certainty that he will flame out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (4ErVI)
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The Chop Suey thread was better. Thank you CBD for posting that Hopper pic. I'm buy a reproduction for my kitchen.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (2x3L+)
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Don't vote for the bogeyman. You know he'll do bad things.
Vote against him and we promise you four more years just like the last two!
Vote against him and we promise you four more years just like the last two!
Posted by: Reince Priebus at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (RcpcZ)
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Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (tM4uk)
He has no illusions about Trump, but despises the GOP and doesn't trust Cruz (he sees him as a theocrat).
He has no illusions about Trump, but despises the GOP and doesn't trust Cruz (he sees him as a theocrat).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (Zu3d9)
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"because Obama's leaving in place a fortress of bureaucracy that is not easily undone."
Out of other-peoples-money. BTU just filed for bankruptcy. Another banking crisis is happening. (Why did Obama demand Yellen visit him and Biden yesterday?) Obama thinks he is being clever by timing all his bad decisions to come to light when he is out of office. That only works if you don't blow up everything.
Lois Lerner is likely to lose her pension and her house. Maybe the Christians she persecuted will help her.
Out of other-peoples-money. BTU just filed for bankruptcy. Another banking crisis is happening. (Why did Obama demand Yellen visit him and Biden yesterday?) Obama thinks he is being clever by timing all his bad decisions to come to light when he is out of office. That only works if you don't blow up everything.
Lois Lerner is likely to lose her pension and her house. Maybe the Christians she persecuted will help her.
Posted by: what you say? at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (HSAmh)
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When Cruz loses to The Hag, will that also be blamed on Trump or will self proclaimed "conservatives" finally admit their message sucks and is probably just as divisive as the Democrats, only less appealing and too sucky to win?
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (O0lVq)
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You do realize that if we nominate Trump, and end up losing that the GOPe will end up with a stronger hold on the party, right?
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I think that's basically going to be true with either candidate Cruz or Trump.
The difference is, if Cruz loses, it will probably be by a smaller margin than Romney lost.
Trump though could easily lose 40 states, he's basically running neck and neck with Hillary in places like Mississippi.
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I think that's basically going to be true with either candidate Cruz or Trump.
The difference is, if Cruz loses, it will probably be by a smaller margin than Romney lost.
Trump though could easily lose 40 states, he's basically running neck and neck with Hillary in places like Mississippi.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:24 PM (A2FEp)
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Cruz at least has a shot at uniting people
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I could easily spend 1000 words on the divisiveness of his "New York values" comment, which was not only polarizing but stupid, wrong-headed, simple-minded, reductive, blind, unAmerican, unpresidential, unleaderly, elitist, smug, dismissive, punitive, sanctimonious, and repulsive, among other things.
Srsly, why does he want to be president? Does he realize the office covers all 50 states?
Cruz at least has a shot at uniting people
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I could easily spend 1000 words on the divisiveness of his "New York values" comment, which was not only polarizing but stupid, wrong-headed, simple-minded, reductive, blind, unAmerican, unpresidential, unleaderly, elitist, smug, dismissive, punitive, sanctimonious, and repulsive, among other things.
Srsly, why does he want to be president? Does he realize the office covers all 50 states?
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:24 PM (pC96u)
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"You do realize that if we nominate Trump, and end up losing that the GOPe will end up with a stronger hold on the party, right?"
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Yes. That was my entire point. Duh.
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Yes. That was my entire point. Duh.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:24 PM (aFa2V)
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He has no illusions about Trump, but despises the GOP and doesn't trust Cruz (he sees him as a theocrat).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (Zu3d9)
Then it's "burn it down" for no other reason than I'm angry. Nope, not interested.
As for Cruz, I never understood the idea that's he's "extreme" or a theocrat past the media portraying him that way.
Sure if you're left of center he might look extreme, but flat taxes and state control of lots of things has been closer to center right than "medicare for all" and free college is to center left.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (Zu3d9)
Then it's "burn it down" for no other reason than I'm angry. Nope, not interested.
As for Cruz, I never understood the idea that's he's "extreme" or a theocrat past the media portraying him that way.
Sure if you're left of center he might look extreme, but flat taxes and state control of lots of things has been closer to center right than "medicare for all" and free college is to center left.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:25 PM (tM4uk)
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I have no doubt that Drudge has helped fuel the excitement for Trump.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (GzDYP)
It was Trump's positions on illegals and America's place in the world that fueled the great bulk of his support. The rest, as Hillel would say, is commentary.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (GzDYP)
It was Trump's positions on illegals and America's place in the world that fueled the great bulk of his support. The rest, as Hillel would say, is commentary.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:25 PM (zc3Db)
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If Trump shows up a hundred delegates short he's gonna "persuade" enough of the unbound to get over the hump on the first ballot.
Trump is very VERY smart. He took out Romney part deux aka Low Energy Jeb and McCain part deux aka Little Mario (seriously Mario is a sweaty McCain 35 years ago w/ black hair). Cruz couldn't have done that. I mean Cruz can't even get a delegate lead on this alleged clown car in a dumpster fire Trump fella.
Trump has been wildly successful in business. The vast majority of us would have lost his fathers inheritance - just like all those lottery winners who end up broke. And the claim that an index fund would have made him more money? That analysis does not take any of Trump's personal living expenses into account - such as alimony, food, housing, ect.
So again, if Trump shows up a hundred delegates short he's gonna "persuade" enough of the unbound to get over the hump on the first ballot.
If Cruz pulls an upset in NY, then we can talk. Until that blue moon, this Cruz multi-ballot stuff is the equivalent of locking yourself in your stateroom pacing back and forth while whispering that this GOPe-Titanic is unsinkable.
Trump is very VERY smart. He took out Romney part deux aka Low Energy Jeb and McCain part deux aka Little Mario (seriously Mario is a sweaty McCain 35 years ago w/ black hair). Cruz couldn't have done that. I mean Cruz can't even get a delegate lead on this alleged clown car in a dumpster fire Trump fella.
Trump has been wildly successful in business. The vast majority of us would have lost his fathers inheritance - just like all those lottery winners who end up broke. And the claim that an index fund would have made him more money? That analysis does not take any of Trump's personal living expenses into account - such as alimony, food, housing, ect.
So again, if Trump shows up a hundred delegates short he's gonna "persuade" enough of the unbound to get over the hump on the first ballot.
If Cruz pulls an upset in NY, then we can talk. Until that blue moon, this Cruz multi-ballot stuff is the equivalent of locking yourself in your stateroom pacing back and forth while whispering that this GOPe-Titanic is unsinkable.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:25 PM (10hEu)
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A note about Virginia and a correction for the article listed... while the Trump campaign has not organized and totally missed the deadline to get his people to sign up for the district and state conventions, he does have some grassroots support in most districts and they made the effort to at least sign up for consideration as national delegates. Those people do not seem to have put the same effort into recruiting votes at the conventions.
The 9th district convention is the only one that has been held so far and two Cruz delegates and one Trump delegate were chosen (I do not know the makeup of the alternates, however). I would expect similar results in most, if not all of the district conventions.
The 9th district convention is the only one that has been held so far and two Cruz delegates and one Trump delegate were chosen (I do not know the makeup of the alternates, however). I would expect similar results in most, if not all of the district conventions.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:26 PM (3JA/M)
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"I could easily spend 1000 words on the divisiveness of his "New York values" comment, which was not only polarizing but stupid, wrong-headed, simple-minded, reductive, blind, unAmerican, unpresidential, unleaderly, elitist, smug, dismissive, punitive, sanctimonious, and repulsive, among other things."
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If that's your response to something Cruz said about a state that the GOP stands no chance of winning in the general election... what's your take on virtually every word that comes out of Trump's mouth?
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If that's your response to something Cruz said about a state that the GOP stands no chance of winning in the general election... what's your take on virtually every word that comes out of Trump's mouth?
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:26 PM (26zxJ)
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He has no illusions about Trump, but despises the GOP and doesn't trust Cruz (he sees him as a theocrat).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (Zu3d9)
I don't understand the theocrat dig. Should personal convictions not guide our actions?
And just to head it off, every single law ever made is enforcing someone's morality on everyone.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (Zu3d9)
I don't understand the theocrat dig. Should personal convictions not guide our actions?
And just to head it off, every single law ever made is enforcing someone's morality on everyone.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 13, 2016 12:26 PM (O/1LB)
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253 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:21 PM (FdQL3)
To be fair the same thing will happen should Cruz go down in flames in the general, and I think it's almost a certainty that he will flame out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (4ErVI)
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I'll go with the one who actually has a better shot at winning the general election, which, according to actual evidence (like polls), is Cruz.
Also, he obviously has the desire to win and to fight tooth and nail every step of the way. I'd rather have that chance than Trump's ad hoc strategy.
To be fair the same thing will happen should Cruz go down in flames in the general, and I think it's almost a certainty that he will flame out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:22 PM (4ErVI)
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I'll go with the one who actually has a better shot at winning the general election, which, according to actual evidence (like polls), is Cruz.
Also, he obviously has the desire to win and to fight tooth and nail every step of the way. I'd rather have that chance than Trump's ad hoc strategy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:26 PM (FdQL3)
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>>Cruz at least has a shot at uniting people
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Yeah, I'll expect he'll bring all those Trump supporters, from demographics the GOP hasn't seen in about three elections, and who they need to win electorally, are gonna come running home to mommy after being insulted, belittled and called names for the last six months.
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Yeah, I'll expect he'll bring all those Trump supporters, from demographics the GOP hasn't seen in about three elections, and who they need to win electorally, are gonna come running home to mommy after being insulted, belittled and called names for the last six months.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (O0lVq)
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So, Cruz makes one statement that is offensive and Trump makes them every day but Trump will be the better candidate. No Republican is going to win New York anymore than they are going to win Massachusetts or Connecticut.
Seriously, why does Trump want to be President?
Seriously, why does Trump want to be President?
Posted by: sharon at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (QzF6i)
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Hey ace, theft by definition is still theft regardless of whether it is legal or in keeping with the rules or not. See IRS. I won't disagree that Cruz is playing by the rules, the problem is that the rules are a form of corruption.
Stick your nose in the air all you want about what a Zulu Warlock Cruz is, see how far that kind of attitude goes to persuade normal people that feel disenfranchised.
The right to vote and have a say is central to our system, how many have died on the battlefield for that right? You've got Benie people being fucked by DNC Superdelegates. You've got Trump people being fucked by the GOP and Media in every way possible.
The problem right now is voters are not being represented, no taxation without representation and all that. The current system is such that there are two parties that dominate everything and we have no choice but to submit to the will of those parties. The laws, the rules, all of it is designed to give them ultimate power over the process. End result is the party cabals choose our choices for us. People should be upset.
Stick your nose in the air all you want about what a Zulu Warlock Cruz is, see how far that kind of attitude goes to persuade normal people that feel disenfranchised.
The right to vote and have a say is central to our system, how many have died on the battlefield for that right? You've got Benie people being fucked by DNC Superdelegates. You've got Trump people being fucked by the GOP and Media in every way possible.
The problem right now is voters are not being represented, no taxation without representation and all that. The current system is such that there are two parties that dominate everything and we have no choice but to submit to the will of those parties. The laws, the rules, all of it is designed to give them ultimate power over the process. End result is the party cabals choose our choices for us. People should be upset.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (HeK4a)
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I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
As has been said ad nauseam - anger.
The GOPe were given a golden opportunity to stop the dog-eating crackhead in his tracks. They were handed cases like Lois Lerner and Planned Murderhood where they could have shown spine, lit up the Capitol with righteous rage and made high-ranking people pay real penalties.
But they rolled over for Obama, they let Lerner laugh her way out of the room and let a literal apologist for outright murder wriggle deftly off the hook.
And when Trump came along, blustering against a do-nothing establishment and an outright treasonous MFM, rather than considering "I say, this New York fellow might have a point," they decided to strike back with condescension and a hefty dose of "fuck you, you proles." Not to mention throwing their support behind candidates who explicitly went out of their way to tell the GOP base that if they had any reservations about open borders, they were nothing but a bunch of racist honkys.
Trump may well be an ill-prepared, vainglorious, cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless hunk of a political party.
I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
As has been said ad nauseam - anger.
The GOPe were given a golden opportunity to stop the dog-eating crackhead in his tracks. They were handed cases like Lois Lerner and Planned Murderhood where they could have shown spine, lit up the Capitol with righteous rage and made high-ranking people pay real penalties.
But they rolled over for Obama, they let Lerner laugh her way out of the room and let a literal apologist for outright murder wriggle deftly off the hook.
And when Trump came along, blustering against a do-nothing establishment and an outright treasonous MFM, rather than considering "I say, this New York fellow might have a point," they decided to strike back with condescension and a hefty dose of "fuck you, you proles." Not to mention throwing their support behind candidates who explicitly went out of their way to tell the GOP base that if they had any reservations about open borders, they were nothing but a bunch of racist honkys.
Trump may well be an ill-prepared, vainglorious, cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless hunk of a political party.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (X6fMO)
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Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:25 PM (10hEu)
I've got a Powerball ticket for tonight. If I win I'm going to start a foundation that gives boob jobs to hot poor chicks.
I've got a Powerball ticket for tonight. If I win I'm going to start a foundation that gives boob jobs to hot poor chicks.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (4ErVI)
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Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:25 PM (10hEu)
Jeb's family name defeated Jeb, make no mistake about that.
Just like Trump didn't defeat Walker either, a overconfidence in consultants did.
Jeb's family name defeated Jeb, make no mistake about that.
Just like Trump didn't defeat Walker either, a overconfidence in consultants did.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (tM4uk)
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When Cruz loses to The Hag, will that also be blamed on Trump or will self proclaimed "conservatives" finally admit their message sucks and is probably just as divisive as the Democrats, only less appealing and too sucky to win?
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (O0lVq)
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No. You know what they'll say. Cruz wasn't a sufficiently fiery, sanctimonious, and punitive conservative. We need someone even more punchable.
When Cruz loses to The Hag, will that also be blamed on Trump or will self proclaimed "conservatives" finally admit their message sucks and is probably just as divisive as the Democrats, only less appealing and too sucky to win?
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:23 PM (O0lVq)
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No. You know what they'll say. Cruz wasn't a sufficiently fiery, sanctimonious, and punitive conservative. We need someone even more punchable.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (pC96u)
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If Cruz pulls an upset in NY, then we can talk.
Until that blue moon, this Cruz multi-ballot stuff is the equivalent of
locking yourself in your stateroom pacing back and forth while
whispering that this GOPe-Titanic is unsinkable.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:25 PM (10hEu)
Cruz ain't GOPe and neither Cruz nor Trump are likely to get to 1237 (and the unbound delegates are unlikely to push Trump over).
Until that blue moon, this Cruz multi-ballot stuff is the equivalent of
locking yourself in your stateroom pacing back and forth while
whispering that this GOPe-Titanic is unsinkable.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:25 PM (10hEu)
Cruz ain't GOPe and neither Cruz nor Trump are likely to get to 1237 (and the unbound delegates are unlikely to push Trump over).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:28 PM (3JA/M)
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Say what you will about Chop Suey but it was, is, and will always be ALL AMERICAN. And it was endorsed by American moms everywhere...
Mom, flag, apple pie, and chop suey....
Say what you will about Chop Suey but it was, is, and will always be ALL AMERICAN. And it was endorsed by American moms everywhere...
Mom, flag, apple pie, and chop suey....
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:28 PM (iQIUe)
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Trump supporters are just like Trump.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 13, 2016 12:28 PM (5IbVn)
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"So again, if Trump shows up a hundred delegates short he's gonna "persuade" enough of the unbound to get over the hump on the first ballot."
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And yet he can't "persuade" enough of his own employees to read the delegate-selection rules.
You're right about one thing, though: Trump is excellent at persuading the gullible to believe that he's serious about building a border wall.
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And yet he can't "persuade" enough of his own employees to read the delegate-selection rules.
You're right about one thing, though: Trump is excellent at persuading the gullible to believe that he's serious about building a border wall.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:29 PM (A6sW3)
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Posted by: #NeverHillary at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (HeK4a)
Oh what utter bullshit.
Trump keeps his delegates bound on the first ballot, past that it's up to the delegates. If Trump couldn't figure out how to get his delegates to the convention that's not "theft" anymore than my lack of switching TV providers due to laziness is "theft" due to higher bills.
Oh what utter bullshit.
Trump keeps his delegates bound on the first ballot, past that it's up to the delegates. If Trump couldn't figure out how to get his delegates to the convention that's not "theft" anymore than my lack of switching TV providers due to laziness is "theft" due to higher bills.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:29 PM (tM4uk)
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Thank you JackStraw!
Drudge's headlines against Cruz have been mostly ridiculous stuff painting Cruz as some religious nut, liar, bans dildos!, etc.
I don't see that with Ace. Once I read a story from a former girlfriend of Trump's that he has the worst smelling feet ever. If Ace did an article on Trump's smelly feet and how this makes unfit for the Presidency than I would understand but Ace states his opinions without the schoolyard taunts that I see at Drudge.
Drudge's headlines against Cruz have been mostly ridiculous stuff painting Cruz as some religious nut, liar, bans dildos!, etc.
I don't see that with Ace. Once I read a story from a former girlfriend of Trump's that he has the worst smelling feet ever. If Ace did an article on Trump's smelly feet and how this makes unfit for the Presidency than I would understand but Ace states his opinions without the schoolyard taunts that I see at Drudge.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2016 12:29 PM (oiNtH)
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269 >>Cruz at least has a shot at uniting people
Yeah, I'll expect he'll bring all those Trump supporters, from demographics the GOP hasn't seen in about three elections, and who they need to win electorally, are gonna come running home to mommy after being insulted, belittled and called names for the last six months.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (O0lVq)
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I read an analysis that said that Trump's expanded base of support is actually people who register as Democrats but vote Republican in general elections already. He's mainly just bringing those people into the primary.
Yeah, I'll expect he'll bring all those Trump supporters, from demographics the GOP hasn't seen in about three elections, and who they need to win electorally, are gonna come running home to mommy after being insulted, belittled and called names for the last six months.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (O0lVq)
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I read an analysis that said that Trump's expanded base of support is actually people who register as Democrats but vote Republican in general elections already. He's mainly just bringing those people into the primary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:29 PM (FdQL3)
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"because Obama's leaving in place a fortress of bureaucracy that is not easily undone."
All it takes is a pen and a phone. Seriously.
President rickb223 - sworn in at noon.
12:30 pm - ALL department heads - One page summary of Constitutional authority for your department's existence.
Please show Article & Section #. No explicit authorization and your doors are shuttered by 4:00 pm.
IOW, if the Constitution doesn't specifically call for the department, it no longer exists.
All it takes is a pen and a phone. Seriously.
President rickb223 - sworn in at noon.
12:30 pm - ALL department heads - One page summary of Constitutional authority for your department's existence.
Please show Article & Section #. No explicit authorization and your doors are shuttered by 4:00 pm.
IOW, if the Constitution doesn't specifically call for the department, it no longer exists.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (4dbPD)
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"As has been said ad nauseam - anger."
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Okay, we get it: you're a petulant child.
Now run along and let the adults figure out how to run the country.
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Okay, we get it: you're a petulant child.
Now run along and let the adults figure out how to run the country.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (A6sW3)
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So once again the consensus here is that:
Even though Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from 1,237 in a week, lose the next six primaries in April, sometimes coming third to Kasich, he'll then -- with the help of Romney-backed super PACs -- turn that around with his Mad Organizational Skills by making sure that delegates picked by actual voters are instead actually committed to Cruz, so that after Rule 40 eliminates any other potential choices, and after Trump loses the first ballot, the GOP will have no choice but to pick Cruz, given that he'll have stacked the delegate pool in his favor, whereupon he'll be the nominee, and survive the Dem/MSM onslaught that he wants to take away Social Security, let people die on hospital doorsteps, and bring back wire hanger abortions, and that he's a creepy, creepy Televangelist, to convince Joe the Plumber in Ohio that he's really, really for the little guy, and Manuela in Florida that's he's really, really Hispanic, and then usher in a new era of Constitutionalism, whatever the that means, and all will be well.
Got it.
Even though Cruz will be mathematically eliminated from 1,237 in a week, lose the next six primaries in April, sometimes coming third to Kasich, he'll then -- with the help of Romney-backed super PACs -- turn that around with his Mad Organizational Skills by making sure that delegates picked by actual voters are instead actually committed to Cruz, so that after Rule 40 eliminates any other potential choices, and after Trump loses the first ballot, the GOP will have no choice but to pick Cruz, given that he'll have stacked the delegate pool in his favor, whereupon he'll be the nominee, and survive the Dem/MSM onslaught that he wants to take away Social Security, let people die on hospital doorsteps, and bring back wire hanger abortions, and that he's a creepy, creepy Televangelist, to convince Joe the Plumber in Ohio that he's really, really for the little guy, and Manuela in Florida that's he's really, really Hispanic, and then usher in a new era of Constitutionalism, whatever the that means, and all will be well.
Got it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (bQxkN)
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Trump may well be an ill-prepared, vainglorious,
cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an
inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless
hunk of a political party.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (X6fMO)
That all would be great if Trump were not a lifelong Democrat and progressive who is EVEN NOW supporting government run healthcare, abortion and amnesty (touchback or not).
cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an
inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless
hunk of a political party.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (X6fMO)
That all would be great if Trump were not a lifelong Democrat and progressive who is EVEN NOW supporting government run healthcare, abortion and amnesty (touchback or not).
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (3JA/M)
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I don't understand the theocrat dig. Should personal convictions not guide our actions?
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Guide, yeah. His personal actions. For a leader, the Constitution comes first.
I don't understand the theocrat dig. Should personal convictions not guide our actions?
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Guide, yeah. His personal actions. For a leader, the Constitution comes first.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (pC96u)
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Does anyone here believe that there are enough "solid conservatives" spread appropriately through the electoral college landscape, to win an election on their own?
Posted by: kraken at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (sdxPm)
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279 Trump supporters are just like Trump.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 13, 2016 12:28 PM (5IbVn)
Not all of them. Many are serious people, well educated, and not prone to emotional outbursts. Those people definitely exist though as can be seen by perusing the comments on any given Trump article at Breitbart. but there are plenty of people who don't act like that at all who support Trump.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 13, 2016 12:28 PM (5IbVn)
Not all of them. Many are serious people, well educated, and not prone to emotional outbursts. Those people definitely exist though as can be seen by perusing the comments on any given Trump article at Breitbart. but there are plenty of people who don't act like that at all who support Trump.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (4ErVI)
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I'm not saying there will be riots if I'm not the nominee but I'm not saying there won't be.
Posted by: Trump just saying - again at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (5IbVn)
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WTH?
Posted by: Kreplach at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (t7mMb)
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Top five excuses after Cruz loses the general;
1- Trump destroyed our "brand"
2- Trump voters didn't show up
3- 'Rigged" election
4- The GOP didn't provide enough support
5- The MSM was up to old tricks
1- Trump destroyed our "brand"
2- Trump voters didn't show up
3- 'Rigged" election
4- The GOP didn't provide enough support
5- The MSM was up to old tricks
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (O0lVq)
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288 Guide, yeah. His personal actions. For a leader, the Constitution comes first.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (pC96u)
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I completely expect Donald Trump to put the Constitution first.
\sarc
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (pC96u)
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I completely expect Donald Trump to put the Constitution first.
\sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (FdQL3)
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The GOPe were given a golden opportunity to stop the dog-eating crackhead in his tracks. They were handed cases like Lois Lerner and Planned Murderhood where they could have shown spine, lit up the Capitol with righteous rage and made high-ranking people pay real penalties.
But they rolled over for Obama, they let Lerner laugh her way out of the room and let a literal apologist for outright murder wriggle deftly off the hook.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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And then there's Trump that says Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization and he wouldn't shut the government down in order to defund them.
Too many conservatives expected Congress to have power the Constitution doesn't give them, like putting people in prison(even though they deserve it)
Same with Hillary. If Hillary is not indicted, my guess is conservatives will blame Paul Ryan or something.
I hate GOPe, but Trump is not the answer. And many people think "volume" is going to fix everything when all the evidence shows that Trump is losing the American voter in a big way.
The GOPe were given a golden opportunity to stop the dog-eating crackhead in his tracks. They were handed cases like Lois Lerner and Planned Murderhood where they could have shown spine, lit up the Capitol with righteous rage and made high-ranking people pay real penalties.
But they rolled over for Obama, they let Lerner laugh her way out of the room and let a literal apologist for outright murder wriggle deftly off the hook.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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And then there's Trump that says Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization and he wouldn't shut the government down in order to defund them.
Too many conservatives expected Congress to have power the Constitution doesn't give them, like putting people in prison(even though they deserve it)
Same with Hillary. If Hillary is not indicted, my guess is conservatives will blame Paul Ryan or something.
I hate GOPe, but Trump is not the answer. And many people think "volume" is going to fix everything when all the evidence shows that Trump is losing the American voter in a big way.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:32 PM (A2FEp)
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Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (bQxkN
I see you're entirely unaware of how delegate selection works.
Perhaps you should click the link in my name.
I see you're entirely unaware of how delegate selection works.
Perhaps you should click the link in my name.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:32 PM (tM4uk)
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284 "because Obama's leaving in place a fortress of bureaucracy that is not easily undone."
All it takes is a pen and a phone. Seriously.
President rickb223 - sworn in at noon.
12:30 pm - ALL department heads - One page summary of Constitutional authority for your department's existence.
Please show Article & Section #. No explicit authorization and your doors are shuttered by 4:00 pm.
IOW, if the Constitution doesn't specifically call for the department, it no longer exists.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (4dbPD)
Perhaps. Though lawsuits would be filed, arguing that their right to exist came through the legislative process. And the courts seem to give deference to what the legislature want (at least it did with the ACA).
Otherwise I completely agree with you.
All it takes is a pen and a phone. Seriously.
President rickb223 - sworn in at noon.
12:30 pm - ALL department heads - One page summary of Constitutional authority for your department's existence.
Please show Article & Section #. No explicit authorization and your doors are shuttered by 4:00 pm.
IOW, if the Constitution doesn't specifically call for the department, it no longer exists.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (4dbPD)
Perhaps. Though lawsuits would be filed, arguing that their right to exist came through the legislative process. And the courts seem to give deference to what the legislature want (at least it did with the ACA).
Otherwise I completely agree with you.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (O/1LB)
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"Well The Donald has screwed the pooch three ways from breakfast in some states. Danged if he is not as incompetent as Obama."
Say what you will about Obama, but his campaign was well run.
In stark contrast to Trump.
Say what you will about Obama, but his campaign was well run.
In stark contrast to Trump.
Posted by: navybrat at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (8QGte)
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Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (4ErVI)
I don't think you picked up on the quandary I was trying to present to Trump supporters with that statement.
I don't think you picked up on the quandary I was trying to present to Trump supporters with that statement.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (5IbVn)
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Trump has driven every major issue important to voters into the spotlight. Without his urging, most of these issues would not even be at the forefront.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (O0lVq)
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Will Cruz destroy the GOP?
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (nbrY/)
See, this at least makes sense even though I don't particularly want SMOD and disagree that Trump is what we need.
No excuses for Trump's latest incompetence were included on your argument.
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (nbrY/)
See, this at least makes sense even though I don't particularly want SMOD and disagree that Trump is what we need.
No excuses for Trump's latest incompetence were included on your argument.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (jmIQu)
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282 Thank you JackStraw!
Drudge's headlines against Cruz have been mostly ridiculous stuff painting Cruz as some religious nut, liar, bans dildos!, etc.
I don't see that with Ace. Once I read a story from a former girlfriend of Trump's that he has the worst smelling feet ever. If Ace did an article on Trump's smelly feet and how this makes unfit for the Presidency than I would understand but Ace states his opinions without the schoolyard taunts that I see at Drudge.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2016 12:29 PM (oiNtH)
Saw a thing today that Glenn Beck called Cruz Moses or Moses like at some gathering.
I really think it would've been beneficial to Cruz if he'd dropped Beck like, oh, five minutes before he decided to use his services.
Drudge's headlines against Cruz have been mostly ridiculous stuff painting Cruz as some religious nut, liar, bans dildos!, etc.
I don't see that with Ace. Once I read a story from a former girlfriend of Trump's that he has the worst smelling feet ever. If Ace did an article on Trump's smelly feet and how this makes unfit for the Presidency than I would understand but Ace states his opinions without the schoolyard taunts that I see at Drudge.
Posted by: Cheri at April 13, 2016 12:29 PM (oiNtH)
Saw a thing today that Glenn Beck called Cruz Moses or Moses like at some gathering.
I really think it would've been beneficial to Cruz if he'd dropped Beck like, oh, five minutes before he decided to use his services.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (4ErVI)
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I wonder if Hop Sing ever served Chop Suey at the Ponderosa?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:34 PM (NeFrd)
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I aw this thing someone posted on Twitter - that the last guy who really understood how the delegate process works we call "Mr. President."
That's nice.
One of our problems is, We've been watching our own party shitcan its rules when they don't like the results.
And attack the winners of primaries.
And change rules.
And watched them lose to the dems, who less regard for rules than they do.
And now we're supposed to be impressed at how trump is stupid for not minding the rules (which he is, and he didn't).
The whole, follow the rules and be impressed thing doesn't have nearly the charm it once had.
Ask President McCain and Romney.
That's nice.
One of our problems is, We've been watching our own party shitcan its rules when they don't like the results.
And attack the winners of primaries.
And change rules.
And watched them lose to the dems, who less regard for rules than they do.
And now we're supposed to be impressed at how trump is stupid for not minding the rules (which he is, and he didn't).
The whole, follow the rules and be impressed thing doesn't have nearly the charm it once had.
Ask President McCain and Romney.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2016 12:34 PM (326rv)
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Will Cruz destroy the GOP?
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (nbrY/)
He also fails the inciting his followers to violence and death threats... so there is that.
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (nbrY/)
He also fails the inciting his followers to violence and death threats... so there is that.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 12:34 PM (3JA/M)
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Okay, we get it: you're a petulant child.
Now run along and let the adults figure out how to run the country.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (A6sW3)
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Back the hell off. His comment was not personal or rude to you in any way yet you respond like an asshole.
Now run along and let the adults figure out how to run the country.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (A6sW3)
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Back the hell off. His comment was not personal or rude to you in any way yet you respond like an asshole.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:34 PM (iQIUe)
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It really is a mad mad mad world.
Posted by: Kreplach at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (t7mMb)
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I don't understand the theocrat dig. Should personal convictions not guide our actions?
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Guide, yeah. His personal actions. For a leader, the Constitution comes first.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (pC96u)
Ok... And has he somewhere demonstrated that he makes the constitution say what he doesn't want it to?
I don't understand the theocrat dig. Should personal convictions not guide our actions?
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Guide, yeah. His personal actions. For a leader, the Constitution comes first.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (pC96u)
Ok... And has he somewhere demonstrated that he makes the constitution say what he doesn't want it to?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (O/1LB)
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Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (X6fMO)
Doesn't matter. He's too embarrassing. Goodness, man, have you no threshold?
Doesn't matter. He's too embarrassing. Goodness, man, have you no threshold?
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (nbrY/)
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Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (O0lVq)
No only one. Trump voters will stay home. I for one do not think Cruz can win at this point.
No only one. Trump voters will stay home. I for one do not think Cruz can win at this point.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (5IbVn)
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Top five excuses after Cruz loses the general
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If Cruz loses it's going to be primarily because the Free Shit Army did their quadrennial showing-up-at-the-office-to-vote-for-a-living.
That and bitter Trump people sitting out.
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If Cruz loses it's going to be primarily because the Free Shit Army did their quadrennial showing-up-at-the-office-to-vote-for-a-living.
That and bitter Trump people sitting out.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (26zxJ)
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I completely expect Donald Trump to put the Constitution first.
\sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (FdQL3)
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I don't. I didn't say anything about Trump, not that I'm saying you said I did.
I completely expect Donald Trump to put the Constitution first.
\sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (FdQL3)
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I don't. I didn't say anything about Trump, not that I'm saying you said I did.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (pC96u)
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Tucker Carlson blew the whistle on the GOPe re: abortion a couple of weeks ago. He said that among the DC conservatives he moves among (yes that's two amongs), most are pro-choice, or at least a lot more pro-choice than they protest publicly.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (dciA+)I've been saying that for a long time. The GOP panjandrums absolutely want abortions of convenience, either because they've just knocked up their hot little staffer, or because Muffy just brought DeShayquan home to Mommy and Daddy instead of that nice Skip Cholmondely from Wharton.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (dciA+)I've been saying that for a long time. The GOP panjandrums absolutely want abortions of convenience, either because they've just knocked up their hot little staffer, or because Muffy just brought DeShayquan home to Mommy and Daddy instead of that nice Skip Cholmondely from Wharton.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:36 PM (X6fMO)
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And whatever jackass sent out the Colorado GOP stop trump thing was brilliant. Made it look at though the state party got an official goal accomplished.
Nice use of kerosene in an enclosed space.
Nice use of kerosene in an enclosed space.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2016 12:36 PM (326rv)
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No only one. Trump voters will stay home. I for one do not think Cruz can win at this point.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (5IbVn)
My interactions with Trump voters thusfar have shown people who are already sitting out elections anyway.
So net=0 anecdotally.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (5IbVn)
My interactions with Trump voters thusfar have shown people who are already sitting out elections anyway.
So net=0 anecdotally.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at April 13, 2016 12:36 PM (tM4uk)
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"Back the hell off. His comment was not personal or rude to you in any way yet you respond like an asshole."
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
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If you're voting for Trump because you're angry, you're a petulant child. And you should run along and play with the other petulant children.
Come up with an actual rational reason to vote for Trump and we'll talk. Until then, run along.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!
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If you're voting for Trump because you're angry, you're a petulant child. And you should run along and play with the other petulant children.
Come up with an actual rational reason to vote for Trump and we'll talk. Until then, run along.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:37 PM (aFa2V)
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Trump may well be an ill-prepared, vainglorious, cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless hunk of a political party.
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Well said, MP4.
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Well said, MP4.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 13, 2016 12:37 PM (kTF2Z)
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When America sees Cruz leading them to The Promised Land, a land where dildos are illegal, the voices of angels will tell all Americans that their new savior has come!
Posted by: Glenn Beck at April 13, 2016 12:37 PM (RcpcZ)
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303 I wonder if Hop Sing ever served Chop Suey at the Ponderosa?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:34 PM (NeFrd)
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Of course! They were all great Americans at the Ponderosa ranch.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:34 PM (NeFrd)
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Of course! They were all great Americans at the Ponderosa ranch.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (iQIUe)
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Trump has been able to work this "corrupt" system to his advantage up til now. Open primaries, allowing independents and democrats to vote for our candidate, winner take all states and an unbelievable amount of free advertising via talk radio and TV made it easy to grab votes before people began to realize how unprepared Trump really is. Now closed primaries and caucuses and other methods where only Republicans get to decide are benefiting Cruz and his name recognition and policies stand out with fewer candidates in the race and all of a sudden, the process is unfair.
Posted by: sharon at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (QzF6i)
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Just as an anecdote, my brother is a Trump guy, and I think a big part of the reason he got there was because he's convinced Cruz will lose, so we might as well have a guy that will take some swings at Hillary.
The religious stuff also does bother him, he's a secular leaning guy and I will say Cruz attempting to woo Evangelicals was over the top, and I attend an Evangelical Church.
I have another family member as well that wrote him off because he felt like it was a "700 Club" type Republican.
All of them will likely vote Cruz though in the General if he's the nominee.
The religious stuff also does bother him, he's a secular leaning guy and I will say Cruz attempting to woo Evangelicals was over the top, and I attend an Evangelical Church.
I have another family member as well that wrote him off because he felt like it was a "700 Club" type Republican.
All of them will likely vote Cruz though in the General if he's the nominee.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (A2FEp)
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Ok... And has he somewhere demonstrated that he makes the constitution say what he doesn't want it to?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (O/1LB)
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Take that up with the gentleman who said he considers Cruz a theocrat.
Ok... And has he somewhere demonstrated that he makes the constitution say what he doesn't want it to?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (O/1LB)
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Take that up with the gentleman who said he considers Cruz a theocrat.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (pC96u)
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"Cruz at least has a shot at uniting people"
Days before Italian heavy NY with Italian heavy NJ to follow, Cruz is on TV here saying Trump has mob ties and that the White House shouldn't become La Cosa Nostra.
New York Values!
Days before Italian heavy NY with Italian heavy NJ to follow, Cruz is on TV here saying Trump has mob ties and that the White House shouldn't become La Cosa Nostra.
New York Values!
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (bQxkN)
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I completely expect Donald Trump to put the Constitution first.
\sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (FdQL3)
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I don't. I didn't say anything about Trump, not that I'm saying you said I did.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (pC96u)
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I realized I was unclear after I wrote it, but the comment wasn't really directed at you. More in reaction to you and directed into the ether of the comment board.
That's my bad.
I completely expect Donald Trump to put the Constitution first.
\sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:31 PM (FdQL3)
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I don't. I didn't say anything about Trump, not that I'm saying you said I did.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:35 PM (pC96u)
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I realized I was unclear after I wrote it, but the comment wasn't really directed at you. More in reaction to you and directed into the ether of the comment board.
That's my bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:39 PM (FdQL3)
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I don't know what Hop Sing thought he was doing standing around at the ranch when he should've been doing something important, like the laundry or building a railroad.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:39 PM (4ErVI)
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Trump may well be an ill-prepared, vainglorious, cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless hunk of a political party.
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Well said, MP4.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 13, 2016 12:37 PM (kTF2Z)
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Ditto.
Trump may well be an ill-prepared, vainglorious, cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless hunk of a political party.
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Well said, MP4.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 13, 2016 12:37 PM (kTF2Z)
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Ditto.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:40 PM (pC96u)
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"Cruz at least has a shot at uniting people"
Days before Italian heavy NY with Italian heavy NJ to follow, Cruz is on TV here saying Trump has mob ties and that the White House shouldn't become La Cosa Nostra.
New York Values!
Posted by: Ignoramus
What?
Days before Italian heavy NY with Italian heavy NJ to follow, Cruz is on TV here saying Trump has mob ties and that the White House shouldn't become La Cosa Nostra.
New York Values!
Posted by: Ignoramus
What?
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 13, 2016 12:40 PM (326rv)
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ucker Carlson blew the whistle on the GOPe re: abortion a couple of weeks ago. He said that among the DC conservatives he moves among (yes that's two amongs), most are pro-choice, or at least a lot more pro-choice than they protest publicly.
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (dciA+)I've been saying that for a long time. The GOP panjandrums absolutely want abortions of convenience, either because they've just knocked up their hot little staffer, or because Muffy just brought DeShayquan home to Mommy and Daddy instead of that nice Skip Cholmondely from Wharton.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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Trump has said he doesn't want to change any abortion laws. That's pro-choice, so where's the outrage towards him?
Posted by: ace at April 13, 2016 12:08 PM (dciA+)I've been saying that for a long time. The GOP panjandrums absolutely want abortions of convenience, either because they've just knocked up their hot little staffer, or because Muffy just brought DeShayquan home to Mommy and Daddy instead of that nice Skip Cholmondely from Wharton.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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Trump has said he doesn't want to change any abortion laws. That's pro-choice, so where's the outrage towards him?
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:40 PM (A2FEp)
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If you're voting for Trump because you're angry, you're a petulant child. And you should run along and play with the other petulant children.
Come up with an actual rational reason to vote for Trump and we'll talk. Until then, run along.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:37 PM (aFa2V)
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He didnt say who he was voting for. You just insulted him bc you're an ahole. You run along.
Come up with an actual rational reason to vote for Trump and we'll talk. Until then, run along.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:37 PM (aFa2V)
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He didnt say who he was voting for. You just insulted him bc you're an ahole. You run along.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:40 PM (iQIUe)
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Of course! They were all great Americans at the Ponderosa ranch.
******
Little Joe was twice the man Hoss was.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
******
Little Joe was twice the man Hoss was.
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:40 PM (NeFrd)
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"I'm a little unclear how we got from "burn it down" to Trump is the
anti-Christ who will destroy life as we know it. So we need to rally
against him.
Seems a bit dishonest at best."
I definitely think it is inconsistent. Trump is "burn it down" personified. I don't know- maybe some people realized that what he is most likely to burn down is the Republican party. When push comes to shove, I'm just not sure how many here are enthusiastic about having Democrats in complete control of the federal government for the foreseeable future.
anti-Christ who will destroy life as we know it. So we need to rally
against him.
Seems a bit dishonest at best."
I definitely think it is inconsistent. Trump is "burn it down" personified. I don't know- maybe some people realized that what he is most likely to burn down is the Republican party. When push comes to shove, I'm just not sure how many here are enthusiastic about having Democrats in complete control of the federal government for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: Myself at April 13, 2016 12:41 PM (5wiU6)
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240 Will Cruz destroy the GOP?
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
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Problem is that while Trump may indeed destroy the hated GOP, he will also destroy what is left of this country. It's throwing the baby out with the bath water...cutting off your nose to spite your face...
I'm not willing to do that. I haven't given up on America.
No.
So he fails the SMOD test.
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Problem is that while Trump may indeed destroy the hated GOP, he will also destroy what is left of this country. It's throwing the baby out with the bath water...cutting off your nose to spite your face...
I'm not willing to do that. I haven't given up on America.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 12:41 PM (E6RIJ)
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321 Just as an anecdote, my brother is a Trump guy, and I think a big part of the reason he got there was because he's convinced Cruz will lose, so we might as well have a guy that will take some swings at Hillary.
The religious stuff also does bother him, he's a secular leaning guy and I will say Cruz attempting to woo Evangelicals was over the top, and I attend an Evangelical Church.
I have another family member as well that wrote him off because he felt like it was a "700 Club" type Republican.
All of them will likely vote Cruz though in the General if he's the nominee.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (A2FEp)
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Trump will throw a bunch of wild punches and a handful will land.
Cruz will be more surgical and lay her out with a few well placed blows.
That's my read, at least.
The religious stuff also does bother him, he's a secular leaning guy and I will say Cruz attempting to woo Evangelicals was over the top, and I attend an Evangelical Church.
I have another family member as well that wrote him off because he felt like it was a "700 Club" type Republican.
All of them will likely vote Cruz though in the General if he's the nominee.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (A2FEp)
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Trump will throw a bunch of wild punches and a handful will land.
Cruz will be more surgical and lay her out with a few well placed blows.
That's my read, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:41 PM (FdQL3)
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I realized I was unclear after I wrote it, but the comment wasn't really directed at you. More in reaction to you and directed into the ether of the comment board.
That's my bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:39 PM (FdQL3)
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No, no. As I said, "not that I'm saying you said I did." I'm talking at the ether a lot, too.
I realized I was unclear after I wrote it, but the comment wasn't really directed at you. More in reaction to you and directed into the ether of the comment board.
That's my bad.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:39 PM (FdQL3)
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No, no. As I said, "not that I'm saying you said I did." I'm talking at the ether a lot, too.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:41 PM (pC96u)
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The banning dilldos thing sadly will become a real attack line that Cruz will have to defend and have an answer ready when it comes up. If Drudge didn't put it out there, the MFM would eventually.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (2x3L+)
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Is Cruz GOPe? He walking the path to the dark side right now.
And if Cruz wins that way, on the nomination floor through a fight he will have to owe the establishment something in order to win it.
He can't take their money and their votes to without owing something in return.
His journey will be complete. He will be corrupted, he will become Vader.
And if Cruz wins that way, on the nomination floor through a fight he will have to owe the establishment something in order to win it.
He can't take their money and their votes to without owing something in return.
His journey will be complete. He will be corrupted, he will become Vader.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (10hEu)
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OT: I'm considering the Moonbeam Jerry Brown standard regarding Bono's plan to defeat ISIS, it makes no sense but let's do it anyway.
Bono told the Senate to "send in" Amy Schumer, Chris Rock and Sacha Baron Cohen to counter extremists. Laughter takes "away their power"
Bono told the Senate to "send in" Amy Schumer, Chris Rock and Sacha Baron Cohen to counter extremists. Laughter takes "away their power"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:43 PM (Nwg0u)
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335 The banning dilldos thing sadly will become a real attack line that Cruz will have to defend and have an answer ready when it comes up. If Drudge didn't put it out there, the MFM would eventually.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (2x3L+)
Agreed. Nothing is too stupid for the MSM. Remember the tampons and Romney thing?
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (2x3L+)
Agreed. Nothing is too stupid for the MSM. Remember the tampons and Romney thing?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:43 PM (4ErVI)
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Trump will throw a bunch of wild punches and a handful will land.
Cruz will be more surgical and lay her out with a few well placed blows.
That's my read, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:41 PM (FdQL3)
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"I'll talk about your husband's sexual behavior" was damn good. "Worst secretary of state ever" is good.
The kink is, I think he'll be running against the late Beau Biden's father.
Trump will throw a bunch of wild punches and a handful will land.
Cruz will be more surgical and lay her out with a few well placed blows.
That's my read, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:41 PM (FdQL3)
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"I'll talk about your husband's sexual behavior" was damn good. "Worst secretary of state ever" is good.
The kink is, I think he'll be running against the late Beau Biden's father.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:43 PM (pC96u)
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"Trump may well be an ill-prepared, vainglorious, cocksure con man, but he sure as hell has ripped the masks off an inordinate number of "moderate," "reasonable" voices in this worthless hunk of a political party.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (X6fMO)"
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No "may" about it. He is ill-prepared and all the rest. You're also totally right that he's exposed a lot of people. I'll always be grateful to him for driving Jeb Bush out of the race. However, just because he's saying the right things about several important issues and helped thin the field a lot doesn't make him the right nominee.
The goal is to win the general election, and do something to stop illegal immigration, reduce legal immigration, rip out Obamacare before it destroys American health care, etc. Trump can say the words, but he doesn't really know what to do to accomplish them. He's a smart guy with good instincts, but he misjudged what it would take to win this nomination AND the general election. He's not going to beat Hillary Clinton relying on free media and celebrity status. It will take a hard aggressive GOTV effort and rallying all wings of the GOP to support him. He hasn't built that infrastructure, isn't willing to spend what it take to build it now, and has spent the last 6 months alienating much of the GOP base he needs to vote for him. Cruz has done the hard work and built a campaign that's unfolding over all 50 states including hostile territory like New York. He obviously can't stand Trump, but he hasn't trashed Trump's supporters in the nasty, personal way that many #NeverTrump people have.
I will vote for whoever gets the nomination because as a swing state voter, I don't have the luxury of venting my spleen with a write-in vote. We have to try to win the White House, hang onto the Senate/House, and get that Supreme Court nomination. If Trump is the nominee, he gets my vote despite how little I think of him or his chances of victory in November.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (X6fMO)"
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No "may" about it. He is ill-prepared and all the rest. You're also totally right that he's exposed a lot of people. I'll always be grateful to him for driving Jeb Bush out of the race. However, just because he's saying the right things about several important issues and helped thin the field a lot doesn't make him the right nominee.
The goal is to win the general election, and do something to stop illegal immigration, reduce legal immigration, rip out Obamacare before it destroys American health care, etc. Trump can say the words, but he doesn't really know what to do to accomplish them. He's a smart guy with good instincts, but he misjudged what it would take to win this nomination AND the general election. He's not going to beat Hillary Clinton relying on free media and celebrity status. It will take a hard aggressive GOTV effort and rallying all wings of the GOP to support him. He hasn't built that infrastructure, isn't willing to spend what it take to build it now, and has spent the last 6 months alienating much of the GOP base he needs to vote for him. Cruz has done the hard work and built a campaign that's unfolding over all 50 states including hostile territory like New York. He obviously can't stand Trump, but he hasn't trashed Trump's supporters in the nasty, personal way that many #NeverTrump people have.
I will vote for whoever gets the nomination because as a swing state voter, I don't have the luxury of venting my spleen with a write-in vote. We have to try to win the White House, hang onto the Senate/House, and get that Supreme Court nomination. If Trump is the nominee, he gets my vote despite how little I think of him or his chances of victory in November.
Posted by: Jill v2 at April 13, 2016 12:44 PM (QjqR3)
341
"I could easily spend 1000 words on the divisiveness of his "New York
values" comment, which was not only polarizing but stupid, wrong-headed,
simple-minded, reductive, blind, unAmerican, unpresidential,
unleaderly, elitist, smug, dismissive, punitive, sanctimonious, and
repulsive, among other things."
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Who came into Wisconsin and insulted the people of Wisconsin and their governor? I realize that only NY matters for some people, but there is a big country out there and a big proportion of those voters do not care how NY runs their own state as long as NY stays out of theirs.
values" comment, which was not only polarizing but stupid, wrong-headed,
simple-minded, reductive, blind, unAmerican, unpresidential,
unleaderly, elitist, smug, dismissive, punitive, sanctimonious, and
repulsive, among other things."
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Who came into Wisconsin and insulted the people of Wisconsin and their governor? I realize that only NY matters for some people, but there is a big country out there and a big proportion of those voters do not care how NY runs their own state as long as NY stays out of theirs.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 13, 2016 12:44 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:45 PM (NeFrd)
343
>>The banning dilldos thing sadly will become a real attack line that Cruz will have to defend and have an answer ready when it comes up. If Drudge didn't put it out there, the MFM would eventually.
Pretty easy. It was his job as Texas solicitor general to defend the laws of the state of Texas.
Pretty easy. It was his job as Texas solicitor general to defend the laws of the state of Texas.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2016 12:45 PM (/tuJf)
344
Hi,
Why is it that Trump does not have even passible surrogates?
Ben
Carson is so obviously conflicted about supporting Trump, and Sarah
Palin's incoherance seems worse than ever. How is Trump going to do
well in the general without better surrogates?
Cruz' surrogates do a much better job, pehaps because he is running on policies, and not on a cult of personality.
This will matter in the general, as the campaign will have to be carried on in the entire country, and not state by state.
Trump will be dependant on the RNP for his ground game, go to Vote, and perhaps even financing.
Even
Cruz' detractors agree that he has an excellent campaign staff, and
grassroots organization, and that Cruz and his staff are very
disciplined and hard working.
If Trump wins the primary, the
democrats will parade individuals who have been injured by Trump and his
companies, as well as attacking Trump on every ill thought out policy
he has ever supported, as per normal.
Trump can get into the
weeds with anyone, but how well can he defend policy positions? Can he
win anyone over with anything other than charm and bluster?
Cruz
can only win the primary by winning over detractors, and by succeeding
in uniting much of the party. He will at that point have demonstrated a
skill set that will make him competetive in the general.
Why is it that Trump does not have even passible surrogates?
Ben
Carson is so obviously conflicted about supporting Trump, and Sarah
Palin's incoherance seems worse than ever. How is Trump going to do
well in the general without better surrogates?
Cruz' surrogates do a much better job, pehaps because he is running on policies, and not on a cult of personality.
This will matter in the general, as the campaign will have to be carried on in the entire country, and not state by state.
Trump will be dependant on the RNP for his ground game, go to Vote, and perhaps even financing.
Even
Cruz' detractors agree that he has an excellent campaign staff, and
grassroots organization, and that Cruz and his staff are very
disciplined and hard working.
If Trump wins the primary, the
democrats will parade individuals who have been injured by Trump and his
companies, as well as attacking Trump on every ill thought out policy
he has ever supported, as per normal.
Trump can get into the
weeds with anyone, but how well can he defend policy positions? Can he
win anyone over with anything other than charm and bluster?
Cruz
can only win the primary by winning over detractors, and by succeeding
in uniting much of the party. He will at that point have demonstrated a
skill set that will make him competetive in the general.
Posted by: Trudy at April 13, 2016 12:46 PM (LDjgj)
345
I didn't know about the dildo thing with Cruz, that's one of those dumb issues though that can sink him easily.
On one hand, we have Democrats with stupid transgender nonsense, on the other side we have SoCons wanting to ban dildos.
Can't conservatives carve out a reasonable center?
On one hand, we have Democrats with stupid transgender nonsense, on the other side we have SoCons wanting to ban dildos.
Can't conservatives carve out a reasonable center?
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (A2FEp)
346
Top five excuses after Trump loses the GOP nomination:
1. They cheated!
2. They cheated!
3. They cheated!
4. They cheated!
5. They cheated!
1. They cheated!
2. They cheated!
3. They cheated!
4. They cheated!
5. They cheated!
Posted by: Myself at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (5wiU6)
347
336 Is Cruz GOPe? He walking the path to the dark side right now.
And if Cruz wins that way, on the nomination floor through a fight he will have to owe the establishment something in order to win it.
He can't take their money and their votes to without owing something in return.
His journey will be complete. He will be corrupted, he will become Vader.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (10hEu)
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The GOPe will owe him too, for saving them from Donald Trump.
Plus, he'll be head of the party, and, until (if/when) he gets elected president, he'll have one of the most prominent bully pulpits in the nation.
There's a reason the GOPe doesn't nominate true conservatives for president and then try to win them over afterwards, and it's not because they think they can control someone who rose to power as a firebrand. They want someone copacetic to their views already because they know that once you achieve that spot, they have very little power over him/her.
History is a good lesson here. A small (but illuminating) example from a very different era is the election of Zachary Taylor. The party nominated him because he was a blank slate and a war hero, but they couldn't convince him to say the right things on slavery, so they sweated hard until he came out with the Allison letter which ended up saying just enough (but ultimately nothing at all) which made them feel better.
And if Cruz wins that way, on the nomination floor through a fight he will have to owe the establishment something in order to win it.
He can't take their money and their votes to without owing something in return.
His journey will be complete. He will be corrupted, he will become Vader.
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (10hEu)
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The GOPe will owe him too, for saving them from Donald Trump.
Plus, he'll be head of the party, and, until (if/when) he gets elected president, he'll have one of the most prominent bully pulpits in the nation.
There's a reason the GOPe doesn't nominate true conservatives for president and then try to win them over afterwards, and it's not because they think they can control someone who rose to power as a firebrand. They want someone copacetic to their views already because they know that once you achieve that spot, they have very little power over him/her.
History is a good lesson here. A small (but illuminating) example from a very different era is the election of Zachary Taylor. The party nominated him because he was a blank slate and a war hero, but they couldn't convince him to say the right things on slavery, so they sweated hard until he came out with the Allison letter which ended up saying just enough (but ultimately nothing at all) which made them feel better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (FdQL3)
348
We need pols like the brits:
"Between August 2013 and February 2014, I had a relationship with someone who I first met through Match.com. She was a similar age and lived close to me. At no time did she give me any indication of of her real occupation and I only discovered this when I was made aware that someone was trying to sell a story about me to tabloid newspapers. As soon as I discovered, I ended the relationship.
This is an old story which was a bit embarrassing at the time. The events occurred long before I took up my present position and it has never had any influence on the decisions I have made as Culture Secretary."
http://goo.gl/TPJHO4
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IOW, he hooked up with a dominatrix hooker.
We need pols like the brits:
"Between August 2013 and February 2014, I had a relationship with someone who I first met through Match.com. She was a similar age and lived close to me. At no time did she give me any indication of of her real occupation and I only discovered this when I was made aware that someone was trying to sell a story about me to tabloid newspapers. As soon as I discovered, I ended the relationship.
This is an old story which was a bit embarrassing at the time. The events occurred long before I took up my present position and it has never had any influence on the decisions I have made as Culture Secretary."
http://goo.gl/TPJHO4
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IOW, he hooked up with a dominatrix hooker.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (iQIUe)
349
Bono told the Senate to "send in" Amy Schumer, Chris Rock and Sacha Baron Cohen to counter extremists. Laughter takes "away their power"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:43 PM (Nwg0u)
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The U.S. Senate gave this guy floor time. At least when Trump does it, he won't be pretending to be a sober, elevated man in a gray suit who does these things for reasons that only smart insiders would understand.
Bono told the Senate to "send in" Amy Schumer, Chris Rock and Sacha Baron Cohen to counter extremists. Laughter takes "away their power"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:43 PM (Nwg0u)
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The U.S. Senate gave this guy floor time. At least when Trump does it, he won't be pretending to be a sober, elevated man in a gray suit who does these things for reasons that only smart insiders would understand.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:48 PM (pC96u)
350
Ponderosa! That used to be a steakhouse, I think? My parents always used to say if they ever got rich that they would take the family out to dinner at the Ponderosa. They eventually got rich, but we never got to go to the Ponderosa.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:48 PM (2x3L+)
351
339 "I'll talk about your husband's sexual behavior" was damn good. "Worst secretary of state ever" is good.
The kink is, I think he'll be running against the late Beau Biden's father.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:43 PM (pC96u)
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Cruz won't talk about Bill's sexual history (I've seen polls where it doesn't really move much anyway), but he'll be very hard on Hillary's time at state. He'll know very well what he's talking about, bringing up very specific points, while Trump would probably keep it pretty general allowing Hillary to just laugh off the rantings of someone who doesn't actually know what he's talking about.
The kink is, I think he'll be running against the late Beau Biden's father.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:43 PM (pC96u)
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Cruz won't talk about Bill's sexual history (I've seen polls where it doesn't really move much anyway), but he'll be very hard on Hillary's time at state. He'll know very well what he's talking about, bringing up very specific points, while Trump would probably keep it pretty general allowing Hillary to just laugh off the rantings of someone who doesn't actually know what he's talking about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:48 PM (FdQL3)
352
#46 a self-funding self-proclaimed decibillionaire has to judicious in his spending? Seriously?
Trump could sell one building and BUY the nomination cash on the barrel head.
Trump could sell one building and BUY the nomination cash on the barrel head.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 13, 2016 12:49 PM (Kucy5)
353
Once again your persuasive skills are employed to their full effect. And here I thought the best outcome possible would only be burning down GOP Inc. What's surprising is the number of useful idiots who want to jump into bed with the smoldering corpse.
Posted by: Born Free at April 13, 2016 12:50 PM (5YU+T)
354
We'd best pray as Daniel prayed, identifying ourselves with our people, and praying for them and us accordingly. We're in for a roller coaster of an election and Lord only knows what follows. The election news has become so asinine, I cannot even make a good joke about it anymore. o_o Holy cow, we're really doing this.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal
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As it happens, today is the anniversary of the birth of Mr. Jefferson. A quote may be in order. Liberals often crow that Jefferson was a Deist, and therefore not a particularly religious fellow, or a Christian. Well, that depends upon one's perspective.
At any rate, I offer two quotes, the first, an intro by JFK, at a WH dinner for Nobel Prize winners:
"Probably the greatest concentration of talent and genius in this house except for perhaps those times when Thomas Jefferson ate alone."
From Jefferson:
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever."
Posted by: Kinley Ardal
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As it happens, today is the anniversary of the birth of Mr. Jefferson. A quote may be in order. Liberals often crow that Jefferson was a Deist, and therefore not a particularly religious fellow, or a Christian. Well, that depends upon one's perspective.
At any rate, I offer two quotes, the first, an intro by JFK, at a WH dinner for Nobel Prize winners:
"Probably the greatest concentration of talent and genius in this house except for perhaps those times when Thomas Jefferson ate alone."
From Jefferson:
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2016 12:50 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: sharon at April 13, 2016 12:50 PM (QzF6i)
356
Can't conservatives carve out a reasonable center?
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (A2FEp)
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I wish everyone would shut up about their religious beliefs.
Can't conservatives carve out a reasonable center?
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (A2FEp)
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I wish everyone would shut up about their religious beliefs.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:51 PM (pC96u)
357
Okay, we get it: you're a petulant child.
Now run along and let the adults figure out how to run the country. Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (A6sW3)An explanation was asked. I offered one.Take your condescension and shove it up your ass.
Now run along and let the adults figure out how to run the country. Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:30 PM (A6sW3)An explanation was asked. I offered one.Take your condescension and shove it up your ass.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 13, 2016 12:51 PM (X6fMO)
358
How degraded is the election and this country that dildos have to be discussed about a presidential candidate? Trump has all his own clown show circus stuff that we barely know about. This is all going to get much worse.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:51 PM (2x3L+)
359
Some people love oligarchy and some don't...Fans of how Colorado did things and think it is cool...are Oligarchs.
Period...
Period...
Posted by: William Eaton at April 13, 2016 12:51 PM (KhJh8)
360
a self-funding self-proclaimed decibillionaire has to judicious in his spending? Seriously?
Trump could sell one building and BUY the nomination cash on the barrel head.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe
Does he even really own these buildings?
Trump is a Potemkin billionaire, I could see the guy spending like $50 million and calling it a day.
If we get outspent 20-1, we'll lose. It's that simple.
Trump does not have the resources to self-fund a Presidential campaign.
Trump could sell one building and BUY the nomination cash on the barrel head.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe
Does he even really own these buildings?
Trump is a Potemkin billionaire, I could see the guy spending like $50 million and calling it a day.
If we get outspent 20-1, we'll lose. It's that simple.
Trump does not have the resources to self-fund a Presidential campaign.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:52 PM (A2FEp)
361
Trump could sell one building and BUY the nomination cash on the barrel head.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 13, 2016 12:49 PM
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Problem is Trump doesn't own all those buildings. He just sold his name to them.
No one really knows how much Trump is truly worth and he won't release his tax returns. Estimates are he is worth much less than his claimed $8 billion. For instance, he values his name at $2 billion. LOL
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 13, 2016 12:49 PM
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Problem is Trump doesn't own all those buildings. He just sold his name to them.
No one really knows how much Trump is truly worth and he won't release his tax returns. Estimates are he is worth much less than his claimed $8 billion. For instance, he values his name at $2 billion. LOL
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 12:53 PM (E6RIJ)
362
Hills made a real mess of the mid east. By taking out our allies, she open the door to ISIS coming in.
Hills made a real mess of the mid east. By taking out our allies, she open the door to ISIS coming in.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:53 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:53 PM (A6sW3)
364
Cruz said:
"Donald needs to understand he's not Michael Corleone," Cruz said, a reference to The Godfather films. "I understand Donald has had some very shady business deals with people who are currently in prison...but the presidency should not be la cosa nostra."
Expect the NY Post to have fun with this. NY/NJ Italians love mob references like this.
"Donald needs to understand he's not Michael Corleone," Cruz said, a reference to The Godfather films. "I understand Donald has had some very shady business deals with people who are currently in prison...but the presidency should not be la cosa nostra."
Expect the NY Post to have fun with this. NY/NJ Italians love mob references like this.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 12:53 PM (bQxkN)
365
The banning dilldos thing sadly will become a real attack line that Cruz will have to defend and have an answer ready when it comes up. If Drudge didn't put it out there, the MFM would eventually.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (2x3L+)
No, not really. Cruz will repeat what he's said before when pressed on these issues. "I was Solicitor General of the State of Texas. I don't make moral judgements on the cases I make but defend the interests and rights of the State of Texas with regards to the federal government.".
You don't run a successful campaign based on fear. Look at Trump. The bastard shoves his foot in his mouth almost daily and gets away with it by not apologizing. Cruz likewise has never apologized for his work for the State of Texas.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (2x3L+)
No, not really. Cruz will repeat what he's said before when pressed on these issues. "I was Solicitor General of the State of Texas. I don't make moral judgements on the cases I make but defend the interests and rights of the State of Texas with regards to the federal government.".
You don't run a successful campaign based on fear. Look at Trump. The bastard shoves his foot in his mouth almost daily and gets away with it by not apologizing. Cruz likewise has never apologized for his work for the State of Texas.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 13, 2016 12:53 PM (/E+t2)
366
Stirring the pot further, Katie Pavlich reports Chelsea has gone on the payroll of a hedge fund with a no-show job.
I might have added that last little part, because Chelsea obviously doesn't know shit about markets and this is the most obvious payoff in the long history of Clinton payoffs.
This is warning #4,312 to Democrat voters, by the way, that you cannot believe Hillary when she criticizes Wall Street.
I might have added that last little part, because Chelsea obviously doesn't know shit about markets and this is the most obvious payoff in the long history of Clinton payoffs.
This is warning #4,312 to Democrat voters, by the way, that you cannot believe Hillary when she criticizes Wall Street.
Posted by: MTF at April 13, 2016 12:53 PM (/m8T6)
367
Seriously, Hills is ISIS friend. Look at all she has done for them?
Seriously, Hills is ISIS friend. Look at all she has done for them?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:53 PM (iQIUe)
368
At any rate, I offer two quotes, the first, an intro by JFK, at a WH dinner for Nobel Prize winners:
"Probably the greatest concentration of talent and genius in this house except for perhaps those times when Thomas Jefferson ate alone."
Jefferson was no genius ... and he was a real dick. The greatest thing Jefferson ever did was become a total hypocrite, go against everything he had long screamed about, and make the Louisiana Purchase. Other than that ... meh.
"Probably the greatest concentration of talent and genius in this house except for perhaps those times when Thomas Jefferson ate alone."
Jefferson was no genius ... and he was a real dick. The greatest thing Jefferson ever did was become a total hypocrite, go against everything he had long screamed about, and make the Louisiana Purchase. Other than that ... meh.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM (zc3Db)
369
My opinion is that the best outcome would be the defeat of Hillary.
'Best', here, means the least damaging to the Republic.
My opinion is that the best outcome would be the defeat of Hillary.
'Best', here, means the least damaging to the Republic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM (9mTYi)
370
Problem is that while Trump may indeed destroy the hated GOP, he will also destroy what is left of this country.
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How?
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How?
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM (nbrY/)
371
Wow - the seminar Trump callers who call into Rush's show are so obvious it's sad.
Seriously people - give it up, you can be spotted a mile away.
Can't have honest debate with people like that. Plenty of good reasons to like Trump instead of Cruz, but when you whine and complain about the stuff they do - it's sad to see.
Seriously people - give it up, you can be spotted a mile away.
Can't have honest debate with people like that. Plenty of good reasons to like Trump instead of Cruz, but when you whine and complain about the stuff they do - it's sad to see.
Posted by: Reality Man at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM (Ch0fq)
372
#105 Paul Manafort lobbyist for Saudis against Israel and Putin against Ukraine. Top. Man. Real DC outsider...ow. My sarc gland just popped.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 13, 2016 12:55 PM (Kucy5)
373
Trump owns the media.
The media owns the Republicans / Cruz.
Whoever controls the media, the images, controls the culture and wins.
By default Ace supports Secretary Clinton.
The media owns the Republicans / Cruz.
Whoever controls the media, the images, controls the culture and wins.
By default Ace supports Secretary Clinton.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 12:55 PM (TRksN)
374
He'll know very well what he's talking about, bringing up very specific points, while Trump would probably keep it pretty general
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:48 PM (FdQL3)
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Probably. The question is, does that win? I don't mean to be pointlessly argumentative. I just feel one can't be cynical enough.
" allowing Hillary to just laugh off the rantings of someone who doesn't actually know what he's talking about."
That could go very badly for Hillary.
He'll know very well what he's talking about, bringing up very specific points, while Trump would probably keep it pretty general
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:48 PM (FdQL3)
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Probably. The question is, does that win? I don't mean to be pointlessly argumentative. I just feel one can't be cynical enough.
" allowing Hillary to just laugh off the rantings of someone who doesn't actually know what he's talking about."
That could go very badly for Hillary.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:56 PM (pC96u)
375
I wish everyone would shut up about their religious beliefs.
Posted by: iforgot
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Yeah, the next thing you know, people will be quoting old dead white guys, like Washington.
It's boring.
Posted by: iforgot
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Yeah, the next thing you know, people will be quoting old dead white guys, like Washington.
It's boring.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2016 12:56 PM (9mTYi)
376
I'll vote Cruz if he's nominated.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 12:57 PM (TRksN)
377
Anybody watch Billy Bathgate? Is it any good?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:57 PM (iQIUe)
378
An explanation was asked. I offered one. Take your condescension and shove it up your ass.
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Your explanation was that people are angry. That's childish. Go fuck yourself.
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Your explanation was that people are angry. That's childish. Go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at April 13, 2016 12:57 PM (A6sW3)
379
Chelsea has gone on the payroll of a hedge fund with a no-show job.
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Aw, that's just to tide her over for a few weeks 'til her Pediatric Cardiology certificate arrives in the mail.
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Aw, that's just to tide her over for a few weeks 'til her Pediatric Cardiology certificate arrives in the mail.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:58 PM (NeFrd)
380
I find it remarkable, that by contrast with Teh Donald, Richard Nixon was the very picture of a refined, intelligent, experienced, polished gentleman.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (9mTYi)
381
The banning dilldos thing sadly will become a real attack line that Cruz will have to defend and have an answer ready when it comes up. If Drudge didn't put it out there, the MFM would eventually.
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (2x3L+)
No, not really. Cruz will repeat what he's said before when pressed on these issues. "I was Solicitor General of the State of Texas. I don't make moral judgements on the cases I make but defend the interests and rights of the State of Texas with regards to the federal government.".
You don't run a successful campaign based on fear. Look at Trump. The bastard shoves his foot in his mouth almost daily and gets away with it by not apologizing. Cruz likewise has never apologized for his work for the State of Texas.
Posted by: Arson Wells
I understand the point, but it will be a MUCH bigger thing than "binder full of women"
And Cruz does have a choice what laws he defends, there's all sorts of antiquated laws on the books like adultery, fornication, oral sex, sodomy, etc
Posted by: L, Elle at April 13, 2016 12:42 PM (2x3L+)
No, not really. Cruz will repeat what he's said before when pressed on these issues. "I was Solicitor General of the State of Texas. I don't make moral judgements on the cases I make but defend the interests and rights of the State of Texas with regards to the federal government.".
You don't run a successful campaign based on fear. Look at Trump. The bastard shoves his foot in his mouth almost daily and gets away with it by not apologizing. Cruz likewise has never apologized for his work for the State of Texas.
Posted by: Arson Wells
I understand the point, but it will be a MUCH bigger thing than "binder full of women"
And Cruz does have a choice what laws he defends, there's all sorts of antiquated laws on the books like adultery, fornication, oral sex, sodomy, etc
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (A2FEp)
382
Anybody watch Billy Bathgate? Is it any good?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:57 PM (iQIUe)
I saw it a while ago. I watched the whole movie and can't remember much about it so I know that I didn't think it was terrible. Can't say how good it is, though. Probably worth watching.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:57 PM (iQIUe)
I saw it a while ago. I watched the whole movie and can't remember much about it so I know that I didn't think it was terrible. Can't say how good it is, though. Probably worth watching.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (zc3Db)
383
#360, #361 So Trump's a stone bullshit artist about by is own finances. Henry, let's hire him to fix the economy!
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (Kucy5)
384
Nood
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (nbrY/)
385
379 Chelsea has gone on the payroll of a hedge fund with a no-show job.
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Aw, that's just to tide her over for a few weeks 'til her Pediatric Cardiology certificate arrives in the mail.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:58 PM (NeFrd)
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She's also a paid board member on a few corporations. Must be nice...
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Aw, that's just to tide her over for a few weeks 'til her Pediatric Cardiology certificate arrives in the mail.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:58 PM (NeFrd)
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She's also a paid board member on a few corporations. Must be nice...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (iQIUe)
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My opinion is that the best outcome would be the defeat of Hillary.
'Best', here, means the least damaging to the Republic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM (9mTYi)
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A diversion, but I think the Sweet Comey of Death will be the defeat of Hillary. We'll be yelling Comey for Prez by 2024 if not sooner.
My opinion is that the best outcome would be the defeat of Hillary.
'Best', here, means the least damaging to the Republic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM (9mTYi)
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A diversion, but I think the Sweet Comey of Death will be the defeat of Hillary. We'll be yelling Comey for Prez by 2024 if not sooner.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 01:00 PM (pC96u)
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I find it remarkable, that by contrast with Teh Donald, Richard Nixon was the very picture of a refined, intelligent, experienced, polished gentleman.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Pretty simple, you let the profanity and insults fly when you're not on stage and behind closed doors.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Pretty simple, you let the profanity and insults fly when you're not on stage and behind closed doors.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 01:00 PM (A2FEp)
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Probably. The question is, does that win? I don't mean to be pointlessly argumentative. I just feel one can't be cynical enough.
" allowing Hillary to just laugh off the rantings of someone who doesn't actually know what he's talking about."
That could go very badly for Hillary.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:56 PM (pC96u)
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I totally get your point and it's very valid.
I just feel like very specific criticisms will be harder to dodge by both Hillary and her media allies than wild barrages, most of which may not even have much of a connection to reality.
It would become "Well, he said X which we know is completely false, so Y must also be completely false."
" allowing Hillary to just laugh off the rantings of someone who doesn't actually know what he's talking about."
That could go very badly for Hillary.
Posted by: iforgot at April 13, 2016 12:56 PM (pC96u)
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I totally get your point and it's very valid.
I just feel like very specific criticisms will be harder to dodge by both Hillary and her media allies than wild barrages, most of which may not even have much of a connection to reality.
It would become "Well, he said X which we know is completely false, so Y must also be completely false."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 01:00 PM (FdQL3)
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I saw it a while ago. I watched the whole movie and can't remember much about it so I know that I didn't think it was terrible. Can't say how good it is, though. Probably worth watching.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (zc3Db)
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Thanks. Since no one ever mentions it, dont think it will be great.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (zc3Db)
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Thanks. Since no one ever mentions it, dont think it will be great.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 01:01 PM (iQIUe)
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I think Trump just really, really likes attention and media. I don't think he really wants the job, but since he's also a "winner" he cannot be a "loser" and thus needs a scapegoat.
Thus, Cruz "stealing" his win.
Trump dismantled his Ohio and Florida offices.
Who does that going into the general?
I also now highly suspect the Clintons know Trump enough to know how to flatter him to get him to run.
They knew he'd be a turd in the punchbowl.
Genius.
The left has horrible politics, but great politicians.
Thus, Cruz "stealing" his win.
Trump dismantled his Ohio and Florida offices.
Who does that going into the general?
I also now highly suspect the Clintons know Trump enough to know how to flatter him to get him to run.
They knew he'd be a turd in the punchbowl.
Genius.
The left has horrible politics, but great politicians.
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 01:01 PM (UBBWX)
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I didn't know about the dildo thing with Cruz, that's one of those dumb issues though that can sink him easily.
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Cruz went on vacation with a dildo strapped to the top of his car!
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Cruz went on vacation with a dildo strapped to the top of his car!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 01:02 PM (Nwg0u)
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How?
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM
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We desperately need someone who will at least attempt to bring us closer to our founding principles as a constitutional republic. I do not believe Trump has any idea what those principles are. He has shown no working knowledge of states' rights or federalism. His soundbites are directed at interest groups, not principles; they lack cogent content and are mere bluster.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 12:54 PM
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We desperately need someone who will at least attempt to bring us closer to our founding principles as a constitutional republic. I do not believe Trump has any idea what those principles are. He has shown no working knowledge of states' rights or federalism. His soundbites are directed at interest groups, not principles; they lack cogent content and are mere bluster.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 01:02 PM (E6RIJ)
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Sorry, I should not have called Mr. Trump a turd in the punchbowl. And he should not have retweeted Heidi's photo. I apologize for both of us.
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 01:02 PM (UBBWX)
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Sometimes the path to victory is not losing your head while everyone else is.
Posted by: Anna Puma
If you can keep your head while all those around you are losing theirs ... Then you obviously know understand the situation. Old Navy Axiom.
Posted by: Anna Puma
If you can keep your head while all those around you are losing theirs ... Then you obviously know understand the situation. Old Navy Axiom.
Posted by: Paladin (Moderately Nefarious) at April 13, 2016 01:03 PM (WujO7)
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Cruz should just explain the rule of law - laws on the books to be followed, not ignored, like laws about private emails, for example.
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 01:04 PM (UBBWX)
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And Cruz does have a choice what laws he defends, there's all sorts of antiquated laws on the books like adultery, fornication, oral sex, sodomy, etc
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (A2FEp)
Solicitor General of Texas doesn't pick and choose what cases to defend. I'm not going to go in circles with you on silly shit like Cruz could have quit as Solicitor General. Whomever the Nominee is they will be attacked. The point I was making is that Cruz is plenty capable of defending himself.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:59 PM (A2FEp)
Solicitor General of Texas doesn't pick and choose what cases to defend. I'm not going to go in circles with you on silly shit like Cruz could have quit as Solicitor General. Whomever the Nominee is they will be attacked. The point I was making is that Cruz is plenty capable of defending himself.
Posted by: Arson Wells at April 13, 2016 01:05 PM (/E+t2)
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I read drudge and Ace. Politically I lean libertarian. I think that we are screwed badly due to how contentious this has gotten. Regardless of who the nominee is, our choices (all of them) have so much crap attached to them that a criminal witch will be the next president. The media will have a field day and many who were so enthusiastic about "their" candidate with stay home due to the demoralization of the Republican nominee. This depressing thought led me to wonder if I needed to be more open minded in terms of a candidate. Then I thought of a question that I think might help negate the nastiness of my guy vs. yours, which is: "What is the one thing you absolutely want the next president to work on/address/fix? My answer to that question was that I want the rule of law. I want politicians, bankers, regulators etc. who have broken the law to be charged, tried, and hopefully convicted for their crimes. Every single one regardless of party/political affiliation. I don't think we can address the economy or immigration until we have rule of law back in force. What do you want?
Posted by: lightning at April 13, 2016 01:05 PM (AP+SF)
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This has probably already been said multiple times on this upthread but delegate loyalty doesnt just matter in the first ballot , it matters in rule contests and adoption of the platform , both of which occur before the nomination. It matters on a VP nomination too. Given Cruz's organization and Trump's lack of it, cruz will have good communications with his delegates .
If Trump thinks he is going to lose he will bail out and whine.
If Trump thinks he is going to lose he will bail out and whine.
Posted by: Jim in virginia at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM (yR51r)
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The religious stuff also does bother him, he's a secular leaning guy
and I will say Cruz attempting to woo Evangelicals was over the top,
and I attend an Evangelical Church.
I have another family member as well that wrote him off because he felt like it was a "700 Club" type Republican.
All of them will likely vote Cruz though in the General if he's the nominee.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (A2FEp)
I have said this here many times but it is worth saying again. It is Christianity and Judeo-Christian that allowed the development of a whole hols of social goods including our system of government as it was founded. It is sad we have come to the place that Christianity has been so demonized and driven out of the public square that gay pride parades, and all the concomitant near or complete nudity and perversion is OK but public prayer is not. This needs to stop.
nature abhors a vacuum and the vacuum in the public square is being filled with forces for destruction and control. Liberal fascism and Islam are filling the void left from Christianity being marginalized so, whether you believe in God or not, you should be down on your knees praying for a resurgence of that Old Time Religion. Without is, you have no rights but only the beggar's portion that the state allows you.
The religious stuff also does bother him, he's a secular leaning guy
and I will say Cruz attempting to woo Evangelicals was over the top,
and I attend an Evangelical Church.
I have another family member as well that wrote him off because he felt like it was a "700 Club" type Republican.
All of them will likely vote Cruz though in the General if he's the nominee.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 12:38 PM (A2FEp)
I have said this here many times but it is worth saying again. It is Christianity and Judeo-Christian that allowed the development of a whole hols of social goods including our system of government as it was founded. It is sad we have come to the place that Christianity has been so demonized and driven out of the public square that gay pride parades, and all the concomitant near or complete nudity and perversion is OK but public prayer is not. This needs to stop.
nature abhors a vacuum and the vacuum in the public square is being filled with forces for destruction and control. Liberal fascism and Islam are filling the void left from Christianity being marginalized so, whether you believe in God or not, you should be down on your knees praying for a resurgence of that Old Time Religion. Without is, you have no rights but only the beggar's portion that the state allows you.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM (3JA/M)
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We desperately need someone who will at least attempt to bring us closer to our founding principles as a constitutional republic. I do not believe Trump has any idea what those principles are. He has shown no working knowledge of states' rights or federalism. His soundbites are directed at interest groups, not principles; they lack cogent content and are mere bluster.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 01:02 PM (E6RIJ)
That's how Trump destroys the country as POTUS?
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 01:02 PM (E6RIJ)
That's how Trump destroys the country as POTUS?
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM (nbrY/)
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Let me be clear. And finish my waffle.
But if Ted Cruz is the nominee I will be ecstatic. And I expect he will give a real principled conservative concession speech.
But if Ted Cruz is the nominee I will be ecstatic. And I expect he will give a real principled conservative concession speech.
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM (2Ocf1)
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Aw, that's just to tide her over for a few weeks 'til her Pediatric Cardiology certificate arrives in the mail.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:58 PM
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Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 13, 2016 12:58 PM
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Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM (E6RIJ)
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>>And Cruz does have a choice what laws he defends, there's all sorts of antiquated laws on the books like adultery, fornication, oral sex, sodomy, etc
Not really. A store decided to challenge the law in court so the state in the person of the solicitor general had to respond.
He could easily say I don't personally agree with the law but my job was to defend the laws of the state of Texas. I did my job. If people want the law changed that is the job of the legislature.
Might even teach some people some badly needed civics lessons.
Not really. A store decided to challenge the law in court so the state in the person of the solicitor general had to respond.
He could easily say I don't personally agree with the law but my job was to defend the laws of the state of Texas. I did my job. If people want the law changed that is the job of the legislature.
Might even teach some people some badly needed civics lessons.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM (/tuJf)
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I still want to know why Trump wants to be president. Making America Great Again is a slogan, not a reason. Reducing the national debt, returning to the principles of the Constitution, restoring balance between the branches of government, renewing ties with our allies are reasons for wanting the reins of power. Build a wall(but maybe not everywhere), deport all illegal immigrants(but let the good ones back in), be neutral between Israel and the Palestinian Authority(or maybe not), take ME oil(or maybe destroy the oil fields), kill the families of terrorists or tear down their houses or waterboard them, hire all the best people(like Corey Lewandowski), pick Conservative judges(like his liberal sister). You can tell Trump has really thought this thing through.
Posted by: sharon at April 13, 2016 01:07 PM (QzF6i)
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Solicitor General of Texas doesn't pick and choose what cases to defend. I'm not going to go in circles with you on silly shit like Cruz could have quit as Solicitor General. Whomever the Nominee is they will be attacked. The point I was making is that Cruz is plenty capable of defending himself.
Posted by: Arson Wells
So somebody forces him at gunpoint to write a memo stating there was a "government" interest, in "discouraging autonomous sex.
"discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification"
He lost the case by the way.
Posted by: Arson Wells
So somebody forces him at gunpoint to write a memo stating there was a "government" interest, in "discouraging autonomous sex.
"discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification"
He lost the case by the way.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 01:10 PM (A2FEp)
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The saddest part if Cruz's Cosa Nostrea statement is, itr's true. The NY mob is still firmly integrated in NYC politics, business and labor.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 13, 2016 01:11 PM (Kucy5)
407
"What do you want?"
No new laws. Enforce the ones we have. Start job of turning country around. Vote Trump.
No new laws. Enforce the ones we have. Start job of turning country around. Vote Trump.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 01:12 PM (TRksN)
408
You Cruz fans are so annoying.
Its not like the Republicans need a fantastic ground game to win in the general election.
We just need a guy on twitter at 2:00 am retweeting stuff.
Its not like the Republicans need a fantastic ground game to win in the general election.
We just need a guy on twitter at 2:00 am retweeting stuff.
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 01:12 PM (UBBWX)
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Quick question:
Is Cruz the snake handling true believer or an instrument of the GOPe who will do what the political bosses on Wall Street want?
Not sure both can be true...
Is Cruz the snake handling true believer or an instrument of the GOPe who will do what the political bosses on Wall Street want?
Not sure both can be true...
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (HeZ0H)
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That's how Trump destroys the country as POTUS?
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM
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Yeah. Trump or Hillary. I see the country at the edge of a cliff, and we desperately need someone to pull us back and turn us around. Trump (nor Hillary) will not do that, ergo the country as founded will be lost.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 01:06 PM
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Yeah. Trump or Hillary. I see the country at the edge of a cliff, and we desperately need someone to pull us back and turn us around. Trump (nor Hillary) will not do that, ergo the country as founded will be lost.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (E6RIJ)
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Ace sounds more like Beck everyday .
Posted by: Edward Cropper at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (FfyGI)
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>>>347
...The GOPe doesn't nominate true conservatives...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (FdQL3)
Exactly, we are in perfect agreement: If at a brokered convention the GOPe nominates Cruz, then Cruz is definitely not a true conservative; isn't that true?
Trump will pull it off, but if he fails then either Cruz will bend the knee to the GOPe (assuming he hasn't already) or if not, they will roll the dice with a Romney, Ryan, or some other amnesty shill.
Thankfully, #TheTrumpening is still upon us.
Disclaimer - I'm w/ Trump but if he is unable to accept the nomination and it goes to Cruz *shudder*, I'll hold my nose and vote for the creeper. No one else b/c its #TheBurningTimes & the best man for that is Donald Trump b/c his hair is flame retardant.
...The GOPe doesn't nominate true conservatives...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 12:47 PM (FdQL3)
Exactly, we are in perfect agreement: If at a brokered convention the GOPe nominates Cruz, then Cruz is definitely not a true conservative; isn't that true?
Trump will pull it off, but if he fails then either Cruz will bend the knee to the GOPe (assuming he hasn't already) or if not, they will roll the dice with a Romney, Ryan, or some other amnesty shill.
Thankfully, #TheTrumpening is still upon us.
Disclaimer - I'm w/ Trump but if he is unable to accept the nomination and it goes to Cruz *shudder*, I'll hold my nose and vote for the creeper. No one else b/c its #TheBurningTimes & the best man for that is Donald Trump b/c his hair is flame retardant.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 13, 2016 01:15 PM (10hEu)
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Forgot to take my sock off
Posted by: TeamRawDog at April 13, 2016 01:16 PM (10hEu)
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So, now it is people who disagree with you are brainwashed, blind, and agenda driven? Stop digging.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (iQIUe)
No. You're either misunderstanding again, or spinning, or something else.I never stated that my position was "people who disagree with me are brainwashed, etc".I stated that I thought Trump supporters were either brainwashed, in the same vein as the Obamatrons were in '08 and '12 and continue to this day, willfully blind, or agenda driven.Do you understand the difference?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:04 PM (iQIUe)
No. You're either misunderstanding again, or spinning, or something else.I never stated that my position was "people who disagree with me are brainwashed, etc".I stated that I thought Trump supporters were either brainwashed, in the same vein as the Obamatrons were in '08 and '12 and continue to this day, willfully blind, or agenda driven.Do you understand the difference?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:16 PM (aRUb8)
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411
Ace sounds more like Beck everyday .
Posted by: Edward Cropper at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (FfyGI)
How so?
Ace sounds more like Beck everyday .
Posted by: Edward Cropper at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (FfyGI)
How so?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:17 PM (aRUb8)
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Does anyone here deny that Cruz is currently aligned with Romney and Jeb! Neil Bush joined Cruz's finance team. Romney Super-Pacs -- including Our Priorities -- have been running attack ads on Trump for months and are deeply involved in the delegate wrangling. Cruz started out in the Bush Inner Circle before he got mavericky and jumped his turn, but it looks like he's back in the fold.
So either Cruz is quietly back in the GOPe, or the GOPe is using him, or both. But let's not pretend that he's a Change Agent.
So either Cruz is quietly back in the GOPe, or the GOPe is using him, or both. But let's not pretend that he's a Change Agent.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:18 PM (bQxkN)
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409
Quick question:
Is Cruz the snake handling true believer or an instrument of the GOPe who will do what the political bosses on Wall Street want?
Not sure both can be true...
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (HeZ0H)
False Dichotomy Fallacy.
Quick question:
Is Cruz the snake handling true believer or an instrument of the GOPe who will do what the political bosses on Wall Street want?
Not sure both can be true...
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (HeZ0H)
False Dichotomy Fallacy.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:18 PM (aRUb8)
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I agree Trump "has shown no working knowledge of states' rights or federalism". Convention of States will need to be next focus while Trump is stopping-up gaping national wounds while in Office. I don't expect any help from him on this issue. It's in our (states) hands.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 01:20 PM (TRksN)
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So either Cruz is quietly back in the GOPe, or the GOPe is using him, or both. But let's not pretend that he's a Change Agent.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:18 PM (bQxkN)
What are you basing that claim on?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:18 PM (bQxkN)
What are you basing that claim on?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:21 PM (aRUb8)
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407 No new laws. Enforce the ones we have. Start job of turning country around. Vote Trump.
Jacke
I agree with enforcing the laws we have. I asked my question because I think we all get wrapped up in issues that truthfully are not (or cannot) be solved by ANY candidate for president. Maybe if we can agree on a few firm points, we can avoid the Hildabeast.
Jacke
I agree with enforcing the laws we have. I asked my question because I think we all get wrapped up in issues that truthfully are not (or cannot) be solved by ANY candidate for president. Maybe if we can agree on a few firm points, we can avoid the Hildabeast.
Posted by: lightning at April 13, 2016 01:21 PM (AP+SF)
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Trump or Hillary. I see the country at the edge of a cliff, and we desperately need someone to pull us back and turn us around. Trump (nor Hillary) will not do that, ergo the country as founded will be lost.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (E6RIJ)
Hillary (and Bernie) already have proposed laws - massive tax increases, free this, free that, that will all actively destroy the country.
Cruz or Trump, either they maintain the status quo (very likely btw with Cruz the more establishment debt he accrues in this campaign) or they are able to push back.with even just one thing.
Trump has to build his Wall, that's his signature. He'll try to renegotiate China trade because he's always railed against China, way before this race.
Cruz doesn't really care about immigration, maybe he will be able to cut down the IRS. He'll be great for the 2ndA and for picking a SCOTUS judge. He doesn't really get economics, he just follows the standard Chamber of Commerce stuff on it.
That's how I see what happens of any of these 4 win.
(PS based on reading both Cruz & Trump' s books
Did not read any stuff by Hillary or Bernie)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 01:13 PM (E6RIJ)
Hillary (and Bernie) already have proposed laws - massive tax increases, free this, free that, that will all actively destroy the country.
Cruz or Trump, either they maintain the status quo (very likely btw with Cruz the more establishment debt he accrues in this campaign) or they are able to push back.with even just one thing.
Trump has to build his Wall, that's his signature. He'll try to renegotiate China trade because he's always railed against China, way before this race.
Cruz doesn't really care about immigration, maybe he will be able to cut down the IRS. He'll be great for the 2ndA and for picking a SCOTUS judge. He doesn't really get economics, he just follows the standard Chamber of Commerce stuff on it.
That's how I see what happens of any of these 4 win.
(PS based on reading both Cruz & Trump' s books
Did not read any stuff by Hillary or Bernie)
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 01:21 PM (nbrY/)
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"Does anyone here deny that Cruz is currently aligned with Romney and Jeb! Neil Bush joined Cruz's finance team."
They aligned with him, not the other way around.
Also, do you deny Donald is aligned with Christie and Dole, and whoever else?
Christie just appointed a Democrat. Guess that makes Trump a Democrat-sympathizer.
They aligned with him, not the other way around.
Also, do you deny Donald is aligned with Christie and Dole, and whoever else?
Christie just appointed a Democrat. Guess that makes Trump a Democrat-sympathizer.
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 01:22 PM (UBBWX)
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Trump wants new laws for libel.
He will make deals with Pelosi and Schumer.
"you have to be a little establishment" is what he said back when he thought he could get them on his side.
Now of course, his supporters forget that.
He will make deals with Pelosi and Schumer.
"you have to be a little establishment" is what he said back when he thought he could get them on his side.
Now of course, his supporters forget that.
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 01:23 PM (UBBWX)
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412 Posted by: Michelle Fields at April 13, 2016 01:15 PM (10hEu)
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In a vacuum, I could see how that your argument would hold water, but with the failed campaigns of Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio behind us I see the GOPe settling with Cruz because he doesn't offend the GOPe as much as Trump does.
My theory on the GOPe's antagonism towards Trump is twofold: 1) They don't like his personality. He gauche, and rough. He has no real refinement. And 2) They do want to win. Their theory on how to win doesn't jive with ours, but one thing that they can do is read polls and they see Donald Trump losing in epic fashion to Hillary.
Plus, on top of all of this, in order to believe that the GOPe will steal the nomination from either Trump or Cruz, you have to believe that they will convince a majority of Trump and Cruz delegates to turn from them.
That seems extremely doubtful considering Cruz's organizing prowess, both Trump and Cruz's relative popularities within the party, and the GOPe generally ineffective nature. They gave Jeb Bush $100 million and couldn't get him better than, what, 5th place? I don't think these people are going to convince delegates to turn to Marco Rubio now if they couldn't convince the people to go with either him or Jeb Bush back then.
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In a vacuum, I could see how that your argument would hold water, but with the failed campaigns of Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio behind us I see the GOPe settling with Cruz because he doesn't offend the GOPe as much as Trump does.
My theory on the GOPe's antagonism towards Trump is twofold: 1) They don't like his personality. He gauche, and rough. He has no real refinement. And 2) They do want to win. Their theory on how to win doesn't jive with ours, but one thing that they can do is read polls and they see Donald Trump losing in epic fashion to Hillary.
Plus, on top of all of this, in order to believe that the GOPe will steal the nomination from either Trump or Cruz, you have to believe that they will convince a majority of Trump and Cruz delegates to turn from them.
That seems extremely doubtful considering Cruz's organizing prowess, both Trump and Cruz's relative popularities within the party, and the GOPe generally ineffective nature. They gave Jeb Bush $100 million and couldn't get him better than, what, 5th place? I don't think these people are going to convince delegates to turn to Marco Rubio now if they couldn't convince the people to go with either him or Jeb Bush back then.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 01:23 PM (FdQL3)
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But then, of course, blacks have good reason to feel resentment at the nation -- but that doesn't mean they haven't gone off the deep end with their privilege patrols and #SafeSpaces and claims that noting Obama plays golf is a racist put-down.
-----no they don't actually. And you're quite the silly for saying so. Their problems are attributable solely and fully to their own selves.
Whitey or "the nation" isn't making them engage in the kind of counterproductive behaviors the love that gets them into troubles
-----no they don't actually. And you're quite the silly for saying so. Their problems are attributable solely and fully to their own selves.
Whitey or "the nation" isn't making them engage in the kind of counterproductive behaviors the love that gets them into troubles
Posted by: Tradd at April 13, 2016 01:24 PM (GSJcT)
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Solicitor General of Texas doesn't pick and choose
what cases to defend. I'm not going to go in circles with you on silly
shit like Cruz could have quit as Solicitor General. Whomever the
Nominee is they will be attacked. The point I was making is that Cruz is
plenty capable of defending himself.
Posted by: Arson Wells
So somebody forces him at gunpoint to write a memo stating there was a "government" interest, in "discouraging autonomous sex.
"discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification"
He lost the case by the way.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 01:10 PM (A2FEp)
His job was to defend Texas law.
what cases to defend. I'm not going to go in circles with you on silly
shit like Cruz could have quit as Solicitor General. Whomever the
Nominee is they will be attacked. The point I was making is that Cruz is
plenty capable of defending himself.
Posted by: Arson Wells
So somebody forces him at gunpoint to write a memo stating there was a "government" interest, in "discouraging autonomous sex.
"discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification"
He lost the case by the way.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 01:10 PM (A2FEp)
His job was to defend Texas law.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 01:24 PM (3JA/M)
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 01:24 PM (HeZ0H)
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Silly Ace. Intelligence, organization, attention to detail, and rudimentary literacy are for GOPes, Globalists, and Cucks, and have no place on Team Trump.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 13, 2016 01:25 PM (cRsZi)
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No new laws. Enforce the ones we have.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 01:12 PM (TRksN)
That eliminates Trump. As POTUS he, or anyone else cannot froce China to "play fair"..or make Mexico pay for a wall or actually write laws that would confiscate assets of aliens. In order to confiscate those assets there would have to be new laws regarding money transfer operations like PayPal, Western Union, on line asset transfers etc, etc.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 01:12 PM (TRksN)
That eliminates Trump. As POTUS he, or anyone else cannot froce China to "play fair"..or make Mexico pay for a wall or actually write laws that would confiscate assets of aliens. In order to confiscate those assets there would have to be new laws regarding money transfer operations like PayPal, Western Union, on line asset transfers etc, etc.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:25 PM (aRUb8)
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So either Cruz is quietly back in the GOPe, or the GOPe is using him, or both. But let's not pretend that he's a Change Agent.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:18 PM (bQxkN)
What are you basing that claim on?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:21 PM (aRUb
Their feelz.
So either Cruz is quietly back in the GOPe, or the GOPe is using him, or both. But let's not pretend that he's a Change Agent.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:18 PM (bQxkN)
What are you basing that claim on?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:21 PM (aRUb
Their feelz.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 13, 2016 01:25 PM (3JA/M)
431
Billy Bathgate is an excellent movie. I watch it every couple of years--seriously, its that good.
Posted by: Crusader at April 13, 2016 01:28 PM (ewSN2)
432
You know what? We need to just stop. Regardless of the candidate you support (Trump, Cruz, or Kasich or other) we need to be more like the democrats. Think about their candidates for a couple of minutes. Really think about them. Are they really any less embarrassing than ours and/or have fewer freaky crap in their background?
Posted by: lightning at April 13, 2016 01:29 PM (AP+SF)
433
Trump won't get anything passed.
That's a good thing.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 01:30 PM (CMthJ)
434
433 Trump won't get anything passed.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 01:30 PM (CMthJ)
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He's going to make deals with liberal Republicans and Democrats.
He'll get plenty passed. Just stuff we won't like.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 01:30 PM (CMthJ)
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He's going to make deals with liberal Republicans and Democrats.
He'll get plenty passed. Just stuff we won't like.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 01:32 PM (FdQL3)
435
Posted by: lightning at April 13, 2016 01:29 PM (AP+SF)
Nonsense. If we do that we might actually win in November.
Nonsense. If we do that we might actually win in November.
Posted by: @votermom at April 13, 2016 01:33 PM (nbrY/)
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"2) They do want to win."
They don't want to lose badly. Keep the Senate, if possible. Disaster is losing the Senate AND the House. No juice ... no influence ... no money pig trough.
Trump has a shot, Cruz none.
The Old GOP positions -- Chamber of Commerce Big Business Free Trade Open Borders / NeoCon foreign interventionism / SoCon positions don't answer and don't sell. No one knows what Constitutionalism means.
Add that Cruz is a creepy elitist and he's an Electoral disaster waiting to happen.
But the GOPe is blind to this because he's more clubbable than Trump. No good country club wants Trump. Which is why he has to build his own.
They don't want to lose badly. Keep the Senate, if possible. Disaster is losing the Senate AND the House. No juice ... no influence ... no money pig trough.
Trump has a shot, Cruz none.
The Old GOP positions -- Chamber of Commerce Big Business Free Trade Open Borders / NeoCon foreign interventionism / SoCon positions don't answer and don't sell. No one knows what Constitutionalism means.
Add that Cruz is a creepy elitist and he's an Electoral disaster waiting to happen.
But the GOPe is blind to this because he's more clubbable than Trump. No good country club wants Trump. Which is why he has to build his own.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:34 PM (bQxkN)
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Saw a thing today that Glenn Beck called Cruz Moses or Moses like at some gathering.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (4ErVI)
Bullshit.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (4ErVI)
Bullshit.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:38 PM (aRUb8)
438
436
Trump has a shot, Cruz none.
The Old GOP positions -- Chamber of Commerce Big Business Free Trade Open Borders / NeoCon foreign interventionism / SoCon positions don't answer and don't sell. No one knows what Constitutionalism means.
Add that Cruz is a creepy elitist and he's an Electoral disaster waiting to happen.
But the GOPe is blind to this because he's more clubbable than Trump. No good country club wants Trump. Which is why he has to build his own.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:34 PM (bQxkN)
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What evidence do you have that says that Trump is more electable than Cruz?
Is he more liked by the Republican Party, guaranteeing a greater turnout from the party itself?
Is there a coalition of voters (like, say, married women) that the GOP generally wins that he's doing at least as well as Romney in? Would his (largely unsubstantiated) increased support from blacks make up for his loss of support from such groups?
Does he do better with independents?
How many general election polls is he running ahead of Cruz in? What about state polls? Can we ensure that Trump won't need to ensure that we spend money in usually safe states like Utah and Mississippi?
I'm open to your evidence. Please share it.
Trump has a shot, Cruz none.
The Old GOP positions -- Chamber of Commerce Big Business Free Trade Open Borders / NeoCon foreign interventionism / SoCon positions don't answer and don't sell. No one knows what Constitutionalism means.
Add that Cruz is a creepy elitist and he's an Electoral disaster waiting to happen.
But the GOPe is blind to this because he's more clubbable than Trump. No good country club wants Trump. Which is why he has to build his own.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 01:34 PM (bQxkN)
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What evidence do you have that says that Trump is more electable than Cruz?
Is he more liked by the Republican Party, guaranteeing a greater turnout from the party itself?
Is there a coalition of voters (like, say, married women) that the GOP generally wins that he's doing at least as well as Romney in? Would his (largely unsubstantiated) increased support from blacks make up for his loss of support from such groups?
Does he do better with independents?
How many general election polls is he running ahead of Cruz in? What about state polls? Can we ensure that Trump won't need to ensure that we spend money in usually safe states like Utah and Mississippi?
I'm open to your evidence. Please share it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 13, 2016 01:38 PM (FdQL3)
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Yeah, I'll expect he'll bring all those Trump supporters, from demographics the GOP hasn't seen in about three elections, and who they need to win electorally, are gonna come running home to mommy after being insulted, belittled and called names for the last six months.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (O0lVq)
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You do know that Trumpkins arent exactly known for politeness and excellent manners either, yes?
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (O0lVq)
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You do know that Trumpkins arent exactly known for politeness and excellent manners either, yes?
Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth at April 13, 2016 01:39 PM (Kc6y0)
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>I truly do not understand how people can choose this con man Trump over a principled conservative.
>As has been said ad nauseam - anger.
>Trump supporters are just like Trump.
Guess it's a flaw in a person's character if they simply like him.
Does no one have family/friends that are gypsies, tramps or thieves, and yet, they still like them?
Yes, "those" people are not running for President, but, can't it be as simple as Trump supporters just plain and simple like him, regardless of what never Trump people think of him?
Liking Trump doesn't make a person "just like Trump".
Any more than listening to and enjoying music sung by a liberal leaning singer makes a person just like the singer.
>As has been said ad nauseam - anger.
>Trump supporters are just like Trump.
Guess it's a flaw in a person's character if they simply like him.
Does no one have family/friends that are gypsies, tramps or thieves, and yet, they still like them?
Yes, "those" people are not running for President, but, can't it be as simple as Trump supporters just plain and simple like him, regardless of what never Trump people think of him?
Liking Trump doesn't make a person "just like Trump".
Any more than listening to and enjoying music sung by a liberal leaning singer makes a person just like the singer.
Posted by: cind at April 13, 2016 01:40 PM (nRbbW)
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Trump has a shot, Cruz none.
Logic and evidince is for GOPes, Globalists, and Cucks. Trump will Make America Great Again by magicthinking with his Good Brain and wishcasting with his Best Words and waving his Nice Hands.
Logic and evidince is for GOPes, Globalists, and Cucks. Trump will Make America Great Again by magicthinking with his Good Brain and wishcasting with his Best Words and waving his Nice Hands.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 13, 2016 01:42 PM (cRsZi)
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The one you commented several times in so I dont know where you get that "havent been on line much"
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (iQIUe)
You misunderstand the concept of "haven't been ____ much" with haven't been AT ALL.I did comment a couple of times without reading a couple hundred posts ahead of, or after my posts.Do you understand the difference?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (iQIUe)
You misunderstand the concept of "haven't been ____ much" with haven't been AT ALL.I did comment a couple of times without reading a couple hundred posts ahead of, or after my posts.Do you understand the difference?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:46 PM (aRUb8)
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Yeah, I'll expect he'll bring all those Trump supporters, from demographics the GOP hasn't seen in about three elections, and who they need to win electorally, are gonna come running home to mommy after being insulted, belittled and called names for the last six months.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (O0lVq)
Decency and civility is for GOPes, Globalists, and Cucks.
Posted by: Marcus T, Outraged at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (O0lVq)
Decency and civility is for GOPes, Globalists, and Cucks.
Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 13, 2016 01:46 PM (cRsZi)
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You have a very pleasant day Mimzey.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (WVsWD)
You too Tim!
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Let's play two! at April 13, 2016 12:07 PM (WVsWD)
You too Tim!
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:47 PM (aRUb8)
445
"Megyn Kelly just entered the Trump tower incognito, met by member of his team who took her upstairs."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (Nwg0u)
The boss gets another one! I swear, money is an aphrodisiac!
Posted by: The Donald's Head Weasel at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (v9gSJ)
...orrrr, someone who happens to be staying in Trump Tower, is talking to her about a potential offer if she leaves Fox News after her contract is up.
Which seems more plausible?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 13, 2016 12:16 PM (Nwg0u)
The boss gets another one! I swear, money is an aphrodisiac!
Posted by: The Donald's Head Weasel at April 13, 2016 12:18 PM (v9gSJ)
...orrrr, someone who happens to be staying in Trump Tower, is talking to her about a potential offer if she leaves Fox News after her contract is up.
Which seems more plausible?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:53 PM (aRUb8)
446
437
Saw a thing today that Glenn Beck called Cruz Moses or Moses like at some gathering.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (4ErVI)
I saw a thing the other day where Trump wants to have sex with his daughter.
Saw a thing today that Glenn Beck called Cruz Moses or Moses like at some gathering.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 13, 2016 12:33 PM (4ErVI)
I saw a thing the other day where Trump wants to have sex with his daughter.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 01:55 PM (aRUb8)
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Neither.
Even St. Reagan didn't eliminate departments not authorized by the Constitution.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (4dbPD)
Non sequitur.But maybe I'm not understanding your point. Are you saying that Trump is as committed to the Constitution being the basis of other laws as Cruz is? Because that was the actual question I asked.
Even St. Reagan didn't eliminate departments not authorized by the Constitution.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 13, 2016 12:20 PM (4dbPD)
Non sequitur.But maybe I'm not understanding your point. Are you saying that Trump is as committed to the Constitution being the basis of other laws as Cruz is? Because that was the actual question I asked.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 02:00 PM (aRUb8)
448
Remember when we mocked the Left for saying Bush is an evil genius who conned us into two illegal wars and knew about 9-11
-AND-
Bush is a dumb cowboy who is too stupid to serve real Turkey and let Halliburton steal all Iraq's oil...
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Fast forward and Cruz is a Right wing zealot who is bought and paid for by the GOPe.
Weird
-AND-
Bush is a dumb cowboy who is too stupid to serve real Turkey and let Halliburton steal all Iraq's oil...
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Fast forward and Cruz is a Right wing zealot who is bought and paid for by the GOPe.
Weird
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 02:03 PM (HeZ0H)
449
"But that would permit one of the 15 candidates already eliminated to be nominated."--My Spidey sense is detecting the cold, dead hand of Jim Gilmore.
Hey, don't blame the guy who burnt his party card. He's just following Dear Leader Donald F. Troop's lead: "Be Unprepared!"
Hey, don't blame the guy who burnt his party card. He's just following Dear Leader Donald F. Troop's lead: "Be Unprepared!"
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 13, 2016 02:04 PM (fPebX)
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"I'm open to your evidence. Please share it."
Start with the 2012 electoral map. 538.com has a good interactive one.
Trump should be able to hold all the Romney states, which are nearly all Reliable Red. (Ace posted a MS poll which purports to show Trump weakness, which I looked at and thought suspect. Ace posts a lot of suspect anti-Trump things). Cruz should also be able to hold all the Romney states, but he hasn't had the buckets of pig blood rained on his head yet.
Trump can expand the electoral map by winning states like FL and OH. In the FL primary he killed Homie Rubio and won every district except for Miami. In states like OH he can win by getting 5% to 7% better non-college white turnout than Romney did. This would be lower turnout than what Obama got from Blacks in 2012.
Hillary is a weak candidate who's getting weaker. Trump should be really good at driving her negatives up. Which sets up a turnout battle -- a lot of Independents and many Dems who would never pull an R lever will stay home -- which is half-a-vote for Trump.
If Trump adds three to five states to Romney's map he wins. He can lose the popular vote by 5 million and it won't matter. He can lose MA and MD by 30% and only win UT by 10%, and it won't matter.
I can't see Cruz adding a single state that Romney lost. He won't be able to convince Joe the Plumber in Ohio that he's really, really for the little guy, and Manuela in Florida that's he's really, really Hispanic.
The pushback is that Trump's negatives are too high especially with women, and it's a real issue. But this adverse effect is concentrated in states that are already Deep Blue. Ace and others also point out head-to-head matchup polls in the general but these are always suspect so far out.
Cruz negatives, especially with women, are sure to go up and by a lot if he becomes the candidate.
I've put this analysis out here before and have never gotten a good rebuttal. But YMMV.
Start with the 2012 electoral map. 538.com has a good interactive one.
Trump should be able to hold all the Romney states, which are nearly all Reliable Red. (Ace posted a MS poll which purports to show Trump weakness, which I looked at and thought suspect. Ace posts a lot of suspect anti-Trump things). Cruz should also be able to hold all the Romney states, but he hasn't had the buckets of pig blood rained on his head yet.
Trump can expand the electoral map by winning states like FL and OH. In the FL primary he killed Homie Rubio and won every district except for Miami. In states like OH he can win by getting 5% to 7% better non-college white turnout than Romney did. This would be lower turnout than what Obama got from Blacks in 2012.
Hillary is a weak candidate who's getting weaker. Trump should be really good at driving her negatives up. Which sets up a turnout battle -- a lot of Independents and many Dems who would never pull an R lever will stay home -- which is half-a-vote for Trump.
If Trump adds three to five states to Romney's map he wins. He can lose the popular vote by 5 million and it won't matter. He can lose MA and MD by 30% and only win UT by 10%, and it won't matter.
I can't see Cruz adding a single state that Romney lost. He won't be able to convince Joe the Plumber in Ohio that he's really, really for the little guy, and Manuela in Florida that's he's really, really Hispanic.
The pushback is that Trump's negatives are too high especially with women, and it's a real issue. But this adverse effect is concentrated in states that are already Deep Blue. Ace and others also point out head-to-head matchup polls in the general but these are always suspect so far out.
Cruz negatives, especially with women, are sure to go up and by a lot if he becomes the candidate.
I've put this analysis out here before and have never gotten a good rebuttal. But YMMV.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:06 PM (bQxkN)
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Cruz negatives, especially with women, are sure to go up and by a lot if he becomes the candidate.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:06 PM (bQxkN)
Why would that be?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:06 PM (bQxkN)
Why would that be?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 02:09 PM (aRUb8)
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I'd swear Trump is playing a presidential version of "Brewster's Millions"* by throwing away his presidential bid in order to win something bigger. I just can't imagine that a presidential run adds so much to his "brand" that he makes millions more then he's spending in deals later on.
*Movie with Richard Pryor, & John Candy where Pryor's character inherits 30 million but has to spend it all in a set time and be penniless to inherit 300 million and can't tell anyone what he's actually doing.
*Movie with Richard Pryor, & John Candy where Pryor's character inherits 30 million but has to spend it all in a set time and be penniless to inherit 300 million and can't tell anyone what he's actually doing.
Posted by: Janir at April 13, 2016 02:09 PM (Lk5qN)
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Ted Cruz is fine with more immigration and with taking tons of money from Wall Street, where his wife works, after talking about how awful the bank bailout was. He is no less dishonest than Donald Trump or anyone else in this contest. If he's willing to sell out the country to the immigration lobby and the banks, he's not really a conservative, either.
Ted Cruz, like Marco Rubio, largely rode the Tea Party wave into the Senate, but unlike Marco Rubio, he is not likable enough for the Establishment to accept him.
In the general, the Democrat attack machine will rip him apart, and he won't be able to handle it. Trump is still standing despite the fact that our party has turned on its front runner with more firepower and hatred than it ever used against Obama. Ted says some nice things, but he isn't a viable candidate, and if he loses to Hillary, it will be the death knell of the conservative movement.
P.S. If he's so awesome, why can he not manage to outmaneuver Kasich in many states? Why does he hardly ever win primaries, only caucuses or states where people can't vote (Colorado)? Because he's just a used-car salesman.
Ted Cruz, like Marco Rubio, largely rode the Tea Party wave into the Senate, but unlike Marco Rubio, he is not likable enough for the Establishment to accept him.
In the general, the Democrat attack machine will rip him apart, and he won't be able to handle it. Trump is still standing despite the fact that our party has turned on its front runner with more firepower and hatred than it ever used against Obama. Ted says some nice things, but he isn't a viable candidate, and if he loses to Hillary, it will be the death knell of the conservative movement.
P.S. If he's so awesome, why can he not manage to outmaneuver Kasich in many states? Why does he hardly ever win primaries, only caucuses or states where people can't vote (Colorado)? Because he's just a used-car salesman.
Posted by: Penn School Teacher at April 13, 2016 02:13 PM (UukLc)
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 02:15 PM (UBBWX)
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Among other things, Cruz took the position that Roe v Wade can be overturned by a simple act of Congress declaring any fetus to be a "person." He took it off his website, but that's what Wayback is for.
This is a killer, politically.
This is a killer, politically.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:16 PM (bQxkN)
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"Yeah, I'll expect he'll bring all those Trump supporters, from demographics the GOP hasn't seen in about three elections, and who they need to win electorally, are gonna come running home to mommy after being insulted, belittled and called names for the last six months."
Who called people names first?
Hmmm, oh, right. Donald Trump.
Who still call's Ted Lyin' Ted.
Well, that's sure to get Cruz supporters on your side.
Who called people names first?
Hmmm, oh, right. Donald Trump.
Who still call's Ted Lyin' Ted.
Well, that's sure to get Cruz supporters on your side.
Posted by: Harun at April 13, 2016 02:17 PM (UBBWX)
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Cruz with single women or Cruz with married women?
Because women of both types are very negative toward Trump.
Because women of both types are very negative toward Trump.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 02:17 PM (HeZ0H)
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declaring any fetus to be a "person."
This is a killer, politically.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:16 PM (bQxkN)
Doesn't seem to bother Hillary supporters.
This is a killer, politically.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:16 PM (bQxkN)
Doesn't seem to bother Hillary supporters.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 02:19 PM (aRUb8)
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Hillary thinks a crowning baby can be aborted.
Killer politically?
80% of people are against third trimester abortion
Killer politically?
80% of people are against third trimester abortion
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 02:21 PM (HeZ0H)
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>>>Ted Cruz is fine with more immigration and with taking tons of money
from Wall Street, where his wife works, after talking about how awful
the bank bailout was.
~~~~~
If this is true, why did he have to take out a loan and borrow against his own assets? Why didn't his wife's company just "donate" the money for his Texas campaign.
from Wall Street, where his wife works, after talking about how awful
the bank bailout was.
~~~~~
If this is true, why did he have to take out a loan and borrow against his own assets? Why didn't his wife's company just "donate" the money for his Texas campaign.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 02:21 PM (E6RIJ)
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"Trump should be able to hold all the Romney states,"
This assumption is just that.
Name me one Romney 2012 state he'd lose with a 5% to 7% boost in non-college white turnout. Hillary won't get Obama's Black turnout, nor his Young turnout.
"Non-college white" is by far the largest cohort out there, but they've been ignored by the Rs and actively alienated by the Ds.
Trump knows the potential of undeveloped real estate when he sees it.
This assumption is just that.
Name me one Romney 2012 state he'd lose with a 5% to 7% boost in non-college white turnout. Hillary won't get Obama's Black turnout, nor his Young turnout.
"Non-college white" is by far the largest cohort out there, but they've been ignored by the Rs and actively alienated by the Ds.
Trump knows the potential of undeveloped real estate when he sees it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:21 PM (bQxkN)
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"80% of people are against third trimester abortion"
But a sizeable majority are for allowing first trimester abortions. Which is contra to Cruz's position.
With their PP videos, Breitbart's acolytes gave the Right to Life movement the opening to reframe the question to be "when does infanticide begin?" But they and the GOPe blew it, and Breitbart's acolytes got hit with felony charges -- in Texas.
But a sizeable majority are for allowing first trimester abortions. Which is contra to Cruz's position.
With their PP videos, Breitbart's acolytes gave the Right to Life movement the opening to reframe the question to be "when does infanticide begin?" But they and the GOPe blew it, and Breitbart's acolytes got hit with felony charges -- in Texas.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:26 PM (bQxkN)
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Trump knows the potential of undeveloped real estate when he sees it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:21 PM (bQxkN)
Trump loves the "uneducated".
Why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:21 PM (bQxkN)
Trump loves the "uneducated".
Why do you suppose that is?
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 02:26 PM (aRUb8)
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>>>>In the general, the Democrat attack machine will rip him apart, and he
won't be able to handle it. Trump is still standing despite the fact
that our party has turned on its front runner with more firepower and
hatred than it ever used against Obama.
~~~~~
None of the "firepower" that has been directed at Trump has gotten any legs because the MSM wants him to be the Republican nominee. You can be sure they will change their tune if (hopefully not when) it is Trump vs. Hillary.
won't be able to handle it. Trump is still standing despite the fact
that our party has turned on its front runner with more firepower and
hatred than it ever used against Obama.
~~~~~
None of the "firepower" that has been directed at Trump has gotten any legs because the MSM wants him to be the Republican nominee. You can be sure they will change their tune if (hopefully not when) it is Trump vs. Hillary.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 02:27 PM (E6RIJ)
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Trump knows the potential of undeveloped real estate when he sees it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:21 PM
~~~~~
Yeah, like Atlantic City.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:21 PM
~~~~~
Yeah, like Atlantic City.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 02:29 PM (E6RIJ)
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But a sizeable majority are for allowing first trimester abortions. Which is contra to Cruz's position.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:26 PM (bQxkN)
How so? If Roe v Wade were overturned, abortion is still legal. The only thing that happens, is that the 10th is upheld as part of the Constitution.This is a good thing imo, and consistent with Cruz's position as one who upholds the Constitution.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 02:26 PM (bQxkN)
How so? If Roe v Wade were overturned, abortion is still legal. The only thing that happens, is that the 10th is upheld as part of the Constitution.This is a good thing imo, and consistent with Cruz's position as one who upholds the Constitution.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 02:30 PM (aRUb8)
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None of the "firepower" that has been directed at
Trump has gotten any legs because the MSM wants him to be the Republican
nominee.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 02:27 PM (E6RIJ)
So does the GOPe, imo.
Trump has gotten any legs because the MSM wants him to be the Republican
nominee.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 02:27 PM (E6RIJ)
So does the GOPe, imo.
Posted by: Mimzey at April 13, 2016 02:34 PM (aRUb8)
468
"Alex Jones friendly" oh my.
That tarbrush is gonna stick to your hand. Even now it splatters, masking the delicious scent of hobo musk on your raggedy-ass Ewok fur.
But... nth degree of separation disqualifiers, on a Smart Military Blog? Let me clarify the trope; we should never listen to anybody who fails to denounce anyone we disagree with, amiright?
We get that you're passionate. You still shouldn't deploy insulting levels of rhetorical fail.
That tarbrush is gonna stick to your hand. Even now it splatters, masking the delicious scent of hobo musk on your raggedy-ass Ewok fur.
But... nth degree of separation disqualifiers, on a Smart Military Blog? Let me clarify the trope; we should never listen to anybody who fails to denounce anyone we disagree with, amiright?
We get that you're passionate. You still shouldn't deploy insulting levels of rhetorical fail.
Posted by: So it's come to this at April 13, 2016 02:38 PM (5VvBx)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 13, 2016 02:40 PM (E6RIJ)
470
Fact: Colorado set the rules in August.
Fact: 65000 people voted in CO.
Fact: Trump fired his man in CO late last week.
This tells me that Trump and his org failed to use the system in place to win.
There is the argument he is playing the bigger game for 1237 made before. If that were true why fire the man.
If they really did not know the rules, he and his org are incompetent. If he did know the rules, he is lying to us for the sake of press attention.
Which is he incompetent, or dishonest.
Fact: 65000 people voted in CO.
Fact: Trump fired his man in CO late last week.
This tells me that Trump and his org failed to use the system in place to win.
There is the argument he is playing the bigger game for 1237 made before. If that were true why fire the man.
If they really did not know the rules, he and his org are incompetent. If he did know the rules, he is lying to us for the sake of press attention.
Which is he incompetent, or dishonest.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 02:41 PM (Gl74b)
471
. He is no less dishonest than Donald Trump or anyone else in this contest
______
That's the whole basis of the "lying Ted" gambit.say it enough, people will think it must be true.
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That's the whole basis of the "lying Ted" gambit.say it enough, people will think it must be true.
Posted by: Sippin_bourbon at April 13, 2016 02:45 PM (Gl74b)
472
Ain't it obvious that Trump is doing a demolition job on the Republican Party and conservatism? Who benefits; besides Trump?
Disgusting to see Limbaugh turn into a Lord Haw Haw for Trump and Breitbart and Drudge into Trump Pravda like propaganda outlets. Fox is Trump's Isvestia.
Who would have ever thought that Limbaugh, Breitbart, Drudge and Fox would be aligned with Alex Jones/Info Wars, Roger Stone, and RT News in support of the same presidential candidate?
Disgusting to see Limbaugh turn into a Lord Haw Haw for Trump and Breitbart and Drudge into Trump Pravda like propaganda outlets. Fox is Trump's Isvestia.
Who would have ever thought that Limbaugh, Breitbart, Drudge and Fox would be aligned with Alex Jones/Info Wars, Roger Stone, and RT News in support of the same presidential candidate?
Posted by: El Alamein at April 13, 2016 02:46 PM (bSxRn)
473
Ignoramus,
Why do you think Austin and Houston are the same as Texas, as a whole?
And why does the majority position abortion only matter in Democrats' favor?
Why do you think Austin and Houston are the same as Texas, as a whole?
And why does the majority position abortion only matter in Democrats' favor?
Posted by: Nom de Blog at April 13, 2016 03:00 PM (HeZ0H)
474
"And why does the majority position abortion only matter in Democrats' favor?"
Wish it weren't so but it's consensus building. The Strong Pro-Life position does not have broad national support, and a President really isn't in a position to do that much on abortion.
Wish it weren't so but it's consensus building. The Strong Pro-Life position does not have broad national support, and a President really isn't in a position to do that much on abortion.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 13, 2016 03:08 PM (bQxkN)
475
"Cruz should also be able to hold all the Romney states, BUT he hasn't had the buckets of pig blood rained on his head yet. "
Winner,winner chicken dinner.
Winner,winner chicken dinner.
Posted by: jacke at April 13, 2016 04:01 PM (i8Shl)
476
Yes, I am in a minority, but just wanted to point out there are Africans who live ok, despite the messed up dysfunction of most societies there.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
It's always refreshing to read your comments, wheather I agree with them or not. You are an individual person- as everyone else on this planet is- and you do not run from your heritage as so many people of all backgrounds do these days.
I hope I'm not seeming to single you out. You deserve nothing more or less than anyone else based on their skin color or background and that's the way you present yourself.
If only we could/would use somone of your caliber as a limitist test for immigration we would be the country our founders invisioned.
Most citizens born here could also use you as a personal limitist test.
Posted by: chique d'afrique
It's always refreshing to read your comments, wheather I agree with them or not. You are an individual person- as everyone else on this planet is- and you do not run from your heritage as so many people of all backgrounds do these days.
I hope I'm not seeming to single you out. You deserve nothing more or less than anyone else based on their skin color or background and that's the way you present yourself.
If only we could/would use somone of your caliber as a limitist test for immigration we would be the country our founders invisioned.
Most citizens born here could also use you as a personal limitist test.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 13, 2016 06:56 PM (8AdYN)
477
"Ain't it obvious that Trump is doing a demolition job on the Republican Party and conservatism? Who benefits; besides Trump?"
America. The removal of a party indistinguishable from a fake opposition party and the cutting off of people with conservative instincts from sympathy with the failures of the Republicans is all to the good, as you can form a real opposition, that actually OPPOSES THE RULING PARTY out of them.
"Disgusting to see Limbaugh turn into a Lord Haw Haw for Trump and Breitbart and Drudge into Trump Pravda like propaganda outlets. Fox is Trump's Isvestia."
THREE SEPERATE METAPHORS IN A SINGLE SENTENCE IS OVER THE LEGAL CONVERSATIONAL LIMIT, BIGOT!
"Who would have ever thought that Limbaugh, Breitbart, Drudge and Fox would be aligned with Alex Jones/Info Wars, Roger Stone, and RT News in support of the same presidential candidate?"
Who'd have thought useful and effective democratic coalition building would ever have to include the left as well as the right half of the conservative Bell curve? The young as well as the old? The Russians as well as the Americans? The populists as well as the ideologues? It's almost like a "window" or "tent" is being "widened" (under the three metaphor limit there, check it out.
America. The removal of a party indistinguishable from a fake opposition party and the cutting off of people with conservative instincts from sympathy with the failures of the Republicans is all to the good, as you can form a real opposition, that actually OPPOSES THE RULING PARTY out of them.
"Disgusting to see Limbaugh turn into a Lord Haw Haw for Trump and Breitbart and Drudge into Trump Pravda like propaganda outlets. Fox is Trump's Isvestia."
THREE SEPERATE METAPHORS IN A SINGLE SENTENCE IS OVER THE LEGAL CONVERSATIONAL LIMIT, BIGOT!
"Who would have ever thought that Limbaugh, Breitbart, Drudge and Fox would be aligned with Alex Jones/Info Wars, Roger Stone, and RT News in support of the same presidential candidate?"
Who'd have thought useful and effective democratic coalition building would ever have to include the left as well as the right half of the conservative Bell curve? The young as well as the old? The Russians as well as the Americans? The populists as well as the ideologues? It's almost like a "window" or "tent" is being "widened" (under the three metaphor limit there, check it out.
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 13, 2016 08:23 PM (61Gds)
478
Companion to number 447 above, if you don't like how we're widening the discourse, you're welcome to join a group of people whom you probably resemble:
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/04/trump-country-is-most-deeply-rooted.html
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2016/04/trump-country-is-most-deeply-rooted.html
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 13, 2016 08:27 PM (61Gds)
479
Hey ace, theft by definition is still theft regardless of whether it is legal or in keeping with the rules or not. See IRS. I won't disagree that Cruz is playing by the rules, the problem is that the rules are a form of corruption.
Stick your nose in the air all you want about what a Zulu Warlock Cruz is, see how far that kind of attitude goes to persuade normal people that feel disenfranchised.
The right to vote and have a say is central to our system, how many have died on the battlefield for that right? You've got Benie people being fucked by DNC Superdelegates. You've got Trump people being fucked by the GOP and Media in every way possible.
The problem right now is voters are not being represented, no taxation without representation and all that. The current system is such that there are two parties that dominate everything and we have no choice but to submit to the will of those parties. The laws, the rules, all of it is designed to give them ultimate power over the process. End result is the party cabals choose our choices for us. People should be upset.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (HeK4a)
The problem with this argument is it presupposes the Constitutional Might of the parties. The Parties are social clubs that nominate people for office. They have no standing, and we are very glad that they aren't run by government burocrats. If parties want to have primaries, I think they should pay for them themselves.
Stick your nose in the air all you want about what a Zulu Warlock Cruz is, see how far that kind of attitude goes to persuade normal people that feel disenfranchised.
The right to vote and have a say is central to our system, how many have died on the battlefield for that right? You've got Benie people being fucked by DNC Superdelegates. You've got Trump people being fucked by the GOP and Media in every way possible.
The problem right now is voters are not being represented, no taxation without representation and all that. The current system is such that there are two parties that dominate everything and we have no choice but to submit to the will of those parties. The laws, the rules, all of it is designed to give them ultimate power over the process. End result is the party cabals choose our choices for us. People should be upset.
Posted by: #NeverHillary at April 13, 2016 12:27 PM (HeK4a)
The problem with this argument is it presupposes the Constitutional Might of the parties. The Parties are social clubs that nominate people for office. They have no standing, and we are very glad that they aren't run by government burocrats. If parties want to have primaries, I think they should pay for them themselves.
Posted by: Old Toby at April 13, 2016 09:26 PM (0M8t7)
480
405 Solicitor General of Texas doesn't pick and choose what cases to defend. I'm not going to go in circles with you on silly shit like Cruz could have quit as Solicitor General. Whomever the Nominee is they will be attacked. The point I was making is that Cruz is plenty capable of defending himself.
Posted by: Arson Wells
So somebody forces him at gunpoint to write a memo stating there was a "government" interest, in "discouraging autonomous sex.
"discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification"
He lost the case by the way.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 01:10 PM (A2FEp)
So is losing a feature or a bug?
Posted by: Arson Wells
So somebody forces him at gunpoint to write a memo stating there was a "government" interest, in "discouraging autonomous sex.
"discouraging prurient interests in sexual gratification"
He lost the case by the way.
Posted by: Tyrone at April 13, 2016 01:10 PM (A2FEp)
So is losing a feature or a bug?
Posted by: Old Toby at April 13, 2016 09:30 PM (0M8t7)
481
Has anyone considered that having Cruz and the GOPe preen publicly in their apple-polishing way that "WE FOLLOWED ALL THE RULES AND DID ALL THE EXTRA CREDIT" might in fact serve to make the majority of their voters hate them more?
Like, do you even reputation, bro?
Like, do you even reputation, bro?
Posted by: Dystopia Max at April 14, 2016 12:13 AM (61Gds)
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