Overnight Open Thread (4-10-2016)

Quote of the Day I - All Within the State, Nothing Outside the State Edition

"I don't believe in charities," said Mayor Sanders, bringing a shocked silence to a packed hotel banquet room. The Mayor, who is a Socialist, went on to question the "fundamental concepts on which charities are based" and contended that government, rather than charity organizations, should take over responsibility for social programs.

-- Bernie Sanders in 1981

Quote of the Day II

I continue to respect Jenner's past accomplishments, I appreciate that his political values are conservative, I dislike his exhibitionism, and I feel compassion for how obviously he suffers as he tries to find a happy meeting spot for his body and his mind.  But he's not a hero by my definition of the word, nor his he normal.  The problem, though, is that once you've normalized Mapplethorpe's S&M and penis worship, you've made it awfully difficult to back away from conversations about whether Bruce has or has not augmented his false breasts with an amputated penis and artificial vagina.

-- Bookworm in Was Mapplethorpe the moment we lost the battle for American culture?

Quote of the Day III

We gotta get out while we're young

'Cause tramps like us, baby we were born respectively as a cis gender male assigned male at birth and a cis female assigned female at birth although obviously that entire binary concept supports outmoded privilege structures that do not recognise the legitimacy of sexuality's fluid reality which should allow people to wander into any toilet they please based on how they identify at that precise moment in time.

-- Bruce Springsteen circa 2016

Quote of the Day IV

Bill Clinton injected a disruptive element into the Democratic presidential campaign yesterday: truth. The question now is: How will his wife recover from this alien intrusion?

-- Heather Mac Donald on Bill's critique of BLM protesters

Quote of the Day V

I think there's something very profound about the Chinese idea that revolutions are primarily an effort to bring about the rectification of names; that the demand for justice is first and foremost a demand that words and reality come back into alignment. Nothing is more infuriating than to be told not to believe your lying eyes - or your empty stomach. Take a moment to ponder various revolutions around the globe over history and ask yourself if there isn't something to that.

-- Jonah Goldberg on the Rectification of the Names

The Finnish Model

Finland is experimenting with replacing their welfare state with a universal basic income (UBI) implemented via a negative income tax.

This year, the Finnish government hopes to begin granting every adult citizen a monthly allowance of ?800 (roughly $900). Whether rich or poor, each citizen will be free to use the money as he or she sees fit. The idea is that people are responsible for their actions. If someone decides to spend their ?800 on vodka, that is their decision, and has nothing to do with the government. In return for the UBI, however, the public accepts the elimination of most welfare services. Currently, the Finnish government offers a variety of income-based assistance programs for everything from housing to children's education to property insulation. Axing these programs should free up enough public resources to finance the UBI. The bureaucracy that currently governs welfare payments will disappear. There will no longer be any need to ask for government help, nor to fill out forms or wait for the competent authorities to examine each dossier to determine eligibility.

Lots of People Are Losing Distance Vision, and No One Knows Why

Out of sight, another epidemic is silently raging: myopia, or nearsightedness. Between the 1970s and the early aughts, the incidence of myopia in the US nearly doubled, to 42 percent. Myopia's rise has been the starkest in Asia; one survey in Korea found a rate as high as 96 percent among teenagers.

Spending time outside seems to reduce the amount of nearsightedness but scientists aren't sure whether it's distance focusing or bright sunlight that is the reason.

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Government Switches Back to Old School Highway Sign Font

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The BUFFs Join the Fight Against ISIS

Which means that ISIS fighters are going to be killed by machines built when their grandfathers were still young.

b52strato

SDB: Drones and the March of Technology

It's possible that in ten years it will be just as cheap and common for private citizens to have their own airforce equivalents, the way we have the equivalent of printing presses now. How, for instance, do you maintain security over major buildings like the US Capitol when any crank can put a pipe bomb on a drone and send it in?

And not just major political targets. Will "pro-life" cranks start using drones to bomb abortion clinics? Will "gun control" advocates start making airstrikes against large gun stores and shooting ranges? When will we see a public official who is giving a speech get attacked by a drone? How do you fend that off? (Even if all it does is to disrupt the speech and panic the crowd, that may be enough for some attackers.)

How do you protect a big natgas storage facility against drones that don't care about barbed-wire fences?

And if it's a drone with a decent radio range, which is carrying a camera in addition to a bomb, then the attacker could be anywhere. How do you find them?

And how many will there be? This kind of attack could be launched for under $1000 by anyone with a grievance. (And there are a lot of grievances out there!)

I don't think this is going to cause as much change, or as widespread of change, as the internet did, but it's going to change a lot of things. For instance, it may become the norm for heads of state to make speeches by TV instead of in person. And just as the internet has changed the way campaigns are run, the fear of drone attack will change them too.

Respect the Tannerite

For those not familiar with it Tannerite is an explosive that is primarily used by shooters to make exploding targets. It's legal in nearly every state because it's made out of inert ingredients (primarily ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder) that only become explosive when mixed together. Even then it's a relatively insensitive explosive that can only be set off by shooting it with a bullet going faster than about 2200 fps. There are even recipes for making your own on the internet based on cold packs (Walgreens) and aluminum powder (Ebay).

But just because it's legal for casual use does not mean that it's not a real explosive and that you can get away with not respecting it. The recommended standoff distance is 100 meters for every pound used. But here a Georgia man packed a lawn mower with 3 lbs of Tannerite and then shot it from about 15 feet away and got his leg severed by a piece of shrapnel. Luckily his life was saved by his friends applying a tourniquet and rushing him out to a road where he was air lifted to a local hospital.

And then there was an article in the March issue of Firearm News (formerly Shotgun News) on the British PIAT gun that had this little tidbit on Tannerite.*

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*AoSHQ not responsible for any dumbassery resulting from this information.

Life At The Embassy House, South of Saigon, Vietnam, 1968-1969

Lance Nix was a private stationed in Vietnam in 1968. Since he was part of the Phoenix Program (which identified and liquidated Viet Cong members) and wore civvies it's clear that he worked in intelligence and may have been involved in covert actions. Here is a collection of of photos he took during his time in Vietnam. It's a fascinating look at the people involved at that particular time and place.

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The Ultimate List of Weapons Astronauts Have Carried Into Orbit

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Censored Images From America's Great Depression

For whatever reason these photos were deemed unacceptable for the US Farm Security Administration's documentation of the lives of farm workers during the 30s.

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Group Jump Rope Routine in Japan

Weekly Commenter Standings

Top 10 commenters:
1 [438 comments] 'Ricardo Kill' [61.50 posts/day]
2 [416 comments] 'Ghost of kari - certified inane'
3 [381 comments] 'Bruce With a Wang!'
4 [326 comments] 'Skip'
5 [278 comments] 'Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants '
6 [272 comments] '@votermom'
7 [272 comments] 'garrett'
8 [263 comments] 'Vic We Have No Party'
9 [253 comments] 'rickb223'
10 [250 comments] 'Insomniac'

Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
1 [91 names] 'Cankles Clinton' [12.78 unique names/day]
2 [73 names] 'The Political Hat'
3 [47 names] 'In Vino Veritits'
4 [44 names] 'Bertram Cabot Jr.'
5 [40 names] 'garrett'
6 [38 names] 'Islamic Rage Boy'
7 [36 names] 'Tim in Illinois. Bitten by the lazy bug.'
8 [34 names] 'Blue Hen'
9 [34 names] 'FaCubeItches'
10 [33 names] 'Ready For Hillary!!11!!'

The group. Banned on 12 universities.

Tonight's post brought to you by a composite selfie taken by Curiosity on January 19, 2016:

This self-portrait of NASA's Curiosity Mars rover shows the vehicle at "Namib Dune," where the rover's activities included scuffing into the dune with a wheel and scooping samples of sand for laboratory analysis. The scene combines 57 images taken on Jan. 19, 2016, during the 1,228th Martian day, or sol, of Curiosity's work on Mars. The camera used for this is the Mars Hand Lens Imager (MAHLI) at the end of the rover's robotic arm. Namib Dune is part of the dark-sand "Bagnold Dune Field" along the northwestern flank of Mount Sharp. Images taken from orbit have shown that dunes in the Bagnold field move as much as about 3 feet (1 meter) per Earth year. (NASA / JPL-Caltech / MSSS) 

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1 What, I'm first AGAIN?!?!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 10:52 PM (ntObR)

2 First

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 10:52 PM (8AdYN)

3 first? no way!

Posted by: chemjeff at April 10, 2016 10:52 PM (uZNvH)

4 alas, no way it is

Posted by: chemjeff at April 10, 2016 10:53 PM (uZNvH)

5 D'oh!

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 10:53 PM (8AdYN)

6 chemjeff, I know. Dang ONT's been up for almost 10 minutes.

Don't people CARE anymore?!?!?!?!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 10:53 PM (ntObR)

7 Hola, amigoz en loz intertuboz!!!

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2016 10:53 PM (EzgxV)

8 So question for the horde.

I have never owned a firearm, but am considering whether I should give it a try.

If I do choose to purchase a firearm, can I store it at a shooting range/club generally? I know there are a few in my area.

Is a rifle or a pistol a better introduction to shooting? And roughly how much would I be spending both for the initial purchase and ammo/shooting range bills?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 10, 2016 10:53 PM (pibXr)

9 Hope Alberta Oil Peon shows up a bit early tonight. He posted some stuff last night that I'd like to respond to. (No worries, it's not a fight, just want to chat with him.) ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 10:54 PM (ntObR)

10 Lots of People Are Losing Distance Vision, and No One Knows Why

Duh. Since the dawn of television, and from early childhood, people are spending more and more and more and more time in front of TV screens and monitors.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 10:54 PM (ntObR)

11 My eyesight certainly isn't what it used to be--which does make me wonder.

On the other hand I am old enough to remember black and white television and the early Beatles.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 10, 2016 10:55 PM (4rzL1)

12 So let me get this straight...we're gonna bomb ISIS with planes that bombed Hanoi.

Or, at least the ones that were held out as too important for SAC to send over the NVA SAMs.

Planes that were built about the time I learned to walk.

Okay, great hardware, but Jeebus even the British didn't send any of Nelson's ships off to the Crimean War.

Posted by: JEM at April 10, 2016 10:55 PM (o+SC1)

13 Woot woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 10:55 PM (voOPb)

14 Can't lie that Finnish model is interesting even if it fails miserably.

Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at April 10, 2016 10:55 PM (R5HRU)

15 Just stopped by to say good night, horde.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2016 10:56 PM (kTF2Z)

16 Storms to the north of us.
Storms to the south.
Here I am.
Stuck in the middle with y'all.

Howdy. Back up to the content now...

Posted by: mindful webworker - Oklahoma in the Spring at April 10, 2016 10:57 PM (5a8XA)

17 Glad they're going back to the previous don't on roadsigns.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 10:58 PM (8AdYN)

18 Oh my God.

*Shames self*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 10, 2016 10:58 PM (9ym/8)

19 Huh, I took the garbage out and I'm NOT FIRST.

Meh...I could give a sheet.

Hi you Morons, thanks Maet.

Posted by: Farmer at April 10, 2016 10:59 PM (o/90i)

20 The Shame.

Half of that was just bragging on my long lost sweet Hash, too.

Posted by: garrett at April 10, 2016 11:00 PM (xUVR8)

21 Don't= font

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 11:00 PM (8AdYN)

22 Lots 'o content

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:00 PM (voOPb)

23 It's that damn global climate warming change that's causing the myopia.

Posted by: Hank at April 10, 2016 11:01 PM (i1Vpp)

24 AmeriDan, if you travel on some of the older freeways in SoCal near the core of LA, such as on the 110 and 710, there's some road signs that actually look as if they're original from the 1950s. Dirty, worn out, and the white lettering is literally surrounded in grime.

Time to replace some of those, I think.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:02 PM (ntObR)

25 14 Can't lie that Finnish model is interesting even if it fails miserably.
Posted by: thathalfrican - be water my friend at April 10, 2016 10:55 PM (R5HRU)

Milton Friedman was a proponent of the negative income tax.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at April 10, 2016 11:02 PM (aqHHa)

26 Hello, everyone.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at April 10, 2016 11:03 PM (rJUlF)

27 Just what the f*ck are they blacking out in those photos?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:03 PM (voOPb)

28 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at April 10, 2016 11:03 PM (YJmuy)

29 Check the headlines at Drudge.

I'll be back later to see what ya think.

Posted by: The Hot Gates at April 10, 2016 11:03 PM (k3uSs)

30 I knew that Tannerite vid was bad without reading when I saw the blood splattered on the camera lens and the guy's pants.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:04 PM (hVdx9)

31 A return to April too!

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:04 PM (OC+TJ)

32 16 Storms to the north of us.

OK--without looking. Who was the most famous member of Stealer's Wheel?

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 10, 2016 11:04 PM (LHrrs)

33 Mapplethorpe was an awesome photographer. I know he did some icky homo stuff, but check out his book "Some Women" for an artistic view of the female form.

The women are as of marble. The silver gelatin prints are craftsmanship.

Also, before any of them were famous he was living with Patti Smith and Sam Shepard and they were dreaming together. I always meant to be one of those people.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 10, 2016 11:04 PM (1xUj/)

34 MH, was wondering the same thing.

I don't think they were blacking out anything, just marking the photos randomly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:04 PM (ntObR)

35 >>Just what the f*ck are they blacking out in those photos?


Vestigial Nipples and Belt Onions.

Posted by: garrett at April 10, 2016 11:05 PM (xUVR8)

36 Time to replace some of those, I think.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Sure, replace as needed. I just think the font used on earlier signs should be used on the newer signs.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 11:05 PM (8AdYN)

37 Tannerite can be fun stuff. As in, 8 lbs, in an old Igloo cooler at 80 yards.

About a dozen shooters lit it off, firing squad style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRj9WZ_FDDA

Good thing the Igloo was foam and light molded plastic. The shrapnel from that blast tickled a little. Had it had the mass of a metal, it'd have done more than tickle a bit.

Impressive stuff, with respectable potential for creative usage.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2016 11:05 PM (McRlu)

38 Posted by: The Hot Gates at April 10, 2016 11:03 PM (k3uSs)

Boy, you're a trouble maker

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:05 PM (voOPb)

39 >>I knew that Tannerite vid was bad


when I read in the description that they used it to make a tractor into an IED.

Posted by: garrett at April 10, 2016 11:06 PM (xUVR8)

40 Gee, the Abigail shrunk. Last year it has about 4 decks.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 10, 2016 11:07 PM (iQIUe)

41 Allright off to flagellate myself.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 10, 2016 11:08 PM (9ym/8)

42 Well, I went thru all the photos I think the black outs are stupid

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:08 PM (voOPb)

43 Gee, the Abigail shrunk. Last year it has about 4 decks

They do depreciate when you drive them off the lot

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:09 PM (OC+TJ)

44 I'd like to walk into Bruce Springsteen's mansion and say "Hey, I identify as Bruce Springsteen. Get the hell out of my place you jerk."

Posted by: Markon at April 10, 2016 11:09 PM (5YFSw)

45 I saw lawn mower boys story earlier this past week. I thought what a genius

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:09 PM (voOPb)

46 There used to be some great websites with lots of pics of SoCal freeways in the 1930s, 40s, every decade up through the 1990s. Unfortunately they appear to have been taken down, I can't find them anymore.

Some of the 1950s freeway signs are especially interesting. Instead of listing miles by halves or quarters, they would actually use tenths, and would format the numbers similarly to how you would denote a number to the nth power. This according to one of the missing sites was finally eliminated in 1966; I can understand why that format might have been confusing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:10 PM (ntObR)

47 18-1.

Rent guns at the range, and hire an NRA certified instructor for your safety, correct knowledge and general well-being.

And visit Kathy Jackson's website;

http://www.corneredcat.com

First, she's one of the Nation's foremost competitors and instructors. Second, unlike a lot of the "instructional" dreck online, every word on her site is good as gold.

Study carefully the sections on Safety, and on Philosophy, specifically on the morality issues, guns in the home, etc.

Don't buy a gun until you get more guidance, FIRST.

Get some quality guidance, and well guided experience, and as with any other Martial Art, when the student is ready, the teacher (or in this case, the right gun), will be revealed.

And hang out 'round AoS. Lot of good shooters and knowledgeable Smart Military Blog type Morons around here, y'know.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 10, 2016 11:11 PM (McRlu)

48 The positioning of the blackouts in some of those pictures inspired me to think of this little piece of mood music.

https://youtu.be/3mbBbFH9fAg

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at April 10, 2016 11:12 PM (rJUlF)

49 ...the reason Clearview might have seemed easier to read was simply because the new font meant that older, worn-down signs were being replaced with fresh ones....

* forehead slap *

Posted by: mindful webworker - it's Science! at April 10, 2016 11:13 PM (5a8XA)

50 when I read in the description that they used it to make a tractor into an IED.

Posted by: garrett
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I went straight to the vid. I swear you can see the chunk of metal that took his leg off strike the ground before it takes his leg off.

As for making an RPG head out of it- I don't think so.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:13 PM (hVdx9)

51 8 So question for the horde.

I have never owned a firearm, but am considering whether I should give it a try.

If I do choose to purchase a firearm, can I store it at a shooting range/club generally? I know there are a few in my area.

Is a rifle or a pistol a better introduction to shooting? And roughly how much would I be spending both for the initial purchase and ammo/shooting range bills?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 10, 2016 10:53 PM (pibXr)



IMHO, you do it the way I did -- you first take a firearms safety class to help you get past the media BS. Next, you go to a range that rents guns and try several flavors. Note well that you will shoot better with some guns than with others -- this is why all pistols are not the redoubtable 1911. Then, and only then, do you think about purchasing one.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2016 11:14 PM (EzgxV)

52 If we're going to have a welfare state a UBI is probably better than the 1000 welfare programs we have. It costs a lot less to cut everyone a check than administer all those programs

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 10, 2016 11:14 PM (0LHZx)

53 I also love the story that CalTrans is STILL trying to finish Interstate 710.

They "temporarily halted" construction in South Pasadena in 1965, and some of the unfinished overpass berms are *still there.* Think it's time to give up, folks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:14 PM (ntObR)

54 So question for the horde.



I have never owned a firearm, but am considering whether I should give it a try.



If I do choose to purchase a firearm, can I store it at a shooting range/club generally? I know there are a few in my area.



Is a rifle or a pistol a better introduction to shooting? And
roughly how much would I be spending both for the initial purchase and
ammo/shooting range bills?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 10, 2016 10:53 PM (pibXr)



18-1, you can definitely try before you buy. What's your general area?
Also, the Appleseed Project http://appleseedinfo.org/ will give you a great weekend of rifle instruction for cheap, and will most likely be able to loan you a rifle for the weekend.

Posted by: Steck at April 10, 2016 11:14 PM (ht/89)

55 This is hilarious. They changed the boat in Fear the walking Dead and even went back in the recap and changed it there, too. I know this because I watched the last eipsode of S1 earlier today.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 10, 2016 11:15 PM (iQIUe)

56 I don't know about the censored photos. I think the blackouts weren't to censor something specific but might just have been to mark the photo as "not to be used" even if the guy/s did decide to use more than one or just do the sky or sun.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2016 11:15 PM (3MK6t)

57 Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:14 PM (ntObR)

Completion of bullett trains will make you forget those failures QDP

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:16 PM (voOPb)

58 Commie Springsteen is a homo-hugger.

Posted by: CrustyB at April 10, 2016 11:16 PM (Hnglq)

59 This reminds me of a story my mother told me ...

There was a family in the town where she grew up that had 10 children. The Townspeople always wondered what would possess them to have 10 children. When asked they responded ...

"We like to 'do it' ... don't you ?"

Posted by: James T Kirk at April 10, 2016 11:17 PM (e8kgV)

60 Highway Goths once dotted the landscape, snearing at all who passed by from under green-streaked bangs

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:17 PM (OC+TJ)

61 "I don't believe in charities," said Mayor Sanders...

Of course not. Someone having enough to give charitably would mean the government had left them too much of their own money. Can't have that.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Socialism Science! at April 10, 2016 11:17 PM (5a8XA)

62 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11509

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 10, 2016 11:17 PM (vBeA5)

63 32 16 Storms to the north of us.

OK--without looking. Who was the most famous member of Stealer's Wheel?

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 10, 2016 11:04 PM (LHrrs)



Who was the other guy besides Gerry Rafferty?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2016 11:17 PM (EzgxV)

64 I don't know about the censored photos. I think the blackouts weren't to censor something specific but might just have been to mark the photo as "not to be used" even if the guy/s did decide to use more than one or just do the sky or sun.

Agree, it's pretty hard to come up with something that would have needed to be censored behind a lot of those black dots.

Posted by: AD at April 10, 2016 11:17 PM (QWY55)

65 Problem with the UBI though is the same as the problem with a national sales tax. UBI is supposed to replace welfare just like a sales tax is supposed to replace the income tax. What will happen inevitably though is neither will replace anything. We'll end up with UBI and welfare just like we'll end up with the sales tax and an income tax.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 10, 2016 11:18 PM (0LHZx)

66 MH, LOL.

I want President Trump to build a bullet train from LA to Vegas. It'll be yuge!!!! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:18 PM (ntObR)

67 This whole Springsteen not baking the cake ... is pissy

Posted by: James T Kirk at April 10, 2016 11:19 PM (e8kgV)

68 The very early Interstate highway signs had the letters traced with round reflectors. I haven't seen one of those in years.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 10, 2016 11:19 PM (mn0Jm)

69 63. Who was the other guy besides Gerry Rafferty?

Joe Egan. But Gerry Rafferty was the answer to my question.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at April 10, 2016 11:19 PM (LHrrs)

70 Looking at those depression pictures the striking thing for me is how happy a lot of those people look.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 10, 2016 11:20 PM (0LHZx)

71 Jinx, that's what's still there on the 110 and 710 in SoCal.

Unfortunately, the tracing is just caked with grime by now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:20 PM (ntObR)

72 Looks like they were using a hole punch to annotate which photos had been rejected for any reason, not as a censor

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2016 11:20 PM (zOTsN)

73 Wasn't most of the I-15 in California and Nevada just a two-lane highway until the 1980s?

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:22 PM (ntObR)

74 44: last i heard he lives in the barn. not the mansion.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 10, 2016 11:22 PM (ucDmr)

75 So question for the horde.

I have never owned a firearm, but am considering whether I should give it a try.

If I do choose to purchase a firearm, can I store it at a shooting range/club generally? I know there are a few in my area.

Is a rifle or a pistol a better introduction to shooting? And roughly how much would I be spending both for the initial purchase and ammo/shooting range bills?

Posted by: 18-1
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Jim nailed it in his response, so I will add a little info.
Rifles are generally easier to shoot. Two of my favorites a Ruger 10/22 rifle and Ruger Mark III pistol. They are small caliber (.22 LR) and there are tons of accessories out there so you can tweak them to your liking. New they go for about $250 to $300 (each). Ammo isn't too bad cost wise either. 500 rounds for anywhere from $40-$60.
As for range fees, it really depends. Here in AZ there are two outdoor ranges where I can spend $10 and shoot the whole day. There are indoor ranges here where $10 won't even get you in the building.
Hope that helps.
I mentione the .22LR caliber as it has almost no recoil and allows you to work on the fundamentals of site picture and trigger control. Once you have those down, you can step up to bigger calibers.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:23 PM (hVdx9)

76 Agree, it's pretty hard to come up with something that would have needed to be censored behind a lot of those black dots.
Yeah. What could possibly be offensive or against FDR policy above the hem of a dress---dog poo stain?

I thought the early one with the mother and the one kid in bed and two others outside might have been censoring side-boob and maybe seeing through her dress with the sunlight from the window but they didn't censor the girls' phys-ed one for potential naughtiness there.

And what could possibly have been on any of the walls that clearly weren't going to have been, say, advertising as with the one with the black kids and the white wooden house?

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2016 11:23 PM (3MK6t)

77 Instead of listing miles by halves or quarters, they would actually use tenths, and would format the numbers similarly to how you would denote a number to the nth power.
Posted by: qdsteve

I was told there would be no math while driving. ;-)

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 11:23 PM (8AdYN)

78 Posted by: mindful webworker - Socialism Science! at April 10, 2016 11:17 PM (5a8XA)

Not only that, they just know how to spend your money better than you do

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:23 PM (voOPb)

79 Looks like they were using a hole punch to annotate which photos had been rejected for any reason, not as a censor


Exactly. The black circles are hole punches in the negatives.

They're still awesome. I don't care about your digital anything, black and white photography of the 30's and 40's was an apogee of the art form.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 10, 2016 11:23 PM (1xUj/)

80 Allright off to flagellate myself.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 10, 2016 11:08 PM

Ok, just don't take too long. We don't want any ripped flesh on the ONT to bloody it up.

Posted by: Farmer at April 10, 2016 11:24 PM (o/90i)

81 Thanks, Maet. Night all!

Posted by: sinalco at April 10, 2016 11:24 PM (yODqO)

82 73 Wasn't most of the I-15 in California and Nevada just a two-lane highway until the 1980s?
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:22 PM (ntObR)

_____

How can an interstate be 2 lane highway? That's kind of the whole point of the interstate....expressways, not 2 lane highways.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 10, 2016 11:24 PM (0LHZx)

83 Tannerite video should have started off with "Here, hold my beer."

B-52's in Qatar. I hope this isn't a violation of the no politics policy of the ONT, but- Is Obama being seduced to the dark side of the Force by the lure of imperial, colonialist power? Is this how his ego faps? Or, in the final year of his presidency is he setting up the BUF's up as targets for jihadi's carrying the manpads and TOWs Obama supplied them? It would be a glorious chapter in his neutering of the American military.

Posted by: Spitball Speculator at April 10, 2016 11:24 PM (Fy9KA)

84 Moo Moo, I've read a lot of Interstate 5 was just two lanes until the 1970s and early 1980s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:25 PM (ntObR)

85 I'd accept the UBI if those receiving more in direct benefits/welfare, than they pay in taxes, lose the right to vote.

If you want to be treated like a kid with an allowance, than you shouldn't be trusted with the vote.

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 10, 2016 11:26 PM (vBeA5)

86 Haven't been around much lately due to being super sick and other stuff, so just wanted to say hey y'all.

Hey y'all!!!!

Posted by: Blano at April 10, 2016 11:26 PM (NHQQx)

87 "I can't live, if living is without you..."

I only recently learned, Badfinger's original blows Nilsson's remake away.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:27 PM (ntObR)

88

If I do choose to purchase a firearm, can I store it at a shooting range/club generally?

If you're considering storage at a range/club, why buy? Economically, it makes more sense to only rent when you shoot.


To avoid the usual question "What are you going to use the gun for?", as it seems that you only plan to shoot targets, .22 is a very economical choice. There are also many quality target pistols in .38 and .45.

If you decide that hunting or self defense are to be added as uses, then training, as previously mentioned, is a very good idea.

Posted by: Arbalest at April 10, 2016 11:27 PM (FlRtG)

89 i know, i know, i know... so what can i say?

i finally saw "office space" today on a channel called stars that my cable provider has for some unknown reason thrown my way...

what a great movie! genial! i mean, genius! mike judge? genial & genius level at least 100.

"yesterday i did absolutely nothing all day and it was everything i could have expected"

brilliant. because it's true.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:27 PM (WTSFk)

90 Blano, glad you're back, were you able to kick your illness?

Posted by: Steck at April 10, 2016 11:28 PM (ht/89)

91 Someone having enough to give charitably would mean the government had left them too much of their own money. Can't have that.
Posted by: mindful webworker
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Moreover, it means that the individual gets to self-direct their charity. I quit contributing to United Way a long time ago. My giving is now carefully controlled and directed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 10, 2016 11:29 PM (Z58Xa)

92 Just bought a Mossberg 88 today. Hopefully I'll find time in the next few weeks to take it out to the range and get some practice in.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 10, 2016 11:29 PM (fC9RO)

93 Hey y'all!!!!
Posted by: Blano at April 10, 2016 11:26 PM

Glad you're better. I had a bad bout w/ back issues recently, better now.

Posted by: Farmer at April 10, 2016 11:29 PM (o/90i)

94 ... tps reports be damned...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:30 PM (WTSFk)

95 black and white photography of the 30's and 40's was an apogee of the art form.

Pfft. It was all downhill after end of the daguerreotype. Can I interest anyone in some pornographic silhouettes? Puppetry of the Petticoats will blow your mind.

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:30 PM (OC+TJ)

96 So I made my daughter watch the rerun of UND winning the NCAA men's hockey championship last night.

Still annoyed they made us get rid of the Fighting Sioux name. She said it was because, Native American. I said, Florida Seminoles. She said, but, the word "fighting". I said, "Fighting Irish"

She said, not to offend the tribes. I said, but the tribes liked it. She said, but other people. I said, old white people at the NCAA should decide the name when the tribe in question liked it?

Then I told her UND has hosted the largest pow wow (Time Out Wacipi) for over 45 years. Then I showed her a ton of videos of the dancing and singing. I remember the Wacipi as being extremely loud. It was. Anyway it's sort of hypnotic watching the dancing. Especially the Prairie Chicken Dance

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2016 11:31 PM (zOTsN)

97 I'm still feeling bad from the Jordan Spieth's collapse. I shouldn't be this invested. I always make fun of others for the same thing regard to their football teams. So yeah little bit of a hypocrite:

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 10, 2016 11:32 PM (MNgU2)

98 Drawn lewd pictures are better.

Posted by: Ellen Baker at April 10, 2016 11:33 PM (vBeA5)

99 be nice about Bruce Springsteen. He had the position of being the "Joe Cocker who hated America" and now Joe Cocker is dead and forgotten and it is no longer transgressive to hate America.

The man clearly had to find a reason to stand out for the ticket buying public so they would be willing to plonk down $100+ on nosebleed tickets exclusive of parking in order to listen to oldies and covers rendered in rhythmical grunting punctuated by odd interludes of smoker's falsetto.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 10, 2016 11:34 PM (6DMur)

100 Two out of two Corsican Brothers agree

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:35 PM (OC+TJ)

101 Especially the Prairie Chicken Dance

Posted by: ThunderB

Okay, you made that part up, didn't you?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at April 10, 2016 11:36 PM (+1T7c)

102 62 The Political Hat

Thank you for the Twitter linkage today - much appreciated!

Posted by: speedster1 at April 10, 2016 11:36 PM (vUcdz)

103 Nope

Posted by: ThunderB at April 10, 2016 11:36 PM (zOTsN)

104
52 If we're going to have a welfare state a UBI is probably better than the 1000 welfare programs we have. It costs a lot less to cut everyone a check than administer all those programs
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 10, 2016 11:14 PM (0LHZx)

Why work if you are going to get paid for doing nothing?

The answer is not to expand the welfare state to everyone, but to just get rid of it.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2016 11:36 PM (MQEz6)

105 "92 Just bought a Mossberg 88 today. Hopefully I'll find time in the next few weeks to take it out to the range and get some practice in."

Eggzelent!

I think the Maverick is a super value.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 10, 2016 11:38 PM (eHpnh)

106 I'd just as soon identify as Ian Curtis, except without being dead.

Good evening morons!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 10, 2016 11:38 PM (6FqZa)

107 Posted by: Kindltot at April 10, 2016 11:34 PM

I'm just not sensing a lot of love for BS here. I liked his early music, was in college when he hit.

But he's not turned out to be any R n R hero for me. To each his own.

Posted by: Farmer at April 10, 2016 11:38 PM (o/90i)

108 Evening horde. How's everybody feeling.

If you haven't seen Little Big Shots (or some such) take some time out just to laugh at kids. On Sunday's at 7 and 8.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 10, 2016 11:39 PM (hlMPp)

109 ... the whole movie has a great cast including mike judge, the writer/director who appears as the manager in the restaurant aniston works in. gary cole, who plays lumber, says it bombed when it initially came out, playing 5 weeks and he forgot about bit. a year and a half later he was in chicago walking to the theater he was acting in when someone yelled out "hey lumber!' and people began walking up to him quoting his lines (like someone shouting at meryl streep "het meryl, a dingo ate my baby). that's when he knew it was something...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:40 PM (WTSFk)

110 lumberg not lumber (damn spelchek)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:41 PM (WTSFk)

111 I'd just as soon identify as Ian Curtis, except without being dead.
Good evening morons!
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 10, 2016 11:38 PM

Well, I'd just identify as Julius Caesar, cept for that nasty Ides of March meetup.

Posted by: Farmer at April 10, 2016 11:41 PM (o/90i)

112 If he would actually hit the notes, I would be happier. As it is, he offends me in all the ways possible.

I mean, I don't think he wears stripes with checks, but that is about it.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 10, 2016 11:41 PM (6DMur)

113 92 Just bought a Mossberg 88 today. Hopefully I'll find time in the next few weeks to take it out to the range and get some practice in.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 10, 2016 11:29 PM (fC9RO

Congrats!

But it's a shotgun...no need to practice. If your enemy doesn't shit themselves when you rack the pump then you just point in their general direction and blast them about 40 feet.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 10, 2016 11:42 PM (hlMPp)

114 In those censored pics, there was a place advertising Prince Albert piercings. Strange people back then.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:42 PM (hVdx9)

115 The Political Hat

Thank you for the Twitter linkage today - much appreciated!

Posted by: speedster1 at April 10, 2016 11:36 PM (vUcdz)


'rons and 'ettes who blog should share post of other 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: The Blogging Hat at April 10, 2016 11:42 PM (vBeA5)

116 Rack the pump.

Shit, keeping that.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 10, 2016 11:42 PM (hlMPp)

117 Morons and dumbassery?
Inconceivable!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 10, 2016 11:43 PM (08Znv)

118 I'm not sure this thread is wearing enough flair.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2016 11:43 PM (MQEz6)

119 ..., anyways, "office space" is a really good movie, one of my all time favs and i recommend it highly.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:43 PM (WTSFk)

120 I'd rather pump a rack!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2016 11:43 PM (3MK6t)

121 I love to see a UBI, not because Uncle Milty was a proponent (he didn't get everything right), but simply to provide irrigation for our amber waves of grain with the delicious tears of selected public sector unions.


Sadly, Moo is right. We'd just get a UBI added and nothing dismantled.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 10, 2016 11:43 PM (Wckf4)

122 @29 we should expect a post from Y-not explaining that this is all well and good.

Posted by: artemis at April 10, 2016 11:43 PM (AwPyG)

123
In those censored pics, there was a place advertising Prince Albert piercings. Strange people back then.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:42 PM (hVdx9)


What was weirder is that you could only get it in the can, right?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 10, 2016 11:44 PM (6DMur)

124 ... the whole movie has a great cast including mike judge, the writer/director who appears as the manager in the restaurant aniston works in. gary cole, who plays lumber, says it bombed when it initially came out, playing 5 weeks and he forgot about bit. a year and a half later he was in chicago walking to the theater he was acting in when someone yelled out "hey lumber!' and people began walking up to him quoting his lines (like someone shouting at meryl streep "het meryl, a dingo ate my baby). that's when he knew it was something...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp
****

I saw it in the theater and liked it, but it did not resonate with me the way it did with others.
Idiocracy on the other hand...

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:44 PM (hVdx9)

125 Nobody will notice the money skimmed from withholding ampersands

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:44 PM (OC+TJ)

126 Sadly, Moo is right. We'd just get a UBI added and nothing dismantled.

Posted by: Burn
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Thus, I favor a flat tax. I don't see the 16th being repealed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 10, 2016 11:45 PM (Z58Xa)

127 But he's not turned out to be any R n R hero for me. To each his own.
Posted by: Farmer

He cancelled his concert in North Carolina due to the law just past giving cities the right to keep males out of female restrooms.

In doing so, he called everyone fighting for the "right" to use transgendered rest rooms... Freedom Fighters.

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 11:45 PM (8AdYN)

128 Nobody will notice the money skimmed from withholding ampersands
Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:44 PM (OC+TJ)


You didn't funnel it through that law firm in Panama, did you?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 10, 2016 11:45 PM (6DMur)

129 tilikum, see it again maybe. i think it's the kind of flick that would hold up well. lots of well observed bits.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:46 PM (WTSFk)

130 In those censored pics, there was a place advertising Prince Albert piercings. Strange people back then.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:42 PM (hVdx9)

What was weirder is that you could only get it in the can, right?


Posted by: Kindltot
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Apparently. No wonder it declined.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:46 PM (hVdx9)

131 Thus, I favor a flat tax. I don't see the 16th being repealed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 10, 2016 11:45 PM (Z58Xa)


Repeal the 16th and replace it on a tax on foreigners living abroad.

Posted by: The Tax Hat at April 10, 2016 11:47 PM (vBeA5)

132 No, I don't trust offshore accounts with Aquaman on the transatlantic party lime

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:47 PM (OC+TJ)

133
127 But he's not turned out to be any R n R hero for me. To each his own.
Posted by: Farmer

He cancelled his concert in North Carolina due to the law just past giving cities the right to keep males out of female restrooms.

In doing so, he called everyone fighting for the "right" to use transgendered rest rooms... Freedom Fighters.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 11:45 PM (8AdYN)

He is now and has always been a fucking asshole.

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2016 11:47 PM (MQEz6)

134
Rest rooms are an easy fix.

One for men, one for women and one for all transgenders.

Now everyone has theirs.

Posted by: irongr4ampa at April 10, 2016 11:48 PM (P/8aq)

135 Line, not Harry Lime

Posted by: derit at April 10, 2016 11:48 PM (OC+TJ)

136 tilikum, see it again maybe. i think it's the kind of flick that would hold up well. lots of well observed bits.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp
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I'll have to give it another try. I have been a fan of Judge's work for some time.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:48 PM (hVdx9)

137 94 ... tps reports be damned...

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:30 PM (WTSFk)



When we were designing the internal audit system to support SARBOX, we realized that halting entire departments to test them throroughly was impractical. A better way was to test them, almost casually, very quickly in small ways. Naturally, we had to have a way to accumulate these small tests so that they were the equivalent of big ones. And, thus, was born the "Test Performance Sheet." Naturally, the status report for these was "The TPS Report".

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2016 11:49 PM (EzgxV)

138 I'll just go ahead and drop my obligatory "I never undertstood what the deal with Springsteen was" line in here.


Because seriously, what the fvck? The guy's voice always sounded like he was prolapsing.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 10, 2016 11:49 PM (Wckf4)

139 "withholding ampersands"... you people! lol

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:50 PM (WTSFk)

140 I enjoy Springsteen's music, yes.

But I don't take him seriously as a person anymore. I think of him as the Robert DeNiro of rock. He's great at playing that undereducated working-class role, but that's nowhere near who he really is.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 11:50 PM (ntObR)

141 He cancelled his concert in North Carolina due to the law just past giving cities the right to keep males out of female restrooms.

In doing so, he called everyone fighting for the "right" to use transgendered rest rooms... Freedom Fighters.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 11:45 PM (8AdYN)

He is now and has always been a fucking asshole.

Posted by: eman
****

He and his band were such a-holes when Amadou Diallo was shot. BS and his band mates love America like Ike loved Tina. F them up the a** with a flaming porcupine.

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 10, 2016 11:51 PM (hVdx9)

142 That article about the rectification of names really got the wheels turning, for me, and even though I usually disagree with the Confucian perspective and favor the Taoist, occasionally a blind dog finds a bone.

What it all boils down to is pretty simple, when reality and rhetoric no longer line up, things go out of balance and the shit hits the fan. We now live in a world with an Islamic State that's not islamic, migrant hijra being called a refugee crisis, wars that are called police actions or contingency operations, witch hunting and mob rule are called social justice, and safe spaces are anything but if you disagree with the zealous. It's a world where political correctness means ignoring reality and substituting ideology.

That can't last forever, and as I've often observed about things that can't last forever, it won't. I think this idea is an important one. How can you address a problem if you can't even describe it accurately? You can't, and that's why we're in the mess that we are in. People are going to get tired of the shenanigans eventually.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 10, 2016 11:51 PM (HalrA)

143
134
Rest rooms are an easy fix.

One for men, one for women and one for all transgenders.

Now everyone has theirs.
Posted by: irongr4ampa at April 10, 2016 11:48 PM (P/8aq)

You would have to define transgendes as those who are still transitioning. Could a man or woman use the transgender bathroom?

Posted by: eman at April 10, 2016 11:51 PM (MQEz6)

144 137: wow... it's a real thing. fantastic. mike judge apparently was in physics or something and it must have come from that experience.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:51 PM (WTSFk)

145 He cancelled his concert in North Carolina due to the law just past giving cities the right to keep males out of female restrooms.
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That's NOT what HB2 did. First of all, the Charlotte ordinance which touched this off would have COMPELLED all entities which have shower rooms, changing rooms, etc. to make them uni-sex. Second of all, HB2 only forbids local governments from COMPELLING entities to do so.

ANYONE who wishes to make their facilities uni-sex is perfectly free to do so. All of the butt-hurt posturing over HB2 is complete bullshit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 10, 2016 11:52 PM (Z58Xa)

146 BTW, the University of Toronto has just "temporarily" banned gender-neutral bathrooms in coed housing as the guys, duh, were photographing gals in the showers. See the sock link.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 10, 2016 11:52 PM (3MK6t)

147 143
134
Rest rooms are an easy fix.

One for men, one for women and one for all transgenders.

Now everyone has theirs.
Posted by: irongr4ampa at April 10, 2016 11:48 PM (P/8aq)

You would have to define transgendes as those who are still transitioning. Could a man or woman use the transgender bathroom?
Posted by: eman at April 10, 2016 11:51 PM (MQEz6

What if there are only 2 bathrooms in the joint?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 10, 2016 11:52 PM (voOPb)

148 He cancelled his concert in North Carolina due to the law just past giving cities the right to keep males out of female restrooms.
In doing so, he called everyone fighting for the "right" to use transgendered rest rooms... Freedom Fighters.
Posted by: AmeriDan at April 10, 2016 11:45 PM

And proved himself a bigger idiot than he has been before.

Of course the last I heard of this on the MSM was...NC was removing protections from the LGBTWTF community. We are truly into 1984.

Posted by: Farmer at April 10, 2016 11:53 PM (o/90i)

149 "Problem with the UBI though is the same as the problem with a national sales tax. UBI is supposed to replace welfare just like a sales tax is supposed to replace the income tax. What will happen inevitably though is neither will replace anything. We'll end up with UBI and welfare just like we'll end up with the sales tax and an income tax."

That's exactly what will happen. They'll put it in place and then you'll read stories in the media with headlines like "Poor mothers unable to get by on UBI" because they won't get as much as they used to. Or maybe they will, but you'll still see the headline. Anyway, they'll add a new welfare program. Think of the children.

Then they'll cast around for how to pay for it. "Hey, why are we giving rich people money? Let's have an income cutoff above which you don't get the stipend. We'll use the money to pay for our new welfare program."

Then they'll keep adding welfare programs and new restrictions to the UBI stipend. We'll be right back where we started, except there will be even *more* bureaucrats and a sizeable number of new people will be hooked on a government check.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 10, 2016 11:54 PM (+azJs)

150 ANYONE who wishes to make their facilities uni-sex is perfectly free to do so. All of the butt-hurt posturing over HB2 is complete bullshit.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Oh, yeah... one other thing... that Charlotte ordinance compelling the sharing of showers, bath rooms, etc.? It was formulated and championed by one 'Chad Severance'. I use quotes because he has used different names. But to the point, Seaverance is a CONVICTED child molester. Imagine that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 10, 2016 11:55 PM (Z58Xa)

151 144 137: wow... it's a real thing. fantastic. mike judge apparently was in physics or something and it must have come from that experience.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:51 PM (WTSFk)



No, we were familiar with the movie -- you cannot believe how boring audit meetings can be, and we figured we'd inject a little levity.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 10, 2016 11:56 PM (EzgxV)

152 @ 143


Certainly transgender men or women could use the transgender rest room--they're transgenders, right?

Posted by: irongr4ampa at April 10, 2016 11:56 PM (P/8aq)

153 I lost some tree branches to this spring snow. I'm used to seeing April snow along Lake Erie, but it's usually a "laugher": 5 or 6 inches, melting as it hits and all gone by morning. This was different. Biggest snowflakes I've ever seen here, 8 inches ties the 1957 record, and it stuck. Close enough to freezing point that you get one pass over it with the plow rig, and after that it's compressed ice that has to be pecked out with the blade and bucket. Some of the nastier stuff I've worked with.

So I work my way through the neighborhood, like I always do, taking care of my old buddies and the known shut-ins, around to Dad's house on the next road. Checked out a walnut limb that's down and can wait, looked hard at the maples and tulip trees. Have a drink with him, plow my way home, and I've had enough. Left the back slab in hopes the sun will come out, had a couple drinks and laid down. Fat, dumb, happy.

Just after sunset we get a text from the back-fence neighbor. "Part of your pine tree is down. I cut up the part that was on the fence." Waited until this morning, because at that point I just couldn't take it. I brought this white pine from Pennsylvania in 1959. First tree I ever planted. When it was maybe 3 feet tall, the collie nipped the top off, and it's had spread leaders ever since. Now it's 30" diameter and about 60 feet high. Twice I've paid guys to go up there and get rid of "Christmas trees" 10 or 15 feet off the centerline.

The branch that snapped is at least 8 inches in diameter, perfectly healthy, and of course crotched, so only a little fell to the ground and there's a couple of hundred pounds of wood straddling another branch. I'll bet there was 2 tons of snow weight on that tree. Hope everything holds until the snow melts. I don't like working above 20 feet. I really don't like it if you can't tell if the branch will hold you.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 10, 2016 11:57 PM (xq1UY)

154 G'evening Horde

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 10, 2016 11:58 PM (1D4Ef)

155
If there is only 2 restrooms, then you merely build an additional one with either the federal funding or float a small bond the taxpayers can retire.

Posted by: irongr4ampa at April 10, 2016 11:58 PM (P/8aq)

156 134
Rest rooms are an easy fix.

One for men, one for women and one for all transgenders.

Now everyone has theirs.
Posted by: irongr4ampa at April 10, 2016 11:48 PM (P/8aq)

What about those that want no labels placed on them?

*devils advocate...but it would happen

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 10, 2016 11:58 PM (hlMPp)

157 Does anyone else have a problem with adware when trying to read Ace.mu.nu on an iphone? I can't. I almost immediately get bumped to some ad. It's only this website, and it's driving me crazy.

Posted by: Chris not Rock at April 10, 2016 11:59 PM (WO0/g)

158 test

Posted by: irongrampa at April 10, 2016 11:59 PM (P/8aq)

159 151 lolol!

when words replace reality, as some are commenting on another subject, at least sometimes there's humor... fantastic.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at April 10, 2016 11:59 PM (WTSFk)

160
We passed.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 10, 2016 11:59 PM (P/8aq)

161 I really don't like it if you can't tell if the branch will hold you.
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See? Looney Tunes cartoons were educational!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 11, 2016 12:00 AM (3MK6t)

162 Is iron4ampa irongrampa? If not, that nic is too close.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:00 AM (hlMPp)

163 There are times I wish I had bought a .20 gauge instead of a 12ga. The again I inherited my dad's 12ga so...

Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at April 11, 2016 12:00 AM (hVdx9)

164 155
If there is only 2 restrooms, then you merely build an additional one with either the federal funding or float a small bond the taxpayers can retire.
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That's just silly the cost to add on one bathroom to an existing commercial building would cost close to $100k

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:02 AM (voOPb)

165 Bruce Stringbean and the E. Coli Street band have come out for the Poo Fighters.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:03 AM (FkBIv)

166 Drudge is trolling.

Man, that's sad.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:03 AM (o+SC1)

167 In one of Charles Murray's books, can't remember which one, he discussed the Negative Income Tax. Turns out the experiment has already been done, and it resulted in more sloth. Not exactly surprising.

The only appeal this really has is the chance to fire a whole bunch of bureaucrats. If one could believe that that would really happen...

Posted by: Splunge at April 11, 2016 12:03 AM (iMxBJ)

168 Allright off to flagellate myself.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 10, 2016 11:08 PM

LOL. What do you do if you come in second? ;^)

Just asking for future reference. I've never been first but I have been third or fourth.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:04 AM (w4NZ8)

169
It's me, I fatfingered it earlier and just noticed.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2016 12:04 AM (P/8aq)

170 What if you are a guy transitioning to a woman and you have your nice new rack, but still have Mr. Happy; what bathrooms can you use?

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:04 AM (MQEz6)

171 Rest rooms are an easy fix.
One for men, one for women and one for all transgenders.
Now everyone has theirs.
Posted by: irongr4ampa at April 10, 2016 11:48 PM

Our Museum is a small place. When the Park Dist got into trouble w/ the ADA act cause of some whiney beotch they put in 2 unisex restrooms, one expanded for the handicapped.

I understand larger places have problems w/ this but just such a BS issue to deal w/ what % of the population?


Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:04 AM (o/90i)

172 >> That's just silly the cost to add on one bathroom to an
>> existing commercial building would cost close to $100k

Unfortunate.

In a perfect world you'd put a toilet in the hallway with an any-gender sign next to it, with the customary male/female restrooms. Then you get a grant for the shower curtain to go around it.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:04 AM (o+SC1)

173 The redirects here on an iPhone have been going on for years. I either delete App Store so there's nowhere to redirect me to or read ace thru Adblock.

Posted by: NCKate at April 11, 2016 12:05 AM (B7rRP)

174 Just have one rest room that is labeled "Rest Room." Maximum occupancy ONE PERSON.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:05 AM (FkBIv)

175 Duh. Since the dawn of television, and from early childhood, people are spending more and more and more and more time in front of TV screens and monitors.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 10, 2016 10:54 PM (ntObR)


Fapping. People are doing it until they need glasses.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 12:06 AM (UsLZp)

176 Blano, glad you're back, were you able to kick your illness?
Posted by: Steck at April 10, 2016 11:28 PM (ht/89)

Hey Steck!

Just about over it, but now have a back problem. Have to go see a spine specialist. My first real health issue. Ugh.

Off to bed. I'll be in touch. Take care all.

Posted by: Blano at April 11, 2016 12:06 AM (NHQQx)

177 Restrooms are an easy fix. If you can pass, really pass, then go into the bathroom for the sex you're pretending to be.

If you wind up in jail, you need to have more work done.

Posted by: Splunge at April 11, 2016 12:06 AM (iMxBJ)

178
I fail to see how much sillier that is in comparison to neglecting the welfare of our transgendered folks.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2016 12:06 AM (P/8aq)

179 Bertram has the solution.

In fairness, I've seen unisex bathrooms in public places for years that work on that principle. Walmart also denotes their "disabled bathroom" that way.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:06 AM (ntObR)

180 Sunday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719239922423566336

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719240046113648640

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719240327035490307

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719240452659146753

Posted by: kbdabear at April 11, 2016 12:06 AM (363+Y)

181 174 Just have one rest room that is labeled "Rest Room." Maximum occupancy ONE PERSON.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:05 AM (FkBIv)

What about my split personality?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:07 AM (hlMPp)

182 >> w/ what % of the population?

A smaller total number than that of Christians whacked by ISIS, I'm sure.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:07 AM (o+SC1)

183 JEM just put up a porta-potty for the freaks who are 1% of the population

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:07 AM (voOPb)

184 What if transgenders who are going from man to woman want separate bathrooms from transgenders who are going from woman to man?

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:07 AM (MQEz6)

185 Hey AOP.

I read the stuff you wrote about me after I signed off last night. And I gotta tell ya... ;-)

No but seriously, you made some good points. And I *am* trying to move on with my life. To that end in fact, just today I finally started booking nights at various hotels for my California-to-Arkansas-and-back road trip I'm going to take this summer.

True, I need new things to think about. This'll be one of 'em.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:08 AM (ntObR)

186 >> What about my split personality?

As your next President I will issue an executive order requiring that Secret Service protection extend to the JEF only when using unisex restrooms on golf courses within 1/4 mile of his primary residence.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:08 AM (o+SC1)

187 More Sunday Night ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719240565024518144

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719241352287023104

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719241697578893316

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/719241832576716800

Posted by: kbdabear at April 11, 2016 12:08 AM (363+Y)

188 And Ace, Maet, everybody in charge here:

If you get a Cease-and-Desist letter regarding what I wrote about a certain person yesterday... I apologize in advance.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:09 AM (ntObR)

189 What about my split personality personalities?
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Fixed.

Posted by: sybil at April 11, 2016 12:09 AM (3MK6t)

190 Is anyone listening? The issue in NC wasn't just bathrooms, it was *all* facilities. So pervy guys get to use the girls showers.

HB2 was a no-brainer for any decent, thinking adult. You can stand with concerned parents, or with the child molester. I'm standing with the parents, Springsteen is standing with the child molester.

It's as simple as that.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 11, 2016 12:09 AM (J3phO)

191 @174 I guess that's the deal in Da Yerp, to judge by the movies. And the "telefon" is in there, too. Any chance this is all just more Trans-Europeanisme, another way for them to mock us for our daily shower baths and drinkable city water, plumbing that works and indoor dining tables?

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 11, 2016 12:09 AM (xq1UY)

192 At the store my mom works at, her boss had an ingenious solution to the bathroom thing. They made one restroom employees-only, and the other one is simply labeled "restroom".

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 11, 2016 12:10 AM (HalrA)

193 Use your own freaking rest room at home before going out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:10 AM (FkBIv)

194 "One for men, one for women and one for all transgenders. "

That won't work, because they don't want you to accommodate their needs. What they want is your validation of their "gender identity". If you force them to use the "trans" restroom that means you don't accept their chosen gender as the literal truth, and therefor you're a bad person in need of a good suing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 11, 2016 12:10 AM (+azJs)

195 >> JEM just put up a porta-potty for the freaks who are 1% of
>> the population

The point is that no one would go near it.

You'd have three people a week tinkling there, and they'd post selfies, and (hopefully) the rest of the world would marvel at their scumminess.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:10 AM (o+SC1)

196 @ 184

Unfortunately, those poor souls still get to urinate/defecate in their clothing.

Important work with Top Men concerning the subject is occurring even as we speak of this.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2016 12:10 AM (P/8aq)

197 Our restroom solution is simple. Everyone poops in the hallway.

Posted by: EPA at April 11, 2016 12:11 AM (iMxBJ)

198 Damn Mike you say pervy guys as if it were a bad thing

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:11 AM (voOPb)

199 There's nobody in the world whom Bruce Srpingstreen could refer to as "Freedom Fighters" but transgender people? People fighting for Democracy in China?. Persecuted Christian minorities in predominantly Islamic countries?. The Yazidi? (sp?) Dissidents in Cuba?

What a shallow idiot talking about a first world problem.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:12 AM (w4NZ8)

200 184 What if transgenders who are going from man to woman want separate bathrooms from transgenders who are going from woman to man?

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:07 AM (MQEz6)



Are we talking about halfway-out-houses, here?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 12:12 AM (EzgxV)

201 And just to be clear, whatever logical solution that is offered up...someone will find a problem with it. That's their sole reason for existing.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:12 AM (hlMPp)

202 What a shallow idiot talking about a first world problem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:12 AM (w4NZ


And I would direct you to his play list

Posted by: Kindltot at April 11, 2016 12:13 AM (6DMur)

203 Eggzelent!



I think the Maverick is a super value.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 10, 2016 11:38 PM (eHpnh)


Yup. $219. Add in two boxes of shells and a cleaning kit and the total was $300.

Congrats!



But it's a shotgun...no need to practice. If your enemy doesn't
shit themselves when you rack the pump then you just point in their
general direction and blast them about 40 feet.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 10, 2016 11:42 PM (hlMPp)


And if they're closer than forty feet? Always practice with the weapons you plan to use to defend yourself.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:13 AM (fC9RO)

204 199 There's nobody in the world whom Bruce Srpingstreen could refer to as "Freedom Fighters" but transgender people? People fighting for Democracy in China?. Persecuted Christian minorities in predominantly Islamic countries?. The Yazidi? (sp?) Dissidents in Cuba?

What a shallow idiot talking about a first world problem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:12 AM (w4NZ


Leftism really is a mental disorder. I used to think that was hyperbole.

Posted by: Splunge at April 11, 2016 12:13 AM (iMxBJ)

205 It's not even the transgender people themselves apparently. It's people fighting for them to use whatever restroom they want.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:13 AM (w4NZ8)

206 I enjoy Springsteen's music, yes.

Springsteen (like most Eagles) is better than Bryan Adams. Slightly. Say, about as good as Sting from "Synchronity" on... the shitty, douchebaggy part of "Synchronicity", like "Walking In Their Footsteps".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2016 12:13 AM (6FqZa)

207 Damn Mike you say pervy guys as if it were a bad thing

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Really. It's no big deal.

Posted by: Aqualung at April 11, 2016 12:13 AM (J3phO)

208 That won't work, because they don't want you to
accommodate their needs. What they want is your validation of their
"gender identity". If you force them to use the "trans" restroom that
means you don't accept their chosen gender as the literal truth, and
therefor you're a bad person in need of a good suing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 11, 2016 12:10 AM (+azJs)


Pretty much. The bathrooms are just a battle in a larger war of the tail trying to wag the dog. What they really want is society to not just legitimize, but praise their ridiculous cult ideology and questionable life choices. If you're not clapping like a trained seal, they hate you.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 11, 2016 12:13 AM (HalrA)

209 >> Our restroom solution is simple. Everyone poops in the hallway.

There's some logic to that.

All government buildings must provide a wall, and ONLY a wall.

There can be no restrooms, no private stalls, nothing else. A wall with a little trench at the bottom and a hose to wash it down.

If you don't like it, take whatever pension you've accrued and walk. We'll assign someone to the parking lot to ensure you leave.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:14 AM (o+SC1)

210 193 Use your own freaking rest room at home before going out.
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There goes my coffee drinking

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:14 AM (voOPb)

211 55 This is hilarious. They changed the boat in Fear the walking Dead and even went back in the recap and changed it there, too. I know this because I watched the last eipsode of S1 earlier today.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 10, 2016 11:15 PM (iQIUe)

I didn't catch that. In fact, I didn't even know they started the new season today until I saw mentions of it on social media.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 11, 2016 12:14 AM (s87AC)

212 96 TB

As a Miami (OH) alum, it about killed me when they changed from the Redskins to the Redhawks.

And similar to the Sioux, the Miami tribe *loved* the Redskins moniker.

Posted by: speedster1 at April 11, 2016 12:14 AM (vUcdz)

213 bth, ah geez. I just Amazon ordered the special-edition CD of "Reckless" by Bryan Adams. :-)

In fairness, to this day I don't think I've ever heard Adams speak out about a single political issue. Maybe in his Canadian homeland he's a loudmouth but here...

And I love the Police, even though they sound more and more to me like they sprung whole from a Kubrick film lately.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:15 AM (ntObR)

214 As others have pointed out, UBI is nice in theory but I too have doubts about the ability of politicians to hold firm when sob stories start popping up about families that blew all their money on booz and can't afford to feed their kids.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:15 AM (fC9RO)

215 One of our local Progs has lobbied against our ordinance forbidding public urination.

I'm marginally sympathetic, having once taken a leak on Philadelphia City Hall. Beer may have been involved. At least I hid behind some bushes.

Posted by: Aqualung at April 11, 2016 12:17 AM (J3phO)

216 I seem to recall that various kinds of drug use led to a practical unisexuality of "rest" rooms in college towns and the Fashionable Cities. Can't help but think that that's the scene the proponents are looking for.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 11, 2016 12:17 AM (xq1UY)

217
I guess that I must admit defeat with the restroom problem. Was attempting to channel my inner SJW but it ran aground and my GAS has been irreparably broken.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2016 12:17 AM (P/8aq)

218 A friend lives in Spain and says that the young men there are quite willing to live crammed four or five to an apartment if it means they can get by on the dole.

UBI might have unintended consequences of encouraging more young men and women to live cheaply off their dole. Idyll hands and all that...

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (fC9RO)

219 The UBI will never be enough. "Who can feed a family of X on XYZ Euros?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (FkBIv)

220 Off to bed. I'll be in touch. Take care all.
Posted by: Blano at April 11, 2016 12:06 AM

Be well. There's plenty here who have gone thru back issues. IMO don't just rely on one docs opinion no matter how much you trust him.

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (o/90i)

221 214
As others have pointed out, UBI is nice in theory but I too have doubts
about the ability of politicians to hold firm when sob stories start
popping up about families that blew all their money on booz and can't
afford to feed their kids.


Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:15 AM (fC9RO)


You can't legislate common sense. You can't make people take care of themselves and make good choices. Just look at our current system. People sell their food stamp cards for 1/2 of the dollar amount on them, then use that money to buy drugs. The abuse is rampant.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (HalrA)

222 >> Pretty much. The bathrooms are just a battle in a larger war

We simply need to ban pants. Ban skirts. Ban the covering of primary sexual organs entirely. Then crowdsource restroom access.

"Hey ladyboy, what the F do you think you're doing, you're over THERE."

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (o+SC1)

223 Oops. Off with perv sock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (J3phO)

224 I love the second Police album. I respect the first one for taking risks (half of which risks did actually pay off... "Can't Stand Losing You"... yikes).

Speaking of that second Police album, bring on the night -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz1mEMiNPHQ

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2016 12:19 AM (6FqZa)

225 You can't legislate common sense. You can't make
people take care of themselves and make good choices. Just look at our
current system. People sell their food stamp cards for 1/2 of the dollar
amount on them, then use that money to buy drugs. The abuse is rampant.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (HalrA)


No, but the results are still something that society has to deal with. Mom and dad blow their money on booze, and the kids starve. They aren't just going to curl up and die. So you're either stuck with criminal activity, begging, or throwing the kids into the nightmare of the foster care system.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:20 AM (fC9RO)

226 I've had ideas for doing a funny video for "Can't Stand Losing You" for years. Hope to get it done sometime within the next couple years.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:20 AM (ntObR)

227 I think men should be able to enter a womens' rest room at any time.

Carlos Danger agrees with me.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at April 11, 2016 12:20 AM (iMxBJ)

228 >> I love the second Police album.

I never gave a flaming shit about the Police, but Klark Kent was great.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:20 AM (o+SC1)

229 osted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (o+SC1)

Perhaps the government can find some way to ban defecation and urination completely.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:20 AM (w4NZ8)

230 "You'll be sorry when I'm dead! And all this guilt will be on your head!!"

Uh no she won't, sorry Sting, she'll have a party instead.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:21 AM (ntObR)

231 Thanks for spoiling the beans IG.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:21 AM (voOPb)

232 What about my split personality?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:07 AM

We sincerely hope you didn't reveal that in the email you sent the cute coworker that might get you fired but prolly won't since she responded kindly.

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:21 AM (o/90i)

233 speedster, I feel for you. What's worse is that name change was shoved upon you by Capital City, who gets to have a hockey team named Bluejackets. And they say it's "a salute to Ohio's Civil War heritage." That's a crock. Everybody in the state knows who Bluejacket was, and what tribe he belonged to. That's different.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 11, 2016 12:22 AM (xq1UY)

234 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:20 AM (w4NZ

**snort**

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:22 AM (voOPb)

235 230 "You'll be sorry when I'm dead! And all this guilt will be on your head!!"

Uh no she won't, sorry Sting, she'll have a party instead.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:21 AM (ntObR)

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Heh.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:23 AM (rlfds)

236 Solution to the restroom issue: Designate restroom use by biological sex rather than "gender".

Legally they are not the same thing anymore, and you can't be said to discriminate against "gender" when that isn't even taken into account.

Posted by: The Hat-gendered Hat or something... at April 11, 2016 12:23 AM (vBeA5)

237 The Quotes of the Day are outstanding.

Okay, the public bathroom situation really is causing me stress. I saw a very tall big man walk straight into a woman's restroom at the grocery store. I made a scene and forced the management to get him out, but this is a real problem mostly for women and little girls. I don' t think women are invading men's public restrooms, are they?

Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:23 AM (2x3L+)

238 We sincerely hope you didn't reveal that in the email you sent the cute coworker that might get you fired but prolly won't since she responded kindly.

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:21 AM (o/90i)

LOL. Tomorrow should be fun/awkward.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:24 AM (hlMPp)

239 I thought all those dumb hicks in NC just pissed out back in the alley.

Posted by: Feces Flinging Monkey at April 11, 2016 12:24 AM (8aOqE)

240 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMMWJRDbUk4

Police NEVER EVER did anything as good as Copeland's solo stuff.

Never as good as Sting's daughter's stuff, for that matter.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:24 AM (o+SC1)

241
Haven't noticed anybody making any great effort to help the gender confused work through their mental/emotional issues, just celebrating them and exacerbating the problem.

Wonder why is that?

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2016 12:25 AM (P/8aq)

242 I was just reading: Dianne Feinswine and some damn Republican have introduced a draft bill for discussion that would require all encryption products to have a backdoor for gubmit.

If you make or distribute such a product, you have to provide assistance to the govt to get in if it desires.

Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at April 11, 2016 12:25 AM (DW+jj)

243 225 You can't legislate common sense. You can't make
people take care of themselves and make good choices. Just look at our
current system. People sell their food stamp cards for 1/2 of the dollar
amount on them, then use that money to buy drugs. The abuse is rampant.


Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at April 11, 2016 12:18 AM (HalrA)


No, but the results are still something that society has to deal with. Mom and dad blow their money on booze, and the kids starve. They aren't just going to curl up and die. So you're either stuck with criminal activity, begging, or throwing the kids into the nightmare of the foster care system.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:20 AM (fC9RO)

Maybe, but not necessarily through the government.

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:25 AM (MQEz6)

244 >>>girls. I don' t think women are invading men's public restrooms, are they?

If they are they would probably kick my ass

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:25 AM (voOPb)

245 What if you are a guy transitioning to a woman and you have your nice new rack, but still have Mr. Happy; what bathrooms can you use?

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:04 AM (MQEz6)


Go to an Interstate rest stop, and use the pet area. And bag it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 12:26 AM (UsLZp)

246 >> I don' t think women are invading men's public restrooms,
>> are they?

The end result is that where possible women and girls will simply stop doing their business outside the home. Think of it as a panty-niqab.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:26 AM (o+SC1)

247 'sup?

Posted by: jake at April 11, 2016 12:26 AM (VtmZM)

248 My drawing class had a girl who went by "Aiden" and used the men's restroom. She also brought her assistance dog in to class.

These people have issues and enabling them won't help them of society.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:26 AM (fC9RO)

249
Go to an Interstate rest stop, and use the pet area. And bag it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Or bottle it.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:27 AM (FkBIv)

250 Could a man or woman use the transgender bathroom?
Posted by: eman

Of course not, you RACIST!!! That would make transgendered folk uneasy and they would feel threatened!!!

Posted by: SJW (not wantint to hurt trans feelings) at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (cq3QL)

251 233 SD

Thanks, and Bingo.

Me and the Missus are a Miami Merger, and both of us were pretty po'd about it. Stopped contributing to the alum fundraising calls for quite a while.

Posted by: speedster1 at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (vUcdz)

252 Maybe, but not necessarily through the government.

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:25 AM (MQEz6)


The Catholic Church ain't gonna be arresting anyone or forcibly taking kids from their homes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (fC9RO)

253 I for one don't give a shit about the gender-confused or helping them work through their issues.

I have enough of my own shit to deal with.

But I sure as fuck not going to celebrate their lunacy.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (rlfds)

254 237 I don' t think women are invading men's public restrooms, are they?
Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:23 AM (2x3L+)


Some bars, some sporting events. They are made welcome in both cases.

Posted by: Splunge at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (iMxBJ)

255
My drawing class had a girl who went by "Aiden" and used the men's restroom. She also brought her assistance dog in to class.
These people have issues and enabling them won't help them of society.
Posted by: Colorado Alex


What did the dog assist her in doing?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (FkBIv)

256 >> Or bottle it.

We already do that.

Mind what flies out the driver's window on the freeway, eh?

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (o+SC1)

257 >>>> The end result is that where possible women and girls will simply stop doing their business outside the home. Think of it as a panty-niqab.
Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:26 AM (o+SC1)
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Yeah, that's basically what I'm doing now. This is terrible.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (2x3L+)

258 True, I need new things to think about. This'll be one of 'em.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:08 AM (ntObR)


I'm glad you took it the right way. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (UsLZp)

259 LOL. Tomorrow should be fun/awkward.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:24 AM

Best of luck. Just keep the rest of the convo off work lines.

You sound like you are smitten by a shy gal. And you have made inroads.
Keep the rest of it out of work. GL

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (o/90i)

260 Some bars, some sporting events. They are made welcome in both cases.
Posted by: Splunge at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (iMxBJ)

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This is true.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (rlfds)

261
252 Maybe, but not necessarily through the government.

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:25 AM (MQEz6)


The Catholic Church ain't gonna be arresting anyone or forcibly taking kids from their homes.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (fC9RO)

not yet

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (MQEz6)

262 fuukin tranies, they are .0001% and want bathroom access.

Why? Their suicide rate is off the charts.

fookin tranies

trannies can piss outside like the homeless

Posted by: jake at April 11, 2016 12:30 AM (VtmZM)

263 I don' t think women are invading men's public restrooms, are they?
Posted by: L, Elle
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That's not what any of this is about. In the final analysis it is about totalitarian control.

I reiterate, any business or government agency in NC is free to do whatever it wishes. The only caveat is that no entity can be *compelled* to accommodate men in the girls showers.

What the Progs seek is *control* over society. Incidentally, there doesn't seem to be any rush on the part of the whiners to *themselves* establish uni-sex facilities.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 11, 2016 12:30 AM (J3phO)

264
What did the dog assist her in doing?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (FkBIv)


I don't remember. It wasn't epilepsy, but it was something like that where it was there if she had an episode.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:31 AM (fC9RO)

265
254 237 I don' t think women are invading men's public restrooms, are they?
Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:23 AM (2x3L+)

Some bars, some sporting events. They are made welcome in both cases.
Posted by: Splunge at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM (iMxBJ)

Yeah, sometimes the lines are too long and folks need to pee.

Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:32 AM (MQEz6)

266 But I sure as fuck not going to celebrate their lunacy.
Posted by: SMFH
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So, I'm guessing that embracing and nurturing said lunacy is out too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 11, 2016 12:33 AM (J3phO)

267 I for one don't give a shit about the gender-confused or helping them work through their issues.
Posted by SMFH

But, but, transgenders have a right to their privacy!!!

Oh, wait, nevermind.

Posted by: SJW (not wanting to hurt trans feelings) at April 11, 2016 12:33 AM (cq3QL)

268 I'm starting to hate the trannies now. Except they're so obviously head cases. Like bathroom access is going to fix all their mental troubles and make them calm down and normal suddenly.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:33 AM (2x3L+)

269 262 fuukin tranies, they are .0001% and want bathroom access.

Why? Their suicide rate is off the charts.

---

"Defense Secretary Ashton Carter announced last July that the Pentagon intended to allow transgender people to serve openly in the military within six months, calling the decades-long ban "outdated" and an impediment to attracting and retaining top talent.

More than eight months later, a new policy has yet to be unveiled. It is imperative that Mr. Carter complete this process in a matter of weeks so transgender troops can start serving openly while he is in office."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/opinion/the-militarys-transgender-policy-stalled.html?_r=0

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:34 AM (rlfds)

270 >> not yet

that was 400 years ago.

While I am a fully paid-up believer in Will Durant's maxim 'civilizations are born Stoic and die Epicurian', and that there's nothing much more Epicurean than legislating that someone born XY is in fact a female any time he says he is, I'm not convinced the Catholic church is going to correct the slide we're in.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:34 AM (o+SC1)

271 Haven't noticed anybody making any great effort to help the gender confused work through their mental/emotional issues, just celebrating them and exacerbating the problem.
Wonder why is that?
Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2016 12:25 AM

Our society is increasingly f'up by leftists?

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:34 AM (o/90i)

272
Time for the old folk. Got grass seed to put down before the rain tomorrow.


Remember, y'all, we are Americans, so the head is held HIGH--most especially to honor our beloved country.

Goodnite, good people. Stay safe.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 11, 2016 12:35 AM (P/8aq)

273 So, I'm guessing that embracing and nurturing said lunacy is out too.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 11, 2016 12:33 AM (J3phO)

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Yeah, pretty much.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:35 AM (rlfds)

274 At least the trannys heads are being held high.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:36 AM (FkBIv)

275 That tranny access law is stoopid.

What will happin is a whole lot of dads in the womens pisser guarding their daughters.

Posted by: jake at April 11, 2016 12:36 AM (VtmZM)

276 What if you are a guy transitioning to a woman and you have your nice new rack, but still have Mr. Happy; what bathrooms can you use?
Posted by: eman at April 11, 2016 12:04 AM (MQEz6)

Go to an Interstate rest stop, and use the pet area. And bag it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 12:26 AM

LMAO crying tears here AOP.

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:38 AM (o/90i)

277 274 At least the trannys heads are being held high.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:36 AM (FkBIv)

---

More like between their buttcheeks.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:38 AM (rlfds)

278 http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/opinion/the-militarys-transgender-policy-stalled.html?_r=0



Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:34 AM (rlfds)


I've been debating going back in as a reservist. Shit like this makes me want to stay as far away as possible.

People are going to die due to these crackpot ideas.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:38 AM (fC9RO)

279 259 LOL. Tomorrow should be fun/awkward.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:24 AM

Best of luck. Just keep the rest of the convo off work lines.

You sound like you are smitten by a shy gal. And you have made inroads.
Keep the rest of it out of work. GL
Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:29 AM (o/90i)

Wow. It I'm not the shy person in this I'd be surprised. Tomorrow will be telling. Thanks for the GL.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:38 AM (hlMPp)

280 Seriously, if you want to be depressed about the current state of affairs, go read Will Durant's 'The History of Civilization'. It'll only take you a year. When he's going over arts and literature you can skip a few words if you like. And a lot of the early bits have been slathered around by subsequent discoveries.

But read the whole fourteen or whatever volumes, you will never look at history or expect mankind's future to be purely 'progress' again.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:39 AM (o+SC1)

281 People are going to die due to these crackpot ideas.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 11, 2016 12:38 AM (fC9RO)

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Going to??

Checked out the RoE lately?

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:40 AM (rlfds)

282 sock off

Posted by: AmeriDan at April 11, 2016 12:40 AM (cq3QL)

283 JEM, humanity seems to have progressed the most whenever it was... uncomfortable.

Today's society is absurdly comfortable. IMHO that's both a blessing and a curse.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:40 AM (ntObR)

284 any ideas on how the young moslem migrants to europe on welfare are going to pay the pensions for the retirement age natives?



??

Posted by: jake at April 11, 2016 12:42 AM (VtmZM)

285 Countdown to Giant Face Tattoo and Chaps Without Pants equal employment opportunity in 3... 2... 1...

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 12:42 AM (wB8Tg)

286 I for one don't give a shit about the gender-confused or helping them work through their issues.
I have enough of my own shit to deal with.
But I sure as fuck not going to celebrate their lunacy.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:28 AM

You often make me smile SMFH and now I'm in tears. TY

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:43 AM (o/90i)

287
JEM, humanity seems to have progressed the most whenever it was... uncomfortable.

Today's society is absurdly comfortable. IMHO that's both a blessing and a curse.
Posted by: qdpsteve


Q: Are we not men?
A: We are Eloi

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:43 AM (FkBIv)

288 []

Posted by: But so what at April 11, 2016 12:43 AM (7wyDO)

289 >>Today's society is absurdly comfortable. IMHO that's both a
>> blessing and a curse

We hope, and trim our sails toward hoping, that it holds out long enough for our kids.

We fear, and often by our cowardice ensure, that it does not.

Human weakness.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:44 AM (o+SC1)

290 a-dios!

Posted by: jake at April 11, 2016 12:44 AM (VtmZM)

291 any ideas on how the young moslem migrants to europe on welfare are going to pay the pensions for the retirement age natives?



??

Posted by: jake at April 11, 2016 12:42 AM (VtmZM)


I'm guessing they don't plan on doing so. Which will be awkward.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 12:44 AM (UsLZp)

292 >> []

Trolls woke up in Bratislava.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:45 AM (o+SC1)

293 >>>> any ideas on how the young moslem migrants to europe on welfare are going to pay the pensions for the retirement age natives?
??Posted by: jake at April 11, 2016 12:42 AM
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They won't have to. All the old Europeans will be dead or murdered by them, by then.

Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:45 AM (2x3L+)

294 jake/AOP, every European they behead means extra $$$avings!!! ;-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:45 AM (ntObR)

295 Oh, dear. Is someone starting the [] wars again? I'm out.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:45 AM (w4NZ8)

296 SMFH pretty much said what I thought

You go 'ette

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:45 AM (voOPb)

297 >> I'm guessing they don't plan on doing so. Which will be
>>awkward.

Why doesn't someone ask them?

That is, if they don't mind getting laughed at and perhaps spit upon.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:46 AM (o+SC1)

298 Oh, dear. Is someone starting the [] wars again? I'm out.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 11, 2016 12:45 AM (w4NZ


Wait, they stopped? When?!?!

I missed the fragile cease-fire.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 12:47 AM (wB8Tg)

299 Nite Jake

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:47 AM (voOPb)

300 G'night horde. Have a blessed Monday.

Just gonna tell HR the I identify as someone who doesn't send messages to coworkers.

FYNQ.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:47 AM (hlMPp)

301 That I

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 11, 2016 12:47 AM (hlMPp)

302 jake/AOP, every European they behead means extra $$$avings!!! ;-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:45 AM (ntObR)


It's Germany's new Head Start program. Head on? Head off! And think of the money to be saved by making the streetcars shorter!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 12:47 AM (UsLZp)

303 I've depressed myself enough. Good night. Daughter goes back to school tomorrow which means, hopefully, enough time to finish taxes.

Posted by: JEM at April 11, 2016 12:48 AM (o+SC1)

304 How did I miss you, MusHum, in all this blather.
Hi!

Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:48 AM (2x3L+)

305 Hey Elle

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:48 AM (voOPb)

306 Hi! Hi!
How was today for you?
My day turned around

Posted by: L, Elle at April 11, 2016 12:50 AM (2x3L+)

307 AOP, more like a "Head End" program. ;-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:50 AM (ntObR)

308 More than eight months later, a new policy has yet to be unveiled. It is imperative that Mr. Carter complete this process in a matter of weeks so transgender troops can start serving openly while he is in office."
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/opinion/the-militarys-transgender-policy-stalled.html?_r=0
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 11, 2016 12:34 AM

How about Mr. Carter worry more about ISIS? If they aren't a threat to us Americans maybe they are a threat to his transgengered troops?

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 12:50 AM (o/90i)

309
It's Germany's new Head Start program. Head on? Head off!

The Clapper.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:51 AM (FkBIv)

310 It's been a good day Elle, glad yours turned around

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:52 AM (voOPb)

311 BTW everybody, I actually found some Bob's Roquefort dressing at Ralphs today.

I thought the stuff was taken off the market a few years ago for some dumb EPA reason. Glad it's still out there, at least for now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:52 AM (ntObR)

312 >>worry more about ISIS? If they aren't a threat to us Americans maybe they are a threat to his transgengered troops?
-----
Just remember more Americans are killed in bathtubs than by Isis

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:54 AM (voOPb)

313 MH, good point. There's a bathtub I know of that's been stalking me for weeks...

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:55 AM (ntObR)

314 Yeah, trannies
I feel a little sorry for them, because they clearly aren't well on some level

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 12:55 AM (uZNvH)

315 We need more bathtub regulation.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:55 AM (FkBIv)

316 mmm, roquefort
haven't had that in a while

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 12:56 AM (uZNvH)

317 chemjeff, hope it's good with wings. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 12:57 AM (ntObR)

318 315 We need more bathtub regulation.
-----
Oh great 1.6 gallon flush now shower/bath

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 11, 2016 12:59 AM (voOPb)

319 Oh great 1.6 gallon flush now shower/bath

"Get ready for your new super water-efficient single drip-flow shower head!!"

Posted by: Mr Gubmint Knows Better Fer Y'all at April 11, 2016 01:00 AM (ntObR)

320 >>Just have one rest room that is labeled "Rest Room." Maximum occupancy ONE PERSON.

.Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 12:05 AM (FkBIv)
<<<

It's happening. Recently I've been in two different Kroger Super Stores, really yuge, and although there are still men's and women's stalls the men's has one urinal and one stall.
...They're getting ready.


Posted by: Ralph at April 11, 2016 01:00 AM (wH8rX)

321 Beating Dr Darwin at his own game -
http://tinyurl.com/hrlyhhp

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 11, 2016 01:00 AM (6FqZa)

322 >>>It's Germany's new Head Start program. Head on? Head off! And think of the money to be saved by making the streetcars shorter!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 12:47 AM (UsLZp)

NOT.Funny. Round-eye.......

Posted by: Mr. Miyagi at April 11, 2016 01:00 AM (mKmMD)

323 qdpsteve hmm I don't know, as I recall roquefort is similar to bleu cheese, so I imagine so

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 01:00 AM (uZNvH)

324 Roquefort is blue cheese with an attitude. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 01:01 AM (ntObR)

325 Be well you Morons I should go to bed. Long day, we had 117 at our Hist Soc meeting, prolly a record.

Thanks for all you contribute to our lives.

T, J, Bailey, Kahlua & Butterscotch

....I may be back to haunt you later tonight

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 01:03 AM (o/90i)

326 qdpsteve hmm I don't know, as I recall roquefort is similar to bleu cheese, so I imagine so

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 01:00 AM (uZNvH)


Well we don't have any. Perchance you'd fancy some nice Venezuelan beaver cheese?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 01:03 AM (UsLZp)

327 Just remember more Americans are killed in bathtubs than by Isis

The moral is: never take a bath.

Posted by: Posted by: But so what at April 11, 2016 12:43 AM (7wyDO) at April 11, 2016 01:05 AM (6FqZa)

328 I got me some of that beaver cheese once AOP. Took a shit ton of jock itch spray to get rid of it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 01:05 AM (ntObR)

329 (NEVER buy your skivvies at the swap meet...)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 01:06 AM (ntObR)

330 Bob's Bleu Cheese with Cracked Black Pepper

Fresh spinach, butter lettuce, bacon, Tillamook medium cheddar (coarse shreds), kidney beans, shredded broccoli, shredded beets if you're not allergic (yes I'm allergic to everything shut up).

Croutons to taste (Texas Toast actually makes a decent gluten-free crouton that's not seven million dollars).

Make your own croutons if you're feisty.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 01:08 AM (wB8Tg)

331 Howdy Horde,

Wish me luck. Tomorrow I need to find the motivation to, you know, actually do my taxes.

It didn't even begin to happen today.

Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:08 AM (RXfvh)

332 Merovign, mmmmmm

For the first time in my life I'm hungry for salad. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 01:08 AM (ntObR)

333 But I sure as fuck not going to celebrate their lunacy.

Posted by: SMFH


Affirmation will become manditory. You will be punished.

Dissent is doubleplusungood.

Posted by: SOC JUS at April 11, 2016 01:09 AM (vBeA5)

334
Affirmation will become manditory. You will be punished.

Don't be the first one to stop applauding.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 11, 2016 01:12 AM (FkBIv)

335 Why, THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 11, 2016 01:13 AM (sl+zA)

336 Someone upthread said "Have a Blessed Monday"

That'd be a day off work, in my book. Playing hooky, at the very least!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 11, 2016 01:14 AM (McRlu)

337 Howdy Horde,
Wish me luck. Tomorrow I need to find the motivation to, you know, actually do my taxes.
It didn't even begin to happen today.
Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:08 AM

Right there w/ ya. I should get something back but I just hate this crap.

Tomorrow Bud, we will get this started and done soon. No need to pay anyone, I've always done them since I was taught in the 70s in HS.

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 01:17 AM (o/90i)

338 Gotta say goodnight all, happy new week. Thanks for the great chat. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 11, 2016 01:23 AM (ntObR)

339 *reaches through the USB port to clink glasses w/ farmer*


I've always done my own too. When I was freelancing in New England, lo these many years ago now, I reliably had to file in at least four states, which meant that the fees for having someone else file rapidly ate up whatever returns I could otherwise finagle.

So, tomorrow it is! Or maybe the next day, or the next...

Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:23 AM (RXfvh)

340 Night, qdpsteve.

Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:24 AM (RXfvh)

341 yeah I gotta do my taxes too.

I thought about my taxes today, I actually managed to organize a pile of papers, but still no taxes done

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 01:24 AM (uZNvH)

342 good night qdpsteve

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 01:25 AM (uZNvH)

343 Yesterday I cleared a table and laid the 1099's out, sort of (the envelopes are still sealed). I also know exactly where my 2015 receipts are stashed. Surely that counts for something?

Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:29 AM (RXfvh)

344 Be well,
tomorrow taxes menace,
but we shall attack.

Thanks for being here ya'll.

Off to strange dreams...
T

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 01:32 AM (o/90i)

345 337 Howdy Horde,
Wish me luck. Tomorrow I need to find the motivation to, you know, actually do my taxes.
It didn't even begin to happen today.
Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:08 AM

Right there w/ ya. I should get something back but I just hate this crap.

Tomorrow Bud, we will get this started and done soon. No need to pay anyone, I've always done them since I was taught in the 70s in HS.

Posted by: Farmer at April 11, 2016 01:17 AM (o/90i)



Schwab revised the fiancee's 1099 package on April first!!!! I thought it was an April Fool's Day joke, at first. How the fuck are we supposed to prepare returns if the numbers keep changing?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 01:33 AM (EzgxV)

346 Well, I have to sack out, too. Getting hard to keep my eyes propped open. Night, everyone.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 11, 2016 01:37 AM (UsLZp)

347 I got two revised tax-related forms in the last two weeks.

Good thing I don't do my taxes early. Did them today.

Will probably get a revised 1099RQTGK/43-B tomorrow.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 01:41 AM (wB8Tg)

348 Night, all.

Cooth, I'm just hoping that I have all of the forms by now. I don't even bother to start before March, because the forms are never here until then anyway, and by then concert season is usually going insane. I am averaging a gig a night from March 1st through May 8th this year, which makes planning for this crap rather annoying. And this is a typical year.

Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:43 AM (RXfvh)

349 347 Merovign

In keeping with the unofficial theme of this ONT, those would be the TPS reports, no?

Posted by: speedster1 at April 11, 2016 01:44 AM (vUcdz)

350 I used to work at a place that actually had "TPS Audit Reports." Pretty much people quoted from that movie *every* *day*.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 01:45 AM (wB8Tg)

351 Aaand I'm out too. Going to read a bit more Tolkien, from a real book, before bed.

But I had to get my grey box fix first. You are all splendid people.

Posted by: Piercello at April 11, 2016 01:46 AM (RXfvh)

352 You are all splendid people

hey! you take that back!

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 01:47 AM (uZNvH)

353 I used to be splendid, now I'm whatever splendid is after it deorbits.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 01:48 AM (wB8Tg)

354 now I'm whatever splendid is after it deorbits.

splenda?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 01:50 AM (uZNvH)

355 I would be Splenda, but I'm not left-handed.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 01:52 AM (wB8Tg)

356 355 I would be Splenda, but I'm not left-handed.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 01:52 AM (wB8Tg)



Nothing sinister about you?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 01:55 AM (EzgxV)

357 354 now I'm whatever splendid is after it deorbits.

splenda?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 01:50 AM (uZNvH)



Splatda?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 01:56 AM (EzgxV)

358 Nothing sinister about you?
Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 01:55 AM (EzgxV)


I'm just a big old Dexter.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 01:57 AM (wB8Tg)

359 I'm left handed. Do some things better right handed. Does that makes me trans handed.

Posted by: tbodie at April 11, 2016 01:58 AM (hQt/L)

360 Nah, you're just Dexterity-Curious.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 02:02 AM (wB8Tg)

361 Does that makes me trans handed.

dunno.

Do you make your left hand wear low neck sweaters and do you refer to your right hand as Loretta?

Posted by: Adriane the Back Home Critic ... at April 11, 2016 02:02 AM (AoK0a)

362 Ehh, now that I think about it, AmbiCurious works better in that joke.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 02:04 AM (wB8Tg)

363 well, good night
mondays are hard enough as it is, ugh
someday I would like to feel better

Posted by: chemjeff at April 11, 2016 02:11 AM (uZNvH)

364 I wish that for both of us, Chemjeff.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 02:12 AM (wB8Tg)

365 It's distance focusing for sure.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 11, 2016 02:17 AM (CBZ81)

366 Tammy!!! How the hell are you?

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 02:21 AM (EzgxV)

367 TTaammmmyy!!!!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 11, 2016 02:22 AM (wB8Tg)

368
What does the Walking Dead Franchise have against American actors? 1/3 to 1/2 of crew are aliens:

Ruben Blades - Panama
Curt Curtz - NZ
Junky Kid - Brit
Daughter - Aussie
Dead RN - Puerto Rican
2nd Daughter - Scandi
Dead Mother - Mexican
Dead Doc - Brit/Canadan
some scottish guy - some scottish guy

rick - brit
morgan - brit
michonne- something
maggie - brit
governor - brit
wolf - aussie
and many many more...



Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 11, 2016 02:26 AM (iQIUe)

369 I'm flickering -- I need to get up reasonably early tomorrow and get into "the zone" regarding the fiancee's taxes.....she's got one deal where she owned stock in Medtronic Inc. and they did one of those "tax inversions" that have been mentioned by Presidential candidates where they acquire a smaller foreign firm but the paperwork all reads that the foreign firm is acquiring them -- except that they end up owning more of the combination.....but, now it's a foreign firm.



Anyway, the retards at Medtronic made it a taxable transaction -- so it's like you were forced to sell the shares you've been holding forever and have to pay capital gains tax.....but then were forced to buy new shares at gunpoint, so you don't have any cash to pay the tax. Like anyone who might put forth such a stupid scheme, they've been trying to cover-up the details like a cat who shit on a hardwood floor. What makes it even more glorious, of course, is that you have to work through the whole mess to figure out the basis in the new shares, which she'll probably end up selling at a loss.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 02:30 AM (EzgxV)

370 cthulhu at April 11, 2016 02:30 AM (EzgxV)

You could call them up & tell them to prevent the gas leak by smashing all the office windows ...

Posted by: Adriane the Fire Safety Critic ... at April 11, 2016 02:41 AM (AoK0a)

371 370 cthulhu at April 11, 2016 02:30 AM (EzgxV)

You could call them up & tell them to prevent the gas leak by smashing all the office windows ...

Posted by: Adriane the Fire Safety Critic ... at April 11, 2016 02:41 AM (AoK0a)



I'd rather they all perished in their own conflagration.....

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 02:50 AM (EzgxV)

372 []

Also, []

Besides that, []

And that's why []

So I say to you, [], sir, []!!

Posted by: [] at April 11, 2016 02:50 AM (macz7)

373 Hey, folks. Was here earlier, but I was on call for severe weather coverage at work, so I had to go.

Anyone here?

Bueller?

Anyone?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at April 11, 2016 02:52 AM (rJUlF)

374 Hey, folks. Was here earlier, but I was on call for severe weather coverage at work, so I had to go.

Anyone here?

Bueller?

Anyone?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at April 11, 2016 02:52 AM (rJUlF)


More or less...

Posted by: The Phase-shifting Hat at April 11, 2016 02:57 AM (vBeA5)

375 I'm "more or less" here myself. I have to be back at work in six hours, but I need to wind down before I can sleep.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at April 11, 2016 02:58 AM (rJUlF)

376 'Morning, fellow insomniacs.

Thanks for the updates, Maet. Specially liked the info on Tannerite. This is news I can use.

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 03:01 AM (W0VID)

377 374 Hey, folks. Was here earlier, but I was on call for severe weather coverage at work, so I had to go.

Anyone here?

Bueller?

Anyone?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread On The All-Night Request Line at April 11, 2016 02:52 AM (rJUlF)

More or less...

Posted by: The Phase-shifting Hat at April 11, 2016 02:57 AM (vBeA5)



Myself as well. The candle is flickering.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 03:03 AM (EzgxV)

378 "Intervention is on"

*gets out drinking game directions for the show*

Posted by: DRINK! at April 11, 2016 03:04 AM (vBeA5)

379 I need to empty the d/w and the c/w, but then I found:

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA7HyhOpC-k

...

It looks good. Hope the story is good.

Posted by: Adriane the Book & Movie Critic ... at April 11, 2016 03:06 AM (AoK0a)

380 We had a really good rain & enough wind to knock the patio umbrella of, but nothing severe.

Easier to pull weeds out of the mud, but meeting tomorrow. One of many Arts Fest wrap ups.

Posted by: Adriane the Book & Movie Critic ... at April 11, 2016 03:10 AM (AoK0a)

381 Yesterday we were working in the yard a wee bit & "they" were cruising in the neighborhood across a few streets. Big empty parking lot in a half empty mall.

VROOM VROOM VROOM SQUEEEEEEEL for 8 hours. By about 4, we could smell the high octane & the burning rubber even though we couldn't see anything. Was like being at the race track.

Oy.

Posted by: Adriane the Eternal Combustion Critic of Internal Combustion ... at April 11, 2016 03:14 AM (AoK0a)

382 Oh well.

Roses are red,
Death & Taxes are certain,
The show of the day is ended,
Time to retire, behind the curtain ...

Better tomorrows, all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Eternal Combustion Critic of Internal Combustion ... at April 11, 2016 03:15 AM (AoK0a)

383 380 We had a really good rain & enough wind to knock the patio umbrella of, but nothing severe.

Easier to pull weeds out of the mud, but meeting tomorrow. One of many Arts Fest wrap ups.

Posted by: Adriane the Book & Movie Critic ... at April 11, 2016 03:10 AM (AoK0a)



Our city has an annual "clean-up day" when you can put unusual items at the curb and have the trash guys pick them up. As might be imagined, this is also an opportunity to drive around and scavenge your neighbor's items for repurposing. We nabbed a couple of 200-lb boulders for our landscaping, and a laundry sink made out of concrete that now is the most amazing spider-plant pot.....


....and, one year, a 3' section of train rail, which we put on our patio table and bungee to the umbrella for ballast. It doesn't look that big, but it's probably 30 pounds per foot.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 03:17 AM (EzgxV)

384 I have zero interest in Harry Potter, but that's a strong trailer.

With this, Suicide Squad, and Rouge Rogue One, it seems like studios have figured out how to run a franchise.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 11, 2016 03:19 AM (VdICR)

385 All the talk about bathrooms misses their point.

Every knee must be made to bend.
It's not about the knee.
It's not about the bending.
It's always about the making.

Church Ladies off their meds.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at April 11, 2016 03:30 AM (3Mimg)

386 Interestingly enough, it appears that Raspberry Pi 2B+ SD's won't run Raspbi Pi 3s. Rasppi 3s with NOOBS 1.9 run much cooler than Rasppi 2B+'s with NOOBS 1.5.




These little suckers are such a delight.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 03:36 AM (EzgxV)

387 385 All the talk about bathrooms misses their point.

Every knee must be made to bend.
It's not about the knee.
It's not about the bending.
It's always about the making.

Church Ladies off their meds.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at April 11, 2016 03:30 AM (3M___)



You will be made to care.



Well stated, Vlad.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 03:38 AM (EzgxV)

388 BTW, Hat -- sent you an email a while ago.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 03:44 AM (EzgxV)

389 Still SMH over Jordan Spieth's meltdown yesterday. How do you lose six strokes over three holes? Talk about the wheels coming off!

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 03:57 AM (W0VID)

390 Lousy night,
Lots of good stuff tonight
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2016 04:03 AM (9VEpl)

391 'Morning, Skip. Fresh pot just finished.

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 04:07 AM (W0VID)

392 OAN - John Brennan says CIA will not use waterboarding even if a future President orders it.

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2016 04:10 AM (9VEpl)

393 392 OAN - John Brennan says CIA will not use waterboarding even if a future President orders it.

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2016 04:10 AM (9VEpl)



The useless, idiot head of the CIA under the current dickless dumbass attempts to bind future CIA heads to suicide-pact RoE's.....yeah, that means a lot and will end well.....



Flush the agency and start over.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 04:14 AM (EzgxV)

394 Finally my coffee is done, stove top takes awhile.
Looked at the picture albums so far, on the Depression black outs it would be funnier if I could have put the dots on.

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2016 04:26 AM (9VEpl)

395 Flush the agency and start over.

Posted by: cthulhu at April 11, 2016 04:14 AM (EzgxV)


If the Dems loose the Presidential election this November, I fully expect all the Social Justice Officers to be sent to the Islamic State to do all that Social Justice stuff...

P.S. Got and responed to e-mail.

Posted by: The Just Deserts Hat at April 11, 2016 04:28 AM (vBeA5)

396 Brewing on a burner takes some talent. I brew coffee on the stove when I'm camping. Last year the stove failed so I put the pot on the coals in the firepit. Couldn't believe it when it perked.

If I could just determine when it has perked enough...

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 04:30 AM (W0VID)

397 Went through a couple of drip makers and machines failed one way or another, in a emergency pulled this old one out and been doing it for years now. Keep thinking of getting a drip, maybe with a timer again but haven't done it.

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2016 04:33 AM (9VEpl)

398 I think being on this tablet here and also reading a book on it is messing with my eyesight. I'm switching to a hardback for this week for a break.

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2016 04:38 AM (9VEpl)

399 I'm a Luddite with an electric percolator. Makes for some stiff coffee at times. I'm also thinking of a drip (in fact there's one downstairs I could resurrect) though the timer wouldn't do me much good. I never know if I'm going to wake up at 1:00 AM or 8:00 AM.

Used to drink Folger's but abandoned it last year when it got undrinkable. Maxwell House is working okay. No fancy coffee here.

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 04:39 AM (W0VID)

400 Skip, I don't know how people surf the net with a tablet. I have a 10-inch Samsung and it's all I can do to get the weather on it. Give me a honkin' desktop any day.

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 04:41 AM (W0VID)

401 I hardly drink the same coffee, and will get better kinds when on sale. Fresh ground is even better as its the freshness that counts I think.
I miss my computer, this time last year I'm sure I could find a random comment I made from the computer but with that I would never have turned it on in the morning unless I had to look something up.

Posted by: Skip at April 11, 2016 04:53 AM (9VEpl)

402 #53

It was still an issue of contention in Alhambra in 1999. I was doing some IT work for the Alhambra PD then and the daily traffic jam where the 710 dumped into Alhambra was flaring up as an issue again. Things were tried like having a 10 minute light on Valley Blvd. Valley would be halted for ten minutes, a REALLY long time for a light, like waiting for a really long train to pass, while cars emptied off the freeway. Which also meant the freeway was horribly backed up, though not all that differently from the backup that was already the norm with more standard timing of the lights.

The belief was that letting hundreds of cars go at a time would make for less creeping movement. Instead, once you were coming up on the end of the 710 and it ground to a halt, you could shut of your motor and wait for the next move forward, and this would be less tense than sitting there in anticipation of the next chance to move forward a dozen feet. If it worked out, there would be electronic signage so people would know when the next move forward was imminent.

I haven't really followed the conflict since then, beyond the occasional mention in the papers or local news. I've always made sure to never take the 710 in that direction any longer than necessary, as the one time I took it to the end in the afternoon drive time was an experience I'd never want to repeat.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 11, 2016 05:01 AM (IdCqF)

403 Night all.

Here is "Buttercup (I'm A Supergirl)" by Shonen Knife:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ZFeViTl4g

Posted by: The Political Hat at April 11, 2016 05:11 AM (vBeA5)

404 What about those that want no labels placed on them?

They can shit over the nearest cliff.

Posted by: JT at April 11, 2016 05:14 AM (K6pUg)

405 #137

You were aware of the other meaning of TPS, I take it?

Posted by: Epobirs at April 11, 2016 05:29 AM (IdCqF)

406 Well, this garbage isn't going to haul itself to the curb. Back in a bit.

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 05:53 AM (W0VID)

407 Good Morning Everyone. Remember that just by existing you are a thorn in a progtard somewhere.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yawnnnn at April 11, 2016 05:55 AM (WVsWD)

408 'Morning, Tim. Still raining over there?

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 06:11 AM (W0VID)

409 Nood.

Posted by: creeper at April 11, 2016 06:16 AM (W0VID)

410 Le NOOD

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 11, 2016 06:16 AM (ptqRm)

411 Three more hours and I'm heading to the house and my massage/heat pad pillow so I can maybe get some sleep.

Getting old sucks, especially when your body tortures you.

Posted by: Gmac-"All politics in this country now is just dress rehearsal for civil war." at April 11, 2016 06:33 AM (4pjhs)

412 A student of mine from Romania said that people had to smile when standing in line for food or toilet paper during he communist reign. The smile said that you were a happy revolutionary !

Yes, you will be made to care!

Posted by: Pj at April 11, 2016 11:58 PM (3iN/4)

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