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Trump Conceding Colorado to Cruz?

Disarray.

The background here is that Colorado elects its delegates in a series of congressional district conventions that take place on different days, and that Trump's pointman for the state was just fired and replaced by another guy on Tuesday.

Colorado is not going well for Donald Trump.

After a shake-up at the top this week in which Trump empowered Paul Manafort to manage the campaign’s troubled delegate operation, Sen. Ted Cruz swept a third straight Congressional District convention Thursday night. All three of the delegates selected by local party members were listed on a slate put forward by the Cruz campaign. Four more districts choose delegates on Friday and another 13 are up for grabs at the state convention on Saturday.

Trump aides concede that Colorado is not a promising state, but the level of disorganization at Thursday’s event suggested problems that ran deeper than the top-line results.

Addressing the audience, Trump’s new Colorado state director Patrick Davis told supporters to vote for the three pro-Trump delegate candidates on a glossy brochure the campaign distributed.

"Look for them on the back when you vote Donald Trump!” Davis said. “He’s going to make America great again!"

There was only one problem: Two of the three names weren’t listed on the ballot.
"That’s a good question," Davis told reporters after his speech when asked why they were left off.

There were, however, three pro-Trump delegates on the ballot who weren't sanctioned by the campaign. One of them, Cully Marshall, made his case for Trump in a poem.

"He’s our only hope against Hillary, that lying crooked witch," Marshall said. “He's going to build that wall and make Hillary El Chapo's personal...” He trailed off.

After some digging, Davis returned with a solution to the mystery of the missing delegates. One of the delegates had failed to pay the necessary fee to get on the ballot. He assumed the other was left off for similar reasons.

"Administrative error," he said.

Meanwhile, there's all sorts of drama in the DJT.

On Tuesday, Politico reported that the Trump campaign is "increasingly falling into disarray," conducting massive layoffs and dismantling what little infrastructure it has, including in key general-election states such as Ohio and Florida.

The campaign’s data team is now partly in the hands of "a 2015 college graduate whose last job was an internship with the consumer products company Colgate-Palmolive," wrote Politico, adding: "Some of the campaign’s data remains inaccessible."

...

Then, on Wednesday, Politico augmented its tale of woe, reporting that the Trump campaign is embroiled in a power struggle between campaign manager Corey Lewandowski (who two weeks ago was charged with misdemeanor battery in Florida) and Paul Manafort, the veteran Republican operative hired last month to be Trump’s convention manager. According to Politico, Lewandowski recently sacked the man in charge of Trump’s Colorado operation because he disobeyed Lewandowski and communicated with Manafort directly. The campaign now has no state chair.

Meanwhile, insiders say that Manafort has been considering leaving the campaign if he does not receive more support. (On Thursday, Trump announced that he was "consolidating the functions related to the nomination process and assigning them" to Manafort -- perhaps an attempt to demonstrate support.) Lewandowski, as is his way, denies all, maintaining that Trump has "the most cohesive, loyal staff, the most loving staff I have ever had the privilege of working with on a campaign."

Contrast this with the Cruz campaign, which has been almost entirely free of such problems.

Some people excuse Trump's failings by saying "he's learning on the fly."

But is he even doing that?

Posted by: Ace at 01:41 PM




Comments

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1 Good afternoon ace.

Posted by: HH at April 08, 2016 01:42 PM (DrCtv)

2 We're going to hire the best generals.....

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 08, 2016 01:43 PM (yJwni)

3 I saw Administrative Error open for Failing Candidate, at the Ballot Box, 2016

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 01:44 PM (Qvgg/)

4 Trump competency on display

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2016 01:45 PM (MJuTN)

5 I have been impressed by the hard work, smarts and organization of the Cruz campaign. If he is the nominee, there would not be any "Project Orca" disasters.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 01:45 PM (OD2ni)

6 Redstate is saying that Trump's team screwed the pooch on Washington State's delegate slate as well: http://tinyurl.com/jpw6hrv

Posted by: Revenant at April 08, 2016 01:45 PM (y64uP)

7 Top men.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 08, 2016 01:46 PM (659DL)

8 Maybe the campaign staff are high on Trump, and Weed.
But mostly weed.

Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 08, 2016 01:47 PM (vCA4F)

9 Trump competency on display


Why do people use this word? How does it improve on "competence"?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 01:47 PM (1xUj/)

10


shit

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 01:47 PM (1xUj/)

11 Mediocre, as Immortan Joe would say.

Honestly, I want SMOD, I want the Trump-ageddon, but it's not gonna happen with this sort of incompetence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 01:47 PM (lutOX)

12 "Redstate is saying that Trump's team screwed the pooch on Washington State's delegate slate as well: http://tinyurl.com/jpw6hrv"

So much for hiring the best people.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 01:48 PM (OD2ni)

13
Da barrel it dat a way

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 08, 2016 01:48 PM (jsWA8)

14

'GROUND GAME' MEANS FACE DOWN IN THE DIRTY TRADING MY ANUS FOR METH...

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE HEAD WEASEL at April 08, 2016 01:48 PM (qul7b)

15 7 Top men.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 08, 2016 01:46 PM (659DL)

You forgot the pause:

Top.
Men.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 01:48 PM (wAtVh)

16 *taunts Barrel*


What happened to that CBD thread from the weekend? There was no barrel, no amount of open tags affected the next post.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 01:48 PM (1xUj/)

17 Bandersnatch competency on display.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 08, 2016 01:48 PM (8ZskC)

18 Trump is giving up, there is no way he can get to 1237 without fighting for every single vote in every State.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 08, 2016 01:49 PM (iONHu)

19 Better ally with the GOPe to stop him.

Can you even imagine a government run by an incompetent? It's hideous to contemplate.

Charlatans.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 01:49 PM (xuouz)

20 I mean "competence." Sorry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 08, 2016 01:49 PM (8ZskC)

21 4
Trump competency on display

Posted by: brak at April 08, 2016 01:45 PM (MJuTN)

He's the best...the best. He always has the best and most competent people around him. He only hires the best people because he has the best brain. He knows how to make the best deals. The best. He's a rock star with Martian blood. WINNING!!

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 01:49 PM (aRUb8)

22 "Colorado elects its delegates in a series of congressional district conventions that take place on different days"

That sounds like a really odd way of doing an election. The entire process is a mess I think. We are maybe going to finally get rid of the caucus process up here. I'm sure it was great in 1894.

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 08, 2016 01:50 PM (btH0m)

23 Cruz is better at this kind of thing right now and it will bear him fruit. I don't think Trump makes 1237 and I think Cruz gets it second ballot on delegate wrangling.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 01:50 PM (LA7Cm)

24 7 Top men.

---

ooooo, where?

Posted by: Barry O at April 08, 2016 01:50 PM (R8ea6)

25 Can you even imagine a government run by an incompetent? It's hideous to contemplate.

--

No imagination necessary.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 01:50 PM (Qvgg/)

26 Speaking of Trump, I've noticed for a while now that damned near every Trump supporting caller into talk radio shows starts off with "I like Cruz, but..." It reminds me so much of the 'concerned Christians' that we saw in '08 and '12. Now, today, Patrick Ruffini has some info on how there's a ton of Trump bots on the Twitter, tweeting and retweeting the exact same thing. Trump is obviously getting a lot of votes at the ballot box, where it counts, but this astroturfing is interesting.

Posted by: Countrysquire at April 08, 2016 01:50 PM (eEBON)

27 "Colorado elects its delegates in a series of congressional district conventions that take place on different days"

That sounds like a really odd way of doing an election. The entire process is a mess I think. We are maybe going to finally get rid of the caucus process up here. I'm sure it was great in 1894.
Posted by: Minnfidel

I thought that Colorado had just changed its process?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 01:50 PM (326rv)

28 "Redstate is saying that Trump's team screwed the pooch on Washington State's delegate slate as well: http://tinyurl.com/jpw6hrv"


Who care about them. My dick is bigger than the Space Needle. Truth.

Posted by: Donald Trump at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (OD2ni)

29 This is the guy that's going to beat Hillary? Really?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (KUaJL)

30 Sour grapes. Enjoy your trump-hate thread.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (xuouz)

31 If the GOPe had tried to figure out why Trump was gaining popularity instead of mocking him and his supporters they might have killed his candidacy in its crib. It now looks to be too late.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (kTF2Z)

32 Colorado delegates retire to a smoke filled room (IYKWIMAITYD) and the last one standing after several bong hits makes the snack run.

Posted by: Sphynx at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (OZmbA)

33 Cruz is better at this kind of thing right now and it will bear him fruit. I don't think Trump makes 1237 and I think Cruz gets it second ballot on delegate wrangling.


Witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational backstabbing operation.

Posted by: The GOPe at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (8ZskC)

34 Dammit!

At this rate, LIB isn't an option, as the fucking arsonist appointed for the job can't even strike a fucking match properly.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (lutOX)

35 I thought New York was the only one that mattered?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (FkBIv)

36 "Posted by: Mimzey"


Shut up, Mimzey!!

Posted by: Nathan at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (OD2ni)

37 This is the guy that's going to beat Hillary?

Meh.

I'm not sure that's the 1,000-foot unassailable giant some people believe.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (659DL)

38 I still think Trump is going to get to 1237 but seems less likely now.

Cruz won't get to 1237.

So that does actually make the whole brokered or open convention more likely.

Where it will be a game of who can play those arcane rules.

I just don't see it being anyone who was an announced candidate this go round. Or last go round.

I can't see Paul Ryan given the Speakership on a platter and then the nomination for President. Wow, that would rival Obama's Peter Principle path.

Going into this election we had an embarassment of riches in the depth of the Republican bench.

And now look upon it all and despair.

Somewhere, Trashcan Man is smiling...well, more like laughing hysterically.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)

39 Dont worry, Trump will only hire the best and brightest slackers and layabouts!

Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (XPlby)

40 But WALL!! Best Words! Good Brain!! Beautiful Hands!!

Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (PNgj4)

41 Personnel is policy

Posted by: Heinrich Himmer at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (12kBq)

42 Heh, Palpatine

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (Qvgg/)

43 So this is what "winning so much we'll get sick of it" looks like?

O/T anyone else having trouble using Chrome on Conservative sites lately. It keeps crashing on Breitbart, here, and TheBlaze. But Brave works just fine.

Posted by: Iblis at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (rP2JJ)

44 Witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational backstabbing operation.
Posted by: The GOPe at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (8ZskC)
***
My keyboard is water-proof, but you still owe me a shot of rye, you magnificent bastard.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (lutOX)

45 Somewhere, Trashcan Man is smiling...well, more like laughing hysterically.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)

Dilbert reference?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (wAtVh)

46 Having the GOPe hoping and praying that Cruz can beat Trump after he screws up more, is like the Red Sox hoping to play their home games at Yankee Stadium after the toilets in Fenway back up.

Posted by: Roy at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (VndSC)

47 OK, now lets not act like the quality of people Donald has running his delegate operation is in any way predictive of the quality of people he'll have running the US government. that's just crazytalk.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (R8ea6)

48 Kilroy zen hemen.

Posted by: Basque Kilroy at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (ml1PM)

49 Oh goodie, another anti-Trump lede.

Trump has higher odds of getting to 1,237 than Cruz has of winning an open convention. Cruz is about to get killed in the April Big East primaries.

If there's an open primary, why does anyone think that hundreds and hundreds of your generic Republican delegates are going to gravitate to Cruz? When word comes down from the Inner Party that they should vote for Romney/Ryan/Whoever if they know what's good for them, how do you think they're going to vote?

You like Cruz.
You hate Trump.
You'll get Romney/Ryan/Whoever as the nominee.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2016 01:54 PM (r1fLd)

50 There's a state as well? How was I supposed to know there are two Washingtons?

Posted by: Katrina Pierson at April 08, 2016 01:54 PM (OD2ni)

51

Cooie! Yoo-hoo! I'm available for either party! First come first served!

Posted by: Joey Bidet at April 08, 2016 01:55 PM (qul7b)

52 Who care about them. My dick is bigger than the Space Needle. Truth.

Posted by: Donald Trump at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (OD2ni)

....and my tiny hands and stubby fingers make it look even bigger when I play with it, and nobody plays with it better than me. I've been doing it for decades..decades. I'm the best! The.Best.

Posted by: Donald Trumps Brain at April 08, 2016 01:55 PM (aRUb8)

53 does not sound good, but was colorado a must have or more like a
"nice to have" for his campaign? ; WI had a sobering effect. be
interesting to see what happens in the next few weeks, no ?

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2016 01:55 PM (c6/9Q)

54 Witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational backstabbing operation.
Posted by: The GOPe

I have no love or trust for the GOPe, but it appears as though trumps' standing are due to poor organization, not the GOPe. He definitely does better in primary states, especially open primaries.

This thing in Colorado seems to be the exact opposite of that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 01:55 PM (326rv)

55 If there's an open primary, why does anyone think that hundreds and
hundreds of your generic Republican delegates are going to gravitate to
Cruz? When word comes down from the Inner Party that they should vote
for Romney/Ryan/Whoever if they know what's good for them, how do you
think they're going to vote?

--

Because they know that if neither Trump or Cruz is on the ballot, the GOP ceases to exist as a viable party.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 01:56 PM (Qvgg/)

56 49 Oh goodie, another anti-Trump lede.

Trump has higher odds of getting to 1,237 than Cruz has of winning an open convention. Cruz is about to get killed in the April Big East primaries.

If there's an open primary, why does anyone think that hundreds and hundreds of your generic Republican delegates are going to gravitate to Cruz? When word comes down from the Inner Party that they should vote for Romney/Ryan/Whoever if they know what's good for them, how do you think they're going to vote?

You like Cruz.
You hate Trump.
You'll get Romney/Ryan/Whoever as the nominee.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2016 01:54 PM (r1fLd)

Because changing Rule 40(b) is going to require 1237 delegates to vote for it on the floor, with the whole country watching.

Which, I admit, there is a chance of it happening. But, then there is literally no more GOP party, as 60%+ of the people who make up the party take their ball and go home.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 01:56 PM (wAtVh)

57 Sayeth The Trump:

"Look on my Works, Ye Mighty, and Repair!"

YUUUUUUUGE Winning, yes ... ?

Posted by: Dr_No at April 08, 2016 01:56 PM (bICLx)

58 Sorry. We thought Colorado was a river.

Posted by: Donald Trump at April 08, 2016 01:56 PM (8ZskC)

59 If there's an open primary, why does anyone think that hundreds and hundreds of your generic Republican delegates are going to gravitate to Cruz? When word comes down from the Inner Party that they should vote for Romney/Ryan/Whoever if they know what's good for them, how do you think they're going to vote?


Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2016 01:54 PM (r1fLd)
***
Sux being an Outer Party member, brother.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 01:56 PM (lutOX)

60 No biggie. I'm not on the ballot either. I was going to hire a CO campaign staff, but then I got high.

Posted by: Bucket of Dog Vomit at April 08, 2016 01:57 PM (kTF2Z)

61 Trump's learning what he always learns: how to make the same stupid mistake over and over again...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 08, 2016 01:57 PM (Kucy5)

62 Dammit!

At this rate, LIB isn't an option, as the fucking arsonist appointed for the job can't even strike a fucking match properly.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (lutOX)


No, no, that's team Burn It Down.

LIB doesn't have to do a thing except find a safe space and bring popcorn.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 08, 2016 01:57 PM (uURQL)

63 shit
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 01:47 PM


FIFY.

Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (ml1PM)

64 Trump has higher odds of getting to 1,237 than Cruz has of winning an open convention. Cruz is about to get killed in the April Big East primaries.


I learned that Delaware is having its primary 4/26. Some guy called me to wax poetic about Gov Katshit.

That was a short conversation.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (326rv)

65 So much for hiring the best people.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 01:48 PM (OD2ni)

In the unlikely event that Trump emerges with a majority in the electoral college, whats the over/under on him actually screening the electors? It would almost be comical for Trump to be elected but then have the electoral college give the Presidency to someone else.

Posted by: Revenant at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (y64uP)

66 like the Red Sox hoping to play their home games at Yankee Stadium after the toilets in Fenway back up.

Posted by: Roy at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (VndSC)

Yer not going to believe this, but the toilets just backed up at Fenway and we'll be playing home games at Yankee Stadium from now on!

Posted by: Biff..the manager of the Red Sox at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (aRUb8)

67 "Oh goodie, another anti-Trump lede."

Come on now. The fact that the current GOP front runner is running a lazy, sloppy campaign is fair game.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (OD2ni)

68 The shit I just took in my adult diaper is not the best. Not the best. Just terrible. A real mess!

Posted by: Orange Clown-Shaped Pile of Shit and Garbage at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (PNgj4)

69 What I'm curious about is whether the Orange Imbecile bothered to register as Republican before the NY deadline.

It would be hilarious if his own incompetence prevented him from voting in his home state.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (7uCni)

70 Or perhaps you'll return to your ideas about the proles?

Put it out of your mind. The proles are helpless animals. The Party is humanity.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (lutOX)

71 >> 19 Better ally with the GOPe to stop him.

Can you even imagine a government run by an incompetent? It's hideous to contemplate.

Charlatans. >>

Peeled away, "Obama was incompetent so Trump" is the argument.

Posted by: fightwinger at April 08, 2016 01:58 PM (sQQU0)

72 Nah, he's still good there
He'll just make a better deal with the delegates and it'll be YUUUUGE

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 08, 2016 01:59 PM (h41Z5)

73 "he's learning on the fly."

There's a word for that. Amateur.

Posted by: pep at April 08, 2016 01:59 PM (3e8zv)

74 25 Can you even imagine a government run by an incompetent? It's hideous to contemplate.

---

*Ahem*

Posted by: Barky Bark and the Incompetent Bunch at April 08, 2016 01:59 PM (rlfds)

75 Holy cripes--new Field Poll shows Sanders just six points under Hillary in California.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 01:59 PM (mcm0N)

76 Because they know that if neither Trump or Cruz is on the ballot, the GOP ceases to exist as a viable party.

---

you'll have to add bacon in there somewhere if you want it to be more tempting. or boobehs

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 01:59 PM (R8ea6)

77 At least Trump isn't as incompetent as Romney and his doomed GOTV system.....He is probably much more incompetent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2016 01:59 PM (Zu3d9)

78 62 Dammit!

At this rate, LIB isn't an option, as the fucking arsonist appointed for the job can't even strike a fucking match properly.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (lutOX)


No, no, that's team Burn It Down.

LIB doesn't have to do a thing except find a safe space and bring popcorn.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 08, 2016 01:57 PM (uURQL)

I'll be making s'mores.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 08, 2016 01:59 PM (0mRoj)

79 7 Top men.

First thing I though of too, Circa. Well played.

Posted by: DocJ at April 08, 2016 02:00 PM (zrsn3)

80 No, no, that's team Burn It Down.

LIB doesn't have to do a thing except find a safe space and bring popcorn.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 08, 2016 01:57 PM (uURQL)
***
I'm an LIB guy who's rooting for BID.

I feel like a Red Sox fan at this point....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:00 PM (lutOX)

81 Help me distributed Horde knowledge, you're my only hope!


Was it Virginia in 2012 that multiple candidates either didn't get on the primary ballot or were facing that possibility because their campaign managers didn't know the rules? I think it was Virginia, I could be wrong.

You have to know the rules to get on the ballot and if you don't too bad so sad.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:00 PM (mf5HN)

82 At least Trump isn't as incompetent as Romney and his doomed GOTV system.....He is probably much more incompetent.

--

Romney at least got himself on the ballot.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:00 PM (Qvgg/)

83 This Trump guy hires the worst people. The worst Jerry! The worst.

Posted by: Kenny Bania at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (BDZWU)

84 ATC, yes it was Virginia

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (Qvgg/)

85 Ace, I believe you mean "Mr. Trump".

Posted by: Katrina's Piercing at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (ls2n/)

86 67
"Oh goodie, another anti-Trump lede."



Come on now. The fact that the current GOP front runner is running a lazy, sloppy campaign is fair game.



Posted by: Benji Carver


Yup. Whenever his feet of clay can no longer be ignored, the conversation shifts to GOPe!, Romney/Ryan!, boogedy boogedy!

Posted by: pep at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (3e8zv)

87 81
Help me distributed Horde knowledge, you're my only hope!





Was it Virginia in 2012 that multiple candidates either didn't get
on the primary ballot or were facing that possibility because their
campaign managers didn't know the rules? I think it was Virginia, I
could be wrong.



You have to know the rules to get on the ballot and if you don't too bad so sad.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:00 PM (mf5HN)

I think that's right. IIRC, only Romney and Ron Paul made it onto the Virginia ballot because it required something like 12,000 signatures from each congressional district (or something comparatively onerous).

Posted by: Revenant at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (y64uP)

88 Trump has higher odds of getting to 1,237 than Cruz has of winning an open convention. Cruz is about to get killed in the April Big East primaries.

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i'd like to see the math on that one.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (R8ea6)

89 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.

Holy gawd.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (mcm0N)

90 Trump to Colorado delegates: Don't drink the bong water.

Posted by: Brawndo Sales Rep at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (9eYoy)

91 "69 What I'm curious about is whether the Orange Imbecile bothered to register as Republican before the NY deadline."


I wonder if #1 shill Hannity changed his registration from Conservative to R so he could vote for his hero.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (OD2ni)

92 Was it Virginia in 2012 that multiple candidates either didn't get on the primary ballot or were facing that possibility because their campaign managers didn't know the rules? I think it was Virginia, I could be wrong.

You have to know the rules to get on the ballot and if you don't too bad so sad.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:00 PM (mf5HN)
______

Yeah, I think it was Newt and Santorum who failed to get on the ballot in Virginia.

Posted by: Dixie Wetsworth, Florida at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (XPlby)

93
Somewhere, Trashcan Man is smiling...well, more like laughing hysterically.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)

Dilbert reference?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric


The Stand?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (FkBIv)

94 You have to know the rules to get on the ballot and if you don't too bad so sad.


Yes, Virginia, it was Virginia.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (1xUj/)

95 81. You have to know the rules to get on the ballot and if you don't too bad so sad.

Who needs rules when you have yuuuuge deals

You're being an orangist

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (h41Z5)

96 Because changing Rule 40(b) is going to require 1237 delegates to vote for it on the floor, with the whole country watching.

Which, I admit, there is a chance of it happening. But, then there is literally no more GOP party, as 60%+ of the people who make up the party take their ball and go home.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

Wow, the entire country?

Do we have to go through the litany of suck again? The GOPe has screwed over legitimate winners of primaries before, and did it gladly. Now, they have incentive to stop trump.

The entire country watched them roll over on every spending bill. The entire country doesn't give a shit, and the MFM will be happy to record the implosion.

If they gave a shit about winning, they could have won 2012. They seem to be concerned about retaining power. Stopping trump is a priority. Ask the tea party about that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (326rv)

97 Alexthechick, it was Virginia. Romney and Ron Paul were on the ballot, but nobody else.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (ePcUK)

98 91 "69 What I'm curious about is whether the Orange Imbecile bothered to register as Republican before the NY deadline."


I wonder if #1 shill Hannity changed his registration from Conservative to R so he could vote for his hero.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (OD2ni)

People already registered had to change party affiliation last October to vote in this primary. New registrations had until the last week of March.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:03 PM (wAtVh)

99 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 08, 2016 02:03 PM (659DL)

100 Brought to you by Carls Jr.

Posted by: Brawndo Sales Rep at April 08, 2016 02:03 PM (9eYoy)

101 The idea that Washington insiders are going to be able to SUCCESSFULLY exert enough control over the delegates at the convention to lock Trump and Cruz out is something that should be investigated a little more carefully. Given their incompetence so far this cycle, it really does seem like a fantasy.

Posted by: fightwinger at April 08, 2016 02:03 PM (sQQU0)

102 25 Can you even imagine a government run by an incompetent? It's hideous to contemplate.

---

might as well ask me to imagine myself fat and bald

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:03 PM (R8ea6)

103 #53 If Trump can't count to 1237 RIGHT NOW they're ALL must haves for him. Cruz doesn't need 1237 to stay alive; if Trump walks onto the convention floor with less he'll walk back off itvqn overrated novelty salesman, the Krusty of politics.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 08, 2016 02:03 PM (Kucy5)

104 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.

About that.


Guess who's gonna get the delegates? (hint) look at every other state. That's why we call them sooooooper delegates.

Posted by: The dems at April 08, 2016 02:04 PM (326rv)

105 Anyone want some popcorn?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2016 02:04 PM (FsuaD)

106 No wonder they jump started Bill's pacemaker and threw him back out there.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:04 PM (mcm0N)

107 I saw Conceding Colorado open up for The Spin Doctors at the Fillmore in 1992.

Posted by: phreshone at April 08, 2016 02:04 PM (12kBq)

108 A good friend is a State Delegate. He confirms that Colorado is pro-Cruz.

He decries the stupidity of the CO State GOP, who elected to hold their primary essentially AFTER it would impact the national trend.

But it is what it is. Go Cruz!

Posted by: GuardAmerican at April 08, 2016 02:04 PM (GBnWt)

109 Sorry. We thought Colorado was a river.

Posted by: Donald Trump at April 08, 2016 01:56 PM (8ZskC)
=====
New York values!

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (MIKMs)

110 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:00 PM (Qvgg/)

Yup.

I think we are seeing the results of Trump's inability to keep focused for more than a few months. He loves the big splash, and was good at drumming up business for his business ventures with sheer bluster and energy and over-the-top pronouncements.

But notice he doesn't own most of what he created. Maybe he simply doesn't have the talent as a manager to keep millions of small parts of a successful business happy and content.

Unfortunately for Donald Trump, there is nobody to hand off this campaign to. He either fixes what's wrong or fails.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (Zu3d9)

111 Hemmer on Fox the other day was going through the map of remaining primary states and how they were leaning. If, IF, Trump wins everything polling his way now and can win CA with a high enough percentage.....he could just get across the 1237 line. Absolutely everything would have to go right.

And, since that rarely happens.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (LA7Cm)

112 No wonder they jump started Bill's pacemaker and threw him back out there.

He looks and sounds frail.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (659DL)

113 Can you even imagine a government run by an incompetent? It's hideous to contemplate.

---

These last 8 years have sucked pretty bad.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (KUaJL)

114 Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (mcm0N)

Any chance of a brokered convention for the DNC as well?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (BDZWU)

115 "People already registered had to change party affiliation last October to vote in this primary. New registrations had until the last week of March.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric "


Thanks! It has been a while since I lived in NY.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (OD2ni)

116 So trump hired a bunch of incompetents?
Well the Cleveland Browns need a job during the off season I guess

Posted by: Navycopjoe at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (h41Z5)

117 104 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.

About that.


Guess who's gonna get the delegates? (hint) look at every other state. That's why we call them sooooooper delegates.
Posted by: The dems at April 08, 2016 02:04 PM (326rv)

********

True, true.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (mcm0N)

118 The idea that Washington insiders are going to be able to SUCCESSFULLY exert enough control over the delegates at the convention to lock Trump and Cruz out is something that should be investigated a little more carefully. Given their incompetence so far this cycle, it really does seem like a fantasy.
Posted by: fightwinger

The national party fucked with state organizations and penalized them delegates for daring to go anywhere near the NH primary.

I don't put anything past these assholes.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (326rv)

119

But is he even doing that?

Ask again in May.

Posted by: Republican 2016 8-ball (snort) at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (DL2i+)

120 I still think Trump is going to get to 1237 but seems less likely now.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)


Trump needs 494 to get to 1237. Assuming, of course, that Cruz's imposing competency advantage doesn't lead to further a further loss of some portion of the delegates accidentally awarded him by an ill-advised consultation of the voting populace.

Assume he doesn't get 51+% of NY. Call it 70 delegates. Assume he wins PA (71) CA (172) NJ (51) and 75% of CT's proportional delegates (21)

That's 385.

DE, MD, RI, NE, WV, OR, WA, MT, NM, SD = 295.
He'll need just under half of those to hit his number.

The wildcard: can he win Indiana and its 57 WTA delegates? If Cruz wins Indiana he can probably hang on for a brokered convention. All the northeastern states I mentioned above HAVE to go Trump's way.

Let's try to enjoy the fight for the cabin of the nosediving plane that is the USA, and, if possible, each other's company.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

121 "He's our only hope against Hillary, that lying crooked witch," Marshall
said. "He's going to build that wall and make Hillary El Chapo's
personal..."



What rhymes with witch???

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (FsuaD)

122 If I remember correctly, that show was two nights before No Handcuffs Ever! opened for Alice in Chains

Posted by: phreshone at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (12kBq)

123 Any chance of a brokered convention for the DNC as well?
Posted by: Serenity Now! at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (BDZWU)

Like Kevin Garnett, anything is possible.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

124 I don't see how the GOPe prevents one or both Trump and Cruz on the ballot. If two thirds of the base are telling you they stay home on election day if the party substitutes someone else, that would mean an epic loss which takes out plenty of other party members.

Everyone, look on the bright side. The GOPe lost.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (Qvgg/)

125 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.

----

Dear Deity, please close all of Hilarys gaps. for the children.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (R8ea6)

126 So, Trumps campaign organization is managed similarly, runs similarly, and produces similar results to his business ventures? You don't say....

I'm sure this will be entirely different and everything will work perfectly once he's elected to the most difficult job in the free world and is expected to manage virtually countless foreign and domestic relationships, issues, and other affairs with which has has no experience and has, so far, demonstrated zero understanding of or interest in.

Posted by: Damiano at April 08, 2016 02:07 PM (XItbt)

127 We'll have Mr. Trump on for the hour tonight to discuss.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at April 08, 2016 02:07 PM (ls2n/)

128
Mediocre, as Immortan Joe would say.

Might as well hire Antonio Salieri to write a theme song for the campaign, then.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 08, 2016 02:07 PM (X6fMO)

129 Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think the Inner Party/Outer Party thing holds true.

And, yeah, the folks who pinned their hopes on BID or LIB - a/k/a Trump - were as foolish as Winston in putting his trust in Goldstein's book and the proles.

It's all a sham.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:07 PM (lutOX)

130 Somewhere, Trashcan Man is smiling...well, more like laughing hysterically.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)

Dilbert reference?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

The Stand?

--

Sesame Street?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:07 PM (R8ea6)

131
114 Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (mcm0N)

Any chance of a brokered convention for the DNC as well?
Posted by: Serenity Now! at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (BDZWU)

*********

I would pay good money to see Huma punch out Chris Matthews like he was Dan Rather at the Dem '68 Convention.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:08 PM (mcm0N)

132 Somewhere, Trashcan Man is smiling...well, more like laughing hysterically.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)

Dilbert reference?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

The Stand?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (FkBIv)

I thought The Stand as well. Been a long while since I read it, but as I recall, Trashcan Man had a particular liking for blowing things up and watching them burn.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 08, 2016 02:08 PM (b0LbM)

133 @45 see @93

Also:

Because changing Rule 40(b) is going to require 1237 delegates to vote for it on the floor, with the whole country watching.

How do you think Rule 40b came into being? They do it by voice vote and the chariman calls it.

And yes, "the whole world was watching."

Like they give a shit.





Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:08 PM (sKoAw)

134 Was assured by someone, just cannot remember who, that Trump was running a campaign unlike any other in political history. Just look at him go, they quipped.



Little did I know, they were talking about him wetting himself.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (pUDQf)

135 "99 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"


I mentioned in the last thread that I just saw former MSNBC host Karen Finney. She works for Hillary and is now about the same size. She used to be a little chubby, but is a huge whale now. Maybe she ate Toure.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (OD2ni)

136 Wow, the entire country?

Do we have to go through the litany of suck again? The GOPe has screwed over legitimate winners of primaries before, and did it gladly. Now, they have incentive to stop trump.

The entire country watched them roll over on every spending bill. The entire country doesn't give a shit, and the MFM will be happy to record the implosion.

If they gave a shit about winning, they could have won 2012. They seem to be concerned about retaining power. Stopping trump is a priority. Ask the tea party about that.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (326rv)

I admit it. I was using hyperbole.

My main point was that if they try to screw over Trump and Cruz, they'll have to do it via changing the rule. Which has to happen out in the open.

Again, they might just do that, but they will then have to contemplate how any (R) gets elected if the entire base stays home.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (wAtVh)

137 Let's try to enjoy the fight for the cabin of the nosediving plane that is the USA, and, if possible, each other's company.

I will man and inventory the drinks cart.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (326rv)

138
"Some people excuse Trump's failings by saying "he's learning on the fly."

But is he even doing that?"
...

No. They don't say he's learning anymore either.

It's now been declared as "unfair" and "cheating" to expect Trump or his campaign to do any actual work; he should be given delegates without doing work; and anything else is "stealing".

Posted by: gekkobear at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (4Zw07)

139 I don't see how the GOPe prevents one or both Trump and Cruz on the ballot. If two thirds of the base are telling you they stay home on election day if the party substitutes someone else, that would mean an epic loss which takes out plenty of other party members.

Everyone, look on the bright side. The GOPe lost.


Well they can always get tips on "The Voting Dead" from their "friends and colleagues from across the aisle".

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (PtXTn)

140 132 Somewhere, Trashcan Man is smiling...well, more like laughing hysterically.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)

Dilbert reference?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

The Stand?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (FkBIv)

I thought The Stand as well. Been a long while since I read it, but as I recall, Trashcan Man had a particular liking for blowing things up and watching them burn.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 08, 2016 02:08 PM (b0LbM)

Bomb-dee bomb-dee bomb!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (0mRoj)

141 >>> 118 The national party fucked with state organizations and penalized them delegates for daring to go anywhere near the NH primary.

I don't put anything past these assholes. >>>

Try? Yes. But succeed? If there's anything we've learned this election season, it's that the dcGOP is an utterly spent, ineffective force on the national level.

Posted by: fightwinger at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (sQQU0)

142 I just spent the last three hours trying to find my Bose noise cancelling headphones. Evidently the house ate them. Expensive $300 lunch. And I'll have to buy another cheaper set before I mow next time.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 08, 2016 02:10 PM (vvmPQ)

143

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz)

As I understand it, most of the PA delegates are not bound to the state-vote winner. The winner takes something like 17 bound delegates. The rest are unbound delegates, that (presumably) will be chosen from party poohbahs who are not friendly to Trump, and who do not have to vote for him on the 1st ballot.For what its worth, the 538 consensus is that Trump will fall well short: http://tinyurl.com/zxgsyxu

Posted by: Revenant at April 08, 2016 02:10 PM (y64uP)

144
We'll have Mr. Trump on for the hour tonight to discuss.
Posted by: Sean Hannity


And I'll spend all three hours of my show hating Trump.

Posted by: Dana's Lashes at April 08, 2016 02:10 PM (FkBIv)

145 Two rules for Mr. Trump:

1. Politics is not a business. Ideas -- and not money -- are the stock and trade of politics. If your ideas have no details, you have no ideas. If you have no ideas, you are politically bankrupt.

2. Place principles over personalities. Your loyalty to Lewandowski is costing you the campaign.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 08, 2016 02:10 PM (KCQo0)

146 Trump: "Our leaders are stupid. A lot things can be fixed with good management. I'll get the best people."

Voters: "You campaign is a complete mess and you bleeding delegates from....your wherever. What happened to "good management"?

Trump:

Voters: "Well?"

Trump: "You're a dummy."

Posted by: WisRich at April 08, 2016 02:10 PM (hdpay)

147 Contrast this with the Cruz campaign, which has been almost entirely free of such problems.
Posted by: Ace at 01:41 PM


Like forcing the resignation of a veteran campaign manager for putting out a false video about Marco Rubio? Like putting out a fraudulent voter violation notice to hamstring his biggest competition for evangelicals in Iowa?

You know what I'd like to see? I'd like to see a discussion of Cruz and his policy positions and his specifics.

For the last 6 months his whole identity has been the pristine, perfect alternative to Donald Trump.

You want less circular firing squad? Let's dig in on Ted Cruz. Show me the goods.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:10 PM (xuouz)

148 Even Breitbart is starting to see the light, recently running with weirdly pro-Cruz articles and an analysis of how Trump cannot get to 1237 now. Neither candidate can. So, hellloooooo Cleveland.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (pUDQf)

149 114 Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (mcm0N)

Any chance of a brokered convention for the DNC as well?

---
can't imagine it with only 2 people with delegates

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (R8ea6)

150 Thank you, everyone.

Except you, Bander.

*glares*

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (mf5HN)

151 he could just get across the 1237 line.

Now - a little while ago he looked winning. A week and a half after the cheeseball isn't that long and yet might be too late.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (DL2i+)

152 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.
Holy gawd.
Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 08, 2016 02:01 PM (mcm0N)


One year ago, the polling was 66%-9% Hillary/Bernie (May 2015, Hot Air). Now it's 47%-41%.

57% gap to 6%. Nice.

I have to say, I have not seen any Clinton stickers in Silicon Valley, but more than a few Bernie ones.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (uURQL)

153 128
Mediocre, as Immortan Joe would say.

Might as well hire Antonio Salieri to write a theme song for the campaign, then.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 08, 2016 02:07 PM (X6fMO)
***
Well-played.... very well-played.

AOSHQ - come for the smart mil blog, stay for the Mad max and Amadeus references.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (lutOX)

154 Any chance of a brokered convention for the DNC as well?
Posted by: Serenity Now! at April 08, 2016 02:05 PM (BDZWU)


I've been predicting a Joe Biden nomination following a Hillary Clinton indictment for 9 months now

Posted by: phreshone at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (12kBq)

155 As I understand it, most of the PA delegates are not bound to the state-vote winner. The winner takes something like 17 bound delegates. The rest are unbound delegates, that (presumably) will be chosen from party poohbahs who are not friendly to Trump, and who do not have to vote for him on the 1st ballot. For what its worth, the 538 consensus is that Trump will fall well short
Posted by: Revenant at April 08, 2016 02:10 PM (y64uP)

Well what the fuck

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (xuouz)

156 Gee what a surprised, Trump hires sycophants and yes-men who have no idea what they are doing but tell Trump what he wants to hear.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (+B4Qh)

157 Please stop mentioning Hillary! with the word "gap."

Thank you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (FsuaD)

158 I admit it. I was using hyperbole.

My main point was that if they try to screw over Trump and Cruz, they'll have to do it via changing the rule. Which has to happen out in the open.

Again, they might just do that, but they will then have to contemplate how any (R) gets elected if the entire base stays home.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

True, very true.

This would be truly going over to the dark side in a "let's jam a buzzy sword into Dad' kinda way.


If their #1 priority was winning, they would never dare.

If their #1 priority was keeping it for themselves, then they could convince themselves that they HAD to do it.

And most of the Beautiful People/Pundits would briefly applaud them for ditching the Donald. How noble of them.

After all, look at the murderous, corrupt vermin they laud every day.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (326rv)

159 For the last 6 months his whole identity has been the pristine, perfect alternative to Donald Trump.

Hyperbole, right?

Posted by: DocJ at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (zrsn3)

160 can he win Indiana and its 57 WTA delegates?

I might actually have to decide. I'm liable to be walking there in the snow.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:13 PM (DL2i+)

161 117 104 Bernie has closed a 40% gap on Hillary in California.

I've always said Hillary! won't be the nominee. Her own base despises her.

Posted by: Iblis at April 08, 2016 02:13 PM (rP2JJ)

162 can't imagine it with only 2 people with delegates

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (R8ea6)

It will all come down to my 2 bound delegates!

Posted by: Martin O'Malley at April 08, 2016 02:13 PM (+B4Qh)

163 What rhymes with witch???

--

Snitch

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:13 PM (R8ea6)

164 We laugh now, but we will cry with the inauguration of president Sanders and the imposition of five year plans.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:13 PM (Qvgg/)

165 So, General Mattis, anyone? *pops more popcorn*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2016 02:13 PM (FsuaD)

166 I'm going to hire the best people! Believe me! This will be a huge success! We will make thing great again! Better than you can imagine!
~ Trump on Trump Steaks
~ Trump on Trump Airlines
~ Trump on Trump University
~ Trump on Trump Taj Mahal
~ Trump on Trump Clothing
~ Trump on Trump Airlines
...

~ Trump on Trump Campaign for President

Posted by: Damiano at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (XItbt)

167
Let's try to enjoy the fight for the cabin of the nosediving plane that is the USA, and, if possible, each other's company.


I will man and inventory the drinks cart.




Well, quit stalling and make us some Old Fashioneds! It's the only way to fly!

Posted by: Tyler Fitzgerald at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (X6fMO)

168 Her own base may despise her, but her party powers that be, don't.

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (suO/a)

169 Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (mf5HN)

Why are you being so short with Bandersnatch?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (Zu3d9)

170 I'm thinking the Democrats are at the "Let It Bern" phase of their dissatisfaction with establishment Democrats.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (KCQo0)

171 "156 Gee what a surprised, Trump hires sycophants and yes-men who have no idea what they are doing but tell Trump what he wants to hear."


Mr. Trump, your manhood is bigger than Milton Berle and John Holmes combined.

Posted by: Katrina Pierson at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (OD2ni)

172
So, hellloooooo Cleveland <<<<

Yeah. Someday we'll all look back on this and laugh and laugh about how the GOP thought they could solve their problems in CLEVELAND.

I could not make this stuff up, even if I was the love child of Elmore Leonard and Dave Barry.

Posted by: simplemind at April 08, 2016 02:15 PM (JTwsP)

173 Mmmm, must be the season of the witch

Posted by: Donovan at April 08, 2016 02:15 PM (FkBIv)

174 "If their #1 priority was winning, they would never dare"



Well, I think that all but guarantees it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:15 PM (LA7Cm)

175 Trump rally report linked in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at April 08, 2016 02:15 PM (UbeIw)

176
Gee what a surprised, Trump hires sycophants and yes-men who have no
idea what they are doing but tell Trump what he wants to hear.

---

To be fair, it worked in 2008.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:16 PM (Qvgg/)

177 For the last 6 months his whole identity has been the pristine, perfect alternative to Donald Trump.
===
Hyperbole, right?
Posted by: DocJ at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (zrsn3)


I left out "on this site." He's Everything Right With America to the nevertrumpers on this site (and others that I don't frequent).

It's not hyperbole. How about some specific explanations of how he's superior to Trump, rather than the bald assertion that he is?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:16 PM (xuouz)

178 >>>>>No wonder they jump started Bill's pacemaker and threw him back out there.



He looks and sounds frail.
.
.
.
.He looks like $hit and there is no way he will make it to the finish line if hillary gets the White House. He will stroke out.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 08, 2016 02:16 PM (iONHu)

179 I think General Mattis is going to need a better slogan than " Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."

I mean, that might be good to take into a negotiation with Congress, but, needs some focus group work for a bumper sticker.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:16 PM (sKoAw)

180 158 I admit it. I was using hyperbole.

My main point was that if they try to screw over Trump and Cruz, they'll have to do it via changing the rule. Which has to happen out in the open.

Again, they might just do that, but they will then have to contemplate how any (R) gets elected if the entire base stays home.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

True, very true.

This would be truly going over to the dark side in a "let's jam a buzzy sword into Dad' kinda way.


If their #1 priority was winning, they would never dare.

If their #1 priority was keeping it for themselves, then they could convince themselves that they HAD to do it.

And most of the Beautiful People/Pundits would briefly applaud them for ditching the Donald. How noble of them.

After all, look at the murderous, corrupt vermin they laud every day.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (326rv)

Well, I don't think they'll do it.

But I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they did.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:16 PM (wAtVh)

181 Well, quit stalling and make us some Old Fashioneds! It's the only way to fly!
Posted by: Tyler Fitzgerald at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (X6fMO)

Take the wheel, kid, and I'll show you how to make an Old Fashioned the Old Fashioned way!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:17 PM (xuouz)

182 "Some people excuse Trump's failings by saying "he's learning on the fly."

---
even i learned how to fly first

Posted by: Mohammed Atta (Zombie) at April 08, 2016 02:17 PM (R8ea6)

183 It's not hyperbole. How about some specific explanations of how he's superior to Trump, rather than the bald assertion that he is?

Fair enough, GofK - I got no dog in this particular fight. Thanks for clarifying.

Posted by: DocJ at April 08, 2016 02:17 PM (zrsn3)

184 You want less circular firing squad? Let's dig in on Ted Cruz. Show me the goods.

He's gonna fight fight fight for ...

He's KiN SER Va Tive and likes the COnSti Too shun...

He's a hit with the young people and Millenials and...

He's not Hillary.




I got nothing.


Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 02:17 PM (PtXTn)

185 Why are you being so short with Bandersnatch?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (Zu3d9)


ISWYDT.

But you like raptors, right?

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:18 PM (sKoAw)

186 167
Let's try to enjoy the fight for the cabin of the nosediving plane that is the USA, and, if possible, each other's company.


I will man and inventory the drinks cart.



Well, quit stalling and make us some Old Fashioneds! It's the only way to fly!
Posted by: Tyler Fitzgerald at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (X6fMO)

It is BOFF*!!

*Brandy Old Fashioned Friday

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:18 PM (wAtVh)

187 It's now been declared as "unfair" and "cheating" to expect Trump or his campaign to do any actual work; he should be given delegates without doing work; and anything else is "stealing".

--
reminds me of how Ryan Reynolds stole my wife Scarlett Johannson. still pissed about that

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:18 PM (R8ea6)

188 "Take the wheel, kid, and I'll show you how to make an Old Fashioned the Old Fashioned way!
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane"


I wonder if bars even have sugar cubes to make 'em the old fashioned way anymore.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:19 PM (OD2ni)

189 >> I have to say, I have not seen any Clinton stickers in
>> Silicon Valley, but more than a few Bernie ones.

There's a few Hs around, lots more Bernies.

Posted by: JEM at April 08, 2016 02:19 PM (o+SC1)

190 It almost looks as if Donald Trumps plan is to grab the nomination and then tank in the General Election.

If that were not his plan, what would he be doing differently?

Posted by: Haiku Guy at April 08, 2016 02:19 PM (hmj8n)

191 157
Please stop mentioning Hillary! with the word "gap."

Thank you.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (FsuaD)

We cannot afford to have a Hillary Gap!

Posted by: Buck Turgidson at April 08, 2016 02:19 PM (pUDQf)

192 >>>laugh now, but we will cry with the inauguration of president Sanders and the imposition of five year plans.
......

The implosion happened in 2008. Everyone is has just been enjoying the bread and circuses and ignoring it while the goverment provides the media with fake numbers to report on how jobs numbers and chocolate rations have increased.

We could elect Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho or Zombie Reagan by 100% write in and the results would be the same.

Posted by: Damiano at April 08, 2016 02:19 PM (XItbt)

193 Allow me to pimp the addition that I did in >120

I want to talk about it.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (xuouz)

194 It almost looks as if Donald Trumps plan is to grab the nomination and then tank in the General Election.



If that were not his plan, what would he be doing differently?

--

He would be tanking later, maybe?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (Qvgg/)

195 >>> 147 Like forcing the resignation of a veteran campaign manager for putting out a false video about Marco Rubio? Like putting out a fraudulent voter violation notice to hamstring his biggest competition for evangelicals in Iowa? >>>

Your phrasing here puts your "just asking questions" theme in question, since neither statement is accurate--you've combined and exaggerated three separate things:

1. The voter violation notice was sent to microtargeted likely pro-Cruz voters in Iowa. Is it shady as shit? Yes, but unless new info on this has come out, it isn't illegal...unless your idea of "fraudulent" is "DJT called it fraud."

2. I really don't get why people are freaking out about the Carson thing. My first choice was Carson, and when I saw the CNN report/Cruz fwd on Twitter, I didn't see anything wrong with it. Not a single Iowan came out afterwards to say HEY I WAS FOR CARSON BUT I VOTED FOR CRUZ BECAUSE OF THE TWEET (probably because they had better things to do than read twitter during a caucus!).

3. The Marco Rubio video was the same campaign manager from #2 fwding a video that calls his own sense of logic into question (who the hell really thought Rubio would say that?). He was fired right afterward. Nothing "fraudulent" has taken place in his campaign since.

Posted by: fightwinger at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (sQQU0)

196 If their #1 priority was winning, they would never dare.

If their #1 priority was keeping it for themselves, then they could convince themselves that they HAD to do it.

And most of the Beautiful People/Pundits would briefly applaud them for ditching the Donald. How noble of them.

After all, look at the murderous, corrupt vermin they laud every day.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:12 PM (326rv)

Well, I don't think they'll do it.

But I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

If Cruz can manage a second or third round win, I'm sure that they will pretend that they were in his corner ALL ALONG.

If not, or if the trump supporters prove obstinate, then they will use that as a pretext.

In which case, they'll go whole hog and dump them both.

The beauty of it (if one can call it that) will be that they will place the blame squarely on trump and his supporters.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (326rv)

197 I was getting a haircut earlier today in NY when Cruz came on the TV. The guys started throwing shit at the screen and a few of them were holding their ears saying "please make it stop".

They are all Republicans, by the way.

Yes, this is your golden boy, who also loses in a head-to-head matchup with Clinton sans one poll by 3 points.

The only one winning that matchup? Weed smoking mardi gras head Kasich.

I'm a Cruz supporter. But if you don't truly believe a race in the hand of Mr. Nails on the Chalkboard Voice is "Romney, Part II with a Tilde", you're smoking something.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (O0lVq)

198 126 So, Trumps campaign organization is managed similarly, runs similarly, and produces similar results to his business ventures? You don't say....
I'm sure this will be entirely different and everything will work perfectly once he's elected to the most difficult job in the free world and is expected to manage virtually countless foreign and domestic relationships, issues, and other affairs with which has has no experience and has, so far, demonstrated zero understanding of or interest in.
Posted by: Damiano at April 08, 2016 02:07 PM (XItbt)


On a recent podcast Peter Robinson mentioned that according to NYC real estate people he knows Trump actually was respected back in the day for putting together good teams of people and managing them to build buildings and get things done. But he's been out of that game for almost two decades - these days he pretty much just licenses his brand name and does reality shows. And I think that his being out of practice in this area is showing in his campaign.

Posted by: Maetenloch at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (wqVD1)

199 I wonder if bars even have sugar cubes to make 'em the old fashioned way anymore.
Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:19 PM (OD2ni)
***
I'll do some research, later. Gonna meet a 'niece' for drinks.

'Course, I got sugar cubes at home. I've been known to do the heretical "Czech ritual" with my absinthe, when I have company.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (lutOX)

200 Seems as if though Trump's real strength is talking about buildings, not actually building any buildings.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (pUDQf)

201 Except you, Bander.



*glares*


You two:

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/
uploads/2016/03/funny-821.jpg

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:21 PM (DL2i+)

202 Trump's campaign isn't dysfunctional!!

It's competent!

REALLY, YUUUUGELY COMPETENT!!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2016 02:22 PM (wtvvX)

203 142 I just spent the last three hours trying to find my Bose noise cancelling headphones. Evidently the house ate them. Expensive $300 lunch. And I'll have to buy another cheaper set before I mow next time.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
------------------
Maybe Trump stole them?
That way, he can't hear his campaign crumbling around him.

Posted by: Chi at April 08, 2016 02:22 PM (uC3K8)

204 I have to say, I have not seen any Clinton stickers in Silicon Valley, but more than a few Bernie ones.

Boston area observations...

Bernie! sitckers: really pricey first-gen money (think Lexus, BMW, status cars) + college-kid-beater cars the stickers are keeping together

Witch! stickers: pinky-ring wearing union boss Caddy's and busted-out old Chevys

Easily 3:1 Bern over Witch in number, though.

Posted by: DocJ at April 08, 2016 02:22 PM (zrsn3)

205 It's now been declared as "unfair" and "cheating" to expect Trump or his campaign to do any actual work; he should be given delegates without doing work; and anything else is "stealing".

lol please define "work" and how "winning the vote in primary elections" fails to meet the qualifying threshold for the nomination.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:22 PM (xuouz)

206 Let's apply Occam's Razor to these scenarios:

A. Trump is a Wiley and fantastic manager and does things so efficiently he's only spending a fraction of other campaigns.

or

B. Trump was never serious about winning and was never going to throw away tens or hundreds of millions of his own money(if really has that much) when all he wanted to do was increase the value of his "Trump" brand.

Posted by: WisRich at April 08, 2016 02:22 PM (hdpay)

207 1. The voter violation notice was sent to microtargeted likely pro-Cruz voters in Iowa. Is it shady as shit? Yes, but unless new info on this has come out, it isn't illegal...unless your idea of "fraudulent" is "DJT called it fraud."

Posted by: fightwinger at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (sQQU0)

Fun fact: The Iowa GOP used that notice in at least the previous election.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:22 PM (wAtVh)

208 Seems as if though Trump's real strength is talking about buildings, not actually building any buildings.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:20 PM (pUDQf)

Yeah, let's see that faggot hang drywall. Then I'll be impressed.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:23 PM (xuouz)

209 "He's learning on the [intellectual level of a] fly".

Posted by: melanerpes at April 08, 2016 02:23 PM (uN8EQ)

210 It almost looks as if Donald Trumps plan is to grab the nomination and then tank in the General Election.



If that were not his plan, what would he be doing differently?


A conclusion completely opposite of the facts.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:23 PM (DL2i+)

211 "Speaking of Trump, I've noticed for a while now that damned near every
Trump supporting caller into talk radio shows starts off with 'I like
Cruz, but...'"

I like Bucket Of Dog Vomit, but...

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2016 02:23 PM (noWW6)

212 How serious is the man with no campaign infrastructure in any of the must win states for the general election?

Seemingly Trump gives not a sliver of shit about anything but himself. Yet here we are once again with his minions offering nothing to explain things to those of us who dare question his total lack of funding, core competencies or seeming concern for anything beyond the adulation at his next rally.

Me, I'd like there to be a country for my kids and grandkids to grow up and live in that retains at least some of the values that got us here.

Please let us know the great leaders plan.

Posted by: Anthony Weiners Ghostly Schlong at April 08, 2016 02:23 PM (N1ljp)

213 Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:11 PM (mf5HN)

Why are you being so short with Bandersnatch?


Heh heh.

Ha ha ha ha!

OH HA HA HA HA!

*ducks*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 02:23 PM (1xUj/)

214 Trump in action on a subject he actually has a background in. Congressional hearing for input on the proposed cost of renovation of the UN building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx651fvHMPo

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (xuouz)

215 Trump is not losing his Ground Game. It is just that his Ground Game is becoming more... selective.

saturday:

PUPPET SHOW

(and trump state committee meeting)

Posted by: Haiku Guy at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (hmj8n)

216 If that were not his plan, what would he be doing differently?

Karl is that you?

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (DL2i+)

217 Why are you being so short with Bandersnatch?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 08, 2016 02:14 PM (Zu3d9)

---

this might be an opportune moment to visit the barrel

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (R8ea6)

218 I was getting a haircut earlier today in NY when Cruz came on the TV. The guys started throwing shit at the screen and a few of them were holding their ears saying "please make it stop".

They are all Republicans, by the way.

Yes, this is your golden boy, who also loses in a head-to-head matchup with Clinton sans one poll by 3 points.


Posted by: Marcus T

So grown men are acting like middle school girls? Yeah, we can count on their votes.

This can be made into a poster as to why most of the country hates NY and New Yorkers.

Full disclosure: Born and raised in Astoria, Queens.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (326rv)

219

I hate that Hillary chick. She pegged me with a strap-on cucumber. Took me days to get tight enough again for Reggie...

Posted by: POTUS at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (qul7b)

220 "I saw Administrative Error open for Failing Candidate, at the Ballot Box, 2016
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 01:44 PM (Qvgg/)"

This is probably the best iteration of this joke ever.

Posted by: holygoat at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (DbBV5)

221 I'm a CO state delegate, and was a delegate for CD 2 as well. I saw a good ground game by the Trump people here. Cruz has good people here too.

Most here are "undecided" meaning, weasels who want to go to Cleveland to get bribed by lobbyists and stick us with Ryan.

But that's just Larimer, Summit, Boulder etc. The rest of Colorado might be more pro Cruz.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 08, 2016 02:25 PM (esX8N)

222
I left out "on this site." He's Everything Right With America to the
nevertrumpers on this site (and others that I don't frequent).



It's not hyperbole. How about some specific explanations of how he's superior to Trump, rather than the bald assertion that he is?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:16 PM (xuouz)

I don't love Cruz (my first pick was Scott Walker). Cruz may well lose in November -- he doesn't seem to have the everyman charisma that is so important in US elections, and he comes across as lawyerly with a quality that he believes that he's the smartest person in the room (and wants you to know it).That said, Cruz is the guy who launched a shutdown of the government in an effort to stop Obamacare funding, called the sitting GOP senate majority leader a liar on the Senate floor (something that is inconceivable in modern times) and has been a conservative thorn in the side of the GOP squishes in the senate generally. We could do far worse.I don't love the evangelistic aspects to him, but I can ignore it, like I found I could for W. I believe that Cruz is a true ideologue, which means that he gives me the most hope to actually effect needed changes to reduce the footprint of the federal government. The fact that his campaign seems very competent is also a good tell of his management ability. And, I believe that Cruz is probably uniquely positioned to make good SCOTUS nominations, an aspect of this race that will be with us for decades.
As for Trump, I believe that he is in well over his head. Once he gets into Washington, he will not have any idea how the government works, or how even to control it. It will be Ulysses Grant on steroids in terms of corruption. And, his instincts seem to be liberal, not conservative, so when pressed, he will fold for a liberal consensus position.

Posted by: Revenant at April 08, 2016 02:26 PM (y64uP)

223 I saw Administrative Error open for Failing Candidate, at the Ballot Box, 2016
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 01:44 PM (Qvgg/)

I was supposed to go, but I couldn't find my tickets. They turned up in the trunk of my car a week later.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 08, 2016 02:26 PM (KUaJL)

224 >>> 197 I was getting a haircut earlier today in NY when Cruz came on the TV. The guys started throwing shit at the screen and a few of them were holding their ears saying "please make it stop". >>>

"New York blows donkeys" is my takeaway from this.

Posted by: fightwinger at April 08, 2016 02:26 PM (sQQU0)

225 If you're anti-Trump, his running without a fully-fleshed out ground-game is evidence he's unserious and possible a sham candidate.

If you're pro-Trump, his current delegate lead despite operating on a shoestring budget and a lack of a team of hacks and political fixers passing envelopes back and forth between members of state delegations is all the evidence you need that he's serious about taking a hatchet to political corruption.

It's all a rorschach test, everyone drink responsibly.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:26 PM (xuouz)

226 I'm a CO state delegate, and was a delegate for CD 2 as well. I saw a good ground game by the Trump people here. Cruz has good people here too.

Most here are "undecided" meaning, weasels who want to go to Cleveland to get bribed by lobbyists and stick us with Ryan.

But that's just Larimer, Summit, Boulder etc. The rest of Colorado might be more pro Cruz.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo

Wait, what???

Do these people have reason to believe that the convention rules will change?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (326rv)

227 And I think that his being out of practice in this area is showing in his campaign.

And it's new to him.
And I'd expect a lot of the talent pool is putting #NeverTrump on their resume.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (DL2i+)

228 Colorado is suffering from an infestation of Progressive, carried on the winds from California, and concentrated in Denver. It also was trucked in from the East Coast, in shipments of college students and baristas.

Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (sdxPm)

229 Save me, Gary Busey, Meatloaf, guy from Beverly Hills 90210, Dee Snider and Trace Adkins.

You're my only hope.

Posted by: Obi Don Kenobi, Celebrity Apprentice at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (KCQo0)

230 You two:

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/
uploads/2016/03/funny-821.jpg
Posted by: DaveA



Oh that's cute!

I'm the sailor girl on the right.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (1xUj/)

231
Trump has higher odds of getting to 1,237 than Cruz has of winning an open convention. Cruz is about to get killed in the April Big East primaries.

If there's an open primary, why does anyone think that hundreds and hundreds of your generic Republican delegates are going to gravitate to Cruz? When word comes down from the Inner Party that they should vote for Romney/Ryan/Whoever if they know what's good for them, how do you think they're going to vote?

You like Cruz.
You hate Trump.
You'll get Romney/Ryan/Whoever as the nominee.
Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2016 01:54 PM (r1fLd)

Because changing Rule 40(b) is going to require 1237 delegates to vote for it on the floor, with the whole country watching.

Which, I admit, there is a chance of it happening. But, then there is literally no more GOP party, as 60%+ of the people who make up the party take their ball and go home.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

And, you have to assume Trump and Cruz don't cut a deal to screw the GOPe the night before the convention.

Posted by: T Paine at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (cXiMR)

232 And he hasn't needed it til recently.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (DL2i+)

233 "A. Trump is a Wiley and fantastic manager and does things so efficiently he's only spending a fraction of other campaigns."

He's a Wile E. Coyote manager.

What do you mean, the ACME Delegat-O-Matic exploded in flames? That plan was brilliant! I'm a super genius!

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (noWW6)

234 Trump is a leftwing lifelong-member of the Northeastern establishment, that hasn't changed, no matter how many times he says "Wall". Hopefully his campaign fritters out and the Convention nominates Cruz without too much sturm und drang.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (2cS/G)

235 This is the mighty Trump management expertise?!?

A lazy, undisciplined berserker.

And yet the rest of the GOP was so sorry, he's their frontrunner...

Truly, the candidate they deserve.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (9krrF)

236 OT, but that video of Michelle Bachmann using the MTA Metrocard and trolling Hillary is pretty funny. Michelle still looks good too.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (OD2ni)

237
I left out "on this site." He's Everything Right With America to the
nevertrumpers on this site (and others that I don't frequent).


Who, Cruz? He's not a Messiah, no. I am quite certain Cruz would let us down too, along with every other human being. But he is still far preferable to Trump that is for sure.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (+B4Qh)

238 "It's been ____ years since a Brokered Convention."

If Harding hadn't smoked up all those rooms, the next president would have been General Leonard Wood. And we'd have never had that malaria epidemic.

I'm sure he would have won, too. Because the field that year was two Ohio newspaper editors. Cox Communications is still in business, by the way.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (xq1UY)

239 "I like Bucket Of Dog Vomit, but..."


I've been yo-yoing back and forth but I think I'm pretty firmly in Hyena's camp right now.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (LA7Cm)

240 I'm a CO state delegate.....

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at April 08, 2016 02:25 PM (esX8N)




They let terlit hobos be delegates? No wonder we're in this sorry shape.



Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:29 PM (dFi94)

241 And, you have to assume Trump and Cruz don't cut a deal to screw the GOPe the night before the convention.
Posted by: T Paine at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (cXiMR)

They might. But that only affects those delegates who will listen to them after the first ballot. If 75% of Trumps bound delegates don't actually care for him, on ballot 2, they may not give two poops about what DJT thinks.

Same story with Cruz, tho he appears (key word right there, b/c I can't do italics) to be doing better at actually slotting friendlies into his delegates.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:29 PM (wAtVh)

242 "New York blows donkeys" is my takeaway from this.

That's actually a pretty good general rule of thumb for most things.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 08, 2016 02:30 PM (9krrF)

243 I've been yo-yoing back and forth but I think I'm pretty firmly in Hyena's camp right now.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (LA7Cm)

I've left the Gaping, Freely Bleeding Head Wound camp and am now a staunch Repeatedly Stabbing Yourself in the Face supporter!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:30 PM (xuouz)

244 >>Full disclosure: Born and raised in Astoria, Queens.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (326rv)
<<

It's not just NY. I can tell you similar stories from other states including places like Iowa.

Cruz is not really as strong a candidate as he's being made out to be. The man is just not that dynamic or invigorating.

I think you hear the backroom mumbling about a third party candidate because they've seen the internals on both Cruz and Trump and it's not a pretty picture.

Once again the party will have to count on a theme of yes, we suck less than the other guy. Well, we know the other guy sucks so- meh, we'll just vote for the devil we know.

Even the GOP has figured out by now that mediocrity is not going to win in the general. Unless they cart the Old Hag off to prison, the GOP is going to have a tough time winning with someone as inarticulate and seemingly insincere as Cruz. At least Hillary is a polished liar.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:30 PM (O0lVq)

245 "I hate that Hillary chick. She pegged me with a strap-on cucumber. Took me days to get tight enough again for Reggie...
Posted by: POTUS"


According to Gennifer Flowers, Bill liked taking a dildo in the old poop shoot as well.

Posted by: Benji Carver at April 08, 2016 02:30 PM (OD2ni)

246 I was getting a haircut earlier today in NY when Cruz came on the TV. The guys started throwing shit at the screen and a few of them were holding their ears saying "please make it stop".

Sad but true.

Welcome to LIV Nation.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 02:31 PM (PtXTn)

247 I am quite certain Cruz would let us down too, along with every other human being.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:28 PM (+B4Qh)
***
There's always Yellowstone Caldera. He's a bit late to the race, true, but he won't fail us.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:31 PM (lutOX)

248 Even the GOP has figured out by now that mediocrity is not going to win
in the general. Unless they cart the Old Hag off to prison, the GOP is
going to have a tough time winning with someone as inarticulate and
seemingly insincere as Cruz.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:30 PM (O0lVq)



Well, that's just nonsense.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:31 PM (pUDQf)

249 "New York blows donkeys" is my takeaway from this.

--
New York values?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:31 PM (R8ea6)

250 Oh that's cute!

Some links go here and e-mailed to Mom.
Obviously some do not.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (DL2i+)

251 The banner over the door to the GOP convention should read, "Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (FsuaD)

252 You mean off-the-cuff remarks for the majority of the primaries isn't the best way to run a campaign?

Posted by: Hadoop at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (2X7pN)

253 "Better ally with the GOPe to stop him.

Can you even imagine a government run by an incompetent? It's hideous to contemplate.

Charlatans."


I thought the allure of Trump was that he was a supremely competent deal maker with the best brain.

Posted by: holygoat at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (DbBV5)

254 I was getting a haircut earlier today in NY when Cruz came on the
TV. The guys started throwing shit at the screen and a few of them were
holding their ears saying "please make it stop".



Sad but true.
=================================


What are they? Four?

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (dFi94)

255 Do these people have reason to believe that the convention rules will change?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:27 PM (326rv)


Of COURSE the rules will change, they always do. Think all the delegates are all studied up on the rules?

They keep hearing on the news that there will be a brokered convention.

I expect for delegates at least in some cases this translates into hookers and blow.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (sKoAw)

256 And, you have to assume Trump and Cruz don't cut a deal to screw the GOPe the night before the convention.

THAT would be hiring the right guy at the right time.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (DL2i+)

257 "New York blows donkeys"



Ya don't say?


Posted by: A Donkey at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (LA7Cm)

258 Remember back in 2008 when people said that Obama's running a successful, no-drama campaign was proof of his executive prowess?

I wonder if they'll give Cruz the same credit.

Posted by: biancaneve at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (e98eb)

259 Cruz would be so much better than every other likely option at this point. I'll settle for Trump aka "Fuck you, GOP," but I'll happily take Cruz instead. So... this is good news, right?

Posted by: shillelagh at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (L3vVL)

260
If you want Cruz to get to 1237 (or to defeat Trump), you'd better start focusing on Kasich and release your pitbull-like bite on Trump's leg.

Kasick is your #1 problem right now, not Trump. Ignore Kasick at yours and Cruz's peril, mostly yours.

Your peril, do not ignore it.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (FiWED)

261 The GOPe has a Trump problem. He's attracting new voters -- but they're icky plebs. He has sky high negatives with women. He might expand the 2012 electoral map, or cost the GOP the Senate, who knows? Many of his positions are against GOPe orthodoxy.

So how does substituting Cruz solve any of this for the GOPe? In many respects, he'd be worse.

So why does anyone think that the Convention will leapfrog Trump to pick a guy with fewer votes and fewer delegates?

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (r1fLd)

262 If you're pro-Trump, his current delegate lead despite operating on a shoestring budget and a lack of a team of hacks and political fixers passing envelopes back and forth between members of state delegations is all the evidence you need that he's serious about taking a hatchet to political corruption.

---

But wouldn't it have been wise to have invested enough to avoid a contested convention? Pennywise pound foolish.

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (R8ea6)

263 There's always Yellowstone Caldera. He's a bit late to the race, true, but he won't fail us.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:31 PM (lutOX)

I'll take Yellowstone Caldera, SMOD, Nibiru...the form of the destructor isn't as important to me any more as the actual destruction.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (0mRoj)

264 So grown men are acting like middle school girls? .

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:24 PM (326rv)

New York values.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 02:34 PM (aRUb8)

265
Mr. Trump, your manhood is bigger than Milton Berle and John Holmes combined.

Ah, yes, Uncle Miltie. The man, who, when challenged by a new member of the Friars Club to compare penis sizes, said, "OK, but I'm warning you now - I'm only going to show enough to win."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 08, 2016 02:34 PM (X6fMO)

266

I SUPPORT BIG VEINY ASHY BLACK DICKS FOR PRESIDENT!

THAT BARKY GUY HAS THE SMALLEST WIENER EVER...

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE BANKS RECTUM at April 08, 2016 02:34 PM (qul7b)

267 Ha!
Cruz is inarticulate now?

Yep, time to go crack a beer & watch the dog chase shadows...

Posted by: Chi at April 08, 2016 02:34 PM (uC3K8)

268 Cruz is not really as strong a candidate as he's being made out to be. The man is just not that dynamic or invigorating.

I think you hear the backroom mumbling about a third party candidate because they've seen the internals on both Cruz and Trump and it's not a pretty picture.


It's a long way to November, but I still think that the practical solution is Trump/Cruz. They and their respective campaign personnel could potentially balance each other.

Anything else opens the door for the to GOPe say "see you need our guidance , you stupid teaparty hicks" and implant their own proto-Donk fcukhead candidate.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 02:34 PM (PtXTn)

269 140 132 Somewhere, Trashcan Man is smiling...well, more like laughing hysterically.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (sKoAw)

Dilbert reference?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

The Stand?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2016 02:02 PM (FkBIv)

I thought The Stand as well. Been a long while since I read it, but as I recall, Trashcan Man had a particular liking for blowing things up and watching them burn.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 08, 2016 02:08 PM (b0LbM)

Bomb-dee bomb-dee bomb!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:09 PM (0mRoj)

My LIFE for you! I brought the big fire!

Posted by: Damiano at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (XItbt)

270 I thought the allure of Trump was that he was a supremely competent deal maker with the best brain.

Posted by: holygoat at April 08, 2016 02:32 PM (DbBV5)


There is no monolithic Trump bloc. I expect that people who are making uninformed decisions about Trump's candidacy are generally uninformed. But NOT that all supporters of Trump are generally uninformed.

I think there are plenty of people who are interested in Trump breaking up the loser monopoly. If he loses, at least it will be a new way, and break the hold of the old losers.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (sKoAw)

271 I see the library computer wizard is back.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (FsuaD)

272 Anybody think either of these guys is going to fix America? Me neither.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (dFi94)

273 Is this a thing?

I hope it's a thing.


http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=265855

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (ptqRm)

274 I'm sure we're all old enough to know a few people who talk a good game, vs actually playing a good game.

Me, I can tell you how great I am at golf. Birdies, Eagles and an every other month Albatross.

Just don't make me actually have to show you my golf game. Pars, Bogeys, Double and Triple Bogeys and an occasional broken 5 iron.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (pUDQf)

275 I'll take Yellowstone Caldera, SMOD, Nibiru...the form of the destructor isn't as important to me any more as the actual destruction.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (0mRoj)
***
Nibiru is still a dark horse. But I like the way you think, sir.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (lutOX)

276 For me the allure of Trump was MY anger with the Establishment, projected. Then I thought about it, and switched to Cruz. Because my anger shouldn't be anywhere near the White House.

Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (sdxPm)

277 @247 That's just crap. Yellowstone Caldera hasn't even entered a single primary this year.

Posted by: Furious George at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (3GAnN)

278 You two:

http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/
uploads/2016/03/funny-821.jpg
Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:21 PM (DL2i+)


BC PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT I CAN BE A GOOD INFLUENCE! *points wildly*

NOT LIKE ALL Y'ALL SAY!

*points wildly*


RE: CBD's comment. In his defense, I'm short with everyone so, you know.

Bander, I shall allow you a dispensation due to services rendered.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (mf5HN)

279 Revenant thanks for responding. You're where I was in November, but on Cruz's side.

I smoke the Trump koolaid, but I don't inhale. Honest.

I have to disagree with you on two things:

The government shutdown was a failed piece of political grandstanding that didn't affect the budget and was framed as evil Republicans laying seige to the kindly, benevolent social workers of Washington DC, who just wanted to pay scientists to discover a cure for cancer and make sure black babies are getting nutrition. It ended up being a disaster.

And what is there to appointing SC judges? What's wrong with the two names Trump has floated?

And when it comes to corruption in DC, I think just firing everyone and then investigating is probably the best case scenario.

In the meantime, BOTTOMS UP ON THE BRANDY

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (xuouz)

280 "So why does anyone think that the Convention will leapfrog Trump to pick a guy with fewer votes and fewer delegates?"


I think Trump's only chance is getting to 1237 and getting it first ballot. If he doesn't I believe after that that Cruz will have a done a good job with the "anyone but Trump" delegates (including those from Rubio and Kasich) to get it fairly quickly.

And then, as said above, it'll be time for hookers and blow.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (LA7Cm)

281 How do you think Rule 40b came into being? They do it by voice vote and the chariman calls it.

And yes, "the whole world was watching."


It was passed by a voice vote over the loud objections of the Paulbots, but with Romney having earned a clear majority of delegates, few outside his Bircher Crank circles cared. Or had reason to pay it any attention.

A bit different this time.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (BqAWU)

282 I vouch that Colorado has heavy with the Bern around where I love.

Much of this state has people who state that they are in God's Army, make of that what you will, and Mormons. Cruz country.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (xpcdU)

283 So it's at National RINO, which means I haven't read it, but there's apparently a piece over there which points out that Trump guest starred in a WrestleMania pro wrestling storyline a couple of years ago.

Yes, The Donald is in the WWE Hall of Fame.

And, says the author, the actual Trump campaign of 2016 bears many resemblances to a pro wrestling gig. Trump is short on policy specifics? Not too many policy wonks among pro wrestling fans.

Ummmmmm... does this mean that the whole actual Trump 2016 campaign is just a kayfabe storyline setup? To have him "dishonestly robbed of victory" in the political arena, and forced instead to return to the ring in WWE challenge matches to restore his lost honor?

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2016 02:37 PM (noWW6)

284 272 Anybody think either of these guys is going to fix America? Me neither.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (dFi94)

Fix? No.

Start turning the boat away from the waterfall? Possibly.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:37 PM (wAtVh)

285 > 197 I was getting a haircut earlier today in NY when Cruz came on the TV. The guys started throwing shit at the screen and a few of them were holding their ears saying "please make it stop". >>>


Not to worry. The Cruz supporters just have to yell at them at how stupid they are and they'll soon vote for Cruz.

Posted by: @votermom at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (nbrY/)

286
I'll take Yellowstone Caldera, SMOD, Nibiru...the form of the destructor isn't as important to me any more as the actual destruction.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death


Nibiru : Planet Nine from outer space.

Posted by: Ed Wood Jr. Jr. Jr. at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (FkBIv)

287 I keep hearing Trump is attracting new voters to the GOP. What I'm seeing is Democrats, bots and bitter ex-Paulies. Think they'll stick around for November?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (Kucy5)

288 If you're pro-Trump, his current delegate lead despite operating on a shoestring budget and a lack of a team of hacks and political fixers passing envelopes back and forth between members of state delegations is all the evidence you need that he's serious about taking a hatchet to political corruption.

Or,

If this guy was soooooo sooooooper smart, why in Hell didn't he manage to organize sufficiently to woo a coupld dozen party types suffering from oxygen deprivation (lookin' at you Colorado)?

This is the guy who managed to get complex projects done in one of the densest ( I mean that several different ways) urban environments.

And yes, we here are using a far higher standard than dems (so we elected a corpse; so?)

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (326rv)

289 Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (xpcdU)

So, much of the stat is Hezballah?

Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (sdxPm)

290 If he loses, at least it will be a new way, and break the hold of the old losers.
Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (sKoAw)


No if he loses, we'll just get four+ years of butthurt and blaming. It'll become the Primary That Never Ended.

Posted by: Maetenloch at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (wqVD1)

291
And what is there to appointing SC judges? What's wrong with the two names Trump has floated?


Because he is telling you what you want to hear, and it is plainly obvious?

Because Trump doesn't have a conservative bone in his body, and when it comes down to actually selecting people, you can't listen to what he says - which is just marketing - and you have to look at what he actually *does*, which is, hire sycophants and yes-men?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (+B4Qh)

292 277 @247 That's just crap. Yellowstone Caldera hasn't even entered a single primary this year.
Posted by: Furious George at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (3GAnN)
***
He doesn't need to.

When he enters the race, he'll take all the delegates in a matter of minutes.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (lutOX)

293 My gut feeling is the Trump campaign knows it won't get to 1237 and is expecting to come up just under 1200. But they are banking on Trump's ability to "make a deal" with enough of the uncommitted delegates to close the deal.

There is also a sneaky possibility in this for Kasich. If he withdraws from the race, the Ohio delegates are committed to the number 2 vote getter, namely Trump. I could see Kasich dropping at the last minute to give Trump the 66 he needs to go over the top, in exchange for the VP slot.

Looking at the way the California polling is shaping up right now, it is pretty certain that Trump won't get enough delegates in CA to get over the top.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (kBIIG)

294 It was passed by a voice vote over the loud objections of the Paulbots, but with Romney having earned a clear majority of delegates, few outside his Bircher Crank circles cared. Or had reason to pay it any attention.

A bit different this time.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (BqAWU)


I think that whoever is the chairman - Ryan maybe? - can call the voice vote however he likes, and quite sure that Rule 40b will be gone this convention.

Likely they will put up a whole new rule book and make it all up and down. Rule 40b will not be in that new book.

Amendments will not be allowed.

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (sKoAw)

295 I keep hearing Trump is attracting new voters to the GOP. What I'm seeing is Democrats, bots and bitter ex-Paulies. Think they'll stick around for November?
Posted by: Richard McEnroe

Dunno.

How many of our brethren and cistern will vote for Hillary? We've heard that, and heard it here.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (326rv)

296 This is going to be a low turnout base election, pitting a socialist or unindicted but documented felon against either Trump or Cruz. I don't see a democrat blowout. I think Cruz can win easily, and Trump has a shot.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (Qvgg/)

297 Oh and re: the whole point of this thread: CO's delegates are unbound and were never, ever going to go to Trump. If he HAD gotten even one of them, it would have been a major coup.

And I'm sure the stories about his campaign's lean, agile ground game would have come pouring out of the truecon blogosphere thick and fast.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (xuouz)

298 No if he loses, we'll just get four+ years of butthurt and blaming. It'll become the Primary That Never Ended.

Posted by: Maetenloch at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (wqVD1)


We reached that stage months ago. It's already been an eternity since then.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (wB8Tg)

299 RE: CBD's comment. In his defense, I'm short with everyone so, you know.

Including...

... nah. Too easy.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (BqAWU)

300 "I keep hearing Trump is attracting new voters to the GOP. What I'm seeing is Democrats, bots and bitter ex-Paulies."


what new voters is cruz attracting ?

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (c6/9Q)

301 BC PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT I CAN BE A GOOD INFLUENCE! *points wildly*



NOT LIKE ALL Y'ALL SAY!


Fully embracing the Ewok Maxim - not this = all the that.


Suns out - time for walkies.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (DL2i+)

302
"New York blows donkeys" is my takeaway from this.

Don't knock it till you've tried it, I say.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (X6fMO)

303 "There is no monolithic Trump bloc. I expect that people who are making uninformed decisions about Trump's candidacy are generally uninformed. "


Oh the number of times I've read "what Trump voters" think on here from people who didn't one half of a goddamed clue what I was thinking.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (LA7Cm)

304 You can ignore me.....I am just here to get a good spot to watch this trainwreck.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (75+Nm)

305 287
I keep hearing Trump is attracting new voters to the GOP. What I'm
seeing is Democrats, bots and bitter ex-Paulies. Think they'll stick
around for November?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (Kucy5)

Even if the unthinkable happened and Luap Nor was the R nominee in 2012, the Paulies were never going to vote for Paul over Obama anyway.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (+B4Qh)

306 No if he loses, we'll just get four+ years of butthurt and blaming. It'll become the Primary That Never Ended.

Posted by: Maetenloch at April 08, 2016 02:39 PM (wqVD1)


Eh. Didn't we do that with Romney?

Posted by: blaster at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (sKoAw)

307 In the meantime, BOTTOMS UP ON THE BRANDY
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (xuouz)
***
Yes, ganbai!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (lutOX)

308 I'll take SMOD over having "Long distance electrodes shot into the pineal and pituitary glands"

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (suO/a)

309 "Unless they cart the Old Hag off to prison, the GOP is going to have a tough time winning with someone as inarticulate and seemingly insincere as Cruz."

LOL! Trump is articulate? In what language, exactly? "You're a liar, Ted," is up there with the Gettysburg Address, I guess.

That's even better than the late Merle Haggard's statement that Obama is "humble."

Cruz IS articulate. It's true that he comes across as smarmy and know-it-all. Contrary to what you say, the Cruz supporters on this site are under no illusions as to his likability and fully understand that he is a very flawed candidate. The Donald's fans demonstrate, once again, that their perspective on Trump is like an Obama fan's view of Obama: he's wonderful and no reasonable person could possibly hate him!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (u0lmX)

310 And then, as said above, it'll be time for hookers and blow.

---

point of parliamentary procedure...

when is it NOT time for hookers and blow?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (R8ea6)

311
On an upnote, Marie Holmes, the hot young woman who won $180 million bucks a year ago, well her boyfriend, Hotsauce, was sentenced to 7 1/2 years in prison for heroin trafficking. So, she is available...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (iQIUe)

312 Not to worry. The Cruz supporters just have to yell at them at how stupid they are and they'll soon vote for Cruz.

Posted by: @votermom at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (nbrY/)


I am interested in seeing whether Cruz gets enough hand from Gope up his backside to start mimicking their words, will that lose more voters than it gains?


Can anything at this point make Cruz more likable to people who fairly well despise him?

They keep saying the same of Trump, but anyone who is blind to how poorly Cruz comes off with those who are not pre-inclined to like him, may be in for a rude awakening.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (TOk1P)

313 300 "I keep hearing Trump is attracting new voters to the GOP. What I'm seeing is Democrats, bots and bitter ex-Paulies."


what new voters is cruz attracting ?
Posted by: runner at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (c6/9Q)

He can bring out the base, which is more than what Romney did.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (wAtVh)

314 >>Some people excuse Trump's failings by saying "he's learning on the fly."

Guess he didn't learn anything during his first presidential run. I'm really surprised. /s

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (t5zYU)

315 So the ballerina at UT was killed by a hobo. Who could have seen that coming except anyone who's ever been to Austin.

Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (hbefS)

316 292 277 @247 That's just crap. Yellowstone Caldera hasn't even entered a single primary this year.
Posted by: Furious George at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (3GAnN)
***
He doesn't need to.

When he enters the race, he'll take all the delegates in a matter of minutes.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants
_______________

So Yellowstone Caldera is going to rely on the old smoke-filled earth methods of the past, huh?

Posted by: Furious George at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (3GAnN)

317 Oh the number of times I've read "what Trump voters" think on here from people who didn't one half of a goddamed clue what I was thinking.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (LA7Cm)

Is Trump the most racist candidate I've ever seen?

No.

But he's the most racist candidate on the ballot.

And as a straight white male Christian capitalist, that's good enough for me.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (xuouz)

318 Putting on my tin foil hat, has it occurred to anyone else that Trump got into this race to grab all of the oxygen from the non-GOPe candidates, and failed to do so?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (Qvgg/)

319 Guess he didn't learn anything during his first presidential run. I'm really surprised. /s
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (t5zYU)

What year was that?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (xuouz)

320 what new voters is cruz attracting ?


*cough*

Posted by: Canadian-Cuban-American Preachers for Ted 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (PtXTn)

321 It's all amusing until in November you figure out you've circled jerked each other into the losers corner. The GOP doesn't just have a Trump problem. They have a candidate problem. Trump is just the distraction that's keeping you from realizing your preferred choice of Cruz is only that because you're too focused on Trump to begin with.

Now I'm a Cruz supporter and I really thought the guy would improve and become more adept as time goes on. But it's just not happening. He's just not endearing himself to the electorate and the GOP voters just don't goose step like the Democrats, who would vote for a shoe if the party told them too.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (O0lVq)

322 Kasich. If ever someone needed to be shown the door, it's that weirdo.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (pUDQf)

323 310 And then, as said above, it'll be time for hookers and blow.

---

point of parliamentary procedure...

when is it NOT time for hookers and blow?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (R8ea6)

You do have to sleep occasionally.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (0mRoj)

324 "What I'm seeing is Democrats, bots and bitter ex-Paulies."

And among the Paulite bloc, of the original hardcore first-generation Ronulans, a whole lot of them moved to Colorado immediately after weed was legalized, and neither hide nor hair of them has been seen since.

My new campaign manager suggested we hire a Fritos truck for our next rally. See if they can be lured back out. I'm giving this serious thought.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (noWW6)

325 So how does substituting Cruz solve any of this for the GOPe? In many respects, he'd be worse.





Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2016 02:33 PM (r1fLd)

Umm..he'd be better because Trump is a progressive liberal democrat??Just a guess.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (aRUb8)

326 310 And then, as said above, it'll be time for hookers and blow.

---

point of parliamentary procedure...

when is it NOT time for hookers and blow?
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (R8ea6)

When you're sitting at tables and not desks.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (wAtVh)

327 It's chaos and mayhem!

Posted by: Weasel at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (6xtq3)

328 and forced instead to return to the ring in WWE challenge matches to restore his lost honor?
Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2016 02:37 PM (noWW6)



If that means we get Trump hitting the Searchlight Strangler in the face with a chair, all of this will have been worth it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (mf5HN)

329 This is going to be a low turnout base election


Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (Qvgg/)


I had a very hard time forcing myself to vote in the primary this past Tuesday. I nearly did not go. The deciding factor was that I have never missed an election since Reagan. I didn't want to break my streak. I voted for neither Cruz or Trump.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (dFi94)

330 Cruz's entire strategy is to test Rush's hypothesis that there is a giant untapped pool of conservative voters that won't vote for the moderate types like McCain and Romney, but will vote for a principled conservative such as himself.

If Cruz is wrong, then conservatism has truly lost in this country.

But if Cruz is right, then we might actually see some conservative reforms in this country.

But with Trump, either way, conservative loses. There is no upside from a conservative POV.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (+B4Qh)

331 "point of parliamentary procedure...

when is it NOT time for hookers and blow? "


Point taken.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (LA7Cm)

332 Oh the number of times I've read "what Trump voters" think on here from people who didn't one half of a goddamed clue what I was thinking.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill



Psychic.

Or psychotic.

One of those.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (PtXTn)

333 >>What year was that?

I'm not your errand-girl. Google or Bing it yourself.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (t5zYU)

334 289 Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (xpcdU)

So, much of the stat is Hezballah?
Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2016 02:38 PM (sdxPm)

====

It strikes me as odd, too. I've heard quiverfull people say that.

But they have about 10 kids each. My wife and I only have cats. So we know where the future goes.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (xpcdU)

335 This whole mess, this whole of the Republican Party fustercluck, it's like everybody is plunging off a cliff, racing toward the rocks below, and everyone keeps pointing at each other, telling the OTHER people "hey, you gonna git it when you hit those rocks below!"

With total disregard for their own fates.

It's so bizarre to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (TOk1P)

336 Best f*cking people
Best f*cking deals

Let's talk our way to making America great again.

What does J stand for in Donald J. Trump, jackass?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (voOPb)

337 So Yellowstone Caldera is going to rely on the old smoke-filled earth methods of the past, huh?
Posted by: Furious George at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (3GAnN)
***
Time-tested, tried-and-true.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (lutOX)

338 I voted for neither Cruz or Trump.

I thank you for your support!

Posted by: Jim Gilmore at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (+B4Qh)

339 Looks like Cruz is cornering the strategery market.

WJ Bryant found out that talking a good populist game is not enough. Gotta bring a ruthless team of experts to a political fight.

Sorry, Ruth. It's not personal.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (FtrY1)

340 I voted for neither Cruz or Trump.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (dFi94)

KASICH VOTER! KASICH VOTER!!!

*ewoks swarm out of the trees with clubs and spears*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (xuouz)

341
He can bring out the base, which is more than what Romney did.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric


Romney got more votes than McCain.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (FkBIv)

342 "I could see Kasich dropping at the last minute to give Trump the 66 he needs to go over the top, in exchange for the VP slot."

Quite plausible. Kasich can help in place like OH and PA. I don't like him and he's actually a Democrat, but this is politics

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (r1fLd)

343 338 I voted for neither Cruz or Trump.

I thank you for your support!
Posted by: Jim Gilmore at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (+B4Qh)

I'd sooner vote for Happy Glimore.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (0mRoj)

344 Now I'm a Cruz supporter and I really thought the
guy would improve and become more adept as time goes on. But it's just
not happening. He's just not endearing himself to the electorate and the
GOP voters just don't goose step like the Democrats, who would vote for
a shoe if the party told them too.


Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (O0lVq)

For someone not endearing himself to voters, he sure does seem to be winning their votes. Can you say four in a row?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (pUDQf)

345 Gilmore. Dammit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (0mRoj)

346 314 >>Some people excuse Trump's failings by saying "he's learning on the fly."

Guess he didn't learn anything during his first presidential run. I'm really surprised. /s
PostedPosted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (t5zYU)

Learning on the fly is really only a good excuse for a new fry cook.

Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (sdxPm)

347 " I voted for neither Cruz or Trump."

*cue the dramatic tone*

BUM-BUM-BUMMMMM

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (LA7Cm)

348 I'm operating on the assumption that while Trump would kinda, sorta like to be POTUS, he's not about to spend his personal fortune to get it as he promised at the beginning of his campaign.

Because he has no use for the GOP and just borrowed the "Republican" moniker for this campaign, he'll torch the eventual nominee (it won't be him) during the general, handing the election to Shrillary, getting paid off by the Dems, and expanding the admoration of the "Trump" brand to all those blue collar and working class Trumpkins.

What a country! {clink} Bottoms up.

Posted by: WisRich at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (hdpay)

349 Hm, but NY, WV, PA, MD, etc. not going well for Cruz. Which bit of news is more important? Cruz will be boxed out of getting the 1237 by the end of April... that is the truth. Cruz is playing the 'contested convention' game b/c it is the only one he has left. Trump is still playing the primary game because he has a very clear path to win the 1237 he needs.

Two different strategies for two different types of candidates - one a winner, one a spoiler.

Posted by: K-E at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (cqABU)

350
2 hours to lift off!!!!

Be there or be square!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (iQIUe)

351 "And then, as said above, it'll be time for hookers and blow."

I am STILL not getting adequate credit for my suggestion of a David Vitter - Hunter Biden national unity ticket, by the way.

You would barely even have to hire ad copywriters. Piece of cake.

"No matter who you vote for this year, Washington, D.C. is going to still be full of hookers and blow. At least we're going to level with you about it."

And then they both bend down and Hoover up a couple of fat lines off of a svelte call girl's derriere.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 08, 2016 02:46 PM (noWW6)

352 So Yellowstone Caldera is going to rely on the old smoke-filled earth methods of the past, huh?

---

i'm predicting pyrocastic flow wins in a landslide

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:46 PM (R8ea6)

353 Cruz's entire strategy is to test Rush's hypothesis
that there is a giant untapped pool of conservative voters that won't
vote for the moderate types like McCain and Romney, but will vote for a
principled conservative such as himself.

If Cruz is wrong, then conservatism has truly lost in this country.

But if Cruz is right, then we might actually see some conservative reforms in this country.

But with Trump, either way, conservative loses. There is no upside from a conservative POV.


Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (+B4Qh)


Or, as it is in virtually EVERY FREAKIN' ELECTION EVAR IN THE HISTORY OF EVAR it's a popularity contest, and as unpopular as Cruz is, it won't matter what he says or does.

Conservatism won't win or lose with this guy. It's silly to say it will, but then silly is par for the course these days, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2016 02:46 PM (TOk1P)

354
I'm not your errand-girl. Google or Bing it yourself.

Posted by: Y-not

>>>>>>


nice

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 02:46 PM (PtXTn)

355 KASICH VOTER! KASICH VOTER!!!



*ewoks swarm out of the trees with clubs and spears*

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (xuouz)
===========================================

Actually I voted for Undesignated Delegate. I felt that person best represents me.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (dFi94)

356 Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:41 PM (wAtVh)


yeah, worked for mccain though , right ?

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (c6/9Q)

357 "If that means we get Trump hitting the Searchlight Strangler in the face with a chair, all of this will have been worth it."


I would need a cigarette after that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (LA7Cm)

358
I'd sooner vote for Happy Gilmore.


I'd sooner vote for Gary Gilmore.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (X6fMO)

359 *flamethrows thread*

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (mf5HN)

360 Nood awesomely awesome economy up

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (mEZce)

361 315 So the ballerina at UT was killed by a hobo. Who could have seen that coming except anyone who's ever been to Austin.
Posted by: Lauren at April 08, 2016 02:42 PM (hbefS)
***
Given what we know about hate-facts, that's no surprise.

If this sort of nonsense keeps up, in 20 years, people will be begging for a ruthless dictator, when a sensible manager could have handled the problem ten years ago.

he's 17, but I hope he gets the needle, or beaten to death in prison, but chances are, he'll outlive us all, the demon in flesh.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (lutOX)

362 341
He can bring out the base, which is more than what Romney did.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

Romney got more votes than McCain.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 08, 2016 02:45 PM (FkBIv)

Complete conjecture: Perhaps many of the moderate "republicans" voted for TFG in order to say "I'm a republican, but even I voted for Obama".

Just a crazy idea. No data or even anecdotes to support.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (wAtVh)

363 But with Trump, either way, conservative loses. There is no upside from a conservative POV.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (+B4Qh)

Truecons like yourself have morphed "conservative" into an identity instead of an ideology.

It's envy of the tight ship the left runs, bending their entire constituency to their whim with race, gender, and sexuality wedges and unremitting enforcement of conformity on the issues.

So I've decided I'm no longer a conservative, and I look forward to building a new political identity away from the salted ashes and rubble of the failure of "conservatives."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (xuouz)

364 You do have to sleep occasionally.

---
Is there something wrong with sleeping with hookers?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (R8ea6)

365 "The government shutdown was a failed piece of political grandstanding that didn't affect the budget and was framed as evil Republicans laying seige to the kindly, benevolent social workers of Washington DC, who just wanted to pay scientists to discover a cure for cancer and make sure black babies are getting nutrition. It ended up being a disaster."
----

I don't buy into this at all. It wasn't a disaster politically like the GOPe talking heads were saying it would be at the time. One year later the GOP held more seats at the federal and state level since the 1920s!

Posted by: Serenity Now! at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (BDZWU)

366 "Yes, this is your golden boy, who also loses in a head-to-head matchup with Clinton sans one poll by 3 points."

Cruz was actually two points ahead of Clinton in the RCP polling average back in February (I don't think Romney was ever ahead of Obama). If he was ahead once, he can be again.

Posted by: Jon at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (HA+/6)

367 I thank you for your support!


Posted by: Jim Gilmore at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (+B4Qh)


Never. Gets. Old.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (TOk1P)

368 If this sort of nonsense keeps up, in 20 years, people will be begging for a ruthless dictator,
==========================================


Yep. I've read a couple of books about that.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (dFi94)

369 ---

Is there something wrong with sleeping with hookers?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (R8ea6)

Do you mean sleeping with them or like, actually sleeping with them?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2016 02:49 PM (pUDQf)

370 He looks and sounds frail.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)

I watched him answer questions in WI before the primary and he sounded awful and most of his answers were him just rambling on with little coherence.

Trump sent Palin in his place in WI and she was awful. Shrill with a fake cheerleader's rah-rah mouthing the same scripted nonsense. It was embarrassing and the audience barely responded to her.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2016 02:49 PM (oiNtH)

371 And I would have voted for Walker in CO, and after that Perry, and ... Fiorina?... Jindal?

They were all gone by the time the caucus was held here. And also, I hadn't declared a party last years, so I couldn't caucus. The state is kind of messed up, right now.

The Republicans in this state gave that throbbing middle finger toward the establishment last cycle over some bickering with the way the caucusing is held, so now they "opt out" and the caucusing is just for show-case purpose only. I truly don't understand it.

The delegates are figuring this out among themselves. And if they're dumping Trump for Cruz, I'll consider taking down that noose I have in the garage.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 02:49 PM (xpcdU)

372 >>If Cruz is wrong, then conservatism has truly lost in this country.

But if Cruz is right, then we might actually see some conservative reforms in this country.

But with Trump, either way, conservative loses. There is no upside from a conservative POV.


Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2016 02:44 PM (+B4Qh)<<The Big Lie is the line that if we only elect a "real conservative", the GOP will win.Bullshit. When in our history has that ever happened? Answer- never.You have to possess a lot more than just being a "real conservative" to win. You certainly have to be somewhat articulate and able to explain your self. OR be a Democrat and have the press do all the work for you.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:49 PM (O0lVq)

373 Geee, who are all these dedicated people working for someone who's "hated" in the Senate and supposedly has "no friends."

Remember when Trump was using this against Ted?

Now Trump's calling him the establishment.

Next week, Trump will claim Ted's a member of ISIS.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 02:49 PM (UBBWX)

374 359 *flamethrows thread*

Posted by: alexthechick - Destroyer of Gaia and Seductress of Savagery at April 08, 2016 02:47 PM (mf5HN)


*throws open cans of gasoline into the crowd*

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 08, 2016 02:50 PM (wB8Tg)

375 So I've decided I'm no longer a conservative, and I look forward to building a new political identity away from the salted ashes and rubble of the failure of "conservatives."


But this time it will be different , baby.

I'm a changed man.

I PROMISE!

Posted by: GOPe at April 08, 2016 02:50 PM (PtXTn)

376 Trashcan Man!

Cleveland! Cleveland! Trumpty Trumpty Trump!

MY LIFE FOR YOU!

(KA-BLAAAMMM)

Posted by: Jason M at April 08, 2016 02:50 PM (x1igP)

377 "Yes, this is your golden boy, who also loses in a head-to-head matchup with Clinton sans one poll by 3 points.

The only one winning that matchup? Weed smoking mardi gras head Kasich.

I'm a Cruz supporter. But if you don't truly believe a race in the hand of Mr. Nails on the Chalkboard Voice is "Romney, Part II with a Tilde", you're smoking something."

I think most of us a pretty clear that the odds of Cruz of Trump beating Clinton are poor. It is only that Cruz has a slightly better chance because he has shown the willingness to do the hard work necessary to win an election. Trump's chances are non-existant because he has been permanently defined at this point into a picture of all the worst characteristics that the left accuses Republicans of having. He is too far into the hole to claw himself out.

As for New York, neither Trump nor Cruz will win it in November.

Sadly, the Dems have fielded the worst candidate in their history, and the GOP response is going to be to lose to her spectacularly. It probably shows that America has turned the corner into that which we hoped could be avoided. Might as well accept it, it isn't like there is any place we can go that is better.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 08, 2016 02:50 PM (kBIIG)

378 Also, Trump has consistently not expanded his message.

Build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it.

Its really simple: just tax remittances at 1-2%, with that being refunded on your federal income tax: only illegals end up paying.

but no, Trump has to hold off for months, and let that be a punchline, and then when he finally does unveil his plan, its to ban remittances unless Mexico pays first...wahhhh? No way that is happening.

Oh, and he'll use an executive order. Nice. So he really will be right wing populist Obama.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 02:52 PM (UBBWX)

379 It is only that Cruz has a slightly better chance because he has shown the willingness to do the hard work necessary to win an election.

>>>

That would be true.

If he were, you know, winning an election.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 02:52 PM (PtXTn)

380 How many of those people booing Cruz in NY will vote D in November no matter who the R nominee is?


Liking Trump more than Cruz does not equal voting for Trump in November.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 08, 2016 02:52 PM (u0lmX)

381 Admittedly I'm a Cruz guy, but one thing about Cruz that people in Wisconsin mentioned was how different he was during his town hall than he was in the short media cuts he had previously been portrayed in.

Hell I don't know if it will really amount to anything, but:

The more in depth honest coverage that Cruz has gotten is showing someone that is a lot more identifiable with than the Cruz from say early Iowa.

Little stories like his day yesterday in the Orthodox Jewish community or the reason why he was late to his meeting with a local rabbi or the far better reception he was getting little further out-state in n
New York. I'm not saying the guy is a Reagan by any means, but IF he is the candidate it sure seems like there is a good opportunity for his likeables to rise.

Posted by: H Badger at April 08, 2016 02:52 PM (n/0Nw)

382 Pretty certain Cruz will not do well in the Northeast, or on the Left Coast. More to the point for me is how well the two will do in the general. There is one coming up in 6 months.
Both guys have huge vulnerabilities. The Democrat vote machine.... the GOP doesn't have that kind of army, and I cringe at this bloodbath going on.
If I didn't know better, it seems like all this is intentional.

Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2016 02:54 PM (sdxPm)

383 "The government shutdown was a failed piece of political grandstanding that didn't affect the budget and was framed as evil Republicans laying seige to the kindly, benevolent social workers of Washington DC, who just wanted to pay scientists to discover a cure for cancer and make sure black babies are getting nutrition. It ended up being a disaster."

----

And thus, the power of the purse is forever removed from the powers of the Congress.

So, what to do about that?

Have more shutdowns until people view it as normal and boring, and figure out nothing really bad happens.

p.s. Shutdown in 2013...banner year for Republicans in 2014. People outside of DC don't even remember what happened.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 02:55 PM (UBBWX)

384 what new voters is cruz attracting ?


Posted by: runner at April 08, 2016 02:40 PM (c6/9Q)

Conservative Constitutionalists and voters with a brain?Just a guess.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 02:55 PM (aRUb8)

385 Even if you're on board with Trump on ideology, it's clear he's one of these people that is surrounded by "yes" men and has no idea how to run a campaign.


he thinks he's going to be President with some tough talking tweets and red hats.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 08, 2016 02:55 PM (X2kar)

386 >>Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 08, 2016 02:50 PM (kBIIG)
<<

Honestly, there are days lately when I start believe that a hard-charging, dick stomping, no holds barred attack such as the one Trump will give Clinton is the right way to go.

Cruz is really starting to remind me of that soft-touch, effeminate, nice guy Romney approach. He sounds weak in delivery and insincere in words. It's like you want to shake him, turn him into The Raging Bull and scream wake the fuck up.

We're in the fight of our life and it just seems like Cruz wourl rather play Yahtzee.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:56 PM (O0lVq)

387 One other thing to add...Cruz has made it part of his discussions that he and Bernie Sanders agree quite a lot on the issues that are causing people to be pissed, but that they both have a completely different idea on how government should be involved.

He hasn't been scared to go into places he may not be the most popular. I would bet that there are going to be a huge amount of disaffected youth out there once Hillary is done fucking their candidate...may not lead to any votes, but Cruz can at least play the populist a hell of a lot better than Hillary.

At least at this point it can wishcast for that unicorn.

Its why I would love a Cruz versus Sanders...finally a real debate on which form of government you really want and Cruz would wipe the floor with him.

Posted by: H Badger at April 08, 2016 02:57 PM (n/0Nw)

388
Is this a thing?

I hope it's a thing.


http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=265855

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 08, 2016 02:35 PM (ptqRm)
------------------------

>>In a 2015 prison interview from Romania with reporter Matei Rosca for Pando.com, Lazar told Rosca that, "I used to read [Clinton's] memos for six or seven hours ... and then do the gardening."

Could that be a thing?

Posted by: iforgot at April 08, 2016 02:57 PM (pC96u)

389 Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 02:55 PM (aRUb

are they new to voting ? have they been staying home ?

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2016 02:57 PM (c6/9Q)

390 Cruz will do better in California than people imagine.

look at the last primary: Kashkari beat the Trump-like guy who tried to insinuate Kashkari was for Sharia Law.

Trump, if he was serious, would need teams out now getting his Democrats and Independent supporters to register as GOP.

(Actually Cruz, too. I re-registered as GOP just for this once in a lifetime chance my vote will count.)

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 02:59 PM (UBBWX)

391 I'd vote for just about anyone against HRC.

The part of that Buckley aphorism about the first 100 names in the Boston telephone directory being better to run the country than the Harvard faculty? It is precisely because they are more-or-less random. They key point is if you give power to those who desire it the most, and climb on top of someone else's back and claw out someone else's eyes, that person is far more dangerous than someone who is otherwise disinterested in power.

This is why, in the real world, monarchy is bad on paper, but can be Not Terrible in stable, ordinary times.

Of the few people I wouldn't vote for against HRC would be someone else with, let-us-say, similar grandiose personality disorders combined with an addiction to fantasy and braggadocio.

Trump actually may not be worse than Hillary -- he MIGHT not be worse -- but with Hillary I am 100% against her and always will be. If I were to vote "for" a casino-owning game-show host, then somehow my consent is all tied up in his folly, and he claims he has "support."

This deal keeps looking worse all the time.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 02:59 PM (xpcdU)

392 Honestly, there are days lately when I start believe that a hard-charging, dick stomping, no holds barred attack such as the one Trump will give Clinton is the right way to go.





The problem is, Trump usually hits himself more times than who he's targeting.

Most of his gaffes are completely self-inflicted and have nothing to with his real opponent.

I don't mind scorched-earth tactics, I welcome it, but that's not enough and I really think his style ends up being self-defeating.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 08, 2016 03:00 PM (X2kar)

393 I would rather see Cruz shred Clinton in debates - piece by piece, then grind the pieces into mush - than Trump try to blowhard his way through. She will be ready for Trump's attacks. Cruz will destroy her.

Posted by: Jason M at April 08, 2016 03:00 PM (x1igP)

394 "Honestly, there are days lately when I start believe that a hard-charging, dick stomping, no holds barred attack such as the one Trump will give Clinton is the right way to go."

Yes, I too would love to see this.

Too bad Trump wasted his chances with stupid re-tweets, and refusing to learn a tiny amount of policy.

Oh, and comparing Carson to a child molestor and calling Ted a liar. Really smart moves.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 03:01 PM (UBBWX)

395 are they new to voting ? have they been staying home ?
Posted by: runner


I'll take " Conservative Electoral Mythology" for 1000, Alex.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 03:01 PM (PtXTn)

396 The deciding factor was that I have never missed an election since Reagan. I didn't want to break my streak. I voted for neither Cruz or Trump.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 08, 2016 02:43 PM (dFi94)


No, not Kasich!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster Bravely supporting kittens at April 08, 2016 03:02 PM (uURQL)

397 That said, Trump might surprise a lot of people by being a non-sore loser, especially if he begins to realize that his management team let him down.

Trump could have been soooo awesome.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 03:02 PM (UBBWX)

398 I don't even know how important the debates really are.

Romney destroyed Obama in the debate and Kerry destroyed Bush, neither times did it change the outcome.

Even if Trump gets a bunch of zingers in there, if people hate him, it's not going to change their mind.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 08, 2016 03:02 PM (X2kar)

399 .You have to possess a lot more than just being a
"real conservative" to win. You certainly have to be somewhat articulate
and able to explain your self. OR be a Democrat and have the press do
all the work for you.



Posted by: Marcus T at April 08, 2016 02:49 PM (O0lVq)
You're conflating Conservative for Constitutionalist. Adherence to the Constitution is what will change the direction of the country.Have you ever heard Trump even mention the Constitution?

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 03:02 PM (aRUb8)

400 31
If the GOPe had tried to figure out why Trump was gaining popularity
instead of mocking him and his supporters they might have killed his
candidacy in its crib. It now looks to be too late.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (kTF2Z)
They knew why - they like it, though.

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 08, 2016 03:03 PM (43OZ6)

401 Oh, and comparing Carson to a child molestor and calling Ted a liar. Really smart moves.

You seem far more butthurt than Carson over that.

I predict that Ted will be Trump's VP.

Both men understand that this is pro-wrestling. Words mean nothing in politics.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 03:04 PM (PtXTn)

402 Trump may remain a factor in the general even if he loses the primary. He may come around to stump.

He also may still win.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 03:04 PM (UBBWX)

403 That said, Trump might surprise a lot of people by being a non-sore loser, especially if he begins to realize that his management team let him down.

Trump could have been soooo awesome.

Posted by: Harun



My hope, and it's probably complete nonsense, is that Trump has some buyer's remorse about all this and bows out if he comes up short.

Is he really going to liquidate everything and self fund? He has to see these polls where he gets slaughtered by Hillary. I'm sure he has done his own to see for himself if they're true.

Like I said, complete nonsense, but he might surprise us.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 08, 2016 03:06 PM (X2kar)

404 "You seem far more butthurt than Carson over that. "

Yes, I'd imagine people who donated to Carson and supported him also feel unhappy.

This is why Trump was wrong to do that.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 03:06 PM (UBBWX)

405 I predict that Ted will be Trump's VP.

Both men understand that this is pro-wrestling. Words mean nothing in politics.
Posted by: Mortimer


I would bet quite a bit of money against that.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 08, 2016 03:07 PM (X2kar)

406 Trump needs 494 to get to 1237. Assuming, of course, that Cruz's imposing competency advantage doesn't lead to further a further loss of some portion of the delegates accidentally awarded him by an ill-advised consultation of the voting populace.

Assume he doesn't get 51+% of NY. Call it 70 delegates. Assume he wins PA (71) CA (172) NJ (51) and 75% of CT's proportional delegates (21)

That's 385.

DE, MD, RI, NE, WV, OR, WA, MT, NM, SD = 295.
He'll need just under half of those to hit his number.

The wildcard: can he win Indiana and its 57 WTA delegates? If Cruz wins Indiana he can probably hang on for a brokered convention. All the northeastern states I mentioned above HAVE to go Trump's way.

Let's try to enjoy the fight for the cabin of the nosediving plane that is the USA, and, if possible, each other's company.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:06 PM (xuouz
Like it was said before, PA only awards 17 for state win, rest are unbound. Cali awards very small amount for state win and the rest are based on districts, a lot are Cruz leaning and if Katshit is still zombified at that time he may even take one or two so there's no way in hell Trump takes 179 delegates. It's going to Cleveland without a decision made.

Posted by: s-man at April 08, 2016 03:07 PM (ZL7LN)

407
Some people excuse Trump's failings by saying "he's learning on the fly."

How is running a campaign any different than running...let's call it an ad campaign a company might carry out? Surely the Trumpinator can manage that?

Great businessman that he is and all. It'll be yuge, YUGE I tell you!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at April 08, 2016 03:09 PM (1hM1d)

408 That said, Trump might surprise a lot of people by being a non-sore loser, especially if he begins to realize that his management team let him down.


Yeah...his Wisconsin supporters are still waiting for at least a thank you for voting for him.

Its not his management team...he's just a shitty loser.

Posted by: H Badger at April 08, 2016 03:10 PM (n/0Nw)

409 "Even if Trump gets a bunch of zingers in there, if people hate him, it's not going to change their mind."

Trump has been pretty good attaching labels to people.

Except...I'm not sure the Lyin' Ted thing is working and his "incompetent Hillary" isn't that good either.

Low Energy Bush and Little Marco were brutally good.

Maybe Lyin' Ted works, but just not on me.

Incompetent Hillary seems too weak.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 03:12 PM (UBBWX)

410 That said, Trump might surprise a lot of people by being a non-sore loser, especially if he begins to realize that his management team let him down.


Yeah...his Wisconsin supporters are still waiting for at least a thank you for voting for him.

Its not his management team...he's just a shitty loser.
Posted by: H Badger



The real question, does the man really care about these issues or does he just want the glory of being Leader of the Free World.

If Cruz doesnt get the nomination, he's not going to try and start some write in campaign to get Hillary elected as a middle finger.

But Trump?

Posted by: Jeepers at April 08, 2016 03:12 PM (X2kar)

411 "For me the allure of Trump was MY anger with the Establishment, projected. Then I thought about it, and switched to Cruz. Because my anger shouldn't be anywhere near the White House.
Posted by: kraken at April 08, 2016 02:36 PM (sdxPm)"

I think that describes a lot of us here. It definitely describes me.

Posted by: holygoat at April 08, 2016 03:14 PM (DbBV5)

412 Any Trump bashers here know how Cruz is going to get over 80% of the remaining delegates, even worse after Trump takes NY? How weak is Cruz if he can't beat a guy whose campaign is in "disarray"?

Posted by: George Moore at April 08, 2016 03:19 PM (Bcqod)

413 397 That said, Trump might surprise a lot of people by being a non-sore loser, especially if he begins to realize that his management team let him down.

Trump could have been soooo awesome.

Posted by: Harun at April 08, 2016 03:02 PM (UBBWX)

====

I don't know why people hold out much hope. I had a very low opinion of Trump's character based on his 30+ years in media. I said, okay, let's see if he has more substance to him.

He has behaved consistently with how he always has. Similar to how he acts on WWE, TMZ, or his own game shows.

Your mileage may vary, but all I thought is, oh, well, Trump is just exactly who I always thought he was. I don't why I expected anything else.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 03:21 PM (xpcdU)

414 "The real question, does the man really care about these issues or does he just want the glory of being Leader of the Free World"

Maybe he wants sexytimes with his daughter in all the WH bedrooms.

Posted by: Jason M at April 08, 2016 03:23 PM (x1igP)

415 43 So this is what "winning so much we'll get sick of it" looks like?

O/T anyone else having trouble using Chrome on Conservative sites lately. It keeps crashing on Breitbart, here, and TheBlaze. But Brave works just fine.
Posted by: Iblis at April 08, 2016 01:53 PM (rP2JJ)

=====

Breitbart is like getting run over by a Nascar, considering the amount of insane pop-ups, blipvert advertising on there.

If you use Chrome, I HIGHLY recommend a plugin called "Clearly" which turns it all into flat, readable text.

Firefox and Safari both have a reader function built in, and, I think the new Edge browser does as well.

Posted by: Leo Spaceman at April 08, 2016 03:23 PM (xpcdU)

416 MSNBC and National Review quoting Politico?

Ok.

Trump only does relatively well in open primaries. I think Rush put him at 35%.

I think it's interesting that Cruz picked up half the support that the polls were giving to Kasich in Wisconsin. That implies that Kasich pulls from Cruz in R states and from Trump in D states.

Posted by: just saying at April 08, 2016 03:26 PM (I0sxh)

417 "If there's an open primary, why does anyone think that hundreds and hundreds of your generic Republican delegates are going to gravitate to Cruz?"

It seems the Trump dead-enders understand the process about as well as their hero.

Delegates aren't DC gravy trainers. They are the grassroots activists who've been fighting the Dems for decades. Even the ones not specifically put in place by Cruz are way more sympathetic to him than to Paul Ryan or any other GOPe fantasy (although at this point it's basically only the Trumpers pushing the idea). Hell, even Nate Silver understands better than Trump: 53eig.ht/1SQ0raW


Not only will Cruz win easily on the second ballot, by the time the convention rolls around there won't even be any suspense or surprise about it.

Posted by: someone at April 08, 2016 03:30 PM (04yCz)

418 "I'm not sure the Lyin' Ted thing is working"

I'm pretty sure the media will pick up the "cheated on wife" once it's Cruz vs Hillary.

Cruz's weak denial. The media took out Herman Cain by claiming a prostitute was his girlfriend. Cruz's core support won't hold against those kind of smears.

Posted by: just saying at April 08, 2016 03:35 PM (HSAmh)

419 ...win easily on the second ballot...

Some deal will probably be worked out to have a first ballot winner.

Posted by: just saying at April 08, 2016 03:38 PM (HSAmh)

420 35 I thought New York was the only one that mattered?

Well, if Trump doesn't even carry his home state YUGELY he's basically upgefucht.

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 08, 2016 03:43 PM (Kucy5)

421 Trump (Drumpf) is German for "Beeblebrox," right?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 08, 2016 03:45 PM (Kucy5)

422
Sour grapes. Enjoy your trump-hate thread.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 01:51 PM (xuouz)


Are you contesting the premise of the post or are you just mad that people are saying less than glowing things abut teh Donald?

Posted by: redbanzai at April 08, 2016 03:47 PM (3JA/M)

423 Well, I didn't read the whole thing, but it appeared from what I did read that although people had criticisms of both Trump and Cruz they stayed away from personal attacks of the supporters. Yay!
That or people are taking a breather before they start swinging again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2016 03:49 PM (w4NZ8)

424 Ha! Cruz is inarticulate now?

Yeah, all those lousy, inarticulate Supreme Court briefs that got laughed out of the Courtroom... oh, wait...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 08, 2016 04:00 PM (Kucy5)

425 Some deal will probably be worked out to have a first ballot winner.

Posted by: just saying at April 08, 2016 03:38 PM (HSAmh)

Probably not.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 08, 2016 04:01 PM (3JA/M)

426 "A senior adviser with the Trump campaign told Breitbart News that among the many unpledged delegates in Colorado are those that are for Trump, but have strategically remained officially unpledged."

Yyyyyyyeaaaaah......

Posted by: richard mcenroe at April 08, 2016 04:04 PM (Kucy5)

427 This used to be a conservative blog where you could go to read bad things about the liberal and communist candidates written in a humorous way. I miss that blog. Now we just hate on our own candidates here. We deserve to lose.

Posted by: Ironwood at April 08, 2016 04:09 PM (WLOZI)

428 Yes.

Posted by: G6loq at April 08, 2016 04:16 PM (zj+JZ)

429
Truecons like yourself have morphed "conservative" into an identity instead of an ideology.



It's envy of the tight ship the left runs, bending their entire
constituency to their whim with race, gender, and sexuality wedges and
unremitting enforcement of conformity on the issues.



So I've decided I'm no longer a conservative, and I look forward to
building a new political identity away from the salted ashes and rubble
of the failure of "conservatives."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 08, 2016 02:48 PM (xuouz)

I know I"m late to respond to this, but this is just not true. I'm not even sure what you mean by conservatism as an "identity". Conservatism is an ideology based mainly in limited government, free markets, strong national defense, and strong moral values. This has the potential to appeal to anyone regardless of your personal standing in any walk of life. Are you saying you are going to change your core convictions because people that you don't like are calling themselves "conservative"?

Posted by: Jim Gilmore at April 08, 2016 04:19 PM (+B4Qh)

430 427
This used to be a conservative blog where you could go to read bad
things about the liberal and communist candidates written in a humorous
way. I miss that blog. Now we just hate on our own candidates here. We
deserve to lose.

Posted by: Ironwood at April 08, 2016 04:09 PM (WLOZI)

AOSHQ was a cult...a polite cult?Go ahead. Say something good about the candidates.

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 04:28 PM (aRUb8)

431 are they new to voting ? have they been staying home ?


Posted by: runner at April 08, 2016 02:57 PM (c6/9Q)
Yes.I know all of them and they told me that they always stayed home, so now they are new to voting.How did you know...do you know them too??

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 04:48 PM (aRUb8)

432 Shut up, Mimzey!!

Posted by: Nathan at April 08, 2016 01:52 PM (OD2ni)

I did just what you said, Nathan....

Posted by: Mimzey at April 08, 2016 04:51 PM (aRUb8)

433 9 Trump competency on display


Why do people use this word? How does it improve on "competence"?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 08, 2016 01:47 PM (1xUj/)

As I understand it, competencies are the aspects of competence, and so this should be Trump Incompetence on display, as his campaign demonstrates again its lack of a core competency

But it is entirely possible this notion comes from filling out to many HR forms.

Posted by: Old Toby at April 08, 2016 04:51 PM (PjWy4)

434 Are you saying you are going to change your core convictions because people that you don't like are calling themselves "conservative"?

No Jim.

He said that he would change his label, 'conservative' because people who have completely different core beliefs are calling themselves conservatives.

You Cruzbots are really good at reading minds and putting words in people's mouths.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 08, 2016 05:13 PM (nVQ5J)

435 Don't worry, this gold-plated dumpster fire will learn to fly just as soon as it sails off the cliff in November.

If we can't trust Donald Trump, who can we trust?

Posted by: TallDave at April 08, 2016 05:50 PM (74ZYB)

436 Cruz married a cousin:
http://tinyurl.com/zz8aznu

Not that there is anything wrong with that!

Posted by: G6loq at April 08, 2016 07:12 PM (zj+JZ)

437 Ah. An MSNBC link and a NRO link that quotes a Politico story.

Objective.

Posted by: FOAM at April 08, 2016 08:52 PM (7l0Lm)

438 Objective is clear.

Posted by: G6loq at April 08, 2016 09:18 PM (zj+JZ)

439 The Atlantic/PRR Trump +6
TIPP Trump +7
McClatchy/Marist Trump +5
Pew Research Trump +9
PPP Trump +10
Reuters Trump +10
Trumps down 5 (avg) from his all time high ~20 days ago.
Cruz is my second choice.

Posted by: jacke at April 08, 2016 10:31 PM (i8Shl)

440 Electoral and primary politics are somewhat like a tennis match.

You don't have to win every game or every point to win a match. Some games (like when your opponent serves) you may mostly go thru the motions. If you win a few early points in these games, you might work hard enough to make your opponent wear themselves down to win 'their' game -- possibly you'll get lucky and win that game.

Mostly, it's all about saving up energy for the big games and points (usually when you serve) that you figure to win easiest, plus one or two where you might get 'lucky'...

Posted by: Seipherd at April 10, 2016 12:39 AM (GSjVv)

441 Man I gotta say... 10 years ago on this blog I thought the "other" side were the only ones who were hypocritical and SHALLOW. I guess I was wrong.

My donations to this site will be no longer.

I sit and read all the smarmy fuck head posts about bashing Trump supporters and it really gives me pause, because, for a LONG time now I really didn't think our side would have so much in-fighting that we would COMPLETELY FUCK OURSELVES OUT OF GETTING OUR COUNTRY BACK, but I was VERY wrong.

So congratulations on stealing the election in CO, and I hope Cruz (whom helped swindle CO voters JUST LIKE OBAMA DID when he ran 'unopposed' in Chicago. Realize that a man who claims to be so righteous while knowingly FUCKING the actual VOTERS, will ONE DAY FUCK YOU TOO.

Goodbye

Posted by: Triple Twenty at April 10, 2016 07:25 PM (ficNf)

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