Bill Clinton: Unlike When I Was President, The World Is Coming Apart Right Now

These sorts of stories are part of a general narrative. The narrative that accompanies them is that Bill Clinton keeps looking for ways to take shots at Obama and undermine him.

The idea lurks in the background that this is all part of a piece with his "racist" campaign against Obama in 2008, and that he's never gotten over it.

Perhaps. But I can't help but notice that this a very thin-skinned, Obama-protecting narrative, that seems likely to have flowed directly from Barack Obama's own cramped, self-justifying, self-pitying brain, and the similar hive-brains of his acolytes, ever ready to defend the Great Black Dope from slights to his person whether they actually occurred or not.

Previously, in early March (was that a century ago, or is that just me?), Bill Clinton had "trashed" Barack Obama's economy, as the Federalist put it.

During a campaign stop for his wife in North Carolina on Monday, former president Bill Clinton trashed President Obama for painting a "pretty picture" of economic recovery that doesn’t line up with reality.

"Millions and millions and millions and millions of people look at that pretty picture of America [Obama] painted and they cannot find themselves in it to save their lives," Clinton said.

"People are upset, frankly; they're anxiety-ridden, they’re disoriented, because they don’t seem themselves in that picture," he said. "Hillary is running for president to put every single American in the picture President Obama painted."

Video at the link.

Then, on March 21, Bill Clinton decried the "awful legacy" of the past eight years. (And the seven years before that, he added.)

"But if you believe we can all rise together, if you believe we’ve finally come to the point where we can put the awful legacy of the last eight years behind us and the 7 years before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash, then you should vote for her," Clinton said.

Video at the link. Quote is from the next following link.

Now is that Clinton taking a sneaky, bitter-defeated-rival shot at Obama, or is that Bill Clinton just noticing things that are actually true?

In politics, it is the rule that you do not notice things that are true if they happen to undermine your party's narrative and political position, so this could easily fall into both categories: Bill Clinton just saying things that are obvious and incontrovertibly true, and being a dick getting political payback by saying something obvious and incontrovertibly true.

With this background, Clinton now turns to what a disaster Obama's foreign policy record is, though he'd better be careful -- his wife has a co-author credit on this.*

During an appearance in Philadelphia, Clinton said, "Unlike when I became president, a lot of things are coming apart around the world now."

I don't know if Bill Clinton is really going out of his way to put down Obama or if it's just... unavoidable. How can you talk about the last seven years as anything other than a disaster on all fronts -- economic, security, social?

And bear in mind the general model of any election is that someone runs as a continuity candidate, versus someone who runs as a change agent. But that is only possible if there is something that people actually want to continue the, um, continuity of.

Hillary Clinton is forced to play a half-in, half-out game on continuity, because Obama's braindead zombie cultists absolutely demand that he be shown that "respect."

But she's also running as a "change" candidate -- and this will be much more obvious in the general election, when she doesn't have to appease the Obama Minions as much.

The point is, both candidates, whoever they may turn out to be, will be running as "change" candidates in the general election -- implicitly repudiating eight years of Obama's diastrous misrule.

Because he's a bad president who's a prisoner of his relentless dogmatism for his bad, musty-smell-of-1968 ideas.

And Bill Clinton is really only preparing the field for that turn in general campaign season.

Reality is coming, Obama.

* Assuming he wants his wife to be president, which some people doubt. I do think he wants his wife to be president, because it ultimately aggrandizes his own ego. No one will doubt that Hillary only became president due to her husband, and Hillary would represent the Clinton Restoration to the throne.


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1 Hello

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2016 03:16 PM (HGc3Y)

2 They hate each other

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2016 03:16 PM (kTF2Z)

3 Fell into this one, I'll get the others

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2016 03:16 PM (HGc3Y)

4 I sometimes wonder if as conservatives we would just be better off making the Democrat Party more centrist than trying to influence Republican races.

I don't like Bill Clinton, but if the Democrat Party had embraced Clintonian Centrism, this country would be so much better off and the Stupid Party losing wouldn't be such a big deal.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:17 PM (wM5Gx)

5 Every ounce of effort they spend attacking each other is effort they're not spending attacking our side.

I don't care if this is n-dimensional chess or just petty rivalry. It's good for us, and we need to look for ways to continue pitting them against each other.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 03:17 PM (KUaJL)

6 This is why I think the email scandal will kill Hillary!'s campaign. The Obama's have to realize that if the Clintons take the White House they will destroy Obama's legacy in order to further their own.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 07, 2016 03:18 PM (LUG6K)

7 I don't like Bill Clinton, but if the Democrat Party had embraced Clintonian Centrism, this country would be so much better off and the Stupid Party losing wouldn't be such a big deal.
Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:17 PM (wM5Gx)

Clintonian Centrism was only a thing because the republican congress made it be a thing. Read the quotes. Bill isn't running to the right of Obama, he's running to the left.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 03:19 PM (KUaJL)

8 I'm thinking that the Clintons don't believe they can successfully ride Commander Four Putt's cape to victory.

That and their long-running, petty feud.

Posted by: douger at April 07, 2016 03:19 PM (eM6QK)

9 when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash,

I can't even.

No regulation?

Even for BS Billie, this is just the livin' end.

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 07, 2016 03:19 PM (XdbLA)

10 Hillary may be a Clinton, but she won't be a centrist.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 07, 2016 03:19 PM (FQKBL)

11 Is Newt coming back too?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 07, 2016 03:19 PM (FkBIv)

12 WTC I, Bosnian War, all those bombings in Africa and Saudi Arabia, Intifada -- what were those, Bill?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 03:19 PM (iQIUe)

13 Bill, those weren't the Good Ol' Days- the girls on that island weren't even born yet!

Posted by: t-bird at April 07, 2016 03:20 PM (3U4+k)

14 Oh fuck you.

If you're spent as much time actually doing your job instead of using fat chicks as humidors, there would be at least 3,000 people still alive and two buildings still standing.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 03:20 PM (rlfds)

15 Hillary! is such a strong role-model for the Modern Womyn. She needs a man to become President by riding his coat-tails.

*thud*

As for Gaylord, Reality cares not about your ego. When the world burns, Reality will reach out and pluck you from your supposed sanctuary like a nut from a shell. But you are not a nut, you are a quivering mewling mass of protoplasm.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 03:21 PM (qjrXu)

16
Bill does not give a shit if his ugly wife is elected or not. The only reason he's campaigning for her is to get old panties thrown at himself and make hookups with groupies.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:21 PM (vgEoS)

17 Assuming he wants his wife to be president, which some people doubt.

I think that's an unknowable, like whether there is life after death and what do girls talk about when we're not around.

If we're playing Presidential psychology, I think Clinton wants to undermine the senseless fawning over Obama and restore his image as an actually good President.

I know Clinton could have been more proactive about Al Qaeda and 9/11 lies partly at his feet, but we did have eight years of peace and prosperity.

You don't even have to point at what he did to ensure that. He happened to be there when the tech revolution made everyone richer and more efficient. But he passed the first test, don't fuck it up.

Obama fucks the things up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2016 03:21 PM (1xUj/)

18 @5: "
Every ounce of effort they spend attacking each other is effort they're not spending attacking our side."

That's ok, "our" side is more than making up for it.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 07, 2016 03:21 PM (rznWS)

19 If Republicans were smart, they'd be cleverly narrowcasting Bill's repeated disses of Historic First right back into the black community, to build discontent.

Unfortunately, Republicans are not smart.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:22 PM (noWW6)

20

BILLY HAS AIDS DEMENTIA. I GAVE IT TO HIM. THE AIDS, NOT THE DEMENTIA. I WAS DRESSED UP LIKE A TRANNY AND HE RAPED ME.

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE AIDS DEMENTIA at April 07, 2016 03:22 PM (qul7b)

21 I don't know that its a great idea to tweak the guy who holds the future of your graft machine in his DOJ hands.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 03:22 PM (/tuJf)

22 I was the hardest workin' POTUS ever according to experts (me).

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at April 07, 2016 03:22 PM (d6LpE)

23 No one will doubt that Hillary only became president due to her husband, and Hillary would represent the Clinton Restoration to the throne.
Posted by: Ace at 03:15 PM


Savage.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:22 PM (xuouz)

24 Obama + Reality = Obama's picture on the new $1 trillion bill in 2021.

Posted by: Furious George at April 07, 2016 03:23 PM (3GAnN)

25 I don't want to watch video.
If we had a candidate that used all the info out there about the JEF 4 or & 8 years ago, we wouldn't be in this mess.

None dared for fear of being called a racist. Now our U. S. Is more divided by race because of The JEF. Good job, O.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:23 PM (sj3Ax)

26 Apologies if someone already parsed this, but I've got that oohoohooh call on me! thing going:

Unlike when I became president, a lot of things are coming apart around the world now

"Unlike when I BECAME president": this means to me that Bill's saying things were wrapped up pretty tight world-wise in 1992, after 12 years of Reagan/GHW Bush.

Saddam (temporarily) contained, USSR out of the global revolution business; Bill lucked into some fairly tranquil times to be presidentin'.

Of course, that could depend on the meaning of 'became' in Clintopia, right?

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 07, 2016 03:23 PM (XdbLA)

27 Revisionism, ala Clinton. I remember the goings on from 96- 2000, champ.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 03:24 PM (sdxPm)

28
Clintonian Centrism was only a thing because the republican congress made it be a thing. Read the quotes. Bill isn't running to the right of Obama, he's running to the left.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously


________


It definitely played a part. but even before that, Clinton at least campaigned as a moderate Democrat. The absolute opposite of a Michael Dukakis NE liberal. Tough on crime etc

Even looking at how Hillary campaigned in 2008, she was out there against driver's licenses for illegals and talking about how they're stealing jobs in the Home Depot parking lot.

Obama really shattered the model, the Presidency and the Democrat Party will never be the same.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:24 PM (wM5Gx)

29 who relly gives a shit? it's a fuckin dinosar for god's sake. he can diaf.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 03:24 PM (ucDmr)

30 @10: "Hillary may be a Clinton, but she won't be a centrist."

The "center" is much further left than it used to be - the ostensible right keeps pushing it that way, and the left keeps dragging it that way.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 07, 2016 03:24 PM (rznWS)

31 Bill Clinton was President after some wonk of a naif said we had seen "The End of History."

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 03:24 PM (qjrXu)

32 Excellent post.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:24 PM (mcm0N)

33 Ace,
I'm not at all a racist, just that there's a fear of being called one terrified Romney & McCain.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:25 PM (sj3Ax)

34 How can you talk about the last seven years as anything other than a disaster on all fronts -- economic, security, social?

Oh, we have our ways, child. Indeed, we have our ways.

Posted by: NYT, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, LAT, Globe, MSNBC, et al. at April 07, 2016 03:25 PM (8ZskC)

35 " I don't know that its a great idea to tweak the guy who holds the future of your graft machine in his DOJ hands."


No. Kidding.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 03:25 PM (LA7Cm)

36 As a side note, looking at this guy, I'd say his iniquities are showing, bigtime.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 03:25 PM (sdxPm)

37 We'll get right on covering this story, lol!!
- MSM

Oh PS, here's the 1000th story this week about how the GOP is tearing itself apart.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:26 PM (0LHZx)

38 35. Its a sign that negotiations are breaking down.

Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 03:26 PM (JTwsP)

39 "Clintonian Centrism"? Huh?


I mean, just leaving out the Stupidity and Ignorance that are at the core of this so-called centrism, why bother with it?


Clinton is a shallow obviously pscyho doofus who stumbled into office with 42% of the vote in America's first modern un-serious WTF who cares election, was a disaster in his first term, a laughing-stock really, who then rode the wave of idiotic indifference and laziness of a country enjoying an economic boom into a second term, where he was even more of a disaster, was steamrolled by an opposition Congress his idiocy helped create, and committed felonies in office which should have made him the first president removed from office.


Oh - aside from degrading the country and the office with his personal behavior, which is separate.


And he's an ignorant mediocrity who turns very nasty the instant this baffling sycophantic misinformed treatment of him stops.


"Trickle-down economics and no regulation" - OK, somebody explain to me how this idiot is any less cretinous than Sheila Jackson Lee or Babs Boxer or Patty Murray or Nancy Pelosi.


On second thought, don't bother.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 07, 2016 03:26 PM (QDnY+)

40 Do the Clintons have a copy of that speech the LA Times refuses to release? Photos from Chicago of Gaylord in the bath houses? Michelle unmasked?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 03:27 PM (qjrXu)

41 Bill does not give a shit if his ugly wife is elected or not. The only reason he's campaigning for her is to get old panties thrown at himself and make hookups with groupies.
Posted by: Douchepickle



Why in the world does he want this?

I just don't get it, we know how he's wired, why not divorce Hillary once your Presidency was over and live like Caligula?

Whatever trappings of power from being the spouse of a politician, you've had it all, why not move on?

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:27 PM (wM5Gx)

42 I understand the urge to bash Bill Clinton's presidency, but at least Guam wasn't in danger of tipping over.

Posted by: Furious George at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (3GAnN)

43 what are the kardashians doing these days? they about as important as the clinton's

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (ucDmr)

44 Bill Clinton was President after some wonk of a naif said we had seen "The End of History."

Fukiyama.

Gah! I bought it. We won the Cold War and it was going to stay won.

American capitalism was spreading across the globe. We had just kicked the shit out of the alleged 4th largest army in the world.

Pax Americana. Peace dividends.

*wipes away tear*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (1xUj/)

45 If he really wants to help her get elected, he'll croak.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (8WyYX)

46 "I don't know that its a great idea to tweak the guy who holds the future of your graft machine in his DOJ hands."


Bubba's going YOLO. Unleashed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (8ZskC)

47 Partial birth abortion, for one example, is a lot further left than I think (hope) a lot of Democrats would care to go.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (FQKBL)

48 I can't decide who would be worse between Bernie and Hillary. I'm leaning Hillary. But it's a bit like asking what's worse, brain cancer to lung cancer?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (0LHZx)

49 "He happened to be there when the tech revolution made everyone richer and more efficient."

By the way, with regard to "the tech revolution" producing ongoing miracles of productivity growth in America, well, it looks like that wall has been hit. And it ain't budging further. InstaTwitFuckFaceBookGram social media isn't actually resulting in any improvements in output.

A dour view of same from the UK financial press:

"Productivity - or GDP per worker/hour - is actually falling. 'US
companies are hiring people frantically because they are unable to get
more out of their existing workforce. This is not a good omen,' he said."

"Indeed not. It means the US economic
speed limit is collapsing, with dire implications for the debt
trajectory and the pension system. Business is soaking up labour slack
rather than investing in technology. The cycle will hit the inflationary
buffers sooner."

http://tinyurl.com/zg5ykfz

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (noWW6)

50 Why in the world does he want this?

I just don't get it, we know how he's wired, why not divorce Hillary once your Presidency was over and live like Caligula?

Whatever trappings of power from being the spouse of a politician, you've had it all, why not move on?



Why not? She has shit on him. That's why not.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (SvnHQ)

51
Do the Clintons have a copy of that speech the LA Times refuses to release? Photos from Chicago of Gaylord in the bath houses? Michelle unmasked?<<<
they clearly have something. Several somethings. Whether that's enough or not is hard to say.

Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (JTwsP)

52 Both Clintons are neck deep in enabling the kleptocracy that's running the show. They've gorged at the trough, and any assessment of the country made by them is poisoned by their avarice.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (sdxPm)

53
I'm trying to imagine what a continuity campaign would sound like this year. All I can come up with is "The windmill is almost finished! Don't let Farmer Jones tear it down."

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (pC96u)

54
Last 7 years a disaster??

Not a day goes by on CNBC without the mention of obama's record 77-month straight job growth, and the "longest bull market" ever.

Even the Republicans don't dispute this bullshit data. They love it.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (vgEoS)

55 Pax Americana. Peace dividends.

*wipes away tear*



Just because you can write a book doesn't mean that you're not full of shit.

Paul Ehrlich wrote lots of books.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (8ZskC)

56 If Hildabeast was president what would she do that Obama wouldn't?

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (HGc3Y)

57 33 Ace,
I'm not at all a racist, just that there's a fear of being called one terrified Romney & McCain.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:25 PM (sj3Ax)


You may be one of those conservative people in flyover country who only thinks they aren't racist, but in actuality, compared to New York based writers, is only one step removed from a Mandingo-beating plantation overseer.

Are you a Trump voter?

Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (Zs4uk)

58 rhomboid, may I inquire as to the most expedient way to subscribe to your newsletter?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (xuouz)

59 Seems like everyone wants to go back in time.

A reset.

The media and others have clamped down on any criticism of Obama--even comedic criticism is disallowed.

The tamp down has not allowed for the steam to escape and now it could explode from either end of the outer limits.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (mcm0N)

60 Bill is still pissed at Obama for the 2008 implication that the former is a racist. Also, don't think BC could care less about Hillary's campaign or whether she goes to prison or not.

As a matter of fact, a Hillary presidency would probably mess up BC's Mac-Daddy lifestyle--though, lately, he's looking like he no longer has the energy for it.

Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (ys2UW)

61 56 If Hildabeast was president what would she do that Obama wouldn't?
Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (HGc3Y)

_____

Have sex with women in the white house.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (0LHZx)

62 We had just kicked the shit out of the alleged 4th largest army in the world.

Even better, that army was equipped with all the latest mecha our biggest geopolitical rival produced, and our armed forces smashed it up like so many Chinese Tonka-Toy knockoffs.

Last exit on the Highway of Death, 1/64th of a mile!

Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (XdbLA)

63 I mean, just leaving out the Stupidity and Ignorance that are at the core of this so-called centrism, why bother with it?


Posted by: rhomboid


If you can't see the DRAMATIC difference between Bill Clinton and Obama as far as who's further Left, you're just not paying attention.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (wM5Gx)

64 I think Bill realizes the Hillary WILL BE indicted.
Therefore he has no reason to kiss Obama's ass.

Also Billy realizes that the Democrat Party he worked so hard to create is being destroyed by the communists, social just us bullies, hispanic and black racists.

Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (v0YLX)

65 Just because you can write a book doesn't mean that you're not full of shit.
Paul Ehrlich wrote lots of books.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (8ZskC)

It's the only "productive" thing Marxists even do.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (xuouz)

66 Don't worry, i have a re-reset button

Posted by: Hilary at April 07, 2016 03:31 PM (oGRue)

67 Are you a Trump voter?
Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2016 03:30 PM (Zs4uk)

____

What a stupid question. How can he be a Trump voter when no Trump voter knows how to read or write?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:31 PM (0LHZx)

68 Don't kid yourselves, people. Bill and Hill hate this country as much as Fredo does. All this country means to them is an opportunity to control and confiscate it's power and riches for themselves.

Posted by: Soona at April 07, 2016 03:31 PM (Fmupd)

69 The biggest departure from reality is when the Clinton's talk about Obama's Foreign Policy in the abstract, like it's some distant, inconceivable product of someone else.

Look at the reality we are living in. Take a better look at what The Hag actually stated and did when in office. It's one disaster after another(the ME and Egypt, Syria, etc. Russian Reset and the Ukraine anyone?).

Shit, she's responsible for the rise of IS with the policies she pursued in Iraq- the entire rush to "pull out" and the mission accomplished around that, against almost every piece of military advice offered. Every time they burn or torture people to death they should be hanging it around her fat ass like an albatross.

Instead we're talking about Trump's hair or his "shifting position on abortion or some stupid shit.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 03:32 PM (O0lVq)

70
You have that idiot Ben Stein out there saying no recession is coming; we're doing great economically, and unemployment is not 20-30% like Trump or others claim.

The brainwashing is complete. Everyone is in the obama-media-corporate tank these days.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:32 PM (vgEoS)

71 48 I can't decide who would be worse between Bernie and Hillary. I'm leaning Hillary. But it's a bit like asking what's worse, brain cancer to lung cancer?
Posted

Bernie might be better, because it appears the old wobbly has some sort of ethic. The Clintons are truly what I believe it was Sharpton said about them.... " all there is is an appetite".

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 03:32 PM (sdxPm)

72 Bill Clinton took the year to year trade status of China and created a permanent most favored designation for them. Looking back, 60, 000 plus American factories closed, and around 5, 000, 000 Americans lost their jobs. His response? Bush should have kept an eye on them. Keeping an eye on them was tbe purpose of annual reviews, and not making their trade status permanent.

But I waste my time and words, because half the population of this country is too dumb to add 2 + 2 together and realize his wife will f*ck them over just as badly.

Posted by: ugg wigs at April 07, 2016 03:33 PM (ZnIt3)

73 Hillary! is such a strong role-model for the Modern Womyn. She needs a man to become President by riding his coat-tails.

--

that's better than what i used to have to ride

Posted by: Hilary at April 07, 2016 03:33 PM (oGRue)

74 Thank you, Ace, for doing the job the American MSM won't do. Just think if a R was President with this record for the last 7 years what every front page headline and the nightly news would be talking about. But they can't do that because the MSM is tied at the hip to the SCOAMF. They made him the Worlds Biggest Celebrity and they got him elected...Hope & Change, baby!

Posted by: Trumplethinskin at April 07, 2016 03:34 PM (VDovR)

75 Maybe Good Ole Billy realizes he is scheduled for an inconvenient mid-October death and massive tear jerker state funeral if his wife is the Democrat Party Candidate?

Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 03:34 PM (v0YLX)

76 You have that idiot Ben Stein out there saying no recession is coming; we're doing great economically, and unemployment is not 20-30% like Trump or others claim.
Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:32 PM (vgEoS)

Baghdad Ben Stein. It's a fucking joke.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:35 PM (xuouz)

77 The only reason Billy Jeff would want Hillary in the White House is to keep the massive amount of graft going at the Clinton Foundation.

Follow the money.

Posted by: WisRich at April 07, 2016 03:35 PM (hdpay)

78 68 Don't kid yourselves, people. Bill and Hill hate this country as much as Fredo does.
Posted by: Soona at April 07, 2016 03:31 PM (Fmupd)

_______

Hillary, maybe. Probably.

Bill...no. He's a squirmy womanizer, but he's nothing like Obama. And when you talk to civilians as it were (ie LIVs, or people who don't think politics 24/7) you sound crazy saying that.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:35 PM (0LHZx)

79 "It definitely played a part. but even before that, Clinton at least
campaigned as a moderate Democrat. The absolute opposite of a Michael
Dukakis NE liberal. Tough on crime etc"

And then there was this. Racist dogwhistle, anyone?

http://tinyurl.com/zxm3yc5

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:35 PM (noWW6)

80
Why arent the Clintons divorced?

Because she won't let it happen until she's president. She's using Bill. Obviously she has a lot of dirt on him. She keeps her mouth shut, and he helps her political ambitions.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:35 PM (vgEoS)

81 Oh, I left out Clinton's disastrous national security record, which was pristine in its awfulness.


And is blood-soaked (American and other blood). It's not an academic exercise.


Just because the country is a shabby Third World sort of embarrassment now, in terms of governance and institutions, doesn't mean Clinton's time wasn't also a disastrous train wreck. It was.


Which brings up another thing. Trump's a con man, according to many. OK, whatever. But WTF with giving Clinton any credit whatsoever on this score? He's "slick" if you're fairly dumb or ignorant - to any intelligent worldly person


You'd never even interview Obama, clearly he brings nothing at all to the table. Clinton would have his interview cut short and be dismissed. Shallow no-talent psycho.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 07, 2016 03:35 PM (QDnY+)

82 You have that idiot Ben Stein out there saying no recession is coming; we're doing great economically, and unemployment is not 20-30% like Trump or others claim.

The brainwashing is complete. Everyone is in the obama-media-corporate tank these days.
Posted by: Douchepickle




I remember Ben Stein was out there in 2008 "shaming" Republicans for not wanting to bail out the auto companies. Also talking about how you can really print wealth out of this air with helicopter money, etc.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:35 PM (wM5Gx)

83 Hillary is Obama version 3.0 in a Chairman Mao pantsuit. Bill is just trying to make it as though that's a myth. Which it isn't.

Clinton can be pissed off all he wants about the last election and how Obama handed him and the Hag their asses. They still suck as candidates and their high negatives and low likability show it.

Even the self-absorbed shithead in the White House can't take the Clinton's bullshit for too long. That should tell you something.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 03:36 PM (O0lVq)

84 Maybe Bubba went in for Viagra but by accident his doctor gave him a prescription for Fuckital instead.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2016 03:36 PM (8ZskC)

85 @65: "It's the only "productive" thing Marxists even do."

Uh, we produce a shitload of dead bodies and misery

Posted by: Marxists at April 07, 2016 03:36 PM (rznWS)

86 65 "Just because you can write a book doesn't mean that you're not full of shit. "

There are a number of people I would like to have this phrase mirror___ tattooed on their forehead.

We can start at the National Review, Federalist and Daily Caller.

Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2016 03:37 PM (Zs4uk)

87 What if Billy Jeff Clinton is intentionally jabbing at our Low Information President as a tactic to keep President Jarrett from greenlighting an indictment of Hillary and then having it be portrayed as spiteful political payback?

Posted by: Furious George at April 07, 2016 03:37 PM (3GAnN)

88 Hillary Clinton is as bad a fit for this election cycle as McCain and Romney were for theirs. Her persona and narrative just doesn't fit the mood of the country (though I'm not sure it ever would have - I guess 2008, that was her best and possibly only shot).

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 03:37 PM (gmeXX)

89 38 35. Its a sign that negotiations are breaking down.
Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 03:26 PM (JTwsP)

Now that you mention it, it doesn't make much sense to piss off the people who could indict your wife. Or else we get back to the idea that Bubba doesn't want Hillary to win, in which case it's wheels within wheels and we should just sit back and watch the master work.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at April 07, 2016 03:37 PM (RD7QR)

90 Let's talk about how "unbeatable" The Hag is as a candidate as we reminisce about the 2008 election- shall we? Because that's the dick Clinton is still choking on.

Yeah, but let's talk about how Trump would destroy the world and Cruz is Romney with a tilde or something...

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 03:38 PM (O0lVq)

91 >>Oh, I left out Clinton's disastrous national security record, which was pristine in its awfulness.

Bubba and his awful wife absolutely crippled our intelligence services. They did not want our guys doing business with less than reputable people which could be one of the dumbest things you could possibly do when trying to get intelligence. Not to many alter boys dishing intel on our enemies.

But as usual, he never gets held accountable.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 03:38 PM (/tuJf)

92 JWest,
I am not on trump train.
I want Cruz & I live in Massachusetts & my vote on overridden by all the idiots here that kept voting for Fatboy, aka Killer, Ted Kennedy.

Where do you live? Are you on trump train?

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:38 PM (sj3Ax)

93 Had Hillary been the nominee in 2008, she would have been a one-termer, and are culture, politics and race relations would be much healthier.


I don't say that as a fan of Hillary in any way shape or form, but Obama really may have been the kill shot for this country.

A Hillary Presidency after Obama will be MUCH different.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:39 PM (wM5Gx)

94 56 If Hildabeast was president what would she do that Obama wouldn't?

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occasionally be mistaken for a man?

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at April 07, 2016 03:39 PM (oGRue)

95
Maybe Good Ole Billy realizes he is scheduled for an inconvenient mid-October death and massive tear jerker state funeral if his wife is the Democrat Party Candidate?

Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 03:34 PM (v0YLX)





This.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (SHfcd)

96 I'm amazed at how many people are delusional about Hillary. She is going to be the nominee. The only people that don't know this are insane Bernie sycophants and people on the right who for some absurd reason think Obama will indict her.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (0LHZx)

97 Oh man, I was just thinking that maybe I wouldn't have to look at raging psychopathology in the White House, after November, and then this post. I makes me look at the possibility of four more years of sociopathy...

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (sdxPm)

98 Oh, I left out Clinton's disastrous national security record, which was pristine in its awfulness.
_______________



And then Bush left much of the same team in place with Clinton's CIA director.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (wM5Gx)

99 "Where do you live? Are you on trump train?

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:38 PM (sj3Ax) "

On it? He's the conductor.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (4/i9Y)

100 Hill and Bill are playing good cop, bad cop..
She goes out and sings Obama's praises.. he trashes Obama.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (so+oy)

101
I can't fathom why we don't even discuss What's Coming For Us economically, anymore.

I mean, we're in for a very very sharp correction when this enormous obama bubble bursts. Is everyone's head in the sand? Or are we all hopped up on bread and circuses we no longer see the piper on his way to be paid?


(Oh that's right -- we have no political party. The Republicans are fully onboard with obama and love his govt.)

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (vgEoS)

102
Why in the world does he want this?

I just don't get it, we know how he's wired, why not divorce Hillary once your Presidency was over and live like Caligula?

Whatever trappings of power from being the spouse of a politician, you've had it all, why not move on?
Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:27 PM (wM5Gx)
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Nope, he hasn't "had it all" yet.

Their plan from the beginning has been to take turns in the White House for maximum profit and power -- and that also includes laying the groundwork for President Chelsea even if they're not around to see her inaugurated. There's still a lot of work to do.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (pC96u)

103 A book to re-read?

Year of the Rat: How Bill Clinton Compromised U.S. Security for Chinese Cash by Edward Timperlake and William C. Triplett II.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (qjrXu)

104 Wouldn't Bill Clinton see a Hillary victory as a validation of his own Presidency?

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (mcm0N)

105 OBAMA SUCKS... real good...

Posted by: Reggie Love at April 07, 2016 03:41 PM (12kBq)

106 Had Hillary been the nominee in 2008, she would have been a one-termer, and are culture, politics and race relations would be much healthier.

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I would agree with that. Though maybe it would have simply delayed the further degradation of those relations.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 03:41 PM (gmeXX)

107 >>Maybe Good Ole Billy realizes he is scheduled for an inconvenient
mid-October death and massive tear jerker state funeral if his wife is
the Democrat Party Candidate?


Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 03:34 PM (v0YLX)
<<

In a Chairman Mao pantsuit with prison stripes..

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 03:41 PM (O0lVq)

108 I get the impression that Bubba wishes that Barky would just go back to bringing him his coffee.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2016 03:41 PM (ptqRm)

109 With George Tenet remaining at the CIA, could AlGore's legal battle and the delay it caused have had any impact? That Bush merely went, "Well he's already there so leave him."

Interesting question.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 03:42 PM (qjrXu)

110 Seems par for the course. Back in 2000, Al Gore didn't run as a continuation of the administration he'd supposedly been a part of. I wasn't thinking of myself as conservative then but a moment that really made me wonder about these people was when Gore's VP pick, Joe Lieberman, desperate for something he and All would supposedly fix, declared that the NASDAQ was at its lowest point since the Depression.

That doesn't make any sense. A few minutes of checking online and I knew what was bothering me: the NASDAQ didn't exist during the Depression. It was formed during the 1960s (Bernie Madoff was part of that effort when he was still legit) and didn't start trading until the early 1970s. But Joe needed something to talk up to make it seem like he and All had a list of things that needed fixing and they were just the guys for the job.

This also stands out to me as the difference between identity politics and a belief in the nation created by the founders. If I applied the same mentality as certain other groups, I would have had to vote Gore-Lieberman because I'm Jewish and Lieberman would have been the first Jewish VP and possibly President to follow. Yet I felt nothing in that regard. I was far more concerned about Lieberman talking nonsense and his attacks on video games a few years earlier. I needed the country lead by someone who shared my beliefs on government, not my ethnicity.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 07, 2016 03:42 PM (IdCqF)

111 Hillary! is such a strong role-model for the Modern Womyn. She needs a man to become President by riding his coat-tails.
Posted by: Hilary at April 07, 2016 03:33 PM (oGRue)


Many of the ambitious, professional-track women I know identify with Hillary because of personal identity: they've taken sides in the "stay at home vs businesswoman" catfight and it inculcates a sense of being beseiged by an unfair world.

Ladies: being a bitch isn't a career choice, and identifying with bitches isn't a sad necessity of the patriarchy.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:42 PM (xuouz)

112 It would be awful, just awful if Hilary had to go to a Federal Prison and I had to live alone for 10-15 years.

I shudder to think of it.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 07, 2016 03:42 PM (TnP/y)

113 Follow the money.

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in Soviet Amerika, money follow Me

Posted by: Hillary at April 07, 2016 03:42 PM (oGRue)

114 100 Hill and Bill are playing good cop, bad cop..
She goes out and sings Obama's praises.. he trashes Obama.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (so+oy)

*******

That could be it.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:42 PM (mcm0N)

115 Jeepers, WTF?


"Dramatic" differences between Clinton and Obama are mostly illusory, in a practical sense, so paying attention isn't the question, using one's reason apparently is.


Obama effing campaigned with "centrist" nonsense themes in 2008 - or were you not paying attention? Balanced budgets! Efficient guvamint! On and on.


By 2012 it was down to the still-astonishing and vile "vote for revenge" - but ask any stupid NPR-listening Obama-voting suburbanite and at best they'll be (discreetly) "disappointed". These idiots actually believe the "centrist" pablum they hear.


Evan Bayh would like to have a word with you about the pre-Obama Dem party and its vital "centrism".




Posted by: rhomboid at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (QDnY+)

116 "You have that idiot Ben Stein out there saying no recession is coming;
we're doing great economically, and unemployment is not 20-30% like
Trump or others claim."

KSFO, the single local outlet for right-wing talk radio in the SF Bay Area, runs all kinds of dopey stuff, including that elderly hack Bob Brinker on weekends.

I was in the car last weekend running errands, and I still had the radio on that station from listening to Mark Levin during the workweek commute crap.

And so I was treated to Bob Brinker, in his old, slow, gentlemanly, pedantic, ponderous way, explaining that the reason we still have record food stamp usage in 2016 is because "we had the worst recession since the Great Depression in 2008".

Un-freaking-believable. Hey, Bob, why is it that reliance on government food aid fell noticeably during all other economic recoveries since the Great Depression? And how about the brutal 1981-82 recession? Why wasn't recovery from THAT also slow? And wasn't the 2008 recession, gosh, I don't know... eight goddamned years ago? We won WWII in four years.

This is the stuff that purportedly "right wing" radio is transmitting to voters!

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (noWW6)

117 Moo Moo,
I'm not a guy, I'm an 'ette & have been here since 2008 or before.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (sj3Ax)

118 How can you talk about the last seven years as anything other than a disaster on all fronts -- economic, security, social?

You look at November of 2012 and say, "Oh."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (AroJD)

119 @101: "I can't fathom why we don't even discuss What's Coming For Us economically, anymore."

Because once you start honestly discussing that, you have to start acknowledging that there is no voting your way out of the problem, and most people just won't do that.

Posted by: Marxists at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (rznWS)

120 Interesting how the Clintons ran to Tammany Hall New York.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (mcm0N)

121 He really cant say anything else or hillary wont get elected. Let's face it, they last 7 years really have sucked.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 07, 2016 03:44 PM (iONHu)

122 She keeps her mouth shut, and he helps her political ambitions.

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keeping your mouth shut around Bill. I should've thought of that

Posted by: Monica L at April 07, 2016 03:44 PM (oGRue)

123 On it? He's the conductor.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (4/i9Y)

What does that make me?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:44 PM (xuouz)

124 >>If Hildabeast was president what would she do that Obama wouldn't?


Eat pussy in the Oval Office.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2016 03:44 PM (TnP/y)

125 I can't decide who would be worse between Bernie and Hillary. I'm
leaning Hillary. But it's a bit like asking what's worse, brain cancer
to lung cancer?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (0LHZx)

The Clintons are worse because they'd infect the body politic for a generation. Chelsea is already dropping hints that she plans to run for a NYC council seat one day. If Hillary! wins the WH, Chelsea will be given a cushy council seat, then a congressional seat in 2020, and then most likely the NY junior senator slot in 2024.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at April 07, 2016 03:45 PM (LUG6K)

126 @ 6 The Obama's have to realize that if the Clintons take the White House
they will destroy Obama's legacy in order to further their own.


This, I think. Remember that ObamaCare originally was going to be HillaryCare back in '93 or thereabouts. That has to sting the Clintons every single day, and the Clintons don't like being stung.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (AroJD)

127 *shudders*

I think a slime trail across the Resolute Desk would be far worse than Gaylord putting his feet up on the poor desk.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (qjrXu)

128 If Hildabeast was president what would she do that Obama wouldn't?

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I actually think quite a bit.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (gmeXX)

129 "... and the 7 years before that when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington..."

What a dishonest scumbag. The ones who are pushing trickle-down economics are the dems.They are the ones giving taxpayer money to their favored groups and hoping it trickles down to us other peasants.
And the GOP actually tried to re-regulate the industry, but as the dems were social engineering/making tons of money from it, they fought tooth and nail to keep it unregulated.

Posted by: Tilikum KAW at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (m3iiU)

130 >>This is the stuff that purportedly "right wing" radio is transmitting to voters!

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (noWW6)
<<

There are more misinformed, dishonest idiot jackasses, on "Right Wing Radio"than in any other domain on the planet.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (O0lVq)

131 The Obama's have to realize that if the Clintons take the White House they will destroy Obama's legacy in order to further their own.
Posted by: Colorado Alex

This x 1000. President Narcissist would list his legacy as most important over actual national and worldwide issues.

I watched an episode of 'Circus' on Showtime on the 2016 election. Bill was asked about the state of Wisconsin and how important it was to the election. He fiddled and doddered and made absolutely no sense as he rambled on. I do hope the man lasts through the election season as Hillary who I see as desperate would use his death as an election gift.

Posted by: Cheri at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (oiNtH)

132 So, Bill Clinton was a frequent flyer on Jeffrey Epsteins's Pedo Express and Teh Donald has had glowing thins to say about Epstein. Makes me feel so warm and fuzzy about a potential Clinton-Trump battle.

Posted by: Trumplethinskin at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (VDovR)

133 Where do you live? Are you on trump train?

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:38 PM (sj3Ax)


Being in Michigan, we're seventh generation inbred sister fuckers, so naturally we're all for Trump.

We're looking for change from the status quo and believe that there is no way the GOPe would ever allow Cruz to get the nomination. That, and something to make the crosses burn longer and brighter.

I know we're a constant source of embarrassment to our New York City betters, but we've gotta do what we've gotta do.

Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (Zs4uk)

134 Nope, he hasn't "had it all" yet.

Their plan from the beginning has been to take turns in the White House for maximum profit and power -- and that also includes laying the groundwork for President Chelsea even if they're not around to see her inaugurated. There's still a lot of work to do.
Posted by: iforgot

____________________


Everyone is wired differently, but I would rather have Hillary in my rear view mirror after being President than back in the White House as First Husband living my last remaining years dealing with her.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (wM5Gx)

135 117 Moo Moo,
I'm not a guy, I'm an 'ette & have been here since 2008 or before.
Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:43 PM (sj3Ax)

___

But how do you identify? That's what counts.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:47 PM (0LHZx)

136 Now that you mention it, it doesn't make much sense to piss off the people who could indict your wife.

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doesn't that depend on the wife?

Posted by: Bubba at April 07, 2016 03:47 PM (oGRue)

137 (oGRue)


Nice Hash.

Posted by: garrett 2 x 4 at April 07, 2016 03:48 PM (TnP/y)

138 I think you have to go back to Carter to find another President and SEcretary of State that got an ambassador killed. Killary up that bt adding three more Americans.

But you know, her time at State is an argument for her campaign.

I mean, honestly, where the f is the GOP on this shit?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 03:48 PM (O0lVq)

139 Hi Carol! How are you?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 03:48 PM (ucDmr)

140 "What does that make me?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:44 PM (xuouz) "

The guy who shovels the coal into the furnace?

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (4/i9Y)

141 "a moment that really made me wonder about these people was when Gore's
VP pick, Joe Lieberman, desperate for something he and All would
supposedly fix, declared that the NASDAQ was at its lowest point since
the Depression. That doesn't make any sense. A few minutes of
checking online and I knew what was bothering me: the NASDAQ didn't
exist during the Depression."

And then there was this.

"When the stock market crashed, FDR got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed."

-- Senator Joe Biden, CBS Evening News interview, September 2008

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (noWW6)

142 @ 124
Thread Winner!

Posted by: Trumplethinskin at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (VDovR)

143 I can't decide who would be worse between Bernie and Hillary. I'm
leaning Hillary. But it's a bit like asking what's worse, brain cancer
to lung cancer?

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Depends on what your definition of "worse" looks like. Bernie would certainly be much less effective. His rhetoric towards huge tax hikes and anti-business likely would have many democrats opposed - the average D is as beholden to their big money as Rs are to theirs.

I think Shrillary would be able to do much more danger to our already very battered and damaged Republic.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (KUaJL)

144
I mean, honestly, where the f is the GOP on this shit?

Scheming against their own voting base.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (vgEoS)

145 "They hate each other:

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2016 03:16 PM (kTF2Z)
"

Who?

Bill and Obama?

Hillary and Obama?

Bill and Hillary?

Posted by: Ripley at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (1BQGO)

146 Now is that Clinton taking a sneaky, bitter-defeated-rival shot at Obama, or is that Bill Clinton just noticing things that are actually true?



It's true, and it helps to distance Hillary from our Dusky Messiah, without her having to do it herself.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (oKE6c)

147 >>This is why I think the email scandal will kill Hillary!'s campaign. The
Obama's have to realize that if the Clintons take the White House they
will destroy Obama's legacy in order to further their own.


I've thought the same thing - that at the core, these two families and political factions haaate each other, both want to exert the most influence of the future of the party and the country.

But it's like trying to understand the motives, fake-outs, alliances of convenience, and public statements of a really dysfunctional family.

Exit question: Does Bill even really know what he wants?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (NOIQH)

148 fuck the gop.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 03:49 PM (ucDmr)

149 I know Clinton could have been more proactive about Al Qaeda and 9/11 lies partly at his feet, but we did have eight years of peace and prosperity.

*********

Tech bubble and then Republican House.

Plus Khobar Towers treated as a legal matter, first World Trade Center bombing, then the attacks on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania--cap that off with the USS Cole bombing.

He continued the RIF while increasing the ops tempo for critically manned elements.

But people forget.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:50 PM (mcm0N)

150 The advantage to having Sanders as president instead of Clinton is that some of the GOPe would think that maybe actively opposing the president would be a good idea.

Posted by: Furious George at April 07, 2016 03:50 PM (3GAnN)

151 "It would be awful, just awful if Hilary had to go to a Federal Prison and I had to live alone for 10-15 years. "


Pretty much a win/win for ol' Bill. Hil' gets indicted and she goes away for the rest of his life. She doesn't, well she'll be stuck in D.C. and Bill will be out running around with his buddies anyway maybe showing for formal occasions.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 03:50 PM (LA7Cm)

152 I can't decide who would be worse between Bernie and Hillary. I'm
leaning Hillary. But it's a bit like asking what's worse, brain cancer
to lung cancer?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at April 07, 2016 03:28 PM (0LHZx)

I would say the Clintons. Sanders is an old commie loving idiot who I don't think could get a lot of his social engineering programs off of the ground despite the FSA. Hillary on the other hand is a devious, agenda driven bint who would make life hell and enjoy doing it.

Posted by: Cheri at April 07, 2016 03:50 PM (oiNtH)

153 "I mean, honestly, where the f is the GOP on this shit?"

They're at a champagne bistro on K Street with some lobbyist friends.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:50 PM (noWW6)

154 I think Bill looks awful & per Ed Klein (? Spelling) he told Mrs. C. that if he died to use it & wear widow weeds. He was on Howie Carr show several times here in Boston in 2014.

I've stopped listening to Carr because it was almost like four hour trump commercial, same BS with Hannity & Rush for 5-6 months, but Limbaugh hasn't been so trump, but I've only listened for 1 hour a day lately.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 03:50 PM (sj3Ax)

155 "...because I'm Jewish and Lieberman would have been the
first Jewish VP and possibly President to follow. Yet I felt nothing in
that regard."

Posted by: Epobirs at April 07, 2016 03:42 PM (IdCqF)

Then you are a traitor and at the next meeting we will cancel your monthly checks.

Posted by: Zionist Occupation Government AoSHQ Local 437 at April 07, 2016 03:51 PM (Zu3d9)

156 " "They hate each other:


Who?

Bill and Obama?

Hillary and Obama?

Bill and Hillary?"



Yes.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 03:51 PM (LA7Cm)

157 I've thought the same thing - that at the core, these two families and political factions haaate each other

********

....which is why she has the server in the first place CYA.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:52 PM (mcm0N)

158 So FBI agents cuff her when?

Posted by: torabora at April 07, 2016 03:52 PM (dTBDW)

159 We went to sleep in the 1990's, and we're paying for it to this day.

Posted by: Mike at April 07, 2016 03:52 PM (ISxUB)

160 As I look at Bill, I'm reminded of Charlie Sheen.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 03:52 PM (sdxPm)

161 >>>>If Hildabeast was president what would she do that Obama wouldn't?


Heck, if Hillary manages to get elected and not indicted I bet she'd be like Obama amped up to '11.'

Seriously, there are no rules, no authority that can constrain her if she pulls that off.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 03:52 PM (NOIQH)

162 She *had* the server in the first place.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 03:52 PM (mcm0N)

163 *** unavailable to comment on Former Secretary of State Clinton's foreign policy qualifications ***

Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at April 07, 2016 03:52 PM (12kBq)

164 61 56 If Hildabeast was president what would she do that Obama wouldn't?
Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2016 03:29 PM (HGc3Y)

_____

Have sex with women in the white house.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo



So, she'd do the same as Bill? Have sex with women that weren't her spouse.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 03:53 PM (SvnHQ)

165 The highlight of Obama's presidency to me was when Bubba showed up at one of his press conferences and pretty much pushed him off the podium.
I thought Fredo's head would explode, he was so pissed.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 07, 2016 03:53 PM (8WyYX)

166 Obama effing campaigned with "centrist" nonsense themes in 2008 - or were you not paying attention? Balanced budgets! Efficient guvamint! On and on.
Posted by: rhomboid




A Hillary Presidency would not have been nearly as Leftist as an Obama Administration.

Whether you want to call that your "center" or not, Hillary would not have been that different than Bush in my opinion. Maybe a slight tax increase, a little more regulation, etc. But far more cautious.

Obama was a dramatic departure

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:53 PM (wM5Gx)

167 It's just the server being investigated, not Mrs. Clinton speciically

Posted by: Alan Turing at April 07, 2016 03:53 PM (12kBq)

168 I would say the Clintons. Sanders is an old commie loving idiot who I
don't think could get a lot of his social engineering programs off of
the ground despite the FSA. Hillary on the other hand is a devious,
agenda driven bint who would make life hell and enjoy doing it.>>>

I'm gonna guess Hillary has a lot more political blackmail ammo than Bernie does. So she will do a lot more damage than Bernie could.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 07, 2016 03:54 PM (tf9Ne)

169 "143
I can't decide who would be worse between Bernie and Hillary. I'm

leaning Hillary. But it's a bit like asking what's worse, brain cancer

to lung cancer?"

Hillary is much more dangerous as Dems fear her and many will oppose the doddering old fool Bernie if he is elected. Problem is he will probably not last a year at his age and will retire or die of stress/heart attack. His VP, most likely Pocahontas, would be the real danger.

Posted by: Ripley at April 07, 2016 03:54 PM (1BQGO)

170 How could anyone disparage such a moderate, healing President like Barack Hussein Obama???

Posted by: Colon Powell at April 07, 2016 03:54 PM (12kBq)

171
We went to sleep in the 1990's, and we're paying for it to this day.
Posted by: Mike


The sleeping giant hit the snooze button and rolled over.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at April 07, 2016 03:54 PM (FkBIv)

172 @138: "I mean, honestly, where the f is the GOP on this shit?"

Foursquare behind Hillary. Imagine what would happen if people started holding politicians responsible for their actions? It wouldn't bode well for many in the GOP, either.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at April 07, 2016 03:55 PM (rznWS)

173 #124

wow

Posted by: torabora at April 07, 2016 03:55 PM (dTBDW)

174 The feud is Hillary and Jarrett.

Next question.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:55 PM (xuouz)

175 "Sanders is an old commie loving idiot who I don't think could get a lot
of his social engineering programs off of the ground despite the FSA."

Bela Pelosi said that the Sanders tax plan was a total nonstarter so far as she and her House caucus were concerned. (Not least because it would financially body-slam Pelosi and her husband in several different ways.)

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 03:55 PM (noWW6)

176 >>
I can't decide who would be worse between Bernie and Hillary. I'm

leaning Hillary. But it's a bit like asking what's worse, brain cancer

to lung cancer?


Think Hillary would do far more damage considering she's got a loyal, decades-long serving team who would be doing bad stuff from the moment she took to oath of office. Heck, Bill might spend Nov - Jan 20th doing a world tour fire sale selling off as much as he can before she's even officially in office.

Bernie couldn't be nearly as effective, unless he inherits Obama's team - something I would be worried about, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 03:55 PM (NOIQH)

177 102
Why in the world does he want this?

I just don't get it, we know how he's wired, why not divorce Hillary once your Presidency was over and live like Caligula?

Whatever trappings of power from being the spouse of a politician, you've had it all, why not move on?
Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:27 PM (wM5Gx)
-----------------------
Nope, he hasn't "had it all" yet.

Their plan from the beginning has been to take turns in the White House for maximum profit and power -- and that also includes laying the groundwork for President Chelsea even if they're not around to see her inaugurated. There's still a lot of work to do.
Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 03:40 PM (pC96u)


Are Billy and Hillary trying to become like the Bushes, Roosevelts, Daleys, Barbours, and Kennedys?

I look around and I see a lot of wanna-be Princes, Dukes, and Kings.

Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 03:56 PM (v0YLX)

178 Bill really left Obama hung out to dry with this one

Posted by: David Carradine at April 07, 2016 03:56 PM (12kBq)

179 wow

Posted by: torabora at April 07, 2016 03:55 PM (dTBDW)

Yeah...Garrett is a man of few words, but most of them are profane (and funny).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 03:56 PM (Zu3d9)

180 It's just the server being investigated, not Mrs. Clinton speciically
Posted by: Alan Turing at April 07, 2016 03:53 PM (12kBq)

She didn't KNOW the things were classified, duuuude.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 03:56 PM (xuouz)

181
I have a different take on this than Ace.

This is Bill Clinton reminding the people (especially the stupid young people he's encountering on the campaign trail) that he was president at one time, too, just like that cool obama is now.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 03:57 PM (vgEoS)

182 A normal guy would've already said "screw it", divorced the hag and live out his years in the lap of luxury.

But, Clinton as 1st Hubbie, knows he'll be essentially Super-Ambassador to the world.

Flights on Airfare 1. Sec Serv protection. Finest hotels. Best Restaurants. Banging top notch hookers or political groupies who catch his eye.

And all on the taxpayer's money!!!


For an old corrupt politician there's nothing better:

all the gravy, none of the responsibility.

Sort of like the entire 8 year reign of TFG.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 07, 2016 03:57 PM (0cMkb)

183 With the Clintons, it's always three-dimensional peekaboo.

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 07, 2016 03:57 PM (43OZ6)

184 Ol Bill needs to think about Hillz election. If she is elected, he will be the spouse of a SITTING president, not a has been.

His security detail will triple. It will become a "thing".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 03:57 PM (SvnHQ)

185 At least we know Obama won't get a BJ in the Oval Office. That's not to say he never gave one.

I wonder if, after Obama leave office, his aides will spill their guts to the press, probably anonymously, about what a feckless weenie Obama was.

Posted by: CrustyB at April 07, 2016 03:57 PM (GvSpB)

186
Clintons vs Obmas

Not quite the Borgias vs Medecis

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 03:58 PM (iQIUe)

187 Bill Clinton is a democrat, and the first thing democrats notice is skin color.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 03:58 PM (Qvgg/)

188 I dunno...I always considered Bill Clinton a very becoming candidate...iykwimaityd

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at April 07, 2016 03:59 PM (4Pomb)

189 I think the Clintons have things about as effective as a certain 'eternity' potion.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 04:00 PM (qjrXu)

190 You all know I'm gonna get the nomination in an open convention... and everyone know I did nothing in this administration

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 07, 2016 04:00 PM (12kBq)

191 Lotsa rehistoricizing here. Clinton sucked ass. He only looks slightly ok due to the total clusterfuck that is TFG and his evil wike.

Posted by: DaveA at April 07, 2016 04:00 PM (DL2i+)

192 >>I just don't get it, we know how he's wired, why not divorce Hillary once your Presidency was over and live like Caligula?
Whatever trappings of power from being the spouse of a politician, you've had it all, why not move on?


Bill and Hillary are about power.
Staying married maximized their power.

They were perfect partners w/the Foundation - State merger for 4 years, raking in *billions* by selling her influence and lord know what else.

Also, oddly, staying married takes the heat of their personal lives because they can count on the press covering for them w/their glowing "power couple/loving marriage" narrative. They get divorced then people naturally start wondering what each one of them is up to.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 04:00 PM (NOIQH)

193
Everyone is wired differently, but I would rather have Hillary in my rear view mirror after being President than back in the White House as First Husband living my last remaining years dealing with her.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 03:46 PM (wM5Gx)
-------------------

One more thing: his epitaph.

Bill's presidency will be defined forever and all time as the Blowjob President if he doesn't get back into the White House and scrub that image as hard as he can. He knows that he will be the most ridiculed president in history otherwise.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:00 PM (pC96u)

194 Do you wipe a server from front to back or from back to front?

Posted by: Hildabeast at April 07, 2016 04:00 PM (dTBDW)

195
Maybe Hillar!!y should wear blackface at her next debate.

Posted by: wth at April 07, 2016 04:01 PM (HgMAr)

196 The picture they are trying to paint, is that Sanders and the POS in the white house aren't true democrats, so you need to vote for the old hag.

Traditionally, political parties trying to hold on to a presidential seat will talk about how good things currently are, but conditions in this country are so bad, even an old coot with syphilitic brain lesions like Bill Clinton can see that strategy won't fly.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 04:01 PM (Qvgg/)

197 >>most of them are profane (and funny).


Thanks, but that one was all tee'd up and looking for somebody to hit it.

...and it is a Clinton Family Tradition.

Like analingus.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2016 04:01 PM (TnP/y)

198 Hi Chavez,
I'm pretty good. How are you?

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 04:01 PM (sj3Ax)

199 Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... but never with me...

Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at April 07, 2016 04:01 PM (12kBq)

200 A normal guy would've already said "screw it", divorced the hag and live out his years in the lap of luxury.

But, Clinton as 1st Hubbie, knows he'll be essentially Super-Ambassador to the world.

Flights on Airfare 1. Sec Serv protection. Finest hotels. Best Restaurants. Banging top notch hookers or political groupies who catch his eye.

And all on the taxpayer's money!!!

_________________

None of those trapping are worthwhile if at the end of the day you have to climb in bed with Hillary at night.


Bill could have had all those trappings anyway as a former President getting gazillions of dollars making speeches. Look at Al Gore, the guy is worth hundreds of millions all because he was a former VP? Even he could figure it out.


Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:01 PM (wM5Gx)

201
#blackpantiesmatter

Posted by: Billy Cliton at April 07, 2016 04:02 PM (qul7b)

202 Billy, do you remember how you and Algore and Mad Halfbright and Senator Horseface all believed Iraq was producing WMDs?
Just curious

Posted by: Hank at April 07, 2016 04:02 PM (i1Vpp)

203 I'm certain that with all of Hillary's skills as a diplomat, which she honed at State, she'll be able to pull this off with the mastery of a grandmother playing peek-a-boo with her grandchild. It's innate.

Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2016 04:02 PM (UzPAd)

204 I'm good Carol, thanks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:02 PM (ucDmr)

205 >> Clinton sucked ass


According to the Starr Report, that was Monica.

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2016 04:02 PM (TnP/y)

206
bill is trying to appeal to dems who can't stand obama and are leaning trump.

Posted by: runner at April 07, 2016 04:02 PM (c6/9Q)

207
Do you wipe a server from front to back or from back to front?
.........................

Back to front, but front to back before a date with Huma.

Posted by: wth at April 07, 2016 04:02 PM (HgMAr)

208
Are Billy and Hillary trying to become like the Bushes, Roosevelts, Daleys, Barbours, and Kennedys?

---------------------

I'd say the Kennedys for sure.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:03 PM (pC96u)

209 Moo Moo,
I'm a real woman & believe identifying genders is as much a scam as Glubull Warming.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 04:03 PM (sj3Ax)

210 "Bill's presidency will be defined forever and all time as the Blowjob President if he doesn't get back into the White House and scrub that image as hard as he can."


I don't think he cares, i-f.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:03 PM (LA7Cm)

211 "I wonder if, after Obama leave office, his aides will spill their guts
to the press, probably anonymously, about what a feckless weenie Obama
was."

Obama's first two SECDEFs are already on the record in print about Obama ignoring their advice. Bob Gates said just this week that Obama lied to him about defense spending plans, in only slightly softer words than that.

It'll be interesting to see if Ashton Carter makes it a trifecta.

By the way, Ashcart is off on a round the world tour, trying to patch up diplomatic and inter-military relations that have been badly damaged by Obama's ineptitude.

The Indians are absolutely furious with the administration after last week's "nuclear security summit", where Obama bluntly said that India is the moral equivalent of terrorist-supporting, nuke-proliferating Pakistan.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 04:04 PM (noWW6)

212 #185 Wanna bet on that?

Posted by: Hildabeast at April 07, 2016 04:04 PM (dTBDW)

213
>>>When your ideology trumps, LITERALLY, the sanctity of your own ass and the very real safety concerns of the society you are a part of, you are a failure as a human being.<<<
You say that now, but wait until its your turnto experience thehighjinks down at theimmigrant appreciation society.
Sarcasm off.


Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 04:05 PM (C6xeQ)

214 >>None of those trapping are worthwhile if at the end of the day you have to climb in bed with Hillary at night.


Uh, you do know they've lived in separate states since Hillary moved out of the WH, right? Bill lives in Chappaqua and travels a lot, while Hill bought a nice DC mansion when she was elected Senator. Hillary's mother then moved in with her (until she passed away). I doubt he was even climbing into bed with her when they lived in the WH.

They are already essentially divorced. Business partners at this point, nothing else.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

215 He just wants to be served a cup of coffee.

Posted by: wth at April 07, 2016 04:05 PM (HgMAr)

216 Chavez,
I'm glad you're good.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 04:05 PM (sj3Ax)

217 the clinton's don't give a shit about anything but money. and, lots of it. suck it peasants. that is why they live. their reason for living is, fuck all y'all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:06 PM (ucDmr)

218 Bill's presidency will be defined forever and all time as the Blowjob President if he doesn't get back into the White House and scrub that image as hard as he can."


I don't think he cares, i-f.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill




I don't think so either, and I think his "esteem" in history will go down as First Husband. He's making a terrible impression as a surrogate for Hillary

If Hillary is elected and she puts her husband in the spotlight, people will probably be wondering why everyone thought he had so much charisma.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:06 PM (wM5Gx)

219 "Clinton Restoration" still with the tarded aristocratic metaphors

Posted by: Observer at April 07, 2016 04:07 PM (szdee)

220 Hillary has the goods on Obama--and it probably involves Benghazi. That's why she'll get a pardon and also why Bill has the audacity to talk like this.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 04:07 PM (mcm0N)

221 Also, oddly, staying married takes the heat of their personal lives because they can count on the press covering for them w/their glowing "power couple/loving marriage" narrative. They get divorced then people naturally start wondering what each one of them is up to.



That, and the testifying against each other.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 04:07 PM (SvnHQ)

222 Hola, Hordlings. I see we're still well and royally screwed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:07 PM (FsuaD)

223 None of those trapping are worthwhile if at the end of the day you have to climb in bed with Hillary at night.


Uh, you do know they've lived in separate states since Hillary moved out of the WH, right? Bill lives in Chappaqua and travels a lot, while Hill bought a nice DC mansion when she was elected Senator. Hillary's mother then moved in with her (until she passed away). I doubt he was even climbing into bed with her when they lived in the WH.

They are already essentially divorced. Business partners at this point, nothing else.
Posted by: Lizzy




How's he going to pull that shit in the White House?

It's not the 60's anymore, people are going to notice hookers going in and out at odd hours.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:08 PM (wM5Gx)

224 There was a tape that she showed Issa that then became classified. Possibly the film from the security cams that were installed at the Consulate.

Posted by: New York Could Get Ugly at April 07, 2016 04:08 PM (mcm0N)

225 >>That, and the testifying against each other.

Heh, very important point!!

Also, dividing the assets, most of which are tied up in their Clinton slushfund/foundation.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 04:09 PM (NOIQH)

226 222:Jane is back! Glad to see you survived the safari.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:09 PM (ucDmr)

227 That, and the testifying against each other.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 04:07 PM (SvnHQ)

Aaaand this is 99.75% of why they remained married.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:09 PM (xuouz)

228 >>Obama's first two SECDEFs are already on the record in print about Obama ignoring their advice. Bob Gates said just this week that Obama lied to him about defense spending plans, in only slightly softer words than that.

>>It'll be interesting to see if Ashton Carter makes it a trifecta.

Superfecta. Ash Carter is Obama's 4th Sec Def and the previous 3 have all trashed him as a lightweight who only listens to his lightweight staff.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 04:09 PM (/tuJf)

229 I could use a good laugh, so I'd love to see someone run on the basis of "the last eight years were great, and I want to give you eight more of the same".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 04:09 PM (gUoN4)

230 Hey hey hey! What about me? I'm really old and can barely talk, too.

Posted by: Bernie at April 07, 2016 04:09 PM (HgMAr)

231
"Bill's presidency will be defined forever and all time as the Blowjob President if he doesn't get back into the White House and scrub that image as hard as he can."


I don't think he cares, i-f.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:03 PM (LA7Cm)
-------------------

I think he does. Something motivates everyone. He's emotionally needy and vain, and he can't bear the thought of all the news stories in the week of his death having keywords impeached -- sex -- intern.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:10 PM (pC96u)

232 I doubt Bill will spend much time in the WH is she gets elected.He'll be off speechifying and vacationing on pedo island.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:10 PM (B48dK)

233 "That, and the testifying against each other. "


When you're into the shit the Clintons' are that's a nice bit of security.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:10 PM (LA7Cm)

234 "The World Is Coming Apart Right Now"

Just as Frank Davis Marshall, Saul Alinsky and the Twelve Imam commanded.


I am a total success.

Posted by: King Putt at April 07, 2016 04:10 PM (12kBq)

235
I doubt he was even climbing into bed with her when they lived in the WH.
----------------------

I've read they were in separate rooms, in fact separate suites.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:10 PM (pC96u)

236 >>How's he going to pull that shit in the White House?


That assumes Bill will move in.
I wouldn't count on that. There have already been stories floated in the press that, should Hillary win, she would be joined in the WH by Chelsea or Huma (her two closest advisors).


Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (NOIQH)

237 when we were practicing trickle-down economics and no regulation in Washington, which is what caused the crash,

LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (zc3Db)

238 "They are already essentially divorced. Business partners at this point, nothing else."

What the Clintons have isn't a marriage as the rest of us understand that.

It's a limited-liability partnership.

Posted by: torquewrench at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (noWW6)

239 How's he going to pull that shit in the White House?

It's not the 60's anymore, people are going to notice hookers going in and out at odd hours.
Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:08 PM (wM5Gx)


------------


This is true. Didn't they brick up that old tunnel JFK used?

Posted by: Soona at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (Fmupd)

240 228 Yeah,but none of them resigned in protest.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (B48dK)

241 How can you talk about the last seven years as anything other than a disaster on all fronts -- economic, security, social?
----


How can a nation exist when one side sees it this way and the other sees it the total opposite.

#TWANLOC

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (mEZce)

242 Hill will appoint Bill as SecState to patch things up with all the world leaders Prezinent Barky shit on. Everything will be juuust fine, by golly.

Posted by: Hank at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (i1Vpp)

243 Yes, Jane, do tell us all about it.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:11 PM (LA7Cm)

244 226
222:Jane is back! Glad to see you survived the safari.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:09 PM (ucDmr)


Lol. Oh, the stories. I did actually go on a safari WALK. And lived to tell about it.

I did NOT miss television or newspapers for two weeks. However, everyone in S. Africa (the locals) were *very* interested in our politics. I had to *gently* explain to several sweet guides that Hillary is a criminal who should be in prison. So there was that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (FsuaD)

245 237 Well,to be fair the only trickling down Bubba understands is his jizz truckling down some bimbo.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (B48dK)

246 Clinton's comments don't sound like a criticism to me, but rather a defense.

As in, "When I became President, the world wasn't falling apart like it is now--the Berlin wall had fallen, Bush Senior had decommissioned the tactical nukes, we were looking forward to a peace dividend. Obama's got a plate full. We need someone (my wife) who can handle all this crap."

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (laMCB)

247 CNBC did a study and determined that the BLS initial call on quarterly GDP was +-1.3% of the final value determined months later when all the data was available.
So, when the Q1 GDP came in at 0.5% yesterday, they called it meaningless because the final value would be between -0.8% and 1.8%, which meant you had no idea if the economy was going forward or backward.

Posted by: Jihad Joe at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (+C5m6)

248 I don't think he cares, i-f.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:03 PM (LA7Cm)
-------------------

I think he does. Something motivates everyone. He's emotionally needy and vain, and he can't bear the thought of all the news stories in the week of his death having keywords impeached -- sex -- intern.
Posted by: iforgot




It's an interesting theory, but if the Lewinsky scandal never went down, you're saying he would not be helping his wife get elected right now?

I think it's just the addiction to power, but it still seems illogical to me.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (wM5Gx)

249 Billy Jeff just had another Sister Souljah moment. Went after BLM protesters at his campaign event telling them their defending drug dealers and murders.

Heh. That definitely doesn't fit the Liberal narrative these days.

Posted by: WisRich at April 07, 2016 04:13 PM (hdpay)

250 Bill is a scumbag in his own way--womanizing, dirty politics--but he doesn't hate America. I don't even believe he's even that much of a lefty. And if he didn't marry Hillary, he might even have eventually been a conservative--if it was politically convenient.
But that's the thing about mercenaries. They are all about selling themselves to the highest bidder, but at least their terms are negotiable. I'd much rather pay off a mercenary than face a zealot.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2016 04:13 PM (Ge5W3)

251 pretty sure bill has not slept with hildebeast since they were in college. who would?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:13 PM (ucDmr)

252 Superfecta. Ash Carter is Obama's 4th Sec Def and
the previous 3 have all trashed him as a lightweight who only listens to
his lightweight staff.

Posted by: JackStraw


Hey now, they aren't all lightweights. Why, John Kerry by himself could light up NYC with all of his brainpower. Well, that and a Tsar Bomba, but you see my point.

Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:13 PM (LAe3v)

253 @ 185
Answer: No

Long answer; the MSM won't turn on Obama. They made him into the Worlds Biggest Celebrity and got him elected. His credibility is their credibility, they won't admit he is a massive failure because that would be admitting they are also massive failures. So, gird your loins for endless Historic First Black Prez blah blah etc etc

Posted by: Trumplethinskin at April 07, 2016 04:14 PM (VDovR)

254 >> Bill's presidency will be defined forever and all time as the
>> Blowjob President if he doesn't get back into the White
>> House and scrub that image as hard as he can. He knows
>> that he will be the most ridiculed president in history
>> otherwise.

I didn't like Clinton much in office. He's sleazy, he appointed a bunch of shit to the Cabinet, some feel he was a Great Communicator but to me his voice and his manner always said "I'm bullshitting you, and you know it, and you know I'm going to get away with it."

But he was almost a paragon of competence compared to Bush 43 and it's impossible to compare him to the present filth.

His position in history will be as the target of Congressional overreach, an impeachment on what most of the public regarded as trumped-up and with no prospect of a conviction.

The GOP broke for two generations the impeachment arrow as remedy for Presidential misdeeds, and that's indeed tragic as the current guy needs it rammed up his ass until it comes out his throat.

Posted by: JEM at April 07, 2016 04:14 PM (o+SC1)

255 >>Billy Jeff just had another Sister Souljah moment. Went after BLM protesters at his campaign event telling them their defending drug dealers and murders

wow.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 04:14 PM (/tuJf)

256
As for exactly where he'll live and what he'll do, I say he'll be a good general for the Clinton empire, prep the ground for Chelsea, and -- I repeat -- try to be as statesmanlike and influential and important as possible in order to leave a better impression at his death. I still think a vain bastard like him does not want to be known as the Blowjob President.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:14 PM (pC96u)

257 What the Clintons have isn't a marriage as the rest of us understand that.

It's a limited-liability partnership.



It's two rats in a sack thrown in the river.

Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:15 PM (LAe3v)

258
I think it's just the addiction to power, but it still seems illogical to me.<<<<

When President Hillary controls the justice department, the Clinton Global Cash Machine will REALLY hit is its stride. Clinton logic is green, like the color of money.

Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 04:15 PM (JTwsP)

259 "Went after BLM protesters at his campaign event telling them their defending drug dealers and murders "


It's almost like he's trying to piss Barry off.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:15 PM (LA7Cm)

260 By comparing things to when he was President, bill seems to be implying that if Hillary is elected he will be the sage behind the throne and he will make America Great Again!

Posted by: Not Implying I Know Anything at April 07, 2016 04:15 PM (Fy9KA)

261 I had to *gently* explain to several sweet guides that Hillary is a criminal who should be in prison. So there was that.

From what I hear, she'd have fit in perfectly in Pretoria.

Welcome back!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 04:15 PM (9krrF)

262 Bill looks extremely unhealthy. Probably feels time is no longer on his side and wants desperately to clean up his legacy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:16 PM (FsuaD)

263 244: Jane, you have more balls than me. I wouldn't walk anywhere over there.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:16 PM (ucDmr)

264 Maybe BJ has developed a conscience in his old age, or else he doesn't want his wife to outshine him. That BLM comment could easily cost the election.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 04:16 PM (Qvgg/)

265 >>Bill Clinton: Unlike When I Was President, The World Is Coming Apart Right Now<<

But then, I was also banging cocktail waitresses two at a time in those days.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 04:16 PM (O0lVq)

266 >>Billy Jeff just had another Sister Souljah moment. Went after BLM protesters at his campaign event telling them their defending drug dealers and murders


Bill never got anywhere telling the Truth, before.

Why has he started, now?

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2016 04:17 PM (TnP/y)

267 @ 220
This may very well be true.

Posted by: Trumplethinskin at April 07, 2016 04:17 PM (VDovR)

268 What I'm saying is that our president is a super predator.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 07, 2016 04:17 PM (4ErVI)

269 "How can you talk about the last seven years as anything other than a disaster on all fronts -- economic, security, social?"
=======

I don't know, man. Just look at a typical Facebook timeline. To the imbeciles I've "friended," the last seven years have been glorious. President Kewl sticking it to the racists and taking care of everybody.

I don't even know how to relate to these people anymore.

Posted by: Kensington at April 07, 2016 04:17 PM (7Kbxu)

270 217 the clinton's don't give a shit about anything but money. and, lots of it.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:06 PM (ucDmr)
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That's unfair.
Hillar cares about more than money.

Hillary cares!
About being Historic First!!!!
About telling us what to do every minute of our lives. About getting feminazi revenge on the daddy who didn't love her.
About making her enemies grovel and suffer.
About POWER.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 07, 2016 04:18 PM (T/5A0)

271 When President Hillary controls the justice department, the Clinton Global Cash Machine will REALLY hit is its stride. Clinton logic is green, like the color of money.
Posted by: simplemind




But what bauble do they want that they can't buy right now?

I mean Al Gore is supposedly worth $200 million.

I get that greed can be insatiable, but the idea you have to continue this farce of a marriage and get your wife elected is the only way an Ex-President cashes in seems a much harder way than necessary to get rich.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:18 PM (wM5Gx)

272

Neither I nor HilDog suck dick...

Posted by: Billy Cliton at April 07, 2016 04:18 PM (qul7b)

273 Probably feels time is no longer on his side and wants desperately to clean up his legacy.


Posted by: Jane D'oh


It has always amazed me that rich, powerful old men can't seem to give up their self-aggrandizing ways, even when they're staring into the abyss, and should be building a legacy so that they'll be fondly remembered, instead of the object of calumny and ridicule. Soros is a perfect example. Scorpions have to scorpion, I guess.

Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:18 PM (LAe3v)

274 >>>pretty sure bill has not slept with hildebeast since they were in college. who would?<<<

I'd be willing to bet that Hillary hasn't had heterosexual intercourse since Chelsea plopped out.

Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2016 04:19 PM (UzPAd)

275 Reality is coming, Obama.

MuHuHaHa -

Reality is coming FOR Obama!

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at April 07, 2016 04:19 PM (ucB75)

276 You can't take the magic out of "Magic Negro"

Posted by: Uncle Remis at April 07, 2016 04:20 PM (chuor)

277 To the imbeciles I've "friended," the last seven years have been glorious.


---

Maybe I'm shielded by living in the Once and Future Republic, but even the yellow dog democrats I know can't pretend things haven't sucked since the day the POS got in the white house.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 04:20 PM (Qvgg/)

278 It kills me that all these Historic Firsts aren't happening to people of genuine accomplishment but rather leftists who either rode a man's coattails (Hillary) or came to power via starting a cult (Obama)

Posted by: Kensington at April 07, 2016 04:21 PM (7Kbxu)

279 My dryer light went out 2 weeks ago & man is here to replace it.
BBL.

Posted by: Carol at April 07, 2016 04:21 PM (sj3Ax)

280 Look there just aren't enough productive people anymore to pay for the freeloaders. There is going to come a point at which you start to take so much from people who've actually earned it, they are going to fight back. Places like NJ, NY, CT and CA are going to find this out faster than anyone. People are moving to states where they can hang onto their own money.

There was a good report in one of the financial journals the other say how one hedge fund billionaire moving out of NJ is going to cause a huge hole in their budget. One man.

You can't keep giving out "free shit" when there is nobody left to pay for it.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 04:21 PM (O0lVq)

281
>>>But what bauble do they want that they can't buy right now?

I mean Al Gore is supposedly worth $200 million.

I get that greed can be insatiable, but the idea you have to continue this farce of a marriage and get your wife elected is the only way an Ex-President cashes in seems a much harder way than necessary to get rich.<<<<
The Clintons aren't rich in the circles they run in.
They hate that.
That's the problem for really greedy people, they always see someone else who has more and want to top them.

Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 04:21 PM (JTwsP)

282 It kills me that all these Historic Firsts aren't happening to people of genuine accomplishment

--

First for first's sake is often that way. The Jackie Robinsons' of the world are aberrations.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 04:22 PM (Qvgg/)

283
pretty sure bill has not slept with hildebeast since they were in college. who would?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:13 PM (ucDmr)
....................

Sometimes you gotta take one for the team.

Posted by: Huma at April 07, 2016 04:23 PM (HgMAr)

284
if the Lewinsky scandal never went down, you're saying he would not be helping his wife get elected right now?

I think it's just the addiction to power, but it still seems illogical to me.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (wM5Gx)
-------------------------

I think it's a factor, and I think sticking with the decades-long Plan might be an example of something called "escalation of commitment," which Hillary is probably also caught in. (Check it out at neo-neocon.)

It seems illogical to you AND me because we're normal, morally healthy people.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:23 PM (pC96u)

285 >>I get that greed can be insatiable, but the idea you have to continue
this farce of a marriage and get your wife elected is the only way an
Ex-President cashes in seems a much harder way than necessary to get
rich.


First, the Clintons have raked in billions w/their foundation. Given that less than 10% is ever spent on foundation works (building stuff in Haiti, etc.) this is just as lucrative as Gore's work. The foundation covers all of their living expenses.

Second, they want power. This has been an excellent vehicle for Bill to travel the world, speaking and meeting w/VIPs just as he did as president without most of the accountability to actually solve any of the issues he's discussing. This is what he loves, he was always a policy wonk, and he feeds off of the attention he gets by being a celebrity former president.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 04:23 PM (NOIQH)

286 There was a good report in one of the financial journals the other say
how one hedge fund billionaire moving out of NJ is going to cause a huge
hole in their budget. One man.

--

They even admitted in the article that 51% of the tax money comes from 1% of the population.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 04:24 PM (Qvgg/)

287
Bill looks extremely unhealthy. Probably feels time is no longer on his side and wants desperately to clean up his legacy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:16 PM (FsuaD)
..................

Like, with a cloth?

Posted by: wth at April 07, 2016 04:24 PM (HgMAr)

288 And what a treat. Obama says he wants to "hang around" Washington when his term is up.

Maybe they can put him in a dunk tank near the Washington monument so we can actually put his ass in the water after listening to his insults.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 04:24 PM (O0lVq)

289 Hmm. Color me shocked but nothing being said about the outright theft of delegates from Trump in Arizona?

Delegates that were voted on and won by Mr. Trump were superceded by those not precinct captains and now are the delegates?

I'm sure that everyone will claim that it's all Trump's fault for not playing the game.

Yet the facts are that thousands of voters votes have been disenfranchised by the GOPe.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 07, 2016 04:25 PM (Xo1Rt)

290 Look at me, Daddy!!!!

That's part of what both of them want.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 07, 2016 04:25 PM (T/5A0)

291 I did NOT miss television or newspapers for two weeks. However, everyone in S. Africa (the locals) were *very* interested in our politics. I had to *gently* explain to several sweet guides that Hillary is a criminal who should be in prison. So there was that.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (FsuaD)

Hi Jane!

When I went to Kenya in February, I had to explain my opposition to Obama to my Kenyan family and my opposition to Trump's candidacy. I told them I was opposed to both for pretty much the same reasons.

And I was straight with them. I said that they would care nothing about Obama were he not (allegedly) a Luo tribe member. (Our tribe.)

And I was sta

Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:25 PM (ys2UW)

292 Bill is that guy who, after you've hosted a dinner party, keeps drinking and talking after everyone else has left, until you're finally yawning, turning off the lights, and he still can't take a hint until you're showing him the door.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:26 PM (FsuaD)

293
The Clintons aren't rich in the circles they run in.
They hate that.
----------------

Exactly! They have to ride someone ELSE'S private jet, go to someone ELSE'S private island. They don't have a compound, an empire, an asset worth a billion dollars.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:26 PM (pC96u)

294 See what happens when you put your penis in places it doesn't belong. You get old and look like Bill.

Actually, maybe he did do The Hag and that's why he looks like that?

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 04:26 PM (O0lVq)

295 "They even admitted in the article that 51% of the tax money comes from 1% of the population"


Somebody screwed up.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:26 PM (LA7Cm)

296 There was a good report in one of the financial journals the other say
how one hedge fund billionaire moving out of NJ is going to cause a huge
hole in their budget. One man.
________________


I hope that guy has a good legal team, he'll probably be fighting with the state tax authorities for the next 10 years over whether he's still a resident.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:26 PM (wM5Gx)

297 Well, the blue dress came apart. Heh.

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at April 07, 2016 04:26 PM (Dwehj)

298 "to continue the, um, continuity of."

Gee, that was awkward.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2016 04:26 PM (1ijHg)

299 The Clintons aren't rich in the circles they run in.
They hate that.
----------------

Exactly! They have to ride someone ELSE'S private jet, go to someone ELSE'S private island. They don't have a compound, an empire, an asset worth a billion dollars.



Yet.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (SvnHQ)

300
They even admitted in the article that 51% of the tax money comes from 1% of the population.
Which is another reason why thetail wags the dog these days . . .

Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (JTwsP)

301 And really,I give not the slightest fuck what foreigners think about our presidential elections.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (B48dK)

302 So, she'd do the same as Bill? Have sex with women that weren't her spouse.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 03:53 PM (SvnHQ)
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She and Bill will have a quickie divorce. Hillary will then have a Big White House Wedding. AoS top commenters will be entered into a drawing for the chance to bake the phucking cake.

Posted by: RioBravo at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (NUqwG)

303 chelsea is not bill's spawn. that would be webb hubbel.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (ucDmr)

304
>>Billy Jeff just had another Sister Souljah moment. Went after
BLM protesters at his campaign event telling them their defending drug
dealers and murders


------------------------


Bill never got anywhere telling the Truth, before.



Why has he started, now?

Posted by: garrett at April 07, 2016 04:17 PM (TnP/y)


Clinton, like Lyndon Johnson, had racism burned deeply into his being, and like Johnson knew how to use blacks to his political advantage, mostly by treating them poorly in a way that was clever and cruel. Nothing breeds love like contempt from your betters.

Those guys did/do that so well, it's almost painful to watch.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (TOk1P)

305
First, the Clintons have raked in billions w/their foundation.
---------------------

I agree with a lot of what you said, but I think that as far as money goes, they're nowhere near where they want to be.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (pC96u)

306
Man, that Huma sucks a mean clit...

Posted by: Hillary!11!! at April 07, 2016 04:29 PM (qul7b)

307 >>I did NOT miss television or newspapers for two weeks. However, everyone
in S. Africa (the locals) were *very* interested in our politics. I had
to *gently* explain to several sweet guides that Hillary is a criminal
who should be in prison. So there was that.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:12 PM (FsuaD)
<<

That's a pleasant trip. The last time I was there the only thing I told the locals was that if I didn't see their hands or they picked up a weapon.. aad la dilli doono

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 04:29 PM (O0lVq)

308 NEWS FLASH!


UConn Huskies women's basketball team wins 4th straight NCAA Womens Basketball Championship

Posted by: AoSHq sports news desk at April 07, 2016 04:29 PM (HGc3Y)

309 chelsea is not bill's spawn. that would be webb hubbel.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM


webb hubbel is bill's spawn?

this shit is a lot more complexicated than I thought

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 07, 2016 04:30 PM (ZQfW9)

310 Delegates that were voted on and won by Mr. Trump were superceded by those not precinct captains and now are the delegates?

I'm sure that everyone will claim that it's all Trump's fault for not playing the game.

Yet the facts are that thousands of voters votes have been disenfranchised by the GOPe.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


______


If the ultimate "deal maker" fails at this stage, doesn't the entire foundation of why he'd make a great President go out the window?

You can cry foul all you want, but if Trump is not on the ticket despite coming in 1st, it sounds like like all that "winner" talk was smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:30 PM (wM5Gx)

311 Went after

BLM protesters at his campaign event telling them their defending drug

dealers and murders


Clinton, like Lyndon Johnson, had racism burned deeply into his being,

Racist? How ya figure? That there was the unvarnished truth.

Posted by: Bubba Clintoon at April 07, 2016 04:30 PM (Dwehj)

312 NEWSFLASH: William and Mary is still undefeated in all post-season, national championship games, in every sport.

Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (LAe3v)

313 Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:25 PM (ys2UW)



We had wonderful guides in Jo-burg, Pretoria, Cape Town, and in-between. All of them had fought against apartheid and personally knew Mandela. One guy we're staying in touch with, was imprisoned and tortured, but is for reconciliation and forgiveness. He despises the corrupt government they have in power now.


He asked us about our feelings on Obama, and we were frank. We told him race relations were a disaster under him, along with the economy and everything else. Cyril, our guide, said we weren't the first Americans to tell him that.


We came away with such a fondness for the lovely people we came to know over there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (FsuaD)

314
Bill never got anywhere telling the Truth, before.



Why has he started, now?<<<<

Theory: He's trying to create a news cycle consuming story because there is something they don't want to hit the news coming out like today or tomorrow.

Posted by: simplemind at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (JTwsP)

315 chelsea is webb's daughter. clear enough?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (ucDmr)

316 We are sending Bill Clinton to negotiate the release of the Syrian cement workers. It'll be great!

Posted by: His Magnificence, John al-Kerry at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (/m8T6)

317

I'd rather fcuk The Donald than The Hag...

Posted by: Billy Cliton at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (qul7b)

318 Pancreatic cancer is worse than having both brain and lung cancer at the same time.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (1ijHg)

319 I'm sure that everyone will claim that it's all Trump's fault for not playing the game.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 07, 2016 04:25 PM (Xo1Rt)


I've been told that right here in the comment section by our more-principled, intelligent betters.

Being a Republican, it turns out, means for the now #NeverTrump "principled true conservatives" what it always meant to the bow-tie wearing James Lileks of the world. It's something you say at a party to make yourself seem different, then you prevaricate for three hours until you've walked back to a moderate liberal stance.

Having strong principles you never act on is the same as not having any principles at all.

This embrace of the GOP as the best means to stop Trump turns the whole concept of "principled" true conservatives on its head. It's a bold stance with its tail in its mouth, consuming itself.

Sound and fury, signifying jack squat.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (xuouz)

320 >>this shit is a lot more complexicated than I thought

Forget it Jake, it's Arkansastown.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 04:32 PM (/tuJf)

321 I'm sure that everyone will claim that it's all Trump's fault for not playing the game.

The fact that you pointed it out first doesn't make it any less true.

Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:32 PM (LAe3v)

322 If my wife might need a pardon from someone I intensely disliked, I might keep my mouth shut.


Unless, of course, having her in the federal pen helped ME achieve MY goals ...

Posted by: RNR at April 07, 2016 04:32 PM (OuJcq)

323 263 244: Jane, you have more balls than me. I wouldn't walk anywhere over there.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 07, 2016 04:16 PM (ucDmr)

The most dangerous thing I did while in Nairobi was crossing the street. LA traffic is paradise in comparison.

Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:33 PM (ys2UW)

324
His position in history will be as the target of Congressional overreach, an impeachment on what most of the public regarded as trumped-up and with no prospect of a conviction.

-------------------------

Sober historians may say that, too, but I think Bill is too obsessive about his image to leave that blowjob as the most memorable event of his presidency.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:34 PM (pC96u)

325 312 NEWSFLASH: William and Mary is still undefeated in all post-season, national championship games, in every sport.
Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (LAe3v)
------------
Wow!

Well, the Cubs haven't lost a single game all year!!!
And Rizzo is on track to hit 81 home-runs this season!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 07, 2016 04:34 PM (T/5A0)

326 If the ultimate "deal maker" fails at this stage, doesn't the entire foundation of why he'd make a great President go out the window?
You can cry foul all you want, but if Trump is not on the ticket despite coming in 1st, it sounds like like all that "winner" talk was smoke and mirrors.
Posted by: Jeepers at April 07, 2016 04:30 PM (wM5Gx)

"Yeah, you won, but we're not giving you the trophy. Looks like that makes YOU the real loser, doesn't it, tiny-hands?"

If the candidate running against the "corrupt and incompetent government hacks" currently in power has his 1st place finish withheld through procedural gimmicks, he will still have won. Get it?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:34 PM (xuouz)

327 301 And really,I give not the slightest fuck what foreigners think about our presidential elections.
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:27 PM (B48dK)

Well, okay, but some others might find it interesting. Another perspective and all that.

Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:35 PM (ys2UW)

328 webb hubbel is bill's spawn?

this shit is a lot more complexicated than I thought

Posted by: AltonJackson


Bill got control of DARPA's prototype time machine for an afternoon. Sadly (or perhaps fortunately) his excursion got cut short when lightning destroyed the control center before a trip to the end of the 1st century BC, thus ensuring she would remain the Virgin Mary.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 04:35 PM (9krrF)

329

I hid jizz in the Oval Office. It'll be there forever...

Posted by: Billy Cliton at April 07, 2016 04:36 PM (qul7b)

330 the Great Black Dope

Ace is painting poetry again today!

Posted by: micky at April 07, 2016 04:36 PM (o5vMc)

331 Billy Jeff is learned his craft in Hot Springs, AR.

My uncle (RIP opthomalogist) referred to mob in Hot Springs as "a barrel of snakes."


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2016 04:36 PM (1ijHg)

332
Howie Carr is great. He is done with all the RINO's. He doesn't even care anymore.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 04:36 PM (vgEoS)

333 Delegates that were voted on and won by Mr. Trump were superceded by those not precinct captains and now are the delegates?

I'm sure that everyone will claim that it's all Trump's fault for not playing the game.

Yet the facts are that thousands of voters votes have been disenfranchised by the GOPe.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


______


If the ultimate "deal maker" fails at this stage, doesn't the entire foundation of why he'd make a great President go out the window?

You can cry foul all you want, but if Trump is not on the ticket despite coming in 1st, it sounds like like all that "winner" talk was smoke and mirrors.

---------


The delegates are still pledged to the Donald on the FIRST BALLOT. Cruz is trying to line up more support for the second, third and any following ballots. He is probably doing the same with Little Marcos and Kasich's delegates too.

Having determined conservatives voting on the rules, platform and everything else is just a bonus.

Cruz is fighting to win. I wish Romney and McCain tried to win.

Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 04:37 PM (v0YLX)

334
Howie just wiped his bum with John Sununu and Karl Rove.

Posted by: Douchepickle says What? at April 07, 2016 04:37 PM (vgEoS)

335 If the candidate running against the "corrupt and incompetent government
hacks" currently in power has his 1st place finish withheld through
procedural gimmicks, he will still have won. Get it?


And if the candidate can't deal with the hacks in his own party, why would you assume he'll be able to deal with those in the other party? Capisce?

Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:37 PM (LAe3v)

336 Sidebar Carson-Don't try to help so much, okay.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:37 PM (LA7Cm)

337 Like I said earlier today, I don't know what I'll do if we end up with a nominee not named either Trump or Cruz.
As seems more and more likely.
I blame the dumbass #NeverTrump cadre, specially NRO.
Too elevated to actually endorse anyone until it's too late.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:37 PM (nbrY/)

338 327 I meant no offense to you.Just that I remember "the world" was so excited about Obama and how great he was.This was supposed to be important after hated cowboy Bush.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:38 PM (B48dK)

339 NEWS FLASH!

Bill and Hillary are indicted.

Oops. It's not April Fools Day anymore.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2016 04:38 PM (1ijHg)

340 Google, "Bill Clinton," + "Dixie Mafia."

Posted by: davidt at April 07, 2016 04:38 PM (8aOqE)

341 Billy Jeff is learned his craft in Hot Springs, AR.

My uncle (RIP opthomalogist) referred to mob in Hot Springs as "a barrel of snakes."



Dixie Mafia? Or is that limited to TN/KY?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 04:38 PM (SvnHQ)

342 We had wonderful guides in Jo-burg, Pretoria, Cape Town, and in-between. All of them had fought against apartheid and personally knew Mandela. One guy we're staying in touch with, was imprisoned and tortured, but is for reconciliation and forgiveness. He despises the corrupt government they have in power now.


He asked us about our feelings on Obama, and we were frank. We told him race relations were a disaster under him, along with the economy and everything else. Cyril, our guide, said we weren't the first Americans to tell him that.


We came away with such a fondness for the lovely people we came to know over there.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (FsuaD)

Very cool. My trip to Kenya was for more personal reasons (to see my father). But I love the place and hope to make a longer trip in the near future. And I miss my family.

And it's good to know that other Americans are getting the word out about Obama.

Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:39 PM (ys2UW)

343 I also seem to recall them interviweing foreigners about Clinton."He is like JFK" the said.Yeah,in many ways as it turned out,

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:39 PM (B48dK)

344 As I understand it, the Chicagp mob moved down there in the 30's and took over.


Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at April 07, 2016 04:39 PM (1ijHg)

345 338 327 I meant no offense to you.Just that I remember "the world" was so excited about Obama and how great he was.This was supposed to be important after hated cowboy Bush.
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:38 PM (B48dK)

That's one thing in favor of Trump.
All the idjits who loved TFG are so afraid of Mr
Short-Finger

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:40 PM (nbrY/)

346 Wow, I didn't know was on "Justified", Wynn Duffy Dixie Mafia

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 07, 2016 04:40 PM (suO/a)

347 The fact that you pointed it out first doesn't make it any less true.
Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:32 PM (LAe3v)

He plays the PR game for keeps and gets excoriated for it.

He won't play the backroom delegate poaching game and gets excoriated for it.

There is no logic behind the either support or opposition to him. It's emotional. It's aesthetic.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:41 PM (xuouz)

348 Millions and millions and millions and millions of people look at that pretty picture of America [Obama] painted and they cannot find themselves in it to save their lives,"

*****

Welcome to MY world!

Posted by: Waldo at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (Dy5Cx)

349 And if the candidate can't deal with the hacks in his own party, why would you assume he'll be able to deal with those in the other party? Capisce?
Posted by: pep at April 07, 2016 04:37 PM (LAe3v)

As soon as I see evidence that he can't deal with them, I'll agree with you wholeheartedly.

We won't know for sure for another 101 days.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (xuouz)

350 I just had 2 of my sisters idiot in laws tell me that the Europeans want Hillary because she is stable,and Obama brought stability.What the fuck do I care what Euros want?

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (B48dK)

351 The. Great. Black. Dope.


That, my friends, is art. Nay! Fine literature.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (wrO39)

352 Both Clintons will be worm dirt in the next 20 years. They will be answering to someone else. And if you don't believe in a higher power, you still have the fact that the worm dirt part doesn't change.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 07, 2016 04:43 PM (tm6wE)

353 338 327 I meant no offense to you.Just that I remember "the world" was so excited about Obama and how great he was.This was supposed to be important after hated cowboy Bush.
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:38 PM (B48dK)

I know.

And "the world" is no more deluded about Obama the are 50% of Americans. Also, the Kenyan/South African man-on-the-street did not vote for BHO. Americans did, many of the being our relatives.

Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:43 PM (ys2UW)

354 When I think of the typical delegate it's someone who makes their living from being connected to government. Now there will be true-believing Constitutionalists and Tea Partiers in the mix, but most of the delegates -- even the ones pledged to Trump or Cruz on the first ballot -- will vote their personal best interest if they can.

Why do we think that Cruz will be successful at planting the necessary hundreds and hundreds of "his" people in as delegates to win after the first ballot.

When word comes down from the Inner Party that Rent Seeking delegates should vote for Romney/Ryan/Whoever if they know what's good for them, how do you think they're going to vote?

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 07, 2016 04:44 PM (r1fLd)

355 ",and Obama brought stability"


Europeans apparently use that word differently than we Americans do.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 04:44 PM (LA7Cm)

356 355 I managed to avoid a scene,it was Easter after all.Just went and played video games with the nephew.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:45 PM (B48dK)

357 the = them

Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:45 PM (ys2UW)

358 Of course Europeans want a Socialist goverment here because that's what they are.

Posted by: Skip at April 07, 2016 04:45 PM (HGc3Y)

359 When Bill Clinton speaks it just emphasizes what a terrible, cold, fake speaker Hillary is.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:46 PM (nbrY/)

360 ",and Obama brought stability"
Europeans apparently use that word differently than we Americans do.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill>>>

If you have no ability to move you are stable. Or dead.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 07, 2016 04:46 PM (tf9Ne)

361 Hmm. Color me shocked but nothing being said about the outright theft of delegates from Trump in Arizona?

Delegates that were voted on and won by Mr. Trump were superceded by those not precinct captains and now are the delegates?

I'm sure that everyone will claim that it's all Trump's fault for not playing the game.

Yet the facts are that thousands of voters votes have been disenfranchised by the GOPe.


Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at April 07, 2016 04:25 PM (Xo1Rt)

Delegates were not voted on and won by Trump... a primary was. 27 delegates are chosen by district convention and by the district delegates and 28 delegates are chosen at the state convention. They are all bound for the first ballot and after that they are unbound. The district and state delegates are free to choose any of the delegates to the RNC they want (so long as those delegates are candidates)... whether those delegates support Trump or not.

This is not new... the process was known (or knowable) to all candidates going in. So, yeah, it is Trump's fault if he did not make sure that there was slates of Trump favorable delegates for the state and district conventions to vote on (or did not recruit delegates to those conventions to do the voting).

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 04:46 PM (3JA/M)

362 359
When Bill Clinton speaks it just emphasizes what a terrible, cold, fake speaker Hillary is.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:46 PM (nbrY/)


At least she has that warm, happy laugh going for her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2016 04:47 PM (FsuaD)

363 Yeah, and the usual suspects are already running with the "OMG the rest of the world is LAUGHING AT US because of Trump!" narrative.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I couldn't care less if anybody is laughing at us over him. I learned when I was in school not to get to wound up by people laughing at me. Why haven't all these liberals learned that?

Posted by: Kensington at April 07, 2016 04:47 PM (7Kbxu)

364 "I just had 2 of my sisters idiot in laws tell me that the Europeans want Hillary because she is stable,and Obama brought stability.What the fuck do I care what Euros want?
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (B48dK)"

Obama stabilized Syria, Iraq and Libya so well that half the people left or are leaving.

Those two million Muslim invaders from Syria, Libya, and everywhere else are stabilizing the hell out of Europe right now. Just aske the French and the Belgians.

Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 04:48 PM (v0YLX)

365
When I think of the typical delegate it's someone who makes their living
from being connected to government. Now there will be true-believing
Constitutionalists and Tea Partiers in the mix, but most of the
delegates -- even the ones pledged to Trump or Cruz on the first ballot
-- will vote their personal best interest if they can.



Why do we think that Cruz will be successful at planting the
necessary hundreds and hundreds of "his" people in as delegates to win
after the first ballot.



When word comes down from the Inner Party that Rent Seeking
delegates should vote for Romney/Ryan/Whoever if they know what's good
for them, how do you think they're going to vote?

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 07, 2016 04:44 PM (r1fLd)

What you think of the typical delegate is wrong.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 04:48 PM (3JA/M)

366 350 I just had 2 of my sisters idiot in laws tell me that the Europeans want Hillary because she is stable,and Obama brought stability.What the fuck do I care what Euros want?
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (B48dK)

Because if anything can define "stable", particularly over the past year, it's definitely Europe, right? *rolls eyes*.

Btw, will these Euros still say that after June 23, when Obama (and David Cameron) fail to convince a majority of Brits to leave that retched "union" known as the EU?

Posted by: Ongoing EU political crisis at April 07, 2016 04:48 PM (lNxD2)

367 Joe, I agree with you on then work dirt thing, and that's satisfying.

But I have three Kids aged 19, 16 and 8. Hillary is a dangerous, evil person who is so incompetent that there is a very good chance that my Kids will be joining Hill and Bill in the ol' Dirt Nap within the next 20 years.

Not so satisfying.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 07, 2016 04:48 PM (wrO39)

368 Posted by: Ignoramus at April 07, 2016 04:44 PM (r1fLd)

Here in PA, top of the delegate list is our Chamber of Commerce congress critter. All the rest of the party-endorsed slate are of a similar cloth. I seriously doubt that Cruz has any delegate that will make it through. And these are mostly unbound.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:49 PM (nbrY/)

369
Haw-haw, the left is freaking out a little over his BLM remark.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 04:49 PM (pC96u)

370 Shorter Trumpophobe response to Bitter Clinger's AZ delegate post:

"Yes, Trump's delegates are fair game, because he is an unperson unfit for office, and if you don't like it you just don't get it."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:49 PM (xuouz)

371 Assuming he wants his wife to be president, which some people doubt.

I wonder about that. I would assume that he knows better than anybody what a psychotic bitch Hillary is.

Posted by: rickl at April 07, 2016 04:49 PM (zoehZ)

372 353 338 327 I meant no offense to you.Just that I remember "the world" was so excited about Obama and how great he was.This was supposed to be important after hated cowboy Bush.
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:38 PM (B48dK)

I know.

And "the world" is no more deluded about Obama the are 50% of Americans. Also, the Kenyan/South African man-on-the-street did not vote for BHO. Americans did, many of the being our relatives.
Posted by: baldilocks at April 07, 2016 04:43 PM (ys2UW)

I actually had a conversation about Obama with a couple of Kenyan men when I was in Kenya in January. They weren't impressed.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 07, 2016 04:50 PM (hJrjt)

373 0 I just had 2 of my sisters idiot in laws tell me that the Europeans want Hillary because she is stable,and Obama brought stability.What the fuck do I care what Euros want?
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (B48dK)



Look at the bright side:

The dumb bitches probably look better in burqas anyway.

Posted by: rd at April 07, 2016 04:50 PM (v0YLX)

374 Maybe President Hillary! has a plan to annex Bill's favorite Caribbean getaway spot.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 07, 2016 04:50 PM (hqZPQ)

375 -

I just had 2 of my sisters idiot in laws tell me that the Europeans want
Hillary because she is stable,and Obama brought stability.What the fuck
do I care what Euros want?

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM
-----------------

Ask them how they stand on the European penchant for importing rapists by the bushel.

Posted by: irright at April 07, 2016 04:51 PM (pMGkg)

376 What if Hillary promised to make Bill her VP.
And stop with the against the rules thing.
Rules schmools

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:51 PM (nbrY/)

377 >>Yes, Trump's delegates are fair game, because he is an unperson unfit for office, and if you don't like it you just don't get it."

Even shorter.

If you want to play, learn the fucking rules. Whining is for losers.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 04:51 PM (/tuJf)

378 Three million victims of 'stability' are invading Western European countries as we speak, committing rapes, robberies, and planning terrorist attacks.

Some legacy.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 04:51 PM (Qvgg/)

379 Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:31 PM (xuouz)

Have you ever read Lileks?

Because he isn't a "moderate liberal."


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 04:52 PM (Zu3d9)

380 Nood. Could be fun.

Posted by: HH at April 07, 2016 04:52 PM (DrCtv)

381 Shorter Trumpophobe response to Bitter Clinger's AZ delegate post:



"Yes, Trump's delegates are fair game, because he is an unperson
unfit for office, and if you don't like it you just don't get it."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:49 PM (xuouz)

No, shorter response is this: If Trump can't get to 1237 on the first ballot, then he likely won't win.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 04:52 PM (3JA/M)

382 On the subject of greed, from the Observer- Panama Papers Reveal Clintons Kremlin Connection
http://tinyurl.com/jmvl3o5
For the Clintons aspiring to be uber-rich, this country contains a lot to offer, to sell.

Posted by: The Clintons Will Make America a Market Economy Again! at April 07, 2016 04:52 PM (Fy9KA)

383 See what happens when you put your penis in places it doesn't belong. You get old and look like Bill.Actually, maybe he did do The Hag and that's why he looks like that?

*****


The Penis of Dorian Gray

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 07, 2016 04:52 PM (Dy5Cx)

384 Even shorter.



If you want to play, learn the fucking rules. Whining is for losers.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 04:51 PM (/tuJf)

This too.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 04:53 PM (3JA/M)

385 If you want to play, learn the fucking rules. Whining is for losers.>>>

And if they want all those Trump votes in November the pissin on peoples heads and telling them it's raining may not be the best way to play it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 07, 2016 04:53 PM (tf9Ne)

386 Even shorter.
If you want to play, learn the fucking rules. Whining is for losers.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 04:51 PM (/tuJf)

Who's the one whining, clownshoes? Scoreboard. Good on Ted: I've never rooted against him once.

But if the situation were reversed, this would be "more evidence Trump is as corrupt as any democrat" and the gnashing of teeth would be audible.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:55 PM (xuouz)

387 Lileks is a bow-tie wearing goofball, that's why I mentioned him. I like the guy he's just the perfect image of a cocktail party republican.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 04:56 PM (xuouz)

388 The only man whose length of fingers I care about is my proctologist.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 07, 2016 04:57 PM (Y+WkZ)

389 And if they want all those Trump votes in November the pissin on peoples heads and telling them it's raining may not be the best way to play it.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 07, 2016 04:53 PM (tf9Ne)

I don't think they want the voters. They want to lose to the Dems and keep their phoney baloney jobs as the Washington Generals.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:57 PM (nbrY/)

390 Once again for effect. Trump supporters are just like Trump.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 07, 2016 05:00 PM (tm6wE)

391 Can Cruz win at the Convention? You have to believe that (1) Trump won't get to 1,237 and (2) Cruz can cut the GOPe out of the process by stacking the delegates.

#1 is certainly possible. I'm very skeptical about #2.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 07, 2016 05:00 PM (r1fLd)

392 >>And if they want all those Trump votes in November the pissin on peoples heads and telling them it's raining may not be the best way to play it.

Yes, because Trump and his supporters have been such a delight this primary.

You don't want to vote because you are upset at the way the other team fought while you were tossing daisies, don't vote. That makes a ton of sense. But don't blame anyone but yourself.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 05:00 PM (/tuJf)

393 I don't think they want the voters. They want to lose to the Dems and keep their phoney baloney jobs as the Washington Generals.
Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 04:57 PM (nbrY/)

Which doesn't explain the hankering for same exhibited by commenters here, who gain NOTHING from further GOPe/Dem control of the White House.

I think it's Jewish Mother Syndrome: the truecon right has gotten used to their 'sighing and carefully explaining things to the rubes' routine. There are no good solutions to the problems we face, and the kernel of truecon republicanism has become an abstract perfect solution that the country has decayed too much to be possible.

They're perfect, they've just been passed by.

Well fucking thanks for checking in on us, guys.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 05:00 PM (xuouz)

394 O/T Because we're around 400 dammit:

I found a tank top for the 'ettes.

http://tinyurl.com/h6lwf3v

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 05:03 PM (9krrF)

395 Yes, because Trump and his supporters have been such a delight this primary.
You don't want to vote because you are upset at the way the other team fought while you were tossing daisies, don't vote. That makes a ton of sense. But don't blame anyone but yourself.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 05:00 PM (/tuJf)

I was always mystified by the Denethors and Cyphers, the collaborators of heroic fiction.

Now that I see it in person I'm still mystified.

Supporting Cruz instead of Trump is fine. Making Trump supporters out to be the REAL enemy, even more than the left.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 05:03 PM (xuouz)

396 Is not.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 05:04 PM (xuouz)

397 There's a nood, I just love sticking around and smothering threads with a pillow.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 05:04 PM (xuouz)

398 Once again for effect. Trump supporters are just like Trump.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 07, 2016 05:00 PM (tm6wE)

Word.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at April 07, 2016 05:11 PM (xuouz)

399 GoK, you here two hour
You go now

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 05:18 PM (nbrY/)

400 "I sometimes wonder if as conservatives we would just be better off
making the Democrat Party more centrist than trying to influence
Republican races."

____________________________

Why didn't I think of that?

Posted by: Jim Webb at April 07, 2016 05:42 PM (RfZaB)

401 "Hillary Clinton is forced to play a half-in, half-out game on
continuity, because Obama's braindead zombie cultists absolutely demand
that he be shown that 'respect.'"
________________________________

In fairness to Obama (I can't believe I wrote that) she's forced to play a half-in, half-out game with her husband's Presidency/her co-Presidency (VCCLEA, PRWORA, GLB, DADT, DOMA) her term as a Senator (Iraq, Gay Marriage), and as Secretary of State (Libya).

I expect John Kerry to become the designated bag-holder for her flops as SecState.




Posted by: Alec Leamas at April 07, 2016 05:55 PM (RfZaB)

402 "Because he's a bad president who's a prisoner of his relentless dogmatism for his bad, musty-smell-of-1968 ideas" That's awesome!

Posted by: BFD at April 07, 2016 06:26 PM (gaZBl)

403 "clownshoes"


Bbwwahhhaaaa!!

Posted by: jacke at April 07, 2016 07:22 PM (i8Shl)

404 Clinton does have a point. The world was not on fire during his admin. His pants were! Thankyou. Thankyou.

Posted by: Colin at April 07, 2016 10:32 PM (e6kc2)

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