Thursday Morning News Dump (4/7/16) [Misanthropic Humanitarian]

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1 Morning.

Posted by: HH at April 07, 2016 08:09 AM (DrCtv)

2 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:10 AM (SvnHQ)

3 Puerto Rico needs to be spun off as a failing business division.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:11 AM (qjrXu)

4 Yay! Dump!

Posted by: EC at April 07, 2016 08:12 AM (j8YpL)

5 Puerto Rico needs to be spun off as a failing business division.

Along with California.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:12 AM (SvnHQ)

6 PR is useless,we can't even practice bombing and shelling on it since they closed the range there.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 08:14 AM (B48dK)

7 re: Chelsea

Those who can, do.
Those who can't do, teach.
Those who can't teach, threaten to become a Pediatric Cardiologist
Those who can't hack 14 years of school and training, go into journalism.
Those who can't do journalism, run for political office.

She is simultaneously a prime etiology and a major symptom of our current national malady.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 07, 2016 08:16 AM (NeFrd)

8 7 Still getting a free pass from the media as a "child".

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 08:18 AM (B48dK)

9 That only 'good' thing of Chelsea running, she might step on the wrong toes because she thinks she's already a big fish.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:18 AM (qjrXu)

10 Circa cancels PayPal plans.

Damn, I am sooooooo sick of this bullshit virtue signalling on issues of exactly zero meaningful import.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 08:18 AM (659DL)

11 People across the street getting a tree removed.What a fucking racket.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 08:19 AM (B48dK)

12 Re: the Alibaba headline, I've long thought that People of Walmart wasca form of corporate sabotage.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 07, 2016 08:19 AM (GDulk)

13 5
Puerto Rico needs to be spun off as a failing business division.

Along with California.

Hollywood, California is moving East to Atlanta. That includes all of it's supporting cast of movie and production business.

Atlanta is already indistinguishable from any other filthy-lefty blue city. I predict that Hollywood will destroy it completely within 10 years.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 07, 2016 08:20 AM (DkNEg)

14 Those who can't do journalism, run for political office.

Those who can't get elected go to work for the family money laundering business.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 08:20 AM (659DL)

15 Good morning Morons!

No new polls have entered the RCP average, so Trump remains at -10.8% against Clinton. I hesitate to venture to speculate that Cruz could be the nominee, but if he were, he is currently -3.1% against Clinton.

There are no changes in the Cook Report, so the Democrats remain poised to pick up at least 4 Senate and 12 House seats.

One interesting point is the that the one Democrat seat that is a toss up is Nevada. Control of the Senate could very well hinge on the GOP taking that seat.

Oh, and Sharon Angle is planning to run for that seat again. Let that soak in for a moment before giving in to despair.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 08:20 AM (+UCDf)

16 She is simultaneously a prime etiology and a major symptom of our current national malady.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 07, 2016 08:16 AM (NeFrd

the kid who gets thru HS and goes to tech school and becomes a mechanic or a drywall installer gathers more respect from me then this piece of spawn.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:20 AM (voOPb)

17 Wow, I could spend all day here. MisHum truly is the "Maet O' The Morn".

Posted by: t-bird at April 07, 2016 08:21 AM (mxCgt)

18 Perhaps Chelsea will follow Amy Carter's career path, end up working for Daddy's foundation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:21 AM (qjrXu)

19 Atlanta is already indistinguishable from any other
filthy-lefty blue city. I predict that Hollywood will destroy it
completely within 10 years.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 07, 2016 08:20 AM (DkNEg)

Yeah. They're gonna finish what we started.

Posted by: Detroit Transplants at April 07, 2016 08:23 AM (jIgQw)

20 I know the Alibaba is ZeroHedge, but there is a fascinating link at the top of that ZH page that is worth a read regarding the journalistic integrity of the Panama papers disclosures, basically your political betters at work for themselves, not you, surprise!

http://tinyurl.com/husb5zg

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 08:23 AM (wYnyS)

21 I'm to beat to read the dump

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 08:24 AM (V/InG)

22 Alibaba link

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 08:24 AM (wYnyS)

23 NBC is so confident of Hillary's ascension they are already starting to speculate on her Veep choice.

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 08:25 AM (/m8T6)

24 >>Perhaps Chelsea will follow Amy Carter's career path, end up working for Daddy's foundation.

Chelsea already does work for the foundation.
Apparently she's weighing additional options.
NYC morons: would Chelsea survive NYC politics?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:25 AM (NOIQH)

25 NYC morons: would Chelsea survive NYC politics?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:25 AM (NOIQH)

Those Webb Hubbell lips would provide a formidable defense.

Posted by: Golfman at April 07, 2016 08:26 AM (jIgQw)

26 Didn't PayPal follow Holder's suggestion and stopped allowing its services to be used for gun-related purchases?

Screw them.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:27 AM (NOIQH)

27 Today is national Beer day. ISIS kills people who drink beer.

And Obama says we are not at war?

Posted by: Roy at April 07, 2016 08:27 AM (VndSC)

28 Seamus

I saw the correction on the last thread about the two pediatric organizations.

*sigh*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2016 08:27 AM (ptqRm)

29 Impressive dump!

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 08:27 AM (nbrY/)

30 Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 08:23 AM (wYnyS)

There is a deep body of historical scholarship on the "Crisis of the 17th Century." It was economic, political, religious, and social.

We're there. Most are still in denial.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 08:27 AM (659DL)

31 Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 08:20 AM (+UCDf)

Not to worry, nearly all of the "solid severely conservative" GOPe leadership will continue to wallow in perks, privilege, and power no matter how the elections turn out.

I am reminded of the old African proverb:

"When the elephants dance, it is always the grass that gets trampled!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 08:28 AM (wYnyS)

32 Man, that's a huge dump.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 08:28 AM (M//Qk)

33 21 I'm to beat to read the dump
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 08:24 AM (V/InG)

Stay for the comments

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:28 AM (voOPb)

34 *sigh*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

****

Yeah. I suspect that 70:2 ratio is about right across society.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at April 07, 2016 08:28 AM (NeFrd)

35 My Sirius XM listening to Fox News has been mostly boring. This morning they are doing memorials for Merle Haggard. I'm not a country fan, so it isn't a draw for me.

Last night was amusing though. Eric Bolling is going through denial and bargaining at the same time. He has been insufferable for months anyway, with his "delegate count math" that refused to account for how delegates are actually selected. So now he has egg on his face trying to explain how Trump might not get to 1237. He and Gillfoil keep hanging their hat on Trump winning New York, and ignoring that Trump winning there has already been priced into the scenarios where Trump comes up short.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 08:28 AM (+UCDf)

36 "etiology"???

Seriously? No puns this AM so we get erudite scholarship?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 07, 2016 08:28 AM (C9pBZ)

37 So......if you can persuade the local government where you live to pass a religious protection act or some such does that mean all the libtard companies and their followers will boycott you and not visit or relocate to your area?

Sounds good to me.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 07, 2016 08:29 AM (ej1L0)

38 Is Keith Richards really 286 years old, or is that just an internet rumor?

http://tinyurl.com/zgzw9jd

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 08:29 AM (/m8T6)

39 This morning they are doing memorials for Merle Haggard. I'm not a country fan, so it isn't a draw for me.

...
...
...

Commie.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 08:30 AM (659DL)

40 Is Keith Richards really 286 years old?

Nah.

325.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 07, 2016 08:30 AM (C9pBZ)

41 I'll bring it over here, I guess...

Did we ever note the Navy guy who burned himself to death in front of the VA? I'm only just hearing about it...

"Charles Richard Ingram III, a seven-year veteran of the US Navy, committed suicide by self-immolation on March 19 in front of the VA Community Based Outpatient Clinic in Northfield, New Jersey"

From what I'm reading he walked 9 miles to do it - with a gas can? I don't know. There are some articles around on it. I can't tell if he was protesting the care at the VA or something else, but you'd think if he was in care and this suicidal they'd have recognized the danger... but I guess not.

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 08:30 AM (3ZtZW)

42 I love the way National Beer Day guy is going right to the barrel. Git some!

Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2016 08:30 AM (UzPAd)

43 In regards to the fireman and his children who were killed by one of Jeb!'s needin' love folks, there's a GoFundMe set up for the family:

https://www.gofundme.com/rawzyq3g

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:30 AM (rlfds)

44 Is Keith Richards really 286 years old, or is that just an internet rumor?

We'll never know. There is no material in existence that can be used to construct a saw to cut him half and count the rings.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 08:31 AM (659DL)

45 41 I'll bring it over here, I guess...

Did we ever note the Navy guy who burned himself to death in front of the VA? I'm only just hearing about it...

"Charles Richard Ingram III, a seven-year veteran of the US Navy, committed suicide by self-immolation on March 19 in front of the VA Community Based Outpatient Clinic in Northfield, New Jersey"

From what I'm reading he walked 9 miles to do it - with a gas can? I don't know. There are some articles around on it. I can't tell if he was protesting the care at the VA or something else, but you'd think if he was in care and this suicidal they'd have recognized the danger... but I guess not.
Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 08:30 AM (3ZtZW)

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Another dead vet is a feature for those fucks.

Surprised they didn't bust out the marshmallows.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:32 AM (rlfds)

46 7 Still getting a free pass from the media as a "child".

Yeah. Us "old as Vic" types recall a time when POTUS kids were fair comedy game, then the clintoons went all jihad on SNL...

It was the coming out party for our mandarin class.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 07, 2016 08:32 AM (C9pBZ)

47 Re: Corporate fascism in general, and Paypal in particular. My wife cancelled our Lands End catalogue and lit up the customer service rep. who had the misfortune to answer her call. (She did it b/c LE featured the abortion fan Gloria Steinem in their Easter catalogue.) The rep sounded weary, and worried. She had obviously been taking tons of those calls. IOW, it works. Fight this shit at every turn.
Also, Paypal blows. I have a friend who has a "maker" business, and he has lots of stories about Paypal freezing 10s of thousands of dollars from his customers accounts b/c of perceived violations in their fascist business practices.
Also, Paypal sucks.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 07, 2016 08:32 AM (SeD0w)

48 43 In regards to the fireman and his children who were killed by one of Jeb!'s needin' love folks, there's a GoFundMe set up for the family:

https://www.gofundme.com/rawzyq3g
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:30 AM (rlfds

Thanks for posting that SMFH.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:33 AM (voOPb)

49 @37. Smart people should realize this country is so divided that a peaceful separation would be a good thing.

Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at April 07, 2016 08:35 AM (I0sxh)

50 No problem, MisHum.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:36 AM (rlfds)

51 49 @37. Smart people should realize this country is so divided that a peaceful separation would be a good thing.
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at April 07, 2016 08:35 AM (I0sxh)

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Which is why I don't think it will be peaceful.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:37 AM (rlfds)

52 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 07, 2016 08:37 AM (ZQfW9)

53 Good morning, Horde. Consider the possibility that it is 1860, and Obama is our Buchanan. Just wanted to toss that out there.

May your hell be fresh and your day be tolerable.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 07, 2016 08:37 AM (v9gSJ)

54 Maggies links to this hilarious jump-the-shark story of a lesbian WaPo writer trying to raise her cats cisnormative. Cats. Lesbians. Gender-neutral. This story has almost everything, missing only a Neil deGrasse Tyson reference and, perhaps, fears of Trump chalking. Oh well, you can't have everything.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=70714

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 08:37 AM (/m8T6)

55 Perhaps leaving the trees was a bad idea.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:38 AM (qjrXu)

56 That WashPost article on the PP video guy's arrest is written by their "Social Change Reporter" - gee, how could you tell?

A spokeswoman for California Attorney General Kamala Harris(D) said she
could not comment on an ongoing investigation. But the raid confirms
that California is among the states looking into possible criminal
activity on the part of Daleiden and his organization, theCenter for
Medical Progress,which have been the center of controversy since
releasing videos purporting to show that Planned Parenthoodillegally
sells fetal tissue for a profit.

Uh, no, PP was at the center of the controversy....because *admitted to* selling fetal tissue, and illegally modifying the abortion procedures used to best recover the requested organs.

Cannot believe the whistle-blowers are being charged while the PP monsters are not.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH)

57 54 Maggies links to this hilarious jump-the-shark story of a lesbian WaPo writer trying to raise her cats cisnormative. Cats. Lesbians. Gender-neutral. This story has almost everything, missing only a Neil deGrasse Tyson reference and, perhaps, fears of Trump chalking. Oh well, you can't have everything.

http://moonbattery.com/?p=70714
Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 08:37 AM (/m8T6)

That's almost as bad as Vegans trying their dogs into little vegans. Unclear on the concept.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 07, 2016 08:39 AM (v9gSJ)

58 Oh, and Sharon Angle is planning to run for that seat again. Let that soak in for a moment before giving in to despair.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

Buck up little camper. We have top men working on this.

Posted by: Sen Thad Cochran (R-ace baiter) at April 07, 2016 08:39 AM (326rv)

59 *waves to Anna*

Seriously considering going back to bed myself.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:39 AM (rlfds)

60 45 41 I'll bring it over here, I guess...

Did we ever note the Navy guy who burned himself to death in front of the VA? I'm only just hearing about it...
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I posted a Michelle Malkin column on it yesterday, which I highly recommend to everyone interested in reading more.

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 08:39 AM (/m8T6)

61 In the "reminiscing about our misspent youth" category,

Zippy has an article about the reach out program in North Charleston trying to control gang violence.

One of the areas mentioned is Remount Road.

Many many years ago, in a former life, every Navy ships Engineers basically had a bar in the Charleston area which was "Their" Bar.

And when the ship was in home port, that was almost like home for many of the single Sailors in the Engineering Department.

Our was the Corner Bar, in the back if the little strip mall on the NE corner of Rivers and Remount roads.

It's long been torn down, and replaced by a huge gas station.

But those were some good times.

Except for the time I walked out the door, and some guy with a shotgun put the muzzle against my forehead because of something someone else did. And we both stood like that till the Cops showed up.

But for the most part......good times.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2016 08:39 AM (ptqRm)

62 Perhaps leaving the trees was a bad idea.

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Forget the trees. We shouldn't have even left the oceans.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (KUaJL)

63 Cannot believe the whistle-blowers are being charged while the PP monsters are not.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH

I use to hold those beliefs Lizzy. But, not now. Evil is good. Good is evil. And unnatural is natural.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (voOPb)

64 Ale is sort of beer, right?

and what might be an alternative to PayPal?

At the rate my hard embargo list is growing, I may be reduced to home-grown veggies, meat club meat, Mystic Monk coffee and all second-hand clothes and books from the thrift shops.

Posted by: Sal at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (MRX6w)

65 NBC is so confident of Hillary's ascension they are already starting to speculate on her Veep choice.

Well, Che Guevara's dead so he may be out.

Maybe.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (DkNEg)

66 G'mornin Horde !

Was in Wisconsin yesterday and bought a case of New Glarus Spotted Cow Ale, so I'm all set for National Beer Day. Yay !

At the old Berghoff in downtown Chicago they had a big framed photograph of the first day of the return of drinking.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (gUoN4)

67 Which is why I don't think it will be peaceful.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:37 AM (rlfds)

The last civil war was preceded by a contested GOP convention. I'm thinking symptom.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 08:41 AM (nbrY/)

68 Still getting a free pass from the media as a "child".

Speaking of which, I'm off to Jeffrey's Island...for the children!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at April 07, 2016 08:42 AM (ZxmMG)

69 66 G'mornin Horde !

Was in Wisconsin yesterday and bought a case of New Glarus Spotted Cow Ale, so I'm all set for National Beer Day. Yay !

At the old Berghoff in downtown Chicago they had a big framed photograph of the first day of the return of drinking.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (gUoN4

Great beer i've been told.
Liberal jerk liberal owner

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:42 AM (voOPb)

70 Cannot believe the whistle-blowers are being charged while the PP monsters are not.
Posted by: Lizzy

Then you haven't been paying attention. I've set a record for going after whistle blowers AND investigating reporters that that dare do their jobs.

Posted by: JEF at April 07, 2016 08:42 AM (326rv)

71 SMFH, I have been thinking that also. But I probably should at least pare down the 6,000 word chapter first. Or start on it.

Morning festivities almost started during cat feeding when the princess tried to bring a mouse into the house. Luckily was at the door, caught her, and immediately turned her around. So they all could chase the mouse. I closed the door quickly after dumping the dry food.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:42 AM (qjrXu)

72 Cannot believe the whistle-blowers are being charged while the PP monsters are not.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH)

Think of it as observing everything through the Alice's Looking Glass, except everything on the other side is completely evil and deranged. Then it all makes sense, not very comforting, but it makes sense!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 08:43 AM (wYnyS)

73 Can't you just feel Armageddon sneaking up behind us, while our ridiculous society worries about preventing (and prosecuting) free speech and legal protection for transgendered dragons, getting ready to hit us over the head with a lead pipe?

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 08:43 AM (/m8T6)

74 >>...ump-the-shark story of a lesbian WaPo writer trying to raise her cats cisnormative.

LOL. Love how she thinks she has any control whatsoever on how her cats think of themselves. Cats. Heh.Makes me want to re-watch George Carlin's cats vs. dogs routine.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:43 AM (NOIQH)

75 Berghoff Dark was the ice-cold nectar of the gods.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 08:43 AM (gUoN4)

76 @35 Dave in Fla

I spoke to one of my political guru's in Ohio and he think's Trump has Boobio and Kasich stitched up for their delegates to pull him over the threshhold. We'll see.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 08:44 AM (E8UjU)

77 I've reached bad news saturation, so I'm giving up shortly. Gotta go figure out what to do with a small inheritance. Any suggestions?

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 08:44 AM (p8ODH)

78 votermom,

Yep.

Which is why I'm enjoying the little things, and not sweating the bullshit.

I just installed Snapchat on my phone, at the behest of my youngest daughter, who now floods me daily of videos of the grandbabies.

So yeah, things could be worse.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:44 AM (rlfds)

79 ...ump-the-shark story of a lesbian WaPo writer trying to raise her cats cisnormative.

I see that she didn't get written consent....from the cats.

Time to lube mme. 'LaFarge'

Posted by: zombie Citizen Robespierre at April 07, 2016 08:45 AM (326rv)

80
Sharon Angle is planning to run for that seat again. Let that soak in for a moment before giving in to despair.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 08:20 AM (+UCDf)
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The source of my despair is that NV Republicans will give her the nomination. We have met the enemy . . .

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 08:45 AM (pC96u)

81 69 At the old Berghoff in downtown Chicago
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Man, that takes me back. What a great place. No Progressives, but plenty of bourbon, beer, sandwiches...all the fixing of the good life.

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 08:45 AM (/m8T6)

82 Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:44 AM (rlfds)

Grandbabies make everything better.
I hope one day I have some.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 08:46 AM (nbrY/)

83 Then you haven't been paying attention. I've set a record for going after whistle blowers AND investigating reporters that that dare do their jobs.

Posted by: JEF at April 07, 2016 08:42 AM (326rv)

It is only fair that we harass, sue, and eventually jail ~~dissidents pseudo-scientists that attempt to present fraudulent data that appear to contradict the settled science of Global Warming!~~

Posted by: Hrothgar Dem State AG at April 07, 2016 08:46 AM (wYnyS)

84 During the burning times, that woman's cats will be thinking about her body in one way 'is it now too off to eat.'

Talk about someone in search of a lost cause. Brainwashing cats is one of them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:46 AM (qjrXu)

85 Then you haven't been paying attention. I've set a record for going after whistle blowers AND investigating reporters that that dare do their jobs."

This. X 10,000.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at April 07, 2016 08:46 AM (C9pBZ)

86 hah

Posted by: Hrothgar Dem State AG at April 07, 2016 08:47 AM (wYnyS)

87 "Cannot believe the whistle-blowers are being charged while the PP monsters are not."

I can. The Left is emboldened and has the power of The State behind them. They will face no repercussions for initiating political persecutions while the victims will face legal bills and harassment that will cripple them.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at April 07, 2016 08:47 AM (M//Qk)

88 It is only fair that we harass, sue, and eventually jail ~~dissidents~~ pseudo-scientists that attempt to present fraudulent data that appear to contradict the settled science of Global Warming!

Take that barrel!

Posted by: Hrothgar Dem State AG at April 07, 2016 08:47 AM (wYnyS)

89
This morning they are doing memorials for Merle Haggard. I'm not a country fan, so it isn't a draw for me.
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The internet is dotted with youtubes of his greatest hits, best live performances, and columnists' favorite Haggard songs, so I clicked on some of them. I tried, but I can't get into that stuff.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (pC96u)

90 >>Can't you just feel Armageddon sneaking up behind us....

Yeah, things definitely feel like they're spinning out of control.
Far too many moments when one feels like they're living in the Twilight Zone, such as the PP situation, or all of this gender fluid stuff, etc. Can't end well.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (NOIQH)

91 I've reached bad news saturation, so I'm giving up shortly. Gotta go figure out what to do with a small inheritance. Any suggestions?

Blow & hooker's asses?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (SvnHQ)

92 >>I spoke to one of my political guru's in Ohio and he think's Trump has Boobio and Kasich stitched up for their delegates to pull him over the threshhold. We'll see.

Really? I can see Kasich, maybe, but Rubio delegates going to Trump? That seems a stretch.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (/tuJf)

93 I thought that the headline about raising her cat gender-neutral was the funniest thing I'd seen in a long time (in a horrible sort of way) .... it says just about everything necessary about where we are as a society.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (gUoN4)

94 I used to buy New Glarus Spotted Cow for Little Winger when he was here between deployments. I've never tasted it myself but son and son-in-law made it disappear fast and strongly hint for more, so I suspect it's good.

New Glarus is a cute little town. I think it's the one with cuckoo clocks everywhere.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (dFi94)

95 91 Weasel endorses the blow & hooker plan.

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (6xtq3)

96 Got $50,000 in inheritance???

Robot ScarJo might be shipping to you soon...

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (qjrXu)

97 Can't you just feel Armageddon sneaking up behind us....

Not sneaking. Ready for it. Staring it down. Bring it.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (SvnHQ)

98 My oldest daughter's cat will not eat table food.

Not even bacon.

Only dry cat food.

I told my daughter that her cat would not last long in the wild.

She didn't take kindly to that.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (rlfds)

99 I will pull this blog over and there will be running and screaming if there are any more less-than-gushy comments on Merle Haggard.

Some of you people might as well move to North Korea.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (659DL)

100 The sidebar article about the person self identifying as a dragons reminds me of a South Park episode over 10 years ago in which Kyle, who wants to play basketball, undergoes surgery to become a tall black kid. Later in the episode, Kyle's dad states he has always felt he was truly a dolphin and undergoes surgery to look like a dolphin.

Parker and Stone turned out to be very prescient. Who would have guessed 10 years ago this shit would become real life?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at April 07, 2016 08:50 AM (BDZWU)

101 95 91 Weasel endorses the blow & hooker plan.

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (6xtq3)

And Hrothgar weighs in with his stamp of approval as well!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 08:50 AM (wYnyS)

102 "Blow hooker's asses?"

I'm kinda there but being female I was leaning more toward diamonds and mink.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 08:51 AM (p8ODH)

103 Another dead vet is a feature for those fucks.

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What's pissing me off/shocking me is the silence. I mean if a woman did that in front of, say, RNC-HQ, it'd be all over the news.

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 08:51 AM (3ZtZW)

104 The source of my despair is that NV Republicans will give her the nomination. We have met the enemy . . .
Posted by: iforgot

We got your back. We'll fuck with the rules and steal it; it's what we do!

Posted by: GOPe at April 07, 2016 08:51 AM (326rv)

105 Gotta go figure out what to do with a small inheritance. Any suggestions?

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 08:44 AM (p8ODH)
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Buy ammo. Buy toilet paper. Save the rest behind a picture frame.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 08:51 AM (dFi94)

106 98 Our oldest kitty whho turns 16 this year also only eats dry cat food. She won't even look at wet food or cat treats.

Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2016 08:51 AM (6xtq3)

107 Found this via reddit of all places
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/717132991244406785

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 08:52 AM (nbrY/)

108 @92 JackStraw

"That seems a stretch."

I thought so as well, but was reminded they are all whores. We'll see.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 08:52 AM (E8UjU)

109 Mark Levin has been a one man wrecking ball for Trump (as have been some other people). He's gone to the point of making the analogy several times that Trump is Herbert Hoover. Oh yeah and that any attempt at imposing some type of tariff will destroy the American economy (without, by the way evaluating the current state of bilateral tariffs and the room for changes).

In other words, Trump's the anti-Christ and the world will end if he's elected. He's implied on numerous occasions that The Hag may be a better choice (as have some around here).

But now he's saying if Trump's the choice we should all vote for him??

After he's spent months destroying him?

*BLINK*

So the narrative if Trump loses will be he was never a good candidate and "see, I told you he couldn't win"??

You want to know why Republicans lose? Exhibit #1 is the Dishonest Clown Prince.

I'm so sick of the dishonesty.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 08:52 AM (O0lVq)

110 What's pissing me off/shocking me is the silence. I mean if a woman did that in front of, say, RNC-HQ, it'd be all over the news.

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 08:51 AM (3ZtZW)

You just have to grasp the conceptual power of "local" news, and it will all make sense!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 08:52 AM (wYnyS)

111 47 Re: Corporate fascism in general, and Paypal in particular. My wife cancelled our Lands End catalogue and lit up the customer service rep. who had the misfortune to answer her call. (She did it b/c LE featured the abortion fan Gloria Steinem in their Easter catalogue.) The rep sounded weary, and worried. She had obviously been taking tons of those calls. IOW, it works. Fight this shit at every turn.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 07, 2016 08:32 AM (SeD0w)

Land's End is a Wisconsin based company. There was a big story in the local paper about just how badly they screwed themselves with that Gloria Steinem catalog. It's almost a textbook case of bad marketing.

Land's End does not market trendy fashions. It's the Midwestern version of LL Bean. Trying to market trendy lib values to a customer base that just wants to buy winter jackets and boots was a huge mistake.

Land's End might have gotten the idea from another Wisconsin company, Penzey's Spices, whose owner is a full-blown moonbat who has taken to inserting his stupid politics into their catalog.

I recommend buying spice mixes from The Spice House, which is owned by Penzey's sister. (I have it on good faith that she is conservative and is not on speaking terms with her brother - but she does not mix politics with business). many of the same blends are available from The Spice House without the noxious politics.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 08:53 AM (u0lmX)

112 95 91 Weasel endorses the blow & hooker plan.
Posted by: Weasel at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (6xtq3)

Yep. If the Burning Times are coming then you might as well meet them with a smile on your face.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 07, 2016 08:53 AM (v9gSJ)

113 Damn you, Pixy! Where's that ampersand??? Not fair that rickb223 can have one and I can't. Sheesh! I can't even copy a frigging ampersand.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 08:53 AM (p8ODH)

114 The internet is dotted with youtubes of his greatest hits, best live performances, and columnists' favorite Haggard songs, so I clicked on some of them. I tried, but I can't get into that stuff.
Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (pC96u

I'm not a big fan of C&W. But, my father was. He liked Merles music. So his passing brings back memories of MH Sr. And for a minute or 2 that brings a smile to my face in this crappy world. That is all.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:53 AM (voOPb)

115 >>Then you haven't been paying attention. I've set a record for going
after whistle blowers AND investigating reporters that that dare do
their jobs.

I know, I know. I've gotten terribly cynical and prone to conspiracy theory-ish thinking since Obama was elected (because he does some seriously underhanded sh#t). However, I still have a little hope remaining (and naivete) that when something as blatantly evil as what PP was doing would trigger a paradigm shift, wake some people up who were comfortably numb thinking that abortion was still only = 1st trimester.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:54 AM (NOIQH)

116 SMFH, there is a Siamese cat named Andrew in the Venus Wars OVA. When we first meet the cat, he's living in an apartment because the girl is very posh since Daddy is part of the Venus Development Board. This cat turns its dainty nose up at a sardine but steals a sandwich. Next time the viewer sees the cat is in a refugee camp at the end and yeah sardines are so yummy.

Pretty sure your daughter's cat will quickly adapt. Unlike plenty of human beings.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 08:54 AM (qjrXu)

117 Barky4putz, sounds good!

Posted by: KIllerdog at April 07, 2016 08:55 AM (U7Hwh)

118 Damn you, Pixy! Where's that ampersand??? Not fair that rickb223 can have one and I can't. Sheesh! I can't even copy a frigging ampersand.
Posted by: creeper

Here. They're like Doritos. I'll make more.
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Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:55 AM (SvnHQ)

119 #ThinkBeforeYouPost campaign in Germany.

In England Police surveillance of social media is "We'll be watching you."

Meanwhile in the US, #BlackLivesMatter, and #WarOnCops because we have the First Amendment. (Certain restrictions apply. Not available in all states. See game rules for additional information.)

Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 08:55 AM (4dD8I)

120 99 I will pull this blog over and there will be running and screaming if there are any more less-than-gushy comments on Merle Haggard.

Some of you people might as well move to North Korea.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (659DL)

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Merle wasn't exactly played in my households in Chicago, Oakland, or Aiea, so unless he ever sang under the Motown label, which I'm pretty sure he didn't, I didn't listen to his music growing up.

Now, once I was in my 30s and facing divorce and other minor trivialities in my life at the time, his music definitely resonated.

He'll be missed.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:56 AM (rlfds)

121 She didn't take kindly to that.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:49 AM (rlfds)

Any critter who doesn't like bacon has a screw lose. No offense to our Jewish friends.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:56 AM (voOPb)

122 Creeper, a lot depends on your financial goals.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 08:56 AM (nbrY/)

123 Obama would have done far less damage if he faced an actual opposition party.As muh as I hate Obama he opened my eyes to the utter uselessness(or worse) of the GOP.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 08:57 AM (B48dK)

124 I dunno, Anna...

A cat that doesn't like bacon??

Something's wrong.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 08:57 AM (rlfds)

125 Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 08:53 AM (u0lmX)

I closed my account with Penzeys and gave 'em a piece of my mind last year when they pushed the LGBTXYZ agenda hard-core. Didn't even get an expression of regret from them, though I was a customer from the get-go. Bill Penzey is nuts.

Thanks for the tip on The Spice House, Donna. I'll check it out.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 08:58 AM (p8ODH)

126 Speaking of extra money laying around, the link in my name goes to Persecution.com. They help Christians who are under attack in muslim countries both in the Arab world and in Africa and Indonesia. They also attempt to do under-the-radar type things for Christians suffering and in prison in places like China and North Korea. They accept donations.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 08:58 AM (dFi94)

127 "Any critter who doesn't like bacon has a screw lose. No offense to our Jewish friends."

I've never met one who actually said they didn't "like" bacon.

Met many of them who said that that they don't or can't eat it.

But none that didn't like it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2016 08:58 AM (ptqRm)

128 Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:55 AM (SvnHQ)

Showoff!

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 08:58 AM (p8ODH)

129 I dunno, Anna...

A cat that doesn't like bacon??

Something's wrong.
Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain

Depending upon how it's cooked, I could see it. If a dog says no, that bacon needs to be buried deep.

I had a cat and a labrador refuse some 'potted meat food' that I was trying in my poorer bachelor days. That went out fast.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 08:59 AM (326rv)

130 Morning Horde. Trailer for Star Was Rogue One dropped this morning.

Disney has my wallet by the balls and they know it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 08:59 AM (KUaJL)

131 >>Land's End does not market trendy fashions. It's the Midwestern version
of LL Bean. Trying to market trendy lib values to a customer base that
just wants to buy winter jackets and boots was a huge mistake.

They made this stupid move because 1 year ago they hired an Italian gal, Federica Marchionni,as their CEO. Her past work included being senior vice president at Ferrari and president of Dolce and Gabbana USA.

In other words, the opposite of mid-Western values. I'm sure the Gloria Steinhem gaffe happened because Federica has no clue that people outside of her NYC fashion clique might actually not idolize Steinhem. Also because being part of the coastal elites, it seemed natural to inject hella politics into her company's brand, despite mots normal people finding this tiresome and intrusive when you just want to find a down jacket for your kid, or a pretty scarf for your mother.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 09:00 AM (NOIQH)

132 When the PP videos started coming out I really thought that it would be a tipping point .... but not so much, apparently.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (gUoN4)

133 Star Wars: Rogue One trailer

https://youtu.be/Wji-BZ0oCwg

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (qjrXu)

134 @creeper

"Gotta go figure out what to do with a small inheritance. Any suggestions?"

Pay off all your outstanding debts, buy precious metals and a gun. Good luck with the rest.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (E8UjU)

135 I had a cat and a labrador refuse some 'potted meat food'

Smart animals.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 09:02 AM (SvnHQ)

136 "...buy precious metals..."

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Good luck lugging it around.

Booze and bullets.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:03 AM (rlfds)

137 I had a cat and a labrador refuse some 'potted meat food'

Smart animals.
Posted by: rickb223

I watched that same dog eat horse crap. And he refused this. I could not dump that can fast enough.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:03 AM (326rv)

138 >>'potted meat food'

Only one of those words is accurate and it isn't meat or food.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 09:03 AM (/tuJf)

139 135 I had a cat and a labrador refuse some 'potted meat food'

Smart animals.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 09:02 AM (SvnHQ)

My dogs turn their noses up at tofu, which just made me love them that much more.

Posted by: joncelli, Now 50% More Bilious! at April 07, 2016 09:03 AM (v9gSJ)

140 I use to get a lot of Land's End clothing as a very close relative worked there and got fantastic discounts. I still buy an occasional piece from them.

They have gotten pricey and hired as Lizzy pointed out a NYC fashion guru. Well said guru doesn't live in Dodgeville, WI which is a little town of about 3000 people smack dab in the middle of farm country.

Hope Lands End turns it around. But I fear they wont

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:04 AM (voOPb)

141 I only go to Land's End for their swimsuits, because they don't make me look like a 19 year old tramp. In fact I was thinking of going there online today because everything at Kohl's looks like crap. Now I'm stuck. Maybe I'll give Penney's a try. That's all we have here in town: Kohl's, Penney's and Hobby Lobby. I don't know how to knit, so I guess Hobby Lobby isn't going to be much help for swimsuits.

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 09:04 AM (dFi94)

142 Also, toilet paper.

Running joke, I know, but after a year in a place where TP was gold, I know of what I speak.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:04 AM (rlfds)

143 Test

Posted by: test at April 07, 2016 09:04 AM (Lpmhf)

144 122
Creeper, a lot depends on your financial goals.

Posted by: @votermom at April 07, 2016 08:56 AM (nbrY/)

That's easy. I have it boiled down to survival. A little extra monthly income would be nice but I won't get that from a bank. The market is so risky it makes me nervous. Maybe a coffee can and a shovel.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (p8ODH)

145 The only commodities I'm buying are ammo and bacon backs.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (O0lVq)

146
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 09:04 AM (dFi94

I bet you look like a 29 year old babe.
You know the rules, pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (voOPb)

147 The fantastic Kathy Shaidle went to watch Mark Steyn and Nigel Farage debate Simon Shama and some other Islamic apologist in Toronto. She calls the SJW's the "Rape Me First, Kill Me Last crowd", and she has some observations. Mostly, they suck.

http://tinyurl.com/gq6vema

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (/m8T6)

148 Hash test

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (Lpmhf)

149 When the PP videos started coming out I really thought that it would be a tipping point .... but not so much, apparently.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (gUoN4)

I gave up long before that.

9/11/2001, I think it was!

An unserious nation has no idea how serious things can get when they get out of hand!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (wYnyS)

150 Just out of bed and already micro-agressed by politicians wasting my tax dollars!

Where is my safe space? And my blankie?

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at April 07, 2016 09:06 AM (4ng05)

151 When the PP videos started coming out I really thought that it would be a tipping point .... but not so much, apparently.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (gUoN4)

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No, it was. Things just tipped the other way.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 09:06 AM (KUaJL)

152 Yeah, Lands End has a great selection of swimsuits.
I'm torn, because I do like their stuff, and I had just spent some money there buying Christmas presents (they have great sales).

I want to boycott, but it's getting to the point that a conservative would have precious little options with most national brands getting into the virtue signalling-->corporate pressuring state rights game.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 09:06 AM (NOIQH)

153 Maybe a coffee can and a shovel.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (p8ODH)

& a small used backhoe in good condition!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:07 AM (wYnyS)

154 @136 SMFH while circling the drain

Caches. It works.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:07 AM (E8UjU)

155 I don't know how to knit, so I guess Hobby Lobby isn't going to be much help for swimsuits.
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hell, if you'll wear a knitted swimsuit I'll learn how to knit. Quality not guaranteed, but still....

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 09:07 AM (/m8T6)

156 63 Cannot believe the whistle-blowers are being charged while the PP monsters are not.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH

I use to hold those beliefs Lizzy. But, not now. Evil is good. Good is evil. And unnatural is natural.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (voOPb)

Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 07, 2016 09:07 AM (Hw3b3)

157 Pay off all your outstanding debts, buy precious metals and a gun. Good luck with the rest.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (E8UjU)

1. done
3. got
2. Sounds right.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:08 AM (p8ODH)

158 Caches. It works.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:07 AM (E8UjU)

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Not when you rent ; )

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:08 AM (rlfds)

159 I bet you look like a 29 year old babe.

You know the rules, pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (voOPb)
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I was showing some old pictures (circa 1977) to my 6 year old granddaughter the other day. She couldn't pick me out of the group. When I showed her which one was me, she said "You used to look like THAT? You had dark hair! Now you have old hair."

*sigh*

Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94)

160 157 Pay off all your outstanding debts, buy precious metals and a gun. Good luck with the rest.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (E8UjU)

1. done
3. got
2. Sounds right.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:08 AM (p8ODH)

Note that "buying gold" means actually "buying gold" not "invest in gold markets".

I'm sure the horde is aware, just don't want any passer-bys getting the wrong idea.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 07, 2016 09:09 AM (Hw3b3)

161 I watched that same dog eat horse crap. And he refused this. I could not dump that can fast enough.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:03 AM (326rv)

My vet said she thought that dogs could smell residual protein or "processable " food remnants in the poop and that's why they would eat it. If your dog can't sense anything edible, toss it!

The canine nose, knows!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:10 AM (wYnyS)

162 Thanks for the tip on The Spice House, Donna. I'll check it out.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 08:58 AM (p8ODH)

The Spice House has an outlet in the Public Market in Milwaukee. When I was there buying spices a few months ago, I mentioned to the guy behind the counter that I didn't appreciate Bill Penzey's preaching and decided to buy from SH from now on.

He smiled and said, "A lot of people have told us that."

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 09:10 AM (u0lmX)

163 It's getting so that humanity is a casualty of unbridled, self serving arrogance. No society in the history of mankind has ever existed for long in the face of such contemptuousness

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 09:11 AM (O0lVq)

164 Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94)

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Ouch.

Mine are two and almost six months old.

Have time before I'm forced to use duct tape.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:11 AM (rlfds)

165 PP is a symptom. The Democrat Party gives them public money and they, in turn, give money to the Democrats for elections. Same principle as public employee unions. One more desperate problem that can only be solved by amending the Constitution to end public employee unions and government funds to "charities".

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 09:11 AM (/m8T6)

166
Personally, I'd favor the "hookers and blow" suggestion, but in case creeper wants a real suggestion:

Land. Find a nice, isolated spot and build a little house (or find an isolated spot with a house already there). Pare things down there - no phone (no light, no morotcar. . .), no internet. Just a well-stocked kitchen, bar and library, with plenty of room on the porch to rock and watch the world go by.

The older I get, the more I want to completely withdraw from the world and be alone. I would think that, creeper, if the constant drumbeat of bad news is affecting you (as it does so many of us), a quiet place of retreat to shut out the world would be the best use of your money.

Oh, and guns. Be Prepared.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2016 09:12 AM (X6fMO)

167 Note that "buying gold" means actually "buying gold" not "invest in gold markets".

Older I get, the truer old people's saying are:
"One in the hand is worth two in the bush".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 09:12 AM (SvnHQ)

168 151 When the PP videos started coming out I really thought that it would be a tipping point .... but not so much, apparently.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 09:01 AM (gUoN4)

Which is why I think we are doomed.

A nation that permits such an evil is not one that is going to survive.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 09:12 AM (u0lmX)

169 Which is why I think we are doomed.

A nation that permits such an evil is not one that is going to survive.

Posted by: Donna

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Agreed

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 09:14 AM (Qvgg/)

170 Donna, wouldn't you love to know the economic effect on these companies who go full moonbat? I've read posts from dozens of people who say they've closed their PayPal accounts. Do these companies feel the pinch?

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:14 AM (p8ODH)

171 A nation that permits such an evil is not one that is going to survive.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 09:12 AM (u0lmX)
***
I hope you're right. My fear is it will go on, getting a little worse every day.

But then I remember, "something, something, something, exceedingly fine." And then I get really scared.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 09:14 AM (lutOX)

172 When the PP videos started coming out I really thought that it would be a tipping point .... but not so much, apparently.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Me too.

I guess we both underestimated the level of narcissistic self-obsession and numbed consciences of this generation.

Posted by: Mortimer at April 07, 2016 09:16 AM (DkNEg)

173 @158 SMFH while circling the drain

Well, in a former profession, many, many moons ago, I used to carry a lot of ammo and that stuff is heavy. If you do not have any relatives you can trust, then I would go with precious metals.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:16 AM (E8UjU)

174 To me, this just makes the point why we need government to do everything for us.

https://tinyurl.com/hcfg5za

They.

Can't.

Even.

Manage.

Dog.

Adoptions.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at April 07, 2016 09:16 AM (4ng05)

175 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2016 09:12 AM (X6fMO)

You're reading my mind. I want "out" so bad I can taste it. Somewhere in the middle of nowhere with a pond or a creek and a view of the western sky.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:16 AM (p8ODH)

176 Kamela Harris has no ethics. She will lie about anything to get elected. She also was extremely unethical when she ran the DAs office in SF.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 09:16 AM (iQIUe)

177 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:04 AM (voOPb)

Lands End has indeed gotten a bit pricy. I used to buy their Oxford button-downs for work, and they were priced fantastically and were superbly made.

Now? Quality has dipped a bit (not much) but the prices have skyrocketed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:18 AM (Zu3d9)

178 @160 DoublySymmetric

Correct. Certificates will be worthless. Pay the fee and get the metal.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:18 AM (E8UjU)

179 The firefighter who was killed, married a woman with 5 children and they had a son together. The father, the 2 year old boy, and a 4 year old step daughter were killed. So, now his poor wife has to deal with her grief and raising 4 kids on her own.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 09:19 AM (iQIUe)

180 Saw an interesting point in the midst of the Facebook caterwauling about North Carolina. PayPal is "making a stand against the bigotry of North Carolina" but has no problem doing business in countries where homosexuality is not only illegal, but incurs capital punishment.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 09:19 AM (+UCDf)

181 178 @160 DoublySymmetric

Correct. Certificates will be worthless. Pay the fee and get the metal.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:18 AM (E8UjU)

In the event of catastrophic economic collapse, no one is going to give two poops about a piece of paper.

Gold, ammo, and whiskey!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 07, 2016 09:19 AM (Hw3b3)

182 Diabetes cases in adults quadruple since 1980

I don't suppose that has anything to do with federal nutrition guidelines. Nah, couldn't be.

Posted by: rickl at April 07, 2016 09:19 AM (zoehZ)

183 He's gone to the point of making the analogy several times that Trump is Herbert Hoover.

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That's a good thing. Hoover got a bum rap.

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 09:19 AM (3ZtZW)

184 177 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:04 AM (voOPb)

Lands End has indeed gotten a bit pricy. I used to buy their Oxford button-downs for work, and they were priced fantastically and were superbly made.

Now? Quality has dipped a bit (not much) but the prices have skyrocketed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:18 AM (Zu3d9)

Gotten pricey? I recall them always being expensive.

Of course, growing up, our wardrobe came from Walmart and hand-me-downs....

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (Hw3b3)

185 Blow & hooker's asses?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (SvnHQ)

This x1000...live a little, enjoyinng life and providing income for hard working broads is a good thing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (ej1L0)

186 Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:18 AM (E8UjU)

Agent's pushing a minerals fund. Thinking of that and a few ounces of gold.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (p8ODH)

187 >>Which is why I think we are doomed.
A nation that permits such an evil is not one that is going to survive.

Yeah, it was a wake-up call...but for *us* not them.

Finally made me realize that there are some people who have lost/willingly given away their humanity. A lot more of them I could have imagined.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (NOIQH)

188 Well, in a former profession, many, many moons ago, I used to carry a lot of ammo and that stuff is heavy. If you do not have any relatives you can trust, then I would go with precious metals.
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:16 AM (E8UjU)

---

I was a SAW gunner, in my former profession, many, many moons ago

I'm used to lugging ammo around.

Considering that a large number of my family have lost their minds and are either voting Sanders or Hillary, no, I trust no one in my family.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (rlfds)

189 You're reading my mind. I want "out" so bad I can taste it. Somewhere in the middle of nowhere with a pond or a creek and a view of the western sky.
Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:16 AM (p8ODH)
***
"What I want is a view. I want a window where I can see a tree, or even water."

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (lutOX)

190 180 Of course,they are all fucking hypocrites.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 09:21 AM (B48dK)

191 Dogs eating horse crap.

I had cousins who fed cattle, but not the pigs who shared the same pasture, because the pigs would eat the cow pies.

Horses are said to be more efficient converters of forage, more efficient than cows.

I am not an expert in these matters. It's just what I've heard. Your rumors may vary.

Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 09:21 AM (4dD8I)

192 185 Blow & hooker's asses?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 08:48 AM (SvnHQ)

This x1000...live a little, enjoyinng life and providing income for hard working broads is a good thing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (ej1L0)

I agree!!

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at April 07, 2016 09:21 AM (Hw3b3)

193 Does anyone have an alternative to PayPal?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 09:21 AM (+UCDf)

194 I'm getting no sound on my cell phone since maybe yesterday, hard to know for sure when it started. I have checked volume, mute, called myself, called out, etc. but there are no ringtones. I've also tried to change ringtones and none of them play. Also powered off and restarted, and also reset data and looked for updates.

I have not tried a factory reset, just a data reset. Should I?

I can hear a voicemail, so that speaker seems to be working.

The phone has not gotten wet recently that I'm aware of.

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 09:22 AM (3ZtZW)

195 191 Dogs eating horse crap.

I had cousins who fed cattle, but not the pigs who shared the same pasture, because the pigs would eat the cow pies.

Horses are said to be more efficient converters of forage, more efficient than cows.

I am not an expert in these matters. It's just what I've heard. Your rumors may vary.
Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 09:21 AM (4dD8I)
***
My angel was a child in a country where they had privies that emptied directly into pig-pens.... This was and is a common practice in rural Asia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (lutOX)

196 You're reading my mind. I want "out" so bad I can taste it. Somewhere in the middle of nowhere with a pond or a creek and a view of the western sky.

Shit, can I join you? I'll make you beer and we can go fishing.

Posted by: GMan at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (sxq57)

197 Lands End has indeed gotten a bit pricy. I used to
buy their Oxford button-downs for work, and they were priced
fantastically and were superbly made.

Now? Quality has dipped a bit (not much) but the prices have skyrocketed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:18 AM

---

Try Stafford button downs at JC Penney. High quality, not Chinese. And, they fired their LGBT CEO.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (Qvgg/)

198 The sidebar article about the person self identifying as a dragons reminds me of a South Park episode over 10 years ago in which Kyle, who wants to play basketball, undergoes surgery to become a tall black kid. Later in the episode, Kyle's dad states he has always felt he was truly a dolphin and undergoes surgery to look like a dolphin.

Parker and Stone turned out to be very prescient. Who would have guessed 10 years ago this shit would become real life?
Posted by: Serenity Now! at April 07, 2016 08:50 AM (BDZWU)
________________________

There have always been crazy people, but it was not until recently that our governments (federal, state, and local) started demanding that the rest of us play along with their delusions and subsidize them with our tax dollars. That's the idiotic part. Showing compassion for people with mental illnesses is fine and commendable, but an official policy of pretending that mental illnesses are not mental illnesses but simply trendy and acceptable "lifestyle choices" is beyond ludicrous.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (df5V4)

199 147 The fantastic Kathy Shaidle went to watch Mark Steyn and Nigel Farage debate Simon Shama and some other Islamic apologist in Toronto. She calls the SJW's the "Rape Me First, Kill Me Last crowd", and she has some observations. Mostly, they suck.

http://tinyurl.com/gq6vema

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (/m8T6)

You can find the whole debate posted on Steyn's website.

It's been noted here before, but the highlight of the debate was when Steyn ripped Schama a new one for making light of gang rape in Europe. I'll bet Schama wet himself a little. I would never want to face an angry Mark Steyn in a debate.

I knew Schama was a lib, but he still disappointed me. I've read and liked several of his books. I didn't know he was such a condescending little twit. At the end, he read Donne's "For Whom the Bell Tolls" as a plea for letting the West be overrun by barbarians. That was his argument basically - Emma Lazarus, and for the children, and no man is an island. Just emotion. And he's a famous "intellectual."

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (u0lmX)

200 Agent's pushing a minerals fund. Thinking of that and a few ounces of gold.

Gold & Silver. You don't want to have to barter an ounce of gold for a loaf of bread when they can't make change.
Check out Northwest Territorial Mint and their Get Out Of Dodge silver rounds and bars. Or Ampex.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (SvnHQ)

201 Diabetes cases in adults quadruple since 1980

Lose weight, go for a walk.
Ya, I know.

Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (4dD8I)

202 On the way to work this morning, I noticed something on the car in front of me. This was spelled out in little individual letter stickers. Almost like a ransom note, except the letters were all the same font. The message? RYAN FOR PRESIDENT. Sheesh. Must be some local GOP functionary.

Posted by: tsj017 at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (4YUWF)

203 In England Police surveillance of social media is "We'll be watching you."

====

Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every step you take
Every cake you bake
We'll be watching you

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 09:24 AM (3ZtZW)

204 193 Does anyone have an alternative to PayPal?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 09:21 AM (+UCDf)

There were some listed towards the end of the EMT.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 09:24 AM (SvnHQ)

205
The fantastic Kathy Shaidle

Posted by: MTF at April 07, 2016 09:05 AM (/m8T6)
-----------------------
STOP. That woman is no help. Unpersuasive, superficial, dull. Another reason I stopped reading PJ Media.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 09:25 AM (pC96u)

206 NYC native and resident here. Would Chelsea make it into the NYC city council? It's doubtful - she's got no resume and and no skills except picking her parents well. If mom becomes president (Shudder) it's a new ball game, though.

Posted by: vivi@nonoise.com at April 07, 2016 09:25 AM (11H2y)

207
"One in the hand is worth two in the bush".

**sidles over**

So. . .what are YOU doing tonight?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 07, 2016 09:25 AM (X6fMO)

208 Posted by: GMan at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (sxq57)

I've got the boat.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:26 AM (p8ODH)

209 Mooch To Hold Iranian Festival At White House

Where she will lead the crowd in a rousing chant of Death to America.

Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:26 AM (V/InG)

210 >>Showing compassion for people with mental illnesses is fine and
commendable, but an official policy of pretending that mental illnesses
are not mental illnesses but simply trendy and acceptable "lifestyle
choices" is beyond ludicrous.

Our government wants us to re-order our culture and society to accommodate these people, and actively demonizes anyone who does not support them enthusiastically. Recall the viral "outragey" video clip of Brett Favre not clapping for Jenner with an adequate amount of enthusiasm at the ESPYs?

Mind-blowing.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 09:26 AM (NOIQH)

211 I was showing some old pictures (circa 1977) to my 6 year old granddaughter the other day. She couldn't pick me out of the group. When I showed her which one was me, she said "You used to look like THAT? You had dark hair! Now you have old hair."

*sigh*
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at April 07, 2016 09:08 AM (dFi94

Kids say the darnedest things.
I started going gray at 26.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:27 AM (voOPb)

212 The firefighter who was killed, married a woman with 5 children and they had a son together. The father, the 2 year old boy, and a 4 year old step daughter were killed. So, now his poor wife has to deal with her grief and raising 4 kids on her own.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang!

It's an unnatural act of love. I'll force feed you a bible peasant.

Posted by: Gov. John Katshitt at April 07, 2016 09:27 AM (326rv)

213 207
"One in the hand is worth two in the bush".

**sidles over**

So. . .what are YOU doing tonight?
Posted by: Sandra Fluke

Getting a penicillin shot.
And I'm deathly allergic to penicillin!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 09:27 AM (SvnHQ)

214 The problem with precious metals as currency is. . .
once spent, they are gone forever.

What you want is trade, something you have in surplus, something you produce in surplus that you can trade for something you need.

Run a still, run a brothel, make black powder, run a foundry (take in scrap, make edged weapons.) Stop thinking like a consumer. Start thinking like a community organizer.

Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 09:28 AM (4dD8I)

215 Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 09:23 AM (SvnHQ)

Happily, silver's also covered. Maybe I'm in better shape than I thought.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:28 AM (p8ODH)

216 NB for those buying physical PMs, gold is about $1400 per ounce, while silver is around $20. If you think you will need these to make purchases in the dystopian future, silver is much easier to transact, assuming no hyperinflation.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 09:28 AM (Qvgg/)

217 With all of the Orwellian shit that government(s) (state, federal, international) are proposing publicly, it just make me wonder (with no small amount of consternation) what they are planning behind closed doors.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at April 07, 2016 09:28 AM (4ng05)

218 Run a still, run a brothel, make black powder, run a foundry (take in scrap, make edged weapons.) Stop thinking like a consumer. Start thinking like a community organizer.
Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 09:28 AM (4dD8I)
***
Who run Bartertown?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 09:29 AM (lutOX)

219 Cankles is outside Yankee Stadium defiling the place. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:29 AM (V/InG)

220 Makes me want to puke seeing that bitch and the dumb fucks that support her

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:30 AM (V/InG)

221 Thanks, I'll go look.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 09:30 AM (+UCDf)

222
Minn and NY are the big ISIS recruitment centers. I know, put on your shock faces.

https://cchs.gwu.edu/isis-in-america

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 09:30 AM (iQIUe)

223 I"m surprised there isn't an organization of Crime Victims of Illegal Immigrants.

Posted by: vivi@nonoise.com at April 07, 2016 09:30 AM (11H2y)

224 197 Lands End has indeed gotten a bit pricy. I used to
buy their Oxford button-downs for work, and they were priced
fantastically and were superbly made.

Now? Quality has dipped a bit (not much) but the prices have skyrocketed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:18 AM

Of course they got pricey when they embroidered your name Dildo. The help laughed so hard they had to take unscheduled breaks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:30 AM (voOPb)

225 I've never understood the attraction to Spotted Cow Ale. It's nothing special and there are so many other great brews in WI. Cute name I suppose. Heck, New Glarus even makes much better. Try Moon Man Pale Ale or Fat Squirrel Nut Brown Ale. Cow is just generic.

Posted by: Old Buffalo at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (/pOl7)

226 219 I wonder what the Babe would have made of cankles?

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (B48dK)

227 Cankles is outside Yankee Stadium defiling the place. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:29 AM (V/InG)

220 Makes me want to puke seeing that bitch and the dumb fucks that support her
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:30 AM (V/InG)

And the masturbatory intellectuals that brag they will stay home or vote third party and put that asshole in the White House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (V/InG)

228 216 NB for those buying physical PMs, gold is about $1400 per ounce, while silver is around $20. If you think you will need these to make purchases in the dystopian future, silver is much easier to transact, assuming no hyperinflation.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 09:28 AM (Qvgg/)

I think the hyperinflation is unavoidable... Too few people with precious metal and too many people with worthless pieces of paper.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (Hw3b3)

229 179 The firefighter who was killed, married a woman with 5 children and they had a son together. The father, the 2 year old boy, and a 4 year old step daughter were killed. So, now his poor wife has to deal with her grief and raising 4 kids on her own.
________________________

Read an article the other day about a guy who has been trying to compile statistics on the number of Americans killed by illegal aliens every year. As you can imagine, it's hard to get the numbers, given all the laws prohibiting reporting of criminals' and drunk drivers' "immigration status," not to mention the MSM's determination never to report on an illegal alien criminal's true status. But he estimates, based on what he was able to find, that around 7,500 Americans are killed by illegal aliens . . . every year.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (df5V4)

230 Does anyone have an alternative to PayPal?

Yes. PayMe.

You just send me your money. It's that easy.

Address to:

PayMe
Behind The Hot Water Pipes
3RD Washroom Along
Victoria Station

Posted by: Hobomunculus at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (CUk0C)

231 I wonder what the Babe would have made of cankles?
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (B48dK)

He's say "pull my finger to find out"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (V/InG)

232 225 I've never understood the attraction to Spotted Cow Ale. It's nothing special and there are so many other great brews in WI. Cute name I suppose. Heck, New Glarus even makes much better. Try Moon Man Pale Ale or Fat Squirrel Nut Brown Ale. Cow is just generic.
Posted by: Old Buffalo at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (/pOl7)

I vote for Road Slush

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 07, 2016 09:32 AM (Hw3b3)

233 So apparently our WH is now celebrating Iran's New Year, Nowruz.

Un-freakin-believable.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 09:32 AM (NOIQH)

234 209 Mooch To Hold Iranian Festival At White House

Where she will lead the crowd in a rousing chant of Death to America.

Weasel Zippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:26 AM (V/InG)

---

And my lovely, but simple-minded, sister will splash videoclips of Mooch tootsie-rolling or electric-sliding or wtfever...

Fortunately, since deactivating my FB account, I don't have to see that shit any more.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:32 AM (rlfds)

235 Cankles is outside Yankee Stadium defiling the place. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup

A match made several points below heaven.

Posted by: Mets fan at April 07, 2016 09:33 AM (326rv)

236 But he estimates, based on what he was able to find, that around 7,500 Americans are killed by illegal aliens . . . every year.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 07, 2016 09:31 AM (df5V4)

I think I'd want to apply the same rule of thumb I apply to the "official" unemployment figures on that number!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:34 AM (wYnyS)

237 @186 creeper

*note: I am not an investment advisor

Gold has shot up $200 an oz. in the last 3 months. Silver still seems a good purchase when looking at the the peak of 5 years ago. I would always advise "lead" (for the gun). Buy property in a red state near or in a small town if you are so inclined.

I have been liquidating investments and been paying off the mortgage despite the low interest rates.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:34 AM (E8UjU)

238 A match made several points below heaven.
Posted by: Mets fan at April 07, 2016 09:33 AM (326rv)
***
"South of Heaven," as we used to say.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 09:34 AM (lutOX)

239
A diverse group of leaders representing civil rights and religious organizations Tuesday called on Minnesotans to stand against Islamophobia and oppose a federal anti-terror program.

http://goo.gl/7msr1x

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That's right. They are pro terror.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 09:35 AM (iQIUe)

240 And the masturbatory intellectuals that brag they will stay home or vote third party and put that asshole in the White House
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Careful now; several here openly boasted of planning on voting for her Thighness if they didn't get the result they wanted.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:35 AM (326rv)

241 PayPal cancels plans based on NC bathroom law

As I pointed out last night, the issue is not constrained to bathrooms, but extends to shower rooms, changing rooms, etc.

NC HB2 was a reaction to the Charlotte City ordinance which would have compelled private companies to make all such facilities open.

It cannot be repeated too often that under HB2 if a company wishes to do so, they are free to do so.

Ironically, PayPal pulled out of... Charlotte. Way to show solidarity, eh?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 07, 2016 09:36 AM (hTIYb)

242 That diabetes story smells rather fishy.

First, world population has doubled since 1980. Second, most of this increase they mentioned is coming from developing countries, like China, and India, where diabetes has been under reported for decades.

Posted by: Carlos Danger at April 07, 2016 09:36 AM (0IhFx)

243 Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:32 AM (rlfds)

Not only are these people insane, they hate the few normal rational legal Americans that are still left!

I have a copy of "The Camp of the Saints", but I am afraid to start reading it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:36 AM (wYnyS)

244 >>But he estimates, based on what he was able to find, that around 7,500 Americans are killed by illegal aliens . . . every year.

Living in a sanctuary city, can tell you that the city actively hides that type of information with the media's assistance.

There a "tells" such as when they mention a criminal with a Spanish name and that he is a current resident of X county (cue footage of gang tattoo covered gang member being led by police). Oh, OK, how long has he lived there? And that's when they even provide a name, instead of just saying, "an X county resident was arrested for doing..."

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 09:37 AM (NOIQH)

245 The feel good story is a feel good story, though I wish my daughter can overcome some of her difficulties.

Posted by: auscolpyr at April 07, 2016 09:37 AM (suO/a)

246 Hrothgar,

Read it last week.

WTF doesn't even begin to cover it.

Dude who wrote it was a time-traveler.

I'm convinced of it.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:38 AM (rlfds)

247 Careful now; several here openly boasted of planning on voting for her Thighness if they didn't get the result they wanted.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:35 AM (326rv)

I know . Taking their marbles and going home. Fine it's America, they can do what they want, but does not mean I have sit here and listen to shit like that. Especially when a few or at least one of them tries to rationalize it as the noble thing to do. They can take that crap and shove it where.......

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:39 AM (V/InG)

248 PayPal is "making a stand against the bigotry of North Carolina" but has no problem doing business in countries where homosexuality is not only illegal, but incurs capital punishment.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 07, 2016 09:19 AM (+UCDf)

In this, as in all things, Apple leads the way. They will quite happily sell you an iPhone to record the execution of those nasty homos and then rent you space in their cloud to store it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at April 07, 2016 09:39 AM (kXoT0)

249 Chicoms celebrate Christmas?

Posted by: centralscrutinizer at April 07, 2016 09:40 AM (vI+F1)

250 Horses are said to be more efficient converters of forage, more efficient than cows.

Cattle are more efficient due to their rumen - they chew their cud like goats. The rumen is a pre-stomach that allows bacteria to convert straw and lower protein feed into usable calories.
Horses don't have this, though they do have some secondary digestion in the intestines. But a lot of the edible stuff goes right through them
I am told that a horse can starve eating nothing but straw, but oxen do fine.

Historically oxen were the real traction animals, horses were considered too delicate and had to be fed higher quality food. They are just way faster, and when rigged right, that is not used on either straps around the neck or with a yoke that presses on the windpipe, they can carry or pull quite a lot.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 07, 2016 09:40 AM (dKa8Z)

251 SMFH

That's what I have heard. I just had dinner last night with son's family and two very young handsome grand-sons. What a crap fest we are leaving those poor babies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:41 AM (wYnyS)

252 There was a father and 2 sons who were murdered in SF by an illegal gangbanger that had been in jail but they just released instead of deporting.

Then there was Jamal Shaw 17 who was murdered by an illegal. He was walking home, steps away, but was gun down bc he had a bit of red on his backpack.

The elected do not give a crap about illegals raping and murdering people.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 09:41 AM (iQIUe)

253 @188 SMFH

We had the same employer. I had the dubious honor of lugging the M60 around.

"Considering that a large number of my family have lost their minds and are either voting Sanders or Hillary, no, I trust no one in my family."

That blows. Not to good with math or they believe the TV over their own Family?

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (E8UjU)

254
And yes they do actively try to hide stats about illegals, especially in California.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (iQIUe)

255 Well, now. Isn't this nice? I got a "Fuck you" from PayPal.

"Dear creeper,

Hello! I'm Michael, a PayPal Product and Site Support specialist. I understand where you are coming from. We appreciate your feedback and respect you.

Fairness, inclusion and equality are values that are at the core of PayPal's mission and culture. The new legislation enacted by the State of North Carolina denying the equal rights of the LGBT community is in direct conflict with those values. As a result, PayPal has withdrawn our planned expansion into Charlotte and we will seek another location for our global operations center."

Continues with phone number and hours to call and concludes, "Thank you for being a part of the PayPal community. Have a good day."

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (p8ODH)

256 252 Yeah,and Jamal was black.Wher was the BLM outcry?

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (B48dK)

257 Careful now; several here openly boasted of planning on voting for her Thighness if they didn't get the result they wanted.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:35 AM (326rv)

I know . Taking their marbles and going home. Fine it's America, they can do what they want, but does not mean I have sit here and listen to shit like that. Especially when a few or at least one of them tries to rationalize it as the noble thing to do. They can take that crap and shove it where.......
Posted by: Nevergiveup

I gotta say; if katshit or anyone other than Cruz or Trump become the 'nominee', I'm wondering this myself.

My vote means nothing in Delaware anyway; it's a blue state. And why reward the GOP?

I despise Hillary, how she got to this point, and the people around me that pretend that this is normal.

But in this situation, what am I voting for?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (326rv)

258 Not to good with math or they believe the TV over their own Family?

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Yes.

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (rlfds)

259 The linked story about CA raiding the house of the PP videographer is probably the most concerning headline up there. It points out the cancer in our own (national) body. We now prosecute the just and good, and we refuse to prosecute the corrupt.

Posted by: Sambo at April 07, 2016 09:43 AM (CwNIZ)

260 I will hold any "conservative" who actually and actively votes for Hillary because they don't like who the GOP nominates personally and directly responsible for the hell HRC would unleash as President.

You always have an alternative.

I'm a bit short on tolerance for such these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 09:43 AM (9krrF)

261 Cloudy and humid and in the 70s but no rain.

A few shower tomorrow and rain, maybe, Sat.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

262 >>Yeah, Lands End has a great selection of swimsuits.
I'm torn, because I do like their stuff, and I had just spent some money there buying Christmas presents

I'm taking the middle road right now. I didn't unsubscribe but I'm not even opening the emails or catalogs right now.

I've liked their stuff for a long time, esp. for the kids' stuff.

Their catalogs have been turning me off for a while now, though. They have filled them with people who look really wealthy having very rich fun. Yea for them, but it's like they are trying to sell something different than what I'm there for.

I buy basic stuff on sale and I'm sure I'm not the only one. So they look like they are marketing to different people and then they go and feature a controversial person.

I smell "out of touch with your customers" but I may be over sensitive to money issues right now...

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 07, 2016 09:45 AM (nXeSu)

263 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:39 AM (V/InG)

Yes, even a thieving back-stabbing treacherous sleazy power-hungry RINO (BIRM) is at least infinitesimally better than any Democrat.

I fear that this time not only I will have to hold my nose but I'll have to carry a barf bag when I pull the lever for the R candidate!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:45 AM (wYnyS)

264 But in this situation, what am I voting for?
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (326rv)

Your voting to keep any and all Democrats out of Office. LIfe is often not the choice between right or wrong, black or white, perfect and imperfect. It is usually a choice amongst the many shades of grey and real Adults in real life make those choices every day.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:45 AM (V/InG)

265
@250
Kindltot at April 07, 2016 09:40 AM

Thank you for that. When I read about the bacteria in a cow's stomach I began to wonder if it wasn't forage that 'fed' the cow as much as it was the bacteria that lived in the cow's stomach and 'ate' the forage.

And I've never heard of 'feeding' straw to any animal. Where I'm from straw was always 'bedding' that sucked up the waste and made clean up easier.

Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 09:45 AM (4dD8I)

266 I fear that this time not only I will have to hold my nose but I'll have to carry a barf bag when I pull the lever for the R candidate!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:45 AM (wYnyS)

And maybe drinks a bit before going in to vote

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:46 AM (V/InG)

267 "As a result, PayPal has withdrawn our planned expansion into Charlotte and we will seek another location for our global operations center.""

Global Operations Center?

So....Saudi Arabia or Syria might be in the mix for their new location., right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2016 09:46 AM (ptqRm)

268 And maybe drinks a bit before going in to vote
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:46 AM (V/InG)

Voting while intoxicated, what a novel idea!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:47 AM (voOPb)

269 But in this situation, what am I voting for?
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:42 AM (326rv)

Your voting to keep any and all Democrats out of Office. LIfe is often not the choice between right or wrong, black or white, perfect and imperfect. It is usually a choice amongst the many shades of grey and real Adults in real life make those choices every day.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Okay. But please note what I said. it won't work here. This state will once again turn blue.

And the MFM that ignores everything from a crime 'foundation' to six magical coin tosses won't give a shit about the popular vote in Delaware.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:47 AM (326rv)

270 And maybe drinks a bit before going in to vote

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:46 AM (V/InG)

Probably before, and definitely after!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:48 AM (wYnyS)

271 "So....Saudi Arabia or Syria might be in the mix for their new location., right?"

Probably. I fired off a quick reply pointing out that they are not only intolerant but hypocritical as well.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:48 AM (p8ODH)

272 Voting while intoxicated, what a novel idea!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:47 AM (voOPb)

Getting safely to. and from. the polling place might be problematic, considering the amount of Valu-Rite I think I will need that day!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:49 AM (wYnyS)

273 Said I was leaving an hour ago. Time to make good on that promise. Thanx for the financial advice, Horde. Ya' done good.

Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:49 AM (p8ODH)

274 Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2016 09:49 AM (p8ODH)

---

*waves*

Don't forget the tampons!

Posted by: SMFH while circling the drain... at April 07, 2016 09:50 AM (rlfds)

275 Okay. But please note what I said. it won't work here. This state will once again turn blue.

And the MFM that ignores everything from a crime 'foundation' to six magical coin tosses won't give a shit about the popular vote in Delaware.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:47 AM (326rv)

I'm in a Blue State also. But worthless suicidal actions really only worked out well in "Animal House"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:51 AM (V/InG)

276 I've never understood the attraction to Spotted Cow Ale. It's nothing special and there are so many other great brews in WI. Cute name I suppose. Heck, New Glarus even makes much better. Try Moon Man Pale Ale or Fat Squirrel Nut Brown Ale. Cow is just generic.

I refuse to drink anything that the lefty jackasses at New Glarus Brewing make.

Fuck them. I can make better myself, and there are better beers made around here anyhow.

Posted by: GMan at April 07, 2016 09:51 AM (sxq57)

277 I'm in a Blue State also. But worthless suicidal actions really only worked out well in "Animal House"
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Point taken.

Now, what worth does the opposite course of action have?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:52 AM (326rv)

278 Wharrbargl !

Posted by: Wharrbargl ! at April 07, 2016 09:52 AM (kTF2Z)

279 Okay. But please note what I said. it won't work here. This state will once again turn blue.

====

I'm for blue state voters casting for third party candidates or write-ins. You're right that your vote won't affect the electoral map, which is the only thing that counts [not you, never you] but such tactics promote an *orderly* collapse of the GOP as a party. Red and Purple State voters should obey their own conscience, Blues have a job to do.

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 09:52 AM (3ZtZW)

280 "At the rate my hard embargo list is growing, I may
be reduced to home-grown veggies, meat club meat, Mystic Monk coffee and
all second-hand clothes and books from the thrift shops.

Posted by: Sal at April 07, 2016 08:40 AM (MRX6w)"

My wife gets most of her new clothes from eshakti.com. You go to their website, take your measurements and type them in to your account and enter your credit card number. Then pick the clothing that you want from their website and in a week or two it will show up on your doorstep. It is kind of like Amazon for custom made clothing.

I don't know what their politics is since they don't say anything about it. I think their politics is primarily, "We like making money."

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 07, 2016 09:52 AM (QHgTq)

281 Posted by: DoublySymmetric at April 07, 2016 09:20 AM (Hw3b3)

They had great dress shirts. Well made, lasted forever, and were under $20.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)

282 OT: I think Open Blogger will enjoy THIS:

http://tinyurl.com/h6ceaoa

Posted by: SF at April 07, 2016 09:53 AM (I+jmQ)

283 \OT: I think Open Blogger will enjoy THIS:

Behold, the dawn of the DIY Art Thread.

BRB, enjoying the art.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 09:55 AM (9krrF)

284 Probably will get willowed for this but a rather sad day for family Hrothgar.

Daughter called early this AM to say she has decided she needs to put down her 20+ year old gelding. She's loved him and nursed through a lot, and he's has always been one of the sweetest horses I have known, but he's really failing and I am sure it's for the best, she'd never do it casually. Nevertheless it hurts when an beloved animal that has been part of your life for years has to go.

I've never been sure if I believe in that schmaltzy Rainbow Bridge crap, but I sure hope it's true!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:55 AM (wYnyS)

285 Posted by: Mama AJ at April 07, 2016 09:45 AM (nXeSu)

I doubt I have bought a non-sale item from Lands End (besides work shirts before they got pricy) in my life.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:56 AM (Zu3d9)

286 Count me as another pissed off Lands End customer who fired off a pissed off email to their customer service about the Gloria Steinem catalogue. WTF. I am a good customer and they lost me.

Posted by: Goldilocks at April 07, 2016 09:56 AM (RpRXw)

287 Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:55 AM (wYnyS)

I like most Animals more than most People

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:56 AM (V/InG)

288 272 Getting safely to. and from. the polling place might be problematic, considering the amount of Valu-Rite I think I will need that day!

Carpool with Abby Wombach. She's got that gay car.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at April 07, 2016 09:56 AM (vxE55)

289 Getting safely to. and from. the polling place might be problematic, considering the amount of Valu-Rite I think I will need that day!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:49 AM (wYnyS)

Uber, taxi, phone a friend.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:57 AM (voOPb)

290 Careful now; several here openly boasted of planning on voting for her Thighness if they didn't get the result they wanted.
Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 09:35 AM (326rv)

I know . Taking their marbles and going home. Fine it's America, they can do what they want, but does not mean I have sit here and listen to shit like that. Especially when a few or at least one of them tries to rationalize it as the noble thing to do. They can take that crap and shove it where.......
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:39 AM (V/InG)

Did you guys have the same position in 2012 because that attitude and position was much more prevalent here than it is now.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 07, 2016 09:57 AM (tm6wE)

291 >>My wife gets most of her new clothes from eshakti.com.

Pretty stuff. I'm been struggling to find knee length skirts and dresses for my teen daughter to wear to church.

I'm going to keep an eye on their sales...thank you!

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 07, 2016 09:58 AM (nXeSu)

292 I like most Animals more than most People

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 09:56 AM (V/InG)

Yes, the more I deal with people, the better I like my horses and dogs!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:59 AM (wYnyS)

293 Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:55 AM (wYnyS)

Send a photo of the horse to Misanthropic Humanitarian.....

[I know that horses aren't pets in the accepted sense]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:59 AM (Zu3d9)

294 Daughter called early this AM to say she has decided she needs to put down her 20+ year old gelding. She's loved him and nursed through a lot, and he's has always been one of the sweetest horses I have known, but he's really failing and I am sure it's for the best, she'd never do it casually. Nevertheless it hurts when an beloved animal that has been part of your life for years has to go.

I've never been sure if I believe in that schmaltzy Rainbow Bridge crap, but I sure hope it's true!

Sorry to hear that. Yes, it does hurt.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 10:00 AM (SvnHQ)

295 Uber, taxi, phone a friend.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 09:57 AM (voOPb)

Problem solved, unless I get a muzzie driver!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:00 AM (wYnyS)

296 About a week ago I was listening to Fox on the Sirius radio where John Stossel was hosting a debate between the candidates for the Libertarian presidential nomination.

One of the points that they made several times is that the Libertarians are expecting to do really well this year due to the number of disaffected Republican voters. They were talking something like 15% of the popular vote.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at April 07, 2016 10:00 AM (QHgTq)

297 Did you guys have the same position in 2012 because that attitude and position was much more prevalent here than it is now.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at April 07, 2016 09:57 AM (tm6wE)

I did 100%. Futile juvenile gestures are not my thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (V/InG)

298 >>I doubt I have bought a non-sale item from Lands End (besides work shirts before they got pricy) in my life.

Discover Card gives me 5 or 10 % cash back for there, JCP and a few others, so I wait for a sale AND free shipping, then get the cash back.

Oh, man, maybe they WANTED to get rid of me...

Hmph.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (nXeSu)

299 Just tried to close my PayPal account.

Says I can't because of pending authorizations, which is a crock since my last purchase was March 16th, and it was paid.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (LXJ1e)

300 @250 Verily, horse vs ox is worthy of a long argument. Longbow/crossbow.

Lot of things I could say, but I'll wait until we get something stirred up. But here's one thing: at Williamsburg, where they do their portrayal acting real well and everybody you bump into on the street is an actual authority on the person they're dressed like, the guy plowing with an ox told me that any bovine used to do work is technically an ox. The woman plowing a garden plot with the milk-cow (that's "Milch-cow" in 18th cent.) was a national meme image of "the girl I left behind me," women holding hearth and home together as their husbands were off gallivantin' in the Revolution. Or the French'n'Injun, to be bipartisan.

I still have secunt-cousins back in Conn. who "pull bulls" (bullocks, you know), and I'd never heard that an ox was anything but a grown-up bullock. Put a yoke (or a Mongo-saddle) on a bull, a steer, or a cow, and it's instantly an ox.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (xq1UY)

301 "Run a still, run a brothel, make black powder, run a foundry (take in scrap, make edged weapons.) Stop thinking like a consumer"
Already tooled up for two of those, studying on the third, but I don't think a brothel is an option at this point.

And regarding the point about small change in the post-whatever scenario, I have been saving nickels and old all-copper pennies for years .... the metals actually are more-or-less worth face value.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (gUoN4)

302 [I know that horses aren't pets in the accepted sense]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 09:59 AM (Zu3d9)

Once you've had a few horses, I think you'd find they're accepted!

I'll see if I can't find a picture, nice idea, thanks!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:02 AM (wYnyS)

303 Did you guys have the same position in 2012 because that attitude and position was much more prevalent here than it is now.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

2008: I voted for Sarah Palin and the hobbit loving career trough rider.

I voted for Mikey Castle (Smartest man in Delaware) in the 2010 Senate Primary. I was a good little boy, and did what my Betters told me to do. I then watched my Betters screw over the winner.

2012: I wanted Perry, watched him flame out, then watched Romney flame out. I got out and voted.

We all watched the GOP screw over primaries in AK, MS and KS.

I've been a good little boy, and I see where it's gotten us.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:02 AM (326rv)

304 I don't remember anybody saying they woud vote for Obama over Romney.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 10:03 AM (B48dK)

305 I've never been sure if I believe in that schmaltzy Rainbow Bridge crap, but I sure hope it's true!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 09:55 AM (wYnyS

Sorry to hear about this Hrothgar. Loosing a pet whether its a hamster or a horse sucks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 10:03 AM (voOPb)

306 @258 SMFH

Leave them too it. Those types are currently shielded from the consquences of voting for evil, but those days are numbered.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 10:03 AM (E8UjU)

307 I don't remember anybody saying they woud vote for Obama over Romney.
Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 10:03 AM (B48dK)

No but some people threatened to stay home or vote for Mickey Mouse

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:04 AM (V/InG)

308 Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (xq1UY)

Had a fascinating discussion with the ox-driver in Williamsburg about the subtleties of handling oxen. Those (re-enactor) people will be in good shape come the burning times!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:06 AM (wYnyS)

309 Futile juvenile gestures are not my thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (V/InG)

Yet you are a Yankees fan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:07 AM (Zu3d9)

310 Futile juvenile gestures are not my thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (V/InG)

Yet you are a Yankees fan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:07 AM (Zu3d9)

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:08 AM (V/InG)

311 Futile juvenile gestures are not my thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Yet you are a Yankees fan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

That would work better if he was a Cubs fan.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:08 AM (9krrF)

312 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 10:03 AM (voOPb)

Thanks for your thoughts!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:09 AM (wYnyS)

313 Walking out of a Wall Street area restaurant last night we were stopped by a Bernie supporter. He started going on how we were all evil WS types and that Bernie or Hillary was going to make sure we were penniless. I told him the best thing he could do was start running because we were each going to take turns kicking his ass and then when we were done, we were going to take turns pissing on him and his friends. And it would be worth it because we could afford to pay the lawyers.

I'm sick of these fucking people. It's about time we started fighting back before nothings left.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 10:09 AM (O0lVq)

314 310 Futile juvenile gestures are not my thing.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (V/InG)

Yet you are a Yankees fan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:07 AM (Zu3d9)

Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:08 AM (V/InG)

Futile is being a Brewers fan.
At least NGU is old enough to remember several trips to the WS

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 10:09 AM (voOPb)

315 Yet you are a Yankees fan?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:07 AM (Zu3d9)

The tickets were free last night, and it still cost me about $70 bucks?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:09 AM (V/InG)

316 I did 100%. Futile juvenile gestures are not my thing.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:01 AM (V/InG)

I don't care to try and compare 2016 to 2016 or '08 or any other year. One could make the argument that loyalty to the Republican Party has gotten one exactly nothing.

So why keep being loyal? That' my position. I owe them nothing. If they do something I want them to do, I'll vote for their candidates. If not, I won't.

I think there are millions of people who feel the same as I do, and maybe millions who don't. Probably one of the fundamental disagreements that happens around here is due to this.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 10:10 AM (Dj0WE)

317 I've been a good little boy, and I see where it's gotten us.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:02 AM (326rv)

There's a lot of that going around!

Posted by: Thad Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:10 AM (wYnyS)

318 This year is far worse than 2012.

The GOP had a clown car of people saying the same shit. And Trump...of all people.... gained traction. They had over a dozen people, several of whom were up there for no apparent reason, clutter the place up, blundered into one MFM shitshow after another, setting the stage for a self funding blowhard that made sense when he smacked around George Snuffalupagus for being a Clinton creature/donor/impartial reporter for the opposition.

The only times the GOP made any sign of life? After Trump ran his big mouth.

Trump was an enema to the colon of the GOP.

And even that's petered out.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:10 AM (326rv)

319 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:08 AM (V/InG)

Speaking of juvenile....Mr. Pine-tar gave up six runs! Lucky for him the bats were hot.

Where were you sitting?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:10 AM (Zu3d9)

320 Those (re-enactor) people will be in good shape come the burning times!
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:06 AM (wYnyS)
***
Great, so the LARPers and the SCA types will inherit the earth?

They still won't get laid, though.

And, if my plans come to fruition, they'll make wonderful peasants.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 10:10 AM (lutOX)

321 $70 ?So a beer and a hotdog.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 10:11 AM (B48dK)

322 Being a history buff, I am starting to see so many parallels between 2016 America and 1788 France.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 10:11 AM (Qvgg/)

323 Someone upthread mentioned that the consequences of a 'protest vote' is totally different in blue states than other places. In deep blue (like Illinois), the Rs are so deeply into D politics that they are sometimes even bigger cheerleaders for failed D policies than the average D. In some instances if you are fortunate enough to have a libertarian or constitutional alternative, I think you should go for it if you have some kind of DIABLO running.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 07, 2016 10:11 AM (MIKMs)

324 Had a fascinating discussion with the ox-driver in Williamsburg about the subtleties of handling oxen.

Those (re-enactor) people will be in good shape come the burning times!

The original teamsters!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 10:11 AM (SvnHQ)

325 Yet you are a Yankees fan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

That would work better if he was a Cubs fan.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:08 AM (9krrF)

Haven't you heard? The Cubs have already been awarded this year's World Series championship.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (Dj0WE)

326 >>
I don't remember anybody saying they woud vote for Obama over Romney.

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 10:03 AM (B48dK)
<<

No, but quite a few spent months destroying Romney as a candidate, in fact better than the Democrats could, then sat home. Biggest insult? After it was over, they told us what a terrible candidate he was.

Frankly, I think people like that should do us all some good and go hang themselves.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (O0lVq)

327 Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 10:09 AM (O0lVq)

I love the smell of poetry in the morning!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (wYnyS)

328 So why keep being loyal? That' my position. I owe them nothing. If they do something I want them to do, I'll vote for their candidates. If not, I won't.

Because the alternative is worse

Where were you sitting?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:10 AM (Zu3d9)

Right Field Field Level 6th row...pretty good seats...great crowd around us..real funny

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (V/InG)

329 Heh. FBI chief giving a Q and A session at Kenyon College. I can remember when FBI would have had a branch office at Kenyon College.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (xq1UY)

330 Puerto Rico: Detroit with palm trees.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 07, 2016 10:13 AM (KCQo0)

331 The original teamsters!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 10:11 AM (SvnHQ)

That was before unions when they actually had to work!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:14 AM (wYnyS)

332 Late morning horde.

Sure is pissing on Mordor today.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at April 07, 2016 10:14 AM (mEZce)

333 Haven't you heard? The Cubs have already been awarded this year's World Series championship.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (Dj0WE)

Fantastic!

I'm bringing Kate Upton to the parade!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:14 AM (Zu3d9)

334
I dreamt I was fighting zombies last night. It was in a park and very dark. One walker was riding a bike. And I could hear puppies barking so I had to try to save them. It was not pleasant.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at April 07, 2016 10:14 AM (iQIUe)

335 Is it ever going to get any better?

*shakes Magic 8-ball*

"All signs point to no."

Well, that's that.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2016 10:14 AM (0mRoj)

336 Being a history buff, I am starting to see so many parallels between 2016 America and 1788 France.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 07, 2016 10:11 AM (Qvgg/)

Part of me is looking forward to the ripping off of heads, and sticking them on pikes.

Sadly, all too often, it's the wrong heads though.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 10:15 AM (Dj0WE)

337 Great, so the LARPers and the SCA types will inherit the earth?

They still won't get laid, though.

...have you ever met SCA girls...?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:15 AM (9krrF)

338 Part of me is looking forward to the ripping off of heads, and sticking them on pikes.

I'm skipping the "ripping off of heads" part when the time comes.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:15 AM (9krrF)

339 Haven't you heard? The Cubs have already been awarded this year's World Series championship.

Everyone remembers last year's World Series winners...the Washington Nationals.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 07, 2016 10:16 AM (659DL)

340 Yet you are a Yankees fan?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

That would work better if he was a Cubs fan.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:08 AM (9krrF)

Haven't you heard? The Cubs have already been awarded this year's World Series championship. Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (Dj0WE)
=====

But the eeeeevil Ricketts family will be crushed because of their political views. Trying not to mention he-who-shall-not-be-dissed. Cubs are doomed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 07, 2016 10:16 AM (MIKMs)

341
Walking out of a Wall Street area restaurant last night we were stopped by a Bernie supporter. He started going on how we were all evil WS types and that Bernie or Hillary was going to make sure we were penniless. I told him the best thing he could do was start running because we were each going to take turns kicking his ass and then when we were done, we were going to take turns pissing on him and his friends. And it would be worth it because we could afford to pay the lawyers.

I'm sick of these fucking people. It's about time we started fighting back before nothings left.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 10:09 AM (O0lVq)

---------------------

That's one happy ending for the evening. Since I'm a skinny girl, I wouldn't have threatened an ass-kicking, but I would have loudly called for the nearest Wall Street-looking Democrat and told the Bernie supporter to repeat everything he'd said.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 10:16 AM (pC96u)

342 >>Daughter called early this AM to say she has decided she needs to put down her 20+ year old gelding. She's loved him and nursed through a lot, and he's has always been one of the sweetest horses I have known, but he's really failing and I am sure it's for the best, she'd never do it casually. Nevertheless it hurts when an beloved animal that has been part of your life for years has to go.

>>I've never been sure if I believe in that schmaltzy Rainbow Bridge crap, but I sure hope it's true!

Sorry to heat about your daughter's loss. Losing a beloved pet is losing a member of the family.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 10:16 AM (/tuJf)

343 Kate Upton still banging that pitcher?

Posted by: steevy at April 07, 2016 10:16 AM (B48dK)

344 And, if my plans come to fruition, they'll make wonderful peasants.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 10:10 AM (lutOX)

It's best when your serfs have skills, especially marketable skills for the barter economy!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:16 AM (wYnyS)

345 ...have you ever met SCA girls...?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:15 AM (9krrF)
***
Talking about the dudes.

Yeah, I've 'ploughed' a wench or two in my time.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 10:17 AM (lutOX)

346 Haven't you heard? The Cubs have already been awarded this year's World Series championship.

Posted by: BurtTC

Cubs hit by tragic career-ending injuries in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:17 AM (9krrF)

347 Fantastic!

I'm bringing Kate Upton to the parade!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2016 10:14 AM (Zu3d9)

I don't think girls will be allowed. I'm pretty sure most of the Cub luv going on these days has to do with mancrushes on Joe Madman and Krissy Bryants dreamy dreamy blue eyes. Sportswriters dream of riding in vans with those two.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 10:17 AM (Dj0WE)

348 Still, even now, folks keep the Demcrats vs. Republicans myth alive.

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:17 AM (MQEz6)

349 The original teamsters!
You ain't just a-woofin'. My grandfather was one, and when he went into horse-trading the rest of the family took that as a sign he was not entirely honest. There may have been a little something to their suspicions.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:18 AM (xq1UY)

350 Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 10:16 AM (/tuJf)

Yes it is. The old boy was with me for 5 years and daughter took him with her 10 years ago, so he's been part of my entire family for a long time.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:19 AM (wYnyS)

351 Part of me is looking forward to the ripping off of heads, and sticking them on pikes.

I'm skipping the "ripping off of heads" part when the time comes.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:15 AM (9krrF)

Right. Some people will be needed to man the guillotines.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 07, 2016 10:19 AM (Dj0WE)

352 Had a fascinating discussion with the ox-driver in Williamsburg about the subtleties of handling oxen.

I would love to hear that conversation.
So I went to youtube, and there is video on handling, training oxen. The part that fascinates me is the animal psychology aspects like Cesar Millan and Buck Brannaman do it.

There is a youtube video of a Magpie (I think) solving a complicated puzzle to get a treat. How do they do that?

Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 10:19 AM (4dD8I)

353 No, but quite a few spent months destroying Romney as a candidate, in fact better than the Democrats could, then sat home. Biggest insult? After it was over, they told us what a terrible candidate he was.

Frankly, I think people like that should do us all some good and go hang themselves.
Posted by: Marcus T

Romney made history by losing to a guy that by precedent should never have gotten re-elected. He failed to keep the base (we're discussing that here), he fucking failed after the first debate and no one hammered the Dear leader.

He was already a foreign policy loser, obamacare was already a practical AND a security nightmare, and his party couldn't be bothered to create budgets.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:19 AM (326rv)

354 Futile is being a Brewers fan.
At least NGU is old enough to remember several trips to the WS

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 07, 2016 10:09 AM (voOPb)

Hey, I'm old enough to remember the Brewers trip to the WS. Unfortunately, they didn't win....

My mother said the entire state went nuts when the Braves beat the Yankees in the 50's, so it's not like Milwaukee has never had a WS win - just not in my lifetime

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 10:20 AM (u0lmX)

355 I spoke to one of my political guru's in Ohio and he
think's Trump has Boobio and Kasich stitched up for their delegates to
pull him over the threshhold. We'll see.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at April 07, 2016 08:44 AM (E8UjU)

As shown in Louisiana, Tennessee and other places, Trump doesn't even have Trump's delegates sown up... because in the end, they are not Trump's delegates (or Rubio's or Kasich's) to move like chess pieces. They belong to the local and district party committee's that will select them and are sending them to Cleveland (where they must follow state party rules which mostly release them to vote however they want on the 2nd or 3rd ballot).

With over 60% of the actual Republican party not liking Trump (not counting the Dems that voted for him in open primaries), it is unlikely that Trump friendly delegates are going to be sent in quantities sufficient to elect Trump on a second ballot (or any subsequent ballot).

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:20 AM (nUJM6)

356 I am starting to see so many parallels between 2016 America and 1788 France.

Ah. A Jeffersonian, then.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:21 AM (xq1UY)

357 Still, even now, folks keep the Demcrats vs. Republicans myth alive.

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:17 AM (MQEz6)

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to hear you say a thing like that!

By the way, I'd prefer my winnings in cash if you don't mind!

Posted by: Captain Prince Rebus at April 07, 2016 10:21 AM (wYnyS)

358 Great, so the LARPers and the SCA types will inherit the earth?

They still won't get laid, though.

...have you ever met SCA girls...?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist

heh.

Speaking from experience?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:21 AM (326rv)

359 Plus, the Crew rebuilding! Rebuilding I tell you!

I don't expect much this year, but if David Stearns could turn the formerly pitiful Astros around, maybe in a year or two....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 10:22 AM (u0lmX)

360 Part of me is looking forward to the ripping off of heads, and sticking them on pikes.

I'm skipping the "ripping off of heads" part when the time comes.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:15 AM (9krrF)

I'll do it. Vengeance will never taste sweeter.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 10:22 AM (SvnHQ)

361 ...have you ever met SCA girls...?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist

Steampunk girls are easier.

Posted by: Witchdoktor at April 07, 2016 10:22 AM (PFy0L)

362 Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:19 AM (326rv)

BUT, other than that...

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:22 AM (wYnyS)

363 but if David Stearns could turn the formerly pitiful Astros around, maybe in a year or two....

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 10:22 AM (u0lmX)

You have one hell of a Shortstop

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (V/InG)

364
Heh. FBI chief giving a Q and A session at Kenyon College. I can remember when FBI would have had a branch office at Kenyon College.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:12 AM (xq1UY)
--------------------------

Comey in response to Hillary email question: "Let me tell you all about that investigation."
(He then proceeds not to comment)

Comey on the X Files: "That's all true."

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (pC96u)

365
Had a fascinating discussion with the ox-driver in Williamsburg about the subtleties of handling oxen. Those (re-enactor) people will be in good shape come the burning times!

I've always, since I was a child, been fascinated by Colonial-era printing. I could happily (and have done) spend all day at the printer's shop in Williamsburg watching them work. Were I younger and without any real responsibilities, I would decamp to Virginia in an instant and try to become an apprentice there. It's hard work, but I really think I would be happy doing it.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (X6fMO)

366 Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:20 AM (nUJM6)

Yes, they will be free to vote for Ryan.

Ryan/Haley 2016: The Future is Calling!

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (MQEz6)

367 They belong to the local and district party committee's that will select them and are sending them to Cleveland (where they must follow state party rules which mostly release them to vote however they want on the 2nd or 3rd ballot).

Posted by: redbanzai

I love it when you go on about following rules. It gets me hot and independent.

Posted by: Sen. Cokebear at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (326rv)

368 From the sidebar...how could diabetes QUADRUPLE in 20 years? That seems like a medical panic with some degree of over-diagnosis.

Posted by: Max Power at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (QCc6B)

369 You have one hell of a Shortstop

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (V/InG)

Yeah, I'm liking what I've seen of him so far...only 3 games into the season and he's made some terrific plays.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 10:24 AM (u0lmX)

370 Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:20 AM (nUJM6)

Yes, they will be free to vote for Ryan.

Ryan/Haley 2016: The Future is Calling!
Posted by: eman

"It's not me; it's you. I'm out."

Posted by: The future called collect at April 07, 2016 10:24 AM (326rv)

371 I'm skipping the "ripping off of heads" part when the time comes.

Posted by: Brother Cavil

See, this is why we can't have good rhetoric around here.
Looks like people are not understanding your...main thrust.
You do mean you'll empiken them whole, and not just heads -- right?
Because, awesome. Vladsome, even.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:25 AM (xq1UY)

372
Still, even now, folks keep the Demcrats vs. Republicans myth alive.

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:17 AM (MQEz6)
---------------------------
That's why, in my Wall Street fantasy (#341), I was thinking of giving my collared Wall Street Dem the moral of the story: "Your choice, baby, authoritarianism or libertarianism."

But it could be cognitive overload. These people still believe it's left vs right, blue vs red, Dem vs Rep.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 10:27 AM (pC96u)

373 "There is a youtube video of a Magpie (I think) solving a complicated puzzle to get a treat. How do they do that?"

That's retarded, Sir!

Posted by: Rachel Genteel at April 07, 2016 10:27 AM (ptqRm)

374 >>Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:19 AM (326rv)
<<

I'm no particular fan of Romney. I never thought he was a good candidate. To wit- who picks a Blue-State Republican that authored the original Obamacare proposal which was one of the big issues?

*BLINK*

Right there people should have said WTF are you doing?

But my original point is at least be honest from the beginning. There are a lot of Republicans who just sit by, throw darts, do all they can to destroy the candidate, don't vote and then lament how that candidate sucks.

Hey, F-them if they don't think I've noticed how disingenuous they are.

You don't win with people like that on your side. If it isn't patently obvious by now. That's my problem with the "burn it down" crowd, who apparently have now changed their dishonest tune to "Trump would be worse than burning it down". Maybe. We don't know. Let's see if he loses. Then we can say "told you so".

I'm tired pf people who think they can have it both ways.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 10:27 AM (O0lVq)

375 Ha! This is Cruz

http://tinyurl.com/jy3j8et

Posted by: Bigby's Fingertips at April 07, 2016 10:27 AM (3ZtZW)

376 >>>>From the sidebar...how could diabetes QUADRUPLE in 20 years? That seems like a medical panic with some degree of over-diagnosis.
.
.
.
.They changed the threshold limits in blood testing just like they did with bad cholesterol.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at April 07, 2016 10:28 AM (iONHu)

377 Yeah, I'm liking what I've seen of him so far...only 3 games into the season and he's made some terrific plays.
Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 10:24 AM (u0lmX)

Shit he has 3 Homers already and hit one 450 Feet last night to dead center and it was still going when it hit the Mohegen Sun Bar

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:28 AM (V/InG)

378 Because, awesome. Vladsome, even.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:25 AM (xq1UY)
***
The heads....you're looking at the heads....

Sometimes, he goes too far. He's the first to admit it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at April 07, 2016 10:28 AM (lutOX)

379 @368 QUADRUPLE
It's done with moving goalposts and statistical "studies." Same as overweight, The Spectrums, and third-hand smoking. Mathematicians at work.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at April 07, 2016 10:28 AM (xq1UY)

380 From the sidebar...how could diabetes QUADRUPLE in 20 years? That seems like a medical panic with some degree of over-diagnosis.>>>

Between fat kids and people living 20 years longer than they used to. It may be a real number. My father started taking insulin when he was 84 his dad died at 65.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 07, 2016 10:29 AM (tf9Ne)

381
Great. I make a comment about something I'd like to do with the remainder of my life and it's under a skankified, spirochete-infested sock.

I'm sure there must be some joke about Sandy Fluke and ink balls, but I can't figure one out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2016 10:30 AM (X6fMO)

382 Yes, they will be free to vote for Ryan.

Ryan/Haley 2016: The Future is Calling!

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (MQEz6)

Nope... not under Romney's rules, not under old rules and not under ANY RULES that would be approved by the delegates to the convention.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:32 AM (nUJM6)

383 At some point, it should stop raining today.

I hope.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 07, 2016 10:32 AM (ptqRm)

384 You don't win with people like that on your side. If it isn't patently obvious by now. That's my problem with the "burn it down" crowd, who apparently have now changed their dishonest tune to "Trump would be worse than burning it down". Maybe. We don't know. Let's see if he loses. Then we can say "told you so".

I'm tired pf people who think they can have it both ways.
Posted by: Marcus T

And I'm tired of people demanding my loyalty, time, money enthusiasm and then lying to me, delivering the crap the other side wants, engaging in Kabuki theater AND THEN blaming losses on people who "just sit back, complain and don't vote"

I keep saying this:

In AK, the peasants DID get out, DID vote, DID support a candidate.......and the PARTY (not the peasants) torpedoed him.

In MS, they attacked their own voters.

In Delaware, they attacked the winner of the primary and the loser sat it out, along with $4M in campaign money.

I'm tired of a party that wants it all their own way.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:33 AM (326rv)

385 That's why, in my Wall Street fantasy (#341), I was thinking of giving my collared Wall Street Dem the moral of the story: "Your choice, baby, authoritarianism or libertarianism."

But it could be cognitive overload. These people still believe it's left vs right, blue vs red, Dem vs Rep.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 10:27 AM (pC96u)

Remember the scene from "The Dark Knight Rises" where the Occupy crowd (basically) has overrun Gotham and is looting the homes of the rich.

When I saw that, I thought of the Silicon Valley rich hiding under the bed as their McMansions are overrun, thinking to themselves "But I was for gay marriage and abortion! I voted for Brown! How can this be happening to me?"

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at April 07, 2016 10:33 AM (u0lmX)

386 That's my problem with the "burn it down" crowd, who apparently have now
changed their dishonest tune to "Trump would be worse than burning it
down".

Umm, the "burn it down" crowd are the pro-Trumpies

Posted by: chemjeff at April 07, 2016 10:34 AM (+B4Qh)

387 not under ANY RULES that would be approved by the delegates to the convention.
Posted by: redbanzai

Is that what you see when you stare into the Palantir? All I'm getting is reruns.

Posted by: Gandalf the offwhite at April 07, 2016 10:34 AM (326rv)

388
Ryan/Haley 2016: The Future is Calling!
Posted by: eman
-------------------------

At 3:00 a.m., no less.

Posted by: iforgot at April 07, 2016 10:34 AM (pC96u)

389 In an interview with Charlie Rose last week, Kelly renewed her sentiments that her colleague Bill O'Reilly should have done more to defend her in his interview with Trump when the GOP candidate continued disparaging her.

I had to laugh at her weapons-grade naivete. I would like to tell her, "Uh, Megyn? The only thing O'Reilly cares about is O'Reilly, and all of you at Fox News, as well as Fox News itself, are just tools for his own ego gratification, to be used or discarded at his whim. You don't already know this?"

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2016 10:35 AM (jfBVm)

390
Posted by: Marcus T at April 07, 2016 10:27 AM (O0lVq)

In the 2012 Primaries I fought against Mitty Mouse tooth and nail, but I promised I would vote for him and support him if he got the nod.

Sadly, he got the nomination.

I kept my promise and after he lost I vowed never to support the gope again, ever.

I'm keeping that promise, too.

Sme folks out there just refuse to open their eyes. Too scary, I guess.

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:35 AM (MQEz6)

391 People should worry more about supporting their own Republican Candidates and less on tearing down the Other Republican Candidates and calling them names. Short sighted to say the least

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:36 AM (V/InG)

392 I'm wondering about this delegate thing and how individuals might vote when released...

The currency of politics is patronage. Anyone who has been in politics for awhile or who relies on the party for their support has a list of people as long as their arm who expect to be paid off with a job.

These folks range from the kid who drove the van in Iowa (Assistant Secretary of Commerce to Vietnam) to contributors (Special Advisor to the Budget Director) to party apparatchiks.

Trump has the advantage of having a very short list, so each potential Trump delegate has a better chance at a great position. Open bidding will be the order of the day.

It would be crazy for some Idaho delegate to vote the way the party is telling him (or her) when going with Trump could get them an Under Secretary position.

Human nature. You've got a better chance of defying gravity as you do changing human nature.

Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2016 10:37 AM (Zs4uk)

393 Is that what you see when you stare into the Palantir? All I'm getting is reruns.

Posted by: Gandalf the offwhite at April 07, 2016 10:34 AM (326rv)

What I see is Trump supporters trying to pretend that it is Trump or GOPe and getting more and more desperate as he gets closer and closer to not getting 1237.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:38 AM (nUJM6)

394 People should worry more about supporting their own Republican Candidates and less on tearing down the Other Republican Candidates and calling them names. Short sighted to say the least
Posted by: Nevergiveup

This points to a fundamental difference I think between us and dems.

They not only support, but revere Klansmen, guys who leave women to drown, fake indians; and they're proud of it.

Look at us in comparison.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:38 AM (326rv)

395 Can we get a Masters thread going?

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 10:38 AM (gmeXX)

396 Great. I make a comment about something I'd like to do with the remainder of my life and it's under a skankified, spirochete-infested sock.
I'm sure there must be some joke about Sandy Fluke and ink balls, but I can't figure one out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2016 10:30 AM (X6fMO)

No problem, sir. I can fix that for you... for a price.

Heh.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2016 10:39 AM (jfBVm)

397 395 Can we get a Masters thread going?
Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 10:38 AM (gmeXX)

Is it baiting season already?

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (jfBVm)

398 At some point, it should stop raining today.

Heh, I said the same thing yesterday about the snow. (for most of the last #twoweeks, and for the next five days) Not any great accumulation; less than an inch every twelve hours to 1-3 inches every twelve hours.

It..just..doesn't...stop.

Posted by: Randolph Bismuth at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (4dD8I)

399 What I see is Trump supporters trying to pretend that it is Trump or GOPe and getting more and more desperate as he gets closer and closer to not getting 1237.
Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:38 AM (nUJM6)

Perhaps for some.

Others wait and see.

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (MQEz6)

400 So what are the odds that the GOPe throws us somebody like Ryan at a contested convention instead of either Cruz or Trump?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (KUaJL)

401 Can we get a Masters thread going?
Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 10:38 AM (gmeXX)

Is it baiting season already?

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (jfBVm)

LOL

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (nUJM6)

402 Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:36 AM (V/InG)

That seems so elemental a concept, it is truly amazing that no gravitas laden "electable" candidate can seem to grasp it.

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (wYnyS)

403
395 Can we get a Masters thread going?

______________________

That's racist.

Start a Slaves thread first.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (KCQo0)

404 The only enthusiasm I have now is when I think of stopping Hillary in November. Beyond that, nah. Oh, I favor Cruz for the general, and I voted for him in my primary.
Is anyone else here experiencing this general feeling of, I dunno, futility, with this election? Serious question.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 10:41 AM (sdxPm)

405 Can we get a Masters thread going?

Donatello? Raphael? Michelangelo?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 10:41 AM (SvnHQ)

406 >>In an interview with Charlie Rose last week, Kelly renewed her
sentiments that her colleague Bill O'Reilly should have done more to
defend her in his interview with Trump when the GOP candidate continued
disparaging her.

She keeps whining about that in interview after interview.

Really, really grates that she plays the victim - "Poor me, my male colleague didn't stand up for me!" - while simultaneously claiming she's a brave female warrior who was up for the challenge of sparring with Trump.

Such a classic feminist move, claiming both victimhood AND fearlessness, courage. Really have lost a lot of respect for Kelly with this obvious (but very effective) ploy to get mainstream and feminist support. She'll be on another channel within a year.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (NOIQH)

407 If time travel ever becomes possible, you will have seen yourself observing yourself during some life changing episode and trying desperately to warn yourself not to do it (or to do it).

Posted by: Sphynx at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (OZmbA)

408 The only thing O'Reilly cares about is O'Reilly, and all of you at Fox News, as well as Fox News itself, are just tools for his own ego gratification, to be used or discarded at his whim.

-
Substitute "Kelly" for "O'Reilly", change the gender, and the statement is still true.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (Nwg0u)

409 So what are the odds that the GOPe throws us somebody like Ryan at a contested convention instead of either Cruz or Trump?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (KUaJL)

Because we live in a quantum world, asymptotic to zero.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (nUJM6)

410 386 That's my problem with the "burn it down" crowd, who apparently have now
changed their dishonest tune to "Trump would be worse than burning it
down".

Umm, the "burn it down" crowd are the pro-Trumpies
Posted by: chemjeff at April 07, 2016 10:34 AM (+B4Qh)

That would be incorrect. I don't support Trump and I would like to see the entire rotten, corrupt, oligarchic edifice burn to the fucking ground.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (0mRoj)

411 That seems so elemental a concept, it is truly amazing that no gravitas laden "electable" candidate can seem to grasp it.
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (wYnyS)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (V/InG)

412 Human nature. You've got a better chance of defying gravity as you do changing human nature.
Posted by: jwest at April 07, 2016 10:37 AM (Zs4uk)

---------------------------------

I believe that Kasich will go to Trump for a deal. That's if Trump doesn't get the necessary number of delegates to win outright.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (LXJ1e)

413 I would decamp to Virginia in an instant and try to become an apprentice there. It's hard work, but I really think I would be happy doing it.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 07, 2016 10:23 AM (X6fMO)

Ha! Lady, the only hard work you've ever done is as a conductor on the choo-choo train of love.

Whoooo! Whooooooooo! ALLLLLLL ABOARD!

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2016 10:43 AM (jfBVm)

414 Can we get a Masters thread going?
_____________________________

What am I? Chopped liver?

Posted by: Johnson at April 07, 2016 10:43 AM (KCQo0)

415 So what are the odds that the GOPe throws us somebody like Ryan at a contested convention instead of either Cruz or Trump?

------------

I'd say very low. The delegates for the first time have real power. And for the most part they are rank and file guys/gals who will in general be loyal to Trump and Cruz. If they cannot consolidate around either of those two after a few ballots, I can certainly see them looking for an outside candidate, but it would not be a Ryan - more likely a Walker type. At that point, why would Ryan want to be the nominee anyway?

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 10:43 AM (gmeXX)

416 What I see is Trump supporters trying to pretend that it is Trump or GOPe and getting more and more desperate as he gets closer and closer to not getting 1237.
Posted by: redbanzai

What I see is people pretending that rules cannot/will not change.

As if this party has never done that...Ever.

The necessary and sufficient conditions for you being right are that the party is better than it is, and/or that the mechanism for changing rules is such that radical changes CANNOT occur.

The conditions for others being right is that the party behaves exactly as it has for more than six years now and that those mechanisms can be gamed.

And you're also hiding behind Trump. Cruz has started to make these comments. What reason does he have to say anything similar to trump? Arguably, he should now be saying the opposite of whatever comes out of his mouth.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:43 AM (326rv)

417 Is anyone else here experiencing this general feeling of, I dunno, futility, with this election? Serious question.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 10:41 AM (sdxPm)

My feelings of futility extend well beyond this election into almost every aspect of our transformed progressive society!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:43 AM (wYnyS)

418 The only enthusiasm I have now is when I think of
stopping Hillary in November. Beyond that, nah. Oh, I favor Cruz for the
general, and I voted for him in my primary.

Is anyone else here experiencing this general feeling of, I dunno, futility, with this election? Serious question.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 10:41 AM (sdxPm)

I see a lot of futility in other people... I don't feel it myself but I see it. It is not going to be easy or painless, but we can still get our country back

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:44 AM (nUJM6)

419 Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (NOIQH)

That's cool. I won't watch her there either.

Posted by: Golfman at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (jIgQw)

420 Donatello? Raphael? Michelangelo?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2016 10:41 AM (SvnHQ)

ninja turtle thread?

Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (HtUkt)

421 new thread

Posted by: Max Power at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (QCc6B)

422 Is anyone else here experiencing this general feeling of, I dunno, futility, with this election?
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No.

Posted by: Vermin Supreme at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (KCQo0)

423
Is anyone else here experiencing this general feeling of, I dunno, futility, with this election? Serious question.

Absolutely. Only the team jerseys will change. The Deep State, the unelected bureaucracy and the monied will still rule for their own comfort. The power of the federal leviathan will never be cut back and will continue to be hijacked for the express purpose of redefining and curtailing the concept of "liberty" to the ability to wave a flag and cook a hamburger on the Fourth of July.

We are badly in need of a Reign of Terror. Or, as J.J. likes to say, our own Pinochet.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (X6fMO)

424 >>People should worry more about supporting their own Republican Candidates and less on tearing down the Other Republican Candidates and calling them names. Short sighted to say the least

Yea, we should be more like the Democrats who currently are watching their two candidates insist the other isn't even qualified to be president. Now that's unifying!

Seriously, this shit goes on every single primary and has since the Republic was founded. We aren't even close to some of the worst stuff said and done in previous primaries this cycle but every single primary some people insist this is the worst one ever and they will sit out if their particular candidate doesn't get the nod over the other RINO, scumbag, unworthy, blah, blah, blah because only their candidate is the true one and if you don't agree you are stupid and blind.

The fact that we now have 7x24 cable and blogs that are also open 7x24 where we can insult the candidates, each other the weather or what ever else we want to complain about may make it seem worse but it isn't. Not even close.

I think Trump is a dishonest assclown mostly because he is and always has been a dishonest assclown. Some feel different. So we argue about it.

At the end of the day I will make my decision as to what to do about my vote and it won't be influenced by arguments here or anywhere else. I suspect this is true for just about everyone regardless of what is said here.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (/tuJf)

425 Nood.

Posted by: HH at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (DrCtv)

426 400 So what are the odds that the GOPe throws us somebody like Ryan at a contested convention instead of either Cruz or Trump?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at April 07, 2016 10:40 AM (KUaJL)

Here, let me illustrate to you the chances of this *not* happening with a snowball and a blowtorch.

Posted by: OregonMuse at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (jfBVm)

427 So what are the odds that the GOPe throws us somebody like Ryan at a contested convention instead of either Cruz or Trump?

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I'd say very low.

If they cannot consolidate around either of those two after a few ballots, I can certainly see them looking for an outside candidate, but it would not be a Ryan - more likely a Walker type. At that point, why would Ryan want to be the nominee anyway?
Posted by: SH

Yet another voice saying that a brokered convention is possible, remotely so.

But according to current rules, this is an impossibility.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (326rv)

428 That would be incorrect. I don't support Trump and I
would like to see the entire rotten, corrupt, oligarchic edifice burn
to the fucking ground.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (0mRoj)

No need to burn it down... it is already a dead husk with futile ideas of still holding power.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:46 AM (nUJM6)

429 Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2016 10:42 AM (NOIQH)

Stop watching Faux, you can thank me later!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 07, 2016 10:47 AM (wYnyS)

430 418 The only enthusiasm I have now is when I think of
stopping Hillary in November. Beyond that, nah. Oh, I favor Cruz for the
general, and I voted for him in my primary.

Is anyone else here experiencing this general feeling of, I dunno, futility, with this election? Serious question.

Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 10:41 AM (sdxPm)

I see a lot of futility in other people... I don't feel it myself but I see it. It is not going to be easy or painless, but we can still get our country back
Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:44 AM (nUJM6)

You really believe Cruz can help do that?

Posted by: eman at April 07, 2016 10:47 AM (MQEz6)

431 Yet another voice saying that a brokered convention is possible, remotely so.

But according to current rules, this is an impossibility.

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Well if you get stuck in an infinite loop and stalemate, rules will be modified.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 10:47 AM (gmeXX)

432 What I see is Trump supporters trying to pretend that it is Trump or GOPe and getting more and more desperate as he gets closer and closer to not getting 1237.

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Soon it won't be hypothetical.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 07, 2016 10:48 AM (Nwg0u)

433 404 The only enthusiasm I have now is when I think of stopping Hillary in November. Beyond that, nah. Oh, I favor Cruz for the general, and I voted for him in my primary.
Is anyone else here experiencing this general feeling of, I dunno, futility, with this election? Serious question.
Posted by: kraken at April 07, 2016 10:41 AM (sdxPm)

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My sentiments exactly.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 07, 2016 10:48 AM (kTF2Z)

434
Yet another voice saying that a brokered convention is possible, remotely so.

But according to current rules, this is an impossibility.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:45 AM (326rv)

The rules can be suspended but it would take the votes of 2/3rds of the delegates... I don't see that happening even if it is theoretically possible.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 10:48 AM (nUJM6)

435 From the sidebar...how could diabetes QUADRUPLE in 20 years? That seems like a medical panic with some degree of over-diagnosis.>>>

Between fat kids and people living 20 years longer than they used to. It may be a real number. My father started taking insulin when he was 84 his dad died at 65.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at April 07, 2016 10:29 AM (tf9Ne)

I have no doubt this is the case. I'ts not so much overdiagnosis, as it is today's lifestyle. Go back and look at photos of the general population say 30 years ago and look at today. Obesity and sedentary lifestyle is the biggest factors, IMO, as opposed to simply saying that we eat more carbs. We eat MORE as a general rule, which contributes to piling on fat, which contributes to many of the ills we experience today.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 07, 2016 10:50 AM (ph1j2)

436 Donatello? Raphael? Michelangelo?

Posted by: rickb223

Wait, is this painters or ninja turtles?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at April 07, 2016 10:50 AM (9krrF)

437 The rules can be suspended but it would take the votes of 2/3rds of the delegates... I don't see that happening even if it is theoretically possible.
Posted by: redbanzai

Well if you get stuck in an infinite loop and stalemate, rules will be modified.

Posted by: SH

Combine these.

No one came in the door with 1237.

No one has been able to get 1237 after (whatever) number of rounds.

The delegates are realizing that every nasty thing said about Cleveland is true+riots+summer.

Room service can suck.

And then........'a motion to unify our party' (and to get the Hell out of Cleveland)

True story: The college of Cardinals convene and sequester themselves to elect the new Pope.

On at least one occaison, people started sending in crappy food, in the hopes that they would get on with things and produce a result.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:53 AM (326rv)

438 The rules can be suspended but it would take the votes of 2/3rds of the delegates... I don't see that happening even if it is theoretically possible.

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I don't either. I see the delegates coalescing around either Trump or Cruz (and more likely Cruz - unless Trump is only a few votes shy). But if neither side can close the deal after a few ballots (again something I would find unlikely), then I could see the delegates look to someone else. Someone like a Walker. I doubt they would look to Ryan, because despite what people think, the delegates actually control the process not the GOPe. They could suspend the rules and vote in someone like a Walker just to move the convention along (or to close it out).

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 10:54 AM (gmeXX)

439 And then........'a motion to unify our party' (and to get the Hell out of Cleveland)

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Exactly. Its possible, if not probable. But we'd be in unchartered territory at least for most delegates. Either Trump will prove to be a great negotiator, or Cruz will prove to be a superior politician. One of those should be able to cobble up a majority.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 10:56 AM (gmeXX)

440 Is it true that Mary Cloggenstein is on one of the videotapes of the Planned Parenthood videographer?

Are we actually going to see what she looks like after lo these many years?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 07, 2016 10:56 AM (NjiZL)

441 hey could suspend the rules and vote in someone like a Walker just to move the convention along (or to close it out).
Posted by: SH

But for that to happen, the front runner would need to be hindered as much as possible.

Supporting the guy in second would help, but...if we were to half-ass it, then he couldn't seal the deal or even close either.

And if we were to prop up a son of a mailman (work with me; it's not as zany as it sounds. he's from Ohio) then there's another block off elsewheres.

Hmmmmmm.. What to do about the remaining delegates? If we were to promise something on K Street to the drop out with over 100 delegates, we could keep them snarled.

And let the delegates vote their brains out for two or three days.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:59 AM (326rv)

442 But for that to happen, the front runner would need to be hindered as much as possible.

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Again, I don't think it is likely that we would reach that point, but it is within the realm of possibility. At some point if there is just a deadlock, you have to look for some solution. Would that be Kasich - I doubt it. Ryan - probably not (why would he even want it). Walker - he could prove acceptable to most of the delegates.

My real point though is that most of the delegates are rank and file guys and not really GOPe. Some are to be sure. But the GOPe will have less influence than both Trump and Cruz. Either of whom could likely play kingmaker - though it may mean making someone else king.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 11:03 AM (gmeXX)

443 Either Trump will prove to be a great negotiator, or Cruz will prove to be a superior politician. One of those should be able to cobble up a majority.
Posted by: SH

1. Trump has shown his true colors. He's used to getting important people to deal with him. He's used to lower class people being happy to meet him.That doesn't lend itself well to gaining the necessary influence over delegates from 50 state organizations and the territories.
2. The GOP openly attacked him, and has continued to do so. This has two likely effects;
A. people who didn't decide to go for him aren't likely to change their vote to him.
B. People who did are feeling more and more like they are in a fight and less likely to change.
3. Cruz is still viable, and he has better political skills.
But the Party has shown great antipathy toward him, and has passed on several opportunities to promote him as the 'nottrump'.

All of this gives strength to the campaign of Someone Else, from the great state of WhoinHell knows.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 11:06 AM (326rv)

444 But the Party has shown great antipathy toward him, and has passed on several opportunities to promote him as the 'nottrump'.

All of this gives strength to the campaign of Someone Else, from the great state of WhoinHell knows.

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Depends on who you mean by the party? The voters have shown him love if not that most love. Though he seems to be for many Trump fans a plausible (and perhaps their only) second choice. The DC party representatives do not like them, but as I have argued, they will not control the convention.

So far from what we have heard about Cruz and his delegate hunting - he is well organized and understands the rules better than anyone. And he may be the closest to those local party activists who will actually be delegates. Its why I think if it gets to a contested convention, Cruz would be the favorite.

I just leave open the possibility of another result.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 11:11 AM (gmeXX)

445 Hmmmmmm.. What to do about the remaining delegates?
If we were to promise something on K Street to the drop out with over
100 delegates, we could keep them snarled.

And let the delegates vote their brains out for two or three days.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 07, 2016 10:59 AM (326rv)

Delegates of candidates who suspended or dropped out are unbound.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 11:17 AM (nUJM6)

446 So far from what we have heard about Cruz and his
delegate hunting - he is well organized and understands the rules better
than anyone. And he may be the closest to those local party activists
who will actually be delegates. Its why I think if it gets to a
contested convention, Cruz would be the favorite.

I just leave open the possibility of another result.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 11:11 AM (gmeXX)

Cause, as I said above, we live in a quantum world.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 07, 2016 11:19 AM (nUJM6)

447 "Thomas," said Sir Topham Hatt, "You are a very useful racist!"

Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2016 11:24 AM (2mC6G)

448 The Trump fans won't like this but if (and when) this gets to a contested convention - how will Cruz be denied the nomination when George Bush comes out to support him - which I suspect he would. NR is fully on board. Part of the Bush family is involved. Its only a matter of time before W says Cruz should be the nominee. Frankly, I find it hard to believe that many delegates (other than those who may be pledged to Trump) do not like W. Whether you like his policies or not, or think he is all that wrong with GOP, most GOP activists like and respect the man.

Unless Trump gets to a majority, I think it is all but over and Cruz will be the nominee.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 11:33 AM (gmeXX)

449 Unless Trump gets to a majority, I think it is all but over and Cruz will be the nominee.

Posted by: SH at April 07, 2016 11:33 AM (gmeXX)

Cruz or lose, baby!!

Posted by: Ted Cruz at April 07, 2016 04:42 PM (aRUb8)

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