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Tuesday Morning News Dump (3/22/16) [Misanthropic Humanitarian]

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:24 AM




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1 Guess everyone is still in the EMT.

Posted by: Taiwan_joe at March 22, 2016 07:23 AM (sy8f2)

2 There was a little terrorist attack in Brussels.

Posted by: Pastorius at March 22, 2016 07:24 AM (gMAUH)

3 Cool, I have gotten a hold of the time machine. Becareful y'all

Posted by: Taiwan_joe at March 22, 2016 07:24 AM (sy8f2)

4 If everyone would just get on Twitter and tell ISIS what assholes they are they would lay down their weapons.

Posted by: John Oliver at March 22, 2016 07:25 AM (LYCUN)

5 *saunters in

**tosses caltrops all along the floor for the late arrivals

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:26 AM (/D5Lf)

6 Kaboom!

Posted by: DM at March 22, 2016 07:26 AM (j/tOh)

7 Idle thought: It only took three and a half hours for Belgian federal prosecutor Frederic Van Leeuw to call this a terrorist attack.


Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 22, 2016 07:27 AM (eytER)

8 In before chemjeff takes another steaming dump on the thread.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:28 AM (HA9zO)

9 Majority of Americans want to retain Gitmo
----

That pretty much seals it. It will be given back.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:28 AM (/D5Lf)

10 Obama is going to give Guantanamo back to Cuba.I'd call it a fair trade if they would take him as well.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2016 07:28 AM (B48dK)

11 BRB, applying for World of Beer job.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 22, 2016 07:28 AM (d1RNN)

12 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (HA9zO)

13 The Brussels Jihadist attacks are Donald Trump's fault.

Posted by: Pastorius at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (gMAUH)

14 What an embarrassment
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I don't think that asshole has ever shown as much reverence for anything American as he has been doing with everything Cuban. What a commie cocksucker.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:31 AM (/D5Lf)

15 12 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (HA9zO)

Wall off Dearborn and make the mosques pay for the wall.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:31 AM (/D5Lf)

16 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?



Catalina?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:31 AM (6oPFc)

17 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?
Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (HA9zO)


Gitmo is a lot more than a Prison. That is only a small part of Gitmo. It is a very valuable Naval/Marine/Joint Base

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 07:32 AM (mw8Dm)

18 If Apple's lawyers advised management that it looked like they were going to lose the suit and would be forced to cooperate with the fed, a smart move would be to establish a secret "third party" entity that amazingly has the technology to crack the encryption.

That way, Apple stood firm for privacy, the fed gets what it wants and everyone is pissed at some unknown company that will fade away.

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 07:34 AM (Zs4uk)

19 We can learn from Cuba!

People in prison camps are safe from Arab terror.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 22, 2016 07:34 AM (EZebt)

20 Alternative to Gitmo= California
Posted by: gonzotx at March 22, 2016 07:34 AM (eV1YV)

Wrong Coast, Wrong Ocean, Wrong Fleet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 07:35 AM (mw8Dm)

21 The Belgians need to be careful about large concentrations of first responders. I'll bet they're swarming the airport and subway now. But if you remember, the San Bernardino shooters drove around for hours trying to get bombs meant for the first responders to detonate. If ISIS is propagating this tactic then there could be follow-on attacks targeting the first responders. This could be bad if there are a lot in any one place.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:35 AM (SEFXb)

22 *quietly being thankful that my good friend was running late this morning and not at her metro station when it went splodey*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 22, 2016 07:35 AM (bzd8I)

23

Greetings Hordelings.

Another day, another load of fresh hell.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 07:36 AM (LUgeY)

24 The U.S. Embassy in Brussels is recommending that Americans in Belgium stay where they are and avoid public transportation.The embassy noted Tuesday that with the threat rating in Brussels at its highest alert, attacks can take place with little or no notice. It urged U.S. citizens to monitor media reports, follow instructions from the authorities, and "take the appropriate steps to bolster your personal security, inshall'ah".


Yeah, I might have added a word in that last sentence.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 07:36 AM (fbovC)

25 Gitmo is a lot more than a Prison. That is only a small part of Gitmo. It is a very valuable Naval/Marine/Joint Base

Yes. But we survived the closing of Subic Bay and will likely be able to locate new strategic facilities.

I am more worried about TFG bringing the terrorists into the US for trials that should (in a sane universe) only be accorded to citizens.

Posted by: the vein in chemjeff's forehead at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (HA9zO)

26 Yes Castro wants GITMO and we all wait in suspense to see if Obama will illegally give it to him since there is no opposition Party.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (t2KH5)

27 Can you say anything good about anyone without being labeled a "bot"??

Asking for myself because the rules seem to change all the time.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (WVsWD)

28 I'm glad with Obama at the helm there is no chance like that Brussels attack happening here.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (LXJ1e)

29 >>>In before chemjeff takes another steaming dump on the thread.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:28 AM (HA9zO)

***

I recommend not taking the bait.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (bpn7O)

30 Alternative to Gitmo - Alcatraz?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (JO9+V)

31 The real victim of this morning's attacks. Of course.
https://twitter.com/NathanWurtzel/status/712254895991209989

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (d1RNN)

32 /whumpa sock off

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (HA9zO)

33 If Barack Obama wanted to salvage his legacy he'd have the Clintons indicted before he left office.

I'd be willing to forgive him of all of his other immature failings if only he made the effort to ensure that the Clintons end up federal prison.

Posted by: Fritz at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (UzPAd)

34 12 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (HA9zO)

Puerto Rico. It's not like the Puerto Ricans are doing anything with it.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:38 AM (mBYZv)

35 In before the contrarian.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 22, 2016 07:38 AM (Vaz6g)

36 30 Can you say anything good about anyone without being labeled a "bot"??

Asking for myself because the rules seem to change all the time.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (WVsWD)

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Nope Trumpbot.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 07:39 AM (LXJ1e)

37 Another day, another load of fresh hell.


#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 07:36 AM


Wait...you got fresh hell?

Did you bring enough for everybody?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 22, 2016 07:39 AM (bzd8I)

38 The west is actively murdering itself over a failed theory of multiculturalism, similar to the Neo-con fantasy of democratizing the Middle East.

Our problem is no longer radical Islam per se, the elites of the western world have now become the existential threat to our very existence.

As we have seen, voting is not going to get us out of our predicament the only thing that is going to make them pay attention and possibly change the trajectory is extreme violence.

For a historical analogue see, Revolution, The American.

Posted by: Kreplach at March 22, 2016 07:39 AM (Vaz6g)

39 Morning Tim-bot!

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (HA9zO)

40 Gitmo is a lot more than a Prison. That is only a small part of Gitmo. It is a very valuable Naval/Marine/Joint Base

Yes. But we survived the closing of Subic Bay and will likely be able to locate new strategic facilities.

I am more worried about TFG bringing the terrorists into the US for trials that should (in a sane universe) only be accorded to citizens.



How about Diego Garcia?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (6oPFc)

41 So Amazon has ended its associates programs in LA due to money hungry politicians wanting more taxes. Why didn't they do that in SC? They are now collecting sales tax from me.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (t2KH5)

42 The last thing obummer wants is for a donktard like hillary following him as president.

Lots of lost tv time saying " I would not have done that" and you think he wants hillary taking any credit for anything he may have done that turned out decently?

Hell no.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (WVsWD)

43 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

----------------------------

Yes, its called hanging until dead. Or executed on the field of battle.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (LXJ1e)

44 Trump is on PMSNBC pointing out that we need to waterboard the asshole that they caught earlier in Belgium.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (kXzR8)

45 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?



Something that we could turn into another island super-max?



Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (HA9zO)


Those South Pacific islands what got nuked?

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 22, 2016 07:41 AM (JO9+V)

46 Thanks for the anniversary gift ideas yall. I'm off to the platnium mines.

Posted by: freaked at March 22, 2016 07:41 AM (BO/km)

47 34
The real victim of this morning's attacks. Of course.
https://twitter.com/NathanWurtzel/status/712254895991209989


Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose



And don't forget the silent majority of Muslims who completely, silently reject the actions of the terrorist Muslims. silently.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:41 AM (HA9zO)

48 I'm glad with Obama at the helm there is no chance like that Brussels attack happening here.

Obama is pretty sure we can 'absorb' a few terror attacks.

after all, more people are killed by car accidents each year, so what are we getting all wee-weed up about ?

Posted by: McCool at March 22, 2016 07:42 AM (nCSwS)

49 The west is actively murdering itself over a failed theory of multiculturalism, similar to the Neo-con fantasy of democratizing the Middle East.

Our problem is no longer radical Islam per se, the elites of the western world have now become the existential threat to our very existence.

As we have seen, voting is not going to get us out of our predicament the only thing that is going to make them pay attention and possibly change the trajectory is extreme violence.

For a historical analogue see, Revolution, The American.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 22, 2016 07:39 AM (Vaz6g)

----------------------

I disagree, a massive instance of civil disobedience with one goal would work.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 07:42 AM (LXJ1e)

50 "12 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?"

Where do you want your island?

Posted by: China at March 22, 2016 07:42 AM (Dttnn)

51 Drats. Foiled again.

Might as well start up with my lame Cruz jokes again,
eh?

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 07:42 AM (WVsWD)

52 Those South Pacific islands what got nuked?




Bikini Atoll?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:43 AM (6oPFc)

53 Nevergiveup=WRONG
Posted by: gonzotx at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (eV1YV)

yeah? About what pray tell?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 07:43 AM (mw8Dm)

54 President Obama's failure bracket

Well done! I thought it was just going to be his record of choosing losers. Well, I guess it was.

Posted by: t-bird at March 22, 2016 07:43 AM (yddCj)

55 I am more worried about TFG bringing the terrorists into the US for trials that should (in a sane universe) only be accorded to citizens.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (6oPFc)
=========
With the defendants you get all their terrorist families and friends moving into near by communities.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 07:43 AM (iQIUe)

56 If Ted Cruz is elected President, long thin strips of Bacon will now be called "American Bacon". Small circular cuts of Pork Loin will now be called "Bacon"

Do you really want that to happen?

Trump 2016

#nevercruz

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 07:44 AM (WVsWD)

57 The real victim of this morning's attacks. Of course.

All those peaceful Muzzies who are now dreading the imminent backlash ?

Posted by: McCool at March 22, 2016 07:44 AM (nCSwS)

58 >>>And don't forget the silent majority of Muslims who completely, silently reject the actions of the terrorist Muslims. silently.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:41 AM (HA9zO)

***

Heh. Until hit with Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 07:44 AM (bpn7O)

59 Morning, all.

Posted by: Mainah at March 22, 2016 07:44 AM (659DL)

60 If Ted Cruz is elected President, the U.S. goober'mint
will start paying reperations.

To the Torries.

Do you really want that to happen?

Trump 2016

#nevercruz

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 07:45 AM (WVsWD)

61 33
Alternative to Gitmo - Alcatraz?


Posted by: Count de Monet at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (JO9+V)


It is now a museum and major tourist attraction

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 22, 2016 07:45 AM (t2KH5)

62 With the defendants you get all their terrorist families and friends moving into near by communities.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 07:43 AM (iQIUe)

------------------------------

Maybe with Obama, Hillary, Cruz and Kasich. But with Trump they get an AC-130 gunship over their house.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 07:46 AM (LXJ1e)

63

Yes, its called hanging until dead. Or executed on the field of battle.

Which would be perfectly legal under the Geneva Conventions.

The best thing would be to have a group of interrogators go all Jack Bauer on their asses then PPV the executions.

Of course, the effetes in power would never allow that, since an ongoing worldwide war gives them more power. The last thing they want is peace.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 07:46 AM (LUgeY)

64 With the defendants you get all their terrorist families and friends moving into near by communities.



Iirc, the entire island of Diego Garcia is a military base. No civilian housing within a 1,000 miles.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:46 AM (6oPFc)

65 As arms and legs get scooped up in Belgium, the Democrats and Establishment Republicans continue to flood this country with the same people responsible for the mass murders.

Vote Trump. Dump the neocons.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 07:46 AM (PcMP6)

66 Morning Horde. We all still alive?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 22, 2016 07:47 AM (KUaJL)

67 Iirc, the entire island of Diego Garcia is a military base. No civilian housing within a 1,000 miles.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:46 AM (6oPFc)


yeah, the dreaded "Unaccompanied" Orders

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 07:48 AM (mw8Dm)

68 48 Trump is on PMSNBC pointing out that we need to waterboard the asshole that they caught earlier in Belgium.
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (kXzR

On this, the Donald and I can agree. Import some Third World sociopaths and have them do the deed if Americans are squeamish about it. Call it Aggressive Nasal Cleansing Procedures if that makes you feel better.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:48 AM (ZKlDy)

69
Nathan Wurtzel
Folks in DC waiting for any guidance at all concerning terror threats.
==========
Take care of yourselves like the rest of the country does.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 07:48 AM (iQIUe)

70

Yes, its called hanging until dead. Or executed on the field of battle.

I am good with this.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:49 AM (HA9zO)

71 On this, the Donald and I can agree. Import some Third World sociopaths and have them do the deed if Americans are squeamish about it. Call it Aggressive Nasal Cleansing Procedures if that makes you feel better.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:48 AM (ZKlDy)

If Fredo had not allianated Egypt, they are good at that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 07:49 AM (mw8Dm)

72 It is now a museum and major tourist attraction


Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 22, 2016 07:45 AM (t2KH5)

Pull out the kiosks and candy bar / soft drink machines. Let the sharks do their patrolling.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 22, 2016 07:50 AM (JO9+V)

73
Wait...you got fresh hell?

Did you bring enough for everybody?


Yep. The semi will be pulling up to the loading dock momentarily.

Get it while it's hot.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 07:50 AM (LUgeY)

74 Nathan Wurtzel
Folks in DC waiting for any guidance at all concerning terror threats.
-----------

Huh?

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:50 AM (/D5Lf)

75 American Airlines denies bombing took place in their area in weak fashion...


"At this time, all of our airport employees and crew members are safe and accounted for with no reported injuries.  American Airlines check-in operates at Row 8 of the departure hall, and the explosions did not occur at Row 8."

Apparently their stock is already taking a dump.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 07:51 AM (fbovC)

76 Kurdish news sources say ISIS has claimed responsibility for the Brussels attack.

WND:
http://tinyurl.com/hvcmocn

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at March 22, 2016 07:51 AM (Dttnn)

77 Death Toll up to 34

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 07:51 AM (mw8Dm)

78 **tosses caltrops all along the floor for the late arrivals
Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:26 AM


Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

Posted by: Han Solo at March 22, 2016 07:51 AM (sOhww)

79 I hope the Brit's are paying attention.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 22, 2016 07:51 AM (Rc1a4)

80 78 Nathan Wurtzel
Folks in DC waiting for any guidance at all concerning terror threats.
-----------

Huh?
Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:50 AM (/D5Lf)

I think he means awaiting word from Barky, who is probably too busy fellating el Jefe right now to bother with the whole presidency thing.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:52 AM (ZKlDy)

81 >>>Iirc, the entire island of Diego Garcia is a military base. No civilian housing within a 1,000 miles.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:46 AM (6oPFc)

***

That would be hilarious.

That said, I'd prefer we keep GITMO. It's handy for more than warehousing terrorists.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 07:52 AM (bpn7O)

82 On this, the Donald and I can agree. Import some Third World sociopaths and have them do the deed if Americans are squeamish about it. Call it Aggressive Nasal Cleansing Procedures if that makes you feel better.



Give me complete, total immunity for up to AND including death, and I'll happily make waterboard the terr until he thinks he's Nemo.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 07:52 AM (6oPFc)

83 And don't forget the silent majority of Muslims who completely, silently reject the actions of the terrorist Muslims. silently.
==============

They just haven't "self radicalized" yet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 22, 2016 07:52 AM (EZebt)

84 Ok, so it was Nathan tweeting.

Umm, no. Not waiting for guidance by the assholes in DC.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:52 AM (/D5Lf)

85 I hope the Brit's are paying attention.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 22, 2016 07:51 AM (Rc1a4)


Well this should be the nail in the coffin of that EU vote. The Brits will soon be pulling out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 07:53 AM (mw8Dm)

86 83 I hope the Brit's are paying attention.
Posted by: Ben Had at March 22, 2016 07:51 AM (Rc1a4)

Somebody on the EMT said that Heathrow is crawling with security.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:53 AM (ZKlDy)

87 How about a wall around Rhode Island.

That's definitely an island, right? It says so in the name.

...and it's just a little bitty place, no one will ever miss it.

Posted by: Petah Griffin at March 22, 2016 07:54 AM (SjtTh)

88

Somebody on the EMT said that Heathrow is crawling with security.

I'm so old I can remember when the goatfux would just hijack a plane.

*sigh* I miss the old days...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 07:55 AM (LUgeY)

89 I think he means awaiting word from Barky, who is probably too busy fellating el Jefe right now to bother with the whole presidency thing.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:52 AM (ZKlDy)

Yep. He ended the tweet "Do we have a President?"

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:56 AM (/D5Lf)

90 Interesting how the center of Euro government is also a nest of terrorism.

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 07:57 AM (iynDC)

91 And Drudge has become basically useless as a news source.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 07:57 AM (ZKlDy)

92 Is Michelle Fields ok?

Posted by: rerun at March 22, 2016 07:57 AM (SOVQ8)

93 Nathan Wurtzel

Folks in DC waiting for any guidance at all concerning terror threats.

==========

Take care of yourselves like the rest of the country does.
------------------
Time to shelter in place until Vox can provide further instructions. Also, avoid baristas at all costs.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 22, 2016 07:58 AM (kXzR8)

94 And Drudge has become basically useless as a news source.

What do you mean? He appears to be all over the story...

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 07:58 AM (iynDC)

95 12:52: Hezbollah, a Lebanese militant group, responded to the attacks in Brussels, saying Europe was being burnt by 'fire' from the Middle East.

'The fire that Europe in particular and the world in general is being burnt by is the same one that some regimes ignited in Syria and other states in the region,' Hezbollah said in a statement.
----

That's a bombing

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 07:58 AM (/D5Lf)

96 There are no rules! Cackle, Cackle, grunt, cackle, fart,,,hic.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 22, 2016 07:58 AM (cehcY)

97 The elites in europe know the little multiculti experiment is a total failure. The question is how many will have to die before they will admit it... oh, They will eventually admit it is wrong... it's only the number of dead that is in question

Posted by: E.T. at March 22, 2016 07:59 AM (yq4gk)

98 If only there were some common thread, some shared belief ... any unifying factor amongst all these bombers. The smallest thing would be helpful.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 08:00 AM (zfvHs)

99 When the SCOAMF visits the UK next month, where's he planning on landing? Heathrow?

If he does that, and takes tea with QE2 at Windsor, central London will be spared massive headaches.

If he heads into town, on the other hand, well, best avoid London that day.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:00 AM (bpn7O)

100 #ikwilhelpen #openhouse #porteouverte

Just be safe.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:00 AM (/D5Lf)

101 How about Martha's Vineyard?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 22, 2016 08:01 AM (k9lXi)

102 98 And Drudge has become basically useless as a news source.

What do you mean? He appears to be all over the story...
Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 07:58 AM (iynDC)

My bad, I forgot to refresh. Still, he's not what he once was.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:01 AM (ZKlDy)

103 Is Michelle Fields ok?

Posted by: rerun at March 22, 2016 07:57 AM (SOVQ

Still waiting to have her arm reattached. Last I heard.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 08:02 AM (WVsWD)

104 I'm looking forward to seeing the results of Finland's experiment. It might soar, or crash and burn, but at least it's something different than the ongoing accumulation of new social programs.

Posted by: Son of Mindful at March 22, 2016 08:03 AM (PhANA)

105 108 I'm looking forward to seeing the results of Finland's experiment. It might soar, or crash and burn, but at least it's something different than the ongoing accumulation of new social programs.
Posted by: Son of Mindful at March 22, 2016 08:03 AM (PhANA)

It's pretty exciting. I've been advocating this for years. Anything that cuts down the bureaucracy and avoids the welfare trap should be supported.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:04 AM (ZKlDy)

106 When the SCOAMF visits the UK next month, where's he planning on landing? Heathrow?

If he does that, and takes tea with QE2 at Windsor, central London will be spared massive headaches.

If he heads into town, on the other hand, well, best avoid London that day.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:00 AM


the way I heard it yesterday, the Queen is making him go to Windsor; she's not going to London

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 22, 2016 08:05 AM (ZQfW9)

107

The elites in europe know the little multiculti experiment is a total failure. The question is how many will have to die before they will admit it... oh, They will eventually admit it is wrong... it's only the number of dead that is in question

They know it's a failure all right, but they'll never admit to it. Merkel is still in denial as the invasion continues unabated.

It gives them the excuse to clamp down on their own people. Notice who's being punished: it's not the muzperps, it's the innocent citizens who dare speak out about all the crime being forced on them.

You know they've beefed up their own personal security, so they're safe. The rest of the proles get more invasive surveillance and an erosion of their right to live in peace, which hasn't stopped the attacks.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 08:05 AM (LUgeY)

108 Still waiting to have her arm reattached. Last I heard.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 08:02 AM


Don't believe it. It was only a flesh wound.

Posted by: Some knight at March 22, 2016 08:05 AM (bzd8I)

109 At the airport, there were reports of a firefight between police and the attackers who shouted in Arabic moments before detonating their bombs. A Kalashnikov was later recovered from the scene.

The blasts, which detonated near the American Airlines and Brussels airlines check-in desks, sent shockwaves through the terminal building, shattering windows and knocking roof tiles off the ceiling as terrified passengers ran for their lives.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 08:06 AM (fbovC)

110 113 At the airport, there were reports of a firefight between police and the attackers who shouted in Arabic moments before detonating their bombs. A Kalashnikov was later recovered from the scene.

The blasts, which detonated near the American Airlines and Brussels airlines check-in desks, sent shockwaves through the terminal building, shattering windows and knocking roof tiles off the ceiling as terrified passengers ran for their lives.
Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 08:06 AM (fbovC)

How do you even get in the door with enough explosives to do that?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:08 AM (ZKlDy)

111 Here's something that awful racist Trump did yesterday:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-

races/273776-trump-offers-job-to-woman-at-dc-news-

conference

(remove extra spaces)


Fortunately, anti-Trump protesters showed that mean old fascist what it really means to be an American:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/disgustin

g-hundreds-of-anti-trump-protesters-taunt-jews-at-

aipac-with-nazi___ry/

(remove extra spaces)


with their glorious open and free-thinking #NeverTrump minds:

http://injo.com/2016/03/565714-colorado-trump-ban/


Ah, how good it is to know, that the eeeeevvviiillll racist fascisty meany Trump can't fool the super-smart #NeverTrumpoids!


Good job! Good job indeed>

Posted by: naturalfake at March 22, 2016 08:09 AM (2rmvw)

112 That story about the antibiotic resistant bacteria is interesting, and I didn't read the entire thing so maybe this is addressed near the end, but does anyone have an explanation as to why the bacteria simply won't become resistant to the new drugs that target the proton pumps?

I mean, that's how drug resistance currently works...you give the bacteria some drug that pokes a hole in the cell wall, or the cell membrane, or interferes with its metabolism in some way and causes it to die. Some bacteria though, have a slightly different cell wall/membrane/metabolic step that causes the drug to not work...viola, antibiotic resistance.

You create a class of drugs to attack the pumps and you're going to have the exact same situation.

Posted by: GMan at March 22, 2016 08:09 AM (sxq57)

113 What's interesting to me is that the "you guys are totally rayciss anti-Muslim rayciss haters" crew are COMPLETELY ignoring the fact that this is all occuring in a country that opened it's doors wide to provide humanitarian aid to thousands of mostly Muslim refugees.


In other words "let's don't indict the many for the actions of the few" is ALREADY being done.

Could it possibly be time to try something else?

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 08:10 AM (HA9zO)

114 "How do you even get in the door with enough explosives to do that?"


The area hit was outside security. Just walk in the front door with bags, suitcases, full of stuff.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 22, 2016 08:10 AM (i9Cjp)

115 joncelli ... You could do it here. Just pack the shit in a suitcase.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 08:10 AM (zfvHs)

116 the world is on fire and our leader is in a commie country....

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 22, 2016 08:10 AM (0O7c5)

117 wish the fbi was as tenacious at going after hildebeast as they are at going after apple. useless turds.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 22, 2016 08:10 AM (ucDmr)

118 How do you even get in the door with enough explosives to do that?




If you are using the front door, you're doing it wrong.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 08:10 AM (6oPFc)

119 >>You know they've beefed up their own personal security, so they're safe.
The rest of the proles get more invasive surveillance and an erosion of
their right to live in peace, which hasn't stopped the attacks.


Hmm. Makes me appreciate "London is Fallen" even more.

Yeah, at least this they hit near the EU people who have been insisting on open borders/open immigration from the ME/N Africa crowd. Maybe the inconvenience of not being able to take the subway to work will finally get them angry enough to reconsider....

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 08:11 AM (NOIQH)

120 Great minds think alike Ricardo.

Apparently ... So do ours.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 08:11 AM (zfvHs)

121 #nevertrumptrash to blame Brussels attack on Donald's call to suspend Muslim immigration to the United States. Ten, nine, eight, seven.....

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 08:11 AM (PcMP6)

122 How do you even get in the door with enough explosives to do that?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:08 AM (ZKlDy)


There are no security checkpoints until after check-in.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at March 22, 2016 08:12 AM (d7wFx)

123 uh oh...on wz. Nuclear plant being evacuated in belgium.

Posted by: E.T. at March 22, 2016 08:12 AM (yq4gk)

124 Should be interesting to see the nationalities of the dead and wounded in Brussels. I suspect many Americans. Who Barky will ignore. Because Crusades.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 08:13 AM (fbovC)

125 Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 07:57 AM (iynDC)

It was sort of funny reading a 100 year old mystery where the Brit detective was complaining about how easy it was for criminals to get guns in Belgium. Guess things really do never change.

Also, Paris ringleader *said* he had other attacks planned, looks like he wasn't just flapping his gums.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 22, 2016 08:13 AM (GDulk)

126 >>the world is on fire and our leader is in a commie country....


Isn't that really the story of Obama?

Was thinking the same thing --- and realized he usually is. It's because when he's not vacationing, he's on a road trip (fund raisers, golf weekend, etc.) as much as he's in the office.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 08:13 AM (NOIQH)

127

Michael Chertoff should be shunned

he is saying suspending muslim immigration is preposterous


he says we do a better job of assimilating muslims than europe

he says muslims feel they have no future in europe

he is wrong on all counts.

our only advantage is geography. We have less muslims, we are harder to get to. We are farther from Africa and the ME than Europe

muslims have hope for their future in Europe. But its a future where Europe is finally muslim

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:14 AM (zOTsN)

128 interesting times indeed.

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 08:15 AM (MQEz6)

129 126 How do you even get in the door with enough explosives to do that?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:08 AM (ZKlDy)


Have you seen the suitcases the "refugee class" have? My first apartment was smaller.

I don't know where they buy these things, but you could put enough explosives in them to take out Cleveland.

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 08:15 AM (Zs4uk)

130 The area hit was outside security. Just walk in the front door with bags, suitcases, full of stuff.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 22, 2016 08:10 AM (i9Cjp)

Not in Tel Aviv

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:15 AM (mw8Dm)

131 Glen Beck and John Kasich should create their own religions and leave Christian morality to the free will of believers.

Scientology is taken but I think they could claim Beckology and Kasichology respectively.

Posted by: scorecard at March 22, 2016 08:16 AM (Bbcs8)

132 >>If he does that, and takes tea with QE2 at Windsor

at which event we can expect Obama to give her the DVD box set of "Downton Abbey" and a framed picture of him smoking a cigarette in college.

#class

Posted by: General Zod at March 22, 2016 08:17 AM (Bdeb0)

133 So, TSA is moving to the parking lot?

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 08:17 AM (MQEz6)

134 72 48 Trump is on PMSNBC pointing out that we need to waterboard the asshole that they caught earlier in Belgium.
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 22, 2016 07:40 AM (kXzR

On this, the Donald and I can agree. Import some Third World sociopaths and have them do the deed if Americans are squeamish about it. Call it Aggressive Nasal Cleansing Procedures if that makes you feel better.


I think those guys use cordless drills.

Posted by: FireNWater at March 22, 2016 08:17 AM (cCDP3)

135

Could it possibly be time to try something else?

It's cute that you think the EU leaders are interested in their fellow citizens' welfare or preserving their countries.

The only thing they care about is power. In that respect, they are no better than the muzzies. As long as they get to order their people around from behind their personal security force, they're good. And their disastrous, bloody policies will never be reversed.

They are dangerously sick excuses for human beings.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 08:18 AM (LUgeY)

136 >>>the way I heard it yesterday, the Queen is making him go to Windsor; she's not going to London

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 22, 2016 08:05 AM (ZQfW9)

***

I read that too. Today, however, I hear he intends to make some sort of speech, encouraging the UK to stay in the EU. I was wondering where he might make such a speech. I can't imagine he'd be invited to Westminster. But if he is, traffic nightmare.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:18 AM (bpn7O)

137 I suggest we blow them up over there, instead of allowing them to blow themselves up over here.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 08:18 AM (Qvgg/)

138 Oh, FFS NGU. We don't give a damn how they do airport security in Tel Aviv.

Those people are friggin' SHAPESHIFTERS !!! Exactly how in the hell do you expect us to do security like they do ? The fuckin' trash can next to the door could be a joo for all we know.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 08:19 AM (zfvHs)

139
The Brussels Jihadist attacks are Donald Trump's fault.

Posted by: Pastorius at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (gMAUH)
_________________________

I know right?

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 22, 2016 08:19 AM (HSmrB)

140 Hey here's a pleasant thought. That asshole PM to the North of us Trudeau is very european and loves him some muzzies. And out Northern Border is wide open

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (mw8Dm)

141 140 >>>the way I heard it yesterday, the Queen is making him go to Windsor; she's not going to London

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 22, 2016 08:05 AM (ZQfW9)

***

I read that too. Today, however, I hear he intends to make some sort of speech, encouraging the UK to stay in the EU. I was wondering where he might make such a speech. I can't imagine he'd be invited to Westminster. But if he is, traffic nightmare.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:18 AM (bpn7O)

Wow, what a boon for Brexit! The reverse Midas touch hardly ever fails.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (ZKlDy)

142 I heard the Queen supports Brexit. So Obozo going there and shilling against it seems to be in poor taste.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (iQIUe)

143
Fox had on Michael Chertoff, a Bush admin loser, talk stupidly about how to prevent jihadism.

And then Fox just now had on KT McFarland who spoke the truth about the Islamic menace plaguing the West and what to do about it.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (o2321)

144 events ace dear boy, events.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (nFwvY)

145 Is nuking Mecca looking less and less out of bounds?

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (MQEz6)

146

they blew their suitcases up at the american airlines counter

they must find the bomb maker

they b;ew the train up between stations so people would be stuck in the tunnel

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (zOTsN)

147 >>Aggressive Nasal Cleansing Procedures

Neti-boarding.

Posted by: General Zod at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (Bdeb0)

148 Shit. My daughter, mom and me will be heading to London this Thursday; these suicide bombings are addingn another layer on anxiety on what is supposed to be a happy trip. Now I'm going to be hypervigipabt and anxious the entire the time. ISIS bastards. I hope they all rot in hell with maggots eating slowly at their penises.

Posted by: IC at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (zK6nG)

149

we do not do a better job of assimilation


we just have less of them

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:21 AM (zOTsN)

150

its a cultural conceit to think we can do a better job of assimilation

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:21 AM (zOTsN)

151 "Michael Chertoff should be shunned"

Chertoff is typical neoconservative trash that has forced us to accept Trump as a possible buffer against our annihilation. Chertoff and the Democrat/Establishment GOP toadies now will call for more Muslim immigration to the United States, along with a grand little war somewhere in the fly-infested sewer of the Middle East. It's science, y'all.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 08:22 AM (PcMP6)

152
These arent anti Trump protesters. At least identifying them as anti trump is a step up but:

they are not protesters but criminals and thugs
they are democrats but better to refer to them as Hillary's thugs

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:22 AM (iQIUe)

153 A regular at my home blog speculated that maybe, since they caught the guy who chickened out of a suicide bombing, the terrorists decided to go ahead with a previous bomb plot before he could sing about it to the police.

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 08:22 AM (cbfNE)

154 Hey ...

... enough with the "eating maggots" shit, okay ?

Posted by: Penis Local #327 at March 22, 2016 08:23 AM (zfvHs)

155 ...Merkel is still in denial ...

Why isn't Merkel investigated as a Manchurian Candidate from the USSR?

The commie threats from the fifties and sixties are playing out in the 2000's 2010's.

Posted by: scorecard at March 22, 2016 08:23 AM (Bbcs8)

156 Chertoff is typical neoconservative trash that has forced us to accept Trump as a possible buffer against our annihilation. Chertoff and the Democrat/Establishment GOP toadies now will call for more Muslim immigration to the United States, along with a grand little war somewhere in the fly-infested sewer of the Middle East. It's science, y'all.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 08:22 AM (PcMP6)

Your either a comedian or seriously confused

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:23 AM (mw8Dm)

157 When isis members are hiding in their basements in fear of imminent death, they won't have the inclination to plan and carry out attacks.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 08:23 AM (Qvgg/)

158
#JeSuisTiredOfThisShit

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:23 AM (iQIUe)

159

no body fears us

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:24 AM (zOTsN)

160 146 I heard the Queen supports Brexit. So Obozo going there and shilling against it seems to be in poor taste.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (iQIUe)

--

I always liked the old lady. Long live the Queen!
Don't let wacky Charles sit on the throne.

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 08:24 AM (cbfNE)

161 at which event we can expect Obama to give her the
DVD box set of "Downton Abbey" and a framed picture of him smoking a
cigarette in college.



#class

Posted by: General Zod at March 22, 2016 08:17 AM


Which will undoubtedly be in the wrong DVD format.

Posted by: Some knight at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (bzd8I)

162 Those who are pro-gun, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, pro-life, and enjoy fantasy football have no place in the state of New York!

Posted by: Andrew Cuomo at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (fVOPU)

163

we MUST profile

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (zOTsN)

164 >>>I heard the Queen supports Brexit. So Obozo going there and shilling against it seems to be in poor taste.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (iQIUe)

***

I sense you're making a point, but I can't imagine what it might be.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (bpn7O)

165 Merkel should be indicted as a co conspirator

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (cbfNE)

166 Off, armored sock!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (bzd8I)

167 It's kinda interesting, Trump did an interview yesterday where he sounded completely paleoconservative, yet yesterday at AIPAC sounded completely supportive of Israel.


Which aligns almost completely with my POV.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (fbovC)

168

Is nuking Mecca looking less and less out of bounds?

I wonder why Hezbollah's HQ is still standing.

There is a way to stop this.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 08:26 AM (LUgeY)

169 we do not do a better job of assimilation
we just have less of them
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:21 AM (zOTsN)

Yeah, no kidding. A drive through Dearborn should be enlightening on the whole assimilation question.

Posted by: Mainah at March 22, 2016 08:26 AM (659DL)

170 ya know what's fucked up?

I feel safer in Kurdistan than I would in Europe

Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 08:26 AM (NyVz8)

171
Chertoff's solutions are:

1. open borders but with security checks
2. perpetual war in the middle east
...

3. Denounce Trump's ideas as preposterous and bigoted as pieces of Westerners are being scraped up from the pavement


Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:26 AM (o2321)

172

by all means

lets import more of this

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:26 AM (zOTsN)

173 "Could it possibly be time to try something else? "


What would happen if a European Trump came out of the blue?

If the leader of Belgium suddenly sent the troops in and exiled all Muslims in one week, just picked them up, put them on planes and dropped them off in North Africa, what would the backlash be?

Sure, everyone would say what a terrible Nazi he was, but if he called for an immediate election, would he win by 90 or 95%?

Would the other countries in Europe try to adopt him as their king?

Interesting times...

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (Zs4uk)

174 "Your either a comedian or seriously confused"

I have a functioning television, maybe.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (PcMP6)

175 174 ya know what's fucked up?

I feel safer in Kurdistan than I would in Europe
Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 08:26 AM (NyVz

The Kurds are armed and badass.

The Euros, not so much.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (ZKlDy)

176 we MUST profile
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:25 AM (zOTsN)


Some jack ass from Boston on who is refusing to say it's a muslim problem...typical liberal suicide asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (mw8Dm)

177 I hope they all rot in hell with maggots eating slowly at their penises.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (zfvHs)

178 This is how Trump can win against Hillary, events, my dear boy.

Any other terrorist attacks in Europe close to election time, Hillary and her Islam sympathizing are done for.

I was gratified to see that the comments I read at the Yahoo article linked on the side bar, uniformly condemned Islam and Europe's facilitation of their conquering invaders.

How many people so that liberal politicians can feel good about themselves and oh so open minded?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (QlyN5)

179 In before chemjeff takes another steaming dump on the thread.
Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:28 AM (HA9zO)

Well, those strawmen take awhile to build before he can burn them.

Posted by: WOPR at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (LTDSy)

180 >>>Posted by: IC at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (zK6nG)

***

Don't sweat it. I go there pretty often. You'll be fine. The most trouble you'll likely have is "industrial action" (read: strike) of one sort or another.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:28 AM (bpn7O)

181 Some jack ass from Boston on who is refusing to say it's a muslim problem...typical liberal suicide asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM


Let me guess....Boston's police commissioner. He's had both feet in his mouth lately.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 22, 2016 08:28 AM (bzd8I)

182 no body fears us
>>>>>>>>>>>>
This.

We used to complain that the US was acting as the world's policeman.

Well this is what the world looks like without us.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 08:28 AM (HA9zO)

183

Boston cop asshole saying we cant follow the numbers we have now

but argues against profiling

and if we import more WE ARE BELGIUM

no thanks

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:29 AM (zOTsN)

184 These arent anti Trump protesters. At least identifying them as anti trump is a step up but:

they are not protesters but criminals and thugs
they are democrats but better to refer to them as Hillary's thugs

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:22 AM (iQIUe)


Sorry. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

#NeverTrumpoids try to smear all Trump supporters with the worst, minor members of whatever creepy group they can find.

Therefore...

#NeverTrumpoids need to embrace these smart, good-thinking fellow anti-trumpet protesters because surely they represent the true nature of all #NeverTrump/anti-Trump people.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 22, 2016 08:30 AM (2rmvw)

185 Well, those strawmen take awhile to build before he can burn them.

Posted by: WOPR at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (LTDSy)


He's got closets full of them, ready to go.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 08:30 AM (zc3Db)

186 Another bomb belt found.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:30 AM (/D5Lf)

187 re: Finland
.
Vodka and Video Games is not a bad way to go thru life . .
.

Posted by: FireNWater at March 22, 2016 08:30 AM (cCDP3)

188
As usual we see the usual parade of talking heads saying the same thing.

Democrat solutions:

1. broader government spying
2. more funding for govt spying
3. programs for assimilation
4. programs to educate Westerners on diversity
...
5. Denounce Trump/praise Islam

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:30 AM (o2321)

189 "12
Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?


Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (HA9zO)"


We could construct a new man made island like the Chinese are doing near the Spratly Islands. We can put the Gitmo prisoners to work on the project with picks and shovels right away.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 08:30 AM (QHgTq)

190 At this point take water out of boarding and instead substitute bacon grease...

I think bacon grease boarding would have more of the needed effect.


I'm sure Trump will steal that by lunch.

Posted by: H Badger at March 22, 2016 08:30 AM (n/0Nw)

191 Tuuurd Finger

He's the man

The man with fecal touch

Posted by: Shirley Bassey at March 22, 2016 08:31 AM (NA4Je)

192 #JeSuisTiredOfThisShit

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:23 AM (iQIUe)

stealing this

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 22, 2016 08:31 AM (0O7c5)

193 What would happen if a European Trump came out of the blue?

--

Anti immigrant protesters in Europe already chant "Donald Trump" against the lefties.
He's a boogeyman to the left, a symbol to the right.
This is what I've said before - Trump the man is almost irrelevant to the wave that is happening in reaction to globalism and leftist overreach. Trump the Macguffin is important.

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 08:31 AM (cbfNE)

194 Boston cop asshole saying we cant follow the numbers we have now

but argues against profiling

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:29 AM (zOTsN)


Yeah .... he was quite the retarded douchebag. He also claimed that it could just as easily have been Christians who carried out all these terrorist acts that only muzzies have been carrying out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 08:31 AM (zc3Db)

195
They're like robots reciting a recorded message.

It's like they are programmed to appear on TV and repeat the same lies and same nonsense and same redirects.



Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:32 AM (o2321)

196
Is Michelle Fields ok?

Posted by: rerun at March 22, 2016 07:57 AM (SOVQ
________________________________

Other than being a quadriplegic I'm just peachy...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 22, 2016 08:32 AM (HSmrB)

197 Yesterday I was at swimming lessons with my kids and there was a muslim woman there with her children. She was typing in a group chat in Arabic. I breathed a sigh of relief when she left and her kids weren't in my kids' class.

I profile the hell out of people without shame.

Posted by: Lauren at March 22, 2016 08:34 AM (BMCq5)

198
Marine LePen already said the things Trump said before Trump said them.

LePen did so well in the last French elections, the French Left and the French Right banded together to prevent her from forming a majority govt, something we might see here after the convention or election.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:34 AM (o2321)

199 "How many people so that liberal politicians can feel good about themselves and oh so open minded?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 22, 2016 08:27 AM (QlyN5)"


As many as it takes.

They will sit on a mountain of skulls if that is what it takes for them to feel morally superior to you.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 08:34 AM (QHgTq)

200 198 Wait,ChemJeff is the Biston police commissioner?

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2016 08:35 AM (B48dK)

201 Mornin' Horde. Mind those unattended packages, they're killers.

If anyone out there has the greasemonkey script for Firefox that added an "ignore" button for the HQ here, please send it to dstomper, at stompershack, dot, com. The old repository of such scripts is gone and the mirror is less than useless to find anything in.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 08:35 AM (9krrF)

202 I profile the hell out of people without shame.
Posted by: Lauren at March 22, 2016 08:34 AM (BMCq5)

Any normal person does

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:35 AM (mw8Dm)

203 Toll at 34 now

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:35 AM (/D5Lf)

204
Yeah, Fox News guy, Tim Cook.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:35 AM (o2321)

205

Americans want to retain Gitmo!

Where else are we going to put Hillary. Heck we've drone-zappped US citizens for planning to kill Americans let alone ambassadors.

Posted by: DaveA at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (DL2i+)

206
Today's Biggest Asshole is....


Tim Cook.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (o2321)

207 The bomb belt means nothing. How else is a poor middle eastern migrant supposed to keep his pants up?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (HBGKp)

208 This is what I've said before - Trump the man is almost irrelevant to the wave that is happening in reaction to globalism and leftist overreach. Trump the Macguffin is important.

It was going to be somebody. It was happenstance that Trump tapped into it. I think even he was surprised by what happened next, to be honest.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (9krrF)

209 We're paying $4,038 a year to lease Gitmo
Surely, Cuba needs the income.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (e8kgV)

210 Le Pen

Farage

Pegida

Merkel has a young female challenger from the right

suspend Islamic immigration from terrorist exporting countries

(and lets fce it, thats basically all of them)

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:37 AM (zOTsN)

211 210
Today's Biggest Asshole is....


Tim Cook.
Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (o2321)

What, is Tall Gay Tim wrapping himself in the flag again?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:37 AM (ZKlDy)

212 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 07:30 AM (HA9zO)



Why don't we just open the gates and let them run freely into Cuba

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:37 AM (493sH)

213 ya know it's funny, Trump called for closing our Border s now....We don't even have the capabilities to do that. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:37 AM (mw8Dm)

214 The bomb belt means nothing. How else is a poor middle eastern migrant supposed to keep his pants up?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (HBGKp)


Stylish jihadis use det-cord suspenders.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 08:37 AM (zc3Db)

215 The real victim of this morning's attacks. Of course.
https://twitter.com/NathanWurtzel/status/712254895991209989
Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (d1RNN)

Barack finally gets to visit his lifelong heroes in Cuba and all those dead and injured people have to screw things up.

Will no one let this poor man alone?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (QlyN5)

216 Heard speculation that these bombings may have been in response to the arrest of the Bataclan dude earlier this week.

Now THAT is 'backlash'.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (NeFrd)

217 from the first link: "Cuban President Raul Castro directly challenged President Obama..." stop.

Castro was never elected to a presidency. To call him such confers legitimacy he does not have. He's a Gangster. A dictator, not even a leader, as followers are forced to follow.

If I started calling myself Pope or King you are not obliged to humor me. It would be nice however.

Posted by: The Wolf Who Cried Boy at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (Ndje9)

218 #NeverTrumpoids try to smear all Trump supporters with the worst, minor members of whatever creepy group they can find.


Exactly the way the Uniparty and their media cohorts treated the Tea Party.

Posted by: Michelle Fields' Arm Hickey at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (r9tFS)

219 Yesterday I was at swimming lessons with my kids and there was a muslim woman there with her children. She was typing in a group chat in Arabic. I breathed a sigh of relief when she left and her kids weren't in my kids' class.

I profile the hell out of people without shame.
Posted by: Lauren



I profile the hell out of everyone.
Equal opportunity profiler.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (6oPFc)

220 >>Marine LePen already said the things Trump said before Trump said them.



Gert Wilders. Who I think is on trial for hate speech in Brussels right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH)

221 We're paying $4,038 a year to lease Gitmo
Surely, Cuba needs the income.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (e8kgV)

Shit that's more than I pay in rent, but then I am pretty sure they have more square footage?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (mw8Dm)

222 219 The real victim of this morning's attacks. Of course.
https://twitter.com/NathanWurtzel/status/712254895991209989
Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (d1RNN)

Barack finally gets to visit his lifelong heroes in Cuba and all those dead and injured people have to screw things up.

Will no one let this poor man alone?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (QlyN5)

People just need to Let Him Be Clear.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (ZKlDy)

223 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo

Johnson Atoll?

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (cXiMR)

224 >>>Surely, Cuba needs the income.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (e8kgV)

***

Right after the revolution, they only cashed one of those checks. None since.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (bpn7O)

225 I have a slight improvement on the Finnish model of giving every citizen $900 per month and ending welfare. How about reducing the stipend to $0? Or, does that limit the graft the politicians need to survive?

Now that we all seem to agree, both left and right, that welfare is a bad idea, the only reason for the stipend is to buy loyalty from voters, nothing more.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (Qvgg/)

226 215 210
"Today's Biggest Asshole is....

Tim Cook. "


That's odd. Normally, Biggest Assholes named Cook are spelled with an "e" at the end.

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (Zs4uk)

227 My friends and their families in Brussels just checked in safe. Fear has subsided, anger now taking over.
There will be no bargaining or acceptance phase for me.

Posted by: IP at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (aQQbl)

228 Why do you ecavuate staff from a Nuclear Power plant? Wouldn't you want to INCREASE support in a crisis?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:40 AM (mw8Dm)

229 Today's Biggest Asshole is....


Tim Cook.
Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:36 AM (o2321)

Why?

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:40 AM (/D5Lf)

230 It was going to be somebody. It was happenstance that Trump tapped into it. I think even he was surprised by what happened next, to be honest.



Right place. Right time.
The story of history.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 08:41 AM (6oPFc)

231 Heard speculation that these bombings may have been in response to the arrest of the Bataclan dude earlier this week.

Now THAT is 'backlash'.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (NeFrd)
-----------------------

That's quick turnaround, too. If it's true, sounds like these folks are ready to go at a moment's notice.

But first, we have to get through this 2-day course on Diversity and White Privilege on the Battlefield in the Context of Climate Change and its Disparate Impact on Women and People of Color.

Posted by: iforgot at March 22, 2016 08:41 AM (pC96u)

232
Posted by: Michelle Fields' Arm Hickey at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (r9tFS)
___________________________________

And yes,, my arm hickey has a mind of it's own..

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 22, 2016 08:41 AM (HSmrB)

233 Peter Bergen said in yesterdays article in AEI that we KNOW they are coming in as refugees

ENOUGH

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:41 AM (zOTsN)

234 The real victim of this morning's attacks. Of course.
https://twitter.com/NathanWurtzel/status/712254895991209989
Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 22, 2016 07:37 AM (d1RNN)

Barack finally gets to visit his lifelong heroes in Cuba and all those dead and injured people have to screw things up.

Will no one let this poor man alone?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (QlyN5)

People just need to Let Him Be Clear.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (ZKlDy)



Was he eating a waffle?

Cause I just couldn't stand it if they wouldn't let TFG finish his waffle.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 22, 2016 08:41 AM (2rmvw)

235 Yeah .... he was quite the retarded douchebag. He also claimed that it could just as easily have been Christians who carried out all these terrorist acts that only muzzies have been carrying out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 08:31 AM (zc3Db)



What a worthless piece of shit. Assholes like this are the bigger problem we face.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:41 AM (493sH)

236 Why do you ecavuate staff from a Nuclear Power plant?

Wouldn't you want to INCREASE support in a crisis?




Not when it is #TooLate.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 08:42 AM (6oPFc)

237 Arresting terrorists simply breeds more terrorists.

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 08:42 AM (iynDC)

238 Shit that's more than I pay in rent, but then I am pretty sure they have more square footage?Posted by: Nevergiveup


Best landlord in the world. The USA cuts the check every year, but Cuba hasn't cashed them for four or five decades.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 08:42 AM (fbovC)

239 Obama should offer to rename the prison at Gitmo to be ..
Chez Guevara
.. it's so appropriate at multiple levels.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 22, 2016 08:43 AM (e8kgV)

240 Marine LePen already said the things Trump said before Trump said them.


Gert Wilders. Who I think is on trial for hate speech in Brussels right now.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (NOIQH)


The truth is hate speech. Welcome to Oceania, comrades.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:43 AM (493sH)

241 #BelgianLivesMatter

#I'llCheckBagsWithYou

Posted by: Progressive Douchebag at March 22, 2016 08:43 AM (zfvHs)

242 Will no one let this poor man alone?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (QlyN5)

People just need to Let Him Be Clear.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (ZKlDy)


Was he eating a waffle?



Well, we know it wasn't a twatwaffle.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 08:43 AM (6oPFc)

243 Ted on

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:43 AM (zOTsN)

244
So, Michelle Fields, did Corey ever drunk dial you?

ps: How's your arm?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (iQIUe)

245
Why Tim Cook?

Because Fox News TV (Himmer?) just told me that last night Tim Cook tweeted that he and Apple were standing strong against the government's wish to unlock the terrorists iphone.

And the Western world wakes up to yet another jihadi attack.

Tim Cook, in my opinion, is an Islamic collaborator whether he thinks so or not.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (o2321)

246 166 Those who are pro-gun, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, pro-life, and enjoy fantasy football have no place in the state of New York!

Don't forget smokers.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (r9tFS)

247 "Chertoff's solutions are:

1. open borders but with security checks

2. perpetual war in the middle east

...

3. Denounce Trump's ideas as preposterous and bigoted as pieces of Westerners are being scraped up from the pavement"

Re #1: Chertoff is quite literally in the business of security checks.

Those body scanners expensively purchased for hundreds of airports by the TSA? Yep, from a Chertoff-linked company.

Chertoff has a bunch of other "consulting" gigs associated with security theatre. If the Muslim terrorist problem were to be effectually brought under control, he would have to retire.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 08:45 AM (noWW6)

248 Ted using this to call out Obama for not calling radical islamic terror by its name, to not recognize we are at war ith radical islam

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:45 AM (zOTsN)

249 Tim Cook, in my opinion, is an Islamic collaborator whether he thinks so or not.
Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (o2321)

Chertoff? is that you.

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 08:46 AM (cXiMR)

250 235 Heard speculation that these bombings may have been in response to the arrest of the Bataclan dude earlier this week.

Now THAT is 'backlash'.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (NeFrd)

Also heard that it was not in response to the arrest but a separate and unique attack. That Abdesalam had fallen out of favor with ISIS and he was actually on the run from them as well.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:46 AM (/D5Lf)

251 How's Cuba fixed for golf courses?

Posted by: Dirks strewn at March 22, 2016 08:46 AM (xw2oz)

252 Tim Cook, in my opinion, is an Islamic collaborator whether he thinks so or not.

Posted by: cucumbah watah

----

Comrades! You have nothing to fear by giving up all of your rights to the government! They are here to protect you from everyone, including protecting you from yourself!

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 08:46 AM (Qvgg/)

253

reporter interrupts Cruz's statement

Ted calls for suspension of refugee program

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (zOTsN)

254
Those body scanners expensively purchased for hundreds of airports by the TSA? Yep, from a Chertoff-linked company.

Yeah, the man is despicable.

And from now on I am calling anyone who impedes the cessation of these Islamic attacks collaborators.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (o2321)

255 Ted says Obama has to make better speeches; Trump says we have to impose a moritorium on Islamic immigration and illegal invasion generally.

Today, Arizona votes on which works better.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (HBGKp)

256 Guildmaster:
[to the Emperor]
Remedy this situation, restore spice production, or you will live out your life in a pain amplifier!

.. this should work for terrorists and murders

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (e8kgV)

257 muslims have hope for their future in Europe. But its a future where Europe is finally muslim
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:14 AM (zOTsN)

------------------------------

Our best hope now is a new Charles Martel and battle of Tours.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (LXJ1e)

258 257

reporter interrupts Cruz's statement

Ted calls for suspension of refugee program
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (zOTsN)

Ah, grabbing one of the Donald's talking points, and a good one too.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (ZKlDy)

259 "220
Heard speculation that these bombings may have been in response to the arrest of the Bataclan dude earlier this week.



Now THAT is 'backlash'.



Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 08:38 AM (NeFrd)"


It could be a "use it or lose it" sort of thing. The Bataclan dude seems to be talking in custody and his buddies might well have figured that the police will be picking them up within the next week or so if they don't run away immediately or carry out this action that they had been planning anyway.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (QHgTq)

260 Why Tim Cook?

Because Fox News TV (Himmer?) just told me that last night Tim Cook tweeted that he and Apple were standing strong against the government's wish to unlock the terrorists iphone.

And the Western world wakes up to yet another jihadi attack.

Tim Cook, in my opinion, is an Islamic collaborator whether he thinks so or not.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (o2321)


Western defense against muzzies does not depend on cracking iphones. The government is leaning on that excuse so that they don't have to do their actual job and point out that muzzies are the problem, not iphones.

Tim Cook can go to hell, where he belongs, but that has nothing to do with the bullshit the government is spouting about needing access to everyone's phone, computer and ability to listen in on everyone's conversations in their bedrooms. This war is about the government being able to recognize who the friggin enemy is, not to whine and moan about phone access.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (zc3Db)

261 They are here to protect you from everyone, including protecting you from yourself!
Posted by: Vashta Nerada

Especially for those of you with dangerous thoughts like: taxes are too high, I like guns, ...

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (cXiMR)

262 People just need to Let Him Be Clear.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:39 AM (ZKlDy)

Folks. Folks just need to let him be clear.

It's always "folks" with Obama. Must test well with teh focus groups.

And those folks don't have ideas or opinions. They have notions.



Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (r9tFS)

263 The Bataclan guy was arrested just a few days ago. This had to be planned for months. There was talk before the arrest that they were planning something big. But you can always say that. How did they get thru security? I say inside job.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (iQIUe)

264 >>>Tim Cook, in my opinion, is an Islamic collaborator whether he thinks so or not.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (o2321)

***

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (bpn7O)

265 Ted calls for suspension of refugee program
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (zOTsN)

--

That sounds perilously close to calling for a ban on Muslim immigration...

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (cbfNE)

266 YES, NOW Ted gets to the point. No more "refugees"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (HBGKp)

267

Tim Cook, in my opinion, is an Islamic collaborator whether he thinks so or not.

The FBI has plenty of evidence concerning that attack.

What they want is more surveillance power over you, which, unless they have probable cause that you've committed a crime to present before a judge, is illegal.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (LUgeY)

268 I'd really like to hear ace's thoughts on Glenn Beck and Kevin Swanson and what it says about Cruz that he'd so closely associate himself with all this religion talk?? In context I'd like to know why Trump is such a "disaster" but Cruz isn't.

Posted by: Kenja Time at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (HdUM8)

269 260 Guildmaster:
[to the Emperor]
Remedy this situation, restore spice production, or you will live out your life in a pain amplifier!

.. this should work for terrorists and murders
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (e8kgV)

I've always thought that a pain amplifier would be a great alibi. "We didn't torture him, we just poked him with a stick while he was in the pain amplifier."

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (ZKlDy)

270 250 166 Those who are pro-gun, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, pro-life, and enjoy fantasy football have no place in the state of New York!

Don't forget smokers.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (r9tFS)

And frac'ers

Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (NyVz8)

271

Cruz slamming Trump for suggesting we retreat from NATO

points out NATO was one of the targets of todays attacks


personally, I think the suggestion we withdraw from NATO was a finger pounding in the chest of Turkey to get with the fucking program or be on thier own

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (zOTsN)

272
Observation.

While we were fighting "unpopular" wars, invading foreign lands, giving terrorists swirlies, and making Abu Garib a naked yoga center.... there were no terrorist attacks in the States or in Europe.

But... since we as a nation have evoloved, elected a President that bows to foreign leaders, apologizes for our "Islamaphobia", pulled totally out of the sandbox, stopped capturing Islamist ringleaders, emptied out Gitmo, and redefined "who were are".....

.... the bombings have gone up.


I wonder if that fact will ever register on our self appointed betters.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (8XRCm)

273
267 The Bataclan guy was arrested just a few days ago. This had to be planned for months. There was talk before the arrest that they were planning something big. But you can always say that. How did they get thru security? I say inside job.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (iQIUe)

They exploded in the area where you just walk in with your luggage to check in.

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (MQEz6)

274 Are we supposed to feel sorry for Belgians? Because I'm having a hard time with that.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (4boI/)

275 So the Brussels airport bombers are of Dagestani origin, and they were "known wolves" to Russian intelligence, and Russian intelligence sources are saying they clearly warned the Belgians in advance to take action, and there was no response.

Gee whiz, Wally. Just like the Tsarnaev clan, bombers of the Boston Marathon, who were also in the files of the Russian intel services, and about whom the Russians also issued a warning to the appropriate Western government, ours, a warning which was also unheeded.

Sure looks as though our Western governments are completely unrealistic about, and utterly incapable of getting to grips with, the Muslim terror problem. To hell with Don Trump. Let's get Vladimir in here to sort things out.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (noWW6)

276 Chief of Police is elected in Boston, is it not?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (iQIUe)

277 Ted calls for suspension of refugee program


a day late and a canadian dollar short

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (nFwvY)

278 so closely associate himself with all this religion talk??

-------


Because he's religious? Something wrong with that?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (U+nHb)

279 274
250 166 Those who are pro-gun, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, pro-life, and
enjoy fantasy football have no place in the state of New York!



Don't forget smokers.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (r9tFS)



And frac'ers
Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (NyVz


But I can keep my soda right?

Posted by: IP at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (aQQbl)

280 267 The Bataclan guy was arrested just a few days ago. This had to be planned for months. There was talk before the arrest that they were planning something big. But you can always say that. How did they get thru security? I say inside job.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:48 AM (iQIUe)

What security? No screening to get to a check in counter. And certainly no security at a metro stop.

Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (NyVz8)

281 I weep at the fact that a sitting President of the United States had a meeting in a place called The Palace of the Revolution.

FFS

Posted by: citizen khan at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (ZvCR9)

282
But I can keep my soda right?
Posted by: IP at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (aQQbl)

For the moment.

But you watch your ass

Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (NyVz8)

283 216 Is there an alternative to Gitmo?

Something that we could turn into another island super-max?

---

ahhh, just release them. They've done their time and deserve a second chance already. So just drop them off at the south pole.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (R8ea6)

284 Cruz slamming Trump for suggesting we retreat from NATO

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (zOTsN)


NATO is a worthless hunk of shit.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (zc3Db)

285 a day late and a canadian dollar short
Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (nFwvY)

------

Can we stop with the extreme stupid for one day? Just one?

Posted by: Seems legit at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (U+nHb)

286 So, Michelle Fields, did Corey ever drunk dial you?

ps: How's your arm?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:44 AM (iQIUe)
________________________________

OMG!!! ALL THE TIME!!!!

My arm is still mangled and the pain unbearable...

Posted by: Michelle Fields at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (HSmrB)

287 Cruz sounds outstanding this AM

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (mw8Dm)

288

Ted slamming the Castro Obama bromance

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:52 AM (zOTsN)

289 285 I weep at the fact that a sitting President of the United States had a meeting in a place called The Palace of the Revolution.

FFS
Posted by: citizen khan at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (ZvCR9)

Amen

Posted by: Seems legit at March 22, 2016 08:52 AM (U+nHb)

290 Has CAIR whined yet?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:52 AM (iQIUe)

291 If Cruz has just stuck to this tone all along. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:52 AM (mw8Dm)

292

says obama "groveled before a communist dictator" and enthusiastically agreed with a communist dictator on his criticism of America

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:52 AM (zOTsN)

293
The property of terrorists after they have committed an act of terrorism should not be protected under privacy laws.


Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (o2321)

294 I weep at the fact that a sitting President of the United States had a meeting in a place called The Palace of the Revolution.

FFS
Posted by: citizen khan at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (ZvCR9)

----

And posed for a photo op in front a huge likeness of Che.


Asshole.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (8XRCm)

295 Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 08:50 AM (4boI/)



Not for the leftists. For the rest, yes.

Posted by: artist at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (TwnkX)

296 The Bataclan guy was arrested just a few days ago. This had to be
planned for months. There was talk before the arrest that they were
planning something big.

--

Belgian nuclear power plants are being evacuated of non-essential personnel. I would assume this is so the police can shoot at anyone on the site without fear of collateral damage .

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (Qvgg/)

297 And posed for a photo op in front a huge likeness of Che.


Asshole.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (8XRCm)

THAT was unforgiveable

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (mw8Dm)

298

Cruz saying we shouldnt cede Europe to terrorists

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (zOTsN)

299
Chief of Police is elected in Boston, is it not?

Mayoral appointment. A political appointment.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (o2321)

300 You either fight a war to win it, or you don't fight at all.

Personally, I would be dusting off the nuclear launch codes.

One simple warning, broadcast worldwide. For every terrorist attack on the west, you lose a muslim city. Since innocent people are fair game, let's play to win. Either you run out of cities, or I run out of nukes. Mecca is fair game.


Good luck with that.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (2PHKP)

301 TFG will not let the jihadists pranks in Belgium spoil his special day. Itinerary remains the same.
He has scheduled remarks at 10 I think where heat or may not give a shout out to his Muz bros

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (cbfNE)

302 Power plant wasn't evacuated but personnel were told they 'can leave.'

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (/D5Lf)

303 Cruz saying we shouldnt cede Europe to terrorists

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (zOTsN)

There's no need to. The eurotards are doing a fine job by themselves.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (WVsWD)

304 I weep at the fact that a sitting President of the United States had a meeting in a place called The Palace of the Revolution.

FFS

Posted by: citizen khan at March 22, 2016 08:51 AM (ZvCR9)



He was probably in commie ecstasy the whole time.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (493sH)

305 Cruz saying we shouldnt cede Europe to terrorists
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (zOTsN)

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Did he have any thoughts on how to stop the Europeans from doing that to themselves???

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (8XRCm)

306 Ted calls for suspension of refugee program
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:47 AM (zOTsN)

--------------------------

Not enough.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (LXJ1e)

307

I no longer support fighting for countries that WILL NOT FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (zOTsN)

308 Oh hell, I hadn't even seen the photo. Un-fucking-believable, what a communist tool.

Posted by: citizen khan at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (ZvCR9)

309 10:10 am || Delivers remarks to the Cuban people; El Gran Teatro de Havana, Havana, Cuba
11:20 am || Meets with members Civil Society U.S. Embassy Havana
1:25 pm || Attends a Major League Baseball exhibition game between the Tampa Bay Rays and the Cuban National Team; stadio Latinoamericano, Havana
3:50 pm || Departs Cuba

Is the little bitch going to throw out the first pitch

Please oh please oh please

Could use a laugh

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (/D5Lf)

310 And posed for a photo op in front a huge likeness of Che.

Asshole.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (8XRCm)




Birds of a feather

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (493sH)

311 Power plant wasn't evacuated but personnel were told they 'can leave.'
Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (/D5Lf)

the told all "Non-Essential" staff to go home.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (mw8Dm)

312 I'm afraid Ace is stuck in the denial stage of grief. Like Ignoring the conventional wisdomof avoiding an injured animal some people are choosing to directly confront him.

Not a good strategy.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (fbovC)

313 Is the little bitch going to throw out the first pitch

Please oh please oh please

Could use a laugh

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (/D5Lf)



His limp wrist is warmed up and ready to go

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (493sH)

314 I no longer support fighting for countries that WILL NOT FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (zOTsN)

x100000

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (/D5Lf)

315
NB: Chad Sweet, who co-founded The Chertoff Group with Michael Chertoff is Ted Cruz's campaign chairman.

ballotpedia.org/Chad_Sweet

So, consider those boarders secure -- broadly speaking.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (kdS6q)

316 Cruz slamming Trump for suggesting we retreat from NATO

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (zOTsN)

-----------------------------

How dare we ask other members to step up to the plate and start carrying some load.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (LXJ1e)

317 I seem to recall reading about the Boston Police having a diversity visit to the big Boston mosque?

Also, hasn't CAIR created some sort of pledge for government types to sign that says they will do their best to combat Islamaphobia?

They're attacking the west from many angles.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (NOIQH)

318

He was probably in commie ecstasy the whole time.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:55 AM (493sH)


His panties are probably soaked right through.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (0IhFx)

319 The property of terrorists after they have committed an act of terrorism should not be protected under privacy laws.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (o2321)


Nobody said that it should be. That has nothing to do with apple and forcing them to provide a skeleton key to the feral government.

And the point is that the feral government and local police have duties BEFORE the attacks happen, with regard to mosques, muzzies and the like. Before anyone bleats about iphones there needs to be an immediate stop to any muzzies coming in. There needs to be serious hum-int spying conducted against muzzie orgs (like we used to do with soviets).

Stop with this iphone bullshit, already. It's months after the attack and the feds and locals have tons of witnesses, family members, mosques and friends of the San Bernadino jihadis to lean on.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (zc3Db)

320 >>>And posed for a photo op in front a huge likeness of Che.

Asshole.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (8XRCm)

***

I was quite surprised by that. He really is a bit of a disgrace.

Has Mitt Romney remarked on this?

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:58 AM (bpn7O)

321 Whether it was in response to the arrest or not, it is clear that we are not talking about lone wolves. This is an organization with a strategic aims, command and control, operational objectives and a willingness to wantonly kill civilians. Why, oh why can our so-called leaders not call this for what it is; a war?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 08:58 AM (NeFrd)

322 Currently you cannot take propane, citrus, dairy or meat into Mexico. The Mexican government is finally enforcing their own rules. When someone blamed Trump I replied that perhaps it's because of Fast and Furious. She said "The movie? Like Benghazi'.

Posted by: Reality Chockered at March 22, 2016 08:58 AM (gwG9s)

323 Oh hell, I hadn't even seen the photo. Un-fucking-believable, what a communist tool.
Posted by: citizen khan at March 22, 2016 08:56 AM (ZvCR9)

-------

Here you go. Let the RAGE flow thru you.



http://tinyurl.com/gpwrohx

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:58 AM (8XRCm)

324 His limp wrist is warmed up and ready to go

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 08:57 AM (493sH)



'He designed the javelin to go along with Lamar's limp-wristed throwing style.' - Gilbert Lowell

This truly is the story of Obama

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 08:58 AM (/D5Lf)

325 Yeah, but Donald Trump donated to Democrats!!!

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (MQEz6)

326 Oh and by the way, Paul Ryan already proposed suspending the Syrian refugee program, even passed a bill in the House, Ted Cruz supported it, it was of course stopped by the Donks in the Senate. This was all the way back in January. So this is absolutely not about Ted Cruz just copying Donald. Cruz has been leading on this for a while.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (+Fl7e)

327 Cover of NY Post:

Oh Che Can You See?

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (OLtUc)

328 >>>Cruz saying we shouldnt cede Europe to terrorists

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (zOTsN)

***

I'm not inclined to send American boys thousands of miles overseas to do a job European boys should be doing for themselves.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (bpn7O)

329 So basically the rule of thumb for me traveling in Europe now is to get to the airport at its least busy times no matter what time your flight is and stay the hell away from all public transportation...


Looks like its National Park trips until Europe decides to send back all the Muzzies...

Posted by: H Badger at March 22, 2016 09:00 AM (n/0Nw)

330 Refugees are killing people all over Belgium. If only we could understand their motivation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 09:00 AM (Nwg0u)

331 Why, oh why can our so-called leaders not call this for what it is; a war?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon

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And if they can't call it war, they certainly won't call it what it really is, which is a crusade.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 09:00 AM (Qvgg/)

332 These attacks will require an entirely new palette of multicolor Facebook picture overlays.

Posted by: USA at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (tfM+W)

333 "288 Cruz slamming Trump for suggesting we retreat from NATO

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:49 AM (zOTsN)

NATO is a worthless hunk of shit."

Turkey, a state sponsor of ISIS, is a member. We can't get out fast enough.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (PcMP6)

334 Cruz saying we shouldnt cede Europe to terrorists
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (zOTsN)


----------------------------

What's he going to do? Invade Europe?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (LXJ1e)

335 The primary word that comes to mind when I ponder how to extricate ourselves from the messes the political elites have created.

Conflagration.

Posted by: citizen khan at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (ZvCR9)

336 Hillary tweet from Nov 2015
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/667371059885301761

Let's be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (cbfNE)

337 >>And posed for a photo op in front a huge likeness of Che.



That photo is just plain weird.

First, they're all spread out and not smiling, like they were herded there without being told it was for a photo.

Second, are they on a roof top? Maybe that's why they're not smiling....probably wondering if they'll be bumped off it.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (NOIQH)

338 Germany welcomed two million unvetted immigrants in 2015. Guess who's next.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (4boI/)

339 Why, oh why can our so-called leaders not call this for what it is; a war?

Because, then, they would have to admit that we ARE at war with an ideology, and you can't tell the "good guys from the bad guys" just by looking at them. They really would have to consider blanket bans on immigration and the like, and that just harshes their one world mellow.

Posted by: no good deed at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (GgxVX)

340 332 >>>Cruz saying we shouldnt cede Europe to terrorists

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (zOTsN)

***

I'm not inclined to send American boys thousands of miles overseas to do a job European boys should be doing for themselves.



We fought two world wars and didn't bother to grab the pink slips. Europe is not ours to cede.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (6oPFc)

341 AS a reminder:

There are only three types of good moslums--ex, apostate and dead.

Further reminder: The ruling elite will do nothing about moslum terror because it still exists in the abstract to them.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (fQ/0p)

342
Here you go. Let the RAGE flow thru you.







http://tinyurl.com/gpwrohx

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:58 AM (8XRCm)


Question: I notice that Obama has his hand over the spot where his heart would be if he had one....this is something he won't do while our anthem is being played. Did he have a change of 'heart', or is something else happening?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (0IhFx)

343 we need to suspend ALL immigration from terrorist exporting countries, not just the refugee program

thats all Islamic countries


and what about europeon passport holders who are islamic?

that should be suspended too

I no longer givee a shit about appearances

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM (zOTsN)

344 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 09:00 AM (Nwg0u)


I hear they have their best detectives working on it.

Posted by: artist at March 22, 2016 09:02 AM (TwnkX)

345 Why, oh why can our so-called leaders not call this for what it is; a war?

We've been in a War on Terror for some time now.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:02 AM (+Fl7e)

346 State department employee 'unaccounted for' in Brussels.

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 09:02 AM (fbovC)

347 That photo is just plain weird.

First, they're all spread out and not smiling, like they were herded there without being told it was for a photo.

Second, are they on a roof top? Maybe that's why they're not smiling....probably wondering if they'll be bumped off it.

---

Have a look at any soviet style country's picture archive. Slaves are not known for smiling.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (Qvgg/)

348 Was he eating a waffle?

Cause I just couldn't stand it if they wouldn't let TFG finish his waffle.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 22, 2016 08:41 AM (2rmvw)

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Please God, don't let it have been a Belgian waffle.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (R8ea6)

349 How many NATO states have met their minimum 2% GDP defense budget pledge, right. NATO left us. Trump is talking about reality. We need a new security alliance focused on the eastern european states - Hungary, Poland, the Baltic's, etc.

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (cXiMR)

350 >>Let's be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and
tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.


Wow, sounds like a canned statement - has she tweeted that before? Sounds familiar.

Also, who is saying it's Muslim terrorism? Nothing I've seen was saying that - just mentioning the Bataclan guy who was arrested w/out identifying. So...it's a pre-emptive defense of Islam. That makes her look bought and paid for by CAIR, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (NOIQH)

351 Oh and by the way, Paul Ryan already proposed suspending the Syrian refugee program, even passed a bill in the House, Ted Cruz supported it, it was of course stopped by the Donks in the Senate. This was all the way back in January. So this is absolutely not about Ted Cruz just copying Donald. Cruz has been leading on this for a while.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (+Fl7e)

---------------------

A real leader in the Senate would have actually worked the system to turn the bill into law.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (LXJ1e)

352 Kasich on the tube talking up toppling Assad and cooperation with Turkey. This is the GOPe at its finest. Someone needs to ask Hillary how many tens of thousands of Syrian "refugees" we need to take. Get her in a bidding war with the Republican Establishment.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (PcMP6)

353 @votermom at March 22, 2016 09:01 AM
Oh, thank you for that. I so needed a laugh.


Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (4boI/)

354
Kasick is now talking in useless P.C. platitudes.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (o2321)

355 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (+Fl7e)

356 We've been in a War on Terror for some time now.

I've always hated that label. Terror is a tactic. We are not at war with a tactic but with those who employ it, whether our leaders want to admit it or not.

Posted by: no good deed at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (GgxVX)

357 islam is a cancer on the civilized world.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (sl+zA)

358


State department employee 'unaccounted for' in Brussels.


Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 09:02 AM (fbovC)

victim or bomber? Could be an interpreter

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (zOTsN)

359
Kasick's solutions: We need to bring the world together.

In other words, Kasich wants the whole world to Have A Coke And A Smile.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (o2321)

360 A real leader in the Senate would have actually worked the system to turn the bill into law.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (LXJ1e)

Yeah, maybe Ted Cruz should have executed Harry Reid on the spot in order to cower the Donks into supporting the bill.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (+Fl7e)

361 >>Here you go. Let the RAGE flow thru you.

http://tinyurl.com/gpwrohx



Whoa!
I hadn't seen that one.
WTF.




No really, what are they doing?!?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (NOIQH)

362 Lizzie that was from Nov
Probably about Paris

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (cbfNE)

363 "304
You either fight a war to win it, or you don't fight at all.

Personally, I would be dusting off the nuclear launch codes.

One
simple warning, broadcast worldwide. For every terrorist attack on the
west, you lose a muslim city. Since innocent people are fair game, let's
play to win. Either you run out of cities, or I run out of nukes. Mecca
is fair game.


Good luck with that.




Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (2PHKP"



I suggest that Mecca may not be the most effective target but that Spengler has written an article which might offer an effective strategy.


http://tinyurl.com/gpy447k


The 30% solution is more likely to be successful.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (QHgTq)

364 Oh and by the way, Paul Ryan already proposed suspending the Syrian refugee program, even passed a bill in the House, Ted Cruz supported it, it was of course stopped by the Donks in the Senate. This was all the way back in January. So this is absolutely not about Ted Cruz just copying Donald. Cruz has been leading on this for a while.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (+Fl7e)

---------------------

A real leader in the Senate would have actually worked the system to turn the bill into law.


Since the pubs have the Senate.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (6oPFc)

365
Together Together Together

We're all in it together.

That's Kasick right now.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (o2321)

366
How do you even get in the door with enough explosives to do that?

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 08:08 AM (ZKlDy)


There are no security checkpoints until after check-in.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at March 22, 2016 08:12 AM (d7wFx)







As much as I hate flying, I REALLY hate the check-in counter and TSA area. It sucks being in a target-rich environment when you're a walking B-27 silhouette.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (/wVDI)

367 Why is anyone shocked that Obama would fellate communists in public?

"I intend on fundamentally transforming America".

Transforming into what was a question, back then at least. No one really asked what he intended to transform it into. But we know now what he meant.

Change America from a country that openly fought communism and communism-lite (socialism) into a country that openly fights for both and against democracy.

Obama would wear a Che t-shirt if he didn't have to hide his allegience in public. Instead, he can only hint at it to send a message. If he did in the open what his heart really desired...well, I used to think he'd be run out of office, but today, I doubt it matters any more.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (2PHKP)

368 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (+Fl7e)


Easy. Stop all people coming from islamic countries and make best guesses about others. No one has a "right" to come here. We can turn people away for any reason or for no reason. If we turn away some non-muzzies by mistake, who cares?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (zc3Db)

369 Belgian public broadcaster now reports police found unexploded suicide vest at #Brussels airport, likely belonging to a 3rd terrorist.

=========
Someone chicken out?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (iQIUe)

370 "Ted calls for suspension of refugee program"

His talent for stepping on his own dick is unparalleled.

It was only a short while ago that Ted was delivering a sanctimonious lecture about how we could not possibly be turning refugees away. It wasn't who we are, blather blather.

Don Trump grasped the nettle. He said right off that he was fine with turning away refugees, and everyone at the time gasped in OMG SHOCK HORROR DID YOU JUST HEAR THAT. But now in retrospect it looks like prescient genius.

The frustrating thing here is that Ted could have done what Trump did, and he could have done it before Trump did, and he would be the one who looked like the tough farsighted leader. But Ted didn't do that. And now he's having to rush to play catch-up and alter his positions.

Note to the Cruz campaign: the window for thus playing catch-up is closing incredibly fast. If it has not in fact already closed.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (noWW6)

371 I suggest that Mecca may not be the most effective target but that Spengler has written an article which might offer an effective strategy.



No hajj for the next 10,000 years due to radiation.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (6oPFc)

372 Oh please, topple Asad for us!
_____________________________________
356
Kasich on the tube talking up toppling Assad and cooperation with
Turkey. This is the GOPe at its finest. Someone needs to ask Hillary how
many tens of thousands of Syrian "refugees" we need to take. Get her in
a bidding war with the Republican Establishment.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (PcMP6)

Posted by: ISIS Leadership at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (fVOPU)

373
359 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (+Fl7e)

And so it begins.

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (MQEz6)

374

Obama will not leave Cuba just because the EU and NATO were targets in Belgium

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (zOTsN)

375 *raises hand

What the hell is Brexit?

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (/D5Lf)

376 See WZ. Salon is whining because a bunch of dead Walloons are taking attenion away from Obozo's treason tour. That poor boy just can't get a break.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (Nwg0u)

377

Preznit Spring Break in Cuba

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (zOTsN)

378 I wonder if this will make the TSA re-think their policy of "let's have hundreds of un-screened people funneled into an immoveable mass at each airport" security technique.

Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (NyVz8)

379
Liz the Wiz cashing her paycheck:

A group opposing Donald Trump is targeting Mormon voters online with an ad featuring the Republican presidential candidate's wife posing nude. The super-PAC Make America Awesome launched a Facebook campaign last week with three ads ahead of GOP contests Tuesday in Utah and Arizona.

Each ad is expected to reach around 10,000 voting-age Mormons per day, Liz Mair, the GOP strategist behind the group, told BuzzFeed. She said the Melania ad is also being promoted on Instagram, targeting Mormon women.

The Hill

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (kdS6q)

380 If we turn away some non-muzzies by mistake, who cares?

Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (+Fl7e)

381 Belgian public broadcaster now reports police found
unexploded suicide vest at #Brussels airport, likely belonging to a 3rd
terrorist.



=========

Someone chicken out?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (iQIUe)

Misfire most likely.Or the phone detonator didn't have a signal.

Posted by: IP at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (aQQbl)

382

Brexit is the British Exit from the EU

there is a vote this spring on it. They want out

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (zOTsN)

383 379 *raises hand

What the hell is Brexit?
Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (/D5Lf)

Br(itish)exit of the EU

Posted by: the real ch3 at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (NyVz8)

384 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (+Fl7e)

Easy. Stop all people coming from islamic countries and make best guesses about others. No one has a "right" to come here. We can turn people away for any reason or for no reason. If we turn away some non-muzzies by mistake, who cares?


Feed them sausage, ham sammiches, pork chops, etc ONLY at the detention facilities. Those that starve to death were muzzies.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (6oPFc)

385 Do we have an official WH sad face with sign photo yet? Or a pajama boy photo? Anyting?

How can we win this war if the WH can't get its photos out quickly?

Posted by: USA at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (tfM+W)

386 Someone chicken out?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (iQIUe)

There has been two arrest so possibly.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (/D5Lf)

387 What the hell is Brexit?
Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (/D5Lf)

Britain wants to exit the EU

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (cbfNE)

388 have

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (/D5Lf)

389
And here's the useless teat Peter King on Fox.

He will join the parade and denounce Trump in 5, 4, 3, ...

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (o2321)

390 and what about europeon passport holders who are islamic?

that should be suspended too

I no longer givee a shit about appearances
Posted by: ThunderB

Yes. Seriously, its not about a blanket ban on Muslims - its about acknowledging reality and not excluding consideration of participation in Muslim activities from the profiling databases.

Too many questionable Muslim connections should get you banned. Ignoring those relationships because of some vague commitment to higher ideal for human behavior is stupid and gets innocents killed.

If Catholics were still beheading people (aka the good, old days), then participation in Catholic function should be part of the profiles.

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (cXiMR)

391 Feed them sausage, ham sammiches, pork chops, etc ONLY at the detention facilities. Those that starve to death were muzzies.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (6oPFc)

Maybe they are just vegetarians? Or people who don't like pork? Not proof that they are Muslims.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (+Fl7e)

392 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (+Fl7e)


How about starting with the obvious ones and working from there?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (sl+zA)

393 No really, what are they doing?!?!?

Posted by: Lizzy

pledging allegiance to the che

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (nFwvY)

394 Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?



Not in the fucking least.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (6oPFc)

395 373 Belgian public broadcaster now reports police found unexploded suicide vest at #Brussels airport, likely belonging to a 3rd terrorist.

=========
Someone chicken out?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:06 AM (iQIUe)

Or the bomb malfunctioned and he abandoned it.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (ZKlDy)

396 Britain wants to exit the EU

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (cbfNE)

Thanks. So it is just a term and not an actual entity.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (/D5Lf)

397 Re: Hillary's comments -

Funny. You never see terrorists tweeting how they are not at war with all of Christianity, just those particular ones they don't like.

Nope, they just want to kill every fucking person who isn't muslim.

So who's the idiot in the room?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (2PHKP)

398 Oh and by the way, Paul Ryan already proposed suspending the Syrian
refugee program, even passed a bill in the House, Ted Cruz supported it,
it was of course stopped by the Donks in the Senate. This was all the
way back in January. So this is absolutely not about Ted Cruz just
copying Donald. Cruz has been leading on this for a while.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (+Fl7e)



Didn't Cruz at some point recently give a speech countering Trump's call for restrictions on muslim immigration to this country? Or am I misremembering things?

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (0IhFx)

399
Does Brussels have a friend in James Talyor? That's what I want to know.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (o2321)

400 Does that not bother you?

No, it really doesn't anymore. They can fight for their own existence.

Posted by: no good deed at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (GgxVX)

401 Ted calls for suspension of refugee program



More anti-muslim racism.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (HA9zO)

402

Hillary tweet from Nov 2015
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/667371059885301761

Let's be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.


That is sick. And by "sick", I mean clinically, diagnosably (that is too a word) mentally ill. As in unable to recognize reality.

Anyone who would seriously consider voting for her is sick as well.

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (LUgeY)

403 Maybe they are just vegetarians? Or people who don't like pork? Not proof that they are Muslims.



Not my problem. Not my concern.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (6oPFc)

404 384:

"Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?"

Given about ten Christians have been among the tens of thousands of "refugees" allowed into the country to blow it up---no. Cue "Islamaphobia" fears.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (PcMP6)

405 Does Brussels have a friend in James Talyor? That's what I want to know.
Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (o2321)

He's probably packing to go right now.

Posted by: @votermom at March 22, 2016 09:11 AM (cbfNE)

406 "So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person
really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to
ban."

The old rule about hoof and mouth disease is that if there isn't any hoof and mouth disease, then there won't be any.

If you have a group of refugees who are likely to contain Muslims, and you admit none of them, the sorting problem is solved quite neatly. No magic Muslim detector required.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 09:11 AM (noWW6)

407 >>>Looks like its National Park trips until Europe decides to send back all the Muzzies...

Posted by: H Badger at March 22, 2016 09:00 AM (n/0Nw)

***

This sort of thing has been going on for years. For example, Groupe Islamique Arme' was setting off bombs in Paris 20 years ago. What has changed is the number of no-go areas.

I have friends on rue Parmentier, close by Place de La Republique, sort of northeast Paris, and I no longer feel safe walking those streets, especially after dark. That's what's changed. As long as you stick to the tourist attractions, you're generally safe. Otherwise, well, the phrase "situational awareness" comes to mind.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 09:11 AM (bpn7O)

408 >>Why is anyone shocked that Obama would fellate communists in public?


Knowing it doesn't make seeing it any easier.

This is a US President willingly participating in Cuba's propaganda, and it is disgusting. I don't ever want to *not* be shocked by that.

Neoneocon mused yesterday: Obama has improved US relations with two countries during his administration: Iran and Cuba.
Now that's a legacy!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:11 AM (NOIQH)

409 Someone has mixed up a lot of TATP without blowing himself up -- we need to find that asshole quickly.

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 09:11 AM (cXiMR)

410 Yeah, maybe Ted Cruz should have executed Harry Reid on the spot in order to cower the Donks into supporting the bill.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (+Fl7e)


Well, at least he could've pummeled him senseless with a cane. There's some precedent in the Senate for that,you know.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 22, 2016 09:11 AM (k9NgJ)

411 Didn't Cruz at some point recently give a speech
countering Trump's call for restrictions on muslim immigration to this
country? Or am I misremembering things?


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 22, 2016 09:10 AM (0IhFx)

Stopping the Syrian refugee program, and banning Muslim immigration, are two different things.
Stoppin the Syrian refugee program because it ineffectively screens applicants, is sensible.
Banning Muslim immigration is unworkable in practice and stupid.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (+Fl7e)

412 Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (+Fl7e)


No, it doesn't. Most muzzie countries are upwards of 90% muzzie so stop with the strawman about small numbers of others (who you clearly don't care about). America's first responsibility is to Americans.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (zc3Db)

413 If Catholics were still beheading people (aka the good, old days), then participation in Catholic function should be part of the profiles.
Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 09:09 AM (cXiMR)

I hear from people who attended Catholic school that there are some nuns out there who would really, really like to bring the whole beheading thing back.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (ZKlDy)

414 ...a reliable test...


****


If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...


Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (NeFrd)

415 Yeah, maybe Ted Cruz should have executed Harry Reid on the spot in order to cower the Donks into supporting the bill.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:05 AM (+Fl7e)

Can we relax with the violent rhetoric? Jeez oh man.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (xuouz)

416 Oh and by the way, Paul Ryan already proposed suspending the Syrian refugee program, even passed a bill in the House, Ted Cruz supported it, it was of course stopped by the Donks in the Senate. This was all the way back in January. So this is absolutely not about Ted Cruz just copying Donald. Cruz has been leading on this for a while.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 08:59 AM (+Fl7e)

---------------------

A real leader in the Senate would have actually worked the system to turn the bill into law.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:03 AM (LXJ1e)

Actually another one I agree with ChemJeff on. Will miraculous never cease. The dems in the Senate sunk this

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (mw8Dm)

417 396
So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a
person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not
to ban.



Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (+Fl7e)

That's easy enough. Hand 'em a ham sandwich and tell 'em they can come in after they eat it.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (4boI/)

418 Given about ten Christians have been among the tens of thousands of
"refugees" allowed into the country to blow it up---no. Cue
"Islamaphobia" fears.


So the ten Christians don't really matter to you then.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (+Fl7e)

419 The Muldoon Identify a Duck Test™

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (NeFrd)

420 >>A group opposing Donald Trump is targeting Mormon voters online with an ad featuring the Republican presidential candidate's wife posing nude.

Coffee is for (non-Mormon) closers.

Posted by: General Zod at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (Bdeb0)

421 If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (NeFrd)

And there's black bags on the ducks it f*cks...

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (xuouz)

422 The idea that you cannot suggest any solution unless you can demonstrate it is a perfect solution or the best solution is just plain bullshit.

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (MQEz6)

423 Obama is probably very upset that his "President Historic" speech on why Cuba is totally awesome and how we need to embrace the communist rats running it has been overshadowed by terrorist attacks.

Not like he'd ever consider it bad form to go one with such a speech when the world is at war and 40 people just died in an attack.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (2PHKP)

424

I dont care about how it looks

profile

suspend immigration from terrorist exporting nations

search the social media of all islamic visitors to the United States

reserve special scrutiny for islamic visitors who are Europeon passport holders

I do not care how it looks. I do not care if its hard.

PROFILE

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:14 AM (zOTsN)

425 Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (+Fl7e)


Now THAT's a Strawman. What we should have done and still can do is set up safe zones in Syria, thus negating the need to resettle them elsewhere

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:14 AM (mw8Dm)

426 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.

So we can't have 100% accuracy, we should accept zero?!

Primordial had it right. If someone with a Syrian passport is applying, probably a good idea to turn that person away. Someone on a Canadian passport, well, we certainly have a relationship with Canada that will allow for screening that person, though if we can't get decent info from Canada then, yeah, I'm actually OK with turning that person away too.



Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 22, 2016 09:14 AM (PFy0L)

427 Banning Muslim immigration is unworkable in practice and stupid.



Where in the Constitution does it say WE HAVE TO ALLOW MUSLIM IMMIGRATION?

Show your work.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:14 AM (6oPFc)

428 Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (+Fl7e)

----

How bout this.

The chances of you or someone you love getting blowed to bits approaches zero.

However.... the chances that somebody gets killed by a nail shrapnel bomb in the next six month approaches metaphysical certainty. Somebody else is going to die if we stay on the path we're on.

So...because you want to "feel good" about yourself, you condemn some other nameless faceless person to get blown to bits.

What were your words???? Oh Yeah.

"Does that not bother you?"

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:14 AM (8XRCm)

429 I'm beginning to get the idea that this "tolerance" thing is overrated.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:14 AM (9krrF)

430 426
The idea that you cannot suggest any solution unless you can demonstrate
it is a perfect solution or the best solution is just plain bullshit.





Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (MQEz6)

I'm not demanding a *perfect* solution. Just one that *works*.
It is not possible in practice to "ban Muslim immigration" because there is no way of knowing for certain who is a Muslim and who is not.
"Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (+Fl7e)

431 I hope nobody thinks that offering a muzzie pork would be a good test.


Taqiya folks.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (/D5Lf)

432 418 ...a reliable test...

I'm good with a less reliable yet overly inclusive test.

Posted by: USA at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (tfM+W)

433

Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?

That's not our problem.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (LUgeY)

434 CJ ... why do we have to prove they are muslime? .... why not have them prove they are not.

Posted by: E.T. at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (yq4gk)

435 Three individuals from Utah among injured

Posted by: mega machines at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (fbovC)

436 Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their tormentors? Does that not bother you?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:08 AM (+Fl7e)


And, since geography isn't your thing, let me point out to you that America is close to NO ONE in a muslim country. They have to go past many non-muzzie countries and over oceans to get here. There are many other countries that are much closer to them and easier to get to, so put that strawman back in your closet and pull a different one out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (zc3Db)

437
First thing we do is stop the entry of ALL males between the ages of 15-45.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (o2321)

438 We could ask refugees basic questions about Christianity - things most Christians would know and the great majority of Muslims would not.

Of course, nowadays, many Americans wouldn't know the answers to the questions either.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (u0lmX)

439 >>Lizzie that was from Nov. Probably about Paris


Thanks - didn't catch that!
It's still a crazy statement by Hillary, but at least she didn't send it within hours of the Brussels attacks.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (NOIQH)

440

Ted calls for suspension of refugee program


Now Cruz is Hitler, too.

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (iynDC)

441
Notice this blog has been running on time for the first time in ages? EMT, Dump, etc.

It's like Ace is Mussolini!!!11!!!!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (iQIUe)

442 "Hey, there's a Muslim!"



"Duck!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (NeFrd)

443 Oh, crud - TFG's speaking....

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (NOIQH)

444 Banning Muslim immigration is unworkable in practice and stupid.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (+Fl7e)


It's just amazing how we can vet the living shit out of Syrian refugees coming to America and know everything about them, right down to their fricking shoe size, but when it comes time to figure out whether they're muslim, not only do we have no clue, but getting a clue is completely outside the realm of possibilities.

How fucking convenient that is.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (sl+zA)

445 A group opposing Donald Trump is targeting Mormon voters online with an ad featuring the Republican presidential candidate's wife posing nude.

Pics

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (cXiMR)

446 Jugears kinda got his historic day stepped on, didn't he?

Think everyone with a TV in Cuba is watching?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (U6f54)

447

we have a very good ally who is very good at identifyin freind from foe

ISRAEL


for Gods sake, ask Israel how they profile

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (zOTsN)

448 The idea that you cannot suggest any solution unless you can demonstrate
it is a perfect solution or the best solution is just plain bullshit.



Unless of course you live, work and breathe in an insulated academic bubble where everyone is your friend and the smelly underclass is kept outside the walls.

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (HA9zO)

449 Now if you said "ban immigration from countries with huge violent terrorism problems" then that is at least more workable, is not a stupid religious test, and is more likely to be effective.

Demanding that potential immigrants eat ham sandwiches or whatever is just stupid.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (+Fl7e)

450 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:04 AM (+Fl7e)

---------------------------------

This is the very reason Trump proposes a ban until "Congress figures out the hell what is going on."

Trump knows a ban isn't 100% reliable, at this stage why does it have to be?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (LXJ1e)

451 That's easy enough. Hand 'em a ham sandwich and tell 'em they can come in after they eat it.
Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (4boI/)

Don't make taqiyya delicious

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (xuouz)

452 which is far too broad of a net.


Bzzzt, foul - subjective opinion masquerading as fact.

2 minutes.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (PFy0L)

453

he is not upset at all


you can tell

he does not care

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (zOTsN)

454 Bet the word Muslim never gets said by this asshole, who is now speaking live from Cooooba

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (U6f54)

455 Think everyone with a TV in Cuba is watching?

--

Anyone with a TV in Cuba would have to be a party member, so the answer is yes.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (Qvgg/)

456

still wont say Islamic terrorism

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (zOTsN)

457 why not have them prove they are not.

Posted by: E.T. at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (yq4gk)

Can't prove a negative.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (+Fl7e)

458 Oh, goody - "bring them to justice"
I bet we could write his response based on all the same things he says with every attack. Empty, meaningless words. Like a cliche mad libs.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (NOIQH)

459 Also, who is saying it's Muslim terrorism?

-
It's the Chocolatiers warring against the Waffle-makers for the future of Belgium.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (Nwg0u)

460 Fuckin Fredo is saying nicer things about Cooba than he ever does about Israel....what a fucking dick weed

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (mw8Dm)

461

speaking spanish

asshole

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (zOTsN)

462 I'm not demanding a *perfect* solution. Just one that *works*.
It is not possible in practice to "ban Muslim immigration" because there is no way of knowing for certain who is a Muslim and who is not.
"Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.




Where in the Constitution does it say WE HAVE TO ALLOW MUSLIM IMMIGRATION?

Show your work.



Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (6oPFc)

463 "Because maybe they really are non-Muslims fleeing persecution from
Muslims and we would be sending them back into the hands of their
tormentors? Does that not bother you?"

Remember all the way back, endless aeons ago, uncountable vistas of ages past, in the Before Time, when Darfur was a thing?

When there was a different U.S. president, and there was endless handwringing in the press about how his focus on Iraq and Afghanistan was causing him to overlook the slaughter of civilians in Darfur, and how something simply had to be done about Darfur? Darfur Darfur Darfur, every news cycle?

Amazing how fast Darfur fell off the radar once Barack Obama arrived, is it not? Almost as though the press never really gave a crap and were just using it as agitprop against a non-Democratic incumbent.

Anyway, I had a simple prescription about Darfur at the time, and I repeat it now. That prescription is this: "Guns For Darfur".

It is a principle of broad applicability. If there are non-Muslims anywhere in the world who are being beseiged, kidnapped, raped, and murdered by Muslims, then AIR DROP THEM A BUNCH OF WEAPONS.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (noWW6)

464 451

we have a very good ally who is very good at identifyin freind from foe

ISRAEL


for Gods sake, ask Israel how they profile

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (zOTsN)


Now there's an idea!

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (u0lmX)

465 CJ ... exactly

Posted by: E.T. at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (yq4gk)

466 Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (/D5Lf)

Taqiya allows Muzzies to lie with impugnity. They grow up with that. But they also grow up with the ironclad tabu on pork and I don't think many of them could stomach eating it, even for Mohammed.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (4boI/)

467
chemjeff wishes to operate withing the confines of the rules the Left have imposed upon him. I do not.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (o2321)

468 >>>What the hell is Brexit?

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:07 AM (/D5Lf)

***

British exit from the EU.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (bpn7O)

469 I hope nobody thinks that offering a muzzie pork would be a good test.


Taqiya folks.
Posted by: RWC

We support it.

"The other white meat"

Posted by: National Pork producers Assoc. at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (cXiMR)

470 Safe Zones people, Safe Zones and none of these refugees would have to come here.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:18 AM (mw8Dm)

471 453 Now if you said "ban immigration from countries with huge violent terrorism problems" then that is at least more workable, is not a stupid religious test, and is more likely to be effective.

Demanding that potential immigrants eat ham sandwiches or whatever is just stupid.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (+Fl7e)

---------------------------

So you are saying you are OK with keeping persecuted Christians out?

What is it?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:19 AM (LXJ1e)

472

ASK ISRAEL HOW THEY PROFILE

thats how you do it

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:19 AM (zOTsN)

473 How fucking convenient that is.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (sl+zA)


It doesn't help that our very own State Department advises would be muzzie refugees and immigrants to scrub their social media postings in order to grease the wheels, so to speak, on gaining access to this country.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 22, 2016 09:19 AM (0IhFx)

474 Hillary Clinton 11 minutes ago
These terrorists seek to undermine the democratic values that are the foundation of our way of life. They will never succeed. -H


Wish they would stop with this falsehood as well. They want us dead. Simple as that.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:19 AM (/D5Lf)

475 >>I'm beginning to get the idea that this "tolerance" thing is overrated.

Thoughtcrime. Cavil oldthink unperson MinRec.

Posted by: General Zod at March 22, 2016 09:19 AM (Bdeb0)

476 434 426
The idea that you cannot suggest any solution unless you can demonstrate
it is a perfect solution or the best solution is just plain bullshit.





Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (MQEz6)
I'm not demanding a *perfect* solution. Just one that *works*.
It is not possible in practice to "ban Muslim immigration" because there is no way of knowing for certain who is a Muslim and who is not.
"Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (+Fl7e)

No, it is exactly the right net. Err on the side of caution and make the security of Americans and America your first priority.

No one has the right to enter this country for any reason.

You are indeed demandng a solution that fits all of your boundaries.

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:19 AM (MQEz6)

477 Obama managed to say about 2 sentences in his monotone, who cares? voice before going on to heartfelt thanks to Cuba for the warm welcome. to him and Michelle.

Posted by: Ripley at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (1BQGO)

478 Everything revolves about Fredo...what a fuckin egotist...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (mw8Dm)

479 455 That's easy enough. Hand 'em a ham sandwich and tell 'em they can come in after they eat it.
Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:12 AM (4boI/)

Don't make taqiyya delicious



Taqiyya is talk, not action. They can spout lies all day long. They couldn't convert to Christianity as a "lie".

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (6oPFc)

480 Even the elephants are getting pissed off:

http://bit.ly/1pZTDOC

Posted by: The Bull at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (X5mSF)

481 Sorry, I have to go with the viewpoint that trying to install "Muslim detection" into entry is pointless and unworkable. Anyone remember this little thing called taqiya, anyone? The folks we want to keep out will lie.

Go by place of origin (ultimate, not proximate). Require background checks (and if holes turn up in the check, the answer is "No, out you go"). Limit ALL immigration strictly.

Open borders and unlimited immigration are fools' dreams.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (9krrF)

482 All right folks, gather round, gather round.

Listen, I am sorry to have to announce this but ALL immigration into the United States is cancelled until further notice.

(crowd roars in disapproval)

Yes, I know. It sucks. But you see, the Islamic Terrorists are attacking everyone they fundamentally disagree with and we can't know who is a moderate vs who is a fundamentalist just by looking at you. Besides, you could lie. So, we have no choice but to halt all immigration.

I get it, you're mad. But don't be mad at the US. Be mad at the idiots who are blowing up civilians in airports and bus stations. This is their fault. Period.

Thank you, have a good day.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (2PHKP)

483 Again fredo is burying the cold war ha? To bad nobody told the other side it's over

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (mw8Dm)

484 Oh, goody - "bring them to justice"


Did he mention "the wrong side of history" yet? Cuz that'll make the terrorists embarrassed as hell. You know, to be on the wrong side of history and stuff.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (sl+zA)

485 for Gods sake, ask Israel how they profile
Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (zOTsN)

Yep, they've been living this for decades. They have a working, workable system for ensuring security. Considering they live literally next door to almost two million of the world's most committed jihadis, and have learned to defend themselves on the ground, underground, and in the air, they should be the blueprint.

The left is going to wait and wait and wait and then overreact after we have another attack on the scale of 9/11 or worse. We should get this going NOW.

Liberalism is a passive death cult, the perfect handmaiden to islam's active one.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (xuouz)

486 >>> Yeah, maybe Ted Cruz should have executed Harry Reid on the spot

"Well, at least he could've pummeled him senseless with a cane."

An exercise band.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (noWW6)

487

he is practically kissing thier asses

its all our fault, the cold war'

its all our fault, the embargo

its all our fault, bad relations with Cuba

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (zOTsN)

488 There are folks who think slut shaming Melania Trump is going to drive folks to vote for Ted Cruz in Utah? I work with three Mormon men, lovely people, and I can see them rolling their eyes at this one. But I guess their focus group must have shown it works within the more conservative circles.

Posted by: IC at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (a0IVu)

489
Listen, I am sorry to have to announce this but ALL immigration into the United States is cancelled until further notice.


So just create Fortress America then.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (+Fl7e)

490 It is not possible in practice to "ban Muslim immigration" because there is no way of knowing for certain who is a Muslim and who is not.

Funny ... because America had about ZERO muslims from the time of our creation up until about 25 years ago.

"Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (+Fl7e)


Who cares if it's "too broad"? Aliens have no right to come here. None of them. ANd there are, literally, billions of people who want to come here so we can pick and choose at our leisure and we can over-broad classifications without any problem. That is our luxury and, at this point, a necessity. Do you really not understand that simple concept? Honestly, jeff, do you REALLY not understand that?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (zc3Db)

491 Thoughtcrime. Cavil oldthink unperson MinRec.

Add it to the list. The notifications are better than the three sea shells, anyway.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (9krrF)

492 The more mohammedans enter this country, the more terror attacks we will suffer.

The more terror attacks we suffer, the more there is need of increased surveillance and government intrusion.

It is pretty easy to see why the State Dept has no problem with mohammedans migrating here.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (Qvgg/)

493 so I saw a woman professor walking around this morning with a t-shirt that read "Stop Profiling Muslims"

some people are just terminal

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (X5mSF)

494 Ted could be making serious hay over Gaylord's Cuba trip. Is he?

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (iynDC)

495 We have no obligation to accept ANYONE from ANYWHERE and we are not obligated to extend constitutional rights to non-citizens.

The "give" part of "give and take" is totally invisible to the left.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (xuouz)

496 485
Sorry, I have to go with the viewpoint that trying to install "Muslim
detection" into entry is pointless and unworkable. Anyone remember this
little thing called taqiya, anyone? The folks we want to keep out will lie.



Go by place of origin (ultimate, not proximate). Require background
checks (and if holes turn up in the check, the answer is "No, out you
go"). Limit ALL immigration strictly.



Open borders and unlimited immigration are fools' dreams.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (9krrF)

Thank you. I completely agree with that.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (+Fl7e)

497 is this another chemjeff thread?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (X5mSF)

498 48 Trump is on PMSNBC pointing out that we need to waterboard the asshole that they caught earlier in Belgium

So on the one hand Europe needs to pay for their own defense but on the other hand we should take foreign terrorists who commit crimes in Europe into US custody for interrogation?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (r4Ma1)

499 >>Obama managed to say about 2 sentences in his monotone, who cares? voice
before going on to heartfelt thanks to Cuba for the warm welcome. to
him and Michelle.


It really is striking, isn't it?
The change in tone and emotion between the robotic string of cliches about a terrorist attack vs. warm words for Cuba (did he say it was a dream of his to visit - I wasn't playing close attention)?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (NOIQH)

500 Israel's profiling is different. They are looking for short term anxiety and stress before a incident -- not long term predilection. They train hard to actively question and ferret out the signals of stress. Those methods aren't going to work on immigrants, they are designed to catch terrorists.

Posted by: National Pork producers Assoc. at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (cXiMR)

501 "Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (+Fl7e)


Yeah again that's bullshit and a democratic talking point.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (mw8Dm)

502 ChemJeff's arguments remind me of death penalty opponents who say that unless you can know with metaphysical certainty 100% of the time if a person is guilty, you should just tank the entire death penalty.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks, proudly wearing the 'Andrew Branca Called You An Asshat' label at March 22, 2016 09:23 AM (PFy0L)

503 So just create Fortress America then.
Posted by: chemjeff





Where in the Constitution does it say WE HAVE TO ALLOW MUSLIM IMMIGRATION?

Show your work.


Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:23 AM (6oPFc)

504
is this another chemjeff thread?

He, evidently, enjoys the the barrel.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:23 AM (o2321)

505 is this another chemjeff thread?
Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (X5mSF)

They can play the advertisements, Feh, but they can't make you watch them.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:23 AM (xuouz)

506 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (Qvgg/)

Rarely have I seen an issue distilled to its essence as you have done here.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (4boI/)

507
The Brits will vote on June 23, I think, to stay or leave the EU. Expect a lot of shit to happen.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (iQIUe)

508 "Fredo is saying nicer things about Cooba than he ever does about Israel..."

If you pronounce the name of a country like they say it in their country it proves how worldly and intelligent you are. Unlike knuckledusters that use the common and widely accepted English pronunciations.

Posted by: Ripley at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (1BQGO)

509 "for Gods sake, ask Israel how they profile"

There's an interview somewhere out there on the net, with the guy who personally designed the Israeli airport security system that has been in use since the 1970s. He thinks the American and European versions are total jokes.

And he said that the Israeli system openly, unapologetically uses ethnic and religious profiling. It's impossible to make the security system work otherwise.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (noWW6)

510 If you look like a muslim and have a muslim-sounding name and want come and live in America, well, IT SUCKS TO BE YOU.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (sl+zA)

511 Who cares if it's "too broad"? Aliens have no right
to come here. None of them. ANd there are, literally, billions of
people who want to come here so we can pick and choose at our leisure
and we can over-broad classifications without any problem. That is our
luxury and, at this point, a necessity. Do you really not understand
that simple concept? Honestly, jeff, do you REALLY not understand that?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (zc3Db)

I am not arguing the legality of stopping immigrants from coming here. Yes we could legally just create Fortress America and not let anyone come in at all. I'm not disputing that this is a legal remedy. I am disputing the propriety of it. To stop everyone from coming in because of the threats from a murderous few is a vastly overbroad reaction to this problem.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (+Fl7e)

512 "fortress America"?

we don't even have "grass hut in the middle of the Serengeti America"

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (X5mSF)

513 Israel's profiling is different. They are looking for short term anxiety and stress before a incident -- not long term predilection. They train hard to actively question and ferret out the signals of stress. Those methods aren't going to work on immigrants, they are designed to catch terrorists.
Posted by: National Pork producers Assoc. at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (cXiMR)

yeah that not's true. Yes they search for stress and the such, but they also have HUGE databases to know EXACTLY who they are questioning, where they come from, who they know, and on and on.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (mw8Dm)

514 Chemjeff's not saying don't try, he's just pointing out that particular approach won't work. No magic bullets, as it were. And he's right.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (9krrF)

515 If the US and the entire world would just stop identifying islam as a religion and label it exactly what it is: a political movement, then it could be freely fought and defeated instead of surviving and thriving by hiding behind the ideals of tolerance and religious freedom.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (oQQwD)

516 >>Listen, I am sorry to have to announce this but ALL immigration into the United States is cancelled until further notice.


"We're closed, folks! Moose out front should have told you."

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (NOIQH)

517 "I'm not demanding a *perfect* solution. Just one that *works*.
It
is not possible in practice to "ban Muslim immigration" because there
is no way of knowing for certain who is a Muslim and who is not.
"Banning
Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks
Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.


Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (+Fl7e)"


Your second sentence contradicts your first. (I am ignoring the sentence fragment.)

If you require a certain way to know who is and who is not a Muslim, you are asking for a perfect solution.

How about a method that is 80% effective. Is that good enough?

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (QHgTq)

518 >>>The idea that you cannot suggest any solution unless you can demonstrate it is a perfect solution or the best solution is just plain bullshit.

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:13 AM (MQEz6)

***

Perfection as the enemy of good enough.

It's a childish sort of thing, isn't it?

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (bpn7O)

519 When we lose another three or ten thousand citizens due to our refugee program, at least we can comfort ourselves with the knowledge ChemJeff, Cruz and Hillary feel better about themselves.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (PcMP6)

520
Where in the Constitution does it say WE HAVE TO ALLOW MUSLIM IMMIGRATION?



Show your work.




It doesn't say that we HAVE to allow any immigration. I'm not claiming that it does.


I am disputing the propriety of doing so, not the legality of doing so.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (+Fl7e)

521
Yeah, let's at least start with the Three Mohammed Rule.

Can you at least agree with that, chemjeff?

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (o2321)

522
Oh, goody - "bring them to justice"
Posted by: Lizzy




Remember when we were the "top priority"?

So, you guys still looking for us or what?

Posted by: Hundreds of Kidnapped Nigerian Schoolgirls


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (kdS6q)

523 Sorry, I have to go with the viewpoint that trying to install "Muslim
detection" into entry is pointless and unworkable. Anyone remember this
little thing called taqiya, anyone? The folks we want to keep out will lie.

Go by place of origin (ultimate, not proximate). Require background
checks (and if holes turn up in the check, the answer is "No, out you
go"). Limit ALL immigration strictly.

Open borders and unlimited immigration are fools' dreams.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (9krrF)

Once again, He Who Shall Not Be Named got this right from the start.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (xuouz)

524 Israel's profiling is different. They are looking for short term anxiety and stress before a incident -- not long term predilection. They train hard to actively question and ferret out the signals of stress. Those methods aren't going to work on immigrants, they are designed to catch terrorists.

Posted by: National Pork producers Assoc.


no

there is more

much more

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (zOTsN)

525
501
is this another chemjeff thread?


*sigh*

Posted by: alt-right,toothless drug addled hillbilly strawmen at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (HA9zO)

526 502 48 Trump is on PMSNBC pointing out that we need to waterboard the asshole that they caught earlier in Belgium

So on the one hand Europe needs to pay for their own defense but on the other hand we should take foreign terrorists who commit crimes in Europe into US custody for interrogation?

- - -

Did he say 'America' or 'we'? There's a difference.

Posted by: Community Organizer at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (9VLhN)

527 Listening to Obama in Cuba now...

You know, he could have been a good president.

If only he wasn't such a classless, smartass, racist prick.

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (Zs4uk)

528 "To stop everyone from coming in because of the threats from a murderous few is a vastly overbroad reaction to this problem."

no, not really

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (X5mSF)

529 "Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:15 AM (+Fl7e)


Yeah again that's bullshit and a democratic talking point.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:22 AM (mw8Dm)

Just bring immigration to a complete halt. Zero, zip, none until we can sort all this shit out.

Problem solved.

Or is that being rayciss against the whole world??? Sheesh.

Posted by: Blano at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (sdPF/)

530
I am disputing the propriety of doing so


Good lord, Who farking cares?

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (o2321)

531 >>so I saw a woman professor walking around this morning with a t-shirt that read "Stop Profiling Muslims"

You could have fixed it for her with a Sharpie -- changing STOP to START -- but that probably would have ended badly for you.

Posted by: Scout at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (fCWi3)

532 I no longer care for propriety if it Trumps common sense

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (zOTsN)

533 I am disputing the propriety of doing so, not the legality of doing so.



Fuck propriety.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (6oPFc)

534 A fumi-e was a likeness of Jesus or Mary upon which the religious authorities of the Tokugawa shogunate of Japan required suspected Christians to step on in order to prove that they were not members of that outlawed religion

*just found it interesting

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (/D5Lf)

535

"Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net.


So what?

Are Americans the only ones who have to surrender their rights in order to be safe?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 09:27 AM (LUgeY)

536 485 Sorry, I have to go with the viewpoint that trying to install "Muslim detection" into entry is pointless and unworkable. Anyone remember this little thing called taqiya, anyone? The folks we want to keep out will lie.

Go by place of origin (ultimate, not proximate). Require background checks (and if holes turn up in the check, the answer is "No, out you go"). Limit ALL immigration strictly.

Open borders and unlimited immigration are fools' dreams.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:20 AM (9krrF)

----------------------------------

I favor and "all of the above" approach.

However, investigators can be trained to detect liars. If there is a suspicion that one is lying deny them entry.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:27 AM (LXJ1e)

537 I have said this before - surveillance in their place of worship/mosques - Muslim countries do this already. When I was still living in Malaysia, the ruling party kept strict tabs on mosques to weed out dissident factions within the Muslim community. Indonesia does this too. You could get a lot of information from Friday noon sermons and water cooler talk. I don't know if Europe does this now (maybe they will after this). According to Guiliani, they were doing this in NY post 9/11 but Obama pulled the plug on the program.

Posted by: IC at March 22, 2016 09:27 AM (a0IVu)

538 Can someone explain to me the difference between 'nickelfucker' and 'chickenfucker'? I think I know it but it's more of a gut feeling than a specific definition and they're pretty much the same, right?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:28 AM (xuouz)

539 Just bring immigration to a complete halt. Zero, zip, none until we can sort all this shit out.

Problem solved.

Or is that being rayciss against the whole world??? Sheesh.
Posted by: Blano at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (sdPF/)


We don't have to bring it to a total halt that is a fallacy. We can and should tighten up our immigration laws and standards. It is not that hard folks...just common sense and profiling

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:28 AM (mw8Dm)

540 I am disputing the propriety of doing so, not the legality of doing so.




Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (+Fl7e)

And this is where you lost me. This isn't high tea. This is life-and-death. You don't seem to understand that.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:28 AM (4boI/)

541 But I have a right to live in a Benetton Ad World! It's so unfair that all these stupid meanies are RUINING IT for those of us who have Diversity bumper stickers on our cars!!!!

Posted by: Every Millenial Everywhere at March 22, 2016 09:28 AM (fCWi3)

542 let's imagine chemjeff's perspective as the ruling perspective at the federal unit charged with stopping the spread of infectious deadly disease

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:29 AM (X5mSF)

543 I love visiting Cooba. The smooth bottomed Cuban cabana boys have long been a dream of mine.

Posted by: Barry at March 22, 2016 09:29 AM (b3p08)

544 Maybe keep a pile of korans around in a display that "desecrates" it and check reactions. Or moo-ham-it cartoons, that usually riles them up, hard to hide that.

Posted by: lindafell de spair at March 22, 2016 09:29 AM (xVgrA)

545 and now Europe is full of Muslim imperialist colonies, which look to be intractable

that is Division, and it will mean war

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (X5mSF)

546

Can someone explain to me the difference between 'nickelfucker' and 'chickenfucker'? I think I know it but it's more of a gut feeling than a specific definition and they're pretty much the same, right?

I'll tell you the difference.

For a nickel.

Posted by: The Chicken at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (LUgeY)

547 I am not arguing the legality of stopping immigrants from coming here. Yes we could legally just create Fortress America and not let anyone come in at all. I'm not disputing that this is a legal remedy.

Conversing with you becomes more ridiculous and more tedious every day. "not let anyone come in at all"?? The whole world isn't friggin muzzie, no matter how much you wish it were.

I am disputing the propriety of it. To stop everyone from coming in because of the threats from a murderous few is a vastly overbroad reaction to this problem.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (+Fl7e)


"stop everyone"?? Stop with the bullshit. Your infantile arguments are intellectually offensive.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (zc3Db)

548 And posed for a photo op in front a huge likeness of Che.


Asshole.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 08:53 AM (8XRCm)

THAT was unforgiveable

---

we'll be lucky if he doesn't come home with Che t-shirts for the whole family

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (oGRue)

549 I am finding it really hard to sympathize with Belgium and am surprised Germany has not been hit yet. I guess they are too busy raping the innocent to get any more feisty.

If you invite the rabid dog in you ought to expect to get bitten.

Posted by: turambar at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (vC6Bj)

550 To pretend that the First amendment is not an issue in regard to banning Muslim immigration is disingenuous. It's just not that simple and makes all other strict support of the ideals of the other amendments come into question. It's as much a quandary to me as supporting the right of hate speech of the KKK or Westboro Baptists.

I do believe we can limit immigration from certain countries and vet those coming from Europe for terrorism ties but I don't think we should have a blanket ban based on a religious test.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (2d71x)

551 "I am disputing the propriety of doing so"

If you have a lock on the front door of your home or apartment, I am disputing your logic.

Posted by: USA at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (tfM+W)

552 A recent poll showed that 25% percent of Muslims openly supported terrorism as a means of advancing their cause. 25% of 1.2 billion people is 300 million people, which was the ENTIRE population of the United States on 9/11/2001.

Openly supported, not including those who secretly supported.

Posted by: CrustyB at March 22, 2016 09:31 AM (GvSpB)

553 we'll be lucky if he doesn't come home with Che t-shirts for the whole family

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (oGRue)



I went to Cubs to kiss commie ass and all I got was this Che t-shirt

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 09:31 AM (493sH)

554 525
Yeah, let's at least start with the Three Mohammed Rule.

Can you at least agree with that, chemjeff?

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (o2321)

Yeah. If any of your names happens to be Mohammed, you can't come in. That's a huge percentage of Muslim males right there.

I know a guy from Egypt whose last name is Joseph. He's not a Muslim but a Christian.

Come up with a list of common Muzzie names and a list of common Christian names.

Or hire known Christians from the Mideast to help with the vetting.

We might have difficulty telling middle-eastern Christians from Muslims but they themselves seem to have no such trouble - which is why Christians are being slaughtered in UN camps.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present moment) at March 22, 2016 09:31 AM (u0lmX)

555 Hey chemjeff, go stand in the broken glass in Brussels and weave your sophist tapestry, see how impressed everyone is with your intellectual plate spinning.

I'll never forget 9/11.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:31 AM (xuouz)

556 >>Remember when we were the "top priority"? So, you guys still looking for us or what?
Posted by: Hundreds of Kidnapped Nigerian Schoolgirls


Yes, that one makes me so angry. They keep "finding" them when they've been strapped w/bombs and sent into populated places like markets.
No one word from the Obamas, the press or any of the celebrity caring carer's who tweeted sad-face photos about "our girls." Not any acknowledgment that it wasn't about holding girls back from school, it was about murdering Christians, with young school children not being off-limits from their brutality. The girls were/are kidnapped (the boys murdered) because they have a special use for them as wives/slaves and as suicide bombers.

Uh, sorry for the rant. So tired of them pretending evil isn't right in front of them, laughing at their cowardice.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:32 AM (NOIQH)

557 chemjeff is right about one thing

if we screen out Muslims, they'll find other ways to get in

chemjeff, do you realize then that the problem, at root, is the divinely sanctioned supremacism of the Koran?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:32 AM (X5mSF)

558 I don't get the Bill Clinton smackdown of Obama. You'd think with the FBI itching to indict Hills, he'd keep his mouth shut and not give O a reason to give the green light.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:32 AM (0LHZx)

559 Cuba not Cubs

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 09:32 AM (493sH)

Posted by: The Good Muslims Who Just Want To Assimilate, Work and Study Chemistry in Peace at March 22, 2016 09:32 AM (HA9zO)

561 So what would be a method that is "80% effective" at detecting Muslims?

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:33 AM (+Fl7e)

562 Open borders =EU. It is right there, in front of us, and only a fool doesn't see how that's working out. Honest to God, doesn't it make you sick to hear how our ruling class and their enablers like to dance around the issue?

Posted by: kraken at March 22, 2016 09:33 AM (sdxPm)

563 #JeSuisTiredOfThisShit

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 08:23 AM (iQIUe)

carry bacon bits and sprinkle it on them

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 22, 2016 09:33 AM (0O7c5)

564 is a vastly overbroad reaction to this problem.
Posted by: chemjeff

You realize they haven't even finished picking up the bodies in Brussels yet.

Less than 100 years ago, when faced with a murderous ethic and religious ideology -- American liberals threw everyone remotely connected into camps and nuked them.

Shutting down immigration isn't even close to the limits of what our reaction could be.

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 09:33 AM (cXiMR)

565 chemjeff is right about one thing

if we screen out Muslims, they'll find other ways to get in

----

Well.... fuck then. Game over .... we lose. Cant do nothing to change the situation.

Convert or die.


Jesus... we're beginning to deserve to get overrun.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:34 AM (8XRCm)

566 oops....that was a copy and paste from way earlier

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 22, 2016 09:34 AM (0O7c5)

567 To stop everyone from coming in because of the threats from a murderous few is a vastly overbroad reaction to this problem.

Perhaps, but taken in the context of immigrants crowding out locals for jobs, poorly restricted flow of disease, criminal elements coming and going as they please, and general malfeasance in the programs, it makes a great candidate for "last straw".

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:34 AM (9krrF)

568
Hey! I just wanted to let you know-

I plan to sign amnesty within 24 hrs of taking the office of the President.

Yup. I plan to codify the presence of muslim terrorists in our midst.

Because they're all made in God's image...even when they're killing and raping your children!

So, please vote for me.

We must defeat the madman Trump!

...

...

...

Also, please consider joining the

Church of Kasichology(TM)

for services and worship the Great Potato.

Posted by: John Kasich at March 22, 2016 09:34 AM (0cMkb)

569 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:32 AM (0LHZx)

Maybe Bill's already got the word that Hillary is going to be indicted and he's striking a pre-emptive blow.

Or maybe he's just senile.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:34 AM (4boI/)

570
"We're closed, folks! Moose out front should have told you."


Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:25 AM (NOIQH)

LOL!

Where chemjeff is getting it wrong is that there isn't a solution to the problem that doesn't start with halting all immigration, period. You cannot tell who is a fundi muslim. Because of that, you can't just target certain religions. So you have to go wider. Wider is everyone. Period.

Since we are fighting a war were we are essentially trying to stomp on cockroaches in the kitchen after flipping on the lights, we're losing. There are hundreds more in the walls. Everyone we kill has bred ten more.

You have two choices. Defend Americans by stopping the people from getting in or start making the choice to blow up innocents such a BAD choice that they decide against it, i.e., you start making the response worse than they can handle.
Japan was very stubborn and had no intentions of ending the war until we made the idea of continuing the war far worse.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (2PHKP)

571 Hi everyo-OW!
Who's the jackass who spread caltrops everywhere?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW PI at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (uhftQ)

572 Western defense against muzzies does not depend on cracking iphones. The government is leaning on that excuse so that they don't have to do their actual job and point out that muzzies are the problem, not iphones.

Quoted for truth. If we'd get off the stupid PC kick about Muslims and reinstate things like the NYPD's surveillance of radical Muslims it would protect us far more than letting Obama and Reggie see everyone's dick pics.

The phone in question was the guy's work-provided business-use-only phone, and the FBI already has all the calls and texts made from that one from Verizon. His *personal* phone he shredded before making the attacks, and that's likely the one he did his jihad business on.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (KUTP5)

573 Israelis, who looks very Arab in some cases, seem to have no problem figuring out who is a terrorist and who isn't

it can be done

we know how to do it

the only issue is do we have the political will to do it

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (zOTsN)

574 It's going to be sunny and cool today. I hate sun. When it's sunny all the time it's just depressing.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (iQIUe)

575 >>Can someone explain to me the difference between 'nickelfucker' and 'chickenfucker'?

They're Wehrmacht ranks.

Gefreiter
Oberleutnant
Nickelfucker
Obernickelfucker
Sturmbahnfuhrer
Chickenfucker
Hauptmannickelfucker

Posted by: General Zod at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (Bdeb0)

576 distinction without a difference

banning on the basis of country of origin often *is* a religious test because many of those countries have established Islam as the state religion and have purged themselves of Christians, Jews, and everything else

look at the problem head-on

Islam is an imperialist, supremacist, murderous cult

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (X5mSF)

577
chemjeff, you are working the US border. A refugee named Mohammed Al-Achmed Mohammed comes to you for entry. He appears to be 25 years old.

What do you do?

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (o2321)

578 The CNN optics of Obama's Cuba speech are unbelievable. Split screen showing the Belgium attacks on one side and Obama yapping about Cuba whilst grinning periodically.

Posted by: Semi-engaged scroller at March 22, 2016 09:36 AM (LQLeS)

579 "566
So what would be a method that is "80% effective" at detecting Muslims?


Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:33 AM (+Fl7e)"

Well there are two kinds of errors: false negatives and false positives.

Pull down their pants and see if they are circumcised will be pretty close to 100% effective at denying access to Muslims but will have a fairly high false positive rate.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 09:36 AM (QHgTq)

580 Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:24 AM (+Fl7e)

"stop everyone"?? Stop with the bullshit. Your infantile arguments are intellectually offensive.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (zc3Db)

___

ChemJeff, plays the libtard game of taking a reasonable request and responding to it as if it were the extreme version.

Eg:

I think we should trim the size of govt?

Libtard: Why don't you move to Somalia then, where there is no govt at all, you'll love it there

on immigration

I think we need to limit immigration, especially immigration from countries that hate us

ChemJeff: So you want to send Muslims to concentration camps?!!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (0LHZx)

581 Open borders =EU. It is right there, in front of us, and only a fool doesn't see how that's working out. Honest to God, doesn't it make you sick to hear how our ruling class and their enablers like to dance around the issue?
Posted by: kraken at March 22, 2016 09:33 AM (sdxPm)

The simple binary of security vs a lack of security, safety vs living in fear, may well end up superseding the economy as the issue of the election.

All of the finely calibrated nickelfucking in the world can't change the fact that jihadists need to be swiftly and dispassionately killed.

Voters will not care about the hair or the language or the past bankruptcies of the person who, in a binary, two-party election, promises them this instead of wheedling away at some excuse for not biting the bullet and solving the problem.

And they will be right. They will be right to do so.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (xuouz)

582 We I go to the DecisionDesk, it is still 15 Mar upcoming? http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/

Posted by: Baldy at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (1SCTq)

583 Or hire known Christians from the Mideast to help with the vetting.

We might have difficulty telling middle-eastern Christians from Muslims but they themselves seem to have no such trouble - which is why Christians are being slaughtered in UN camps.
Posted by: Donna and V.


See, creative solutions. Now do that IN SYRIA long before they even get to Turkey or Jordan and we might have the beginning of a plan.

Posted by: Jean at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (cXiMR)

584

it requires HUMINT, it requires profiling, it requires spying, it require infiltration

do we have the will

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (zOTsN)

585 I don't get the Bill Clinton smackdown of Obama. You'd think with the FBI itching to indict Hills, he'd keep his mouth shut and not give O a reason to give the green light.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:32 AM (0LHZx)
-------------------

A spokeshole later "clarified" it as referring to the ongoing 7.5-year nightmare of relentless -- and effective! -- Republican obstructionism (somehow despite the fact that the entire legislature was also Democrat from 2009-2011).

Posted by: iforgot at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (pC96u)

586 "doesn't it make you sick to hear how our ruling class and their enablers like to dance around the issue?"

i moved past "sick" in favor of subversion after Beslan

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (X5mSF)

587 but I don't think we should have a blanket ban based on a religious test.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

of course you don't. you plan on voting for Hillary. because you're conservative.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (nFwvY)

588 I'd rather be a living, breathing Islamophobe than a Blowed-the-Fuck-Up Progressive Multiculturist.

Posted by: Weasel at March 22, 2016 09:38 AM (6xtq3)

589 >>I don't get the Bill Clinton smackdown of Obama. You'd think with the
FBI itching to indict Hills, he'd keep his mouth shut and not give O a
reason to give the green light.

What makes you think he wants to keep her at home? He's so narcisstic, I bet it's making him half-crazy that Hillary is getting all the attention. He's probably ready to drop her off at the fed pen with cigarette money and promises to visit on Christmas.

Posted by: Scout at March 22, 2016 09:38 AM (fCWi3)

590 So what would be a method that is "80% effective" at detecting Muslims?


Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:33 AM (+Fl7e)"

____

Ahh the old "if a process doesn't work 100% of the time, don't bother with it". Also see, "we can't build a wall, because it won't keep 100% of the people out, so why bother?" argument from Chemmie.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:38 AM (0LHZx)

591 The U.S. issued 680,000 green cards to migrants from Muslim-majority
countries in the five-year period encompassing 2009 through 2013,
according to Department of Homeland Security data




how could we possibly control this...

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 09:38 AM (HA9zO)

592 We don't have to bring it to a total halt that is a fallacy. We can and should tighten up our immigration laws and standards. It is not that hard folks...just common sense and profiling
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:28 AM (mw8Dm)

If someone actually tried to do what you suggest, that would be fine. I don't see it happening though, unless the Donald can pull it off.

Muslim terrorists. Illegal alien criminals. H1B abuse. I'm sure there are others. Solving all these issues requires radical action. It's probably too late.

Posted by: Blano at March 22, 2016 09:38 AM (uiVGU)

593 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (0LHZx)

Yep. He debates like a 5 year old.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 09:38 AM (zc3Db)

594 Who's the jackass who spread caltrops everywhere?

Posted by: Tilikum KAW PI at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (uhftQ)


Gotta get up earlier folks...

Posted by: IP at March 22, 2016 09:38 AM (aQQbl)

595 he is practically kissing thier asses

its all our fault, the cold war'

its all our fault, the embargo

its all our fault, bad relations with Cuba

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:21 AM (zOTsN)



I wouldn't expect anything thing different from that anti-American, commie, son of a whore

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 09:39 AM (493sH)

596 You realize they haven't even finished picking up the bodies in Brussels yet.

Less than 100 years ago, when faced with a murderous ethic and religious ideology -- American liberals threw everyone remotely connected into camps and nuked them.

Shutting down immigration isn't even close to the limits of what our reaction could be.
Posted by: Jean



Print this on Avery 3x4 labels and post EVERYWHERE.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:39 AM (6oPFc)

597 Unless of course we want to come up with the equivalent of fumi-e for Muslims.

I guess we really do have to repeat every mistake and bad idea endlessly instead of simply going with things that actually have a chance of working.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:39 AM (9krrF)

598 So I am still waiting to hear of a reliable test to decide if a person really is a Muslim or not, so that we know who to ban and who not to ban.

---

a Koran toilet toss test?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2016 09:39 AM (oGRue)

599
Mirtasabine*

If a bomb went off near me, one of the first things I'd likely say is "DEAR GOD!" so if Muslims in the area did say "Allahu Akbar!"- *shrug*

*Anarchist trans woman loves sci-fi (esp. cyberpunk), video games, synth music. Should do well under the Caliphate.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 09:39 AM (kdS6q)

600 Who is this cairjeff, and how do I subscribe to his newsletter on the Great Wheel?

Posted by: Calypso Louie at March 22, 2016 09:39 AM (SjtTh)

601 ATTENTION ATTENTION PLEASE

BC and I's podcast is up!

http://bit.ly/1pH9sd2

It's. Um. Long. Like. Over 2 hours long. I blame BC of course.

YOU GO LISTEN NOW!

Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (mf5HN)

602 but I don't think we should have a blanket ban based on a religious test.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck

----

Well if you understood Islam... its also a political system, its also a legal system, and by and large a social system.

But... keep telling youself its "just a religion".

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (8XRCm)

603 Oh, goody - "bring them to justice"
I bet we could write his response based on all the same things he says with every attack. Empty, meaningless words. Like a cliche mad libs.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:17 AM (NOIQH)



They should be careful. He might wave his limp wrist at them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (493sH)

604 >>>Fuck propriety.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:26 AM (6oPFc)

***

When "propriety" becomes "suicide pact", it really has to go.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (bpn7O)

605 Oooooooh. Obama has now expressed his outrage at the Belgium terror attacks. I feel so much safer now!

Meanwhile, the importation into the U.S. of hundreds of thousands of un-vettable muslims from third-world islamic cesspools continues unabated.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (df5V4)

606 581
chemjeff, you are working the US border. A refugee named Mohammed Al-Achmed Mohammed comes to you for entry. He appears to be 25 years old.

What do you do?
Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:35 AM (o2321)

_____

He appears to be 25, but will claim to be 15 in order to get automatic asylum.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (0LHZx)

607 So what would be a method that is "80% effective" at detecting Muslims?

--

1. Ban immigration from any country where the government does not cooperate with the US and vet their own immigrants.

2. Allow only limited immigration from any country whose police and intelligence agencies provide documentation on each and every potential immigrant.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (Qvgg/)

608 I think we need to limit immigration, especially immigration from countries that hate us
ChemJeff: So you want to send Muslims to concentration camps?!!!
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (0LHZx)

This sad creature will hem and haw until a chemical, biological, or nuclear attack, and then HE will be the one advocating for internment and forcible resettlement.

Look to Israel right now. They have been grappling with this problem for generations. And it is shit, wall to wall. We can avoid it entirely by banning all muslims.

Or if that bothers you, all immigration from muslim countries.

Or, if that doesn't suit you either, banning all immigration from everywhere.

But the point is, we have no obligation to admit ANYONE to our country. And in fact we have a moral imperative not to allow this sadistic ideology to take root here any more than it already has. And it has.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:40 AM (xuouz)

609 we'll be lucky if he doesn't come home with Che t-shirts for the whole family

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2016 09:30 AM (oGRue)

He and his entourage of 1200.

12 fucking hundred.

What an asshole.

Posted by: RWC - Team TTBTFW at March 22, 2016 09:41 AM (/D5Lf)

610 Is anyone starting to notice that the attacks by Islamic terrorists are essentially death by a thousand cuts?

If they hit major targets ever month or couple of weeks, people would finally get so fucking tired of it we'd actually join up as a world army to curb stomp them into oblivion.

Instead, it's a trickle. Small attacks, over and over and over. People get pissed, a few hashtag campaigns and then everyone goes right back to their lives.

That's how you win a war against a vastly superior force. Slow burn.

Sun Tzu would be proud.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:41 AM (2PHKP)

611 I don't get the Bill Clinton smackdown of Obama. You'd think with the FBI itching to indict Hills, he'd keep his mouth shut and not give O a reason to give the green light.

He's warning O off, I think. Every time there's been a development in the FBI's case, Bill or Chelsea have said something anti-Obama. And I'd be shocked if the Clintons didn't have a nuclear dossier on TFG. Maybe even pictures of him with Reggie. Or Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 22, 2016 09:41 AM (KUTP5)

612 Hardly a mention from Fredo..then goes on to love him some Coobin commie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:42 AM (mw8Dm)

613 Says here your from Syria

"yes"

Are you a Muslim?

"no"

What religion are you?

"Christian"

Do you go to church? (if no reject)

"yes"

What church? (if cannot say, reject)

"Coptic"

Who is your priest? (if cannot say, reject)

"Priest xxxxxx"

Who is your bishop? (if cannot say, reject)

"Bishop xxxxx"

Recite the apostle's creed. (if cannot, reject)

"I believe..."

Are your parent's Christian? (if no, reject)

"Yes"


---------------------------------------

On and on. As someone posted above, people who live in the areas can sort each other out. We can develop a process too.

And if it's not 100% effective, so what? We record all the interviews and when a failure occurs we find the root cause and improve the process.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:42 AM (LXJ1e)

614 but I don't think we should have a blanket ban based on a religious test.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck
of course you don't. you plan on voting for Hillary. because you're conservative.
Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (nFwvY)


Don't worry Joe, I have some calamine lotion and an icepack for that burn.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:42 AM (xuouz)

615 Havana Trip. Diplomacy or Refresher Course?

Posted by: USA at March 22, 2016 09:42 AM (tfM+W)

616 581
chemjeff, you are working the US border. A refugee named Mohammed Al-Achmed Mohammed comes to you for entry. He appears to be 25 years old.

What do you do?

************


As helpful as chemjeff is, I would think he would point out to Mohammed that it smells like some fuel oil has seeped into the load of fertilizer he is hauling.

Better get that looked at.

Then he would write out the directions to the elementary school Mohammed is looking for, reminding him to wait until the children are there before delivering his cargo, because kids love trucks.

We can depend on people like Chemjeff to do the right thing.

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 09:42 AM (Zs4uk)

617
Max Boot*

Problem in EU is failure to assimilate Muslim immigrants. US has done better job, but Trump attacks alienate Muslims AND threaten security.

*Max Boot was a senior foreign policy adviser to John McCain in 2007-2008, a defense policy adviser to Mitt Romney in 2011-2012, and a foreign policy adviser to Marco Rubio.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (kdS6q)

618 Notice this blog has been running on time for the first time in ages? EMT, Dump, etc.

Yes but with significant reductions in service....

First Ace posts at 3pm
No more DOOM
No more late morning art thread
No new podcast in 2 weeks

What's Ace doing with all those subscription payments ?!

Posted by: McCool at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (nCSwS)

619 Fredo worried aobut "Burden" of sanctions on Cooban People?

What Country is this fuck the President of again?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (mw8Dm)

620 I don't believe this.

The responses I'm seeing to chemjeff are so far past tendentious and retarded the light from tendentious and retarded won't arrive until sometime in the 34th Century.

For God's sake people, a "just Muslims" test isn't feasible. Other methods will work quite well and solve other issues as well without going down that primrose path.

Defense in depth is the best way. But be ready for what that entails.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (9krrF)

621 616
Hardly a mention from Fredo..then goes on to love him some Coobin commie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:42 AM (mw8Dm)


Can't miss his scheduled baseball game. Maybe he's scouting for the Cubs.
Just when you think he can't get any worse, he lowers the bar.

Posted by: Tami at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (v0/PR)

622 And I'd be shocked if the Clintons didn't have a nuclear dossier on TFG. Maybe even pictures of him with Reggie. Or Mitch McConnell.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 22, 2016 09:41 AM (KUTP5)

___

Dude!! Come on. It's still the breakfast hour on the west coast.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (0LHZx)

623 559
Hey chemjeff, go stand in the broken glass in Brussels and weave your
sophist tapestry, see how impressed everyone is with your intellectual
plate spinning.



I'll never forget 9/11.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:31 AM (xuouz)

Yeah yeah I knew it, anyone who dares to suggest that not everyone is a Muslim terrorist gets 9/11 thrown in their faces

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (+Fl7e)

624 What are the chances we get a morning Ace sighting today?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (KUaJL)

625 Max Boot is full of shite.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (iQIUe)

626 Preznit Springio Breakio annoyed that some are calling for him to cut Cuba short and head to Brussels.

Shit, he needs to play some rounds at Club Raul, as planned. Right?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (U6f54)

627 "I don't get the Bill Clinton smackdown of Obama."

Billy Jeff is old and sick. Probably dying. He's starting to ramble incoherently. Hard to parse that as being a deliberate slight.

But hey, if it can be spun to furious black Democratic voters as a deliberate diss of Historic First? OK, let's go with that.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (noWW6)

628 when we went on vacation to Israel, El Al asked

religion

if Jewish, what synagogue

what rabbi

was I a convert

who are we visiting, how long, where staying

why are we coming

are we going to religious sites

my husband is Jewish but if he is tan can look arabish


they do not fuck around

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (zOTsN)

629 Maybe he's scouting for the Cubs.
Just when you think he can't get any worse, he lowers the bar.
Posted by: Tami at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (v0/PR)

As if him and and his skrawny ass is ever going back to Chicago

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (mw8Dm)

630 What's Ace doing with all those subscription payments ?!
Posted by: McCool at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (nCSwS)

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Donations to Kaisich 2016??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (8XRCm)

631 He and his entourage of 1200.


They might just tip over the island !!!

Posted by: Hank Johnson at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (nCSwS)

632 502 48 Trump is on PMSNBC pointing out that we need to waterboard the asshole that they caught earlier in Belgium

So on the one hand Europe needs to pay for their own defense but on the other hand we should take foreign terrorists who commit crimes in Europe into US custody for interrogation?

-----------
I don't see these as differing points at all. Maybe the Belgians could pay us by the gallon?

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (kXzR8)

633 Yeah yeah I knew it, anyone who dares to suggest that not everyone is a Muslim terrorist gets 9/11 thrown in their faces
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (+Fl7e)

Where have I seen that logic before?

Posted by: USA at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (tfM+W)

634

a commercial airline from Israel does a better job keeping out terrorists than the entire Dept of Homeland Security

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (zOTsN)

635 Ted Cruz really blew it at his presser today and thus once again Trump beats Cruz to a policy position that is obvious to anyone who has ever read the Quran and aHadith.

It is real simple:

1. If you want to stop jihadist attacks in your country you must stop Muslim immigration into your country.

2. The truth remains the larger the Muslim population your country has, the more jihadist attacks you will have in your country.

3. Jihad is part of the Islamic religion, the same way communion is for Christians. It is a obligation to be a good Muslim. You must either take part in it, or help it in some other way. That can be economic, or simply not helping infidel authorities catch jihadists.

4. Islam is more than a religion, but a political and cultural system. The point of jihad is to help establish that system throughout the world.

5. A majority of Muslims are bigoted against infidels. They learn that bigotry because of the Quran and aHadith.

So in conclusion: Trump is still not all the way there yet in getting it right, but he is a lot closer than anyone else running now. Cruz keeps talking about NATO. The same NATO who blundered into Libya and removed a secular dictator from power. Yes he was "evil", but what will replace him is worse. The same NATO that snooped around and helped assist the "Arab Spring". The same NATO who is clearly still down with Muslim refugees coming into Europe.

Worse, Cruz still cannot bring himself to utter the "dreaded" Islamic immigration pause. That would be admitting Trump was right. Even that was conditional with the word, "temporary". Yet even that is still one step too far for Cruz, who admitted after Trump said it, it was not his policy.

So the "Clown" is still closer to the truth than Cruz is about Islam and immigration, even if by pure blundering and luck. Cruz who is the Ivory League trained lawyer, who I once thought was so brilliant, yet each day is going in the wrong direction. This is what happens when you let Bush folks into your campaign, listen to stupid donors, and worse let Glenn Beck be your spokesman.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (q52Ma)

636 Okay, folks, I think we have a starting point for negotiations.

On the one hand we could let in all immigrants, legal, illegal, invited, not invited, whatever. On the other hand we could shut down immigration entirely.


So the answer lies somewhere between 0 and 100 percent. It's a start. You guys work it out, I've got real world stuff to do.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (NeFrd)

637 If a bomb went off near me, one of the first things I'd likely say is "DEAR GOD!" so if Muslims in the area did say "Allahu Akbar!"

- - - -

You need to brush up on your Arabic and the meaning of said translations.

Posted by: Community Organizer at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (9VLhN)

638 Going to make a not-so-bold prediction ...

... the bombngs are coming here, the ChemJeff's will die rather than stop it, and vigilantes similar to the Klan Nightriders will form as a result ...

... within ten years.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (zfvHs)

639 Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:43 AM (9krrF)

Right. We let 'em in and then defend ourselves from them. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (4boI/)

640 Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 09:42 AM (Zs4uk)

Oh for heaven's sake. Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (+Fl7e)

641 As if him and and his skrawny ass is ever going back to Chicago

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:45 AM (mw8Dm)


Ok then, the Nationals?

Posted by: Tami at March 22, 2016 09:47 AM (v0/PR)

642 " 25% of 1.2 billion people is 300 million people"



It's almost like we've got a problem on our hands.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 22, 2016 09:47 AM (LA7Cm)

643
Charles Clymer*

Islam is a religion of peace. These terrorists do not reflect that.

*HuffPo. Proudly Gender Nonconforming: they/them. Should do well under the Caliphate.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 09:47 AM (kdS6q)

644 Cruz saying we shouldnt cede Europe to terrorists

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 08:54 AM (zOTsN)
--------------------

We? WE? Us, the United States shouldn't cede Europe? Here we go again?

Posted by: iforgot at March 22, 2016 09:47 AM (pC96u)

645 Yeah yeah I knew it, anyone who dares to suggest that not everyone is a Muslim terrorist gets 9/11 thrown in their faces
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (+Fl7e)

----

No.... we all realize that not all Muslims are terrorists, strawman. But the threat is real and is costing lives.

YOU suggest that there is nothing that can be done that would ameliorate you sense of .... empathy??.... and reduce the threat.

For THAT .... you deserve to get 911 thrown in your face.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (8XRCm)

646 Oh for heaven's sake. Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (+Fl7e)


Actually no that's wrong. Most Arabs, and Arab Countries justify terrorism against the Jews as the only weapon the poor Arabs have to fight the superior Israeli Military Power

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (mw8Dm)

647
Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks.

Posted by: chemjeff


On the contrary. Muslims do.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (o2321)

648 Oh for heaven's sake. Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks.


Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (+Fl7e)


Well, not NOBODY since there are some, ya know, that do it.

Posted by: Tami at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (v0/PR)

649 Oh for heaven's sake. Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks.


Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (+Fl7e)


300 Million Muslims do

Posted by: IP at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (aQQbl)

650 What does "bring them to justice" mean when the perpetrators turned themselves into red pulp?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (U6f54)

651 "I don't get the Bill Clinton smackdown of Obama."


Clinton is an old corrupt piece of shit, who with his a-hole wife took the first shot at destroying the US medical system.(Med Insurance was awesome before Clinton started.

But, he doesn't hate the US.

Remember he tried to lead the Dims away from the hard left into the middle.

He's too old to be politic now.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (0cMkb)

652 "And I'd be shocked if the Clintons didn't have a nuclear dossier on TFG."

The reason Obama knocked off Hillary in 2008 is in part due to the fact that they did not have such a dossier.

Remember the hundreds of restricted FBI files on potential political adversaries that somehow found their way into the West Wing during the Clinton administration?

At that time, Obama was an utter nonentity. Not on the radar at all. So a dossier was never built on the guy. Then he came out of nowhere and the Clintons had no oppo to use to tear him down.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 09:48 AM (noWW6)

653 Preznit Springio Breakio annoyed that some are calling for him to cut Cuba short and head to Brussels.

Shit, he needs to play some rounds at Club Raul, as planned. Right?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (U6f54)




Those cabana boys aren't going to blow themselves

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 09:49 AM (493sH)

654
"stop everyone"?? Stop with the bullshit. Your infantile arguments are intellectually offensive.



Just read up thread. I am not the one proposing this.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:49 AM (+Fl7e)

655 Border control by the US does not have to be anything like 100% effective. That's an absurd piece of thinking, worthy of the mealy mouthed assholes that infect DC. How about a premise of " in these dangerous times, and in view of the internal indefensibility of the US, we are instituting rigid control of our borders, and a temporary halt to immigration until the international terrorist emergency is better controlled". Is this too damned hard?
For the Government, one whose mandates is to help us achieve "Life, Liberty, nad the Pursuit of Happiness"? Hard to do that when we are picking up body parts.

Posted by: kraken at March 22, 2016 09:49 AM (sdxPm)

656 "What Country is this fuck the President of again?"


Unfortunately, "President of" and "advocate for" are not one and the same.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 22, 2016 09:49 AM (LA7Cm)

657 how big is Beck's audience? are there reliable figures?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (X5mSF)

658 Did Obama manage a statement of support or even a reference to to the activists beaten and arrested by his wonderful Cooban hosts?

Posted by: Ripley at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (1BQGO)

659 YOU suggest that there is nothing that can be done that would ameliorate you sense of .... empathy??.... and reduce the threat.

I don't say "nothing can be done". That is a complete strawman.

I suggest that trying to 'ban Muslims" is stupid and won't work. Thre is no such thing as a magic Muslim detector.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (+Fl7e)

660 Now I have actual work to get to. See you later.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (+Fl7e)

661 I'm done interacting with chemjeff

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (xuouz)

662 To see the aftermath of a bombing in a place that you have been brings a new focus.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (9mTYi)

663 "Oh for heaven's sake. Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks."

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (+Fl7e)


Even if that were true, we would still be in danger by those who are hopelessly naïve.

Posted by: jwest at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (Zs4uk)

664 Yeah, Cruz is sucking on the Bush money teat and it shows.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (cR/4a)

665

Problem in EU is failure to assimilate Muslim immigrants. US has done better job, but Trump attacks alienate Muslims AND threaten security.



So it's not the failure of the immigrants to assimilate to their new countries? The countries they willingly came to? To abide by the laws and customs of their newly adopted home?

#WASTF

and everything is backwards these days.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (LUgeY)

666 Right. We let 'em in and then defend ourselves from them. What could possibly go wrong?

Not. Even. CLOSE. To. What. I. Said.

Your'e in camp Bad Idea or Nothing here. I think universal restrictions and background checks, combined with returning to "fight 'em there so we aren't fighting 'em here" is a better combo. Also, get the Israelis to train folks to profile properly. That will no doubt help a lot.

Laser-guided restrictions don't work. So you work with what you have that does.

Also, stomping this PC madness, lots of dividends there.

And God save me from the idea of quizzing them on their bishops and acts of contrition and such. I bet half the legit Christians somewhere couldn't answer those questions. And any terrorist could be coached on correct answers and lie like mad.

Seriously, just run your plan by a five-year-old. If they can find holes with little effort, your plan sucks, find a better one.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (9krrF)

667

they put bombs in schools

they strap bomb vests on little girls

they rape little boys and girls

they force abortions on little girls

they attacked a school in Beslan

they throw acid on little girls trying to go to school

they kill little girls trying to go to school



they do not value life as you do. stop universalizing your values

they do not have the same values. at all

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (zOTsN)

668 "Oh for heaven's sake. Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks.


Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:46 AM (+Fl7e)"


No. In Beslan they killed school children with satchel charges and Kalashnikovs.

It does not seem fully out of the realm of possibility that such a thing will happen in the United States sometime.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (QHgTq)

669 "it won't be easy"
"there will be setbacks"
"it will take time"


Does he even have a speechwriter, or has this responsibility been turned over to a BS-generator software program that re-arranges stuff he's said in previous speeches?

I don't even know how many times he's said those same three statements above. He is phoning it in, bigtime.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (NOIQH)

670 2. Allow only limited immigration from any country whose police and intelligence agencies provide documentation on each and every potential immigrant."

So like Mexico and Canada then?

Interesting...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (C9pBZ)

671 You can't tell who is who when it comes to terrorists without a lot of intelligence that has to be right 100 times out of 100.

So you stop all immigration. Then you come up with a system to start the flow again, under massive scrutiny.

You root out the cells already here until you can be absolutely sure there are no more. Ten years without an incident? Good start.

Now that you have your borders secure, you start taking the war to them in such a massive way that they get the picture that enough is enough.

There is no way to win a war without making the other side's will to fight disappear. You can't kill them all. You don't even know who they all are. They aren't wearing uniforms, they aren't lining up like British soldiers fighting American revolutionaries.

This is Vietnam, played out on a global level. It's a guerilla war with no borders.

You cannot fight that in the standard way of applying pin point military precision to it.

Either we're fighting a fucking war or we are not.

This pussyfooting around the problem is going to get a lot more people killed before someone with ball hair decides enough is enough.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (2PHKP)

672 "Here we go again?"

I'm not sending my boys to die for problems that EUrope set about deliberately to create.

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (X5mSF)

673 I suggest that trying to 'ban Muslims" is stupid and won't work. Thre is no such thing as a magic Muslim detector.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (+Fl7e)

Talk about a Strawman....LMAO

Every time I try to dial it back be more generous, I...ah never mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (mw8Dm)

674 "it won't be easy"
"there will be setbacks"
"it will take time"




Are the terrorists punching above their weight?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (493sH)

675 ""Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net."

Bull. Shit.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (0mRoj)

676 >>Now I have actual work to get to. See you later.Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (+Fl7e)

Somewhere, a wall is about to be enthusiastically fingerpainted with feces.

Posted by: General Zod at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (Bdeb0)

677 chemjeff, no one has the right to enter the United States.

We can stop anyone we want for any reason.

Period.

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (MQEz6)

678 It does not seem fully out of the realm of possibility that such a thing will happen in the United States sometime.
Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (QHgTq)

----

**coughSanBernadinocough**

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (8XRCm)

679 AlaBAMA for Sec Def

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:53 AM (X5mSF)

680 "no one has the right to enter the United States. "

that's not how the UN sees it

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:53 AM (X5mSF)

681 Bull. Shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (0mRoj)


I believe the proper format is BullFuckinShit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:53 AM (mw8Dm)

682 >>
"Oh for heaven's sake. Nobody supports blowing up children with trucks.


Boko Haram?

Oh, right. They burn them alive as they sleep. Or behead them. Or kidnap them to use as suicide bombers later. No trucks, so its all good?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:53 AM (NOIQH)

683 Just googled the Melania Trump ad.

It's just as shocking as Scott Brown's Playgirl feature.

Whoop de do.

She is lying on a fur rug with jewelry around her. It was for an ad, like the dozens you see in magazines from Cosmopolitan to a city lifestyle magazine. Zero view of anything not seen in a bikini. Likely taken twenty years ago.

Maybe the Mormon's ought to go after Marie Osmond for her diet company ads, where she is wearing a tight dress to show off her new figure.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 22, 2016 09:54 AM (le0GR)

684 magic Muslim detector"

Allah Snackbar?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 22, 2016 09:54 AM (C9pBZ)

685 Bombs at the not-secure side of airports is gonna make those big busy days at our big ones feel spooky.

The Denver airport's security lines form in a huge lower level pit one descends to via escalator banks, and while going down, you see the snaking lines with hundreds of people. You get a birds-eye view of the whole queue.

Now the thought that all of them just stepped from cars and vans and are dragging bags, nobody or their gear inspected yet, is gonna make those escalator riders wonder, "which one is it?"

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 09:54 AM (U6f54)

686 chemjeff, no one has the right to enter the United States.

We can stop anyone we want for any reason.

Period.
Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (MQEz6)

----

But thats stupid and would make him feel bad.


Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:54 AM (8XRCm)

687
I suggest that trying to 'ban Muslims" is stupid and won't work. Thre is no such thing as a magic Muslim detector.
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (+Fl7e)

--------------------------

Good we agree, there is no magic Muslim detector.

Now let's ban all Muslims as reliably as we can until we figure out what the hell is going on.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 22, 2016 09:54 AM (LXJ1e)

688 Yeah yeah I knew it, anyone who dares to suggest that not everyone is a Muslim terrorist gets 9/11 thrown in their faces
Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:44 AM (+Fl7e)

___

And Paris, and San Bernardino, and Bali, and 7/7, and....you see a trend Jeff? Anything at all?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 22, 2016 09:54 AM (0LHZx)

689 >>Are the terrorists punching above their weight?


I love that video!
Weapons grade snark.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 09:55 AM (NOIQH)

690 Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (9krrF)

Evidently I did misunderstand you. My apologies.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 09:55 AM (4boI/)

691 Hillary Clinton 11 minutes ago
These terrorists seek to undermine the democratic values that are the foundation of our way of life. They will never succeed. -H



---

Projection - That's HER goal

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at March 22, 2016 09:55 AM (oGRue)

692 "no one has the right to enter the United States. "

that's not how the UN sees it"

Nor those fine folks who populated your school "student council" - and who now populate your mandarin class...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 22, 2016 09:55 AM (C9pBZ)

693 Trump is on PMSNBC pointing out that we need to waterboard the asshole that they caught earlier in Belgium

-
First we'll have to get assurances from the EPA that there is no lead in the water.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 09:55 AM (Nwg0u)

694 Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (nFwvY)

I'm not the one who is going to vote for an ignorant flip flopping liberal. You and Ghost are on that path.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 22, 2016 09:55 AM (2d71x)

695 I don't believe this.

The responses I'm seeing to chemjeff are so far past tendentious and retarded the light from tendentious and retarded won't arrive until sometime in the 34th Century.

For God's sake people, a "just Muslims" test isn't feasible. Other methods will work quite well and solve other issues as well without going down that primrose path.

Defense in depth is the best way. But be ready for what that entails.



Let me update this for the people who still don't get it.

"Where in the Constitution does it say we have to let ANYONE in?"


Show your work.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:56 AM (6oPFc)

696
TV and movies created the mindset that chemjeff is in line with.

We've all seen on TV the poor innocent brown person who treated badly by the white guy. And by the end of the show the innocent brown person saves the day. And the white audience feels like crap.

It's all fake.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:56 AM (o2321)

697 683
AlaBAMA for Sec Def

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:53 AM (X5mSF)

I'd bet I'd do a far sight better job than the fucktards currently running things. Common sense has taken a holiday in this country. Job number one is to protect life and liberty. Fuck everyone's feelings about how that is accomplished.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 09:56 AM (2PHKP)

698 that's not how the UN sees it
Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:53 AM

----

Oh that's right. I forgot Article 27 of the Constitution. The "seceding power of border enforement and National Sovereignty" clause.


*spit**

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:56 AM (8XRCm)

699
chemjeff, no one has the right to enter the United States.

We can stop anyone we want for any reason.

Period.
Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (MQEz6)



The United States is not obligated to be the flophouse for every piece of third world trash. Anyone espousing such a position is, at the least, guilty of treason.





But thats stupid and would make him feel bad.


Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 09:54 AM (8XRCm)
FFS. People's feeeelz are the last nail in the coffin of what was, once, the last best hope of Earth.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 22, 2016 09:56 AM (X6fMO)

700 They shouldn't be doing that.

Posted by: Secretariat Kerry at March 22, 2016 09:56 AM (H9MG5)

701 696 "no one has the right to enter the United States. "

that's not how the UN sees it"

Nor those fine folks who populated your school "student council" - and who now populate your mandarin class...



The UN can get the fuck out.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (6oPFc)

702
These terrorists seek to undermine the democratic values that are the foundation of our way of life. They will never succeed. -H



What's the "H" stand for? Hysteric?

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (o2321)

703 I'm done interacting with chemjeff

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 09:50 AM (xuouz)

Congratulations

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (QPdNE)

704 Howdy, y'all. Had to finish reading the ONT and the EMT (yay, Vic News is not dead) before I got here. Haven't caught the comments here yet, but did peruse the headlines.

Feel Good Story of the Day is a mixed bag of feelz, actually. The little girl was found safe, yes, thank heaven and an alert citizen. However, her mother is murdered and the father is the murderer-kidnapper who will never (God willing) see the light of day again.

Tough start on life.

Now to check out y'all's comments...

Posted by: mindful webworker - 20 Years on the Web at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (w46Mb)

705 ""Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net."

Bull. Shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (0mRoj)

Banning anyone who adheres to an ideology antithetical to our form of government (e.g.: Islam) would be even broader and appropriate. Should have been done already.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (4ng05)

706 The Denver airport's security lines form in a huge lower level pit one descends to via escalator banks, and while going down, you see the snaking lines with hundreds of people. You get a birds-eye view of the whole queue. "

Yeah, been there, saw that - and it's similar in a few other airports.
I can't help but wonder what would happen with a couple of Boston style frag bombs were detonated, say, halfway down the escalators...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (C9pBZ)

707 At that time, Obama was an utter nonentity. Not on the radar at all. So a dossier was never built on the guy. Then he came out of nowhere and the Clintons had no oppo to use to tear him down.

I agree that in 2008 they had nothing. But since then Hillary's been a part of his administration for several years and I'd be surprised if she didn't take advantage.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (KUTP5)

708 Think of how few clocks will be invented if we don't let muslims in.

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 09:58 AM (iynDC)

709 We can stop anyone we want for any reason.

-
But that's not who we are.

- Barry "Che" Obozo

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 09:59 AM (Nwg0u)

710 Good to see Obama totally on top of the situation. Well, as much as he's been on top of anything since being president.

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at March 22, 2016 09:59 AM (4ng05)

711 685 Bull. Shit.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 09:52 AM (0mRoj)


I believe the proper format is BullFuckinShit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 09:53 AM (mw8Dm)

I was saving it for later.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 09:59 AM (0mRoj)

712 >>>>
I don't get the Bill Clinton smackdown of Obama. You'd think with the
FBI itching to indict Hills, he'd keep his mouth shut and not give O a
reason to give the green light.
.
.
.
.We wasn't smacking down obama, he has senile dementia and in his mind it was 2008 and hillary was running against the Bush years.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 22, 2016 09:59 AM (iONHu)

713 Trump said he'd move the American embassy to Jerusalem. Good, that's a start.

How about moving the UN to, say, Toronto.

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:59 AM (X5mSF)

714 If it's like yesterday, this thread will run into the afternoon, Ace will pop in, have a meltdown, and then ONT.

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (iynDC)

715 My guess is ChemJeff has "skin in the game" on this. I've heard Muslim students in his class mentioned before. I suspect it runs deeper.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (zfvHs)

716 So, I went to see the fights and an Ace of Spades comment thread broke out.

Posted by: GT 5.0 at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (F18mI)

717 The Denver airport's security lines form in a huge lower level pit one descends to via escalator banks, and while going down, you see the snaking lines with hundreds of people. You get a birds-eye view of the whole queue.

Now the thought that all of them just stepped from cars and vans and are dragging bags, nobody or their gear inspected yet, is gonna make those escalator riders wonder, "which one is it?"



Ten to one it's the granny in the wheel chair. What? No?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (6oPFc)

718
She is lying on a fur rug with jewelry around her. It was for an ad, like the dozens you see in magazines from Cosmopolitan to a city lifestyle magazine.

Mormons should be insulted at the attempt. The people behind the ad, I'm guessing, are estimating the Mormons in Utah to be 19th Mennonites.

Posted by: cucumbah watah for customah only! at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (o2321)

719 Just read up thread. I am not the one proposing this.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:49 AM (+Fl7e)


Then respond to that person. If you are debating with me then address the points that I make. Have some intellectual honesty. Just a smidgeon, please.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (zc3Db)

720 We wasn't smacking down obama, he has senile dementia

Syphilis is a helluva drug.

Posted by: Hector's Inflatable WIfe at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (iynDC)

721 Trump said he'd move the American embassy to Jerusalem. Good, that's a start.


yeah, well don't hold your breath. Most "Candidates" say that and then never do it. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (mw8Dm)

722 Let me update this for the people who still don't get it.

"Where in the Constitution does it say we have to let ANYONE in?"


Show your work.

Posted by: rickb223


It doesn't.

THIS DOES NOT EXCUSE SUGGESTING FOOLISH, UNWORKABLE, FATALLY FLAWED PLANS AND GOING ALL BALLISTIC WHEN SOMEONE POINTS OUT THEY ARE FOOLISH, UNWORKABLE, AND FATALLY FLAWED.

What. The flying. Fuck. Is wrong. With y'all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (9krrF)

723 Agree with AlaBama.

Most people are unaware that the USA has periodically banned certain groups from entering the USA. In the 1930's during the height of the Depression, we allowed almost no immigration here at all. We have banned Chinese, Mexican, those with contagious diseases, radicals from Europe, etc.

We have NO obligation to permit immigration. None. I believe there are several countries in the Middle East that do not allow immigration, Saudi Arabia being one that comes to mind.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (le0GR)

724 First we'll have to get assurances from the EPA that there is no lead in the water.
Posted by: Anonosaurus
--------------

No problem. Use Spa water.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (9mTYi)

725
Yeah yeah I knew it, anyone who dares to suggest that not everyone is a Muslim terrorist gets 9/11 thrown in their faces


Grandfather Poppins used to say, "Not every Democrat is a traitor, but every traitor is a Democrat."

Pace
that, no, not every Muslim is a terrorist. But the overwhelming majority of terrorist attacks since 9/11 (and before) have been either by Muslims or Muslim sympathizers. That is objective fact.

Close the border to everyone. No exceptions.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (X6fMO)

726 >>Cuba not Cubs
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Better baseball players in Cuba.

Posted by: Aviator at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (b3p08)

727 The UN can get the fuck out.

Posted by: rickb223


*****

I'm still waiting for a reliable test to determine if someone is a delegate to the U.N.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (NeFrd)

728 I'm not the one who is going to vote for an ignorant flip flopping liberal. You and Ghost are on that path.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 22, 2016 09:55 AM (2d71x)

You're arguing in the ruins of a dead political nomenclature. We are fighting for the very idea of nationhood, inalienable rights vs granted rights, and private property.

chemjeff sums up the problem with lawyerly, intellectually rigorous conservatives. He lives for the verbal fight and has no idea what the fuck is really going on. Ted Cruz is a marvelous conservative but wouldn't make a good leader. The other candidate running is a horseshit conservative but a fantastic leader.

"No more muslim immigration until we figure out what's going on. Not gonna happen, folks."

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (xuouz)

729 719
My guess is ChemJeff has "skin in the game" on this. I've heard Muslim
students in his class mentioned before. I suspect it runs deeper.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (zfvHs)

She's either got a great rack under that burkha, or one helluva a suicide vest.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 22, 2016 10:02 AM (4ErVI)

730 Cuba not Cubs
Posted by: TheQuietMan

Better baseball players in Cuba.
Posted by: Aviator at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (b3p0

Ouch... that's gonna leave a mark

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 10:02 AM (mw8Dm)

731 OH, and "my work" has been stated several times in this thread. Learn to use F3 if you want to see it again.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:02 AM (9krrF)

732 Good to see Obama totally on top of the situation. Well, as much as he's been on top of anything since being president.



Barry is a bottom. Never a top.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 10:02 AM (6oPFc)

733 "Banning Muslim immigration" is basically synonymous with "ban anyone who looks Muslim and has Muslim-sounding names", which is far too broad of a net."

-
You mean so Barack Hussein Obama couldn't get in? Yeah, that'd be horrible.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 10:02 AM (Nwg0u)

734 "So, I went to see the fights and an Ace of Spades comment thread broke out."



*snort*

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 22, 2016 10:02 AM (LA7Cm)

735 I'm not the one who is going to vote for an ignorant flip flopping liberal. You and Ghost are on that path.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck


nope, you're voting for Hillary! joe hallenbeck for Hillary!

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:03 AM (nFwvY)

736 My guess is ChemJeff has "skin in the game" on this. I've heard Muslim students in his class mentioned before. I suspect it runs deeper.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 10:00 AM (zfvHs)

So guys.

I heard it through the grapevine that Chemjeff is running an Al Qaeda sleeper cell.

Anyone want to proffer some musings? Some thoughtful thoughts?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:03 AM (xuouz)

737 How about moving the UN to, say, Toronto.



Brussels.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 10:03 AM (6oPFc)

738 Anyone want to proffer some musings? Some thoughtful thoughts?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:03 AM (xuouz)

stop that. stop

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 10:03 AM (zOTsN)

739 Thre is no such thing as a magic Muslim detector.

Ask them to spit in a Koran. Eat a piece of bacon. Lots of ways.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 22, 2016 10:04 AM (sqEPx)

740 I heard it through the grapevine that Chemjeff is running an Al Qaeda sleeper cell.

----

Sleeper Cells??? You mean like a Sealy mattress??

~Hilary

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 10:04 AM (8XRCm)

741 Congratulations
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 22, 2016 09:57 AM (QPdNE)

I'm also done interacting with you! You're on the list!

I mean, off the list!

We are not talking!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:04 AM (xuouz)

742 >>I'm still waiting for a reliable test to determine if someone is a delegate to the U.N.


For starters, they don't pay their parking ticket?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 10:04 AM (NOIQH)

743 Frakking hell! Must be something in the damn Val-U-Rite today for this many normally sensible Morons to be acting like this!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:05 AM (9krrF)

744 Sleeper Cells??? You mean like a Sealy mattress??



~Hilary

Posted by: fixerupper at March 22, 2016 10:04 AM (8XRCm)

Hillary's big idea is to order Sealy to make socks and diapers out of the same stuff they make the matresses.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 22, 2016 10:05 AM (4ErVI)

745 Thre is no such thing as a magic Muslim detector.

There could be. But first we have to find the scarab brooch and then we have to journey 3 days into the desert beyond Agrabah and there's a lot of singing and dancing involved.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:05 AM (xuouz)

746 >>How about moving the UN to, say, Toronto.

Brussels.


A non-western country. How about Dubai?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (NOIQH)

747 Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:03 AM (nFwvY)

Are you even old enough to vote?

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (2d71x)

748 De Commio talking in NYC...probably going to kiss some muslim ass and apologize

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (mw8Dm)

749 749 Thre is no such thing as a magic Muslim detector.

There could be. But first we have to find the scarab brooch and then we have to journey 3 days into the desert beyond Agrabah and there's a lot of singing and dancing involved.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:05 AM (xuouz)

Will there be belly dancers?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (0mRoj)

750 of course you don't. you plan on voting for Hillary. because you're conservative.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (nFwvY)

No he doesn't... I believe he doesn't plan on voting for any progressive no matter whether they are running as a D or and R.

I share that sentiment.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (NPofj)

751 cavil, what's not sensible about closing the border

why do we have to keep the border open all the time?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (X5mSF)

752 *snort*
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
-----------------

You talking to me? You talking to me? You talking to me? Then who the hell else are you talking to? You talking to me? Well, I'm the only one here.

Posted by: Robert De Niro at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (9mTYi)

753
She's either got a great rack under that burkha, or one helluva a suicide vest.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis



"If I said you have a beautiful body, would you hold it against me -- then explode in a fireball devastating the area?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (kdS6q)

754 750 >>How about moving the UN to, say, Toronto.

Brussels.


A non-western country. How about Dubai?
Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (NOIQH)

Too comfortable. I was thinking Detroit.

Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 10:07 AM (0mRoj)

755 Will there be belly dancers?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (0mRoj)

If Prince Kari has anything to say about it.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:07 AM (xuouz)

756 What. The flying. Fuck. Is wrong. With y'all.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:01 AM (9krrF)
_________
Yep. This. Brother, you have been bringing it this morning. Thank you.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 22, 2016 10:07 AM (MIKMs)

757 kari - I'm serious.

Dude's got muslim family, friends, something. I guarantee it. Nobody goes to the mat that hard for anything without personal motivation.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 10:07 AM (zfvHs)

758 Leftists don't want to block Muslims from airports, they want to block Trump supporters from attending rallies.

I'm a Cruz guy but Trump is looking better every day, sorry to say.

Posted by: CrustyB at March 22, 2016 10:07 AM (GvSpB)

759 I'm still waiting for a reliable test to determine if someone is a delegate to the U.N.

-
Maybe we could do like they did in the Battle of the Bulge when there were English-speaking German spies everywhere. "Who plays with deflated balls." If they don't know, it's the chop.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 10:07 AM (Nwg0u)

760 OH, and "my work" has been stated several times in this thread. Learn to use F3 if you want to see it again.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:02 AM (9krrF)


You haven't really "stated" anything other than claiming a ban on muzzie entry is retarded and ... whatever.

BTW, how is it that America was essentially muzzie free for the first 200 years of our existence? Was that just dumb luck?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 10:08 AM (zc3Db)

761 redbanzai, I'd encourage you to start thinking of your vote as a political act, not as an expression of your identity

not voting is like saying "no one is perfect, therefore I'm not going to marry"

if you're a citizen, it's your duty to vote

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:08 AM (X5mSF)

762
Chemjeff



"Him? Oh, his class is an easy A. Don't think, just parrot back the lectures..."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 22, 2016 10:08 AM (kdS6q)

763 "Who plays with deflated balls."

Reggie?

Posted by: Insomniac at March 22, 2016 10:09 AM (0mRoj)

764 Brother Cavil, you want to know "what is wrong with" us. I would submit to you that we are tired of living in fear. The fear is being replaced with resolve. We recognize the problem and we know the solution. It only remains to implement it.

Posted by: creeper at March 22, 2016 10:09 AM (4boI/)

765 From a Trump tweet just now about Obama in Cuba.

"President Obama looks and sounds so ridiculous making his speech in Cuba, especially in the shadows of Brussels. He is being treated badly!"

WTF does he mean, exactly, by the second sentence?

And, if you think that is not stupid enough, did you see the q&a between Trump and some reporter named Ryan, in which the topic was ISIS and went to nuclear weaponry?

This moron, this incredibly stupid guy, goes into a babble about hey, introduce me to those women over there, won't cha?

And this is Mister Tough, the answer to all our problems? Who thinks this way?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 10:09 AM (U6f54)

766 How about moving the UN to, say, Toronto.

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:59 AM (X5mSF)


Better yet, Brussels.

Posted by: OregonMuse at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (k9NgJ)

767 754 of course you don't. you plan on voting for Hillary. because you're conservative.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (nFwvY)

No he doesn't... I believe he doesn't plan on voting for any progressive no matter whether they are running as a D or and R.

I share that sentiment.
Posted by: redbanza



he said the day before yesterday he was voting Hillary. Arson Wells declared his support for Hillary yesterday. do try to keep up.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (nFwvY)

768 Posted by: Brother Cavil

I don't think that anyone who is not joking would seriously consider a religious litmus test for entry into the US.

The horde was simply "illustrating absurdity by being absurd" as Rush says.

This used to be a humor site you know.


In the case of chemjeff vs Common Fkn Sense , there is no where to go. He inflates his strawmen until the fill the room, insistent on keeping the collective focus on whatever his stupid fixation of the moment is.


Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (HA9zO)

769 "spread death" - De Blabio

LOL.

And now De Blabio is making retarded remarks in Spanish. I hope they come back to him when he gets to that click language. That's pretty cool to listen to.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (zc3Db)

770 "introduce me to those women over there, won't cha?"

you do realize how much of a smackdown this is, don't you?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:11 AM (X5mSF)

771 How about moving the UN to, say, Toronto.Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 09:59 AM (X5mSF) Better yet, Brussels.
Posted by: OregonMuse
Atlantis

Posted by: Aviator at March 22, 2016 10:11 AM (b3p08)

772 And this is Mister Tough, the answer to all our problems? Who thinks this way?
Posted by: the littl shyning man
-------------

The naive ignorant?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 22, 2016 10:11 AM (9mTYi)

773 No he doesn't... I believe he doesn't plan on voting for any progressive no matter whether they are running as a D or and R.

I share that sentiment.


Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:06 AM (NPofj)
FI

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:11 AM (NPofj)

774 Ted Cruz demanded an end to any plans of absorbing Syrian refugees in
the wake of the terrorist attacks in Brussels, and a more robust
response from Barack Obama than just "another lecture on Islamophobia."

>>>>


paging chemjeff

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (HA9zO)

775 WTF does he mean, exactly, by the second sentence?

I think he means the Castros are making a fool out of TFG. Which is SOP when the SCOAMF is on foreign soil.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (KUTP5)

776
Gnude

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo aka Mortimer at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (HA9zO)

777 If closing ALL immigration to this country is not illegal, the all of these "majik muzzie tests" are bullshit and distractions.

Close. The. Fucking. Border.

Period. To all immigration.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (6oPFc)

778 You haven't really "stated" anything other than claiming a ban on muzzie entry is retarded and ... whatever.

Uh, yes, yes I have. Go back and look. Multiple measures in fact. Do try to make an effort at something other than outrage, like maybe basic research and reading comprehension.

BTW, how is it that America was essentially muzzie free for the first 200 years of our existence? Was that just dumb luck?

Pretty sure it wasn't even the case. (I seem to recall Henry Ford being fond of employing Muslims in his factories...) But I'm also sure that the increases in numbers has something to do with a disastrous 1965 immigration law I've been on record here multiple times on multiple occasions as wanting to see shitcanned on multiple grounds, not just this issue.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (9krrF)

779 Will there be belly dancers?

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http://tinyurl.com/zjwg2h5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (Nwg0u)

780 I'm still waiting for a reliable test to determine if someone is a delegate to the U.N. "

That's easy - do they expect to park (a car) in Turtle Bay?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (C9pBZ)

781 Do we need to start keeping lists now? Who is not talking to whom?

Names. I need names.......

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (WVsWD)

782 "the answer to all our problems?"

no, dude, we think Trump is "the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything"

keep up

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (X5mSF)

783
it requires HUMINT, it requires profiling, it requires spying, it require infiltration

do we have the will

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:37 AM (zOTsN)










Helps if you get rid of the CIA Director who believes that the Agency he leads shouldn't be engaging in espionage.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 22, 2016 10:13 AM (/wVDI)

784 Country's full. Moose out front shoulda toldya.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at March 22, 2016 10:13 AM (evdj2)

785 I'm still waiting for an answer:

why do we need to keep the US border open all the time?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:13 AM (X5mSF)

786 redbanzai, I'd encourage you to start thinking of your vote as a political act, not as an expression of your identity



not voting is like saying "no one is perfect, therefore I'm not going to marry"



if you're a citizen, it's your duty to vote

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:08 AM (X5mSF)

Oh I will vote no matter what... it just won't be for Trump or Hillary. Hopefully, Cruz gets the nom and I won't have to vote third party.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:14 AM (NPofj)

787 RIP, Rob Ford.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 10:14 AM (iQIUe)

788 In the case of chemjeff vs Common Fkn Sense , there is no where to go. He inflates his strawmen until the fill the room, insistent on keeping the collective focus on whatever his stupid fixation of the moment is.

That's frequently the case of late with him, but this time Strawman Has A Point. And that point is, Get A Better Plan.

I disagree with him on most points, but I'm giving credit where credit is due here.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:14 AM (9krrF)

789 >>>Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2016 09:51 AM (zOTsN)

***

They hate dogs. There's something fundamentally wrong with that.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 10:14 AM (bpn7O)

790 I'd have agents inside every mosque in America. First raid that finds a weapons cache changes everything.

Which is, I think, EXACTLY why we're not monitoring them.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 10:15 AM (zfvHs)

791
"the answer to all our problems?"



no, dude, we think Trump is "the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything"



keep up

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:12 AM (X5mSF)

No... that is 42 not Trump. Deep Thought said so.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:15 AM (NPofj)

792 redbanzai, are you in a swing state?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:15 AM (X5mSF)

793 He is being treated badly!"
WTF does he mean, exactly, by the second sentence?
Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 22, 2016 10:09 AM (U6f54)

Obama is being treated badly. Well, let's see. So far, none of the Castro clan greeted Obama and co. at the airport. Watch any arrival of a dignitary from a foreign country anywhere else, and the Queen or Prime Minister, etc. are at the bottom of the stairs to greet the visitor.

Castro during their combination news conference grabbed Obama's arm and raised it in the Communist salute. NO ONE does that. Picture Obama or Kerry grabbing the arm of one of the Saudi's and having him salute our flag, etc.

Castro kept interrupting during the press conference to spout off his communist drivel.

They made sure to have Obama stand in front of Che Guevera's portrait on the wall, etc.

Don't get me wrong, Obama asked for all this by going to Cuba and apologizing. But I believe this is what Trump is referring.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 22, 2016 10:16 AM (le0GR)

794 but "42" is kinda hard to monetize

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:16 AM (X5mSF)

795 When I see a chemjeff posting, I find myself thinking of Monty Python's Argument Clinic.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 10:16 AM (bpn7O)

796 What Trump means to say is, Obama is being used like a new fluffer in a New Orleans bathhouse.

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:17 AM (X5mSF)

797 Cruz still doesn't have the balls to say the words "ban all Muslim immigration". He only talks about Syrian immigrants and the visa waiver program. Fuck that. Say the words.

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at March 22, 2016 10:17 AM (cR/4a)

798 Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (nFwvY)

You must have dreamt that before you had to get up before first bell. Must be the stress from upcoming SATs.

Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (2d71x)

799 >>> President Obama looks and sounds so ridiculous making his speech in
Cuba, especially in the shadows of Brussels. He is being treated badly!


"WTF does he mean, exactly, by the second sentence?"

Trump's view as I understand it is that the Cuban government have actually been engaging in a series of not very subtle slights of Obama, as ways to show their own population that they aren't completely knuckling under to the hated Yanqui imperialist adversary.

For example, Raul Castro didn't personally meet and greet Obama on the airport tarmac. Raul has routinely done that for all other high profile international visitors.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (noWW6)

800 "You talking to me? You talking to me?"


Yeah, I was looking right at you when I said that.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (LA7Cm)

801 he said the day before yesterday he was voting
Hillary. Arson Wells declared his support for Hillary yesterday. do try
to keep up.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (nFwvY)

THAT... seems unlikely.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (NPofj)

802
747 Frakking hell! Must be something in the damn Val-U-Rite today for this many normally sensible Morons to be acting like this!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:05 AM (9krrF)

You're seeing very worried people come up with what they would do, under the circumstances, to make sure the war in Europe- and it is a war- doesn't get a chance to start here. They may not be the best plans, but I don't think the solution to our ills will be found on Internet comments. And at least it's better than what TFG has offered.

It could be a great deal worse than even the current low standard, though. No one offered "kill them all!" Yet. A plan that makes up for its lack of morals, and coherence, with being simple in its effectiveness. As long as you don't ask what the final effect is.

Posted by: trev006 at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (MEHba)

803 >>>No... that is 42 not Trump. Deep Thought said so.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:15 AM (NPofj)

***

And if memory serves, the question is "What do you get when you multiply six times 8?"

Deep. Very deep.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (bpn7O)

804 I would refer back to my point at #325- until the leadership of this country is willing to say the words- "Islamic jihadism is at war with western Civilization" there will be no filtering of jihadist immigration at any level of significance. So this thread (as have so many threads here lately) largely consists of jacking off in a vacuum.





And nobody has done that as well as John Glenn did on February 20 1962. (Historical Footnote&trade

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 10:19 AM (NeFrd)

805 791 RIP, Rob Ford.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 22, 2016 10:14 AM (iQIUe)

... well shit. This day just keeps getting worse. He was a very sick man, though, so at least he's not suffering anymore.

Posted by: trev006 at March 22, 2016 10:19 AM (MEHba)

806 Cavil ... You and Chem are coming from entirely different places.

You're just saying "need better plan". He's saying "perfect plan or nothing". Two different things.

Well ... That and I think you're an OK dude and he's a worthless fuck.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 10:20 AM (zfvHs)

807 Sod. Memory does not serve. It's six times nine.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 10:20 AM (bpn7O)

808 Damn close parenthesis

(Historical Footnote™ )

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 22, 2016 10:20 AM (NeFrd)

809 When I see a chemjeff posting, I find myself thinking of Monty Python's Argument Clinic.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 10:16 AM (bpn7O)

No you don't.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:20 AM (xuouz)

810 Stop all immigration into the U.S. Period. It's been done before, it can be done again.

Deport the illegals and all muzzies. Just get them the hell out of my country. Islam and freedom are incompatible.

Posted by: Soona at March 22, 2016 10:21 AM (Fmupd)

811 It's all part of The Plan.

Make conditions so dangerous that a Police State is necessary.


Posted by: davidt at March 22, 2016 10:22 AM (8aOqE)

812 You're seeing very worried people come up with what they would do, under the circumstances, to make sure the war in Europe- and it is a war- doesn't get a chance to start here. They may not be the best plans, but I don't think the solution to our ills will be found on Internet comments.

Posted by: trev006 at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (MEHba)


I'm not worried. I'm making sober assessments of the situation and offering reasonable and sensible actions. Of course, all threats from the arab/persian/muslim world start and stop with control of the gulf oil fields, but with regard to our population the US had been blessed with essentially no muslims in our population up until very recently. We are one of the only countries on Earth to have been so blessed and it would be prudent to understand that.

This is not about "very worried" people. This about reasonable people who can see the threats posed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 10:23 AM (zc3Db)

813 redbanzai, are you in a swing state?

Posted by: Feh at March 22, 2016 10:15 AM (X5mSF)

Likely... doesn't matter though. If I were inclined to support someone who loves government run health care, abortion on demand and crony socialism AND has no respect for the Constitution or limited government, I would just go ahead and support Hillary.

Since I am not and have never voted for progressivism in my life, I will give both Hillary and Trump (if he is the nominee which I hope he will not be) a pass.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:25 AM (NPofj)

814 The choice is simple - either we get real fucking serious about offending people, or we let them kill us.

Posted by: Weasel at March 22, 2016 10:25 AM (6xtq3)

815 Well ... That and I think you're an OK dude and he's a worthless fuck.

Unlike what I'm seeing in some of this thread, I generally operate from the assumption that members of the Horde--chemjeff included--are operating with America's best interests in mind, just not always with the same ideas on how to get there. That means that even though I think he's wrong a lot, I don't assign some of the motives I'm seeing implied here today.

Just fucking disgusting. Knock it off. Disagree if you disagree, but keep it at that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:26 AM (9krrF)

816 And if memory serves, the question is "What do you get when you multiply six times 8?"



Deep. Very deep.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 22, 2016 10:18 AM (bpn7O)

No... that is way too simple and obvious a question... I believe the mice settled on "how many roads must a man walk down?"

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:27 AM (NPofj)

817 They made sure to have Obama stand in front of Che Guevera's portrait on the wall, etc.



Posted by: Jen the original at March 22, 2016 10:16 AM

~~~~

Obama CHOSE to stand in front of Che's mural. See this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skdIQzQJk0Ufeature=youtu.be

Posted by: Giveitup at March 22, 2016 10:27 AM (E6RIJ)

818 Fredo actually going to Cuba is just life imitating art.

Posted by: F F Coppola at March 22, 2016 10:27 AM (h/uSM)

819 Just fucking disgusting. Knock it off. Disagree if you disagree, but keep it at that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:26 AM (9krrF)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:27 AM (NPofj)

820 Wow.

Someone sure has become an attention-whoring troll.

Posted by: seamrog at March 22, 2016 10:28 AM (UjWwR)

821 818
The choice is simple - either we get real fucking serious about offending people, or we let them kill us.

Posted by: Weasel at March 22, 2016 10:25 AM (6xtq3)

Bingo. Either you worry about how you look at dinner parties or you get busy stopping the threat. Right now, our "betters" care only about the former.
And people are dying because of it.
The people calling all this stupid don't have a plan. They don't know what the hell to do. All they know is they don't want to offend anyone. Meanwhile, people are getting shredded into hamburger.
Every bit of this, from Angie Merkel to Obama is about optics. Being the coolest, most tolerant and loved leader. The Jihadists love this, because it assures them the ability to move about freely.
Freedom to move your troops within range of your enemy is a wonderful luxury being provided by your enemy. How nice.

Either we're fighting a war or we're not. If we are, we better start actually fighting it, otherwise people might get the idea that all of this is planned.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 22, 2016 10:31 AM (2PHKP)

822 This.

Posted by: redbanzai


...irony.

Hell, I'm getting too old for this.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:32 AM (9krrF)

823 Is nuking Mecca looking less and less out of bounds?

Posted by: eman at March 22, 2016 08:20 AM (MQEz6)


As long as you use one that's bigger than me.

Posted by: Tsar Bomba (emeritus) at March 22, 2016 10:33 AM (/i7Ua)

824 This is not about "very worried" people. This about reasonable people who can see the threats posed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2016 10:23 AM (zc3Db)

Well, them too, of course. But I'm definitely worried, and I don't mind admitting that. It's a reasonable reaction to governments that created the problem, and go out of their way to stomp on any resistance to it.

A good plan requires resources that aren't being dedicated, and I understand that the solution is currently way over my head.

Posted by: trev006 at March 22, 2016 10:35 AM (MEHba)

825 Currently, we're making a terrible effort to enforce people who violate or overstay visas.

Hell, applications were approved months after the 9/11 attackers incinerated thousands.

We have been repeatedly lied to about the "vetting process" for Syrian "refugees".
1. There is no way to verify them, since the government isn't in control of all areas.
2. It isn't sharing any information with anyone.
3. We know that ISIS and private actors are manufacturing documents.

And here we find a pissing match on what is or is not realistic or workable.

Oh yeah, We're molesting people for nothing AND the Border patrol have stated repeatedly that they've been pulled back.

And diseases have run rampant.

And people are being killed after it was determined that 'sanctuary' policies and federal imperatives are contributing to it.

And we're bitching about exactly what the left wants us to.....what, if anything to do about mohammadans?

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 22, 2016 10:36 AM (326rv)

826 Cavil ...

... I will do you the coutesy of being blunt. ChemJeff's educated mind is full of opinions that are going to, if left unchecked, get quite a few people killed. We are past the point of "we're all on the same team". We ain't.

He is part of the problem. And if you defend him, you enable him.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2016 10:36 AM (zfvHs)

827 That feel-good story of the day is from October 2015.

http://tinyurl.com/zwc5pzv

Posted by: THAT'S OLD! at March 22, 2016 10:36 AM (S/1cF)

828 Current policies have all the advantages of other trends in our society:

Incompetent, lazy, venal people bent on self enrichment and empire building are in positions of authority.

They have managed to turn their vices into virtue; being lazy and fucking with those applying and pushing paper while waving through those who save them the trouble of processing applications.

And they wreathe it in leftist pieties about 'fairness' and being on the siad of the (secular) angels.

That, and the ever present factor that they are both insulated from the consequences of their actions and that they are being progressive and enlightened.

Posted by: Blue Hen at March 22, 2016 10:40 AM (326rv)

829 728 First we'll have to get assurances from the EPA that there is no lead in the water.
Posted by: Anonosaurus
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No problem. Use Spa water.

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Detroit river water will do

Posted by: F F Coppola at March 22, 2016 10:45 AM (h/uSM)

830 Arson Wells declared his support for Hillary yesterday. do try to keep up.Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (nFwvY)
THAT... seems unlikely Posted by: redbanzai
>>>>>>>.

check out the "Blacklist" Thread. ctrl F 'Arson'

Posted by: Darth McConnell at March 22, 2016 10:45 AM (HA9zO)

831 This.



Posted by: redbanzai



...irony.



Hell, I'm getting too old for this.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at March 22, 2016 10:32 AM (9krrF)

I don't even remember being uncivil to you (or anyone here except over the issue of Cruz birtherism) but OK... I will do you the courtesy of not trying to agree with you again.

Posted by: redbanzai at March 22, 2016 10:46 AM (NPofj)

832 798 Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:10 AM (nFwvY)

You must have dreamt that before you had to get up before first bell. Must be the stress from upcoming SATs.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck


at least you're denying your previous position now. that's progress. voting hillary is a terrible idea.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 10:51 AM (nFwvY)

833 You guys! Trump's economic policies would cause EXPLODING DEBTS wow he's like a nightmare!
http://archive.is/MnyY2

(written by former Fed vice chairman and "informal" Clinton advisor Alan S. Blinder)

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 22, 2016 10:56 AM (xuouz)

834 if you try to win a point by declaring you're so conservative that you're voting for Hillary, don't get butthurt when I hang that extra large pantsuited millstone around your neck.

Posted by: x at March 22, 2016 11:01 AM (nFwvY)

835 Demanding that potential immigrants eat ham sandwiches or whatever is just stupid.

Posted by: chemjeff at March 22, 2016 09:16 AM (+Fl7e)


Nobody is seriously advocating that. They are simply mocking you.

Posted by: Tsar Bomba (emeritus) at March 22, 2016 11:09 AM (/i7Ua)

836 GITMO - Come and Take It

Posted by: BamaBubba at March 22, 2016 11:37 AM (8XDXc)

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