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David Brooks: Gee, I Guess Me and My Fellow Well-Heeled Establisment Swells Kind of Didn't Listen to the Voters for Years, Huh?
The question is: Should deference be paid to this victor [Trump and Trumpism]? Should we bow down to the judgment of these voters? Well, some respect is in order. Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else. Moreover, many in the media, especially me, did not understand how they would express their alienation. We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough. For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country.Why don't you just admit you expected Your Lessers to obey your pronouncements because of your self-evident superiority? * And perhaps contemplate that it is precisely this attitude -- the sneering contempt for anyone outside your small, unimaginative, well-educated-but-unimaginative drone class -- is precisely what has caused this class to lose all of its (unearned) authority? From Instapundit, who finds this very early stage of self-examination wholly inadequate. He notes that the Tea Party sounded the alarm bells -- and the establishment hit the snooze button for six years. Don't take this as any kind of endorsement of Trump from me -- Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster the very dimensions of which will perversely serve as a validation of the Establishment who actually caused the disaster. That is, when Trump loses everything -- and all indications are that he will lose everything for us, the presidency, the Senate, the courts-- the well-read-but-stupid seneschals of the Establishment will rise back to prominence. There's an old saying: If you take a shot at the king, you'd best not miss. The current trajectory we're on -- taking a shot at the Establishment princelimgs with Trump, then getting blown out in the general and thereby confirming the alleged wisdom of the Capital Class -- would be a case of assassin's aiming at the king, but then all of their guns exploding in their own faces. * BTW, asshole, you don't have to "socially mingle" with anybody. People do not need to "socially mingle" with other people to know what the news is. They just have to buy a newspaper. Who the hell has time to "socially mingle" even with one's friends enough, let alone strangers, for purely interview/focus group purposes? What you assholes need to do is let your intellects occasionally wander off the well-worn paths you've been treading down for 60 years. You just need to read someone who disagrees with you occasionally. These fools live in a bubble completely insulated from popular thought but then presume to tell the nation what it really thinks. Note that even David Brooks' pronouncement that he needs to "socially mingle" with his lessers is just a regurgitation of another old idea he had -- that the someone should set up programs to let The Elite go on camping trips with those of the lower orders, to facilitate such "social mingling." Or, as I like to say: David Brooks demands that a government program be set up which can introduce him to his doorman. I'm sure, after a period of "social mingling" David Brooks will deem himself now up-to-speed and Ready to Rule once again. That old post brought me to this old David Brooks quote, asserting, for the hundredth time, his unshakable belief that we need a Leadership Class to lead the uneducated and declasse:
This leadership crisis is eminently solvable. First, we need to get over the childish notion that we don’t need a responsible leadership class, that power can be wielded directly by the people. America was governed best when it was governed by a porous, self-conscious and responsible elite -- during the American revolution, for example, or during and after World War II. Karl Marx and Ted Cruz may believe that power can be wielded directly by the masses, but this has almost never happened historically.It has happened briefly after periods of revolution against out-of-touch entitled faux elites, David. Which is not to say it's ever gone well. But perhaps you should take some time to read up on the various political classes which became so inbred, insular, and disconnected from reality they provoked their own destruction.
David Brooks Has Confessed Failure. Anyone Think He'll Pay Any Price for His Failure? The interesting thing about the Capital Class is that it's insular and maintains that no one else in America is capable of doing the cognitive work they do -- ergo, you can't really be fired from your job. You can only be moved from position to position. They can't fire you, because there's literally no one else in America capable of rising up to take their place (in their belief, at least). That makes this class completely unlike most others in America. There aren't too many professions in which you can fail catastrophically and then get a book deal to explain your errors (with lots of self-justification along the way) and have it become a mid-list bestseller. Maybe it's time to bring some real accountability to the Capital Class. The policy of Too Prig to Fail is causing them, like Lehman Brothers, to make disastrous bets with other people's money.
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Mittens is endorsing Ted
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:02 PM (fizMZ)
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Awaiting for the others to catch up...................
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:03 PM (fizMZ)
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"we were not socially intermingle with them" makes Pauline Kael seem positively testicular.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:03 PM (1xUj/)
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Cruz offically GOPe.
Posted by: leumas at March 18, 2016 03:04 PM (yzshC)
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Still waiting.......................
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:04 PM (fizMZ)
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mingled. socially intermingled.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:04 PM (1xUj/)
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He notes that the Tea Party sounded the alarm bells -- and the establishment hit the snooze button for six years.
No they didn't.
They went to work to destroy it.
No they didn't.
They went to work to destroy it.
Posted by: Another Anonymous Asshole On the Internet at March 18, 2016 03:04 PM (QlyN5)
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many in the media, especially me, did not understand how they would express their alienation.
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Dude, other than via weapons, these folks' only method is through voting.
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Dude, other than via weapons, these folks' only method is through voting.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:04 PM (Qvgg/)
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Well, some respect is in order. Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams.
I certainly am surprised to read this in the paper. Are there many of these people?
I certainly am surprised to read this in the paper. Are there many of these people?
Posted by: SCOAMF, The Golfing President at March 18, 2016 03:05 PM (TxJGV)
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I have let David Brooks down. The utter shame I feel right now cannot be described.
The guy writes for the New York Times. The f***ing New York Times.
I am so very sorry that I have failed him.
The guy writes for the New York Times. The f***ing New York Times.
I am so very sorry that I have failed him.
Posted by: Furious George at March 18, 2016 03:05 PM (3GAnN)
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Every breathing person hates Ted, The Donald told us. Hardly a GOP establishment.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:05 PM (fizMZ)
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Cruz offically GOPe.
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The GOPe is planting the kiss of death on each candidate in their turn.
If they really hated Trump, they would endorse HIM
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The GOPe is planting the kiss of death on each candidate in their turn.
If they really hated Trump, they would endorse HIM
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:05 PM (Qvgg/)
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I say, I'll have a beer and give the socially intermingled fellow over there another Brandy Alexander.
Posted by: tu3031 at March 18, 2016 03:05 PM (YFFpo)
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Yes. The elite is trying a dismount of an angry, hungry tiger.
And that's just the new Hispanics and Syrians.
Wait until the American weigh in. In November.
And that's just the new Hispanics and Syrians.
Wait until the American weigh in. In November.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 18, 2016 03:06 PM (u82oZ)
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"Dude, other than via weapons, these folks' only method is through voting.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:04 PM (Qvgg/) "
Obviously they are going to express their alienation through tasteful yet artistically probing macrame.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:04 PM (Qvgg/) "
Obviously they are going to express their alienation through tasteful yet artistically probing macrame.
Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at March 18, 2016 03:06 PM (4/i9Y)
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For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country.
Umm...
Maybe talk to more taxi drivers?
Umm...
Maybe talk to more taxi drivers?
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (eZMHS)
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"These" voters....?
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (LA7Cm)
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Well heeled or Round Heeled?
Posted by: DaveA at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (DL2i+)
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David Brooks is a pompous ass.
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (a0IVu)
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Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else.
GOPe Rx:
Gummint programs to buy them off.
GOPe Rx:
Gummint programs to buy them off.
Posted by: Another Anonymous Asshole On the Internet at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (QlyN5)
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It is an important distinction worth remembering that our elite are well credentialed, not well educated. They are also fools.
Posted by: Thatch at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (pBZp4)
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What a bunch of insular idiots.
I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM (8QGte)
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David Brooks is another ass who is sure he has all the right answers.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM (fizMZ)
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The problem is there were no pant creases to highlight our displeasure.
Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2016 03:09 PM (z6DVm)
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Actually the French Revolution was all about equality, nothing else.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:09 PM (fizMZ)
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He notes that the Tea Party sounded the alarm bells -- and the establishment hit the snooze button for six yearsthem on the head with a 9-pound hammer every day since.
Posted by: DocJ at March 18, 2016 03:09 PM (zrsn3)
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I live in California. Trust me, its not too bad. Just keep your head down, your mouth shut, and think of England.
Of course, considering the massive poverty in California, expect that to spread. Commies never learn.
Maybe in 50 years, after we've had it given to us good and hard, we'll be like Eastern Europe and see the light. Maybe.
Of course, considering the massive poverty in California, expect that to spread. Commies never learn.
Maybe in 50 years, after we've had it given to us good and hard, we'll be like Eastern Europe and see the light. Maybe.
Posted by: Brendan at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (gkvx9)
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I can recall discussing with my Dad on several occasions how we thought one day the average-Joe voter was going to rise up against all the leftist establishment bullshit. And this was during the fricking Clinton administration.
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (e3bId)
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I disagree in the sense that the Republican that wants to actually become President or win their primary is not going to go anywhere near amnesty type deals or expanding work visas, etc
Even if Trump loses, I think he changes the last 30 years where basically all Republicans marched lockstep for more immigration, work visas, free trade, etc.
Even if Trump loses, I think he changes the last 30 years where basically all Republicans marched lockstep for more immigration, work visas, free trade, etc.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (b/5nT)
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What a bunch of insular idiots.
I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM
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OK, but I'm not wearing one of those stupid hats.
I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM
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OK, but I'm not wearing one of those stupid hats.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (Qvgg/)
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David Brooks is a pompous ass.
Now, now, my good man. I'll have you know that I do follow the local sports team!
Now, now, my good man. I'll have you know that I do follow the local sports team!
Posted by: David Brooks, Pompous Ass at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (YFFpo)
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The Russian revolution was all about equality.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (fizMZ)
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Let me put my Elitism in you.
Posted by: David Brooks at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (z6DVm)
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Brooks and Co. sure are pompous twits.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 18, 2016 03:11 PM (CesFO)
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All Bernie the old Bolshavik talks of nothing else but equally.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:11 PM (fizMZ)
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Yeah, but when Christie or Scott endorses Trump, Trump doesn't become GOPe, amirite?
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (UBBWX)
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What Republican is going to say "Gee, Rubio trying to force something down their throats really worked out well for him, I guess I'll try out that and see if something different happens"
Rubio was the most talented Republican politician I've seen since Reagan and he got humiliated because of one thing : gang of 8
He would be the nominee had he taken a hard line against it.
Rubio was the most talented Republican politician I've seen since Reagan and he got humiliated because of one thing : gang of 8
He would be the nominee had he taken a hard line against it.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (b/5nT)
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All Bernie the old Bolshavik talks of nothing else but equally.
Indeed, one of the hallmarks of socialism - equal misery for all.
Indeed, one of the hallmarks of socialism - equal misery for all.
Posted by: DocJ at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (zrsn3)
Posted by: Marie Antoinette at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (FKK9k)
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There's a device that professional long haul truck drivers call a "checker", which is basically a big sturdy club used to thump the sidewalls of tires on semis, to listen to the sound they make.
The late Hunter S. Thompson said that one problem with American politics is that there aren't enough tire-checker fights going on. For his part, David Brooks needs to be taken out in a back alley and beaten with one of those things till he can't stand up. He's just an absolutely reprehensible individual.
The thing which brought it home for me was listening to the PBS NewsHour, featuring commentary from Brooks and the equally repellent E.J. Dionne, in which Brooks referred to the "alleged" problems at the VA under the Obama administration. In his trademark slightly sneering tone of voice.
This was at a late enough date that considerable numbers of deaths of veterans due to VA delays had already been factually documented far beyond any reasonable doubt. And after the existence of secret waiting lists for veteran patients at VA facilities such as Phoenix had been provably unearthed.
The late Hunter S. Thompson said that one problem with American politics is that there aren't enough tire-checker fights going on. For his part, David Brooks needs to be taken out in a back alley and beaten with one of those things till he can't stand up. He's just an absolutely reprehensible individual.
The thing which brought it home for me was listening to the PBS NewsHour, featuring commentary from Brooks and the equally repellent E.J. Dionne, in which Brooks referred to the "alleged" problems at the VA under the Obama administration. In his trademark slightly sneering tone of voice.
This was at a late enough date that considerable numbers of deaths of veterans due to VA delays had already been factually documented far beyond any reasonable doubt. And after the existence of secret waiting lists for veteran patients at VA facilities such as Phoenix had been provably unearthed.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (noWW6)
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If this election truly turns on amnesty and free health care to illegals, I don't see how the democrats win, no matter who the republicans run.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (Qvgg/)
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30 What a bunch of insular idiots.
I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM
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OK, but I'm not wearing one of those stupid hats.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (Qvgg/)
Isn't "sans culottes" French for "not wearing pants?"
And what then is the standard here for attire when posting comments, I ask you, hmm???
I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM
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OK, but I'm not wearing one of those stupid hats.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (Qvgg/)
Isn't "sans culottes" French for "not wearing pants?"
And what then is the standard here for attire when posting comments, I ask you, hmm???
Posted by: filbert at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (s5o+q)
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Hildabeast talks about equality bur she's in it for herself and doesn't give a crap about equality.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (fizMZ)
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Taken as a whole, I really am seeing this cycle and likely the next as being the collapse of conservative -ism, at least in the neoconservative and WFB sense. As it dies, it's showing some very ugly roots. The neos may go home to the dems for a while, the WFBs will call everyone little shits and dumbass, and then silence.
Posted by: Bigby's Fistful of Dice at March 18, 2016 03:13 PM (cGcTh)
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So what happens if Trump gets the nod and loses?
I disagree with Ace that he's a surefire loser; he's defied every prediction of his demise to date and after months of taking brickbats to Hillary I think the polls may look very different, but let's say Ace is right and I'm wrong (it would hardly be the first time). What happens to all the crap he's been stirring up and all the crap that's been stirred up through years of neglect and outright abuse at the hands of establishment Republicans and utterly corrupt Democrats?
Is it going to form a new party, or just politely go away? I kind of doubt it. Now we have Trumpian creatures on the news arguing that riots aren't necessarily violence. Does all that just cheerfully end in early November? Trump scares me for a lot of reasons, and one of them is that this whole mess might just be getting started.
I disagree with Ace that he's a surefire loser; he's defied every prediction of his demise to date and after months of taking brickbats to Hillary I think the polls may look very different, but let's say Ace is right and I'm wrong (it would hardly be the first time). What happens to all the crap he's been stirring up and all the crap that's been stirred up through years of neglect and outright abuse at the hands of establishment Republicans and utterly corrupt Democrats?
Is it going to form a new party, or just politely go away? I kind of doubt it. Now we have Trumpian creatures on the news arguing that riots aren't necessarily violence. Does all that just cheerfully end in early November? Trump scares me for a lot of reasons, and one of them is that this whole mess might just be getting started.
Posted by: Il Padrino at March 18, 2016 03:13 PM (TasoZ)
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Why don't you just admit you expected Your Lessers to obey your pronouncements because of your self-evident superiority?
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I am less certain about that.
I am inclined to believe that like the Political Class, they view things, all things, as a chess match. Which is to say, everything is political, and is only perceived from that perspective. Ordinary life just doesn't figure into their thinking.
Family, friends, job, etc. all are just reflections, or at least no more than adjuncts to/of political thought. Should we imagine for a moment that these people walk out of the office at 5:00 and forget about their 'job' for the next 16 hours? Nope.
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I am less certain about that.
I am inclined to believe that like the Political Class, they view things, all things, as a chess match. Which is to say, everything is political, and is only perceived from that perspective. Ordinary life just doesn't figure into their thinking.
Family, friends, job, etc. all are just reflections, or at least no more than adjuncts to/of political thought. Should we imagine for a moment that these people walk out of the office at 5:00 and forget about their 'job' for the next 16 hours? Nope.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 18, 2016 03:13 PM (9mTYi)
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I can recall discussing with my Dad on several occasions how we thought
one day the average-Joe voter was going to rise up against all the
leftist establishment bullshit. And this was during the fricking
Clinton administration.
I remember my dad back in the 60's. "You see these assholes marching in the streets? Some day they'll be running things. And God fucking help you when they do."
one day the average-Joe voter was going to rise up against all the
leftist establishment bullshit. And this was during the fricking
Clinton administration.
I remember my dad back in the 60's. "You see these assholes marching in the streets? Some day they'll be running things. And God fucking help you when they do."
Posted by: tu3031 at March 18, 2016 03:13 PM (YFFpo)
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The problem is there were no pant creases to highlight our displeasure.
Blue jeans are a PIA to iron. I don't know anybody who does.
The problem is there were no pant creases to highlight our displeasure.
Blue jeans are a PIA to iron. I don't know anybody who does.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 18, 2016 03:14 PM (LUgeY)
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Ok, another application of the Fail your way to success book by Scott Adams (Dilbert), which I didn't buy because it's out of my price range.
I did read the sample text offered by Amazon and realized that I would have to repair my character defects, and change my behavior. I'm too old to change, and it's too late for me.
Now perhaps David Brooks, and others, can rehabilitate themselves with the voters, by writing what people want to read, but, you see, the country is divided. One must choose sides carefully. You need to convince those who no longer trust you, that you can be trusted, by saying what those people want to hear. At the same time you have to be careful to not alienate your fans, or you risk losing all of your credibility.
I did read the sample text offered by Amazon and realized that I would have to repair my character defects, and change my behavior. I'm too old to change, and it's too late for me.
Now perhaps David Brooks, and others, can rehabilitate themselves with the voters, by writing what people want to read, but, you see, the country is divided. One must choose sides carefully. You need to convince those who no longer trust you, that you can be trusted, by saying what those people want to hear. At the same time you have to be careful to not alienate your fans, or you risk losing all of your credibility.
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:14 PM (QoRpZ)
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Always love these people and their lateto the party assessments about Obama.
OK, sport, are you going to apologize for all the insults you directed at those of us who knew Obama was bad news back in 2008?
Because we were RIGHT, and you were WRONG.
OK, sport, are you going to apologize for all the insults you directed at those of us who knew Obama was bad news back in 2008?
Because we were RIGHT, and you were WRONG.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2016 03:14 PM (NOIQH)
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That is, when Trump loses everything -- and all indications are that he will lose everything for us, the presidency, the Senate, the courts-- the well-read-but-stupid seneschals of the Establishment will rise back to prominence.
>>>> This is actually a funny line. Which of these do we/have we had?
The Presidency? Nope
The Senate? Sure, in name but Harry Reid has been in charge
The Courts? LOL, Obamacare is a tax and all of that blather.
>>>> This is actually a funny line. Which of these do we/have we had?
The Presidency? Nope
The Senate? Sure, in name but Harry Reid has been in charge
The Courts? LOL, Obamacare is a tax and all of that blather.
Posted by: Tradd at March 18, 2016 03:14 PM (GSJcT)
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Trump's stupid, lazy white voters need to die.
Posted by: kevin williamson at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (FKK9k)
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And what then is the standard here for attire when posting comments, I ask you, hmm???
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I imagine no pants, but one of those red dew rags on your head.
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I imagine no pants, but one of those red dew rags on your head.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (Qvgg/)
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Ace, the post below and the sidebar stuff is precisely WHY Trump would win. What are the odds of some bigtime terrorist attack this summer? What happens when the illegals - many children - swarm the border this summer too?
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (m40v5)
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That is, when Trump loses everything -- and all indications are that he will lose everything for us, the presidency, the Senate, the courts-- the well-read-but-stupid seneschals of the Establishment will rise back to prominence.
There's an old saying: If you take a shot at the king, you'd best not miss.
The current trajectory we're on -- taking a shot at the Establishment princel___s with Trump, then getting blown out in the general and thereby confirming the alleged wisdom of the Capital Class -- would be a case of assassin's aiming at the king, but then all of their guns exploding in their own faces.
Exactly. The only ones, politically, that will be destroyed are conservatives. The establishment will survive because they are so used to selling out, it is in their nature to not do anything else.
Well, the conservatives wond be the only ones destroyed... America itself will have become fundamentally transformed. What America was, will be dead, and we will never be able to get it back again.
There's an old saying: If you take a shot at the king, you'd best not miss.
The current trajectory we're on -- taking a shot at the Establishment princel___s with Trump, then getting blown out in the general and thereby confirming the alleged wisdom of the Capital Class -- would be a case of assassin's aiming at the king, but then all of their guns exploding in their own faces.
Exactly. The only ones, politically, that will be destroyed are conservatives. The establishment will survive because they are so used to selling out, it is in their nature to not do anything else.
Well, the conservatives wond be the only ones destroyed... America itself will have become fundamentally transformed. What America was, will be dead, and we will never be able to get it back again.
Posted by: The Foreboden Hat at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (vBeA5)
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Is age 53 too late to learn to play golf, join the country club, and learn to speak ProgTard, so as to be swept up in the Elite Rebound and ride the coattails of the Chattering Capital Class? Asking for a friend...
Is age 53 too late to learn to play golf, join the country club, and learn to speak ProgTard, so as to be swept up in the Elite Rebound and ride the coattails of the Chattering Capital Class? Asking for a friend...
Posted by: Nihilistic Narcissist at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (WdXB6)
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>>>The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else.<<<
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Wonder what he thinks the "American System" is?
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Wonder what he thinks the "American System" is?
Posted by: Javems at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (yOqwj)
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I always think of David Brooks as living in a cabin deep in the forest. His only communication with the outside world is a ham radio that only picks up PBS.
Posted by: washrivergal at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (CFc5L)
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Why don't you just admit you expected Your Lessers to obey your pronouncements because of your self-evident superiority?
And perhaps contemplate that it is precisely this attitude -- the sneering contempt for anyone outside your small, unimaginative, well-educated-but-unimaginative drone class -- is precisely what has caused this class to lose all of its (unearned) authority?
Obligatory loathe Trump virtue signaling here.
I've taken to posting a link to the 2012 Pledge To America and asking for the puppets to be used to explain to me how it is Trump's fault that the GOP refused to abide by the pledge that the GOP made.
See, it's weird. When someone, of their own volition, sets out a written plan and then that someone, of their own volition, refers to it as a pledge and then when that someone, through their own actions and inactions, violates self-same pledge, I do believe that the problem is not me for pointing out that they were lying pathetic feckless crapweasels who need to get the hell out of my face, right this very very second you lying piles of ambergris.
Dude, this Marvel level retcon that the only reason Rubio isn't strolling into a coronation leading to his round thumping of Hillary in the general is Because Trump who, apparently, is the one who was in secret control of the GOP since at least 2010 is, how to put this, errant nonsense to say nothing of utter bullshit.
Trump is a reaction to, not a cause of, the massive betrayal of the base by the GOP. Hell hath and all that.
Speaking of SMOD, Hawaii took out Cal. BOOM go the brackets.
And perhaps contemplate that it is precisely this attitude -- the sneering contempt for anyone outside your small, unimaginative, well-educated-but-unimaginative drone class -- is precisely what has caused this class to lose all of its (unearned) authority?
Obligatory loathe Trump virtue signaling here.
I've taken to posting a link to the 2012 Pledge To America and asking for the puppets to be used to explain to me how it is Trump's fault that the GOP refused to abide by the pledge that the GOP made.
See, it's weird. When someone, of their own volition, sets out a written plan and then that someone, of their own volition, refers to it as a pledge and then when that someone, through their own actions and inactions, violates self-same pledge, I do believe that the problem is not me for pointing out that they were lying pathetic feckless crapweasels who need to get the hell out of my face, right this very very second you lying piles of ambergris.
Dude, this Marvel level retcon that the only reason Rubio isn't strolling into a coronation leading to his round thumping of Hillary in the general is Because Trump who, apparently, is the one who was in secret control of the GOP since at least 2010 is, how to put this, errant nonsense to say nothing of utter bullshit.
Trump is a reaction to, not a cause of, the massive betrayal of the base by the GOP. Hell hath and all that.
Speaking of SMOD, Hawaii took out Cal. BOOM go the brackets.
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (mf5HN)
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We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough.
At least this much is honest. I have to respect him for having enough self awareness and clarity of thought to recognize what apparently few of his peers do.
Not much though: should have realized this long ago, and shouldn't have ever happened to begin with.
It doesn't exactly take a genius to work out that doing EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you campaigned on while determinedly trying to destroy what your core fights for and believes in would result in enraged voters.
At least this much is honest. I have to respect him for having enough self awareness and clarity of thought to recognize what apparently few of his peers do.
Not much though: should have realized this long ago, and shouldn't have ever happened to begin with.
It doesn't exactly take a genius to work out that doing EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you campaigned on while determinedly trying to destroy what your core fights for and believes in would result in enraged voters.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (39g3+)
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I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM
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OK, but I'm not wearing one of those stupid hats.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
*takes pants off*
Posted by: navybrat at March 18, 2016 03:08 PM
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OK, but I'm not wearing one of those stupid hats.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
*takes pants off*
Posted by: Bandersnatch Sans Culottes at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (1xUj/)
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It's as if Brooks got hit over the head 47 times with a mallet; and on the 48th time declares "I get it."
But he still doesn't get that he's the problem, not the solution.
But he still doesn't get that he's the problem, not the solution.
Posted by: duke at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (EQNFN)
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (a0IVu)
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If this election truly turns on amnesty and free health care to illegals, I don't see how the democrats win, no matter who the republicans run.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
I'm getting close to that position myself.
Even in the bluest of states, this stuff goes down HARD.
Oregon put on the ballot drivers' licenses for illegals and the voters revolted.
if you can't win on an issue like that in Oregon, where does it sell?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
I'm getting close to that position myself.
Even in the bluest of states, this stuff goes down HARD.
Oregon put on the ballot drivers' licenses for illegals and the voters revolted.
if you can't win on an issue like that in Oregon, where does it sell?
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:16 PM (b/5nT)
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Mingles with Tingles.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 18, 2016 03:16 PM (FkBIv)
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David Brooks: Gee, I Guess Me and My Fellow Well-Heeled Establisment Swells Kind of Didn't Listen to the Voters for Years and years and years, Huh?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 18, 2016 03:16 PM (Nwg0u)
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I don't believe Cruz can beat Hillary....so WTF?
Posted by: guy without a nic at March 18, 2016 03:16 PM (gxIP7)
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Brooks strikes me as somebody who would use the phrase 'not our kind of people' in complete seriousness.
Posted by: Epobirs at March 18, 2016 03:16 PM (IdCqF)
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Brooks, you fuck-o, the American system works. It's when scum like you and those of the Left destroy it from within that makes it not work.
Dear Lord, I need to punch something.
Brooks, you fuck-o, the American system works. It's when scum like you and those of the Left destroy it from within that makes it not work.
Dear Lord, I need to punch something.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:16 PM (p4UlV)
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It's not that we don't like Trump's voters it's just that we despise them and their non-creased pants.
Posted by: David Brooks at March 18, 2016 03:16 PM (FKK9k)
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And what then is the standard here for attire when posting comments, I ask you, hmm???
Leotards
Yoga pants
Leotards
Yoga pants
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:17 PM (QoRpZ)
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Contrary, I'm thinking if Ted isn't the Republican nominee, conservatism will condense.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:17 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Another Anonymous Asshole On the Internet at March 18, 2016 03:17 PM (QlyN5)
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Moreover, many in the media, especially me, did not understand how they would express their alienation. We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough.
Pauline Kael Syndrome
Pauline Kael Syndrome
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:17 PM (8ZskC)
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Hawaii took out Cal????? Holy smokes....
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:17 PM (a0IVu)
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1 Mittens is endorsing Ted
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:02 PM (fizMZ)
I smell a big fat rat here. They'll all endorse him and when they get to the convention, they'll bribe delegates to make him fall short and then declare "hey, we endorsed him and it failed, so now let's fall behind Kasich!"
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:02 PM (fizMZ)
I smell a big fat rat here. They'll all endorse him and when they get to the convention, they'll bribe delegates to make him fall short and then declare "hey, we endorsed him and it failed, so now let's fall behind Kasich!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:17 PM (p4UlV)
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I mean really, how could anyone have seen this coming? Trump's pant creases are rumpled and gross...and trust me I've looked and looked and looked at the man's pants.
Posted by: David Brooks at March 18, 2016 03:18 PM (X7E8f)
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Exactly. The only ones, politically, that will be destroyed are conservatives.
Shouldn't have been losers, then.
What are the major Conservative wins in the past 50 years?
Leftists can point to Great Society, and ACA, and gay marriage, and all the other things that conservatives have yielded to them.
What are the conservative equivalent winnings? Welfare reform? PATRIOT Act? Iraqi War?
Shouldn't have been losers, then.
What are the major Conservative wins in the past 50 years?
Leftists can point to Great Society, and ACA, and gay marriage, and all the other things that conservatives have yielded to them.
What are the conservative equivalent winnings? Welfare reform? PATRIOT Act? Iraqi War?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:18 PM (uURQL)
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A year ago, if someone had said Trump will enter the GOP race and immediately take the lead, never lose it, and be unaffected by all the attacks made against him, what would people have said?
Now folks are saying Trump will cause an electoral disaster.
Feh.
Now folks are saying Trump will cause an electoral disaster.
Feh.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:18 PM (MQEz6)
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For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country.
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Here's an alternative: Fuck off and die.
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Here's an alternative: Fuck off and die.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 18, 2016 03:19 PM (Nwg0u)
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>>>and all indications are that he will lose everything for us, the presidency, the Senate, the courts
I was unaware we held these things.
I was unaware we held these things.
Posted by: x at March 18, 2016 03:19 PM (nFwvY)
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Brooks evidently never ventures outside the Beltway. If he did, he might just run into a few of the 94 million (with a capital "M") Americans who are out of work as a direct result of the radical leftists who infest DC.
Like me.
Brooks evidently never ventures outside the Beltway. If he did, he might just run into a few of the 94 million (with a capital "M") Americans who are out of work as a direct result of the radical leftists who infest DC.
Like me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 18, 2016 03:19 PM (LUgeY)
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Someone this morning noted that they had two chances. They could have listened to us when we took to the streets as the Tea Party. They could have listened to us when we elected tons of Republicans in 2010. They could have listened to us in 2014. But instead they tried to destroy the tea party, fought against and insulted us, then when we said "you get one more shot, f**kers" went into office and did the exact opposite of what they campaigned on. Heck they fought harder and did more to stop Obama when they were a minority than when they took both houses of congress.
You had your chance you miserable bastards. We gave you all the second chances you're going to get. You aren't a special snowflake and we ain't helicopter parents. Now comes the whipping. No matter what you do, you lose in this election. There is no step the GOP can take that will mollify and pacify our fury. Its just a question of how badly and how permanently they want to lose.
Take your best shot you puss-ridden filth. Bring it and see what you get in return.
You had your chance you miserable bastards. We gave you all the second chances you're going to get. You aren't a special snowflake and we ain't helicopter parents. Now comes the whipping. No matter what you do, you lose in this election. There is no step the GOP can take that will mollify and pacify our fury. Its just a question of how badly and how permanently they want to lose.
Take your best shot you puss-ridden filth. Bring it and see what you get in return.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:19 PM (39g3+)
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What you assholes need to do is let your intellects occasionally wander off the well-worn paths you've been treading down for 60 years. You just need to read someone who disagrees with you occasionally.
These fools live in a bubble completely insulated from popular thought but then presume to tell the nation what it really thinks.
Fuck you, Mr Ewok. I talk to taxi drivers about China ALL the time!
What you assholes need to do is let your intellects occasionally wander off the well-worn paths you've been treading down for 60 years. You just need to read someone who disagrees with you occasionally.
These fools live in a bubble completely insulated from popular thought but then presume to tell the nation what it really thinks.
Fuck you, Mr Ewok. I talk to taxi drivers about China ALL the time!
Posted by: Tom Friedman at March 18, 2016 03:19 PM (/wVDI)
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I do not disagree that Trump may very well lead to disaster (but maybe he won't). What I disagree with is that somehow these poobahs of the foppish Gope class are going to be there to pick up the pieces when/if Trump fails.
The parallel is Goldwater/64. The "fear" is Nixon being the result, but that's way too specific to the time and place.
Nobody knows how this Trump thing will turn out. Really, you don't. And what we do know is that Gope is losing NOW because they deserve to lose.
I'm not going to try to figure out how to outmaneuver them for the aftermath. Let's see who is alive and who is dead in a matter of mere months. Then we'll know what steps to take.
The parallel is Goldwater/64. The "fear" is Nixon being the result, but that's way too specific to the time and place.
Nobody knows how this Trump thing will turn out. Really, you don't. And what we do know is that Gope is losing NOW because they deserve to lose.
I'm not going to try to figure out how to outmaneuver them for the aftermath. Let's see who is alive and who is dead in a matter of mere months. Then we'll know what steps to take.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 03:19 PM (TOk1P)
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Mittens is endorsing Ted
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:02 PM (fizMZ)
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I smell a big fat rat here. They'll all endorse him and when they
get to the convention, they'll bribe delegates to make him fall short
and then declare "hey, we endorsed him and it failed, so now let's fall
behind Kasich!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016
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Possibly the GOPe is admitting defeat, ala Reagan 1980. I know it is a long shot, but you never know.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:02 PM (fizMZ)
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I smell a big fat rat here. They'll all endorse him and when they
get to the convention, they'll bribe delegates to make him fall short
and then declare "hey, we endorsed him and it failed, so now let's fall
behind Kasich!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016
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Possibly the GOPe is admitting defeat, ala Reagan 1980. I know it is a long shot, but you never know.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (Qvgg/)
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>>I mean really, how could anyone have seen this coming? Trump's pant creases are rumpled and gross...and trust me I've looked and looked and looked at the man's pants.
Posted by: David Brooks
So, about that finger thing...
Posted by: David Brooks
So, about that finger thing...
Posted by: The Donald at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (c7vUv)
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Every GOP candidate is going to be in Utah today, and Sanders will be here too. Chelsea stumped here for mamabeast earlier in week. So weird.
The only political ads I've seen on SLC TV are for friggin' Kasich. Waste of money, most likely we go for Cruz.
The only political ads I've seen on SLC TV are for friggin' Kasich. Waste of money, most likely we go for Cruz.
Posted by: LizLem at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (hvf9s)
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For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country.
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Here's an alternative: Fuck off and die.
Heh. I endorse this plan.
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Here's an alternative: Fuck off and die.
Heh. I endorse this plan.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (8ZskC)
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Are the Trump fans even going to show up for work after her thighness is coronated?
Posted by: DaveA at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (DL2i+)
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>>Wonder what he thinks the "American System" is?
Good catch - and notice how even now he is using the language of the Left: they don't see individuals, they see groups and systems of oppression keeping them down.
I don't think any "system" let me down. I see individual politicians who have intentionally enacted legislation (and ignored other things) that caused America to be in the mess that we're in today.
Good catch - and notice how even now he is using the language of the Left: they don't see individuals, they see groups and systems of oppression keeping them down.
I don't think any "system" let me down. I see individual politicians who have intentionally enacted legislation (and ignored other things) that caused America to be in the mess that we're in today.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (NOIQH)
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Yinzall have fun I gotta go shovel fish fry.
Posted by: DaveA at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (mf5HN)
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THE PEASANTS ARE REVOLTING!!!
Posted by: David Brooks at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (8ZskC)
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79
Now folks are saying Trump will cause an electoral disaster.
Feh.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:18 PM (MQEz6)
If Trump survives Cleveland, he'll win it in November. What scares me is what a Trump administration will actually do.
Talk about your enigmas inside mysteries wrapped in puzzles.
Now folks are saying Trump will cause an electoral disaster.
Feh.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:18 PM (MQEz6)
If Trump survives Cleveland, he'll win it in November. What scares me is what a Trump administration will actually do.
Talk about your enigmas inside mysteries wrapped in puzzles.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (p4UlV)
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No one falls for his bullshit but lefties and rinos.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (iQIUe)
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"As always, they dismissed it."
This is at least part of it. It didn't fit what they were hearing from other journos or the guests at their D.C. cocktail parties so it must just be static. A few cousin-fucking Jethros making noise was all.
This is at least part of it. It didn't fit what they were hearing from other journos or the guests at their D.C. cocktail parties so it must just be static. A few cousin-fucking Jethros making noise was all.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 18, 2016 03:21 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Bandersnatch (dare I say Sperm Whale?) at March 18, 2016 03:21 PM (1xUj/)
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93 Holy shit. Middle Tennessee State up 3 over MSU.
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (mf5HN)
What about the Holy Cross Crusaders?
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (mf5HN)
What about the Holy Cross Crusaders?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:21 PM (p4UlV)
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Meanwhile the border patrol in Texas is using radiation detection gear to hopefully interdict the terrorist that they know are coming over the border.
But Trump is the problem?
But Trump is the problem?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at March 18, 2016 03:21 PM (QPdNE)
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Possibly the GOPe is admitting defeat, ala Reagan 1980. I know it is a long shot, but you never know.
At this point its too damned late even if by some miracle they are. But of course they aren't. JJ is right: its a stunt to block Trump from getting enough delegates.
At this point its too damned late even if by some miracle they are. But of course they aren't. JJ is right: its a stunt to block Trump from getting enough delegates.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (39g3+)
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Jeans and t shirt works for me.
I just want to remind Trumpsters Hope and change was the last idiot who was elected, it hasn't worked the last almost 8 years why do you think 4 more will?
I just want to remind Trumpsters Hope and change was the last idiot who was elected, it hasn't worked the last almost 8 years why do you think 4 more will?
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (fizMZ)
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91 >>Wonder what he thinks the "American System" is?
Good catch - and notice how even now he is using the language of the Left: they don't see individuals, they see groups and systems of oppression keeping them down.
I don't think any "system" let me down. I see individual politicians who have intentionally enacted legislation (and ignored other things) that caused America to be in the mess that we're in today.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (NOIQH)
We have not had the American system, as founded, since 1913.
Good catch - and notice how even now he is using the language of the Left: they don't see individuals, they see groups and systems of oppression keeping them down.
I don't think any "system" let me down. I see individual politicians who have intentionally enacted legislation (and ignored other things) that caused America to be in the mess that we're in today.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (NOIQH)
We have not had the American system, as founded, since 1913.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (p4UlV)
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Well I'm highly educated and live in Southern California (retired lawyer and all that). But I suppose I'm a traitor to my class--because I think David Brooks can take a lip lock on my pants leg; well I was going to say "love muscle" but that would be bad form.
Seriously these journalist twits crawl inside their little cocoon and think they see all, know all etc. But they don't know squat. And yup, there's a good chance Trump and the Trumpistas will take us conservatives to doom in November. But then our "ruling class" hasn't done much for us either. And it's good to rattle the twits cages once in a while. The beast may reawaken in the future.
Seriously these journalist twits crawl inside their little cocoon and think they see all, know all etc. But they don't know squat. And yup, there's a good chance Trump and the Trumpistas will take us conservatives to doom in November. But then our "ruling class" hasn't done much for us either. And it's good to rattle the twits cages once in a while. The beast may reawaken in the future.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (Sda6L)
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Who ARE those people?!
Posted by: Sundance at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (gxIP7)
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What this place needs is a good enigma.
Posted by: Jake in Chinatown at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (Qvgg/)
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I thought I knew what I thought but then they told me to think something else, so OK. Who's up for some naked Twister?
I thought I knew what I thought but then they told me to think something else, so OK. Who's up for some naked Twister?
Posted by: LIV Sandra Fluke Mudflap at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (WdXB6)
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A few cousin-fucking Jethros making noise was all.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
Don't knock it. Have you seen my cousin?
A few cousin-fucking Jethros making noise was all.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill
Don't knock it. Have you seen my cousin?
Posted by: Jethro Bodine at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (FkBIv)
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28 I can recall discussing with my Dad on several occasions how we thought one day the average-Joe voter was going to rise up against all the leftist establishment bullshit. And this was during the fricking Clinton administration.
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (e3bId)
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What are you guys talking about now?
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (e3bId)
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What are you guys talking about now?
Posted by: SCOAMF, Future Stock Market Trade at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (TxJGV)
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(Ace): "And perhaps contemplate that it is precisely this attitude -- the sneering contempt for anyone outside your small, unimaginative, well-educated-but-unimaginative drone class -- is precisely what has caused this class to lose all of its (unearned) authority?"
Do mistake "expensively schooled" for "well-educated". Brooks attended an expensive school, where he learned to sneer in polysyllables and nothing else.
Do mistake "expensively schooled" for "well-educated". Brooks attended an expensive school, where he learned to sneer in polysyllables and nothing else.
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (IbUUZ)
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>>>For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country.
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Here's an alternative: Fuck off and die.
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also endorsed.
But he's part of that special class wherein serial catastrophic failures are rewarded with book deals and promotions.
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Here's an alternative: Fuck off and die.
...
also endorsed.
But he's part of that special class wherein serial catastrophic failures are rewarded with book deals and promotions.
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (dciA+)
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I wonder if Brooks should consider the possibility he has no influence--that nobody listens to him or cares what he thinks. Liberals think he's just a conservative and conservatives think he's an imbecile.
This is nothing but the sheerest speculation.
This is nothing but the sheerest speculation.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (hJrjt)
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Ambergris :
a waxlike substance that originates as a secretion in the intestines of the sperm whale, found floating in tropical seas and used in perfume manufacture.
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Whale shit, in other words.
Ambergris :
a waxlike substance that originates as a secretion in the intestines of the sperm whale, found floating in tropical seas and used in perfume manufacture.
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Whale shit, in other words.
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (QoRpZ)
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>>Speaking of SMOD, Hawaii took out Cal. BOOM go the brackets.
Every analyst I have seen this week predicted a Hawaii win. It was all but guaranteed when Cal lost their best player to injury.
Every analyst I have seen this week predicted a Hawaii win. It was all but guaranteed when Cal lost their best player to injury.
Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (z6DVm)
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Brooks is right.
I've been so ungrateful. I mean, it obviously takes advanced degrees and a lot of difficult work behind a desk to put a nation like the USA 19 trillion dollars in debt.
I've been so ungrateful. I mean, it obviously takes advanced degrees and a lot of difficult work behind a desk to put a nation like the USA 19 trillion dollars in debt.
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (IIdNI)
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Ambergris is valuable stuff.
Posted by: Bandersnatch (dare I say Sperm Whale?) at March 18, 2016 03:21 PM (1xUj/)
I thought of that after I posted.
Ahhh one of the most sought after substances in the world. Whale vomit.
Holy Cross is a 7:27 p.m. game.
Posted by: Bandersnatch (dare I say Sperm Whale?) at March 18, 2016 03:21 PM (1xUj/)
I thought of that after I posted.
Ahhh one of the most sought after substances in the world. Whale vomit.
Holy Cross is a 7:27 p.m. game.
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (mf5HN)
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101 Possibly the GOPe is admitting defeat, ala Reagan 1980. I know it is a long shot, but you never know.
At this point its too damned late even if by some miracle they are. But of course they aren't. JJ is right: its a stunt to block Trump from getting enough delegates.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (39g3+)
There is nothing wrong with a brokered convention AS IT WAS INTENDED when conceived.
It's the purposeful sabotaging of the process by Rubio and Kasich to force one that is an outrage.
At this point its too damned late even if by some miracle they are. But of course they aren't. JJ is right: its a stunt to block Trump from getting enough delegates.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:22 PM (39g3+)
There is nothing wrong with a brokered convention AS IT WAS INTENDED when conceived.
It's the purposeful sabotaging of the process by Rubio and Kasich to force one that is an outrage.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (p4UlV)
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If this election truly turns on amnesty and free health care to illegals, I don't see how the democrats win, no matter who the republicans run.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
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It won't turn on that if Trump is the nominee.
Policy won't matter.
It will all be about Trump-Trump-Trump and how vulgar and dangerous he is.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
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It won't turn on that if Trump is the nominee.
Policy won't matter.
It will all be about Trump-Trump-Trump and how vulgar and dangerous he is.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (T/5A0)
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So Kevin Williamson can write and anti-white, anti-blue collar screed and not only not face any recriminations from his bosses, he can keep his job too but Derbyshire and Steyn are fired. Yeah, no problem there at the NRO. But they are 'true conservatives' said with a Thurston Howell III inflection.
Replace the white middle class in his article with any other group, minority, or victim class and watch the fireworks.
Replace the white middle class in his article with any other group, minority, or victim class and watch the fireworks.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (FKK9k)
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Are the Trump fans even going to show up for work after her thighness is coronated?
This is a question. How many will just blow off their jobs and go on the dole? Why should you be the one to carry all the deadweight? Nobility, honor, and self respect only go so far. If that's what America wants, well hell. You pay for me, too.
This is a question. How many will just blow off their jobs and go on the dole? Why should you be the one to carry all the deadweight? Nobility, honor, and self respect only go so far. If that's what America wants, well hell. You pay for me, too.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (39g3+)
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Oh, and I switched party affiliation from independent to republican to vote for Cruz in the UT caucus. Feel slightly dirty for returning to the flock, hate the establishment GOP in my state.
*scratches ill fitting new elephant suit*
Oh and can vote online for the GOP caucus this year! If friggin' Kasich wins you know there were shenangians afoot. But I'm glad I can vote at home.
*scratches ill fitting new elephant suit*
Oh and can vote online for the GOP caucus this year! If friggin' Kasich wins you know there were shenangians afoot. But I'm glad I can vote at home.
Posted by: LizLem at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (hvf9s)
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Bruce the problem is colleges are filled with idiots who believe lefty bullshit whole line and sinker.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (fizMZ)
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Seems like Mr. Brooks is getting a whiff of the smoke from the fire set by the LiB folks.
Posted by: shinjinrui at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (4SznG)
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The problem, Mr. Brooks, is that you and all of the other Brooks Brothers never thought to find a way to keep us from shitting on your lawn after you took our landscaping job and gave it to Pedro.
Posted by: M240H at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (CmB/r)
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"Don't take this as any kind of endorsement of Trump from me -- Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster the very dimensions of which will perversely serve as a validation of the Establishment who actually caused the disaster."
I think a little tapping on the brakes is in order...just sayin. Trump will do just fine against Pant Suit Granny. How many Reps said the same thing about Trump over the past year. (He will fade!, He has a 35% ceiling...and so on) Dems will come to learn it as well. Have a great non-political weekend Ace.
I think a little tapping on the brakes is in order...just sayin. Trump will do just fine against Pant Suit Granny. How many Reps said the same thing about Trump over the past year. (He will fade!, He has a 35% ceiling...and so on) Dems will come to learn it as well. Have a great non-political weekend Ace.
Posted by: Brian at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (UnMRd)
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Mittens is endorsing Ted
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:02 PM (fizMZ)
The GOPe decides to concede a yard after the opposition has overrun the entire front line.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:02 PM (fizMZ)
The GOPe decides to concede a yard after the opposition has overrun the entire front line.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (8ZskC)
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I'm going to need another glass of Scotch to keep ip.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (fizMZ)
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Mr. Brooks, if you went camping with us shitkickers and woke up hungover with a sore ass would you tell anyone? No?
Well then, do you want to go camping?
Well then, do you want to go camping?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (1A3y7)
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I can recall discussing with my Dad on several occasions how we thought one day the average-Joe voter was going to rise up against all the leftist establishment bullshit. And this was during the fricking Clinton administration.
Posted by: Weasel
Well, they sort of did.
The Republicans had not controlled Congress in several generations until Clinton was elected.
As far as political events go, it was about an 8.0 on the Richter scale.
Posted by: Weasel
Well, they sort of did.
The Republicans had not controlled Congress in several generations until Clinton was elected.
As far as political events go, it was about an 8.0 on the Richter scale.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (b/5nT)
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What happens when the illegals - many children - swarm the border this summer too?
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (m40v5)
That's already happening. Won't make a difference if it continues.
Posted by: Soulpatchtony at March 18, 2016 03:15 PM (m40v5)
That's already happening. Won't make a difference if it continues.
Posted by: The Border Hat at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (vBeA5)
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79 A year ago, if someone had said Trump will enter the GOP race and immediately take the lead, never lose it, and be unaffected by all the attacks made against him, what would people have said?
Now folks are saying Trump will cause an electoral disaster.
Feh.
Posted by: eman
That's pretty much my take.
Every single prognostication, every poll, every pundit, all of them proved to be 100% wrong when it came to predicted Trump's performance.
I'm agnostic on Trump -- I will vote for Cruz in the primary, but will vote for ANYONE running against Hillary, and that includes Trump -- but I sure as heck do not trust any polls or any pronouncements that Trump is doomed to fail.
People have all sorts of reasons for announcing "Trump is domed to fail," but almost none of those reasons involve the actual belief that Trump is actually doomed to fail.
Now folks are saying Trump will cause an electoral disaster.
Feh.
Posted by: eman
That's pretty much my take.
Every single prognostication, every poll, every pundit, all of them proved to be 100% wrong when it came to predicted Trump's performance.
I'm agnostic on Trump -- I will vote for Cruz in the primary, but will vote for ANYONE running against Hillary, and that includes Trump -- but I sure as heck do not trust any polls or any pronouncements that Trump is doomed to fail.
People have all sorts of reasons for announcing "Trump is domed to fail," but almost none of those reasons involve the actual belief that Trump is actually doomed to fail.
Posted by: zombie at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (jBuUi)
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Don't knock it. Have you seen my cousin?
Posted by: Jethro Bodine
He's got a point, boys. My cousins were pretty hot, too.
Posted by: Jethro Bodine
He's got a point, boys. My cousins were pretty hot, too.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (39g3+)
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86 Possibly the GOPe is admitting defeat, ala Reagan 1980. I know it is a long shot, but you never know.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (Qvgg/)
They only did that when Pappy Bush and Howard Baker were eliminated in the primaries, no? I think Reagan PBUH got the 1,237 before the convention.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (Qvgg/)
They only did that when Pappy Bush and Howard Baker were eliminated in the primaries, no? I think Reagan PBUH got the 1,237 before the convention.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (p4UlV)
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I like turtles!
Posted by: David Brooks at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (gxIP7)
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I'm looking forward to November 8. At least the hand wringing stops. Of course, the drinking starts. We just don't know yet whether it's celebratory or to dull the pain. Might even be both!
TO THE BANANA BUGGIES!!!!
TRA LA LA
LA LA LA LA
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TO THE BANANA BUGGIES!!!!
TRA LA LA
LA LA LA LA
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LA LA LA LA
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (S4Ydj)
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106 What this place needs is a good enigma.
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A good enema is exactly what's needed!
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A good enema is exactly what's needed!
Posted by: Donald Trump, On Washington at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (TxJGV)
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That is, when Trump loses everything -- and all indications are that he will lose everything for us, the presidency, the Senate, the courts
Oh yea of little faith. I mean sure, looking at recent history, having control of the House and Senate has achieved just what exactly? The Supreme Court? Spare me.
Tired of being shat upon. Trump is the 'fuck you' response to those who have fucked over the most important group in this country -- the people who go to work every day and pay the taxes that these shit-for-brains politicians hand out like candy to little children.
I could be wrong about Trumps appeal. I remember all the naysayers when Reagan ran the first time. I'm seeing the same exact arguments now that I saw then.
Sure I prefer Cruz. But the people are speaking.
Oh yea of little faith. I mean sure, looking at recent history, having control of the House and Senate has achieved just what exactly? The Supreme Court? Spare me.
Tired of being shat upon. Trump is the 'fuck you' response to those who have fucked over the most important group in this country -- the people who go to work every day and pay the taxes that these shit-for-brains politicians hand out like candy to little children.
I could be wrong about Trumps appeal. I remember all the naysayers when Reagan ran the first time. I'm seeing the same exact arguments now that I saw then.
Sure I prefer Cruz. But the people are speaking.
Posted by: mega machines at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (fbovC)
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Oh and can vote online for the GOP caucus this year! If friggin' Kasich wins you know there were shenangians afoot. But I'm glad I can vote at home.
Posted by: LizLem at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (hvf9s)
*shoves booze and lemon bars through USB port for you*
Posted by: LizLem at March 18, 2016 03:24 PM (hvf9s)
*shoves booze and lemon bars through USB port for you*
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (mf5HN)
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Or, as I like to say: David Brooks demands that a government program be set up which can introduce him to his doorman dry cleaner.FIFY.
Posted by: a440hz at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (FAPxv)
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My guess it's Trump or Cruz, pick,no one else will pass the muster. Listening to Rush on the way home sounds like he's thinking the same thing.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (fizMZ)
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Are the Trump fans even going to show up for work after her thighness is coronated?
Posted by: DaveA at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (DL2i+)
In that same Emerson Poll that Ace just cited, "her thighness" is beating Senator Cruz by 31 points.
What will the Cruz be doing in the same situation?
Posted by: DaveA at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (DL2i+)
In that same Emerson Poll that Ace just cited, "her thighness" is beating Senator Cruz by 31 points.
What will the Cruz be doing in the same situation?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (WVsWD)
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I see not the slightest indication that Mr. T has a chance in the General. Crowing about scoring 40% of the presumably most ardent supporters just doesn't move me.
I understand the wishful thinking of those who support the guy, but the indicators, any indicators, just are not there. In point of fact, all of the indicators are negative. Pipe dreams about crossover voters are just that, I'm afraid.
This is not a (I hope) an emotional judgement, just what appears to be a simple reality. I don't make the news, I just report it.
I understand the wishful thinking of those who support the guy, but the indicators, any indicators, just are not there. In point of fact, all of the indicators are negative. Pipe dreams about crossover voters are just that, I'm afraid.
This is not a (I hope) an emotional judgement, just what appears to be a simple reality. I don't make the news, I just report it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (9mTYi)
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gee mitt, where was your cruz endorsement when you were shilling for kasich last week?!!
Posted by: concrete girl at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (ceWrl)
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What happens when the illegals - many children - swarm the border this summer too?
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That is just more democrat voters getting in on the game. If you think they aren't voting in this election, you're fooling yourself.
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That is just more democrat voters getting in on the game. If you think they aren't voting in this election, you're fooling yourself.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (Qvgg/)
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It would be nice to see the GOPe admit the following:
1) Obama was not a moderate, and he has badly damaged the country.
2) The GOPe has not been focused on the needs and wants of the Republican electorate, and therefore will change course on immigration (and other issues).
3) That the tea party, Cruz, Paul, etc were right - and specifically apologize to them.
4) That the GOPe has been primarily to blame in the disagreements with it and the base.
Its not going to happen...but it would help a lot in smoothing issues...
1) Obama was not a moderate, and he has badly damaged the country.
2) The GOPe has not been focused on the needs and wants of the Republican electorate, and therefore will change course on immigration (and other issues).
3) That the tea party, Cruz, Paul, etc were right - and specifically apologize to them.
4) That the GOPe has been primarily to blame in the disagreements with it and the base.
Its not going to happen...but it would help a lot in smoothing issues...
Posted by: 18-1 at March 18, 2016 03:27 PM (X7E8f)
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This affair is beginning to remind me of Robert the Bruce arguing with Willam Wallace that we, "Need the nobles."
Posted by: Crom's Dirty Underpants at March 18, 2016 03:27 PM (xudgf)
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The official first draft of the David Brooks Introspection:
1. Walter Duranty is my role model.
2. I spent years sucking JEFs dick.
3. Who knew that there would be a downside to this?
1. Walter Duranty is my role model.
2. I spent years sucking JEFs dick.
3. Who knew that there would be a downside to this?
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 18, 2016 03:27 PM (326rv)
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143 gee mitt, where was your cruz endorsement when you were shilling for kasich last week?!!
Posted by: concrete girl at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (ceWrl)
Smoke. Mirrors. Some assembly required.
Posted by: concrete girl at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (ceWrl)
Smoke. Mirrors. Some assembly required.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (kdS6q)
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Has David Brooks connected disastrous Obama policy with all those "folks" who are getting shafted by them?
Posted by: Seems legit at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (U+nHb)
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I'm agnostic on Trump -- I will vote for Cruz in the primary, but will vote for ANYONE running against Hillary, and that includes Trump -- but I sure as heck do not trust any polls or any pronouncements that Trump is doomed to fail.
Ditto. Exactly.
Ditto. Exactly.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (8ZskC)
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Dang. HTML crap didn't work. "Doorman" was supposed to be strikethrough. Why are these cool buttons here when they don't work? #thatsWhatSheSaid
Posted by: a440hz at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (FAPxv)
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From Romney's Facebook:
This week, in the Utah nominating caucus, I will vote for Senator Ted Cruz.
Today, there is a contest between Trumpism and Republicanism. Through the calculated statements of its leader, Trumpism has become associated with racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia, vulgarity and, most recently, threats and violence. I am repulsed by each and every one of these.
The only path that remains to nominate a Republican rather than Mr. Trump is to have an open convention. At this stage, the only way we can reach an open convention is for Senator Cruz to be successful in as many of the remaining nominating elections as possible.
I like Governor John Kasich. I have campaigned with him. He has a solid record as governor. I would have voted for him in Ohio. But a vote for Governor Kasich in future contests makes it extremely likely that Trumpism would prevail.
I will vote for Senator Cruz and I encourage others to do so as well, so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican.
This week, in the Utah nominating caucus, I will vote for Senator Ted Cruz.
Today, there is a contest between Trumpism and Republicanism. Through the calculated statements of its leader, Trumpism has become associated with racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia, vulgarity and, most recently, threats and violence. I am repulsed by each and every one of these.
The only path that remains to nominate a Republican rather than Mr. Trump is to have an open convention. At this stage, the only way we can reach an open convention is for Senator Cruz to be successful in as many of the remaining nominating elections as possible.
I like Governor John Kasich. I have campaigned with him. He has a solid record as governor. I would have voted for him in Ohio. But a vote for Governor Kasich in future contests makes it extremely likely that Trumpism would prevail.
I will vote for Senator Cruz and I encourage others to do so as well, so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican.
Posted by: leumas at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (yzshC)
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132 Don't knock it. Have you seen my cousin?
Posted by: Jethro Bodine
He's got a point, boys. My cousins were pretty hot, too.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (39g3+)
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Have you seen Ivanka?
132 Don't knock it. Have you seen my cousin?
Posted by: Jethro Bodine
He's got a point, boys. My cousins were pretty hot, too.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:25 PM (39g3+)
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Have you seen Ivanka?
Posted by: Teh Donaldo at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (TxJGV)
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37 What Republican is going to say "Gee, Rubio trying to force something down their throats really worked out well for him, I guess I'll try out that and see if something different happens"
Rubio was the most talented Republican politician I've seen since Reagan and he got humiliated because of one thing : gang of 8
He would be the nominee had he taken a hard line against it.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (b/5nT)
Certainly an interesting type of talent.
Rubio was the most talented Republican politician I've seen since Reagan and he got humiliated because of one thing : gang of 8
He would be the nominee had he taken a hard line against it.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (b/5nT)
Certainly an interesting type of talent.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (MQEz6)
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Can't we go back to our old time-honored values? You know, where we whistle the tune and you dance to it?
- David "Crease Evaluator" Brooks
- David "Crease Evaluator" Brooks
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (Nwg0u)
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For fucks sake Ace I cant take it anymore. I sit here having lost my job of 10 years, my new job pays about 1/3 of what I used to make. The wife got downsized too, YEA. You want me to vote for another POS politician who will screw me faster than clinton does an intern. Yes I know "Cruz is different", he is a fucking politician with a wife that is a globalist who works for goldman sachs for gods sake. Maybe you Cruzers should read some of her shit. She's the one laying in bed with him every night whispering vote for the TPP baby and and then vote against it. I don't give a flying fuck about Trump's past positions, just close the damn border deport the scum and get back to me. Every fucking day some illegals come into the wife's store with a welfare card with a couple grand on it and driving a new ride. Every single politician can eat a bag of shit I'm done with them all.
Posted by: 300 at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (k/l50)
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I wrote this in 2012:
"We're turning into a Borg society -- a combine of government and some segments of corporate America. We've gotten here slowly, by degrees, over many decades. But we've just recently passed the point where the Borg has become un-financeable with Old School market-based taxation. That's because the non-Borg private sector doesn't make enough to support the Borg through taxes. We're now part way to a centralized command economy where we all get paid in government scrip laundered through the Fed and redeemable only at the Borg company store.
"If you work in the Borg you're more likely to get paid based on where you sit, how insulated you are, and how much political juice you have, than on traditional metrics of hard work equals reward."
I'd now add that there are PC admission tests to join the Borg. And if you're not in the Borg, you might as well FOAD.
"We're turning into a Borg society -- a combine of government and some segments of corporate America. We've gotten here slowly, by degrees, over many decades. But we've just recently passed the point where the Borg has become un-financeable with Old School market-based taxation. That's because the non-Borg private sector doesn't make enough to support the Borg through taxes. We're now part way to a centralized command economy where we all get paid in government scrip laundered through the Fed and redeemable only at the Borg company store.
"If you work in the Borg you're more likely to get paid based on where you sit, how insulated you are, and how much political juice you have, than on traditional metrics of hard work equals reward."
I'd now add that there are PC admission tests to join the Borg. And if you're not in the Borg, you might as well FOAD.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (r1fLd)
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Or, as I like to say: David Brooks demands that a government program be set up which can introduce him to his doorman dry cleaner.FIFY.
Posted by: a440hz at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (FAPxv)
Oh sheesh I'd forgotten about the Summer Camp for Grown Ups thingy.
Posted by: a440hz at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (FAPxv)
Oh sheesh I'd forgotten about the Summer Camp for Grown Ups thingy.
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (mf5HN)
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What this place needs is a good enigma.
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Well, they are now making reproductions, so...
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Well, they are now making reproductions, so...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (9mTYi)
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pretty amazing that people prefer a vindictive criminal incompetent like Clinton to an evangelical smartypants like Cruz
I guess "vindictive criminal incompetent" isn't perceived as a threat
I guess "vindictive criminal incompetent" isn't perceived as a threat
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (IIdNI)
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>>> How many Reps said the same thing about Trump over the past year. (He will fade!, He has a 35% ceiling...and so on)
indeed! His ceiling has surged all the way to 37.1% (the average vote he receives in the states he wins).
indeed! His ceiling has surged all the way to 37.1% (the average vote he receives in the states he wins).
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (dciA+)
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zombie takes down the Trump hairstyle, 'he's domed to fail'.
Posted by: mega machines at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (fbovC)
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After the vast raping that the culture and law has suffered over the last five years or so... its time for some payback.
I do think there should be a general "strike" if Hillary wins. The very next day, just stay home. I'm not kidding.
I know, its easy for me to say -- I don't have a job like that, I write at home. But I think it would make a pretty huge point if all the producers just took a while off and went on unemployment etc. Just shut the damn country down. All the people who work and keep things going, produce and make it happen, the people who know how bad Hillary will be: just shut it down. Shut it all down.
I do think there should be a general "strike" if Hillary wins. The very next day, just stay home. I'm not kidding.
I know, its easy for me to say -- I don't have a job like that, I write at home. But I think it would make a pretty huge point if all the producers just took a while off and went on unemployment etc. Just shut the damn country down. All the people who work and keep things going, produce and make it happen, the people who know how bad Hillary will be: just shut it down. Shut it all down.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (39g3+)
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Unite behind Cruz . . . or Lose.
Posted by: starboardhelm at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (hOtJL)
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141 Are the Trump fans even going to show up for work after her thighness is coronated?
Posted by: DaveA at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (DL2i+)
In that same Emerson Poll that Ace just cited, "her thighness" is beating Senator Cruz by 31 points.
What will the Cruz be doing in the same situation?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (WVsWD)
It's helpful to remember that Ronald Reagan was losing to Jimmy Carter by about 12 points like two or three days before the election.
Something for both Trump and Cruz supporters to think. Let's not get wobbly.
Posted by: DaveA at March 18, 2016 03:20 PM (DL2i+)
In that same Emerson Poll that Ace just cited, "her thighness" is beating Senator Cruz by 31 points.
What will the Cruz be doing in the same situation?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (WVsWD)
It's helpful to remember that Ronald Reagan was losing to Jimmy Carter by about 12 points like two or three days before the election.
Something for both Trump and Cruz supporters to think. Let's not get wobbly.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (p4UlV)
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>>But he's part of that special class wherein serial catastrophic failures are rewarded with book deals and promotions.
And addicted to ritual public self-reflection, followed by....not changing one bit.
Seriously, this reminds me of the regular bouts of media navel-gazing after, say, 24/4 flood the zone reporting on Michael Jackson's death - "Hmmm, did we spend too much time on that story? Probably. Up next, Kim Kardashian posted a nekkid selfie!!!!"
And addicted to ritual public self-reflection, followed by....not changing one bit.
Seriously, this reminds me of the regular bouts of media navel-gazing after, say, 24/4 flood the zone reporting on Michael Jackson's death - "Hmmm, did we spend too much time on that story? Probably. Up next, Kim Kardashian posted a nekkid selfie!!!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (NOIQH)
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"the Borg has become un-financeable with Old School market-based taxation. That's because the non-Borg private sector doesn't make enough to support the Borg through taxes. We're now part way to a centralized command economy "
that's pretty close to being right, I think
that's pretty close to being right, I think
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (IIdNI)
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Can't we go back to our old time-honored values? You know, where we whistle the tune and you dance to it?
- David "Crease Evaluator" Brooks
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Sorry.
*hands bill*
- David "Crease Evaluator" Brooks
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Sorry.
*hands bill*
Posted by: The Piper at March 18, 2016 03:30 PM (9mTYi)
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If I believed all of the polls out there, both socialism and anti-Americanism wins in the US by a minimum of 20 points.
That's a load of crap.
That's a load of crap.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:30 PM (Qvgg/)
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>>>>For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country.
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.There is a tiny small sliver of hope left yet.
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.There is a tiny small sliver of hope left yet.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 18, 2016 03:30 PM (iONHu)
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The only useful thing Brookes has done in the last 15 years is coin the term Bobos in place of Yuppies.
Posted by: Wendy at March 18, 2016 03:30 PM (bpemY)
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I see a Cruz/Romney consolation ticket to reunite the Republican Party.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 18, 2016 03:30 PM (eZMHS)
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I rather quite anti-Trump. However, in the spirit of olive branches, perhaps both sides of the Trump question can agree that this speaks to the situation:
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: [stands up]
Boon: [stands up] Let's do it.
Bluto: [shouting] "Let's do it"!
[all of the Deltas stand up and run out with Bluto]
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic... but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: [stands up]
Boon: [stands up] Let's do it.
Bluto: [shouting] "Let's do it"!
[all of the Deltas stand up and run out with Bluto]
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:31 PM (1xUj/)
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Isn't "sans culottes" French for "not wearing pants?"
And what then is the standard here for attire when posting comments, I ask you, hmm???
Posted by: filbert at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (s5o+q)
None of you homos better call me "sans culottes". It's French and therefore, lame.
Isn't "sans culottes" French for "not wearing pants?"
And what then is the standard here for attire when posting comments, I ask you, hmm???
Posted by: filbert at March 18, 2016 03:12 PM (s5o+q)
None of you homos better call me "sans culottes". It's French and therefore, lame.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 18, 2016 03:31 PM (/wVDI)
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If Trump gets the nomination, I foresee him ripping the living shit out of the Barking Bitch, every day. Honestly, I don't see Cruz doing that kind of spadework.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:31 PM (8ZskC)
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The guy with the sack over his head was shot in the leg so it must be the terrorist.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 18, 2016 03:31 PM (iQIUe)
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"certain electoral defeat"...whats the word?...Bullshit.
Posted by: nip at March 18, 2016 03:31 PM (r73Jl)
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It would be nice to see the GOPe admit the following...
It wouldn't save the party but at least they'd avoid the sound beating they have coming if they step out of their blue bood enclaves.
It wouldn't save the party but at least they'd avoid the sound beating they have coming if they step out of their blue bood enclaves.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:31 PM (39g3+)
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Well Romney just endorsed Cruz. GOPe gotta GOPe I suppose....
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (kXzR8)
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I like Governor John Kasich. I have campaigned with him. He has a solid
record as governor. I would have voted for him in Ohio. But a vote for
Governor Kasich in future contests makes it extremely likely that
Trumpism would prevail.
Kasich said he wanted an amnesty bill on his desk within 100 days of becoming president. He's part of the problem.
record as governor. I would have voted for him in Ohio. But a vote for
Governor Kasich in future contests makes it extremely likely that
Trumpism would prevail.
Kasich said he wanted an amnesty bill on his desk within 100 days of becoming president. He's part of the problem.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (YEelc)
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150 Has David Brooks connected disastrous Obama policy with all those "folks" who are getting shafted by them?
Posted by: Seems legit at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (U+nHb)
David Brooks lives in DC, which is comprised of the 5 wealthiest counties in the nation. He us completely disconnected and oblivious to what is happening in the rest of the nation, nor does he give a shit.
He is emblematic of the disease infecting the nation.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (U+nHb)
David Brooks lives in DC, which is comprised of the 5 wealthiest counties in the nation. He us completely disconnected and oblivious to what is happening in the rest of the nation, nor does he give a shit.
He is emblematic of the disease infecting the nation.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (p4UlV)
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I believe Trump does have a chance to win only because Hillary is such a horrible , unlikable candidate and her base will not make an effort to get out the vote. The only caveat is that Trump has to avoid getting in his own way by saying outrageous and ignorant things during the general. That may not be possible.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (PMkYS)
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Why in the hell would i ever want to spend time with brooks? He'd start talking and I'd resist the temptation to drop kick his effeminate ass to Mexico for about 20 seconds. Then Mexico declares war. Huh, maybe then we'd secure the border. I need plane tickets!
Posted by: adampm at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (4Gmnk)
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How can the same people say Trump is doomed because of the polls, but then ignore polls like this
General Election March 1
Cruz vs. Sanders CNN/ORC Sanders 57, Cruz 40
So Sanders beats Cruz by 17 points?
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
CNN/ORC Sanders 55, Trump 43
But Trump fares MUCH better than Cruz?
We all know that Cruz would probably beat Bernie Sanders in an election, so why is it so crazy for some people to see a plausible path for Trump?
General Election March 1
Cruz vs. Sanders CNN/ORC Sanders 57, Cruz 40
So Sanders beats Cruz by 17 points?
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
CNN/ORC Sanders 55, Trump 43
But Trump fares MUCH better than Cruz?
We all know that Cruz would probably beat Bernie Sanders in an election, so why is it so crazy for some people to see a plausible path for Trump?
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (b/5nT)
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I'm just the most happiest that it's looking like I'm going to get to vote for Ted with meaning after all.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (fizMZ)
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I hate Drumpf. But I'm getting sick and tired of hearing how low, and stupid and ill-informed Drumpf supporters are from people who are as willfully ignorant, venal and vain as those who support Hillary or Bernie must be.
Posted by: starboardhelm at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (hOtJL)
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173 I see a Cruz/Romney consolation ticket to reunite the Republican Party.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 18, 2016 03:30 PM (eZMHS)
I love Ted Cruz but that would be too much to swallow. I cannot see him doing that.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 18, 2016 03:30 PM (eZMHS)
I love Ted Cruz but that would be too much to swallow. I cannot see him doing that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (p4UlV)
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>>> *shoves booze and lemon bars through USB port for you* Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (mf5HN)
Awwwww, a present from the empress!!
*happily noms on lemon bars*
*saves booze for sister when she visits*
Awwwww, a present from the empress!!
*happily noms on lemon bars*
*saves booze for sister when she visits*
Posted by: LizLem at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (QoRpZ)
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I'm thinking Kasich cut a deal with Trump which is why Romney is backing Cruz.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (b/5nT)
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Ambergris :
a waxlike substance that originates as a secretion in the intestines of the sperm whale, found floating in tropical seas and used in perfume manufacture.
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Whale shit, in other words.
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (QoRpZ)
Actually, it's whale vomit.
a waxlike substance that originates as a secretion in the intestines of the sperm whale, found floating in tropical seas and used in perfume manufacture.
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Whale shit, in other words.
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (QoRpZ)
Actually, it's whale vomit.
Posted by: Ahab's Hat at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (vBeA5)
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If Trump gets the nomination, I foresee him ripping the living shit out of the Barking Bitch, every day. Honestly, I don't see Cruz doing that kind of spadework.
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I won't support Trump, but I will be amused with the campaign I'm sure. Honestly, nothing would surprise me. Trump winning all 50 states. Sure. Losing all 50 states. I can see it. Barely squeaking by or barely losing. Anything is possible this year.
Doesn't say much for our country and this time, if these are the two best we can come up with.
Maybe 2020 will be better.
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I won't support Trump, but I will be amused with the campaign I'm sure. Honestly, nothing would surprise me. Trump winning all 50 states. Sure. Losing all 50 states. I can see it. Barely squeaking by or barely losing. Anything is possible this year.
Doesn't say much for our country and this time, if these are the two best we can come up with.
Maybe 2020 will be better.
Posted by: SH at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (gmeXX)
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I will vote for Senator Cruz and I encourage others to do so as well, so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican.
Posted by: leumas at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (yzshC)
Note that it is not so that Cruz can become the nominee at the convention. Its just that you have to vote for him so a "Republican" can be nominated. He doesn't want Cruz to win. He just wants Cruz to deny Trump the victory.
Posted by: leumas at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (yzshC)
Note that it is not so that Cruz can become the nominee at the convention. Its just that you have to vote for him so a "Republican" can be nominated. He doesn't want Cruz to win. He just wants Cruz to deny Trump the victory.
Posted by: buzzion at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (z/Ubi)
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If I believed all of the polls out there, both socialism and anti-Americanism wins in the US by a minimum of 20 points.
That's a load of crap.
Its either a load of crap or its time to prepare. Either way, things ain't turning out the way some have planned.
That's a load of crap.
Its either a load of crap or its time to prepare. Either way, things ain't turning out the way some have planned.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (39g3+)
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That is, when Trump loses everything -- and all indications are that he will lose everything for us, the presidency, the Senate, the courts
That's if he gets the nomination.
If he gets screwed out of the nomination, we probably get the same result, with the chorus of F this.
If we actually get someone that WE nominated, there might be a chance.
That's if he gets the nomination.
If he gets screwed out of the nomination, we probably get the same result, with the chorus of F this.
If we actually get someone that WE nominated, there might be a chance.
Posted by: Blue Hen at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (326rv)
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-- the sneering contempt for anyone outside your small, unimaginative, well-educated-but-unimaginative drone class
Brooks is the very archetype of the new intellectual: glib, but without eloquence, educated, but without wisdom, and smug, without great accomplishment.
Brooks is the very archetype of the new intellectual: glib, but without eloquence, educated, but without wisdom, and smug, without great accomplishment.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (rwI+c)
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I smell a big fat rat here. They'll all endorse him and when they
get to the convention, they'll bribe delegates to make him fall short
and then declare "hey, we endorsed him and it failed, so now let's fall
behind Kasich!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016
One of the hardest things about running for elective office is the actual running. So when you take an entity like Gope, they have people like kasich and Mario around because they will take on the hard task of actually, you know, running.
Once the mask comes off, once Gope has to wrest this thing away from Trump or whomever, they would no longer NEED to rely on the runners. Their job is through. No one ever thought kasich ever had a chance of winning this damned thing, and frankly I think Mario was a panic choice to lead the charge when he was called into that role.
No, when Gope rips the nomination away from Trump or Cruz, they'll be free to ride their own mule into the November disaster. They'll pick a senior statesman. I am sure of it.
Orrin Hatch, sit by the phone. We have to talk to Chuck Grassley first, but don't go far.
get to the convention, they'll bribe delegates to make him fall short
and then declare "hey, we endorsed him and it failed, so now let's fall
behind Kasich!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016
One of the hardest things about running for elective office is the actual running. So when you take an entity like Gope, they have people like kasich and Mario around because they will take on the hard task of actually, you know, running.
Once the mask comes off, once Gope has to wrest this thing away from Trump or whomever, they would no longer NEED to rely on the runners. Their job is through. No one ever thought kasich ever had a chance of winning this damned thing, and frankly I think Mario was a panic choice to lead the charge when he was called into that role.
No, when Gope rips the nomination away from Trump or Cruz, they'll be free to ride their own mule into the November disaster. They'll pick a senior statesman. I am sure of it.
Orrin Hatch, sit by the phone. We have to talk to Chuck Grassley first, but don't go far.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM (TOk1P)
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I love that Trump's ad just shows Hillary barking like a dog.
That level of mockery is priceless.
Imagine Jeb doing something that infuriatingly juvenile.
Hillary will lose it.
That level of mockery is priceless.
Imagine Jeb doing something that infuriatingly juvenile.
Hillary will lose it.
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM (IIdNI)
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David Brooks is an entitled, pompous , government bureaucrat masquerading as a 'journalist'.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM (T5Ui0)
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Romney endorsing Cruz isn't the establishment admitting defeat, it's the establishment still trying to bargain.
Posted by: Another Anonymous Asshole On the Internet at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM (QlyN5)
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If I were advising Cruz, I'd tell him to reject the Romney endorsement
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (Qvgg/)
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (WVsWD)
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191 I'm thinking Kasich cut a deal with Trump which is why Romney is backing Cruz.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (b/5nT)
This is what I don't get. Kasich is the Establishment. Amnesty. So why risk electing Cruz who is dead set against it, when having Hilary in there ensures it?
WTF?
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:33 PM (b/5nT)
This is what I don't get. Kasich is the Establishment. Amnesty. So why risk electing Cruz who is dead set against it, when having Hilary in there ensures it?
WTF?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (p4UlV)
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""Don't take this as any kind of endorsement of Trump from me -- Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster the very dimensions of which will perversely serve as a validation of the Establishment who actually caused the disaster."
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Plan to be wrong until the end, huh? LOL
Trump has beaten 16 other candidates but only one of the losers would beat Hillary? That's some bassackwards thinking.
Trump is going to win in a landslide.
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Plan to be wrong until the end, huh? LOL
Trump has beaten 16 other candidates but only one of the losers would beat Hillary? That's some bassackwards thinking.
Trump is going to win in a landslide.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (FKK9k)
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bullseye, grumpy
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (IIdNI)
Posted by: fixerupper at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (LA7Cm)
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Karl Marx and Ted Cruz in the same sentence?
Fuck You, Douchebag Brooks.
Go sniff TFG's well creased ass.
Fuck You, Douchebag Brooks.
Go sniff TFG's well creased ass.
Posted by: Joe Mama at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (zGcgE)
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203 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (p4UlV)
Wasn't meant for you there J.J.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (WVsWD)
Don't know what you're referring to but no offense taken.
Wasn't meant for you there J.J.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (WVsWD)
Don't know what you're referring to but no offense taken.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:36 PM (p4UlV)
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None of you homos better call me "sans culottes". It's French and therefore, lame.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Lighten up Chien Derange'
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Lighten up Chien Derange'
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:36 PM (1xUj/)
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The "Burn It All" voters aren't teaching the lesson to the Establishment that they think they are. The GOPe will, somewhat as Ace noted, never pay a lick of attention to the Trump wing again. And because they believe the Trump wing is what we know as The Base, the Trump wing has screwed The Base, too.
Posted by: spongeworthy at March 18, 2016 03:36 PM (mrfTe)
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Churchill said it best when he said that the best argument against Democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:36 PM (PMkYS)
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America: the boning continues.
There simply aren't enough people who believe in conservative principles and traditional values to make a difference anymore.
America: the boning continues.
There simply aren't enough people who believe in conservative principles and traditional values to make a difference anymore.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (ODxAs)
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My God, but Ace is ON FIRE! Bring the PAIN, Ace! Start chunking hammers, and let's see who falls!
Posted by: Sam Adams at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (DbadI)
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Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster...ace
These pollsters have proven themselves to be worthless and most predictions regarding Trump's chances have been wrong.
SF and West Hollywood have demonstrated support (in front of my own astonished eyes) for Trump.
These pollsters have proven themselves to be worthless and most predictions regarding Trump's chances have been wrong.
SF and West Hollywood have demonstrated support (in front of my own astonished eyes) for Trump.
Posted by: Jeff E at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (QBXdZ)
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If Trump gets the nomination, I foresee him ripping the living shit out of the Barking Bitch, every day. Honestly, I don't see Cruz doing that kind of spadework.
As much as I like Ted Cruz, I agree. He'd go after her but it would be on substantive issues and policy rather than just ripping her a new hoop every day.
Watching her shrieking, blood vessel popping response would be hilarious. It would start with cackling, uncontrolled laughter and coughing, but eventually the mask would come off.
As much as I like Ted Cruz, I agree. He'd go after her but it would be on substantive issues and policy rather than just ripping her a new hoop every day.
Watching her shrieking, blood vessel popping response would be hilarious. It would start with cackling, uncontrolled laughter and coughing, but eventually the mask would come off.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (39g3+)
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>>>That is, when Trump loses everything -- and all indications are that he will lose everything for us, the presidency, the Senate, the courts-- the well-read-but-stupid seneschals of the Establishment will rise back to prominence.
Oh, I don't see much "rising back" happening any time soon.
Oh, I don't see much "rising back" happening any time soon.
Posted by: Max Power at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (LA7Cm)
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I'd be more than willing to see Cruz vs Hildabeast. Independents can choose a should be federal criminal or Ted. D's wouldn't care if Hildabeast slaughtered puppy's on Times Square they will still vote for her.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (fizMZ)
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Romney is not really 'endorsing' Cruz. He just does not want Trump to get to the 1237 and therefore at the convention, he might be able to finagle his name onto the ticket. Cruz should tell him and Graham to shove their endorsements up their asses.
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (a0IVu)
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I love that Trump's ad just shows Hillary barking like a dog.
Hillary will lose it.
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM/
Nah, she has already taken that ad, edited it, and turned it right around on The Donald. If you are a Hillary fan, you will love it.
Weasel Zippers I think.
Hillary will lose it.
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM/
Nah, she has already taken that ad, edited it, and turned it right around on The Donald. If you are a Hillary fan, you will love it.
Weasel Zippers I think.
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (QoRpZ)
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>>> I love that Trump's ad just shows Hillary barking like a dog.
That level of mockery is priceless.
Imagine Jeb doing something that infuriatingly juvenile.
Hillary will lose it.
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is there any way we can establish a metric to judge the efficacy of this ad? Any bets as to hillary losing poll standing or anything?
I just keep waiting for evidence of all these wonders Trump is alleged to be bringing our way.
That level of mockery is priceless.
Imagine Jeb doing something that infuriatingly juvenile.
Hillary will lose it.
...
is there any way we can establish a metric to judge the efficacy of this ad? Any bets as to hillary losing poll standing or anything?
I just keep waiting for evidence of all these wonders Trump is alleged to be bringing our way.
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (dciA+)
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198 Orrin Hatch, sit by the phone. We have to talk to Chuck Grassley first, but don't go far.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM (TOk1P)
I will personally light a bag of dogshit on Rancid Pubis' doorstep and ring that bell.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 03:34 PM (TOk1P)
I will personally light a bag of dogshit on Rancid Pubis' doorstep and ring that bell.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (p4UlV)
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Salah Abdeslam, welcome to the international dicksucking league. No wonder these guys usually blow themselves up, they all look like the one that is going to be sucking the root. Underachievers, cowards, boy-girls, Islamist scum, all same-same. What a bunch of chicken-shit assholes. I'm glad they didn't kill the little puke, but I wish that they would torture him. Start with the hammers, Jean Claude.
Posted by: goon at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (gy5kE)
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This is what I don't get. Kasich is the Establishment. Amnesty. So why risk electing Cruz who is dead set against it, when having Hilary in there ensures it?
WTF?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I honestly don't think this is all about Amnesty.
Let's pretend Jeff Sessions ran and was cruising to the nomination, there would be nowhere near the screaming from Party elders.
Much of this is the volatile personality of Trump, and it's not an unfounded fear even though I would love to see a President Trump.
WTF?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I honestly don't think this is all about Amnesty.
Let's pretend Jeff Sessions ran and was cruising to the nomination, there would be nowhere near the screaming from Party elders.
Much of this is the volatile personality of Trump, and it's not an unfounded fear even though I would love to see a President Trump.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (b/5nT)
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (QoRpZ)
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Skew you!
Skew you!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (p4UlV)
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109 28 I can recall discussing with my Dad on several occasions how we thought one day the average-Joe voter was going to rise up against all the leftist establishment bullshit. And this was during the fricking Clinton administration.
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (e3bId)
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What are you guys talking about now?
Posted by: SCOAMF, Future Stock Market Trade at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (TxJGV)
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He died about 10 years ago, and now his address is Arlington National Cemetery. In a way, I'm glad he didn't live to see the mess we're in today - he was a true Patriot.
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (e3bId)
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What are you guys talking about now?
Posted by: SCOAMF, Future Stock Market Trade at March 18, 2016 03:23 PM (TxJGV)
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He died about 10 years ago, and now his address is Arlington National Cemetery. In a way, I'm glad he didn't live to see the mess we're in today - he was a true Patriot.
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (e3bId)
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Brooks has no guts, that's the problem.
I sorta liked a column he wrote about his approaching religious faith and humility, but at most it was a mere loosening of his bow-tie, not his ripping it off altogether.
Which is what he and his ilk do with everything. Everything is half-measures, circumspection, and compromise.
Hence Trump.
I sorta liked a column he wrote about his approaching religious faith and humility, but at most it was a mere loosening of his bow-tie, not his ripping it off altogether.
Which is what he and his ilk do with everything. Everything is half-measures, circumspection, and compromise.
Hence Trump.
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (IIdNI)
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After AZ and NY, both Trump strongholds, Cruz is mathematically eliminated.
Right now he has to win 80% of the delegates in the remaining 19 states. Not going to happen.
He's a sore loser, establishment hack with Romney and Graham endorsing him and Neil Bush fundraising.
Can't get enough of those shit sandwiches?
Right now he has to win 80% of the delegates in the remaining 19 states. Not going to happen.
He's a sore loser, establishment hack with Romney and Graham endorsing him and Neil Bush fundraising.
Can't get enough of those shit sandwiches?
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (FKK9k)
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ahem
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:38 PM (dciA+)
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Uh-oh...
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 18, 2016 03:39 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:39 PM (mf5HN)
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"is there any way we can establish a metric to judge the efficacy of this ad?"
sure, focus group it
that ad isn't designed to inform, but to dispose
sure, focus group it
that ad isn't designed to inform, but to dispose
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:39 PM (IIdNI)
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Karl Marx and Ted Cruz may believe that power can be wielded directly by the masses
Ted Cruz believes (I presume) in unalienable rights. Marx didn't. Marx thought the mob had the right to wield power over their fellow man. If that's me, I don't care if it's the masses or an elitist oligarchy. I don't want it.
Brooks is sneakily implying that making decisions for myself, being free is really "wielding power" and that it ought not be allowed. What a steaming 24k polished turd the man is.
Ted Cruz believes (I presume) in unalienable rights. Marx didn't. Marx thought the mob had the right to wield power over their fellow man. If that's me, I don't care if it's the masses or an elitist oligarchy. I don't want it.
Brooks is sneakily implying that making decisions for myself, being free is really "wielding power" and that it ought not be allowed. What a steaming 24k polished turd the man is.
Posted by: immigrinch at March 18, 2016 03:39 PM (3EerS)
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The only benefit of Trump becoming President is that it would unite congress in a battle to keep him from over-reaching -- rather than one side cheering him on while the other has ineffectual fainting fits, as with Obama. So if it comes down to voting for Drumpf or voting for Hellery, I for one will hold my nose and vote for Drumpf.
Unite behind Cruz, or Lose.
Unite behind Cruz, or Lose.
Posted by: starboardhelm at March 18, 2016 03:39 PM (hOtJL)
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Maybe it's time to bring some real accountability to the Capital Class. The policy of Too Prig to Fail is causing them, like Lehman Brothers, to make disastrous bets with other people's money.
Posted by: Ace at 03:01 PM
After reading this, at the next rally Trump promises guillotines. He hits 90% approval overnight.
Posted by: Ace at 03:01 PM
After reading this, at the next rally Trump promises guillotines. He hits 90% approval overnight.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 18, 2016 03:39 PM (t06LC)
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Nah, she has already taken that ad, edited it, and turned it right around on The Donald. If you are a Hillary fan, you will love it.
How many Hillary fans are left after a 10 second clip of her cronish chuckling?
It's like being a basilisk fan - self correcting problem.
How many Hillary fans are left after a 10 second clip of her cronish chuckling?
It's like being a basilisk fan - self correcting problem.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:39 PM (uURQL)
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137---I could be wrong about Trumps appeal. I remember all the naysayers when Reagan ran the first time. I'm seeing the same exact arguments now that I saw then.
Sure I prefer Cruz. But the people are speaking.
Posted by: mega machines at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (fbovC)
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You are dead wrong about Trump's appeal.
Trump is nothing like Reagan. Nothing. He is nasty, crude, superficial in thought, and pathetically ill-informed. Stop that.
The "people" that are speaking comprise less than 10% of the general electorate.
BTW, I wish ---how I wish!-- that it were not so.
(And yes, I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee.)
Sure I prefer Cruz. But the people are speaking.
Posted by: mega machines at March 18, 2016 03:26 PM (fbovC)
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You are dead wrong about Trump's appeal.
Trump is nothing like Reagan. Nothing. He is nasty, crude, superficial in thought, and pathetically ill-informed. Stop that.
The "people" that are speaking comprise less than 10% of the general electorate.
BTW, I wish ---how I wish!-- that it were not so.
(And yes, I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (T/5A0)
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Donnie Brook to the barrel.
Posted by: buzzion at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (z/Ubi)
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Ted Cruz would destroy Hilary in a debate with facts, figures, logic and his eidetic memory of her entire record.
Trump would just bring up Bill Clinton's rape, er, rap sheet.
Ted Cruz would destroy Hilary in a debate with facts, figures, logic and his eidetic memory of her entire record.
Trump would just bring up Bill Clinton's rape, er, rap sheet.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (p4UlV)
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>>>How many Hillary fans are left after a 10 second clip of her cronish chuckling?
at last tally, 51% of registered voters.
at last tally, 51% of registered voters.
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (dciA+)
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I know that Cruz polls well with Hillary now, but I don't think Hillary could handle Trump. A populist vs. and left-wing elitist is hard to call. It looks bad now, but it will tighten. If it doesn't well, I was in high school during the Carter years. So, I've seen times more bleak than now. There was a time when a Canadian (Gordon Sinclair) had to give us a pep talk. Can it get worse, hell yes. I can not believe, however, that this country will allow itself to be flushed down the leftist sewer like so many others.
Trump is not my first pick, but my hand will never pull the lever for Hillary. She has the appeal of chlamydia, the friendly venereal disease. Her turnout has been low and promises to stay that way. So the polls are bad, but they are always bad at the start. Given the the MSM is paying for them, I can see them being bad for a while.
If they don't. well I gave up on the GOP after they did not have the courage to stop the Iran deal.
Trump is not my first pick, but my hand will never pull the lever for Hillary. She has the appeal of chlamydia, the friendly venereal disease. Her turnout has been low and promises to stay that way. So the polls are bad, but they are always bad at the start. Given the the MSM is paying for them, I can see them being bad for a while.
If they don't. well I gave up on the GOP after they did not have the courage to stop the Iran deal.
Posted by: Chicago at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (mPQ7K)
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Middle Tennessee still up by 3, under 2 minutes.
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (mf5HN)
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is there any way we can establish a metric to judge the efficacy of this ad? Any bets as to hillary losing poll standing or anything?
I just keep waiting for evidence of all these wonders Trump is alleged to be bringing our way.
Posted by: ace
One ad is not going to do anything, I just thought it was refreshing to see someone openly mock her, even if it's a bit juvenile.
It was not a David Brooks approved ad which means I loved it.
I just keep waiting for evidence of all these wonders Trump is alleged to be bringing our way.
Posted by: ace
One ad is not going to do anything, I just thought it was refreshing to see someone openly mock her, even if it's a bit juvenile.
It was not a David Brooks approved ad which means I loved it.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (b/5nT)
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It's helpful to remember that Ronald Reagan was losing to Jimmy Carter by about 12 points like two or three days before the election.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (p4UlV)
I keep hearing things like this, but I haven't found a source that says anything other than that Reagan was ahead for almost all of the three months before the election, including the final weeks.
I'm not sure anyone cares at this point.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:29 PM (p4UlV)
I keep hearing things like this, but I haven't found a source that says anything other than that Reagan was ahead for almost all of the three months before the election, including the final weeks.
I'm not sure anyone cares at this point.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (IIdNI)
Posted by: Donnie Brook at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (QoRpZ)
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Ace, based on poll numbers, if you believe them, nobody running in the GOP primary has a remote chance of coming in better than 15-20 points below either democrat.
Do you really believe that?
Do you really believe that?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (Qvgg/)
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From Romney's Facebook:
[Blah Blah Blah]
... so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican.
Posted by: leumas at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (yzshC)
Give him credit for honesty. Take away said credit for being part of the problem, and nowhere near the solution.
Oh, and Romney? Nobody is using facebook anymore. You out of touch has-been, you.
[Blah Blah Blah]
... so that we can have an open convention and nominate a Republican.
Posted by: leumas at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (yzshC)
Give him credit for honesty. Take away said credit for being part of the problem, and nowhere near the solution.
Oh, and Romney? Nobody is using facebook anymore. You out of touch has-been, you.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (TOk1P)
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>>Imagine Jeb doing something that infuriatingly juvenile.
Hillary will lose it.
Yeah, I figure if nothing else, Trump's constant jabs at her like this will cause her to lose it. I like to imagine her swearing and throwing things at underlings (or Bill) about it.
I don't endorse Trump's vulgarity, and yet...I am enjoying it when he directs it at Hillary. She is *never* treated like this, even though she has a track record of being openly mean to her opponents, and treating the little people like Leona Helmsley. She is not a fragile woman scandalized by such rough treatment, though she likes to play one on tv.
I suppose that makes me a bad person, but I can live with that.
Hillary will lose it.
Yeah, I figure if nothing else, Trump's constant jabs at her like this will cause her to lose it. I like to imagine her swearing and throwing things at underlings (or Bill) about it.
I don't endorse Trump's vulgarity, and yet...I am enjoying it when he directs it at Hillary. She is *never* treated like this, even though she has a track record of being openly mean to her opponents, and treating the little people like Leona Helmsley. She is not a fragile woman scandalized by such rough treatment, though she likes to play one on tv.
I suppose that makes me a bad person, but I can live with that.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (NOIQH)
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220 I'd be more than willing to see Cruz vs Hildabeast. Independents can choose a should be federal criminal or Ted. D's wouldn't care if Hildabeast slaughtered puppy's on Times Square they will still vote for her.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (fizMZ)
Yeah, they would be upset about that. They would still vote for her, but they would be upset. But a human baby? No problem. They'd give her more money.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (fizMZ)
Yeah, they would be upset about that. They would still vote for her, but they would be upset. But a human baby? No problem. They'd give her more money.
Posted by: Moki at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (7q2ch)
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Who got banned? I hoping for a special one.
Posted by: Golfman at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (48QDY)
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is there any way we can establish a metric to judge the efficacy of this ad? Any bets as to hillary losing poll standing or anything?
I dunno, worked for me, I laughed. Who cares, really? Either it worked or it didn't. Either he wins or he doesn't. Its not like we have any say or power over any of this. Nobody is listening to me or anyone else here, not in power. Trump doesn't have a dedicated AOSHQ liason feeding him info from the Q, as wise as that would be.
I dunno, worked for me, I laughed. Who cares, really? Either it worked or it didn't. Either he wins or he doesn't. Its not like we have any say or power over any of this. Nobody is listening to me or anyone else here, not in power. Trump doesn't have a dedicated AOSHQ liason feeding him info from the Q, as wise as that would be.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:41 PM (39g3+)
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>>>Trump would just bring up Bill Clinton's rape, er, rap sheet.
he can't, actually. He's a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's and has praised him for always being surrounded by beautiful women some of them "quite young."
https://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even-
donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
he can't, actually. He's a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's and has praised him for always being surrounded by beautiful women some of them "quite young."
https://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even-
donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (dciA+)
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Oh, great, they tried to set the time, but instead they got everything written going into italics. Great! Thanks Barack. Geniuses flock together. I forgot how to spell flock for a minute, sorry ...
Posted by: goon at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (gy5kE)
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If the Establishment is trying to bargain with Cruz, does that not indicate that the Establishment thinks they have no chance to defeat him, or Trump?
If the Establishment is trying to bargain with Cruz, does that not indicate that the Establishment thinks they have no chance to defeat him, or Trump?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (p4UlV)
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Actually... there are now a LOT of professions in the US where you do not pay for failure.
EPA. DOJ. IRS. DHS.... any Fed Gov Job.
Congressman....
Reporter.
Economist.
College Professor.
Teacher in general....
Police (have to REALLY blow it...)
General or Admiral, unless you cross the PC line...
Hmmm..... just figured out that just about every one of those was a Government employee... what a coincidence...
EPA. DOJ. IRS. DHS.... any Fed Gov Job.
Congressman....
Reporter.
Economist.
College Professor.
Teacher in general....
Police (have to REALLY blow it...)
General or Admiral, unless you cross the PC line...
Hmmm..... just figured out that just about every one of those was a Government employee... what a coincidence...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (RK8AH)
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Brooks is sneakily implying that making decisions for myself, being free is really "wielding power" and that it ought not be allowed. What a steaming 24k polished turd the man is.
Yep. To want to be left alone makes you a radical, and yet and yet, most actual thinkers would disagree.
to whit: "To be happy at home is the ultimate result of all ambition, the end to which every enterprise and labor tends, and of which every desire prompts the prosecution."
Yep. To want to be left alone makes you a radical, and yet and yet, most actual thinkers would disagree.
to whit: "To be happy at home is the ultimate result of all ambition, the end to which every enterprise and labor tends, and of which every desire prompts the prosecution."
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (rwI+c)
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How many Hillary fans are left after a 10 second clip of her cronish chuckling?
at last tally, 51% of registered voters.
Posted by: ace
And that barking puts her at 60%
How many Hillary fans are left after a 10 second clip of her cronish chuckling?
at last tally, 51% of registered voters.
Posted by: ace
And that barking puts her at 60%
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (FkBIv)
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I guess a Cruz/Romney ticket would be conciliatory, not consolatory. Either way, it would make everyone happy.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (eZMHS)
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Keep tooting those Trumvuvuzelas. I love it.
Posted by: The Donald at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (c7vUv)
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Oh, ace.
*has moment of solemn silence*
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits
It was Donnie Brook.
*clambers out of barrel*
*returns fourth best flamethrower, in marginally useful condition*
*has moment of solemn silence*
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits
It was Donnie Brook.
*clambers out of barrel*
*returns fourth best flamethrower, in marginally useful condition*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (1xUj/)
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258 donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (dciA+)
Thou hast slain my buzz . . .
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (dciA+)
Thou hast slain my buzz . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (p4UlV)
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The only benefit of Trump becoming President is that it would unite congress in a battle to keep him from over-reaching
The GOP is worried about what down ballot Republicans will run on if Trump is the nominee.Thats the answer
The only benefit of Trump becoming President is that it would unite congress in a battle to keep him from over-reaching
The GOP is worried about what down ballot Republicans will run on if Trump is the nominee.Thats the answer
Posted by: flawless male logic at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (lKyWE)
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202 If I were advising Cruz, I'd tell him to reject the Romney endorsement
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (Qvgg/)
The fact someone would need to advise him to do that is good evidence Cruz is not quite all he is said to be.
202 If I were advising Cruz, I'd tell him to reject the Romney endorsement
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (Qvgg/)
The fact someone would need to advise him to do that is good evidence Cruz is not quite all he is said to be.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:43 PM (MQEz6)
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If Trump does not going to get 1237, he doesn't win.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:43 PM (fizMZ)
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251 Uranus is closer!
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (e3bId)
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D's wouldn't care if Hildabeast slaughtered puppy's on Times Square they will still vote for her.
It was so awful, that poor puppy. I just can't stand the fact that the Republicans are so much worse, I have no choice but to vote Hillary to stop them from banning tampons and putting blacks back into slavery! If only Bernie had won!
It was so awful, that poor puppy. I just can't stand the fact that the Republicans are so much worse, I have no choice but to vote Hillary to stop them from banning tampons and putting blacks back into slavery! If only Bernie had won!
Posted by: Democrat Voter at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (39g3+)
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There simply aren't enough people who believe in conservative principles and traditional values to make a difference anymore.
Conservative principles have a difficult time being spelled out correctly. Every time it's tried, some MFM MF'er jumps up and down and starts screaming "RACIST" "HOMOPHOBE" "XENENOPHOBE" or some other equally insane bullshit.
There's always some media imbecile jumping between you and the truth wanting to tell you what you should think.
#WASTF
There simply aren't enough people who believe in conservative principles and traditional values to make a difference anymore.
Conservative principles have a difficult time being spelled out correctly. Every time it's tried, some MFM MF'er jumps up and down and starts screaming "RACIST" "HOMOPHOBE" "XENENOPHOBE" or some other equally insane bullshit.
There's always some media imbecile jumping between you and the truth wanting to tell you what you should think.
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (LUgeY)
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I've said from the get-go that whoever wins the nomination will beat Hillary, including Trump, and I see no reason to change now. But the idea that this country overwhelming supports Trump is fantasy. Right now, the majority of the republican voters are not supporting him. Now they may, and maybe he will pull some democrat voters, and maybe Hillary will be the weak candidate I think she is.
But let's not over evaluate his standing with the voting republic just yet.
But let's not over evaluate his standing with the voting republic just yet.
Posted by: SH at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (gmeXX)
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The invaluable John Schindler has a new piece in the Observer, strongly implying a new investigation of Hillary has been opened, this time by NSA.
Fox and ABC reported the other day that Hillary had asked for a secure Blackberry when she took office and was turned down. She was told to ONLY use the secure government systems as per SCIF rules, and it was documented. She apparently ignored that instruction and we see the results.
One piece of secure intelligence that Hillary gave to our enemies was apparently lifted verbatim from a highest level security NSA document, and was sent to her by the infamous scumbag Sid Blumenthal (barred by the Obama administration from darkening any government doors). Where he got it is the subject of the NSA investigation. Also, the NSA wants to know who else saw it, and that means they urgently need to follow the tracks of Hillary's espionage.
Worse and worse.
http://bit.ly/1S8LMr0
Fox and ABC reported the other day that Hillary had asked for a secure Blackberry when she took office and was turned down. She was told to ONLY use the secure government systems as per SCIF rules, and it was documented. She apparently ignored that instruction and we see the results.
One piece of secure intelligence that Hillary gave to our enemies was apparently lifted verbatim from a highest level security NSA document, and was sent to her by the infamous scumbag Sid Blumenthal (barred by the Obama administration from darkening any government doors). Where he got it is the subject of the NSA investigation. Also, the NSA wants to know who else saw it, and that means they urgently need to follow the tracks of Hillary's espionage.
Worse and worse.
http://bit.ly/1S8LMr0
Posted by: MTF at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (TxJGV)
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btw, "Too Prig to Fail" is crystalline, and well worth what I pay to read this blog.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (rwI+c)
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Posted by: Margarita DeVille
Don't put words in my mouth. I did not compare Trump to Reagan. Only that I heard the same doomsayers when Reagan was running for the nomination.
Reagan had a limited amnesty when he was President, by the way. One very important distinction which separates the two.
Don't put words in my mouth. I did not compare Trump to Reagan. Only that I heard the same doomsayers when Reagan was running for the nomination.
Reagan had a limited amnesty when he was President, by the way. One very important distinction which separates the two.
Posted by: mega machines at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (fbovC)
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It was Donnie Brook.
*clambers out of barrel*
*returns fourth best flamethrower, in marginally useful condition*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (1xUj/)
Thank you. You may have this chocolate chip cookie.
*clambers out of barrel*
*returns fourth best flamethrower, in marginally useful condition*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (1xUj/)
Thank you. You may have this chocolate chip cookie.
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (mf5HN)
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Did you know that Pluto is only five light hours from earth?
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
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You are dead wrong about Trump's appeal.
Trump is nothing like Reagan. Nothing. He is nasty, crude, superficial in thought, and pathetically ill-informed. Stop that.
The "people" that are speaking comprise less than 10% of the general electorate.
BTW, I wish ---how I wish!-- that it were not so.
(And yes, I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (T/5A0)
I agree with you, but I also think we live in a nastier, cruder, more superficial in thought, and pathetically ill-informed times. It seems the electorate matches.
Trump is nothing like Reagan. Nothing. He is nasty, crude, superficial in thought, and pathetically ill-informed. Stop that.
The "people" that are speaking comprise less than 10% of the general electorate.
BTW, I wish ---how I wish!-- that it were not so.
(And yes, I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 18, 2016 03:40 PM (T/5A0)
I agree with you, but I also think we live in a nastier, cruder, more superficial in thought, and pathetically ill-informed times. It seems the electorate matches.
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (t06LC)
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We all know that Cruz would probably beat Bernie Sanders in an election, so why is it so crazy for some people to see a plausible path for Trump?
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (b/5nT)
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Because people are invested in Cruz. Somehow Cruz will flip Florida, FLORIDA. Because he just can.
Meanwhile Trump can't, even though he came within 4% of half the vote in a four man race.
We all know that Cruz would probably beat Bernie Sanders in an election, so why is it so crazy for some people to see a plausible path for Trump?
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:32 PM (b/5nT)
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Because people are invested in Cruz. Somehow Cruz will flip Florida, FLORIDA. Because he just can.
Meanwhile Trump can't, even though he came within 4% of half the vote in a four man race.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (LXJ1e)
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And there goes a quarter of my bracket.
Posted by: buzzion at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (z/Ubi)
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269 The fact someone would need to advise him to do that is good evidence Cruz is not quite all he is said to be.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:43 PM (MQEz6)
Pfft.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:43 PM (MQEz6)
Pfft.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (p4UlV)
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White privilege is not having to feel Barack Obama let your people down.
Posted by: Capt. Sum Ting Wong at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (e8kgV)
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he can't, actually. He's a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's and has praised him for always being surrounded by beautiful women some of them "quite young."
Like that would stop him. Come on, ace when has hypocrisy, contradiction, or even logic stopped Trump from spouting off? And he makes it work, somehow.
Like that would stop him. Come on, ace when has hypocrisy, contradiction, or even logic stopped Trump from spouting off? And he makes it work, somehow.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (39g3+)
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258 >>>Trump would just bring up Bill Clinton's rape, er, rap sheet.
he can't, actually. He's a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's and has praised him for always being surrounded by beautiful women some of them "quite young."
https://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even-
donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (dciA+)
Trump already shoved Bubba up Hillary's ass.
258 >>>Trump would just bring up Bill Clinton's rape, er, rap sheet.
he can't, actually. He's a friend of Jeffrey Epstein's and has praised him for always being surrounded by beautiful women some of them "quite young."
https://news.vice.com/article/the-salacious-ammo-even-
donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (dciA+)
Trump already shoved Bubba up Hillary's ass.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (MQEz6)
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from the Vice article:
"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (dciA+)
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Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Gotta be further than that, the SUN is 8 light minutes away.
Gotta be further than that, the SUN is 8 light minutes away.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (39g3+)
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If I were advising Cruz, I'd tell him to reject the Romney endorsement
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (Qvgg/)
The fact someone would need to advise him to do that is good evidence Cruz is not quite all he is said to be.
Posted by: eman
Just like Cruz had no problem sucking up to Trump when he thought it was going to clear the field for him, he'll have no problem sucking up now to Romney and running on his endorsement.
It doesn't really bother me because that's politics but the idea that Cruz is a different creature just doesn't really hold water.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 18, 2016 03:35 PM (Qvgg/)
The fact someone would need to advise him to do that is good evidence Cruz is not quite all he is said to be.
Posted by: eman
Just like Cruz had no problem sucking up to Trump when he thought it was going to clear the field for him, he'll have no problem sucking up now to Romney and running on his endorsement.
It doesn't really bother me because that's politics but the idea that Cruz is a different creature just doesn't really hold water.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (b/5nT)
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But perhaps you should take some time to read up on the various political classes which became so inbred, insular, and disconnected from reality they provoked their own destruction.
This is a good place to link Karl Denninger's post, "What the Establishment Fears":
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231248
See also Bagbalm's comment about how the issues that ordinary people are told are important have virtually no impact on the very rich.
This is a good place to link Karl Denninger's post, "What the Establishment Fears":
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231248
See also Bagbalm's comment about how the issues that ordinary people are told are important have virtually no impact on the very rich.
Posted by: rickl at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (zoehZ)
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It's a shame I don't have potato chips in the house.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (fizMZ)
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219 " it's the establishment still trying to bargain."
Zackly.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (LA7Cm)
Really Honey.... I won't hit you again.... I mean it this time... I've changed...
Zackly.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 18, 2016 03:37 PM (LA7Cm)
Really Honey.... I won't hit you again.... I mean it this time... I've changed...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (RK8AH)
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Heres the deal.
This all started with Bush's (coughKARLROVEcough) push for amnesty in his second term.
Then the GOPe sneered down its nose at the Tea Party. Bunch of angry white dudes.
Then they let the fustercluck of all clusterfucks, the Affrodable Care Act out of committee where it should have died. They didnt even quibble when the Dems went extra Constitutional and "deemed" it as passed without reconciliation. SAY WHAT?!?!?!
They rolled over on Fast and Furious.
They rolled over on The IRS. They probably even coordinated on which advocacy groups to target. RIGHT JOHN MCCAIN???
They rolled over on the debt ceiling fight.
They rolled over on Benghazi.
Theyre rolling over on Hilarys server. And pay for play at the Clinton foundation.
We gave you the house. We gave you the Senate.
You did not get the goddamned messsage when Eric Fricking Cantor got his ass handed to him and was primaried by a nobody.
The problem with the GOPe is they've insulated themselves and set themselves apart from their constituents.
And now you got Trump.
Well..... its your own damned fault. You. Nobody else. The ONLY difference betwen YOU and Democrat is you think you can do BIG GOVERNMENT better than the Democrats.
You made this. You deserve it. YOU.
Heres the deal.
This all started with Bush's (coughKARLROVEcough) push for amnesty in his second term.
Then the GOPe sneered down its nose at the Tea Party. Bunch of angry white dudes.
Then they let the fustercluck of all clusterfucks, the Affrodable Care Act out of committee where it should have died. They didnt even quibble when the Dems went extra Constitutional and "deemed" it as passed without reconciliation. SAY WHAT?!?!?!
They rolled over on Fast and Furious.
They rolled over on The IRS. They probably even coordinated on which advocacy groups to target. RIGHT JOHN MCCAIN???
They rolled over on the debt ceiling fight.
They rolled over on Benghazi.
Theyre rolling over on Hilarys server. And pay for play at the Clinton foundation.
We gave you the house. We gave you the Senate.
You did not get the goddamned messsage when Eric Fricking Cantor got his ass handed to him and was primaried by a nobody.
The problem with the GOPe is they've insulated themselves and set themselves apart from their constituents.
And now you got Trump.
Well..... its your own damned fault. You. Nobody else. The ONLY difference betwen YOU and Democrat is you think you can do BIG GOVERNMENT better than the Democrats.
You made this. You deserve it. YOU.
Posted by: fixerupper at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (8XRCm)
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None of you homos better call me "sans culottes". It's French and therefore, lame.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Lighten up Chien Derange'
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:36 PM (1xUj/)
*snort*
Okay, that was funny.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Lighten up Chien Derange'
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:36 PM (1xUj/)
*snort*
Okay, that was funny.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (/wVDI)
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281 Because people are invested in Cruz. Somehow Cruz will flip Florida, FLORIDA. Because he just can.
Meanwhile Trump can't, even though he came within 4% of half the vote in a four man race.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (LXJ1e)
You are so dead wrong it's incredible. Head to head, Cruz would beat Trump handily. Hence all this talk the past few weeks of the Kasich/Mario spoiler effect.
But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Meanwhile Trump can't, even though he came within 4% of half the vote in a four man race.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (LXJ1e)
You are so dead wrong it's incredible. Head to head, Cruz would beat Trump handily. Hence all this talk the past few weeks of the Kasich/Mario spoiler effect.
But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (p4UlV)
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"indeed! His ceiling has surged all the way to 37.1%"
Arizona will be a good test on whether Cruz can close ground with Trump and the value of a Romney endorsement, and what effect Kasich has from hanging in. My over under is Trump at 45%. We'll know in just a few days.
You want Cruz.
You don't want Trump.
You'll get Romney (Or Kasich).
Ted has become a GOPe catspaw. Methinks Romney wants to deny Trump his 1237 any way he can and then "make himself available" in Cleveland. YMMV.
I also think Romney's self-deportation quip had an expiration date.
The Jimmy Fallon jokes last night on Cruz were brutal (and on the mark).
Arizona will be a good test on whether Cruz can close ground with Trump and the value of a Romney endorsement, and what effect Kasich has from hanging in. My over under is Trump at 45%. We'll know in just a few days.
You want Cruz.
You don't want Trump.
You'll get Romney (Or Kasich).
Ted has become a GOPe catspaw. Methinks Romney wants to deny Trump his 1237 any way he can and then "make himself available" in Cleveland. YMMV.
I also think Romney's self-deportation quip had an expiration date.
The Jimmy Fallon jokes last night on Cruz were brutal (and on the mark).
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (r1fLd)
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"The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else."
Oh, I see. It was the American System that gave us NAFTA, open borders and endless war. Gee, thanks America!
Oh, I see. It was the American System that gave us NAFTA, open borders and endless war. Gee, thanks America!
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (kfoLf)
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279 Did you know that Pluto is only five light hours from earth?
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
Nope.
Jupiter is much closer to Earth than Pluto and light takes 30 minutes to get from J to E.
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
Nope.
Jupiter is much closer to Earth than Pluto and light takes 30 minutes to get from J to E.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (MQEz6)
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Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
...
So, inside the orbit of the asteroid belt now, is it?
...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
...
So, inside the orbit of the asteroid belt now, is it?
...
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (bLnSU)
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"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Posted by: ace
I really don't think any other candidate was going to run on that anyway, but it did take away a nice juicy target from the one guy that would have had the balls to go after it.
Posted by: ace
I really don't think any other candidate was going to run on that anyway, but it did take away a nice juicy target from the one guy that would have had the balls to go after it.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (b/5nT)
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It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Not exactly an endorsement, really. Just a nudge at his underage girls. One of those things you say while looking at someone across the room as a warning, kinda.
It should be interesting to see if the Dems can counter Trump with their massive PR machine.
Not exactly an endorsement, really. Just a nudge at his underage girls. One of those things you say while looking at someone across the room as a warning, kinda.
It should be interesting to see if the Dems can counter Trump with their massive PR machine.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (39g3+)
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What a strange election. Ted Cruz is insufficiently conservative and part of the establishment. Ted Cruz. And Donald Trump, friend and supporter of Hillary Clinton, is the anti-establishment savior.
Strange times.
Strange times.
Posted by: SH at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (gmeXX)
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Trump already shoved Bubba up Hillary's ass.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (MQEz6)
Trump has destroyed #WarOnWomen before he even finished the primary.
Incompetent Romney never did recover from Binders of Women.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (MQEz6)
Trump has destroyed #WarOnWomen before he even finished the primary.
Incompetent Romney never did recover from Binders of Women.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (uURQL)
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287 from the Vice article:
"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (dciA+)
It would be interesting to see exactly how the Clintons defend themselves, since their knowledge of Mr. Epstein's resume would be rather a large tell.
But, point taken.
"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (dciA+)
It would be interesting to see exactly how the Clintons defend themselves, since their knowledge of Mr. Epstein's resume would be rather a large tell.
But, point taken.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (p4UlV)
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Posted by: fixerupper at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (8XRCm)
Well stated. Please consider finding a way to send it to David Brooks.
Well stated. Please consider finding a way to send it to David Brooks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 18, 2016 03:49 PM (w4NZ8)
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Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (dciA+)
But by the assertion of many here...
Nothing Trump said in the past, has any bearing on what he WILL say....
ergo.... who knows?
But by the assertion of many here...
Nothing Trump said in the past, has any bearing on what he WILL say....
ergo.... who knows?
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 18, 2016 03:49 PM (RK8AH)
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298 Well where the hell is Uranus?
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:49 PM (e3bId)
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Speaking of elites...
Doris Goodwin Kearns was on Imus this week
spewing all her erudite presidential knowledge
Imus asked her if she thought Hillary! 'had a tenuous relationship with the truth..'
There was a discernable silence as she seemed incredulous this question was posed
She responded with 'What ? You mean the emails ?"
These people live in their own reality . .
Doris Goodwin Kearns was on Imus this week
spewing all her erudite presidential knowledge
Imus asked her if she thought Hillary! 'had a tenuous relationship with the truth..'
There was a discernable silence as she seemed incredulous this question was posed
She responded with 'What ? You mean the emails ?"
These people live in their own reality . .
Posted by: McCool at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (PhpHA)
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Shouldn't Trump's "ceiling" be the highest he's ever reached, not an aggregate of his winning percentages? I mean, not that it really tells you anything either way, I'm just saying...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (ODxAs)
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ace, it sounds like you really want politicians to be good people in addition to being good politicians
it's admirable
personally, I turned cynical a long time ago
it's admirable
personally, I turned cynical a long time ago
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (IIdNI)
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I guess a Cruz/Romney ticket would be conciliatory, not consolatory. Either way, it would make everyone happy.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (eZMHS)
Nobody still thinks Cruz could be nominated, do they?
And nobody is foolish enough to think if Gope has a choice when it comes to convention time, they'll let Cruz anywhere near the ticket... do they??
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (eZMHS)
Nobody still thinks Cruz could be nominated, do they?
And nobody is foolish enough to think if Gope has a choice when it comes to convention time, they'll let Cruz anywhere near the ticket... do they??
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (kdS6q)
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Posted by: fixerupper at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (8XRCm)
*shoves rest of lemon bars through USB port*
Holy. Fucking. Shit. BOOOOOM go all the brackets.
*shoves rest of lemon bars through USB port*
Holy. Fucking. Shit. BOOOOOM go all the brackets.
Posted by: alexthechick - Secretary of Tits at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: runner at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (c6/9Q)
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The talk of Trump getting under Hillary's skin is wishful thinking. Trump is the most thin skinned person I've ever seen. The Hillary camp knows that and that is what they will focus on. They will try to trap Trump into saying the most outrageous things ever and he will likely fall for it.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (PMkYS)
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"I know that Cruz polls well with Hillary now"
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Cruz couldn't beat a New Yorker in the entire south. 25% of Cruz's delegates are from one state - Texas - his home state and he only got 43%. George Bush got 88%.
Cruz can't get Republicans to vote for him and he's going to beat Hillary? LOL
The logic around here is severely lacking.
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Cruz couldn't beat a New Yorker in the entire south. 25% of Cruz's delegates are from one state - Texas - his home state and he only got 43%. George Bush got 88%.
Cruz can't get Republicans to vote for him and he's going to beat Hillary? LOL
The logic around here is severely lacking.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (FKK9k)
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>>>Not exactly an endorsement, really. Just a nudge at his underage girls. One of those things you say while looking at someone across the room as a warning, kinda.
uh-huh
you must be right -- Trump has always struck me as the moralistic sort who would take a public shot at someone for palling around with girls "on the younger side."
In no way do I get the sense he'd think this was pretty awesome.
uh-huh
you must be right -- Trump has always struck me as the moralistic sort who would take a public shot at someone for palling around with girls "on the younger side."
In no way do I get the sense he'd think this was pretty awesome.
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (dciA+)
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Did you know that Pluto is only five light hours from earth?
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
Nope.
Jupiter is much closer to Earth than Pluto and light takes 30 minutes to get from J to E.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (MQEz6)
Han Solo can do it in 5.
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
Nope.
Jupiter is much closer to Earth than Pluto and light takes 30 minutes to get from J to E.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (MQEz6)
Han Solo can do it in 5.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (uURQL)
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You are so dead wrong it's incredible. Head to head, Cruz would beat Trump handily. Hence all this talk the past few weeks of the Kasich/Mario spoiler effect.
But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Maybe, but right now most of Cruz's support is simply in the form of "NotTrump", so it's a lot of Establishment types that hated him before.
Cruz should have formed an alliance earlier but I think his sharp elbows simply alienated too many of the other contenders.
But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Maybe, but right now most of Cruz's support is simply in the form of "NotTrump", so it's a lot of Establishment types that hated him before.
Cruz should have formed an alliance earlier but I think his sharp elbows simply alienated too many of the other contenders.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (b/5nT)
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What has Cruz said about these endorsements?
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (a0IVu)
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Again, David Brooks, this is Mr. Creased Pants fault:
Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else.
Did his creased pants clue you up this might happen, because we knew and predicted it.
Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else.
Did his creased pants clue you up this might happen, because we knew and predicted it.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (U+nHb)
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Like that would stop him. Come on, ace when has hypocrisy, contradiction, or even logic stopped Trump from spouting off? And he makes it work, somehow.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (39g3+)
$2 billion in free press coverage will do that for you.
The only question is, is that an illicit in-kind donation to Trump, or is it an illicit in-kind donation to the DNC?
I don't think I can have any real influence on the outcome now, so I probably should just not worry about that and worry about liquidity and mobility.
Of which I have practically none.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:45 PM (39g3+)
$2 billion in free press coverage will do that for you.
The only question is, is that an illicit in-kind donation to Trump, or is it an illicit in-kind donation to the DNC?
I don't think I can have any real influence on the outcome now, so I probably should just not worry about that and worry about liquidity and mobility.
Of which I have practically none.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (bLnSU)
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Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Gotta be further than that, the SUN is 8 light minutes away.
Hmmm. I heard a BBC thing yesterday about how the latest critter that flew by Pluto is still sending data.
Guy said it's five light minutes away and they have to transmit at something like 1200 baud.
Otoh, the interthing says that Pluto varies between 30 and 50 times as far away from the Sun as Earth is, so you have a point.
Moral: never trust foreigners.
Gotta be further than that, the SUN is 8 light minutes away.
Hmmm. I heard a BBC thing yesterday about how the latest critter that flew by Pluto is still sending data.
Guy said it's five light minutes away and they have to transmit at something like 1200 baud.
Otoh, the interthing says that Pluto varies between 30 and 50 times as far away from the Sun as Earth is, so you have a point.
Moral: never trust foreigners.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (1xUj/)
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297 Oh, I see. It was the American System that gave us NAFTA, open borders and endless war. Gee, thanks America!
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 03:47
One and a half out of three. NAFTA and trade in general is not what kills the country. It's the massive enterprise-killing regulatory state that's the culprit. As for "endless wars," it's wars that are not fought to win and become endless that's the problem there. Open borders? 100% agree on that, and THAT is the worst.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 03:47
One and a half out of three. NAFTA and trade in general is not what kills the country. It's the massive enterprise-killing regulatory state that's the culprit. As for "endless wars," it's wars that are not fought to win and become endless that's the problem there. Open borders? 100% agree on that, and THAT is the worst.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: Maxyp at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (DjLh9)
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (e3bId)
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The talk of Trump getting under Hillary's skin is wishful thinking. Trump is the most thin skinned person I've ever seen. The Hillary camp knows that and that is what they will focus on. They will try to trap Trump into saying the most outrageous things ever and he will likely fall for it.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (PMkYS)
So in the last exchange of ads between Trump and Hillary, which do you think was more devastating?
Putin laughing .... or Hillary laughing?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (PMkYS)
So in the last exchange of ads between Trump and Hillary, which do you think was more devastating?
Putin laughing .... or Hillary laughing?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (uURQL)
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' porous, self-conscious and responsible elite'
Perhaps that's true. But...that 'elite' got to be 'elite' mostly by way of experience, not by way of an affirmative-action Harvard Law admission.
The current 'elite' is impervious, comically unselfconscious (hi, Brooks!), and about as responsible as a Kardashian.
Perhaps that's true. But...that 'elite' got to be 'elite' mostly by way of experience, not by way of an affirmative-action Harvard Law admission.
The current 'elite' is impervious, comically unselfconscious (hi, Brooks!), and about as responsible as a Kardashian.
Posted by: JEM at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (o+SC1)
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"Reagan had a limited amnesty when he was President, by the way. One very important distinction which separates the two."
Trump's amnesty being limited only to those "good ones".
Trump's amnesty being limited only to those "good ones".
Posted by: spongeworthy at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (mrfTe)
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Trump has a fraud case coming, only one thing of hundreds the media will howl about nightly. Every one of you have seen every previous election where they pick some Republican who is their pick only to break them down when it's again to their favorite leftist.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (fizMZ)
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319 Did you know that Pluto is only five light hours from earth?
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
Nope.
Jupiter is much closer to Earth than Pluto and light takes 30 minutes to get from J to E.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (MQEz6)
Han Solo can do it in 5.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (uURQL)
Not anymore.
Chewy's new squeeze has the stick now.
Posted by: Donnie Brook
Minutes. It's five light minutes from Earth.
Barrel fumes getting to you already.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:44 PM (1xUj/)
Nope.
Jupiter is much closer to Earth than Pluto and light takes 30 minutes to get from J to E.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (MQEz6)
Han Solo can do it in 5.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (uURQL)
Not anymore.
Chewy's new squeeze has the stick now.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (MQEz6)
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320 Cruz should have formed an alliance earlier but I think his sharp elbows simply alienated too many of the other contenders.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (b/5nT)
Sharp elbows? Not sure what that means exactly. It is a political campaign after all.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (b/5nT)
Sharp elbows? Not sure what that means exactly. It is a political campaign after all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (p4UlV)
334
What if Trump wins and picks Ted as his running mate? Does that mean we (conservatives) all come home?
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (t06LC)
335
Baldwin, most we boxing out Cruz. He wasn't personally alienating anyone.
Posted by: Seems legit at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (U+nHb)
336
Just like Cruz had no problem sucking up to Trump when he thought it was going to clear the field for him, he'll have no problem sucking up now to Romney and running on his endorsement.
It doesn't really bother me because that's politics but the idea that Cruz is a different creature just doesn't really hold water.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (b/5nT)
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This here.
It doesn't really bother me because that's politics but the idea that Cruz is a different creature just doesn't really hold water.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (b/5nT)
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This here.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (LXJ1e)
337
mmmmmm....... lemon bars
mmmmmm....... lemon bars
Posted by: fixerupper at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (8XRCm)
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"Oh, I don't see much "rising back" happening any time soon."
I agree. If Trumpleforeskin is the nominee, the GOP is done. If they hand the nomination to Romney, Ryan, or some other establishment hack, the GOP is done.
The only possible road to survival I see for them would be for Cruz to arrive at the convention with somewhere near the same number of delegates as Trump (but neither with a majority), and then taking it on a subsequent ballot. That could probably be justified as Katshit and ScoobyDoobio's delegates switching to Cruz, and Cruz thus arguably having the support of the majority of the party. Will that happen? Unlikely. They're not that smart.
Also, I think the NYT is going to have to be looking for another tame "voice of the opposition" Real Soon Now. Hope Brooks has some actual job skills.
I agree. If Trumpleforeskin is the nominee, the GOP is done. If they hand the nomination to Romney, Ryan, or some other establishment hack, the GOP is done.
The only possible road to survival I see for them would be for Cruz to arrive at the convention with somewhere near the same number of delegates as Trump (but neither with a majority), and then taking it on a subsequent ballot. That could probably be justified as Katshit and ScoobyDoobio's delegates switching to Cruz, and Cruz thus arguably having the support of the majority of the party. Will that happen? Unlikely. They're not that smart.
Also, I think the NYT is going to have to be looking for another tame "voice of the opposition" Real Soon Now. Hope Brooks has some actual job skills.
Posted by: Trumps of Doom at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (CcpUn)
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donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (dciA+)
How many times have you predicted the eminent end of Trump? How many times have you been wrong?
Your predictions about Trump have proven to be somewhat unreliable so I say let's wait and see how Trump will handle Madame Arf Arf.
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:42 PM (dciA+)
How many times have you predicted the eminent end of Trump? How many times have you been wrong?
Your predictions about Trump have proven to be somewhat unreliable so I say let's wait and see how Trump will handle Madame Arf Arf.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (WVsWD)
340
So ace, your objection to Trump is solely based on the belief that he would lose in November?
Posted by: @votermom at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (cbfNE)
341
you must be right -- Trump has always struck me as the moralistic sort who would take a public shot at someone for palling around with girls "on the younger side."
Moralistic? He's not moralistic, what about that has to be a personal judgment? You can be all for smoking crack but use someone else's crack habit against them.
In any case, Trump has already slammed Hillary for her husband's foul womanizing, rapey ways, its not like anything is ever off the table with this guy. Will it work? I dunno. Yesterday I didn't think anyone in the GOPe would ever get it, and Brooks at least caught a tiny glimmer of a clue.
Who knows what's gonna happen? Alls I know is that it won't be good.
Moralistic? He's not moralistic, what about that has to be a personal judgment? You can be all for smoking crack but use someone else's crack habit against them.
In any case, Trump has already slammed Hillary for her husband's foul womanizing, rapey ways, its not like anything is ever off the table with this guy. Will it work? I dunno. Yesterday I didn't think anyone in the GOPe would ever get it, and Brooks at least caught a tiny glimmer of a clue.
Who knows what's gonna happen? Alls I know is that it won't be good.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (39g3+)
342
MSU is OUT.
Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (z6DVm)
343
The same people who assured me that Trump was nothing more than a "summer fling" who would collapse on his own and be out before the Iowa caucuses even started are now assuring me that Trump will assuredly lose the GE.
Anyone is welcome to believe these people now -- despite their being wrong about everything thus far -- but pardon me if I don't.
Anyone is welcome to believe these people now -- despite their being wrong about everything thus far -- but pardon me if I don't.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (lZaEn)
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"Cruz couldn't beat a New Yorker in the entire south. 25% of Cruz's delegates are from one state - Texas - his home state and he only got 43%. George Bush got 88%.
Cruz can't get Republicans to vote for him and he's going to beat Hillary? LOL
The logic around here is severely lacking. "
What he said.
Cruz can't get Republicans to vote for him and he's going to beat Hillary? LOL
The logic around here is severely lacking. "
What he said.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (WnCSK)
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>> Perhaps that's true. But...that 'elite' got to be 'elite' mostly
>> by way of experience, not by way of an affirmative-action
>> Harvard Law admission.
Further, it was the apotheosis of Brooks' 'porous, self-conscious and responsible elite' that mired us in Vietnam for a decade.
>> by way of experience, not by way of an affirmative-action
>> Harvard Law admission.
Further, it was the apotheosis of Brooks' 'porous, self-conscious and responsible elite' that mired us in Vietnam for a decade.
Posted by: JEM at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (o+SC1)
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Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:48 PM (uURQL)
Pull up the anti Trump ad that read back his statements on women. I don't think he's destroyed anything.
Pull up the anti Trump ad that read back his statements on women. I don't think he's destroyed anything.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (PMkYS)
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343 MSU is OUT.
Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (z6DVm)
Let me guess: MSU was in SCOAMF's final bracket.
Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (z6DVm)
Let me guess: MSU was in SCOAMF's final bracket.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (p4UlV)
348
Well where the hell is Uranus?
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:49 PM (e3bId)
Try using both hands.
Posted by: Weasel at March 18, 2016 03:49 PM (e3bId)
Try using both hands.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (TJCSB)
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The most interesting part of David Brooks' piece are the comment section.
What is most interesting is that the comments didn't read his piece that way you probably did.
What is most interesting is that the comments didn't read his piece that way you probably did.
Posted by: Hillary "she's too big to jail" Clinton at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (e8kgV)
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Cruz accepts the endorsements just like Trump accepts endorsements: because they may woo over waverers.
If Cruz is now GOPe because of Romney, than Trump became GOPe when Christie endorsed him.
If Cruz is now GOPe because of Romney, than Trump became GOPe when Christie endorsed him.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (UBBWX)
352
Trump has a fraud case coming, only one thing of hundreds the media will howl about nightly. Every one of you have seen every previous election where they pick some Republican who is their pick only to break them down when it's again to their favorite leftist.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (fizMZ)
Corey ripped off a woman's arm and sodomized her with it on video ... how has that stopped Trump?
There's really only 1 decision to make in this election - support Trump or Cruz. The rest is a waiting game.
Roll the dice, and be ready for everything.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (fizMZ)
Corey ripped off a woman's arm and sodomized her with it on video ... how has that stopped Trump?
There's really only 1 decision to make in this election - support Trump or Cruz. The rest is a waiting game.
Roll the dice, and be ready for everything.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Nihilistic Narcisist at March 18, 2016 03:55 PM (WdXB6)
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344 "Cruz couldn't beat a New Yorker in the entire south. 25% of Cruz's delegates are from one state - Texas - his home state and he only got 43%. George Bush got 88%.
Cruz can't get Republicans to vote for him and he's going to beat Hillary? LOL
The logic around here is severely lacking. "
What he said.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (WnCSK)
And yet, here we are. 13 others have bitten the dust and it's down to 2 1/2 men.
Cruz can't get Republicans to vote for him and he's going to beat Hillary? LOL
The logic around here is severely lacking. "
What he said.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (WnCSK)
And yet, here we are. 13 others have bitten the dust and it's down to 2 1/2 men.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:55 PM (p4UlV)
355
I know exactly how Trump is going to counter Hillary if he is the nominee - he will keep tweeting every 10 minutes calling her low stamina until that is all folks think about when they see her and she will be forced to do a ten minute aerobic video of herself .. and hopefully pass out after a minute.
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:55 PM (a0IVu)
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And as my name says in the basketball pool.
With MSU loss "I am out by Saturday" only this time its actually Friday...
With MSU loss "I am out by Saturday" only this time its actually Friday...
Posted by: H Badger at March 18, 2016 03:55 PM (n/0Nw)
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from the Vice article:
"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York
magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein
began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even
said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are
on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social
life."
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (dciA+)
People who hate Trump are going to spin that as praise.
Anyone who knows anything about business and p.r. knows it is not. He's saying "great guy, likes 'em young." That's about as damning as you can get. The "great guy" stuff is fluff, and not in any way meant to be taken literally.
"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,'' Trump told New York
magazine in a 2002 profile of Epstein written three years before Epstein
began to be investigated. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even
said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are
on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social
life."
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:46 PM (dciA+)
People who hate Trump are going to spin that as praise.
Anyone who knows anything about business and p.r. knows it is not. He's saying "great guy, likes 'em young." That's about as damning as you can get. The "great guy" stuff is fluff, and not in any way meant to be taken literally.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 03:55 PM (TOk1P)
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White privilege is not having to feel Barack Obama let your people down.
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From WZ: Cuba replacing Che posters with Obozo posters.
Hands across the waters.
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From WZ: Cuba replacing Che posters with Obozo posters.
Hands across the waters.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 18, 2016 03:55 PM (Nwg0u)
359
I'm seeing the #NeverTrump voices getting louder.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (fizMZ)
360
I have serious misgivings about Trump and I am a Cruz supporter. Having said that, I have also thought his campaign dead too many times thusfar to see him keep going on to write off November.
But still, Ted 2016. WTF people?
But still, Ted 2016. WTF people?
Posted by: Jollyroger at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (t06LC)
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Pull up the anti Trump ad that read back his statements on women. I don't think he's destroyed anything.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (PMkYS)
That's news to me. Link please?
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (PMkYS)
That's news to me. Link please?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (uURQL)
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How many times have you predicted the eminent end of Trump?
Imminent.
*flings poo*
What? I'm trying to distract from having been wrong about Pluto. I blame foreigners.
Imminent.
*flings poo*
What? I'm trying to distract from having been wrong about Pluto. I blame foreigners.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (1xUj/)
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351 Cruz accepts the endorsements just like Trump accepts endorsements: because they may woo over waverers.
If Cruz is now GOPe because of Romney, than Trump became GOPe when Christie endorsed him.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (UBBWX)
To say nothing of his political support for McConnell and Schumer. But he's really an outsider because he lives in New York.
If Cruz is now GOPe because of Romney, than Trump became GOPe when Christie endorsed him.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 03:54 PM (UBBWX)
To say nothing of his political support for McConnell and Schumer. But he's really an outsider because he lives in New York.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (p4UlV)
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But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
This comment isn't dated, it's petrified.
*kicks J.J. and runs away*
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
This comment isn't dated, it's petrified.
*kicks J.J. and runs away*
Posted by: Phone of kari at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (3D8P+)
365
Every one of you have seen every previous election where they pick some Republican who is their pick only to break them down when it's again to their favorite leftist.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (fizMZ)
"But it will be different this time."
I swear I've heard that somewhere else.
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (fizMZ)
"But it will be different this time."
I swear I've heard that somewhere else.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (bLnSU)
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>>
The talk of Trump getting under Hillary's skin is wishful thinking.
Trump is the most thin skinned person I've ever seen. The Hillary camp
knows that and that is what they will focus on. They will try to trap
Trump into saying the most outrageous things ever and he will likely
fall for it.
Please -- I need something to cling to! The whole race is so bananas right now it's taking a lot of work to not become completely depressed.
The talk of Trump getting under Hillary's skin is wishful thinking.
Trump is the most thin skinned person I've ever seen. The Hillary camp
knows that and that is what they will focus on. They will try to trap
Trump into saying the most outrageous things ever and he will likely
fall for it.
Please -- I need something to cling to! The whole race is so bananas right now it's taking a lot of work to not become completely depressed.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (NOIQH)
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The logic around here is severely lacking. "
What he said.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (WnCSK)
And yet, here we are. 13 others have bitten the dust and it's down to 2 1/2 men.
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Trump isn't exactly running away with this thing.
What he said.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 03:53 PM (WnCSK)
And yet, here we are. 13 others have bitten the dust and it's down to 2 1/2 men.
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Trump isn't exactly running away with this thing.
Posted by: SH at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Golfman at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (OzXP3)
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"So ace, your objection to Trump is solely based on the belief that he would lose in November?"
Read the blog. Listen to the podcasts.
Or just think about ordering the killing of family members of terrorists.
Israel even doesn't do that.
Read the blog. Listen to the podcasts.
Or just think about ordering the killing of family members of terrorists.
Israel even doesn't do that.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (UBBWX)
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Sharp elbows? Not sure what that means exactly. It is a political campaign after all.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Considering Cruz had to fire his communications director over the Rubio video, even Cruz thought some things crossed the line. And then the "Ben Carson has quit the race" on the night of Iowa which led to Carson endorsing Trump.
It is a campaign, yea bare knuckles and everything, but I think it has largely been self-defeating for Cruz.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Considering Cruz had to fire his communications director over the Rubio video, even Cruz thought some things crossed the line. And then the "Ben Carson has quit the race" on the night of Iowa which led to Carson endorsing Trump.
It is a campaign, yea bare knuckles and everything, but I think it has largely been self-defeating for Cruz.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (b/5nT)
371
I thought the whole reason he was in the NYT was because he was the "well-heeled" and "respected" conservative that agreed with the liberals 99.999999999% of the time. He was the token "No" guy who would put up a No against a plan, but explain why the bitter clingers were wrong in thier attack against an issue and that really the liberal plan is great just with a few changes. The same reason that Jen Rubin was in WaPo and a few others that lived inside the K street corridor or in Brown Stones on the west side or up on Beacon Hill. They were conservative to a point, but said all the right things to hang out with the cool kid liberals.
Posted by: Charles at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (fQ1xq)
372
War on women is coming back, its Hillary's entire campaign theme. Vote for the vagina. Trump is going to have to bat that thing back like a cloud of gnats. Can he do it well enough to win? I dunno.
Nobody else does, either.
Nobody else does, either.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (39g3+)
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Cruz accepts the endorsements just like Trump accepts endorsements: because they may woo over waverers.
Posted by: Harun
Ted Cruz 2016: Blameless for Anything He Does
Cruz accepts the endorsements just like Trump accepts endorsements: because they may woo over waverers.
Posted by: Harun
Ted Cruz 2016: Blameless for Anything He Does
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (kdS6q)
374
You are so dead wrong it's incredible. Head to head, Cruz would beat Trump handily. Hence all this talk the past few weeks of the Kasich/Mario spoiler effect.
But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (p4UlV)
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Facts are facts. Trump beat Cruz by 30%. Head to head, Trump would have still beat Cruz.
Somehow you think Cruz is going to win Florida.
But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (p4UlV)
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Facts are facts. Trump beat Cruz by 30%. Head to head, Trump would have still beat Cruz.
Somehow you think Cruz is going to win Florida.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (LXJ1e)
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And Trump was supposed to drop out last summer after the first debate. And then he was supposed to stagnate at 20% and then 30% and now 40% (in some cases higher than 50% - NY). Get back to me in mid-November when Trump is elected president.
This is not your typical election year. So the polling, the pundits, etc. are not working as we were told.
There is a LOT of time between now (middle of a primary) and November. So much can happen....
This is not your typical election year. So the polling, the pundits, etc. are not working as we were told.
There is a LOT of time between now (middle of a primary) and November. So much can happen....
Posted by: K-E at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (Fk/TY)
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I picture David walking around neighborhoods looking for mingling partners...and then getting shot down when he gets annoying...then he walks some more in his pink shirt and grey slacks, and impeccable shoes, then looks for more mingling partners...and when he can't find any, he gets in his Mercedes or Audi or BMW and drives to the nearest Starbucks and inserts himself into conversations, as a form of mingling.
I picture David walking around neighborhoods looking for mingling partners...and then getting shot down when he gets annoying...then he walks some more in his pink shirt and grey slacks, and impeccable shoes, then looks for more mingling partners...and when he can't find any, he gets in his Mercedes or Audi or BMW and drives to the nearest Starbucks and inserts himself into conversations, as a form of mingling.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz The Main Dude My Man Esq at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (8hbfN)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (1xUj/)
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What? I'm trying to distract from having been wrong about Pluto. I blame foreigners.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (1xUj/)
GFY.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (1xUj/)
GFY.
Posted by: Johannes Kepler, Foreigner at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (8ZskC)
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364 But you just keep on swooning like a bobby-soxer at a Sinatra concert.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
This comment isn't dated, it's petrified.
*kicks J.J. and runs away*
Posted by: Phone of kari at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (3D8P+)
OW! And my comment indicates erudition and knowledge.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
This comment isn't dated, it's petrified.
*kicks J.J. and runs away*
Posted by: Phone of kari at March 18, 2016 03:56 PM (3D8P+)
OW! And my comment indicates erudition and knowledge.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (p4UlV)
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first you didn't like Trump, then you sorta did, now you Definitely Don't
the one thing you've consistently done in re Trump, ace, is underestimate him
I did: I thought he'd fizzle or snap, and Slip-streaming Ted Cruz would maneuver past him and have the nom wrapped up by now. Wrong, I was
the one thing you've consistently done in re Trump, ace, is underestimate him
I did: I thought he'd fizzle or snap, and Slip-streaming Ted Cruz would maneuver past him and have the nom wrapped up by now. Wrong, I was
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (/542q)
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (WnCSK)
382
Did you foresee the rise of Trump--or simply laugh at the thought? Why shouldn't he win the general, you can't claim any particular predictive success, can you?
"Don't take this as any kind of endorsement of Trump from me -- Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster the very dimensions of which will perversely serve as a validation of the Establishment who actually caused the disaster."
Selling shit sandwiches is pretty much your comfort zone, no? It doesn't really matter if a GOP candidate who meets your approval wins. The Democrats would get anything they want. Democrats comprise 80 or 90 percent of the unelected bureaucracy, making regulations to satisfy the Left. It hurts the country if the Left wins, or if the GOP gets in.
It's over. The country is lost, and we're just choosing up sides for the coming struggle. No time for shit sandwiches in the Iron Years to come.
"Don't take this as any kind of endorsement of Trump from me -- Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster the very dimensions of which will perversely serve as a validation of the Establishment who actually caused the disaster."
Selling shit sandwiches is pretty much your comfort zone, no? It doesn't really matter if a GOP candidate who meets your approval wins. The Democrats would get anything they want. Democrats comprise 80 or 90 percent of the unelected bureaucracy, making regulations to satisfy the Left. It hurts the country if the Left wins, or if the GOP gets in.
It's over. The country is lost, and we're just choosing up sides for the coming struggle. No time for shit sandwiches in the Iron Years to come.
Posted by: Monty James at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (uLTvi)
383
Nood, I have enough
Posted by: Skip at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (fizMZ)
384
There are only Two Commandments:
1. Scankles McFelon must be defeated
2. Backstabbing incumbents must be defeated
All else is only Zule...
There are only Two Commandments:
1. Scankles McFelon must be defeated
2. Backstabbing incumbents must be defeated
All else is only Zule...
Posted by: Nihilistic Narcisist at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (WdXB6)
385
I hope Cruz does take the endorsement. I hope gets mega millions from Mitt's backers. I hope he spends the hell out of it. I hope Cruz leaves the gopE broke by the time of the convention.
Make it all the sweeter when Vice President Ted Cruz is announced.
One good effing deserves another one.
Make it all the sweeter when Vice President Ted Cruz is announced.
One good effing deserves another one.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (WVsWD)
386
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 03:51 PM (uURQL)
For voters like yourself Trumps ad was more effective. Unfortunately you're in the minority.
For voters like yourself Trumps ad was more effective. Unfortunately you're in the minority.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (PMkYS)
387
Trump/Cruz is the best ticket for the USA.
It will clobber the Uniparty by defeating the Democrats in November and the gope in August.
It will clobber the Uniparty by defeating the Democrats in November and the gope in August.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (MQEz6)
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"Cruz can't get Republicans to vote for him and he's going to beat Hillary? LOL"
You're going to learn that "Trump v. 12 Republicans in a circular firing squad" isn't QUITE the same game as "Trump v. one Democratic opponent." The hard way.
You're going to learn that "Trump v. 12 Republicans in a circular firing squad" isn't QUITE the same game as "Trump v. one Democratic opponent." The hard way.
Posted by: Trumps of Doom at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (CcpUn)
389
Also, Trump supporters: primary elections are not general elections.
There will not be 3 other candidates for Trump to play off. There will only be one.
The media will demand those tax returns. If you were smart, you'd want to see them NOW to vet them yourselves.
There will not be 3 other candidates for Trump to play off. There will only be one.
The media will demand those tax returns. If you were smart, you'd want to see them NOW to vet them yourselves.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (UBBWX)
390
Or just think about ordering the killing of family members of terrorists.
We do that. Israel does that. Its just not as clear a direct assassination as you make it sound.
What do you think happens to that wedding party when a missile sparks off that drone? Or that house? You think its a smart bomb that misses all the family members and only kills Achmed Al'Jihadi?
Or just think about ordering the killing of family members of terrorists.
We do that. Israel does that. Its just not as clear a direct assassination as you make it sound.
What do you think happens to that wedding party when a missile sparks off that drone? Or that house? You think its a smart bomb that misses all the family members and only kills Achmed Al'Jihadi?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)
391
War on women is coming back, its Hillary's entire campaign theme. Vote for the vagina. Trump is going to have to bat that thing back like a cloud of gnats. Can he do it well enough to win? I dunno.
The Donald gently reminded the public that BJ has been accused of rape recently. I haven't heard a peep from the Bitch of Benghazi about that bullshit WOW since.
War on women is coming back, its Hillary's entire campaign theme. Vote for the vagina. Trump is going to have to bat that thing back like a cloud of gnats. Can he do it well enough to win? I dunno.
The Donald gently reminded the public that BJ has been accused of rape recently. I haven't heard a peep from the Bitch of Benghazi about that bullshit WOW since.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 18, 2016 03:59 PM (LUgeY)
392
Anyone who knows anything about business and p.r. knows it is not. He's saying "great guy, likes 'em young." That's about as damning as you can get. The "great guy" stuff is fluff, and not in any way meant to be taken literally.
Posted by: BurtTC
I agree that the closer you look at the that quote, the more it looks like Trump is saying "watch out"
Regardless, I never looked to Trump as some sort of moral leader.
Anyone who knows anything about business and p.r. knows it is not. He's saying "great guy, likes 'em young." That's about as damning as you can get. The "great guy" stuff is fluff, and not in any way meant to be taken literally.
Posted by: BurtTC
I agree that the closer you look at the that quote, the more it looks like Trump is saying "watch out"
Regardless, I never looked to Trump as some sort of moral leader.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:59 PM (b/5nT)
393
Trump/Cruz ticket supporters, I have a suggestion, how about your guy Trump stop calling Ted a liar?
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 03:59 PM (UBBWX)
394
I'm seeing the #NeverTrump voices getting louder.
Posted by: Skip
Rage, rage against the dying of the light!
I'm seeing the #NeverTrump voices getting louder.
Posted by: Skip
Rage, rage against the dying of the light!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2016 03:59 PM (kdS6q)
395
War on women is coming back, its Hillary's entire campaign theme. Vote for the vagina. Trump is going to have to bat that thing back like a cloud of gnats. Can he do it well enough to win? I dunno.
Nobody else does, either.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (39g3+)
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True. But at least Trump has prepared the field somewhat with his speaking about some of the good thinks PP does (even though it turns my stomach when he does).
What's Cruz going to do?
Nobody else does, either.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (39g3+)
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True. But at least Trump has prepared the field somewhat with his speaking about some of the good thinks PP does (even though it turns my stomach when he does).
What's Cruz going to do?
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 04:00 PM (LXJ1e)
396
Even now, they don't get it. They will never get it.
Posted by: Lauren at March 18, 2016 04:00 PM (yKzMp)
397
I didn't under estimate Trump. I over estimated the voters.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:00 PM (PMkYS)
398
In no way do I get the sense he'd think this was pretty awesome.
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (dciA+)
The people who think the underaged girls thing is awesome are the ones NOT talking about it.
How many other people running for public office have mentioned Jeffrey Epstein's tastes? In public?
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 03:50 PM (dciA+)
The people who think the underaged girls thing is awesome are the ones NOT talking about it.
How many other people running for public office have mentioned Jeffrey Epstein's tastes? In public?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 04:00 PM (TOk1P)
399
374 Facts are facts. Trump beat Cruz by 30%. Head to head, Trump would have still beat Cruz.
Somehow you think Cruz is going to win Florida.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (LXJ1e)
Iowa. Down by 12. But apples and oranges. And had Rubio and Kasich not been in last Tuesday many of the delegates from the proportional states would have gone to Cruz or he would have won outright. And he'd have the damn delegate lead.
Again, head to head, he beats Trump. Would have been nice if Mr. Trump had actually not chickened out of the debate so the voters could hear actual policy statements one on one. But that would require bravery as well as literacy on the issues.
**inserts Hilary chicken laugh at Trump**
Somehow you think Cruz is going to win Florida.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (LXJ1e)
Iowa. Down by 12. But apples and oranges. And had Rubio and Kasich not been in last Tuesday many of the delegates from the proportional states would have gone to Cruz or he would have won outright. And he'd have the damn delegate lead.
Again, head to head, he beats Trump. Would have been nice if Mr. Trump had actually not chickened out of the debate so the voters could hear actual policy statements one on one. But that would require bravery as well as literacy on the issues.
**inserts Hilary chicken laugh at Trump**
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 04:00 PM (p4UlV)
400
Hey so re:RCP head to head polls:
Trump loses to Clinton by ~6
Cruz loses to Clinton by a fraction (0.6?)
Kasich wins by ~7
Well huh. We have a fly in our ointment. An Ohioan fly.
Should we include more data points?
Heck no! There's cheerleading to do!
Trump loses to Clinton by ~6
Cruz loses to Clinton by a fraction (0.6?)
Kasich wins by ~7
Well huh. We have a fly in our ointment. An Ohioan fly.
Should we include more data points?
Heck no! There's cheerleading to do!
Posted by: Phone of kari at March 18, 2016 04:00 PM (3D8P+)
401
There will not be 3 other candidates for Trump to play off. There will only be one.
Or, he won't have to beat 2 other guys, just one. Who can say?
The media will demand those tax returns.
Nah, they'll just go to the IRS and someone will accidentally leave it out on a desk then go get a 20-minute cup of coffee like a cop in a detective movie. They won't have to demand anything.
Or, he won't have to beat 2 other guys, just one. Who can say?
The media will demand those tax returns.
Nah, they'll just go to the IRS and someone will accidentally leave it out on a desk then go get a 20-minute cup of coffee like a cop in a detective movie. They won't have to demand anything.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 04:00 PM (39g3+)
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On the Epstein stuff, I think it makes a Trump attack on that angle stronger.
"I personally know this guy. You know, I said he's a nice guy, because that's what you say, but really, he's kind of a sick perv."
Trump can easily swing that.
"I personally know this guy. You know, I said he's a nice guy, because that's what you say, but really, he's kind of a sick perv."
Trump can easily swing that.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 04:01 PM (UBBWX)
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from last thread
301
Anyways, nothing will convince Trump people.
Even the day he loses in November, they won't blame Trump.
They'll say he was stabbed in the back by ________.
Posted by: Harun
Bro.
I like you. But seriously? Here at AOSHQ:
" Cruz woulda coulda shoulda but mean old _______ stole his cookies".
Day in.
Day out.
Come on. When are you going to be honest and blame Ted? I voted for him . I like him. He's losing.
I seriously think you guys are suffering from "protection projection".
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Anyways, nothing will convince Trump people.
Even the day he loses in November, they won't blame Trump.
They'll say he was stabbed in the back by ________.
Posted by: Harun
Bro.
I like you. But seriously? Here at AOSHQ:
" Cruz woulda coulda shoulda but mean old _______ stole his cookies".
Day in.
Day out.
Come on. When are you going to be honest and blame Ted? I voted for him . I like him. He's losing.
I seriously think you guys are suffering from "protection projection".
Posted by: Mortimer at March 18, 2016 04:01 PM (7wqb3)
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Or just think about ordering the killing of family members of terrorists.
We do that. Israel does that. Its just not as clear a direct assassination as you make it sound.
What do you think happens to that wedding party when a missile sparks off that drone? Or that house? You think its a smart bomb that misses all the family members and only kills Achmed Al'Jihadi?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I definitely have no moral issue with this, Osama Bin Ladin had his wives with him when the compound was raided, etc. They are all part of the Jihad
I think it was stupid for Trump to say it, but I have no problem with the implementation, even though it won't really happen.
We do that. Israel does that. Its just not as clear a direct assassination as you make it sound.
What do you think happens to that wedding party when a missile sparks off that drone? Or that house? You think its a smart bomb that misses all the family members and only kills Achmed Al'Jihadi?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
I definitely have no moral issue with this, Osama Bin Ladin had his wives with him when the compound was raided, etc. They are all part of the Jihad
I think it was stupid for Trump to say it, but I have no problem with the implementation, even though it won't really happen.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 04:01 PM (b/5nT)
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i said a long time ago that Trump has a problem with women voters
he can tap indies, blacks, reagan dems, blue collars, and any number of smaller groups
but women, the really big group? he has to do more than pat their behinds
if he solves the problem of his not appealing to women just enough, he wins
and it's not going to be solved by his appealing to "the good that PP does do"
he needs to bring really smart and successful women around him, like Fiorina
his treatment of her was ill-judged and will haunt him
he can tap indies, blacks, reagan dems, blue collars, and any number of smaller groups
but women, the really big group? he has to do more than pat their behinds
if he solves the problem of his not appealing to women just enough, he wins
and it's not going to be solved by his appealing to "the good that PP does do"
he needs to bring really smart and successful women around him, like Fiorina
his treatment of her was ill-judged and will haunt him
Posted by: Feh at March 18, 2016 04:01 PM (IIdNI)
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Oh now I gave to read the blog?
What has this place turned into...
What has this place turned into...
Posted by: @votermom at March 18, 2016 04:02 PM (cbfNE)
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War on women is coming back, its Hillary's entire campaign theme. Vote for the vagina. Trump is going to have to bat that thing back like a cloud of gnats. Can he do it well enough to win? I dunno.
Nobody else does, either.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (39g3+)
Alphas get away with a lot. They can pinch a girl's butt and she'll be delighted, where if you or I did it, it'd be rape.
Look at Clinton. Raped women ... and they let him get away with it. Some of that is the (D), but a bigger chunk of it is the Power (and Money).
Nobody else does, either.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (39g3+)
Alphas get away with a lot. They can pinch a girl's butt and she'll be delighted, where if you or I did it, it'd be rape.
Look at Clinton. Raped women ... and they let him get away with it. Some of that is the (D), but a bigger chunk of it is the Power (and Money).
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:02 PM (uURQL)
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Anyone who knows anything about business and p.r.
knows it is not. He's saying "great guy, likes 'em young." That's about
as damning as you can get. The "great guy" stuff is fluff, and not in
any way meant to be taken literally.
Posted by: BurtTC
I agree that the closer you look at the that quote, the more it looks like Trump is saying "watch out"
Regardless, I never looked to Trump as some sort of moral leader.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:59 PM (b/5nT)
No doubt. Trump likes the ladies, he says say. He's merely announcing there's a line among those in his world, and Epstein was on the other side of it.
Not exactly moral virtue, but it is something of a statement of where he stands.
knows it is not. He's saying "great guy, likes 'em young." That's about
as damning as you can get. The "great guy" stuff is fluff, and not in
any way meant to be taken literally.
Posted by: BurtTC
I agree that the closer you look at the that quote, the more it looks like Trump is saying "watch out"
Regardless, I never looked to Trump as some sort of moral leader.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 03:59 PM (b/5nT)
No doubt. Trump likes the ladies, he says say. He's merely announcing there's a line among those in his world, and Epstein was on the other side of it.
Not exactly moral virtue, but it is something of a statement of where he stands.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 18, 2016 04:02 PM (TOk1P)
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"Or, he won't have to beat 2 other guys, just one. Who can say?"
Its easier to win races when you can take 40% vs. 30/30 than 60%.
"The media will demand those tax returns.
Nah, they'll just go to the IRS and someone will accidentally leave it out on a desk then go get a 20-minute cup of coffee like a cop in a detective movie. They won't have to demand anything."
Yep, this is right. So, as a primary voter you need to ask yourself....do I want them out sooner or later?
Its easier to win races when you can take 40% vs. 30/30 than 60%.
"The media will demand those tax returns.
Nah, they'll just go to the IRS and someone will accidentally leave it out on a desk then go get a 20-minute cup of coffee like a cop in a detective movie. They won't have to demand anything."
Yep, this is right. So, as a primary voter you need to ask yourself....do I want them out sooner or later?
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 04:03 PM (UBBWX)
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I'm positive that I'm not the first to ever ask this question, but between Trump and Hillary, which is the douche and which is the shit sandwich? Frankly, I'm all in on Donny as the douche and HRC as the shit sandwich, but I'm keeping an open mind.
Posted by: irright at March 18, 2016 04:03 PM (XfEYT)
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Five Light Minutes From Earth? Isn't that the stop action dinosaur rampage movie?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 18, 2016 04:03 PM (Nwg0u)
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)
That's collateral damage and many attacks have been called off because of it. Calling for the direct killing of the family and children of terrorists is disgusting.
That's collateral damage and many attacks have been called off because of it. Calling for the direct killing of the family and children of terrorists is disgusting.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:03 PM (PMkYS)
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I suspect that Trump's problems with women are a bit overstated simply because too many dim witted women out there vote for the alpha male and aren't fond of other women doing better than them. how many? I dunno. I just know at least some exist.
"I personally know this guy. You know, I said he's a nice guy, because that's what you say, but really, he's kind of a sick perv."
Exactly. Its easy to spin around and work for him. That's why he words stuff the way he does, its all about wiggle room.
"I personally know this guy. You know, I said he's a nice guy, because that's what you say, but really, he's kind of a sick perv."
Exactly. Its easy to spin around and work for him. That's why he words stuff the way he does, its all about wiggle room.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 04:03 PM (39g3+)
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OW! And my comment indicates erudition and knowledge.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (p4UlV)
It's the bee's knees, Jackson!
OW! And my comment indicates erudition and knowledge.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 03:57 PM (p4UlV)
It's the bee's knees, Jackson!
Posted by: I babysat your granny! at March 18, 2016 04:03 PM (QlyN5)
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but women, the really big group? he has to do more than pat their behinds
Thanks; This thread needed a laugh.
Thanks; This thread needed a laugh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 18, 2016 04:04 PM (w4NZ8)
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The people who think the underaged girls thing is awesome are the ones NOT talking about it.
How many other people running for public office have mentioned Jeffrey Epstein's tastes? In public?
Posted by: BurtTC
Good god, I haven't seen that kind of contortion north of Tijuana.
How many other people running for public office have mentioned Jeffrey Epstein's tastes? In public?
Posted by: BurtTC
Good god, I haven't seen that kind of contortion north of Tijuana.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 18, 2016 04:04 PM (1xUj/)
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For voters like yourself Trumps ad was more effective. Unfortunately you're in the minority.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (PMkYS)
So the majority of voters see
1. Putin - Alpha world leader, dangerous and confident
2. Hillary - old crone
and will decide that 2's mockery has more impact? I'm going to need to see more analysis supporting that asserted position.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (PMkYS)
So the majority of voters see
1. Putin - Alpha world leader, dangerous and confident
2. Hillary - old crone
and will decide that 2's mockery has more impact? I'm going to need to see more analysis supporting that asserted position.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:04 PM (uURQL)
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It just galls me that a low class vulgarian with a dubious record in business as well as political affiliation, with no real grounding in why America is great may well be the nominee.
And yet someone who has gone up against the establishment in the Senate and at the SCOTUS - probably the best candidate we've had since 1989 is being vilified and blood-libeled here by people who I think out to know better, but because the other guy flung poo at targets worthy of it, turn a blind eye to what's behind the curtain.
Maddening. Just maddening.
It just galls me that a low class vulgarian with a dubious record in business as well as political affiliation, with no real grounding in why America is great may well be the nominee.
And yet someone who has gone up against the establishment in the Senate and at the SCOTUS - probably the best candidate we've had since 1989 is being vilified and blood-libeled here by people who I think out to know better, but because the other guy flung poo at targets worthy of it, turn a blind eye to what's behind the curtain.
Maddening. Just maddening.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 04:04 PM (p4UlV)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 18, 2016 04:05 PM (w4NZ8)
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We do that. Israel does that. Its just not as clear a direct assassination as you make it sound.
What do you think happens to that wedding party when a missile sparks off that drone? Or that house? You think its a smart bomb that misses all the family members and only kills Achmed Al'Jihadi?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)
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Honestly, I think Trump is saying our ROE is going to me "no safe place". Your mama or daddy supports you in jihad, they get taken out too because we don't know what the hell else is being planned under their roof.
What do you think happens to that wedding party when a missile sparks off that drone? Or that house? You think its a smart bomb that misses all the family members and only kills Achmed Al'Jihadi?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)
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Honestly, I think Trump is saying our ROE is going to me "no safe place". Your mama or daddy supports you in jihad, they get taken out too because we don't know what the hell else is being planned under their roof.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 18, 2016 04:05 PM (LXJ1e)
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Calling for the direct killing of the family and children of terrorists is disgusting.
Yeah it was over the top, and he shouldn't have said it. But lets not get on our high dudgeon and sputter all outraged about how we'd never do that, its just not what America does.
Yeah it is. War is like that. That's why its hell and we avoid it if all possible. Remember American Sniper? First two kills: a little kid and his mom.
Yeah it was over the top, and he shouldn't have said it. But lets not get on our high dudgeon and sputter all outraged about how we'd never do that, its just not what America does.
Yeah it is. War is like that. That's why its hell and we avoid it if all possible. Remember American Sniper? First two kills: a little kid and his mom.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 04:05 PM (39g3+)
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Calling for the direct killing of the family and children of terrorists is disgusting.
It's their language. Why aren't you accepting of multicultural diversity?
It's their language. Why aren't you accepting of multicultural diversity?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:05 PM (uURQL)
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i said a long time ago that Trump has a problem with women voters
he can tap indies, blacks, reagan dems, blue collars, and any number of smaller groups
but women, the really big group? he has to do more than pat their behinds
if he solves the problem of his not appealing to women just enough, he wins
and it's not going to be solved by his appealing to "the good that PP does do"
Posted by: Feh
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I agree Trump's biggest obstacle will be women voters, that should really be his #1 priority to adapt to because if he doesn't change his current trajectory with them as a group, he loses.
He's got the male vote sewn up.
he can tap indies, blacks, reagan dems, blue collars, and any number of smaller groups
but women, the really big group? he has to do more than pat their behinds
if he solves the problem of his not appealing to women just enough, he wins
and it's not going to be solved by his appealing to "the good that PP does do"
Posted by: Feh
_____________
I agree Trump's biggest obstacle will be women voters, that should really be his #1 priority to adapt to because if he doesn't change his current trajectory with them as a group, he loses.
He's got the male vote sewn up.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 04:06 PM (b/5nT)
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Trump gets my vote if he gets the nod. I sincerely hope that some of his more vociferous supporters would agree to the same if Mr. Cruz comes out on top.
I'm done.
Trump gets my vote if he gets the nod. I sincerely hope that some of his more vociferous supporters would agree to the same if Mr. Cruz comes out on top.
I'm done.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 18, 2016 04:06 PM (p4UlV)
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@389
Trump has a far better chance in the general than Cruz does.The Dem base is not excited about Clinton and Trump can exploit that and hope for low voter turnout on the Dem side.Cruz Will Energize the Dem base and drive voter turnout to defeat him
@389
Trump has a far better chance in the general than Cruz does.The Dem base is not excited about Clinton and Trump can exploit that and hope for low voter turnout on the Dem side.Cruz Will Energize the Dem base and drive voter turnout to defeat him
Posted by: flawless male logic at March 18, 2016 04:06 PM (lKyWE)
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@Mortimer, I agree with you to some extent. Cruz supporters blame others a lot, too. Myself included.
I don't like Cruz that much, though. I can understand why he's not winning.
Self-awareness matters.
Also, I do believe there are external reasons for losses.
Rand Paul, my first choice, doesn't do well if ISIS is attacking the homeland.
I don't like Cruz that much, though. I can understand why he's not winning.
Self-awareness matters.
Also, I do believe there are external reasons for losses.
Rand Paul, my first choice, doesn't do well if ISIS is attacking the homeland.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 04:06 PM (UBBWX)
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Yeah it is. War is like that. That's why its hell and we avoid it if all possible. Remember American Sniper? First two kills: a little kid and his mom.
Atomic Bombs.
That is the American way of war in a nutshell. /Jackson
Atomic Bombs.
That is the American way of war in a nutshell. /Jackson
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:06 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Willardbot 3.34 at March 18, 2016 04:07 PM (37OkS)
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413 I suspect that Trump's problems with women are a bit overstated simply because too many dim witted women out there vote for the alpha male and aren't fond of other women doing better than them.
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It's not to dimwitted to vote for the alpha, hi enough everything they say is lies anyway.
I mean say you have to pick between Trump and Bernie. Doesn't every sane person's gut scream "not the wimp!"
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It's not to dimwitted to vote for the alpha, hi enough everything they say is lies anyway.
I mean say you have to pick between Trump and Bernie. Doesn't every sane person's gut scream "not the wimp!"
Posted by: @votermom at March 18, 2016 04:07 PM (cbfNE)
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being vilified and blood-libeled
JJ where?
I see people giving reasons that they do not like Cruz. Nothing extreme.
Most of the pro-Trump folks are admittedly pro-Cruz.
Please help me out here?
JJ where?
I see people giving reasons that they do not like Cruz. Nothing extreme.
Most of the pro-Trump folks are admittedly pro-Cruz.
Please help me out here?
Posted by: Mortimer at March 18, 2016 04:07 PM (7wqb3)
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390 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)
Killing people's families is not who we are.
//Curtis LeMay
Killing people's families is not who we are.
//Curtis LeMay
Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2016 04:07 PM (g8Hfr)
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"Trump has a far better chance in the general than Cruz does.The Dem base is not excited about Clinton and Trump can exploit that and hope for low voter turnout on the Dem side.Cruz Will Energize the Dem base and drive voter turnout to defeat him"
If Trump can keep Dems home, that will be great.
But I think Trump will energize them to come out.
There will be "Vote for the crook!" signs even.
If Trump can keep Dems home, that will be great.
But I think Trump will energize them to come out.
There will be "Vote for the crook!" signs even.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 04:07 PM (UBBWX)
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The first rule of E Pluribus Boinkem Island is don't talk about E Pluribus Boinkem Island.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 18, 2016 04:08 PM (Nwg0u)
434
The Romney Nood you have all been waiting for is up!
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:09 PM (uURQL)
435
19 David Brooks is a pompous ass.
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (a0IVu)
Boy, I'll say.
Posted by: IC at March 18, 2016 03:07 PM (a0IVu)
Boy, I'll say.
Posted by: Tom Friedman at March 18, 2016 04:09 PM (AESvw)
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I'm agnostic on Trump -- I will vote for Cruz in the primary, but will vote for ANYONE running against Hillary, and that includes Trump -- but I sure as heck do not trust any polls or any pronouncements that Trump is doomed to fail.
Ditto. Exactly.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (8ZskC)
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Trump's name calling is childish. Please, Trump stop and stick to the issues. Nobody wants a boss that is rude and insulting. He's afraid to go on shows that he feels are mean to him. Seems to like MSNBC.
I expect him to be a huge baby if he doesn't win and wouldn't be surprised if he ends up supporting Hillary.
Is anybody sure he won't?
Cruz won't be supporting Hillary & would make such a great POTUS. This is the kind of candidate that I thought we all wanted for so long.
I will be voting for Trump against Hillary, but I will be holding my nose because I think he will be Dem. lite & a lot of hot air. Many women I know will know will not for him
Ditto. Exactly.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 18, 2016 03:28 PM (8ZskC)
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Trump's name calling is childish. Please, Trump stop and stick to the issues. Nobody wants a boss that is rude and insulting. He's afraid to go on shows that he feels are mean to him. Seems to like MSNBC.
I expect him to be a huge baby if he doesn't win and wouldn't be surprised if he ends up supporting Hillary.
Is anybody sure he won't?
Cruz won't be supporting Hillary & would make such a great POTUS. This is the kind of candidate that I thought we all wanted for so long.
I will be voting for Trump against Hillary, but I will be holding my nose because I think he will be Dem. lite & a lot of hot air. Many women I know will know will not for him
Posted by: redridinghood at March 18, 2016 04:09 PM (7GQM/)
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Calling for the direct killing of the family and children of terrorists is disgusting.
Yeah it was over the top, and he shouldn't have said it. But lets not get on our high dudgeon and sputter all outraged about how we'd never do that, its just not what America does.
Yeah it is. War is like that. That's why its hell and we avoid it if all possible. Remember American Sniper? First two kills: a little kid and his mom.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
And yet how many people think dropping an atomic bomb on civilians in Japan was immoral? there were a LOT of women and children killed in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
It was a stupid thing for Trump to say out loud, but my recollection is Clinton passed on bombing Osama in the 90's because "non-terrorists" would have been hit?
So the idea of a few jihadists' wives maybe being killed as collateral damage in a drone attack doesn't keep me up at night.
Yeah it was over the top, and he shouldn't have said it. But lets not get on our high dudgeon and sputter all outraged about how we'd never do that, its just not what America does.
Yeah it is. War is like that. That's why its hell and we avoid it if all possible. Remember American Sniper? First two kills: a little kid and his mom.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
And yet how many people think dropping an atomic bomb on civilians in Japan was immoral? there were a LOT of women and children killed in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
It was a stupid thing for Trump to say out loud, but my recollection is Clinton passed on bombing Osama in the 90's because "non-terrorists" would have been hit?
So the idea of a few jihadists' wives maybe being killed as collateral damage in a drone attack doesn't keep me up at night.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 04:09 PM (b/5nT)
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432 Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 04:07 PM (UBBWX)
If 2012 taught us anything it is there is no level of "scum" brand d won't pull the lever for happily.
Hillary could brag she got those people killed and she'd still get high donkey turnout.
If 2012 taught us anything it is there is no level of "scum" brand d won't pull the lever for happily.
Hillary could brag she got those people killed and she'd still get high donkey turnout.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2016 04:09 PM (g8Hfr)
439
I don't claim to know as a *fact* that Trump can win the GE; however since Cruz supporters all think Cruz can -- please enlighten me as to which states Cruz can carry in the GE that Romney did not?
You can't -- Cruz may extend Romney's popular vote total with his "top of the class" GOTV effort that gets every snake handler to the polls, but he doesn't add even 1 more to the Electoral College total.
Better to gamble on guy who actually appeals to middle class, blue collar guys (black AND white) in Union heavy states. Something Cruz decidedly does not.
You can't -- Cruz may extend Romney's popular vote total with his "top of the class" GOTV effort that gets every snake handler to the polls, but he doesn't add even 1 more to the Electoral College total.
Better to gamble on guy who actually appeals to middle class, blue collar guys (black AND white) in Union heavy states. Something Cruz decidedly does not.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at March 18, 2016 04:10 PM (lZaEn)
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Trump isn't saying its okay to have collateral damage.
He's saying he would send people to purposely kill the families.
He's saying he would send people to purposely kill the families.
Posted by: Harun at March 18, 2016 04:10 PM (UBBWX)
441
Ted Cruz is just a man, not a saint.
He is not as much an enemy of the gope as he would like folks to believe.
These days he is desperate because Donald Trump took his lunch money.
Oh, look, there's Mitt waving a sandwich.
He is not as much an enemy of the gope as he would like folks to believe.
These days he is desperate because Donald Trump took his lunch money.
Oh, look, there's Mitt waving a sandwich.
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 04:10 PM (MQEz6)
442
Trump gets my vote if he gets the nod. I sincerely hope that some of his more vociferous supporters would agree to the same if Mr. Cruz comes out on top.
I'm done.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Cruz has my vote in the general without question if he ends up winning.
I'm done.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Cruz has my vote in the general without question if he ends up winning.
Posted by: Baldwin at March 18, 2016 04:11 PM (b/5nT)
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293 ---Posted by: fixerupper at March 18, 2016 03:47 PM (8XRCm)
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Yep. Nice rant.
It's the GOPe's fault. It really is.
Trump, IMO, is a complete disaster but I don't blame him or his supporters.
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Yep. Nice rant.
It's the GOPe's fault. It really is.
Trump, IMO, is a complete disaster but I don't blame him or his supporters.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 18, 2016 04:11 PM (T/5A0)
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Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 18, 2016 04:05 PM (39g3+)
sorry there is no comparison and no spin that can make that statement less disgusting and UN-American. We do not and never have directly targeted women and children for death as payback.
sorry there is no comparison and no spin that can make that statement less disgusting and UN-American. We do not and never have directly targeted women and children for death as payback.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:12 PM (PMkYS)
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I had to look it up, but Brooks is the asshat who wrote The Follower Problem at NYT in 2012. He's so elitist I'll be even the elitists hate his guts.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opinion/brooks-the-follower-problem.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opinion/brooks-the-follower-problem.html
Posted by: Joel at March 18, 2016 04:12 PM (uqZfI)
Posted by: Mortimer at March 18, 2016 04:12 PM (7wqb3)
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"And yet, here we are. 13 others have bitten the dust and it's down to 2 1/2 men."
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One mathematically already eliminated and one with a realistically impossible task.
Cruz is only playing spoiler. Admit it. He couldn't win on his own. Was never ever the front runner (aside from Iowa) only the guy with enough money to hold out the longest.
Common core politics. Haha.
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One mathematically already eliminated and one with a realistically impossible task.
Cruz is only playing spoiler. Admit it. He couldn't win on his own. Was never ever the front runner (aside from Iowa) only the guy with enough money to hold out the longest.
Common core politics. Haha.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 18, 2016 04:13 PM (FKK9k)
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It just galls me that a low class vulgarian with a dubious record in business as well as political affiliation, with no real grounding in why America is great may well be the nominee.
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But enough about Hillary.
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But enough about Hillary.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 18, 2016 04:13 PM (Nwg0u)
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444 Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:12 PM (PMkYS)
Absolutely.
//Enola Gay and Bockscar
Absolutely.
//Enola Gay and Bockscar
Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2016 04:13 PM (g8Hfr)
450
"I don't claim to know as a *fact* that Trump can win the GE; however since Cruz supporters all think Cruz can -- please enlighten me as to which states Cruz can carry in the GE that Romney did not?
You can't -- Cruz may extend Romney's popular vote total with his "top of the class" GOTV effort that gets every snake handler to the polls, but he doesn't add even 1 more to the Electoral College total.
Better to gamble on guy who actually appeals to middle class, blue collar guys (black AND white) in Union heavy states. Something Cruz decidedly does not."
100% correct and good luck getting an answer. I already tried.
At least with Trump, Florida is very much a possibility and PA could be in play. With Cruz, they both go to Hillary from the start.
If you look at the electoral map objectively and in comparison to 2012, you can almost assume Hillary sits at 266 against Cruz right now. She needs 4 (Nevada - Harry Reids home state) and she has the white house.
You can't -- Cruz may extend Romney's popular vote total with his "top of the class" GOTV effort that gets every snake handler to the polls, but he doesn't add even 1 more to the Electoral College total.
Better to gamble on guy who actually appeals to middle class, blue collar guys (black AND white) in Union heavy states. Something Cruz decidedly does not."
100% correct and good luck getting an answer. I already tried.
At least with Trump, Florida is very much a possibility and PA could be in play. With Cruz, they both go to Hillary from the start.
If you look at the electoral map objectively and in comparison to 2012, you can almost assume Hillary sits at 266 against Cruz right now. She needs 4 (Nevada - Harry Reids home state) and she has the white house.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 04:13 PM (WnCSK)
451
After terrorists nuke an American city how many folks will get all queasy about killing terrorist family members?
Posted by: eman at March 18, 2016 04:14 PM (MQEz6)
452
This country is in bad shape. The country is weaker economically and militarily since Prezzy Traitor took over. Politicians and the MFM having been lying to them about how bad it is. If the Republicans had any brains, balls or a combo of both they would pound this point home and win in November.
This country is in bad shape. The country is weaker economically and militarily since Prezzy Traitor took over. Politicians and the MFM having been lying to them about how bad it is. If the Republicans had any brains, balls or a combo of both they would pound this point home and win in November.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 18, 2016 04:15 PM (493sH)
453
>>>260 If the Establishment is trying to bargain with Cruz, does that not indicate that the Establishment thinks they have no chance to defeat him, or Trump?
no
they are playing mind games.
no
they are playing mind games.
Posted by: nellie naysayer at March 18, 2016 04:15 PM (ceWrl)
454
The way this is shaping up, Cruz might be able to ride in to save the country from Delusional Donald and Mad Hatter Hillary. He is the only hope we have and everyone who is anti Trump or Hillary needs to treat him like the only white knight we've got left. I will channel all of my hatred for Brooks and the incestuous idiots in NY and Washington into support for Ted!
Posted by: IanDeal at March 18, 2016 04:16 PM (teGBX)
455
We do not and never have directly targeted women and children for death as payback.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:12 PM (PMkYS)
"During the French and Indian War, in June 12, 1755, Governor William Shirley of Massachusetts Bay colony was offering a bounty of £40 for a male Indian scalp, and £20 for scalps of females or of children under 12 years old."
Bullshit is bullshit.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:12 PM (PMkYS)
"During the French and Indian War, in June 12, 1755, Governor William Shirley of Massachusetts Bay colony was offering a bounty of £40 for a male Indian scalp, and £20 for scalps of females or of children under 12 years old."
Bullshit is bullshit.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:16 PM (uURQL)
456
But I think Trump will energize them to come out.
All i can tell you is what I see.I live in Hollywood, you mention Trump you get bemused looks and jokes about what a loud mouthed ass he but not much else.You mention Cruz the look on their faces changeand it becomes vile hatred.
But I think Trump will energize them to come out.
All i can tell you is what I see.I live in Hollywood, you mention Trump you get bemused looks and jokes about what a loud mouthed ass he but not much else.You mention Cruz the look on their faces changeand it becomes vile hatred.
Posted by: flawless male logic at March 18, 2016 04:17 PM (lKyWE)
457
"Trump gets my vote if he gets the nod. I sincerely hope that some of his more vociferous supporters would agree to the same if Mr. Cruz comes out on top.
"
Absolutely. If Cruz gets the nomination he gets my full support. I will not however support some other candidate that the establishment decides to pull out of it's ass at the last moment.
"
Absolutely. If Cruz gets the nomination he gets my full support. I will not however support some other candidate that the establishment decides to pull out of it's ass at the last moment.
Posted by: Skeezix at March 18, 2016 04:18 PM (WnCSK)
458
455 Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:16 PM (uURQL)
Francis Marion is kind of laughing.
Francis Marion is kind of laughing.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2016 04:19 PM (g8Hfr)
459
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:16 PM (uURQL)
So the British did it.
So the British did it.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:19 PM (PMkYS)
460
334
What if Trump wins and picks Ted as his running mate? Does that mean we (conservatives) all come home? Posted by: Jollyroger at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (t06LC)
I think Trump should pick Cruz as insurance. The RINOs will try to impeach otherwise. If they face the prospect of Cruz after impeachment they will think twice. Plus, Cruz is young enough to be a follow-on President in 4 to 8 years.
What if Trump wins and picks Ted as his running mate? Does that mean we (conservatives) all come home? Posted by: Jollyroger at March 18, 2016 03:52 PM (t06LC)
I think Trump should pick Cruz as insurance. The RINOs will try to impeach otherwise. If they face the prospect of Cruz after impeachment they will think twice. Plus, Cruz is young enough to be a follow-on President in 4 to 8 years.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 04:20 PM (kfoLf)
461
"You're going to learn that "Trump v. 12 Republicans in a circular firing squad" isn't QUITE the same game as "Trump v. one Democratic opponent." The hard way. "
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Yeah, it's going to be a lot easier for Trump. One on one - Trump vs. Hillary - Trump wins without breaking a sweat.
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Yeah, it's going to be a lot easier for Trump. One on one - Trump vs. Hillary - Trump wins without breaking a sweat.
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 18, 2016 04:20 PM (FKK9k)
462
459 Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:19 PM (PMkYS)
Absolutely...I'm British.
//Wm Tecumseh Sherman on the Plains
Absolutely...I'm British.
//Wm Tecumseh Sherman on the Plains
Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2016 04:21 PM (g8Hfr)
463
"Absolutely. If Cruz gets the nomination he gets my full support. I
will not however support some other candidate that the establishment
decides to pull out of it's ass at the last moment."
Me too. I hope the Cruz supporters can do likewise.
will not however support some other candidate that the establishment
decides to pull out of it's ass at the last moment."
Me too. I hope the Cruz supporters can do likewise.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 04:22 PM (kfoLf)
464
So the British did it.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:19 PM (PMkYS)
British colonists did it, yes. Who became Americans, and later genocided the Native Americans from the land.
Custer was attacking the Indian village because that's where the women and children were. His timing was a bit off so he attacked it while the men were there, too.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 18, 2016 04:19 PM (PMkYS)
British colonists did it, yes. Who became Americans, and later genocided the Native Americans from the land.
Custer was attacking the Indian village because that's where the women and children were. His timing was a bit off so he attacked it while the men were there, too.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 18, 2016 04:23 PM (uURQL)
465
Another reason I like Trump-Cruz; I don't think Trump will run again in 2020.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 04:23 PM (kfoLf)
466
If Cruz is the nominee he gets my vote,not that it matters here
If Cruz is the nominee he gets my vote,not that it matters here
Posted by: flawless male logic at March 18, 2016 04:24 PM (lKyWE)
Posted by: Kensington at March 18, 2016 04:25 PM (7Kbxu)
468
Spot on, Ace.
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at March 18, 2016 04:33 PM (gsFeA)
469
Let them eat penis!
Posted by: The GOPe at March 18, 2016 04:36 PM (Dttnn)
470
Quote of the decade:
"We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough. For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country."
--David Brooks
"We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough. For me, it's a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I'm going to report accurately on this country."
--David Brooks
Posted by: Pouncer at March 18, 2016 04:38 PM (K5tcP)
471
Me too. I hope the Cruz supporters can do likewise.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 04:22 PM (kfoLf)
I have to be honest, saying that just sounds patronizing to me at this point. I genuinely think Cruz has no chance unless everything goes perfectly for him- spoiler warning, it won't.
Despite what I say about him being telling ridiculous whoppers that have zero effect (Trump's taxes show him in with the Mafia, etc), I do hope he'll be on board for the next big fight. The election can go with or without him, but I think he'd be much better off as a special prosecutor digging up the last roots of the Clinton tree, as opposed to being thrown out with the rest of the garbage.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 18, 2016 04:22 PM (kfoLf)
I have to be honest, saying that just sounds patronizing to me at this point. I genuinely think Cruz has no chance unless everything goes perfectly for him- spoiler warning, it won't.
Despite what I say about him being telling ridiculous whoppers that have zero effect (Trump's taxes show him in with the Mafia, etc), I do hope he'll be on board for the next big fight. The election can go with or without him, but I think he'd be much better off as a special prosecutor digging up the last roots of the Clinton tree, as opposed to being thrown out with the rest of the garbage.
Posted by: trev006 at March 18, 2016 04:44 PM (MEHba)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 18, 2016 04:50 PM (g8Hfr)
473
Maybe in 50 years, after we've had it given to us good and hard, we'll be like Eastern Europe and see the light. Maybe.
Posted by: Brendan at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (gkvx9)
Unlikely. By that time the culture will have been destroyed, and the entire place become another Third World shithole, thanks to the unfettered admission of all the illegals, Muslims, etc that the Communists want in the first place, and for that very reason.
Posted by: Brendan at March 18, 2016 03:10 PM (gkvx9)
Unlikely. By that time the culture will have been destroyed, and the entire place become another Third World shithole, thanks to the unfettered admission of all the illegals, Muslims, etc that the Communists want in the first place, and for that very reason.
Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at March 18, 2016 04:53 PM (2Bjv9)
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at March 18, 2016 04:53 PM (FKK9k)
475
I do hope the Trump supporters won't be too upset if his path to the Presidency as not indeed as easy as they think it will be and that maybe he won't be wiping the floor with her. As I said, I will support him if he gets the nomination but the Clinton machine is very large and very dirty.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 18, 2016 04:58 PM (w4NZ8)
476
Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster the very dimensions of which will perversely serve as a validation of the Establishment who actually caused the disaster.
But clearly this is one of the most traditional outcomes in politics, a more elaborate version of "Heads I win, tails you lose." The Establishment can be deprived of status only by revolution; that is to say, what must be brought low is not the Establishment but the structure on which it rests. This is not an endorsement of revolution though it is nonetheless a statement of fact. The Establishment will have its prominence restored and then say to the public, at allegedly gravitas-inducing length, "We were embarrassed, and were compelled to concede that we were embarrassed. Surely this is punishment enough; after all, it's only happened very rarely."
Incidentally, Ace, this rant is brilliant.
But clearly this is one of the most traditional outcomes in politics, a more elaborate version of "Heads I win, tails you lose." The Establishment can be deprived of status only by revolution; that is to say, what must be brought low is not the Establishment but the structure on which it rests. This is not an endorsement of revolution though it is nonetheless a statement of fact. The Establishment will have its prominence restored and then say to the public, at allegedly gravitas-inducing length, "We were embarrassed, and were compelled to concede that we were embarrassed. Surely this is punishment enough; after all, it's only happened very rarely."
Incidentally, Ace, this rant is brilliant.
Posted by: grayishpanther at March 18, 2016 05:02 PM (ty9Ew)
477
"His vast narcissism makes him a closed fortress."
Yes, Brooks, do tell us more about what we knew about O before you idjits went all in for him you gibbering fool!
Yes, Brooks, do tell us more about what we knew about O before you idjits went all in for him you gibbering fool!
Posted by: Amy Shulkusky at March 18, 2016 05:04 PM (iTpVl)
478
Oh, Mr. Brooks, you insufferable twit.
Posted by: PJ at March 18, 2016 05:10 PM (cHuNI)
479
Gee Ace sounds like David Brooks when he tells us what will happen when Trump wins the nomination. I voted for Cruz, but Ace, Beck, and all the other crybabies have made me regret my vote.
I just hope that Cruz hasn't ruled himself out of the Vice President spot on the ticket.
I just hope that Cruz hasn't ruled himself out of the Vice President spot on the ticket.
Posted by: Dogbert at March 18, 2016 05:19 PM (qjku1)
480
Because something is happening here but you don't know what it is
Do you, Mr.Brooks?
Do you, Mr.Brooks?
Posted by: Avi at March 18, 2016 05:24 PM (fijdj)
481
Yup.
Keep telling us that Trump will get blown out in the general election.
Our ranks are swelling every time we hear that Donald is over.
Keep telling us that Trump will get blown out in the general election.
Our ranks are swelling every time we hear that Donald is over.
Posted by: seamrog at March 18, 2016 05:26 PM (ubR7I)
482
>>>Gee Ace sounds like David Brooks when he tells us what will happen when Trump wins the nomination. I voted for Cruz, but Ace, Beck, and all the other crybabies have made me regret my vote.
is your pussy okay?
Just saying, you sound like you have a cranky pussy.
is your pussy okay?
Just saying, you sound like you have a cranky pussy.
Posted by: ace at March 18, 2016 05:35 PM (dciA+)
483
Since the pants crease comment about Obama (c'mon that was just plain idiotic) I have never read, listened, or paid attention to david brooks. If I met him it would take all I had not to crotch punch this douchegab hipster.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at March 18, 2016 05:41 PM (AhyHb)
484
Brooks' Wiki says he was born in Canada and lived in "the middle-income Stuyvesant Town housing development in downtown New York City" and "moved to the Philadelphia Main Line, the affluent suburbs of Philadelphia". Apparently he's a guy who's pretty obsessed with social class, why does anyone have to mention the social class of his hometowns?
The thing is, he actually lived in North Wayne, which is definitely NOT part of the affluent upper class portion of the Mainline. He sounds like a middle or lower middle class kid who was overly impressed by the snobby, preppy, upper class Mainline kids and has tried to fashion himself after them. Hence his obsession with pants creases and presumed intellectualism.
The thing is, he actually lived in North Wayne, which is definitely NOT part of the affluent upper class portion of the Mainline. He sounds like a middle or lower middle class kid who was overly impressed by the snobby, preppy, upper class Mainline kids and has tried to fashion himself after them. Hence his obsession with pants creases and presumed intellectualism.
Posted by: fresca at March 18, 2016 05:42 PM (WVxCU)
485
"but the Clinton machine is very large and very dirty"
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Unlike Mr. Trump's hands.
Seriously, all of the anti-Trumpers would have been all in for GHB in 1980. Of course now, you were all die hard Reaganites.
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Unlike Mr. Trump's hands.
Seriously, all of the anti-Trumpers would have been all in for GHB in 1980. Of course now, you were all die hard Reaganites.
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at March 18, 2016 05:46 PM (AhyHb)
486
Donald Trump is an asshole and will lose in a monstrous landslide. He will be congratulating Ms Clinton within one minute of the polls closing in California.
What a fucking jerk. What a stupid ride his fellow traveler assholes are giving us.
What a fucking jerk. What a stupid ride his fellow traveler assholes are giving us.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at March 18, 2016 05:46 PM (U6f54)
487
Screaming at your television set is cathartic, but deep down inside you know that they really can't hear you.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 18, 2016 06:00 PM (O4NI/)
488
480 "You're very well read, it's well known."
Posted by: grayishpanther at March 18, 2016 06:10 PM (ty9Ew)
489
Well educated? In some respect, yeah. He read the classics, sprinkled in a little poli sci and econ101. Otherwise, he's an incredible dunce!
Talk about a punchable face!
Talk about a punchable face!
Posted by: Hadoop at March 18, 2016 06:39 PM (2X7pN)
490
I hate cranky pussy.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 18, 2016 06:47 PM (pUDQf)
491
Undermining the leadership class and any compromise in the Congress by going full RWNJ Tea Party is what gas led to Trump.
Ace will never admit that though. The lunatics have taken over the asylum and its Democrat Presidents as far as you care to look into the future.
Ace and his ilk like to think they're the solution. They're not. They're the virus that has killed the host and left the field completely open for the Dems.
It's fun to watch the meltdown. :-D
Ace will never admit that though. The lunatics have taken over the asylum and its Democrat Presidents as far as you care to look into the future.
Ace and his ilk like to think they're the solution. They're not. They're the virus that has killed the host and left the field completely open for the Dems.
It's fun to watch the meltdown. :-D
Posted by: 8 more years at March 18, 2016 06:51 PM (H5Cvx)
492
Why is everyone so sure Trump will lose?
Posted by: AnnaS at March 18, 2016 07:23 PM (xT+ue)
493
Ace is deranged if he thinks Trump will bring us electoral disaster. Trump hate will make you say some stupid shit.
Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2016 07:27 PM (b89zg)
494
Ace: "There's an old saying: If you take a shot at the king, you'd best not miss.
The current trajectory we're on -- taking a shot at the Establishment princel___s with Trump, then getting blown out in the general and thereby confirming the alleged wisdom of the Capital Class -- would be a case of assassin's aiming at the king, but then all of their guns exploding in their own faces."
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Spot on correct. What's more, there is only one way for the Trumpsters to come out on top. Not only must he be elected president, but he must succeed in making America Great Again. But that is extremely unlikely. Even if he gets elected because Hillary is so weak, we'll spend the next four years watching the media and pundits turn Trump into a national embarassment. He could weather this if he had good econimic sense, but his plan to force corporations to move jobs back to the USA with threats of massive tariffs will suceed only in tanking the economy. Now, we know who the Dems will run in 2020 - someone with Bernie Sanders message who isn't a 75 year old grump. In other ways, a Trump presidency is playing the highest stakes poker ever - either return America to greatness with tariffs or set the stage for a Hugo Chavez clone in 2020.
Sad to say, but I think our only hope is Hillary limping across the finish line. She'll be a failure with four more years of Obama on steroids. Then, in 2020, we need to learn from the mistakes of 2016.
The current trajectory we're on -- taking a shot at the Establishment princel___s with Trump, then getting blown out in the general and thereby confirming the alleged wisdom of the Capital Class -- would be a case of assassin's aiming at the king, but then all of their guns exploding in their own faces."
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Spot on correct. What's more, there is only one way for the Trumpsters to come out on top. Not only must he be elected president, but he must succeed in making America Great Again. But that is extremely unlikely. Even if he gets elected because Hillary is so weak, we'll spend the next four years watching the media and pundits turn Trump into a national embarassment. He could weather this if he had good econimic sense, but his plan to force corporations to move jobs back to the USA with threats of massive tariffs will suceed only in tanking the economy. Now, we know who the Dems will run in 2020 - someone with Bernie Sanders message who isn't a 75 year old grump. In other ways, a Trump presidency is playing the highest stakes poker ever - either return America to greatness with tariffs or set the stage for a Hugo Chavez clone in 2020.
Sad to say, but I think our only hope is Hillary limping across the finish line. She'll be a failure with four more years of Obama on steroids. Then, in 2020, we need to learn from the mistakes of 2016.
Posted by: Niveaxe at March 18, 2016 07:43 PM (M/G2t)
495
61 I am beginning to understand the French revolution.
Here is the part I really like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHVo0hJhnK4
Imagine Brooks!
Here is the part I really like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHVo0hJhnK4
Imagine Brooks!
Posted by: G6loq at March 18, 2016 07:55 PM (zj+JZ)
496
He doesn't really believe any of the tripe he wrote. He just wants to be in with the cool crowd and since they are all agreeing on the causes of the Trump phenomenon he wrote an obligatory piece saying I guess we should have listened to the great unwashed. Now that is out of his system he can get back to going to parties with his kind.
Posted by: I don't care anymore at March 18, 2016 08:18 PM (x8Wor)
497
492 Why is everyone so sure Trump will lose?
Posted by: AnnaS at March 18, 2016 07:23 PM (xT+ue)
I'm not. I've been saying since the infamous first question of the first debate, that he could win. However, the people who get paid to "splain it to the masses" are too busy seeing the trees instead of the forest.
Posted by: AnnaS at March 18, 2016 07:23 PM (xT+ue)
I'm not. I've been saying since the infamous first question of the first debate, that he could win. However, the people who get paid to "splain it to the masses" are too busy seeing the trees instead of the forest.
Posted by: I don't care anymore at March 18, 2016 08:22 PM (x8Wor)
498
The rumors of Trumps early demise were greatly exaggerated. So too are the current ones. But Trump is an unstable adolescent! Yoo-Hoo! so is 60% of our electorate. Right now, I just want to win; I'll indulge in my taste for constitutional purity later. We have a long road ahead to raise a generation that can grasp the concept of life without an overweening nanny-government. Like him or not, Trump is showing that he can play the organs of popular culture. That's what's required right now, and it's enough for me--I just want to win one in this outrageously rigged contest.
Posted by: Yankee_Doodler at March 18, 2016 09:39 PM (XmkaW)
499
The Brits have a derogatory word that perfectly describes Brooks: twat.
Posted by: Shanks for the memory at March 18, 2016 09:55 PM (9HNfr)
500
>
Why do you say "us", Ace? You're not "us", you're "them".
Why do you say "us", Ace? You're not "us", you're "them".
Posted by: Mike at March 18, 2016 11:51 PM (Wmhof)
501
David Brooks is useless, we've known this since sometime in early 2010, and he was contemptible before then.
What's to be done with Glenn Reynolds and Rush Limbaugh and the lesser radio shouters like Hannity and Ingraham? Because as worthless and contemptible as David Brooks is, Trump may be his fault but it isn't his responsibility. That's in the hands of Reynolds and Limbaugh and the rest - and they are failing, comprehensively and contemptibly. Reynolds and Limbaugh, while pretending to be Cruz supporters in the abstract, have been getting their jollies so vilely and reprehensibly in playing the anti-anti-Trump game that they are effectively boosters for the orange-tanned Lex Luthor. Where will be the reckoning for *that*?
What's to be done with Glenn Reynolds and Rush Limbaugh and the lesser radio shouters like Hannity and Ingraham? Because as worthless and contemptible as David Brooks is, Trump may be his fault but it isn't his responsibility. That's in the hands of Reynolds and Limbaugh and the rest - and they are failing, comprehensively and contemptibly. Reynolds and Limbaugh, while pretending to be Cruz supporters in the abstract, have been getting their jollies so vilely and reprehensibly in playing the anti-anti-Trump game that they are effectively boosters for the orange-tanned Lex Luthor. Where will be the reckoning for *that*?
Posted by: Mitch H. at March 19, 2016 01:21 AM (JomQ/)
502
No elites ruled America or built her. America is a yeoman nation, mostly successful because of its middle and working classes.....always.
Crack a history book, Brooks, you idiot.
No elites ruled America or built her. America is a yeoman nation, mostly successful because of its middle and working classes.....always.
Crack a history book, Brooks, you idiot.
Posted by: Cruz Perry at March 19, 2016 08:06 AM (SJ184)
503
I 'spect the choice will come down to a crook or crooked-thug in the white house. Anyone voting for a crooked-thug over a just plain crook is beyond help.
Remember most common folks are pretty safe from a crook unless they stick their head(and property) up too high.
OTOH a crooked-thug may have just had a bad day and is looking to kick the ass of the next person - any person - who crosses her path.
Remember most common folks are pretty safe from a crook unless they stick their head(and property) up too high.
OTOH a crooked-thug may have just had a bad day and is looking to kick the ass of the next person - any person - who crosses her path.
Posted by: emdfl at March 19, 2016 08:21 AM (V40IZ)
504
> "Well, some respect is in order. Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed."
With respect like that, who needs derision?
With respect like that, who needs derision?
Posted by: Reformed Trombonist at March 19, 2016 08:59 AM (+2qWL)
505
March 1980 - Carter vs. Reagan
Gallup: Carter +23%
ABC Harris/CBS +18%
CBS/New York Times +19%
The only Republican beating Carter in March 1980 according to the polls was Gerald Ford. The GOPe at the time said Reagan could not win and were even scheming for ways to get Ford into the race or at the convention.
You win elections by first securing a fanatically loyal base of voters (20-30% of the country). Once you have a strong base you can start to attack. The problem is that by securing that strong base of supporters you have to tick off a lot of people, including your own party. Most of the time those ticked off people come back around, except for the idiots who voted for Anderson in 1980 (6-7%).
Hillary does not have a strong base of loyal supporters. Bernie does, but seems not to be interested in attacking Hillary. If he did he would have been the nominee.
Obama did in 2008 and it carried over into 2012. Romney on the other hand did not have a loyal following. Most of Trump's GOP opponents did not either which is why they are mostly gone now. Only Cruz has a loyal base of supporters, but once again in order to secure that base he ticked a lot of people off.
If it is Cruz vs. Hillary OR Trump vs. Hillary the same dynamics will apply irrespective of what the polls say now. Hillary will fail to get her voters out based on her own popularity, but will try to get her voters out for her based on dislike for her opponent (Trump or Cruz). That might work, but has it worked in our life time? It did not work against: Reagan (1980, 1984) Clinton (1996), Bush (2004), Obama (2008 & 2012).
In the end it is better to have a significant loyal base of supporters willing to crawl over glass to vote for you, even if it angers a lot of people. You may even get high negatives in polls from a majority of people in the country due to your style, but it is better than having no base of supporters who love you.
Will we test this hypothesis in 2016...I think I am right based recent history, unless you plan to drag out 1964, but that was a less partisan world. I argue that post WWII period until the late 1960s was a another era of "good feelings", not normal to American politics.
Gallup: Carter +23%
ABC Harris/CBS +18%
CBS/New York Times +19%
The only Republican beating Carter in March 1980 according to the polls was Gerald Ford. The GOPe at the time said Reagan could not win and were even scheming for ways to get Ford into the race or at the convention.
You win elections by first securing a fanatically loyal base of voters (20-30% of the country). Once you have a strong base you can start to attack. The problem is that by securing that strong base of supporters you have to tick off a lot of people, including your own party. Most of the time those ticked off people come back around, except for the idiots who voted for Anderson in 1980 (6-7%).
Hillary does not have a strong base of loyal supporters. Bernie does, but seems not to be interested in attacking Hillary. If he did he would have been the nominee.
Obama did in 2008 and it carried over into 2012. Romney on the other hand did not have a loyal following. Most of Trump's GOP opponents did not either which is why they are mostly gone now. Only Cruz has a loyal base of supporters, but once again in order to secure that base he ticked a lot of people off.
If it is Cruz vs. Hillary OR Trump vs. Hillary the same dynamics will apply irrespective of what the polls say now. Hillary will fail to get her voters out based on her own popularity, but will try to get her voters out for her based on dislike for her opponent (Trump or Cruz). That might work, but has it worked in our life time? It did not work against: Reagan (1980, 1984) Clinton (1996), Bush (2004), Obama (2008 & 2012).
In the end it is better to have a significant loyal base of supporters willing to crawl over glass to vote for you, even if it angers a lot of people. You may even get high negatives in polls from a majority of people in the country due to your style, but it is better than having no base of supporters who love you.
Will we test this hypothesis in 2016...I think I am right based recent history, unless you plan to drag out 1964, but that was a less partisan world. I argue that post WWII period until the late 1960s was a another era of "good feelings", not normal to American politics.
Posted by: William Eaton at March 19, 2016 09:40 AM (q52Ma)
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Don't take this as any kind of endorsement of Trump from me -- Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster
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I am not saying it is not possible. Fact it maybe a 60% chance.
But I have to say, for the majority that make that prediction were also making the prediction that Trump would not make it past the early voting. They have been proven wrong. So why should I believe their general election prediction?
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I am not saying it is not possible. Fact it maybe a 60% chance.
But I have to say, for the majority that make that prediction were also making the prediction that Trump would not make it past the early voting. They have been proven wrong. So why should I believe their general election prediction?
Posted by: JohnMc at March 19, 2016 12:10 PM (PjrlO)
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The libs had it partly correct. What we need is not Occupy Wall Street, but instead we need Occupy DC. The 99% against the 1% in the Capitol Class.
Posted by: Gary P at March 19, 2016 12:15 PM (auYgh)
508
505,
People are more receptive to be FOR something/someone than AGAINST same. Which jives with your observation. Reagan pushed a better future, Carter pushed the status quo and ratchet down our expectations. HRC is making the same mistake.
People are more receptive to be FOR something/someone than AGAINST same. Which jives with your observation. Reagan pushed a better future, Carter pushed the status quo and ratchet down our expectations. HRC is making the same mistake.
Posted by: JohnMc at March 19, 2016 12:15 PM (PjrlO)
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"Maybe it's time to bring some real accountability to the Capital Class."
Bring back the guillotine?
Bring back the guillotine?
Posted by: TBlakely at March 19, 2016 01:24 PM (F+hvk)
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"Don't take this as any kind of endorsement of Trump from me -- Trump will lead us to an electoral disaster the very dimensions of which will perversely serve as a validation of the Establishment who actually caused the disaster."
Ace, would you just stop it with the intellectual laziness of constantly predicting that Trump will be an electoral disaster? It ain't gonna happen. Gen. Election polls 8 months in advance don't mean squat. Trump has an election to win and he will win no matter the wringing of hands of guys like you; guys that don't even write blogs under their real names, like your buddy Allahpundit. You know, this is the U.S.; last I looked you could write and say things out in the open without anything to worry about.
Ace, would you just stop it with the intellectual laziness of constantly predicting that Trump will be an electoral disaster? It ain't gonna happen. Gen. Election polls 8 months in advance don't mean squat. Trump has an election to win and he will win no matter the wringing of hands of guys like you; guys that don't even write blogs under their real names, like your buddy Allahpundit. You know, this is the U.S.; last I looked you could write and say things out in the open without anything to worry about.
Posted by: Kyle at March 19, 2016 01:26 PM (ImEa5)
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"you can't really be fired from your job. You can only be moved from position to position. They can't fire you, because there's literally no one else in America capable of rising up to take their place (in their belief, at least)."
Sounds like a certain Oscar-winning motion picture.
Sounds like a certain Oscar-winning motion picture.
Posted by: Desiderius at March 19, 2016 03:41 PM (sqYTB)
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Well, I thought I'd give the ace another try after he evolved to what he really is, a dumbass. Alas, he is still a dumbass closet dim with the issue interpertive skills of a 5 year old. Mo ron.
build the wallS
build the wallS
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