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Daylight Savings Time, Threat or Menace?
Today is the worst day of the year: The day you give up an hour of sleep. The long-delayed hangover from the Time Party you had last fall.
I think Fox just said 13 states were debating getting rid of it, though people aren't agreed on whether they should switch over permanently to standard time, or to savings time. This blog is all about getting rid of this. I object to this, for several reasons. You have probably heard it's simply wrong that it saves energy. You probably also know that, far from reducing car accidents, it causes more of then, as people are shaken too early from bed and get into collisions, still half-groggy. But consider this on a sort of paranoid, social-control order: What right does any group of people have to tell us to change our clocks? Why? Because they theorize that we'll have "more hours of play" with a later-setting sun? That we'll spend more time and money at departmentment stores with a later-setting sun? 1, those things aren't true, 2, those things aren't necessarily good, and 3, what right do you have to enlist me in this weird social-conditioning experiment to maximize my available hours as a consumer? I could also point out that religious scholars and philosophers have long prized the darkness as being inherently more contemplative and suitable for thinking about God and existence. Who's to say that early risers mind a bit of contemplative darkness before they set out about their daily rounds?* It's fucking weird that a coterie of people (no doubt smitten with the ideas of "Scientific Fascism and Socialism" so in vogue in Europe) just decided that they were going to send out the signal in the hive that, twice a year, the worker bees were to change their customary hour of rising by an hour.It's weird that people went along with this, especially way back when, when people were more cantankerous about the goblin-fingers of socialist control sticking themselves into every private space of our lives. By now, we've become accustomed to this. But back then? Anyway, it's time to correct a great historical and ideological error. If individual businesses would like to change the hours they're open in the summer, fine, let them do so. But leave the rest of us the fuck alone. We can decide what time it is and when we should be awake and alert, thank you very much. * Obviously, I have no idea what early risers would prefer.
Update to Last Post: I don't want this to get lost, as I added this as a late update to the last post, and I doubt anyone has seen it. But Carl Cameron says that Cruz is "taking a different tack" from Rubio and Kasich, noting that the BLM and OWS protesters coming to Trump rallies are coming there looking for a fight, seeking (and then finding) violent confrontation. Commenters have also pointed out that he repeatedly defends Trump's right to hold a rally free of intimidation and riots. So a bit of additional information to factor in. Good Quote: Tyler Mason wrote this. It sounds like it's someone else's quote (and I mean that in a good way), but Google says this is the first time it's been said:
Have you ever taken an afternoon nap and awoke to twilight? Not knowing if dusk or dawn? This is daylight savings in a nutshell, only later, or earlier!
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:23 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Buck Ofama at March 12, 2016 06:23 PM (GLFWg)
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at March 12, 2016 06:23 PM (zCXWj)
Posted by: Todd at March 12, 2016 06:24 PM (I65l0)
.....................................
I'm thinking.......................................
Still thinking. ...............................
OK I'll get them
(Crossing fingers)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:25 PM (fizMZ)
with the ideas of "Scientific Fascism and Socialism" so in vogue in
Europe) just decided that they were going to send out the signal in the
hive that, twice a year, the worker bees were to change their customary
hour of rising by an hour.<<<
Time Lords are the enemy!
Exterminate!!!
Exterminate!!!
Posted by: The Daleks at March 12, 2016 06:25 PM (H9MG5)
Can't they just ratchet the dates back to where they were?
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at March 12, 2016 06:26 PM (zCXWj)
okay that is weird
i guess i'm in favor of the permanent DST then.
I just don't want to change clocks like an idiot twice a year.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:27 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: The Ad Council at March 12, 2016 06:27 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:27 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Tyler Mason at March 12, 2016 06:28 PM (t/2s7)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2016 06:28 PM (sl+zA)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 12, 2016 06:28 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 06:28 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: The Ad Council at March 12, 2016 06:29 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2016 06:29 PM (sl+zA)
Well now we know where Jimmy Two-Times ended up after turning stoolie for the Feds.
Posted by: Witness Protection Program ball cap at March 12, 2016 06:30 PM (u4QIW)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 12, 2016 06:30 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 06:31 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Andy Reid at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (fizMZ)
3 UK never went to DST did they? It was weird in the summer, starting to get light at 4 am.
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at March 12, 2016 06:23 PM (zCXWj)
The U.K. has DST. They are not synced to to change over at the same date as the US though.
Posted by: Buzzion at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (zt+N6)
There is one reason given these days: Elementary students are normally the group of students delivered to a school via a school bus. DST allows for all of their pickup and drop-offs to be in daylight.
High schoolers and middle schoolers are on their own.
It's for the elementary school students.
Well, actually for the K-3rd graders, since accident statistics (15 per year killed adjacent to a school bus nationwide; normally by their assigned bus) skew young.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (BO/km)
DST, income taxes, minimum wage laws, wage and price controls (how we arrived at socialized medicine), restrictions on who could marry whom, the Draft, and now Obamacare (where "they" get to decide who gets what treatment, when, and at what cost) signals to me that the good ole USA freedom and liberty act is rapidly becoming a memory.
Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (8QGte)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (39g3+)
This has probably be linked to global warming
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2016 06:32 PM (sl+zA)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 06:33 PM (bceFx)
Elementary students are normally the second group of students delivered to a school via a school bus.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 06:33 PM (u82oZ)
...oh who am I kidding, no regulation will ever again go away, everybody who cared has given up already.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 06:33 PM (D0J8L)
Also, Ben Franklin offered the idea up as a joke but had such a dry wit that people took him seriously. He's still laughing.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 06:33 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2016 06:34 PM (cRphR)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 12, 2016 06:34 PM (HtsKA)
It should also be implemented on Friday at 4 PM and fallen back on Mondays at 8 AM.
That will fix the energy crisis.
Posted by: jwb7605 at March 12, 2016 06:34 PM (DofIg)
Posted by: davidt at March 12, 2016 06:34 PM (8aOqE)
DST is not a big factor in my life as I usually have flexible work hours but it does suck when I have to make a morning meeting right after the spring forward.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 12, 2016 06:34 PM (tq5N4)
I thought Ben's laughter had more to do with his "if you can keep it" comment.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2016 06:35 PM (sl+zA)
Alas, it was unsuccessful.
Posted by: Lauren at March 12, 2016 06:35 PM (yHNe/)
Never understood the concept, you just roll with the days getting longer or shorter with the seasons.
No different than also adapting to the weather.
Posted by: McStuffins at March 12, 2016 06:35 PM (A3kYV)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 06:35 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Jen at March 12, 2016 06:35 PM (msAGT)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (39g3+)
???
How come Vets and the Military are always getting the wrong end of the stick now a days?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (cRphR)
i don't think he really offered up the idea. I think he just observed that people in Paris, with its streetlights, stayed up later than Americans, and spent more time in saloons and shops.
i'm not sure he really proposed this fakakte idea.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Buck Ofama at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (GLFWg)
We don't care which "time" we end up with-- just stop making us switch back and forth!
Posted by: JQ Flyover at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (044Fx)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 06:37 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at March 12, 2016 06:37 PM (rwI+c)
Every month we set the clock back two hours with a few extra minutes thrown in here and there so we go a full 24 in a year. That would be so freaking GREAT!
It would sync well with my own general insomnia/laziness. We could plan the night schedules to be mostly around winter because, screw the winter and the day time around summer.
Posted by: bananaDream at March 12, 2016 06:37 PM (Ag8Mw)
It really is a useless exercise that doesn't save anyone anything.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 06:38 PM (bceFx)
3 UK never went to DST did they? It was weird in the summer, starting to get light at 4 am.
Posted by: Jeanne del norte at March 12, 2016 06:23 PM (zCXWj)
During WWII England went to triple daylight savings.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 06:39 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2016 06:39 PM (A/3fN)
Posted by: Lincoln Chaffee at March 12, 2016 06:39 PM (sl+zA)
Every month we set the clock back two hours with a few extra minutes thrown in here and there so we go a full 24 in a year. That would be so freaking GREAT!
that's funny. can that work?
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:39 PM (dciA+)
By now, we've become accustomed to this. But back then?
"Back then" people were a little more trusting of government in some ways, I think. As the government grows the resistance and distrust grows also.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 06:39 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:36 PM (dciA+)
Neither am I. I'm just going off of "National Treasure"
BTW, congratulations. That's the first time I've ever seen a transliteration of fakakte. Another of those great Yiddish words.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 06:39 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:40 PM (dciA+)
Make it a darwinian selection policy to snare the hard-to-rouse night owl elementary students. After all, we have this technology called reflective edgings on backpacks and even archaic things like flashlights.
Works for me.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 06:40 PM (u82oZ)
I get up very early to read, pray, think meditate and I can do that when it's dark out. In fact, I might even find pre-dawn conditions preferable for those things that daylight.
But it is not a significant issue.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 12, 2016 06:40 PM (hJrjt)
Guam is way ahead of us. They already do that.
Posted by: Rep. Hank Johnson at March 12, 2016 06:40 PM (sl+zA)
Even more ridiculous is that each country on DST makes an independent decision on when they change. When I was stationed in Egypt many years ago, they refused to change their clocks at the same time as the Israelis, because Joooos. Which made timekeeping interesting for us, because on a daily basis we had to keep track of Israeli time, Egyptian time, Zulu time for us on the base, Rome time for the peacekeepers home office and Alaskan time for our unit's home base.
For a Moron like me, that confused and frightened me.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 12, 2016 06:40 PM (o98Jz)
"It's sure to be twelve," Shukhov announced. "The sun's over the top already."
"If it is," the captain retorted, "it's one o'clock, not twelve."
"How do you make that out?" Shukhov asked in surprise. "The old folk say the sun is highest at dinnertime."
"Maybe it was in their day!" the captain snapped back. "Since then it's been decreed that the sun is highest at one o'clock."
"Who decreed that?"
"The Soviet government."
The captain took off with the handbarrow, but Shukhov wasn't going to argue anyway. As if the sun would obey their decrees!"
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 06:40 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:40 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 12, 2016 06:41 PM (vP09u)
I grew up on a dairy farm in Indiana, when I moved to Missouri as a teenager, I thought that they we're screwing with me.
Posted by: Zhytamyr at March 12, 2016 06:42 PM (91nzM)
DST is an early example of arbitrary redefinition of something real because why the fuck not, we're the government.
*yes, yes, pedants will point out that noon is not exactly, precisely at noon except right down the middle of the time zone and even then only a few times a year due to the earth's orbit not being a perfect circle. Nothing is perfect.
Posted by: Locarno at March 12, 2016 06:42 PM (ivaye)
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 06:42 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 12, 2016 06:42 PM (vP09u)
Posted by: derit at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (OC+TJ)
Posted by: buzzion at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (zt+N6)
I live in Arizona and we don't have DST at all.
Used to be that way here in Indiana as well but they changed in 2006. They wanted to be like everybody else. It was supposed to better for business. Just like special rights for LGBT are supposed to be better for business.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (FkBIv)
What central authority made DST a thing? The government? The farmer's almanac? The weather service? Who was it?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (ubByS)
I've got a lot of respect for that guy but this makes me wish he'd gotten a few more jolts from the kite.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (XItbt)
who cares if the sun lines up directly overhead at noon? The only people who care about this will also be the people most able to know it happens at 1 instead of 12.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (sl+zA)
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 06:44 PM (rwI+c)
What central authority made DST a thing? The government? The farmer's almanac? The weather service? Who was it?
the government I think, in ww1
the government always claims a lot of powers during wartime
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:44 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: CaliGirl at March 12, 2016 06:45 PM (egOGm)
Don't make me come over there, ghost boy
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 06:45 PM (39g3+)
the government always claims a lot of powers during wartime
Posted by: ace
i think it was to conserve kerosene, more dayligh,t less streetlamp kerosene or something
Posted by: McStuffins at March 12, 2016 06:46 PM (A3kYV)
Posted by: Prof. Fido, Ph. D. at March 12, 2016 06:46 PM (cbsx0)
Posted by: derit at March 12, 2016 06:46 PM (OC+TJ)
The time that the sun is directly overhead is 12:30, or "High Noon." 12 o'clock remains noon. Just not High Noon.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:46 PM (dciA+)
The property tax is quite possibly the most liberty corroding imposition ever devised by government.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 12, 2016 06:46 PM (WVvzl)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 06:46 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 06:47 PM (MQEz6)
i think it was to conserve kerosene, more dayligh,t less streetlamp kerosene or something
the real reason was the national consortium of department stores which had long been angling for the change.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 06:47 PM (dciA+)
Dog, I love ya like a brother (to the totally non-gay extent allowed among the Horde), but say that again and I will cut you. Or send AtC closeup pics of spiders from your email account. Maybe even both.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at March 12, 2016 06:47 PM (D0J8L)
Posted by: buzzion at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM
Same here.
I wonder if, maybe, Trump is in favor of DST and Cruz opposes it?
Posted by: MrScribbler at March 12, 2016 06:47 PM (WIZNc)
Wait till they figure out what to call the existence tax.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 06:48 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2016 06:48 PM (EzgxV)
Don't our phone bills still have a tax to pay for the Spanish American War?
And another thing...
grumble, grumble...
Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2016 06:48 PM (8QGte)
Like Joseph, Congress decided to raise its collective arms and stop the sun in its tracks.
That's why.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 06:49 PM (q2o38)
Yeah I don't really own my house. I rent it from the government.
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 06:49 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 06:49 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 06:49 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 06:48 PM (pUDQf)
Obamacare
Posted by: davidt at March 12, 2016 06:49 PM (8aOqE)
I believe so, and one for building telegraph lines.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 06:49 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: buzzion at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (zt+N6)
Neither can I, but I think it may have to do with people having their body clocks messed up, for weeks afterwards, it seems.
I can sleep at any time so I don't even really get jet lag.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at March 12, 2016 06:50 PM (Lk67m)
Posted by: DST protester at March 12, 2016 06:50 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Socratease at March 12, 2016 06:50 PM (2GbWn)
Posted by: spypeach at March 12, 2016 06:50 PM (nyYhO)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 12, 2016 06:50 PM (WTSFk)
I have that problem when I call friends in Israel. The normal time difference is 7 hours but around the clock changes it varies depending on who changes on which date. it's a total pain.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 06:51 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 06:51 PM (pUDQf)
Brief history of DST from Wikipedia:
New Zealander George Hudson proposed the modern idea of daylight saving in 1895. Germany and Austria-Hungary organized the first nationwide implementation, starting on 30 April 1916.
...
Starting on 30 April 1916, Germany and its World War I ally Austria-Hungary were the first to use DST as a way to conserve coal during wartime. Britain, most of its allies, and many European neutrals soon followed suit. Russia and a few other countries waited until the next year and the United States adopted it in 1918.
So add DST to the long list of crap Woodrow Wilson saddled us with.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 06:51 PM (RcpcZ)
And another thing...
grumble, grumble...
Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2016 06:48 PM (8QGte)
That was resolved, and in fact the phone companies actually made a refund if you could show proof that you had paid it.
I, of course, was keeping all my paid bills and got a discount.
*Kindltot preens*
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 06:51 PM (q2o38)
Don't our phone bills still have a tax to pay for the Spanish American War?
Not since 2006
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2006-05-25-phone-tax_x.htm
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 06:52 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Tyler Mason at March 12, 2016 06:52 PM (t/2s7)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 06:52 PM (2x3L+)
I've got a lot of respect for that guy but this makes me wish he'd gotten a few more jolts from the kite.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 06:43 PM (XItbt)<<<
Everybody laughed me out of the room when I suggested the turkey for the national bird. I never thought they'd buy into this.
Suckers.
Posted by: zombie Ben Franklin at March 12, 2016 06:53 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 12, 2016 06:53 PM (08Znv)
Posted by: Beth M at March 12, 2016 06:54 PM (kiy9d)
did you know franklin pierce invented daylight savings time?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp
That wisecracking doctor on MASH?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 06:54 PM (FkBIv)
Like on a random Monday it goes from 1pm to 3pm.
I could get behind that.
But no, I have to lose an hour of my weekend. FFS.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 12, 2016 06:54 PM (AkOaV)
So we set the clocks back two hours each month. When?? The first Monday of each month that's when!!!
Oh it's Monday and I have to get up for work? Well SUCK IT reality it's "sleep in two more hours day"!!! It would be like a monthly holiday. You all could name it after me.
Posted by: bananaDream at March 12, 2016 06:54 PM (Ag8Mw)
******
Fair point, but I'm still more enraged by the 16th Amendment.
I can at least see the (admittedly flawed) logic of apportioning my share of taxes relative to the property I own. If I've got 100 acres and you have an apartment, it's going to cost more spray my property with mosquito killer to prevent West Nile spreading than it does yours.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 06:54 PM (XItbt)
do away with daylight savings time and call it Texas Time and it would
have been awesome.
Alas, it was unsuccessful.
Posted by: Lauren
I was thinking about a silly comment about Texas seceding over DST, and creating their own time zone, but there you go. Texas can't shake DST either.
So, we are all doomed to the tyranny of the the seasonal time changes. Not even Texas can stop it.
I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A FREE MAN!!
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at March 12, 2016 06:56 PM (+1T7c)
So, we're saving coal by still doing this? I thought Obama already fixed the coal problem.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 06:56 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 12, 2016 06:56 PM (cCxiu)
Ben Franklin wrote a essay jokingly suggesting Parisians should get up earlier to enjoy the morning daylight
Canada first used it in 1908
Germany the England and France used it during WWI but dropped it afterwards
Wilson signed the US Law in 1918 but was dropped soon after.
It came back during WWII then was spotty until the oil embargo in 1973 galvanized it into permanent use.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 06:57 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2016 06:57 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2016 06:57 PM (cRphR)
...Obamacare...
Global warming, climate deniers.
Notice they went after CO2 and not methane.
You breath out CO2 but you only fart methane.
People breath more than they fart.
Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 06:57 PM (CRXed)
Because that's what 'midday/noon' *means*? Conceptually the clock was tied to actual concrete physical events, and the labels weren't doled out randomly.
Posted by: Locarno at March 12, 2016 06:58 PM (ivaye)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 06:56 PM (pUDQf)
I don't even see how it ever saved coal.
Coal was burned for heat.
It's still cold when its cold.
Changing the clocks doesn't change that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 12, 2016 06:58 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThunderB at March 12, 2016 06:58 PM (zOTsN)
*****
I don't know about that one but the tolls on many bridges were supposed to be temporary (till the bond was paid off) and only an emergency measure to fund necessary infrastructure while the world wars were going on.
Then the government decided it liked that sweet, sweet cash.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 06:58 PM (XItbt)
People breath more than they fart.
You obviously haven't met Hillary Clinton. Hooo boy
Posted by: Huma at March 12, 2016 06:59 PM (39g3+)
as a morning person that checks this blog daily at work, I had a good laugh at this one
Posted by: brak at March 12, 2016 06:59 PM (AgEp6)
Posted by: Eddie Murphy at March 12, 2016 06:59 PM (XItbt)
But people only are awake when the alarm goes off to light up the coal furnace.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 12, 2016 07:00 PM (39g3+)
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/10/28/nyregion/amtrak-halts-trains-to-let-clock-catch-up.html
AMTRAK HALTS TRAINS TO LET CLOCK CATCH UP
As Amtrak's R. Clifford Black put it, ''After Trenton - next stop, Twilight Zone.''
At Metro Park, N.J., a station 23 miles southwest of New York City, the train stopped in its tracks for nearly an hour to allow the clock to catch up to the printed schedule.
The engineer, Robert Ulis, sat in his cab reading the Book of Revelations, and the four conductors patiently tried to explain the confusing one-night-a-year schedule change to mutinous passengers who had not realized upon boarding that they would have to relive the hour between 1 and 2 all over again in a dark, shut-down station in suburban New Jersey.
Amtrak did this for years - just stopped the trains on the tracks to wait for the clocks to catch up. Yep. The government ... is there nothing they can't fuck up beyond all imagination?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 07:00 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at March 12, 2016 07:00 PM (WTSFk)
I don't mind losing the hour this weekend because it doesn't get dark until nearly 10 PM during the summer.
More time for fishing, golfing, puttering in the yard and whatever.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at March 12, 2016 07:00 PM (pldrX)
I can at least see the (admittedly flawed) logic of apportioning my share of taxes relative to the property I own.
I liked it better when they taxed you by the number of rooms in your house. No walk in closets for the Missus, though. But it sure beat being taxed according to the number of panes of glass in your windows.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 07:00 PM (RcpcZ)
You can mess with me all you want. No worries, mate.
Please do not, under any circumstances, get AtC upset with me. I am not ready to assume a new identity and flee to Elephant Island to escape her wrath.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 12, 2016 07:01 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: brak at March 12, 2016 07:01 PM (AgEp6)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:02 PM (fizMZ)
Coal was burned for heat.
It's still cold when its cold.
Changing the clocks doesn't change that.
I'm only speculating but, back in 1918, so called "City Gas" was make from coal. If people used their gaslamps less, they would use less coal. Same with electricity today.
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 07:02 PM (rwI+c)
******
I always thought that they got those numerically backward. The second guarantees the first.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:02 PM (XItbt)
Are we still paying the beer tax for the Civil War?
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 07:03 PM (bZ7mE)
The property tax is quite possibly the most liberty corroding imposition ever devised by government.
Posted by: Kreplach at March 12, 2016 06:46 PM (WVvzl)
Agreed. I cannot fathom how a free people ever tolerated its creation, much less continues to abide it.
Posted by: Sambo at March 12, 2016 07:03 PM (CwNIZ)
Posted by: Skip
Ah. Big Oil, Big Government and Big Time conspire to reduce us all to time serfs, constantly changing our clocks.
I bet if you dig deep enough, Goldman Sachs is involved, too.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at March 12, 2016 07:04 PM (+1T7c)
My vote is for August. August sucks.
Posted by: Locarno at March 12, 2016 07:04 PM (ivaye)
I believe we still have a tax on phones somewhere out there to pay for the Spanish-American War (is that rayciss?) from back in 1898.
Our income tax system of withholding began so FDR could finance the war he got us into and it has frankensteined ever since.
Once an edict is in place, our masters never rescind it. Unless it is a Republican edict. Then it "sunsets". Get it?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2016 07:04 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 12, 2016 07:04 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: ScottJ at March 12, 2016 07:05 PM (tUGB0)
There was no oil embargo. A Saudi oil minister said on meet-the-press "We talked about it but couldn't get it organized."
Gas lines were gone the next day (gas stations mostly closed on Sunday back then). Poof.
If I hadn't been alive and heard it I would not know.
That meet-the-press is never mentioned.
The people in the know call it "oil crisis."
Rubes call it "oil embargo."
Artistry in lying.
Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 07:05 PM (CRXed)
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 07:05 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2016 07:05 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: navybrat at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (8QGte)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (fizMZ)
I don't even see how it ever saved coal.
Ask Vic sometime. He'll tell you how hard it was to light a coal lantern.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (RcpcZ)
I've never seen so many bearded, man bun hipsters in one place before. Tattoos everywhere. Ear gauges.
All the girls are black or blue haired, with ironic tattoos and nose percings.
When did these people hijack our poor joe?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (pUDQf)
So I guess there were not even and odd days
And those lines were for the food at gas stations right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (cRphR)
Gas lines were gone the next day (gas stations mostly closed on Sunday back then). Poof.
WTH? Did I just imagine even/odd days?
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (rwI+c)
"City Gas" was make from coal. If people used their gaslamps less, they
would use less coal. Same with electricity today.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
An infinitesimal dribble in regards to how much is used to keep the grid up and at the proper transmission frequency.
It's like the myth of "free electricity" late at night for recharging cars.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....tortured American at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (+1T7c)
I've never seen so many bearded, man bun hipsters in one place before. Tattoos everywhere. Ear gauges.
All the girls are black or blue haired, with ironic tattoos and nose percings.
When did these people hijack our poor joe?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (pUDQf)
Damn Starbucks.
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (rwI+c)
I think you and I are showing our age ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2016 07:08 PM (cRphR)
It's still cold when its cold.
Changing the clocks doesn't change that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at March 12, 2016 06:58 PM (AkOaV)
That's why we need Summer Savings Time.....DST was just a half measure. People love summer, hate winter, right? Start summer early, say mid february each year, and end it late, say mid October. Think of all the coal we'll save.
Posted by: Sticky Wicket at March 12, 2016 07:08 PM (0IhFx)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 12, 2016 07:08 PM (kTF2Z)
Do you idjits even *get* how dispiriting this is? To only see the sun through the windows at work?!?!
When I'm in charge, the sun is going to go down at 9:30 PM every night, spring, summer, fall and winter. Who give a shit what time the sun comes up?
Posted by: sanssoucy at March 12, 2016 07:08 PM (Zz2Yn)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (fizMZ)
Only one?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2016 07:08 PM (cRphR)
A blessed Passiontide and Easter to all celebrating, prayers for peace for all.
Ya'll be sweet, see you on the 28th.
Posted by: Sal at March 12, 2016 07:08 PM (MRX6w)
Rubes call it "oil embargo."
Artistry in lying.
Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 07:05 PM (CRXed)
Meh. The "embargo" is an accepted label not an accurate description. Oil flow was severely restricted and prices skyrocketed. Call it what you want but "embargo" is perfectly acceptable since that's what the lowlife OPEC scum called it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 07:09 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:09 PM (fizMZ)
My vote is for August. August sucks.
...
you can't. within six time changes, you're waking up at what used to be midnight and going to bed at what used to be six or seven pm.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:09 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Gene Kelly at March 12, 2016 07:09 PM (xZc4z)
Who's going to tell the slugs? Nice smart old lady at local nursery told me to put pan of beer out at noon "God's Time" to kill them.
Posted by: olddog in mo at March 12, 2016 07:10 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: BignJames at March 12, 2016 07:10 PM (HtUkt)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 12, 2016 07:10 PM (OEEGH)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:11 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 07:00 PM (RcpcZ)
Really? For personal property, it goes by square footage here. Not that that means a lot, since they hike up the rates per square foot according to "market value" (aka: you live in the rich, white neighborhood! Pay up cracka!").
Personal pet peeve of mine is school taxes. I've got now kids but I'm paying through the ass for the 5 kids stuffed into the one bedroom apartment while mama collects her check from the state, 5x increase in food stamps, and 5x "tax credits" from the fed for each one of her rug rats.
If we're going to have entitlements, I propose that tax apportionment increase by the number of kids you have instead of the reverse. Especially since now I have to pay for condoms and birth control pills for everyone also.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:11 PM (XItbt)
Wait a minute, let me do some math.
Carries the one, drops the zero....moves the decimal point....does some Pythagorean......
No
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:11 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 07:12 PM (dFi94)
So I guess there were not even and odd days
And those lines were for the food at gas stations right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (cRphR)
It was all a figment of your imagination:-P
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 07:12 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (pUDQf)
Yup...I go to the meat is murder clown at Mickey D's and I get a nice cup for around a buck.
No freak "baristas" needed.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 12, 2016 07:13 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: Skip
****
Sounds like he was the one that drank too much to escape.
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at March 12, 2016 07:13 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Sambo at March 12, 2016 07:03 PM (CwNIZ)
The Provisional Government of the State of Oregon initially established a voluntary tax on the value of real property to pay for county and state government and functions.
It was denounced loudly by its opponents in the legislature as an Utopian scheme that would fail.
The first year, no-one paid it and a mandatory tax was established during the next session of the legislature.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:13 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Jazzuscounty at March 12, 2016 07:13 PM (2qhms)
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:11 PM (XItbt)
Around here it used to be by bathroom count for a large part. Some people kept outhouses just for property tax purposes. Government incentives at work making life better!!
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 07:13 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:14 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at March 12, 2016 07:14 PM (hVdx9)
China is a YUGE country. That's what real power is; setting everything in the country to ONE time zone.
Posted by: Donald Trump at March 12, 2016 07:15 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 07:03 PM (bZ7mE)
Jonestown PA has a beer tax that was established to pay for reconstruction after the Jonestown flood.
Yup.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:15 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Grump928(C) ponders at March 12, 2016 07:07 PM (rwI+c)
****
I remember the shortages as being caused by Govt. price controls on gasoline prices. Producers would only refine so much at the set price.
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 12, 2016 07:15 PM (CSXUW)
The first year, no-one paid it and a mandatory tax was established during the next session of the legislature.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:13 PM (q2o3
My father got himself solidly kicked under the table at many a neighborhood dinner party in my youth by asking our loud and proud MA liberal family friends whether they paid more in taxes than they owed, on the dotted line laid out specifically for that purpose on their tax forms, every time some idiot tried to say "I WISH my taxes were higher. They SHOULD BE higher! So there!"
Hypocrites.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 12, 2016 07:16 PM (ubByS)
It doesn't bother me now that I don't have to work any more, but I was not fit for polite company the first few weeks it went in to effect. I never got over that lost hour in the morning.
And I still hate waiting til 10 at night for the 4th of July fireworks.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 12, 2016 07:17 PM (CNKtx)
Days are too long as it is...and they never stop. Every day, it's another day.
It gets tiresome.
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2016 07:17 PM (hTE1V)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 07:03 PM (bZ7mE)
Jonestown PA has a beer tax that was established to pay for reconstruction after the Jonestown flood.
Yup.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:15 PM (q2o3
Shouldn't it be a Kool-Aid tax?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2016 07:17 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: Empire1 at March 12, 2016 07:17 PM (r9NJ/)
and the executive director of MoveOn.org Political Action, has taken
credit for the violence at a cancelled Trump event last night in
Chicago. He promised similar violence and disruption will occur at
future Trump political events leading up to the election.
Well, good. Apparently it takes terrorists to deal with these evil fascists.
Posted by: Mortimer at March 12, 2016 07:17 PM (Fod/c)
at what used to be midnight and going to bed at what used to be six or
seven pm.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:09 PM (dciA+)
God. To be 23 again . . . I could have even more fun this time around.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:19 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2016 07:20 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 12, 2016 07:20 PM (gxIP7)
Me? I set my clocks AND calendars to Venus time. I get up, go to work, send birthday and Christmas presents according to Venus time.
Because I'm just that different. You lemmings, you.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 07:20 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: PJ at March 12, 2016 07:20 PM (cHuNI)
They only seemed to exist in the big cities. I lived in Minneapolis and had trouble finding gas. Just had to take a drive, by the time we got to Buffalo, 50 miles away, there was plenty of gas. It was cheaper too.
Filled up the boat gas cans on the way to the lake, and filled them up on the way home too.
Posted by: rd at March 12, 2016 07:21 PM (v0YLX)
Yeah. We're far overdue for zero based budgeting and sunset clauses on taxes.
Someone in congress publishes an annual report on all the critical money we spent over prior year (turtle bridges, cowboy poetry, etc.) We need one for all the long should have been expired taxes.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:21 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 12, 2016 07:20 PM (ucDmr)
==============================================
It's really just for me. The whole "children" thing is just a cover.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 07:21 PM (dFi94)
I saw a guy while I was walking out of the PX today with a beard so long it was down to his navel, and it looked like he curled it into ringlets. I think he was in the running for a part in Pirates of the Carribean. It was impressive and disturbing all at once.
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2016 07:21 PM (GgxVX)
Yes, both rooms and the number of window panes were once used to determine property taxes.
I know about the rooms because I once lived in/house sat a Victorian House in Kentucky that had really shallow closets. The owner explained why to me. If they were too deep they counted as a room. He also told me about using the number of window panes. Since he's an archaeologist (historic and prehistoric) and also an old house nut he'd know about that kind of stuff.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 07:22 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 07:23 PM (bceFx)
I went to get some coffee at a Starbucks a few weeks back, when I forgot to get coffee filters the night before and so couldn't make my usual 2/3 thermos , and asked the girl there if I could get some plain Arbuckle. She hadn't heard that one before.
Nice gal, not all like your description, but then it was in an Ingles grocery store.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 07:23 PM (bZ7mE)
I'm not sure she was really talking about coffee in the end.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:23 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2016 07:17 PM (0mRoj)
Pennsylvania, not Guyana
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:23 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:06 PM (pUDQf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_dxLiuXuw
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 07:23 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (gxIP7)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (fizMZ)
i think readers who've observed my 12, then 1, then 2 wake-up times would dispute your claim i'm conforming to any sort of standard workday.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2016 07:21 PM (GgxVX)
Those guys are funny when their beards get caught in the paper shredders.
The idiots with the "ear gauges" (I never knew what they were called) are just totally useless.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (zc3Db)
and the executive director of MoveOn.org Political Action, has taken credit for the violence at a cancelled Trump event last night in Chicago. He promised similar violence and disruption will occur at future Trump political events leading up to the election. Well, good. Apparently it takes terrorists to deal with these evil fascists.
******
Good thing we had all that military training to identify domestic terrorist groups by their concerns about taxes and adherence to the Constitution, huh?
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (XItbt)
I've never heard of Arbuckle. Depression era?
Posted by: Insomniac at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (0mRoj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:23 PM (pUDQf)
hahaha
Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 12, 2016 07:25 PM (ubByS)
Yeah, these are 'professional competitive baristas', which I didn't even know was a thing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:25 PM (pUDQf)
Bankers around here are always complaining about the "Blogger's Hours".
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2016 07:25 PM (hTE1V)
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i think readers who've observed my 12, then 1, then 2 wake-up times would dispute your claim i'm conforming to any sort of standard workday.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (dciA+)
Simple test: Is today March 12th or Zemnog the 478th?
I rest my case.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 07:25 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (dciA+)
We know all about that (to the minute!) we want to know when you're going to sleep.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 12, 2016 07:26 PM (ubByS)
Well, there would be no time changes if we switched to anti-sidereal; the measured day would just be about four minutes longer. And sure, you'd be waking at midnight part of the year, if you set the calendar so that 12am January 1st was solar midnight, when you're in the middle of summer you'd be avoiding the hot parts of the day. You'd drive to work around sunset, get home in the middle of the night, and be able to enjoy the morning sunrise after work.
As far as loony ideas go, it has its upsides.
Posted by: Locarno at March 12, 2016 07:26 PM (ivaye)
The Balance must endure!
Posted by: The Scarlet Pumpernickle at March 12, 2016 07:26 PM (XVjZ8)
Posted by: JROD at March 12, 2016 07:26 PM (wnwJC)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:25 PM (pUDQf)
It's not a thing, anymore than palm reading is a thing, exploitative fortune-telling industry marketing narratives aside.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 12, 2016 07:27 PM (ubByS)
Parallel Universe Time Standard (PUTS) doesn't affect all universes. Only those that comply.
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 07:27 PM (bceFx)
Ah, the Spring of 73'.
I was a wayward Zygote. Just looking for a place to set down some roots.
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2016 07:27 PM (hTE1V)
Ponder that.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at March 12, 2016 07:27 PM (kfoLf)
i think readers who've observed my 12, then 1, then 2 wake-up times would dispute your claim i'm conforming to any sort of standard workday.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:24 PM (dciA+)
Well said.
In fact, think any regular reader of this blog should be allowed to claim AceLight Standard Time as their default timekeeping system.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:27 PM (XItbt)
Jonestown PA...
That's Johnstown, PA and yes, we still pay the liquor tax enacted to rebuild it.
The flood happened in 1889.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 07:27 PM (RcpcZ)
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 07:23 PM (NPofj)
I love me some Leary. That was hilarious.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:28 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Zeno at March 12, 2016 07:28 PM (VrQW9)
What the hell, man. You can't be THAT wrong. It's your one job.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 07:28 PM (Dj0WE)
The period between 1900 and 1930 was the time we pretty much mucked up the Constitution, balance of powers, and US banking system....
I consider the most 'Progressive' time in the US ever...
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 12, 2016 07:28 PM (RK8AH)
Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:29 PM (BO/km)
if dusk or dawn? This is daylight savings in a nutshell, only later, or
earlier!"
Precisely why I run my clocks on military time. Always. Years of working around the clock not knowing if I'd overslept or only had two hours of sleep.
Posted by: RosalindJ at March 12, 2016 07:29 PM (RDenq)
Posted by: ShainS at March 12, 2016 07:29 PM (a6Ff7)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:29 PM (fizMZ)
19th century, but lingered on in rural areas for as much as a century afterwards, I think. The Arbuckle brothers were the first to market pre-roasted beans in one-pound sacks. Prior to them you bought your beans green and did your own roasting over the fire, with predictably mixed results. Professionally roasted beans were such a hit that coffee became "Arbuckle" for awhile.
Other than the book in which I read the above explanation, the only time I have ever run across the term was in a Louis Lamoure novel.
Anyway, I thought it was a kind of fun piece of trivia.
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 07:30 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: derit at March 12, 2016 07:30 PM (OC+TJ)
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 12, 2016 07:30 PM (uiVGU)
Throw in a World War and Depression and, well, what a time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:30 PM (bceFx)
Yea, for the children. Standing out there shivering in the pitch dark, waiting for the school bus.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 12, 2016 07:30 PM (CNKtx)
>>>ou know, we could implement BananaDream's idea if we
switched standards from a solar day to an antisidereal (cosmic ray) day.
You'd get about an extra half hour of sleep a week, and we could banish
a calendar day to the outer darkness. Which 31-day month most deserves
to lose a day?
My vote is for August. August sucks.
...
you can't. within six time changes, you're waking up at what used to
be midnight and going to bed at what used to be six or seven pm.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:09 PM (dciA+)
In college, one quarter I went full on 28-hour (up 19, sleep 9) days. You only get six per week. And it's very disconcerting when you wake-up, look at the twilight outside, and can't tell whether it's dusk or dawn.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2016 07:31 PM (EzgxV)
As far as loony ideas go, it has its upsides.
...
sleeping when the sun is out is bad. believe me, I know.
it may be fine for a nap but it's bad for your daily sleep.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:31 PM (dciA+)
I love me some Leary. That was hilarious.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:28 PM (pUDQf)
Glad I could bring you a laugh
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 07:31 PM (NPofj)
Eventually the day would lengthen.
Then we could work one day per year.
Winning.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:31 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:31 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:31 PM (4ErVI)
how do you do this and go to class? Aren't you sleeping during class time by the end of the week?
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:32 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 07:32 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (FkBIv)
Also computers rely on having accurate time, flipping back and forth twice a year introduces potential problems.
As to the SJW's in league with the college where Trump was going to speak: Idiots, all it will do is fire up his supporters to get to the polls. Assuming it gets reported in the MSM.
Posted by: jbarntt at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (hZo0w)
It's too complex to even attempt to explain.
Temporal displacement is a side effect of the tachyon emissions from the Warp Core in Ace's Time Machine, which he totally doesn't have...
Let's just leave it at that.
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (hTE1V)
I have had 6 calls from Kasich, via Ohio Republican Party
I have told them each time that Kasich Ain't all that
They do not get it, and neither do most of YOU reading this
The.More.You.Fuck.With.Trump.The.More.We.Like.Him
The.More.You.Lie.And.Blame.Trump.The.More.We.Are.Drawn.To.Him.
The.More.You.Blame.All.Voters.The.More.We.Are.Drawn.To.Him.
The.More.You.Talk.Up. Cruz.The.More.We.Are.Drawn.To.Him
Ohio is lost to you ACE, Florida is lost to you.
It's too late
You effed it all up and helped to eff it all up
Fuckwad
Posted by: Tom_Ohio at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (ALkPM)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (bceFx)
Try working rotating 8 hour shifts, 7 days straight of swings, mids, days with two "days" off between.
THAT SUCKED!
Posted by: rd at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: Zeno at March 12, 2016 07:28 PM (VrQW9)
Humor, do you grok it, mother fucker?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (CNKtx)
Though, granted, pretty much everyone else bitched about them.
Posted by: Locarno at March 12, 2016 07:34 PM (ivaye)
As a school board member, I have learned that some kids learn better in the morning and some in the afternoon. Again, it's about evenly split so really daylight savings doesn't come into play. What would be better where there is a big enough population is to run schooling shifts so that the kids that will learn better in the afternoon and evening would do better as they are generally the ones that do the worst in our current system.
Posted by: doug at March 12, 2016 07:34 PM (dQg02)
*****
Esta 12 de Marzo en Estados Unidos, senior.
Posted by: Brand New Naturally Conservative Voter at March 12, 2016 07:34 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: Mr. Brady at March 12, 2016 07:34 PM (/542q)
Posted by: goon at March 12, 2016 07:34 PM (gy5kE)
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2016 07:34 PM (GgxVX)
That's pretty interesting. Like the first dude to pre slice your bread.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:34 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 07:35 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:30 PM (bceFx)
Not to mention Prohibition....
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 12, 2016 07:35 PM (RK8AH)
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 12, 2016 07:35 PM (uiVGU)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 07:35 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:35 PM (bceFx)
Though, granted, pretty much everyone else bitched about them.
...
well then you have an advantage. most people have diurnal clocks and we're pretty umbly* when they're screwed with.
* mumbles, fumbles, and stumbles. got that from Dual Survival. something you check for if you suspect someone has hypothermia or heat exhaustion, the "umbles."
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:36 PM (dciA+)
Super SJW barista.
Fucking. Huckleberry. After the novel.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:36 PM (pUDQf)
but.....................DAVE'S NOT HERE !!!!
Posted by: Tommy Chong at March 12, 2016 07:37 PM (/542q)
Even back then those crises weren't going to waste.
Time zones though came about because of railroads.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:37 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2016 07:37 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 07:35 PM (2x3L+)
I have pretty much the same thing. Instead of a night mask though (which I have never found one which does not get the elastic stretched out beyond repair) I wear a big hoodie and just pull the hood over my eyes. Probably easier for a dude though- less hair to get in the way.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2016 07:37 PM (iHjB5)
Not to mention. One of the single greatest lessons a country could ever learn, and, well, we learned nothing.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (fizMZ)
It's too complex to even attempt to explain.
Temporal displacement is a side effect of the tachyon emissions from the Warp Core in Ace's Time Machine, which he totally doesn't have...
Let's just leave it at that.
Posted by: garrett at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (hTE1V)
Several years ago a particular Moron got trapped in an HQ time displacement matrix and his eventual return to phase alignment was touch-and-go.
Thank Goodness the HQ has at the ready a team of top men ready to deal with such things.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Gen. Jack Ripper at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (HtsKA)
Posted by: Texas
****
Messes up Texas' hair and hides behind New Mexico.
Posted by: Arizona at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (hVdx9)
276 A guy named Dave keeps robo-calling me from a PAC, telling me Trump is the Debbil
but.....................DAVE'S NOT HERE !!!!
Posted by: Tommy Chong at March 12, 2016 07:37 PM (/542q)
But is.... oh... I don't know.... SATAN?????
Posted by: Church Lady at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (RK8AH)
* mumbles, fumbles, and stumbles. got that from Dual Survival. something you check for if you suspect someone has hypothermia or heat exhaustion, the "umbles."
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:36 PM (dciA+)
Whatever happened to the biorhythm thing that was popular for a while there? Seems to me if it was real everyone would have theirs figured out, what with the internet and all that. I think you had to have charts and stuff back in the day. And maybe an abacus.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (Dj0WE)
******
Unless you're west of the Mississippi. Then all threads are 1+ hours off.
It's like racism again bitter clinging people or something.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (uiVGU)
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (B0X2V)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (FkBIv)
275 Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (bceFx)
Super SJW barista.
Fucking. Huckleberry. After the novel.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:36 PM (pUDQf)
Yeah, but Huck is a cool nickname.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
No, he doesn't of course because when you go full-Leftist, you have your humor removed via your colon.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (A/3fN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (MQEz6)
Stuck on Babylon 4 he is.....
Posted by: Zathros at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (RK8AH)
Posted by: eman
****
Didn't they realize they forgot to carry the one?
Posted by: Tilikum Armored Killer Assault Whale at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 07:41 PM (NeFrd)
'Twas his first name. Huckleberry Eugene, if I'm not mistaken.
Should be a law.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:41 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 07:38 PM (bceFx)
Well, they learned a couple things. One, they have not tried to outright ban cigarettes, but rather tax the crap out of them (which gives them more money and also reapplies the lessons of prohibition in different ways.) Two, they have ramped up the amount of constant, absolute stuff against cigarettes on TV, Radio, Billboards. Odd though, still seems like a ton of people smoke.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2016 07:42 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (Dj0WE)
I think those biorhythm machines were pushed out by video game machines which allowed for much better revenue streams. A person could only hit the biorhythm machine once without looking like a total imbecile but he could pour hundreds of quarters in a row into a video game machine with no problem.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 12, 2016 07:42 PM (zc3Db)
I have had 6 calls from Kasich, via Ohio Republican Party
I have told them each time that Kasich Ain't all that
They do not get it, and neither do most of YOU reading this
The.More.You.Fuck.With.Trump.The.More.We.Like.Him
The.More.You.Lie.And.Blame.Trump.The.More.We.Are.Drawn.To.Him.
The.More.You.Blame.All.Voters.The.More.We.Are.Drawn.To.Him.
The.More.You.Talk.Up. Cruz.The.More.We.Are.Drawn.To.Him
Ohio is lost to you ACE, Florida is lost to you.
It's too late
You effed it all up and helped to eff it all up
Fuckwad
Posted by: Tom_Ohio at March 12, 2016 07:33 PM (ALkPM)
Tom... you may want to cut back on the coffee and/or cocaine before you have a stroke.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 07:42 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: derit at March 12, 2016 07:43 PM (OC+TJ)
Interesting about the kids who do better am vs pm. I believe it; I'm a morning person married to a night owl.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 12, 2016 07:43 PM (CNKtx)
You scamp.
Well New Mexico is my bitch so when I get ready I'll have her move and I'll get you.
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 07:43 PM (bceFx)
Fucking. Huckleberry. After the novel.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:36 PM (pUDQf)
Yeah, but Huck is a cool nickname.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (MQEz6)
The kid is allowed to go around using the n-word, I assume.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 07:43 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (B0X2V)
The discourse at this place has gone off a cliff.
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 07:43 PM (bA+CL)
Well, he's certainly got a first name that would fit in well with thuggish violence.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:44 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 12, 2016 07:44 PM (JRWOl)
305 Super SJW barista.
Fucking. Huckleberry. After the novel.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 07:36 PM (pUDQf)
Yeah, but Huck is a cool nickname.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:40 PM (MQEz6)
The kid is allowed to go around using the n-word, I assume.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 12, 2016 07:43 PM (Dj0WE)
Yeah, but only when travelling by raft.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:45 PM (MQEz6)
Odd though, still seems like a ton of people smoke.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
But 50 years ago it was close to 50% who did.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 07:45 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:45 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (4ErVI)"
I use a fan for white noise. Some people use those sound machines that mimic rain or rushing water. I learned to use them to mute the outside world when I worked rotating shifts.
Heavy lightproof drapes are also a necessity.
Posted by: rd at March 12, 2016 07:45 PM (v0YLX)
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (B0X2V)
That settles it. We have DST becuase Ben Franklin was night blind as all get out.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:46 PM (XItbt)
You are correct in correcting me. Tax the ever-loving fuck out people was a lesson learned from Prohibition.
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 07:46 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 07:45 PM (FkBIv)
Now, they just drink coffee. Or rather, more coffee.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2016 07:46 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: A Psychiatrist at March 12, 2016 07:46 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 07:46 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM
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Yeah, Dack, the kind I use are nearly soundproof but not enough to not hear an alarm. The comfort issue took some adjustment. The eye mask was worse. I wake up in the middle of the night bc they work so well with no idea what time it is and I get freaked out. I sleep so soundly though when I can actually fall asleep that I get into such a deep sleep and such a dream state that I can't wake myself out of a dream. Last night, I dreamt that someone broke into my house and I dreamt I was teying to get my hands on my gun and call 911 and call my dog a at the same time. When I finally woke up, I was convinced someone was in the house except for the fact that my Great Dane was sound asleep. She would have woken up and barking at the door if anyone actually was anywhere outside or inside the house. I'm still trying to get used to the switch
Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 07:47 PM (2x3L+)
Oh please do. Be careful though don't bruise him.
Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:47 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at March 12, 2016 07:43 PM (bA+CL)
******
Spittle flecks by the thousands and acres of straw dying needlessly daily....
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 12, 2016 07:47 PM (CSXUW)
313 YOU FUCKING INVENT A NEW STOVE AND EYEGLASSES AND BATTERY, AND THEN YOU FCKIN GET BACK TO ME, ASSMUNCH.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (B0X2V)
That settles it. We have DST becuase Ben Franklin was night blind as all get out.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:46 PM (XItbt)
He blamed all those French hookers.
Posted by: eman at March 12, 2016 07:47 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 07:47 PM (xsQZk)
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs
A blog, gentlemen, if you can keep it.
Posted by: Benjamin Franklin at March 12, 2016 07:48 PM (B0X2V)
I spent 2nd grade at Ft. Wainwright, AK, which is about 100 miles south of the arctic circle. In the winter the sun went up around 10:30 in the morning and was down by 2:00 in the afternoon. In the summer it never got darker than dusk. It was strange.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 12, 2016 07:48 PM (RcpcZ)
I've mentioned this before but there's a CD called "Sleep on a Train" which is a recording of a 1960s (I think) train. That's all. Just a good recording of a real train at night.
It's wonderful for white noise.
amazon has it.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:48 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: freaked at March 12, 2016 07:45 PM (BO/km)
We're gonna hafta go all ee cummings around here
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 07:48 PM (NPofj)
>>>In college, one quarter I went full on 28-hour (up 19, sleep
9) days. You only get six per week. And it's very disconcerting when
you wake-up, look at the twilight outside, and can't tell whether it's
dusk or dawn.
how do you do this and go to class? Aren't you sleeping during class time by the end of the week?
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 07:32 PM (dciA+)
Mostly, I didn't go to class. I was in the Computer Science weed-out class and was on the computer about 10 hours a day. I got whomped really bad when I went to Managerial Accounting the period before the midterm to find out what was going to be on it -- the teacher had changed the syllabus because of a vacation and I ended-up taking the midterm completely unprepared at what felt, to-me, was 4 AM.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2016 07:48 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:49 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: Osoloco at March 12, 2016 07:49 PM (j1ekQ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (4ErVI)
I am a fairly light sleeper, even with the earplugs. I always wake up to my alarm (across the room from my cell.) Also, if you are worried about intruders, a dog's bark slices right through them.
*gives meaningful look at my dog*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2016 07:49 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Eromero at March 12, 2016 07:49 PM (zLDYs)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (2x3L+)
Sailors can sleep anywhere at any time for any length
Ring a bell and it's like ten shots of espresso
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (xsQZk)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: L, Elle at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (2x3L+)
*****
I hope no one grabs him. Old dude would pop like an over ripe grape.
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 12, 2016 07:51 PM (CSXUW)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 07:51 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:52 PM (fizMZ)
As a minister you can't be shitting me. This on TV?
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 07:52 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:49 PM (w4NZ
No, no, he's not actually. I was just being sarcastic. Trump phrased it in like "there Bernie again..." to people with Bernie signs. Sorry for the confusion. But it is a spectacle with the non stop protesters popping up and Trump getting them kicked out again and again. I think he really enjoys this part, to be honest.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 12, 2016 07:52 PM (JRWOl)
That was my first duty station. I rotated to Ft Campbell, KY at the end of June. Dark and warm just seemed wrong.
Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2016 07:52 PM (2hcmo)
Isn't there a Phoenix exception to the AZ, no DST sanity? Which just makes calling AZ all sorts of fucked up.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (XItbt)
Hoping they taze a fool
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (xsQZk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 12, 2016 07:39 PM (uiVGU)
Very interesting.... do you know that since the anti smoking campaign started, lung cancer rates have gone UP!!!! significantly???
How..... odd....
Posted by: Don Q. at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (RK8AH)
Posted by: Joe Hallenbeck at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Texas
****
State bird is the Cactus Wren. Lost a bet...
Posted by: Arizona at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (hVdx9)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 07:54 PM (dFi94)
I can't do earplugs at night. They bug me. I sleep with a fan on - white
noise. Both my kids sleep with fans on. Son's fiance sleeps with a fan
on. Grandkids all sleep with fans on. I think mister-soon-to-be sleeps
with a fan on too. If not, he will.
Posted by: grammie winger, watching the fig tree at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (dFi94)
My girlfriend likes to sleep with the television on. Not good.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:54 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Grey Fox at March 12, 2016 07:54 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2016 07:54 PM (GgxVX)
Thanks for the clarification. With this campaign season you just never know.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 12, 2016 07:54 PM (w4NZ8)
e same and blamed the violence on Sanders and the kooks. Her weak sauce statement was a mishmash of generalities designed to offend no one and offending everyone.
Thank God she is such a horrible politician.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 07:55 PM (Nwg0u)
Mockingbird here, know how you feel. Not even a raptor or anything.
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 07:55 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 12, 2016 07:52 PM (JRWOl)
--
Whack a mole
There should be a video game: Pop-A-Protester
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 07:55 PM (cbfNE)
Please, this is a family blog.
What you do with your husband should remain private!
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (q2o38)
He has no idea how perilously close he has come to meeting his Maker over that nonsense.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (CNKtx)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (fizMZ)
How..... odd....
******
First rule I learned in science: correlation is not causation.
I believe current textbooks have modified this to read, "unless you're a liberal and get government funding"
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (XItbt)
Sailors can sleep anywhere at any time for any length
Ring a bell and it's like ten shots of espresso
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (xsQZk)
to this day.... 20 years after retiring, I still have to sleep with a fan on.
Because I was an Electronics Guy in the Navy.... and if the power went down all the blowers in berthing would stop.... and we had to scramble to get stuff shut down... so our radars would not blow when we brought the power back up.
If its too quiet... it still wakes me up...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (RK8AH)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (CNKtx)
****
Move the clock across the room. Ask me how I know this works....
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 12, 2016 07:57 PM (CSXUW)
Fucking clock molesters.
I think we need a mass movement of civil disobedience on this. If you want to change your work or store or school hours, *do that* and leave me the fuck alone.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2016 07:58 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: Eromero at March 12, 2016 07:58 PM (zLDYs)
How..... odd....
******
First rule I learned in science: correlation is not causation.
I believe current textbooks have modified this to read, "unless you're a liberal and get government funding"
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (XItbt)
Yup..... but they spend a lot of money to do something they say is supposed to be good for us.... and it does just the opposite...
How... Governmental....
Its almost like.... shudder... they don't know what the hell they are doing....
Posted by: Don Q. at March 12, 2016 07:58 PM (RK8AH)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 12, 2016 07:58 PM (CNKtx)
Silence and bells would instantly wake me up
Good point on the silence, totally forgot that
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 07:58 PM (xsQZk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSn8IYQUks
Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 12, 2016 07:59 PM (ubByS)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at March 12, 2016 07:59 PM (NeFrd)
-
He's already told us that. He's going to raises taxes on the middle class by $9,000 per household. Feel the Bern!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 07:59 PM (Nwg0u)
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Tom... you may want to cut back on the coffee and/or cocaine before you have a stroke.
Posted by: redbanzai
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Actually, it's kind of funny if you read it in Christopher Walken's voice.
Posted by: Chi at March 12, 2016 07:59 PM (yvjkM)
Posted by: Ghost of kari at March 12, 2016 08:00 PM (ubByS)
Some of them are just built-up sound effects tracks, like her "Cryosleep Pod" or "Interstellar Cruiser" tracks. Obviously she can't record those.
http://whitenoisemp3s.com/sounds-like/space
she also has an underwater one, like scuba bubbles and stuff.
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 08:00 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: BILLY JOEL at March 12, 2016 08:00 PM (hTE1V)
*****
Not for me. I'm stubborn. I tired that for a time and ended up hitting snooze and crawling back into bed again.
For me, waking up is a process that requires stages.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:00 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: derit at March 12, 2016 08:00 PM (OC+TJ)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2016 07:54 PM (4ErVI)
Some people can ignore noise, and some people can't.
These people tend to marry each other, just like people who like heat and people who like cold.
Sick joke of the universe.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2016 08:01 PM (bLnSU)
"Team AZ."
Isn't there a Phoenix exception to the AZ, no DST sanity? Which just makes calling AZ all sorts of fucked up.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 07:53 PM (XItbt)
Phoenix does not change time with the rest of the country. Does that make us bad people?....Don't judge us!!!!
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 12, 2016 08:01 PM (gxIP7)
TASER!!!! Haha!!!
screw it and just pee the bed but I'm sure the wife would be a tad pissed
Like stabby stabby pissed
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 08:01 PM (xsQZk)
Not quite that bad here but we sit outside in the cool until at least 9.
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 08:01 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:01 PM (fizMZ)
Thank God she is such a horrible politician.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Yes, but this is not 1992. A lot of bad water has gone under the bridge.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 12, 2016 08:01 PM (FkBIv)
Like limiting fat and protein intake. All of a sudden, we have a type 2 diabetes epidemic. Strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (iHjB5)
Sailors can sleep anywhere at any time for any length
Ring a bell and it's like ten shots of espresso
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 07:50 PM (xsQZk)
to this day.... 20 years after retiring, I still have to sleep with a fan on.
Because I was an Electronics Guy in the Navy.... and if the power went down all the blowers in berthing would stop.... and we had to scramble to get stuff shut down... so our radars would not blow when we brought the power back up.
If its too quiet... it still wakes me up...
Posted by: Don Q. at March 12, 2016 07:56 PM (RK8AH)
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Gah, me too. Fans blowing and if possible, static. It's like ocean waves.
I can also fall right to sleep with a light shining directly in my eyes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (jR7Wy)
*****
Everything is funnier in Walken's voice.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (XItbt)
No idea what is going on, I can't even correlate them with CMEs or gamma ray bursts.
But it makes it hard to sleep the rest of the night.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (q2o38)
Y'no, the ones that have different bird calls sounding on the hour. (Heh. Present from the kids.)
They're a pain in the ass to reset at the time change so I procrastinate until I can't stand the mixed up birds anymore.
Yeah, they should pick Daylight or Standard and stick with it.
Do it for the birds, I say.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (T/5A0)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: ace at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (dciA+)
It was 5 years before that somebitch went away.
Posted by: Ralph at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (BrwSr)
Posted by: redbanzai
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Actually, it's kind of funny if you read it in Christopher Walken's voice.
Posted by: Chi at March 12, 2016 07:59 PM (yvjkM)
I love me some Walken... Suicide Kings is one of my favorite movies.
Posted by: redbanzai at March 12, 2016 08:03 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at March 12, 2016 08:03 PM (0O7c5)
No idea what is going on, I can't even correlate them with CMEs or gamma ray bursts.
But it makes it hard to sleep the rest of the night.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 08:02 PM (q2o3
*****
They are trying to tell you to feed them new batteries.
Posted by: Tim in GA at March 12, 2016 08:03 PM (CSXUW)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 12, 2016 08:04 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: fluffy
-----------
Could be worse, I left Ft. Bragg in September, wearing summer Khakis, arrived at Ft. Dix in a blowing blizzard.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 12, 2016 08:04 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:05 PM (fizMZ)
I'm a cheap-ass, so I downloaded some long sound-effect YouTube videos (like 8 hours of a thunderstorm on the Gulf of Mexico), but most of them have too much variation in sound, it actually wakes me up.
Mostly I need relative quiet and light but continuous sound, like a fan, though most fans pitch a little high.
Even Rainymood has too much variation, especially in volume.
There is a 12-hour loop of the background "engine hum" (low roar really) of the ST:TNG Enterprise that is pretty good.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2016 08:06 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: Texas at March 12, 2016 08:06 PM (bceFx)
The science is settled! There is a consensus!
Posted by: Big Government Nutrition Advisors at March 12, 2016 08:06 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 12, 2016 08:06 PM (Zu3d9)
.....
It's either an issue with the hard wired power supply or battery. Some kind of warning related to power.
I've had the same problem with two separate homes. It's uncanny how they invariably go off in the middle of the night. Drove me nuts until I figured it out. The first few times I thought I dreamt the while thing and it was some kind of recurring nightmare.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:07 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: irongrampa at March 12, 2016 08:07 PM (P/8aq)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 12, 2016 08:08 PM (bceFx)
Posted by: Ralph at March 12, 2016 08:08 PM (BrwSr)
Every dang time! I make sure to keep 9 volts in the house at all times.
Posted by: no good deed at March 12, 2016 08:08 PM (GgxVX)
396
I have a Pop Tarts clock I had to send away for that goes backwards, I don't use it though it does work.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:05 PM (fizMZ)
We have a clock that runs backwards. It's in the entry hall opposite a mirror. You can either get used to it going counter-clockwise, or read it in the mirror with the numbers backward.
Posted by: cthulhu at March 12, 2016 08:08 PM (EzgxV)
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 12, 2016 08:08 PM (NHQQx)
The science is settled! There is a consensus!
Posted by: Big Government Nutrition Advisors at March 12, 2016 08:06 PM (noWW6)
Wine is bad! No it's good! Wait, alcoholism and birth defects! Better sleep with limited quantities! Worse sleep with the wrong quantity! Red win is good! No, sulfides! White wine!...
...aww, screw it. I need a drink. *chugs*
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:10 PM (XItbt)
...aww, screw it. I need a drink. *chugs*
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:10 PM (XItbt)
Eggs. Game. Set. Match.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2016 08:11 PM (iHjB5)
...aww, screw it. I need a drink. *chugs*
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:10 PM (XItbt)
Yeah. My MD mentioned that both too much sexual activity and too little could cause an enlarged prostrate.
I didn't ask if I got to choose.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 08:12 PM (q2o38)
...Oil flow was severely restricted and prices skyrocketed...
Oil flow was severely restricted by the US gas distribution network because they had an excuse and it benefited them. Otherwise how could the gas lines disappear overnight?
I stand by my statement. Only rubes call it an embargo.
GOPe and Dems were as active in 1973 as they are now. They liked the higher prices and a manufactured crisis.
Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 08:13 PM (CRXed)
Last Sunday I slept 9 1/2 hrs which in my opinion is making up what I don't get during the week.
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:14 PM (fizMZ)
The smoke alarm going off for one beep in the middle of the night startled and pissed me off so much once that i got out of bed, ripped every alarm wire out of the ceiling, put the fixture back up and didn't fix it for months... firmly resolved that I preferred to die in a fire than get woken up by that crap again.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:15 PM (XItbt)
Also, Texas wanted to get rid of DLS but was blocked by the usual Dixiecrat/Rino's in the Legislature that keep getting elected and blocking shit because, hey... we're a GOP state right?.. heh...yeah, scratch down a little and they're everywhere around here.
Posted by: Yip at March 12, 2016 08:16 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: @votermom at March 12, 2016 08:16 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 08:13 PM (CRXed)
To start with it came out of price and wage controls under Nixon. Carter exacerbated it.
I remember my step-sister swearing up and down. She did everything as a mom to reduce her electricity usage, you know the way Carter asked us to, and she got a note from the local power co-op that they were raising her rates because of low usage.
I remember her saying she she cranked the thermostat up to 75 that day and left it there.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 12, 2016 08:17 PM (q2o38)
I worked in the pile biz for a time and by necessity did some boning up on the regulatory history. It's a thousand degrees of fucked up.
If you every want to drive yourself nuts, research the TX Railroad Commission and try to make sense of why they STILL have control over the industry.
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:19 PM (XItbt)
the way Carter asked us to, and she got a note from the local power
co-op that they were raising her rates because of low usage."
See also: efficient cars and gasoline taxes; low flow toilets and water rates.
Consume less? Pay more! It's the American way!
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2016 08:19 PM (noWW6)
To answer your ? From last night yes, she going to Tennessee
Mom and grandma have spoken
Posted by: Navypopojojo at March 12, 2016 08:20 PM (xsQZk)
Yeah, I guess that could make me a name-caller, but math doesn't give a shit.
I still don't trust government to micromanage people's behavior, but if I lost all my libertarian instincts, smoking would be high on my ban list because it's just inhaling heavily carcinogenic chemicals on a daily basis. There's a genetic component and there are other causes of cancer, but if you smoke you're just gradually destroying your lungs.
Some dumb asshole will probably engineer the perfect virus and let it loose, so it may all be academic.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2016 08:20 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at March 12, 2016 08:21 PM (bLnSU)
Should have been "I worked in the oil biz for a time..."
Posted by: Damiano at March 12, 2016 08:22 PM (XItbt)
You must be a DARPA psych op agent. Back in 1973 you would find soft drink vending machines and maybe candy bars. 7-11's were just coming out and were not owned and operated by people from India. Still a lot of blue laws in Virginia. (couldn't buy nylons on Sunday)
If you aren't a DARPA psych op agent then you must be a rube. :-)
Posted by: scorecard at March 12, 2016 08:22 PM (CRXed)
What I remember is Rahm Emmanuel describing the heater setting in the Oval Office during Emmanuel's tenure as White House chief of staff to Barack Obama.
Quote: "You could grow orchids in there."
At least Jimmy Carter had the decency to put on a sweater and actually turn down his own thermostat at the same time he was urging energy conservation on the part of the serf class.
Posted by: torquewrench at March 12, 2016 08:22 PM (noWW6)
Shhhhhhhh
Posted by: Vika at March 12, 2016 08:22 PM (xsQZk)
And get some sleep, it's for all intents 21:26hrs (9:26pm)
Posted by: Skip at March 12, 2016 08:24 PM (fizMZ)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 12, 2016 08:26 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Mary at March 12, 2016 08:42 PM (2ly7u)
It was uplifting as usual, Kari. Many thanks for the link.
Trump is going to try to rid us of PCism, and has started as of tonight, pressing charges against the protestors.
Even after announcing his decision to press charges, still some female got up and started screaming obscenities.
Trump had her arrested. Good. Let the people who want to listen to Trump have the seats currently being usurped by the thug protestors.
The judge released the man who got up on stage and Ttacked Trump. Turns out after he was let go, evidence has appeared that this guy had ISIS affiliations, and the dirtbag has been videod while dragging our US flag on the ground and stomping on it.
He should be found again, and prosecuted for being a terrorist.
*Strengthen our military
*Protect our borders/build a wall Mexico WILL pay for.
*Make trade agreements that are good for the US, not other countries.
Make America Great Again!!
Posted by: Bitter Jamie Farr at March 12, 2016 08:47 PM (ccN7g)
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at March 12, 2016 08:49 PM (laMCB)
Posted by: Heresolong at March 12, 2016 09:00 PM (ntIeo)
this is the best night of the year.
i wish we could jump ahead tonight and just leave it there forever.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 12, 2016 09:31 PM (EslWx)
Posted by: Prinacat at March 12, 2016 09:43 PM (Og26C)
I'm with you, ace. Who wants to drink Valu-Rite before noon?
--
132 as a morning person that checks this blog daily at work, I had a good laugh at this one
Begone Satan!
Posted by: The Black Republican at March 12, 2016 09:47 PM (fTZhC)
Posted by: Alaska at March 12, 2016 10:11 PM (aMw64)
30 years ago the whine was just the opposite. Not enough DST! Now with everybody looking at a PC, phone, or IPad all the time ...well times change.
Posted by: dogfish at March 12, 2016 10:24 PM (SSeCw)
If there has to be "Summer- Time" let it be short, and smack in the middle of high summer, when the kids are out of school, and the mornings are so bright you hardly notice - Maybe mid June to Mid August.
Posted by: A conservative exploring themes of loneliness, depression and isolation at March 12, 2016 11:00 PM (3fTXW)
When it began late like that, it was far less painful, even if not all that enjoyable, because by the time it kicked in the mornings were very light.
I was also young and in love so missing an hour of sleep wasn't that unusual.
Posted by: SarahW (sock off) at March 12, 2016 11:04 PM (3fTXW)
Posted by: Badda Bing at March 12, 2016 11:36 PM (gxIP7)
I set my own clocks the same way once I had an apartment of my own. Then I thought..WHY am I doing this? It's stupid! I want to know the right time!
So I changed them back to real time...and it was great.
Posted by: March Hare at March 13, 2016 01:35 AM (SJ184)
Posted by: Fredlike at March 13, 2016 06:13 AM (AHd0y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NoMPxomjiw
Time for Ace to apologize to Mr Trump.
Posted by: Da Judge at March 13, 2016 07:17 AM (rREgU)
Posted by: jmp at March 13, 2016 08:12 AM (1jFzW)
Serving on a Fast U. S. Navy ship we crossed time zones regularly ship time could be set to what ever the time the Captain wished or by regulations.
The thing is, unless you had a clock or a watch to stand time had no meaning.
We had several times, Zulu Time, Bell time and 24 hour clock time.
For those who never lived on bell time every thirty minutes a bell whose number of rings corresponding to the time was rung over the 1 MC, until four hours went by or Eight Bells.
To fly across a date line and time lines is truly strange, you can leave on some aircraft and arrive the same time and date you left.
If, someone did not tell you what time it was, or that they had set the clock back or forward you would not notice the difference.
All in all, I agree that time should spring forward at mid day and back at mid night each year, less work day time and more sleep time.
I personally like DST it gives me more daylight in the spring and summer to enjoy it.
Time is a construct of the mind, set by patterns in the sun, moon, the seasons and stars. Time is set in the decay of small atoms and such, but time is a mirage which exist in the brain.
Posted by: obsidian at March 13, 2016 09:28 AM (ARK2U)
Yet they made it work, somehow.
Posted by: obsidian at March 13, 2016 09:31 AM (ARK2U)
Setting your clocks and whining about waking up early half of the year then brag about getting that one extra hour of sleep, only to whine about it being taken away by some foreign god six months later.
Call us when you get a clue.
Yours Truly,
Arizona
Posted by: JDubya at March 13, 2016 11:12 AM (KHUSC)
Your mealy-mouthed mush in defense of Cruz -- and in trying to distinguish him from Rubio -- is laughable.
The attacks on Trump after Chicago and not only his right to speak, but the rights of his supporters tell me all I need o know. Chicago was an opportunity for defenders of freedom, liberty and the right of association to speak out. Those who chose to exploit it instead for personal profit are not deserving of high office -- they are too low on character.
Same goes for those defending them.
Posted by: Dancing Queen at March 13, 2016 07:05 PM (f9DPq)
Posted by: tbone at March 14, 2016 10:41 AM (cySSa)
it's all about congress-critters having one more hour of GOLF time.
i don't care if you - or EVERYONE - wants to get up an hour early. go for it. knock yourselves out.
just don't make ME get up an hour early, too.
and besides ... now that Daylight "Saving" Time lasts more days than "Standard Time" ... wouldn't the definition of "Standard" imply that the "Daylight" Time is now the "Standard"? hey! the grubers would LOVE to be able to re-label (what is now) "Standard" Time as "Daylight Wasting Time" !
Posted by: Waldo Trout at March 14, 2016 10:54 AM (M1MpJ)
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