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Don't Look Now, But The European Union Is Now Calling for... A Wall

Okay, not a wall, exactly. But a new report, the Juncker report, went out today telling all the capitals of Europe that they must move expeditiously to build up the border on the exterior of the European Union, if they wish to keep the Schengen free-circulation-of-people-in-Europe alive.

That is, if you want to keep having no borders within the Union, you need to build up the fences and interdiction efforts at its frontiers.

From LeFig. Translation follows.

You should know that the Germany and France and England, for example, are very keen to increase the border patrols in Greece, Italy, Yugoslavia, etc. -- the actual countries where immigrants first land.

Schengen: Brussels sounds the alarm and mobilizes

LE FIGARO NEWS -- In an official document that Le Figaro has been able to famiiarize itself with, the Juncker commission will declare Wednesday an emergency call to the countries of the European Union to save the free circulation [of people and goods] within the Schengen terroritory [the area in which there are no border stops or passport checks[.

The humanitarian disaster which is is forming in Greece will continue maybe as a wake-up call. [Hey, I didn't write the original.] The Juncker commission will call for the mobilization of the 28 capitals of the EU for saving Schengen and expediting in Greece -- as soon as the end of March -- massive reinforcements necessary to regain control of the external borders of the EU.

The emergency call which is also an admission after six months of political fecklessness, is written in black and white in an official document of 14 pages that Le Figaro has been able to consult. It is to be released to the public in the morning. [It already has been so released; I'm writing this up the night before its release.]
The free circulation [of people] is "one of the major achievements of Europe" and is today "unstable at its heart," write the authors. Restoring the good functioning of Schengen is today "a primordial interest for the entire EU."

In five days of a summit, which could complicate sixty years of building [the EU], the commission, supported by Paris and Berlin, wants to speed up the timeline to a critical point: the fielding of a "EuroCorps" of border-patrolmen and a European coast guard. The first international "teams" must begin with their equipment in the islands of the Agean Sea in the first days of April. Under the initial responsibility of Frontex [I assume this is some frontier bureaucracy], without waiting for a political green light.

"It's necessary that each member state take its part in the collective responsibility"

The [legal] validation of this proposal, pushed for months by France and Germany, would be also sped up, with a vote expected in June at the parliament of Strasburg and at the European Council. The new force would be "totally operational in November and thereafter." According to preliminary studies, this European Corps would put into the field permanently the equivalent of 2% of each of nation's current border patrols.

[Wait, this is an emergency wake-up call to divert 2% of each nation's interior border patrols to the exterior?]

...

The main idea is that if you don't stop the migrants from getting a foothold in Europe, individual member states will continue putting up their own old border stops in order to keep them out. If you don't stop them from getting into Greece, Austria will re-impose border checks to keep them from getting into that country. And thus will Schengen simply end.

Anyway, you can see how racist Americans are by observing the far-less-racist behavior of our more enlightened European cousins.

Posted by: Ace at 12:48 PM




Comments

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1 Enforcing borders? The horror!

Posted by: HH at March 02, 2016 12:48 PM (DrCtv)

2 I knew they'd come to their collective mind eventually.

Unfortunately, it may be too late to avoid the extermination camps.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 12:49 PM (bpn7O)

3 ...prepostermous!!!

Posted by: Right Rev. Al Sharpton at March 02, 2016 12:49 PM (INxoa)

4 Crime, mayhem, supporting freeholders, and rape will do that to ya

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 12:50 PM (DUoqb)

5 If you build it, they will come

Posted by: Shoeless Joe at March 02, 2016 12:50 PM (AGJqR)

6 Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 12:49 PM (bpn7O)

Unfortunately, you are probably correct.

Posted by: HH at March 02, 2016 12:50 PM (DrCtv)

7 ...duhhhhhhhhhhh, what???

Posted by: GOPe at March 02, 2016 12:50 PM (INxoa)

8 Racists!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 12:50 PM (oVJmc)

9 Racist...amirite?

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 02, 2016 12:50 PM (gxIP7)

10 Silly Ace: It doesn't count as "racist" unless the United States does it.

Posted by: Pope Francis at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (pyd3d)

11 The average European would like a lot more than just a wall in the south. Ask a Brit or a French person what they think of Poles, or the Roma.

Given what birth rates Europe is already doomed. White liberal guilt and a welfare state did what the Muslim horde could never do with their armies.

Posted by: brak at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (MJuTN)

12

Kkk

Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (a33AZ)

13 I've been saying for years w need a wall around California and New York.

Posted by: Shiggz at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (G7wcY)

14 I knew they'd come to their collective mind eventually.


Eh...don't hold your breath.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (d1RNN)

15 Europe is nothing but California with a 1500 year head start.

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (xrQd1)

16 Unfortunately, it may be too late to avoid the extermination camps.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 12:49 PM (bpn7O)


????

What the hell does that mean?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (DUoqb)

17 Trump was ahead of the curve.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (0LHZx)

18 Trumpsplaining

Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (a33AZ)

19 What they need is a Charles Martel or Jan Sobieski. Heck, maybe even a Vlad the impaler. And didn't Hadrian build a wall? How did that work out?

Posted by: Eromero at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (zLDYs)

20 It'll never work.

Posted by: John McVain at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (pyd3d)

21 But we received engraved invitations from Mrs Merkel!

Posted by: mohamadens everywhere at March 02, 2016 12:52 PM (fbovC)

22 Ok will they have catapults?!

I want catapults!

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 02, 2016 12:52 PM (gxIP7)

23 I've been saying for years w need a wall around California and New York.
Posted by: Shiggz at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (G7wcY)


Well it does keep me employed

Posted by: Snake Plistkin at March 02, 2016 12:52 PM (DUoqb)

24 Will the wall come with Footbaths?

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2016 12:52 PM (xrQd1)

25 Before we block migrants let's first try to figure out how they'll vote.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 02, 2016 12:52 PM (pyd3d)

26 Too little too late for Europe. There are enough muslims there that even if you built a 100 foot tall wall and no new muslim entered Europe, the birthrate of muslims = majority muslim continent within 2-3 generations.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (0LHZx)

27 maybe they'll self deport.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (gxIP7)

28 Oy vey!

Posted by: Israel at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (NF2Bf)

29 Can you get Bacon Razor Wire?

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (xrQd1)

30 Same principle should apply here. If the feds won't protect our borders, the states will eventually protect themselves.

Posted by: Global Warming made Hillary a feeble, elderly drunk at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (T1Jm0)

31 We are great wis building impenetrable barriers. Zis will be, how you say, "a piece of cake?"


**begins building Maginot Line II**

Posted by: France at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (H9MG5)

32 We don't need no education....

Posted by: eleven at March 02, 2016 12:54 PM (qUNWi)

33 I've been saying for years w need a wall around California and New York.
Posted by: Shiggz at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (G7wcY)


-----------------


And make them pay for it.

Posted by: Soona at March 02, 2016 12:54 PM (Fmupd)

34 29 Can you get Bacon Razor Wire?

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (xrQd1)

genius...extra crispy please.

Posted by: Badda Bing at March 02, 2016 12:54 PM (gxIP7)

35 Mexicos southern border is impregnable. Fucking impregnable!

Posted by: Vicente Fox at March 02, 2016 12:54 PM (nckx1)

36 Eventually the left in Israel got silenced by reality to. Maybe there is good for the West

Posted by: Shiggz at March 02, 2016 12:55 PM (G7wcY)

37 30 Same principle should apply here. If the feds won't protect our borders, the states will eventually protect themselves.
Posted by: Global Warming made Hillary a feeble, elderly drunk at March 02, 2016 12:53 PM (T1Jm0)

Yeah, about that....no!

Posted by: SCOTUS at March 02, 2016 12:55 PM (0LHZx)

38 Fifty feet high or just forty-eight?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 12:55 PM (LA7Cm)

39 Funny how all the hoity-toity, looking-down-your-nose BS stops when your wimmens start getting raped and beaten by the invading horde.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 12:56 PM (2PHKP)

40 Same principle should apply here. If the feds won't protect our borders, the states will eventually protect themselves.

Posted by: Global Warming made


Except the SCOTUS has all but erased the 10th Amd.

Posted by: weft cut-loop1 at March 02, 2016 12:56 PM (A/3fN)

41 Why build a wall?

Turn them around when they come on the boats under threat of force. Yes, shoot them if they fail to stop. Only have to do it a couple of times.

The rest of it, maybe just don't invite them? Shut the border checkpoints and stop inviting economic refugees.

It's apparently too much to ask to shut down the welfare state, so you have to cut the entrance.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 12:56 PM (iQr18)

42 Camel's nose + tent.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 12:56 PM (FsuaD)

43 Can you get Bacon Razor Wire?

Don't forget about us!

Posted by: Border Patrol Pigs at March 02, 2016 12:57 PM (NF2Bf)

44 Eventually the left in Israel got silenced by reality to. Maybe there is good for the West
Posted by: Shiggz at March 02, 2016 12:55 PM (G7wcY)

Not so sure about that. What happened is the "Left" is not as big in Israel and sane people left the left for the middle and right. They got out voted. But there is still a vocal and small left there.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 12:57 PM (DUoqb)

45 " ... build up the border ... if they wish
to keep ... free-circulation-of-people-in-Europe alive. "

In other words, without uttering a single word acknowledging that these immigrants ARE A SERIOUS PROBLEM, they propose walling them out and controlling their ingress into the Magical European Experience.

To paraphrase John Cleese in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I hereby snark mightily to all smarmy EU inhabitants, " I guffaw in your general direction!"

Fucking hypocrites.

Posted by: Steamboat McGoo at March 02, 2016 12:57 PM (RK1ZH)

46 Meanwhile, the Obozo administration yesterday told discontent Border Patrol agents that if they didn't like Obozo's policies, they should find another job.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 12:57 PM (Nwg0u)

47 Construire le mur!

Posted by: la zombie at March 02, 2016 12:57 PM (jBuUi)

48 The rest of it, maybe just don't invite them? Shut the border checkpoints and stop inviting economic refugees.

____

When there are 100,000 people at those checkpoints, how do you stop them without a physical barrier?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 12:57 PM (0LHZx)

49 Within a few years, the Europeans will begin to realize that they've invited in a population that out-breeds it at a 4-to-1 rate, has no interest in assimilating, and is actively hostile to European decadence.

They can go two ways: Accept Eurabia, or fight.

I expect they'll fight.

What form will the fight take?

Well, I can easily see the French, for example, revoking citizenship and deporting. The Germans? Well, there's history there, isn't there. Italy will surrender. Switzerland will remain well-armed and aloof.

Etc.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 12:58 PM (bpn7O)

50 Who knew that importing millions of savages into your midst would be such a problem?

Posted by: Make America Great Again at March 02, 2016 12:58 PM (LXJ1e)

51 Yeah, about that....no!

Posted by: SCOTUS at March 02, 2016 12:55 PM (0LHZx)


I think Obama has proven that if someone wants something bad enough, the Constitution and Supreme Court can't stop it.

Posted by: Global Warming made Hillary an elderly drunk at March 02, 2016 12:58 PM (T1Jm0)

52 Germany is open for business! - A. Merkel.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...fuck that noise. - Germany

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 12:58 PM (2PHKP)

53

Fifty feet high or just forty-eight?


With a 220-volt line attached to it, who cares?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (LUgeY)

54 Why build a wall?
Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 12:56 PM (iQr1

You build a wall because you do NOT have the manpower to police the whole border. Walls funnel illegals into more narrowly controllable gateways.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (DUoqb)

55 Before we block migrants let's first try to figure out how they'll vote.

One of Mr. Radish's friends thinks that's why the SPD (hard-core pinko party) keeps calling for more, more, more! Friend grew up in Communist Poland, I trust his experience with pinkos.

Interestingly, SPD's usual buddies the Greens would like fewer, they actually believe their "sustainability" crap.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (d1RNN)

56 Any solution which fails to address the real problem--Islam--is doomed to failure.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (AroJD)

57 They have to stop them at the islands from entering mainland Europe. This will include Italy with their island next to Africa. Greece AND Italy have been funneling them into mainland Europe like nobodies business. Deny the ferries landing rights if need be. Greece is already doing this to some extent because if they ferry them in they are going to be stuck in Greece. The Balkans are sick of it. So is Austria. The same should go for Italy. And Spain if it comes to that. They have to move the choke-hold to Turkey who will stop it if THEY are overrun.

Posted by: Lester at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (2UPXV)

58 " Funny how all the hoity-toity, looking-down-your-nose BS stops when your wimmens start getting raped and beaten by the invading horde. "


I believe they honest-to-God thought that they could westernize and "educate" these people. It's insane on it's face but the self-hate is strong.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (LA7Cm)

59 The ship of state is leaking and threatening to founder. Shall we seal the holes and bail (deport)?

Nien!! That is not who we are. That is not our values. Open the draincocks to the sea in an act of love.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (JO9+V)

60 When there are 100,000 people at those checkpoints, how do you stop them without a physical barrier?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 12:57 PM (0LHZx)
With guns, and the will to fire them. I really don't understand this. They don't have a right to enter. If they force their way in, shoot them. Again, you only have to do it a couple of times before most people get the point.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (iQr18)

61 That doesn't sound much like an act of love.

Posted by: Jeb at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (NF2Bf)

62 What?! Another progressive policy failure?! When does the superior moral and intellectual aspect of progressivism kick in?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (Nwg0u)

63 It hard to hear the wake-up call when you have been drugged into sleep.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (FkBIv)

64 56
Any solution which fails to address the real problem--Islam--is doomed to failure.


Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (AroJD)

When you've come up with a solution, please let the world leaders know.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (2PHKP)

65 "With a 220-volt line attached to it, who cares?"


Kinky.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (LA7Cm)

66 >>>What the hell does that mean?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 12:51 PM (DUoqb)

***

That Europeans have a long history of being brutal.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 01:01 PM (bpn7O)

67 So we have people here advocating extermination camps and machine gunning people at the borders?

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:01 PM (DUoqb)

68 People give Trump credit for wanting to close the border but it has been Sessions all along sounding the alarm for years. Trump never cared about the borders until he hooked up with Sessions.

Posted by: tops at March 02, 2016 01:01 PM (p5xLT)

69 When there are 100,000 people at those checkpoints, how do you stop them without a physical barrier?>>>

Snipers? Oh wait this isn't the art thread.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 02, 2016 01:01 PM (XtAzU)

70 You don't even need a wall.

Instead, you could solve several problems at once:

All the white trash trailer-park rednecks out of work and on welfare can be offered government jobs to just sit in folding lawn chairs spaced even about every 50 feet along the US Mexico border, each with a shotgun across their lap, a bullhorn, and a six-pack on the ground next to them.

Result?

Illegal immigration reduced to zero, fewer people on welfare, and unemployment goes down!

Posted by: zombie at March 02, 2016 01:02 PM (jBuUi)

71 Can't help but wonder how much of this is related to our bearing the burden of defending their asses after WWII.

They turned their countries into socialist playgrounds on our dime, and now have decided that one big super-state is a winning thing.


Posted by: weft cut-loop1 at March 02, 2016 01:02 PM (A/3fN)

72 Just builds a several hundred mile long pig pen.

Done.

Next!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 02, 2016 01:02 PM (kTF2Z)

73 I believe they honest-to-God thought that they could
westernize and "educate" these people. It's insane on it's face but
the self-hate is strong.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (LA7Cm)

It's not impossible though. If I recall correctly, Pauly Shore was able to finally westernize Brendan Fraser in Encino Man.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:03 PM (2PHKP)

74 O/T Shouldn't the polar bear in the sidebar be drowning right now?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 02, 2016 01:03 PM (FsuaD)

75 There is the point in many action movies when the babbling do-nothing that has been dominating everything by his talk suddenly gets punched in the jaw by the man of action.

We may be witnessing western societies getting to that point.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - See The Outrage Outlet's specials in the weekly Firing Squad Circular! at March 02, 2016 01:03 PM (hLRSq)

76 I'll make Mexico pay for France's wall too. Fuck Mexico.

Posted by: Donald Trump at March 02, 2016 01:03 PM (8ZskC)

77
All the white trash trailer-park rednecks out of
work and on welfare can be offered government jobs to just sit in
folding lawn chairs spaced even about every 50 feet along the US Mexico
border, each with a shotgun across their lap, a bullhorn, and a six-pack
on the ground next to them.



Result?



Illegal immigration reduced to zero, fewer people on welfare, and unemployment goes down!

Posted by: zombie at March 02, 2016 01:02 PM (jBuUi)


And then we move the border to be juuuuust behind them ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:03 PM (oKE6c)

78 We're not building a wall, we're building a safe space.

Posted by: reality to SJW dictionary at March 02, 2016 01:03 PM (H9MG5)

79 Instead of building a wall what they need to do is cut off all benefits to new immigrants for a minimum of 5 years, 3 of which must be spent working and paying taxes.


They will all leave on their own then. They didn't flood Europe looking for freedom. They were looking for free shit and they openly admitted it.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (t2KH5)

80 With guns, and the will to fire them. I really don't understand this. They don't have a right to enter. If they force their way in, shoot them. Again, you only have to do it a couple of times before most people get the point.
Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:00 PM (iQr1

___

Come on, that's unrealistic. They're not going to start mowing down people at the border.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (0LHZx)

81 The Germans? Well, there's history there, isn't there.

And it's history, and it's long dead.

You're forgetting the Marshall Plan, which included social engineering to--and I quote loosely from a 1940s US Army pamphlet that was on display in a museum exhibition we saw last month--"ensure Germans would never again take up arms." It worked. It worked too well--they're not just not interested in taking over France, they're not even interested in self-defense anymore.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (d1RNN)

82 >>>Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:01 PM (DUoqb)

***

I don't think anyone here is advocating. It's what I expect, however.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (bpn7O)

83 Is this where Wayne Newton sings 'schadenfreude' to the tune of 'Danke Schoen'?

Posted by: Walter Crushchurch at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (DKt5R)

84 41 Why build a wall?

Turn them around when they come on the boats under threat of force. Yes, shoot them if they fail to stop. Only have to do it a couple of times.

**********

That's how those two Cubans running against me got here!

But come on shooting people in boats!?

Even I'm opposed to that one --Ted was probably sort of cute when he was a kid!

Posted by: Donald Trump at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (mcm0N)

85 The EU migration minister (Greek) presaged this a few days ago in a statement - almost exactly the same points.


First reaction. Duh - ya think? Lessee, leave the exterior perimeter of a customs union/borderless visa area wide open, observe a mass influx of illegals, then panic that your internal arrangements are unsustainable.


Top men at work there in Europe, I tells ya. Top men.


Second, now ace, if only you read your own blog's comments sections, you'd have learned that 1) border barriers "don't work" 2) mass lawlessness immigration is no big deal, I mean, most of the people come to work hard 3) no worries, mate, they all quickly mainstream towards centrist politics very quickly, so relax and let the kids and grand-kids of the illegals become Ward Cleavers.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2016 01:05 PM (QDnY+)

86 They were looking for free shit and they openly admitted it.

The guy Levant interviews around the ten minute mark here was interesting.
http://www.therebel.media/special_report_inside_malmo

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:05 PM (d1RNN)

87 >>>They turned their countries into socialist playgrounds on our dime, and now have decided that one big super-state is a winning thing.


Posted by: weft cut-loop1 at March 02, 2016 01:02 PM (A/3fN)

***

Irony is, indeed, ... ironical.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 01:05 PM (bpn7O)

88 Has anyone consulted the Pope ?

Posted by: jsg at March 02, 2016 01:05 PM (gs8be)

89 There is the point in many action movies when the babbling do-nothing that has been dominating everything by his talk suddenly gets punched in the jaw by the man of action.

We may be witnessing western societies getting to that point.


Hey babe, I negotiate million dollar deals for breakfast. I think I can handle this Eurotrash.

Posted by: Harry Ellis at March 02, 2016 01:06 PM (NF2Bf)

90 test

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:06 PM (iQr18)

91 And GB is actually considering exiting the EU for these and other reasons. Their currency tanked some as a result (which made me happy since I'll be in London later this month), but it's interesting times in Europe.

Posted by: IC at March 02, 2016 01:06 PM (a0IVu)

92 Has anyone consulted the Pope ?
Posted by: jsg at March 02, 2016 01:05 PM (gs8be)

They tried but he is walled up in the Vatican

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:06 PM (DUoqb)

93 Has anyone consulted the Pope ?>>>

Or his wall architects?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 02, 2016 01:06 PM (XtAzU)

94 I love how liberals freak out over the cost of the wall. I've heard estimates of $10-12B. This is a fucking rounding error for the federal govt. And let's assume that like all govt projects, it goes 300% over budget. That's still $35B. Out of a $17T GDP. It's fucking spare change found in the couch.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:07 PM (0LHZx)

95 This German chalet is totes unacceptable! I'm leaving! - Syrian Refugee

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:07 PM (2PHKP)

96 You're forgetting the Marshall Plan, which included social engineering to--and I quote loosely from a 1940s US Army pamphlet that was on display in a museum exhibition we saw last month--"ensure Germans would never again take up arms." It worked. It worked too well--they're not just not interested in taking over France, they're not even interested in self-defense anymore.

*********

Ya, well two times was enough there Radish!

Putin will be nice to them!

Posted by: Donald Trump at March 02, 2016 01:07 PM (mcm0N)

97 Come on, that's unrealistic. They're not going to start mowing down people at the border.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (0LHZx)
Don't have the will to pull the trigger, eh? Good times. I'd do it, and I'm a Muslim.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:07 PM (iQr18)

98 79 Instead of building a wall what they need to do is cut off all benefits to new immigrants for a minimum of 5 years, 3 of which must be spent working and paying taxes.

They will all leave on their own then. They didn't flood Europe looking for freedom. They were looking for free shit and they openly admitted it.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (t2KH5)



They won't leave; there'll be an explosion of crime. As you pointed out, they're looking for free shit, and the pickings are a lot better in Europe than in Buttfuckistan.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:08 PM (oKE6c)

99 >>>Come on, that's unrealistic. They're not going to start mowing down people at the border.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:04 PM (0LHZx)

***

Of course not! Naval bombardment will keep this problem out of sight, and out of mind.

For the most part.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 01:08 PM (bpn7O)

100 >>That's still $35B. Out of a $17T GDP. It's fucking spare change found in the couch.


The cost of illegal aliens far outreaches the cost of enforcement.

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2016 01:08 PM (xrQd1)

101 21 But we received engraved invitations from Mrs Merkel!
_______________________

Love and kindness require open borders!

Posted by: Hilliary!! at March 02, 2016 01:08 PM (df5V4)

102 Why build just one wall when you can build two for twice the price? - Some bald dude in a Jodi Foster movie.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:08 PM (2PHKP)

103 Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:07 PM (iQr1



Get lost and take your genocide with you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (DUoqb)

104 I believe they honest-to-God thought that they could westernize and "educate" these people. It's insane on it's face but the self-hate is strong.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 12:59 PM (LA7Cm)

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We... as Americans.... with a history of assimilation and tradition of "melting pot" still struggle with issues of assimilation and respect for differing culture.

Europe has no such tradition. Europe has been marred with 900 years of battle and war because of cultural differences.

How the hell did they expect to pull off assimilating a Muzzies horde??

Posted by: fixerupper at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (8XRCm)

105 I believe they honest-to-God thought that they could westernize and
"educate" these people. It's insane on it's face but the self-hate is
strong.


They don't really see them as people, more like homeless pets.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (d1RNN)

106 >>the pickings are a lot better in Europe than in Buttfuckistan.


Buttfuckistan is beautiful in the Fall.

Posted by: Barackhenaten I at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (xrQd1)

107 I love how liberals freak out over the cost of the wall. I've heard
estimates of $10-12B. This is a fucking rounding error for the federal
govt.>>>

At the current rate that's just 10-12 NFL stadiums with leaky roofs.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (XtAzU)

108 End of next week I'm off to the UAE and then to Jordan. From there I go to Cologne, Germany. My hotel in Germany is right around the corner from the train station where all the grabbing and touching happened.

I feel so migratory.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (/tuJf)

109 "With a 220-volt line attached to it, who cares?"

210, 220, whatever it takes.

Posted by: Count de Mr. Mom at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (JO9+V)

110 We're here! Where the white women at?

Posted by: 'Brown People' from Mid East at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (OZmbA)

111 >> Illegal immigration reduced to zero, fewer people on
>> welfare, and unemployment goes down!

"Eduardo?"

"si, Julio."

"Give me that beer can"

"Si."

"Now watch this..."

(throws beer can dead-center between Bubba A and Bubba B)

BLAM!

(Bubba A slumps over. Bubba B goes "Oopsie...")

"NOW RUN LIKE HELL PAST THE DEAD GUY!"

Posted by: JEM at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (o+SC1)

112 I love how liberals freak out over the cost of the wall. I've heard estimates of $10-12B. This is a fucking rounding error for the federal govt. And let's assume that like all govt projects, it goes 300% over budget. That's still $35B. Out of a $17T GDP. It's fucking spare change found in the couch.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:07 PM (0LHZx)

Fun thought experiment: ask a liberal how many miles of sound barriers they think have been erected along highways in the last 8 years.

Where's the bitching about the cost of THAT?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - certified inane at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (xuouz)

113 End of next week I'm off to the UAE and then to Jordan. From there I go to Cologne, Germany. My hotel in Germany is right around the corner from the train station where all the grabbing and touching happened.

I feel so migratory.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (/tuJf)

Take one of them catchers cups with ya

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (DUoqb)

114 Don't have the will to pull the trigger, eh? Good times. I'd do it, and I'm a Muslim.
Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:07 PM (iQr1

----

buh bye.

Not cuz youre a Muslim.

Cuz you called for a killing. Cya.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (8XRCm)

115 It's not a wall that we are missing. We are missing the will to say "NO!" to Islam, Mexico, and the progressive media. Once that happens, all things are possible.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (Nwg0u)

116 FOXNEWS : Mitt Romney to make MAJOR ADDRESS ON 2016 Race tomorrow.

Dickhead just can't stay in his loser hole can he.


Fuck Mitt Romney.

That is all.


Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (UmCLB)

117 I love how liberals freak out over the cost of the wall. I've heard estimates of $10-12B. This is a fucking rounding error for the federal govt. And let's assume that like all govt projects, it goes 300% over budget. That's still $35B. Out of a $17T GDP. It's fucking spare change found in the couch.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo


CA bullet train to nowhere is angling north of $100 blln and not a mile of track has been laid.

When a Leftist brings up costs, the only appropriate reply is to remind them of their calls for bullet trains across the US and kick them in the junk, but mostly kick them in the junk.

Posted by: weft cut-loop1 at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (A/3fN)

118 it's fucking spare change found in the couch.Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo


And cut funding for programs that teach African men to wash their junk after sex?

Posted by: mega machines at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (fbovC)

119 At least the Chinese helped build our railroad tracks. Now it's just come here and get a check.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (2PHKP)

120 Get lost and take your genocide with you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:09 PM (DUoqb)
Ha ha good times. Since I was born in the US, where should I go exactly? Home? I already live there.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (iQr18)

121 Very interested in your observations, Jackstraw.

Posted by: Seems legit at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (xEZkG)

122
71 Can't help but wonder how much of this is related to our bearing the burden of defending their asses after WWII.

They turned their countries into socialist playgrounds on our dime, and now have decided that one big super-state is a winning thing.


Posted by: weft cut-loop1 at March 02, 2016 01:02 PM (A/3fN)


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Reality is a bitch sometimes. Europe has a long history of not doing well with reality.

Posted by: Soona at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (Fmupd)

123 Dickhead just can't stay in his loser hole can he.


Fuck Mitt Romney.

That is all.


Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (UmCLB)

Yup. I thought in 2012 he was a lousy candidate, one of the worst, but a decent guy. NOT anymore. What an asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (DUoqb)

124 You might get some GOP support for a wall if you point out that means fat contracts to cronies to build it.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (oVJmc)

125 You don't need to mow them down at the wall. Just behead the first wave and put their heads on pikes along the wall, and you'll never see a second wave.

Posted by: Kurtz at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (8ZskC)

126 Hey babe, I negotiate million dollar deals for breakfast. I think I can handle this Eurotrash.

Posted by: Harry Ellis at March 02, 2016 01:06 PM (NF2Bf)


Heh

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 02, 2016 01:12 PM (JO9+V)

127 I am a Culturalist... someone who believes that some cultures ARE better than others.

Any reading of history shows this...

The EU is trying to create a European Culture, out of many different cultures...

Problem is that it does not exist yet except in the minds of EU Technocrats.

People will, and should, fight for their own culture (something we Americans are being indoctrinated against).... and I can see the French fighting for French Culture... or the Brits fighting for Brit History and Culture...

I don't see where anyone will throw down over the non existent EU Culture...

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 02, 2016 01:12 PM (RK8AH)

128 Love and kindness require open borders!

Posted by: Hilliary!! at March 02, 2016 01:08 PM (df5V4)


Party at Hillary's!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - See The Outrage Outlet's specials in the weekly Firing Squad Circular! at March 02, 2016 01:12 PM (hLRSq)

129 FOXNEWS : Mitt Romney to make MAJOR ADDRESS ON 2016 Race tomorrow. 

No Mitt. Go away.
Stay away. Take a nap.
You lose, you snooze.

Posted by: mega machines at March 02, 2016 01:12 PM (fbovC)

130 Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (iQr1


And your stupid to boot. Just out of here. Go to some liberal blog where they appreciate types like you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (DUoqb)

131 Too late!

Posted by: Dothraki Horde at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (NF2Bf)

132 Yup. I thought in 2012 he was a lousy candidate, one of the worst, but a decent guy. NOT anymore. What an asshole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (DUoqb)

______

He was a nasty mother fucker in the primaries against Newt. The nice guy image was bullshit.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (0LHZx)

133 116
FOXNEWS : Mitt Romney to make MAJOR ADDRESS ON 2016 Race tomorrow.

He is jumping in the race?
He has found a super duper bombshell in Trump's tax records/school year book/college grades?
He has persuaded one of Trump's ex-wives to tell all?
He is endorsing Rubio (most likely)

Posted by: IC at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (a0IVu)

134 You have nothing to fear allowing another less advanced people to settle within the borders of your empire.

Posted by: The Goths at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (h/uSM)

135 As if it matters. Demographics is destiny... and right now Europe's destiny is controlled by the soon-to-be (1-2 generations) Muslim plurality then eventual majority. And I see the EU dictators are taking advantage of another crisis they helped create to increase their own power - they don't even have to do anything directly - just create an environment where a crisis can occur and exploit it using your control of the media and governmental bureaucracy - no matter the size and scope of the crisis the EU HAS to intervene they say - it's all a matter of whether their power increases a little or a lot.

Posted by: Crump/Truz at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (8EJen)

136 buh bye.



Not cuz youre a Muslim.



Cuz you called for a killing. Cya.

Posted by: fixerupper at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (8XRCm)
Wait, I called for the agents of a sovereign state to execute their national policy against a hypothetical "100,000 strong wall of people"?
You do know that we dropped not only one, but two atomic bombs on Japan right?

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (iQr18)

137 126
You don't need to mow them down at the wall. Just behead the first wave
and put their heads on pikes along the wall, and you'll never see a
second wave.

Posted by: Kurtz at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (8ZskC)

Just heads? Reading History shows a different tactic.

Posted by: Prince Vlad Dracul, the Impaler at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (RK8AH)

138 Hey Ace, can you get rid of this guy advocating murder:

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (iQr1

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (DUoqb)

139 Poor Rubio. It's like his Daddy is having to step in to stop the mean bully Trump from taking his lunch money.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:14 PM (2PHKP)

140 He was a nasty mother fucker in the primaries against Newt. The nice guy image was bullshit.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (0LHZx)


You may be right and I was wrong. Bet ya never thought you'd hear me say that to you ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:14 PM (DUoqb)

141 "I love how liberals freak out over the cost of the wall. I've heard estimates of $10-12B."

I've seen $50-100B quoted.

Bear in mind that the last time I ran the numbers, which was only a short time ago, the officially acknowledged part of the U.S. federal debt was going up by roughly fifty billion dollars PER WEEK.

Posted by: torquewrench at March 02, 2016 01:14 PM (noWW6)

142 And while I'm being honest (it's evening, and I'm into the Starkbier), I think the actual honest-to-God refugees--the Christians from villages that have been fucking wiped out, the Yazidis rescued from actual fucking sex slavery--would actually like to make new lives here and contribute to a society that lets them live and worship more or less as they see fit. Certainly a boost in the numbers of believing Christians would be a big plus for place.

But no one wants to make a distinction here. And some of these poor bastards are having to flee a second time, because the Muslims in the accommodations--both the migrants and the fucking guards what the fuck--are attacking them.

(I hope we can still say fuck.)

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM (d1RNN)

143 Are they finally waking up to the invasion

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM (/D5Lf)

144 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:13 PM (DUoqb)

Whose murder am I advocating, Nevergiveup? You jumped in mid conversation.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM (iQr18)

145 >>Very interested in your observations, Jackstraw.

Pretty curious to see Cologne myself. Last time I was there it was a very nice city. According to my Cologne based customer things are getting very tense.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM (/tuJf)

146 Oh ffs nobody is advocating murder. Some of you are worse than SJW snowflakes on campus.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM (0LHZx)

147 But no one wants to make a distinction here.

Most of us here do

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM (DUoqb)

148 For the first time since 1919 the price of a first class stamp will decline next month.

Posted by: Hillary! at March 02, 2016 01:17 PM (pyd3d)

149 Shouldn't the polar bear in the sidebar be drowning right now?

-
Damn right that white bastard should be.

- The Reverend Al Sharptoon

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:17 PM (Nwg0u)

150 116 FOXNEWS : Mitt Romney to make MAJOR ADDRESS ON 2016 Race tomorrow.

Dickhead just can't stay in his loser hole can he.


Fuck Mitt Romney.

That is all.


Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (UmCLB)


--------------------


Well, isn't this interesting. Wonder what it's going to be. Can't be an endorsement. Everyone knows he's for anybody but Trump or Cruz. Maybe he's endorsing Hillary.

Posted by: Soona at March 02, 2016 01:17 PM (Fmupd)

151 >>When a Leftist brings up costs, the only appropriate reply is
>> to remind them of their calls for bullet trains across the US
>> and kick them in the junk, but mostly kick them in the junk.

Two points on the CA HSR:

a) Once again it's an attempt to remake the Central Valley economy that's historically been ag and small business, badly damaged by Dem water policy. They want to get the voter base out there dependent on government money.

b) There's no such thing as any kind of budget or real understanding of what the thing's going to cost. The original intent was to go south first, but it turns out the tunneling is going to be hugely expensive, so they've decided to go to SF first, on the presumption that once they have something - anything - running, it won't matter what it's going to cost to finish it, no one will stop them.


b)

Posted by: JEM at March 02, 2016 01:17 PM (o+SC1)

152 You don't need to mow them down at the wall. Just behead the first wave

and put their heads on pikes along the wall, and you'll never see a

second wave.



Blonde chicks in football pads manning flamethrowers along the wall work pretty well too, eh Lord Humungus?

Posted by: The Road Warrior at March 02, 2016 01:17 PM (JO9+V)

153
You do know that we dropped not only one, but two atomic bombs on Japan right?
Posted by: flashoverride


That's all we had.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 01:18 PM (FkBIv)

154 When a Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine uses lethal force under lawful conditions, how is that considered murder?

If the national policy of a sovereign nation is to engage interlopers on its borders as threats to national security and engage as such, is that murder?

If I go traipsing into Area 51 and ignore all lawful orders to stop and get shot as a result, did those guards murder me, or did they exercise lawful use of force?

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:18 PM (iQr18)

155 Somebody on autodelete just came out with a good one:

♪ Wall
Ugh
What's it good for
Absolutely nothing ♪

I thought it was funny, anyway.

Posted by: mega machines at March 02, 2016 01:18 PM (fbovC)

156 >>He was a nasty mother fucker in the primaries against Newt. The nice guy image was bullshit.

Newt? You mean the guy who bought a movie that a bunch of liberals put together to slam Romney's business career and then ran it against Romney? That Newt?

Please. I get so tired of this whine that Romney was a big meanie poopie head against his poor opponents who did nothing but throw bouquets of roses. Like Trump does.

It's fucking politics. Butch up or go home.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:19 PM (/tuJf)

157 124 Dickhead just can't stay in his loser hole can he.


Fuck Mitt Romney.

That is all.


Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (UmCLB)

Yup. I thought in 2012 he was a lousy candidate, one of the worst, but a decent guy. NOT anymore. What an asshole
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (DUoqb)


The last four years have really opened my eyes about the Republican Party.

I used to thing George W Bush was a great guy that just got some bad advice. Jeb! fixed that.

McConnell fixed that. We should have supported Grimes.

Posted by: rd at March 02, 2016 01:19 PM (v0YLX)

158
It's fucking politics. Butch up or go home.

Posted by: JackStraw


Copy.

Paste.

Save File.


Posted by: Mortimer at March 02, 2016 01:19 PM (UmCLB)

159 Report: Mitt Romney to deliver major speech on 2016 race tomorrow


Fuck that backstabbing bitch Mittens Rmoney in particular.

Just go away, loser.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 02, 2016 01:19 PM (HMt16)

160
Oh ffs nobody is advocating murder. Some of you are worse than SJW snowflakes on campus.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo


To not surrender is to murder.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 01:19 PM (FkBIv)

161 Problem with our border is that it is riddled with tunnels. The Israelis are working on new technology to detect tunnels so that is promising.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 02, 2016 01:21 PM (iQIUe)

162 Re: FBN Romney will Not endorse anyone in his speech on Thursday but make talk about 'the direction' of the Republican Party.

Expect liberal(pardon the term) use of KKK innuendo to smear Trump , insinuation of Trump tax monsters in the closet, and overall unfitness for Trump as the nominee.

Dondi has friends in high places.



Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at March 02, 2016 01:21 PM (3ZttN)

163 They won't leave; there'll be an explosion of crime. As you pointed out,
they're looking for free shit, and the pickings are a lot better in
Europe than in Buttfuckistan.



The Europe can instigate an old southern Institution called a chain gang. They can work on the roads while a man in mirrored sunglasses watches them with a shotgun,

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (t2KH5)

164 FOXNEWS : Mitt Romney to make MAJOR ADDRESS ON 2016 Race tomorrow.

-
Lemmings of the world, unite!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (Nwg0u)

165 Mitt has the makings of an excellent Vice President

Posted by: Hillary! at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (pyd3d)

166 Posted by: JEM at March 02, 2016 01:17 PM (o+SC1)

Actually... it won't help the Central Valley at all...


All we'll do is see Trains going past sort of fast...




Posted by: Don Quixote at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (RK8AH)

167
That's all we had.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 01:18 PM (FkBIv)
Oh I know, but it saved a ground invasion that would have cost millions of lives and dragged on for years. Once or twice was enough. It's like ripping off the band-aid all at once or dragging it out. Same reason Sherman burned his way to the coast - win as quickly as possible by breaking the enemy's will to fight. It's the most humane way.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (iQr18)

168 115 It's not a wall that we are missing. We are missing the will to say "NO!" to Islam, Mexico, and the progressive media. Once that happens, all things are possible.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:10 PM (Nwg0u)



Actually, just sort out the progressive (read: Communist-infested) media, and the rest will come right on its own.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (oKE6c)

169

They don't really see them as people, more like homeless pets.

Yep. Leg-humping, rabid pets who do nothing but shit all over the inside of the house all day long.

Who wouldn't want a houseful of them?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (LUgeY)

170 Instead of putting the refugees on ferries to transport them to mainland Greece, now that Macedonia has closed their border with Greece, the Greeks should load them on C-130s and fly them directly to Germany. All the countries in between Greece and Germany will probably be happy to pay for the fuel and maintenance.


As soon as the Germans refuse to accept a plane load of refugees, fly them to Ethiopia and let the Ethiopians dump them over the border into Somalia.


What do you want to bet that shortly after the first time that happens, the flow of refugees shrinks to a trickle. Then the Europeans can start trying to clean up the mess that Frau Merkel made.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at March 02, 2016 01:23 PM (jCgo+)

171 "Fuck that backstabbing bitch Mittens Rmoney in particular.

Just go away, loser."




Here, here....

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 01:23 PM (LA7Cm)

172 143
Are they finally waking up to the invasion

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM

They are running out of money. Literally. The migrants are eating them out of house and home. The housing, medical and education costs are astronomical. They thought they could just teach them some German and they would go to work. But first they have to teach them how to read. At ages 25 to 50 it doesn't work so well. None of them (or a very tiny percentage) meets the criteria for training of any kind so they are unemployable. The women do not work outside the home. EVER. So they get an unemployable guy with 8 dependents. And this is the nice ones. The bad ones are gangsters and ISIS.

Posted by: Lester at March 02, 2016 01:23 PM (2UPXV)

173 >> Same reason Sherman burned his way to the coast - win as quickly as possible by breaking the enemy's will to fight. It's the most humane way.



Oh, Fuck.

Now you've gone and done it...

Posted by: garrett at March 02, 2016 01:23 PM (xrQd1)

174
That's all we had.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at March 02, 2016 01:18 PM (FkBIv)

To add to that, we didn't have any more assembled, but were capable of doing that in short order, as we had the fissionable materials and production facility at standby if Japan still refused to surrender.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:24 PM (2PHKP)

175 This movie was made 20 years ago...Idaho trying to wall off from the rest of the US importing refuges from Mideast (and Mexico)....several more parts on YouTube..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGKBfew6hSU

Posted by: colin at March 02, 2016 01:24 PM (og1C6)

176 >>Somebody on autodelete just came out with a good one:



Wall

Ugh

What's it good for

Absolutely nothing


I thought it was funny, anyway.

Posted by: mega machines at March 02, 2016 01:18 PM (fbovC)<<<



Yeah, looks like TBH3K got that post? Not sure why? My posts from earlier are still there.



I know they weren't the best of song lyrics, but still... **sniff**

Posted by: confused crappy song writer at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (H9MG5)

177 This election can't get any weirder, I thought.

FOXNEWS : Mitt Romney to make MAJOR ADDRESS ON 2016 Race tomorrow.


I thought wrong.

Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (pyd3d)

178 But no one wants to make a distinction here.



Most of us here do

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 02, 2016 01:15 PM (DUoqb)

I meant "here" as in "Germany", sorry sir.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (d1RNN)

179 Build a wall huh.


http://tinyurl.com/ly3ohoq


*I can't be the only one who thought of that scene

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (/D5Lf)

180 Romney will Not endorse anyone in his speech on Thursday but make talk about 'the direction' of the Republican Party.

-
Remember how the Donks said we Republicans would sell out our country for the almighty dollar? Well, they were right! Republicans today, Republicans tomorrow, Republicans forever!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (Nwg0u)

181
Okay, not a wall, exactly. But a new report, the Juncker report, went out today telling all the capitals of Europe that they must move expeditiously to build up the border on the exterior of the European Union, if they wish to keep the Schengen free-circulation-of-people-in-Europe alive.


I look forward to Pope Frankie Fabulous' condemnation of these un-Christian acts.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (X6fMO)

182 I wish Romney would shut up. People have the right to vote for who ever they want to vote for without people plotting against them. Do these people have any idea how creepy they come across?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (iQIUe)

183 They don't really see them as people, more like homeless pets



But not ALL rattlesnakes have bitten people! Most of them are nice, so don't start that "all rattlesnakes are bad" bullshit. I've seen some, and they never bit me. And besides, they have that beautiful diamond-pattern on their backs!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:26 PM (oKE6c)

184 164
FOXNEWS : Mitt Romney to make MAJOR ADDRESS ON 2016 Race tomorrow.


Lemmings of the world, unite!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM

Can we hope that the Romney clan are going BACK to Mexico if The Donald is elected?

Posted by: Lester at March 02, 2016 01:26 PM (2UPXV)

185 They won't leave; there'll be an explosion of crime. As you pointed out, they're looking for free shit, and the pickings are a lot better in Europe than in Buttfuckistan.

Same here

Posted by: Goatfuckistan at March 02, 2016 01:26 PM (XkVXQ)

186 Are we going to fight the War of 2012 all over again? I hope not.

Posted by: mrp at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (JBggj)

187 "but make talk about 'the direction' of the Republican Party. "


Speaking to the choir. Just noise to make D.C. feel better for a little bit.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (LA7Cm)

188 "Do these people have any idea how creepy they come across? "

They see their influence slipping away. They see the gravy train coming to a stop.

Gotta try and stop it.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (WVsWD)

189 One day, you guys will come running to me like those Olympic folks did. - Mittens

Hello, Mittens? - GOPe

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (2PHKP)

190 HR @ 142 should be read and read again.


It's so sickening. There *are* "refugees" fleeing to Europe (or really, "asylees" seeking asylum), under common sense and actual definitions of the term.


Most of them, probably, are Christians or other religious minorities. But they are caught up in a new sort of hell in their European exile. Hostile you-know-who's and clueless Europeans who either don't stop them or actually join them.


And Lester made some key practical points up above. Turkey is the key to all this. It is, and has been, the choke-point (or open faucet) that controls most of these flows (not all). Thus the pathetic cup-in-hand begging mission of Merkel to the new calip in Istanbul last year.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (QDnY+)

191 If your idea of border security is limited to the border itself then yeah, you need guns on the border, even a wall is useless without the guns to back it up. Now if we went after the real problem, the assholes hiring illegals so they can profit off slave labor, neither a wall or guns would be needed.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 02, 2016 01:28 PM (yos+4)

192 Hah. Europe is getting schlenged.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2016 01:28 PM (8ZskC)

193 I can't be the only one who thought of that scene

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 01:25 PM (/D5Lf)
"Fixed Fortifications are a monument to man's stupidity" - Patton

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:29 PM (iQr18)

194 Vote Rombley! This time his binders full of women are in a database!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:29 PM (Nwg0u)

195 maybe this could become a tradition, for losing candidates to intrude in the next election.

But why limit it to politics! Maybe Russell Wilson should have made a speech before the 2016 Super Bowl, or, next year, Cam Newton can "give an address".

Or how about business? Maybe Marissa Mayer has a few things to say to Google on the subject of Yahoo search . . .

Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 01:29 PM (pyd3d)

196 Please. I get so tired of this whine that Romney was a big meanie poopie head against his poor opponents who did nothing but throw bouquets of roses. Like Trump does.

It's fucking politics. Butch up or go home.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:19 PM (/tuJf)

_____

Romney was a nasty asshole. Which is fine, since it's politics.

But at the same time let's stop the "Mitt is a good man, blah blah" bullshit. He's not a good man. He's a ruthless SOB.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at March 02, 2016 01:29 PM (0LHZx)

197 "Do these people have any idea how creepy they come across? "


Clearly, no.

They think the base hasn't been chastised enough, has gotten confused, and, needs to be wrist-slapped for acting out against their GOPe betters in D.C.

A strong tongue-lashing from the last loser should be just the ticket.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at March 02, 2016 01:29 PM (LA7Cm)

198

But not ALL rattlesnakes have bitten people! Most of them are nice, so don't start that "all rattlesnakes are bad" bullshit. I've seen some, and they never bit me. And besides, they have that beautiful diamond-pattern on their backs!

That just screams for this song -

Not Al Wilson, but the great Johnny Rivers -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4F9TzOwV4

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 02, 2016 01:30 PM (LUgeY)

199 Do they really mean it, or is this just a PR move to keep European citizens from totally freaking out and the UK from exiting the EU?

Not like we've never been promised a border wall here in the U.S. (virtual or otherwise) as some sort of "comprehensive immigration reform" knowing full-well that they have no intention of ever getting around to any sort of wall.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 01:30 PM (NOIQH)

200 BACK BITCHEZ

Posted by: ORCA 2 at March 02, 2016 01:30 PM (UmCLB)

201 Go away, Dondi. Nobody wants you.

Posted by: Soona at March 02, 2016 01:30 PM (Fmupd)

202 Wow, so leftists and socialists in the EU have come to the perfectly logical conclusion that their Utopia(tm) cannot long survive a mass influx of people for whom western traditions, laws and sensitivities (and hygiene) are utterly foreign concepts.

Why, it's almost like everyone on earth has the option - nay, the obligation - to protect their own border except the USA.

Because racism, and shut up! That's why.

Posted by: DocJ at March 02, 2016 01:31 PM (zrsn3)

203 >>> but make talk about 'the direction' of the Republican Party.

Dammit

We keep disappointing Our Betters.

Hopefully, we'll let Romney be clear at least.

Posted by: Bigby's Farmhand at March 02, 2016 01:31 PM (3ZtZW)

204 I get so tired of this whine that Romney was a big meanie poopie head against his poor opponents who did nothing but throw bouquets of roses.

I thought the knock on R-Money 2012 is that he had TFG on the ropes after the first debate and then stopped attacking, not that he was a big meanie.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 02, 2016 01:31 PM (KUTP5)

205 Posted on a willowed thread but pertinent here.



720 NATO Commander: Russia uses Syrian refugees as 'weapon' against West


http://tinyurl.com/hm47akt



'Together, Russia and the Assad regime are deliberately weaponizing migration in an attempt to overwhelm European structures and break European resolve,' Breedlove told the Senate Armed Services Committee.



Can we call it what it is now. An invasion.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 11:17 AM (/D5Lf)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (/D5Lf)

206 All the white trash trailer-park rednecks out of
work and on welfare can be offered government jobs to just sit in
folding lawn chairs spaced even about every 50 feet along the US Mexico
border, each with a shotgun across their lap, a bullhorn, and a six-pack
on the ground next to them.



Result?



Illegal immigration reduced to zero, fewer people on welfare, and unemployment goes down!

Posted by: zombie at March 02, 2016 01:02 PM

That is happening right now in Austria and Bulgaria. Shotgun sales way up. But they sit on logs or giant cheese wheels or something out in the woods instead of folding lawn chairs. The Bulgarian rednecks also chase them on four wheelers then turn the migrants into the cops who beat them up and rob them before kicking them back to Turkey.

Posted by: Lester at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (2UPXV)

207 But not ALL rattlesnakes have bitten people! Most of them are nice, so don't start that "all rattlesnakes are bad" bullshit. I've seen some, and they never bit me. And besides, they have that beautiful diamond-pattern on their backs!
That just screams for this song -
Not Al Wilson, but the great Johnny Rivers -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4F9TzOwV4
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 02, 2016 01:30 PM (LUgeY)



Good call.


And a lesson unheeded.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (oKE6c)

208 If you're going to build a wall to keep rapists and drug dealers out there's only one product to use : Trump Stone.

Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (TJCSB)

209 Most of them, probably, are Christians or other religious minorities.



Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (QDnY+)


The facts on the ground are different.

The vast majority who have entered Europe looking for "Asylum" are young Moslem Adult Males.

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (RK8AH)

210 two hundred and eleventy!

Posted by: Willy at March 02, 2016 01:33 PM (ersJc)

211 Thank you, Mitt Romney, for re-uniting NEARLY all of the Moron Horde for one, brief shining moment!

Posted by: mrp at March 02, 2016 01:33 PM (JBggj)

212 190 Most of them, probably, are Christians or other
religious minorities. But they are caught up in a new sort of hell in
their European exile. Hostile you-know-who's and clueless Europeans
who either don't stop them or actually join them.





And Lester made some key practical points up above. Turkey is the
key to all this. It is, and has been, the choke-point (or open faucet)
that controls most of these flows (not all). Thus the pathetic
cup-in-hand begging mission of Merkel to the new calip in Istanbul last
year.







Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (QDnY+)

Only 3 out of every 100 are Christians. The overwhelming majority are muzzies who have been holed up in Turkey for years. They are not from Syria escaping the war. But you will only see that in the foreign press.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 02, 2016 01:33 PM (t2KH5)

213 @142

Bravo. Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

That is all.

Posted by: DocJ at March 02, 2016 01:33 PM (zrsn3)

214 >>I thought the knock on R-Money 2012 is that he had TFG on the ropes after the first debate and then stopped attacking, not that he was a big meanie.

Point.

>Romney was a nasty asshole. Which is fine, since it's politics.

>But at the same time let's stop the "Mitt is a good man, blah blah" bullshit. He's not a good man. He's a ruthless SOB.

Counterpoint.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:34 PM (/tuJf)

215 196 Romney was a nasty asshole.
---------------------------------------

Where do you get these crazy ideas? I guess I remember Romney as way too polite for that campaign. He was tougher on Republicans, and maybe thats what you mean, than he was to TFG or Crowley.

Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 01:34 PM (pyd3d)

216 That is happening right now in Austria and Bulgaria. Shotgun sales way up. But they sit on logs or giant cheese wheels or something out in the woods instead of folding lawn chairs. The Bulgarian rednecks also chase them on four wheelers then turn the migrants into the cops who beat them up and rob them before kicking them back to Turkey.



Still not seeing the problem.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 02, 2016 01:34 PM (+058L)

217 So they get an unemployable guy with 8 dependents. And this is the nice ones. The bad ones are gangsters and ISIS.

As a condition of my lawful presence here I'm required to attend an integration course (and my husband pays for it; other versions of the course are offered to "migrants" at no cost to themselves). Some bleeding-heads from some group that provides social/legal/financial help to "migrants" came in yesterday to give us flyers.

And this truck driving guy from Bosnia just went OFF on them about how his neighbor who doesn't do a single hour of work gets to collect 4x as much "social money" as he gets paid for driving, which he can only do part-time as he's legally required to take this course, which he has to pay for. And he can't afford vocational schooling for his daughters on his part-time work so they're stuck working menial jobs, but these jerks just walking across the border get the course free, they get vocational training free, they get food and housing and everything free. It was kind of beautiful but mostly sad.

(The bleeding-heads just bobbled and told him to have his daughters come to their office to see if they qualify for anything. I don't know what else they'd say, really.)

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:34 PM (d1RNN)

218 "That is, if you want to keep having no borders within the Union, you need to build up the fences and interdiction efforts at its frontiers."

You mean, like, securing the external borders against illegal entry by non-citizens, so that there can be easy, unrestricted internal movement for citizens and legal immigrants? What a notion!

Posted by: Stu-22 at March 02, 2016 01:35 PM (RMOpc)

219 Immigration is one of those problems where it's just turtles all the way down.

http://tinyurl.com/jnml699

Can't tell immediately which way he was going and if it was pets, aphrodisiacs or lunch?

Posted by: DaveA aka MrObviousJoke at March 02, 2016 01:35 PM (DL2i+)

220 In France they tried to give them better, warmer, hygenic housing and asylum in exchange for a finger print and they rioted.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 02, 2016 01:35 PM (iQIUe)

221 So wow....Bill Kristol is laying out a strategy to stop Trump at the convention, basically burning the party to the ground and handing Billary back the keys to the White House, because Fuck Trump!.

They are really willing to start a revolt over Trump.

John Nolte points out that this level of brow scrunching never came to mind when Obama needed stopped. Proving either that the GOPe is Obama, or the GOPe only takes up arms if it's safe not to be called RACIST!


Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:35 PM (2PHKP)

222 Didn't Stuart Stevens endorse Hillary Clinton recently? Maybe Romney is still following the lead of his campaign strategist. It worked out so well the last time . . .

Posted by: MTF at March 02, 2016 01:35 PM (pyd3d)

223 obnoxious a-hole @170, nicely done.


Actually, a version of this has been happening since the outset. Countries along the path in through SE Europe expedited passage of the flow to Germany - "you want 'em, here they come!".


But of course the German tank has been filling up and experiencing problems (HR pls confirm, but I believe local/state authorities in parts of Germany have been refusing new arrivals and "deporting" some across state/lander lines, recall some busloads being sent from Munich to Berlin). So now the pipeline is backed up, a disaster, esp. in Greece.


Have no feel for Italian politics or sensibility on this, but they've been dealing with fairly large illegal mass migration for some time (esp. the south, mostly from Albania). Can't imagine most of Italy, esp. northerners, are particularly happy about the situation.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2016 01:36 PM (QDnY+)

224 Sorrrrrrrrrrry!! Europe is closed for two generations for renovation and repairs. Hyuck hyuck!

Posted by: Marty Moose at March 02, 2016 01:36 PM (JO9+V)

225 If your idea of border security is limited to the
border itself then yeah, you need guns on the border, even a wall is
useless without the guns to back it up. Now if we went after the real
problem, the assholes hiring illegals so they can profit off slave
labor, neither a wall or guns would be needed.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 02, 2016 01:28 PM



You are 100% correct.

Posted by: feel the Bern at March 02, 2016 01:36 PM (NSb9d)

226 The Israeli wall (it's mostly fence) was made with pali concrete owned by arafat's brother who made millions from it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at March 02, 2016 01:37 PM (iQIUe)

227 Who knew people weren't too keen on gang rape, and mass murder?

Posted by: NotCoach at March 02, 2016 01:37 PM (rsudF)

228 Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a pull a Rombley out of my hat!

- GOPe Bullwinkle

Posted by: The Great White Snark at March 02, 2016 01:37 PM (Nwg0u)

229 As a condition of my lawful presence here I'm required to attend an integration course (and my husband pays for it; other versions of the course are offered to "migrants" at no cost to themselves).

Neugierig.

What's the language proficiency of the people taking the course with you? I assume it's conducted in German?

How linguistically assimilated are your classmates?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 02, 2016 01:37 PM (1xUj/)

230 Our Mittens knew how to attack the RIGHT people.

Posted by: The GOPe at March 02, 2016 01:38 PM (zv81W)

231 The second is of Saad Alsaud, reported to have been the fastest 14-year-old in Sweden, dwarfing schoolboys and girls as they join him for a run.


http://tinyurl.com/zs39fkg


still funny

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 01:38 PM (/D5Lf)

232 The problem with Romney was that he was meaner to his GOP opponents than to Obama. If the guy who came out swinging during the first Romney/Obama debate stuck around for the entire race, he might have won.

So very tired of the GOPe people being harder on conservatives like Cruz than Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc. It's a recurring pattern, which has gone a long way toward making Trump palatable to many. If Romney's big announcement is to get angry GOP voters/conservatives back on the reservation, such as a plea to vote for Rubio, it will not work.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 01:38 PM (NOIQH)

233 Most of them, probably, are Christians or other religious
minorities. But they are caught up in a new sort of hell in their
European exile. Hostile you-know-who's and clueless Europeans who
either don't stop them or actually join them.


I wouldn't say "most." 10-15%. But, yes, how they're being treated is sickening.

...and there's at least one city that built a special building to house gay migrants, because they were being victimized (I would have told them to just stop dressing and acting so gay, like the women in Koeln were told...), but no one seems to care about protecting the actual Christian actual refugees.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:38 PM (d1RNN)

234 'Together, Russia and the Assad regime are deliberately weaponizing
migration in an attempt to overwhelm European structures and break
European resolve,' Breedlove told the Senate Armed Services Committee.




Can we call it what it is now. An invasion.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at March 02, 2016 11:17 AM

Nice of him to help out Merkel who kicked it all into overdrive. Putin was warning them this would happen with Turkey funneling over migrants.


Posted by: Lester at March 02, 2016 01:38 PM (2UPXV)

235 Dis ist not gutt! How vill I signal my virtue now?

I vas happy offering up the safety and security and euros of my fellow Germans to the poor refugees, because after all, it vasn't going to hurt me, right?

Vat do other people haf now that I can offer up to the refugees as a symbol of my great love and kindness and superior morality? Maybe I can offer to haf de Americans buy plane tickets to the U.S. for all dese refugees. Dos dopes are always villing to be played for fools, right? Especially if de media tells them that dey are raaaaaaacists if they refuse!

Posted by: Mama Merkel at March 02, 2016 01:39 PM (df5V4)

236 But will it be a fabulous wall

Posted by: Mega at March 02, 2016 01:39 PM (hHFOx)

237 #222

John Nolte points out that this level of brow scrunching never came to
mind when Obama needed stopped. Proving either that the GOPe is Obama,
or the GOPe only takes up arms if it's safe not to be called RACIST!

============

Well, look at it from Bill K.'s point of view. How could one possibly support Trump and cover one's face with shame while holding a cocktail?

Posted by: mrp at March 02, 2016 01:39 PM (JBggj)

238 Hah. Europe is getting schlenged.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 02, 2016 01:28 PM (8ZskC)
________
Forgive me for my impure thoughts, but I really laughed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 02, 2016 01:39 PM (MIKMs)

239 HR, that's a nauseating but familiar story.


It's parallel to the long-standing situation here WRT welfare of various kinds, the comparison of hard-working people who are just above (and don't want) "assistance" with the rest who are 4th generation welfare cases.


Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2016 01:39 PM (QDnY+)

240 Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:34 PM (d1RNN)

Ah, the age old lesson, only suckers follow the rules. As a fellow sucker on the American side, I feel your pain. Would have been cheaper and easier to hire a coyote.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:39 PM (iQr18)

241 It's insane on it's face but the self-hate is strong."

Ever read the young Frenchman's speech in The Camp of The Saints?

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 02, 2016 01:40 PM (C9pBZ)

242 The vast majority who have entered Europe looking for "Asylum" are young Moslem Adult Males.
Posted by: Don Quixote at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (RK8AH)


Bringing Rape Culture.

Look, if you dress like that and walk around unescorted, you're clearly a whore.

And whores can't say no.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 02, 2016 01:40 PM (uURQL)

243

And a lesson unheeded.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (oKE6c)



IMHO, one of the greatest losses in the War on Western Values is the stories we once told our children, like that one.

The ones that had morals to them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 02, 2016 01:41 PM (LUgeY)

244 or the GOPe only takes up arms if it's safe not to be called RACIST!

Trump should declare what we all know, that his hair is an alien. Then he can call all these jerks SPECIST 11ty!

Posted by: DaveA aka MrObviousJoke at March 02, 2016 01:41 PM (DL2i+)

245 When the Inner Circle of the GOPe met last year they pushed Romney aside for Jeb! because Jeb! was going to be so great and so inevitable and sh*t. Romney went along because that's what members of the Inner Circle of the GOPe do. For the common good, you know.

Now Romney has an egotistical drive to be POTUS that's second only to Hillary's. That's one of the things Jeb! lacked.

Romney's play is to fund Marco's attacks on Trump for long enough to get into the race. He'll do that after the Florida and Ohio primaries show that no one else can beat Trump. Romney thinks he can win enough big states like CA to deny Trump and absolute majority of delegates going into Cleveland. And then the fun begins.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 01:41 PM (r1fLd)

246 And cut funding for programs that teach African men to wash their junk after sex?
Posted by: mega machines at March 02, 2016 01:11 PM (fbovC)

--------------
That one was an inside joke that got out of hand, we named the program "Operation Rinse Penis".

Posted by: GOPe at March 02, 2016 01:41 PM (bA+CL)

247 "Do these people have any idea how creepy they come across? "


None. They see us as unwashed vulgarian masses who must be led by the nose.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 02, 2016 01:41 PM (HMt16)

248 >>I thought the knock on R-Money 2012 is that
he had TFG on the ropes after the first debate and then stopped
attacking, not that he was a big meanie.



Point.



>Romney was a nasty asshole. Which is fine, since it's politics.



>But at the same time let's stop the "Mitt is a good man, blah blah" bullshit. He's not a good man. He's a ruthless SOB.



Counterpoint.



Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:34 PM (/tuJf)
_______
And the 'good man' gave us Paul Ryan -- the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 02, 2016 01:41 PM (MIKMs)

249 I do want to know who's the genial chap who has to stand guard against MUMR posts and rewrite them into one sentence pokes on the fly. Someone needs to by that Moron(ette) a beer or three.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:42 PM (2PHKP)

250 When Dondi took a silver and a bronze medal it was touted as a win 24/7 by the AP (American Pravda). Cruz wins 3 states and all I can hear from the press is the sound of crickets.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 02, 2016 01:42 PM (cCxiu)

251

Bill Krystal is providing proof of the uni party


along side with all the Bushies who have set up a super pac to attak Trump

Hillary is their preferred candidate

over Trump

over Cruz

Posted by: ThunderB at March 02, 2016 01:42 PM (zOTsN)

252 OT: Fox just said they're pushing for tighter gun laws in CA, including a ban on the "bullet button" that makes changing magazines fast easy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 02, 2016 01:43 PM (1xUj/)

253 Europe got the leaders it deserves.

Posted by: Iblis at March 02, 2016 01:43 PM (9221z)

254 What's the language proficiency of the people taking the course with you? I assume it's conducted in German?



How linguistically assimilated are your classmates?


Some of the ones with no college-level education in their native tongue have been living here for several years (I assume not legally) before someone noticed them and forced them into the class can pidgin really fast and have a really bad attitude toward learning grammar (I have to pass a grammar test to stay).

The rest are all...fair to middlin', I'd say. Better than me since they've learned two or three languages before; I've just got American and ein bisschen Kanadische.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:44 PM (d1RNN)

255 >> Now if we went after the real
problem, the assholes hiring illegals so they can profit off slave
labor, neither a wall or guns would be needed.

The real problem goes way beyond employers, it's that there are many US institutions - including state and federal government - that enable illegals.
To really stop this, you have to:
---eliminate state drivers licenses
--eliminate all state/federal benefits, such as Obamacare, food stamps, etc.
--stop accepting those Mexican consular IDs as valid form of ID
--stop knowingly processing taxes with fake/stolen SS#s and sending them freakin' refund checks
--stop banks from giving them mortgages
--stop sanctuary cities
--stop treating illegals differently than citizens, such as turning a blind eye to under the table businesses, home improvements, etc. (see VDH's "Two Californias")

Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 01:44 PM (NOIQH)

256 Ladies, looking for a good man, who's smart and thoughtful and learned?

Try this perfume that smells like old books

http://tinyurl.com/7z52ods

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2016 01:44 PM (39g3+)

257 >>The problem with Romney was that he was meaner to his GOP opponents than to Obama. If the guy who came out swinging during the first Romney/Obama debate stuck around for the entire race, he might have won.

The problem is people are comparing apples to oranges. The primary went on for over a year because Santorum hug around like a nasty clingon with everyone swinging at everyone else. The general election money didn't come around until after the convention which was at the end of August so the general was about 2 months long.

It was one of the major reasons the RNC moved the convention to the middle of July this cycle. More time to run against the Democrat and less time to smack each other around.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 02, 2016 01:44 PM (/tuJf)

258 I saw The Bulgarian Rednecks open for The Marshall Tucker Band, Jacksonville,1978

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (HMt16)

259 254 Europe got the leaders it deserves.
Posted by: Iblis at March 02, 2016 01:43 PM (9221z)




And, unfortunately, so did we.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (oKE6c)

260 It's like now you see MUMR, now you don't. Amazing.

Posted by: IC at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (a0IVu)

261 flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:18 PM (iQr1

------------

Muslim. Were you born into it, or did you convert?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (/f6Nd)

262 European immigrant management:

(1) lower drawbridge
(2) welcome millions of muslim invaders
(3) raise drawbridge

Posted by: thespellingpolice at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (UlI/7)

263 To really stop this, you have to:

I'd add put punitive costs on sending money overseas beyond a certain point. Send 100 bucks? OK. Send 1500? Now you pay a 30% tax.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)

264 So wow....Bill Kristol is laying out a strategy to stop Trump at the convention, basically burning the party to the ground and handing Billary back the keys to the White House, because Fuck Trump!.


===

They should go with that.

Posted by: Bigby's Farmhand at March 02, 2016 01:46 PM (3ZtZW)

265 As a fellow sucker on the American side, I feel your pain. Would have been cheaper and easier to hire a coyote.

Probably I should have stayed in Indiana and told my husband to just overstay his visa. But he's white, educated, and speaks English--US Dept of State does not want that shit in America.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:46 PM (d1RNN)

266 The real problem goes way beyond employers, it's
that there are many US institutions - including state and federal
government - that enable illegals.
To really stop this, you have to:
---eliminate state drivers licenses
--eliminate all state/federal benefits, such as Obamacare, food stamps, etc.
--stop accepting those Mexican consular IDs as valid form of ID
--stop knowingly processing taxes with fake/stolen SS#s and sending them freakin' refund checks
--stop banks from giving them mortgages
--stop sanctuary cities
--stop
treating illegals differently than citizens, such as turning a blind
eye to under the table businesses, home improvements, etc. (see VDH's
"Two Californias")


Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 01:44 PM (NOIQH)


Stop giving the free university tuition. Yeah, I'm looking at you, University of Mexifornia.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:46 PM (oKE6c)

267 253
OT: Fox just said they're pushing for tighter gun laws in CA, including a
ban on the "bullet button" that makes changing magazines fast easy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 02, 2016 01:43 PM (1xUj/)

I always thought my magazine ejection button was evil. I'd press it, the mag wouldn't fall and I'd curse it with foul language. Now, through the wisdom of Californians (my "betters"), I see I was right in labeling that button an evil little piece of shit.

On a more sane note, I highly suggest California change the design of utensil drawers to be less "readily available" due to the high number of stabbings last year with steak knives.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:47 PM (2PHKP)

268 Ladies, looking for a good man, who's smart and thoughtful and learned?

Try this perfume that smells like old books



GILFs.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 02, 2016 01:47 PM (+058L)

269 But he's white, educated, and speaks English--US Dept of State does not want that shit in America."

Yeah, that would give many in the DC area the vapors...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 02, 2016 01:48 PM (C9pBZ)

270 The vast majority who have entered Europe looking for "Asylum" are young Moslem Adult Males.

Posted by: Don Quixote at March 02, 2016 01:32 PM (RK8AH)



Bringing Rape Culture.



Look, if you dress like that and walk around unescorted, you're clearly a whore.



And whores can't say no.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 02, 2016 01:40 PM (uURQL)
__________
Be a good EU female, citizens -- lie back and think of the EU. It will soon be over.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 02, 2016 01:48 PM (MIKMs)

271 If Mittens was a good man he would never in a million years have regurgitated Hairy Reid's dishonest smear against HIM into an attack on another (R)

Disgraceful. Completely disgraceful. The man has zero honor. Mittens can FOAD.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 02, 2016 01:48 PM (HMt16)

272 --stop treating illegals differently than citizens, such as turning a
blind eye to under the table businesses, home improvements, etc. (see
VDH's "Two Californias")


But expecting everyone to obey the same laws would be racist, or some shit.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:48 PM (d1RNN)

273 I'd add put punitive costs on sending money overseas
beyond a certain point. Send 100 bucks? OK. Send 1500? Now you pay a
30% tax.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)

That's close to my proposal: withhold 30% tax on overseas remittances of less than, say, $50 K (so as not to impede businesses' financial transfers).

They get the money back - when they file their Federal tax returns. Otherwise, thanks for the dinero!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:49 PM (oKE6c)

274 @250 When Dondi took a silver and a bronze medal it was touted as a win 24/7 by the AP (American Pravda). Cruz wins 3 states and all I can hear from the press is the sound of crickets.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this.

Posted by: DocJ at March 02, 2016 01:49 PM (zrsn3)

275
Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a pull a Rombley out of my hat!

- GOPe Bullwinkle


Again?

Posted by: Rocket J. Squirrel at March 02, 2016 01:50 PM (FkBIv)

276 Am I the only one that finds the ... well, the friggin' hilarious irony in the following;

Liberals chaffed at the conformist culture of post- WWII culture, and fought for equal minority rights, a secular government, and less discrimination based on race, gender, and sexual orientation.

After achieving most of their goals, Liberals morphed into Progressives, who championed superior legal status for those previously mentioned groups, as well as an extension of those additional rights to non-citizens ...

... and, as a result, created a growing popular sentiment that most likely will result in the elimination of all their previous gains.

Posted by: Irony at March 02, 2016 01:50 PM (UqKfP)

277 263 To really stop this, you have to:

I'd add put punitive costs on sending money overseas beyond a certain point. Send 100 bucks? OK. Send 1500? Now you pay a 30% tax.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)


To make that really work, you need guys in leather trenchcoats asking for your "papers" at train stations.

Posted by: jwest at March 02, 2016 01:50 PM (Zs4uk)

278 >>Stop giving the free university tuition.

Oh, yes - that one for sure.

I get so tired of all the anger directed at employers when there are so many others who have enabled this for so long.

The system isn't "broken," it's been intentionally undermined umpteen different ways by the same people now claiming we must do amnesty because it's "broken."

Posted by: Lizzy at March 02, 2016 01:50 PM (NOIQH)

279 --stop knowingly processing taxes with fake/stolen SS#s and sending them freakin' refund checks"

Bbbbut think about the owners of all those strip malls/centers who can't rent space to pager/cellphone sellers anymore and all of those HRBlockhead employees!

See, you hate business!

/

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 02, 2016 01:50 PM (C9pBZ)

280 withhold 30% tax on overseas remittances of less than, say, $50 K

You're going to take a third of my money every time I use the ATM to get money that was taxed when I earned it?

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:51 PM (d1RNN)

281 Aaaaand, the EU is going to make the Syrians pay for it so they can pay Trump to build it for them.

Already tired of winning so much.

Posted by: General Zod at March 02, 2016 01:51 PM (Bdeb0)

282

Ladies, looking for a good man, who's smart and thoughtful and learned?

Try this perfume that smells like old books



If they really wanted to get a man's attention, I'd suggest a perfume that smells like pizza.

Or fried chicken.

Or a cheeseburger.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 02, 2016 01:52 PM (LUgeY)

283 You're going to take a third of my money every time I use the ATM to get money that was taxed when I earned it? "

Yes. Now pray I do not alter the deal further...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at March 02, 2016 01:54 PM (C9pBZ)

284 >>>Mitt has the makings of an excellent Vice President

Posted by: Hillary! at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM (pyd3d)

***

I think his hair may turn silver. That would be *perfect*.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 01:54 PM (bpn7O)

285 Liberals chaffed at the conformist culture of post-
WWII culture, and fought for equal minority rights, a secular
government, and less discrimination based on race, gender, and sexual
orientation.



After achieving most of their goals, Liberals morphed into
Progressives, who championed superior legal status for those previously
mentioned groups, as well as an extension of those additional rights to
non-citizens ...



... and, as a result, created a growing popular sentiment that most
likely will result in the elimination of all their previous gains.

Posted by: Irony at March 02, 2016 01:50 PM (UqKfP)

I have a more cynical take: it wasn't so much liberals who chafed under the 50s conformist culture, and doing all the stuff you listed, it was Communists mobilizing the disaffected.
And liberals didn't morph into "progressives," they were "progressives" (i.e., Communists; recall the USSR used to refer to "progressive forces," by which they meant Communists) all along; they just came out of the closet as the environment became less hostile.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:54 PM (oKE6c)

286
I believe they honest-to-God thought that they could westernize and "educate" these people.


They could, but not in these numbers. 100 or so a year? That's managable, scattered around so they don't create a nucleus. One family in a town cannot create a mosque. But tens of thousands at a time? What retard thought that was anything but an invasion?

You're going to take a third of my money every time I use the ATM to get money that was taxed when I earned it?

No, this would take a third of your money you send to the family back in Mexico when you work in the USA illegally.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2016 01:55 PM (39g3+)

287 Do you know what the founding fathers would have said about the government having the right to know what you do for a living and how much money you make doing it?

They even put some words into the Constitution about privacy, but that didn't stop the tax man.

Posted by: jwest at March 02, 2016 01:55 PM (Zs4uk)

288
If Romney's big announcement is to get angry GOP voters/conservatives back on the reservation, such as a plea to vote for Rubio, it will not work.

Play a drinking game. Every time Mittens mentions Reagan, take a drink, as in "this direction is not the party of Reagan."

You'll be sloshed and schlonged in five minutes.

(just thought of an idea - if Ace does a post on Romney's cri du Coeur, he should take a leaf from the Boston Globe and title it More Mush From The Wimp.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 02, 2016 01:55 PM (X6fMO)

289 In 2012 Romney was an awful candidate for the Rs to run. He couldn't attack ObamaCare and he couldn't run well on economics because of the particular business background he had, which was to cut the number of US jobs through outsourcing and "efficiencies." And tax games.

Mitt had a difficult time against a weak field because as the field winnowed voters who move on to the next Anybody But Mitt. Around this time last cycle it looked like Newt could win and then Mitt used his war chest to take him out.

In the general Mitt couldn't cut through the MSM clutter. (You think Trump would let himself be Crowlied). His vaunted Bain team got their clock cleaned with things like ORCA.

Key state was Ohio, where Joe the Plumber felt no reason to get off his ass and go vote for Mitt. Joe the Plumber will vote for Trump and that means all the difference.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 02, 2016 01:56 PM (r1fLd)

290 If they really wanted to get a man's attention, I'd suggest a perfume that smells like pizza.

Or fried chicken.

Or a cheeseburger.


Hello!

Posted by: Bacon at March 02, 2016 01:56 PM (BrQrN)

291 I'd add put punitive costs on sending money overseas
beyond a certain point. Send 100 bucks? OK. Send 1500? Now you pay a
30% tax.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at March 02, 2016 01:45 PM (39g3+)
That's close to my proposal: withhold 30% tax on overseas remittances of less than, say, $50 K (so as not to impede businesses' financial transfers).

They get the money back - when they file their Federal tax returns. Otherwise, thanks for the dinero!



80% unless it is going to a licensed business.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 02, 2016 01:56 PM (+058L)

292 Probably I should have stayed in Indiana and told my
husband to just overstay his visa. But he's white, educated, and speaks
English--US Dept of State does not want that shit in America.


Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:46 PM (d1RNN)
Good times. Opposite side here. Went through the process with my wife, and during that time her dad was killed overseas. We support two families now, and it'd be nice if we could enjoy the benefit. Never been a drain on the taxpayer and neither would the rest of her family, but whatever. All the paperwork restriction bullshit and the lack of ability to get answers - even from the USCIS THEMSELVES FOR FUCK SAKES - just makes me want to beat my head against a desk.

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:56 PM (iQr18)

293 There's a Romney Nood.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at March 02, 2016 01:57 PM (uURQL)

294 If they really wanted to get a man's attention, I'd suggest a perfume that smells like pizza.

Or fried chicken.

Or a cheeseburger.

Hello!
Posted by: Bacon



Hoppe's #9

Posted by: rickb223 at March 02, 2016 01:57 PM (+058L)

295 On a more sane note, I highly suggest California change the design of utensil drawers to be less "readily available" due to the high number of stabbings last year with steak knives.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 02, 2016 01:47 PM (2PHKP)

You joke but the British have been going after knives, as well. You mustfurnish the police with avalidprofessional reason for carrying a knife on your person; e.g., cooks, shop workers, etc.

The blade length limit for an EDC knife in California is two inches. My girlfriend's daughter lives inMalibu and wanted something--anything--to protect herself. I finally found a CRKTneck knife thatmet the requirement.

Naturally, criminals in both Great Britain and the state of California eagerly comply with knife restrictions of all kinds, no problem.

Posted by: troyriser at March 02, 2016 01:57 PM (UWlp+)

296 280 withhold 30% tax on overseas remittances of less than, say, $50 K
You're going to take a third of my money every time I use the ATM to get money that was taxed when I earned it?
Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 01:51 PM (d1RNN)




Don't be silly. I'm talking about cash remittances; every barrio in California has a zillion wire transfer places. And in any case, those facing withholding would get their money back: if and when they filed Federal tax returns showing that they had paid tax already. The guys who mow lawns for cash? Not so much.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 01:57 PM (oKE6c)

297 Years ago I sponsored a person from Poland. For them to get permission to enter the US, I had to guarantee that I would be financially responsible for them- in spite of the fact that they were coming to only visit relatives! Maybe all the red tape was cuz they were white and Catholic?

Posted by: Chillin the most at March 02, 2016 01:58 PM (CsGTF)

298 >>>It's so sickening. There *are* "refugees" fleeing to Europe (or really, "asylees" seeking asylum), under common sense and actual definitions of the term.

...

Posted by: rhomboid at March 02, 2016 01:27 PM (QDnY+)

***

Really? I read on other sites that many of them are returning to their places of origin. Apparently, the life of luxury and free stuff promised by their smugglers has turned out not to be.

That sounds more like "welfare opportunist" to me, but I am old and cynical.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 01:59 PM (bpn7O)

299 The Europe can instigate an old southern
Institution called a chain gang. They can work on the roads while a man
in mirrored sunglasses watches them with a shotgun,


Posted by: Vic-we have no party at March 02, 2016 01:22 PM


With all those languages? We'd have a failure to communicate.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 02, 2016 01:59 PM (bzd8I)

300 >>>the assholes hiring illegals so they can profit off slave labor, neither a wall or guns would be needed.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at March 02, 2016 01:28 PM (yos+4)

***

I don't know which assholes whereof you speak, but here in Chamblee, GA, the disappearance of EBT would likely help.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 02:01 PM (bpn7O)

301 If they really wanted to get a man's attention, I'd suggest a perfume that smells like pizza.



Or fried chicken.



Or a cheeseburger.




Hello!

Posted by: Bacon at March 02, 2016 01:56 PM (BrQrN)

Close, but the science is settled. Planter's Super Bowl XLII:
https://youtu.be/6KUMf6siamE

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 02, 2016 02:01 PM (JO9+V)

302 >>>"Fixed Fortifications are a monument to man's stupidity" - Patton

Posted by: flashoverride at March 02, 2016 01:29 PM (iQr1

***

They work rather well in the absence of things like precision guided munitions.

Oh, and as the French discovered, gaps.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 02:02 PM (bpn7O)

303 Romney needs to understand that he is exhibit fucking A as to why people are so pissed off. Good, make your little speech. Marco will drop and it's probably good for a 4-5 point bump for NotMarco.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 02, 2016 02:03 PM (kTF2Z)

304 They work rather well in the absence of things like precision guided munitions.



Oh, and as the French discovered, gaps.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at March 02, 2016 02:02 PM (bpn7O)


Which is why people still build castles.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at March 02, 2016 02:05 PM (oKE6c)

305 Really? I read on other sites that many of them are returning to their
places of origin. Apparently, the life of luxury and free stuff
promised by their smugglers has turned out not to be.


Those aren't the people rhomboid and I are talking about, and I suspect you know that.

Posted by: HR traegt keine Hose at March 02, 2016 02:08 PM (d1RNN)

306 Say, didn't some U.S. presidential candidate call for a wall too?

They tell me he's unelectable though.

Posted by: Hawkins Aquinas (new name) at March 02, 2016 02:36 PM (TZYqp)

307
Pope Che hardest hit.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at March 02, 2016 02:48 PM (1hM1d)

308 I have this horrible feeling the RNC/GOPe has talked itself and Mitt into running Romney again.

Oh, well, it will speed up the GOPe collapse even more anyway.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at March 02, 2016 03:34 PM (Kucy5)

309 Have the Europeans looked at a map of Greece? There are a number of Greek islands located within 10 miles of the Turkish mainland. They're going to need coast guard patrols to keep people from getting there.

Posted by: Joshua at March 02, 2016 03:44 PM (oCZ4e)

310 From Rhodes and Kos, you can clearly see the Turkish coast. I remember thinking that a swim over from Kos to Turkey would be difficult but do-able


They have little motor launches which run back and forth from the harbors at those two islands to Turkey. Short and swift

Posted by: Charles the Fifth, man at March 02, 2016 04:05 PM (/542q)

311 Uh, huh. When Trump or any conservative calls for real security at the border of the US free-travel zone (the whole country) it's a crime against humanity, but when Europe faces the same problem it's totally OK to secure the external border in order to preserve the internal units.

I get it, yeah, I really do.

a-holes, they all are.

Posted by: mhjhnsn at March 02, 2016 04:41 PM (FZdvr)

312 No sane country in the world would tolerate what's happening with the illegals pouring in and the EU is proving it. I always thought uropeons were dumb buttfuckers.

Posted by: torpedo_of_truth at March 02, 2016 04:56 PM (plVke)

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