Rubio Starts Playing Game by Trump's Rules

He's now doing a Trump-like comedy show, at Trump's expense, and it's pretty funny.

The below video is all pretty tough, and kind of funny, but it gets brutally funny at 5:10, when he starts reading Trump's misspelled angry tweets.

If you're a Trump supporter, I wouldn't watch this. He definitely does some damage. It's just interesting to me that he's now running Trump's entire playbook against Trump, and with a lot of natural ability at it.

Posted by: Ace at 01:39 PM

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1 Rubio would have destroyed Hillary.

But we have a bloodletting that has to happen, and so it shall.

Posted by: Lex at February 26, 2016 01:41 PM (5qH5h)

2

lol, yeah, this is good

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 01:41 PM (qCMvj)

3

someone was playing this, this morning
maybe Laura I (maybe Rush), my memory is short

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 01:42 PM (qCMvj)

4 Damn Gina.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:42 PM (UnJ7w)

5 Yeah. Trump isn't a true conservative like Rubio.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 01:43 PM (8ZskC)

6 ...Dondi does Dallas.

Posted by: billygoat at February 26, 2016 01:43 PM (INxoa)

7 How dare he blaspheme the Orange Messiah.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 26, 2016 01:43 PM (kZNQE)

8 I wonder if Rubio did the same shtick in Spanish for Univision.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 01:44 PM (8ZskC)

9 Bombs everywhere. I half expect Trump to call a meeting of all the heads, and then beat Mario to death with a baseball bat at the meeting.

Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 01:44 PM (rsudF)

10 O/T but is anyone else getting "Enhance your breasts without surgery" ads? LOL

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 01:44 PM (0LHZx)

11 Cruz is my guy but if he drops out now and endorses Rubio, we have a chance to win this thing.

Otherwise it's Hello Cankles. Ugh.

Posted by: Dirt McGirt at February 26, 2016 01:44 PM (haMR6)

12

I wonder who he hired.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 01:44 PM (qCMvj)

13 You don't get it ace. You never have. Your boy Rubio is done. He's a child.

I know it hurts. But Marco "open borders" Rubio is outta politics for good.

So let the choker get his 10 minutes of gloating. Buh bye.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (7QkL1)

14 What is the correct spelling for "choker"?

What is the correct pronunciation?

Sorry Marco, it kind of backfired. I hear you were applying makeup with a trowel during a commercial break.

LOL.

Hope you enjoy the last days in the bunker of your campaign. Might as well go out with a boom!!!

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (TFWFz)

15 what was the spanish version?

Posted by: nckate at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (oUaBJ)

16 So Rubio is now the Twitter spelling nazi? Yeah that will totes win him votes.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (0LHZx)

17
Trump WILL MAKE PARODY GREAT AGAIN!

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (RcpcZ)

18 Wrong target.
Hit Obama like that.

Posted by: Basic Argyle at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (+XvV5)

19 He probably stole stole that idea from the KS Senator Sasse who was reading tweets from deranged Trump supporters and which is on youtube, I think.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (w4NZ8)

20 Cruz or fucking bust.

Posted by: Mike Honcho at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (H25U5)

21 I wish I could believe that this was extemporaneous but my rational mind tells me the reason he didn't do this sooner is because his writers and rehearsal coaches couldn't put it together before now.

Teleprompter Chief Executive v2.0.

Posted by: 0302 at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (5Gb38)

22 630 views

That'll show 'im!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (A/3fN)

23 >>O/T but is anyone else getting "Enhance your breasts without surgery" ads? LOL

Yup. Also getting ad for men's briefs. No idea why....

Posted by: Lizzy at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (NOIQH)

24 I kissed Chris Christie and I liked it--sweet smell of cherry ice cream...

Posted by: Donald's Got a Crusher at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (mcm0N)

25 Too little, too late.

Posted by: other joe_mama at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (13W9U)

26 People are welcome to vote for that Rubio fuck. I will not.

Ever.

(insert Gang of Eight - Schumer and pals picture here)

Posted by: nip at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (r73Jl)

27 Wait until Trump begins the counterattack. This is a good test to see who stands up under the pressure.

Posted by: mAc Chaos at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (25KoR)

28 >>So let the choker get his 10 minutes of gloating

the chocker you mean?

and what do you mean "You don't get it, you never have"? What don't I get?

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (dciA+)

29 I could live with any of the GOP big three. They're very different, but each in their own way is far better than that skankopotomous Hillary.

Posted by: Blacksheep at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (8/DeP)

30 Kudos to the guy who did Rubio's firmware upgrade.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (8ZskC)

31 what was the spanish version?

Que?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (wKcYr)

32 Aww, look at the little fella. Somebody finally turned on the comedy button.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (TOk1P)

33 I gotta yuuuuuge crusher..

Posted by: Donald's Got a Crusher at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (mcm0N)

34 Trump knocking the crap out of Rubio now. Thousands roaring in laughter.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (TFWFz)

35 Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (7QkL1)

Er, it's been quite a while since Ace was a Rubio fan, or even a fan of Rubio's garbage.

Please try to keep up, dear.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (u0lmX)

36 10
O/T but is anyone else getting "Enhance your breasts without surgery" ads? LOL

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 01:44 PM (0LHZx)

...yes, but only on my kindle...thought I was at the H2 for a moment...!

Posted by: billygoat at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (INxoa)

37 As we've ALWAYS said, doing schtick is the highest form of campaigning!

Posted by: Rubio Fanbois at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (hcTg0)

38 How dare Donald make fun of my boat!

Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (Moh0M)

39 Who hasn't misspelled a tweet? I have. You can only delete them, not edit them once they are posted. Now we are the spelling police? LOL.

I cracked up at the 'trowel' comment during Trump's press conference. He can make me laugh every day with his one liners. Imagine this turned on Hillary.

You do realize that Bill was 100% marginalized by Trump and no one else, right? Not Cruz. Not Rubio. Trump shut Bill up in one friggin' day.

Posted by: K-E at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (OV2w5)

40 Your boy Rubio is done.

I guess you haven't been able to read all of Ace's posts. He does not support Rubio.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (w4NZ8)

41 Here's the thing about Rubio that I don't think people realized (I didn't). He's not just some debate geek, politics dweeb. He played football (in college, I think). He's enough of a policy wonk, law nerd to get by, but once he realized that he had to take Trump to the woodshed like the weak kid in the locker room, he knows how to do it. I don't think Cruz has that setting.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (KIvt1)

42 19 He probably stole stole that idea from the KS Senator Sasse who was reading tweets from deranged Trump supporters and which is on youtube, I think.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (w4NZ

Rubio/Amy Schumer '16!
Because neither can come up with original material and you already got Rubio/Chuck Schumer in 2013!

Posted by: 0302 at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (5Gb38)

43 Oh gawd, he's going to hug me...

Posted by: Donald's Got a Crusher at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (mcm0N)

44 It's funny. But ya know? It's not going to make a damn bit of difference.

A YouTube video vs. Trump speaking on national tv right now.

Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (Fmupd)

45 ace , p. noonan's latest column is rather good , you might be able to make an easy post off of it.

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (L1+sh)

46 Ace's boy Rubio is totally NOT done!

Posted by: Kensington at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (7Kbxu)

47 Yeah, sorry, I got about 20 seconds in, and he started talking about redefining what it means to be a conservative "in the 21st century."

I know what that means: moar illegal mexicans.

No thanks, Rufio. You worthless piece of excrement.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (TOk1P)

48 630 views

That'll show 'im!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 26, 2016 01:46 PM (A/3fN)

Rush Limbaugh blared this to his 20 million listeners in his post debate opening monologue.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (UnJ7w)

49 what was the spanish version?

---

Yo aceptar el Donald

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (Qvgg/)

50 squeeeeeal!

Posted by: Rubio fanboy at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (nFwvY)

51 39 Who hasn't misspelled a tweet?

Posted by: K-E at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (OV2w5)

_____________________________________

I've never misspelled a tweet.

Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (rsudF)

52 It is like chess really; Rubio mocks Trump and gains an edge (maybe) - Trump trots out Christie and sucks all the air time from Rubio - Christie starts hammering Rubio - Rubio has to fight two battles.

Posted by: IC at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (a0IVu)

53 If Trump can't take out Rubio ... but lets at least give him a week.

Posted by: scorecard at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (jN+3o)

54 I think this backfires, Rubio comes across as a junior high school shitbird pulling pranks on the bully. It might be good for jollies but it doesn't change the bottom line: he betrayed us, would sell us out again and is the face of the establishment.

If Rubio really wanted to siphon Trump votes he should have been on an apology tour and beg forgiveness because of his amnesty bullshit. But he won't because deep down he wants that and won't change his position.

Trump is a wildcard, but we already knew that. I wanted Cruz to win but again, he cannot win a general election with the kind of campaign he's been running.

Nothing has changed. Trump gets the nom. Get in line, or stay home.

Posted by: Burn It Down at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (qHgBB)

55 ...just wait till they see my deep, dark, brown and soulful Latin eyes -- they will melt!!!!111eleventy!!1!

Posted by: Dondi from Miami at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (INxoa)

56 LEAVE DONALD TRUMP ALONE.

Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (TJCSB)

57 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (dciA+)

58 I am finished as a Republican.

If a con artist is the pick of the party, I'm not one of them.

I don't believe in that. I don't take advantage of people. I don't believe in that.

The party left me to support a con man.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (VoCyE)

59 "Rubio would have been destroyed by Hillary"

edited to reflect reality...

you're welcome

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (MYe5B)

60 Trump: mis spells tweets, wants to secure the border

Mario: Excellent speller, wants to give 30 million illegals citizenship

Hmmm...tough fucking choice.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (0LHZx)

61 Yeah, ol' Marco, yucking it up for the CNN crowd.

Posted by: mrp at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (JBggj)

62 Rubio could always go back to school and run for president of his student council. That's more befitting his mien.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (TFWFz)

63 Prescient11 isn't worth responding to ace.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (Sz/sQ)

64 good lord, i could've played football where rubio did. not a selling point.

Posted by: nckate at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (oUaBJ)

65 I see he still has his ears taped back.

Posted by: wth at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (HgMAr)

66

I do not get how people think Rubio is dead.
It is still early, with plenty of delegates - yeah, maybe a longshot, but hey, I don't trust the GOP and what they might do.

Not only is it still early enough, but now the field has been thinned out. Kasich and Carson are done, I'll grant you that. But, then there are 3 wrestling over the final delegates.

Rubio's in a good position now.

It's just that Trump is such an anomaly and he may run the table.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (qCMvj)

67 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?

Sure I can. Now, ask me if I care.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (wKcYr)

68 Agreed. Kid's definitely got chops. Baby-faced assassin.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (Rtyzj)

69 Gotta say this for Trump, at least the candidates are talking like real human beings now. That alone is a huge improvement.

Posted by: bjk at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (20vIv)

70

Rubicube broken, can't twist in all ways needed for solution...

Posted by: Dried Wasabi Peas, Professional Lout at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (qul7b)

71 How many of these endorsements will Trump pick up in the next week?

Guiliani
Gingrich
Huckabee
Sessions

???

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at February 26, 2016 01:51 PM (TFWFz)

72 It's funny. But ya know? It's not going to make a damn bit of difference.

A YouTube video vs. Trump speaking on national tv right now.
Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (Fmupd)

It won't make a difference with the True Believers but it shows Trump isn't Ten feet tall to the rest of the 65%-70% of the base. And by judging by Trump carting out Christie he at least understand it drew blood.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (UnJ7w)

73 57 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (dciA+)

_____

Trump has had about 300 bad nights/days. 300 being the number of days he has been running. Every day there is a "this is the end of Trump" proclamation by the punditry.

So OK he had a bad night, just like every other night he's had since deciding to run.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (0LHZx)

74 We've seen what happens with Marco...

The lil' guy is just too easily manipulated. You've got to have Trump or Cruz, but Rubio just doesn't measure up.

Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (Zs4uk)

75 But robots can't do comedy. There was a South Park episode about this.

Posted by: broseidon king of the brocean at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (4/i9Y)

76 Ben Sasse reading mean tweets from Trump supporters:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jzzufnq

Because Ii don't think Rubio is a particularly creative person, Someone based on the idea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (w4NZ8)

77 58
I am finished as a Republican.

If a con artist is the pick of the party, I'm not one of them.

I don't believe in that. I don't take advantage of people. I don't believe in that.

The party left me to support a con man.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (VoCyE)

...DailyKos is thataway -------->

Posted by: billygoat at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (INxoa)

78 58 I am finished as a Republican.

If a con artist is the pick of the party, I'm not one of them.

I don't believe in that. I don't take advantage of people. I don't believe in that.

The party left me to support a con man.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (VoCyE)

_____________________________________________

"I'm wilting! wilting! Oh, what a world! What a world!"

Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (rsudF)

79 petunia, That's exactly how i felt about Romney and Rubio.

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (L1+sh)

80 Ace sez:

"If you're a Trump supporter, I wouldn't watch this. He definitely does some damage. It's just interesting to me that he's now running Trump's entire playbook against Trump, and with a lot of natural ability at it."

Nah. It won't do damage. The hardcore Trump supporters don't particularly care whether or not an establishment type starts a back alley brawl with street-fighting rules against Trump. Their voting for Trump because they hate the very concept of "the establishment." Nothing Rubio is doing changes the fact that he is the establishment pick. Rubio could go totally nuclear on Trump, "destroying" him, and Rubio's numbers would not uptick one bit. Because even after the attack, he (Rubio) is still unchanged who he is.

This is my roundabout way of saying that for most Trump "supporters," their vote for Trump is actually just a vote against everyone else. So any attacks on Trump will be irrelevant.

Posted by: zombie at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (jBuUi)

81 Trump is a wildcard, but we already knew that. I wanted Cruz to win but again, he cannot win a general election with the kind of campaign he's been running.
Nothing has changed. Trump gets the nom. Get in line, or stay home.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (qHgBB)

I totally agree.
Cruz will end up on the SC
Christie will end up as AG
... and I forgot about Mia Love as possible VP, but I still don't think Jan Brewer is out of the question.

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (DofIg)

82 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?
Posted by: ace

He had a bad night and it won't matter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (A/3fN)

83 It's too bad we don't hear Marco saying shit like that about his Gang of Eight buddies Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (8ZskC)

84 I am finished as a Republican.

If a con artist is the pick of the party, I'm not one of them.

I don't believe in that. I don't take advantage of people. I don't believe in that.

The party left me to support a con man.
Posted by: petunia

Sugartits, the party left you to be dem light.
Trump is a result of the party running left.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (wKcYr)

85 Great set! You're on fire,Ace.

Hillary is melting like the Witch of the West!

Fire up the helicopter, Barry, the FBI is on the way with paper and CPA's.

Posted by: DM at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (j/tOh)

86 My enemy is Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (qUNWi)

87 This attack will destroy Trump. It'll happen on the same day that Hillary goes to prison.

Posted by: Roy at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (VndSC)

88 osted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (7QkL1)

Er, it's been quite a while since Ace was a Rubio fan, or even a fan of Rubio's garbage.

Please try to keep up, dear.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 26, 2016 01:47 PM (u0lmX)

Not so prescient, it would seem.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (wtvvX)

89 and his mudda wears army boots...

Posted by: wth at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (HgMAr)

90 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night
or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in
his path?

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (dciA+)

I didn't watch, because I had something... anything else to do, but so far you seem to be the only one I've seen talking about how bad last night was for Trump.

Maybe it was, but I've checked any number of sites where "the straights" hang out. None of them are talking about it like it's a disaster or anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (TOk1P)

91 and what do you mean "You don't get it, you never have"? What don't I get?+

===

ANCHOVIES

Posted by: Bigby's Punchbug Blue at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (3ZtZW)

92 Their voting for Trump = They're voting for Trump

Hate that error -- couldn't let it go uncorrected!

Posted by: zombie at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (jBuUi)

93 Trumps always foolish, but that isn't why many are willing to vote him in and the gopE out.

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (L1+sh)

94 Trump bros, Trump has been actively betraying white working folks for like his whole life. Rubio (and Cruz) exposed that for all to see last night. Don't expect the persuadable base, who's not in Trump's hardcore 25% of the Republican electorate, to not see that. You complain about Rubio and the Establishment being controlled by CoC guys who want cheap labor. Except Trump is the guy demanding the cheap labor.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (KIvt1)

95 Meant "someone "passed" on the idea.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (w4NZ8)

96 You don't get it ace. You never have. Your boy Rubio is done. He's a child.
I know it hurts. But Marco "open borders" Rubio is outta politics for good.
So let the choker get his 10 minutes of gloating. Buh bye.
Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (7QkL1)

Someone hasn't been reading the content.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (xuouz)

97 Now if we could just get Cruz to walk across the stage at the next debate and puch that POS Trump right in the c**ksucker.

Posted by: JROD at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (wnwJC)

98 Has Trump ever had a good debate? Most of the ones I watched he was okay or bad. Don't think that forum is his strong suite..rallies and one on ones are probably better for him. And as someone else said earlier, listening to him on the radio is the best.

Posted by: IC at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (a0IVu)

99 Sugartits. Ha

Posted by: nip at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (r73Jl)

100 79
petunia, That's exactly how i felt about Romney and Rubio.

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 01:52 PM (L1+sh)

...and McCain and Dole and...

Posted by: billygoat at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (INxoa)

101 Probably too little, too late, though. Had this dope done this from the outset, he may be the frontrunner.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (gA69l)

102 Somebody get the smelling salts for Petunia.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (8ZskC)

103 That's some funny stuff. He's a natural.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (FsuaD)

104 Nothing could better illustrate the point Cruz was making in the debate last night than Christie endorsing Trump this morning.

Posted by: Dbot1800 at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (pW9OW)

105 Petunia we don't give one flying sex act if you are leaving the party. We just want to know if you're leaving here. Please do.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (Sz/sQ)

106 imitation. the sincerest form of flattery.

Posted by: x at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (nFwvY)

107 let's face it: Rubio is a quitter... he decided he didn't like the Senate, so he's not running for re-election.

not that he has a hope in hell of being President, but what if he did? how soon would he decided he didn't like that position either, and turned into a Latino Obola?

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (MYe5B)

108 69 Gotta say this for Trump, at least the candidates are talking like real human beings now. That alone is a huge improvement.

-----------------------------

Not so fast... Have you heard Cruz speak? It's hard to figure out if he's giving a sermon or LARPing some historical figure of great significance. It's just uncomfortable to listen to, regardless of the content.

Posted by: SomeGuy at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (FpNC5)

109 Someone hasn't been reading the content.

Seriously. Ace has been pretty open about his Cruz support. Well to those paying attention.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (gA69l)

110 Pequito Marcolito is annnnnngry!!!!

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (0LHZx)

111 and I forgot about Mia Love as possible VP
Posted by: jwb7605

OK that is fuckin' GENIUS.

If Trump names Mia Love as VP, the election is OVER. Hillary will get steamrolled.

Are you listening, Trump campaign?

Posted by: zombie at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (jBuUi)

112 I would never vote for anchovies.

Ever.

Except against Hillary. Then I would vote anchovies.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (qUNWi)

113 A bad night for Trump is having to pay his hookers with twenties instead of hundreds.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (TJCSB)

114 In Aces defense Rubio is not his guy.

Posted by: JROD at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (wnwJC)

115 wyatt, if he had not tried to play with schumer in their scheme. He would still be standing.

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (L1+sh)

116 And all the so called constitution folks who want to go by what the Founding Fathers intended/meant when they wrote the constitution keep ignoring the elephant in the room.

Neither Cruz or Rubioto is eligible to hold the office of president or vice president.

Were their fathers US Citizens at the time of their birth. No?
Well there you go.
I can't do links but if you go to news with views dot com there is a nice little article by J.B. Williams titled One World Order vs Natural Born Citizen to get you started.

Or you can let your egos get in the way.

Posted by: 1Hz at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (ywKik)

117 It won't make a difference with the True Believers but it shows Trump isn't Ten feet tall to the rest of the 65%-70% of the base. And by judging by Trump carting out Christie he at least understand it drew blood.

------------------

It very well might have "drawn blood", but once again, Rubio has put out a YouTube video and Trump is speaking on national TV.

Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (Fmupd)

118 Seriously. Ace has been pretty open about his Cruz support. Well to those paying attention.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (gA69l)

_________________________________

And pretty open about how someone shivving Mario would be nice.

Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (rsudF)

119 I suggest waiting until the results of super Tuesday come in before anyone declares any of these candidates 'over', much as I would like to see Mr Rubiato go down in flames.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (Qvgg/)

120 >>This is my roundabout way of saying that for most Trump "supporters," their vote for Trump is actually just a vote against everyone else. So any attacks on Trump will be irrelevant.

That is true.
It has become such a clown show it's hard not to be horrified daily.
Trump was just now mocking Rubio's rebuttal to Obama and the water drinking. Rubio is reading Trump's misspelled tweets. After months of just about everything Jeb said making me cringe. My expectations are so low at this point.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (NOIQH)

121 I see this as desperation.

If he had not joined the Gang of 8 I would still be a Rubio fan. Now he, the Tea Party guy from Florida who destroyed Crist, is part of the DC Gang. Must be something in the water...or a big closet containing skeletons. Something changed when he got to DC.

I don't see this as any kind of gotcha moment for Rubio. The damage was done, dude, when you were on the same stage as McCain and Schumer. Done. Do not pretend to be a conservative when you say things that please, yet do nothing to change the status quo. Senator Cruz runs rings around you on this issue (but then, he has the Beck teddy bear albatross around his neck...I still trust him way more than Marlo). xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (wAMRL)

122 This is absolutely stunning. This denial . It's OK to admit Trump got hurt. Even Trump is admitting he got hurt with his actions today. Boy oh boy.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (UnJ7w)

123 ...hey Wyatt...!...still miss your blog...

Posted by: billygoat at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (INxoa)

124 The RINO Christie endorses the David Duke endorsed RINO Trump. You scumbags should be proud of yourselves.

Posted by: Naes at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (Ypc8j)

125 116 wyatt, if he had not tried to play with schumer in their scheme. He would still be standing.

Agreed. I don't like Rubes, but if he actually wanted to be president, that was the way to accomplish it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (gA69l)

126 Watch while I read Trump's tweets and mock him!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (kTF2Z)

127 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?

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We're [generalized we] not seeing the same stuff. I made a comparison to 1960 JFK v. Nixon last post. I think its the closest modern dynamic.

Posted by: Bigby's Punchbug Blue at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (3ZtZW)

128 And please stop with the Mia Love. She went Dem-lite almost immediately after being elected.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (gA69l)

129 Did Rubio joke about Christie yet? I bet he finds that endorsement hilarious.

Rubio can try to soften Trump up for Cruz a little. But the boy in the bubble has no chance.

Here Trump testifies after Bill Seidman in a House committee, and they are all hanging on Trumps every word of advise, thanking him for his wise counsel

Trump shows he was ahead of the easy money "DOOM", ahead of Greenspan's call of "irrational exuberance", and being thanked by a rep for his insight on out trade issues and lost jobs.

But if any want to watch that and still say Trump is a dummy and buffoon, I guess that can't be stopped, the hate is thick. But he sounds conservative even then, and praised by D's and R's in the House. After that he has 20+ years of executive experience. Cruz and Rubio have none.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (eUbDe)

130 Yes, Ace has been the biggest Marco hater out there. I mean, he regularly posts that Mario fans only support him to signal to other Tufts grads that they share the same social status, which I think is ridiculous Marxist thinking. But Ace calls him like he sees them, and Marco is drawing blood. Who knows if it's enough to stop the boulder at this point, but here's hoping.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (KIvt1)

131 ***"Rubio would have destroyed Hillary."***

Yeah, by helping to usher in an infinite era of permanent Donk majorities.

You run with that long term strategy.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (Wckf4)

132 That's some funny stuff. He's a natural.

I tried to watch but 8 minutes is just too long to listen to a pol.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (qUNWi)

133 Trump bros, Trump has been actively betraying white
working folks for like his whole life...

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 01:54 PM (KIvt1)

Oh, you're one of those.

Good luck, when you write your report.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (TOk1P)

134 128 And please stop with the Mia Love. She went Dem-lite almost immediately after being elected.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (gA69l)

And this would deter Trump how, exactly?
Discuss.

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (DofIg)

135 Oh, and Marlo? You looked like someone at a high school, preening for "Most Popular" last night when you finally got a dig in or two against Trump. Big man, grinning like a jackass at your crowd of cheerleaders.

Bah. Politics. pfft

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (wAMRL)

136 105 Petunia we don't give one flying sex act if you are leaving the party. We just want to know if you're leaving here. Please do.
Posted by: Buzzion at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (Sz/sQ)

I don't like the undead usually, but I'm with Buzzion on this.

Posted by: Nora at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (hcTg0)

137 So did prescient just come out of a coma or something?

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (Wckf4)

138 petunia think about this;

romney and romneycare which the base was absolutely Livid over and Romey was the chosen by GopE! (to fight for Us) LOL

rubio
illegal immigration overwhelm and Rubio the chosen by gopE!

so yea, whatever

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (L1+sh)

139 He tapes his ears back so they don't flap when he's out in his speedboat.

Posted by: wth at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (HgMAr)

140 I don't see this as any kind of gotcha moment for Rubio. The damage was done, dude, when you were on the same stage as McCain and Schumer. Done. Do not pretend to be a conservative when you say things that please, yet do nothing to change the status quo. Senator Cruz runs rings around you on this issue (but then, he has the Beck teddy bear albatross around his neck...I still trust him way more than Marlo). xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (wAMRL)

____

To me the worst part about the gang of 8 idiocy is Rubio thinking it wouldn't hurt him. I'm not sure if that's because he is that out of touch with the "common man" or if he simply assumed the great unwashed would forget. Either case, fuck him.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (0LHZx)

141 "Trump is a result of the party running left."

That's probably true. The thing is Trump is in no way a solution to this problem.

Posted by: Myself at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (5wiU6)

142 Maybe he'll get Trump to blow up and say something so stupid/offensive he can't recover from it, but I'm not sure that's possible for Trump.

Entertaining in a train wreck sort of way, though.

Posted by: brak at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (MJuTN)

143 The RINO Christie endorses the David Duke endorsed RINO Trump. You scumbags should be proud of yourselves.

And, we're off...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (8ZskC)

144 ace , p. noonan's latest column is rather good , you might be able to make an easy post off of it.

Good? What was so good about it? She was the one who didn't want to be called a racist, and supported the Zipster. She's the female equivalent of David Brooks. I'll leave it at that, otherwise I'll end up banhammered.

Posted by: Hadoop at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (2X7pN)

145 It very well might have "drawn blood", but once again, Rubio has put out a YouTube video and Trump is speaking on national TV.
Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 01:56 PM (Fmupd)

True, but like I posted up thread, Rush Limbaugh just blared this video to his 20 million listeners in his post debate opening monologue.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (UnJ7w)

146 imitation. the sincerest form of flattery.

I read that as inquisition is the sincerest form of flattery.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (qUNWi)

147 Mia Love is a policy lightweight. Trump can't afford that seeing as he's not exactly a policy wonk himself. The right choice for him would have been Rubio or Susanna Martinez to help counter the fact that he's an old white guy and Hillary will almost certainly name Julian Castro or Cory Booker as her VP.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (Rtyzj)

148 121 "...or a big closet containing skeletons."

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Fabulously dressed skeletons, no doubt.

Posted by: SomeGuy at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (FpNC5)

149 petunia think about this;

romney and romneycare which the base was absolutely Livid over and Romey was the chosen by GopE! (to fight for Us) LOL

rubio
illegal immigration overwhelm and Rubio the chosen by gopE!

so yea, whatever
Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (L1+sh)

adds, gope isn't that much into us.
it's COC all the way up and down.

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (L1+sh)

150 The RINO Christie endorses the David Duke endorsed RINO Trump. You scumbags should be proud of yourselves.

Posted by: Naes at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (Ypc8j)

Oh hi, Amishdude! I thought you were leaving?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (TOk1P)

151 136
105 Petunia we don't give one flying sex act if you are leaving the
party. We just want to know if you're leaving here. Please do.

Posted by: Buzzion at February 26, 2016 01:55 PM (Sz/sQ)

Fwying sex act???...pwease go on!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (INxoa)

152 >>>In Aces defense Rubio is not his guy.

in the interest of full transparency, I was so shocked at Trump's inability to cover up his complete lack of knowledge -- I always knew he lacked knowledge, but I thought maybe he could hide that enough to get elected -- that I now think Hillary clinton will destroy him. All she has to do is run Rubio's playbook against him.

I think Trump is a disaster in the making, now. I was open minded about it before. I'm not open minded about that now.

i'm not saying this to persuade anyone (I'll try that later). I'm just saying this now because I don't want anyone to be misled.

I *was* possibly Trump curious, and when people told me "If you keep supporting Cruz, Trump would win," I would say "So be it. I'm fine with it."

I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

153 Why isn't Cruz doing this?

Posted by: Iblis at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (9221z)

154 Did anyone watch after the debate? Trump cool and collected. The double attack didn't phase him one bit. That speaks volumes to me. And he talked about how much he 'loves' the debates. I really think he does. He likes the challenge. He likes the confrontation. He likes the battle. This is the man you want at the front of your country. Battling for US for once.

That is the attraction. Those that don't like Trump, see him as a charlatan who is only out for himself. What the rest of us see is a strong person, a fighter, who will fight for America and American citizens. It's almost impossible to convince me otherwise at this point.

How exactly does it benefit Trump to be hated by big business? politically correct press? the elites in the GOP? He has lost business since he started running. Would a man who is 'only out for himself' risk the business he built over decades? That is nonsense.

Posted by: K-E at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (OV2w5)

155
Trump admitted last night that he's under investigation for tax fraud or evasion and substantiated Romney's attack in the process and nobody has noticed it. When he was challenged to release his returns he argued he couldn't because the last 12 years returns are under audit by the IRS. The IRS can only go back 4 years unless they have reason to suspect criminal fraud or evasion.
It'd be nice if someone with a megaphone noticed this and invited some tax professionals to comment on it for the details and legalities. I'd also love to see some campaign ads hanging a "taxes are for the little people" sign on Trumps head along with the millions in fines for hiring illegals.

Posted by: allenlou at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (m3iiU)

156 I read that as inquisition is the sincerest form of flattery.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (qUNWi)

Nobody expects...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (493sH)

157 And Rubio's remarks were immediately followed by all of the news channels airing Trump's Ft Worth speech in it's entirety.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (8PbKi)

158 "
And please stop with the Mia Love. She went Dem-lite almost immediately after being elected."

what he said.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (MYe5B)

159 And this would deter Trump how, exactly?
Discuss.

It wouldn't, but I don't know it actual conservatives would vote for him because of her.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (gA69l)

160 Trump will make for one hell of a comedy central roast some day - because he's accomplished. Mario won't. Because making fun of retards isn't funny, it's cruel. Mario is an unaccomplished backstabbing attorney. Mario is telling jokes. Trump is just telling the truth. People are laughing at Trump. People are madder than fucking hell at Mario.

Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (VjlMj)

161 Hadoop, yes i know she flaked out on the study of obama.

Posted by: willow at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (L1+sh)

162 Well to those paying attention.

--

That right there is my problem. I feel like I'm at a traffic accident and the cop is arguing with the driver of the fire truck over where the fire truck is going to be parked, and ends up writing a ticket to the driver of the fire truck instead of investigating the traffic accident.

So I whip out my GoPro9000 to video the event for youtube and get arrested by the cop for interfering with police business.

It just seems like the prudent thing to do is walk away and let it burn.

Posted by: Basic Argyle at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (+XvV5)

163 Rubio would have destroyed Hillary.

Posted by: Lex

Bullshit. The only reason Trump is getting any traction is because these GOPe assholes fight us, and sometimes each other.

Rubio would still suck Shumers dick.

Only the Stupid party thinks that attacking each other and the peasants counts as fighting.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (326rv)

164 I will watch it in a minute, but is it too little too late?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (voOPb)

165 Rubio did great last night, but he's playing in Trump's sandbox here and I don't expect Rubio to be able to pull it off again, maybe once, but not twice, with the same success.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (8PbKi)

166 Trump admitted last night that he's under investigation for tax fraud or
evasion and substantiated Romney's attack in the process and nobody has
noticed it. When he was challenged to release his returns he argued he
couldn't because the last 12 years returns are under audit by the IRS.
The IRS can only go back 4 years unless they have reason to suspect
criminal fraud or evasion.

--

I'm working on my press release

Posted by: Hairy Reed at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (Qvgg/)

167 Rubio versus Hillary...

Let The Best Vagina Win!

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (aI+/q)

168
I'd be amused except for one thing.
While Trump being a con artist would be a "problem", nothing about what Rubio says here makes me think that Rubio is not a con artist.
Of the two, there is more concrete evidence of Rubio breaking political pledges.
So, basically all Marco can do is depress Republican turn out. He. can. not. win.
The GOPe doesn't even want to win.

Posted by: simplemind at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (JTwsP)

169 Ace's boy is Rubio??? Apparently a bunch of Trump sock puppets just showed up on this forum for the first time today.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (/GMrP)

170 This trump university thing is a real scandal.

I was imagining it was a $1200 course or something. Typical bullshit where someone stings you for $1200 and gives you a lame weekend of training in something at a Hiatt ballroom.

No. $36,000 to $60,000 for that kind of crap.

Think about that. Think about taking that much money from people, for some conferences in hotel meeting-rooms.

What kind of man does that? And how much money could trump have if he's running that kind of scam on people?

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (dciA+)

171 159 And this would deter Trump how, exactly?
Discuss.
It wouldn't, but I don't know it actual conservatives would vote for him because of her.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (gA69l)

Agreed.
How many actual conservatives are voting for him in the first place?

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (DofIg)

172 And please stop with the Mia Love. She went Dem-lite almost immediately after being elected."

what he said.
Posted by: redc1c4

Yet we are supposed to vote for the rest of the dem lite rino pack? At least with Love, you get a woman AND a woman of color. A two-fer.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:03 PM (wKcYr)

173 Hung out with some trust fund friends from college the other night. Good, unpretentious people.

All in for Kasich. Rubio seems too fake to the one and they're aesthetic liberals (most of the country is) with republican fiscal sensibilities so Cruz is out of the question. They just want to go back to the 90s, you dig?

Which means they're ready for Trump and just don't know it yet.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 26, 2016 02:03 PM (xuouz)

174 I'm not fine with it any longer.
Posted by: ace

yes, but you change your mind rather often.

Posted by: x at February 26, 2016 02:03 PM (nFwvY)

175
Trump will make for one hell of a comedy central roast some day - because he's accomplished.

Is this a joke? He's already been roasted.

Posted by: Hadoop at February 26, 2016 02:03 PM (2X7pN)

176 I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

Pardon the football metaphor, but this is like the undefeated team finally losing a ball game ( Trump losing a verbal sparring match) and everybody in the league is going to follow the playbook.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:03 PM (UnJ7w)

177 No. $36,000 to $60,000 for that kind of crap.

Parking and lunch were included.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (8ZskC)

178 This should have happened six months ago. Too late now, unfortunately. By by the time the Dems and the media are done with him come November, Trump will still have his Cult of 30%, but no more.

Posted by: Exile on Trump Street at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (Y8P5w)

179 Trump is just telling the truth. People are laughing at Trump. People are madder than fucking hell at Mario.
Posted by: Rastus

I don't agree with this. Trump can, has and is slinging shit.

What bothers me is yet again, Rubio will NOT use this on Hillary or Chuckie.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (326rv)

180 >>Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (VjlMj)

That analysis is every bit as cogent as I expected from someone who chose your handle.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (t5zYU)

181 Brutal.

"Friends do not let friends vote for con artists!"

I voted for Cruz, but I appreciate this speech from Rubio.

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (K27gs)

182 " When he was challenged to release his returns he argued he

couldn't because the last 12 years returns are under audit by the IRS.

The IRS can only go back 4 years unless they have reason to suspect

criminal fraud or evasion."

Wrong. Trump said last night he had been audited for 12 years in a row. Not that they were currently looking at 12 years' worth of returns. Get it right, please.

Posted by: K-E at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (OV2w5)

183 A lot of new nics here today.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (bZ7mE)

184 >> I was so shocked at Trump's inability to cover up his complete lack of knowledge

The self-proclaimed intellectuals just can't help but gravitate towards their own.

Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (VjlMj)

185 Yet we are supposed to vote for the rest of the dem lite rino pack? At least with Love, you get a woman AND a woman of color. A two-fer.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:03 PM (wKcYr)

Put Rubio in a dress and call him Caitlyn. First tranny VP. Beat that Dems

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (493sH)

186 Posted by: allenlou at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (m3iiU)

in the day and age of Obola, an IRS audit is a political weapon.

hell, the IRS *corrected* my taxes as submitted and paid me a refund based on their changes.

months later, 8-10 weeks after i signed a WH petition, i got a letter saying i wasn't supposed to have gotten a refund, and that i owed them the $$ they sent me, plus penalties interest.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (MYe5B)

187 Meh. Rubio got some digs in post OS reboot. I guess that's where we are in the unfiltered internet age. Entertaining or annoying, it's here to stay. Rubio was smart to change something - anything - because Trump was stealing his lunch money. Quick boost to his campaign.

But then Trump steps right in to step on the bubble within a half business day. Not a fan of Christie but it is an effective and timely blunt.

Net: Trump wins the hour and nothing changes.

It would be nice for some decorum to return to the process but we are a more hardened, roughened culture. Snark is a substitute for substance. Great for a blog. Not so great for public officers.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (1CroS)

188 I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

same here, about a debate or two ago when he started lying about Cruz

I can't take it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (qCMvj)

189 Getting pretty desperate when the main criticism you have of your opponent is spelling errors.

Posted by: Matt at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (zs6xP)

190 @160: "Trump will make for one hell of a comedy central roast some day ..."

See March 2011. Seth MacFarlane hosted.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (21hN3)

191 >>
"Trump is a result of the party running left."

This AND being insulted and trolled by Obama for the last 7 years.

People are shocked by how in your face Trump is (including me), but we've been on the receiving end of it for years. Obama just does it with more finesse. Trump is the equivalent of punching back twice as hard. Had the GOPe stood up to Obama people wouldn't be flocking to the one guy who finally is, despite him not being a conservative and often cringe-inducing.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 26, 2016 02:05 PM (NOIQH)

192 >>>I will watch it in a minute, but is it too little too late?

it could be.

I'm pissed at Rubio still for being a coward. Establishment pundits claimed last night that "Finally, Cruz and Rubio realized they had to attack Trump, not each other."

Hey assholes-- Cruz has been attacking Trump for more than a month. But when he's been in debates, he couldn't focus on Trump because Rubio was attacking him, and meanwhile, Rubio was too cowardly to attack Trump. He just wanted someone else to attack Trump.

last night was the first night RUBIO attacked Trump, not the first night Cruz did.

That said, when Rubio attacked, wow, he attacked.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)

193 BurtTC, what do you mean, I'm one of those? Immigration isn't my big issue. That'd be our fiscal problems. But if you're a Trump supporter, you obviously think that the white working class (not to the exclusion of other races, but it's mostly downscale whites who have been adversely affected by globalization) has gotten a raw deal, and Trump is pretending to be their savior. See, e.g., "I love the poorly educated!" Except that's, perhaps, the biggest crock of shit ever sold to the American public. He's a billionaire, trust fund baby elitist Manhattanite douche, who hasn't worked a day in his life, and has actively hired lots of legal and illegal immigrants.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 02:05 PM (KIvt1)

194 I don't "back" anyone in this election, at least not happily... But this was some real ass kicking..... Amusing to say the least....

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:05 PM (/dSsq)

195 "He has been exposed."

Which is why I've been saying that his team picks will be crucial to America believing he won't be a disaster.

As a candidate, Hillary is an even bigger disaster.

Posted by: Feh at February 26, 2016 02:05 PM (QFRx/)

196 I'm a bit worried so many conservatives are getting behind Trump so enthusiastically. He's a rich social liberal who all of a sudden, talks like a conservative.

This makes him better than Cruz and Rubio for what reason?

Posted by: MacGruber at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (C278+)

197 True, but like I posted up thread, Rush Limbaugh just blared this video to his 20 million listeners in his post debate opening monologue.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (UnJ7w)

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Rush is starting the show on a light note. It is a funny video. But I imagine that Rush would admit that this isn't going to make any difference on the outcome of this election.

Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (Fmupd)

198 "...DailyKos is thataway -------->"

+1

Posted by: Skeezix at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (WnCSK)

199 I find this interesting in that someone's said that Trump has held fire on Rubio because Rubio has not fired on Trump.

Not sure how true that is ... but now is definitely a time of open fire.

Bring out the popcorn!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (uURQL)

200 Getting pretty desperate when the main criticism you have of your opponent is spelling errors.

--

The greatest journey begins with a small step

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (Qvgg/)

201 Yet we are supposed to vote for the rest of the dem lite rino pack? At least with Love, you get a woman AND a woman of color. A two-fer.

Not sure if that's a draw with undecideds, though.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (kFnmp)

202 > That analysis is every bit as cogent as I expected from someone who chose your handle.

Thanks for noticing!

Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (VjlMj)

203 I'm actually surprised this wasn't another "Trump's done" thread.

Some progress at least.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (WVsWD)

204 It wouldn't, but I don't know it actual conservatives would vote for him because of her.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:01 PM (gA69l)

______

Any actual conservatives that sit home and give the win to Hillary can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (0LHZx)

205 imbecil.

Posted by: ... at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (fscqy)

206 If Mario promises to not sign into law any immigration reform, short of enforcement, in his first term with the premise that he will run for reelection on his record of finally fixing the border... than I can 100% support him.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (UypUQ)

207 170 This trump university thing is a real scandal.

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So now that you've fully flipped GOPe, you're going to rerun their plays from the last six months to get up to date and in good standing?

Posted by: SomeGuy at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (FpNC5)

208 i'm not saying this to persuade anyone (I'll try that later). I'm just saying this now because I don't want anyone to be misled.

===

That's cool. You should know its less likely for Trump supporters to back Cruz or Rubio.

Posted by: Bigby's Punchbug Blue at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (3ZtZW)

209 Got willowed -

It was really weird watching Rubio this morning. For some reason CBSN (streaming) devoted about a half hour to Mario who was doing nothing but slamming Trump in the most juvenile fashion imaginable. Spelling in tweets, his Wharton education, sweat, mirror, etc.�

It just seemed like petty stuff. Made me think even less of Rubio - if that's possible.

Posted by: mega machines at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (fbovC)

210 That said, when Rubio attacked, wow, he attacked.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:05 PM (dciA+)

Too late, and drowned out by the first of what I suspect will be some continued big endorsements.

All the twitter activity is now about Christy.

What debate?

Tick-Tock. Tuesday is almost here and Trump is ticking even further upward in today's polls.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (TFWFz)

211 Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

_____________________________________

None of that is correct. Trump is the anti-candidate, and Shillary is a disciple of Satan. Eight years of Obama and nobody cares what the anti-candidate says or does when running against Cankles the Devourer. It only matters that he is the anti-candidate.

Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (rsudF)

212 If you're a Trump supporter, I wouldn't watch this

Ace of Spades: Now with Trigger Warnings!

Posted by: Michal at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (KClXw)

213 Trump is going full retard now.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (/tuJf)

214 To be honest, regarding the "debate" last night (which all have been, with one exception I cannot remember, clown shows)...Dr. Carson, by not saying much, won. xoxo

Again, and I repeat, is there anyone reading this, who would be onstage with EVERYONE throwing grenades at you, not be defensive? You'd just stand there, meekly, and agree? Come on.

And while I am on this roll (must be the poison antibiotic), I don't care who wins. Will vote (R), but this time without freaking out as whatever. Can we beat the illegal Clinton machine? Oh! Here is my question...."Do you really think Trump, or for that matter, anyone on that stage, will do worse than what we have in the WH now?" Really? You think Trump would be worse than Oblahblah? I just can't see him golfing when he could be going to Justice Scalia's funeral. Can't see him golfing during the raid on Osama. Can't see him...oh, wait, we don't know what he was doing during Benghazi! Can't see him giving Iran all they want like stupid Kerry and Co.

And the polls vs Hillary. Oh, the effing polls eight months from the election!!!! Oh, yes, this keeps me up at night/NOT.

Perhaps there is some type of steroid in this antibiotic as I am feeling even more cranky than the Hillary Virus of the week (which I told my doc I had: coughing fits and severe cranky-pants. He laughed).

Y'all try to behave and, hail, just go with it. Lie back and think of Ace. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (wAMRL)

215 Just found out the evil robot witch is in Atlanta. First I heard of it, I'm wondering how I could have missed all the excitement.

Of course she was mocking a state proposal to allow guns on campuses here in evil robot witch voice with a touch of southern/black accent. I must say she really knows how to harangue a crowd. Makes me almost feel sorry for Bill.

Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (1BQGO)

216 196 I'm a bit worried so many conservatives are getting behind Trump so enthusiastically. He's a rich social liberal who all of a sudden, talks like a conservative.

This makes him better than Cruz and Rubio for what reason?
Posted by: MacGruber at February 26, 2016 02:06 PM (C278+)

_____

The word starts with am and ends with nesty.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (0LHZx)

217 P.S. I used the term "Trump bros," because I feel like Trumpkins is too dismissive of Trump supporters, and I try not to insult people right off the bat when I'm trying to engage them in conversation.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (KIvt1)

218 Rubio has the timber of a kid whining to Mom why its unfair that he doesn't get to stay up 'til 10:00.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (oVJmc)

219

Boy. Trump is on CNN. He is a master.

Posted by: ThunderB at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (bmx6I)

220 Weird how Rubio's Gang of Eight involvement hurts him, but Trumps support of the same pols in the gang doesn't.

Posted by: JROD at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (wnwJC)

221 Did Cruz get out?

Abducted by aliens?

He's my co-number 1, dang it.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (3myMJ)

222 "Pardon the football metaphor, but this is like the undefeated team
finally losing a ball game ( Trump losing a verbal sparring match) and
everybody in the league is going to follow the playbook."

I don't think he's talking about "exposed," as in how to beat him politically. I think he means exposed for who he actually is. Whether people are actually paying attention to who he is is a different matter.

Posted by: Myself at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (5wiU6)

223 Is Daily Kos still a thing? (Koz? Kos?)

Hell, is Little Green Whatsis still a thing?

Posted by: Kensington at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (7Kbxu)

224 it gets brutally funny at

Didn't measure up to your usual level of funny.

I was so shocked at Trump's inability to cover up his complete lack of knowledge --

Apparently I'll have to read the debate threads.

Posted by: DaveA at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (DL2i+)

225 Too late. He needed to do this about 3-4 weeks ago.

But, to be honest, it would not be easy to make this decision to go after Trump this way.

Its easier to see in hindsight.

Posted by: Harun at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (UBBWX)

226 154 Re: Trump cool and collected...

Being from the South but also having been assigned to NYC for two tours of duty it is safe to say that what Chuck Schumer's bitch tried to do to Trump last night did not even register on Trump when all is said and done.

Trump is a New Yorker through and through(said with genuine respect). You'd think they(New Yorkers) were going to kill each other at work then they'd re to lunch together and act as if nothing happened....it really is all about the deal..as Trump said 'it all is just business'--ie kicking ass and sometimes having to put up with shit weasels like Papa Schumer's offspring.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (aI+/q)

227 Getting pretty desperate when the main criticism you have of your opponent is spelling errors.

Their is no room in this race for that if all there going to do is criticize they're opponents spelling.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (wKcYr)

228
All the twitter activity is now about Christy.

Yes. I'm sure everyone was clamoring for the coveted Crispy Cream endorsement...

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (/dSsq)

229
I'm a choker
I'm a smoker
I'm a midnight toker
I sure don't want to hurt no one

Posted by: Super Mario at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (FkBIv)

230 >>207 If Mario promises to not sign into law any immigration reform, short of enforcement,

Why would you take him at his word when he hasn't owned up to Gang of Eight? Dude's rolled out about half a dozen stories, none of them true.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (t5zYU)

231 I'm a bit worried so many conservatives are getting behind Trump so enthusiastically.

The geniuses running the GOPe get all the credit.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (8ZskC)

232 in the interest of full transparency, I was so
shocked at Trump's inability to cover up his complete lack of knowledge
-- I always knew he lacked knowledge, but I thought maybe he could hide
that enough to get elected -- that I now think Hillary clinton will
destroy him. All she has to do is run Rubio's playbook against him.

I think Trump is a disaster in the making, now. I was open minded about it before. I'm not open minded about that now.

i'm not saying this to persuade anyone (I'll try that later). I'm just saying this now because I don't want anyone to be misled.

I *was* possibly Trump curious, and when people told me "If you keep
supporting Cruz, Trump would win," I would say "So be it. I'm fine with
it."

I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

I'm not sure I understand why you would need Trump to provide you with content. I understand if you've decided he HAD to, and he hasn't, that this would mean you aren't supporting him. But he never provided content, and really has been consistent about not doing so.

To me though, jumping into Rufio's corner at this point would be like having tried to figure out some chick, only to have her keep being coy with you about her character, and then you decide you're going to start banging dudes because you couldn't get her to open up about herself.

Eh, no. Rufio is not an option. He's the disaster up with which I will not put.

Kill the Gope, destroy the Rufio. The two are not open for debate.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (TOk1P)

233 The problem is that every good candidate (read: governor) got out to preserve viability for 2020. The polling was scary and they didn't want to risk losing early states to Trump like the remaining candidates did. Kasich has no more chances and none this year anyways. At this point it's Trump's to win and it won't be over after Super Tuesday but I think at that point it's hoping for a miracle or a brokered convention.
Last night was a dismaying shit show across the board for a late cycle debate (at least for me), but the chattering I have overheard is how entertaining it was. We are a reality TV nation, maybe it's time for reality TV President?

TRA LA LA
LA LA LA LA
TRUMP LUMP LUMP
LUMP LUMP LUMP PLUMP

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (zRnNY)

234 -
128 And please stop with the Mia Love. She went Dem-lite almost immediately after being elected.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 01:57 PM (
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That's disappointing. What has she been doing?

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (zxnPQ)

235 I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

Maybe Trump should take a few years off, study domestic and foreign policy, practice debating and then come back when he doesn't embarrass you.

We could get someone in office who can roll political-speak off their tongue without trying and have the socially accepted answer for everything.

Of course, they will do the same shit every other politician has done in the past 10 decades, making sure nothing changes, but at least we could avoid awkward feelings you're experiencing.

Boy, that fucking Obama sure talked purdy.

Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (Zs4uk)

236 True, but like I posted up thread, Rush Limbaugh just blared this video to his 20 million listeners in his post debate opening monologue.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:59 PM (UnJ7w)

oh, that's where i heard it
thx

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (qCMvj)

237 Rubio is done

Trump said he was a scared little boy and not too bright

He said Cruz was tough and very very smart

Posted by: ThunderB at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (bmx6I)

238 Rubio and Cruz are both great campaigners, it's just a shame both of them are running this cycle.

Looks like the GOP will probably end up nominating the one guy in the field of maybe 5 viable candidates who actually loses to all the others head to head -- and will be obliterated in the general because he's radioactive with Dems and Inds.

Be a lot of interesting post-mortems on this race if Trump wins, particularly looking at the states where he won 100% of the delegates with

At this point the best hope might be Trump is indicted or adjudicated insane before the general and faithless delegates throw it to Rubio.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (74ZYB)

239 The right choice for him would have been Rubio or Susanna Martinez to help counter the fact that he's an old white guy

Screw the racial pandering.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (uURQL)

240 The thing is, this isn't really Trump's game. Its part of what he does, but mostly he connects with voters the way Ace has written about a couple of times. Instead of being a policy wonk, he's the only guy in the race other than a radical old socialist crank that speaks the language of the people's rage and fear. Trump is the guy that is talking about the stuff people care most about. Making fun of him won't make that go away.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)

241 >>>It is like chess really; Rubio mocks Trump and gains an edge (maybe) - Trump trots out Christie and sucks all the air time from Rubio - Christie starts hammering Rubio - Rubio has to fight two battles.

Posted by: IC at February 26, 2016 01:49 PM (a0IVu)

***

After selling Rubio his donor mailing list.

Now *that*'s comedy.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (bpn7O)

242 221 Did Cruz get out?

Abducted by aliens?
--

He's in Nashville doing a couple of events, including a 1-hr "town hall" style thing with Hannity which I think airs tonight.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (t5zYU)

243 >>The word starts with am and ends with nasty.

You do realize Trump supports amnesty, right?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (/tuJf)

244 it is safe to say that what Chuck Schumer's bitch tried to do to Trump last night did not even register on Trump when all is said and done.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (aI+/q)

And to think that Trump knew through the entire debate that he was rolling out Christie within 12 hours.

Chess vs. checkers.

Posted by: Wonk with Pigtails at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (TFWFz)

245 I have been pretty clear that I am a Cruz supporter. That being said - I was amazed at how bad Trump was last night. I have watched all of the debates and have never seen Trump so rattled, boorish bordering on schoolyard stupidity, and constantly repeating the same shtick over and over again about his "greatness" as I did last night.

Posted by: Cheri at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (oiNtH)

246 Trump University has shown he can make conning people out of their money great again.

Posted by: Hank at February 26, 2016 02:10 PM (xVYeR)

247 I'm a bit worried so many conservatives are getting behind Trump so enthusiastically. He's a rich social liberal who all of a sudden, talks like a conservative.

This makes him better than Cruz and Rubio for what reason?

frustration & let it burn

Posted by: brak at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (MJuTN)

248 Presidential material right there. Almost as funny as prezzy Phuckstick. What's next? The one finger salute? Maybe a huge fly on his cheek? Cruz is he only adult left.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (ucDmr)

249 Boy. Trump is on CNN. He is a master.

He's flailing and flop sweating.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (/GMrP)

250 That's disappointing. What has she been doing?

Mark Levin was saying her votes have been really left of center, and she has been cozying up to the establishment crowd.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (kFnmp)

251 Precious Mario with his petite little hands (and floppy ears) does not understand the trouble that real men with manly hands have type on a smart phone.

Posted by: tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (A3a8d)

252 I'm hoping that Rubio and Trump will get dragged down in the mud with each other and Cruz will go largely ignored by both of them and therefor emerge as the viable alternative for a majority of GOP primary voters in the Super Tuesday states. But things I want to happen politically rarely happen. Here's to hoping though, right?

Posted by: Serenity Now! at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (BDZWU)

253 >>>boorish bordering on schoolyard stupidity

Oh i think it was more than bordering.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (dciA+)

254 >>>Getting pretty desperate when the main criticism you have of your opponent is spelling errors.

Not so desperate when Trump corrects those misspellings. Can't deny Mario didn't give Trump a fat lip.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (UnJ7w)

255 They say CC's endorsement neutralized Rubio's attacks on the thread that this one stomped on.

Posted by: scorecard at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (j2xmV)

256 I'm honestly not picking a fight, Ace. Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (dciA+)

But look up Ron LeGrande (sp ?) et al. This a giant industry. Have a client who is a Ron LeGrande wannabe and I actually feel bad when his students order stuff from us. I always give them discounts because I wonder where they are getting the money from but they will buy anything. Books, CDs, apps.

It's insane.

Posted by: Nora at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (hcTg0)

257 Funny Mario, funny.

You should have been doing this months ago, all of you should have.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (voOPb)

258 Any actual conservatives that sit home and give the win to Hillary can go fuck themselves

Really? While I will always vote, if Jebbie the Hutt was the GOP candidate, I would've wrote in someone else's name. If you have a problem with that, too bad.

Posted by: Hadoop at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (2X7pN)

259 I'm into this Rubio thing 58 seconds and I'm looking for the promised fun and delivered standard Rubio b.s.

This Reagan conservative revolution centered on smaller government upon which so much is based. What is it? Reagan grew government like all presidents around him. He spent his ass off. He didn't shrink anything. Please, I beg you, stop lying to me this way through axioms that are easily challengeable. An idealized memory of Reagan and the actual historic Reagan are different things here and I'm quite sick and tired of hearing about this secular saint and all the mythology around him.

He was Democrat, like Trump is Democrat at heart. He was an actor. An actor! You hired a goddamn actor! And one who spoke endlessly about, and you MUST recall this, spoke endlessly about the Panama Canal NOT going back to Panama because Panama cannot be trusted with something so important.

They omit arms to Central America against Congressional direction. And they omit unacceptable arms trade for hostages. Two important omissions in with these verbal hagiographies.

I'm saying, be real. Or I'll vote for someone equally unreal and lot more satisfying. Not an Eagle Scout eager to hook up and work into Washington system. Too eager, Boy, too eager to play with the grownups when we're looking for someone to knock them around.

Back to video and he's got 30 seconds to bring it.

Posted by: bour3 at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (5x3+2)

260 128 And please stop with the Mia Love. She went Dem-lite almost immediately after being elected.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Doesn't matter.

Everyone seems to forget. So let me repeat the Wisdom of Past Novembers:

Every general election is a choice between two terrible, unacceptable alternatives.

Well, let me amend that to "Almost every" -- on rare occasions, each party's activists get whom they want (Reagan in '80; Obama in '0

. But aside from the rare exceptions, nomination fights almost always result in some hideous "compromise" candidate that wasn't anybody's true first pick.

Let me tell you something: 60% of Democrats absolutely DESPISE Hillary Clinton. She is not a popular woman, even among her own purported "constituency." Instead, Hillary is the Dem's "Compromise candidate," the one whom they think has the best chance of winning in November. They will pull the lever for her, but most will be holding their noses while doing so.

Why? Because the alternative, Trump, is Satan Incarnate in their scheme of things.

Now, for our side, it's the same thing in reverse.

When faced with Trump Vs. Hillary in Nov., will you in all seriousness let Hillary Clinton win? As bad as you may think Trump is (and I'd agree with you on most points), Hillary is another order of magnitude more nightmarish.

Try as we might, we peons cannot control the Republican nomination process. I would have wanted Cruz to win. I am a solid Cruz voter. But by the time the California primary rolls around, Trump will already have sewn up the nomination. So my primary vote is meaningless.

The only choice facing me is: Hillary or Trump?

Both are horrible candidate, neither my first choice.

So, among these two devils, who is the lesser evil? That's my only decision. And the answer is, obviously, Trump.

Posted by: zombie at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (jBuUi)

261

Trump's playing all of those "negotiation" tricks.

Today is no different. He's doing the water off a ducks back thing right now. Mocking Rubio, while pumping up Cruz as tough.

The media cycle/circus continues.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (qCMvj)

262 182" When he was challenged to release his returns he argued he

couldn't because the last 12 years returns are under audit by the IRS.

The IRS can only go back 4 years unless they have reason to suspect

criminal fraud or evasion."

Wrong. Trump said last night he had been audited for 12 years in a row. Not that they were currently looking at 12 years' worth of returns. Get it right, please.
Posted by: K-E at February 26, 2016 02:04 PM (OV2w5)Then something else is wrong with his taxes and his accountants suck. The IRS can't audit you for 12 years for giggles and his lawyers should have done the paperwork to get them off his back 9 years ago. Plus the argument this is Obama IRS weaponized is missing that this would have started midway through the Bush administration when Trump was still a Democrat supporter and carried through Obamas entire term.

Posted by: allenlou at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (m3iiU)

263 BY the way, Trump started Praising Cruz at the Christie endorsement. Donald is all over the place.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (UnJ7w)

264 But hey, keep in mind, Cruz and Rubio are both young. Either can defeat Hillary in 2020 after four years of her train wreck.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (74ZYB)

265 The only solid proposal Trump has had is a wall that will never get built. And which would do very little anyway since our immigration enforcement is a joke.

Posted by: brak at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (MJuTN)

266 >>The word starts with am and ends with nesty.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (0LHZx)<<
Question:
Do you think Trump will live up to his promise, especially considering he used illegal immigrants at one resort, and then brought in a bunch of H1B foreign workers instead of hiring American ones at another site?He says he's against abortion, but was all for it in the past. He thinks his pro-abortion sister would be a great pick for SCOTUS. He thinks Planned Parenthood is great.So how can we trust Trump will build a huge wall that will keep out all the illegals - and look great - all the while getting Mexico to pay for it.

Posted by: MacGruber at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (C278+)

267 Why did it take them so long to do this?

*shakes head*

It's like these politicians do not know how to politics:

Attack your opponent. When attacked, attack your opponent. Attack some more and keep attacking your opponent.

Is it that esoteric a concept?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsor of the 2016 Trump of Doom Tour! at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (hLRSq)

268 Zombie - I'd vote for Trump before Hillary, obviously. I'm a Cruz supporter, but Hillary would be worse than anyone in the GOP field.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (kFnmp)

269 BTW, though I invite mocking with this statement, I'm putting it out there.

Whilst Cruz and Rubio made nice with Trump, at least Jeb Bush made a effort in prior debates. Cruz and Rubio should have been tagging in then.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (8PbKi)

270 I missed the debate, so can't "admit" Trump did terribly. I don't see where he was shown to be clueless on policy.

Mostly I saw the two Cubans going at him high speed, mostly with little substance. Rubio wants Trump to have his ties made in America even though it is DC that sold out our garment industry. Some industries can compete here, some cannot.

Cruz "proved" Trump had said he was for taking out Ghadaffi, but the proof was from after the point where we had turned on Ghadaffi and he was fighting against our "freedom fighters" and slaughtering innocents. Trump then said to intervene on a humanitarian basis, with a surgical strike. We waited too long. But Cruz has his timeline off. Trump had Ghadaffi stay in that big tent on his own property in 2009.

There were some blows to Trump, but no knock outs, nothing really new.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (eUbDe)

271 If the GOP hadn't dismissed and denigrated the Tea Party, tried to pass amnesty, abandoned their principles with respect to fiscal matters and rolled over for Obama time and time again, there would be no Trump. And I believe Trump will govern as a deal maker, compromising as much as the GOP did on everything, including immigration, I guess we'll see.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (TJCSB)

272 I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

Yup.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (Xd2w5)

273 253 >>>boorish bordering on schoolyard stupidity

Oh i think it was more than bordering.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM (dciA+)

He had Boorico build him a new wall.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (voOPb)

274 Boy. I don't see anyway out of this. Trump will be the nom

Posted by: ThunderB at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (bmx6I)

275 P.S. I used the term "Trump bros," because I feel
like Trumpkins is too dismissive of Trump supporters, and I try not to
insult people right off the bat when I'm trying to engage them in
conversation.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (KIvt1)

You're so cute, I could just pinch your cheeks.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (TOk1P)

276 Oh, and I lost track of what I was saying in #260:

I think Mia Love's gender, attractiveness and skin tone will massively help Trump in the general election. her politics? Her position? Irrelevant.

Posted by: zombie at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (jBuUi)

277 This is good practice for Trump, though. This kind of thing beating him up makes him have to study, learn, focus, and know things. Doing it now makes him more ready in the general because I really don't see him losing still. I don't think this really hurts him all that much.

But we'll see. As much as I dislike Trump and think he'd be a huge disappointing RINO left/centrist like Schwarzenegger who does nothing to stop immigration, I do think he's the one most likely to win over Hillary. And for the sake of my sanity and the concept of justice and right, that woman must not be rewarded with more power.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)

278 -
250 That's disappointing. What has she been doing?

Mark Levin was saying her votes have been really left of center, and she has been cozying up to the establishment crowd.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:11 PM
-----------

Lovely. I guess I should have expected it.

Posted by: irright at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (zxnPQ)

279
Their is no room in this race for that if all there going to do is criticize they're opponents spelling.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (wKcYr)

I kood care less about this.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:14 PM (0LHZx)

280 "I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.
"

I'm feeling the same way and have come around to a Cruz/ Rubio alliance. Please don't kill me guys.

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2016 02:14 PM (vA1V9)

281 Do you think Trump will live up to his promise,

He may or may not.
I know for certain that the GOPe won't.
They haven't done it for the last 30 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:14 PM (wKcYr)

282 Wow.. that was good!

Where's THAT Rubio been for 6 months???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 26, 2016 02:14 PM (so+oy)

283 Dr. Spank is correct. If you want to blame the rise of Trump on anyone, blame the GOP. They created this monster, and whatever happens now is on them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:14 PM (kFnmp)

284 263 BY the way, Trump started Praising Cruz at the Christie endorsement. Donald is all over the place.
---

Probably trying to get Rubio to redirect his fire back onto Cruz.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:15 PM (t5zYU)

285 281 "I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.
"

I'm feeling the same way and have come around to a Cruz/ Rubio alliance. Please don't kill me guys

Lauren, Me too, but less than enthusiastically....

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:15 PM (/dSsq)

286 >>Do you think Trump will live up to his promise, especially considering he used illegal immigrants at one resort, and then brought in a bunch of H1B foreign workers instead of hiring

I believe he will live up to his promise. He will do touchback amnesty just like he has promised.

He's only got one policy position, how do people not know this?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:15 PM (/tuJf)

287 Do you think Trump will live up to his promise, especially considering he used illegal immigrants at one resort, and then brought in a bunch of H1B foreign workers instead of hiring American ones at another site?He says he's against abortion, but was all for it in the past. He thinks his pro-abortion sister would be a great pick for SCOTUS. He thinks Planned Parenthood is great.So how can we trust Trump will build a huge wall that will keep out all the illegals - and look great - all the while getting Mexico to pay for it.
Posted by: MacGruber at February 26, 2016 02:12 PM (C278+)

____

Will he do 100% of what he says? Of course no, nobody ever does. But if he does 30% of what he says regarding illegals it's more than any other Republican has done since Eisenhower.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:15 PM (0LHZx)

288 Why is Trump University raising anyone's hackles when Trump has been a casino magnate for decades?!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (21hN3)

289 OK... I will never vote for Rubio for President but that was true and great.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (NPofj)

290 If Rubio's on Adderall, what the hell is Trump on right now?

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (/GMrP)

291 If the GOP hadn't dismissed and denigrated the Tea Party, tried to pass amnesty, abandoned their principles with respect to fiscal matters and rolled over for Obama time and time again,...

The time for vengeance has passed.

The time for vigilance has come.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (Xd2w5)

292 Oh gawd, he's going to hug me...

Posted by: Donald's Got a Crusher at February 26, 2016 01:48 PM (mcm0N)

That's why Trump is hiring Christie! Run Marco! Christie wants a hug and he looks hungry!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsor of the 2016 Trump of Doom Tour! at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (hLRSq)

293 Probably trying to get Rubio to redirect his fire back onto Cruz.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:15 PM (t5zYU)

Yeah probably, but possibly punch drunk from Mario going dump truck on him last night and this morning.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (UnJ7w)

294 So now that you've fully flipped GOPe, you're going to rerun their plays from the last six months to get up to date and in good standing?

Calling everyone who isn't all aboard with Trump a GOPe shill is one of the reasons why I went from Trump-friendly to fairly anti-Trump (the other reason being Trump being himself). The idea that someone might disagree for legitimate reasons is apparently unthinkable.

Between this and the "social signaling" stuff being trotted out ad nauseum, I'm thinking that there isn't much intellectual difference between right and left these days.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (bZ7mE)

295 I'm a bit worried so many conservatives are getting behind Trump so enthusiastically.

The geniuses running the GOPe get all the credit.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

I'm not behind any of them, and I'm sure as Hell not enthusiastic about this election cycle.

But i agree that the GOPe deserves the credit for this.

I once read a critique of the argument regarding the notion that the ACW lasted as long as it did because Lincoln was "sadled with political generals". And some of them were disasters. But many of the biggest disasters the North suffered (and the South as well) were presided over by West pointers.

This seems appropriate now.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (326rv)

296 Oh, and one of the things which bothered me about Mia Love is she voted to retain Boehner on her first day in office. Stellar beginning there, Mia.

She also endorsed Mario.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (kFnmp)

297 >>>To me though, jumping into Rufio's corner at this point

i'm not in his corner; I hope Cruz wins. I hope Rubio's attacks take their toll on trump.

However, let me tell you how seriously last night affected me: The idea of candidates staying in just to deny trump 1237 delegates (needed to win) so we can have a brokered convention where the establishment would pick a nominee used to strike me as monstrous.

I'm okay with it now. The rules are if you get to 1237, you win. If you don't make that, it goes to the second ballot, and the party decides. Those are the rules. There is no "close enough."

So if Cruz and Rubio stay in and just beat the shit out of trump to keep him at 1100 or fewer delegates, I'm now okay with that.

I can't get behind this guy. He's not just a liberal; he's a completely uninformed liberal who can't even announce the most basic parts of his liberal policies.

he's also not very hardcore on amnesty. he's still promising to let all the deported illegals back in, which Ted Cruz is saying will NOT happen.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (dciA+)

298 And for the sake of my sanity and the concept of justice and right, that woman must not be rewarded with more power.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)

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A - fucking - men!

Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (Fmupd)

299 >>>can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?

Posted by: ace

***

Trump had a bad night.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (bpn7O)

300 168---The GOPe doesn't even want to win.
Posted by: simplemind at February 26, 2016 02:02 PM (JTwsP)
----------------------------
Don't be ridiculous. Patronage is the coin, the prize, of politics. They want to hold the House and Senate because of all the extra minions they get to hire when they're the majority.

Above all, they want the WH. Thousands and thousands of jobs for little Johnny and cousin Mary and pal Rufus.
Not to mention the expanded opportunities for graft and corruption (legal or otherwise.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (T/5A0)

301 268 Zombie - I'd vote for Trump before Hillary, obviously. I'm a Cruz supporter, but Hillary would be worse than anyone in the GOP field.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 26, 2016 02:13 PM (kFnmp)

Hillary Clinton (and Bernie Sanders) are the real reason for the increased turnout in the Republican side this year.

I think it has little to do with any of the R candidates, with the possible exception of Cruz.

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (DofIg)

302 Lov e the three wrds a minute typg pixy.

Posted by: Meremortal at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (3myMJ)

303 So is Rubio firmly the anti-Trump candidate?

Posted by: Adrienne at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (lVcuh)

304 I'm not a Rubio guy, but he finally did what had to be done. Wasting ammunition on Cruz was getting him nowhere.

You have to take down Trump, and it can't be done by arguing with policy because Trump has none. He is a policy ignoramus who loves half the crap the Reds in the Democrat party do.

The only way to fight Trump is to kick him in the balls, repeatedly, until he mercifully goes away.

I agree with Ace entirely, in that I was Trump tolerant for a time, and I even defended him. He has been instructive in so far as how to handle the media, but beyond that he is a mess.

I only hope Cruz and Rubio call a ceasefire and spend every waking moment roasting this blowhard.

Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (CgF8Y)

305 How many rallies does Rubio have to throw to equal a Trump rally in terms of numbers? Also, does anyone REALLY think this is going to cause people to vote for Rubio or not vote for Trump?

Posted by: Tootsie-Pop at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (8EJen)

306 >>Dr. Spank is correct. If you want to blame the rise of Trump on anyone, blame the GOP. They created this monster, and whatever happens now is on them.

The GOP may have opened the door for Trump but nobody is forcing anyone to support him. That's all on his supporters.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (/tuJf)

307 @263: "By the way, Trump started Praising Cruz at the Christie endorsement. Donald is all over the place."

Kinda obvious that he's propping up third place for his own advantage, no?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (21hN3)

308 235 Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 02:09 PM (Zs4uk)

Exactly. At least half the argument is about aesthetics and social signaling.

Posted by: SomeGuy at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (FpNC5)

309 "Do you think Trump will live up to his promise..."

I'll give him the benfit of the doubt. Fucking Hillary...we KNOW what she will do.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (WnCSK)

310 last night was the first night RUBIO attacked Trump, not the first night Cruz did.

===

He had a meeting with his former mentor, Jeb, just prior to the debate. Likely handed over a dossier and gave a command on behalf of The Family.

Posted by: Bigby's Punchbug Blue at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (3ZtZW)

311 Ace -- at this point, even though I like and have even donated to Cruz, and the "Crus should drop out" stuff is all bullshit, I would be thrilled if Ted stood up and said "You know what, this race is bigger than me. I am endorsing Marco."

I don't think it will happen, if only because Cruz is in better position in TX than Marco is with FL, but it would be great for the country and maybe for Cruz' long-term prospects.

And it's sort of what Romney did in 2008, when he still had a chance against McCain.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (74ZYB)

312 Trump had a bad night.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (bpn7O)

____

Yes!! Trump is finished (for the 177th time).

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (0LHZx)

313 >>He's only got one policy position, how do people not know this?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:15 PM (/tuJf)<<
I believe it was Simon Garfunkel who sang: "people hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest."

Posted by: MacGruber at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (C278+)

314 Ace,

I'm getting mixed vibes from your comments in the thread.

Are you now aboard the Mario Express?

I hear his garbage now includes a freshly torn pair of fishnet hose used by a Thai Trannie.

NTTAWWT.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (0cMkb)

315 Cruz is my guy but if he drops out now and endorses Rubio, we have a chance to win this thing.

Otherwise it's Hello Cankles. Ugh.

Posted by: Dirt McGirt at February 26, 2016 01:44 PM (haMR6)

It's ok to admit Rubio is your guy... we will only mock you a little:-P

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (NPofj)

316 Mark Levin was saying her votes have been really left of center, and she has been cozying up to the establishment crowd.
---

It's Utah politics. The GOP in Utah is for open borders and compassionate conservatism.

The fact that Mike Lee has managed to stay neutral between Cruz and Rubio when Rubio is clearly the pick of the Utah GOP and most of the Mormon heavy hitters is a testament to his political character, frankly.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (t5zYU)

317
I look forward to the trump/christie v hillary/some commie general election.

(not really)

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (ODxAs)

318 Ah, so Ace comes around to Trump's not ok now because he has a lack of knowledge.

Except Ace is exposed every time. Remember Ace's hissy fit b/c Trump said he would call for federal death penalty for copkillers in liberal jurisdictions that didn't have it.

Ace lost it. Trump's a fascist. A dictator. An idiot. Except who was ignorant Ace?? Under longstanding legal precedent this is perfectly legal for any PD that accepted federal funds.

Let's make this clear - I'll take my chances with a man who has built a $10B international business empire to have the best advisors in the world on all issues over an internet blogger who rails at Trump being ignorant, but instead himself is ignorant on everything he "outrages" on.

And don't fool yourselves folks, Ace is soon coming with his "I really like Cruz but guys who are we kidding no one likes him we have to rally behind Rubio post".

Enough with this. YOU FUCKING LOSE. And it feels great.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (7QkL1)

319 Where is the line where people should just vote for the party instead of with their conscience? If Michael Bloomberg ran as a Republican would I owe him my vote? Or is it different because Donald Trump is not a politician?

Posted by: Myself at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (5wiU6)

320 Rubio/Haley

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (so+oy)

321 >>>This is good practice for Trump, though. This kind of thing beating him up makes him have to study, learn, focus, and know things.

dude i've been waiting for him to do this for seven months. He hasn't done it yet, why would he do it now?

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (dciA+)

322 Where's THAT Rubio been for 6 months???

Sneaking Mexicans across the border.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (WVsWD)

323 Do you know how you get water to come out of the taps on the 105th floor of a skyscraper?

Neither does Donald Trump.

But somehow, he keeps building skyscrapers and the fucking water works all through the building. How does that happen?

Do you think that Trump might be smart enough to hire the right people to handle the jobs at hand?

Do you recall who the smartest, most knowledgeable president we ever had was? Jimmy Carter.

How did he work out?

Put someone in office who knows how to get a job done. Someone who knows when shit isn't working and has the balls to change things so that they do work. Someone who has an ego so big that the thought of failing is too ridiculous to contemplate.

That's the difference.

Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (Zs4uk)

324 But hey, keep in mind, Cruz and Rubio are both young. Either can defeat Hillary in 2020 after four years of her train wreck.

This assumes that anyone stops the unrestricted immigration and that ANY republican would still have a chance in 2020.

There's more than one reason why the left is pressing this.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (326rv)

325 Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (CgF8Y)

Me too brosef, me too.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (UnJ7w)

326 I don't think it's funny. It's tacky. He said, about another human being, "He's never faced any struggle."

Rubio's a tool.

Posted by: m at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (S/1cF)

327 227 Getting pretty desperate when the main criticism you have of your opponent is spelling errors.

Their is no room in this race for that if all there going to do is criticize they're opponents spelling.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:08 PM (wKcYr)

I see what you did theiy're.

By the way, Rubio's spelling trolling was a great setup for the joke about Trump hiring a foreign worker to tweet for him.

Posted by: stuiec at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (G/C31)

328 This cycle it has been absolutely amazing to watch so many people view and read the exact same things and and claim to have seen and read so many different things.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (GRYWk)

329 One of the most important roles of the president of the United States is his role as the Speller in Chief. It is right up there with Commander in Chief. I think I have established beyond all doubt that Trump is unqualified to spell in the White House.

Posted by: Mario Rubio at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (R+30W)

330 I got to 4 min of Rubios speech here. Does the guy have any self-awareness whatsoever? He says a lot true things about Trump, but almost all of it is true of himself as well.

Also: The Republican Party is not the conservative movement. If the GOP nominates useless douchebags like Trump or Rubio, we dont have to defend them. This shouldnt impact conservatism one bit.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (5aY0/)

331 >>
And don't fool yourselves folks, Ace is soon coming with his "I really like Cruz but guys who are we kidding no one likes him we have to rally behind Rubio post".

you don't have to wait for that. I'm not Cruz 1, Rubio 2, Trump somewhere below Kasich and Carson.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (dciA+)

332 Nope. Sorry. Skipped ahead and still Trumps bitch.

When he mentions loosing thousands of jobs Rubio instantly loses because it highlights someone actually creating (and losing) wealth, engaged with job creation while Rubio can only talk about such. There is a vast difference in experience there and we do learn by mistakes. I do. He can mock about the casino but something did get built and people were employed and other did have a great deal of fun. And there is Rubio with nothing and pointing and mocking. It doesn't work.

(Observer from Mars, here Cruz supporter, I think, if he can recover from his affected a-a-and that makes me want to slap him. Republicans, this is why so few want to be in your retarded club.)

Posted by: bour3 at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (5x3+2)

333 Trump is built for the electorate that twice elected Obama. The turnout in Nevada proves it.

And Hillary can't even take out the raging Socialist (Communist? maybe) and she's going to take out Trump? When Bush, Rubio, Cruz et al couldn't? Trump is how you beat Hillary.......just in case she can turn out the AAs at Obama levels. The Rs need those that don't normally vote....their own LIVs.....to match the Ds.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (PvCxa)

334 321 >>>This is good practice for Trump, though. This kind of thing beating him up makes him have to study, learn, focus, and know things.

I'm afraid what You see is what You get with Trump... The king of foot in the mouth.... He really needs better advisers....

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (/dSsq)

335 19 He probably stole stole that idea from the KS Senator Sasse who was reading tweets from deranged Trump supporters and which is on youtube, I think.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
____________

Sasse is Nebraska's. Kansas likes their U.S. Senators to have an R after their name, but a D in their hearts.

Posted by: Furious George at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (3GAnN)

336 Cruz has more money, a lower burn rate, & a better ground game, but he should drop out to a dude who can't even carry his home state?

Forget principles for a minute (obviously many already have), that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (t5zYU)

337 Above all, they want the WH. Thousands and thousands of jobs for little Johnny and cousin Mary and pal Rufus.

Yes, but... they'd rather lose to Democrats than have a Tea Party conservative type win. They view us as a greater enemy than their colleagues in power. Because we want them BOTH gone.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (39g3+)

338 >>>But somehow, he keeps building skyscrapers and the fucking water works all through the building. How does that happen?

helps to inherit your dad's fortune and business.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (dciA+)

339 306 >>Dr. Spank is correct. If you want to blame the rise of Trump on anyone, blame the GOP. They created this monster, and whatever happens now is on them.

The GOP may have opened the door for Trump but nobody is forcing anyone to support him. That's all on his supporters.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (/tuJf)

Nature abhors a vacuum. John Boehner & Mitch McConnell created a huge vacuum. Trump is the by product. Sort of like plowed earth being over ran with thistles, big ugly pricky weeds.

True no one is making anyone vote for Trump, but its easy to see why. You have the pissed who don't want to take it any more, you have the LIB burn crow and you have others who are just LIV and dont know any better.

You could say, on both the right and left it's a perfect storm.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (voOPb)

340
Trump WILL MAKE BRAWNDO GREAT AGAIN!

Posted by: Ed Anger at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (RcpcZ)

341 Enough with this. YOU FUCKING LOSE. And it feels great.
Posted by: prescient12
.........
Yeah? It ain't over til it's over..
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

But in all seriousness, Fuck You just for being an asshole.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (so+oy)

342 "Trump-Curious" That's awesome - I guess I was too, and I very much wanted more out of Cruz, Now I'm solidly in the undecided camp again. Self-deportation is sounding better and better, oh wait, I was born here. Crap.

Posted by: IP - Help Stop Flatware Abuse Now! at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (aQQbl)

343 Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (7QkL1)

Breathe in....exhale...breathe in...exhale.
Repeat 4 more times.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (UnJ7w)

344 I'm telling you folks...

Trump's VP is going to be Allen West. Checks a lot of boxes, non-establishment but political enough to work with congress.

Posted by: aerofanatic at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (qlbJG)

345 Don't be ridiculous. Patronage is the coin, the prize, of politics. They want to hold the House and Senate because of all the extra minions they get to hire when they're the majority.

Above all, they want the WH.

No. They don't. Governing be hard, yo!
They'd rather be the Washington Generals to the Globetrotters. They still get to travel. Stay in the same hotels. Eat at the same restaurants. Don't have to defend their record. Still get paid the same.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (wKcYr)

346 Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (Xd2w5)

What happened to the Amishdude who called everyone poopyheads, and said he was leaving and not coming back?

I liked that Amishdude better than this one.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (TOk1P)

347 "Cruz and Rubio stay in and just beat the shit out of trump to keep him at 1100 or fewer delegates, I'm now okay with that.
"

That's where I am too. However I'm almost certain that should that happen A) they will pick Rubio B) Trump will run 3rd party C) we very well might end up with Sanders/ Hillary.

A better outcome would be for Rubio and Cruz to officially unite and beat him outright.

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (vA1V9)

348 For me, it is either Trump or Cruz, and I feel nervous about both. I can't trust either of them enough for my taste, but there is NO way it would be Rubio or Kasich. I guess it would be so much easier if I were 18 and still a Rat... No complexity or reservations needed.

Posted by: Baldy at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (1SCTq)

349 Cruz "proved" Trump had said he was for taking out Ghadaffi, but the proof was from after the point where we had turned on Ghadaffi and he was fighting against our "freedom fighters" and slaughtering innocents. Trump then said to intervene on a humanitarian basis, with a surgical strike. We waited too long. But Cruz has his timeline off. Trump had Ghadaffi stay in that big tent on his own property in 2009.

You keep claiming this, but have yet to produce an actual date for Trump's quote that would validate your timeline.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (bZ7mE)

350 I can't get behind this guy. He's not just a liberal; he's a completely uninformed liberal who can't even announce the most basic parts of his liberal policies.

he's also not very hardcore on amnesty. he's still promising to let all the deported illegals back in, which Ted Cruz is saying will NOT happen.

Rubio wouldn't either. For simple reasons of political expediency.

I guess the idea of a strongman who is beyond coalitions and parties is appealing if he's doing what you want (even though separation of powers makes it impossible).

But if your issue is immigration, Trump is the *worst* choice you can make. Seriously, even Kasich is better on that issue.

And then, there's the fact that he's insane.

Donald Trump is actually a crazyperson.

As for me, the slaying of Jeb! is sufficient revenge against the GOPe. That's a humiliation people can't simply grasp.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (Xd2w5)

351 I love Dreamers
I'm a schemer
Imma pinch out a steamer
Amnesty's my number oooooone

With translater
I'm a traitor
I'm a Gang of Eight-er
And Amnesty is gonna cooooome

Posted by: The Marco Rubio Band at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (7Kbxu)

352 ...Do you know how you get water to come out of the taps on the 105th floor of a skyscraper?...

Dirty Jobs. Water Tank. Bet Trump knows how much a water tank costs and what sizes they come in.

Posted by: scorecard at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (jN+3o)

353 Trump WILL MAKE BRAWNDO GREAT AGAIN!
Posted by: Ed Anger at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (RcpcZ)

It has electrolytes!

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (/dSsq)

354 But in all seriousness, Fuck You just for being an asshole.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (so+oy)

I wanted to but couldn't, thanks.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (UnJ7w)

355 "dude i've been waiting for him to do this for seven months. He hasn't done it yet, why would he do it now?"

Trump has not been beaten up before like he was last night. Perhaps he will now start making more of an effort on policy, etc.. Or not.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (WnCSK)

356 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?

Posted by: ace

You remember Christine O'Donnell? I remember arguing with people, intensely, in trying to get them to admit that having a picnic at a Satanic altar and saying "I dabbled in witchcraft" would hurt a candidate. We keep having fights that remind me of that.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (Pqhmy)

357 Mario's attack poodle act is quite refreshing, but too late. I don't see him winning any primaries.

I don't see Cruz winning many either.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (bpn7O)

358 >>>
Ace lost it. Trump's a fascist. A dictator. An idiot. Except who was ignorant Ace?? Under longstanding legal precedent this is perfectly legal for any PD that accepted federal funds.

i have no idea where you guys get some of this crap.

maybe from Trump University

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (dciA+)

359 Trump's likely 90% inevitable as the nominee.

But hey. At least, as they go down, Cruz and Rubio are going down swinging.

The thing that I find so surprising and endlessly amusing, is that not only is Rubio - Marco "Nice Guy" Rubio - pummeling Trump in the face (rhetorically speaking) using Trump's own style of trolling, but he does it exceptionally WELL, and seems, quite honestly, to be having no small amount of FUN while doing it.

Posted by: Vyce at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (25KoR)

360 What happened to the Amishdude who called everyone poopyheads, and said he was leaving and not coming back?

I liked that Amishdude better than this one.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (TOk1P)

Poopyheads.

Oh, my dear sir, my vocabulary is not at all Trumpian. I know much better words than that.

And I can spell them.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (Xd2w5)

361 "You do realize Trump supports amnesty, right?" JackStraw

He has said they have to go and they will have to go through a process to come back legally. He is not specific on that process, but also said when some see they have to go, most will leave on their own. He supports e-verify, so it doesn't sound like they come back the same day, or even the same week.

I wish he was more specific but then that sounds mean and loses votes. But he does not support "amnesty". He hasn't released details on that legal process, so how can you claim it is just an open door? He says only the good ones ... so I'd guess to come back at all even temporary visa, they'd need a job already waiting.

Anyway ... he does not support amnesty. Or has not said that at least.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (eUbDe)

362 >>Let's make this clear - I'll take my chances with a man who has built a
$10B international business empire to have the best advisors in the
world on all issues over an internet blogger who rails at Trump being
ignorant, but instead himself is ignorant on everything he "outrages"
on.<<

How many times has the great businessman Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy?

How many people did he rip off with his bullshit "Trump University" degree?

Posted by: MacGruber at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (C278+)

363 Dayum! Way to kill it, Marco!

Posted by: VA MK Z at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (+0aiQ)

364 Where's THAT Rubio been for 6 months???

Beta testing.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (oVJmc)

365 Mia Love represents Salt Lake City. SLC, like all other big cities is a Democrat city. She's voting left of center because that's her constituency.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (0LHZx)

366 Kudos to the guy who did Rubio's firmware upgrade.
And it only took 18 hours after the debate to upload.
Is Pixy Rubio's server?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (WOyz5)

367 i have no idea where you guys get some of this crap.

maybe from Trump University

Okay, that made Me laugh...

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (/dSsq)

368 Prescient I'd like to advise you to ask around about the "no personal attacks" policy. Are we perfect on it? No, sometimes things get testy. But it's a good line to try to toe.

Also go eat a dick. Bagging on a guy on his own blog is shitheel behavior and lying/conflating/talking smack while you do it is a massive turnoff.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (xuouz)

369 341 Enough with this. YOU FUCKING LOSE. And it feels great.
Posted by: prescient12
.........
Yeah? It ain't over til it's over..
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

But in all seriousness, Fuck You just for being an asshole.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (so+oy)

While we are at it, can we discuss religion too?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (voOPb)

370 Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (Zs4uk)

you know how you get water to come out of the taps on the 105th floor of a skyscraper?

Water pumps, and/or a reservoir on top.

But somehow, he keeps building skyscrapers and the fucking water works all through the building. How does that happen?

Because Saudi princes keep picking up the pieces after his projects go bankrupt and destroy the original investors. Guess they won't be able to do that after he bans all the Muslims. Oh well, he can always more immigrants, right?

Do you think that Trump might be smart enough to hire the right people to handle the jobs at hand?

No.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (74ZYB)

371 I'm unmoved by Rubio. This is playing at killer instinct, and his lateness at it shows he has no executive chops. He's not ready.

Christie has executive chops but lacks self-confidence and so prone to hero worship.

Trump has survived, succeeded, failed, survived, succeeded again. He understands that executives sometimes cannot overthink. They have to decide things, they have to move things in a particular direction.

Ace, Trump is not a Philosopher King. Granted. This doesn't bother me. What really bothers me is that Hillary & Co. will kill this country dead. They are prepared, the playbook is already written, and they will come out with a scripted first twenty -- no, twenty times twenty -- plays.

You look at that, and you look at Trump, and it's an easy call. It's politics bro, not marriage.

Posted by: Feh at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (QFRx/)

372 Why is Trump University raising anyone's hackles when Trump has been a casino magnate for decades?!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 26, 2016 02:16 PM (21hN3)

It's today's shiny

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (ZbV+0)

373 Come on guys, we all know someone who has been arrested late at night in a gay meet up park hanging out with a future gay porn king.

His name is Marco Rubio.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:24 PM (7QkL1)

374 >>maybe from Trump University

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (dciA+)<<
It's one step below Bovine University!

Posted by: Ralph Wiggum at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (C278+)

375 Not sure that I consider this stuff funny. Our party's -- well, my party's* -- front runner defended Planned Parenthood last night, and the debate before that, went full Cindy Sheahan.

(*I'm a Republican. I don't want to burn the GOP to the ground and salt the earth with my frustrated man-baby tears because I didn't get every goddamned thing I wanted from the GOP. Many here have made it abundantly clear that they're not Republicans. "Conservatism has failed", as an AoS Trump supporter said just last night.)

OK, I just watched the video. You're right, that's some funny shit. Trump primped with his make-up during breaks, and he might have pissed himself. Congratulations, Trump supporters, your candidate is a buffoon and a laughing stock.

Posted by: Pastafarian at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (LqrRo)

376 As for me, the slaying of Jeb! is sufficient revenge against the GOPe. That's a humiliation people can't simply grasp.
Posted by: AmishDude

We can grasp it. And the nazi baiting yesterday. We certainly grasped that.

Prove that we can't grasp it. One high and mighty member of the ruling class gained no traction. And the GOPe switches to another.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (326rv)

377 all right i'm not going to fight with trump fans any more today.

I don't want to do the smug thing. After all, I was open to Trump myself for a long time.

i'm not saying I'm better than you. that's not what this is about.

I'm just saying, I'm better than Trump.

just kidding. but seriously, this is about trump, not you.

I'll let you guys come around to your own conclusions.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (dciA+)

378 Anyway ... he does not support amnesty. Or has not said that at least.
Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (eUbDe)

"I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal... A lot of these people are helping us...and sometimes it's jobs a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do. I want to move 'em out, and we're going to move 'em back in and let them be legal."

Donald Trump's immigration response to Dana Bash.
That's touch back amnesty dude.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (UnJ7w)

379 ...But if your issue is immigration, Trump is the *worst* choice you can make. Seriously, even Kasich is better on that issue....

Evidence on this? Trump is the only one who is credible. (Unless you mean on importing more illegals. ) Cruz is next but seems squishy in comparison to Trump.

Posted by: scorecard at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (jN+3o)

380 i have no idea where you guys get some of this crap.

maybe from Trump University
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:23 PM (dciA+)

heh.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (qCMvj)

381 Trump's VP is going to be Allen West.

I'd need to see my doctor for that thing that lasts longer than four hours. I could get a job cutting diamonds with it.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (wKcYr)

382 dude i've been waiting for him [Rubio] to do this for seven months.
Posted by: ace

Ace, a while back you made an important post in which you essentially changed your "Victory Conditions" for the primary from "I want Cruz to win" to "I want Rubio to lose."

Does this post change your Victory Conditions again? Starting today, for you to consider the primary a success, is the outcome "Trump loses" the only criterion?

Posted by: zombie at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (jBuUi)

383 helps to inherit your dad's fortune and business.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (dciA+)

Yeah, that must be it.

As soon as everyone realizes that Trump is as stupid as Palin, all the people he's made money from over the past 50 years will ask for it back.

Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (Zs4uk)

384 >>Anyway ... he does not support amnesty. Or has not said that at least.

You should listen more closely. What he is proposing has been known as touchback amnesty for years. If anyone but Trump was proposing what he is people would be hammering them as establishment swine.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (/tuJf)

385 all right i'm not going to fight with trump fans any more today.

Yes, enough with all this nastiness...

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (/dSsq)

386 338 >>>But somehow, he keeps building skyscrapers and the fucking water works all through the building. How does that happen?

helps to inherit your dad's fortune and business.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:21 PM (dciA+)

Trump is a yuge corporation by now. He has people who do everything for him, he's just the TV star. He's Elvis, he's got an army of Col. Tom Parkers working for him.

But if you notice, when he gets personally involved with stuff (my favorite example is the USFL), it tanks.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (Xd2w5)

387 This shouldnt impact conservatism one bit.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (5aY0/)

Except that Republicans who aren't conservative are passed off by the MFM as conservatives and they get to tarnish the conservatism. The LIVs buy it hook line and sinker

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (493sH)

388 A better outcome would be for Rubio and Cruz to officially unite and beat him outright.

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Seems to be the best move to me. But I'd be ok with either of them. This is a strange nomination season. The unconventional route may be the best route.

If Cruz can hang on to win Texas and Rubio does not win FL, then Cruz should be at the top of that dual ticket.

Posted by: SH at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (gmeXX)

389 Rubio is repulsive. This is not "winning."

They are all awful. Just awful.

Posted by: SarahW at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (3fTXW)

390 Look, if your sane vote for Cruz. If your not, vote for Trump. But no matter how bad Trump looks he will destroy Cankles if he gets the nomination. Trump's support is about wanting to see a wrecking ball taken to DC. He has massive support among blue collar workers, and none of them care for a single second about any of the things being discussed today. They just hate the current direction, and want strong action.

Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (rsudF)

391 Ok, that was just gross. MSNBC reporter just had a huge piece of snot drip out of her nose during a live shot.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (/tuJf)

392 I heard Trump speech just a little bit ago and he was saying how Rubio needed a trowel to put his make up on and it still didn't cover his ears.

Going to the store today to continue increasing my prepper supplies. We are lost as a country. Every man for themselves.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (sUMfc)

393 @362: "How many times has the great businessman Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy?"

Out of how many his companies?

@362: "How many people did he rip off with his bullshit 'Trump University' degree?

How many people did he rip off with his casinos? Surely, that's a bigger moral issue, but you're not wholly against gambling, are you?

Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (21hN3)

394 That was brutual. Probably too late.....but brutual.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (4FKcL)

395 324 But hey, keep in mind, Cruz and Rubio are both young. Either can defeat Hillary in 2020 after four years of her train wreck.

This assumes that anyone stops the unrestricted immigration and that ANY republican would still have a chance in 2020.

There's more than one reason why the left is pressing this.
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:19 PM (326rv)

_____

DING DING DING

Once 30M illegals become lifelong Democrat voters, it's over.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (0LHZx)

396 Trump must be destroyed. Personally. He must go down.

If Hillary wins, so be it.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (VoCyE)

397 >>And for the sake of my sanity and the concept of justice and right, that woman must not be rewarded with more power.

THIS.

I am more *against* Hillary than for any candidate except Cruz.

As for Rubio (finally) hitting Trump: I worry that he's more willing to hit his fellow GOP candidates than Hillary or Bernie in the general election --- just like what freakin' Romney did in 2012.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (NOIQH)

398 Come on guys, we all know someone who has been arrested late at night in a gay meet up park hanging out with a future gay porn king.

His name is Marco Rubio.

I heard he had gay sex on a Bible!

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (/GMrP)

399 Check your twitter feed and/or this blog on December 10th.

You'll see exactly where you went nuts on Trump's call for federal death penalty for cop killers in liberal jurisdictions w/ no death penalty.

Except that Trump was exactly right. And you were exactly wrong. And throwing out quite the names I recall. It's like I was reading NRO or Rick Wilson's twitter.

No anal references, so kudos to you for that.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (7QkL1)

400 The time for vengeance has passed.

The time for vengeance passes once you've crushed your enemies and driven them before you, hearing the lamentations of their women. Then and only then will it be passed. The GOP must understand they are a party, not an autocracy, and ignoring the membership and people who got them into power carries a price.

Or there's no point in even having a party.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (39g3+)

401 >>Trump is the only one who is credible.
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Bawahhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (voOPb)

402 How many times has the great businessman Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy?
Four times out of 500+ companies as an entrepreneur. BTW, I think Romney had 47 bankruptcies occur out of the companies he was hired to try to save... probably out of 100s of failing companies too.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (WOyz5)

403 My contempt for Carson, Kasich and Christie knows no bounds today.

Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (CgF8Y)

404 Donald Trump is actually a crazyperson.

As for me, the slaying of Jeb! is sufficient revenge against the GOPe. That's a humiliation people can't simply grasp.
Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:22 PM (Xd2w5)

*****

I thought you flounced yourself away from us ignorant shitkicking rubes just yesterday? Wha hoppened?

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (GRYWk)

405 he's also not very hardcore on amnesty. he's still promising to let all the deported illegals back in, which Ted Cruz is saying will NOT happen.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (dciA+)

Actually, I think Cruz might have a shot at wrapping this up -

if he were to go even further than Trump

into solid middle class territory.

I'd like him to drop the DoJ going after PP bit for a while-

and say he'd instruct the AG to go hard at Disney, Facebook, etc

to look for any H1B violations.

And prosecute with fines and compensation for those American workers kicked out of their jobs.

There are at least 1000 at Disney that we know of right off the bat.

And hell, these are all anti-conservative, anti-Republican companies...

It's like a free shot.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (0cMkb)

406 "He definitely does some damage."

As a Trump fan, it appears to only resonate with Rubio's fans. He even had to explain the joke to his crowd who thought Rubio was saying that the polls had Rubio winning the debate.

It was kind of a Jeb! "please clap" moment.

It's kind of funny that the Ace-haTED Rubio is being used to prop up defeaTED Cruz.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (3dOE/)

407 But if you notice, when he gets personally involved with stuff (my favorite example is the USFL), it tanks.

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And tank quickly it did.

Posted by: SH at February 26, 2016 02:28 PM (gmeXX)

408 there's no way Trump picks Allen West to be President of the Senate

West is a good man, but a Senate insider? come on

Posted by: Feh at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (QFRx/)

409 As soon as everyone realizes that Trump is as stupid as Palin, all the people he's made money from over the past 50 years will ask for it back.
Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (Zs4uk)

There are several lawsuits doing just that.

Trump also managed to dodge tens of billions of such claims through a thing called "bankruptcy."

The last one was just six years ago.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (74ZYB)

410 Ok, that was just gross. MSNBC reporter just had a huge piece of snot drip out of her nose during a live shot.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (/tuJf)

Hey Aqualung

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (493sH)

411 390 Look, if your sane vote for Cruz. If your not, vote for Trump. But no matter how bad Trump looks he will destroy Cankles if he gets the nomination. Trump's support is about wanting to see a wrecking ball taken to DC. He has massive support among blue collar workers, and none of them care for a single second about any of the things being discussed today. They just hate the current direction, and want strong action.
Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (rsudF)

_____

No because both parties will join forces to keep him out. I will join with Democrats to keep him out.

He will destroy this nation, like he has destroyed our Party.

Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (VoCyE)

412 "But Cruz has his timeline off. Trump had Ghadaffi stay in that big tent on his own property in 2009.

You keep claiming this, but have yet to produce an actual date for Trump's quote that would validate your timeline." grey fox

yeah but it was after the fighting started, that Ghadaffi and his boys were killing all those people, then he had to flee ... and the reason Trump gave was not to put in a new leader. But I don't have the date of the podcast. I'll look. I blame Buzzfeed, they used it but didn't put up the date.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (eUbDe)

413 I think Trump oughta have absolutely no response. That will either encourage Rubio to keep this up, until it's all terribly tedious--which will work to Trump's benefit--or to bail on this and flailingly grasp some other random strategy, and perform it poorly--which will work to Trump's benefit.

Posted by: m at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (S/1cF)

414 Trump had a bad night.
Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 26, 2016 02:17 PM (bpn7O)

____

Yes!! Trump is finished (for the 177th time).

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (0LHZx)

Yes. That. I think the wise thing to do is wait until Wednesday morning and see if any of the needles have moved. The internet lets too many things move too fast, like a weathervane in a tornado, to justify jumping one way or another at every "signal".

This election campaign cycle has been a weird one, a highly entertaining one, and while it has confused me it has fascinated me as well.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsor of the 2016 Trump of Doom Tour! at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (hLRSq)

415 Christie is a fatso loser mimbo! Thought he could win, but lost millions. Sad!

Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (CgF8Y)

416 @365
Her district is largely comprised of Utah County and areas south of Salt Lake, which are much more conservative than SLC. The district lines got gerrymandered when Utah had a Representative added. Love herself is from Saratoga Springs in Utah County.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (t5zYU)

417 209 Got willowed -

It was really weird watching Rubio this morning. For some reason CBSN (streaming) devoted about a half hour to Mario who was doing nothing but slamming Trump in the most juvenile fashion imaginable. Spelling in tweets, his Wharton education, sweat, mirror, etc.

It just seemed like petty stuff. Made me think even less of Rubio - if that's possible.
--------------------------------------------

Then there were those of us who are of sound mind who were standing up and cheering!

Posted by: Rachel at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (BKs+G)

418 That's TERRIFIC.

And well past due.

Carson and Kasich need to bow out, now. Maybe Cruz too.

Posted by: Steve Walsh at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (6CCkt)

419 "They are all awful. Just awful."
========

Yes, this. THIS!

I don't understand how any of these jackholes gets anything more passionate than hesitant, reluctant support.

We're completely boned when they pass Amnesty. Who the Hell knows what Trump will do, and Cruz doesn't seem to stand a chance anyway.

The next President is going to be (I can't believe I'm typing this) Hillary Clinton, cackling all the way to the Oval Office past the prison cell where she really belongs.

Posted by: Kensington at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (7Kbxu)

420 " Trump must be destroyed. Personally. He must go down.

If Hillary wins, so be it. "

- Ignorance personified....

Posted by: Skeezix at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (WnCSK)

421 ...That's touch back amnesty dude....

All the rest are safety amnesty. :-)

Trump is bad. The others are worse.
Trump has zero credibility.
The rest have negative credibility.
Trump is the only one who's pecker isn't in somebody else's pocket. (LBJ reference)

Posted by: scorecard at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (j2xmV)

422
As for Rubio (finally) hitting Trump: I worry that he's more willing to hit his fellow GOP candidates than Hillary or Bernie in the general election --- just like what freakin' Romney did in 2012.
Posted by: Lizzy at February 26, 2016 02:27 PM (NOIQH

Trump and Hillary have more in common than Rubio & Hillary.

As Mitt couldn't go after TFG about TFGCare neither can Trump go after Hillary on say for example the Best SOS evah

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (voOPb)

423 can you guys ever admit that Trump had a bad night or is everything just pretending that Trump DESTROYS every chocker in his path?

Posted by: ace

You remember Christine O'Donnell? I remember arguing with people, intensely, in trying to get them to admit that having a picnic at a Satanic altar and saying "I dabbled in witchcraft" would hurt a candidate. We keep having fights that remind me of that.
Posted by: AD

Funny tat you should mention that.

I remember warning people that when the "Smartest Man in Delaware" refused to fucking campaign and ran his mouth about proudly voting for global bullshit cap and trade the WEEK BEFORE THE PRIMARY may not be the best idea. Kinda like Jeb!

And he got his ass kicked by a witch.

Now the best and the brightest are getting their asses handed to them by a showman.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (326rv)

424 You were never open to Trump Ace.

You only pretended to flirt with Cruz.

You were Rubio, through and through. Always. Tell Rick and Charles and all the boys and girls at the GOPe hi at the regular meetings.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (7QkL1)

425 I wonder what you can major in at Trump University?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (TJCSB)

426 Trump will make America great again, just like he made Atlantic City great.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (/GMrP)

427 This Trump fella' sure paints in bold colors, doesn't he.

He loves law enforcement.. He loves the border patrol... He hates illegal immigrants... He hates Syrian immigration to this country... He hates abortion.

He hates everything Democrats love... He loves everything Democrats hate.

The speech he just gave in Fort Worth was CHOCK FULL of Bold Colors... And NO PASTELS.

There was no equivicating... There were no "buts"

My two cents

Posted by: franksalterego at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (Cd+Fa)

428 If this was supposed to make me think better of Rubio, it's far far too late.

He's an under-performer with his back against the wall. Within a week, it's looking like he's going to lose his own home state and go without a single win anywhere.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (oVJmc)

429 As someone who is on record as not being a Rubio supporter, let me say good for him.

No snark.

No nastiness.

Good for him.

Doesn't change my opinion on his substantive problems but good for him for playing the game.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (mf5HN)

430 via Twitter:

New lesson kids: sometimes, the best option for the fat kid is to just hand his lunch money over to the bully! #TrumpChristie2016

Posted by: Rachel at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (BKs+G)

431 We can grasp it. And the nazi baiting yesterday. We certainly grasped that.

Prove that we can't grasp it. One high and mighty member of the ruling class gained no traction. And the GOPe switches to another.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (326rv)

Hey, I've been watching Trump's Twitter feed. He still has said nothing about it.

You know, when I brought up Duke's endorsement, what I expected to hear was, "Trump can't control who endorses him but I expect (hope) he'll come out against it strongly."

I didn't get that. Before the news that Trump had rejected (though not exactly condemned) Duke's support, his supporters defended his silence and said that it was a good thing.

Until he broke his silence and said *that* was the good thing.

Trump has RTed praise from neo-nazi accounts several times. They form the backbone of his support on social media. He does nothing to dissuade them.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (Xd2w5)

432 >>>56 LEAVE DONALD TRUMP ALONE.
Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (TJCSB)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (S/1cF)

433 If a roofing contractor came by talking the line of shit Trump does I wouldn't hire him. I would regard him a con man.

Why in the hell would I trust him with the presidency?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (wyL+Z)

434 It's all over but the whining, crying, and gnashing of teeth here.

Might as well just let em.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Blah, blah,blah at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (WVsWD)

435 Once 30M illegals become lifelong Democrat voters, it's over.

Then we become California. But California has a wonderful economy and high paying jobs and MONORAIL so it's great.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (FkBIv)

436 Eh...the ineligible Cuban Chihuahua who is completely finished in politics...Florida despises him...self-destructing right before our eyes.

MarcoSoft Rubio...I still can't believe a first term Senator who is ineligible with literally zero accomplishments decided to run for president. Who does he think he is...Obama? Even Obama had an affirmative action degree from Harvard. All Rubio has is a degree from a no name school and foam party goer on his resume.

Nice to see that Cruz all but endorsed Rubio last night after the debate. Told ya Cruz is a liar and an open borders fraud.

Rubio/ Cruz or Cruz/Rubio? Who can tell them apart. Ineligible, amnesty loving Cubans twins. They stick together.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (tLM9s)

437 Trump must be destroyed. Fully and completely so he slinks off to an island somewhere and can never show his face in this country ever again.

This country will destroy Donald Trump and his racist supporters.

And yesterday, I was defending him, thinking I could support him.

Trump is an ulcer on the body politic. He must be destroyed forever.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (VoCyE)

438 424 You were never open to Trump Ace.

You only pretended to flirt with Cruz.

You were Rubio, through and through. Always. Tell Rick and Charles and all the boys and girls at the GOPe hi at the regular meetings.

You know that because Your clairvoyant or Your feelings are hurt because somebody is calling out Trump....

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (/dSsq)

439 When I come to the buffet --Step aside!

Part the seas, don't be havin' me in line!

V.P.--cause you know I gotta shine!

GW bridge make me go down like --Snooki at The Shore!

Posted by: Chris Christie Beachin' at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (mcm0N)

440 Rubio was too nice and shiny to be "brutal." You want brutal? When Rubio tried to say Trump hired all those foreign works, Trump said "yeah, I *hired* people. You've never hired anyone in your life." Then he shuddered like Rubio was a bad taste in a burp that passed.

Brutal.

Posted by: Feh at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (QFRx/)

441 "I guess the idea of a strongman who is beyond coalitions and parties is
appealing if he's doing what you want (even though separation of powers
makes it impossible)."

After seven years of watching Obama casually intimidate the servile, cringing Vichy GOP, a lot of people on the right are tired of that, and are hungry for an intimidator of their own.

That's really what a lot of the Trump love comes down to.

"Trump strong! Strong like bull! Strong Trump do things!"

Except... undirected, unprincipled, philosophically unmoored strength is not necessarily a wonderful thing.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (noWW6)

442 No because both parties will join forces to keep him out. I will join with Democrats to keep him out.
He will destroy this nation, like he has destroyed our Party.
Trump must be destroyed.
Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (VoCyE)

It's about pendulums swinging the other way and all that.

The fun part is that Trump is the wrecking ball on the crane type of pendulum -- but the cable is frayed and might break at any point. We just don't know where, when, or if on this cycle.

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (DofIg)

443 But no matter how bad Trump looks he will destroy Cankles if he gets the nomination.

In the minds of Trump supporters, yes, he will DESTROY! all his critics, including all the foreign leaders who have already begun openly mocking him.

Unfortunately, those supporters are only about 15%-25% of the general electorate. Dems and independents already consider him to be Hitler without the redeeming qualities and will see him as a clueless bully.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (74ZYB)

444 I'll let you guys come around to your own conclusions.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (dciA+)

Which many of us did months and months and months ago, when we already knew Trump was a complete phony liberal dirtball.

We never asked him not to be, however, so this level of disappointment you are experiencing now? Yeah, no, I'm not going to come around to it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:32 PM (TOk1P)

445 Latest Bloomberg poll:

http://bloom.bg/1VHQ09R

Posted by: notsothoreau at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (5HBd1)

446 I read somewhere, in my Hillary Virus delirium (so may have hallucinated), that ole !jeb! and his peoples have met with Marco and his peoples. So, I guess, this is the result: a new jokey Marco speech he will repeat until I have memorized it.

He says the right things, always has, about national defense...except securing the damn border or punishing those who break the law. E-verify is already in place. Sure some, like Romney said, self-deported (at least in my area of Floriduh before I moved). E-Verify works. So does having a real ID at the voting polls (as Florida also sees to...even to the point of looking at holograms on your ID. My county did not mess around).

But Marco Rubio has changed his tune since he got to DC. You can trust this Redneck Queen on that. I listened, carefully, to what he said in Florida. Then, poof, that man was gone.

The magic speeches. Who does that remind you of?

Trump, per Mark Steyn and others, and I finally got around to watching an entire rally, is from a few notes. He rambles and goes off point and talks recent events. But he is good. He says what a lot of us think at times. He can be crude, etc, but, as I told my sweet Southern Mama, the bar of holding a president up to high standards fell down in 2008. I have no problem with Trump anymore, not since San Bernidino. Nope. I want a US president to scare others, as President Reagan did with the release of US prisoners held in Iran under Carter. And, rumors were, that once Reagan was in charge of the codes he would mushroom everyone. Mondale claimed all Americans should start building bomb shelters, that Reagan would lead us down the path to nuclear war. Reagan was "not a true conservative" as he had,in the past, supported Democrats, yada. Morons: Does this sound familiar?

I will vote (R) in the next election. Do not care. If it is Katshit I guess I will have to eat my words as well as be drunk. If it is Dr. Carson, well, we could do worse. If it is Marco, well, we could do worse but I find him to be a true RINO, as much as I despise that acronym. I like Senator Cruz, so am ok with him, as he, at least, stayed true to his word vs Rubio. Trump? Well, a brand new playing field. I am ok with seeing what someone, who owes no lobby, can do.

As long as Baroque is on Marine One in January 2017, waving a tearful goodbye to his legacy, I am fine. Let's just unite and beat the crap out of the Dems. The end. Time for nap to fight Hillary Virus, brought to me by refugees at grocery store, or a party, or in an antique store with a lot of dust (perhaps a rare virus incubated in me all week).

I love you morons and 'ettes. Let's have favorites, now, but unite vs the mess of the last two elections. Don't make me stop this car. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (wAMRL)

447 The time for vengeance passes once you've crushed your enemies and driven them before you, hearing the lamentations of their women. Then and only then will it be passed. The GOP must understand they are a party, not an autocracy, and ignoring the membership and people who got them into power carries a price.

Or there's no point in even having a party.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

^^^^^
This!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (wKcYr)

448 Yes!! Trump is finished (for the 177th time).

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo

I haven't read here yet that anyone thinks that Trump is finished and therein lies the problem. In my opinion and some others, he was awful last night and that surprised me even being a Cruz supporter. Name calling, bragging, blustering instead of answering direct questions, unable to articulate any clear policy and don't get me started on foreign policy and Trump.

He most likely at this point will get the nomination even after such a bad showing.

Posted by: Cheri at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (oiNtH)

449
The good news is hillary promised to be a one term president. NTYCBH.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (ODxAs)

450 "424 You were never open to Trump Ace.

You only pretended to flirt with Cruz.
"

Oh please. Ace has been one of the most vocal Rubio opponents.

Posted by: Lauren at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (vA1V9)

451 Enough with this. YOU FUCKING LOSE. And it feels great.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (7QkL1)

You did it. You shamed ace into supporting your candidate.

No, wait. You didn't. You likely put his back up. Good job - almost as good a job as the anti-Trump people.

(Does anybody know how to market a product - and a candidate is a product - here?)

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsor of the 2016 Trump of Doom Tour! at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (hLRSq)

452 425
I wonder what you can major in at Trump University?

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (TJCSB)

Don't know, but apparently Trump excelled in spellin' at Wharton, by the look of his tweets.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (FsuaD)

453 ATC:

No snark, no nastiness. Rubio was out this morning calling Trump a con man and suggesting he peed his pants.

The tears of the GOPe, which have all been outed, taste delicious.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:33 PM (7QkL1)

454 Trump's support is about wanting to see a wrecking ball taken to DC. He has massive support among blue collar workers, and none of them care for a single second about any of the things being discussed today. They just hate the current direction, and want strong action.
Posted by: NotCoach

In a thread full of threadwinners, this is the threadwinningest.

Nobody gives a doodie about Trump's "policy positions." They want him to swing into DC on a wrecking ball attached to a towering crane emblazoned with a "TRUMP" logo, and just knock the whole place down. (Metaphorically speaking, of course.)

Posted by: zombie at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (jBuUi)

455 Donald Trump must be destroyed before he destroys us.

This is self defense, If it is Hillary that destroys him that's fine.

Donald Trump is the enemy and someone must destroy him.

He is the worst liar that ever got this close to the whitehouse.

He must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (VoCyE)

456 'Bout time somebody did this, but it's probably too late.

Posted by: sinalco at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (yODqO)

457 Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (kZNQE)

458 Aaaaaaaand that's it, I'm out.

Later. Maybe.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (9krrF)

459 Honestly, this is shocking.

http://tinyurl.com/jmce7sf

Three black female college students who claimed to be victims of an assault by a group of white men and women have been charged themselves.

The University at Albany announced Thursday that two of the women, Ariel Agudio and Asha Burwell, have been charged with misdemeanor assault and falsely reporting an incident. The third woman, Alexis Briggs, has been charged with misdemeanor assault.

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (KCQo0)

460 458 Aaaaaaaand that's it, I'm out.

Later. Maybe.

Yup, Me too...

Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (/dSsq)

461 Trump admitted last night that he's under investigation for tax fraud or evasion and substantiated Romney's attack in the process and nobody has noticed it. When he was challenged to release his returns he argued he couldn't because the last 12 years returns are under audit by the IRS. The IRS can only go back 4 years unless they have reason to suspect criminal fraud or evasion.
It'd be nice if someone with a megaphone noticed this and invited some tax professionals to comment on it for the details and legalities. I'd also love to see some campaign ads hanging a "taxes are for the little people" sign on Trumps head along with the millions in fines for hiring illegals.
Posted by: allenlou at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (m3iiU)

This is ignorantly wrong. For anyone with the amount of wealth, business, investments, etc. that Trump has, getting audited every year is standard business practice for the IRS. His tax returns are very large, very detailed, and as he said last night, have carryovers from previous years and previous negotiations with the IRS over different allowances, deductions, etc. Add in business bankruptcies, etc. and the Donald will never be rid of the IRS.

It has nothing to do with fraud, or evasion, etc. He has a cadre of tax lawyers and accountants working for him and negotiating with the IRS.
I agree with his comments last night after the debate that his lawyers and accountants will not allow him to make public his returns while he is in negotiations with the IRS. He will lose all negotiation advantage.

People who have only filed a 1040 EZ and gotten back all they paid in(and more due to "earned income credit') will not understand this. They hear 'audit" and assume Trump has tried to defraud the precious government. I have family members who were wealthy, died half a dozen years ago, and the IRS is STILL in negotiation over investments they had that went belly up that the estate wants deductions for, etc. First, the investments themselves have to be declared fully out of IRS audit before the estate can finish it's audit with the IRS. It will be years yet before the estate can be closed.
I have friends with a business that was audited four years ago and found to be fully in compliance. They have since been audited via computer checks EVERY single year since.

I am all in with Cruz wanting to go flat tax and abolish the IRS. I know the 45% of Americans that pay NO income tax don't want this, because they'll have to pony up something every year, but this needs to happen.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (dErES)

462 Let's dispel with the fiction that grammar and spelling matter.

Posted by: chedolf at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (UerRL)

463 But will he do any of this against Hillary?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (WuRdh)

464 just kidding. but seriously, this is about trump, not you.

I'll let you guys come around to your own conclusions.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:25 PM (dciA+)

I don't know how you do it.
At least I can walk away from some of the foolishness.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (qCMvj)

465 You were never open to Trump Ace.

You only pretended to flirt with Cruz.

You were Rubio, through and through. Always. Tell Rick and Charles and all the boys and girls at the GOPe hi at the regular meetings.

***

Are you fucking insane? And, by that, I don't mean *crazy internet troll* type of crazy, but actual, clinical insanity.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (8PbKi)

466 Thanks to all you MAGA-spouting jerkoffs in here for making me look like a fucking idiot trying to thread the needle on the intellectual defensibility of conservative support for Trump.

This is what makes populism a suicide pact.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (xuouz)

467 The weird factor this election is off the chart.

Looked at a poll this morning for Pennsylvania. Basically a four way tie for first place. Kasich, Rubio, Trump, Cruz.

Won't mean much, probably. Usually it's over by the time Pennsylvania gets to vote. This year, who knows?

Posted by: mega machines at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (fbovC)

468 457
Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump
donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (kZNQE)
they don't care. they really don't.
Trump could have given BJ's to Obama himself and his followers would still vote for him, because he's an "alpha" with "swagger", that's all
Trump gives good feelz, everything else is irrelevant

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (lVU49)

469 We must burn Trump down.

Take a wrecking ball to Trump.

He must be destroyed.

Trump money has destroyed this country. He has bribed every politician.

Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (VoCyE)

470 Rubio/ Cruz or Cruz/Rubio? Who can tell them apart. Ineligible, amnesty loving Cubans twins. They stick together.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence
---------------------
Dude, you are more tiresome than Prescient at this point. We heard you the first 4000 times.

Posted by: Chi at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (3Ikqi)

471 Trump WILL MAKE PARODY GREAT AGAIN!
_______________________

At least when Trump is president, the MSM will end their embargo on making fun of the president. He'll be mocked and ridiculed mercilessly 24/7, unlike the Mocha Messiah, about whom the media could find nothing funny or mock-worthy (despite the reams of material Obama gave them).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (df5V4)

472 He will destroy this nation, like he has destroyed our Party.

Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (VoCyE)
______

I have nothing but contempt for Trump, but this is ridiculous. A guy like Trump doesnt get as far as he does in a healthy party. The GOP was at least damaged, if not "destroyed", before anyone ever considered voting for Trump.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (5aY0/)

473 Mario still ain't my guy, but that clip was straight political pr0n.

Enjoyed the podcast, and respectfully disagree with Drew. I think this hit is going to leave a mark. "Con artist" is the perfect kill shot because it has the same effect that "low energy" had of pointing something out--like that young woman with a veil/old lady with a babushka hidden double image picture--which now that you've seen it, you can't not see it every time you look.

Posted by: KillianThyme at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (n2r4H)

474 So let the choker get his 10 minutes of gloating. Buh bye.Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 01:45 PM (7QkL1)

You know what I know about some guys?Some guys hate hate hate to be ridiculed. Being laughed at, being the butt of a joke,is their greatest fear. I'm convinced they have nightmares about it. I once met a self-proclaimed Satanist at a party decades ago, in college,and couldn't help but poke fun at him, ask him why his Dark Lord And Master hadn't fixed his acne problem, stuff like that. Dude actually cried with rage. Hilarious.

So yeah, ridiculeis Rubio's Hail Mary pass. Depending on how Trump responds to it, it just might work. Your guy is notoriously thin-skinned, probably even more so than Obama. I imagine the Jeb Bush people are cursing themselves right now for not thinking of it sooner.

Posted by: troyriser at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (Hz/9Y)

475 "He is the worst liar that ever got this close to the whitehouse."
=======

Oy vey.

Posted by: Kensington at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (7Kbxu)

476 "have no idea where you guys get some of this crap.

maybe from Trump University
Posted by: ace"

Ha. I hope there was at least a picture with the DT cardboard cutout. For 36 grand, I hope it was the hugest and most luxurious cardboard ever.

Posted by: Benji Carver at February 26, 2016 02:36 PM (OD2ni)

477 >>>... and I forgot about Mia Love as possible VP
Posted by: jwb7605 at February 26, 2016 01:53 PM (DofIg)

Yes, please.

Posted by: m at February 26, 2016 02:36 PM (S/1cF)

478 But if you notice, when he gets personally involved with stuff (my favorite example is the USFL), it tanks.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:26 PM (Xd2w5)

Actually, when he becomes personally involved in something, things get done.

Check the skating rink in New York. 6 year clusterfuck by NY government, 3 months and Trump has it up and running at a profit.

That's how it's done.

Point to something Rubio or Cruz has done like that.

Posted by: jwest at February 26, 2016 02:36 PM (Zs4uk)

479 As someone who is on record as not being a Rubio supporter, let me say good for him.

No snark.

No nastiness.

Good for him.

Doesn't change my opinion on his substantive problems but good for him for playing the game.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (mf5HN)

Yeah, far be it from me to tell Gope how to bring down Trump, but this is what people were suggesting they do last year. They didn't do it. Fie on them, but putting these words in little Mario's mouth today is rather too late, I believe.

Ace is right, a brokered convention is possible, and they might get their candidate if they get there... but that just further destroys the Party, I believe.

So I'm fine with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:36 PM (TOk1P)

480 "He is the worst liar that ever got this close to the whitehouse."
=======

Hi! Have we met?

Posted by: Compulsively Lying Hillary Clinton On A Pile of Dead Bodies at February 26, 2016 02:36 PM (7Kbxu)

481 Aaaaaaaand that's it, I'm out.

Later. Maybe.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (9krrF)

Me too Brother. Later 'gaters

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:36 PM (UnJ7w)

482 MSNBC reporter just had a huge piece of snot drip out of her nose during a live shot.

The benefits of HDTV - Let's have a Miss Manners thread about when it's better to let it drip vs. snot rocket vs. wipe nose on shirtsleeve.

It's bound to go better than an ace no longer Trump curious thread.

Posted by: DaveA at February 26, 2016 02:36 PM (DL2i+)

483 I see Petunia has brought her lunacy over here from Hot Gas. Don't stroke out on us.

It's ok to be for Rubio, Ace. I once was too. Of course that was before he wanted to destroy the country. But no need to hide it.

Mikey: Ace cannot be changed. He has his marching orders. It was always Rubio.

He criticizes Rubio so hard now so that he will have "credibility" when he finally says, shucks, no one likes this Cruz guy, he can't win, we must back the Sun King Foam Party Rubio. And you can believe me, I was his harshest critic I tellz ya!!!

The great and fantastic readers of this blog deserve better.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (7QkL1)

484 >>>Yes!! Trump is finished (for the 177th time).

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 26, 2016 02:18 PM (0LHZx)

***

I am a Trump supporter.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (bpn7O)

485 Now would be a great time to re-litigate the Civil War!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (4FKcL)

486 @457: "Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee?"

Are you aware that it would be political suicide and corporate malfeasance if an NYC real estate developer did not donate to both? Realpolitik, yo.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (21hN3)

487 Allen West? No, no, the neo-nazis won't go for that.

Trump will nominate one of his mistresses for VP. She'll be the classiest, most elegant VP ever, plus she'll finally let him do her backdoor.

So, win/win.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (74ZYB)

488 I think Trump should send petunia a couple hundred bucks so she can get properly stoned and STFU on this blog.

Posted by: jwb7605 at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (DofIg)

489 I fully and completely support the GOPe if they will destroy Donald Trump.

We must destroy him. There is no other option.

Donald Trump is everything wrong in Washington, celebrity and money have destroyed Washington.

Destroy Trump is now the only goal of this election.

Destroy him.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (VoCyE)

490 The only chance to get Trump out of the race was early losses. Now the only thing that gets him out is multiple second place finishes (more than half) or falling behind in delegates. Neither of these will happen. He gets to the convention with at least a plurality of the delegates. If it's brokered for any of the last candidates standing over him, it's a shit show. If it's brokered for a candidate who dropped out, it's a shit show. If it's brokered for Mitt, it is a YUGE shit show. Just stock up on liquor and ammo and keep a sense of humor...
TRA LA LA
LA LA LA LA
TRA LA LA
LA LA LA LAAAAS

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (zRnNY)

491 "Except... undirected, unprincipled, philosophically unmoored strength is not necessarily a wonderful thing."

Yes- thank you. No one knows what Trump would do once in office. I don't even think he does. He's changed positions too many times for him to retain credibility. I don't know how one could support that.

Posted by: Myself at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (5wiU6)

492 I am getting pretty tired of the "Rubio isn't conservative" crap.

He is not ideal, and I have preferred Cruz since day 1. But Rubio has never, and would never, openly admit to approving of a healthcare mandate.

And to think, he is using the tired Marxist bromide that people who support free market healthcare want to see people dying in the streets. That has never been in the case in America, even before the ER laws were changed. Friendship societies in the 19th century took care of the very few people who could not see after themselves.

If Trump wants to take care of all these people supposedly keeling over on the cobbles, then open your wallet Trump and stop insisting we open ours.

Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (CgF8Y)

493 And Mittens pulling a Trump with the tax returns, Trumpsters get use to it if he makes the Republican candidate, the media is going to jump all over him.

Posted by: Skip at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (fizMZ)

494 152 >>>In Aces defense Rubio is not his guy.

in the interest of full transparency, I was so shocked at Trump's inability to cover up his complete lack of knowledge -- I always knew he lacked knowledge, but I thought maybe he could hide that enough to get elected -- that I now think Hillary clinton will destroy him. All she has to do is run Rubio's playbook against him.

I think Trump is a disaster in the making, now. I was open minded about it before. I'm not open minded about that now.

i'm not saying this to persuade anyone (I'll try that later). I'm just saying this now because I don't want anyone to be misled.

I *was* possibly Trump curious, and when people told me "If you keep supporting Cruz, Trump would win," I would say "So be it. I'm fine with it."

I'm not fine with it any longer. He has been exposed.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:00 PM (dciA+)

******

Nice of you to come around.

It comes, of course, after months of the conservative punditry, the talk radio wing of the conservative "movement," and no less than your guy Cruz, giving Trump all the cache he needed to be considered a legitimate contender (as well as a "conservative" choice!) and now we're left at the point where there's realistically probably too little time left to overcome that. So, thanks for being "curious" for so long because it helped serve your unquenchable hatred for "Mario."

I can't stand Cruz, quite honestly, and I think the one of the big takeaways from this election cycle, as unique as it is, is that the supposed brilliant guy, who was running "the smartest campaign," with "the best ground game" and had such "amazing data analytics" working for him, made the most egregious tactical error of the race by embracing the clown show - long enough for the clown show to steal just enough of his electorate as to make his chances of winning the primary, to be charitable, EXCEEDINGLY improbable.

That said, I'd probably take either combination of a Rubio / Cruz unity ticket if that could defeat the beast. But neither guy is willing to put aside their ego to make that happen, and even if they were, things have been so acrimonious for so long that even that might not be enough to stop Trump.

I don't take as dim a view of Trump's chances against Hillary as Ace, chiefly because Hillary's not really slick enough to use Rubio's new playbook against Trump as well as Rubio (or another charismatic politician) could, but yeah, anyone who's chief goal is to see Hillary defeated in November should be really, really worried about Trump being the nominee after last night.

Posted by: Vyce at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (25KoR)

495 So Trump is like Jefferson and Lincoln then. (Didn't Washington have cash flow problems too?)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/z22597a

Posted by: andycanuck at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (WOyz5)

496 My enemy is Hillary.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (qUNWi)

497 "But California has a wonderful economy and high paying jobs and MONORAIL so it's great."

And our lovely homeless encampments!

A Bernie Sanders supporter here was just now telling me about their having noticed the steady encroachment of permanent tent clusters right out on the sidewalks of Scum Scamfrisco.

So a city dedicated to leftism has a housing crisis. The cure? Silly rabbit! Even moar leftism, of course.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (noWW6)

498 446 christy

that is great, all of it

if America were full of you's, we'd be in a lot better shape

Posted by: Feh at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (QFRx/)

499 lol

Trump in Fort Worth: Rubio has bad temperament. Not presidential material. Once a choker, always a choker. Epic meltdowns.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (3dOE/)

500 Enthusiasms ... enthusiasms ..

Posted by: Donald Trump at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (evdj2)

501 But will he do any of this against Hillary?

He would hammer Hillary over the emails. He's already said Hillary is disqualified from being President for compromising national security.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (/GMrP)

502 Trump is a neo-nazi who buys slaves from other countries to run his spa.

Trump needs to be destroyed.

And if we lose to Hillary. We will be better off.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (VoCyE)

503 "Dude, you are more tiresome than Prescient at this point. We heard you the first 4000 times."

Apparently not. Read about former Cruz supporters finally turning on him last night after his big Rubio 'hug' after the debate. Some are so willfully blind.

Beck is open borders and Cruz is attached to him at the hip. You'd think some would get a clue.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (tLM9s)

504 Yes. A YouTube video is going to do Trump in. Close the doors. It's over for Trump.

Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (Fmupd)

505 Now would be a great time to re-litigate the Civil War!

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (4FKcL)

Fck the Roundheads! Cromwell in particular. Wait..which Civil War?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (493sH)

506 Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump

donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic

Senatorial Campaign Committee?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (kZNQE)
they don't care. they really don't.
Trump
could have given BJ's to Obama himself and his followers would still
vote for him, because he's an "alpha" with "swagger", that's all
Trump gives good feelz, everything else is irrelevant

Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (lVU49)

No, I think that $9 grand was for Amy Schumer to go around the world on him.

Now, I might rather spend the money on Chuck "U" Schumer, so.... maybe not such a wise investment, really.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (TOk1P)

507 Rubio was too nice and shiny to be "brutal." You want brutal? When Rubio tried to say Trump hired all those foreign works, Trump said "yeah, I *hired* people. You've never hired anyone in your life." Then he shuddered like Rubio was a bad taste in a burp that passed.
Brutal.
Posted by: Feh

Counterpoint:

When Trump boasted that illegal immigration would have never come up this election season if it weren't for him, Cruz countered: I have been talking about illegal immigration for years and even fighting my own party on it, where were you Donald? You were firing Dennis Rodman on Celebrity Apprentice.

Posted by: Cheri at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

508 >>The benefits of HDTV - Let's have a Miss Manners thread about when it's better to let it drip vs. snot rocket vs. wipe nose on shirtsleeve.

It was horrific. It didn't just drop out, it was a hanger that slowly dripped out of her nose, getting looooonger until it just snapped.

I might be permanently scared after witnessing that.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (/tuJf)

509 "Nobody gives a doodie about Trump's "policy positions." They want him to
swing into DC on a wrecking ball attached to a towering crane
emblazoned with a "TRUMP" logo, and just knock the whole place down.
(Metaphorically speaking, of course.)"

There would be no wrecking ball. He doesn't want to destroy anything. He wants to OWN it himself.

Posted by: Myself at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (5wiU6)

510 No because both parties will join forces to keep him out. I will join with Democrats to keep him out.

He will destroy this nation, like he has destroyed our Party.

Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (VoCyE)

____________________________________________

"I'm wilting! wilting! Oh, what a world! What a world!"

Posted by: NotCoach at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (rsudF)

511 You don't get to vote for the perfect candidate, i.e.; the one that agrees with you on every issue you can ennumerate. You vote for the one which matches up with you the most, and which you think will make the best president. Also, much of the job of POTUS, and the decisions that need to be made during the term, is unknowable in advance, so pick the one you think will respond best to crisis.

If that is Trump for you, fine. It's Rubio for me.

Posted by: Steve Walsh at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (6CCkt)

512 petunia, let me correct that for you.

~~Trump~~Washington DC must be destroyed. Fully and completely so hethey slinks off to an
island somewhere and can never show his face in this country ever again.

...

~~Trump~~The Republican Party, co-conspirators with the democrats and the multicultural internationalists of the Chamber of Commerce is an ulcer on the body politic. HeThey must be destroyed forever.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (ZbV+0)

513 Marco is kind of mercurial. And sweaty. Up, down, up, down, H2O, H2O. Sort of like Obama. And why are some rude people calling him Narco? What's it all about?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (/f6Nd)

514 Reading upthread...if Trump picked West for his VP I would laugh hysterically, wet my pants, and put up a sign in yard. Not sure of order of events, but I love West. xoxo

Christy, what happened to that nap, honey? You are getting le Hilz coughing again and her mean resting face. Time for facial mask and tranq.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (wAMRL)

515 (gives petunia a bag of chips and directions to the clinic)

Posted by: Feh at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (QFRx/)

516 Make it stop, Mommy! Make it stop! Big mean mans hurted me!

Posted by: Jeb Bush at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (u0s1P)

517 Hillary is not the threat to this country that Donald Trump is.

The enemy is Trump and all is dirty money in our politics.

Get Trump out.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (VoCyE)

518 Fck the Roundheads! Cromwell in particular. Wait..which Civil War?

Octavius Rex!!

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie! at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (evdj2)

519 That video was bigly huge.

Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (lVU49)

520 Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (VoCyE)

Who are you? Dr. Evil?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (8ZskC)

521 457 Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (kZNQE)

Obutthatsdifferent.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (u0lmX)

522 Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee?
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (kZNQE)

Yes, and prescient doesn't care because he grew out of the scum on the underside of an LGF comment.

I don't care because he donated to everyone, R and D, and now he's shoving it up the republican's asses by beating them in the primary and he'll do the same to the dems in the general. Then HE will be the one getting donations from THEM.

And hopefully walking the walk, and not just talking.

Look, I'm not happy about this either. If he was a perfect, easily defensible candidate he wouldn't need to be defended constantly, like I spend god knows how much time on this site doing.

But opposition to him is nihilism, because no one else in the republican race can win the general.

Let It Burn is sexy and dangerous but I don't actually want it. Trump's the last stop before civil conflict. He's not a great candidate and any way you look at it's a long shot he's really able to fix the country, but that's a long shot anyway.

Here we are.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (xuouz)

523 Donald Trump is Washington DC

He must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (VoCyE)

524 As Mitt couldn't go after TFG about TFGCare neither can Trump go after Hillary on say for example the Best SOS evan
--

But Rubio can't go against her on illegal immigration. It'll be Mitt redux.

I'm fortunate that I'll be voting for Cruz soon, so I can vote on principle. But even on the "electability" argument, I think Cruz has a stronger shot than Rubio if he's the nominee. Surely the Pragmatic Republicans will back him if he's the nominee and because he's hated by the Senate (a hated organization), he'll pull at least some of the "throw the bums out" crowd. And there will be true voter enthusiasm from conservatives.

He's battle-hardened in a way that Rubio simply is not. Cruz has been getting attacked by the MSM, Fox News, and a good share of the Right-leaning GOPe media types.

As I said, it doesn't affect my vote -- Cruz will be on my ballot and I'll happily vote for him -- but I see a lot of people buying this narrative about how unelectable Cruz is based on no data.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (t5zYU)

525 Are you aware that it would be political suicide and corporate malfeasance if an NYC real estate developer did not donate to both? Realpolitik, yo.

Judging by Trump's record, it's also corporate malfeasance to hire American workers when you can use illegals for a fraction of the cost.

Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (/GMrP)

526 I guess Ace is not for Trump then. I guess it's Cruz for him. Okay, we will see how it all plays out either guy means the same to me, a real positive. Hope when it's all done, we can go back to being the happy irresponsible layabouts that our parents warned us against.

Posted by: kraken at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (sdxPm)

527

Rubio is calling Trump a con artist but the knock on Rubio is that he isthe one who is the con artist.

Pot calling kettle black, at best. This is the type of politics that has been turning voters off for decades.

Even if successful, it does nothing to establish Rubio as trustworthy.

The sad fact is that like him or not, Trump can possiblywin.
Like him or not Rubio can't win.
Like him or not Cruz can't win.

Its a bad scenario made worse by the fact that a democratic victory is really a socialist, criminal enterprise victory.
Frankly its unknowable whether any of these people would be effective Presidents. The only issue we tease ourselves about it whether we can "trust" them or not.
I trust that Trump is not establishment. I trust that he is a Patriot. I don't know if he'd be as socially conservative as say Romney, but I know the democratic alternatives are all worse.
I trust that Rubio is of the GOPe. I trust that he will sell us out on immigration. I expect he would stand with Israel. But after a Rubio immigration change, in 10 years we will be an entirely blue country and Israel is ultimately on their own in that scenario.
I trust that Cruz is the most reliably conservative and likely to protect and preserve the constitution. I believe Cruz respects the rule of law and would appoint reliable conservative Justices if the opportunity occurs. I trust that fully 20% of the republican's would refuse to vote for Ted because they for some reason unknowable to me, think he's icky. They can't define this other than they do not like his speaking style or his hair or his face. This is yet another reason why our country is doomed. These same people also don't like Trump's speaking style either, and were offended when Trump comments on the appearance of other candidates.
These people call themselves republican's but in reality, issues and politics have nothing to do with their votes, its about personality and feels.

Posted by: simplemind at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (JTwsP)

528 Rubio has learned the most important Trump lesson : It's easy to talk smack when no one talks back.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (84oQa)

529 We must burn Petunia down.

Take a wrecking ball to Petunia.

She must be destroyed.

Petunia's broke ass hasn't built shit in this country. She couldn't bribe a bum.

Petunia must be destroyed.

Posted by: Skeezix at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (WnCSK)

530 Busy busy busy so I shall use a numbered list.

1. Petunia is Begonia. Begonia is Petunia. Both are a sock. (I suspect our beloved Empress, but have no evidence.)

2. Trump probably offered to retire Christie's campaign debt in return for an endorsement. This happens every election year. It was probably easier for Da Big Guy because he loathes Rubio.

3. I have seen 9 presidential elections as an adult. There is no precedent in my experience for this election. I'm not smart enough to predict how it might go and, lacking any experience with this, all I can do is sit back and marvel.

4. The new nics are mostly paid trolls. They will disappear around Thanksgiving. Again, all IMHO.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

531 Finish him.

*scratches Mr. Biggles head*

Posted by: Petoooonia at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (8ZskC)

532 giving Trump all the cache he needed
That's "cachet", Einstein!

Posted by: mario rubio's scriptwriters at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (WOyz5)

533 489 I fully and completely support the GOPe if they will destroy Donald Trump.

We must destroy him. There is no other option.

Donald Trump is everything wrong in Washington, celebrity and money have destroyed Washington.

Destroy Trump is now the only goal of this election.

Destroy him.
Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (VoCyE)

YOUR POINT IS MUCH BETTER MADE WHEN USING ALL CAPS PETUNIA. AND BOLD

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at February 26, 2016 02:42 PM (/D5Lf)

534 Who are you? Dr. Evil?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 02:40 PM (8ZskC)

__________________

Trump is Dr. Evil.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:42 PM (VoCyE)

535 486 @457: "Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee?"

Are you aware that it would be political suicide and corporate malfeasance if an NYC real estate developer did not donate to both? Realpolitik, yo.

So your argument is we should trust Donald Trump, because he's a shameless opportunist. Uh, sure.

But no, it makes sense: if he hadn't supported Democrats he might have had to declare multiple bankruptcies. Oh wait...

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:42 PM (74ZYB)

536 What this thread needs is drum circles and bullhorns.

Battle of the bullhorns.

boom da
boom da
rat rat rat rat a tat bombda

Posted by: Basic Argyle at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (+XvV5)

537 Why no Mr. Trump. I expect you to die.

Posted by: Aurich Petuniafinger at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (8ZskC)

538

the video was okay
Rubio seemed relaxed
he's a good speaker
he was having fun
but, some of it was embarrassing to hear

a lot of people thought mocking TFG would work
it didn't. Maybe there wasn't enough mocking.

If only people understood the stakes, and that we are actually voting for a President of the United States, and not Top Squatter.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (qCMvj)

539 429 As someone who is on record as not being a Rubio supporter, let me say good for him.

No snark.

No nastiness.

Good for him.

Doesn't change my opinion on his substantive problems but good for him for playing the game.
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at February 26, 2016 02:31 PM (mf5HN

I nominate you for President of this club

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (voOPb)

540 Fck the Roundheads! Cromwell in particular. Wait..which Civil War?Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (493sH)

I recently bought a working reproduction of an English Civil War-era doglock pistol from Middlesex Village Trading Post. Haven't received it yet but it looks likeawesomeness personified.

Posted by: troyriser at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (Hz/9Y)

541

Trump money has destroyed this country. He has bribed every politician.

Sounds more like every politician has destroyed this country, sugar tits.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (oVJmc)

542 President Platitudes . It does roll off the tongue nicely.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (sUMfc)

543 Trump's comments were Feb 2011 according to another source, shortly before NATO and US went in. As I recall, that was after the "freedom fighters" (we were backing) were already fighting, and we should have gone in earlier. That was the whole "no boots on the ground" debate, even though most were sure we had at least covert boots there.

I don't know just what Trump knew, and most claim we were not involved then (no boots). But it was underway, and most of us at that point wondered why we were waiting. I'd guess we didn't want to look like we were doing it ourselves, so like Iraq, we let them supposedly fight, then it gets messy.

But Trump will have to explain more detail on what he was thinking at that point.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 02:44 PM (eUbDe)

544 Don't blame me. I voted for Pataki.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at February 26, 2016 02:44 PM (4FKcL)

545
O/T but is anyone else getting "Enhance your breasts without surgery" ads? LOL

Just to reiterate for the benefit of cismen seeking to transition, these things are SCAMS. You will most likely need implants. Also, vocal surgery is rarely successful. I recommend a voice coach, or the Finding Your Female Voice lessons from Andrea James.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at February 26, 2016 02:44 PM (IDHFk)

546 If anyone wants a laugh, look at the two black ladies who were on the Carol Costello show on CNN... They actually made her uncomfortable when mentioning Rubio's possible gay past. (On YTube - title is "The 'Stump for Trump Girls' Just Said..." It is priceless

Posted by: Baldy at February 26, 2016 02:44 PM (1SCTq)

547 You were Rubio, through and through. Always. Tell Rick and Charles and all the boys and girls at the GOPe hi at the regular meetings.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (7QkL1)

Gee, does the banhammer make a sound loud enough that I should cover my ears?

Posted by: stuiec at February 26, 2016 02:44 PM (G/C31)

548 you don't have to wait for that. I'm not Cruz 1, Rubio 2, Trump somewhere below Kasich and Carson.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 02:20 PM (dciA+)

I'd be there too if (a) Rubio weren't polling so far ahead in the general, (b) Cruz weren't polling even in the primaries and (c) Rubio hadn't filleted Trump last night.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (Xd2w5)

549

I dont see how anyone is going to catch Trump, Rubio will not drop out and he will not join a ticket with Cruz as veep

Cruz should win TX. Rubio wont win anything. Trump will win the rest

Posted by: ThunderB at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (zOTsN)

550 It's like a cage match between a profusely sweating Ricky Ricardo and the mascot from Bob's Big Boy with a NY accent.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (GGCsk)

551 457 Are the people screaming about Rubio and Schumer aware that Trump donated $9,000 to Schumer and donated $116,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee?
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 26, 2016 02:34 PM (kZNQE)

Yeah, but Trump is fighty and outsidery and businessy and stuff. Totally different.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (74ZYB)

552 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:43 PM (qCMvj)

Did you listen to Trump's speech?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (sUMfc)

553
And if we lose to Hillary. We will be better off.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (VoCyE)

The methadone clinic is thataway --------------------->

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (FsuaD)

554 Busy busy busy so I shall use a numbered list.

1. Petunia is Begonia. Begonia is Petunia. Both are a sock. (I suspect our beloved Empress, but have no evidence.)

2. Trump probably offered to retire Christie's campaign debt in
return for an endorsement. This happens every election year. It was
probably easier for Da Big Guy because he loathes Rubio.

3. I have seen 9 presidential elections as an adult. There is no
precedent in my experience for this election. I'm not smart enough to
predict how it might go and, lacking any experience with this, all I can
do is sit back and marvel.

4. The new nics are mostly paid trolls. They will disappear around Thanksgiving. Again, all IMHO.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 26, 2016 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

Agreed, except #1. I believe Petunia represents some not-yet-revealed psychosis that someone is going to get rich writing the book about.

She/it may or may not be the nutjob formerly known as Curious.

Not a sock.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (TOk1P)

555 @508. Jack, snot is a subject (this week) I relate to. I was diagnosed yesterday with bronchitis. Very little snot to speak of. Mystery virus of third world. No fever, just coughing attacks in middle of night. Being a retired nurse and total neurotic, I am mystified by this one. But poison seems to be working, but it is horrid and must be what Hilz takes daily to be so mean.

Where was I? Oh, yes, snot. Sorry I missed the teevee shot. I was scarred for life in 7th grade when a girl in my class, in lunchroom...barf, was snickering at something said. She SNOTTED a mass of green goo all over her hand. And I mean, whoa, Nellie, did not know anyone could do this. Neon green, too. We all screamed (I mean, 7th grade, but probably would do this now), and went to another table. Someone, a saint, had the sense to give her the napkin dispenser. To make a long story short: she was rather pretty, but remained, to this day, a spinster. Perhaps it scarred her as well. I am thinking I would have moved out of state under witness protection. xoxo

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (wAMRL)

556 >>Cruz should win TX. Rubio wont win anything. Trump will win the rest
<<

Hands down, Rubio is going to win Miss Poland Springs 2016.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (GGCsk)

557 Damage? I doubt it. The preference cascade likely started after South Carolina. This might have worked back in August, but you know GOPe. Six months late and a dollar short.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (4ErVI)

558 Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (VoCyE)

Chill, flower - you're just repeating yourself.

Here's your pat on the head - now go and take a nap, you've fulfilled your duty.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsor of the 2016 Trump of Doom Tour! at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (hLRSq)

559 She/it may or may not be the nutjob formerly known as Curious.

I love the smell of catpiss in the morning.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

560 "You were firing Dennis Rodman on Celebrity Apprentice. "

Counterpoint:

"You would've kept Dennis Rodman around, like that nutball in North Korea?"

Posted by: Feh at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (QFRx/)

561 That the thing...why should Cruz drop out? He won Iowa and may win Texas. Rubio hasn't won shit and Florida is looking doubtful. Just asking...

Posted by: Skeezix at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (WnCSK)

562 Battery's gone. I'm out.

Posted by: Soona at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (Fmupd)

563 he will not join a ticket with Cruz as veep

----------

Out of curiosity why do you say that? I'm sure it is not his preference, but why would he turn it down (assuming Cruz is in position to win the nom or does win the nom)

Posted by: SH at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (gmeXX)

564 The enemy is Trump and all is dirty money in our politics.
---
Que?

Posted by: $148 million burned on Jeb at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (ZbV+0)

565 When Trump boasted that illegal immigration would have never come up this election season if it weren't for him, Cruz countered: I have been talking about illegal immigration for years and even fighting my own party on it, where were you Donald? You were firing Dennis Rodman on Celebrity Apprentice.
Posted by: Cheri at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

I heard that out of Cruz last night and to anyone with six brain cells, they are going to think to themselves, yes, Trump was not a politician in DC doing nothing about immigration reform.

Cruz may have been fighting it, but to try to peg Trump as being willfully supporting illegal immigration because he wasn't also in DC is a losing comment to the great unwashed out here in flyover country.

Cruz ought to not be reminding us of how he and the rest of the Republicans have failed at doing what they were sent to Washington to do.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (dErES)

566 58
I am finished as a Republican....

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (VoCyE)

Why do I get the feeling that you never even started?

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (43OZ6)

567 Did you listen to Trump's speech?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (sUMfc)

Is this a /sarc question?
if not, his speech today?

no, only soundbites on Rush, but I've since turned off Rush

I prefer music.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (qCMvj)

568 A history of Trump's donations linked in my sock. More to Republicans than Dems.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (WOyz5)

569 The sad thing is

Posted by: Baldy at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (1SCTq)

570 The new nics are mostly paid trolls.

--

Not me!

Not getting paid a penny.

Posted by: Basic Argyle at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (+XvV5)

571 Allen West as Trump's VP I'm not even sure if Trump knows who Allen West is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (w4NZ8)

572 550 It's like a cage match between a profusely sweating Ricky Ricardo and the mascot from Bob's Big Boy with a NY accent.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 26, 2016 02:45 PM (GGCsk)

*wipes monitor

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (/D5Lf)

573 It's time for the party and the nation and the nation and the universe and the multiverse and everyone else to unite behind the one candidate who get us out of this mess.

Jim Gilmore

Anyone who doesn't endorse Gilmore by the end of the day hates America and wants us all to die.

Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (74ZYB)

574 I think Christie is a useful attack dog for Trump. If there's one thing he's great at, its going for the throat and doing it really well. I'm no fan of Christie in general, but if you give him a target, he'll rip it to shreds. And in the process, Christie gets great attention and likely a cabinet slot. I don't see him a VP because 'two white dudes' is a thing of the past, but somewhere.

So, tactically, a good move on both their parts. It should be more than enough to brush aside Rubio's suddenly discovered gonads (as provided him by carefully researched GOPe lawyers and staffers). You know Jeb was lining all this up but couldn't get momentum.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+)

575 That the thing...why should Cruz drop out? He won Iowa and may win Texas. Rubio hasn't won shit and Florida is looking doubtful. Just asking...
Posted by: Skeezix at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (WnCSK)

But he's so cute in that video and he really Took It To Trump in the debate.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (xuouz)

576
Funny tat you should mention that.

I remember warning people that when the "Smartest Man in Delaware" refused to fucking campaign and ran his mouth about proudly voting for global bullshit cap and trade the WEEK BEFORE THE PRIMARY may not be the best idea. Kinda like Jeb!

And he got his ass kicked by a witch.

Now the best and the brightest are getting their asses handed to them by a showman.
Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 02:30 PM (326rv)

1. You're beating the best and brightest by supporting a guy who constantly brags about having gone to Wharton, was born into great wealth, and has said he's better than his critics (Krauthammer, Goldberg), because he has more money with them.

2. The end result was that the Dem, Coons, won by 17 points. So I'm not sure what you accomplished.

3. I'm just curious. Do you think Christine O'Donnell was hurt by having had a picnic at a Satanic altar and saying "I dabbled in witchcraft."

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2016 02:48 PM (Pqhmy)

577 I might be permanently scared after witnessing that.

Scarred or scared? Ain't spelling fun.

Iron will or just didn't notice?

Posted by: DaveA at February 26, 2016 02:48 PM (DL2i+)

578 @554...Burt, is curious the cat pee person? Interesting theory, as she/it does write the same.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 02:48 PM (wAMRL)

579 Cruz may have been fighting it, but to try to peg Trump as being willfully supporting illegal immigration because he wasn't also in DC is a losing comment to the great unwashed out here in flyover country.
---

Sure he was. He supported the Democrats who rubber stamped Obama's agenda.

Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:48 PM (t5zYU)

580 >>>www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rksd80-FCAw
Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 01:58 PM (eUbDe)

Thanks for that.

Posted by: m at February 26, 2016 02:48 PM (S/1cF)

581 Nood, about Nat Geo

Posted by: Skip at February 26, 2016 02:49 PM (fizMZ)

582 I'm halfway expecting the GOPe to put a loaded revolver up to the side of its head and pull the trigger.

Posted by: Fritz at February 26, 2016 02:49 PM (UzPAd)

583 Well, we haven't seen our EMT Hectors in a while.....

Posted by: Lizzy at February 26, 2016 02:49 PM (NOIQH)

584 I despise both, but I have to say that its more important to beat Rubio than Trump. Rubio is basically running to test if you can lie your way into office, do a 180 and compeletely turn on your constituency and not only be reelected, but rewarded with a promotion to the highest office of the land.

If this proposition isnt defeated thoroughly and humiliatingly, there is nothing the establishment cannot get away with.

As Churchill famously said: "We ve already established what you are. Now we re just haggling over the price."

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 26, 2016 02:49 PM (5aY0/)

585 Here's your pat on the head - now go and take a nap, you've fulfilled your duty.

Not until I get my Graham cracker!

Posted by: Spitoonia at February 26, 2016 02:49 PM (4WhSY)

586 Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:35 PM (VoCyE)

Is arts craft time over at the home? You're late for your nap.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 26, 2016 02:49 PM (4ErVI)

587 This guy is growing on me. That was some funny stuff.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 02:49 PM (pUDQf)

588 "So yeah, ridiculeis Rubio's Hail Mary pass. Depending on how Trump responds to it, it just might work. Your guy is notoriously thin-skinned, probably even more so than Obama. I imagine the Jeb Bush people are cursing themselves right now for not thinking of it sooner."

Yeah, like Vincente Fox, China, the Pope, El Chappo, England, DNC/RNC, Bush Family, ALL media, seventeen Republican candidates, Hollywood...all coming after Trump for over 8 months was nothing.

Delusional.

Trump is the undisputed champ. He is all but the nominee now.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 02:50 PM (tLM9s)

589 She/it may or may not be the nutjob formerly known as Curious.

I love the smell of catpiss in the morning.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

Smells like.... vinegar!

Gotta go, but I must say this thread really was significantly less acrimonious than I expected. No matter how hard I tried.....

Posted by: BurtTC at February 26, 2016 02:50 PM (TOk1P)

590 571 Allen West as Trump's VP I'm not even sure if Trump knows who Allen West is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (w4NZ

Well this won't help matters...

http://tinyurl.com/go2nxvl

It's not clear whether this was produced by an over-zealous Trump supporter, the official campaign team or by some other party altogether, but one thing is for certain, it was NOT authorized by Col. Allen West. The photo was taken while he was a Member of Congress with a number of black conservatives during Black History Month.

Posted by: RWC-Team BOHICA at February 26, 2016 02:50 PM (/D5Lf)

591 @577...I say scarred. As snot phobia for life. Lesson learned, do not snicker with sinus full of snot.

Also, do not mess with me while I have Hilz Beetchy Virus and Poison antibiotic, Mr. Spell Check. bite moi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 02:50 PM (wAMRL)

592 570 The new nics are mostly paid trolls.

--

Not me!

Not getting paid a penny.
Posted by: Basic Argyle at February 26, 2016 02:47 PM (+XvV5)

Note the adverb "mostly."

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 26, 2016 02:50 PM (RD7QR)

593 Trump defends his political donations as a cost of doing business.

I have seen that pointing out Trump's inconsistencies is really not going to shoot him down.

Some people think he can't bluster his way past these issues. I would say, empirically, that he has and he will.

I am worried he will govern like Jesse Ventura. I would prefer Cruz. But I don't think Trump is going to lose.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 26, 2016 02:50 PM (/f6Nd)

594 GOPe has not figured out there has been a coup and they are out. The only way to save it is to put Cruz/Rubio on the same ticket/ GOPe, if it were able to permit themselves to think that, will insist that Rubio take the top spot. I dont know if Cruz will go for that. So its unlikely to happen even if they thought of it

I just dont see how anyone else gets the nom. It wont even be brokered, Trump will win it outright

Posted by: ThunderB at February 26, 2016 02:51 PM (zOTsN)

595 A history of Trump's donations linked in my sock. More to Republicans than Dems.

**

I realize I am in the minority here but I don't much care about his contributions to Dems. Businesses give to those who can make a difference to their industry. It sucks. It's a fucking disgrace that business must be done that way, but there it is.

The company for whom I was employed for 20 years was, politically, a very conservative company. They contributed heavily to the Dem congresswoman who sits on the subcommittee for our industry.

I can't spite Trump for this.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2016 02:51 PM (8PbKi)

596 Here was my pitch to The Donald:

You need a VP who is shorter and fatter than you, I'm your man.

The general election is going to be an all New York liberal three way, with Bloomberg and Hillary.

Let me be your anchorman.

Obviously America knows the best are New Yorkers--they have an inferiority complex and I'm the closest thing you can get to another New Yorker for your VP slot because of the electoral college rules--have one of your lawyers look that up.

Posted by: Chris Christie Beachin' at February 26, 2016 02:51 PM (mcm0N)

597 P.S. I used the term "Trump bros," because I feel like Trumpkins is too dismissive of Trump supporters, and I try not to insult people right off the bat when I'm trying to engage them in conversation.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 02:07 PM (KIvt1)

Is "Trump supporter" not in the lexicon at Stormfront?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 26, 2016 02:51 PM (afR/C)

598 I'm absolutely convinced petunia is a dem plant.

Silly really.

That the thing...why should Cruz drop out? He won Iowa and may win Texas. Rubio hasn't won shit and Florida is looking doubtful. Just asking...

Very good question.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 02:52 PM (qUNWi)

599 The great and fantastic readers of this blog deserve better.

Posted by: prescient12 at February 26, 2016 02:37 PM (7QkL1)

Save the scorn for the candidates, not the supporters here - because one day one of these candidates will be the nominee, and if it happens to be the candidate you support he is going to need more backing than you and his current faction alone can provide. If you have insulted all of the supporters of other candidates to the point that they'd rather be seen dead in a ditch with a Helen Thomas blow-up doll than support your candidate, then enjoy the reaping.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Sponsor of the 2016 Trump of Doom Tour! at February 26, 2016 02:52 PM (hLRSq)

600 Romney/Pudding Cup 2016!

Posted by: Petunia at February 26, 2016 02:52 PM (4ErVI)

601 Only reason Christie went with Trump is because he didn't want to be called a fat slob who looks like he ate a bridge and speaking of bridges did you know Christie..... Trump definitely would have gone there.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 26, 2016 02:53 PM (sUMfc)

602 >>I am finished as a Republican....
Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 01:50 PM (VoCyE)<<

I doubt you ever were one. Buh-bye.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 26, 2016 02:53 PM (GGCsk)

603 "helps to inherit your dad's fortune and business."

Trump's father died in 1999. Trump was financial success in his own right.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 02:53 PM (tLM9s)

604 Just watched it. I'm for SMOD, but I didn't mind this. This new style reeks of desperation and meaness. Yes, it's the same thing Trump does. Trump gets away with it because he is spending his own money and since he's been in the lead, he's taken the risks of it backfiring.

The shtick comes across much worse, IMO, when done from a candidate that is much younger than the target AND who hasn't won jack squat... AND he's playing with house money.

Posted by: Yip at February 26, 2016 02:53 PM (e7T6D)

605 That the thing...why should Cruz drop out? He won Iowa and may win
Texas. Rubio hasn't won shit and Florida is looking doubtful. Just
asking...
---
According to RCP, the GOP nomination stands at 33 Trump, 20 Cruz, 17 Rubio.

I don't see how anyone thinks it makes sense to expect the number 2 guy to drop out of the race in favor of number three.

Posted by: $148 million burned on Jeb at February 26, 2016 02:53 PM (ZbV+0)

606 Max Christie has been friends with Trump for 33 years

Posted by: ThunderB at February 26, 2016 02:53 PM (zOTsN)

607 Trump does not want Allen West. He will not pick anyone who would challenge him. My bet is on Rick Scott, but I think it will be a mistake. He doesn't need another big biz guy, he needs someone to soften his image and to go to funerals and ribbon cuttings.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (8PbKi)

608 Petunia is Begonia. Begonia is Petunia. Both are a sock. (I suspect our beloved Empress, but have no evidence.)

Begonia is Average Joe - service with a smile - and a pushed out cheek.

Petunia may be Average Joe, an AI script, curious, or just nutz.

Posted by: DaveA at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (DL2i+)

609 Nood, about Nat Geo
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Woohoo! Native girls' boobies!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (WOyz5)

610 Romney/Pudding Cup 2016!

I want pudding!!! Waaahhh!

Posted by: Spitoonia at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (4WhSY)

611 Trump is only winning because people have no respect for anyone in DC anymore....especially for Republicans who cannot fight the Dems, much less win against them.

Rubio mocking Trump is easy......we already know Republicans can battle against other Republicans.

Too bad they can't fight the real enemies of America. Too bad they can't fight FOR the American people.

It's to late now.

Hence Trump coming out months ago vowing to do just that.

Posted by: pam at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (cF0hS)

612 "Rubio was out this morning calling Trump a con man and suggesting he peed his pants."

I know that was funny. If ever there was a con man it's Rubio. Cruz too.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (tLM9s)

613 Sure he was. He supported the Democrats who rubber stamped Obama's agenda.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at February 26, 2016 02:48 PM (t5zYU)

And I supported the Republicans who did the same thing.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (dErES)

614 It's nothing, just about a show no one is ever going watch or be interested in

Posted by: Skip at February 26, 2016 02:54 PM (fizMZ)

615 Trump will pick a woman for VP.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 26, 2016 02:55 PM (xuouz)

616 Who built the pyramids?

Does God exist?

Is the A theory or B theory of time correct?

Is Petunia/Begonia for real, or is it just an annoying, overdone prank?

Posted by: angela urkel at February 26, 2016 02:55 PM (IDHFk)

617 Petunias are low energy. Not classy. I always pull them up. Not good.

Posted by: Don T. at February 26, 2016 02:56 PM (BHaRb)

618 Does any candidate pick a VP who would challenge him?

I don't get this take at all.

Posted by: eleven at February 26, 2016 02:56 PM (qUNWi)

619 "Trump does not want Allen West. He will not pick anyone who would challenge him."

Yeah, because a one term representative is such a big challenge to Trump. Give me a break.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 02:57 PM (tLM9s)

620 Hey assholes-- Cruz has been attacking Trump for more than a month. But when he's been in debates, he couldn't focus on Trump because Rubio was attacking him, and meanwhile, Rubio was too cowardly to attack Trump. He just wanted someone else to attack Trump.

last night was the first night RUBIO attacked Trump, not the first night Cruz did.

That said, when Rubio attacked, wow, he attacked.

****
Oh, so Cruz has been attacking Trump for a month......

.....after embracing him warmly for 5 or 6 months prior to that.

Cruz only started attacking once Donald began the "he's an ineligible Canadian!" crap, and he was forced to.

But of course, Rubio's the coward for not attacking Trump, even though he was......using Cruz's exact same playbook (i.e., not attacking until he deemed it "necessary," although in the case of both men, it appears their analysis as to when "necessary" was, was very wildly wrong).

Posted by: Vyce at February 26, 2016 02:57 PM (25KoR)

621 Cruz may have been fighting it, but to try to peg Trump as being willfully supporting illegal immigration because he wasn't also in DC is a losing comment to the great unwashed out here in flyover country.
Jen the Original

Jen - that wasn't my point. Yes, most certainly DC has let us down in so many ways it is sickening. I wasn't saying that Trump was willfully supporting illegal immigration as I was pointing out that Trump's boasts don't always measure up. Unfortunately Cruz is one Senator against a whole gang who want amnesty. This was a counterpoint that Feh brought up.

Posted by: Cheri at February 26, 2016 02:57 PM (oiNtH)

622 Yeah, because a one term representative is such a big challenge to Trump. Give me a break.

***

POTUS rarely pick someone as openly opinionated as West.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 26, 2016 02:58 PM (8PbKi)

623 Please do not let Trump pick Rick Scott. Please. Will be a good girl and not tell morons to bite moi. Will exercise every day. Will not call Katshit that name anymore. Please.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 26, 2016 02:58 PM (wAMRL)

624 FOX expert just said Trump University didn't even exist, and that people paid $36K for something that didn't exist. Beauty queen Carlson agreed with him ... it did not exist.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 02:59 PM (eUbDe)

625 Let me start out by saying I hate Marco Rubio. I will not vote for Mr. Amnesty, no way, no how.

But, he took a smart tack in that clip. For the first 5 minutes of the 9 minute clip, he was nailing Trump with some really good shots. But, then he went to the tweets. Spelling mistakes in tweets and the amazing insight that Trumphad someone touch up his makeup during the break. Had Rubio wrapped up after his first 5 minutes, it would have been much more effective, but by ending with 4 minutes of spelling mistakes, Rubio stepped on his own dick. Nobody gives a shit about spelling mistakes on Twitter and nobody, and I mean fucking nobody, is going to to into a voting booth and base their vote on who is the best speller.

Not that it matters to me. There is nothing Rubio can do to get my vote. If he is the nominee, I will write in Duncan Hunter or Sarah Palin or something like that.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 26, 2016 03:00 PM (R+30W)

626 At exactly 5:45 of the video...

Marco Rubio:"He spelled choker c-h-o-k-e-r chocker"

wait...what?
Did Rubio even know which was the correct spelling and which was incorrect when his handler sent him the tweet to read aloud and mock?

The original tweet:
"Lightweight Marco Rubio was working hard last night. The problem is, he is a choker, and once a choker, always a chocker! Mr. Meltdown."
source: http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/___/photos/2016/02/26/3d/d7/2-26-2016_11-49-47_AM.png

Posted by: pete at February 26, 2016 03:01 PM (meg+g)

627 I'll vote for Trump over Hildabeast but I'm sure you'll get only a occasional conservative decision from him.

Posted by: Skip at February 26, 2016 03:01 PM (fizMZ)

628 1. Petunia is Begonia. Begonia is Petunia. Both are a sock. (I suspect our beloved Empress, but have no evidence.)

Come on now. Alex would have to knock herself in the head repeatedly 7 or 8 times with a hammer to sound that stupid.

Petunia is a reminder that the anti-Trump hysterics can be as annoying and obnoxious as those who excuse away everything Trump does and says.

Posted by: Donna and V. (sans ampersands at the present time) at February 26, 2016 03:01 PM (u0lmX)

629 Everyone's priorities are different.

My priority is the defeat of the Bitch of Benghazi.
She is uniquely evil. She really is.

If Trump is the nominee, she will win easily, probably in a landslide. Jeb! was a certain loser too, IMO, but he would have done as well as McCain perhaps. (Thank God he is out.)

Okay. Here is a fantasy: Cruz makes a deal with the GOPe. He will support Rubio if they agree to make him Scalia's replacement.
This is just a fantasy. Maybe Cruz doesn't want the seat. And who would trust Rubio or the Turtle & pals to keep to the pledge?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2016 03:01 PM (T/5A0)

630 361 Anyway ... he does not support amnesty. Or has not said that at least.

Trump supports touchback amnesty, which places him to the left of everyone in the field. He also admitted that he has hired illegal aliens because they are more willing to take part-time jobs. Furthermore, Trump had no answer when asked how he could get Mexico to pay for the wall or why he refuses to make his clothes in the US instead of China and Mexico. So he is a complete fraud with regards to both illegal immigration and protectionism.

"Trump: I Hired Foreigners to Do Jobs Americans Wouldn't Do"- tws.io/21nyQp3

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at February 26, 2016 03:02 PM (YjDyJ)

631 Rubo just said that the party will split ifTrump wins.

I will not be part of Trump's party.

I thought I could support Trump if he won. But now. No. This is not rally around the nominee.

We must not let this happen to the conservative movement. If Rubio/Cruz lead this party to something other than Trump, I'm there.
Let the corruption machine that the Clintons built run DC.

We will build a party strong enough not to have to deal with the likes of Donald Trump.

I am a Rubio/Cruz Republican.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 03:02 PM (VoCyE)

632 This is big.

We are two parties now.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 03:03 PM (VoCyE)

633 If Rubio hadn't been a backstabber on amnesty and a rabid neocon he might have been worth a look. I am not interested in GWB's third term and that is basically what Rubio was offering. He and the others so badly misread the electorate he never had a chance.

Posted by: Chris Vaughn at February 26, 2016 03:04 PM (Bcqod)

634 Look--all the primaries were open or semi-open. Democrat kiddos at reddit said they were crossing over to vote for Trump as retribution for Bernie not getting a fair shake from the DNC. They feel like there was not a true democrat primary--so now they are going to turn the general into the democrat primary essentially. And not so crazy because the one thing Sanders and Trump have in common is statements in support of universal healthcare.

First closed Republican primary is Florida.

Anyways the liberals are winning no matter what--I had this figured out long ago.

That's why Obama's petname for me is --Huggie Smalls.

Posted by: Chris Christie Beachin' at February 26, 2016 03:04 PM (mcm0N)

635 I see the hatchlings of queen glowworm are out

Protectionism hurts lower and middle classes. If it worked, then an embargo would count as foreign aid

Posted by: A.G. at February 26, 2016 03:04 PM (DnQNa)

636 629 Everyone's priorities are different.

My priority is the defeat of the Bitch of Benghazi.
She is uniquely evil. She really is.

If Trump is the nominee, she will win easily, probably in a landslide. Jeb! was a certain loser too, IMO, but he would have done as well as McCain perhaps. (Thank God he is out.)

______________

Beating evil cannot be done with evil.

Okay. Here is a fantasy: Cruz makes a deal with the GOPe. He will support Rubio if they agree to make him Scalia's replacement.
This is just a fantasy. Maybe Cruz doesn't want the seat. And who would trust Rubio or the Turtle & pals to keep to the pledge?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2016 03:01 PM (T/5A0)

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 03:06 PM (VoCyE)

637 I'm pretty sure Trump will pick a woman as well if he's nominated, which seems likely at this point. It would help counter Hillary, make him seem more likable to women like how you get hit on more when with a girl than single, and would help counter the "misogynist" attack. Preferably a non-honky woman, to give the ticket more funk and alleviate the pop culture hate of whites.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)

638 (*I'm a Republican. I don't want to burn the GOP to the ground and salt the earth with my frustrated man-baby tears because I didn't get every goddamned thing I wanted from the GOP. Many here have made it abundantly clear that they're not Republicans. "Conservatism has failed", as an AoS Trump supporter said just last night.)

Conservatism has given us Obama and his many bipartisan victories. After "winning" the House. After "winning" Congress.

Am I supposed to wait for my nieces and nephews to die of their old age, collecting pennies on the dollars they will put into SS before we start seeing some conservative victories?

Or maybe we've already experienced the victories that conservatism will deliver. SS - morally bankrupt socialist pyramid scheme - conserved!

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 26, 2016 03:09 PM (uURQL)

639 1. You're beating the best and brightest by supporting a guy who constantly brags about having gone to Wharton, was born into great wealth, and has said he's better than his critics (Krauthammer, Goldberg), because he has more money with them.

2. The end result was that the Dem, Coons, won by 17 points. So I'm not sure what you accomplished.

3. I'm just curious. Do you think Christine O'Donnell was hurt by having had a picnic at a Satanic altar and saying "I dabbled in witchcraft."
Posted by: AD

Wrong again.

I'm NOT supporting Trump, and I didn't support COD in the primary. I voted for that asshole Castle. Who got his ass kicked.

You conveniently left out that he FUCKED UP REPEATEDLY.

Just like people are leaving out that the GOPe is FUCKING UP REPEATEDLY.

But it's easier to pretend that observing this means that you're supporting the other.

And that's why we lost in 2010 and why we're doing this in 2016.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 26, 2016 03:09 PM (326rv)

640 I will happily vote for either Cruz or Rubio. Trump? Never. He is an authoritarian who has repeatedly proven that he will not defend our God-given unalienable rights. Furthermore, he threatens and demeans anyone who dares to contradict him. He is like a spoiled child who has never been told "no", only he uses lawsuits and leaks as weapons. How is that any different from the SCOAMF? In fact, in that sense he may be worse because at least the SCOAMF is bound by ideology. Trump is for Trump first, last, and always.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at February 26, 2016 03:09 PM (YjDyJ)

641 "Oh, so Cruz has been attacking Trump for a month......

.....after embracing him warmly for 5 or 6 months prior to that.

Cruz only started attacking once Donald began the "he's an ineligible Canadian!" crap, and he was forced to. "

--------

Cruz was caught on tape smack talking Trump. That's when it all started.

Cruz then just started stealing everything that wasn't nailed down. Carson's votes, Trump's slogans.

Now he's all but endorsed Rubio. Gang of 8 Rubio.

Rubio/Cruz Cruz/Rubio two Cuban frauds.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:09 PM (tLM9s)

642 We are splitting the party.

I saw Cruz and Rubio join together. I will now support Cruz as the top on that ticket to get Trump out.

Nothing Cruz has done compares with the basic dishonesty of Trump.

Conservatives must unite against this poser.

Split the party. That's fine.

I don't' even care about Hillary now.

DC is so corrupt. And Trump is part and parcel of it.

You can't beat down that evil with someone even more evil.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 03:10 PM (VoCyE)

643 I'm used to internal exile. Been living that way for more than five decades.

If Trump is the nominee, my plan is to drunk-blog the entire next administration, because regardless of who wins, it's going to be a charlie foxtrot.

Posted by: DriveBy at February 26, 2016 03:10 PM (C9Vc8)

644 One thing I do know is that Cruz has been so successful and done so well in the election that from now on, the GOPe cannot ignore him. That makes him a powerhouse in the Senate and that should be amusing to watch.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 03:11 PM (39g3+)

645 Great. Rubio (and, by extension, the GOP) has shown that he knows how to go on the attack, and that he can be good at it.

What, exactly, is their excuse for not having done so against Obama's policies, on behalf of their own constituents, who elected them for just that purpose?

Kind of reveals something unpalatable about their (Rubio's) priorities...

Posted by: Piercello at February 26, 2016 03:12 PM (RXfvh)

646 635 Protectionism hurts lower and middle classes. If it worked, then an embargo would count as foreign aid

A fact sadly forgotten by far too many GOP primary voters.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at February 26, 2016 03:12 PM (YjDyJ)

647 "As I said, it doesn't affect my vote -- Cruz will be on my ballot and I'll happily vote for him -- but I see a lot of people buying this narrative about how unelectable Cruz is based on no data."

New Hampshire, South Carolina, Nevada for starters.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:13 PM (tLM9s)

648 It's seldom mentioned but Rubio has only 17 delegates to Trump's 81, and due to the way Texas apportions delegates, he must beat both Trump and Cruz.

RCP has Cruz at 34, Trump 26.8, Rubio 18.2

Rubio's comedy shtick isn't even capturing the news cycle, he's been trumped by Christie's endorsement.

https://youtu.be/OjzKiEs_pHI

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at February 26, 2016 03:13 PM (9HNfr)

649

I supposedly hate DC.

Sooooooo, I will vote for someone who lives in DC and claim that someone who doesn't instead does.

Cause I'm smart like that.

Posted by: Dan D. Lyin at February 26, 2016 03:13 PM (326rv)

650 "Trump's support is about wanting to see a wrecking ball taken to DC."

This is rich!

Trump is making deals! With Pelosi, with Schumer, with Christie!

No wrecking ball will happen.

You might get a wall...with amnesty as part of his deal.

Posted by: Harun at February 26, 2016 03:14 PM (UBBWX)

651 Rubio and Cruz need to keep ridiculing Trump.
No one gives a fuck about Chris Christie.

Mock, condemn, mock, repeat.

Trump's orange skin is even thinner than Obama's. He won't be able to handle it.

And if excising Trump means his supporters go somewhere else and we lose the WH again, so be it. I would rather lose without Trump than win with him.

Posted by: DRayRaven at February 26, 2016 03:14 PM (9YRwm)

652 So, finally went and did some research on the "Trump University"

So Trump decides he's going to start a seminar company in which one can pay $1500 for three days of online courses or $35,000 for a full mentorship course.

He calls it Trump University, which causes the AG of NY to go bonkers and threaten with legal action because it's not an accredited "university". Trump changes name to Trump Entrepreneur Institute and operates it for 5 years. He is currently being sued by students in a class action suit who say their expectations were not met.

I would assume that eventually, he will settle this class action suit and each participant will get some portion of their "tuition" back.

Am I impressed with this venture of his... No.
Am I really concerned over it . No. Business ideas fail all the time. This one was run poorly and eventually Trump closed it.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 26, 2016 03:15 PM (dErES)

653 Beating evil cannot be done with evil.

Okay. Here is a fantasy: Cruz makes a deal with the GOPe. He will support Rubio if they agree to make him Scalia's replacement.

This is just a fantasy. Maybe Cruz doesn't want the seat. And who
would trust Rubio or the Turtle pals to keep to the pledge?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2016 03:01 PM (T/5A0)

That is not going to happen (although petunia seems to approve of the idea

)

Rubio is for amnesty... he is not going to be the guy this year. Now in 8 years, after Cruz has set the course of the Supreme Court, deported the illegals here (as he has said he will do) and built the wall or barrier and moved us back toward where we should be, then MAYBE Rubio would be a good pick.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:15 PM (NPofj)

654 "I will happily vote for either Cruz or Rubio. Trump? Never."

Yep. So many Cruz supporters masks have finally dropped.

Amnesty whores - all.

It's funny to see the few Cruz supporters that are complete and total dupes finally wake up. Saw a few of those last night after Cruz started his wild accusations about Trump and his love for his bro - Rubio. They were shocked, shocked.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:17 PM (tLM9s)

655
Kind of reveals something unpalatable about their (Rubio's) priorities...
Posted by: Piercello at February 26, 2016 03:12 PM (RXfvh)

_______________

Priorities change.

We are splitting the Republican Party.

Trump is doing this with his celebrity, on no moral principles.

I have moral principles.

I am not a Republican first and a person second.

The ends don't justify the means.

Give me a Conservative Party or something else.

But don't call me a Trump Republican.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 03:17 PM (VoCyE)

656 I get where Ace is coming from, re: brokered convention. For that to work though, is it best that Rubio and Cruz stay in the race while attacking Trump? What if either drops out and endorses the other? I could see some of Rubio/Cruz crowd moving to Trump. Seems best that both stay in pulling 20 percent. Question then would be if they have the money for the burn rate.

Maybe take pages from Trump's campaign and get as much free press as possible. Rubio seems better at that than Cruz. Cruz seems to reserved to be caught having a guffaw at Donald's expense. Personally, I'd like to see what Mad Cruz looks like.

Seems like at least Rubio's campaign can pivot, even if it means pivoting right into the mud with Trump. I don't think Cruz will be as willing to go there, at least he's said he won't.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:18 PM (pUDQf)

657 t's seldom mentioned but Rubio has only 17 delegates
to Trump's 81, and due to the way Texas apportions delegates, he must
beat both Trump and Cruz.

RCP has Cruz at 34, Trump 26.8, Rubio 18.2

Rubio's comedy shtick isn't even capturing the news cycle, he's been trumped by Christie's endorsement.

https://youtu.be/OjzKiEs_pHI

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at February 26, 2016 03:13 PM (9HNfr)

It's not about Rubio winning. And Christie doesn't matter.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:18 PM (NPofj)

658 Isn't that special?

Posted by: Dana Carvey at February 26, 2016 03:18 PM (IDHFk)

659 Trump must be destroyed.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 02:29 PM (VoCyE)

You and Amishdude need to get a room.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 26, 2016 03:19 PM (afR/C)

660
Rubio is for amnesty... he is not going to be the guy this year. Now in 8 years, after Cruz has set the course of the Supreme Court, deported the illegals here (as he has said he will do) and built the wall or barrier and moved us back toward where we should be, then MAYBE Rubio would be a good pick.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:15 PM (NPofj)

__________________________

No. Not after Trump has destroyed everything we believe in.

No we will be a different party and we will run against you.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 03:19 PM (VoCyE)

661 NOW!

Posted by: Dana Carvey at February 26, 2016 03:20 PM (IDHFk)

662 Oh FFS. Please. Give me a break.

Posted by: Dana Carvey at February 26, 2016 03:21 PM (IDHFk)

663 Yep. So many Cruz supporters masks have finally dropped.

Amnesty whores - all.

Calling Cruz supporters " amnesty whores" is incorrect besides not being the best way to win support for Trump.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 03:22 PM (w4NZ8)

664 "Rubio and Cruz need to keep ridiculing Trump."

Why? Neither of them will win anything on Super Tuesday and Rubio will lose Florida.

People keep talking about Cruz winning Texas...maybe but like Chris Rock says, "You're SUPPOSE to take care of your kids." Cruz wants credit for winning a state he's SUPPOSE to win. Too funny.

They can join JEB! in the losers box. Maybe they could go on comedy tour with foam parties while Trump's building the wall.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:22 PM (tLM9s)

665 Yep. So many Cruz supporters masks have finally dropped.

Amnesty whores - all.

It's funny to see the few Cruz supporters that are complete and
total dupes finally wake up. Saw a few of those last night after Cruz
started his wild accusations about Trump and his love for his bro -
Rubio. They were shocked, shocked.

Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:17 PM (tLM9s)
So if we don't want Trump because we think he's an Amnesty supporting liberal, who donates to the Democrats, and think's Planned Parenthood is the shit, then we are amnesty whores?
I don't follow. Of course, I have yet to really figure out Trump supporters beyond the "Fuck the GOPe" mantra.
Seems that same mantra will be thrown right back at you with Trump's name replacing the GOPe. Because let it burn, right?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:23 PM (pUDQf)

666 I think it's about time for the BCC talking animals video ;^) and for me to lave this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExukCRD7gN0

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 03:24 PM (w4NZ8)

667 So if we don't want Trump because we think he's an
Amnesty supporting liberal, who donates to the Democrats, and think's
Planned Parenthood is the shit, then we are amnesty whores?
I don't follow. Of course, I have yet to really figure out Trump supporters beyond the "Fuck the GOPe" mantra.
Seems that same mantra will be thrown right back at you with Trump's name replacing the GOPe. Because let it burn, right?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:23 PM (pUDQf)

Wow! are the panties twisted right now

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:25 PM (NPofj)

668 >>>I love the smell of catpiss in the morning.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 26, 2016 02:46 PM (8ZskC)

***

When I lived in Japan, back in the day, I drank a lot of cowpiss.

Posted by: An Poc ar Buile at February 26, 2016 03:26 PM (bpn7O)

669 I think it's about time for the BCC talking animals video ;^) and for me to lave this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExukCRD7gN0

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 03:24 PM (w4NZ

Have a good time with the talking animals, Fenelon.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:26 PM (NPofj)

670 >>Yep. So many Cruz supporters masks have finally dropped.

>>Amnesty whores - all.

Are you really so blinded by your Trump love that you don't understand Trump is in favor of amnesty?

Careful who you call amnesty whores.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 26, 2016 03:26 PM (/tuJf)

671 654 Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:17 PM (tLM9s)

Trump is claiming he will enforce the rules of this country while being the only person on that stage who has repeatedly hired illegals. He continues to defend that practice. That makes him a complete and utter fraud. If your sole issue is illegal immigration, how can you support him?

"Trump: I Hired Foreigners to Do Jobs Americans Wouldn't Do"- tws.io/21nyQp3

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at February 26, 2016 03:30 PM (YjDyJ)

672 "Calling Cruz supporters " amnesty whores" is incorrect besides not being the best way to win support for Trump."

I said most. There are a few dupes out there. Not many but a few slow learners.

Trump has been bashed here since day one so I'm in no danger of losing Trump supporters.

Besides, losers don't get to choose. Funny how many Cruz supporters were demanding a SCOTUS or VP position. Losers with no leverage asking for free shit.

Cruz supporters are some of the biggest babies out there. They will sit home and sulk...or throw in for amnesty Rubio until he loses next.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:30 PM (tLM9s)

673 Seems like at least Rubio's campaign can pivot, even
if it means pivoting right into the mud with Trump. I don't think Cruz
will be as willing to go there, at least he's said he won't.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:18 PM (pUDQf)

I am content with Cruz sticking to the high road and acting Presidential. I am pleased as punch that Rubio is taking it to Trump on the low road though.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:30 PM (NPofj)

674 This is just a fantasy. Maybe Cruz doesn't want the seat. And who would trust Rubio or the Turtle & pals to keep to the pledge?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at February 26, 2016 03:01 PM (T/5A0)
____

There are enough conservative judges around. Why on earth would you take one of the few conservative politicians out of the political arena and put him on a court?

If the establishment wants to be rid of Trump so badly they should have a serious talk with their golden boy about life and career choices, and then rally behind Cruz.

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 26, 2016 03:30 PM (5aY0/)

675 Are you really so blinded by your Trump love that you don't understand Trump is in favor of amnesty?
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Well said Jack.

Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 03:31 PM (CgF8Y)

676 I do believe Trump supporters believe building a fifty foot wall makes the 12+ million illegals here already just disappear.

Or, according to Trump, they'll just leave when they see their buddies leaving?

I think that's his plan.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:31 PM (pUDQf)

677 "Are you really so blinded by your Trump love that you don't understand Trump is in favor of amnesty?"

No you are blinded by your love of Cruz that you can't see he and Rubio are Amnesty twins.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:32 PM (tLM9s)

678 do believe Trump supporters believe building a fifty foot wall makes the 12+ million illegals here already just disappear.

Or, according to Trump, they'll just leave when they see their buddies leaving?

I think that's his plan.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:31 PM (pUDQf)

Nah... according to Trump we need those illegals to do the jobs Americans won't.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:32 PM (NPofj)

679 Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:30 PM (tLM9s)

Well, you convinced me.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:33 PM (pUDQf)

680 No you are blinded by your love of Cruz that you can't see he and Rubio are Amnesty twins.

Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:32 PM (tLM9s)

What color is the sky in your world?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:33 PM (NPofj)

681 And what exactly, is Trump going to do about the people that come on legal visas but overstay? A wall won't do a thing about that.

Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 03:34 PM (CgF8Y)

682 "I am content with Cruz sticking to the high road and acting Presidential."

*Snicker*

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:35 PM (tLM9s)

683 Alberta Oil Peon, I had to google stormfront! whoa!

Yes, Trump supporter is the most proper way to put it. And I usually do, but sometimes I try to write in a casual tone. It usually fails, as here.

Posted by: gts109 at February 26, 2016 03:37 PM (KIvt1)

684 "What color is the sky in your world?"

Blue. The same as it is in New Hampshire, South Caroline, and Nevada.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:38 PM (tLM9s)

685 Being a Republican with Trump as the front runner, and trying to resist him in that role, is kind of like being a virgin and confronting sex. Resistance is futile, in the sense that eventually you're going to do it. And, yeah, you may to have to use lube the first time, and maybe subsequent times too, because it's a huge load, but if you hang in there you'll come to like it.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at February 26, 2016 03:39 PM (wLLbf)

686 Someone said Trump isn't a true conservative like Rubio. Really? Let's let everyone in the country and put them on welfare....that's real conservative. Rubio couldn't manage a lemonaid stand. As for the "real conservative", I am done with the so-called conservatives that have been selling us down the river! I will vote to elect NO professional politicians. It's Trump or done, get a clue! And oh, you don't like Trump's demeanor? Too bad, I want a cage fighter not another skinny pants metrosexual in the White House.

Posted by: Wayne Ville at February 26, 2016 03:39 PM (hx6+b)

687 One thing I do know is that Cruz has been so
successful and done so well in the election that from now on, the GOPe
cannot ignore him. That makes him a powerhouse in the Senate and that
should be amusing to watch.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 26, 2016 03:11 PM (39g3+)

I am holding out for President Cruz... and Abbott appointing another true conservative (although he would be hard pressed to find one with Cruz's intellect).

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:40 PM (NPofj)

688
firesteel.com

Recommended here I think, months ago.
You can get a stick of magnesium with an insert at Walmart for a couple of bucks. But you need the striker from firesteel.

(as demonstrated in the movie "Book of Eli" where he lights a fire with one flick of the striker)

Posted by: Basic Argyle at February 26, 2016 03:41 PM (+XvV5)

689 "And what exactly, is Trump going to do about the people that come on legal visas but overstay?"

Uh...send them back. You know, follow the law.

It's not difficult but you don't want it to happen so you put up false arguments to stop it.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:41 PM (tLM9s)

690 Posted by: Wayne Ville
------------------------------
"Too bad, I want a dictator."

Fixed.

Posted by: MJP at February 26, 2016 03:42 PM (CgF8Y)

691 Someone said Trump isn't a true conservative like
Rubio. Really? Let's let everyone in the country and put them on
welfare....that's real conservative. Rubio couldn't manage a lemonaid
stand. As for the "real conservative", I am done with the so-called
conservatives that have been selling us down the river! I will vote to
elect NO professional politicians. It's Trump or done, get a clue! And
oh, you don't like Trump's demeanor? Too bad, I want a cage fighter not
another skinny pants metrosexual in the White House.

Posted by: Wayne Ville at February 26, 2016 03:39 PM (hx6+b)

I think that was petunia who said that... she is either a Rubio supporter to the nth degree or paid staff (just my opinion on the staff thing). Don't take her words to heart.

And I want neither the lying orange lunatic nor the "skinny pants metrosexual" anywhere near the White House.

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:43 PM (NPofj)

692 "One thing I do know is that Cruz has been so
successful and done so well in the election that from now on, the GOPe
cannot ignore him. That makes him a powerhouse in the Senate and that
should be amusing to watch."

He's done so well, he has to cancel events in Super Tuesday states to campaign in his own state - the one he's SUPPOSE to win. Ha!

He'll be lucky to keep his Senate seat in 2018.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:44 PM (tLM9s)

693 What color is the sky in your world?

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:33 PM (NPofj)

A bright plaid - Royal Stewart. Why do you ask?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - See The Outrage Outlet's specials in the the weekly Firing Squad Circular! at February 26, 2016 03:45 PM (hLRSq)

694 Being a Republican with Trump as the front runner,
and trying to resist him in that role, is kind of like being a virgin
and confronting sex. Resistance is futile, in the sense that eventually
you're going to do it. And, yeah, you may to have to use lube the first
time, and maybe subsequent times too, because it's a huge load, but if
you hang in there you'll come to like it.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at February 26, 2016 03:39 PM (wLLbf)

EEEEWWWWWWE... Who are you, Lena Dunham.

Thanks alot! now I have to go bleach my brain!?!

Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 03:46 PM (NPofj)

695 I am done with the so-called conservatives that have been selling us down the river! I will vote to elect NO professional politicians. It's Trump or done, get a clue!

Posted by: Wayne Ville at February 26, 2016 03:39 PM (hx6+b)
______

Yeah, how terrible: people with actual records that can be examined to see if they lived up to their promises. I can see why something like that would horrify Trump supporters.

But hey: enjoy the "cage fight" for national healthcare!

Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 26, 2016 03:46 PM (5aY0/)

696 "Well, you convinced me."

Good.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 03:47 PM (tLM9s)

697 I think by mid March we will be issuing calls to "meet me behind the gym after school" to each other.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - See The Outrage Outlet's specials in the weekly Firing Squad Circular! at February 26, 2016 03:50 PM (hLRSq)

698 695 I am done with the so-called conservatives that have been selling us down the river! I will vote to elect NO professional politicians. It's Trump or done, get a clue!

Posted by: Wayne Ville at February 26, 2016 03:39 PM (hx6+b)

__________

Then it's done.

Because Trump is running a scam on vulnerable people too stupid to understand what he's doing.

You wanted to burn it down. So now we are joining you.

Burn it down.

Cruz/Marco Marco/Cruz
or done.

Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 03:50 PM (VoCyE)

699 "He spelled choker C-H-O-K-E-R, chocker. I guess he meant choker..."

Yeah, he must have meant choker since that what c-h-o-k-e-r spells, Estupido!...Potato- P-O-T-A-T-O-E!

Posted by: Dan Quayle's spell checker at February 26, 2016 03:51 PM (17Qy1)

700 He started fine and ended strong, but the middle 5 minutes in, when he got all Mean Girls about it...acting like the popular girl in high school that brings up a lesser classmate's social media and then laughs and mocks it...it didn't look good on him. Rubio is better than that. Or should be, at least.

Posted by: TickledPink at February 26, 2016 03:59 PM (F5hTl)

701 You conveniently left out that he FUCKED UP REPEATEDLY.

Just like people are leaving out that the GOPe is FUCKING UP REPEATEDLY.

Sorry, I was away.

I didn't mention that because I'm not arguing--and few people are who aren't in elected office.

I agree on both counts.

Posted by: AD at February 26, 2016 04:02 PM (Pqhmy)

702 Not really much of a fan of Kitty Softpaws but that was pretty good. Didn't botch any more lines than Donald when he's rolling, so I'll cut him some slack for that. Still a RiNO, but at least it's nice to see someone trying to smack the empty suit around a bit.

Oh, and hey, the folks who are gloating over Cruz now likely to have trouble keeping his Senate seat after this? Yeah, that's some genius strategy there - let's dump an actual fighting conservative, one of the few in the world's most deliberately arrogant body, and replace him with... Wendy Davis.

Absolute brilliance, that. Truly.

Sheesh - Cankles or SMOD. Hard to know which is worse. Misery will come either way. Tough call, honestly.

Posted by: DocJ at February 26, 2016 04:06 PM (NYS7S)

703 Mi nalga por el Donald.

Posted by: Chris at February 26, 2016 04:10 PM (IJxUH)

704 >>>Ace,

I'm getting mixed vibes from your comments in the thread.

Are you now aboard the Mario Express?

...

no, but i am now so far off the Trump Train I no longer object to Rubio. Trump just seems to me to have so many glaring flaws that I can't keep pure on immigration any longer.

as I continue to say, Cruz is the best of all worlds: A true blue conservative to satisfy the rightists, an implacable opponent of amnesty and legalization to satisfy the populists.

I think the party is going to have big problems if they do not satisfy both wings simultaneously; Rubio is a victory of the anti-populists over the populists, which will alienate the populists, and Trump is a victory of the liberals over the conservatives, which will alienate the conservatives.

People say Cruz is personally unappealing. Conceded. However, the biggest flaw in a candidate is completely alienating an important wing of the party. both rubio and trump do that.

All that said, Trump was really exposed not just as a liberal, but a real ignoramus, and Hillary now has the playbook as to how to expose him. Just keep asking him questions; he just doesn't have the answers to them.

I used to think Trump would either be a disastrous candidate, or a strong one. wasn't sure which. I'm still not entirely sure, but it strikes me now that he's much more likely to be disastrous, and made a laughingstock when he tries this "get rid of the lines" crap in a ninety minute debate with hillary clinton with only TWO people on the stage (as drew pointed out), and thereby forced to speak for 45 minutes instead the 13-15 minutes he's previously gotten away with at big group debates.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 04:22 PM (dciA+)

705 I cannot vote Trump. Ever. Period.
I agree with Rubio, in that Trump is a Con artist.

I prefer Cruz for our Primary. I do not believe in voting for some one because of current poll standings. Will vote in the general election for any of the others if they win, except Trump. It has become a matter of Principle.

Possible Tax fraud, womanizing, cult of personality, lack of actual knowledge, lack of leadership skills (power and leadership are two different things), lack of humility, apparent lack of principles of his own beyond "Me me me".

He is the worst parts of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, and may actually be closer to them politically. His endorsement of Planned Parenthood and trade deals and comments on Healthcare show that. His implied belief in an over powering executive President anti-thetical to conservatism. His one issue is Building a Wall ( he should trademark that). But I think that is all bluster. He cannot do it. He cannot force Mexico to do anything, and he will have a hard time with Congress who will have their own elections to deal with. So he can guarantee nothing.

He is a Con artist. I know none of this will convince the die-hard Trump-ers. Sadly, he really could be the guy from the dead zone, and they would vote for him anyway. And then drink more koolaid.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 04:24 PM (Gl74b)

706 When Trump boasted that illegal immigration would have never come up this election season if it weren't for him, Cruz countered: I have been talking about illegal immigration for years and even fighting my own party on it, where were you Donald? You were firing Dennis Rodman on Celebrity Apprentice.
Posted by: Cheri at February 26, 2016 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

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Which is a complete and udder lie from Mr. Legalization.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 26, 2016 04:26 PM (LXJ1e)

707 Cruz is really just a two-bit lawyer. He loses in ALL demographics save "very conservative".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 26, 2016 04:28 PM (LXJ1e)

708 @704

It's hard to quantify conservative anymore.

The hardest right people I know are fully behind Trump. Fully.

These are folks that criticize Obummer about everything, care about illegal immigration, care DEEPLY about abortion, care DEEPLY about traditional marriage. And, they are behind Trump all the way.

Posted by: TickledPink at February 26, 2016 04:29 PM (F5hTl)

709 no, but i am now so far off the Trump Train I no longer object to Rubio. Trump just seems to me to have so many glaring flaws that I can't keep pure on immigration any longer.

as I continue to say, Cruz is the best of all worlds: A true blue conservative to satisfy the rightists, an implacable opponent of amnesty and legalization to satisfy the populists.

I think the party is going to have big problems if they do not satisfy both wings simultaneously; Rubio is a victory of the anti-populists over the populists, which will alienate the populists, and Trump is a victory of the liberals over the conservatives, which will alienate the conservatives.

People say Cruz is personally unappealing. Conceded. However, the biggest flaw in a candidate is completely alienating an important wing of the party. both rubio and trump do that.

All that said, Trump was really exposed not just as a liberal, but a real ignoramus, and Hillary now has the playbook as to how to expose him. Just keep asking him questions; he just doesn't have the answers to them.

I used to think Trump would either be a disastrous candidate, or a strong one. wasn't sure which. I'm still not entirely sure, but it strikes me now that he's much more likely to be disastrous, and made a laughingstock when he tries this "get rid of the lines" crap in a ninety minute debate with hillary clinton with only TWO people on the stage (as drew pointed out), and thereby forced to speak for 45 minutes instead the 13-15 minutes he's previously gotten away with at big group debates.

Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 04:22 PM (dciA+)

Cruz is Mr. Legalization. He's been working on that since effin 1999 and never wavered on that until Rubio called him on it in Dec 2015. But you keep on believing he's all against legalization.

Cruz is third in ALL DEMOGRAPHICS, where do you get off saying he has appeal to all the wings of the party, when he does not? It is wishcasting.

After Super Tuesday you'll find grudging new respect for Rubio as Cruz gets crushed. And then you'll lose all credibility.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 26, 2016 04:36 PM (LXJ1e)

710 Two bit lawyers do not argue and win before SCOTUS.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 04:42 PM (Gl74b)

711 "no, but i am now so far off the Trump Train I no longer object to Rubio. Trump just seems to me to have so many glaring flaws that I can't keep pure on immigration any longer."

And there you have it. Ace would pick Rubio over Trump. Cruz supporters would rather have a politician, bought and owned. I guess they find comfort in their chains.

We won't have a country left. Ineligibles feel comfortable running right now. How pathetic is that?

If you think the shit sandwiches we've been forced to eat for the past 24 years - I include the Bush and Clinton years - are bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Eh. Rubio and Cruz are in no danger of winning anyway.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 04:46 PM (tLM9s)

712 Cruz is third in ALL DEMOGRAPHICS

_

That is neither a reason to vote for or against someone.

None of them represent my exact views. But the best fit is Cruz. And he gets my vote.

All you are arguing is Trumps one issue.. And I am not sure he is not all bluster on that.

Define "Legalization". It's not the same as amnesty. However it is not full deportation either, which I think will be impossible. There has to be something in the middle.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 04:47 PM (Gl74b)

713 Ace...Trump is going crush Rubio now...you obviously missed Trump's speech today:

1. Trump's water bottle bit of Rubio. "Its Rubio!" then starts flinging the water around the room.

2. That Cruz is smarter than Rubio because because his lies are better and more reasonable than Rubio

3. Romney is a penguin

Trump is still bashing Cruz, but his guns are now aimed fully at Rubio...so I guess that should make you happy.

Posted by: William Eaton at February 26, 2016 04:50 PM (q52Ma)

714
And there you have it. Ace would pick Rubio over Trump.

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I think a lot of us are saying that, if those are the only two choices. But they are not.

Cruz, Rubio, Carson, Kasich...if any of these are the nominee, they have my vote. Not Trump.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 04:55 PM (Gl74b)

715 "Hillary now has the playbook as to how to expose him. Just keep asking him questions; he just doesn't have the answers to them."

You think Hillary is not an ignoramus?

She just confused the Bill of Rights with preamble of the Declaration of Independence on the Steve Harvey Show this week - Article in DC Whispers

Think about that, she's a lawyer, former first lady, former Secretary of State. She lived in the damn White House and she's that ignorant.

She need someone to tell her how email works and needs three people to get her some ice tea.

Hillary has so much junk in her closet, Trump will have a hard time getting to all of it and all of it is bad. She is toast and will never, ever be president.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 04:56 PM (tLM9s)

716 "I think a lot of us are saying that, if those are the only two choices. But they are not."

Ha! See my point is proven from up thread.

Cruz supporters - amnesty whores all.

Told you few dupes out there.

They will pick the Gang of 8 guy over Trump.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 05:00 PM (tLM9s)

717 Well, you are in the minority then, bourbon - Zombie nailed it - I will vote for Trump no matter what,, and I never even liked the guy! I don't care - game over.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue at February 26, 2016 05:08 PM (ZXK8H)

718 I've got news for all you that think Marco is so cute in his attacks here...

Guess what?

All those unemployed American (with the real not fake unemployment rate) out there don't care about Rubio's little jokes and Cruz's wild attacks on Trump.

All those workers training their foreign replacements don't care about Rubio's little jokes and Cruz's wild attacks on Trump.

All those Carrier and Ford employees that just lost their jobs don't care about Rubio's little jokes and Cruz's wild attacks on Trump.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 05:09 PM (tLM9s)

719 Marco Rubio getting his make up put on...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I can see why all the "Beta Men" love Rubio. He has more in common with Merkel then just their immigration views.

Posted by: William Eaton at February 26, 2016 05:09 PM (q52Ma)

720 716

Um no. Not for Amnesty, and neither is Cruz.

But if it comes down to Rubio vs. Trump, I go with Rubio because of other issues. See my post 705.

You can use vile language, and claim we are for Amnesty all you like. Rubio, if President, cannot push through Amnesty on his own with Congress. So there is a stop gap.

Is that your only reason for supporting Trump? A Wall and magical mass deportation?

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:10 PM (Gl74b)

721 Is it just me or has "the establishment" become a catch all term for anyone that doesn't worship the Con-man?

Posted by: Malachi45 at February 26, 2016 05:17 PM (Y9zAG)

722 "You can use vile language, and claim we are for Amnesty all you like. Rubio, if President, cannot push through Amnesty on his own with Congress. So there is a stop gap."

Whore - is vile language here? Haha.

"Rubio, if President, cannot push through Amnesty on his own with Congress."

Bwhaaaaa. Stop, yer killing me here.

Nope, you've shown your hand. Just proving my point to the lurkers out there. That's all.

Rubio has a better chance of winning a Dondi look-a-like contest at a foam party than winning the nomination and presidency.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 05:18 PM (tLM9s)

723 @720

Paul Ryan will not be a stop gap. Rubio will do what Merkel is doing to Germany. Rubio voted against Rand Paul's bill to limit immigration from certain Middle Eastern countries. In other words Rand Paul is stronger on immigration from Jihadist producing countries than Rubio is.

Rubio and Ryan agree 100% on this. They believe in open borders and free movement of labor, including mass immigration from Muslim countries. There is no stop gap anymore...except that Ryan won't pass anything until Obama is gone. Trump is messing that plan up.

A vote for Rubio is a vote for Merkel.

Posted by: William Eaton at February 26, 2016 05:19 PM (q52Ma)

724 Ah yes, if you cannot win them over, just insult them... Very classy.

I think it's funny that you think a) people should give up on their preferred candidate because of polls and b) that they should automatically. Then choose your favored candidate.

If, God help us, Trump gets elected, and that wall does not get built ( because it won't) and 11 million-ish people are not magically deported,(cuz they won't be) what will you do? You will vote for a Con artist over one issue that he cannot possibly deliver on. Ever.

Defend the borders yes, but defend them at a price that Trump may well destroy us from within, Never.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:23 PM (Gl74b)

725 If you're a Trump supporter, I wouldn't watch this. He definitely does
some damage. It's just interesting to me that he's now running Trump's
entire playbook against Trump, and with a lot of natural ability at it.

Why? I want the GOP to learn something. That will be the greatest thing Trump has done for us. He's taught Conservatives they shouldn't fear the media, they should fear us. Fear is the very bestest thing to have in a politician, even better than honesty, since an honest politician might stick to his principles regardless of what his constituents want. A fearful one will do whatever we wish, even if he's a lying, betraying piece of shit like Rubio.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 05:25 PM (nCMzD)

726 Shown my hand?

I have been clear about my support for Cruz from the first time I posted here. Nothing was hidden.

Cruz is not for Amnesty..

But I am not, and never was a one issue voter, either.

The only thing you are showing others is that you are stuck on that issue.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:28 PM (Gl74b)

727 One more thing: You cannot be a "hawk" and a "patriot" wanting to protect America IF you vote for a man who actually thinks that you can fight big wars in the Islamic world, and at the same time bring in lots of Muslims from the Islamic world via immigration.

That is what Rubio wants to do. It would be like mass importing Japanese and Germans into the U.S. leading up and during World War II. It would be like mass importing lots of Communists into the country during the Cold War.

So please don't tell me how special Rubio is. Put it bluntly if Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio get their way on immigration and foreign policy the United States as a single nation will not exist by 2030.

Posted by: William Eaton at February 26, 2016 05:29 PM (q52Ma)

728 If, God help us, Trump gets elected, and that wall
does not get built ( because it won't) and 11 million-ish people are not
magically deported,(cuz they won't be) what will you do? You will vote
for a Con artist over one issue that he cannot possibly deliver on.
Ever.

Defend the borders yes, but defend them at a price that Trump may well destroy us from within, Never.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:23 PM (Gl74b)

There's another Republican't.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 05:30 PM (nCMzD)

729 Posted by: William Eaton at February 26, 2016 05:29 PM (q52Ma)

The current planks of the GOP are:

outsourcing your job.
importing cheap labor
endless war that produces nothing

And they wonder where the hell Trump came from.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 05:32 PM (nCMzD)

730 Behaviorwise, Rubio has now thrown himself down into the gutter with Trump.

Posted by: Nevadagal at February 26, 2016 05:33 PM (u+6JA)

731 Seems like at least Rubio's campaign can pivot, even
if it means pivoting right into the mud with Trump. I don't think Cruz
will be as willing to go there, at least he's said he won't.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 03:18 PM (pUDQf)

Rubio didn't pivot he was outplayed. While Rubio's most excellent campaign team cooked up a feel-good debate ploy Trump was lining Christie up to capture the news cycle post- debate and New Jersey's delegates...several strategic moves ahead of Rubio.

Which reminds me of an old joke:

There was a man and his dog playing chess on a park bench. Soon, there was a crowd around the two. One woman proclaimed, "That dog is so smart! How did you teach him to play chess?" The man answered, "He's not that smart...he's losing 3 games to 1."

Shits & giggles aside, do you really want Rubio sitting across the table from Putin?

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at February 26, 2016 05:34 PM (9HNfr)

732 ." Fear is the very bestest thing to have in a politician, even better than honesty, since an honest politician might stick to his principles "

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No. Never. This is wrong. If your politician shares your principles, then you never have to worry.

No principles or integrity in your elected officials is okay to you?

"May your chains set lightly on you". S. Adams.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:37 PM (Gl74b)

733 "Trump gets elected, and that wall does not get built ( because it won't) and 11 million-ish people are not magically deported,(cuz they won't be) what will you do?"

Why however could that be possible? St. Ted Cruz has said he will build the wall and deport 'em on sight. Are you saying St. Cruz is lying and a con man too?

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 05:38 PM (tLM9s)

734 There's another Republican't

I---

I left the Party a while ago. Went L for a while, and now consider myself a small r republican.

But if you really think that Trump gas shed his liberal clothing, you deserve what you will get if he is elected with your help.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:41 PM (Gl74b)

735
But if you really think that Trump gas shed his liberal clothing, you deserve what you will get if he is elected with your help.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:41 PM (Gl74b)

More phantom candidate syndrome. I won't regret anything since there isn't an alternative. I'm going to regret jumping from the frying pan into the fire? That seems a distinction without a difference.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 05:50 PM (nCMzD)

736 No. Never. This is wrong. If your politician shares your principles, then you never have to worry.

No principles or integrity in your elected officials is okay to you?

"May your chains set lightly on you". S. Adams.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 05:37 PM (Gl74b)

George Bush was the perfect example of a retard with principles. Amnesty. His disaster in the ME. He couldn't be turned, and he had no commonsense. That's the worst possible outcome.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 05:53 PM (nCMzD)

737 Wow. I'm sorry but when the kid is shrill and shrieking it is hard to picture him as a leader.

I think he needs a blow pop and a pat on the head on the way out the door.

Posted by: Drider at February 26, 2016 05:54 PM (6Xbsz)

738 Cruz supporter here, and no I will not vote for Trump. Trump's positions on immigration, as he expressed last night, mean he is more for amnesty than even Rubio is. He's all over the map on every issue.

Worse than that, Trump cheats people, and I'm not OK with that. I won't support him. Call me whatever you like, but don't call me someone who would vote Trump in the general election.

Trump fans who aren't just trolls: please consider that Trump is conning you. Clear your head and look over his record. Do it in good faith and then make your mind yourself. The GOP has betrayed you, but that doesn't mean Trump won't too.

Posted by: Dustin at February 26, 2016 05:59 PM (a7sQX)

739 Cruz said he would hire Trump to build a wall. Seems a fair compromise...

Bush had some principles but no common sense. Agreed.

But he was still a better president than Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. And much better than Gore or Kerry would have been

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 06:03 PM (Gl74b)

740 Trump fans who aren't just trolls: please consider
that Trump is conning you. Clear your head and look over his record.
Do it in good faith and then make your mind yourself. The GOP has
betrayed you, but that doesn't mean Trump won't too.

Posted by: Dustin at February 26, 2016 05:59 PM (a7sQX)

This is the problem with those who don't support Trump. You don't realize where you are in the timeline of collapse. You think that business as usual can get the job done. You think there is some phantom out there that is better. It's like a lost limb you can feel it, so it has to be there right? You have phantom candidate syndrome.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 06:07 PM (nCMzD)

741 Cruz is a phantom candidate?

He is not establishment. No sitting official has endorsed him, as Trump points out. That's a good thing in my eyes. I think they fear Cruz more than. Trump.

And Chris "hugs" Chritie just endorsed Trump? That's another reason to Not Vote Trump.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 06:08 PM (Gl74b)

742 "Cruz said he would hire Trump to build a wall. Seems a fair compromise... "

No, no, no. You said the wall wasn't going to get built.

See:

"Trump gets elected, and that wall does not get built ( because it won't) and 11 million-ish people are not magically deported,(cuz they won't be) what will you do?"

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 26, 2016 06:14 PM (tLM9s)

743 I think we are very far along the line to collapse.

But the solution of electing one guy because he will (supposedly) seal the borders and try to chuck people out, while we continue to rot from within is not going to Save the Republic.

But I do not think that Saving the Republic is Trump's goal. His goal is about himself. Period. And there is nothing to ensure that his goals for himself will help us, our countrymen, or our country.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 06:14 PM (Gl74b)

744 741
Cruz is a phantom candidate?

He is not establishment. No sitting official has endorsed him, as
Trump points out. That's a good thing in my eyes. I think they fear Cruz
more than. Trump.

And Chris "hugs" Chritie just endorsed Trump? That's another reason to Not Vote Trump.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 06:08 PM (Gl74b)

Cruz needs to put on weight. The whole GOP is attempting to hide behind him this election. See everything is okay, because we have one guy, ONE GUY, that can pass as conservative. He might do a Rubio as soon as he wins, but best not to think of that.

*I'll vote for Cruz if he wins the nomination, but he's the only other candidate I'll say that about.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 06:14 PM (nCMzD)

745 Hopefully, Trump can turn the con artist bit around on Rubio on amnesty. As you noted in the podcast, Rubio has to be very scripted on amnesty so as to not "lie" but to also give listeners a false impression of his real position. That takes very carefully crafted language.

Posted by: LayinLumber at February 26, 2016 06:14 PM (LeqKW)

746 @742. Both answers were sarcasm. Mi bad for not adding /sarc.

The difference is, I really don't think Trump has any intention of putting one brick on top of another unless he personally profits from it.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 06:17 PM (Gl74b)

747 "Trump fans who aren't just trolls: please consider
that Trump is conning you. Clear your head and look over his record.
Do it in good faith and then make your mind yourself. The GOP has
betrayed you, but that doesn't mean Trump won't too.

Posted by: Dustin at February 26, 2016 05:59 PM (a7sQX) "

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Not a chance in the world. Trump will be the next POTUS. I already been through the ringer with Rubio being a Floridian. I won't vote for him no matter what............Ever for any position.

Cruz simply does not stand a chance of wining the election IMHO, although he is the only other person that I'll vote for.

Dustin, Trump is a leader of men, cannot be parsed, it's a simple fact. You touted Rubio's "con man" bit (I assume without the shrill tone that he uses) and how the GOP screwed us and Trump will too.
You must think about it at this point. Trump has not screwed you or me over on anything, zip,zilch,nada.
The GOPe and Rubio on the other hand continues right up to yesterday via plotting to use the brokered convention to chose a POTUS. Stealing an election is about as bad as it can get. I would hope that you agree.

Rubio has no path to the WH and neither does Cruz to be honest. Your choice will be a leader of men or a cackling communist. It simply boils down to that and you don't have to say it. I get it. Some would much rather have the cackling communist by way of not voting. One has to do what he has to do.

Posted by: Drider at February 26, 2016 06:18 PM (6Xbsz)

748 I can see McConnel withholding an endorsement of Cruz, even in the general election. I can see McCain endorsing Hilary against Cruz.

They hate this guy, because he and Mike Lee and Ben Sasse and a few others will not kowtow to them. They Rock the D.C. boat, and stand on principle against them.

That is what I want.

Trump, like Clinton, will do whatever he thinks is popular.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 06:21 PM (Gl74b)

749 a cackling communist

Posted by: Drider at February 26, 2016 06:18 PM (6Xbsz)

Hilliary could still win the nomination you know.

Posted by: DFCtomm at February 26, 2016 06:24 PM (nCMzD)

750 "The current planks of the GOP are:

outsourcing your job.
importing cheap labor
endless war that produces nothing

And they wonder where the hell Trump came from. "

EXACTLY - that plank does not represent me. Besides border security (and keeping the muslims out) my only interest is in JOBS and the overall economy. Not the stock market, but jobs. I want products to be made here in THIS country, by Americans.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue at February 26, 2016 06:26 PM (ZXK8H)

751 Hilliary could still win the nomination you know.

She already stole the election from the socialist. It leaves her in perfect position for the GOPe to hand it off to her when anyone but The Rube wins or steals the election.

If the cackling communist hadn't of finagled the election from the nutty socialist then that would have created a huge problem for the GOPe.

Posted by: Drider at February 26, 2016 06:27 PM (6Xbsz)

752 Trump is a leader of men, cannot be parsed,

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We will have to agree to disagree.

Having power, due to money, is not the same as leadership. And due to his past in the business world, we have no examples of him to show the courage that is required of true leadership.

"Leader of Men", to me, has entirely different meaning, and very very few have earned that kind of title. Trump is not one.

Posted by: sippin_bourbon at February 26, 2016 06:28 PM (Gl74b)

753 Your simply wrong sippin. Impossible to do what Trump has done without stellar leadership but no need to dwell on it.

Posted by: Drider at February 26, 2016 06:30 PM (6Xbsz)

754 I think ace is having a Charles Johnson moment. I don't remember ace being this snarky, but I tend to skip his long-winded posts.

Posted by: gfy at February 26, 2016 08:43 PM (jOxVV)

755 >>>499 lol

Trump in Fort Worth: Rubio has bad temperament. Not presidential material. Once a choker, always a choker. Epic meltdowns.
Posted by: rebel flounder at February 26, 2016 02:38 PM (3dOE/)

LOL

Posted by: m at February 27, 2016 02:42 AM (S/1cF)

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