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Debate Thread Two
Because there's a lot of comments.
Good damn debate. Can't say a bad word about the moderators. Wish Cruz would have pointed out that Mario still won't answer whether he supports legalization. Because that's Mario's tactic -- always has been. Tells one thing to Spanish audiences, avoids talking about it for Republican audiences. It's not that he flat-out lies or contradicts himself -- though he does that occasionally. It's just that he absolutely will not give you a straight answer unless you put him into the corner and stake one of his feet to the ground. Now, I have to add: What Mario just did to the Donald is illegal in 28 states. I have to give it to the Robot: When Robots go berserk, they can do a tremendous amount of damage, and Rubio the Robot just went into Terminator mode. He had people laughing at Trump. That's a tough thing. You can absorb a criticism, but you can't easily absorb being made a figure of amusement. Especially someone like Trump, who's entire strategy is to project invincibility and inevitability to disguise the fact he really has no idea what he's talking about. Puncture that, and you've mortally wounded him. Of course, it's pretty obvious now that Cruz and Rubio agreed beforehand to double-team Trump. They have him in the Malachi Crunch, and Trump is no Fonzie. He's trying to escape the crunch, but he's getting smashed to hell. The Champ had a glass jaw all along. The key, it turns out, was that you just couldn't have one guy punching at it. Trump's quick-answer-bluster was enough of a defense against one punch. But not against two. Further Thoughts: Oh boy trump is doing terribly, and I didn't want to see him do terribly. I kinda like Trump, in a weird way. But he is getting destroyed, and he just wasn't prepared for it. (Being unprepared is kind of His Thing.) It's embarrassing. This is a gamechanger. The whole race is now reset. Update: Drew convinced me in the podcast I was way overstating things with the claims that the "race is reset." Eh, at the moment, it seemed like a big deal. I still think it's a big deal, but Trump's leads in 10 of the 11 Super Tuesday states it's hard to imagine him losing anywhere. My dream scenario is this: Trump finally starts going after Rubio, on immigration and amnesty, badly hurts Rubio (as Cruz was badly hurt the last couple of weeks), but Trump himself is also hurt by this performance, and My Man Ted sneaks up in the polls.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at February 25, 2016 09:58 PM (NqQAS)
Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2016 09:58 PM (cs3mp)
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Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2016 09:59 PM (cs3mp)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 09:59 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (As+1M)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: CozMark at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (R5HRU)
yes.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: CNN at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: Mega at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (JwLCI)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (R5HRU)
That's rhetorical, right?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (GEICT)
Bwb...
Posted by: Barney Frank at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (7O3sA)
Puncture that, and you've mortally wounded him.
I just wonder if its going to make people realize that he just copied Christie and it reminds people of him being a repeating robot.
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Bandersnatch's Liver at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Nora the wise at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (Trq86)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (R5HRU)
But he's great, fantastic, & yuuge
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: bossybarb at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (nPbaV)
Does Trump ever get super specific on policy? Or is it just bluster, one liners and zinges?
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:00 PM (R5HRU)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It's called Trumpscat. By me. Trying to make it a thing.
Posted by: CozMark at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: Malfunctioning Mario Rubio at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Pick your politician at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (iweze)
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (qCMvj)
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I don't agree, I think this was already baked into the cake because The Donald is an entertainer, so the idea of people laughing at him is nothing new.
It's the fact that he can overcome these seemingly mortal wounds that make him out to be a buffoon that makes him invincible.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: Johnoh at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (aR/kH)
Cruz and Dondi obviously decided to coordinate and go after Trump on tax returns and Trump University
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (FkBIv)
Really? Maybe it's because I've tuned out politics but everytime I hear him all I hear is generalities.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (pUDQf)
so, you got any new material ????
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Steff McKee at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (w+mZJ)
Are we assuming that being a policy wonk is what wins elections?
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (8qoUN)
He gets very specific. Very, really, really very specific. You are gonna be amazed at his specificity. He'll be specific and he'll make America great again!
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (8olbK)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Crew of Apollo 13 at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (voOPb)
he is getting destroyed, it's embarrassing.
this is a gamechanger.
the whole race is now reset.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (TJBCh)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Donald Trump at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (KCxzN)
The buzzer is annoying. They're ignoring it. You'd be better just
to give each candidate a total amount of time and let them use it
however they want. After it's gone, they get thirty seconds to respond
and then their mics cut off.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: bossybarb at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (nPbaV)
Not because I am a Trump supporter. But, it is just a silly question.
There is not a single person in the world that could mathematically articulate a way to break even in the financial mess our country is in. I think we just have to boost the economy, cut the fat, then cross our fingers and hope its enough.
Posted by: TickledPink at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (F5hTl)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:02 PM (8CdUx)
I'm yuugge. What can I say? I've got a great plan. It's dynamic and biggly.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (pUDQf)
Who's watching. All the bums at the Bus Station are happy, I guess.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: CNN at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: DONALD MOFO TRUMP at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (uZNvH)
he is getting destroyed, it's embarrassing.
this is a gamechanger.
the whole race is now reset.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (dciA+)
oh honey from your mouth to Gods ear
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (zOTsN)
He gets very specific. Very, really, really very specific. You are
gonna be amazed at his specificity. He'll be specific and he'll make
America great again!
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (eRNg7)<<<
And hen I get specific you'll be like "oh, please Mr. Trump, I can't take all the specificity, please start being less specific again."
Posted by: D. Trump at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (H9MG5)
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I predict Trump sees a 5 point bounce by the end of the week.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (qHgBB)
this is a gamechanger.
the whole race is now reset.
So he gains ten points in the polls?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM (FkBIv)
"Nothing so easy, if you have but the inclination," said Elizabeth. "We can all plague and punish one another. Tease him-laugh at him."
It's how you hurt Mr. Darcy, it's how you hurt Trump.
Posted by: Flyguy at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (dpJ62)
Posted by: Bandersnatch's Liver at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (1xUj/)
I'm voting for Cruz no matter what, but after Nevada I just don't see how the Trump train gets derailed.
Trust me, I really want to be wrong. I think President Trump is a terrible idea, but ... does it matter, or is it too late?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (kBIIG)
Posted by: steevy at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (B48dK)
I figured our side wouldn't be slaves to personality.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (/ciMI)
His shit eating grin made him look like he was gonna scream: "Ma! Look at me! I finally made the bully scared of me!" And the girl in the audience who kept shrieking only made him look worse.
Trump maintained his usual stern or theatrically annoyed face the entire time.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (21hN3)
Posted by: KillianThyme at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (n2r4H)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (1uwuc)
They are so great, this is going to be yuge!
Posted by: Donald Trump's Rat Hat at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: chi at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (VMffP)
Posted by: @votermom at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Mr Pink at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (hXnfg)
That whole comment is best read in the 'It's over, man.' Red-Hat Guy voice.
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (R5HRU)
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Well I personally voted for Romney so I think that proves I'm not a slave to personality.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (qHgBB)
Not trying to be an ass.... just sayin'... it all makes perfect sense if you think about it. We're down the rabbit hole. Everything will be ok as long as we relax and keep our arms at our sides.
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (e7T6D)
What about free chicken?
Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (Dwehj)
you put him into the corner and stake one of his feet to the ground.
Posted by Ace
Did someone mention "steak"?
Posted by: Trump Steak! at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (7O3sA)
He cannot handle it. Can't his fans see what an empty suit he is? How thin skinned?
His verbal tapdance is getting old. Same old steps. Great great great. Deals deals deals.
It's such bullshit.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (U6f54)
that he just copied Christie and it reminds people of him being a
repeating robot.
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:01 PM (zt+N6)
That did occur to me... that and he was cheesing for whatever girl was squealing in the audience.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Willy at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (ersJc)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (1uwuc)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (8olbK)
Posted by: Dan G at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (lpiWq)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (zOTsN)
All bluster and no punch.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (U6f54)
His groupies find that attractive, though.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (cDs+4)
90 I'm amused that people think anything will sway Trump supporters at this point. They're dug in good and deep, and nothing's going to dislodge them.
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (/ciMI)
Perhaps so.
What about those who support other candidates?
Are they the same?
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (MQEz6)
You're kidding right?
...
not at all. Trump is having a worse night than Rubio did two weeks ago.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:04 PM
Lotta people in Texas.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (8CdUx)
*************
Are you kidding? He SLEEPS with that face too!
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: CozMark at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (mhkbv)
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (7FH+T)
Clapping seals in audience bore me. Irritate me. Make them stop.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:05 PM (1uwuc)
Sadly, they may be the fans he's proud of: "uneducated."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (FsuaD)
It's not the fall that kills you, it's the abrupt stop
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:06 PM (qHgBB)
Hahaha. That was a really rough year for candidates huh? I voted for him too.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (zOTsN)
Given a one on one debate, Cruz would leave Trump a blabbring, incoherent mess on the witless stand.
Oh wait. He already is.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (McRlu)
Posted by: Cornfed at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (mkO+I)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (8olbK)
It took you until now?
Posted by: AD at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (QWY55)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (1uwuc)
He gave them bandaides and ticket to six flags.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Walter Freeman
Irritable Bowel Syndrome. My shits are yuuuuge.
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (8PbKi)
What? It's legal now?
Posted by: Michael Vick at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (12kBq)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (pUDQf)
what?
No i didn't.
what are you talking about? Are you just assuming I must be That Guy who always calls things in my own rooting interest?
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (dciA+)
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We really are.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (hCdMd)
I predict: Trump will amazingly come out of this debate stronger... and he'll actually beat Cruz... in Texas.
Not
trying to be an ass.... just sayin'... it all makes perfect sense if
you think about it. We're down the rabbit hole. Everything will be ok as
long as we relax and keep our arms at our sides.
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (e7T6D)
If he does we truly are living out idiocracy... that man is a buffoon.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (NPofj)
Yeah the stupid audience applause oversold the exchange and diminished the exchange.
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Cake at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Skeezix at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (WnCSK)
Let me mark that down ... here, past the 12,763rd time someone said that ...
Or maybe you meant that the whole race is now overcharged?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (1uwuc)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (voOPb)
To say that there is not good guys and bad guys?
Come on.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (iHjB5)
and then their mics cut off.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:03 PM (fC9RO)
Always seemed fair to me to use the live mic with a hard off switch when your time is up. Equal time for all!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (wYnyS)
Dude, I wish you we right on the gamechanger/ reset thing. I really do. This entire process has been a joke and an embarrassment.
Unfortunately I don't anticipate anything changing. As he said himself, Trump could shoot someone and gain 10 pts.
People are unbelievably stupid. They like Trump for the same reason they like reality TV and used to like Jerry Springer.
This country elected Obama twice. If he could run again, I guarantee he'd win again because the vast majority of people are imbeciles and society is getting dumber by the day.
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (sdi6R)
***
A televised dogfight
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
...
yeah right? When did politics get so AWESOME?
Great spectacle.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (dciA+)
*************
Are you kidding? He SLEEPS with that face too!
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (qHgBB)
Then who does his wife sleep with?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:08 PM (zOTsN)
His gorgeous-ass daughter converted.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: D. Trump at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (H9MG5)
I'm not sure Trump got hurt. He has a sense of humor, but also he's an entertainer. Yes, he has a temper, but no one has really poked the bear yet tonight.
He'll come out and say of course they are attacking him, he is the winner, they are the losers, and they lie. He keeps getting away with that.
I'm just happy Cruz gets to finally speak out about so many topics.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: IrishEi at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Chris Vaughn at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (Bcqod)
Posted by: Donald Trump's Rat Hat at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: the littl shyning man at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (U6f54)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (dciA+)
You said during the So Carolina debate that trump was imploding, his performance a disaster, etc. It was the end of Trump, etc
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (8CdUx)
not at all. Trump is having a worse night than Rubio did two weeks ago.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:07 PM (dciA+)
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I'll be surprised if Trump doesn't turn it into a post-Megyn thing where he talks about the two Cubans ganging up on poor ole American him
Just sayin.
Posted by: @votermom at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (cbfNE)
but that is't the point of Why He is There.
i would like to think cruz will make it, but if they are capable of running over Trump, Cruz will have all the nasty assholes right and left and media guns at His throat. so rubio wins.
and hillary wins the finale.
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (L1+sh)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: CozMark at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (Z56vq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (FsuaD)
Great spectacle.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (dciA+)
I stand by my wish for the primary to be replaced by gladiatorial combat.
Or, at the very least, debate-boxing.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (fC9RO)
These debates are all about Trump standing against the usual politicians and media punks. It's gonna harden his supporters while everyone keeps dividing their support between the other candidates.
I predict tonight is gonna bump Kasich at the expense of Rubio and Cruz especially amongst late deciders who'd recently been going Rubio.
*shrugs*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (21hN3)
Come on.
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM
yeah, that's my line
Posted by: Dave Mason at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (K/p7v)
Sometimes you gotta go with quantity over quality!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at February 25, 2016 10:11 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (qCMvj)
And then..."He'll be standing trial. Do we want to take a chance?"
Go after Trump on policy, by all means....but don't stump to the lowest common denominator.
Posted by: TickledPink at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (F5hTl)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (KCxzN)
This is a gamechanger.
The whole race is now reset.
So far, I'd say Trump is doing 2nd behind Rubio, with Cruz bringing up third.
Trump doesn't have to make sense.
Trump doesn't have to avoid batant lies.
Trump just has to be belegerent and dominant.
Why do you think "strong-men" tend to become dictoators in Latin America, Africa, and Europe before that?
Posted by: The Belegerent Hat at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (8olbK)
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (L1+sh)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 25, 2016 10:12 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (i6S4a)
2. After he won South Carolina, despite the SC debate and him standing by the Bush/9/11/Iraq comments, I wouldn't predict any result from this until a poll comes out stating it.
Posted by: AD at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (QWY55)
What about those who support other candidates?
Are they the same?
Posted by: eman
I don't think so. I'm a Cruz supporter, but if it were to come to light that Cruz bragged about banging married chicks (while himself married), or showed himself to be ignorant of basic economic or geopolitical facts, or started contradicting himself in every other interview, I'd jump off that ship in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: bossybarb at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (nPbaV)
Nativist!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Even a couple of people here at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (LYCUN)
I think there should be mandatory duels every morning after these debates!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (1uwuc)
>This is a gamechanger.
>The whole race is now reset.
I'd change things around slightly:
"Ace said that what happened with Trump was a gamechanger, and the whole race is now reset."
'AGAIN? It's embarrassing.'
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (/IrCS)
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Ace, Ace... I said that during the SC debate. Iwas terribly, terribly wrong.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (eRNg7)
Really? Ok. So who is your horse in this race?
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (R5HRU)
Great spectacle.
***
Now that Rubio has tasted blood, will he ever be safe to let off of a chain again?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (i6S4a)
His mailman
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (45oDG)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (voOPb)
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I don't know, he seems more likable than Hillary.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (R5HRU)
I respect your observations of the world, but how many times are you gonna fall for the Donald is Done, Now, Really stuff?
He's been put on a spit tonight and he's standing tall. He's up for it. His strength is the takeaway.
Posted by: Mega at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (JwLCI)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (+O9YB)
Rubio is not a negotiator... negotiator... negotiator. --
D. Trump
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (NPofj)
Can I say a bad word about CNN? After the O-Care talk I noteced they had a headline at bottom of live feed saying "5 ways Obamacare has helped Americans."
CNN is still enemy territory. Hope the candidates remember that!
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (LiMbk)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (mxCgt)
I thought maybe he was just getting back at him for calling him a "loser." a few hundred times.
But, to go after Trump on tax returns is baffling to me...that is the one area Romney had NO room to talk.
Posted by: TickledPink at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (F5hTl)
Trump wall.
Pause in immigration.
Force the illegals to get the hell out.
Nothing else matters to the folks that are drawn to Trump.... well.... except Trump Steaks!
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (e7T6D)
I think it could be done fairly easily but I don't see anyone doing it.
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (eRNg7)
Golf clap
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: TickledPink
Yeah--that's my thing!
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (Onoqd)
Unfortunately I don't anticipate anything changing. As he said himself, Trump could shoot someone and gain 10 pts.
People are unbelievably stupid. They like Trump for the same reason they like reality TV and used to like Jerry Springer.
This country elected Obama twice. If he could run again, I guarantee he'd win again because the vast majority of people are imbeciles and society is getting dumber by the day.
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (XItbt)
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Yeah, probably right. More likely scenario is they are going down swinging. I really thought Marco was hedging for a VP play up until tonight.
Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (mhkbv)
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I don't know, he seems more likable than Hillary.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (qHgBB)
Attila the Hun is more likable than Hillary
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (45oDG)
152 Trump voters are deaf to the facts that Donald Trump is a Democrat in populist clothing.
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:09 PM (MM3j3)
Incorrect.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: ... at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (8ziBV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (ADIwO)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (AkOaV)
so fucking what? So now we bail out a foreign country with our tax dollars because... because they say they love us?
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (VjlMj)
I cannot picture Trump as CiC. No fucking way.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Utr at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (8OdfZ)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (K/p7v)
That's because he is smarter than Trump.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: D. Trump at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (LiMbk)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (7O3sA)
We Americans love a good fight, as the great General Patton observed.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (qHgBB)
How hard is that, though?
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: abby at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (HBU7W)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (1uwuc)
Posted by: Skeezix at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (WnCSK)
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (L1+sh)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (Z56vq)
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (mxCgt)
yes, you were. I was wrong when I thought that Trump would prepare the battlespace for Cruz, then quickly fade into whatever Trump fades into, leaving Cruz on a Throne of Skulls with Rubio bringing him lemonade
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (8CdUx)
213
Who in the fuck cuts John Kasich's hair.
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (i6S4a)
His mailman
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My boo I almost fell outta the bed, we laughed so hard at this!
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (+O9YB)
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (jufFW)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: MathMom at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (L4G9B)
Posted by: BCochran1981
And sleep with married women! Don't forget that.
I also routinely make promises I can't make good on.
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (/ciMI)
Posted by: rdbrewer at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (Iyg03)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:17 PM (voOPb)
Trump just has to be belegerent and dominant.
Why do you think "strong-men" tend to become dictoators in Latin America, Africa, and Europe before that?
hard to be the dominant strongman when you're being made to look foolish and people are laughing at you.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:17 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:17 PM (qHgBB)
he'd win again because the vast majority of people are imbeciles and
society is getting dumber by the day.
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:10 PM (XItbt)
True but that still doesn't mean Trump will win.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:17 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 25, 2016 10:17 PM (Lqy/e)
Well... Trump is sounding the least belligerent on foreign affairs so far.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:17 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (L1+sh)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (/ciMI)
It was like being in Nam, man!
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (1uwuc)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (8olbK)
Posted by: Hipster John Kasich at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (zOTsN)
I'd be at a nice steak house right now and not torturing myself with this shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (Dwl2T)
Posted by: ... at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (8ziBV)
...and Trump WON'T beat her, because he won't go after her the way he's gone after his GOP opponents. He just won't.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Palerider at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (mhkbv)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: redbanzai
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Trump can not possibly get elected.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: ... at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (
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Oh, I think they can.
Posted by: Emmie at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (ezXrF)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (R5HRU)
How much do you think will Trump's lead will increase?"
True!
Posted by: Skeezix at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (WnCSK)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (uZNvH)
huh? I'm in the military right now. I have no idea what these rah rah blowhards are talking about.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (VjlMj)
They're teaming up against Hillary's catspaw.
Posted by: gewa76 at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (dgti/)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: naturalfake at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (KUa85)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:13 PM (GEICT)
Yeah. And all his followers can say is "Yeah, he's an asshole, but he's our asshole."
Oh sure.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (P8951)
-Kasich
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (jufFW)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (8SiRT)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (LiMbk)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Tom Cruise at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (uZNvH)
answers are more geared towards the angry voters than any of the other
candidates. In the end, this is not a game-changer at all. Trump will
still be getting the lion's share; and Cruz and Rubio will have simply
traded votes among establishment voters that were never gonna vote for
Trump to begin with.
Posted by: greg at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (+UPoY)
Establishment voters are not voting for Cruz.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Baron Bon Mot at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (J3UIw)
253 Incorrect.
Posted by: eman
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I assume you mean that they *do* know.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:15 PM (mxCgt)
I think they do, many of them, and none of them care.
Trump is not winning because people think he is a Conservative. Conservatives have proven to be useless.
Trump is winning because he is not supposed to be there.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (MQEz6)
I'd be at a nice steak house right now and not torturing myself with this shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (FsuaD)
I just made myself a nice steak. Pepper-encrusted and medium rare. mmmmmmm
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (uZNvH)
Rubio and Cruz fall back a bit.
Kasich gains some of their voters and the bulk of undecideds over the weekend.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (21hN3)
***************
I know, it's sad but when he complains about it he comes across as incredibly weak.
He needed to interject himself into the debate and go fuck it, I'm gonna speak out of turn if they're not going to give me enough air time.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (/ciMI)
It was like being in Nam, man!
Trump got a dishonorable discharge.
Posted by: Weirddave at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (N8hFs)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (NPofj)
Well, there goes Texas.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Lauren
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More agents probably assigned than to the Clinton Foundation.
Posted by: Tom Cruise at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:20 PM (8SiRT)<<<
Nope. He had to pay for that Prayer Breakfast humiliation.
Posted by: The Hussein Clown Posse at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Willy at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (ersJc)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (8PbKi)
Dredd Roberts
Getting rid of the DOE and EPA
The Omnibus
Sealing the Border
Really.
Posted by: Mega at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (JwLCI)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: The Fun Hat at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (vBeA5)
a girl can dream Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:18 PM (qCMvj)
Ugh don't even tease about that. *dreams*
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (LiMbk)
Why do evangelicals support a man (Trump) who brags about screwing married women??
To which I reply: I dunno. I don't know any in meatspace who do, much to my surprise. Everyone with whom I have discussed politics favors Cruz, and loathes Trump.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (N8hFs)
He didn't, but his partners sure did.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Utr at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (8OdfZ)
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (Z56vq)
I think this is probably true. Much of America's "support" for Israel has come with strings attached. It seems like every administration insists that they keep negotiating with the Palis and whatnot.
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (sdi6R)
http://tinyurl.com/gu9swld
My point is, how much return is there on the 8th debate on a weary electorate?
Posted by: Nora the wise at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (Trq86)
The failure of the Evangelicals to migrate to Cruz has been a shocker to me--and that has been what has enabled Trump to hold his lead. Oh, well, hope they enjoy their Planned Parenthood future...
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (+O9YB)
Posted by: greg
still wrong
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (/ciMI)
It was like being in Nam, man!
Trump got a dishonorable discharge.
That's Gold.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (FsuaD)
is supposed to be the true conservative, anti establishment guy is
teaming up with the ultimate GOPe candidate against one of the two non
politicians running. And this was the scheme the GOPe dreamed up.
They're teaming up against Hillary's catspaw.
Posted by: gewa76 at February 25, 2016 10:19 PM (dgti/)
OR they independently were smart enough to figure out Trump was the most necessary target.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Lou at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (2O+I6)
Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (uZNvH)
You're killin me.
Posted by: tdpwells at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (evKax)
WE'RE FUCKED
teh only thing that could save this shit show is if Hillary gets indicted and it's Trump vs the Anteater from the Pink Panther
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (RIFiP)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (rwI+c)
Thank you, Glen Beck!
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: That guy who always says... at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (Dwehj)
Oh great 2 people who aren't qualified
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: ... at February 25, 2016 10:14 PM (8ziBV)
Se puede creer esto si no lees todos las encuestras. Si lee las encuestras parece que Cruz y posiblemente Mario se podrian vencer a Hillary, pero segun ellas Trump no se puede.
La problema es Trump parece demasiado a Hillary. Mal cabello, gordo, liberal, dishonesto, nadie le fie, solamente crea que es una arma blanca a matar a sus enimigos: nadie cree que es una fuerza a mejorar al pais.
Posted by: Hanibal Cruz-Aquino at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Joe Biteme at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (QAL09)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (8SiRT)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: E.T. at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (yq4gk)
Bush "betray capitalism to save it" and huge spending.
GOP give us the house and we'll stop (issue here) oh its not enough we need senate too. Then do NOTHING but support what they ran against. etc.
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: Yip
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There is not the remotest chance.
The media and DNC have left Donald alone so far, allowing Donald to deconstruct the Republican field.
Once they crank up, Donald will be savaged. He's a weak, uniformed blowhard, with lots of skeletons.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: That guy who always says... at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (Dwehj)
***************************
The theory is that he would have, had his balls suddenly not dropped the the floor and fleed to Bora Bora just before the second and third debates.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Bandersnatch's Liver at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:23 PM (R5HRU)
I'm waiting on the Ben Shapiro video from his speech.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (hCdMd)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (mxCgt)
Yeah, he did. He did put the qualifier that "These were bad guys, but at least they killed terrorists." Of course, not the ones THEY sponsored...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (iHjB5)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (voOPb)
Can I have a second on the motion?
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (zt+N6)
ha!
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard
That's where I get mine ...wait, ...oh.
Posted by: dogfish at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: Mario Rubio at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (8olbK)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (8SiRT)
Yes. Yes he did.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (XItbt)
I'd laugh.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (8SiRT)
Wait, did Trump just come out as pro-Saddam?
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (8SiRT)
He's been back and forth on the whole issue.
He was all "take out Saddam" while Clinton was in office, and now claims Booosh should have been impeached for the Iraq war.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (RIFiP)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (+O9YB)
Trump could strangle that Telemundo chick while raping her, and then turn around and sodomize Wolf Blitzer with a mircorphoe (all on air), and his polls would only go up.
Posted by: The Yuuuuuuuge Hat at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: gewa76 at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (dgti/)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (pUDQf)
Yep. And he lies, too.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks. at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (16TRA)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (Trq86)
Makes me want to put a muzzle on him.
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (Z56vq)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:16 PM (Z56vq)
Israel's leash is, for the most part, self imposed.
They bombed the Iraqi reactor and the Syrian nuclear sites without any approval from the United States.
They routinely violate Syrian and Lebanese airspace, and occasionally venture into the horn of Africa. All without American approval.
Trust me, it is Israel that restrains Israel.
Only a strike against Iran, with its obvious requirement of American support, is controlled by Obama.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (Zu3d9)
376 Mike Hammer. Dude. You might be right. ... but do you really believe that? Chances are.... he's gonna blow the whole thing to bits and win in a populist landslide.... a nationalist -populist landslide the likes we've not seen in the US.
Posted by: Yip
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There is not the remotest chance.
The media and DNC have left Donald alone so far, allowing Donald to deconstruct the Republican field.
Once they crank up, Donald will be savaged. He's a weak, uniformed blowhard, with lots of skeletons.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (mxCgt)
Nope. The MFM will be as powerless against Trump as has been the gope.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (bZ7mE)
Pretty much everyone in my immediate circle is now for Trump with a few Cruz supporters thrown in ... and a bunch of leftists, with more than a few glomming onto the old Bolshevik (for which they get verbally beaten to a pulp).
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Mario Rubio at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (e7T6D)
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Better than Reagan's 49-1 landslide against Mondale in 1984?
I find that... unlikely...
Posted by: junior at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (fgd5X)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: AD at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (QWY55)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:25 PM (qCMvj)
Here is it:
http://livestream.com/YAF/events/4870270
Posted by: The YAF Hat at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (K/p7v)
How you doin'?
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (hCdMd)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (8SiRT)
No one is attacking you, Ben, because they all know you shouldn't be there anymore, and really don't matter.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (qCMvj)
I'd be on board.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: tdpwells at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (evKax)
Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (GEICT)
What does it say about Cruz and Rubio that they can't beat an empty suit?
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Media Splatters at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (Dwehj)
Posted by: pointsnfigures at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (buZYY)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: KillianThyme at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (n2r4H)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (8olbK)
Educate me. What is neoconservatism?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: @votermom at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (cbfNE)
Who does the media and all go after when they are afraid of losing? That's right, whoever they mock and screech about. Heads going splody right, left, south in Mexico and in China. Trump scares them all. Me? Not so much. The bar for a man to be "presidential" was lost in the last eight years. I want the entire political scheming and super delegate/ buying power for lobbies to go down. Let's roll. This is why I am removed from caring who wins...but if Trump does, it is a sign that the game changes.
I remember, clearly, when the media and all mocked Reagan. Mocked him enough that it worked: I voted for stupid Carter (hangs head in shame for only Dem vote). Reagan was a senile old actor who would ruin this country. That was the message. So I am not jumping on the anti-Trump train.
Watch him, one on one, when he is not in defensive mode. He can be thoughtful. He is obviously smart (again, read Mark Steyn's account of a rally). He is successful. I hope he would choose wisely, if elected, to win this country back.
Who among you would not be defensive at this point if you were him?
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (1uwuc)
Posted by: Grey Fox
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Same here. They are disgusted by Trump.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (GLtAj)
Posted by: Joe Biteme at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (QAL09)
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (jufFW)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (K/p7v)
How you doin'?
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (zt+N6)
::checks watch:: last call o'clock already? Giggity!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (AkOaV)
If you're into hollow marketing lines. Rubio is promoting the same stupid shit that got us Iraq.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (RIFiP)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (/tuJf)
http://livestream.com/YAF/events/4870270
Posted by: The YAF Hat at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (vBeA5)
thanks so much
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (pUDQf)
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Reagan was a conservative.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:27 PM (K/p7v)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
you know the rules....pics??
??
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (cs3mp)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Alex Jones at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (LYCUN)
No matter how bad it seems it's still the Trump show.
Posted by: bestie21 at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (HUeC4)
Posted by: Fritz at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (BngQR)
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (rZJS9)
So a neurosurgeon and a successful business man are less qualified than two senators? On what basis?
Posted by: Utr at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (8OdfZ)
Posted by: E.T. at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (yq4gk)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (hCdMd)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (i6S4a)
I was just thinking right now. We need more John Kasich.
Posted by: AD at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (QWY55)
My drink was getting low.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (uZNvH)
I can't imagine how Trump could be doing much worse if he wanted to.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:24 PM (/tuJf)
so, you got any new material ???
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (8CdUx)
Where mitt couldn't run against Obama on Obama care neither can trump,run against Hillary
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (MxONJ)
Posted by: dogfish at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (MNgU2)
former liberals who still liberals, but for whatever reason, had fallings out with the D party, and have a strong Wilsonian foreign policy.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (AkOaV)
Wow.
It's as if it was a script. Thankfully, almost no one is watching this .
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Tami at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (v0/PR)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Zach John Galt at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (vOCeA)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (qHgBB)
That you will never go broke underestimating the American public.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (mxCgt)
And that's why most women should not vote.
Posted by: bossybarb at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (nPbaV)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (K/p7v)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
so porn?
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (Onoqd)
Only a strike against Iran, with its obvious requirement of American support, is controlled by Obama.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 10:28 PM (Zu3d9)
Yes and no. Israel plays too nicely, all on its own. That's been true through every war Israel has been in - evidenced by the fact that Israel has never bombed the capital city of an enemy state in war, save Beirut ... but that doesn't count because everyone and his brother were bombing Beirut at the time.
However, Israel has still been restrained by America. For a very long time. Restrained by the stupid "peace process" which has never been anything but a joke. Restrained by other American concerns. The difference with Barky is that Israel is being assaulted by his administration, not just constrained. Bush constrained Israel with respect to Iran. barky threatens Israel with respect to Iran. THere's a qualitative difference.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (zt+N6)
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Swinish Multitude
Posted by: Tom Jefferson at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (mxCgt)
Thanks tor asking.
Obviously I haven't had enough....
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (1uwuc)
Trump was interviewed by Byron York just before the Iowa caucus.
The Trump in that interview is not the man the Trump-haters project on the screen here.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (MQEz6)
Oh this is waaaay better with mute on!
Posted by: Tami at February 25, 2016 10:31 PM (v0/PR)
Lol
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (FsuaD)
A democrat and a nice guy who's not political
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (voOPb)
I guess I should sat yuuuuge!
Posted by: H Badger at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (+xIXD)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (8qoUN)
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Reagan was a conservative.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (mxCgt)
Reagan was also governor of California for eight years.
Posted by: AD at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (QWY55)
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: gracepc at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (OU4q6)
Rubio has got a massive gap to close in FL and if Trump can keep Cruz from 50% in Texas ... then I don't see how the math works out for either Cruz or Rubio. And, if either one drops out ... their supporters are more likely to fade to Trump then to the remaining contender.
Those 50 early delegates in SC make it hard for Cruz or Rubio to close the gap without winning their home states in a significant fashion.
Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (cXiMR)
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (rZJS9)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (NqQAS)
Posted by: Bandersnatch's Liver at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Tom Jefferson at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (RIFiP)
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (bZ7mE)
Oldest stepson and my husband are Trump fanboys...we got a package with two Trump hats and two bumper stickers in it a while ago, invoice said it all cost $50. I left the box laying around, came home Monday and my Lab puppy had eaten both hats, both bumper stickers and most of the box...heh heh heh.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: Joe Biteme at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (QAL09)
Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (H9MG5)
So a neurosurgeon and a successful business man are less qualified than two senators? On what basis?
Posted by: Utr at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (8OdfZ)
LOL.
Ain't that the truth!
There is hardly a less qualified group (with respect to ANYTHING) in America outside of professional politicians.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (8qoUN)
Trump should say it was protection money.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (iweze)
Posted by: Dr. Lexus at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (w+mZJ)
Their's was the politics of a decade ago. We are tired of sending troops to the rest of the world. They aggressive, globalist stance won't help them.
China is aggressively taking control over one of the largest, of not the largest, shipping lanes in the world and making faces at the Philippines and Japan. Russia is setting itself up to control the flow of Middle Eastern oil. Turkey and Iran are maneuvering to take over Syria and resurrect their old empires. Europe is in crisis, demographic, cultural, and economic.
The base may not be interested in these things, but that doesn't mean that those things are uninterested in them.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (fC9RO)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (i6S4a)
Thanks tor asking.
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (K/p7v)
You didn't watch a lot of Friends did you?
https://youtu.be/YjQ1xD6UL-4
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (LiMbk)
The whole race is now reset.
Posted by Ace at 09:59 PM
Haven't really seen much evidence that debates change much.
Those predisposed to Trump aren't really going to be swayed by a poor performance in a debate where everyone and their brother was doing their best to hurt him.
Those already dead set against him don't get extra votes or anything.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (62Vup)
Posted by: Avi at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (fijdj)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (rwI+c)
try some unguent
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: bobomatic at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (/Y4u1)
Posted by: CozMark at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (N8hFs)
This, I could understand.
Posted by: Aviator at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Jean
Cruz laps Trump with Texas, which he is winning easily
Rubio is way behind in FL
Cruz gets FL?
Katy bar the door
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Utr at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (8OdfZ)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (AkOaV)
pero, comprendo que un vato no me gusta
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (dciA+)
I've been saying this all along... I don't like any of them... I am soooo depressed...
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: @votermom at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (cbfNE)
Trumps true colors come out when heat is on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (eRNg7)
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Ok, that made me laugh out loud
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (rZJS9)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Fritz at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (BngQR)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (AkOaV)
NeoCon!
Posted by: Lorn Pau at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (LYCUN)
Note how the Democrat debates are practically hidden from view by comparison. They'd rather not let mainstream Americans know what they have in store for us.
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM
You know how this will end
Posted by: Admiral J. Painter at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: bobomatic at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (/Y4u1)
Posted by: Bandersnatch's Liver at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (dciA+)
Either that, or a reasonably attractive burro.
Posted by: antisocialist at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (LHYvh)
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (GEICT)
but he's wrong.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (21hN3)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: maddogg at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (rgIC0)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (/dSsq)
No, Rubio, they are asking to create a back door.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (AkOaV)
I agree but the FBI is lying about what they want.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (62Vup)
Posted by: Dr. Lexus at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (w+mZJ)
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at February 25, 2016 10:36 PM (Rtyzj)
God help us.
Posted by: Bandersnatch's Liver at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (1xUj/)
Yes, and at this point in the primary you have no excuse for still believing in God.
Posted by: AD at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (QWY55)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (dciA+)
The govt is telling Apple to weaken their security.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (voOPb)
It's going to be pretty difficult for even the most ardent Trump supporter to ignore the doing jobs Americans won't do comment and the no one is going to die in the streets comment which is the Obamacare equivalent of Rick Perry saying anyone against helping illegals are heartless.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (yos+4)
Posted by: Emily at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (7Rn+/)
Posted by: Infidel at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (xAdXB)
me gusta la vocabulario en espanol, pero es todovia difficil para mi leer. comprendo solomente uno poco
pero, comprendo que un vato no me gusta
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (dciA+)
Yeah, well, FUCK YOU TOO, ace, you racist, sexist bastard!!!!!!!!!
Whatever you said.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (N8hFs)
Bullshit.
That's a flat out lie.
Posted by: Johnson1213 at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (+I10c)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (sdxPm)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (qHgBB)
it did in fact. His polls dropped by 5% or 6%, which is what i said would happen.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 10:22 PM (bZ7mE)
Aint you Pauline Kael? I thought you was dead.
Posted by: Avi at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (fijdj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (pUDQf)
I'm seeing new nics tonight. And surprise, they're all Trolling for Trump. And not one has anything interesting or insightful to say.
greg sounds like the same buttlick greg who was here during the wisconsin recall.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (P8951)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (eRNg7)
Trump to Cruz: "Go ahead, don't be nervous" That was beautiful.
Posted by: Joe Biteme at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM
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Classic Trump. He's all flustered and desperately doing everything he can to maintain some sense of control, and Cruz is cool as a cucumber.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (MNgU2)
better hair!
Posted by: thathalfrican at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (R5HRU)
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (/pOl7)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: dogfish at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (0O2Lr)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: bobomatic at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (/Y4u1)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: naturalfake at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (KUa85)
I don't know man, that running for president man, that's like super stressful man.
Posted by: Rand Paul at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (L1+sh)
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It says more about his supporters than anying.
Because he is worse than just an empty suit.
Posted by: chi at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (0MKsl)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (iweze)
Presidential or not, Trump looked less frenzied than his two main opponents.
Again, I think Kasich gets a big bump after tonight.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (21hN3)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (8PbKi)
I think it is time to put someone in office who is not a career politician. Did the Founding Fathers state a President had to be a Senator, Governor or attorney from Harvard/Yale?
As I said, I got burned in 2012. Had a lot of hope for that one. Got fired up. Went to rallies, etc. Not this time. Watching from sidelines but it does remind me of the Reagan smears and propaganda. Fear inspires this.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (1uwuc)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: bossybarb at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (nPbaV)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (K/p7v)
ardent Trump supporter to ignore the doing jobs Americans won't do
comment and the no one is going to die in the streets comment which is
the Obamacare equivalent of Rick Perry saying anyone against helping
illegals are heartless.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (yos+4)
nah it will be easy.
because Trump's support comes from the emotional feelz that he engenders.
Trump's fanbois don't give a damn about Trump's own hypocrisy.
Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (uZNvH)
539 No really, Republicans understand average Americans.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:34 PM (/tuJf)
Indeed they do.
With contempt.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (MQEz6)
No but he always "wins" the polls afterwards. At least on Drudge...
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (/dSsq)
BULLSHIT Rubio this is a wedge / precedent case they're already lining up DoJ has 17 more phones, Manhattan DA has 172.... everyone salivating at precedent. Rubio with bad answer (to me) and yes I'm a techie.
Cruz - not really getting if we unlock THIS terrorist phone that it's precedent to force them to comply with ALL court orders moving forward.
Carson - also on what I consider wrong side of issue.
Kaisch - missing issue that this is a wedge case to set up for LOTS more of this. You can't do both protect
users AND force unlocks.
I'm pretty much unhappy with all those answers. They are knee jerk responses.
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Fritz at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (BngQR)
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (e7T6D)
At least Cruz made sense in his argument. WTF was with Rubio? How do you disable a security mechanism without creating a backdrop into the system.
And Kashich? Lock the door? So, he advocates arresting people who disagree with the President?
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: bobomatic at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (/Y4u1)
Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (As+1M)
According to their warnings in the press they hate him back.
Did they not learn from the Pope, your criticism makes him stronger?
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (LiMbk)
You re running for president, not for choirboy.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (jufFW)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (zOTsN)
Now ms Hispanic brings up
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Tami at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (v0/PR)
I'll be snuggling with last Saturday's kittehs on the Pet blog.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Weirddave at February 25, 2016 10:21 PM (N8hFs)
Bullshit.
That's a flat out lie.
Posted by: Johnson
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You do know that we're talking about his women, right?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (7FH+T)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (rwI+c)
he was made to look foolish. are you really disputing that?
do you dispute that being made to look foolish is a bad thing, particularly for Trump?
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (dciA+)
***
He's the Erik Estrada of candidates.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
He's in the chips.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (RIFiP)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:26 PM (8olbK)
Educate me. What is neoconservatism?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (MNgU2)
Did you fall asleep for the 8 years that W. was President?
Posted by: Hump for Trump at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (8EJen)
My husband translated your comment. Which son of a bitch don't you like or understand?
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (VjlMj)
That's just your opinion!
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (T78UI)
or Rubio to close the gap without winning their home states in a
significant fashion.
Posted by: Jean
Cruz laps Trump with Texas, which he is winning easily
Rubio is way behind in FL
Cruz gets FL?
Katy bar the door
Posted by: ThunderB
I agree Rubio is screwed, maybe there is some latent support rolling his way from Team Jeb!!; but if not he's toast. I haven't seen anything that puts Cruz over 50% in Texas to get the shitload of delegates. He's gonna win, but 48% is kissing your cousin.
Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (cXiMR)
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (K/p7v)
Holy shit. They rehired you? Dems must be scraping the bottom of their barrel.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (GEICT)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (hgpSN)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (NqQAS)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Colorado Alex at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (fC9RO)
just saying
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (zOTsN)
Canada is chock full of Pakis.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: bobomatic at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (/Y4u1)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (1uwuc)
Worst election of my life thus far. Actually called off work the next day to avoid dealing with the Obama sycophants in my department.
Posted by: tdpwells at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (evKax)
Posted by: Congressman Hank Johnson at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (rZJS9)
I was right.
Posted by: greg
hey
Rand Paul is not on the ballot. You know that right?
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:40 PM (/tuJf)
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General election
Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (mhkbv)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: JackStraw
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As soon as Hillary is declared winner.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (mxCgt)
*hoists glass of bourbon*
Cheers
I love not having cable TV.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (ejgEo)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (zc3Db)
My point was that Israel acts in its own self interest, except when Israel itslef is conflicted...which it often is.
Did Israel bomb Damascus? No, you are correct. But it has flown 100s of missions over Syrian territory, in spite of clear U.S. frustration with that behavior.
The real leash is placed on Israel by destructive elements within its own social and political structure. The Israeli left wants to share power with the pallies!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: logprof at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (cs3mp)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (e7T6D)
Has Trump ever had a good debate?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM
He's had really, really great debates. The best debates you've ever seen. You wouldn't believe how great his debates have been. I'm telling you.
Posted by: IrishEi at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (MM3j3)
did I hear that right?
Did Kasich let his inner totalitarian out for a frolic during his Apple answer?
Posted by: naturalfake at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (KUa85)
Posted by: Gov. Kasich at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (vBeA5)
me gusta la vocabulario en espanol, pero es todovia difficil para mi leer. comprendo solomente uno poco
pero, comprendo que un vato no me gusta
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:35 PM (dciA+)
Yeah, well, FUCK YOU TOO, ace, you racist, sexist bastard!!!!!!!!!
Whatever you said.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (FsuaD)
If Rubio wins, the blog will be entirely in Spanish.
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Dora the Explorer at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (IVCCS)
but you have to go through speaking like a child to then write like a middle schooler.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Dr. Lexus at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (w+mZJ)
By the way, as of this writing, here's the Drudgereport poll:
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE 10TH REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
TRUMP 64.7% (62,213 votes)
CRUZ 17.48% (16,806 votes)
RUBIO 12.55% (12,072 votes)
KASICH 3.34% (3,208 votes)
CARSON 1.93% (1,859 votes)
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (/IrCS)
A man in my position can not be made to look ridiculous!
Posted by: Irving Woltz at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (NqQAS)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (voOPb)
Donald Trump: drying out and turning brown around the edges like old lettuce. I'm thinking: President Jesse Ventura.
Ted Cruz: IQ 155. Whatever his other issues, there's that.
Rubio: Earnest, slimy, phony-baloney.
Trump has lost me. I was willing to give him a chance. I'm done.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (/f6Nd)
I'm glad Mario & Cruz are taking him on.
Trump only uses same lines every time I've seen him.
I would like him to lose & badly Tuesday!
Posted by: Carol at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (mxCgt)
Definitely a Hispanic issue!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (dciA+)
YES !!!
Posted by: Bob Dole at 99 at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (8CdUx)
ardent Trump supporter to ignore the doing jobs Americans won't do
comment and the no one is going to die in the streets comment which is
the Obamacare equivalent of Rick Perry saying anyone against helping
illegals are heartless.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (yos+4)
nah it will be easy.
because Trump's support comes from the emotional feelz that he engenders.
Trump's fanbois don't give a damn about Trump's own hypocrisy.
Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 25, 2016 10:39 PM (uZNvH)
No, only some of it is emotional.
Most of the support comes from logic.
The system is a nightmare and the only logical choice is to destroy it.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (MQEz6)
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This is a fucking retarded assessment.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (LHYvh)
Which program are you using for Spanish?
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (egOGm)
Expect it to be even more "politically" correct....
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Jimi Ray at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (LYCUN)
It's not just the Drudge poll. Normally the primary involved.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: Admiral J. Painter at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (KCxzN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (Z56vq)
greg is here.
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (K/p7v)
Posted by: Carol at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (qCMvj)
And gah yes I miss Fortuna as their gov.
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (LiMbk)
through every war Israel has been in - evidenced by the fact that Israel
has never bombed the capital city of an enemy state in war, save Beirut
... but that doesn't count because everyone and his brother were
bombing Beirut at the time."
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:32 PM (zc3Db)
Umm, you need to check in with (at that time) Major Arnon Lapidot, IAF. He lead the IAF (F-4Es) attack on the Syrian Military HQ in Damascus during the Yom Kippur War.
Posted by: Jim Scrummy at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (/TQ6p)
My Spanish conversations typically begin/end with:
Mi espanol es muy malo
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (3DIzJ)
but the Trumpsters will just respond "yeah? yeah? your guy is even MORE foolish! nyah nyah!"
Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (uZNvH)
me gusta mucho. es ejitante. (I have no idea. I'm trying to convert "exciting" to spanish. I have no idea if that's even close to right.)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: IrishEi
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lol
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (mxCgt)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Joe Biteme at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (MD/fT)
By the way, as of this writing, here's the Drudgereport poll:
**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE 10TH REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?
TRUMP 64.7% (62,213 votes)
CRUZ 17.48% (16,806 votes)
RUBIO 12.55% (12,072 votes)
KASICH 3.34% (3,208 votes)
CARSON 1.93% (1,859 votes)
Posted by: Crude
like the polls for Rand Paul right
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (zOTsN)
Hugh Hewitt writes down the questions and the Univision chick asks them. I think that's what you call a win win.
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: on the former planet Pluto at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (8CdUx)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (rwI+c)
Go take the Drudge poll. Donald is having a good night over there.
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (Z56vq)
You have to wonder what's in this for Drudge. He's basically sold his credibility up the road with his internet polls.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (sdi6R)
Ace is setting the expectations for the future of the country and the blog! Better buy the DuoLingo subscription ASAP!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: gerg the poll troll and Trump-bluimpkin at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: Mark1971 at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (vaR50)
Lo siento, pero parece a mi que esta debate no va cambiar el ventaja del Donaldo.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (+O9YB)
Posted by: spypeach at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (nyYhO)
.....
Yup.
If that doesn't get them to comply, maybe the President can just seize the entire company. Because that's Conservative.
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (XItbt)
Posted by: bobomatic at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (/Y4u1)
I have no flipping idea who will win this debate by the time the MSM filters the sound bites.
Posted by: Nom de Blog at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (HeZ0H)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (AaZLR)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Mitt Biggly at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (uZNvH)
Why yes I was asleep during the Bush administration. Why don't you define Neoconservatism for me.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (MNgU2)
No. I expected them to be at least a little receptive, but as far as I can tell I am the only one so far that might actually vote for him.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (bZ7mE)
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Yes, but not just that, if we were to be pragmatic about this, Rubio is a no-sale and Cruz is unelectable, although not because he's unlikable, which I don't agree with, but because of a shoddily run campaign.
That leaves Trump.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (qHgBB)
Yes, I did.
You got a problem with that?
Posted by: Rip van Winkle at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (YJmuy)
I think it is time to put someone in office who is not a career politician. Did the Founding Fathers state a President had to be a Senator, Governor or attorney from Harvard/Yale?
As I said, I got burned in 2012. Had a lot of hope for that one. Got fired up. Went to rallies, etc. Not this time. Watching from sidelines but it does remind me of the Reagan smears and propaganda. Fear inspires this.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:38 PM (1uwuc)
Just because the media said that, doesn't mean you should discount the critique everytime they say that, cf, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Also see, Jesse Ventura.
Just use go by your own judgment.
Reagan gave significant reasons to discount the critique. He gave one of the seminal speeches of the modern conservative movement in 1964. He was heavily involved in debating political issues for three decades before he was elected President. And he was Governor of California for eight years.
The case for Donald Trump is weaker.
Posted by: AD at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (QWY55)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (8olbK)
Maybe put a tampon in the Dim Silicon Valley political ATM.
Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (cXiMR)
Posted by: Avi at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (fijdj)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (3DIzJ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (hCdMd)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (5HDxT)
Posted by: Vato el rubes at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (yq4gk)
Everyone who said they were "done with Trump" after tonight or other recent debates will end up cheering him when he turns his nasty self against Hillary.
He promising to prosecute her after he wins the election will be the kicker.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (21hN3)
Posted by: Jolly at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (D03ZZ)
Posted by: Cjw at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (B8ZXh)
Heh. I thought you were going for "Yuuuuge".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (1xUj/)
And so, I'll have the Fajitas al Carbon, enchiladas con carne and a side of frijoles refritos, por favor.
Gracias!
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (McRlu)
do you dispute that being made to look foolish is a bad thing, particularly for Trump?
Posted by: ace
Again, what I wrote still stands; it won't hurt him with his support.
I think we make a mistake as political junkies by magnifying events like debates in our judgement of the race. Most voters don't watch and don't care.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (62Vup)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (qCMvj)
Maybe he could could add Guy Caballero to his cabinet.
Posted by: Tommy Shanks at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (w+mZJ)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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It's as if the guy is trying to make clear the fact that he is a shallow buffoon.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (9mTYi)
veramos quien tiene el razon.
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (dciA+)
Posted by: Gerg the Poll Troll and Trump-blumpkin at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (ztrrs)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (Onoqd)
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And after they let the media stampede through the terrorists' home after hardly enough time for them to collect their evidence?
Posted by: Emmie at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (ezXrF)
Oh, and to Ace, from a Rubio supporter: YOU'RE WELCOME.
Oh, and please apologize, considering your earlier "Rubio is going to be a pussy and not attack Donald." Rubio brought out the knives tonight. You know how those Latins like to stab things!
Posted by: Vyce at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (HI7nL)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Jess Ventura at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (P8951)
Yeah, and his handlers get 55 cents of every dollar taken in.
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (MM3j3)
Es un amiga mio. Ven, y te lo presento.
Maria, quiere a presentarle a un amigo mio.
(blah, blah biblioteca...)
Spanish I, Dialogue I
Posted by: IrishEi at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (E6RIJ)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (LiMbk)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:29 PM (1uwuc)
Trump was interviewed by Byron York just before the Iowa caucus.
The Trump in that interview is not the man the Trump-haters project on the screen here.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:33 PM (MQEz6)
I've seen 2 or 3 videos of Trump giving interviews with newspaper editorial boards and as guests with prominent opinion people (most recently Pat Robertson - at least I think that's who the old guy was) and it is bizarre how much his persona changes and how he actually sounds articulate regarding policy - certainly not Cruz-like but nevertheless an insane difference. Which leads me to think he's doing these debates as an act although for who I'm unsure; I mean I doubt his core base of supporters actually watches these shit shows.
Posted by: Hump for Trump at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (8EJen)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (dciA+)
To the extent that voting for Trump pisses all the right people off...
then so be it. This is the F.U. election.
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (e7T6D)
Fuck you is great when you are a teenager and have parents who will keep your life going while you tantrum.
As an adult solution it sucks donkey balls.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Cjw
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That.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (9mTYi)
Ive got this one. Es muy grande.
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (egOGm)
I dispute it. It's like Bill Maher. They build a team to setup the one conservative guest to look like an idiot, and that's what this looks like.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Mark1971 at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (vaR50)
**********
And it will be built out of old beer cans.
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (NqQAS)
Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (mhkbv)
Posted by: Mr. Sandman at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (H9MG5)
A. Posit that you were right in 2012
B. Declare that you only stopped by in 2012 to predict same
C. Declare that after having laid 2012 prediction you stopped dirtying your paws with visiting or commenting... until now.... to tell us.... once again... how awesome you were in 2012 and how awesome you will be forthcoming.
Yeah... I'm thinking your a big hit with the ladies.
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: on the former planet Pluto at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (8CdUx)
It's as if the guy is trying to make clear the fact that he is a shallow buffoon.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (9mTYi)
I guess that's what happens when a narcissist is surrounded by yes men. Wait, that sounds familiar.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (3DIzJ)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (5HDxT)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (qHgBB)
And after they let the media stampede through the terrorists' home after hardly enough time for them to collect their evidence?
Posted by: Emmie at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (ezXrF)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
that too
also note it was a work phone....he destroyed his personal phone I think
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: Gerry Todd at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (w+mZJ)
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 10:43 PM (MQEz6)
I said this AM that people are supporting the Donald for the same reason SWAT teams don't use feather dusters to break down doors! Neither group is interested in maintaining the current architecture.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: Blano at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (heN73)
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (zt+N6)
The idea that a first term Senator or Cruz can have a healthcare plan is ridiculous - it's pretty simple, the only one on that stage even qualified to come up with a plan is Carson and Trump should point out he can't hire him for the job until he's elected.
Posted by: doug at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (RoIDw)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (dULJN)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: M Scott Eiland at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (qQNVJ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (Zu3d9)
Yeah, I'm with you 98% on that. The Israeli left is worse for Israel than our left is for us. But the Israeli right has to fight both the Israeli left AND the American administration. The only time they didn't was during Bush's 1st term when he pulled away from Israeli decisions and Israel was truly freed. Unfortunately, it was at the same time that the worst leader in all of Jewish history was the PM - Olmert - and Israel totally squandered the chance that Bush gave them (that war with Hezbollah and Hamas ended up accomplishing nothing - less than nothing as it got Shebaa Farms put back on the table). Then that window closed, Bush came out with that stupid Road-Kill Map and it was over. Then Barky came in and it was worse than over. Way worse.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (zc3Db)
leftists who believed that the US military should invade countries led
by in some cases secular dictators, depose them and the end result would
be Jeffersonian democracy."
Wasn't there also supposed to be something in there about Skull and Bones, freemasonry, the New World Order, and treacherous shapeshifting Jooooos with dual loyalties?
Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (kBIIG)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: AltonJackson at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (KCxzN)
I'm off to bed because I can't stand anymore of this shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (PHxng)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (jEIZo)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Mark1971 at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (vaR50)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (sdxPm)
Let's put it this way: Over the course of this election, what's been a better predictor of candidate success? Drudge's poll, or people screaming 'Oh man, Trump just stepped in it BIG TIME, it's all downhill from here!'?
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (/IrCS)
Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (LHYvh)
Posted by: Darth Marco at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (IVCCS)
Wait!
What happened to French? I can follow along (slowly) in French, but Spanish (it's Spanish...right? Maybe it's Hungarian) is way, way beyond me. I have to translate into Latin and then into English and everything comes out a little....how does one say this politely?....fvcked up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: The Illuminati at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (YJmuy)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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I am NOT a 'yes man'.
Posted by: ValJar at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 10:30 PM (mxCgt)
And conservatism has failed.
Look at California, formerly Republican state. Amnesty, no-fault divorce. Look at the culture wars. Look at the state of higher "education".
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Kmb at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (jwDAn)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
*****
¡Mira! Esta foto de mi perro es muy bonita. El llame Buckley.
Y gatos estan yucky.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (3DIzJ)
Posted by: The Jackhole somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (dULJN)
This heart could not accept and pretend.
The hurtin's on me yeah,
But I will never be free no no no.
You took the vow with me yeah.
You spoke it, you spoke it, babe.
These eyes are cryin'
These eyes have seen a lot of loves
But they're never gonna see another one like I had with you.'
Posted by: Ben Carson at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (eRNg7)
Now what are we supposed to do?
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (K/p7v)
Well now there's a reason to vote for Trump
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (45oDG)
Trump looks miserable. Horrible candidate. Very bad. Perhaps Hillary bad.
He was supported aloft in a false vacuum state by a soft media and supporters who are as fucking militant as brown shirts.
Cruz and Rubio are the fucking bash brothers tonight.
If only they did this sooner, I'd feel better about the Republic.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (ZMZ2g)
Posted by: Ragnar at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (i6S4a)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (L1+sh)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (62Vup)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (MM3j3)
There might be some cute girls in the next thread.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (MNgU2)
Now what are we supposed to do?
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (K/p7v)
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Wait for the glorious victories to start coming in.
Posted by: Dave S. at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (mhkbv)
He really is SMOD in a human body.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (qHgBB)
me gusta mucho. es ejitante. (I have no idea. I'm trying to convert "exciting" to spanish. I have no idea if that's even close to right.)
Posted by: ace at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (dciA+)
***
Here, have some easy and useful Tex-Mex phrases:
"Orale! Chupan mis juevos, mojados!"
"Hello and good day! I am very glad to meet you, my friends"
"Porque tu estas in mi patria?"
"How is your father?"
"Quanto questa su esposa?"
"And how is your wife?"
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (3DIzJ)
Posted by: Joe Biteme at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (MD/fT)
Posted by: 150,000 Peguins at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (e7T6D)
He starts conversations about stuff people are concerned about, and the other candidates follow suit.
He's leading in more ways than just the polls.
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (Z56vq)
Rube Lube! Eases the toughest of illegal entries! Flows like amnesty benedictions! Never breaks down even under intense friction and heat!
Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (7tn/S)
It's over.
Now what are we supposed to do?
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (K/p7v)
Now, we wait....
wait...
So, how many beers is technically 'too many'?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (pUDQf)
He starts conversations about stuff people are concerned about, and the other candidates follow suit.
He's leading in more ways than just the polls.
?????
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: L, Elle
Knive juggling contest, what else?
------
Hopefully Maet is in a better mood tonight
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (voOPb)
You just know here squeakhole smells like Limon Pledge.
Posted by: garrett at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (eRNg7)
Posted by: Baron Bon Mot at February 25, 2016 10:53 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (qCMvj)
*************
Glenn Beck, is that you?
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (LHYvh)
I understood that. Look, the photo of my dog is very pretty. His name is Buckley. Yay me, I'm learning.
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (21hN3)
Trump's the only one to bring up the military and our vets.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:50 PM (qCMvj)
I'm a Mil Mom. Neither the Trumpbot nor his sons have served. He can go horsefuck. I'm dealing with a son who is dealing with the local VA that sucks ass. I don't need Trump pretending to give a shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (FsuaD)
Now what are we supposed to do?
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:51 PM (K/p7v)
More drinking, less pants.
Posted by: Damiano at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (XItbt)
Drudge Poll
Trump: 63.89% (76,749)
Cruz: 17.82% (21.40
Rubio: 12.7% (15, 260)
LOL...
Posted by: William Eaton at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (q52Ma)
He really is SMOD in a human body.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (qHgBB)
***
He is, as others have observed, the chosen form of the Destructor.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Opus at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (zt+N6)
Y gatos estan yucky.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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Bad Espangnol translation.
Shit! The pic of my dog is very beautiful. His name is Buckley.
Your goats are yucky.
Posted by: L, Elle at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (K/p7v)
In 2012 Romney had to battle with Candy Crawley and The Won. This season of hunting has Trump in battle with the moderators, those he is debating, the clapping seals, and the GOP...plus Hillary and the Dems.
I have been surprised at this thoughtful answers when he is one on one at interviews. I am not breaking out the signs or going to rallies, but will vote for him should he win. Will also vote for Cruz and the rest (the rest will require prior drinking to polls).
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (1uwuc)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (L1+sh)
that's one way to solve a plumbing problem!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (wYnyS)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (8qoUN)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (7O3sA)
Not for you... perhaps for others.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (NPofj)
And did not watch the debate. I'm debated out.
Posted by: Irony at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (qmMG2)
Perhaps this is your first rodeo, but a word of advice. The cute girls disappear as soon as the lights come on and the Absolute-on-the-Rocks wears off.
Hope you like deuce, deuce and a half-ers.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (ZMZ2g)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (5HDxT)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (rwI+c)
Maybe. Maybe not. All I know is that Trump stunk on ice tonight.... Gotta stop making excuses for him....
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (89I+i)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (21hN3)
That's about the extent of my Spanish. And that's after 2 yrs in HS.
Posted by: chi at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (0MKsl)
left AND the American administration.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:49 PM (zc3Db)
Yeah....I think we are disagreeing about the 2% you mentioned.
How's this:
Israel flattens Gaza, Damascus and Tehran, and offers similar treatment to Riyadh and Islamabad if and when the next terrorist attack occurs.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: CaliGirl at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (egOGm)
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen, the Kansas City Chiefs !! at February 25, 2016 10:41 PM (8CdUx)
I'm out!
Breitbart
Posted by: Avi at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (fijdj)
Maybe he could could add Guy Caballero to his cabinet.
Posted by: Tommy Shanks at February 25, 2016 10:47 PM (w+mZJ)
Vote for me - Vic Hedges the alter-native
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (45oDG)
I'm a Mil Mom. Neither the Trumpbot nor his sons
have served. He can go horsefuck. I'm dealing with a son who is dealing
with the local VA that sucks ass. I don't need Trump pretending to give
a shit.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (FsuaD)
That deserves a repeat.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Utr at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (8OdfZ)
Posted by: Jim Scrummy at February 25, 2016 10:44 PM (/TQ6p)
I was talking about actually bombing the shit out of a city. The city, itself.
And the yom Kippur War should have been instructive to Israel. They really lost that one and were only saved by a couple of miracles. Nothing less. But they didn't learn too much.
Israel fights the same exact war every ten years. Over and over. Eventually, they are going to lose - Bernoulli trials and all. They only escaped by a miracle in '73 (and '4
but miracles don't make for good strategy.Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (8olbK)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (vb33c)
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (89I+i)
_____
I welcome our new 20 million life long Democrat, non-English speaking citizens. Hooray for amnesty!!
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (0LHZx)
If Rubio wins, the blog will be entirely in Spanish.
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Not the pet thread
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 25, 2016 10:46 PM (voOPb)
What about the Taco Bell chihuahua?
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Burn It Down
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Only for the Republicans. Not a thing to be celebrated when Hillary and the Prog horde is riding down on you.
Posted by: ValJar at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Serious Cat at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (ADIwO)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: other_joe_mama at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (845LT)
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (rZJS9)
He really is SMOD in a human body.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM (qHgBB)
***
He is, as others have observed, the chosen form of the Destructor.
The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man?
Posted by: Gerry Todd at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (w+mZJ)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (MNgU2)
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Undocumented Democrats
Posted by: ValJar at February 25, 2016 10:57 PM (9mTYi)
************************
This is the same attitude that gave us Romney.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (rwI+c)
the one who can beat Trump and Hillary and we can't afford 4 years of
any of those guys. At least I'd rather not pay for it.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (89I+i)
Rubio can't win even in his own state. He can't even keep his Senate seat.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (e7T6D)
********************
Well there's something you don't see every day.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: willow at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (L1+sh)
Posted by: biancaneve at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (e98eb)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (8olbK)
Yup. See my #573.
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (sdi6R)
If Cruz/Rubio combine, they could beat Trump
the issue is who will be on the top of the ticket
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (cXiMR)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:52 PM
Not for you... perhaps for others."
If it has, please, please let is show it shelf in poll and primary results. I am so totally open to it.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (5HDxT)
Posted by: Chris not Rock at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (WO0/g)
Posted by: Trapped in LA at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (QEaBw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (FsuaD)
He's attracting a lot of vets regardless. Mil daughter, Mil sister, Mil wife, etc. Lots of military in my family, going back decades.
I do think Trump loves the country and the military. Doesn't mean he can be a good CiC, understood. But, some people are falling for it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (qCMvj)
And we will continue to hold debates until our grip on second place in Washington is re-'established'!
Posted by: The GOPe at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (ANVXm)
Posted by: gewa76 at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (dgti/)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (/dSsq)
*************************
It was a horrible night, really bad, just awful, terrible night.
I look forward to reading about his 5 point bounce in the polls by Saturday!
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (/dSsq)
____
By conventional inside the beltway analysis...yes.
But there is nothing conventional about 2016.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Irony at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (qmMG2)
To the extent that voting for Trump pisses all the right people off...
then so be it. This is the F.U. election.
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 10:42 PM (e7T6D)
Fuck you is great when you are a teenager and have parents who will keep your life going while you tantrum.
As an adult solution it sucks donkey balls.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:48 PM (NPofj)
It is not a tantrum.
Supporting Trump is a logical choice.
Cruz at best will be as ineffective as Reagan.
Rubio is a RINO shitstain.
Trump is not supposed to be there. The system is not built for him. Who is this guy? This is our list of guys and he ain't on it.
Too bad. He is winning because the enough people have seen what you get when when you trust the guys on the list.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Lauren at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (0C2f1)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (8PbKi)
I look forward to reading about his 5 point bounce in the polls by Saturday!
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM
Probably, but He did horrible...
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (zOTsN)
Do not underestimate just how widespread and deep the anger against the establishment has become.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (21hN3)
He's neutral between Israel and Palestine. But also the most pro-israel guy ever. But neutral.
George Bush loves him and he loves Bush, gave him money. But Bush is terrible. But he's great.
He doesn't believe a word from Telemundo. But he loves them. They're great.
Seriously, how can anyone vote for this guy? And how does anyone believe he won't be destroyed by Hillary? Can't people see how the media are pushing for him? Wolf Blitzer saved his rear end over and over tonight.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (89I+i)
I'm moving from Cruz to Rubio after tonight. He's the one who can beat
Trump and Hillary and we can't afford 4 years of any of those guys. At
least I'd rather not pay for it.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (89I+i)
But you think we can afford de facto amnesty, which would be accomplished in the first year of a Rubio administration with the support of the Republican-controlled Congress?
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (FohCt)
Posted by: Ralph at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (MM3j3)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (pUDQf)
They can't combine, either of their two camps would be more comfortable with Trump than the other guy. When one of them punts, its all over, Trump goes over 50% and starts rolling in the big delegate shares.
Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (cXiMR)
Oh no. Please no.
I'm one of the biggest Romney supporters around and let me tell you, is Trump had to deal with even a fraction of the shit Romney had to go through, that snarky bitch would be in the fetal position, snorting lines of blow in a penthouse suite in a Lake Tahoe casino like Jeremy Piven in Smokin' Aces.
Trump has dealt with nothing. By now, Romney -- a fucking saint of a man in terms of personal ethical code --- was a vulture capitalist using the free-market -- that as conservatives is foundational to our ideology -- to kill cancer victims.
Don't be a douche.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (ZMZ2g)
Posted by: IrishEi at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (E6RIJ)
Do not underestimate just how widespread and deep the anger against the establishment has become.
I know, and it's scary....
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: D. Trump at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: Baron Bon Mot at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (J3UIw)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (/dSsq)
Trump had a horrible night and he completely lacks character... If he knew the Bible at all he would know it is a big bad to bear false witness.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (NPofj)
Israel flattens Gaza, Damascus and Tehran, and offers similar treatment to Riyadh and Islamabad if and when the next terrorist attack occurs.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 10:56 PM (Zu3d9)
That would be nice and would benefit the whole world.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Cjw at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (B8ZXh)
Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (S8W0R)
Posted by: Baron Bon Mot at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (J3UIw)
LOL
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 10:54 PM (FsuaD)
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So only someone who has served is qualified to give a fuck about veterans? That's not really fair. GWB didn't serve and he gave lots of fucks as far as I know.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (0LHZx)
It's embarrassing.
This is a gamechanger.
The whole race is now reset. "***
As much as I want to believe this, I know better than to get attached to that outcome.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (Wckf4)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Vato el rubes at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (yq4gk)
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He is NOT winning. He hasn't collected 50% of primary votes, his national unfavorables are off the chart.
Posted by: ValJar at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (9mTYi)
Oh, so that means you didn't serve either. Roger that.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Ohiovoter at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (8F/5y)
long, serious look at what they are proposing. Hiring Trump for this job
because you want to give the establishment the middle finger is like
hiring Dahmer because you want to lose a little weight.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (pUDQf)
This.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (NPofj)
You know....I have a friend named gGreg.
He doesn't live in his mom's basement, and I have a reasonable suspicion that his hemorrhoids are smarter than you are.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (Zu3d9)
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He had his moments, but overall horrible.
Actually, I think his SC debate was a lot worse. I was absolutely cringing at his 9/11 comments there, so all in all this seems to be par for the Donald. I think he only comes across as worse tonight because Rubio joined Cruz in attacking him.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (qHgBB)
Rubio can't win even in his own state. He can't even keep his Senate seat.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (NPofj).
He's not running for his Senate seat, so I guess you're right on that. If he can win or not, we'll see. I now hope he does. I might not agree with him on everything, but one needs to be blind to not see how talented he is.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (89I+i)
Jane, he's in Savannah, right. Find someone who will front him a SC address and go to Charleston.
Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2016 10:59 PM (cXiMR)
The fucking VA here is trying to SEND HIM TO CHARLESTON to get help for his back injury (combat injury).
He is in school full time, with a job, and cannot travel FIVE hours roundtrip to see a doctor in Charleston.
He's coming out of pocket to pay monthly to see a chiropractor. The VA SUCKS.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (MNgU2)
What's the exact wording?
Because how would you exonerate the IRS from that accusation? Because ... we can't. They have targeted people for political stances, and been used by this Obama regime against his political opponents.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (uURQL)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:04 PM (rwI+c)
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Which is fine by them, they aren't conservatives either.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 25, 2016 11:04 PM (9mTYi)
Hope you like deuce, deuce and a half-ers.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 25, 2016 10:55 PM (ZMZ2g)
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Hey!
Posted by: Emmie, former blue jeans model at February 25, 2016 11:04 PM (ezXrF)
Posted by: Baron Bon Mot at February 25, 2016 11:04 PM (J3UIw)
Trump supporters won't care about how he performed in what everyone agrees are clown shows and food fights.
Most of them will not have watched, those that did will be slow to change their minds, as most of us are concerning our beliefs.
In that time, he'll likely say something they like, and it's all good again.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 25, 2016 11:04 PM (kKHcp)
He had an up and down night. The problem is, a night where Trump merely took some hits isn't enough for The Narrative. So it has to be that Trump got DESTROYED, and he had NO comebacks or good lines, he was TERRIBLE and THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING. THIS RACE IS JUST STARTING.
Etc, etc.
That shit was pathetic a month ago. Now? Now it's just delusional.
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (/IrCS)
Posted by: donna at February 25, 2016 10:58 PM (/dSsq)
like someone else said above, he always seems to have a bad night, but yet it means nothing
we shall see
it won't be easy to determine, because Texas should be Cruz's state. If Trump actually wins Texas, then the debate clearly did nothing. If he loses, it will be tough to call, unless it is close.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Ohiovoter at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM
Welcome to the forum, Governor Kasich!
Posted by: gewa76 at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (dgti/)
Do not underestimate just how widespread and deep the anger against the establishment has become. "
The Force is strong here.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (7O3sA)
I was confident that you and I are on the same page.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (3QjYY)
Yeah, yeah, by conventional measures, his campaign is just plain stupid.
But if it's stupid and it works, then it isn't stupid.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (lutOX)
Except that no one, least of all the evangelicals, believes that Trump is a strong Christian. It is a transparently false claim.
Dunno if it will hurt him, but I doubt it will help him any.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (bZ7mE)
I remember as a kid a long time ago when my favorite team the Redskins played the Raiders in the Super Bowl. Being a kid I kept seeing moments when the "game changed" yet when I look back on it now...it was just a beat down...from the first to the fourth quarter.
This "moment of change" was in the early fourth quarter when the Redskins were already down by a lot, but had recovered a fumble by Raiders deep in their territory. Game Change!
Then the Redskins gained nine yards in four downs with John Riggins getting stuffed the backfield to complete the "tease of change". Then Marcus Allen did something and rest is a fuzzy nightmare.
Posted by: William Eaton at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (q52Ma)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (pUDQf)
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Honestly I wish Trump haters would take a long serious look at what they are proposing. Doing the exact same thing they did in 1996 2008 and 2012 and expecting a different result.
Something about insanity and repeating things....
You've elected RINO fucks for decades and they have constantly fucked you. Why do you keep wanting to reward them?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (0LHZx)<<<
He was in the Texas National Guard. Flew one of the most challenging jets around. Not combat... but dis serve.
Posted by: everyone but Dan Rather at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (H9MG5)
Also, he wanted to ban dogs and strap tampons on car roofs.
I may not be remembering precisely. Something along those lines.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (zOTsN)
fuck about veterans? That's not really fair. GWB didn't serve and he
gave lots of fucks as far as I know.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (0LHZx)
W didn't try to kick veterans off his street cause they were lowering the property values : http://nypost.com/2004/06/18/trump-to-mayor-boot-fifth-ave-peddlers/
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (NPofj)
But you think we can afford de facto amnesty,
which would be accomplished in the first year of a Rubio administration
with the support of the Republican-controlled Congress?
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (FohCt)
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I really really doubt de facto or de jure amnesty will pass in the next Congress, but I surely think it's more affordable than Trump or Hillary.
I mean, my biggest problem with amnesty is that in the long-run it can lead to Presidents like Trump or Hillary.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (89I+i)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo
Some would consider serving the Texas Air National Guard as service.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (62Vup)
So only someone who has served is qualified to
give a fuck about veterans? That's not really fair. GWB didn't serve and
he gave lots of fucks as far as I know.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (0LHZx)
Moo Moo, go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (FsuaD)
dear god i hope you are right.
Posted by: darkiguana at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (ohcKY)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (zOTsN)
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This
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There is no way you could convince me that Rubio is a better choice.
Cruz yes, but the man is fucking tone deaf. He cannot win a general election. I wanted him to be king shit of fuck mountain but he just doesn't have the political common sense to pull it off.
We don't have any other choices.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: buzzion at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (zOTsN)
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In one poll, which is an infamous outlier.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: everyone but Dan Rather at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 11:07 PM (Onoqd)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 11:07 PM (21hN3)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (FsuaD)
Air National Guard units do get activated and do fight in foreign conflicts
now GWB did not fight in a foreign conflict, but being in the Guard did not preclude it
some of our very best fighter pilots were in the Guard
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (zOTsN)
One man'e terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Trump is a bit of a wildcard granted, but dahmer, really? I guess a Hitler comparison would be too cliche, so we're going with gay serial killers.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (ZMZ2g)
Oh...so we should ignore the law because they are vets?
Bullshit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (Zu3d9)
He also volunteered for service in Vietnam but was turned down (plenty of fighter pilots already there), IIRC.
Posted by: Grey Fox at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (bZ7mE)
972 I will take a president as "ineffective" as Reagan
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:02 PM (zOTsN)
Perhaps and you will take another Obama being elected 28 years later?
Reagan did many good things, but ultimately he failed.
Obama is proof of that. Paul Ryan is proof of that. Mitt Romney is proof of that.
And so is Donald Trump.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (MQEz6)
I know that the VA should be taking care of this but I suggest you contact the Semper FI Fund to see if they can provide any assistance.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (MNgU2)
serious look at what they are proposing. Doing the exact same thing they
did in 1996 2008 and 2012 and expecting a different result.
Something about insanity and repeating things....
You've elected RINO fucks for decades and they have constantly fucked you. Why do you keep wanting to reward them?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:05 PM (0LHZx)
Whatever this year is it isn't 96, 2008 or 2012. We finally have a principled conservative in the race. Tantruming and electing a progressive Democrat instead would move us waaaaaaaaay backward.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at February 25, 2016 11:01 PM (21hN3)
Yes, Indeed. We are ready for a change.
Posted by: ALH at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (Z56vq)
Not a Trumpkin -- I have no dog in the hunt -- but Trump's VA reform plan, which is basically care-anywhere vouchers handed out to vets, makes more sense than anything else said about the VA in the last fifty years.
The Republican establishment VA reform plan is always some variant on "spend more money on the corrupt incompetent VA as it exists", which is not cutting the mustard any longer.
Posted by: torquewrench at February 25, 2016 11:09 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Johnson1213 at February 25, 2016 10:37 PM (+I10c)
That whizzing sound was the joke going right over your head.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 25, 2016 11:09 PM (afR/C)
Posted by: Yip at February 25, 2016 11:09 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:09 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 25, 2016 11:09 PM (vb33c)
And he probably should. I doubt the outcome will be that.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (7O3sA)
Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (5HDxT)
Obama is proof of that.
This is just nonsense on stilts.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (rwI+c)
Cruz yes, but the man is fucking tone deaf. He cannot win a general
election. I wanted him to be king shit of fuck mountain but he just
doesn't have the political common sense to pull it off.
We don't have any other choices.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (qHgBB)
He might if all the Trump supporters quit pre-supposing he's unelectable and actually supported him. He can win the general. The polls against Hillary say just that. It's only Trump supporters, in their zeal to get Trump in the general, who are pushing that supposition.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: JackStraw at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (/tuJf)
Bullshit.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (Zu3d9)
What the fuck are you talking about. The veterans in question had legal permits to peddle their goods where they were.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (NPofj)
long, serious look at what they are proposing. Hiring Trump for this job
because you want to give the establishment the middle finger is like
hiring Dahmer because you want to lose a little weight.
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Get Cruz to the point he's competitive, and I'll jump ship.
But I will not risk Rubio winning.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (ZbV+0)
*ponders which candidate is which*
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (LiMbk)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:08 PM (NPofj)
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Oh yea for sure. Kasich and Rubio are super duper principled conservatives. Well when they speak in English anyway.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:11 PM (0LHZx)
He's coming out of pocket to pay monthly to see a chiropractor. The VA SUCKS.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 25, 2016 11:03 PM (FsuaD)
I think the VA should be abolished and veterans should be given vouchers for private medical care.
And I also think that all of us are going to have to think about making arrangements with our doctors to pay out of pocket in case we lose our insurance. I've already mentioned it to my primary care physician, and she seemed receptive to it.
Of course, that might be OK for routine stuff, but probably less so for serious illnesses.
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 11:11 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: jake at February 25, 2016 11:11 PM (Onoqd)
I know your establishment mindset won't let you
see it, but this is a really subtle attack that will jive with a lot of
the voters who hate the government and hate the political class. And it
works with evangelicals. Trump is a very good politician.
Posted by: greg at February 25, 2016 11:00 PM (+UPoY)
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So, in 2004, with Bush in power, the IRS decided to start persecuting strong Christians.
And out of all the strong Christians in the country, they started with Donald "Two Corinthians" Trump, the NY liberal with multiple infidelities.
If Trump supporters really believe stuff like this, they're even more naive than I thought.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:11 PM (89I+i)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (vb33c)
Guard is 100% legit. 19th and 20th SFG are through the guard. They deploy on the same ops and bleed right next to their active brothers. No difference whatsoever. The pilot of the Chinook that killed all those SEALs in 2011 was a guard pilot.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (VjlMj)
We all want change.
But even the inter-war Germans weren't stupid enough to grant loudmouth fucktards like Goebbels or Ernst Rohm actual power.
Point: Obama is change. That's a fact. We need the right kind of change.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (ZMZ2g)
I'll go one better:
Close the VA. Too many vets are killed by their incompetence and lack of any interest in actually doing a good job.
Divide the VA budget by the total number of vets it supports and you will be shocked at how much we piss away on substandard care for them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (Zu3d9)
Red, calm down.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (7O3sA)
Enlighten us?
Posted by: LizLem at February 25, 2016 11:13 PM (LiMbk)
1034 Reagan did many good things, but ultimately he failed.
Obama is proof of that.
This is just nonsense on stilts.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (rwI+c)
How so?
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:13 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
The good docs are in Charleston, Savannah is merely OK. I think what he will need is one visit to Charleston to get referred out of the system because Savannah isn't able to support him. The problem is back issues are a bitch to diagnosis, even outside the VA you can go thru several docs before they figure it out.
I think there are chiropractors who are VA certified, if there are any in Savannah I bet they know the paperwork drill.
Posted by: Jean at February 25, 2016 11:13 PM (cXiMR)
election. I wanted him to be king shit of fuck mountain but he just
doesn't have the political common sense to pull it off.
We don't have any other choices.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (qHgBB)
He
might if all the Trump supporters quit pre-supposing he's unelectable
and actually supported him. He can win the general. The polls against
Hillary say just that. It's only Trump supporters, in their zeal to get
Trump in the general, who are pushing that supposition.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:10 PM (pUDQf)
Burn It Down has been pointed multiple times to the RCP head to head polls that show Cruz can beat Hillary but Trump cannot. He just keeps coming back to the same stupid disproven talking point.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (NPofj)
Luntz's Dunces say it's RUBIO, so maybe reset. Pool Boy wins their votes
Posted by: ladies and gentlemen.. at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (8CdUx)
But it's still a five-way race, and we're the party that actually believes in intellectual diversity. If either Mario or Tom dropped out right now, each of the other remaining candidates would inherit some of his supporters.
Including Trump, who is coming really close in several states to that 50% mark that would render him inevitable.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (0OG8D)
Yeah he cut taxes and I'm glad he did. But 25 years from now tax rates will be back where they were in 1980.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (0LHZx)
"Try" big government?
Is the current result of decades of R control of the House your idea of limited government?
The GOPe is a fake opposition to slowly give the Democrats what they want. That's what conservatives have conserved - the growth of the leviathan state and its power over all aspects of society.
Trump is not a savior - but he doesn't have the track record of failure the GOPe has.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (uURQL)
It's reductio absurdum. Then Washington failed, Jefferson, Lincoln and Ike, all failures.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Joanne at February 25, 2016 11:15 PM (hgBpU)
Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2016 11:15 PM (sdxPm)
Posted by: Skeezix at February 25, 2016 11:15 PM (WnCSK)
Posted by: rickl at February 25, 2016 11:11 PM (sdi6R)
I said that first.
The fact that your comment happens to be before mine is simply evidence that you stole the keys to Ace's time machine.
I think that is dirty pool.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:15 PM (Zu3d9)
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I actually believed he was electable even when some of my hardcore conservative relatives thought otherwise, because I don't think his being unlikable is really a factor.
The factor is that he ran a really, really bad campaign that was only tailored for a specific bloc within the base, and even then the message didn't resonate because unlike Trump, he wasn't able to tap into the anger we feel against the establishment. He's running on a platform that doesn't really make sense (like abolishing the IRS), and when he speaks of border security (finally) he comes across as a Johnny come lately.
So overall I think Cruz would lose, not because he's unprincipled, but because of his poor campaign strategy.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:15 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:16 PM (zOTsN)
Cruz said that McConnell is a liar.
In my book that is the most successful senator in a generation.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:17 PM (Zu3d9)
Why yes I was asleep during the Bush administration. Why don't you define Neoconservatism for me.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 10:45 PM (MNgU2)
There are different opinions as to the definition. In my opinion it is quite simply an interventionist foreign policy related to the idea of "liberal internationalism" but rather than the "international" part you have America being the world leader or "policeman" as some say, trying to cobble together as large an alliance together as possible to protect what are perceived to be American interests (like Iraq when "Old Europe" opposed us but "New Europe" supported the American invasion) but sold as doing the world or region of the world a favor.
In terms of domestic policy I don't think there is any orthodox platform other than increased military spending but George W. Bush obviously increased the size of the federal government to a point where it had never been before in American history while Obama has kept expanding it. In my opinion neo-cons do not support limited government and 8 years of the W. Bush administration, I think, has shown that opinion to be the correct one - education, health care, the welfare state, the police state, needless military spending as a result of needless wars - Bush expanded the size and scope of the federal government to the greatest point it had ever been at until Obama succeeded him.
Posted by: Hump for Trump at February 25, 2016 11:17 PM (8EJen)
Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2016 11:15 PM (sdxPm)
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Who cares? I'm not being snarky. An "accomplishment" in the senate means some 2000 page bill with your name attached to it that increases govt power. The fact that Cruz has zero such "accomplishments" is a plus for me.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:17 PM (0LHZx)
Let's blame Lincoln for Teddy Roosevelt's Bull-Moose party and Wilson's election! Why didn't Abe see that coming?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 11:18 PM (P8951)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (NPofj)
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Those polls don't prove horseshit.
The reason Cruz is doing better is lack of name recognition. Once the media has a chance to define him until he has close to the same recognition as Trump those same polls would show him down by 12.
Wake up to reality.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:18 PM (qHgBB)
Posted by: Bebe Dahl at February 25, 2016 11:18 PM (yNyJy)
It's reductio absurdum. Then Washington failed, Jefferson, Lincoln and Ike, all failures.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (rwI+c)
No. Reagan truly did fail. His job was to turn the USA away from Socialism.
He failed to do that.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:18 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (Zu3d9)
Not to mention all of the volunteers.
Unpaid volunteers. In droves. Why? Where is the money going?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 11:18 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: rexbatt at February 25, 2016 11:19 PM (woA40)
Posted by: Cowboy at February 25, 2016 11:19 PM (0VO5Q)
He defeated the Soviet Union. Damn, you have high expectations of one man.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: rexbatt at February 25, 2016 11:19 PM (woA40)
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You're right. Let's vote for esteemed enlightened people like Paul Ryan, Jon Boner, Mitch McConnell and Mario Rubio. They know lots of stuff....like how to fuck over conservatives.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (0LHZx)
I really hope they work out a joint ticket after March 1. Time to end this absolute nonsense of electing a clueless morally unfit socialist because the current guys aren't conservative enough. By that logic, we'd be electing stalinists in 20 years.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (89I+i)
How are you able to make any money with the brain that's contained in your head. Or maybe you're like the Left that gives Gorbachev all the credit for the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (7O3sA)
Deep deep breath... it would help if Trump supporters would actually acknowledge facts on the ground NOW instead of harping on the last election. I agree the choices sucked and were RINO last time. Now is not then.
Also, this "unelectable" argument with NO acknowledgement that Trump is not beating Hillary in the head to head polls is less than fully reflective of the facts.
It is very hard to discuss issues calmly with people who argue dishonestly.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (NPofj)
Tell me, how does Tom Cruz get those people to go out and vote for him on the first Tuesday of November?
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 25, 2016 11:21 PM (0OG8D)
No, neo-conservatism at the hands of the GOP has failed. And the fact that Trump is winning PROVES that. Even if it was true conservatism, if it loses out to socialism, then yes, that means it FAILED.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:21 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:21 PM (0LHZx)
Divide the VA budget by the total number of vets it supports and you will be shocked at how much we piss away on substandard care for them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (Zu3d9)
CBD I respectfully do not agree with you. While I honor our veterans one and all, I have watched motr than one family member *imho* shamefully abuse them. Cleansing is needed in most areas of our government.
Posted by: FCF at February 25, 2016 11:21 PM (kejii)
people like Paul Ryan, Jon Boner, Mitch McConnell and Mario Rubio. They
know lots of stuff....like how to fuck over conservatives.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (0LHZx)
None of those men are running for president this year.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:22 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Skeezix at February 25, 2016 11:22 PM (WnCSK)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:22 PM (rwI+c)
1054
Seriously, how can ANYONE vote for Trump? He doesn't know anything about anything?
Posted by: rexbatt at February 25, 2016 11:19 PM (woA40)
I think you've answered your own question. Some people like to vote for people they identify with at a personal level.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:22 PM (89I+i)
1056 No. Reagan truly did fail. His job was to turn the USA away from Socialism.
He defeated the Soviet Union. Damn, you have high expectations of one man.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (rwI+c)
Yeas he did. The USSR that lurked here escaped his grasp.
Thus, Obama.
He failed.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:22 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Buckdarmha at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (KjEi7)
It is very hard to discuss issues calmly with people who argue dishonestly.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (NPofj)
_____
How about this poll?
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/269702-hillary-trails-trump-head-to-head-poll
Clinton loses to Cruz by 1% and loses to Trump by 2%
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (89I+i)
Cruz is a straight talker.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (qCMvj)
Trump is going to wear people down quickly with his shtick. We're not fighting over the 30 percent of solid R or D in either camp. We're fighting over the middle.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (pUDQf)
He failed to do that.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:18 PM (MQEz6)
******
Sure. Cuz Presidenting for 8 years means your ideas are supposed to stick forever or you're a failure. Good grief.....
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (j4/d2)
Yes...good ole Mittens...as usual a "day late and a dollar short". He could have also beaten Obama, but he only did what he needed to do after the election was over.
Sort of the story of the Modern GOP, good title for their history when it is written.
"Day Late and a Pesos Short: The Story of the Fall of the GOP with a introduction by Emperor Trump V. Trumpious Press, Trump City, 2095."
I will be a great read for the book blogging...etc.
Posted by: William Eaton at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (q52Ma)
He defeated the Soviet Union. Damn, you have high expectations of one man.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (rwI+c)
Cause feelz
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (7GQM/)
What facts would you like acknowledged?
Rubio is a liar, can't be trusted no matter what his pretty mouth says, debate over. Cruz is an abrasive preacher. Debate over. GOP needs to be whitewashed no matter what. Trump is only guy.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (VjlMj)
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265330-some-dems-would-defect-for-trump-poll-shows
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (8qoUN)
I don't understand your comment.
My point is that the VA sucks, is obscenely expensive, and we should stop wasting all of that money.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:25 PM (Zu3d9)
1075 No. Reagan truly did fail. His job was to turn the USA away from Socialism.
He failed to do that.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:18 PM (MQEz6)
******
Sure. Cuz Presidenting for 8 years means your ideas are supposed to stick forever or you're a failure. Good grief.....
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (j4/d2)
As a measure of success, yes.
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:25 PM (MQEz6)
It is very hard to discuss issues calmly with people who argue dishonestly.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (NPofj)
So true. It's, well, it's like Trump in the debates. Infuriating.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:25 PM (pUDQf)
people like Paul Ryan, Jon Boner, Mitch McConnell and Mario Rubio. They
know lots of stuff....like how to fuck over conservatives.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (0LHZx)
None of those men are running for president this year.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:22 PM (NPofj)
_____
Want to try that again?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:23 PM (0LHZx)
That is one poll... every other one Trump loses. RCP running average of polls == trump loses.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (sdxPm)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (hgpSN)
Trump is not a savior - but he doesn't have the track record of failure the GOPe has.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 25, 2016 11:14 PM (uURQL)
But what evidence do you have that he is going to stop the growth of the leviathan state? He's not a small government guy either. Jees, he was attacking Cruz tonight with exactly the same argument Hillary or Bernie would use: "You're heartless and want people to die in the streets!"
Like someone here said yesterday, "I'm so mad at the GOPe fake conservatives that that I'm going to vote for a fake conservative" doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Trump at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (MWYP0)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:27 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 25, 2016 11:27 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: ThunderB at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (zOTsN)
*******************
In one poll, which is an infamous outlier.
Posted by: Burn It Down at February 25, 2016 11:06 PM (qHgBB)
They put the same poll out before each state primary and just change the header to name the new state.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 11:27 PM (T78UI)
pretty mouth says, debate over. Cruz is an abrasive preacher. Debate
over. GOP needs to be whitewashed no matter what. Trump is only guy.
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (VjlMj)
Thank you for proving my damn point (for you, Kill, I won't add the name that is trying to crawl out of my fingers).
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:27 PM (NPofj)
Hobbes doesn't account for Trumps; Cruz' and Rubios fit neatly into his rubric.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:28 PM (hgpSN)
HOLY CRAP hot air live debate thread THIRTY-FIVE total comments and 6 forwards... Hot Air appears to have committed suicide.
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (8qoUN)
Now that's a business plan.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:28 PM (pUDQf)
Compelling counter-argument
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:28 PM (VjlMj)
First step,try it. We certainly haven't since Reagan, and before that...Coolidge
Posted by: Buckdarmha at February 25, 2016 11:28 PM (KjEi7)
Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Schlafly
Phyllis Schlafly
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:29 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:25 PM (MQEz6)
*****
Who have been successful Presidents then, in your view?
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 25, 2016 11:30 PM (j4/d2)
George W. Bush was the scion of the Republican Establishment, who espoused "compassionate conservatism", and when running for president was able to join monolithic Establishment support with early support from the evangelical community, propelling him to a dominant position in the race after victory in the Iowa caucus. Without taking issue with your characterization of the Bush administration's specific policies, why are you using the term neoconservatism to define it?
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at February 25, 2016 11:30 PM (FohCt)
Reagan was a president - not a miracle worker or a dictator.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 11:30 PM (P8951)
HOLY CRAP hot air live debate thread THIRTY-FIVE total comments and 6 forwards... Hot Air appears to have committed suicide.
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (8qoUN)
Glad those derps didn't make it over here.
Posted by: Mimzey at February 25, 2016 11:31 PM (aRUb8)
Um, you mean it has too many brown people?
I think there is a robo call floating around about that too..hmm...
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at February 25, 2016 11:31 PM (DoY1a)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:31 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 25, 2016 11:31 PM (7GQM/)
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:22 PM (NPofj)
_____
Want to try that again?
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (0LHZx)
You got me Moo, I hate Dondi so much that I apparently am blinded by his name.
Fine, none of those guys BUT Dondi is running. Cruz is not establishment and he is not GOPe so don't pretend that the guy who was a progressive Democrat for his entire life until he wanted office as a Republican is your only choice.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:32 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (vb33c)
I agree with that and will never vote for Rubio again.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 11:32 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:33 PM (hgpSN)
I wonder if Rome had this problem.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:33 PM (pUDQf)
[the remote control, not the gun]
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 25, 2016 11:33 PM (+O9YB)
Reverse racism, and you wonder why you're losing?
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (VjlMj)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (hgpSN)
Divide
the VA budget by the total number of vets it supports and you will be
shocked at how much we piss away on substandard care for them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (Zu3d9)
Just give them the Federal BC/BS program (capital region)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (T78UI)
If Cruz just said that, then you can see why us Trump supporters aren't thrilled at the prospect of Cruz.
He does this snakey kind of shit too much. Remember his TPP opposition, which he changed at the absolute minute, just when his vote was no longer necessary?
Remember his opposition to illegal immigration, and then trying to massively boost H1B visas?
No more of this shit. I'll gamble on Trump. It may be a gamble, but it's better than certain doom with Rubio or Cruz.
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (/IrCS)
rejoinder for every comment rubio makes is simply, "gang of eight."
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 25, 2016 11:12 PM (vb33c)
I agree with that and will never vote for Rubio again.
-----
Dittoes on that.
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (+O9YB)
Posted by: Rastus at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (VjlMj)
*****
There is no such thing. There is only racism.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (j4/d2)
Posted by: kraken at February 25, 2016 11:35 PM (sdxPm)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:36 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 11:36 PM (8olbK)
You don't have to show the math. You just have to win the argument.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:36 PM (hgpSN)
He does this snakey kind of shit too much. Remember his TPP
opposition, which he changed at the absolute minute, just when his vote
was no longer necessary?
Remember his opposition to illegal immigration, and then trying to massively boost H1B visas?
No more of this shit. I'll gamble on Trump. It may be a gamble, but it's better than certain doom with Rubio or Cruz.
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 11:34 PM (/IrCS)
Go do research and get actual true facts and then you can come back and talk to the grown ups.
Toddle off.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:36 PM (NPofj)
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 25, 2016 11:37 PM (j4/d2)
Posted by: evil_bun_bun at February 25, 2016 11:24 PM (8qoUN)
Capt. Ed tweeted out some snide and classless comments about the readers in the farewell thread. He said they were being drama queens, or words to that effect, which was a shitty way to treat people who have been reading your blog for years.
Wonder how snide and superior he feels now that he's practically talking to himself over there?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 11:37 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 25, 2016 11:38 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:38 PM (hgpSN)
You don't have to show the math. You just have to win the argument.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:36 PM (hgpSN)
You are right that totally wins except for non-blind people who know there are no people "dying on the street" and fed up people who have been trying to get rid of Obamacare since it was passed.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 25, 2016 11:39 PM (NPofj)
I wish he would apologize so some of those Hotair readers would go back.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:40 PM (MNgU2)
Posted by: Concerned Citizen at February 25, 2016 11:41 PM (DoY1a)
Sorry to say. Wish Cruz would move up though the media will be all on their knees for Rubot.
Posted by: NJRob at February 25, 2016 11:41 PM (o1h4V)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:41 PM (hgpSN)
I
really hope they work out a joint ticket after March 1. Time to end
this absolute nonsense of electing a clueless morally unfit socialist
because the current guys aren't conservative enough. By that logic, we'd
be electing stalinists in 20 years.
Posted by: Abali at February 25, 2016 11:20 PM (89I+i)
So Cruz really is an amnesty supporter.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 11:41 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: My Ass Is Chapped I Rubs The Lotion On at February 25, 2016 11:42 PM (R5lpX)
People care if you care (or say that you care) that you give a shit.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:42 PM (hgpSN)
Posted by: Bebe Dahl's Elvis doll at February 25, 2016 11:42 PM (yNyJy)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:43 PM (hgpSN)
They're all bought and paid for, specially Rubio.
Except for Carson, all of them have been involved in government one way or another, and look at where we stand as a nation.
Time to let a real business man try to fix what all of these stupid, stupid people have done to our country.
Posted by: Jose Bnitez at February 25, 2016 11:43 PM (XUlog)
Tom Cruz personally calling for doubling legal immigration and quintupling H1-B visas...
https://youtu.be/MrNWwgx5Cus?t=1m14s
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 25, 2016 11:43 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:45 PM (hgpSN)
This...100%
I like Cruz as much as I like Trump. I will admit I can live with either as president, but Rubio is a nonstarter with me.
If Cruz (or Trump) does that then they deserve getting what is coming to them for allying with a worthless, back stabbing, moron like Rubio. If Rubio is the new face of conservatism, then I am not conservative. Frankly considering how the term "conservative" (see examples like AP and Ed at Hotair) is being used today by so many it would be liberating to me.
The Rubio vision of conservatism is not in America's best interests if it wants to survive as a nation state by 2030.
Posted by: William Eaton at February 25, 2016 11:45 PM (q52Ma)
He's the only contender who has won a truly tough election. It was a nearly unwinnable election against a far better funded and well known candidate.
Cruz is the only one with actual politics chops. Against Hillary or Sanders the nation would have a choice between fixing things or making them worse, and that choice would be intelligently, positively articulated.
Posted by: Dustin at February 25, 2016 11:45 PM (a7sQX)
Instead of trying to win on the merits, he can't let it get that far, because he is scared he would lose.
Posted by: doug at February 25, 2016 11:46 PM (RoIDw)
None of the
others convinced me they could do a better job than the Donald.
Posted by: Jose Bnitez at February 25, 2016 11:43 PM (XUlog)
I don't even...seriously dude. WTF?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:46 PM (pUDQf)
Yuuuuuge
I'm Rich
You Lie
Liar, Liar, Liar
Not drinking the Kool-aid.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 25, 2016 11:46 PM (7GQM/)
I am curious what the intent of your nic is......
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 25, 2016 11:46 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Major Rage at February 25, 2016 11:47 PM (e8iK4)
Posted by: Mega at February 25, 2016 11:47 PM (JwLCI)
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:48 PM (hgpSN)
The Horde mustn't let itself fall into disarray and discord over which arsonist will have the honor and privilege of tossing the final match.
That said, let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools contend.
And pass me the valu-rite and some hobo jerky, whydontcha?
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 25, 2016 11:48 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Soona at February 25, 2016 11:49 PM (4zs/Q)
Because what does opposition to illegal immigration have to do with proposing increase in H1B visas?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:51 PM (MNgU2)
HOLY CRAP hot air live debate thread THIRTY-FIVE total comments and 6 forwards... Hot Air appears to have committed suicide.
>>>Glad those derps didn't make it over here.
Posted by: Mimzey
are you the Mimzey from Hot Air?
Posted by: concrete girl at February 25, 2016 11:51 PM (0KgAM)
Posted by: Jess at February 25, 2016 11:51 PM (8olbK)
Both need the kindling. Some will do; others will participate after the fact.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:52 PM (hgpSN)
I've been pretty combative and full of vitriol towards Trump and my fellow Morons lately.
I got off my computer yesterday feeling frustrated and disappointed by all the Trump support. I feel it's foolish to put so much expectation and hope in that man. What bothered me the most is my attitude toward you guys. AosHQ and you Morons are my little slice of heaven I have everyday from all the crap that happens in the political world and I love the camaraderie here.
Point is I'm sorry for being such a bastard lately. You guys are weird and wonderful and so what if you guys like Trump? Ace doesn't call us Morons for nothing, right? So here's my heartfelt apology to the Horde, I'm sorry to those I've pissed off. I'm sorry to the lurkers who've been turned off by it.
With that said I'll tell you my feelings on Trump. As another commented on another site put it: "One can like a man, but hate him as a king."
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 25, 2016 11:52 PM (UnJ7w)
JackStraw
-------------------------------
I know you're a big fan, Jack. But first of all, Romney didn't do anything today other than read someone else's script. Romney is another establishment hack, doing his diligence in being a safe (ie not on any ballot) mouthpiece for the establishment.
Same enemy that has been coming at Trump for 9 months. What is different today?
Posted by: Mega at February 25, 2016 11:52 PM (JwLCI)
I'm all for that; if vets and Congressmen were on the same healthcare
plan, you could be damn sure Congress would move mountains to see that
the plan works well.
Posted by: at February 25, 2016 11:38 PM (0OG8D)
Yes. And State Dept and other Fed employees overseas.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 25, 2016 11:53 PM (T78UI)
You can't have the former without the latter, though it's better to bet on the former hiring the latter than the obverse.
Reagan was an architect. Carter was (literally) an engineer.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:54 PM (hgpSN)
I can tell who RNC supports by emails that are directly in my inbox on my Apple products, I have NBC owned or is it Comcast owns NBC? Either way, suddenly I have been receiving emails from Mario & I've never supported him. I had three today-Thursday & two yesterday.
I have to rescue all emails from the only one I suppost Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Carol at February 25, 2016 11:54 PM (sj3Ax)
The grownups, aka, 'The guys who are running out of candidates to switch their loyalty to when their first, second, and third picks go down in flames'.
Cruz was a TPP supporter until the last minute. The defense of Cruz's H1B stuff was a joke meant to fool those LIVs.
C'mon guys, tell me how Rubio was never, ever in favor of amnesty. He only wanted to do it because - what was the line at the time - 'If we don't do it, Obama will and it will be worse.'
Lie some more instead of answering the criticisms. Give even more reasons to gamble on Trump.
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 11:54 PM (/IrCS)
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 25, 2016 11:54 PM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:55 PM (MNgU2)
That's it. That's the punchline. Try the veal.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:55 PM (hgpSN)
But that's a LIV position. The adults know better.
You can tell who the adults are, because their shirts are dripping with Kool-Aid stains from all the guzzling!
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 11:55 PM (/IrCS)
Both need the kindling. Some will do; others will participate after the fact.
Posted by: General Zod at February 25, 2016 11:52 PM (hgpSN)
***
I'm the angry, drunken lout dancing on the edges of the fire-light, chatting up the younger 'ettes, and generally making the most of a terrible situation.
But I'd go for some 'smores roasted over the coals of what-had-been.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at February 25, 2016 11:56 PM (lutOX)
"Remember his opposition to illegal immigration, and then trying to massively boost H1B visas?"
"Go do research and get actual true facts and then you can come back and talk to the grown ups."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 25, 2016 11:56 PM (0OG8D)
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:56 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 25, 2016 11:57 PM (MbrzC)
It is a "Who Would You Vote For?" poll.
This is obvious since the votes start coming in before the debate even starts and continue with similar percentages for all candidates from start to finish.
There is no reaction within the percentages to anything that happens during the debate.
I be most of the voters don't watch the debate at all.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 25, 2016 11:57 PM (3myMJ)
I get it. But Orientation is over. You need a new schtick now.
Posted by: Mega at February 25, 2016 11:58 PM (JwLCI)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:55 PM (MNgU2)
*****
As obsessed as you are in your TDS, I'm sure you are.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 25, 2016 11:58 PM (j4/d2)
Trump is supported by the media for ratings. He only says same things no new lines.
I can tell who RNC supports by emails that are directly in my inbox
on my Apple products, I have NBC owned or is it Comcast owns NBC? Either
way, suddenly I have been receiving emails from Mario I've never
supported him. I had three today-Thursday two yesterday.
I have to rescue all emails from the only one I suppost Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Carol at February 25, 2016 11:54 PM (sj3Ax)
One thing political pundits will be talking about for ages, thanks to Trump: How to get massive campaign coverage without paying a dime.
For that, Trump is a master. Maybe Presidential elections will quit costing a billion dollars after this. Of course, the third guy will be reduced to really weird fetish displays to make the news cycle, but hey, that's twenty years from now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 25, 2016 11:58 PM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:55 PM (MNgU2)
Math is not your friend. Neither are most poll internals.
Posted by: Meremortal at February 25, 2016 11:59 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 25, 2016 11:55 PM (MNgU2)
Oh yeah. My cousin, who participated in the Nevada caucus, is a Trump-ette who was a fervent Paul-bot.
And she's totally nutso and sends me emails all the time about how GMO food is a government plot. 40 years ago, it would have been fluoride.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 11:59 PM (P8951)
Posted by: Bebe Dahl's Howdy Doody doll at February 26, 2016 12:00 AM (yNyJy)
Mega, I've read a few of your posts. We disagree. Fine.
But just as I read your posts with an open mind, read ours with an open mind and consider we could be right.
Cruz, Rubio and Romney aren't just taking random walks around political space. Their vectors are aligned, for one reason or another and Trump will feel the effects.
Romney still has quite a bit of good will built up with the 60 percent of Republican leaning voters and Independents who aren't Trump brown shirts that can be used to tying this mess up.
Posted by: Uriah Heep at February 26, 2016 12:00 AM (ZMZ2g)
do you want to be call anson instead?
Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2016 12:00 AM (0KgAM)
Posted by: eman at February 25, 2016 11:56 PM (MQEz6)
*****
Unanswered question up above for you.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:01 AM (j4/d2)
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 25, 2016 11:58 PM (j4/d2)
No, the point was that Trump supporters are blindly supporting Trump no matter how bad he does in the debates nor how bad his answers to questions are. To that point, you answered by accusing him of Trump Derangement Syndrome. So, yeah...I'll just let that sink in.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:02 AM (pUDQf)
Yeah, I don't see it happening. I remember you from here or another site. Good to see you again.
Posted by: Mega at February 26, 2016 12:02 AM (JwLCI)
I'm simply not interested in that BS.
Posted by: Carol at February 26, 2016 12:02 AM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: the Dude at February 26, 2016 12:03 AM (lAXNl)
Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2016 12:00 AM (0KgAM)
Lol, I saw that too. I'll answer to any name the Head Ewok calls me.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 12:03 AM (UnJ7w)
http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2016/02/marco-rubio-with-curious-late-night.html?m=1
And here's Rubio loving him some individual mandate.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431935/marco-rubio-healthcare-individual-mandate
Posted by: rebel flounder at February 26, 2016 12:04 AM (3dOE/)
I think you're wrong, but we'll have to see. In fact, given that the star chamber that should include Romney and the other misfit toys, one would've expected their "effects" to have had much more impact before now.
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:04 AM (hgpSN)
Seems this thing is still alive, so I'll cheat and ask for some help.
Was cooking a really nice whole chicken with meyer lemon zest and shallot gravy on the gas grill. So didn't follow the comments in the first thread.
I'm fairly taken aback by ace's take. Campaign reset? Huh? Those are rare, period. But Trump has hardly dazzled in prior debates, and the effect on his support has been hard to detect, if there has been any.
Does anybody who is not mostly just engaging in this tiresome taffy-yank of trashing A while boosting B have a different take on tonite's event?
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:06 AM (QDnY+)
Why, it's almost as if their support for Trump isn't predicated on those things.
People are rooting for an anti-establishment candidate which will tear the established GOP to shreds, and then get baffled when a zinger in a debate doesn't wreak havoc?
Many of us aren't supporting Trump because we think he's trustworthy. We just think he's a better gamble than the alternatives, and he has more guts.
You know what confirms their faith in Trump? Not his debate performance. Not his promises.
It's the panic and lashing out that comes from guys like Romney, Jeb!, and company.
Posted by: Crude at February 26, 2016 12:07 AM (/IrCS)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:08 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:02 AM (pUDQf)
*****
No, the very specific point Max made was to compare Trump supporters to "Paulians". That is what I was responding to. Let that one sink in with you.
Didn't I hear you got disgusted by the lack of anti Trumpism here and flounced in an earlier thread today?
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:08 AM (j4/d2)
Posted by: Niveaxe at February 26, 2016 12:09 AM (M/G2t)
There are 12 states in play on March 1st.
Cruz will eke out Texas.
Trump will run the table on all the rest.
Posted by: franksalterego at February 26, 2016 12:10 AM (Cd+Fa)
So apparently Cruz doesn't believe illegal immigration to be an existential issue. Interesting.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 26, 2016 12:10 AM (jEIZo)
Posted by: Mungo Jerry at February 26, 2016 12:10 AM (oa+dP)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:11 AM (hgpSN)
We all have a, ahem, 'first time.' None of them are good. He had his. It'll pass.
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:13 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: Ralph at February 26, 2016 12:13 AM (DKDOJ)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 26, 2016 12:13 AM (P8951)
That would be my prediction. A single debate isn't going to turn the election on its head, despite what some might fervently wish.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 26, 2016 12:13 AM (jEIZo)
Posted by: concrete girl at February 26, 2016 12:14 AM (0KgAM)
Posted by: Max Power at February 26, 2016 12:15 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: Heddy at February 26, 2016 12:15 AM (GTeFT)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 12:15 AM (7GQM/)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:15 AM (hgpSN)
Trump supporters to "Paulians". That is what I was responding to. Let
that one sink in with you.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:08 AM (j4/d2)
Uh, Paulians defining characteristic was blind allegiance to Paul. Hence, the comment. Let that sink in.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:16 AM (pUDQf)
I did appreciate your joke, but socking anyone who posts here (or a prominent person who might post here) is frowned upon.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 26, 2016 12:16 AM (0OG8D)
So - any takers on reacting to ace's rather atypical take (that this event was a game-changer)? Obviously by Monday we'll all know the answer, but seems somewhat far-fetched to think a debate event will change the outcome of a primary (it's actually rare, the few meaningful examples were in far different contexts). Trump has never been smooth or impressive in these kinds of settings. Why would a "bad" night matter, now?
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:16 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:15 AM (hgpSN)
*****
Bless yowah haht.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:17 AM (j4/d2)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:16 AM (pUDQf)
*****
Well, I mean, sure. Cuz those that oppose teh Donald are not at all Cult like in their obsession.
Bless your heart.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:19 AM (j4/d2)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:19 AM (hgpSN)
Is it enough of a debt to warrant giving him the nomination? I don't know.
Posted by: Jake at February 26, 2016 12:19 AM (YmXuG)
I wish this mattered but I doubt they can be reached. They entered the space ship and have sailed beyond our world.
They aint coming back.
Posted by: petunia at February 26, 2016 12:20 AM (VoCyE)
The grownups, aka, 'The guys who are running out of candidates to
switch their loyalty to when their first, second, and third picks go
down in flames'.
Cruz was a TPP supporter until the last minute. The defense of Cruz's H1B stuff was a joke meant to fool those LIVs.
C'mon guys, tell me how Rubio was never, ever in favor of amnesty.
He only wanted to do it because - what was the line at the time - 'If we
don't do it, Obama will and it will be worse.'
Lie some more instead of answering the criticisms. Give even more reasons to gamble on Trump.
Posted by: Crude at February 25, 2016 11:54 PM (/IrCS)
TPP hasn't even been voted on you dolt.
But feel free to attack Rubio all you want since you are at least telling the truth about him.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 12:20 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 12:21 AM (7GQM/)
Yes, with the following caveats. I took tomorrow off, so I'm in my cups. Also, I posted earlier that I thought we ought to "chisel in stone" his sentiment, which I think was misplaced enthusiasm. I think Trump will run the South, Cruz will win Texas, and the enthusiasm that "Trump lost" is inaccurate. I thought he did well, perhaps better than previously.
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:22 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:23 AM (hgpSN)
You've always been a keen and readable commenter. I think hitting other commenters hard on specifics, and substance, is perfectly OK - that's kinda the point of a give-and-take comment section. As long as one stays humble and substantive, little can go wrong.
But, as I reminded ace today (and he acknowledged it), one of his best lines during the "civility" kerfuffle here a few months back was "if you're going to break the civility rules, at least be funny."
So there's always that little loophole .....
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:24 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Bebe Dahl's Fernando doll at February 26, 2016 12:25 AM (yNyJy)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 26, 2016 12:10 AM (jEIZo)
He didn't say he'd vote for Rubio only that he wasn't as bad as Trump.
And perhaps you should take another look at the many positions of Trump on illegal immigrants themselves and not just the wall. Those positions on average leave illegal here (although some make them go home, shout olly olly oxenfree, and then come back.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 12:25 AM (NPofj)
Cruz is the logical winner but then what's logic got to do with it, got to do with it?
Posted by: Ralph at February 26, 2016 12:25 AM (DKDOJ)
So long as this remains a three way, Trump wins. Everybody sees that.
But look at the two way matchups and see how messed up the Party is. Cruz is another outsider and has all of the anti-amnesty people who aren't on the Trump Train. Lots of them have Trump as their second choice, especially with Rubio as the only other viable option. So Trump vs Rubio is probably Trump.
I get the feeling many Rubio voters would move to Cruz as their second choice but the people who own the RubioBot 3000 would rather take a chance on Trump, Bloomberg or even Hillary before allowing Cruz to win. Plus since Rubio is now the establishment pick he has unlimited funds available so why get out? Only if they really were willing to take a hit for the team like Walker did, but the GOPe would really rather watch the world burn before surrendering power. So Trump vs Cruz would probably be a Cruz win but can't happen.
Cruz vs Rubio is 1976, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012 all over again. A Conservative gets destroyed by the establishment and Rubio wins easily.
So work the possibilities and show where the flaw in the logic is at, where Trump doesn't win. Then start practicing saying President Trump.
Posted by: John Morris at February 26, 2016 12:26 AM (sCRhB)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:26 AM (hgpSN)
Bless your heart.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:19 AM (j4/d2)
See, that's just what Trump does. You're faced with the question of defending Donald's answers to questions in the debates and his really over the top bombastic performance, wherein he shouts people down and accuses them of lying and being way behind in the polls and your answer to that is to accuse the askers of the question of being anti-trump and having TDS. It's bait and switch dude. It's classic avoidance of a position you know you won't win at, so you revert to attacks on the questioner.
And I'm from Alabama, so I know what Bless Your Heart means. You can go Bless your own heart too.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:26 AM (pUDQf)
To go with your boxing analogy - to change the race, Cruz or Rubes didn't just need to draw blood, they needed a knockout. There is no way sane analysis can claim that occurred tonight.
Trumps successful narrative consists of:
- Outsider
- Outspoken
- Non-Politician
- Tells it like it is
- Fights
Nothing that occurred changed that narrative. Notice it does not include policy wonk or champion debater. If we were scoring these on points, Ted would have been 20 pts up since Iowa.
I know you're argument is going to be "but, Rubio made fun of him! Balloon Popped!" And 3 months ago I would agree you might be right. We are way past that now. It's Trump against the world and tonight just plays into that.
It's going to be interesting to see the post NV polls come out over the next day or two - I'm guessing not going to support the "game changer!!!" narrative.
Posted by: CastleP at February 26, 2016 12:27 AM (7+oeE)
Yes, it has. Not its final passage, but Cruz helped squeak it along.
And only when it did, in fact, squeak along did he suddenly discover it was bad. Just as building a wall and deporting illegal immigrants only became a priority the moment Trump not only said it, but stuck by it and seized tremendous momentum for saying it.
I like Cruz on paper. In practice? He comes across as fucking rotten. A bit like how Rubio seemed great on paper - how'd that turn out?
And now, according to someone here - I didn't see it - Cruz is talking up Rubio's credentials. You think if Rubio wins, Cruz is going to do anything but say "Yes, I believe Rubio is sincere on his opposition to illegal immigration, it's the most important thing ever to defeat Hillary"?
C'mon.
Gamble on Trump. At least Trump's encouraging people to speak up and fight PC culture. The rest of the GOP - including, sadly, folks around here - have the attitude of 'Let's puss out and try to gain SJW approval that we're not mean o' racists. Surely that will pay off in spades!'
Posted by: Crude at February 26, 2016 12:27 AM (/IrCS)
Intonation is everything. I'm a Virginian. It's a fine salutation up here.
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:29 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 12:30 AM (7GQM/)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:26 AM (pUDQf)
*****
If you choose not to see that you are engaging in this exact behavior in the inverse of that which you accuse others of, I can not help you.
I can explain it to you, but I can't comprehend it for you.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:31 AM (j4/d2)
Yes, it has. Not its final passage, but Cruz helped squeak it along."
No it hasn't. You repeating it has does not make that true. TPA was voted on last May... TPP hasn't been voted on at all. You need to stop getting your information from unreliable sources.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 12:31 AM (NPofj)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:33 AM (hgpSN)
Never been to Alabama. Which I regret. Most recently, specifically regret not being able to go to Anniston to the CMP South store (or to their M1 clinics and volunteer things.
Actually dying to spend a while eating and moseying my way through much of the South. Some day.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:33 AM (QDnY+)
Trump was molested, slapped and pantsed by Cruz and Rubio for 1 1/2 hours.
My prediction: he gains 6 points in the polls.
Posted by: TexasJew at February 26, 2016 12:33 AM (8sSnk)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:24 AM (QDnY+)
Oh I know and I wasn't trying to make any backhanded inferences. Just that I, myself, was starting to just hate the whole situation. And listen I'm not about to pretend to be the wittiest or most articulate here. I'll leave that up to you guys. That's why I got hooked as a lurker. I think the best posts are the ones where civility is abandoned and it is funny and cuts like a knife. I really appreciate your comment and the comments from the regulars too. Thanks for your kind words.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 12:34 AM (UnJ7w)
Re Rubio began as tea party republican, then showed what he really had in mind the entire time when he became the face of gang of 8 amnesty.
So asking about "Trump's specific policies" is as futile as asking about Rubio's.
Politicians lie.
Rubio is worse policy-wise then Sen. Soros/Schumer, at least Sen. Soros/Schumer never promised anyone anything but amnesty.
Posted by: bopiddy at February 26, 2016 12:34 AM (9HJf4)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 12:35 AM (7GQM/)
Posted by: Jake at February 26, 2016 12:19 AM (YmXuG)
No... I would be glad to send him a thank you letter (and I would only curse him out a lot for lying his way through the last month).
We do not however owe him the country to further destroy.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 12:36 AM (NPofj)
Wall St Journal Poll, Who Won The Debate?
Trump 77%
Posted by: Meremortal at February 26, 2016 12:38 AM (3myMJ)
Still seems kind of unlikely that tonite will change much for Super Tuesday. It's just so rare that events like this actually do have much impact (on prez primaries).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:38 AM (QDnY+)
this exact behavior in the inverse of that which you accuse others of, I
can not help you.
I can explain it to you, but I can't comprehend it for you.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:31 AM (j4/d2)
I'm not engaging in the trickery you are. It's a simple equation. Someone compared Trump supporters to Paulians, the implication being that Trump supporters are willing to overlook anything he says/does in blind devotion to him. Your answer continues to be some variation of accusing the person proffering the point of TDS. Yet you don't counter his argument, which would require you to defend Donald's performance and his debate answers. Since that's a bridge too far, you're stuck in the mode of accusing me now of doing what you're doing, when all I've been doing is pointing out that you've been avoiding the original point, while politely telling me in southern speak to go fuck myself.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:38 AM (pUDQf)
recently, specifically regret not being able to go to Anniston to the
CMP South store (or to their M1 clinics and volunteer things.
Actually dying to spend a while eating and moseying my way through much of the South. Some day.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:33 AM (QDnY+)
It's a great state and I'd be disappointed if you didn't find all the trouble you wanted, the barbecue you could eat and fine southern bells you cared to engage with. We may have a sullied past, but we currently put guys like Jeff Sessions into Congress.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:41 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:41 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 12:41 AM (7GQM/)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 26, 2016 12:42 AM (3myMJ)
You bet, you are welcome. I agree with you on relatively limited impact of debates this far into the calendar.
Posted by: CastleP at February 26, 2016 12:42 AM (7+oeE)
In this case, it just sounds like dimestore hypnosis to get people to reconsider and give your guy a shake.
Whoever your guy is, you are "devoted" to him despite the inadequacies that everyone else plainly sees. How does it feel?
Posted by: Mega at February 26, 2016 12:43 AM (JwLCI)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 12:44 AM (7GQM/)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:44 AM (hgpSN)
my goal isn't to speak french, it's actually to speak five languages. I want to speak spanish, italian, french, and german, plus english.
Spanish isn't that bad. the grammar is similar to french, the pronunciation takes some doing but seems (I think) pretty doable. The tricky thing is the accent. I only just now recently realized that when you say "accent," yo literally mean "accent" -- what part of the word you accent. that's what gives a language its signature sound.
but i'm hopeful that i can pick that up; it sounds (*sounds*) like a simple and consistent scheme that, in theory, I should be able to get.
The long march will be once again vocabulary (takes years), but i'm hoping I can leverage both english and french cognates into learning it more quickly.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 12:45 AM (dciA+)
Arson, I angrily reject your self-assessment as any less witty or valuable a commenter than anyone else here. Balderdash. You bring the stuff and the yukks, much as any other Moron. I will, however, overlook this particular error in your thinking. You're welcome (lol).
Meremortal, you had a great comment up above I'm too lazy to scroll back to - about this primary, I think. Anyway, appreciate your contributions here.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:46 AM (QDnY+)
In this case, it just sounds like dimestore hypnosis to get people to reconsider and give your guy a shake.
Whoever your guy is, you are "devoted" to him despite the inadequacies that everyone else plainly sees. How does it feel?"
I read this twice, carefully. What's your point?
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:47 AM (hgpSN)
Sorry. Too much coffee.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:47 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:38 AM (pUDQf)
*****
This is a kinder, gentler blog now. Haven't you heard?
Your post in no way refutes mine, although it does sometimes rhyme with it.
I am truly, deeply sorry that the point that I posted about the irony of an anti Trump obsessed poster complaining about those who are for Trump posting their views went completely over your head.
Can I explain it to you some other way, perhaps?
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:48 AM (j4/d2)
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 12:48 AM (dciA+)
-Slate
Slate?
Of course. The MSM badly wants Trump to be the nominee, so they're downplaying his getting schlonged tonight.
Posted by: gewa76 at February 26, 2016 12:49 AM (dgti/)
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 12:48 AM (j4/d2)
And...now it's just awkward. Lol
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:49 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: Meremortal at February 26, 2016 12:51 AM (3myMJ)
as far as "game changer" and "reset" drew convinced me I was overstating
that by quite a bit. I now believe this debate will only have a modest
effect on the race.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 12:48 AM (dciA+)
Honestly, Trump was right when he said he could cap a sucker in the street and get a poll bump.
Teflon Don was invented for this guy. Modest effect will be lest modest than you think, methinks.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:51 AM (pUDQf)
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 12:45 AM (dciA+)
You can study vocabulary independently of grammar and other parts of a language. I highly recommend the Anki software (at http://ankisrs.net/ with lots of free flashcard decks for pretty much anything). Once you get about 1500-2000 words plus a few simple verbs under your belt in a language, you can pretty much speak a caveman version of it and be understood.
Posted by: Maetenloch at February 26, 2016 12:51 AM (pAlYe)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:52 AM (hgpSN)
There's a big trip in my future, built around military museums, food, and scenery. Starting in AZ and NM (air and nuke museums), Pacific War museum in TX, WWII in NOLA, and much more. From my left coast perch all the way to the Atlantic (actually did visit Savannah briefly, one - only interstate I've seen both ends of is I-10, which starts at the Santa Monica Pier and ends near the hotel I used in Savannah - oh, hi there Jane D'oh!).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:52 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 12:52 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Ralph at February 26, 2016 12:53 AM (DKDOJ)
Trump 77%
Posted by: Meremortal at February 26, 2016 12:38 AM (3myMJ)
Skip the No. 1 spot (Paul effect) and look at the relative positions of the lower ranked.
WSJ:
14% Rubio
7% Cruz
4% Kasich
1% Carson
Statesman (Austin)
7% Rubio
4% Cruz
2% Kasich
1% Carson
Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 26, 2016 12:54 AM (T78UI)
Who Won Debate?
Trump 53%
Cruz 26
Rubio 16
-The Blaze
Posted by: Meremortal at February 26, 2016 12:54 AM (3myMJ)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:47 AM (hgpSN) ---------------------------I was responding to the worn out meme that Trump's supporters have some kind of extra "blindness" that no other candidate's supporters have.
Among a very sad few actual useful talents, I am an exceptionally clear writer so I'm not sure how you missed it.
Posted by: Mega at February 26, 2016 12:55 AM (JwLCI)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 12:55 AM (7GQM/)
When you speak about french and spanish verbs an sentence structure you remind me when I was learning those languages. I clearly remember conjugating French verbs in my dreams while sleeping.
'Je pense en francais, donc je suis.'
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 12:56 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:56 AM (hgpSN)
Posted by: Ralph
The metamorphosis to Europeanism having been completed.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 26, 2016 12:56 AM (FkBIv)
I'm not sure how I missed it, either. Mea culpa. I applaud your appreciation of one of your sole talents.
Posted by: General Zod at February 26, 2016 12:58 AM (hgpSN)
military museums, food, and scenery. Starting in AZ and NM (air and
nuke museums), Pacific War museum in TX, WWII in NOLA, and much more.
From my left coast perch all the way to the Atlantic (actually did visit
Savannah briefly, one - only interstate I've seen both ends of is I-10,
which starts at the Santa Monica Pier and ends near the hotel I used in
Savannah - oh, hi there Jane D'oh!).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 12:52 AM (QDnY+)
Definitely hit Mobile. She was a great hub of ship manufacturing for WWII. You might even find a nice battleship there to explore.
Alabama's history is rich in music (watch the documentary on Muscle Shoals), the Civil War (don't get me started) and WWII, which included our shipyards and the eventual launch of the space program with Von Braun in Huntsville. Great state. Lots of history here, good and bad.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at February 26, 2016 12:59 AM (pUDQf)
Main difference being we will have the stronger candidate this time, and so not be facing a socialist and a filibuster-proof socialist majority.
I'm afraid it's about the best we're going to get. Remember that "the wall" was sneered at by that skunk. At least this way we may just get one.
Posted by: Mega at February 26, 2016 01:01 AM (JwLCI)
Posted by: skilaki at February 26, 2016 01:01 AM (Tzv1u)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:02 AM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: CastleP at February 26, 2016 01:02 AM (7+oeE)
Posted by: Mega at February 26, 2016 01:03 AM (JwLCI)
And I restate my modest yet firm claim to have coined a second inside-baseball nickname for this site: Smart Linguistics Blog.
Maet (as ever) is right about that vocabulary thing.
But ace, a question. I think your French/Spanish/Italian combo makes perfect sense, for obvious reasons. Just curious about your fourth (foreign) language.
I have nothing against German (though you should read the great Mark Twain essay on it, if you haven't already). It's the one I've spent the second-most time on (and I've spent exactly 5 days in Germany).
Just for kicks, I'd toss out something a little different. Not ridiculous, like a tonal language. Or even Japanese, with its writing system problem.
Russian. Impress your friends, and chicks, without deserving it. Learn the alphabet in 24 hours. Master the basics (only six cases, two basic verb types) in no time. Not a whole lot of cognates, though.
However, some borrowed stuff that is kind of amusing, in how it reminds one of Russia's sad history of retardation. The word for "train station", for example, is simply a russified version of Vauxhall, the famous train station in England ("vok-ZAL").
Hungarian would be Magyar, and no, you wouldn't stand a chance of picking up a word. Different language family entirely. But if I were 20 years younger, and single, and liked blondes especially, I'd do a language study thing in Finland in a heartbeat (OK I also love hockey and x-c skiing).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 01:06 AM (QDnY+)
It's really sad that people are so eager to just roll the dice.
They are going to be so disappointed.
If he is the nominee I hope he succeeds. I predict pitchforks from the Trumpbots or maybe they will blindly follow him to the left.
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 01:09 AM (7GQM/)
Can I just point something out, here? None of what you're grateful for happens without Trump running away with the votes. It's only possible because he's leading the overall race by ever-increasing numbers.
Suppose he was saying the same things, but running between third and fourth place. Do you think any of these changes you're enjoying in our national conversation happen under those circumstances? No, of course they don't.
A fourth-place Trump has zero effect on our conversation about immigration, or gun control, or fixing the VA.
Trump is only able to reshape our conversation on these issues because he's winning, and all the other candidates want to take a share of his winning votes away from him, so they parrot him.
With him running in fourth place, we're no longer talking about building a wall on our border; we're just negotiating how long until we allow the rest of the world to come in and take our jobs and vote in our elections.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 26, 2016 01:10 AM (0OG8D)
Like someone here said yesterday, "I'm so mad at the GOPe fake conservatives that that I'm going to vote for a fake conservative" doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V (a white) (whitely brandishing ampersand privilege ) at February 25, 2016 11:26 PM (P8951)
Where did I say I'm voting for him to stop the Leviathan state? Even Reagan increased spending.
I'm hiring Trump because of who he is not, not because of what he will do. Any successes in the latter are just bonuses.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster browsing Bravely at February 26, 2016 01:11 AM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: ElKomandante at February 25, 2016 09:32 PM (Ql4Nd)
Man; That is some funny stuff; Glad I read the earlier thread just for that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:13 AM (w4NZ8)
yeah i want to do that.
my preferred method of learning vocab is to read and then look up. I'm currently reading children's books in Spanish.
I don't mean YA, I mean children's. I'm reading "La Yaguna Holly," or "Holly the Mare." It's about a mare who meets a goat and an owl and a turtle while having an adventure.
She gets told there's more delicious grass over the mountains, better than what she has at home, so she goes looking for the greener grass in other places.
I haven't finished yet. Don't spoil it and tell me how it ends.
anyway as silly as that is i'm learning vocab from it.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:15 AM (dciA+)
Posted by: redridinghood at February 26, 2016 01:15 AM (7GQM/)
Just for kicks, I'd toss out something a little different. Not ridiculous, like a tonal language. Or even Japanese, with its writing system problem.
...
i already know a bit of german from years and years ago. I have a bit of a memory of it that can be awakened.
i would do japanese eventually, if I ever finish the others.
i wouldn't do magyar or whatever because i want some bang for the buck. i want to learn Big Languages with a lot of travel through the world.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:18 AM (dciA+)
so i would thank Trump for moving the overton window, but now that it's been moved, I'd prefer the guy who's actually Tough on Immigration.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:20 AM (dciA+)
Posted by: TallDave at February 26, 2016 01:20 AM (74ZYB)
Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 01:22 AM (/dSsq)
Dafuq?
Trump did exactly what he needed to do in this debate. He needed to remain stable, well, Trump level stable, while taking it in the ass from two opponents.
I'm not even a Trump supporter and I think he did well.
I don't get where you're coming from. Like it or not, the guy is going to win the nomination.
Posted by: Community Organizer at February 26, 2016 01:22 AM (Bjvsz)
finnish is alien to every other language pretty much. and complicated to boot.
if i were going to go with a Hot Chick language i'd learn czech or polish.
a guy i know told me to go to any of the baltic states. said the girls were smoking hot and unreasonably interested in american men of modest means and limited job prospects.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:23 AM (dciA+)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 26, 2016 01:24 AM (0OG8D)
No; It's not an anti Trump site. The blog moderator prefers Cruz to Trump; Reads the comments after posts and you'll find a significant amount of enthusiasm for Trump.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:25 AM (w4NZ8)
I noticed the same thing re: Cruz being pushed to Trump's right on immigration. I like and would vote for Cruz. Only issue is that in the general the "best case" scenario with Cruz is we pull out one last 50.1 vs. 49.9 election. Cruz does not have the ability to put the upper Midwest in play.
Posted by: CastleP at February 26, 2016 01:26 AM (7+oeE)
Well, if you're looking for Big Languages in terms of travel, you have not far to go.
As you know, you already have the best one - English. Bar none. From Harbin to Porto Alegre to Khabarovsk to Basra, English is the best one to have if you only have one. And you already have it.
Kind of a toss up betw. Spanish and French. Depends on geography, as you know. Though I think Spanish gets you more territory and countries, in a raw numbers sense (Latin America vs. west Africa).
I think Spanish and French on top of your native English, and you're done, for travel. One of the best trips I ever had was to Eritrea (not kidding), where Italian would have come in handy, but that clearly was a freakish outlier.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 01:27 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:28 AM (w4NZ8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 26, 2016 01:28 AM (w4NZ
A lot of these people threaten to leave if a Republican is elected, but they never do.... pity....
Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 01:29 AM (/dSsq)
Trump hasn't moved the national sentiment on this issue. he's only moved it within the party. I'm not sure he has the ability to move sentiment nationally. he's not particularly good at persuasion. He's good at announcing things boldly so that people feel comfortable *agreeing with things they already agreed with.*
But persuading the unpersuaded? I haven't seen it yet. Trump tends to put things in the ugliest, most alienating way possible (Mexicans coming over with their rape and drugs).
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:29 AM (dciA+)
BTW election not reset look at Drudge online poll. You are falling into the same trap as everyone. "THIS is the straw that breaks the camels back!" NOT! Well, last time he argued like a fool, supported the mandate, supported Planned Parenthood, and said Bush lied us into war. Then Donaldus Maximus went out and won in a landslide. The landscape has shifted faster than any of us could have imagined.
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 01:30 AM (EmQBp)
in all these things he drags the discussion to the left and blockades anyone from moving the political center to the right.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:30 AM (dciA+)
Trump hasn't moved the national sentiment on this issue. he's only moved it within the party. I'm not sure he has the ability to move sentiment nationally. he's not particularly good at persuasion. He's good at announcing things boldly so that people feel comfortable *agreeing with things they already agreed with.*
How the hell did We get here?..... It looked so promising a year ago.... I am depressed....
Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 01:31 AM (/dSsq)
no i want to look cool speaking the local language.
>>>How about Italian?
that's the next one. I really expect that to be easy as it's just french vocabulary with spanish pronunciation.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:32 AM (dciA+)
That was Trump tonight. I WANT MORE!
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:33 AM (UnJ7w)
BTW election not reset look at Drudge online poll. You are falling into the same trap as everyone. "THIS is the straw that breaks the camels back!" NOT! Well, last time he argued like a fool, supported the mandate, supported Planned Parenthood, and said Bush lied us into war. Then Donaldus Maximus went out and won in a landslide. The landscape has shifted faster than any of us could have imagined.
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 01:30 AM (EmQBp)
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Exactly.
If there was any debate that could or should have sunk King Xerxes, that would have been the one.
It was horrible.
This was a walk in the park.
Posted by: Community Organizer at February 26, 2016 01:34 AM (Bjvsz)
this was a big thing i talked about in the podcast -- remember 18 months ago when we were saying "We have such a huge lineup of standout political talent, it's like the 1927 Yankees and their Murderers' Row..."
NOPE!
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:34 AM (dciA+)
he dropped in poll support from that. yes he won SC, but not by as much as he was leading it in the polls.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:35 AM (dciA+)
NOPE!
Damn... I'm even more depressed...
Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 01:35 AM (/dSsq)
It was horrible.
This was a walk in the park.
...
there are two ways to lose: 1, on policy points, 2, on looking like a fool.
Tonight, trump lost both ways. in sc, he only lost on #1.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:36 AM (dciA+)
Seriously, grow up, children.
Posted by: theshoe at February 26, 2016 01:37 AM (3C3tW)
I thought this was a smart military blog....
Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 01:38 AM (/dSsq)
Old man gets a few punches in against the GOP championship tag-team while preventing a knockout.
GOPe goes batsht crazy that finally someone may have got a shot in on the old man.
Posted by: doug at February 26, 2016 01:39 AM (RoIDw)
Seriously, grow up, children.
...
it's kind of amazing how Trump fans just imitate trump's tactics. Trump insults people, gee, that means *I* have to insult people.
are you a billionaire too? If not, maybe you can take it easy on the unearned sense of superiority.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:39 AM (dciA+)
The reason Trump is not more damaged by his mistakes is there are no good alternatives in reality. Rubio is a disaster on immigration and Cruz is only a little better, his recent claims notwithstanding.
Trump relates to the people whose lives have been ruined by globalism on an emotional level. The other candidates can't even bring themselves to admit our trade deals have hurt many Americans.
Even when Cruz and Rubio discuss immigration, it is from the standpoint of the fate of the illegals, not what their presence has done to damage prospects for American workers.
Posted by: Chris Vaughn at February 26, 2016 01:39 AM (Bcqod)
But Czech or Polish (slavic roots without Cyrillic)? Chicks, roger, but for far less effort expended there is Portuguese (very easy). Brazil. In the words of DeGualle, "not a serious country" - i.e. the ultimate endorsement, for the sensualist epicure of modest means with limited prospects.
I admit that Gorbachev was just taking the helm when I spent my time down there, and much has changed, two things that haven't changed are Portuguese being easy, and Brazilian women (many) being the delightful explosive combo of conservative Catholic traditionalism encasing megaton-level afro-tropical sensuality.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 01:39 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:40 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:40 AM (dciA+)
he dropped in poll support from that. yes he won SC, but not by as much as he was leading it in the polls.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:35 AM (dciA+)
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Then crushed Nevada in every demographic.
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 01:40 AM (EmQBp)
Trump is already pulling in all sorts of people who wouldn't normally bother to go to the GOP caucus/primary. I think this will translate well for the general election.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 26, 2016 01:41 AM (0OG8D)
http://tinyurl.com/z7nxr46
For whatever that's worth.
Posted by: m at February 26, 2016 01:41 AM (S/1cF)
hah. well, you paint a vivid picture.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:41 AM (dciA+)
I wish I had what you're smoking...
Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 01:42 AM (/dSsq)
a caucus. not much like an election. intensity counts overmuch, and no one doubts trump's legions' intensity.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:42 AM (dciA+)
NOPE!
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:34 AM (dciA+)
******
Yeah. I know. *Sigh*. Me too.
I am onboard the Trump train, but could happily vote for Cruz as well. I am depressed watching a Party actively talk about taking down its frontrunner.
This whole thing sucks.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 01:43 AM (YLidQ)
Trump goes up 3 or 4 points.
Rubio goes up 3 or 4 points
Kasich goes up 4 or 5 points.
Carson goes down 1 or 2
Cruz goes down 4 or 5.
Undecideds go down 5 or 6 points.
Posted by: doug at February 26, 2016 01:44 AM (RoIDw)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 01:40 AM (EmQBp)
I remember Trump saying he hated the caucus process in Iowa when he lost and it should be changed. Then he crushed it in Nevada, like you said, and had all kinds of wonderful things to say about Nevada. I think this is one of the many things that non-Trump supporters can't square. He says one thing when it serves him and then the opposite when it doesn't. This is what worries me about a Trump nomination and a Trump presidency. You never know where the man truly stands.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:44 AM (UnJ7w)
1305 >>>
It was horrible.
This was a walk in the park.
...
there are two ways to lose: 1, on policy points, 2, on looking like a fool.
Tonight, trump lost both ways. in sc, he only lost on #1.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:36 AM (dciA+)
- - - -
Here's my perspective.
For the most part, I support, or have supported Rubio. I realize you hate him with the passion of a thousand burning suns, but I'm just being honest.
I think Cruz is a good guy, but he literally makes my skin crawl. If those goddamn eyebrows droop 1mm lower, or that preacher voice, hand gesturing routine happens one more time, I'm going to fucking explode.
I know it's ridiculous and vain, but I can't fucking help it. I feel like I'm listening to the greasiest human alive. I'm probably a terrible human being for letting it affect me so much, but it is what it is.
Secretly though, I've been bi-polar for Trump. He says so many things that enrage me and yet so many things that I agree with.
What an insane race.
Posted by: Community Organizer at February 26, 2016 01:45 AM (Bjvsz)
while trump was still boosting amnesty, Cruz was actually working with Jeff Session to sink the gang of eight.
So sure, Cruz is just pretending to be anti-amnesty-- after being the guy to sink it.
And not just with his legislative manuevering; he's the guy who went all over talk radio to tell the truth about rubio's gang of eight, and turn the base against it, who in turn pressured their congressmen to oppose it.
this is part of the reason the party hates cruz. They had amnesty in the bag, finally, and cruz (and sessions, and lee) went out there and blew it all up.
meanwhile, Trump was callig self-deportation "inhuman."
so spare me with your claim's of CRUZ's late in life conversion.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:45 AM (dciA+)
I do smoke, but my tobacky is strictly of the non-wacky variety.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 26, 2016 01:46 AM (0OG8D)
Even though I prefer Cruz, I would respect and trust him a hell of a lot more on the issue of illegal immigration if he sounded as tough as he did tonight far earlier in this election season.
Posted by: Jess at February 26, 2016 01:46 AM (8olbK)
To be able to make stuff up, live in an alternate reality, toss insults, do it with condescending tone, while making a goofy face, and never lose support... that's a story book, man. Literally. I'm not joking.
Posted by: Joe Biden at February 26, 2016 01:48 AM (H9MG5)
Though there was one funny connection. The first election since the military govts. of many years occurred when I was there. The winner suffered a stroke soon after his inauguration, and never recovered.
During the long period of his hospital care before death, Brazilians started referring to him as "Chernenko brasileiro" after the famously doddering Soviet Politburo fossil who was placed in the leadership and died soon after (I think that was the funeral where then-VP GHW Bush said to PM Thatcher - "see you next year!").
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 01:48 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: donna at February 26, 2016 01:50 AM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 26, 2016 01:51 AM (0OG8D)
That could be yuge.
Posted by: Jess at February 26, 2016 01:52 AM (8olbK)
Posted by: Community Organizer at February 26, 2016 01:53 AM (Bjvsz)
while trump was still boosting amnesty, Cruz was actually working with Jeff Session to sink the gang of eight.
So sure, Cruz is just pretending to be anti-amnesty-- after being the guy to sink it.
And not just with his legislative manuevering; he's the guy who went all over talk radio to tell the truth about rubio's gang of eight, and turn the base against it, who in turn pressured their congressmen to oppose it.
this is part of the reason the party hates cruz. They had amnesty in the bag, finally, and cruz (and sessions, and lee) went out there and blew it all up.
meanwhile, Trump was callig self-deportation "inhuman."
so spare me with your claim's of CRUZ's late in life conversion.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:45 AM (dciA+)
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Cruz has a tendency to talk big once his vote has nothing to do with the outcome. His efforts lost in the Senate. The reason we do not have amnesty is that Cantor was toppled. Cruz claims credit for something he did not do.
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 01:53 AM (EmQBp)
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:53 AM (UnJ7w)
who was out there on the Mark Levin show giving the world the true facts of the Gang of Eight? That was Cruz doing the talk radio blitz.
I'll tell you who it was not -- Donald Trump.
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:55 AM (dciA+)
Trump did not topple Cantor either.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:56 AM (UnJ7w)
Not happening tonight - unfortunately, either Trump manages to scrape off the attacks or Rubio rises after his attacks land on Trump.
Posted by: lurker of lurking lurks at February 26, 2016 01:58 AM (jzJiL)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 01:59 AM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Ralph at February 26, 2016 01:59 AM (1g+wZ)
Posted by: Jess at February 26, 2016 01:59 AM (8olbK)
This past May, on a prominent firearms blog, a Czech member posted photos and commentary on the annual Victory Day commemorations there. Very interesting.
Private groups that do re-enactment (Allied forces), they even have American military vehicles from the period. People lining the street with American/British flags.
Enough to make you cry - both for the enduring historical literacy and decency of many Czechs, and the lack of same in so many other "allied" countries - and our "own" f***ing country. (kind of sad though that the Russians get no tribute, though - DUH! - the reasons are obvious - but the reasons have nothing to do with the actual liberation in '45).
Posted by: rhomboid at February 26, 2016 02:00 AM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 01:59 AM (VjlMj)
Heh heh... you're just kidding right? Right? Right? RIGHT???
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:00 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:01 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: John Boehner at February 26, 2016 02:02 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: ace at February 26, 2016 01:55 AM (dciA+)
1336 The reason we do not have amnesty is that Cantor was toppled. Cruz claims credit for something he did not do
Trump did not topple Cantor either.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 01:56 AM (UnJ7w)
*****
Nope, the people killed Cantor. Same way they will make their scorn known this cycle.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 02:02 AM (YLidQ)
Nope, the people killed Cantor. Same way they will make their scorn known this cycle.
Posted by: Tim in GA at February 26, 2016 02:02 AM (YLidQ)
To be fair Ace is right. Cruz went on Levin's show and gave the public the heads up on the Gang of Eight bill. There was a 'Levin Surge' of people bombarding DC with angry calls which influenced Boehner, I'm guessing. Also Mark Levin was pounding Eric Cantor on his popular radio show overnight and politicking for Dave Brat day in and day out. He gave Dave Brat a HUGE audience. The rest is history.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:06 AM (UnJ7w)
You can laugh and we'll continue to disagree or you can help cure my ignorance. Your choice. I know how to use google and haven't found anything. I've found a few accusations backed up by very little. Some noise about how Trump was in a room full of Hispanics and acted in a kind of ingratiating way towards their amnesty activism. Out in the real world I engage in all kinds of political discussions with a wide range of people and I don't act like an asshole around them. Even when I vehemently disagree I will show empathy and understanding. Show me where Trump actually lobbied for amnesty in some manner. I really couldn't give two shits about some conversation he supposedly had during a business meeting one time.
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:07 AM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:10 AM (EmQBp)
Cruz did good stuff there and deserves credit. Keep him where he is. There is a difference between legislating and executing. While Cruz has done some good, he comes off as a prevaricator. Because he is. The simple fact is that he does lie. He lied several times just in this debate.
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:11 AM (VjlMj)
Her's Trump answering Dana Bash's question on the subject of immigration earlier this year:
"I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal... A lot of these people are helping us...and sometimes it's jobs a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do. I want to move 'em out, and we're going to move 'em back in and let them be legal."
that my friend is AMNESTY>
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:14 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:19 AM (VjlMj)
You sound like an earnest Trump supporter. I doubt your support is based on his consistencies as far as political things he's said. I personally think he's a carnival barking opportunist who craves power. But it's a free country.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:20 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:22 AM (EmQBp)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:23 AM (VjlMj)
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Don't worry yourself, ace's take on these types of things is usually wrong.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 26, 2016 02:23 AM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler... Ask not for whom The Donald Trumps. at February 26, 2016 02:24 AM (0OG8D)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:19 AM (VjlMj)
No, it's amnesty. Trump called Romney 'heartless' for Romney suggesting that illegals would self deport under Romney's plan. Then he comes out and says he will round them up(all 12 million or so) and kick them out. That's not consistent at all, that's a flip flop. So which Trump should one believe? 2012 Trump or 2016 Trump?
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:24 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:23 AM (VjlMj)
No, I'm saying Trump says he is against socialized medicine then says he wants socialized medicine to pay for all these dying people in the street. That too is a flip flop.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:26 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:29 AM (VjlMj)
Anyone who's voting for Trump because of immigration is either an utter moron or the most credulous person alive. Or someone who actually wants amnesty.
Go after Rubio on immigration? With what credibility?
Posted by: Abali at February 26, 2016 02:30 AM (89I+i)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:22 AM (EmQBp)
Wrong. Trumps says he's going to 'have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal'. So what is it? Is Trump lying about himself?
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:30 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:20 AM (UnJ7w
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He has described a system of HSA's and competition across state lines for the vast majority without an individual mandate forcing people to buy insurance. For those who are poor or with pre-existing conditions and no other alternatives, there will be a government supported safety net -- " people will not be dying in the streets." If you are a candidate proposing a plan where people must die in the streets, there is a word for you -- looser.
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:30 AM (EmQBp)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:29 AM (VjlMj)
Rastus, that wasn't the argument we were having though.
"Show me the Trump flip flop evidence."--Rastus
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:32 AM (UnJ7w)
I feel like I'm arguing with a liberal here. Saying he doesn't want people to die in the streets isn't a promotion of socialism. Nuance my friend. In the few seconds he has to respond what's he supposed to say? This is one reason these debates kind of suck. All he's doing is trying to project a "not heartless" message. Anti socialism, anti obamacare, but we're not going to have people dying in the streets. Because that's what the liberals are going to say. No obamacare = you want to take healthcare away from people and leave them to die in the streets.
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:32 AM (VjlMj)
Seriously, who IS proposing such a thing? Unless Cruz or Rubio are proposing that emergency rooms should turn people away they are lying.
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:34 AM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:22 AM (EmQBp)
Wrong. Trumps says he's going to 'have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal'. So what is it? Is Trump lying about himself?
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:30 AM (UnJ7w)
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You clearly have not learned the art of translating Trumpian to English.
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:35 AM (EmQBp)
Wrong. Trumps says he's going to 'have an
expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be
legal'. So what is it? Is Trump lying about himself?
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:30 AM (UnJ7w)
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Well, if Trump is the nominee, President Clinton will just give them citizenship right away.
But I bet that if Trump actually wins the nomination, his plan will quickly revert to his position of a few months ago - he'll say "well, they don't really need to go back to Mexico for a touchback, what a stupid waste of time andmoney that would be - as I always said, there are jobs Americans won't do, we need them here"
Posted by: Abali at February 26, 2016 02:35 AM (89I+i)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:30 AM (EmQBp)
The argument was Is Trump for socialized medicine?, which Trump says he wants the gov't to pay for. So on that issue your argument is with Trump and Trump's own words. As far as "people dying in the streets" that's another argument. Btw, like you said, people go to the ER for that and have to be treated so in a sense Trump is lying about that too or at least making stuff up.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:36 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:35 AM (EmQBp)
Lol, Trumpian, I'm going to steal that. Or what I like to call it, Lying.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:38 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:40 AM (VjlMj)
That could be yuge.
Posted by: Jess at February 26, 2016 01:52 AM (8olbK)
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If Cruz drops out you can probably bank on it, till then I doubt he'll officially endorse.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 26, 2016 02:42 AM (MbrzC)
Actually he was cornered in on this on one of the talk shows and he said the Government should pay for people's health care. That is socialized in it's truest form. I don't see what is liberal about pointing out factual and video evidence of things Trump has said. You wanted proof of flip flops and I gave them to you. Then you Goal Post Shifted halfway through and said in essence he flip flops but so does everybody else.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:42 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:40 AM (VjlMj)
Ok, so you just went from Goal Post Shifting to Tu Quoque. Is your head spinning yet?
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:43 AM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:43 AM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:46 AM (EmQBp)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:43 AM (VjlMj)
But Trump is saying that the should Government pay for 'People Dying In The Streets' and his support of the health care mandate which forces people to buy health insurance is socialism Rastus. He recently was for single payer. Hell in this debate he was espousing the wonders of socialized medicine in Europe. Give it up dude, the record is crystal clear where Trump stands on this issue.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:49 AM (UnJ7w)
I haven't seen proof of any flip flop. I think this conversation has come to an end. You're misrepresenting what I've said. Either I suck at communicating or you suck at comprehension. Probably late for both of us. What I said is that if Trump's plan is "socialist," then so are all the other plans. My saying that has nothing to do with flippy flops one way or the other by anybody. Separate issues. Right now in this instant, none of the candidates have a plan that mandates people dying on the streets. In one manner or another, their plans accommodate non-excludable public goods.
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:49 AM (VjlMj)
Posted by: Tommylotto at February 26, 2016 02:46 AM (EmQBp)
The argument was Is Donald Trump in favor of socialized medicine? The answer is a resounding YES! I'm not arguing or care to argue ER cost benefit analysis.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:51 AM (UnJ7w)
Well, nice chatting with you sir. It is late and this a pretty tense time. I just want what's best for this country and I know you do to. Don't be a stranger and good night.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:54 AM (UnJ7w)
Unintelligible string of words.
>> Hell in this debate he was espousing the wonders of socialized medicine in Europe
HUH?
>> He recently was for single payer.
CFR
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:54 AM (VjlMj)
Not seeing it.
>> Well, nice chatting with you sir. It is late and this a pretty tense time. I just want what's best for this country and I know you do to. Don't be a stranger and good night.
Likewise, peace
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:57 AM (VjlMj)
I'm not blaming anybody - I didn't know Jim Gilmore was in the race for a few months, so it makes sense that you wouldn't know that he's out.
Posted by: lurker of lurking lurks at February 26, 2016 03:37 AM (jzJiL)
One big hit Trump had tonight was on no Senators backing Cruz. Sure, establishment politicians hate him, and rightfully so. But there are wildcards who could endorse but haven't.
No Lee, Sessions, or even Rand Paul?
Posted by: lurker of lurking lurks at February 26, 2016 03:46 AM (jzJiL)
We should get over it.
Posted by: navybrat at February 26, 2016 04:00 AM (8QGte)
ace current debate: sure, Trump got do deprecate George W Bush and win SC and NV, but a couple of Roboto canned and meticulousy rehearsed attack lines are SURE to sink him now.
Pattern?
Posted by: Jui<er at February 26, 2016 04:03 AM (lkMaV)
I also saw a LOT of names I have never seen before. So my guess is these were all trolls and mobies.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at February 26, 2016 04:51 AM (t2KH5)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 26, 2016 05:06 AM (MbrzC)
I watched bits and pieces and I still cannot shake the image of a couple of toy poodles yapping at a lion.
Someone said it best I think when he said that we don't need a policy wonk, we need a leader.
Posted by: Drider at February 26, 2016 05:17 AM (6Xbsz)
Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at February 26, 2016 06:02 AM (mI7oi)
Posted by: scorecard at February 26, 2016 06:13 AM (Bbcs8)
Overall they "lie" about Trump by expanding on what Trump says, or taking it out of context to an extreme. Trump leaves room for this by his "broadening the tent" and not giving the required "purity test" answers that "true conservatives" demand.
Cruz attacks lawyer style ... taking a half sentence "government pays" in regards to people on the street, claiming that is a smoking gun, case closed. In the after interview Cruz did a whole series of statements like that, "proving" that Trump is just like Hillary. To me it sounded like those were all "lies", intentional mischaracterizations. That is politics to a point, but Cruz takes it to an extreme.
The establishment is out in force and their guns are focused on Trump. If Cruz rises he would be easier to handle. The illegals have to go back, Trump said when they start going most will return on their own as with Eisenhower (iirc).
Posted by: Illiniwek at February 26, 2016 06:26 AM (eUbDe)
I suppose if zombie Ann Richards was running in the GOP primary you'd support her because she is from Texas.
Anyone not remember our correpondent's crushing on Doofus Supreme Rick Perry and his giant war cock?
Sir, you are a clever and entertaining writer, but politically you are simply daft.
Posted by: Bildung at February 26, 2016 06:40 AM (za0BN)
And homeless stats under Barry Obama are?
Heroin addiction?
Suicide rates?
So maybe not on the dotted line, but they're dying. We have emergency rooms, but we also have alleys, bridges, woods, vacant buildings, and something called hypothermia.
Posted by: Sojourner56 at February 26, 2016 07:02 AM (6i1gP)
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 01:59 AM (VjlMj)
Heh heh... you're just kidding right? Right? Right? RIGHT???
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 26, 2016 02:00 AM (UnJ7w)
Sadly, he is not.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 07:27 AM (NPofj)
not socialism. Socialism consists of government controlling the
production and distribution of private goods. Poli Sci 101 Trump's
healthcare plan is not socialist in any way. Emergency Rooms accepting
anybody who walks in off the street is not socialism. Fire department
is not socialism. Police department is not socialism.
Posted by: Rastus at February 26, 2016 02:43 AM (VjlMj)
Rastus... you are lying to yourself. And health care is in no way a non-excludable public good. Forcing tax payers to pay for other people's health care very much is socialized medicine. Stop rationalizing and THINK.
Posted by: redbanzai at February 26, 2016 07:39 AM (NPofj)
I know many bloggers have said it is time to burn the house down and start over. Even if Trump hasn't quite done that, he certainly has given the GOPe smoke inhalation.
Posted by: Natrium at February 26, 2016 07:44 AM (hHQIG)
2016
America's Alpha Male
who will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN FOR ALL AMERICANS!
NO MORE BETA MALES IN THE WHITE HOUSE.....THIS MEANS THE TRAITOR RUBIO!!
Posted by: Myshiba at February 26, 2016 07:46 AM (n20xt)
Posted by: Anon at February 26, 2016 07:51 AM (TQPS0)
Posted by: JR at February 26, 2016 08:07 AM (wFlFs)
Posted by: mike191 at February 26, 2016 08:09 AM (XKC1/)
Posted by: x at February 26, 2016 08:20 AM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Barzini in Miami at February 26, 2016 09:21 AM (zmZ2x)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 26, 2016 09:56 AM (pq97T)
Posted by: JoeC at February 26, 2016 10:04 AM (wJ0uD)
I despise Rubio, and his idiotic groupies. People make fun of Trump supporters for being "angry", but at least they do have a actual reason to be "angry". The Rubio folks like Rubio because he is "handsome" and "photogenic". Who cares what his so called "conservative" polices are. Hence why they never talk about his gang of eight deal...
Posted by: William Eaton at February 26, 2016 10:09 AM (q52Ma)
Posted by: rodlang at February 26, 2016 10:30 AM (CmDWk)
Can't wait to see the new site title after Super Tuesday: Ace of Backtrack.
Posted by: Gone on Holiday at February 26, 2016 11:12 AM (QgEWC)
Problem is, he sounds like a wet noodle and is badly in need of some testosterone injections ...
Posted by: G6loq at February 26, 2016 12:48 PM (zj+JZ)
There was some pretty funny moments in the debate last night but a good portion of the debate simply looked like 2 chihuhua's chasing a lions tail.
I'm not sure if that was what they were going for oorrrr, what?
Posted by: Drider at February 26, 2016 12:52 PM (6Xbsz)
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