In Heat of the Crucible, Candidates Start Revealing Themselves

Jeb Bush: I'd eliminate the Citizens United decision, and I won't blame Obama for anything.

By the last part I assume he means "I will be accountable for my own presidency, and I won't, like this mewling quim Obama, forever seek to lay the blame for my nonperformance on my predecessor."

Eh, that's fine, but... I think the GOP is in a Blame Obama mood.

On the first part, I gotta say, I don't care anymore. This cycle has really proven that PACs aren't everything.

Still, we're only now entering the part of the primary where people are moving off scripted ConservaSpeak and revealing their true selves. I wish this could go on longer -- and not be mostly over as of tomorrow.

For example, John Kasich was asked, by a Democrat, why he should have that Democrat's vote.

His answer? Because he'd be a good compromise between Hillary Clinton (assumedly on "the right") and Bernie Sanders (assumedly on the left).

Well shit, where do I sign up, Johnny?

A possibly very confused voter at a John Kasich town hall in Windham, New Hampshire, wanted to know why she should vote for the Ohio governor in the "Democratic primary" — and Kasich, a Republican, didn't correct her. The question did not seem to be a slip of the tongue, either: The voter said she was having a hard time deciding between Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, and John Kasich in the "Democratic primary" and wanted to know why Kasich should have her vote.
"Isn't that interesting," Kasich said as the crowd around her gasped. However, without mentioning his political allegiance or correcting the voter, Kasich went on to position himself as a good compromise between Sanders and Clinton saying, "One of them's too hot, one of them's too cold, but I've got the right temperature."

In the podcast, I criticized myself for never actually listening to Kasich during debates. Now, I retract that criticism. It was time well saved.

In what is properly termed an "insane moment" in Saturday's debate, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, and Jeb Bush all agreed with the suggestion that, now that women are approved (by Obama's radical social engineering executive order) for all combat positions, girls should therefore be signed up with Selective Service for any future draft.

It seems some people aren't very interested in challenging the prison of progressive thought created by the media-Democratic regime -- just in being kinder wardens.

Ted Cruz disagrees, and calls this "nuts."

"It was striking that three different people on that stage came out in support of drafting women into combat in the military," Cruz said of his primary rivals at Saturday night’s GOP debate.
"I have to admit, as I was sitting there listening to that conversation, my reaction was: Are you guys nuts?" he added during a speech in New Hampshire.

Meanwhile, Trump is sounding more radical now. Your mileage may vary on whether this is a good thing or a bad thing.

In a nearly one-hour speech, Trump railed against pharmaceutical companies. He railed against oil companies. And insurance companies. And defense contractors. And he set himself against a political system that he said allows big-money corporate "bloodsuckers" to control the government with campaign contributions.
"Whether it's the insurance companies, or the drug companies, or the oil companies, it's all the same thing," Trump said. "We're never going to get our country back if we keep doing this."
Trump promised to allow the government to negotiate drug prices — a common position among Democrats but rarely heard at nominally Republican events. He said he would not raise military spending, arguing that the nation's defenses can be improved without increasing its already huge Pentagon budget. He promised tough sanctions on American companies that move jobs overseas.
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There were portions of Trump's Plymouth speech that sounded like Bernie Sanders, if Sanders had Trump's sense of showmanship.

I don't know how I feel about this -- it would depend on what he's specifically proposing, and he's usually very light on specifics. I think most would agree that major donors and corporations should have no special favors -- but also, no special punishments for their success, either. It's very hard to differentiate "no special favor" from an affirmatively punitive measure without knowing what it is, exactly, that is being proposed.

This video of Rubio is kind of funny.

Posted by: Ace at 05:37 PM

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1 Light on specifics is a valid detraction. The others just lie and pander.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 05:39 PM (OvUux)

2 Drop the large link. You have 20 seconds to comply.

Posted by: Robo-Gop at February 08, 2016 05:40 PM (WOyz5)

3 Trump is an asshole.

Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 08, 2016 05:41 PM (xWW96)

4 I reveal myself to women 'cause they want it. Always have always will!

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at February 08, 2016 05:41 PM (UBS9M)

5 Trump is veering left. In other words, back on course.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 08, 2016 05:42 PM (e6z6y)

6 If I have to pay for the birth control for every woman in the country I'm NOT having sex with?

She can register for the draft.

Posted by: Oschisms at February 08, 2016 05:43 PM (ZsN9X)

7 Whose buying .gov isn't the problem.

Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2016 05:43 PM (DL2i+)

8 I don't know how I feel about this -- it would depend on what he's specifically proposing, and he's usually very light on specifics.
-ace
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Heh. That's rich, ace.
He has specifically bragged about using his yuge fortune to buy access / influence with politicians. The Clintons in particular.

He's just showing his true colors now, it seems.

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 05:44 PM (OUpHg)

9 I think they all suck...

Posted by: donna at February 08, 2016 05:44 PM (/dSsq)

10 I don't know how I feel about this --

If you like Cruz, you should be pleased. If you like Trump, you should be scratching your head.

I gotta say, despite the Donald garnering lots of votes, he sure has made Ted Cruz look presidential.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 08, 2016 05:46 PM (fbovC)

11 In order to overturn the court ruling, Bush has said he would seek a constitutional convention, where he would also push for term limits and balanced budget amendment.

What thee fuck??

Who does he think would support that?

fucking clown.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2016 05:46 PM (wCF3s)

12 Keep them talking enough you'll find out all you need to know

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 05:46 PM (HWcaz)

13 I'm tired of having no representation in DC. I'd be quite alright with a ban on lobbying.

For the Super Bowl Babies, of course.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 05:47 PM (LUgeY)

14 I don't give a fig.

Posted by: Cam Newton at February 08, 2016 05:47 PM (UBS9M)

15 Given the stories of the insurance companies and other special interests, were writing the details of Obamacare, Trump is right that we have to get them out of Gucci Gulch, out of the White House basement. Hope and Change.

Same with military ... or so I hear. The Pentagon seems full of politicians and a few good men are retiring. It Trump wins and is not bought and paid for ... maybe he makes the proper surgical cuts. If he stands up for the A-10 he'd at least win some popularity, but I don't know what fat to cut.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 08, 2016 05:49 PM (5Gpe2)

16 Oh, and Jeb! can go F**K Himself and take Kasich with Him...

Posted by: donna at February 08, 2016 05:49 PM (/dSsq)

17 I'd also be quite alright with a ban on any piece of legislation that wasn't written by a duly elected sitting official.

Hey Donnie, you want to clean out Washington? There are ways to do it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 05:49 PM (LUgeY)

18 So Kasich is the Baby Bear?

Posted by: Bruce at February 08, 2016 05:50 PM (8ikIW)

19 Go home, Jeb. You're drunk.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 08, 2016 05:50 PM (kTF2Z)

20 It's nice to know The Jebacle's position on Citizen United.

Now we know that he's totes OK with allowing the government to ban showing of a movie critical of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Furious George at February 08, 2016 05:50 PM (3GAnN)

21 Bring in the clowns!

Posted by: Killerdog at February 08, 2016 05:50 PM (HnJlF)

22 @13

I think the NRA represents me. But, that's about it.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at February 08, 2016 05:50 PM (jV8Mq)

23 If he stands up for the A-10 he'd at least win some popularity, but I don't know what fat to cut.

Posted by: Illiniwek

Well, $1.3 trillion on a single jet that doesn't fly seems like a starting point.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2016 05:51 PM (wCF3s)

24
Speaking of "revealing" oneself, there are some full frontal photos of Tom Hardy on the internet, moronettes.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 05:51 PM (iQIUe)

25 So Kasich sees himself to the left of that right-wing reactionary Hillary Clinton?

Good to know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2016 05:51 PM (8ZskC)

26 Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, and Jeb Bush all agreed with the suggestion
that, now that women are approved (by Obama's radical social
engineering executive order) for all combat positions, girls should
therefore be signed up with Selective Service for any future draft.

Give the feminists the "equality" they've been screeching about and watch how fast they shut up. Yeah, it's insane, but so is having women anywhere near the front lines or in a job that requires heavy lifting (I've seen women IN THE MILITARY try to do what my husband does and they fail).

Posted by: pookysgirl at February 08, 2016 05:51 PM (K27gs)

27 Doesn't Israel draft everyone? And their army ain't too shabby last I heard.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 05:51 PM (0LHZx)

28 Mitt rMoney will come in to save the day riding his magical Orca!

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 05:51 PM (OvUux)

29 Bring in the clowns!

Somebody call?

Jeb, Christie, Rubio ,Doanld, Kasich, and Cruz....

Posted by: donna at February 08, 2016 05:52 PM (/dSsq)

30 I think most would agree that major donors and corporations should have
no special favors -- but also, no special punishments for their success,
either.
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When your success revolves around getting the government to prevent reimportation of drugs you sell the rest of the world at $5 a pill in order to maintain the $5000 a pop you charge us, it might be time for some generally punitive action.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 08, 2016 05:52 PM (ZbV+0)

31 In ?2003? democrats talked heavily about the draft. A think that the military has no interest in. The question is 100% political and 0% strategic.

Posted by: Jeb, the Mewling Quim at February 08, 2016 05:52 PM (VdICR)

32 Don't like PACs? Then get rid of campaign finance laws. Its rather simple. PACs only exist because the Court has not ruled down other parts of campaign finance laws that infringe on our first amendment rights.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 05:53 PM (nVNy0)

33 we are going to be stuck with rubio, #thelessercruz

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 08, 2016 05:53 PM (0O7c5)

34 I'm not paying any attention to Moo Moo until he releases his tax returns.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2016 05:53 PM (8ZskC)

35 So, the Daily Caller has a good piece up on Clinton's implosion with this quote:

For Krissie Davis, 20, and Haley Massingham,17, both from Dover, New Hampshire, their embrace of Sanders stemmed from their support for his position on college affordability as well as a distrust of Clinton.

"Those emails are wicked shady, I was for her until that stuff started," Davis said

Wicked Shady. That should be Clinton's rap name. Or code, for the Secret Service: Wicked Shady has left the building.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (39g3+)

36 Girls should be drafted for combat positions!

Please clap.

Posted by: The Jebacle at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (3GAnN)

37 27
Doesn't Israel draft everyone? And their army ain't too shabby last I heard.

That's because they literally have a manpower shortage compared to their enemies. We don't. A vast majority of Israeli women don't serve in combat units.

Posted by: Naes at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (Ypc8j)

38 Why is a state were Democrats can vote for a Republican the 2nd one up for a primary?

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (HWcaz)

39 McCain-Feingold, what say you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act

Never been two more stand up, men of integrity looking out for the American citizen than John McCain and Russ Feingold. They got BIG MONEY out of politics!

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (OvUux)

40 Dad was a mailman?

Or a commie apparatchik, comrade?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (8ZskC)

41 When I was in basic training they paired one female with one male in the foxhole because most females could not control hold the M60. I had been on a rifle team for years and was not afraid to fire the M60. My male counterpart was terrified. But I knew, shortly he would learn to enjoy shooting but I would never be able to haul that thing around. I was grateful to be allowed to serve but there are limits.

Posted by: tops at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (p5xLT)

42 Which is worse....listenng to Jeb debate or having a huge swollen painful pimple on your ass....(I'm asking for a friend)

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (egzLR)

43 Wasn't Belinda Carlisle in the Mewling Quims before she hit it big with the Go-Go's?

Posted by: Beorn at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (dGF4J)

44 "31 In ?2003? democrats talked heavily about the draft. A think that the military has no interest in. The question is 100% political and 0% strategic."

So were my birth control questions, but the idiots still fell for my trap.

Posted by: George Stephanoupholis at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (OD2ni)

45 we are going to be stuck with rubio, #thelessercruz
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel

Is he the lesser Cruz, or Romney with a latin flavor?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (zmW4B)

46 38 Why is a state were Democrats can vote for a Republican the 2nd one up for a primary?
Posted by: Skip
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FYNQ

Posted by: GOPe at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (3GAnN)

47 I just said get rid of all campaign finance laws. I guess I should have kept reading the post where Trump has gone full on populist and wishes to really limit campaign donations. In a world where the government infringes upon our first amendment rights, we get absurd results, such as PACs that are basically extensions of campaigns that technically cannot communicate with campaigns. Just let people contribute to whom they want to contribute. And no it does not need to be disclosed.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (nVNy0)

48 Draft the women.
They wanted equality in all things, give it to them. Why should we protect them from what they want?

Posted by: tsrblke (Tablet) at February 08, 2016 05:56 PM (a8eFL)

49 Help me! Help someone.

One of my favorite daily reads is now reported by Microsoft as a phishing site.
http://dyspepsiageneration.com/
SJWs will never have enough honor to not lie about people they want to censor. I am surprised they haven't reported Ace yet but it is only a matter of time. Help out someone who is under attack right now.

Posted by: Steve at February 08, 2016 05:56 PM (+jHI5)

50 Jesus the Israeli Draft canard again by someone who doesn't have a clue about Israel. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 05:56 PM (mw8Dm)

51 I think foreign money should be banned in politics, but I might be an outlier here.

Posted by: Naes at February 08, 2016 05:57 PM (Ypc8j)

52 Women on the front lines? Next thing you know they'll want to be doctors and architects and engineers. Where will the madness end?

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 05:57 PM (0LHZx)

53 Which is worse....listenng to Jeb debate or having a huge swollen painful pimple on your ass....(I'm asking for a friend)

There's a difference?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 05:57 PM (LUgeY)

54 I'd be quite alright with a ban on lobbying.

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Infringing upon the 1st A is quite popular these days.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 05:57 PM (nVNy0)

55 Kasich is the kind of Republican candidate that the MSM loves.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2016 05:58 PM (8ZskC)

56 On the Women in the draft thing.... well... welcome to F'n equality. If Women are going to be in combat units... and Men can be FORCED to serve.. then Women should have to as well.

Otherwise we have a problem with equal enforcement of the Law.... and I for one am TIRED of many Women's DOUBLE STANDARDS....

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 05:58 PM (f7rv6)

57 Well, $1.3 trillion on a single jet that doesn't fly seems like a starting point.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 08, 2016 05:51 PM (wCF3s)

But it self-identifies as flying, so there you go. H8ter.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 08, 2016 05:58 PM (oKE6c)

58 Kasich is the kind of Republican candidate that the MSM loves.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2016 05:58 PM (8ZskC)

he's the kind that gives RINOs a bad name

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 05:58 PM (mw8Dm)

59 The FBI investigation into Hillary is now being called Operation Wicked Shady.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (4ErVI)

60 Kasich is the kind of Republican candidate that the MSM loves.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

Until the general election anyway.

Posted by: Maverick John McCain at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (zmW4B)

61 Sean Connery was the best I ever had but Bob Hoskins was the greatest to wake up with. hic. Crack me a Bud!

Posted by: Helen Mirren at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (UBS9M)

62 50 Jesus the Israeli Draft canard again by someone who doesn't have a clue about Israel. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 05:56 PM (mw8Dm)

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So it's my imagination that women have been in combat roles in that army for decades. Sorry, my mad.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (0LHZx)

63 Why is a state were Democrats can vote for a Republican the 2nd one up for a primary?Posted by: Skip

The SECOND ONE? In Iowa democrat turnout was down 25%, while 'republican' turnout was up 25%. The 'extra' republicans seemed to like the republican version of 0bama.

So tired of the republican party turning their back on the fraud.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (fbovC)

64 I think we should commission the USS Pussy as the first of our Pink Fleet. Because that's who we are as Americans.

Posted by: Barak Insane at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (k8tEg)

65 Why should we protect them from what they want?

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Because not all women are radical leftists.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (nVNy0)

66 The FBI investigation into Hillary is now being called Operation Wicked Shady.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (4ErVI)

I thought it was Operation Wicked Stink?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (mw8Dm)

67 We need to dump the draft entirely. Huge masses of armies against each other is a thing of the past, and the doctrine of war for the US is small, fast, precise, highly motivated, and highly trained. You get none of that by forcing every third jobu on the street to fight.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 05:59 PM (39g3+)

68 Why should only men be subject to Selective Service?

Selective Service will be eliminated before women have to register, though.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2016 06:00 PM (2Ocf1)

69 49 Help me! Help someone.

One of my favorite daily reads is now reported by Microsoft as a phishing site.
http://
SJWs will never have enough honor to not lie about people they want to censor. I am surprised they haven't reported Ace yet but it is only a matter of time. Help out someone who is under attack right now.

Posted by: Steve at February 08, 2016 05:56 PM (+jHI5)

Do not go to that website.

Your search - site:acecomments.mu.nu (+jHI5) - did not match any documents.

Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2016 06:00 PM (zt+N6)

70 I work in manufacturing. We have to move 55 gallon drums and 50lb sacks of darko/filter aids/etc. Every time a female at work asks me to move them for her I just say "Equal work for equal pay" and keep moving.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 06:00 PM (OvUux)

71 Why does it talk to me and it is so uniformed about Israel. LIke it learned all it knows from a dime novel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:00 PM (mw8Dm)

72 Angry lesbians....that's who we should draft....they'd kick some butt

Posted by: MrKnowItAll at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (egzLR)

73 Jeb! is a spineless hack who needs to go away and play with his shine box.

Enough of the Bushes and the Clintons. Haven't you two families killed and fucked up enough people already?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (ej1L0)

74 Why should only men be subject to Selective Service?

Selective Service will be eliminated before women have to register, though.

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I have to say, my reaction to the question of whether women should have to register is why should men have to register? Why do we even have selective service in a day where we do not have the draft? I wish Paul had been in the conversation - I think he would have suggested it be elminated.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (nVNy0)

75 On the Women in the draft thing.... well... welcome to F'n equality. If
Women are going to be in combat units... and Men can be FORCED to
serve.. then Women should have to as well.

My younger son objected to my proposal to raise the voting age, using the old "if they're old enough to be drafted, they're old enough to vote/drink" argument.

Which has some validity, but I turned it around: if that be the case, why should women get the vote at 18? They weren't being drafted, so they received a free ride.

A long silence ensued.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (oKE6c)

76 50 Jesus the Israeli Draft canard again by someone who doesn't have a clue about Israel. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 05:56 PM (mw8Dm)

To be fair he's regularly demonstrated he doesn't have a clue about the U.S. military either.

Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (zt+N6)

77 Infringing upon the 1st A is quite popular these days.

How is that infringing upon anything? This surge of lobbying started back in the '60's.

Can you schedule a one hour meeting with one of your "representatives" in Washington? I'd really like to see someone try that these days.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (LUgeY)

78 Angry lesbians...

Are there any other kind?

Posted by: donna at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (/dSsq)

79 There's a difference?Posted by: BackwardsBoyThe pimple goes away much, much, quicker.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Whale Inc at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (+aCe4)

80 A) No one I know in the Military wants a Draft

B) We do NOT have a Draft

C) There is no movement to install a Draft

D) We ONLY have a registration for a Draft

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:02 PM (mw8Dm)

81 In case anyone missed it:
http://tinyurl.com/hgycogv

The Taiwan animation for Superbowl 50.

They really seemed to capture Newton's essence.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 08, 2016 06:02 PM (iHjB5)

82 Every time a female at work asks me to move them for her I just say "Equal work for equal pay" and keep moving.

I always liked moving stuff and reaching high items for girls at work because it made me feel all manly and flexing and viking but... I always felt like a sucker, too. "Oh, could you get that for me? *blink blink blink* its so heavy!" "Gawrsh, missy, sure thing!"

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (39g3+)

83 Doesn't Israel draft everyone? And their army ain't too shabby last I heard.

That's because they literally have a manpower shortage compared to their enemies. We don't. A vast majority of Israeli women don't serve in combat units.
Posted by: Naes at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (Ypc8j)

1. The only countries on the face of the planet with mandatory draft for women are Israel and North Korea. Not a very good example.

2. 99% of women in IDF are paper pushers. Their "basic training" is 2 weeks long. There are enough paper pushing male draft candidates in a population of 320 million.

Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (/PZoK)

84 Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 05:55 PM (nVNy0)

I take a little different view.... Political speech is an INDIVIDUAL Right... a person should be able to give as much of THEIR money as they want to political causes.

But Companies are NOT People... nor are Unions... they HAVE no Natural Rights because they are Legal Constructs... and thus should NOT be able to use money for Politics...

Would stop a LOT of the crony stuff cold IMO.

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (f7rv6)

85 To be fair he's regularly demonstrated he doesn't have a clue about the U.S. military either.
Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2016 06:01 PM (zt+N6)

Good point

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (mw8Dm)

86 Still, we're only now entering the part of the primary where people are moving off scripted ConservaSpeak

Not you, Marco.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (oVJmc)

87 look at Cruz, White Hispanic Knighting for the girls. that oughta work.

Posted by: x at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (nFwvY)

88 the idea is to draft women into the military and never get into a war, just use the military as the 21st century equivalent of the Peace Corpse. Unless the U.N. tells us we need to send troops into a "peacekeeping mission", you know, where they get batons and flashlights while standing between the crazies who want to kill each other and anyone who gets in the middle.

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (qSIlh)

89 I'm not seeing why making women register for the draft, that we don't have, is all that radical. Nobody forced the social engineering in the military on women, they and their Democrat politicians fought for it. Gender equality.

Well that goes both ways. Maybe people should think about the ramifications of their actions. Doesn't seem all that radical to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 06:04 PM (/tuJf)

90 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 05:57 PM (0LHZx)

Your trolling is sounding more ludicrous by the minute and your strawman is quickly losing his innards

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2016 06:04 PM (w4NZ8)

91 Ok, after 5, start drinking.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 08, 2016 06:04 PM (Z8DIA)

92 C) There is no movement to install a Draft

D) We ONLY have a registration for a Draft

Hey, nobody wants to get shot in the face with rock salt, either. You figure having a registration to do so just in case it comes up is a good idea?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:04 PM (39g3+)

93 How is that infringing upon anything? This surge of lobbying started back in the '60's.

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Just something about a petition for redresses. Want to get rid of lobbying - shrink the federal government. Everything else is just window dressing, and a Constitutional violation. With an exception for Insty's lobbying tax rate.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:04 PM (nVNy0)

94 I've said it before but Jeb looks like a teacher who gets caught taking "liberties" with the children. Something about his neck and his concussed stare.

Posted by: Naes at February 08, 2016 06:04 PM (Ypc8j)

95
Mickey Kaus

Rubio Delusion Syndrome: Kevin D. Williamson actually says Rubio wldn't want 2 sign amnesty bill if Cong sent him one. Insane

http://natl.re/MZr718

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 08, 2016 06:05 PM (kdS6q)

96 50 Jesus the Israeli Draft canard again by someone who doesn't have a clue about Israel. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Sigh is right...
I made the mistake of engaging the idiot earlier today (broke my own rule).
Don't waste your breath, buddy.

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 06:05 PM (OUpHg)

97 (XzRw1)

Seems to be on well deserved auto delete.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 08, 2016 06:05 PM (fbovC)

98 MUMR is in the recreation unit again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2016 06:06 PM (8ZskC)

99 2. 99% of women in IDF are paper pushers. Their "basic training" is 2 weeks long.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:03 PM (/PZoK)

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Sure thing.

"Clause 16A of the military service law requires that female combat soldiers serve 3 years of mandatory service, and continue in reserves service up to age 38, even if they become mothers. These are essentially identical to the terms of service for male combat soldiers. "

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 06:06 PM (0LHZx)

100 I'm not seeing why making women register for the draft, that we don't have, is all that radical. Nobody forced the social engineering in the military on women, they and their Democrat politicians fought for it. Gender equality.

Well that goes both ways. Maybe people should think about the ramifications of their actions. Doesn't seem all that radical to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 06:04 PM (/tuJf)

I am not against making Females "Register" for a Draft. BUT it is mostly just parlor room banter. We dont' have a Draft, Don't need a Draft, Don't want a Draft....and if there is ever a real WW3, it would go nuclear before a Draft would mean anything.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:06 PM (mw8Dm)

101 More foot in mouth for Marco. Hah.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 08, 2016 06:07 PM (oVJmc)

102 I take a little different view.... Political speech is an INDIVIDUAL Right... a person should be able to give as much of THEIR money as they want to political causes.

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Back to this again.

I'll just say this, such an approach, which I think completely wrong Constitutionally, would actually render many individuals with limited speech since there would be no way for those with low wealth to organize in a way that could compete with those with high wealth.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:07 PM (nVNy0)

103 Aaand, here we go.

Posted by: L, Elle at February 08, 2016 06:08 PM (2x3L+)

104 Jesus it's so stupid. Has no family in Israel i am sure and has never stepped foot in Israel.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:08 PM (mw8Dm)

105 You get none of that by forcing every third jobu on the street to fight.

Fastball I hit very much. But I can no hit curveball. So I give Jobu cigar and rum.

Posted by: Pedro Cerrano at February 08, 2016 06:08 PM (kpqmD)

106 But those Israeli soldier girls sure know how to look good

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:08 PM (39g3+)

107 Also, female police (mandatory drafted) have proven to be deathly inefficient in the recent wave of stabbings.

Women border guards were involved in an friendly fire accident while trying to shoot into the crowd after a stabbing attack, a female border guard was pictured eating a popsicle and dropping an M16 magazine when apprehending a suspected terrorist, just this week a female border guard unit was caught unprepared by terrorists resulting in a fatality and multiple injured.

Females can't fight. Israel was never a proof women can be adequate fighters - it's a living proof they can't.

Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (/PZoK)

108 If women are fighting on the front lines, how in the world will they pop out all those babies? This is a crazy idea. Absolutely crazy.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (0LHZx)

109 >>>This video of Rubio is kind of funny.
Posted by: Ace at 05:37 PM

Let's dispel with the notion that ace doesn't understand that Obama's domestic agenda is calculated socialism and his foreign policy is best described as winging it to politically preserve his domestic agenda.

Posted by: Crrr6 at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (r23qW)

110 Hey now, a woman can drive an armored vehicle as well as any man, so draft'm I say.

Posted by: Piran Pasco at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (or4ie)

111 To be fair he's regularly demonstrated he doesn't have a clue about the U.S. military either.
Posted by: buzzion
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Nor American automobile manufacturing, apparently...

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (OUpHg)

112 Nobody should have to register for the draft.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (FkBIv)

113 By the way not even all men serve a full 3 years anymore in Israel, and most women ( and much if this is depended on what they are trained to do in the Israeli Military) even serve 2 years anymore.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:10 PM (mw8Dm)

114 105 Jesus it's so stupid. Has no family in Israel i am sure and has never stepped foot in Israel.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:08 PM (mw8Dm)

++++

LOL. So only people who have family in country X can have an opinion about country X.

Got it.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 06:10 PM (0LHZx)

115 Are there any other kind?

Yes, there are. There was a lovely couple in the first church I served-One was an ex nun, and a very joyful person. The other one was sort of subdued but didn't seen particularly angry. I have met a number of lesbians who are not particularly angry. any more so than any other heterosexual person being angry. It depends on the people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2016 06:10 PM (w4NZ8)

116 most people in military are paper pushers, or supply trainers ... it is front line elite forces where it has become an issue, if I've read it correctly.

As a campaign issue, not sure what the right answer is. But sure, register them with the men. Cruz is trying to score "conservative" points, but not sure being for it wins anybody. Feminists maybe, if they are sure they'll never get called in real life.

Posted by: Illiniwek at February 08, 2016 06:10 PM (5Gpe2)

117 110 Hey now, a woman can drive an armored vehicle as well as any man, so draft'm I say.
Posted by: Piran Pasco at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (or4ie)

Ah, but what happens when they have to parallel park it?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 08, 2016 06:10 PM (oKE6c)

118 The Donald ( PBUH ) is a nationalist / populist, not a conservative.

That's Cool, because 'conservative' does not mean anything any more--because McCain and Dole and every Bush under the sun claimed to be 'conservative', along with GOPes like Sununu,et al

a nationalist / populist is like Mussolini without the funny hat and black shirt ( put that in for DRayRaven and AmishDude to fap to )

Posted by: Aldo Moro at February 08, 2016 06:11 PM (8CdUx)

119 I got my picture with four beautiful females of the IDF at the Western Wall. They were all carrying sidearms and M-16's. I felt like a dork asking for a picture but they obliged nicely.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 06:11 PM (OvUux)

120
Josh Kraushaar

A total 180: Limbaugh now arguing with his Trump-supporting callers, and going full throttle for Rubio on show today.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 08, 2016 06:11 PM (kdS6q)

121 "91 Ok, after 5, start drinking.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez "

You wait until 5? Hic.

Posted by: Grandma Hillary at February 08, 2016 06:11 PM (OD2ni)

122 " I always felt like a sucker, too. "Oh, could you get that for me? *blink blink blink* its so heavy!" "Gawrsh, missy, sure thing!"

Ahhh, the wimminz. Devious and plotting creatures they be.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (LA7Cm)

123 As a campaign issue, not sure what the right answer is.

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Why is the federal government requiring registration of any kind?

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (nVNy0)

124 it says "Congress shall make no law" and it doesn't say "or abridging the freedom of speech of individuals."

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (qSIlh)

125 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:08 PM (mw8Dm)

Best thing to do about Tiny creamer is just to ignore. I know it's hard not to and I've responded to him today or about him too, but he proves again and again thats he simply a troll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (w4NZ8)

126 I give Jobu cigar and rum.

Yo, bartender! Jobu needs a refill.

Posted by: Eddie Harris at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (39g3+)

127 Did you know that you can eat a pine tree?

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (Dwehj)

128 Just something about a petition for redresses. Want to get rid of lobbying - shrink the federal government. Everything else is just window dressing, and a Constitutional violation. With an exception for Insty's lobbying tax rate.

I've been trying to do that all of my voting life. It hasn't done a damned bit of good.

Fedzilla is officially out of control and is devouring the country.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (LUgeY)

129 Can't remember where I heard it but it always made sense to me:
"If you want to get money out of government, get the government out of money."
A small government operating within the enumerated powers wouldn't really have much to give away to contributors to make all the big-money bribery worthwhile.
Yeah, I know, but, just sayin'.
*goes back to drinkin'*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (Z8DIA)

130 Draft all the SJWs, it'll be great

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (0eidE)

131 I've read 2 books on woman in combat, one was a woman who disguised herself and served as a British marine at the time of colonial period (around the 7years war) serving aboard a few ships never to be discovered. There were more than 400 woman who disguised themselves as men and served in both army's of the American Civil War. I know of 1 woman who served in the Prussian Army in the Napoleoic wars and was amazingly after being discovered was after serving with distinction was permitted to stay. So the thing can be done, but it does breaks down cohesive of combat units and would lead to untold horrors.

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (HWcaz)

132 Heard on the news that North Korea's new satellite is out of control in a wobbling orbit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (FkBIv)

133 128 I give Jobu cigar and rum.

Yo, bartender! Jobu needs a refill.
Posted by: Eddie Harris at February 08, 2016 06:12 PM (39g3+)

Is very bad, steal Jobu's rum. Very bad.

Posted by: Pedro Cerrano at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (kpqmD)

134 just this week a female border guard unit was caught unprepared by terrorists resulting in a fatality and multiple injured.

Females can't fight. Israel was never a proof women can be adequate fighters - it's a living proof they can't.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (/PZoK)

Well hold on THAT is not true. The female Border guard who was killed intercepted those 3 terrorists before they could cause casualties to civilians, shot and killed one, and was killed herself by another terrorist. She died s HERO.

And many women in both Israel and the US Military do serve, and serve Honorably and with Distinction ( unlike that POS Berghdahl) in combat situations.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (mw8Dm)

135 A total 180: Limbaugh now arguing with his Trump-supporting callers, and going full throttle for Rubio on show today

Apparently the rumors about Rush are true and there are photographs. I'm done with him.

Posted by: ugg boots at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (fbovC)

136 "A total 180: Limbaugh now arguing with his Trump-supporting callers, and going full throttle for Rubio on show today."

I haven't listed lately but if this is the case what the fcuk is he drinking?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (LA7Cm)

137 he proves again and again thats he simply a troll.

Yeah, just when he seems to be reasonable and have something useful to say, he goes off on a bizarre bender.

Posted by: Eddie Harris at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (39g3+)

138
Sure thing.

"Clause 16A of the military service law requires that female combat soldiers serve 3 years of mandatory service, and continue in reserves service up to age 38, even if they become mothers. These are essentially identical to the terms of service for male combat soldiers. "
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 06:06 PM (0LHZx)

Sure thingie, keep quoting ridiculously untrue BS from teh interwebz.

IDF Females don't do 3 years, they do less than 2. They never get called into reserve duty (even the few ones with actual training and service in battle units). There are indeed listed as reservists, but it's a mere technicality. The only reason it exists is for allowing the authorities to call them for SOME sort of job in a truly cataclysmic scenario.

Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (/PZoK)

139 re 115: XzRw1 - didn't this witty person get banned?

Posted by: Satan of Cloggenstein Vt at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (qSIlh)

140 Fighting like hell against women in the military. And then topping it off by telling women their job in life is to pop out babies. And you say Republicans have problem getting women votes?

I am shocked.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (0LHZx)

141 Fedzilla is officially out of control and is devouring the country.

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Violating the 1st A isn't going to solve that problem. But it sure as heck will likely make it worse.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (nVNy0)

142 Hey idiot, I don't care about opinions, I care about abject ignorant stupid opinoins

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (mw8Dm)

143 >>>> LOL. So only people who have family in country X can have an opinion about country X.
Got it.
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No, Moo, but it may be possible that someone who is Jewish may have more knowledge about Israel than someone who isn't bc it's much more personal to them.

Of all people to challenge, NGU has probably more knowledge than most anyone here on Israel and Israeli politics along with a handful of other commenters. He demonstrates it routinely here bc he reads up on it. Why not concede he may be right and know something you don't, than pick another pointless fight?

Posted by: L, Elle at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (2x3L+)

144 Thank you ted cruz. we've never had a vote on women in combat that I can recall. We've certainly never had one about them being drafted. Nobody asked most women or men for that matter if they wanted this...it's stupid.

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (vmMMi)

145 Let's dispel with the notion that reading ace's Rubio posts are any different than reading the Huffington Post.

Posted by: Crrr6 at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (r23qW)

146 "Trump: Yes, I'd Tell Syrian Kids To Their Faces That They Can't Come To The U.S."

"I can look at their faces and say you can't come," Trump replied. "We don't know where their parents come from. They have no documentation."

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:15 PM (Fo9A9)

147 Perhaps my fellow 'rons can put me some knowledge here. I did not watch the debate Saturday night, but it is my understanding that Marco Rubio made the comment that Obama is not incompetent at all, but rather all the things that he has done have been part of his effort to radically transform America. It is also my understanding that he repeated this several times. So now, he is taking flack (from Christie, of all people) for his repetition. The problem I have is that I believe Rubio is absolutely right (on this particular point). But it seems as though nobody else does, and that, in attacking Rubio for making this point, those who are attacking him are defending Obama. Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

Posted by: DaveinNC at February 08, 2016 06:15 PM (/NgNT)

148 Just because women suck at combat compared to men, doesn't mean we can't draft them. The time for equality is now!

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:16 PM (0eidE)

149 So, Trump rails against Big Pharma, Big Oil, and Evil Corporations of Evil. Color me shocked. He may as well just drop the bomb and go full Halliburton. Why not Big Tobacco while he's at it? Why not Big Unions?

He's suddenly "Buzz" Windrip.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 06:16 PM (iIzG7)

150 Posted by: Crrr6

Concern noted. Now go get your fucking shinebox.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at February 08, 2016 06:16 PM (zmW4B)

151 Hats...for bats...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Whale Inc at February 08, 2016 06:17 PM (+aCe4)

152 Want to get rid of lobbying - shrink the federal government.

Yep. That's the answer to money in politics, campaign finance, and the rest of corruption. If the government was not so powerful and had so much money to fling around, the attraction to corrupt would be significantly reduced.

Posted by: Eddie Harris at February 08, 2016 06:17 PM (39g3+)

153 Where the hell is SMFH when we need her?
Do I need to send out the BatSignal?

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 06:17 PM (OUpHg)

154 Like Ngu said, shit will go nuclear if it gets to the point that a draft is needed.

This selective service shit is useless, regardless of the kind of bits you're lugging around.

But I have to admit, it's funny hearing all the crickets from the usual suspects regarding females registering for selective service.

Kudos to the Army/Marines brass that told those ladies to eat all the dicks. "Want equality? Here ya go, enjoy."

Posted by: SMFH at February 08, 2016 06:17 PM (rlfds)

155 "Heard on the news that North Korea's new satellite is out of control in a wobbling orbit. "

Well, looks like somebody will be eating a mortar round.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 08, 2016 06:17 PM (LA7Cm)

156 Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:07 PM (nVNy0)

There is no perfect solution...

The 'poor' could contribute to political parties... or to Campaigns directly...

The problem now is companies like GE... or much of Wall Street... who use OTHER people money (ie money belonging to the business) to get involved in politics.

Which is why NEITHER Parties politicians are listening to the People... they are listening to Businesses... because that is where the majority of their MONEY is coming from...

You work for the one who pays you.... and in this case... they are working for those who give the biggest campaign contributions.

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:17 PM (f7rv6)

157 Fighting like hell against women in the military. And then topping it off by telling women their job in life is to pop out babies. And you say Republicans have problem getting women votes?

I am shocked.

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Really? No one is fighting like hell against women in the military. We are fighting to keep them drafted. I'm not sure why I even bothered.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:18 PM (nVNy0)

158 Fighting like hell against women in the military. And then topping it off by telling women their job in life is to pop out babies. And you say Republicans have problem getting women votes?

I am shocked.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 08, 2016 06:14 PM (0LHZx)

psssst

all those feminists and rad fems? they do not want to sign up for selective service

opposing it is a good idea. I don't want anyone serving who doesnt want to be there. It would be havoc, especially if you add women to the mix

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:18 PM (zOTsN)

159 Lea- Then problem is hardly anyone gets asked by leftists to go along with their social experiment

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:18 PM (HWcaz)

160 Nobody should have to register for the draft.
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This.

If you can't make enough of a case that a war is worth fighting for people to volunteer for it, it doesn't need fighting.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 08, 2016 06:18 PM (ZbV+0)

161 Draft the SJWs- Our crack slapfighting squad will strike fear into the hearts of our enemies.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Whale Inc at February 08, 2016 06:18 PM (0x/TW)

162 IDF Females don't do 3 years, they do less than 2. They never get called into reserve duty (even the few ones with actual training and service in battle units). There are indeed listed as reservists, but it's a mere technicality. The only reason it exists is for allowing the authorities to call them for SOME sort of job in a truly cataclysmic scenario.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (/PZoK)

Exactly, except some do reserve duty "Miluim" but yes those are the small minority and they have usually volunteered during Initial Military training and service that if they go into that Field and get hat advanced Training they will be subject to recall and they agree to that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:18 PM (mw8Dm)

163 >>> hell is SMFH when we need her?
Do I need to send out the BatSignal?

You are now the official BatSignaller.

Posted by: fluffy at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (AfsKp)

164 Crrr6

your mother blows sailors for quarters. Over and out

Posted by: Aldo Moro at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (8CdUx)

165 I will not be making a cameo appearance in HBOs reboot of Westworld. Westworld.

Posted by: Marco Rubio Rubio Rubio Rubio at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (UBS9M)

166 The problem I have is that I believe Rubio is absolutely right (on this
particular point). But it seems as though nobody else does, and that, in
attacking Rubio for making this point, those who are attacking him are
defending Obama. Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

DaveinNC-
Nobody is attacking Senator PlugnPlay for suggesting that Obama is a malignant America-hater. Lots of people think that. The subject matter isn't the issue; it's that Rubio can't think for himself, and the depth of his knowledge appears to extend no further than 25 second sound bites.

Posted by: pep at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (LAe3v)

167 Well hold on THAT is not true. The female Border guard who was killed intercepted those 3 terrorists before they could cause casualties to civilians, shot and killed one, and was killed herself by another terrorist. She died s HERO.

And many women in both Israel and the US Military do serve, and serve Honorably and with Distinction ( unlike that POS Berghdahl) in combat situations.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:13 PM (mw8Dm)

Everyone, including the unit commanders, agreed there was a major fuckup of putting young female soldiers on this spot in an early training stage.

You can't just pretend that "an hero" status of the poor girl by a maniac with a really bad Carl Gustav was unpreventable.

Women serve with distinctions? Who judges giving out those distinctions, if not the social reprogrammers inside the military? I haven't seen a single case where a female achieved something an average male soldier wouldn't, and I have seen more than a few cases where female involvement got people killed in unforced situations.

Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (/PZoK)

168 Oh yeah, a bunch of Mattress Girls in the ranks.

What the fuck could go wrong?

Posted by: SMFH at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (rlfds)

169 Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

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Ya, it's destroy the republican candidate. Odd thing is, it's other republicans who are doing it. Eventually, once all the republican candidates are effectively discredited, who ya gonna vote for?

Destroy Rubio, Destroy Cruz, Destroy Trump, who's left?

Posted by: Piran Pasco at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (or4ie)

170 In the near-future the majority of soldiers will only be required to be adept at using joysticks to control the drone fleets sent to kill people and break things. If you're investing, I'd recommend snapping up stock in Doritos and Five-Hour Energy while they're relatively cheap.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (ppaKI)

171 You work for the one who pays you.... and in this case... they are working for those who give the biggest campaign contributions.

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Who's working for the NRA?

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (nVNy0)

172 He said he would not raise military spending, arguing that the nation's defenses can be improved without increasing its already huge Pentagon budget.
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Less "smart bombs", more consistent bombing overall.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (5LOno)

173 Hudson: Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?
Vasquez: No. Have you?

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (OvUux)

174 Heh. Hi, LJ.

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (OUpHg)

175 Say we close down combat positions for women, why not still draft them? The army needs clerks and nurses.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (0eidE)

176
Well, looks like somebody will be eating a mortar round.----Ricardo Kill

Wrong end

Posted by: Kim the Illest at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (uhftQ)

177 Israeli soldier girls: good for national morale, not necessarily military capacity

http://tinyurl.com/hts3qpl

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (39g3+)

178 My take? If they want their gender equality to fight in front line combat units, then make them register for the draft. I can't imagine a land war big enough to require a draft anymore as any big war would be over before you could initiate the draft and then move them out of boot camp to the front lines. Even some of the war scenarios between the Warsaw Pact/Soviets and NATO wouldn't have lasted more than a month because of the rate they would have gone through materiel and equipment.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (9iR5/)

179 Women don't want to be drafted, you fucking idiot.

Posted by: Lauren at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (3DIzJ)

180 Moo Moo, your tax returns. WHERE ARE THEY?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (8ZskC)

181 'Sup Chi.

Posted by: SMFH at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (rlfds)

182 "The problem I have is that I believe Rubio is absolutely right (on this particular point). But it seems as though nobody else does, and that, in attacking Rubio for making this point, those who are attacking him are defending Obama. Can anyone tell me what's going on here?"

The point was not what Rubio was saying it's that it's scripted like a robot. Like a robot that knows what the voters want to hear not that he believes it or even understands it just that he's programmed.

Rubio sold Florida voters on being against amnesty. During one of his early Senate run speeches he was for amnesty/legal pathways etc. The Tea Party groups told him in no uncertain terms that that was not acceptable. He told them he learned from them and would hold true to their non-amnesty wishes. He was very, very convincing and the voters had to take a risk with him because of Christ.

Well, he's just a very scripted liar. That's why it doesn't matter what he says...it's a lie.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (Fo9A9)

183 psssst

doesnt keep women who want to serve out of the service

not for decades

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (zOTsN)

184 Violating the 1st A isn't going to solve that problem. But it sure as heck will likely make it worse.

Again, how is stopping lobbying a violation of the Constitution. Like it matters anymore, but I'm curious.

And that's a good question from upthread: why does our government register lobbyists?

I'm of the opinion that the only other people our "representatives" in DC interact with is lobbyists which is why they never listen to us proles. Yeah, I think that's a big problem that we didn't used to have and that can be stopped.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (LUgeY)

185 "In what is properly termed an "insane moment" in Saturday's debate, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, and Jeb Bush all agreed with the suggestion that, now that women are approved (by Obama's radical social engineering executive order) for all combat positions, girls should therefore be signed up with Selective Service for any future draft."
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Why is this insane? So let me get this straight they want all this equal protection and opportunity to serve, but they want special protection from selective service? I'm not arguing the "if they should be there question", I'd say though if you are going to put them there though then you darn well better include them in selective service as well.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (MbrzC)

186 El Gobernador Heb also is vocally promising to "focus like a laser" if he becomes the next President.

Without apparent awareness that this is one of Barack Obama's signature tropes, which has been being trotted out by Barky about ten times a month for the last seven years, and which is by now sounding incredibly tatty and shopworn.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (noWW6)

187 Women don't want to be drafted, you fucking idiot.
Posted by: Lauren at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (3DIzJ)

Neither do many guys, but who cares what people want. The time for equality is now.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (0eidE)

188 >>Lea- Then problem is hardly anyone gets asked by leftists to go along with their social experiment
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:18 PM (HWcaz)

Exactly. And then people are like 'you wanted this women' which probably most of us did not. But we didn't get asked. Or get to vote.

I think women make more sense as a last line of defense for the Homefront as a practical thing anyway but I'm sure the nuclear issue will make some of this moot.

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (vmMMi)

189 If you can't make enough of a case that a war is worth fighting for people to volunteer for it, it doesn't need fighting.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006

Ah, so the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, and Vietnam didn't need to be fought? Good to know.

Posted by: pep at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (LAe3v)

190 Israel isn't a global operating military

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (HWcaz)

191 Like a hair in a biscuit...

Tucker says Hi.

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (OUpHg)

192 Let's dispel with the notion that ace was never a supporter of noted amnesty hawk, Rick Perry. Or, not.

Posted by: Crrr6 at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (r23qW)

193 But Companies are NOT People... nor are Unions... they HAVE no Natural
Rights because they are Legal Constructs... and thus should NOT be able
to use money for Politics...

George Soros approves this message.

Posted by: DaveA at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (DL2i+)

194 Women and the draft? I'm in favor, if you're talking about Marilyn Monroe and a steam grate. Otherwise, no.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (iIzG7)

195 70
I work in manufacturing. We have to move 55 gallon drums and 50lb sacks
of darko/filter aids/etc. Every time a female at work asks me to move
them for her I just say "Equal work for equal pay" and keep moving.

Posted by: ChocoCheese at February 08, 2016 06:00 PM (OvUux)

I would too. You can't even have a fucking men's club in this country anymore without some loudmouth bitch throwing a shit fit over it.You wanted the job, now fucking do it.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (4ErVI)

196 Women serve with distinctions? Who judges giving out those distinctions, if not the social reprogrammers inside the military? I haven't seen a single case where a female achieved something an average male soldier wouldn't, and I have seen more than a few cases where female involvement got people killed in unforced situations.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:19 PM (/PZoK)

I am sorry you feel that way, but there are many case both here and Israel where women Medics/Corpsmen have performed wonders and have been recognized as such. Many Females members of my Unit have deployed to a War zone and done wonders.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (mw8Dm)

197 Females can't fight. Israel was never a proof women can be adequate fighters - it's a living proof they can't.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:09 PM (/PZoK)

We're NOT supposed to fight. We are SUPPOSED to be what men find worthy of defending and fighting FOR.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (oQQwD)

198 well, the us govt should be negotiating drug prices for medicare / medicaid / va / indian health services / etc, considering the US govt is the single largest insurance company in the country.

Or, alternatively, we could get rid of govt medical welfare programs.

haha, yeah right

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (AkOaV)

199 "Trump: Yes, I'd Tell Syrian Kids To Their Faces That They Can't Come To The U.S."

Ted Cruz hands out teddy bears instead.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (Fo9A9)

200 Hillary's Known Unknowns, redux.

Let's start with "facts" that have been leaked to the media.

FBI Director Comey has had 100+ people on this case. The FBI has had Hillary's entire server since July, which has something like 35,000 e-mails that Hillary did not turn over to State. The FBI is good at data recovery, if the server was actually wiped clean.

Comey is nominally a Republican, but is an Obama appointee with a reputation as a straight shooter. He has many years still to run on a ten-year term.

Huma, Cheryl and Jake recently got RSVPs from the FBI to "come on in and talk" which they declined on advice of counsel.

With facts already in the public domain, a decent team of lawyers could write a criminal referral. Standard isn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Facts show that Hillary's minions took classified communications off the secure government server to forward them to Hillary. There's an e-mail that shows that Hillary knew this was going on and directed it. E-mails with Sid Blumenthal show that Hillary was sharing information with non-approved sources. There are many crimes here, several of which have a lesser standard of recklessness, not actual knowledge.

Known Unknown #1. Will the FBI issue a criminal referral? I can't see how Comey can't.

Known Unknown #2. If so, when? RSVPs to Huma, Cheryl and Jake suggest that it's wrapping up.

Known Unknown #3. Will it leak? At least three high level people in the loop have already been leaking including to Fox. I'd say count on it.

Known Unknown #4. Will Clinton Cash pay-for-play be in the mix. Let us pray! There was a leak that "public corruption" was being looked at. If included, it'd be the Melon Shot to take down the Elephant. E-mails on the server can connect the dots, but there's enough dots there already.

Known Unknown #5. If leaked will Hillary quit? She won't go quietly. She may argue that criminal referral isn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt. That leaks violate her rights. But in the end, Hillary is already a weak candidate and getting weaker. The Democrats are flirting with disaster of their own making if they let Hillary or Bernie be their nominee.

If so, the DOJ and Loretta Lynch and Obama don't have influence on this, although they would over an indictment and whether the Hillary Gang goes to jail. They may actually want it that way, as it makes Comey the heavy and Hillary's downfall of her own making.

Developing ....

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (r1fLd)

201 Trump: Yes, I'd Tell Syrian Kids To Their Faces That They Can't Come To The U.S."
***
Anyone ask Obama, Clinton, or MSM talking Heads whether they would tell the rapefugees they can't come live in their *house*?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (5LOno)

202 Posted by: Old Blue at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (9iR5/)

If Obama and his military fluffers had gotten their way, we wouldn't have any A-10s and the Russians would be through the Fulda Gap and into Western Europe before we could get any reinforcements to Europe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (Zu3d9)

203 Israel isn't a global operating military
Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (HWcaz)

Apparently, our military is 15% female. Why not make women draft to keep at least that ratio in the future? Some of them are great generals even.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (0eidE)

204 38 Why is a state were Democrats can vote for a Republican the 2nd one up for a primary?

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (HWcaz)
---
Cause GOPe.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:24 PM (MbrzC)

205 We're NOT supposed to fight. We are SUPPOSED to be what men find worthy of defending and fighting FOR.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (oQQwD)

Have you met the crazy women out here lately? You're the exception worth fighting for.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:24 PM (0eidE)

206 "Apparently the rumors about Rush are true and there are photographs."

So fanny-bandit, eh?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 08, 2016 06:24 PM (LA7Cm)

207 Which chimera creature is creepier?

Puppymonkeybaby

OR

KasichBernieHillary

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:24 PM (NeFrd)

208 " but who cares what people want. The time for equality is now."

Nope. Fuck that. Women have babies. Men protect the babies. That's the way the world works regardless of what the social engineers want.

Posted by: Lauren at February 08, 2016 06:24 PM (3DIzJ)

209 https://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/08/30/fighting-life-female-paramedics-operation-protective-edge/

Female Israeli Medic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (mw8Dm)

210 Again, how is stopping lobbying a violation of the Constitution.

If I cannot hire someone to represent my interests to a congressman, that's definitely violating my freedom of speech.

Oh, its kind of complicated but in the modern era, money is speech. Cutting off money spent for reaching people is cutting off speech.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (39g3+)

211 Again, how is stopping lobbying a violation of the Constitution. Like it matters anymore, but I'm curious.

And that's a good question from upthread: why does our government register lobbyists?

------------

Does the NRA lobby? How about Right to Life? If I want to petition my grievances to the government, I should be able to organized with others who have the similar grievance How do we petition against the government our grievances?

Regarding the registration - frankly that appears to violate the constitution also.

Lobbying is a symptom of a government that has expanded well beyond its Constitutional limitations. Ending lobbying will not solve it.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (nVNy0)

212 Which chimera creature is creepier?

Puppymonkeybaby

OR

KasichBernieHillary
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:24 PM (NeFrd)

+1

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (0eidE)

213

psssttttt nothing is stopping those gals from marching right down to the recruiting office today and signing up

except the weight restrictions

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (zOTsN)

214
Michael Barbaro

a 92-year-old woman asked Rubio if Sen Lindsay Graham was gay

twitter.com/mikiebarb/status/696802088861507584

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (kdS6q)

215 We are SUPPOSED to be what men find worthy of defending and fighting FOR.

Correct. Women are supposed to be what men fight to come back home to. The fact that many are not these days doesn't change that.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:26 PM (39g3+)

216 Nope. Fuck that. Women have babies. Men protect the babies. That's the way the world works regardless of what the social engineers want.

Posted by: Lauren at February 08, 2016 06:24 PM (3DIzJ)

Agreed, but our laws don't reflect that.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:26 PM (0eidE)

217 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4559453,00.html

Female Israeli Medics

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:26 PM (mw8Dm)

218 Posted by: pep at February 08, 2016 06:22 PM (LAe3v)

What right do you have to demand other people die for a cause they don't consider worthy?

There were a great many volunteers for both the world wars and I don't know about Korea. But no, the civil war and vietnam weren't worth fighting, not given the objectives of the folks making the decisions.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 08, 2016 06:26 PM (ZbV+0)

219 Shake a leg, Hymie.

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at February 08, 2016 06:26 PM (FkBIv)

220 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 06:21 PM (LUgeY)

we have a right to redress grievances.

Because here's what would happen if we "outlawed lobbyists."

the 'special interests' would still have a seat at the table, but annoying tea party or occupy wall street types or whomever would be barred from talking to congress.

We all know how DC works.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:26 PM (AkOaV)

221 Why, I pay more in milk taxes than you rubes will make in a lifetime. Eleventy!!11!!

Posted by: Mr. Doo Doo at February 08, 2016 06:27 PM (Dwehj)

222 "Trump: Yes, I'd Tell Syrian Kids To Their Faces That They Can't Come To The U.S."

"I can look at their faces and say you can't come," Trump replied. "We don't know where their parents come from. They have no documentation."

We're full.

Of Mexicans.

Burro out front should've told you.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 06:27 PM (LUgeY)

223
except the weight restrictions
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (zOTsN)

And Height- at least for Navy- Must be 4 Foot 9 Inches at least

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:27 PM (mw8Dm)

224 There were a great many volunteers for both the world wars and I don't know about Korea. But no, the civil war and vietnam weren't worth fighting, not given the objectives of the folks making the decisions.
Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 08, 2016 06:26 PM (ZbV+0)

nor was WWI worth fighting.

WWII we had no choice. But pretty much every other war since the War of 1812 has been a war of choice.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:27 PM (AkOaV)

225 >>Which chimera creature is creepier?

>>Puppymonkeybaby

>>OR

>>KasichBernieHillary

Kasich goes in the middle.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 06:27 PM (/tuJf)

226 Seriously, pep, that kind of bullshit is why we didn't want another king.

Posted by: Methos, AoS commenter since 2006, apparently also non-voting democrat at February 08, 2016 06:28 PM (ZbV+0)

227 admin, legal, medical, support, non combat, there are a ton of jobs for women if they can do them

just march right down and sign up. I'll wait

BTW did you hear about that pioneering woman who got Ranger training and promptly went AWOL for 18 days

head case

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:28 PM (zOTsN)

228 I'm all for having women register for Selective Service now that the Pentagon has ordered women be allowed to serve in combat roles. You want equality? You get it good and hard. All of the radfems pushing for combat roles for other women should have some skin in the game. It's not equality if every 18 year old male has to throw his hat in the ring, and all of the women get it as an option. Expose the lie for what it is and see how fast they backpedal. Just for the record, I am a veteran and a woman.

Posted by: no good deed at February 08, 2016 06:28 PM (GgxVX)

229 Young men must register for Selectuve Service in order to qualify for many Federal benefits and they may be punished if they don't.

Women don't have to do that. The justification was the combat exclusion rule and that no longer exists. The first time this lands in court it will get overturned.

Congress will not vote to amend the Selective Service Act to include women, so it will go away.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2016 06:29 PM (2Ocf1)

230 Donald Trump is Huey P. Long without the brains, balls or bribes.

Posted by: whatmeworry at February 08, 2016 06:29 PM (dZGNV)

231 "Anyone ask Obama, Clinton, or MSM talking Heads whether they would tell the rapefugees they can't come live in their *house*?"

Daily Mail - A ten year old boy raped in at an Austrian pool by an Iraqi migrant.

It's just a horror in Europe.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:29 PM (Fo9A9)

232 Is he the lesser Cruz, or Romney with a latin flavor?

Romney + Rumba = Rubio

Romney Goes Rumba!

Like so:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-hk_7Ln-MM

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 06:29 PM (KUa85)

233 Everyone does realize there are more than enough men in the country to fulfill every position in the military if one wanted to.

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (HWcaz)

234 >>BTW did you hear about that pioneering woman who got Ranger training and promptly went AWOL for 18 days
head case

Seriously? Sheesh. Friends daughter signed up for the army, full of patriotic reasons. Promptly got depressed that she might go to war and got a medical discharge or something.

Women aren't men. Some women are built for this sort of thing and many women can serve in support roles as they have for a very long time. That doesn't mean they need to be drafted to the front lines.

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (vmMMi)

235 "I can look at their faces and say you can't come," Trump replied. "We don't know where their parents come from. They have no documentation."

Why doesn't one of these guys say "I'd work with the nations of the middle east to find them somewhere safe and stable to live there. It is wrong and uncaring to wrench someone out of their culture and language and place them far from home when so many options for where they could live nearby are possible for the right leader to develop."

I know Trump won't he's all about saying stuff and no actual specific policy, but someone else could step up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (39g3+)

236 BTW did you hear about that pioneering woman who got Ranger training and promptly went AWOL for 18 days

head case
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:28 PM (zOTsN)

She went AWOL?!

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (0eidE)

237 We're NOT supposed to fight. We are SUPPOSED to be what men find worthy of defending and fighting FOR.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (oQQwD)

Holy shit is that one of the most egomaniacal and narcissistic things I've ever heard. Women are supposed to be what men are fighting for? What about freedom, country, principles, the brother in arms next to them? Jesus.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (kpqmD)

238 "When your success revolves around getting the government to prevent
reimportation of drugs you sell the rest of the world at $5 a pill in
order to maintain the $5000 a pop you charge us, it might be time for
some generally punitive action."

Yes, the solution to problems created by government are best solved by punitive government action.

Stifling medical innovation will keep costs down. As long as you don't worry about the whole quality of life/excess mortality thing.

Instead of cheering for Washington to become more aggressive in policing our health care costs we should be fighting for less government involvement and more free market solutions.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (kf2iZ)

239 Can they bring up getting rid of Selective Service altogether, or does that not poll well with the nearly-dead set?

Posted by: a phoenician sailor at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (v6Kzh)

240 Congress will not vote to amend the Selective Service Act to include women, so it will go away.
Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2016 06:29 PM (2Ocf1)

Don't worry some GOP already put a bill up too just in case.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (0eidE)

241 Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:28 PM (zOTsN)

There are also tons of near combat, combat related, and pretty much full combat that women can do if they really want to. Have been able to do for the last 20 years...but most dont' choice to do so. Nor will most choose to do so in the future...This is all just a left wing wet dream and an a attempt to destroy the Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (mw8Dm)

242 180 Women don't want to be drafted, you fucking idiot.
Posted by: Lauren at February 08, 2016 06:20 PM (3DIzJ)

This.

Plus, even ladies who are all applauding the combat roles being opened up to women aren't running down to join up. Hell, even in the military the number of women who want to try to get into those units is minuscule.

It's not PC but as a sex in general we are not suited for that kind of thing. I'm certainly not and compared to just about all of the other women I'm personally acquainted with I'm pretty level-headed and capable. I cannot imagine the epic-scale clusterfark that would ensue if the ladies I know we're to be drafted into combat.

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (KkVB6)

243 If there is a draft for women there will suddenly be a mass of pregnancies and abortion will be non-existent for the duration.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (Fo9A9)

244 >>Puppymonkeybaby

>>OR

>>KasichBernieHillary

Kasich goes in the middle.

Posted by: JackStraw

****

Yeah, I struggled with that for like 10 seconds, since that was my first instinct. But Kasich seems more puppy-ish and Bernie seems more monkey-ish so I went with what you see.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (NeFrd)

245 Why doesn't one of these guys say "I'd work with the nations of the middle east to find them somewhere safe and stable to live there.
***
I'd like to see someone in the gutless GOPe ask Obama if he is ready to apologize for creating ISIS yet.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (5LOno)

246 Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:28 PM (zOTsN)

I see nothing wrong with women in the military. They can drive trucks, cook food, be logistics officers, on staffs, etc.

My mom drove a truck in 1947-1948 so that some man who could actually fight could be on the front lines instead of driving cans of beans to the kitchens.

But in combat? it's fvcking insane.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2016 06:32 PM (Zu3d9)

247 224
except the weight restrictions
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:25 PM (zOTsN)

And Height- at least for Navy- Must be 4 Foot 9 Inches at least
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:27 PM (mw8Dm)

But they can't be much taller than that to fit in the torpedoes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 08, 2016 06:32 PM (kpqmD)

248 I'm all for having women register for Selective Service now that the Pentagon has ordered women be allowed to serve in combat roles. You want equality? You get it good and hard. All of the radfems pushing for combat roles for other women should have some skin in the game. It's not equality if every 18 year old male has to throw his hat in the ring, and all of the women get it as an option. Expose the lie for what it is and see how fast they backpedal. Just for the record, I am a veteran and a woman.

Posted by: no good deed

Im a female vet too. I dont want them there unless they volunteered. Dont want some fat tatooed blue haired pierced whiney ass baby fucking things up

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:32 PM (zOTsN)

249 151 Posted by: Crrr6

Concern noted. Now go get your fucking shinebox.

um blow me?

Posted by: Crrr6 at February 08, 2016 06:32 PM (r23qW)

250 You know, no corporation wants to dump money into lobbying a federal government that has no power.

Seems like a pretty obvious answer to me and the one I give to liberals who complain about money in politics.

Posted by: Reality Man at February 08, 2016 06:33 PM (Ch0fq)

251 "Why doesn't one of these guys say "I'd work with the nations of the middle east to find them somewhere safe and stable to live there."

I didn't post the whole thing. Trump will create safe zones in their own countries. Like it used to be done.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:33 PM (Fo9A9)

252 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (NeFrd)

Ah...but Kasich is, at least nominally, A Republican, and his position must be in the rear, eating Democrat shit.....

It's tradition.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2016 06:33 PM (Zu3d9)

253 >>>even ladies who are all applauding the combat roles being opened up to women aren't running down to join up. Hell, even in the military the number of women who want to try to get into those units is minuscule.

I think it's like that ninja warrior show (or whatever it's called). There are a handful of women capable of it compared to a lot more men, mostly because of upper body strength. So there are some women, a small number, who may be interested in and capable of these sorts of things. That doesn't mean everybody else wants to sign up.

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (vmMMi)

254 If I cannot hire someone to represent my interests to a congressman, that's definitely violating my freedom of speech.

Oh, its kind of complicated but in the modern era, money is speech. Cutting off money spent for reaching people is cutting off speech.

And if I can't get in to see my Congresscritter because of all the lobbyists, then what just happened to my 1-A right?

If lobbyists can be registered, then they can be restricted. I'm all for that.

How did we get to the point that the CoC can convince lawmakers to keep the Mexican border open despite the information that a lot of new jobs are going to illegals? When it gets to that point, we have truly lost control of our own government. How do we fix it?

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (LUgeY)

255 Im a female vet too. I dont want them there unless they volunteered. Dont want some fat tatooed blue haired pierced whiney ass baby fucking things up

Right, I don't want anyone there who didn't volunteer. I actually support getting rid of Selective Service all together. This may be the way to do it.

Posted by: no good deed at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (GgxVX)

256 You know, no corporation wants to dump money into lobbying a federal government that has no power.

------------

Eliminating the corporate income tax would reduce lobbying as much as anything.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (nVNy0)

257 Donald Trump is Huey P. Long without the brains, balls or bribes.

No, that's Sanders. A chicken in every pot, indeed.

Trump is P.T. Barnum.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (39g3+)

258 Im a female vet too. I dont want them there unless they volunteered. Dont want some fat tatooed blue haired pierced whiney ass baby fucking things up
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:32 PM (zOTsN)

She probably wouldn't last too long and would get tossed into a supply position.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (0eidE)

259 Just for record I served with women, I just don't like them in combat units, they are already closer than I lkke

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (HWcaz)

260 >>KasichBernieHillary

Kasich goes in the middle.

Posted by: JackStraw

I vote for Human Centipede with Kasich in the middle.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (KUa85)

261 I've got the microcephalic dwarf vote locked up!

Posted by: Michael Bloomberg at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (UBS9M)

262
I am sorry you feel that way, but there are many case both here and Israel where women Medics/Corpsmen have performed wonders and have been recognized as such. Many Females members of my Unit have deployed to a War zone and done wonders.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (mw8Dm)

I am confident your experiences are genuine, however, I can only relate to my own.

I am certain that a specific strain of the female variety is capable of tolerating intense physical strain and immense psychological pressure inside a battle (a tolerance which, incidentally, involves the MALE hormone). I also know that many men just can't handle battle situation. Hell, some can't handle any stressful situation, even one without physical a dimension.

But, the existence of a deviant sample does not make a good excuse for a policy, especially one involving saving lives and keeping entire nations safe.

Women do not belong in combat roles, period. I know what I'm talking about.

Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (/PZoK)

263 Shit yeah draft women. Put them in non-combat jobs and free up the guys to fight instead of driving desks. Drafting women doesn't have to equal women in combat.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (3E4R3)

264 Eliminating the corporate income tax would reduce lobbying as much as anything.
Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (nVNy0)

They'd still lobby in the regulation and H1B1 visa arenas.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (0eidE)

265 Everything is going to be alright once Marco's wetware is transitioned from GOPbot modules for imbeciles to sexbot modules for the ladies and lady-boys.

Posted by: Fritz at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (BngQR)

266 245 >>Puppymonkeybaby

>>OR

>>KasichBernieHillary

Kasich goes in the middle.

Posted by: JackStraw

****

Yeah, I struggled with that for like 10 seconds, since that was my first instinct. But Kasich seems more puppy-ish and Bernie seems more monkey-ish so I went with what you see.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (NeFrd)

But you want the hands to be Kasich, so he has to be the middle.

Posted by: buzzion at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (zt+N6)

267 The first woman in Tennessee and the fourth in the nation to enlist as a combat engineer in the Army went AWOL last month and is now considered a deserter, according to a military spokesperson.

Erika Lopez made headlines in July when she enlisted for a role that could put her on the front lines of battle, just after the U.S. Army lifted its ban on women in combat roles.

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (zOTsN)

268 You don't get to be in the Infantry just because it helps your career. This is not equality.

Women want to get all the benefits of the military they need to bear the same costs.

Posted by: blaster at February 08, 2016 06:36 PM (2Ocf1)

269
She went AWOL?!
Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (0eidE)

if It's the same chick I'm thinking of, she went AWOL for 30 days and is now labeled a "deserter"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:36 PM (AkOaV)

270 Women do not belong in combat roles, period. I know what I'm talking about.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (/PZoK)

Think most of us agree, but we don't care about that little bit.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:36 PM (0eidE)

271 "Clause 16A of the military service law requires that female combat soldiers serve 3 years of mandatory service, and continue in reserves service up to age 38, even if they become mothers. These are essentially identical to the terms of service for male combat soldiers.[3] Each year, 1,500 female combat soldiers are drafted into the IDF.[6] Women currently make up 3% of the IDF's combat soldiers.[8] Women were not employed in combat roles until 2000, when the Caracal Battalion was raised." Wikipedia
AFAIK no Israeli woman has served in a frontline combat role since 1949.

Posted by: whatmeworry at February 08, 2016 06:36 PM (dZGNV)

272
if It's the same chick I'm thinking of, she went AWOL for 30 days and is now labeled a "deserter"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:36 PM (AkOaV)

All I'm seeing is some tennessee guard chick in the news being awol.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (0eidE)

273 And if I can't get in to see my Congresscritter because of all the lobbyists, then what just happened to my 1-A right?

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Nothing. Your first amendment right is not impacted by lobbyist in any way. If you think it does, then you must be in favor of getting rid of hate speech, because that is the same argument they use.

On your second question, I'm sure that is the thought of the government. They are wrong.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (nVNy0)

274 Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (vmMMi)

but a small Man can be FORCED to fight?

(trust me, I don't think Women should be in combat units, but if they are going to be there... it needs to be EQUAL.. or the absurdity will never end... and Men will die because of it).

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (f7rv6)

275 Oh ffs,

Apparently some assholes are throwing rocks from the other side of the highway on I35 in Austin.

I'm guessing muslims or pissed of liberal "activists".

Posted by: Lauren at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (0C2f1)

276
It's tradition.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

****

So, HillaryBernieKasich?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (NeFrd)

277 I joined the army 'cause my father and my brother were in the army. I figured I better join before I got drafted.
Sister, there ain't no draft no more.
There was one?

Posted by: Helen J Turkster at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (kf2iZ)

278 Everything is going to be alright once Marco's wetware is transitioned from GOPbot modules for imbeciles to sexbot modules for the ladies and lady-boys.
Posted by: Fritz

#TwoWeeks

Posted by: Japanese Sexbots Ltd at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (zmW4B)

279 An Israeli engineer I met here in Commiefornia a couple of years ago had gone through IDF basic, then been assigned to a regular-army unit, then had been selected on the basis of strong performance to go to a sayeret, the IDF's spec-ops cadre. (Note also: Benjamin Netanyahu and his brother went this route.)

The sayeret units were male-only, including medics and other support staff, and he said he preferred that by far. It was a calmer, cleaner, more professionalized environment in which to be doing dangerous things for a living.

Mixing healthy young heterosexuals in forced close contact under military conditions, as was the doctrine in the mainline IDF at the time, was in his experience horribly corrosive to unit morale, discipline, and cohesion.

Especially with the officer corps. It drove the majority of good officers crazy with personnel management headaches, and it further weakened/distracted/corrupted the handful of bad officers.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2016 06:38 PM (noWW6)

280 Eliminating the corporate income tax would reduce lobbying as much as anything.
Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (nVNy0)

They'd still lobby in the regulation and H1B1 visa arenas.

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Yes, but it would be substantially reduced. Eliminate a few governmental agencies and it would get reduced even further.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:38 PM (nVNy0)

281 Why doesn't one of these guys say "I'd work with the nations of the middle east to find them somewhere safe and stable to live there.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (39g3+)
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Except you clearly don't listen since many including Trump support some level of a creating a safe zone so these fk holes can stay in their own country instead of overrunning other countries, and has called out Muzzie nations for not taking any refugees.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:39 PM (MbrzC)

282 Well, I am delighted to see a consensus emerging. . .

Posted by: Piran Pasco at February 08, 2016 06:39 PM (or4ie)

283 Yes, but it would be substantially reduced. Eliminate a few governmental agencies and it would get reduced even further.
Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:38 PM (nVNy0)

Good point

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:39 PM (0eidE)

284 276 Oh ffs,

Apparently some assholes are throwing rocks from the other side of the highway on I35 in Austin.

I'm guessing muslims or pissed of liberal "activists".
Posted by: Lauren
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My money is on BLM.
(Yes, I know they're a branch of "liberal activists")

Posted by: Chi at February 08, 2016 06:40 PM (OUpHg)

285 Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2016 06:38 PM (noWW6)

but on the plus side -- breaks up the sausage fest.

Plus, you can focus on getting laid instead of boring stuff like the mission.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:40 PM (AkOaV)

286 >>Ah...but Kasich is, at least nominally, A Republican, and his position must be in the rear, eating Democrat shit.....

I don't know if you saw it but a woman showed up at a Kasich event today and said she was torn between voting for Hillary, Bernie and Kasich in the Democrat primary. Kaisch didn't miss a beat and said she should vote for him because he was in between Hillary and Bernie.

In the Democrat primary.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 06:40 PM (/tuJf)

287 Lopez was in basic in Sept, then put on convalescent leave, and never reported back

a nut case

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:40 PM (zOTsN)

288 >>>275 Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (vmMMi)

but a small Man can be FORCED to fight?

(trust me, I don't think Women should be in combat units, but if they are going to be there... it needs to be EQUAL.. or the absurdity will never end... and Men will die because of it).
Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM

id rather we reserve the draft for emergencies, so hopefully no one would be forced to fight. But even a small man tends to be stronger than most women.

If you start drafting women for 'equality' then you will have to put them on the front lines for 'equality'. That seems to be a bad idea.

Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:41 PM (vmMMi)

289 244 If there is a draft for women there will suddenly be a mass of pregnancies and abortion will be non-existent for the duration.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:31 PM (Fo9A9)
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Well they did say "service", nobody said it had to be to fight, could be to aid in the replacement rate. /s

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:41 PM (MbrzC)

290 Someone mentioned that in terms of individual donations, there should be no limit - in which someone replied this wouldn't be fair because people with more money would have "more" free speech.

I would say so long as we have a progressive tax structure, tough luck. We put in a fair tax? Then I'll listen to a cap on spending money to say something...

Posted by: Reality Man at February 08, 2016 06:41 PM (Ch0fq)

291 This site is filled with anti- femites

Posted by: NARAL at February 08, 2016 06:41 PM (BHtaf)

292 Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2016 06:38 PM (noWW6)

I served on all Male Ships... and I served in mixed units... the amount of drama is mixed units often reached the absurd...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:41 PM (f7rv6)

293 Plus, you can focus on getting laid instead of boring stuff like the mission.

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The military really should adopt the summer camp approach.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:41 PM (nVNy0)

294 If you start drafting women for 'equality' then you will have to put them on the front lines for 'equality'. That seems to be a bad idea.
Posted by: Lea at February 08, 2016 06:41 PM (vmMMi)

Naw, we only let the ones who make the cut to on the front. The rest can be MPs, clerks, and nurses (etc).

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:42 PM (0eidE)

295 I don't know if you saw it but a woman showed up at a Kasich event...

****

And they say we don't read Ace's content any more!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:42 PM (NeFrd)

296 So, HillaryBernieKasich?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 08, 2016 06:37 PM (NeFrd)

I have decided (wisely I think) not to write my original thoughts.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 08, 2016 06:42 PM (Zu3d9)

297 Women do not belong in combat roles, period. I know what I'm talking about.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:35 PM (/PZoK)

In General I fully agree with that. But in today's "Wars" the the line between front line and back and between Combat and Support Roles is blurred. So hard and fast rules and opinions are difficult

AND in Israel it is even more confused because the in many cases and more so in the future the Front line is the Home Line and there are NO real civilians.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:42 PM (mw8Dm)

298 10 for x=1 to 6
20 print 'Let's dispel with this notion Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing...'
30 next x

Posted by: Rubiobot 2016 at February 08, 2016 06:43 PM (fbovC)

299 CBD, I read a book awhile back called "WWIII, August 1984" written by a retired NATO general. It was pretty good and wound up with the Sov's nuking Birmingham UK, and us nuking Kiev.
Tom Clancy's "Red Storm Rising" was pretty much taken from that book, but Clancy went into a lot of detail on the sea war bringing over all the heavy reinforcements the the NATO general didn't.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 08, 2016 06:43 PM (9iR5/)

300 Except you clearly don't listen since many including
Trump support some level of a creating a safe zone so these fk holes
can stay in their own country instead of overrunning other countries,
and has called out Muzzie nations for not taking any refugees.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:39 PM (MbrzC)

They had a safe zone right up until we decided we needed to overthrow Assad... note, there was NOT a huge refugee problem until we stuck our fingers in there...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:43 PM (f7rv6)

301 Someone mentioned that in terms of individual donations, there should be no limit - in which someone replied this wouldn't be fair because people with more money would have "more" free speech.

I would say so long as we have a progressive tax structure, tough luck. We put in a fair tax? Then I'll listen to a cap on spending money to say something...

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Free speech does not imply equal speech.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:43 PM (nVNy0)

302 I actually support getting rid of Selective Service all together. This may be the way to do it.

Posted by: no good deed at February 08, 2016 06:34 PM (GgxVX)
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Of course it is and few would oppose that, but then someone loses a wedge issue to fight over, so it'll probably never happen.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:43 PM (MbrzC)

303 Steve Hayes has a long moustache

Posted by: alor, mes amis... at February 08, 2016 06:44 PM (8CdUx)

304 Ace gets the most butthurt little trolls.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 08, 2016 06:45 PM (oVJmc)

305 In the Democrat primary.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 06:40 PM (/tuJf)
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Right where I said he belonged last summer, the guy missed a prime opportunity to be the Democrat nominee.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:45 PM (MbrzC)

306 its an open primary iirc

maybe that accounts for more lefty sounding tropes?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 08, 2016 06:46 PM (Cq0oW)

307 What time does the party get started tomorrow?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 08, 2016 06:47 PM (iQIUe)

308 The issue of registering for the draft is a silly red herring. Carter instituted this, as he wanted to look tough. Thus, our young men had to raise their hand by sending in a notification for a NON-EXISTENT DRAFT. Feminists want young woman to have to raise their hand too in a silly exercise because of EQUALITY.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2016 06:47 PM (r1fLd)

309 I just am flat stunned and confused that anyone, anywhere, thought putting women and men together on a ship for long cruises was remotely intelligent. Who the hell came up with that genius concept? Someone raised in a cubical with no contact with another human being?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:47 PM (39g3+)

310 Posted by: Old Blue at February 08, 2016 06:43 PM (9iR5/)

yeah, that was published in the late 70s. The first chapter was amazing, but for the rest of the book he gets far down into the weeds regarding equipment, logistics, etc

Posted by: Aldo Moro at February 08, 2016 06:47 PM (8CdUx)

311 Wow! That photo of Graham and Bush at Drudge is like something out of errant Google search for lemon pie.

Posted by: Fritz at February 08, 2016 06:48 PM (BngQR)

312

I'm sure the Lena Dunham types are going to be REALLLLL upset about not getting to sign up for selective service

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:48 PM (zOTsN)

313 "Ted Cruz hands out teddy bears instead."

Cruz really lost me there. He could have gone down there with a sack of golf balls and given those kids a beating that would really show those little bastards how we feel. But no, he has to go all human decency on them. Sickening.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 08, 2016 06:48 PM (kf2iZ)

314
In General I fully agree with that. But in today's "Wars" the the line between front line and back and between Combat and Support Roles is blurred. So hard and fast rules and opinions are difficult

AND in Israel it is even more confused because the in many cases and more so in the future the Front line is the Home Line and there are NO real civilians.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:42 PM (mw8Dm)

Nope, the distinction is clear.

Infantry, Border Guard = combat.
Field intelligence = combat support.

Tank crew = combat.
Artillery = combat support.

Pilot = combat.
Crew chief = combat support.

Combat role doesn't mean you get sent to the front lines, it's your job designation.

The only obfuscated thing is general guard duty, which everyone does. Not sure it's a good idea, though.

Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:48 PM (/PZoK)

315 The issue of registering for the draft is a silly red herring.

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Is it? I want a leader who's first instinct is why is the government doing something at all? Not how can we make this more equal or use it even more.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:48 PM (nVNy0)

316 They had a safe zone right up until we decided we needed to overthrow Assad... note, there was NOT a huge refugee problem until we stuck our fingers in there...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:43 PM (f7rv6)
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Somewhat true.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 06:49 PM (MbrzC)

317 "CBD, I read a book awhile back called 'WWIII, August 1984' written by a
retired NATO general. It was pretty good and wound up with the Sov's
nuking Birmingham UK, and us nuking Kiev."

General Sir John Hackett, who knew what he was talking about.

By the way, as a younger man in WWII, Hackett was a top combatant commander during Operation Market-Garden, immortalized in _A Bridge Too Far_.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 08, 2016 06:49 PM (noWW6)

318 Government registrations are two words that do not usually go over very well.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:50 PM (nVNy0)

319 I just try to picture women at Guadalcanal or Khe Sanh, it doesn't work for me

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:51 PM (HWcaz)

320 For those advocating for women in combat roles, I suggest that they study the battles of Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa, specifically the battle for the Shuri line and Sugar Loaf Hill. Those were all meat grinders. Then come back and tell me that you want your daughter to go there.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 08, 2016 06:52 PM (9iR5/)

321 Red Storm Rising is one of my favorite books, I'd love to see it made into a quality series on cable or Netflix. They'd have to cut too much out of a single film. Just the Iceland story is a movie in its self.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:52 PM (39g3+)

322 97 (XzRw1)
Seems to be on well deserved auto delete.
Posted by: ugg boots at February 08, 2016 06:05 PM (fbovC)

For the record XzRw1 is the commenter formerly known as The Thin Veneer of Civility. He got banned a year ago but insists on spamming the blog daily with dozens to a hundred plus comments including a lot of racial shit. And since he has chosen to act like MUMR, he gets the MUMR treatment

Posted by: Maetenloch at February 08, 2016 06:52 PM (pAlYe)

323 First recorded death by a meteor, missed where but looked like Africa on tv

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 06:53 PM (HWcaz)

324

Megyn Kelly is having Rubio on tonight, the night before the primary. Sure. She isn't cheerleading

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:53 PM (zOTsN)

325 ***"This cycle has really proven that PACs aren't everything."***

I don't think this has been said enough, nor could it be said enough, loud enough.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 08, 2016 06:54 PM (Wckf4)

326 Posted by: Ignoramus at February 08, 2016 06:47 PM (r1fLd)

Yeah.... I once got the notice that I had not registered for the draft.

It was really amusing.... as it was sent to my FLEET POST OFFICE ADDRESS.... and I got it while on a Med Cruise...

Posted by: Don Quixote at February 08, 2016 06:54 PM (f7rv6)

327 >>>I just try to picture women at Guadalcanal or Khe Sanh, it doesn't work for me<<<

Hillary Clinton would have been Force Recon Black Ops if not for her vagina.

Posted by: Fritz at February 08, 2016 06:54 PM (BngQR)

328 For those advocating for women in combat roles, I suggest that they study the battles of Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa, specifically the battle for the Shuri line and Sugar Loaf Hill. Those were all meat grinders. Then come back and tell me that you want your daughter to go there.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 08, 2016 06:52 PM (9iR5/)

Wouldn't want my son at Okinawa either or Omaha beach. Many mothers don't want there sons there too.

Posted by: Draki at February 08, 2016 06:55 PM (0eidE)

329 I just try to picture women at Guadalcanal or Khe Sanh, it doesn't work for me
Posted by: Skip

Works for me.

Posted by: Iwane Matsui at February 08, 2016 06:55 PM (zmW4B)

330 hey now

Hillary ducked sniper fire at the airport. She has seen more action than John Kerry

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:55 PM (zOTsN)

331
Infantry, Border Guard = combat.
Field intelligence = combat support.

Tank crew = combat.
Artillery = combat support.

Pilot = combat.
Crew chief = combat support.

Combat role doesn't mean you get sent to the front lines, it's your job designation.

The only obfuscated thing is general guard duty, which everyone does. Not sure it's a good idea, though.
Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 06:48 PM (/PZoK)

Yeah I don't see it that way. You have female Medics/Corpsmen/ DRs/ Pilots/Intel all at or near the front lines, and in today's wars the rear becomes the front line in the blink of an eye.

Do i want females in Marine of Army Combat Units--of course not. But in todays Military and today's War all those Combat Units and Support Units are just not as clearly differentiated and you indicate.

I don't think you and disagree in Principal, just in the actual disposition of Units now a days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 06:55 PM (mw8Dm)

332 "Cruz really lost me there. He could have gone down there with a sack of golf balls and given those kids a beating that would really show those little bastards how we feel. But no, he has to go all human decency on them. Sickening."

All these little darlings with 5 O'clock shadows and 40 year old junior high schoolers? Ha.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:55 PM (Fo9A9)

333 okay, so strategically -- who should I vote for in tomorrows Nh primary?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:56 PM (AkOaV)

334 How about replacing the entire infantry with women? I think that would put the equality lie to rest pretty fast.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 08, 2016 06:56 PM (4ErVI)

335 I'm undeclared, so I'm thinking of maybe voting Sanders -- Hillary needs to lose NH.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at February 08, 2016 06:56 PM (AkOaV)

336 *sock off*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2016 06:56 PM (4ErVI)

337 This cycle has really proven that PACs aren't everything.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (JP7wb)

338 Wouldn't want my son at Okinawa either or Omaha beach

That's the whole point though. War is hell, its awful, and if we have any other choice we would never do it. Its horrific to put our sons through this.

Why would we even remotely consider for one second doing the same to our daughters?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (39g3+)

339 >>For those advocating for women in combat roles, I suggest that they study the battles of Tarawa, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa, specifically the battle for the Shuri line and Sugar Loaf Hill. Those were all meat grinders. Then come back and tell me that you want your daughter to go there.

I don't think anyone really wants women in combat roles. What they also don't want is radical left women demanding they have equal status in all ways to men but they want to pick and choose which responsibilities they will accept.

A whole lot of 18 year old men don't love the idea of registering either. They don't get a choice. If women are going to demand to have access to those jobs then they need to accept the responsibilities.

They are never going to stop pushing if we compromise every time they demand we do.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (/tuJf)

340 "Megyn Kelly is having Rubio on tonight, the night before the primary."

Robo-guest. She just needs to make sure she plugs him in first.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (Fo9A9)

341 most pilots arent combat pilots. Combat roles are very specifically defined. You can be in a combat zone and draw combat pay and still not be in a combat position, but in support.

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (zOTsN)

342 Aldo, I'm paraphrasing here because I don't remember the exact quote, but a general who wants to win a battle studies tactics. A general who wants to win a war studies logistics.
Torque, thanks for naming the author for me. I'm old and the memory isn't as good as it used to be.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (9iR5/)

343 342
"Megyn Kelly is having Rubio on tonight, the night before the primary."

Robo-guest. She just needs to make sure she plugs him in first.

Posted by: Misfortune Pestilence at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (Fo9A9)

FAIR AND BALANCED BITCHES YOU DECIDE!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2016 06:58 PM (4ErVI)

344 Why would we even remotely consider for one second doing the same to our daughters?

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We wouldn't. And we won't.

Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:58 PM (nVNy0)

345 All these little darlings with 5 O'clock shadows and 40 year old junior high schoolers? Ha.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence

We're just widows and orphans infidel.

Posted by: Mohammad the Rapefugee at February 08, 2016 06:59 PM (zmW4B)

346 Think of equality when you're losing that leg, cupcake.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at February 08, 2016 07:00 PM (4ErVI)

347 Why would we even remotely consider for one second doing the same to our daughters?

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We wouldn't. And we won't.
Posted by: SH at February 08, 2016 06:58 PM (nVNy0)

And the vast majority will NOT volunteer to...this is all just a liberal wet dream as I said before and also a direct attempt to ruin the Military

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 08, 2016 07:00 PM (mw8Dm)

348 I'm tired of all of these people. Is it too late to start the election over?

Posted by: Global Warming made Hillary lie at February 08, 2016 07:00 PM (VRc/p)

349 so

anybody think that threatened Bloomberg run is . the Democrat plan B?

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 08, 2016 07:00 PM (Cq0oW)

350 anybody think that threatened Bloomberg run is . the Democrat plan B?

Criminy, that's like having Baldrick plan for you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 08, 2016 07:01 PM (39g3+)

351 Nood, infidels.
Go now or I keel you.

Posted by: Mohammad the Rapefugee at February 08, 2016 07:01 PM (zmW4B)

352 I dont think Bloomberg will get in. I still think Biden is plan B. Problem is that you have to get Plan B on hte ballot

Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 07:01 PM (zOTsN)

353 As far as women in combat; since the very specific lifting of the restriction in combat is lifted; why is the draft not the very next requirement? If it has been decided that women, as a group, are as capable as men in combat, why would 51% of a potential fighting force be exempt? Please don't give me the motherhood argument. Fathers are just as important. Why is my son cannon fodder, but my daughter isn't? Why should women get the privileges and social status of being in the military, and NOT be subject, involuntarily, to front line combat. Don't give me that volunteer business, Utah beach was littered with draftees. And don't give me the combat effectiveness argument, that ship has long sailed. There is NO fitness measurement that is not lower for women, at least in the USAF. Why, the SECAF wants to not only increase the number of women serving, but also increase maternity leave to a year post birth. If you're a flier, you quit flying in the first trimester. That means, for a year and a half, you're out of the cockpit that someone else will have to fill, extra deployments, extras local missions, etc. Then training requirements to get you spun up again. 2 years out of the cockpit.
Since military effectiveness is clearly not a factor, why aren't we packing combat units with women in order to get the representative percentages that seem to drive hiring decisions in the private sector? Why isn't the EEOC mandating numbers of women/minorities/trans/bi whatever into the foxholes?
Why is it always about choice with women, and about duty with men? What happens when men get tired of being treated like disposable humans?

Posted by: MikeB at February 08, 2016 07:02 PM (+Ij/p)

354 Its not rapey Tuesday, but let me tell you my opinion. We need a separate but equal branch for women. We could call it the WACS or something. Progress my fellow comrades, progress.

Posted by: NARAL at February 08, 2016 07:02 PM (BHtaf)

355 I just am flat stunned and confused that anyone, anywhere, thought putting women and men together on a ship for long cruises was remotely intelligent. Who the hell came up with that genius concept?

Aaron Spelling

Posted by: Wilford Lloyd Baumes at February 08, 2016 07:03 PM (FkBIv)

356 going to nood

I'm just thinking Bloomberg as an independent might draw the dems. dunno yet.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sandwich at February 08, 2016 07:03 PM (Cq0oW)

357 Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 08, 2016 06:23 PM (oQQwD)

Women are a good choice for last-ditch home defense as well, but that pretty much presupposes every able-bodied man and boy to already be out of action and I dearly hope we don't reach that situation.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 08, 2016 07:08 PM (GDulk)

358 354 - Not a problem for dems.

MikeB - Enter key... hit it every once in awhile.

356 - pregnancy brigades!

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at February 08, 2016 07:10 PM (MbrzC)

359
I think a lot of us are missing the point of the trial balloon about the draft. This is the military brass calling the feminists' bluff.

EVERYONE knows that the feminists that have been screaming about women in combat roles are simply trying to get the career benefits of a combat arms specialty, without the necessary responsibilities or sacrifices. The military brass is actually doing something semi-intelligent here, using Alinsky-type actions, as in "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 08, 2016 07:11 PM (o98Jz)

360
its a moot point anyway.infantry units will be all cyborgs in 15 years

Posted by: flawless male logic at February 08, 2016 07:11 PM (lKyWE)

361 Male cyborgs, or female cyborgs?

Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie! at February 08, 2016 07:24 PM (rwI+c)

362 Why is a state were Democrats can vote for a Republican the 2nd one up for a primary?

Posted by: Skip at February 08, 2016 05:54 PM (HWcaz)

I think only undeclared voters (Independents) can vote for either party in the primary. If they chose the Republican (or Democrat) ballot, they're considered a registered voter of that party. After voting, they can request a form from the clerk to revert back to Independent.

Independents in New Hampshire are around 40% of the electorate, and I've read that they're evenly split this election but something like 23% say they could change to another candidate.

It all sounds crazy.

Posted by: Joanne at February 08, 2016 07:25 PM (hgBpU)

363
female cyborgs in combat units would be nuts

Posted by: flawless male logic at February 08, 2016 07:30 PM (lKyWE)

364 Holy shit is that one of the most egomaniacal and narcissistic things I've ever heard. Women are supposed to be what men are fighting for? What about freedom, country, principles, the brother in arms next to them? Jesus.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (kpqmD)

What about hearth and home; their help-mate throughout life; the mother of their children; their own mother and the honor they bring to their family - you know, all the benefits they reap from being free men. Once upon a time, soldiers DID fight for all this. How many times did Bob Hope parade a beautiful women in front of soldiers and tell them, "I just want you to see what you are fighting for" - maybe if you switched to decaf you'd sleep better and wouldn't be so quick to cast aspersions.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at February 08, 2016 07:31 PM (oQQwD)

365
Holy shit is that one of the most egomaniacal and narcissistic things I've ever heard. Women are supposed to be what men are fighting for? What about freedom, country, principles, the brother in arms next to them? Jesus. Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 08, 2016 06:30 PM (kpqmD)

notice how european men didn't really get pissed off about open borders until migrant hordes started to sexually moleste their womrn

Posted by: flawless male logic at February 08, 2016 07:47 PM (lKyWE)

366 Watching Greta. She's interviewing some college students about voting in N.H. Fat chick (Democrat) says they're all excited about meeting face-to-face with all the candidates before she makes up her mind (she's only got two choices, for crap sake).

Do these people live in the real world? And I'm including the majority of the voters, not just these colleges douches. How does one not have any clue as to who appeals to them politically?

Saw on Fox this morning that around 48% of all voters haven't made up their minds yet. WTF.

Posted by: Joanne at February 08, 2016 07:49 PM (hgBpU)

367 341 most pilots arent combat pilots. Combat roles are very specifically defined. You can be in a combat zone and draw combat pay and still not be in a combat position, but in support.
Posted by: ThunderB at February 08, 2016 06:57 PM (zOTsN)

If one (even the smallest) of Chinook flyer's jobs is to drop or pick in genuinely hot areas, he's actually a combat pilot (and deservingly get combat pay). If his job is limited to dropping crates in bases, while he theoretically can be shot down, he's not really doing a combat role but a combat support role.

Women can do many support duties, but not when adrenaline or/and strength are the main ingredients needed.

Posted by: Juicer at February 08, 2016 07:57 PM (/PZoK)

368 I'm not sure why more people don't understand that after campaigning as a nutjob, Trump would govern as a Democrat. And I mean on everything. The only wall he's building is arouind DC, to protect lobbyists from small government conservatives.

This is what happens to every unprincipled person who shows up in LobbyLand. Trump's guiding ideology is Trumpism, that's why everyone from Jimmy Carter to Bob Dole to the Gopers thinks Trump would be swell, at least compared to Cruz.

I could easily live with Rubio but voting for the halfwit con man Trump is just dumb.

Posted by: TallDave at February 08, 2016 08:05 PM (74ZYB)

369 I don't think many people on the right get Trump. At all. Watching him in Manchester right now.....this guy is going to have a Harvard Business School study on his marketing? sales? lampoon? This 'thing' that caused the Mormon Romney to say he's a 'fierce conservative'........that's not a good thing. That's as bad as the Ds dividing everybody on race.

This place will never be the Treehouse. But that's because of the integrity.........I'm okay with that. But Trump is our politics now. Get used to it.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at February 08, 2016 08:33 PM (PvCxa)

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