FOIA'd Documents Prove: The Obama Administration Lied When It Claimed It Could Not Prioritize Spending During a Shutdown to Avoid a Default

I know, I know.

You think I'm crazy. But hear me out.

During the fights about the debt ceiling -- in 2011 and 2013 -- people who wanted to reduce spending noted, correctly, that a simple expiration of a government funding would not, in fact, trigger an immediate default on government debt.

The Obama Administration claimed it would, because they were trying to scare people to just give into them. (It worked.)

People like Veronica De Rugy said that that was preposterous, that the government had a fair amount of money (even with a spending shutdown) and could prioritize its payments to make sure the debt was paid off, to avoid that bad outcome.

Again, the Obama Administration lied and said that was impossible.

Not only was it possible-- they planned for it and wargamed it.

Well, as it turns out, documents subpoenaed by the House Financial Services Committee reveal that during the 2013 debt ceiling debate, "the Obama Administration is not only capable of prioritizing payments in case the nation's borrowing authority is not raised, it has run 'tabletop exercises' to prepare for such a contingency -- contradicting earlier public statements from Treasury officials."

But no one will care, because everyone knows, this country ain't gonna fundamentally transform itself.

Posted by: Ace at 02:34 PM




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1 I say let's put these lies / statements to the test. Shut down the government.

Posted by: SH at February 03, 2016 02:37 PM (gmeXX)

2 And the gov't didn't have to shut down park service when the budget wasn't approved. They work on fear.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 03, 2016 02:37 PM (r2qlt)

3 Did anyone actually believe this load of horseshit at the time? It seemed like one of those things people would wink at and then repeat out of tribal loyalty.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at February 03, 2016 02:38 PM (1RNgT)

4 >>>"But no one will care, because everyone knows, this country ain't gonna fundamentally transform itself."

I think that's been the worst of it. Not caring because it's too late.

Once you work the 5 stages of grief, and you just say "fuck it"

Call it stage 6: contempt

Posted by: Max Power at February 03, 2016 02:39 PM (q177U)

5 >>>This country ain't gonna transform itself.

I read that as "This country ain't gonna change unless WE change it, WE the People. Withdrawal of consent to be governed by burning this corrupt, arrogant, spendthrift leviathan to the frekin ground.

Posted by: 7Mike at February 03, 2016 02:39 PM (pxwEr)

6 Remember when they barricaded federal landmarks that didn't need to be staffed?

Posted by: Max Power at February 03, 2016 02:40 PM (q177U)

7 Dammit! I hate typos! Freakin typos.

Posted by: 7Mike at February 03, 2016 02:40 PM (pxwEr)

8 Oh yea, I'm in stage 6 for sure. I'm so PO'd at Trump for trashing the rest of the field at this point and having Sarah Palin on the bandwagon. I had respect for her but I can't believe she bought this Trump stuff. Don't get me wrong I certainly would have voted for him, but now, I'm not so sure. He's so petty and small.

Posted by: Jaimo at February 03, 2016 02:41 PM (9U1OG)

9 Remember when they barricaded federal landmarks that didn't need to be staffed?

I remember the videos of the old vets tearing the barricades aside. Priceless moment right there.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 03, 2016 02:41 PM (r2qlt)

10 Ted Cruz LIIIIIIIEDDD!

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 03, 2016 02:41 PM (QM5S2)

11 That's not true! That's impossible! I already surrendered!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 03, 2016 02:42 PM (zgHLA)

12 So, what's the over/under on amount of time the big 3 spend on this report? Papa needs a new pair of shoes.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 03, 2016 02:42 PM (r2qlt)

13 Level six??? I'm at level seven.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 03, 2016 02:42 PM (uiVGU)

14 Oh, and impeachment is still off the table, you horrible racists.

Now give us more money.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 03, 2016 02:43 PM (zgHLA)

15 The question is what does this do for future negotiations. Now that the cat is out of the bag, shutdown theater will really be popcorn worthy

Posted by: JeffreyL at February 03, 2016 02:43 PM (mXv3y)

16 Decisions are only as good as the information on which those decisions are based.

It's now impossible to make decent decisions about political matters since nearly all of the information we are given (quarterly GDP anyone) is, let me be gracious, complete and utter lying horseshit.

Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at February 03, 2016 02:43 PM (mf5HN)

17 You mean federal data isn't believable?

Heh.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 03, 2016 02:44 PM (NHQQx)

18 They played politics with this?

*points at face*

This is my surprised look.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - ReFit your Conniptions at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2016 02:44 PM (hLRSq)

19 That was, like, two years ago maaaaaan.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 03, 2016 02:45 PM (CGjum)

20

wow, Ace on a roll

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 03, 2016 02:45 PM (qCMvj)

21 Yes, I lied to you. I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry. Do you forgive me?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

Posted by: Emperor Clusterfuck I at February 03, 2016 02:45 PM (YFFpo)

22 It's now impossible to make decent decisions about political matters since nearly all of the information we are given (quarterly GDP anyone) is, let me be gracious, complete and utter lying horseshit.

The sidebar article about the negative interest rates notes that the stress test scenario is current unemployment doubling overnight to 10%. I chuckled.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 03, 2016 02:46 PM (r2qlt)

23 TFG is a lying sucker of cock who lies and sucks cocks? Who'd a-thunk it?

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 03, 2016 02:46 PM (kpqmD)

24 Gosh you mean the Obama administration was lying?

Posted by: Buzzion at February 03, 2016 02:47 PM (z/Ubi)

25 Shutting down unstaffed Federal parks actually cost money. And speaking of wargaming, the metal barriers had to be rented in advance and the professionally printed signs had to be ordered in advance.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 03, 2016 02:47 PM (/f6Nd)

26 he forgot to put "#Unexpectedly" in the headline...

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 03, 2016 02:47 PM (ItRhK)

27 15
The question is what does this do for future negotiations. Now that the
cat is out of the bag, shutdown theater will really be popcorn worthy


Posted by: JeffreyL at February 03, 2016 02:43 PM (mXv3y)


Unfortunately, it will have no effect on future negotiations. If someone points out, "We have here documentation that you all wargamed for exactly this instance back before the 2013 shutdown, so we know you know it's possible," then I GUARANTEE the leftists Demonrats (BIRM) will just say, "No we didn't. That's unrelated. It's immaterial to the matter at hand. It's old news. You liar."

And that will be the end of it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 03, 2016 02:48 PM (4df7R)

28 Is it possible to get a lighthearted thread today? Perhaps linking to Deadpool's campaign to fight testicular and breast cancer?

Posted by: Buzzion at February 03, 2016 02:48 PM (z/Ubi)

29 You know, I had to skip exactly no paychecks because the Republicans shut down the Government.

Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at February 03, 2016 02:48 PM (b99VK)

30
The Treasury is always taking in (for now) enough money to meet pension obligations and other monies. And the small percentage of furloughed employees get full back pay when the shutdown ends.

There never is a true shut down.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 03, 2016 02:48 PM (zLP1L)

31 Now that the cat is out of the bag, shutdown theater will really be popcorn worthy.

That is old news, and not worth re-reporting on. Also, new events have made it inoperative, and not worth noting.

Posted by: Tomorrow's Media at February 03, 2016 02:49 PM (2lndx)

32 27, darn it, you just published the lead for NBC news...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 03, 2016 02:49 PM (NHQQx)

33 Color me shocked!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 03, 2016 02:49 PM (so+oy)

34 The Obama administration including the Interior Sec'y at the time, Ken Salazar, did everything in their power to inconvenience we the people by closing parks and monuments, etc, simply to show their single party arrogance toward the (at the time) loyal opposition of the ongoing budget battle. Salazar is on youtube threatening a citizen, too, or was. All I can find now is a written account - http://tinyurl.com/zrbl2hl

Posted by: 7Mike at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (pxwEr)

35 That's not true! That's impossible! I already surrendered!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 03, 2016 02:42 PM (zgHLA)


And you still got conquered and pillaged because they thought it would be more fun that way.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - ReFit your Conniptions at the Outrage Outlet! at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (hLRSq)

36 It's now impossible to make decent decisions about political matters since nearly all of the information we are given (quarterly GDP anyone) is, let me be gracious, complete and utter lying horseshit.

Only if you don't consider "imprison everyone involved on a dead volcano somewhere in the south Pacific, close down the offices involved, and use the budget to pay down the debt" a proper answer to any political question.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (9krrF)

37 Dude, that was, like, 100 lies ago.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (RD7QR)

38
Yeah.

Not just this White House but every governmental provider of services.

Want to trim the Education budget?? First order of business is to lay off teachers.

Cities lose some funding??? First thing cut is police officers and firefighters.

IRS has a cutback. First thing cut is customer sevice folks manning the phones.


"Fuck you plebes.... pay me or else."

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (8XRCm)

39 So is this fraud or extortion?

The Obama Administration policies are all helter-skelter and shit!

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (BngQR)

40 Anyone remember those Recovery.Gov signs?

Good Times.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (b99VK)

41 From the last thread. F*ckstorm. Ya think there's ever been a porn movie called, F*ckstorm? You know, hot weather girls from The Weather Channel. Lonely old codgers obsessed with the forecast... Anyway, just wondering.

Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2016 02:51 PM (2oWD2)

42 Even in my 256 Crayola box I don't have "shocked".

Posted by: eleven at February 03, 2016 02:51 PM (qUNWi)

43 >>>"And speaking of wargaming, the metal barriers had to be rented in advance and the professionally printed signs had to be ordered in advance."

Wow, that's even more disgusting and pathetic. I don't know what's worse, thinking they could get away with this, or ACTUALLY getting away with this.

That should have been a pitchfork worthy moment.

Posted by: Max Power at February 03, 2016 02:51 PM (q177U)

44 As I recall the behavior of the Park Service and Park Police, I'm getting angry all over again.

Remember when they locked tourists in a building at some national park out west, wouldn't let them leave, and threatened them with arrest if they were caught 'recreating,' i.e. enjoying the park in any way such as photographing or even looking out the window?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 03, 2016 02:51 PM (/f6Nd)

45 Fraud or extortion?

Yes. Yes it is.

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at February 03, 2016 02:52 PM (NHQQx)

46 The proper response to another government shutdown is not to send 'non essential personnel' home with pay, but to fire them permanently. If they are non essential, we don't need them.

Posted by: Fester Much at February 03, 2016 02:52 PM (p4Kna)

47 Nothing surprises me about this administration anymore. That they manipulated facts to permit a shutdown in order to blame Republicans when it was their fault? Yeah. I can believe that. After everything that has happened in the last 7 years, it will take a lot to shock me.

Posted by: Moki at February 03, 2016 02:52 PM (7q2ch)

48 True Fact : Barack Hussein Obama is a Petulant Cunt.

Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2016 02:53 PM (b99VK)

49 I couldn't take a crap during the government shut down!

Posted by: That guy who can't take a crap without government help at February 03, 2016 02:53 PM (2oWD2)

50 Ya think there's ever been a porn movie called, F*ckstorm?

I'm sort of surprised they haven't made a parody of Sharknado called F*cknado myself.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 03, 2016 02:53 PM (r2qlt)

51 28 Is it possible to get a lighthearted thread today? Perhaps linking to Deadpool's campaign to fight testicular and breast cancer?

Posted by: Buzzion at February 03, 2016 02:48 PM (z/Ubi)


The comments at Salon are pretty fun.

Love to see lib on lib bitch fights

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 02:53 PM (fWAjv)

52 "Fuck you plebes.... pay me or else."



Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 02:50 PM (8XRCm)

It's extortion, plain and simple. Always has been. It's one of those things that makes me FURIOUS, and it happens all the time.

"Oh, you don't wanna raise the funding for city services? Guess we're gonna have to layoff some cops. Betta not walk the streets alone at night anymore, unless, y'know, you like getting shived. But whatcha gonna do when we can't afford to pay cops?

"Oh, and I sure hope you don't mind if that lovely house o' yours burns down, cuz we're gonna fire some firefighters, too, Scrooge."

And it works every g-ddamn time.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 03, 2016 02:54 PM (4df7R)

53 5: "Withdrawal of consent to be governed by burning this corrupt, arrogant, spendthrift leviathan to the frekin ground."

But herein lies the rub. How much "we" do you need to gather to not just go down like those guys in Oregon?

Are you ready to jump off the porch? How many others will jump at the same time you do?

Do you have family? A wife and kids? What happens to them when you jump?

We have grown accustomed to our comfort. And that is the primary thing that is used against us all by our overseers. We are all frogs in our separate pots.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 02:54 PM (4nmNX)

54 >>> Is it possible to get a lighthearted thread today? Perhaps linking to Deadpool's campaign to fight testicular and breast cancer?
Posted by: Buzzion at February 03, 2016 02:48 PM (z/Ubi)


Because I'm a giver. Just add an overweight cat...

http://brightside.me/article/just-add-an-overweight-cat-88555/

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 02:55 PM (hvf9s)

55 After everything that has happened in the last 7 years, it will take a lot to shock me.

Posted by: Moki




Really? Well, that chick over there? Totally has a weiner.


Okay, never mind.

Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2016 02:55 PM (2oWD2)

56
Oh.... and....

I remember when Cruz was leading the charge on the shutdown and some of the regulars here where popping off on "alienating moderate voters" and "bad optics".

You know who you are.....

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 02:55 PM (8XRCm)

57 Hey just because Reagan supported amnesty doesn't mean I have to.

Just because someone's the best doesn't mean they're perfect.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 02:55 PM (xuouz)

58 Come think about it, would things be any different if we had Charlie Manson in the White House?

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 02:56 PM (BngQR)

59 Remember when they locked tourists in a building at
some national park out west, wouldn't let them leave, and threatened
them with arrest if they were caught 'recreating,' i.e. enjoying the
park in any way such as photographing or even looking out the window?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 03, 2016 02:51 PM (/f6Nd)


Yes, that would be those tourists who were there to see Old Faithful, some of them from foreign countries, and were treated like hostages and criminals.

I have never and WILL never forgive the traitorous park service for going along with any of that bullshit. Like the Secret Service, they've gone from a relatively respected branch of gov't to useless and untrustworthy.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 03, 2016 02:56 PM (4df7R)

60 Come think about it, would things be any different if we had Charlie Manson in the White House?


Ya, I think the garden parties would be different.

Posted by: Fester Much at February 03, 2016 02:57 PM (p4Kna)

61

#WASTF

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 03, 2016 02:57 PM (LUgeY)

62 >>After everything that has happened in the last 7 years, it will take a lot to shock me.


I am having my Crunchberries removed and transitioning to Admiral.

Posted by: Cap'N Crunch at February 03, 2016 02:57 PM (b99VK)

63 And this is why you don't fucking cave.

Posted by: Lauren at February 03, 2016 02:57 PM (f3Iw2)

64 48 True Fact : Barack Hussein Obama is a Petulant Cunt.
Posted by: garrett at February 03, 2016 02:53 PM (b99VK)

Source: do you know how to fucking read?

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (xuouz)

65 >>>>Did anyone actually believe this load of horseshit at the time? It
seemed like one of those things people would wink at and then repeat out
of tribal loyalty.
.
.
.The LIVs sure did, and in today's voting environment, that's pretty much all that counts.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (iONHu)

66 56


Oh.... and....



I remember when Cruz was leading the charge on the shutdown and some
of the regulars here where popping off on "alienating moderate voters"
and "bad optics".



You know who you are.....

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 02:55 PM (8XRCm)


Oh yes. I remember that VERY well. Some of them still believe it, too. And they want me to vote for Rubio.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (4df7R)

67 They troll us every day from the comfort of the People's House.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (LLT7T)

68 Anybody ever tried a sexbot?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: mnw (rare and flounced) at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (VLEp3)

69 Catching TFG in a lie is like a 'water is wet' moment.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (gyKtp)

70 Ya think there's ever been a porn movie called, F*ckstorm?



I'm sort of surprised they haven't made a parody of Sharknado called F*cknado myself.

Posted by: Flyguy

Is that still a thing? Used to crack me up looking at the movie section in the newspaper for showtimes and the smut theaters would be showing Top Buns and Rambone right after Top Gun and Rambo came out.

Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (2oWD2)

71 Really? Well, that chick over there? Totally has a weiner.


Okay, never mind.

Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2016 02:55 PM (2oWD2)


A man was lying in bed with his new girlfriend.
After having great sex.

She spent the next Half-hour just rubbing his testicles. Something she really loved to do. As he was enjoying it, he turned and asked,
'Why do you love doing that so much?'


'Because...', she Replied.... 'I Really Miss Mine'

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (fWAjv)

72 The only people who believe this nonsense are the uninformed MSM obeying dolts and the constantly aggrieved free-shit crowd.

Their afraid the check won't come.

Which is why they rate Republicans below satan when it comes to "shutting down the government.

And the Republicans give in- cowards that they are.

Which is why people rate Congress below dental surgery.

Which is why we have a celebrity billionaire who at least in perception wants to "stick it" to the politically correct, cowardly assholes in Congress as the leading candidate.

There. I beleive I just mansplained Trump.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (GGCsk)

73 Anybody ever tried a sexbot?

Six month waiting list for the new model.

Posted by: Fester Much at February 03, 2016 02:59 PM (p4Kna)

74 Failure theater. The Republicans don't have the heart or spine to fight.

I read several pieces over that very issue during both time periods that pointed out all of what is now confirmed by this story.

Just another failure point on the Failure Theater Continuum.

Posted by: CozMark at February 03, 2016 02:59 PM (CbGSW)

75 It must be great to be a democrat. You can say and do anything and have the msm cover for you.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 03:00 PM (/tuJf)

76 OT:

Fabrication in the media - Juan Thomson at The Intercept
-- link to Gawker

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jpzlr7x

Posted by: RioBravo at February 03, 2016 03:00 PM (NUqwG)

77 >>> Anybody ever tried a sexbot?
Six month waiting list for the new model.
Posted by: Fester Much at February 03, 2016 02:59 PM (p4Kna)

Soon...

Posted by: Ladybots from Ex Machina at February 03, 2016 03:00 PM (hvf9s)

78 IBD Editorials are the true media source.

Posted by: Carol at February 03, 2016 03:00 PM (sj3Ax)

79 52: "But whatcha gonna do when we can't afford to pay cops?"

I tend to think that the primary role of police is to restrain the citizenry.

If massive reductions in police presence occurs, I believe it is the criminal element that should fear.

Without the police to arrest citizens for exercising self help, we might actually make a leap forward back to civilization.

I still have my great grandpa's vigilance committee regalia. I wonder how many others carry such memories?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:00 PM (4nmNX)

80 Hey guys, Can one of you mansplain the lid off this mayonnaise jar? I'm a little dry, and Huma likes mayo.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 03, 2016 03:02 PM (3dOE/)

81 You knew what I was when you let me in.

Posted by: Bureaucrat at February 03, 2016 03:03 PM (evdj2)

82 I don't blame Obama. I blame the spineless Republican so-called "leaders".

Let's see if that little leprechaun bastard Paulie O'Ryan actually has a set of balls.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 03:03 PM (GGCsk)

83 Shut the whole f***er down! Shut it all down!

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 03, 2016 03:03 PM (LXJ1e)

84 @56- sure I remember
Episode 398 I believe it was, of Kabuki theater.
The guy is a globalist, pure and simple. A stealthy one to be sure.
But if elected I have few if any doubts that Goldman Sachs and the CFR will continue to get their way.

Posted by: teej at February 03, 2016 03:04 PM (rhR3K)

85 Republican leadership in Congress looks really naive and juvenile for falling for any and all tricks.

Or are they?

Posted by: Decaf at February 03, 2016 03:04 PM (zG5u3)

86 6
Remember when they barricaded federal landmarks that didn't need to be staffed?

Posted by: Max Power at February 03, 2016 02:40 PM (q177U)


Good times! Wasn't there some giant rock or maybe an open field (maybe a war of northern aggression battlefield memorial) that they barricaded off. If there ever was a symbol for how f'd we are, that was it.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 03, 2016 03:05 PM (3dOE/)

87 So Obama lied then?

Hmm. This may cause me to have to reappraise my opinion of him.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2016 03:05 PM (8ZskC)

88 She spent the next Half-hour just rubbing his
testicles.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA



Ha! Reminds me of a true story. A lady working with a friend's wife wanted ideas for something inexpensive to get her husband and the ladies in the office recommended a coupon book with "Make a Sandwich", "One Back Rub" and stuff like that. She thought it was a great idea and showed them the coupons later. They were all "dirty". The one I'm sure I remember was, "Free Ball Rub". Effing hilarious stuff. "Can I combine these coupons?"

Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2016 03:06 PM (2oWD2)

89 I told them not to call my bluff.

Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at February 03, 2016 03:06 PM (8ZskC)

90 This is as shocking as that time I dropped a brick on my toe to see if it hurt or not.

Of course that's what happened. They handled it incompetently and ended up looking stupid, but in the end it paid off: the GOP took locking down government totally off the table and caved for a straight year on everything Obama wanted.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:06 PM (39g3+)

91 I still have my great grandpa's vigilance committee regalia. I wonder how many others carry such memories?



Similar to "That lock on my door wasn't for my protection, but yours".

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:06 PM (kca06)

92 Trump is right, Republicans couldn't negotiate their way out of a paper bag.

Posted by: Decaf at February 03, 2016 03:06 PM (zG5u3)

93 14
Oh, and impeachment is still off the table, you horrible racists.



Now give us more money.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at February 03, 2016 02:43 PM (zgHLA)

They would never dare impeach the first black president. Ever. His loyal constituents would revolt and burn down entire cities. However, if Clinton got into office, I can easily see a scenario where she's impeached. Imagine the history books explaining that BOTH Clinton presidents were impeached. The difference being, they'd remove her from office. Code Pink and NOW aren't arsonists.

Posted by: kathysaysso at February 03, 2016 03:06 PM (43OZ6)

94 Obama lied.

Sun rises in the East.

Water is wet.

Posted by: SMFH at February 03, 2016 03:07 PM (rlfds)

95 >>>>"Oh, you don't wanna raise the funding for city services? Guess we're
gonna have to layoff some cops. Betta not walk the streets alone at
night anymore, unless, y'know, you like getting shived. But whatcha
gonna do when we can't afford to pay cops?

"Oh, and I sure hope
you don't mind if that lovely house o' yours burns down, cuz we're gonna
fire some firefighters, too, Scrooge."

And it works every g-ddamn time.
.
.
.
.We are starting to get the same thing here about a horrendous School tax raise they are contemplating. If the voters won't approve it we will have to fire teachers and your kids will be forced into classrooms with 125 other kids, blah, etc. blah.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 03, 2016 03:07 PM (iONHu)

96 For the 90% of American voters out there, this is a big nothingcake. Yes, technically its true and should be damaging, but they barely remember the shutdown by this point, and even if they did their eyes would glaze over as you explained.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:07 PM (39g3+)

97
Good times! Wasn't there some giant rock or maybe an open field (maybe a war of northern aggression battlefield memorial) that they barricaded off. If there ever was a symbol for how f'd we are, that was it.
Posted by: rebel flounder at February 03, 2016 03:05 PM (3dOE/)

------------------

They barricaded several parking lots to private business because the parking lots belonged to the Park "Service".

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 03, 2016 03:07 PM (LXJ1e)

98 >>>Republican leadership in Congress looks really naive and juvenile for falling for any and all tricks.
Or are they?<<<

You make a great point, and then I listen to an establishment guy like JEB and I get confused all over again.

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 03:07 PM (BngQR)

99 A lady working with a friend's wife wanted ideas for something inexpensive to get her husband and the ladies in the office recommended a coupon book with "Make a Sandwich", "One Back Rub" and stuff like that. She thought it was a great idea and showed them the coupons later. They were all "dirty".



Spencer's Gifts in the mall.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:07 PM (kca06)

100 Good times! Wasn't there some giant rock or maybe an open field (maybe a war of northern aggression battlefield memorial) that they barricaded off. If there ever was a symbol for how f'd we are, that was it.
Posted by: rebel flounder at February 03, 2016 03:05 PM (3dOE/)

----

The WWII Memorial. Its unstaffed. They barricaded it.

The vets removed the barricades and went in anyway. They said it was so much easier than facing German machine gun fire.

We were WINNING the damned point and the GOPe and their enablers surrendered, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Fuckholes.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:08 PM (8XRCm)

101

A man was lying in bed with his new girlfriend.
After having great sex.

She spent the next Half-hour just rubbing his testicles. Something she really loved to do. As he was enjoying it, he turned and asked,
'Why do you love doing that so much?'


'Because...', she Replied.... 'I Really Miss Mine'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 02:58 PM (fWAjv)

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 03, 2016 03:09 PM (z/Ubi)

102 >>I remember when Cruz was leading the charge on the shutdown and some of the regulars here where popping off on "alienating moderate voters" and "bad optics".

>>You know who you are.....

Guess what? It was. And for the reason behind this post.

The vast majority of the country had no idea that the government had money and they never will. And they did not support the shutdown.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 03:09 PM (/tuJf)

103 100: "Fuckholes."

This is known.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:09 PM (4nmNX)

104 76 OT:

Fabrication in the media - Juan Thomson at The Intercept
-- link to Gawker

http://preview.tinyurl.com/jpzlr7x

Posted by: RioBravo at February 03, 2016 03:00 PM (NUqwG)


Notice how it wasn't his fault at all.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 03:09 PM (fWAjv)

105
No, Obama was right, we can't cut spending and need to increase it or we will default.

I have graphs!

Posted by: Super Conservative Paul Ryan at February 03, 2016 03:09 PM (ODxAs)

106 We were WINNING the damned point and the GOPe and their enablers surrendered, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

But their friends at Meet the Press and MSNBC stopped inviting them to their awesome dinner parties, so sacrifices had to be made to keep their social dignity intact.

Posted by: Flyguy at February 03, 2016 03:09 PM (r2qlt)

107 And it works every g-ddamn time./i]

Never used to here, in Oregon we'd shoot down every fee and tax increase in flames. Until a couple years ago when the public finally voted to raise taxes on its self. Stupid, stupid Oregonians.

A decade or so earlier, Oregon had voted for a health care program (basically state medicare) that was bankrupting the state, driving out medical providers, and giving crappy coverage. They could just end that and save a crapload of money but NOOOOOOO

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:10 PM (39g3+)

108 The WWII Memorial. Its unstaffed. They barricaded it.
...
We were WINNING the damned point and the GOPe and their enablers surrendered, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Fuckholes.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:08 PM (8XRCm)

Yep. We have won on the facts of every issue since Obama's inauguration but been shafted by political "representatives" who can't genuflect fast enough.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 03:10 PM (xuouz)

109 We are starting to get the same thing here about a horrendous School tax raise they are contemplating. If the voters won't approve it we will have to fire teachers and your kids will be forced into classrooms with 125 other kids, blah, etc. blah.


Sounds like a normal college lecture hall.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:10 PM (kca06)

110
The Obama Administration Lied
....................

Well, tear my arm off.

Posted by: Inspector Krough at February 03, 2016 03:10 PM (HgMAr)

111 102: "The vast majority of the country had no idea that the government had money and they never will. And they did not support the shutdown."

Which totally crippled our chances in the midterm elections.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:10 PM (4nmNX)

112 Good times! Wasn't there some giant rock or maybe an
open field (maybe a war of northern aggression battlefield memorial)
that they barricaded off. If there ever was a symbol for how f'd we are,
that was it.


Posted by: rebel flounder at February 03, 2016 03:05 PM (3dOE/)


Remember when they barricaded and blocked the viewpoints of Mount Rushmore? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 03, 2016 03:11 PM (4df7R)

113 The WWII Memorial. Its unstaffed. They barricaded it.



And those barricades were rented. Had to be set up. Barricading the memorial cost more money than not barricading the memorial.

Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2016 03:11 PM (2oWD2)

114 56
Oh.... and....

I remember when Cruz was leading the charge on the shutdown and some of the regulars here where popping off on "alienating moderate voters" and "bad optics".

You know who you are.....
Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 02:55 PM (8XRCm)


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Yup. I remember that too.

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2016 03:12 PM (Fmupd)

115 To quote myself

"The Federal Government takes in almost $7B a day in taxes. Where that money gets spent is up to the executive. Failing to pay the debt service would be Obama's choice, not a given. Shutting down vital services or not is also his choice, not a requirement.

We need to get out ahead of the propaganda before the debt ceiling fight.

Posted by: toby928(c) polluting your thread with football at January 05, 2013 11:32 AM "

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 03, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)

116 "Oh yea, I'm in stage 6 for sure. I'm so PO'd at Trump for trashing the rest of the field at this point and having Sarah Palin on the bandwagon. I had respect for her but I can't believe she bought this Trump stuff. Don't get me wrong I certainly would have voted for him, but now, I'm not so sure. He's so petty and small."

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That's some mighty trolling. Blaming Trump and Palin for Congress Republicans' perfidy is quite something.

Posted by: Decaf at February 03, 2016 03:13 PM (zG5u3)

117 Comment 101 wins the internets.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 03, 2016 03:13 PM (4df7R)

118 Which totally crippled our chances in the midterm elections.

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Both houses of Congress, governships, & state houses. Record GOP advances.

When somebody from the GOPe tells you this is bad optics.... please STFU.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:13 PM (8XRCm)

119 Honestly, the sad part is most people either don't give a shit he lied or agree with the tactic.

In the end it's tribe over country.

Which is why at some point the stakes in this game are going to go way-up and the tactics will become more extreme.

You can't corrupt the auspices of a democratic government, use them against the people it is meant to serve and expect that people will continue to play by gentlemen's rules until you've destroyed them and their families.

There will come a point at which people will fight with everything they have.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (GGCsk)

120 And they did not support the shutdown.

What Cruz did was make absolutely sure that Republicans were "tarred" as so strongly opposing the ACA that the media had no way of spreading the blame in 2014. Which is a strong part of what led to the Senate takeover. That was a win if Republicans had been willing to do anything with it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (2lndx)

121 Cruz is ripping Teh Donald a new one right now.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (1xUj/)

122 >>Which totally crippled our chances in the midterm elections.

Good thing that Obamacare was rolling out at the exact same time.

I'm still waiting for somebody who supported the shutdown to tell me how they were going to get Harry Reid or Barack Obama to vote to get rid of Obamacare. It's been a year and a half, surely you must have figured it out by now.

I don't hate Cruz, he is my candidate since Walker bombed out, but he knew from the jump that he had zero chance of winning. He just wanted to get his name out there.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (/tuJf)

123 And I missed the f*ckstorm thread, so I have to say to this:

"(It doesn't occur to them that socialism is nothing but butthurt
economics for the malignantly aggrieved and economically useless.)"


Excellent turn of phrase.

That's an Ace instaclassic.

Bravo!

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 03, 2016 03:15 PM (3dOE/)

124 The American people liked the filibuster and cheered the underdog standing against everyone. The shutdown theater totally failed, it did not work like in the 90s when the news ran all these guys from parks weeping because they were unsure about being paid next month. Barricading out WW2 heroes from the memorial just made them look like jerks.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:15 PM (39g3+)

125 Cruz is ripping Teh Donald a new one right now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (1xUj/)

****

Really? What is he saying about Her Thighness and the Colonel?

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 03, 2016 03:16 PM (ZcjFY)

126 ...If someone points out, "We have here documentation that you all wargamed
for exactly this instance back before the 2013 shutdown, so we know you
know it's possible," then I GUARANTEE the leftists Demonrats (BIRM)
will just say, "No we didn't. That's unrelated. It's immaterial to the
matter at hand. It's old news. You liar."



The Democrats are the Party of Bad Faith, Everything they do is done in bad faith. David Horowitz wrote a book on this some years back called "The Politics of Bad Faith".
Essentially, the only way to deal with people - or Party's - like this is TO NOT DEAL WITH THEM. Treat them as a hostile enemy and act accordingly because that is precisely what they are.



Posted by: LGoPs at February 03, 2016 03:16 PM (SK7CK)

127 117 Comment 101 wins the internets.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at February 03, 2016 03:13 PM (4df7R)




*looks again

**that thievin' bitch

Well played

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 03:16 PM (fWAjv)

128 A very old ploy. Works on transportation bills both state and federal and the gambit is being run in Commieforna again....we're OUT of road money!!!!111!!!! raise taxes on whatever or the roads will stop working...even though money never stops coming in from taxes

then they milk the repairs ... 2nd rate fall apart quick

Posted by: torabora at February 03, 2016 03:16 PM (kh/Go)

129 You can't corrupt the auspices of a democratic government, use them against the people it is meant to serve and expect that people will continue to play by gentlemen's rules until you've destroyed them and their families.

There will come a point at which people will fight with everything they have.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (GGCsk)

The problem with this line of thought is that it's passive. And in every other country where it's happened, the socialists were prepared and the people were not.

People say government is incompetent. It's bad at what we want it to do: it has a 100% success rate at moving other people's money around, which is its real purpose. And at a certain point, eliminating the opposition becomes a key cog in continuing to move other people's money around.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 03:16 PM (xuouz)

130 Santorum is suspending his campaign, finally!

Posted by: Carol at February 03, 2016 03:16 PM (sj3Ax)

131 OT

PJ media has article in Obama today at the mosque:

"Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, let him treat people the way he would love to be treated. And for Christians like myself, I'm assuming that sounds familiar," he added.

Must have been before the prophet went bat**** crazy because Christians and jews wouldn't accept his revelations

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:17 PM (w4NZ8)

132 He just wanted to get his name out there.

Alternately: he promised he'd do everything possible to his constituents, and was following through on that promise.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:17 PM (39g3+)

133 121 Cruz is ripping Teh Donald a new one right now.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (1xUj/)

Where?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 03:17 PM (fWAjv)

134 You can't corrupt the auspices of a democratic government, use them against the people it is meant to serve and expect that people will continue to play by gentlemen's rules until you've destroyed them and their families.

There will come a point at which people will fight with everything they have.



At which point, stopping them once they have started, will be a bitch.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:17 PM (kca06)

135 Cruz and Trump going after each other must be oh so pleasing to the Left, and Rubio.

Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 03:18 PM (sdxPm)

136 So now we have Santorum dropping add to add to the mix.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at February 03, 2016 03:18 PM (iONHu)

137 92 Trump is right, Republicans couldn't negotiate their way out of a paper bag.

Donald Trump? The man who went bankrupt running a casino? The guy bragging on his willingness to make deals with Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer?

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 03, 2016 03:18 PM (09f2I)

138 "Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.



So we can start blowing up and cutting heads off muzzies?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:19 PM (kca06)

139 Please clap for me.

Please?!

WZ

Posted by: Jeb! at February 03, 2016 03:19 PM (rlfds)

140 Donald Trump? The man who went bankrupt running a casino? The guy bragging on his willingness to make deals with Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer?
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 03, 2016 03:18 PM (09f2I)

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**waves hand***


This is not the thread you are looking for.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:19 PM (8XRCm)

141 96 For the 90% of American voters out there, this is a big nothingcake. Yes, technically its true and should be damaging, but they barely remember the shutdown by this point, and even if they did their eyes would glaze over as you explained.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:07 PM (39g3+)

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Correct. And that same 90% thinks if the federal govt shuts down, it means local fire departments will not respond to fires and nobody will answer 911 calls.

This is the root cause of all our problems. The vast majority of Americans are fucking imbeciles.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:20 PM (0LHZx)

142 Donald Trump? The man who went bankrupt running a casino? The guy bragging on his willingness to make deals with Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer?



Yeah. The guy who took $700 million and turned it into $9 BILLION.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:20 PM (kca06)

143 Why do you slam Obama of lying when you refuse to admit that Cruz is a lying cheater and here's the proof:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/694963798273323008

Posted by: Red9 at February 03, 2016 03:20 PM (eoOF4)

144 "If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds are against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves." - Winnie from The Gathering Storm


I'm hoping that we are not at the last stage yet.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 03, 2016 03:21 PM (evdj2)

145 Being one to not whine about wasting paper, bits or bytes in reporting any issue--ie one mans's folly is another mans's treasure---it does stretch one's imagination to see any value measurable with a electron microscope in reporting that King 0's administration is lying with malice and forethought.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at February 03, 2016 03:21 PM (fC+Kl)

146 Sourly remembering here how during the 2013 shutdown, a poll came out.

One poll. From one reliably leftist alphabet network.

That poll purported to show that the public were intensely angry about the shutdown. And further purported that the public all agreed it was the fault of those big meanie obstructionist Republicans, and that the public thought the GOP should be severely punished at the polls the next fall for being big meanies. (Which, by the way, did not actually happen.)

Now, if you looked at the actual internals of this poll, it was clear that it was classic alphabet-network lefty agitprop. Push-poll wording and questioning. And the oversampling of registered Democrats was enormous. It was in no sense an objective metric or reflective of genuine national popular sentiment.

But, the GOP establishment instantly knuckled under to Obama and gave up on the shutdown. Citing that one (1) ridiculously biased poll as "proof" that the situation wasn't tenable for Republicans to see through any longer.

Gosh, it's almost as though the pathetic porkers of the Beltway GOP were never serious about the shutdown at all, and were grasping at any feeble excuse to stop it. But we all know that can't possibly be true.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2016 03:21 PM (noWW6)

147 Correct. And that same 90% thinks if the federal govt shuts down, it means local fire departments will not respond to fires and nobody will answer 911 calls.

This is the root cause of all our problems. The vast majority of Americans are fucking imbeciles.




Ding ding ding! Winner winner chicken dinner!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:21 PM (kca06)

148 Someone upthread mentioned "tribal". And how things break out along those lines. Seems like the Right has many tribes, fighting amongst themselves. The Left, only one tribe, rest assured.

Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 03:21 PM (sdxPm)

149 140: "This is not the thread you are looking for."

I nominate this for thread winner.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:21 PM (4nmNX)

150 This is frustrating to know. Many suspected this and I remember talking heads like Rush, Levin, etc. saying that monies could be prioritized to service the debt and no default occur. Obama and his media took away the largest weapon Congress had against his spending and that was the Power of The Purse. The biggest blame to go around is the those asshole GOPe leaders who forfeited this power to the executive. Look I at get it though, they had more important things to do like shitting on Cruz for trying to exercise the Power of The Purse. Quislings the whole lot of them.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (UnJ7w)

151 "But no one will care, because everyone knows, this country ain't gonna fundamentally transform itself."

He was voted in twice, so really the country is fundamentally transforming itself using Obama as the vehicle. And these same people-- the Sanders half the Democrats want to turn it into a socialist paradise (read communist totalitarian hellhole) and the Hillary half wants a fascist crony capitalist banana republic hellhole. Hellhole being their common ground.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (kfcYC)

152 Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, let him treat people the way he would love to be treated

Alternately: die killing infidels in a holy war! The problem isn't that Islam has no good whatsoever in it, its that Islam also has a lot of bad in it that negates or contradicts a lot of the good.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (39g3+)

153 Do unto others first; so that you never have to look back.

Posted by: Fritz Mo at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (BngQR)

154 144: "I'm hoping that we are not at the last stage yet."

I am Spartacus.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (4nmNX)

155 You know why Dems always win? Because they fight. Even battles they know they have no chance of winning they fight..and fight..and fight until eventually they win. See SSM as a great example. It took 20 years but they got their wish.

Compare that to Republicans. Unless the battle is a slam dunk, they don't even try. And the odd time they kinda sorta try, after a loss, it's "we shall never speak of this again". See govt shutdown.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (0LHZx)

156 Cruz is ripping Teh Donald a new one right now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 03, 2016 03:14 PM (1xUj/)


Awesome.

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (lIU4e)

157 Waiting for someone in the media to ask Obama about this. Someone. Anyone.

#ItWillNeverHappen

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (UhRGU)

158 Donald Trump? The man who went bankrupt running a casino? The guy bragging on his willingness to make deals with Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer?
Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at February 03, 2016 03:18 PM (09f2I)

You're gonna want to get that meme out there even harder than that, you have a lot of ground to make up.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (xuouz)

159 Do you know who else helped spread the meme that not raising the debt limit = default on the debt? That would be Glenn Beck. Can't remember if he also said that it would be racist, though.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at February 03, 2016 03:24 PM (nFdGS)

160 Gosh, it's almost as though the pathetic porkers of the Beltway GOP were never serious about the shutdown at all, and were grasping at any feeble excuse to stop it. But we all know that can't possibly be true.



Once you realize that the GOPe is playing for the other side, it all makes sense.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:24 PM (kca06)

161
We must fund planned parenthood and obamaphones or we will default. Cutting any spending would be disastrous.

Posted by: Super Conservative Paul Ryan at February 03, 2016 03:25 PM (ODxAs)

162 8 Oh yea, I'm in stage 6 for sure. I'm so PO'd at Trump for trashing the rest of the field at this point and having Sarah Palin on the bandwagon. I had respect for her but I can't believe she bought this Trump stuff. Don't get me wrong I certainly would have voted for him, but now, I'm not so sure. He's so petty and small.


Posted by: Jaimo

I'm looking forward to your support. Every little bit helps and it just might make the difference.

Posted by: Hillary! at February 03, 2016 03:25 PM (kfcYC)

163 Yeah. The guy who took $700 million and turned it into $9 BILLION.


So, you're saying I'm qualified?

Posted by: George Soros at February 03, 2016 03:25 PM (1xUj/)

164 Nah,the left has even more tribes.They will settle up with each other once they have completely destroyed the opposition.

Posted by: steevy at February 03, 2016 03:26 PM (8HTq1)

165 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (0LHZx)

Don't you say on every thread about social issues that they're non-starters that we should give up on?

Being genuinely curious here.

Posted by: joe at February 03, 2016 03:26 PM (KUaJL)

166 You'd think Ace was accusing Obama and his minions of lying. They'd never do that as the American people would get so inflamed if they ever caught any President lying to them.

Posted by: Jock-Strap at February 03, 2016 03:26 PM (Tqo9Y)

167 Nah,the left has even more tribes.They will settle up with each other once they have completely destroyed the opposition.



See the last thread or so. One tribe eating the other. Bern v Clinton.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:27 PM (kca06)

168 Cruz is ripping Teh Donald a new one right now.

I hate this I wish they'd both focus on the Democrats instead. But with how hard Trump is hammering him on some stuff Cruz volunteers did, he kind of has to

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:27 PM (39g3+)

169
I'm looking forward to your support. Every little bit helps and it just might make the difference.
Posted by: Hillary! at February 03, 2016 03:25 PM (kfcYC)
..................

...she said to the coin.

Posted by: wth at February 03, 2016 03:27 PM (HgMAr)

170 And the first comment on the PJ media article on Obama's visit to the Mosque said it best-

"Who does Obama think he's kidding?"

I think there are too many "As I Christian I think this. As a Christian.... " Methinks he protests too much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:27 PM (w4NZ8)

171
36 It's now impossible to make decent decisions about political matters since nearly all of the information we are given (quarterly GDP anyone) is, let me be gracious, complete and utter lying horseshit.

Only if you don't consider "imprison everyone involved on a dead volcano somewhere in the south Pacific, close down the offices involved, and use the budget to pay down the debt" a proper answer to any political question.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist

Why a dead volcano?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 03, 2016 03:27 PM (kfcYC)

172 Where is Cruz hammering Trump?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (w4NZ8)

173 Would this be the same Glenn Beck that fantasizes about keeping Megyn Kelly in a dungeon?

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (BngQR)

174 Funny how all the Leftie tribes seem to smoke the pipe of peace around election time.

Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (sdxPm)

175 167 They'll unify behind the winner,just like they did when Barky schlonged Hillary.

Posted by: steevy at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (8HTq1)

176 We lied if we implied there even is a hill to die on.

Posted by: The GOPe at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (3U4+k)

177 173: "Would this be the same Glenn Beck that fantasizes about keeping Megyn Kelly in a dungeon?"

Don't we all?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (4nmNX)

178 In fairness to Baron Von Ottomatic; Trump did say he liked and could work with Pelosi, Reid, and Schumer. There is audio of him bragging about this. I just don't get why Trump thinks he would get a good deal. These people do not negotiate in good faith. Instead of making deals with them why not cast them aside and try to get our own party to vote our way? Just sayin.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (UnJ7w)

179 Don't you say on every thread about social issues that they're non-starters that we should give up on?

Being genuinely curious here.
Posted by: joe at February 03, 2016 03:26 PM (KUaJL)

______

I don't say give up. I say don't make it a central issue. Win on fiscal issues and try to chip away on social issues. Doing it the other way doesn't work.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:29 PM (0LHZx)

180 170-exactly. I also think it's his deflection of actually being a believer, because most of what he says "as a Christian" has nothing to do with Christianity whatsoever.

I particularly like how he said Islam was always a part of the US. Does he mean the Barbary pirates, and how the Marines had to defeat them? I'm guessing that's a no.

(and semper fi devil dogs.)

Posted by: Moki at February 03, 2016 03:29 PM (7q2ch)

181 Where is Cruz hammering Trump?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke



In New Hampshire. Shep had it and cut away. CNN was still carrying it until one nanosecond after I posted.

So it may still be happening but not on TV.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 03, 2016 03:29 PM (1xUj/)

182 I don't say give up. I say don't make it a central issue. Win on fiscal issues and try to chip away on social issues. Doing it the other way doesn't work.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:29 PM (0LHZx)

Fair enough.

Posted by: joe at February 03, 2016 03:30 PM (KUaJL)

183 Would this be the same Glenn Beck that fantasizes about keeping Megyn Kelly in a dungeon?
Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (BngQR)

****

You say that like it is a bad thing. What guy here has not had that fantasy?

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 03, 2016 03:31 PM (ZcjFY)

184 Win on fiscal issues and try to chip away on social issues. Doing it the other way doesn't work.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:29 PM (0LHZx)

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**types*

**deletes**


Dont make me google search your tag.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:31 PM (8XRCm)

185 I hate this I wish they'd both focus on the Democrats instead. But with how hard Trump is hammering him on some stuff Cruz volunteers did, he kind of has to
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:27 PM (39g3+)


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How many times does this have to be explained. This is the primaries. They're supposed to be going after each other. It's who they're running against right now. Not the dems.

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2016 03:31 PM (Fmupd)

186 179: "I don't say give up. I say don't make it a central issue. Win on fiscal issues and try to chip away on social issues. Doing it the other way doesn't work."

But the social aspect is the bedrock upon which the fiscal concern is based.

You teach people to not steal because it is wrong, not because it isn't in their best financial interest long term.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (4nmNX)

187 Ace: "But no one will care, because everyone knows, this country ain't gonna fundamentally transform itself."

Exactly. Not one damn thing will be done about it. Water under the bridge never to be addressed again as taxpayers are sent down the river with it.

The epitome of failed government. No actual corrective is ever introduced. The only thing the Federal level of government is successful at is failure.

That's why it's SMOD or Trump for me, whichever comes first. I'd, of course, prefer both simultaneously.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (1CroS)

188 Megyn Kelly is going to be on Colbert's show.

Posted by: steevy at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (8HTq1)

189 177 173: "Would this be the same Glenn Beck that fantasizes about keeping Megyn Kelly in a dungeon?"

Don't we all?

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:28 PM (4nmNX)

Some of you guys really need to come up with better fantasies. I mean, sure, she was great in Rocky IV and all, but she's well past her prime.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (nFdGS)

190
70 Ya think there's ever been a porn movie called, F*ckstorm?



I'm sort of surprised they haven't made a parody of Sharknado called F*cknado myself.

Posted by: Flyguy

Is that still a thing? Used to crack me up looking at the movie section in the newspaper for showtimes and the smut theaters would be showing Top Buns and Rambone right after Top Gun and Rambo came out.


Posted by: Dang at February 03, 2016

There's a German scheisse video out called "Shartnado". It was reminiscent of every hollywood movie made in the last twenty years.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (kfcYC)

191 the president stressed "for more than 1,000 years, people have been drawn to Islam's message of peace."

And a hell of a lot who haven't.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:33 PM (w4NZ8)

192 Megyn Kelly is going to be on Colbert's show.
Posted by: steevy at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (8HTq1)

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Really???


She'd chew him up and spit him out.

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:33 PM (8XRCm)

193 FOIA should be changed to FOKYBF-Freedom of knowing your being fucked.

Posted by: Snicklefritz at February 03, 2016 03:33 PM (Moh0M)

194 How many times does this have to be explained. This is the primaries. They're supposed to be going after each other.

They're running against each other on who is the best to defeat the Democrats. Demonstrate you're the best guy, not that other guys suck more than you. Show how you're the guy who can beat the Democrats and do the best job, not how the other candidates are losers.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:34 PM (39g3+)

195 When is Ace having commenter appreciation day?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 03, 2016 03:34 PM (iQIUe)

196 189: "Some of you guys really need to come up with better fantasies. I mean, sure, she was great in Rocky IV and all, but she's well past her prime."

I will keep my cherished memories. It will take many gallons of hot water to wash them down the shower drain.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:34 PM (4nmNX)

197 Chris Mathews is hammering Clinton's press secretary on why she can't or won't say what the difference is between a socialist and a democrat. I don't think he got the right script.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 03:34 PM (/tuJf)

198 "for more than 1,000 years, people have been drawn to Islam's message of peace."

----

Well . . . . "convert or die" does tend to be a draw for some people...

Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:34 PM (8XRCm)

199 Someone ought to kick the Treasury Secretary in the nuts right before Congress impeaches him for lying under oath.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 03:35 PM (GGCsk)

200 186 179: "I don't say give up. I say don't make it a central issue. Win on fiscal issues and try to chip away on social issues. Doing it the other way doesn't work."

But the social aspect is the bedrock upon which the fiscal concern is based.

You teach people to not steal because it is wrong, not because it isn't in their best financial interest long term.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (4nmNX)

________

I'm saying campaigning on a "we're going end abortion" platform will get you nowhere. Campaiging on a "we're going to be fiscally sound" will. And then once in office, impose some sort of marginal restriction on abortion. Rinse repeat.

That's how the left operates. They didn't nationalize health care by running on nationalizing health care. They ran on other things and over 100 years they added a little bit here, a little bit there to giving the govt control over health care.

And you notice nobody prior to 2008 actually said they were for gay marriage.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:35 PM (0LHZx)

201 I am so in the mood to see some perp walks. If only the GOPe had some actual balls or spines.
America, it really was fun.

Posted by: Jock-Strap at February 03, 2016 03:36 PM (Tqo9Y)

202 for more than 1,000 years, people have been drawn to Islam's message of peace.

Islam has no message of peace. None. It has a message of submission and obedience, which will result in peace if everyone caves in and bows, but that's a side effect, not a goal. At no point does Muhammad call for peace or consider it a virtue. At no point is peace a tenet of Islam. At no point is Allah or Muhammad praised in terms of "peace."

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+)

203 Megyn Kelly is going to be on Colbert's show.
Posted by: steevy at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (8HTq1)

_____

Two progressive TV personalities having a nice chat.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:36 PM (0LHZx)

204 Was napping and got 3 emergency calls from the Navy about bullshit so there goes that nap...then I look and read some of what that fuck Fredo said at the mosque and almost lost my lunch.

Fuck 2017 can't come soon enough

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:37 PM (DUoqb)

205 192

http://tinyurl.com/pspswnk

Posted by: steevy at February 03, 2016 03:37 PM (8HTq1)

206 Hammering each other on the issues is more than fair game. Personal attacks outside of policy positions is crossing the line. Trump has always crossed the personal line and though pointed, Cruz always attacked policy positions. Unfortunately Trump may be bringing Cruz down with him to the personal level. Hoping Cruz can avoid that trap.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 03, 2016 03:37 PM (5FQVt)

207 "Some of you guys really need to come up with better fantasies. I mean, sure, she was great in Rocky IV and all, but she's well past her prime."

I will keep my cherished memories. It will take many gallons of hot water to wash them down the shower drain.



31 yr old fantasies need to be retired at some point.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:37 PM (kca06)

208 I hope that Ace will have thread on "Obama does Mosque" because some of the lines they gave him to say are so ludicrous they're-appalingly funny. But I won't put anymore up; I already took over this thread too much. Sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (w4NZ8)

209 for more than 1,000 years, people have been drawn to Islam's message of peace.

Islam has no message of peace. None. It has a message of submission and obedience, which will result in peace if everyone caves in and bows, but that's a side effect, not a goal. At no point does Muhammad call for peace or consider it a virtue. At no point is peace a tenet of Islam. At no point is Allah or Muhammad praised in terms of "peace."
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+)

exactly and everywhere islam is today rape murder war and rape follow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (DUoqb)

210 I'm saying campaigning on a "we're going end abortion" platform will get you nowhere. Campaiging on a "we're going to be fiscally sound" will. And then once in office, impose some sort of marginal restriction on abortion. Rinse repeat.

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There is little proof of your first statement. That being said, I'm fine with your second statement.

Posted by: SH at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (gmeXX)

211 What "Caitlyn" has planned for "her"self Obama plans for America. Only difference is the scale.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (wKcQA)

212 You think I'm crazy. But hear me out.

Objection. Assumes facts as evidence.

*okay, so I'd make a shitty lawyer... sue me*

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 03, 2016 03:39 PM (gyKtp)

213 Two progressive TV personalities having a nice chat.

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I get the sense both will vote Hillary.

Posted by: SH at February 03, 2016 03:39 PM (gmeXX)

214 31 yr old fantasies need to be retired at some point.

I will never give up Phoebe Cates from my fantasies

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:39 PM (39g3+)

215 31 yr old fantasies need to be retired at some point.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:37 PM (kca06)

****

You will have to pry Mary Anne and Ginger from my cold, dead Spank Bank.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 03, 2016 03:39 PM (ZcjFY)

216 Recall the blocking of parking spaces to deny vacationers scenic views of national parks? If that isn't a Ckuf You to American sensibilities, I don't know what is.

And the GOPe decide that highlighting such contempt wasn't worth shutting Team Obama down. Only collusion explains such behaviors because collusion is ultimately what it is.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 03:40 PM (1CroS)

217 Chris Mathews is hammering Clinton's press secretary on why she can't or won't say what the difference is between a socialist and a democrat. I don't think he got the right script.


I saw that. Matthews has been hilarious on this. "Come on, it's not hard!".

Hillary is an idiot and her shill was a deer in the headlights trying to not go off her message.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 03, 2016 03:40 PM (1xUj/)

218 190

There's a German scheisse video out called "Shartnado". It was reminiscent of every hollywood movie made in the last twenty years.



Posted by: Dirks Strewn at February 03, 2016 03:32 PM (kfcYC)


I don't want to know how you know this, but this, coincidentally is the story of Obama.

Posted by: rebel flounder at February 03, 2016 03:40 PM (3dOE/)

219 I get the sense both will vote Hillary.

Megyn Kelly will vote for teh Vagina, and Colbert will vote for whatever that guy's name is with the (D) by his name.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:40 PM (39g3+)

220 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+)

O.k. Now somebody has to convince O'Bummer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:41 PM (w4NZ8)

221 exactly and everywhere islam is today rape murder war and rape follow



Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (DUoqb)

But to be fair, that's because of Western Oppression of the RoP during the Crusades!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 03, 2016 03:41 PM (wYnyS)

222 "That's how the left operates. They didn't nationalize health care by
running on nationalizing health care. They ran on other things and over
100 years they added a little bit here, a little bit there to giving the
govt control over health care."

With regular assistance along the road from the Beltway GOP.

Look at CHIP, about which Hillary Clinton constantly crows on the campaign trail as being one of her central career accomplishments.

CHIP was a key Clinton goal. It was one of the biggest expansions of federalized health care since the Great Society. And it was enacted by Noot Gingrich's allegedly conservative Republican Congress in 1997. Because caring givers.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2016 03:42 PM (noWW6)

223 It has a message of submission and obedience
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (DUoqb)

The message of Islam is a message of submission and obedience TO GOD. Now how the these goat fucking inbreds go about it is the problem. The Arab/Muslim culture is not one of a civil society. All these western concepts from the Great Enlightenment are alien to most in the middle east countries with a couple of pockets here and there.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:42 PM (UnJ7w)

224 Deadpool has a new bit out about checking your furry beanbags for cancer. Somehow its still funny.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:42 PM (39g3+)

225 Why a dead volcano?

Because if it's live, I might have to find a new island at some point. Efficiency, don'cha know.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 03, 2016 03:43 PM (9krrF)

226 Ya'know, I'm just tired of my government lying right to my face, then when they're caught having them just say "eh, whatchagonnado?".

It's like they're promising not to do that thing in my mouth whilst holding a gun to my head and forcing me to fellate them.

Posted by: Chupacabra at February 03, 2016 03:43 PM (CGjum)

227 There are actually names for what a lot of you are discussing: The Washington Monument Syndrome or Mount Rushmore Syndrome or Firemen First Principle

But most people are too stupid to know about it.

Posted by: Brunnhilde at February 03, 2016 03:43 PM (aW5/6)

228 I don't know. Maybe I should vote for Hillary. Take my retirement in a fun camp.

Posted by: Soona at February 03, 2016 03:43 PM (Fmupd)

229 The message of Islam is a message of submission and obedience TO GOD.

Ehhh, sort of. The problem is, the clerics and mullahs are considered the voice of God, so they end up being the ones everyone submits to, not Allah.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:43 PM (39g3+)

230 With regular assistance along the road from the Beltway GOP.

I sometimes think it's a good thing Obama was president when they passed the ACA. If it had been any other Democrat, they would have negotiated piddling changes to the bill and got more than enough Republican votes to let the press call it bipartisan.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 03, 2016 03:44 PM (2lndx)

231 199 Someone ought to kick the Treasury Secretary in the nuts right before Congress impeaches him for lying under oath.
Posted by: Marcus T
___________

Ow, my balls!

Posted by: Jack Lew at February 03, 2016 03:44 PM (3GAnN)

232 That's how the left operates. They didn't nationalize health care by running on nationalizing health care. They ran on other things and over 100 years they added a little bit here, a little bit there to giving the govt control over health care.

Oh, and when they "repeal and replace", kiss your HIPAA protections goodbye. They're going to monetize your health data the same way they monetized your data on the Internet and that's going to be their brilliant plan for bringing costs down. Bet on it.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 03, 2016 03:44 PM (9krrF)

233 exactly and everywhere islam is today rape murder war and rape follow


You said "murder" twice.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 03, 2016 03:45 PM (LUgeY)

234 The problem is, the clerics and mullahs are considered the voice of God, so they end up being the ones everyone submits to, not Allah.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:43 PM (39g3+)

No argument from me there sir.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:45 PM (UnJ7w)

235 Nevergiveup: "...then I look and read some of what that fuck Fredo said at the mosque and almost lost my lunch."

See, here's the thing about that. Don't ever pay attention to SCoaMF when his yap opens. He's either lying or wrong so it's a waste of time. Helps digestion immensely.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 03:45 PM (1CroS)

236 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:43 PM (39g3+)

Yes, and worse, it's allah as interpreted by a local maniac imam, not God as you choose to worship Him!

But other than that, it's a religion of peace,


mostly!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 03, 2016 03:46 PM (wYnyS)

237 You will have to pry Mary Anne and Ginger from my cold, dead Spank Bank.



Look at current pics.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:46 PM (kca06)

238 And then in 2005 (I think it was?) the GOP house and senate overrode Bush's veto of expanding CHIP.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:46 PM (0LHZx)

239 Mary Anne ain't bad for a 70 year old. Ginger is dead, I think.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:47 PM (39g3+)

240 See, here's the thing about that. Don't ever pay attention to SCoaMF when his yap opens. He's either lying or wrong so it's a waste of time. Helps digestion immensely.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 03:45 PM (1CroS)
-------
Someone once told me on this site that salted caramel (which I had criticized) helps when hearing the SCoaMF.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 03, 2016 03:47 PM (NUqwG)

241 "They're going to monetize your health data the same way they monetized
your data on the Internet and that's going to be their brilliant plan
for bringing costs down. Bet on it."

Considering the incredibly unreliable and fubared state of official health data in America circa 2016, there may not be that much monetizable value available from it.

Posted by: torquewrench at February 03, 2016 03:47 PM (noWW6)

242 Look at current pics.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:46 PM (kca06)

*****

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Posted by: Tim in GA at February 03, 2016 03:47 PM (ZcjFY)

243 As the investigation into the deadly shooting and stabbing near Jerusalem's Damascus Gate on Wednesday continues, a fuller picture has emerged of the Border Police officers' heroism in preventing a worse attack.

A team of four police officers, two men and two women, spotted two Arabs sitting on a bench. When they approached and demanded to see their identity cards, one opened fire while the other rushed at the police officers with a knife.

Hadar Cohen managed to kill one of the terrorists, before a third attacker came and shot her in the head, critically wounding her. She died several hours later at Hadassah Mount Scopus hospital from wounds sustained in the attack.

The second female police officer injured in the attack also managed to fend off one of the terrorists, wrestling with him despite stab wounds all over her body. Initially seriously injured, her condition has improved and is now listed as moderate.

As stated, Cohen managed to kill one terrorist while the second was shot dead by another Border Police officer at the scene. The third terrorist, who attacked Cohen from behind, was eliminated by a police officer who arrived later.

Chief Superintendent Shlomi Yosef, the commander of Cohen's Border Police unit, praised her "heroic and determined actions in cocking her weapon and eliminating the terrorist," before expressing his sorrow at her death.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:48 PM (DUoqb)

244 The message of Islam is a message of submission and obedience TO GOD.

Actually, the false idol they prey to is some moon god.

It's not the God of Abraham or Jesus' Dad. Not by a long shot. It's not even a real religion since there's nothing in it about forgiveness, patience, or anything that makes you a better person.

Goatfucking is not redemption.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 03, 2016 03:48 PM (LUgeY)

245 Look at current pics.


Pfft!

Posted by: 1978 Nastassja Kinski at February 03, 2016 03:48 PM (1xUj/)

246 108 The WWII Memorial. Its unstaffed. They barricaded it.
...
We were WINNING the damned point and the GOPe and their enablers surrendered, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Fuckholes.
Posted by: fixerupper at February 03, 2016 03:08 PM (8XRCm)


Analysis: TRUE.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 03:48 PM (s5o+q)

247 Oh, and when they "repeal and replace", kiss your HIPAA protections goodbye. They're going to monetize your health data the same way they monetized your data on the Internet and that's going to be their brilliant plan for bringing costs down. Bet on it.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 03, 2016 03:44 PM (9krrF)

_____

Oh yeah it's aleady happening. Tons of money being spent to digitize/share all health care data.

And yet every time I go to a doctor, I still have to fill out a 19 page form with the same info I filled out the last time I saw a doctor. That data sharing is going to work great.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:49 PM (0LHZx)

248 exactly and everywhere islam is today rape murder war and rape follow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (DUoqb)


You just have to find a way to avoid them

-German Mayor

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 03:49 PM (fWAjv)

249 And then in 2005 (I think it was?) the GOP house and senate overrode Bush's veto of expanding CHIP.

Bush repeatedly asked congress for lower spending, reining in Fannie Mae, restructuring finance laws to stop loans to people who cannot repay, etc. He really did try to be fiscally responsible, but would not usurp congressional power. I don't think his concept of the DHS was a new gargantuan mega-agency, but rather a small clearing house to make sure agencies coordinated better.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:49 PM (39g3+)

250 >>>It's like they're promising not to do that thing in my mouth whilst holding a gun to my head and forcing me to fellate them.<<<

I remember reading here that some people will pay extra for that.

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 03:49 PM (BngQR)

251 Well, of since other people are talking about Obama at the Mosque, I'll continue:

"Adams and Jefferson had their own copies of the Koran"

And made it clear they thought Islam was barbaric. (Obama left out that part.)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:50 PM (w4NZ8)

252 As far as I know, there is nowhere in the koran where it states Islam is the religion of peace. Maybe some little known hadith. When the royal family of Saudi Arabia is and has been funding radical islam since the discovery of their oil it's know wonder those goat fuckers believe this insane shit.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:50 PM (UnJ7w)

253 And yet every time I go to a doctor, I still have to fill out a 19 page form with the same info I filled out the last time I saw a doctor. That data sharing is going to work great.

And that's going to be the hook. "We can do this more efficiently! Less paperwork! Better collaboration! If only..."

It's as predictable as the tides and sunrise.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 03, 2016 03:50 PM (9krrF)

254 I should have posted this a while ago, but Yellowstone Caldera has had its campaign video showing on Smithsonian Channel this past hour.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 03:51 PM (s5o+q)

255 We were WINNING the damned point and the GOPe and their enablers surrendered, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Same thing happened in the 90s with the Newt Congress shutdown. They almost won, then gave up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:51 PM (39g3+)

256 Mary Anne ain't bad for a 70 year old. Ginger is dead, I think.


I'm not dead. I don't want to go on the cart!

Posted by: Tina Louise at February 03, 2016 03:51 PM (8ZskC)

257 exactly and everywhere islam is today rape murder war and rape follow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:38 PM (DUoqb)


You just have to find a way to avoid them

-German Mayor
Posted by: RWC



Best defense is a super strong offense.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:52 PM (kca06)

258 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 03:48 PM (DUoqb)


19 years old.


RIP Hadar Cohen

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 03:52 PM (fWAjv)

259 As far as I know, there is nowhere in the koran where it states Islam is the religion of peace.

I think that turkey came from George Bush in one of his "compassionate conservatism" moments. Just dumb. They were more afraid of some mythical backlash against Muslims than actual Muslim activity.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:52 PM (39g3+)

260 243- I wonder why they asked to see their ID-were the men doing something untoward or suspicious? I'm not questioning their actions, I am genuinely curious as to what motivated them. The Israelis have a pretty solid profiling technique, so I am wondering what the men were doing that provoked the police.

Daughter is considering going to Israel this summer with Hillel, and I am considering her safety.

Posted by: Moki at February 03, 2016 03:52 PM (7q2ch)

261 Best defense is a super strong offense.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:52 PM (kca06)


See the barbarian . . . kill the barbarian.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 03:53 PM (s5o+q)

262 I keep banging the Islam is a religion of peace wall into my head but it's not getting through

Posted by: Skip at February 03, 2016 03:53 PM (hk3Fb)

263 "The Peace Be Upon You"

Posted by: RioBravo at February 03, 2016 03:53 PM (NUqwG)

264 They were more afraid of some mythical backlash against Muslims than actual Muslim activity.


Thus establishing a venerated American tradition.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2016 03:54 PM (8ZskC)

265 >>The message of Islam is a message of submission and obedience TO GOD.<<

I guess that includes things like cutting off the heads or torturing to death non-believers and using your children as HBIED's to blow up the infidels.

It's to any God I know in terms of what I've actually saw. And when they quote their book of evil spells to back it up, I know exactly what islam is- and it is not a religion, it's a death cult and the only "believers" who are pacifistic or benevolent are apostates by the measure of their own book.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 03:54 PM (GGCsk)

266 It's not the God of Abraham or Jesus' Dad. Not by a long shot. It's not even a real religion since there's nothing in it about forgiveness, patience, or anything that makes you a better person.

Goatfucking is not redemption.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 03, 2016 03:48 PM (LUgeY)

Your issues with interpretation of monotheistic religion is your problem. Islam is considered one of the three main Abrahamic religions. Unless they believe in a bizzaro version of Abraham, jesus, moses, and mary to name a few, your argument is no more a wish or personal belief. But why do I care what you believe? I don't give a fuck frankly.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:54 PM (UnJ7w)

267 >>>Well, of since other people are talking about Obama at the Mosque, I'll continue:



"Adams and Jefferson had their own copies of the Koran"



And made it clear they thought Islam was barbaric. (Obama left out that part.)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 03:50 PM (w4NZ<<<

Yeah. A "know your enemy" thing.

Posted by: zombie Thomas Jefferson at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (H9MG5)

268 Two-part question:
a) Is it rape if they're already dead?
and
b) If not, then if you plan to kill them after, is THAT rape?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: not ISIS, thats for sure at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (wKcQA)

269 Best defense is a super strong offense.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:52 PM (kca06)


Is that allowed in EU countries??

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (fWAjv)

270 So then islam's god needs a horde of barbarian goatfuckers to ice his opponents for him? Doesn't seem so all-powerful to me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (8ZskC)

271 Apparently Islam is the "religion of peace" unless you're not Islamic.

I think that there is the problem.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (1CroS)

272 Unless they believe in a bizzaro version of Abraham, jesus, moses, and mary to name a few

Actually, that's exactly what's in the Koran.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (s5o+q)

273 Your issues with interpretation of monotheistic religion is your problem. Islam is considered one of the three main Abrahamic religions.

Why is the LDS not counted as a 4th branch?

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (evdj2)

274 And that's going to be the hook. "We can do this more efficiently! Less paperwork! Better collaboration! If only..."

It's as predictable as the tides and sunrise.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 03, 2016 03:50 PM (9krrF)

_____

Well in 2016 you really shouldn't have to fill out paperwork on actual pieces of paper. But that's a separate issue from the govt mandating everyone share everything.

Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:56 PM (0LHZx)

275 >>"Adams and Jefferson had their own copies of the Koran"
<<

As a means of learning about and understanding the enemy we fought in the Barbary Wars.

They both made in clear it wasn't a measure of admiration or subservience to their false God.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 03:56 PM (GGCsk)

276 Unless they believe in a bizzaro version of Abraham, jesus, moses, and mary to name a few,

Yeah, they do. Their version of Abraham has Ishmael being the true son, their version of Jesus was just some dude that didn't die on the cross, and their version of Moses did not teach a new faith and nation to Israelites, but just confirmed Arabic tradition and belief passed on from previous prophets.

Every one of them is a twisted, false version.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:56 PM (39g3+)

277 ...Islam is considered one of the three main Abrahamic religions. ...

A lot of evidence islam is made up. Jew envy. Reason no mohamed pictures. See Usual Suspects.

Posted by: just saying at February 03, 2016 03:57 PM (rnH8X)

278 Why is the LDS not counted as a 4th branch?

Primarily because it does not trace its origins to Abraham, and secondarily because it claims to just be Christianity, but more true and stuff.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:57 PM (39g3+)

279 Why is the LDS not counted as a 4th branch?
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That would be included under Christianity. Branch Number 2.

Posted by: RioBravo at February 03, 2016 03:57 PM (NUqwG)

280 I will keep my cherished memories. It will take many gallons of hot water to wash them down the shower drain.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at February 03, 2016 03:34 PM (4nmNX)

Serious laugh on this one. SICKO

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 03:58 PM (xuouz)

281 So then islam's god needs a horde of barbarian goatfuckers to ice his opponents for him?

Allah is incredibly detatched and almost utterly unconcerned about humanity, in Islam. He's not merciful, loving, or forgiving, he's hard and cold and just and has it all planned out and the hell with you.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)

282 Your issues with interpretation of monotheistic religion is your problem. Islam is considered one of the three main Abrahamic religions. Unless they believe in a bizzaro version of Abraham, jesus, moses, and mary to name a few, your argument is no more a wish or personal belief.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:54 PM (UnJ7w)


They sort of do make up their own stuff with Abraham, moses, etc, or at least it's my understanding.

Christianity and judiasm share the first book. Islam came along hundreds of years later and just made up their own stuff. I don't think the three religions are as connected as you think.

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 03:59 PM (lIU4e)

283 Islam is considered (primarily by Mohammedans) one of the three main Abrahamic religions.

It is at best a heresy from the Christian point of view.

It is the worship of false gods and idols from the Jewish point of view.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 03:59 PM (s5o+q)

284 Mohammed just co-opted a cast of characters from Christianity and Judaism and constructed his own theology around them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2016 03:59 PM (8ZskC)

285 Islam did help get the Navy moving can't deny that.

Posted by: Skip at February 03, 2016 03:59 PM (hk3Fb)

286 share the old testament, I meant to say. Not the first book.

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 03:59 PM (lIU4e)

287 Why is the LDS not counted as a 4th branch?
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (evdj2)


That's an offshoot of christianity I believe. Other than my limited knowledge on the church of LDS I neither know nor care.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 03:59 PM (UnJ7w)

288 266 Just because Islam is a monotheistic religion does not mean it is on par with Judeo-Christianity. It is an aberration of those faiths due to Mohammed's influence with Nestorian Christians (heretical group who denied the deity of Christ), an incomplete understanding of Judaism, and his own picking and choosing. (See the hadiths that dictate which hand you wipe your bum with, and what direction you face when you urinate because that is how Mohammed did it) And as a matter of fact, they do believe a bizarro version of Abraham, Jesus, Moses and Mary. So your ignorance is far greater than of those you criticize.

Posted by: Moki at February 03, 2016 04:00 PM (7q2ch)

289 Brian Williams just said Ron Paul dropped out of the race.

Then someone yelled in his ear and he corrected himself.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at February 03, 2016 04:00 PM (1xUj/)

290 This revelation, while true is irrelevant. The Washington based GOP are perfectly content to play the same role as the Washington Generals. They go out and perform but every body knows how every contest will end. And the Washington Generals make a very comfortable living putting on their shows.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at February 03, 2016 04:00 PM (MpvuV)

291 >>Islam did help get the Navy moving can't deny that.

Not to mention the Marines.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (/tuJf)

292 I really don't give a fuck if Islam is a branch of Abrahamic religion whatever. ISIS and al-Quaeda and whatever other jumped up death cult claims Islam. Makes me suspicious of Islam in general. Don't care if that's fair or not.

Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (sdxPm)

293 Best defense is a super strong offense.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 03:52 PM (kca06)


Is that allowed in EU countries??
Posted by: RWC




Soon.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (kca06)

294 >>Your issues with interpretation of monotheistic religion is your
problem. Islam is considered one of the three main Abrahamic religions.<

And the entire argument for their islam's inclusion is sophistic and outright dishonest. They try to claim that all the judeo-Christian prophets who cam before they made up islam, were preaching islam. Huh?

I'm just curious- did Abraham ever speak of Islam? No of course he didn't.

You have to remember this is a smart military blog. We aren't ordinary morons.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (GGCsk)

295 Mohammed just co-opted a cast of characters from Christianity and Judaism and constructed his own theology around them.

Pretty much. He was raised by Christians, got heavily influenced by Jews and was fascinated with them. So he made up his own religion based on some vague memories of each other faith, heavily salted with Arabic culture and tradition. Its basically an attempt to create an Arabic version of both faiths, because Muhammad was a massive bigot.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:02 PM (39g3+)

296 I don't think his concept of the DHS was a new gargantuan mega-agency, but rather a small clearing house to make sure agencies coordinated better.

He didn't even originally plan to add it. The recommendations from the 9/11 commission were all big-government crap, and he was ignoring it, but the Democrats kept pounding on him for ignoring the True Scientific Findings of the commission.

At the time I thought they were playing with fire. Didn't they know that if they convinced him to follow the recommendations it would morph into a giant police state. Now, of course, I know that's what they wanted.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at February 03, 2016 04:03 PM (2lndx)

297 You have to remember this is a smart military blog. We aren't ordinary morons.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (GGCsk)


And it's mid-day. We're still hopped up on caffeine.

Later, we switch to booze.

Okay, some of us may already have switched.

Okay, some of us may have started with the booze and may switch to caffeine later, if they haven't passed out first.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:03 PM (s5o+q)

298 What is Islam?


Islam is-

those little dust bunnies under your bed.

You try to sweep them off the wooden floor and they run away and whirl in circles.

That what Islam is.










Oh, and socialism too.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 03, 2016 04:03 PM (0cMkb)

299 Apparently Islam is the "religion of peace" unless you're not Islamic.



I think that there is the problem.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 03:55 PM (1CroS)

I think you have to be the "right" sort of islamic to get a pass, see sunni/shia/etc.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 03, 2016 04:04 PM (wYnyS)

300 Islam did help get the Navy moving can't deny that.

Not to mention the Marines.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (/tuJf)


So, islamists are training aids and target practice? Interesting...

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at February 03, 2016 04:04 PM (wKcQA)

301 Every one of them is a twisted, false version.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 03:56 PM (39g3+)

That's true, but it is incorrect to say it is not an Abrahamic religion. That would be like saying Judaism is not an abrahamic religion. Don't believe me? Just ask the Jews if they believe jesus is god. Hell they deny Jesus was even the Messiah, even the goat fuckers accept this, hence his name in arabic Isa Masih.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 04:04 PM (UnJ7w)

302 Islam did help get the Navy moving can't deny that.

Not to mention the Marines.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (/tuJf)

Made for a great song for sure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 04:05 PM (DUoqb)

303 That's true, but it is incorrect to say it is not an Abrahamic religion.

I agree, it is a religion that takes its origins from Abraham. Its a mess, but I was trying to note that your requirement that they have a messed up version of each was met.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:05 PM (39g3+)

304 Islam has no message of peace. None. It has a message of submission and obedience, which will result in peace if everyone caves in and bows, but that's a side effect, not a goal. At no point does Muhammad call for peace or consider it a virtue.

====

Bill Maher of all people is pretty good on this. Said recently that Lefties have it all backwards; that the more you know about Islam the more frightened you'll become.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hands at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (3ZtZW)

305 >>>Mohammed just co-opted a cast of characters from Christianity and Judaism and constructed his own theology around them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 03, 2016 03:59 PM (8ZskC)<<<

I don't see the problem there.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (H9MG5)

306 That's true, but it is incorrect to say it is not an Abrahamic religion. That would be like saying Judaism is not an abrahamic religion. Don't believe me? Just ask the Jews if they believe jesus is god. Hell they deny Jesus was even the Messiah, even the goat fuckers accept this, hence his name in arabic Isa Masih.
Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 04:04 PM (UnJ7w)


I say this in the most loving, caring way, but you suck at theology.

Go away, learn, and then return when you can snatch the pebble from our hands, grasshopper.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (s5o+q)

307 >>> Why is the LDS not counted as a 4th branch?
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That would be included under Christianity. Branch Number 2.
Posted by: RioBravo at February 03, 2016 03:57 PM (NUqwG)

What Rio said.

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (hvf9s)

308 Listening to Rush today briefly and he was describing a conversation he had with Rubio about why Rubio is leaving the Senate if he loses the election for President.

Rubio told him that it is impossible to get anything done in the Senate.That the only thing the republican senators in the senate want to do is protect their senate seat at all costs. And do whatever the party leader wants in order to someday get annointed for good behavior to a position of power where you can actually do something. Rubio said he figured it would take him 30 years of being a sitting senator before he could possibly be in a position that would allow him to do anything of substance.
Rush said Cruz has said essentially the same thing. That the Senate is completely, utterly broken into party politics and doing nothing that upsets the party leaders.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (K0Iz7)

309 I agree, it is a religion that takes its origins from Abraham.

It alleges an Abrahamic connection.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (evdj2)

310 So, islamists are training aids and target practice? Interesting...
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at February 03, 2016 04:04 PM (wKcQA)

Think of all the priceless performance data gathered while we were hunting those poor backwards goatfucking sons of bitches with FLIR equipped hellfire-armed reaper drones.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 04:07 PM (xuouz)

311 It's Come To This: Jeb Bush Has To Ask Audience To 'Please Clap'

-WZ


BWWWWAAAAHAAAHAAAAA

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 04:07 PM (fWAjv)

312 You have to remember this is a smart military blog. We aren't ordinary morons.
Posted by: Marcus T at February 03, 2016 04:01 PM (GGCsk)

Oh for fuck's sake. This is a "Very Smart Military Blog", not the Vatican or Martin Luther's Marauders. Hell the owner of the blog is atheist, lol.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 04:07 PM (UnJ7w)

313 I say it's only good to get your blood up and go kick some ass, otherwise I see no redeeming value.

Posted by: Skip at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (hk3Fb)

314
What is Islam?


Islam is-

when you are eating a big slice of ice cold watermelon on a hot summer day-

and some of the juice drips off your chin and lands on your shorts

then soaks through and touches your peen.

Then your peen gets hard.

That's what Islam is.











Oh, and socialism too.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (0cMkb)

315 It alleges an Abrahamic connection.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (evdj2)


If I made up a religion called 'Leaism', with some fake Abraham/moses stories to go with it and said I heard it from Gabriel would that count as an 'abrahamic' religion?

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (lIU4e)

316 Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hands at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (3ZtZW)


If Maher has seen the truth of islam, then you know it must be even scarier then he's letting on!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (wYnyS)

317 Well, sonofabitch! They lied, you say? Democrats lied?

Posted by: Eromero at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (zLDYs)

318 I don't think his concept of the DHS was a new gargantuan mega-agency, but rather a small clearing house to make sure agencies coordinated better.

He didn't even originally plan to add it. The recommendations from the 9/11 commission were all big-government crap, and he was ignoring it, but the Democrats kept pounding on him for ignoring the True Scientific Findings of the commission.
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DHS created by HSA: November 2002
DHS open: March 1, 2003
Commission created: Nov 22, 2002
Commission Report: July 22, 2004

Posted by: RioBravo at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (NUqwG)

319 >>> It's Come To This: Jeb Bush Has To Ask Audience To 'Please Clap' WZ
BWWWWAAAAHAAAHAAAAA
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 04:07 PM (fWAjv)

What is the sounds of one hand clapping? A Jeb rally apparently.

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (hvf9s)

320 Pres says Muslim political leaders 'have to push back on the lie' that the West represses Muslims.



O.O

*shocked

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (fWAjv)

321 It's Come To This: Jeb Bush Has To Ask Audience To 'Please Clap'
-WZ
BWWWWAAAAHAAAHAAAAA
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 04:07 PM (fWAjv)

It's not even funny anymore, it's so embarrassing. And I don't even like the guy.

Go home Jeb. Learn how to make candles or something.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (xuouz)

322 Days after making a crude remark to a T.V. reporter, the president of the Maricopa County National Association for the Advancement of Colored People resigned from his position.

Don Harris, who had been heading NAACPs local chapter in Arizona for 13 months, had come under fire for telling a T.V. reporter Monique Griego, nice tits. The cameras were off when Harris said his comments but a reporter from the Phoenix New Times captured it on his audio recorder.

Most honest member of the NAACP I ever heard of..I think, but I would need a pic to be sure?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (DUoqb)

323 I had the unfortunate opportunity to listen to Michael Medved yesterday and today.

Why couldn't any of you have come to me like men and told me that he is an asshole?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (Zu3d9)

324 Crom laughs at your three main Abrahamic religions. That's Crom, strong on his mountain.

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (BngQR)

325 317 Well, sonofabitch! They lied, you say? Democrats lied?
Posted by: Eromero at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (zLDYs)


Stunning, isn't it? I imagine all the nightly news broadcasts will be all over the story. We Can Trust Them.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (s5o+q)

326 >>> If I made up a religion called 'Leaism', with some fake Abraham/moses stories to go with it and said I heard it from Gabriel would that count as an 'abrahamic' religion?
Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:08 PM (lIU4e)

Do you have a flying horse? It's not a real religion until you have a flying horse.

Posted by: Mohammed, peace be upon me at February 03, 2016 04:10 PM (hvf9s)

327 Go away, learn, and then return when you can snatch the pebble from our hands, grasshopper.
Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:06 PM (s5o+q)

I know more about Islam than you think you know, trust me, I got a guy on the inside. Shhhhhhhh. Please don't tell anyone Mr. Fartwell.

Posted by: Arson Wells at February 03, 2016 04:10 PM (UnJ7w)

328 "Abrahamic Religion" means one that comes from the peoples resulting from Abraham: Arabs came from Ishmael, the bastard son of Abraham by his servant girl. Of course Muslims say he was the true son but whatever.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:10 PM (39g3+)

329 155 You know why Dems always win? Because they fight. Even battles they know they have no chance of winning they fight..and fight..and fight until eventually they win. See SSM as a great example. It took 20 years but they got their wish.

Compare that to Republicans. Unless the battle is a slam dunk, they don't even try. And the odd time they kinda sorta try, after a loss, it's "we shall never speak of this again". See govt shutdown.
Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 03, 2016 03:23 PM (0LHZx)

----------------

Prime example, Social Security reform.

The Republican MO is to give a half-assed fight and if you then you give up.

The funniest thing the past couple of years in politics was Rubio's bold declaration to fight for religious liberty after the gay marriage decision. That's very comforting coming from a bunch of losers. If they have the same success defending religious liberty as they did with gay marriage I'll probably be force to bake penis cookies entwined together for gay pride parades or ramping up prayers to Allah.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 03, 2016 04:10 PM (LXJ1e)

330 I had the unfortunate opportunity to listen to Michael Medved yesterday and today.

Why couldn't any of you have come to me like men and told me that he is an asshole?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (Zu3d9)


Medved's been an asshole for, like, ever dude!

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (s5o+q)

331 Cicero (@cicero): "Mohammed just co-opted a cast of characters from Christianity and Judaism and constructed his own theology around them."

Bully for Mohammed.

Posted by: LRonH at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (1CroS)

332 This is all very interesting, but we can't mention this because it would upset the moderates, sending them straight to national or soviet socialism.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (EjBTO)

333 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 03, 2016 04:09 PM (Zu3d9)


You haven't been paying attention, have you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (wYnyS)

334 I cannot work out why Jeb hasn't dropped out yet. He's so dead in the water some Oregonians are working on how to dynamite him.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (39g3+)

335 "But no one will care, because everyone knows, this country ain't gonna fundamentally transform itself."

no one will care because everyone knows they're in a fricking bar fight with brass knuckles

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:12 PM (31DWQ)

336 just a reminder, Obama regime lied about everything at everystep of the way.

and in 8 years, the GOP never called him out on it.

That's why his lame duck years are still fraught with danger. That, and, mcconnel and ryan are apparently dnc sleeper agents.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 03, 2016 04:12 PM (EjBTO)

337 Medved used to be okay, a while back. Kind of boring though because his entire show was arguing with idiot leftists and it got dull.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:12 PM (39g3+)

338 Whereas Scientology is a Hubbardic religion?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:12 PM (oKE6c)

339 so, how much did Palin sell out the entire family for?



hope it was for more than her vegas couture street walker ensemble.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 03, 2016 04:12 PM (vb33c)

340 332 This is all very interesting, but we can't mention this because it would upset the moderates, sending them straight to national or soviet socialism.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (EjBTO)

Shut up! They'll hear you! And flee to the safety of national or soviet socialism!

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 04:13 PM (xuouz)

341 I go away for a few days, and when I return, everything is still SNAFU

it's kind of comforting

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:13 PM (31DWQ)

342 "Government shutdown? Cutting off funding? The cities will be forced to lay off firefighters and police. The schools will have to lay off teachers. The park system will have to barricade parks and monuments."

But notice there's always enough money to write welfare checks, load EBT cards, buy people Obamaphones, send billions to Iran and Palestine, and still have enough left over to fund a tropical golf vacation.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 03, 2016 04:13 PM (iIzG7)

343 Do you have a flying horse? It's not a real religion until you have a flying horse.
Posted by: Mohammed, peace be upon me at February 03, 2016 04:10 PM (hvf9s)


Does Twilight Sparkle fly?

I think my religion would include bourbon and pretty shoes...

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:13 PM (lIU4e)

344 The Washington based GOP are perfectly content to play the same role as the Washington Generals.

Indeed, the Republican Party is the Washington Generals of politics.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:13 PM (39g3+)

345 how about the fact that the Koran is, in a word, boring

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (31DWQ)

346 That, and, mcconnel and ryan are apparently dnc sleeper agents.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 03, 2016 04:12 PM (EjBTO)

The DNC must have some incredibly damning pictures or videos of key GOP "leaders"!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (wYnyS)

347 THE KORAN IS BORING

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (31DWQ)

348 Do you have a flying horse? It's not a real religion until you have a flying horse.

Posted by: Mohammed, peace be upon me at February 03, 2016 04:10 PM (hvf9s)


What about the silver labia?
Oh. My bad.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (oKE6c)

349 CharlieBrown'sDildo: "I had the unfortunate opportunity to listen to Michael Medved yesterday and today."

See, here's the thing about that, too. Don't ever pay attention to Medved when his yap opens. He's either lying or wrong so it's also a waste of time.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (1CroS)

350 Cicero (@cicero): "Mohammed just co-opted a cast of characters from Christianity and Judaism and constructed his own theology around them."

Bully for Mohammed.
Posted by: LRonH at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (1CroS)


Mohammed worked in Hollywood? Who knew?

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (s5o+q)

351 US Justice Department officials admitted before the House Subcommittee on National Security on Tuesday that President Barack Obama's administration has not prosecuted a single Palestinian terrorist who murdered US citizens in Israel and elsewhere.



http://tinyurl.com/zgvc3hk

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (fWAjv)

352 Is it true Bernie camp found more votes in Iowa and now he is only .1% behind? DDHQ still has the original vote tally.

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (hvf9s)

353 I highly recommend the Scientology documentary, Going Clear, to anyone who hasn't seen it. It's not even a good scam and yet thousand and thousand of people willing go into this cult.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (/tuJf)

354 I listen to Dennis Prager and at 2:58pm quickly change the channel to a local talk radio host. I could get Phil Valentine but haven't listened to him in a long while. The very local radio channel covers Dana Loesch before who I do flip to.

Posted by: Skip at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (hk3Fb)

355 The funniest thing the past couple of years in politics was Rubio's bold declaration to fight for religious liberty after the gay marriage decision. That's very comforting coming from a bunch of losers.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 03, 2016 04:10 PM (LXJ1e)

We will fight hard on this battlefield we retreated from as soon as there's no chance of us winning.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (xuouz)

356 In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
[1.1] All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
[1.2] The Beneficent, the Merciful.
[1.3] Master of the Day of Judgment....

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (31DWQ)

357 345 how about the fact that the Koran is, in a word, boring
Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (31DWQ)




I tried to read it, but it reads like a cross between Nostradamus quatrains and a transcription of a Berkeley street person's ravings. It's unreadable.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (oKE6c)

358 "vegas couture streetwalker ensemble"...... do you mind if I borrow that phrase?. Have a person in mind to mock with it.

Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (sdxPm)

359 >>>Whereas Scientology is a Hubbardic religion?<<<

Sleeper Volcanic

Posted by: Fritz at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (BngQR)

360 Attention Humanitarians, are you fearful of a government shutdown? Afraid your program might be discontinued and your position eliminated due to budget cut backs?

We have openings for dedicated people who wish to help desperate people fleeing war, famine, and economic deprivation and are only asking for a chance at a better life. And the best thing is, you don't even have to leave your community. We will bring those desperate refugees to you. All you need do is help them settle in to your own community. Put your humanitarian skills to work, and earn a living wage while serving your fellow man.

Submit your resume to UNHCR. Address in the nic.

Have no fear, do good, and you will be rewarded.

Posted by: UNHCR at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (wAhX6)

361 jay, silver labia is old tech

new tech is robotic labia

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (31DWQ)

362 JackStraw - was that a documentary that was on HBO?

Posted by: Skip at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (hk3Fb)

363 334 I cannot work out why Jeb hasn't dropped out yet. He's so dead in the water some Oregonians are working on how to dynamite him.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at
------------
Ha! Have you seen the video of him telling his base "please clap?"
(WZ)

Posted by: Chi at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (ENe42)

364
What is Islam?


Islam is-

you know when it's really cold and you get that little piece of skin sticking out at the corner edge of your fingernail-

and you think it's a hangnail but it's not real a hangnail,

so you bite it off.


That's Islam.
















Oh, and socialism too.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (0cMkb)

365 "It alleges an Abrahamic connection."

And I'll allege that if Abraham had just kept it in his pants -- er, robe, or whatever he wore -- and not boinked his wife's servant, we would have to be dealing with a lot of this $h!t today.

Posted by: Qoheleth at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (iIzG7)

366
It's not the God of Abraham or Jesus' Dad. Not by a long shot.

===

Buddhists [and maybe Hindus] would say Allah is a regionally-based small-g god originating from the Kaaba, akin to a river god, that must be propitiated in order to prevent catastrophe like boats capsizing and such. They think they're Big Deals but are really small fry.

They need to be released from the cycle of rebirth the same as anybody else but they're probably more trapped than most. Pitiable creatures from that point of view. Freeing them either requires killing them off - which typically just shuffles things around - or conversion, which requires letting go.

They'd also say that, as a spiritual being within the wheel of karma, Allah would also have a lesson to teach about renunciation. His followers are not learning that since they are slaves, however.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hands at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (3ZtZW)

367 >>JackStraw - was that a documentary that was on HBO

Yes.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (/tuJf)

368 islam is the hockey / roller derby of religions.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (vb33c)

369 "99 A lady working with a friend's wife wanted ideas for something inexpensive to get her husband and the ladies in the office recommended a coupon book with "Make a Sandwich", "One Back Rub" and stuff like that. She thought it was a great idea and showed them the coupons later. They were all "dirty". "

Looking forward to double coupon day!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (XMXUK)

370 It's not even a good scam and yet thousand and thousand of people willing go into this cult.

To be fair, it attracts a lot of idiotic acting types, and some at least do it as a sort of club thing, to gain contacts and be part of the same deal as people who can get them jobs.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (39g3+)

371 334 I cannot work out why Jeb hasn't dropped out yet. He's so dead in the water some Oregonians are working on how to dynamite him.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:11 PM (39g3+)

------------

He's going to see it through to Florida. He's probably praying for lightning bolt for Trump and SMOD's little sister for Rubio.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (LXJ1e)

372 >>> I think my religion would include bourbon and pretty shoes...
Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:13 PM (lIU4e)

I read somewhere once that a true test of a major religion is they all require the banning of certain "unclean" foods. So you need to pick something to ban as well.

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (hvf9s)

373 356- when I taught in Saudi, the brother of one of my students left school to go home and memorize the Koran. Apparently the Saudi government would subsidize families who had a son do this-no daughters, mind you.

They had to go to a special madrassa for memorizing the Koran, which consisted of old men yelling at them, and beatings, according to my student. He decided it was better to stay in school.

Posted by: Moki at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (7q2ch)

374 Is it true Bernie camp found more votes in Iowa and now he is only .1% behind? DDHQ still has the original vote tally.




Did they ever find those 90 precincts that were lost/stolen?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (kca06)

375 bigby

true dat, "Allah" would be regarded as an evil demiurge

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (31DWQ)

376 353 I highly recommend the Scientology documentary, Going Clear, to anyone who hasn't seen it. It's not even a good scam and yet thousand and thousand of people willing go into this cult.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 04:14 PM (/tuJf)




Back in college I was waiting for a friend and wandered into a Scientology mosque, or whatever they call them. The imam wanted me to see if I were "clear," and handed me two tin cans connected to a meter.

"See," he said, looking at the reading. "You're not clear." And for a few thousand bucks, he could help me get clear.


Now as a STEM student, I knew an ohm meter when I saw one, so I licked my fingers, grabbed the cans again, and voila! I was clear!


"Guess I just saved myself a couple grand, eh?" I said, as they hustled me out the door.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:18 PM (oKE6c)

377 "vegas couture streetwalker ensemble"...... do you mind if I borrow that phrase?. Have a person in mind to mock with it.
Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 04:15 PM (sdxPm)

well, it is an original Y5, not to be confused with YSL. Some attribution would be nice but I entirely understand how you would not want to admit association.


anyway, sure, insult away.

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 03, 2016 04:19 PM (vb33c)

378 I like to think of "Abrahamic" when applied to Islam as actually damning it with faint praise

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:19 PM (31DWQ)

379 Oh, and socialism too.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (0cMkb)


Didn't you just . . .

and then . . .

and then again . . .

. . .

Oooooohhhhh......

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:19 PM (s5o+q)

380 I read somewhere once that a true test of a
major religion is they all require the banning of certain "unclean"
foods. So you need to pick something to ban as well.

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (hvf9s)

Tofu, and all organic foods. Unclean.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:19 PM (oKE6c)

381 >>> "Guess I just saved myself a couple grand, eh?" I said, as they hustled me out the door.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:18 PM (oKE6c)

Heh.

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (hvf9s)

382 So you need to pick something to ban as well.
Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:17 PM (hvf9s)


Oh! Huh. I don't know if I hate anything enough to ban it...Gin?

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (lIU4e)

383 On the food thread Sunday pointed out Islam says to beat your wife if she doesn't put out, kill your unmarried daughter if she does.

Posted by: Skip at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (hk3Fb)

384 Government oversight officials informed Congress on Wednesday that the Transportation Security Administration continues to operate in disarray, failing to record basic security details for thousands of employees and not tracking official IDs and badges that allow access to the most sensitive areas of an airport.

Lawmakers described the security agency as operating in chaos and expressed frustration with Obama administration officials as they informed the House Oversight Committee about a range of security shortfalls that continue to endanger the nations 450 commercial airports.

TSAs inability to properly screen and track employees has been well documented for years. However, the administration has failed to enact multiple reforms aimed at tightening security and making it more efficient, lawmakers said.

TSA still cannot verify their employees criminal histories and immigration statuses, according to disclosures made by the Department of Homeland Security inspector general.

But But But the Gov will be able to verify all them muslims from Syria...oh wait no problem, islam is a religion of peace...never mind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (DUoqb)

385 I read somewhere once that a true test of a major religion is they all require the banning of certain "unclean" foods. So you need to pick something to ban as well.



Brussels Sprouts.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (kca06)

386 I read somewhere once that a true test of a major religion is they all require the banning of certain "unclean" foods

Nah, Christianity has no food restrictions, other than a general prohibition of gluttony. As religions go, Christianity is really not very restrictive at all.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (39g3+)

387 Tofu, and all organic foods. Unclean.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:19 PM (oKE6c)


Good One! All soybeans, maybe. and Canola oil.

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (lIU4e)

388 DHS created by HSA: November 2002

Okay, I'm clearly misremembering that. I know something like that happened at the time, but... what was I talking about again?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair, too old for this shit at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (2lndx)

389 368 islam is the hockey / roller derby of religions.
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (vb33c)




Islam is 7th century Kwanzaa, writ large.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (oKE6c)

390 margarine?

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (lIU4e)

391 hahah jay, they gave me a test and then brought me into a back room to see the results, which were abysmal natch, and the cute sciento chick who persuaded me off the street didn't think it was funny when I asked for her phone number so we could get a pizza after her "work"

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (31DWQ)

392 krakenism bans calamari.

Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (sdxPm)

393 Putting aside the obvious (terrorism), when their main man Mo is a rapist, murderer, bandit, slaver, misogynist etc., you gotta wonder about the fundamentals of the "religion". You would think so at least, eh. ?

Posted by: oddnot not liking these times at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (g1MTt)

394 Government oversight officials informed Congress on Wednesday that the Transportation Security Administration continues to operate in disarray, failing to record basic security details for thousands of employees and not tracking official IDs and badges that allow access to the most sensitive areas of an airport.

Lawmakers described the security agency as operating in chaos and expressed frustration with Obama administration officials as they informed the House Oversight Committee about a range of security shortfalls that continue to endanger the nations 450 commercial airports.

TSAs inability to properly screen and track employees has been well documented for years. However, the administration has failed to enact multiple reforms aimed at tightening security and making it more efficient, lawmakers said.

TSA still cannot verify their employees criminal histories and immigration statuses, according to disclosures made by the Department of Homeland Security inspector general.

But But But the Gov will be able to verify all them muslims from Syria...oh wait no problem, islam is a religion of peace...never mind
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (DUoqb)



feature, not a bug

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 03, 2016 04:22 PM (vb33c)

395 Islam is 7th century Kwanzaa, writ large.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (oKE6c)


Winner Of Thread.

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:22 PM (s5o+q)

396 365 "It alleges an Abrahamic connection."

And I'll allege that if Abraham had just kept it in his pants -- er, robe, or whatever he wore -- and not boinked his wife's servant, we would have to be dealing with a lot of this $h!t today.
Posted by: Qoheleth at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (iIzG7)

Impregnating the handmaiden was Sarah's idea, don't forget. Yet another stark example of why listening to your wife is a terrible idea.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 03, 2016 04:22 PM (kpqmD)

397 righto Chris, because Christianity wasn't born out of a nomadic tribe

nomads even today have very strict purity laws, look at the gypsies

Posted by: Feh at February 03, 2016 04:22 PM (31DWQ)

398 Islam is 7th century Kwanzaa, writ large.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:21 PM (oKE6c)


heh

Posted by: yankeefifth at February 03, 2016 04:22 PM (vb33c)

399 >>"Guess I just saved myself a couple grand, eh?" I said, as they hustled me out the door.

But what level Clear? According to the documentary there are many different levels of clear and each one only costs a few thousand to achieve. Complete scam.

My favorite part was the naval uniforms. L Ron bought himself a ship and installed some of his favorite high ranking members as officers on the ship complete with goofy naval uniforms.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 03, 2016 04:23 PM (/tuJf)

400 Nood, THE DONALD!!!!

Posted by: filbert at February 03, 2016 04:23 PM (s5o+q)

401 "Don't call my bluff"---ShitMidas

"OK"---scared shitweasel congress

Posted by: Every woman with a camera at Devils Tower, Wy at February 03, 2016 04:23 PM (kKHcp)

402 January Gun Sales Set Yet Another Record
Ninth monthly record in a row

And some people say Fredo can't move mountains?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 03, 2016 04:23 PM (DUoqb)

403 385 I read somewhere once that a true test of a major religion is they all require the banning of certain "unclean" foods. So you need to pick something to ban as well.



Brussels Sprouts.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 03, 2016 04:20 PM (kca06)

Asparagus. Kale. Beets. Especially beets.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 03, 2016 04:24 PM (kpqmD)

404 I had a girl on my floor freshman year who dropped out to join the scientology place. Or something.

Posted by: Lea at February 03, 2016 04:24 PM (lIU4e)

405
Impregnating the handmaiden was Sarah's idea, don't forget.


Look, he kept going on, and on, and on, and on about this promised son and I just wanted to shut him up. Plus, Hagar was always saying she fancied Abram.

Posted by: Sarai at February 03, 2016 04:24 PM (39g3+)

406 Christianity bans porn, alas, but allows you to clog your arteries and raise blood sugar however you wish. Doesn't play too well in some demographics....

Posted by: kraken at February 03, 2016 04:24 PM (sdxPm)

407 Nah, Christianity has no food restrictions, other than a general prohibition of gluttony. As religions go, Christianity is really not very restrictive at all.

===

Mainstream protestantism, no. Catholics have fasts and certain fringier protestant sects have full bans.

Posted by: Bigby's Fapping Hands at February 03, 2016 04:24 PM (3ZtZW)

408 "islam is the hockey / roller derby of religions"


Don't you think that's being a bit harsh on roller derbies...?

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 03, 2016 04:25 PM (LA7Cm)

409 Yet another stark example of why listening to your wife is a terrible idea.

O.K....If you ever remarry just don't follow your wife's advice to boink the servant maiden. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (w4NZ8)

410 368 islam is the hockey / roller derby of religions.
Posted by: yankeefifth at February 03, 2016 04:16 PM (vb33c)

islam is the public execution of religions.

Actually it's just a series of public executions.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (xuouz)

411 "I read somewhere once that a true test of a major religion is they all require the banning of certain "unclean" foods. So you need to pick something to ban as well."

Coconut.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (XMXUK)

412 yankeefifth: "islam is the hockey / roller derby of religions."

Or the Houston vs. New York Rules version of Rollerball.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (1CroS)

413 Book I'm reading in Germany at least during the war Brussel sprouts are called rosenkrol or rose cabbages

Posted by: Skip at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (hk3Fb)

414 >>> O.K....If you ever remarry just don't follow your wife's advice to boink the servant maiden. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (w4NZ

It's a trap...

Posted by: LizLem at February 03, 2016 04:27 PM (hvf9s)

415 O.K....If you ever remarry just don't follow your wife's advice to boink the servant maiden. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (w4NZ


NOW he tells me.

Posted by: Arnold Schwarzenegger at February 03, 2016 04:28 PM (oKE6c)

416 On the subject of government health care, has any one else seen "The Man in the High Castle"?


There is a part where a doctor tells a father that his son has a "class A congenital disease", the clear implication being that there is no cure or even any resources wasted on looking for a cure and the only treatment is a lethal injection.


Coming soon to a clinic near you.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at February 03, 2016 04:29 PM (MpvuV)

417 "Honey...honey I want another child. But we've been trying and trying and..."
"...and?"
"And I want you to stranglefuck my handmaiden."
"What? No."
"I want you to use and abuse her, then fill up her tank and top it off."
"What the fuck, NO."
"I want a kid Abe. Now get in there and get pumping."
"Fuck this."
*A exits stage left*

There's no reason the Bible can't be made to appeal to a modern American audience.

Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 04:30 PM (xuouz)

418 wow, the shit sandwich that obie was serving to the muslims today. You'd think even they would be puking. "Like dude, sorry, we're evil. you shouldn't kiss our ass this much. We have standards."

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 03, 2016 04:30 PM (EjBTO)

419 Nevergiveup: "January Gun Sales Set Yet Another Record
Ninth monthly record in a row"


Yeah, been thinking pretty seriously about buying something to lose in a canoing accident for the past six months. Let's just say economic market forces are not making them easier to acquire.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 03, 2016 04:30 PM (1CroS)

420 411 "I read somewhere once that a true test of a major religion is they all require the banning of certain "unclean" foods. So you need to pick something to ban as well."

Coconut.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 03, 2016 04:26 PM (XMXUK)

You shut your whore mouth!

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at February 03, 2016 04:31 PM (kpqmD)

421 There's no reason the Bible can't be made to appeal to a modern American audience.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 03, 2016 04:30 PM (xuouz)




The King Barack edition?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 03, 2016 04:31 PM (oKE6c)

422 There's no reason the Bible can't be made to appeal to a modern American audience.
***
I am amuse.

modern USA being somali pirates and saudi rapefugees.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at February 03, 2016 04:33 PM (EjBTO)

423 If I made up a religion called 'Leaism', with some fake Abraham/moses stories to go with it and said I heard it from Gabriel would that count as an 'abrahamic' religion?

Why would you claim Gabe Malor told you to start a religion?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 03, 2016 04:36 PM (9krrF)

424 Jay Guevara @ 389 islam is kwanzza.
Man you done say de truth rat dere! Sho did.

Posted by: Eromero at February 03, 2016 04:38 PM (zLDYs)

425 Wait until the middle class does their taxes this year and sees the horror of the Obamacare penalty.

Posted by: Buffalbob at February 03, 2016 04:55 PM (8nL8o)

426 So Obozo and his cronies are lying weasels? In other news, water is wet.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at February 03, 2016 05:02 PM (Sda6L)

427 The Obama Administration claimed it would, because they were trying to scare people to just give into them. (It worked.)

Which is, yet, another clearly impeachable offense - as I noted back when this was going on (each time). And then the douchebag Vichy GOP turds had to take Barky's un-Constitutional lie and run with it, themselves ... the fuckers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 03, 2016 05:21 PM (zc3Db)

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