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4th Quarter Growth Rate Falls to 0.7 Percent
Must have been the unexpectedly mild early winter.
The U.S. economy's growth slowed sharply in the final three months of 2015 to a 0.7 percent annual rate. Consumers slowed spending, businesses cut back on investment and global problems trimmed exports. The slowdown could renew doubts about the durability of the 6˝-year-old economic expansion, though most economists expect growth to rebound in the current January-March quarter. Obviously the question is whether this is the crash landing signalling a new recession (which itself would be confirmation that we've just been scootching along in a Depression) or if we return to the anemic less-than-inflation-plus-population-growth we've so long enjoyed under Obama.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: HH at January 29, 2016 12:39 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:39 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 12:39 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Lauren at January 29, 2016 12:40 PM (0C2f1)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 12:40 PM (xuouz)
Because as we learned last night at the debate, they're like us, only better.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:40 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Dr Gorgonzola at January 29, 2016 12:41 PM (BeQwJ)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:41 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 29, 2016 12:41 PM (F2rZx)
Like a dog with worms.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:42 PM (qCMvj)
Trans-species love...the new frontier.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 12:42 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:42 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Dr Gorgonzola at January 29, 2016 12:42 PM (BeQwJ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (Zu3d9)
to
Morning Café Thread
to
Open Thread
Is this thread just on the dwindling economy or do we take our OT's to Open, Café, or Morning?
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:42 PM (qCMvj)
But less energetically. More like a slow-motion wormy pup.
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (43OZ6)
Can't wait for Recovery Summer VII
Posted by: wth at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (HgMAr)
And, btw, that breast cream ad is pretty strange. Why are her breasts growing in that outward bouncing motion?
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (Agn5J)
Trans-species love...the new frontier.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 12:42 PM (Zu3d9)
How could one say the same for you? How exactly would we word it...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (qCMvj)
That would be China, a net importer of oil, and Canada, which has a diversified economy.
I'm not sure that calls for a higher base price for oil aren't just an insidious plea to feed the Islamic crocodile with more Western cash for a few more years.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (Zu3d9)
So I'm guessing that the guys aren't getting shirts?
#twoweeks!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (SAhpk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (zLP1L)
Under Obama the Feds have been increasingluy falsifying the unemployment stats, progressively excluded anyone who has "stopped looking for work" or never looked for work or who is so "under-employed" as to not really count as having a job.
In reality, the US has a 42% unemployment rate, which is the worst in history (the worst rate during the Great Depression in the '30s was 25%), and indicates that we are indeed in a terrible depression, which no one will acknowledge.
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: bonhomme at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
_________
OK, I laughed.
Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (3GAnN)
So I type Cafe and I get a diamond. My head hurts.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (oiNtH)
Try for ampersands instead.
Posted by: kathysaysso at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (43OZ6)
Using Quantative Easing to inflate stock market (translation: print money to buy stocks for rich people). done.
Low Interest Rates (thereby making investments less lucrative, attractive). low as possible
welfare. Love that welfare cliff!
War (libs always say war is like an economic stimulant)? Have you been paying attention? There's tanks in every police station in the USA.
Nah, president Trump is going to have to do what USA did to get out of Great Depression 1.0...go Eisenhower on that ass and do free markets again.
Make America Free Again!
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (EjBTO)
Of course, if you look at the diet pill industry they are making bank on people who really don't want to eat less calories and exercise.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (oiNtH)
Like a dog with worms.
There goes the carpet.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (SAhpk)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
_________
OK, I laughed.
***
lol. this should be used more often. You do love science, don't you?
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (EjBTO)
But it would have to be something big.
Like on the order of Christmas.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (Zu3d9)
Because why?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (qCMvj)
***
oh, right. That too.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:47 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 29, 2016 12:47 PM (F2rZx)
Lower gas prices mean less dollars spent. Just something to consider.
Especially in winter, what is considered the "non-driving" season. I think demand for fuel is pretty inelastic, in that people need to get where they need to get, but don't just drive for the hell of it.
Diesel on the other hand, is a good barometer of trucking, if measured in gallons. That would be true?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 12:47 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2016 12:47 PM (btH0m)
But it would have to be something big.
Like on the order of Christmas.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (ptqRm)
The Elections.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:47 PM (qCMvj)
Nuke Japan?
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 12:47 PM (SAhpk)
Posted by: obnoxious ahole at January 29, 2016 12:47 PM (MpvuV)
***
That would violate the Logan Act
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:48 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 12:48 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (oiNtH)
Never ceases to amaze me that women think fat is afraid of money. No matter how much they throw at it, it never goes anywhere, yet they keep throwing. Reminds me of Democrats and poverty.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 29, 2016 12:48 PM (xWW96)
But it would have to be something big.
Like on the order of Christmas.
I know: Kwaanza!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 12:48 PM (SAhpk)
Nuke Japan?
***
kick the donks out of office, elect Ike.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:48 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 12:48 PM (3agSh)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 12:48 PM (RVlUM)
Posted by: Farmer Joe
It's been floating around since last year. Too weary to dig up a source at the moment.
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Farmer Joe at January 29, 2016 12:41 PM (F2rZx)
oooooo...stop listening to the vAstyEicHwIng CONSPIRACY!!!!!!eLeBiNtYreTHUGlicans.
Everything's ducky.....
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (zYV5P)
But it would have to be something big.
There was; I went on vacation.
You should be thanking me.
Posted by: JEF at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (l0lja)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (EjBTO)
OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR! Assumes facts not in evidence.
I too would doubt the durability of an economic expansion that doesn't exist.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 12:49 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:46 PM (qCMvj)
I'll make you a deal. I'll send you three reports from the three biggest firms' economists, and you read them.
But I am not responsible for your death from terminal boredom, nor am I responsible if your bullshit detector wears out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 12:43 PM (NeFrd)
I laughed too.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (JO9+V)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (2x3L+)
That's done for a while
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (RVlUM)
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/28/news/economy/donald-trump-unemployment-42-percent/
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Harry S Truman at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (jhqr1)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (3GAnN)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (btH0m)
2015 $16.41 Trillion...
During that time, the Fed Reserve, using Quantitative Easing (printing money and loaning it to other banks, to be paid back in real assets), accured $3.6 TRILLION on their balance sheet ($900 Billion, to $4.5 Trillion).
Sooo... total economy grew just at $2 Trillion.... Banks CREATED out of thin air $3.6 Trillion.
Math.... its a bitch...
we have been in a depressed economy for years.
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (l0lja)
***
fed's been doing that. It's amazing that inflationary shoe hasn't really dropped yet. Sure, gold doubled in price and oil skyrocketed until the world accidentally started pumping so much gas that price has tumbled.
What's scary is the fed printing $ to buy local bonds that go to pay for useless pub sector union thugs' retirements.
This shit can't last forever.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (Agn5J)
But I am not responsible for your death from terminal boredom, nor am I responsible if your bullshit detector wears out.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (Zu3d9)
Hey, I'll read them.
I'm reading the Big Fat book of Game Theory right now. I can handle it!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Barack Obama at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: zombie at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (iIzG7)
***
shhh, we can't let this get out during the debates against Hillary/Bernie.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (RVlUM)
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile
Agreed.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (QdAXQ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (LUgeY)
I may have to disable my AdBlockPlus, and see what the boobage looks like.
Cause, I ain't got no ads to look at.
None
Zip
Nada
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (ptqRm)
Posted by: President For Life Barack Obumblina at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Lauren
they always fake the numbers. these fake numbers will eventually be revised down on a Friday at 5:30PM.
Posted by: Hitlery at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (2x3L+)
He's pretty damn good most days.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (zLP1L)
***
something interesting happened with oil.
FIrst, it went up bc of inflationary pressure.
Then it's down.
because:
1. more production
2. something bad. Like China can no longer buy it?
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Zombie John Gotti at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (g4zfM)
ADBOTS FOR BOOBIES!
Posted by: MACHINES FOR SALE at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (3agSh)
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (l0lja)
Heard the ABC radio news at the top of the noon hour. They led with this story but basically said in a hilariously cheerful voice something to the effect of, "don't worry, economists say this is temporary and the country will resume its robust recovery in no time." They don't even try to cover up the bias.
Posted by: KGB at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (kROq3)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (2x3L+)
I agree.
I rarely listen (usually after a debate - I didn't watch debate), but of course, my doorbell keeps ringing, so I have to mute...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 29, 2016 12:52 PM (LUgeY)
Where we are at now is well below "the new normal" of '09.
Maybe they meant perpetually sinking.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (zLP1L)
***
oh, right. That too.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44
They also accepted anyone with a stubbed toe into SocSec permanent Disability. Not working and not looking.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (QdAXQ)
Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (3GAnN)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
_________
OK, I laughed.
Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (3GAnN)
Some of it is with Lois Lerners emails...
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Furious George
I'm getting ads for corned boob hash.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (QdAXQ)
113 In good news, I see VA is back to reciprocity on concealed carry. The one issue the Dems can't get traction on. How can the GOPe negotiate that position away?
Posted by: WOPR
Va. R's gave away absolutely nothing on this. The issue was a non-starter from the get-go. The spin was just that - spin. Nothing was given up in this "bipartisan compromise."
Violent people with active restraining orders can't get a CCP now? It was already illegal in Va to carry if you you have a RO...
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 12:55 PM (fSuK4)
Evidently, the thought of getting the economy going again has never occurred to those people.
We are being ruled over by economic imbeciles.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 29, 2016 12:55 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: President For Life Barack Obumblina at January 29, 2016 12:55 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (f7rv6)
I've got duct tape and an anchor in case she misses her e-mails.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:55 PM (zLP1L)
stats, progressively excluded anyone who has "stopped looking for work"
or never looked for work or who is so "under-employed" as to not really
count as having a job."
A/K/A, "Potemkim Economics."
I'm coining that as a new trendy phrase. Peyton Manning called to say, "Ahlikeit."
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:56 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 12:57 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 12:56 PM (iIzG7)
I coined it for the GOP. POP = Potemkin Opposition Party.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:57 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Grey Fox at January 29, 2016 12:57 PM (bZ7mE)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:53 PM (zLP1L)
----
JJ, probably true. I stopped listening to all talk radio for about 5 years because it makes me angry and upset when I have enough reason to look around me and be angry and upset. I haven't listened to him regularly in years. I only have him on so I can hear his thoughts on the debate. Which match mine!!
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 12:57 PM (2x3L+)
stats, progressively excluded anyone who has "stopped looking for work"
or never looked for work or who is so "under-employed" as to not really
count as having a job.
Which will all change if a Republican is in the WH...
Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:57 PM (/dSsq)
It's easy to claim success when you're pencil-whipping the numbers.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at January 29, 2016 12:58 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:58 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 12:44 PM (TxJGV)
Yeah, that's not how things work. That's not how any of this works.
Is it common to have such low growth during the holidays? That seems sort of a problem.
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 12:58 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 12:59 PM (482y1)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 12:59 PM (RVlUM)
Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:57 PM (/dSsq)
It'll change the opposite way, like it did under Dubya's early years and Reagan.
But you meant that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 12:59 PM (zLP1L)
No, but at least it will be our guy lying, instead of their guy lying.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 29, 2016 12:59 PM (ptqRm)
But you meant that.
Yup...
Posted by: donna at January 29, 2016 12:59 PM (/dSsq)
Like on the order of Christmas."
Brilliant. Let's add another one to the calendar.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 29, 2016 12:59 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:00 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
---------------
I tried watching a few minutes during commercial breaks last night. I last 90 seconds before I changed the channel.
My pet peve is that doorbell sound in commercials or debates. Drives the dog nuts.
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 01:00 PM (fSuK4)
The explanation ? Boosh !
It's so Soviet I just have no words.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 01:00 PM (Z8DIA)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:00 PM (zLP1L)
I called for less of it. Doubt if it made a dent, but it's nice to at least get the idea out there that there are alternatives.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Paul Ryan at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (Agn5J)
Uh....GDP is per year.
SO you would have to calculate the total increase, rather than the difference between 2008 and 2015 to make that comparison accurately.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Chi
_______
I'm guessing that your dogs may not mind the doorbell sound so much as what the GOPes were saying.
Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (3GAnN)
Violent people with active restraining orders can't get a CCP now? It was already illegal in Va to carry if you you have a RO...
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 12:55 PM (fSuK4)
I'm not saying they did. But if the GOPe could screw it up they would. That's what they do. That's all they do.
Posted by: WOPR at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (gQmg/)
Posted by: Naes at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (Ypc8j)
Posted by: Stay out da Bushes at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (rZJS9)
Then take off your shoes!
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:02 PM (3ZtZW)
Why, you ask? Because you will work. Hard.
I will make you a deal you cannot refuse. So you will work.
Posted by: Don Hillary Corleone, President-In-Waiting at January 29, 2016 01:02 PM (TxJGV)
Snow was late.
Temperatures moderate.
Even today, it's a beautiful sunny day. Winds calm, perfect for clearing a foot of snow out of the drive.
I should go do that.
Soon.
Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 01:02 PM (3agSh)
***
"you" being illegals and multi-national corporations. Because apparently, everything the liberals said about the GOP was true.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:02 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: ThunderB
Your attitudes are counter revolutionary. I denounce you!
Posted by: Leonardo di Lenin at January 29, 2016 01:03 PM (326rv)
***
"you" being illegals and multi-national corporations. Because apparently, everything the liberals said about the GOP was true.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:02 PM (EjBTO)
GOP - "We can't do what the voters want until we win the secretary generalship of the UN!!! Why can't you rubes understand that?!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:03 PM (zLP1L)
The WH kitchen must have a chef who specifically is employed to cook the books.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:04 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Sean Penn at January 29, 2016 01:04 PM (TxJGV)
GOP - "We can't do what the voters want until we win the secretary generalship of the UN!!! Why can't you rubes understand that?!"
===
Steiner will come.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:05 PM (3ZtZW)
The WH kitchen must have a chef who specifically is employed to cook the books.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:04 PM (oiNtH)
1- Lie
2 - Claim national security when queried for numbers
3 - Win
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:05 PM (zLP1L)
"Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual."
--Michelle Obama in 2008
Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 01:05 PM (3GAnN)
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (btH0m)
I didn't go out shopping this year. I was tired of raining blows down upon people going after the same dolls I was for my son George.
Posted by: Frank Costanza at January 29, 2016 01:05 PM (BDZWU)
As with global warming, gun control, health care, and basically everything, the Democrats are the Party of Gaslighting now.
Is it the Warmest Year Ever and the Best Economy Ever and The Worst Gun Violence Ever? Of course is it, and if you disagree you're nuts.
Posted by: TallDave at January 29, 2016 01:06 PM (74ZYB)
I'm certainly glad you have the resources to weather this shitty economy.
Not all of us do.
And, just for the record, I didn't vote for a goddamned bit of this. I expected the imbeciles I voted for to at least act in my interest, but they never have. In fact, they want even more foreigners to come in to take American jobs. Just look who proposed and is supporting increasing work visas.
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 29, 2016 01:06 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (oiNtH)
Yeah, we know....
Posted by: Boystown at January 29, 2016 01:06 PM (zYV5P)
***
oops, all the insane lefty judges we let obama nominate to the courts are blocking our policies. oh well.
What? Get our own judges? Sorry, McCain/Rubez have revived the gang of 8 to block extremist GOP judges. GOP judges would upset the moderates, driving them to full-bore socialism. sorry.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:06 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 01:00 PM (fSuK4)
Doorbell and cellphone rings.
Creepy new tactic.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 01:06 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: KGB at January 29, 2016 12:54 PM (kROq3)
Cluebat: if you're still talking 'recovery' 6-7 years down the road? There is no recovery.
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 01:06 PM (lIU4e)
***
"you" being illegals and multi-national corporations. Because apparently, everything the liberals said about the GOP was true.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:02 PM (EjBTO)
GOP - "We can't do what the voters want until we win the secretary generalship of the UN!!! Why can't you rubes understand that?!"
The best way to get me to not outright hate Trump would be to convince me that he's the guy the GOP wants.
As long as there's a chance he's a big 'ole F you to them, I'm willing to tolerate the clown.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 01:06 PM (326rv)
SO you would have to calculate the total increase, rather than the difference between 2008 and 2015 to make that comparison accurately.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (Zu3d9)
Uh.... no... I didn't post percentages... I posted raw numbers in inflation adjusted dollars...
So in inflation adjusted dollars it increased LESS than what the Fed Reserved created out of thin air, over an 8 year period.
And THAT is the point... the real economy has been sucking... but they have used slight of hand to make it APPEAR that we were growing...
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Mitch The Turtle at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (Agn5J)
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (iQIUe)
**
you wingnutz need to learn to love science anyway.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (EjBTO)
136 The fake numbers game is the same with illegal immigration. I keep
reading claims that under Obama, deportations are WAY UP!!!
The WH kitchen must have a chef who specifically is employed to cook the books.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:04 PM (oiNtH)
1- Lie
2 - Claim national security when queried for numbers
3 - Win
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:05 PM (zLP1L)
The administration started counting "border returns" (apprehensions and expulsions within 50 miles of the border) as "deportations," which had not been done before.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (5f5bM)
Cheri, I am so stealing that line. Where do you want the royalty checks sent?
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (iIzG7)
Radical open borders people call Obama the deporter in chief. Juan Williams keeps repeating the "deportations are up" claim. I believe they have redefined yet another term.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 01:08 PM (FkBIv)
At least, if scientists' estimates are accurate, should happen for the northern half of the globe.
People expect too much of this Administration, to anticipate these changes in temperature that seem to be occurring continuously, on an annual basis.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:08 PM (TOk1P)
The WH kitchen must have a chef who specifically is employed to cook the books.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:04 PM (oiNtH)
The fake number that irritates me is the 11 million figure.
It was 11 million in 2000, 11 million in 2006, and it's 11 million now.
So, we're to believe that none of those illegals here for lo those many years haven't had children?
We're to believe that with the porous border causing a wave of immigrants the past seven years, all adds up to no net gain.
Bull.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:08 PM (kKHcp)
I'm going with that. It's just simpler. Half the country is nutz and you can't fix nutz.
Just don't talk to the crazy people. That's what I say.
Posted by: Willburn Sooner at January 29, 2016 01:08 PM (3agSh)
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Personal experiences of people on this forum alone give credence to this number. This administration has corrupted everything.
Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 01:08 PM (482y1)
131 "Do NOT "force" things like removing the nipples.
Or breech plugs.
They're probably thread-siezed if they weren't removed after the last black powder session."
If you find seized-up parts, let me recommend "Kroil" penetrating oil - www.kanolabs.com - nothing I've ever used seems to work as well. Oddly, it is hard to find at retail so I buy it from the manufacturer every few years. In severe cases (like a water-well head I took apart a few years ago) apply it daily until the wrench finally does its work.
I don't think you want to do the heat-up-and-quench-with-penetrating-oil thing on old firearms, so just be patient and persistent.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 01:09 PM (Z8DIA)
I say to America: Do not concern yourselves! More government will solve this government created problem! And toilet paper will soon be delivered to all grocery stores too!
Posted by: President Hugo Obama at January 29, 2016 01:09 PM (TxJGV)
"Pres Obama to meet next Tuesday with @SpeakerRyan and @SenateMajLdr to discuss legislative priorities and cooperation."
we are so fucking schlonged.
some of us cwazy wingnut cons warned GOP about speaker ryan.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:09 PM (EjBTO)
Radical open borders people call Obama the deporter in chief. Juan Williams keeps repeating the "deportations are up" claim. I believe they have redefined yet another term.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 01:08 PM (FkBIv)
Its been known for a couple years that they changed what qualified as a deportation.
Posted by: buzzion at January 29, 2016 01:11 PM (zt+N6)
Bill Engvall must be running out of signs to hand out.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 01:11 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Decaf at January 29, 2016 01:11 PM (482y1)
Posted by: Shit Lovecraft said at January 29, 2016 01:11 PM (b99VK)
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They mean people leaving for Red States.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:11 PM (3ZtZW)
we are so fucking schlonged.
some of us cwazy wingnut cons warned GOP about speaker ryan.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:09 PM (EjBTO)
yep, this is a set up from both sides
elections can't come soon enough
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 01:11 PM (qCMvj)
So in inflation adjusted dollars it increased LESS than what the Fed Reserved created out of thin air, over an 8 year period.
And THAT is the point... the real economy has been sucking... but
they have used slight of hand to make it APPEAR that we were growing...
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (f7rv6)
Don, the point is that GDP is a flow variable, like your annual income, and the Fed balance sheet is a stock variable, like your savings account balance. If you took a snapshot of the change in your savings account balance between Dec. 31, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2015, and compared it to what you earned in 2008 and 2015, and tried to say one had something to do with the other, then you would be missing what happened in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and 2013. That's what CBD is trying to say.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (5f5bM)
It was 11 million in 2000, 11 million in 2006, and it's 11 million now.
So, we're to believe that none of those illegals here for lo those many years haven't had children?
We're to believe that with the porous border causing a wave of immigrants the past seven years, all adds up to no net gain.
Bull.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:08 PM (kKHcp)
Yep.... the Feds copped to 500,000 Visa overstays LAST YEAR...
That's not even the guys who come across the border illegally...
Yet the number of illegals is staying the same???
/facepalm
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (f7rv6)
The WH kitchen must have a chef who specifically is employed to cook the books.-----Cheri
Just saw where the former White House chef wrote a book on environmentally friendly (anti-global warming)cooking.
Posted by: Tilikum Cruel Assault Whale at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (qCMvj)
drugs are now in short supply in America, and surgeons are having to
ration use some anesthesia drugs. This shortage is extensive and even
includes some common pediatric chemotherapy drugs.
I say to America: Do not concern yourselves! More government will
solve this government created problem! And toilet paper will soon be
delivered to all grocery stores too!
Posted by: President Hugo Obama at January 29, 2016 01:09 PM (TxJGV)
That's a real head-scratcher, there. It's almost as if, when you fundamentally change the way health care is paid for and delivered, and launch a sustained campaign of undermining the profits of drug companies... will somehow, some way lead to a ...shortage of medication???
Yeah, it just doesn't make sense!
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:13 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Qoheleth
Just put them in the HQ Valu-Rite fund for when the burning times come!
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:13 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Grimaldi at January 29, 2016 01:13 PM (CVhPs)
Posted by: pointsnfigures at January 29, 2016 01:13 PM (hSpC/)
Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (rwI+c)
In so many ways.
Posted by: The Chicken at January 29, 2016 01:13 PM (vgIRn)
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Issa, hmm?
/hits snooze button
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (3ZtZW)
That's why I said the collective "we." And WE did fail. WE let the leftists take over the courts, the schools, the bureaucracy, the media and even many of the churches. WE failed to convince our neighbors that there's no such thing as a free lunch. Frankly, WE failed to crank out enough children to keep pace. The hour is late. The Republic either needs to split or die entirely.
Posted by: Naes at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (Ypc8j)
"Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual."
--Michelle Obama in 2008
Posted by: Furious George at January 29, 2016 01:05 PM (3GAnN) "
Gave me a cold chill, that did.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (Z8DIA)
Posted by: Tommy V at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (SRQwr)
"I think he's in a position where he's being forced to triple-time make a case of what would otherwise be, what they call, a slam dunk," Issa said, referring to FBI Director James Comey, who previously told the Senate Judiciary Committee he would conduct a "competent," "honest" and "independent" probe into Clinton's handling of classified information during her tenure as secretary of state.
no kidding
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (RD7QR)
OneEye, unfortunately, the children are legal if they had them here. Anchor babies are an excuse for DAPA work permits, if that had not been halted by the federal courts (and the Supremes will make a final decision on that this summer).
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: Achmed Muhammad Muhammed at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (39g3+)
They were busy talking to me.
Posted by: Rent-an-Asshole at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (326rv)
Oh noes! No doubts about our super duper robust never been better economy. The economists who expect growth to rebound are the same ones who find every bad bit of economic news unexpected
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:07 PM (3ZtZW)
________
This ^^^
My nightmares for all of us are all the poison pills just waiting for the next occupant of the White House.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (BtG7l)
Which is why I never posted the % of the GDP growth... because of that very issue...
I posted total numbers.
So your argument seems to be that over an 8 year span.... even though we LOST a couple of Trillion dollars.... because of some fudged % from a Government who has a vested interest in fooling us...
That the economy is NOT sucking?
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Tilikum Cruel Assault Whale
Like cooking your food on hot rocks? I suppose that this "Chef" used all of those techniques on the elaborate parties they threw with Jay-Z and Beyoncé. My ass.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: $15 Minimum Wage at January 29, 2016 01:16 PM (m2bLi)
Well, that's just the sort thing a racist like you would say, isn't it?
Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2016 01:16 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2016 01:16 PM (Ot/7Z)
time to go shovel more snow, get some fresh air
if Hillary is forced to drop from the race... what on earth will happen
I shall go and contemplate.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 01:17 PM (qCMvj)
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Makes me think of a mall guard. "You kids take your hands out of your pockets!"
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:17 PM (3ZtZW)
You are comparing the marginal increase in the money supply (printing money) with the increase in a yearly calculation of the total value of goods and services produced by the country. Those aren't comparable numbers. They are correlated.
Are you suggesting that the Fed's pumping up the money supply inflated the GDP numbers? Yup. I agree. Of course that is true.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 01:17 PM (Zu3d9)
My SWAG estimate for where we now stand is 30 million. No data, no nothing, just a SWAG.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 01:17 PM (Z8DIA)
Because if it's not the corrected, then the real rate is negative.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 01:18 PM (mf5HN)
Barry now wants companies to report what the pay employees by gender. I think go fck yourself would be a good response.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 01:18 PM (493sH)
Posted by: $15 Minimum Wage"
Truth be told, the minimum wage in America is $0.00 per hour. Ask anyone who's lost a job in this economy and can't find a new one.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 01:18 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 01:12 PM (qCMvj)
Did he really say it that way, with Hooma's name first? Is he a coward, or just not bright enough to understand nobody gives a damn about Hooma, EXCEPT as a means to get to Hillory?
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:18 PM (TOk1P)
That said
ACE is not working for big Pharma and they are not beholding to Jug ears...
Posted by: Wild Irish Rose With a Skirt at January 29, 2016 01:19 PM (MlKiL)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:14 PM (5f5bM)
I was under the impression that anchor baby citizenship hasn't been constitutionally codified, that we pretty much just allow it.
There was a pretty good back and forth here just a few weeks ago about that very thing. Nobody has challenged the citizenship because, RACism or something.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:19 PM (kKHcp)
And don't forget that 100% of all jobs "created" under Obama have gone to immigrants--legal and illegal.
The only jobs Americans are getting are when someone is fired, quits or resigns--not new jobs. (Of course, under Obama, that counts as both a job created and a job saved.)
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 29, 2016 01:19 PM (fQ/0p)
Bull.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
I would believe the 11 million number if they were referring to California and AZ alone.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Venezuela at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (8ZskC)
I don't think anyone with more than two functioning synapses would argue against your overall point.
I am merely suggesting that your comparison is not valid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Naes at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (Ypc8j)
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WTF does it matter? If Issa is involved it means NOTHING WILL HAPPEN
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (3ZtZW)
Or give them totally worthless but politically correct numbers:
Transexual males identifying as women
Transexual females identifying as men
Etc.
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (fbovC)
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Makes me think of a mall guard. "You kids take your hands out of your pockets!"
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes
Heh.
I was referring to the bernie activist that someone thought would be the bestest thing to have at a stupid party debate.
Because there's so much WIN involved.
Posted by: Rent-an-Asshole at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (326rv)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:18 PM (TOk1P)
Actual (Washington Examiner) headline reads:
Former House Oversight chairman: 'FBI director would like to indict Clinton and Abedin'
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (DofIg)
span.... even though we LOST a couple of Trillion dollars.... because of
some fudged % from a Government who has a vested interest in fooling
us...
That the economy is NOT sucking?
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:15 PM (f7rv6)
Oh, no, I'm with you. The economy definitely sucks. But all of that 2 trillion dollars of debt didn't get added to the economy (if that's where it went) all in 2015. Part was added in 2009, part in 2010, part in 2011, part in 2012, part in 2013, and part in 2014 as well. You can't just look at only 2015. BTW -- my big beef with the GDP numbers is that they include government spending as a "product," which is misleading to say the least.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (5f5bM)
or as they say on the podcast - the Federal Bureau of Reaching Out
Posted by: McCool at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (TQxRy)
But the financial shenanigans have been extreme, and put us in uncharted territory. As with Obamacare, they are running up a tab and trying to delay a collapse till post Hillary selection/election.
We have taken a big turn (after decades of veering left) toward socialism by using so much government power to control so much of spending. We run up debt in making promises for retirement and yet want to bring in another 50 million illegals (over a few years, chain migration) which are at the low economic end (or criminal), and not all young. Yet Cruz recently wanted 5X the H-1b replacement workers, and stated a year ago "there is no bigger friend to legal immigration than me".
We can't do that ... we have to retrench and make "hard choices" or surrender the country to a socialist hell. The US has better credit, but ALL that good will and credit is being used, and a third mortgage is being taken out on traditional American savers and their children.
Trump is the anti-DCist. He knows the game and will throw their furniture out the window from the inside (per the Tucker article).
Posted by: Illiniwek at January 29, 2016 01:21 PM (5Gpe2)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD
Is that like gravity efficient?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 01:21 PM (1xUj/)
Well, that's just the sort thing a racist like you would say, isn't it?
Posted by: blaster at January 29, 2016 01:16 PM (2Ocf1)
If we had a REAL man in the White House, I bet it would be 1.0%
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:21 PM (TOk1P)
WRONG. About 14 new positions were created in San Bernardino a few months ago and nobody got fired.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 01:21 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Naes at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (Ypc8j)
According to the official Social Security Administration letter I got in November, inflation is indeed nonexistent.
Wife and I can now party hearty!
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:22 PM (DofIg)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 01:23 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 01:23 PM (RVlUM)
Annnddddd...
Money created by the Fed Res, is loaned to banks... who then use it.
IT COUNTS towards the GDP. It directly adds to it, even though no real wealth (things, services, whatever) is created.
Thus distorting the use of GDP as a reliable measure of the economy.
Because the GDP is measure of the flow of money.
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:23 PM (f7rv6)
And people say that New Yorkers are morbid for reading the obituaries, hoping to find a vacant, rent-controlled apartment.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 29, 2016 01:23 PM (iIzG7)
first? Is he a coward, or just not bright enough to understand nobody
gives a damn about Hooma, EXCEPT as a means to get to Hillory?
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WTF does it matter? If Issa is involved it means NOTHING WILL HAPPEN
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (3ZtZW)
I'm just interested in the particular weasel words being used. I find it interesting, and regardless of how it is said, I don't believe for a second that this is leading up to arrests.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (hLRSq)
That's actually huge.
===
Well, OK.
He'll hold the edge of the rug up, somebody else will get the broom.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (1BQGO)
Wife and I can now party hearty!
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:22 PM (DofIg)
Da comrade, and wheat crop was never better. All thanks to Comrade Barry's glorious 5 year plan
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (493sH)
In real, unfudged (pre-2013) terms, the announced GDP should be about
-2.5%. I suspect when revised numbers are announced next month, even the
fudged figure will be negative (likely between -.3% and -1%).
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:25 PM (OrI3J)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 01:25 PM (RVlUM)
the secretary generalship of the UN!!! Why can't you rubes understand
that?!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:03 PM
Don't give them ideas.
Even if they had every branch of government, I believe that the GOP would do everything possible to make the Democrats goals happen, because "fairness."
And by "fairness" I mean "we pass your policies and you invite us to your parties."
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at January 29, 2016 01:26 PM (gisJf)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 01:24 PM (493sH)
I'll probably get a Trump-O-Gram in a couple years telling me how glorious and yuge my joy is, too.
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:26 PM (DofIg)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 29, 2016 01:26 PM (rwI+c)
In real, unfudged (pre-2013) terms, the announced GDP should be about -2.5%. I suspect when revised numbers are announced next month, even the fudged figure will be negative (likely between -.3% and -1%).
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:25 PM (OrI3J)
Barry: All this talk about fudging has got me all excited. Oh Reggie! It's packing time!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 29, 2016 01:26 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (BtG7l)
Oh, so just like global warming. Except no change over time is the model, and that just happens to be the output.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (kKHcp)
DNC get elected, go full hard core commie, open the borders. Sue us if you don't like it.
GOP? ummm, er, gosh we might scare the moderates if we do what we were elected by the moderates to do.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (EjBTO)
Former House Oversight chairman: 'FBI director would like to indict Clinton and Abedin'
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:20 PM (DofIg)
Good to know... I do like that one better. As in "Elliot Ness says he would like to indict Capone." Or Giuliani says he would like to indict Gotti.
Shut up and do it.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (TOk1P)
I wish Trump, since he gets the role of truth teller this election-
would start pointing out what the real numbers are and how they're fudged-
and how Oblabla's "economic recovery" is a sham of a farce of a scam of a fever dream.
And do this every time he speaks, this would help immunize him against the MSM/Dims dumping the blame for King Putt's awful economy on him or whoever wins.
Cruz and the wannabes would also be smart to do this over and over.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (0cMkb)
As long as they're saying O this is terrible! I'm actually kinda soothed by that.
Its when they go Everything is fine! and simultaneously get onto planes to go anywhere else esp. places without extradition treaties - that's when I freak out.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (3ZtZW)
Is this the initial number? You know, the one that'll be revised downward (like clockwork) in a few months.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 29, 2016 12:45 PM (jhqr1)
Why yes it is.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:27 PM (OrI3J)
OPTIMAL.
Things could not be better.
Your EBT ration of chocolate will be increased from 2 oz to 1 oz.
Life is doubleplusgood under King Obama, PBUH!
Posted by: Your Betters at the MSM and in the Government at January 29, 2016 01:28 PM (gisJf)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at January 29, 2016 01:28 PM (sqs5K)
Posted by: ThunderB
She ain't got yet.
Even if that's the case, the payoff for being the sacrificial lamb is far better than a 'walk in the park' with the Clintons.
And it's likely that anything done will be mild, temporary, and spun to be Joan of Arc.
Posted by: Rent-an-Asshole at January 29, 2016 01:28 PM (326rv)
Trump 60%
Cruz 20%
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:28 PM (fbovC)
Another trucking barometer: orders for new eighteen-wheelers are completely down the drain.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 01:29 PM (noWW6)
Money created by the Fed Res, is loaned to banks... who then use it.
IT COUNTS towards the GDP. It directly adds to it, even though no real wealth (things, services, whatever) is created.
Thus distorting the use of GDP as a reliable measure of the economy.
Because the GDP is measure of the flow of money.
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:23 PM (f7rv6)
C + I + G + (X-M) = GDP = C + S + T
GDP is not the measure of monetary flow (like a cash flow statement), it is the measure of everything produced (like an income statement). The above equation states that Consumption plus Investment plus Government Spending plus Net Exports equals Consumption plus Savings plus Taxes. Money loaned by the Fed to the banks is not in there anywhere. Money loaned by banks to borrowers is not in there anywhere. When the borrowers spend it on consumption, investment, providing government services, or imports, then it is counted in GDP.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:29 PM (5f5bM)
Because O loves the economy intellectually; he just wants to nut out trade policies....or something.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (Ot/7Z)
Money created by the Fed Res, is loaned to banks... who then use it.
IT COUNTS towards the GDP. It directly adds to it, even though no real wealth (things, services, whatever) is created.
Thus distorting the use of GDP as a reliable measure of the economy.
Because the GDP is measure of the flow of money.
Posted by: Don Quixote at January 29, 2016 01:23 PM (f7rv6)
So when the government sells bonds to deficit spend it adds to the GDP, and when the government pays interest and principle on those bonds (forever) it adds to the GDP... right?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: ThunderB
She ain't got yet.
Even if that's the case, the payoff for being the sacrificial lamb is far better than a 'walk in the park' with the Clintons.
And it's likely that anything done will be mild, temporary, and spun to be Joan of Arc."
I agree. Huma is the next Susan McDougal
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (OD2ni)
I disagree. Getting Huma is huge, because she literally knows where all the bodies are buried
Posted by: ThunderB
She ain't got yet.
Even if that's the case, the payoff for being the sacrificial lamb is far better than a 'walk in the park' with the Clintons.
And it's likely that anything done will be mild, temporary, and spun to be Joan of Arc.
Posted by: Rent-an-Asshole at January 29, 2016 01:28 PM (326rv)
Ask Jim Guy Tucker, Webb Hubbell, or the MacDougals.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:31 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 01:25 PM (RVlUM)
But ultimately nobody cares what happens to Hooma. If these clowns play around with it too much, we'll have Hooma in an orange jump suit, sitting in a cell, proclaiming she is being persecuted for not ratting out Hillory.
Makes for great theater. Doesn't lead to indictments of the principle party.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 01:31 PM (TOk1P)
Which is why we need even more immigration. To grow the economy. Open the borders and watch the economy take-off.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 29, 2016 01:31 PM (1BQGO)
Too bad the disclaimer is the very first word. ISSA.
Useless talker, useless comittee former, whatever.
What has all that oversight and investigation and testimony EVER amounted to? Nothing.
Words from him. Nothing.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:31 PM (kKHcp)
inflationary shoe hasn't really dropped yet. Sure, gold doubled in
price and oil skyrocketed until the world accidentally started pumping
so much gas that price has tumbled.
What's scary is the fed printing $ to buy local bonds that go to pay for useless pub sector union thugs' retirements.
This shit can't last forever.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 12:51 PM (EjBTO)
The ONLY reason the inflationary shoe hasn't dropped (other than in the wildly inflated stock market), is that the regulatory environment means companies won't touch all that fake, out-of-thin-air money to actually hire people or produce anything lest Obamacare, EPA, etc. eat them alive.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:31 PM (OrI3J)
Posted by: Tuco at January 29, 2016 01:32 PM (FkBIv)
How can you be POTUS when you can't get a security clearance
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 01:32 PM (RVlUM)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 01:21 PM (1xUj/)
Yes. Yes, it is.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (mf5HN)
I don't think Hillary can function without Huma. So it could go either way - Hilary moves heaven and earth to protect her, or if Huma takes the fall then Hillary's candidacy is toast.
Also, how much would you bet that scrutiny of Huma would turn up contact with some really unsavory ME people?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (NOIQH)
Cruz 20%
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:28 PM (fbovC)
So, Cruz rocked being front and center?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (T78UI)
long enjoyed under Obama.
There is so much that we have long enjoyed under this ass clown. How lucky are we?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (BK3ZS)
This artificially added about 2% to the GDP computation.
So if after the changeover you were to notionally see "3%" growth being reported by the mavens in D.C., that would have been actually only 1% growth under the original econometric model.
Hey kids! What does this most recent report of 0.7% growth work out to under the old model? No peeking! No cheating!
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (noWW6)
Well, if we get a non-Donk President in Nov, at least the Feds will stop massaging the numbers to make the Administration look good. In fact, it'll be practically an overnight change on say.......Jan 21, 2017.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (j4wsR)
(other than in the wildly inflated stock market), is that the
regulatory environment means companies won't touch all that fake,
out-of-thin-air money to actually hire people or produce anything lest
Obamacare, EPA, etc. eat them alive.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:31 PM (OrI3J)
Correct. Which goes to bandersnatch's point that if the Republican president does nothing but eliminate regulations that are on the books now and fire regulators, the economy should take off like a rocket.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (5f5bM)
Fuckinidiot friends on FB insist Trump is the new Hitler
France threatens to recognize 'Palestine" if no progress is made on France's peace plan, which of course means the palis will just sit on their hands...idiots
The US Military us under orders to not fight back against Iran under any circumstances
We have a felon running for President
And I'm cranky, tired and pissed
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (DUoqb)
Republican presidential preference poll on Drudge has some serious number of votes now
Trump 60%
Cruz 20%
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:28 PM (fbovC)
That is no more a serious poll than it was every time Luap Nor ran (and got eleventy billion votes on every internet poll).
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (OrI3J)
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (OD2ni)
"Inflation" is really about money supply, which we have had a lot of, but it has not stimulated as planned because stimulus is supposed to be used only judiciously to help accommodate organic growth. Throwing money from helicopters really doesn't work, as we are seeing. Those helicopters have hovered over Democrat interests, foreign interests, America being the fatted calf, getting weak.
Most people look at price inflation, which can be kept low with a weak economy and foreign slave labor, and h-1B slave labor. But we are growing a welfare class, as we borrow and fabricate trillions out of thin air, rather than stimulating the private sector of America, first. The world needs us more than we need them, but our DC elite and corporate elite see better profit margins by using the slaves, and we are lied to about why that is so good. Democrat elites have their own hate for America, but their union workers don't like the outsourcing.
Posted by: Illiniwek at January 29, 2016 01:35 PM (5Gpe2)
I thought at least one of the charges re: mishandling of classified docs, if convicted, barred her from ever holding office again?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:35 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (OrI3J)
DANG. That's a lot of votes coming from 9600 baud modem users!
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:35 PM (DofIg)
====
Yet.... they need to get the economy moving somehow....
...which means the only option left is to distribute the money gratis to the public to stimulate spending.
If this occurs, I recommend running out immediately and buying long-term storage foods. You ought to already have a gun and ammo.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:35 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (NOIQH)
That information would never get out of the Obama DOJ. They would put a terrorist intel quash on it, and we would never know unless there is a Republican miracle.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:36 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: $15 Minimum Wage
****
No, in fact why don't we carpool? We'll both get there at the same time!
Posted by: The Employer Mandate at January 29, 2016 01:36 PM (NeFrd)
Excessive misery
Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're boned at January 29, 2016 01:37 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:37 PM (BtG7l)
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (OD2ni)
Well in her defense he served under an assumed name and it was not publicized
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 01:38 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 29, 2016 01:38 PM (RVlUM)
the recommendation of the FBI? Does it have to go through the DOJ first?
I'm so confused. And anxious.
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:37 PM (BtG7l)
Pardon first, then charges
Posted by: Obamao at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (jsWA8)
elect Hillary because she knows how to get the economy roaring."
If we had a real press corps in America, instead of having a press corpse that is nothing more than an auxiliary wing of the Democratic Party, clips like this would run right next to a clip of Bubba addressing the Democratic convention in 2012.
The clip in which Bubba urged America to stay the course with Obama, and said that a return to bursting 1990s levels of economic prosperity was just around the corner thanks to Obamanomics kicking in, and that Americans would very shortly "feel it", in his words, as they became more prosperous.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (noWW6)
...which means the only option left is to distribute the money gratis to the public to stimulate spending.
If this occurs, I recommend running out immediately and buying
long-term storage foods. You ought to already have a gun and ammo.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:35 PM (3ZtZW)
In other news, the administration just this week asked for $12 billion to feed kids breakfast and lunch during the summer when schools aren't normally open. This includes bus transportation and the overhead to keep the school cafeterias open as feeding centers. The mothers, of course, are getting WIC payments to buy food for those kids already, which are not docked for the free meals during the school year. What are the chances they would be docked for the summer meals? They have been doing this since 2009. If that's not effectively giving money away, I don't know what is.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (BtG7l)
Deep dark depression
Excessive misery
---
Remember the Misery Index?
That was back in the days when the Media actually criticized Democrats.
Would never happen now. EVER.
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (gisJf)
Hillary herself may or may not get sanctioned specifically over the server itself, but not the data. She can plausibly argue she had nothing to do with stripping off anything and how could she know if it didn't say at the top it was classified anyway?
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:40 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 01:38 PM (DUoqb)
And the records are sealed.
Posted by: Heb at January 29, 2016 01:40 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (jsWA
I am pretty sure he died last year
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 01:40 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:37 PM (BtG7l)
FBI gives evidence to DOJ.
Who sifts through and filters it.
In the event of a grand jury, DOJ presents whatever evidence they want to present.
Pretty much what happened when the grand jury in Texas ended up indicting the guys who filmed the Planned Parenthood sting, instead of Planned Parenthood.
Hope that helps.
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:40 PM (DofIg)
Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (WfHs6)
Trump readers aren't Ron Paul types. Those Drudge results are pretty consistent with other polls.
My first preference is Cruz but my my biggest concern is not letting the establishment steal the nomination from 'We the People'. I'm afraid the only way to do that is uniting behind the 'outsider' with the best numbers.
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (fbovC)
Posted by: Heb at January 29, 2016 01:40 PM (T78UI)
Well I don't know about that, but it was an Intel Billet
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 29, 2016 01:34 PM (OD2ni)
Andrea is like the Miss South Carolina winner from a while back. No matter what she says her whole life, she'll want for nothing.
Posted by: Blano at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (3eoPa)
Obama administration, because of its inability to produce economic
tangibles, changed the reckoning of GDP at the end of 2013, to
overweight "intangibles".
This artificially added about 2% to the GDP computation.
So
if after the changeover you were to notionally see "3%" growth being
reported by the mavens in D.C., that would have been actually only 1%
growth under the original econometric model.
Hey kids! What does this most recent report of 0.7% growth work out to under the old model? No peeking! No cheating!
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 01:33 PM (noWW6)
Actual, real GDP is about -2.2 to -2.5%.
They didn't just start counting intangibles (like the warm fuzzy feeling authors get from holding a copyright even if they are not getting actual royalties that would count toward actual GDP), they also moved RD spending from being in intermediate fact-of-production cash outlay to being an output counted as part of GDP. in actuality fed fiddling added about 3% to GDP.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (OrI3J)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (jsWA8)
corpse that is nothing more than an auxiliary wing of the Democratic
Party, clips like this would run right next to a clip of Bubba
addressing the Democratic convention in 2012.
The clip in which
Bubba urged America to stay the course with Obama, and said that a
return to bursting 1990s levels of economic prosperity was just around
the corner thanks to Obamanomics kicking in, and that Americans would
very shortly "feel it", in his words, as they became more prosperous.
--
You know, this is a good idea.
There are lots of good ideas here at the HQ re: commercials. I wish someone had an in with the Trump people, since he's the only one with b@lls enough to run with any of this.
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (gisJf)
I've seen an email where Hillary specifically told Sullivan to strip off a classified label of a document and send it to her so no, no plausible deniability.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (Ot/7Z)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (xuouz)
to feed kids breakfast and lunch during the summer when schools aren't
normally open.
Breeding a nation of Julias.
Some big cities are also providing free dinners at school, and sending food home w/kids for the weekend. It's sick, this mentality of total dependence on the state to feed your freakin' kid.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (NOIQH)
Oh, I hadn't seen that.
If there's a Rock n Roll heaven...
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (1xUj/)
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (bT0b6)
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (OrI3J)
When do we find out who was making the call to let the ambassador and (coulda been) 50 of our men die in Benghazi, by refusing to give the GO order? We know Hillary was busy fabricating a video alibi, where was Obama?
Posted by: Illiniwek at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (5Gpe2)
====
THE POLLS ARE LIES!!!
/AoSHQ, circa 2011
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:43 PM (BtG7l)
So, what's the deal? Does the Grand Jury indict on
the recommendation of the FBI? Does it have to go through the DOJ first?
I'm so confused. And anxious.
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:37 PM (BtG7l)
Pardon first, then charges
Posted by: Obamao at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (T78UI)
In theory, a grand jury can do whatever it wants to do. In practice, everything referred to a federal grand jury is fed to them by the local US Attorney's office (DOJ). The FBI does not even have authority to issue a subpoena without a warrant, which takes a grand jury (or judge in exigent circumstances), which means the DOJ is the gatekeeper even for issuance of subpoenas. Federal grand juries normally meet once a week, and overwhelmingly their docket consists of rubber stamping drug cases (subpoenas and indictments) that are presented by the US Attorney's office.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:43 PM (5f5bM)
a classified label of a document and send it to her so no, no plausible
deniability.
And Sullivan is now Joe Biden's national security advisor (or something like that). So, no way will Sullivan be charged.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:43 PM (NOIQH)
Love Matt Drudge, but that is a worthless poll. I want to see the final real polls within 12-24 hours of the Caucuses.
The other important number are the favorable/unfavorables. And Trump is at the bottom of all candidates by a rather wide margin, across all party affiliations.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (zLP1L)
You'd settle for Ted Cruz
You'll get Donald Trump
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (xuouz)
Fuck.
You're right.
Fuck.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (kKHcp)
Joe Coker passed away in 2014.
Posted by: Hank at January 29, 2016 01:43 PM (BtG7l)
But Abe Vigoda is still with us, and Jeff Goldblum is not.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (5f5bM)
Complete and utter bullshit. They count government spending as part of it and they've added a metric shitton. If you remove that from the equation, we've been in an extended recession/depression for years.
First idiot who pipes up about the "low unemployment rate" gets a double-ration of feces and urine in the camps.
Posted by: physics geek at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (MT22W)
Go visit Breitbart and then come back and say that again with a straight face.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (OrI3J)
But they will! Mark my words! My mission was a success after all! Now you tiny fools all will see the effect on the U.S. labor market of this _fully armed and operational_ Obamacare! Employer mandates for everyone! Bwahahahahah!!!
Posted by: The Fuse On The Employer Mandate Bomb at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (bT0b6)
Snap crackle pop
Poast toasties.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (xuouz)
Everything is about him and has nothing to do with the actual law.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (Ot/7Z)
==
That's goods and services. Not direct injections of cash
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 12:55 PM (fSuK4)
Question for those in the know.
The report I saw yesterday was that if a personal protection order had been issued against you, you can no longer carry.
1. Is a restraining order the same thing as a personal protection order?
2. You all realize that this means if you already have a valid carry license, it is now null and void because of the new/old rule. Simply because a judge determined that you threw a sock in the direction of your wife during an argument.
I say this because PPO's and restraining orders are issued with little evidence because the burden of proof is on the accused, not the accuser.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (TKQrK)
Posted by: Blano at January 29, 2016 01:41 PM (3eoPa)"
It's like the old headline from The Onion:
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR HOT CHICKS IS 0%
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (jsWA
*sings*
What would you do
If i told you I died
On December 22, 2014
Lend me your nose
And I'll let you smell me
As proof I've been dead for a year
Oh, I'm quite high because of maggots
Oh, I died now I've got big maggots
Don't cry when you see my maggots
Posted by: Zombie Joe Cocker at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (0cMkb)
Go visit Breitbart and then come back and say that again with a straight face.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (OrI3J)
Like this?
bit.ly/1PYUuEL
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: steveegg at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (39g3+)
You'd settle for Ted Cruz
You'll get Donald Trump
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (xuouz)
Fuck.
You're right.
Fuck.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (kKHcp)
Ace is going to have to change the Mencken quote on the banner, isn't he?
Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (NOIQH)
While the state is continuing to pay the moms WIC money as if it weren't also feeding their kids.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (zLP1L)
"You'd settle for Ted Cruz" - I wouldn't call it settling...
"You'll get Donald Trump" - And a very angry scalp weasel as a bonus.
So far I'm not too upset with this one.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (hLRSq)
Reduce, re-use, re-cycle!
Posted by: Happy Fun Camp Activities Director at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (jsWA
I am pretty sure he died last year
Posted by: Nevergiveup
so 2016 is even worse than Big Bird thought. it's reaching back and killing people last year.
Posted by: x at January 29, 2016 01:47 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (5f5bM)
Speaking of, Tucker was convicted of iirc 4 felonies related to white water but didn't have to go to jail because of some sort of illness. 20 years later, he's sitting in sunday school seemingly perfectly fine.
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 01:47 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: physics geek at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (MT22W)
Solid urine and liquid feces, I hope.
Posted by: steveegg at January 29, 2016 01:47 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 29, 2016 01:47 PM (bT0b6)
.
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 01:47 PM (lIU4e)
Heh.
Herewith, a fond remembrance.
Belushi used to do a Joe Cocker impression on SNL. Then Cocker came on as a musical guest.
It had all the potential to be hugely embarrassing but they did a duet and it was extraordinary.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (1xUj/)
His agent, John S. Kelly, confirmed that Leslie Nielsen passed away in his home due to complications from pneumonia.
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (fbovC)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (zLP1L)
Oooh ooooh, mistah Kotta! I know the answer to this one.
The GOP establishment will come around and hold their noses and vote for the candidate of their party, because what are they going to do, let "THEM" win?
How'd I do?
Posted by: HorshackEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (kKHcp)
I'll take a pre-Owebama economy all day long.
Posted by: Sponge at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (xttKs)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 12:50 PM (2x3L+)
Really? I have great affection for Rush, but I couldn't take the all the Rush and Trump, Trump and Rush all the time any longer. It's like there's nothing else happening in the world. I haven't listened in probably weeks. I subscribe to rush 24/7, and I try to look for topics I would be interested in that are not about either of those two men, but it's really hard to find anything. As if Trump isn't getting enough publicity everywhere else.
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (uz/Pv)
Posted by: Dr. Not the 9 O'clock News at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (7rTjM)
having a press corpse that is nothing more than an auxiliary wing of the
Democratic Party, clips like this would run right next to a clip of
Bubba addressing the Democratic convention in 2012.
The clip in
which Bubba urged America to stay the course with Obama, and said that a
return to bursting 1990s levels of economic prosperity was just around
the corner thanks to Obamanomics kicking in, and that Americans would
very shortly "feel it", in his words, as they became more prosperous.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (noWW6)
Why wait for the useless press to do something we can do ourselves? I am sure there is someone here with enough tech savvy to grab the clip and do whatever voiceovers are necessary. There are about a million websites it can then be disseminated to. If we really want to get fancy, we can do a go-fund-me and get it on TV.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (OrI3J)
Since I probably missed the summary, how did your date with the hot chick go?
Posted by: Blano at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (3eoPa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (zLP1L)
It's sterile and I like the taste.
Posted by: Patches O'Houlihan at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:30 PM (5f5bM)
Speaking of, Tucker was convicted of iirc 4 felonies related to white water but didn't have to go to jail because of some sort of illness. 20 years later, he's sitting in sunday school seemingly perfectly fine.
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 01:47 PM (lIU4e)
He got better.
Posted by: The dead guy on Eric Idle's cart at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (s5o+q)
Nah. Never wanted Walker.
He seemed OK as long as I was only reading about him. Then I found out he sucked ass.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (3ZtZW)
GDP is not
the measure of monetary flow (like a cash flow statement), it is the
measure of everything produced (like an income statement). The above
equation states that Consumption plus Investment plus Government
Spending plus Net Exports equals Consumption plus Savings plus Taxes.
Money loaned by the Fed to the banks is not in there anywhere. Money
loaned by banks to borrowers is not in there anywhere. When the
borrowers spend it on consumption, investment, providing government
services, or imports, then it is counted in GDP.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:29 PM (5f5bM)A measure of every penny spent, really, but close enough for government work.
Posted by: steveegg at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (cL79m)
A true Jedi banker calls this economic scenario "a Depression" and then moves swiftly to claim the super-primo refrigerator box location under the highway overpass as his abode, before the Sith get there.
http://yhoo.it/1nDjif1
Posted by: Obi Wan Kenobi, Central Banker To The Stars at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (TxJGV)
You're right.
Fuck.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (kKHcp)
Ace is going to have to change the Mencken quote on the banner, isn't he?
Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (s5o+q)
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (XtAzU)
His agent, John S. Kelly, confirmed that Leslie Nielsen passed away in his home due to complications from pneumonia.
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (fbovC)
Surely you can't be serious.
Posted by: steveegg at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:42 PM (NOIQH)
Have a friend who works in an alternative school. She teaches GED courses to students who for one reason or the other, are out of mainstream high school(criminal record, pregnancy, etc.)
Her school served breakfast. She said virtually none of her students showed up on time to eat, rather, they brought breakfast with them. Doritos, Mountain Dew, Ding Dongs, etc. Most reliably, the pregnant fifteen year olds.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (TKQrK)
If you're going the wrong way, the way to progress is to turn around.
His agent, John S. Kelly, confirmed that Leslie Nielsen passed away in his home due to complications from pneumonia.
That used to be code for "AIDS" but he was 84 so its probably just straight what it says.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (39g3+)
His agent, John S. Kelly, confirmed that Leslie Nielsen passed away in his home due to complications from pneumonia.
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito at January 29, 2016 01:48 PM (fbovC)
6 years ago...
Posted by: Sponge at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (xttKs)
I can confirm that. In 2010.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (YFFpo)
I just got my2016 Official Democratic Presidential Strategy Survey.
I am, of course, a member of the other party for primary reasons, so it make no sense for me to get this.
When I do the survey, do I choose the most expensive option for every question?
Posted by: shibumi, RIP USA at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (gisJf)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (jsWA
Heaven has a kick ass band and film section just based on the last 6 months.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 01:51 PM (OrI3J)
Fired upon is practically the same as being fired.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 01:51 PM (4WhSY)
You'd settle for Yellowstone Supervolcano
You'll get Donald Trump
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (XtAzU)
Serious DOOM there.
I haz a sad now.
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 29, 2016 01:51 PM (DofIg)
Ah, back on her staff. He was announced as Deputy Assistant to the President and National Security Advisor to the Vice President in Feb 2013, but now back on Hillary's staff.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 01:51 PM (NOIQH)
I called for less of it. Doubt if it made a dent, but it's nice to at least get the idea out there that there are alternatives.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 29, 2016 01:01 PM (LUgeY)/i]
Remember when the economic contraction first hit? Megan actually posted, and I'm paraphrasing because I'm too lazy too look it up, "We should spend money like water this year to stop it. And maybe next year, too." Less than 2 years later she wrote "Fiscally frugal people such as myself" and I nearly stroked out. I read her stuff only for the laughs nowadays.
Posted by: physics geek at January 29, 2016 01:51 PM (MT22W)
Speaking of, Tucker was convicted of iirc 4
felonies related to white water but didn't have to go to jail because of
some sort of illness. 20 years later, he's sitting in sunday school
seemingly perfectly fine.
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 01:47 PM (lIU4e)
He got better.
Posted by: The dead guy on Eric Idle's cart at January 29, 2016 01:49 PM (s5o+q)
The Libya flight 103 bomber they sent back to Libya from Scotland for his terminal illness also turned out to be not so terminal.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:51 PM (5f5bM)
Posted by: Chevy Chase at January 29, 2016 01:52 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at January 29, 2016 01:52 PM (cUavq)
His agent, John S. Kelly, confirmed that Leslie Nielsen passed away in his home due to complications from pneumonia.
Posted by: zika bearing mosquito
Shirley you jest!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 01:52 PM (SAhpk)
Posted by: Bones McCoy at January 29, 2016 01:52 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (jsWA
In 2014.....
Posted by: Sponge at January 29, 2016 01:53 PM (xttKs)
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2016 01:51 PM (5f5bM)
He did have a terminal illness. He couldn't handle airline terminals.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:53 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 29, 2016 01:53 PM (kXoT0)
Huma is Hillary's horcrux.. where there's a piece of Hillary's soul entombed so that she can regenerate herself and be immortal ala Voldemort.
Posted by: McCool at January 29, 2016 01:53 PM (TQxRy)
His agent, John S. Kelly, confirmed that Leslie Nielsen passed away in his home due to complications from pneumonia.
****
um, this is a Mandela Effect.
He's already dead in my timeline.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:53 PM (EjBTO)
Just like committed Dems will vote for Hellary.
Posted by: HorshackEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (uz/Pv)
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk, father of the galaxy at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (39g3+)
food home w/kids for the weekend. It's sick, this mentality of total
dependence on the state to feed your freakin' kid."
There was a wire service photo of a visibly uncomfortable Chelsea Clinton helping to assemble baloney sandwiches in an inner-city school cafeteria for MLK Day. Probably the first time in her life that the Crown Princess has even so much as come in contact with cheap processed meat. Disorienting for her.
Someone said, wait, what? It's a federal holiday. Why is the school open? Why are they serving meals? Why aren't these kids eating at home?
Well, they're open to feed the kids even when school isn't in session, because if the schools didn't do this, the kids would "go hungry". This despite absolutely record levels of expenditure on EBT, SNAP, WIC, and the rest of the nutritional-assistance alphabet soup programs which give fat benefits to those kids' parents with the intention that the parents will, y'know, _feed the damn kids_ with the proceeds.
No one on the Republican side says anything about this. Not even the vaunted Trump. The "you hate the poor and you want them to starve" trope is just too terrifying to come near.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (noWW6)
This girl and I have a history so I'm really just leaning in to smell the flower on her lapel and hoping I don't get my face squirted on again.
Bad analogy? Maybe I'm not here for the hunting.
Either way, she hasn't stopped texting me and is also recently single. I see this as a situation with moderate upside and less moderate but navigable risk of emotional carnage.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 01:46 PM (s5o+q)
"The Choice is Made."
...
"What did you Do Ray?"
...
"It's Donald Trump."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (NeFrd)
Love Matt Drudge, but that is a worthless poll. I want to see the final real polls within 12-24 hours of the Caucuses.
The other important number are the favorable/unfavorables. And Trump is at the bottom of all candidates by a rather wide margin, across all party affiliations.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:44 PM (zLP1L)
Which tells me that Trump is an act of spite. It's like sicking your dog on your ex who ran off with your best friend.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: $15 Minimum Wage
****
No, in fact why don't we carpool? We'll both get there at the same time!
Posted by: The Employer Mandate at January 29, 2016 01:36 PM (NeFrd)
Hey yous kids, get offa my lawn!
Posted by: The Social Security Implosion at January 29, 2016 01:55 PM (TOk1P)
Just like committed Dems will vote for Hellary.
Posted by: HorshackEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (kKHcp)
We'll see. I am pulling heavy for Cruz. I will settle for Trump and now degenerating to holding my nose for him.
Anyone else and I really will stay at home.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:55 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Baldy at January 29, 2016 01:55 PM (1SCTq)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:55 PM (zLP1L)
Almost. I mean the Establishmentarians.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:55 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (RD7QR)
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: Sponge at January 29, 2016 01:55 PM (xttKs)
You'd settle for Yellowstone Supervolcano
You'll get Donald Trump
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 01:50 PM (XtAzU)
*checks*
Yep, all three are naturally occurring extinction level events.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (3ZtZW)
I doubt there are many Christian voters who think Trump could recite the
Nicene Creed, or even identify it. Evangelicals have given up trying to
elect one of their own. What they're looking for is a bodyguard,
someone to shield them from mounting (and real) threats to their freedom
of speech and worship. Trump fits that role nicely, better in fact than
many church-going Republicans. For eight years, there was a born-again
in the White House. How'd that work out for Christians, here and in
Iraq?
Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (R1a9g)
Posted by: Picric at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (QnQ+g)
Posted by: McCool at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (TQxRy)
****
Finally! Something Chelsea is qualified to do. Sling baloney! Learned at her mother's knee.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (kKHcp)
Always look at who's signing the paycheck. In McArdle's case, it's arch-crony-capitalist and Big Goverment backer Mike Bloomberg.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 01:57 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: McCool at January 29, 2016 01:57 PM (TQxRy)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 01:57 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (NeFrd)
She looks like the bastard child of Web Hubbell and Howdy Doody.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 01:58 PM (zLP1L)
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Let's just say I've got plenty of practice going down for Hilary!
Posted by: Huma at January 29, 2016 01:58 PM (PNcou)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 01:54 PM (NeFrd)
I, on the other hand, have been dead for quite some time.
Posted by: Aykroyd's Post-Belushi Career at January 29, 2016 01:58 PM (TOk1P)
Why the rush of migrants?
New voters. Plus, they hate us. Just listen to them talk. This is revenge for winning the cold war.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 29, 2016 01:58 PM (EjBTO)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (NeFrd)
You can't make a scene like this up.
Chelsea Clinton, working in the preferred medium for any Clinton, baloney. Luckily the only ones forced to actually eat the baloney are poor people.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 01:58 PM (xuouz)
Yeah sure Bones you say "he's dead" often enough eventually you get one right. You know what they say about blind pigs.
Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor. Not a bloody tricorder.
Posted by: Dr Leonard McCoy at January 29, 2016 01:58 PM (4WhSY)
Or maybe that fake sign language guy is reading them off.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 01:59 PM (XtAzU)
I want to believe this means that it will include public corruption charges. I've ranted that if it's only over e-mails, Hillary will spin it as a technical violation by her underlings.
An FBI criminal referral will likely get leaked. It should drive Hillary from the race, no matter what the DOJ does. That's because Hillary is a weak candidate, who's getting weaker by the day.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 01:59 PM (r1fLd)
Magnificent, when he was in office. Tucker's bow tie is on too tight.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:00 PM (39g3+)
Last night Hillary tweeted out a picture of herself mocking the R debate:
#GOPDebate Lots of bickering, no real plans to strengthen families or keep us safe
What picture did she use? She chose a picture of herself at the Benghazi hearings looking bored with her head in her hand and eyes shut.
Go read what some of the responses were
http://tinyurl.com/j59jpdr
Unbelievable.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 02:00 PM (oiNtH)
Nevermind
Posted by: McCool at January 29, 2016 01:57 PM (TQxRy)
Comedy is hard!
Posted by: Zombie Bill Hicks at January 29, 2016 02:00 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 01:56 PM (NeFrd)
That's great. I'm so happy for her.
Maybe she can get a sparky glitter hairnet
and an apron that says-
"First Baloney Slinger!"
It's nice when 35 year old youngsters finally discover their calling.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 29, 2016 02:01 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 02:01 PM (SAhpk)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 02:01 PM (Zu3d9)
Or maybe that fake sign language guy is reading them off.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 01:59 PM (XtAzU)
OUR TOP STORY TONIGHT . . .
Posted by: Garrett Morris at January 29, 2016 02:02 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: CSMBigBird at January 29, 2016 01:39 PM (jsWA
In 2014.....
Posted by: Sponge at January 29, 2016 01:53 PM (xttKs)
WHAT A TROUPER!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 02:02 PM (8ZskC)
****
A familial heritage of veritable baloney virtuosity
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 02:02 PM (NeFrd)
number employed divided by adults between the ages of 18 and 65.......or maybe the entire adult population
Posted by: East Bay Jay at January 29, 2016 02:03 PM (PvCxa)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 02:03 PM (8ZskC)
She wouldn't even be in the race in the first place in a sane world with a remotely competent, objective media. We ain't in that world. She could win the presidency while testifying in court.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:03 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 02:03 PM (r1fLd)
Nevermind
Posted by: McCool at January 29, 2016 01:57 PM (TQxRy)
Comedy is hard!
Posted by: Zombie Bill Hicks
Keith Richards dead. Who has the stones to tell him?
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 02:03 PM (SAhpk)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 02:04 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Zombie Bill Hicks at January 29, 2016 02:00 PM (TOk1P)
Not really.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 02:01 PM (Zu3d9)
Honey, if you don't stop eating so much fudge and cum, you'll be joining us soon.
Posted by: Zombie Bill Hicks at January 29, 2016 02:04 PM (TOk1P)
Anyone else and I really will stay at home.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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You're a better R than I am. Because I will not vote for The Hair. If it isn't TrusTed, I either vote D or stay home.
Yes, it has come to this. You did it to youselves (and the rest of us), GOPe.
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 02:04 PM (fSuK4)
Posted by: Yip & 2 Corintinians at January 29, 2016 02:04 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (uz/Pv)
'bout the only one making out in this econ is the fuel makers for AF1, and the green cutters.... bet he even has a caddy on staff in SecSvc....
Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (67aEn)
He's not really dead, he just smells that way.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (4WhSY)
In her defense it probably was some 19 year old intern who has never even heard of Benghazi and just looked up "bored hillary" on Google.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (39g3+)
charges. I've ranted that if it's only over e-mails, Hillary will spin
it as a technical violation by her underlings.
What we haven't heard much about yet is, A] Who was she sending this classified info *to* (other than Blumenthal), and B] Who was dong the actual lifting from the secured networks.
That the FBI has 150 people working on this would make one think that there are a lot of people involved, not just Hillary. Apparently the FBI is now investigating the source agencies and analysts for the classified info found on her server, not only to get the original classification rating and see what was changed when lifted, but to determine who Hillary and aides were tapping for access. Could be messy if Hillary had compromised contacts in these agencies willingly sharing docs with her team, not that we'll even hear the details...
Posted by: Lizzy at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (NOIQH)
Or maybe that fake sign language guy is reading them off.
Posted by: Buzzsaw
Jesus H Christ! Tarter sauce out the nose!
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (SAhpk)
Magnificent, when he was in office. Tucker's bow tie is on too tight.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:00 PM (39g3+)
Repudiating the hard treasons of the left requires repudiating the soft treason of the right. George W Bush was and is a good man, but he was a bad president in that he did the right things the wrong way, which ended up as much a victory for the left as four years of Al Gore would have been, if not more so.
We also can't window the data. Yes all of this is Obama's fault: Bush war hysteria gave him the political cover to act the way he has with impunity.
Let It Burn means it all burns. There can be no half measures.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Yip & 2 Corintinians at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Zombie Bill Hicks at January 29, 2016 02:00 PM (TOk1P)
Comedy is difficult!
Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:06 PM (qCMvj)
****
A familial heritage of veritable baloney virtuosity
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 02:02 PM (NeFrd)
Come on now, everybody knows I prefer bearded clams to baloney . . .
Posted by: Hillary at January 29, 2016 02:06 PM (s5o+q)
Posted by: Hilary! at January 29, 2016 02:06 PM (PNcou)
I feel like an addicted gambler with the dice with Trump.
Still, on the other side it's a bust out commie and a not-too-crypto-commie with blood on her hands.
And after the past 7 years, what the hell is left to lose?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (zLP1L)
He's not really dead, he just smells that way.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (4WhSY)
It's also mildly disconcerting, how his nose keeps falling off.
Posted by: filbert at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (s5o+q)
Yet.... they need to get the economy moving somehow....
...which means the only option left is to distribute the money gratis to the public to stimulate spending.
If this occurs, I recommend running out immediately and buying long-term storage foods. You ought to already have a gun and ammo.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 01:35 PM (3ZtZW)
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They did that in early 2008 with the stimulus checks. It was $180 billion that time. They will do it again, but it will be $500 billion this time.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (LXJ1e)
economic expansion, though most economists expect growth to rebound in
the current January-March quarter.
.
.
.
.And most economists expected ~2.0 growth for the 4th Quarter also.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (iONHu)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR
Dude... you don't have to go all fucko on us! Geeze!
Posted by: Half Measures Inc! at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (e7T6D)
As I said earlier today, I think he wins 35 states. Yuuuuge victory, in other words.
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Hillary at January 29, 2016 02:06 PM (s5o+q)
Haha! Disgusting!
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (xuouz)
lot of things blow up including pensions and state and municipal
finance. Won't be pretty, and it will have a Blue State bias. The
poisoned water in Flint is a second order effect. We'll see more. Oh
lovely day!
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 02:03 PM (r1fLd)
Yup,And without government spending what would we need?
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: Feel the Bern at Crazy Bernie's Outlet at January 29, 2016 02:08 PM (rso4m)
As I said earlier today, I think he wins 35 states. Yuuuuge victory, in other words.
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (TxJGV)
I think she'll pull *most* of the male Democrats.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:08 PM (qCMvj)
But there are also underemployed that have a degree, get pushed out by H-1Bs and outsourcing, and now work making burgers.
Or there are all those that have given up on looking for work, so they are not counted, though fully able. That number is huge, and the labor participation rate is higher than Jimmy Carter levels, even counting as employed, all those with degrees that are working for peanuts.
Posted by: Illiniwek at January 29, 2016 02:08 PM (5Gpe2)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:08 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Half Measures Inc! at January 29, 2016 02:07 PM (e7T6D)
You go to hell! You go to hell and you die!
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:09 PM (xuouz)
He's not really dead, he just smells that way.
It's also mildly disconcerting, how his nose keeps falling off.
Cocaine's a helluva drug.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 29, 2016 02:09 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (uz/Pv)
Thankfully we learned last year that race and gender are flexible. You can be any you want to be.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 02:09 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 29, 2016 02:09 PM (ucDmr)
He said that inclusion "makes for better entertainment; it makes everybody feel part of one American family, so I think as a whole the industry should do what every other industry should do, which is to look for talent, provide opportunity to everybody."
I guess someone needs to explain to him that dollars drive the entertainment industry just like in professional sports such as the NBA. If you are an individual who can bring in big bank by whatever talent you have that is what rules the day.
Posted by: Cheri at January 29, 2016 02:10 PM (oiNtH)
I read somewhere that most of the new jobs in the last few years have gone to non-citizens and non-whites. Not sure if that's true or not but it has that edge of plausibility.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:10 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Tee Hee... titter titter hee hee OMG! As if we'd let a womyn touch us on our whoo hoo . yikes!
Posted by: Male Democrats ! at January 29, 2016 02:10 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 29, 2016 02:09 PM (ucDmr)
I hope you asked why.
I would love to know this.
My parents are going to toss the Dems aside this election because of the immigration issue, and because they believe he loves America - so his slogan is working.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:11 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (uz/Pv)
Well, come on then.
Posted by: Dead Gay Elephant's Putrefying Anus at January 29, 2016 02:11 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (uz/Pv)
Buckle up, buckaroo.
Posted by: "Caitlyn" Jenner at January 29, 2016 02:11 PM (xuouz)
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The doctrine is true. You are there now. That's why Carter is still around.
Posted by: Roy at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (VndSC)
As I said earlier today, I think he wins 35 states. Yuuuuge victory, in other words.
Posted by: MTF
If he really is a candidate, and doesn't flake off.
And all this means is that NYT is screaming for the war on trump to be widened. Hillary is a walking shitstorm, and the dems may not be able to brazenly swap someone in AND win.
So the need to kill off trump now.
Posted by: Rent-an-Asshole at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Obama at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (TQxRy)
Posted by: Male Democrats ! at January 29, 2016 02:10 PM (e7T6D)
eh?
I saw a stat somewhere where the Dem men weren't too keen on Hillary. I couldn't quote it, because I couldn't remember the source.
I believe this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (qCMvj)
That could be, but Trump needs to spend $5 million now to drop GOTV special forces into Iowa, to make that happen. He has the numbers but Cruz may have the old guys that will show up. Trump has a lot of enthused new participants that need coordination.
Posted by: Illiniwek at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (5Gpe2)
Mr. Genius Economic Theorist has his opinion. Don't try to confuse him with facts.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Feel the Bern
===
Bernie is someone who I think actually would mint that pair of trillion-buck coins the Lefties were yammering on about.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (3ZtZW)
every union person I've talked to is going for Trump. Even the retired ones. Don't know if it means shit or not.
You don't have access to the AFGE messages - they know where their bread is buttered from...
Posted by: Ibin Pharteen at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (67aEn)
The intelligence community has deemed some of the Hillary emails as too damaging to release ever.
Seriously, she needs to go to jail right now.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 29, 2016 02:13 PM (iONHu)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:05 PM (uz/Pv)
Yes, Obama had a press conference at the WH at noon to describe the Labor Dept. new rules. First speaker up was Lilly Ledbetter, who had legislation passed with her name on it that removes the statute of limitations on suing a former or current employer for pay discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender Identity and all kinds of crap. So 40 years ago, I believe Ledbetter wasn't being paid as much as her counterparts.
She's still pissed about it. And she is crying about all the things she could have bought for her family if she had been paid the same as men. She's still whining about this even though this legislation was passed seven years ago.
She has embraced the permanent victim status and she's a useful idiot for the Obama adminstration.
So let's pretend kids...
All the companies that make X widget pay all their employees at said level the exact same amount, regardless of experience, performance, etc. They also make sure they are paying the exact same thing that other companies pay, to try to escape lawsuits. However, now the gov. will charge them with collusion to keep pay at a certain level in an industry.
This is what happens, kids, when you have a command and control economy, dictated by socialists.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 02:13 PM (TKQrK)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:13 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Brian Williams at January 29, 2016 02:13 PM (e7T6D)
I'm assuming there's nothing important in the nation or world that he should be busying himself with that he has time to wade into the Oscars issue.
President Trivial.
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:14 PM (uz/Pv)
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He harkens back to protectionism, which is a time-honored union thinger. And their bosses haven't told them how to vote yet.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 02:14 PM (3ZtZW)
If she was sending it to Sid, you can bet she was sending it to Bill. Was this intelligence "monetized"?
It was the Romanian hacker who uncovered the Sid connection, which revealed the whole home brew server thing, but Sid's getting inside scoop (and others) is an important angle that hasn't been publicly explored.
When you step back and look at the breadth and depth of the criminal enterprise Hillary was running it's actually staggering. Talk about balls. I almost have to admire her for it.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 02:14 PM (r1fLd)
****
So, if the caucus participants aren't very experienced or good at it, could you call them caucus suckers?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at January 29, 2016 02:15 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
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The last little healthy corner of my liver?
Seriously, The Pompous One is no better than our socialist enemies, so I cannot even hold my nose - once again...
I either participate and bring on the burning times, or stay home and hunker down.
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 02:15 PM (fSuK4)
Posted by: Men with smallish Hands at January 29, 2016 02:15 PM (e7T6D)
So the need to kill off trump now.
Posted by: Rent-an-Asshole at January 29, 2016 02:12 PM (326rv)
You can't stump the Trump.
Go read Scott Adams
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:16 PM (xuouz)
There's something to be said for that. This is as much hell as we have to face.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)
The intelligence community has deemed some of the Hillary emails as too damaging to release ever.
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ITS RRRRAININ SHOES!
HALLELUJAH
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 02:16 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 02:15 PM (fSuK4)
And have no say in the shape or form of the burning times, which are coming whether you vote or not.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:16 PM (xuouz)
Will he speak to the nation during the Super Bowl ?
Play the Cam Newton race card ?
Posted by: Obama at January 29, 2016 02:16 PM (TQxRy)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 29, 2016 02:16 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2016 02:17 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: McCool at January 29, 2016 02:17 PM (TQxRy)
There's something to be said for that. This is as much hell as we have to face.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:16 PM (39g3+)
I think it's the southern food and the lazy day sunny days...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:17 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Yip & 2 Corinthians at January 29, 2016 02:17 PM (e7T6D)
In other words, Abe Vigoda, while it's been a fun ride, has not really had much celebrity recently, and was very very old.
One would score him much lower than, for example, an Amy Winehouse. But Amy would score lower than, for example, Heath Ledger, because she was a KNOWN druggie, if not a more serious user.
Lower still would be Steve Irwin because, while it is a bad idea to jump into all those situations he did with deadly creatures, and one might have been wise to have him in one's pool... still, a stingray? That's just way cool.
I'm sure we've had higher scoring deaths than him recently, but he's got to be fairly high on the list.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 02:18 PM (TOk1P)
The intelligence community has deemed some of the Hillary emails as too damaging to release ever.
Why too damaging?
They've already been released to the Chinese.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 02:18 PM (SAhpk)
Seriously, The Pompous One is no better than our socialist enemies, so I cannot even hold my nose - once again...
I either participate and bring on the burning times, or stay home and hunker down.
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 02:15 PM (fSuK4)
One more inane bloviation from Trump and I might just agree.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:18 PM (zLP1L)
Yep. Classic "pay for play." Grease the Clinton Crime Family Foundation, get State Department preference. And a private email network to cover all the tracks (or so they thought). Even worse, America's national security gets fucked as an unfortunate side effect of the Clintons' scheme make big bank.
Absolutely appalling.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 29, 2016 02:19 PM (8ZskC)
I predict that, if Cruz wins in Iowa, he gets aggressive and spends big against Trump. Lord knows, there is plenty to say in negative ads. But if he loses, Cruz pulls back and acknowledges reality.
Reality is: you don't want to hurt the nominee, and Trump (if he wins in Iowa) is the nominee.
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 02:19 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Megyn's false eyelashes at January 29, 2016 02:19 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:19 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2016 02:17 PM (Zs4uk)
8 years and $20 trillion. And the degradation of our armed forces. And the further destruction/balkanization of our society. And the over $200 trillion of unfunded liabilities. And
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:20 PM (zLP1L)
Saw a couple of man-dress/alka-seltzer hat characters down in a city park -- amongst the other kiosks and street musicians. The had a great big sign about calling people to join Islam. They looked so arrogant, and so sleazy, and smirked like they know something I don't. I see rag head women running cash registers. I bought beer at a drugstore and the rag head called up a manager who rang it up at another register. Who needs them? Is there a govt financial incentive to hire them? I am turning into a bigoted prick as I gradually realize how much the average Muslim immigrant despises people like me, and that they find recent Muslim massacres of infidels perfectly understandable.
Our replacements, courtesy of the Federal government.
This isn't diversity, it's an invasion. We're being erased and our children sacrificed on a pagan altar.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 29, 2016 02:20 PM (/f6Nd)
Remember how the 2009 Obama economic porkulus package got rejiggered at the last minute?
Much more of it had originally been meant to go to heavy construction work. The sort of work which a goodly number of male Democrats do for a living. Instead, feminists said it wasn't fair to throw all that cash at keeping big, sweaty, hairy men employed. The money was directed instead to support women's jobs in "social" sectors.
Mitt Romney, who may or may not be distantly aware that there are people who heft shovels for a paycheck, said not one word about this in 2012. Leaving all those potential "Reagan Democrat" crossover votes sitting on the table.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 02:20 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: The GOPe at January 29, 2016 02:20 PM (326rv)
Cruz has the better ground game in Iowa. I think Trump is in trouble on that score. Again, we'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:21 PM (zLP1L)
>> They've already been released to the Chinese.
I'm hoping that the Cruz campaign - or even the Trump campaign, if he were prepared to be serious about regicide - already has a list of all the defense contractors, military, etc, that were sent to jail for lesser offenses than what Hillary's already acknowledged.
Posted by: Your EPA at January 29, 2016 02:21 PM (o+SC1)
Ron Wood for the win.
Dude smokes like a chimney.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 29, 2016 02:21 PM (659DL)
The intelligence community has deemed some of the Hillary emails as too damaging to release ever.
Now my interest is piqued.
Zombie Lincoln shot Kennedy under orders from Area 51 aliens?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 29, 2016 02:21 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:21 PM (voOPb)
It's between Cruz and Bernie.
I'm not sure if I can trust Cruz to make the radical changes I believe the country needs. I know Bernie will make changes and that his changes will bring other counter-changes from the right.
We'll have to see how it shakes out.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:19 PM (39g3+)
Haha what?
Posted by: Selma, 12 Years a Slave, Precious, Crash, Milk, and Dallas Buyer's Club at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (xuouz)
Remember, a Hilary win is as good as a conservative loss.
The X factor is Trump with that, but it doesn't negate my statement.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (zLP1L)
Cruz has the better ground game in Iowa. I think Trump is in trouble on that score. Again, we'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 2
You are one of my favorite optimists Mr. Sefton
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (voOPb)
During a trial in Andover Joint Municipal Court in November and December, Robert Ehling, 78, had claimed he acted in self-defense.
http://goo.gl/TQwOvX
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I'm on the old man's side. Those were raping bears!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (iQIUe)
It's in my book.
Posted by: Friedrich Hayek at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Taqyia2Me at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (sJuKe)
The GOPe wouldn't impeach...
This Tax Treaty Would Authorize the Automatic Sharing of Americans' Financial Information With Foreign Governments
In November, lawmakers on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved a number of seemingly innocuous tax treaties, which typically pass with little to no fanfare.
...
Specifically, the U.S. government would be required to share with foreign governments the financial information of foreign individuals and businesses with accounts in the U.S. Additionally, foreign governments would be required to share with the U.S. the financial information of Americans' and U.S.-based businesses with accounts overseas.
daily signal
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (qCMvj)
>> there are people who heft shovels for a paycheck, said not
>> one word about this in 2012. Leaving all those potential
>> "Reagan Democrat" crossover votes sitting on the table.
Y'know, Mitt Romney is probably the best human being to run for President since...oh, maybe his father.
And yet there was a certain lack of killer instinct, perhaps not quite so much so as the tragic disappointment of McCain in 2008, but nonetheless he seemed to be locked up in the GOPe "we can't attack the black guy" mode.
Posted by: Your EPA at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (3ZtZW)
Dude smokes like a chimney.
But Ronnie got sober.
Hung with Keith for decades and got off the carousel to save his life.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (1xUj/)
Remember, a Hilary win is as good as a conservative loss. TO THE ESTABLISHMENT
Sheesh
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (zLP1L)
http://tinyurl.com/zrvzt7j
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (fWAjv)
Cruz has the better ground game in Iowa. I think Trump is in trouble on that score. Again, we'll see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 2
You are one of my favorite optimists Mr. Sefton
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (voOPb)
Not necessarily optimism, but just reporting what I have been reading from around the web.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (zLP1L)
Ritzy Manhattan, but with the ineradicable voice and demeanor of rough Queens.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: JEM at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (o+SC1)
This isn't diversity, it's an invasion. We're being erased and our children sacrificed on a pagan altar.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 29, 2016 02:20 PM (/f6Nd)
We'll be finding out soon how much cowboy is left in America.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (xuouz)
In one incident in October 2006, a 14-year-old boy in the al-Basra neighborhood of Mosul was actually crucified.
Iraq: Christian Population Dwindling Due To Threats, Attacks May 31, 2007
The Desperate Plight of Iraqi Christians - No doubt the American invasion of Iraq in March, 2003, increased the deterioration of the security situation in the area, and added to the festering ethnic and religious animosities allowing the Islamist movements to concentrate their attacks on the Eastern Christians of Iraq.
2004.12.19 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two Christians are kidnapped and then murdered by Jihadists.
2004.12.08 Iraq Ramadi 1 0 Islamic terrorists kill a Christian doctor as he is attending to (Muslim) patients in a hospital.
2004.12.02 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Islamic terrorists kidnap and decapitate a 29-year-old Christian man.
2004.11.08 Iraq Baghdad 3 45 Muslim extremists bomb two Christian churches, killing three and injuring over forty, including women and children.
I respectfully disagree.
Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (R1a9g)
Posted by: Baldy at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (1SCTq)
Tucker Carlson's column (sidebar) goes into that: Livin is fine inside the Beltway.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (oVJmc)
It's between Cruz and Bernie.
I'm not sure if I can trust Cruz to make the radical changes I believe the country needs...........
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Not to be a disagreeable cuss, but......Do you really think Trump would make radical changes? I really don't. I don't think he has the backbone to fight for his beliefs, if he has any.
If you can't cut ethanol subsidies you aren't ever going to cut anything.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:25 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Baldy at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (1SCTq)
I hope he gets carjacked by an angel-dusted crackhead.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:25 PM (zLP1L)
And meanwhile the fires around the world begin to burn.
Posted by: Sam in VA at January 29, 2016 02:25 PM (bNi5D)
Posted by: MSM watercarrying since 06 at January 29, 2016 02:25 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:26 PM (voOPb)
Ritzy Manhattan, but with the ineradicable voice and demeanor of rough Queens.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 02:24 PM (noWW6)
The George Jefferson of white folk.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:26 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 29, 2016 02:26 PM (WQMJ4)
I hope he gets carjacked by an angel-dusted crackhead.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:25 PM (zLP1L
i'm glad i wasn't drinking a beverage at the moment Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:27 PM (voOPb)
This decade is 1929-1939 all over again: a long prosperity leads to a
bubble. Bubble collapses. Everybody panics. Blames the incumbent
Republican. Democrat takes over. Passes a mish-mash of legislation and
engages in an orgiastic spending spree. Tepid economic growth followed
by another sharp recession.
And meanwhile the fires around the world begin to burn.
Posted by: Sam
Sweet!
Posted by: Young Bing Crosby at January 29, 2016 02:27 PM (e7T6D)
Remember, a Hilary win is as good as a conservative loss. TO THE ESTABLISHMENT
Sheesh
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (zLP1L)
I would certainly never root for a Hillory victory, but I'm not sure her winning the White House would be a bad thing. She's a truly evil human being, and I believe she would be very ineffective at the job.
While I would like to see the Republican Party destroyed with THIS election, I think a Hillory win would do that quite well too, and at the same time do more damage to the Dem Party than anything the Gopes in Washington have ever done.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 02:27 PM (TOk1P)
it just gets uglier and uglier
New Government Rule Could Make It Harder for You to Buy Furniture
...Consumers use all types of small-dollar loans to help with all kinds of expenses, some of which arise unexpectedly. These various forms of credit give people access to products ranging from appliances and furniture to rent and emergency vehicle repairs. This means Americans could be out of luck next time they need to go buy a new couch, washing machine, or car.
http://dailysignal.com/2016/01/28/this-government-agency-is-crusading-after-small-lenders/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:27 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 29, 2016 02:27 PM (iQIUe)
Of course, most companies are not flush with cash so the money will have to come from somewhere. And that will be from the salaries and raises of men. Many who may actually deserve to be paid more than women due to talent, effort, work habits etc... But pay will be leveled at their expense.
Dumbass pajama boys that vote Dem deserve all the 0.2% raises they will be getting the rest of their lives.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 29, 2016 02:28 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:22 PM (voOPb)
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He definitely is! It's those ineffable NY values shining through.
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 02:28 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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If you can't defund the largest baby killing factory in the world, you can't be trusted with my vote. Which, I am well aware, is worth about as much as the lint I just picked out of my navel.
Posted by: Chi at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (fSuK4)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:25 PM (voOPb)
Getting hung up on ethanol subsidies when they're gently caressing the trigger of QE4, ramping up illegal immigration from the middle fucking east as well as south and central America, using a "traffic stop" to shoot dead a man who stood up politically to bureaucratic overreach, and treating our military men and women as pawns for their international games of grab-ass with the right hand of the devil himself seems a weeeeee bit short-sighted to me.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (xuouz)
The GOP destroyed itself after 2010. And Hilary is Obama in a pantsuit. It will be just as bad, if not worse.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 2
I hope you're right.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (qCMvj)
I disagree regarding the condition of Iraqi Christians during the Bush administration. Carlson's bow tie may well be too tight.
I read that he stopped wearing them recently. Perhaps this contributed to the blood flow to his brain and his consequent insight.
or Blind squirrel, nut, etc.
Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (R1a9g)
Cluebat: if you're still talking 'recovery' 6-7 years down the road? There is no recovery.
This is wise beyond her tender years. If you keep talking about recovery nearly a decade on... its not a recovery.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Lea at January 29, 2016 02:30 PM (lIU4e)
http://tinyurl.com/zrvzt7j
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 29, 2016 02:23 PM (fWAjv)
Too hilarious.
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:30 PM (uz/Pv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (zLP1L)
Everyone hates Hillory. Everyone. Half the country luvs them some mocha Jesus.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 02:30 PM (TOk1P)
still drinks but not to the point he passes out. He has a hot wife he
has been married to for ever, and adult kids who are not bums.
I think he gets a cut of everything ever bet on him in the death pools.
Which means he's very rich.
Posted by: tu3031 at January 29, 2016 02:31 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:31 PM (qCMvj)
Ask them how it was when they were being fed feet first into an industrial shredder before the USA invaded. Or now, with IS hacking their heads off and lighting them on fire.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:31 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 02:32 PM (TxJGV)
Trump-less Fox News Debate Gets Second-Lowest Ratings
The first Republican presidential debate of the season without front-runner Donald Trump generated smaller viewer interest than all but one of this cycle's prior GOP gatherings, according to preliminary Nielsen estimates.
http://www.newsmax.com/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:32 PM (qCMvj)
Ritzy Manhattan, but with the ineradicable voice and demeanor of rough Queens.
And has hired and worked with them for years. If he had screwed them in his business dealings, they'd never back him.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 29, 2016 02:32 PM (SAhpk)
Posted by: chique testing testing at January 29, 2016 02:30 PM (uz/Pv)
This guy is 16. Honestly. Even has a cute teddy bear to show his childish nature.
http://tinyurl.com/hps7lkv
*geeze the West is dumb
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 29, 2016 02:32 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Able Johnson at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (e7T6D)
Yeah, you can guess it blames the sitting governor, who is a Republican. fifty years of Democrat control building the pipes with union guys have nothing to do with it. Two years of a Republican caused it all.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Small Appliance Sale at the Outrage Outlet! 10% Off Gender Blenders! at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (hLRSq)
White House protocol office instructed to develop official groping guidelines and procedures.
Gourmet paste selections at state dinners.
Our enemies laugh themselves to death.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (/f6Nd)
Won't work because there is no lead left for the batteries after 7 years of the greatest guns and ammo salesman.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (XtAzU)
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (r1fLd)
If you can't cut ethanol subsidies you aren't ever going to cut anything.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 29, 2016 02:25 PM (voOPb)
I honestly believe that since Trump isn't driven by ideology or greed or loyalty to the party, he will make changes that will amaze us and give strokes to the establishment.
Trump is driven by ego. When elected, he will be handed a ridiculously bloated, barely functioning bureaucracy. He knows, just as any one of us knows, that making common sense changes will have enormous impact and will make the person in charge look like a genius.
Trump will be able to talk over the heads of the media and the establishment politicians, which will enable him to get the upfront rule changes he will need to fire people and clean house.
I believe this type of positive feedback will have Trump working 16 hour days actually accomplishing obvious things.
And the country will thrive.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2016 02:34 PM (Zs4uk)
hmmm
Pollster Matt Towery: Debate Was 'A Disaster for the Republican Party'
"This was not a good night for the Republican Party, no matter what they think," Towery said. "Donald Trump wasn't playing to Iowa. He was playing to South Carolina."
The Palmetto State holds its primaries on Feb. 20.
"That's what he was doing tonight with these veterans," he told Hayworth. "That's where this race is going to be decided.
"It's going to be decided in South Carolina and the Southern states that we're going to be polling and after that the SCC primary," Towery said, referring to the huge March 1 primary that includes contests in six states in the South.
first I heard this...
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:34 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: P.J. ORourke at January 29, 2016 02:34 PM (e7T6D)
industrial shredder before the USA invaded. Or now, with IS hacking
their heads off and lighting them on fire.
You said that they were doing fine when Bush was in office. That is my point of disagreement .
Strategic negotiations with Muslim "partners" never result in a positive outcome for ethnic and religious minorities.
Saying that the Christians were "fine" under Bush is just facile and untrue.
Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 02:34 PM (R1a9g)
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 02:34 PM (noWW6)
I think there's a lot to this. And the way most people vote is more gut feeling and "F-- it" when they go into the voting booth than issues and policies. Their Union bosses may tell them to vote x, but if their gut says Y, that's where they'll go.
Would it be enough? Not a lot of union guys left these days.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:35 PM (39g3+)
meh
PPP Poll: Clinton Clings to Slim Lead Over Sanders in Iowa
Hillary Clinton is holding onto a slender 8-point lead over rival Bernie Sanders in Iowan for the Democratic Party nomination for president, a new PPP Poll says.
Here's the breakdown:
Hillary Clinton, 48 percent
Bernie Sanders, 40 percent
Martin O'Malley, 7 percent
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:35 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:35 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: steevy at January 29, 2016 02:36 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Yip und 2 Corinthians at January 29, 2016 02:37 PM (e7T6D)
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They're of a class. Not all are unionized.
Posted by: Bigby's Hands, Fingers, Knees, and Toes at January 29, 2016 02:37 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at January 29, 2016 02:32 PM (fWAjv)
Fuck everybody, the Swedish first. That is Judd Apatow level hilarious and I don't even feel bad saying it.
White men aren't your problem, little snowflakes. But white men can't help you fight, round up, and deport these savages either, because that would be xenophobic and I can't square it with my conscience. How many rounds can you fire in a minute?
Good luck.
Fat fucking chance, I'll be drafted into some progressive militia with a patriotic, focus-group-tested name slapped on it and made to clear houses in suburban New Jersey at gunpoint.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:38 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: steevy
As in Venezuela, just blame the corporatists.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 29, 2016 02:38 PM (FkBIv)
It's a shitty race, that hasn't been a forecaster for the Stupid party.
So, if Trump wins or loses Iowa, what dooes it mean?
If Cruz wins, or is close, what does it mean?
If Empress mommom fails to win, or is closely contested by bernie, what does it mean?
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 29, 2016 02:39 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Ron Jeremy at January 29, 2016 02:39 PM (22uju)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:39 PM (qCMvj)
1988. When the establishment reasserted control.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 29, 2016 02:34 PM (noWW6)
Depends on what one means by "destroyed." As a credible alternative to Democrats? Sure, that's long gone. However, they are still foisted up there as the ONLY alternative to Democrats.
That's what I would like to see destroyed.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 29, 2016 02:39 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:29 PM (xuouz)
In 2012, the Dept of Labor listed 383,000 people employed in the ethanol industry in the USA. Although I agree with Ted Cruz's take that the gov. should not be in the business of supporting winners and losers, the fact is that it has propped up this industry with it's stupid green mandate and you will cause a lot of economic harm if you suddenly cut the support out of the industry. It needs to be phased out slowly, not just simply stopped.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 02:39 PM (TKQrK)
You said that they were doing fine when Bush was in office.
No, I said it worked out magnificently for them and for us at home. Huge difference between that and "they're fine." They were free of both Muslim oppression and a tyrant murdering people for disagreeing with him. Rebuilding churches, businesses, lives. When Bush was in office, things were going very well by 2008.
Its what came later that ruined it all, not having a born again Christian in office which was Tucker Carlson's a-historical bend.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:39 PM (39g3+)
And the country will thrive.
Posted by: jwest at January 29, 2016 02:34 PM (Zs4uk)
This is the non-zero-chance upside of a Trump presidency.
It's risky but he has a higher ceiling than any candidate post-Reagan.
Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at January 29, 2016 02:40 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at January 29, 2016 02:40 PM (FtrY1)
If he has a ground game, he wins in Iowa. He wins in NH, barring some disaster. Trump isn't my choice, as I would definitely prefer a Republican like Cruz, but he's far better than Rubio (my bet is he is Veep).
Put Cruz on the SCOTUS; who knows, maybe the Senate will vote for him just to get rid of him.
Posted by: MTF at January 29, 2016 02:40 PM (TxJGV)
I think just having someone in office who knows how to run a bureaucracy and appoint folks for quality of skill rather than obedience to dogma would be a pretty radical change after the Obama years.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:41 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, you can guess it blames the sitting governor, who is a Republican. fifty years of Democrat control building the pipes with union guys have nothing to do with it. Two years of a Republican caused it all.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:33 PM (39g3+)
Not to mention that the emergency manager who signed off on changing the water supply was a black Democrat.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 02:42 PM (TKQrK)
I'm no fan of Trump but only the most frothing rabid anti-Trump extremists were even mentioning that nonsense.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:43 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Rapey Bear... famous! at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (e7T6D)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 29, 2016 02:45 PM (39g3+)
When Bush was in office, things were going very well by 2008.
2007.12.11 Iraq Basra 2 0 Islamic radicals kill a Christian brother and sister, then dump their bodies at a garbage site.
2007.12.09 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A Christian girl is shot to death at a marketplace by Islamists.
2007.09.28 Iraq Qaraqush 1 0 A Christian college student is shot nine times by Islamic terrorists.
2008.11.12 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two Christian sisters are shot to death inside their home by Muslim militants.
2008.10.12 Iraq Mosul 1 1 A Christian business owner is gunned down in his music store by Islamic fundamentalists.
2008.10.22 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two Christians, a father and son, are shot to death by Islamic radicals.
2008.10.11 Iraq Mosul 3 0 The bodies of three Christians are discovered following their abduction by Islamic radicals.
2008.10.10 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two Christians are shot to death by Islamists at a roadblock after being forced to identify themselves.
2008.10.08 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two more Christians are murdered by Muslim extremists in separate attacks.
2008.10.07 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Islamic extremists enter a Christian pharmacy and kill the owner.
2008.10.07 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A Christian man and his elderly father are shot to death at their workplace by Religion of Peace radicals. \
2008.10.06 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A disabled Christian is abducted from his shop by Islamists and then shot to death.
I respectfully disagree.
Posted by: Mortimer at January 29, 2016 02:48 PM (R1a9g)
1. Is a restraining order the same thing as a personal protection order?
2. You all realize that this means if you already have a valid carry
license, it is now null and void because of the new/old rule. Simply
because a judge determined that you threw a sock in the direction of
your wife during an argument.
I say this because PPO's and restraining orders are issued with
little evidence because the burden of proof is on the accused, not the
accuser.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 01:45 PM (TKQrK)
Restraining order is the same as a personal protection order. In Virginia, anyone can ask for a restraining order with a claim of violence inflicted or threatened and be issued a 30 day ex-parte temporary restraining order. An individuals's ability to possess firearms is NOT affected by such temporary orders. Within 30 days, the person requesting the restraining order has to go back to court and prove their allegations in a hearing that includes both parties. In Virginia, the burden is on the person asking for the restraining order. If the court feels that a restraining order is appropriate, then they issue one for (usually) a year. During that year, the person restrained may not possess firearms.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 02:50 PM (OrI3J)
depends if you're talking about old school America or The Land of the New Normal, I think.
When they marched through the institutions they didn't miss much.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 29, 2016 02:51 PM (Z8DIA)
In 2012, the Dept of Labor listed 383,000 people
employed in the ethanol industry in the USA. Although I agree with Ted
Cruz's take that the gov. should not be in the business of supporting
winners and losers, the fact is that it has propped up this industry
with it's stupid green mandate and you will cause a lot of economic harm
if you suddenly cut the support out of the industry. It needs to be
phased out slowly, not just simply stopped.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2016 02:39 PM (TKQrK)
Cruz is calling for a (quick) phase-out but your reasoning does not take into account the money forcefully removed from every American's pocket by government ethanol mandates.
Your argument is also akin to arguing that a man allowed to rob a bank once should be allowed to continue to rob that bank (of other people's money) because otherwise you would make him unemployed. I am being robbed and I don't have sympathy for the employment status of the robbers.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 02:57 PM (OrI3J)
The first Republican presidential debate of the season without
front-runner Donald Trump generated smaller viewer interest than all but
one of this cycle's prior GOP gatherings, according to preliminary
Nielsen estimates.
http://www.newsmax.com/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at January 29, 2016 02:32 PM (qCMvj)
Rating that don't appear to be driven by the Trumplessness of the debate... I posted this on the second morning thread but i will repost here.
Ratings for debates fall as the debate cycle happens. 23 million people watched CNN's first debate but only 11 million watched CNN's second debate. Similarly, 24 million watched the first Fox News debate (the first debate of the cycle so I would expect it to have the highest ratings) but only 13 million watched the second Fox news debate. Those numbers do not support the theory that Trump Trumped all over the debate by not showing up.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 29, 2016 03:05 PM (OrI3J)
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