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Annoying, and Predictable: Establishment Puts Nikki Haley Up to Attack Trump Rather Than Obama
When you ask "why are you ignoring us and destroying us," this is why.
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Oneth?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 13, 2016 11:50 AM (LUgeY)
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I'll fetch the others.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 13, 2016 11:50 AM (LUgeY)
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After an hour of listening to a pompous blowhard cry about his ineffectiveness at getting me on the same page as he over the last seven years, Nikki Haley came on. And at heart, reiterated the same complaint: that those who are angry for not being listened to by the party that claims to work for their aims...
...should shut up.
My thanks to the Republican Party for having wasted my tax dollars, campaign donations, litigation, Constitution- and most importantly, copious amounts of of the limited time I have on this rock.
And this morning, out come the rank and file of the establishment to tell me that if didn't like Haley's speech, I'm a racist Trump fan.
Awesome. Just fucking awesome.
...should shut up.
My thanks to the Republican Party for having wasted my tax dollars, campaign donations, litigation, Constitution- and most importantly, copious amounts of of the limited time I have on this rock.
And this morning, out come the rank and file of the establishment to tell me that if didn't like Haley's speech, I'm a racist Trump fan.
Awesome. Just fucking awesome.
Posted by: Fringe at January 13, 2016 11:50 AM (+GIZJ)
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Isn't the purpose of the SOTU response to, you know, respond to the SOTU instead of pissing off the base?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 11:51 AM (RD7QR)
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Yeah, saw that .... pissed me the hell off.... Even more than I was pissed before...
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:52 AM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 13, 2016 11:53 AM (4ErVI)
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But seriously, did anybody even watch O's dumb speech last night, much less the rebuttal?
A mere political sideshow, at best, I venture.
Trump will soldier on merrily, poll numbers unaffected by the attack.
A mere political sideshow, at best, I venture.
Trump will soldier on merrily, poll numbers unaffected by the attack.
Posted by: zombie at January 13, 2016 11:53 AM (jBuUi)
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At a time when people are searching for leadership the GOP gives us identity politics and more chiding of our own party members.
You
want to know what people dislike about the GOP? Why a record number of
people are foregoing the party? Look no further than this agitprop which
sounded like a commercial for everything that people hate about
Washington.
Here is an epic opportunity to differentiate the GOP,
to talk about our vision for the future, to speak perhaps on the
imprudence of Iran illegally holding our sailors. Instead we get
censuring of our own party and a not so veiled shot at the current
primary frontrunner.
Honestly GOP, are you kidding me?
On
one side, we have a self-absorbed man more endeared with the sound of
his voice than those he is supposed to serve and disappointed that the
"consent of the governed" and "separation of powers" prevents him from
imposing his personal will on the people. On the other side, we have
people who have also forgotten they exist to serve a plurality of the
people's will, and constantly castigate us that we should be more
compliant with their innately imperious, consultant drafted, lobbyist
approved, inside-the-Beltway vision for us.
I've grown a little sick of the cowards and condemnation from politicians who substitute sophism for sapience.
At a time when people are searching for leadership the GOP gives us identity politics and more chiding of our own party members.
You
want to know what people dislike about the GOP? Why a record number of
people are foregoing the party? Look no further than this agitprop which
sounded like a commercial for everything that people hate about
Washington.
Here is an epic opportunity to differentiate the GOP,
to talk about our vision for the future, to speak perhaps on the
imprudence of Iran illegally holding our sailors. Instead we get
censuring of our own party and a not so veiled shot at the current
primary frontrunner.
Honestly GOP, are you kidding me?
On
one side, we have a self-absorbed man more endeared with the sound of
his voice than those he is supposed to serve and disappointed that the
"consent of the governed" and "separation of powers" prevents him from
imposing his personal will on the people. On the other side, we have
people who have also forgotten they exist to serve a plurality of the
people's will, and constantly castigate us that we should be more
compliant with their innately imperious, consultant drafted, lobbyist
approved, inside-the-Beltway vision for us.
I've grown a little sick of the cowards and condemnation from politicians who substitute sophism for sapience.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 11:53 AM (GGCsk)
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It seems logical to me that a rebuttal to the SOTU should, you know...be a rebuttal to the SOTU, which it wasn't really.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (M+RRn)
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Add her to the long, long list of those who we helped elect and now shit on us. No surprise, her response was approved by Ryan and Tortuga McConnell.
Posted by: Countrysquire, feeling reasonably fresh down there at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (eEBON)
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Isn't the purpose of the SOTU response to, you know, respond to the SOTU instead of pissing off the base?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 11:51 AM (RD7QR)
You must be old fashioned like me?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 11:51 AM (RD7QR)
You must be old fashioned like me?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (wtvvX)
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They don't get it. They never will.
Posted by: turbodan at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (o8E7u)
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I'm not going to get despondent or disillusioned and not vote so you fxckers I n the GOPE can stop wasting your time trying to depress WWC voter turnout
I'll crawl over broken glass to pull that lever and you can believe it won't be for anyone that tells me my time is over and I better get used to it
I'll crawl over broken glass to pull that lever and you can believe it won't be for anyone that tells me my time is over and I better get used to it
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (qxNrP)
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Trump/Cruz 2016. Yeah, baby.
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (Fmupd)
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Wow, the topic we are blowing up the threads on now with longbow vs crossbow tempers.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (t2KH5)
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To further elevate My blood pressure, that slime ball Bush has moved into third place behind Trump and Cruz.... WTF?
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)
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Proof of what many of what us have been saying for years....
42% of the Electorate is not in EITHER political party... they are registered as Independent...
That number is greater by 13% than EITHER of the political parties.
Yet they retain total control over Politics and the Federal Government... because they have used their power to put LAWS in place, to perpetuate the power of the two parties.
They are not on your side... they are on THEIR side. They are on the side of Washington DC.
42% of the Electorate is not in EITHER political party... they are registered as Independent...
That number is greater by 13% than EITHER of the political parties.
Yet they retain total control over Politics and the Federal Government... because they have used their power to put LAWS in place, to perpetuate the power of the two parties.
They are not on your side... they are on THEIR side. They are on the side of Washington DC.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (wtvvX)
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So Obama's Chief of Staff just called her SOTU agitprop "admirable".
Honestly. it's going to be really enjoyable crushing the establishment toadies in the next election.
Honestly. it's going to be really enjoyable crushing the establishment toadies in the next election.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (GGCsk)
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Trump is the president in waiting. the sooner everyone adjusts to that the better it will be, for them.
Posted by: x at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (57fhp)
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Banzaiiiiiii!!!!!!!!
Fuck you, Career Ambitions!
Now, you diiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!111!!!111!!!!!
Banzaiiiiiii!!!!!!!!
Fuck you, Career Ambitions!
Now, you diiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!111!!!111!!!!!
Posted by: Nikki Haley in Her Kamikaze Illegal Immigration Zero During Last Night's Power Dive! at January 13, 2016 11:56 AM (0cMkb)
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>>"I'm sure that having Haley dedicate her SOTU response to Trump was
cathartic, but it does increase his chances of winning the nomination."
Yup.
GOP: Bound and determined to give you a Pyrric victory (help Hillary win) instead of a GOP victory with an unapproved candidate, because they know better.
cathartic, but it does increase his chances of winning the nomination."
Yup.
GOP: Bound and determined to give you a Pyrric victory (help Hillary win) instead of a GOP victory with an unapproved candidate, because they know better.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 13, 2016 11:56 AM (NOIQH)
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At one point I worried about what would come next if the GOP collapsed but I've concluded that it doesn't matter anymore. Bring on the National Party of Carthaginian Solutions.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 11:56 AM (RD7QR)
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Our Lime Icees are on sale today, made with fresh rainwater like the kind you just felt dripping down your back.
Thank You! Come Again.
Thank You! Come Again.
Posted by: Nikbobby Jindley at January 13, 2016 11:56 AM (53yqf)
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That's why I like Angelo Codevilla's breakdown of "the ruling class" vs the "the country class". The ruling class has control of both parties, which is why they will fight tooth and nail to prevent the forming of a third party. Then they would have to work at taking it over too.
Posted by: Paladin at January 13, 2016 11:56 AM (LTquJ)
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she acknowledged today that her speech, as is customary, was approved by party leaders before she delivered it. It was a group effort.
Again BB said Ryan wrote it. Of course it was approved by the leadership.
Again BB said Ryan wrote it. Of course it was approved by the leadership.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 13, 2016 11:56 AM (t2KH5)
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Is this actually a ploy to screw Cruz? Go after Trump, Trump siphons votes off of Cruz.
Hey, it's not the dumbest thing about this election cycle.
Hey, it's not the dumbest thing about this election cycle.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 13, 2016 11:56 AM (XiVKO)
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Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 11:53 AM (GGCsk)
I think they're simply incapable of adjusting to the new realities. Same with Hillary. Her and Yeb are running 1990s campaigns. The Old Guards of the party can't adjust either. It's the old saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks. They're so invested in the way things used to be that they can't change.
I think they're simply incapable of adjusting to the new realities. Same with Hillary. Her and Yeb are running 1990s campaigns. The Old Guards of the party can't adjust either. It's the old saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks. They're so invested in the way things used to be that they can't change.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (4ErVI)
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If you like your Republican Party, you can keep your Republican Party.
Posted by: Bruce at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (8ikIW)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (ODxAs)
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You can just cut and paste three quarters of the art thread comments into this one. Long story short -- Nikki Haley jumped the shark.
End of political aspirations except in the highly anticipated, underwhelmingly popular Jeb Bush administration.
End of political aspirations except in the highly anticipated, underwhelmingly popular Jeb Bush administration.
Posted by: Ben Dover (You know it's coming) at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (fbovC)
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Him: "I'm leaving you."
Her: "Leaving me? But why???"
Him: "Because you're verbally abusive and narcissistic."
Her: "DON'T YOU DARE DUMP ME you goddamn tiny-dick weasel, I'm feeling really fragile right now and just might kill myself if you do!!"
Her: "Leaving me? But why???"
Him: "Because you're verbally abusive and narcissistic."
Her: "DON'T YOU DARE DUMP ME you goddamn tiny-dick weasel, I'm feeling really fragile right now and just might kill myself if you do!!"
Posted by: zombie at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (jBuUi)
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Sorry, Governor, you cannot simultaneously decry "angry voices" and "the role Republicans have played in the country's problems."
Today's political class is just a bunch of people who want their official trappings, a cushy follow-on gig, and everything else be damned. I even believe that cretins like LBJ, Jimmah, and Michael Effing Dukakis has some foundational belief in their duty to the country. Today? Not a damn one of them.
Let it burn.
Today's political class is just a bunch of people who want their official trappings, a cushy follow-on gig, and everything else be damned. I even believe that cretins like LBJ, Jimmah, and Michael Effing Dukakis has some foundational belief in their duty to the country. Today? Not a damn one of them.
Let it burn.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (659DL)
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>>To further elevate My blood pressure, that slime ball Bush has moved into third place behind Trump and Cruz.... WTF?
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)
<<
Relax. He's now at about 10%.
Nobody is going to vote for Mumbles. Except perhaps Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and Reince Priebus. Not even his dad.
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)
<<
Relax. He's now at about 10%.
Nobody is going to vote for Mumbles. Except perhaps Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and Reince Priebus. Not even his dad.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (GGCsk)
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Shorter Haley -- You have nothing to fear from a Hillary presidency, and Trump is a big poopyhead.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (gyKtp)
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I would have hoped that the story today was that Obama went Full Carter (never go Full Carter) and gave his last SotU with Iran holding American hostages.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (1xUj/)
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If you like your Republican Party, you can keep your Republican Party.
They can. I changed My Registration to Independent months ago....
They can. I changed My Registration to Independent months ago....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:58 AM (/dSsq)
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Its like in The Punisher when John Travolta was killing Will Patton
Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at January 13, 2016 11:58 AM (3ZtZW)
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The Outrage Outlet thanks the bipartisan team of Obama and the GOP. Thanks to their efforts the mode of the country is "incandescent" and "gibbering mad" thus leading to the best holiday season in the Outrage Outlet's history.
Truly, I could not have done it without their efforts. And to you, my valued customer base, please continue letting these people drive your emotions and punch all of your buttons at once.
Thank you.
Truly, I could not have done it without their efforts. And to you, my valued customer base, please continue letting these people drive your emotions and punch all of your buttons at once.
Thank you.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 11:58 AM (hLRSq)
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>>she acknowledged today that her speech, as is customary, was approved
by party leaders before she delivered it. It was a group effort.<<
A group of circus clowns who don't even realize their careers are just about over.
by party leaders before she delivered it. It was a group effort.<<
A group of circus clowns who don't even realize their careers are just about over.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (GGCsk)
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Trump will self destruct.
Cruz is being taken out by the media.
That will mean it's going to be ¡Bush! The Third.
Cruz is being taken out by the media.
That will mean it's going to be ¡Bush! The Third.
Posted by: Benson, C.46 at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (ZoqJa)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (zOTsN)
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To further elevate My blood pressure, that slime ball Bush has moved into third place behind Trump and Cruz.... WTF?
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)
Donna, what poll has Bush in "third" place. NH and Iowa have Bush somewhere in the single digits, twenty to thirty points behind Trump and Cruz.
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)
Donna, what poll has Bush in "third" place. NH and Iowa have Bush somewhere in the single digits, twenty to thirty points behind Trump and Cruz.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (O0Kvv)
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She did us a public service. It's important to see their stupidity, fear, contempt and corruption come more out in the open.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (s/yC1)
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Nikki Haley. I am glad to see she has recovered from the horrible confederate flag episode which traumatized the nation and her state.
Oh the horror....the horror....
O.o
Oh the horror....the horror....
O.o
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (RV3VA)
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Same topic, different thread.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (kKHcp)
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I changed back from indy to gop just to vote in the primary
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (qxNrP)
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She did us a public service. It's important to see their stupidity, fear, contempt and corruption come more out in the open.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (s/yC1)
Yes but I am constantly surprised seeing how deep the rot goes. Sigh
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (s/yC1)
Yes but I am constantly surprised seeing how deep the rot goes. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (659DL)
Posted by: north and judd at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (0KgAM)
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In effect it was a southern governor giving a farewell speech to a national audience.
Posted by: Ben Dover (You know it's coming) at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (fbovC)
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mood of the country
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (zOTsN)
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20 So Obama's Chief of Staff just called her SOTU agitprop "admirable".
Honestly. it's going to be really enjoyable crushing the establishment toadies in the next election.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (GGCsk)
Yup.... its just like the Omnibus bill where Dems came out laughing about how they had rolled the Repubs...
Honestly. it's going to be really enjoyable crushing the establishment toadies in the next election.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (GGCsk)
Yup.... its just like the Omnibus bill where Dems came out laughing about how they had rolled the Repubs...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (f7rv6)
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37 I would have hoped that the story today was that Obama went Full Carter (never go Full Carter) and gave his last SotU with Iran holding American hostages.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (1xUj/)
We are assured by the administration that it was just a friend doing a solid for some wayward sailors. Pay no attention to the hands on the heads.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, let all the children boogie at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (1xUj/)
We are assured by the administration that it was just a friend doing a solid for some wayward sailors. Pay no attention to the hands on the heads.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (RD7QR)
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I do believe that it was a tactical mistake to use this opportunity to go after Trump.
I appreciate that she is speaking generally supportively of immigrants and not demonizing them all as "invaders" or terrorists or third-world mouth-breathers.
But she could have done that in a manner that didn't directly attack Trump as she did. As much as I loathe the guy, that kind of stuff can wait for when the primary season reaches her state.
I appreciate that she is speaking generally supportively of immigrants and not demonizing them all as "invaders" or terrorists or third-world mouth-breathers.
But she could have done that in a manner that didn't directly attack Trump as she did. As much as I loathe the guy, that kind of stuff can wait for when the primary season reaches her state.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (uZNvH)
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Same topic, different thread.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (kKHcp)
Yup because:
RINOs to the left, SHILLs to the right
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (kKHcp)
Yup because:
RINOs to the left, SHILLs to the right
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (DUoqb)
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Did Obama stop using the term ISIL?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (FkBIv)
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Because Trump is an idiot and a disgrace to conservatives! What's wrong with you people. Coulter wants Trump to deport Haley. Is this what we have become? God help us.
Posted by: DonKeyhoti at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (64m/e)
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There's a phenomenon at work in our nation that I first encountered with marketing people. They only reached out to demographics with high response rates. This demographic consisted of *existing customers* making their efforts nothing more than make-work potemkin ass-covering.
-The government only taxes the people that will pay.
-Businesses only hire the people willing to settle for part time status.
-Apple markets their products to the idiots who already own every other apple product.
-The president only makes demands of countries that will comply.
This is myopic, practically suicidal behavior. Unfortunately, it's also been effective in changing the function of American minds.
We're frustrated and looking for a way to effect political change. If the GOP continues to promise the moon and deliver a kick to the pills, then the myopic, practically suicidal decision to destroy the only power group we actually have any influence over will cease to seem like a foolish decision.
Our betters have 10 months to persuade The Unwashed Base otherwise.
-The government only taxes the people that will pay.
-Businesses only hire the people willing to settle for part time status.
-Apple markets their products to the idiots who already own every other apple product.
-The president only makes demands of countries that will comply.
This is myopic, practically suicidal behavior. Unfortunately, it's also been effective in changing the function of American minds.
We're frustrated and looking for a way to effect political change. If the GOP continues to promise the moon and deliver a kick to the pills, then the myopic, practically suicidal decision to destroy the only power group we actually have any influence over will cease to seem like a foolish decision.
Our betters have 10 months to persuade The Unwashed Base otherwise.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (xuouz)
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Is it me, or do others find Rubio seems like a short Nixon? Just a little too tightly controlled... finds more frisson in the cover-up than the transgression?
Posted by: Barry Manitoba at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (pjP2B)
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I won't be ignored Dan
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (qxNrP)
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OT/ but kind of fits into this Did You all see the pictures Iran released of the hostages? How humiliating.... They put the Woman in a head scarf... Thanks obama, and Haley... You can go fuck yourself....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (f7rv6)
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54 it wasnt a STOU response
it was a STFU response
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (zOTsN)
It was a SOTU endorsement.
54 it wasnt a STOU response
it was a STFU response
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:00 PM (zOTsN)
It was a SOTU endorsement.
Posted by: buzzion at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (zt+N6)
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Donna, what poll has Bush in "third" place. NH and Iowa have Bush somewhere in the single digits, twenty to thirty points behind Trump and Cruz.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (O0Kvv)
Stop trying to calm things down! I want everyone screaming at the top of their lungs for the next year!
Don't listen to Jen! They are all in cahoots to make you their personal sandwich making slaves! Be OUTRAGED!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (O0Kvv)
Stop trying to calm things down! I want everyone screaming at the top of their lungs for the next year!
Don't listen to Jen! They are all in cahoots to make you their personal sandwich making slaves! Be OUTRAGED!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:02 PM (hLRSq)
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Nikki Haley jumped the shark for me with the Confederate Flag issue.
The state flag had ZERO to do with that shooting yet she so wanted a pat on the head from the Beltway. Had she simply waited 48 hours that dumb issue would have died down
I do think Ann Coulter hit the nail on the head when she said immigrants who come here simply don't care much about American culture and history and are happy to shit on it if it advances them in anyway.
The state flag had ZERO to do with that shooting yet she so wanted a pat on the head from the Beltway. Had she simply waited 48 hours that dumb issue would have died down
I do think Ann Coulter hit the nail on the head when she said immigrants who come here simply don't care much about American culture and history and are happy to shit on it if it advances them in anyway.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:02 PM (ys5Qo)
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Ryan is going to push Amnesty....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (f7rv6)
You never had any doubts about that did you?
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (f7rv6)
You never had any doubts about that did you?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2016 12:03 PM (DUoqb)
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They can. I changed My Registration to Independent months ago....
The FLaccid State has closed primaries, else I'd be an "I" too, like I was back home in Alabama.
The FLaccid State has closed primaries, else I'd be an "I" too, like I was back home in Alabama.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 13, 2016 12:03 PM (LUgeY)
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You can just cut and paste three quarters of the art thread comments into this one. Long story short -- Nikki Haley jumped the shark.
End of political aspirations except in the highly anticipated, underwhelmingly popular Jeb Bush administration.
Posted by: Ben Dover (You know it's coming) at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (fbovC)
Haley last night opined that we shouldn't be influenced by the cries of fearful opinion(I'm paraphrasing).
But that didn't stop her from ordering the confederate flag taken down and the possible removal of confederate generals statues being removed after she starting bawling about the church members being shot by a deranged teenager. No, let's not be influenced by the cries of the fearful.
End of political aspirations except in the highly anticipated, underwhelmingly popular Jeb Bush administration.
Posted by: Ben Dover (You know it's coming) at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (fbovC)
Haley last night opined that we shouldn't be influenced by the cries of fearful opinion(I'm paraphrasing).
But that didn't stop her from ordering the confederate flag taken down and the possible removal of confederate generals statues being removed after she starting bawling about the church members being shot by a deranged teenager. No, let's not be influenced by the cries of the fearful.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 12:03 PM (O0Kvv)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:03 PM (zOTsN)
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67 Donna, what poll has Bush in "third" place. NH and Iowa have Bush somewhere in the single digits, twenty to thirty points behind Trump and Cruz.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (O0Kvv)
Reuters...
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (O0Kvv)
Reuters...
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:03 PM (/dSsq)
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Yeah nothing settles down angry base better than Calm down honey
Wait what did you say? Calm down?!
Wait what did you say? Calm down?!
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 12:03 PM (qxNrP)
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Screw Nikki Haley and Screw team stupid.
I'm not in favor of any immigration from the third world shitholes of the world whether or not they are hard working.
I simply do not want any more, Indians, Asians, Africans or Latinos or Muslims immigrating legally and definetly not illegally.
We are a country of 325 million people with nearly 100 million people out of the workforce with nearly 20 trillion in debt with no end in site with pathetic job growth and a world economy on the brink of collapse.
These groups historically vote 2:1-4:1 for Democrats. And we have 32+ years of data to back that up - They are not going to be flipped.
I want immigration virtually eliminated with exceptions for only the most exceptional and benificial to this country.
I want our immigration to revert back to pre-65 immigration act and reoriented back to the first world, Europe and the Anglosphere.
Sorry if that offends Nikki, team stupid or anyone else but screw that shit, play times over and in the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, it's a time of choosing and your either on my side or your not.
Apparently some are choosing the other side.
I'm not in favor of any immigration from the third world shitholes of the world whether or not they are hard working.
I simply do not want any more, Indians, Asians, Africans or Latinos or Muslims immigrating legally and definetly not illegally.
We are a country of 325 million people with nearly 100 million people out of the workforce with nearly 20 trillion in debt with no end in site with pathetic job growth and a world economy on the brink of collapse.
These groups historically vote 2:1-4:1 for Democrats. And we have 32+ years of data to back that up - They are not going to be flipped.
I want immigration virtually eliminated with exceptions for only the most exceptional and benificial to this country.
I want our immigration to revert back to pre-65 immigration act and reoriented back to the first world, Europe and the Anglosphere.
Sorry if that offends Nikki, team stupid or anyone else but screw that shit, play times over and in the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, it's a time of choosing and your either on my side or your not.
Apparently some are choosing the other side.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (uWjKl)
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Did Haley change after the Charleston shootings, or was she always kind of a squish and I never realized it?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (gA69l)
Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (3ZtZW)
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70 They can. I changed My Registration to Independent months ago....
The FLaccid State has closed primaries, else I'd be an "I" too, like I was back home in Alabama.
I live in CA. so My vote is symbolic....
The FLaccid State has closed primaries, else I'd be an "I" too, like I was back home in Alabama.
I live in CA. so My vote is symbolic....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (/dSsq)
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60 Because Trump is an idiot and a disgrace to conservatives! What's wrong with you people. Coulter wants Trump to deport Haley. Is this what we have become? God help us.
Posted by: DonKeyhoti at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (64m/e)
Concern Status: Noted.
Posted by: DonKeyhoti at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (64m/e)
Concern Status: Noted.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (i4P2a)
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I love how Ace destroys Rubio on Twitter.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (4ErVI)
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Haley last night opined that we shouldn't be influenced by the cries of fearful opinion(I'm paraphrasing).
Respect for the Constitution: Extremism
Acknowledging facts: Hatred
Disagreeing on policy: Racism
Noting the obvious: Fearful opinion
Respect for the Constitution: Extremism
Acknowledging facts: Hatred
Disagreeing on policy: Racism
Noting the obvious: Fearful opinion
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (659DL)
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This is a signal to the base...
Ryan is going to push Amnesty....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (f7rv6)
Thank you Speaker Ryan! This will get the populace to spit blood out of their ears! This will totally not take away Donald Trump's signature issue! The dizzying spiral of conspiratorial theorizing will mean astounding business at the Outrage Outlet!
*wipes away tears of joy*
It has never been a better time to be a small businessman in America.
Ryan is going to push Amnesty....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (f7rv6)
Thank you Speaker Ryan! This will get the populace to spit blood out of their ears! This will totally not take away Donald Trump's signature issue! The dizzying spiral of conspiratorial theorizing will mean astounding business at the Outrage Outlet!
*wipes away tears of joy*
It has never been a better time to be a small businessman in America.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:06 PM (hLRSq)
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Sacred honor compels me to say that the mf-ing gop really makes me want to join the 'vote trump to punish the mf-ing gop' crowd.
Sacred honor compels me to say that the mf-ing gop really makes me want to join the 'vote trump to punish the mf-ing gop' crowd.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 13, 2016 12:06 PM (ODxAs)
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I tuned in very briefly to see Steny Hoyer looking wasted and about to pass out next to Pelosi, Mc Cain and other Vichy R's clapping like seals for Obama's lies, and Obama himself spouting one lie after another and I couldn't take it anymore.
The only good news of the night was Rep. Steve King of Iowa walking out of the STFU saying that he wasn't going to be lectured to.
The only good news of the night was Rep. Steve King of Iowa walking out of the STFU saying that he wasn't going to be lectured to.
Posted by: Cheri at January 13, 2016 12:06 PM (oiNtH)
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I was waiting for the rebuttal-rebuttal tweet from Trump - "Nikki, where's my sammich?"
Posted by: Roy at January 13, 2016 12:06 PM (VndSC)
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9 It seems logical to me that a rebuttal to the SOTU should, you know...be a rebuttal to the SOTU, which it wasn't really.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (M+RRn)
There you go, being all sensible.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2016 11:54 AM (M+RRn)
There you go, being all sensible.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 13, 2016 12:06 PM (kpqmD)
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64 OT/ but kind of fits into this Did You all see the pictures Iran released of the hostages? How humiliating.... They put the Woman in a head scarf... Thanks obama, and Haley... You can go fuck yourself....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (/dSsq)
And what the Hell was a woman doing on in a Small Boat Unit in the first place... in an ISLAMIC area?
SBU's are front line units... almost always in crappy places with limited support... they go up RIVERS and such...
You want to destroy the US Military???? Have a female Sailor captured and Raped.... and then do nothing (which IS what will happen with this gutless administration)....
Its sad that those who push Darwin on us in school, don't understand that Humans are also Darwinian creatures... and that genetic programming does exist.... and the ramifications OF that Genetic programming...
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (/dSsq)
And what the Hell was a woman doing on in a Small Boat Unit in the first place... in an ISLAMIC area?
SBU's are front line units... almost always in crappy places with limited support... they go up RIVERS and such...
You want to destroy the US Military???? Have a female Sailor captured and Raped.... and then do nothing (which IS what will happen with this gutless administration)....
Its sad that those who push Darwin on us in school, don't understand that Humans are also Darwinian creatures... and that genetic programming does exist.... and the ramifications OF that Genetic programming...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:07 PM (f7rv6)
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81 This is still making me scratch my head. Why would she and they do this?
Why?
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (i4P2a)
Because they're the plausible deniability contingent of the the transnational socialist movement.
Why?
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (i4P2a)
Because they're the plausible deniability contingent of the the transnational socialist movement.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 13, 2016 12:07 PM (xuouz)
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Is it me, or do others find Rubio seems like a short Nixon? Just a little too tightly controlled... finds more frisson in the cover-up than the transgression?
Posted by: Barry Manitoba at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (pjP2B)
Not just you. I think he needs to be kept away from power.
Posted by: Barry Manitoba at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (pjP2B)
Not just you. I think he needs to be kept away from power.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 12:07 PM (s/yC1)
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El Rushbo. This should be good.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:07 PM (HMt16)
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Hey Hiawatha, maybe point your arrows toward the Democrats once in a while.
Wait, is Haley a casino Indian or a Slurpee Indian?
I denounce myself.
Wait, is Haley a casino Indian or a Slurpee Indian?
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:07 PM (gA69l)
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Flagged out of the race before she even got out of the garage.
Just how long does NASCAR assimilation take in SC?
Just how long does NASCAR assimilation take in SC?
Posted by: DaveA at January 13, 2016 12:07 PM (DL2i+)
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I was waiting for the rebuttal-rebuttal tweet from Trump - "Nikki, where's my sammich?"
Posted by: Roy at January 13, 2016 12:06 PM (VndSC)
He already said she has asked him for money in the past
Posted by: Roy at January 13, 2016 12:06 PM (VndSC)
He already said she has asked him for money in the past
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2016 12:07 PM (DUoqb)
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This is still making me scratch my head. Why would she and they do this?
They are out of touch. Severely. Just as you know who refuses to acknowledge the Canae outcomes for his party in congressional and state elections, the GOPe cannot recognize that the "anger" they so often warn about is directed at them, too.
They are out of touch. Severely. Just as you know who refuses to acknowledge the Canae outcomes for his party in congressional and state elections, the GOPe cannot recognize that the "anger" they so often warn about is directed at them, too.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (659DL)
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Team stupids "response" to the SOTU.
Stolen from a faceless commenter:
- Trump is bad.
- We can fix illegal immigration by making more immigration legal.
- It is our obligation to fulfill the dreams of foreigners who want to come here.
- We Republicans blew it in some way or other, but let's not say exactly what or how. In the meantime, please don't vote for Trump to make up for it, because I promise this time we'll keep our promises.
The GOP is a useless pile of junk.
Trump/Cruz 2016 - FUCK YOU, WA
Stolen from a faceless commenter:
- Trump is bad.
- We can fix illegal immigration by making more immigration legal.
- It is our obligation to fulfill the dreams of foreigners who want to come here.
- We Republicans blew it in some way or other, but let's not say exactly what or how. In the meantime, please don't vote for Trump to make up for it, because I promise this time we'll keep our promises.
The GOP is a useless pile of junk.
Trump/Cruz 2016 - FUCK YOU, WA
Posted by: Kreplach at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (uWjKl)
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But she could have done that in a manner that didn't directly attack Trump as she did. As much as I loathe the guy, that kind of stuff can wait for when the primary season reaches her state.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (uZNvH)
Trump was interviewed this morning on F&F. He was asked about Haley.
He said she didn't have any problem asking him to donate money to her campaign when she was running for governor. And he gave her a lot of money. Now that she isn't running, she has no problem attacking him.
He kind of laughed and said something about wondering if she will be asking for campaign donations again.
He then added that he is doing well in SC, with a double digit lead there. And that she might want to note that, considering those are her constituents.
Gotta love Trump.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (uZNvH)
Trump was interviewed this morning on F&F. He was asked about Haley.
He said she didn't have any problem asking him to donate money to her campaign when she was running for governor. And he gave her a lot of money. Now that she isn't running, she has no problem attacking him.
He kind of laughed and said something about wondering if she will be asking for campaign donations again.
He then added that he is doing well in SC, with a double digit lead there. And that she might want to note that, considering those are her constituents.
Gotta love Trump.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (O0Kvv)
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Haley said Republicans also need "to look in the mirror" and own up for their role in the nation's failures.
I think when Republicans look in the mirror, all they can think is, "Who is that handsome, pragmatic politician looking back at me and what can he do to help Obama today?"
I think when Republicans look in the mirror, all they can think is, "Who is that handsome, pragmatic politician looking back at me and what can he do to help Obama today?"
Posted by: V the K at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (O7MnT)
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>>Haley said Republicans also need to look in the mirror and own up for their role in the nations failure<<
Bwahahahahaha.
If they did that there wouldn't be a single Republican left in Washington.
Oh- and Haley...do you own a mirror?
For the last seven years we've been taking it up the squeakhole as Republicans stood by while the president and Democrats were eating our lunch.
Then, we vote in a Republican Majority and they start launching pejoratives and wagging fingers at the people who just elected them.
Which, they couldn't, by the way, find the stones to do to the president and Democrats
*BLINK*
Now Haley joins this chorus of saps when people finally start moving towards candidates who are the epitome of everything they've been seeking for the last seven years.
I don't even know what to say.
Bwahahahahaha.
If they did that there wouldn't be a single Republican left in Washington.
Oh- and Haley...do you own a mirror?
For the last seven years we've been taking it up the squeakhole as Republicans stood by while the president and Democrats were eating our lunch.
Then, we vote in a Republican Majority and they start launching pejoratives and wagging fingers at the people who just elected them.
Which, they couldn't, by the way, find the stones to do to the president and Democrats
*BLINK*
Now Haley joins this chorus of saps when people finally start moving towards candidates who are the epitome of everything they've been seeking for the last seven years.
I don't even know what to say.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (GGCsk)
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Maybe Nikki just figures white bitter clinger men are dying out and she wants to jump on the new boat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (FkBIv)
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reuters has bush 4th, ahead of
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dondi
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (zOTsN)
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81 This is still making me scratch my head. Why would she and they do this?
Why?
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (i4P2a)
They've got nothing else. They're not imaginative people. They're also scared. They smell the revolt. Corrupt power, in its final stages, always doubles and triples down. There is nothing else.
Why?
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (i4P2a)
They've got nothing else. They're not imaginative people. They're also scared. They smell the revolt. Corrupt power, in its final stages, always doubles and triples down. There is nothing else.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (s/yC1)
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Right. Like Trump doesn't effectively use his media time to attack his political competition a bit and grab some spotlight.
Posted by: Harun at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (UBBWX)
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Trump/Cruz 2016 - FUCK YOU, WA
Posted by: Kreplach at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (uWjKl)
Even as a committed sTrumpet I can laugh at the freudian slip there.
Posted by: Kreplach at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (uWjKl)
Even as a committed sTrumpet I can laugh at the freudian slip there.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (xuouz)
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This is still making me scratch my head. Why would she and they do this?
Because they all live in the bubble called Washington..... They were all fretting and gnashing teeth when The Donald made that "Muslim" remark, so they had to atone....
Because they all live in the bubble called Washington..... They were all fretting and gnashing teeth when The Donald made that "Muslim" remark, so they had to atone....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (/dSsq)
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Chill out. Trump needs to listen a little bit if he wants to win. Trumpiods think his shit doesn't stink.
That is not the attitude of the rest of the country, he has the highest negative ratings of any candidate. Just facts, sorry to bring them up.
Nikki controls a lot of SC voters and I would remind the Trumpiods that SC is the third primary.
That is not the attitude of the rest of the country, he has the highest negative ratings of any candidate. Just facts, sorry to bring them up.
Nikki controls a lot of SC voters and I would remind the Trumpiods that SC is the third primary.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (jJRIy)
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Remember Jindal's SCOAMF moment when he delivered the SOTU response a few years ago?
Hey Bobby, how'd that work out for your preezy run?
Nikki's was far worse.
Hey Bobby, how'd that work out for your preezy run?
Nikki's was far worse.
Posted by: GnuBreed at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (gyKtp)
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I simply do not want any more, Indians, Asians, Africans or Latinos or Muslims immigrating legally and definetly not illegally.
See this is the type of crap that invites charges of bigotry.
WHO CARES what country that they come from, as long as they will be a net plus to this country?
I want to import the person who is going to invent the next iPhone or discover the next semiconductor technology, and I don't really care if that person is from India or from Germany.
See this is the type of crap that invites charges of bigotry.
WHO CARES what country that they come from, as long as they will be a net plus to this country?
I want to import the person who is going to invent the next iPhone or discover the next semiconductor technology, and I don't really care if that person is from India or from Germany.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (uZNvH)
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Fuck you, voters concerned about illegal immigration and muslim terrorism!!!!!!
Fuck You!!!!!
Now, I go to GOPe Paradise!!!!
Banzai!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!111!!!!!
Fuck you, voters concerned about illegal immigration and muslim terrorism!!!!!!
Fuck You!!!!!
Now, I go to GOPe Paradise!!!!
Banzai!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!111!!!!!
Posted by: Nikki Haley in Her Kamikaze Illegal Immigration Zero During Last Night's Power Dive! at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (s/yC1)
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But that didn't stop her from ordering the confederate flag taken down and the possible removal of confederate generals statues being removed after she starting bawling about the church members being shot by a deranged teenager. No, let's not be influenced by the cries of the fearful.
She had a golden opportunity to push back against the Left and their typical mischaracterization of that event.
It's very telling that she refused to do that, and instead caved to their demands to further destroy American history.
She is dead to me.
She had a golden opportunity to push back against the Left and their typical mischaracterization of that event.
It's very telling that she refused to do that, and instead caved to their demands to further destroy American history.
She is dead to me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (LUgeY)
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Begonia thought her speech was fabulous. 'Nough said.
Posted by: V the K at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (O7MnT)
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They smell the revolt. Corrupt power, in its final stages, always doubles and triples down.
This.
This.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2016 12:11 PM (659DL)
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I'm not particularly a Trump fan but this shit made Me think twice....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:11 PM (/dSsq)
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I agree with Ann Coulter. Deport her. And the rest of the GOPe. Hope McConnell enjoys Liberia!
Posted by: Achilles at January 13, 2016 12:11 PM (MiGRM)
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17
To further elevate My blood pressure, that slime ball Bush has moved into third place behind Trump and Cruz.... WTF?
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)
Yeah. I smell Bull Shit. No way he is in third place.
To further elevate My blood pressure, that slime ball Bush has moved into third place behind Trump and Cruz.... WTF?
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 11:55 AM (/dSsq)
Yeah. I smell Bull Shit. No way he is in third place.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:11 PM (jJRIy)
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I don't like the Washington Examiner site because of all the ads but the outstanding Noemie Emery has written a great piece on Trump's success in going after Bill Clinton (who has practically disappeared now from the campaign, as a result).
Like him or not (disclosure: I'm a "not") Trump is obviously the most talented politician in either campaign. A Democrat he may be, but he will win if he is nominated. That might be worth something anyway.
http://washex.am/1ZudepR
Like him or not (disclosure: I'm a "not") Trump is obviously the most talented politician in either campaign. A Democrat he may be, but he will win if he is nominated. That might be worth something anyway.
http://washex.am/1ZudepR
Posted by: MTF at January 13, 2016 12:11 PM (TxJGV)
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Depressing base turnout has always worked for GOPE before when you take into account they'd rather lose to the dem than win with a non GOPE candidate
If they can't control us they will replace us
Sadly for them there is someone running who is actually trying to appeal to us this time around
If they can't control us they will replace us
Sadly for them there is someone running who is actually trying to appeal to us this time around
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 12:11 PM (qxNrP)
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Mrs. Q phoned me this morning to tell me that one radio broadcaster's reaction is the following:
Cruz/Cotton 2016
I just might be able to live with that.
Cruz/Cotton 2016
I just might be able to live with that.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 13, 2016 12:11 PM (iIzG7)
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Are we ever allowed to be angry?
The idea that the opposition should only talk about how great America is and our best days are moving forward is basically an endorsement of the Obama agenda.
Like the bumper stickers says, "If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
The idea that the opposition should only talk about how great America is and our best days are moving forward is basically an endorsement of the Obama agenda.
Like the bumper stickers says, "If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (ys5Qo)
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Marco Rubio's body is made up of 115% water.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (4ErVI)
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Y'know that moment when a cranky kid becomes a rebellious teen and the parents do everything to control him and then one day unexpectedly during a tussle the teen is physically stronger than the dad and the parents suddenly realize he can no longer be controlled, and they start to get afraid?
Today is that day.
(Parents = GOPe, rebellious teen = conservative voters, in case that wasn't clear.)
Today is that day.
(Parents = GOPe, rebellious teen = conservative voters, in case that wasn't clear.)
Posted by: zombie at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (jBuUi)
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I don't even know what to say.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (GGCsk)
Adjectives are in aisle 4.
Adverbs are in aisle 5.
Imprecations are near the registers.
You will find the curses towards the back.
Remember the Outrage Outlet for all of your objurgation needs.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:08 PM (GGCsk)
Adjectives are in aisle 4.
Adverbs are in aisle 5.
Imprecations are near the registers.
You will find the curses towards the back.
Remember the Outrage Outlet for all of your objurgation needs.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (hLRSq)
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p.s. This, as usual, helps Trump. He should be thanking her.
But she does have a point that "loud talkers" like Obama haven't done much useful stuff.
Is Haley any better though?
But she does have a point that "loud talkers" like Obama haven't done much useful stuff.
Is Haley any better though?
Posted by: Harun at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (UBBWX)
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107 Chill out. Trump needs to listen a little bit if he wants to win. Trumpiods think his shit doesn't stink.
That is not the attitude of the rest of the country, he has the highest negative ratings of any candidate. Just facts, sorry to bring them up.
Nikki controls a lot of SC voters and I would remind the Trumpiods that SC is the third primary.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (jJRIy
Someone hasn't been reading their Scott Adams...
Trump built and maintained this lead by cutting through the BS, being consistent, and mocking anyone who attacked him.
Obama has high negatives and it doesn't mean shit.
That is not the attitude of the rest of the country, he has the highest negative ratings of any candidate. Just facts, sorry to bring them up.
Nikki controls a lot of SC voters and I would remind the Trumpiods that SC is the third primary.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:09 PM (jJRIy
Someone hasn't been reading their Scott Adams...
Trump built and maintained this lead by cutting through the BS, being consistent, and mocking anyone who attacked him.
Obama has high negatives and it doesn't mean shit.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (xuouz)
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And over on NPR they are crowing about how Obama established the (non-partisan - yeah, they said it that way) theme of a coarseness that had invaded our politics, mainly on the Republican side, and that Nikki Haley speech acted as a second to that motion.
Useful idiots.
Useful idiots.
Posted by: Steve Walsh at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (zEVL8)
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It was brain freeze from the Slurpee that made her do it. Wasn't it.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (GGCsk)
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Sorry if that offends Nikki, team stupid or anyone else but screw that shit, play times over and in the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, it's a time of choosing and your either on my side or your not.
Apparently some are choosing the other side.
Posted by: Kreplach
*Golf Clap*
Apparently some are choosing the other side.
Posted by: Kreplach
*Golf Clap*
Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (ohWrE)
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Guess whom Trump won't select as his running mate.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (b+LwE)
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122 Marco Rubio's body is made up of 115% water.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (4ErVI)
So, what, he keeps the rest in a camelback under his suit?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (4ErVI)
So, what, he keeps the rest in a camelback under his suit?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: DaveA at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (DL2i+)
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sorry according to latest Reuters poll Bush is in third nationally at 10%
with a 520 people sample
sorry according to latest Reuters poll Bush is in third nationally at 10%
with a 520 people sample
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (M+RRn)
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Going in circles, backwards, just waiting for the crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBC9-eXn_Yo
Pretty much sums up the last 8 years...
Pretty much sums up the last 8 years...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (wtvvX)
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The GOP approach seems to be that each morning they agree to meet the Democrats at the halfway point between their respective positions as of the start of the day. By evening, the GOP has moved halfway while the Democrats remain in the same place. This is repeated each day.
In related news, Zeno of Elea was a staunch GOP establishment member.
In related news, Zeno of Elea was a staunch GOP establishment member.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (NeFrd)
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I read the transcript. Shorter Haley: yeah, Obama said some stuff and didn't deliver but I'm not here to talk about that. Instead I just want to say that immigration is awesome, and you stupid, gullible, quivering cowards should stop supporting Trump and his cadre of angry, white, xenophobic Know-Nothings, and vote establishment this November!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 13, 2016 12:13 PM (kpqmD)
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Has everyone claiming Trump is a dem plant to doom the Republicans forgotten that the presumptive R nominee was supposed to be Jeb motherhumping Bush?
Hello?
Hello?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (xuouz)
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Yet Republicans and their head genius, Reince, can't figure out why the amount of people registered as Independents is growing at a historical rate.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (GGCsk)
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"I tuned in very briefly to see Steny Hoyer looking wasted and about to pass out..."
Some people just don't have what it takes to compete in those Obama-buzzword drinking games.
Some people just don't have what it takes to compete in those Obama-buzzword drinking games.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (iIzG7)
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#118 Like him or not (disclosure: I'm a "not") Trump is obviously the most talented politician in either campaign.
True, and also the hardest working candidate in either party, by a mile. Not even close. No one can say he isn't working his ass off for it.
I knew he was politically talented the moment he swept into the Iowa State Fair in the Trump-copter, giving rides to the kiddies and completely sucking the air out of what, 16 other candidacies at that point?
True, and also the hardest working candidate in either party, by a mile. Not even close. No one can say he isn't working his ass off for it.
I knew he was politically talented the moment he swept into the Iowa State Fair in the Trump-copter, giving rides to the kiddies and completely sucking the air out of what, 16 other candidacies at that point?
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (HMt16)
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76
Did Haley change after the Charleston shootings, or was she always kind of a squish and I never realized it?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (gA69l)
She has generally been pretty good. She did do one ting I did not like before the church shootings and the NAACP went back on the attack which she caved in on.
This is strike three for her with me. And it probably has more to do with her not being able to run again since she is in her second term now.
Did Haley change after the Charleston shootings, or was she always kind of a squish and I never realized it?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (gA69l)
She has generally been pretty good. She did do one ting I did not like before the church shootings and the NAACP went back on the attack which she caved in on.
This is strike three for her with me. And it probably has more to do with her not being able to run again since she is in her second term now.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (t2KH5)
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Guess whom Trump won't select as his running mate.
Posted by: Decaf
___________
I'm thinking Fiorina would be a good pick. An outsider ticket and she is skilled at taking Hillary down.
I do think Trump needs a woman on the ticket, female voters are where he's most vulnerable
Posted by: Decaf
___________
I'm thinking Fiorina would be a good pick. An outsider ticket and she is skilled at taking Hillary down.
I do think Trump needs a woman on the ticket, female voters are where he's most vulnerable
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (ys5Qo)
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decry "angry voices"
Yeah, sounds a lot like The Soviet Union......It's "dangerous" to be outside the group think.... If You get My drift...
Yeah, sounds a lot like The Soviet Union......It's "dangerous" to be outside the group think.... If You get My drift...
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (/dSsq)
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I'm curious if anybody has thoughts on how Cruz handles this birther stuff. Ignore it? Attack Trump? Laugh it off? Hold a JFK-like Catholicism press conference?
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 12:15 PM (s/yC1)
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@MTF, You are correct. Trump is amazing at neutralizing candidates and their supposed strengths.
Sometimes its as childish as calling Bush low energy.
I would never have guessed that would work, but it did!
Sometimes its as childish as calling Bush low energy.
I would never have guessed that would work, but it did!
Posted by: Harun at January 13, 2016 12:15 PM (UBBWX)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:15 PM (hLRSq)
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Respect for the Constitution: Extremism
Acknowledging facts: Hatred
Disagreeing on policy: Racism
Noting the obvious: Fearful opinion
Each and every point above is how the Left mischaracterizes us on the Right each and every day.
It's not even close to being true and has only been allowed to spread because of spineless Repumpkins refusing to stand up against it.
Acknowledging facts: Hatred
Disagreeing on policy: Racism
Noting the obvious: Fearful opinion
Each and every point above is how the Left mischaracterizes us on the Right each and every day.
It's not even close to being true and has only been allowed to spread because of spineless Repumpkins refusing to stand up against it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 13, 2016 12:15 PM (LUgeY)
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@126
I read Adams. He is fascinating and has a good take on the race. Still can not see Trump winning the general unless one of two things happen. Hillary get's indited or they run Sanders.
I read Adams. He is fascinating and has a good take on the race. Still can not see Trump winning the general unless one of two things happen. Hillary get's indited or they run Sanders.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:15 PM (jJRIy)
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Remember the Outrage Outlet for all of your objurgation needs.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (hLRSq)
I love learning new words. That one should be especially useful this year.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (hLRSq)
I love learning new words. That one should be especially useful this year.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 12:15 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:16 PM (zOTsN)
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Obama has high negatives and it doesn't mean shit.
Posted by: at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (xuouz)
He's already elected. He did NOT have high negatives when he ran in 08.
Posted by: at January 13, 2016 12:12 PM (xuouz)
He's already elected. He did NOT have high negatives when he ran in 08.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:16 PM (jJRIy)
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They really, really hate you.
They really, really hate you.
Posted by: BrotherJ at January 13, 2016 12:16 PM (tiZ4y)
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I'm thinking Fiorina would be a good pick. An outsider ticket and she is skilled at taking Hillary down.
I do think Trump needs a woman on the ticket, female voters are where he's most vulnerable
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (ys5Qo)
Fiorina is not an outsider. She may not be a Washington Beltway politician, but she is establishment an insider.
I do think Trump needs a woman on the ticket, female voters are where he's most vulnerable
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (ys5Qo)
Fiorina is not an outsider. She may not be a Washington Beltway politician, but she is establishment an insider.
Posted by: buzzion at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (zt+N6)
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You will find the curses towards the back.
Remember the Outrage Outlet for all of your objurgation needs.>>>
Just like all the other stores. The one thing I want is always at the back.
Remember the Outrage Outlet for all of your objurgation needs.>>>
Just like all the other stores. The one thing I want is always at the back.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (XtAzU)
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I'm thinking NM Gov. Susana Martinez for Trump's Veep.
We never hear much about her. How is she on immigration?
Female, Latina, purple state...she does tick the right boxes.
We never hear much about her. How is she on immigration?
Female, Latina, purple state...she does tick the right boxes.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (HMt16)
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It is but a small step from "this is not who we are."** to active punishment of "thought crimes".
** (i.e. instant 'othering')
** (i.e. instant 'othering')
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (NeFrd)
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He's already elected. He did NOT have high negatives when he ran in 08.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:16 PM (jJRIy)
He ran in 2012 too.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:16 PM (jJRIy)
He ran in 2012 too.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (xuouz)
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Parts of Haley's speech came damn close to "bitter clinger" territory.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (kpqmD)
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151 Reuters doesnt give the margin of error
or how they conducted the poll
Posted by: ThunderB
They mae sure that one of the numbers they called was the Bush compound in Midland texas, and then talked to all 52 people there. 52 out of a 520-person sample = 10%
or how they conducted the poll
Posted by: ThunderB
They mae sure that one of the numbers they called was the Bush compound in Midland texas, and then talked to all 52 people there. 52 out of a 520-person sample = 10%
Posted by: zombie at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (jBuUi)
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This is still making me scratch my head. Why would she and they do this?
They know they can't control Trump or Cruz and it may bring down their little oligarchy.
They know they can't control Trump or Cruz and it may bring down their little oligarchy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (ODxAs)
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Let me repeat:
When the skeevy ex who I kinda hate shows up trying to cadge gas money, at least the skeevy ex flatters me and tries to say how awesome I am.
This is the skeevy ex showing up drunk at 3:00 a.m. pounding on the door screaming BITCH YOU FUCKING OWE ME BECAUSE YOU DO YOU FUCKING BITCH!
Yeah, let me ponder that for a bit.
When the skeevy ex who I kinda hate shows up trying to cadge gas money, at least the skeevy ex flatters me and tries to say how awesome I am.
This is the skeevy ex showing up drunk at 3:00 a.m. pounding on the door screaming BITCH YOU FUCKING OWE ME BECAUSE YOU DO YOU FUCKING BITCH!
Yeah, let me ponder that for a bit.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (mf5HN)
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Well, sorry but NC just came off the list of potential retirement spots. Great people, but if this is what is going on down there, I've got enough of it in the Northeast already. I'm tired of throwing stuff at the TV.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (GGCsk)
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*nods head at zombie*
*rummages through vinyl*
*put down needle on You Got Another Thing Comin'*
Proceed to head bang
*flicks Bic for Berserker*
*rummages through vinyl*
*put down needle on You Got Another Thing Comin'*
Proceed to head bang
*flicks Bic for Berserker*
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (qxNrP)
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (jJRIy)
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"Nikki controls a lot of SC voters and I would remind the Trumpiods that SC is the third primary."
I wouldn't be too sure of that, she's wasted a lot of her political capital.
I wouldn't be too sure of that, she's wasted a lot of her political capital.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (b+LwE)
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33 Him: "I'm leaving you."
Her: "Leaving me? But why???"
Him: "Because you're verbally abusive and narcissistic."
Her: "DON'T YOU DARE DUMP ME you goddamn tiny-dick weasel, I'm feeling really fragile right now and just might kill myself if you do!!"
Posted by: zombie at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (jBuUi)
I see you've met my ex girlfriend from high school.
Her: "Leaving me? But why???"
Him: "Because you're verbally abusive and narcissistic."
Her: "DON'T YOU DARE DUMP ME you goddamn tiny-dick weasel, I'm feeling really fragile right now and just might kill myself if you do!!"
Posted by: zombie at January 13, 2016 11:57 AM (jBuUi)
I see you've met my ex girlfriend from high school.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (kpqmD)
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Fiorina is not an outsider. She may not be a Washington Beltway politician, but she is establishment an insider.
Posted by: buzzion
I think someone that has never held elected office is an outsider in my book.
She may have more conventional political leanings, but most people think the DC culture is the problem.
Fiorina is not an outsider. She may not be a Washington Beltway politician, but she is establishment an insider.
Posted by: buzzion
I think someone that has never held elected office is an outsider in my book.
She may have more conventional political leanings, but most people think the DC culture is the problem.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (ys5Qo)
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They know they can't control Trump or Cruz and it may bring down their little oligarchy.
On Twitter yesterday, Ben Howe said he would vote for Clinton if Trump is the nominee, and if you disagree with that, you're not an intelligent person.
On Twitter yesterday, Ben Howe said he would vote for Clinton if Trump is the nominee, and if you disagree with that, you're not an intelligent person.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (Agn5J)
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Just like all the other stores. The one thing I want is always at the back.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (XtAzU)
Makes you walk past the other displays, encouraging impulse purchases.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (XtAzU)
Makes you walk past the other displays, encouraging impulse purchases.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (hLRSq)
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156 I'm thinking NM Gov. Susana Martinez for Trump's Veep.
We never hear much about her. How is she on immigration?
Female, Latina, purple state...she does tick the right boxes.
But She got drunk at the Christmas party and the media had a field day with it...
We never hear much about her. How is she on immigration?
Female, Latina, purple state...she does tick the right boxes.
But She got drunk at the Christmas party and the media had a field day with it...
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (/dSsq)
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I don't know why, but parts of Haley's speech made me pine for a microwave burrito and a Big Gulp.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (GGCsk)
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163
Well, sorry but NC just came off the list of potential retirement spots.
Great people, but if this is what is going on down there, I've got
enough of it in the Northeast already. I'm tired of throwing stuff at
the TV.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (GGCsk)
I think you are a little confused. Nikki is in SOUTH Carolina, not NC.
You Yankees need to remember there are two.
Well, sorry but NC just came off the list of potential retirement spots.
Great people, but if this is what is going on down there, I've got
enough of it in the Northeast already. I'm tired of throwing stuff at
the TV.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (GGCsk)
I think you are a little confused. Nikki is in SOUTH Carolina, not NC.
You Yankees need to remember there are two.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (jJRIy)
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On the continuing sub-topic...
I spent the last day researching all the articles I could find that supported the prosecution's side of the "Making a Murderer" story.
My conclusion is that the nephew, Brendan, should be released immediately and the prosecutors and original defense lawyer sued and disbarred.
Steven Avery should be tried again. There wasn't any evidence so convincing that would stand by itself, plus, even if he did kill the girl, the police can't be allowed to plant evidence.
I spent the last day researching all the articles I could find that supported the prosecution's side of the "Making a Murderer" story.
My conclusion is that the nephew, Brendan, should be released immediately and the prosecutors and original defense lawyer sued and disbarred.
Steven Avery should be tried again. There wasn't any evidence so convincing that would stand by itself, plus, even if he did kill the girl, the police can't be allowed to plant evidence.
Posted by: jwest at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (Zs4uk)
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162 Let me repeat:
When the skeevy ex who I kinda hate shows up trying to cadge gas money, at least the skeevy ex flatters me and tries to say how awesome I am.
This is the skeevy ex showing up drunk at 3:00 a.m. pounding on the door screaming BITCH YOU FUCKING OWE ME BECAUSE YOU DO YOU FUCKING BITCH!
Yeah, let me ponder that for a bit.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (mf5HN)
I can help with that.
When the skeevy ex who I kinda hate shows up trying to cadge gas money, at least the skeevy ex flatters me and tries to say how awesome I am.
This is the skeevy ex showing up drunk at 3:00 a.m. pounding on the door screaming BITCH YOU FUCKING OWE ME BECAUSE YOU DO YOU FUCKING BITCH!
Yeah, let me ponder that for a bit.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (mf5HN)
I can help with that.
Posted by: Joe Biden, breaking open the double-barreled shotgun he calls "Elvira" at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (RD7QR)
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#169 On Twitter yesterday, Ben Howe said he would vote for Clinton if Trump is the nominee, and if you disagree with that, you're not an intelligent person.
Was he the one who went so far as to say he'd phone-bank for Hillary?
2016 - The Year of the Slipping Masks, indeed.
Was he the one who went so far as to say he'd phone-bank for Hillary?
2016 - The Year of the Slipping Masks, indeed.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (HMt16)
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But She got drunk at the Christmas party and the media had a field day with it...
Posted by: donna
Piker.
Posted by: donna
Piker.
Posted by: Hillary!'s liver at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (jb+28)
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when you click on Reuters further, the sample size for Jan 12 is only 156 people
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (zOTsN)
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I'm thinking NM Gov. Susana Martinez for Trump's Veep.
We never hear much about her. How is she on immigration?
Female, Latina, purple state...she does tick the right boxes.
______
She would be fantastic for the symbolism, but I doubt she would go for it and truthfully, she is a very moderate Republican
We never hear much about her. How is she on immigration?
Female, Latina, purple state...she does tick the right boxes.
______
She would be fantastic for the symbolism, but I doubt she would go for it and truthfully, she is a very moderate Republican
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:21 PM (ys5Qo)
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#171
But She got drunk at the Christmas party and the media had a field day with it...
Heh, yeah I know. Somehow I don't think that's a bug to Trump.
But She got drunk at the Christmas party and the media had a field day with it...
Heh, yeah I know. Somehow I don't think that's a bug to Trump.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:21 PM (HMt16)
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Was he the one who went so far as to say he'd phone-bank for Hillary?
I believe so. I tuned out of that conversation when he turned the condescension to "11."
I believe so. I tuned out of that conversation when he turned the condescension to "11."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:21 PM (gA69l)
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I was highly disappointed last night.
SMOD missed the perfect opportunity.
Sigh... bullets beans and band-aids again.
SMOD missed the perfect opportunity.
Sigh... bullets beans and band-aids again.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 13, 2016 12:21 PM (JOG+K)
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On Twitter yesterday, Ben Howe said he would vote for Clinton if Trump is the nominee, and if you disagree with that, you're not an intelligent person.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (Agn5J)
Stuff like that is childish. Not surprising but still disheartening.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (Agn5J)
Stuff like that is childish. Not surprising but still disheartening.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 12:21 PM (s/yC1)
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WHO CARES what country that they come from, as long as they will be a net plus to this country work a whole lot cheaper than Americans?
FTFY
FTFY
Posted by: The GOP Donor Class at January 13, 2016 12:22 PM (O7MnT)
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Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (uZNvH
At this point, who cares... we are going to be called bigots anyway.
Why should those of us of families who BUILT this damn country, from nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money.... but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:10 PM (uZNvH
At this point, who cares... we are going to be called bigots anyway.
Why should those of us of families who BUILT this damn country, from nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money.... but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:22 PM (f7rv6)
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Stuff like that is childish. Not surprising but still disheartening.
I liked Howe before this, but now I find him no different than any of the other GOPe media.
I liked Howe before this, but now I find him no different than any of the other GOPe media.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:22 PM (gA69l)
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I wouldn't be too sure of that, she's wasted a lot of her political capital.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (b+LwE)
True dat. The flag thing pissed a lot of her base off. Trump is picking up those people, but the problem for him is a lot of them can't vote in the primary, they are democrats.
Leslie will come to the rescue, yeah that's it!
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (b+LwE)
True dat. The flag thing pissed a lot of her base off. Trump is picking up those people, but the problem for him is a lot of them can't vote in the primary, they are democrats.
Leslie will come to the rescue, yeah that's it!
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:22 PM (jJRIy)
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Democrats (trash that they are) wouldnt do this to their front runner if ISIS had a knife to their throat. I am beyond fed up.
Posted by: JR at January 13, 2016 12:22 PM (OmFBv)
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Repeating, Trump nailed Bill Clinton:
( http://washex.am/1ZudepR ) .
Hillary is a terrible candidate and she cannot win without Bill being popularly received. In a single stroke, Trump may have ended Hillary's ability to win even if she escapes indictment and can make it past Bernie.
He really is an incredible politician.
( http://washex.am/1ZudepR ) .
Hillary is a terrible candidate and she cannot win without Bill being popularly received. In a single stroke, Trump may have ended Hillary's ability to win even if she escapes indictment and can make it past Bernie.
He really is an incredible politician.
Posted by: MTF at January 13, 2016 12:23 PM (TxJGV)
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77 Same topic, different thread.
====
Third Verse, Same As The First
Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (3ZtZW)
I'm En-er-ee the eighth I am!
En-er-ee the eighth I am I am!
====
Third Verse, Same As The First
Posted by: Bigby's Punch Bug Blue at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (3ZtZW)
I'm En-er-ee the eighth I am!
En-er-ee the eighth I am I am!
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 13, 2016 12:23 PM (kpqmD)
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14: "I'll crawl over broken glass to pull that lever and you can believe it won't be for anyone that tells me my time is over and I better get used to it."
So I am told that I am an angry voice, and that I am not what a Republican is. Okay, I'm good with that. Your primaries are open, so guess who's coming to vote?
So I am told that I am a racist, and that I am not what America is about. Cool. I guess the 20 years and few body parts I gave don't have the value they once did. I'll be sure to give you a farewell toast from the Republic of Texas.
But even in the face of this, you still expect to scare me with the boogeyman of Hillary? Well, THAT shit is retarded.
So congratulations Republican Party! I shall vote for Cruz or Trump. And if that is not an option, I shall cast a vote with all the bitter contempt possible for Hillary the Mad.
May your party choke on it and wither.
So I am told that I am an angry voice, and that I am not what a Republican is. Okay, I'm good with that. Your primaries are open, so guess who's coming to vote?
So I am told that I am a racist, and that I am not what America is about. Cool. I guess the 20 years and few body parts I gave don't have the value they once did. I'll be sure to give you a farewell toast from the Republic of Texas.
But even in the face of this, you still expect to scare me with the boogeyman of Hillary? Well, THAT shit is retarded.
So congratulations Republican Party! I shall vote for Cruz or Trump. And if that is not an option, I shall cast a vote with all the bitter contempt possible for Hillary the Mad.
May your party choke on it and wither.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 13, 2016 12:23 PM (4nmNX)
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Mr. Pink, in the morning thread:
"I'm really at a loss as to why the GOP seems to enjoy flicking off its
own voters. You don't see democrats giving speeches saying "we have to
stop calling everyone who disagrees with us racists guys it divides us
as a nation." Or "we can't have you liberals in big cities being voices
of hate against anyone in flyover country, that's not who we are as a
nation"
Yet republicans climb over themselves to insult me. Why?"
That's exactly it. That's the dividing line between Establishment GOP and the rest of the GOP.
You never, ever see calls from ANY quarter of the Democrats for rationality, calm or moderation against their fringes.
Yet, every time a GOPe wants attention, he runs to the nearest microphone and . . . attacks the rest of the party.
OTOH, Trump is out there attacking the Democrats (and their enablers in the GOP).
Tell me again how Trump is a liberal.
"I'm really at a loss as to why the GOP seems to enjoy flicking off its
own voters. You don't see democrats giving speeches saying "we have to
stop calling everyone who disagrees with us racists guys it divides us
as a nation." Or "we can't have you liberals in big cities being voices
of hate against anyone in flyover country, that's not who we are as a
nation"
Yet republicans climb over themselves to insult me. Why?"
That's exactly it. That's the dividing line between Establishment GOP and the rest of the GOP.
You never, ever see calls from ANY quarter of the Democrats for rationality, calm or moderation against their fringes.
Yet, every time a GOPe wants attention, he runs to the nearest microphone and . . . attacks the rest of the party.
OTOH, Trump is out there attacking the Democrats (and their enablers in the GOP).
Tell me again how Trump is a liberal.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (fQ/0p)
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when you click on Reuters further, the sample size for Jan 12 is only 156 people
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (zOTsN)
Stuff like that is awesome! People take it at face value and let their emotions run free instead of digging in to see what it actually consists of. I encourage everyone to let their emotions run free and if that little nagging voice of reason pipes up I want you to pimp-slap that whiny wuss into next week.
Reason, ha!
Posted by: ThunderB at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (zOTsN)
Stuff like that is awesome! People take it at face value and let their emotions run free instead of digging in to see what it actually consists of. I encourage everyone to let their emotions run free and if that little nagging voice of reason pipes up I want you to pimp-slap that whiny wuss into next week.
Reason, ha!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (hLRSq)
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>><I think you are a little confused. Nikki is in SOUTH Carolina, not NC.
You Yankees need to remember there are two.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (jJRIy)<
When did this happen and why didn't anyone tell me?
Yeah, typo. -_-
You Yankees need to remember there are two.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM (jJRIy)<
When did this happen and why didn't anyone tell me?
Yeah, typo. -_-
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (b+LwE)
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Just two words: fuck 'em!
Posted by: Killerdog at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (/fh9i)
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Damn, my arm is tired waving this long rifle around in the air! How long do I have to keep this up to satisfy you Rubes?
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (l3vZN)
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Listen up, one particular long-time highly respected commenter whose name I won't mention because I don't want to be accused of personally attacking:
You need to get your head around the uniqueness of those who are adherents of the religion of peace. They are not like other potential immigrants. Whatever a syrian, iraqi, or arabian "adherent" brings to the table could be had by an immigrant from that same land that ISN'T one of the religion of peace.
Adherents of that particular ideology represent nothing but increased risk, wherever they are, compared with any other population-at-large.
Why should any country incur that increased risk, with so little to gain? To maintain some perceived moral standing in the world's eyes? Please!
If it seems like perhaps some people would be unfairly affected by a refusal of civilized countries to allow them entrance based only on their "religion".......SO BE IT!
You need to get your head around the uniqueness of those who are adherents of the religion of peace. They are not like other potential immigrants. Whatever a syrian, iraqi, or arabian "adherent" brings to the table could be had by an immigrant from that same land that ISN'T one of the religion of peace.
Adherents of that particular ideology represent nothing but increased risk, wherever they are, compared with any other population-at-large.
Why should any country incur that increased risk, with so little to gain? To maintain some perceived moral standing in the world's eyes? Please!
If it seems like perhaps some people would be unfairly affected by a refusal of civilized countries to allow them entrance based only on their "religion".......SO BE IT!
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (kKHcp)
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On Twitter yesterday, Ben Howe said he would vote for Clinton if Trump is the nominee, and if you disagree with that, you're not an intelligent person.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (Agn5J)
*****
That Dale Carnegie course is really paying off for him, cuz being told I'm an idiot if I don't agree with him will totes sway me into his way of thinking.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:19 PM (Agn5J)
*****
That Dale Carnegie course is really paying off for him, cuz being told I'm an idiot if I don't agree with him will totes sway me into his way of thinking.
Posted by: Tim in GA at January 13, 2016 12:25 PM (fGsGg)
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We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money.... but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
As your Governor said, "Never underestimate the coercive power of the Central Government."
As your Governor said, "Never underestimate the coercive power of the Central Government."
Posted by: V the K at January 13, 2016 12:25 PM (O7MnT)
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On Twitter yesterday, Ben Howe said he would vote for Clinton if Trump is the nominee
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Ben Whoe?
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Ben Whoe?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon- at January 13, 2016 12:25 PM (NeFrd)
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Was it her response of her statement today acknowledging that it was directed at Trump? I'm not sure it matters much. It was a response to a SOTU that I'm guessing few people watched. As far as responses go, it was generally ok. It may have missed on the mood of the electorate, but ... just a response.
Posted by: SH at January 13, 2016 12:25 PM (gmeXX)
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You Yankees need to remember there are two. Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:20 PM
Just look at a photo of Nikki and you'll see there are two.
Just look at a photo of Nikki and you'll see there are two.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 13, 2016 12:25 PM (mIvL9)
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Wow. That was just dumb. She just insulted the 30-40% of Republican voters who are Trump supporters or at least have him on their short list. Why in the heck would the RNC trash their most highly ranked candidate? The only answer is, they cannot control him.
Expect RNC insiders to send money to Hillary if Trump is selected.
The RNC is destroying themselves with this kind of stuff. Oh, well. needs to be destroyed. Kick out the fakers and those who are only in it to enrich themselves.
Funny how this only makes me MORE interested in Trump, not LESS. Ms. Haley, your speech is backfiring.
Guessing she is on someone's (Jeb's?) shorlist for VP.
Expect RNC insiders to send money to Hillary if Trump is selected.
The RNC is destroying themselves with this kind of stuff. Oh, well. needs to be destroyed. Kick out the fakers and those who are only in it to enrich themselves.
Funny how this only makes me MORE interested in Trump, not LESS. Ms. Haley, your speech is backfiring.
Guessing she is on someone's (Jeb's?) shorlist for VP.
Posted by: K-E at January 13, 2016 12:26 PM (BrS7r)
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I encourage everyone to let their emotions run free and if that little nagging voice of reason pipes up I want you to pimp-slap that whiny wuss into next week.
Reason, ha!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome!
Really!?
*lights molotov cocktail*
Reason, ha!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome!
Really!?
*lights molotov cocktail*
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 13, 2016 12:26 PM (jb+28)
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At this point, who cares... we are going to be called bigots anyway.
Why should those of us of families who BUILT this damn country, from nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money.... but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
Posted by: BB Wolf
It needed repeating. Just because.
Just because people are too thick headed to see/hear it.
Why should those of us of families who BUILT this damn country, from nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money.... but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
Posted by: BB Wolf
It needed repeating. Just because.
Just because people are too thick headed to see/hear it.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 13, 2016 12:26 PM (ohWrE)
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What I really love is that the two best politicians on the GOP side are equally hated by the GOPe.
It's not just the Progressives in the government bureaucracy, we need to clean house in the party after we win this election. Hard.
It's not just the Progressives in the government bureaucracy, we need to clean house in the party after we win this election. Hard.
Posted by: MTF at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (TxJGV)
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Did Haley call Trump supporters racist?
Posted by: Harun at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (UBBWX)
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Well, sorry but NC just came off the list of potential retirement spots.
Great people, but if this is what is going on down there, I've got
enough of it in the Northeast already. I'm tired of throwing stuff at
the TV.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (GGCsk)
Haley is the gov of SC, not NC.
Well, sorry but NC just came off the list of potential retirement spots.
Great people, but if this is what is going on down there, I've got
enough of it in the Northeast already. I'm tired of throwing stuff at
the TV.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:18 PM (GGCsk)
Haley is the gov of SC, not NC.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (t2KH5)
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I don't care anymore what you say
we never played by the same rules anyway
I won't be there anymore
get out of my way
Let me by
i got better things to do with my tiiiime
we never played by the same rules anyway
I won't be there anymore
get out of my way
Let me by
i got better things to do with my tiiiime
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (qxNrP)
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When did this happen and why didn't anyone tell me?
Yeah, typo. -_-
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (GGCsk)
ha ha. Oh, and by the way, retiring in SC is a much better choice than NC.
SC, despite Nikki, is conservative as shit, except for their two ghey Senators, one who is Black.
Both unmarried........hmmm
Yeah, typo. -_-
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:24 PM (GGCsk)
ha ha. Oh, and by the way, retiring in SC is a much better choice than NC.
SC, despite Nikki, is conservative as shit, except for their two ghey Senators, one who is Black.
Both unmarried........hmmm
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (jJRIy)
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Female, Latina, purple state...she does tick the right boxes.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (HMt16)
Ahhh.... so we can play the exact same Ethnic pandering games ... that people are so angry about... ie that brought us Obama.....
Yeah.... good move...
/facepalm
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:17 PM (HMt16)
Ahhh.... so we can play the exact same Ethnic pandering games ... that people are so angry about... ie that brought us Obama.....
Yeah.... good move...
/facepalm
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (f7rv6)
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>>>166 "Nikki controls a lot of SC voters and I would remind the Trumpiods that SC is the third primary."
like with a remote?
like with a remote?
Posted by: x at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (57fhp)
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Really!?
*lights molotov cocktail*
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 13, 2016 12:26 PM (jb+2
That's beautiful, man.
*lights molotov cocktail*
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at January 13, 2016 12:26 PM (jb+2
That's beautiful, man.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - the Outrage Outlet - Proud Sponsors of Clash Of Champions at the Iowa Caucus-Dome! at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (hLRSq)
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Angry voices? They think I've got an angry voice?
Wait until next November. If a Democrat, an Independent running as a Democrat (looking at you, Bernie), or a RINO squish gets elected, they'll learn what an angry voice sounds like. And they'll get used to hearing the phrase "FVCK YOU! WAR!" one hell of a lot.
Wait until next November. If a Democrat, an Independent running as a Democrat (looking at you, Bernie), or a RINO squish gets elected, they'll learn what an angry voice sounds like. And they'll get used to hearing the phrase "FVCK YOU! WAR!" one hell of a lot.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (iIzG7)
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Let us take a moment, dear Morons, to recall that multi-cultiis uni-culty.
40 generations of cousin marriage, FGM/C, Moloch worship, and tyrrany, leave a stain of sorts.
Can we get mo' Brain Drain again?
40 generations of cousin marriage, FGM/C, Moloch worship, and tyrrany, leave a stain of sorts.
Can we get mo' Brain Drain again?
Posted by: Barry Manitoba at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (pjP2B)
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Saw a bit of Frank Putzs Panel of voters last night.... Enough to make You puke.... Asked Who was to blame for the Political "divide" Congress or obama they said Congress. But they would put no blame on obama... One or two poor souls tried but were shut down... Don't get me wrong. I'm no fan Of Congress but blaming them when obama is the most divisive President in history is mind boggling... See, plays right into Haleys. "We must all get along and never disagree....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (/dSsq)
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And I'll say this:
FUCK YOU, NIKKI HALEY!!!
And fuck anyone else who says we shouldn't listen to those of the angriest voices.
You know why they are angry? 'Cause they have the most to fucking lose. And you refuse to even listen.
They're out there, on the front line of all your leftist policies and they're getting the "Laura Logan in Egypt" treatment.
And dumb bitches like this one are strolling up to the microphone to scold them for not enjoying the rape enough.
FUCK YOU, NIKKI HALEY!!!
And fuck anyone else who says we shouldn't listen to those of the angriest voices.
You know why they are angry? 'Cause they have the most to fucking lose. And you refuse to even listen.
They're out there, on the front line of all your leftist policies and they're getting the "Laura Logan in Egypt" treatment.
And dumb bitches like this one are strolling up to the microphone to scold them for not enjoying the rape enough.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (fQ/0p)
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Republicans favorite platitudinous trope, used as a substitute for an actual intellectual argument;
"We're better than that".
Meaning, we are too cowardly, timid, facile, confused, feeble-minded, compliant, inbred and bereft of anything cogent.
"We're better than that".
Meaning, we are too cowardly, timid, facile, confused, feeble-minded, compliant, inbred and bereft of anything cogent.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (GGCsk)
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So let's see how this works...Bernie beats Hillary in the first five states, so the GOPe drafts her as their candidate and she runs as a Republican.
Posted by: JEM at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (o+SC1)
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81 This is still making me scratch my head. Why would she and they do this?
Why?
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (i4P2a)
Standard Ace response:
Why? Because Fuck You! That's why.
Why?
Posted by: Mr Pink at January 13, 2016 12:05 PM (i4P2a)
Standard Ace response:
Why? Because Fuck You! That's why.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (JOG+K)
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The House of Representatives passed legislation on Wednesday to restrict President Barack Obamas ability to lift sanctions on Iran, which the White House has promised to veto as an effort to kill the landmark nuclear agreement reached last summer.
The measure passed by 191 to 106, almost entirely along party lines, with almost every yes vote coming from Republicans and almost ever no for Democrats. Nearly a third of the House, 137 members, did not vote.
RINO RINO RINO RINO
SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL
The measure passed by 191 to 106, almost entirely along party lines, with almost every yes vote coming from Republicans and almost ever no for Democrats. Nearly a third of the House, 137 members, did not vote.
RINO RINO RINO RINO
SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (DUoqb)
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How widespread is the Ben Howe type feeling among normally reliable GOP voters?
I will say, I have run into it and I do think these people will mostly follow through, but I'm getting to the point where I think we need a new coalition anyway and willing to risk it.
I will say, I have run into it and I do think these people will mostly follow through, but I'm getting to the point where I think we need a new coalition anyway and willing to risk it.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (ys5Qo)
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like with a remote?
Posted by: x at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (57fhp)
Big tits. What can't they do?
Posted by: x at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (57fhp)
Big tits. What can't they do?
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (jJRIy)
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Nood.
Posted by: HH at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (DrCtv)
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"Fiorina is not an outsider. She may not be a Washington Beltway politician, but she is establishment an insider.
Posted by: buzzion
I think someone that has never held elected office is an outsider in my book."
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Fiorina has all the baggage of outsourced jobs while she ran HP.
Posted by: buzzion
I think someone that has never held elected office is an outsider in my book."
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Fiorina has all the baggage of outsourced jobs while she ran HP.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (b+LwE)
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Damn, my arm is tired waving this long rifle around in the air! How long do I have to keep this up to satisfy you Rubes?
Haven't you heard? Mitch McConnell is the most conservativist majority leader evah! GOP consultant John Freehey (pronounced Derp) said so.
Haven't you heard? Mitch McConnell is the most conservativist majority leader evah! GOP consultant John Freehey (pronounced Derp) said so.
Posted by: V the K at January 13, 2016 12:29 PM (O7MnT)
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Him: "I'm leaving you."
Her: "Leaving me? But why???"
Him: "Because you're verbally abusive and narcissistic."
Her: "DON'T YOU DARE DUMP ME you goddamn tiny-dick weasel, I'm feeling really fragile right now and just might kill myself if you do!!"
Whoa. Flashbacks to my Bostonian ex.
Her: "Leaving me? But why???"
Him: "Because you're verbally abusive and narcissistic."
Her: "DON'T YOU DARE DUMP ME you goddamn tiny-dick weasel, I'm feeling really fragile right now and just might kill myself if you do!!"
Whoa. Flashbacks to my Bostonian ex.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 13, 2016 12:30 PM (jhqr1)
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I am a Cruz voter ever since he ran against Dewhurst, but I am an ounce away from tipping the scale to Trump just because of the condescending attitude exhibited by supposed tea party candidate Haley, who seems to have been co-opted by GOPe. More than tired of the scolding tone and holier than thou attitude that rivals the JEF's.
Posted by: Cyn at January 13, 2016 12:30 PM (9r9wZ)
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It wasn't the time nor the place Ms. Haley. Your Uniparty overlords gave you bad advise and now you will never get the turncoat red to wash off.
And thats a shame.
And thats a shame.
Posted by: Drider at January 13, 2016 12:30 PM (bdzyz)
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79 60 Because Trump is an idiot and a disgrace to conservatives! What's wrong with you people. Coulter wants Trump to deport Haley. Is this what we have become? God help us.
Posted by: DonKeyhoti at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (64m/e)
Concern Status: Noted.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (RD7QR)
OK, then:
Because Trump is a drooling imbecile and an embarrassment to conservatives! What's wrong with you people? Coulter wants Trump to deport Haley. Is this what we have become? God help us.
Because I'm more than "concerned", I'm scared.
Trump has been a clown and a joke since the 80s. Worshipping this buffoon because he isn't...whatever we're against today...is so profoundly stupid as to be worthy of forced institutionalization.
A single sin by Cruz and especially Rubio is held to be the be-all and end-all of their records but every single thing Trump does is excused in full because you want scalps.
Lots of scalps. Although Trump has the most luxurious Leftist scalp you can imagine, you absolve him because he feeds your anger.
You can pick and choose sins all you want to try to argue that one is better than another, but supporting Trump is simply shit-eating LIV craziness.
Posted by: DonKeyhoti at January 13, 2016 12:01 PM (64m/e)
Concern Status: Noted.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 13, 2016 12:04 PM (RD7QR)
OK, then:
Because Trump is a drooling imbecile and an embarrassment to conservatives! What's wrong with you people? Coulter wants Trump to deport Haley. Is this what we have become? God help us.
Because I'm more than "concerned", I'm scared.
Trump has been a clown and a joke since the 80s. Worshipping this buffoon because he isn't...whatever we're against today...is so profoundly stupid as to be worthy of forced institutionalization.
A single sin by Cruz and especially Rubio is held to be the be-all and end-all of their records but every single thing Trump does is excused in full because you want scalps.
Lots of scalps. Although Trump has the most luxurious Leftist scalp you can imagine, you absolve him because he feeds your anger.
You can pick and choose sins all you want to try to argue that one is better than another, but supporting Trump is simply shit-eating LIV craziness.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 13, 2016 12:30 PM (Xd2w5)
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>>ha ha. Oh, and by the way, retiring in SC is a much better choice than NC.
SC, despite Nikki, is conservative as shit, except for their two ghey Senators, one who is Black.
Both unmarried........hmmm
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (jJRIy)<<
NC is still slightly better tax wise. But I see that SC is making some changes to try and counter that. Thumbs up!
SC, despite Nikki, is conservative as shit, except for their two ghey Senators, one who is Black.
Both unmarried........hmmm
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (jJRIy)<<
NC is still slightly better tax wise. But I see that SC is making some changes to try and counter that. Thumbs up!
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:30 PM (GGCsk)
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We're angry and the GOPe wants us to feel ashamed of that. That's not a winning strategy. Anger trumps shame (no pun intended).
And I don't agree that Trump is an angry candidate. Trump's message is basically constructive and positive. One big reason why the GOPe is so flummoxed by him.
And I don't agree that Trump is an angry candidate. Trump's message is basically constructive and positive. One big reason why the GOPe is so flummoxed by him.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 12:30 PM (s/yC1)
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Ask Mitt Romney what Nikki Haley's endorsement was worth.
She has no following anymore, even in South Carolina.
You would think these clowns would watch Jeb floundering and decide maybe that's not the best path to higher office.
She has no following anymore, even in South Carolina.
You would think these clowns would watch Jeb floundering and decide maybe that's not the best path to higher office.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:31 PM (ys5Qo)
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Here's another point, which may or may not have as much profanity let's all wait and see.
There's a bunch of hand wringing in portions of the GOP about the angry voices.
There seems to be no interest in determining why those people are angry and what the GOP can do, not day but do, to dissipate that anger.
Which would rather lead one to believe that certain portions of the GOP do not care a whit about those issues.
It would rather lead one to believe that the mouthbreathers, well, aren't and are wise enough to determine that.
But I'm the child who can't play politics.
Okie dokie.
There's a bunch of hand wringing in portions of the GOP about the angry voices.
There seems to be no interest in determining why those people are angry and what the GOP can do, not day but do, to dissipate that anger.
Which would rather lead one to believe that certain portions of the GOP do not care a whit about those issues.
It would rather lead one to believe that the mouthbreathers, well, aren't and are wise enough to determine that.
But I'm the child who can't play politics.
Okie dokie.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 13, 2016 12:32 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: ginaswo at January 13, 2016 12:32 PM (qxNrP)
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If Trump wins, it's going to be interesting to see how he deals with all the shitweasels in congress. It might be fun to watch.
Someone mentioned it yesterday here and I've mentioned it a couple of times, we're seeing all the GOPe turds floating to the top during this campaign. Haley is just the latest one.
Someone mentioned it yesterday here and I've mentioned it a couple of times, we're seeing all the GOPe turds floating to the top during this campaign. Haley is just the latest one.
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (Fmupd)
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223 How widespread is the Ben Howe type feeling among normally reliable GOP voters?
I will say, I have run into it and I do think these people will mostly follow through, but I'm getting to the point where I think we need a new coalition anyway and willing to risk it.
I'm a Cruz guy, but his entire attitude turned me off. GOPe media on Twitter keeps insulting Trump supporters, and while that may be funny at the moment, if Trump is NOT the nominee, people like Ben Howe will be trying to win them to their candidate. Insulting them on a daily basis won't do that.
I will say, I have run into it and I do think these people will mostly follow through, but I'm getting to the point where I think we need a new coalition anyway and willing to risk it.
I'm a Cruz guy, but his entire attitude turned me off. GOPe media on Twitter keeps insulting Trump supporters, and while that may be funny at the moment, if Trump is NOT the nominee, people like Ben Howe will be trying to win them to their candidate. Insulting them on a daily basis won't do that.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (kFnmp)
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Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:27 PM (f7rv6)
Dude. *I* personally do not believe in identity politics. But *I* am not running for POTUS.
I'm talking realpolitik.
You can remove your palm from your face.
Dude. *I* personally do not believe in identity politics. But *I* am not running for POTUS.
I'm talking realpolitik.
You can remove your palm from your face.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (HMt16)
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I changed back from indy to gop just to vote in the primary
That is the only reason I'm still registered as GOP. Until I can regester as a viable 3rd party. I will vote for who I want in the primary, and then vote one of the loon parties rather than GOP establishment, or democrat in the general.
That is the only reason I'm still registered as GOP. Until I can regester as a viable 3rd party. I will vote for who I want in the primary, and then vote one of the loon parties rather than GOP establishment, or democrat in the general.
Posted by: Paladin at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (LTquJ)
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So congratulations Republican Party! I shall vote for Cruz or Trump. And if that is not an option, I shall cast a vote with all the bitter contempt possible for Hillary the Mad.
May your party choke on it and wither.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 13, 2016 12:23 PM (4nmNX)
Good Sir!
/SALUTE...
May I suggest voting Third Party vice voting for Hillary?
There are others on the ballot, contrary to what the TWO parties wish us to believe...
Note, the ONLY time we have had a balanced budget in modern times, was when a THIRD PARTY candidate, Ross Perot, was a valid threat to the two party Monopoly on power.
May your party choke on it and wither.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 13, 2016 12:23 PM (4nmNX)
Good Sir!
/SALUTE...
May I suggest voting Third Party vice voting for Hillary?
There are others on the ballot, contrary to what the TWO parties wish us to believe...
Note, the ONLY time we have had a balanced budget in modern times, was when a THIRD PARTY candidate, Ross Perot, was a valid threat to the two party Monopoly on power.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (f7rv6)
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"188 Democrats (trash that they are) wouldnt do this to their front runner if ISIS had a knife to their throat. I am beyond fed up."
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To the the GOPe Trump is worse than ISIS.
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To the the GOPe Trump is worse than ISIS.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (b+LwE)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:34 PM (GGCsk)
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I told you she can't be trusted. And that I banged her.
Posted by: Will Folks at January 13, 2016 12:34 PM (nFdGS)
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To the the GOPe Trump is worse than ISIS.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (b+LwE)
Oh, absolutely.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (b+LwE)
Oh, absolutely.
Posted by: rrpjr at January 13, 2016 12:34 PM (s/yC1)
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Dr. Howe and his Turdis.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 13, 2016 12:35 PM (FkBIv)
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Fiorina has all the baggage of outsourced jobs while she ran HP.
Posted by: Decaf
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Everyone has baggage, and Trump is going to be attacked for laying off a bunch of working class people during his bankrupticies while flying away in his gold plated helicopter. I still think Trump has the pulse of the working class better than anyone else.
Hillary being the nominee is going to make the class warfare playbook ring hollow for most.
Posted by: Decaf
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Everyone has baggage, and Trump is going to be attacked for laying off a bunch of working class people during his bankrupticies while flying away in his gold plated helicopter. I still think Trump has the pulse of the working class better than anyone else.
Hillary being the nominee is going to make the class warfare playbook ring hollow for most.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:35 PM (ys5Qo)
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I die for the Glory of Emperor Jeb!!!!!!!!
Emperor Jeeeeeeeeeeeebbbbbb!!!!!11111!!!
Banzai!!!!!!11!!!!!111!!!!!!!
I die for the Glory of Emperor Jeb!!!!!!!!
Emperor Jeeeeeeeeeeeebbbbbb!!!!!11111!!!
Banzai!!!!!!11!!!!!111!!!!!!!
Posted by: Nikki Haley in Her Kamikaze Illegal Immigration Zero During Last Night's Power Dive! at January 13, 2016 12:35 PM (0cMkb)
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They really believe Jeb! or Rubio has a shot, don't they.
Poor bastards. It's going to be a pretty big letdown.
Poor bastards. It's going to be a pretty big letdown.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 13, 2016 12:35 PM (GGCsk)
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A single sin by Cruz and especially Rubio is held to be the be-all and end-all of their records but every single thing Trump does is excused in full because you want scalps.
If you murder someone, that's a single sin too. But its immeasurably worse than 1,000 white lies.
A single sin by Cruz and especially Rubio is held to be the be-all and end-all of their records but every single thing Trump does is excused in full because you want scalps.
If you murder someone, that's a single sin too. But its immeasurably worse than 1,000 white lies.
Posted by: buzzion at January 13, 2016 12:37 PM (zt+N6)
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217 Saw a bit of Frank Putzs Panel of voters last night.... Enough to make You puke.... Asked Who was to blame for the Political "divide" Congress or obama they said Congress. But they would put no blame on obama... One or two poor souls tried but were shut down... Don't get me wrong. I'm no fan Of Congress but blaming them when obama is the most divisive President in history is mind boggling... See, plays right into Haleys. "We must all get along and never disagree....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (/dSsq)
Gee, I seem to remember praise for Luntz' Dunces when they praised Trump at one of the debates.
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (/dSsq)
Gee, I seem to remember praise for Luntz' Dunces when they praised Trump at one of the debates.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 13, 2016 12:37 PM (Xd2w5)
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Seems to me the GOPe have modified the old Milton quote. New version ...
Better to serve in heaven than reign in hell.
Better to serve in heaven than reign in hell.
Posted by: Irony at January 13, 2016 12:37 PM (E7zwb)
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I'm talking realpolitik.
You can remove your palm from your face.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (HMt16)
The only reason this is considered 'realpolitik'... is that the PUNDITS and Insiders have convinced you it is...
and you, by your suggestion, perpetuate the very identity politics you say you do not espouse...
You did not suggest her based on her record... or accomplishments... or even her hard core Conservative beliefs.....
You can remove your palm from your face.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat! at January 13, 2016 12:33 PM (HMt16)
The only reason this is considered 'realpolitik'... is that the PUNDITS and Insiders have convinced you it is...
and you, by your suggestion, perpetuate the very identity politics you say you do not espouse...
You did not suggest her based on her record... or accomplishments... or even her hard core Conservative beliefs.....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (f7rv6)
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"Trump has been a clown and a joke since the 80s. Worshipping this buffoon because he isn't...whatever we're against today...is so profoundly stupid"
The drooling imbecile is still smarter than the establishment realising that if you want people to vote for you you must give them something, take their concerns into consideration.
The brain trusts are not able to comprehend that.
The drooling imbecile is still smarter than the establishment realising that if you want people to vote for you you must give them something, take their concerns into consideration.
The brain trusts are not able to comprehend that.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (b+LwE)
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Why should those of us of families who BUILT this damn country, from
nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my
Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now
live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak
Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because
there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE
HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money....
but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
Posted by: BB Wolf
Okay, let's consider this possibility.
Suppose a potential immigrant would pay his/her full cost for immigrating here, isn't some Mexican day laborer just interested in a quick buck but would actually bring unique skills to this country, and is willing to become an American citizen and abide by American values and rules.
Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my
Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now
live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak
Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because
there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE
HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money....
but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
Posted by: BB Wolf
Okay, let's consider this possibility.
Suppose a potential immigrant would pay his/her full cost for immigrating here, isn't some Mexican day laborer just interested in a quick buck but would actually bring unique skills to this country, and is willing to become an American citizen and abide by American values and rules.
Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (uZNvH)
Posted by: HillbillyKing at January 13, 2016 12:40 PM (r/BaX)
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217 Saw a bit of Frank Putzs Panel of voters last night.... Enough to make You puke.... Asked Who was to blame for the Political "divide" Congress or obama they said Congress. But they would put no blame on obama... One or two poor souls tried but were shut down... Don't get me wrong. I'm no fan Of Congress but blaming them when obama is the most divisive President in history is mind boggling... See, plays right into Haleys. "We must all get along and never disagree....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (/dSsq)
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Please reference the Limbaugh Theorum.
217 Saw a bit of Frank Putzs Panel of voters last night.... Enough to make You puke.... Asked Who was to blame for the Political "divide" Congress or obama they said Congress. But they would put no blame on obama... One or two poor souls tried but were shut down... Don't get me wrong. I'm no fan Of Congress but blaming them when obama is the most divisive President in history is mind boggling... See, plays right into Haleys. "We must all get along and never disagree....
Posted by: donna at January 13, 2016 12:28 PM (/dSsq)
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Please reference the Limbaugh Theorum.
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 12:40 PM (Fmupd)
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Although Trump has the most luxurious Leftist scalp you can imagine, you absolve him because he feeds your anger.
He is a classic populist demagogue. He tells the people what they want to hear and stirs up their righteous anger in order to enable them to sweep him into power.
He is a classic populist demagogue. He tells the people what they want to hear and stirs up their righteous anger in order to enable them to sweep him into power.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:40 PM (uZNvH)
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You guys act as if it matters. The country is gone. Trump can't fix it. Neither can Cruz, or Rubio, or Jeb. Or anyone.
Seems like a waste of time arguing who gets to be on the bridge while the Titanic goes down.
Seems like a waste of time arguing who gets to be on the bridge while the Titanic goes down.
Posted by: V the K at January 13, 2016 12:41 PM (O7MnT)
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We're 51% Idiocracy, 49% Atlas Shrugs. There's no fixing this.
Posted by: V the K at January 13, 2016 12:42 PM (O7MnT)
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Suppose a potential immigrant would pay his/her full cost for immigrating here, isn't some Mexican day laborer just interested in a quick buck but would actually bring unique skills to this country, and is willing to become an American citizen and abide by American values and rules.
Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
Posted by: chemjeff
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Why though is this so important? If you listened to most Republican leadership, the most important thing on Earth is that we get as many foreigners here as possible.
Would it really be so awful if we say adopted the immigration policies of Switzerland where it was very hard to come here?
I really don't believe immigration is this great thing for America moving forward, I see far more potential for our destruction from it.
Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
Posted by: chemjeff
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Why though is this so important? If you listened to most Republican leadership, the most important thing on Earth is that we get as many foreigners here as possible.
Would it really be so awful if we say adopted the immigration policies of Switzerland where it was very hard to come here?
I really don't believe immigration is this great thing for America moving forward, I see far more potential for our destruction from it.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:42 PM (ys5Qo)
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Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (uZNvH)
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If he came here illegally, then, yes. Absolutely
Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (uZNvH)
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If he came here illegally, then, yes. Absolutely
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 12:43 PM (Fmupd)
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He is a classic populist demagogue. He tells the people what they want to hear and stirs up their righteous anger in order to enable them to sweep him into power.
Posted by: chemjeff
and if it works it will be for the third time in a row and would be unsurprising. maybe it's the game not the player.
Posted by: chemjeff
and if it works it will be for the third time in a row and would be unsurprising. maybe it's the game not the player.
Posted by: x at January 13, 2016 12:43 PM (57fhp)
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What would you name your new party?
Seems to me, nearly every name is taken by some radical fringe group.
Seems to me, nearly every name is taken by some radical fringe group.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 13, 2016 12:44 PM (fQ/0p)
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"Everyone has baggage, and Trump is going to be attacked for laying off a bunch of working class people during his bankrupticies while flying away in his gold plated helicopter."
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Laying off people due to bankruptcy is not the same as sending jobs overseas to make more money and a gold plated Gulfstream.
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Laying off people due to bankruptcy is not the same as sending jobs overseas to make more money and a gold plated Gulfstream.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:44 PM (b+LwE)
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Trump was very gracious in telling the FOX gal that no, Nkki was not going to be the VP. She started rattling off her resume as the segment ended.
I found myself laughing as my arse fell off.
I found myself laughing as my arse fell off.
Posted by: Drider at January 13, 2016 12:44 PM (bdzyz)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at January 13, 2016 12:45 PM (4WhSY)
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What would you name your new party?
Seems to me, nearly every name is taken by some radical fringe group.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 13, 2016 12:44 PM (fQ/0p)
I'm partial to The Party of Retributive Justice.
Seems to me, nearly every name is taken by some radical fringe group.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 13, 2016 12:44 PM (fQ/0p)
I'm partial to The Party of Retributive Justice.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 13, 2016 12:45 PM (nFdGS)
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If he came here illegally, then, yes. Absolutely
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 12:43 PM (Fmupd)
I presumed it would be legal immigration. Still want to keep this person out?
If he came here illegally, then, yes. Absolutely
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 12:43 PM (Fmupd)
I presumed it would be legal immigration. Still want to keep this person out?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:46 PM (uZNvH)
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Nobody put her up to it Ace, she volunteered, she knew entirely what she was doing, being asked to do.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 13, 2016 12:47 PM (MbrzC)
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The drooling imbecile is still smarter than the establishment realising that if you want people to vote for you you must give them something, take their concerns into consideration.
This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. It's not "The Establishment v. Trump". Dammit, Trump is 100% establishment. He's New London, Connecticut.
Trump is playing you for a sucker.
There is a second possibility. You're threatening suicide:
"Pay attention to me. I'm angry with you! If you don't acknowledge my anger, I'll kill myself. I swear I will. Here I go!"
This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. It's not "The Establishment v. Trump". Dammit, Trump is 100% establishment. He's New London, Connecticut.
Trump is playing you for a sucker.
There is a second possibility. You're threatening suicide:
"Pay attention to me. I'm angry with you! If you don't acknowledge my anger, I'll kill myself. I swear I will. Here I go!"
Posted by: AmishDude at January 13, 2016 12:47 PM (Xd2w5)
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I think all immigration should be stopped for about 20 years. And, in the meantime, throw out the muzzies.
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 12:47 PM (Fmupd)
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"He is a classic populist demagogue. He tells the people what they want to hear and stirs up their righteous anger in order to enable them to sweep him into power."
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Once he's in its expected that he will dance with the ones that brung him.
If he doesn't deliver he doesn't get a second term. Quid pro quo.
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Once he's in its expected that he will dance with the ones that brung him.
If he doesn't deliver he doesn't get a second term. Quid pro quo.
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:48 PM (b+LwE)
Posted by: V the K at January 13, 2016 12:48 PM (O7MnT)
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@260
We're 51% Idiocracy, 49% Atlas Shrugs. There's no fixing this.
I dare say it's more 65/35...
And barring a horrific cataclysm that unites the people, I agree. There just ain't no fixin this.
We're 51% Idiocracy, 49% Atlas Shrugs. There's no fixing this.
I dare say it's more 65/35...
And barring a horrific cataclysm that unites the people, I agree. There just ain't no fixin this.
Posted by: HillbillyKing at January 13, 2016 12:49 PM (r/BaX)
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Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (uZNvH)
Please put a PRICE on the blood my family has shed for this country, from its very beginning.
Right now, we allow almost 1.5 Million LEGAL immigrants in every year... when you total up all the various programs...
Over a 30 year span (a modern generation) that is 45 Million foreign born... ie from another culture.
With 300 Million Americans... that is 15% of the population being foreign born.
Now add in illegal immigration.... which the Government admits at least 15 million (I'd double that ...)...
We are now at 20% foreign born... ie most whom are from another culture... and most of whom retain dual citizenship.
No country can assimilate that..
Do you still want to keep out this hypothetical immigrant?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (uZNvH)
Please put a PRICE on the blood my family has shed for this country, from its very beginning.
Right now, we allow almost 1.5 Million LEGAL immigrants in every year... when you total up all the various programs...
Over a 30 year span (a modern generation) that is 45 Million foreign born... ie from another culture.
With 300 Million Americans... that is 15% of the population being foreign born.
Now add in illegal immigration.... which the Government admits at least 15 million (I'd double that ...)...
We are now at 20% foreign born... ie most whom are from another culture... and most of whom retain dual citizenship.
No country can assimilate that..
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 12:50 PM (f7rv6)
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Donna, what poll has Bush in "third" place. NH and Iowa have Bush somewhere in the single digits, twenty to thirty points behind Trump and Cruz.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (O0Kvv)
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Reuters 5day tracker... got some 3pt bump a day ago out of nowhere.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 13, 2016 11:59 AM (O0Kvv)
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Reuters 5day tracker... got some 3pt bump a day ago out of nowhere.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 13, 2016 12:51 PM (MbrzC)
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Laying off people due to bankruptcy is not the same as sending jobs overseas to make more money and a gold plated Gulfstream.
Posted by: Decaf
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To most people it is, especially when Trump states that his bankruptcies were strategic, not his inability to pay
Again, I'm a Trump guy, but that will be an issue he's going to be attacked on mercilessly just like Romney was
Posted by: Decaf
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To most people it is, especially when Trump states that his bankruptcies were strategic, not his inability to pay
Again, I'm a Trump guy, but that will be an issue he's going to be attacked on mercilessly just like Romney was
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:52 PM (ys5Qo)
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"There is a second possibility. You're threatening suicide: "
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What an absurd thing to say just because you are not getting your way.
What other possibility? Hillary? Bernie? Biden? Warren?
Which one tickles your fancy?
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What an absurd thing to say just because you are not getting your way.
What other possibility? Hillary? Bernie? Biden? Warren?
Which one tickles your fancy?
Posted by: Decaf at January 13, 2016 12:53 PM (b+LwE)
Posted by: Soona at January 13, 2016 12:53 PM (Fmupd)
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He is a classic populist demagogue. He tells the people what they want to hear and stirs up their righteous anger in order to enable them to sweep him into power.
And it is 100% true that when the people have reasonable requests and the political class won't give voice to them, demagogues are born.
I blame establishment Republicans for Trump. It wasn't really the Gang of 8. It was the fear that no matter how much opposition to it there was, immigration "reform" would pass anyway.
And the shit they stuffed in the Omnibus just confirmed it all. My example is Ex-Im. No conservative case for it. You might be able to make a practical case for it, but it's not so essential if you're not a VP at Boeing looking to goose your stock price by a quarter-point.
The same people who try to make the free-market case for all manner of trade and for immigration also supported Ex-Im. It was shut down. Good. Democracy at work. And then it was snuck in anyway.
And it is 100% true that when the people have reasonable requests and the political class won't give voice to them, demagogues are born.
I blame establishment Republicans for Trump. It wasn't really the Gang of 8. It was the fear that no matter how much opposition to it there was, immigration "reform" would pass anyway.
And the shit they stuffed in the Omnibus just confirmed it all. My example is Ex-Im. No conservative case for it. You might be able to make a practical case for it, but it's not so essential if you're not a VP at Boeing looking to goose your stock price by a quarter-point.
The same people who try to make the free-market case for all manner of trade and for immigration also supported Ex-Im. It was shut down. Good. Democracy at work. And then it was snuck in anyway.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 13, 2016 12:55 PM (Xd2w5)
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The Conservative base could care less if the GOP "acknowledges" their anger...we are way past that, it is stake thru the heart time now.
The GOP is DEAD, they just don't know it yet.
The GOP is DEAD, they just don't know it yet.
Posted by: pam at January 13, 2016 12:56 PM (cF0hS)
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What a G-damn mess. In the split between Trump and RINO, I can support neither side. Neither represents true conservatism. And here we are with an otherwise great opportunity to take the country back from these leftist clowns. It will surely be squandered by fools. What a waste...
CRUZ 2016!
CRUZ 2016!
Posted by: Laugh it up, Fuzzball! at January 13, 2016 12:59 PM (Es7YA)
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Posted by: chemjeff at January 13, 2016 12:38 PM (uZNvH)
I note I did not directly answer your question... so I will...
If they can pay their way in? Lets see...
15K per year per child for school... ... 13 years of Public school... $195,000 per child....
2 or 3 Kids.... say 2....
Do you really think most immigrants can, or will, pay that???
or being NICE... will the Government force ME to pay for it.
I note I did not directly answer your question... so I will...
If they can pay their way in? Lets see...
15K per year per child for school... ... 13 years of Public school... $195,000 per child....
2 or 3 Kids.... say 2....
Do you really think most immigrants can, or will, pay that???
or being NICE... will the Government force ME to pay for it.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 01:00 PM (f7rv6)
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What an absurd thing to say just because you are not getting your way.
What other possibility? Hillary? Bernie? Biden? Warren?
You tell me. Trump is a lifelong Democrat (but he always gets a pass, because I guess that was strategic lying as well) and if you want to disprove it, show me what he did as Governor, Senator, Representative, Dog Catcher...
People fucking hate Trump. Sorry, they do. Sorry to mention this about your cheating boyfriend, but he doesn't give two fucks about you.
So you choose which Democrat you like, because that's what you're going to get.
Hell, even if Trump gets the nomination (and the conservative movement will be over at that point, a laughingstock that will shatter into a million irrelevant submovements) he'll probably quit in September when his numbers are too low.
Maybe he'll claim Jeb Bush tried to disrupt his daughter's wedding.
What other possibility? Hillary? Bernie? Biden? Warren?
You tell me. Trump is a lifelong Democrat (but he always gets a pass, because I guess that was strategic lying as well) and if you want to disprove it, show me what he did as Governor, Senator, Representative, Dog Catcher...
People fucking hate Trump. Sorry, they do. Sorry to mention this about your cheating boyfriend, but he doesn't give two fucks about you.
So you choose which Democrat you like, because that's what you're going to get.
Hell, even if Trump gets the nomination (and the conservative movement will be over at that point, a laughingstock that will shatter into a million irrelevant submovements) he'll probably quit in September when his numbers are too low.
Maybe he'll claim Jeb Bush tried to disrupt his daughter's wedding.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 13, 2016 01:01 PM (Xd2w5)
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143 Guess whom Trump won't select as his running mate.
Posted by: Decaf
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I'm thinking Fiorina would be a good pick. An outsider ticket and she is skilled at taking Hillary down.
I do think Trump needs a woman on the ticket, female voters are where he's most vulnerable
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (ys5Qo)
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He's not fond of her record, she would not accept anyway, establishment puppet string will be pulled to see to that even if either he or her were consider it.
Posted by: Decaf
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I'm thinking Fiorina would be a good pick. An outsider ticket and she is skilled at taking Hillary down.
I do think Trump needs a woman on the ticket, female voters are where he's most vulnerable
Posted by: Tobasco at January 13, 2016 12:14 PM (ys5Qo)
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He's not fond of her record, she would not accept anyway, establishment puppet string will be pulled to see to that even if either he or her were consider it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 13, 2016 01:04 PM (MbrzC)
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I agree with AmishDude in post #285. Trump will do, and is already doing, extreme damage to the conservative movement. Even RINOs haven't done that. (Though Trump is a RINO in the purest sense of the word.)
Posted by: Laugh it up, Fuzzball! at January 13, 2016 01:05 PM (Es7YA)
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Posted by: AmishDude at January 13, 2016 01:01 PM (Xd2w5)
And you stridently support your cheating boyfriend (the GOP)... who has proven that they to lie to your face... and want to replace you with that hot foreign chick...
Basically.... Trump is SMOD....
And you stridently support your cheating boyfriend (the GOP)... who has proven that they to lie to your face... and want to replace you with that hot foreign chick...
Basically.... Trump is SMOD....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 13, 2016 01:05 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at January 13, 2016 01:05 PM (SLJ40)
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Haley shot her career in the foot. Maybe GOPe will reconstitute as new Democrats. Then her career has a shot.
Posted by: way I see it at January 13, 2016 01:13 PM (Bbcs8)
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185 . . . Why should those of us of families who BUILT this damn country, from
nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my
Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now
live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak
Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because
there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE
HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money....
but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
*
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Not to mention that the U.S. is full. SRO. We need a few no-immigration-AT-ALL years to give us some breathing room.
nothing... PAY for other to bring their third world cultures here?
Me and my ancestors literally shed blood for this country.... yet my
Son is at a competitive disadvantage in the Town in Central Calif I now
live in (and was born in), because he is White, and does not speak
Spanish... because they are not, and have not assimilated... because
there are so many that THEIR culture has become dominant here.
We are PAYING to educate a whole bunch of kids who SHOULD NOT BE
HERE... and that is MY MONEY..... be nice with your own damn money....
but don't use Government Power to be nice with mine.
Being NICE... and being afraid of being labelled, is destroying the very fabric of the US.
*
*
Not to mention that the U.S. is full. SRO. We need a few no-immigration-AT-ALL years to give us some breathing room.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 13, 2016 01:13 PM (PFlOK)
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Trump dunt need no stinkin woman on the ticket, errrr I mean a beautful, angelic, intelligent woman.
He needs an Allen West type. It needs to be shit kickers from top to bottom.
He needs an Allen West type. It needs to be shit kickers from top to bottom.
Posted by: Drider at January 13, 2016 01:14 PM (bdzyz)
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Kamikaze Nikki indeed.
She's in her second term as SC Governor and may not be looking for a third. But if she does run again in 2018 she's now invited a Republican primary challenge which she can very well lose.
Right now, allying herself so visibly with the GOP Establishment is a Really Dumb Move unless she's been promised something really big .... like a gig on K Street. I'm reading her Rebuttal last night as a signal that the GOPe wants her help to try to derail Trump in the upcoming South Carolina primary. But he's way ahead, with Cruz a strong second in the most recent poll. In fact Trump / Cruz / Carson get 70%. While Cruz has an outside chance of beating Trump in SC because of the Holy Roller vote, there's no way that a GOPe candidate does better than a distant third in SC.
Awhile ago I thought Nikki might make an interesting VP choice. Her adultery back story could have been made a "Go and sin no more" positive. No more.
I also thought her delivery last night was wooden. I now suspect that she's actually not very bright.
She's in her second term as SC Governor and may not be looking for a third. But if she does run again in 2018 she's now invited a Republican primary challenge which she can very well lose.
Right now, allying herself so visibly with the GOP Establishment is a Really Dumb Move unless she's been promised something really big .... like a gig on K Street. I'm reading her Rebuttal last night as a signal that the GOPe wants her help to try to derail Trump in the upcoming South Carolina primary. But he's way ahead, with Cruz a strong second in the most recent poll. In fact Trump / Cruz / Carson get 70%. While Cruz has an outside chance of beating Trump in SC because of the Holy Roller vote, there's no way that a GOPe candidate does better than a distant third in SC.
Awhile ago I thought Nikki might make an interesting VP choice. Her adultery back story could have been made a "Go and sin no more" positive. No more.
I also thought her delivery last night was wooden. I now suspect that she's actually not very bright.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 13, 2016 01:17 PM (r1fLd)
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What would you name your new party?
Seems to me, nearly every name is taken by some radical fringe group.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 13, 2016 12:44 PM (fQ/0p)
POFY
Position Of Fuck You
Seems to me, nearly every name is taken by some radical fringe group.
Posted by: RoyalOil at January 13, 2016 12:44 PM (fQ/0p)
POFY
Position Of Fuck You
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at January 13, 2016 01:18 PM (JOG+K)
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...extreme damage to the conservative movement...
Turns out the conservative movement can't get traction.
There is a joke who's punchline is ...He's quit preaching and started meddling...
Everybody likes one or more subsidies. They even get mad if you point out it is a subsidy just like all the subsidies they hate. That is why the conservative movement can't get traction.
Trump found an issue everyone can agree on except the (self selected) Aristocracy. 1776. No open borders without representation.
Turns out the conservative movement can't get traction.
There is a joke who's punchline is ...He's quit preaching and started meddling...
Everybody likes one or more subsidies. They even get mad if you point out it is a subsidy just like all the subsidies they hate. That is why the conservative movement can't get traction.
Trump found an issue everyone can agree on except the (self selected) Aristocracy. 1776. No open borders without representation.
Posted by: way I see it at January 13, 2016 01:19 PM (j2xmV)
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How about Rep Marsha Blackburn (R, TN) as a VP choice?
Reasonable, but very, very tough.
Silly me, fantasizing again. Reality has no place in the DOPe.
Reasonable, but very, very tough.
Silly me, fantasizing again. Reality has no place in the DOPe.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 13, 2016 01:19 PM (MIKMs)
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...her Rebuttal last night...
GOPe Hillary war on women front. GOPe is a wing of the Democratic Crony Capitalist establisment self-selected-aristocracy.
GOPe Hillary war on women front. GOPe is a wing of the Democratic Crony Capitalist establisment self-selected-aristocracy.
Posted by: way I see it at January 13, 2016 01:22 PM (j2xmV)
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" ...extreme damage to the conservative movement...
Turns out the conservative movement can't get traction. "
I have to admit, I am still drying my tears of laughter at those two lines.
I think back as recently as a couple a weeks ago when "those mentioned" funded every socialist wet dream of the past 25 years via that Omnibus bill.
Fact of the matter there is not two parties. The is the Uniparty and in the Uniparty you have some who are more conservative than others but the path that the Uniparty leads too, as a whole, is not a conservative place of the meaning that most here envision.
Trump will break that up thankfully and I for one cannot wait.
Turns out the conservative movement can't get traction. "
I have to admit, I am still drying my tears of laughter at those two lines.
I think back as recently as a couple a weeks ago when "those mentioned" funded every socialist wet dream of the past 25 years via that Omnibus bill.
Fact of the matter there is not two parties. The is the Uniparty and in the Uniparty you have some who are more conservative than others but the path that the Uniparty leads too, as a whole, is not a conservative place of the meaning that most here envision.
Trump will break that up thankfully and I for one cannot wait.
Posted by: Drider at January 13, 2016 01:26 PM (bdzyz)
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Tea Party support for turncoats like Nikki and Marco has to come with strings attached in the future.
Posted by: Valiant at January 13, 2016 01:33 PM (2bqlb)
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Tea Party support for turncoats like Nikki and Marco has to come with strings attached in the future.
Posted by: Valiant at January 13, 2016 01:33 PM (2bqlb)
Tea Party support for these people needs to come not at all if the Tea Party cares at all for its reputation.
Posted by: Valiant at January 13, 2016 01:33 PM (2bqlb)
Tea Party support for these people needs to come not at all if the Tea Party cares at all for its reputation.
Posted by: redbanzai at January 13, 2016 02:16 PM (OrI3J)
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I interpreted her speech as meaning 'I shall retire from public service.'
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 13, 2016 02:24 PM (evdj2)
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Lots of xenophobes here talking like preserving liberty for themselves and their posterity is some kind of laudable goal. There is NO reason for this country not to have the population density of India, the sexual mores of Saudia Arabia, and the prosperity of Africa.
Posted by: Randy M at January 13, 2016 03:05 PM (iwy8d)
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Even though Trump is not really conservative, using SOTU op/ed time to attack him instead of POTUS is, imo, worse than Hitler.
Posted by: Guy Who Thinks Things are Worse than Hitler at January 13, 2016 03:21 PM (Z28wp)
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