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Email: Hillary Personally Ordered Aide to Strip Classified Markings Out of Classified Document and Send It "Nonsecure"
All but one of the 66 messages have been labeled "confidential", the lowest level of classification. The remaining email has been labeled as "secret." The total number of classified emails found on Clinton's personal server has risen to 1,340 with the latest release. Seven of those emails have been labeled "secret." In all, the State Department released 1,262 messages in the early hours of Friday, making up almost 2,900 pages of emails. Unlike in previous releases, none of the messages were searchable in the department's online reading room by subject, sender or recipient.I don't know what significance that has. But....
[O]ne email thread from June 2011 appears to include Clinton telling her top adviser Jake Sullivan to send secure information through insecure means. In response to Clinton's request for a set of since-redacted talking points, Sullivan writes, "They say they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it." Clinton responds "If they can't, turn into nonpaper [with] no identifying heading and send nonsecure."They had trouble sending classified information via a secure fax. So, Clinton told him, just strip out the classified warnings in the header, turn it into "nonpaper" (that is, scan it so it can be sent in email), and send it "nonsecure." This sentence is Hillary Clinton explicitly ordering an underling to violate the most basic laws of confidential information, namely, that classified information cannot be sent except on classified channels. Of course, Hillary's private email server was not a classified channel, but she still wanted the convenience of email, so it appears she routinely ordered people to take classified documents -- physical documents, which were specifically not electronic in order to prevent wide nonsecure transmission via email -- and make them "nonpaper" and send them "nonsecure." This does not appear to be some innovation she's suggesting here -- the flatness of the order, with an air of "do what we usually do," strongly suggests this was the normal course of business in the House of Clinton. But we don't have to go that far: What we now have in our hands is smoking-gun proof of a felony, and not a felony about sex, but instead a felony about the national security of the United States. Remember that Hillary has always offered the lawyerly limitation that she sent no information "marked classified through her email. Well, here we have her ordering Jake Sullivan to strip out those markings. If the FBI does not indict Clinton, two things follow: 1. There is no longer any law against the selling or transmission of classified information. 2. There is no longer any rule of law in the United States of America, and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there is then no longer any United States of America, either. There is simply a rogue gang that has all of the heavy guns, cowing the rest of the populace into compliance. More at Hot Air, including screenshots of the email chain in question. Correction: A commenter points out the FBI doesn't indict people; the DOJ does. The FBI can merely present findings. Well, in that case, I demand the FBI at least scream bloody murder when Loretta Lynch does what we all know Loretta Lynch is going to do. Their institutional honor, and institutional credibility, depends on at least that. "Non-Paper:" Rhomboid writes:
ace, though the context here clearly indicates it is *not* the use of the term intended, "non-paper" is a guvamint/State term for a version of a memo or proposal, intended to have some sort of informal or deniable status. That is, it's a formal sort of trial balloon. But as I said, in this context it clearly seems to be a reference to actual physical paper, fax, vs. electronic version.Next Step? I wonder if Hillary will next claim that she wasn't the person with primary control of her email, and that this must have been done from some underling (who she won't name).
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Saw this....Wish something would come of it...
Posted by: donna at January 08, 2016 12:00 PM (/dSsq)
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LOL< I posted this in the morning thread now it is a flaming skull. She will still skate. Even though they have proof she ordered the felony she is already foisting it off on an aide.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 08, 2016 12:01 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:01 PM (zLP1L)
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She has committed a crime. Why is this hard for the media to report?
It is not an e-mail kerfuffle. It is a crime.
It is not an e-mail kerfuffle. It is a crime.
Posted by: Velma at January 08, 2016 12:01 PM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Gaff at January 08, 2016 12:01 PM (jPS2y)
Posted by: blaster at January 08, 2016 12:02 PM (2Ocf1)
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The FBI won't make it past the DOJ.
Posted by: EFG at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (C+qQ0)
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>>Remember that Hillary has always offered the lawyerly limitation that she sent no information "marked classified through her email.
Which was always the biggest "tell" that this is where they were monkeying around - hiding/deleting classification marking to skirt the intent of the law while claiming to be following it to the letter.
Which was always the biggest "tell" that this is where they were monkeying around - hiding/deleting classification marking to skirt the intent of the law while claiming to be following it to the letter.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (zLP1L)
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Not exactly yoga exercises and recipes after all.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Toastrider at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (MbjKe)
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (xuouz)
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If the FBI does not indict Clinton, two things follow:
1. There is no longer any law against the selling or transmission of classified information.
2. There is no longer any rule of law in the United States of America,
and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there
is then no longer any United States of America, either.
Scankles has never been held accountable for her law breaking and probably will never be charged.
And there hasn't been rule of law with regard to DC in 100 years.
If the FBI does not indict Clinton, two things follow:
1. There is no longer any law against the selling or transmission of classified information.
2. There is no longer any rule of law in the United States of America,
and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there
is then no longer any United States of America, either.
Scankles has never been held accountable for her law breaking and probably will never be charged.
And there hasn't been rule of law with regard to DC in 100 years.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (t2KH5)
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Question: how many of her true-believer voters will abstain from voting for her over this? How many will stop campaigning for her?
The problem is not merely that Hillary was a lawless official. It is also a problem that there are so many people in this country for whom this does not matter.
How many people are there out there who will still cast their vote for her if, next November, she were to be behind bars and wearing an orange pantsuit?
The problem is not merely that Hillary was a lawless official. It is also a problem that there are so many people in this country for whom this does not matter.
How many people are there out there who will still cast their vote for her if, next November, she were to be behind bars and wearing an orange pantsuit?
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (iIzG7)
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Has the smart money in Vegas changed her odds?
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (k8tEg)
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I LOVE the triple burning skulls!!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (NOIQH)
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First Flaming Skull of the new year.
Posted by: HH at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (DrCtv)
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Something tells me that ace thinks that this is big news... I just cant put my finger on it...
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (/ykaN)
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This is about as damning as it can get, but let's be honest, the Obama Justice Dept would rather take its lumps with smoking gun evidence than hand the GOP the White House, even if they dislike the Clintons.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:05 PM (MWLby)
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Ummm. Ace. I love your site, but we have already been living under point 2 for quite well, homes.
Posted by: J at January 08, 2016 12:05 PM (0vdF4)
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So is Joey ready to step in?
Posted by: donna at January 08, 2016 12:05 PM (/dSsq)
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Flaming skulls? Why it is as if this news will be anything more than a minor headline on page twelve of USA Today. The LIV's still think Benghazi is a grunge band and think the email scandal has something to do with somebody hacking her account.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at January 08, 2016 12:05 PM (1BQGO)
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If she doesn't get indicated I think Martha Stewart will strangle her with her bare hands.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at January 08, 2016 12:05 PM (k8tEg)
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Biden would have easily been the nominee, why on Earth did the guy pass on running?
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (MWLby)
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Have to say, ol' Hill does not sound "confused" in that directive.
Granny gonna have a health episode to attempt to escape all this?
Granny gonna have a health episode to attempt to escape all this?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (NOIQH)
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23 If she doesn't get indicated I think Martha Stewart will strangle her with her bare hands.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at January 08, 2016 12:05 PM (k8tEg)
Saying "It's a good thing" while she does so.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at January 08, 2016 12:05 PM (k8tEg)
Saying "It's a good thing" while she does so.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (oKE6c)
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Remember that Hillary has always offered the lawyerly limitation that she sent no information "marked classified through her email.
She may not have "sent" it but she did receive an e-mail on her private server that was stamped top secret.
She likes to parse words.
She may not have "sent" it but she did receive an e-mail on her private server that was stamped top secret.
She likes to parse words.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (t2KH5)
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22 Flaming skulls? Why it is as if this news will be anything more than a minor headline on page twelve of USA Today. The LIV's still think Benghazi is a grunge band and think the email scandal has something to do with somebody hacking her accoun
I'd be surprised if it made the "news?" at all...
I'd be surprised if it made the "news?" at all...
Posted by: donna at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (/dSsq)
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14 Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (iIzG7)
THIS.
Whether it's the leaders or the followers the only thing that matters is the movement. It must be preserved and protected at all costs.
The nation has indeed sunk beneath the waves if this is true, and I fear that it is.
THIS.
Whether it's the leaders or the followers the only thing that matters is the movement. It must be preserved and protected at all costs.
The nation has indeed sunk beneath the waves if this is true, and I fear that it is.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (l2max)
Posted by: Yoga recipe for jail at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (q4hvt)
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A triple flaming skull. Never seen that before.
It would totally deserve the triple flaming skull if we expected...what's the word?...consequences.
It would totally deserve the triple flaming skull if we expected...what's the word?...consequences.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (1xUj/)
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Petraeus was kicked out for less
Posted by: Guy Valkyrie at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (nefLa)
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Nonissue. Hillary will simply say that she had the authority as Secretary of State to make a judgment on the immediacy of the need for the information versus the need to protect it. She'll say it was her call, and she made the call.
Posted by: Wilfred at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (01glF)
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every military person who was ever prosecuted for these type of violations should appeal thier conviction
every military person who was ever prosecuted for these type of violations should appeal thier conviction
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (zOTsN)
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Three skulls for something that won't amount to more than a 2% slide in the polls and certainly won't result in any legal action?
This will get the Maher treatment - Ok, so she broke some technicalities. It's not like there was anything really important in those e-mails or that anything bad happened as a result.
E-mail me my winnings.
This will get the Maher treatment - Ok, so she broke some technicalities. It's not like there was anything really important in those e-mails or that anything bad happened as a result.
E-mail me my winnings.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (Wckf4)
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So?
Her husband sent missile tech to China in the 90's.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
Her husband sent missile tech to China in the 90's.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
Posted by: Jaws at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (Jktp1)
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>>If the FBI does not indict Clinton, two things follow:
It's not the FBI that provides indictments, it's the DoJ. You know, Loretta Lynch's set.
I trust that answers your question.
It's not the FBI that provides indictments, it's the DoJ. You know, Loretta Lynch's set.
I trust that answers your question.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (oKE6c)
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Laws are for the little people.
Posted by: Born Free at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (uGTin)
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Slightly related, I think the Benghazi movie comes out next Friday.
The PR machine for the movie is already kicking in...will see how this is all handled in the press.
The PR machine for the movie is already kicking in...will see how this is all handled in the press.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (NOIQH)
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The will be no indictment
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (QPdNE)
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Oh, this is nothing.
Besides, Hillary! deserves the Presidency.
And if you don't believe that, you hate women and you're a raping raper who rapes rapily.
Oh, this is nothing.
Besides, Hillary! deserves the Presidency.
And if you don't believe that, you hate women and you're a raping raper who rapes rapily.
Posted by: All Fymynysts Everywhere at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (0cMkb)
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Hillary's handling of classified info == Maxwell Smart's Cone of Silence
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (3ZtZW)
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At long last Mrs. Clinton, have you no shame?
Posted by: Zombie Jos. Welch at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (k8tEg)
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Trifecta of burning skulls day!
Good thing I am planning to spend the day in bed, no? Lots to read. xoxo
Good thing I am planning to spend the day in bed, no? Lots to read. xoxo
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:09 PM (7lqMl)
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hiding the recipients? why, people who donated to the Clinton Foundation asking for favors
I hope someone is following the money
I hope someone is following the money
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:09 PM (zOTsN)
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24 Biden would have easily been the nominee, why on Earth did the guy pass on running?
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (MWLby)
He must have been bribed with whatever is left of the state of Delaware that he has not already stolen. But I would bet that if - BIG IF - Clinton does get indicted, she will be thrown over and Joey Bidet drafted. The DNC will break all its rules vis a vis the primary process in a heartbeat to get him at the front of the ticket.
We shall see.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (MWLby)
He must have been bribed with whatever is left of the state of Delaware that he has not already stolen. But I would bet that if - BIG IF - Clinton does get indicted, she will be thrown over and Joey Bidet drafted. The DNC will break all its rules vis a vis the primary process in a heartbeat to get him at the front of the ticket.
We shall see.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:09 PM (zLP1L)
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Biden would have easily been the nominee, why on Earth did the guy pass on running?
Posted by: Tobasco
Because the paste eating SOB got a dead cat bounce every time he tried running before.
He is a beltway bandit and survived thus far because:
1. He comes from a pisshole called Delaware
2. The Wash Post and others covered for him.
Once he emerges from the slime, he tanks.
Posted by: Tobasco
Because the paste eating SOB got a dead cat bounce every time he tried running before.
He is a beltway bandit and survived thus far because:
1. He comes from a pisshole called Delaware
2. The Wash Post and others covered for him.
Once he emerges from the slime, he tanks.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:09 PM (326rv)
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Her husband sent missile tech to China in the 90's.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
Posted by: Jaws at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (Jktp1)
This^^^^^^
He should be in prison.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
Posted by: Jaws at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (Jktp1)
This^^^^^^
He should be in prison.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 08, 2016 12:10 PM (0cMkb)
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But what about BERNIE?!
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:10 PM (xuouz)
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43 Hillary's handling of classified info == Maxwell Smart's Cone of Silence
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (3ZtZW)
The Cone of Silence worked. Her handling of classified info is more like Aldrich Ames.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:08 PM (3ZtZW)
The Cone of Silence worked. Her handling of classified info is more like Aldrich Ames.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:10 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:10 PM (VnEUI)
Posted by: ace at January 08, 2016 12:10 PM (dciA+)
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Amazing.
Posted by: Chris Hayes at January 08, 2016 12:10 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:10 PM (zOTsN)
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Yes, but remember: Her supporters, and they are numerous, don't care. It's Calvinball all the way with them, and if the law says you can't do what she did, then the law, sir, is a ass.
Posted by: JPS at January 08, 2016 12:11 PM (FMHIk)
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Still miss the Blago skull. Do we need to make a Hillary flaming skull in prep for 2016? What would be on it? I'd say a pantsuit swilling booze on fire.
If Trump is nominee the skull practically designs itself...
If Bernie is nominee, flaming skull of "feel the Bern" takes on a whole new meaning.
If Trump is nominee the skull practically designs itself...
If Bernie is nominee, flaming skull of "feel the Bern" takes on a whole new meaning.
Posted by: LizLem at January 08, 2016 12:11 PM (hvf9s)
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Wilfred at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (01glF)
Did you order the Code Red?
You're Goddamn right I did!
*********
Did you order it sent non-secure?
You're Goddamn right I did!
Did you order the Code Red?
You're Goddamn right I did!
*********
Did you order it sent non-secure?
You're Goddamn right I did!
Posted by: EFG at January 08, 2016 12:11 PM (C+qQ0)
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We're past the soapbox and the ballot box; if this witch does not do SERIOUS TIME for this, we're past Third Box territory and well into Fourth Box. And, as so many others here have already mentioned, none of us expect that there will be any actual consequences for her.
That is also a tell.
That is also a tell.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:11 PM (iIzG7)
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I have read, as you smart morons have as well, that if ole cankles is not indicted in about 60 days or so, there is going to be a potential war between the FBI and DOJ. Fun times ahead on the SS Baroque Titanic.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:11 PM (7lqMl)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:12 PM (zLP1L)
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Hope Trump brings this up.
Posted by: HH at January 08, 2016 12:12 PM (DrCtv)
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WHAT ABOUT THE BRITISH IN MALAYA IN THE 50s?!
Posted by: @votermom at January 08, 2016 12:12 PM (cbfNE)
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We are in uncharted territory here. Well for the US anyway. Other countries have taken this route before, but this is a historic first the US. Should rate a footnote in Obama's historic legacy.
About like the Teapot Dome Scandal for whoever it was.
About like the Teapot Dome Scandal for whoever it was.
Posted by: Chinwendu Whitecrest at January 08, 2016 12:12 PM (98+Sc)
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The FBI will not go to war with DOJ over this
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (zOTsN)
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One of the commenters at HA notes that Hill has multiple email addresses, and that she appears to have used one specifically for this type of security law evasion, thus going to intent.
She's done. Bring on Joe Biden!
She's done. Bring on Joe Biden!
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (YXmuI)
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"There is simply a rogue gang that has all of the heavy guns, cowing the rest of the populace into compliance."
War.
War never changes.
War.
War never changes.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (4nmNX)
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@HH
Thank God Trump's around. Could you imagine the weak-sauce we'd get from Jeb as the frontrunner?
Thank God Trump's around. Could you imagine the weak-sauce we'd get from Jeb as the frontrunner?
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (l2max)
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Waiting for NY Slime to tell us this is a forged email.
This makes Rosemary Woods 18 minutes look like child's play.
If the FBI doesn't demand indictment, all hell will break loose.
This makes Rosemary Woods 18 minutes look like child's play.
If the FBI doesn't demand indictment, all hell will break loose.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (jJRIy)
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Seems that white middle class people are the only ones following the rules anymore.
Dangerous times.
Dangerous times.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (sqs5K)
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And yet she will still be the next president.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (t8P62)
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I still think that if hillarity isn't prosecuted for this, but either drops out or loses, then Pres Trump will make her the poster child for any reforms he runs. On day #1, he should show people breaking up an e-mail server and flushing pieces down the toilet.
After that, he can ten lecture the government that as a CEO, if he found someone using the same e-mail type as their 12 year old cousin, they'd be fired.
After that, he can ten lecture the government that as a CEO, if he found someone using the same e-mail type as their 12 year old cousin, they'd be fired.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (326rv)
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FWIW, I "know a guy" that was involved in Biden's Super Pac and he said it really was a last minute decision by Biden, that all systems were go until the very end.
I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I genuinely think Biden had a better shot at winning the Presidency
I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I genuinely think Biden had a better shot at winning the Presidency
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (MWLby)
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So, no longer any Unite States of America as we knew it is......
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (LA7Cm)
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Hey! We know that being anti-vaccine is tantamount to bathing in the blood of dead puppies - are these middle eastern migrants being screened for medical history? Do they meet the basic criteria for attendance at US schools? How do we know? Is the CDC directly involved in guaranteeing this, or does DHS oversee it?
Do middle eastern migrants receive healthcare coverage?
Do middle eastern migrants receive healthcare coverage?
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (4nmNX)
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And if she goes, the Democrat party is going to choose who their next nominee is. Right? Since it's too late to get anyone else on the ballots, and they're not going to let Bernie take it away?
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (l2max)
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The FBI ain't gonna indict nobody, cuz that's not their job. It's Lynch's job. If she doesn't do it, that means she is a criminal, and that's a big problem. Not sure it quite means that the US of A no longer exists. (Personally, I took the Obergefell decision as evidence of the latter.)
Posted by: Özomatli Crüe at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (rszIa)
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1. There is no longer any law against the selling or transmission of classified information.
Oh there still will be for any military member with a Top Secret clearance that screws up and will face harsh penalties.
Although the 3 skulls are flashy, I would think that we could come up with something special for Hillary. A skull with a raggedy blonde wig, holding a bottle of hooch, hovering over a walker.
Oh there still will be for any military member with a Top Secret clearance that screws up and will face harsh penalties.
Although the 3 skulls are flashy, I would think that we could come up with something special for Hillary. A skull with a raggedy blonde wig, holding a bottle of hooch, hovering over a walker.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (oiNtH)
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And, as so many others here have already mentioned, none of us expect that there will be any actual consequences for her.
Not all of us.
Not all of us.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (YXmuI)
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Given that Obama had turned me into a tin-foil hat wearin' conspiracy nut, I would not be surprised if they're holding off on the Hillary indictment until she gets far enough along in the nomination process that the DNC gets to decide on a replacement candidate, someone who is not bruised from months of debates w/other Dems and attacks from GOP candidates.
A Torricelli Maneuver, if you will.
A Torricelli Maneuver, if you will.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (NOIQH)
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Let's name the Flaming Skulls: (which would make a great band name, BTW)
See no evil.
Hear no evil.
Speak no evil.
The MFM Triumvirate, in short.
See no evil.
Hear no evil.
Speak no evil.
The MFM Triumvirate, in short.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (LUgeY)
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Did you know that if the crusaders had bathrooms or e-mail, they would have combined them?
Posted by: Pres. Boyfriend at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (326rv)
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Thank God Trump's around. Could you imagine the weak-sauce we'd get from Jeb as the frontrunner?
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (l2max)
This.
I'm not sure what I think about Trump, but at a minimum he's definitely put the cat among the pigeons on the left. They're terrified, because he laughs off their usual social kryptonite attack on GOP candidates, so they've got no defense.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:13 PM (l2max)
This.
I'm not sure what I think about Trump, but at a minimum he's definitely put the cat among the pigeons on the left. They're terrified, because he laughs off their usual social kryptonite attack on GOP candidates, so they've got no defense.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (oKE6c)
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Nonissue. Hillary will simply say that she had the authority as Secretary of State to make a judgment on the immediacy of the need for the information versus the need to protect it. She'll say it was her call, and she made the call.
WHOSE CALLING BITCH IS THIS?
WHOSE CALLING BITCH IS THIS?
Posted by: rickb223 at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (oqhrS)
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Someone owes Richard Nixon and Rosemary Woods an apology.
Someone owes Warren G. Harding an apology.
Dare I say it? Someone owes Julius and Ethel Rosenberg an apology.
Someone owes Warren G. Harding an apology.
Dare I say it? Someone owes Julius and Ethel Rosenberg an apology.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (iIzG7)
87
the very best we can hope for is that her own party presssures her to quit and she will cite some sort of "health problem" which prevent her from continuing to run
and Liz Warren will ride in on her Appoloosa to save the day
and Liz Warren will ride in on her Appoloosa to save the day
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (9YDUz)
89
This is really serious.
Isn't there some kind of award I could give Hillary! to smooth over this rough spot?
I find this kind of thing so distasteful in a Presidential Contest between men and women of quality.
This is really serious.
Isn't there some kind of award I could give Hillary! to smooth over this rough spot?
I find this kind of thing so distasteful in a Presidential Contest between men and women of quality.
Posted by: Jeb! at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (0cMkb)
90
One law for the nobles, another for the peasants.
Posted by: Toastrider at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (MbjKe)
Yes, except the peasants are pretty heavily armed and a lot have serious experience in waging war.
Posted by: Toastrider at January 08, 2016 12:03 PM (MbjKe)
Yes, except the peasants are pretty heavily armed and a lot have serious experience in waging war.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (t8P62)
91
It should, but this changes nothing, particularly cause the FBI already has this email, and no matter what they think or even recommend Lynch ain't doing squat about it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (MbrzC)
92
ace, though the context here clearly indicates it is *not* the use of the term intended, "non-paper" is a guvamint/State term for a draft version of a memo or proposal, intended to have some sort of informal or deniable status. That is, it's a formal sort of trial balloon. But as I said, in this context it clearly seems to be a reference to actual physical paper, fax, vs. electronic version.
ace, though the context here clearly indicates it is *not* the use of the term intended, "non-paper" is a guvamint/State term for a draft version of a memo or proposal, intended to have some sort of informal or deniable status. That is, it's a formal sort of trial balloon. But as I said, in this context it clearly seems to be a reference to actual physical paper, fax, vs. electronic version.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (QDnY+)
93
There are people in prison today for less than what Hillary has already admitted to.
UltraRome is right.
UltraRome is right.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (evdj2)
94
I wonder what the Hillary camp used to blackmail Obama into forcing Biden to not run.
Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2016 12:16 PM (8HTq1)
95
Bank on it: Jake Sullivan will be indicted. Hillary won't be. That's because Sullivan did the actual act of stripping the classifications and sending the email; Hillary merely ordered him to do it.
Why, BTW, Sullivan didn't refuse is beyond me. After all, his boss ordered him to commit a felony. All I can think is that to achieve high office in the Obama/Clinton administration, you have to check your conscience, and your sense of self-preservation, at the door.
Bank on it: Jake Sullivan will be indicted. Hillary won't be. That's because Sullivan did the actual act of stripping the classifications and sending the email; Hillary merely ordered him to do it.
Why, BTW, Sullivan didn't refuse is beyond me. After all, his boss ordered him to commit a felony. All I can think is that to achieve high office in the Obama/Clinton administration, you have to check your conscience, and your sense of self-preservation, at the door.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 08, 2016 12:16 PM (zcbZo)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 08, 2016 12:16 PM (LoIJo)
97
Flaming Skull Hat Trick!
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 08, 2016 12:16 PM (EUMr7)
98
OT:
Surprise, surprise. The bacteria that ambushed the Philly cop was a Muslim who "did it in the name of Islam."
Shocking, I know.
OT:
Surprise, surprise. The bacteria that ambushed the Philly cop was a Muslim who "did it in the name of Islam."
Shocking, I know.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:16 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (3ZtZW)
100
I think 2016 will be a year full of triple burning skulls...
This one is big, if we choose to make MSM cover this.
i.e. she commanded an underling to break a Federal law.
This one is big, if we choose to make MSM cover this.
i.e. she commanded an underling to break a Federal law.
Posted by: Tony253 at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (3yMFT)
101
>>Thank God Trump's around.
No kidding.
Dang, he's actually gotten the Clinton sex assault stories out there for discussion. Never would have imagined that was possible given how well the Clintons had disappeared that angle of attack.
No kidding.
Dang, he's actually gotten the Clinton sex assault stories out there for discussion. Never would have imagined that was possible given how well the Clintons had disappeared that angle of attack.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (zOTsN)
103
Yeah Ames shopped agents and their lives for cold cash.
Yep, that is Comrade Cankles of the Clinton Criminal Crony Party.
Yep, that is Comrade Cankles of the Clinton Criminal Crony Party.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (VnEUI)
104
Doesn't a crime of this nature normally earn one a blindfold and a cigarette?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (cKwwS)
105
This makes me think about that story going around a day or two ago about Biden regretting not running. He was getting it out there that he's willing to be drafted if Hillary goes down.
Posted by: RedStick at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (SQho9)
106
Someone was wearing clothes?
Well color me out of sync.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (4nmNX)
My tinfoil dirndl isn't just off, it's on my head.
Well color me out of sync.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (4nmNX)
My tinfoil dirndl isn't just off, it's on my head.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (xuouz)
107
If there was a serious alternative to Clinton, stuff like this would be dangerous for her. But its less than a month to Iowa. Its Clinton or bust for the Democrats. Lynch will be a good little party soldier and protect Clinton as much as she can.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at January 08, 2016 12:18 PM (/ykaN)
108
I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I genuinely think Biden had a better shot at winning the Presidency
Posted by: Tobasco
Yeah, because he's so accomplished, so well spoken, from such a large, diverse area, and because of his being black and having a vagina.
I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I genuinely think Biden had a better shot at winning the Presidency
Posted by: Tobasco
Yeah, because he's so accomplished, so well spoken, from such a large, diverse area, and because of his being black and having a vagina.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:18 PM (326rv)
109
Why, BTW, Sullivan didn't refuse is beyond me. After all, his boss
ordered him to commit a felony. All I can think is that to achieve high
office in the Obama/Clinton administration, you have to check your
conscience, and your sense of self-preservation, at the door.
Asked and answered.
ordered him to commit a felony. All I can think is that to achieve high
office in the Obama/Clinton administration, you have to check your
conscience, and your sense of self-preservation, at the door.
Asked and answered.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:18 PM (YXmuI)
110
I'm a Republican, but these personal attacks against Ms. Clinton's integrity and judgment are disturbing. If Ms. Clinton wanted the information sent as quickly as possible, I'm sure she had a good reason.
These sexist insinuations that Ms. Clinton cannot be trusted with national security issues are disgraceful.
Working families want real solutions, not cynical personal attacks.
These sexist insinuations that Ms. Clinton cannot be trusted with national security issues are disgraceful.
Working families want real solutions, not cynical personal attacks.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at January 08, 2016 12:18 PM (Ui7Rt)
111
ace, your #2 is absolutely correct, yet as you probably agree, it's already been the case for some time.
At the top level of govt., it's been true since at least the felony not-about-sex but about perjury (in a sexual harrassment case, which I thought was sacred and central and not just salacious stuff about "sex") of the haggard queen's husband.
More generally, examples abound, but clearly immigration lawlessness is the most advanced, corrosive, and destructive, and it's been around and growing for a few years.
Not that any of this changes your point. Just darkens it a bit. You're welcome!
ace, your #2 is absolutely correct, yet as you probably agree, it's already been the case for some time.
At the top level of govt., it's been true since at least the felony not-about-sex but about perjury (in a sexual harrassment case, which I thought was sacred and central and not just salacious stuff about "sex") of the haggard queen's husband.
More generally, examples abound, but clearly immigration lawlessness is the most advanced, corrosive, and destructive, and it's been around and growing for a few years.
Not that any of this changes your point. Just darkens it a bit. You're welcome!
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:18 PM (QDnY+)
112
This makes me think about that story going around a day or two ago about Biden regretting not running. He was getting it out there that he's willing to be drafted if Hillary goes down.
Posted by: RedStick
I do think that was intentional
Posted by: RedStick
I do think that was intentional
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:18 PM (MWLby)
113
So... if a couple people conspire to break the law, is only one of them guilty of the crime?
If only there was a name for that...
If only there was a name for that...
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:18 PM (l2max)
114
Slow down.
Are talking points classified?
What's different than saying "Strip the headers (?) And send me the cookie recipe over the nonsecure...". ?
Are talking points classified?
What's different than saying "Strip the headers (?) And send me the cookie recipe over the nonsecure...". ?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (WJfcI)
115
>>> and Liz Warren will ride in on her Appoloosa to save the day
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (zOTsN)
*shudders*
Lizzy Warren would combine the "historic first!" female feminists that are Clinton fans and the raging socialists that are Sanders fans. All camps of the dems would be happy camps.
*ponders Warren and Biden duking it out*
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (zOTsN)
*shudders*
Lizzy Warren would combine the "historic first!" female feminists that are Clinton fans and the raging socialists that are Sanders fans. All camps of the dems would be happy camps.
*ponders Warren and Biden duking it out*
Posted by: LizLem at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: rd at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (Ltj2h)
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (xWW96)
118
>>Why, BTW, Sullivan didn't refuse is beyond me. After all, his boss ordered him to commit a felony.
Hillary has a gang of employees who follower her from job to job; they work for Hillary, not State, not her Senate office, not the foundation. Hillary.
Hillary brought over 70 people with her to State to ensure that she had a loyal staff to do her bidding and protect her from scrutiny.
Hillary has a gang of employees who follower her from job to job; they work for Hillary, not State, not her Senate office, not the foundation. Hillary.
Hillary brought over 70 people with her to State to ensure that she had a loyal staff to do her bidding and protect her from scrutiny.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (NOIQH)
119
The laws are for you. The spoils go to those who make the laws and faithfully execute them, against you.
Posted by: jon corzine's tan at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (o+GWN)
120
Biden would have easily been the nominee, why on Earth did the guy pass on running?
====
I'm convinced Hillary told them she'd go scorched-earth. Biden's speech was an announcing one, Barry was there as emotional support, the whole thing was very abrupt.
She had something on him, and my suspicion is that Biden was the one who made the call re: Benghazi.
====
I'm convinced Hillary told them she'd go scorched-earth. Biden's speech was an announcing one, Barry was there as emotional support, the whole thing was very abrupt.
She had something on him, and my suspicion is that Biden was the one who made the call re: Benghazi.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (3ZtZW)
121
"Why, BTW, Sullivan didn't refuse is beyond me"
IIRC, anyone authorized to so much as lay eyes on classified material at any level in government has received specific training from The Powers That Be on all the things you cannot do with the material - for instance, strip off headers, cross the air gaps, or stuff them in your socks. "I was confused," "it was my call," and "I didn't know it was a violation" WILL SIMPLY NOT FLY with anyone who understands the protocols.
IIRC, anyone authorized to so much as lay eyes on classified material at any level in government has received specific training from The Powers That Be on all the things you cannot do with the material - for instance, strip off headers, cross the air gaps, or stuff them in your socks. "I was confused," "it was my call," and "I didn't know it was a violation" WILL SIMPLY NOT FLY with anyone who understands the protocols.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (iIzG7)
122
Point 1) if this was you or me we would be cooling our heels in a jail cell. Clinton? Who fucking knows anymore? And THAT is the greatest crime of Obama - we no longer know if blatant crimes will be punished, ever.
Point 2) released on a Friday, and not searchable? My guess is this is an attempt to bury this news. Lotsa luck. There may even be more nuggets buried in there.
Point 3) Presidential pardon. Just saying
Point 2) released on a Friday, and not searchable? My guess is this is an attempt to bury this news. Lotsa luck. There may even be more nuggets buried in there.
Point 3) Presidential pardon. Just saying
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (FzvkV)
123
I wonder what the Hillary camp used to blackmail Obama into forcing Biden to not run.
Posted by: steevy
Biden has been a beltway bandit since January 1973. He's made an ass of himself in committees for decades. he worked with the Clintons.
There's no shortage of shit on the asshole.
Posted by: steevy
Biden has been a beltway bandit since January 1973. He's made an ass of himself in committees for decades. he worked with the Clintons.
There's no shortage of shit on the asshole.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (326rv)
124
someone who is not bruised from months of debates w/other Dems and attacks from GOP candidates.
A Torricelli Maneuver, if you will.
Rahm might be available.
A Torricelli Maneuver, if you will.
Rahm might be available.
Posted by: DaveA at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (DL2i+)
125
>>Dare I say it? Someone owes Julius and Ethel Rosenberg an apology.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (iIzG7)
Let's not go overboard here.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (iIzG7)
Let's not go overboard here.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (oKE6c)
126
102 the FBI cannot tell the DOJ what to do
all they can do is leak damaging information
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (zOTsN)
---
and watch the administration jump on those leakers lickity split with charges, while they ignore the subject of the leaks.
all they can do is leak damaging information
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:17 PM (zOTsN)
---
and watch the administration jump on those leakers lickity split with charges, while they ignore the subject of the leaks.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (MbrzC)
127
So?
Her husband sent missile tech to China in the 90's.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
He's directly responsible for 9/11 by not taking OBL when offered to him.
He destroyed my career, too.
Needless to say, I don't think much of him, his family, or anything else about him.
Her husband sent missile tech to China in the 90's.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
He's directly responsible for 9/11 by not taking OBL when offered to him.
He destroyed my career, too.
Needless to say, I don't think much of him, his family, or anything else about him.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (LUgeY)
128
Sullivan, just doing what Sandy Burglar couldn't do this time.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (VnEUI)
129
and the dems only force Hillary out if Obama tell them he has instructed DOJ to file because he prefers another candidate
he has spent his entire poltiical career getting opponants DQd from races rather than run against them
he holds all the cards. If he tells DOJ to file, its only because he has another candidate in mind and he already has the DNC approval
so the question is, will Obama kill the Clinton Machine and for who
I think he may, and for Liz Warren as long as she picks Patrick as her veep
he has spent his entire poltiical career getting opponants DQd from races rather than run against them
he holds all the cards. If he tells DOJ to file, its only because he has another candidate in mind and he already has the DNC approval
so the question is, will Obama kill the Clinton Machine and for who
I think he may, and for Liz Warren as long as she picks Patrick as her veep
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (zOTsN)
130
Hillary should just come up with her own version of Otter's famous speech at the Delta trial in Animal House:
http://tinyurl.com/The-Otter-Defense
http://tinyurl.com/The-Otter-Defense
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:20 PM (t8P62)
131
114 Slow down.
Are talking points classified?
What's different than saying "Strip the headers (?) And send me the cookie recipe over the nonsecure...". ?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (WJfcI)
Let's play a game.
No, the talking points weren't classified.
Now YOU tell ME what WAS classified, such that "classified" needed to be stripped from the headers.
Are talking points classified?
What's different than saying "Strip the headers (?) And send me the cookie recipe over the nonsecure...". ?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 08, 2016 12:19 PM (WJfcI)
Let's play a game.
No, the talking points weren't classified.
Now YOU tell ME what WAS classified, such that "classified" needed to be stripped from the headers.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (xuouz)
132
It's time for some pure speculation...
Democrats have a choice - to reestablish a façade of the rule of law or to blatantly snub it.
If they believe Hillary has a chance at winning the election, they will ignore any laws or principles and stick with their gal. However, if they believe she's going to lose to Trump, and worse still, lose big, no democrat would have any problem throwing her under the bus.
As mentioned in an earlier comment, I believe they're looking for an opportunity to bring someone in who will generate more excitement.
Hillary gets led off in cuffs and the next day - George Clooney steps in.
Celeb versus Celeb.
Democrats have a choice - to reestablish a façade of the rule of law or to blatantly snub it.
If they believe Hillary has a chance at winning the election, they will ignore any laws or principles and stick with their gal. However, if they believe she's going to lose to Trump, and worse still, lose big, no democrat would have any problem throwing her under the bus.
As mentioned in an earlier comment, I believe they're looking for an opportunity to bring someone in who will generate more excitement.
Hillary gets led off in cuffs and the next day - George Clooney steps in.
Celeb versus Celeb.
Posted by: jwest at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (Zs4uk)
133
87 the very best we can hope for is that her own party presssures her to quit and she will cite some sort of "health problem" which prevent her from continuing to run and Liz Warren will ride in on her Appoloosa to save the day
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (zOTsN)
I'm sure that's plan B if Hillary can't weather the storm(s).
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:15 PM (zOTsN)
I'm sure that's plan B if Hillary can't weather the storm(s).
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (oKE6c)
134
"If the FBI doesn't demand indictment, all hell will break loose."
I wish we lived in that reality, but we don't. The truth is that the only way all hell breaks loose is if there IS an indictment.
In the end, DC is a company town and those who depend on it do not want their apple cart upset. A fat gummint paycheck is worth more than self respect to the vast majority of our "public servants".
I wish we lived in that reality, but we don't. The truth is that the only way all hell breaks loose is if there IS an indictment.
In the end, DC is a company town and those who depend on it do not want their apple cart upset. A fat gummint paycheck is worth more than self respect to the vast majority of our "public servants".
Posted by: Jaws at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (Jktp1)
135
114: they wouldn't be sending that cookie recipe by secure fax in the first place.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (UBzPO)
136
I'm a Republican, but these personal attacks against Ms. Clinton's integrity and judgment are disturbing. If Ms. Clinton wanted the information sent as quickly as possible, I'm sure she had a good reason.
These sexist insinuations that Ms. Clinton cannot be trusted with national security issues are disgraceful.
Working families want real solutions, not cynical personal attacks.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein
You're my kinda woman. You have a pulse. C'mere.
These sexist insinuations that Ms. Clinton cannot be trusted with national security issues are disgraceful.
Working families want real solutions, not cynical personal attacks.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein
You're my kinda woman. You have a pulse. C'mere.
Posted by: Delaware's own Joe Biden at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (326rv)
137
I think it's becoming apparent to the Dems that Hillary is a train wreck, and a guaranteed loser in Nov. She won't step down voluntarily, but if she's forced out now, Bernie becomes the nominee, which is even worse for their party, as they're still pretending they aren't full out socialists.
I have a feeling, once Hillary gets enough primary wins to secure the nomination, talk of an indictment will quietly escalate. Bernie will have dropped out, Hillary cops a plea and steps down for health reasons, and the dems try to select some young minority/woman to run as a fresh, charismatic face against the GOP nominee.
I have a feeling, once Hillary gets enough primary wins to secure the nomination, talk of an indictment will quietly escalate. Bernie will have dropped out, Hillary cops a plea and steps down for health reasons, and the dems try to select some young minority/woman to run as a fresh, charismatic face against the GOP nominee.
Posted by: Grimaldi at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (usMTt)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (VnEUI)
139
The Cone of Silence worked.
===
They couldn't hear each other but anyone outside could easily understand what was being said.
===
They couldn't hear each other but anyone outside could easily understand what was being said.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (3ZtZW)
140
Her husband sent missile tech to China in the 90's.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
Posted by: Jaws at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (Jktp1)
The book "Year of the Rat: How Bill Clinton Compromised US Security for Chinese Cash," by Ed Timperlake, is really good and goes into all that. It's infuriating.
Morals, laws, and consequences are for the little people.
Posted by: Jaws at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (Jktp1)
The book "Year of the Rat: How Bill Clinton Compromised US Security for Chinese Cash," by Ed Timperlake, is really good and goes into all that. It's infuriating.
Posted by: Mainah at January 08, 2016 12:21 PM (659DL)
141
>>>ace, though the context here clearly indicates it is *not* the use of the term intended, "non-paper" is a guvamint/State term for a draft version of a memo or proposal, intended to have some sort of informal or deniable status. That is, it's a formal sort of trial balloon. But as I said, in this context it clearly seems to be a reference to actual physical paper, fax, vs. electronic version.
thank you, rhomboid.
thank you, rhomboid.
Posted by: ace at January 08, 2016 12:22 PM (dciA+)
142
71 And yet she will still be the next president.
Posted by: Sharkman
I don't know why people think that. She's not likable enough and Trump tricked her into kneejerk running on bringing millions more muslims to the U.S.
Posted by: Sharkman
I don't know why people think that. She's not likable enough and Trump tricked her into kneejerk running on bringing millions more muslims to the U.S.
Posted by: x at January 08, 2016 12:22 PM (57fhp)
143
I'm sure it's been mentioned, but can you imagine if this was Rubio or Cruz? If they had treated classified info received as a result of the committees they sit on in this manner?
The end of their Presidential aspirations would be the least of their worries.
The end of their Presidential aspirations would be the least of their worries.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:22 PM (gW5Vg)
144
Point 3) Presidential pardon. Just saying
Won't happen, and even if it did, so what? Her political career is pining for the fjords. She just doesn't know it yet.
Won't happen, and even if it did, so what? Her political career is pining for the fjords. She just doesn't know it yet.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:22 PM (YXmuI)
145
You have to parse what the Clintons say. When Hillary said that "nothing she got on her unsecured e-mail server was marked classified" that was literally true. But those of us with half a brain said at the time "how could you be Secretary of State and never have gotten an e-mail that was supposed to be classified?"
The answer is that someone had to copy and paste classified e-mails off the secure government system to forward them to Hillary's unsecured home brew server. When they did they didn't include the labels. So this wasn't some oversight but an actual conspiracy to workaround government security.
Until now the smart money was on the bet that Hillary was insulated and someone in Hillary's circle would take the fall but probably not Huma, and certainly not Cheryl. My money was on the guy who pled the Fifth before the Gowdy Commission. Now Hillary is implicated.
I don't see how Comey can ignore this.
If I've got it right, these e-mails are being made public by the efforts of Judicial Watch. Comey may have a lot more because he has Hillary's entire server. Pay-for-play Clinton Cash could come into the mix and is more damning.
Developing ....
The answer is that someone had to copy and paste classified e-mails off the secure government system to forward them to Hillary's unsecured home brew server. When they did they didn't include the labels. So this wasn't some oversight but an actual conspiracy to workaround government security.
Until now the smart money was on the bet that Hillary was insulated and someone in Hillary's circle would take the fall but probably not Huma, and certainly not Cheryl. My money was on the guy who pled the Fifth before the Gowdy Commission. Now Hillary is implicated.
I don't see how Comey can ignore this.
If I've got it right, these e-mails are being made public by the efforts of Judicial Watch. Comey may have a lot more because he has Hillary's entire server. Pay-for-play Clinton Cash could come into the mix and is more damning.
Developing ....
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (r1fLd)
146
Posted in last thread:
MadTV was an excellent show. They had fallow periods, but when they were on point it was so goddamn funny.
So
many favorite skits that I still watch from time to time. Will Sasso in
the storytime sketches where he was this popular children's host in
years past but now he's a raging alcoholic. Hilarious fucking shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vMaPsg0u6k
They
had a guy on there, Michael McDonald, who pretty much was the funniest
guy on television for many years. One of my favorites is his Patrick
character, a mentally retarded guy who proceeds to demolish anyone
talking to him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbSaAk9W3CY
"What's your name young man?"
"I'm Patrick and I'm 32."
Hilarious stuff.
MadTV was an excellent show. They had fallow periods, but when they were on point it was so goddamn funny.
So
many favorite skits that I still watch from time to time. Will Sasso in
the storytime sketches where he was this popular children's host in
years past but now he's a raging alcoholic. Hilarious fucking shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vMaPsg0u6k
They
had a guy on there, Michael McDonald, who pretty much was the funniest
guy on television for many years. One of my favorites is his Patrick
character, a mentally retarded guy who proceeds to demolish anyone
talking to him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbSaAk9W3CY
"What's your name young man?"
"I'm Patrick and I'm 32."
Hilarious stuff.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Weasel at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (6xtq3)
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rickb223 raises an interesting point - but I don't think Hillary would have had classification/de-classification authority such that she could do this legally.
But I am not sure. It all depends on who had classified the info originally. Usually such stuff is intel-based and therefore State would not have declassification authority, but it's impossible to say without knowing the specifics.
Bear in mind, however, that there *is* a slight technical possibility that this angle may enter into the legality of some of the shenanigans involving classified info being improperly transmitted via email.
rickb223 raises an interesting point - but I don't think Hillary would have had classification/de-classification authority such that she could do this legally.
But I am not sure. It all depends on who had classified the info originally. Usually such stuff is intel-based and therefore State would not have declassification authority, but it's impossible to say without knowing the specifics.
Bear in mind, however, that there *is* a slight technical possibility that this angle may enter into the legality of some of the shenanigans involving classified info being improperly transmitted via email.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (QDnY+)
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She's like Capone....murder, rape, stealing billions she's free as a bird but one little slip up on one little ol'tiny email thingee.....off to the slammer. She probably has the Syph like Al did too.
Hope she gets raped in prison.....but she would probably like it. Or do the raping.
Hope she gets raped in prison.....but she would probably like it. Or do the raping.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (ej1L0)
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The end of their Presidential aspirations would be the least of their worries.
That's the point. She should be in jail, but I'll settle for her losing her life's aspiration.
That's the point. She should be in jail, but I'll settle for her losing her life's aspiration.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (YXmuI)
Posted by: Chinwendu Whitecrest at January 08, 2016 12:24 PM (98+Sc)
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Have a raging lefty friend in Iowa (when we don't talk politics she is otherwise sane.) She is 100% behind Hillary and has been posting images of her at Hillary rallies beaming like a kid at Christmas.
I don't do politics on social media, I refuse. But if I did I would love to ask her about this. I suspect I already know what type of head in the sand reaction I'd get tho. Futile.
I don't do politics on social media, I refuse. But if I did I would love to ask her about this. I suspect I already know what type of head in the sand reaction I'd get tho. Futile.
Posted by: LizLem at January 08, 2016 12:24 PM (hvf9s)
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2. There is no longer any rule of law in the United States of America, and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there is then no longer any United States of America, either
---it will be addressed by our media helpmates as a made up republican scandal, as everything has been :going to actual war without approval ,fast and furious- benghazi- even scandals resulting in the death of others is made up scandals by anyone that mentions them.
we already lost what we thought was a country of leaders that know honor. The fact those we might even have respected once upon a time have remained mostly silent through this jokefest of progressive leadership is even more telling.
---it will be addressed by our media helpmates as a made up republican scandal, as everything has been :going to actual war without approval ,fast and furious- benghazi- even scandals resulting in the death of others is made up scandals by anyone that mentions them.
we already lost what we thought was a country of leaders that know honor. The fact those we might even have respected once upon a time have remained mostly silent through this jokefest of progressive leadership is even more telling.
Posted by: willow at January 08, 2016 12:24 PM (iLoHX)
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Doesn't a crime of this nature normally earn one a blindfold and a cigarette?
If you're Biily Jeff during a visit to Pedo Island, then yes.
If you're Biily Jeff during a visit to Pedo Island, then yes.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 12:24 PM (LUgeY)
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Hillary brought over 70 people with her to State to ensure that she had a loyal staff to do her bidding and protect her from scrutiny.
Posted by: Lizzy
Exactly. Like the two women in the basement of State who were shredding documents on the weekend. Her own brand of 'ladies in waiting'.
Posted by: Lizzy
Exactly. Like the two women in the basement of State who were shredding documents on the weekend. Her own brand of 'ladies in waiting'.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:24 PM (oiNtH)
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Huma, what were you doing using my email account? On June 17, 2011? At 8:21 A.M.?
Posted by: Hillary R. Clinton at January 08, 2016 12:24 PM (4Kwb9)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:24 PM (iIzG7)
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150 The end of their Presidential aspirations would be the least of their worries.
That's the point. She should be in jail, but I'll settle for her losing her life's aspiration.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (YXmuI)
I can now understand how death squads appear in banana republics.
Just an observation.
That's the point. She should be in jail, but I'll settle for her losing her life's aspiration.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (YXmuI)
I can now understand how death squads appear in banana republics.
Just an observation.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (zLP1L)
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That's the point. She should be in jail, but I'll settle for her losing her life's aspiration.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (YXmuI)
I want to see her lose sooooo bad. Not necessarily because I think "our" side is going to do anything wonderful. No, I want to see the utter and complete meltdown of this bitch when she realizes that she's done.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (YXmuI)
I want to see her lose sooooo bad. Not necessarily because I think "our" side is going to do anything wonderful. No, I want to see the utter and complete meltdown of this bitch when she realizes that she's done.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (gW5Vg)
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I have a feeling, once Hillary gets enough primary wins to secure the nomination, talk of an indictment will quietly escalate. Bernie will have dropped out, Hillary cops a plea and steps down for health reasons, and the dems try to select some young minority/woman to run as a fresh, charismatic face against the GOP nominee.
Posted by: Grimaldi
This. It's what JEF wants. I still doubt that Biden would run, since his chances are worse. Unless they saddle him with the aforementioned minority/vagina or minority vagina as VP.
Posted by: Grimaldi
This. It's what JEF wants. I still doubt that Biden would run, since his chances are worse. Unless they saddle him with the aforementioned minority/vagina or minority vagina as VP.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (326rv)
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Much of it will also turn on how likely it looks that Hillary will win.
Early on, Hillary was leading every GOP opponent by around 20 points. In that environment, no way would the FBI try to and enforce the law. But a losing candidate, they would probably find more courage.
If this report is true, I think Comey will recommend an indictment and then it will be up to Lynch to actually prosecute. They won't do that unless they have someone like Biden in the wings waiting
Early on, Hillary was leading every GOP opponent by around 20 points. In that environment, no way would the FBI try to and enforce the law. But a losing candidate, they would probably find more courage.
If this report is true, I think Comey will recommend an indictment and then it will be up to Lynch to actually prosecute. They won't do that unless they have someone like Biden in the wings waiting
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (MWLby)
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The Clinton family should be treated the same as any mafia family, but it won't be so long as it controls law enforcement.
Posted by: My Ridiculously Circuitous Plan at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (FohCt)
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Eureka! A flaming turkey!
Posted by: Fritz at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (UzPAd)
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Ignoramus: "Pay-for-play Clinton Cash could come into the mix and is more damning."
Exactly the topic I was going to raise. Don't know about "more" damning, but deadly serious too.
Yeah, maybe more damning. Turning the State Dept. into a Third World foreign ministry of a small corrupt dictatorship, where govt. policy is mostly determined by auction to interested parties, *does* have a distinctively repulsive and spectacular smell to it.
Which is saying something, given the astonishing degradation of the country and its institutions the last few years.
Ignoramus: "Pay-for-play Clinton Cash could come into the mix and is more damning."
Exactly the topic I was going to raise. Don't know about "more" damning, but deadly serious too.
Yeah, maybe more damning. Turning the State Dept. into a Third World foreign ministry of a small corrupt dictatorship, where govt. policy is mostly determined by auction to interested parties, *does* have a distinctively repulsive and spectacular smell to it.
Which is saying something, given the astonishing degradation of the country and its institutions the last few years.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:26 PM (QDnY+)
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the only way she is indicted is if Obama wants her out. he may. he has a long history of using negative information to force opponants out of races
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:26 PM (zOTsN)
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Hope she gets raped in prison.....but she would probably like it. Or do the raping.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (ej1L0)
Thees eez MY kitchen, Piper. You don't know how HARD I've worked to keep eet runnink. And nussing will keep me from beink HERE, vere I belong.
Now lay down.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (ej1L0)
Thees eez MY kitchen, Piper. You don't know how HARD I've worked to keep eet runnink. And nussing will keep me from beink HERE, vere I belong.
Now lay down.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:26 PM (xuouz)
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According to what I've been reading, the FBI will go into full rebellion mode if they recommend and indictment and Lynch won't do it.
And the FBI has ALL the dirt on EVERYONE.
See; 2016's turning out better than last year already.
And the FBI has ALL the dirt on EVERYONE.
See; 2016's turning out better than last year already.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 08, 2016 12:26 PM (Xo1Rt)
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@57...someone should design a flaming skull of her from the photo of ole booze-hound with a shot glass in a plane. The one of her hanging onto a handle thing like on a subway, but on the plane. She looks totally baked in that one.
Make sure her skull is wearing her cross-hatched googly glasses, too, that she wore in the Benghazi trial post done fall down.
This morning:
Hummer: Hilz, darling, wake up! Here is your morning OJ with the special "vitamin."
Hilz: grognbillthatmothafocker. Coughs up a hairball. Puts on google glasses and sees about four Hummers. Farhts.
Hummer: The news is not good. Some bad, very bad, emails released.
Hilz: wut? Horks booger and inspects it on tissue. Hoists up petards under flannel gown.
Hummer: News not good. Here is another vitamin.
Hilz: glugs down OJ and pills. Belches like an old bar fly. Ponders. Notes Depends needs changing.
Hummer: What shall I tell staff? Are you well or unwell today?
knock on door
Willy Peyronie's: Hilz? Hummer? She up?
Hilz: throws new lamp at door. (Note: a new lamp is needed daily).
Willy P.: Ok! Good morning' to you! Off to shoot some holes...winks at his ss guy.
Hummer: Darling, there is also the issue we need to discuss of donors. That dude in CA is backing out.
Hilz:throws Depends at Hummer, who flees until vitamins kick in. Examines tunics for bright neon pink one that commands attention. Or something. Checks pockets for battery pack that enables her biomechanical knees to bend. Charged. Ready for day about 4pm.
Make sure her skull is wearing her cross-hatched googly glasses, too, that she wore in the Benghazi trial post done fall down.
This morning:
Hummer: Hilz, darling, wake up! Here is your morning OJ with the special "vitamin."
Hilz: grognbillthatmothafocker. Coughs up a hairball. Puts on google glasses and sees about four Hummers. Farhts.
Hummer: The news is not good. Some bad, very bad, emails released.
Hilz: wut? Horks booger and inspects it on tissue. Hoists up petards under flannel gown.
Hummer: News not good. Here is another vitamin.
Hilz: glugs down OJ and pills. Belches like an old bar fly. Ponders. Notes Depends needs changing.
Hummer: What shall I tell staff? Are you well or unwell today?
knock on door
Willy Peyronie's: Hilz? Hummer? She up?
Hilz: throws new lamp at door. (Note: a new lamp is needed daily).
Willy P.: Ok! Good morning' to you! Off to shoot some holes...winks at his ss guy.
Hummer: Darling, there is also the issue we need to discuss of donors. That dude in CA is backing out.
Hilz:throws Depends at Hummer, who flees until vitamins kick in. Examines tunics for bright neon pink one that commands attention. Or something. Checks pockets for battery pack that enables her biomechanical knees to bend. Charged. Ready for day about 4pm.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (7lqMl)
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As a number of people have noted, the FBI is the DOJ's investigative arm. It doesn't have the power to indict, and only makes recommendations to the DOJ. I recommend this thoughtful Powerline piece on the potential coming schism between the FBI and DOJ over what to do with Hillary. Anyway, this is a quibble with Ace's overall point, which stands: if the U.S. government does nothing about this, the rule of law is deeply harmed.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/01/will-hillary-be-indicted.php
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/01/will-hillary-be-indicted.php
Posted by: gts109 at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (KIvt1)
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She'll wipe it with a cloth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (FkBIv)
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Rhomboid at a guess a group tasked with determining if a document can be declassified would not just be one person but a group.
Unless Hillary! had her own personal declassification group that included herself, Huma, Sullivan, and a couple other boot-lickers.
Plus there is always a set time before a document can be run through the declassification process.
I guess the only proviso would be a desperate time-sensitive window that someone needs to be informed. But I think I've only seen that happen in novels and movies.
Unless Hillary! had her own personal declassification group that included herself, Huma, Sullivan, and a couple other boot-lickers.
Plus there is always a set time before a document can be run through the declassification process.
I guess the only proviso would be a desperate time-sensitive window that someone needs to be informed. But I think I've only seen that happen in novels and movies.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (VnEUI)
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Don't worry, we got this.
Posted by: CNNNBCBSABCMSNBBC at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (5buP8)
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77
And if she goes, the Democrat party is going to choose who their
next nominee is. Right? Since it's too late to get anyone else on the
ballots, and they're not going to let Bernie take it away?
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (l2max)
This explains Hair Plugs latest, I am sorry I didn't run bull shit.
Code for, PLEASE Draft me!
And if she goes, the Democrat party is going to choose who their
next nominee is. Right? Since it's too late to get anyone else on the
ballots, and they're not going to let Bernie take it away?
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (l2max)
This explains Hair Plugs latest, I am sorry I didn't run bull shit.
Code for, PLEASE Draft me!
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (jJRIy)
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That's the point. She should be in jail, but I'll settle for her losing her life's aspiration.
Posted by: pep
Fund raising? Once she stops running, any reason for 'donating' to the Clinton foundation goes bye bye. She has to keep going for that alone.
Posted by: pep
Fund raising? Once she stops running, any reason for 'donating' to the Clinton foundation goes bye bye. She has to keep going for that alone.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (326rv)
175
This too, shall pass. *hic*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (La6jE)
176
TP meant toilet paper. Cheap vodka gives me the runs. Hiccup.
Posted by: Grandma Hillary at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (OD2ni)
177
Nothing will happen to her. You see, Hillary is a "Made Man". Ya can't put a hit on her unless you have a sit down with Pauly and get his blessing. Til then, she's untouchable.
Posted by: Scont at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (AGtIR)
178
I have a theory I've been working on for awhile. I think Obama *wants* a Republican to win. Here it goes:
1) Obama has said that after he is no longer president he wants to go back to 'community organizing.'
2) Obama does not like Hillary and only offered her the job of Sec'y of State so that she would shut up about things like the birther stuff and his hijacking of the primary process. He needed their support to run for president after she lost. Hillary Bill weren't going to give it unless they got something in return.
3) Obama likely told Biden to stand down on a run for president to leave Clinton as the best option Democrats had.
4) He will indict her for her crimes and hope to take her out of the running. He can claim he has no control over the 'law' and as much as he hates to see Hillary go through this, he cannot get involved. She made her own bed.
5) When a Republican wins the presidency, Obama will have an 'enemy' to go after in his post-presidency career. This will allow him to stay in the public eye, give him a way to amass $$, and affect policy changes or continue the growth of such groups as Black Lives Matter in order to create instability in the U.S.
We'll see if my theory comes true. Just remember, Obama does not like the Clintons. He would likely do anything he could to take them out...he just needs to make it appear like he cannot do anything about it, or the Clintons will take him out.
1) Obama has said that after he is no longer president he wants to go back to 'community organizing.'
2) Obama does not like Hillary and only offered her the job of Sec'y of State so that she would shut up about things like the birther stuff and his hijacking of the primary process. He needed their support to run for president after she lost. Hillary Bill weren't going to give it unless they got something in return.
3) Obama likely told Biden to stand down on a run for president to leave Clinton as the best option Democrats had.
4) He will indict her for her crimes and hope to take her out of the running. He can claim he has no control over the 'law' and as much as he hates to see Hillary go through this, he cannot get involved. She made her own bed.
5) When a Republican wins the presidency, Obama will have an 'enemy' to go after in his post-presidency career. This will allow him to stay in the public eye, give him a way to amass $$, and affect policy changes or continue the growth of such groups as Black Lives Matter in order to create instability in the U.S.
We'll see if my theory comes true. Just remember, Obama does not like the Clintons. He would likely do anything he could to take them out...he just needs to make it appear like he cannot do anything about it, or the Clintons will take him out.
Posted by: K-E at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (kIEau)
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I wonder if Bill will ask for congenital visits with Hillary in the federal slammer. I'm guessing no.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (xWW96)
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Re 131. Depends on the header. They just said that the secure fax *machine* is down... Maybe they use that for Chelsea's cookie recipes. Why use two machines when one is closer. Lazy people do that in an office.
I don't know what's in the header. Could be classified or she just doesn't want it searchable.
Again, are Talking Points classified? If so, you really couldn't ...talk..about them, right?
Otoh, why are TP in paper form?
I don't know what's in the header. Could be classified or she just doesn't want it searchable.
Again, are Talking Points classified? If so, you really couldn't ...talk..about them, right?
Otoh, why are TP in paper form?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (WJfcI)
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Wildly, insanely OT:
The reviews for that movie "The Forest" are just brutal.
Hollywood must've really fucked up what should've been a great idea for a tense psychological/ghost horror movie.
The reviews for that movie "The Forest" are just brutal.
Hollywood must've really fucked up what should've been a great idea for a tense psychological/ghost horror movie.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (0cMkb)
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if they pick Warren they wont risk offending the angry old biddy vote, and could pick up the socialist Sanders vote
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (zOTsN)
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"Strip The Classification"
"Send The Information"
Those are both classic yoga positions you friggin wingers
*hic*
"Strip The Classification"
"Send The Information"
Those are both classic yoga positions you friggin wingers
*hic*
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (8XRCm)
184
and watch the administration jump on those leakers lickity split with charges, while they ignore the subject of the leaks.
Again, so what? This admin is gone in 11 months. It would take that long to file the charges and let everyone lawyer up. President Cruz dismisses the charges and thanks the people who stood up to corruption.
Again, so what? This admin is gone in 11 months. It would take that long to file the charges and let everyone lawyer up. President Cruz dismisses the charges and thanks the people who stood up to corruption.
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (YXmuI)
185
I want to see her lose sooooo bad. Not necessarily
because I think "our" side is going to do anything wonderful. No, I want
to see the utter and complete meltdown of this bitch when she realizes
that she's done.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (gW5Vg)
Agreed. Because she wanted it too badly for all the wrong reasons. Poetic justice it would be.
because I think "our" side is going to do anything wonderful. No, I want
to see the utter and complete meltdown of this bitch when she realizes
that she's done.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (gW5Vg)
Agreed. Because she wanted it too badly for all the wrong reasons. Poetic justice it would be.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (4ErVI)
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This makes me think about that story going around a day or two ago about Biden regretting not running. He was getting it out there that he's willing to be drafted if Hillary goes down.
Posted by: RedStick
I do think that was intentional
Assuming, and I know this is a stretch, that the GOP is going to shoot itself in the dick and we're going to get a D, isn't Biden preferable to Hillary?
Posted by: RedStick
I do think that was intentional
Assuming, and I know this is a stretch, that the GOP is going to shoot itself in the dick and we're going to get a D, isn't Biden preferable to Hillary?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:29 PM (1xUj/)
187
>>I have read, as you smart morons have as well, that if ole cankles is not indicted in about 60 days or so, there is going to be a potential war between the FBI and DOJ. Fun times ahead on the SS Baroque Titanic.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:11 PM (7lqMl)
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Can someone explain to me just what this means? All I get out of it is the FBI yells "She's a criminal!" and Lynch yells "She is not!" and the FBI yells "Is too!" and Lynch yells "Is not!" and finally they both get sore throats and the whole thing is over.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:11 PM (7lqMl)
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Can someone explain to me just what this means? All I get out of it is the FBI yells "She's a criminal!" and Lynch yells "She is not!" and the FBI yells "Is too!" and Lynch yells "Is not!" and finally they both get sore throats and the whole thing is over.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:29 PM (pC96u)
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Classified information? Never heard of it.
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 08, 2016 12:29 PM (OD2ni)
189
This. It's what JEF wants. I still doubt that Biden would run, since his chances are worse. Unless they saddle him with the aforementioned minority/vagina or minority vagina as VP.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (326rv)
Biden and Michelle.... willing, ready, tested! (lol)
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:25 PM (326rv)
Biden and Michelle.... willing, ready, tested! (lol)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:29 PM (MbrzC)
190
I've always liked congenital visits.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 08, 2016 12:29 PM (La6jE)
191
Sarah Palin bought a used tanning bed!
Posted by: Associated Press at January 08, 2016 12:29 PM (Ui7Rt)
192
On the Merry-Go Round of Presidential aspirations, hopefully this disaster will finally deny Hillary! her brass ring.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:29 PM (VnEUI)
193
For the two, maybe three of you who think that there will be some sort of significant consequence that Hillary will face...given her well-established patterns of lawbreaking, malfeasance, and general ineptitude, why is this time going to be any different?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (Wckf4)
194
If there was tape of Hillary handing China the NOC list from Mission Impossible with a bow on it, she still wouldn't be indicted
Posted by: Jollyroger at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (t06LC)
195
plus Warren is more "outsidery" than Biden
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (zOTsN)
196
147 Triple Burning Skeleton Heads?
Triple?
Have we seen this before?
Posted by: Weasel at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (6xtq3)
By the time the election happens, Ace's posts will resemble the Cosby "He said She said She said She said ..." front page.
This election is going to be very close.
Triple?
Have we seen this before?
Posted by: Weasel at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (6xtq3)
By the time the election happens, Ace's posts will resemble the Cosby "He said She said She said She said ..." front page.
This election is going to be very close.
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (DofIg)
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177
Nothing will happen to her. You see, Hillary is a "Made Man". Ya can't
put a hit on her unless you have a sit down with Pauly and get his
blessing. Til then, she's untouchable.
Posted by: Scont at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (AGtIR)
They still put the drop on Billy Batts. Sure Tommy died for it later, but Billy still moldered in the ground.
Nothing will happen to her. You see, Hillary is a "Made Man". Ya can't
put a hit on her unless you have a sit down with Pauly and get his
blessing. Til then, she's untouchable.
Posted by: Scont at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (AGtIR)
They still put the drop on Billy Batts. Sure Tommy died for it later, but Billy still moldered in the ground.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (4ErVI)
198
Next Step? I wonder if Hillary will next claim that she wasn't
the person with primary control of her email, and that this must have
been done from some underling (who she won't name).
Not an excuse. If I leave my CAC out where other people can access it, and thus my e-mail, I'm liable. That's just for unclassified. If there was the possibility of classified, as she indisputably knew because she set it up that way, she's guilty, Guilty, GUILTY!
the person with primary control of her email, and that this must have
been done from some underling (who she won't name).
Not an excuse. If I leave my CAC out where other people can access it, and thus my e-mail, I'm liable. That's just for unclassified. If there was the possibility of classified, as she indisputably knew because she set it up that way, she's guilty, Guilty, GUILTY!
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (YXmuI)
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Agreed. Because she wanted it too badly for all the wrong reasons. Poetic justice it would be.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (4ErVI)
I want to see the moment it hits her. All the years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer (at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
You lose bitch.
And I want to see that fucking cunt crumble.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM (4ErVI)
I want to see the moment it hits her. All the years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer (at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
You lose bitch.
And I want to see that fucking cunt crumble.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (gW5Vg)
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I did a image search of Jake Sullivan and he looked as I suspected (beta wuss).
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (OD2ni)
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I did this today:
Tuned into an 80's station and drove around pretending RReagan was president. It was nice while it lasted.
Tuned into an 80's station and drove around pretending RReagan was president. It was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (5buP8)
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I don't know why people think that. She's not likable enough and Trump tricked her into kneejerk running on bringing millions more muslims to the U.S.
Posted by: x at January 08, 2016 12:22 PM (57fhp)
Because for the last 2 presidential elections the Dems have stuffed ballot boxes in the key states they need to carry to win, and they'll do it again for Hillary. Their whining about Diebold voting machines in 2004 was cover for their own illegalities.
She will never be indicted for anything, and she'll be the next president.
Posted by: x at January 08, 2016 12:22 PM (57fhp)
Because for the last 2 presidential elections the Dems have stuffed ballot boxes in the key states they need to carry to win, and they'll do it again for Hillary. Their whining about Diebold voting machines in 2004 was cover for their own illegalities.
She will never be indicted for anything, and she'll be the next president.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (t8P62)
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193 For the two, maybe three of you who think that there will be some sort of significant consequence that Hillary will face...given her well-established patterns of lawbreaking, malfeasance, and general ineptitude, why is this time going to be any different?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (Wckf4)
Paper trail.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (Wckf4)
Paper trail.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (xWW96)
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I'd like to believe this is a country where something like this matters, but c'mon, do you really think anybody cares about emails anymore? Everyone knows Hillz is corrupt and most people view email classification as a click of the mouse, no one cares, it's all just sims playtime to most people.
Posted by: All Teh Meh at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (wEq+O)
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they only way this will be different is if Obama wants her gone. He may. Or he may just not a give a shit
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (zOTsN)
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And as the brass ring of President Sauron permanently fades out of reach dissolving in the hot magma of her unprincipled lust for power, I want her to scream like a cat discovering the last can of tuna in the world is empty - "My precious!!!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (VnEUI)
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Ok, if she isn't indicted before the convention, can we start discussing the tree of liberty and how to best fertilize it???
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 08, 2016 12:32 PM (LoIJo)
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"Their institutional honor, and institutional credibility, depends on at least that."
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Maybe we'd be better off if they had none. Honor and credibility allow them to insulate themselves, and they shouldn't - unitary executive and all.
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Maybe we'd be better off if they had none. Honor and credibility allow them to insulate themselves, and they shouldn't - unitary executive and all.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 12:32 PM (gmeXX)
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>>Nonissue. Hillary will simply say that she had the authority as Secretary of State to make a judgment on the immediacy of the need for the information versus the need to protect it. She'll say it was her call, and she made the call.
Posted by: Wilfred at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (01glF)
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Seems plausible. But while it sounds good for public consumption, is there such a legal provision?
Posted by: Wilfred at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (01glF)
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Seems plausible. But while it sounds good for public consumption, is there such a legal provision?
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:32 PM (pC96u)
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178.
Obama hates the Republicans FAR more than the Clintons, and a Republican in the White House for 2016 will be (rightly) viewed by most people as a repudiation of a 3rd term for Obama.
So I'm in the camp that thinks unless they have a substitution to make like Biden, they would rather let the "rule of law" be a joke than hand the White House over and start repealing Obama's "accomplishments".
Obama hates the Republicans FAR more than the Clintons, and a Republican in the White House for 2016 will be (rightly) viewed by most people as a repudiation of a 3rd term for Obama.
So I'm in the camp that thinks unless they have a substitution to make like Biden, they would rather let the "rule of law" be a joke than hand the White House over and start repealing Obama's "accomplishments".
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:32 PM (MWLby)
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And I want to see that fucking cunt crumble.
There are certain strings of words that you should never try to visualize in your mind.
There are certain strings of words that you should never try to visualize in your mind.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:32 PM (1xUj/)
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any reason for 'donating' to the Clinton foundation goes bye bye.
Like every other phony currency on the planet one slip and Kaboom.
Like every other phony currency on the planet one slip and Kaboom.
Posted by: DaveA at January 08, 2016 12:33 PM (DL2i+)
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Why didn't I run?
Oh ya, because the FBI is going to file the charges at a time which will make it a brokered convention
Oh ya, because the FBI is going to file the charges at a time which will make it a brokered convention
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 08, 2016 12:33 PM (LoIJo)
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BCochran is Muab'dib with that last sentence which is a killing phrase.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:33 PM (VnEUI)
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I knew this already, but Sid Blumenthal is certifiably insane. Holy crap.
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 08, 2016 12:33 PM (OD2ni)
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vast right wing conspiracy
Posted by: brak at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (xwPSp)
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I like that this could really drag out. LLynch refuses to prosecute, Republican congress hauls her in to testify...oh, wait. Sorry. Next comment please...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (5buP8)
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If the GOPe fails to fail, the Dems will need Joe-Joe Binks to ride their November rescue.
Posted by: t-bird at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (3U4+k)
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Nothing will happen to her. You see, Hillary is a "Made Man". Ya can't put a hit on her unless you have a sit down with Pauly and get his blessing. Til then, she's untouchable.
Posted by: Scont
The fact that this is even getting out and being reported is proof that she's no longer untouchable.
It's being done by the obama faction, but it's being done. I still think that they were counting on her to drop out, so as to not issue an indictment. But if she stops running, the influence and the money stops.
They do NOT have to issue an indictment. The drip-drip will continue, and by the convention, she'll be abandoned. And obama will again appear to be above it all.
Posted by: Scont
The fact that this is even getting out and being reported is proof that she's no longer untouchable.
It's being done by the obama faction, but it's being done. I still think that they were counting on her to drop out, so as to not issue an indictment. But if she stops running, the influence and the money stops.
They do NOT have to issue an indictment. The drip-drip will continue, and by the convention, she'll be abandoned. And obama will again appear to be above it all.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (326rv)
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iforgot--if the fbi recommended indictment, and the doj ignored it, you might see a public break between the two agencies, perhaps resignations. It wouldn't be world-ending, but would signal to anyone paying attention that the fix is in, and that the federal gov'ts law enforcement was hopelessly corrupt and politically motivated.
Posted by: gts109 at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (KIvt1)
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RE: "all the FBI can do is leak"
I dissent. Saturday Night Massacre, anyone?
When Nixon ordered the AG to fire special counsel Archibald Cox, the AG resigned (Elliot Richardson) & so did the Deputy AG (Ruckleshouse, I think. This brought Nixon down.
If Director Comey were to resign in protest (of a Lynch decision not to prosecute), as Richardson did, I think that might bring down HRC's candidacy.
I dissent. Saturday Night Massacre, anyone?
When Nixon ordered the AG to fire special counsel Archibald Cox, the AG resigned (Elliot Richardson) & so did the Deputy AG (Ruckleshouse, I think. This brought Nixon down.
If Director Comey were to resign in protest (of a Lynch decision not to prosecute), as Richardson did, I think that might bring down HRC's candidacy.
Posted by: mnw at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (mzTVj)
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Can you imagine the turmoil behind the scenes?
If Hillary is ready to be indicted, the whole Clinton crime empire would crumble. Insiders would be tripping over each other trying to make deals that keep them out of prison.
The Obama/Outsiders who were not part of the Clinton orbit would be working overtime to purge all the Clintonistas and nail every coffin shut to insure they never come back in power.
Can't wait to see this play out.
If Hillary is ready to be indicted, the whole Clinton crime empire would crumble. Insiders would be tripping over each other trying to make deals that keep them out of prison.
The Obama/Outsiders who were not part of the Clinton orbit would be working overtime to purge all the Clintonistas and nail every coffin shut to insure they never come back in power.
Can't wait to see this play out.
Posted by: jwest at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (Zs4uk)
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5) When a Republican wins the presidency, Obama will have an 'enemy' to go after in his post-presidency career. This will allow him to stay in the public eye, give him a way to amass $$, and affect policy changes or continue the growth of such groups as Black Lives Matter in order to create instability in the U.S.
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I've had such thoughts as well, not so much that buy design he wants an R to win, but that he's perfectly ok with that outcome for exactly item #5 you mention, something to do immediately following his presidency and assures lots of money will flow to whatever organization he sets up, and you know he'll set one up. Thought of him retiring to HI and staying mostly quiet are pipe dreams, I don't even think he'll give it week before he starts slamming who ever the new person is (including Hillary).
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I've had such thoughts as well, not so much that buy design he wants an R to win, but that he's perfectly ok with that outcome for exactly item #5 you mention, something to do immediately following his presidency and assures lots of money will flow to whatever organization he sets up, and you know he'll set one up. Thought of him retiring to HI and staying mostly quiet are pipe dreams, I don't even think he'll give it week before he starts slamming who ever the new person is (including Hillary).
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (MbrzC)
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Like the media is going to let this story get any oxygen
Posted by: Ambassador Stevens at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (LoIJo)
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For the two, maybe three of you who think that there will be some sort of significant consequence that Hillary will face...given her well-established patterns of lawbreaking, malfeasance, and general ineptitude, why is this time going to be any different?
Posted by: Burn the Witch
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Most of Hillary and Bill's prior scandals were "this looks unethical" but it wasn't smoking gun evidence of law breaking.
The one time where he was "dead to rights" was perjury about the Lewinsky scandal, where he was at least disbarred.
Posted by: Burn the Witch
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Most of Hillary and Bill's prior scandals were "this looks unethical" but it wasn't smoking gun evidence of law breaking.
The one time where he was "dead to rights" was perjury about the Lewinsky scandal, where he was at least disbarred.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:35 PM (MWLby)
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216 vast right wing conspiracy
Posted by: brak at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (xwPSp)
That reminds me. I really need to do that tshirt.
I'm thinking a simple black shirt with with nice white block letters that say "VRWC".
Posted by: brak at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (xwPSp)
That reminds me. I really need to do that tshirt.
I'm thinking a simple black shirt with with nice white block letters that say "VRWC".
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:35 PM (gW5Vg)
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*"Paper trail."*
There have been plenty of paper trails before, and not just for Hillary. Benghazi, Lois Lerner, Fast and Furious all immediately come to mind.
So, question still stands.
There have been plenty of paper trails before, and not just for Hillary. Benghazi, Lois Lerner, Fast and Furious all immediately come to mind.
So, question still stands.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:35 PM (Wckf4)
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I want to see the moment it hits her. All the
years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer
(at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and
collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
You lose bitch.
And I want to see that fucking cunt crumble.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (gW5Vg)
Amen, brother.
years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer
(at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and
collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
You lose bitch.
And I want to see that fucking cunt crumble.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (gW5Vg)
Amen, brother.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 08, 2016 12:35 PM (wtvvX)
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Just holy shit!
I've handled classified myself. Confidential is REALLY low-level stuff. Show up at work on your first day with your birth certiicate, and they give you a Confidential clearance on the spot.
I think of Secret as "regular" classified stuff. Depending on how hamstrung the govt bureaucracy is, it can take months for your secret clearance to come through. Kind of serious, but not End of the World stuff. For "Special Access" (sometime called "Compartmentalized"), I hear it's almost like a Top Secret. I knew a guy who forgot to put one of those documents down before he left the area to go to the men's room, realized it, freaked, and scurried back to the secure area. A round trip of maybe 50 yards, but I think he got sent home for about a week without pay.
On that same program there was a management guy like Clinton who considered himself above the rules (and we weren't about to cross him). Mostly, he would pressure others to bend or break the rules, but generally had deniability. Certainly he never left a paper trail that proved he broke any rules.
This is really brazen. I know they let the Clintons get away with everything, but how do they justify letting her skate on something THIS brazen?
I've handled classified myself. Confidential is REALLY low-level stuff. Show up at work on your first day with your birth certiicate, and they give you a Confidential clearance on the spot.
I think of Secret as "regular" classified stuff. Depending on how hamstrung the govt bureaucracy is, it can take months for your secret clearance to come through. Kind of serious, but not End of the World stuff. For "Special Access" (sometime called "Compartmentalized"), I hear it's almost like a Top Secret. I knew a guy who forgot to put one of those documents down before he left the area to go to the men's room, realized it, freaked, and scurried back to the secure area. A round trip of maybe 50 yards, but I think he got sent home for about a week without pay.
On that same program there was a management guy like Clinton who considered himself above the rules (and we weren't about to cross him). Mostly, he would pressure others to bend or break the rules, but generally had deniability. Certainly he never left a paper trail that proved he broke any rules.
This is really brazen. I know they let the Clintons get away with everything, but how do they justify letting her skate on something THIS brazen?
Posted by: Optimizer at January 08, 2016 12:35 PM (/q6+P)
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When Nixon ordered the AG to fire special counsel Archibald Cox, the AG resigned (Elliot Richardson) & so did the Deputy AG (Ruckleshouse, I think. This brought Nixon down.
Today's trivium: who stepped in and finally was willing to fire Cox?
(It's a name you know)
Today's trivium: who stepped in and finally was willing to fire Cox?
(It's a name you know)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (1xUj/)
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"When Nixon ordered the AG to fire special counsel Archibald Cox..."
Richard Nixon was a dirty Cox-sacker.
Richard Nixon was a dirty Cox-sacker.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (iIzG7)
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willow: "The fact those we might even have respected once upon a time have remained mostly silent through this jokefest of progressive leadership is even more telling."
What she said.
And just to emphasize the incredible state we've reached, recall that just a few years ago, the despicable breaches of security to ruin key intelligenge sources/methods during time of war (the SWIFT financial one and the "warrantless" wiretaps one) resulted in ..... not one resignation, prosecution, or week of leave-without-pay.
While the utter non-issue of the "sixteen words" of a presidential address accurately reflecting a solid intel assessment by a foreign intel service, and the utter non-issue of the origins of an inconsequential private assessment mission for the CIA (incl. identity/relationship of one of the staff involved) not only was a "scandal!", but resulted in an actual prosecution.
We have been well beyond the speechless stage of degradation and orwellian dystopia for some time, by US standards.
willow: "The fact those we might even have respected once upon a time have remained mostly silent through this jokefest of progressive leadership is even more telling."
What she said.
And just to emphasize the incredible state we've reached, recall that just a few years ago, the despicable breaches of security to ruin key intelligenge sources/methods during time of war (the SWIFT financial one and the "warrantless" wiretaps one) resulted in ..... not one resignation, prosecution, or week of leave-without-pay.
While the utter non-issue of the "sixteen words" of a presidential address accurately reflecting a solid intel assessment by a foreign intel service, and the utter non-issue of the origins of an inconsequential private assessment mission for the CIA (incl. identity/relationship of one of the staff involved) not only was a "scandal!", but resulted in an actual prosecution.
We have been well beyond the speechless stage of degradation and orwellian dystopia for some time, by US standards.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (QDnY+)
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15 to life means more honeys without any strife
Posted by: Bill from Chappaqua at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (LoIJo)
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James Comey has publicly stated that if the DoJ does not indict Clinton if they recommend it, he will resign in protest.
James Comey has publicly stated that if the DoJ does not indict Clinton if they recommend it, he will resign in protest.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (zLP1L)
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When Nixon ordered the AG to fire special counsel Archibald Cox, the AG resigned (Elliot Richardson) & so did the Deputy AG (Ruckleshouse, I think. This brought Nixon down.
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Nixon should have just fired the special prosecutor himself.
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Nixon should have just fired the special prosecutor himself.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (gmeXX)
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Look...the bottom line is free shit, warmening and ghey marriage. Period.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (La6jE)
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I wonder if Bill will ask for congenital visits with Hillary in the federal slammer. I'm guessing no.Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:28 PM
Conjugal?
Congenial?
I assume 'congenital' was intentional?
Conjugal?
Congenial?
I assume 'congenital' was intentional?
Posted by: Ben Dover D'uh edition at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (fbovC)
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201 I did this today:
Tuned into an 80's station and drove around pretending RReagan was president. It was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (5buP
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flashbackradio dot com (all 80's all the time, and not just popular stuff)
Tuned into an 80's station and drove around pretending RReagan was president. It was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (5buP
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flashbackradio dot com (all 80's all the time, and not just popular stuff)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (MbrzC)
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And as the brass ring of President Sauron permanently fades out of reach dissolving in the hot magma of her unprincipled lust for power, I want her to scream like a cat discovering the last can of tuna in the world is empty - "My precious!!!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (VnEUI)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (VnEUI)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (t8P62)
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This week Ace and a lot of the conservative blogs/sites like The DC had a story yesterday with "INSIDERS" saying that the FBI will go into open rebellion if DOJ doesn't prosecute with the vigor and determination the DOJ went after Gen. Petraeus.
Then I see a few blogs/sites with stories saying Biden regrets not running.
I have never thought The Arkansas Bitch would see the inside of a cell but I do think the message being sent by (?) is that Hillary! should put her campaign on hiatus and spend more time with the grandkid.
Then I see a few blogs/sites with stories saying Biden regrets not running.
I have never thought The Arkansas Bitch would see the inside of a cell but I do think the message being sent by (?) is that Hillary! should put her campaign on hiatus and spend more time with the grandkid.
Posted by: CozMark at January 08, 2016 12:37 PM (CbGSW)
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"I did this today:
Tuned into an 80's station and drove around pretending RReagan was president. It was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM"
I was watching Back to the Future with my son a few weeks ago. During the beginning when Marty was riding his skateboard around town with Huey Lewis playing in the background, I explained that 1985 was such a great time to be alive.
Tuned into an 80's station and drove around pretending RReagan was president. It was nice while it lasted.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM"
I was watching Back to the Future with my son a few weeks ago. During the beginning when Marty was riding his skateboard around town with Huey Lewis playing in the background, I explained that 1985 was such a great time to be alive.
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 08, 2016 12:37 PM (OD2ni)
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It's my understanding that the FBI does more than 'present findings', they can recommend an indictment, which would mean a refusal by the DOJ would be at odds with the agency that actually conducted an investigation. If this happens then Ace is right and we will cease living in a country rule by law.
Posted by: Ryan at January 08, 2016 12:37 PM (NQeWt)
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Well, in that case, I demand the FBI at least scream bloody murder when Loretta Lynch does what we all know Loretta Lynch is going to do.
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By the way, this isn't Loretta Lynch's decision. Either Obama prosecutes her or he doesn't.
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By the way, this isn't Loretta Lynch's decision. Either Obama prosecutes her or he doesn't.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 12:37 PM (gmeXX)
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If Obama decides to take out Hillary!, it won't be until late in the process and his VP pick is in place.
That avoids all chaos and any effective opposition to put Bernie in place.
DNC just moves VP candidate to Prez. Obama gets to load the ticket with two of his picks.
MSM will celebrate this as the greatest ticket evah!
And the perfect counter to- Trump? Cruz? and their Ticket of Eeeeeeeevil(TM).
Blank slate with an ethnic face will be the Dims main play for a long time.
That avoids all chaos and any effective opposition to put Bernie in place.
DNC just moves VP candidate to Prez. Obama gets to load the ticket with two of his picks.
MSM will celebrate this as the greatest ticket evah!
And the perfect counter to- Trump? Cruz? and their Ticket of Eeeeeeeevil(TM).
Blank slate with an ethnic face will be the Dims main play for a long time.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 08, 2016 12:37 PM (0cMkb)
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Damn, now I really regret not running!
Posted by: Joey Choo Choo Biden at January 08, 2016 12:37 PM (TxJGV)
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>>I want to see the moment it hits her.
Don't we all.
There's a reason the "Hitler's Downfall" clip is a meme.
I doubt we'll have the opportunity, though. Maybe she'll have a massive stroke instead...
Don't we all.
There's a reason the "Hitler's Downfall" clip is a meme.
I doubt we'll have the opportunity, though. Maybe she'll have a massive stroke instead...
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:37 PM (NOIQH)
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230 Robert Bork fired Cox.
Posted by: Alf767 at January 08, 2016 12:38 PM (VtSj9)
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230 Today's trivium: who stepped in and finally was willing to fire Cox?
(It's a name you know)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (1xUj/)
Bork?
(It's a name you know)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (1xUj/)
Bork?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:38 PM (zLP1L)
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" Since it's too late to get anyone else on the
ballots, and they're not going to let Bernie take it away?"
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (l2max)
It's too late for people who follow rules to get on the ballet, but not for democrats.
We've seen this scenario play out for a senate seat and the laws were toss out in favor of the dems.
ballots, and they're not going to let Bernie take it away?"
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 08, 2016 12:14 PM (l2max)
It's too late for people who follow rules to get on the ballet, but not for democrats.
We've seen this scenario play out for a senate seat and the laws were toss out in favor of the dems.
Posted by: jwest at January 08, 2016 12:38 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 12:38 PM (fWAjv)
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Think about this. Why do we have these emails? A sketchy web site called Vice sued to get them.
The MSM had no interest at all. Think about that. No interest in criminal behavior by the Sec of State.
They are whores
The MSM had no interest at all. Think about that. No interest in criminal behavior by the Sec of State.
They are whores
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 08, 2016 12:38 PM (jJRIy)
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Hillary Rodham? Never heard of her
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (LoIJo)
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And I want to see that fucking cunt crumble.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (gW5Vg)
Your lips to God's ears. Please.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (gW5Vg)
Your lips to God's ears. Please.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (5buP8)
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For the record, there's only been a double-skull ONCE, right? I don't think it was an Ace post, but I forget (how could I forget a thing like that?)
So, if I'm not mistaken, this a triple skull is a first-ever event.
So, again, "Holy shit!"
So, if I'm not mistaken, this a triple skull is a first-ever event.
So, again, "Holy shit!"
Posted by: Optimizer at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (/q6+P)
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Robert Bork.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (zLP1L)
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Downfall clip + Hillary = "Sandy Steiner will come."
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (VnEUI)
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I think that Trump will have a field day with this along with the goading about Billy Jeff's pervy ways.
The best thing is that Trump gets his message out loudly despite the media and then they are forced to report on it as he will hammer them as well.
The best thing is that Trump gets his message out loudly despite the media and then they are forced to report on it as he will hammer them as well.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (oiNtH)
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Ok, if she isn't indicted before the convention, can we start discussing the tree of liberty and how to best fertilize it???
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 08, 2016 12:32 PM (LoIJo)
No, because we cannot have violence in response to the creation of a totalitarian and utterly lawless regime on US territory. Doing so would be soooooo Eighteenth Century.
We must work within the [rigged] system.
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at January 08, 2016 12:32 PM (LoIJo)
No, because we cannot have violence in response to the creation of a totalitarian and utterly lawless regime on US territory. Doing so would be soooooo Eighteenth Century.
We must work within the [rigged] system.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (t8P62)
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I have never thought The Arkansas Bitch would see the inside of a cell but I do think the message being sent by (?) is that Hillary! should put her campaign on hiatus and spend more time with the grandkid.
Posted by: CozMark
Yupper. it's the Chicago way.
Posted by: CozMark
Yupper. it's the Chicago way.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (326rv)
261
Richard Nixon was a dirty Cox-sacker.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (iIzG7)
*Polite (but warm) applause from the gallery*
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (iIzG7)
*Polite (but warm) applause from the gallery*
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (xuouz)
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One of the reasons the left had to bork Bork.
Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (8HTq1)
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Can Ace put a pantsuit on the triple flaming skulls?
Posted by: Timon at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (KSonr)
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Rush is telling entertaining stories of him being invited to NYC cocktail parties and the reactions he gets when he shows up.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (/rMpO)
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Speaking of cu*%s, click Hufpo for a good laugh.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (5buP8)
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2. There is no longer any rule of law in the United States of America, and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there is then no longer any United States of America, either.
There is simply a rogue gang that has all of the heavy guns, cowing the rest of the populace into compliance.
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ding ding ding
Winner winner
There is simply a rogue gang that has all of the heavy guns, cowing the rest of the populace into compliance.
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ding ding ding
Winner winner
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (fWAjv)
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At this very moment Herself is skating past the Triple Flaming Skulls, saying "La-di-da, you can't touch me" and laughing all the way.
It infuriates me she'll get away with this and all the other bullshit she has pulled. What a skank.
It infuriates me she'll get away with this and all the other bullshit she has pulled. What a skank.
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (3rpaY)
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*"The one time where he was "dead to rights" was perjury about the Lewinsky scandal, where he was at least disbarred."*
Wasn't that the Paula Jones case? Anyway, none of it had any appreciable effect on Clinton. He was disbarred? Oooooh, I'm sure that really stung.
So again, I'm not seeing anything which might contradict a well-established pattern here.
Wasn't that the Paula Jones case? Anyway, none of it had any appreciable effect on Clinton. He was disbarred? Oooooh, I'm sure that really stung.
So again, I'm not seeing anything which might contradict a well-established pattern here.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (Wckf4)
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230 Robert Bork fired Cox.
Posted by: Alf767
Correct! Alf beats Sefton by one post.
Alf, you may have a cookie or a shot of Bourbon, as you prefer.
Posted by: Alf767
Correct! Alf beats Sefton by one post.
Alf, you may have a cookie or a shot of Bourbon, as you prefer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (1xUj/)
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Yeah, it's all been said before, including this exact story, which has been circulating the bowels of the internet for months.
Love the last line of the original post. We are and have been without the rule of law for years.
In what alternate universe can people push to have students punished for "crimes" not charged?
Any number of other situations could have been used, I just picked that one out of my ass to show that a big chunk of Americans don't care about Law, they care about Power.
Those same folks will happily vote for Hellary, while blaming "rethuglicans" for smearing her good name.
Get your blue foam finger here! Half off with a donation to the DNCC!
Love the last line of the original post. We are and have been without the rule of law for years.
In what alternate universe can people push to have students punished for "crimes" not charged?
Any number of other situations could have been used, I just picked that one out of my ass to show that a big chunk of Americans don't care about Law, they care about Power.
Those same folks will happily vote for Hellary, while blaming "rethuglicans" for smearing her good name.
Get your blue foam finger here! Half off with a donation to the DNCC!
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (kKHcp)
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So, again, "Holy shit!"
Posted by: Optimizer at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (/q6+P)
Because the writing is on the wall for this bitch.
Everyone buckle up, 2016 is going to be LOCO
Posted by: Optimizer at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (/q6+P)
Because the writing is on the wall for this bitch.
Everyone buckle up, 2016 is going to be LOCO
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:40 PM (xuouz)
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Who's the brother that was governor of MA? He or the Hispanic mayor from TX are going to be on their ticket.
Joey and a minority.
Joey and a minority.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (jJRIy)
273
Do orange jumpsuits have creases?
Posted by: David Brooks at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (LoIJo)
274
Rush tells about getting lectured to about the necessities of gun control by a RINO at one of these cocktail parties.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (/rMpO)
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (t8P62)
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Bjork 2016?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (VnEUI)
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262 One of the reasons the left had to bork Bork.
Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (8HTq1)
Bork was perhaps one of the strongest originalists since Joseph Story. They had to destroy him.
Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (8HTq1)
Bork was perhaps one of the strongest originalists since Joseph Story. They had to destroy him.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (zLP1L)
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You know who this helps?
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (Ui7Rt)
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276 Who is taller Bjork or AtC?
Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (8HTq1)
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275 J.J.:
Heh. That's an awesome site.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (t8P62)
Full disclosure: I've been kind of on an extended hiatus due to a welcome surge of actual paying work, but I hope to be back in the new year.
Heh. That's an awesome site.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:41 PM (t8P62)
Full disclosure: I've been kind of on an extended hiatus due to a welcome surge of actual paying work, but I hope to be back in the new year.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (zLP1L)
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@164 Rhomboid re: Pay-for play Clinton Cash
If charges are only on e-mails, Hillary will say it's hyper technical, asked and answered a million times already, and my servants screwed up.
The bigger the target, the bigger the bullet you need.
Pay-for-play is corruption, selling your office for personal gain. Nearly everyone understands that it's really bad. Many Democrats will stay home in November 2016 if well documents charges get in the public domain, either by indictment or by leak or by a Comey resignation.
If charges are only on e-mails, Hillary will say it's hyper technical, asked and answered a million times already, and my servants screwed up.
The bigger the target, the bigger the bullet you need.
Pay-for-play is corruption, selling your office for personal gain. Nearly everyone understands that it's really bad. Many Democrats will stay home in November 2016 if well documents charges get in the public domain, either by indictment or by leak or by a Comey resignation.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (r1fLd)
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Of course, Hillary is responsible for this, but how come no one is talking about how this happened on Obama's watch? I refuse to believe that not a single soul at the White House knew what Hillary was doing.
Posted by: Eli Cash at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (a+WIL)
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If it's all the same to y'all, I'll just wait for Hillary and her team to explain how the vast right wing conspiracy made her commit these felonies.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Ahad ha'am) at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (BZAd3)
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rickb223 raises an interesting point -
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (QDnY+)
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It was Wilfred at #34. It bears quoting for relevance.
As does rhomboid's point, where I think I see Hillary's escape:
ace, though the context here clearly indicates it is *not* the use of the term intended, "non-paper" is a guvamint/State term for a draft version of a memo or proposal, intended to have some sort of informal or deniable status. That is, it's a formal sort of trial balloon. But as I said, in this context it clearly seems to be a reference to actual physical paper, fax, vs. electronic version.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:23 PM (QDnY+)
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It was Wilfred at #34. It bears quoting for relevance.
As does rhomboid's point, where I think I see Hillary's escape:
ace, though the context here clearly indicates it is *not* the use of the term intended, "non-paper" is a guvamint/State term for a draft version of a memo or proposal, intended to have some sort of informal or deniable status. That is, it's a formal sort of trial balloon. But as I said, in this context it clearly seems to be a reference to actual physical paper, fax, vs. electronic version.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (pC96u)
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If she doesn't get charged, the consequences do not bear thinking about.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 12:43 PM (xuouz)
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258 I think that Trump will have a field day with this along with the goading about Billy Jeff's pervy ways.
The best thing is that Trump gets his message out loudly despite the media and then they are forced to report on it as he will hammer them as well.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (oiNtH)
Free media will be a bitch... he needs to do it live on CNN first...
The best thing is that Trump gets his message out loudly despite the media and then they are forced to report on it as he will hammer them as well.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:39 PM (oiNtH)
Free media will be a bitch... he needs to do it live on CNN first...
Posted by: phreshone at January 08, 2016 12:43 PM (LoIJo)
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We've seen this scenario play out for a senate seat and the laws were toss out in favor of the dems.
Posted by: jwest at January 08, 2016 12:38 PM (Zs4uk)
Whose senate career then proceeded to be a toxic mixture of criminality, vileness, and incompetence.
The same sort of shenanigans allowed Rahm to run for Mayor of Chicago despite not being a resident of Chicago. We see how well that has turned out.
Posted by: jwest at January 08, 2016 12:38 PM (Zs4uk)
Whose senate career then proceeded to be a toxic mixture of criminality, vileness, and incompetence.
The same sort of shenanigans allowed Rahm to run for Mayor of Chicago despite not being a resident of Chicago. We see how well that has turned out.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 12:43 PM (kXoT0)
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This non-story will never get air time! Swearsies!
Posted by: George Snuffleupagus at January 08, 2016 12:43 PM (TxJGV)
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A triple flaming skull? Geez why didn't somebody call me?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 12:43 PM (iONHu)
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Hell, it's not like she killed anybody.
Posted by: Edward M Kennedy at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (LoIJo)
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Ya can't put a hit on her unless you have a sit down with Pauly and get his blessing. Til then, she's untouchable.
Posted by: Scont at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM
Hey, Pauly...pull over to the side of the road. The country needs to take a leak.
*muffled shots*
*takes cannolis*
Posted by: Scont at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM
Hey, Pauly...pull over to the side of the road. The country needs to take a leak.
*muffled shots*
*takes cannolis*
Posted by: Clemenza at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (9EDu1)
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Eh not sure this merits a triple flaming skull.
Hillbot is not going to spend one day in jail or even one minute in a courtroom.
Hillbot is not going to spend one day in jail or even one minute in a courtroom.
Posted by: chemjeff at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (uZNvH)
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One other thought I've had, though it's riskier for Obama, so he probably won't do it-
is to fix it so that Hillary! owes him big time, a pardon or some such on the last day of his Presidency, "For the sake of the nation" should she win.
Then she would nominate him for either the Supreme Court, and what a country-destroying farce that would be.
Or perhaps, Grand Wazoo of the UN.
SC would be too much work so probably GWotUN is probably it.
is to fix it so that Hillary! owes him big time, a pardon or some such on the last day of his Presidency, "For the sake of the nation" should she win.
Then she would nominate him for either the Supreme Court, and what a country-destroying farce that would be.
Or perhaps, Grand Wazoo of the UN.
SC would be too much work so probably GWotUN is probably it.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (0cMkb)
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And as the brass ring of President Sauron permanently fades out of reach dissolving in the hot magma of her unprincipled lust for power, I want her to scream like a cat discovering the last can of tuna in the world is empty - "My precious!!!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (VnEUI)
Beautimous.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (VnEUI)
Beautimous.
Posted by: LizLem at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (hvf9s)
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I've been kind of on an extended hiatus due to a welcome surge of actual paying work, but I hope to be back in the new year.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (zLP1L)
Congrats on the paying work. That's the best kind.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (zLP1L)
Congrats on the paying work. That's the best kind.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (t8P62)
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Do youse guys have any idea how many pardons Barry will issue in January, 2017 if a Republican is elected president?
Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (JBggj)
297
Looks like I'll just have to call in a few markers. Problem solved.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (La6jE)
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (LoIJo)
299
"Alf, you may have a cookie or a shot of Bourbon, as you prefer.
Posted by: Bandersnatch a"
I'll take the shot of bourbon if Alf does not want it. Hic.
Posted by: Bandersnatch a"
I'll take the shot of bourbon if Alf does not want it. Hic.
Posted by: Grandma Hillary at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (OD2ni)
300
the FBI can recommend
the DOJ will receive the investigation
And. Do. Nothing.
not indict, and not say they are not going to indict
do nothing, and it dies
unless Obama wants to kill the Clinton Machine
the DOJ will receive the investigation
And. Do. Nothing.
not indict, and not say they are not going to indict
do nothing, and it dies
unless Obama wants to kill the Clinton Machine
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (zOTsN)
301
Today, Friday, 1/8/16, we get this news. Next Friday, 1/15/16, we get the release of Bey's Benghazi movie, 13 hours.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (kXoT0)
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Speaking of another one of Hillary's triumphs, I am very curious on how Michael Bay's "13 Hours in Benghazi' is portrayed. Honestly or cover for State and the President.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (oiNtH)
303
Jarrett is cut from the same cloth as Hillary. Just as stupid, just as arrogant, just as lawless. They could be sisters.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (xWW96)
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Another cool thing about this for Hillary is, with all of the attention back on Bill for his career as a serial sexual predator, when Hillary does go to jail, she will be able to play it off as taking the punishment for Bill, thus remaining a martyr to the left.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean (Ahad ha'am) at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Vince Foster at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (LoIJo)
306
DOJ can say they are reviewing it, requesting additional information, blah blah blah
no fireworks. no refusal
they will just sit on it
no fireworks. no refusal
they will just sit on it
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (zOTsN)
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Ev'ry Clinton, has a flaming skull
A flaming skull, over their shoulder
And when a Clinton, sees their flaming star
They know their time, their time has come
A flaming skull, over their shoulder
And when a Clinton, sees their flaming star
They know their time, their time has come
Posted by: Zombie Elvis On His GodDamn Birthday at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (q00GQ)
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Wasn't that the Paula Jones case? Anyway, none of it had any appreciable effect on Clinton. He was disbarred? Oooooh, I'm sure that really stung.
So again, I'm not seeing anything which might contradict a well-established pattern here.
Posted by: Burn the Witch
___________
It was the "Lewinsky" part of the testimony
But what specific law did the Clintons break and get away with? I'm not saying there aren't any, but can you give us an example?
There was all sorts of unethical behavior and political scandals, but that's different than law breaking.
So again, I'm not seeing anything which might contradict a well-established pattern here.
Posted by: Burn the Witch
___________
It was the "Lewinsky" part of the testimony
But what specific law did the Clintons break and get away with? I'm not saying there aren't any, but can you give us an example?
There was all sorts of unethical behavior and political scandals, but that's different than law breaking.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (MWLby)
309
ICYMI:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/07/hillary-clinton-will-be-indicted-says-former-us-attorney/
Mass resignations at DOJ and FBI if she isn't indicted?
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/07/hillary-clinton-will-be-indicted-says-former-us-attorney/
Mass resignations at DOJ and FBI if she isn't indicted?
Posted by: TallDave at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (74ZYB)
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282 Of course, Hillary is responsible for this, but how come no one is talking about how this happened on Obama's watch? I refuse to believe that not a single soul at the White House knew what Hillary was doing.
Posted by: Eli Cash at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (a+WIL)
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They all knew about the email server, many have admitted to even bringing it up with her or otherwise noting it during the time she used the personal server. As for the security classifications of sh1t she received on it... they likely have plausable deniability, but in reality it must have occurred to some who knew about the private server that classified info might be going there, though nobody will admit to that I'm sure.
Posted by: Eli Cash at January 08, 2016 12:42 PM (a+WIL)
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They all knew about the email server, many have admitted to even bringing it up with her or otherwise noting it during the time she used the personal server. As for the security classifications of sh1t she received on it... they likely have plausable deniability, but in reality it must have occurred to some who knew about the private server that classified info might be going there, though nobody will admit to that I'm sure.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (MbrzC)
311
Make her burn
Posted by: Gen Petraeus at January 08, 2016 12:47 PM (LoIJo)
312
Sanders/Stockert 2016!
Upon his arrest, Scott D. Stockert of North Dakota made a series of outlandish claims to officers - that he was Jesus Christ, that he was the son of John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe, that he planned to run for president and that he was there to kidnap Bo or Sunny, the Obama's dogs, the authorities say in a court document.
Upon his arrest, Scott D. Stockert of North Dakota made a series of outlandish claims to officers - that he was Jesus Christ, that he was the son of John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe, that he planned to run for president and that he was there to kidnap Bo or Sunny, the Obama's dogs, the authorities say in a court document.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 12:47 PM (fWAjv)
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236 Look...the bottom line is free shit, warmening and ghey marriage. Period.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (La6jE)
As much as that should be uproarious, it's not.
It's reality.
*head--------desk*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (La6jE)
As much as that should be uproarious, it's not.
It's reality.
*head--------desk*
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 08, 2016 12:47 PM (WWdgA)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 08, 2016 12:47 PM (LA7Cm)
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I'm not locked in here with you, YOU ARE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!!!!
Posted by: Hillary's first day. at January 08, 2016 12:47 PM (zxnPQ)
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unless Obama wants to kill the Clinton Machine
Posted by: ThunderB
Unless the Presidential candidates make it so they can not ignore it. Trump can loudly make it so that this cannot be ignored.
Posted by: ThunderB
Unless the Presidential candidates make it so they can not ignore it. Trump can loudly make it so that this cannot be ignored.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:47 PM (oiNtH)
317
If we import millions of folks who respect the Rule of Law, these things will not happen in the future.
And my Grandpa...
And my Grandpa...
Posted by: Marco Rubio at January 08, 2016 12:47 PM (Ui7Rt)
318
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (LoIJo)
319
I can almost warm my fingers on those skulls.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (Xo1Rt)
320
This increases the odds of indictment from 0.0% to 0.0000001%
The establishment has a different set of rules, namely no set of rules.
The establishment has a different set of rules, namely no set of rules.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (WuRdh)
321
Those identifying headings are with the Rose Law Firm billing records.
Posted by: Dang at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (2oWD2)
322
Huma!!!
Posted by: Hillary Rodham at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (LoIJo)
323
Alright, who wants to be officially part of the VastRightWingConspiracy?
I have, I think, a cool little design for the tshirt. Anyone want in? Want to see what it looks like?
I have, I think, a cool little design for the tshirt. Anyone want in? Want to see what it looks like?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (gW5Vg)
324
At this point, what difference is it going to make?
Loretta wouldn't dare start anything against me.
Loretta wouldn't dare start anything against me.
Posted by: Scankles Rodham at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (8cAne)
325
Doesn't a crime of this nature normally earn one a blindfold and a cigarette?
If she had any honor whatsoever, it'd be a brandy and revolver moment.
If she had any honor whatsoever, it'd be a brandy and revolver moment.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (oKE6c)
326
This is SOOOOO interesting. This election now takes on issues of life or death for her.
If she stays in the race, takes the nomination, and loses in the general, then she's dependent either on a Gerald Ford preemptive pardon from Obama or a remarkably lax GOP AG to keep her from spending the rest of her natural life in prison.
And I have to think that even some of our kneepad-bearing Democrat media whores might choke on the idea of a candidate whose only way to avoid a felony rap is to win the Presidency.
Any reasonable sort of risk-management strategy would say she has to negotiate a deal with Lynch and Obama to ensure this all goes away, permanently, before Obama leaves office. But how do you do that and stay in the race? All you need is one text message from one disposable phone from one Bernie fan in DOJ to a reporter and her candidacy's plunging toward the karst.
The Democrats are gonna need a new candidate, stat.
If she stays in the race, takes the nomination, and loses in the general, then she's dependent either on a Gerald Ford preemptive pardon from Obama or a remarkably lax GOP AG to keep her from spending the rest of her natural life in prison.
And I have to think that even some of our kneepad-bearing Democrat media whores might choke on the idea of a candidate whose only way to avoid a felony rap is to win the Presidency.
Any reasonable sort of risk-management strategy would say she has to negotiate a deal with Lynch and Obama to ensure this all goes away, permanently, before Obama leaves office. But how do you do that and stay in the race? All you need is one text message from one disposable phone from one Bernie fan in DOJ to a reporter and her candidacy's plunging toward the karst.
The Democrats are gonna need a new candidate, stat.
Posted by: JEM at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (o+SC1)
327
Nobody resigns anymore,they want the goodies they have got coming.
Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (8HTq1)
328
320 This increases the odds of indictment from 0.0% to 0.0000001%
The establishment has a different set of rules, namely no set of rules.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (WuRdh)
Think of the rules as a "living document".
The establishment has a different set of rules, namely no set of rules.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (WuRdh)
Think of the rules as a "living document".
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (DofIg)
329
302 Speaking of another one of Hillary's triumphs, I am very curious on how Michael Bay's "13 Hours in Benghazi' is portrayed. Honestly or cover for State and the President.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (oiNt
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Supposedly it stays focused on what happened there, and avoids the key what was happening in DC questions, except it does touch on the prior requests for more security. Those there stand by the honest telling of 'what happened on the ground' though.
Posted by: Cheri at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (oiNt
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Supposedly it stays focused on what happened there, and avoids the key what was happening in DC questions, except it does touch on the prior requests for more security. Those there stand by the honest telling of 'what happened on the ground' though.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (MbrzC)
330
5) When a Republican wins the presidency, Obama will have an 'enemy' to go after in his post-presidency career. This will allow him to stay in the public eye, give him a way to amass $$, and affect policy changes or continue the growth of such groups as Black Lives Matter in order to create instability in the U.S.
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I've had such thoughts as well, not so much that buy design he wants an R to win, but that he's perfectly ok with that outcome for exactly item #5 you mention, something to do immediately following his presidency and assures lots of money will flow to whatever organization he sets up, and you know he'll set one up. Thought of him retiring to HI and staying mostly quiet are pipe dreams, I don't even think he'll give it week before he starts slamming who ever the new person is (including Hillary).
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (MbrzC)
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Without an 'enemy' he is nothing. So I see his post-presidency as actually preferring a R as well. As leader of the Ds, the curious paucity of credible candidates is telling.
My own concern is how many poison pills are embedded within the Executive setup as it is now. Setting up ANY other administration to fail.
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I've had such thoughts as well, not so much that buy design he wants an R to win, but that he's perfectly ok with that outcome for exactly item #5 you mention, something to do immediately following his presidency and assures lots of money will flow to whatever organization he sets up, and you know he'll set one up. Thought of him retiring to HI and staying mostly quiet are pipe dreams, I don't even think he'll give it week before he starts slamming who ever the new person is (including Hillary).
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (MbrzC)
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Without an 'enemy' he is nothing. So I see his post-presidency as actually preferring a R as well. As leader of the Ds, the curious paucity of credible candidates is telling.
My own concern is how many poison pills are embedded within the Executive setup as it is now. Setting up ANY other administration to fail.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (MIKMs)
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It will all be airbrushed out
Posted by: Iosif Stalin at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (LoIJo)
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230 Today's trivium: who stepped in and finally was willing to fire Cox?
(It's a name you know)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (1xUj/)
Bork?
The Swedish Chef fired him?
(It's a name you know)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 08, 2016 12:36 PM (1xUj/)
Bork?
The Swedish Chef fired him?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (LUgeY)
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If she had any honor whatsoever, it'd be a brandy and revolver moment.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (oKE6c)
Yep.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (oKE6c)
Yep.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (WWdgA)
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She'll be charged.
The case will be delayed until after the election.
She'll be elected anyway.
The GOPe in the House won't have the balls to start impeachment proceedings because the MFM will be accusing them of picking on a woman.
We'll get 8 years of cackling.
The case will be delayed until after the election.
She'll be elected anyway.
The GOPe in the House won't have the balls to start impeachment proceedings because the MFM will be accusing them of picking on a woman.
We'll get 8 years of cackling.
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (3rpaY)
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I refuse to believe that not a single soul at the White House knew what Hillary was doing.
Of course they did. They routinely used the illegal server. It was for deniableity and security from each other as much as the rest of the world.
Of course they did. They routinely used the illegal server. It was for deniableity and security from each other as much as the rest of the world.
Posted by: DaveA at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (DL2i+)
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Teflon Tunic probably won't go to jail. She will, however, possibly have a "health crisis" (which is totally believable) or "want to spend more time with family."
Some attempt to prevent the slippery slope to prison, via the well-lubricated (Willy prefers Vaseline vs K-Y) machine, going back decades to Little Rock.
First, she will ignore and blame Trump or the GOP.
Second, she will blame a staff member.
Third, she will be unaware.
Fourth, she will deny and obfuscate words.
Fifth,she will take the Fifth.
I DO want to see a war simmer between the FBI and DOJ. About effing time, y'all. Seven long years of New Black Panther criminal justifying.
Some attempt to prevent the slippery slope to prison, via the well-lubricated (Willy prefers Vaseline vs K-Y) machine, going back decades to Little Rock.
First, she will ignore and blame Trump or the GOP.
Second, she will blame a staff member.
Third, she will be unaware.
Fourth, she will deny and obfuscate words.
Fifth,she will take the Fifth.
I DO want to see a war simmer between the FBI and DOJ. About effing time, y'all. Seven long years of New Black Panther criminal justifying.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (7lqMl)
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Mass resignations at DOJ and FBI if she isn't indicted?
Posted by: TallDave at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (74ZYB)
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Don't count on it.
Mass resignations at DOJ and FBI if she isn't indicted?
Posted by: TallDave at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (74ZYB)
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Don't count on it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (MbrzC)
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If she stays in the race, takes the nomination, and loses in the
general, then she's dependent either on a Gerald Ford preemptive pardon
from Obama or a remarkably lax GOP AG to keep her from spending the rest
of her natural life in prison.
The problem with prosecution by the opposition party is it smacks of banana republic stuff, and thereby sets a bad precedent. Even if the prosecution is totally warranted, as it is here.
general, then she's dependent either on a Gerald Ford preemptive pardon
from Obama or a remarkably lax GOP AG to keep her from spending the rest
of her natural life in prison.
The problem with prosecution by the opposition party is it smacks of banana republic stuff, and thereby sets a bad precedent. Even if the prosecution is totally warranted, as it is here.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (oKE6c)
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lets watch DWS. She starts to retreat from Hillary, the die is cast
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (zOTsN)
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Bill Clinton lied under oath. Even though the Senate refused to convict him, he had to surrender his Law License because of the facts.
It's illegal (perjury) to swear falsely and it's particularly egregious if it's an officer of the court (any lawyer is an officer of the court).
It's illegal (perjury) to swear falsely and it's particularly egregious if it's an officer of the court (any lawyer is an officer of the court).
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (Xo1Rt)
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333 A hot bath and a razor blade.
Posted by: steevy at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (8HTq1)
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How does this help my children?
Posted by: Moochelle at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (LoIJo)
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Put up all the flaming skulls you want! If you don't elect me, the Republicans are going to take away your birth control and abortion access!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (7Kbxu)
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Biden would have easily been the nominee, why on Earth did the guy pass on running?
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (MWLby)
FBI files. Never forget that Clinton's guy Livingston got her those 900 FBI files, which was also a clear and egregious breach of a number of laws, policies, and procedures. They were raw files, which meant they were chock full of dirt that had not been vetted. Given how incestuous the Beltway truly is, files on 900 people could conceivably contain damning information on thousands of people or their closest associates. Given that Biden was a powerful Senator and not a Clinton ally, they probably have his file and multiple files with him in them on a tangential basis. The Clintons play the Long Game. It has long been speculated that those same files united the Dems in their refusal to remove BJ from office.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:06 PM (MWLby)
FBI files. Never forget that Clinton's guy Livingston got her those 900 FBI files, which was also a clear and egregious breach of a number of laws, policies, and procedures. They were raw files, which meant they were chock full of dirt that had not been vetted. Given how incestuous the Beltway truly is, files on 900 people could conceivably contain damning information on thousands of people or their closest associates. Given that Biden was a powerful Senator and not a Clinton ally, they probably have his file and multiple files with him in them on a tangential basis. The Clintons play the Long Game. It has long been speculated that those same files united the Dems in their refusal to remove BJ from office.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (kXoT0)
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Fund raising? Once she stops running, any reason for 'donating' to the Clinton foundation goes bye bye. She has to keep going for that alone.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (326rv)
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Hence candidate Chelsea.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (326rv)
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Hence candidate Chelsea.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:51 PM (pC96u)
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About like the Teapot Dome Scandal for whoever it was. Posted by: Chinwendu Whitecrest at January 08, 2016 12:12 PM (98+Sc)
There is strong evidence Warren Harding did not know his Ohio Gang cronies, Daugherty and Fall,were engaged in the later infamousTeapot Dome shenanigans until very shortly before his death. Aside from his many mistresses and a notorious weakness for poker and expensive cigars, there is no evidence Harding himself was a bad man or a crook or ever took graft for anything. He stands better than Hillary in that regard.
There is strong evidence Warren Harding did not know his Ohio Gang cronies, Daugherty and Fall,were engaged in the later infamousTeapot Dome shenanigans until very shortly before his death. Aside from his many mistresses and a notorious weakness for poker and expensive cigars, there is no evidence Harding himself was a bad man or a crook or ever took graft for anything. He stands better than Hillary in that regard.
Posted by: troyriser at January 08, 2016 12:51 PM (UWlp+)
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We'd better just move on.
Posted by: The GOPe at January 08, 2016 12:51 PM (7Kbxu)
348
Bow before me, or I shall let this continue
Posted by: SMOD at January 08, 2016 12:51 PM (LoIJo)
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You thought, you thought... You thought 8 things tonight, and some of them were fucking classified!
Posted by: Mr. Paul Anka at January 08, 2016 12:52 PM (Ui7Rt)
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336 Teflon Tunic probably won't go to jail. She will, however, possibly have a "health crisis" (which is totally believable) or "want to spend more time with family."
Oh, I can see that. Graciously stepping aside "for the country"
...and the hosannas will commence.
Oh, I can see that. Graciously stepping aside "for the country"
...and the hosannas will commence.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 08, 2016 12:52 PM (WWdgA)
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unless Obama wants to kill the Clinton Machine
Posted by: ThunderB
Unless the Presidential candidates make it so they can not ignore it. Trump can loudly make it so that this cannot be ignored.
Posted by: Cheri
Add to this the variable of Trump. If Turd! was the frontrunner, does anyone think that they would be pressing their suit against empress mommom?
I also think that if the Stupid party implodes, this will all die off.
Posted by: ThunderB
Unless the Presidential candidates make it so they can not ignore it. Trump can loudly make it so that this cannot be ignored.
Posted by: Cheri
Add to this the variable of Trump. If Turd! was the frontrunner, does anyone think that they would be pressing their suit against empress mommom?
I also think that if the Stupid party implodes, this will all die off.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:52 PM (326rv)
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14
Question: how many of her true-believer voters will abstain from voting
for her over this? How many will stop campaigning for her?
The
problem is not merely that Hillary was a lawless official. It is also a
problem that there are so many people in this country for whom this does not matter.
How
many people are there out there who will still cast their vote for her
if, next November, she were to be behind bars and wearing an orange
pantsuit?
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (iIzG7)
Stop thinking about this on the merits, folks. The reality is that she would be tried either in DC or in New York. The likelihood of finding twelve random Washingtonians or New Yorkers who would vote unanimously to convict Hillary of anything is zero. She could eat a baby on live television and the jury would still be hung. She could hold up a 7-11 and wave at the camera and the jury would be hung. She is not convictable, especially if David Boies can throw up some kind of technicality defense that at least sounds plausible. She knows she is not convictable, and the US Attorneys' offices involved know it, too. It sucks, but welcome to the Mafia world we live in.
Question: how many of her true-believer voters will abstain from voting
for her over this? How many will stop campaigning for her?
The
problem is not merely that Hillary was a lawless official. It is also a
problem that there are so many people in this country for whom this does not matter.
How
many people are there out there who will still cast their vote for her
if, next November, she were to be behind bars and wearing an orange
pantsuit?
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 08, 2016 12:04 PM (iIzG7)
Stop thinking about this on the merits, folks. The reality is that she would be tried either in DC or in New York. The likelihood of finding twelve random Washingtonians or New Yorkers who would vote unanimously to convict Hillary of anything is zero. She could eat a baby on live television and the jury would still be hung. She could hold up a 7-11 and wave at the camera and the jury would be hung. She is not convictable, especially if David Boies can throw up some kind of technicality defense that at least sounds plausible. She knows she is not convictable, and the US Attorneys' offices involved know it, too. It sucks, but welcome to the Mafia world we live in.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (t2m1Y)
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Destroy the system little lady, but don't destroy yourself...
Posted by: Saul Alinsky at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (LoIJo)
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Nothing to see here. Move along.
I keep saying, the Republican primary will be the election this year.
So who does Hillary take down with her?
I keep saying, the Republican primary will be the election this year.
So who does Hillary take down with her?
Posted by: Iblis at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (9221z)
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No indictment ever fed a hungry child.
Posted by: Hillary's joke writer at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (FkBIv)
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>>>>Slow down.
Are talking points classified?
What's different than saying "Strip the headers (?) And send me the cookie recipe over the nonsecure...". ?
.
.
.That might be a good excuse but the State Department decided that those talking points were/are classified and redacted them from the email.
Are talking points classified?
What's different than saying "Strip the headers (?) And send me the cookie recipe over the nonsecure...". ?
.
.
.That might be a good excuse but the State Department decided that those talking points were/are classified and redacted them from the email.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (iONHu)
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Psst Ace,
The Republic has been dead as a doornail for several years now. SCOTUS crafts "rights" out of thin air. The House of Reps continues to authorize the spending of public monies by departments openly violating laws.
The AG picks and chooses which laws to enforce.
It's tyranny, straight and simple.
The Republic has been dead as a doornail for several years now. SCOTUS crafts "rights" out of thin air. The House of Reps continues to authorize the spending of public monies by departments openly violating laws.
The AG picks and chooses which laws to enforce.
It's tyranny, straight and simple.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (1ijHg)
358
Meet the new boss...
Posted by: The Who at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (LoIJo)
359
It's illegal (perjury) to swear falsely and it's particularly egregious if it's an officer of the court (any lawyer is an officer of the court).
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0
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And Bill Clinton was fined and lost his law license over it.
You can argue that was not enough punishment, but most would say that's pretty appropriate for testimony in a civil suit regarding a blow job
Bill is a piece of shit, but I don't think he belonged behind bars for lying about an affair in a sexual harassment lawsuit
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0
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And Bill Clinton was fined and lost his law license over it.
You can argue that was not enough punishment, but most would say that's pretty appropriate for testimony in a civil suit regarding a blow job
Bill is a piece of shit, but I don't think he belonged behind bars for lying about an affair in a sexual harassment lawsuit
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (MWLby)
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First, she will ignore and blame Trump or the GOP.
Second, she will blame a staff member.
Third, she will be unaware.
Fourth, she will deny and obfuscate words.
Fifth,she will take the Fifth.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (7lqMl)
Sixth, off to a country with no extradition treaty with her chunk of that sweet foundation money. She will then become a cause celebre with her devoted fanatics foaming at the mouth about how America was deprived of one of their shining lights because Pubbies.
Second, she will blame a staff member.
Third, she will be unaware.
Fourth, she will deny and obfuscate words.
Fifth,she will take the Fifth.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 12:50 PM (7lqMl)
Sixth, off to a country with no extradition treaty with her chunk of that sweet foundation money. She will then become a cause celebre with her devoted fanatics foaming at the mouth about how America was deprived of one of their shining lights because Pubbies.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (kXoT0)
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I want to see the moment it hits her. All the
years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer
(at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and
collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
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You make it sound like she's a long-suffering victim. She's nothing of the kind.
years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer
(at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and
collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
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You make it sound like she's a long-suffering victim. She's nothing of the kind.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (zOTsN)
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But it wasn't treason-treason
Posted by: Whoopi at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (LoIJo)
364
Do youse guys have any idea how many pardons Barry will issue in January, 2017 if a Republican is elected president?
Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (JBggj)
A question for the Lawyer morons-
I'm assuming that you cannot receive a pardon for acts you committed-
without there first being criminal charges filed.
Is this correct?
Because there seems to have been a lot of illegal/criminal acts committed in this administration that have merely been covered up by the MSM or swept under the rugs.
For President Trump or President Cruz to get anything done within the bureaucracy,they will need a very aggressive AG to go after the Obama flunkies hammer and tongs.
Posted by: mrp at January 08, 2016 12:44 PM (JBggj)
A question for the Lawyer morons-
I'm assuming that you cannot receive a pardon for acts you committed-
without there first being criminal charges filed.
Is this correct?
Because there seems to have been a lot of illegal/criminal acts committed in this administration that have merely been covered up by the MSM or swept under the rugs.
For President Trump or President Cruz to get anything done within the bureaucracy,they will need a very aggressive AG to go after the Obama flunkies hammer and tongs.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (0cMkb)
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For the two, maybe three of you who think that there will be some sort of significant consequence that Hillary will face...given her well-established patterns of lawbreaking, malfeasance, and general ineptitude, why is this time going to be any different?
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (Wckf4)
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I'm not necessarily one of those 2 or 3, but it seems to me Hillary got sloppy on this one. She failed to cover her tracks and prevaricate with her usual thoroughness.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 08, 2016 12:30 PM (Wckf4)
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I'm not necessarily one of those 2 or 3, but it seems to me Hillary got sloppy on this one. She failed to cover her tracks and prevaricate with her usual thoroughness.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (pC96u)
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Of course, Hillary is responsible for this, but how come no one is talking about how this happened on Obama's watch?
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The buck no longer stops here I guess. Hillary was but an agent of Obama - nothing more.
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The buck no longer stops here I guess. Hillary was but an agent of Obama - nothing more.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (gmeXX)
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It all depends on what the definition of sent is.
Posted by: ceraphym at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (BzibK)
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to keep her from spending the rest of her natural life in prison.
I'd expect all the MD help keeping her moving now would be re-purposed to getting her a "compassionate out" if she's ever actually sentenced.
I'd expect all the MD help keeping her moving now would be re-purposed to getting her a "compassionate out" if she's ever actually sentenced.
Posted by: DaveA at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (DL2i+)
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>>> It's too late for people who follow rules to get on the ballet, but not for democrats.
Especially not for me!!
Especially not for me!!
Posted by: Rahm "pretty pretty ballerina" Emmanuel at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (hvf9s)
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My own concern is how many poison pills are embedded within the Executive setup as it is now. Setting up ANY other administration to fail.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (MIKMs)
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It's why everyone needs to be fired.. day 1, anyone that can be canned, should be canned, anywhere, immediately, don't wait because you don't have a replacement yet.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (MIKMs)
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It's why everyone needs to be fired.. day 1, anyone that can be canned, should be canned, anywhere, immediately, don't wait because you don't have a replacement yet.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (MbrzC)
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You better not make me lie for you, Barry
Posted by: Worf at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (LoIJo)
Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster @ a park bench at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (5buP8)
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Bill is a piece of shit, but I don't think he belonged behind bars for lying about an affair in a sexual harassment lawsuit
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (MWLby)
I do. I just hate the SOB, but you're right.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (MWLby)
I do. I just hate the SOB, but you're right.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (WWdgA)
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I'm assuming that you cannot receive a pardon for acts you committed-
without there first being criminal charges filed.
Is this correct?
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No. You can pardon based merely on the offense.
without there first being criminal charges filed.
Is this correct?
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No. You can pardon based merely on the offense.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (gmeXX)
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>>Honestly or cover for State and the President.
From what I've read, it's not political. It's based on the book four of the guys wrote about their rescue of most of the consulate staff.
So it's an action story where you will see brave men defy orders to stand down, attempt to save our ambassador, continue to take fire for hours with no response to calls for military support, where two of them some die (Krasinki's character), others permanently injured. I'm guessing viewers will be left to draw their own conclusions on how that all worked out.
From what I've read, it's not political. It's based on the book four of the guys wrote about their rescue of most of the consulate staff.
So it's an action story where you will see brave men defy orders to stand down, attempt to save our ambassador, continue to take fire for hours with no response to calls for military support, where two of them some die (Krasinki's character), others permanently injured. I'm guessing viewers will be left to draw their own conclusions on how that all worked out.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (NOIQH)
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Is
She
Gone
Yet?
No.
The Clinton Gambit has been well-tested and time proven.
Stand there and take the slings and arrows. Do. Not. Move.
Eventually arms tire, or Squirrel! and you go about your business.
She
Gone
Yet?
No.
The Clinton Gambit has been well-tested and time proven.
Stand there and take the slings and arrows. Do. Not. Move.
Eventually arms tire, or Squirrel! and you go about your business.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (kKHcp)
377
Anybody want to follow my twitter feed???
Posted by: Anthony Weiner at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (LoIJo)
378
I did a image search of Jake Sullivan and he looked as I suspected (beta wuss).
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (OD2ni)
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omg you had to make me do that. Damn you! Some things, once seen, cannot be unseen.
Posted by: Benji Carver at January 08, 2016 12:31 PM (OD2ni)
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omg you had to make me do that. Damn you! Some things, once seen, cannot be unseen.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (pC96u)
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (whlmq)
380
Tread lightly.
Posted by: Walter White at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (Ui7Rt)
381
336 Teflon Tunic probably won't go to jail. She will, however, possibly have a "health crisis" (which is totally believable) or "want to spend more time with family."
She may be in the process of lining up one of her minions to fall on his or her sword for her, like Jim(?) and Susan McDougall did for her (and her priapic husband) during the Whitewater brouhaha.
She may be in the process of lining up one of her minions to fall on his or her sword for her, like Jim(?) and Susan McDougall did for her (and her priapic husband) during the Whitewater brouhaha.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (/rMpO)
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OneEyedJack's comment gets at the appalling reality/apparent reality of it all - whether in fact the electorate cares any longer about central things like rule of law and corruption. It's hard to figure out, as you are always up against the "do they even know/understand about this?" vs. "they know and don't care".
Unscientific personal sampling indicates a lot of "don't know" thanks to normal people depending on normal channels of info (MSM, NPR). This applies to hugely important topics that might shock you (or not, with this crowd).
I do know that with several friends it's been axiomatic for years to point out that even a fraction of the scandals/failures/disasters associated with Clinton orher former boss (prez) would have, just a few years ago, simply been the end of the line for a major public figure. Hell, a few of Bill Clinton's nominees for 2nd-tier cabinet positions, in his first term ("honeymoon"), had to withdraw their nominations due to such calamitous scandals as having nannies who weren't in the social security system.
Try - just try - to imagine a country where unwritten rules of public integrity were at that level. Seems like ancient history.
OneEyedJack's comment gets at the appalling reality/apparent reality of it all - whether in fact the electorate cares any longer about central things like rule of law and corruption. It's hard to figure out, as you are always up against the "do they even know/understand about this?" vs. "they know and don't care".
Unscientific personal sampling indicates a lot of "don't know" thanks to normal people depending on normal channels of info (MSM, NPR). This applies to hugely important topics that might shock you (or not, with this crowd).
I do know that with several friends it's been axiomatic for years to point out that even a fraction of the scandals/failures/disasters associated with Clinton orher former boss (prez) would have, just a few years ago, simply been the end of the line for a major public figure. Hell, a few of Bill Clinton's nominees for 2nd-tier cabinet positions, in his first term ("honeymoon"), had to withdraw their nominations due to such calamitous scandals as having nannies who weren't in the social security system.
Try - just try - to imagine a country where unwritten rules of public integrity were at that level. Seems like ancient history.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (QDnY+)
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I doubt we'll have the opportunity, though. Maybe she'll have a massive stroke instead...
Hah! Joke's on you, wingnut. I already had a massive stroke.
Hah! Joke's on you, wingnut. I already had a massive stroke.
Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (8ZskC)
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Oh come on. The same politicized DOJ which ran Fast Furious, which refused to prosecute obviously guilty Black Panther guys, which wants to go after anti-Muslim "hate speech", is now suddenly going to do a bang-up job prosecuting Hillary and thereby ruining the Donk's chances in 2016 and tarnishing Obama's legacy?
Posted by: chemjeff at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (uZNvH)
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You need me on that Server
Posted by: Colonel Nathan Jessup Clinton at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (LoIJo)
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Alright, who wants to be officially part of the VastRightWingConspiracy?
I have, I think, a cool little design for the tshirt. Anyone want in? Want to see what it looks like?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM
Several years ago I was having drinks with some good conservative friends in NH. Former Rep. and jailbird Nicky 'Pockets' Mavroules happened to be there with the wife, since they were all family friends. I was introduced and said thanks for his long ago nomination to Hudson High. He looked at me, looked at my friends, and jokingly asked if I was one of those conservative types. I said, well, you know when Hillary! was talking about the vast right-wing conspiracy? That was me. We proceeded to drink.
I have, I think, a cool little design for the tshirt. Anyone want in? Want to see what it looks like?
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM
Several years ago I was having drinks with some good conservative friends in NH. Former Rep. and jailbird Nicky 'Pockets' Mavroules happened to be there with the wife, since they were all family friends. I was introduced and said thanks for his long ago nomination to Hudson High. He looked at me, looked at my friends, and jokingly asked if I was one of those conservative types. I said, well, you know when Hillary! was talking about the vast right-wing conspiracy? That was me. We proceeded to drink.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (9EDu1)
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She also likes to let rapists, get away with rape, because she is the champion of women.
She also likes to let rapists, get away with rape, because she is the champion of women.
Posted by: madamex at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (1zsKV)
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (whlmq)
389
I wonder if the person who 'cleaned up' the emails simply didn't understand the import and let it slip through.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (PNcou)
390
DOJ didnt go after Lois Lerner it sure as hell wont go against her. Not on their own
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:58 PM (zOTsN)
391
I see they raised the estimated jackpot for the Power Ball to an $800 million annuity.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 12:58 PM (VnEUI)
392
Psst...Hillary!...Just say "no controlling legal authority..."
Posted by: AlGore at January 08, 2016 12:58 PM (u5gzz)
393
I'm really not paying that much attention, just scanning the headlines, so -- is it true that Hilary emailed three flaming skull gifs, without giving credit to Ace? Terrible!
Posted by: zombie at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (jBuUi)
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I do know that with several friends it's been axiomatic for years to point out that even a fraction of the scandals/failures/disasters associated with Clinton orher former boss (prez) would have, just a few years ago, simply been the end of the line for a major public figure. Hell, a few of Bill Clinton's nominees for 2nd-tier cabinet positions, in his first term ("honeymoon"), had to withdraw their nominations due to such calamitous scandals as having nannies who weren't in the social security system.
That idea died along with Mary Jo Kopechne.
That idea died along with Mary Jo Kopechne.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (LUgeY)
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353 Destroy the system little lady, but don't destroy yourself...
Posted by: Saul Alinsky at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (LoIJo)
Pretty good.
Posted by: Saul Alinsky at January 08, 2016 12:53 PM (LoIJo)
Pretty good.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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If she needs to blamer and underling Hillary will, of course.
By guess it that she pretends nothing happened or says it's RW conspiracy.
By guess it that she pretends nothing happened or says it's RW conspiracy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (M+RRn)
398
I will fly to DC and negotiate a peace.
Posted by: Rudy Hess Abedin at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (LoIJo)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (zOTsN)
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362 well lets see if Trump goes after her on this
its a little complex, and not populist red meat
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (zOTsN)
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Huh, he goes after her on the email sh1t and says she should be in prison for in at just about every rally. I'm sure he'll add this to his list of comments about it, though I don't actually think he needs to as it's already baked into his script that she's guilty has hell.
its a little complex, and not populist red meat
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (zOTsN)
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Huh, he goes after her on the email sh1t and says she should be in prison for in at just about every rally. I'm sure he'll add this to his list of comments about it, though I don't actually think he needs to as it's already baked into his script that she's guilty has hell.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (MbrzC)
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>> She'll be charged.
>> The case will be delayed until after the election.
>> She'll be elected anyway.
I don't think so.
If she's indicted she will not win. You might still have 35% of the electorate who would vote for her, but she will still lose.
Further, the Democrats need those Presidential years to make up a little down-ticket that they've been losing in the off-years, and a lot of their voters would likely just stay home.
But I don't think Lynch will bring charges. This administration is such a perfect little Democrat junta that there's no chance she's gonna do anything. She'll slow-walk it right up to the election.
Unless Hillary herself decides to protect herself and do a deal, which would probably end her candidacy anyway.
>> The case will be delayed until after the election.
>> She'll be elected anyway.
I don't think so.
If she's indicted she will not win. You might still have 35% of the electorate who would vote for her, but she will still lose.
Further, the Democrats need those Presidential years to make up a little down-ticket that they've been losing in the off-years, and a lot of their voters would likely just stay home.
But I don't think Lynch will bring charges. This administration is such a perfect little Democrat junta that there's no chance she's gonna do anything. She'll slow-walk it right up to the election.
Unless Hillary herself decides to protect herself and do a deal, which would probably end her candidacy anyway.
Posted by: JEM at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (o+SC1)
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393 I'm really not paying that much attention, just scanning the headlines, so -- is it true that Hilary emailed three flaming skull gifs, without giving credit to Ace? Terrible!
Posted by: zombie at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (jBuUi)
Thread Winner!
Posted by: zombie at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (jBuUi)
Thread Winner!
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (DofIg)
403
The last gasp of any Democrat withdrawing from running for President happened aboard a boat named the Monkey Business.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (VnEUI)
404
Did a bing search on Jake Sullivan to see what he looks like, ugh.
However, looks like he went on to become Joe Biden's National Security advisor in 2013. Of course.
However, looks like he went on to become Joe Biden's National Security advisor in 2013. Of course.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (NOIQH)
405
I wonder if the person who 'cleaned up' the emails simply didn't understand the import and let it slip through.
Having been involved in document productions of hundreds of thousands of pages myself, I see this as being the most obvious explanation. Poor "sanitizing" procedures.
Having been involved in document productions of hundreds of thousands of pages myself, I see this as being the most obvious explanation. Poor "sanitizing" procedures.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (fWAjv)
407
He's dead Jake. You can stop sucking his dick now.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (xWW96)
408
I'm glad I don't have grab the shovel and bury this one...
Posted by: Eric Holder at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (LoIJo)
409
326 The Democrats are gonna need a new candidate, stat.
Posted by: JEM at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (o+SC1)
If Trump wins the nod, she'll be crushed. Cruz will beat her as well, but not by as wide a margin.
Posted by: JEM at January 08, 2016 12:49 PM (o+SC1)
If Trump wins the nod, she'll be crushed. Cruz will beat her as well, but not by as wide a margin.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (zLP1L)
410
I have to say that photo of Hilz w/ her sunglasses and blackberry disturbs me. Her jewelry, y'all. Looks like a blind person dressed her.
I guess she thinks she looks like Albright, with her signature brooches. Or the Queen.She sure as heck could not rock some boots like Condi Rice.
Instead this looks like a turquoise explosion and a blind woman (no offense to blind women) with a special reading device or a Braille blackberry. All that is missing is the white cane.
I guess she thinks she looks like Albright, with her signature brooches. Or the Queen.She sure as heck could not rock some boots like Condi Rice.
Instead this looks like a turquoise explosion and a blind woman (no offense to blind women) with a special reading device or a Braille blackberry. All that is missing is the white cane.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (7lqMl)
411
345
Fund raising? Once she stops running, any reason for 'donating' to the
Clinton foundation goes bye bye. She has to keep going for that alone.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (326rv)
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Hence candidate Chelsea.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:51 PM (pC96u)
The Clinton Foundation and its myriad tentacles are all part of the giant Clinton Inc. influence peddling machine. Seriously, does anyone think that "investors" in the son-in-law's "hedge fund" ever expect to get returns? But you betcha the "hedge fund" pays "management fees" to the son-in-law to support Chelsea's Manhattan lifestyle. What possible reason would anyone have to contribute hundreds of thousands to the library, or the legal defense fund, if not to buy influence with the Clintons? If a US bank hired the spouse of the Nigerian foreign minister to give a speech for $600,000, it would be a blatant violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, yet when a Nigerian bank hires the spouse of the Secretary of State to give a speech, we're supposed to believe it's just really interested in what he has to say to them? The rule of law died a long time ago.
Fund raising? Once she stops running, any reason for 'donating' to the
Clinton foundation goes bye bye. She has to keep going for that alone.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 12:27 PM (326rv)
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Hence candidate Chelsea.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 12:51 PM (pC96u)
The Clinton Foundation and its myriad tentacles are all part of the giant Clinton Inc. influence peddling machine. Seriously, does anyone think that "investors" in the son-in-law's "hedge fund" ever expect to get returns? But you betcha the "hedge fund" pays "management fees" to the son-in-law to support Chelsea's Manhattan lifestyle. What possible reason would anyone have to contribute hundreds of thousands to the library, or the legal defense fund, if not to buy influence with the Clintons? If a US bank hired the spouse of the Nigerian foreign minister to give a speech for $600,000, it would be a blatant violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, yet when a Nigerian bank hires the spouse of the Secretary of State to give a speech, we're supposed to believe it's just really interested in what he has to say to them? The rule of law died a long time ago.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (t2m1Y)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (NOIQH)
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Known unknowns. (I actually wrote this earlier this week)
Obama and the Clintons cut some kind of deal when Biden dropped out. What were the terms? Does Obama get to pick Hillary's VP? Will Obama actively hump the vote for Hillary in the fall of 2016? Or was it a Hitler/Stalin non-aggression pact that can break down at any time?
Are Obama and Jarrett willing to cede control of the Democratic party to the Clintons?
FBI has Hilllary's server. What's recoverable?
E-mail scandal can expand if, as many suspect, people like Huma were taking classified documents, stripping off the labels, and then forwarding them to Hillary. Apparently something like this had to happen as a matter of e-mail mechanics, so someone had to do it. Will Comey go there?
Pay-for-play Clinton Cash is the bigger scandal. Unlike the Gowdy Commission, Comey can get into this. Will he? Do recoverable e-mails help here? I bet they do: "huma, make sure I see Mr Big when I'm in Brunei. Baby needs shoes."
If the non-aggression pact breaks down, it doesn't matter how independent Comey is, because Obama is actually driving it. Obama may use MSM to create a show so that he's not seen as driving Hillary's downfall.
If the non-aggression pact holds, Comey may still go rogue. If Lynch doesn't act, will Comey leak that the FBI made a criminal referral? Will anyone else in the FBI leak?
I've long believed that Obama wan'ts a third term and that Hillary isn't his best way of getting around the 22nd Amendment. If Hillary gets indicted or there's a leak of a criminal referral it'll be an open convention.
Obama and the Clintons cut some kind of deal when Biden dropped out. What were the terms? Does Obama get to pick Hillary's VP? Will Obama actively hump the vote for Hillary in the fall of 2016? Or was it a Hitler/Stalin non-aggression pact that can break down at any time?
Are Obama and Jarrett willing to cede control of the Democratic party to the Clintons?
FBI has Hilllary's server. What's recoverable?
E-mail scandal can expand if, as many suspect, people like Huma were taking classified documents, stripping off the labels, and then forwarding them to Hillary. Apparently something like this had to happen as a matter of e-mail mechanics, so someone had to do it. Will Comey go there?
Pay-for-play Clinton Cash is the bigger scandal. Unlike the Gowdy Commission, Comey can get into this. Will he? Do recoverable e-mails help here? I bet they do: "huma, make sure I see Mr Big when I'm in Brunei. Baby needs shoes."
If the non-aggression pact breaks down, it doesn't matter how independent Comey is, because Obama is actually driving it. Obama may use MSM to create a show so that he's not seen as driving Hillary's downfall.
If the non-aggression pact holds, Comey may still go rogue. If Lynch doesn't act, will Comey leak that the FBI made a criminal referral? Will anyone else in the FBI leak?
I've long believed that Obama wan'ts a third term and that Hillary isn't his best way of getting around the 22nd Amendment. If Hillary gets indicted or there's a leak of a criminal referral it'll be an open convention.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (r1fLd)
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Next Step? I wonder if Hillary will next claim that she wasn't the person with primary control of her email, and that this must have been done from some underling (who she won't name).
That's exactly what I expect the defense will be.
State is out there saying there's no indication the paper was ever sent and there is no indication anything in it was classified. How that comports with take the classification off of it is a bit much but still.
I expect the spin on this to be no spin at all. By that I mean the MFM will just ignore it.
That's exactly what I expect the defense will be.
State is out there saying there's no indication the paper was ever sent and there is no indication anything in it was classified. How that comports with take the classification off of it is a bit much but still.
I expect the spin on this to be no spin at all. By that I mean the MFM will just ignore it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (mf5HN)
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If Benghazi didn't derail Hillary Clinton, this won't either. Nothing will happen to her because of this, she'll be the democrat nominee, and probably president.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 08, 2016 01:02 PM (DuH+r)
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Jarrett is cut from the same cloth as Hillary. Just as stupid, just as arrogant, just as lawless. They could be sisters.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (xWW96)
Except they loathe each other with the heat of 10,000,000 suns. Hillary's weakness is that she craves to be top hog wallowing in both power and the limelight because she deserves it for BJ and because she really thinks she knows best. ValJar shuns the limelight and exercises her power through many cutouts and layers upon layers of cover. Of the two, ValJar is far more dangerous and from all indications is a true sociopath, while, Hillary is just a vile narcissist who got all of her power from one pathetic man, BJ Clinton.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (xWW96)
Except they loathe each other with the heat of 10,000,000 suns. Hillary's weakness is that she craves to be top hog wallowing in both power and the limelight because she deserves it for BJ and because she really thinks she knows best. ValJar shuns the limelight and exercises her power through many cutouts and layers upon layers of cover. Of the two, ValJar is far more dangerous and from all indications is a true sociopath, while, Hillary is just a vile narcissist who got all of her power from one pathetic man, BJ Clinton.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:02 PM (kXoT0)
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396 Philly news conference: gun used to shoot cop stolen
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (MbrzC)
418
Takes a village to cover felonies
Posted by: Shirley Q Liquor at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (aUQgu)
419
403
The last gasp of any Democrat withdrawing from running for President happened aboard a boat named the Monkey Business.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (VnEUI)
When Gary Hart pulled out, was it messy?
The last gasp of any Democrat withdrawing from running for President happened aboard a boat named the Monkey Business.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (VnEUI)
When Gary Hart pulled out, was it messy?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (t2m1Y)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (VnEUI)
421
>> If Trump wins the nod, she'll be crushed. Cruz will
>> beat her as well, but not by as wide a margin.
I don't think the Democrats are ever going to let Hillary on a debate stage with either one.
I think Trump would just suck all the oxygen out of the room, and Cruz would probably have her confessing to three more felonies before she even realized she'd opened her mouth.
>> beat her as well, but not by as wide a margin.
I don't think the Democrats are ever going to let Hillary on a debate stage with either one.
I think Trump would just suck all the oxygen out of the room, and Cruz would probably have her confessing to three more felonies before she even realized she'd opened her mouth.
Posted by: JEM at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (o+SC1)
422
I will vote for a Felon as long as she is a Liberal.
Posted by: Joy Behar at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (1ijHg)
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417 396 Philly news conference: gun used to shoot cop stolen
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (MbrzC)
The shooter was a Muzzy who "did it for Islam."
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (MbrzC)
The shooter was a Muzzy who "did it for Islam."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (zLP1L)
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (3rpaY)
425
"The Republic has been dead as a doornail for several years now. SCOTUS crafts "rights" out of thin air. The House of Reps continues to authorize the spending of public monies by departments openly violating laws.
The AG picks and chooses which laws to enforce.
It's tyranny, straight and simple."
Don't forget us here in the Dept of Makin' Shit Up.
The AG picks and chooses which laws to enforce.
It's tyranny, straight and simple."
Don't forget us here in the Dept of Makin' Shit Up.
Posted by: The Supreme Court at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (u5gzz)
426
379 first thing you do is simplify this to
"send nonsecure"
then spread the word everywhere
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (whlmq)
Perfect. The cognoscenti will get the reference, whereas the LIV will ask what the hell you're talking about.
"send nonsecure"
then spread the word everywhere
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (whlmq)
Perfect. The cognoscenti will get the reference, whereas the LIV will ask what the hell you're talking about.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (oKE6c)
427
A North Dakota man was arrested after Washington, D.C., police investigated him on a tip that he traveled to the nation's capital to abduct Bo, one of the Obamas' two dogs, authorities said.
Scott Stockert was set to appear in D.C. Superior Court on Friday on firearms charges for Wednesday's incident at a Hampton Inn near the Washington Convention Center.
An officer responding to a tip from the Secret Service tracked down Stockert at the downtown D.C. hotel. He admitted that he had a shotgun and a rifle in his pickup truck, both unloaded, along with ammunition for the weapons, according to a police report.
It's illegal to possess unregistered firearms in D.C.
The report said police also found a machete and a billy club.
When he was arrested, the police report said, Stockert claimed that his parents were John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe and that he came to the capital to announce his campaign for president and advocate for a $99 per month healthcare plan.
As he was being taken into custody, the apparently mentally disturbed Stockert also told authorities that he was Jesus Christ, court documents said, according to NBC Washington.
Stockert also allegedly said: "You picked the wrong person to mess with. I will [expletive] your world up."
I dont think is FROM ND. I think he LIVES in ND
Scott Stockert was set to appear in D.C. Superior Court on Friday on firearms charges for Wednesday's incident at a Hampton Inn near the Washington Convention Center.
An officer responding to a tip from the Secret Service tracked down Stockert at the downtown D.C. hotel. He admitted that he had a shotgun and a rifle in his pickup truck, both unloaded, along with ammunition for the weapons, according to a police report.
It's illegal to possess unregistered firearms in D.C.
The report said police also found a machete and a billy club.
When he was arrested, the police report said, Stockert claimed that his parents were John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe and that he came to the capital to announce his campaign for president and advocate for a $99 per month healthcare plan.
As he was being taken into custody, the apparently mentally disturbed Stockert also told authorities that he was Jesus Christ, court documents said, according to NBC Washington.
Stockert also allegedly said: "You picked the wrong person to mess with. I will [expletive] your world up."
I dont think is FROM ND. I think he LIVES in ND
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (zOTsN)
428
Ford pardoned Nixon without charges actually being filed. Nothing worse than "unindicted co-conspirator" in Watergate.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (brIR5)
429
>> If Benghazi didn't derail Hillary Clinton, this won't
>> either. Nothing will happen to her because of this,
>> she'll be the democrat nominee, and probably president.
Impeach her the minute she's inaugurated.
>> either. Nothing will happen to her because of this,
>> she'll be the democrat nominee, and probably president.
Impeach her the minute she's inaugurated.
Posted by: JEM at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (whlmq)
431
I think Trump would just suck all the oxygen out of the room, and Cruz would probably have her confessing to three more felonies before she even realized she'd opened her mouth.
My dream ticket.
My dream ticket.
Posted by: jwb7605 at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (DofIg)
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Oh, as J.J. Sefton plugs his blog, going to plug my book.
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Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (VnEUI)
433
Nothing will happen to her. See: zombie Sandy Berger.
Posted by: baldilocks at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (ys2UW)
434
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (9EDu1)
Then you sir, most definitely need a tshirt.
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Then you sir, most definitely need a tshirt.
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Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (gW5Vg)
435
As he was being taken into custody, the apparently mentally disturbed Stockert also told authorities that he was Jesus Christ, court documents said, according to NBC Washington.
Stockert also allegedly said: "You picked the wrong person to mess with. I will [expletive] your world up."
I dont think is FROM ND. I think he LIVES in ND
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (zOTsN)
He was just there for the census
Stockert also allegedly said: "You picked the wrong person to mess with. I will [expletive] your world up."
I dont think is FROM ND. I think he LIVES in ND
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:05 PM (zOTsN)
He was just there for the census
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (fWAjv)
436
We're charges filed before Ford pardoned Nixon?
I don't recall.
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I'm not sure what crimes Nixon really committed. I do not believe articles of impeachment were ever really filed - though I don't think you can pardon those.
I don't recall.
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I'm not sure what crimes Nixon really committed. I do not believe articles of impeachment were ever really filed - though I don't think you can pardon those.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (gmeXX)
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Tobasco, I think that esp. in terms of this post's focus, it certainly would have been appropriate - no, vital - that Clinton be removed from office for perjury.
His failure to be convicted on impeachment charges - and thus removed from office - is pretty much the definition of the rule of law being specifically *not* applied to the most powerful. Can't see any other way to frame it.
If he were just any lawyer out there, then disbarment and loss of license might be the right consequence. As president? There were literally no consequences, for a slam-dunk undeniable federal felony. Impossible to convincingly portray this as anything but a de facto exception to the law for high office holders.
Tobasco, I think that esp. in terms of this post's focus, it certainly would have been appropriate - no, vital - that Clinton be removed from office for perjury.
His failure to be convicted on impeachment charges - and thus removed from office - is pretty much the definition of the rule of law being specifically *not* applied to the most powerful. Can't see any other way to frame it.
If he were just any lawyer out there, then disbarment and loss of license might be the right consequence. As president? There were literally no consequences, for a slam-dunk undeniable federal felony. Impossible to convincingly portray this as anything but a de facto exception to the law for high office holders.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (QDnY+)
438
Does this bombshell signal the end of Trump's campaign as voters recognize the need for serious candidates?
Also, Sen. Marco Rubio shares a touching story of his Grandpa sending unclassified emails.
Join me, Cherry Jacobus, the guy who buys Trump hats and shits in them on youtube, George Will, and Hump the Wonder Camel.
Tonight!
Also, Sen. Marco Rubio shares a touching story of his Grandpa sending unclassified emails.
Join me, Cherry Jacobus, the guy who buys Trump hats and shits in them on youtube, George Will, and Hump the Wonder Camel.
Tonight!
Posted by: Megyn Kelly at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (Ui7Rt)
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Hillary is going to say she had to operate the private server becaus evil Republicans made the atmosphere too to I. To use government computers and that whole non paper term meant take the classified stuff out so it could be transmitted non secure by the rules.
Which is a lie but so has all the rest been and it has had no negative effect.
Which is a lie but so has all the rest been and it has had no negative effect.
Posted by: blaster at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (04y66)
440
I....see....four .....skulls!
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a tortured American at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (RFeQD)
441
Thanks Band, but it looks like Hillary! got to my shot of bourbon before I did. Bitch are the cookie too!
Posted by: Alf767 at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (VtSj9)
442
Gov. Edwin Edwards (LA) was a felon and won an election vs David Duke with this bumper sticker:
"Vote for the crook. It's important."
just sayin
"Vote for the crook. It's important."
just sayin
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (whlmq)
443
Carter pardoned all draft dodgers.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (LA7Cm)
445
you have got to be kidding me
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (whlmq)
It must be tough for him, having to spend half of every work day squirting Liquid Nails onto the soles of his loafers to prevent him from drifting up to the ceiling.
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 12:57 PM (whlmq)
It must be tough for him, having to spend half of every work day squirting Liquid Nails onto the soles of his loafers to prevent him from drifting up to the ceiling.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (cKwwS)
446
I predict Scankles will skate. But, somehow a lot of the Clinton Foundation money will end up under TFG's control.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (1ijHg)
447
https://www.customink.com/g/cjv0-00ad-u3hq
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM
Niiiice.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM
Niiiice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (9EDu1)
Posted by: McCool at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (nCSwS)
449
Too toxic. Not sure what happened there.
Posted by: blaster at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (04y66)
450
423 417 396 Philly news conference: gun used to shoot cop stolen
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (MbrzC)
The shooter was a Muzzy who "did it for Islam."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (zLP1L)
I know this already. I meant watch a reporter as if the cop's gun was stolen while he was at a gun show, a not so great apparently attempt at humor.
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (MbrzC)
The shooter was a Muzzy who "did it for Islam."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (zLP1L)
I know this already. I meant watch a reporter as if the cop's gun was stolen while he was at a gun show, a not so great apparently attempt at humor.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (MbrzC)
451
This oughta make some 'rons cry
It appears that more than two dozen bottles of rare bourbon, stolen from a central Kentucky distillery, will be destroyed.
Investigators say the bottles of Pappy Van Winkle were stolen Buffalo Trace Distillery in Frankfort as part of a theft ring in 2013. Police later recovered the bourbon.
Franklin County Sheriff Pat Melton said he had hoped the bourbon would be auctioned off for charity. However, he told WKYT that the Van Winkle family is worried that the bourbon could have been tampered with or contaminated.
The sheriff says the family wants the 28 bottles to be destroyed as a precaution.
It appears that more than two dozen bottles of rare bourbon, stolen from a central Kentucky distillery, will be destroyed.
Investigators say the bottles of Pappy Van Winkle were stolen Buffalo Trace Distillery in Frankfort as part of a theft ring in 2013. Police later recovered the bourbon.
Franklin County Sheriff Pat Melton said he had hoped the bourbon would be auctioned off for charity. However, he told WKYT that the Van Winkle family is worried that the bourbon could have been tampered with or contaminated.
The sheriff says the family wants the 28 bottles to be destroyed as a precaution.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (fWAjv)
452
This is the Hil! to die one
Posted by: Obama DOJ at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (PNcou)
453
Nice work ace
Posted by: AHFF Geoff at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (DCikg)
454
Well, in that case, I demand the FBI at least scream bloody murder when Loretta Lynch does what we all know Loretta Lynch is going to do.
And then what?
Scankles is going to skate.
The FBI will huff and puff and do nothing.
Trump wants to win? Grab this story by the balls and promise that he will direct his AG to put the bitch in jail within one hour of taking the oath of office.
"Nation of laws," my fat ass.
Well, in that case, I demand the FBI at least scream bloody murder when Loretta Lynch does what we all know Loretta Lynch is going to do.
And then what?
Scankles is going to skate.
The FBI will huff and puff and do nothing.
Trump wants to win? Grab this story by the balls and promise that he will direct his AG to put the bitch in jail within one hour of taking the oath of office.
"Nation of laws," my fat ass.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (X6fMO)
455
436 We're charges filed before Ford pardoned Nixon?
I don't recall.
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I'm not sure what crimes Nixon really committed. I do not believe articles of impeachment were ever really filed - though I don't think you can pardon those.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (gmeXX)
The House voted to go ahead with articles. The Senate had yet to vote when he resigned. No charges were ever filed, but Ford issued a blanket pardon regardless so the nation could move forward.
I don't recall.
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I'm not sure what crimes Nixon really committed. I do not believe articles of impeachment were ever really filed - though I don't think you can pardon those.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (gmeXX)
The House voted to go ahead with articles. The Senate had yet to vote when he resigned. No charges were ever filed, but Ford issued a blanket pardon regardless so the nation could move forward.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (zLP1L)
456
400 362 well lets see if Trump goes after her on this
its a little complex, and not populist red meat
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (zOTsN)
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Huh, he goes after her on the email sh1t and says she should be in prison for in at just about every rally. I'm sure he'll add this to his list of comments about it, though I don't actually think he needs to as it's already baked into his script that she's guilty has hell.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt
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If Trump starts banging on pots and pans about "removing politics from the DOJ and restoring law and order", "reminding government officials that they are supposed to serve the people" and then explicitly promises to have a Trump DOJ prosecute "all the lawbreakers from Hillary Clinton on down", then Melania can call up Mooch and ask when a convenient time would be to come in and see what it would take to class the White House up a little bit.
its a little complex, and not populist red meat
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (zOTsN)
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Huh, he goes after her on the email sh1t and says she should be in prison for in at just about every rally. I'm sure he'll add this to his list of comments about it, though I don't actually think he needs to as it's already baked into his script that she's guilty has hell.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt
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If Trump starts banging on pots and pans about "removing politics from the DOJ and restoring law and order", "reminding government officials that they are supposed to serve the people" and then explicitly promises to have a Trump DOJ prosecute "all the lawbreakers from Hillary Clinton on down", then Melania can call up Mooch and ask when a convenient time would be to come in and see what it would take to class the White House up a little bit.
Posted by: Furious George at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (3GAnN)
457
One man was hospitalized and another is headed to criminal court after a friendly game of beer pong took a dark turn here last month, according to court documents filed in Cass County District Court
now
these guys. they are FROM ND
now
these guys. they are FROM ND
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (zOTsN)
458
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D-FL] is a convicted and impeached Federal judge. In the US House of Representatives.
And the convicted Edwin Edwards just tried to run for a seat in DC.
And the convicted Edwin Edwards just tried to run for a seat in DC.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (VnEUI)
459
A pardon can be worded to include any past offenses or illegal acts that may or may not have been done.
They can be worded by a time period or during the time an office was held in the case of an elected official.
An indictment or even a police report or determination of a charge by a prosecutor is not required.
They can be worded by a time period or during the time an office was held in the case of an elected official.
An indictment or even a police report or determination of a charge by a prosecutor is not required.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (Xo1Rt)
460
When he was arrested, the police report said, Stockert claimed that
his parents were John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe and that he came to
the capital to announce his campaign for president and advocate for a
$99 per month healthcare plan.
As he was being taken into custody, the apparently mentally
disturbed Stockert also told authorities that he was Jesus Christ, court
documents said, according to NBC Washington.
I think the Democrats just found their new candidate.
his parents were John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe and that he came to
the capital to announce his campaign for president and advocate for a
$99 per month healthcare plan.
As he was being taken into custody, the apparently mentally
disturbed Stockert also told authorities that he was Jesus Christ, court
documents said, according to NBC Washington.
I think the Democrats just found their new candidate.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (oKE6c)
461
His failure to be convicted on impeachment charges - and thus removed from office - is pretty much the definition of the rule of law being specifically *not* applied to the most powerful. Can't see any other way to frame it.
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I'm not sure I agree with that. Impeachment is a different animal. It is a more of a political process than a legal one.
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I'm not sure I agree with that. Impeachment is a different animal. It is a more of a political process than a legal one.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (gmeXX)
462
nonpaper.
"No-paper" diplomatic accord "signed" by Iranian FM Mohammad Javad Zarif Khonsari / Catherine Ashton - EU/US plenipotentiary in Davos meetings back in 2013ish?
Try finding mention of the "no-paper" diplomatic accords regarding Iranian affairs on google. good luck.
"No-paper" diplomatic accord "signed" by Iranian FM Mohammad Javad Zarif Khonsari / Catherine Ashton - EU/US plenipotentiary in Davos meetings back in 2013ish?
Try finding mention of the "no-paper" diplomatic accords regarding Iranian affairs on google. good luck.
Posted by: 13times at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (WHVu+)
463
This is about as damning as it can get, but let's be honest, the Obama Justice Dept would rather take its lumps with smoking gun evidence than hand the GOP the White House, even if they dislike the Clintons.
I'm not so sure about that. Why not had the Presidency over to the GOP, then crash the economy? Dems would take the House, Senate and the Presidency back in the next elections. And Obama hates the Clintons.
I'm not so sure about that. Why not had the Presidency over to the GOP, then crash the economy? Dems would take the House, Senate and the Presidency back in the next elections. And Obama hates the Clintons.
Posted by: notsothoreau at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (5HBd1)
464
If Benghazi didn't derail Hillary Clinton, this won't either. Nothing will happen to her because of this, she'll be the democrat nominee, and probably president.
And if that happens, then it's Officially Over for US.
Oh well, we had a good run and did a lot of good things, but we allowed liars to corrupt us.
We were an anomaly. Nothing more.
And if that happens, then it's Officially Over for US.
Oh well, we had a good run and did a lot of good things, but we allowed liars to corrupt us.
We were an anomaly. Nothing more.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (FsuaD)
466
The shooter was a Muzzy who "did it for Islam."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM
We had a cop shot this morning in Boston (well, Dorchester).
Apparently, the shooter was a druggie, and maybe not a Muzzie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM
We had a cop shot this morning in Boston (well, Dorchester).
Apparently, the shooter was a druggie, and maybe not a Muzzie.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (mIvL9)
467
396 Philly news conference: gun used to shoot cop stolen
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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Bullshit.
The president just said last night street thugs were setting up blind charitable trusts to purchase fully automatic weapons and silencers.
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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Bullshit.
The president just said last night street thugs were setting up blind charitable trusts to purchase fully automatic weapons and silencers.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (8XRCm)
468
AtC-
But at some point, the wheels start to come off. We've reached that point.
http://tinyurl.com/zvehglg
But at some point, the wheels start to come off. We've reached that point.
http://tinyurl.com/zvehglg
Posted by: pep at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM (YXmuI)
469
Bill Clinton lifted the ban on the fired PATCO air traffic controllers that Reagan put into effect.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:11 PM (VnEUI)
470
Are not the various Federal Prosecutors supposed to be independent?
If this happened in say... New York... would not THAT Federal Prosecutor be able to indict under his own power?
How did the Attorney General suddenly get to be the ONLY Prosecutor out there with Prosecutorial discretion?
If this happened in say... New York... would not THAT Federal Prosecutor be able to indict under his own power?
How did the Attorney General suddenly get to be the ONLY Prosecutor out there with Prosecutorial discretion?
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:11 PM (f7rv6)
471
She may be in the process of lining up one of her
minions to fall on his or her sword for her, like Jim(?) and Susan
McDougall did for her (and her priapic husband) during the Whitewater
brouhaha.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (/rMpO)
Don't forget Jim Guy Tucker and Webb Hubbell.
minions to fall on his or her sword for her, like Jim(?) and Susan
McDougall did for her (and her priapic husband) during the Whitewater
brouhaha.
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 08, 2016 12:56 PM (/rMpO)
Don't forget Jim Guy Tucker and Webb Hubbell.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:11 PM (t2m1Y)
472
Posted by: gts109 at January 08, 2016 12:34 PM (KIvt1)
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Thank you, gts109. It still seems kind of low-ball to me in terms of her electability, unless a vague stench attaches to her.
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Thank you, gts109. It still seems kind of low-ball to me in terms of her electability, unless a vague stench attaches to her.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (pC96u)
473
Philly police say cop shooter pledged allegiance to ISIS during interview. So there's that.
Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (AJeMv)
Posted by: Max Power at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (q177U)
475
The House voted to go ahead with articles. The Senate had yet to vote when he resigned. No charges were ever filed, but Ford issued a blanket pardon regardless so the nation could move forward.
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Right, you can't pardon impeachment, besides once a person is no longer in office, there is no reason to go forward with impeachment. It is possible that a subsequent administration could have moved forward with some sort of criminal charge against him, but I'm not really sure what the crimes would have been. The remedy was a political one, and it was achieved.
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Right, you can't pardon impeachment, besides once a person is no longer in office, there is no reason to go forward with impeachment. It is possible that a subsequent administration could have moved forward with some sort of criminal charge against him, but I'm not really sure what the crimes would have been. The remedy was a political one, and it was achieved.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (gmeXX)
476
320 This increases the odds of indictment from 0.0% to 0.0000001%
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (WuRdh)
So you're sayin there's a chance...
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at January 08, 2016 12:48 PM (WuRdh)
So you're sayin there's a chance...
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (xuouz)
477
Sullivan is a JD and adjunct law professor, so he had full knowledge
fascinating wiki about him -- he's all over the place, getting managing editor positions immediately, plummy clerkships immediately, top counseling positions immediately
apparently a "debate champion," -- but it looks like little actual expertise and experience in national security
in short, typical
fascinating wiki about him -- he's all over the place, getting managing editor positions immediately, plummy clerkships immediately, top counseling positions immediately
apparently a "debate champion," -- but it looks like little actual expertise and experience in national security
in short, typical
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (whlmq)
478
I'm not sure what crimes Nixon really committed. I do not believe articles of impeachment were ever really filed - though I don't think you can pardon those.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (gmeXX)
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Ah..... the Nixon Impeachment Process.
The same one Hillary was fired from for lying, collaborating, and "shading" evidence.
"Full circle, the thread has come."
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:06 PM (gmeXX)
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Ah..... the Nixon Impeachment Process.
The same one Hillary was fired from for lying, collaborating, and "shading" evidence.
"Full circle, the thread has come."
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (8XRCm)
479
Oh, and I saw Trifecta Burning Skulls open for Mothballed Beef Drapes back in 1998 at the Kennedy Center in DC.
The press didn't cover the show but it was great. The crowd sang along to TBS's hit "Won't Be No Fuckin' Consequences" and we all got stoned out of our minds.
The press didn't cover the show but it was great. The crowd sang along to TBS's hit "Won't Be No Fuckin' Consequences" and we all got stoned out of our minds.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (t8P62)
480
Please God, let the democrats be stupid enough to make gun control a major issue.
Guarantees a victory for the GOP. You want motivation? 80 million gun owners and 14 million hunters will show you motivation.
Guarantees a victory for the GOP. You want motivation? 80 million gun owners and 14 million hunters will show you motivation.
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (jJRIy)
481
473 Philly police say cop shooter pledged allegiance to ISIS during interview. So there's that.
Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (AJeMv)
Absolutely no way to determine motive.
Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at January 08, 2016 01:12 PM (AJeMv)
Absolutely no way to determine motive.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (kpqmD)
482
Impossible to convincingly portray this as anything but a de facto exception to the law for high office holders.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (QDnY+)
Exactly. However, the conviction on Impeachment had to come from the Senate, a political body clearly not interested in the rule of law at that time.
They postured for the cameras for months claiming one thing, then another, as each revelation became public. I remember that KlanBastard from WV saying that if perjury were proven, that would change things and of course, the rule of law would be upheld.
When it mattered, ROL lost to "but he's our devil".
If there's any true animosity left between the parties at the Senate, it's because they were forced for a moment to choose, and were found lacking.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 08, 2016 01:07 PM (QDnY+)
Exactly. However, the conviction on Impeachment had to come from the Senate, a political body clearly not interested in the rule of law at that time.
They postured for the cameras for months claiming one thing, then another, as each revelation became public. I remember that KlanBastard from WV saying that if perjury were proven, that would change things and of course, the rule of law would be upheld.
When it mattered, ROL lost to "but he's our devil".
If there's any true animosity left between the parties at the Senate, it's because they were forced for a moment to choose, and were found lacking.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (kKHcp)
483
Ain't got nothin' to do with this one... You're on your own Hillary... by the way, how is my little Chelsea doing?
Posted by: Webb Hubbell at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (LoIJo)
484
I just finished reading "13 Hours in Benghazi."
There's not a hot enough place in hell for Hillary and Barry.
There's not a hot enough place in hell for Hillary and Barry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (FsuaD)
485
Jarrett is cut from the same cloth as Hillary. Just as stupid, just as arrogant, just as lawless. They could be sisters.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (xWW96)
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This is one of the reasons I thirst for Hillary's implosion. The burning resentment she'll feel towards people like Jarrett who got away with it.
Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at January 08, 2016 12:46 PM (xWW96)
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This is one of the reasons I thirst for Hillary's implosion. The burning resentment she'll feel towards people like Jarrett who got away with it.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (pC96u)
486
Posted by: Furious George at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (3GAnN)
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Oh I'm sure he'll ramp it up if there are charges recommended by lynch does nothing, then it'll be more then just about Hillary, he'll be using as proof the entire system is corrupt as fuck not just Hillary, hell he'll probably start calling for Obama's impeachment.
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Oh I'm sure he'll ramp it up if there are charges recommended by lynch does nothing, then it'll be more then just about Hillary, he'll be using as proof the entire system is corrupt as fuck not just Hillary, hell he'll probably start calling for Obama's impeachment.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (MbrzC)
487
Are not the various Federal Prosecutors supposed to be independent?
If this happened in say... New York... would not THAT Federal Prosecutor be able to indict under his own power?
How did the Attorney General suddenly get to be the ONLY Prosecutor out there with Prosecutorial discretion?
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You simply cannot prosecute a former SOS without the full blessing of the President. As it should be. While they have some independence on some things, ultimately, all prosecuters are mere agents of the President. And if the President says prosecute or don't prosecute, you either comply or get sacked.
If this happened in say... New York... would not THAT Federal Prosecutor be able to indict under his own power?
How did the Attorney General suddenly get to be the ONLY Prosecutor out there with Prosecutorial discretion?
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You simply cannot prosecute a former SOS without the full blessing of the President. As it should be. While they have some independence on some things, ultimately, all prosecuters are mere agents of the President. And if the President says prosecute or don't prosecute, you either comply or get sacked.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (gmeXX)
488
A performance artist has taken to the very same square in which dozens of women were sexually assaulted, stolen from, and raped, in a bid to remind Germany and the newly arrived migrants that women are ''not fair game'' even when naked.
Breitbart, two versions of photo SFW and NSFW on same page. Worth a look, for practice in reading German. Of course.
Breitbart, two versions of photo SFW and NSFW on same page. Worth a look, for practice in reading German. Of course.
Posted by: Ben Dover at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (fbovC)
489
Bill is a piece of shit, but I don't think he belonged behind bars for lying about an affair in a sexual harassment lawsuit
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (MWLby)
I do. I just hate the SOB, but you're right.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (WWdgA)
EXCEPT, it was a superior/subordinate relationship in which all the players were government employees and the actual sex took place in a government facility during working hours. They not only violated laws on sexual misconduct and harassment, they violated labor laws, particularly payroll laws. Back in the day, in the oil company for which I worked, a certain VP had a known affair for years with his executive secretary. They were both fired for falsifying her timesheets and his expense reports. He was warned not to use the company credit card for their 4 hour lunches and that as an hourly employee, she had to make up those hours. I heard one guy say flippantly, "It may have been a working lunch, but, no damn secretary can take dictation tied down to a bed with her boss's dick in her mouth."
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (MWLby)
I do. I just hate the SOB, but you're right.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 08, 2016 12:55 PM (WWdgA)
EXCEPT, it was a superior/subordinate relationship in which all the players were government employees and the actual sex took place in a government facility during working hours. They not only violated laws on sexual misconduct and harassment, they violated labor laws, particularly payroll laws. Back in the day, in the oil company for which I worked, a certain VP had a known affair for years with his executive secretary. They were both fired for falsifying her timesheets and his expense reports. He was warned not to use the company credit card for their 4 hour lunches and that as an hourly employee, she had to make up those hours. I heard one guy say flippantly, "It may have been a working lunch, but, no damn secretary can take dictation tied down to a bed with her boss's dick in her mouth."
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (kXoT0)
490
Gov. Edwin Edwards (LA) was a felon and won an election vs David Duke with this bumper sticker:
"Vote for the crook. It's important."
just sayin
IIRC, that bumpersticker was actually put out by the Republicans.
"Vote for the crook. It's important."
just sayin
IIRC, that bumpersticker was actually put out by the Republicans.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 08, 2016 01:15 PM (6TPa2)
491
OT: Politico has one of the Koch brothers bemoaning their lack of influence this election. Quote from Koch:
Koch said that if Trump was successful with his proposal to require all Muslims entering the U.S. to register with the government, then "well, then you destroy our free society."
Clueless in libertarian land.
Koch said that if Trump was successful with his proposal to require all Muslims entering the U.S. to register with the government, then "well, then you destroy our free society."
Clueless in libertarian land.
Posted by: WOPR at January 08, 2016 01:15 PM (LTDSy)
492
The burning resentment she'll feel towards people like Jarrett who got away with it.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (pC96u)
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People have turned states evidence for a lot less.... just saying.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (pC96u)
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People have turned states evidence for a lot less.... just saying.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:15 PM (8XRCm)
493
470 Are not the various Federal Prosecutors supposed to be independent?
If this happened in say... New York... would not THAT Federal Prosecutor be able to indict under his own power?
How did the Attorney General suddenly get to be the ONLY Prosecutor out there with Prosecutorial discretion?
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:11 PM (f7rv6)
Didn't Clinton or somebody fire essentially all the US Attorneys and replace them with his own guys?
If this happened in say... New York... would not THAT Federal Prosecutor be able to indict under his own power?
How did the Attorney General suddenly get to be the ONLY Prosecutor out there with Prosecutorial discretion?
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:11 PM (f7rv6)
Didn't Clinton or somebody fire essentially all the US Attorneys and replace them with his own guys?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 08, 2016 01:15 PM (oKE6c)
494
here's a cloth, wipe the servers like they do on NCIS
Posted by: HRC at January 08, 2016 01:15 PM (LoIJo)
495
Impeachment is a different animal. It is a more of a political process than a legal one.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM
Yes it is. The ball is in Congress's court, and if they choose not to see the ample evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors" (or, more accurately in Choom Boy's case, "high crimes and felonies) there's nothing we can do about it.
It might have helped if the Learned Pundits of True Conservatism could have pulled their heads out of their asses and cut out the "optics" bullshit long enough to notice what was/is going on, but it didn't happen so we'll never know.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:10 PM
Yes it is. The ball is in Congress's court, and if they choose not to see the ample evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors" (or, more accurately in Choom Boy's case, "high crimes and felonies) there's nothing we can do about it.
It might have helped if the Learned Pundits of True Conservatism could have pulled their heads out of their asses and cut out the "optics" bullshit long enough to notice what was/is going on, but it didn't happen so we'll never know.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 08, 2016 01:15 PM (mIvL9)
496
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:08 PM (gmeXX)
Actually, no he didn't.
It was a conditional amnesty. Those that wished to have their actions dismissed had to appear in the US and file papers and agree to do community service. Length to be determined.
He also included those discharged from the service for being absent from their unit or having fled to Canada to be given General (for the good of the service) discharges. They too had to file paperwork to qualify and agree to do community service.
At least that's what I remember from what the press said at the time.
There were not that many takers due to the legal ramifications and that most of those that it applied to saw no reason to take part as their status at the time was not hurting them. Except for those in Canada with pending Military charges who wished to re enter the US.
Actually, no he didn't.
It was a conditional amnesty. Those that wished to have their actions dismissed had to appear in the US and file papers and agree to do community service. Length to be determined.
He also included those discharged from the service for being absent from their unit or having fled to Canada to be given General (for the good of the service) discharges. They too had to file paperwork to qualify and agree to do community service.
At least that's what I remember from what the press said at the time.
There were not that many takers due to the legal ramifications and that most of those that it applied to saw no reason to take part as their status at the time was not hurting them. Except for those in Canada with pending Military charges who wished to re enter the US.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 08, 2016 01:15 PM (Xo1Rt)
497
*throws wet towel on flaming skulls*
Posted by: Loretta Lynch at January 08, 2016 01:16 PM (n22zQ)
498
Don't forget Jim Guy Tucker and Webb Hubbell.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:11 PM (t2m1Y)
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All blasts from the past the MSM will never mention that need to be revisited.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:11 PM (t2m1Y)
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All blasts from the past the MSM will never mention that need to be revisited.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:16 PM (MbrzC)
499
Note.... this is coming to light not because of CONGRESS... but because of a PRIVATE LAWSUIT.
GOPe could not even get this far....
GOPe could not even get this far....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:16 PM (f7rv6)
500
Philly news conference: gun used to shoot cop stolen
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (MbrzC)
The shooter was a Muzzy who "did it for Islam."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (zLP1L)
I wonder if teary eyed Barry will hold a press conference over this
From a cop.
Posted by: Rudy at January 08, 2016 12:59 PM (brIR5)
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at a gun show? /s
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:03 PM (MbrzC)
The shooter was a Muzzy who "did it for Islam."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 08, 2016 01:04 PM (zLP1L)
I wonder if teary eyed Barry will hold a press conference over this
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (493sH)
501
Speaking of things coming full circle.
When Cindy Sheehan - what ever happened to her? - was doing her protest outside Crawford. Two Sultans of Hate joined her there: Al Sharpton and David Duke.
When Cindy Sheehan - what ever happened to her? - was doing her protest outside Crawford. Two Sultans of Hate joined her there: Al Sharpton and David Duke.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (VnEUI)
502
Ah..... the Nixon Impeachment Process.
The same one Hillary was fired from for lying, collaborating, and "shading" evidence.
"Full circle, the thread has come."
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (8XRCm)
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Hilarious isn't it. More so that none of the LIV's or even most dems have any clue about that.
Ah..... the Nixon Impeachment Process.
The same one Hillary was fired from for lying, collaborating, and "shading" evidence.
"Full circle, the thread has come."
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:13 PM (8XRCm)
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Hilarious isn't it. More so that none of the LIV's or even most dems have any clue about that.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (MbrzC)
503
Didn't Clinton or somebody fire essentially all the US Attorneys and replace them with his own guys?
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Something all Presidents should be able to do, except for W. When he did it, it was awful. According to the media.
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Something all Presidents should be able to do, except for W. When he did it, it was awful. According to the media.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (gmeXX)
504
The FOIA request that resulted in the release of the smoking gun today was NOT filed by Judicial Watch or another conservative legal group.
It was filed by an obscure leftwing outfit that had a hate-on for some EPA official-- and snagged HRC as an unintended consequence.
It was filed by an obscure leftwing outfit that had a hate-on for some EPA official-- and snagged HRC as an unintended consequence.
Posted by: mnw at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (mzTVj)
505
GOPe could not even get this far....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:16 PM (f7rv6)
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The GOPe didnt want to get this far....
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:16 PM (f7rv6)
----
The GOPe didnt want to get this far....
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (8XRCm)
506
My friends, we have nothing to fear with Hillary Clinton in the White House
Posted by: John McCain at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (LoIJo)
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM (whlmq)
508
@461 I'm not sure I agree with that. Impeachment is a different animal. It is a more of a political process than a legal one.
Posted by: SH
____________
Regardless whether political or legal, I vote haggis.
Posted by: SH
____________
Regardless whether political or legal, I vote haggis.
Posted by: Zombie Arlen Specter at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM (3GAnN)
509
Let's not bicker and argue about oo emailed secure information by non-secure means to oo, this is supposed to be a happy occasion!
Posted by: Father of the Groom at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM (zOTsN)
511
298
Biden/Warren 2016...
without having to go through the primaries
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (LoIJo)
Their campaign commercial can be a clip from an old movie of indians chasing a steam locomotive.
Biden/Warren 2016...
without having to go through the primaries
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (LoIJo)
Their campaign commercial can be a clip from an old movie of indians chasing a steam locomotive.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)
512
The president just said last night street thugs were setting up blind charitable trusts to purchase fully automatic weapons and silencers.
Posted by: fixerupper
The Salvation Army has quite the arsenal.
Posted by: fixerupper
The Salvation Army has quite the arsenal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 08, 2016 01:19 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:19 PM (zOTsN)
514
The FOIA request that resulted in the release of the smoking gun today was NOT filed by Judicial Watch or another conservative legal group.
It was filed by an obscure leftwing outfit that had a hate-on for some EPA official-- and snagged HRC as an unintended consequence.
Posted by: mnw at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (mzTVj)
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**best Johnny Carson voice**
"I did not know that"
.... and if you dont know who Johnny Carson is.... git off my lawn.
It was filed by an obscure leftwing outfit that had a hate-on for some EPA official-- and snagged HRC as an unintended consequence.
Posted by: mnw at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (mzTVj)
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**best Johnny Carson voice**
"I did not know that"
.... and if you dont know who Johnny Carson is.... git off my lawn.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)
515
No Joe, you're the Lone Ranger, I'm supposed to be Tonto
Posted by: Liawatha at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (LoIJo)
516
I just finished reading "13 Hours in Benghazi."
There's not a hot enough place in hell for Hillary and Barry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Pretty good read. I haven't seen the movie yet.
There's not a hot enough place in hell for Hillary and Barry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Pretty good read. I haven't seen the movie yet.
Posted by: Loretta Lynch at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (n22zQ)
517
a *fantastic* performance artist
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM
With no fur on a 39 degree (F) day.
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM
With no fur on a 39 degree (F) day.
Posted by: Ben Dover at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (fbovC)
518
*knock knock*
"Mrs. Clinton?
"Yes"
"There's some chickens out here from the 1970's. They say they're looking for you? And they're tired and pissed."
"Mrs. Clinton?
"Yes"
"There's some chickens out here from the 1970's. They say they're looking for you? And they're tired and pissed."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (Xo1Rt)
519
So does the Clinton trust now have howitzers?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (VnEUI)
520
506
My friends, we have nothing to fear with Hillary Clinton in the White House
Posted by: John McCain at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (LoIJo)
*nut punch*
My friends, we have nothing to fear with Hillary Clinton in the White House
Posted by: John McCain at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (LoIJo)
*nut punch*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (FsuaD)
521
OT: Politico has one of the Koch brothers bemoaning their lack of influence this election. Quote from Koch:
Koch said that if Trump was successful with his proposal to require all Muslims entering the U.S. to register with the government, then "well, then you destroy our free society."
Clueless in libertarian land.
Let's drop a few headchopping goatfux off at your office then, why don't we?
Koch said that if Trump was successful with his proposal to require all Muslims entering the U.S. to register with the government, then "well, then you destroy our free society."
Clueless in libertarian land.
Let's drop a few headchopping goatfux off at your office then, why don't we?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (LUgeY)
522
It would be nice if Jug Ears was still pissed at Billy Jeff for saying at one time he would be serving coffee to folks instead of running for prezzy back in '08. Holding a grudge and giving Lynch the green light to prosecute Cankles would be fun to watch.
Won't happen though.
Won't happen though.
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (3rpaY)
523
Crap. Sheds quisling AG sock.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (n22zQ)
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (zOTsN)
525
I predict a nothing-burger
Posted by: Nostradamus at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM (LoIJo)
526
Don't worry, Bill gave me a blanket pardon on all future crimes just before he left office.
Best present since he hired me those underage strippers for a weekend!
CACKLECACKLECACKLECACKLECACKLECACKLE
Best present since he hired me those underage strippers for a weekend!
CACKLECACKLECACKLECACKLECACKLECACKLE
Posted by: Hilary at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM (PNcou)
527
I was flying out of Little Rock in 2004 or so and the ticket agent accidentally gave me Susan MacDougalls boarding pass. She was in line in front of me.
True story.
True story.
Posted by: blaster at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM (04y66)
528
403
The last gasp of any Democrat withdrawing from running for President happened aboard a boat named the Monkey Business.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (VnEUI)
And the media's hand was forced on that one. Hart dared them to catch him doing something wrong. It was too in the face to ignore it.
The last gasp of any Democrat withdrawing from running for President happened aboard a boat named the Monkey Business.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:00 PM (VnEUI)
And the media's hand was forced on that one. Hart dared them to catch him doing something wrong. It was too in the face to ignore it.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM (4ErVI)
529
497 *throws wet American flag on flaming skulls*
Posted by: Loretta Lynch at January 08, 2016 01:16 PM (n22zQ)
FTFY
Posted by: Loretta Lynch at January 08, 2016 01:16 PM (n22zQ)
FTFY
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM (xuouz)
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM (gmeXX)
531
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:14 PM (gmeXX)
Actually... uh no...
The Attorney General is supposed to be independent, even though he works for the President...
Because otherwise the very concept of prosecutorial discretion is moot...
Actually... uh no...
The Attorney General is supposed to be independent, even though he works for the President...
Because otherwise the very concept of prosecutorial discretion is moot...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:22 PM (f7rv6)
532
511
298
Biden/Warren 2016...
without having to go through the primaries
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (LoIJo)
Their campaign commercial can be a clip from an old movie of indians chasing a steam locomotive.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)
_______
*wipes off monitor*
511
298
Biden/Warren 2016...
without having to go through the primaries
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 08, 2016 12:45 PM (LoIJo)
Their campaign commercial can be a clip from an old movie of indians chasing a steam locomotive.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 08, 2016 01:18 PM (RD7QR)
_______
*wipes off monitor*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (FsuaD)
533
Hey Hillary, you wanna get schlonged again???
Posted by: Webb Hubbell at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (LoIJo)
534
I want to see the moment it hits her. All the
years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer
(at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and
collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
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You make it sound like she's a long-suffering victim. She's nothing of the kind.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (3ZtZW)
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Not a long-suffering victim, but definitely someone whose grueling, grasping, decades of work will go up in smoke.
years of standing by, lying for, and being shit on by a serial womanizer
(at best). All the work. All the back room deals. All favors owed and
collected. All of it. Means. Nothing.
====
You make it sound like she's a long-suffering victim. She's nothing of the kind.
Posted by: Bigby's Oven Mitts at January 08, 2016 12:54 PM (3ZtZW)
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Not a long-suffering victim, but definitely someone whose grueling, grasping, decades of work will go up in smoke.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (pC96u)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (FkBIv)
536
I was flying out of Little Rock in 2004 or so and the ticket agent accidentally gave me Susan MacDougalls boarding pass. She was in line in front of me.
True story.
Posted by: blaster at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM
Web Hubbel's daughter (not Chelsea) used to sit behind me in torts. Nice kid, as I recall. Lefty, but nice.
True story.
Posted by: blaster at January 08, 2016 01:21 PM
Web Hubbel's daughter (not Chelsea) used to sit behind me in torts. Nice kid, as I recall. Lefty, but nice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (9EDu1)
537
What zombie wrote yesterday about Fredo-worshippers wanting him to be president for life keeps coming back to mind. We all know the Constitution is nothing but a crumpled piece of asswipe in the corner of the DC bus station restroom.
Now imagine an election being postponed because there was no one to run against the repub, OR Fredo declaring himself as the dem candidate. Who would fight that? The repubs in congress? Ha!
Now imagine an election being postponed because there was no one to run against the repub, OR Fredo declaring himself as the dem candidate. Who would fight that? The repubs in congress? Ha!
Posted by: Soona at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (Fmupd)
538
The Salvation Army has quite the arsenal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
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Yeah, but they've downgraded (to my disappointment) to plastic 'kettles'.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr
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Yeah, but they've downgraded (to my disappointment) to plastic 'kettles'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (n22zQ)
539
what ever happened to her?
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To be fair she kept up her bullsh1t for awhile after Obama took office, targeting Obama too... suddenly the press didn't give a sh1t anymore about her and basically she went away with an occasional protest here and there between her failed congressional and gubernatorial runs, oh and she became a BinLaden death = hoaxer. Related - I'll give this to the code-pink freaks in general, they actually have been pretty consistent across presidents they just had more support and media under Bush (funny that huh).
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To be fair she kept up her bullsh1t for awhile after Obama took office, targeting Obama too... suddenly the press didn't give a sh1t anymore about her and basically she went away with an occasional protest here and there between her failed congressional and gubernatorial runs, oh and she became a BinLaden death = hoaxer. Related - I'll give this to the code-pink freaks in general, they actually have been pretty consistent across presidents they just had more support and media under Bush (funny that huh).
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:24 PM (MbrzC)
540
he conviction on Impeachment had to come from the Senate, a political body clearly not interested in the rule of law at that time.
They postured for the cameras for months claiming one thing, then another, as each revelation became public. I remember that KlanBastard from WV saying that if perjury were proven, that would change things and of course, the rule of law would be upheld.
When it mattered, ROL lost to "but he's our devil".
If there's any true animosity left between the parties at the Senate, it's because they were forced for a moment to choose, and were found lacking.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
But according to Vic, it will be magically different if we "put it on the table" now.
They postured for the cameras for months claiming one thing, then another, as each revelation became public. I remember that KlanBastard from WV saying that if perjury were proven, that would change things and of course, the rule of law would be upheld.
When it mattered, ROL lost to "but he's our devil".
If there's any true animosity left between the parties at the Senate, it's because they were forced for a moment to choose, and were found lacking.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
But according to Vic, it will be magically different if we "put it on the table" now.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 01:24 PM (326rv)
541
>> Everybody take off your clothes!
Ok, now what? Co-workers are beginning to give me strange looks.
Ok, now what? Co-workers are beginning to give me strange looks.
Posted by: Duncanthrax the Bellicose at January 08, 2016 01:24 PM (nSW/N)
542
This is the worst timing possible, the empathy chip 4.15 has major bugs to be worked out
Posted by: Allen Turing at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (LoIJo)
543
The Attorney General is supposed to be independent, even though he works for the President...
Because otherwise the very concept of prosecutorial discretion is moot... Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:22 PM
Yup. That's how it's s'posed to be.
Don't think anyone passed that little informational tidbit to Holder or Lovely Loretta Lynch, though. I'm sure Choom Boy didn't tell 'em.
Because otherwise the very concept of prosecutorial discretion is moot... Posted by: BB Wolf at January 08, 2016 01:22 PM
Yup. That's how it's s'posed to be.
Don't think anyone passed that little informational tidbit to Holder or Lovely Loretta Lynch, though. I'm sure Choom Boy didn't tell 'em.
Posted by: MrScribbler at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (mIvL9)
544
.... and if you dont know who Johnny Carson is.... git off my lawn.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)
Look here old timer, we millenials may be shiftless layabouts with no conception of hard work, but what we DO know is pop culture. That's extremely insulting. In fact.
IN FACT, I dare say I might be feeling a little MICRO-AGGR-
No, I'm not really. All my fury reserves were burned up in the NYE festivities in Koln.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)
Look here old timer, we millenials may be shiftless layabouts with no conception of hard work, but what we DO know is pop culture. That's extremely insulting. In fact.
IN FACT, I dare say I might be feeling a little MICRO-AGGR-
No, I'm not really. All my fury reserves were burned up in the NYE festivities in Koln.
Posted by: Ghost of kari at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (xuouz)
545
The president just said last night street thugs
were setting up blind charitable trusts to purchase fully automatic
weapons and silencers.
Posted by: fixerupper
The Salvation Army has quite the arsenal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 08, 2016 01:19 PM (FkBIv)
We're keeping an eye on Army Archerd too...
...Oh, he's dead? Well there you go, what's a dead guy need an arsenal for?
were setting up blind charitable trusts to purchase fully automatic
weapons and silencers.
Posted by: fixerupper
The Salvation Army has quite the arsenal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 08, 2016 01:19 PM (FkBIv)
We're keeping an eye on Army Archerd too...
...Oh, he's dead? Well there you go, what's a dead guy need an arsenal for?
Posted by: Your ATandF at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (TOk1P)
546
Not a long-suffering victim, but definitely someone whose grueling, grasping, decades of work will go up in smoke.
Posted by: iforgot
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clutching, conniving, deal-making, intimidation
Posted by: iforgot
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clutching, conniving, deal-making, intimidation
Posted by: Mike Hammer at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (n22zQ)
547
Does anybody remember that the gal on the Monkey Business giving Gary Hart a lap dance was a "friend" of Billy Jeff?
I remember that.
I remember that.
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (3rpaY)
548
philly shooter not only stole a cops gun but was a felon
Posted by: ThunderB at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (zOTsN)
549
.... and if you dont know who Johnny Carson is.... git off my lawn.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)
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Indeed!
Millennial response: Who? Oh you mean OJ's lawyer?
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)
---
Indeed!
Millennial response: Who? Oh you mean OJ's lawyer?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (MbrzC)
550
533
Hey Hillary, you wanna get schlonged again???
Posted by: Webb Hubbell at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (LoIJo)
I think Huma will get wienered first. Maybe she'll sing, but I bet she keeps her mouth shut if she knows what's good for her.
Hey Hillary, you wanna get schlonged again???
Posted by: Webb Hubbell at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (LoIJo)
I think Huma will get wienered first. Maybe she'll sing, but I bet she keeps her mouth shut if she knows what's good for her.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (t2m1Y)
551
It was filed by an obscure leftwing outfit that had a hate-on for some EPA official-- and snagged HRC as an unintended consequence.
Posted by: mnw at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (mzTVj)
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Boy are they pissed at themselves.
Posted by: mnw at January 08, 2016 01:17 PM (mzTVj)
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Boy are they pissed at themselves.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (MbrzC)
552
98
OT:
Surprise, surprise. The bacteria that ambushed the Philly cop was a Muslim who "did it in the name of Islam."
Shocking, I know.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I was thinking BLM thug. So much to choose from these days.
OT:
Surprise, surprise. The bacteria that ambushed the Philly cop was a Muslim who "did it in the name of Islam."
Shocking, I know.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I was thinking BLM thug. So much to choose from these days.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (kfcYC)
553
So a left wing group found this?
Trump at next rally, "Hillary is such a national security disaster. Fellow Democrats found out she was breaking the law and endangering the lives of all Americans to line her own pockets with money. She wants to be rich, while they accuse me of being evil for having money. This woman must not be elected President. She is criminally unfit."
Trump at next rally, "Hillary is such a national security disaster. Fellow Democrats found out she was breaking the law and endangering the lives of all Americans to line her own pockets with money. She wants to be rich, while they accuse me of being evil for having money. This woman must not be elected President. She is criminally unfit."
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (VnEUI)
554
Web Hubbel's daughter (not Chelsea) used to sit behind me in torts. Nice kid, as I recall. Lefty, but nice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (9EDu1)
I knew it couldn't have been Chelsea because she never went to class--class was for little people.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (9EDu1)
I knew it couldn't have been Chelsea because she never went to class--class was for little people.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (kXoT0)
555
The Attorney General is supposed to be independent, even though he works for the President...
Because otherwise the very concept of prosecutorial discretion is moot..
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Supposed to be by whom? The Constitution is clear on this. The executive is vested in the President. Him alone. We can pretend that we want them to be independent, but that is not permissible under our Constutitional structure.
There is prosecutional discretion, but ultimately the discretion resides with the President. Now he may delegate that discretion to them on small matters, drug cases against individual, smaller parties.
He may also stay out of it to avoid showing an partiality - but that is a political maneuvar.
The President has the power to quash any prosecution.
Because otherwise the very concept of prosecutorial discretion is moot..
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Supposed to be by whom? The Constitution is clear on this. The executive is vested in the President. Him alone. We can pretend that we want them to be independent, but that is not permissible under our Constutitional structure.
There is prosecutional discretion, but ultimately the discretion resides with the President. Now he may delegate that discretion to them on small matters, drug cases against individual, smaller parties.
He may also stay out of it to avoid showing an partiality - but that is a political maneuvar.
The President has the power to quash any prosecution.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (gmeXX)
556
Thing I can't get past is we wouldn't even be hearing about this if Obama and Jarrett supported Hillary. It would be down the memory hole. Instead it just keeps boiling away.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 01:27 PM (4ErVI)
557
>>>Right, you can't pardon impeachment
You can pardon the crimes associated with impeachment so that they can't be criminally prosecuted.
You can pardon the crimes associated with impeachment so that they can't be criminally prosecuted.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at January 08, 2016 01:27 PM (0q2P7)
558
Now imagine an election being postponed because there was no one to run against the repub, OR Fredo declaring himself as the dem candidate. Who would fight that? The repubs in congress? Ha!
Posted by: Soona at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (Fmupd)
John Roberts: It looks like a tax to me
Posted by: Soona at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (Fmupd)
John Roberts: It looks like a tax to me
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 08, 2016 01:27 PM (493sH)
559
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT HILLARY'S EMAILS!
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at January 08, 2016 01:27 PM (n22zQ)
560
It's true that Webster dorked Hillary, and that was acceptable to me because it kept the lard ass from poking my taco.
It's true that Webster dorked Hillary, and that was acceptable to me because it kept the lard ass from poking my taco.
Posted by: Suzy Hubbell at January 08, 2016 01:27 PM (OiFtZ)
561
I wonder if the person who 'cleaned up' the emails simply didn't understand the import and let it slip through.
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It must have zinged past whatever keywords they used to pluck out damning emails -- although "nonsecure" looks pretty key.
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It must have zinged past whatever keywords they used to pluck out damning emails -- although "nonsecure" looks pretty key.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:27 PM (pC96u)
562
I knew it couldn't have been Chelsea because she never went to class--class was for little people.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM
LOL
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM
LOL
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (9EDu1)
563
549 .... and if you dont know who Johnny Carson is.... git off my lawn.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)
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Indeed!
Millennial response: Who? Oh you mean OJ's lawyer?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (MbrzC)
Who is OJ?
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (8XRCm)
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Indeed!
Millennial response: Who? Oh you mean OJ's lawyer?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (MbrzC)
Who is OJ?
Posted by: Millenial... at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (f7rv6)
564
I think Huma will get wienered first. Maybe she'll sing, but I bet she keeps her mouth shut if she knows what's good for her.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (t2m1Y)
Huma will just flee to a muslim country. Her family is deep in the Muslim Brotherhood. As much as I'd like to see her do time, prosecutors and judges would be murdered by MB operatives first.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:26 PM (t2m1Y)
Huma will just flee to a muslim country. Her family is deep in the Muslim Brotherhood. As much as I'd like to see her do time, prosecutors and judges would be murdered by MB operatives first.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (kXoT0)
565
I don't think Donna Rice was a friend of Bills. She was a USC (South Carolina) cheerleader before and after all the publicity she became an anti porn activist.
Posted by: blaster at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (04y66)
566
Web Hubbel's daughter (not Chelsea) used to sit behind me in torts. Nice kid, as I recall. Lefty, but nice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (9EDu1)
How did she look in them? The torts, I mean.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:23 PM (9EDu1)
How did she look in them? The torts, I mean.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (t2m1Y)
567
521
OT: Politico has one of the Koch brothers bemoaning their lack of influence this election. Quote from Koch:
Koch said that if Trump was successful with his proposal to require
all Muslims entering the U.S. to register with the government, then
"well, then you destroy our free society."
Clueless in libertarian land.
Let's drop a few headchopping goatfux off at your office then, why don't we?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (LUgeY)
===========================
There's at least one now in West Philly.Shot at police point blank range last night.So there's that
521
OT: Politico has one of the Koch brothers bemoaning their lack of influence this election. Quote from Koch:
Koch said that if Trump was successful with his proposal to require
all Muslims entering the U.S. to register with the government, then
"well, then you destroy our free society."
Clueless in libertarian land.
Let's drop a few headchopping goatfux off at your office then, why don't we?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 08, 2016 01:20 PM (LUgeY)
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There's at least one now in West Philly.Shot at police point blank range last night.So there's that
Posted by: Dickie Betts fan at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (aUQgu)
568
>>>>The Clinton Foundation and its myriad tentacles are all part of the
giant Clinton Inc. influence peddling machine. Seriously, does anyone
think that "investors" in the son-in-law's "hedge fund" ever expect to
get returns? But you betcha the "hedge fund" pays "management fees" to
the son-in-law to support Chelsea's Manhattan lifestyle. What possible
reason would anyone have to contribute hundreds of thousands to the
library, or the legal defense fund, if not to buy influence with the
Clintons? If a US bank hired the spouse of the Nigerian foreign minister
to give a speech for $600,000, it would be a blatant violation of the
Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, yet when a Nigerian bank hires the spouse
of the Secretary of State to give a speech, we're supposed to believe
it's just really interested in what he has to say to them? The rule of
law died a long time ago.
.
.
.
.The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
giant Clinton Inc. influence peddling machine. Seriously, does anyone
think that "investors" in the son-in-law's "hedge fund" ever expect to
get returns? But you betcha the "hedge fund" pays "management fees" to
the son-in-law to support Chelsea's Manhattan lifestyle. What possible
reason would anyone have to contribute hundreds of thousands to the
library, or the legal defense fund, if not to buy influence with the
Clintons? If a US bank hired the spouse of the Nigerian foreign minister
to give a speech for $600,000, it would be a blatant violation of the
Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, yet when a Nigerian bank hires the spouse
of the Secretary of State to give a speech, we're supposed to believe
it's just really interested in what he has to say to them? The rule of
law died a long time ago.
.
.
.
.The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
569
Does anybody remember that the gal on the Monkey Business giving Gary Hart a lap dance was a "friend" of Billy Jeff?
I remember that.
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (3rpaY)
Donna Rice... I don't recall ever hearing a connection to Clitton.
I remember that.
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 01:25 PM (3rpaY)
Donna Rice... I don't recall ever hearing a connection to Clitton.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:30 PM (TOk1P)
570
.... and if you dont know who Johnny Carson is.... git off my lawn.
Posted by: fixerupper
You can see him every night on AntennaTV.
http://tinyurl.com/h2zsc4k
Posted by: fixerupper
You can see him every night on AntennaTV.
http://tinyurl.com/h2zsc4k
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 08, 2016 01:30 PM (FkBIv)
571
BTW, has anyone read about Bernie's wife and family funneling money out of Burlington College?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j5zrntc
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j5zrntc
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 08, 2016 01:30 PM (n22zQ)
572
How did she look in them? The torts, I mean.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (t2m1Y)
She wears tort torts?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (t2m1Y)
She wears tort torts?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:31 PM (cKwwS)
573
How did she look in them? The torts, I mean.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM
She tould've lost a few pounds, but she wasn't a bad looker.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM
She tould've lost a few pounds, but she wasn't a bad looker.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:31 PM (9EDu1)
574
LOL
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (9EDu1)
I really wasn't joking. Old Chelz has never worked a day in her life at anything. She got handed grades for being with Daddy/Mommy/Both on this or that world trip where one of the minions would write a report about it for C to turn in for credit. As for C, she was busy getting drunk with whatever guy Daddy/Mommy/Both could get to party with her.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (9EDu1)
I really wasn't joking. Old Chelz has never worked a day in her life at anything. She got handed grades for being with Daddy/Mommy/Both on this or that world trip where one of the minions would write a report about it for C to turn in for credit. As for C, she was busy getting drunk with whatever guy Daddy/Mommy/Both could get to party with her.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:31 PM (kXoT0)
575
.The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
Given that Bill looks like death on toast these days that might be why Hillary has been so grabby. Got to ladle the gravy while the gravy trains is still running.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
Given that Bill looks like death on toast these days that might be why Hillary has been so grabby. Got to ladle the gravy while the gravy trains is still running.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 08, 2016 01:31 PM (RD7QR)
576
Tobasco, I think that esp. in terms of this post's focus, it certainly would have been appropriate - no, vital - that Clinton be removed from office for perjury.
His failure to be convicted on impeachment charges - and thus removed from office - is pretty much the definition of the rule of law being specifically *not* applied to the most powerful. Can't see any other way to frame it.
If he were just any lawyer out there, then disbarment and loss of license might be the right consequence. As president? There were literally no consequences, for a slam-dunk undeniable federal felony. Impossible to convincingly portray this as anything but a de facto exception to the law for high office holders.
Posted by: rhomboi
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Well my point was not about Bill Clinton's impeachment, it was whether he received appropriate punishment for lying in a sexual harassment lawsuit. In my opinion he did in that instance.
Regarding impeachment, I remember at the time thinking the same way you did, but over time, it was just a stupid path politically.
We have never removed a President from office in our nation's history, and doing it over not being truthful regarding a blowjob in a sexual harassment lawsuit does not rise to "high crimes and misdemeanors" in my book but I can see how some would disagree
His failure to be convicted on impeachment charges - and thus removed from office - is pretty much the definition of the rule of law being specifically *not* applied to the most powerful. Can't see any other way to frame it.
If he were just any lawyer out there, then disbarment and loss of license might be the right consequence. As president? There were literally no consequences, for a slam-dunk undeniable federal felony. Impossible to convincingly portray this as anything but a de facto exception to the law for high office holders.
Posted by: rhomboi
_____________
Well my point was not about Bill Clinton's impeachment, it was whether he received appropriate punishment for lying in a sexual harassment lawsuit. In my opinion he did in that instance.
Regarding impeachment, I remember at the time thinking the same way you did, but over time, it was just a stupid path politically.
We have never removed a President from office in our nation's history, and doing it over not being truthful regarding a blowjob in a sexual harassment lawsuit does not rise to "high crimes and misdemeanors" in my book but I can see how some would disagree
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (MWLby)
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (gmeXX)
578
So a Philly cop was shot by a known felon who stole a gun belonging to a different cop?
And he was running his mouth about ISIS?
And the latest clown running Philly already started ranting about gun control?
Awesome.
And he was running his mouth about ISIS?
And the latest clown running Philly already started ranting about gun control?
Awesome.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (326rv)
579
Let's import more!
An Islamic State militant carried out a public 'execution' of his mother because she asked him to leave the group, activists say.
An Islamic State militant carried out a public 'execution' of his mother because she asked him to leave the group, activists say.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (fWAjv)
580
I've never seen three flaming skulls. I'm scared but also strangely aroused.
Posted by: Percy Gryce at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (mAm+G)
581
Thing I can't get past is we wouldn't even be hearing about this if
Obama and Jarrett supported Hillary. It would be down the memory hole.
Instead it just keeps boiling away.
I still stand by my belief that Obama doesn't want Hillary to be his successor. A Republican would allow him and the Dems to shift the blame for any fallout of his policies, as well as keep him in paid television gigs criticizing President Trump or President Cruz and talking about how wonderful the US was under his enlightened rule.
Obama and Jarrett supported Hillary. It would be down the memory hole.
Instead it just keeps boiling away.
I still stand by my belief that Obama doesn't want Hillary to be his successor. A Republican would allow him and the Dems to shift the blame for any fallout of his policies, as well as keep him in paid television gigs criticizing President Trump or President Cruz and talking about how wonderful the US was under his enlightened rule.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (OiH3z)
582
I believe that the evidence that the FBI is compiling will be so compelling that, unless [Lynch] agrees to the charges, there will be a massive revolt inside the FBI, which she will not be able to survive as an attorney general. It will be like Watergate. It will be unbelievable.
This guy is smoking crack. Fast & Furious alone should have toppled the Obama administration, but the Dems learned that they can just block, stonewall, and ignore a story, and it just goes away, no matter how godawful and clearly illegal it is.
This guy is smoking crack. Fast & Furious alone should have toppled the Obama administration, but the Dems learned that they can just block, stonewall, and ignore a story, and it just goes away, no matter how godawful and clearly illegal it is.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (39g3+)
583
I'm pretty sure I remember Rush talking about the Clinton-Rice connection back in the day. I know it's not something I just made up.
Posted by: Hank at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (3rpaY)
584
Huma will just flee to a muslim country. Her family
is deep in the Muslim Brotherhood. As much as I'd like to see her do
time, prosecutors and judges would be murdered by MB operatives first.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (kXoT0)
Nah, she'd have to live the lifestyle of a woman in a Muslim country. She'll take her year or so of house arrest or probation and be damned happy for it.
is deep in the Muslim Brotherhood. As much as I'd like to see her do
time, prosecutors and judges would be murdered by MB operatives first.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (kXoT0)
Nah, she'd have to live the lifestyle of a woman in a Muslim country. She'll take her year or so of house arrest or probation and be damned happy for it.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (t2m1Y)
585
BTW, has anyone read about Bernie's wife and family funneling money out of Burlington College?
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j5zrntc
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 08, 2016 01:30 PM (n22zQ)
Oh myz, the Millenials will hate that, free collidge is sacred to them and if someone is stealing money from their sacred cow.
It would be delicious beyond words to see both The Bern and Hillz implode over scandal.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/j5zrntc
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 08, 2016 01:30 PM (n22zQ)
Oh myz, the Millenials will hate that, free collidge is sacred to them and if someone is stealing money from their sacred cow.
It would be delicious beyond words to see both The Bern and Hillz implode over scandal.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (kXoT0)
586
DRUG LORD 'EL CHAPO' CAPTURED...
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Now if we could only get Jonny Chimpo we could keep our patrol station.
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Now if we could only get Jonny Chimpo we could keep our patrol station.
Posted by: FARVA at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (MbrzC)
587
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:31 PM
True, but I laughed anyway. It's easier than putting on a clown suit and climbing a tall building with a rifle.
True, but I laughed anyway. It's easier than putting on a clown suit and climbing a tall building with a rifle.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (9EDu1)
588
How did she look in them? The torts, I mean.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (t2m1Y)
She wears tort torts?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:31 PM (cKwwS)
Whenever I see/hear the word "torts" I think "pop torts." Honestly, I don't even know what the word tort means, and frankly, I don't think there is any reason why I should need to know.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (t2m1Y)
She wears tort torts?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:31 PM (cKwwS)
Whenever I see/hear the word "torts" I think "pop torts." Honestly, I don't even know what the word tort means, and frankly, I don't think there is any reason why I should need to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (TOk1P)
589
Speaking of stolen guns.
Remember just before Christmas the Secret Service agent on the Presidential detail who had his car broken into in DC at agency HQ? Have they recovered his gun, badge, radio, and handcuffs yet?
Remember just before Christmas the Secret Service agent on the Presidential detail who had his car broken into in DC at agency HQ? Have they recovered his gun, badge, radio, and handcuffs yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (VnEUI)
Posted by: Aye Mi Trumpi! at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (iMzPV)
591
"There is simply a rogue gang that has all of the heavy guns, cowing the rest of the populace into compliance."
I think it's been that way for a very long time TBD, but we just never noticed it before.
I think it's been that way for a very long time TBD, but we just never noticed it before.
Posted by: despair at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (VrdxH)
592
We have never removed a President from office in our nation's history, and doing it over not being truthful regarding a blowjob in a sexual harassment lawsuit does not rise to "high crimes and misdemeanors" in my book but I can see how some would disagree
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Perhaps we should merely for Congress to assert itself over the Presidency.
I'm not sure it was dumb politically or not. I honestly don't think it mattered too much one way or the other.
Whether that was a high crime or misdemeanor is an open question, but it is one for Congress to decide.
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Perhaps we should merely for Congress to assert itself over the Presidency.
I'm not sure it was dumb politically or not. I honestly don't think it mattered too much one way or the other.
Whether that was a high crime or misdemeanor is an open question, but it is one for Congress to decide.
Posted by: SH at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (gmeXX)
593
Execute her.
Posted by: ChocoCheese at January 08, 2016 01:35 PM (OvUux)
594
Thing I can't get past is we wouldn't even be hearing about this if Obama and Jarrett supported Hillary. It would be down the memory hole. Instead it just keeps boiling away.
Ask a random Obama voter about hillary emails and see how much they've heard or know about it. Ask some random low info voter and see what they know.
We're getting info on this but just barely. Its being reported, just enough, for plausible deniability: we covered that. Old story. MoveOn.org.
Ask a random Obama voter about hillary emails and see how much they've heard or know about it. Ask some random low info voter and see what they know.
We're getting info on this but just barely. Its being reported, just enough, for plausible deniability: we covered that. Old story. MoveOn.org.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:35 PM (39g3+)
595
Nah, she'd have to live the lifestyle of a woman in a Muslim country. She'll take her year or so of house arrest or probation and be damned happy for it.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (t2m1Y)
No, she wouldn't. I give you Mrs. Arafat and Arafat's only known child, his daughter. I say known, because I do not think any of Arafat's Palestinian boyz ever got pregnant.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:33 PM (t2m1Y)
No, she wouldn't. I give you Mrs. Arafat and Arafat's only known child, his daughter. I say known, because I do not think any of Arafat's Palestinian boyz ever got pregnant.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:35 PM (kXoT0)
596
And the latest clown running Philly already started ranting about gun control?
Awesome.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (326rv)
He already made it a sanctuary city again so expect great days ahead for Philly
Awesome.
Posted by: Blue Hen at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (326rv)
He already made it a sanctuary city again so expect great days ahead for Philly
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 01:35 PM (fWAjv)
597
It is incumbent upon all law-abiding Americans to see Hillary brought to justice. For the good of the country.
http://tinyurl.com/lnrcx7a
http://tinyurl.com/lnrcx7a
Posted by: Aye Mi Trumpi! at January 08, 2016 01:35 PM (iMzPV)
598
IIRC, elections are still operated locally by counties and States.
The Electoral College doesn't really have to meet for the electors to select the next POTUS. Amazing that it really is not in the hands of the Federal gubmint.
The Electoral College doesn't really have to meet for the electors to select the next POTUS. Amazing that it really is not in the hands of the Federal gubmint.
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 08, 2016 01:36 PM (1ijHg)
599
When it comes to gun control, all Democrats are Teddy Ruxpins.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 08, 2016 01:36 PM (VnEUI)
600
Philly Mayor Kenney says despite all evidence
Islam / religion had nothing to do with this.
Guy was just a criminal.
These Dems are like actors who have memorized their lines and will not be dissuaded from them - logic and evidence be damned
Islam / religion had nothing to do with this.
Guy was just a criminal.
These Dems are like actors who have memorized their lines and will not be dissuaded from them - logic and evidence be damned
Posted by: McCool at January 08, 2016 01:37 PM (nCSwS)
601
.The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
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Nah someone else will come into run it, they'll do fundraising, do even less actual work, and it'll just serve as job's program and live off the interest slushfund org for Chelsea and her kids.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
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Nah someone else will come into run it, they'll do fundraising, do even less actual work, and it'll just serve as job's program and live off the interest slushfund org for Chelsea and her kids.
Posted by: FARVA at January 08, 2016 01:37 PM (MbrzC)
602
#ArrestHillary
Hillary has committed a felony. Citizen's arrests can be executed under felonies.
"Felonies
A person can arrest someone that they reasonably suspect of committing a felony, even if the felony didnt occur in the presence of the individual making the arrest. As long as a felony was actually committed and the individual making the arrest knew of the crime, a reasonable suspicion about the identity of the perpetrator will justify their arrest.
The felony must have actually occurred before an individual can make a citizens arrest. Even if a person reasonably believes that a felony has occurred, if the crime did not in fact happen, the person making the arrest could become civilly and criminally liable.
- See more at: http://tinyurl.com/lnrcx7a"
Hillary has committed a felony. Citizen's arrests can be executed under felonies.
"Felonies
A person can arrest someone that they reasonably suspect of committing a felony, even if the felony didnt occur in the presence of the individual making the arrest. As long as a felony was actually committed and the individual making the arrest knew of the crime, a reasonable suspicion about the identity of the perpetrator will justify their arrest.
The felony must have actually occurred before an individual can make a citizens arrest. Even if a person reasonably believes that a felony has occurred, if the crime did not in fact happen, the person making the arrest could become civilly and criminally liable.
- See more at: http://tinyurl.com/lnrcx7a"
Posted by: Aye Mi Trumpi! at January 08, 2016 01:38 PM (iMzPV)
603
I still stand by my belief that Obama doesn't want Hillary to be his successor. A Republican would allow him and the Dems to shift the blame for any fallout of his policies, as well as keep him in paid television gigs criticizing President Trump or President Cruz and talking about how wonderful the US was under his enlightened rule.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (OiH3z)
^^ This ^^ ExceptObama ValJar.
Posted by: Colorado Alex at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (OiH3z)
^^ This ^^ Except
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:38 PM (kXoT0)
604
We have never removed a President from office in our
nation's history, and doing it over not being truthful regarding a
blowjob in a sexual harassment lawsuit does not rise to "high crimes and
misdemeanors" in my book but I can see how some would disagree
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (MWLby)
I never thought the impeachment was really about the perjury. I always thought it was really about Charlie Trie and Johnny Chung (the fronts for Chinese money), the Indonesian gardener who donated $100,000, the Riadys giving him $1 million in cash to declare the Utah low-sulfur coal reserve unmineable, selling the Lincoln Bedroom, and all the other assorted big and small corruptions. But the perjury was a black and white crime and the House managers thought that one was so crystal clear the Senate couldn't possibly not remove Clinton from office. Boy, were they wrong.
nation's history, and doing it over not being truthful regarding a
blowjob in a sexual harassment lawsuit does not rise to "high crimes and
misdemeanors" in my book but I can see how some would disagree
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (MWLby)
I never thought the impeachment was really about the perjury. I always thought it was really about Charlie Trie and Johnny Chung (the fronts for Chinese money), the Indonesian gardener who donated $100,000, the Riadys giving him $1 million in cash to declare the Utah low-sulfur coal reserve unmineable, selling the Lincoln Bedroom, and all the other assorted big and small corruptions. But the perjury was a black and white crime and the House managers thought that one was so crystal clear the Senate couldn't possibly not remove Clinton from office. Boy, were they wrong.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:38 PM (t2m1Y)
605
Perhaps we should merely for Congress to assert itself over the Presidency.
I'm not sure it was dumb politically or not. I honestly don't think it mattered too much one way or the other.
Whether that was a high crime or misdemeanor is an open question, but it is one for Congress to decide.
Posted by: SH
Ulitmately, it was a massive failure as the impeachment failed.
It was dumb "politically" in that the American public opposed by wide margins, like 3 to 1 and the GOP actually lost ground in a midterm election that historically we should have done quite well. Clinton's approval ratings went through the roof and Republicans were on the defensive.
I'm not sure it was dumb politically or not. I honestly don't think it mattered too much one way or the other.
Whether that was a high crime or misdemeanor is an open question, but it is one for Congress to decide.
Posted by: SH
Ulitmately, it was a massive failure as the impeachment failed.
It was dumb "politically" in that the American public opposed by wide margins, like 3 to 1 and the GOP actually lost ground in a midterm election that historically we should have done quite well. Clinton's approval ratings went through the roof and Republicans were on the defensive.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (MWLby)
606
hilly Mayor Kenney says despite all evidence
Islam / religion had nothing to do with this.
Guy was just a criminal.
These Dems are like actors who have memorized their lines and will not be dissuaded from them - logic and evidence be damned
Posted by: McCool
And did i mention how clean the place was?
Islam / religion had nothing to do with this.
Guy was just a criminal.
These Dems are like actors who have memorized their lines and will not be dissuaded from them - logic and evidence be damned
Posted by: McCool
And did i mention how clean the place was?
Posted by: Hizzoner kenney of Philthadelphia at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (326rv)
607
Whenever I see/hear the word "torts" I think "pop torts." Honestly, I don't even know what the word tort means, and frankly, I don't think there is any reason why I should need to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (TOk1P)
IANAL, but "tort" is simply the legal term for a wrong done to one. Say the surgeon sews you up, leaving a sponge inside.
And abuse of tort law is one of the reasons medical insurance costs so much.
But I was riffing on an old, old pop tune, "She wears short shorts." Before your time, I guess.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (TOk1P)
IANAL, but "tort" is simply the legal term for a wrong done to one. Say the surgeon sews you up, leaving a sponge inside.
And abuse of tort law is one of the reasons medical insurance costs so much.
But I was riffing on an old, old pop tune, "She wears short shorts." Before your time, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (cKwwS)
608
*pops popcorn*
In a further escalation in tensions with Saudi Arabia, the Iranian government today banned its citizens from making the annual trip to Islam's holiest city, a journey required at least once in a lifetime for all Muslims financially and physically capable of doing so.
In a further escalation in tensions with Saudi Arabia, the Iranian government today banned its citizens from making the annual trip to Islam's holiest city, a journey required at least once in a lifetime for all Muslims financially and physically capable of doing so.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 08, 2016 01:40 PM (fWAjv)
609
State is out there saying there's no indication the paper was ever sent and there is no indication anything in it was classified. How that comports with take the classification off of it is a bit much but still.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (mf5HN)
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So we'll hear the usual defense. "Nothing happened. Calm down, everybody." (condescending, lazy eyes)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 08, 2016 01:01 PM (mf5HN)
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So we'll hear the usual defense. "Nothing happened. Calm down, everybody." (condescending, lazy eyes)
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:40 PM (pC96u)
610
IANAL, but "tort" is simply the legal term for a wrong done to one. Say the surgeon sews you up, leaving a sponge inside.
I-Anal? What will Apple think of next?
IANAL, but "tort" is simply the legal term for a wrong done to one. Say the surgeon sews you up, leaving a sponge inside.
I-Anal? What will Apple think of next?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:41 PM (39g3+)
611
580
I've never seen three flaming skulls. I'm scared but also strangely aroused.
Posted by: Percy Gryce at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (mAm+G)
Ace bought them in bulk for the discount.
I've never seen three flaming skulls. I'm scared but also strangely aroused.
Posted by: Percy Gryce at January 08, 2016 01:32 PM (mAm+G)
Ace bought them in bulk for the discount.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 08, 2016 01:41 PM (4ErVI)
612
I never thought the impeachment was really about the perjury. I always thought it was really about Charlie Trie and Johnny Chung (the fronts for Chinese money), the Indonesian gardener who donated $100,000, the Riadys giving him $1 million in cash to declare the Utah low-sulfur coal reserve unmineable, selling the Lincoln Bedroom, and all the other assorted big and small corruptions. But the perjury was a black and white crime and the House managers thought that one was so crystal clear the Senate couldn't possibly not remove Clinton from office. Boy, were they wrong.
Posted by: Caesar North
And if you had a smoking gun with the other things mentioned , that would absolutely be grounds for impeachment, and I think the American public would have been far more receptive to impeachment
but what he was ultimately impeached over was the equivalent of Al Capone going to Alcatraz over taxes
Posted by: Caesar North
And if you had a smoking gun with the other things mentioned , that would absolutely be grounds for impeachment, and I think the American public would have been far more receptive to impeachment
but what he was ultimately impeached over was the equivalent of Al Capone going to Alcatraz over taxes
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:41 PM (MWLby)
613
No, she wouldn't. I give you Mrs. Arafat and Arafat's only known child, his daughter. I say known, because I do not think any of Arafat's Palestinian boyz ever got pregnant.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:35 PM (kXoT0)
Suha Arafat lives in France, probably with a platoon of bodyguards.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:35 PM (kXoT0)
Suha Arafat lives in France, probably with a platoon of bodyguards.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:42 PM (cKwwS)
614
Gov Edwards was not yet a felon when Duke ran against him, but he was already a crook. The left seems to like their rogue "players", like Edwards and Clintons. Edwards was going to run again after he got out of the joint ... then was going to do some celebrity show with his sweet young thang new wife.
One of his good buddies that was head of the senate is still in prison, afaik. That one allegedly ran a degree mill scam while still in prison ... and his son lawyer son was also convicted ... the dad used to be mayor ... dynasties ... ugh
Too bad guys like Duke are all the resistance the right could muster, at the time at least ... then Jindal
One of his good buddies that was head of the senate is still in prison, afaik. That one allegedly ran a degree mill scam while still in prison ... and his son lawyer son was also convicted ... the dad used to be mayor ... dynasties ... ugh
Too bad guys like Duke are all the resistance the right could muster, at the time at least ... then Jindal
Posted by: Illiniwek at January 08, 2016 01:42 PM (5Gpe2)
615
The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
True dat. The money has reached critical mass. It will be self-sustaining after BJ reaches room temperature. It will actually increase without BJ and Hill siphoning off the cream to pay for all their machinations. All of the DNC desparately wants Chelz to step up to the plate, but, she doesn't like work and she has even less charisma looks than Hillary. I also think she's seen the whole mess from behind the curtains and is monumentally bored and disinterested. She can live the high life in Manhattan and travel the world as the Clinton Remnant.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
True dat. The money has reached critical mass. It will be self-sustaining after BJ reaches room temperature. It will actually increase without BJ and Hill siphoning off the cream to pay for all their machinations. All of the DNC desparately wants Chelz to step up to the plate, but, she doesn't like work and she has even less charisma looks than Hillary. I also think she's seen the whole mess from behind the curtains and is monumentally bored and disinterested. She can live the high life in Manhattan and travel the world as the Clinton Remnant.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:42 PM (kXoT0)
616
Whenever I see/hear the word "torts" I think "pop
torts." Honestly, I don't even know what the word tort means, and
frankly, I don't think there is any reason why I should need to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (TOk1P)
IANAL, but "tort" is simply the legal term for a wrong done to one. Say the surgeon sews you up, leaving a sponge inside.
And abuse of tort law is one of the reasons medical insurance costs so much.
But I was riffing on an old, old pop tune, "She wears short shorts." Before your time, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (cKwwS)
Before my time, but I am familiar with it.
torts." Honestly, I don't even know what the word tort means, and
frankly, I don't think there is any reason why I should need to know.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:34 PM (TOk1P)
IANAL, but "tort" is simply the legal term for a wrong done to one. Say the surgeon sews you up, leaving a sponge inside.
And abuse of tort law is one of the reasons medical insurance costs so much.
But I was riffing on an old, old pop tune, "She wears short shorts." Before your time, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (cKwwS)
Before my time, but I am familiar with it.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (TOk1P)
617
If Trump starts banging on pots and pans about "removing politics from the DOJ and restoring law and order", "reminding government officials that they are supposed to serve the people" and then explicitly promises to have a Trump DOJ prosecute "all the lawbreakers from Hillary Clinton on down", then Melania can call up Mooch and ask when a convenient time would be to come in and see what it would take to class the White House up a little bit.
Posted by: Furious George at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (3GAnN)
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This has been my fantasy, although it could work with Cruz, too.
Hillary: Those emails did not contain material that was marked classified.
Cruz: And therein lies the problem, because it was your legal responsibility to mark them. Thank you for publicly confessing to a federal felony; my AG's job will be that much easier.
Posted by: Furious George at January 08, 2016 01:09 PM (3GAnN)
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This has been my fantasy, although it could work with Cruz, too.
Hillary: Those emails did not contain material that was marked classified.
Cruz: And therein lies the problem, because it was your legal responsibility to mark them. Thank you for publicly confessing to a federal felony; my AG's job will be that much easier.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (pC96u)
618
Who is OJ?
Posted by: Millenial... at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (f7rv6)
Other Millenial: That black 'can't we just get along guy' right? I think he got in white bronco or something and went around starting riots after some white cops beat his as up on video...or something right?
Posted by: Millenial... at January 08, 2016 01:28 PM (f7rv6)
Other Millenial: That black 'can't we just get along guy' right? I think he got in white bronco or something and went around starting riots after some white cops beat his as up on video...or something right?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (MbrzC)
619
And if you had a smoking gun with the other things mentioned , that would absolutely be grounds for impeachment, and I think the American public would have been far more receptive to impeachment
but what he was ultimately impeached over was the equivalent of Al Capone going to Alcatraz over taxes
Posted by: Tobasco
And i still would have shitcanned it. But thanks for the speech.
but what he was ultimately impeached over was the equivalent of Al Capone going to Alcatraz over taxes
Posted by: Tobasco
And i still would have shitcanned it. But thanks for the speech.
Posted by: zombie Sen. Robert 'Sheets' Byrd (D- 5th plane of Hell) at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (326rv)
620
We will see if Hollywood is reflecting our society as it is.
As episode of "The Unit" where the super rich broad tell Tammy (hot strawberry blond) "some people think that the Super Rich are above the law. That's not true. There is no law for the super rich."
Or somethings along those lines....to lazy to look it up. But it was a line that always stuck with me.
As episode of "The Unit" where the super rich broad tell Tammy (hot strawberry blond) "some people think that the Super Rich are above the law. That's not true. There is no law for the super rich."
Or somethings along those lines....to lazy to look it up. But it was a line that always stuck with me.
Posted by: Paladin at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (7Aj1+)
621
Nah someone else will come into run it, they'll do fundraising, do even less actual work, and it'll just serve as job's program and live off the interest slushfund org for Chelsea and her kids.
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There are some very bad, very powerful people who gave huge amounts of money to the Clintons for political favors when she became prez. They'll be wanting their money back.......or else........
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There are some very bad, very powerful people who gave huge amounts of money to the Clintons for political favors when she became prez. They'll be wanting their money back.......or else........
Posted by: Soona at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (Fmupd)
622
The funny thing is, yes, her *repeated* felonies regarding security disqualify her and should result in massive prosecution...
But what about her *repeated* pay-for-play deals for foreign governments, companies and rich individuals while at State? We have enough evidence of those that any normal citizen who wasn't a massive Democrat donor would have been run through the wringer by now.
But what about her *repeated* pay-for-play deals for foreign governments, companies and rich individuals while at State? We have enough evidence of those that any normal citizen who wasn't a massive Democrat donor would have been run through the wringer by now.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 08, 2016 01:45 PM (bLnSU)
623
I-Anal? What will Apple think of next?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:41 PM (39g3+)
I thought ass-fucking came standard with Apple products?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:41 PM (39g3+)
I thought ass-fucking came standard with Apple products?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:45 PM (cKwwS)
624
Suha Arafat lives in France, probably with a platoon of bodyguards.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:42 PM (cKwwS)
Yes, she lives pretty well off the $9,000,000,000 that Arafat left her. That's 9 billion dollars he stole from Palestinian relief funds, all of which he controlled. By now, it's probably grown to 15 to 20 billion. The money he stole could've bought every Palestinian, man, woman, and child a decent home with land in some country.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:42 PM (cKwwS)
Yes, she lives pretty well off the $9,000,000,000 that Arafat left her. That's 9 billion dollars he stole from Palestinian relief funds, all of which he controlled. By now, it's probably grown to 15 to 20 billion. The money he stole could've bought every Palestinian, man, woman, and child a decent home with land in some country.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at January 08, 2016 01:46 PM (kXoT0)
625
Perhaps we should merely for Congress to assert itself over the Presidency.
I'm not sure it was dumb politically or not. I honestly don't think it mattered too much one way or the other.
Whether that was a high crime or misdemeanor is an open question, but it is one for Congress to decide.
Posted by: SH
Ulitmately, it was a massive failure as the impeachment failed.
It was dumb "politically" in that the American public opposed by
wide margins, like 3 to 1 and the GOP actually lost ground in a midterm
election that historically we should have done quite well. Clinton's
approval ratings went through the roof and Republicans were on the
defensive.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (MWLby)
It was dumb politically, because it was done by political dummies. Gope has been stepping on their own philandering d*cks since long before Obama entered the scene.
The thing became a farce when Larry Flint, of all people, showed the Republican clowns for who they are.
The fact that those idiots had no defense against "it's all about sex, and youse guys do it too" is not the same as saying it was the wrong thing to do.
I'm not sure it was dumb politically or not. I honestly don't think it mattered too much one way or the other.
Whether that was a high crime or misdemeanor is an open question, but it is one for Congress to decide.
Posted by: SH
Ulitmately, it was a massive failure as the impeachment failed.
It was dumb "politically" in that the American public opposed by
wide margins, like 3 to 1 and the GOP actually lost ground in a midterm
election that historically we should have done quite well. Clinton's
approval ratings went through the roof and Republicans were on the
defensive.
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (MWLby)
It was dumb politically, because it was done by political dummies. Gope has been stepping on their own philandering d*cks since long before Obama entered the scene.
The thing became a farce when Larry Flint, of all people, showed the Republican clowns for who they are.
The fact that those idiots had no defense against "it's all about sex, and youse guys do it too" is not the same as saying it was the wrong thing to do.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 08, 2016 01:46 PM (TOk1P)
626
But what about her *repeated* pay-for-play deals for foreign governments, companies and rich individuals while at State?
Those are really tough to prove unless you can find documentation confirming or promising something. Otherwise, just could be coincidence!
Those are really tough to prove unless you can find documentation confirming or promising something. Otherwise, just could be coincidence!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:46 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Aye Mi Trumpi! at January 08, 2016 01:46 PM (iMzPV)
628
The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
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It only depends on whether a Clinton is in or headed for office. The Clintons don't have to be likable to get that money; they only have to be powerful. If Hillary can't make it to the White House, Chelsea will, I guarantee, find a reason (she's probably already working on it) to challenge Kirsten Gillibrand in 2018.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
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It only depends on whether a Clinton is in or headed for office. The Clintons don't have to be likable to get that money; they only have to be powerful. If Hillary can't make it to the White House, Chelsea will, I guarantee, find a reason (she's probably already working on it) to challenge Kirsten Gillibrand in 2018.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:46 PM (pC96u)
629
I thought ass-fucking came standard with Apple products?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:45 PM (cKwwS)
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It does, but the lube is extra.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:45 PM (cKwwS)
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It does, but the lube is extra.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:48 PM (MbrzC)
630
There are some very bad, very powerful people who gave huge amounts of money to the Clintons for political favors when she became prez. They'll be wanting their money back.......or else........
Posted by: Soona at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (Fmupd)
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It's always possible they back Chelsea for US Senator from New York. Kirsten Gillibrand with her puppy treats and chocolate coins is hardly a power broker.
Posted by: Soona at January 08, 2016 01:43 PM (Fmupd)
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It's always possible they back Chelsea for US Senator from New York. Kirsten Gillibrand with her puppy treats and chocolate coins is hardly a power broker.
Posted by: iforgot at January 08, 2016 01:49 PM (pC96u)
Posted by: Brown Line at January 08, 2016 01:49 PM (zcbZo)
632
Question for Levin, if any one wants to sit on hold: If an Obama DoJ flubs a prosecution or pardons an individual -- does Double Jeopardy protection or pardon protect a President from impeachment?
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:51 PM (fBkaR)
633
newd: Phili
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 01:51 PM (MbrzC)
634
The fact that those idiots had no defense against "it's all about sex, and youse guys do it too" is not the same as saying it was the wrong thing to do.
Posted by: BurtTC
If you know you're going to fuck something up, it's best to just not do it
Posted by: BurtTC
If you know you're going to fuck something up, it's best to just not do it
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 01:52 PM (MWLby)
635
601
.The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt
nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and
Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
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Nah someone else will come into run it, they'll do fundraising, do
even less actual work, and it'll just serve as job's program and live
off the interest slushfund org for Chelsea and her kids.
Posted by: FARVA at January 08, 2016 01:37 PM (MbrzC)
The Clinton Inc. shakedown empire requires that there be a Clinton in high office with favors to grant and punishments to mete out, or threatening to be in high office, at all times. Chelsea is the future. As an aside, I can't wait for the 2036 Presidential contest between her and George P. Bush!!
.The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Foundation dies when Bill takes a dirt
nap. It's over when he dies because Hillary is 100% unlikable and
Chelsea has the personality and charisma of a moldy potato.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 08, 2016 01:29 PM (iONHu)
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Nah someone else will come into run it, they'll do fundraising, do
even less actual work, and it'll just serve as job's program and live
off the interest slushfund org for Chelsea and her kids.
Posted by: FARVA at January 08, 2016 01:37 PM (MbrzC)
The Clinton Inc. shakedown empire requires that there be a Clinton in high office with favors to grant and punishments to mete out, or threatening to be in high office, at all times. Chelsea is the future. As an aside, I can't wait for the 2036 Presidential contest between her and George P. Bush!!
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 01:53 PM (t2m1Y)
636
But what about her *repeated* pay-for-play deals for foreign governments, companies and rich individuals while at State?
Those are really tough to prove unless you can find documentation confirming or promising something. Otherwise, just could be coincidence!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January
An interesting question for Bob our NSA minder, Bob?
Those are really tough to prove unless you can find documentation confirming or promising something. Otherwise, just could be coincidence!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January
An interesting question for Bob our NSA minder, Bob?
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:53 PM (fBkaR)
637
These are in the undeleted emails -- what the hell is in the deleted emails?
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:54 PM (fBkaR)
638
"It was dumb politically, because it was done by political dummies. Gope has been stepping on their own philandering d*cks since long before Obama entered the scene."
Too true. If the GOPe had been smart, they would have told the Democrats to deal with it. The Democrats would have had either to censure their own guy, or whitewash him. In either case, they would be stuck with the issue. Instead, the GOPe turned the election issue from Bill Clinton's perjury, to their reaction to it.
The GOPe could screw up a wet dream.
Too true. If the GOPe had been smart, they would have told the Democrats to deal with it. The Democrats would have had either to censure their own guy, or whitewash him. In either case, they would be stuck with the issue. Instead, the GOPe turned the election issue from Bill Clinton's perjury, to their reaction to it.
The GOPe could screw up a wet dream.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 08, 2016 01:56 PM (zcbZo)
639
Satan's going to have to open a bigger wing of Hell for these people.
Posted by: Feh at January 08, 2016 01:57 PM (whlmq)
640
But I was riffing on an old, old pop tune, "She wears short shorts." Before your time, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (cKwwS)
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Nair commecial.
Burt can get off both our lawns.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 08, 2016 01:39 PM (cKwwS)
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Nair commecial.
Burt can get off both our lawns.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:57 PM (8XRCm)
641
These are in the undeleted emails -- what the hell is in the deleted emails?
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:54 PM (fBkaR)
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Probably something along the lines of Hillary actually ordering the assault on Beghazi.
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:54 PM (fBkaR)
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Probably something along the lines of Hillary actually ordering the assault on Beghazi.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:58 PM (8XRCm)
642
OK, she broke the law and should go to jail, no questions asked but just one simple statement.
The AG is an Obama puppet and that puppet will not press charges unless Obama gives the green light.
The AG is an Obama puppet and that puppet will not press charges unless Obama gives the green light.
Posted by: Drider at January 08, 2016 01:58 PM (6Xbsz)
643
If the GOPe had been smart, they would have told the Democrats to deal with it. The Democrats would have had either to censure their own guy, or whitewash him. In either case, they would be stuck with the issue. Instead, the GOPe turned the election issue from Bill Clinton's perjury, to their reaction to it.
The GOPe could screw up a wet dream.
Posted by: Brown Line
Yep, would have been much smarter to not have interferred while your enemy was destroying himself
Impeachment was throwing Bill a life preserver
The GOPe could screw up a wet dream.
Posted by: Brown Line
Yep, would have been much smarter to not have interferred while your enemy was destroying himself
Impeachment was throwing Bill a life preserver
Posted by: Tobasco at January 08, 2016 02:02 PM (MWLby)
644
Those are really tough to prove unless you can find documentation confirming or promising something. Otherwise, just could be coincidence!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:46 PM (39g3+)
That's why they put the "I" in "FBI."
Too bad they seem to have taken it out.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 08, 2016 01:46 PM (39g3+)
That's why they put the "I" in "FBI."
Too bad they seem to have taken it out.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at January 08, 2016 02:03 PM (bLnSU)
645
641
These are in the undeleted emails -- what the hell is in the deleted emails?
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:54 PM (fBkaR)
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Probably something along the lines of Hillary actually ordering the assault on Beghazi.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:58 PM (8XRCm)
I think it's straight up smoking gun pay for play. Keeping that secret is the reason for all the hassle of dragging this out and stonewalling, instead of just saying it was a mistake and releasing the emails. They are banking on her getting elected and spiking the whole thing.
These are in the undeleted emails -- what the hell is in the deleted emails?
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:54 PM (fBkaR)
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Probably something along the lines of Hillary actually ordering the assault on Beghazi.
Posted by: fixerupper at January 08, 2016 01:58 PM (8XRCm)
I think it's straight up smoking gun pay for play. Keeping that secret is the reason for all the hassle of dragging this out and stonewalling, instead of just saying it was a mistake and releasing the emails. They are banking on her getting elected and spiking the whole thing.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 08, 2016 02:10 PM (t2m1Y)
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2. There is no longer any rule of law in the United States of America,
and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there
is then no longer any United States of America, either.
That is not exactly true. There is still law, it is just that it is applied only against those who oppose the ruling class, aka Democrats; e.g. Dinesh D'Sousa; IRS vendetta against the Tea Party etc.
This is the classic definition of Tyranny.
and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there
is then no longer any United States of America, either.
That is not exactly true. There is still law, it is just that it is applied only against those who oppose the ruling class, aka Democrats; e.g. Dinesh D'Sousa; IRS vendetta against the Tea Party etc.
This is the classic definition of Tyranny.
Posted by: LGoPs at January 08, 2016 02:24 PM (FzE3e)
647
Wasn't David Patreus drummed out of public service FOREVER for doing SO MUCH LESS than this?
Weird.
Weird.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 08, 2016 02:35 PM (xeeHA)
648
Also.
I think this is the kind of thing we can't allow. As a people.
Like. If they don't take her down, they need some disobedience.
Old school.
I think this is the kind of thing we can't allow. As a people.
Like. If they don't take her down, they need some disobedience.
Old school.
Posted by: Moron Pundit at January 08, 2016 02:36 PM (xeeHA)
649
The FBI has Hillary's server. Recovered e-mails can easily connect the dots for a pay-for-play Clinton Cash indictment. There's already enough in the public domain to sketch out an indictment. There are over 1,000 donors who's identities have yet to be revealed which were run through a Canadian affiliate of the Mother Ship Foundation.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 08, 2016 02:44 PM (r1fLd)
650
I'm still SICK & TIRED of hearing about her E-mails. They're just not that important so let's go back to talking about the only thing that is important : the 1%
And my friend Mary in Brattleboro VT agrees with me.
And my friend Mary in Brattleboro VT agrees with me.
Posted by: Bernie Sanders at January 08, 2016 02:52 PM (oA2jF)
651
Probably the deleted emails are like this:
To: hcancles @secret server.
From: cstevens@ Benghaziconsulate
Subject: Urgent. Super urgent. Need help.
9/11/12. I need more security. NOW. Barbarians at the gates. Call Marines in Tripoli with the plane you would not let me have to evacuate us all.
~C
Fwd:hummer.cancles secret server
From: H
Who the hell is this guy? Where do I delete his email? Alt/D?When are you going to cut my toenails?
To: hcancles @secret server.
From: cstevens@ Benghaziconsulate
Subject: Urgent. Super urgent. Need help.
9/11/12. I need more security. NOW. Barbarians at the gates. Call Marines in Tripoli with the plane you would not let me have to evacuate us all.
~C
Fwd:hummer.cancles secret server
From: H
Who the hell is this guy? Where do I delete his email? Alt/D?When are you going to cut my toenails?
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at January 08, 2016 02:54 PM (7lqMl)
652
"No rule of law" eventually cuts both ways. "Eventually" seems to be getting closer now.
Posted by: melanerpes at January 08, 2016 03:03 PM (uN8EQ)
653
Leave Hillary alone!
Posted by: Shemp, Anderson, and Lemon at January 08, 2016 03:27 PM (NjX7M)
654
637 These are in the undeleted emails -- what the hell is in the deleted emails?
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:54 PM (fBkaR)
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You will never know.
Posted by: Jean at January 08, 2016 01:54 PM (fBkaR)
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You will never know.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 08, 2016 03:51 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: huh? at January 08, 2016 04:43 PM (k8tEg)
656
This:
34
Nonissue. Hillary will simply say that she had the authority as
Secretary of State to make a judgment on the immediacy of the need for
the information versus the need to protect it. She'll say it was her
call, and she made the call.
Posted by: Wilfred at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (01glF)
She'll use the defense that she had the authority as Sec State to deem it declasssified- no issue! The media will be peddling this before the day is over.Voila! Non-story!
34
Nonissue. Hillary will simply say that she had the authority as
Secretary of State to make a judgment on the immediacy of the need for
the information versus the need to protect it. She'll say it was her
call, and she made the call.
Posted by: Wilfred at January 08, 2016 12:07 PM (01glF)
She'll use the defense that she had the authority as Sec State to deem it declasssified- no issue! The media will be peddling this before the day is over.Voila! Non-story!
Posted by: Wysiwyg Mtwzzyzx at January 08, 2016 04:54 PM (98Feg)
657
2. There is no longer any rule of law in the United States of America,
and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there
is then no longer any United States of America, either.
Ding Ding Ding! Congrats, Ace! For getting the right answer, you've just won... your very own oligarchy! (Actually, it's not yours, you just live in it.)
and, the United States being conceived as a place of laws not men, there
is then no longer any United States of America, either.
Ding Ding Ding! Congrats, Ace! For getting the right answer, you've just won... your very own oligarchy! (Actually, it's not yours, you just live in it.)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at January 08, 2016 05:24 PM (S2VsH)
658
And not a fucking thing is going to happen to her.
Posted by: Andrew at January 08, 2016 07:52 PM (zcuxU)
659
A 21st-century version of "it depends on what your definition of the word is is"...classic Clintonian parsing. Which staffer / henchwoman will take the fall for sending this, because - as the Hillary camp said - Hillary Clinton never ordered anyone to blah blah blah. Someone else did. That will be the semantic dodge that the media will accept breathlessly, breathly.
Posted by: tomaig at January 08, 2016 09:54 PM (wuN7I)
660
Need to quit saying nothing will come of this. Whether or not you think it, admitting defeat at the starting line is just stupid.
Posted by: Noways Tard at January 08, 2016 10:01 PM (g9d8D)
661
Three flaming skulls = Hot Boner
Posted by: Noways Tard - Hillary's Southern Voice Sidekick at January 08, 2016 10:05 PM (g9d8D)
662
Wait a minute!!!
I came back and read this again, and it sounds like we're getting ourselves overworked over something that is may be NOTHING. Which totally sucks.
The thing is, I would think that talking points are generally NOT classified. I could EASILY see that State might be in the habit of using secure means of transmission whether stuff is classified or not, just to avoid prying eyes. So she could EASILY just be saying "Look, it's not classified, so just scan the damn thing and send it in a way that won't attract attention." "No identifying heading" can also mean no fancy State Department letterhead, can't it? When I used to handle classified, I don't think we referred to the classification markings as an "identifying heading".
Anyway, my point is that unless we know that she's actually talking about classified material here, and classification markings, the "smoking gun" here is a BB gun, right?
I came back and read this again, and it sounds like we're getting ourselves overworked over something that is may be NOTHING. Which totally sucks.
The thing is, I would think that talking points are generally NOT classified. I could EASILY see that State might be in the habit of using secure means of transmission whether stuff is classified or not, just to avoid prying eyes. So she could EASILY just be saying "Look, it's not classified, so just scan the damn thing and send it in a way that won't attract attention." "No identifying heading" can also mean no fancy State Department letterhead, can't it? When I used to handle classified, I don't think we referred to the classification markings as an "identifying heading".
Anyway, my point is that unless we know that she's actually talking about classified material here, and classification markings, the "smoking gun" here is a BB gun, right?
Posted by: Optimizer at January 08, 2016 10:39 PM (/q6+P)
663
Will the Energizer Bunny be doing ads for Hillery?
Posted by: torabora at January 09, 2016 01:41 AM (jtVYk)
664
Executive order issued late on a Friday: The President may run for a third term. "I taught constitutional law, I know a little about this," His Majesty said when asked if his order violates the 22nd Amendment.
Posted by: prognosticator at January 09, 2016 10:14 AM (mHBWM)
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