Two Outlets In One: CNN Runs Editorial Calling Oregon Park Takeover "Terrorism," But Has Previously Run Positive Editorials on Occupy Wall Street

Gee, I wonder what could account for CNN's wildly-inconsistent editorial views.

The protest is spurred by wildly-inappropriate sentencing by the government -- hey, isn't the left always screaming about that, when it comes to their pet causes and members of their coalition?

PS: "Two Outlets in One," or something like that, is a James Taranto daily item. (Or nearly daily.)

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1 It's like they're trolling.

Posted by: m at January 04, 2016 03:30 PM (d4uu4)

2 It was the rape tents that made OWS a responsible example of civil protest. Those Oregon terrorists have no rape tents.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2016 03:31 PM (8ZskC)

3 Good point, Cicero.

Posted by: m at January 04, 2016 03:31 PM (d4uu4)

4 Can you say "False Flag?"

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 03:32 PM (Ltj2h)

5 "The protest is spurred by wildly-inappropriate sentencing by the government"

Sentencing? They were charged with terrorism. Terrorism!

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (P5mpr)

6 Occupy and BLM and all the SJW college kids: not terrorists.

Funny that.

Posted by: blaster at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (2Ocf1)

7 The same reason Emperor Urkle X will not disarm criminals while jerking off to the thought of disarming YOU....

the criminals work for the left dear man.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (g8Hfr)

8 I knew this was coming, because some idiot friend said it on facebook. 'if you don't think this is terrorism there is something wrong with you'.

Next day, I heard it in the MSM.

These things float around in internet liberal land for a day or two and then the media picks them up. They aren't consistent or logical (Jesus was a Palestinian you guys!!), but then we already knew that.

Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (lIU4e)

9 I love how this Juliette Kayette little girlie instructs the feds on "What To Do." Does a degree in feminist studies really give you that kind of tactical experience?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (8ZskC)

10
P.P.S: "Occupy Wall St." *was* just a phase.

Posted by: dan-O at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (ByqK7)

11 Weird news item.

Interesting articles from Oathkeepers and Sipsey Street Irregulars.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (0NdlF)

12 The people who are taking over the building should shout Allahu Akbar every once in a while.

Then no one would be able to determine if it were terrorism at all.

Posted by: blaster at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (2Ocf1)

13 CNN's obvious idiocy aside, and the hypocritical nature of the Propaganda Press generally, there is one aspect of this Oregon event that bugs me. Taking up arms against the government is serious stuff, and should be reserved for big deal events.

This Oregon protest (which the victims of government abuse themselves have condemned) should be very public civil disobedience on a protest level, like a court sit-in or an occupation of the prosecutors office, and not a gun-wielding occupation of a remote building.

Posted by: MTF at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (TxJGV)

14 The DOJ bails out on prosecution when two NBPP members are outside a polling place threatening voters, but these guys are charged with terrorism for setting some kind of control fire in the boonies.

The sentencing is just the latest in a long line of injustices here.

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 04, 2016 03:35 PM (P5mpr)

15 If you read sources like Sipsey Street, you find out that the occupiers are not supported by anyone. The family of the people going to jail have asked them to stop "helping!"

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 03:35 PM (Ltj2h)

16 Oathkeeper article here:

https://www.oathkeepers.org/the-hammond-family-does/

Definitely weird why there and how. This is why people go conspiracy theorist ... you start seeing patterns and extrapolate ...

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 04, 2016 03:36 PM (0NdlF)

17 The people who are taking over the building should shout Allahu Akbar every once in a while.

Then no one would be able to determine if it were terrorism at all.



BRILLIANT.

It would confuse the hell out of the "elites."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 04, 2016 03:36 PM (8ZskC)

18 This Oregon protest (which the victims of government abuse themselves have condemned) should be very public civil disobedience on a protest level, like a court sit-in or an occupation of the prosecutors office, and not a gun-wielding occupation of a remote building.

At least it was a remote, and IIRC unoccupied building. But yeah, it escalated quickly.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 04, 2016 03:37 PM (zgHLA)

19 Were there any hostages taken?

Has anybody died?

That's what could make it terrorism.

Pathetic CNN scum. Why are we still "united" with all these worthless fucks???

Posted by: Blano at January 04, 2016 03:37 PM (C3E0x)

20 If you read sources like Sipsey Street, you find out that the occupiers are not supported by anyone. The family of the people going to jail have asked them to stop "helping!"

One guy involved seems to be a federal provocateur.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 04, 2016 03:37 PM (0NdlF)

21 Pathetic CNN scum. Why are we still "united" with all these worthless fucks???


#BlackLivesMatter

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 04, 2016 03:38 PM (0NdlF)

22 The sentencing wasn't inappropriate, they were hit with the mandatory minimum, which is exactly what the parties pled to. The judge took a flier on ignoring minimum sentencing guidelines based on his own criteria. While I agree that 5 years is waaaay too much under the circumstances, it was within the law as it exists on the books.

Posted by: bskb at January 04, 2016 03:38 PM (WLvMF)

23 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:38 PM (kff5f)

24 Communist News Network's gotta commie...

Posted by: Mark in Sandy UT at January 04, 2016 03:38 PM (goMaG)

25 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:38 PM (kff5f)

26 Eh... the right loves cops,uinless the cops show up at Bundy ranch or Oregon. Which happen to be the same cops that 'will just be doing their jobs' after Obama eliminates gun ownership.

The left hates cops...unless the cops show up and arrest 'right wing extremists', who are 'civil rights' protesters...whom the left normally love.

'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked. 'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat. 'We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.

Posted by: Disinterested at January 04, 2016 03:39 PM (KJZeR)

27 Could we get them to takeover Congress? They, unlike Congress, seem to have some balls.

Posted by: Puddin Head at January 04, 2016 03:39 PM (oDCMR)

28
Moneer Elfwick
Any minute now, this place is going to go nuclear. Oregon will be torn apart. #OregonUnderAttack #Pray4Oregon

https://goo.gl/3m9bQA

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 04, 2016 03:39 PM (iQIUe)

29
Face it, Oregon building takeover is terrorism
By Juliette Kayyem, CNN National Security Analyst



Pretty sure that used to be a guy. Like 80/20 sure.

[pic] http://tinyurl.com/zuc6g6d

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:40 PM (kdS6q)

30 It's all fun and games until the guy who defecates on law enforcement vehicles shows up with a heavy bowel.

Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2016 03:40 PM (UzPAd)

31 The sentencing wasn't inappropriate, they were hit with the mandatory minimum, which is exactly what the parties pled to. The judge took a flier on ignoring minimum sentencing guidelines based on his own criteria. While I agree that 5 years is waaaay too much under the circumstances, it was within the law as it exists on the books.

It sounds so nice and clinical that way. Hey, you can't be mad at a punishment that "exists on the books," right?

Okay, now go back and edit it:

The sentencing wasn't inappropriate for someone saving their own property when the government could or would not, they were hit with the mandatory minimum for saving their own property when the government could or would not, which is exactly what the parties pled to because the federal government has deeper pockets than they do. The judge took a flier on ignoring minimum sentencing guidelines for saving one's own property when the government could or would not based on his own criteria. While I agree that 5 years is waaaay too much under the circumstances for saving one's own property when the government could or would not, it was within the law as it exists on the books.

That doesn't sound quite so nice and clinical anymore, does it?

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:41 PM (kff5f)

32 Two Outlets One Cup?

Posted by: that guy who's seen too many horrible things on the Internet at January 04, 2016 03:41 PM (2WoCi)

33 Happy New Year AllenG! Haven't seen you around for a while.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 04, 2016 03:41 PM (0NdlF)

34 20 Just one?

I bet the FBI, DHS, BATFE, DOJ, and even the NSA have their own "guys" in the building. The agent provocateurs outnumber the protesters.

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 03:41 PM (Ltj2h)

35 Happy New Year AllenG! Haven't seen you around for a while.

Working at work. It sucks, but somebody's gotta do it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:42 PM (kff5f)

36 "welcome back to CNN and we bring you a live update on the Terrorist standoff in Oregon."

"This is Ted hairpiece in Bumphole County Oregon at the closed wildlife refuge visitor center where fanatical terrorists of the Rancher Front have seized this strategic installation."

"Ted, how tense is the situation?"

'Very tense, they have taken the soft-serve ice cream machine hostage and are demanding the federal government pardon two of the ranchers."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:43 PM (hLRSq)

37
[pic] http://tinyurl.com/zuc6g6d
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:40 PM (kdS6q)

DO NOT ENHANCE!

Posted by: TV Crime Procedural Detective hovering over computer techie at January 04, 2016 03:43 PM (P5mpr)

38 I seem to recall our president lecturing us that we needed to tolerate inconveniences - like occupied bridges that won't even let ambulances pass - in order to effect change.

So, you know, tolerate *this* occupation, bitchezzzzz!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:43 PM (NOIQH)

39 Kinda like Certs used to be.

Posted by: Killerdog at January 04, 2016 03:45 PM (HjFxw)

40 So, #OccupyBrunch is OK, but not this?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:45 PM (NOIQH)

41 AoS - smart military blog
CNN - aviationcentric 24/7 nuisance news

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 04, 2016 03:45 PM (fbovC)

42 Can you say "False Flag?"

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No, not what this is.

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 04, 2016 03:45 PM (3ZtZW)

43 Eric Holder, former Attorney general o the nation under Obama for six year, won fame, accolades and a beloved reputation for doing what?

What?

Oh, that's right, for taking over and "occupying" a government building.

But you see, Eric Holder, Attorney general of the United States, was a communist and racist revolutionary, so he is forgiven. More than forgiven -- his takeover was an act of heroism!!!!!

Posted by: zombie at January 04, 2016 03:45 PM (jBuUi)

44 And Occupy WI State House was OK, but not this???

Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:46 PM (NOIQH)

45 *looks at map of federally owned land*

I don't know why folks out there are so pissy.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:47 PM (fWAjv)

46 Aaaaalmost on-topic, today's XKCD is good.

www.xkcd.com

Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 04, 2016 03:47 PM (zgHLA)

47 I knew this was coming, because some idiot friend said it on facebook. 'if you don't think this is terrorism there is something wrong with you'.

====

People are going to get killed this time. And that will be kicking a hornet's nest for people who scream No More Wacos [even though Waco had another Waco, but just nevermind]

Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 04, 2016 03:47 PM (3ZtZW)

48 Maybe if we crapped on a couple of police cars, the media would like us better?

Posted by: the protesters in Oregon at January 04, 2016 03:48 PM (H9MG5)

49 I wonder if these terrorists will leave the govt offices trashed or cleaner than they found them.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2016 03:48 PM (XtAzU)

50 federally owned land

AtC? Can I have some of the eyeball heroin? Please?

The fact that's a phrase in common usage is so indicative of the problems we, as a society, face.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:48 PM (kff5f)

51 Commie News Network?

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2016 03:48 PM (C1Suc)

52 Every SJW student group in the nation makes it a bimonthly ritual to take over and "occupy" various administration buildings of campus.

It has happened hundreds -- probably thousands -- of times since the 1960s.

Terrosi-- oops!

I mean, Right on, comrades!

Posted by: zombie at January 04, 2016 03:48 PM (jBuUi)

53 Well hell!

I finally have a full proof plan to win power ball this week and live the rest of my life in the manor that i deem appropriate for me. So what happens?

After all this time, you people are finally ready to go to the guns and get on with it.

That's just great! Now what am I supposed to do? Y'all couldn't get on with it a week ago, or a month or a year ago! Oh hell no! You have to go now!

This is just great. I am pissed. This is just typical of my luck.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 04, 2016 03:48 PM (X+nFp)

54 >>*looks at map of federally owned land*


I don't know why folks out there are so pissy.


Uh, add in state owned lands and Indian reservations and you'll see who owns the majority of several western states.


Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:49 PM (NOIQH)

55 "Ted, is there anything further on the negotiations?"

"I have been informed that the Feds have agreed to send in four cases of Budweiser and five pounds of peanuts, but have said no Miller Lite. In exchange the visitor center audio-visual loop will be free to go."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:49 PM (hLRSq)

56 In before the Scorpion!

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 04, 2016 03:50 PM (evdj2)

57 >>That's just great! Now what am I supposed to do? Y'all couldn't get on
with it a week ago, or a month or a year ago! Oh hell no! You have to go
now!

Dude, we've been talking about an island republic for Morons and 'ettes....So buy an island.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:50 PM (NOIQH)

58 Wait, so they can use the word "terrorism" now? I thought that was banned per style guide.

Remember when all those people chained themselves to the Wisconsin state legislature and slept there stinking up the joint? Nothing but praise from the left. Every time students take over a building on a state institution: heroes.

Now these goofballs do it and they're terrorists? Got it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:50 PM (39g3+)

59 Ahem:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211350/ Attorney-General-Eric-Holder-armed-took-protest-Columbia-occupied-school-office-FIVE-days.html

Attorney General Eric Holder was 'armed' when he took part in protest at Columbia and occupied an military office for five days.

As a college student, Eric Holder participated in a protest where dozens took over an "empty office space" (i.e. building owned by the US Army) in hopes of turning it into a black student lounge.

Unearthed archives claim that the protestors were 'armed' during the raid.

----

Throw that in their faces.

Posted by: zombie at January 04, 2016 03:51 PM (jBuUi)

60 link in sig to a great run down of the miscarriage of justice that caused all of this.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 03:51 PM (LzzEz)

61
Attorney General Eric Holder was 'armed' when he took part in protest at Columbia and occupied an military office for five days.

As a college student, Eric Holder participated in a protest where dozens took over an "empty office space" (i.e. building owned by the US Army) in hopes of turning it into a black student lounge.


Wow that there is Attorney general material!

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 03:52 PM (/dSsq)

62 >>*looks at map of federally owned land*


I don't know why folks out there are so pissy.


Uh, add in state owned lands and Indian reservations and you'll see who owns the majority of several western states.


Posted by: Lizzy


I think that was sarcasm.

Interactive map:
naturalresources.house.gov/federalfootprint/

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 04, 2016 03:52 PM (9YDUz)

63 So I went to goggle the Wild Life Refuge Headquarters building and it looks like a nice modern stone building with lots of glass; a nice visitor's center for the Refuge.

And I thought to myself, it would be easy to jimmy the door, but that would be a crime, breaking and entering, which is different from going into an open office and refusing to leave (sit in protest).

So I said to myself, what if they are only out in the parking lot, and not in the building, and they have registered at the campground, and no crime has been committed? They're just trolling the news media.

Has anyone actually gone there and looked? One report said they protestors had the road blocked; moose out front should have told you, park's closed.

So I'm thinking American Indian Movement?

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 03:52 PM (6sTpM)

64 The fact that's a phrase in common usage is so indicative of the problems we, as a society, face.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:48 PM (kff5f)

Cheer up! It's not thaaaaat much.


http://tinyurl.com/n7gjksy


Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:52 PM (fWAjv)

65 I keep news off these days. I don't want to hear the BS. My news sources are WSJ ( no editorials or I'll cancel) Breaking News App, Boston Herald App & Ace.

I have radio on & am now listening to Howie Carr, New England host.

Posted by: Carol at January 04, 2016 03:53 PM (sj3Ax)

66 I bet the FBI, DHS, BATFE, DOJ, and even the NSA have their own "guys" in the building. The agent provocateurs outnumber the protesters.


It's like a Klan Leadership meeting then.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 04, 2016 03:53 PM (evdj2)

67 The government needs to be cut down in size, like 90%

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2016 03:53 PM (C1Suc)

68 I think you mean Federally Administered Land.

Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 03:53 PM (HLcYU)

69 Patterico has a pretty good roundup of links to the rulings, lawsuits etc. involved in this whole affair:

http://patterico.com/2016/01/03/what-are-the-bundys-protesting/

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 04, 2016 03:54 PM (gyKtp)

70 And Occupy WI State House was OK, but not this???
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:46 PM (NOIQH)


that's what I was thinking. Except these people aren't occupying anything so important and they have a legit grievance.

but this is going to be a mess when it's all done. I pray for a non-Waco ending.

Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2016 03:54 PM (lIU4e)

71 #OccupySnackbar

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:54 PM (hLRSq)

72 The Conservative Treehouse blog ( link in nic) has covered the story.

Posted by: Chillin the most at January 04, 2016 03:55 PM (BI43k)

73 So I'm thinking American Indian Movement?

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt


Me too.

The AIM occupied freakin' ALCATRAZ ISLAND, which at the time was a FEDERAL PRISON on FEDERAL LAND, and stayed there for OVER A YEAR, and yet they are considered HEROES. Students across the nation study the incident with the "occupiers were heroic" narrative (it's in a lot of modern high school history curricula.)

Posted by: zombie at January 04, 2016 03:55 PM (jBuUi)

74 #OccupyGiftshop

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:55 PM (hLRSq)

75 "After all this time, you people are finally ready to go to the guns and get on with it. "


People are only talking like that because they're focusing on the failures - not the successes.

Sure, the country is in deep shit, law and order is a joke, Obama is making up constitutional law as he goes along and our congress can't pass anything conservative even with super majorities. But think of what we've accomplished...

With the aid of our writers, we've been able to destroy conservative politicians who embarrass us with their lack of Ivy League education and poor accents.

Fuck, we're way ahead.

Where do they hand out the prizes for smart parties?

Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2016 03:55 PM (Zs4uk)

76 Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:50 PM (NOIQH)

Hmmm, an island. That could work. Not sure about the "republic" part though. Yeah, no. That will never do.

A benevolent dictatorship I think will work just fine. All the horde is welcome except for BCochran. He'll drink all the booze. He can visit from time to time. Mostly during the week. Never on a weekend.

Ok. It's settled.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 04, 2016 03:55 PM (X+nFp)

77 There's no point in expecting CNN or any other of the MSM to "fairly" cover a story....


They're just an arm of the Progressive party.....

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 03:56 PM (/dSsq)

78 CNN has finally managed to out stupid NBC in their kissing of Obama's ass.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:57 PM (t2KH5)

79 I forgot to add Conservative Review & The Transom as news.

Posted by: Carol at January 04, 2016 03:57 PM (sj3Ax)

80 A benevolent dictatorship I think will work just fine.

Love and despair, but mostly, the despair.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 04, 2016 03:57 PM (evdj2)

81 link in sig to a great run down of the miscarriage of justice that caused all of this.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Just since Obama has been in office, the EPA has been leaning on farmers about dust from plowing, requiring ridiculous regulations of dairy farms for storage of milk (treating it as oil...), blocking off public lands so the law can't even chase criminals into the area, it goes on and on.

And for decades, westerners have been getting increasingly angry about how much land the federal government keeps gobbling up. Now Obama wants to seize 2.5 million more acres for a wilderness area in Malheur and Harney counties.

This is like a steam kettle that keeps building up. There's a lot of anger and frustration in rural areas, especially the west.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:58 PM (39g3+)

82 63 Supposedly someone handed them the keys to the entire refuge, including the buildings. Sounds too convenient, especially when Our Lord and Master Barack Hussein is trying to ban guns this week.

You know it seems fishy when the Hammonds asko you to stop "helping" and they continue the taakeover?

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 03:58 PM (Ltj2h)

83 White=Terrorism

Black=Expressing anger

When will those Whiteys burn down a Kwik Mart or whatever the hell they are called in the Ferguson area?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 03:58 PM (voOPb)

84 65 I keep news off these days. I don't want to hear the BS. My news sources are WSJ ( no editorials or I'll cancel) Breaking News App, Boston Herald App & Ace.

I have radio on & am now listening to Howie Carr, New England host.
Posted by: Carol


At this stage, my news sources go like this:

Check Hot Air to scan the headlines, in order to see what Ace will likely post about;

then click on the Ace of Spades link at the top of the Hot Air sidebar to read Ace's intelligent and funny analysis of the day's Hot Air headlines'

read the AoS comments for breaking news and rumors.

That's it.

Everything else is bullshit.

Posted by: zombie at January 04, 2016 03:58 PM (jBuUi)

85 You know it seems fishy when the Hammonds asko you to stop "helping" and they continue the taakeover?

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 03:58 PM (Ltj2h)

Is Bundy just a convenient dupe?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:59 PM (fWAjv)

86 I felt so terrorized that I had to shit in the hallway and smear it on the wall.

Posted by: Oregon Park Ranger at January 04, 2016 03:59 PM (HgMAr)

87 Ack!!

Conspiracies!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:59 PM (fWAjv)

88 72 >> The Conservative Treehouse blog ( link in nic) has covered the story.

But they are presenting basically only one side of the argument.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 04, 2016 03:59 PM (gyKtp)

89 A benevolent dictatorship I think will work just fine.

Ye'll want to be avoidin' the Prima Nocta as a dictator. Just sayin'

Posted by: William Wallace at January 04, 2016 04:00 PM (39g3+)

90 That's it.

Everything else is bullshit.



Yep. I like to point out that actually know less if you read the Times or watch the Alphabet News than if you read no news at all.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 04, 2016 04:00 PM (evdj2)

91 Black=Expressing anger

Yeah 2000 "angry" Youth took over a mall after Christmas..... Nary a mention of it in the MSM......

I guess they were taking advantage of the after Christmas sales.....

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 04:00 PM (/dSsq)

92
Happy New Year AllenG! Haven't seen you around for a while.

Working at work. It sucks, but somebody's gotta do it.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:42 PM (kff5f)








Imagine how much would you wouldn't be getting done if you had a blog.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 04:00 PM (j4wsR)

93 read the AoS comments for breaking news and rumors.

Posted by: zombie at January 04, 2016 03:58 PM (jBuUi)


BREAKING NEWS! - ABE VIGODA IS DEAD!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:01 PM (fWAjv)

94
CNN has finally managed to out stupid NBC in their kissing of Obama's ass.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:57 PM (t2KH5)
.............................

Wait until tomorrow when Chris Matthews "interviews" Hillary!.

Posted by: wth at January 04, 2016 04:01 PM (HgMAr)

95 Not wildly inappropriate sentencing but wildly inappropriate charges filed. The judge should have told the prosecutors to pound sand on the terrorism charge.

What most people forget is the reason for mandatory sentencing is that judges were letting murders, rapists, etc. off with a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: WOPR at January 04, 2016 04:01 PM (LTDSy)

96 the feds backed off on Bundy I; they can't afford to back off on Bundy II.

There may be provocateurs in the resistors' camp, but my bet is that the guys that aren't such intend on pushing the confrontation in the first place.

My assumption of their goal is "let it burn, but on our terms". If the corruptocrats back off, then you will start seeing Oath Keepers/III% at a lot more venues. If things get violent, then you're going to see the Patriot movement going more preemptive.


Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 04, 2016 04:01 PM (A9KzJ)

97 I guess they were taking advantage of the after Christmas sales.....

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 04:00 PM (/dSsq)


Dat shit fee yo!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:01 PM (fWAjv)

98 Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer ... dead!

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 04, 2016 04:02 PM (evdj2)

99 Wait until tomorrow when Chris Matthews "interviews" Hillary!.

Or Thursday when Cooper holds a town hall meeting with obama on guns....

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 04:02 PM (/dSsq)

100 65 I keep news off these days. I don't want to hear the BS. My news sources are WSJ ( no editorials or I'll cancel) Breaking News App,...

Posted by: Carol at January 04, 2016 03:53 PM (sj3Ax)

You should listen to the latest Colin Flaherty/Don't Make the Black Kids Angry podcast about WSJ journalists when considering it as a news source.

http://app.stitcher.com/browse/feed/48552/details


Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at January 04, 2016 04:02 PM (P5mpr)

101 Did I miss the 2015 top ten lists?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:02 PM (fWAjv)

102 This reminds me of a scene that took place during the disputed Florida recount in the aftermath of the 2000 election. There were some Democrat hacks that tried to do something sneaky in a room behind a locked door, but the Republicans on the scene tried to stop them by banging on the door, and a mild "commotion" ensued. The media was having a field day calling it a "Republican Riot." This is how they operate. Thy hesitate to call something terrorism when there are dead bodies around, but let some white guys engage in a tense situation--and it's "terrorism."

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2016 04:02 PM (4EXZy)

103 66. And the ones that are the most radical and trying to up the confrontation are the ones with the "get out of jail Free card" because their agency has them covered.

Just ask the FBI and Whitey Bulger.

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 04:02 PM (Ltj2h)

104 86 I felt so terrorized that I had to shit in the hallway and smear it on the wall.

Phew..for a minute there, I thought EPA Region 10 decided to join the 'fun'.

Posted by: IC at January 04, 2016 04:03 PM (a0IVu)

105 Not wildly inappropriate sentencing but wildly inappropriate charges filed.

Right, the sentencing I can live with against terrorists, or you end up with something like Sweden where a youth of indeterminate ethnic and religious background who raped a little girl got 80 hours of community service.

But charging him with terrorism for burning plants out that were going to kill his animals?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 04:04 PM (39g3+)

106 A benevolent dictatorship I think will work just fine.

Ye'll want to be avoidin' the Prima Nocta as a dictator. Just sayin'

Posted by: William Wallace at January 04, 2016 04:00 PM (39g3+)

At least the womenfolk are safe this time around.

When is JayZ getting married?

Already?

Screw it. EO!!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:05 PM (fWAjv)

107 "This is Ted Hairpiece. The Rancher Front has issued a press release claiming that the hot dog roller grill has converted and joined their cause. The make of the grill is a Hobart."

"We have in our studios an expert on snackbar appliances, Dr. Fred Sunbeam. Dr. Sunbeam, what do you make of this development?"

"It isn't unusual for appliances in remote snackbars, bored with their existence, to relish the attention they receive from strangers. This particular roller grill, while physically robust, isn't very sharp and is susceptible to blandishments."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 04:05 PM (hLRSq)

108 Montel Williams said on Twitter the government should "shoot them".

Gee, did he say that about the BLM people that were burning down cities?

Just curious...

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 04:06 PM (GGCsk)

109 "A benevolent dictatorship I think will work just fine."


Power is never "given". Power is something that is taken.

If some entity has the ability to give you "power", it has the ability to take it away. Therefore, it's not power.

Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2016 04:06 PM (Zs4uk)

110 Nobody move or the duck gets it.

Honestly, couldn't they pick a better place to take over?

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 04:07 PM (GGCsk)

111 Has anyone taken a dump on a cop car yet? Or perhaps raped someone?

Posted by: redenzo at January 04, 2016 04:07 PM (WCnJW)

112 I thought there was a specific definition of terrorism involving, oddly enough, terrorizing people. By what definition does this thing in Oregon meet that definition.

FWIW Occupy Wall Street wasn't terrorism either by any definition I understand.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2016 04:07 PM (hJrjt)

113 There's THE NINTH CIRCUIT being all tough on crime against these white defendants.

The most liberal court in the land abandons it's liberal tenants and becomes Dirty Harry when it comes to burning trees and shit.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 04, 2016 04:07 PM (YqcVw)

114 Abe is still alive as of 1:14 pm 1/4/2016

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (Ltj2h)

115 Honestly, couldn't they pick a better place to take over?

The snack bar rules here and they have great CDs to watch about Oregon.

Posted by: Dumbass Militia at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (39g3+)

116 The "press" is having a field day with these "anti-Government terrorists."


Their words...

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (/dSsq)

117 "BREAKING NEWS! - ABE VIGODA IS DEAD!"


Not buying it. Abe's still got a good couple of years in him.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (LA7Cm)

118 Nobody move or the duck gets it.

Too late.

Posted by: The University of Oregon at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (evdj2)

119 Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2016 04:06 PM (Zs4uk)

Pretty sure if i'm forking over a couple hundred million for an island, i'm not being "given" a damn thing.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (X+nFp)

120 >>>>CNN's obvious idiocy aside, and the hypocritical nature of the
Propaganda Press generally, there is one aspect of this Oregon event
that bugs me. Taking up arms against the government is serious stuff,
and should be reserved for big deal events.



This Oregon protest (which the victims of government abuse
themselves have condemned) should be very public civil disobedience on a
protest level, like a court sit-in or an occupation of the prosecutors
office, and not a gun-wielding occupation of a remote building.
.
.
.
.I agree and this doesn't to me warrant the armed response we are seeing. Even though nothing is being destroyed.

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 04:09 PM (iONHu)

121 >>wildly inappropriate sentencing <<

But the BLM movement who is actually looting, rioting and burning gets praise.

I don't support the Bundy clown-show. But this is a making of the governments own hand.

It's also the lede story in the NYT today. You know, to show those crazy right-wing, gun totin, Republicans

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 04:10 PM (GGCsk)

122 If it was BLM, it would be about the 'mostly peaceful protests.'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 04, 2016 04:10 PM (oVJmc)

123
It's also the lede story in the NYT today. You know, to show those crazy right-wing, gun totin, Republicans


Because there's nothing as "important" going on in the World right now....

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 04:11 PM (/dSsq)

124 What? Abe Vigoda fell off a cliff with Jeff Goldblum?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 04, 2016 04:11 PM (YqcVw)

125 Next, I think they should take over a rest stop on the turnpike.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 04:11 PM (GGCsk)

126 What? Abe Vigoda fell off a cliff with Jeff Goldblum?

In a torrid sexual embrace?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 04, 2016 04:11 PM (oVJmc)

127 Abe Vigoda may have years left in him but I doubt they're good at age 157.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 04:12 PM (39g3+)

128 Am I the only one that thinks Bill Clinton looks terrible?

I'm going back to reading a book.

Posted by: Carol at January 04, 2016 04:12 PM (sj3Ax)

129 Abe Vigoda pushed Jeff Goldblum off the cliff. But it was nothing personal, just business. He always liked Jeff.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 04, 2016 04:13 PM (evdj2)

130 114 Abe is still alive as of 1:14 pm 1/4/2016

Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (Ltj2h)

I double checked right before I posted.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:13 PM (fWAjv)

131 Abe Vigoda may have years left in him but I doubt they're good at age 157.


Vic calls that The Bloom of Youth.

Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commentor with equal or greater value at January 04, 2016 04:13 PM (evdj2)

132 They should arrest them all, just like they arrested the Occupoop Wall street and the Dec. mall takeover.... 2000 Youts and not one arrest....

Posted by: donna at January 04, 2016 04:14 PM (/dSsq)

133 128--the old horn dog might yet help Hillary get elected-without ever getting back to the WH himself......

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2016 04:14 PM (4EXZy)

134 So terrorists are the ones who DON'T shit on police cars.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2016 04:14 PM (fBkaR)

135 "We're back with further updates. To clarify, the Rancher Front is angry with the BLM that is the Bureau of Land Management, not #BLM which is Black Lives Matter. The Rancher Front has stated it has no argument with Black Lives Matter Oregon, stating that "Derrick has always been a standup guy."

Now back to Oregon Under Siege: Day Two."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 04:14 PM (hLRSq)

136 "I agree and this doesn't to me warrant the armed response we are seeing. Even though nothing is being destroyed."

The federal government is sending two men to prison, again, on terrorism charges because they have resisted the past attempts to push them off their own land.

This family held out, so they're being made an example of.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 04:14 PM (GZ6Pf)

137 Taking up arms against the government is serious stuff,
and should be reserved for big deal events.


There's a school of thought that says that threshold should have been passed several years ago.

That being said, there's the cause, and then there's the spark.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 04, 2016 04:16 PM (9krrF)

138 I crossed BLM up in Oregon, don't take me alive.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 04, 2016 04:16 PM (9krrF)

139 Going for three?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 04, 2016 04:17 PM (9krrF)

140 Dammit, I killed the thread...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 04, 2016 04:17 PM (9krrF)

141 At this stage, my news sources go like this:
Check Hot Air to scan the headlines, in order to see what Ace will likely post about;
then click on the Ace of Spades link at the top of the Hot Air sidebar to read Ace's intelligent and funny analysis of the day's Hot Air headlines'
read the AoS comments for breaking news and rumors.
That's it.
Everything else is bullshit.
Posted by: zombie at January 04, 2016 03:58 PM (jBuUi)



Yeah, my news sources have been pretty much whittled down to Vic's Morning Headlines and whatever Ace opines on. Unsurprisingly, I'm nearly always far more informed on any given subject than anyone I run across in meatspace.

Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2016 04:17 PM (D5hxK)

142 It always amazes me how powerful the BLM (Land Management) is. I have to deal with them for environmental impact assessments for major developments and to say they are a PITA is a massive understatement.

Posted by: IC at January 04, 2016 04:17 PM (a0IVu)

143 Late October 2016, on the eve of the one and only Presidential Debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, Bill Clinton gets rushed to the hospital...a nation holds it's collective breath....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2016 04:17 PM (4EXZy)

144 "So terrorists are the ones who DON'T shit on police cars."


I know, right? Getting confusing.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 04, 2016 04:18 PM (LA7Cm)

145 TAKING OVER THE ROTC BUILDING AT UCLA: Groovy, man!

TAKING OVER A RANGER'S HUT: OMG terrorism!!!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 04, 2016 04:18 PM (oVJmc)

146 From the link in my sig:

"A number of ranchers at the top of the mountain traded their BLM permits and private property for land on the valley floor, allowing the anti-grazing groups to create a 170,000 acre wilderness, with almost 100,000 acres being "cow-free."

"The last holdouts on that cow-free wilderness were the Hammonds," explained Maupin. And because the Hammonds have large chunks of private property in the heart of the cooperative management area, they carried a target on their backs.

"It's become more and more obvious over the years that that the BLM and the wildlife refuge want that ranch. It would tie in with what they have," said Inglis.

The Hammonds also lost their ability to water cattle on one BLM permit when refuge personnel drained a watering hole that the Hammonds had always used."

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 04:19 PM (GZ6Pf)

147 I guess CNN disapproved of the Wisconsin public unions taking over the legislative building as well!

Posted by: hadoop at January 04, 2016 04:19 PM (2X7pN)

148 While the hypocrisy of CNN is interesting, the fact that all our 'allies' in the mideast want to start a holy war against Iran, and the 0bama administration is about to fork over $100 billion to the Iranians next month I find fascinating... in the slow motion train wreck definition of fascinating.

Posted by: free range jihadist at January 04, 2016 04:20 PM (fbovC)

149 Looting, rioting,overturned police cars--a rational reaction ....
Occupying land--terrorism!!

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2016 04:20 PM (4EXZy)

150 >>>108 Montel Williams said on Twitter the government should "shoot them".

Really?

Posted by: m at January 04, 2016 04:20 PM (d4uu4)

151 The AIM occupied freakin' ALCATRAZ ISLAND, which at the time was a FEDERAL PRISON on FEDERAL LAND, and stayed there for OVER A YEAR, and yet they are considered HEROES. Students across the nation study the incident with the "occupiers were heroic" narrative (it's in a lot of modern high school history curricula.)

and then Nicholas Cage and Sean Connery broke in there and stopped them from firing the missiles at San Francisco

Posted by: High School Textbook at January 04, 2016 04:20 PM (xwPSp)

152 Cowboys doing a controlled burn on their Land... which gets a bit out of control... TERRORISM...

Shooting up an Army Base in the Name of Islam... workplace violence.

Stabby Stabby in a UC Merced Classroom, while supporting ISIS... disgruntled student.

Killing a Palestinian in the Act of trying to kill others....ISRAELI Terrorism...

Arming ISIS... makes you a Presidential Candidate....


Posted by: MSM Stylebook at January 04, 2016 04:21 PM (f7rv6)

153 More:

"In the Hammonds' plea agreement in the 2012 trial, the BLM obtained the first right of refusal should the family have to sell their land and BLM leases, Maupin added.

The Maupins themselves had a small lease that also bordered the "cow-free wilderness" and the Oregon Natural Desert Association was "relentless in their pursuit to have us off, in order to expand the cow-free wilderness," Maupin said. The group would criticize the ranchers' water usage, causing them to pipe water to their cattle, which in turn instigated more complaints from the group.

Eventually the Maupins sold their permit and moved.

But the Hammonds remained."

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 04:22 PM (GZ6Pf)

154 148--my great fear is that all the little flare-ups ongoing in the ME will coagulate into one ghastly war--with a weak President at the helm.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2016 04:22 PM (4EXZy)

155 "Yeah, my news sources have been pretty much whittled down to Vic's Morning Headlines and whatever Ace opines on. Unsurprisingly, I'm nearly always far more informed on any given subject than anyone I run across in meatspace."

Toss Weasel Zippers into that pile, and for the most part, everything is covered.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2016 04:22 PM (ptqRm)

156 Was looking but has anyone posted CNN's Anderson Cooper is doing a sit down with Barak to talk gun control Thursday?

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2016 04:23 PM (C1Suc)

157 >>>>>The federal government is sending two men to prison, again, on terrorism
charges because they have resisted the past attempts to push them off
their own land.



This family held out, so they're being made an example of.
.
.
.
.And that warrants an armed response of Federal property how? I am really trying to come up with something to justify a massive but polite armed response, but IMO it isn't really there.

Where were all of these people when those guys went to trial the first time? And what is the point of invading and taking over an unmanned Ranger Station? How is that going to help those two guys?

Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 04:23 PM (iONHu)

158 "148--my great fear is that all the little flare-ups ongoing in the ME will coagulate into one ghastly war--with a weak President at the helm."

If I'm a terrorist state, I'm making my big move with Obama in office. He won't do jack shit.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 04:23 PM (GZ6Pf)

159
Was looking but has anyone posted CNN's Anderson Cooper is doing a sit down with Barak to talk gun control Thursday?

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2016 04:23 PM (C1Suc)








Dunno. Is anyone cycling through airports today?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 04:24 PM (j4wsR)

160 --my great fear is that all the little flare-ups ongoing in the ME will coagulate into one ghastly war--with a weak President at the helm.

Who will be more interested in declaring war on his own citizens than on anyone overseas.

It's 1914 and we're Russia.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 04, 2016 04:24 PM (9krrF)

161
Honestly the "news" is basically some kind of crackpot novel that could have been written by Elmore Leonard or Dave Barry.
Its just so ridiculously of the hook bizarre it would be comical if it weren't real.

Posted by: simplemind at January 04, 2016 04:24 PM (JTwsP)

162 oy...

a headline seen on yahoo front page, links to Wash Post:

"Donald Trump's new TV ad: Make America great by keeping the darkies out"

oy, can't find it now... also saw this:

"Obama Urges Citizens To Stand Up Against the National Rifle Association" (Hillery! has been saying that, too.)

Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 04:24 PM (qSIlh)

163 "and the 0bama administration is about to fork over $100 billion to the Iranians next month"

That hundred billion will buy a lot of low tech weapons for irregular paramilitary type guerilla war making.

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 04:24 PM (6sTpM)

164 "Yeah, my news sources have been pretty much whittled down to Vic's Morning Headlines and whatever Ace opines on. Unsurprisingly, I'm nearly always far more informed on any given subject than anyone I run across in meatspace."

Yeah, same here, and I get that feeling a lot myself.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 04, 2016 04:24 PM (H1SMJ)

165 I think both Clintons look like shit. Whats the bettign pool for who will drop first. Hillary, Bill or Berny.

Posted by: Distant Observer at January 04, 2016 04:25 PM (Z+SDJ)

166
TAKING OVER A RANGER'S HUT: OMG terrorism!!!
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel



Hut? That's "Federal building" -- as every single newswhore is intoning.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 04:25 PM (kdS6q)

167 158--It would be a good move on their part. Obama's a disaster.


(but Bush will still get the blame)

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2016 04:25 PM (4EXZy)

168 How many people have those "terrorists" in Oregon killed?

By the way I think those guys in Oregon are out of line and it is a stupid thing to do...but terrorists? I don't think so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2016 04:25 PM (gf8BH)

169 Has Beck given his that's-not-who-we-are rant yet?

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2016 04:25 PM (Fmupd)

170 Saw some CNN. They had the usual suspects on saying the reason why the Oregon "militia members" weren't being called terrorists is because they are white.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Whale at January 04, 2016 04:26 PM (uhftQ)

171 And that warrants an armed response of Federal property how? I am really trying to come up with something to justify a massive but polite armed response, but IMO it isn't really there.

Well, the Hammonds didn't want that, rejected it, asked them not to do it, etc.

But that takeover is about a lot more than just this one situation.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 04:26 PM (39g3+)

172
Someone should tell Anderson Cooper that armed gays don't get bashed.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 04:26 PM (j4wsR)

173 oh, here's the link, from the "Plum Stupid Line"

http://tinyurl.com/nuqs6wk

Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 04:26 PM (qSIlh)

174 122 If it was BLM, it would be about the 'mostly peaceful protests.'

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 04, 2016 04:10 PM (oVJmc)
----

If it was BLM this would be confusing as shit since it would be BLM vs. the real BLM.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:26 PM (MbrzC)

175 "Where were all of these people when those guys went to trial the first time? And what is the point of invading and taking over an unmanned Ranger Station? How is that going to help those two guys?"


They likely didn't know about it until the DOJ decided to get involved to push for more and more. The point? Well, why don't you go see what they say their stated point is and get back to me.

How will it help? We're talking about it, aren't we? Before this happened how many people knew about the Hammonds?

The government is, essentially, throwing two men in jail for resisting their attempts to steal the family's land. If that's not a BFD, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 04:27 PM (GZ6Pf)

176 Can you get me out of this thread, Ace? For old times' sake?

Posted by: Abe Vigoda at January 04, 2016 04:27 PM (8ZskC)

177
Martin Heinrich*

Taking "back" land that all Americans own has a name: STEALING. It's time these criminals get to occupy another federal facility: prison.

*United States Senator from New Mexico

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 04:27 PM (kdS6q)

178 160, We're actually Britain who did nothing to stop what everyone knew was coming....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 04, 2016 04:27 PM (4EXZy)

179 "Obama Urges Citizens To Stand Up Against the National Rifle Association">>>

Do they do this by not buying guns?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 04, 2016 04:27 PM (XtAzU)

180 BREAKING NEWS! - ABE VIGODA IS DEAD!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:01 PM (fWAjv)



Abe - no. Wayne Rogers - yes

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2016 04:27 PM (493sH)

181 By the way I think those guys in Oregon are out of line and it is a stupid thing to do...but terrorists? I don't think so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2016 04:25 PM (gf8BH)


Militia with guns = terrorists.

Unlike Muslims shooting guns at people; those motives are impossible to ascertain and we need to be wary of hasty judgment.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (0NdlF)

182 And what is the point of invading and taking over an unmanned Ranger Station? How is that going to help those two guys?


Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 04:23 PM (iONHu)


There are souvenir coffee mugs in great danger right now and there you are, belittling the sacrifice they are prepared to make.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (hLRSq)

183 I know this ... if I served three months in a Federal cage, and after release a judge said "so sorry, you owe another four years" ... I damn sure wouldn't go back alive.

History is complicated, when you read all the little details. The heroes are rarely angelic, the villains rarely demonic.

And so we have this. A sketchy situation with people spoiling for a fight against a tyranny dying to drop the hammer - over two guys too tired to defend themselves.

I say ... doesn't matter. Waiting for the "perfect time" to stand up is just another excuse to sit.

If it doesn't go Waco here - it will somewhere else in the next year. Barry insists on it. But he doesn't know what he's signing up for in the bargain.

Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (E7zwb)

184 Convenient that whichever BLM is being talked about I can't stand them.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (fWAjv)

185 "TAKING OVER A RANGER'S HUT"

There is also a Ranger Field Station that looks like a Levitt build modular home from the '70's. And it looks like it hasn't be used since it was built.

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (6sTpM)

186 I really believe these guys in Oregon are going about this the wrong way and making some stupid comments which the liberal media is running with. Just because these guys have guns is all the progressive media needs to make it into something it very well may not be.

From what I've read about the main incident it appears to be a federal govt. and bureaucrats gone mad. I haven't heard anyone from the lib media talk about this at all or about the recent federal prisoners Obama has had released due to his belief the sentences were to harsh. Maybe he should step in and let the two ranchers off with time served already and keep them out of prison. If Obummbler were to do that it may end this whole mess, but, being the community agitator he is, I wouldn't doubt he's hoping this incident escalates.

Posted by: Jock-Strap at January 04, 2016 04:29 PM (ftKKE)

187 "Obama Urges Citizens To Stand Up Against the National Rifle Association">>>




I urge everyone to give Barry the one finger salute

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2016 04:29 PM (493sH)

188 150 >>>108 Montel Williams said on Twitter the government should "shoot them".

Really?

Posted by: m at January 04, 2016 04:20 PM (d4uu4)
---

Yes, really.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:29 PM (MbrzC)

189 There is also a Ranger Field Station that looks like a Levitt build modular home from the '70's. And it looks like it hasn't be used since it was built.

Me and Boo Boo use it as a rape shack when Leo is in town.

Posted by: Yogi Bear at January 04, 2016 04:30 PM (8ZskC)

190 Enstompenation of the Nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 04, 2016 04:30 PM (erRNA)

191 Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 04:23 PM (iONHu)

Boston Tea Party?? 3% tax...

Bunker and Breed's Hill? Brits were just trying to enforce Gun Control Laws.

Each Man must eventually draw his own conclusions... and make his own decisions about freedom.

Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 04:30 PM (f7rv6)

192 BDS versus BLM versus BDS sufferers versus #BLM

And...

GO!

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:30 PM (fWAjv)

193 Where were all of these people when those guys went to trial the first time? And what is the point of invading and taking over an unmanned Ranger Station? How is that going to help those two guys?
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 04:23 PM (iONHu)


That unmanned building takeover is making the national news isn't it? What would be the more advantage if they would have taken an occupied building?

Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2016 04:31 PM (Fmupd)

194 188 150 >>>108 Montel Williams said on Twitter the government should "shoot them".

Really?

Posted by: m at January 04, 2016 04:20 PM (d4uu4)
---

Yes, really.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:29 PM (MbrzC)

Montel Williams 8h8 hours ago

Yup I said it...


Hole....dig.....

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:34 PM (fWAjv)

195 Hey Booboo, let's take over that ranger hut

Posted by: Yogi The Bear at January 04, 2016 04:35 PM (gf8BH)

196 How will it help? We're talking about it, aren't we? Before this happened how many people knew about the Hammonds?

The government is, essentially, throwing two men in jail for resisting their attempts to steal the family's land. If that's not a BFD, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 04:27 PM (GZ6Pf)
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Yup. Though let's not forget they're throwing the two Hammonds in jail...AGAIN, after being mad the prior judge only give them 9mo and 12mo respectively (which they already served). It's such utter BS and the BLM is showing once again why many of their employees need to be hung, the whole long sorted affair is just one story of so many that have and are ongoing.


Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:36 PM (MbrzC)

197 Militia with guns = terrorists.

Unlike Muslims shooting guns at people; those motives are impossible to ascertain and we need to be wary of hasty judgment.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (0NdlF)
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Start a successful backfire to save your own land == Terrorist in court of law. <- without that level of stupidity we wouldn't be here.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:38 PM (MbrzC)

198 189 There is also a Ranger Field Station that looks like a Levitt build modular home from the '70's. And it looks like it hasn't be used since it was built.

Me and Boo Boo use it as a rape shack when Leo is in town.

Posted by: Yogi Bear at January 04, 2016 04:30 PM (8ZskC)


He aint kidding... and will be hearing from my Lawyer...

Posted by: Cindy Bear at January 04, 2016 04:39 PM (f7rv6)

199 Sigh....

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2016 04:39 PM (gf8BH)

200 A few years ago, Daily Caller had an article on Eric Holder's participation in the armed occupation of Columbia U's ROTC building in his radical college days

http://tinyurl.com/8v6w55e

Posted by: kbdabear at January 04, 2016 04:39 PM (WIUBe)

201 184 Convenient that whichever BLM is being talked about I can't stand them.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (fWAjv)
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Yup.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:39 PM (MbrzC)

202 185 "TAKING OVER A RANGER'S HUT"

There is also a Ranger Field Station that looks like a Levitt build modular home from the '70's. And it looks like it hasn't be used since it was built.

Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 04:28 PM (6sTpM)
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Not sure why they didn't just burn it down, then again I guess nobody would cover that.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:40 PM (MbrzC)

203 From what I've read about the main incident it appears to be a federal govt. and bureaucrats gone mad. I haven't heard anyone from the lib media talk about this at all or about the recent federal prisoners Obama has had released due to his belief the sentences were to harsh. Maybe he should step in and let the two ranchers off with time served already and keep them out of prison. If Obummbler were to do that it may end this whole mess, but, being the community agitator he is, I wouldn't doubt he's hoping this incident escalates.

Posted by: Jock-Strap at January 04, 2016 04:29 PM (ftKKE)
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That would be the sane response (and one that already should have happened prior to this event), so it's not going to happen.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:41 PM (MbrzC)

204 you all have been nood

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at January 04, 2016 04:43 PM (MbrzC)

205 So... the Boston tea Party. Terrorism?
Fine if you think that, but then this question - had you been around, which side would you have been on?

Posted by: Keith at January 04, 2016 04:45 PM (aZ8cu)

206 Now that we finally have your attention for how much land is owned by the federal government, can we see some support for slavery reparations in the form of 40 acres and a mule (or the value of a mule in tax credit) for every black family (one man and one woman, legally married and their children) in the United States?


If the Republicans had any brains, they would have a bill to do this on the floor of Congress this week.

Posted by: obnoxious ahole at January 04, 2016 04:51 PM (MpvuV)

207 It's not like this hasn't happened before, post WWII

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_%281946%29

Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 04, 2016 04:55 PM (A9KzJ)

208 Not to be a dick, but am actually hoping that Obama reactivates Janet Reno for this one.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 04, 2016 05:00 PM (T78UI)

209 Vanilla Isis?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 04, 2016 05:14 PM (r1fLd)

210 Okay, this is going to tie Soothsayer for weirdest post when he posted here from a car wash.

I'm on a date and watching the new Star Wars eating a bacon cheeseburger in a leather recliner. The preview for the new Star Trek looks good.

Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 05:41 PM (oUkrT)

211 It's obviously not terrorism for several reasons.

For one, the target is not the civilian population but is specifically the federal government.

It's stupid and it's armed insurrection. Or open rebellion.

It's not comparable to occupy wall street because the word "occupy" was figurative in that sense whereas here, it's literal. They are literally occupying this park. It's sort of no longer a protest when you are "willing to kill or be killed."

From my perspective there are two leftist takes on this and neither see them as something to be feared (like a terrorist). They are either ridiculed ("Y'all Qaeda") or used to show a disparity between the (lack of) response by, say, the National Guard compared to the response to recent unarmed protesters in other places.

This whole thing is a bad look for you guys.

Posted by: seattle slough at January 05, 2016 12:43 AM (heRVI)

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