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Obama's Plan to Expand the Scope of Background Checks for Private Gun Sales, Of Course In Defiance of Congress
The law says this about who must conduct a background check on a gun sale: those who are "engaged in the business" of selling guns must perform background checks, and "engaged in the business" is defined like this:
(21) The term “engaged in the business” means-- ... (C) as applied to a dealer in firearms, as defined in section 921(a)(11)(A), a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;Obama's newest unconstitutional exertion of unlawful power is to redefine what "regular course of trade" is, on his own claimed authority, to achieve by illegal dictate what Congress has already refused.
Stymied by Republicans in Congress, President Barack Obama is expected to act alone to take executive action to tighten restrictions on gun sales. White House adviser Valerie Jarrett, speaking at a vigil last week for victims of the 2012 Newtown, Conn., shooting, confirmed that the president has asked his staff to complete a proposal that would expand background checks on gun sales without congressional approval. Before Jarrett's public pronouncement, The New York Times and other media have reported the Obama administration's action would broaden the definition of who is considered a high-volume gun dealer, a move that could force background checks for certain sales at gun shows, online, and in other areas that fall outside the law.He's signaled before that he'll be moving on this in the first couple of weeks of the new year. Paul Ryan: Obama's Overreach on Presidential Lawmaking Is "Dangerous." Hey, who woke this guy up?
Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, on Monday called President Obama's forthcoming executive action to curb gun violence a "dangerous level of executive overreach." "While we don't yet know the details of the plan, the president is at minimum subverting the legislative branch, and potentially overturning its will," Ryan said in a statement. "No president should be able to reverse legislative failure by executive fiat, not even incrementally. The American people deserve a president who will respect their constitutional rights - all of them."
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Satan observing Shabbos at January 04, 2016 02:21 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: HH at January 04, 2016 02:21 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: wooga at January 04, 2016 02:22 PM (cFyyY)
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2016 02:23 PM (mR7Es)
anyway, if Congress won't give him what he wants, the President can just take it. It's in the penumbra of animations from the Eleventeenth Amendment.
Just wait till President Trump finds that out.
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 02:23 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 04, 2016 02:25 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Roland THTG at January 04, 2016 02:25 PM (QM5S2)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 04, 2016 02:25 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at January 04, 2016 02:25 PM (ucB75)
Posted by: MTF at January 04, 2016 02:25 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (FkBIv)
Mitch McCornhole and Lyin' Ryan will then fall all over themselves to fully fund every last one of Obama's executive orders, while being gaudily self-congratulatory about their ability to "work together productively with the President".
Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: fly gal at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (8TdcF)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (sqs5K)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (RD7QR)
*ragetwitches all over the place*
In which I perform the rant about how we are a representative democracy which is built upon the notion of separation of powers and respect for the fact that each side will have its chance to get elected and push for its agenda with the full knowledge that the other side gets to do so as well and when that stops and one side decides its agenda will go through no matter what, then there is no consent of the governed.
Fuck this shit, I'm going to Puma Punku.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (mf5HN)
But at least TFG tried.
Rinse, lather, repeat
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:27 PM (voOPb)
'Occasional' will mean what we want it to mean at any given time.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:27 PM (fWAjv)
CUE THE SHILL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (zgHLA)
I wonder if he would have said that about BLM who was actually burning down our cities and committing felonies?
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (GGCsk)
You know, if my kid was killed in the shooting I would have stood up to the rat faced bitch and asked "Oh, you are? So how the fuck would that have prevented that mentally deranged POS from obtaining a gun to kill my child?"
Because it would not have done a thing.
Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (LzzEz)
I wonder how many he sold today?
Posted by: tu3031 at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: mugiwara at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (D5hxK)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: redenzo at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (WCnJW)
Posted by: Martin Niemöller at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (bpn7O)
...Meanwhile, her public face puppet is on a golf course in Hawaii, and thus unavailable for comment.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (hJrjt)
You guys really need to elect me President.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Hillary Redham Clinton at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (fbovC)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (1ijHg)
But you forget the judiciary.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:30 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 04, 2016 02:30 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 04, 2016 02:30 PM (QPdNE)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at January 04, 2016 02:30 PM (fBape)
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2016 02:29 PM (hJrjt)
A person with a really, really conspiratorial mindset could arrive at the conclusion that the gun manufacturers arranged to get Obama elected in order to boost their sales through the roof. But that might just be my alien symbiote speaking.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 04, 2016 02:30 PM (RD7QR)
*puts flashy thing away*
Posted by: Men in Black at January 04, 2016 02:31 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 02:31 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 04, 2016 02:25 PM (iQIUe)
A ball-less Congress, yes.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2016 02:31 PM (Dj0WE)
CUE THE SHILL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (gf8B
Dayum, you almost sound wackobirdish
Posted by: The Maver-dick John McCain
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:31 PM (voOPb)
At least the president is elected, more or less directly.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (Xd2w5)
AND the Constitution. But impeachment is off the table so he can do what he wants.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Barack the Splendid at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (CFc5L)
http://tinyurl.com/hxotxdz
Quickly Mitch-boy, to the Surrendermobile!
Posted by: Paul Ryan at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Stu-22 at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (RMOpc)
Valerie Jarrett confirmed that President Obama would personally take
action
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First of all, and I mean no disrespect, why are there continuing vigils for this event? And why is Valerie Jarrett speaking at it? What does she have to do with it? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have the principal or a local pastor speak? And why is she speaking on behalf of the President? Did she get elected to something while I wasn't looking?
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (dFi94)
When's that "important conversation" on hammer and fist "control"coming??
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (GGCsk)
Remember when lame ducks were considered powerless? Man, were those good times.
Now, please keep running big on gun control, Hillary!. I'd love to see Pennsylvania go red.
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (q/kmn)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Barack the Splendid at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (CFc5L)
I'M THE BOSS AROUND HERE!
Posted by: Michelle, Strapping on The Marital Aid at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (RD7QR)
I'd sooner believe that hamsters can learn to fly a glider.
Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (6sTpM)
He just won'[t stop.
Posted by: HH at January 04, 2016 02:21 PM (DrCtv)
Why should he. He will not have a sudden urge to follow the law based on his conscience since he doesn't have one.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt Sanity Prod (tm) at January 04, 2016 02:30 PM (fBape)
A boy named sue I think
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (gf8BH)
You don't get many Reichstag fires unless you set them yourself. Don't let a crisis go to waste.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (OBp0J)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 04, 2016 02:30 PM (QPdNE)
All FFL holders have to conduct a background check. If you buy a gun online, it has to ship to a local FFL that transfers it to you after doing the background check. If it's a private sale, then no background check is needed. However, if it's a private sale and you're having the gun shipped to you across state lines, then you still have to ship it to a FFL who then conducts the transfer after conducting a background check.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (1ijHg)
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (HLcYU)
Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (6sTpM
They have, I've seen it on NOVA.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (voOPb)
Right to rule. It's a first-year class at the Ivy League law schools.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (Xd2w5)
I wonder how many he sold today?
Posted by: tu3031 at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (YFFpo)
Dow is shitting the bed today.
Gun stocks through the roof.
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Thom. Jefferfon at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (3ZtZW)
My sister works in retail and cannot believe how many, and how brazen the black shoplifters are in the store she works at. She told me that they must have stolen at least $150k-$200K in the 3 weeks leading up to Christmas.
And when they were approached they called her a racist bitch and ran out the door.
This experiment is about to come to an end I think.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (sqs5K)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (voOPb)
I recall some saying along the line of: "if it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up."
Posted by: Country Singer at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (GUBah)
________________________________________________
I am curious about enforcement. And the first person they actually arrest for violating this illegal expansion of the law would seem to have a pretty solid case for outright dismissal of the charges.
Posted by: NotCoach at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (rsudF)
I wonder how many he sold today?
Posted by: tu3031 at January 04, 2016 02:28 PM (YFFpo)
The Dulles show this weekend-
'There is a lot more people in the show than I've seen in a long time,' Bingham said. 'They've actually opened another side of the venue and stuff like that. So, has it had an impact? I think it probably has had a pretty big impact on the sales.'
And it is ALWAYS hard to find parking there. I can imagine what a bitch it was this weekend.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (HLcYU)
The devil reads the scriptures.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (RD7QR)
Joe Average American with a rifle? Danger! Danger Will Robinson! [Flopping robot arms around like a robot spaz]
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (Nwg0u)
A class-action lawsuit, for mal-practice of governing the country.
Posted by: ALH at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (JrKKc)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (OBp0J)
Don't hold your breath waiting. I have a feeling it will be a long, long, long time before a republican president is A) elected or B) has the balls to do things that this jackass does.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (voOPb)
Why do people think that lawyers (or law professors or judges) are somehow uniquely tasked with carefully guarding the rule of law?
You don't hire a lawyer to enforce the law, you hire one to get around the law.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (Xd2w5)
Posted by: JoeTheStrummer at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (eHKvm)
I don't begrudge parents and so on remembering the horror of that day and memorializing the slain. But its damned obvious why the president is choosing this particular event over all the other terrible things that have taken place while he has been in office and it has nothing to do with sympathy.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (iIzG7)
*Those without dicks are welcome to hold mine, btw
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (wKcQA)
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 04, 2016 02:34 PM (OBp0J)
And impeachment will be back on the table!
YAY!
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (UzPAd)
You don't get many Reichstag fires unless you set them yourself. Don't let a crisis go to waste.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:33 PM (Xd2w5)
Yep, there will be vigils until a better mass shooting comes along. If it hadn't been for Newtown, we would still have Columbine vigils.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 02:37 PM (Ltj2h)
Meanwhile, they forcibly take away Second Amendment rights and cheer.
-_-
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 02:37 PM (GGCsk)
I would hate to think this would curtail efforts to create a gun crisis on our southern border
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 02:37 PM (HLcYU)
Hahahaha. No. See, no one on planet earth has standing.
Posted by: SCOTUS at January 04, 2016 02:37 PM (LzzEz)
In other words, Valerie our SPOTUS (shadow pres of the united states) is writing the proposal up, and Obama just has to check the YEs or No box. Sounds about right.
Posted by: LizLem at January 04, 2016 02:37 PM (hvf9s)
fully stocked with supporters, parrots, acolytes, sycophants and armed
with pre-screened questions to give his highness the equivalent of a
teleprompter question."
Remember the fake "doctors" who showed up at the town hall meetings to give their enthusiastic, full-throated endorsements of Obamacare? White coats, stethoscopes, and all?
The "doctors" who somehow all actually turned out to be career Democratic political operatives with no medical background or training whatsoever?
Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2016 02:37 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (fBkaR)
Posted by: steevy at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (8HTq1)
Can an EO violate the Constitution? Like, say he issued one that established whatever as a State Religion, even if not enforced and more like a State Bird kind of thing.
Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Guest of the Scotts at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (1g7qm)
1) Unenforceable. I'll buy or sell a gun from/to whoever I like. F U obama.
2) Newtown, Conn.? Does she even know where the murderer got the guns? Idiot. F U jarrett.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (ODxAs)
"Whatever the President wants is Constitutional, assuming the President is a Democrat."
top marks right there
(as if he ever actually graded an exam)
Posted by: brak at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (xwPSp)
Posted by: DaveA (I love science allegorically) at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Fritz at January 04, 2016 02:38 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 04, 2016 02:39 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM (iIzG7)
Excellent question; have wondered this myself.
I know the taxes they revolted against were less, for starters.
Posted by: LizLem at January 04, 2016 02:39 PM (hvf9s)
Why are there even Con Law classes in the first place?
It's not long, it's not complicated and it's in English.
I'd be more impressed with a course that covers the menu at Denny's. That's at least somewhat complex.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:39 PM (Xd2w5)
Because if this just happens and there's no reaction, the next incremental step will be taken. And we are very few of those steps away from the tipping point, beyond which any effective resistance will be futile.
Light the fucking fuse already. Let's get the Second American Revolution started while we still have a chance to win it, and restore what's been lost.
Posted by: Bluesman at January 04, 2016 02:40 PM (kUMtX)
Which of course means I'm going to roll over and show Obama my belly as I pee all over myself.
Posted by: Paul Ryan at January 04, 2016 02:40 PM (z/Ubi)
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Um. That's your/our job. We're the final check/balance thing.
Which, better hurry. That window is closing fast and will never re-open in your lifetime.
Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 04, 2016 02:40 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 02:40 PM (kdS6q)
Which, in a way, is the story of Barack Obama.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 02:40 PM (hLRSq)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDA4lcw8k1g
and just ignore TFG.
Posted by: DaveA (I love science allegorically) at January 04, 2016 02:41 PM (DL2i+)
Look at this from Obama's perspective: He doesn't give a shit.
No case is going to hit SCOTUS before next year. Obama will be out of office before then. So it's left to his successor to deal with it.
If a Republican wins, the EO is reversed.
If a Democrat wins, the inevitable SCOTUS ruling lands on his/her lap. Obama is seen as the Democrat who tried to "do something" and won't get tarnished by its failure.
All Obama cares about is the appearance of trying to do something so as to burnish his legacy. He doesn't care if it actually works...he only cares if he can sell it as a positive.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 02:41 PM (eytER)
Why do you think they used such ambiguous language?
'Shall not be infringed'...I mean, can you get any more vague than that?
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 02:41 PM (HLcYU)
Posted by: A Frog in a Pot at January 04, 2016 02:42 PM (8ZskC)
He would not have been able to transfer those weapons to that guy without a background check, you see?
The system works.
Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (6sTpM)
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (oDCMR)
I recall some saying along the line of: "if it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up."
Posted by: Country Singer at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (GUBah)
I believe Tam coined that quote.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (fWAjv)
BTW: God bless Greg Abbott.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (iIzG7)
Anti-gun groups use them to gin up outrage about firearms.
And why is Valerie Jarrett speaking at it?
Probably at the behest of the President, who wishes to gin up outrage about firearms
What does she have to do with it?
She is closely associated with Obama and his political agenda, which, in this case, means ginning up outrage about firearms
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to have the principal or a local pastor speak?
No, because then Obama couldn't gin up outrage about firearms
And why is she speaking on behalf of the President?
To carry out his desire to gin up outrage about firearms
Did she get elected to something while I wasn't looking?
No, but she is Obama's chief advisor, who he sometimes sends out to further his political agenda
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 04, 2016 02:32 PM (dFi94)
Hope this helps!
Posted by: OregonMuse at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (OBp0J)
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (q/kmn)
They lived closer to starvation. Most people self medicated with alcohol to get through tough days.
Posted by: scorecard at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (1uTkE)
Why do you think they used such ambiguous language?
'Shall not be infringed'...I mean, can you get any more vague than that?
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 02:41 PM (HLcYU)
The problem language is the "well regulated militia" part. Yes, I'm well aware that it doesn't mean what the prog left says it means. However, I think if the Founders had any idea how that language was going to be deliberately perverted and misinterpreted, they would have left it out.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (9Gul7)
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (ZWRoJ)
"What the president is focused on in the context of this exercise is very directly on what steps this administration can take to keep guns out of the wrong hands. And we're not under the illusion that that is going to prevent every incident of gun violence. But if it's possible that we could prevent even one or two incidents of gun violence, then we're going to eagerly implement those executive actions, and that's exactly what the president's focused on."
If it saves just one life, it'll be worth tearing up the constitution for.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at January 04, 2016 02:36 PM
Can you wait #TwoWeeks?
Posted by: Caitlynn Jenner at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (fbovC)
It's not long, it's not complicated and it's in English.
I'd be more impressed with a course that covers the menu at Denny's. That's at least somewhat complex.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 02:39 PM (Xd2w5)
Don't be silly, the Denny's menu has pictures.
Now if you had said the menu of some fancy french restaurant, I would agree. Those places, you order something, and next thing you know they're bringing out a bowl full of snot-covered snails.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Devo at January 04, 2016 02:45 PM (4nmNX)
Just not the American one, the one with, you know, limits on what the government can do.
Whichever one he studied says, "I can do whatever I want, DAD!"
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 04, 2016 02:45 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (mf5HN)
Appropriate response.
Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2016 02:45 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Devo at January 04, 2016 02:45 PM (4nmNX)
So... yes.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: steevy at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (Nwg0u)
Forget it, Jake. It's Connecticut town. They kept reelecting Piss Dodd, so everything is up for grabs.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (t2KH5)
Obama's DOJ are the evil SOBs who created this clusterfuck in Oregon.
Posted by: SCOTUS at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (GZ6Pf)
Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: So . . . at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (ZWRoJ)
Doesn't matter. Progressives pull this stuff out of their asses. They would have come up with different but just as asinine reasoning if the words were different or missing. Constitutions and contracts only work with honest people.
Posted by: scorecard at January 04, 2016 02:46 PM (1uTkE)
So I'm saying it's worse, in some ways (!!11!!ELEVENTY!!) because King George wasn't acting alone-- he had support and help (not just silence) from his assembly.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 04, 2016 02:47 PM (zgHLA)
While true in theory, the executive branch uses these orders to decide how law that congress passes will be implemented and enforced.
Properly used executive orders are simply the chief executive directing the various agencies how to proceed. That's perfectly valid and proper; its just that for a long time now, they've also been used to impose and create law, which is absolutely not valid and proper.
For example, the president can direct the FBI to use resources more in one area than another, or to direct their attention more vigorously to one crime than others. That's valid and is done in all law enforcement. But the constitution does not allow the president to direct the FBI to lean on citizens because they hold political viewpoints that he doesn't care for.
In this case, the executive order is only applying to BATF, but through that, every gun seller is affected.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 02:47 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: DaveA (I love science allegorically) at January 04, 2016 02:47 PM (DL2i+)
Also, good news everyone. Twitter is also going to crack down on "hate speech". Of course, you know what speech will be considered hate.
Posted by: Lauren at January 04, 2016 02:48 PM (GZ6Pf)
Posted by: alexthechick - Here SMOD SMOD SMOD at January 04, 2016 02:26 PM (mf5HN)
*types*
And it's not even plugged in
*deletes*
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:48 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:48 PM (fWAjv)
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Thanks Oregon Muse. I know there are at least a couple of parents in that group who are pro-gun ownership. I wonder how they feel about the deaths of their children being used as a political ploy.
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 04, 2016 02:48 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:48 PM (fWAjv)
Has to be. I read the above and kept thinking I was missing the catch.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (LA7Cm)
Jeb Bush called Obama's possible use of an executive order "completely inappropriate."
Well, there's some stirring words to make the people rise up and rush to the barricades.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (Ltj2h)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (kpqmD)
Ben Franklin would be swatting everyone with his cane.
"You didn't keep it!!!"
Then go to a bar to pick up easy hipster chicks.
Posted by: LizLem at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: The Republican Majority at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (j/0iw)
If a Democrat wins, the inevitable SCOTUS ruling lands on his/her
lap. Obama is seen as the Democrat who tried to "do something" and
won't get tarnished by its failure.
All Obama cares about is the appearance of trying to do something so
as to burnish his legacy. He doesn't care if it actually works...he
only cares if he can sell it as a positive.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 02:41 PM (eytER)
I would not hold my breath on that first part.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 04, 2016 02:50 PM (q/kmn)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:50 PM (kff5f)
I would assume that this would be applied after the fact as harassment. So, not during the transaction, but when something happens later that draws the attention to you being in possession of a gun in which its purchase didn't generate a background check - does this sound right? Sorta like a hate crime where they just pile on extra charges when/if you break another law.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 02:50 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: MTF at January 04, 2016 02:50 PM (TxJGV)
"You didn't keep it!!!"
Then go to a bar to pick up easy hipster chicks.
Posted by: LizLem at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (hvf9s)
Heh. Yes. Yes he would.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: An Observation at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (x3Hgm)
_______________________________
When the words "act alone" appear in an article when referring to the President of the United States, that's the only part of the story they should be investigating.
It's also known as unconstitutional, unlawful and void on its face.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (YqcVw)
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (Ltj2h)
Like I said in the thread below, thank God for fracking.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (RD7QR)
Air-traffic controllers are far too important to Americans' safety to be subjected to unconstitutional race-based hiring in the name of "diversity." It's a shame the Federal Aviation Administration doesn't see it that way.
In fact, the Obama administration is throwing out basic competency tests in hiring air-traffic controllers so they can diversify the field - and put us all at risk.
http://tinyurl.com/j8l2lcz
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: The Republican Majority at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (j/0iw)
ISWYDT.
Also: "Yeah. Like a kidney stone."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (kff5f)
Therefore, needing our weapons to defend against this mortal threat, we shan't be complying with your silly diktat.
Also, fuck you, you pin-headed goat-felching batshit insane fucktard.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (t8P62)
On a par with wearing white shoes after Labor Day, or putting ice cubes in red wine.
Inappropriate, my ass. Any words softer than "traiterous" are, well, inappropriate.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 02:52 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 02:52 PM (2x3L+)
The "if someone wants to take your guns get your buddies and go shoot them" was too informal.
Posted by: DaveA (I love science allegorically) at January 04, 2016 02:52 PM (DL2i+)
Fun Fact: Got into a dust up here last year with someone who insisted we didn't have to worry about Obama and guns because of the adamantine shield of Heller, Settled Law and a Republican controlled Congress.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 02:52 PM (kdS6q)
This of course is not about stopping crime or criminals, its just to help keep the database of which law abiding people have guns.
The left still has dreams of disarming the public, so they can use their tyranny to create a leftist utopia.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 04, 2016 02:52 PM (ODxAs)
I mean... if it'll save "just one life" right?
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:44 PM (kff5f)
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The progs have been working on that. If they keep any kind of national power, they'll try it sooner or later.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2016 02:53 PM (Fmupd)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 02:53 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Sharkman at January 04, 2016 02:51 PM (t8P62)
===============================================
That's kind of catchy. Set it to music and BOOM instant classic.
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 04, 2016 02:53 PM (dFi94)
Of course in places like Shitcago where Holder et al run extra guns in to supplement the black market you don't need no stinking check if you have street connections.
Posted by: PaleRider at January 04, 2016 02:53 PM (chkUd)
Posted by: Lady in Black....sigh at January 04, 2016 02:53 PM (pVkEV)
Whatever though, moar college for everyone!
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 04, 2016 02:54 PM (q/kmn)
A$$hole.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 02:54 PM (NOIQH)
If you have ten guns and the government tells you to turn in eight of your guns, how many do you have left?
Ten.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 04, 2016 02:54 PM (ptqRm)
138 Why are there still vigils to the slain at Newtown?
________________________
Because it's nice and safe there.
It's too dangerous to have vigils in Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit and St. Louis.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 04, 2016 02:54 PM (YqcVw)
Posted by: Lance McCormick at January 04, 2016 02:47 PM (zgHLA)
The colonists were unpersons to the British, rustics inferior to proper British society in every way. Only there to support their society, not actively engage in it.
Far too easy nowadays to relate to the revolutionary colonists' feelings.
Posted by: LizLem at January 04, 2016 02:54 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: scorecard at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (1uTkE)
The alcohol part I understand.
Starvation ? No
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at January 04, 2016 02:55 PM (QPdNE)
These are the same people that think 500 bullets and three guns is an 'arsenal'
I would hate to see what they consider as 'high-volume' gun sales. Probably 5 per year
Then again - thats their intent.
Posted by: McCool at January 04, 2016 02:55 PM (nCSwS)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 02:55 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 02:55 PM (eytER)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 02:55 PM (qSIlh)
Nah, he'll do what Venezuela just did, and wait and see how the votes tally. Then, if the vote count doesn't go his way, he'll find a judge to invalidate the election until we can sort out the problems Obama will have to stay on, just until he gets things straightened out.
Hell, he could even have the democrat party machine stuff ballot boxes all over the country and then say the election outcome was based on fraud and we'll need a do over.
Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 02:56 PM (6sTpM)
So if you're buying guns and then selling them within a few months regularly, they're going to suspect that your real intent in purchasing the guns is business which would make you a dealer. On the other hand if you occasionally buy a sale lot of guns at an auction and keep the one or two that you want and sell off the rest, you're likely okay since arguably the intent is to enhance to enhance your collection rather than engage in business.
Posted by: Maetenloch at January 04, 2016 02:57 PM (pAlYe)
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 02:57 PM (Ltj2h)
Gotta hate somebody pretty bad to put them in a job they're not ready for where they'll wind up with a planeload of dead on their conscience.
Posted by: DaveA (I love science allegorically) at January 04, 2016 02:57 PM (DL2i+)
A collector divesting can easily hit those numbers, and he's just some schlub trying to liquidate so he can start transferring wealth to avoid inheritance ta... oh, wait a minute...
Posted by: Chupacabra at January 04, 2016 02:57 PM (q/kmn)
That's the thing. They know it has nothing to do with gun shows. It's not even a "loophole" which is an inadvertent "out" created by vagueness of language. This is a deliberate exemption on private transfers of gun ownership. It exists very specifically to allow me to sell guns to my neighbor (or, indeed, buy them from some guy in a van) on an occasional basis.
Even then, it has to be an in-state transfer. Personal transfers across state borders require an FFL - and the FFL dealer will run a background check.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 02:57 PM (kff5f)
In fact, the Obama administration is throwing out basic competency tests in hiring air-traffic controllers so they can diversify the field - and put us all at risk.
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Hmmmm. I wonder if the if-it-saves-one-airliner standard will apply here.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 02:57 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2016 02:58 PM (493sH)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 02:58 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 02:41 PM (HLcYU
Playing devil's advocate, militia baby
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:58 PM (voOPb)
Another "win" for his legacy and a fake anti-gun trophy to hang in his museum.
Loser.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 02:58 PM (iONHu)
And why would Barry ? He's lived overseas and in Hawaii, before going to Ivy League schools. Afterward he lives in Chicago.
He simply does not understand the mentality of rural American men ... enough of whom simply are not interested in the political art of the deal. To those men, and there are more than all the alphabet agencies combined can stop, guns will simply not be surrendered.
And more in more, in rural areas, they're not shy about inviting the fight. And they're largely supported by their local LEOs.
He's overplayed his hand, he's too self-absorbed to see it, and his complicit media is too afraid to show him.
Why else do you think the Oregon standoff isn't front page news ? Because it's another example of, when opposing numbers are sufficient, the Federal Govt CAN NOT DO A DAMN THING.
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (E7zwb)
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (iIzG7)
______________________
"Soul Plane" coming to an airport near you.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (YqcVw)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2016 02:58 PM (493sH
doesn't the yellow streak down their back void the need of a white flag?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: An Observation at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (x3Hgm)
On a par with wearing white shoes after Labor Day, or putting ice cubes in red wine.
Inappropriate, my ass. Any words softer than "traiterous" are, well, inappropriate.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 02:52 PM (iIzG7)
Reminds me of the Norm McDonald prison scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXqCEz8m4aI
Ridiculous!
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: eman at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (mR7Es)
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 04, 2016 03:00 PM (9Gul7)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 03:00 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 04, 2016 02:58 PM (493sH)
What do you mean? They never took it down.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 03:00 PM (kpqmD)
Given that Gov Abbott of Texas is telling Obama where to stick it, I figure that an early challenge could come from there.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2016 03:00 PM (LWW4k)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 04, 2016 03:00 PM (Dj0WE)
I recall some saying along the line of: "if it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up."
Posted by: Country Singer at January 04, 2016 02:35 PM (GUBah)
I believe Tam coined that quote.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 02:43 PM (fWAjv)
I should point out that the most important role of buried weapons is to replace the ones the JBTs pulled from your safe when you were out at work and unable to directly resist. Safer to wait until you leave the house y'know.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 03:01 PM (j4wsR)
Jeb Bush called Obama's possible use of an executive order "completely inappropriate."
Well, there's some stirring words to make the people rise up and rush to the barricades.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (kdS6q)
....
Such a f@#$@#$ turd that guy is.
Posted by: Hawkins1701 at January 04, 2016 03:01 PM (TZYqp)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:01 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at January 04, 2016 03:01 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at January 04, 2016 03:01 PM (4KoRb)
There's a video of a cashier in Finland who keeps fighting with all the Muzzies who she catches shoplifting, They're not even trying to conceal the theft - they just walk out with stuff and she fights with them and takes it back.
Coming soon to the U S of A !
Posted by: McCool at January 04, 2016 03:02 PM (nCSwS)
Posted by: redbanzai at January 04, 2016 03:02 PM (OrI3J)
The progs have been working on that. If they keep any kind of national power, they'll try it sooner or later.
Posted by: Soona at January 04, 2016 02:53 PM (Fmupd
You thought the bridge to nowhere was bad, wait until you get the train to nowhere.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 03:02 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 03:00 PM (Nwg0u)
Either way, I'm a-shootin' the dog!
I'M AFEARED FER MUH LIFE! YEE HAW!
*BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
*BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
*BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
*click*
Posted by: Friendly neighborhood cop at January 04, 2016 03:03 PM (kpqmD)
My theory is that the 5th Circuit stays this under the same theory as
his immigration changes, which is that he's admitted he is unilaterally
changing the law rather than changing a federal policy.
Given that Gov Abbott of Texas is telling Obama where to stick it, I figure that an early challenge could come from there.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at January 04, 2016 03:00 PM (LWW4k)
Don't forget that he is totally ignoring that federal judge in TX and the judge is doing nothing about it.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:03 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 04, 2016 03:03 PM (2lndx)
Well... no. Not exactly.
What he's really doing is (once again) acting in an unconstitutional manner in order to impose on an unwilling populace what their democratically elected representatives are not willing (for a plethora of reasons (and possibly pinatas)) to impose.
By doing so without opposition he's also setting the stage for yet more imperial actions and making it easier for most Americans to see the President as the head of Government, rather than simply the head of the Executive Branch of government.
And that's a very bad thing, however minor (in practical terms) this particular violation may be.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:03 PM (kff5f)
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I would not hold my breath on that first part.
Yeah, me either. Republicans don't ever reverse or fix the damage, they just slow its advance. The only Republican in my lifetime that actually drove back the leftist march of executive orders was George Bush the younger. And he only did it on social issues like abortion and embryonic stem cell research.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:04 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 04, 2016 03:04 PM (LA7Cm)
Probably stray voltage, hoping to create an anti-gun whirlwind. Even though the violence from their anti-gun efforts like sandy h00k and fast n furious failed to work.
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at January 04, 2016 03:05 PM (9Gul7)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:05 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: redbanzai at January 04, 2016 03:02 PM (OrI3J
Well, a normal & rational person would think that.
But we live in emotional days now.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 03:05 PM (voOPb)
"Why? I don't like guns."
"For the loophole, of course."
"What's the loophole?"
"The gunshow loophole is where something that would normally be illegal is now legal in a gunshow."
"Wow! Anything?"
*nods* "Anything and everything!"
"Plutonium?"
'Legal!"
"Cockfighting?"
"Legal!"
"Shooting heroin into our eyeballs?"
"Oh so legal!"
"Whee! I love the Gunshow and its loophole!"
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:05 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 04, 2016 03:06 PM (kpqmD)
"Interesting Times" are........ interesting.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at January 04, 2016 03:06 PM (McRlu)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 03:06 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:06 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts
Unhinged! Yeah, that's the ticket! "The right of the people to bear arms shall not be for the unhinged!" Simple scrivener's error.
- Superjustice John the Robert
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 03:06 PM (Nwg0u)
He does not care. He all but signs his EOs with "So let it be written; so let it be done." He's a narcissistic autocrat. The Founders warned us about people like this.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 03:07 PM (iIzG7)
By the way, there's no such thing as a "loophole" in ANY law. It's simply that the Legislative branch didn't intend for the law to apply in that situation. If they did, they'd have written the law differently.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 03:07 PM (j4wsR)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at January 04, 2016 03:07 PM (RD7QR)
You know what else we "deserve" Mr. Speaker? We deserve a Congress which represents the will of the voters instead of thumbing its nose at them.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:07 PM (kff5f)
Nevertheless, His Republican Majority will fully fund it.
Posted by: V the K at January 04, 2016 03:07 PM (O7MnT)
Jeb Bush called Obama's possible use of an executive order "completely inappropriate."
Well, there's some stirring words to make the people rise up and rush to the barricades.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 02:49 PM (kdS6q)
....
Such a f@#$@#$ turd that guy is.
Posted by: Hawkins1701 at January 04, 2016 03:01 PM (TZYqp)
Sounds like high energy to me.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at January 04, 2016 03:07 PM (voOPb)
Silly RethugliKKKan conservitards, your consent is no longer necessary.
Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at January 04, 2016 03:08 PM (k/wT0)
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Unfortunately it will likely be exactly "like this". Unless you believe there is still actually something conservative about the Republican party.
Posted by: Mega at January 04, 2016 03:08 PM (9Du4t)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at January 04, 2016 03:08 PM (L8slQ)
Like I need another reason not to fly anywhere.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at January 04, 2016 03:08 PM (4nmNX)
Posted by: redbanzai at January 04, 2016 03:02 PM (OrI3J)
Sure, but he's still going to do it. He has a pathetic need to be the center of attention, to be the driving force, and right now the attention is fading off of him and onto the 2016 race. You can see his Obama World Tour 2016 the same way.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:08 PM (hLRSq)
What's he going to do? Declaring him to be in contempt is all the power a judge has.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:09 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: rd at January 04, 2016 03:09 PM (Ltj2h)
I saw Cold Dead Eyeball open for Tool at the Cow Palace back in '08.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 03:09 PM (j4wsR)
The bitter clingers comment about us rubes clinging to our guns and bibles defines his entire presidency.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:10 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Vic
It will be defined as that one sale to an undercover or informant.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 04, 2016 03:10 PM (9YDUz)
Go after little fish is about all he could do: start declaring his attorneys and such *also* to be in contempt. He can't have the President arrested, but he can have the others held until the President complies.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:10 PM (kff5f)
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Makes news. i.e. trolling. Inflames the rubes in Oregon, who might even be agent provocateur.
He needs a crisis du jour and needs to keep Iran/Saudi Arabia out of the news headlines.
He's been going on and on about how he is going to do an Executive Order since Christmas or longer, and all he is doing is trying to redefine what it means to be in the business of selling firearms.
We've got Trouble, right here in River City, and that rhymes with P and that stands for pool.
Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 03:10 PM (6sTpM)
It does. And the founding fathers told us that any law or action which contradicts the US Constitution is invalid and nonexistent. We have a duty to not just ignore it but to refuse to comply.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:10 PM (39g3+)
Except pot, right? That they've decided to legalize - numb the masses.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 04, 2016 03:10 PM (NOIQH)
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Well maybe we should stop giving the executive the power to write laws then.
Posted by: SH at January 04, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)
I can think of two that benefit ... and one that suffers.
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 03:11 PM (E7zwb)
Posted by: SH at January 04, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)
You mean we should end the delegation doctrine? That's just crazy talk.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:12 PM (kff5f)
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Well maybe we should stop appropriating funds to executive departments that reverse legislation.
Posted by: SH at January 04, 2016 03:12 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 03:11 PM (E7zwb)
I know who this benefits. That's right, you all know who.
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at January 04, 2016 03:12 PM (kpqmD)
Actually, I'm thinking that they're going to expand background checks to Curio and Relic 03 FFLs. Remember, among other things they cited people buying/selling as a HOBBY.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 03:12 PM (j4wsR)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 04, 2016 03:12 PM (A9KzJ)
And then what? The Justice department would be tasked with arresting or dealing with these people. Obama's justice department, run by Holder in drag.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:13 PM (39g3+)
But hey, impeachment is off the table so ...
Posted by: The MFM at January 04, 2016 03:13 PM (evdj2)
Is Cabela's a candidate? 'Cause they're profiting, big time.
I'd say Cruz; he likes him some guns, and I'd enjoy hearing his reaction to this.
Posted by: Qoheleth at January 04, 2016 03:13 PM (iIzG7)
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Thank you. I don't always get a the respect I deserve for judicial review from conservatives.
Posted by: Zombie Chief Justice Marshall at January 04, 2016 03:14 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 03:14 PM (E7zwb)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:14 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:14 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: steevy at January 04, 2016 03:14 PM (8HTq1)
I know he won't do the first one and I'm pretty sure he do the last one either.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 04, 2016 03:15 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at January 04, 2016 03:15 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: DaveA (I love science allegorically) at January 04, 2016 03:15 PM (DL2i+)
Well... since one of those is off the table...
Seriously, though, the only reason we "can't" impeach the SCOAMT is that Republicans refuse to do the hard work of battle-space preparation. You don't just come out one day and impeach him- you engage in concentrated attacks on some of his most egregious violations of the constitution (this is a good one, in point of fact) until you start moving public opinion. THEN you impeach him.
Of course, it's probably too late now, but they could have done it starting in 2013 with Benghazi, if they'd been willing. But the DOPe only wants to be *seen* as opposing TFG. They don't actually want to oppose him.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:15 PM (kff5f)
Unimpeachable
That's what I are
Unimpeachable
Tho' near or far
Like a bad odor of love that clings to me
How my hate for you does things to me
Never before
Has someone been more...
Unimpeachable
Posted by: Dildobama at January 04, 2016 03:15 PM (HgMAr)
It would seem his EO is invalid before it is released if it directly contradicts legislation.
Posted by: redbanzai
Congress passes the law, President executes. Congress don't like how he's doing that, they get to sue him over the always iffy "original intent", impeach or threaten him with passage of new legislation, funding and such.
Of course, since the GOP decided to fund the Federal government for the rest of Obama's term, not much of a threat there.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:16 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:16 PM (evdj2)
Seen this show before. Nine years of war, nine years of global prosperity, nine years of very few acts of terror on the west.
* files nails and whistles a happy tune *
Posted by: free range jihadist at January 04, 2016 03:16 PM (fbovC)
I believe we have a new abbreviation.
Posted by: An Observation at January 04, 2016 02:59 PM (x3Hgm)
Rhymes with???
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:16 PM (fWAjv)
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He's going to hold his breath until his face turns blue.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 04, 2016 03:16 PM (Nwg0u)
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THEY WAS CHUGG-ALUGGIN COUGH REMEDIES WITH 3 YEAR OLDS !!!
Posted by: Bigby's Butterfingers at January 04, 2016 03:17 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:01 PM (2x3L+)
I was talking to a guy in law enforcement the other day and he said his department head has said the same.
I think things could potentially get really messy if they try to enforce it without local support.
Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2016 03:17 PM (lIU4e)
"Scuse me Hill." *bumps Hillary off the stage and grabs the mike*
"Hi there everybody, it's me, Barack Obama! I know you came here for the Hillary rally, but I need to tell you something important."
*kicks Hillary in the face as she climbs back on stage, knocks her back into the orchestra pit*
"My new executive orders. First, I have banned micro-aggressions."
*starts struggling as Hillary grabs hold of his arm*
"Second, I am going to OUCH!"
*Hillary bites down on his arm, he twists an ear and peels her off*
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:17 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Old China Hand at January 04, 2016 03:18 PM (6gR7l)
"Why are there even Con Law classes in the first place? It's not long, it's not complicated and it's in English."
Emanations. Penumbras.
Posted by: torquewrench at January 04, 2016 03:18 PM (noWW6)
Because I don't think that shit flies again.
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 03:19 PM (E7zwb)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: zzdawg at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (evdj2)
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Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (g8Hfr)
"And we must really wait to see just what it is he proposes, because we might have to do something and that's the last thing we need to do now."
Posted by: REV DR E BUZZ Esq at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (1CJDP)
I'd say Cruz; he likes him some guns, and I'd enjoy hearing his reaction to this.
Posted by: Qoheleth
Unless Cruz is grabbing someone from the House and drafting articles of impeachment, he ain't doing d1ck. Same goes for Rubio.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (kdS6q)
I think things could potentially get really messy if they try to enforce it without local support.
Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2016 03:17 PM (lIU4e)
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Oh, hell yeah. Especially in small towns where people are well armed. The cops have to live in those towns and everyone knows them and their kids. They will not submit.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Paul Ryan at January 04, 2016 03:21 PM (f7rv6)
Because I don't think that shit flies again.
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 03:19 PM (E7zwb)
No no .gov!!!
Please don't shut down and make 95 traffic
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (fWAjv)
"But we're ok with it right now, because we know that in a few weeks no one will remember this stuff and we can get on with the business of stuffing our pockets and fucking over the people who "voted" us in. Thank you, no further questions."
Posted by: REV DR E BUZZ Esq at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (1CJDP)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (evdj2)
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Makes news. i.e. trolling. Inflames the rubes in Oregon, who might even be agent provocateur.
He needs a crisis du jour and needs to keep Iran/Saudi Arabia out of the news headlines.
He's been going on and on about how he is going to do an Executive
Order since Christmas or longer, and all he is doing is trying to
redefine what it means to be in the business of selling firearms.
We've got Trouble, right here in River City, and that rhymes with P and that stands for pool.
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.He gets to brag to everyone that He did something about the gun problem while Congress refused to act because of the NRA.
Everything he does now is for his fake A$$ legacy and library. He doesn't care about anything else, it is all about him now and screw the Democrats. He does not care one bit that Hillary is going to have to defend this move and that it is going to hurt her in the General.
In his mind he is the one who single handily took on the NRA and beat them by issuing this EO while everyone else was cowering in fear.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (iONHu)
I strongly doubt you'd be so eager if you had the slightest inkling of what such a thing would mean. You have this movie playing in your head, complete with a plot and a point and heroes and bad guys. Then there is reality, the way things will really play out if wego from ballots to bullets. As it happens, Reality is a vicious, cruel bitch, and she always wins.
Posted by: troyriser at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (UWlp+)
What the hell do you mean, "failure"?????
FU, Ryan
Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (evdj2)
Hugh Janus?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (vgIRn)
Do we have any Limey Morons? Because I'm thinking this guy might fit in.
Via Insty
Man infuriates ex-partners by putting them all into a group chat
http://tinyurl.com/hbcrxcm
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 03:23 PM (j4wsR)
Nope, can't have that can we now.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at January 04, 2016 03:23 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:20
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Yeah, they're both talkers. I really want to like Cruz but he sounds like he's lying to me. He just seems weak and ineffective.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:24 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: garrett at January 04, 2016 03:24 PM (HLcYU)
Yers, yes far better to allow cabals of IT billionaires and Media Moguls the dismantling of the US' freedoms.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 04, 2016 03:24 PM (g8Hfr)
One word: Sarajevo.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:24 PM (evdj2)
What's really going to be fun is Friday morning, after Obama tells us what's he's going to do, and the GOP congress and their shills flood out to tell us why they can't doing anything now and the only solution to to elect more Republicans.
Gonna be murder on the dance-floor.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:24 PM (kdS6q)
Nope.... its about changing the news cycle to something else...
Stock Markets tanking because you can only lie about the economy for so long...
And Mid East is about to go nuclear... in a Shiite Sunni Cage Match...
And Hillary... sucks.... Trump gets all the Press...
So..... Gun control.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:25 PM (f7rv6)
Do we have any Limey Morons? Because I'm thinking this guy might fit in.
Via Insty
Man infuriates ex-partners by putting them all into a group chat
http://tinyurl.com/hbcrxcm
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 03:23 PM (j4wsR)
That's hysterical. Gemma seems the cool one of the bunch.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at January 04, 2016 03:25 PM (kpqmD)
And who will save us from this? Jeb? Marco? Christie?
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 03:25 PM (PFy0L)
http://tinyurl.com/gl8yhsa
*just went up a couple more points.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:26 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 04, 2016 03:26 PM (6sTpM)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:09 PM (39g3+)
The judge can hold the head of the department in contempt and jail him for as long as he wants.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:26 PM (t2KH5)
Bosnia solved a lot of illusions...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 04, 2016 03:26 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04,
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Yeah, I gotta get outta here before I put in writing what I'm thinking.
Bye you guys.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:26 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: REV DR E BUZZ Esq at January 04, 2016 03:27 PM (1CJDP)
Yeah.... but who knew that the new Bunker Hill would be in the Northwest...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:27 PM (f7rv6)
Aye, and there's the rub.
Anyone with the morals God gave a cat doesn't want a war, because we know that "war is Hell" (in the abstract, most of us; by personal experience, those who have served) and we don't want to pay that price.
On the other hand, by continually choosing *not* to pay that price, we simply acquiesce to the continual erosion of our Liberty. At some point we may decide the price is finally high enough to pay - only to find out we're not capable of paying the price any longer.
And, no, I don't have an answer for that.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:27 PM (kff5f)
Happy times upon you Elle...
Giggles is gonna shred as much liberty and separation of powers as possible the next 12 months...
"Happy Holidays"
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 04, 2016 03:28 PM (g8Hfr)
No president should be able to reverse legislative failure by executive fiat, not even incrementally.
What the hell do you mean, "failure"?????
Posted by: Tex Lovera
> Full quote indicates Ryan means Obama's legislative failure to have the law written or amended as he wished
FU, Ryan
> Hmmm -- I'll allow it.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:28 PM (kdS6q)
Well maybe we should stop giving the executive the power to write laws then.
Posted by: SH at January 04, 2016 03:11 PM (gmeXX)
Nobody has ever given them that power unless you mean by the Republicans taking impeachment off the table.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:28 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:28 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Breeds Hill at January 04, 2016 03:29 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:26 PM (t2KH5)
And just who will ENFORCE said order?
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:29 PM (f7rv6)
>>>> This whole thread is ban bait, or worse.
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04,
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Yeah, I gotta get outta here before I put in writing what I'm thinking.
Bye you guys.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:26 PM (2x3L+)
............................
Back to the Grannie Splatter in Space thread!
Posted by: wth at January 04, 2016 03:29 PM (HgMAr)
Anytime the Justice Department hands a gun over to a Mexican drug lord, aren't they supposed to have done a check?
How about local police, every time they solicit gun turn in programs? Each time an individual hands over a gun to the local cops shouldn't a check be run on the cops administering the program?
Posted by: MTF at January 04, 2016 03:29 PM (TxJGV)
Wonder if they are going for the universal bakround checks?
Don't see how that would stand short of a corrupt judiciary.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Whale at January 04, 2016 03:29 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Grump928(c) says Free Sooth! at January 04, 2016 03:22 PM (evdj2)
Yep. Held back from typing even innocent things.... at least I could say they are innocent but why give ace the headache.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:30 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (2x3L+)
Hell, we have this 'pseudo' open carry rule now, and some sheriff (?) in a small town decided to arrest someone for open carry...they went after him. I think some people vandalized his car? It was crazy.
Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2016 03:30 PM (lIU4e)
"I'm sorry, you're here to confiscate what? Well, um, we have to go get a background check done on you first....."
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 03:30 PM (PFy0L)
Sure as hell not the Supreme Court. BOTH Kennedy and Roberts rubber-stamped that shit.
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 03:31 PM (Xd2w5)
That bastard and dog eater is making it hard for us and it's only the first week of January.
I hope you and the wife and kids are well. Try to be happy.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:31 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at January 04, 2016 03:24 PM (g8Hfr)
I suggest not acting like a pack of hysterics. We've had bad Presidents before. And a corrupt, go-along and get-along Congress. And scheming millionaires and billionaires working behind the scenes. All of it.
Look, we'll either work it out or we won't.The last example of notpeacefully working it outresulted in a bloody cataclysm--and some of you are wishing for a repeat. Get a grip.
Posted by: troyriser at January 04, 2016 03:32 PM (UWlp+)
http://tinyurl.com/hbcrxcm
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 04, 2016 03:23 PM (j4wsR)
Before reading i thought it was going to be 'business partners.'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:32 PM (fWAjv)
Nobody has ever given them that power unless you mean by the Republicans taking impeachment off the table.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at January 04, 2016 03:28 PM (t2KH5)
Sorry, Vic, but you're wrong. Executive "regulation" has the full force of US Law- including the ability to set penalties including imprisonment. ACA was a prime example of this: "We want this law to do some stuff, but we'll let the Secretary of Health and Human Services figure out what, exactly."
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:32 PM (kff5f)
If you find yourself to be president and you have a congress filled with wimps, take advantage of it. Change the country to fit your vision regardless of some old documents that people argue over.
Same thing in the congress. When the rules favor you, follow them. When they don't, ignore them. This has worked well for the democrats for decades. They win using this practice and they should, because we're too fucking stupid to do the same.
Declare the Consititution unconstitutional. And racist. Who is going to stop them? Certainly not the people we've elected.
Fuck. If we only could have got Mike Castle in.
Posted by: jwest at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: torabora at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (Tq5WM)
"To me! To fabulous, wonderful me!"
*scampers and capers about*
"It's all about me,
All and all about me,
Everywhere that I go,
I steal the show,
Cause I'm me!
It's all about me!"
Posted by: Mikey NTH - SMOD The Destroyer Of SCOAMFs now at the Outrage Outlet! at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: L, Elle at January 04, 2016 03:20 PM (2x3L+)
Hell, we have this 'pseudo' open carry rule now, and some sheriff (?) in a small town decided to arrest someone for open carry...they went after him. I think some people vandalized his car? It was crazy.
Posted by: Lea at January 04, 2016 03:30 PM (lIU4e)
Which is why they will try to enforce it with Federal Cops...
ATF and such will be bused into an area to do raids.
Add in National Guard perhaps.... who has ALREADY done gun confiscation during Katrina?
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 03:33 PM (PFy0L)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: AmishDude at January 04, 2016 03:31 PM (Xd2w5)<<<
Trying to stop him would be too taxing.
Posted by: Chief Justass Roberts at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: despair at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (VrdxH)
Islamic Reformation?
Posted by: free range jihadist at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (fbovC)
Obama will be joined by CNNs Anderson Cooper at the George Mason University in Virginia at an event entitled Guns in America. The show will begin at 8 P.M. on Thursday, and is scheduled to coincide with the fifth anniversary of the Tucson, Arizona shooting that left six people dead and 14 people injured, including then-Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
Gee -- remember that? Where the GOP folded hard because one of their own caught a bullet. Recall the SOTU with Republicans and Democrats pairing up to walk down the aisle. And Congress was only prevented from giving in legislatively on guns by massive popular resistance.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 04, 2016 03:35 PM (kdS6q)
"We won't shut down the junta!"
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You left out Roberts - a junta is a tax!
Posted by: Puddin Head at January 04, 2016 03:35 PM (oDCMR)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at January 04, 2016 03:32 PM (kff5f)
Exhibit 2? I give you... the EPA... who rights not only its own rules, but also decides how much to punish you... all without Courts being involved...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:35 PM (f7rv6)
any?), changed the legal wording of Obamacare more than once. He makes
laws by changing those words. He is legislating. Nobody who can will
stop him, apparently. He's free to act illegally, and he knows it.
Sure as hell not the Supreme Court. BOTH Kennedy and Roberts rubber-stamped that shit.
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.That was all done because Pelosi and Reid wrote the law so he could do that. There are eleventy!!!111gazillion "and the Secretary shall determine/implement" clauses in Obamacare. That was all done on purpose because they knew it was a $hitty law to begin with.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 03:36 PM (iONHu)
Every day it seems like the sheriffs of America are being forced to defy the federal government and stand for freedom more and more.
Which is why they will try to enforce it with Federal Cops
They don't have enough and they know it. All they can do is make some high profile raids and noise in areas, but the nation is too big, too populated, and too scattered for feds to handle.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: free range jihadist at January 04, 2016 03:34 PM (fbovC)
Laughs...
More like the Henry the 8th and the Catholic Church... we're in for a couple hundred years of wars.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:37 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at January 04, 2016 03:30 PM (PFy0L)
*golf clap*
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:37 PM (fWAjv)
So is that beard, Johnny Dangerous.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 03:38 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 04, 2016 03:39 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:36 PM (39g3+)
the interesting thing will be the Philisophical battle...
Conservatives will, by a large majority, support Law and Order....
Obama is COUNTING on it... he is counting on people to say 'we can change it later'... 'follow the law'... 'think of the consequences'....
Just like some on this very thread have done.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:39 PM (f7rv6)
http://tinyurl.com/znyc8jk
VA GOP to Undo AG's Anti-Gun Policy with National Reciprocity Legislation
For example, Guns.com reports that Delegate Lee Ware (R-Dist 65) is pushing legislation to recognize concealed carry permits from every state, thereby rendering Herring's actions null and void. And Breitbart News previously reported that state Senator Bill Carrico (R-Dist 40) is striking back by pushing an amendment to defund Governor Terry McAuliffe's (D) protective detail.
Pass both.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA -@DMS1974 at January 04, 2016 03:40 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: thought no girl ever at January 04, 2016 03:43 PM (HgMAr)
Conservatives will, by a large majority, support Law and Order....
Obama is COUNTING on it... he is counting on people to say 'we can
change it later'... 'follow the law'... 'think of the consequences'....
Just like some on this very thread have done.
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.I am going to have to disagree with you on this one. Conservatives most certainly do not support Law and Order when the orders are illegal. Case in point Connecticut and New York on their recent Assault Weapons ban and mandatory registration. Less than 20% compliance in each State directly contradicts your argument. An estimated 50,000+ people in CT alone decided to become overnight felons by refusing to comply with the new laws.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 04, 2016 03:43 PM (iONHu)
Conservatives will, by a large majority, support Law and Order....
There's a case to be said for competing "law and order". It would be easier if the whole "sovereign citizen" community hadn't buggered up the arguments and tossed it into disrepute.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at January 04, 2016 03:43 PM (9krrF)
to say 'we can change it later'... 'follow the law'... 'think of the
consequences'....
Just like some on this very thread have done.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 03:39 PM
Seems to have worked for him for the past seven years.
A lot of people -- from Poppin' Fresh to the most infrequent commenters on "conservative" sites -- seem to feel that somehow a miracle will occur and Choom Boy will suddenly realize that he has been a Bad Boy and should not have done all the heinous, treasonous things he has done.
Yeah, I'm counting on that, too. Also counting on Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny to straighten things out.
While, of course, remembering the howls of anguish when anyone dared to suggest the Mocha Messiah should be impeached.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 04, 2016 03:44 PM (mIvL9)
Cause we were too chickenshit to spill a little blood at the beginning we saw an ocean of it later .
I may have mangled that quote somewhat .
Posted by: awkward davies at January 04, 2016 03:44 PM (mP1RE)
There are more Oath Keepers than you would believe, and there are people with gun and badge that don't join for the sole reason that don't want to be on a list.
There are less extreme organizations such as the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA)
http://cspoa.org/
Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 04, 2016 03:45 PM (A9KzJ)
I think we're reaching the limits of how law and order Americans are willing and able to be. And considering an easy, obvious case can be made for how this is not legal to begin with, we'll see.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2016 03:46 PM (39g3+)
Conservatives will, by a large majority, support Law and Order....
All we have left is the "Philosophical Battle."
How many times has Rash Fatblob ranted about Choom Boy's actions? How many times has Rich Lowry criticized him? Or Jonah Goldberg?
If modern-day Conservative Thinkers and Opinion Leaders had been in charge after the attack on Pearl Harbor, we'd still be debating the Japanese assault. And maybe thinking about -- and discussing, endlessly -- the ramifications of fighting back.
Posted by: Mr Scribbler at January 04, 2016 03:49 PM (mIvL9)
when we see that the legal methods of supporting crime and order have been subverted, often by the very people we elect (hi gope!) legally, we get pissed off by the "law" and "order" that is aimed at enslaving us.
Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 04, 2016 03:51 PM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: no good deed at January 04, 2016 03:57 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2016 04:01 PM (fBkaR)
And honestly - have we not already seen one instance (Bundy Ranch) of Federal LEOs getting while the getting was good, in the face of mass resistance ? I think we're going to see it again in Oregon.
troyriser ... You're Concern Status is Noted. But I think the die is cast. But by all means, sit this one out if you think it best.
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (E7zwb)
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 04:10 PM (E7zwb)
Posted by: acethepug at January 04, 2016 04:11 PM (RHPFv)
He is too polite and not mentally tough enough ti understanfd that sometimes you have to say wtf and throw down.
His entire life he's been Class President/Valedictorian of the Marquess of Queensbury School of Pulling Punches Out of Fear that Left Wingers Will Say Mean Things to You.
Yes he has challenged Obama to his face once.
Once. With no follow-up.
I have been a Ryan fan in the past but his Speakership appears to me in flyover country as off to a very slow, halting and weakly-communicated start. I suspect he will be a far less resolute 2A defender than he might claim or appear to be because see above and because he's Third in Line for the Presidency You Guys and Cant Stand Up to Obama or Colbert Will Make Fun of Me.
Posted by: MikeD at January 04, 2016 04:12 PM (uKJIC)
Posted by: Irony at January 04, 2016 04:08 PM (E7zwb)
Note.... during the American Revolution... only about 1/3 were for the Rebellion.... about 1/3 supported the crown... and about 1/3 wanted to not be involved...
Only about 10% were willing to take up arms...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 04, 2016 04:15 PM (f7rv6)
Good grief! but these eunuchs are pathetic.
Posted by: THE big old fat guy at January 04, 2016 04:29 PM (uFW3M)
It specifically tells applicants not to apply if they sell firearms only occasionally and from their own personal possessions.
So they're going to have to redo all those applications and the website and change the entire definition of who is in the business of selling firearms.
I think Obama's just trolling us. He's giggling to himself about how many firearms he can get us bitter clingers to buy whenever he makes any sign of trying to restrict 2A rights.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger 1.0 and All That at January 04, 2016 05:37 PM (Xo1Rt)
The statutory provision cited at the top is the starting point. "Engaged in the business" is defined pretty well as these things go. There's a bit of gray, but that often happens with statutory definitions. So if you're not a full-time gun seller because you have another day job, but you sell a lot of guns each year you're skirting with being an unlicensed FFL and you might find the ATF coming down on your ass.
Lots of statutes have this kind of gray. Sometimes agencies have the authority to issue regulations to give clarification. Sometimes agencies issue non-binding guidance to give clarification. You can also look at the kinds of enforcement actions the agency has taken.
If you get into a fight over this with the ATF, that's when the courts get involved. A court ruling is supposed to have some kind of precedential value.
But this is no place for a Presidential executive order.
If asked as a lawyer
The law that defined "engaged in the business" is the Gun Control Act of 1968. A threshold question is whether or not the ATF is authorized to issue regulations on how to interpret this Act, including what "engaged in the business" means. I presume not, as we'd have
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 04, 2016 05:40 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: jasonj at January 04, 2016 05:41 PM (Uvbw9)
Posted by: Flaccid Member at January 04, 2016 05:49 PM (5fSr7)
Answer: the smell of donations. You have to remember that Ryan ran with Romney who supported as Governor background checks at gun shows - the same thing Obama is going to do. The only thing Ryan and the GOPe cares about in all this, is "How do we profit from this?" Because they don't give a shit about the constitution.
Posted by: doug at January 04, 2016 06:47 PM (J/suI)
Anyone who isn't a Federal agent is a criminal in the eyes of the current Federal Government. That way the can take your stuff and shut you up. Any gun found can be confiscated and anyone along the chain of possession can be arrested and fined. They can criminalize whole families of their political enemies. Their only real problem is that there is no honor among thieves. The reason people like to deal with Christians is that they have less fear of being poisoned, robbed, raped, cheated and lied to by Christians. Bill and Hillary and Obama are not Christians. They are liars, narcissists, and sociopaths (psychopaths?).
Posted by: scorecard at January 04, 2016 08:57 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: J. Locke at January 04, 2016 11:23 PM (AeqWm)
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