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Don't Even Say It! - Niedermeyer's Dead Horse
I've spent the last hour or so strolling through memory lane, looking for the optimism that has escaped me lately. Generally, I'm feeling good about my life, but I'm not feeling good about US, collectively.
So, off to You Tube I went and I landed, naturally, at a slew of Reagan videos: Just what I needed to drift back to the days when our countrymen felt safe in the hands of a competent, secure, genuinely confident leader. The first video I landed on addressed the PATCO strike. In it, President Reagan, Drew Lewis, and William French Smith spoke as a united chorus, and in no uncertain terms, to the illegality of the strike. When asked by a reporter about resorting to "lesser action" against the striking ATCs, Reagan seemed, for a fraction of a second, caught off guard by the notion that the full weight of the law should not be brought to bear. *Sidenote: Why do Lewis and Smith sound like the cast of Dragnet?Next I watched Reagan's remarks regarding the "crime against humanity" that was the "massacre" of 269 innocent men, women, and children. There was no soft language here in describing the murder by the Soviet Union of all aboard KAL flight 007. There was no second-guessing as to whether our own plane might have triggered a legitimate alert. There was no self-loathing on display nor an eagerness to forgive.
The Washington Post, unsurprisingly, in 2014, dredged up this speech in an attempt to justify Obama's own weak-wristed response to Putin. Sure! Reagan sounded tough, but did he stop grain exports to the Soviets?! It's as if because Reagan didn't do everything, Obama is excused from doing anything, including speaking to the nation in clear and precise language about the atrocity and by whom it was committed. As you might expect, George Will makes an appearance in that article. Still, you listen to this and say that this was not a man who was born to lead.In 74 days I will have to go to the precinct and cast a ballot for one of the many assholes who's presently running for office. For some of you the *pull the band-aid off* moment will come even sooner. Not one of the candidates running for the most important office in the world, at a most crucial time in our history, inspires me in the least. I am flabbergasted by those who are utterly committed to one candidate or another and who are loud and proud in their support of him or her. Really?! *tilts head to the side*
Nonetheless, I am impressed by your ability to commit and perhaps I am the wuss for only, kinda sorta, liking a candidate that has little chance at winning the nomination. Still.... Still! Do NOT attempt to persuade me that any one of them is next next Reagan. Don't try to draw parallels to his leadership style, his manner of speaking, his background, or his sense of humor. Just. Don't. Soon enough we will be forced to make a choice and it will be hard enough without the constant reminders of exactly who we AREN'T voting for. Your thoughts?
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Beth M at January 02, 2016 05:57 PM (kiy9d)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2016 05:59 PM (hmbKk)
Posted by: fluffy at January 02, 2016 06:00 PM (AfsKp)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 06:00 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Beth M at January 02, 2016 06:02 PM (kiy9d)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 06:02 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 06:03 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: fluffy at January 02, 2016 06:03 PM (AfsKp)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:03 PM (MQEz6)
I agree with this wholeheartedly. We need strong, capable, dynamic, and honorable leaders now more than at any time since the nation's founding and what we have is just... disappointing, at best. I had hopes that either Walker or Perry mark II with the glasses could be that but no.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:03 PM (39g3+)
Reagan made the Russkis wet their pantskis and we all know where they wound up in short order.
Do they really want to compare President Limpwrist's response to what Reagan did to the Soviets?
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 02, 2016 06:04 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 06:04 PM (1QqHd)
Posted by: fluffy at January 02, 2016 06:04 PM (AfsKp)
My choice is no choice. I don't feel it is a time for choosing between Leftists and Lefties.
Anyway, good luck with your elections.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 02, 2016 06:06 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 06:06 PM (vmMMi)
enough without the constant reminders of exactly who we AREN'T voting
for."
Will who we're voting *against* matter this time?
After how that worked out last time, I didn't think it would.
Posted by: Doomed, like you wouldn't believe at January 02, 2016 06:06 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 06:07 PM (C1Suc)
Jeb, I've read John Quincy Adams and I've read Charles Francis Adams; you, sir, are no Adams.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 06:07 PM (1QqHd)
Reagan failed.
Obama is proof of that.
Something other than Reagan is needed.
Posted by: eman
Do you know the fable of the Changeling?
This is the metaphor of America since the 1980's.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 06:07 PM (+1T7c)
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Bullshit. Go back and watch his farewell address. He laid out exactly what would happen we weren't vigilant and fiercely protective of our liberty. Everything he warned of has come to pass.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:08 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Smokey the Bear at January 02, 2016 06:09 PM (q3OJ4)
Don't try to draw parallels to his leadership style, his manner of
speaking, his background, or his sense of humor.
I remember this period very well. Reagan was a giant compared to Obama, but he did not walk on water. There were times when I cringed at his apparent stumbling and lack of preparation.
Trump is a useful tool. Cruz is probably the best we have, and I can live with that. I'm not looking for perfection. It won't happen. For the time being, I'll go with good enough.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:10 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: A.Smythers, A Celt at January 02, 2016 06:10 PM (HUYQV)
Posted by: Doomed, not trying to be pedantic at January 02, 2016 06:10 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: eleven at January 02, 2016 06:11 PM (qUNWi)
The babypod. A little musical device that a pregnant mother can... uh, put in her naughty bits for the baby to listen to...
I got nothing
http://tinyurl.com/j4hba44
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:11 PM (39g3+)
Anyway, good luck with your elections.
Whatever, dude. Don't complain when you don't like how things work out.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:12 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:12 PM (39g3+)
22 Reagan failed.
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Bullshit. Go back and watch his farewell address. He laid out exactly what would happen we weren't vigilant and fiercely protective of our liberty. Everything he warned of has come to pass.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:08 PM (kTF2Z)
Yeah, he failed. He did not change things enough so that we would not end up right where we are now.
He failed.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:12 PM (MQEz6)
Obama is proof of that.
Something other than Reagan is needed.
You could just as well say God failed.
Posted by: eleven at January 02, 2016 06:12 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:13 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:13 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: eleven at January 02, 2016 06:14 PM (qUNWi)
vigilant and fiercely protective of our liberty. Everything he warned of
has come to pass.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
It's easier to ascribe our problems and sorrows to one man, or a group of men that can be described as villains.
Goldman-Sachs.
George HW Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush
Barack Obama
Wall Street
Hollywood
the Sta-Puft Marshmellow man
But it's us. All of us, collectively and individually. We didn't do enough to protect and preserve our Republic. Sure, Romney and McCain were not ideal, and let us down.
We're too busy, we just want to "live our lives in peace", etc.
If we don't fight HARD for what we want, we're going to lose it to some looter who definitely knows what HE wants.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 06:14 PM (+1T7c)
Janet Napolitano (DHS)
Rahm Emanuel (WH Chief of Staff)
Kevin Jennings (Dept of Education)
Hillary Clinton (State Dept)
Bradley Manning (US Army, Ret.)
John Berry (OPM)
etc.
There's a pattern here. Can't quite put my finger on it...
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2016 06:14 PM (/f6Nd)
No one sees a President as a Titan until all is said and done. It is virtually impossible to do so. Abraham Lincoln very VERY much included in that category. Just check the media of that day.
Just a perspective to keep in mind.
Posted by: Andrew X at January 02, 2016 06:14 PM (AxjF3)
Posted by: @votermom at January 02, 2016 06:15 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (kTF2Z)
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Well, they start off negative, and kind of go down hill from there. Inevitably, I find myself thinking of lamp posts and accoutrements.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (n22zQ)
Yeah, he failed. He did not change things enough so that we would not end up right where we are now.
I cannot even begin to conceive of how anyone could possibly have prevented what happened. I mean, aside from setting up a dictatorship and marching leftists off to be shot and thrown in a pit or something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (q3OJ4)
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (LAe3v)
Reagan was our chance, but the seeds of defeat came with him with Bush and the GOPe.
Posted by: davidt at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (8aOqE)
Do we have anyone right now who you'd trust to do this? I honestly don't know.
Posted by: Doomed? at January 02, 2016 06:16 PM (bGLSw)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:12 PM (39g3+)
I'm late already?!!##
Posted by: @votermom at January 02, 2016 06:17 PM (cbfNE)
From here on out it's George Lucas sniveling about $4 billion payoffs and white slavers.
Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2016 06:17 PM (BngQR)
No. The American People failed. They (I sure as hell didn't) pulled the level for the Indonesian Imbecile.
Twice.
I won't blame Reagan for the sizable and numerous failings of pop culture and the Low Information Voter.
I blame the Media, Obama, and the Left for these things.
Posted by: acethepug at January 02, 2016 06:17 PM (RHPFv)
Posted by: Dregs at January 02, 2016 06:18 PM (VV4qd)
I laugh every time the GOPe squalls about loyalty because I remember how much they have shown historically. Trump doesn't bother me much -- and I enjoy the pearl-clutching. Cruz is my pick for the long haul -- just as back in the late 70s when being impressed by Reagan was crazed.
One thing I want to remind everyone: classical liberals are still out here and there and resent cooption of the descriptor 'liberal' by fascists.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 02, 2016 06:18 PM (MIKMs)
All we can hope for is a Pinochet.
Posted by: @votermom at January 02, 2016 06:19 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 06:19 PM (dvuhZ)
"Everything that guy just did was bullshit."
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:20 PM (kTF2Z)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/selection-du-weekend-173-24.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 02, 2016 06:20 PM (hmbKk)
Well its out there, but its a very small minority now. Its dying out. Even conservatives reject that as "too white" too restrictive, too prudish, old fashioned, etc. Just suggesting that you ought not kill babies gets screams of protest and concern from the right about how you have to shut up about that or war on women yadda yadda.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:21 PM (39g3+)
http://tinyurl.com/z35suzv
Posted by: DaveA passed out cold on Vic's lawn at January 02, 2016 06:21 PM (DL2i+)
He killed the one on the other side of the world, but only pinched the one here.
He tried, but failed.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:22 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 06:22 PM (n22zQ)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:23 PM (iQIUe)
You didn't have to worry about him. He had the country's interest, the America we know and want again, in his heart. He may have screwed up a time or two, but everything he did, he did for the nation's best interest. There is no one that's been in there since who gives you that feeling. You just didn't have to worry with his hand on the tiller.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 06:23 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: DaveA passed out cold on Vic's lawn at January 02, 2016 06:23 PM (DL2i+)
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/683067641481814017
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 06:24 PM (1QqHd)
To expedite matters, I'd set up a staff to go through all of them once elected, so by the time I got into office, I'd have a list ready to roll.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:24 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2016 06:24 PM (/f6Nd)
Posted by: Dregs at January 02, 2016 06:25 PM (VV4qd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:25 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:25 PM (39g3+)
All we can hope for is a Pinochet.
Posted by: @votermom at January 02, 2016 06:19 PM (cbfNE)
***
Yep.
"This," as the young folks say.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 02, 2016 06:25 PM (lutOX)
Reagan was a great President, but he failed to destroy the USSR that existed here.
He killed the one on the other side of the world, but only pinched the one here.
He tried, but failed.
Posted by: eman
He also failed to heal the sick and raise the dead. Loser.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:26 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2016 06:26 PM (BngQR)
As a young fella at the time in high school, I was scared of him. I was certain Reagan was going to get us into a nuclear war, so I didn't have that feeling of comfort.
But looking back? Yeah, I know what you mean. Probably Ike and Washington were the only others that could stand up and be counted in that category.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (39g3+)
Reagan was a great President, but he failed to destroy the USSR that existed here.
He killed the one on the other side of the world, but only pinched the one here.
He tried, but failed.
Posted by: eman
He also failed to heal the sick and raise the dead. Loser.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:26 PM (LAe3v)
Now, now, be nice.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (/f6Nd)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (rJUlF)
Reagan's first act as President will be to Nuke Iran! Vote Reagan.
Reagan's simple platform won over 80% of eighth graders.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: Tyler Mason at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (o8Ix7)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (iQIUe)
Also unlike the Bushes. Jeb's pretty much outspoken about his disdain for whites and blacks who, like, built this country in the first place. "All you Americans are fired" should be Jeb's campaign slogan.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (1QqHd)
I remember her going on about, "Oh, the things that awful Riggins man said about President Carter."
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 06:28 PM (dvuhZ)
In 1967, then Gov. Ronald Reagan and Sen. Robert F. Kennedy appeared on a trans-Atlantic broadcast with students/Communist plants called "Town Meeting of the World".
Reagan was on point and clearly well informed. RFK was equivocating and weak.
http://tinyurl.com/jxkfqf6
Posted by: The Political Hat at January 02, 2016 06:29 PM (vBeA5)
He killed the one on the other side of the world, but only pinched the one here.
He tried, but failed.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:22 PM (MQEz6)
***
It's the same with the Water of Life, man....
Posted by: Mua'dib at January 02, 2016 06:29 PM (lutOX)
Trump is my "Fuck You!!! candidate. Not my choice but if it came down to hildabeast vs Trump I would vote Trump with only slight hesitation given the choice. "Fuck You!!!" is better than hildabeast ANYTIME!!!
Posted by: lindafell de spair at January 02, 2016 06:29 PM (xVgrA)
I remember thinking that was very improper at school. I didn't know why but it didn't feel right to me, to be so openly partisan and wasting time at school watching election results.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:30 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:30 PM (MQEz6)
strong and confident leader who believes in the Constitution and in our
country and does not want us to fall and fail. Trump is a showman.
Rubio is slippery and dishonest. Jeb is a Bush and was never in
contention for me.
It doesn't hurt that he's my senator and I've already voted for him three times.
Posted by: huerfano at January 02, 2016 06:30 PM (NSb9d)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 06:30 PM (rJUlF)
They tried and failed?
They tried and DIED.
You people fapping over Pinochet are sick.
Nobody seems overjoyed at the prospect of Pinochet, just fearfully resigned.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:31 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (iQIUe)
***
Can't speak for others, but for my money, Pinochet's about as good as it gets for the U.S.
A nation gets the leader it deserves.
Posted by: Mua'dib at January 02, 2016 06:31 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:32 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Fox2! at January 02, 2016 06:32 PM (brIR5)
Posted by: Beth M at January 02, 2016 06:32 PM (kiy9d)
Get off my lawn!!-but before you do can you please hand me my ear trumpet and cane?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:33 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 06:33 PM (1QqHd)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 02, 2016 06:33 PM (lutOX)
may turn into more than just a good friend. Cheers to you all!
Congratulations.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:33 PM (LAe3v)
whites and blacks who, like, built this country in the first place. "All
you Americans are fired" should be Jeb's campaign slogan.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (1QqHd)
Jeb does have the Mexican circus midget faction locked down though.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 06:33 PM (T78UI)
Trump is the wild card.
After seeing what has happened since 1981 I am more inclined to play the wild card. The safe cards got beat.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:34 PM (MQEz6)
Beth M,
I can't speak for Fenelon, but I was a fan of both Keaggy and Card back in the day (that day being the 80s and early 90s). I also loved listening to Randy Stonehill.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 06:34 PM (rJUlF)
I don't know that song,. Beth or the other artists, but I do like Michael Card. I have a CD with his rendition of various hymns.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:34 PM (M+RRn)
Having come extremely close to the edge of that abyss in the past, I know of which you speak. But no matter how awful things look, they'll never get any better if you just give up and give in. You beat the demon, you stand stronger now for it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:35 PM (39g3+)
Reagan failed.
Posted by: eman
No one lasts forever and in time the torch is passed. Unfortunately, it was tossed to the Bush family and then: the Reagan military build up was gutted because "Peace Dividend" and "End of History", and regulation, and spending, and taxes and -- you know the rest.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 02, 2016 06:35 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 06:30 PM (rJUlF)
Bless you!
Posted by: m at January 02, 2016 06:36 PM (d4uu4)
http://tinyurl.com/o3prd45
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:37 PM (39g3+)
Glad to hear that things are going better for you. God bless you!
We must all try to " talk each other off the ledge" if that happens because it's one less person to fight the good fight, and as a friend/family member of various people who took their lives it's just cr** for the survivors.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:38 PM (M+RRn)
Reagan is not my hero. I was always embarrassed with an actor as president. He did not move me the way he moved you. I recall him sounding silly to me when he first ran banging on about NOT returning Panama Canal to Panama because they are too unreliable and that occurring around the time Hong Kong was returned to China. I knew of him only that he played in a movie with a monkey.
I am not rejecting your view. I'm saying I never did have or share anything remote to conservative political faith. Reagan videos cannot revive anything for me. That space is empty.
Posted by: bour3 at January 02, 2016 06:39 PM (5x3+2)
*does math*
In his 1964 speech in support of Goldwater, Reagan laid out fundamental principles to which he adhered until he was elected in 1980.
*checks the math*
Where is the 2000 speech in which Trump lays out fundamental continuous convictions?
(BTW, damn near the whole Horde would still agree with every 1964 word of Reagan).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 02, 2016 06:39 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (iQIUe)
We won't have a Pinochet. Too many of the militaries leadership is either cowed or outright social justice warriors. The miliatary is also subservient to the civil authorities (which wasn't the case in Chile), and wouldn't lead a revolution against it.
Posted by: The Junta Hat at January 02, 2016 06:39 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 02, 2016 06:39 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 06:40 PM (n22zQ)
Posted by: Benedict Arnold Horshack at January 02, 2016 06:40 PM (FkBIv)
I enjoy Rc Sproul's scripture commentary on the radio very much when i get a chance to listen. I don't know about the hymn stuff.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:40 PM (M+RRn)
Read some Thucydides, some Machiavelli, some Strauss (Leo), and you'll agree.
We cannot stand against the times, nor hold back the tides of history.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Still Accepting Harem Applicants at January 02, 2016 06:40 PM (lutOX)
Posted by: Killerdog at January 02, 2016 06:40 PM (CtYlS)
Beth M,
I can't speak for Fenelon, but I was a fan of both Keaggy and Card back in the day (that day being the 80s and early 90s). I also loved listening to Randy Stonehill.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 06:34 PM (rJUlF)
Back in the day I enjoyed Stonehill and Keaggy but loved Larry Norman.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 02, 2016 06:41 PM (hJrjt)
"Do NOT attempt to persuade me that any one of them is next next
Reagan. Don't try to draw parallels to his leadership style, his manner
of speaking, his background, or his sense of humor.
Just. Don't."
Um, is this a ban-warning if we do otherwise? Sounds a lil bossy...
Risking getting into trouble, Trump is the most Reaganesque candidate we've had since... Reagan himself.
I remember Reagan. I was a lil kid in the '80s and just loved him. I was a baby just learning to talk when he was running. Reagan famously told a heckler to "shut up" and I used to quote him. My mom would say to me, "What does Reagan say?" And I'd reply, "Shut up!" LOL My parents weren't all that political back then, but I love that story of how Reagan captured people's attention. I cried the day Reagan had to leave office and remember writing it in my journal... I was eight. He was like the country's beloved grandfather. His being at the helm makes it fun to remember the '80s, we were safe and classy back then. Those were the days of glitzy Liza Minelli, Frank Sinatra, and Sammy Davis, Jr concerts on tv. I just remember the whole decade being sparkly and successful. Now that I'm an adult, I've done plenty of studying on the man and now I know why I loved him even when I was too young to now why.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 06:41 PM (xetep)
Posted by: Dregs at January 02, 2016 06:42 PM (VV4qd)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:42 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 06:42 PM (C1Suc)
http://tinyurl.com/h2vgtrb
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 06:43 PM (n22zQ)
He reminds me a lot more of Obama: Great at reaching out to the low info crowd, very charismatic and full of speeches with no content but emotionally compelling sophistry.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:43 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Beth M at January 02, 2016 06:43 PM (kiy9d)
Just hand me the arthritis medicine now and put a blanket over my shoulders before you go to the next room!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:43 PM (M+RRn)
Posted by: Bandersnatch
You mean "A Time for Choosing" speech?
It's worth watching every few years, to see how much further the country is faltering.
But on the other hand, there is a great undercurrent of anger at the government in general and Obama in particular. If Trump can tie Hillary Clinton to Obama successfully, he can win.
I am not crazy about Trump, and he is a wild card. But he is the only one that I am sure can beat Hillary.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 06:43 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 06:44 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Gen. James Mattoon Scott at January 02, 2016 06:44 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:44 PM (LAe3v)
Can't imagine pulling the lever for any of the others in the general. MAAAYYYYBBBEEEEEEE Rubio in the general if I'm drunk. Pretty sure I've never been that drunk though.
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 06:45 PM (RQzsn)
I do indeed.
Not everything is timeless. You can watch the 1960 Kennedy/Nixon debates and wonder why Qemoy and Matsu were important.
The "Time for Choosing" speech lasts.
BTW, full disclosure: I was not a Reaganite in the Reagan years (and I was old enough to vote).
One grows.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 02, 2016 06:46 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 02, 2016 06:41 PM (hJrjt)"
Jumping in here, but I LOVE Larry Norman! When I was first born-again in '90, we had a radio station that played a lot of early CCM and Larry's "Messiah" was one of them. I called the dj to ask "Who was that?!" Larry was incredibly talented. I still have the tape of him singing "I Wish We'd All Been Ready" with DC Talk at some award show in '94. Very cool man. I am very thankful that I got an introduction to that generation of singers: 2nd Chapter of Acts, Stonehill, Keith Green, etc.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 06:46 PM (xetep)
But I suspect that the current circumstances call for a son of a bitch.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at January 02, 2016 06:46 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 06:46 PM (C1Suc)
Trump is the most Reaganesque candidate we've had since... Reagan himself.
He reminds me a lot more of Obama: Great at reaching out to the low
info crowd, very charismatic and full of speeches with no content but
emotionally compelling sophistry.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Spot on. His schtick has its uses, especially in shifting the Overton window, but he lacks the necessary discipline and background knowledge. Use him for what he does well, but then select someone suited to the presidency.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:47 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Beth M at January 02, 2016 06:47 PM (kiy9d)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 02, 2016 06:47 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 06:48 PM (NiHAc)
Again you people are sick. Pinochet had thousands arrested, tortured, and murdered. That any of you would even endorse that shit even jokingly makes me want to puke.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:48 PM (iQIUe)
Thank goodness you were not eating Gerber's baby goop when Regan ran in 1980. We crochety old folks need to stick together. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:48 PM (M+RRn)
One thing Reagan did is he spoke directly to the American People. The MFM, the gope, etc. hated him for that.
Trump does something similar. When Trump answers a question from an MFM stooge, he is not speaking to the stooge, he is speaking to us. When the stooge asks, "Do you think blah, blah, blah" and Trump answers, "Absolutely" he is talking to us, not them.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:48 PM (MQEz6)
Trump is like Reagan in one very important way: He plows through the media to deliver his point, his way.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
So did Pinochet, but I take your point.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:49 PM (LAe3v)
Anyway, good luck with your elections.
Yep. Oh, I'll probably vote but it may be just local and state levels. If I vote for President I may just "throw my vote away..." (h/t The Simpson, back when it was funny) and vote for some off the wall party. Fuck it.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 06:50 PM (NGd+i)
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Lighten up, Francis. And the people talking about let it burn most likely don't want to set the country on fire.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:50 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:51 PM (M+RRn)
134 122
Trump is the most Reaganesque candidate we've had since... Reagan himself.
He reminds me a lot more of Obama: Great at reaching out to the low
info crowd, very charismatic and full of speeches with no content but
emotionally compelling sophistry.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Spot on. His schtick has its uses, especially in shifting the Overton window, but he lacks the necessary discipline and background knowledge. Use him for what he does well, but then select someone suited to the presidency.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:47 PM (LAe3v)
You guys sound very much like Bush supporters in 1980.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:51 PM (MQEz6)
The people who swooned for O were glassy-eyed, public school brainwashed, naive, muddle-headed kids who hated America, or outright evil agitators (Farrakhan, Ayers) who hated America. They loved him either for no real reason or they loved him because he said he was going to ruin everything. Trump's crowd, otoh, are a bunch of America-loving patriots. His supporters are not lo-fo. We love this country and what it USED to stand for (in a thread nostalgic for the '80s...). We have done our research into the leaders of the GOP and are sickened by how they betray us. Trump is the only one who is not beholden to them. Trump has actual America-saving policies, he is not a blank slate we are casting our hopes on. We have solid reasons for supporting him. No fluffy hopenchange here.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 06:51 PM (xetep)
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Or can see it already is.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at January 02, 2016 06:52 PM (m9V0o)
It's worth watching every few years, to see how much further the country is faltering.
But on the other hand, there is a great undercurrent of anger at the government in general and Obama in particular. If Trump can tie Hillary Clinton to Obama successfully, he can win.
I am not crazy about Trump, and he is a wild card. But he is the only one that I am sure can beat Hillary.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 06:43 PM (+1T7c)
The speech in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY
Posted by: A Time for Choosing Hats at January 02, 2016 06:52 PM (vBeA5)
Forget it, he's rolling.
Pinochet had thousands arrested, tortured, and murdered. That any of you would even endorse that shit even jokingly makes me want to puke.
Who here is endorsing Pinochet?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:53 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 06:50 PM (kTF2Z)
This. With my friends who are in the LiB camp, it's not that they want it to happen, it's that they see it as inevitable.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 06:53 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: Dregs at January 02, 2016 06:54 PM (VV4qd)
Posted by: otho at January 02, 2016 06:54 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: buzzion at January 02, 2016 06:54 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 02, 2016 06:55 PM (3U3MX)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 06:55 PM (NGd+i)
J.R. Ewing comes to mind as an example. And maybe Michael Corleone in his kitchen cabinet -- he'd make a good legislative liaison.
And throw a Doc Holliday in as J.R's sidekick, so to speak.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Totally not Tony Romo at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (BngQR)
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To be fair, you are comparing a pro team and Dallas.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, turkey ain't all that's stuffed at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (m9V0o)
25 years out, Reagan looks like a mere temporary pause in the full on socialism the Bushes, Clintons and the rest of the Uniparty have imposed.
Posted by: anti-socialist at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (o9lmn)
If Hillary does win, is it well and truly over? Or do we just slouch along as now? I really don't know.
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (RQzsn)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:12 PM (39g3+)
****
Gay Patriot tweeted that he spotted EASTER stuff in the stores today.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (8PbKi)
Barry had charisma?
Posted by: otho at January 02, 2016 06:54 PM (EWg9n)"
I never saw that either. I also never thought he was a great orator that Republicans loved to claim ("he may be a great orator, but..." they used to say). I also never thought he was handsome or had a great smile...
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 06:57 PM (xetep)
Obama is proof of that.
Something other than Reagan is needed.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 06:03 PM (MQEz6)
Yeah. Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister in the 1980s, and look at England today. She just delayed the decay.
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 06:58 PM (sdi6R)
That's how I see it. For about 2 years the Newt/Contract With America congress put things to a pause as well, but then the rot marched on.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 06:58 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Totally not Tony Romo at January 02, 2016 06:58 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 06:58 PM (LRgVk)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 06:59 PM (n22zQ)
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You shut your whore mouth!
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.I thought buzzion was dead.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 02, 2016 06:59 PM (iONHu)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY
Listening again, M. Chapeau.
Damn, it could be today.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 02, 2016 06:59 PM (1xUj/)
Brash and tough sounding, garnered a lot of Tea Party support thinking he might just be the guy ornery enough to turn NJ around.
And then he governed...
That said, I'll vote for him in a heartbeat over Cankles.
Posted by: Cruz/Lt. Col. West 2016! at January 02, 2016 06:59 PM (H9MG5)
Posted by: LIV at January 02, 2016 06:59 PM (+wg9w)
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 06:53 PM (rJUlF)
Yes.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 02, 2016 06:59 PM (WWdgA)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:00 PM (rwI+c)
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Oh that's just fucking great! Now what am I supposed to do?
Posted by: Mrs. Khan at January 02, 2016 07:00 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 07:00 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 02, 2016 06:43 PM (M+RRn)"
LOL, sorry, FS! I didn't mean to make you feel old, but I love that some of my very first words were a Reagan quote, LOL! He was a big part of my childhood. Because of him, my schooldays were not spent learning how to cower beneath my desk. I never experienced that drill. Thank you, Reagan!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (xetep)
Yes, in the sense that its already "over" in terms of the great experiment of a Republic. We're just at the point of finding out what the nation will turn into and how fast.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (39g3+)
The soft bigotry of low expectations.
Bless his heart.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 02, 2016 06:59 PM (iONHu)
He's a Force Ghost now.
What's that, Buzzion?
Oh, sorry. He's a FARTS Ghost.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (rJUlF)
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (LRgVk)
Erick Erickson wrote a brilliant piece recently-- his last for Redstate, I believe. In it, he recapitulated all the drizzly horseshit written about RR's supposed extremism & unelectability in 1979-80.
It was uncannily similar to the crappie being written about Cruz now.
So, if anyone suggests that "(blank) is no Ronald Reagan!", the dead-on accurate response is, "Neither was Reagan, until he was elected."
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (NiHAc)
Reagan was followed by George HW Bush, and his successors only got worse after that. It makes it hard to have much optimism.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 02, 2016 07:02 PM (RU5ki)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016
Watch it or I'll post that smug Sting song!! (We Dance Alone). I'll do it, don't tempt me!!
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 07:02 PM (NGd+i)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:03 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:48 PM (iQIUe)
What Pinochet figured out was that to pull off the take over of Chile, you not only had to take down the government leaders, but also all the "thought leaders" who provided the civilian support for Allende's attempt to make Chile to Communist.
He didn' kill everyone over his entire rule, but all up front. While the torture is deplorable, if you are going to take over and purge your country of Communists and their ild, then you're gonna have to kill people.
That couldn't happen here, in part because the military wouldn't overthrow the civilian authorities, but also because they'd have to kill civilians. That the number of peole who'd throats we'd have to slit is far, far more than in Chile, is another reason why it wouldn't happen. We'd have to take out: Federal, state, and local bureaucrats; most of the entertainment (Hollywood, TV, &c) industry, tech leaders, a large percentage of college Professors, all the high level SJWs, &c.
Posted by: The Junta Hat at January 02, 2016 07:03 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 07:03 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:04 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:04 PM (e3bId)
It's actually much more like what "they" are writing about TRUMP now. Among a million other similarities in press coverage "they" also love throwing out how Trump's an entertainer much like they loved reminding voters that Reagan was in movies.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 07:04 PM (xetep)
a great orator that Republicans loved to claim ("he may be a great
orator, but..." they used to say). I also never thought he was handsome
or had a great smile...
Posted by: Aslan's girl at January 02, 2016 06:57 PM
The media kept telling me he had charisma. The whole "Jesus Barry" thing... yeah, was told what a great orator he was... what a great personality. I couldn't see it. He was just some nameless, "young" dude doing an unconvincing JFK impression. The dude was a plank. Hillary at least had personality. Barry had nothing beside "halo" photos.
Posted by: otho at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (EWg9n)
The Dept. of Education, was passed into law under Carter, but actually opened its doors under Reagan.
IMO Reagan was a good President... but was far from perfect...
Part of that though was that I was USN during those years.... and some of his decisions got friends of mine killed.... for nothing (Beirut 83).. and that situation set the stage for the even more screwed up Middle East we have today.
I will never forget, after the Beirut Bombing... we were there for a couple more months picking up the pieces... and just when we were getting ready to go home.... the Marines and Ships which were supposed to be relieving us off of Lebanon... invaded Grenada...
At the time I heard that... I remember thinking... what the hell are we invading Spain for???
Needless to say... Moral on my ship really really sucked... no one gave a shit about us... and even when we got back to Norfolk on a rainy day... there were no bands... no celebration... just a walk to the end of the pier... because we were victims of the News Cycle... and part of a story they wanted forgotten...
And for the record.... just a couple years ago Declassified Documents showed that within days of the Barracks blast... they KNEW Iran was behind it... but sat on that information... setting the stage for where we are at today...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:27 PM (iQIUe)
What do Leftists do when they take power?
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (1D4Ef)
Posted by: The Junta Hat
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Is there qoing to be a quiz? Should I be taking notes?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (n22zQ)
You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get Corporal Punishment
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (mUa7N)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (NiHAc)
Agreed.
189 Erick Erickson wrote a brilliant piece recently
I don't understand these words in that order.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 07:03 PM (zt+N6)
*turns on Monitor wipers*
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 02, 2016 07:06 PM (WWdgA)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 02, 2016 07:06 PM (5fvBZ)
183 Just think what may have happened if Reagan had picked Kemp as his VP, instead of GHBush.
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 07:01 PM (LRgVk)
The gope forced him to take Bush.
They were ready to go nuclear if Reagan didn't.
Sound familiar?
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:06 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:05 PM (rwI+c)
Is he DC or Marvel?
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 07:06 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 02, 2016 07:06 PM (oVJmc)
Just consider that pulling that handle for me will be an act of love.
Posted by: El Gobernador Jeb Bush at January 02, 2016 07:07 PM (RU5ki)
All that time and we didn't bring a camera! IDIOTS!!
Let me say that again IDIOT!
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 02, 2016 07:08 PM (jJRIy)
that he could destroy the Republican Party and allow for something more
than the Token Opposition Wing of the Democrats.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel
And any member of the GOPe with a firing synapse should be able to see that coming and do what has to be done to avoid it. Yes, yes, I know.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 07:08 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: jewells45 at January 02, 2016 07:08 PM (5fvBZ)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 07:08 PM (NGd+i)
Thank you for your perspective and your bravery in telling a hard truth about Reagan. It's not easy when most see Reagan as "perfect", I almost do that myself! But, yeah, he made mistakes, too (picking GHWB and amnesty come to mind).
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 07:09 PM (xetep)
Among a million other similarities in press coverage "they" also love
throwing out how Trump's an entertainer much like they loved reminding
voters that Reagan was in movies.
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.We were told over and over almost daily that Reagan was a joke, a cheap B Movie Star that would never amount to anything and he had absolutely zero chance of winning the election. We were also told that he wasn't a real conservative because he was infected with Hollywood politics and was just saying things to win.
Does any of this sound familiar?
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 02, 2016 07:09 PM (iONHu)
Posted by: The Junta Hat
*uncomfortably shifts in chair from enormous hard-on pinch*
Go on .........
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 02, 2016 07:09 PM (WWdgA)
Posted by: RioBravo at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (RQzsn)
Posted by: seamrog
Nothing different.
The problem is that he Middle Class, then and now, still wanted the government stuff that was promised them; Medicare, Social Security, Student loans, Home mortgage tax deduction, and on, and on.
We all want the stuff that government has bribed us with. That was true in the 80's, when the Reagan Administration wanted to cut entitlements, and people in both parties resisted.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: George Bailey at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (JO9+V)
201 There will never be another Reagan. For some reason higher beings decided we needed him right at that time. I am not excited by any of the current crop that is running but will pull the lever for whoever the nominee is (except Bush) because any republican is better than any democrat any damn day of the week.
Posted by: jewells45 at January 02, 2016 07:06 PM (5fvBZ)
No, they are not better. They belong to one party. You are just voting for chocolate ice cream with vanilla swirls or vanilla ice cream with chocolate swirls.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (MQEz6)
He ran against the USSR and Jimmy Carter's inability to deal with the Iran hostage situation. Things are quite different today.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2016 07:11 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:11 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: George Bailey at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (JO9+V)
It wasn't Reagan that failed...
It was Clarence.
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at January 02, 2016 07:12 PM (WWdgA)
Disgree. The stuff Erickson quoted at great length was more "Reagan is Goldwater 2.0, & Reagan will start wars" & "Carter is chomping at the bit to face Reagan! He's scared of Ford & G.H.W. Bush, though" shit.
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 07:12 PM (NiHAc)
Posted by: Rick Perry at January 02, 2016 07:14 PM (7EHW6)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 07:08 PM
LOL. I mean she had some sort of personality. A bitchy, unpleasant one, generally, but, a personality nonetheless. Not charisma... but, personality... at least in comparison to Barry. Despite the fawning he was given, there was nothing there. He had dead eyes. Like a doll's eyes.
Posted by: otho at January 02, 2016 07:14 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (MQEz6)
Your lack of strawberry in this faux neapolitan you have conjured up clearly shows you to be the racist we've all suspected for hours and hours. I denounce myself for having read your entire comment.
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 07:14 PM (RQzsn)
219 In fairness, Reagan was the twice elected governor of the most populous state in the Union. Trump, not so much.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:11 PM (rwI+c)
That may say more about our proximity to the edge of the Abyss than it says about Trump.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:15 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:15 PM (rwI+c)
Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, I think I'd say. Let no out alive, let no building stand. Wreak Biblical judgement on it, and let there be much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:16 PM (dvuhZ)
He had his story down and then of course there is THIS, THE SPEECH!
http://tinyurl.com/l9u62sa
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 02, 2016 07:17 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: otho
There was a post on "Protein Wisdom" a few years ago (2012?) about a closed circuit broadcast of Barry talking to campaign supporters "frankly". Someone had gotten inside and recorded it on their phone, and had it up on the Protein Wisdom blog.
And yes, Barry has "dead eyes". He's a soul-less punk. A 52 year old punk.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 07:17 PM (+1T7c)
Preserving GOP majorities has never been a high priority of the GOP, for some reason. Maybe it's because the GOPe is made up of primarily of assholes.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 02, 2016 07:17 PM (RU5ki)
Grabs crotch and says "I've got your fundamental transformation right here bitch!"
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 07:19 PM (RQzsn)
Posted by: crazywalt77 at January 02, 2016 07:19 PM (9HBek)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:19 PM (rwI+c)
Sorry, but the age-related dementia parallels draw themselves. Hey, who typed that? Wonder if that was me...
Freaking Chipotle's- gotta go drop some depth charges.
Posted by: Hillary! at January 02, 2016 07:19 PM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: Jones in CO at January 02, 2016 07:19 PM (8G5Jp)
(BTW, damn near the whole Horde would still agree with every 1964 word of Reagan).
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 02, 2016 06:39 PM (1xUj/)"
Since at least as far back as 1997, Trump has been very consistent on his #1 issue: immigration. Back then he even was against legal immigration (to which I say: amen). That's nearly 20 yrs.
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 07:19 PM (xetep)
Gosh, he's just like Trump!
Except for how he had been saying the same, conservative thing, for 20+ years, without changing his mind.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 07:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:21 PM (MQEz6)
Retired, if possible, dead, just as good.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:21 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 07:17 PM (+1T7c
FIFY
Posted by: Nip Sip at January 02, 2016 07:21 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 07:22 PM (+1T7c)
Didn't turn 18 until mid '85, so I couldn't even vote for his re-election. Thankfully, he didn't need my help.
Dutch will never be surpassed, in my eyes. I still quote him occasionally. Trust But Verify quite often, actually.
Posted by: David Bowie at January 02, 2016 07:22 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:19 PM (rwI+c)
Yeah but I understand their QB is a favorite to be drafted in the first round by Cleveland.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 07:22 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: George Bailey at January 02, 2016 07:10 PM (JO9+V)
It wasn't Reagan that failed...
It was Clarence.
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Poor, stupid Clarence GOP forgot where he left the money.
Bozo and Mooch stole the money. And there must not be any bells in D.C. because there sure as hell aren't any angels. Plenty of angles, though.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:23 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 07:24 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 07:25 PM (+1T7c)
infected with Hollywood politics and was just saying things to win.
So we're now letting the media determine who we should endorse?
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 07:25 PM (LAe3v)
Either health or legal issues.
Just a gut feeling.
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 07:25 PM (LRgVk)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 02, 2016 07:25 PM (8PbKi)
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 07:27 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 07:28 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:28 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: publius
40 days, and Barackistan shall be overthrown.
Posted by: Jonah at January 02, 2016 07:28 PM (7EHW6)
Erick Erickson wrote a brilliant piece recently
Posted by: mnwxyz
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTOeuH-iEJ8
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 02, 2016 07:28 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: davidt at January 02, 2016 07:28 PM (8aOqE)
Why isn't this big news?
Posted by: hudaybiyah - trust me at January 02, 2016 07:28 PM (HgTBl)
247 We were also told that he wasn't a real conservative because he was
infected with Hollywood politics and was just saying things to win.
So we're now letting the media determine who we should endorse?
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 07:25 PM (LAe3v)
What do you mean?
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:30 PM (MQEz6)
Also, they were both known for their hair.
Posted by: pep at January 02, 2016 07:24 PM (LAe3v)
That took much longer than I thought it would.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 07:30 PM (T78UI)
As recently as a month ago, he explained that he agreed with Zuckerberg on this issue. Plus, Mr. T's adult son has recently assured us that Trump intends to let all the illegals he plans to deport come right back.
The kid works on Trump's campaign, btw.
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 07:30 PM (NiHAc)
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He was a low down cheap little punk.
Taking everyone for a ride.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:30 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 07:30 PM (NGd+i)
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 07:31 PM (RQzsn)
Posted by: davidt at January 02, 2016 07:32 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 07:33 PM (39g3+)
the vp nominees will be. Neither one of these two are spring chickens
and we already suspect Hillary is a bit shakey.
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.I have $50 that says Hillary won't make it through the General, no way. She can't even get through a day as SOS without being easily confused and taking a nap according to her most trusted Aide.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 02, 2016 07:33 PM (iONHu)
Not Jeb, not Rubio the fraud, definitely not Trump the clown
If it is Hillary vs Trump then I vote third party, I voted for the Libertarian in 2000, I might have to do that again
Posted by: chemjeff @ phone at January 02, 2016 07:33 PM (VXWwc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:34 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 07:34 PM (NiHAc)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 07:33 PM (39g3+)
They probably already keep her in a high-oxygen rejuvenation chamber 6 days out of 7 already.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 07:34 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: davidt at January 02, 2016 07:35 PM (8aOqE)
Eric has been a toad for years.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:35 PM (rwI+c)
That's the best case scenario. Worst case is Trump hands off the hard work to Top Men, who just happen to be the establishment class.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 02, 2016 07:36 PM (2lndx)
There's a reason she's only seen every few days, for short periods of time and never where she's challenged or asked questions. I can't even imagine how much prep time and drugs are involved in propping up that corpse for debates.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 07:36 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:37 PM (MQEz6)
chamber 6 days out of 7 already.
But that just promotes rusting of her exoskeleton
Posted by: chemjeff @ phone at January 02, 2016 07:37 PM (VXWwc)
Posted by: Xavier at January 02, 2016 07:37 PM (3X3Pk)
She's already dead. She bathes in the blood of virgins once a month to keep the appearance of life.
And they're running out of virgins.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 02, 2016 07:38 PM (2lndx)
http://bit.ly/1ZGWCI6
Just took Uber back and forth to the store, cause truck won't start and out of dog and cat food. It was nice. Faster and cheaper than the local cabs. I can see why it caught on.
And lastly, Reagan. I was in CA when he was governor and a lefty when he was president. I was surprised by the reaction when he died. It was like a lot of folks had come round to believing he'd done well. But folks ran against him with the Bedtime for Bonzo stills. He was not considered a great candidate at the time, either for gov or prez.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 02, 2016 07:38 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: chemjeff @ phone at January 02, 2016 07:37 PM (VXWwc)
Pretty sure they give her a new latex coating every six months or so.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 07:38 PM (T78UI)
273 They probably already keep her in a high-oxygen rejuvenation chamber 6 days out of 7 already.
There's a reason she's only seen every few days, for short periods of time and never where she's challenged or asked questions. I can't even imagine how much prep time and drugs are involved in propping up that corpse for debates.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 07:36 PM (39g3+)
Yeah, so much for Night Gallery being just a TV show.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:39 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 02, 2016 06:23 PM (iQIUe
I am honored that Sly has asked me to star in Donald Trump's Expendables 13. This movie is going to have more action than every other movie in history put together. And it's going to be very classy. The box office will be YUUUGE.
Posted by: The Donald, sometime in 2025 at January 02, 2016 07:39 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 07:39 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:39 PM (e3bId)
Fanning the embers consumes them more rapidly.
Posted by: t-bird at January 02, 2016 07:41 PM (ZxmMG)
Her massive ego can't accept the fact that she will never be President.
That ego makes the evil hungrier.
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 07:41 PM (LRgVk)
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Riddle of the Sphinx: What has four legs in the morning, two legs in the day, and six legs in the evening?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:41 PM (Nwg0u)
You're wrong. She's like some sci-fi mad scientist. She will persist by sheer willpower alone, and when she has done her damage, only then will she dissolve into a puddle of dark, foul smelling goo.
Posted by: Jonah at January 02, 2016 07:41 PM (7EHW6)
It takes that long to choreograph a shot and CGI her into it? Just a guess.
Posted by: t-bird at January 02, 2016 07:42 PM (ZxmMG)
Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2016 07:42 PM (DL2i+)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpHCfndib0Q
Posted by: Willy J. at January 02, 2016 07:42 PM (wHX4r)
Woo pig sooie!!! (Since I guess we aren't having a football thread)
Ok, back to politics.
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 07:43 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 02, 2016 07:43 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: mc at January 02, 2016 07:44 PM (jHbIf)
It takes that long to choreograph a shot and CGI her into it? Just a guess.
Posted by: t-bird at January 02, 2016 07:42 PM (ZxmMG)
It'd funnier than hell if somebody started a petition for proof that she is still alive.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 07:44 PM (T78UI)
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I thought bathing in the blood of virgins like Elizabeth Bathory.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:44 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2016 07:44 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:45 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Eromero at January 02, 2016 07:45 PM (b+df9)
She just needs to get enough rest ... in her native earth.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:45 PM (rwI+c)
Trump and Cruz are a tie for me.
Anyone else and I am going to write in a pepperoni pizza.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:37 PM (MQEz6)"
But what kind of pepperoni pizza? NY, Chicago, California? Thin crust? Deep dish? So many choices!!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 07:46 PM (xetep)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:47 PM (e3bId)
Trump and Cruz are a tie for me.
Anyone else and I am going to write in a pepperoni pizza.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:37 PM (MQEz6)"
But what kind of pepperoni pizza? NY, Chicago, California? Thin crust? Deep dish? So many choices!!
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 07:46 PM (xetep)
New York. Party size, maybe, have to see how it looks on the Resolute Desk first.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:47 PM (MQEz6)
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I'll paint any chassis for $200!
- Earl Scheib
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:49 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:50 PM (e3bId)
***
I think Trump picks Carly
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 02, 2016 07:50 PM (8PbKi)
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I'll paint any chassis for $200!
- Earl Scheib
Posted by: The Great White Snark
She needs the Ziebart treatment.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2016 07:50 PM (FkBIv)
Fuck 'em all, more they kill of each other, the better.
Of course, I've come to the conclusion that ruthless dictators are what the ME needs. The population is nucking futs, incapable of limited self-governing, and needs to be under a ruthless yoke.
So I pull for the dictators now, the ones on our side enough, or at least aren't coo-koo for jihad coco puffs.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:50 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at January 02, 2016 07:50 PM (NTbr4)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:47 PM (MQEz6)"
Ah, well, it's got to be Chicago thin crust for me... maybe as VP? As long as they're from two different states, the Constitution should allow it
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 07:51 PM (xetep)
Posted by: freaked at January 02, 2016 07:52 PM (BO/km)
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Storming an embassy and taking hostages is SOOOOOOOOO 1979.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:52 PM (Nwg0u)
Or not.
Fuck the GOP.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (u5gzz)
Double undercoat.
I'm still recommending molten pitch.
Old School.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:52 PM (Nwg0u)
Well that but there's rioting in SA itself, apparently.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (4ErVI)
Yeah, Saudi Arabia going tits-up is a good candidate for the thing that changes everything.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (f7rv6)
Anyone else and I am going to write in a pepperoni pizza.
Posted by: eman
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As a tip o' the hat to Cruz, you should nix the pepperoni & go with Canadian bacon.
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (NiHAc)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: freaked at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (e3bId)
I love it, but Cruz is their hope, now. Anything butt rump, and the hated Cruz is now their savior. Sombody predicted a Cruz/Haley tickey (Nikki, that it is, our governor, Tricky Nikki as some of my rebel flag buddies are now calling her).
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: freaked at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (BO/km)
I'd like the Viggo M explode into a cloud of bats vs. the Margaret H
Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2016 07:56 PM (mUa7N)
Posted by: Notsothoreau
Life is whole lot stressful once you realize they are all squishes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 02, 2016 07:56 PM (9YDUz)
321 I though they hung all those guys. Did they behead some too? Freaking barbarians.
Posted by: freaked at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (BO/km)
Somebody filled the form out wrong and checked both boxes.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:56 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: The Chicken at January 02, 2016 07:56 PM (BO/km)
Sounds like SA is either going through a sword shortage or somebody fucked up.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2016 07:57 PM (4ErVI)
322 Can we get half with anchovies?
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (e3bId)
RINO!!
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:57 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Jonah at January 02, 2016 07:57 PM (7EHW6)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:57 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 07:57 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: gp at January 02, 2016 07:58 PM (mk9aG)
Yeah, Saudi Arabia going tits-up is a good candidate for the thing that changes everything.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (MQEz6)
It's nice to imagine the Saudi royal family being marched to the gallows. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. Buh-bye.
But then I think about what will replace them...
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 07:58 PM (sdi6R)
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Gavrilo Prinzep?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:58 PM (Nwg0u)
Rioting might produce another round of double-headers.
Posted by: mnwxyz at January 02, 2016 07:58 PM (NiHAc)
wow.... sites really lagging for me..
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (f7rv6)
upgrade
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 02, 2016 07:58 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 07:53 PM (MQEz6)
Sunni Shiite Cage Match... been coming for a long time...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 07:59 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 07:59 PM (rwI+c)
326 I love these type threads. Has anyone honestly been swayed or changed their mind based on the arguments presented here?
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2016 07:56 PM (mUa7N)
Yes. Yes I have. See my name.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 07:58 PM (sdi6R)
That's exactly it. It's the reason I want Assad restored to full power in Syria. Sure he's an asshole and a tyrant, but he's not really a larger threat to the region as proven by his track record of being a non-entity in the area. He goes and who knows what kind of freaks take over.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Ronster
You are right, of course. It is an airing of greivances. In the end, nothing we say or write here will make any bit of difference, except to ourselves.
Somebody will undoubtedly get to say "I told you so". It's a long way until next May when the primaries will be pretty much over.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (+1T7c)
Was that really him? I miss him and Sooth. I'd like them both back if that is possible
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Weasel
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No!
You and SMFH can keep that shit out of here!
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 08:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jonah at January 02, 2016 08:01 PM (7EHW6)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:01 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:02 PM (MQEz6)
I kinda want a pizza now.
Posted by: freaked at January 02, 2016 08:02 PM (BO/km)
Yeah. But Sooth pissed off a cob and human nature being what it is, Ace will side with his cronies.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:02 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 08:03 PM (e3bId)
*raises hand*
I told you so.
(Just wanted to be first)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 02, 2016 08:03 PM (1xUj/)
Posted by: davidt at January 02, 2016 08:03 PM (8aOqE)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:01 PM (m9V0o)
So a standard MSM interview?
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:03 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Jonah at January 02, 2016 08:03 PM (7EHW6)
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.If the Kingdom of Saud goes down, it is pretty much all over for the entire Middle East.
Posted by: The Great White Soctsman at January 02, 2016 08:03 PM (iONHu)
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 08:03 PM (sdi6R)
Let them all kill each other.
Fewer of them to bother US.
Since barky kicked Israel to the curb, do we have ANY allies in the Middle East ?
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 08:04 PM (LRgVk)
I kinda want a pizza now.
Posted by: freaked
It's had to argue someone out of a pizza.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2016 08:04 PM (FkBIv)
Just think control of Mecca and Medina up for grabs, with Sunnis and Shitites going nuts. Iran would love to dominate, hell control the holy shitties themselves.
I'd love to be able to land in Mecca and just piss on their holy rock or whatever the hell it is. Then raze the city and poison the earth where it stood.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 08:04 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:02 PM (rwI+c)
Well his methodology of coming back is the MUMR model. So good luck with that. Banning seems to separate the true pricks from those that are just having a bad day.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:05 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 08:05 PM (+1T7c)
Once more, I am in the vanguard of the Horde.
This fact horrifies and appalls me.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:05 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at January 02, 2016 07:58 PM (0O7c5)
Yeah.... because my 8 core Processor running at 4 Ghz, with 16 gigs of Ram... with Solid State HD... and High Speed internet.... is the problem.... LOL...Looks like I'm getting hit with a bunch of ad scripts and such... going to have to clean the machine a bit...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 08:06 PM (f7rv6)
Alas, Romans we are not.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:06 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016
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So begging is required?
Well, this sucks. I'm not good at that.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:06 PM (2x3L+)
I found his thoughts about American culture interesting. He said the Europeans have a strong sense of who they are than we do. And that we didn't really assimilate the Irish or the other groups that came in before 1920. Gotta go and finish reading it.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 02, 2016 08:06 PM (Lqy/e)
I'm not sure what you mean? Is he posting rambling vulgar comments?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:07 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 08:06 PM (f7rv6)
Its the video ads that are causing massive drains. I voiced this to ace recently.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:07 PM (zt+N6)
Remember when Pelosi went to Syria April 4, 2007? Something was afoot then. Maybe Assad said no. Sorta like Bill Cosby's pull up your pants and get a job. Or Joe Paterno's tell it to the police.
Posted by: conspiracy nut at January 02, 2016 08:07 PM (PGh+Q)
Barky Fuskstick is out. They will botch things worse than the Arab
Spring. If Hillary get it, well it's all fucked anyway, though.
Anyone who thinks (a) the Saudis haven't already obtained nukes from the Pakis (or Israelis...) and (b) they won't use them if they're going down to take the Iranians with them, well they're smoking some grade AAA shit right there.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:07 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at January 02, 2016 08:08 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:08 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:08 PM (rwI+c)
I'm not sure what you mean? Is he posting rambling vulgar comments?
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:07 PM (rwI+c)
Not rambling. But posting an insulting assholish comment, sometimes more than once that gets wiped, yes.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:09 PM (zt+N6)
368 We should have taken the oil rich eastern half of Arabia when we had the army there in '91.
Alas, Romans we are not.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:06 PM (rwI+c)
Yup.
That would have been a took your queen move.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:09 PM (MQEz6)
restored to full power in Syria. Sure he's an asshole and a tyrant, but
he's not really a larger threat to the region as proven by his track
record of being a non-entity in the area. He goes and who knows what
kind of freaks take over.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (4ErVI)
And being under Putin's thumb... as much as people demonize him... is still better for us that being a purely Islamic State...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 08:09 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 02, 2016 08:09 PM (7EHW6)
I would rather go the "if you chose to separate yourself, you are not American" route than anything even remotely resembling the "White Pride" route. The latter is repugnant to me on basic philosophical grounds, and I still retain enough of those for it to matter to me.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:09 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: Weasel at January 02, 2016 08:09 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Meaty told 'im/'er to stop insulting him. Soothy took that as a challenge.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 02, 2016 08:09 PM (9YDUz)
Is this blog the only blog making money?
Are they trying to silence this blog by drowning it in ads?
Posted by: conspiracy nut at January 02, 2016 08:10 PM (PGh+Q)
I'll have to take your word for that. All of his vanishing comments that I have happened to catch were fine.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:10 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:08 PM
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Yeah, he taunted happy fun ball or whatever Maet always closes the ONT with. Maet banned him.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:10 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:08 PM (kTF2Z
Sooth said something assholish to Maet. Maet told him he's tired of his crap and to knock it off. Sooth doubled down.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:10 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:11 PM (C1Suc)
Let's try it.
Cloud of bats.
Cloud of bats.
Cloud of bats.
Cloud of bats.
Cloud of bats.
Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2016 08:11 PM (DL2i+)
Anyone who thinks (a) the Saudis haven't already
obtained nukes from the Pakis (or Israelis...) and (b) they won't use
them if they're going down to take the Iranians with them, well they're
smoking some grade AAA shit right there.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:07 PM (m9V0o)
And anyone who does not think the Iranians don't ALREADY have nukes... has their head buried in the sand.
We KNOW they had plans for an already tested Pakistani Weapon... and have had plenty of time to gather the materials...
Bet they are sitting there... untested...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 08:11 PM (f7rv6)
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 08:12 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: freaked at January 02, 2016 08:12 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:12 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2016 08:12 PM (mUa7N)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:12 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:13 PM (rwI+c)
Admiral Painter is in a bar having a drink with Admiral Akbar.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:13 PM (MQEz6)
I log that as a specific instance of my governing principle: "Imagine the worst possible case. Assume reality is worse."
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:13 PM (m9V0o)
I love it, but Cruz is their hope, now. Anything butt rump, and the hated Cruz is now their savior. Sombody predicted a Cruz/Haley tickey (Nikki, that it is, our governor, Tricky Nikki as some of my rebel flag buddies are now calling her).
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:54 PM (dvuhZ)
Fuck Icky Haley in particular
Posted by: Palmetto Primary (infrequently Vile) at January 02, 2016 08:14 PM (TjcWY)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:14 PM (C1Suc)
Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin, I think I'd say. Let no out alive, let no building stand. Wreak Biblical judgement on it, and let there be much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 07:16 PM (dvuhZ)
*raises smoking mug of magic potion*
Cheers!
Posted by: Egg Chen at January 02, 2016 08:14 PM (WWdgA)
I've probably danced on the edge from time to time myself. I probably steer clear because I try to be diplomatic and I just don't discuss certain things in open channels.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:15 PM (m9V0o)
A person should leave the USA and go home if they consider another country their home.
Parties over. Time for the clean-up.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:15 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:16 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:17 PM (C1Suc)
...if you chose to separate yourself...
A person should leave the USA and go home if they consider another country their home.
Parties over. Time for the clean-up.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:15 PM (PGh+Q)
Yup... FIRST thing we really need to do is get rid of the Court imposed crap that dual citizenship is OK...
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 08:17 PM (f7rv6)
I will vote for ANYONE against Hillary.
Daffy Duck, any GOP, Trump, Bernie Sanders, Al Sharpton, a drunk scooped out of the gutter --- I don't care. Whoever has the best chance of stopping her.
The b*tch is a grasping, lying sociopath.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 02, 2016 08:17 PM (T/5A0)
And anyone who does not think the Iranians don't ALREADY have nukes... has their head buried in the sand.
I log that as a specific instance of my governing principle: "Imagine the worst possible case. Assume reality is worse."
Posted by: Brother Cavil
The Iranians have a nuke, several probably. Not a large arsenal yet.
And they will use one first against a Sunni target, before they ever attack Israel. For all their genocidal talk, they KNOW that Israel has nukes and will fire back.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 08:18 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:17 PM (C1Suc)
I think you mean "billions"
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:18 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 08:18 PM (dvuhZ)
Can they get an "official" second chance? If they can't abide by the new rules, then banned for life. The rules keep changing. I don t know what is allowed anymore except don't piss off anyone in charge. That is kinda vague.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:18 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at January 02, 2016 08:18 PM (u5gzz)
@10$/bbl we could afford lead gas tank linings.
@210$/bbl we'll be doing a lot more walking.
Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2016 08:19 PM (DL2i+)
Your sins must be grave indeed, that I should be sent to punish you.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:19 PM (m9V0o)
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Yeah, he failed. He did not change things enough so that we would not end up right where we are now.
I cannot even begin to conceive of how anyone could possibly have
prevented what happened. I mean, aside from setting up a dictatorship
and marching leftists off to be shot and thrown in a pit or something.
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Ok, I'm listening now; please continue...
Posted by: RoadRunner at January 02, 2016 08:19 PM (ai0ol)
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:00 PM (PGh+Q)
The only way you're gonna pray them away is by killing them. God doesn't do the Jericho thing anymore
2016 - the year of selling cloaks and buying swords.
Posted by: Blano at January 02, 2016 08:20 PM (heN73)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:20 PM (kTF2Z)
One grows.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 02, 2016 06:46 PM (1xUj/)
I was a 20-year old college student when I proudly pulled the lever for Carter in 1980. I trusted the media and believed the bunkum that Reagan would lead us into war.
The thing that amazes me when I reflect back on my early political beliefs is that, while I considered myself a liberal Democrat, virtually every position I held would be considered rock-solid conservative today. That's how much the Democrats have changed since 1980.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 02, 2016 08:20 PM (dPpmC)
I recommend looking like the second coming of George Washington.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2016 08:21 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:21 PM (MQEz6)
Basically, don't be a dick.
Heck, I know of at least one major Asshat that has never been banned (not even mildly warned) even after picking fights with at least a dozen upstanding regulars.
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 08:21 PM (UICf+)
Yea, that and repeatedly proclaiming you are not ghey will do it. Specially to Gabe.
Posted by: freaked at January 02, 2016 08:21 PM (BO/km)
Seems politicians do very little of that these days, on either/all sides of issues. Like being clear is a sign of weakness or something.
What a world...
Posted by: BurtTC at January 02, 2016 08:22 PM (Dj0WE)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 02, 2016 08:22 PM (2cS/G)
I have not been here very long, but I got attached to certain
commenters, Jones in CO, Empire of Jeff, and Soothsayer. Probably all
of you miss them in some ways. I'd like them to get a second chance.
Maybe they got a lot of second chances bc of the mercy of Ace and the
cobs unbeknownst to me.
Can they get an "official" second chance? If they can't abide by
the new rules, then banned for life. The rules keep changing. I don t
know what is allowed anymore except don't piss off anyone in charge.
That is kinda vague.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:18 PM (2x3L+)
I heard Jones could've sent an email apologizing but chose not to do so.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 02, 2016 08:23 PM (4ErVI)
in a presidential election.
It's a bullshit gimmick.
The feces will soon strike the oscillator.
No time for HR to be posturing.
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 08:23 PM (LRgVk)
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True. Thanks for correcting me. EoJ was not banned. The fight that led to him walking away seemed like a misunderstanding to me. He should be here still. He belongs here.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:23 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 08:23 PM (sdi6R)
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Say what you will about Koko's handlers, it must be harder to brainwash a gorilla than a college student.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 08:23 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: william at January 02, 2016 08:24 PM (cwAFZ)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 07:44 PM (Nwg0u)
FIFY
Posted by: The Sanguine hat at January 02, 2016 08:24 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Palmetto Primary (infrequently Vile) at January 02, 2016 08:14 PM (TjcWY)
Just another spineless RINO.
I bought a Confederate Battle Flag in her honor.
Posted by: Blano at January 02, 2016 08:24 PM (heN73)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:24 PM (C1Suc)
The current method is for officials and cronies to do something. If the hue and cry is too much they nominally back off. Sometimes they just say they backed off but don't undo what they did.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:25 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2016 08:25 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:27 PM (kTF2Z)
The fight that led to him walking away seemed like a misunderstanding
to me. He should be here still. He belongs here.
Posted by: L, Elle
EOJ was funny as hell, and even Ace said he was one of his best commenters, but he would also make some very incendiary remarks, particularly about race, that Ace and the Cobs strongly disagreed with, and more than once danced on the edge of being banned.
EOJ pretty much called Ace a p*SS*, and left before he was banned.
EOJ's podcasts (on his own blog) were pretty hilarious.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 08:28 PM (+1T7c)
Basically, don't be a dick.
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Heck, I know of at least one major Asshat that has never been banned (not even mildly warned) even after picking fights with at least a dozen upstanding regulars.
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 08:21 PM (UICf+)
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Me too. I know the guy you know, Chi. I have been told to "fuck off" or "fuck myself" by exactly 2 people who would have been banned with the present banning rules in place
now. Both of those commenters are considered platinum members.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:28 PM (2x3L+)
The manhunt for Nashat Melhem, the suspect in the Tel Aviv shooting, continues at full stretch and his brother's arrest has been extended by five days. Pupils will return to their studies in Tel Aviv on Sunday under heavy security and parents have been told not to send their children to school if they feel it isn't safe.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 08:28 PM (DUoqb)
to him walking away seemed like a misunderstanding to me. He should be
here still. He belongs here.
EoJ does have his own joint. Honestly I think in some ways he needed his own space on his own terms.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 08:28 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: Smelly Kat at January 02, 2016 08:28 PM (Rpnpg)
Posted by: Fritz at January 02, 2016 06:56 PM (BngQR)
I truly expect Iran, backed by Russia, to launch a full-scale invasion this year to consolidate Iraq, prop up Assad in Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon, and take over the oil fields of eastern Saudi Arabia, and take over Kuwait, Yemen, and the smaller states on the eastern and southern Arabian Peninsula.
I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 02, 2016 08:29 PM (dPpmC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 08:30 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at January 02, 2016 08:30 PM (xetep)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:17 PM (C1Suc)
I think you mean "billions"
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Yes, thanks to Obozo, the U.S. is now the world's largest terrorist-supporting country.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 08:30 PM (Nwg0u)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 08:30 PM (DUoqb)
421 Maybe Iran will nuke Turkey.
The Russians will smile and NATO is a word on moldy stationary.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:21 PM (MQEz6)
most don't know it... but Russia and Iran have a mutual defense treaty...
Just like Russia and Syria... which is why it was pretty dumb to think Russia would not do anything when we PUBLICALLY announce we are trying to overthrow the Assad, and train and arm those in rebellion against him.
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 08:31 PM (f7rv6)
this year to consolidate Iraq, prop up Assad in Syria and Hezbollah in
Lebanon, and take over the oil fields of eastern Saudi Arabia, and take
over Kuwait, Yemen, and the smaller states on the eastern and southern
Arabian Peninsula.
You peeked to the end, didn't you?
Posted by: The Book of Revelations at January 02, 2016 08:31 PM (oVJmc)
Hell, barky kicked the US to the curb so Israel has company.
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 08:32 PM (NGd+i)
It's the Chicago Way.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:33 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit
I just finished reading "The Profession" by Steven Pressfield last week. You should read this, too.
Pressfield (Gates of Fire, Tides of War, The Legend of Bagger Vance) sets this novel in 2032, with plenty of flashbacks to explain what has happened in the last +20 years.
It's not pretty, but is one possible outcome. One thing he did not predict was the fracking revolution in the US.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 08:33 PM (+1T7c)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016
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Salient point. I only have time for one in my daytime hours so Ace wins. I miss EoJ a lot. I'd like him back here.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:34 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Ezekial at January 02, 2016 08:35 PM (AfsKp)
What boggles my mind, is that it still happens almost nightly, way past ace's new rules implementation.
It is unfair that they're not enforced uniformly, but, whatevs. This isn't my house.
If I ever feel myself fuming, I try to walk away and come back after a brief respite. I certainly don't double down on being a dick, and definitely not with a cob.
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 08:36 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Magog at January 02, 2016 08:36 PM (rwI+c)
or another and who are loud and proud in their support of him or her."
The heart and soul of our current problem is not just the corruption and incompetence of our political class, but that so many people get RAH RAH about these losers.
The problem is worse amongst the pinkos, but they are lemmings and gullible to begin with.
Posted by: Grad School Fool at January 02, 2016 08:36 PM (A9KzJ)
Papa John's, ftw. It's got HGH.
Posted by: Peyton Manning at January 02, 2016 08:36 PM (7EHW6)
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 08:38 PM (RQzsn)
I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 02, 2016 08:29 PM (dPpmC)
3 to 4 months from now when our armed forces are at max disarray from trying to integrate Women and Gays into front line combat units,...
In an election
Posted by: BB Wolf at January 02, 2016 08:39 PM (f7rv6)
Hey, that Disney shit was a put-up job.
Posted by: The Lemmings at January 02, 2016 08:39 PM (RU5ki)
Posted by: Lincolntf at January 02, 2016 08:22 PM (2cS/G)
Thanks. I just got it for free so I'm not really sure how much use it will get. I have a good pizza dough recipe and I've only made it in the cast iron skillet, so I'm curious if this will work better.
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 08:40 PM (vmMMi)
Trump in the Oval Office on day 2 of his admin. The JCS are all present. Gentlemen, you're all fired! Someone get me General Mattis on the phone!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:41 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:41 PM (C1Suc)
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Pizza stones are terrific on the grill. I was slow to adopt that method, but it's superior and the only one I use now.
You don't need a peel. Just cut a circle of parchment paper about the size of the stone, leaving one or two "tabs" of paper that you can use to pull the pizza & paper onto the pre-heated stone. Cooks fast. Then pull the pizza off (or use spatulas).
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 02, 2016 08:43 PM (t5zYU)
Posted by: JohnJ at January 02, 2016 08:44 PM (TF/YA)
Insane.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 02, 2016 08:45 PM (t5zYU)
I just pulled 10 chicken thighs off the grill earlier. They were good, but now, I wish I would've waited 'til tomorrow & had a great pizza tonight.
There are two local joints nearby that are basically fighting for each others' business. It's comical actually - I can get a ham & sausage calzone the size of a SmartCar that would easily feed a family of four for $6 now.
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 08:46 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 08:36 PM (UICf+)
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Chi, you too?
Me too! We're on the same wavelength.
I think you're my fraternal twin, separated at birth somehow. Especially cause of the doggeh stuff.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:46 PM (2x3L+)
467 On topic, I heard through my Utah connections that there are still large donors trying to make Jeb! A Thing.
Insane.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 02, 2016 08:45 PM (t5zYU)
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:47 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2016 08:47 PM (mUa7N)
You want a general to be like a Rottweiler on a leash. He scares even you, as hawkish as you might be. Whooaaa, boy, whoa! Heel, heel! He should spend his days like Buck Turgidson, pretending to be a bomber on a bombing run, or playing with toy soldiers and blowing up shit.
His entire life should be consumed with blowing up shit and killing shitheads.
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 08:47 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at January 02, 2016 08:30 PM (Nwg0u)
^^This.
I wonder if, somewhere down the road, Russia or China will use that as justification for nuking us?
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 08:48 PM (sdi6R)
Just a quibble: It would have to be Allende 2016, Pinochet 2017.
Pinochet is not electable. He had bad attitudes about Copper and will never get the Union vote.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 02, 2016 08:48 PM (q2o38)
It didn't even occur to me that I would! I'm not great with grills and mine would probably explode if I tried to use it : )
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 08:48 PM (vmMMi)
Just a quibble: It would have to be Allende 2016, Pinochet 2017.
Pinochet is not electable. He had bad attitudes about Copper and will never get the Union vote.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 02, 2016 08:48 PM (q2o38
Search the thread for Pinochet. It will be made clear to you.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:49 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:49 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: DaveA at January 02, 2016 08:49 PM (DL2i+)
The current method is for officials and cronies to do something. If the hue and cry is too much they nominally back off. Sometimes they just say they backed off but don't undo what they did.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:25 PM (PGh+Q)
Correct!....and it's high time we stop playing by the rules and worrying about the "law" since it doesn't exist anymore.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2016 08:49 PM (ej1L0)
The Malheur County Sherriff's building is empty and dark, almost all the cars are gone. They can't find or contact him.
Meanwhile, a "militia" including one of the guys from Ruby Ridge (rumors here, so I can't be sure) has supposedly taken over a government building in Malheur County.
This may be related to the Obama plan to turn a huge chunk of Malheur and Harney counties (2.5 million acres) into a national monument, taking away grazing land from ranchers. There's even been talk of Malheur leaving Oregon to become part of Idaho, because the people down there are so sick of the government of the state.
I can't find any hard data, just hearing rumors and people mentioning it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 08:50 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:50 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 08:51 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at January 02, 2016 08:51 PM (FkBIv)
I'm not a racist (I actually am a slight racist. The Sameul L. Jackson Jedi character in the prequels ruined everything. He seemed like an Affirmative Action Jedi).
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:52 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: irongrampa at January 02, 2016 08:52 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 08:52 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 08:52 PM (sdi6R)
DelFina's is good, but boring and pretentious.
The rest is spew.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:53 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Yeb! at January 02, 2016 08:53 PM (BO/km)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 08:54 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 08:54 PM (w/iDp)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 08:54 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:55 PM (kTF2Z)
Insane.
Posted by: Y-not (@moxiemom) at January 02, 2016 08:45 PM (t5zYU)
Must be the ones upset that Huntsman Fever never caught on.
And on that note I figure all of the Establishment thinks Huntsman is the perfect example of a Republican and they hate that they need to pander to all those stupid rubes across the country that actually have the audacity to think they should fight for the platform of the party they belong to. And if they don't think he's the perfect example, then they think he's too right wing.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:55 PM (zt+N6)
Finn. Storm Trooper deserter. Tried out Luke's original light saber (believe lost in Empire Strikes Back) but had limited success. It's complicated.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:55 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 02, 2016 08:56 PM (voOPb)
484 eman, if you're here still, who's the black guy in the new Star Wars?? That character bothers me beforehand.
I'm not a racist (I actually am a slight racist. The Sameul L. Jackson Jedi character in the prequels ruined everything. He seemed like an Affirmative Action Jedi).
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 08:52 PM (2x3L+)
The actor is John Boyega, a Brit. Good actor and best known to me via a scifi flick about Aliens invading a bad British neighborhood.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 08:56 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 08:57 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 08:57 PM (rwI+c)
I don't know if there's even a process for that, legally, at either the state or federal level. Has anyone ever tried?
I know parts of southern Oregon and northern California have tried to split off to form a separate state for like 60 years now. That goes nowhere because there is a process for new states being formed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 08:57 PM (39g3+)
I'm thinking he will ask her to be Secretary of State. Cruz will probably be VP.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 08:58 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:59 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Ronster at January 02, 2016 08:59 PM (mUa7N)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 02, 2016 08:59 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at January 02, 2016 09:00 PM (7EHW6)
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Really?
Thanks. I'm planning on seeing it tomorrow. It sounds complicated for sure. BBWolf said it was bad whose opinion I respect and agree with about most everything.
Expecting disappointment , hoping to leave the theater to break even.
Posted by: L, Elle at January 02, 2016 09:00 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 09:00 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 02, 2016 09:00 PM (voOPb)
John Bolton as Secy of State. Sarah would make a fine Secy of the Interior.
Posted by: Tuna at January 02, 2016 09:01 PM (JSovD)
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 09:01 PM (LRgVk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 09:02 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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In other words, just another thread at the HQ.
How are ya, Mis? Frozen yet?
(Weren't you going to go out & drill a hole in the ice this weekend?)
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:02 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 09:03 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 02, 2016 09:03 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 02, 2016 09:04 PM (ucDmr)
Apologize for the spoiler. Thought everyone had seen it by now. :-)
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 09:04 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 08:55 PM (zt+N6)
As I've mentioned before, the New York City and Hamptons crowds think Huntsman is a great Republican. That's all you need to know.
Posted by: Blano at January 02, 2016 09:04 PM (heN73)
Yes out on the ice from 9:30-4:30 today. Catching sucked. Fishing was good with my fishing bud. Ice thickness about 5"
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 02, 2016 09:04 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Tuna at January 02, 2016 09:04 PM (JSovD)
I'm hearing some rumblings, too...still waiting for some emails to come in...
Posted by: Country Singer at January 02, 2016 09:04 PM (GUBah)
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West Virginia
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 09:05 PM (w/iDp)
1) Jerry Lewis. No one ever mocked the handicapped better than Donald, EXCEPT FOR Jerry! He made a living at it.
2) Hillary. I mean, Trump has spent more contributing to :her campaigns than her last husband spent on Anna Nicole Smith!
3) OJ. Just because he's so YUUGE!
Posted by: mnw at January 02, 2016 09:05 PM (vFd8X)
Posted by: Jeb Bush
Let me show you the way.
Posted by: Joseph Stalin at January 02, 2016 09:06 PM (FkBIv)
I am not looking for the next Reagan. I am looking for the next _______ (Cruz?). Whoever is elected, I want them to lead with conviction away from tyranny and toward freedom. But they will never do that if they are trying to be someone they are not.
The one exception to this, by the way, is the choice to live one's life by the guiding principle: What would Tom Landry do?
Posted by: Sambo at January 02, 2016 09:06 PM (CwNIZ)
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West Virginia
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Also State of Franklin
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 09:07 PM (w/iDp)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at January 02, 2016 09:07 PM (7EHW6)
Seriously, I was in high school when he was running for governor against Pat Brown!!
Posted by: Joanne Hearts Cruz/Trump/Smod at January 02, 2016 09:07 PM (hgBpU)
Posted by: Sambo at January 02, 2016 09:06 PM (CwNIZ)
So you want Roger Stabuach for VP...Yeah OK I think he's a conservative?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 09:08 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: L, Elle
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Ha!
Perhaps. Now, I know you're intelligent, and obviously charming. And there's the love for four-legged critters thing. But if you tell me that you're also exceedingly attractive, talented in many fields, and have a great sense of humor, then yes - me may have been separated at birth.
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:08 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: The Thing that will fix it at January 02, 2016 09:08 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 02, 2016 09:04 PM (
Least you didn't fall in
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 09:08 PM (vmMMi)
Trump is a Hail Mary pass for me. If he does at least some of the things he talks about, we have a chance. If not, it's over. There will never be another conservative president. The coup isn't going to happen. There is no one on our side. It's their country now.
In retrospect, we lost the culture war when Johnny Carson started telling pot jokes. That was 1976 or so. Some years go by, and people suggest that people like me who have never taken illegal drugs are - well, not normal. Fast forward to the present, and people tell me that if I don't believe people of the same sex should marry, and if I don't believe that Bruce Jenner is a woman, and if I prefer the company of people who resemble me, then I'm hateful and evil, and there is no place for me in this society.
They're right. This isn't my country anymore. I grew up in the 1960's when people were convinced we were heading to the stars, and it was just a matter of time. The future was bright. But instead it slowly collapsed into a computerized dystopia, more immoral, decadent and trivial every year, moving "progressively" toward the dismantling of every human and western institution. We took a very wrong road, and we aren't in a place I ever imagined we'd be.
This is our last chance.
Posted by: despair at January 02, 2016 09:08 PM (VrdxH)
That happened because Virginia lost the Civil War.
What would it take to break off the part of Virginia from Roanoke to Bristol?
Losing another Civil War.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 09:08 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Also State of Franklin
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Well, actually, both of those were secessions.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 02, 2016 09:09 PM (w/iDp)
Debate moderator: Mr Trump, sure you through?
Trump: OH, IM JUST GETTIN WARMED UP! IF I WERE THE MAN I WAS TEN YEARS AGO I'D TAKE A FLAME THROWER TO THIS PLACE!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:09 PM (kTF2Z)
You like Reagan? You should vote for meep.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at January 02, 2016 09:09 PM (7EHW6)
Glad I stopped watching. Got the Caps/Blue Jackets on now. The only problem are the play by play guys. The Washington Capitals employ a couple of really awful announcers. Ack!
Posted by: Puddleglum@work at January 02, 2016 09:10 PM (NGd+i)
Heh. Sure, I guess. That last part wasn't necessarily related to politics.
Posted by: Sambo at January 02, 2016 09:10 PM (CwNIZ)
The Trump action figure opened the jar and told him there was candy in there.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 09:10 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: publius (not Breitbart publius) at January 02, 2016 09:10 PM (dvuhZ)
Posted by: Sambo at January 02, 2016 09:06 PM (CwNIZ)
Hand the ball to Tony Dorsett? Hmm, couldn't be much worse than anything the SCOD and John Kerry Heinz are doing.
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 09:10 PM (RQzsn)
Posted by: Sambo at January 02, 2016 09:10 PM (CwNIZ)
Everything is related to Politics or The Godfather
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 09:11 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Molly k. at January 02, 2016 09:11 PM (w/CJV)
That's because George Lucas fucked up his lines and story-arc. As a character Mace Windu was great...
... but you have to go to the Extended Universe for that. Read Matthew Stover's "Shatterpoint", if you're a SLJ fan who also likes Star Wars. I'll never forget the line I'm going to beat him like a rented gong.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM (6FqZa)
Where you going to go?
I've actually thought that a viable strategy would be for some capable men to carve themselves out a state in Mexico, Central America, or South America.
The problem is the CIA. They don't like competition.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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You know what I call that? A great Saturday. Good for you.
"Did you catch anything?"
"Yeah. We caught a buzz."
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 02, 2016 09:14 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, wanna get a cup of coffee? at January 02, 2016 09:16 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:16 PM (kTF2Z)
And they will use one first against a Sunni target, before they ever attack Israel. For all their genocidal talk, they KNOW that Israel has nukes and will fire back.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...a rube in America at January 02, 2016 08:18 PM (+1T7c)
A blog comment is too short of a space to make this argument, but the biggest reason why no Muslim country will ever nuke Israel is because they don't want to contaminate their holy city, Jerusalem, with radioactivity.
Mahdism is strong in every Muslim country, as much in Sunni countries as in Shia countries. Belief in the imminent coming (or return) of the Mahdi, or Muslim Messiah, is the dominant belief in the Islamic world and no country wants to hand over a radioactive Jerusalem to the Mahdi.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 02, 2016 09:16 PM (dPpmC)
They cheat.
Posted by: The PAC-12 at January 02, 2016 09:17 PM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 02, 2016 09:17 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:17 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:17 PM (UICf+)
I've actually thought that a viable strategy would be for some
capable men to carve themselves out a state in Mexico, Central America,
or South America.
I have occasional daydreams about subverting and converting Russia just because folks there actually seem to give half a fuck, which is a full fuck more than anyone here gives now.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 09:18 PM (m9V0o)
555 Wouldn't the Mahdi be able to withstand radiation?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:17 PM (kTF2Z)
Or turn it into skittles?
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 09:18 PM (MQEz6)
Yeah NO..Jerusalem is really only Islam's 3rd holiest city and I think they would sacrifice it to kill Jooos and Israel...Hell they already have shot missiles at it .
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 09:19 PM (DUoqb)
Just FYI.
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM (vmMMi)
But how many of them can spell "bowl" correctly?
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 02, 2016 09:19 PM (yxw0r)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:19 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Clarney at January 02, 2016 09:20 PM (dgO4h)
fapfapfapfapfapfapfap.......
Posted by: SECPN at January 02, 2016 09:20 PM (NGd+i)
Posted by: The Real Mahdi at January 02, 2016 09:20 PM (u5gzz)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM
You shut your nerd loser mouth. I didn't fuck anything up. Mace had a purple light sabre, what more do you fucking want?
Posted by: george lucas at January 02, 2016 09:21 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 09:22 PM (LRgVk)
The guy who one inch from defeat will do it.
A true ME muzz vs. muzz war will create that scenario.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 09:22 PM (MQEz6)
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No, you stink. Here's a bar of soap and some shampoo.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:22 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: The Real Mahdi
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Lassie, go fetch...
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:22 PM (UICf+)
Interesting argument.
My go-to book on Islamic Apocalyptic is (still) David Cook's book helpfully titled "Studies in Muslim Apocalyptic". You are right that Sunni apocalyptic - as well as Shi'a - holds Jerusalem as holy: Muhammad's bones will be moved to it, Jesus will return to it, the Ka'ba will be moved to it and on and on.
The caliph 'Abd al-Malik himself tried to move the Prophet's pulpit to a mosque near the Dome of the Rock.
But, the Hadith being what it is, there are interpretations of this or that. There's hadiths that predict the destruction of "Rome" (Byzantium) in retaliation for the destruction of Jerusalem. In the 600s AD this meant one thing. Now?
- Now, maybe it's a prediction that Jerusalem *should* get nuked - so that the Muslims will rally to conquer Rome (the real Rome).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:22 PM (6FqZa)
Also Reagan got shot. Unless you believe a bullet can do a 90 degree change in mid air. The official story is that it ran up the chrome. If so then why did it hit Reagan in his underarm instead of his waist? Since then no President has had a VP that is more popular with the license-to-kill agencies than the President himself. I would suggest Trump continue that policy.
Posted by: conspiracy nut at January 02, 2016 09:23 PM (PGh+Q)
565 That's because George Lucas fucked up his lines and story-arc.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:12 PM
You shut your nerd loser mouth. I didn't fuck anything up. Mace had a purple light sabre, what more do you fucking want?
Posted by: george lucas at January 02, 2016 09:21 PM (EWg9n)
A parachute would have come in handy.
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 09:23 PM (MQEz6)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 02, 2016 09:23 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 09:23 PM (zt+N6)
if muzzies weren't so anti-dog
Lassie could have gotten the imam
out of the well.
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 09:23 PM (LRgVk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 02, 2016 09:19 PM (DUoqb)
Peace will only come when one side or the other is completely defeated and in ruins ala 1945. Israel has stayed their hand out of compassion and western values. The Muslims have been trying to eliminate them since 1948 and years before that. But Israel may have no choice in the coming years and Obama has done nothing to prevent this from happening.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 02, 2016 09:24 PM (ej1L0)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:25 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at January 02, 2016 09:19 PM (yxw0r)
To quote a player from Tennessee at northwestern (who somehow managed to be ranked 13 lol): 'That GPA ain't save Northwestern on the field'
Hee.
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 09:26 PM (vmMMi)
Is the American way. That's why it is under attack. Americans are loud and boorish and have fun in the sack.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 09:28 PM (PGh+Q)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:28 PM (kTF2Z)
(who somehow managed to be ranked 13 lol): 'That GPA ain't save
Northwestern on the field'
Hee.
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 09:26 PM (vmMMi)
I doubt Einstein will be laughing after he finishes playing college football, fails to make the NFL, and ends up shoveling shit in Louisiana for a living. He might wish for a little higher GPA then.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 02, 2016 09:28 PM (oKE6c)
I was thinking more along the lines of "Timmy won't have to feed Lassie for a few days!"
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:28 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 09:23 PM (zt+N6)
If that was going to be the case the CFP wouldn't have lasted past last year.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 02, 2016 09:29 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: Charlie Sheen at January 02, 2016 09:29 PM (7EHW6)
Posted by: The Real Mahdi at January 02, 2016 09:20 PM (u5gzz)
Tell your peeps top quit wiping their asses with their hands and diddling little kids and goats and we'll think about it.
Posted by: Blano at January 02, 2016 09:29 PM (heN73)
Where you going to go?
There is no place else to go. Every western country is in the process of committing suicide.
What I can do is withdraw, and simply not care. I'm pretty much there already. I would retreat into the past, and learn as much as I can about the great culture and civilization we left behind. For someone with writing talent, it could be worthwhile to chronicle the collapse and decay as it happens, but that isn't me.
Posted by: despair at January 02, 2016 09:29 PM (VrdxH)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:29 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 02, 2016 09:28 PM (oKE6c)
We may as well be realistic about all this.
Posted by: Country Singer at January 02, 2016 09:30 PM (GUBah)
/backs up cement mixer to the well
...hey guys, did you hear something just now...?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, hither and yon at January 02, 2016 09:30 PM (m9V0o)
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 09:30 PM (LRgVk)
coarseness of Obama's nonstop insults of Republicans and anyone who does
not share his views and priorities. Despite his pre-presidential
promises of nonpartisanship, Obama has been the most grating and
vitriolic partisan president of the last 60 years.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 02, 2016 09:17 PM (e8kgV)
Who was worse?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 02, 2016 09:31 PM (T78UI)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 09:31 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: Country Singer at January 02, 2016 09:29 PM (GUBah)
Well one year is just a fluke? But two years in a row where ESPN doesn't get to give and SEC team a tongue bath for being national champs? Oh the horror.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 09:31 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: The Book of Revelations at January 02, 2016 08:31 PM (oVJmc)
Kind of. :-)
Daniel 8 lays out the scenario for a last days invasion of Sunni areas by Iran, followed at some point by what is likely a Turkish-led retaking of those areas and destruction of Iran.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 02, 2016 09:31 PM (dPpmC)
Posted by: eman at January 02, 2016 09:23 PM
Yeah, like a Mace action figure with a parachute is gonna sell. *rolls eyes*
Posted by: george lucas at January 02, 2016 09:32 PM (EWg9n)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:32 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 09:32 PM (C1Suc)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 09:31 PM (zt+N6)
Yes! Yes! Let the SEC hate flow through you!!!!
Posted by: Darth Saban at January 02, 2016 09:33 PM (GUBah)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 09:31 PM (C1Suc)
Kinda like Chicago, then?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 02, 2016 09:33 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: skip at January 02, 2016 09:32 PM (C1Suc)
I say nothing.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 02, 2016 09:34 PM (oKE6c)
http://news.yahoo.com/mexico-mayor-assassinated-one-day-taking-office-202904917.html
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:34 PM (6FqZa)
California have tried to split off to form a separate state for like 60
years now. That goes nowhere because there is a process for new states
being formed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 02, 2016 08:57 PM (39g3+)
It was the initial start to create the state of Jefferson. Part of the reason it went no-where was the kick-off date of Dec 8 1941.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 02, 2016 09:34 PM (q2o38)
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:34 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Darth Saban at January 02, 2016 09:33 PM (GUBah)
The sec is good. To say anything else is just sour grapes. The other conferences would kill for our record and the only way Ohio won was by hiring an sec coach.
Anyway my team won which is what I really care about.
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 09:35 PM (vmMMi)
https://www.facebook.com/SpaceX
I remind you that recovering an intact stage from an orbital mission has never been done before.
Western Civilization still has the chops to do great things. It's a shame that so many Westerners have been taught to hate it and undermine it.
Posted by: rickl at January 02, 2016 09:35 PM (sdi6R)
Anyway my team won which is what I really care about.
Posted by: Lea at January 02, 2016 09:35 PM (vmMMi)
You mean a MAC coach. Which is what Alabama did.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 09:36 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at January 02, 2016 09:37 PM (7EHW6)
It has been thought for a long time that the Temple has to be rebuilt before Armageddon. No Temple, No Armageddon.
One might think the US empire would have to collapse for the Temple to be rebuilt. That doesn't mean things have to get bad here in North America. No more Nuclear Carriers. Nuclear is hard to pronounce. Just ask W. F35 program probably canceled. Cut back on Nuclear Subs.
Posted by: scorecard at January 02, 2016 09:37 PM (PGh+Q)
That they rarely tout their own schools/conferences is odd.
Not sure what that means though. Prolly just coincidence.
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 09:38 PM (RQzsn)
invasion of Sunni areas by Iran, followed at some point by what is
likely a Turkish-led retaking of those areas and destruction of Iran.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 02, 2016 09:31 PM (dPpmC)
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I got an audiobook series on the Book of Daniel for Christmas. I plan on playing it whenever I need a bit of cheering up.
Posted by: grammie winger, sign of The Time at January 02, 2016 09:38 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 08:59 PM (kTF2Z)
Let them recover before you tell them what homeowners insurance costs in Texas. The upside is that, in many parts of the state, you get a new roof and gutters every 5 years or so because of wind and hail.
Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at January 02, 2016 09:39 PM (dPpmC)
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 09:40 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Quentin Tarantino at January 02, 2016 09:41 PM (7EHW6)
While I'm sitting on my keister being entertained by y'all, the dog just found and chewed up a brand new roll of expensive blue painters tape.
I didn't even get a chance to use it, man!
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:41 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 09:42 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 02, 2016 09:42 PM (NGd+i)
Posted by: seamrog at January 02, 2016 09:42 PM (LRgVk)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 02, 2016 09:42 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Martha Stewart at January 02, 2016 09:42 PM (7EHW6)
True. It's actually embarrassing.
Roll Tide!
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 09:43 PM (rwI+c)
MAC by way of Utah. Meyers goal was always OSU. We're happy he's here.
Posted by: Tuna at January 02, 2016 09:43 PM (JSovD)
I'm not saying I believe in this book myself. I am saying that Islamic jihadis might use it as a playbook, which can help non-Muslims plan out how to counter them.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:43 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 02, 2016 09:43 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 09:43 PM (6FqZa)
https://www.facebook.com/SpaceX
========
I hope this guy is on the right track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGAvLSnQZN0
Posted by: despair at January 02, 2016 09:44 PM (VrdxH)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 09:44 PM (rwI+c)
YEAH, ITS OUTRAGEOUS BABY!!!!
Posted by: Dukie V at January 02, 2016 09:44 PM (NGd+i)
At first, few people took him seriously. He was a joke, that "actor dude", an angry old anti-communist.
I'm not saying that any of the current candidates are comparable to Reagan. I'm just saying that once upon a time, Reagan wasn't Reagan either.
Posted by: Flaccid Member at January 02, 2016 09:44 PM (5fSr7)
TCU/Oregon is turning into a good one.
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 09:45 PM (RQzsn)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 09:45 PM (rwI+c)
While I'm sitting on my keister being entertained by y'all, the dog just found and chewed up a brand new roll of expensive blue painters tape.
I didn't even get a chance to use it, man!
.........
Dogs are weird. I'm sitting my keister as well eating pizza. Keep offering her the crust but not interested. Pull the toppings off to give to her and she is all over it. WTF? when I grew up our dogs ate left overs and were happy, This one is high maintenance
Posted by: Molly k. at January 02, 2016 09:46 PM (w/CJV)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 09:46 PM (rwI+c)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 09:45 PM (rwI+c)
I think its pretty recent for all of them actually.
Posted by: buzzion - Pinochet 2016! at January 02, 2016 09:47 PM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Meg Lanker-Simons at January 02, 2016 09:48 PM (AxTzt)
candidates are comparable to Reagan. I'm just saying that once upon a
time, Reagan wasn't Reagan either.
Posted by: Flaccid Member at January 02, 2016 09:44 PM (5fSr7)
Exactly. Only in retrospective do people realize what they had. Same thing happened with Lincoln, and probably Churchill as well.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 02, 2016 09:48 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Martha Stewart at January 02, 2016 09:48 PM (7EHW6)
Posted by: weirdflunky at January 02, 2016 09:48 PM (RQzsn)
Perhaps it's all a creation of the Conference Networks. Getting those eyeballs.
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 09:49 PM (rwI+c)
Yea, they've been spectacularly bad this year. The best one I've seen is Va Tech actually putting 55 on the scoreboard against Tulsa, and since they scored 52, the Hokies needed both those nickels. I had no idea that the Hokies had that offense. Where the hell has that been all year? The PSU/Georgia game was pretty good today. Bummer for PSU, played well.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 02, 2016 09:49 PM (NGd+i)
The surgery went better than expected, but he is hopped up on pain pills so the first thing he left me on my message was to complain that he was in pain.
Thank you all for your good thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 02, 2016 09:49 PM (q2o38)
Wait... are you saying I should run for President?
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 02, 2016 09:50 PM (7EHW6)
This shithead should be sleeping. He ran for hours today, we played tug-o-war with both of his favorite toys for at least an hour...
If Tucker sees me chopping vegs, he wants some.
So far, he eats (raw) carrots, celery, onions, cabbage, damn near anything.
He doesn't like garlic or jalapeņos, though. Heh.
Posted by: Chi at January 02, 2016 09:50 PM (UICf+)
Posted by: Molly K's dog at January 02, 2016 09:50 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at January 02, 2016 09:53 PM (7EHW6)
Posted by: Blano at January 02, 2016 09:56 PM (heN73)
Posted by: Open Blogger at 05:55 PM
Why do I never vote for someone, but am always voting against the opponent?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at January 02, 2016 10:01 PM (O4NI/)
Posted by: thomas 42:1 at January 02, 2016 10:04 PM (6FqZa)
Posted by: Grump928(C) says Free Soothie!, with purchase of commenter of equal or greater value at January 02, 2016 10:04 PM (rwI+c)
I'm still solidly for Trump. He's despised by the media, Establishment Quislings, and the Democrats. It's been said that you can judge a man by the quality of his enemies, and as far as I see it, he's got all the right enemies. He risks the ire of the PC crowd by making firm statements, and he doesn't just try to play nice with a hostile media like everyone else.
He's no Reagan, but he's a credible candidate in a field of wimps and sellouts. Unless you've got a cloning machine, we're not going to get a better candidate.
Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at January 02, 2016 10:10 PM (HalrA)
Hillary and Jeb just offer us sloppy joes.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at January 02, 2016 10:14 PM (6FqZa)
At some point, oil and canvas have absorbed all of the evil and infamy they can, and the remainder is reflected back at the source.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 02, 2016 10:15 PM (brIR5)
Posted by: sarahw at January 02, 2016 11:14 PM (3fTXW)
Posted by: sarahw at January 02, 2016 11:15 PM (3fTXW)
Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at January 02, 2016 11:52 PM (FtrY1)
That couldn't happen here, in part because the military wouldn't overthrow the civilian authorities, but also because they'd have to kill civilians. That the number of peole who'd throats we'd have to slit is far, far more than in Chile, is another reason why it wouldn't happen. We'd have to take out: Federal, state, and local bureaucrats; most of the entertainment (Hollywood, TV, &c) industry, tech leaders, a large percentage of college Professors, all the high level SJWs, &c.
Posted by: The Junta Hat at January 02, 2016 07:03 PM (vBeA5)
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Bullshit. The torture and murders went on for years. He also tortured and murdered socialists and unionists. For you and others to praise him is an embarrassment to conservatism.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at January 03, 2016 06:39 AM (iQIUe)
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Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 03, 2016 09:18 AM (wZtOw)
Because Jack Webb's dialect is a good example of long time native Californian, as opposed to Okie-ValleyGirl FDR era immigrant family demtard speak.
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An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)