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Jeb Bush Threatens to Kill the Republican Party
Fitting, that the Establishment should be the ones to put the gun to the sick party's head and put it out of its misery.
Jeb Bush is considering making a flat declaration that if Trump should win the nomination, he won't vote for him. Fine, except it's been the Establishment's matra forever that we must all Go Along to Get Along. Allah writes:If Jeb Bush, establishment princeling, were to declare that he’ll have no part of a Republican Party with Donald Trump as nominee, Trump fans will laugh and extend their middle fingers and other voters will marvel at how quick the elites are to abandon the GOP when it’s having a rare populist moment. The donor class are all proud Republicans right up until the moment they can’t get their way, at which point they're gone. Why should grassroots conservative continue to turn out for lackluster establishment nominees like McCain and Romney if donors won’t return the favor for Trump?Drew made a point about this a few months ago: the US Chamber of Commerce made similar noises about defecting if their agenda of corporate welfare and government hand-outs weren't greeted more solicitously. Thus the double-standard so many complain about: The Establishment tells the grassroots not to make demands, and to remain loyal to the party no matter how little of its agenda is pressed for, while the Establishment and the pampered corporate wing feel pretty damn comfortable serving up ultimatums and splitting from the party if their agenda isn't eagerly serviced. How many times has this happened? The Establishment behaves as if it has a kingly Right to Rule. How many times has a Tea Partier lost to an Establishment figure, only to dutifully endorse and campaign for the Establishment winner; and how many times has a defeated Establishment fuck turned around and betrayed the party by throwing the race to a Democrat? The hell with you. May the devil take you all. So fine: As we've been saying, Burn It Down. You're Democrats anyway; you're just more realistic than the normal Democrat about how much of your income you're willing to hand over to the government to redistribute to strangers. I'm sure you can make some compromise with them; you're good at compromising with Democrats. A 70% top marginal tax rate? Split the difference, it's all good. So go. Go, and go to hell. Maybe It's Time For The Party To Excommunicate Mike Murphy:
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Stop, Jeb.
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) December 16, 2015Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: RioBravo at December 16, 2015 04:21 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:21 PM (84ei8)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 16, 2015 04:21 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: Speaker Paul Ryan at December 16, 2015 04:21 PM (LYCUN)
Ima do that any way.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:22 PM (r1DzX)
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 16, 2015 04:23 PM (t2KH5)
Posted by: Does this leg smell gammy? at December 16, 2015 04:23 PM (ZY81i)
This has to be a joke. Bush thinks how he votes make any difference in the world?
Really? I knew he was dumb as shit, but this is unbelievable.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2015 04:23 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2015 04:23 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Parisian mob at December 16, 2015 04:23 PM (/FOB4)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 04:23 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Cake at December 16, 2015 04:23 PM (BngQR)
Posted by: kahall at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (ARt6v)
Posted by: Lea at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: L, Elle at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (3DW38)
Or they want to give him an out cause he's signaled he's not going to run if he doesn't win the first few primaries.
Who knows what they shit weasels are doing?
Do they even know?
As usual, the GOPe lets off a 155mm howitzer aimed at their big toe.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (Xo1Rt)
And maybe while we're at it, a new nation carved from the interior of the current one.
Posted by: Blano at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (NHQQx)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (7RXcs)
Thanks, Jeb, for reminding me of that brat.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (NOIQH)
CAKE!
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (BPgj1)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (LA7Cm)
declared Wednesday in the trial of Baltimore Police Officer William G.
Porter, after jurors told a judge it could not reach a verdict on any of
the four charges against him.
Posted by: Colin at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (T3Tpd)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (qSIlh)
Just this ashtray... And this paddle game. - The ashtray and the paddle
game and that's all I need... And this remote control. - The ashtray,
the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need... And
these matches. - The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control,
and the paddle ball... And this lamp. - The ashtray, this paddle game,
and the remote control, and the lamp, and that's all *I* need. And
that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need
this. - The paddle game and the chair, and the remote control, and the
matches for sure. Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm
some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (4ErVI)
normal Democrat about how much of your income you're willing to hand
over to the government to redistribute to strangers."
I suspect you'll find that most of the GOP establishment are not, in fact, handing that much of their incomes over to the government.
They want for those in the serf class to pay more in taxes, to be sure.
Themselves? Eh, not so much. That's what all of those carefully legislatively designed tax shelters and carveouts and loopholes are meant for.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (3DW38)
Posted by: Bob Dole at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (/FOB4)
Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (cL79m)
Jeb Bush is considering making a flat declaration that if Trump should win the nomination, he won't vote for him. Fine, except it's been the Establishment's matra forever that we must all Go Along to Get Along.
Didn't the GOP make a huge fuss about how Trump had to sign a pledge not to run independent? Why the actual fuck is that not reciprocal?
The one thing about this horrible election cycle to which I am looking forward, rather keenly, is shoving people's faces in the shit that has been spewed at me for the last 20 years about obligations to vote GOP no matter what.
Why, yes, I do, in fact, have a list. Yes, yes, I do.
I hereby await those who will defend this, just so I can update the list.
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (84ei8)
Ace, this can't be correct and I would point you to Reince Prebius' statement some months ago that all candidates pledged in writing to support the eventual nominee, regardless of who that person turned out to be. They each gave their word, Ace!
Surely we can trust them at their word...
Posted by: MTF at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (5ZRXN)
It's not Jebs voters that would matter here, per se, it's his donors and political allies.
If top R donors sit out this round -- or more likely, spend money to defeat trump in the general -- well...
Yeah.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (AkOaV)
CAKE!
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (BPgj1)
It's a lie.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: John McCain at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (LYCUN)
Perhaps I have adopted some of Islam's attitudes after all:
Kneel, or burn, bitches.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: 27 generals and admirals at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: rickl at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: L, Elle at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: RioBravo at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (NUqwG)
Bob, you forget telling Andrea Mitchell - just last week! - that if Trump is the nominee you'd "forget" to vote.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (NOIQH)
declared Wednesday in the trial of Baltimore Police Officer William G.
Porter, after jurors told a judge it could not reach a verdict on any of
the four charges against him.
Posted by: Colin at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (T3Tpd)
So at least one person in Baltimore has the integrity to say, Hell no, I am not going to railroad this guy to appease the BLM and rioters.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (kXoT0)
Well to be fair some of us have been there since '12...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: kevlarchick at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (qwwfd)
Posted by: 27 generals and admirals at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (cL79m)
speaking of Mitt, didn't his father refuse to support Goldwater in 1964? RINO is as always was.
Posted by: Satan back on the job at December 16, 2015 04:25 PM (qSIlh)
It was worst than that, he worked against Goldwater.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (jJRIy)
"Former U.S. Senator Prescott Bush, a moderate Republican from Connecticut, was a friend of Goldwater and supported him in the general election campaign. Bush's son, George H. W. Bush (then running for the Senate from Texas against Democrat Ralph Yarborough), was also a strong Goldwater supporter in both the nomination and general election campaigns."
so I guess Jeb! is just bucking the family tradition of, you know, party loyalty. I wonder what W will have to say if Trump is the nominee? Maybe he'll be true to form and decline to answer.
Posted by: Satan back on the job at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (MbrzC)
Jeb just decided the issue for me. Farouk him; Trump gets the nod, and I'll be the one making up for Jeb's desertion. There are issues on which I'll have to hold my nose, but I'll do it.
That being said, I'm still with Cruz.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: !Jeb! at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (gmeXX)
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Are you sure? One of his forefathers smoked cigars.
Posted by: RioBravo at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (NUqwG)
And the entire GOPe from talking heads to opinion people to the people who hand out walking around money to the state R parties who get signatures on ballots etc. etc. etc. all refuse to help Trump...
Especially after McCain and Romney and the GOPe's insistence that conservatives vote for the R nominee regardless of who it is... I don't know.
We'll see. I think the R party is fine with being a permanent minority again.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (3DW38)
Read my lips. No. New. Taxes.
Islam is a religion of peace.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: @votermom at December 16, 2015 04:30 PM (kmj3n)
Posted by: 27 generals and admirals at December 16, 2015 04:30 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 16, 2015 04:30 PM (LXJ1e)
Does he think this will change peoples' minds? or is it just his way of quitting?
Either way: Buh buh jebster.
DLTDKHYOTAOYWO
Barb will be so proud of you!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 04:30 PM (Xo1Rt)
I think because we're hearing this from a variety of GOP establishment types - Dole, Kristol, etc. - they're sending the message that they will do whatever it takes to defeat Trump if he is the nominee. If I can't have a candidate I like, then I'll make sure nobody wins.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:30 PM (NOIQH)
I don't think there is a large contingent of reagan democrats left.
I think the demographic tide has turned (for now at least) in favor of the D's.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:31 PM (AkOaV)
Ok, we just need one more link in the chain and Obama will have to stay on for another four years until all this chaos gets sorted out. Come on people; work with me here. This is doable. Find the missing link. Make it happen.
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 04:31 PM (BPgj1)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 04:31 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: @votermom
Jeb sounds like just the guy to lead America, comrades.
Posted by: Vladimir Putin at December 16, 2015 04:31 PM (/FOB4)
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2015 04:28 PM (jJRIy)
*****
That which is old becomes new again. I fully expect Bush to work in favor of Scankles if Trump wins the nom.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:31 PM (84ei8)
That which is old becomes new again. I fully expect Bush to work in favor of Scankles if Trump wins the nom.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:31 PM (84ei
I think he'd more work against Trump (outside ads) then FOR hillary. Although the results would be the same.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:32 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: homer simpson at December 16, 2015 04:32 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 04:32 PM (Ypc8j)
Posted by: @votermom at December 16, 2015 04:30 PM (kmj3n)
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Bully for Trump!
Posted by: Theo Door Rose Veldt at December 16, 2015 04:32 PM (NUqwG)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 16, 2015 04:32 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 04:32 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: m at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (d4uu4)
Yeah.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:26 PM (AkOaV)
As much as I think Trump is an idiot, people are not going to sit out on this election. We don't win, the country is gone.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Poppy Bush at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (M1uf/)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Shaftoe at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (ixwZz)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (tEDMc)
It means that Trump has the nomination locked up and everyone knows it. Everyone's internal polls likely show it to be the case. It's likely Trump worked out a deal with Cruz and Carson of some kind (VP, AG who knows).
It's why he pledged last night in the debate to not run 3rd party and is honored to be the Republican nominee. He knows it is his now.
We're well past the deadline for Trump to 'implode' or "Decide he's done", anything else for Jeb/Rubio/Katshit to come in and pick up the pieces.
It's over, Trump has the nom.
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (13W9U)
Kneel, or burn, bitches.
Texas kneel for no man.
Burn MOTHERFVCKER
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (r1DzX)
to run independent? Why the actual fuck is that not reciprocal?
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Because equality only goes one way.
Posted by: your gope betters at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (ZbV+0)
I think because we're hearing this from a variety of GOP establishment types - Dole, Kristol, etc. - they're sending the message that they will do whatever it takes to defeat Trump if he is the nominee. If I can't have a candidate I like, then I'll make sure nobody wins.
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Makes sense - though a fight led by Dole and Jeb probably isn't going very far. If Trump wins over 50%, he should be the nominee. But he shouldn't be entitled to anyone's vote. Neither Jeb's nor mine. If he doesn't get a majority, then he is not entitled to the nomination. Let Trump earn it at the convention.
I gotta say I'm not a Trump supporter, the best way to make me one is for the Jeb's/Dole's of the GOP to try to sink his nomination.
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (3ZtZW)
I get the impression George used to thump on Jeb on a regular basis and Jeb would run and hide behind mommy's skirt.
Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (BngQR)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM (13W9U)
not necessarily... but yes, very likely.
He has led in the polls big time for months now. I don't see how that changes between now and Iowa and NH.
It could... it is politics after all, anything could happen. But we'll see.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:35 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:35 PM (NOIQH)
Bye Jeb. You and your lying bastard family won't be missed.
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 04:32 PM (Ypc8j)
I was at the 80 convention, we knew when Reagan picked Bush instead of Kemp the party was fucked.
Seriously. It started then.
Posted by: Nip Sip at December 16, 2015 04:35 PM (jJRIy)
You misheard me. I distinctly said no new Texas.
You'll get no new taxes easier.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:35 PM (r1DzX)
/curious
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (3ZtZW)
Because depending on your State's laws it effects who you can vote for in the Primaries.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2015 04:35 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 16, 2015 04:35 PM (iQIUe)
In another picture we have thousands who PAID to show up to a Trump rally.
Who do you think matters most?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 04:35 PM (Xo1Rt)
We'll see. I think the R party is fine with being a permanent minority again.
yep, they still get paid, still get the graft, still hang out with the same people either way
Posted by: brak at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (xwPSp)
Jihadis are attacking people at Christmas parties.
Cities with race problems are getting ready to burn, because people won't accept judgments handed down by a jury of peers.
But Jeb thinks it's okay to be a whiny bitch, and take his toys and run because the unwashed masses don't want to vote for him. He's not saying this about Trump, he is saying this about those of us who vote for someone else. How dare we not give him his chance to sit in the White House?
Listen up you asshole, that is the PEOPLE'S house. Not the Bush house, the Clinton House, or any one person's. We pay for it, we should have the right to decide who goes in it.
Posted by: Moki at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (7q2ch)
Let 'er rip Tumbleweeds, burn it all down.
Posted by: lincoln cadillac at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (i9Nzz)
Yes. I would. Not because it would influence me to vote the way he does, or because I care about his opinion per se, but because it would signal the final "F*ck you" from the Republican Party to actual conservatives.
If Jeb Bush actually comes out and says, "I won't vote for Trump if he's the nominee," I will do what I can (not that there's a lot, but I'll do it anyway) to burn the party to the ground.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (M1uf/)
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I think it foolish to believe that Trump has this thing sewn up before one vote has been cast.
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Grimaldi at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (loB7i)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (r1DzX)
We'll see. I think the R party is fine with being a permanent minority again.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:29 PM (AkOaV)
*****
Agreed. In 08, when the Country was pissed about War, they nomjnated the biggest Warmonger they had. In 12, BarryCare was the issue and they put up the one and only that could not run against it. 16, illegals are the issue and they want open borders Yeb.
It's almost as if this is being done on purpose. Almost.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (84ei8)
I think the demographic tide has turned (for now at least) in favor of the D's.
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I live in Reagan Democrat country. There are a LOT of D's here that I've spoken to in the past few months who really, really like Trump because he's sticking it to "The Man."
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (fBkaR)
/curious
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (3ZtZW)
Yes, because closed primary. Otherwise I would quit the party and send them a scathing letter explaining why.
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: yobobbyb at December 16, 2015 04:37 PM (zdCuc)
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 16, 2015 04:27 PM (r1fLd)
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He just doesn't learn he stupidly takes the media bait every fking time, instead of just ignoring it and otherwise answering the question, what are we on debate 6, and after each one he's attacked DT and it's resulting in lower polls...so he keeps doing it, and he calls DT insane?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 04:37 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Blano at December 16, 2015 04:37 PM (uiVGU)
yep, they still get paid, still get the graft, still hang out with the same people either way
Not when you vote against all incumbents.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:37 PM (r1DzX)
Posted by: jwest at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (Zs4uk)
Um, way to show you don't have the cajones to deal with the likes of Putin and Iran.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (9JJgN)
Yup. the only reason I stay R.
I don't know why, by the time PA votes, the candidate is pretty much been chosen. At least the last two elections that's been the case.
The Democrats won't allow the primary to be moved just because they know it would help the GOP of PA have some power.
Politics is like kindergarten.
Little brats arguing over the toys.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (Xo1Rt)
They don't believe the voters are that intelligent. So they'll pull some procedural maneuver at the convention which they think very few will understand.
Except the result is still the same. Tyranny under a different name by people who cloak themselves in a mask of individual liberty and freedom.
They're nothing but a bunch of petty dictators, converse only to Democrats in their different list of demands. None of which have anything to do with a majority of people who vote for them.
I wouldn't piss on people like Bush if he was on fire. Fucking dribbling baby. This is grade-school level shit from a guy who is more prepared for clown school than the presidency.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (GGCsk)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (ucDmr)
Or am I being naive?
Posted by: JoeF. at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (3DW38)
Sounds about right.
Posted by: McNease at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (LHS8g)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:31 PM (84ei
Considering Trump will work in favor of Scankles whether or not he wins the "GOP" nomination, it's ironically fitting.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (kpqmD)
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:36 PM (gmeXX)
As Master Yoda said, always in motion is the future.
That being said, I don't know that there is precedence for someone leading handily in the polls for months and months to go from clear #1 to not winning the nom. It may have happened in the past, I don't know. But at this point, I'd say its less and less likely that Trump doesn't win yuge in the early states at least.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (AkOaV)
Don't you dare swat me on the butt with that rolled up newspaper, either.
Mommy!
*sucks thumb vigorously*
Posted by: GnuBreed, channeling Jeb! at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (AkOaV)
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Not, I, despite the pledge I've never expected him to actually do it, best he would do is stay quite and just funnel money to Hillary.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (MbrzC)
Or am I being naive?
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I don't know if that is true. Did Obama need the Dem apparatus or did he create his own?
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (gmeXX)
Meh, I wouldn't want him to get hit by a truck. The ensuing accident might tie up traffic for hours.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread
https://youtu.be/ZG-VB5xb6KM
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (FkBIv)
What do you think would happen if Trump was the nominee? Well, despite the laughable delusions of his supporters, he wouldn't win for starters. He would lose badly against Hillary, as evidenced by all those head-to-head polls. (Oh, right, we're only supposed to listen to some polls... or some whiny garbage like that.)
And in the event of Trump losing badly, what happens after that? Oh, right, the very establishment weenies that you keep complaining about will say, "You got your way and look what happened. We told you so, so next time listen to us." In fact, they will take a Trump loss as complete vindication of their positions and shout down any potential 2020 candidates that didn't line up.
Maybe if you all stopped whining like little babies, maybe then you would realize that. Try thinking objectively and more than half a step ahead. Oh, right, thinking is not the strong suit of people who advocate "let it burn." Hi, I live in America and have seen how Obama has made a mess of things. Just because you're frustrated with a handful of politicians doesn't mean I, my family, and my friends have to suffer and risk living under four or more years of Hillary Clinton.
To be blunt, grow up already, you whiners.
Posted by: tops116 at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (Wn+fE)
Posted by: Tuna at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (Cszmt)
Posted by: L, Elle at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: Marcus T at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (GGCsk)
Could be republican, and I'm too lazy to change it, though, like Bush, I have threatened to have my name removed from the voter rolls to prevent the majority democrats from casting a vote in my name, as thought it would make a difference.
I come here to vent, and for the cake!
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 04:40 PM (BPgj1)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2015 04:40 PM (7MWCL)
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 04:40 PM (Ypc8j)
"Spanish Prime Minister Rajoy Punched by Teenager at Campaign Stop"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hdRHlKszH8
Posted by: Marcus T at December 16, 2015 04:41 PM (GGCsk)
Or am I being naive?
Posted by: JoeF. at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (3DW3
I don't know. I think the GOPe would rather be a minority party under Clinton than win with Trump.
Especially if the GOP holds the house and senate. I think they like their set up as it is. They can say whatever they need to to get votes, then say "can't do nuffin bout it. Dem president."
With Trump as president, they'd be expected to follow through on their campaign promises. Which they don't want to do.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:41 PM (AkOaV)
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I live in Reagan Democrat country. There are a LOT of D's here that I've spoken to in the past few months who really, really like Trump because he's sticking it to "The Man."
The demographic that covers--blue collar whites, short of college education--is fading as a percentage of population. Obama's margin came from educated whites, buttressed by bloc voting in blacks and Hispanics. (Though given participation and numbers, those last two would have to roughly reverse voting patterns to throw things to the GOP.)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 16, 2015 04:41 PM (9krrF)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 16, 2015 04:41 PM (kXoT0)
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There is a lot in this election of which there is no precedence. Anything can happen. He may very well win. I thought he was capped out at about 30-35% but he has seemingly picked up some percentage points. Events have probably helped him. What will happen as the field narrows? Will he really be able to pull in a majority of the delegates. I still have my doubts, but a lot of that is simply because this is such a new phenomena.
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:42 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016
How about a long cool woman in a black dress?
Posted by: Hollies at December 16, 2015 04:42 PM (FkBIv)
Evil Corky walks on the set holding a gun to his head, "I'm holding this show hostage...."
Director: "What are your demands Evil Corky?"
"I want a Whoppah...and onion rings dammit!"
Director: "Let me think on it..."
Fuck you GOP....go ahead I am 75% certain you c*cksuckers refusing to go for the throat the last five years has elected HILLARY! anyway....
better for the 40% of the American people you don't represent to get a dose of reality on how well their donations have served their desires.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 04:42 PM (g8Hfr)
Anyway, it just isn't worth the hassle or the contempt anymore. They won't listen to me, they certainly wouldn't work to help me if I got fired or whatever because I'm registered with them. Did it help those poor folks who got audited, or the WI people who donated to Walker? No. Not a bit. GOP didn't even kick up the merest fuss esp in the latter case.
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 04:42 PM (3ZtZW)
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I think you overestimate the worth of campaigns and GOTV and so forth. As do all the people who make a bundle running those shams every four years.
Think about it seriously. Do you change your mind on whether to vote or who to vote for because of a TV ad? Do you go vote because someone pesters you over the phone to do so?
If not, why do you think anyone else does?
Yes of course the campaigns say this stuff is important and that's why they need your donations. But nearly all of them are about promoting people to places in government where they then spend their time lying to you about how helpful government can be, and that's why they need to tax the shit out of you.
Honestly, I hope the entire political establishment comes out against Trump. Because then we'll finally have a chance to prove NONE OF THEM MATTER.
Posted by: Methos at December 16, 2015 04:42 PM (ZbV+0)
Posted by: Satan back on the job at December 16, 2015 04:42 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: The Jeb Bush Campaign Slogan Evaluation Committee at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: 27 generals and admirals"
Not The Craw. THE CRAW!!
Posted by: The Craw at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (OD2ni)
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I think it foolish to believe that Trump has this thing sewn up before one vote has been cast.
Of course anything can happen, and they are relying on historic assumptions at this date in the game that he has it locked up. Jeb promised the donors in late October that Trump would have been done by December 15th. That obviously hasn't happened.
But there are other tells as well. Kristol has come around to Trump for instance. Keep an eye out - one by one, they'll come slithering around and start sucking up to him. They're not going to realistically put up any sort of real opposition, they need the work and can't afford to piss off Trump.
All this noise and fury from Jeb is his death rattle, his last ditch effort.
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (13W9U)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (cL79m)
*****
I see. Score another vote for "Trump is only going to all this trouble to be a spoiler for Hillary".
Makes total sense. Yeah.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (84ei8)
My third-party, Conservative Party dream won't happen til then.
Actually, it's time for us to go six or eight parties. Go full South America.
Posted by: FishingWithFredo at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (INiW9)
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 04:33 PM
Could be. But even if he doesn't have it sewed up yet, Heb!'s non-support should give him a positive rise in the polls.
I can see the other candidates saying "Uhhhh, Juan? Please don't endorse me...."
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (ykopX)
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (0NdlF)
precedence for someone leading handily in the polls for months and
months to go from clear #1 to not winning the nom. It may have happened
in the past, I don't know. But at this point, I'd say its less and less
likely that Trump doesn't win yuge in the early states at least.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:38 PM (AkOaV)
Let's ask 2007 Republican nominee Rudy Giuliani about that.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (Nj2wY)
Pakistani officials said on Wednesday the country was not consulted before the nation was announced as a member of the 34-country bloc.
LMAO
Kinda like looking for moderate muslims
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (DUoqb)
Umm Trump is doing about the same as the rest of the field in head to head with Hillary with registered voters. At least according to RCP averages.
Slightly behind, but within MoE for the most part.
So that's not really a good argument against Trump.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: donna at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (8ZskC)
Yup...
a Bush for God's sakes is making demands on the GOP his family put in the f**king wilderness for 8 years minimum....
go ahead Yeb do it.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (g8Hfr)
The one thing Trump should have said when he promised not to go third party:
"I won't so long as if I win the nomination, the GOP won't run Mitt Romney as an independent."
Drop mic.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (uRmWf)
They are also hinting that he has bi polar tho others claim that it is Sanders.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2015 04:45 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: MTF at December 16, 2015 04:45 PM (5ZRXN)
Posted by: Joe Mama at December 16, 2015 04:45 PM (j/0iw)
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 04:45 PM (Ypc8j)
I mean, Cake? Really?
That cover is just awful. Just. Awful.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2015 04:45 PM (JIElb)
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I agree that Jeb doesn't have much left, but I don't see Cruz and Rubio giving up quite so easy - or Christie for that matter if he can move up.
Whatever the result, it is looking more interesting than that time we had to choose among Mitt, Newt, or Santorum.
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:45 PM (gmeXX)
Good times, good times.
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (mf5HN)
In what way exactly would the result of the Presidential election be different this time as opposed to the last two?
Seems to me it makes no difference at all.
They lose with ICP support and without it.
Trump isn't my guy but there's no way in hell I'm voting for JEB.
I've done the good soldier thing the last two times.
Pass.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (X+nFp)
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (3ZtZW)
It has been shown in the past, when establishment candidates don't win primaries and then don't back the nominee, that it does indeed make a difference.
Usually the democrat wins. Because the "good" republicans have the okey dokey from above to sit out or cross the aisle.
Ace's phrasing couldn't be better, by the way. It's like he reached inside AngryJacks head and pulled the anger and the words verbatim.
Well, not verbatim, Ace uses better words, arranged more better. That's why he blogs and I comment. But he captured the mood.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (kKHcp)
To be blunt, grow up already, you whiners.
Posted by: tops116
Concern
[ ] Noted
[x] Not Noted
Thank you for your vote.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (r1DzX)
Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (BngQR)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 16, 2015 04:46 PM (iQIUe)
slithering around and start sucking up to him.
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM
When Tepid Air shows any hint of approval of Teh Donald, we'll know the primary campaign is effectively over.
And that we have entered a strange new universe.
Posted by: MrScribbler at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (ykopX)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2015 04:40 PM (7MWCL)
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It's like: "Huge men"
Posted by: Theo Door Rose Veldt at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (NUqwG)
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97 Anybody still registered GOP? Why?
/curious
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 04:34 PM (3ZtZW)
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Probably cause their state may require the registration to vote in the R primary?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Blano at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (sdPF/)
A) is truly ignorant of the mood of the base and nation.
B) knows the mood and does not care.
I think it's somewhere in the middle. I think they can't believe if one of theirs gets the nod again that we'd all stay home.
THE GOP IS DEAD. WORSE-IT'S A MUTANT WING OF THE DEMOCRATS.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (cL79m)
Rudy was ahead by double digits less than 2 months before the first primary in pretty much every national and early primary state poll?
I'm not saying it can't happen, but the closer we get to early February and Iowa caucus and NH primary, the less likely it is that Trump loses. In early states at least.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (AkOaV)
Whoopsy.
Posted by: Saudi Arabia at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (LA7Cm)
The IMA. As in IMA KEEL YOU!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (ftVQq)
Makes total sense. Yeah.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:43 PM (84ei
More sense than you think. First, remember Trump only got in after
he consulted with noted Repub...er...DemocRAT Bill Clinton. Then
consider that his ego wouldn't stand 4 years of having Trump Inc. in a
blind trust (assuming he isn't impeached and convicted for enriching
Trump Inc. at the expense of the Treasury first).
It's all about enriching Trump Inc.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: tops116 at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (Wn+fE)
How's President Romney working out?
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (mf5HN)
Putz likes Trump? Oh,Oh, that's the kiss of death...
Posted by: donna at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (iQIUe)
I thought he was supposed to be the smart Bush brother???
Posted by: antisocialist at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: Stuart Stevens at December 16, 2015 04:49 PM (5ZRXN)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 04:49 PM (YjDyJ)
The Consultancy Class of the GOP needs to make payments on the beach house, the his/hers AMGs, Buffy and Biff's tuitions, the staff salaries, etc., etc. They also need those K street jobs for Buffy and Biff when they finally graduate after changing majors eight times apiece. So if it''s really really really Trump, they are going to fall in line reluctantly to be sure, but, slowly and surely they. Hell, its not like they MIND being on a losing team. In fact, they might not know what to do with themselves if they were on a winning team.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 16, 2015 04:49 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: tops116 at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (Wn+fE)
How did President McCain work out?
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:49 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Vyceroy at December 16, 2015 04:49 PM (HI7nL)
I think Jeb's been told to quit so Rubio can try his best.
Sorry Dondi, you've got almost as much baggage as Jeb. Close enough though.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 04:49 PM (Xo1Rt)
Whoopsy.
Posted by: Saudi Arabia
We called. Someone answered. Said "go with that".
We did.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (r1DzX)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Bob Dole at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (8ZskC)
The IMA. As in IMA KEEL YOU!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (FkBIv)
KSA forgot rule one of islam: Kill all the non-islamic infidels FIRST, then you can proceed to kill all the islamic infidels that don't agree with you exact interpretation of the "book".
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: tops116 at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (Wn+fE)
How did President Dole work out?
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (mf5HN)
And it is my hope that if things go badly for him in the primary, he will evince the statesmanship he's been laying claim to all these months.
Then again, he could throw a bigger hissy fit than Jeb. Time will tell.
Posted by: GnuBreed, channeling Jeb! at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (gyKtp)
President Queeg did a helluva job taking over when President Dole finally limped off into the sunset...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: tops116 at December 16, 2015 04:39 PM (Wn+fE)
Oh and ORCA.
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (DLIIY)
I tell people we have to teach them a lesson. Many say well if you don't vote for the establishment guy...then Dem X wins. Well there is very little difference. If we keep going with the flow nothing changes. May as well lose a few to let the establishment know we actually want change. If they are unwilling to change even after this...screw em. Time for another party.
Posted by: Predator Intel at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (llNQ1)
They do that a lot. But at the same time I don't really care if the outsider/Tea Party candidate doesn't support the Establishment figure. Why? Because they are the outsider. When the Establishment hack does it, it is very bad though. Because they are the Establishment. They are supposed to be the "Trust in the system, follow the rules laid out and things will work for you too. You may not get everything you want immediately but this is the way the system works." But suddenly the system doesn't work in their favor and its Take my ball and go home? Its bullshit.
Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Juan McCain at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (/FOB4)
Battle of the titans or retard fight?
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 04:51 PM (Ypc8j)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (cL79m)
****
If it was about enriching Trump Inc., then he would stay with Trump Inc. and make metric fucktons more money there than 4-8 years of making 400k a year, dontcha think?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:51 PM (84ei8)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 16, 2015 04:51 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 04:51 PM (BPgj1)
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:52 PM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 04:52 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 16, 2015 04:52 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 16, 2015 04:52 PM (OD2ni)
DO NAUGHT FOGET MAH ONYUN RANGS!
//Evil Corky with a gun to his head
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 04:52 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2015 04:52 PM (z/Ubi)
My gut is it's going to be some combo of Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump. Possibly Cruz/Sessions.
And Cruz has a very savvy tech department. They have seen ORCA in action and will avoid like plague.
So will Trump.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:52 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (FsuaD)
The fighters six F-15Cs from the 48th Fighter Wing and six F-15Es from the 48th Fighter Wing will be returning to Europe. The U.S. will still maintain a dozen A-10 Warthog close-air support fighters at the base, located about 100 miles from the border with Syria.
???
Curious move?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (DUoqb)
The Red State link in the post says that Jeb's team is going to try to take Rubio out of the race as "punishment" for his "betrayal".
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (YjDyJ)
And even apart from that, I would prefer Jeb to Rubio, because Jeb doesnt lie about his useless centrism. You can have a debate about his faults. Rubio just lies straight to your face and tries to pretend his own rotten record away.
Posted by: The Nayden Broad at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (MlFVs)
he consulted with noted Repub...er...DemocRAT Bill Clinton. Then
consider that his ego wouldn't stand 4 years of having Trump Inc. in a
blind trust (assuming he isn't impeached and convicted for enriching
Trump Inc. at the expense of the Treasury first).
It's all about enriching Trump Inc.
His daughter already runs a fairly good portion of it, does she not? I can see him handing the reins over and planning to retire after leaving the White House.
In my dreams he tabs Cruz for VP and steps aside to retire after 6 years to allow Cruz the full 10.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (Nj2wY)
Posted by: Bob Dole at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (8ZskC)
Hence Trump's cool last night.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (FkBIv)
Sushi/Malaria '24!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:54 PM (uRmWf)
So has Begonia weighed in yet on the wonderful trustworthiness and moral character of Yeb! yet?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 16, 2015 04:41 PM (kXoT0)
Haven't seen Begonia, but I believe I did see the label of her support hose.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2015 04:54 PM (7MWCL)
BUCK UP Lindsey you'll always be my cabana boy!
//Juan Queeg slathered in SPF1500
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 04:54 PM (g8Hfr)
As someone living in AZ, I know that he'll just run as an independent and win. And AZ makes 3rd party runs easier than most states. It sucks.
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 04:54 PM (Ypc8j)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (YjDyJ)
Want popcorn?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 04:54 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (mf5HN)
Solid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:55 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Weasel at December 16, 2015 04:55 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (cL79m)
Rudy was ahead by double digits less than 2 months before the first primary in pretty much every national and early primary state poll?
I'm not saying it can't happen, but the closer we get to early February and Iowa caucus and NH primary, the less likely it is that Trump loses. In early states at least.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (AkOaV)
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I was going to say the same thing, with the addition that Guiliani's strategery was to bypass Iowa, NH, and SC and dominate in Florida to win. He basically gave up in the first three states.
By contrast, Trump is about tied in Iowa, and ahead in NH, SC and Florida.
Not the same situation.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 16, 2015 04:55 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: DaveA at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (YjDyJ)
Want popcorn?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 04:54 PM (8ZskC)
That would, as the analysis states, hand the nom to Cruz (or Trump).
Ha!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (uRmWf)
I had a horrible thought earlier that movie theaters tomorrow could be a very enticing target to jihadis.
If you go, BE CAREFUL. Make sure you know where all the exits are and, if possible, go armed.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (oDCMR)
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I agree that Jeb doesn't have much left, but I don't see Cruz and Rubio giving up quite so easy - or Christie for that matter if he can move up.
Whatever the result, it is looking more interesting than that time we had to choose among Mitt, Newt, or Santorum.[/]
I think Cruz and Trump cut some kind of deal. The way they acted like pals at the debate. Trump is known for his many deals after all.
Like I mentioned earlier. I think the internal polls for the various candidates all show they have no chance.
Every single candidate's plan A was "Wait for Trump to implode/get bored, and pick up the pieces."
We all know the stuff Trump has said that has said that has sent the media and establishment types to the fainting couch - and he has survived every single time. The implosion is becoming less and less likely. At this stage, he's essentially bulletproof.
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (13W9U)
passed already. On current trajectory he'll go into the Convention with
at least a large plurality of delegates. It looks like he and Cruz
already have an "understanding." The GOP establishment knows realizes
that if they try to screw Trump at the Convention by throwing it to the
likes of Jeb or Mitt, that Trump / Cruz / Carson voters will stay home
so that Republican Senators and Congressmen will lose.
Hence Trump's cool last night.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (r1fLd)
Not disagreeing with your assessment, but... Carson (still) has voters?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (TOk1P)
It's like being gummed by a newt.
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (LAe3v)
The Red State link in the post says that Jeb's team is going to try to take Rubio out of the race as "punishment" for his "betrayal".
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (YjDyJ)
In this election, Marco Rubio is playing the part of "Senator Barack Obama" to Jebbie's "Hillary Clinton". It was supposed to be Bush's turn, and the nomination was just a formality. Except for the Cuban kid from Florida who stole all his damn thunder.
Posted by: antisocialist at December 16, 2015 04:57 PM (cDs+4)
A) is truly ignorant of the mood of the base and nation.
B) knows the mood and does not care
I think they're like the "What's the Matter with Kansas" dude in that they sense a disturbance in the force, but they are so incapable of understanding what it's about that they fall back on the easiest explanation for the DC elite to believe. Something along the lines of 'stupid voters don't understand how things work around here.'
Sort of like ho every time there's a big GOP win the MSM characterizes it as a "temper tantrum."
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:57 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (4ErVI)
And shoot Achmed al-Greedo first.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:57 PM (uRmWf)
This clears the way for George P. Bush
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (FkBIv)
I don't doubt for a moment that the Bush family is considering that right now.
Just imagine a GPB/Meggie McCain ticket. *__*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2015 04:57 PM (FsuaD)
When Trump wins, we need to encourage him and all other republican office holders to ignore the law.
For far too many years, democrats have played the one-sided game of making us follow the laws while they did whatever they felt like. The worst examples have been the selective investigations and prosecutions of republicans just for intimidation and punishment.
Behavior like this normally is kept in check by a reasonable media, but the MSM has joined in with the left to ignore outrages committed by the left "for the cause".
We now have the vast majority of public offices. Once we have the federal executive, we need to investigate and prosecute with prejudice as many left wing politicians, functionaries, journalists and others as it takes to send the message that we're never to be fucked with again.
Fuck them fast, fuck them hard, fuck them all.
Posted by: jwest at December 16, 2015 04:57 PM (Zs4uk)
For those who can't see the image:
A vote for a Democrat is an act of Treason
A vote for a Republican is an act of Stupidity
Posted by: Rusty Bill at December 16, 2015 04:57 PM (OweXm)
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (mf5HN)
Darn. We missed the chance to change the traditional form of address for a US president to "Your Protuberance" by this much.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (oDCMR)
Wait'll he gets this thing up to 88 MPH, then you're going to see some serious sh*t.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (TOk1P)
I'm looking for a smart woman in a real short skirt
Smart woman who knows how to flirt
Smart woman got a mind of her own
Smart woman that'll take me home, take me home
Posted by: J Buffet at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Abby Normal at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (O4xMo)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (3DW38)
Who the heck knows
https://youtu.be/zzKUzRJUzQ0
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (39g3+)
it, does she not? I can see him handing the reins over and planning to
retire after leaving the White House.
In my dreams he tabs Cruz for VP and steps aside to retire after 6 years to allow Cruz the full 10.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (Nj2wY)
His kids will run it. I heard him say that a few months ago.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby"
Did Jeb support Crist over Rubio? I know Scarborough did which is why he hates Rubio.
Posted by: Benji Carver at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (OD2ni)
I have said on many occasions that it is past time for Jeb Bush to drop out of the race. This idea that Rubio somehow betrayed him by running in the primary is wrong. The person who is responsible for Jeb Bush's poor performance in the polls is Jeb Bush.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (YjDyJ)
Ha!
Okay, so what's the catch?
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (FkBIv)
I don't doubt for a moment that the Bush family is considering that right now.
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The Bush family should have heeded my advice. Jeb has hurt George P's political career. Not killed it of course, but certainly not helped it.
Posted by: SH at December 16, 2015 04:59 PM (gmeXX)
stay with Trump Inc. and make metric fucktons more money there than 4-8
years of making 400k a year, dontcha think?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 04:51 PM (84ei
Who said he isn't? He's admitted that a big part of Trump Inc. is buying and selling politicians.
The question is who, as President, would funnel the most money to Trump
Inc.? It sure as hell isn't Trump (blind trust and all, and both
parties itching to throw him out at the slightest hint of corruption).
Given his campaign style, it isn't likely to be any Republican. That
leaves his BFF Clinton.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:59 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 16, 2015 04:50 PM (mf5HN)
Solid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:55 PM (uRmWf)
For four hours.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 04:59 PM (r1DzX)
Posted by: Moki at December 16, 2015 04:59 PM (7q2ch)
Karl Sternovich roughed him up a little bit to help him get his priorities straight.
Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2015 04:59 PM (BngQR)
//Evil Corky with a gun to his head
Ok Sven....I'm going to hell for laughing at that.
Your fault.
Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2015 04:59 PM (qUNWi)
I'm leaving just like Jeb!
Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2015 05:00 PM (DLIIY)
If you go, BE CAREFUL. Make sure you know where all the exits are and, if possible, go armed.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 04:56 PM (4ErVI)
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If that happens, we'll just have to call off the elections and declare Trump potus.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 16, 2015 05:00 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:00 PM (g8Hfr)
it, does she not? I can see him handing the reins over and planning to
retire after leaving the White House.
In my dreams he tabs Cruz for VP and steps aside to retire after 6 years to allow Cruz the full 10.
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (Nj2wY)
Keep dreaming.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:00 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 05:00 PM (3ZtZW)
Disney merchandising is enough to make Yogurt from Spaceballs blush. They've succeeded in making me not really even like Star Wars.
http://tinyurl.com/pa94xc9
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 05:01 PM (39g3+)
What's the tire pressure? (guess the ref)
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2015 05:01 PM (LAe3v)
More sense than you think. First, remember Trump only got in after
he consulted with noted Repub...er...DemocRAT Bill Clinton. Then
consider that his ego wouldn't stand 4 years of having Trump Inc. in a
blind trust (assuming he isn't impeached and convicted for enriching
Trump Inc. at the expense of the Treasury first).
It's all about enriching Trump Inc.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (cL79m)
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Uh, Trump Inc. is in fine hands with his children, all of whom are fine businessmen in their own right.
Really, its a credit to Trump they all turned out with their heads screwed on tight.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 16, 2015 05:01 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: RioBravo at December 16, 2015 05:01 PM (NUqwG)
The despicable Hillary would beat Trumo like a red headed clown. 20 points at least. The witch would even easily beat the scary Cruz.
Republicans better wake up and embrace the middle . Like it or not, that's where the country is.
Or be the perpetual outsiders, whining, and carping, making Sean and Rush richer, and marching about in tricorner hats.
Posted by: Bobby Ahr at December 16, 2015 05:01 PM (zmZ2x)
No, but my recollection is that his presidential primary campaign has recycled some of Crist's talking points against Rubio.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 05:02 PM (YjDyJ)
I'll wait until the DVD hits the $5 discount bin at Walmart.
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 05:02 PM (BPgj1)
Posted by: Skipper Dole at December 16, 2015 05:02 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:02 PM (uRmWf)
"embrace the middle"
Like the Scarlet SCOAMF and Bernie Stalin?
the GOP needs to offer alternatives not echoes.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (g8Hfr)
I almost had you, you lucky (string of expletives deleted).
Posted by: The Barrel at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Skipper Dole at December 16, 2015 05:02 PM (FkBIv)
Liz = Little Buddy?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (uRmWf)
passed already.
Didn't Trump put that to bed last night? It sure didn't sound like he was intending a third party run if he wasn't the nominee when CNN tried to play that game with him.
Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: donna at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Bobby Ahr
If Trumo is so easy to beat, why can't your establishment frauds do it?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (/FOB4)
Even funnier...
"shut up and do as you're told"
//Kasich 16
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (g8Hfr)
I shit you not I saw a bag of Star Wars fruit at the grocery store last night.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (YjDyJ)
Take him out with what? Jeb! has at his disposal right now, an arsenal that is the political equivalent knock-off brand Star Wars lite sabers (sold exclusively at Rite-Ade stores), and swimming pool noodles.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Bigby's Finger Foods at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Bobby Ahr at December 16, 2015 05:01 PM (zmZ2x)
Looks like Begonia's little sister just showed up.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (8ZskC)
I have zero expectations for it. The prequels were such pigshit.
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (Ypc8j)
You're right. Another terror attack like SB makes Trump look like a seer and hands him the nomination outright.
Another 9/11 (God forbid) , Muslim immigration IS stopped and Trump wins the general in a landslide.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (3DW38)
It's early yet the FSA is just getting outta bed yo...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (g8Hfr)
I'll wait until the DVD hits the $5 discount bin at Walmart.
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 05:02 PM (BPgj1)
I have the scale models so I'm going to just hum the theme and make "pew-pew" laser sounds as I run about the room in my jim-jams.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Fat Bastard at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (FkBIv)
Fuck them fast, fuck them hard, fuck them all.
Posted by: jwest at December 16, 2015 04:57 PM (Zs4uk)
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Frankly, I'm all for this, but there is so much criminal activity on the left we can do this by following the law too.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 16, 2015 05:05 PM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 05:05 PM (r1DzX)
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 16, 2015 05:05 PM (r1fLd)
I'll wait until the DVD hits the $5 discount bin at Walmart.
Sounds like a plan. If word of mouth is bad enough I won't even go that far.
Posted by: eleven at December 16, 2015 05:05 PM (qUNWi)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 05:05 PM (Xo1Rt)
I suspect Abrams may well run the risk of making the prequels look like Shakespeare by way of comparison.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:05 PM (g8Hfr)
I have zero expectations for it. The prequels were such pigshit.
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (Ypc8j)
Couldn't they get a better looking black guy? I mean, he ain't no Billy Dee Williams.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:05 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (g8Hfr)
I have zero expectations for it. The prequels were such pigshit.
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (Ypc8j)
In one of the trailers, JJ Abrams practically came out and said "these won't be pieces of shit like Lucas' prequels, I promise."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (B8JRQ)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (+hd5N)
I'll wait until the DVD hits the $5 discount bin at Walmart.
Sounds like a plan. If word of mouth is bad enough I won't even go that far.
Netflix
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (r1DzX)
Just wait until the SUPER SPECIAL EDITION where Disney CGs SCOAMF on the guy...
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (g8Hfr)
Embrace my middle!
Posted by: Fat Bastard at December 16, 2015 05:04 PM (FkBIv)
**singing old charity theme song**
"Hands Across Chris Christie's thighs . . ."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:07 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Stay out da bushes at December 16, 2015 05:07 PM (yioUz)
Posted by: Skipper Dole at December 16, 2015 05:02 PM (FkBIv)
Liz = Little Buddy?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:03 PM (uRmWf)
In a very special crossover episode with Leave it to Beaver, the skipper is hard on the Beaver.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 05:07 PM (TOk1P)
I hope he's sold a lot of books and made a lot of money because that was the only reason he was wasting everyone's time with his make-believe campaign.
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 05:07 PM (Ypc8j)
Yep that was the problem in 2012. The nomination of the hardline right wing cook Mitt Romney running against the middle of the road centrist Obama.
Posted by: buzzion at December 16, 2015 05:07 PM (z/Ubi)
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 05:07 PM (BPgj1)
3h ago Process 1: If someone wanted to probe a senator of leaking potentially classified info, complaint would be made to Ethics Cmte
3h ago Process 2: There would only be a probe of a senator about a possible leak if the Ethics Cmte then decided to consider the case.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 16, 2015 05:07 PM (YjDyJ)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (cL79m)
Rudy was ahead by double digits less than 2 months before the first primary in pretty much every national and early primary state poll?
I'm not saying it can't happen, but the closer we get to early February and Iowa caucus and NH primary, the less likely it is that Trump loses. In early states at least.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (AkOaV)
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Nope Rudy started losing to Huck exactly around this week in 2007, and where he was still leading it wasn't by double digits. Fred Thompson also beat him for a bit during the Thompson surge.
(wiki has the pooling) - 'Nationwide opinion polling for the Republican Party 2008 presidential primaries'
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (oDCMR)
That cover is just awful. Just. Awful.
Posted by: AmishDude at December 16, 2015 04:45 PM (JIElb)
Speak for yourself, Cake fucking rocks.
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (UnJ7w)
And yet the reviews I've seen say that this is essentially a mash-up of the first two movies; nothing new, just amped up storytelling of the same old stuff.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (NOIQH)
Fixed, Jane.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (DLIIY)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (/FOB4)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (ppaKI)
Let's see, we put a devious and clever businessman with few scuples in charge of the regulatory machine able to choose winners and losers and write regulation however he chooses.
Naaah, no way he could enrich himself that way!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (39g3+)
Guns and ammo.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (r1DzX)
Nice jump from the low board, including gratuitous insult and no comedy. You'll go far here.
Posted by: DaveA at December 16, 2015 05:09 PM (DL2i+)
Or be the perpetual outsiders, whining, and carping, making Sean and Rush richer, and marching about in tricorner hats.
Posted by: Bobby Ahr
Serious question for the troll: The country hasn't been this polarized since the Civil war. Occupying the middle buys you what, exactly? The voters are all on the poles.
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2015 05:09 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2015 05:09 PM (xWW96)
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"Embrace" the middle? Shit, the GOP has built itself a lovely gated community right there in "the middle", and conservatives need not apply. That's the problem. That's what has to be solved. Not caving in to the establishment, but taking our country back.
Posted by: antisocialist at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (cDs+4)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:44 PM (cL79m)
Rudy was ahead by double digits less than 2 months before the first primary in pretty much every national and early primary state poll?
I'm not saying it can't happen, but the closer we get to early February and Iowa caucus and NH primary, the less likely it is that Trump loses. In early states at least.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 16, 2015 04:47 PM (AkOaV)
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Nope Rudy started losing to Huck exactly around this week in 2007, and where he was still leading it wasn't by double digits. Fred Thompson also beat him for a bit during the Thompson surge.
(wiki has the pooling) - 'Nationwide opinion polling for the Republican Party 2008 presidential primaries'
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The last two candidates that lead the polls at this point where President Reagan and President HW Bush. History suggests President Trump.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (oDCMR)
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I'll wait until the DVD hits the $5 discount bin at Walmart.
Sounds like a plan. If word of mouth is bad enough I won't even go that far.
Netflix
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 05:06 PM (r1DzX)
Nah, I'm just gonna wait for the pron version: Star Whores: The Forced Anal Achin'.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (TOk1P)
Yes he did. I was explaining why. Trump now knows that the Establishment now realizes that they must not screw Trump with procedural gimmicks at the Convention.
Hence his equanimity last night.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (r1fLd)
"Republicans better wake up and embrace the middle"
Yeah, that worked so well with Dole, McCain, and Romney.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (/FOB4)
Posted by: Dead Possum at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (ppaKI)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (ppaKI)
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Another good reason. I'm tired of Republicans winning, implementing Democrat policies and then when the SHTF get the blame for the failed Republican policies.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (LXJ1e)
Why by golly is that not PRECISELY what a lot of us said would happen after we got to see Abrams basically steal wholesale Star Trek II and just AMPO IT UP TO ELEVENTY!?!
This will FEEL like the original trilogy more than Lucas' shite BUT in the end you'll feel like it is a Brady reunion film about 4 days after seeing it...
wow look the characters I love with little clones.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (g8Hfr)
What a idiotic conversation and a drivel about "taking out the man". Its really "Ill show you democrat LITE RINO establishment figures by voting for a very conservative candida.....wait a former democrat that donated with Kamala Harris and D candidates throughout his life".
Posted by: Nick at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (DKHw0)
Okay:
This one will turn it around for Jeb! New theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwoavXnHxYM
"P.P.I.T.B." 1978
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:11 PM (uRmWf)
You got us....
quick someone dust off *untsman....
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:11 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 05:11 PM (4ErVI)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2015 05:11 PM (DLIIY)
Cake is definitely an acquired taste, but I like them. They are very weird and unique, not boring old pop again.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 05:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: donna at December 16, 2015 04:48 PM (/dSsq)
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Nope, he said he's been wrong wrong wrong about trump every step of the way in predicting what would happen and how people would react to him , that people are not following the usual script\pattern, that it's something he's never seen before. That said he always find some way to say something has 'never been seen before'.
PS - I hate Luntz and his usually pretty stupid groups but it does sort of give you peek into what are usually pretty manipulable LIV minds.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:12 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Moron Tab n Apple Choir at December 16, 2015 05:12 PM (ZWRoJ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:12 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Dead Possum at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (ppaKI)
Me neither!
Posted by: Dead Skunk at December 16, 2015 05:12 PM (ftVQq)
(wiki has the pooling) - 'Nationwide opinion polling for the Republican Party 2008 presidential primaries'
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (MbrzC)
The 2008 voting started about 4 weeks ahead of the point it will this time around, and was far more front-loaded. McCain basically had the majority of delegates by the time Wisconsin voted in mid-February (the only time the primary wasn't in early-April).
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (Xodlv)
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (Ypc8j)
Posted by: the hungry, hungry barrel at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 16, 2015 05:08 PM (r1DzX)
And 12000 pounds of Studebaker parts. Because they ain't making them anymore, you know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (7MWCL)
I won't be soothed...
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (NOIQH)
"He's not Khan! This isn't just a remake of the Wrath of Khan, honest!"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 05:14 PM (39g3+)
Damn you for putting the closing tags in your nick. How's a barrel supposed to be fed with that dirty trick?
Posted by: The Barrel at December 16, 2015 05:14 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: Weasel at December 16, 2015 05:14 PM (e3bId)
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 05:14 PM (13W9U)
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 05:14 PM (BPgj1)
Everyone else: Boo fricken hoo! Are you off your meds?
Posted by: rebel flounder at December 16, 2015 05:14 PM (3dOE/)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 16, 2015 05:15 PM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (g8Hfr)
But that new R2D2 thingy is soooooooo cuuuuute!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 05:15 PM (TOk1P)
Did you know that the brits call blow jobs suck jobs?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang
Well? Which is more accurate?
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2015 05:15 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2015 05:15 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 16, 2015 05:16 PM (HMt16)
A combination of both is always appreciated.
Don't be so rigid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 16, 2015 05:16 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (7MWCL)
Now that's thinking through the real implications of the Apocalypse!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 05:16 PM (ftVQq)
Yeah, I really hate what he did to the Kirk and Spock characters. Spock is not a badass.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 05:17 PM (NOIQH)
It's like Artoo had a one night stand with a Krayt Dragon testicle...
"This is Artoo as I WANTED HIM TO BE!"
//Jorge Lucas talking through JJ Abrams using the Farce
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:17 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2015 05:17 PM (LAe3v)
They choke themselves just enough to get brain damage but not enough to die. Although judging by the the creeps in the GOPe, it might be auto-erotic asphyxiation.
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 05:17 PM (Ypc8j)
Posted by: pep at December 16, 2015 05:15 PM (LAe3v)
Depends on whether or not they swallow!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 05:17 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: A very tired Elizabeth Dole at December 16, 2015 05:18 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 05:14 PM (13W9U)
I'm not buying it. I guess we're not going to get a blonde bimbo eruption, but I'm still expecting him to have a Saturday morning "Hey, I finished fourth!" campaign suspension... any week now.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 05:18 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at December 16, 2015 05:18 PM (TPjwz)
Posted by: Dead Possum at December 16, 2015 05:10 PM (ppaKI)
Hey, it got you a yellow stripe painted on your carcass. So there's that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2015 05:18 PM (7MWCL)
Eh Spork was a closeted badass he was supposed to go all nerd rage about once a season...not once every quarter hour of screen time...
I forced myself to like Star Trek the Star Trek...
Star Trek Out of Derpness ate away at me enough I'm glad he is not involved in Star Trek the Star Trek III-Fast and Furiosa-er
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:19 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2015 05:19 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at December 16, 2015 05:19 PM (TPjwz)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 16, 2015 05:20 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Dead skunk at December 16, 2015 05:20 PM (LAe3v)
"oh....ah....ohhh I stiww want MAH ONYUN RANGS!"
//Evil Corky hanging like a Carradine
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:20 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 16, 2015 05:21 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: Jeb Bush at December 16, 2015 05:21 PM (Klk+s)
Posted by: Loudon Wainwright III at December 16, 2015 05:21 PM (ftVQq)
Another Muslim soldier turns to the terrs (IS/ISIS/ISIL in this case)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hmr5avl
Posted by: RioBravo at December 16, 2015 05:22 PM (NUqwG)
Inc.? It sure as hell isn't Trump (blind trust and all, and both
parties itching to throw him out at the slightest hint of corruption).
Given his campaign style, it isn't likely to be any Republican. That
leaves his BFF Clinton.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 04:59 PM (cL79m)
******
Then al he hadda do was stay in the Trump Towers and make enough of a fuckton of money that he could funnel several million to her. Maybe make a few appearances on her behalf.
Why go to all this trouble?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 05:22 PM (84ei8)
Posted by: Loudon Wainwright III at December 16, 2015 05:23 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2015 05:24 PM (xWW96)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hmr5avl
Posted by: RioBravo at December 16, 2015 05:22 PM (NUqwG)
It's almost like that first "I" has some significance to these people, even though that's not who they are!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 05:25 PM (ftVQq)
Last night was big. No two ways about it.
So, today when I went over the list of everyone who stepped up before and even after the debate, and I still didn't see your name, I was surprised.
I need you with me now. The next 72 hours are critical. The pundits and press will ask, "Did Jeb capitalize on his great performance? Did this motivate his team?" We need you to step up and help us raise $100,000 by Friday at midnight so the answer will be yes.
[Great Performance? who were you supposed to be, Pagliacci or Papageno?]
Posted by: Satan back on the job at December 16, 2015 05:25 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2015 05:25 PM (BngQR)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/hmr5avl
Posted by: RioBravo
And you have to go to a foreign source to read about it. US media must be boycotting the story to avoid the backlash.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 16, 2015 05:26 PM (/FOB4)
make enough of a fuckton of money that he could funnel several million
to her. Maybe make a few appearances on her behalf.
Why go to all this trouble?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 05:22 PM (84ei
The same reason they faked the moon landings. Plastics.
The logic is simple. Come on!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 05:26 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 05:27 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2015 05:27 PM (k0xxN)
Posted by: Richard Gere at December 16, 2015 05:27 PM (0x/TW)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2015 05:27 PM (DLIIY)
Why go to all this trouble?
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 05:22 PM (84ei
Because without his presence in the race, there was a very good chance that whoever the Republican nominee would have been would have held enough of the Grand Old Coalition together to knock off Clinton in a 2-way race.
Now you have complete disunity between the various factions that have called the GOP home, which serves Clinton well in a year where she shouldn't have a chance in Hell.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:28 PM (cL79m)
Trump is stealing our precious bodily fluids!!!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 05:28 PM (39g3+)
The image I saw was terrible. Looked cheap and lame.
The comments I saw about it on the movie thread on Reddit were damn near 100% negative.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 16, 2015 05:28 PM (4ErVI)
He doesnt' toe the conservative party line by any means. Look at his stance on Iraq, Kelo, etc. He's been thrashed by the Levin's, Rush's, Aces' et al.
Despite that though, the man is a unabashed patriot. He's a political anachronism that is a breath of fresh air.
Posted by: other joe_mama at December 16, 2015 05:28 PM (13W9U)
That's exactly what ISIL wants.
No wait.
Let me be clear . . . .
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 16, 2015 05:28 PM (3dOE/)
Posted by: DRayRaven at December 16, 2015 05:29 PM (Qc2Pk)
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2015 05:27 PM (k0xxN)
*****
Link proving that assertion please.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 05:29 PM (84ei8)
In case anyone was not aware of it, anything purported to be "trending," "hot" or what ever is, what's the word? Oh yeah, BULLSHIT.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:29 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 16, 2015 05:30 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 05:30 PM (uRmWf)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 16, 2015 04:53 PM (DUoqb)
----
Did dipstick just imply he was like doubling down on strikes or something?
Maybe someone doesn't want any possible air-air capable assets near Russian air-air assets? Hmm.
Maybe Kerry just flexibly negotiated them away?
Carrier moving into theater? Nah, not Obama's style, possible though I suppose.
Others taking over more of the bombing? Not likely if past is any prologue, but possible.
We've bombed pretty much every thing we're gonna bomb ourselves with f-15's and will leave air-air cover for the a-10's to others? Given the WH seems to be selecting the specific targets... maybe.
Maybe they were long term meant to end up in Iraq but Iraq has now rejected further assistance, maybe Turkey wanted them out?
Maybe they were seen as offensive to Iran and Obama removed them at their request? Hey this is Obama... don't rule out anything.
I got some other ideas but yeah pretty curious.
I'd think you'd want those assets positioned there right now even if you weren't using them much, unless you didn't want to be able to respond to something you knew might be coming.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:31 PM (MbrzC)
Oh come on, social media wouldn't try to shape public opinion to their benefit!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 05:31 PM (ftVQq)
So the crucial item on the ticket is who will be Vice President?
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 05:31 PM (BPgj1)
I saw that they went to a children's hospital dressed up to cheer up the kids and I was thinking "Bitches-- visiting sick children to promote a movie that isn't even out is not appropriate." I feel same way about the D-list celebrities who do the USO tours. It's like "Gee... thanks Kathy Griffith."
Posted by: Naes at December 16, 2015 05:31 PM (Ypc8j)
Posted by: steveegg
Yeah, because the country was just itching to elect another President Bush until Trump showed up.
Your shinebox, go get it.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at December 16, 2015 05:31 PM (/FOB4)
very good chance that whoever the Republican nominee would have been
would have held enough of the Grand Old Coalition together to knock off
Clinton in a 2-way race.
Now you have complete disunity between the various factions that
have called the GOP home, which serves Clinton well in a year where she
shouldn't have a chance in Hell.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:28 PM (cL79m)
I know it's hard to accept, but the reason there is disunity in your Party is because your Party is not united.
You're welcome to continue to seek silly conspiracy theories though, if it eases your mind.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2015 05:32 PM (TOk1P)
In what bizarro world was that going to happen?
Did you not pay attention to what was going on before Trump entered the race?
Jeb and Rubio were already being dissed and dismissed by the base. Carson was an enigma, Christie ruined his chances in 2012 and Kasich wasn't anywhere on the map as they ginned him up at the last minute for the first debate.
Rand Paul was a known quantity but no one was really rallying around him. Ditto Huckabee and Santorum. Lindsey's always been just a spoiler to take SC away from whoever.
So what grand coalition did Trump ruin?
Please spell it out so I can laugh uproariously.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 16, 2015 05:32 PM (Xo1Rt)
The Chamber and others likely feel the same way. Besides, Trump claimed to be self-funding, although he's met with super-PACs backing him.
If you need extra, the merch sales on brown shirts and jack boots should be brisk.
Posted by: Adjoran at December 16, 2015 05:32 PM (QIQ6j)
The NYC meeting last July at Trump Tower looms larger every day.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 16, 2015 04:58 PM (uRmWf)
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Indeed.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:34 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 16, 2015 05:34 PM (BPgj1)
have called the GOP home, which serves Clinton well in a year where she
shouldn't have a chance in Hell.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:28 PM (cL79m)
*****
Alex Jones is holding for you on line 1. He is ON this.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 05:34 PM (84ei8)
For those of you who didn't waste your youth reading Mad Magazine, Clinton is the woman in gray.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:35 PM (cL79m)
Trump is a prodigy at working media in a political context. If he is the nominee ( and I'd put high odds on it), I expect that he'll bring up other issues including a Republican Populist spin on Income Inequality that puts American citizens first.
We all saw Trump's epic smack down of Jeb last night. He's going to do the same to Hillary so bad and so hard that even I will have to look away.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 16, 2015 05:35 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 05:34 PM (84ei
Keep him on hold. Better yet, disconnect the line.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:36 PM (cL79m)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2015 05:37 PM (No/ki)
Posted by: navybrat at December 16, 2015 05:39 PM (Xodlv)
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:13 PM (cL79m)
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Sounds about right, I was just spot checking the past polling cause recall the Rudy slide beginning in earnest right around now after that false NYtimes story that they end up basically retracting 2 weeks later on page 17 after the damage was done.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:41 PM (MbrzC)
See, you guys. THAT's how smart diplomacy works!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 05:41 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 16, 2015 05:27 PM (39g3+)
I'm going to spare ya'll the image I found when I googled that.
Girl power feminism means showing off ugly chicks, I guess.
Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 16, 2015 05:42 PM (0NdlF)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:41 PM (MbrzC)
Which translates into early-January this time around.
The parallels aren't quite complete, because Giuliani's strength wasn't in either Iowa or New Hampshire, while Trump's strength had been in IA and still is in NH.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:44 PM (cL79m)
Metal Worker debunks "jet fuel can't melt steel"
DAMN YES YES!
I made the point way back when with the Luap Nor cultists here....
pressure, heat, and time can work metal...
something cave men figured out birthing the copper age...
yes cavemen were SMARTER than the conspiracy nuts.
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 05:44 PM (g8Hfr)
You don't have to fall in love. You just have to fall in line.
Suck it, GOPe.
Posted by: teransolo at December 16, 2015 05:45 PM (In2E6)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 16, 2015 05:46 PM (3myMJ)
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This. The schism... no scratch that, flat out war was already in progress well before Trump announcing into an already crowded field. What he saw was finally the right timing and mood for his run, it not like the man had not considered POTUS runs previously. They guy is far from conservative but I don't buy the super conspiracy to elect Hillary.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:47 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: I'd rather be surfin at December 16, 2015 05:49 PM (pgrMW)
Which translates into early-January this time around.
The parallels aren't quite complete, because Giuliani's strength wasn't in either Iowa or New Hampshire, while Trump's strength had been in IA and still is in NH.
Posted by: steveegg at December 16, 2015 05:44 PM (cL79m)
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We don't disagree on this. (I had forgot things were pushed up into january that year)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:52 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 16, 2015 05:53 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: despair at December 16, 2015 05:53 PM (VrdxH)
And I now think of his focus group yelling at Kasich, just like I do when he's on tv.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 16, 2015 05:53 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: Lester at December 16, 2015 05:54 PM (2UPXV)
*****
*Golf clap*
A most astute analogy.
Posted by: ManWithNoParty at December 16, 2015 05:56 PM (84ei8)
His pro eminent domain
Washington examiner-11/19/15 Trump in favor of wind turbine subsidies
I'm at a loss with only a kindle
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2015 05:59 PM (k0xxN)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 16, 2015 05:53 PM (nFdGS)
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Should be doing that anyway.
.
" He talks about how pissed off voters are."
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Yeah though he says that to some degree every cycle but this time he's no... no..no.. listen to me GOPe... they're like really really pissed this time, like they're not kidding... like they don't care, they're ready to cut a bitch level serious, maybe you should actually listen to them this time, my smooth language talk advice isn't gonna work this time.
It's sort of amusing which is why I mentioned it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 16, 2015 05:59 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 16, 2015 06:00 PM (Lqy/e)
Watch her daily schedule and how late she is by the end of the day. She's already wearing down and the intense campaigning hasn't started yet.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 16, 2015 06:03 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2015 06:04 PM (k0xxN)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 16, 2015 06:00 PM (Lqy/e)
I read that as "It wouldn't take much of a stumble for her to fall." which still works.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 06:04 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Mob at December 16, 2015 06:14 PM (SJ0Z6)
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at December 16, 2015 06:18 PM (gi1qu)
Looks like this was a fun "biker stomp the GOPe" thread.
Pity I missed it. Well, there will be others.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 16, 2015 06:19 PM (kdS6q)
Or am I being naive?
You mean like ORCA?
Posted by: parteagirl at December 16, 2015 06:23 PM (K0jlM)
That massive ground game and oppo research against the media and Donks....
(that somehow ONLY gets used against conservatives)
Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at December 16, 2015 06:24 PM (g8Hfr)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 16, 2015 04:24 PM (NOIQH)
Did that little brat girl happen to live in Rancho Cordova? Because you really are describing me in my misspent childhood.
Posted by: kathysaysso at December 16, 2015 06:25 PM (fMQoG)
Of course the base has some hostility to the current regime for good reason. But this is the regime's effort to insert a "poison pill".
"Sure, you can vote in Trump, but that will destroy the party and we will vote Hillary, or run a third party Romney."
Companies that were cash/asset rich would sometimes do this to keep from being bought out and sold piecemeal. Google it for details, which I forget.
Posted by: Illiniwek at December 16, 2015 06:31 PM (26Yu7)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at December 16, 2015 06:35 PM (sqs5K)
Posted by: Fugazi at December 16, 2015 06:40 PM (qxL5y)
At the GOP convention, during his acceptance speech, Trump teases with big announcement about the debates.
First Debate: Trump offers Hillary atleast $1 billion to withdraw from the race. Her answer is due at the second debate. Announces that the amount will be crowd funded before the next debate and he will match the crowdfunding upto $1B. He also tells her he has a little something to sweeten the pot on top of that.
Second debate: Trump publicly negotiates with Hillary on the amount she wants to withdraw. After they settle on a price. Trump offers to sell her a pardon for $250M. Negotiations will proceed at the next debate.
Third Debate: Trump and Hillary negotiate the terms and amount of the pardon. Trump then rocks the crowd by having Bill Clinton join her on stage. Crowd goes wild. Trump then has Monica Lewinsky join him on the stage (pandemonium erupts) and Trump negotiates a pardon for Bill on the spot.
Posted by: David Ferguson at December 16, 2015 07:04 PM (ee11p)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 16, 2015 07:15 PM (ftVQq)
I'm sure many democrat leaning people feel the same way. Especially the way the establishment has treated them, coronating (is that a word?) Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Stephanie at December 16, 2015 07:34 PM (eLvFT)
Posted by: Papa Bush at December 16, 2015 08:24 PM (eZG4P)
Ain't gonna happen with the internet anymore.
Posted by: pointsnfigures at December 16, 2015 10:26 PM (hSpC/)
You have said many times millions of conservatives did not support McCain or Romney. I am not sure I agree. In any event I am just returning the favor by not supporting Trump or Cruz. You have no right to complain.
Posted by: Arkansas Yankee at December 17, 2015 12:36 AM (Je4OY)
As for Trump, the Establishment is actually sane and realizes having that buffoon holding the standard of the party is a recipe for disaster not only in this election, but for elections to come. He's just the latest uninformed candidate who is illiterate when it comes to the issues and who can never win. In short, Trump is Christine O'Donnell.
Posted by: JoeC at December 17, 2015 12:48 AM (h78u+)
He has failed the most basic test, sleepy head has falling far beyond repair. His lack of an endorsement for trump only will reinforce the fact the RNC is everything already know. USELESS, SELF SERVING excuses for public servants.
The lines are drawn clearly now after this last debate, There will be no perfect candidate, all will makes mistakes at some point. But at this point the anger on the right and left has shifted to a boiling point. The palpable flavor for an outsider is crossing both boundaries of the political isles, this point is undeniable.
let those that hear understand the road ahead of us a over new year is long hard narrow and will bring my surprises. No one in the beltway will have the will or power to change whats ahead of us, only an outsider willing to speak the unspeakable. One that is unrehearsed , one that will attach back when force to defend that which he holds dear.
If you have not noticed the system is broken, the world burns, Europe is falling, a quiet invasion is at our southern border.
The outsider brings those that are like minded along with him.
If there is one thing you can count on, things will always change when you least expect it. One this day we celebrate the demoralization of the left.
For we know she that wears the jump suit, will be hit hard with scandals and her husband will remind us all left and right that Bill cant and wont make it to the House on the hill.
Please give me a unrehearsed speech at the White House press briefing.
Posted by: Frodus at December 17, 2015 01:21 AM (DmGFd)
Posted by: Case, Mors Semper Tyrannis at December 17, 2015 03:10 AM (I0sxh)
Posted by: 7cedars at December 19, 2015 09:17 PM (vb6dQ)
Posted by: cleo48 at December 19, 2015 10:44 PM (LFo43)
The one scenario where I can see the establishment wing going rogue would be if something happens to Clinton (like an indictment) and the general election ends up being between Sanders and Trump. In that case, I really could imagine the Republican establishment actually setting up a new party and running a safe, center-right candidate. The obvious choices would be Romney or Paul Ryan. But any "safe pair of hands" would do.
Posted by: A. Non at December 19, 2015 10:46 PM (OQeIN)
Posted by: R_henry at December 19, 2015 11:50 PM (lYa5s)
Posted by: Squirefld at December 20, 2015 12:34 AM (M93QI)
Jeb was never gonna try.
Posted by: mark l at December 20, 2015 03:42 AM (YQWyY)
Trump is a jerk, an egomaniac and a flake.
And I may end up pulling the lever to vote for him because he is the lesser of two weevils.
Posted by: Ziv at December 20, 2015 09:24 AM (DW7ZZ)
Love it so!
Please, please, please - go with this idea.
You morons are gonna destroy the GOP as a national party, unable to win the Presidency for as far as we can imagine.
LOVE YOU NUTTERS!
RWNJs are all i want for Xmas!
Btw, i think its time that you mofos seriously begin to consider emigration. At this point, it really sounds like your best option.
ADELANTE CON CLINTONS Y CASTRO!
Posted by: Your enemy at December 20, 2015 09:40 AM (t/Kih)
In the end though, the establishment schmucks will get in line. For all their bluster they're still just a bunch of weenies.
Hopefully an outsider wins the nomination and presidency and then begin rebuilding the GOP by purging it of the asshats who have run the party into the ground.
Posted by: Flapjackson at December 20, 2015 10:05 AM (FTiHX)
Posted by: Jerry at December 20, 2015 01:57 PM (42Ylh)
This isn't an establishment-vs-grassroots issue - Ted Cruz being nominated might piss off the establishment, but would not destroy the party. Jeb Bush being nominated (fortunately, unlikely) would piss off the grass roots but not destroy the party.
It's not even an 'outsider vs career politician' issue. Either Carly Finorina or Ben Carson do not have the destructive impact of a Trump nomination.
The ISSUE is that Trump is NEITHER a Conservative, NOR a Republican.
He does not espouse even ONE principled conservative position.
He's exactly the sort of candidate that both the establishment AND the grass-roots SHOULD be uniting against...
If Mr Trump gets nominated, it will prove to everyone that the GOP has no ideology beyond anger - that we are willing to flush all those carefully crafted & defended ideological positions (You know, stuff like support for free markets.... Lower taxes... Opposition to single-payer health care...) just for the chance to nominate a guy who insults people, BECAUSE he insults people & doesn't care.
And that will sink us.
Posted by: Dave Acklam at December 20, 2015 02:05 PM (aNid+)
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