Andy McCarthy: The Government Has Been Systematically and Completely Forbidding Intelligence Agents to Look Into Islamic Sentiments Since Before 9/11, And It's Only Gotten Worse Under Obama

There are two important parts of this. The first important part is McCarthy's contradictions of Obama's spin on this man-made disaster. Obama has, once again, caused people to suffer for his ideology, and he has returned to his old habits of lying and blame-shifting.

It is not enough to say that these signs of the Islamist mindset were missed by security and intelligence agencies. Our government chose to miss them.
As a matter of policy, the Department of Homeland Security -- the bureaucratic behemoth created after 9/11 to enhance protection of our country - -avoids looking at, much less scrutinizing, the publicly available social-media commentary of aliens who seek visas to enter the United States, including from Islamic countries that are jihadist strongholds. You read that correctly.
Now that the story of shocking recklessness is out, the administration is scrambling for cover. The policy, officials stammer, was not really written down and was, in any event more like a loose guideline than a real rule. That is simply false.
The guidance was mandatory, and it even ignited a furious intramural clash at DHS.
In the end, Secretary Jeh Johnson personally refused to countermand the guidance, siding with DHS's Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties (the radicalism of which is on a par with the Justice Department’s infamous Civil Rights Division) over Homeland Security agents who were worried about, you know, security. Press reports suggest that the guidance was “secret”: adopted out of concerns about antagonizing civil-rights activists in the wake of the hysteria over surveillance provoked by Edward Snowden. Alternatively, the Obama administration floats the suggestion that scrutinizing the social-media commentary of visa applicants would be (a) too difficult because people like Malik use pseudonyms and privacy protocols, and (b) too time-consuming because there are millions of applications. Visa applicants are aliens. They have no right to enter the U.S. and no civil rights under the U.S. Constitution. Each of these rationalizations is bogus.

I've quoted a lot, so I will not quote from the next important part.

However, I'll tell you about it.

The Obama Administration has imposed an intelligence doctrine called "Combating Violent Extremism" (CVE). Among the most important parts of this doctrine is the insistence, essentially, that terrorists have a first amendment right to terrorism.

Yes, that's basically what it boils down to. The CVE insists that no intelligence analyst ever "conflate" belief in certain ideas with any kind of a support for terrorism.

The rationale is this: You cannot punish beliefs and statements. You can only punish actions.

Well, that's true (mostly -- if your statement is direct and unambiguous enough, an exhortation to break the law can be criminal).

But it's also irrelevant. Because the CVE directive doesn't just tell agents they cannot prosecute statements or beliefs; it actually bars intelligence agents from asking about statements or beliefs, or from using statements and beliefs in any part of an investigation.

Not just a ban on prosecution for belief in fundamentalist, jihadi Salafist ideology -- which I suppose most would agree with (begrudgingly). But a ban of any analyst even starting an investigation of someone based on such a belief.

Consider the Lincoln Assassination, and assume, hypothetically, the identity of the assassin was not immediately known. Imagine Booth wore a mask, or retreated back into the corridor connecting to the balcony without being spotted, after killing Lincoln.

Now, Booth was a fairly well known Southern partisan who despised the "Northern War of Aggression."

The Obama Doctrine states that not only could Booth not be prosecuted for his secessionist sympathies -- fair enough on that -- but that his known, public support of the Southern cause could not even be inquired into by investigators attempting to figure out who killed Lincoln.

Well, gee fellas, if someone kills the man leading the Union Army during the Civil War, I think it would be a useful investigative aid to know who in Washington DC that week had strong southern sympathies -- don't you?

And while Booth's public support for the South could not itself land him in prison -- I think that support could justify asking him where he was on the night of the premier of Our American Cousin, n'est-ce pas?

Of course, Obama's policy would not apply to Booth, as it does not apply to Christians. The media and the government wasted no time inquiring into Lewis Dean's ideology.

This policy exist for the benefit of one group and one group only -- Muslims and the Islamists that swim among them.

Any sort of right-tilting ideological statements can be used in an investigation; just not any statements regarding an adherence to hardline jihadist Islam.

And who advised the Obama Administration that this was what was necessary to not appear to be "at war with all Muslims"?

Well I know the answer so I won't be coy: Among the groups advising the Obama Administration, and in the forefront of pushing this idea that Islam shall never be asked about in an investigation, is the Muslim Brotherhood, the terrorist organization Obama connived to hand the country of Egypt over to as part of his would-be alliance wit them.

So, going back to our 1865 analogy: This would be like asking Jefferson Davis what questions would be appropriate to discover Lincoln's Assassin.

Steve Coughlin has a new book out on this -- it is not just scandalous but impeachable, the degree to which the Obama Administration has taken the advice of terrorists and terrorist sympathizers as to how best to investigate terrorists and terrorists sympathizers, without making terrorists and terrorist sympathizers mad.

Like I said, the article is required reading.

Posted by: Ace at 03:08 PM

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1 We are in the Best of hands...The best

Posted by: RJD at December 15, 2015 03:11 PM (2cfUo)

2 and Firsteenth

Posted by: RJD at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (2cfUo)

3 It's John Wilkes Booth, no "e" in the surname.

Posted by: Joshua at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (oCZ4e)

4
They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (8XRCm)

5 Won't none of that CVE bs matter once we start playing cowboys and muzzies.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:13 PM (mZLmb)

6 Disgusting

Posted by: eman at December 15, 2015 03:13 PM (mR7Es)

7 You too shall be swept into my superdense maw.

Posted by: Memory Hole at December 15, 2015 03:14 PM (k8tEg)

8 Corgis called

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:14 PM (mZLmb)

9 They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?
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Without a doubt. And they already have.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 15, 2015 03:14 PM (9iR5/)

10 We are being ruled by unserious people who are recklessly indifferent to whether Americans live or die.

And that's the most generous interpretation.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 15, 2015 03:15 PM (mf5HN)

11 Silver lining. I guess they won't be investigating Christians simply for beliefs they might hold.

Oh who am I kidding.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 15, 2015 03:15 PM (dFi94)

12 Impeachable? Hahahaha.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at December 15, 2015 03:15 PM (LYCUN)

13 4
They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (8XRCm)

Probably. But it's not like we're one of the elites or anything.

(Also, I'd be interested to hear one of the lawyer morons weigh in on this.)

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 15, 2015 03:15 PM (RD7QR)

14 They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (8XRCm)

At this point that is probably the best scenario. The worst is there are mass conversions to Islam including among the elites, and we lose the country.

Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (KmBgd)

15 It's almost as if he is on the other side.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (zllbf)

16 Since this is required reading, will it be covered on the Ace book club?

Posted by: Draki at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (7RmW3)

17 Aiding and abetting. I think there's a penalty for that.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (dFi94)

18 SCOAMT

Posted by: OK, Thanks, Bye at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (ucB75)

19 Steve Coughlin has a new book out on this -- it is not just scandalous but impeachable

"impeachable"?

Treason is a capital offense for *everyone* that went along with it. Every office. Every party. Every bureaucrat. EVERYONE.

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 03:17 PM (ZbV+0)

20 it is not just scandalous but impeachable, the degree to which the Obama
Administration has taken the advice of terrorists and terrorist
sympathizers as to how best to investigate terrorists and terrorists
sympathizers, without making terrorists and terrorist sympathizers mad.

Neh neh impeachment is off the table.

Posted by: The perenial party of stupid at December 15, 2015 03:18 PM (t2KH5)

21 Fredo loves him some muslim brotherhood and wishes to take down America. And this is news to whom?

Great article Ace, but you are preaching to the Choir...not that I don't like preaching to the choir..just saying

And of course this raises my BP to unhealthy levels

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:18 PM (gf8BH)

22 Aiding and abetting. I think there's a penalty for that.

Posted by: grammie winger Isaiah 9:6 at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM

There used to be.

The fact that Choom Boy is wandering around free proves it is no longer enforced.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 15, 2015 03:18 PM (ykopX)

23 And who was running Obama's foreign policy for the first four years of his administration?

Alright - which candidate, other than Trump, is an unapologetic American nationalist? Because that is what we are going to need and soon.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Happy Hysteria-days from teh Outrage Outlet! at December 15, 2015 03:18 PM (hLRSq)

24 Who and why are these fucks obeying an unlawful order? They work for WE THE PEOPLE. NOT obama. Not a one of them has the balls to tell him what he is doing it unconstitutional and dangerous and walk out and go to the press ?
seems to me they are (if it ever goes major south) going to try the Nuremberg defense, that didn't work out so well the first time!

Posted by: cold57 at December 15, 2015 03:19 PM (DYqn8)

25 Required reading?

a) is this the book thread?
2) you're not the boss of me!

Posted by: Weasel at December 15, 2015 03:19 PM (6xtq3)

26 dis-crim-i-nate: (v.)

1. to recognize a distinction, differentiate

2. make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people

So, the smartest man in the world is not smart enough to discriminate between these two different meanings of the word 'discriminate'.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2015 03:19 PM (NeFrd)

27 So in other words Trump is right, perhaps even underselling the case that ALL immigration must CEASE until we've got appropriate guidelines, protocols, and research tools in place to validate these people?

Not that I like Trump all that much, his remarks on eminent domain and some other personal-liberties issues quite quickly pushed him to the bottom of my list of acceptables (though still undoubtedly preferable to any current Democrat candidate), but this is one matter on which he's right and just about everyone else is wrong.

Posted by: JEM at December 15, 2015 03:19 PM (o+SC1)

28 (Also, I'd be interested to hear one of the lawyer morons weigh in on this.)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 15, 2015 03:15 PM (RD7QR)

Not a lawyer but it is obvious that the process is inverted. The gov't collects vast amounts of information on citizens yet doesn't collect anything on non-citizens. In the sane world, we could deny people entry for looking at us the wrong way.

Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:19 PM (KmBgd)

29 Now, can I get back to my backlash against law-abiding Americans? Sheesh!

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (3U4+k)

30 We haven't really had any significant terror events here.

Posted by: Bernie Caucuser at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (LYCUN)

31 I guess todays terror threat did claim a victim... A HS teen was struck and killed after leaving School...

Posted by: donna at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (/dSsq)

32

there is no civil right or constitutional right for non citizens to enter this country

barring entry to this country is not a criminal prosecution

they should be able to ask a person about their beliefs and if they believe in jihad exclude them from entry to this country

by doing so we are not "punishing" someone for theri beliefs, we are simply denying them entry into our country

Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (zOTsN)

33 There is no worse sin in Obama's America than being a racist. But being racist only works one way: a Black or member of an aggrieved group like a Muslim can never be racist. What flows from this is the Double Standard. We must racially profile some of the time, hence Affirmative Action, but not when common sense requires, e.g. police work, visa applications.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (r1fLd)

34
Paging Charles Martel to the courtesy phone. Paging Charles Martel...... Charles Martel, your assistance is required.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (8XRCm)

35 >>>And while Boothe's public support for the South could not itself land
him in prison -- I think that support could justify asking him where he
was on the night of the premier of Our American Cousin, n'est-ce pas?
.
.
.Actually it could have as Lincoln had suspended Habeas Corpus for the duration.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (iONHu)

36 I think we have a lot more terror attacks coming in the next year with this POS in the White House.

This Christmas seems like a great time, with the family all together, to go over possible terror scenarios and how various family members should react.

Posted by: jjod3 at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (3UYA8)

37 Let's not forget: Huma Abedin is connected to the MB, as well.

Posted by: elaine at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (Y0Piu)

38 It's John Wilkes Booth, no "e" in the surname.

****

Then shouldn't it be John Wilks Booth???

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (NeFrd)

39 Steve Coughlin has a new book out on this -- it is not just scandalous but impeachable

It's pretty clear that nobody in the GOP will do anything to Obama except wait him out. That gives him a lot of options.

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (LAe3v)

40 This Guy Is Such a Total Pussy - It's Stunning.

Posted by: Fritz at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (UzPAd)

41 So... American companies do a better job of vetting their employees than the government does of checking into possible terrorists trying to get in.

Why are we wasting time pretending the government is serious about anyone's (other than senior government offical's) safety?

Posted by: Deathknyte at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (pf6Bs)

42 Is Peggy Noonan still a c**t?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (KAi1n)

43 Prediction : Tonight will be the break-out moment for Pataki.

Said no one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (9mTYi)

44 Reports of a gunman at Indiana University

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 15, 2015 03:21 PM (fWAjv)

45 Aiding and abetting. I think there's a penalty for that.

Only down South

Posted by: Cousin Vinny at December 15, 2015 03:22 PM (gf8BH)

46 If the Dept of Homeland Security isn't going to do the job they were created to do, maybe we should shut it down?

Just a thought...

Posted by: elaine at December 15, 2015 03:22 PM (Y0Piu)

47 No "e" in Booth. He's in my family tree, sorry to say.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at December 15, 2015 03:22 PM (SCcgT)

48 this is why oil companies oppose trump.

Posted by: nate at December 15, 2015 03:22 PM (1OAT9)

49 It's pretty clear that nobody in the GOP will do anything to Obama except wait him out.

Muhammad Ali had it right. Rope-a-dope. It's unclear, though, precisely who is the dope.

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2015 03:22 PM (LAe3v)

50 24 Who and why are these fucks obeying an unlawful order? They work for WE THE PEOPLE. NOT obama. Not a one of them has the balls to tell him what he is doing it unconstitutional and dangerous and walk out and go to the press ?
seems to me they are (if it ever goes major south) going to try the Nuremberg defense, that didn't work out so well the first time!
Posted by: cold57 at December 15, 2015 03:19 PM (DYqn

--------------------------------

1) The bureaucrats hate you, they don't care what you think
2) You don't control their salary, Obama does
3) Did I mention they hate you

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 15, 2015 03:23 PM (LXJ1e)

51 Other than that, Mrs Robinson, how did you enjoy the play?

Posted by: msm interviewer at December 15, 2015 03:23 PM (DLIIY)

52 30 We haven't really had any significant terror events here.
Posted by: Bernie Caucuser at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (LYCUN)

Now if ISIS hits a Sanders caucus ...

Posted by: Zombie Harvey Milk at December 15, 2015 03:23 PM (oKE6c)

53 we do not have to prove why you are not allowed to ener this country

the burden of proof is on the applicant as to why he or she is qaulified for this privilege

not a right. its up to them to show why they should be admitted, up to an including providing their social media for review

Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (zOTsN)

54 Whose country is it anyway? Grandmas are made to take off their shoes if they want to get on a plane but you cannot even look funny at a Muslim.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (BJL0M)

55 Don't forget Fredo is almost single handedly responsible ( well with hillary's help) for over throwing Mubarak and installing the muslim brotherhood in Egypt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (gf8BH)

56 Muhammad Ali had it right. Rope-a-dope. It's unclear, though, precisely who is the dope.

Posted by: pep at December 15, 2015 03:22 PM (LAe3v)

Although who should get the rope is quite clear.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (oKE6c)

57 14
At this point that is probably the best scenario. The worst is there are mass conversions to Islam including among the elites, and we lose the country.
Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (KmBgd)

I can't help wondering if that isn't already happening.

Posted by: rickl at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (zoehZ)

58 Even my pantsuit is more honest than Barky!

Posted by: Hillary! at December 15, 2015 03:25 PM (64LyB)

59 Now if ISIS hits a Sanders caucus ...

****

They don't believe in Sanders Caucus do they?

Ho-Ho-Ho!

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2015 03:25 PM (NeFrd)

60 So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly? Since they are forbidden to screen potential terrorists or look for bad guys, what do they do all day? Why do we have them?

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 15, 2015 03:26 PM (dFi94)

61 They don't believe in Sanders Caucus do they?

Ho-Ho-Ho!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2015 03:25 PM (NeFrd)

*why am I laughing so hard at that

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 15, 2015 03:26 PM (fWAjv)

62 Andrew C. McCarthy's columns are all "required reading."

Posted by: Carol at December 15, 2015 03:26 PM (sj3Ax)

63 Even my pantsuit is more honest than Barky!

****

And holds up better under intense stress.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 15, 2015 03:26 PM (NeFrd)

64 4

They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (8XRCm)

Bug, or feature?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 03:27 PM (oKE6c)

65 It's like he's doing a dare. He follows a course that endangers citizens and has led to fatalities, and basically dares us to do anything about it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 15, 2015 03:27 PM (E5UB0)

66 So the powers that be are deliberately not doing their jobs, they are flat out lying about vetting everyone, lying again about this migrant wave being all Syrians, all of whom are war refugees, and playing guilt by association games (people who dare disagree are against ALL IMMIGRATION AND ARE RACISTS).

Meanwhile, Trump is in for a penny, in for a pound and taking the exact opposite tack.

Strangely, he's come out as being dead on right.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 15, 2015 03:27 PM (326rv)

67 60 -- apparently they do internet pR0n all day...

Posted by: elaine at December 15, 2015 03:27 PM (Y0Piu)

68 So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly

*poops in hallway*

*goes back to office to resume watching pron*

Posted by: Homeland Security at December 15, 2015 03:27 PM (LYCUN)

69 4
They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (8XRCm)

They already have: Ft. Hood, Boston, San Bernardino.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 15, 2015 03:28 PM (kpqmD)

70 There is a massive disconnect on the issue of rights that is now being brought into stark relief.

The Left believes, sincerely, that there is some type of fundamental right of every person on the planet to come to America at that person's will.

Why this is so when the same people vilify America is beyond my internet psychology.

The Right believes it is patently obvious that those who seek to come here are allowed in only at our will. We could say no one with blue eyes gets in and there's not one legal issue with that at all.

It's back to the problem that the two sides aren't even using the same language to discuss reality.

I despair, I despair.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 15, 2015 03:28 PM (mf5HN)

71 Priority 1 is letting in as many Third World, preferably nonwhilte ,nonChristians as possible, to effect a fundamental and permanent "transformation" (extinction) of American society as we know it. Asking troublesome questions that would slow or lessen the flow would conflict with Priority 1.

Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant buying dried foods at December 15, 2015 03:28 PM (k8tEg)

72 If anyone remembers the Dharun Ravi case, he was the guy who supposedly intimidated Tyler Clementi into killing himself. In that case, tweets he made in which he declared himself to be less then 100% enthused he had a gay roommate were used against him to prove bias intimidation. So there is court precedent for using speech made in social media against someone in a criminal proceeding, but apparently we can't screen social media in visa applications.

Unreal.

Posted by: JD Winston at December 15, 2015 03:28 PM (tLIRm)

73 It's like he's doing a dare. He follows a course that endangers citizens and has led to fatalities, and basically dares us to do anything about it.

When we do, the puny fedgov won't be able to do shit about it.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (mZLmb)

74 60 So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly? Since they are forbidden to screen potential terrorists or look for bad guys, what do they do all day? Why do we have them?

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 15, 2015 03:26 PM (dFi94)

Well look, I already told you! I deal with the goddamn tea partiers so the TFG folks don't have to! I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?

Posted by: DHS Smykowski at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (fWAjv)

75 I have Breaking News app & it could be nothing, but it said Indiana University students to take shelter.

Update-Gunman Reported.

Posted by: Carol at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (sj3Ax)

76 68 links?

Posted by: Weasel at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (6xtq3)

77 OK, I still need to read the whole thing, but seriously, WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE????????!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (NOIQH)

78 ...and basically dares us to do anything about it.
It's almost as if the GOP has openly declared that impeachment is off the table, forever.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (DLIIY)

79 Not to worry. Hillary is giving a speech today where she will "propose a comprehensive strategy to counter each step in the process that can lead to a terrorist attack like San Bernardino, from recruitment, to training, to planning, to execution, all while staying true to our values."

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (r1fLd)

80 So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly? Since they
are forbidden to screen potential terrorists or look for bad guys, what
do they do all day? Why do we have them?

Obviously they perform the vital role of redistributing wealth from Americans to the sort of people who 'work' for DHS.

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (ZbV+0)

81 58 Even my pantsuit is more honest than Barky!
Posted by: Hillary! at December 15, 2015 03:25 PM (64LyB)

If ever there was a woman who should be wearing skirts, it's her. Nobody wants to see that camel toe.

You're welcome.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (+YMhA)

82 68 So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly

*poops in hallway*

*goes back to office to resume watching pron*
Posted by: Homeland Security at December 15, 2015 03:27 PM (LYCUN)

Hang on. Pooping in hallways is the EPA's territory.

Posted by: Insomniac - Pale Horse/Death 2016 at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (kpqmD)

83 "Alright - which candidate, other than Trump, is an unapologetic American nationalist? Because that is what we are going to need and soon."

Another few points up for Trump.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (BJL0M)

84 Meanwhile, Trump is in for a penny, in for a pound and taking the exact opposite tack.

Strangely, he's come out as being dead on right.

Generally speaking, going the exact opposite of what TPTB think is right is a winning proposition.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (9krrF)

85 Whose country is it anyway? Grandmas are made to
take off their shoes if they want to get on a plane but you cannot even
look funny at a Muslim.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (BJL0M)
============================================

Nevermind grandmas. My son had to take off his boots and all assorted equipment WHILE IN U.S. ARMY UNIFORM to board a flight taking him to his deployment base. Had to go thru the scanner - the whole nine yards. U.S. Army soldiers are screened more than Mohammy Ohammet Abadinnni.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (dFi94)

86 Steve Coughlin has a new book out on this -- it is not just scandalous but impeachable-ace

Yeah that ship has sailed.
The next president won't be indicted either-vagina or saggy boobs or something

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (voOPb)

87 80 So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly? Since they
are forbidden to screen potential terrorists or look for bad guys, what
do they do all day? Why do we have them?

Obviously they perform the vital role of redistributing wealth from Americans to the sort of people who 'work' for DHS.
Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (ZbV+0)

Well, really, who else is gonna feel up grandma and knock old guy's ostomy bags off their seals?

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (+YMhA)

88 History : In 1929 Harry Stimson shut down state department intercepts "Gentlemen do not read other gentlemen's mail."

1950 something Joe McCarthy's investigation into communist agents infiltrating the federal government.

1970 something, The Church Commission shut down CIA activities inside the United States saying we do not spy on US citizens. Despite clear and obvious evidence that US citizens were working as agents of foreign powers.

Now, today, we learn that DHS was ordered to ignore activities of Muslims.

Anyone see a pattern?

Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 15, 2015 03:30 PM (YDzP2)

89 John Kerry has it right. Shaming is the answer. Parade the poor families of the San Bernadino victims and call Obama a murderer. Murdererers got to be called murderers, right Quentin?

Posted by: Dr. Manbube at December 15, 2015 03:31 PM (bmlzO)

90 So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly? Since they are forbidden to screen potential terrorists or look for bad guys, what do they do all day? Why do we have them?

Domestic intelligence. They're meant to keep an eye on us.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 15, 2015 03:31 PM (9krrF)

91 applicants for visa have no constitutionally given right to privacy

this is insane

Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:31 PM (zOTsN)

92 Disparate impact ... is another way criminals are being protected by Obama, but that helps the black thugs more than terrorists. And I think some court upheld disparate impact ... which pretty much means, either let blacks get away with crime, or start arresting innocent whites. Because blacks commit more crime on a percentage basis. So do "Hispanics". It started with housing but has moved into other criminal arrests, iirc.

Our government is at war with we the people.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 15, 2015 03:31 PM (26Yu7)

93 70 -- was thinking about the same thing just today; the left hates the concept that America is exceptional. Why do they think people want to come here, if not because America is better than the country of the immigrant's origin?

Posted by: elaine at December 15, 2015 03:31 PM (Y0Piu)

94 It's back to the problem that the two sides aren't even using the same language to discuss reality.

I despair, I despair.

Makes the impending divorce that much easier.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:31 PM (mZLmb)

95 IU-PU, "man with gun" seen. No word of shooting/s yet.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 15, 2015 03:31 PM (2cS/G)

96 Hang on. Pooping in hallways is the EPA's territory.
He got a promotion.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 15, 2015 03:32 PM (DLIIY)

97 The Department of Homeland Security is maybe the Biggest mistake President Bush ever made..It is NOTHING more than another bureaucratic level of incompetence and waste

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:32 PM (gf8BH)

98 >>The rationale is this: You cannot punish beliefs and statements. You can only punish actions.

Oh, OK, by all means, let's just wait until they blow up the Boston Marathon, or shoot up Ft. Hood before delving into the attackers' beliefs.

WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE????????!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:32 PM (NOIQH)

99 "Not a one of them has the balls to tell him what he is doing it unconstitutional and dangerous and walk out and go to the press ? "

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Press? That nest of vipers who would check with the Obama White House first.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2015 03:32 PM (BJL0M)

100 Since Before 9/11

If true, then more than just Obama and current employees.

In fact, should predate DHS, shouldn't it ?

Posted by: dDan at December 15, 2015 03:32 PM (hwYmz)

101 5:"Won't none of that CVE bs matter once we start playing cowboys and muzzies."

Time to party like it's 1099.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 15, 2015 03:33 PM (UPYPp)

102 79 Not to worry. Hillary is giving a speech today where she will "propose a comprehensive strategy to counter each step in the process that can lead to a terrorist attack like San Bernardino, from recruitment, to training, to planning, to execution, all while staying true to our values."
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2015 03:29 PM (r1fLd)

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Given her success of her plan for Libya, I might as well start wearing a bull's eye on my back.

Posted by: Make America Great Again at December 15, 2015 03:33 PM (LXJ1e)

103 They do this shit, and people die.

And you can bet that their database of vets returning from the Sand Wars is extensive, and that they track everything about them. Because veterans are right wing gun bits likely to go on a rampage at the drop of a hat. They really fucking believe that.

A group of people who are the result of 1400 years of chromosome-warping inbreeding and the constant exhortation to murder or enslave all infidels by their murder-god get a pass.

And people who were born here and fought for our freedom are considered a bigger threat.

Fuck you, Obama. Straight to Hell.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 15, 2015 03:33 PM (2RVA8)

104 "We can absorb another 9/11."

Posted by: Barack O' Skidmark at December 15, 2015 03:33 PM (9MbCY)

105 We have the DHS because the 911 commission recommended it. Bush was against it but eventually folded under a media deluge (how can you go against a BIPARTISAN COMMISSION!!!). Actually the deluge lasted about a month and he folded a couple months later. I always thought the timing was funny. Ever weathering the storm, why fold then? Like TARP, this was a big Bush blunder.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at December 15, 2015 03:34 PM (PvCxa)

106
WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:32 PM (NOIQH)

They, like most of the elites, are quite sure that terrorism will NEVER get to them or their loved ones. Simple as that.

We are cannon fodder for their ideology.

Except for that pesky 2nd amendment, we would be of no more importance than the peasantry were to Napoleon.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 15, 2015 03:34 PM (+YMhA)

107 "Let's not forget: Huma Abedin is connected to the MB, as well."

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With Huma as Hillary's chief of staff it would be Obama's third term, on steroids.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2015 03:34 PM (BJL0M)

108 My camel has no toe!

Posted by: Hillary! at December 15, 2015 03:34 PM (64LyB)

109 Ace, Booth was a spy. The assassination was originally planned as a kidnapping to force the North to repatriate POWs. When Lee surrendered, Booth went all Rambo. I know this cuz my great, great cousin ran all the spies in southern Maryland.

Oh, BTW, Roger Mudd's great, great grand dad was in on it. News people lie.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2015 03:34 PM (oDCMR)

110 Just out of curiosity, on 9/11, was the Senate in session? And was BS Barry present?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 15, 2015 03:34 PM (9krrF)

111 >>So- what does the Department of Homeland Security do exactly? Since they
are forbidden to screen potential terrorists or look for bad guys, what
do they do all day?

Apparently their main focus is moving illegals/ "unaccompanied minors" from the border to a DHS shelter, and then transporting them to the American city of their choice. Oh, and then assisting them in getting the rest of their family in, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:35 PM (NOIQH)

112 I can't help wondering if that isn't already happening.
Posted by: rickl at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (zoehZ)

I don't think so yet. But, Millenials' beliefs are so fragile that at some point the group is going to have an existential crisis. I doubt they'll turn to Christianity because it has been crushed for decades. Instead they'll turn to the ROP. Then the religious fervor they'll have will be truly frightening.

Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:36 PM (KmBgd)

113 CVE ?

Jeep carriers are an anti-terrorist doctrine?

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 15, 2015 03:36 PM (JOG+K)

114 denying entry to this cuntry based on your beluef in violent jihad is NOT punishment

and it is our right, not theirs

Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:37 PM (zOTsN)

115 WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE????????!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:32 PM (NOIQH)

They're evil idiots?

Just a guess.

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 15, 2015 03:37 PM (mf5HN)

116 Deadlocked Jury in first Baltimore Cop Trial.

Hum?

I wonder which way the hold out is?

Fucked up case

Cue the Riots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:37 PM (gf8BH)

117 They're going to get a lot of us killed aren't they?"

That's the plan...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at December 15, 2015 03:37 PM (C9pBZ)

118 Booth was a citizen

these people are not

Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:37 PM (zOTsN)

119 They, like most of the elites, are quite sure that terrorism will NEVER get to them or their loved ones. Simple as that.

Pro tip: If a fence can't keep them out of the country, a fence won't keep them out of your gated community.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:38 PM (mZLmb)

120 Deadlocked Jury in first Baltimore Cop Trial.

I don't know how they could find any of them guilty... Of course the deck was stacked against them...

Posted by: donna at December 15, 2015 03:38 PM (/dSsq)

121 Nothing new on Indiana U.

Posted by: Carol at December 15, 2015 03:38 PM (sj3Ax)

122 Deadlocked Jury in first Baltimore Cop Trial.

Hum?

I wonder which way the hold out is?

Fucked up case

Cue the Riots
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Didn't they select a black cop as the first victim of the show trial?

If so, then they did this about as well as everything else associated with this shitshow.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 15, 2015 03:38 PM (326rv)

123 >>Let's not forget: Huma Abedin is connected to the MB, as well

Up to her eyeballs! Just do a search of Andy McCarthy's columns over at PJMedia - he did several posts detailing ALL of her connections.
And then remember that Huma has worked for Hillary since college - she started as an intern, and has worked for Hillary ever since, becoming so close to her that she's referred to as Hillary's "second daughter."

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:38 PM (NOIQH)

124 Does Ace smell any Reichstag smoke yet?

Posted by: maddogg at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (xWW96)

125 this is just an extention of the lefts love of being global citizens with nation states being irrelevant

Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (zOTsN)

126 Your irrational hatred of our president is why the NSA needs more power!

Posted by: Miss Lindsey at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (LYCUN)

127 Obama is probably the best community organizer that we have ever had in the White House. And he bows real nice.

Posted by: goon at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (gy5kE)

128 116 Deadlocked Jury in first Baltimore Cop Trial.

Hum?

I wonder which way the hold out is?

Fucked up case

Cue the Riots
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Will Charm City go on lockdown or open spaces for destruction? If it's up to the cops you know the answer.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (oDCMR)

129 Let me guess, Gorelick is involved somehow.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (IFCfl)

130 Just out of curiosity, on 9/11, was the Senate in session? And was BS Barry present?
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The Illinois senate, maybe

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (ZbV+0)

131 I don't think so yet. But, Millenials' beliefs are so fragile that at some point the group is going to have an existential crisis. I doubt they'll turn to Christianity because it has been crushed for decades. Instead they'll turn to the ROP. Then the religious fervor they'll have will be truly frightening.

Wait until they have to toss their gay friends off of the roof.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:40 PM (mZLmb)

132 ------------------------
Will Charm City go on lockdown or open spaces for destruction? If it's up to the cops you know the answer

Guilty or innocent they'll riot anyway...

Posted by: donna at December 15, 2015 03:40 PM (/dSsq)

133 the really believe that the John Lennon song "Imagine" is a blueprint for progressive political reality

Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:40 PM (zOTsN)

134 125 this is just an extention of the lefts love of being global citizens with nation states being irrelevant
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Postmodernity in a nutshell. I blame Disney's 'It's a Small World Afterall'.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 15, 2015 03:40 PM (oDCMR)

135 The MOSTLY SECULAR Muslim Brotherhood, Ace.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 15, 2015 03:41 PM (oVJmc)

136 A WSJ article about John McCain hired discredited Syria expert Elizabeth O'Bagy mentioned that McCain has MB on his Senate staff. Makes one wonder how common that is...

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:41 PM (NOIQH)

137 And get this. Just like every other scandal in this administration, not a single person will lose their cushy government job. Not.A.One.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 15, 2015 03:41 PM (9iR5/)

138 "... he has returned to his old habits of lying and blame-shifting."

i wasn't aware that he had ever stopped doing that...

did i miss something?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 15, 2015 03:42 PM (1ONIj)

139 Okay. Well, it's good to know where you stand. It's good to know what
you're up against. It's good to have a plan. The time for being
astonished is diminishing. Another time is coming.

Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 15, 2015 03:42 PM (dFi94)

140 the really believe that the John Lennon song "Imagine" is a blueprint for progressive political reality
Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:40 PM (zOTsN)

Lennon would probably be a conservative today

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:42 PM (gf8BH)

141 Pro tip: If a fence can't keep them out of the country, a fence won't keep them out of your gated community.
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No shit, dude.

Posted by: Anwar Sadat at December 15, 2015 03:42 PM (ZbV+0)

142 The Left believes, sincerely, that there is some type of fundamental
right of every person on the planet to come to America at that person's
will.

Why this is so when the same people vilify America is beyond my internet psychology.

Agreed, on both counts.

The former belief is apparently simply without foundation; the Left seems to believe that by controlling immigration we are denying people their God-given right to come here. Where it comes from, I have no idea.

But the second, which is equally in evidence, is just irrational. If they think America is so awful, so racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, environmentally criminal, etc., why would they want to inflict it on our poor dusky friends?

It's almost as if they'll adopt whatever position at the time most undermines America.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 03:42 PM (oKE6c)

143 It's a race to see which is going to be taken over by jihadists first, the USA of Europe, all by the help of our respective governments.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2015 03:42 PM (k0xxN)

144 Let me guess, Gorelick is involved somehow.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (IFCfl)

As I said yesterday, she's probably as relieved that she isn't the biggest security policy screw-up as Jimmy Carter is that he lived to see someone worse than he was in the white House.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Happy Hysteria-days from teh Outrage Outlet! at December 15, 2015 03:43 PM (hLRSq)

145 Then the religious fervor they'll have will be truly frightening."

Exactly so. It's been mentioned here by a few that they'd imagine the sows on The View putting up a fight, while the reality is that each one will argue that they were the first to don a burka...

Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at December 15, 2015 03:43 PM (C9pBZ)

146 Racist = any white that does not openly confess to white privilege, and a huge debt to the whole world. must admit to KKK in his genes, and vote to open borders and give away assets.

Islam uses this tactic when they conquer a land, and allow Christians to live as dhimmis, paying a tax, not openly speaking of their belief. But why would a free people (tribe) accept such PC national religion?

Thanks Obama

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 15, 2015 03:43 PM (26Yu7)

147 133 the really believe that the John Lennon song "Imagine" is a blueprint for progressive political reality
Posted by: ThunderB at December 15, 2015 03:40 PM (zOTsN)

No need to thank me now.

Posted by: Mark David Chapman at December 15, 2015 03:44 PM (oKE6c)

148 Well good bye Baltimore,... been nice knowing ya

Nice stadium you had there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:44 PM (gf8BH)

149 Does Ace smell any Reichstag smoke yet?
Posted by: maddogg at December 15, 2015 03:39 PM (xWW96)

What do you think the press is waiting on when they pounce on each shooting? The PP situation in CO didn't work because the guy is obviously a loon. They are just waiting for one Christian with an agenda to shoot up the place. Then civil liberties will be out the door.

Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (KmBgd)

150 Pro tip: If a fence can't keep them out of the country, a fence won't keep them out of your gated community.
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No shit, dude"

That's my job.

Posted by: Samuel Colt at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (C9pBZ)

151 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (GwIKd)

152 The CEO of Sam's Club has been systematically refusing to hire white men and pressuring suppliers to fire white men on their staffs and hire minorities in their place.

And people in the media act as if this is the way things should be...

When you can hire and fire based on something random and irrelevant, like the color of someone's skin, hiring and firing based on religion and politics seems downright logical.

Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (Zs4uk)

153 119: "Pro tip: If a fence can't keep them out of the country, a fence won't keep them out of your gated community."

But it does provide a good sight picture while they are climbing.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (UPYPp)

154 Gee, I wonder if Jamie Gorelick has been consulting to Obongo ? Wall and all

Posted by: Eric Blair at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (KufO3)

155 8 blacks

4 Whites

I suspect one of the whites has balls and is holding out.

That's my guess, but I have been wrong before

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:46 PM (gf8BH)

156 Racist = any white that does not openly confess to white privilege, and a huge debt to the whole world. must admit to KKK in his genes, and vote to open borders and give away assets.

Islam uses this tactic when they conquer a land, and allow Christians to live as dhimmis, paying a tax, not openly speaking of their belief.

FYNQ.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:46 PM (mZLmb)

157 So, what we are saying here is that Barack Obama should be on the terror watch list?

*shocked face*

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 15, 2015 03:46 PM (3dOE/)

158 Just out of curiosity, on 9/11, was the Senate in session? And was BS Barry present?
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The Illinois senate, maybe

Bah. I guess it just seems like the little bastard's been around forever.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 15, 2015 03:46 PM (9krrF)

159 Exactly so. It's been mentioned here by a few that they'd imagine the
sows on The View putting up a fight, while the reality is that each one
will argue that they were the first to don a burka...

Don't be terribly surprised when moderate republicans join them en masse in the name of peace and understanding.

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 03:47 PM (ZbV+0)

160 This started with Bush the Younger. Too much pandering to two of the three countries we should have nuked after 9-11, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afhganistan.

Obama doubled down on stupid.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 15, 2015 03:47 PM (6fIOn)

161 Yeah, you probably do not want to be the guest of honor at an ISIS skydiving event. I wonder why the Nazis didn't think of that. Easier to build a tower than a gas chamber, and then ya just add a dash of free gravity to solve the problem. Those ISIS boys are pretty sharp.

Posted by: goon at December 15, 2015 03:47 PM (gy5kE)

162 The 21st century may be very bloody.

Posted by: Yo! at December 15, 2015 03:48 PM (GwIKd)

163 Dreadlocked jury?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 15, 2015 03:48 PM (FkBIv)

164 >>>the left hates the concept that America is exceptional.

They hate the fact that America is exceptional, and so they want to do away with the fact.

They think reality is morally obligated to make everyone the same, and if it hasn't they will hobble certain people or groups until reality conforms to what they think is moral.

They probably subconsciously realize that they cannot raise the evil and loathsome to a higher level, so they hobble that which is better. It's an immoral perversion of the impulse to help others or to think the best of them.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 15, 2015 03:48 PM (E5UB0)

165 Dreadlocked jury?

Bob Marleyites

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:49 PM (mZLmb)

166 I find none of this surprising. Obama wanted "to fundamentally destroy" America" and he is proceeding toward his goal.

Yeah, he actually hid his intention by using "transform" instead of "destroy" but the result is the same.

Violent moslems killing American citizens? There's no downside for Obama in that.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 15, 2015 03:50 PM (B8JRQ)

167 Deadlocked? Didn't they just start deliberating?

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 15, 2015 03:50 PM (2cS/G)

168 >>>The former belief is apparently simply without foundation; the Left
seems to believe that by controlling immigration we are denying people
their God-given right to come here. Where it comes from, I have no idea.

But
the second, which is equally in evidence, is just irrational. If they
think America is so awful, so racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic,
environmentally criminal, etc., why would they want to inflict it on our
poor dusky friends?

It's almost as if they'll adopt whatever position at the time most undermines America.
.
.
.It's simple really. Liberals have been taught from early on that America is a bad place and it is their sacred duty to change that. Nothing good can happen in America until all of the evil white people have been assimilated and their white privilege power broken. Only then will they be able to rebuild the Country into what they think is right.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 15, 2015 03:50 PM (iONHu)

169 They think reality is morally obligated to make everyone the same, and
if it hasn't they will hobble certain people or groups until reality
conforms to what they think is moral.

Which begs the question, Why exactly do Americans continue to tolerate progressives? What are we getting out of this arrangement that's worth the cost of continuing it?

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 03:51 PM (ZbV+0)

170 Recall also that a DHS whistleblower went on Megyn Kelly's show to say that his investigation was looking intto the SB shooter's mosque, among other, as a potential cell when he was shut down by the State Department and the Homeland Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, who said that tracking these groups was problematic because they were Islamic.

NYC Mayor DeBlasio recently shut down NYPD surveliance of mosques in New York and New Jersey.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2015 03:51 PM (r1fLd)

171 Next to the free right to immigrate to America, I'd put the misguided notion of Free (right to) Trade.

We only trade if it is good for US. If China shows they can more cheaply produce the marginal unit of widgets by stealing our technology, bribing our politicians, using disposable slave labor, cheating on production standards, and polluting like crazy .. that doesn't mean we are obligated to buy their cheaper product. Especially if they are building supersonic weapons to destroy US.

This "globalism" concept is a canard all the way down. John Lennon on LSD could Imagine there are no borders, but he's dead. America First. Good men died for this thing.

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 15, 2015 03:51 PM (26Yu7)

172 Deadlocked? Didn't they just start deliberating?
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 15, 2015 03:50 PM (2cS/G)

they are in their second and apparently last day.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:52 PM (gf8BH)

173 Wait until they have to toss their gay friends off of the roof.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:40 PM (mZLmb)

They'll doing while shouting Allahu Akbar.

Exactly so. It's been mentioned here by a few that they'd imagine the sows on The View putting up a fight, while the reality is that each one will argue that they were the first to don a burka...
Posted by: anon a mouse - now with more puppy! at December 15, 2015 03:43 PM (C9pBZ)

They'll probably just dawn headscarves and talk about how they are better Muslims. But yeah, they'll fold like cheap chairs.

Not to start a political fight, but besides Trump has anyone offered any realistic solutions. I mean Kikorian offered his ideas but they still have that "musn't discriminate by religion" mantra that shows a lack of seriousness. I mean he doesn't seem to understand the system is broken.

Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:52 PM (KmBgd)

174 Pro tip: If a fence can't keep them out of the country, a fence won't keep them out of your gated community.

Don't tell us; tell Barbra Streisand.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 03:52 PM (oKE6c)

175 >>Gee, I wonder if Jamie Gorelick has been consulting to Obongo ? Wall and all

I think it's only a matter of time before Gorelick's idiocy-with-a-body count will be surpassed by Wendy Sherman. Sherman worked for both Bill Clinton and Obama, being in charge of negotiating the nuke deals with N Korea and Iran, respectively.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 03:52 PM (NOIQH)

176 They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?

Posted by: fixerupper

That's the whole idea.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 15, 2015 03:52 PM (89T5c)

177 4 They're going to get a lot of us killed aren't they?

They already have, haven't they?

Posted by: despair at December 15, 2015 03:53 PM (VrdxH)

178 It's been mentioned here by a few that they'd imagine the sows on The
View putting up a fight, while the reality is that each one will argue
that they were the first to don a burka...

ISIS would put the sows on The View in burkas?

Maybe we should reconsider our opposition to ISIS ...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 03:53 PM (oKE6c)

179 When you can hire and fire based on something random and irrelevant, like the color of someone's skin, hiring and firing based on religion and politics seems downright logical.

Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (Zs4uk)

Business owners should be allowed to hire or fire people based on whatever they want. It's their business, not "society's". Of course, unions being given ownership rights over businesses that they work for is even more insane.

If Sam's Club hates white men then they should be allowed to not only not hire or fire all white men but they should be allowed to not offer any services to white men.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2015 03:54 PM (zc3Db)

180 Which begs the question, Why exactly do Americans continue to tolerate progressives? What are we getting out of this arrangement that's worth the cost of continuing it?

Given they occupy the high ground in a lot of ways, housecleaning becomes a difficult task.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 15, 2015 03:54 PM (9krrF)

181 I said it before and am starting to really wish Barak had stayed with his first calling, as a Muslim. Maybe he has.

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2015 03:54 PM (k0xxN)

182 This whole administration is one, big, steaming shitheap of a lie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 15, 2015 03:55 PM (89T5c)

183 >>>Nothing good can happen in America until all of the evil white people have been assimilated and their white privilege power broken.

I'm not sure they even believe that sincerely. BLMers I think are just spiteful, envious, immature people who rationalize their envy by pretending that they have been wronged somehow. White liberals feel a sort of survivor guilt, but I don't think they really feel it on an individual level, as one would actual guilt, since they only seem to punish other people for their privilege and are less inclined to make sacrifices themselves.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 15, 2015 03:55 PM (E5UB0)

184 Yeah, you probably do not want to be the guest of honor at an ISIS skydiving event. I wonder why the Nazis didn't think of that. Easier to build a tower than a gas chamber, and then ya just add a dash of free gravity to solve the problem. Those ISIS boys are pretty sharp.
Posted by: goon at December 15, 2015 03:47 PM (gy5kE)

It's about as sophisticated as Muslim technology gets.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 03:55 PM (oKE6c)

185 I said it before and am starting to really wish Barak had stayed with his first calling, as a ~~Muslim~~ rentboy.

FIFY

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 15, 2015 03:55 PM (9krrF)

186 "136 A WSJ article about John McCain hired discredited Syria expert Elizabeth O'Bagy mentioned that McCain has MB on his Senate staff. Makes one wonder how common that is..."

Proving more each day that GOPe must be destroyed to get any justice for the rest of the citizenry.

What's more, that "You have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency" pronouncement now makes sense.

Posted by: Decaf at December 15, 2015 03:56 PM (BJL0M)

187 Trump can win a 50 state sweep if he promises that when president, he will allow any business pressuring suppliers to hire based on race and gender to be sued out of existence.

White liberals will talk about how this is a good thing, but they would vote for Trump if he vowed to stop it.

Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2015 03:56 PM (Zs4uk)

188 170
Recall also that a DHS whistleblower went on Megyn Kelly's show to say that his investigation was looking intto the SB shooter's mosque, among other, as a potential cell when he was shut down by the State Department and the Homeland Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, who said that tracking these groups was problematic because they were Islamic.

NYC Mayor DeBlasio recently shut down NYPD surveliance of mosques in New York and New Jersey.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2015 03:51 PM (r1fLd)

Heading for another 9/11, we are.

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 15, 2015 03:56 PM (3dOE/)

189 2 days seems pretty quick to declare an implacable impasse. Maybe some dude just saying "I don't care, nyaaaah, nyaaaaah, I'm not changing my vote!".

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 15, 2015 03:56 PM (2cS/G)

190
It's about as sophisticated as Muslim technology gets.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 03:55 PM (oKE6c

Hey when life hands you rocks, you commit stonings

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 15, 2015 03:57 PM (voOPb)

191 Yeah, its bad, but apparently this has been the policy for 14 years. And that's unthinkable.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 15, 2015 03:57 PM (39g3+)

192
Obama doubled down on ~~stupid.~~ evil.

Posted by: Kristophr at December 15, 2015 03:47 PM (6fIOn)

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 15, 2015 03:57 PM (fWAjv)

193 187 Trump can win a 50 state sweep if he promises that when president, he will allow any business pressuring suppliers to hire based on race and gender to be sued out of existence.

White liberals will talk about how this is a good thing, but they would vote for Trump if he vowed to stop it.
Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2015 03:56 PM (Zs4uk)

50 state sweep?!? Whatever you are drinking, snorting, smoking or shooting, cut it out.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 15, 2015 03:58 PM (voOPb)

194 Hackers Trace Some ISIS Twitter Accounts To British Government Workers

Britain is doomed.

Weasel Zippers

And the USA is not that far behind

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:58 PM (gf8BH)

195 174 Pro tip: If a fence can't keep them out of the country, a fence won't keep them out of your gated community.

Don't tell us; tell Barbra Streisand.

Shhhhhh. Let 'em find out the hard way. I'm done arguing with them.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 03:58 PM (mZLmb)

196 Can't screen aliens terrorist social media but our AG says to us citizens that she will prosecute anti Muslim hate speech. We've now gone through the looking glass. GD MF OB

Posted by: Redinabluestate at December 15, 2015 03:58 PM (FbPAe)

197 Yeah but Booth was white so it was ok.

Posted by: brak at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (xwPSp)

198 50 state sweep?!?

what about the other seven?

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (ZQfW9)

199 A WSJ article about John McCain hired discredited Syria expert Elizabeth O'Bagy mentioned that McCain has MB on his Senate staff. Makes one wonder how common that is...

A search of MB + TFP turns up all sorts of unpronounceable foreign names and high titles.

And taxpayer dollars, too.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (LUgeY)

200 STP = Scientifically Treated Petroleum. Any other usage is just plain wrong. Harrumph!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (7MWCL)

201 Whatever you are drinking, snorting, smoking or shooting, cut it out.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 15, 2015 03:58 PM (voOPb)

Or share...them is the rules!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (gf8BH)

202 When you can hire and fire based on something random and irrelevant, like the color of someone's skin, hiring and firing based on religion and politics seems downright logical.

Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2015 03:45 PM (Zs4uk)

The class action lawyers are going to have a feast and Sam's Club is going to be the main course unless the Board of Directors gets off their thumbs and pushes her out.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Happy Hysteria-days from teh Outrage Outlet! at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (hLRSq)

203 Why not form a new exciting branch of Islam? Study the Koran, edit-find-replace "women" and "infidels" with "progressives" and then worship accordingly.

Posted by: Dr. Manbube at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (bmlzO)

204 34
Paging Charles Martel to the courtesy phone. Paging Charles Martel...... Charles Martel, your assistance is required.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (8XRCm)

Vlad Tepes--please meet Charles Martel in the staging area.

Posted by: Northernlurker, feeling grumpy today at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (4rzL1)

205 191 Yeah, its bad, but apparently this has been the policy for 14 years. And that's unthinkable.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 15, 2015 03:57 PM (39g3+

Homeland Security what a fucking joke.

Outreach, GW had a meal with those murdering bastards after Ramadan. It appears no one in govt believes in evil.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 15, 2015 03:59 PM (voOPb)

206 If Sam's Club hates white men then they should be allowed to not only not hire or fire all white men but they should be allowed to not offer any services to white men.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair

And change the name to Sambo's Club.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 15, 2015 04:00 PM (FkBIv)

207 Yeah, its bad, but apparently this has been the policy for 14 years. And that's unthinkable.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 15, 2015 03:57 PM (39g3+)

Since you mentioned it ... Unthinkable is a great movie! There are a few minor holes and issues but overall a fantastic flick.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2015 04:00 PM (zc3Db)

208 >>>BLMers I think are just spiteful, envious, immature people who
rationalize their envy by pretending that they have been wronged
somehow.

It provides them with an excuse for their personal failures. They would be valedictorians, highly sought after employees, viewed as intelligent and resourceful, rich and famous - of course they would - BUT FOR having been cheated and held down by The Man. Their abject failures are not their fault, or demonstration of their place in the natural order of things. No. That cannot be. They must have been wronged, in ways that even with their towering intellects they cannot divine. The white man is just that clever.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 04:00 PM (oKE6c)

209 2 days seems pretty quick to declare an implacable impasse. Maybe some dude just saying "I don't care, nyaaaah, nyaaaaah, I'm not changing my vote!".
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 15, 2015 03:56 PM (2cS/G)

And that can be on either side.

New firm once had a jury come back in half an hour. It was a business dispute and not overly complicated but I still cannot figure out how the jury held the vote for foreman, read the entire four page jury verdict form, answered all 14 questions and told the tip staff that fast. I mean, didn't at least one person have to use the bathroom before they got started?

Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 15, 2015 04:00 PM (mf5HN)

210 And change the name to Sambo's Club.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 15, 2015 04:00 PM (FkBIv)

Touché!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 15, 2015 04:01 PM (zc3Db)

211 Unionistas are probably liberal not in the white guilt sense, but because they thought Obama would act in their best interests. If they can be made to realize how badly he has betrayed them, perhaps they will finally realize that it is not in their best interests to continue to vote Dems into office.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 15, 2015 04:01 PM (E5UB0)

212 Paging Charles Martel to the courtesy phone. Paging Charles Martel...... Charles Martel, your assistance is required.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (8XRCm)

Vlad Tepes--please meet Charles Martel in the staging area.

William Tecumseh Sherman, saddle up please!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2015 04:02 PM (mZLmb)

213 Vlad Tepes--please meet Charles Martel in the staging area.

John Sobieski, your party is being seated...John Sobieski, your party is being seated...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at December 15, 2015 04:03 PM (9krrF)

214 Paging Charles Martel to the courtesy phone. Paging Charles Martel...... Charles Martel, your assistance is required.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (8XRCm)

Vlad Tepes--please meet Charles Martel in the staging area.

William Tecumseh Sherman, saddle up please!
---
Can I get in on this?

Posted by: Zombie Genghis Khan astride his zombie mount leading a zombie horde at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (ZbV+0)

215 Andrew Brianca at Legal Insurrection has blog article up that the trial for officer in Freddy Grey murder that jury is hung, judge orders going back

Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (k0xxN)

216 Dreadlocked jury?

12 Dangly Men

Posted by: irright at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (pMGkg)

217 196:"Can't screen aliens terrorist social media but our AG says to us citizens that she will prosecute anti Muslim hate speech."

But if the jihadis AREN'T really muslims, then their hate speech is anti-islam.

And if their hate speech is anti-islam, then any such anti-silamic posts on FB would not be protected by CVE.

And if these posts are not protected by CVE, then we CAN keep these animals out based on their anti-Islamic hate speech.

Which we can totes legally view now.

See? Even lefty words and "logic" allows for us to have the ability to exclude the jihadis who are stupid enough to post shit online.

Like the one we imported and settled in San Bernardino.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (UPYPp)

218 >>Hackers Trace Some ISIS Twitter Accounts To British Government Workers

*ahem*
Out in the open, no hacking required.

http://tinyurl.com/npqqw99

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (NOIQH)

219 >>> Ace, Booth was a spy. The assassination was originally planned as a kidnapping to force the North to repatriate POWs. When Lee surrendered, Booth went all Rambo.

Example #4,957 why actors should be removed from politics...

Posted by: LizLem at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (hvf9s)

220 >>215 Andrew Brianca at Legal Insurrection has blog article up that the trial for officer in Freddy Grey murder that jury is hung, judge orders going back
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (k0xxN)

"They said we was hung, and they was right!" /Blazing Saddles

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 04:05 PM (oKE6c)

221 Let's take everything W failed to do and turn it up to 11ty!

Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2015 04:06 PM (DL2i+)

222 >>> Lennon would probably be a conservative today
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:42 PM (gf8BH)

And divorced from Yoko, I firmly believe that. He was going more and more conservative at the end, whereas she is as moonbatty left as she ever was.

Posted by: LizLem at December 15, 2015 04:06 PM (hvf9s)

223 And today's headlines from "The National Enquirer"
(I copied them down because the person in front of me at the store had a lot of items):

"Impeach Obama now. He did nothing to stop the California massacre."

"Exposed: 93 ISIS cells here."

"Where they'll strike next"

-O.K. Unless they have a soldier boy of the Caliphate on staff I don't know how they'd could know how many there are and where they7'd strike, but they did break the info on John Edwards, and so far they're the only print publication having the balls to call for Obama's impeachment. (Actually, one of those other tabloids might be calling for his impeachment too)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2015 04:07 PM (No/ki)

224 Unionistas are probably liberal not in the white guilt sense, but because they thought Obama would act in their best interests. If they can be made to realize how badly he has betrayed them, perhaps they will finally realize that it is not in their best interests to continue to vote Dems into office.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner

I own these dumbfuckers lock, stock, and barrel!

Posted by: Richard Trumpka at December 15, 2015 04:07 PM (89T5c)

225 Can I get in on this?
Posted by: Zombie Genghis Khan astride his zombie mount leading a zombie horde

Why not!

Posted by: Paul Kersey at December 15, 2015 04:07 PM (FkBIv)

226 214 Paging Charles Martel to the courtesy phone. Paging Charles Martel...... Charles Martel, your assistance is required.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (8XRCm)

Vlad Tepes--please meet Charles Martel in the staging area.

William Tecumseh Sherman, saddle up please!
---
Can I get in on this?
Posted by: Zombie Genghis Khan astride his zombie mount leading a zombie horde at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (ZbV+0) I have an idea!

Posted by: James Puckle at December 15, 2015 04:09 PM (fWAjv)

227 "GOP bill would require vetting of immigrants' online statements"- http://politi.co/1NQ88Nv

"House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said Monday that his panel, which oversees immigration policies, is drafting a bill that would overhaul the screening process for visas, including the so-called 'fiancee visa' that Tashfeen Malik used to enter the United States.

[...]

The legislation from Goodlatte's committee would require in-person interviews for both the immigrant applying for the visa and the U.S. citizen sponsor at each step of the vetting process, the panel said. The bill would also require federal officials reviewing the visa application to review the employment and education history of the immigrant, as well as an 'open source' information - such as social media accounts."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at December 15, 2015 04:09 PM (YjDyJ)

228 Questions about radical Islam are NOT who we are.

Posted by: The GOP at December 15, 2015 04:09 PM (WTbmS)

229 So where are our elite, our paid thinkers on this Rosalind Brewer story?

Is this outrage I feel just a product of being a hick in flyover country? Am I wrong in thinking that someone in a position of power pressuring suppliers to cull their executives and hire blacks and women should be a crime?

Brewer's logic must play better in the coffee shops of the Upper East Side than they do in small town America. Silence is acceptance.

Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2015 04:09 PM (Zs4uk)

230 Example #4,957 why actors should be removed from politics...
Posted by: LizLem

I'm #4958.

Posted by: Sean Penn at December 15, 2015 04:10 PM (89T5c)

231 Andrew Brianca at Legal Insurrection has blog article up that the trial for officer in Freddy Grey murder that jury is hung, judge orders going back

That's the best possible outcome for the peace-loving part of Baltimore. Hung jury, retrial. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Nothing good will ever come out of any other decision.

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 15, 2015 04:10 PM (7v/r5)

232 The cylinder that fires round bullets was designed to be used against Christian enemies and the cylinder firing square bullets was intended to be used against the Turks, who were Muslim

Posted by: James Puckle at December 15, 2015 04:10 PM (fWAjv)

233 14 They're going to get a lot of us killed arent they?
Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:12 PM (8XRCm)

At this point that is probably the best scenario. The worst is there are mass conversions to Islam including among the elites, and we lose the country.

Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (KmBgd)
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so.... working as intended\designed. check.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 15, 2015 04:11 PM (MbrzC)

234 Hey Obama, you're no good, you're no good, TFG, you're no good.

Posted by: Linda Ronstadt at December 15, 2015 04:11 PM (TxJGV)

235 Appalling but not surprising.

The Prez and his people are on the other side.
Impeachment? nope, there is no opposition party.

Posted by: Bob from TSA at December 15, 2015 04:11 PM (yvwr7)

236 Spencer Ackerman. He claims credit for doing this. He has blood on his hands.

I keep saying this.

Posted by: blaster at December 15, 2015 04:12 PM (2Ocf1)

237 Brewer's logic must play better in the coffee shops of the Upper East
Side than they do in small town America. Silence is acceptance.

Shhh.

Talking about that sort of thing embarrasses the Megan Kelly crowd.

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 04:12 PM (ZbV+0)

238 >>-O.K. Unless they have a soldier boy of the
Caliphate on staff I don't know how they'd could know how many there are
and where they7'd strike, but they did break the info on John Edwards,
and so far they're the only print publication having the balls to call
for Obama's impeachment. (Actually, one of those other tabloids might
be calling for his impeachment too)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2015 04:07 PM (No/ki)

The National Enquirer and Pravda are actually more credible than the NYT, WaPo, LAT, or the alphabet networks.
Truly, these are End Times.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 04:14 PM (oKE6c)

239
http://tinyurl.com/hs33oce

Spencer Ackerman crowing.

Posted by: blaster at December 15, 2015 04:15 PM (2Ocf1)

240 Baltimore jury is back to deliberating.

I lost a bet on the OJ trial where I would have won with a hung jury or a conviction, but lost on an acquittal. Other guy was tipped by a prosecutor uncle who called the outcome as soon as he saw the jury that got picked. That's because he knew the jury members had to go back to the 'hood when it was over.

Judge in Baltimore case has refused a change of venue, and has refused to sequester the jury.

Will the jury convict on a lesser charge? Will that prevent a riot?

Baltimore murders are up over 40% for 2015 with only half a year of the Freddie Gray effect. Shootings are up 80% for the same period. This is directly attributable to the Baltimore police being far less proactive. Baltimore now has nearly as many homicides as far larger Chicago.

Any conviction of any of the cops involved will seal this.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2015 04:15 PM (r1fLd)

241 12 Impeachable? Hahahaha.

Posted by: Paul Ryan at December 15, 2015 03:15 PM (LYCUN)

Posted by: Bob from TSA at December 15, 2015 04:15 PM (yvwr7)

242 234 Hey Obama, you're no good, you're no good, TFG, you're no good.
Posted by: Linda Ronstadt at December 15, 2015 04:11 PM (TxJGV)

Speaking Linda Ronstadt, has she been drafted yet by the NFL to play on the offensive line? Or will she have to slim down a bit to do that?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 04:16 PM (oKE6c)

243 226
214 Paging Charles Martel to the courtesy phone. Paging Charles Martel...... Charles Martel, your assistance is required.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 15, 2015 03:20 PM (8XRCm)

Vlad Tepes--please meet Charles Martel in the staging area.

William Tecumseh Sherman, saddle up please!
---
Can I get in on this?
Posted by: Zombie Genghis Khan astride his zombie mount leading a zombie horde at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (ZbV+0) I have an idea!

Posted by: James Puckle at December 15, 2015 04:09 PM (fWAjv)

Yeah, what's that?

Posted by: Hiram Maxim at December 15, 2015 04:16 PM (3dOE/)

244 nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2015 04:16 PM (ZQfW9)

245 In the sane world, we could deny people entry for looking at us the wrong way.

Spell jihad correct and you're out.
Reply to Aloha with Snackbar and it's back on the plane.

Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2015 04:17 PM (DL2i+)

246 Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 04:14 PM (oKE6c)

Oh, I definitely think they;re more credible than Pravda Press.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 15, 2015 04:17 PM (No/ki)

247 What we really need are you encryption protocols to better spy on you.

That'll fix it.

Posted by: Creeping Totalitarianism at December 15, 2015 04:17 PM (IE1yw)

248 Unless someone is arrested, they will keep doing this shit.

We really need to ditch the supremacy clause.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at December 15, 2015 04:18 PM (sqs5K)

249 "GOP bill would require vetting of immigrants' online statements"- http://politi.co/1NQ88Nv

"House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said Monday that his panel, which oversees immigration policies, is drafting a bill that would overhaul the screening process for visas, including the so-called 'fiancee visa' that Tashfeen Malik used to enter the United States.

Yeah, we all know where that bill is going. Nowhere fast. Failure Theatre, Now Starring Paul Ryan in the role that John Boehner made famous.

Posted by: Bob from TSA at December 15, 2015 04:18 PM (yvwr7)

250 Speaking Linda Ronstadt, has she been drafted yet by the NFL to play on the offensive line? Or will she have to slim down a bit to do that?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 15, 2015 04:16 PM (oKE6c)

I think she's out with a broken hip.

Posted by: OregonMuse at December 15, 2015 04:18 PM (MZk6F)

251 >>>>>See? Even lefty words and "logic" allows for us to have the ability to exclude the jihadis who are stupid enough to post shit online.

Like the one we imported and settled in San Bernardino.
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at December 15, 2015 04:04 PM (UPYPp)

This is the kinda shit that makes Trump look good to so many people. He's tapped into the outrage that so many are feeling and when people no longer believe they are represented they turn to a populist who taps into their emotions. I'm in a hotel in Lansing, MI going to a meeting in Syria Midwest (Dearborn) tomorrow. I'm going to do my best to not have my head explode from all this bullshit knowing that somewhere in that city 8% of the population believes terrorism is good.

Posted by: Redinabluestate at December 15, 2015 04:19 PM (O5kfj)

252 Shhh.

Talking about that sort of thing embarrasses the Megan Kelly crowd.

Posted by: Methos at December 15, 2015 04:12 PM (ZbV+0)

This is why we need a "JournOList". You know the WalMart board is watching how this is trending and what social media is saying.

By having our writers ignore it completely or just mention it in passing - no outrage - Brewer gets a pass.

Posted by: jwest at December 15, 2015 04:19 PM (Zs4uk)

253 "Exposed: 93 ISIS cells here."

The National Enquirer could be basing this on the number of active FBI investigations. Comey was talking quite openly about how the FBI was getting overwhelmed before Obama ordered him to shut up.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 15, 2015 04:19 PM (r1fLd)

254 So the Resident is a mohamadan. No other explanation.

Posted by: Eromero at December 15, 2015 04:20 PM (b+df9)

255 This started with Bush the Younger. Too much pandering to two of the three countries we should have nuked after 9-11, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afhganistan.

Obama doubled down on stupid.
Posted by: Kristophr
--------------------------------------------------------
More and more I think that BDS wasn't just spontaneous, unthinking hatred. It was a calculated plan to get us to support him by attacking him, as a distraction from his actual policies. Ah, but Jeb will fix it.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 15, 2015 04:20 PM (E5UB0)

256 And here is the thing. None of this new. That Ackerman piece is from 2012.

We have all read and known about the people in DoD bounced for talking about radical Islam. No, not like MAJ Nidal, talking about how wanted to be a radical, but for pointing out there is radical Islam and that it conducts terrorism.

We knew they were abandoning this stuff years ago.

Posted by: blaster at December 15, 2015 04:20 PM (2Ocf1)

257 Dear Bob (or whomever has AOSHQ assigned to them today),

We American citizens (yes, citizens, not alien residents) actually are pissed off that the Yuuuuge apparatus of the DHS is being used to spy on us.
There are those of us who through political affiliation with leftwing causes, applaud your focus on the so-called right wing, as ordered by DOJ heads and higher up. But those people aren't the majority.
The majority just want you to do your fucking jobs, which is to keep the citizenry safe from attack, which includes terrorism. The majority aren't even political until a week before elections, and a week after, go back to their lives.

But you know that already, don't you? It's just that you have so much time on your hands, what with being ordered NOT to investigate actual threats, that you know the American people better than they know themselves.

Does it make you feel good knowing what Joe Skoronski from Peoria is thinking, but not what Imam Abdullah Mohammed Mohammed Akbar Azis is preaching?

If you're wondering why Americans have such a distrust of their own government these days, wonder no more.

Sincerely,
Millions of expendable cannon fodder formerly known as Americans.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 15, 2015 04:21 PM (kKHcp)

258 The worst is there are mass conversions to Islam including among the elites, and we lose the country.
Posted by: WOPR at December 15, 2015 03:16 PM (KmBgd)

Keep in mind that Spain de-Islamed itself.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 15, 2015 04:21 PM (0NdlF)

259 How is one supposed to "connect the dots" if they aren't allowed to look at the dots?

BBBBBBUUUUUUUSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!1!!!

Posted by: 9/11 Commission at December 15, 2015 04:21 PM (yn6XZ)

260 What I DON"T want to hear from any GOP candidate: That we need to allow NSA to resume spying on US citizens.

I demand that as a US citizen I get at least as much deference from the national socialist government as your average Muzzie alien.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at December 15, 2015 04:22 PM (yvwr7)

261 And once again, history / facts / events prove Trump to be right, no matter how inelegantly he frames his off the cuff statements.

Please note before flaming me that it pains me to admit this, but Trumps says "hey - some people coming here from Mexico are bad!" and 2 weeks later, an American is murdered by .... a person from Mexico. Then Trump says "hey, we need to pause immigration to this country until we can figure out what the government is doing wrong!" And two weeks later, it turns out that the government is not just incompetent (missed a fake address) but willfully blind.

What concerns me the most, however, is how quickly facts come spilling out, and comprehensive articles are written about what went wrong. If all these writers and witnesses knew all this before, and apparently they did given how quickly really thorough articles are hitting the interwebs, then why are we ordinary Americans just now finding out?

Posted by: the other coyote at December 15, 2015 04:25 PM (yK44T)

262 Dear Bob (or whomever has AOSHQ assigned to them today),

We American citizens (yes, citizens, not alien residents) actually are pissed off that the Yuuuuge apparatus of the DHS is being used to spy on us.
There are those of us who through political affiliation with leftwing causes, applaud your focus on the so-called right wing, as ordered by DOJ heads and higher up. But those people aren't the majority.
The majority just want you to do your fucking jobs, which is to keep the citizenry safe from attack, which includes terrorism. The majority aren't even political until a week before elections, and a week after, go back to their lives.

But you know that already, don't you? It's just that you have so much time on your hands, what with being ordered NOT to investigate actual threats, that you know the American people better than they know themselves.

Does it make you feel good knowing what Joe Skoronski from Peoria is thinking, but not what Imam Abdullah Mohammed Mohammed Akbar Azis is preaching?

If you're wondering why Americans have such a distrust of their own government these days, wonder no more.

Sincerely,
Millions of expendable cannon fodder formerly known as Americans.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

Posted by: Emporer DingleBarry at December 15, 2015 04:26 PM (89T5c)

263 look, objecting that Malik had no rights as an alien is a legal non-starter with these globalist types

the UN Declaration of Human Rights (194

is their legal creed

"national sovereignty" disgusts them

they regard it as a relic of the 19th century

Posted by: Feh at December 15, 2015 04:34 PM (3leF2)

264 sock off

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 15, 2015 04:39 PM (t2KH5)

265 Don't forget Fredo is almost single handedly
responsible ( well with hillary's help) for over throwing Mubarak and
installing the muslim brotherhood in Egypt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 15, 2015 03:24 PM (gf8BH)

Thankfully the Egyptians got tired of the MB's particular brand of crazy and re-coup de tat-ed.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 15, 2015 04:44 PM (OrI3J)

266 We need to call for the impeachment of McConnell in the Senate and Ryan in the House - for dereliction of duty.
If they won't impeach Obama, then we need to impeach them.

Posted by: LGoPs at December 15, 2015 05:16 PM (4ftY2)

267
You never knew we co-opted the US Government with our fabulous ideas.

PS - Hi Huma!

Posted by: The Muslim Brotherhood at December 15, 2015 05:16 PM (OiFtZ)

268 I'm going to do my best to not have my head explode from all this bullshit knowing that somewhere in that city 8% of the population believes terrorism is good.
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Probably higher, it's just 8% will admit to it.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 15, 2015 05:48 PM (MbrzC)

269 260 What I DON"T want to hear from any GOP candidate: That we need to allow NSA to resume spying on US citizens.

I demand that as a US citizen I get at least as much deference from the national socialist government as your average Muzzie alien.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at December 15, 2015 04:22 PM (yvwr7)
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This. Carley, Fatman, and Rubio are dead to me.

Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 15, 2015 05:50 PM (MbrzC)

270 terrorist sympathizers? starts at the top.

Those 'winds' shifted on 9-11

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 15, 2015 06:05 PM (T78UI)

271 The rationale is this: You cannot punish beliefs and statements. You can only punish actions.
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Then why aren't all the people on the No-fly list in jail for "what they've done?" And really, isn't a conviction the only way to know what somebody is legally considered to have done? And yet, the Obama administration themselves started this meme that if you are a suspect on the No-fly list (and not even you--just *your name*), that you shouldn't be able to buy a gun like the rest of the boys and girls.

The administration refutes itself again and again.

Posted by: Axeman at December 15, 2015 08:39 PM (2mC6G)

272 CVE is nothing more than the civilian counterpart of the Rules of Engagement forced onto our military which hampers their ability to deal properly with Islamacist combatants and causes them to take unnecessary casualties.

Posted by: javapoppa at December 15, 2015 09:17 PM (dV9yT)

273 Prediction:

When she leaves the White House with Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett will quietly get a great job in Malaysia.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at December 15, 2015 11:18 PM (e8kgV)

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