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Rush Limbaugh: Trump Criticizing Cruz for Clashing With the Establishment Punks of the Senate Gives Me Pause About His Real Ideology
"Red flags," he says.
Rush also took Trump to task for knocking Scalia's questions about the "mismatch" theory of Affirmative Action (quota) promotion. Allahpundit makes a good point about Trump calling Cruz a "maniac" for disagreeing with his Senate colleagues: Is Trump a strongman who's going to impose his will on a recalcitrant opposite party (which is what his conservative-minded supporters think), or is he a post-partisan "negotiator" who will make sweet deals with them? Depending on the day of the week, Trump pumps out both messages; sometimes he'll pump both out in the same sentence. I know the claimed response to this, which has become Conventional Wisdom: Trump is staking out the most maximalist initial bargaining position to secure the "best deal." Is he doing that on Affirmative Action, then? Or Ethanol? Or suddenly conceiving the American government as so powerful and so superior to the state governments that it can, at will, dip into state prosecutions and impose the death penalty? What? A lot of people say Trump is a good salesman, including Trump himself. I happen to agree. But the trouble is a salesman's job is full of puffery, exaggeration, and outright swindles. As they say in Glengarry Glen Ross; you say anything you need to say to get them to sign on the line that is dotted. Doesn't matter if it's true. That can all be worked out later, in court, if it comes to that, and court is very expensive.I often feel I'm getting the okie-doke from Trump. And when I say "often," I mean it in the technical sense of "always."
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Posted by: johnd01 at December 14, 2015 05:21 PM (ukNFU)
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Yay!
Posted by: johnd01 at December 14, 2015 05:21 PM (ukNFU)
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I summoned the others.
Posted by: johnd01 at December 14, 2015 05:23 PM (ukNFU)
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From the now dead thread:
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@176
Well, that was a hot mess, but I think you get the picture. I
posted this morning that the times, they are a'changin'. Wheels in
motion, etc. I think this is proof positive.
Cruz looks good in
comparison to the Donald, and that's all upside. Trump has been
extremely helpful, but he's not a President. Nonetheless, he has
dramatically shifted the Overton window, and Cruz is the beneficiary.
Not to mention the rest of the country.
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@176
Well, that was a hot mess, but I think you get the picture. I
posted this morning that the times, they are a'changin'. Wheels in
motion, etc. I think this is proof positive.
Cruz looks good in
comparison to the Donald, and that's all upside. Trump has been
extremely helpful, but he's not a President. Nonetheless, he has
dramatically shifted the Overton window, and Cruz is the beneficiary.
Not to mention the rest of the country.
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:23 PM (LAe3v)
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Ace,
You often reserve judgement, which is a testament to your demeanor and probably good for your brand (Ewoks-R-Us), so it is gratifying to hear that you have your suspicions about the Great and Mighty Trump.
I think he is Obama with funnier hair.
You often reserve judgement, which is a testament to your demeanor and probably good for your brand (Ewoks-R-Us), so it is gratifying to hear that you have your suspicions about the Great and Mighty Trump.
I think he is Obama with funnier hair.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:23 PM (Zu3d9)
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Where the white boys at?
Posted by: Bowe Bergdhal's Taliban Husband at December 14, 2015 05:23 PM (/FOB4)
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Trump is a proprietor of snake oil. Nothing more.
Posted by: maddogg at December 14, 2015 05:23 PM (xWW96)
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I'm beginning to cool a bit on the Trumpster. Attacking Cruz isn't helping him any.
Posted by: johnd01 at December 14, 2015 05:24 PM (ukNFU)
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I was amused by Trump, but now he's trying to get in good with GOPe.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:24 PM (sj3Ax)
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Rush was anti Trump (kind of) today ........and Pro Cruz
yeah!!!
yeah!!!
Posted by: blank at December 14, 2015 05:24 PM (mcLtI)
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I don't know that expression- "getting the okie-doke"-that it's just a sales job with no sincerity behind it-saying whatever needs to be said to make the sale?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:24 PM (No/ki)
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It looks to me like Cruz's's sudden surge to the front in Iowa is just the movement of voters away from Carson to Cruz.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 14, 2015 05:25 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at December 14, 2015 05:25 PM (/pB9Z)
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"As they say in Glengarry Glen Ross; you say anything you need to say to get them to sign on the line that is dotted."
And as I pointed out to Rick Perry and to Fred Thompson -- two good men that I was itching to vote for -- in past years, the nomination is for closers.
And as I pointed out to Rick Perry and to Fred Thompson -- two good men that I was itching to vote for -- in past years, the nomination is for closers.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 05:25 PM (iIzG7)
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It doesn't really bother me much. Trump is just in full on "win" mode, and he's used to stomping on whoever is under him on the ladder no matter what happens to them or how it looks.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:26 PM (39g3+)
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I'm beginning to cool a bit on the Trumpster. Attacking Cruz isn't helping him any.
Unless it's being done with a wink and a nod. I seem to remember these two meeting a few months back. I wonder what they talked about.
Unless it's being done with a wink and a nod. I seem to remember these two meeting a few months back. I wonder what they talked about.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2015 05:26 PM (LUgeY)
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I often feel I'm getting the okie-doke from Trump. And when I say "often," I mean it in the technical sense of "always."
I can't imagine why.
I can't imagine why.
Posted by: Casino investors who lost their shirts, while Trump made money at December 14, 2015 05:26 PM (LAe3v)
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I think it's poor form for him to criticize Cruz. I would rather Trump go energetically and continually after Hillary and Obama's colossal errors.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:26 PM (No/ki)
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I read an article that Trump only pays 80% of most contractor's price & holds back the 20% for various reasons.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:27 PM (sj3Ax)
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Yo!
Posted by: Yo! at December 14, 2015 05:27 PM (GwIKd)
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Is he doing that on Affirmative Action, then? Or Ethanol?
He will say anything that seems like it will get a response.
This morning I saw him questioning Cruz's appeal to Evangelicals.
"He's Cuban. I never think of Cubans as being really Evangelical", or words to that effect.
Not that he, Trump, is evangelical. It's just any random idea that crosses his brain pan gets a spark to see if it fires.
He will say anything that seems like it will get a response.
This morning I saw him questioning Cruz's appeal to Evangelicals.
"He's Cuban. I never think of Cubans as being really Evangelical", or words to that effect.
Not that he, Trump, is evangelical. It's just any random idea that crosses his brain pan gets a spark to see if it fires.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2015 05:28 PM (1xUj/)
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For Fenelon, the Okie-Dokie Stomp. (it's a cool music video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Xrxqt3ovE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Xrxqt3ovE
Posted by: just the punchline at December 14, 2015 05:28 PM (CPHkQ)
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It would almost be worth it, almost, to see Cruz lose but vivisect Hillary in a debate.
Of course, I'd rather see him win, but being mean to Hillary could cost him the election.
Of course, I'd rather see him win, but being mean to Hillary could cost him the election.
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:28 PM (LAe3v)
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Trump is able to get people talking.
So was common-sense conservative Jesse Ventura in Minnesota. And when it came time to actually, you know, govern, he brought in a bunch of democrat stiffs fir his administration. After he fulfilled his original plan of giving back the state surplus, he drifted for about 3-1/2 years.
So was common-sense conservative Jesse Ventura in Minnesota. And when it came time to actually, you know, govern, he brought in a bunch of democrat stiffs fir his administration. After he fulfilled his original plan of giving back the state surplus, he drifted for about 3-1/2 years.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2015 05:28 PM (Sffn6)
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Pep...i like that way of thinking.
Posted by: Clarney at December 14, 2015 05:29 PM (dgO4h)
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I would rather Trump go energetically and continually after Hillary and Obama's colossal errors.
I agree, and I'd rather Cruz went after Hillary, too. but for Trump its an ego thing and kneejerk competition mode. That's how you get ahead and stay ahead in business, by stomping twice as hard on the guy who pushes from behind you or below you. Its kind of a weakness, and an annoyance.
I agree, and I'd rather Cruz went after Hillary, too. but for Trump its an ego thing and kneejerk competition mode. That's how you get ahead and stay ahead in business, by stomping twice as hard on the guy who pushes from behind you or below you. Its kind of a weakness, and an annoyance.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:29 PM (39g3+)
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What did Scalia do? I heard he cited the Devil or something like that in one of his decisions. It'd be a hoot if he did.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 14, 2015 05:30 PM (dFi94)
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Trump is an equal opportunity flak dispenser.
Posted by: GnuBreed brings his shillelagh to this thread, just in case at December 14, 2015 05:30 PM (gyKtp)
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But the trouble is a salesman's job is full of puffery, exaggeration, and outright swindles.
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Yeah, but this is the first time the Republican front runner might actually swindle the left if elected...and that's something.
He might also swindle the right...but in the case of Juan McVain and Mitt Romneycare everyone knew they were going to sell us out.
The sad thing about the Trump phenomenon is that he is the first likely presidential candidate since 2004 that is even talking this way...
***
Yeah, but this is the first time the Republican front runner might actually swindle the left if elected...and that's something.
He might also swindle the right...but in the case of Juan McVain and Mitt Romneycare everyone knew they were going to sell us out.
The sad thing about the Trump phenomenon is that he is the first likely presidential candidate since 2004 that is even talking this way...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 05:30 PM (X7E8f)
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Look I like that trump shook things up and sunk Jeb ( with Jeb's help of course) but we all know that Trump is a loose cannon that only cares about Trump and THAT will ultimately sink him. And I hope Cruz is there to pick up the pieces. And the best way to sink trump is to ignore him... Attach him at your own risk, something the brain dead Establishment still does not get.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 05:30 PM (gf8BH)
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I read an article that Trump only pays 80% of most contractor's price & holds back the 20% for various reasons.
Perhaps that depends on a final inspection of the job and an approval. It makes sense to me, and I rather doubt DT would welch on a deal. If word got around, nobody'd ever do business with him knowing they'd get screwed.
Perhaps that depends on a final inspection of the job and an approval. It makes sense to me, and I rather doubt DT would welch on a deal. If word got around, nobody'd ever do business with him knowing they'd get screwed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2015 05:30 PM (LUgeY)
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Interesting. I always thought I'd see what Trump was really all about if Cruz, who's refrained from criticizing The Donald in public, pulled ahead of him.
Well, Trump only cares about Trump. I was never confused about that.
Me, I'm a Cruz man. In fact, I owe the guy a grand if he does pull out a win in Iowa.
Well, Trump only cares about Trump. I was never confused about that.
Me, I'm a Cruz man. In fact, I owe the guy a grand if he does pull out a win in Iowa.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (3rnjd)
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This morning I saw him questioning Cruz's appeal to Evangelicals.
"He's Cuban. I never think of Cubans as being really Evangelical", or words to that effect.
======================================
What the ??
"He's Cuban. I never think of Cubans as being really Evangelical", or words to that effect.
======================================
What the ??
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (dFi94)
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Yeah , Trump is a bomb thrower , that's good . He has a shitty arm ,though, and that's bad .
Nuke Laloosh , 14 strikeouts , and 14 walks . I'm afraid he's gonna throw a one hitter and lose 5- 2 .
That's my last tortured baseball analogy for the year .
Nuke Laloosh , 14 strikeouts , and 14 walks . I'm afraid he's gonna throw a one hitter and lose 5- 2 .
That's my last tortured baseball analogy for the year .
Posted by: awkward davies at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (mP1RE)
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It's just any random idea that crosses his brain pan gets a spark to see if it fires.
I think its 50% that and 50% advisers feeding him lines and ideas that he shapes into his own format and timing.
I think its 50% that and 50% advisers feeding him lines and ideas that he shapes into his own format and timing.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (39g3+)
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Doesn't matter. Trump's the only Republican who can overcome the MSM.
I like Ted Cruz a lot. But if you think he can withstand the full-steam MSM attacks he'll get if he's our nominee, you're not being honest with yourself.
I like Ted Cruz a lot. But if you think he can withstand the full-steam MSM attacks he'll get if he's our nominee, you're not being honest with yourself.
Posted by: fyscyl clyff at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (r4pNb)
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Trump's attack on Cruz was a mistake. It smacked too much of tired Leftist/MSM smears. His Scalia comments were lazy and equally borrowed from the Left. I don't suppose his core supporters care that much. As President, Trump will be all over the map with what he says and does, and will from certainly from time to time appease the Left and use their talking points. Whatever Cruz's faults, he will never do that.
The coming test will be how he responds to losing Iowa. Trump as a loser?
The coming test will be how he responds to losing Iowa. Trump as a loser?
Posted by: rrpjr at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (3myMJ)
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So a guy on death row died of... old age. Says something about our system. I understand reluctance and a desire to be very sure, but there comes a point you're just delaying for delay's sake.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:32 PM (39g3+)
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Many people have projected what they want to see onto Trump. That was done with Obama and look where that got us.
I like what Trump is doing to the GOPe, but I am suspicious as well.
Many people have projected what they want to see onto Trump. That was done with Obama and look where that got us.
I like what Trump is doing to the GOPe, but I am suspicious as well.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 14, 2015 05:32 PM (m3iiU)
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:32 PM (sj3Ax)
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This point was brought up on Outnumbered this morning. JEB has spent fifty million on political ads. Trump hasn't spent a dime. Just by being Trump he has sucked all the oxygen out of every other news story of the week. The media has this fatal attraction with him.
Posted by: Old Blue at December 14, 2015 05:33 PM (9iR5/)
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Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2015 05:26 PM (LUgeY)
I think Trump is a carny barker....he'll say anything to get you in the tent, where he then tries very hard to screw you.
The man is undeniably good at attracting attention to himself, and gauging the tone of the country. It's impressive. But scary too.
And the fvcked thing is....I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination.
I think Trump is a carny barker....he'll say anything to get you in the tent, where he then tries very hard to screw you.
The man is undeniably good at attracting attention to himself, and gauging the tone of the country. It's impressive. But scary too.
And the fvcked thing is....I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:33 PM (Zu3d9)
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Ace is a good guy, a smart guy, has a great blog, can't be trusted with money or children. He's a maniac with those things.
Posted by: DONALD TRUMP at December 14, 2015 05:33 PM (TJCSB)
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I copied link from Twitter from iPhone.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:33 PM (sj3Ax)
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Posted by: just the punchline at December 14, 2015 05:28 PM (CPHkQ)
Thanks; Very nice. I think that Clarence Gatemouth Brown probably pays the guitar much better than Donald Trump. ;^)
Thanks; Very nice. I think that Clarence Gatemouth Brown probably pays the guitar much better than Donald Trump. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (No/ki)
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Holding back 10 to 20% is standard in a lot of industries.
Upon completion the final payment is made.
Upon completion the final payment is made.
Posted by: Yo! at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (GwIKd)
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"That's my last tortured baseball analogy for the year"
Not to change sports on you, but with power and no control, every once in a while you score an own-goal. Looks like that moment has come for Mr. Trump.
Not to change sports on you, but with power and no control, every once in a while you score an own-goal. Looks like that moment has come for Mr. Trump.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (iIzG7)
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Trump's the only Republican who can overcome the MSM.
I like Ted Cruz a lot. But if you think he can withstand the
full-steam MSM attacks he'll get if he's our nominee, you're not being
honest with yourself.
Right. Because the MSM has been so kind to Cruz to date.
Look, it's clear that Trump has been walking on water for awhile now. But is that because the MSM can't lay a glove on him, or is it because they want him as the nom, figuring he's a sure loser? I'm going with b).
I like Ted Cruz a lot. But if you think he can withstand the
full-steam MSM attacks he'll get if he's our nominee, you're not being
honest with yourself.
Right. Because the MSM has been so kind to Cruz to date.
Look, it's clear that Trump has been walking on water for awhile now. But is that because the MSM can't lay a glove on him, or is it because they want him as the nom, figuring he's a sure loser? I'm going with b).
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (LAe3v)
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But if you think he [Cruz] can withstand the full-steam MSM attacks he'll get if he's our nominee, you're not being honest with yourself.
Posted by: fyscyl clyff at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (r4pNb)
I absolutely do think he can withstand them. I don't think there is another candidate who will able to not only withstand them but flip them back on the MSM.
Posted by: fyscyl clyff at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (r4pNb)
I absolutely do think he can withstand them. I don't think there is another candidate who will able to not only withstand them but flip them back on the MSM.
Posted by: rrpjr at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (s/yC1)
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So a guy on death row died of... old age. Says something about our system. I understand reluctance and a desire to be very sure, but there comes a point you're just delaying for delay's sake billable hours.
FIFY
FIFY
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2015 05:35 PM (LUgeY)
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As I tweeted earlier, this faux food fight between Trump & Cruz is adorable.
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 05:35 PM (cbfNE)
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I think even most conservatives who don't particularly like or support DT will vote for him over Hillary Clinton. There is no way I will vote for Hillary.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:35 PM (No/ki)
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If only there were a term for a circular firing squad only instead of guns everybody was using penises. Oh, wait a second...
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 05:35 PM (NeFrd)
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JEB has spent fifty million on political ads. Trump hasn't spent a dime.
I posted this, this morning. Its a comparison between polling position and advertising spending. Jeb is making ad companies rich but going nowhere. Trump is spending almost nothing and doing very well
http://tinyurl.com/oago53j
I posted this, this morning. Its a comparison between polling position and advertising spending. Jeb is making ad companies rich but going nowhere. Trump is spending almost nothing and doing very well
http://tinyurl.com/oago53j
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (39g3+)
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Rrpjr,
I think Cruz can too!
I think Cruz can too!
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (sj3Ax)
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Coffee is for closers. I'll take mine black.
Posted by: The Donald at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (nbGZj)
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Rush also took Trump to task for knocking Scalia's questions about the "mismatch" theory of Affirmative Action (quota) promotion.
Trump's wrong about that but I don't see what it matters. And I don't get the people who keep pushing Scalia's arguments as "mismatch" theory, as if anyone needed some sort of formal theory to understand something so simple and obvious that it hurts. ... "Mismatch theory" ... it's called common sense.
Trump's wrong about that but I don't see what it matters. And I don't get the people who keep pushing Scalia's arguments as "mismatch" theory, as if anyone needed some sort of formal theory to understand something so simple and obvious that it hurts. ... "Mismatch theory" ... it's called common sense.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (zc3Db)
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As I tweeted earlier, this faux food fight between Trump & Cruz is adorable.
Posted by: votermom
Someone say food?
Posted by: votermom
Someone say food?
Posted by: Chris Christie at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (/FOB4)
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And to clarify, I think Trump will carry through on seriously restricting immigration if elected.
I really have little idea how he would move on the other issues of the day as to this point his talking points have been inconsistent. Though I know he isn't an SJW/doctrinaire lefty like Clinton or Sanders.
Looking at the GOPe candidates though, I KNOW how they will come down on the various political issues in play right now - siding with the left even as they mouth conservative platitudes.
So, if Trump wins the nomination he gets my vote...though I would prefer Cruz or even Carson.
I really have little idea how he would move on the other issues of the day as to this point his talking points have been inconsistent. Though I know he isn't an SJW/doctrinaire lefty like Clinton or Sanders.
Looking at the GOPe candidates though, I KNOW how they will come down on the various political issues in play right now - siding with the left even as they mouth conservative platitudes.
So, if Trump wins the nomination he gets my vote...though I would prefer Cruz or even Carson.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (X7E8f)
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.I'll vote for him if he gets the nomination.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:33 PM (Zu3d9)
I'd vote for that dead raccoon on the side of the road before I'd vote for any democrat. But yeah if it came to trump vs any dem, Trump has my vote...but I doubt it will come to that
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:33 PM (Zu3d9)
I'd vote for that dead raccoon on the side of the road before I'd vote for any democrat. But yeah if it came to trump vs any dem, Trump has my vote...but I doubt it will come to that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (gf8BH)
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JEB has spent fifty million on political ads.
I heard one of his radio ads on the drive home tonight, and all I could think was "Dude, why are you bothering? It's over. Go get a life."
He truly is a dead man walking.
I heard one of his radio ads on the drive home tonight, and all I could think was "Dude, why are you bothering? It's over. Go get a life."
He truly is a dead man walking.
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (LAe3v)
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"Because the MSM has been so kind to Cruz to date."
I think Mr. Cruz long ago took Mr. Reagan's dictum that "the media is not your friend" to heart.
I think Mr. Cruz long ago took Mr. Reagan's dictum that "the media is not your friend" to heart.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (iIzG7)
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But if you think he [Cruz] can withstand the full-steam MSM attacks he'll get if he's our nominee, you're not being honest with yourself.
It's almost as if you think Cruz was never a national debate champion.
What gives you that idea?
It's almost as if you think Cruz was never a national debate champion.
What gives you that idea?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (LUgeY)
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term for a circular firing squad only instead of guns everybody was using penises. Oh, wait a second...
Can we listen to Imagine while we do it?
Can we listen to Imagine while we do it?
Posted by: The Media at December 14, 2015 05:36 PM (LYCUN)
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"So a guy on death row died of... old age. Says something about our system. I understand reluctance and a desire to be very sure, but there comes a point you're just delaying for delay's sake. -----Christopher Taylor"
Exactly. More narcissism on display. "I'm such a humanitarian I keep a murderer from being murdered by the state." Puke.
"So a guy on death row died of... old age. Says something about our system. I understand reluctance and a desire to be very sure, but there comes a point you're just delaying for delay's sake. -----Christopher Taylor"
Exactly. More narcissism on display. "I'm such a humanitarian I keep a murderer from being murdered by the state." Puke.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (+aCe4)
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"He's a nice guy. I mean, everything I say he agrees with me, no matter what I say," Trump began. "But with the ethanol, really, he's got to come a long way."
He added: "If Ted Cruz is against ethanol, how does he win in Iowa? Because that's very anti-Iowa."
Trump also appeared to take a veiled shot at Cruz's family background, suggesting Cruz might have trouble appealing to the state's evangelical voters. "I do like Ted Cruz, but not a lot of evangelicals come out of Cuba," he said of the country where Cruz's father, an evangelical preacher, was born.
http://huff.to/1lVJ8cJ
Sorry that's a HuffPo link, it's the first one I found.
But this includes the Problem of the Trump. "If he's against ethanol how can he win Iowa?". As if winning Iowa were all that matters.
Everyone pandering to ethanol because of Iowa is a rant which I periodically rant but won't right now.
The point is that Trump doesn't have a point. Ethanol is evil. Cruz is against it, but still is contending in Iowa because he actually believes in things.
Trump does not value anything other than Trump.
He added: "If Ted Cruz is against ethanol, how does he win in Iowa? Because that's very anti-Iowa."
Trump also appeared to take a veiled shot at Cruz's family background, suggesting Cruz might have trouble appealing to the state's evangelical voters. "I do like Ted Cruz, but not a lot of evangelicals come out of Cuba," he said of the country where Cruz's father, an evangelical preacher, was born.
http://huff.to/1lVJ8cJ
Sorry that's a HuffPo link, it's the first one I found.
But this includes the Problem of the Trump. "If he's against ethanol how can he win Iowa?". As if winning Iowa were all that matters.
Everyone pandering to ethanol because of Iowa is a rant which I periodically rant but won't right now.
The point is that Trump doesn't have a point. Ethanol is evil. Cruz is against it, but still is contending in Iowa because he actually believes in things.
Trump does not value anything other than Trump.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (1xUj/)
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Forget it, he's rolling
Posted by: Boon at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (k8tEg)
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Muldoon is there a code for circle jerk trauma ?
Posted by: awkward davies at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (mP1RE)
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (JOG+K)
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Sounds like people are having trouble getting used to a candidate who's every utterance has not been vetted, rewritten for punch and polled for maximum popularity.
That's understandable.
That's understandable.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (3myMJ)
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Posted by: rrpjr at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (s/yC1)
My guess is that if Trump loses Iowa Trump will say something stupid like "Iowa doesn't matter" or "The Evangelicals just don't like me" or "Who cares?" Trump lacks a filter on his mouth.
My guess is that if Trump loses Iowa Trump will say something stupid like "Iowa doesn't matter" or "The Evangelicals just don't like me" or "Who cares?" Trump lacks a filter on his mouth.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (No/ki)
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Not to change sports on you, but with power and no control, every once in a while you score an own-goal.
*****
I'm going to have to disqualify this comment on a technicality, as European feetsball is not really a sport. Or did you mean hockey?
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I'm going to have to disqualify this comment on a technicality, as European feetsball is not really a sport. Or did you mean hockey?
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (NeFrd)
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I'm officially renaming the Overton Window to Overused Window and shifting it out of the lexicon.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (cdYPW)
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Man, I wish Fred or Rick could have gone the distance, Qoheleth.
Good men, both of them. Not sure what cut them out, apart from the will of a inscrutable Providence.
Good men, both of them. Not sure what cut them out, apart from the will of a inscrutable Providence.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (3rnjd)
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If only there were a term for a circular firing squad only instead of guns everybody was using penises. Oh, wait a second...
The Romans called it the Circus Jerkus Maximus.
If only there were a term for a circular firing squad only instead of guns everybody was using penises. Oh, wait a second...
The Romans called it the Circus Jerkus Maximus.
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (LAe3v)
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Really, who the hell cares about ethanol subsidies and affirmative action as deal breakers when we have open borders, no real screening process, and are letting alot of future Dim voters in along with potential terrorists?
We won't have a country anymore if we don't close the borders and halt immigration from third world shitholes that are coming here for welfare or jihad.
We won't have a country anymore if we don't close the borders and halt immigration from third world shitholes that are coming here for welfare or jihad.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (2x3L+)
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Trump will end up being Ted Cruz's throw rag before this over.
Posted by: Garrett at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (He5Mi)
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I think that Clarence Gatemouth Brown probably pays the guitar much better than Donald Trump
Just a little.
Just a little.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (39g3+)
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That NRO article I linked also has bit that Trump supporters are least likely to vote.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (sj3Ax)
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And the difference between a salesman and a politician is .......??
Well at least you do get something from the salesman
Well at least you do get something from the salesman
Posted by: Righter at December 14, 2015 05:39 PM (tEGip)
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Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (JOG+K)
Nope; She s liar and crook/money launderer who left people to die and is only concerned with getting more money and power. It might burn anyway but I'm not going to help her.
Nope; She s liar and crook/money launderer who left people to die and is only concerned with getting more money and power. It might burn anyway but I'm not going to help her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:39 PM (No/ki)
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JEB has spent fifty million on political ads. Trump hasn't spent a dime.
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It is amazing how incompetent the GOPe is. But 2016 is the first presidential primary in which the base has really taken the fight to them.
I would have loved to see this kind of fight in 2012...
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It is amazing how incompetent the GOPe is. But 2016 is the first presidential primary in which the base has really taken the fight to them.
I would have loved to see this kind of fight in 2012...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 05:39 PM (X7E8f)
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" Or did you mean hockey?"
Absolutely I meant hockey. I'm no fan of Metric Football. I'm an American.
Absolutely I meant hockey. I'm no fan of Metric Football. I'm an American.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 05:40 PM (iIzG7)
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- "But is that because the MSM can't lay a glove on him, or is it because they want him as the nom, figuring he's a sure loser? I'm going with b)."
Watch his interviews. They constantly try to take Trump down. Trump talks over them... "excuse me, EXCUES ME" he insists as the "journalist' attempts to bury him. Then Trump goes on to say what he wants about how great he is.
Maybe Ted can learn that - but I think he's too polished. You need to be something of a jerk - like Trump.
Watch his interviews. They constantly try to take Trump down. Trump talks over them... "excuse me, EXCUES ME" he insists as the "journalist' attempts to bury him. Then Trump goes on to say what he wants about how great he is.
Maybe Ted can learn that - but I think he's too polished. You need to be something of a jerk - like Trump.
Posted by: fyscyl clyff at December 14, 2015 05:40 PM (r4pNb)
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I read an article that Trump only pays 80% of most contractor's price holds back the 20% for various reasons.
Perhaps that depends on a final inspection of the job and an
approval. It makes sense to me, and I rather doubt DT would welch on a
deal. If word got around, nobody'd ever do business with him knowing
they'd get screwed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
That's pretty common practice. Contractors final fee is withheld pending approval of the final punch list.
In any big (or small) contracting job, there are always details (punch list) to be completed at the end, and the contractor will ignore them at the end, if they've been Paid in Full.
That's just bidness.
Perhaps that depends on a final inspection of the job and an
approval. It makes sense to me, and I rather doubt DT would welch on a
deal. If word got around, nobody'd ever do business with him knowing
they'd get screwed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
That's pretty common practice. Contractors final fee is withheld pending approval of the final punch list.
In any big (or small) contracting job, there are always details (punch list) to be completed at the end, and the contractor will ignore them at the end, if they've been Paid in Full.
That's just bidness.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 05:40 PM (RFeQD)
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69 Muldoon is there a code for circle jerk trauma ?
Posted by: awkward davies
*****
I'm going to go with
ICD-10-CM Code S30.93XA - Unspecified superficial injury of penis
Posted by: awkward davies
*****
I'm going to go with
ICD-10-CM Code S30.93XA - Unspecified superficial injury of penis
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 05:40 PM (NeFrd)
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Tomorrow night the MSM will try to get Cruz to react to Trump and Cruz would be smart, and he is, to tell them to fuck off and do they have any serious questions for him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 05:40 PM (gf8BH)
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As I tweeted earlier, this faux food fight between Trump & Cruz is adorable.
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 05:35 PM (cbfNE)
It's approaches believability, but never gets there.
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 05:35 PM (cbfNE)
It's approaches believability, but never gets there.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (3myMJ)
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Thanks; Very nice. I think that Clarence Gatemouth Brown probably pays the guitar much better than Donald Trump. ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (No/ki)
He played a pretty hot fiddle, too. He has passed, now. Too bad. I got to meet him many years ago when he played Calgary. A real fine gentleman.
(removes sock)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (No/ki)
He played a pretty hot fiddle, too. He has passed, now. Too bad. I got to meet him many years ago when he played Calgary. A real fine gentleman.
(removes sock)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (CPHkQ)
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Trump is not an ideologue or a partisan. He just wants to win an election.
If ideology and/or partisanship is important to you then Trump is not your man.
If ideology and/or partisanship is important to you then Trump is not your man.
Posted by: Flaccid Member at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (5fSr7)
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It's almost as if you think Cruz was never a national debate champion.
It doesn't matter with the media.
They'll write the narrative, true or not (not), and repeat it on an endless loop.
It's almost as if you think Cruz was never a national debate champion.
It doesn't matter with the media.
They'll write the narrative, true or not (not), and repeat it on an endless loop.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (oVJmc)
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"The Romans called it the Circus Jerkus Maximus."
I can vouch for that. I learned it from my good friend, Biggus Dickus.
I can vouch for that. I learned it from my good friend, Biggus Dickus.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (iIzG7)
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Absolutely I meant hockey. I'm no fan of Metric Football. I'm an American.
Posted by: Qoheleth
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Excellent. We'll allow the analogy.
Posted by: Qoheleth
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Excellent. We'll allow the analogy.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (NeFrd)
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:42 PM (LAe3v)
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Posted by: fyscyl clyff at December 14, 2015 05:40 PM (r4pNb)
I think Cruz is not the sucker that Romney and mccain were. He knows that people will say anything and do anything to take him down.
But what concerns me is his inability to make snappy points. Reagan was a genius at that. Cruz....not so much.
I think Cruz is not the sucker that Romney and mccain were. He knows that people will say anything and do anything to take him down.
But what concerns me is his inability to make snappy points. Reagan was a genius at that. Cruz....not so much.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:42 PM (Zu3d9)
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I've already said I would vote for Trump's limo driver before I'd vote for Hillary.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 05:42 PM (cdYPW)
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Look I like that trump shook things up and sunk Jeb
It ain't over til Jeb and Rubio actually quit, or the hair aliens land and call the whole thing off.
It ain't over til Jeb and Rubio actually quit, or the hair aliens land and call the whole thing off.
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2015 05:42 PM (DL2i+)
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Trump did say that we are being led by "Stupid People" which got a lot of traction and I whole heartily agree.
So I am amused by his comment about Cruz calling McConnell a lying-liar pants and his temperament around his mostly useless colleagues.
So I am amused by his comment about Cruz calling McConnell a lying-liar pants and his temperament around his mostly useless colleagues.
Posted by: Cheri at December 14, 2015 05:42 PM (oiNtH)
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Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (NeFrd)
Circle Jerk?
That ain't no analogy.
Circle Jerk?
That ain't no analogy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:43 PM (Zu3d9)
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I'm simply biting my tongue. The Mollie Hemingway approach seems suitable right about here.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), T at December 14, 2015 05:43 PM (OQ9R7)
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I was really hoping Trump and Cruz would walk into the convention, combine their votes, flip the GOP the bird and be our next prez and vice prez.....but I'm guess that's not a thing
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 14, 2015 05:43 PM (uJK1E)
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If ideology and/or partisanship is important to you then Trump is not your man.
Posted by: Flaccid Member at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (5fSr7)
You probably won't make the best argument for your POV by using a- ummm-"handle" called flaccid member. LOL
Posted by: Flaccid Member at December 14, 2015 05:41 PM (5fSr7)
You probably won't make the best argument for your POV by using a- ummm-"handle" called flaccid member. LOL
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:43 PM (No/ki)
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But what concerns me is his inability to make snappy points. Reagan was a genius at that. Cruz....not so much.
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In an American where the president is intentionally letting people like the SB shooters in, I don't think you need to have have snappy come backs...I think you just need the guts to actually point out what Obama/Hillary are doing.
Remember that the one time Romney seemed to do well was when he went after Obama on Benghazi...
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In an American where the president is intentionally letting people like the SB shooters in, I don't think you need to have have snappy come backs...I think you just need the guts to actually point out what Obama/Hillary are doing.
Remember that the one time Romney seemed to do well was when he went after Obama on Benghazi...
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 05:44 PM (X7E8f)
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>>But the trouble is a salesman's job is full of puffery, exaggeration, and outright swindles. As they say in Glengarry Glen Ross; you say anything you need to say to get them to sign on the line that is dotted.
Whoa dude. Do I go around saying a bloggers job is full of pedantry and buggery?
No, a good sales guys job is not full of puffery, exaggeration and outright swindles. Those would be the bad sales guys.
And Glengarry Glen Ross is a movie.
Whoa dude. Do I go around saying a bloggers job is full of pedantry and buggery?
No, a good sales guys job is not full of puffery, exaggeration and outright swindles. Those would be the bad sales guys.
And Glengarry Glen Ross is a movie.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2015 05:44 PM (/tuJf)
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So I am amused by his comment about Cruz calling McConnell a lying-liar
pants and his temperament around his mostly useless colleagues.
Precisely. Exactly who out there do they think is outraged at his calling McConnell a liar? That was a fist-pumping moment for so many of us.
pants and his temperament around his mostly useless colleagues.
Precisely. Exactly who out there do they think is outraged at his calling McConnell a liar? That was a fist-pumping moment for so many of us.
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:44 PM (LAe3v)
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Trump is acting strategically, even his criticisms of other candidates inflame discussion and the media exposure does the rest which is to keep him front and center.
What did anyone expect?
What did anyone expect?
Posted by: Decaf at December 14, 2015 05:44 PM (BJL0M)
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I just think the vision of the Cruz-Hillary debate is so damn bonerific, pretty much nothing else about his candidacy would matter.
Mean Grannie would have to fake a grabber to get her ass out of it in less than 5 or 6 pieces.
Mean Grannie would have to fake a grabber to get her ass out of it in less than 5 or 6 pieces.
Posted by: Sort-of-Mad Max at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (DLu2s)
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (7v/r5)
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It might burn anyway but I'm not going to help her.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:39 PM (No/ki)
Oh, it will burn.
I would rather we just get it over with. The longer we wait the worse it will be so let's get it over with.
Hildabeast will accelerate the burn.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:39 PM (No/ki)
Oh, it will burn.
I would rather we just get it over with. The longer we wait the worse it will be so let's get it over with.
Hildabeast will accelerate the burn.
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (JOG+K)
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I think Scalia should run for President. Is there a rule against that?
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (dFi94)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:43 PM (No/ki)
Any chance you are going to grace us with your presence at the NY/NJ Moron Meet-up on Friday?
Any chance you are going to grace us with your presence at the NY/NJ Moron Meet-up on Friday?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (Zu3d9)
Posted by: Your Average Obama Voter at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (X7E8f)
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He's made snappy points in Iowa talking about that GOP has no war on condoms. I think he can make a snappy point when needed.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (No/ki)
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Tomorrow night the MSM will try to get Cruz to react to Trump and Cruz would be smart, and he is, to tell them to fuck off and do they have any serious questions for him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Exactly. Cruz did it beautifully in the last debate and I believe he is adept at knowing not only what to say but what not to say.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Exactly. Cruz did it beautifully in the last debate and I believe he is adept at knowing not only what to say but what not to say.
Posted by: Cheri at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (oiNtH)
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* waves Hi to Slapweasel *
What's the Mollie Hemmingway approach? I like her for what a prolife warrior she is. I might like her approach to this dilemna.
What's the Mollie Hemmingway approach? I like her for what a prolife warrior she is. I might like her approach to this dilemna.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (2x3L+)
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Whoa dude. Do I go around saying a bloggers job is full of pedantry and buggery?
You mean it isn't? Or do I have that all wrong?
You mean it isn't? Or do I have that all wrong?
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:46 PM (LAe3v)
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If only there were a term for a circular firing squad only instead of guns everybody was using penises. Oh, wait a second...
The Romans called it the Circus Jerkus Maximus.
Isn't that on the strip by Ceaser's Palace?
The Romans called it the Circus Jerkus Maximus.
Isn't that on the strip by Ceaser's Palace?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 05:46 PM (mndtc)
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I think Rush has been very clear about how he feels about Trump if you listen to him semi-regularly. I mean, you might have to read between the lines a little bit, but he's essentially said "I like having Trump in the race to show other R's and other 'outsiders' that you don't have to be afraid of the media and the establishment. That you don't have to follow conventional wisdom, and the consultants advice."
He's also come as close to endorsing Cruz as I've ever seen him come to endorsing any R in a primary.
So this doesn't surprise me at all. Now that Trump has served his purpose, I expect Rush to back off of Trump and promote Cruz.
He's also come as close to endorsing Cruz as I've ever seen him come to endorsing any R in a primary.
So this doesn't surprise me at all. Now that Trump has served his purpose, I expect Rush to back off of Trump and promote Cruz.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah at December 14, 2015 05:46 PM (AkOaV)
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Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:44 PM (LAe3v)
Well, I was a bit disappointed in Cruz.
I think he should have caned McConnell on the floor of the senate.
But that's just me.....
Well, I was a bit disappointed in Cruz.
I think he should have caned McConnell on the floor of the senate.
But that's just me.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:47 PM (Zu3d9)
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I noticed Facebook is all spazing out about Trump and Muslims and crap. My feeling is posting political crap on Facebook is like running a race in special Olympics ....it makes you look fucking retarded.
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 14, 2015 05:47 PM (uJK1E)
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My guess is that if Trump loses Iowa Trump will say
something stupid like "Iowa doesn't matter" or "The Evangelicals just
don't like me" or "Who cares?" Trump lacks a filter on his mouth.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Iowa doesn't matter. The whole caucus dealio is weird, if you get into how they do it.
Sure, it's "pure democracy", or some such explainable drivel. The Iowa caucus system makes for total retail campaigning, and gets candidates to "hone" their message, and pay attention to a state that is a non-sequitir in national politics.
I mean, presidential candidates are meeting people in their houses to close the deal. And New Hampshire; what another bizarre place. Who can forget Ed Muskie standing on the back of a flat bed truck, denouncing the Manchester Union Leader (a newspaper), and his campaign then imploded.
Well, you could forget if you weren't alive back then, or too small to be aware of how laugh-out-loud funny it was. And frankly, Ed Muskie was a decent man, pushed to making a fool out of himself by an editorial in that crappy little newspaper.
something stupid like "Iowa doesn't matter" or "The Evangelicals just
don't like me" or "Who cares?" Trump lacks a filter on his mouth.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Iowa doesn't matter. The whole caucus dealio is weird, if you get into how they do it.
Sure, it's "pure democracy", or some such explainable drivel. The Iowa caucus system makes for total retail campaigning, and gets candidates to "hone" their message, and pay attention to a state that is a non-sequitir in national politics.
I mean, presidential candidates are meeting people in their houses to close the deal. And New Hampshire; what another bizarre place. Who can forget Ed Muskie standing on the back of a flat bed truck, denouncing the Manchester Union Leader (a newspaper), and his campaign then imploded.
Well, you could forget if you weren't alive back then, or too small to be aware of how laugh-out-loud funny it was. And frankly, Ed Muskie was a decent man, pushed to making a fool out of himself by an editorial in that crappy little newspaper.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 05:47 PM (RFeQD)
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"It's almost as if you think Cruz was never a national debate champion."
If politicians debated, that would be more important.
I like Cruz and think he would do well in a joint appearance with Hillary. Unfortunately politicians don't debate these days.
If politicians debated, that would be more important.
I like Cruz and think he would do well in a joint appearance with Hillary. Unfortunately politicians don't debate these days.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 05:47 PM (3myMJ)
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I read an article that Trump only pays 80% of most contractor's price & holds back the 20% for various reasons.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:27 PM (sj3Ax)
That's not at all unusual. The final 20% gets paid once all issues are resolved and the buyer signs off on the deal.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:27 PM (sj3Ax)
That's not at all unusual. The final 20% gets paid once all issues are resolved and the buyer signs off on the deal.
Posted by: Blano at December 14, 2015 05:47 PM (C3E0x)
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The latest poll out of Iowa shows Trump back on top; looks like there was quite a bit of truth in Trump's complaint that the Des Moines Register hates him as their outlier poll showed Cruz in front there last week.
Posted by: GnuBreed brings his shillelagh to this thread, just in case at December 14, 2015 05:47 PM (gyKtp)
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Trump went with the classic 'I've got a lot of black friends' gambit. He really is a joke.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 05:48 PM (cdYPW)
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Test>> &&&&&
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), T at December 14, 2015 05:48 PM (OQ9R7)
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Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (Zu3d9)
I would really like, to but the week for Christmas is not a good time for me. Next year can you schedule it for a time that is not close to major Christian holy days?
I would really like, to but the week for Christmas is not a good time for me. Next year can you schedule it for a time that is not close to major Christian holy days?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:48 PM (No/ki)
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The thing is, despite all of Trumps failings (and there are many of them) if he is the nominee, I will vote for him because fundamentally, I am pretty sure he loves this country and believes in what it stands for - it has made him a very rich, successful man after all. Unlike Obama who seems to exude a almost visceral dislike for the American way in spite of the fact that he has also benefitted from opportunities that can only be found in this country.
Posted by: IC at December 14, 2015 05:48 PM (a0IVu)
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Ace: "I felt obligated to lie, because I figured you expected me to lie,
even though you didn't believe it... It's a relief to no longer have to
propagate this obvious, feeble lie. I know very few of you believe the
GOP has much intention of
repealing Obamacare, but, being a Republican, I have previously felt the
need to present The Official Party Position even knowing it was total
bullshit.
I've known it was a lie for a year, which is why I hate when it comes
up..."
Tell us more about how you hate getting the okie-doke.
even though you didn't believe it... It's a relief to no longer have to
propagate this obvious, feeble lie. I know very few of you believe the
GOP has much intention of
repealing Obamacare, but, being a Republican, I have previously felt the
need to present The Official Party Position even knowing it was total
bullshit.
I've known it was a lie for a year, which is why I hate when it comes
up..."
Tell us more about how you hate getting the okie-doke.
Posted by: chedolf at December 14, 2015 05:49 PM (ZtPHO)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:45 PM (No/ki)
I think his points reward those who listen.
Trump is jingoistic and cheerleaderish...which is smart. It's easy to catch his drift even if you barely registered the words.
I think his points reward those who listen.
Trump is jingoistic and cheerleaderish...which is smart. It's easy to catch his drift even if you barely registered the words.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:49 PM (Zu3d9)
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The number of evangelicals in Cuba has grown from roughly 70,000 to
more than 800,000 as of 2010, out of a population of 11 million, according
to the Rev. Marcial Hernandez, president of Cuba's Council of Churches.
(source: NPR)
more than 800,000 as of 2010, out of a population of 11 million, according
to the Rev. Marcial Hernandez, president of Cuba's Council of Churches.
(source: NPR)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 14, 2015 05:49 PM (dFi94)
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Meant week "before" Christmas.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:49 PM (No/ki)
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), T at December 14, 2015 05:49 PM (OQ9R7)
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Facebook is not for closers.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (RFeQD)
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I was really hoping Trump and Cruz would walk into
the convention, combine their votes, flip the GOP the bird and be our
next prez and vice prez.....but I'm guess that's not a thing
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 14, 2015 05:43 PM (uJK1E)
Wouldn't that play better if they at least make a show of battling one another for #1 position, before agreeing to kiss and make up at the convention?
the convention, combine their votes, flip the GOP the bird and be our
next prez and vice prez.....but I'm guess that's not a thing
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 14, 2015 05:43 PM (uJK1E)
Wouldn't that play better if they at least make a show of battling one another for #1 position, before agreeing to kiss and make up at the convention?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (CPHkQ)
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I like Ted Cruz a lot. But if you think he can withstand the full-steam MSM attacks he'll get if he's our nominee, you're not being honest with yourself.
Posted by: fyscyl clyff at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (r4pNb)
I absolutely think he can handle it. Not only that, but he's brilliant enough such that he can destroy their narratives without breaking a sweat.
He just needs to work on his delivery.
Posted by: fyscyl clyff at December 14, 2015 05:31 PM (r4pNb)
I absolutely think he can handle it. Not only that, but he's brilliant enough such that he can destroy their narratives without breaking a sweat.
He just needs to work on his delivery.
Posted by: Blano at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (C3E0x)
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I really need to watch the Glengarry movie. I'm so behind everyone else here with Moron movies.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (2x3L+)
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Trump gets all this free coverage.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (sj3Ax)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:48 PM (No/ki)
We try to have two each year, so maybe next spring?
We try to have two each year, so maybe next spring?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (Zu3d9)
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I really need to watch the Glengarry movie. I'm so behind everyone else here with Moron movies.
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Mamet is brilliant, and you'll get to see Alec Baldwin at his best as an actor (not being sarcastic)
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Mamet is brilliant, and you'll get to see Alec Baldwin at his best as an actor (not being sarcastic)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 05:51 PM (X7E8f)
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Thanks, GW; I know that the evangelical churches in Cuba are growing by a great deal. Not being a particularly religious man, I expect, Trump wouldn't know that, I suppose.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:51 PM (No/ki)
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Come on over, I'm only extra sweaty!
Posted by: Hillary! at December 14, 2015 05:51 PM (xwp8Y)
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Whoa dude. Do I go around saying a bloggers job is full of pedantry and buggery?
I thought that went without saying.
I have to say the idea of Cruz being VP and walking into the Senate as its president and tie breaking vote is a pretty cheerful one. Not that something great would come of it, but a lot of guys there have a big fat thumb in the eye coming to them.
I thought that went without saying.
I have to say the idea of Cruz being VP and walking into the Senate as its president and tie breaking vote is a pretty cheerful one. Not that something great would come of it, but a lot of guys there have a big fat thumb in the eye coming to them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:51 PM (39g3+)
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105 >> Whoa dude. Do I go around saying a bloggers job is full of pedantry and buggery?
Because that goes without sayin'.
Because that goes without sayin'.
Posted by: GnuBreed brings his shillelagh to this thread, just in case at December 14, 2015 05:51 PM (gyKtp)
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Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 14, 2015 05:49 PM
Hahaha. Excellent. You had that ready?
Hahaha. Excellent. You had that ready?
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 14, 2015 05:52 PM (7v/r5)
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Trump had/has one job (well, to one way of looking at it). To make mass illegal migration and associated lawlessness/social and economic damage politically radioactive - after first putting it on the table to begin with (think about that .... such a yuuuugee issue, politically one-sided, ignored/actively worsened by both parties).
As a side benefit, this would help sink Yeb and Rubio.
Trump (unsurprisingly) has been too much of a fruit fly in terms of attention span and themes, and even quality of effort. Even the "intro" effort on the issue, focusing on violent criminals, really wasn't the best way to do it.
Back when Perry and Walker seemed like contendahs, this wrecking ball mission seemed the best one could make of the Trump phenomenon. Maybe it still is - but now we're down to Cruz as really the only serious candidate who could be expected to have a chance of actually positively affecting the course of events in the ravaged, hollowed out former republic and collapsed civic culture we have.
Trump had/has one job (well, to one way of looking at it). To make mass illegal migration and associated lawlessness/social and economic damage politically radioactive - after first putting it on the table to begin with (think about that .... such a yuuuugee issue, politically one-sided, ignored/actively worsened by both parties).
As a side benefit, this would help sink Yeb and Rubio.
Trump (unsurprisingly) has been too much of a fruit fly in terms of attention span and themes, and even quality of effort. Even the "intro" effort on the issue, focusing on violent criminals, really wasn't the best way to do it.
Back when Perry and Walker seemed like contendahs, this wrecking ball mission seemed the best one could make of the Trump phenomenon. Maybe it still is - but now we're down to Cruz as really the only serious candidate who could be expected to have a chance of actually positively affecting the course of events in the ravaged, hollowed out former republic and collapsed civic culture we have.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2015 05:52 PM (QDnY+)
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>>I really need to watch the Glengarry movie. I'm so behind everyone else here with Moron movies.
Let me save you some time. There is a great scene with Alec Baldwin, no really, where he gives a blistering speech that those who aren't in sales think accurately represents what sales guys do.
The rest of the movie is just Willie Loman with land deals.
Let me save you some time. There is a great scene with Alec Baldwin, no really, where he gives a blistering speech that those who aren't in sales think accurately represents what sales guys do.
The rest of the movie is just Willie Loman with land deals.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2015 05:53 PM (/tuJf)
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I've been for Cruz from the get go. If he wins the nomination, I'd like him to make the following successive announcements:
1. Nikki Haley as VP.
2. Liz Cheney as SecState.
3. Some hard assed conservative lawyer for Justice.
4. Will serve only one term.
5. Has stationed his transition team in critical points at State and Justice.
6. And one week before his inauguration, that he'll actively investigate and prosecute any and all law breakers from the previous administration.
The number of Obama pardons and the mass political appointee exodus from State, Justice, the IRS, EPA, etc., should be fun to watch.
1. Nikki Haley as VP.
2. Liz Cheney as SecState.
3. Some hard assed conservative lawyer for Justice.
4. Will serve only one term.
5. Has stationed his transition team in critical points at State and Justice.
6. And one week before his inauguration, that he'll actively investigate and prosecute any and all law breakers from the previous administration.
The number of Obama pardons and the mass political appointee exodus from State, Justice, the IRS, EPA, etc., should be fun to watch.
Posted by: bkeyser at December 14, 2015 05:53 PM (l4B3N)
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Mamet is brilliant, and you'll get to see Alec Baldwin at his best as an actor (not being sarcastic)
Today's trivium: Baldwin won Best Supporting Actor for exactly that one scene.
He's not otherwise in the movie. The scene wasn't in the play. Mamet put it in the movie, Baldwin nailed it, and won all the marbles.
Today's trivium: Baldwin won Best Supporting Actor for exactly that one scene.
He's not otherwise in the movie. The scene wasn't in the play. Mamet put it in the movie, Baldwin nailed it, and won all the marbles.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2015 05:53 PM (1xUj/)
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I really need to watch the Glengarry movie. I'm so behind everyone else here with Moron movies.
Its Mamet, so everyone swears like a particularly filthy, angry, Bostonian sailor, but its well-written otherwise and well-acted.
Its Mamet, so everyone swears like a particularly filthy, angry, Bostonian sailor, but its well-written otherwise and well-acted.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:53 PM (39g3+)
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I have to say the idea of Cruz being VP and walking into the Senate as
its president and tie breaking vote is a pretty cheerful one.
He would do a pimp roll into the Senate, grab his crotch, and say "I gotcher tie vote right here". Awesome.
its president and tie breaking vote is a pretty cheerful one.
He would do a pimp roll into the Senate, grab his crotch, and say "I gotcher tie vote right here". Awesome.
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 05:54 PM (LAe3v)
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>>>>> Mamet is brilliant, and you'll get to see Alec Baldwin at his best as an actor (not being sarcastic)
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 05:51 PM (X7E8f)
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That movie get's referenced here so much behind Idiocracy, Blazing Saddles, and Animal House. I still haven't seen any of those. Hey, don't judge me!!!!
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 05:51 PM (X7E8f)
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That movie get's referenced here so much behind Idiocracy, Blazing Saddles, and Animal House. I still haven't seen any of those. Hey, don't judge me!!!!
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 05:54 PM (2x3L+)
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Look, it's clear that Trump has been walking on water for awhile now. But is that because the MSM can't lay a glove on him, or is it because they want him as the nom, figuring he's a sure loser? I'm going with b).
No, they just want ratings and he is a sure fire ratings winner.
No, they just want ratings and he is a sure fire ratings winner.
Posted by: Decaf at December 14, 2015 05:54 PM (BJL0M)
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2015 05:54 PM (DL2i+)
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"I'd like him to make the following successive announcements:"
7: Attorney General Trey Gowdy
8: Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton
7: Attorney General Trey Gowdy
8: Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 05:55 PM (iIzG7)
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How about May, CBD? That way Easter and Passover would both be over. :^)
Thanks for thinking of me. :^)
Thanks for thinking of me. :^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 05:55 PM (No/ki)
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Wouldn't that play better if they at least make a show of battling one another for #1 position, before agreeing to kiss and make up at the convention?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (CPHkQ)
Trump already telegraphed this last week. At a rally he said something like "everyone's got to go thru Trump to be President. Even Cruz, you'll see, he's gonna take a swing at me."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 05:50 PM (CPHkQ)
Trump already telegraphed this last week. At a rally he said something like "everyone's got to go thru Trump to be President. Even Cruz, you'll see, he's gonna take a swing at me."
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 05:55 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (Zu3d9)
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Whoa dude. Do I go around saying a bloggers job is full of pedantry and buggery?
*****
Wait a second. Ace is a foot doctor and an Orkin Man™?
That's so awesome!
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Wait a second. Ace is a foot doctor and an Orkin Man™?
That's so awesome!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (NeFrd)
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@156 Who is a good candidate for press sec?
Posted by: IC at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (a0IVu)
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42 This point was brought up on Outnumbered this morning. JEB has spent fifty million on political ads. Trump hasn't spent a dime.
Trump's presidential campaign may be the first one in history to make a profit.
Trump's presidential campaign may be the first one in history to make a profit.
Posted by: despair at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (VrdxH)
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So this doesn't surprise me at all. Now that Trump has served his purpose, I expect Rush to back off of Trump and promote Cruz.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah
You also have to "read between the lines" a little bit. Rush and Donald Trump know each other pretty well, and have for quite a few years.
I think that despite his sometimes bombastic demeanor in public, Rush likes Donald, because he is a real person, warts and all. When Rush lived in NY City years ago (before he moved to Florida), I think that Donald got Rush into his social circle at times. They were both sort of "outsiders" in NY City.
The newspapers in NY City always made fun of Donald, because he would say outrageous, but sometimes truthful, things. Trump was rich and successful (and at times outrageous, and he loved it), but was never a NY City insider, in terms of being accepted as being one of the real power-brokers in the City.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah
You also have to "read between the lines" a little bit. Rush and Donald Trump know each other pretty well, and have for quite a few years.
I think that despite his sometimes bombastic demeanor in public, Rush likes Donald, because he is a real person, warts and all. When Rush lived in NY City years ago (before he moved to Florida), I think that Donald got Rush into his social circle at times. They were both sort of "outsiders" in NY City.
The newspapers in NY City always made fun of Donald, because he would say outrageous, but sometimes truthful, things. Trump was rich and successful (and at times outrageous, and he loved it), but was never a NY City insider, in terms of being accepted as being one of the real power-brokers in the City.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (RFeQD)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (ftVQq)
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That movie get's referenced here so much behind Idiocracy, Blazing Saddles, and Animal House. I still haven't seen any of those. Hey, don't judge me!!!!
Come on over and have a seat on the couch, we'll watch them together. We don't have Glengarry here, but I'm sure we can pull it up on Netflix or something.
Come on over and have a seat on the couch, we'll watch them together. We don't have Glengarry here, but I'm sure we can pull it up on Netflix or something.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (39g3+)
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That movie get's referenced here so much behind Idiocracy, Blazing Saddles, and Animal House. I still haven't seen any of those. Hey, don't judge me!!!!
*plays OT pet peeve card*
Idiocracy is over-referenced. It's a one-joke movie that generated a couple of memes.
"Thank You for Smoking" is the most under-referenced, under-memed movie.
If you jamokes put me in charge it will be mandatory viewing and recommended meming.
*plays OT pet peeve card*
Idiocracy is over-referenced. It's a one-joke movie that generated a couple of memes.
"Thank You for Smoking" is the most under-referenced, under-memed movie.
If you jamokes put me in charge it will be mandatory viewing and recommended meming.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (1xUj/)
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Who is a good candidate for press sec?
Posted by: IC at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (a0IVu)
Me, how much does it pay?
Posted by: IC at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (a0IVu)
Me, how much does it pay?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 05:57 PM (gf8BH)
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Hahaha. Excellent. You had that ready?
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 14, 2015 05:52 PM (7v/r5)
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I try to stay mentally sharp. Then I come here and it all goes down the tubes.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 14, 2015 05:52 PM (7v/r5)
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I try to stay mentally sharp. Then I come here and it all goes down the tubes.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isaiah 9:6 at December 14, 2015 05:57 PM (dFi94)
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That movie get's referenced here so much behind Idiocracy, Blazing Saddles, and Animal House. I still haven't seen any of those. Hey, don't judge me!!!!
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 05:54 PM (2x3L+)
What planet are you from?
And I only sweat on days that end with a y.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 05:54 PM (2x3L+)
What planet are you from?
And I only sweat on days that end with a y.
Posted by: Hillary! at December 14, 2015 05:58 PM (xwp8Y)
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"...but now we're down to Cruz as really the only serious candidate who could be expected to have a chance of actually positively affecting the course of events..."
Maybe Cruz can, and maybe Trump can. Either is a gamble, but for different reasons. I don't see any of the rest having a shot at anything other than status quo maintenance.
Which is why a gamble is our best shot and really our only viable alternative.
Some people don't get that Trump speaks like Jesus, in parables.
Maybe Cruz can, and maybe Trump can. Either is a gamble, but for different reasons. I don't see any of the rest having a shot at anything other than status quo maintenance.
Which is why a gamble is our best shot and really our only viable alternative.
Some people don't get that Trump speaks like Jesus, in parables.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 05:58 PM (3myMJ)
Posted by: Kreplach at December 14, 2015 05:58 PM (pZrYc)
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156
"I'd like him to make the following successive announcements:"
7: Attorney General Trey Gowdy
8: Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton
I actually had John Bolton in there first, then took it out figuring more liberal heads would explode with a Cheney in there. Maybe she can be SecDef though.
And yes, Gowdy is who I was thinking of when but I drew a blank on the name.
"I'd like him to make the following successive announcements:"
7: Attorney General Trey Gowdy
8: Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton
I actually had John Bolton in there first, then took it out figuring more liberal heads would explode with a Cheney in there. Maybe she can be SecDef though.
And yes, Gowdy is who I was thinking of when but I drew a blank on the name.
Posted by: bkeyser at December 14, 2015 05:58 PM (l4B3N)
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Bkeyser,
Yes, but two terms for Cruz.
Yes, but two terms for Cruz.
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 05:58 PM (sj3Ax)
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Short form answer-
Even if Trump is lying his ass off and doesn't believe in anything he says, I still trust him more than the establishment GOP who has made an art form out of lying to get our votes then immediately fucking us.
A non-zero chance of getting what I want out of a Trump presidency beats the hell out of a Jeb presidency where we definitely get amnesty and a bunch of other policies we hate. The GOPe has poisoned the well THAT bad with regards to the base.
Even if Trump is lying his ass off and doesn't believe in anything he says, I still trust him more than the establishment GOP who has made an art form out of lying to get our votes then immediately fucking us.
A non-zero chance of getting what I want out of a Trump presidency beats the hell out of a Jeb presidency where we definitely get amnesty and a bunch of other policies we hate. The GOPe has poisoned the well THAT bad with regards to the base.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 14, 2015 05:58 PM (pREVk)
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I hate to say it because I hate strategic political moves as a matter of principle, but Carly would be the best choice as a VP candidate with Hillary as their candidate. That said , beyond the strategy I think Carly would be a fine VP and possible nominee in 2024 .
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 05:58 PM (cdYPW)
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If Cruz is a maniac for standing against the status quo, then we need a lot more maniacs.
Posted by: elaine at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (Y0Piu)
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Mel Gibson, drunk off his ass, for press secretary. Give them all the respect they so richly deserve. Its not like they'd treat the president better with someone else up there.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (39g3+)
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167 Who is a good candidate for press sec?
Posted by: IC at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (a0IVu)
Ivanka
Posted by: IC at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (a0IVu)
Ivanka
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (cbfNE)
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@141 Glengarry Glen Ross is tremendous.
But I think that Mamet's best movie may well be the often overlooked "Homicide" (with Joe Mantegna).
Unbelievable exposition of loyalty, and about choosing your tribe. And race. And interpreting according to what you want to see. Spy thriller elements. If you're Jewish there's a bonus track about Jewish American identity. And, Rebecca Pidgeon while she was hot.
But I think that Mamet's best movie may well be the often overlooked "Homicide" (with Joe Mantegna).
Unbelievable exposition of loyalty, and about choosing your tribe. And race. And interpreting according to what you want to see. Spy thriller elements. If you're Jewish there's a bonus track about Jewish American identity. And, Rebecca Pidgeon while she was hot.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant buying dried foods at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (k8tEg)
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A year ago I would have scoffed at the idea of Trump as the Republican nominee. Now I think he's got the best chance of beating Hillary.
Beating Hillary is Job #1. Once in office our new President needs to appoint good people and preside well. This means wheedling and cajoling and .... making deals, both foreign and domestic.
I like Cruz but he's a somewhat nerdish appellate lawyer. He has no demonstrated ability of managing others. He'll have a hard time being strong on Illegal Immigrants because of his personal history (unfair but he'll get demagogued if he does).
Trump is taking some air out of Cruz right now. That's politics. Cruz's position on abortion won't help him in the general and hasn't gotten much attention.
Trump will attack Hillary like no else can. Yesterday he blamed Hillary (and Obama) for causing hundreds of thousands of deaths. He's just warming up.
These attacks will cause millions of squishy Independents and Democrats to stay home in November 2016. Turnout is the key to winning 2016 given Hillary at the top of the Democrat ticket.
Beating Hillary is Job #1. Once in office our new President needs to appoint good people and preside well. This means wheedling and cajoling and .... making deals, both foreign and domestic.
I like Cruz but he's a somewhat nerdish appellate lawyer. He has no demonstrated ability of managing others. He'll have a hard time being strong on Illegal Immigrants because of his personal history (unfair but he'll get demagogued if he does).
Trump is taking some air out of Cruz right now. That's politics. Cruz's position on abortion won't help him in the general and hasn't gotten much attention.
Trump will attack Hillary like no else can. Yesterday he blamed Hillary (and Obama) for causing hundreds of thousands of deaths. He's just warming up.
These attacks will cause millions of squishy Independents and Democrats to stay home in November 2016. Turnout is the key to winning 2016 given Hillary at the top of the Democrat ticket.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (r1fLd)
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167 Who is a good candidate for press sec?
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Sarah Palin, just to watch the press corp sit an twitch in anger
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Sarah Palin, just to watch the press corp sit an twitch in anger
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (uJK1E)
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@147 rhomboid "Cruz s really the only serious candidate who could be expected to have a
chance of actually positively affecting the course of events in the
ravaged, hollowed out former republic and collapsed civic culture we
have."
Before Trump took the lead, Cruz pushed for a massive expansion of legal immigration (2x overall, 5x H1B visas). He would be a disaster.
chance of actually positively affecting the course of events in the
ravaged, hollowed out former republic and collapsed civic culture we
have."
Before Trump took the lead, Cruz pushed for a massive expansion of legal immigration (2x overall, 5x H1B visas). He would be a disaster.
Posted by: chedolf at December 14, 2015 06:00 PM (ZtPHO)
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I dont understand why so many here treat this primary election as a sort of Trump-Cruz run-off. No votes have been casted yet, no damage has been done. There is still time to take a look at other candidates!
Posted by: Begonia at December 14, 2015 06:00 PM (lpN+A)
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Idiocracy is over-referenced. It's a one-joke movie that generated a couple of memes.
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Yeah but it also kind of nailed the arc America is on.
Of course I'd argue that it has nothing to do with biological genetics and everything to do with cultural genetics.
When you wean out all the things that made western culture strong and resilient you end up with idocracy even if every child is the off spring of Feynmann and Hedy Lamarr
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Yeah but it also kind of nailed the arc America is on.
Of course I'd argue that it has nothing to do with biological genetics and everything to do with cultural genetics.
When you wean out all the things that made western culture strong and resilient you end up with idocracy even if every child is the off spring of Feynmann and Hedy Lamarr
Posted by: 18-1 at December 14, 2015 06:00 PM (X7E8f)
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I hate to say it because I hate strategic political moves as a matter of principle, but Carly would be the best choice as a VP candidate
And were I in charge of the GOPe, she'd have been my big push from the very start. Jeb? What moron thought he was the right call? Seriously... insane. And yes, if she didn't get the nom, she'd be my VP choice.
And were I in charge of the GOPe, she'd have been my big push from the very start. Jeb? What moron thought he was the right call? Seriously... insane. And yes, if she didn't get the nom, she'd be my VP choice.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 06:00 PM (39g3+)
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>>>>> Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (RFeQD)
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I think this is accurate. I stopped listening to Rush for a few years, but started up again occasionally. He has golfed with Trump in the last and has said that he has personal contact for Trump. He has always described him as a friend. Plus, they're both new money and get shunned bc of that
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I think this is accurate. I stopped listening to Rush for a few years, but started up again occasionally. He has golfed with Trump in the last and has said that he has personal contact for Trump. He has always described him as a friend. Plus, they're both new money and get shunned bc of that
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (2x3L+)
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52 As I tweeted earlier, this faux food fight between Trump & Cruz is adorable.
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i thought this too at first, but he gave them the money quote "not fit to be president" which makes Hill-dogs ads for her, assuming they end up on one ticket.
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i thought this too at first, but he gave them the money quote "not fit to be president" which makes Hill-dogs ads for her, assuming they end up on one ticket.
Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (bA+CL)
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"Thank You for Smoking" is the most under-referenced, under-memed movie.
If you jamokes put me in charge it will be mandatory viewing and recommended meming.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (1xUj/)
Great movie. It's got a few problems and cringe-worthy parts, but that's to be expected since it was written by that horse's ass. However, still a great movie and good fun.
If you jamokes put me in charge it will be mandatory viewing and recommended meming.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (1xUj/)
Great movie. It's got a few problems and cringe-worthy parts, but that's to be expected since it was written by that horse's ass. However, still a great movie and good fun.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (zc3Db)
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I read the articles to which we were referred. The idea that Trump as president can not make a speech about death penalty for cop killers because it is a states rights issue is ludicrous. The non sequiturs that followed were even more ludicrous.
It rates right up there with the idea that a defense of the country (restricting immigration) is Fascist Nazisim is equally ludicrous, but that is where the political debate has landed. Anyone contesting the liberal orthodoxy is now a racist enemy of the state who should be sent to the gulags. That's where we are now.
The liberals worked frantically to delegitimize George W's presidency and now with Trump the codependent punditry and those who enable the liberal orthodoxy have combined to destroy Trump.
As a voter, I have the choice of submitting to the liberal orthodoxy, or to fight back. The only person I see fighting back against the news media and their enablers in public office is Trump.
Trump calling Cruz a 'maniac' and Cruz sending the Flashdance - maniac link back doesn't bother me one way or another, but it sure has the punditry hyperventilating. I thought Flashdance was a good movie.
It rates right up there with the idea that a defense of the country (restricting immigration) is Fascist Nazisim is equally ludicrous, but that is where the political debate has landed. Anyone contesting the liberal orthodoxy is now a racist enemy of the state who should be sent to the gulags. That's where we are now.
The liberals worked frantically to delegitimize George W's presidency and now with Trump the codependent punditry and those who enable the liberal orthodoxy have combined to destroy Trump.
As a voter, I have the choice of submitting to the liberal orthodoxy, or to fight back. The only person I see fighting back against the news media and their enablers in public office is Trump.
Trump calling Cruz a 'maniac' and Cruz sending the Flashdance - maniac link back doesn't bother me one way or another, but it sure has the punditry hyperventilating. I thought Flashdance was a good movie.
Posted by: Ouija Jamma at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (6sTpM)
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@178, Heh, Votermom. It will be a packed press room filling with drooling male journalists. And the femi-nazis will shrieking like banshees. Might be good fun really.
Posted by: IC at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (a0IVu)
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173
Bkeyser,
Yes, but two terms for Cruz.
I know. I'd hate to waste a second term for him, but I also think it would remove any inkling to compromise with the other side. Not a lot more to fear if you're on the left than a Ted Cruz as president with no more elections to win.
Bkeyser,
Yes, but two terms for Cruz.
I know. I'd hate to waste a second term for him, but I also think it would remove any inkling to compromise with the other side. Not a lot more to fear if you're on the left than a Ted Cruz as president with no more elections to win.
Posted by: bkeyser at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (l4B3N)
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"115 Tomorrow night the MSM will try to get Cruz to react to Trump and Cruz would be smart, and he is, to tell them to fuck off and do they have any serious questions for him.
Posted by: Nevergiveup"
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Trump has the silver bullet for any attack from other candidates, all he has to do is ask "And what is your plan for illegals and jihadis?"
Posted by: Nevergiveup"
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Trump has the silver bullet for any attack from other candidates, all he has to do is ask "And what is your plan for illegals and jihadis?"
Posted by: Decaf at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (BJL0M)
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Still a Cruz guy, he's done fighting in the Senate than most.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (k0xxN)
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Unbelievable exposition of loyalty, and about choosing your tribe. And race.
That movie was too Jewy for me. I mean that affectionately but it was just too much Judaism for a non-Jew to really appreciate.
That movie was too Jewy for me. I mean that affectionately but it was just too much Judaism for a non-Jew to really appreciate.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 06:02 PM (iIzG7)
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No, I'm not on board with analogies between Trump and Jesus.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 06:02 PM (No/ki)
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BBcode is enabled? I put brackets around an i, and everything italicized.
Posted by: chedolf at December 14, 2015 06:02 PM (ZtPHO)
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He played a pretty hot fiddle, too. He has passed, now. Too bad. I got to meet him many years ago when he played Calgary. A real fine gentleman.
(removes sock)
I met him down here and have an autographed CD of Long Way Home.
His road band was tighter than a gnat's ass. The bass player, Harold Floyd is from my hometown of Mobile. They kicked ass.
(removes sock)
I met him down here and have an autographed CD of Long Way Home.
His road band was tighter than a gnat's ass. The bass player, Harold Floyd is from my hometown of Mobile. They kicked ass.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2015 06:02 PM (LUgeY)
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Ace seems to think Trump as President would be another Obama. eg Does whatever he feels like with executive orders.
Might be so.
My opinion is that Trump's present actions have nothing to do with how he would (rule? govern? tyrannize?).
Trump is doing things to make himself more likable to LIVs.
Trump is helping Cruz by making him more likable to LIVs.
Think Payton Manning, Tom Brady. He is elevating Cruz to his level in the eyes of LIVs.
Might be so.
My opinion is that Trump's present actions have nothing to do with how he would (rule? govern? tyrannize?).
Trump is doing things to make himself more likable to LIVs.
Trump is helping Cruz by making him more likable to LIVs.
Think Payton Manning, Tom Brady. He is elevating Cruz to his level in the eyes of LIVs.
Posted by: New Paradigm at December 14, 2015 06:02 PM (PGh+Q)
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Trump calling Cruz a 'maniac' and Cruz sending the Flashdance - maniac link back
Cruz did that and some people don't think he has a sense of humor?
Cruz did that and some people don't think he has a sense of humor?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 06:03 PM (No/ki)
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Ace seems to think Trump as President would be another Obama. eg Does whatever he feels like with executive orders.
Someone this morning said Trump is another Andrew Jackson and I think that's more true than not. He basically did the same thing.
Someone this morning said Trump is another Andrew Jackson and I think that's more true than not. He basically did the same thing.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 06:04 PM (39g3+)
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I dont understand why so many here treat this primary election as a sort of Trump-Cruz run-off. No votes have been casted yet, no damage has been done. There is still time to take a look at other candidates!
Posted by: Begonia at December 14, 2015 06:00 PM (lpN+A)
Stopped sucking Yeb's dick to stop by for a few, cupcake??
Posted by: Begonia at December 14, 2015 06:00 PM (lpN+A)
Stopped sucking Yeb's dick to stop by for a few, cupcake??
Posted by: Blano at December 14, 2015 06:04 PM (C3E0x)
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Barak has taken off the table so much that use to be congress or states only.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:05 PM (k0xxN)
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Mel Gibson, drunk off his ass, for press secretary. Give them all the respect they so richly deserve.
Reporter: "The recent terrorist bombing in Spain, does the administration have any comment?"
Press Secretary Gibson: "We all know it's the Jews. Hey, you're not Jewish are you, sugar tits?"
Yeah, I don't think that would work.
Reporter: "The recent terrorist bombing in Spain, does the administration have any comment?"
Press Secretary Gibson: "We all know it's the Jews. Hey, you're not Jewish are you, sugar tits?"
Yeah, I don't think that would work.
Posted by: free range jihadist at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (7v/r5)
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That movie was too Jewy for me. I mean that affectionately but it was just too much Judaism for a non-Jew to really appreciate.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (39g3+)
I found Homicide too contrived. It was in the fantasy realm. But Mamet's movies tend to be more expressions of dialogue poetics (since all Mamet dialogue is totally unbelievable and stylized to the point of absudity) than anything else. People either like to listen to that gibberish or not. The rest of the movie (any of them) tends to have little impact on the viewer, in general.
Mamet's okay but if you've seen one Mamet piece you've pretty much seen them all.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 06:01 PM (39g3+)
I found Homicide too contrived. It was in the fantasy realm. But Mamet's movies tend to be more expressions of dialogue poetics (since all Mamet dialogue is totally unbelievable and stylized to the point of absudity) than anything else. People either like to listen to that gibberish or not. The rest of the movie (any of them) tends to have little impact on the viewer, in general.
Mamet's okay but if you've seen one Mamet piece you've pretty much seen them all.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (zc3Db)
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Trump will attack Hillary like no else can.
Yesterday he blamed Hillary (and Obama) for causing hundreds of
thousands of deaths. He's just warming up.
These attacks will cause millions of squishy Independents and
Democrats to stay home in November 2016. Turnout is the key to winning
2016 given Hillary at the top of the Democrat ticket.
Posted by: Ignoramus
yes....THIS!
But it's a bumpy road from here to next April, when the primaries will have pretty much decided who is the nominee. A lot of things can yet happen.
This is fun. We should be enjoying the entertainment factor, and not really yelling at each other for being stupid. We're all different people with a different take on this.
Look, we're all pretty clueless about what is actually going to happen. There is no way to predict who will actually be a good President.
But I refuse to take the defeatist route and "Let it Burn!" by voting for Hillary, because things WILL GET WORSE and we'll never pull out of this tail spin. She's terrible person, and should not be trusted to take out the trash, let alone be President.
Criminy, look at the idiots in Hollyweird that are "all in" for Hillary. The average American has more sense.
Yesterday he blamed Hillary (and Obama) for causing hundreds of
thousands of deaths. He's just warming up.
These attacks will cause millions of squishy Independents and
Democrats to stay home in November 2016. Turnout is the key to winning
2016 given Hillary at the top of the Democrat ticket.
Posted by: Ignoramus
yes....THIS!
But it's a bumpy road from here to next April, when the primaries will have pretty much decided who is the nominee. A lot of things can yet happen.
This is fun. We should be enjoying the entertainment factor, and not really yelling at each other for being stupid. We're all different people with a different take on this.
Look, we're all pretty clueless about what is actually going to happen. There is no way to predict who will actually be a good President.
But I refuse to take the defeatist route and "Let it Burn!" by voting for Hillary, because things WILL GET WORSE and we'll never pull out of this tail spin. She's terrible person, and should not be trusted to take out the trash, let alone be President.
Criminy, look at the idiots in Hollyweird that are "all in" for Hillary. The average American has more sense.
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 06:02 PM (No/ki)
I knew I'd hook somebody with that one, but you are too easy, Fenelon! Hi, and Merry Christmas by the way.
I knew I'd hook somebody with that one, but you are too easy, Fenelon! Hi, and Merry Christmas by the way.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (3myMJ)
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Idiocracy is over-referenced. It's a one-joke movie that generated a couple of memes.
"Thank You for Smoking" is the most under-referenced, under-memed movie.
If you jamokes put me in charge it will be mandatory viewing and recommended meming.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Help, help, I'm being repressed!
"Thank You for Smoking" is the most under-referenced, under-memed movie.
If you jamokes put me in charge it will be mandatory viewing and recommended meming.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
Help, help, I'm being repressed!
Posted by: pep at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (LAe3v)
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"Yeah, I don't think that would work."
Yeah, but I'd live to see him finish every statement to a reporter with "But first..."
Yeah, but I'd live to see him finish every statement to a reporter with "But first..."
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (iIzG7)
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I find Ted has quite the Spence of humour
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (k0xxN)
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I thought Flashdance was a good movie.
She was a welder who danced. I am the son of a mailman, and Jesus never would have danced for money.
She was a welder who danced. I am the son of a mailman, and Jesus never would have danced for money.
Posted by: John Kasich at December 14, 2015 06:07 PM (Vc8BX)
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I used to be a Trump guy but no more. He's just punking us now.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:07 PM (6g0Bm)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 06:07 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 14, 2015 06:08 PM (1xUj/)
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>>>> Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 06:03
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His Princess Bride impression I found to be incredibly endearing. Cruz is being managed badly. He should show that side of him more often instead of letting himself be stereotyped as the angry conservative. Trump succeeds and wins over a lot of people by balancing seriousness with light hearted humor.
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His Princess Bride impression I found to be incredibly endearing. Cruz is being managed badly. He should show that side of him more often instead of letting himself be stereotyped as the angry conservative. Trump succeeds and wins over a lot of people by balancing seriousness with light hearted humor.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 06:08 PM (2x3L+)
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Criminy, look at the idiots in Hollyweird that are "all in" for Hillary. The average American has more sense.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (RFeQD)
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You greatly over estimate the average American.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (RFeQD)
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You greatly over estimate the average American.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:08 PM (6g0Bm)
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Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 06:06 PM (3myMJ)
O.k. You got me. ;^) With some of the fervency around her for Mr Trump it's hard to know what is serious and what is not.
Marry Christmas to you too.
O.k. You got me. ;^) With some of the fervency around her for Mr Trump it's hard to know what is serious and what is not.
Marry Christmas to you too.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 06:08 PM (No/ki)
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Rush has been subtly supporting Cruz this whole primary. He always compliments, rarely detracts. He makes it known that Cruz's positions are Rush's preferred positions. In contrast he killed off Ben Carson on FNS, when Carson blew it on foreign policy.
I think Cruz is showing the smarts to out negotiate Trump. He's building a good ground game, he's lining up endorsements, and he never attacks the other Republicans personally. He's trying, as much as anyone in a competition can, to obey Reagan's 11th commandment. And I think people have noticed. And all the right ones are scared.
I think Cruz is showing the smarts to out negotiate Trump. He's building a good ground game, he's lining up endorsements, and he never attacks the other Republicans personally. He's trying, as much as anyone in a competition can, to obey Reagan's 11th commandment. And I think people have noticed. And all the right ones are scared.
Posted by: Iblis at December 14, 2015 06:09 PM (9221z)
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I hate spell check, mostly.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:09 PM (k0xxN)
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Secretary of State Sarah Palin.
Cameras on Hillary when it is announced.
Cameras on Hillary when it is announced.
Posted by: New Paradigm at December 14, 2015 06:09 PM (PGh+Q)
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I'm a known jinx, so I'm still all in for Yeb / Kasicko
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 06:09 PM (cbfNE)
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>>His Princess Bride impression I found to be incredibly endearing. Cruz is being managed badly. He should show that side of him more often instead of letting himself be stereotyped as the angry conservative.
Apparently, he shows it all the time. I saw a clip on CNN today with Cruz doing the Princess Bride bit numerous times.
It's just that the msm like to portray Cruz as a scary, humorless droid.
Apparently, he shows it all the time. I saw a clip on CNN today with Cruz doing the Princess Bride bit numerous times.
It's just that the msm like to portray Cruz as a scary, humorless droid.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2015 06:09 PM (/tuJf)
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Cruz/Humperdinck 2016
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 06:10 PM (NeFrd)
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>>Tomorrow night the MSM will try to get Cruz to react to Trump and Cruz would be smart, and he is, to tell them to fuck off and do they have any serious questions for him.
Just last Friday on Morning Joe they were discussing what a good thing it would be if Cruz and Trump started fighting because this would pave the way for Rubio.
They were quite excited about the idea --- it was like watching a DNC meeting or something; sure as heck wasn't journalism. Anyway, I suspected then that the MSM would start baiting the candidates to attack one another, and....well, who knows who actually started things, but you can bet the MSM will be fanning the flames.
Just last Friday on Morning Joe they were discussing what a good thing it would be if Cruz and Trump started fighting because this would pave the way for Rubio.
They were quite excited about the idea --- it was like watching a DNC meeting or something; sure as heck wasn't journalism. Anyway, I suspected then that the MSM would start baiting the candidates to attack one another, and....well, who knows who actually started things, but you can bet the MSM will be fanning the flames.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2015 06:11 PM (NOIQH)
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@205 It is a little bit of inside baseball, Jew wise. But what stands out for me is the mood of the piece. I think the sound track was also important, but it built to a semi-paranoid, is-anything-what-it-appears-to-be mood to a degree that I can't think of in another film. But I'm open to suggestion.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant buying dried foods at December 14, 2015 06:11 PM (k8tEg)
Posted by: Carol at December 14, 2015 06:11 PM (sj3Ax)
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>>>>> I used to be a Trump guy but no more. He's just punking us now.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:07 -------
Who will you support next? Just curious.
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Who will you support next? Just curious.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 06:11 PM (2x3L+)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at December 14, 2015 06:12 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 06:12 PM (cbfNE)
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Corgis are needed upstairs. STAT!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 14, 2015 06:13 PM (NeFrd)
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"I expect Rush to back off of Trump and promote Cruz:"
Hahahahaha. I know - Trump is a Hillary plant. So why wouldnt he push Cruz? It's so obvious I know, so duplicitous is the man.
Hahahahaha. I know - Trump is a Hillary plant. So why wouldnt he push Cruz? It's so obvious I know, so duplicitous is the man.
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:13 PM (3Vph4)
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Sarah for SoS would bow lefties minds, and would chase quite a lot of them to Canada.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:13 PM (k0xxN)
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You greatly over estimate the average American.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
And you have no idea about that which you speak.
I've dealt with "average Americans" for my working life, which is now getting on 40 years. Some are thoughtful, some are not. My CEO is a very smart man at being a CEO, but he and his wife think Obama is great. His wife is a very smart women in her field, but their collective political judgement stinks.
I have to bite my tongue all the time around them in social situations.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
And you have no idea about that which you speak.
I've dealt with "average Americans" for my working life, which is now getting on 40 years. Some are thoughtful, some are not. My CEO is a very smart man at being a CEO, but he and his wife think Obama is great. His wife is a very smart women in her field, but their collective political judgement stinks.
I have to bite my tongue all the time around them in social situations.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 06:14 PM (RFeQD)
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"177 Mel Gibson, drunk off his ass, for press secretary. Give them all the respect they so richly deserve. Its not like they'd treat the president better with someone else up there.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (39g3+)"
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Mel just for shits and giggles.
Other people suggested Sarah Palin. She does have a journalism degree though not from Columbia so she would have lots of fun pointing that out to the WH press corps. She could open a conference by impersonating Tina Fey.
Ivanka, most likely.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 05:59 PM (39g3+)"
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Mel just for shits and giggles.
Other people suggested Sarah Palin. She does have a journalism degree though not from Columbia so she would have lots of fun pointing that out to the WH press corps. She could open a conference by impersonating Tina Fey.
Ivanka, most likely.
Posted by: Decaf at December 14, 2015 06:14 PM (BJL0M)
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Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 05:56 PM (RFeQD)
FWIW, he claims to not know Donald very well. They've run in to each other at Trumps golf courses (Trump came out to say hi a few times and to play golf with him a few times when he heard Rush was there, as I'm sure he does with all famous people).
May not be true, but I tend to believe Rush on this one.
FWIW, he claims to not know Donald very well. They've run in to each other at Trumps golf courses (Trump came out to say hi a few times and to play golf with him a few times when he heard Rush was there, as I'm sure he does with all famous people).
May not be true, but I tend to believe Rush on this one.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah at December 14, 2015 06:14 PM (AkOaV)
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chedolf, nah. Disaster? Well who knows, any one of them could be a disaster. I was assuming that Trump was out, Cruz was last man standing and GOP nominee.
And even though illegal mass migration really is the most important single issue (and it engages lots of other Top 10 ones), I'm looking at the whole package. Cruz is easily the best of those still in the race.
bkeyser, some modifications. Departure of political appointees (Sched. C, the "plum book") is normal, no "house cleaning" required. And will help, but only partially, at State, where the career bureaucracy is pretty bad (though not without exceptions). Which is why someone like Bolton is a better idea there. It will be partly a war between secretary and dept., but there's no way around it. In any case, if a non-idiotic foreign policy is originating (as it usually does) in a small group around the president, the rank and file at State aren't actually that important.
Haley as VP? Nah. I think her Confederate flag performance - yes, a bizarre chapter but pertinent to our ridiculous situation - was an F- for "leadership" capacity.
chedolf, nah. Disaster? Well who knows, any one of them could be a disaster. I was assuming that Trump was out, Cruz was last man standing and GOP nominee.
And even though illegal mass migration really is the most important single issue (and it engages lots of other Top 10 ones), I'm looking at the whole package. Cruz is easily the best of those still in the race.
bkeyser, some modifications. Departure of political appointees (Sched. C, the "plum book") is normal, no "house cleaning" required. And will help, but only partially, at State, where the career bureaucracy is pretty bad (though not without exceptions). Which is why someone like Bolton is a better idea there. It will be partly a war between secretary and dept., but there's no way around it. In any case, if a non-idiotic foreign policy is originating (as it usually does) in a small group around the president, the rank and file at State aren't actually that important.
Haley as VP? Nah. I think her Confederate flag performance - yes, a bizarre chapter but pertinent to our ridiculous situation - was an F- for "leadership" capacity.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2015 06:15 PM (QDnY+)
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His Princess Bride impression I found to be
incredibly endearing. Cruz is being managed badly. He should show that
side of him more often instead of letting himself be stereotyped as the
angry conservative. Trump succeeds and wins over a lot of people by
balancing seriousness with light hearted humor.
Posted by: L, Elle
That was a hoot. Really, really funny. You're right, more people need to see that side of Cruz.
incredibly endearing. Cruz is being managed badly. He should show that
side of him more often instead of letting himself be stereotyped as the
angry conservative. Trump succeeds and wins over a lot of people by
balancing seriousness with light hearted humor.
Posted by: L, Elle
That was a hoot. Really, really funny. You're right, more people need to see that side of Cruz.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 06:15 PM (RFeQD)
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Hahahahaha. I know - Trump is a Hillary plant. So why wouldnt he push Cruz? It's so obvious I know, so duplicitous is the man.
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:13 PM (3Vph4)
Well I don't think Rush thinks Trump is a Hillary plant. I personally don't think Trump is a Hillary plant, either.
And Rush never endorses in primaries, so the fact that he's talking up Cruz at all is kind of a departure from business as usual.
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:13 PM (3Vph4)
Well I don't think Rush thinks Trump is a Hillary plant. I personally don't think Trump is a Hillary plant, either.
And Rush never endorses in primaries, so the fact that he's talking up Cruz at all is kind of a departure from business as usual.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah at December 14, 2015 06:15 PM (AkOaV)
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Fenelon, my state has no primary so I'm just an observer. This is so far the most interesting and entertaining campaign season of the last 55 years.
But there is no excitement about which candidate I will vote for as they are all superior to Hillary.
But there is no excitement about which candidate I will vote for as they are all superior to Hillary.
Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 06:17 PM (3myMJ)
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Vote Hillary.
LET
IT
BURN
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (JOG+K)
1. Vote Hillary.
2. Let It Burn (TM)
3. ?????
4. WINNING!
Have I captured the logic of your position? Winning by losing, is that it? Can you proffer a single historical example in American political history where such an intriguing strategy has resulted in a positive outcome for those implementing it?
LET
IT
BURN
Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at December 14, 2015 05:37 PM (JOG+K)
1. Vote Hillary.
2. Let It Burn (TM)
3. ?????
4. WINNING!
Have I captured the logic of your position? Winning by losing, is that it? Can you proffer a single historical example in American political history where such an intriguing strategy has resulted in a positive outcome for those implementing it?
Posted by: troyriser at December 14, 2015 06:17 PM (Au69S)
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Hahahahaha. I know - Trump is a Hillary plant.
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:13 PM (3Vph4)
You'd have to be close to comatose to think that. Trump's ego is far too large to let him be a plant for anyone. That much should be painfully obvious to anyone.
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:13 PM (3Vph4)
You'd have to be close to comatose to think that. Trump's ego is far too large to let him be a plant for anyone. That much should be painfully obvious to anyone.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 06:18 PM (zc3Db)
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233 You greatly over estimate the average American.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
And you have no idea about that which you speak.
I've dealt with "average Americans" for my working life, which is now getting on 40 years. Some are thoughtful, some are not. My CEO is a very smart man at being a CEO, but he and his wife think Obama is great. His wife is a very smart women in her field, but their collective political judgement stinks.
I have to bite my tongue all the time around them in social situations.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 06:14 PM (RFeQD)
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You do realize you agree with me, yes?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
And you have no idea about that which you speak.
I've dealt with "average Americans" for my working life, which is now getting on 40 years. Some are thoughtful, some are not. My CEO is a very smart man at being a CEO, but he and his wife think Obama is great. His wife is a very smart women in her field, but their collective political judgement stinks.
I have to bite my tongue all the time around them in social situations.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative...not Spartacus at December 14, 2015 06:14 PM (RFeQD)
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You do realize you agree with me, yes?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:18 PM (6g0Bm)
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Posted by: Meremortal at December 14, 2015 06:17 PM (3myMJ)
Yes; It is very entertaining; That's true.
Yes; It is very entertaining; That's true.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 06:19 PM (No/ki)
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221 I'm a known jinx, so I'm still all in for Yeb / Kasicko
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 06:09 PM (cbfNE)
Hmmm, since last cycle I was in the Anyone But Mitt camp...
Anyone but Cruz!
*shit, I hope this works*
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 06:09 PM (cbfNE)
Hmmm, since last cycle I was in the Anyone But Mitt camp...
Anyone but Cruz!
*shit, I hope this works*
Posted by: GnuBreed brings his shillelagh to this thread, just in case at December 14, 2015 06:20 PM (gyKtp)
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My state is so far in the future I don't think I've ever voted in a presidential primary that counted.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:20 PM (k0xxN)
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:21 PM (3Vph4)
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227 >>>>> I used to be a Trump guy but no more. He's just punking us now.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:07 -------
Who will you support next? Just curious.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 06:11 PM (2x3L+)
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I like Cruz but I really don't think he can beat Hillary. He's been so beaten up by the media over the past 2-3 years, LIVs will never vote for him. Sad but true.
My state's primary is so late it won't make a difference. But if I do end up voting in it, I'm thinking Rubio. He commited the amnesty sin, yes. But I think he's the only one that can beat Hillary. Plus there are enough LIV Hispanics that will vote for him because his name is Marco. Again, it's sad that politics works like this, but we are where we are.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:07 -------
Who will you support next? Just curious.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 14, 2015 06:11 PM (2x3L+)
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I like Cruz but I really don't think he can beat Hillary. He's been so beaten up by the media over the past 2-3 years, LIVs will never vote for him. Sad but true.
My state's primary is so late it won't make a difference. But if I do end up voting in it, I'm thinking Rubio. He commited the amnesty sin, yes. But I think he's the only one that can beat Hillary. Plus there are enough LIV Hispanics that will vote for him because his name is Marco. Again, it's sad that politics works like this, but we are where we are.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:22 PM (6g0Bm)
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"Ace seems to think Trump as President would be another Obama. "
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If he gets a hostile Congress I really don't care what he does to them. They couldn't care less about the country.
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If he gets a hostile Congress I really don't care what he does to them. They couldn't care less about the country.
Posted by: Decaf at December 14, 2015 06:22 PM (BJL0M)
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That was /sarc
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:21 PM (3Vph4)
Sorry. It's been tough to tell these past years.
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 06:21 PM (3Vph4)
Sorry. It's been tough to tell these past years.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 06:25 PM (zc3Db)
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Cruz should put out his Princess Bride impersonation as a campaign ad, and that'll get the LIVs attention.
Posted by: Iblis at December 14, 2015 06:26 PM (9221z)
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Maniac. You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
Posted by: AE at December 14, 2015 06:27 PM (+ft6G)
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Historically this is a republican race to loose. That's why a good candidate is quite crucial. Independents are not going to vote for Hildabeast.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:27 PM (k0xxN)
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Someone compared Trump to Arnold and to Jesse Ventura. They are just as angry as we are, and so they are attractive. However, the pros in power run rings around them once they get in. Reagan had experience, and it showed.
Posted by: PJ at December 14, 2015 06:28 PM (cHuNI)
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There has been a new thread on BLM but I really couldn't care less about them.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:29 PM (k0xxN)
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The picture of Malik seriously looks like Linda Hamilton in her make up minus the green.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:31 PM (k0xxN)
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Ok I guess I'll head over to the BLM thread
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2015 06:33 PM (k0xxN)
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nah BLM thread is boring
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 06:35 PM (cbfNE)
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Folks, we've all been punked.
In a Fox interview yesterday, Trump said that Cruz was "a little bit of a maniac" in how he dealt with others in the Senate.
In the same interview, Trump said that Hilllary "killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity."
The first has gotten all the attention. The second was ignored.
In a Fox interview yesterday, Trump said that Cruz was "a little bit of a maniac" in how he dealt with others in the Senate.
In the same interview, Trump said that Hilllary "killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity."
The first has gotten all the attention. The second was ignored.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 14, 2015 06:39 PM (r1fLd)
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Trump was genius like in his self promotion and destruction of other candidates.....should have known when to change tactics when it was Cruz' turn in the barrel .
Trump did not change...same old stuff.
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Trump HATES to lose--anything. Trump will lose ground and quite possibly more--Limbaugh is no slouch when it comes to this stuff and he knew that Trump had truly jumped the shark on the attempted Cruz attack.
This will Strengthen CRUZ.
Trump was genius like in his self promotion and destruction of other candidates.....should have known when to change tactics when it was Cruz' turn in the barrel .
Trump did not change...same old stuff.
.
Trump HATES to lose--anything. Trump will lose ground and quite possibly more--Limbaugh is no slouch when it comes to this stuff and he knew that Trump had truly jumped the shark on the attempted Cruz attack.
This will Strengthen CRUZ.
Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at December 14, 2015 06:44 PM (3ZttN)
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To genuine conservatives paying attention, Cruz proved he was a sell-out when he voted for TPA. And when he joined Glenn Beck's teddy bear brigade at the border during last summer's surge. And when he says he wants to increase by 500% H1B visas. And when he sided with McConnell and refrained from endorsing any primary challengers against incumbents in '14. And when finding out that his biggest donor is his wife's bosses, Wall St's own, Goldman Sachs. Read this to understand all the many reasons that people have grown disillusioned and disenchanted with Cruz:
http://tinyurl.com/onc747o
http://tinyurl.com/onc747o
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at December 14, 2015 06:45 PM (xetep)
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Speaking of Average Americans....if you think how stupid the average American is...and then realize half of them are even more stupid than that!
Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at December 14, 2015 06:49 PM (uJK1E)
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Holding back 10 to 20% is standard in a lot of industries.
Upon completion the final payment is made.
Posted by: Yo! at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (GwIKd)
My understanding is that he often finds something "wrong " and refuses to pay up. More times than would seem probabl .
Upon completion the final payment is made.
Posted by: Yo! at December 14, 2015 05:34 PM (GwIKd)
My understanding is that he often finds something "wrong " and refuses to pay up. More times than would seem probabl .
Posted by: marinemom at December 14, 2015 06:52 PM (ep6ak)
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"LIVs will never vote for him [Cruz]"
That is a thing. Cruz mostly passes the purity test, but he comes no where close in enjoying the big tent support that Reagan rode to a land slide victory - which I see as Trump having.
@247 - But if I do end up voting in it, I'm thinking Rubio.
I'll tell you this truth: More people will sit out a Rubio election than they did for Romney.
It's Trump or Cruz. If neither, we'll sit home and watch it burn. The GOP better acquiescence to their base on this one or risk being inconsequential for decade/generation. I have and many like me have no problem not voting "the less of two evil."
If both the party's destination of choice is socailism/statism, and the only two options are slow and fast, I'm choosing fast to get to the end game and play it from there. Enough with the facades.
That is a thing. Cruz mostly passes the purity test, but he comes no where close in enjoying the big tent support that Reagan rode to a land slide victory - which I see as Trump having.
@247 - But if I do end up voting in it, I'm thinking Rubio.
I'll tell you this truth: More people will sit out a Rubio election than they did for Romney.
It's Trump or Cruz. If neither, we'll sit home and watch it burn. The GOP better acquiescence to their base on this one or risk being inconsequential for decade/generation. I have and many like me have no problem not voting "the less of two evil."
If both the party's destination of choice is socailism/statism, and the only two options are slow and fast, I'm choosing fast to get to the end game and play it from there. Enough with the facades.
Posted by: mossomo at December 14, 2015 07:01 PM (3Vph4)
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108 I just think the vision of the Cruz-Hillary debate is so damn bonerific, pretty much nothing else about his candidacy would matter.
Remember when we were convinced that Paul Ryan would wipe the floor with Joe Biden?
Remember when we were convinced that Paul Ryan would wipe the floor with Joe Biden?
Posted by: despair at December 14, 2015 07:07 PM (VrdxH)
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156 Mark Levin
Posted by: NCwoof at December 14, 2015 07:07 PM (aUQgu)
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The next President will be dealing with a vast established group of progressives who have power. The progressive group includes: the Supreme Court, the Congress, the press, the bureaucracy, almost all other world governments, and almost all US state governments. If the next President is at all conservative, 'it' will have to fight against all that. Do you want a champion debater or a bully to have the bully pulpit? Or would you prefer a total progressive? I believe that these are our only choices.
Posted by: Ceteris Paribus at December 14, 2015 07:09 PM (lQqJB)
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Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at December 14, 2015 06:22 PM (6g0Bm)
You went from Trump to Rubio?
Cruz hasn't been beaten up at all. He's been doing the beating. Have you seen his media interviews?
You went from Trump to Rubio?
Cruz hasn't been beaten up at all. He's been doing the beating. Have you seen his media interviews?
Posted by: rrpjr at December 14, 2015 07:15 PM (s/yC1)
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Levin is going off on ethanol ... but using all the lies.
40% of corn to ethanol ... no, 23% or so, because the protein part is saved as feed, and other reasons
terrible on engines ... no, vehicles are fine, small engines don't like it, Levin claims your car is knocking because of ethanol ...
it should be used for food ... for decades farmers paid to grow nothing ... they overproduce ... using excess for fuel better than paying to grow nothing.
hurts CO2 output more than helps ... probably, but who cares, more CO2 is good
huge subsidy ... no, mostly it is a mandate ... costs a little more, especially now that oil is down. But it is American made ... which does count.
Food production and sustaining rural America are rather vital parts of America, most subsidies are not ... like wind and solar, public unions, carbon credits, welfare for illegals, etc.
But I count on Levin but he is just spouting the propaganda on this. Fine, take out the "mandate", see what happens. But the crazy eyed rant with most facts wrong makes me sad ... Obama/Hillary make me sad, Trump might make me sad, Cruz winning makes me happy, but he probably loses to Hillary then I'm sad ...
lol country needs solid food supply and fuel ... national defense.
40% of corn to ethanol ... no, 23% or so, because the protein part is saved as feed, and other reasons
terrible on engines ... no, vehicles are fine, small engines don't like it, Levin claims your car is knocking because of ethanol ...
it should be used for food ... for decades farmers paid to grow nothing ... they overproduce ... using excess for fuel better than paying to grow nothing.
hurts CO2 output more than helps ... probably, but who cares, more CO2 is good
huge subsidy ... no, mostly it is a mandate ... costs a little more, especially now that oil is down. But it is American made ... which does count.
Food production and sustaining rural America are rather vital parts of America, most subsidies are not ... like wind and solar, public unions, carbon credits, welfare for illegals, etc.
But I count on Levin but he is just spouting the propaganda on this. Fine, take out the "mandate", see what happens. But the crazy eyed rant with most facts wrong makes me sad ... Obama/Hillary make me sad, Trump might make me sad, Cruz winning makes me happy, but he probably loses to Hillary then I'm sad ...
lol country needs solid food supply and fuel ... national defense.
Posted by: Illiniwek at December 14, 2015 07:20 PM (26Yu7)
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I'm officially renaming the Overton Window to Overused Window and shifting it out of the lexicon.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (cdYPW)
Who died and made you site lexicographer?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 05:38 PM (cdYPW)
Who died and made you site lexicographer?
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2015 07:22 PM (NPofj)
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Posted by: Illiniwek at December 14, 2015 07:20 PM (26Yu7)
In general, any product that consumers have to be forced to buy is not a good product.
In general, any product that consumers have to be forced to buy is not a good product.
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2015 07:24 PM (NPofj)
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So the anti-Trump argument has shifted from "he's too out there" to "he's not a conservative, he's not Cruz." Yeah, he's not a conservative. That's why he's a much better general election candidate than Rubio or Cruz. It's pretty obvious to me that Trump knows his audience. In the general he would talk much more about his business experience, his liberal social views, and his deal making. So if he can put together a coalition of suburban whites who don't want BLM meeting with the president every week and conservative whites who don't want amnesty, that seems like a big coalition.
Posted by: bjk at December 14, 2015 07:40 PM (x2rNW)
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@236 rhomboid And even though illegal mass migration really is the most important single issue...
No it's not. Mass immigration, period, is the most important issue. Replacing the American majority with an imported electorate that is indifferent or hostile to us is anti-conservative.
The 1965 Immigration Act revolutionized the way we select immigrants. It was sold explicitly on the basis that it wouldn't alter American demographics. That turned out to be a lie. Largely as a result of the '65 Act, America is projected to become a minority-white country in the early 2040s.
The left openly cheers this future. The respectable right answers, "whatever." At least one of the two is confused.
No it's not. Mass immigration, period, is the most important issue. Replacing the American majority with an imported electorate that is indifferent or hostile to us is anti-conservative.
The 1965 Immigration Act revolutionized the way we select immigrants. It was sold explicitly on the basis that it wouldn't alter American demographics. That turned out to be a lie. Largely as a result of the '65 Act, America is projected to become a minority-white country in the early 2040s.
The left openly cheers this future. The respectable right answers, "whatever." At least one of the two is confused.
Posted by: chedolf at December 14, 2015 07:44 PM (ZtPHO)
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Coming in late to this, but I thought of you morons and the talk-like Trump thread. So here's Rush:
All I did was raise a question about the way Trump went after Cruz. That's all I did. And I said it disappointed me a little bit, because it sounded like the same kind of criticism we would get from the establishment Republicans, which Trump is running against. So if you hear somebody say, if you're out there on social media, "Limbaugh turned on Trump," you now have it from the horse's mouth that I didn't. And if you've been listening you know that I didn't.
But so eager are they for somebody that they know has the credibility and the moral authority to do it, that they're hoping, they want the world to think that I did because whether I did or didn't, they think reporting it will equate it. (interruption) Do I think Trump will attack me now? (laughing) No, if he did (imitating Trump), "You know, I've always thought Limbaugh was overrated. Claiming he's got the biggest audience out there, but hell, nothing compared to what I had on TV. It's radio, nobody pays any attention, he's overrated, he's third-rate." Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. No, it would. He's not gonna do that. I didn't turn on anybody here!
All I did was raise a question about the way Trump went after Cruz. That's all I did. And I said it disappointed me a little bit, because it sounded like the same kind of criticism we would get from the establishment Republicans, which Trump is running against. So if you hear somebody say, if you're out there on social media, "Limbaugh turned on Trump," you now have it from the horse's mouth that I didn't. And if you've been listening you know that I didn't.
But so eager are they for somebody that they know has the credibility and the moral authority to do it, that they're hoping, they want the world to think that I did because whether I did or didn't, they think reporting it will equate it. (interruption) Do I think Trump will attack me now? (laughing) No, if he did (imitating Trump), "You know, I've always thought Limbaugh was overrated. Claiming he's got the biggest audience out there, but hell, nothing compared to what I had on TV. It's radio, nobody pays any attention, he's overrated, he's third-rate." Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me. No, it would. He's not gonna do that. I didn't turn on anybody here!
Posted by: Miley's Tongue at December 14, 2015 08:01 PM (NTbr4)
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So, Stage act Cruz can talk behind closed doors about Trump, but its outrageous for Trump to respond in public toward Cruz?
Cruz, is a fake, who loves to manipulate his voters.
http://tinyurl.com/TedCruzPSiOP
Cruz, is a fake, who loves to manipulate his voters.
http://tinyurl.com/TedCruzPSiOP
Posted by: Rodney C. Johnson at December 14, 2015 08:05 PM (XpFLm)
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@273
Interesting. I was going to call out Limbaugh, but I guess I'll pass. I should have known. Rush and Limbaugh have in common that little that is said about them is actually true.
As far as the "the okie-doke from Trump", you have to expect that from everybody. You have to go with their actions in the past, and Trump has been speaking out about his dissatisfaction with the US relations with foreigners for decades. He has always been an "America first, for America" kinf of guy. Beyond that, he's been blowing political-correctness to smithereens, which is an underrated HUGE deal, so I think he's more than proven his creds.
Interesting. I was going to call out Limbaugh, but I guess I'll pass. I should have known. Rush and Limbaugh have in common that little that is said about them is actually true.
As far as the "the okie-doke from Trump", you have to expect that from everybody. You have to go with their actions in the past, and Trump has been speaking out about his dissatisfaction with the US relations with foreigners for decades. He has always been an "America first, for America" kinf of guy. Beyond that, he's been blowing political-correctness to smithereens, which is an underrated HUGE deal, so I think he's more than proven his creds.
Posted by: Optimizer at December 14, 2015 08:16 PM (/q6+P)
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I just figure everyone on the right knows Trump will disappoint them. This is obvious because he doesn't really share their principles. I am not sure he has any principles at all that he could articulate or which are not subject to change. His ethics and beliefs seem to be very situational which is an essential quality for a self-promoter. But I think his supporters also believe Trump will deliver them a victory on at least one issue somewhere along the way rather than ALWAYS giving them the back of the hand like the establishment guys do. And he at least will listen to their concerns.
I prefer Cruz because you don't have to worry what his goals are. If he is willing to be as hated as he is by the establishment guys in the Senate then he is more likely to be fine with it once he is in the White House. And he has been stout in trying to move the country towards the right when everyone else is more concerned with making deals or getting a slice of the graft.
But they both have the only endorsement that matters in this race. They are feared and disliked by both the left and the Republican establishment. If we vote for them then the establishment loses. And that is the ONLY victory we can be sure of getting. We may or may not win the general election but that is secondary because it really doesn't matter whether we win if the establishment has not been chastened and power devolved back down to the people rather than the cronies. You can't take back a country if you can't even take back your own damn party first.
I prefer Cruz because you don't have to worry what his goals are. If he is willing to be as hated as he is by the establishment guys in the Senate then he is more likely to be fine with it once he is in the White House. And he has been stout in trying to move the country towards the right when everyone else is more concerned with making deals or getting a slice of the graft.
But they both have the only endorsement that matters in this race. They are feared and disliked by both the left and the Republican establishment. If we vote for them then the establishment loses. And that is the ONLY victory we can be sure of getting. We may or may not win the general election but that is secondary because it really doesn't matter whether we win if the establishment has not been chastened and power devolved back down to the people rather than the cronies. You can't take back a country if you can't even take back your own damn party first.
Posted by: Thatch at December 14, 2015 08:33 PM (pBZp4)
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You can't take back a country if you can't even take back your own damn party first.
Posted by: Thatch at December 14, 2015 08:33 PM (pBZp4)
Amen to that!
Posted by: Thatch at December 14, 2015 08:33 PM (pBZp4)
Amen to that!
Posted by: redbanzai at December 14, 2015 08:37 PM (NPofj)
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Trump has no rudder. He'd sell out all the bill of rights, starting with 5 or 6 he doesn't understand, The second would go quickly in the face of some "tragedy". Trump is a waste of time and a bad candidate. We'll probably elect him.
Posted by: Randy at December 14, 2015 09:23 PM (wxQ53)
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Trump's criticism of Scalia is particularly troubling. If he doesn't like Scalia, what does that say about the type of SC nominee he would appoint? Ginsberg?
Posted by: Bill at December 14, 2015 10:41 PM (OxTmY)
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The image of Donald Trump pumping anything is something I now need to wash out of my brain.
Posted by: dissent555 at December 14, 2015 11:58 PM (GdgAM)
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..."Trump is a salesman..." Yup. And as the saying goes about the good con salesman, "He could sell ice to an Eskimo." It's interesting to see the light bulbs finally going off on Trump, or as Rush called it "red flag." Trump has always been a bottom feeder. He is a useful puppet and a contrived "enemy" of the Left. He is a confessed Leftist (i refuse to call them liberal) on taxes, single payer, trade, and big government. Lie with dogs, don't be surprised when you get fleas. He is the "elite establishment". You can't tell the difference between him, the RINOs or the DINOs.
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