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Obama Lays Out Four Point Plan to Appear to Care About ISIS
In concluding remarks that ended just minutes ago, Obama laid out his plan:
1. Put on his "serious face." 2. Relentlessly reassure the American public that he cares about ISIS. Hey, you saw the serious face didn't you? 3. Commit additional resources to supplying the press with helpful stories and begin air-dropping political ammunition to Democratic allies. 4. Ride this huge, totally not fake global warming victory for all it's worth.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: O'Bumbles at December 14, 2015 12:54 PM (zllbf)
Posted by: johnd01 at December 14, 2015 12:54 PM (ukNFU)
Posted by: alexthechick - love and despair bitches at December 14, 2015 12:55 PM (mf5HN)
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Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 12:56 PM (/dSsq)
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Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2015 12:58 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 12:58 PM (/dSsq)
Over/under next time we see him he's expressing sympathy for American victims and wishing a Mele Kalikimaka to his island neighbors from the beach?
Posted by: ginaswo at December 14, 2015 12:58 PM (qxNrP)
Posted by: Lea at December 14, 2015 12:58 PM (vu5Xs)
Posted by: huerfano at December 14, 2015 12:58 PM (NSb9d)
O/T apparently the Independence Day sequel trailer dropped. It looks like Will Smith made another career mistake. Its nice they kill him off on the warof1996.com website.
Finally a live action movie where the alien invasion actually affected the world. Kinda like it did in Robotech/Macross.
Posted by: Iblis at December 14, 2015 12:59 PM (9221z)
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Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:00 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: too true at December 14, 2015 01:00 PM (jN+3o)
Posted by: no good deed at December 14, 2015 01:01 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 01:01 PM (CPHkQ)
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2015 01:02 PM (6xtq3)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:02 PM (493sH)
Posted by: donna
Mostly into the Mediterranean because, gol'darn, the lawyers just couldn't agree which targets were to be upscaled with metric-optimized maximum-minimized extra-curricular choice diversity.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM (9YDUz)
Posted by: E.T. at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM (yq4gk)
Posted by: Vince at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM (W0MMC)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM (nXxF1)
Why the chiefs of staff don't resign I don't know
Gen Jack Keane on fox
Posted by: ginaswo at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM (qxNrP)
Did He warn Us to cool it with the terrorism angle when it comes to muslims?
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM (/dSsq)
Also, he can say "but, and let me be clear, um, I kept us out of, um, war. Like I said I would."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah at December 14, 2015 01:04 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2015 01:04 PM (/tuJf)
Did he use the standard "my door is open for anyone who has good ideas to defeat ISIS?"
Posted by: no good deed at December 14, 2015 01:01 PM (GgxVX)
Cur: Killing them and breaking their things might just work to defeat them, I'm just sayin'.
JugEars: I said GOOD ideas. Like cluster bombs full of chocolate kisses. Everyone like chocolate!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 14, 2015 01:04 PM (gwpf+)
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 14, 2015 01:04 PM (nFdGS)
Posted by: Smartest man in the room at December 14, 2015 01:04 PM (5fXNd)
Posted by: navybrat at December 14, 2015 01:05 PM (Xodlv)
Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2015 01:05 PM (8HTq1)
Gen Jack Keane on fox
Posted by: ginaswo at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM
If they all quit now there won't be enough cushy post-retirement jobs in the defense industry to go around.
Posted by: huerfano at December 14, 2015 01:05 PM (NSb9d)
And to show his commitment to saving the planet, he'll be riding his bike to Hawaii.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:05 PM (493sH)
It seems that many of the foreign guests on that day of March 4, 1797 thought that by hook or crook by the end of the day George Washington would be dead. Transfers of power always worked that way.
Barack Obama makes you want to believe that those foreigners were right.
Posted by: William Fairfax at December 14, 2015 01:05 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 14, 2015 01:06 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:06 PM (Y8P5w)
Posted by: Vince at December 14, 2015 01:03 PM (W0MMC)
It is an interesting question.
I've also noticed the media is now defining ISIS as "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria" which is not what it stands for. It stands for the "Islamic State in Iraq and al Sham."
My guess about the ISIL thing? He's using the French colonial "Levant" instead of "al Sham" since, while they largely mean the same thing, al Sham goes from the Sinai to the bottom corner of Turkey, while the Levant does not include any of Turkey.
A tiny difference, but maybe the Turks got huffy about it?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah at December 14, 2015 01:06 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2015 01:06 PM (8HTq1)
Yeah, and any one of Us here and My 7 year old Grandson ,could do a better job then this ass-wipe...
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:06 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:07 PM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Smartest man in the room
Arguably the same thing.
ISIS = islamic state of iraq and al-Sham
al- Sham = levant
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2015 01:07 PM (9YDUz)
"ISIL" refers to "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant." The Levant is Israel and he recognizes that effort.
He's down with the cause.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:07 PM (nXxF1)
Plus, naming the conference city will provide plenty of opportunities to bribe and be bribed, so we'll have that going for us.
The AoSHQ Global Caliphate Conference nominee cities are Rome, Madrid, Vancouver, Sydney, and ....
Help me - where should the fifth nominee city be (and it has to be somewhere rich so we can pull in the loot - the Ewok needs a golden comb.)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Outrage Outlet Plan and Cater Your Holiday Atrocity! at December 14, 2015 01:07 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: John McCain, Card Carin Maverick at December 14, 2015 01:07 PM (AhyHb)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (Y8P5w)
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B-b-b-b-b-but...... if Global Warming is the root cause of Islamic Terrorism, shouldn't we be out of danger now????
Posted by: fixerupper at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Barry, Prince of the Links at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (NSb9d)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (AhyHb)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (IN7k+)
Serious question, Ace -
How can you put up with this? Every damned day, this dog-eating Indonesian and his circle of enablers and worshipers drag this country further down the tubes while we wait for the next attack, the next economic disaster or the next federal diktat designed to strip us of our rights. And yet, every day, here you are, deep in the thick of things, writing incisive posts.
I'm only a commenter, and just reading these things makes me want to take the gas pipe. How do you keep from saying, "fuck it all" and curling up into a fetal position for the rest of your life?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (X6fMO)
The JCS are hand selected Obama apologists with guaranteed sweet retirement pensions and virtually assured Board of Director's slots at major DoD contractors, and have let their personal security override their responsibility to their troops and to America!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2015 01:09 PM (ftVQq)
"ISIL" refers to "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant." The Levant is Israel and he recognizes that effort.
He's down with the cause.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:07 PM (nXxF1)
al Sham includes Israel, too.
The only difference I can find (looking at maps of the two spaces) is that the Levant did not include any part of Turkey, while al Sham included one border city in Turkey.
Otherwise, the two terms mean the same thing.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, nah at December 14, 2015 01:09 PM (AkOaV)
http://www.thelocal.no/20150902/norwegian-army-get-new-organic-underwear
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (CPHkQ)
Posted by: Yo! at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (nXxF1)
I heard he's dying it grey now, to look more serious.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (r9tFS)
In concluding remarks that ended just minutes ago, Obama laid out his plan:
1. Put on his "serious face."
2. Relentlessly reassure the American public that he cares about ISIS. Hey, you saw the serious face didn't you?
3. Commit additional resources to supplying the press with helpful stories and begin air-dropping political ammunition to Democratic allies.
4. Ride this huge, totally not fake global warming victory for all it's worth.
Posted by: Ace at 12:53 PM
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But
But
But
Was he clear?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (Y8P5w)
Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 14, 2015 01:11 PM (yfeci)
ISIS = islamic state of iraq and al-Sham
al- Sham = levant
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 14, 2015 01:07 PM (9YDUz)
Wow, you know the Germans always make good stuff!
Posted by: Vince Shlomi at December 14, 2015 01:11 PM (gwpf+)
Posted by: no good deed at December 14, 2015 01:12 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:12 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 14, 2015 01:12 PM (r9tFS)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:12 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 14, 2015 01:12 PM (AhyHb)
More precise? Isn't that the fucking problem that we seem to only want to take out 1-2 people instead of bombing the shit out of their fucking tanks.
Hell Syria's infrastructure is destroyed, anyone who wants to leave has. Just fucking carpet bomb the place.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at December 14, 2015 01:13 PM (tM4uk)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 14, 2015 01:13 PM (xq1UY)
There are more important things to do like jetting to Hawaii..
Aloha suckers...
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:13 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: John Kerry at December 14, 2015 01:13 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:13 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 14, 2015 01:11 PM (yfeci)
Anna, you have plenty of time before the last act (one which most of us are really afraid to see).
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2015 01:13 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (r9tFS)
Heh. Billy Jeff was notorious at that. He'd have multiple shades in a single day.
Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (vgIRn)
Very. He don't give shit and won't lift a finger to stop them. For the, like, 1000th time.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (nXxF1)
Posted by: Yo! at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (CPHkQ)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 14, 2015 01:08 PM (X6fMO)
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I don't, I pop fuk-itol pills like they're m&m's.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Hrothgar
I tried to tell you guys...
Posted by: Ike at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (AhyHb)
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 14, 2015 01:12 PM (AhyHb)
++++
He's about a hundred years too late.
Posted by: The KKK at December 14, 2015 01:15 PM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Peter Quinn at December 14, 2015 01:15 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil
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*tunes violin, plays melodic, soothing music*
Posted by: Nero at December 14, 2015 01:15 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at December 14, 2015 01:15 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: Ike at December 14, 2015 01:14 PM (FkBIv)
IIRC, you left us with a lot of really good advice, which our political rulers ignored completely!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2015 01:16 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 01:16 PM (No/ki)
JV Obama: Yesssssssss!
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:16 PM (Y8P5w)
Hawaii is nice this time of year, and nobody would expect it, just saying.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:16 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:16 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: nannyhag at December 14, 2015 01:17 PM (Queum)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 14, 2015 01:17 PM (39g3+)
http://bit.ly/1YbI3d9
"in an implausibly optimistic best-case scenario, Paris leaves 99% of the problem in place"
but hey, 1 trillion per year is chump change
Posted by: Feh at December 14, 2015 01:17 PM (/EZyN)
I mean, the guy hasn't had a new thought since at least 2007.
Frankly, I blame all those folks who thought John McCain was a great choice for Republican nominee. Same to whoever picked Bob Dole.
Posted by: Efrem Zimbalist Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:17 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at December 14, 2015 01:15 P
I'm on a limited budget. Which Rosetta Stone Program do you recommend. Unlike ace, i'm not learning French
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:17 PM (voOPb)
I tried to tell them but they didn't listen.
Posted by: Peter Quinn at December 14, 2015 01:15 PM (LYCUN)
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L O L - I'm glad you survived that Sarin though, thought for a minute they were writing you out of the show.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (MbrzC)
2. Relentlessly reassure the American public that he cares about ISIS. Hey, you saw the serious face didn't you?
3. Commit additional resources to supplying the press with helpful stories and begin air-dropping political ammunition to Democratic allies.
4. Ride this huge, totally not fake global warming victory for all it's worth.
Posted by: Ace at 12:53 PM
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5. Lock up that big meanie Trump that is insulting Muslims and Islam.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (Sffn6)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 01:10 PM (zc3Db)
Fool me once... could have been an excuse in 2008. But the second time around they voted for Barry because they either hate this country as much as Barry or they're so damn dumb they shouldn't be allow anywhere near a voting booth
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (493sH)
The libs in this country dropped a deuce, and the SCOAMF is the permanent Number Two in my book.
As for me, I am not a number - I am a free man.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (iIzG7)
According to local prosecutors the man shouted: "This is Daesh. This is a warning."
http://tinyurl.com/h5tz7xp
Boy, those IS guys sure hate being called Daesh. its such a total insult...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (39g3+)
Hawaii is nice this time of year, and nobody would expect it, just saying.>>>
And get some Imam to issue a Fatwa against golf courses.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (XtAzU)
Posted by: Satan of Cloggenwurst Vt at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (qSIlh)
So, the organization is Daesh, and its individual members are Daeshbags.
Got it.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 01:19 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Satan of Cloggenwurst Vt at December 14, 2015 01:19 PM (qSIlh)
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Grab a torrent of the older 3.xx line, I chose Russian.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:19 PM (MbrzC)
How about King Putt's sonorously delivered justificatory lines about how he has "carefully considered the intelligence reports" and "weighed all inputs from my military commanders"?
When what we now know, courtesy of retired DIA head Flynn, is that all such material is pointedly ignored if it runs counter to Obama's personal predilections.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 14, 2015 01:20 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2015 01:20 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:20 PM (/dSsq)
That means that the US will follow the rules and go bankrupt or ruin our economy further while China and India can do what they want.
Meantime the phony 3rd world "victims" of climate change are pocketing US taxpayers money.
You all better hope someone with some ballz takes the Presidency so that all that shite can be revoked.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:20 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: no good deed at December 14, 2015 01:20 PM (GgxVX)
The climate change Ponzi scheme is just another version.
I pray that we live through this last period of TFG.
Posted by: Cheri at December 14, 2015 01:20 PM (oiNtH)
https://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2015 01:20 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (No/ki)
Yeah, first time, you could have been caught up with the whole "hope and change" sophistry and the idea of voting for a negro so you look good to your friends. See, I'm all progressive and totally not bigoted!
But 2012? After his incompetence was on full display, Benghazi and the ghastly reaction to it, the cratered economy, Fast & Furious and on and on? Seriously? You're not worthy of the franchise.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Qoheleth
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Right.
*recalls this scene from Dr. Zhivago*
"I am the only free man on this train!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5vNbGLhZXw
Posted by: Nero at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at
Great show. I was totally on the edge of my couch last night
Posted by: Cheri at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (oiNtH)
Hell, not only that, they pressure the analysts to change it.
Posted by: no good deed at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (GgxVX)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (No/ki
He's so fucking dumb. We aren't giving into fear. We are PISSED OFF.
Employers look at social media but our gov't won't. I'm pissed.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM (voOPb)
Yeah, first time, you could have been caught up with the whole "hope and change" sophistry and the idea of voting for a negro so you look good to your friends. See, I'm all progressive and totally not bigoted!
I still get the willies when I think about all the cult stuff, especially the Children singing "Obamas gonna save Us" Gave Me the creeps....
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM (/dSsq)
http://tinyurl.com/j9oq5vj
Officers found a huge cache of 'extremely volatile' explosives, which police described to be of a style 'that could not be purchased for recreational use.' This suggests that the extensive supply was all homemade pipe bombs or other IEDs, created and collected with a specific plan in mind.
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Found in Mark Twain National Forest.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (493sH)
"I will pick So Damn Dumb for $1000, Alec."
The Answer Is: Safe Space
Question is: "What is a special snowflake?"
"No, sorry, Sherry, the answer we were looking for was Womyn's Studies major and we would've accepted Transgender Issues Studies major."
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:23 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM (fWAjv)
I am thinking the are going to hit St. Louis, Busch Stadium or the Arch or both.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM (/dSsq)
That would have been over the top in North Korea
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (493sH)
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He knows this, does not care, you must continue to slow boil, that's why he's trolling everyone with the giving into fear crap, it's not for you, it's him setting the bs talking points for his clan.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: no good deed at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (GgxVX)
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Found in Mark Twain National Forest.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM (fWAjv
Damn Right-Wing campers and their white privilege
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (voOPb)
If Obama's Timing holds true to form, someone gets hit by a terrorist attack tomorrow.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (Sffn6)
Ah yes. Me too. Sanity has left the building.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (nXxF1)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM
Didn't do a very good job of hiding it...
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at December 14, 2015 01:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (kXoT0)
So happy oldest kid moved away from there.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:25 PM (voOPb)
police described to be of a style 'that could not be purchased for
recreational use.'"
Okay, I have my ideas about the subject, but let me get the general consensus on this from the Horde: precisely how much and what type of explosives are appropriate for "recreational use"? Is there a generally-recognized Horde standard, and to what extent does that vary from a legal standard?
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 01:25 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 14, 2015 01:25 PM (RD7QR)
Barack Obama has found a huge supply of "WIN!" buttons from the Ford administration's failed "Whip Inflation Now!" campaign.
He is going to have them distributed calling them "Whip ISIS Now!"
If that doesn't stop ISIS, Obama still reserves the right to deploy the devastating "Just Say No" plan... but let's not get too crazy just yet.
Posted by: RobM1981 at December 14, 2015 01:25 PM (zurJC)
Great show. I was totally on the edge of my couch last night
Posted by: Cheri at December 14, 2015 01:21 PM (oiNtH)
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Agreed. ..and I thought this season was going to suck at first, I was wrong.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (nXxF1)
By the way, the mild-mannered Professor Lomborg -- who believes that anthropogenic global warming is real, just not as severe a problem as is claimed -- had his face on denunciatory "WANTED CLIMATE CRIMINAL" agitprop posters which the lefty greeniacs had plastered all over Paris before the big conference.
Same bunch of greeniacs who ran into the street memorial to commemorate the jihadi terror attacks, and stomped and kicked and trod underfoot the flowers and cards which ordinary Parisians had left for the victims.
Nice bunch of people with whom Obama and Kerry have formed common cause.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: rd
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And it snows in Hawaii.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (wKcQA)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (kXoT0)
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Anheiser Bush Brewery and Distributors. You American infidels are so pissy when you cant have your beer.
Posted by: Achmed The ACME Terrorist at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (8XRCm)
Lurch Kerry said, the climate deal will create jobs. Yep, I'm sure Solyndra is sending out job applications right now
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (493sH)
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (kSew+)
Posted by: barack obama as Augustus at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (jv7wA)
Being Persian, my father would occasionally name mideast countries in their native pronunciations, as a matter of instruction to my brother and me. He would never pronounce this shit in public this way because he understood what fucking country he was in and who his audience was. His language , manners, idiosyncrasies were all molded in total assimilation to American(read Texan) culture.
Whenever I hear obama say Paki-ston I think it's signaling to the other progtards that he's "In the know". Problem is, it's the only word he says like that. If your going to pronounce words like in their native country, then do it for all countries, right? Yes it's Paki-ston, but it's also Afganni-ston, E-ron(Iran), E-rok(Iraq), Dew-bay(Dubai), to name a few. Hell, he should be saying Nipon instead of Japan. Point is, is that this asshole is such a shallow intellectual fraud and it's ridiculously easy to spot.
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (UnJ7w)
We're gonna spread freedom
Obama's gonna change it
Obama's gonna lead 'em
We're gonna change it
And rearrange it
We're gonna change the world
Nothing creepy there.
And I REALLY wish I knew how that group of AA's chanting turned out.
'Because of Obama I can....'
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (fWAjv)
Ah yes. Me too. Sanity has left the building.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (nXxF
The main reason why i have nics here and twitter and my fb page has nothing political on it. If I don't trust my employer i sure as hell aint gonna trust the fucking govt.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (kXoT0)
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Can we get them to attack Ferguson instead?
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (8ZskC)
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There's also a story from a few days ago on the Gateway Pundit that shows an image of a Middle Eastern man in the forest near Fredricktown. Not sure where that is in relation to the Mark Twain forest but its... unsettling.
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (xq1UY)
Today referee Bill Kennedy came out as gay. A new SJW victim-hero.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:22 PM
Didn't do a very good job of hiding it...
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (/dSsq)
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Yeah... those are big fcking woods.
Posted by: fixerupper at December 14, 2015 01:28 PM (8XRCm)
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (kSew+
Non Christians can pray for SMOD.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:28 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:25 PM (voOPb)
I have a nephew there. Hiis wife actually worked at a federal government office in Ferguson. She bought her coffee everyday at that Quik Trip. Luckily, she transferred to a different office.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:28 PM (kXoT0)
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I'm uncertain, but chewing a pop-tart into the shape of a grenade would probably get you busted.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2015 01:28 PM (9mTYi)
Boy, those IS guys sure hate being called Daesh. its such a total insult...
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:18 PM (39g3+)
Um, your link says the teacher made up the story, and his (superficial) wounds were self-inflicted. Sounds like a case of stolen valor to me. Or some variant on that theme. Munchausen's syndrome?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 01:28 PM (CPHkQ)
The people who voted for obama in 2012 where mostly the ones who voted for him in 2008 and for the same reasons.
They didn't perceive his actions the same way you or I do/did.
Remember, we didn't have the facts on Benghazi or the IRS and Obamacare hadn't struck yet.
Now if this country's electorate votes in another weak socialist then I'm done. There's no help for a country with citizenry like that. Let them get what they want. Good and hard.
We will see in '16.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:28 PM (Xo1Rt)
(approximate quote)-
"And we want the ISIL leaders to know...you're next."
Next to what?
Probably "next" to tap the Princess' skinny yet flabby azz.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2015 01:29 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (MbrzC)
Why, what's left?
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:29 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:24 PM (/dSsq)
Nobody said they were smart.
Hey, maybe that's why TFG and his lackeys keep tying our hands. Give the muzzies a sporting chance.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:29 PM (fWAjv)
Why attack anywhere in St. Looters? It's in a trajectory of steep decline on its own.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 14, 2015 01:29 PM (noWW6)
As Bull Durham taught us, there's one word that will get you ejected faster than anything.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:29 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:29 PM (nXxF1)
Why sure he does! He's more or less allied to them, hoping he'll see Assad crucified before his term is up. After that happens, we'll see about any further actions.
Posted by: Bigby's Pattycakes at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (3ZtZW)
There's no being mean in football!!!
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Prez'nit Shit Midas
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I understand that C-130's will be making emergency air-drops over Syria.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (UnJ7w)
You forgot:
He talks like a faggot and his shit is retarded
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (voOPb)
I understand that C-130's will be making emergency air-drops over Syria.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (9mTYi
Oh that will work out so well.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: shibumi who is awaiting SMOD at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (9JJgN)
Thanks. Yeah, I saw that but couldn't remember if it was Mark Twain.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (fWAjv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:31 PM (FkBIv)
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That's actually why it annoys me the most, it's inconsistent. Bush had his speech'isms but they were pretty consistent.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:31 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Sharkman at December 14, 2015 01:31 PM (tpJ1g)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (UnJ7w)
Bite Your tongue? Words like that are mean..... according to Lindsey Grahmn... Miss Lindsey says some of Us are not being nice to obama!
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:31 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Dr. Lexus at December 14, 2015 01:32 PM (UnJ7w)
LOL.
I love how he really REALLY want ISIL to catch on but nobody uses it.
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:32 PM (fWAjv)
Today referee Bill Kennedy came out as gay. A new SJW victim-hero.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (2cS/G)
If someone yells that at Barry, will he finally come mincing out of the closet?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:32 PM (493sH)
You forgot Step Five: "Profit!"
Posted by: Sharkman at December 14, 2015 01:31 PM (tpJ1g)
That's because you peasants will never see any of that profit!
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2015 01:33 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Well, it's unlikely that ISIS will be able to arm the hashtags. That requires a password from OFA.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2015 01:33 PM (9mTYi)
On its face, just look at the flag: Its in terrible calligraphy. That's on purpose, in the same sense that Protestant churches were kept plain as possible. Its a reach back to the primitive era of Islam, a rejection of superfluity.
Posted by: Bigby's Pattycakes at December 14, 2015 01:33 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 14, 2015 01:33 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes now franchising Lulu Snackbars at December 14, 2015 01:29 PM (kXoT0)
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Kind of my point. Minimal damage, max press coverage, and I think it would be interesting how the police would be viewed during\after the event.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (FkBIv)
because I might have a friend that prays that way.
Posted by: Alphabaker at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (yevoM)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2015 01:30 PM (9mTYi)
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Hopefully of Club Gitmo guests, without parachutes.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (39g3+)
But like the Hydra, cut off one head and two grow back...
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (/dSsq)
Not only a weak liberal, but one with Wall Street ties. At a time when swing voters, and even a lot of voters on the right, were still pissed off about Wall Street helping cause the 2008 financial bust and then getting cozily bailed out at public expense.
Romney had nothing to do with any of that, but he as a longtime Wall Streeter and MBA businessman was never going to be able to escape being tarred with that brush.
Also, as others in the Horde have noted, 2010 was a referendum election on Obamacare, and Democrats got trounced. 2012 could have been a second referendum election on Obamacare. Instead the GOP ran the guy who had signed into law the state level prototype for Obamacare.
Romney then not only avoided attacking Obamacare, he has made clear in his post-2012 comments that he privately viewed it as a boon.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (UnJ7w)
If he spoke Austrian he could say Deutschland and Osterreich
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (493sH)
But Hillary is tied to this policy and exposed for 11 months.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (r1fLd)
What faggoty shit is that?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (fWAjv)
He's speaking to a certain demographic and it's working.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:36 PM (Xo1Rt)
What faggoty shit is that?
Who writes this shit?
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:37 PM (/dSsq)
What faggoty shit is that?
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (fWAjv)
Barky misread the teleprompter. It was supposed to be "terrier".
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 01:37 PM (zc3Db)
What faggoty shit is that?
Um, that's a MFA in creative writing from New York University, m'kay?
Posted by: Ben Rhodes at December 14, 2015 01:37 PM (LYCUN)
Something some speechwriter wrote for him and which was dutifully put on the teleprompter.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 01:37 PM (No/ki)
It's safe to do so now; they can play their part. They'll follow the dem candidate like ravenous dogs scenting rotten meat. It's their nature.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (2cS/G)
because I might have a friend that prays that way.
Posted by: Alphabaker at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (yevoM)
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I checked with the "big man", I have an in, he said and I quote "tell them there are exceptions to every one of my rules", so shouldn't be a problem.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (MbrzC)
I wonder if they meant those binary target explosives like Tannerite?
It does not explode until it is hit by a high velocity rifle bullet. Dumb shit rednecks like putting 20-50 pounds of it together and blowing up shit like refrigerators or old cars. About a third of the time the stuff shrapnels and it either hits the dumb shit or the camera recording the big boom.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (Sffn6)
He is nothing but trouble in D.C.
Catch a wave, dude! And ride it out to sea and stay there, please.
The way he feels about his actual, you know, citizens of his country, he should feel very much at home among the sharks.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Max Rockastansky at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (cdYPW)
Romney then not only avoided attacking Obamacare, he has made clear in his post-2012 comments that he privately viewed it as a boon.
Posted by: torquewrench
So clearly we should run the guy that wants full blown socialized medicine.
Amazing how the same people that think Romney was a closet liberal over RomneyCare act like Trump is the 2nd coming for wanting us to have UK-style Universal Healthcare where everyone with a pulse within the border gets everything free.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (KaEpw)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (UnJ7w)
I believe in Farsi it is pronounced "Obama boo gandoo."
Posted by: wooga at December 14, 2015 01:39 PM (fCrFR)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (fWAjv)
What he meant was, when you squeeze a faggot, this is the shit that comes out of his mouth.
Read between the lines, buddy.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:39 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (FkBIv)
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Must be thinking of
Brawndo - The Thrist Mutilator
It's got what plants crave! It's got electrolytes.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:39 PM (MbrzC)
"As a Christian, is it OK for me to pray that ISIS assassinates this ass?
because I might have a friend that prays that way.-------Alphabaker"
Do tell...
Posted by: Secret Service at December 14, 2015 01:39 PM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (KaEpw)
That's pure bullshit. Stop, already.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 01:40 PM (zc3Db)
It has electrolytes! Wait, no, that's Brawndo.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (39g3+)
fk I knew someone would beat me 2 it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:40 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:26 PM (UnJ7w)
You can usually tell by the little pinky finger he extends while drinking his Earl Gray.
And by the way he handles his umbrella.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:40 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 01:38 PM (KaEpw)
That's pure bullshit. Stop, already.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
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Trump has repeatedly doubled down on this.
Said it works "great" in Scotland at the GOP debate when asked about it.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (KaEpw)
And by the way he handles his umbrella.
And those friikin flapping arms as He goes down the stairs of AF1
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:34 PM (FkBIv)
It's a model of Kia. Faggy little car.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (CPHkQ)
Posted by: West at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (1Rgee)
And we will send the Grand Army of the Republic to vanquish them, along with the Prussians, the Dutch East India Company and Napoleonic Guard of the Third Republic.
Obama is so smart.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (KQTmr)
Posted by: wooga at December 14, 2015 01:39 PM (fCrFR)
Posted by: Dr. Lexus at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:37 PM (/dSsq)
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president camacho
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (MbrzC)
Pretty sure Capt Ahab says that in "In The Heart of The Sea," but can't say because I didn't see it, same as 330 million other people.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 14, 2015 01:42 PM (xq1UY)
And by the way he handles his umbrella.
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We are highly insulted by your implied comparison to this... Obama person.
Posted by: pretentious prissy fags everywhere at December 14, 2015 01:42 PM (9JJgN)
Posted by: Arson Wells at December 14, 2015 01:42 PM (UnJ7w)
What's bullshit? You mean Trump doesn't mean what he says?
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (cdYPW)
Today referee Bill Kennedy came out as gay. A new SJW victim-hero.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (2cS/G)
If someone yells that at Barry, will he finally come mincing out of the closet?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:32 PM (493sH)
Donald Trump to the white courtesy phone.
Donald Trump to the white courtesy phone.
Donald Trump to the white courtesy phone.
You have a phone call.
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (Sffn6)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (Y8P5w)
Today referee Bill Kennedy came out as gay. A new SJW victim-hero.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (2cS/G)
Are all Celtics players contractually obligated to be butt ugly?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (RD7QR)
Does he really think he won't be one of the first to be targeted by the ME asshats?
If I were Secret Service, I would consider getting out of the business. I would hate to be on any detail for Obama, or Hillary, or Bill, or any of the other mental midgets who think my guns and my protection detail are icky.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (LWu6U)
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Gol dam Cletus that blowed up real good!
Posted by: Bigby's Pattycakes at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Guy who extends his pinky finger while shooting people at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (UnJ7w)
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 01:44 PM (iIzG7)
Socialized medicine is popular. Trump is actually running on stopping a hispanic invasion and a muslim invasion. If he does that then he can fix Obamacare in his spare time.
Posted by: why not at December 14, 2015 01:44 PM (CzhL0)
Mogadishu.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 01:44 PM (mndtc)
Posted by: maddogg at December 14, 2015 01:44 PM (xWW96)
SAS sniper ganks 5 jihadis with only 3 shots:
The sniper shot the first jihadi in the chest, detonating his explosive device and killing him instantly, along with two ISIS guards sat in a nearby car.
The second terrorist was killed with a headshot, as he and the third man tried desperately to get back into the locked factory.
The third jihadi also died when his explosive vest was set off by a third and final well-aimed shot from the colour sergeant.
http://tinyurl.com/z5wmfho
Toasty!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: West
What you think our job is and what our job really is are NOT one and the same.
Posted by: MFM at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (326rv)
We are highly insulted by your implied comparison to this... Obama person.
Posted by: pretentious prissy fags everywhere at December 14, 2015 01:42 PM (9JJgN)
Sorry, guys. Didn't mean to insinuate that you are in any way associated with this limp dicked cockholster.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (nXxF1)
2) Tell us we are not who America is.
3) Sign some executive order about global warming or transgender bathrooms.
4) Go on vacation.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (VRc/p)
Then they would understand that their war and shit is hurting him
personally, and i am sure they would stop.
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I can help out with that!
Posted by: John Reach Across the Aisle I Don't have Stockholm Syndrome McCain at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (9JJgN)
But He speaks perdier than a 20 dollar whore!
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (/dSsq)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:43 PM (Y8P5w)
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Probably about the same no matter who gets elected, but I know the public will deserve every bit of it no matter what happens.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 01:44 PM (mndtc)
How very optimistic of you.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:46 PM (+YMhA)
Aw, no love for "Just muscular enough to not be mocked"??
Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2015 01:46 PM (NOIQH)
Said it works "great" in Scotland at the GOP debate when asked about it.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 01:41 PM (KaEpw)
He said that he's changed his mind about it here. Specifically. End of story. He was for it, once, and now is not. Stop saying that he's still for socialized medicine. Yes, it works well in other countries because we pay for the R+D and give other countries the latitude to draft off of our payments. Frankly, I couldn't care less what other countries choose for their setup.
Your pal Mittens never had anything but good things to say about MittensCare - here! - to the very end and then to this very day. It took Mittens months just to make the case about state versus federal and, even then he was less than enthusiastic about attacking BarkyCare.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 01:46 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2015 01:46 PM (DL2i+)
Which is why I could never do that job. Mine are for me and mine.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 01:46 PM (mndtc)
"Brawndo - The Thrist Mutilator
It's got what plants crave! It's got electrolytes.------ThisBeingMilt"
The plants told me they want water. Yes, like out of the toilet.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 14, 2015 01:46 PM (+aCe4)
You're busy talking while there's a glory hole not getting manned.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:46 PM (nXxF1)
I'm lodging a protest. Our bomb factory was a gun free zone.
Posted by: dead "activist" whose accessories go 'boom' at December 14, 2015 01:47 PM (326rv)
Replace ObamaCare with Universal Health Care
60 Minutes Interview
YouTube
http://tinyurl.com/h5ed2lt
Pelley: How do you fix it?
Trump: There's many different ways, by the way. Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, "No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private. But--"
Pelley: Universal health care.
Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.
Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably--
Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 01:47 PM (KaEpw)
Or Valerie, who oddly gets SS protective detail, too.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 14, 2015 01:47 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 14, 2015 01:48 PM (xq1UY)
Whatever comes after Assad will be worse than him. I have no faith in Islamic tribes fighting for democracy. The tribes hate one another. All they know and want is an iron fist over them.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:48 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:48 PM (Y8P5w)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:49 PM (39g3+)
Today referee Bill Kennedy came out as gay. A new SJW victim-hero.
Posted by: Lincolnf
So ejected for describing the guy. I guess if the ref was straight and he laid into him with * he still would have been thrown out.
*You f***ing Hetero. You're a f***ing Hetero, you pussylicker.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 01:49 PM (cdYPW)
From the after-action report:
Debriefing officer: "And at that point, you engaged the enemy, correct, Sniper?"
Sniper: "Engaged? I fcuckin' vaporized the enemy!... Sir."
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 01:50 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
And the Taxachoositz plan was already circling the bowl in 2012; rate increases, followed by rates frozen, followed by lawsuits, followed by waiting lists. Yet another reason why Romney was a poor choice in 2012. EVERYTHING obamacare is experiencing now was not merely forecast; it was preceded by other shitshows.
But to attack it was to attack himself.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 14, 2015 01:50 PM (326rv)
http://tinyurl.com/ztfrdzd
I figured this group would eventually eat their own, and so it begins. It is downright entertaining.
Seems like if you are going to be an agitating "organizer," you would want to be a bit, I don't know, ORGANIZED?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:50 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: mAggressor
Yes
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:50 PM (FkBIv)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 01:50 PM (zc3Db)
Toasty!
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 14, 2015 01:45 PM (kdS6q)
Five tangos with 3 rounds. That should get him a free play.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 01:50 PM (CPHkQ)
I'm lodging a protest. Our bomb factory was a gun free zone.
Still is. Gun was a long way off.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 01:51 PM (mndtc)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:51 PM (nXxF1)
Romney could have lied through his teeth about how RomneyCare was a mistake and ObamaCare a disaster and I think he still would have lost. Generic Republican was trouncing Obama two years earlier and there really wasn't anything but a slight bump up in the economy between 2010 and 2012. Heck, I believe independents went for Romney at a percentage that normally equates to victory.
I'm subscribed to the celebrity theory, where the LIV goes with whoever is most famous, regardless of how they reached that fame. It's why Trump has a very good chance of winning it all. And it helps that he's latched on to an issue that doesn't stop rewarding him. At the very least he's smashing Overton windows.
I find it amusing, though, that the media keeps trying to paint Trump as some sort of cartoonish villain, while giving him publicity that only increases his popularity. I suspected this could happen, and it has come to fruition. As usual, the media is to blame.
Posted by: Nutsy the Buzzard at December 14, 2015 01:51 PM (78OXS)
Posted by: Bitch McConnell at December 14, 2015 01:51 PM (laMCB)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 01:49 PM (cdYPW)
Make a note in the AoSHQ style guide, please. This one is a keeper.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:51 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:48 PM (Y8P5w)
1. GOP collapses after Hillary wins next year.
2. RINOs become Dems. Dems take permanent majority of both houses.
3. Remaining conservatives form a new party which will always be in the minority and thus will be ineffective.
4. Permanent leftist rule ensues but nobody notices because pot is free and heroin is legal and cheap.
5. Profit!
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:48 PM (Y8P5w
actually we are DOOMED.
Even if the GOPe turned conservative over night. The FSA has tipped the scales.
Oh we might get a SCOTUS appointment or 2. But the end is coming. Its not If but When
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Cheri at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (oiNtH)
"How very optimistic of you.----tcn in AK"
Ya think I'm spending a few grandon guns and ammo because I see an upswing in our future?
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (uhftQ)
But like the Hydra, cut off one head and two grow back...
Posted by: donna at December 14, 2015 01:35 PM (/dSsq)
Or they get released from GITMO
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (493sH)
Bill Kennedy, "You faggot!, You're a f***ing faggot, you cocksucker!".
Today referee Bill Kennedy came out as gay. A new SJW victim-hero.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2015 01:27 PM (2cS/G)
So the truth isn't a total defense after all.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (oKE6c)
When Erdogan ordered the shooting down of that Russian Sukhoi, among the stated rationales for it was "protection" of Ankara's Turkmen friends on the other side of the border in Syria.
Putin said coldly that they would just see about that.
Up until that point, the only Turkmen who were getting bombed by the Russians were ones who were so proximal to known IS positions that it was clear they were collaborating, or at least doing business, with IS.
Now just being a Turkman will merit a Russkie bomb run. A simple enough lesson and one that will resonate in Middle Eastern strong-horse cultures. Don't be an ally of Moscow's enemy. It's dangerous to do so.
Posted by: torquewrench at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (noWW6)
It's funny how differently Germans will speak German in various parts of Germany.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (nXxF1)
Ah. That must be the "fish movie" my wife wanted us to go see over the weekend. I declined. Her second suggestion was "Trumbo" so we stayed home.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: donna
Dynamic Inaction
This is a very good two word summary of his plan!
Posted by: rd at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (Sffn6)
That said, there's no way pragmatically to get the Federal government out of healthcare. We can start with reforms that have already been put forth including tort reform, selling insurance across state lines, etc.
It's important to not provide coverage to illegals. Not to be hard hearted, but it feeds a vicious adverse cycle.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (xq1UY)
Shawn King, aka white guy with a tiny moustache, passing for black
Posted by: tcn
I think I speak for everyone when I say I was not expecting that next word to be "moustache".....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (kdS6q)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (uhftQ)
Hell, honey, I moved back to AK to get away from this ugliness. I prefer my muzzie aggressors frozen solid.
And if that doesn't work, there's always the shotgun.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: mAggressor at December 14, 2015 01:54 PM (Y8P5w)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (kdS6q)
Well, he is already having a rotten day. Why pile on?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:54 PM (+YMhA)
3.5 By forming a conservative permanent minority party Conservatives have outed themselves as Enemies of the State and are disappeared in order to protect the Republic.
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4.5 Democrats party down hard.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Let the Outrage Outlet Plan and Cater Your Holiday Atrocity! at December 14, 2015 01:54 PM (hLRSq)
Definition: hoping for the best, planning for the worst.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:54 PM (nXxF1)
Top 2 Alternative Artsy Faux-Profound Phrases to Use in Place of
"As we squeeze its heart, we'll make it harder for ISIL to pump its terror.":
2) We shall burn ISIL's Meringue of Violence thus ruining their Terror Pie.
1) As the Mole Rat shakes it's pubeless yet massive balls to warn off invading aggressors, so shall we wave the Flag of Salty, Vinegary Freedom upon ISIL's face.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2015 01:54 PM (0cMkb)
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Been saying that since all this fun kicked off.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:55 PM (MbrzC)
So what we're stuck with is trying to make it fairer and cheaper by spreading the cost and making policies looser and able to be purchased across state lines. And other mods. But State run health care isn't going away unless the entire edifice of government collapses. And that may happen.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:55 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:56 PM (nXxF1)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 01:47 PM (KaEpw)
And how, pray tell, is that different from the situation now? Hospitals already treat indigent patients, and ultimately, taxpayers wind up footing the bill, either through tax payments, or by higher rates on their purchased insurance.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 01:56 PM (CPHkQ)
Peace be upon Alahmode
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 14, 2015 01:56 PM (XtAzU)
This one will have more range and more stopping power.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:56 PM (Xo1Rt)
8500 air strikes to date. 13 top and mid-level combined ISIS leaders killed... TOTAL. Yeah they're quaking in their flip-flops.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (MbrzC)
It's amazing what you can get online these days. Not fun for the UPS guy though.
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (DL2i+)
This one will have more range and more stopping power.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:56 PM (Xo1Rt)
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155 howitzer, eh?
Posted by: Kaspar Gutman at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (Wu2k4)
Top 2 Alternative Artsy Faux-Profound Phrases to Use in Place of
"As we squeeze its heart, we'll make it harder for ISIL to pump its terror.":
2) We shall burn ISIL's Meringue of Violence thus ruining their Terror Pie.
1) As the Mole Rat shakes it's pubeless yet massive balls to warn off invading aggressors, so shall we wave the Flag of Salty, Vinegary Freedom upon ISIL's face.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2015 01:54 PM (0cMkb)
"As we squeeze its balls, much as I do Reggie's every night, we'll get ISIL to squeal in delight. Wait, what?"
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: tcn
I think I speak for everyone when I say I was not expecting that next word to be "moustache".....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
ISWYDT. Golf clap.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (mndtc)
I tthink that's a prime example of Ricardo Kill's "hope for the best, plan for the worst" philosophy. Do you have a newsletter?
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (iIzG7)
No, they won't.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (nXxF1)
It's funny how differently Germans will speak German in various parts of Germany.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 01:53 PM (nXxF1
Funny how mushy/english in the mouth folks from LA sound compared to say Earth
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (voOPb)
2. RINOs become Dems. Dems take permanent majority of both houses.
3. Remaining conservatives form a new party which will always be in the minority and thus will be ineffective.
4. Permanent leftist rule ensues but nobody notices because pot is free and heroin is legal and cheap.
5. Profit!
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 14, 2015 01:52 P
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Yep. On the positive side, being conservative will be deemed a mental illness, and we will all be required to hardcore antidepressents, so we kind of won't notice.
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (9JJgN)
She'll probably outlast TFG....
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2015 01:58 PM (Csyk4)
It's amazing what you can get online these days. Not fun for the UPS guy though.
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2015 01:57 PM (DL2i+
Lotta good that Union did for them.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 01:58 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)
I'd go to Trumbo if they stuck a harpoon in him in the end.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 01:58 PM (FkBIv)
Seems like if you are going to be an agitating "organizer," you would want to be a bit, I don't know, ORGANIZED?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 14, 2015 01:50 PM (+YMhA)
Gets better.
http://tinyurl.com/ntrnw9m
Incredible scenes on Twitter as the leading figures of Black Lives Matter are effectively ejecting New York Daily News journalist Shaun King from the movement
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 01:58 PM (fWAjv)
"yes, Trump said he would institute Prima Nocta where he can sleep with any woman in the nation he chooses! That just means he wants to hug your wife and give her money!"
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 01:59 PM (39g3+)
2. RINOs become Dems. Dems take permanent majority of both houses.
3. Remaining conservatives form a new party which will always be in the minority and thus will be ineffective.
4. Permanent leftist rule ensues but nobody notices because pot is free and heroin is legal and cheap.
5. Profit!
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at December 14, 2015 01:52 PM (RD7QR)
So minus the Heroin... pretty much same as today. check.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:59 PM (MbrzC)
Maybe it makes it most likely it won't but it will be devastating to someone.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 01:59 PM (Xo1Rt)
She'll probably outlast TFG....
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2015 01:58 PM (Csyk4)
Unlike Barry she's not riddled with AIDS
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2015 01:59 PM (493sH)
Posted by: goon at December 14, 2015 02:00 PM (gy5kE)
VOX explains why Obamacare premiums are soaring (and why that might not be a bad thing)
Their explanations for this rolling disaster sound oddly familiar, I could swear I've heard all of them before. It's almost as if somebody was saying these things before this insanity became law. Deja vu all over again.
Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at December 14, 2015 02:00 PM (1BQGO)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2015 01:58 PM (Csyk4
Not if we have anything to say about it.
Posted by; Ezekiel Emmauel
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 02:00 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: shibumi who is awash in existential dread
We'll all be wandering around dazed like Chief Bromden.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 14, 2015 02:00 PM (FkBIv)
I agree with your analysis.
I also think it's well past time to keep blaming the evil establishment for forcing Romney on voters. Trump and Cruz are 1 and 2 in this race with a bullet while Jeb is collapsing and Rubio is running a meh race.
Voters chose Romney just like they are favoring Trump and Cruz this cycle.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (/tuJf)
I assume you can see the difference but defending Trump will never be about the nuance or details.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (cdYPW)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 01:59 PM (MbrzC)
That might not be such a bad thing if the Feds get their way with pain prescription pills.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (voOPb)
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I don't know what's taking so long to figure out since to many have directly said that over and over again, though it's not all of his support but it's definitely a healthy chunk of it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (MbrzC)
So what we're stuck with is trying to make it fairer and cheaper by spreading the cost and making policies looser and able to be purchased across state lines. And other mods. But State run health care isn't going away unless the entire edifice of government collapses. And that may happen.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That
_____________________
I think even a RINO Republican would repeal most of it. I even think a President Hillary would be wiling to cut a deal to get rid of a lot of it.
It's not popular and it doesn't work and it's crumbling.
But the solution isn't socialized medicine, why give the Left that victory they've always wanted? You think it's bad now?
I honestly would trust Romney more on healthcare than I do Donald Trump. What we hate about ObamaCare would be amplified by 100 with Single Payer.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (KaEpw)
Cassius Clay changed his name to Muhammad Ali.
Barry Sotero changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: nannyhag at December 14, 2015 02:02 PM (Queum)
Posted by: Words, just words at December 14, 2015 02:02 PM (VV4qd)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:02 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: goon at December 14, 2015 02:03 PM (gy5kE)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA
When shithouse rats collide.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 14, 2015 02:03 PM (326rv)
CT, Jeb's echoing Trump more than the vice versa.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 02:03 PM (nXxF1)
I've never understood why he would change his name from that of a famous Abolitionist to that of a notorious slaveowner. Could someone kindly explain that one to me? Pretty please?
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 02:03 PM (iIzG7)
That's the reason I'm ambivalent toward a Trump win. OK, whatever, put the deck chair over there. At least you're entertaining while you do it.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:04 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at December 14, 2015 02:04 PM (LYCUN)
Good for him. Who cares about Jeb? He's a nobody who can't win and nobody likes him. Even his own damn mom said he shouldn't run: "we've had enough Bushes."
This false dichotomy is hilariously transparent. If you don't back Trump, then you love Jeb! You're getting straw everywhere.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:05 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2015 02:06 PM (Csyk4)
Aside from the fact that if Obama were to be assasinated it would plunge this country into more chaos than we already have and comments like that are understandably frowned on by Ace and other co-bloggers heres
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 02:06 PM (No/ki)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (cdYPW)
I think I see your problem. You naively think that Trump supporters have to endorse all the many statements he's made over the years. But that's wrong. Trump is simply a big "Fuck You" to the GOPe. No more, no less.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 02:06 PM (CPHkQ)
It's part of that whole vast 'We win by losing' theory. Never could follow the logic on that one.
Posted by: troyriser at December 14, 2015 02:06 PM (WuTfJ)
The choices were manipulated by the GOPe in 2012.
They're not getting away with that this time. Or at least it will be seen for what it is.
The back room guys hate the light of day. They're scurrying like cockroaches to hide their doings.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 02:06 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 14, 2015 02:07 PM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (KaEpw)
Based on what? The GOP has held both houses for over 4 years, now, and never done a single thing to stop BarkyCare. They've been great at making sure it's funded and unimpeded in its progress.
Yet, you think that a Vichy GOP President is, all of a sudden, going to change that? From the same Vichy GOP that has been caught making plans to stop talking about BarkyCare, at all? Okey dokey.
I can't wait to hear what you think about how the Vichy GOP is going to start interior enforcement on illegals...
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 02:07 PM (zc3Db)
Just you wait. Cleaned up completely by next summer.
No doubt.
I'm telling you. Next summer for sure.
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 14, 2015 02:07 PM (X+nFp)
I'm still surprised that comment stands.
And yet one about a slap fight between cobs was zapped.
I'm losing track of the rules.
Are we playing Calvin Ball?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 02:08 PM (Xo1Rt)
So ... Do the Muslims keep hitting mostly cities Federal targets ... or do they diversify into rural areas ? Because that answer, I'm pretty sure, will decide if we remain one country in the next fifty years.
Posted by: Irony at December 14, 2015 02:08 PM (c04Om)
Don't get chompy. Calm down.
I'm saying that Trump is leading the crowd and debate. This is good. Drawing the crowd to the right. Again, good.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 02:08 PM (nXxF1)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
So after the "Fuck You" and Hillary beats Trump by 10 points (latest WSJ/NBC poll, while other Republicans are beating her), does everything then fall into place?
Trying to figure out how a Hillary landslide helps conservatives
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:08 PM (KaEpw)
Fenelon: the polite Christian prays for Obama daily. I do -- see Psalms 109:8 for my prayer.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 02:09 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:09 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (KaEpw)
I don't. But thats why we are here
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 02:10 PM (voOPb)
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What do you call an Eskimo Muzzie?
A Snow-blow-up! HA! geddit? ah nevermind
Posted by: Bigby's Pattycakes at December 14, 2015 02:10 PM (3ZtZW)
Guess he didn't get the memo that "DAESH" (clenched jaw pronunciation) is an insult.
Posted by: SiliconeSister at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (GqWBj)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (ftVQq)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:01 PM (KaEpw)
I don't. But thats why we are here
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I trust neither.
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (gmeXX)
I'm not surprised you've never heard of him. He's real low energy. I think he may suffer from Low T. Lucky for him I have a solution for that.
Posted by: Donald Trump's High T Supplements at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (LYCUN)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPai
They've passed repeals dozens of times and just now they were able to get it through a filibuster in the Senate where Obama will have to veto it
http://tinyurl.com/o4oufqa
It's hard to repeal ObamaCare with a President Obama
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (KaEpw)
Posted by: f'd at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (KvWlw)
I don't think there are people here to moderate things all the time, but in the past had Ace been around it would have been zapped. In consideration of all the hard word Ace puts in here-being an important alternate voice-people even shouldn't consider posting it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (No/ki)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 02:06 PM (No/ki
And my Mother's words come to mind......If you can't say something nice. She passed before she knew I was a moron
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (voOPb)
That would make him a Daesh-bag.
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Fritz at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (UzPAd)
The one whose health is the biggest concern is Hillary Clinton. She's already had severe health issues and is quite aged, which combined with a very unhealthy livestyle spells disaster. Keep a close eye on her veep choice: that's who they probably want in there but can't get elected normally.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:02 PM (39g3+)
______________________________
What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/1!?!?!1/1//!!?!?!??
*hic*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (Csyk4)
You have to hang out in certain social circles to know about ¡Senor Heb! and how he's inevitable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (8ZskC)
We're working hard to track down and put the screws on ISIS' vast recruitment machine, that is, anyone who puts Islam to scrutiny or derision.
Posted by: Obummer at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (JVEmw)
>>They're not getting away with that this time. Or at least it will be seen for what it is.
>>The back room guys hate the light of day. They're scurrying like cockroaches to hide their doings.
Bullshit. Nobody made Rick Perry turn into an idiot and forget his own platform. He did that all on his own. Just like nobody told Fred! to sleep through his campaign.
The simple fact is that the establishment will back whichever candidate(s) they think can win and they can work with. They don't control squat when it comes to the campaign performance of the candidates or the voters reaction.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2015 02:13 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2015 02:13 PM (No/ki)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 02:06 PM (CPHkQ)
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Said best in the morning thread.... for some, he is the chosen form of the destructor (ghostbusters refference). http://tinyurl.com/zxpudzt
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:13 PM (MbrzC)
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Obama CAIRs about ISIS
Posted by: votermom at December 14, 2015 02:13 PM (cbfNE)
There literally is nothing Trump could say that supporters would not leap up and defend, making up whatever they have to in order to justify it.
I like you, Christopher, and enjoy your posts, but that is flat out wrong (for me, at least, and, I suspect for a lot of the Trump supporters here).
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 14, 2015 02:13 PM (X6fMO)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:08 PM (KaEpw)
Frankly, I don't trust those polls. Look at the sources. Infested with Dems and Rinos, both.
But if the whole point of the game is to throw a fuck in the GOPe, then forcing them to lose the election is consistent, no?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 02:13 PM (CPHkQ)
Posted by: SH at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (gmeXX
I don't even trust the neighbor who is running for village trustee in a town of 500. Politicians. Ugh
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 02:13 PM (voOPb)
Why sure he does! He's more or less allied to them, hoping he'll see
Assad crucified before his term is up. After that happens, we'll see
about any further actions.
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.I thought Assad was a darling of the left. After all Pelosi defied Bush II and went and had tea with him.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 14, 2015 02:14 PM (iONHu)
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This Obamacare ain't going anywhere, oh at some point there will be some changes, none really for the better but there will never be a repeal of it.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:14 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Coolio
Bullshit. This could have been strangled in its crib multiple times. The dems proved this in the 1970s when they fucked over S. Vietnam and cut off funding for bombing.
And now these morons are talking about removing two of the worst taxes associated with it.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 14, 2015 02:14 PM (326rv)
I agree, and that's what they're counting on for Hillary. Their entire policy and the plan for "transforming" America into a socialist utopia requires someone at the top that has identity group immunity. They can't run a white guy, because he'd just get shredded.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:14 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know what's taking so long to figure out since to many have directly said that over and over again, though it's not all of his support but it's definitely a healthy chunk of it.
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Meh. Trump has forced the GOPe to move right. The longer he leads in the polls and consumes all media the further right we as a nation will vote. Imagine that his candidacy has introduced the idea that a nation exists to serve it's citizens and not the people of the world. Did any GOPe douche do that?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 14, 2015 02:15 PM (oDCMR)
There's absolutely nothing Trump can say to get me to vote for the GOP Establishment ever again.
Posted by: Irony at December 14, 2015 02:15 PM (c04Om)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at December 14, 2015 02:15 PM (sqs5K)
Ya gotta watch every damn one of them. Top-to-bottom. They'll sell their souls for $500 if the opportunity presents.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 02:16 PM (nXxF1)
Posted by: MTF at December 14, 2015 02:16 PM (HtsKA)
The RINOs may retain the senate. I doubt it.
So if its a RINO house and Dem Senate, we get grid lock and liberal policies.
If its Hillary we get a House who wont vote to impeach, something about a vagina.
Sorry to be the harbinger of doom.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 02:16 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:08 PM (KaEpw)
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The war is already lost.
Posted by: Harry Reid at December 14, 2015 02:16 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 02:09 PM (iIzG7)
For those wo a Bible handy:
109:8
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
109:9
Let his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
And it goes on.
It's a pretty good curse/prayer.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 02:16 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Sambo at December 14, 2015 02:17 PM (CwNIZ)
LOL. You really fall for that kabuki theater? Those bills were totally meaningless and everyone knew it - well, everyone but you, it seems.
It's hard to repeal ObamaCare with a President Obama
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:11 PM (KaEpw)
Not, it wasn't. That same GOP passed handfuls of must-pass funding bills and debt-limit raises. They never tried to leverage any of them. In fact, they speicifically said that they wouldn't, because fully funding Barky in all of his America-killing policies was more important to them than doing away with BarkyCare.
Look at what the Weeping Boner did on his way out and then tell me about how the Vichy GOP tried to fight ANYTHING Barky had done.
yeah ... I remember when they talked about how they were going to stop his insane, un-Constitutional tyrannical theft of power to legalize his pet illegals, stomping all over Congress and the Constitution in the process. Whatever ever became of that? Oh yeah! Rubio and the rest of the Vichy GOP jumped in and tried to out-treason Barky in giving aid and comfort to invading illegals and called me a bigot and a racist for wanting the Rule of Law followed and the Constitution respected. They called me names because I believe in the importance of the concept of the nation-state and the notion of sovereignty.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 02:17 PM (zc3Db)
Well I didn't mean all people who are cheering Trump now. Most of the people here who are boosting him are doing so because its a big fat finger in the face of the GOP and a physical expression of anger and frustration with years of federal government corruption, incompetence, and evil.
But for those who actually support him and want to see him in office, the boosters who love Trump... its like glassy-eyed cult zealotry. It simply doesn't matter what he says or does, or is. Its like with Obama supporters: the idea of who he is and what they have shaped him to be in their minds matters more than reality.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:17 PM (39g3+)
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Not true.
Posted by: Bigby's Pattycakes at December 14, 2015 02:17 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 02:17 PM (nXxF1)
Ya gotta watch every damn one of them. Top-to-bottom. They'll sell their souls for $500 if the opportunity presents.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 02:16 PM (nXxF1
Amen.
Sidewalks would be nice this person says.
Don't need em, don't want em.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 14, 2015 02:17 PM (voOPb)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at December 14, 2015 02:15 PM (sqs5K)
*sigh*
One more deadly assault hits America's streets. How ironic.
Posted by: Josh Earnest at December 14, 2015 02:18 PM (8ZskC)
Me either. He doesn't determine what I do or say at any level.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:18 PM (39g3+)
We're already past the point of no-return. Might as well punish the assholes who put us here.
Trump 2016, because fuck those guys, that's why.
Posted by: GMan at December 14, 2015 02:18 PM (sxq57)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 02:19 PM (nXxF1)
Posted by: Qoheleth at December 14, 2015 02:19 PM (iIzG7)
Uh no. Obamacare is being funded as an entitlement just like SS or Medicare.
War funding is not.
Not all funding is the same and the prescription for repealing them is different.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2015 02:19 PM (/tuJf)
That POS General John Allen says "oof-gaan-eees-staan". Drives me nuts. (He's the one who blamed our troops for burning those crappy korans.) He's now in charge of some phony-baloney anti-isis command.
Posted by: NCwoof at December 14, 2015 02:20 PM (aUQgu)
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There ya go.
Posted by: Bigby's Pattycakes at December 14, 2015 02:20 PM (3ZtZW)
Been hemming and hawing for a while now.
San Bernardino shoved me off the fence pretty hard.
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at December 14, 2015 02:20 PM (sqs5K)
We're not going to vote for a crappy GOP schmuck no matter how many demons you stack up against him. Not again, ever. It simply does not matter what you say or do. We're not going to be fooled again. No more holding our nose. No more lesser evil. No more voting against the other guy. You had your 3 strikes and every one was a catastrophic fail.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:20 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 02:20 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: JoeF. at December 14, 2015 02:12 PM (Csyk4)
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Cause they get so much of that vote? (15% on the high side pre obama)
Cause they make such and effort every cycle for that voting block? (they don't)
Doesn't make any sense... but then again this is the GOP you're talking about so logic doesn't need apply.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:21 PM (MbrzC)
But if the whole point of the game is to throw a fuck in the GOPe, then forcing them to lose the election is consistent, no?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I think you have a naive assumption that things can't get worse.
John McCain was the ultimate Establishment RINO, and him getting his teeth kicked in by Obama in 2008 didn't make things better as far as I'm concerned. Or Romney losing in 2012.
If the game plan is to make sure leftwing democrats win at the ballot box in order to teach a lesson to certain people, might be easier to cut out the middle man and just join the other team.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:21 PM (KaEpw)
The dumbasses don't read the fucking bills, they'll not see the reference, and the thing will pass, will get signed and THEN you haul out the law and say, hey, I guess we just repealed obamacare.
Apparently this strategy is too fucking hard to figure out though.
Posted by: GMan at December 14, 2015 02:21 PM (sxq57)
Barack never said he would stand with ISIL, but my gut feel is he would lean towards standing with ISIL over conservatives who favor guns, religion, red meat, fossil fuel, and hatred of black people.
Posted by: Michelle Obama at December 14, 2015 02:22 PM (OiFtZ)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 02:22 PM (gf8BH)
Republican meltdown. If he were all white--a pencil-necked geek who
bloviated like a college professor, neither McCain nor Romney would
have been afraid to go after him; and Congress would throw roadblocks
at every turn. It's that simple. They just don't want to be seen going
after "the black guy."
.
.
.
.I said that 8 years ago. When Obama got nominated I told everyone that he could pretty much do anything he wanted to and be safe from impeachment. Boy do I hate being right some times.
What I can't understand is why the Dems didn't roll with their bucket list right away when they had all three branches. They could have had it all. $15 Minimum wage, Assault Weapons Ban, Liberal Campaign Finance Reform, Carbon Tax, Universal Gun Registration, etc.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 14, 2015 02:22 PM (iONHu)
That probably would work, if everyone kept their mouth shut about it. If I were a staffer, I'd slip that in without telling anyone.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:22 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at December 14, 2015 02:23 PM (nXxF1)
Posted by: HH at December 14, 2015 02:23 PM (DrCtv)
Uh no. Obamacare is being funded as an entitlement just like SS or Medicare.
War funding is not.
Not all funding is the same and the prescription for repealing them is different.
Posted by: JackStraw
It's not just funding. The agencies are writing shit that no one has seen. Monies were shifted in order to keep this POS afloat. The website went live and stayed live without the proper security.
All of these were avenues for action, and all of them were ignored.
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 14, 2015 02:23 PM (326rv)
Who'd have known?
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 14, 2015 02:24 PM (39g3+)
The toy factory's Facebook page lists the "Palestinian dolls" that the company specializes in, reports Walla.
The most popular dolls are "Yasser," replete with the black-and-white kheffiyeh of the arch terrorist Yasser Arafat and made in his likeness, as well as a female Arab woman doll named Zina.
Sniff Sniff...is that a fire I smell?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 14, 2015 02:24 PM (gf8BH)
... those of you still trying to reasonably persuade folks into giving the GOP another chance are, frankly, wasting your fucking time.
A bunch of us are gone. We're not coming back. And we just do not give a damn about what happens next.
There seems to be a bunch of you, including the management around here, that can say the words but apparently can't intellectually grasp just how pissed off some of us are.
So Hillary! wins as a result ? Big. Fucking. Deal.
Posted by: Irony at December 14, 2015 02:24 PM (c04Om)
Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at December 14, 2015 02:25 PM (sqs5K)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor
Who is this "we" Kemosabe?
I happen to think Trumps a schmuck and has taken position FAR to the Left of the GOP mainstream like Universal Health Care, pro-choice (pro partial birth abortion), wants to ban assault weapons, mandatory waiting periods for guns, no-fly list gun lists, wealth tax, eminent domain, etc, etc
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:25 PM (KaEpw)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2015 02:26 PM (CPHkQ)
That probably would work, if everyone kept their mouth shut about it. If I were a staffer, I'd slip that in without telling anyone.
What happened to the No Severability Clause?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 02:28 PM (mndtc)
Oh hush. Conservatives don't have a hatred of Black people.
We do have a hatred of those who lie cheat and steal and murder. Regardless of color of their skin.
See how that works?
We hate based on facts.
Liberals (and apparently you) hate based on falsehoods.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 14, 2015 02:28 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at December 14, 2015 02:28 PM (fWAjv)
Or he is a loon.
Or he is a stalking horse for someone else. If he goes far enough, and then implodes, he takes the GOP with it.
Or is for real, or thinks that he is for real.
I don't know, and I doubt that anyone does know. At the moment, he is ably flying against the others, and running a game that only he can play (potentially self funding, able to play the media and willing to call out the MFM).
Posted by: Blue Hen at December 14, 2015 02:29 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
__________________
I think a conservative can come to that conclusion and be a one-issue voter, just don't try and pretend he's a rock ribbed conservative, he's not.
Trump is a very liberal, New York Democrat that's a border hawk.
I will vote that over Hillary, but if he gets the nomination, he's going to be the 2nd coming of Huey Long.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:31 PM (KaEpw)
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:33 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at December 14, 2015 02:33 PM (iONHu)
Is that the guy on FOX Sports?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at December 14, 2015 02:34 PM (XtAzU)
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Almost nobody has been is doing that around these parts.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:34 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 14, 2015 02:35 PM (iQIUe)
Well, I agree with George Will that if you think Obama is usurping power, wait till you see Trump
Until people unite and reassert control, nothing will change. Therefore, nothing will change.
Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 14, 2015 02:36 PM (laMCB)
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Almost nobody has been is doing that around these parts.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt
Oh sure they have.
I've yet to hear someone say "Trump is bad on that issue, but I think his stance on the border is more important"
Instead it's "You're a LIAR!" if a direct quote from a Trump book is raised like how Trump wants to ban assault weapons and institute a federal waiting period to purchase any gun.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:38 PM (KaEpw)
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Almost nobody has been is doing that around these parts.
He's the burn it down drive a stake thru the GOPe's heart.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2015 02:38 PM (mndtc)
Posted by: rickb223
If the non-Establishment wing loses a landslide election, that is only going to strengthen the Establishment's hand.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:41 PM (KaEpw)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:31 PM (KaEpw)
I never argued that Trump was a conservative. I argued that you were being untruthful about his current positions. He is not for socialized medicine. He was. He said exactly that but he isn't anymore. He does want to repeal BarkyCare and has a questionable replacement in mind (which is only a little less problematic than Mittens' was) but is not looking to institute single-payer.
Trump is solid on the most important issues and is more intent on repealing BarkyCare than Mittens ever was (though he also has the silly replacement bullshit thing going, but that doesn't put him behind anyone in the GOP outside of Cruz). Trump appreciates the notino of sovereignty, loves America and wants this nation to be a winner, again - which is a major change and a major difference from the Vichy GOP, which is all about giving aid and comfort to invading illegals.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 02:42 PM (zc3Db)
I've yet to hear someone say "Trump is bad on that issue, but I think his stance on the border is more important"
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They you've not been reading this thread or others.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:44 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
Did you see the interview I linked to? It's from an interview THIS YEAR on 60 minutes.
http://tinyurl.com/h5ed2lt
At the GOP debate THIS YEAR he said he's for Universal Health Care when asked about it and how great it works in Scotland and Canada.
It's not like he said this stuff 40 years ago when he was a kid, it's a few months ago.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:45 PM (KaEpw)
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Not true.
Posted by: Bigby's Pattycakes at December 14, 2015 02:17 PM (3ZtZW)
I identify more as a Democrat. No big deal
The economy does better under Democrat administrations. Eh who cares.
I think Kelo was a good decision . Man just has a different opinion.
Romney's illegal immigration strategy is malicious. Romney sucks.
I think Universal healthcare is the right thing to do. It's not the same as Obamacare.
Both Israel and the Palestinians have issues they need to correct. Well you know what he means.
Would not allow purchase of guns by people on the no fly list.
If you think about it it could make sense.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 02:46 PM (cdYPW)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:45 PM (KaEpw)
But that's not exactly what he siad, which is my point. He did say that it worked great in Canada - but he added that it wouldn't work here. You conveniently leave that second part out. I have problems with the first, to be sure - but as I wrote before I couldn't give two shits what other countries do. It's the second part that Trump said that it wouldn't work here that was the more important one to me (regarding his intentions). I didn't like that he thought it would have worked here, before, but that is past, anyway.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 02:49 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:38 PM (KaEpw)
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Probably cause cause you come off like a sock when you do it, and it's all you seem to want to talk about.
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If the non-Establishment wing loses a landslide election, that is only going to strengthen the Establishment's hand.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:41 PM (KaEpw)
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Some people don't give a f*ck either way.
Posted by: ThisBeingMilt at December 14, 2015 02:49 PM (MbrzC)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 02:51 PM (cdYPW)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 14, 2015 02:51 PM (cdYPW)
No, he's not.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 02:52 PM (zc3Db)
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair
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In the 60 minutes Interview, he clearly states he wants Universal Health Care and say it's a "non-republican" thing but that he wants it. This was from like 12 weeks ago.
And when Trump ran for President in 2000 under the Reform Party, he also stated he wanted single payer health care. So at least on this issue, he's been consistent
If you want to distort reality to prop up your preferred candidate, fine, but most conservatives should have a big problem with the idea of more socialism.
ObamaCare was the worst domestic policy pushed on us in several generations and Trump's solution is even worse
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:56 PM (KaEpw)
Posted by: Wampa at December 14, 2015 02:58 PM (/lwTU)
And Rubio is already a proven liar who had to be dragged kicking and screaming to a point where he's still not even close to correct.
You don't like Trump. That's fine. I hated Trump for decades. But he knows what the major problems are and has identified them on his own, without any prodding from anyone. He has taken loads of shit from people and has not wavered in them. I trust his sincerity in this, which is the major difference between him and Rubio in terms of assessing their current positions. Rubio has proven himself to be totally untrustworthy. You disagree or seem to think that there is no such thing as a person assessing the sincerity of another, then that's your position. But don't try to make that as some sort of objective argument. it fails miserably in that respect.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 02:58 PM (zc3Db)
And when Trump ran for President in 2000 under the Reform Party, he also stated he wanted single payer health care. So at least on this issue, he's been consistent
Yes, he said that he wants universal coverage but that is not single payer. You do know the difference, right?
I don't like his idea of universal coverage but he is not talking about socialized medicine. Cold comfort in that, but there is a distinction. His serious desire to repeal BarkyCare is the more important part, for now.
If you want to distort reality to prop up your preferred candidate, fine, but most conservatives should have a big problem with the idea of more socialism.
ObamaCare was the worst domestic policy pushed on us in several generations and Trump's solution is even worse
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 02:56 PM (KaEpw)
Trump is not talking about a worse solution. In fact, he was only spitballing a general idea - which I disagree with, violently, but is not formed to any extent to be overly worrying.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 03:04 PM (zc3Db)
Universal coverage = socialized medicine, he said he wants the government to pay for everyone.
Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably--
Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 03:08 PM (KaEpw)
No, that's not what he said. He was talking about the uninsured, not everyone. he is NOT talking about socialized medicine. What he is talking about is problematic but it is most certainly not single-payer. Look up the difference if you don't understand.
Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Trump: They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably--
Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Trump: --the government's gonna pay for it.
Posted by: Coolio at December 14, 2015 03:08 PM (KaEpw)
yeah ... he's talking about making deals with hospitals. He probably wanted to say something about states in this. He thinks he's going to be able to make some deal to get the uninsured covered for whatever procedures. I don't put much stock in this. he didn't talk about forcing hospitals, only making deals. You can make of this what you will. This is how things currently are with respect to emergency room care (and have been for some time). I don't like that, either, but it's not that major of a difference, though it still is wrong.
But it is NOT socialized medicine, so you should stop trying to characterize it as that. Just characterize it as what it is, which should be enough to make your point, which is subsidies (it seems) to handle insurance for those who are uninsured. And it won't work.
But the repeal of barkyCare is the more important aspect and we can argue over this when it comes to it.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 14, 2015 03:24 PM (zc3Db)
Anyways, he really cares.
Posted by: PJ at December 14, 2015 06:35 PM (cHuNI)
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