John Kass: Gee, Obama's Sure Quiet About the Chicago Police Shooting Cover-Up, Huh?

I proposed that GOP candidates should go to Chicago to call for Rahm Emmanuel's resignation and decry Democrats' racist, corrupt rule of cities.

I hope someone will do that. I imagine they won't.

Meanwhile, Obama's quiet as a churchmouse.

Have you watched the news about President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton loudly demanding justice in the Laquan McDonald case in Chicago?
No?
Me neither. I haven't seen word one from the mouths of Obama or Clinton about any of it. All I've seen are tepid, tapioca statements from their spokesmen.
That silence interests me. Sometimes, what politicians avoid, what they won't say, is more compelling than their dog and pony shows and photo ops.
Yes, Clinton did back a call for a Justice Department investigation of Chicago police when the mayor was still in denial. But since then, crickets. She and other national Democrats are keeping their hands off Chicago. And I'm sure you know why.
The guy who runs Chicago, Mayor Rahm Emanuel, is their guy.

The whole column is worth reading.

Megyn Kelly also keeps asking: Why is Obama, who has gone to every mass shooting site, staying away from San Bernadino?

The answer is so obvious. As Krauthammer said: Because he doesn't want people to notice the terrorist shooting. He doesn't want people to pay attention to it.

He's pretending it didn't happen, just as he pretended Kathy Steinle wasn't murdered by an ilegal he permitted to remain in this country.

Posted by: Ace at 06:58 PM

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1 1st?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:00 PM (AkOaV)

2 awesome.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:01 PM (AkOaV)

3 Rham knows where the bath house boyz are buried.

I actually don't want him to resign. I am tired of the DEMANDING for resignations, of sheriffs, of professors, of whoever.

Now, my darlings, I'd be all for demanding that Le Baroque, Emperor of Prancercizers, resigned. I'd throw a big party for about an entire year.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at December 11, 2015 07:01 PM (7lqMl)

4 Counterpoint his enthused speech calling for gun control with his sleepy drone over the Paris attacks.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 11, 2015 07:01 PM (oVJmc)

5 They really have Nothing but the political game. there is no' for the children' in reality just lust for more power.

this has been the most revealing peak behind the masks of the left i've ever experienced.

rotten from their pointy sick heads to their toes.

Posted by: willow at December 11, 2015 07:01 PM (7Iwef)

6
And ISIS is saying they're going to hit Chicago.

I feel bad for the innocent people there. Chi-Town Jerry is top of mind.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 07:03 PM (uRmWf)

7 As for the Chicago shooting -- the coverup is worse then the crime here.

Rahm should have immediately fired the cop (like they did in S Charleston, SC) and it wouldn't have become this huge issue.

So of course Hillary and Obama will cover for him. Because there's no disagreement (well very little) that the cop fucked up majorly. The big scandal here is the cover up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:03 PM (AkOaV)

8
What shooting?

Now, watch this drive.

*swat*

*ball ends up in trees*

Posted by: Chocolate Fonzie at December 11, 2015 07:03 PM (o98Jz)

9 Does anyone know how Rham developed his nub-finger? Just curious. I am sure wiki might know but too lazy to look. Maybe he got too close to the caviar with mooch? She thought it was an endive.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at December 11, 2015 07:04 PM (7lqMl)

10 It would be wrong for me to comment on an ongoing investigation.

Posted by: Barackhenaten I at December 11, 2015 07:04 PM (93LO+)

11
Local crime story.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 07:04 PM (uRmWf)

12 Maybe they are finally being exposed, imploding, and collapsing. They can't seem to contain the media coverage like they used to.

Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2015 07:05 PM (2x3L+)

13 Cover-up your administration's screw-up that got people killed to get through an election.

Have we seen this movie before?

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 11, 2015 07:05 PM (r1fLd)

14 Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at December 11, 2015 07:04 PM (7lqMl)

on a meat slicer I think when he was a kid. He worked at a fast food place, cut his finger badly, and it got infected, and... yeah.

sounds painful.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:05 PM (AkOaV)

15 Ace is on fire today.

The republicans are fucking stupid. Never let a crisis go to waste. The party of stupid.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:05 PM (voOPb)

16 I was curious about the origins of the phrase, as quiet as a church mouse so I did a Bing search, and stumbled across this.

A lady in church leans over to her husband and whispers, "I just let out a silent fart, what should I do?"

The husband replies, "Put a new battery in your hearing aid."

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 11, 2015 07:06 PM (NeFrd)

17 >>> 3 Rham knows where the bath house boyz are buried.

Bingo.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2015 07:06 PM (AfsKp)

18
Sliced it while working at an Arby's in high school. Got infected and they had to amputate.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2015 07:06 PM (o98Jz)

19 @14, well, that stinks. I guess I should not be so mean.

Hilz puts me in a bad mood. Also isis. And Baroque.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at December 11, 2015 07:06 PM (7lqMl)

20 12 Maybe they are finally being exposed, imploding, and collapsing. They can't seem to contain the media coverage like they used to.
Posted by: L, Elle at December 11, 2015 07:05 PM (2x3L+)

Rush Limbaugh can be credited big time for that. Say what you will, he almost singlehandedly destroyed the MFM. And paved the way for the inter tubes and the rest of talk radio.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 07:07 PM (uRmWf)

21 7 As for the Chicago shooting -- the coverup is worse then the crime here.

Sure it is. Anyone that can't connect the dots on motive, should be institutionalized.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 11, 2015 07:07 PM (WWdgA)

22 15 Ace is on fire today.

The republicans are fucking stupid. Never let a crisis go to waste. The party of stupid.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:05 PM (voOPb)

Never confuse stupidity with what it really is - COLLABORATION.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (uRmWf)

23 Chicago is a safe, well-run city with a great baseball team playing at Ripley Field.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (dbDB8)

24 We all need to watch this: the "Tueller Drill," or the "21-foot rule" for knife-wielding attackers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_KJ1R2PCMM

They can close a 21-foot gap in 1.5 second.

Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (TFCH1)

25 6
And ISIS is saying they're going to hit Chicago.

I feel bad for the innocent people there. Chi-Town Jerry is top of mind.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 07:03 PM (uRmWf)

DArtist

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (voOPb)

26
I proposed that GOP candidates should go to Chicago to call for Rahm Emmanuel's resignation and decry Democrats' racist, corrupt rule of cities.

Do recall many Republicans insisted on endorsing and funding Rahm, because was was less scary than his opponent and they couldn't bear to just stand on the sidelines and let the Dems cut each other up.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (kdS6q)

27 The sweetest sound...

Posted by: Prez'nit O'Dhimmi at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (Dwehj)

28
Y'know, in reading about BalletBoy's childhood, it's actually disheartening to see that his family seems to have done most things right, not coddling him, yet look at how he turned out.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (o98Jz)

29 Never confuse stupidity with what it really is - COLLABORATION.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (uRmWf)
yeah....the republicans are not on our side

Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at December 11, 2015 07:09 PM (0O7c5)

30 I haven't seen the Reverend Al leading any of the protest marches in Chitown. The killing of a black yoot, police corruption and a white mayor involved in the cover up usually gets him in at least the front row.

Posted by: Hank at December 11, 2015 07:09 PM (aIt1F)

31 The Chicago police acted stupidly.

Posted by: Percy Gryce at December 11, 2015 07:09 PM (mAm+G)

32
19 @14, well, that stinks. I guess I should not be so mean.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at December 11, 2015 07:06 PM (7lqMl)

Hell no. Kick 'em when they're down, that's what I say.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2015 07:10 PM (o98Jz)

33 Amen Sefton

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:11 PM (voOPb)

34 Are the Bears playing at home on Sunday? They had better win, that would show ISIS..no one messes with the Bears.

Posted by: IC at December 11, 2015 07:11 PM (a0IVu)

35 According to the Tueller Drill video, there's no way to stop a knife attack unless you have at LEAST 21 feet. So that Chicago cop, believe it or not, did what he had to do to save his own life.

The knifeman was bouncing on the balls of his feet, had used the butcher knife to slash the cop car's tires, and was clearly ready to rumble. The policeman, amazing though it may seem, really had to respond super-fast when the guy turned to face him.

This is the problem when we civilians, most of us have never been in any kind of deadly fight -- opine on what is possible/feasible in a deadly force scenario.

Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:11 PM (TFCH1)

36 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:03 PM (AkOaV)

The cop in SC should be on death row. The Chicago cop should have been fired immediately and maybe charged but not 1st degree. IMO. In SC they did not have the ability to cover it up so I don't know what they would have done. I would like to think it was so bad that they wouldn't have tried.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (Yti03)

37 no one messes with the Bears.
Tell me about it.

Posted by: leo's anus at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (QSnYu)

38 I haven't seen the Reverend Al leading any of the protest marches in Chitown.

Posted by: Hank at December 11, 2015 07:09 PM (aIt1F

If that M-F'er ever thinks of muscling in on my turf I'll cut his nuts off.

Posted by: The Reverend Jesse Jackson at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (nFdGS)

39 Although the shooting was bad enough but they covered this up for a year. They went and erased camera footage of the shooting at a nearby Burger King. This was done by the brass, not the on scene investigators.

I'm sure they did other stuff too.

This is what gets people made about the Police. Not that they shoot people but that they are quite willing to hide and to lie about the facts if they've made a mistake. Yet most of the time they're given a clean bill and are said to have acted in accordance with protocols and procedures so no trial.

We all know that some of those shootings were wrong and they know we know but we can't prove it so they just shine everyone on and then wonder why no one respects the police any more.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (Xo1Rt)

40 Y'know, in reading about BalletBoy's childhood, it's actually disheartening to see that his family seems to have done most things right, not coddling him, yet look at how he turned out.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 11, 2015 07:08 PM (o98Jz)

Nature vs. Nurture?

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (0NdlF)

41 >>> Kick 'em when they're down, that's what I say.

That's when they are closest to your boots.

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (AfsKp)

42 The party of stupid.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:05 PM (voOPb)

Kinda funny to watch the DNC operatives with bylines, starting to call the (D)Marxists the party of stupid.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (WWdgA)

43 Paul Petain I mean Ryan will be getting on this just like Granny Botox would if still speaker.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 11, 2015 07:13 PM (AhyHb)

44 Kathy Steinle:

Everybody shoots at sea lions and misses.

It's who we are.

BHO

Posted by: free range jihadist at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (7v/r5)

45 Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:11 PM (TFCH1)

A double tap to center of mass is one thing, but firing 16 (I think) rounds into him while was already on the ground seems a bit harsh.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (Zu3d9)

46 Laquan McDonald didn't look anything like Obama's son, if he had one.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (T78UI)

47 Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:11 PM (TFCH1)

And when the guy was down on the ground after about the 3rd shot, what justified the 13 more shots?

I'll give you the first few shots even though it looks bad. But once that kid was on the ground there was no reason for anymore shots.

NO ONE ELSE FIRED THEIR WEAPON. And that tells you a whole lot about what was going on.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (Xo1Rt)

48 >>I haven't seen the Reverend Al leading any of the protest marches in Chitown.

Jesse Jackson lives in Chicago and even he won't call for Rahm to step down. I agree that the little ballerina has dirt on everyone, it's what he does.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (/tuJf)

49 Whether the shooting is justified or not is not the point.They hid it for a year,they erased footage.

Posted by: Steevy at December 11, 2015 07:15 PM (8HTq1)

50 I hope someone will do that. I imagine they won't.

No upside to be had.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2015 07:15 PM (DL2i+)

51 I wish I could give a shit. For me I hope Mrs. O'leary's cow would have at it again. Then the salt crews can come in.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 11, 2015 07:15 PM (AhyHb)

52 Obama couldn't have a son, he doesn't have balls

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:15 PM (voOPb)

53 That would make an interesting addition to an Arby's roast beast sandwich. Oh well, I guess anything's possible with enough Horsey Sauce™

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 11, 2015 07:16 PM (NeFrd)

54 According to the Tueller Drill video, there's no way to stop a knife
attack unless you have at LEAST 21 feet. So that Chicago cop, believe it
or not, did what he had to do to save his own life.>>>

Holstered weapon is the basis for the Trueller Drill.

Posted by: Willy J. at December 11, 2015 07:16 PM (wHX4r)

55 Black Lives Matter and stuff, you guys.

Unless the circumstances around the unmattering of a Black Life happens to be politically inconvenient and embarrassing to the SCOAMF and/or his cronies. Then not so much. Never mind, huh?

Posted by: Stu-22 at December 11, 2015 07:16 PM (rUc9h)

56 If we notice Chicago, the terrorists in the White House have won!

Posted by: t-bird at December 11, 2015 07:17 PM (5ndb9)

57 So is Rahm going to become a muzzie now?

Posted by: torabora at December 11, 2015 07:17 PM (R6GSj)

58 Black Lives Matter unless it messes with one of Barry's cronies. Rahm threw the police superintendent to the mob to save his own skin. Now they want his head and they're marching in the Loop again tonight.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:17 PM (45oDG)

59 Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (/tuJf)

Nobody else really wants to be mayor 'cause there's nothing left to steal.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at December 11, 2015 07:17 PM (nFdGS)

60 Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:11 PM (TFCH1)

actually, you're wrong that there's no way to stop a knife attack but you have to start moving right away. Moving away has proven to work if you can move to cover that blocks the BG approach also an arm block can get that knife away from your body so that you can move in with gun or with a strike of some sort.

but you have to be aware that the danger is there. That's all that the Tueller video shows.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:18 PM (Xo1Rt)

61 >> ONE ELSE FIRED THEIR WEAPON. And that tells you a whole lot about what was going on.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (

Plus it seems like the other cops were there for a while handling and monitoring the situation and this guy just shows up and starts shooting. So yeah, looks bad.

Posted by: Lea at December 11, 2015 07:18 PM (vmMMi)

62 ISIS would be askeered of Da Bears if the 49ers didn't beat 'em at Soldier Field. Robbie Gould is their bitch.

Posted by: Hank at December 11, 2015 07:19 PM (aIt1F)

63 Fun to watch the monster they created to turn on them. I mean it's really fun.

Posted by: redenzo at December 11, 2015 07:19 PM (WCnJW)

64 I wub u more today than yesterday. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at December 11, 2015 07:20 PM (Dwehj)

65 Black lives matter.

That's why B'More just clocked #325 and #326 today.

Winning!!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 11, 2015 07:20 PM (ptqRm)

66 On the Laquan video, Andrew Branca has an interesting blogpost on the actual shoot:

https://lawofselfdefense.com/li-laquan-mcdonald-video-not-dispositive-of-police-criminal-misconduct/

Destroying the evidence in a coverup is definitely out of bounds and needs to be punished though.

Posted by: ReactionaryMonster at December 11, 2015 07:20 PM (0NdlF)

67 The Tueller Drill video for cops vs. knifemen says that tests with hundreds of officers in simulated fights demonstrate that a minimum distance of 21 feet is necessary for a cop to be able to unholster his gun and get off just TWO shots, center of mass, into the attacker.

Here's the link one more time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_KJ1R2PCMM

In other words, real life ain't like the movies. This reminds me of the African-American pastor who was invited by his local police department to go through their live exercise of street fighting, who came out of it saying he wasn't going to criticize cop shootings any more because he'd experienced firsthand the speed, ferocity, tunnel vision, etc. that prevail in these deadly force situations. (Egregious exceptions aside, of course.)

Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:21 PM (TFCH1)

68 The solution to the Chicago violence is to elect a black Mayor. It has worked so well in every other big blue democrat hell hole city.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 11, 2015 07:21 PM (AhyHb)

69 Rahm is muzzie you morons.

Posted by: Barry the 1st at December 11, 2015 07:21 PM (Moh0M)

70 Anyone see a pic of the teachers union president? That's one scary looking bitch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:22 PM (voOPb)

71 I haven't seen the Reverend Al leading any of the protest marches in Chitown.

Jesse Jackson lives in Chicago and even he won't call for Rahm to
step down. I agree that the little ballerina has dirt on everyone, it's
what he does.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2015 07:14 PM (/tuJf)

Jesse had a march on Black Friday down Michigan Ave but some more militant "youths" got pissed at him just wanting to stand in front of cameras so they broke off and they are now out there again. Shut down my neighborhood on Wednesday. Then they were going to march to Rahm's house until someone must have told them how many miles away it was and they turned around. Idiots all

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:22 PM (45oDG)

72 The teachers union president used to be a runway model...out at the airport.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 11, 2015 07:23 PM (AhyHb)

73 It gets better.

Lotsa high level CPD are "retiring" due to the Fed investigation.

Many were involved with Daley's nephew walking after punching out and killing a small guy.

Dem on Dem love.

regimes of Daley vs. Obama vs. Rahm with a lil Clinton thrown in.

Posted by: seamrog at December 11, 2015 07:23 PM (dN45C)

74
Anyone see a pic of the teachers union president? That's one scary looking bitch

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, he's just a crazy Italian who
drove a red sports car at December 11, 2015 07:22 PM (voOPb)

Jabba the Hut's ugly sister

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:23 PM (45oDG)

75 I am selling campaign hugs for $5K. *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at December 11, 2015 07:23 PM (Dwehj)

76 417/2394 a proud tradition of shootings, just think if Tommy Guns were legal, what the numbers would be...

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2015 07:24 PM (T3Tpd)

77 to the Chicago violence is to elect a black Mayor.

The black guy came in 3rd last year, then he endorsed Chuy.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2015 07:24 PM (DL2i+)

78 For you cat lovers:

https://goo.gl/wb8MfC

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 11, 2015 07:24 PM (iQIUe)

79 "
417/2394 a proud tradition of shootings, just think if Tommy Guns were legal, what the numbers would be..."

-----------------------

Can you hold a Thompson sideways?

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 11, 2015 07:25 PM (AhyHb)

80 They had Harold Washington.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 07:25 PM (FkBIv)

81 Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 11, 2015 07:12 PM (Yti03)

usually murder 2 is "depraved heart" murder. As in, you wildly fire your gun in to a crowd and a bullet hits a bystander.

The cop had intent with each trigger pull. That's murder 1.

definitions vary by state though.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:25 PM (AkOaV)

82 Anyone see a pic of the teachers union president? That's one scary looking bitch

Brain cancer survivor, although she wasn't a supermodel beforehand.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2015 07:25 PM (DL2i+)

83 The solution to the Chicago violence is to elect a
black Mayor. It has worked so well in every other big blue democrat hell
hole city.

Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at December 11, 2015 07:21 PM (AhyHb)

We had 2 in the 80s. Harold Washington was a raging idiot and many businesses left the city. After he dropped dead of a heart attack (was he wearing women's undies?) they put in Eugene Sawyer who was like Grady from Sanford and Son

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:25 PM (45oDG)

84 And about that 21 feet? The cop was decreasing that distance from the
beginning so if there was a threat there from that knife, the cop
increased the threat to himself.

But the main things are the
multiple shots after the guy was down and the cover up after. Oh and the
Lies that they told to cover up the cover up.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:26 PM (Xo1Rt)

85 Willy J. "Holstered weapon is the basis for the Tueller Drill."

No, if you watch the video, they cover the "gun already drawn" scenarios also.

Yes, 16 rounds was overkill, but that's not what the cop is being charged with: he's being damned for shooting at all. Also, it's easy for us noncombatants to judge what a man does with a huge rush of adrenaline surging through his veins. Many cops report after a shooting that they shot "once or twice," when actually they emptied their guns, without even being conscious of it.

I think the cop should have his day in court before we hang him, that's all.

Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:26 PM (TFCH1)

86 The people running this country are either corrupt or incompetent.

I propose we start eliminating whole Federal departments and put every fired or laid off employee on half salary for six months. Can't find a job in the private sector after that? Tough titty.

I can't think of anything else that would simultaneously boost credit standing of the U.S., enhance the efficiency of the federal gov't, and solve the budget crisis simultaneously.

Wait, you mean we'd have to have an actual opposition party in power in Congress to do this? Never mind.

Posted by: Hurricane LaFawnduh at December 11, 2015 07:26 PM (G16wC)

87 WHAT'S SO FUNNY ABOUT PEACE, LOVE, AND UNDERSTANDING? WHOAH-OAH? THAT'S WHAT THE VOTER-UNITS OF THIS NATION WANT AND DEMAND! OR SO THE AP AND MY POLL-MINIONS TELL ME! DID YOU KNOW THAT I AM A GRANDMOTHER OF AN AUTHENTIC HUMAN GRANDCHILD? I AM FILLED WITH GOOD-HUMOR, KINDNESS, AND JOY-STYLE FEELINGS!

ARE YOU READY?

[ROBOTIC CACKLE]

NOW. WHERE IS THE HUMAN BLOOD? I REQUIRE THE BLOOD OF HUMANS! IT KEEPS MY ACTUATORS SUPPLE!

[ROBOTIC CACKLE]

Posted by: Hillary! and Her Rainbow Exoskeleton at December 11, 2015 07:27 PM (rUc9h)

88 >>Jesse had a march on Black Friday down Michigan Ave but some more militant "youths" got pissed at him just wanting to stand in front of cameras so they broke off and they are now out there again. Shut down my neighborhood on Wednesday. Then they were going to march to Rahm's house until someone must have

The chickens are coming home to roost in all these Dem ruled cities. It really is a damn shame. Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, all great cities when I was a kid.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 11, 2015 07:27 PM (/tuJf)

89 Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:21 PM (TFCH1)

Having seen both, the situation the pastor was shown is not the same as the guy traipsing down the middle of the road with the cop moving toward him shooting.

And again it ain't that so much as that they themselves believed it was a bad shoot. Otherwise why did they try to cover it up? And erase camera footage?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:28 PM (Xo1Rt)

90 Well, a thug ain't going in front of the cameras and brag on how many people his pit bulls have killed and maimed, now is he?

Posted by: Eromero at December 11, 2015 07:28 PM (b+df9)

91 As John McEnroe would say "You can't be serious" about calling the Chicago shooting justified or excusable.

The cop lost it. You can say it was panic without the intent for murder, but it was inexcusable.

Hence the cover-up

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 11, 2015 07:28 PM (r1fLd)

92 The chickens are coming home to roost in all these Dem ruled cities.

Maybe they can get some Urban Renewal, Empowerment Zones or whatever buzzword is in fashion at the moment.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 07:29 PM (FkBIv)

93 But the main things are the
multiple shots after the guy was down and the cover up after. Oh and the
Lies that they told to cover up the cover up.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:26 PM (Xo1Rt)

yeah, but the reason the cop was in 21 feet of the guy was because he put himself within 21 feet of the guy. The cop and his partner drove right up to the guy, the cop opened the door to his car, and started firing.

the other cops on scene had corralled the guy and were trying to talk him down. There was no reason for such an aggressive maneuver with the police car, much less the shooting.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:30 PM (AkOaV)

94 Megyn Kelly also keeps asking: Why is Obama, who has gone to every mass shooting site, staying away from San Bernadino?

It's hard for Barry to say or doing anything when he's trying to whitewash the whole thing

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:30 PM (45oDG)

95 The cop lost it. You can say it was panic without the intent for murder, but it was inexcusable.

Hence the cover-up
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 11, 2015 07:28 PM (r1fLd)

he had the intent with each trigger pull.

one shot? he could possibly claim negligent discharge, or false sense of fear, or whatever. Maybe would be looking at manslaughter charges.

But cmon.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:31 PM (AkOaV)

96 Why is Obama, who has gone to every mass shooting site, staying away from San Bernadino?

He'll probably drop in on his was to or back from Hawaii.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 07:31 PM (FkBIv)

97 Anyway, the navy launched the USS Jackson. some are mad that it honors a past president, They want it to be the USS Jessie Jackson, but he is still alive.

Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2015 07:32 PM (T3Tpd)

98 97 Anyway, the navy launched the USS Jackson. some are mad that it honors a past president, They want it to be the USS Jessie Jackson, but he is still alive.
Posted by: Colin at December 11, 2015 07:32 PM (T3Tpd)

I agree. We should never honor any democrat presidents.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:33 PM (AkOaV)

99 Meanwhile, Obama's quiet as a ~~church~~mosquemouse.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 11, 2015 07:34 PM (oKE6c)

100 the other cops on scene had corralled the guy and were trying to talk him down.

No he was fleeing while waving a knife around.

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2015 07:34 PM (DL2i+)

101 This is well below my ability to care about I'm more concerned that apparently the GOP is going to work with the Democrats to give leagal standing and constitutional protections to foreigners.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2015 07:34 PM (qgbPQ)

102 3 Rham knows where the bath house boyz are buried.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at December 11, 2015 07:01 PM (7lqMl)

^^This.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2015 07:34 PM (sdi6R)

103 No he was fleeing while waving a knife around.
Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2015 07:34 PM (DL2i+)

did you watch the video?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:34 PM (AkOaV)

104 Compare the Baltimore Freddie Gray case where the police trials have started. Obama and his minions were all over that when the facts barely show potential negligence.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 11, 2015 07:35 PM (r1fLd)

105 Oh and btw, I agree with the decision made in Ferguson. Michael Brown was the aggressor and was an imminent danger.

And for the Baltimore thing; that may have been a tune up ride gone bad or the guy start to have a seizure because of drugs. So negligence but not murder. (and I think that Porter is going to get off.)

Some of the others are iffy and there's less to see about them no video conflicting reports.

Just to point out that I'm not a knee jerk anti cop guy. Each case is different. Each situation is different.

That said, generally, cops get away too often with no punishment because HQ is covering for themselves too.

There's no standards of training and no objective panel like say the NTSB (although they have had some questionable investigative results).

Police departments investigating themselves is ridiculous on its face. And that needs to be changed for the public to have any confidence in the cops again.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 07:36 PM (Xo1Rt)

106 he had the intent with each trigger pull.

one shot? he could possibly claim negligent discharge, or false sense of fear, or whatever. Maybe would be looking at manslaughter charges.

But cmon.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes
****

No, he lost it. I have seen other cases like it.
However, in those other cases they shot so badly they weren't even close to hitting the bad guy (30+ shots fired).
Manslaughter would have been a slam dunk. 1st degree? prob not.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 11, 2015 07:36 PM (hVdx9)

107 No, he lost it. I have seen other cases like it.

However, in those other cases they shot so badly they weren't even close to hitting the bad guy (30+ shots fired).

Manslaughter would have been a slam dunk. 1st degree? prob not.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at December 11, 2015 07:36 PM (hVdx9)

The state's attorney (the mob wants her head too) is a complete idiot. She couldn't direct traffic down a one way street

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:37 PM (45oDG)

108 >>the other cops on scene had corralled the guy and were trying to talk him down.

Yeah. Which reminds me, I saw an article I meant to read about how so many of these police shootings involve people who are mentally ill. So I respect cops who make an effort to try to asses the situation and use non violent solutions when possible which seems to be, properly, what everyone else was doing.

Posted by: Lea at December 11, 2015 07:37 PM (vmMMi)

109 >>>That silence interests me. Sometimes, what politicians avoid, what they won't say, is more compelling than their dog and pony shows and photo ops.

The hilldawg in the night didn't bark.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 11, 2015 07:38 PM (8Qx8I)

110 This is well below my ability to care about I'm more
concerned that apparently the GOP is going to work with the Democrats
to give leagal standing and constitutional protections to foreigners.

Posted by: Kreplach at December 11, 2015 07:34 PM (qgbPQ)

Local DC Establishment news!

Posted by: Hrothgar at December 11, 2015 07:38 PM (ftVQq)

111 #8 Late to the game but correction : Ball ends up in hole = rectum of Secret Service Agent banging beer cart girl in the trees

Posted by: Gregv61 at December 11, 2015 07:38 PM (L92R0)

112 Attorney Andrew Branca at Legal Insurrection covers this very thoughtfully, including the number of gunshots.

I will say that I was upset when I first saw the video, though I did realize that the young man was ready to fight (no surprise to learn he was on angel dust, which makes its users utterly lose all regard for danger). And Branca says it's VERY telling that the Chicago rulers, who have no love for cops, didn't bring Murder 1 charges a year ago: they must know that the policeman has a good case for justified use of force. Otherwise, why would they have held back? This is the kind of thing they're usually all over, like stink on a skunk.

Posted by: Beverly at December 11, 2015 07:38 PM (TFCH1)

113 How do you think Chicago cops between 1920 and 1970 would have handled the same scenario? Well you wouldn't have the exact scenario because they would have shot him long before the point in time he was shot in reality. Crap I answered my own question.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 11, 2015 07:38 PM (Yti03)

114 The stabby guy was turning his life around.

Posted by: U of Missou Snowflake at December 11, 2015 07:39 PM (Dwehj)

115 Their going for the feds to take oversight of city police departments, just like in every police shooting black choir boys only carrying groceries back to their home struck grandmothers.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2015 07:39 PM (k0xxN)

116 Obama wouldn't get involved in this mess if Rahm tried to jump the WH fence screaming for sanctuary.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 11, 2015 07:39 PM (BjNDx)

117 The deceased, Mc Donald was high on PCP aka "angel dust", caught breaking into, I think, a used car lot.

He brandished a knife when confronted by civilians, who then called 911.

All this happened in October of last year, right before the Chicago mayoral election.

Rahm and the city council approved paying the "family" of McDonald % million to shut up.

McDonald was a ward of the state, it turns out.

Now the black members of the city council, who approved the payout, dontnonuffin.

Anyone ever see someone all fu(ked up on PCP ?

They hulk out.

Posted by: seamrog at December 11, 2015 07:40 PM (dN45C)

118 So .... I ask yet again ...

... had enough yet ? Ready to go ahead and "join a tribe" ?

Posted by: Irony at December 11, 2015 07:40 PM (qmMG2)

119
"The old man's still an artist with a Thompson."

Name that movie! No cheating!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 11, 2015 07:41 PM (iQIUe)

120 Yeah. Which reminds me, I saw an article I meant to read about how so many of these police shootings involve people who are mentally ill. So I respect cops who make an effort to try to asses the situation and use non violent solutions when possible which seems to be, properly, what everyone else was doing.
Posted by: Lea at December 11, 2015 07:37 PM (vmMMi)

The cops should never escalate the violence. Should be the same as any other self defense shootings -- if you escalate the violence, you don't get to claim self defense.

Yes, if the suspect rushes you and you have a reasonable fear for your life, you can defend yourself.

But if you (the cop) is consistently escalating the violence without using your words to try to de-escalate, then you shoot someone because YOUR escalating makes you "in fear for your life" ... sorry, that's not self defense.

Yes, I understand we give cops more leeway to use violence to arrest people. But I really do think there is a ... unsettling indifference to human life among way too many cops, and WAY too many cops are willing to cover the ass of a cop who kills someone.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:41 PM (AkOaV)

121 How do you think Chicago cops between 1920 and 1970 would have handled the same scenario?

Lots of stuff pre Miranda and pre video.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 07:41 PM (FkBIv)

122 He just went to get some Skittles.

Posted by: U of Missou Snowflake at December 11, 2015 07:43 PM (Dwehj)

123 "The old man's still an artist with a Thompson."

Last Man Standing?

Posted by: fluffy at December 11, 2015 07:43 PM (AfsKp)

124 Rubio's other brother Darryl.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 07:43 PM (FkBIv)

125 Anyone ever see someone all fu(ked up on PCP ?

They hulk out.
Posted by: seamrog at December 11, 2015 07:40 PM (dN45C)

so what?

If this was a black-out drunk college kid acting like an idiot, would you still feel the same way?

We hire the cops to be the adults in the room. They're supposed to be the ones who act responsibly and maturely. Yes, they have to deal with drunk and drugged up people. Yes, they have to deal with the dregs of society.

But that's part of the job. We give them a lot of power, they need to exercise some responsibility.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:43 PM (AkOaV)

126 119
"The old man's still an artist with a Thompson."

Name that movie! No cheating!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 11, 2015 07:41 PM (iQIUe)

Miller's Crossing.

Posted by: AD at December 11, 2015 07:44 PM (vPrMW)

127 One problem I see with jihadists attacking Chicago is the criminal population is possibly better armed than a couple of jihadists, no matter what the law is saying.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2015 07:45 PM (k0xxN)

128 It seems like a certain candidate for the Republicans, who already has some goodwill among blacks, whom !jeb! and rubio for two have alienated, might be able to comment upon this.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2015 07:48 PM (lGYjh)

129 Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 11, 2015 07:41 PM (FkBIv)

Lots and lots. And that's the point I like to bring up in these discussions. Yes we still need to be vigilant and hold law enforcement accountable but it's night and day on how it used to be and it continues to get better. Unfortunately the over zealous calls for accountability and potential for false charges of misconduct have handcuffed (pun intended) law enforcement just a bit.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 11, 2015 07:48 PM (Yti03)

130 One problem I see with jihadists attacking Chicago
is the criminal population is possibly better armed than a couple of
jihadists, no matter what the law is saying.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2015 07:45 PM (k0xxN)

If they hit the south side the shoot out would be epic. Not that the "youths" ever hit what they are aiming for

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:49 PM (45oDG)

131 The old man's still an artist with a Thompson.

I've got a friend with a Thompson.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at December 11, 2015 07:50 PM (oVJmc)

132 127 One problem I see with jihadists attacking Chicago is the criminal population is possibly better armed than a couple of jihadists, no matter what the law is saying.

Posted by: Skip at December 11, 2015 07:45 PM (k0xxN)

It could be an updated and twisted version of the Jesse James gang vs. Northfield MN.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at December 11, 2015 07:50 PM (oKE6c)

133 A thread lightener

http://tinyurl.com/p38c5ks

Posted by: DaveA at December 11, 2015 07:50 PM (DL2i+)

134 nood

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:50 PM (AkOaV)

135 Chicago is a fucking union town. Black have are right, the cops really have given up on them. This is a 40 year old problem/solutions . Mayor Daily,Sr was the one to tell the cops in the 60's to shot to kill during the MLK riots. The riots ended. The South side is the home of Black racism, AKA Rev Wright and Obama, really Moochie.

Just saying, Chicago is a great town except for south side.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2015 07:51 PM (jJRIy)

136 There's no standards of training and no objective panel

That's because the US allows local self-government.

Calling for "Standards!" is what got you President Woodrow Wilson, and got us Prime Minister Clement Attlee.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at December 11, 2015 07:51 PM (lGYjh)

137 It seems like a certain candidate for the Republicans, who already has some goodwill among blacks, whom !jeb! and rubio for two have alienated, might be able to comment upon this.

The Rand Corporation that killed MLK?

Posted by: derit at December 11, 2015 07:52 PM (jT+gh)

138 Just saying, Chicago is a great town except for south side.

Posted by: Nip Sip at December 11, 2015 07:51 PM (jJRIy)

The west side is a shit hole too.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:52 PM (45oDG)

139 No one is claiming Trashy Malik's bullet riddled corpse.

No one wants to take responsibility for it.

Perhaps cremation. I've heard ashes make for a powerful toilet bowl cleaner.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 11, 2015 07:54 PM (4ErVI)

140 For rhetorical purposes, if Obama is a muslim and a traitor, how would his behavior be any different?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 11, 2015 07:55 PM (1ijHg)

141 For rhetorical purposes, if Obama is a muslim and a traitor, how would his behavior be any different?

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 11, 2015 07:55 PM (1ijHg)

Less gay?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 11, 2015 07:56 PM (45oDG)

142 125 harry p

Are you familiar with inner city youths that are thrown into the streets with no regard by their "family"?

They drug up so much that the reptilian base of the brain takes over.

No comparison to a "drunk college kid"

apples and oranges.

Posted by: seamrog at December 11, 2015 07:56 PM (dN45C)

143 Shit! That was fast.

I am accustomed to responses much later that this.

Lefties and Muzzies share a common enemy: America.

Posted by: Grampa Jimbo at December 11, 2015 07:57 PM (1ijHg)

144 120
But I really do think there is a ... unsettling indifference to human life among way too many cops

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 11, 2015 07:41 PM (AkOaV)

Canine life, too.

Posted by: rickl at December 11, 2015 07:58 PM (sdi6R)

145 Compare the 1999 41 Shots case in The Bronx.

The four cops were part of an anti-crime unit who were looking for a serial rapist. They spotted Abner Diallo who matched the description. Getting out of their car, the police yelled "Police."

The tragedy was that Diallo was an African immigrant with little English. Any native-born Bronx resident would know that four white guys jumping out of a car brandishing guns would have to be the po-po, not a stick-up crew.

Thinking he was being robbed, Diallo reached for his wallet. The police panicked and shot.

The Black Bronx DA indicted for murder. What saved the cops was a change of venue to upstate New York and their getting on the stand and crying over their regret.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 11, 2015 08:01 PM (r1fLd)

146 So Obama hypes Ferguson to the point of riot, no doubt knowing the cop is innocent and Brown a criminal. Holder tries to suppress the video revealing Brown shoving the Indian.

But Rahm suppresses a real cop murder for a year, till he gets past the election. Obama barely knows it happened.

Benghazi, the rapid withdrawal from Iraq, the start of the caliphate ... but Obama sticks with "al Qaeda is on the run, bin Laden is dead, GM is alive"

The whole country had to go through this just to learn what an anti-American liar Obama is? Do they still think Hillary is any better?

Posted by: Illiniwek at December 11, 2015 08:02 PM (26Yu7)

147 "Not that the [Chicago] "youths" ever hit what they are aiming for"

Chicago has had 460 murders in 2015, on 2820 shootings (16%)

Baltimore, a much smaller city has had 326 murders in 2015, but on far fewer shootings.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 11, 2015 08:14 PM (r1fLd)

148 The jihadis won't be attacking the South Side.

They'll pick some place maybe like the University of Chicago or one of the Museums.

Those are most likely Gun Free Zones and thus give them the most opportunity with the least immediate response.

There's some pretty hairy places around San Berdoo but they didn't pick one of those to shoot up.

And Chicago is one of the largest cities in the world as far as size goes.

Lots of targets not so many cops. And no concealed carry (well almost none) legally especially where they'll probably be aiming at.

People need to wake up to reality and not wishful thinking.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at December 11, 2015 08:32 PM (Xo1Rt)

149 It's San Bernardino not San Bernadino. Two "r's. Thanks.

Posted by: rrpjr at December 11, 2015 08:56 PM (s/yC1)

150 Yeah. Where's Obama's "If I had a son he would look like Syed" speech?

Posted by: Mike at December 11, 2015 09:28 PM (1d6Un)

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