Voter Asks Hillary Clinton if Juanita Broaderick Should Be Believed, If All Women Are to Be Believed About Rape

“You recently came out to say that all rape victims should be believed? But would you say that about Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, and Paula Jones? Should we believe them as well?” the audience member asked.
“Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence,” Clinton said, drawing applause.

She then grins and nods, her witch's cackle half-suppressed.

Several problems with that answer:

1. At what point did Hillary believe these women?

2. What "evidence" has disproved their claims? I mean, apart from Hilary's and Syd Blumenthal's smears and whispering campaigns.

Video at the link.

Posted by: Ace at 04:26 PM

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1 I guess she thinks she still needs him.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 03, 2015 04:27 PM (iQIUe)

2 That's what I've been saying!

Posted by: A Bear at December 03, 2015 04:27 PM (vgIRn)

3 "Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence"

Excellent. Throw CAIR out of the country.

Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands at December 03, 2015 04:28 PM (3ZtZW)

4 I'm glad some of these questions are getting asked and seeing the light of day.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2015 04:28 PM (oFSUK)

5 (1) She knew from the beginning.

(2) not disproved. Just inconvenient.

Posted by: Qoheleth at December 03, 2015 04:28 PM (iIzG7)

6 should've gone with the 'Whoopi Defense' -

'well, it wasn't "rape" rape.'

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at December 03, 2015 04:29 PM (27KAF)

7 Followed by every politician, beginning with yourself, Hillary

Then we can get down to the real business.

Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands at December 03, 2015 04:29 PM (3ZtZW)

8 Speculation on Twitter that her Yglesias-eating grin is due to the fact that this was a planted question.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (Xd2w5)

9 This is another plant, asking the question to get it out of the way and make it "old news". Her answer sounds focus-grouped to me.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (kXzR8)

10 OT (kind of) repost from the last thread.

Jew shaming. "Look at the way he dressed! He was asking for it."

http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/ california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (3dOE/)

11 How come when I show up, it's a Hillery thread? I feel unsafe.

Posted by: dogfish at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (0O2Lr)

12 So she's saying, guilty until proven innocent.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (/f6Nd)

13 Broaderick was just askin' for it by wearing clothing and jewelry and stuff.

Posted by: 13times at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (WHVu+)

14 At the time, a careful evaluation was made as to which truth would best further the Left's agenda. At that point, the claims were proved false.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (IN7k+)

15 She's known that question was coming for a long time.

Also -- EO on guns by Obama? Any reading yet on big deal, not a big deal, or time to buy a minivan full of ammo big deal?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (AkOaV)

16 So, she wants to be the leader of the free (for now) world, and thinks someone should be considered guilty until proven innocent?!? LOL

Posted by: db at December 03, 2015 04:31 PM (kl5QR)

17 "until they are disbelieved based on evidence"

What about the 12-year old Arkansas girl, who was savagely raped, who Hillary ravaged on the stand. Hillary got the semen soaked panties thrown out on a chain of custody technicality. On tape Hillary said the rapist was guilty but cackled over getting him off.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 04:31 PM (r1fLd)

18 I'm just amazed that someone had the balls to ask!! Wow! I truly did not see that coming.

Posted by: madamemayhem at December 03, 2015 04:31 PM (WPm3x)

19 9
This is another plant, asking the question to get it out of the way and make it "old news". Her answer sounds focus-grouped to me.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (kXzR

You are more than likely right. No way would she allow uncontrolled questions from a potential hostile audience.

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 03, 2015 04:32 PM (3dOE/)

20 What evidence? Didn't one of the women even describe his dick in detail?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 04:32 PM (/tuJf)

21 Also -- EO on guns by Obama? Any reading yet on big deal, not a big deal, or time to buy a minivan full of ammo big deal?
---------------
I've been wondering about this all day... I may go put a couple of things on layaway. (paperwork up front)

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at December 03, 2015 04:32 PM (kXzR8)

22 Hillary! there was plenty of evidence showing bill was guilty.... On the OT/ does this mean they are somehow going to blame the Jew?

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:32 PM (/dSsq)

23 Blue dress made her a believer of pants to the ground.

A few well thrown ash trays and lamps lead to suspicion that she had some disbelief.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at December 03, 2015 04:33 PM (Mopd7)

24 That phrasing really is the definition of "guilty until proven innocent."

Posted by: Serious Cat at December 03, 2015 04:33 PM (UypUQ)

25 I think the speculation is based on the fact that you can't get in to see anyone who gets in to see Hillary unless you've passed a more extensive background check than the Joint Chiefs.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2015 04:33 PM (Xd2w5)

26 21 What evidence? Didn't one of the women even describe his dick in detail?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 04:32 PM (/tuJf)

Yes. and IIRC, a military doctor had to examine the presidents dick and write a report on it.

Heh.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:33 PM (AkOaV)

27 When faced with a hard question, Hillary looks into her toolbox and pulls out her well worn favorite, the lie.

Posted by: maddogg at December 03, 2015 04:33 PM (xWW96)

28 >>>She then grins and nods, her witch's cackle half-suppressed.

And then her head kind of bobbles, and she looks so very elderly.

Posted by: m at December 03, 2015 04:34 PM (d4uu4)

29 28 When faced with a hard question, Hillary looks into her toolbox and pulls out her well worn favorite, the lie.
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When all you have is a hammer...

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at December 03, 2015 04:34 PM (kXzR8)

30 1 I guess she thinks she still needs him.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at December 03,

Just imagined what she would have been or would've accomplished had she not stood by her man. Just another bitter lesbian practicing law in Jolliet, IL I suspect

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 03, 2015 04:34 PM (oFSUK)

31 I've been wondering about this all day... I may go put a couple of things on layaway. (paperwork up front)
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at December 03, 2015 04:32 PM (kXzR

It's all very ... vague ... so far.

I'm not sure how he is going to 'close a loophole' that would require a new law be passed.

Because the fed gov, in theory, has no idea who owns what if anything. All they know is who has had a background check done, and that info is supposed to be retained by the FFLs, not the govt iirc.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:35 PM (AkOaV)

32 The EO concerns the gun show "loophole".

Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:35 PM (l/N7H)

33 She probably figures the questioner was a Republican plant. But they aren't that smart.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 03, 2015 04:35 PM (t2KH5)

34 10 OT (kind of) repost from the last thread.

Jew shaming. "Look at the way he dressed! He was asking for it."

http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/ california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (3dOE/)

*********

I wonder if this guy was on to the mass murderer.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 04:35 PM (mcm0N)

35 23
Hillary! there was plenty of evidence showing bill was guilty.... On the OT/ does this mean they are somehow going to blame the Jew?

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:32 PM (/dSsq)

Is there any other reason for dragging a dead guy's name through the mud?

"One of the victims of the San Bernardino massacrewas a Messianic Jew who filled his Facebook page with condemnations of Muslims and impassioned screeds against jihadist terror."

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 03, 2015 04:35 PM (3dOE/)

36 Hilary Clinton is as appealing as a poisonous pile of porcupine poop.

Posted by: madamemayhem (pointing and laughing at dems) at December 03, 2015 04:36 PM (WPm3x)

37 32 The EO concerns the gun show "loophole".
Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:35 PM (l/N7H)

But how do you craft an EO (or a law even) to close that "loophole."

Theoretically, no one should know where my firearm came from unless they trace the serial number back to a gun shop, correct?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:36 PM (AkOaV)

38 Is there any other reason for dragging a dead guy's name through the mud?

"One of the victims of the San Bernardino massacrewas a Messianic Jew who filled his Facebook page with condemnations of Muslims and impassioned screeds against jihadist terror."

Just sickening...

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:36 PM (/dSsq)

39 1. I love that I can't quote stuff ace posts on his own blog without getting an error.

2. So many things on the actual topic, but mostly that the entire problem is that we have a number of people who the evidence actively shows were not guilty (post 'rape' texts, roommate testimony, etc) who are getting hammered for things they clearly didn't' do. Nobody had a problem with the idea of believing people's claims who are supported by evidence...

Posted by: Lea at December 03, 2015 04:37 PM (lIU4e)

40 "One of the victims of the San Bernardino massacrewas a Messianic Jew who filled his Facebook page with condemnations of Muslims and impassioned screeds against jihadist terror."

In San Bernandino, I think that would make him an early adopter?

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at December 03, 2015 04:37 PM (kXzR8)

41 It depends what the meaning of is, is...

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:37 PM (/dSsq)

42 No evidence has disproven Juanita Broaderick and Kathleen Willey and since most of her supporters don't even know who they are, the fact no evidence has disproven them won't mean a damn, at least in the short term (I wonder if they could still sue for this, though).

This will cause people who hear about it to know who Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaderick are though and maybe learn of the accusations--so at least there's that.

Posted by: AD at December 03, 2015 04:37 PM (5/paf)

43
Her answer conflicts with her previous statement that put no conditions whatsoever on believing women claiming rape.

So much so that her previous statement is made null.

Secondly, this is the reverse of law in America, its innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until we find out the woman is a liar.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 03, 2015 04:38 PM (ODxAs)

44 What about the 12-year old Arkansas girl, who was
savagely raped, who Hillary ravaged on the stand. Hillary got the semen
soaked panties thrown out on a chain of custody technicality. On tape
Hillary said the rapist was guilty but cackled over getting him off.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 04:31 PM (r1fLd)

Dante's "Inferno" needs to be re-written to include the circle of hell where Democratic politicians reside.

Posted by: pookysgirl at December 03, 2015 04:38 PM (K27gs)

45 Hillary then turned to the flying monkey at her side and said 'take care of that one.'

Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2015 04:38 PM (OZmbA)

46 Oh wow CNN is busy trying to shape the narrative.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 04:38 PM (mcm0N)

47 That's probably why nothing has passed. The loophole is a pesky little problem just won't go away gosh darn it!! How DO you even begin to write a law concerning that?

Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:39 PM (l/N7H)

48 Yes. and IIRC, a military doctor had to examine the presidents dick and write a report on it.

Is The Crank Report available on Amazon?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 04:39 PM (FkBIv)

49 Maybe he will ban gun shows.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:39 PM (l/N7H)

50 Maybe he will ban gun shows.

Better if He bans those icky guns...

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (/dSsq)

51 Better hope Hilary doesn't win.

Posted by: IRS at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (LYCUN)

52 47 That's probably why nothing has passed. The loophole is a pesky little problem just won't go away gosh darn it!! How DO you even begin to write a law concerning that?
Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:39 PM (l/N7H)

It seems entirely unenforceable.

"all transfers need to go through an FFL"

Then I sell my gun to my brother. Who would ever know? How would they ever know? How would they even know I DIDN'T do an FFL transfer?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (AkOaV)

53 Yeah that sounds completely planted and controlled. Now she will be able to ignore the issue, thanks to the MFM's perfidy.

They never will bring up the girl she trashed in court.

Confront the press, with documentation.

Don't treat them like friends - don't trust them, record all your interactions with them.

Don't use them if you don't have to. An interview may seem cheaper than an ad, but it's probably not.

Expose their lies, document them, bring it up whenever they go after you.

It will be incredibly hard work but this political machine has to be dismantled or it will literally kill the country.

The MFM is basically billions in in-kind donations to one party.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (bLnSU)

54 "Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence," Clinton said, drawing applause.

"Drawing applause." Touche, Madame Clinton. You dispatched an impertinent question about your husband's rape of a non-person with the wiliest of bon mots!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (8ZskC)

55 Guilty until proven innocent, in other words. Which happens to be completely consistent with her gun proposal as well. Seems to be a theme.

Posted by: Dave S. at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (mhkbv)

56 impassioned screeds against jihadist terror.

Is there something wrong with that? Is the NYPost writing impassioned screeds in support of jihadist terror???

Sounds like the dead guy (RIP) was on the money.

Posted by: Lea at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (lIU4e)

57 I think the proof that the question was planted was that she was actually able to answer it. It's a stupid answer that would only sound smart to true believers and dopes, but it's an answer. If not prepped, she would have stammered, turned red, and gotten that deer-in-the-headlights look that she gets.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (/f6Nd)

58 Maybe he will ban gun shows.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:39 PM

The only sure solution is to ban Islam.

Won't even violate the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (dbC6X)

59
Whoever that girl is... I want to give her a medal. Awesome that she got through Hillary's protective layer to ask that.

And the smile on Hillary's face after her (rehearsed) answer still can't hide the flames of rage coming from her eyes

Posted by: dan-O at December 03, 2015 04:41 PM (ByqK7)

60 Because the fed gov, in theory, has no idea who owns what if anything. All they know is who has had a background check done, and that info is supposed to be retained by the FFLs, not the govt iirc.

===

And, if they did, announce a National Swap-a-Gun Day. All they track is numbers anyhoo

Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands at December 03, 2015 04:41 PM (3ZtZW)

61 Hillary, "Huma! Dammit Huma, who screened that infiltrator? I want them dead! I want their families dead! I want their neighbors dead!"

Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at December 03, 2015 04:41 PM (BZAd3)

62 Guilty until proven innocent. Why did she get a law degree? Why was she able to get a law degree if she is a f*cking imbecile?

I realize she graduated Huma Cums Loudly at Wellesley, but this was in soft subjects, not like computer science or anything.

People saying that she is smart need to shut the f*ck up.

She is an imbecile. Please, let's not try to downplay that fact.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 04:41 PM (E5UB0)

63 49 Maybe he will ban gun shows.
Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:39 PM (l/N7H)

Okay, but how do you do THAT?

How do you write that law that doesn't open a bunch of new loopholes?

"FFL's can only sell firearms at their officially registered address" ? But then what stops me and a few buddies from getting an FFL, renting some space and calling it a "gun consignment shop" and running it just like a gun show?

I just... anyways, not worth worrying about

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:42 PM (AkOaV)

64 35 rf

"Messianic Jew" aka Christian (NTTAWWT).

Posted by: speedster1 at December 03, 2015 04:42 PM (1brdf)

65 If not prepped, she would have stammered, turned red, and gotten that deer-in-the-headlights look that she gets.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM

Not necessarily. Shrillery's good at lying on the fly.

What saves her is not the question or preparation for it, but her audiences and the MFM. The audience applauded; so will the MFM.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2015 04:42 PM (dbC6X)

66 Paula Jones described Slick Willy's crooked dick.

Posted by: steevy at December 03, 2015 04:42 PM (8HTq1)

67 Totally agree Harry. It's not possible to enforce. But I guess it makes it look like O'Bammy is doing SOMETHING.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (l/N7H)

68 And, if they did, announce a National Swap-a-Gun Day. All they track is numbers anyhoo

A couple years back they had on of those gun swaps in My area... What a joke... They gave you a 100 dollar grocery gift certificate....All they got was a bunch of in-operable pieces of junk...

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (/dSsq)

69 Paula Jones described Slick Willy's crooked dick.

Last time I saw it, it wasn't crooked.

Case closed.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (8ZskC)

70 46 Oh wow CNN is busy trying to shape the narrative.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 04:38 PM (mcm0N)

Why does the phrase "shape the narrative" remind me of this....
several years ago I watched Joan Rivers do a show on tv. She had this bit about putting on a bra. Putting in on around her ankles and pulling "every damned thing up to the chest so it looks like I have tits. Yes, those are my knee caps. Piss off! Oh, grow up!"

Posted by: madamemayhem (pointing and laughing at dems) at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (WPm3x)

71 "http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/ california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/ "

Well, obviously he deserved to be murdered then!

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (Z/8dZ)

72 A couple years back they had on of those gun swaps in My area... What a joke... They gave you a 100 dollar grocery gift certificate....All they got was a bunch of in-operable pieces of junk...
Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (/dSsq)

I remember reading -- and I don't know if it's true or not -- that a couple of gun guys went to one of those gun buy backs and were offering people cash in the parking lot for their guns. Heh.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:44 PM (AkOaV)

73 71 "http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/ california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/ "

Well, obviously he deserved to be murdered then!
Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (Z/8dZ)

See, there was a rationale for killing all those people!

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:44 PM (/dSsq)

74 How would they even know I DIDN'T do an FFL transfer?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:40 PM (AkOaV)

They keep all the records as a form of registration. The goal is to confiscate anything that's not registered under the assumption that it was an illegal transfer, but that's a couple steps down the Control Freak Totalitarian Government road.

Much easier to control the law-abiding than the criminal, that's why your life gets destroyed if *you* end up in court for *anything*, but the street thug who mugs you gets two years of job training by other criminals before going back on the street.

You're just easier to control.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 03, 2015 04:45 PM (bLnSU)

75 "Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence," Clinton said, drawing applause.

And no follow up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 04:45 PM (FkBIv)

76 Then I sell my gun to my brother. Who would ever know? How would they ever know? How would they even know I DIDN'T do an FFL transfer?

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They'll announce a [broken] Federal website where you can "securely" record transfers of firearms from one to another, and acknowledge receipt of same, which transaction will provide you with a printed out record of transfer.

It'll be entirely voluntary, but if you're found to have a gun not yours it'll be the only legal way to establish you didn't steal it.

Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands at December 03, 2015 04:45 PM (3ZtZW)

77 75 "Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence," Clinton said, drawing applause.

And no follow up.

Can You say set up? Someone should do a little research on the questioner...

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:46 PM (/dSsq)

78 72
A couple years back they had on of those gun swaps in My area... What a joke... They gave you a 100 dollar grocery gift certificate....All they got was a bunch of in-operable pieces of junk...

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:43 PM (/dSsq)

I remember reading -- and I don't know if it's true or not -- that a couple of gun guys went to one of those gun buy backs and were offering people cash in the parking lot for their guns. Heh.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:44 PM (AkOaV)

True. That was here in Seattle. We got I-594 (background checks on private trasnfers) for our efforts. Assholes (Bloomberg and Paul Allen).

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 03, 2015 04:47 PM (3dOE/)

79 Part of me wants to see them actually enforce a full gun registration and then piss their pants when they realize the number isn't 300 million but 750 million.

Almost all of me just wants a little sanity and knows I won't get it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 03, 2015 04:47 PM (bLnSU)

80 The question was planted.

Note how quickly the pat lawyerly answer happened, note how she knows she's done, the mic back in the lap, because the questioner was told to do it with no followup, note how readily she beams out the smile in appreciation for the expected applause.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at December 03, 2015 04:47 PM (U6f54)

81 They'll announce a [broken] Federal website where you can "securely" record transfers of firearms from one to another, and acknowledge receipt of same, which transaction will provide you with a printed out record of transfer.

It'll be entirely voluntary, but if you're found to have a gun not yours it'll be the only legal way to establish you didn't steal it.
Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands

And the best part is that the nonfunctional website will be built by a company run by a college friend of mine for about $1 Billion.

Posted by: Moochelle, FLOTUS at December 03, 2015 04:47 PM (/FOB4)

82 the audience must have been trained seals. who would applaud that shit? time to start clubbing seals again.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 03, 2015 04:47 PM (ucDmr)

83 A couple years back they had on of those gun swaps in My area... What a joke...

===

Not what I meant. Swap amongst gun owners. Trade ya an AK for an M4gery kinda thing.

Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands at December 03, 2015 04:47 PM (3ZtZW)

84 KGB Major: Do you want to see me?

Colonel Ernesto Bella: "Yes... yes. Go to the sporting goods store. From the files obtain forms 4473. These will contain descriptions of weapons, and lists of private ownership."

- Red Dawn

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at December 03, 2015 04:48 PM (kXzR8)

85 So it seems that while I was on the road yesterday, yet another muslim atrocity took place. Guess I ought to stay off the roads, eh? Fourteen hours, going home the long way around, 12 of them in the dark. Roads were bare and dry all the way, though, no difficulties. Just long.

We should start using the term "muslim atrocity" every time a jihadi kills somebody. Hang this shit on muslims.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 03, 2015 04:48 PM (+y3Tj)

86 74
You're just easier to control.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 03, 2015 04:45 PM (bLnSU)

For now.

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 03, 2015 04:48 PM (3dOE/)

87 Whoever asked that question needs to watch his back lest he get Vince Fostered.

Posted by: Tronald Dump at December 03, 2015 04:49 PM (oDFTq)

88 Speculation on Twitter that her Yglesias-eating grin is due to the fact that this was a planted question.
Posted by: AmishDude

Since there was no follow up question, I would have to agree.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 04:49 PM (FZxI4)

89 CNN keeps rerunning the clips of Obama after every mass shooting--so essentially this event gets grouped with all of those. It's like Sesame Street.

Basically its absolving the federal government of blame for this incident ahead of the FBI investigation results. They do a bit of a disclaimer at the end, but ...it's still producing the news for the audience to leap to certain conclusions.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 04:49 PM (mcm0N)

90 Blumenthal was actually on the phone with a WaPo editor pushing the "psychotic crazed obsessed lying stalker slut" line about Monica Lewinsky at the very moment news broke that she saved the blue dress.

Posted by: Adjoran at December 03, 2015 04:49 PM (QIQ6j)

91 OK gotta go

Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands at December 03, 2015 04:50 PM (3ZtZW)

92 Whoever asked that question needs to watch his back lest he get Vince Fostered.
Posted by: Tronald Dump

She's probably on the Hillary team.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 04:50 PM (FkBIv)

93 So let me get this straight. If a Muslim rants and raves about Christians and Jews on facebook, it's free speech and you can't touch him. But if a Jew rants about Muslims and then gets killed by one, well....what do you expect?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 03, 2015 04:50 PM (sgf9A)

94 >>>45 Hillary then turned to the flying monkey at her side and said 'take care of that one.'
Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2015 04:38 PM (OZmbA)

!!!

Posted by: m at December 03, 2015 04:50 PM (d4uu4)

95 I'll be taking any follow-up questions tonight in Ft. Marcy Park.

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (8ZskC)

96 It'll be entirely voluntary, but if you're found to have a gun not yours it'll be the only legal way to establish you didn't steal it.
Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands at December 03, 2015 04:45 PM (3ZtZW)

But what about all the guns out there that were pre-background check?

Which is... well, a lot of guns. Like when my grandfather died, I got some of his firearms. Most were from the '70s or earlier. I doubt they are in a database anywhere.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (AkOaV)

97 93 So let me get this straight. If a Muslim rants and raves about Christians and Jews on facebook, it's free speech and you can't touch him. But if a Jew rants about Muslims and then gets killed by one, well....what do you expect?

Seems so...

Posted by: donna at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (/dSsq)

98 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (GwIKd)

99 It'll be entirely voluntary, but if you're found to have a gun not yours it'll be the only legal way to establish you didn't steal it.
Posted by: Bigby's Flag-Wavin' Hands

It's called a register sales receipt. Sorry. No dice.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (FZxI4)

100 Why does CNN keep saying that the husband was radicalized? The wife was standing right beside him blazing away, that sounds kinda radical to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (/tuJf)

101 A Denver High School on lockdown. Police swarming the spot. (FBN)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (FkBIv)

102
She then grins and nods, her witch's cackle half-suppressed.

Was that before or after the questioner was tased and frogmarched out of the room?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (o98Jz)

103 Obama has signaled his intent to issue an Executive Order to expand background checks to close by the so-called private sale loophole by creating a definition of "gun dealer" which isn't expressly defined by the background check statute. This may or may not be a big deal depending on how "gun dealer" is defined. 50 sales a year? One or two? While Obama's authority to issue an EO on this is dubious, if you violate the EO you're at risk of being a felon.

I have feared that Obama will go further and add the No Fly List to the background check process with an Executive Order. He and his minions have certainly been hinting at this. Obama wants to box the Republicans: "Do you really want to allow terrorists to buy guns?" This will raise a sh*t storm as the No Fly List already tramples on civil liberties and due process.

In the real world, our "common sense" background check system is ineffectual at stopping bad people from getting guns. Its only benefit is that the FBI releases the number of background checks it runs each month which shows the pace of gun sales for the entire nation. They've been way up under Obama. Best gun salesman ever!

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (r1fLd)

104 Hillary doesn't remember those names. Her long-term alcohol-besotted memory died on the day Bill Clinton popped her cherry.

Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2015 04:52 PM (UzPAd)

105 if hillary is elected, i'm joining isis. might as well go all in.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 03, 2015 04:53 PM (ucDmr)

106 Why does CNN keep saying that the husband was radicalized? The wife was standing right beside him blazing away, that sounds kinda radical to me.

Mutual self-radicalization. It's the latest thing with all the kids.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 03, 2015 04:53 PM (8ZskC)

107 Hillary is a large woman, i bet she flies around on 2 brooms.....

Posted by: Yo! at December 03, 2015 04:53 PM (GwIKd)

108 The people in her audience are the same kind of people who weren't bothered by Ted Kennedy driving a young girl into a body of water, getting out, then leaving her to drown for 9 hours while he hid out with his pals, trying to figure out how to save his political career. If democrats and liberals aren't bothered by a Kennedy coward leaving a woman to die, why would they be bothered by Clinton allegedly raping a few victims. I used the word victims because, as horny as Bubba is, there's no telling where that dick has been.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2015 04:53 PM (kGrwF)

109 What we need is common sense president control.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at December 03, 2015 04:53 PM (FkBIv)

110 I assume no follow up was allowed.

Posted by: Grump928(c) remembers 5th grade rhymes at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (evdj2)

111 Obama has signaled his intent to issue an Executive Order to expand background checks to close by the so-called private sale loophole by creating a definition of "gun dealer" which isn't expressly defined by the background check statute. This may or may not be a big deal depending on how "gun dealer" is defined. 50 sales a year? One or two?

If I'm a dealer at one or two, I demand wholesale price and shipping to my door.

After all, I'm now a dealer.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (FZxI4)

112 I want some to has her about Bill's Timeshare on Pedo Island.

Posted by: Grump928(c) remembers 5th grade rhymes at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (evdj2)

113 "Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence,Clinton said, drawing applause."

Deepak Chopra is that you?

Posted by: Bulls**t or Profound Test Subject at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (vivhj)

114 "A Denver High School on lockdown. Police swarming the spot. (FBN)"

Hopefully just a false alarm.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (Kqit+)

115 100 Why does CNN keep saying that the husband was radicalized? The wife was standing right beside him blazing away, that sounds kinda radical to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (/tuJf)

-**********

Ya--it's stupid as Yglesias.

Posted by: Danube River Guide at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (mcm0N)

116 Mutual self-radicalization. It's the latest thing with all the kids.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)

And I'm proud to have been the first public official to promote it as an effective from of birth control.

Posted by: Dr. Jocelyn Elders at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (/FOB4)

117 Senate vote coming up on Toomey/Manchin amendment (which was defeated in 2013) that would require background checks on all private firearm sales, which would be worthless without a national firearm registry.

Posted by: db at December 03, 2015 04:55 PM (kl5QR)

118 This notion of "believing the accuser" comes out of our stupid therapy society.

A therapist is supposed to believe the accuser.

Law enforcement should not.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2015 04:55 PM (Xd2w5)

119 "FFL's can only sell firearms at their officially
registered address" ? But then what stops me and a few buddies from
getting an FFL, renting some space and calling it a "gun consignment
shop" and running it just like a gun show?

I just... anyways, not worth worrying about

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 03, 2015 04:42 PM (AkOaV)

My younger brother used to have an FFL. The law is very specific on what kind of building is required for the sale of guns.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 03, 2015 04:55 PM (t2KH5)

120 I thought every rape victim was telling the truth?

Isn't that the line that was put out during the UVA case, Mattress Whore and others??

Posted by: Blano at December 03, 2015 04:56 PM (rkBpl)

121 Hillary could be caught on video ripping out the still-beating heart of a fetus and ravenously devouring it...and most of the media would say "Red really is her color, isn't it?"

Posted by: proudvastrightwingconspirator at December 03, 2015 04:57 PM (uwRNQ)

122 I can't find anything on the news sites for his latest BS EO. He already issued one EO on guns in 2013.

My thought is these EOs he is doing are illegal but who is going to sop him? Certainly not the Party of Sh*t.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at December 03, 2015 04:57 PM (t2KH5)

123 Every major figure that has accused Bill of having a sexual relationship, ended up being true after every attempt to discredit and smear them.

I hope we nominate a Republican with the balls to call out Hillary as an enabler for Bill to be a sexual predator.

Posted by: Coolio at December 03, 2015 04:57 PM (XOU+F)

124 http://nypost.com/2015/12/03/ california-massacre-victim-ranted-about-muslims-on-facebook/
---------------

I read something earlier today where a co-worker said that this man was in an argument recently with the killer about Islam, with the killer trying to convince him that Islam was misunderstood in America and that it was in fact a peaceful religion.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at December 03, 2015 04:58 PM (GH58g)

125 Madame Clinton, how would you feel if your daughter Chelsea, at the age of 22, was approached by the CEO of her company and asked to perform oral sex in the office?

Do you feel that this would be sexual harassment and demeaning to your daughter as a woman.

Posted by: No reporter ever at December 03, 2015 04:58 PM (k8tEg)

126 >>>Clinton said, drawing applause.

idk, the seals didn't sound too enthused. Hillary is dumb to play this game. it's her Romneycare. probably best to run her booze hole about other stuff.

Posted by: x at December 03, 2015 04:58 PM (57fhp)

127 >>I can't find anything on the news sites for his latest BS EO. He already issued one EO on guns in 2013.

Drudge has the link. Top right hand corner.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 03, 2015 04:58 PM (/tuJf)

128 I'd say the fact that the question was even asked is a Bid Deal.

No one was asking Hillary about this sort of thing in 2008.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 04:58 PM (NOIQH)

129
17 "until they are disbelieved based on evidence"

What about the 12-year old Arkansas girl, who was savagely raped, who Hillary ravaged on the stand. Hillary got the semen soaked panties thrown out on a chain of custody technicality. On tape Hillary said the rapist was guilty but cackled over getting him off.

What is great about a potential Trump v Clinton in the general, is he not above making this sort of attack against her.

Posted by: other joe_mama at December 03, 2015 04:58 PM (13W9U)

130 Here's my question to Don Lemon and Matt Lauer and the dude looks like a lady at MSNBC: If GW Bush were president he would be blamed to no end for every terrorism attack on our soil, and for the ongoing killing and beheading in Syria/Iraq. It would be GWB's fault 24/7 on all the nets and cables.

Why the hell is not all this shit Jugears's fault?? Hmmmmm?

Posted by: Sphynx at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (OZmbA)

131 Hillary doesn't remember those names. Her long-term alcohol-besotted memory died on the day Bill Clinton popped her cherry.

Posted by: Fritz at December 03, 2015 04:52 PM (UzPAd)

Hillary was a wild child of the 60s. Something tells me Bill didn't get there first.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (t06LC)

132 " that would require background checks on all private firearm sales, which would be worthless without a national firearm registry."

If those assholes sell us out because some muslim decided to go bang bang...

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (Kqit+)

133 Followup question:

"Mrs. Clinton, if Paula Jones is a woman whose claims should be 'disbelieved based upon evidence", as you say, then why did your husband pay Ms. Jones eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars in an out of court settlement?"

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (noWW6)

134 12 So she's saying, guilty until proven innocent.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 03, 2015 04:30 PM (/f6Nd)

This is what Dershowitz has been grumbling about.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (kGrwF)

135 Hairy Reed has never disproven that he is a child molester.

Posted by: No reporter ever at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (k8tEg)

136 A Denver High School on lockdown. Police swarming the spot. (FBN)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.

An armed patient in for an appointment held a nurse hostage by gun at the Denver VA this morning. Once VA Police were alerted, they quickly subdued the guy and he was arrested.

Posted by: Cheri at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (oiNtH)

137 the killer trying to convince him that Islam was misunderstood in America and that it was in fact a peaceful religion.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater

How dare you say Islam is not peaceful! I keel you!

Posted by: Mohammad al Achmed bin Mohammad at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (/FOB4)

138 118
This notion of "believing the accuser" comes out of our stupid therapy society.

A therapist is supposed to believe the accuser.

Law enforcement should not.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 03, 2015 04:55 PM (Xd2w5)

Oddly so is the scold du jour, "gender is a social construct." It stems from psychology and sociology in the '40s, whereas before, "gender" was synonymous with biological sex. Check OED.

Posted by: rebel flounder at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (3dOE/)

139 Follow up question should have been :

So do you believe that the accused should be presumed guilty until found innocent?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (jl269)

140 Hillary's confused again. Someone please explain to her it's not Matthew Broaddrick, Coach Riley, and John Paul Jones who fingered her husband.

Posted by: derit at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (jT+gh)

141 Has Huma Abadein disproven that despite her mother and brother being members of the Muslim Brotherhood, she has no loyalty to that organization?

Posted by: No reporter ever at December 03, 2015 05:00 PM (k8tEg)

142
"Innocence" and "Guilt" are nebulous constructs based upon perceptions of fluctuating societal "norms".

...wait, which thread are we in?

No matter. As I amass all bounds of Reality's facets, I shall release judgment as I see fit.

-Queen of All Intellectual Bullshit

Posted by: Slapweasel (Cold1) (T) at December 03, 2015 05:00 PM (OQ9R7)

143 Listened to the clip a couple of times. I vote for Clinton campaign plant. The questioner mispronounced two names, as if she was reading from a cue card and not really familiar with the women in question.

John-ita Broderick (not Juanita)

and

Kathleen Wiley (not Willey)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2015 05:00 PM (NeFrd)

144 When faced with a hard question, Hillary looks into her toolbox and pulls out her well worn favorite, the lie.

Posted by: maddogg

By now, it's a 53 ft shipping container.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 03, 2015 05:01 PM (hy5nE)

145 >>>An armed patient in for an appointment held a nurse hostage by gun at the Denver VA this morning

I didn't hear about that Cheri! Glad everyone is ok.

Posted by: Lea at December 03, 2015 05:01 PM (lIU4e)

146

Always Halloween in the Clinton House.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 05:01 PM (qCMvj)

147 Billy Jeff's perving started way back in his Arkansas days. Hillary has always known and has worked hard to trash the women involved.

The only reason she was so mad at him about Lewinsky is he had been stupid enough to get caught while POTUS.

Posted by: Cheri at December 03, 2015 05:02 PM (oiNtH)

148 First

we have to define what it means 'to believe'.

Posted by: Linas Shahjahan Kerr at December 03, 2015 05:02 PM (wsw9t)

149 "I read something earlier today where a co-worker said that this man was
in an argument recently with the killer about Islam, with the killer
trying to convince him that Islam was misunderstood in America and that
it was in fact a peaceful religion."

The muzzies keep advancing the same argument.

"You must believe me! We are a religion of peace! The Prophet, peace be upon him, commands it of us! However, if you do not believe me that our intentions are wholly peaceful, I KEEL YOU!!!!! I KEEL EVERYBODY!!! KEEL!!! KEEL!!! KEEL!!!"

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 05:03 PM (noWW6)

150 Have you disproven that the Russians and Chinese obtained top level communications from your office, due to your decision to maintain a non-secured private server?

Posted by: No reporter ever at December 03, 2015 05:03 PM (k8tEg)

151 The evidence proved those women's allegations. What do you think should have happened to their assailant?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at December 03, 2015 05:03 PM (jl269)

152 So is Islam a social construct?

Posted by: Yo! at December 03, 2015 05:04 PM (GwIKd)

153 Obama has signaled his intent to issue an Executive
Order to expand background checks to close by the so-called private sale
loophole by creating a definition of "gun dealer" which isn't expressly
defined by the background check statute. This may or may not be a big
deal depending on how "gun dealer" is defined. 50 sales a year? One or
two?

If I'm a dealer at one or two, I demand wholesale price and shipping to my door.

After all, I'm now a dealer.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (FZxI4)

I am pretty sure such an EO would not survive a court challenge.

Posted by: redbanzai at December 03, 2015 05:04 PM (aoyma)

154 And now Hillary can claim "asked and answered" if the question comes up in a more confrontational forum.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2015 05:04 PM (NeFrd)

155 What is great about a potential Trump v Clinton in the general, is he not above making this sort of attack against her.
Posted by: other joe_mama
_____________

Not so sure I trust the guy that had Hillary as his guest of honor at his wedding and showered her with campaign cash while she was a Senator.

Also, Trumps daughter Ivanka is besties with Chelsea Clinton.

Donalds attacks Hillary have been pretty milquetoast.

Posted by: Coolio at December 03, 2015 05:04 PM (XOU+F)

156 >>Listened to the clip a couple of times. I vote for Clinton campaign plant

That makes sense - her appearances as so scripted and stage-managed, this questioner is probably an intern at PP, Emily's List, or works for her campaign.

She needs to get this out of the way - so she's doing it on her terms.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 05:05 PM (NOIQH)

157
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 04:51 PM (r1fLd)

80% receivers FTW

"What gun?"

Although, I'd love to see more types of 80% handgun receivers out there. 1911s are pretty much the only ones readily available.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 03, 2015 05:05 PM (o98Jz)

158 When faced with a hard question, Hillary looks into her toolbox and pulls out her well worn favorite, the lie.

Yeah but she's terrible at it. Her husband was charming and effective in his lies. He wouldn't fool someone who was on to his game or who had discernment and intelligence, but it worked on most people. She doesn't really fool anyone but the press stops asking so they don't really care that much.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 03, 2015 05:05 PM (39g3+)

159 Even the writer of the piece Drudge linked to about Choom Boy's possible next gun-grabbing step knows it's bullshit:

Requiring background checks for weapons sold at gun shows might not have
had any effect on Wednesday's shooting in San Bernardino, in which 14
people were killed. So far, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
has determined that two of the weapons used in the assault were legally
purchased at a gun shop in Corona.

In the L.A. Slimes, FFS. Owners of the Khalidi Tape and constant suckers of the Mocha Messiah's toes.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 03, 2015 05:06 PM (dbC6X)

160 "Billy Jeff's perving started way back in his Arkansas days. Hillary has
always known and has worked hard to trash the women involved."

Canquelles consistently maintained for years that Gennifer Flowers was a psychotic fabulist and a criminal blackmailer and that Bill had never been anywhere near the woman.

Then, in one of the little noticed sideshows of the Lewinsky matter, Bill eventually fessed up in a deposition that, yep, he had been screwing Flowers for years on end.

No apology to Flowers from Hillary has ever been forthcoming.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 05:06 PM (noWW6)

161 W need a conservative Stuttering John to get press credentials. Just go in there like a suicide bomber asking point blank questions.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 03, 2015 05:07 PM (hy5nE)

162 153 -
I am pretty sure such an EO would not survive a court challenge.
Posted by: redbanzai
_________________________

Hahahahahahaha!

Posted by: A Wise Latina at December 03, 2015 05:07 PM (CbiVj)

163 "Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are disbelieved based on evidence," Clinton said, drawing applause.

Was the applause for the 2nd grade Pakistani English clause "until they are disbelieved based on evidence"?

Man, those Ivies really churn out masters of the English language ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at December 03, 2015 05:08 PM (zc3Db)

164 Clinton/Trump 2016 - between the two they would get 65% of the vote.

Posted by: Linas Shahjahan Kerr at December 03, 2015 05:08 PM (wsw9t)

165 She needs to get this out of the way - so she's doing it on her terms.

Its probably good enough for her followers and the press but anyone else? Are they really going to buy into that? Nobody who was around back then and remembers the instant, kneejerk "those are filthy lying trailer trash sluts!!!" response will buy it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 03, 2015 05:08 PM (39g3+)

166 "62
Guilty until proven innocent. Why did she get a law degree? Why was she able to get a law degree if she is a f*cking imbecile?

I realize she graduated Huma Cums Loudly at Wellesley, but this was in soft subjects, not like computer science or anything.

People saying that she is smart need to shut the f*ck up.

She is an imbecile. Please, let's not try to downplay that fact.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 04:41 PM (E5UB0)"

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Hillary Clinton does not know what the law is. She knows but she disagrees with it and she has amassed enough power to ignore the law in many cases. Hillary Clinton is like Woodrow Wilson in believing that the Constitution is old fashioned and outmoded as well as basically wrong in providing checks and balances that prevent people like her from doing whatever they want.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 03, 2015 05:08 PM (QHgTq)

167 >>Then, in one of the little noticed sideshows of the Lewinsky matter, Bill eventually fessed up in a deposition that, yep, he had been screwing Flowers for years on end.

Flowers played the voicemail tape of Bill's messages to her at a press conference during the '92 campaign.

And then 60 Minutes/Steve Croft came to the rescue and gave Bill and Hill the joint interview in which Hillary defended Bill while claiming she was no Tammy Wynette 'standing by her man'.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 05:09 PM (NOIQH)

168

~~War~~ Writing on Women

lol, that Trump

Trump signs woman's chest at rally

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/672480688566902784/photo/1

video here
http://bit.ly/1To1U7n

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 03, 2015 05:09 PM (qCMvj)

169 The thing is, as the previous article on "BS" profound sounding quotes (the technical, historical term for this is "sophistry" - deep sounding, emotionally compelling, but intellectually vapid crap), it works on people who are not very smart or educated. The bulk of the US population are not very discerning, nor have they been taught to think and analyze things intellectually.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 03, 2015 05:09 PM (39g3+)

170 Disbelieved?

Da-Fuq?

Posted by: Golfman at December 03, 2015 05:10 PM (48QDY)

171 Here's a fun quote from a WaPo story from 1999:

Lanny J. Davis, former White House special counsel, assailed the Broaddrick story before the broadcast, saying: "Is journalism about reporting facts or not? Where have we gone when an unsubstantiated allegation becomes a fact if others report it? It is not corroborated because her girlfriend saw her with a swollen lip. That doesn't make the charge of rape a fact."

Saying that "proving a negative" is impossible for the White House, Davis added: "How do we know she didn't lie to all her friends? We know that, voluntarily, without anyone influencing her, she swore out an affidavit that she now says she lied about.

Posted by: Lauren at December 03, 2015 05:10 PM (Kqit+)

172 Fairly easy to track guns as it is now. Two years ago I sold a Ruger LCP on consignment at a gun store. A couple of months later I got a call from Hertz at the Houston Airport. Evidently someone had left their gun in the rental vehicle. Got interesting when the registration matched my sales receipt but the Hertz folks had a purchase date prior to the date the pistol was ever sold. I called the gun shop that sold the pistol and they contacted Hertz. Evidently while the model was the same, the registration number Hertz had was wrong. Strange. I'm covered, got a receipt.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 03, 2015 05:10 PM (22uju)

173 Don't be disbelieving me! I talk good English.

Posted by: Queef Shrillary of Cankledom at December 03, 2015 05:10 PM (zc3Db)

174 The bulk of the US population are not very discerning, nor have they been taught to think and analyze things intellectually.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

You're welcome.

Posted by: Teachers' Unions and Dept. of Ejumakashun at December 03, 2015 05:11 PM (/FOB4)

175 I didn't hear about that Cheri! Glad everyone is ok.

Posted by: Lea

Yes it was over quickly. Nurse pressed the panic button and the incident was over in 15 minutes. Denver papers reporting it and local news but not nationally. So glad that no one was hurt.

Posted by: Cheri at December 03, 2015 05:11 PM (oiNtH)

176 Was the applause for the 2nd grade Pakistani English clause "until they are disbelieved based on evidence"?

The hand-picked Democrat operative crowd was just gratified she could get the carefully memorized phrase out fairly close to the original wording despite brain damage and drunkeness.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 03, 2015 05:12 PM (39g3+)

177 Speaking of the sidebar where the question is asked "What common sense gun laws would have stopped the mass shooting in San Bernardino."

The answer is simple, the one about not having guns. We're already halfway there when the targets don't have guns. If the shooters don't have guns they won't be shooters. They might be ax murders, but they won't be shooters, and it's easier to run away from an ax murder than a shooter. Very few people can outrun a bullet, but you only have to run faster than the next victim of the ax murder to escape, though you might want to keep a few, say three or four, next victims of the ax murder between you and him, just out of an abundance of caution.

Everybody knows that.

Posted by: Linas Shahjahan Kerr at December 03, 2015 05:12 PM (wsw9t)

178 She is an imbecile. Please, let's not try to downplay that fact.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 04:41 PM (E5UB0)"
______________

Don't forget that she flunked her first try at the D.C. bar exam and then got fired for unethical behavior after she finally became a lawyer.

Posted by: Furious George at December 03, 2015 05:12 PM (CbiVj)

179 "Hillary Clinton is like Woodrow Wilson in believing that the
Constitution is old fashioned and outmoded as well as basically wrong in
providing checks and balances that prevent people like her from doing
whatever they want."

Since there's a Mencken quote on the masthead of ace's blog, it's worth remembering Mencken's summation of the jurisprudence of Oliver Wendell Holmes: that the Constitution needed to be kept loose and elastic, in order that blasting huge holes through it should not be too onerous.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 05:12 PM (noWW6)

180
On the subject of Workplace Violence, vs what it IS:
Since they planted 3 "pipe-bombs" at the workplace to kill people, then we later we found 12 more bombs at their home, then what was their accomplishment of having a 15 bomb arsenal about?
Surely not more "workplace Violence" from a suddenly intolerant "trigger" to jihad yesterday. This was a long slow struggle they made agains the softest of softest targets in order to signal "The Horror" upon us. Lets not be affraid at all.

Posted by: MoJoTee at December 03, 2015 05:12 PM (aR8Ih)

181 Behead those who say Islam is not a religion of peace.

Posted by: Grump928(c) remembers 5th grade rhymes at December 03, 2015 05:12 PM (evdj2)

182 Well, I would say that everybody should be believed at first until they are ~~disbelieved based on evidence~~

...discredited by a well-organized, multi-pronged, persistently applied and media-assisted smear campaign.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (NeFrd)

183 110 I assume no follow up was allowed.
Posted by: Grump928(c) remembers 5th grade rhymes at December 03, 2015 04:54 PM (evdj2)

Because the obvious follow up would be: "In matters of 'he said, she said', the rapist is the one to be believed? At least if they're democrat politicians?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (kGrwF)

184 What hump?

Posted by: I-gor Clinton at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (k8tEg)

185 Headband Hillary was much less complacent.

It was all still too fresh then.

Posted by: Who Knows at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (W+Itt)

186 They have made a friend of horror:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VxtXYDVu8

Posted by: MoJoTee at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (aR8Ih)

187 Close

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (NeFrd)

188 I also recall Hillary in her first post-Lewinsky interview with Matt Lauer she assured him that "these allegation will not be proved true." The "proved true" part was particularly Clintonian.

Obviously she didn't know about the blue dress at the time, and she was going with the evidence-based approach to defending her husband's wandering willy.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (NOIQH)

189 Flowers played the voicemail tape of Bill's messages to her at a press conference during the '92 campaign.

And then 60 Minutes/Steve Croft came to the rescue and gave Bill and Hill the joint interview in which Hillary defended Bill while claiming she was no Tammy Wynette 'standing by her man'.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 03, 2015 05:09 PM (NOIQH)

Aside from being a woman, Hillary is pretty much the least traditionally feminist candidate you could pick.

1. Used nuts and sluts defense in support of husband
2. Stayed with cheating husband
3. Essentially used said husband to sleep her way to the top rather than using her own skills and talents.

Posted by: Lea at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (lIU4e)

190 Why is there a MB operative by your side 24/7?
Did Sid Blumenthal run the State Dept?
Did Huma find the "man in the canoe?"

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 03, 2015 05:14 PM (hy5nE)

191 Hillary has just sent a clear message to all men: The moment you are accused of rape go to the Police and file charges against your accuser.

Posted by: eman at December 03, 2015 05:14 PM (mR7Es)

192 Nood

Posted by: Yo! at December 03, 2015 05:15 PM (GwIKd)

193 I realize she graduated Huma Cums Loudly at Wellesley, but this was in soft subjects, not like computer science or anything.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at December 03, 2015 04:41 PM (E5UB0)"

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 03, 2015 05:08 PM (QHgTq)

OAH. You gotta admit. That was a good line.

Posted by: Golfman at December 03, 2015 05:15 PM (48QDY)

194 Link on Drudge re: Executive Order doesn't quite get it right. Many call it the "gun show loophole" but if you're "in the business of selling guns" you have to register as an FFL. When you're an FFL you have to run background checks whether you sell at your store or at a gun show.

The relevant statute doesn't expressly say how many guns you have to sell to be considered "in the business of selling guns." Lots of statutes don't have exact definitions.

Result is the "private sale loophole." Many folks make private sales at gun shows.

ANother link ink on Drudge is to Press Secretary Earnest saying we should make it harder for terrorists to get guns. This fits with my post above that I expect Obama to issue an Executive Order adding the No Fly List to the background check process.

Sure you can challenge these in court, after you've been charged with a felony.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 05:16 PM (r1fLd)

195 "133
Followup question:

"Mrs. Clinton, if Paula Jones is a woman whose
claims should be 'disbelieved based upon evidence", as you say, then
why did your husband pay Ms. Jones eight hundred and fifty thousand
dollars in an out of court settlement?"

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 04:59 PM (noWW6)"

The settlement was chump change compared to the millions spent on lawyers' fees to fight the lawsuit. Oh, yeah. Clinton also had to surrender his law license because he lied under oath.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 03, 2015 05:16 PM (QHgTq)

196 "Two years ago I sold a Ruger LCP on consignment at a gun store. A couple
of months later I got a call from Hertz at the Houston Airport.
Evidently someone had left their gun in the rental vehicle."

Crap. I rent from Hertz all the time. But do I ever find a nice free LCP in the glove box? Nooooooooooooo. Just wadded up frappucino cups.

Posted by: torquewrench at December 03, 2015 05:17 PM (noWW6)

197 I remember how Linda Tripp was savaged by the media and liberal women in the whole Lewinsky affair. They hounded her and her family relentlessly.

Posted by: Cheri at December 03, 2015 05:17 PM (oiNtH)

198 "He held, it would seem, that violating the Bill of Rights is a rare and deliberate malice, and that it is chief business of the Supreme Court to keep the Constitution loose and elastic, so that blasting holes through it may not be too onerous."
- H.L. Menken

http://tinyurl.com/o2nwsz6

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 03, 2015 05:17 PM (39g3+)

199 "It was not sufficient, so my instructors maintained, for Congress or a State Legislature to give assurance that its intentions were noble; noble or not, it had to keep squarely within the limits of the Bill of Rights, and the moment it went beyond them its most virtuous acts were null and void."

Also Mencken... I doubt that's being taught by any law schools any longer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 03, 2015 05:18 PM (39g3+)

200 Sure you can challenge these in court, after you've been charged with a felony.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 05:16 PM (r1fLd)

No, all it would take is for Steve Hayes to try and buy a gun and not be able to. Court challenge then. Steve would win.

Posted by: Jollyroger at December 03, 2015 05:18 PM (t06LC)

201 "Aside from being a woman, Hillary is pretty much the least traditionally feminist candidate you could pick.

1. Used nuts and sluts defense in support of husband

2. Stayed with cheating husband

3. Essentially used said husband to sleep her way to the top rather than using her own skills and talents.

Posted by: Lea at December 03, 2015 05:13 PM (lIU4e)"

So Hillary Clinton is the antimatter Sarah Palin.

Posted by: Obnoxious A-Hole at December 03, 2015 05:19 PM (QHgTq)

202 The enemey can always be bat-shit crazier than you, espechilly with your squad, lead, and ROE.
Unless we are allowed to go full-brando like they have.

Posted by: MoJoTee at December 03, 2015 05:20 PM (aR8Ih)

203 I assume the left the online mob and the weaponized bureaucracy will proceed about destroying this woman in short order for her impudence

Posted by: Trump at December 03, 2015 05:20 PM (41OdD)

204 The enemey can always be bat-shit crazier than you, espechilly with your squad, lead, and ROE.
Unless we are allowed to go full-brando like they have.

Allowed? When we do "go", there will be NO ROE.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 03, 2015 05:27 PM (FZxI4)

205 "No, all it would take is for Steve Hayes to try and buy a gun"

Onus is on the seller, if not registered as an FFL, if an Obama EO says seller should be. Then the seller can be charged as a felon. A hypothetical buyer from this seller won't have standing on this issue.

If the issue is the buyer being on a No Fly List, you can fight that and years later may get an answer. Many lower courts will screw you along the way to SCOTUS

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 05:27 PM (r1fLd)

206 Comment above re: Trump being soft on Hillary is wrong. He's just come out and said that she shouldn't be running because of her legal exposure.

If it got to the general Trump will get medieval on her ass. Bill Raping and Hillary's Enabling will be on the menu, as Trump would need to counter Hillary's Girl Power campaign meme.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 03, 2015 05:32 PM (r1fLd)

207 So she didn't answer the question.

Posted by: Brian Ross at December 03, 2015 05:41 PM (BNEdd)

208 Juanita was a blazing BIMBO according to Hillary!

Posted by: sam spade at December 03, 2015 06:07 PM (9ueDD)

209 Billy Clinton paid Paula Jones $450,000 in a settlement.

Posted by: Jane at December 03, 2015 06:58 PM (rDidp)

210 Devil with the

Blue dress

Blue dress

Blue dress

Blue dress

The devil with the

Blue dress on

Well, you know the rest.

I like the jump to the bottom feature.

Thanks Ace!

Posted by: DM at December 03, 2015 07:19 PM (j/tOh)

211 Believing accusers until accusers are proven to be liars is giving the accused the presumption of guilt until proven innocent. "Innocent until proven guilty" no longer.

Funny how Clinton doesn't apply this same "guilty until proven innocent" policy to her own national security investigation.

Posted by: duh at December 03, 2015 08:23 PM (fG412)

212 The real war on women: Hillary's enabling of Bill being a sexual predator all her married life.

Posted by: Zoltan at December 03, 2015 08:44 PM (p+qLo)

213 dumping a sock

Posted by: irright at December 03, 2015 10:23 PM (DtNNC)

214 That woman was a plant, posing as a sub-moronic Republican operative. Jonita? Kathleen Wiley? Hillary made a huge unforced error with her "all rapees should be believed" tweet so now she has to do damage control. The question is going to be asked so plant somebody to ask it in the stupidest way possible, then smugly brush it aside, then have a roomful of other plants applaud her brave non-answer. Then on to the White House!

Posted by: No name at December 04, 2015 07:37 AM (WZlnc)

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