Trump Goes After Carson

Trump goes after Carson on alleged lies about his background, drilling down particularly about the story about attempting to stab a cousin with a knife, and pyramid schemes:

Trump claims both to not believe the knife story, and to find Carson's temper "pathological," which sounds like he does believe the story. Well, no one's voting for Trump for conceptually consistency.

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Sunday that he remains alarmed by Ben Carson's claims of having a violent temper as a youth, but the real estate mogul said he doesn't know if his Republican presidential rival has been dishonest.
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"It's a lot of scrutiny and frankly, it's a lot of statements that are under fire, and I hope Ben's going to be OK with it. It's going to be interesting to see what happens -- time will tell," Trump said.

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But Trump also implied that Carson's story about attempting to stab someone in his youth -- only to have his knife broken when he hit a large belt buckle -- was hard to believe.
"Belt buckles really pretty much don't stop stabbing," Trump said. "They turn, they twist, things slide off them -- pretty lucky if that happened."
Trump said Carson's description of his childhood temper as "pathological" is disturbing.
"It's a serious statement when you say you have a pathological disease, because if I understand it, you can't really cure it," Trump said.

See? Is he saying the story's false, or that it's true?

Anyway, as to the veracity of the story, Ben Carson's mother confirmed it, back in 1997, before Carson could have been conceiving some kind of presidential campaign.

Bear in mind, we're in the weird situation where NY Magazine can snark with the headine, Candidate Defends Himself From Accusation That He Did Not Stab a Child. Carson said this happened; his detractors say that he didn't try to stab anyone, as a criticism, I guess.

Trump has also hit Carson on his "scholarship" story and "pyramids."

David French says Carson's claim about being offered a "scholarship" to West Point before actually applying tracks with his own experience:

Many years ago I was "offered" an ROTC scholarship before I even applied. After speaking with officers familiar with my academic record, they told me I would receive a full academic scholarship, and that the application was a mere formality. My teenage self certainly took their statements as an "offer," and I wouldn’t have applied without their word. (I filled out the forms and was formally accepted, but declined in favor of a better scholarship elsewhere.)

The most Trump-like attack was Trump's statement that Carson should "start taking pills" for his "‘pathological disease."

Video of Trump on O'Reilly here.

This happens as Carson notches Trump in South Carolina, 28-27. Statistical tie, but Carson "ahead."

Posted by: Ace at 06:52 PM

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1 Ace, have you or a cob done a post on how Ben Carson came out to support TPP the other day?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 06:53 PM (xetep)

2 Now what was that story about a sniper attack at the airport?

Posted by: subhuman taxpayer at November 09, 2015 06:57 PM (Ph45J)

3 401 likely voters. CHUPA VERGA.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2015 06:57 PM (Ye+90)

4 Trump uses "pathological" because that is BEN CARSON'S word for it. Literally, Trump is merely quoting Carson's own book. Carson said he had "pathological disease". I'm beginning to believe it. So few of his stories can be confirmed: saving white students during MLK riots. Being the "most honest" student.

Add to that that Carson supports amnesty, doesn't support the 2nd Amendment, wants to take the "positive aspects" of socialism and mix it with Capitalism, supports TPP, supports statehood for Puerto Rico, has a wacky view on the pyramids, is a member of a cult (Christians believe Jehovah's Witnesses are a cult and SADs believe many of the SAME things).

It's all adding up.

Rubio will "surge" next. The GOPe didn't mean for Carson to get *this* popular.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 06:58 PM (xetep)

5
I am named after Sir Edmund Hillary !
- Billary the Screeching Harpy

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 09, 2015 06:58 PM (3mTyP)

6 We seem to have a leadership selection crisis.

General James N. Mattis /Jindel 2016

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 09, 2015 07:01 PM (u82oZ)

7 Hillary shanked a bitch once just to watch her die.

Posted by: troyriser at November 09, 2015 07:01 PM (gJU39)

8 I'm not a fan of Carson and even compared to Chauncey Gardner in Being There.

But this is dirty pool. I thought Trump wouldn't go there.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 09, 2015 07:01 PM (r1fLd)

9 Wait. Seventh Day Adventists are Jehovahs

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 09, 2015 07:01 PM (3mTyP)

10 Meanwhile, my bullshit got swallowed whole by the entire media.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Major League MVP Four Years Running at November 09, 2015 07:01 PM (oVJmc)

11 My Dad taught me to hunt ducks and I am in no ways tarrd

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 09, 2015 07:02 PM (3mTyP)

12 I meant the Jehovas thing as a ? They are not the same as Seventh Day Adventists are they ?

Posted by: The Jackhole at November 09, 2015 07:03 PM (3mTyP)

13
Carsom...supports statehood for Puerto Rico,
Posted by: Aslan's Girl

That particular position is GOPe 101. It's even in the party platform.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2015 07:04 PM (kdS6q)

14

in NYC last weekend. took an Uber. Uber driver wanted to talk politics. thinks Trump is nuts

when I point out that Hillary commited felonies, he explained she has "privilege". he is a pakistani immigrant here and is comfortable with the idea that people of certain classes are entitled to ignore the laws us little people have to follow

and then he said he liked Cruz. Thought Cruz was really really smart

I thought that was interesting.

especially the part about new immigrants being very comfortable with lawlessness among the upper class

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:04 PM (zOTsN)

15 Goodness me. Goodness me. Industrial disease.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 09, 2015 07:04 PM (FkBIv)

16 >>>Hillary shanked a bitch once just to watch her die.

Posted by: troyriser at November 09, 2015 07:01 PM (gJU39)<<<

I warned people not to go to a park with Hillary.

Posted by: zombie Vince Foster at November 09, 2015 07:04 PM (REdlt)

17 Rubio will surge? I can't see how.

Posted by: freaked at November 09, 2015 07:05 PM (BO/km)

18 I know from "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" that Jehovah does not start with J.

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2015 07:06 PM (wi3ZN)

19 Trump gotta trump

Posted by: weft cut-loop [[]] at November 09, 2015 07:06 PM (rSTkb)

20 While there were certain things I appreciate about Trump (even though he was never my first choice) I found his response on this appalling-that and saying that Carson "found religion" in a dismissive tone

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:06 PM (No/ki)

21 Dear lord, are they accusing Ben Carson of lying about trying to stab someone? Gosh, I'm old enough o remember when admitting you tried to stab someone would prevent you from being elected.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at November 09, 2015 07:06 PM (oLnNK)

22
But this is dirty pool. I thought Trump wouldn't go there.
Posted by: Ignoramus

Not necessarily approving as such, but Trump has to find a hook to brush back Carson. ATM, he's the main completion and Trump needs some daylight between them to take the Red States.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2015 07:06 PM (kdS6q)

23 Rubio handles the press very very well these days

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:07 PM (zOTsN)

24 he is a pakistani immigrant here and is comfortable with the idea that people of certain classes are entitled to ignore the laws us little people have to follow
Posted by: ThunderB

Is that a "caste" thing?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at November 09, 2015 07:07 PM (FkBIv)

25 No, Jehovah's witnesses are not the same as Seventh Day Adventists although they share some beliiefs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:07 PM (No/ki)

26 especially the part about new immigrants being very comfortable with lawlessness among the upper class

It's accepted day-to-day business just about everywhere else in the world, even so-called first-world countries.

And it's accepted here in the media, because the media wants us to be like those other countries.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 09, 2015 07:07 PM (2lndx)

27 I'd never try to stab a friend.

Leave him for dead to attacking Muslims, sure, but never stab.

**cackles maniacally** **hic**

Posted by: Cankles! Clinton at November 09, 2015 07:08 PM (REdlt)

28

I dont think its a caste thing

its coming from an even more corrupt place thing, like Pakistan, or Mexico or Syria

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:08 PM (zOTsN)

29 When the stabbing story comes up in the next debate, I'd like for Carson to call the moderator's bluff, pull out a knife, and say "who do I have to stab to get you motherfuckers to believe me?!?!"

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2015 07:10 PM (wi3ZN)

30 Carson bolded the blog.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 09, 2015 07:11 PM (oVJmc)

31 If Trump ever gets elected-which is highly unlikely-I think a number of his supporters will be very surprised at what he says and does-and how it doesn't match their grandiose ideas.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:12 PM (No/ki)

32 I'll take pleasure in gutting you, boy.

Posted by: Ben Carson, trying to stab Nicolas Cage in The Rock at November 09, 2015 07:12 PM (REdlt)

33 we need a POTUS who will cut a bitch

whats does this here blogs masthead say?

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:14 PM (zOTsN)

34 It's just like a surgeon to bring a knife to a gum fight.

Posted by: Jim Malone at November 09, 2015 07:14 PM (FkBIv)

35 Not voting for a stabby black man is racis'.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 09, 2015 07:15 PM (oVJmc)

36 I thought Trump wouldn't go there.

Oh, we'll see Trump go a lot further before this is all over.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:15 PM (No/ki)

37 Dance like a beech, you hear me? Dance like a beech!

Posted by: Ben Carson, in the third season of Oz at November 09, 2015 07:15 PM (gJU39)

38 I think the whole thing is ridiculous

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:16 PM (zOTsN)

39 It was then I decided cutting people was for me.

Posted by: Dr. Ben Carson at November 09, 2015 07:16 PM (oVJmc)

40 Trump suggests Carson should "start taking pills?"

How long before he's accused by the press of practicing medicine without a license?

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 07:17 PM (e3bId)

41
Donald Trump's biggest problem is that he does not know when to STFU.

Trump's second biggest problem is that he really doesn't "get" why he's resonating with the Conservative base of the Republican party.

It never occurred to Donald that just maybe that the same people who support him ALSO might kinda like Ben Carson, you know, seeing as Dr. Carson is pretty much on the same side.

But no, Trump is set on conducting himself as if he's a WWF superstar and Everyone is his competition.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:17 PM (enDq3)

42 Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:16 PM (zOTsN)

What thing? Trump attacking Carson?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:17 PM (No/ki)

43 Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:17 PM (enDq3)

Well put.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:18 PM (No/ki)

44 I'm hoping to purchase some street cred on the open market here soon.

Posted by: Donald Grump at November 09, 2015 07:18 PM (Dwehj)

45 We will not rest until we expose Ben Carson's lies with a thoroughness and ruthlessness we were completely uninterested in doing to Barack Obama in the last 8 years.

Posted by: The MSM at November 09, 2015 07:19 PM (oVJmc)

46 Ben Carson was the inspiration for Roberto, the crazy and stabby robot.

Posted by: the creator of Futurama at November 09, 2015 07:20 PM (REdlt)

47
This is where Trump annoys me -- he, and apparently no one around him, never sees an opportunity to actually SIDE with a Republican AGAINST the Common Enemy, i.e., the Media.

Instead, Trump joins the farking chorus like an opportunistic lemming. Not good. Not good.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:20 PM (enDq3)

48 I was concerned (concerned, I tell you) when I read a blurb about him calling Carson pathological. But if all he was doing is throwing Carson's self description back at him, that quickly becomes a nothing burger.

Mirriam Webster definition of pathological:

being such to a degree that is extreme, excessive, or markedly abnormal <a pathological liar>

That one seems to fit best, based on context.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2015 07:20 PM (gyKtp)

49 If it was one of big Texas belt buckles it would believable.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 09, 2015 07:21 PM (T78UI)

50 Remember people, this is apparently the best we can do.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 07:21 PM (e3bId)

51 Can you count, suckers? I say the future is ours...if you can count!

Posted by: Ben Carson, as Cyrus in The Warriors at November 09, 2015 07:21 PM (gJU39)

52 Barry had a ghost writer making up crap left and right and no one cared, yet lefties thought it was a masterpiece.

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2015 07:22 PM (Zix3k)

53 Donald Trump's biggest problem is that he does not know when to STFU.

Yes, he reacts from ego. Carson's the closest to him, so he has to strike at him.

But he'd probably be better off making sure that the establishment candidates like Rubio and Yeb! get mortally wounded because the establishment will try to move them against him when they sense an opportunity.

Posted by: The MSM at November 09, 2015 07:22 PM (oVJmc)

54
Donald Trump's biggest problem is that he does not know when to STFU.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Signed. The press is unintentionally helping you, just let them work your opponent over while you murmur meaningless platitudes.

Trump is one of those guys who sees a brawl and just has to jump in. It's like the fight scene in a John Wayne movie.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2015 07:22 PM (kdS6q)

55
I think I kinda figured out Trump. He goes with whatever way the wind is blowing.

I still like him, though. And I still won't vote for anyone else besides him. THAT'S how much I despise the Republican party.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:22 PM (enDq3)

56
Trump would score YUGE points if he sided with Dr Carson. He blew a great opportunity.

There is absolutely no upside to joining the witchhunt against Dr Carson. Pisses me off, really.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:24 PM (enDq3)

57 From Hell's heart, I stab at thee.
For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.

**stab**

**crack**

Nooooooo. Damn belt buckle!

Posted by: Capt. Carson at November 09, 2015 07:24 PM (REdlt)

58 56 yes, this whole stabbing thing is becoming a wedge issue.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 07:25 PM (e3bId)

59 Trump would score YUGE points if he sided with Dr Carson.

Yep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:25 PM (No/ki)

60 Starting out I thought this would get him in a jam he wouldn't get out of but admit he hasn't yet.

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2015 07:25 PM (Zix3k)

61 No, Jehovah's witnesses are not the same as Seventh Day Adventists although they share some beliiefs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:07 PM (No/ki)

For one thing, Seventh-Dayers don't knock on your door and disturb you with a handful of Watchtowers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2015 07:26 PM (0yhH4)

62 >>>Barry had a ghost writer making up crap left and right and no one cared, yet lefties thought it was a masterpiece.

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2015 07:22 PM (Zix3k)<<<

To be fair, nobody read that shit.

Posted by: Barry O. (surprise dog eater!) at November 09, 2015 07:26 PM (REdlt)

63 Carson should make his campaign song 'Cuts Like a Knife.'

Posted by: The MSM at November 09, 2015 07:26 PM (oVJmc)

64 I still like him, though. And I still won't vote for anyone else besides him. THAT'S how much I despise the Republican party.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:22 PM (enDq3)

You are aware Trump is seeking the Republican Party nomination, right? Same as Jeb, same as Rubio, same as Fiorina, Jindal and Cruz, et al.

It's true that Trump's endorsement of a single payer healthcare system like the disastrous setups in Canada and the UK put him right there on the Left with Bernie Sanders, but Trump's still a putative Republican.

Posted by: troyriser at November 09, 2015 07:27 PM (gJU39)

65 I doubt Carson gets the nomination. Admirable man, but not enough there there. If and when he fades, his support has to go somewhere, but it's not clear where.

Which is why I didn't think Trump would go after Carson directly. Why anger people you want to join you later?

Trump is probably doing it because he doesn't want to lose momentum from being #1.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 09, 2015 07:27 PM (r1fLd)

66 49 >> If it was one of big Texas belt buckles it would believable.

If his friend was wearing one of those in Detroit, everyone would be trying to stab him.

Not many country music lovin' types in Detroit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 09, 2015 07:28 PM (gyKtp)

67 56 yes, this whole stabbing thing is becoming a wedge issue.

I see what you did there.

Posted by: April at November 09, 2015 07:28 PM (FjIA5)

68

anyone ever had any luck washing pillows?

Anytime I try, I ruin them.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:28 PM (enDq3)

69 When a candidate stars using Politico's bullshit as campaign oppo research it's time to forget that guy...

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at November 09, 2015 07:29 PM (hCdMd)

70 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 09, 2015 07:29 PM (KCxzN)

71 It's obvious The Donald has no advisor telling him to stick to the issues.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:29 PM (Omh3b)

72 This is dumb of Trump. Really dumb. He just can't help himself. He is a pit bull by nature. What happened to the counterpunch guy? Carson hasn't gone after him and here Trump is coming for him. I'd vote for Carson. He seems like a genuinely sincere kind man. Idk what kind of President he'd be, but I'd still vote for him.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 09, 2015 07:29 PM (fBape)

73
You are aware Trump is seeking the Republican Party nomination, right?

Of course I am.

Same as Jeb, same as Rubio, same as Fiorina, Jindal and Cruz, et al.

No. Not at all the "same," which is the whole point.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:30 PM (enDq3)

74 anyone ever had any luck washing pillows?

Anytime I try, I ruin them.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:28 PM (enDq3)

I just use Irish Spring. And I get to wash them and you don't.

Posted by: Kate Upton at November 09, 2015 07:31 PM (0yhH4)

75 @14 Thunder you talk religion with Uber boy?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:31 PM (QvClr)

76 I'd vote for Carson. Or Trump. Or Cruz. At this point, all I am interested in is causing liberal heads to explode.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 07:31 PM (e3bId)

77
It's as if Trump learned Nothing from the last debate.

I really thought it would finally dawn on Donald Trump that the Media is NEVER his friend.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:31 PM (enDq3)

78 Soothsayer, throw a shoe in the dryer with it so it didn't get all lumpy.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 09, 2015 07:32 PM (fBape)

79

I thought Trump would learn from his Rolling Stone interview...

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:32 PM (enDq3)

80 I fully expect the League of Black Snowflakes to go on strike until Donald Trump resigns.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (Z58Xa)

81 If chosen as a member Pres. Trump's cabinet, I will not serve.

I will first dictate my demands before beginning negotiations of the release of the White House Press Pool, piecemeal.

Posted by: derit at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (jT+gh)

82
A shoe in the dryer? This works?

Holy cats, the noise would be unbearable!

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (enDq3)

83 >>>>Trump would score YUGE points if he sided with Dr Carson.<<<<

Maybe at the next debate Trump can give him a wakizashi.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (tEDMc)

84 I was gonna post in the other thread, but thought I'd better check, and, aha!!!!

I'm on to you ace.

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (C3E0x)

85 This is a comparison of Jehovah Witnesses and Adventists from a JW perspective

http://tinyurl.com/pdnjx63

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (No/ki)

86 82 or tennis balls.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (e3bId)

87 all of the above

a boy who gets in fights and the press who want to make it a lie

the whole thing is nuts

I understand Carson tells the story as part of his getting religion. OK. I believe him

it just isnt that a big a deal to me how he got there. the idea that this is some kine of "lie" of the century or something to go after him on is silly to me

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:34 PM (zOTsN)

88
Carson should make his campaign song 'Cuts Like a Knife.'
Posted by: The MSM

"You Don't Mess Around With Jim."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2015 07:34 PM (kdS6q)

89 Question to Ace:

Trump claims both to not believe the knife story, and to find Carson's temper "pathological," which sounds like he does believe the story. Well, no one's voting for Trump for conceptually consistency.

If you had a commenter here who went off about how he spent a lot of time as a kid doing acts of life-threatening violence, and you got the feeling that there were some holes in the story - what would you think of him?

Personally, I'd extrapolate from all that, that that commenter had a fixation on violence that he hadn't acted on. And I'd be concerned - as a reader - that he might act on that in future. I'd certainly take measures to protect myself physically if I was in a meetup with him.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 07:34 PM (D65RZ)

90 That particular position is GOPe 101. It's even in the party platform.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2015 07:04 PM (kdS6q)

Of course it is. It'll result in more Democrats in Congress.

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 07:34 PM (C3E0x)

91 I like Trump....I like Carson. Things being the way they are they both are better than the Mad Mulatto in the Out House or the Hildabeast.

Carson seems to be coming on and as far as lying goes good for him....lie baby lie and tell the MSM, who lie continuously to shove it. Liars are the new black.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 09, 2015 07:35 PM (ej1L0)

92 @14 Thunder you talk religion with Uber boy?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:31 PM (QvClr)

no

no I did not

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:35 PM (zOTsN)

93 Put on open jar of mayonnaise in the dryer along with the pillow.

Posted by: let's see what else we can get him to try! at November 09, 2015 07:35 PM (ByTPS)

94 The only pols I've seen come to Carson's defense are Bernie Sanders, Jeb Bush, and Donna Brazille. I shit you not.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 09, 2015 07:35 PM (t5zYU)

95 Legal Insurrection also had a good write up on military academy 'scholarship offers'. It put up a good defense for Carson, who I found credible in his claim, until I was made to think about it more... somedude points out you meet qualifications for x and y to make the early cutoff, and all you have to do is apply by a certain with appropriate references (z) and you'll have the 'Congrats You Made It" letter. THAT letter is the offer. Having somedude point out you would make the cut if you apply is not an offer - they are encouraging you to apply.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 09, 2015 07:36 PM (T78UI)

96 No. Not at all the "same," which is the whole point.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:30 PM (enDq3)

Yeah, going full-on socialist with NHS-like single-payer healthcare definitely sets Trump apart from his Republican competitors, that's for sure.

Posted by: troyriser at November 09, 2015 07:36 PM (gJU39)

97
However, as bad as Trump is on this, the person behind the Politico story was, most likely, Juan Ellis Bush.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:36 PM (enDq3)

98 Wise of you Thunder. Good choice.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:37 PM (VROg+)

99 For one thing, Seventh-Dayers don't knock on your door and disturb you with a handful of Watchtowers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2015 07:26 PM (0yhH4)

Oh, yes they do! We had one in the early '90s who came every week. At first my mom liked talking to him (she was recently born-again) but then she got sick of some of the things they spouted. The guy wouldn't take a hint so she had us play the "quiet game" where we pretended not be home.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 07:37 PM (xetep)

100
Posted by: let's see what else we can get him to try!

Ha!

I was born at night, but not last night.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 07:37 PM (enDq3)

101 Stick baby Hitler in the dryer to give him an aversion to ovens

Posted by: derit at November 09, 2015 07:38 PM (jT+gh)

102 Come on Carson. Put away that chickensh@t gun. You don't want to just pull the trigger. You want to put the knife in me! Look me in the eye and see what's going on in there when you turn it! That's what you want to do right!?

Posted by: Colonel John Matrix at November 09, 2015 07:38 PM (lyZbS)

103 Why did Trump get sent to the Military Boarding School? His father said he was headed in a bad direction... since it's about the same age as Carson's stabbing story, I think we need to start asking Trump to account for his 14 year old self.

Trump is really not Presidential material. I wish he was. But he is just vile with his attacks on stupid stuff like this.

He could attack Carson on the Treaty, that is a valid attack, and Trump has some credibility on that issue, but instead he is in Tabloid territory talking about the activities of a 14 year old boy as though it matters somehow.

I think maybe Trump is not very smart. Maybe he is just lucky, I saw something about how he'd have more money if he had just invested his inheritance that he really doesn't make as much as just investing would have given him.

Posted by: petunia at November 09, 2015 07:38 PM (VoCyE)

104 This is a mistake by Trump. He will get no points for beating up on a NERD.

Posted by: brainpimp at November 09, 2015 07:38 PM (zosQc)

105
Maybe at the next debate Trump can give him a wakizashi.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living.

"Why do you need Japanese steel?"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2015 07:38 PM (kdS6q)

106 I'm not reallly concerned that Carson would act on it in the future because I do believe in the power of God to completely change one's hear,t and I think that if he had exhibited violence since then it would have stopped him from being as successful and caring as he was a pediatric neurosurgeon

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:38 PM (No/ki)

107 Trump and Carson. Ying and Yang. One rages, one is calm. But both are successful for one reason. They are more real than the rest.

They have to be accepted or rejected as they are, warts and all. If they try to change they will lose their mojo completely and disappear like wisps of smoke.

They are as imperfect as you or I. And both will continue to she'eet the bed a lot. The game is just beginning.

Posted by: Meremortal at November 09, 2015 07:39 PM (3myMJ)

108
A shoe in the dryer? This works?

Holy cats, the noise would be unbearable!
...............

You don't have anything besides tap shoes?

Posted by: wth at November 09, 2015 07:39 PM (wAQA5)

109 other campaign songs?

Mack the Knife

Cuts Like a Knife

Beat it by Michael Jackson

Any song from West Side Story

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:39 PM (zOTsN)

110 Trump on O'Reilly?

I'm surprised the universe is still here.

Posted by: DM at November 09, 2015 07:40 PM (j/tOh)

111 Trump and Carson should put aside their differences and invent an effective pillow drying machine for the good of all mankind.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 07:40 PM (e3bId)

112 THAT letter is the offer. Having somedude point out you would make the cut if you apply is not an offer - they are encouraging you to apply.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 09, 2015 07:36 PM (T78UI)

If I were 18, and a good student, and a 4-star General said to me "You are a shoo-in if you apply to West Point", I'd take that to be an offer, with the implication that said general would use his influence on my behalf.

Posted by: Kate Upton at November 09, 2015 07:40 PM (0yhH4)

113 boys used to get in fights and it was not the end of the world or a predictor of criminality for the rest of their lives

I just dont see this as such a big deal

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:40 PM (zOTsN)

114 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:38 PM (No/ki)

A false Christ cannot change a person's heart. SADs believe Christi IS Michael the Archangel. False. They practically worship that crazy prophetess, too. She made fake predictions and wanted more and more $$.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 07:40 PM (xetep)

115 Trump's attack commentary, with its "I hope it works out for him, but . . . " line, makes Trump sound like the passive-aggressive asshole he most surely is.

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 09, 2015 07:41 PM (U6f54)

116

my cousin hit my brother in the nose with a bat. Awful

he later became a priest

kids

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:41 PM (zOTsN)

117 *yawn* Trump being Trump.

Carson being, remarkably similar to Obama in the sense that people project onto him what they want to see. Not healthy for people ostensibly conservative to see and smell smoke and not wonder what is going on.

Posted by: se pa moron at November 09, 2015 07:41 PM (7v/r5)

118 Trump & O'Reilly? Good Lord, can their heads fit inside the same studio?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:41 PM (8PcKC)

119 If I were 18, and a good student, and a 4-star General said to me "You are a shoo-in if you apply to West Point", I'd take that to be an offer

THAT much, I'm on Carson's side about. I might prefer one candidate to another, but the enemy is the Left and its media.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 07:42 PM (D65RZ)

120 I fully expect the League of Black Snowflakes to go on strike until Donald Trump resigns.

Posted by: t-bird at November 09, 2015 07:33 PM (Z58Xa)

I'm stealing that name, thankyouverymuch.

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 07:43 PM (C3E0x)

121 These two cops now charged with murder, emptying their handguns into a car with a dad and his boy, killing the boy, badly injuring the dad, hey, anybody notice the races of those involved?

Black cops, white victims.

Where is CNN with this? Where are the demonstrators?

Posted by: the littl shyning man at November 09, 2015 07:43 PM (U6f54)

122 Oh, yes they do! We had one in the early '90s who came every week. At first my mom liked talking to him (she was recently born-again) but then she got sick of some of the things they spouted. The guy wouldn't take a hint so she had us play the "quiet game" where we pretended not be home.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 07:37 PM (xetep)

Well, I have never been proselytized by Seventh-Dayers. And I know there are some here in Alberta. Also some Mormons, and I know some of the latter personally.

But, AFAIK, only JW's distribute Watchtowers.

Posted by: Kate Upton at November 09, 2015 07:43 PM (0yhH4)

123 Next debate: Trump Vs. Carson in a West Side Story-style knife fight.

Posted by: The MSM at November 09, 2015 07:43 PM (oVJmc)

124 If Baby Hitler drew a long knife on Snuggles in the Black Forest, would the press make a sound?

Posted by: derit at November 09, 2015 07:44 PM (jT+gh)

125 Damn! Off bouncy sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2015 07:44 PM (0yhH4)

126 I stabbed a kid and let me tell you I'll choke a bitch if I'm up against Hillary.

Posted by: Ben Carson at November 09, 2015 07:44 PM (4ErVI)

127 JWs aren't even Trinitarian. The comparisons to Seventh-day Adventists are ridiculous.

Posted by: Sjg at November 09, 2015 07:44 PM (gDSJf)

128

a boy like that, who kill your brother

forget that boy, and find another

one of your own kind, one of your own kind

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (zOTsN)

129 ...Carson's 'favorables'(in terms off polled likability) are supposedly the highest ever recorded for a serious Presidential candidate.
Trump may very well, and finally, diminish himself trying to take Carson down.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (3ZttN)

130 This is the point where this primary cycle will turn 180°! Mr Trump and Dr Carson will tear each other down and when the smoke clears we will be left with a set of far more reasonable choices!

Posted by: Begonia at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (DlSGW)

131 If I were 18, and a good student, and a 4-star
General said to me "You are a shoo-in if you apply to West Point", I'd
take that to be an offer, with the implication that said general would
use his influence on my behalf.

Posted by: Kate Upton at November 09, 2015 07:40 PM (0yhH4)

I am sure Kate Upton can get anything wants.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (T78UI)

132 Care to point to anything that this website by the Seventh Day Adventist church on Christ and the Trinity that doesn't fit in with traditional Christianity.

And I'm sorry i have no idea what you're talking about in "crazy prophetess". please elaborate

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (No/ki)

133 4 hours bitches... get ready

Posted by: Fallout 4 at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (e7T6D)

134 93 Put on open jar of mayonnaise in the dryer along with the pillow.

Hey that's my favorite weird trick!

Posted by: Debbie Wassername Shultz at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (BO/km)

135 This isn't a minor problem, like leaving someone to drown in a car or something.

Ben Carson tried to stab a guy... that's a bridge to far!

Posted by: zombie Mary Jo Kopechne at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (REdlt)

136 http://www.adventist.org/en/beliefs/

Website for the church.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (No/ki)

137 Anyone who thinks Ben Carson's faith is less Christian than Donald Trump's is brain damaged.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (t5zYU)

138

"Carson is an evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet"

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Male Prostitute at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (qul7b)

139 Carson needs to invoke the Bill Clinton half-excuse:

"Yes I tried stabbing a kid, but I didn't impale!"

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (NeFrd)

140 All this talk about pillows. You guys know that pillows are soft and warm are always in bed with you already?

Posted by: the chicken, the couch and the toaster at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (wAQA5)

141 I'd certainly take measures to protect myself physically if I was in a meetup with him.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 07:34 PM (D65RZ)

I would also hope people take precautionary measures when coming face to face with toilet hobos.

Posted by: wooga at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (5DrNI)

142 I am sure Kate Upton can get anything wants.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (T78UI)

Except, apparently, an automatic sock remover.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (0yhH4)

143 Carson is a Christian. It's ridiculous to claim he isn't.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:47 PM (No/ki)

144 When Ben Carson come out on stage, or starts speaking, we're gonna play that music they play during fight scenes in the original Star Trek.

Posted by: Fox Business Channel at November 09, 2015 07:48 PM (REdlt)

145 @139 Seamus thanks for the yucks on that one

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:48 PM (+oRxW)

146 my toddler daughter tried to bean her brother on the head with a frying pan when he took her toy earlier in the day

I will make sure she puts that in any future job applications

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:48 PM (zOTsN)

147 At the time in question, Carson was excelling in Junior ROTC in Detroit during the Vietnam era, and had good enough academics to go to Yale. A four star general tells him he's in at West Point if he wants to go. Does anyone doubt this?

He also says he had anger issues as young man before he found God. Some of what he says may be puffery or exaggerated. It may all be true. Who knows? But MSM and Trump are going after this because it undermines Carson's only real qualification: that's he's an honest man and a man of God. Not surprised about MSM doing this. I am surprised at Trump doing it directly.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 09, 2015 07:49 PM (r1fLd)

148 Carson is Gorn places

Posted by: derit at November 09, 2015 07:49 PM (jT+gh)

149 The Donald lost point with me when he said "Carson got religion". It's just such a dismissive thing to say, but it goes along with "I go to church to get my cracker and juice."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:50 PM (No/ki)

150 Sounds like a certain parent is letting their toddler watch too many 3 Stooges episodes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:50 PM (QdyoO)

151 Trump is a jerk. Just the kind of jerk this country deserves.

Posted by: Debbie Wassername Shultz at November 09, 2015 07:51 PM (BO/km)

152 Take the 'lies' Carson is accused of and compare them to the standard operating procedure for any current politician you can name.

Are we really on the same level of magnitude here?

Consider that the media that's contemptuous of Carson's autobiography was aching for Joe Biden to get into the race....no irony there, huh?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oVJmc)

153

no three stooges

but she has a temper. like her mother

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:52 PM (zOTsN)

154 It's just such a dismissive thing to say, but it goes along with "I go to church to get my cracker and juice."

You get SNACKS...?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at November 09, 2015 07:52 PM (oVJmc)

155 I would also hope people take precautionary measures when coming face to face with toilet hobos.

Meh, I assume they do. If they know I'm coming they've got their iPads at the ready in case another lecture on the Umayyads is forthcoming (spoiler: it is).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 07:52 PM (D65RZ)

156 my toddler daughter tried to bean her brother on the head with a frying pan when he took her toy earlier in the day

I will make sure she puts that in any future job applications

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:48 PM (zOTsN)

Can she make a sammich yet?

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 07:54 PM (C3E0x)

157 I don't like the tone the Donald has taken and he falls to his basest NY'er self throwing stupid insults, ... he should stay above it all, but humans gonna human. I'll take him as front-runner over McCain or Romney any day.

I still like who Trump pisses off. I'm willing to gamble on how he'll govern and the cabinet he'll form. Carson is a good man, but I have no faith in the cabinet he'd put together. I'm afraid it would be chocked full of shitheads.

Posted by: Yip at November 09, 2015 07:55 PM (e7T6D)

158 97% of Seventh Day Adventists believe the earth was created in six days. That number is comforting. I hear it a lot. It proves that the science is settled.

Posted by: se pa moron at November 09, 2015 07:56 PM (7v/r5)

159 Say nothing bad about a fellow Republican....well maybe except for Jeb

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 09, 2015 07:56 PM (DUoqb)

160 Fuck Trump.

For him to go after Ben Carson for his faith is complete bullshit, especially considering we're all just sort of pretending Donald Trump is a Christian, even though he's said things like he's never prayed to God for forgiveness.

More and more Trump looks like a Hillary stalking horse.

Posted by: Kal at November 09, 2015 07:57 PM (AjVoL)

161 The thing is, that this more of the kind of "upside down" stuff we seem to be seeing lately. Experience governing stuff is bad, if you want to govern the whole country.

Hitting your mother and trying to stab your friend is something you vehemently insist that you DID, not something you DENY.

Trump is putting it badly, but somewhere in there is the point: "Well, I was NEVER so f-ed up that I tried to hit my mother, and I don't care who knows it!"

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2015 07:57 PM (/q6+P)

162 Well I just got home and opened my mail and I got a letter from the DOD and the OPM to tell me the good news that they have determined that all my personal information and that of my family were one of the millions with Security Clearance investigations that have been hacked....Oh lucky me.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 09, 2015 07:58 PM (DUoqb)

163 my toddler daughter tried to bean her brother on the head with a frying pan when he took her toy earlier in the day

I will make sure she puts that in any future job applications

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:48 PM (zOTsN)

Can she make a sammich yet?
Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 07:54 PM (C3E0x)

I'll let her splain it to you

with my cast iron skillet

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:58 PM (zOTsN)

164 I'm not actually sure what a Boulder toilet hobo is. Are there lots of public restrooms in Boulder or is that the price of apartments is so high about the only place to be able to afford to live is in a toilet? ;^)

Are you getting a degree/PhD or are you just interested in this area of religion and religious texts?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:58 PM (No/ki)

165 What I conclude from this is that Trump thinks Carson is going to beat him in Iowa and he doesn't like that.

Posted by: @votermom at November 09, 2015 07:59 PM (cbfNE)

166 @153 sounds like a little sweetie

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 07:59 PM (Oy0zJ)

167 I for one am not pretending Trump is a Christian. I couldn't care less about any of their religions after letting a leftist-Muslim be elected. Nah... do not care. We just need to win and push back hard.

Posted by: Yip at November 09, 2015 07:59 PM (e7T6D)

168 my toddler daughter tried to bean her brother on the head with a frying pan when he took her toy earlier in the day

I will make sure she puts that in any future job applications

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:48 PM (zOTsN)

I like a girl with spirit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (DUoqb)

169 Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 07:48 PM (zOTsN)

Maybe put the frying pan at a higher level she can't reach. :^)

I bit my sister in the stomach until she bled. Sibling rivalry can be intense.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (No/ki)

170 she is a good girl

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (zOTsN)

171 Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 09, 2015 07:58 PM (DUoqb)

NOW they tell you? Wasn't that hack months ago?

Posted by: @votermom at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (cbfNE)

172
I think Trump thinks that he's saying what I want to hear.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (enDq3)

173
Carson supports TPP, Gun Confiscation, and Amnesty.

I don't care if you are a nice guy and a Christian, three strikes and you are OUT, you bag of used douche fluid.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Male Prostitute at November 09, 2015 08:01 PM (qul7b)

174 I myself stabbed my sister with a pencil when I was a little kid and the graphite left a mark above her left breast

and no

there will be no pictures

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 08:01 PM (zOTsN)

175 Oh no. 2 or more dentists named Nevergiveup

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 08:01 PM (vL/IL)

176 OT: ESPN just ran something on mass shootings during Monday night countdown. This is going to be a full court press and expect GOPe to start to fold.

Posted by: WOPR at November 09, 2015 08:02 PM (LTDSy)

177 "we're all just sort of pretending Donald Trump is a Christian"

I am under no illusion as to DT's Christianity. It's kinda far down on my list though. Same with BC.

Posted by: freaked at November 09, 2015 08:02 PM (BO/km)

178 This is really stupid of Trump. I know a lot of people who love Carson. They are suspicious of Trump because he is so flashy and 3 wives and speaks so coarsely. They think Trump is a bad man. They aren't going to go running to Trump if he keeps going after Carson. They'll move to Cruz.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 09, 2015 08:02 PM (fBape)

179 you bag of used douche fluid.

Uggh1

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 08:02 PM (No/ki)

180 @162Nevergiveup.. Got it too. And the one they just gave us is with a different monitoring service than the one we (I) was given this summer by OPM with the initial discovery. Very confusing to say the least. At the OPM site it will show you the two letters they sent out, so you can see if your fingerprints were compromised or not. Heh. They did a bang up job.

Posted by: Yip at November 09, 2015 08:02 PM (e7T6D)

181 I don't have a firm opinion on Carson, but I believe him if he's saying he was angry when he was young until he found God and religion. That happens all the time. The first person I thought of was the boxer George Foreman. Talk about an angry person. Then he found faith and changed for the better permanently.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 09, 2015 08:02 PM (4ErVI)

182 Pretty sure Trump is behind the Carson news blitz. He's so bad in debates he won't follow through much there, but Carson is losing momentum.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at November 09, 2015 08:04 PM (39g3+)

183 >>>she is a good girl

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (zOTsN)<<<

A very good girl? Is she an aspiring "artist"?

Posted by: mothers of "gentle toddlers" everywhere at November 09, 2015 08:04 PM (REdlt)

184 Kal: For him to go after Ben Carson for his faith is complete bullshit, especially considering we're all just sort of pretending Donald Trump is a Christian, even though he's said things like he's never prayed to God for forgiveness.

Which means that Trump, like Churchill, considers himself a cultural-Christian and has told us as much. He could have lied like Obama and attended a beard "church" for x many years. But he didn't. He told us he's not a believer.

So I'm not understanding this "especially considering" thing. Where's the hypocrisy?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 08:04 PM (D65RZ)

185 There is no way--no way you come from my loins.

Junior, when we get home, I'm gonna smack your mama dead in the mouth.

Posted by: derit at November 09, 2015 08:04 PM (jT+gh)

186 I think many young people go through troubles like this and the difference to getting them through it is guidance and God and occasional swats on the butt

Posted by: ThunderB at November 09, 2015 08:04 PM (zOTsN)

187 Pure and utter stupidity from Trump's campaign. The person who advised this and the person who approved it should be fired.... and if that person is Trump he is a grade A dumbass. New Rule #1 in republican primaries... which I had thought this fucking numbskull campaign managers and candidates would have observed by now... if the media is attacking another candidate, ALWAYS side with the candidate because everyone hate the media. It's so fucking simple to pick up it's stupid that it has to be a rule. Jeb Bush looked like an asshole attacking Rubio towing the media line, and Trump looks like an idiot and an asshole now. I don't care the positions - you ALWAYS take the republicans side over the media during the primaries - it's worth far more to you than that candidate losing from faux attacks from the media.

Posted by: Reality Man at November 09, 2015 08:05 PM (BNEdd)

188 I can understand why some might support Trump in the hope he would be their son of a bitch. As admiral King said, "When the shooting starts, they have to send for the sons-of- bitches." Unfortunately, sometimes it is difficult to distinguish the hardass SOB from the common a**hole.

Posted by: charris at November 09, 2015 08:05 PM (2hI19)

189 Video of Trump on O'Reilly here.

Watch Trump and O'Reilly at the same time? As prisoner Manning says, that would make me feel like giving up.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at November 09, 2015 08:05 PM (hiT/m)

190 The only position that Trump presently has that conservatives can base supporting him is his current position on illegal immigration. I say current because as recent as 2012 it was just the opposite. He is a narcissistic con man . What makes this even worse is he is still a hundred times better than Hillary.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:05 PM (0XyIg)

191 Just imagine how much more interesting this would be if we had a stripper/pornstar candidate.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 08:05 PM (e3bId)

192 The thing is, that this more of the kind of "upside down" stuff we seem to be seeing lately.

Exactly. Attention getting. Like 'dog bites man' stories never make the news, but 'man bites dog' become front page events.

I'm spitballing here but a youth populated with stories of attacks with bricks, baseball bats, knives, rocks is hardly what anyone would describe as 'normal adolescence'.

Might sell a few books, though.

Posted by: se pa moron at November 09, 2015 08:06 PM (7v/r5)

193 NOW they tell you? Wasn't that hack months ago?
Posted by: @votermom at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (cbfNE)

Yeah well I guess they have top people, "Top People" on it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 09, 2015 08:06 PM (DUoqb)

194 Posted by: Reality Man at November 09, 2015 08:05 PM (BNEdd)

It's especially bad because Trump will need the evangelical support should he win the nomination.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 09, 2015 08:06 PM (4ErVI)

195 "The thing is, that this more of the kind of "upside down" stuff we seem to be seeing lately.

Hitting your mother and trying to stab your friend is something you vehemently insist that you DID, not something you DENY."

It's a black thing, you wouldn't understand.

Posted by: Benny and the Jets at November 09, 2015 08:06 PM (3myMJ)

196 Just imagine how much more interesting this would be if we had a stripper/pornstar candidate.

*****

Ahem

Posted by: John "Tiffany" Kasich at November 09, 2015 08:07 PM (NeFrd)

197 Just imagine how much more interesting this would be if we had a stripper/pornstar candidate.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 08:05 PM (e3bId)
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Chris Christie dropped out?

Posted by: grammie winger, the sky spills over at November 09, 2015 08:08 PM (dFi94)

198
I've got some HillDog grannie porn if you want it. Also some used bloomers...

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Male Prostitute at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (qul7b)

199 As an aside, I saw a documentary last night: Secrets of the Mexican Drug War. I was curious because I had just finished Narcos on Netflix about Pablo Escobar.

Much of the hour was about Fast and Furious and at the end it pointed to Holder and the White House as being responsible.

Of all places, it was on MSNBC.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (r1fLd)

200
U.S. Navy said it launched a second Trident II missile in a planned exercise Monday afternoon from a submarine off the Southern California coast.

Hsssssss.....

Posted by: The Space Lizards

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (kdS6q)

201 so the best TFG can do in the face of Putin and the yuan is launch a few missiles, cause Kim Kardashian to tweet like a ninny, and scare a few horses on Malibu beach

pretty hormonal for President Mom Jeans

Posted by: Feh at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (Uk9e2)

202
It's especially bad because Trump will need the evangelical support should he win the nomination.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 09, 2015 08:06 PM (4ErVI)
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Good luck with that.

Posted by: grammie winger, the sky spills over at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (dFi94)

203 I bit my sister in the stomach until she bled. Sibling rivalry can be intense.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (No/ki)

I hit my brother over the head with a garden hoe.

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (C3E0x)

204 @190 I really don't know that Trump is 100 times better than Hillary. I really don't.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (ZZgPW)

205 Trump is doing us a favor. He's going to either show us his base-pettiness or he'll show grace and ability to learn the way of coalition-building, which I don't think comes naturally to him. He and his are not thinking too far out of the box on picking up other supporters so he's alienated many, except Cruz's so far, but they aren't likely to support Trump in anything but the general anyway.

I want to believe Trump is using 3D star-trek chess moves to placate the minds of center-lefty independents, the old blue-dog dems, and libertarians. Yeah, they don't vote in primaries, except they could in several states and that would cancel out the GOPe advantage of running Jeb! or Dondi. We'll see. Long way to go. Lots of bourbon on the shelves waiting for my liver to process it..

Posted by: Yip at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (e7T6D)

206 I'm gonna come at this from a kind-of oblique angle.

SNL alum Nora Dunn, in a "rambling psychobabble" rant against Trump on SNL, wrote:

...he lowered the bar for creepizoids like Ben Carson, who admits to going after people with bats, bricks, boards, and a hammer when he was a kid, and who tried to stab a friend when he was fourteen. He has not been asked how he overcame such behavior yet, nor what keeps him in his seemingly trance-like state now.
http://bit.ly/1NzkWYJ

In Sunday's Tulsa Tribune (happened to be at Mom's otherwise would never have known), the pathetic editorial cartoon echoed this Journ-o-listic Progressives Playbook technique.

"has not been asked how he overcame such behavior"

CHRIST! No need to ask. It's been made clear for a long, long time. And Jesus keep him, and all of us who struggle against our creepier natures.

Not that the minions of the Devil would understand that, of course.

Posted by: mindful webworker - blatantly at November 09, 2015 08:10 PM (ACs58)

207 I would bet money that Jeb is behind the Carson/Liar story. He has done the same thing with Rubio. He is too scared to attack Trump because he knows he can't win there. He is trying to kneecap the candidates whose votes he thinks he can get by spreading dirt through surrogates.

Trump is just reacting to Carson's last 2 polls that show him catching up to him. Plus he can't control his mouth.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 09, 2015 08:10 PM (fBape)

208 I hit my brother over the head with a garden hoe.

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (C3E0x)

****

Our oldest tried to poke the second oldest with a pin when he was a baby, hoping he would fly around the room like a deflating balloon.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 09, 2015 08:11 PM (NeFrd)

209 re: OPM

NGU,

I received mine the first week of October, when they started mailing them out after the 2nd breech.

21 million...

Posted by: SMFH at November 09, 2015 08:11 PM (c+Gpd)

210 208 tried that pin trick - doesn't work.

Posted by: Weasel at November 09, 2015 08:12 PM (e3bId)

211 What is all of this crazy-ass stabby shit? Is this a presidential primary or a gang rivalry?

I suppose next they'll be calling out the Cubans.

Posted by: Fritz at November 09, 2015 08:12 PM (3tjn4)

212 169 I bit my sister in the stomach

A Møøse once bit my sister

Posted by: BananaDream at November 09, 2015 08:12 PM (vLk7c)

213 I'm spitballing here but a youth populated with stories of attacks with bricks, baseball bats, knives, rocks is hardly what anyone would describe as 'normal adolescence'.

Anyone who's a Dickensian denier, that is

Posted by: derit at November 09, 2015 08:12 PM (jT+gh)

214 http://www.amc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123461853

Posted by: SMFH at November 09, 2015 08:12 PM (c+Gpd)

215 tried that pin trick - doesn't work.

Posted by: Weasel

****

Pop?

(goes the weasel)

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 09, 2015 08:13 PM (NeFrd)

216 Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Male Prostitute at November 09, 2015 08:01 PM (qul7b)

You must be one of those Low Information Voters I keep hearing about.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:13 PM (0XyIg)

217 So sad that the MSM still has so much power to take down a good man and trump instead of going after Hillary or Bernie does this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 08:14 PM (No/ki)

218 espn running lefty flak

is this what lefty calls "design thinking" and "corporate social responsibility"?

new buzzwords from small consulting firms getting bought up by Deloitte et al

Posted by: Feh at November 09, 2015 08:14 PM (Uk9e2)

219 Slightly OT, but just when I was starting to really question the Trump thing, along comes Peter Medici (if I'm spelling it right) on Charles Payne's show. Charles had a couple of people on, talking about the upcoming debate. e started off asking the famous economist point-blank, "So, which candidate has the best economic plan?"

I expected a long-winded, wishy-washy sort of "well they all have their strengths..." kind of thing. Instead he blurted out, with conviction ... "DONALD TRUMP". I was really surprised!

He went on to explain that Trump had sought out the advice on numerous experts when he put together the plan, was open-minded about it, included some great ideas that were pretty comprehensive, and that as a business man he knows what kind of government policies would help him grow a business.

Then he added that he was disappointed in Carson's plan, because he was hoping to see some special insight into how people think from him (reflecting his understand of the brain), and more sophistication (reflecting his intellect), but that instead it was nothing great.

As Ann Coulter has said, Trump (like only a few before him, including Romney) stands to LOSE more by running than they stand to GAIN, in running for President. It adds up to a certain degree of credibility as to his sincerity on the whole "Make America Great" stuff.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2015 08:14 PM (/q6+P)

220 >>>I bit my sister in the stomach until she bled. Sibling rivalry can be intense.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 08:00 PM (No/ki)<<<

I wish I had you for a sister.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's little sister at November 09, 2015 08:14 PM (REdlt)

221 I hit my brother over the head with a garden hoe.

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (C3E0x)

A garden-variety, common hoe.

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (hiT/m)

222 The commenter responsible for the black diamonds has been sacked.

Posted by: Olaf at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (BO/km)

223
"That's not a ho, my sister's a ho, and she don't look nothing like that!".

Posted by: Wesley Crusher, Male Prostitute at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (qul7b)

224 Dunno if I believe this:

Data from U.S. agency cyber breach not on black market

http://tinyurl.com/nud8y4a

Posted by: SMFH at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (c+Gpd)

225 "Well I just got home and opened my mail and I got a letter from the DOD and the OPM to tell me the good news that they have determined that all my personal information and that of my family were one of the millions with Security Clearance investigations that have been hacked"

Mrs VIA and I both got our two days ago.

Can't wait for online medical records to be a thing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (ptqRm)

226 Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (C3E0x)

Several of us here are obviously completely illegible to be President based on our sibling attack stories. ;^).

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (No/ki)

227 I am under no illusion as to DT's Christianity. It's kinda far down on my list though. Same with BC.
Posted by: freaked

++++++++++++++++++

I don't really care per se, but I do care that Trump is lying to us about his faith. And I think it makes it extra disgusting that man that's trying to fool the "rubes" about being a Christian is then attacking Ben Carson for his deep convictions.

I don't vote on religion, but I definitely have a dim view on people playing with faith like it's a position on Ethanol.

Trump knows he can't say he's an atheist/agnostic, so he's lies about it, like everything else that comes out of his mouth.

Teh most vicious attacks on Carson have come from Trump, not the MSM

Posted by: Kal at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (AjVoL)

228 Posted by: L, Elle at November 09, 2015 08:10 PM (fBape)

Then Jeb is doing the old misdirection because he came out strong defending Carson against the lie attacks.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:16 PM (0XyIg)

229 Nood up. Burning the Constitution.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at November 09, 2015 08:16 PM (0NdlF)

230 OPM hires new cybersecurity adviser to address data breach concerns

http://tinyurl.com/peef8wd

Posted by: SMFH at November 09, 2015 08:16 PM (c+Gpd)

231 NGU,

I received mine the first week of October, when they started mailing them out after the 2nd breech.

21 million...

Posted by: SMFH at November 09, 2015 08:11 PM (c+Gpd)

I have to re-up my Security Clearance in a few months...Knowing the DOD, they will probably turn me down since " Well your info was compromised so we can't trust you now"? Just kidding but knowing the DOD, ya knew know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 09, 2015 08:17 PM (DUoqb)

232 Oh the shark has pretty teeth dear
And he keeps them pearly white.
Just a jack knife has Dr. Ben dear
And he keeps it out of sight.

When the shark bites with his teeth dear
Crimson billows start to spread.
Belt buckles stop old Dr. Ben dear
So there's not a trace of red.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 09, 2015 08:18 PM (Nwg0u)

233 Wow, you're all so violent. Lol.
Hope you have changed your ways.

Fwiw, I was a biter. I used to bite my one cousin when I was little. I met up with her as a teenager and she looked frightened. I think I traumatized her.

Posted by: L, Elle at November 09, 2015 08:18 PM (fBape)

234 #217 MSM is what Americans CHOOSE to watch. Not that many want to watch Fox they WANT to see what the MSM gives

Posted by: righter at November 09, 2015 08:18 PM (27JXp)

235 For me, this attack hurts Trump more than Carson.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 09, 2015 08:18 PM (Nwg0u)

236 Re: Jeb! being the source of MSM attacks on Carson.

Last cycle someone gave MSM the e-mail address and phone number for the ex-wife of the guy Mitch Daniels's wife ran away. Mitch's wife broke up that marriage as well as her own, before she came back to Mitch. The real angle was that that someone then forwarded the leak to Mitch's wife. Mitch then dropped out before he even started.

Common wisdom was that Romney's camp had done it. In fact it was Jon Huntsman's.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 09, 2015 08:19 PM (r1fLd)

237 Can't wait for online medical records to be a thing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 09, 2015 08:15 PM (ptqRm)

Yes, I'm really ready to be completely forthright with every aspect of my medical history for the foreseeable future, and I'm still surprised that I haven't gotten the OPM notice, but at least it gives me something to look forward to.

I wonder what political party LifeLock contributes to?

Posted by: Hrothgar at November 09, 2015 08:20 PM (ftVQq)

238 Bill Clinton, serial rapist and Fantasy Island exploiter of very young women and operator of his post Presidency multi-millionshakedown operation aka the 'foundation' must see Carson and his 'troubles' as one boring snoozfest.
Bill C could show Dr Carson how the big dogs do the high life and earn the Really Big Scandals.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at November 09, 2015 08:22 PM (3ZttN)

239 ID Experts is the company that OPM is using for the credit monitoring/ID theft protection.

Posted by: SMFH at November 09, 2015 08:23 PM (c+Gpd)

240 @205 "Trump is doing us a favor. He's going to either show us his base-pettiness or he'll show grace and ability to learn the way of coalition-building, which I don't think comes naturally to him. He and his are not thinking too far out of the box on picking up other supporters so he's alienated many, except Cruz's so far, but they aren't likely to support Trump in anything but the general anyway.

I want to believe Trump is using 3D star-trek chess moves..."

I don't think it's that complicated. He takes jabs at people he is competing with - he's a fierce competitor. That being said, what has he really said about the other guys? Anything that SERIOUSLY hurt them in a real way? Not really. He's practically calling them "poopy head"! It's all branding, and that's his Jedi magic. The other guys don't even seem to know what's happening to them, even while it's happening.

Trump calls Jeb "low energy" ... so what? He didn't expose some sort of crime anybody has commited; I don't recall him really questioning anyone's character (other than basically saying they're for sale, but c'mon...).

BTW, Trump is going to completely eviscerate Hillary, when and if it comes to that. There's just SO MUCH to work with, it would be like setting a match to super dry kindling.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2015 08:24 PM (/q6+P)

241 @190 I really don't know that Trump is 100 times better than Hillary. I really don't.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at November 09, 2015 08:09 PM (ZZgPW)

Ok...how about 99.99% percent better than lies, lies and more lies along with dead bodies, misconstrued and hidden servers, private emails to void disclosure and being married to a sexual predator. And those are the Hildabeast's good points.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 09, 2015 08:25 PM (ej1L0)

242 Kal: I do care that Trump is lying to us about his faith

Prove it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 08:26 PM (D65RZ)

243 Fwiw, I was a biter.

If only you'd been Bill's intern instead of the mooncalf he got.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 08:28 PM (D65RZ)

244 Then he added that he was disappointed in Carson's plan, because he was hoping to see some special insight into how people think from him (reflecting his understand of the brain), and more sophistication (reflecting his intellect), but that instead it was nothing great.

Do you know what the sum total of our understanding of the brain is? Mix up a batch of jello or jelly and spread it out on your countertop. We know somewhere between ziltch and zero about how the brain actually works. Carson cut bad stuff out of the jelly - being careful to spare the good stuff. That's what a brain surgeon does.

This love affair with the words 'brain surgeon' is as annoying as the lefts fascination with 'Harvard graduate'.

Posted by: se pa moron at November 09, 2015 08:28 PM (7v/r5)

245 Trump and Carson are overachievers and this is their best bet for their next step. All the others are standard lying venal politicians. "Deserve an award if Trump or Carson are shills they do", said Yoda just the other day over a beer.

Posted by: My opinion at November 09, 2015 08:31 PM (PGh+Q)

246 Posted by: se pa moron at November 09, 2015 08:28 PM (7v/r5)

You're constantly down playing neurosurgeons. Are you a rocket scientist?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:32 PM (0XyIg)

247 @194 "... It's especially bad because Trump will need the evangelical support should he win the nomination."

The Evangelicals think the world revolves around them, and maybe they're normally needed to push things over the threshhold, but the calculus is different with Trump and he may not need them. He can appeal to independents easily, with his name being well known to even LIVs as someone who is a strong and shrewd leader. At this point, everybody seems to know that Hillary is thoroughly corrupt - all she's going to have are the barking-mad leftists and the nitwit identity voters who just care about having a woman President.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2015 08:33 PM (/q6+P)

248 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 08:26 PM (D65RZ)

He acts the opposite of a Christian. Trump prayed to God once on whether or not he should proceed with a project . God came to him in a dream and told him to proceed but he thought better and decided not to.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:36 PM (0XyIg)

249 127
JWs aren't even Trinitarian. The comparisons to Seventh-day Adventists are ridiculous.

Posted by: Sjg at November 09, 2015 07:44 PM (gDSJf)

Neither are SADs! I was surprise they don't believe in the Trinity.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:37 PM (xetep)

250 129
...Carson's 'favorables'(in terms off polled likability) are supposedly
the highest ever recorded for a serious Presidential candidate.

Trump may very well, and finally, diminish himself trying to take Carson down.

Posted by: Lower Class person whose opinions need to be guided at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (3ZttN)
OR maybe voters will wake up and realize Ben's not that favorable after all...

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:38 PM (xetep)

251 137
Anyone who thinks Ben Carson's faith is less Christian than Donald Trump's is brain damaged.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at November 09, 2015 07:46 PM (t5zYU)

I'm "brain-damaged" because I think anyone who believes Michael the Archangel and Jesus are one and the same is not Christian? Take it up with the Bible, not me.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:40 PM (xetep)

252 @244 "... Carson cut bad stuff out of the jelly - being careful to spare the good stuff. That's what a brain surgeon does.

This love affair with the words 'brain surgeon' is as annoying as the lefts fascination with 'Harvard graduate'."

You're overstating it, but, yeah - the economist I mentioned didn't really seem to have a realistic expectations regarding brain surgeons. Its just out of his field.

That being said, it's something of a reminder as to how Carson has very little relevant experience for the job he's applying for. It would make about as much sense for ME to apply for HIS old job.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 09, 2015 08:40 PM (/q6+P)

253 So... Trump was engaged in an unprophetible enterprise?

/I'd still like to see some links or footnotes, but, you know, iPads

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 08:40 PM (D65RZ)

254 248
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 09, 2015 08:26 PM (D65RZ)

He acts the opposite of a Christian. Trump prayed to God once on
whether or not he should proceed with a project . God came to him in a
dream and told him to proceed but he thought better and decided not to.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:36 PM (0XyIg)

So you're Karnac and privy to prayers? wow.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:40 PM (xetep)

255 235
For me, this attack hurts Trump more than Carson.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at November 09, 2015 08:18 PM (Nwg0u)

People thought the same thing when Trump went after McCain and Megyn. Turned out, it made Trump more popular than ever. Carson has been running attack ads in IA against Trump. Trump's punching back.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:42 PM (xetep)

256 Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:40 PM (xetep

Woooosh !!!!

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:43 PM (0XyIg)

257 Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:42 PM (xetep)

Do you also identify more as a democrat than a republican?

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:45 PM (0XyIg)

258 Our oldest tried to poke the second oldest with a pin when he was a baby, hoping he would fly around the room like a deflating balloon.

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at November 09, 2015 08:11 PM (NeFrd)

I'm gonna be laughing about that one for a while.

Posted by: Blano at November 09, 2015 09:05 PM (C3E0x)

259 132
Care to point to anything that this website by the Seventh Day
Adventist church on Christ and the Trinity that doesn't fit in with
traditional Christianity.

And I'm sorry i have no idea what you're talking about in "crazy prophetess". please elaborate

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 09, 2015 07:45 PM (No/ki)

I'm assuming you directed this at me? Here's one link from Walid Shoebat:

http://tinyurl.com/pd97cgn
And there's this from a former SAD
http://tinyurl.com/os76np8
Ellen G White is the "crazy prophetess" I mentioned.
I was really sad to learn they are not Christian. I know of a few and thought they were. Now I'm praying for them to find the right Jesus. Breaks my heart. I've liked Carson for 25 years and had no idea.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 09:08 PM (xetep)

260 256
Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 08:40 PM (xetep

Woooosh !!!!

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at November 09, 2015 08:43 PM (0XyIg)

How do you know that Trump only has prayed "once"? Psychic?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 09:09 PM (xetep)

261 Y-Not, I hope you look at the two links I provided for FenelonSpoke because it exposes the horror of SAD. No, they are NOT Christian. And yes, Norman Vincent Peale (Trump's favorite) is more Christian than any SAD.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 09:11 PM (xetep)

262 The only reason people see more UFO's when they are drunk is because that is the only time that they are looking up. The rest of the time they are looking in. And grain storage is perfectly reasonable. I would build a pyramid to store grain if I was afraid that the UFO's would come and take it away!

Posted by: goon at November 09, 2015 09:12 PM (gy5kE)

263 We tried sanity. The times call for crazy eyes. So Trump, Cruz, Carson. And that's just for a chance to change the trajectory. While the media tries to tear the winner down with the enthusiasm since they had W in their sights. And he was President. He's still in their sights.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at November 09, 2015 10:01 PM (PvCxa)

264 The thrill is long gone for Trump. The election needed to be held after his Megyn Kelly comments for him to have a legitimate shot.

Rubio is the best choice for the general election.

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2015 10:22 PM (zuE92)

265 @249 Seventh day Adventists are Trinitarian. Their denomination is accepted within larger evangelical communities as well (meaning the differences are fairly minor and on important points like the divinity of Christ they are obviously in agreement). The idea promulgated earlier in the thread that they are same as Jehovah's Witnesses is a pathetic attempt at slander. Spend five seconds googling and take a look at their beliefs and you can easily see this to be the case. The Trinity is specifically listed as one of their fundamental beliefs.

Posted by: Sjg at November 09, 2015 10:48 PM (eNUG5)

266 Posted by: Sjg at November 09, 2015 10:48 PM (eNUG5)

I provided two links, one from Walid Shoebat and one from a former SAD. So, I spent "five minutes" and found out they are NOT Trinitarians. They have a false Jesus.

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 11:02 PM (xetep)

267 264
The thrill is long gone for Trump. The election needed to be held after
his Megyn Kelly comments for him to have a legitimate shot.

Rubio is the best choice for the general election.

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2015 10:22 PM (zuE92)

LOL, 10,000 ppl showed up tonight in Springfield ILLINOIS for a Trump rally. The thrill is hardly "gone". But, then, you're an admitted Rubio supporter, sooooo.....

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 11:06 PM (xetep)

268 Sorry, but I consider their own statement of beliefs more authoritative than your sources.

Posted by: Sjg at November 09, 2015 11:09 PM (eNUG5)

269 Posted by: Aslan's Girl at November 09, 2015 11:02 PM (xetep)

I don't know who this Walid Shoebat person is or why you think his name means something, but take it straight from the horse's mouth: I'm an SDA and I know the church believes in the Trinity.

It's the 2nd fundamental belief of the church's 28, for goodness sake: That the Godhead, the Trinity, comprises God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Also, can you stop calling us "SADs"?

Posted by: Yoshi, Aggrieved Victim of the White Man at November 09, 2015 11:17 PM (CWA4I)

270 I get it, Ace doesn't like Trump...I do.

Carson supports TPP, Amnesty and gun confiscation. ..what is there to like about him?
I really don't think people understand that about him

Posted by: gonzotx at November 10, 2015 05:22 AM (eV1YV)

271 Damn, now Ace the Fearless Capitalizer is pimping Monmouth polls?

Posted by: Bildung at November 10, 2015 06:37 AM (za0BN)

272 That is quite bizarre.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 10, 2015 05:44 PM (z/Ubi)

273 "What I conclude from this is that Trump thinks Carson is going to beat him in Iowa and he doesn't like that."

Trumps bluster works in NYC but not out in the cow pastures.

Posted by: Levin at November 10, 2015 06:55 PM (eOdp2)

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