Trump in Sioux City, Iowa: "What the Hell Are You People Doing to Me?"

Fairly amusing speech by Trump in which he tells Iowa to "get its ass in gear" and put him back at the top, instead of second place, which is says is "terrible," at least for him.

Joe Scarborough made a point I was making a couple of weeks ago: Trump looked fine when he was winning, but what happens when he starts losing? Does he get all pissy?

Well, based on this one speech (and it's just the one; we don't know what he'll be like if Carson holds his Iowa lead), he's handling it pretty well. It plainly bothers him, and he's kind of obsessing over it (as he always obsesses over poll numbers, or the ratings --- poll numbers are just the ratings for politicians, right?), but he's kind of funny about it.

Thanks to... I want to say Vic but I know that's wrong.

Meanwhile, a YouGov poll has Trump well ahead of Carson, by 14 points, nationally.

Posted by: Ace at 05:39 PM

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1 Headline Jujitsu

Posted by: First-Rate Political Hack at October 28, 2015 05:41 PM (tbcy2)

2 that link was to MSNBC; not cool, man

Posted by: English guy who makes tangential comments at October 28, 2015 05:42 PM (8CdUx)

3 You could thank Vic.

But it would be wrong.

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at October 28, 2015 05:43 PM (8ZskC)

4 Joe Scarborough. Ugh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 28, 2015 05:43 PM (8ZskC)

5 Losing in Iowa seems to be the correct path the last two cycles.

Posted by: redenzo at October 28, 2015 05:43 PM (WCnJW)

6 Trump's a bigger name nationally, but I'm not surprised Carson plays better up close and personal. Especially in Iowa.

Trump works better at a distance. Carson works better in person.

Honestly if the two teamed up they'd go a long way to offsetting each other's liabilities. Could be a damned effective pairing.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 05:44 PM (9krrF)

7 Apparently, if Trump is behind in one poll, he should quit. After all, we all know that it's going to be Jeb! or Rubio.

Posted by: mallfly at October 28, 2015 05:45 PM (qSIlh)

8 Corn subsidies under a Trump Administration would be luxurious, classy and YUUUUGE.

Posted by: Donald Trump at October 28, 2015 05:45 PM (8ZskC)

9 Trump and Carson: Ivory and ebony...

( someone had to say it )

Posted by: English guy who makes tangential comments at October 28, 2015 05:45 PM (8CdUx)

10 Corn subsidies under a Trump Administration would be luxurious, classy and YUUUUGE.

The corn silk need of his hairdresser alone must be significant.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 05:46 PM (9krrF)

11 Is there a way that we can make Iowa sit in the corner during the next primary season?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 28, 2015 05:46 PM (8ZskC)

12 I just don't think we can trust Mr Trump on women's issues like ethanol subsidies.

Posted by: totally random town hall attendee who's also a Jeb staffer at October 28, 2015 05:46 PM (awspb)

13 So according to Drudge, Limbaugh said that Republican leaders want Hillary in the White House. Does this surprise anyone here? I think it has been obvious for some time (years) that establishmentarians would rather have a liberal democrat than a conservative in the white house, or even a non-conservative wild card like Trump.

Posted by: Sambo at October 28, 2015 05:47 PM (9UV3C)

14 "we don't know what he'll be like"

That pretty much sums up how I feel about Trump. I have no real clue what he will be like. I certainly don't expect much, but maybe that is ok and for the best.

Who knows.

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 05:47 PM (gmeXX)

15 I just don't get why anybody cares about Iowa. Iowa is not representative of the nation at large. It is not predictive of the eventual nominee. And it votes democrat in the general.

Iowa is important this year only in that Trump is not leading there. In previous years, party leadership have seriously talked about reducing Iowa's role for the reasons I stated. This year, those same republicans are clinging to Iowa like a wubbie

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 05:48 PM (zOTsN)

16 The media has no idea how handle Trump, none.

Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2015 05:48 PM (ztOda)

17 english guy, that's a hoary cultural reference on this side of the olde ponde

Posted by: Feh at October 28, 2015 05:48 PM (YoW4p)

18 If Iowa doesn't get its nalgas in gear for me, I will go find cooler stuff to do.

Posted by: ︰eb! (pronounced ？ay-bb!) at October 28, 2015 05:48 PM (nSW/N)

19 Maybe Trump and Dean can sing a duet when Trump loses in EthylCornoHolwia. Dean can real off the states and Trump can yell the "yeaaagh"s.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 28, 2015 05:49 PM (aLXXe)

20 *reel

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 28, 2015 05:49 PM (aLXXe)

21 At the same rally, Trump went out into the crowd to talk to some vets.

Say what you will, the man knows how to connect with folks.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 28, 2015 05:49 PM (HMt16)

22 Really? Telling the Iowians they aren't doing enough is handling it well?
Trump has hardly hit Iowa, in fact I don't think he knows it's even a caucus (since he keeps saying "get out and vote for me!")

Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at October 28, 2015 05:49 PM (tM4uk)

23 If Iowa doesn't get its nalgas in gear for me, I will find cooler stuff to do.

Posted by: ︰eb! (pronounced ？ay-bb!) at October 28, 2015 05:49 PM (nSW/N)

24 for the next GOP debate, Joseph Djugashvili as moderator!

you're next, comrade...

Posted by: English guy who makes tangential comments at October 28, 2015 05:49 PM (8CdUx)

25 >>That pretty much sums up how I feel about Trump. I have no real clue what he will be like. I certainly don't expect much, but maybe that is ok and for the best

Trump is the untethered blimp of the Republican candidates. He's a big, white, hot air machines drifting around the country banging into things.

Nobody knows what will happen next but it's fun to watch.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (/tuJf)

26 Heard something on radio Jeb is questioning the intelligence of the voting public for not voting for him. Trump is now doing the same thing. Obozo does this often that we don't understand his genius. If I or anyone doesn't like you it's your problem.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (gE2Li)

27
I just don't think we can trust Mr Trump on women's issues like ethanol subsidies.
Posted by: totally random town hall attendee who's also a Jeb staffer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-tLwxhw6o8

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (kdS6q)

28 My friends, remember we didn't know a lot about Mr. Obama either but I think he is a swell guy you pack of wacko birds!

Posted by: John McCain at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (PMb3U)

29 GOP = democratic socialists

ie what passes for center right in EUrope

Posted by: Feh at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (YoW4p)

30 Well, if Absolute Genius Political Consultant and All-Around Savant Wick Rilson gets his way (per Breitbart), some GOPe-r will put a bullet in Trump's head, and we'll never know how good he could have been.

Those Marco Rubio fans are vicious....

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (qiCMH)

31 Iowa is full of religious democrats who are hooked on welfare.

Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum have previously won Iowa.

Iowa is has gone Donk in 88, 92, 96, 00, 08 and 12.

They are of no significance to gauging who will become the GOP nominee.

In Trump speak, they are a bunch of losers and can safely be ignored.

Posted by: Kreplach at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (2yquu)

32 . This year, those same republicans are clinging to Iowa like a wubbie

Except they are getting their asses kicked by the other outsider, too.

Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2015 05:50 PM (ztOda)

33 Jackstraw, I do find it amusing, the reactions to it even more so.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 05:51 PM (gwDMH)

34 another new hash. hmm

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 05:51 PM (gwDMH)

35 At the same rally, Trump went out into the crowd to talk to some vets.

Like me, he is also a person who enjoys fun and fun situations.

http://tinyurl.com/nfsaayz

Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at October 28, 2015 05:51 PM (8ZskC)

36 Heard something on radio Jeb is questioning the intelligence of the voting public for not voting for him. Trump is now doing the same thing. Obozo does this often that we don't understand his genius. If I or anyone doesn't like you it's your problem.
Posted by: Skip

But when Trump does it, we like it.

Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2015 05:52 PM (ztOda)

37 Oh yeah, you'll be back! Eventually, you will all see that I am the Chosen One!

Posted by: Jeb! at October 28, 2015 05:52 PM (Xx2PC)

38 last election GOPe hated Iowa because they cling to religion and God and give us icky candidates like Huckabee

this election cycle, GOPe loves Iowa for clinging to religion and getting rid of icky candidates like Trump

its ridiculous

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 05:52 PM (zOTsN)

39 Except they are getting their asses kicked by the other outsider, too.

Yep. They blame Trump to avoid admitting the real problem: themselves.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 28, 2015 05:52 PM (9krrF)

40 If Iowa doesn't get its nalgas in gear for me, I will find cooler stuff to do.

Posted by: ︰eb! (pronounced ？ay-bb!) at October 28, 2015 05:52 PM (nSW/N)

41 Also heard a poll taker on radio say actual voters like substance as opposed to general potential voters.

Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2015 05:52 PM (gE2Li)

42 Holy crap, Rick Wilson sounds deranged.

Posted by: Leon Frank Czolgosz at October 28, 2015 05:53 PM (aLXXe)

43 I completely agree with ace in this post.

As ace put it so perfectly, Trump is a danger to himself and others. He must be stopped. Before he kills again. Again ace I am in total agreement with you. Your post was excellent. And as I said before, I agreed with it.

I completely agree with ace in this post.

Posted by: Red State Commenter at October 28, 2015 05:53 PM (0dcbp)

44 The media has no idea how handle Trump, none.

Posted by: Jean

Part of that is the conservatives don't know how to handle the media. Never apologizing for inane bullshit is probably 80% of Trump's success.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 05:53 PM (2oWD2)

45 Trump acts out how i feel about life at this point.

Do you like what i'm doing or where i'm at?
no , well fk you then..
If you do ,aren't you just the most yugely fabulous person in the room.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 05:53 PM (gwDMH)

46 Off danmed sock!

Posted by: Commissar M at October 28, 2015 05:53 PM (Xx2PC)

47 Trump is the untethered blimp of the Republican candidates. He's a big, white, hot air machines drifting around the country banging into things.

Nobody knows what will happen next but it's fun to watch.

------------

He really is the wild card.

Its Always Sunny had a funny episode where I think Charlie was the wild card (maybe Mac) - I think the one where the gang tried to solve the gas crisis and they were driving around a drum of gas within an old van. Charlie would break out a lighter as the wild card. This GOP race is sort of like that episode. A bunch of weirdos who think they are super smart driving around with a drum of gas. And Trump is holding the lighter.

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 05:53 PM (gmeXX)

48 Thanks to... I want to say Vic but I know that's wrong.

Thanks to Vic for heads up on Trump's blast??? No, I didn't give you that one. I gave you the impeach IRS thing yesterday.

Posted by: Skt King Announcer on Sat Morn at October 28, 2015 05:54 PM (t2KH5)

49
Can we cut the shit the Carson polls, please?

Ben Carson -- I like him. Heck, I respect him. But the man is the shittiest presdiential candidate I've ever seen.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 05:54 PM (/QyKy)

50 Friendly reminder:

If 30M illegals become citizens, 29M of those will be life long Democrats. In other words WHO THE FUCK CARES? Everything else besides amnesty is moot. If it happens, it's over.

But hey, let's keep obsessing over useless shit like how each candidate reacts to poll numbers, cuz you know....important!!

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 28, 2015 05:54 PM (0LHZx)

51 Damn it--that's the dude with the free helicopter rides,isn't it?

Posted by: Dirigible One at October 28, 2015 05:55 PM (mcm0N)

52 I wouldn't care how whiny or immature he acted at this point.

The more I hear about Carson, the more misgivings I have. He's dead to me at this point.

Thanks for being fair, ace. I know you don't like him, but you are good at taking those to task who come up with fake reasons for not liking him.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 28, 2015 05:55 PM (E5UB0)

53 Trump has to be careful not to be too gallant with Hillary

she will feel free to be policy wonk and make him look
silly

Posted by: Feh at October 28, 2015 05:55 PM (YoW4p)

54 If Iowa doesn't get its nalgas in gear for me, I have cooler stuff to do.

Posted by: Jeb! (pronounced ？ay-bb!) at October 28, 2015 05:55 PM (nSW/N)

55 Trump works better at a distance. Carson works better in person.

Honestly if the two teamed up they'd go a long way to offsetting each other's liabilities. Could be a damned effective pairing.

Trump / Carson 2016 would allow Carson to brush up on his executive and dot gov bonafides.

But Trump / Palin 2016 for the head splosions.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2015 05:55 PM (H/5vA)

56
Ben Carson looks like he's sleeping with his eyes open.

He's leading the polls??

My ass he is.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 05:55 PM (/QyKy)

57 ThunderB i think they wanted to serve up the usual spammed mystery meat and say again to us . So? who else you gonna vote for?
bwahahahaha.

get on board or else.

and now they are mad as hell at us rubes.

and as JimmyMCracken Corn said, and i don't care.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 05:56 PM (gwDMH)

58 I can see your blimp from my house.

Posted by: Sarah Palin at October 28, 2015 05:56 PM (2oWD2)

59 How many times has Trump been written off as done already?

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2015 05:56 PM (8HTq1)

60 If 30M illegals become citizens, 29M of those will be life long Democrats. In other words WHO THE FUCK CARES? Everything else besides amnesty is moot. If it happens, it's over.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

You mean we get 1 million more voters? That sounds like a deal!

Posted by: GOPe at October 28, 2015 05:56 PM (awspb)

61 I'll repeat my take on Trump. He has switched Parties 5 times for running for offices up in and around NY. He switches parties when it is convenient to him for a run. He also contributes heavily to the Democrat Party and even Scankles.

Unfortunately he is the only one on the right side of the amnesty issue; IF you can trust his rhetoric. I simply do not trust his rhetoric.

Posted by: Skt King Announcer on Sat Morn at October 28, 2015 05:56 PM (t2KH5)

62 Today's fun fact: since 1976, the sturdy yeoman farming folk of Iowa have, in their Republican caucuses, picked an eventual general election winner precisely one time. One. Time.

Forty years of floundering failure.

Hey, kids, I've got a great idea! Let's take these ridiculous hayseeds with a horrible track record and let them step up in the very first rounds of the delegate selection process! Over and over again!

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 05:57 PM (noWW6)

63 Trump is a nuclear weapon aimed generally at the Establishment.

After he detonates, there will be fallout and innocent casualties.

But hey it's come to this -

'you gotta nuke something' - Nelson Muntz

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 05:57 PM (0dcbp)

64 Oh look it's the liberal cow!

Isn't there a hockey game)

Posted by: Dirigible One at October 28, 2015 05:57 PM (mcm0N)

65
Donald Trump sure knows how to work a crowd. He really is excellent in front of people.

But I give him a C- one-on-one with a "reporter."

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 05:57 PM (/QyKy)

66 >>Ben Carson looks like he's sleeping with his eyes open.

>>He's leading the polls??

>>My ass he is.

Last cycle on almost the exact same date, Herman Cain was leading the polls. They don't mean all that much right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 05:57 PM (/tuJf)

67 If Iowa doesn't get its nalgas in gear for me, I have cooler stuff to do.

Posted by: Jeb!

Like catchin' blimps and shit.

Posted by: Dang at October 28, 2015 05:57 PM (2oWD2)

68 Forty years of floundering failure.

Hey, kids, I've got a great idea! Let's take these ridiculous hayseeds with a horrible track record and let them step up in the very first rounds of the delegate selection process! Over and over again!

Posted by: torquewrench

Great idea! How could we go wrong?

Posted by: GOPe at October 28, 2015 05:58 PM (awspb)

69 is Carson on valium

Posted by: Feh at October 28, 2015 05:58 PM (YoW4p)

70 Someone commented today that it would be interesting to see who is in charge of the country on Friday afternoon if Dr. Carson wins.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 05:59 PM (0dcbp)

71
I don't think [Trump] knows it's even a caucus (since he keeps saying "get out and vote for me!")
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c)

Yes, that certainly is a bizarre and tortured phrasing, completely unlike what any other speaker would use. Imagine, saying "vote", instead of the more technically exacting "caucusing".

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 28, 2015 05:59 PM (kdS6q)

72 My ass he is.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 05:55 PM

Identity Politics, Buckaroo. Carson is getting the benefit of the GOPe "hey, we can elect a black dude, too!" bunch.

I don't think he's a bad guy. But I think he would be so far over his head as President that he wouldn't know what hit him.

Bein' Preezy ain't brain surgery....

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 28, 2015 05:59 PM (qiCMH)

73 Remember, because of this silly Iowa caucus we have ethanol. Thats a 10% hit to your wallet with every tank of gas. Fuck Iowa.

Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (ztOda)

74 meh i still like Mr Carson, I like his calm in the storm i've been feeling.
But i really like Trump because He is exemplifies how i feel about laying down and just Taking it anymore.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (gwDMH)

75 Trump is SMOD. If he trashes the establishment GOP in a cleansing fire, allowing for new growth, fine.

make it so

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (zOTsN)

76 Wait 'til Trump finds out that "You're Fired" is impossible with federal employees.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (0dcbp)

77 Ben Carson -- I like him. Heck, I respect him. But the man is the shittiest presdiential candidate I've ever seen.

He's the worst!

Posted by: Rick Santorum at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (1RNgT)

78 >>>that link was to MSNBC; not cool, man

hey, i know... but the other vids were of the whole speech, and I didn't want to sit through a long speech waiting for the one part.

Posted by: ace at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (dciA+)

79 >>I don't think he's a bad guy. But I think he would be so far over his head as President that he wouldn't know what hit him.

After 7 years of Obama I don't think anyone could do a worse job. I'll take Carson's resume over Obama's any day.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 06:01 PM (/tuJf)

80 Remember, because of this silly Iowa caucus we have ethanol. Thats a 10% hit to your wallet with every tank of gas. Fuck Iowa.
Posted by: Jean

Also, it takes 4 gallons of diesel to produce 1 gallon of ethanol, so that makes it renewable and green & shit.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 28, 2015 06:01 PM (awspb)

81 OOps sock off

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 06:01 PM (t2KH5)

82 How many times has Trump been written off as done already?

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2015 05:56 PM

If you just count the times the Salem Witches have declared him the equivalent of the Monty Python Parrot, you'd have a number larger than Choom Boy's national debt.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 28, 2015 06:02 PM (qiCMH)

83 Ima keep saying it. Carson is dead to me because he wants to be a uniter. I want a destroyer.

If that's Trump, so be it.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 06:03 PM (NHQQx)

84
If Trump is elected he will become the establishment's best friend, but I do love watching Jeb be bamboozled by all of this.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2015 06:03 PM (ODxAs)

85 Trump, like an out of control blimp!

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at October 28, 2015 06:03 PM (wAQA5)

86 Ben Carson -- I like him. Heck, I respect him. But the man is the shittiest presdiential candidate I've ever seen.

He's the worst!
Posted by: Rick Santorum at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (1RNgT)

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Nothing for nothing, but Santorum basically finished 2nd in the GOP race last time on a shoestring budget. Sure it was a weak field. And Carson is running 2nd right now on a candidacy that was basically built on one speech. There are far worse candidates than those two.

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 06:03 PM (gmeXX)

87
Did you hear that Juan Ellis is reviving his idiot father's "voodoo" economics jab?

Back in 1980 during the primaries, it was that piece of shit George Bush who said Reagan's economic plan was "voodoo economics," which the Democrats and media seized and co-opted. Unfortunately, Reagan chose that shitheel Bush as a running mate, even though he didn't need him.

Anyway, one of Juan Ellis' advisors is out there now labeling Trump's economic plan "flimflam" economics.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:04 PM (/QyKy)

88 Where have you gone, Mary from Vermont? This Thread and the Horde turn their lonely eyes to you ...

Posted by: Morris Dancinstein at October 28, 2015 06:04 PM (nSW/N)

89 The RNCe has got behind Ratfvck Rubio now since Jebbie The Hutt has crashed and burned at the polls.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM (t2KH5)

90 Reagan picked Bush as an olive branch to the establishment that hated him.Yeah,it was one of his worst mistakes.

Posted by: steevy at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM (8HTq1)

91 How is Carson any less qualified then:

Obama - blew $100M, but looked cool doing it
Biden - maybe had 25 total staffers once or twice in his career
Ryan - ran a Congressional Office of ~ 20 people
Gore - maybe had 25 total staffers once or twice in his career
Dole - ran a Congressional Office of ~ 20 people
Kemp - ran a Congressional Office of ~ 20 people

Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM (ztOda)

92 I catch Rush on Tune-in app and the current radio station is out of Sioux City. Every.Fucking.Ad. is Jeb bush...every one....LOL

I Like Trump. He's the only one that can blow the GOP into a million unrecognizable pieces....and I dun no...I feel good when I listen to Trump...for peons like us (no offense, just saying) it really doesn't matter who is president, but at least Trump doesn't sound like an angry wife....

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM (uJK1E)

93 Pharmaceuticals are a hell of a drug, bitch.

Posted by: Ben "Rick" Carson at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM (wAQA5)

94 76 Wait 'til Trump finds out that "You're Fired" is impossible with federal employees.

Pen and phone.
Also, wipe out whole depts.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM (H/5vA)

95 Blano i would like a uniter as long as it unites US the people against the assholes that have led us all down the cherry patch and have been tossing a wrecking ball through the country , fiscally, civily while telling us to enjoy the ride.

you know unlike the community organizer

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (gwDMH)

96 Anyway, one of Juan Ellis' advisors is out there now labeling Trump's economic plan "flimflam" economics.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo

Way to distance yourself from the dynasty charge Heb.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (awspb)

97 Anyway, one of Juan Ellis' advisors is out there now labeling Trump's economic plan "flimflam" economics.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:04 PM

We're being bamboozled? Hornswoggled? Teh Donald workin' some roots on us?

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (qiCMH)

98 Trump is SMOD. If he trashes the establishment GOP in a cleansing fire, allowing for new growth, fine.

Trump is more likely to trash the conservatives in congress than the establishment pricks he more closely resembles. But I'm sure the narrative you guys have dreamed up in your circle-jerk is comforting.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (1RNgT)

99 IF you can trust his rhetoric. I simply do not trust his rhetoric.

So here we are: a whole slate of candidates who either outright promise to do the nonconsensual sodomy to you, or who won't take much of a stance about nonconsensual sodomy. And here are one or two candidates who say, "hey, maybe we should ask you before we ream out your butts".

That's the GOP.

Posted by: Leon Frank Czolgosz at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (aLXXe)

100 77 Ben Carson -- I like him. Heck, I respect him. But the man is the shittiest presdiential candidate I've ever seen.
He's the worst!
Posted by: Rick Santorum at October 28, 2015 06:00 PM (1RNgT)

Preach it!

Posted by: Lindsay Graham at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (DofIg)

101 87 Unfortunately, Reagan chose that shitheel Bush as a running mate, even though he didn't need him.

Anyway, one of Juan Ellis' advisors is out there now labeling Trump's economic plan "flimflam" economics.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:04 PM (/QyKy)

My understanding was the "Party" foisted him off on Reagan and he never liked him at all.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (t2KH5)

102 Rubios biggest donor has told him to step on the gas according to Politico

GOPe on GOPe crime

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:07 PM (zOTsN)

103 >>Nothing for nothing, but Santorum basically finished 2nd in the GOP race last time on a shoestring budget. Sure it was a weak field. And Carson is running 2nd right now on a candidacy that was basically built on one speech. There are far worse candidates than those two.

He finished 2nd much the same way Huck did in the previous cycle. Neither would quit long after it was obvious to everyone they had zero chance of winning. And Santorum was spending Foster Friess' money so he wasn't exactly penniless.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2015 06:07 PM (/tuJf)

104 Pen and phone.

Also, wipe out whole depts.

Posted by: rickb223

I am so good with that.

The bad part is that the unemployable zombie herd will then be out wandering the streets.

'Night of the Living Feds'

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 06:07 PM (0dcbp)

105 Wait 'til Trump finds out that "You're Fired" is impossible with federal employees.

EO + Pen

Remember the Air Traffic Controllers thought they couldn't be fired either.

Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2015 06:08 PM (ztOda)

106 62 Today's fun fact: since 1976, the sturdy yeoman farming folk of Iowa have, in their Republican caucuses, picked an eventual general election winner precisely one time. One. Time.

_______

Not much better on the Dem side either. They picked Obama in 2008 and that's about it in the past 40 years.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 28, 2015 06:08 PM (0LHZx)

107 Trump is more likely to trash the conservatives in congress than the establishment pricks he more closely resembles. But I'm sure the narrative you guys have dreamed up in your circle-jerk is comforting.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 28, 2015 06:06 PM (1RNgT)

fine

who would you vote for in the primary

who is the answer

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:08 PM (zOTsN)

108 i know some think Carson deliberative way of addressing an issue is annoying , maybe it doesn't really bug me as i know i do that myself.

(The look) close eyes.
heck definitely not the calmness He maintains.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:09 PM (gwDMH)

109 Carson has to win. What happens when you let a relative unknown get introduced to the public by the Liberal media?

Trump is already hinting at what the problem might be with Carson, I hope it's wrong, but it's easily verifiable.

Here we go again.

Posted by: Dirigible One at October 28, 2015 06:09 PM (mcm0N)

110
and Juan Ellis said yeah he's planning to go after Trump tonight...especially if he's too pessimistic on America

so Juan Ellis is running on...optimism, now? Hope?

What a loser. I hope Donald Trump goes down the line tonight and calls them all Losers.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:09 PM (/QyKy)

111 I would feel better voting for Donald if he were a Senator no one ever heard of that voted present on everything.....

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 28, 2015 06:09 PM (uJK1E)

112 Posted by: Jean at October 28, 2015 06:05 PM

With the exception of Choom Boy, none of your examples became President.

Again: Carson isn't bad. But, IMO, he's not quite good enough and given the carnage of the last seven years, he's not good enough for what we need now. Which, sadly, is a hardass blowhard who isn't afraid to speak his mind.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 28, 2015 06:09 PM (qiCMH)

113 Sure beats the ice-cold state of the humorless muzzie that's president now.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2015 06:09 PM (c1/ff)

114 circle jerk.

how to win people to your side.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:10 PM (gwDMH)

115 I'll repeat my take on Trump. He has switched Parties 5 times for running for offices up in and around NY.
Posted by: Skt King Announcer on Sat Morn at October 28, 2015 05:56 PM (t2KH5)

_______

What has he run for?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 28, 2015 06:10 PM (0LHZx)

116 Trump is more likely to trash the conservatives in congress than the establishment pricks he more closely resembles.

Yeah!

Like Jeff Sessions!

Who wrote and consulted on his Immigration Plan!

Or maybe 'No'!

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 06:10 PM (0dcbp)

117 You guys close off to debate, and then you get shocked when you are hit with arguments you have no exposure to.

Posted by: Dirigible One at October 28, 2015 06:11 PM (mcm0N)

118 fine

who would you vote for in the primary

who is the answer

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Well with Perry and Walker out, I'm left with the following in this very loose order: Jindal, Cruz, Rubio/Christie, Carson/Fiorina .... Trump ... will not vote for Jeb or Kasich ... Paul (he is now in the Gilmore/Pataki category).

Did I miss anyone?

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (gmeXX)

119 Im just afraid establishment Congress would run over President Carson

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (zOTsN)

120 have we yet picke out names for those campaign jeers?
Trumpbots? or is that old stuff?
what about BenTards?
Jebsuckers?
Rubiofanboiys?

we need a typeset made out to beat the oncoming rush.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (gwDMH)

121 State=stare. Ice-cold STARE.

Damn autocucumber

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (c1/ff)

122
Trump is more likely to trash the conservatives in congress than the establishment pricks he more closely resembles.

He should give us a call if he finds one.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (0dcbp)

123 Now that Delaware has attacked Pennsylvania the Second Civil War Balloon has finally gone up.

Posted by: DaveA at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (DL2i+)

124 Well with Perry and Walker out, I'm left with the following in this very loose order: Jindal, Cruz, Rubio/Christie, Carson/Fiorina .... Trump ... will not vote for Jeb or Kasich ... Paul (he is now in the Gilmore/Pataki category).

Did I miss anyone?
Posted by: SH a

no thats good

I was asking Gristle Encased Head

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (zOTsN)

125 Agree willow, I just don't know who would be willing to do that and take on the subsequent onslaught from the scum.

don't think anybody wants "us" anymore. "We" are a permanent minority without the freebies and preferences.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 06:12 PM (sdPF/)

126
It is laughable that some of you want to notice Trump's insincerity.

First of all, I don't give a shit.

Second, they're all big phonies.

George Bush? He's a big fucking phony. All that pro-life talk? It was all bullshit. He funded planned parenthood for 8 years just like obama.

Oh an Bush loves the soldiers!!! Just look at how he visits them!!! What a bunch of horseshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:13 PM (/QyKy)

127 circle jerk.

how to win people to your side.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:10 PM (gwDMH)

What, no credit for not calling you a Trumptard? Some of you assholes are impossible to please.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 28, 2015 06:13 PM (1RNgT)

128 ThunderB, They might or He might decide to set up shop like an operating theater ?

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:13 PM (gwDMH)

129 Off crazy immigrant Balkan anarchist sock

It's not like those guys ever got anyone in trouble before

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 28, 2015 06:13 PM (aLXXe)

130 117 You guys close off to debate, and then you get shocked when you are hit with arguments you have no exposure to.
______________________________
Nope.....we just pepper people with snide remarks and sarcasm

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 28, 2015 06:13 PM (uJK1E)

131 Oh an Bush loves the soldiers!!! Just look at how he visits them!!! What a bunch of horseshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:13 PM (/QyKy

______

And he wears an American flag lapel pin, so he totes luvs 'Murica!!

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 28, 2015 06:14 PM (0LHZx)

132 Are you allowed to comment hear if your not wearing socks? (I'm asking for a friend)

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 28, 2015 06:14 PM (uJK1E)

133 somebody should trash Congress

dont you think, Gristle Encased Head?

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:14 PM (zOTsN)

134 Nope.....we just pepper people with snide remarks and sarcasm

-----

SOP at AOSHQ

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 06:14 PM (gmeXX)

135 well i thought i was going to be a Jindal girl the last few weeks But i see, He might be papering over His States economy?
anyone here verify that or is this just campaign b.s?

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:14 PM (gwDMH)

136 Oh an Bush loves the soldiers!!! Just look at how he visits them!!! What a bunch of horseshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:13 PM (/QyKy

______

And he wears an American flag lapel pin, so he totes luvs 'Murica!!

--------

Ha ha - we can attack Bush too.

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 06:15 PM (gmeXX)

137 Gristle head, do as you please.

I think it is all hysterical.

all.of.it

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:16 PM (gwDMH)

138 Anyway, one of Juan Ellis' advisors is out there now labeling Trump's economic plan "flimflam" economics.

He should have gone with "Santeria Economics". You know, to play to his strengths.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 28, 2015 06:16 PM (aLXXe)

139 GWB is a decent guy, but he totally played up the gee shucks, I'm just a regular Joe from Texas y'all....yeah a regular joe who went to the most elite prep school in New England followed by Yale and Harvard Bidness School.

Nothing wrong with having gone to Yale, but just don't insult my intelligence by telling me you're just a down home country boy who loves working on the ranch.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 28, 2015 06:16 PM (0LHZx)

140 >>> I don't think [Trump] knows it's even a caucus (since he keeps saying "get out and vote for me!")
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c)
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He probably doesn't, but the people he has hired in Iowa do know how the caucus system work. He delegates and hires good people from what I have seen so far.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 06:16 PM (EdhH3)

141 Blano, i guess we really just needed to go along with the show no-matter where it goes.

i have an inkling of where it goes,\.
so i'm not going quietly.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:17 PM (gwDMH)

142 Flimflam.....do you serve that with red or white wine?...I know Canadians put gravy on it.....

Posted by: Mr.KnowItAll at October 28, 2015 06:18 PM (uJK1E)

143 Iowa is 'Fargo' without the Amer-kraut accents

Posted by: English guy who makes tangential comments at October 28, 2015 06:18 PM (8CdUx)

144 What has he run for?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 28, 2015 06:10 PM (0LHZx)

He has run for Mayor of NYC two or three times. I don't know about the rest. The 5 times number is one I saw on another site. I'm sure there is some place that has documented all the offices he has ran for and you should google them up and report back too us.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 06:20 PM (t2KH5)

145

who hasnt been exposed to the anti trump arguments?

people who cant read and dont have ears?

the MFM and the vast majority of conservative punditry have been having fits about him

from Rick Wilson, to Jon Gabriel, to John Podhoritz, to Red Steeze, to NRO, and on and on and on

it is impossible to not know the arguments and issues that militate against Trump

its is not about a lack of knowing

it is about a lack of giving a shit and not seeing a difference from the other candidates

they all have ego

they all have done or said things contrary to their now stated conservatism

all

of

them

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:20 PM (zOTsN)

146 Iowa is 'Fargo' without the Amer-kraut accents
Posted by: English guy who makes tangential comments

Youbetcha

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 28, 2015 06:20 PM (awspb)

147 >>Trump is more likely to trash the conservatives in congress than the establishment pricks he more closely resembles. But I'm sure the narrative you guys have dreamed up in your circle-jerk is comforting.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head

You need to be nicer to us or we won't let you have your usual spot in the center.

Posted by: Aviator at October 28, 2015 06:20 PM (c7vUv)

148 somebody should trash Congress

dont you think, Gristle Encased Head?

Totally! If someone says some words that I agree with, the most reasonable thing to do is disregard his entire past and wholeheartedly believe his most recent words!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 28, 2015 06:21 PM (1RNgT)

149 John McCain rips Tea Party, Fox News, calls Hillary Clinton a rock star Tea Party support has dropped to its lowest in history,

Sen. John McCain's attack on Tea Party hobbits

John McCain: Tea Party Senators Wacko Birds

(Arealmanofthepeoplesguys)

that's who we were told to vote for.

someone so diametrically opposed to anything the country needs..

and Romney?

Obamcare is mine really all mine a Great thing I Started it you Know with Romneycare.

so anyway

Hell No

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:21 PM (gwDMH)

150 they all have done or said things contrary to their now stated conservatism

Not I.

Posted by: Zombie Gen LeMay, Candidate Emeritus at October 28, 2015 06:22 PM (ztOda)

151 Nothing wrong with having gone to Yale, but just don't insult my intelligence by telling me you're just a down home country boy who loves working on the ranch.

------

Can't you be both? W doesn't seem like much of a phony with wanting to work on his ranch.

Posted by: SH at October 28, 2015 06:22 PM (gmeXX)

152 GOPe/COCs like illegals not just for cheap (and subsidized) labor, but for their alleged economic stimulus. As the MN governor said, "I can't grow the economy with just you white folk, so if you don't love diversity, move".

With illegals come more spending, even if it is welfare supported. More jobs to build their homes, Medicaid collections, etc., with money forcibly taken from taxpayers.

With so much debt, only growth (or much more debt) can keep the pyramid scheme growing. Hence the lie about the young illegals funding our Medicare .. even though they will not cover the cost of their own Medicaid/care, or the other subsidies, and they are bringing their old and sick with them.

But Trump perhaps would return many that are costing us. Cruz might do that, but the establishment also hates Cruz, and he seems less likely to be able to win without them. It will be a wild ride.

Posted by: Illiniwek at October 28, 2015 06:23 PM (1XT+t)

153 Trump floated the idea of running for president in 1988, 2004, and 2012, and for governor of New York in 2006 and 2014, but did not enter those races.

according to wiki

he hasnt run for anything before but he has talked about it

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:23 PM (zOTsN)

154 i love Obamcare
I love the fiscal cliff wtach
I love the NSA
I love the IRS
I love the ransacking of political opponents homes
I Love the Iranian deals.
I loved every minute of the last 7 years and Thos Upstanding Leaders letting them all walk.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:24 PM (gwDMH)

155 i have not seen one minute of one debate, nor a single news show interview with trump or any of the candidates, but i watched the clip.

trump is entertaining and very engaging as a public speaker. like reagan, he's hoed it over decades of engagements and speeches. but whereas reagan'n subject was conservative politics, trump's is himself. we'll see if it maintains.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 28, 2015 06:25 PM (WTSFk)

156 he hasnt run for anything before but he has talked about it

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:23 PM (zOTsN)

I thought he had run for mayor of NYC at least twice.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 06:25 PM (t2KH5)

157 I want the blimp to fly again. That was fun.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2015 06:25 PM (c1/ff)

158 13 So according to Drudge, Limbaugh said that Republican leaders want Hillary in the White House. Does this surprise anyone here? I think it has been obvious for some time (years) that establishmentarians would rather have a liberal democrat than a conservative in the white house, or even a non-conservative wild card like Trump.
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I'm having a hard time believing that a good number of Pubs aren't just plants by the Democratic party. If you have a conservative district, in order to get somebody that votes Dem that will fool the constituents you have to run a Dem who claims to be a Pub. Plus Dems in Pub clothes doesn't ring the same alarms that a 80% majority party might. But, the Dem-Pubs can't just vote Dem, so they have to talk conservative and find a way to simply fumble the ball to the other team.

Posted by: Axeman at October 28, 2015 06:25 PM (2mC6G)

159 I'm back and forth willow between not going quietly and just sitting back and enjoying the flames, hopefully to pick up some pieces on the other side.

I just wish it would happen in my lifetime so I could see for myself how it turns out. Ain't getting any younger.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 06:25 PM (sdPF/)

160 I want Cruz but he needs GOPe and they will never let him win

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:25 PM (zOTsN)

161 honed it (not hoed it)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 28, 2015 06:26 PM (WTSFk)

162 "Remember the Air Traffic Controllers thought they couldn't be fired either."

Just a couple of weeks ago I was down by the SF airport, and found myself behind a car with a "NATCA For Obama" bumper sticker.

What is NATCA? It's the union for the air traffic controllers.

Wait, what? Didn't Reagan fire all of those clowns and decertify their union?

He sure did. The _previous_ air traffic controllers' union, PATCO.

Then Reagan hired in replacement air traffic controllers. Who as soon as they settled in to their new jobs, promptly voted to unionize themselves. It actually happened before Reagan left office. Total time elapsed in between the two different unions was about five years.

It's like trying to get rid of cockroaches.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 06:26 PM (noWW6)

163 Boehner, send us money to get enough elected so we Can Fight to appeal Obamacare.

Send us money to stop out of control spending!

we can do nothing with only a 1/3

we can do nothing with more

just send us money. To work for You.

(I think they must have been speaking to COC and i got on the wrong mailing list)

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:26 PM (gwDMH)

164 he hasnt run for anything before but he has talked about it

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:23 PM (zOTsN)

I thought he had run for mayor of NYC at least twice.
Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 06:25 PM (t2KH5)

nope

talked about it. but then he talks a lot

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:27 PM (zOTsN)

165 Trump will be totally focused on Carson tonight while everyone else will be focused on knee-capping Trump. This is the last chance for a lot of them if they don't pick up some traction from the debate. Carson will win it tonight.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 28, 2015 06:27 PM (EdhH3)

166 Blano i have children. I really am not thrilled with the idea of burning at all.
But if that's what we get I guess that's what we deal with.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:28 PM (gwDMH)

167 "Plus Dems in Pub clothes doesn't ring the same alarms that a 80%
majority party might. But, the Dem-Pubs can't just vote Dem, so they
have to talk conservative and find a way to simply fumble the ball to
the other team."

Rather than "Dem-Pubs", I prefer the more elegant coinage of referring to the "DEmocratic-RePublican" bloc, or DERP.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 06:28 PM (noWW6)

168 Then Reagan hired in replacement air traffic
controllers. Who as soon as they settled in to their new jobs, promptly
voted to unionize themselves. It actually happened before Reagan left
office. Total time elapsed in between the two different unions was about
five years.

It's like trying to get rid of cockroaches.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 06:26 PM (noWW6)

And what would you bet that the new union leadership were the same people that were in the old unions.

Posted by: Vic-we have no party at October 28, 2015 06:28 PM (t2KH5)

169 154 i love Obamcare
I love the fiscal cliff wtach
I love the NSA
I love the IRS
I love the ransacking of political opponents homes
I Love the Iranian deals.
I loved every minute of the last 7 years and Thos Upstanding Leaders letting them all walk.
Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:24 PM (gwDMH)

----------------

That's why we like you. You're just so full of love.

Posted by: Soona at October 28, 2015 06:29 PM (c1/ff)

170 Did nobody tell you folks Nood?

Posted by: BunkerinTheBurbs at October 28, 2015 06:29 PM (bA+CL)

171 i am determined between the crying sobs to fkn enjoy the show.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:29 PM (gwDMH)

172 soona i yam.

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:30 PM (gwDMH)

173
As usual, I said it before Rush.

Last week I said we'll be hearing a lot of awful things from the Republicans in 2016, mainly directed at us.

Some Republicans, such as Peter King and Kelly Ayotte will even go as far as endorsing hillary clinton.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 28, 2015 06:30 PM (/QyKy)

174

carson was asked by reporters before the debate about

evolution

they wanted to talk creationism, not the economy, but God, evolution and creationism

I wish all of the candidates would turn on the questioners instead

that would

Posted by: ThunderB, Money Will Not Overcome Voter Rejection at October 28, 2015 06:31 PM (zOTsN)

175 Sooth, and they tell US to do the right thing and vote for Their chosen one??
hahaha

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:31 PM (gwDMH)

176 ThunderB can we just tell them no?

email them and say stick to issues we are facing Right now?

Posted by: willow at October 28, 2015 06:32 PM (gwDMH)

177 "As the MN governor said, 'I can't grow the economy with just you white folk, so if you don't love diversity, move'."

After which he'll be trying to grow the Minnesocold economy with the likes of the Somali Muslim immigrants who applied for jobs as beer truck drivers, then claimed that they were being religiously discriminated against when asked to actually drive the trucks to deliver the beer, and who ended up forcing their employer out of business.

Winning!

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 06:33 PM (noWW6)

178 "Some Republicans, such as Peter King and Kelly Ayotte will even go as far as endorsing hillary clinton."

Yep. Kelly Ayotte who was just so overjoyed when the Tea Party and Sarah Palin threw their support behind her, and who then turned into such a ridiculous RINO after taking office that it even embarrassed her Senate patrons McInsane and Grahamnesty.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 28, 2015 06:36 PM (noWW6)

179 "hoed it."

I Lol'd.

Posted by: Blano at October 28, 2015 06:38 PM (NHQQx)

180 Right Torque

The destruction of our hard won successful culture is enough reason not to flood the land with third world America haters, but growing an economy by basically forcing us into socialism ... importing a larger welfare class ... is not growing an economy. It is kneecapping success and redistributing its funds, all in the shadow of monstrous burgeoning debt.

The moral thing is to cut the welfare we have now (unfunded liabilities at some $200T and growing), rather than accelerating the burn rate by importing even more welfare spenders. But that is not good for the COCs or politicians.

Posted by: Illiniwek at October 28, 2015 06:43 PM (1XT+t)

181 "It plainly bothers him, and he's kind of obsessing over it (as he always obsesses over poll numbers, or the ratings --- poll numbers are just the ratings for politicians, right?), but he's kind of funny about it."

Trump is very funny. He did a nice job here.

He's a natural born winner. Winners want to not only just win but win big. Win decisively. I'm sure he has a plan and strategy with his campaign advisers on "must win states" but that won't stop him from wanting and trying to run the table. That's what winners shoot for.

Go Trump!

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at October 28, 2015 06:48 PM (t/Mrs)

182 "132 Are you allowed to comment hear if your not wearing socks? (I'm asking for a friend)"

But of course! It emphasizes cankles, if you're lucky enough to have them.

Posted by: Hillary! at October 28, 2015 06:50 PM (nSW/N)

183 I thought Trump was being semi humorous. Bu true to form, especially Krauthamer et al, Trump sore loser when behind.

Posted by: gracepc at October 28, 2015 06:55 PM (DMQhB)

184 For trump being the smartest guy in the room he forgot who won in 2008 & 2012 in Iowa. They weren't the GOP nominee.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 28, 2015 07:42 PM (P4OkF)

185 Sock are mandatory. Pants optional

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 28, 2015 07:43 PM (QvClr)

186 I think this shtick could work for Trump. He is trying to communicate that he wants their support but they need to meet him half way. I said shtick. But it can work if you are a billionaire TV personality. This speech gives him something to point to if questioned about his drop. Coming in second in Iowa to Carson could be played as a positive. Last in Iowa would definitely hurt.

Posted by: just saying at October 28, 2015 08:01 PM (PGh+Q)

187 Meh. Trump was being somewhat humorous...for him at least.

Polls aside, he can't afford to tic off *any* state at the moment so he's going to do his "Aw Shucks, Folks!" during this news-week to try to push his IA poll numbers back to where he's top dog again.

If it doesn't work, and Carson stays firm or even leads...I think THEN he'll say the poll doesn't count, and touts the ones he's still up in, like NH, etc.

I hope Carson AND Trump do okay, but the divide between Trump NOW! supporters and those that are for anyone else gets amazingly mean spirited sometimes...and that's putting it mildly.

Posted by: BlaxPac at October 28, 2015 08:48 PM (tL0rn)

188 Lest I forget, Cruz as well...I really hope his damned number climb up.

Can't for the life of me figure out why he isn't doing better.

Posted by: BlaxPac at October 28, 2015 09:15 PM (tL0rn)

189 I've been a member of You Gov for years and have learned to take any of their political polls with an entire dump truck of salt. All the on-line polling firms amass a huge amount of information about the people who have signed up with them. They can use this push desired results when it comes to any poll by including of excluding people from the pool. I used to get a political poll from You -Gov every month to six weeks. Since I gave them a couple on very non-PC answers, they only send me polls on snack foods and mouthwash.

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