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New Star Wars Trailer Stirs Nostalgia, Racial Grievance

Looks pretty good. (Also, embedded below.)


The racial grievance angle is white racial grievance, with some neoconfenderates allegedly rankled to see a black stormtrooper.

Now, if you remember, there was previously a nontroversy about this. Sean Davis came on the podcast a long while back to note that the left was screaming that "conservatives" were in a tizzy over seeing a black man in a stormtrooper outfit. (What, you're saying a black man can't be an imperial stormtrooper? Wake up, kid, times have changed: it's a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.)

But Davis couldn't actually find people complaining of a black stormtrooper. What he found was liberals postulating that the conservatives who exist in their imaginations should be upset by the Black Stormtrooper, and then denouncing such imagined upset; but he couldn't find any actual conservatives bothered by this.

But maybe racial grievance technology has improved since then, because World Net Daily says they've found the white supremacist bots you're looking for.


The hashtag #BoycottStarWarsVII exploded on Twitter Monday, just hours before the release of a new trailer during ESPN’s Monday Night Football game between the New York Giants and the Philadelphia Eagles. The reason: Abrams' movie is allegedly a dream come true for race activists.

"#BoycottStarWarsVII because it is anti-white propaganda promoting #whitegenocide," an account called End Cultural Marxism said. "A friend in L.A. said #StarWarsVII is basically '[Black Lives Matter activist Deray Mckesson] in Space.' Jewish activist JJ Abrams is an anti-white nut."

The Hollywood Reporter found a tweet by a user identified as Captain Confederacy saying, "[Social Justice Warriors] complain about White artists 'misappropriating' culture created by blacks but then celebrate a non-White Star Wars."

"It’s nothing more than a social justice propaganda piece that alienates it's [sic] core audience of young white males,” another user tweeted, the website reported.

Um, whatever.

I think ABC/Disney should be boycotted on other political grounds, but not on this. Even if you're a stickler for "canon," remember, this is not the "Empire," this is the Imperial Remnant. The Empire was blown up at the end of the last real Star Wars movie. Some Imperial hold-outs are rebuilding an Empire, but it's not the same Empire.

So it's wrong to conclude that all the stormtroopers must still be clones. Maybe they were all liberated, and maybe the Imperial Remnant is just recuiting non-clones.

By the way, we don't even know the stormtroopers where (white) clones by the time of the real Star Wars movies. That was never even hinted at (as George Lucas hadn't made up this stupid idea yet). Maybe the stormtroopers were clones in the stupid prequels, but by the time of the original series, most clones had retired and had been replaced by normal non-clone recruits.

Personally, I think this whole "clone" business is stupid, and I ignore it (as I ignore all the prequels), and I'm happy that J.J. Abrams is ignoring this nonsense as well.

Now, is this latest nontroversy real? Remember, the last one wasn't real -- just a lot of hot air from liberals preening and virtue-signaling.

Well, looking at this alleged #BoycottStarWarsVII hashtag, I see zero actual outrage at black stormtrooper, but lots of outrage that someone else was allegedly outraged.

Jim Treacher and Jon Gabriel suspect this is all a put-on by 4chan, doing some low-investment, high rate-of-return trolling:



Whether it's fake or not, I don't know, but I do know, fake or real, we're talking about a number of tweets that can be counted on one hand allegedly expressing this Keep The Empire Racially Pure nonsense.

And then thousands of tweets from outraged liberals, demanding that the Empire finally be integrated.

In the end, I'd say this is a hoax either way. It's definitely a hoax in this sense: There is no idea so stupid that a few idiots don't believe it, and the fact that you could possibly find a handful of idiots who really think that black stormtroopers say something about "Social Justice" says almost nothing about anyone else.

And to run hot-take stories treating this as if it is actually anything at all is a hoax, a deception for purposes of one's own political agitation, whether or not the five or six anonymous people saying this were on the level, or actually just trolls trying to see if they could prime the Outraged Liberal Anger Machine with as little effort as possible.

Anyway, about that trailer: Looks good. All the trailers have looked good.

Which is why it's going to really hurt to boycott it (as I will). But again, not for this stupid reason; just because ABC/Disney/Marvel/ESPN is a very obnoxious and powerful leftist propaganda outfit.

Oh, and Andrew Stiles wants you know how old Han Solo is:


Oh, and some interesting overanalysis by Ben Domenech.

Posted by: Ace at 02:11 PM




Comments

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1 I am your father, Ace.

Posted by: Darth Vader at October 20, 2015 02:12 PM (1DH1V)

2 Let me put my lightsaber into you.

Posted by: Darth Vader at October 20, 2015 02:13 PM (1DH1V)

3 Mace Windu is not impressed with your attempts to stir up "controversy" for your Star Wars movie, JJ.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:13 PM (NOIQH)

4 #BlackLivesMatter

Posted by: Darth Vader at October 20, 2015 02:14 PM (1DH1V)

5 The boycott hashtag is a hoax. My guess is the same person or persons, following up after that awful-hilarious 'piss for equality' hashtag.

Posted by: Toastrider at October 20, 2015 02:14 PM (MbjKe)

6 The trailer sucks.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 20, 2015 02:14 PM (4ErVI)

7 I'm 'boycotting' in the same way I 'boycotted' ant man. ie, not seeing it unless I hear it's awesome. We shall see.

Posted by: Lea at October 20, 2015 02:14 PM (lIU4e)

8 Lando Calrissian is similarly unimpressed with attempts to claim the Star Wars universe has been racially pure up to this point.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:15 PM (NOIQH)

9 I don't care. I'm not watching it in any case. 4,5,6 killed my interest in the franchise anyway.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 02:16 PM (E5UB0)

10 I liked the trailer. I was hoping to see a green light saber though.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 20, 2015 02:16 PM (z/Ubi)

11 YAY

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 02:16 PM (3ZtZW)

12 Star Wars: Social Justice

Posted by: brak at October 20, 2015 02:17 PM (xwPSp)

13 "...What he found was liberals postulating..."

postulating is another word for "projecting our racial animus onto a group toward which we have a cultural animus."

Posted by: Beorn at October 20, 2015 02:17 PM (dGF4J)

14 The only important question re: the black and female lead characters - can they act?

The last 3 star wars movies were awful because of the hideous, wooden acting of Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman (who even agrees she was awful).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (NOIQH)

15 Is there any way to erase Jar Jar Binks from the collective memory?

Posted by: Killerdog at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (tvdXm)

16 It's not as if it is difficult to increase diversity in Star Wars though. Watch the original trilogy and play the drinking game where you drink every time you see a woman other than leia. You will be very sober by the end.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 20, 2015 02:19 PM (z/Ubi)

17 The Stormtroppers were clones of Jango Fett.

Posted by: Franklin Raines at October 20, 2015 02:19 PM (e8kgV)

18 Most of what I saw on Twitter re: #Boycott before last night was movie-related, not political (does JJ even know the series?, etc...) I'll need to hear some kick-ass friend reviews before I pay for a ticket to see it, trailers be praised or damned.

Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at October 20, 2015 02:19 PM (RtG9B)

19 Admiral Ackbar is a fish person. Diversity +1.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 02:20 PM (evdj2)

20 By the way, we don't even know the stormtroopers where (white) clones by the time of the real Star Wars movies.

Err, what? Yes, we, unfortunately do.

We saw the entire thing in Attack of the Clones. Lucas hired a native New Zealander, Temuera Morrison, to play Jango Fett. Jango was used as the source DNA for the clones.

Most race mongers would insist that native Pacific Islanders are distinct from other asians and they certainly wouldn't call them 'white.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2015 02:20 PM (JmGFJ)

21 then celebrate a non-White Star Wars

I'm assuming this part at least is trolling because...um...I saw the original star wars?

Posted by: Lea at October 20, 2015 02:20 PM (lIU4e)

22 Was it John Ekdahl who said, "What a stupid time to be alive"?

Or was it you, ace.

Either way, truer words were never spoken.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at October 20, 2015 02:20 PM (3UNrK)

23 I thought the Stormtroopers were all clones of Boba Fett's father (Jengo) played by actor Temuera Derek Morrison of New Zealand, who is listed as being of mixed ethnicity - "Maori, Scottish, and Irish descent"

Posted by: Fen at October 20, 2015 02:20 PM (LzTHP)

24 Jar Jar Binks from the collective memory?
Posted by: Killerdog at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (tvdXm)



Abrams considered sticking his bones in the desert.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 20, 2015 02:20 PM (z/Ubi)

25 Senator Bail Organa, played by Jimmy Smits, says "WTF, JJ? Do you seriously think you invented interstellar Star Wars diversity?"

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:20 PM (NOIQH)

26 14
The only important question re: the black and female lead characters - can they act?



The last 3 star wars movies were awful because of the hideous, wooden acting of Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman (who even agrees she was awful).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (NOIQH)


*nods in agreement*

Posted by: Darth Vader at October 20, 2015 02:21 PM (1DH1V)

27 You have failed me for the last time, Lucas.

Posted by: Darth Vader at October 20, 2015 02:21 PM (evdj2)

28 I'm not seeing this bullshift because I saw one of the Star Drek "Tiny Trek Adventures" Fan fiction movies he did, and that was enough.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 20, 2015 02:21 PM (kCfMX)

29 More emotional bullying. "See this movie, or your racist". If it were any good, they wouldn't need to do that. Sometimes, when the studio knows they have a stinker, they'll prevent advance showings so critics won't be able to pan it before the release. This might be some similar tactic.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 02:21 PM (E5UB0)

30 The best of star wars: George Lucas

The worst of star wars: George Lucas

Posted by: Killerdog at October 20, 2015 02:22 PM (tvdXm)

31 Cant we escape at a theater without race, gender identity bullshit?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2015 02:22 PM (+c55T)

32 According to Rebels (the animated show currently in it's second season), which is considered canon in the Disney SW universe, there's a scene with retired clone troopers where one of the clones makes a remark that the Emperor formally decommissioned the clones as stormtroopers. Since Rebels takes place between episodes 3 and 4, it follows that it's highly unlikely that there are any clones being used by either side.

/nerdout

Posted by: joe at October 20, 2015 02:22 PM (KUaJL)

33 Jango Fett just smirks. Idiots, you'll all be conquered by my clone army...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:22 PM (NOIQH)

34 Born in 1971 so was I right in the wheelhouse for the Star Wars mania growing up. Saw the Phantom Menace on opening weekend with my girlfriend (now wife). About an hour in she whispered to me "Sorry honey, but this movie really sucks." I agreed and never bothered to watch the other 2 atrocities. I will see the new one because of Harrison Ford and because Lucas is not involved.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 20, 2015 02:23 PM (OD2ni)

35 He turned James T. Kirk into Just Another Mary Sue.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at October 20, 2015 02:23 PM (kCfMX)

36 ZOMG! The Limited Patriarchy has moar popcorn with butter AND salt...for shame, man, for shame.


Sarcasm, what's that?

Posted by: Moloch, the Grue Grocer at October 20, 2015 02:23 PM (BnOvL)

37 so all those aliens aren't different ... races?

or just not "black enough"?

Posted by: Feh at October 20, 2015 02:23 PM (u86NM)

38 Speaking of fake criticism, the customer reviews on Amazon of Roger Stone's the Clintons' War on Women include numerous one star reviews all traced back to Hilldog's campaign HQ.

http://tinyurl.com/ohsan8r

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (XUKZU)

39 Ackbar is an Orestias-Imperial.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (evdj2)

40 Being not a fanboi I didn't get what was going on in the trailer. This helps:

http://www.techinsider.io/star-wars-force-awakens-trailer-analysis-2015-10

I kind of liked the feel of the trailer, kind of like a good samurai movie.

But then:

Which is why it's going to really hurt to boycott it (as I will). But again, not for this stupid reason; just because ABC/Disney/Marvel/ESPN is a very obnoxious and powerful leftist propaganda outfit.


Really, Ace? I thought you were on the other side of the "I can't have fun because it's made by liberals" argument.

Is it a good movie or not is all that matters to me.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (JtwS4)

41 I'm 'boycotting' in the same way I 'boycotted' ant man. ie, not seeing it unless I hear it's awesome. We shall see.

Posted by: Lea at October 20, 2015 02:14 PM (lIU4e)
=========================
I'm
boycotting this move in the same way I boycott other movies. It never
occurs to me to go see a movie. Although I almost saw a movie this
summer. Some kid's movie and it was Tuesday Ticket for a dollar if you
went to the 10 am show. So I went with daughter and all the grands. We
took two cars, because we knew one or the other of them would not be
able to make it through the whole show. The two year old never even made
it through the previews. Why do they have 15 minutes of previews? If I
had known that, we would have come at 10:15. Poor kid was all
berjibbity before the show ever started. So we went to feed the ducks
instead.

Posted by: grammie winger, how long Lord? at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (dFi94)

42
meh.

Posted by: Captain James T. Kirk at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (yfObW)

43 "But again, not for this stupid reason; just because
ABC/Disney/Marvel/ESPN is a very obnoxious and powerful leftist
propaganda outfit."

When SW Episode 1 came out, someone asked me if I'd gone to see it.

I said, no, I didn't go to any Hollyweird movies any longer, because I had realized that Hollyweird is run by the sort of people who would laugh and cheer at my sort of people being taken away in cattle cars, and I no longer wanted to hand them my money.

"Oh," he said. "I never thought about it that way. But one advantage of your system is that it protects you from having to sit through shitty movies. And trust me, Ep One is a *really* shitty movie."

Win-win.

Posted by: torquewrench at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (noWW6)

44 "The last 3 star wars movies were awful because of the hideous, wooden acting of Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman (who even agrees she was awful)."

In the actors' defense, if you watch the behind the scenes footage, Lucas used more CGI and green screens for that movie than Cameron used in Avatar. Every scene was two people standing in a blue room talking to each other (at best). It's really hard to act well when you don't have any physical cues.

Posted by: joe at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (KUaJL)

45 I'd like to see a remake of The Color Purple where everyone is played by white performers.


Because popcorn moment.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 20, 2015 02:25 PM (4ErVI)

46 Adds to Wait-for-BluRay list.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 02:25 PM (evdj2)

47 Cant we escape at a theater without race, gender identity bullshit?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
------------------------------------------------
Not any more, which is why I don't watch current movies any more. I can't bring myself to pay into the system (although I think this is adiaphora). Just occasionally get one from the library.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 02:25 PM (E5UB0)

48 So still, so dark all over Empire
And the rainbow rises here
In the western sky, the kill to show for
At the end of the great White line

I see a black
Black planet
Black black black
Black world

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 02:25 PM (3ZtZW)

49 17 The Stormtroppers were clones of Jango Fett.

Posted by: Franklin Raines at October 20, 2015 02:19 PM (e8kgV)

Who was unchained.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:25 PM (2Ojst)

50 "The last 3 star wars movies were awful because of the hideous, wooden acting of Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman (who even agrees she was awful).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (NOIQH)"


I saw Christianson in the movie about Stephen Glass and thought he was really good. I think Lucas is a crappy director.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 20, 2015 02:26 PM (OD2ni)

51 The last 3 star wars movies were awful because of the hideous, wooden acting of Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman (who even agrees she was awful).
Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (NOIQH)

That was only one out of about a dozen reasons they were awful.

Posted by: Jon at October 20, 2015 02:26 PM (HA+/6)

52 How long to Wookies live?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 02:26 PM (evdj2)

53 I'm dreaming of a white Star Wars.
Just like the ones we used to know.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 02:27 PM (XUKZU)

54 to? do

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 02:27 PM (evdj2)

55 I have no idea if we will watch this in theatres or not. I know the kid wants to see the Maze Runner sequeel and the last Hunger Games movie.
Movie theatres consistently give me headaches now.
Might just let her and the hubby watch.

Posted by: @votermom at October 20, 2015 02:27 PM (cbfNE)

56 51 The last 3 star wars movies were awful because of the hideous, wooden acting of Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman (who even agrees she was awful).
Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (NOIQH)

That was only one out of about a dozen reasons they were awful.
Posted by: Jon at October 20, 2015 02:26 PM (HA+/6)

I feel sorry for that poor bastard who played Anakin in Episode I.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:27 PM (2Ojst)

57 Abrams tweet about "I don't care if you're black, white, wookie, or jawa, I hope you enjoy it" didn't help.

Do I care if a stormtrooper is black? Not a bit. Do I care if the lead is a female? Nope.

Do I care about Disney and JJ Abrams writing scripts, making casting decisions, and tweeting purely on the basis of "look how into diversity I am"? Yeah, I'm pretty sick of that shit. No one is breaking new ground. There's been black guys in prominent roles forever, including Star Wars (Mace Windu, Lando). Same goes for women. Why, now, does this merit self congratulations?

Oh... because JJ holds $30K per head DNC fundraisers at his house. Got it.

Posted by: Damiano at October 20, 2015 02:28 PM (XItbt)

58 My legacy is safe. Quite safe. Laughably safe.

Posted by: Zombie Stanley Kubrick at October 20, 2015 02:28 PM (SCcgT)

59 And then thousands of tweets from outraged liberals, demanding that the Empire finally be integrated.

Yoda was green.
Admiral Ackbar was a fish.
Newt Gunray was...something.
Jar-Jar Binks was embarrassing.
and Darth Maul covered the all-important underworld demonic demographic.


It is very integrated. Like a bowl of Froot Loops, only making less sense.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 20, 2015 02:28 PM (hLRSq)

60 I don't know why there'd be a problem. Even Jango Fett wasn't white, so none of his clones would be. Nobody bitched then.

Some non-canon books (since now no books are canon) said that the original cloners couldn't keep up with production/high quality clones no longer needed (to explain why "storm troopers were so easy to kill)/regular humans enlisted in the Empire/Clones no longer needed etc.

Why do they have to bring politics into eye-candy sci-fi. If the story is good, you'll identify with the protagonist anyway.

I'm just figuring Luke Skywalker is going to get killed off, as every Jedi Mentor (Qui Gon, Obi Wan) are killed off in the first episode of the trilogy.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:28 PM (9221z)

61 Windu Nuffin

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 20, 2015 02:28 PM (FkBIv)

62 I feel sorry for that poor bastard who played Anakin in Episode I.

I didn't know about that until today, my kid is writing a paper on child actors.

Got bullied straight out of the business.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 20, 2015 02:28 PM (JtwS4)

63 So,it's only like 10 years since the Empire ended and people already think Jedi are a myth,again?

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:29 PM (8HTq1)

64 I've decided to treat this as a movie.

When it's available at home, I'll watch it. Maybe I'll enjoy it, maybe not.

I don't expect the experience to be life-altering.

Posted by: jwest at October 20, 2015 02:29 PM (Zs4uk)

65 The question is moot.

Posted by: Bittorrent at October 20, 2015 02:29 PM (evdj2)

66 the last Hunger Games movie

I also 'boycotted' the last hunger games movie but I want to discourage this trend of 'split one book/story into two just because we can make more money this way'. So irritating! I may see the last one, though.

Posted by: Lea at October 20, 2015 02:29 PM (lIU4e)

67 >>That was only one out of about a dozen reasons they were awful.

Very true. The stories were meh, especially with Lucas' BDS.

Given that so many performances were bad (Jar Jar, even the young Anakin) it seems much more likely that this was poorly directed.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (NOIQH)

68 61 Windu Nuffin

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 20, 2015 02:28 PM (FkBIv)


Hilarious. Thread winner!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (4ErVI)

69 While the heroes may be diverse
But I do notice that the bad guys are never a member of a "protected/Favored" group.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (9221z)

70 The original clones were all Hispanic. Or Space Latino, whatever.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (0NdlF)

71 By the way, we don't even know the stormtroopers where (white) clones by the time of the real Star Wars movies.

They were white. The lack of any semblance of rhythm was a dead giveaway.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (8ZskC)

72 I hate sand.

Posted by: George Lucas School of Dialouge at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (xwPSp)

73 Cant we escape at a theater without race, gender identity bullshit?

----------------------

No, and your question is itself both racist and sexist.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (WiU5D)

74 The Empire was racist.The Emperor hated aliens and droids.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (8HTq1)

75 Explain to me why anyone over the age of 17 gives a fuck about this movie.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 20, 2015 02:31 PM (0LHZx)

76 However, if this is the complaint: "We want black people to be in charge of the Empire!"


Then the response is "You want black people in charge of the evil galactic Empire? You want black people to be the face of imperialistic, militaristic, aggressive oppression and repression of various people's rights to valid national self-determination? What are you, some kind of fascist with a hard-on for Hitler?"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 20, 2015 02:31 PM (hLRSq)

77 >>>Err, what? Yes, we, unfortunately do.

We saw the entire thing in Attack of the Clones. Lucas hired a native New Zealander, Temuera Morrison, to play Jango Fett. Jango was used as the source DNA for the clones.

...

no we don't know that. the original series is 17 years after the stupid clone movie crap. Some stormtroopers might be clones still, but many will have retired.

Also, you can visibly see that some are taller than others, and that Jengo Fett guy's voice was not the voice of the real stormtroopers (who had different voices).

So... to limit this clone nonsense in my mind, i'm saying that 90% of all stormtroopers were not clones in the original series.

Actually I'm saying 100% weren't, because I ignore every claim made in the prequels.

Posted by: ace at October 20, 2015 02:31 PM (dciA+)

78 Man, if you can talk for that long about the trailer, I would have loved to seen a full movie review.

If, you know, you weren't boycotting it.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:31 PM (XiVKO)

79 69 While the heroes may be diverse
But I do notice that the bad guys are never a member of a "protected/Favored" group.
Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (9221z)

Mincing Sith with pink lightsabers?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (2Ojst)

80 70 The original clones were all Hispanic. Or Space Latino, whatever.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (0NdlF)

No I think the actor was a Maori (or part Maori) from New Zealand

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (9221z)

81 I don't know how anyone can really complain if they sat through JarJar Fetchit and the Yellow Peril of the Trade Federation, and still saw the other two prequels.

Posted by: Bittorrent at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (evdj2)

82 Madame did not enjoy the trailer.

Posted by: Max Von Mayerling at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (Ui7Rt)

83 The last 3 star wars movies were awful because of the hideous, wooden acting of Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman (who even agrees she was awful).

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:18 PM (NOIQH)

Yessa, it hadda noth do with missa!

Posted by: Jar-Jar Binks at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (HA+/6)

84 So,it's only like 10 years since the Empire ended and people already think Jedi are a myth,again?

Posted by: steevy


Sure. There were only two known at the end of the last one, and, more importantly it's a big universe.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (JmGFJ)

85 Weren't the libs all buttsore because Mace Windu's lightsaber was purple, until they found out that Sam Jackson picked that color out himself?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (XiVKO)

86
Its just a stupid kids movie.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (3yWsK)

87 Sup horde, usual strict lurker here.

#BoycottStarWarsVII is 4chan's /pol/ board amusing itself. It's not a real thing. But they did a hell of a job selling it, as you can see by the fact this post exists.

/pol/ is actually mostly for-real racists though.

Just an FYI. Have a good day.

Posted by: Woodchipper of the Apocolypse at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (AI9IC)

88 "The original clones were all Hispanic. Or Space Latino, whatever."

Do "space Latinos" mow down innocent dindu-nuffins with ray guns?

Posted by: torquewrench at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (noWW6)

89 OT-Just listened to a Canadian calling into an American religious program. He says Trudeau won because of the heavy, unrelenting marketing campaign that was heavily supported by the media (Gee, sounds familiar), that the liberal party has made it clear that you can't be part of the liberal party unless you support abortion and that he expects churches will come under increased fire as far as charitable status (I guess that was always going to happen anyway. He says the conservative news alternative has basically gone under (Sun? Daily Sun?) but that there is a new alternative to it called rebel media and it has an article on Trudeua's victory

http://www.therebel.media

If I made some mistakes in what I heard I apologize and our conservative Canadian friends can correct me. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2015 02:33 PM (GERXL)

90 Aren't storm troopers clones? You should be able to get whatever color you want to mat h the decor of your StarDestroyer or palace...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 20, 2015 02:33 PM (jmzLh)

91
So...whatever happened to the whole new Speaker thing??

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2015 02:33 PM (3yWsK)

92 I hope this episode has some more about that galactic trade embargo shit. Because nothing's more exciting than a trade embargo that's GALACTIC.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2015 02:33 PM (8ZskC)

93 Mincing Sith with pink lightsabers?
Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (2Ojst)


And you'll notice while they'll re-imagine white heroes as non-whites, white villains aren't re-imagined as non-whites.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:33 PM (9221z)

94 79 Well,the first approved new universe tie in novel has multiple gay characters.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:33 PM (8HTq1)

95 Is there a 45 minutes scene where the Interplanetary Conference discusses raising the galactic debt ceiling in exchange for a tax cut on sales of banta meat to be enacted at a later date?

Posted by: Lamar O. at October 20, 2015 02:34 PM (BlCZ6)

96 Watched this Billy the Kid photo provenance doc. He bought it for a couple of bucks and it was ultimately valued at 5 mil. Now the guy and his wife had to do a lot of traveling and hiring experts. I guess those costs can be deducted against taxes. It's a shame how the stinking gov gets its dirty greedy hands on everything. It's hilarious that all these desperadoes were out on the lawn playing croquet.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 20, 2015 02:34 PM (iQIUe)

97 Damn it Ace! No way to get the Star Wars out of me no many how many Jar Jars and screw ups. Always hoping for greatness again. I'm seeing it. Still, *bleep* you Disney and Abrams you statist vermin!

Posted by: OneIronMacGuffin at October 20, 2015 02:34 PM (NjX7M)

98 Well,the first approved new universe tie in novel has multiple gay characters.

It don't matter with Acturians.

Posted by: Frost at October 20, 2015 02:35 PM (evdj2)

99 >>>So,it's only like 10 years since the Empire ended and people already think Jedi are a myth,again?

it makes sense here because there were only two known force-using people in the whole galaxy (Darth Vader, Luke) since the original series.

Domenech writes half his piece about this -- why WOULD people know? They're not as plugged into Skywalker Family Drama as we earth movie viewers are.

Posted by: ace at October 20, 2015 02:35 PM (dciA+)

100 Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (9221z)

Yeah, looked it up. Turns out I'm a Space Rayciss.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:35 PM (0NdlF)

101 This time I'll bet there's a shield on the thermal exhaust vent. Man, that was one expensive lesson.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2015 02:35 PM (8ZskC)

102 Eh. Methinks I'll wait for the Darths & Droids take.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 02:36 PM (9krrF)

103 46
Adds to Wait-for-BluRay list.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 02:25 PM (evdj2)


Adds to wait for torrent list.

Kidding. I probably won't see it.

Posted by: Darth Vader at October 20, 2015 02:36 PM (1DH1V)

104 The lack of any semblance of rhythm was a dead giveaway.


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But -- they also couldn't aim and had no sense of tactics other than walking slowly with guns held waist level and bunched up together, so I think they were Liberals...

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 02:36 PM (3ZtZW)

105 63 So,it's only like 10 years since the Empire ended and people already think Jedi are a myth,again?

__

Even in the old republic, Jedi were rare. They just didn't seem that way because the story focuses on them. Most people would go their lives without ever meeting one. And that's some 60 years prior to Ep 7. It isn't that much of a stretch for the prevailing opinion to be that "well they existed, but the stories about them are generally blown out of proportion."

Posted by: joe at October 20, 2015 02:36 PM (KUaJL)

106 It's the hypersensitive / perpetual grievance culture. If you don't have a horrible oppressor enemy, one must be invented to satisfy your need to have a horrible oppressor enemy.

It's how people are trained now.

People who love "taking the Mickey" are the only people who benefit from this. Well, they *think* they do, until the hypersensitive have enough power, then things usually don't go as well.

As people have pointed out, in the second trilogy, *none* of the clones were white. The only people who care are trolls and the SJW freakshow reactionaries who feed off them.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 02:36 PM (bLnSU)

107 So,it's only like 10 years since the Empire ended and people already think Jedi are a myth,again?

30 years. Take an actual "young adult" and grill him about things that happened 30 or 60 years previously. Be prepared to laugh, cry, and rage.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 02:37 PM (9krrF)

108 Jim Treacher and Jon Gabriel suspect this is all a put-on by 4chan, doing some low-investment, high rate-of-return trolling:


Ding ding ding ding ding!

I do hope that whoever it is that had the job of smacking JJ Abrams with a newspaper whenever he tried to add lens flare got a raise because said person did an amazing job at that.

Posted by: alexthechick - All The Whatever Hands at October 20, 2015 02:37 PM (mf5HN)

109 it makes sense here because there were only two known force-using people in the whole galaxy (Darth Vader, Luke) since the original series.

That's just what I was thinking. Vader, Obi Wan, Yoda and Palpatine are all dead. Luke's the last Jedi, and that's only known to a handful of people.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:37 PM (2Ojst)

110 Darth Vader is dead and Skywalker is alive.

- Joe Biden

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 02:37 PM (XUKZU)

111 99 >>>So,it's only like 10 years since the Empire ended and people already think Jedi are a myth,again?

it makes sense here because there were only two known force-using people in the whole galaxy (Darth Vader, Luke) since the original series.

Domenech writes half his piece about this -- why WOULD people know? They're not as plugged into Skywalker Family Drama as we earth movie viewers are.

Posted by: ace at October 20, 2015 02:35 PM (dciA+)


Exactly. At its height the Galactic Republic/Empire had thousands of worlds with perhaps a trillion sentients. At its height, the Jedi order only had 10,000 Jedi. That's not even a drop in the bucket. And there were only 2 actual sith and even less sith hangers-on.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:37 PM (9221z)

112 Because nothing is more important than the racial makeup of fictional characters. Outrage!!!!111!!

Posted by: rickl at October 20, 2015 02:37 PM (zoehZ)

113 If, you know, you weren't boycotting it.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:31 PM (XiVKO)


A review of the boycott might be interesting though.

Posted by: Killerdog at October 20, 2015 02:38 PM (tvdXm)

114 Mincing Sith with pink lightsabers?

====


"I will give you such a pinch!"

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 02:38 PM (3ZtZW)

115 30 years. Take an actual "young adult" and grill him about things that happened 30 or 60 years previously. Be prepared to laugh, cry, and rage.


Jimmy Carter is as far from them as FDR was from me.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 02:38 PM (evdj2)

116 Attention! Attention!

Rumors that Barack Obama (PBUH) will star as the Zombie Emperor and Hillary Clinton, the First Woman President (TM), will be the reincarnation of Darth Vader are figments of imagination from the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

That is all. Return to work, Comrades.

Posted by: Council Member Debbie Whatzername Schlitz at October 20, 2015 02:38 PM (TxJGV)

117 Its just a stupid kids movie.
Posted by: Soothsayer


And we have a lot of stupid kids.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 20, 2015 02:38 PM (FkBIv)

118 99 I see your point.Don't you think the new Rebel formed government would want to publicize their alliance with the goodside of the Force?I can see how it was in the Empire's benefit to suppress belief.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:38 PM (8HTq1)

119 o we don't know that. the original series is 17 years after the stupid clone movie crap. Some stormtroopers might be clones still, but many will have retired.

Also, you can visibly see that some are taller than others, and that Jengo Fett guy's voice was not the voice of the real stormtroopers (who had different voices).

So... to limit this clone nonsense in my mind, i'm saying that 90% of all stormtroopers were not clones in the original series.

Actually I'm saying 100% weren't, because I ignore every claim made in the prequels.

Posted by: ace


And the only s-trooper's face we ever see is Jango's. That's it. There no reason to believe the other troopers are 'white' because you never see one. The other non-clones could have been bloody, skinness freaks for all we know.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2015 02:39 PM (JmGFJ)

120 There's not a single transgender stormtrooper in the entire franchise!

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 02:39 PM (XUKZU)

121 100 Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (9221z)

Yeah, looked it up. Turns out I'm a Space Rayciss.
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:35 PM (0NdlF)


Well, if you're going to be a space rayyciisstt!!111eleventy, might as well go big!

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:39 PM (9221z)

122 So,it's only like 10 years since the Empire ended and people already think Jedi are a myth,again?

Well, so far we only know that a girl from a backwater planet who's spent her life struggling to survive thinks that stories about the Jedi and Sith are legends.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at October 20, 2015 02:40 PM (OiH3z)

123 Harrison Ford broke his leg. Like all other over the hill horses, he was put down via gunshot.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2015 02:40 PM (0x/TW)

124 no we don't know that. the original series is 17 years after the stupid clone movie crap. Some stormtroopers might be clones still, but many will have retired.

Pretty sure they haven't retconned the clone lifespan thing.

So "retire" actually means "expired".

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:40 PM (0NdlF)

125 To kids born today, Vietnam is as distant as The Great War was to my generation.

Posted by: Grump928(c) notes that time stops for no man at October 20, 2015 02:40 PM (evdj2)

126 >>#BoycottStarWarsVII is 4chan's /pol/ board amusing itself. It's not a
real thing. But they did a hell of a job selling it, as you can see by
the fact this post exists.

MSM took the bait because it was too good to not be true.

JJ likely seized it as an opportunity to play up tolerance angle, no different that when Hollywood makes a religion-mocking movie and then tries to get religious people to denounce it/boycott it. They live for these types of protests - even when its astroturfed.

"Controversy" already covered in EW and NYPost.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:41 PM (NOIQH)

127 125 But they know it was real,if only as a terrible imperialistic war on a poor asian country.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:41 PM (8HTq1)

128 "Jango Fett. Jango was used as the source DNA for the clones."

And I remember at the time a lot of people thought he was Hispanic. And that raised a stink too.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 20, 2015 02:41 PM (LA7Cm)

129 There's not a single transgender stormtrooper in the entire franchise!

It's a plumbing issue in the Storm Trooper Armor.

Posted by: Grump928(c) notes that time stops for no man at October 20, 2015 02:41 PM (evdj2)

130 Ace sums up liberal pathology:

"But Davis couldn't actually find people complaining of a black stormtrooper. What he found was liberals postulating that the conservatives who exist in their imaginations should be upset by the Black Stormtrooper, and then denouncing such imagined upset; but he couldn't find any actual conservatives bothered by this."

also, I never really put much thought in it but of course all storm troopers aren't Fett's clones. why would that be?

So, of course, a black guy can be a storm trooper.

But why would totalitarian weirdo empire appeal to a black person.

That's racist.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:42 PM (lxrIV)

131
Why did Lucas start at ep.4, anyway?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2015 02:42 PM (3yWsK)

132 123 Harrison Ford broke his leg. Like all other over the hill horses, he was put down via gunshot.

--

*shifty eyes*
*nickers nervously*

Posted by: John Horse Kerry at October 20, 2015 02:42 PM (cbfNE)

133 Considering just how few jedi there were, compared to the empire's population, and it's perfectly reasonable that people would be jedi truthers.

And sine Luke's pretty much the master at this point, it would stand to reason he wouldn't even need a lightsaber anymore. But I didn't watch the trailer too closely, so maybe it's there. Or something.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:42 PM (XiVKO)

134 Pretty sure they haven't retconned the clone lifespan thing.

So "retire" actually means "expired".
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:40 PM (0NdlF)


Yeah, there was a whole series of spin off books from the Republic Commando game, which talked about how some "independent" clones where trying to fix their rapid aging gene. They never told you what happened to Sev though. They were saving it for the sequel that never came. Bastards.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:43 PM (9221z)

135 They were white. The lack of any semblance of rhythm was a dead giveaway.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 20, 2015 02:30 PM (8ZskC)


I had to try really hard not to laugh loudly at work.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:43 PM (0NdlF)

136 131 As a kid he loved serials,and that opening scroll they did to bring you up to date on what had happened.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:43 PM (8HTq1)

137 WHAT A DUMB TIME TO BE ALIVE!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, screaming from the Outer Darkness at October 20, 2015 02:43 PM (vd4oB)

138 So, of course, a black guy can be a storm trooper.


There was talk in these very environs that a black guy couldn't be James Bond.

The ginger midget remembers who was being considered for the role.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 20, 2015 02:43 PM (JtwS4)

139 #blackholesmatter

Posted by: wth at October 20, 2015 02:44 PM (wAQA5)

140 Yeah, there was a whole series of spin off books from the Republic Commando game, which talked about how some "independent" clones where trying to fix their rapid aging gene.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 02:44 PM (2Ojst)

141 #MayTheFarceBeWithYou

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 02:45 PM (9krrF)

142 I AM DARTH RAPER!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, screaming from the Outer Darkness at October 20, 2015 02:45 PM (vd4oB)

143 You won't believe how much Abrams saved on payroll with this one weird trick ..

Posted by: Grump928(c) notes that time stops for no man at October 20, 2015 02:45 PM (evdj2)

144 #BlackStormtroopersMatter

Posted by: General Zod at October 20, 2015 02:46 PM (Bdeb0)

145 And I remember at the time a lot of people thought he was Hispanic.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 20, 2015 02:41 PM (LA7Cm)



What a ridiculous thought.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:46 PM (0NdlF)

146 I'm not a racist but I guess I'm a misogynist because I boycott all TV and movies that insist that they must have a female character that could kick Mike Tyson's ass while putting on their make up.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 02:46 PM (oOYbM)

147 I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 02:44 PM (2Ojst)


Yeah, like how the Disney XD cartoons ret-conned a control chip into the clones. Instead of just being hypno-conditioned to be obedient.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:46 PM (9221z)

148 146 So,pretty much all of it?

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:46 PM (8HTq1)

149 #blackholesmatter
Posted by: wth at October 20, 2015 02:44 PM (wAQA5)



Annnnnd I just nearly choked to death on a Kit Kat.

Posted by: alexthechick - All The Whatever Hands at October 20, 2015 02:47 PM (mf5HN)

150 Why is the chic dressed like one of the sand people ? And carrying the staff ?

Posted by: Irony at October 20, 2015 02:47 PM (W+w2W)

151 So, of course, a black guy can be a storm trooper.


There was talk in these very environs that a black guy couldn't be James Bond.

***

But that's different.

Bond is a in-your-PC-cry-hole taunt. Not a vessel of PC misandry and misanthropy.

Bond is a not quite upper class Brit. I dunno, I don't see conquered UK having James Bonds anymore as all their female children are getting raped by pakis.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:47 PM (lxrIV)

152 Why oh why does no studio make a movie from a Cherryh book?!? There are at least two dozen that are no-brainers in this day of CGI.

Posted by: Grump928(c) notes that time stops for no man at October 20, 2015 02:47 PM (evdj2)

153 Is it fair to say that Granny Clinton travels with the aid of her Imperial Walker?

Posted by: mugiwara at October 20, 2015 02:47 PM (szTpk)

154 Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 20, 2015 02:43 PM (JtwS4)

He can be Bond's CIA counterpart though.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 02:48 PM (oOYbM)

155 #BlackStraponsMatter

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at October 20, 2015 02:48 PM (1DH1V)

156 And no Fremen would allow that much of their skin to be exposed in the desert.

Posted by: Stilgar at October 20, 2015 02:48 PM (XiVKO)

157 I'm not a racist but I guess I'm a misogynist because I boycott all TV and movies that insist that they must have a female character that could kick Mike Tyson's ass while putting on their make up.

***

true dat.

The pc-thugs on one hand want women to kick ass but on the other hand are all like "this show highlights US's problem with violence against women, a solution to which can only be reached through increased illegal immigration"

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:48 PM (lxrIV)

158 "75 Explain to me why anyone over the age of 17 gives a fuck about this movie.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 20, 2015 02:31 PM (0LHZx)"


No.

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 20, 2015 02:49 PM (OD2ni)

159 The clone wars were mentioned in the first movie by Luke. Lucas invented a nice phrase (clone wars) but pissed all over it (just like force => midichlorians).

Re the last 3 movies. Actors do better when writers give them good lines and situations. It was Jar Jar all the way down.

Posted by: just saying at October 20, 2015 02:49 PM (j2xmV)

160 156 Could you stand over there by the barrel Stilgar?No offense,but you really stink.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:49 PM (8HTq1)

161 150 Why is the chic dressed like one of the sand people ? And carrying the staff ?
Posted by: Irony at October 20, 2015 02:47 PM (W+w2W)

You do what you gotta do on Ceti Alpha V.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:49 PM (2Ojst)

162 And sine Luke's pretty much the master at this point, it would stand to reason he wouldn't even need a lightsaber anymore. But I didn't watch the trailer too closely, so maybe it's there. Or something.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:42 PM (XiVKO)


In Star Wars "lore," Luke developed a style of using one normal and one short lightsaber. He also started a school to teach more Jedi, at first a few and then founding an academy of some size.

Basically Luke is the "ultimate Jedi," the strongest force user, the best duelist, etc., in history. Until they retcon that.

I haven't been paying enough attention to know if "AbramsVerse 2" here is before or after that started.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 02:49 PM (bLnSU)

163 Ace, so let me get this straight. JJ Abrams is a noted leftist activist and Democrat fundraiser. Disney\Lucasfilm is, in your own words, a leftist propaganda outfit, one so blatant in their efforts that you will boycott their products. However, it's beyond the pale to suggest that Abrams\Disney would cast minorities and\or women solely to make a PC point and stick it to their political and cultural enemies?

Big Reveal----Luke has turned to the dark side and is the guy on the movie poster behind the mask...for all three of you that haven't figured that out yet.

And to further my point, didn't we see the noble black guy (sweaty stormtrooper) in a one-on-one duel battling the evil (Luke Skywalker) white guy in a light saber duel? No suggestion of good vs. evil there, nope, not a scintilla.

Disney\Lucasfilm - guilty as charged.



Posted by: Mortem Omnibus at October 20, 2015 02:49 PM (cYfmt)

164 And wasn't the empire speciest, and would enslave non-human races? Is it such a stretch to say they would also have a problem with black guys?

Just from a storytelling standpoint, I don't see what the BFD would be if there weren't any black stormtroopers. The empire's evil, FFS.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:49 PM (XiVKO)

165 Cant we escape at a theater without race, gender identity bullshit?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 20, 2015 02:22 PM (+c55T)

No, no we can't. The problem the SJW's have created is that by wanting everything to be racially/ethnically balanced, they make everything into an SJW checkbox event. How many are shocked that the latest Star Wars appears to have a black guy and white woman as leads? Next moved one of the leads will have to be homosexuals which the Empire repressed. The one after that will need to have a transgendered lead.

I've grown tired of it all. Maybe the story is great and the actor and actress wonderful. But, SJW's have make any possible unbiased take impossible.

Posted by: WOPR at October 20, 2015 02:50 PM (LTDSy)

166 I thought one of the official retcons was that at some point after Ep. 2 (or Ep. 3) there were multiple sources of clones other than Jango Fett and also that at some point following consolidation of power in Ep. 3 the Empire destroyed the cloning facilities in order to prevent a rebel clone army from being built.

Of course this ignores the reality that the clones concept was itself a retcon.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 20, 2015 02:50 PM (JxMoP)

167 86
Its just a stupid kids movie.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2015 02:32 PM (3yWsK)


--------------------------


THIS. It's a popcorn matinee movie. All this analysis is just another reason to believe how silly this nation has become.

Posted by: Soona at October 20, 2015 02:50 PM (GGaWD)

168 "Jango Fett. Jango was used as the source DNA for the clones."

And I remember at the time a lot of people thought he was Hispanic. And that raised a stink too.

****

oh yeah...

remember, the prequels were filled with all sorts of PCdnc nonsense.

Like I got the idea that Amadaliaasadsa was ground prep for Hillary even back then.

and then, a girlfriend pointed this out to me, there was a middle aged mom X-wing fighter pilot.

barf.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:50 PM (lxrIV)

169 Is it fair to say that Granny Clinton travels with the aid of her Imperial Walker?

The blue-fisted assholes up in WI used "Imperial Walker" as a taunt against the governor with the throne of skulls. Never understood how giving him a cool SW nickname was going to make people like him less...

Posted by: HR trinken trinken trinken at October 20, 2015 02:50 PM (vn2q2)

170 148 146 So,pretty much all of it?
Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:46 PM (8HTq1)


Agents of Shield is the worst for that. These tiny girls are beating walking mountains routinely. Its a sad joke. And of course being diverse, the only real enemy is the Nazis. Although I'm sure Christians will be worked in as somehow being anti-half-breed super-powered aliens bigots.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:51 PM (9221z)

171 Geez guys. I'm standing right here.

Posted by: Lando Calrissian at October 20, 2015 02:51 PM (evdj2)

172 "146 I'm not a racist but I guess I'm a misogynist because I boycott all TV and movies that insist that they must have a female character that could kick Mike Tyson's ass while putting on their make up."


Even if they have Ronda Rousey doing Tai Chi topless in the Road House remake?

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 20, 2015 02:51 PM (OD2ni)

173
Last one I saw was Phantom Menace and it was boring.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 20, 2015 02:52 PM (iQIUe)

174 So we're not going to see a remake of Dark Star anytime soon?

Posted by: wth at October 20, 2015 02:52 PM (wAQA5)

175 Just as long as there's no Irish in the movie, I'm good.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 20, 2015 02:52 PM (l513m)

176 170 I tried to watch Winter Soldier but they had to start out with Black Widow beating up on hulking mercenaries right from the start.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:52 PM (8HTq1)

177 Is it a good movie or not is all that matters to me.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 20, 2015 02:24 PM (JtwS4)

Disney's gone all in on the SJW push. At some point I can understand why someone would boycott.

Posted by: WOPR at October 20, 2015 02:52 PM (LTDSy)

178 Basically Luke is the "ultimate Jedi," the strongest force user, the best duelist, etc., in history. Until they retcon that.

And wooed the hawt redhead bad girl to the Light Side of the Force.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (0NdlF)

179 Why don't you sing one of them Stormtrooper work songs?

Posted by: Taggart at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (2Ojst)

180 Black, White, Striped... I don't care.

But I'll care if they bring back or mention JarJar Binks ever again. Ever.

#WipeJarJarFromHistoryForTheLoveofGod

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (1CroS)

181 >>Agents of Shield is the worst for that. These tiny girls are beating walking mountains routinely.

Because: Joss Whedon. That's his thing - waif warriors.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (NOIQH)

182 Even if they have Ronda Rousey doing Tai Chi topless in the Road House remake?

***

topless, lol. more like titless.

She's only 5'7" abt 150 pounds.

Any time she does a demo where she flips a guy, it's usually a schlub who she tells to "ok stand here, let me get into position, and....take down"

bouncers are big boys for a reason.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (lxrIV)

183 Trailer looks great...so, I'm in.

I also like what looks to be the backstory here.

That the Jedi won the battle against the Empire, but after the Empire's defeat-

people just wanted to get on with their lives and return to normal and wanted no part of the victorious Jedis.

Think Great Britain after WWII.

In that atmosphere, the surviving true believers of the Empire, plotted their return.

Even as the Jedi languished.



I strongly suspect that even though JJ Abrams is a big ole libtard,

this movie is going to strike a fairly profound chord among conservatives.

With Reagan, Thatcher, JPII we defeated the Soviet Empire. We broke the physical and intellectual backing of leftist progressivism.

But, all along the bitter, clinging remnant of the Progressive movement was plotting their return under AGW. Gorbachev was one of the first international leaders of that movement.

Etc. Etc. War on Wymyn. Etc. And finally, the Progtard Empire returned, stronger than ever with King Cakeboy.

So, now we have to fight again.


YMMV.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (0cMkb)

184 I haven't been paying enough attention to know if "AbramsVerse 2" here is before or after that started.

It's all dumped. The Extended Universe got shitcanned when Lucasfilms went Disney. Canon is the films, the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons, a handful of new books, and the newer comics.

We won't discuss the Christmas special. (I just assume it was something Luke hallucinated in the bacta tank.)

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (9krrF)

185 "The Case for the Empire" from the Weekly Standard remains true.

Bottom line is, the Rebels have no plan, no future and nothing to offer anyone not already in a position of comfort.

And, as that article points out, the examples of Cloud City (and Jabba) show that the Empire doesn't care all that much about your day-to-day life and is more than willing to let you do what you want---run your criminal empire or massive floating city, no big deal to the Empire.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (ZvKdv)

186 166 I thought one of the official retcons was that at some point after Ep. 2 (or Ep. 3) there were multiple sources of clones other than Jango Fett and also that at some point following consolidation of power in Ep. 3 the Empire destroyed the cloning facilities in order to prevent a rebel clone army from being built.

Of course this ignores the reality that the clones concept was itself a retcon.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 20, 2015 02:50 PM (JxMoP)


That was in a lot of that in the books. Although in Star Wars, there is a line about Obi Wan serving in the Clone wars, its never explained/expanded upon. And no one said the troopers where clones.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (9221z)

187 Jango was a Gypsy guitar player.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (FkBIv)

188 @Merovign

I thought that canon died with the Disney buy?

Luke in the books was basically like Superman with his wall-rebuilding vision, or Harry Dresden. They just gave him whatever abilities they felt like at the time.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (XiVKO)

189 >>Agents of Shield is the worst for that. These tiny girls are beating walking mountains routinely.

Because: Joss Whedon. That's his thing - waif warriors.

***

I know the beta-nerd mindset, they want a girl to come in and save their asses, and ask them out, and to wuv them forever.

just beta-nerd fan service.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:54 PM (lxrIV)

190 Even if they have Ronda Rousey doing Tai Chi topless in the Road House remake?

Posted by: Benji Carver at October 20, 2015 02:51 PM (OD2ni)


Man boobs.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 02:54 PM (oOYbM)

191 Is it fair to say that Granny Clinton travels with the aid of her Imperial Walker?

-
Steampunk Imperial Walker.

http://tinyurl.com/pe5ygnl

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 02:55 PM (XUKZU)

192 178
Basically Luke is the "ultimate Jedi," the strongest force user, the best duelist, etc., in history. Until they retcon that.



And wooed the hawt redhead bad girl to the Light Side of the Force.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (0NdlF)


Once you go black, you never . . . oh who am I kidding. I am a half-white, half-robot guy.

Posted by: Darth Vader at October 20, 2015 02:55 PM (1DH1V)

193 Big Reveal----Luke has turned to the dark side and is the guy on the movie poster behind the mask...for all three of you that haven't figured that out yet.

That's the foreshadowing I get from the trailer. We'll see what gets revealed.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 02:55 PM (0NdlF)

194 and then, a girlfriend pointed this out to me, there was a middle aged mom X-wing fighter pilot.

Hey, the Naboo Aerospace National Guard took what it could get.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 02:55 PM (9krrF)

195 The "D" is silent.

Posted by: Django at October 20, 2015 02:55 PM (JtwS4)

196
I'll see this dumb movie right after the mst3k guys riff it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2015 02:55 PM (3yWsK)

197 HILLARY'S NEW WALKER WILL HAVE FOUR LEGS! AND A CREW! AND BLASTERS!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, screaming from the Outer Darkness at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (vd4oB)

198
Drudge has a photo of Trudeau. Something is wrong with his belly button.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (iQIUe)

199 Hey, the Naboo Aerospace National Guard took what it could get.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 02:55 PM (9krrF)

George W. Bush was AWOL, naturally. I have documentary proof.

Posted by: Dan Rather at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ojst)

200 bouncers are big boys for a reason.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (lxrIV)

Rousey is a world class Judo player. That is, she can toss most people on their asses (or heads) before they realize what is coming.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (Zu3d9)

201 "You do what you gotta do on Ceti Alpha V."

THIS IS CETI ALPHA V!!!

Posted by: Khan at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (OD2ni)

202 I don't really get the problem with having a black guy lead. I mean, it's not unreasonable to think that Lando, the only black guy in the galaxy, had a kid.

Posted by: mugiwara at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (szTpk)

203 Wait.. What? Star Wars is still a thing?

Posted by: LASue at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (5Rb/A)

204 Shut up and sit down Bill

Posted by: Wicked Witch of Chicago at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (dAVKy)

205 186 The closest they come to maybe sgtesting the Stormtroopers are something other than human is when they assault Leia's ship.In the novel he says something about how they move with such synchronized precision,like droids,but they aren't droids.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (8HTq1)

206 176 170 I tried to watch Winter Soldier but they had to start out with Black Widow beating up on hulking mercenaries right from the start.
Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:52 PM (8HTq1)


Or the fact that the "Ultimate Soldier" Captain America doesn't use a gun, and when he does he sucks with it?

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (9221z)

207 Why oh why does no studio make a movie from a Cherryh book?!?
Posted by: Grump928(c)


Because no one can pronounce her name.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (JmGFJ)

208 Rousey is a world class Judo player. That is, she can toss most people on their asses (or heads) before they realize what is coming.

****

sure, whatever. and McFly totally took down Biff with one punch.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (lxrIV)

209 Yes, this is exactly the sort of thing 4chan would do. I checked around, and there's some chatter, but nothing really organized. I found the source on 8chan, 4chan's recent bastard offspring. More precisely, https://8ch.net/pol/catalog.html , and this thread: https://8ch.net/pol/res/3673878.html
WARNING, those links are VERY NSFW. Also MAJOR spoilers for the upcoming movie.
Apparently a script leaked. It hasn't been verified, obviously. The current plan as of 3 PM eastern is to post a major spoiler from the ending everywhere they can. This is my gut feel, but I don't think many of them really care about the race issue, they just want to stir up as much shit as possible. That doesn't make it better, though.

Posted by: Ta-Nehisi Coates' Colon at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (cygsr)

210
#BlackStraponsMatter
Posted by: Sandra Fluke
.............................

Gotta keep The Doomsday Machine happy, right?

Posted by: wth at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (wAQA5)

211 202 I don't really get the problem with having a black guy lead. I mean, it's not unreasonable to think that Lando, the only black guy in the galaxy, had a kid.
Posted by: mugiwara at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (szTpk)

Lando seemed like a playa. I wonder if the Empire enforced child support orders?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (2Ojst)

212 Shouldn't a black StormTrooper have white spandex under black plastic blast armor? And what about asian StormTroopers?

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (DL2i+)

213 It's inclusive.

Spook Skywalker, Ole' Be Wang Cannot-Be, Dogg Vader, No Job at the Hut, Choo-Blacker, Prince-Ass Lay-her and Princess Paid-Me All My Dolla.

Is there a problem here?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2015 02:58 PM (YqcVw)

214 And what about asian StormTroopers?
Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (DL2i+)

They'd be a little short for Stormtroopers.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 02:58 PM (2Ojst)

215 170 I tried to watch Winter Soldier but they had to start out with Black Widow beating up on hulking mercenaries right from the start.
Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:52 PM (8HTq1)

Or the fact that the "Ultimate Soldier" Captain America doesn't use a gun, and when he does he sucks with it?

***

black widow's special, right? she's got a little juice?

But Marvel turned mystique into a wolverine level fighter for xmen movies...bleh.

I liked that the winter soldier wasn't afraid to pick up an AR15. come on, cap, you can pick up a gun too. You ain't batman.,

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:59 PM (lxrIV)

216 In Star Wars "lore," Luke developed a style of using one normal and one short lightsaber.

=====

The missing hand thing was early experiment with light saber nunchaku

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 02:59 PM (3ZtZW)

217 >>I don't really get the problem with having a black guy lead. I mean,
it's not unreasonable to think that Lando, the only black guy in the
galaxy, had a kid.

There is no problem - it's an astroturfed controversy.

Don't forget jedi Mace Windu. Lando was not the only one...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:59 PM (NOIQH)

218 And what about asian StormTroopers?
Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (DL2i+)

They'd be a little short for Stormtroopers.

*****

The empire went downhill once they lowered standards for female fire fighters....

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:59 PM (lxrIV)

219
I just gleamed the post, apparently something about Hillary needs a skywalker.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 20, 2015 02:59 PM (ODxAs)

220 In Star Wars "lore,"...

...lemme stop you right there

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (lxrIV)

221 215 Not that I know of.Just a highly trained agent,supposedly.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (8HTq1)

222 212 Shouldn't a black StormTrooper have white spandex under black plastic blast armor? And what about asian StormTroopers?

------------------

MY STORMTROOPER ARMOR IS PINK! HOT PINK!

Posted by: Bill Clinton, screaming from the Outer Darkness at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (vd4oB)

223 I always thought it was Django Fett.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (nFdGS)

224 >>>Although in Star Wars, there is a line about Obi Wan serving in the Clone wars, its never explained/expanded upon. And no one said the troopers where clones.


I remembered that from the movie and like someone else said above, it sounded really cool but Lucas ended up making it pretty dumb.

The whole "clones vs. droids" seemed to me a way to have a nice sterile war without any actual people dying and consequently gave the viewer no emotional attachment nor any reason to care about either side.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (JxMoP)

225
glean, gleam something something typo something.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (ODxAs)

226 Why would you name your kid Hadrien? Hadrien was a weirdo.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (iQIUe)

227 4 chain was having a bit of fun throwing the SJW quotes in their faces when they demand hiring by race


A couple of actual racists may have thought they were serious

And the creator of the work can make the characters any race they want. It's like people getting outraged about Sansas rape in Game of Thrones. It's his work. He can do anything he wants with it

Posted by: ThunderB at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (zOTsN)

228 Sorry guys, had to take a dump. What are we talking about here?

Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (1DH1V)

229 And don't get me started on Blade:Trinity...

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (8HTq1)

230 Or the fact that the "Ultimate Soldier" Captain America doesn't use a gun, and when he does he sucks with it?
Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (9221z)



I'll have you know that Diversity is a strength, and Diversity Training is its own reward.

Posted by: Captain America at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (0NdlF)

231
So how did Harper lose so badly?
Did anyone now this was gonna happen?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (3yWsK)

232 And what about asian StormTroopers?
Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (DL2i+)

They'd be a little short for Stormtroopers.


Huh? Do you know any younger Japanese men?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Opus/Bill the Cat 2016 at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (JtwS4)

233 I am pretty much over any more SW movies.

Have any of you morons seen "Martian" yet?

Posted by: Cheri at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (oiNtH)

234 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2015 02:56 PM (Zu3d9)

I could go down to my local MMA training center and pick a seasoned guy in her weight class and she wouldn't have a chance.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 03:02 PM (oOYbM)

235 Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 02:57 PM (lxrIV)

She's 150 pounds. That's not fly-weight.

I have been tossed on my ass by women not much heavier than Rousey, and not as good at Judo.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2015 03:02 PM (Zu3d9)

236


IMAX!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 20, 2015 03:02 PM (qCMvj)

237 Don't forget jedi Mace Windu. Lando was not the only one...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 02:59 PM (NOIQH)


Right you are, but another there is !

Posted by: Ghost Yoda at October 20, 2015 03:03 PM (0NdlF)

238 thus it is with hollywood classics:

step 1 a little less than PC, celebrate gender norms, male hereo.

step 2, now that step 1 made you a bundle of $$$ try to expand it a little bit, maybe having a gal who can kick ass (like Rachael Weiss in second Mummy King movie).

step 3, now that you have even more money, just forget step one and have a full PC fest (like 1950's USA is moral equivalent to USSR in crystal skull)(or any other trilogy movie, like Matrix 3...black gay Bond, etc).

step 4, blame whitey for being rayciss homophob misogynist for not liking step 3

step 5 retire, sell shit to disney.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:03 PM (lxrIV)

239 I have been tossed on my ass by women not much heavier than Rousey, and not as good at Judo.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Tell us more...

Posted by: Cheri at October 20, 2015 03:03 PM (oiNtH)

240 I don't patronize movies, TV or books that advertise diversity because I realize that this is code for lecture incoming about the evils of Western Civilization. You can be sure that a movie with a female lead and a black lead will be full on SJW. No thanks and certainly no loss thanks to the canon George Lucas has produced since the first three movies.

Posted by: baldur5 at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (ioSx/)

241

Already hoarding snacks in the basement for Mr. Plinkett

Posted by: Ms. Plinkett at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (qCMvj)

242 Explain to me why anyone over the age of 17 gives a fuck about this movie.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 20, 2015 02:31 PM (0LHZx)



Move geeks, get off my lawn! Get off my lawn, geeks, get off my lawn!

Move geeks, get off my lawn! Get off my lawn, geeks, get off my lawn!

OH NO! The fight's out
Ima 'bout to throw your ass out
Get the DRECK back, or I gonna
Get the HOSE out and spray a sucka
I been drankin and watchin' Happy Days
I've been thankin' of a hundred ways
I hate your CGI and comic book movies
And if your friends show up I'll show 'em what's groovy!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (bLnSU)

243 I could go down to my local MMA training center and pick a seasoned guy in her weight class and she wouldn't have a chance.
***
I don't think she could beat Dodson.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (lxrIV)

244 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=bvfp5l7kgo4

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (DL2i+)

245 The whole "clones vs. droids" seemed to me a way to have a nice sterile war without any actual people dying and consequently gave the viewer no emotional attachment nor any reason to care about either side.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (JxMoP)


If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh?
if you poison us, do we not die?

Posted by: Thespian Clone Trooper at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (0NdlF)

246 229 And don't get me started on Blade:Trinity...
Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 03:01 PM (8HTq1)

Admittedly I give a pass to super heroes / super power female movies. You have to suspend belief anyway. I like the Underworld series.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 03:05 PM (oOYbM)

247 Anyway,I like Edge of Tomorrow.Even with the Emily Blunt as super soldier thing,because at least they had an explanation for it.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 03:05 PM (8HTq1)

248 If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh?
if you poison us, do we not die?
Give us a stationary target, do we not miss?
Posted by: Thespian Clone Trooper at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (0NdlF)

FTFY

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 03:05 PM (2Ojst)

249 208
Rousey is a world class Judo player. That is, she can toss most people
on their asses (or heads) before they realize what is coming.

Rowdy Ronda was the first woman to win a medal in judo at the Olympics. She was the bronze medalist in the 2008 Summer Games.

Posted by: Daywalker at October 20, 2015 03:05 PM (bfpzm)

250 Just a note about Natalie Portman and Hayden Christiansen's acting. Their characters had a doomed love. It was supposed to be awkward. They were supposed to be wrong for each other. They were together for the wrong reasons and stayed together when they shouldn't have.

The acting is pretty bad, yes, BUT they weren't supposed to be super romantic/sparks/chemistry lovers anyway.

Posted by: Adrienne at October 20, 2015 03:06 PM (lVcuh)

251 They'd be a little short for Stormtroopers.

Huh? Do you know any younger Japanese men?


They'd be a little wussy for Stormtroopers.

Unless we're recruiting Stormhipsters.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 03:06 PM (9krrF)

252 246 Ahh,but neither character had any powers at all.And they could do what Blade did.

Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 03:06 PM (8HTq1)

253 Since the clonetrooper prototypes were collectively a Space Maori, I did have *one* problem about the new casting choice.

For full-on, don't fuck with them, we-breed-for-the-warrior-gene badasses the Remnant should be recruiting Space Gurkhas. Maybe Boers.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2015 03:07 PM (ZfsAh)

254 also, I know 130 pound women who have busted ghosts who were much more spectral than they were too

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:07 PM (lxrIV)

255 Anyway,I like Edge of Tomorrow.Even with the Emily Blunt as super soldier thing,because at least they had an explanation for it.

That movie deconstructed the hell out of the invincible action hero archetype.

Also, Tom Cruise dying over and over and over again.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 03:07 PM (9krrF)

256
I played myself in the original Star Wars.

Posted by: Lena and her FUPA at October 20, 2015 03:07 PM (OiFtZ)

257 Speaking of writing in social justice to no benefit of the story: started the third of the Leviathan Wakes trilogy, and one of the first things they decided to throw in there was a super-smart lesbian revered with kids.

And it's just going downhill from here. The first two were pretty good but this one's turning into a snorefest.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:07 PM (XiVKO)

258 The acting is pretty bad, yes, BUT they weren't supposed to be super romantic/sparks/chemistry lovers anyway.

Dunno, I think a really passionate/chemistry love is how you fire off an inappropriate doomed love.

"So wrong ... feels so right!"

Now cue the mood music ...

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 03:08 PM (0NdlF)

259 yeah, live.die.repeat was nice.

Blunt in yoga pants, nice.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:08 PM (lxrIV)

260 If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh?
if you poison us, do we not die?
If you stroke us, do we not hubba hubba?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 03:08 PM (XUKZU)

261
Now cue the mood music ...
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 03:08 PM (0NdlF)

Hit it, Rebo!

Posted by: Sy Snootles at October 20, 2015 03:08 PM (2Ojst)

262 >>#Blackstraponsmatter<<

Look at the *size* of that thing!

Posted by: General Zod at October 20, 2015 03:08 PM (Bdeb0)

263 Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (lxrIV)

Any ranked male fighter forget about it.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 03:09 PM (oOYbM)

264 I don't care about this race nontroversy. I think the plot is interesting. People don't understand how people forgot about the Jedi and how evil the empire was? Come on. In seven short years after 911 our nation elected a man named Barack Hussien Obama, schooled in a midrasa, with terrorist friends. And we don't really teach 911 in schools except to say it's our fault. I think the rest of the world forgetting, ignoring or deliberately hiding what happened between the Jedi and the empire totally plausible. Especially since the Empire is the state. There is no terrorism on Obamas watch. Only workplace violence

Posted by: ThunderB at October 20, 2015 03:09 PM (zOTsN)

265 We still having Star Wars? I thought Obama was gonna put an end to all that.

Posted by: wth at October 20, 2015 03:09 PM (wAQA5)

266 Where is this 150 lbs stuff coming from?

Rousey fights at 135.

Posted by: Daywalker at October 20, 2015 03:09 PM (bfpzm)

267 "It's how people are trained now.

People who love "taking the Mickey" are the only people who benefit from this. Well, they *think* they do, until the hypersensitive have enough power, then things usually don't go as well. "

Just ask all the artists & poets & literary types who supported the Reds back in 1918. As soon as the Soviets were firmly in power, one by one they started to become Enemies of the People to be liquidated.

As far as the SW thing, I'm boycotting Hollywood anyway, plus I never followed the movie series.

So much of the daily churn of "controversy" is just large scale trolling, this case is just more obvious than average.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at October 20, 2015 03:09 PM (go6ud)

268 The acting is pretty bad, yes, BUT they weren't supposed to be super romantic/sparks/chemistry lovers anyway.

Dunno, I think a really passionate/chemistry love is how you fire off an inappropriate doomed love.


***

the prequels were like obama's administration, just shit they thought up of on the fly, thrown against the wall to see what would stick.

as if there were no script doctors in hollywood to help Lucas figure out how boys and girls act. OR what would drive a guy to the dark side.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:09 PM (lxrIV)

269 I remember when Hans shot first in the Cantina. The whole place was full of White People.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at October 20, 2015 03:10 PM (NHtMs)

270 Where is this 150 lbs stuff coming from?

Rousey fights at 135.

***

I think I read somewhere her walking around weight is 150. She, like all MMA's, cuts about 20 pounds to make weight.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:10 PM (lxrIV)

271 >>Anyway,I like Edge of Tomorrow.Even with the Emily Blunt as super soldier thing,because at least they had an explanation for it.


That, and all the warriors were cast w/shorter actors so that Cruise didn't look out of place. Like Cruise, Emily looked big next to them.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 03:10 PM (NOIQH)

272 I am disappointed in that there seem to be no Skywalker or Solo children.

Posted by: Bob from Ohio at October 20, 2015 03:11 PM (t3cNy)

273 We ain't found shit!

Posted by: Black Spaceballs Stormtrooper at October 20, 2015 03:11 PM (L55Pj)

274 If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh?
if you poison us, do we not die?


If you blow up our Death Star, do our molecules not separate at the speed of light?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 20, 2015 03:11 PM (hLRSq)

275 I thought that canon died with the Disney buy?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 02:53 PM (XiVKO)


They will likely use whatever is convenient from whatever source. And I keep hearing that SWTOR is Canon, so they've already pulled some non-movie material in.

The SW "universe" has the problem now of having "fan canon" (most things) and "official canon." That will probably be in flux.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 03:12 PM (bLnSU)

276 Just because you boycott does not mean you never see the movie.

You have to buy it second hand or from a pawn shop.

So long as the person making the money is not DisneyMarvelESPNABCStarWarsetc.

Posted by: Circe O'Valle at October 20, 2015 03:12 PM (1vvap)

277 Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:04 PM (lxrIV)

Any ranked male fighter forget about it.

***

right?

and then you got the thing where any guy who starts shit at a bar is going to be at least 5 inches taller and at least 50 pounds heavier.

She's built for speed not cargo, eh

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:12 PM (lxrIV)

278 I am disappointed in that there seem to be no Skywalker or Solo children.

-------

The Rebel maternity leave program was horrible, but the child support system was the toughest in the world.

Posted by: SH at October 20, 2015 03:12 PM (gmeXX)

279 That, and all the warriors were cast w/shorter
actors so that Cruise didn't look out of place. Like Cruise, Emily
looked big next to them.




Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 03:10 PM (NOIQH)

That's SOP for Cruise.

Posted by: Daywalker at October 20, 2015 03:12 PM (bfpzm)

280 and then you got the thing where any guy who starts
shit at a bar is going to be at least 5 inches taller and at least 50
pounds heavier.



She's built for speed not cargo, eh

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:12 PM (lxrIV)

Most guys that start shit in a bar can't fight.
The ones that CAN fight don't start shit. They don't have to...

Posted by: Daywalker at October 20, 2015 03:14 PM (bfpzm)

281 Until I can watch it for free, I think the only new SW fix I'm going to get is Battlefront.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:14 PM (XiVKO)

282 The Rebel maternity leave program was horrible, but the child support system was the toughest in the world.

The Jedi Summer Camp was murder.

Posted by: Ta-Nehisi Ernie Coates at October 20, 2015 03:14 PM (evdj2)

283 Solution there, it seems to me, is to create all CGI characters.

Posted by: Fritz at October 20, 2015 03:14 PM (UzPAd)

284 The whole "clones vs. droids" seemed to me a way to have a nice sterile war without any actual people dying and consequently gave the viewer no emotional attachment nor any reason to care about either side.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 20, 2015 03:00 PM (JxMoP)


Lucas was cribbing from Dune, so I guess he wanted to have something big in the past, along the lines of the Butlerian Jihad to shape his "Universe". Give his story depth. And explain how an Empire could form when there were Jedi to protect the Republic.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (9221z)

285 281 Until I can watch it for free, I think the only new SW fix I'm going to get is Battlefront.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:14 PM (XiVKO)

Looks great, but I refuse to shell out $60-$70 for it.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (2Ojst)

286
I am disappointed in that there seem to be no Skywalker or Solo children.
......................

Space radiation fried their gonads.

Posted by: wth at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (wAQA5)

287 Hell, I haven't stopped boycotting the original Star Wars. Did you know that James Earl Jones is a black man? It's true!

Posted by: Confederate Veteran t-bird at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (3U4+k)

288 If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh?
if you poison us, do we not die?


And if you give us lasers, do we not set up the coolest techno dance club on Coruscant?


"Have you seen Palpatine on the dance floor? Man's phenomenal!"

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (hLRSq)

289 the prequels were like obama's administration, just shit they thought up of on the fly, thrown against the wall to see what would stick.


And as much anti-Semitism.

Posted by: Watto at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (JtwS4)

290 Say what you will about Lucas, but he did a hell of a job casting me as the galaxy.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (W+w2W)

291 FLASH!



Biden seen talking to his secret adviser Jugdish at the Wilmington I-95 exit about whether or not to run.




They shared a grape Slurpee and could be seen in an animated discussion.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (jJRIy)

292 Most guys that start shit in a bar can't fight.
The ones that CAN fight don't start shit. They don't have to...

***

now that I think about it, original Roadhouse was kinda bullshit where swayze had enough room to roundhouse a guy or do whatever fancy move he did to make up for his stature.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (lxrIV)

293 Wth, or that wampa ate Luke's junk in ESB

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (ZfsAh)

294 Why does the legitimacy of conservatism ride on their being no racists in America? There are racists in America (pointing at self). There are racists. Conservatism makes for better societies. Not contradictory statements.

Posted by: bjk at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (x2rNW)

295 The girl is the child

Posted by: ThunderB at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (zOTsN)

296 290 Say what you will about Lucas, but he did a hell of a job casting me as the galaxy.
Posted by: Brian Dennehy at October 20, 2015 03:15 PM (W+w2W)

I thought you played the binary language of moisture evaporators.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (2Ojst)

297 I am disappointed in that there seem to be no Skywalker or Solo children.

After seeing that dolt Hayden Whoever with Natalie Portman, I'm not surprised.

Posted by: t-bird at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (3U4+k)

298 The fact that this was a troll is irrelevant. It's made the rounds on FB, and that's all it takes for the LIVs.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (vgIRn)

299 /pol/ will make America and Star Wars great again.

Posted by: Bloat at October 20, 2015 03:17 PM (rHaCi)

300 Can a black guy even do the Wilhelm Scream? Doesn't seem In-Character.
Come to think on that, why would a clone do the Wilhelm Scream?

But, Wilhelm Scream they did.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 20, 2015 03:17 PM (xq1UY)

301 #MandalorianLivesMatter


Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 20, 2015 03:17 PM (fWAjv)

302 The Rebel maternity leave program was horrible, but the child support system was the toughest in the world.

***

At least the empire had paid maternity leave....

XXOO

[help me recall name of liberal bitch who praised taleban for schools and public works]

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (lxrIV)

303 I started a highly reviewed scifi novel called "Empty Space" this weekend. Twenty pages in they had women in all places of power and command, one so special men were not supposed to even look at her directly, while the "rigid right wing" planetary government refused to bend or compromise on any social issues like abortion. No really, that was the narration.
I threw it away. SJW people have destroyed the Nation, the West and now are destroying centuries of hard-won culture. They would drop a toaster into their own bathwater if the right groups told them to.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (NHtMs)

304 Scoop Jackson is still dead, so is Jim Webb's bid for the presidency.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (jJRIy)

305 My family could only afford a Lightsword (C) knock-off for me when I was a kid and not an official Lightsaber (C) because all of our money had to go to Kaboom!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (qH+fk)

306 For the safety of our souls, we must be provided with an official AOSHQ Star Wars canon/apocrypha checklist so us hordelings can remain faithful and avoid temptation by Lucasfer, that fallen Angel of Industrial Light and Magic.

Posted by: irright at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (zxnPQ)

307 I don't care about skin color, ever. And I hated the whole clonetrooper plotline anyway.

But George opened that can of works with Attack of the Clones. If these guys aren't 'real' storm/clonetroopers, fine. But if you know Star Wars geeks like I do, they can get worked up by what's canon and what's not. It's not racial, it's a passionate desire for consistency in their fantasy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (pWzW/)

308
"I am disappointed in that there seem to be no Skywalker or Solo children"

They are a couple. They will come out of the closet in this one.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2015 03:19 PM (uhftQ)

309 while the "rigid right wing" planetary government refused to bend or compromise on any social issues like abortion. No really, that was the narration.
***
it's always the handmaidens tale with these people

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:19 PM (lxrIV)

310 Oh yeah, no way I'm paying $60 for it.

I plan on being balls-deep in Fallout 4 when Battlefront comes out, anyways.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:19 PM (XiVKO)

311 291
FLASH!
Biden seen talking to his secret adviser Jugdish at the Wilmington I-95 exit about whether or not to run.


They shared a grape Slurpee and could be seen in an animated discussion.


Posted by: Nip Sip at October 20, 2015 03:16 PM (jJRIy)

Then raced over to see Brian Williams to start a friendly little bar bet - who can "stretch the truth" the farthest and with the most people buying into it as gospel.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 20, 2015 03:19 PM (DlmoZ)

312 I am disappointed in that there seem to be no Skywalker or Solo children.

___________________________

Hans' gonads never descended after being frozen in that carbonite.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2015 03:19 PM (YqcVw)

313 And Luke's "sister" used to be his brother...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2015 03:20 PM (0x/TW)

314 Anyway,I like Edge of Tomorrow.Even with the Emily Blunt as super soldier thing,because at least they had an explanation for it.
Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 03:05 PM (8HTq1)



Yup. I like Edge of Tomorrow quite a bit. Emily Blunt's super soldier thingy has an explanation and it allows Tom Cruise's character to go through the entire range of reactions to it. The bit where it shows why he finally embraced turning into a hero was nicely done.

Posted by: alexthechick - All The Whatever Hands at October 20, 2015 03:20 PM (mf5HN)

315 no skywalker/solo children?

they probably appear in next movie

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:20 PM (lxrIV)

316 Actually Luke and Leia did have a kid between ANH and ESB but he was born with a hunchback and a misplaced eyesocket

They reused the concept art for Sloth in "Goonies"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2015 03:20 PM (ZfsAh)

317 it's a passionate desire for consistency in their fantasy.

Kate Upton is always satisfied yet eager for more.

Posted by: Ta-Nehisi Ernie Coates at October 20, 2015 03:21 PM (evdj2)

318 Posted by: Daywalker at October 20, 2015 03:14 PM (bfpzm)

I wish that were true in my day in South Louisiana. Some guys purposedly went out on the weekends to fight. And they could fight. I was always on guard for the sucker punch for some imagined slight.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 03:21 PM (oOYbM)

319 by Lucasfer, that fallen Angel of Industrial Light and Magic.
Posted by: irright at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (zxnPQ)



Annnd yoink!

Posted by: alexthechick - All The Whatever Hands at October 20, 2015 03:21 PM (mf5HN)

320 Also, there are NO FEMALE Ewoks.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 20, 2015 03:21 PM (uhftQ)

321 317 it's a passionate desire for consistency in their fantasy.

Kate Upton is always satisfied yet eager for more.

Posted by: Ta-Nehisi Ernie Coates at October 20, 2015 03:21 PM (evdj2)


And not judgemental.

Posted by: Iblis at October 20, 2015 03:21 PM (9221z)

322 I really liked Jim Webb in Up.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at October 20, 2015 03:22 PM (NHtMs)

323 I wonder if Harrison Ford gets a contact high when he embraces Carrie Fischer.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 03:23 PM (Ypc8j)

324 Interesting that the current Benghazi Committee investigation has found that the previous 7 committees ( I didn't know that there were that many) never reviewed Ambassador Stevens email requests for more security starting in June of that year.

WTF?

Posted by: Cheri at October 20, 2015 03:23 PM (oiNtH)

325 I really liked Jim Webb in Up.

Nothing tops his role in Dragnet.

Posted by: Ta-Nehisi Ernie Coates at October 20, 2015 03:23 PM (evdj2)

326 Akbar might be a fish, but he's super British.

Posted by: bourbonchicken at October 20, 2015 03:24 PM (E9k2N)

327 We ain't found shit!
Posted by: Black Spaceballs Stormtrooper


You're using the wrong comb!

Posted by: Dark Helmet at October 20, 2015 03:24 PM (FkBIv)

328 Carrie's had multiple electro-shock treatments. She's actually an advocate for its use in mental health.

So, she's loopy, but it ain't just the meds talking.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:24 PM (XiVKO)

329 I wonder if Harrison Ford gets a contact high when he embraces Carrie Fischer.

Let's just say neither of them look like they used to.

Posted by: Cheri at October 20, 2015 03:24 PM (oiNtH)

330
320 Also, there are NO FEMALE Ewoks.

____________________________

cis-Ewoks.

Bigot.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2015 03:24 PM (YqcVw)

331 But, Wilhelm Scream they did.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 20, 2015 03:17 PM (xq1UY)


I fuckin' hate that.

It's like, you're getting into the drama of the scene, what the characters are experiencing... and then the fucking sound guy dances across the screen in a comedy wig.

Or an actor stops and winks to the camera.

Everybody's a freaking five-year-old.

It *might* have been funny if it happened twice or three times, but it's been in freaking thousands of movies.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 03:24 PM (bLnSU)

332 never reviewed Ambassador Stevens email requests for more security starting in June of that year.
WTF?

They were too busy going over the new china pattern for the embassy in Vienna.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 20, 2015 03:25 PM (qH+fk)

333 324
Interesting that the current Benghazi Committee investigation has found
that the previous 7 committees ( I didn't know that there were that
many) never reviewed Ambassador Stevens email requests for more security
starting in June of that year.



WTF?

Because the GOPe never had the intent of doing anything as a result of the hearing. Well, except for making soundbites for TV and campaign ads. Just keep the committee in the news, never mind any results. With the politicians of either ilk, it is never about the results.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 20, 2015 03:25 PM (DlmoZ)

334 [help me recall name of liberal bitch who praised taleban for schools and public works]

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (lxrIV)

Patty Murray.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 20, 2015 03:25 PM (fWAjv)

335 >>[help me recall name of liberal bitch who praised taleban for schools and public works]


Patti Murray D-WA

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 03:26 PM (NOIQH)

336 Also, there are NO FEMALE Ewoks.

At least one is seen cradling a cub in RotJ.

I don't recommend doing a web search to corroborate that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 03:26 PM (9krrF)

337 Geez guys. I'm standing right here.
Posted by: Lando Calrissian
------------------------------------------
We need a female Native American Indian character.
How about Lando Lakes?

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 03:26 PM (E5UB0)

338 And after Leia was done with Hoth there wasn't any snow left

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2015 03:27 PM (ZfsAh)

339 Fischer came to speak to a local group in Houston and was stoned out of her mind. It was legendary. People still speak of it

Posted by: ThunderB at October 20, 2015 03:27 PM (zOTsN)

340 Ace, I just think its worth pointing out that Marvel COMICS has always been independent of the films, just in case it influences the boycott.

Posted by: Cashin at October 20, 2015 03:28 PM (IdiSI)

341 [help me recall name of liberal bitch who praised taleban for schools and public works]

-
Senator Patty Murray. And don't forget daycare.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 03:28 PM (fFIVI)

342 Spoiler: Han's son murderers him and becomes the new Darth Vader, and Han's daughter becomes romantically involved with the black stormtrooper, who is also the new Luke Skywalker.

Posted by: Bloat at October 20, 2015 03:28 PM (rHaCi)

343
Test my server.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 20, 2015 03:29 PM (8XRCm)

344 YES!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 20, 2015 03:29 PM (8XRCm)

345 It's very clear in the books that the Empire discriminated against certain races.

That somehow they didn't discriminate against blacks seems a bit contrived.

Why not have someone NOT of the Empire be the mandatory black guy?

Oh well, after Lucas shit all over his Opus Magnus, I lost all interest anyway.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 20, 2015 03:30 PM (Xo1Rt)

346 Fischer came to speak to a local group in Houston and was stoned out of her mind. It was legendary. People still speak of it

Posted by: ThunderB

I was at the Comedy Club in Hollywood and one of the acts was Pauly Shore. He came on stage with a half empty bottle of Jack and was so drunk he could barely stand let alone put on a good show. He was finally helped off stage. He sucks bad enough sober and only gets this gig because his mother owns the place.

Posted by: Cheri at October 20, 2015 03:30 PM (oiNtH)

347 [help me recall name of liberal bitch who praised taleban for schools and public works]

-
Senator Patty Murray. And don't forget daycare.

***

thanks!

At least the Empire has maternity leave!

Patty Murray

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (lxrIV)

348

hmmm

just tried a Newcastle brown ale

refreshing and light

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (qCMvj)

349 After what JJ Abrams did with Star Trek, I have a heavy sense of foreboding that this may be another lens-flared, low-wattage movie heavy on sparkly things, shaky-cam and a ridiculous plot.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (ppaKI)

350 I'm pretty sure all the Ewoks were black and they had a zipper growing out of their back.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (oDCMR)

351 [help me recall name of liberal bitch who praised taleban for schools and public works]

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:18 PM (lxrIV)


Washington senator Patty Murray praised Bin Laden for building roads and schools (which he didn't really do, though he funded some Madrasas).

It's a bitch to search for politicians from "Washington" because DC.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (bLnSU)

352 -
Posted by: alexthechick - All The Whatever Hands at October 20, 2015 03:21 PM (mf5HN)
---------

Actually a little proud of that one. Although with all the Lucas hate out there on the intertubes, no way it hasn't been done before.

Posted by: irright at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (zxnPQ)

353 I don't recommend doing a web search to corroborate that.


Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 03:26 PM (9krrF)


http://tinyurl.com/q8qb5ja

Keep 'em all for yourself Brother?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (fWAjv)

354 What Patty Murray said *does* however apply to the caliphate though.

ISIS puts their social-service programmes up front in their propaganda

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2015 03:31 PM (ZfsAh)

355 "We need a female Native American Indian character."


I'm ready for my closeup, paleface Abrams.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at October 20, 2015 03:32 PM (OD2ni)

356 302
Taliban worshiper was US Senator Pattycake Murray from the Great Soviet State of Washington. Mental midget personified.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (uPxUo)

357 Fischer wasn't at a comedy club. She was at a yearly luncheon for a very big women's charity as the guest speaker. Stoned out of her mind

Posted by: ThunderB at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (zOTsN)

358 Was it Murray that stole her election?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (XiVKO)

359 Now seeking infidels for our Head Start program. Orange jumpsuit included!

Posted by: ISIS at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (ppaKI)

360 >>After what JJ Abrams did with Star Trek, I have a heavy sense of
foreboding that this may be another lens-flared, low-wattage movie heavy
on sparkly things, shaky-cam and a ridiculous plot.


Ugh, don't get me started on badass Spock who saves the day and gets the girl.....

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (NOIQH)

361 The cruciform light saber that Sith Lord was using looked like a dogwhistle to me. Christianity is teh evilz !!1

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 20, 2015 03:34 PM (ZfsAh)

362 I mean, blatantly stole it?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:34 PM (XiVKO)

363 The ObamaCare death spiral. It has begun.

http://bit.ly/1hQXtVA

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2015 03:34 PM (TxJGV)

364 I still have the original Star Wars, Empire, and Return of the Jedi on laserdisc. And they will remain mine.

No number of prequels, sequels, reboots, or whatever is going to fuck up my enjoyment of these three flicks.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at October 20, 2015 03:35 PM (eytER)

365 Come on people. Don't we know by now that (fictional) minorities can do anything white people can do? Just insert one in the mix. Anywhere, anytime, it doesn't matter. Need a jedi master? Here you go. A general? Take this one here. A President? Got just the one.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2015 03:35 PM (go5uR)

366 All that money and tech and they haven't figure out how to prevent or erase wrinkles? Old age?

What's the point of having a future if it's the same old shit.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 20, 2015 03:35 PM (Xo1Rt)

367 hmmmm...

nostalgia + racial grievance?

i think we have a businesses model, people!

clang clang clang

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at October 20, 2015 03:37 PM (WTSFk)

368 Was it Murray that stole her election?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (XiVKO)


Probably, but the famous one your probably thinking of is the 2004 governor's election. Rossi won the first two counts, but each recount kept adding votes for Gregiore, and mysteriously the recounts stopped suddenly when she won by 129 votes. The judge threw out the contest suit and Rossi conceded, like they always do.

Complete fucking election theft, "thank you ma'am may I have another?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 03:37 PM (bLnSU)

369 Because the internet is a loving internet I can tell you that the green dancing girl what falls out of her shirt is named Oola.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 20, 2015 03:37 PM (JtwS4)

370 Yeah, that's probably it.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:37 PM (XiVKO)

371 Was it Murray that stole her election?

-
No, her constituents relate to her. They're all idiots, too.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 03:38 PM (fFIVI)

372 How long to Wookies live?

About as long a Vulcan's.

Posted by: Paladin at October 20, 2015 03:38 PM (LTquJ)

373 The key is, if you look hard enough, or deep enough, you can find someone who says EXACTLY what you want to complain about.

It will happen... there will be ONE idiot out there somewhere...

People believe, and say, all kinds of silly stuff. How many have been Anally probed by Aliens... how many have seen Angels... how many believe Elvis is still alive...

You then take that idiot... and tar entire Tribes with what that Idiot says... you connect that idiots beliefs, not to himself, but tar a larger group with it, to shut them up about REAL things.

It is how Whites have been successfully shut up for a couple of generations now... its how normal people on the Abortion debate are shut up by BOTH sets of extremists... its also why the Border is out of control and the Laws are being ignored...

We have allowed ourselves to be shut up by 'collective' guilt, which we as individuals are not guilty of...

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 20, 2015 03:39 PM (qh617)

374 What's the point of having a future if it's the same old shit.

But it's the same old shit with bigger explosions! Laser-beams melting trucks and commandos jet-skiing out of burning planes! Blammo!

Posted by: Hollywood at October 20, 2015 03:39 PM (ppaKI)

375 I remember there being a similar controversy on Twitter when all the leftists were sure conservatives were going to freak out about the interracial family in the Cheerio's ad. That started a flood of conservatives posting pics of their interracial families.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 20, 2015 03:39 PM (0MJkC)

376 However, that gay soup ad still annoys me.

Because it's base and pandering, not because gay.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:40 PM (XiVKO)

377
'Tard Wars

I already have forty-plus-year-old fanbois in my various feeds creaming their jeans because they secured tickets to the earliest showings.

Get a life is all I can say.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2015 03:40 PM (VLTL9)

378 376 However, that gay soup ad still annoys me.

Because it's base and pandering, not because gay.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:40 PM (XiVKO)

Gives a whole new connotation to Cream of Mushroom.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 03:41 PM (2Ojst)

379 358
Was it Murray that stole her election?


Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (XiVKO)


Gregoire.

"Must count all the votes." "Every must count!"

*Find trunkload of ballots in King County.*
*Eyes vote totals in her favor.*


"We must respect the integrity of the process. The election is over. The people have spoken. We must not subject the people to a costly recount."


Absolute filth, that woman.

Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 03:41 PM (1DH1V)

380 Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 03:41 PM (1DH1V)

Why aren't you at your post?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 03:41 PM (2Ojst)

381 363 The ObamaCare death spiral. It has begun.

http://bit.ly/1hQXtVA
Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2015 03:34 PM (TxJGV)

___________

No worries. We'll just print an extra trillion dollars and all will be well.

That's essentially what we've done with Medicare and Social Security for the past 25 years. Obamacare will collapse some day, but don't expect it to happen any time soon. We'll keep this monstrosity alive for a few decades as it bleeds us dry.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 20, 2015 03:41 PM (0LHZx)

382 "Must count all the votes." "Every must count!"

**GOP "deerrrrr sounds good to me"**********

*Find trunkload of ballots in King County.*
*Eyes vote totals in her favor.*

**GOP "deerrrrr sounds good to me"**********


"We must respect the integrity of the process. The election is over. The people have spoken. We must not subject the people to a costly recount."

**GOP "deerrrrr sounds good to me"**********

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:42 PM (lxrIV)

383 And the gay soup ad has a SW reference in it, so totes on-topic.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:43 PM (XiVKO)

384 There's an important debate occurring on twitter as to whether Alderaan had it coming, whether it was an actual genocide and whether Alderaan shot 1st.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 20, 2015 03:43 PM (TJCSB)

385 380
Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 03:41 PM (1DH1V)



Why aren't you at your post?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 20, 2015 03:41 PM (2Ojst)


Talk to my union rep, buddy.

Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 03:43 PM (1DH1V)

386 Gives a whole new connotation to Cream of Mushroom.

Campbell's Creme of Sum yung Gui.

Posted by: obligatory at October 20, 2015 03:43 PM (evdj2)

387 If the movie is anything like the trailer, the movie is going to suck.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 20, 2015 03:43 PM (mf2LM)

388 Who gives a shit about the race of the stormtroopers? It's not like the filmmakers are hiding anything from the public or trying to pull a fast one. I'm more offended by the fact that a show targeted directly towards kids (Legend of Korra) turned their main character into a lesbian in the last season just to sneak it under the nose of parents who figured "My kid's been watching this show for a couple of years. No need to worry about the content." That's the sort of subterfuge that pisses me off.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 03:44 PM (Ypc8j)

389 I'm more offended by the fact that a show targeted directly towards kids (Legend of Korra) turned their main character into a lesbian in the last season

But, was she hot?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 03:45 PM (evdj2)

390 I'd go so far as to say half of RotJ sucked, and half of Ep3 was good. So really, only three full movies were worth a shit.

So, 50/50 chance.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:45 PM (XiVKO)

391
But it's the same old shit with bigger explosions! Laser-beams melting trucks and commandos jet-skiing out of burning planes! Blammo!

Perhaps, just perhaps, this movie should be marketed with the standard warning about seeing a doctor if you spring a boner that lasts four hours or more.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2015 03:45 PM (VLTL9)

392 or are we talking lumberjack here?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 03:45 PM (evdj2)

393 Back during the Ward Churchill foofahrah, WND took a satirical piece i wrote about him (wherein he attributed the whole "little Eichmanns" thing to a faulty spellchecker that autocucumbered "little Entemann's") and ran it as straight news; they didn't even bother to attribute it to me. When I called them on it, they disappeared the article and ignored my request for a published apology/correction.

So I wouldn't wear myself out believing anythig they say.

Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at October 20, 2015 03:46 PM (wKcQA)

394 There's an important debate occurring on twitter
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 20, 2015 03:43 PM (TJCSB)

___________

LOL. Doesn't matter what the topic is. The words important and twitter cannot co-exist in a sentence.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 20, 2015 03:46 PM (0LHZx)

395 390 Everytime I see ROTJ, I like it less. It gets such a mulligan because it's Star Wars but there are deeper problems with it other than Ewoks.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 03:47 PM (Ypc8j)

396 Ugh, don't get me started on badass Spock who saves the day and gets the girl.....

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 03:33 PM (NOIQH)


That didn't even bother me like the missed opportunity of letting Kirk die, and then a guilt-plagued Spock (who, let's face it, is pretty emotional compared to the original) finds a way to go back in time and save George Kirk, thus restoring something closer to the original timeline.

Sure, time resets are cheesy, but they do that all the time in Trek. They could use the Guardian of Forever.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 20, 2015 03:47 PM (bLnSU)

397 As stupid and as likely fake it is, I wish 'conservatives' would stop reacting to this kind of thing by rushing to distance themselves from it and attack the made-up phantoms who made the complaint as crazy racists.

These people may be stupid, they may be overreacting, but racist white supremacists because they think a black stormtrooper is out of place? Bullshit.

Posted by: Crude at October 20, 2015 03:47 PM (DUynq)

398 Oh, and on the Harrison Ford vs. Hillary age thing...

Its OK... Harrison has already BEEN President a couple of times...

Hillary is just running....

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 20, 2015 03:47 PM (qh617)

399 Can't we all just get along?


Here's a movie what's got-

Zombies
Vampires
and hostile Alien invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXL3Wv1ryG4


"Freaks of Nature" looks to be moron friendly.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 20, 2015 03:47 PM (0cMkb)

400 What would be nice is if they worked some of the totalitarian leanings of the Rebels after they took power into the story.

Really though, all you can hope for is they accidentally make the chosen bad guy the one the audience think is the good guy. Like Rorschach.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:48 PM (XiVKO)

401 No interest in seeing this, I have seen enough and heard enough to be of the opinion it will be crap next to the original movies.

It will make a bucket of money, but still crap.

Posted by: gdonovan at October 20, 2015 03:48 PM (Ipxoj)

402 Zombies
Vampires
and hostile Alien invasion


Fire, flood, earthquakes?

Perhaps set in a Post-apocalyptic wasteland?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 20, 2015 03:49 PM (evdj2)

403 Who gives a shit about the race of the stormtroopers? It's not like the filmmakers are hiding anything from the public or trying to pull a fast one. I'm more offended by the fact that a show targeted directly towards kids (Legend of Korra) turned their main character into a lesbian in the last season just to sneak it under the nose of parents who figured "My kid's been watching this show for a couple of years. No need to worry about the content." That's the sort of subterfuge that pisses me off.

***

like I said above, after step 1, the PC thugs go to steps 2 and 3. see also, the simpsons.

Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 20, 2015 03:49 PM (lxrIV)

404 Again I find myself at a loss for words. There is absolutely nothing I could say that would add or subtract to this topic.

Thank You for reading this post. You may now resume your regularly scheduled doldrums.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 20, 2015 03:49 PM (kLrYQ)

405 The debate is over, we have the video, Alderaan shot 1st : http://tinyurl.com/qhtq94q

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 20, 2015 03:50 PM (TJCSB)

406 I remember reading an essay years ago putting forth the argument that the Empire was actually more beneficial for the average galactic citizen than the chaotic and anarchic rebels. It argued that the post-imperial era would be very messy and bloody indeed. I wish I could find it again.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 20, 2015 03:50 PM (ppaKI)

407 >>
And the gay soup ad has a SW reference in it, so totes on-topic.

Bank of America ad - lesbian couple adopting deaf, brown female child. Think they win SJW bingo with that one.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 03:51 PM (NOIQH)

408 @Naes

I think the sheer scale of the final starship fight in RotJ, plus lots of lightsaber time, is what saves the movie. Otherwise, it's a steaming pile.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:51 PM (XiVKO)

409 No political motivation, no matter how righteous or moral will keep me from seeing this seemingly beautiful work of art. I would spend three straight winters at valley forge before i boycotted this movie.

Posted by: Connor at October 20, 2015 03:52 PM (Z1VE6)

410 I guess I will re-post this.

Women cosplayers with their ideas of what female Imperial Stormtrooper armor should look like.

https://youtu.be/AV7blK-IVJ0

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2015 03:52 PM (e0Bua)

411
The really important question to be answered in this movie is "Who is coming out as a tranny?"

Ima gonna go big here and say Luke Skywalker and Leia Cinnabons. "You stole my XX genes in the womb!" "Well, you stole my XY genes!". The alternate title for this dreck will be "Criss-Cross Applesauce".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2015 03:53 PM (VLTL9)

412 Uh, the clone troopers weren't white either.

The clone actor is Maori.

So, if there really were a racial angle here it would have been directed at the original clones too.

Also, remember when Episode I sent all the SJW's to their fainting couches because the Trade Federation was racist (asian stereotypes) and Jar Jar was racist (Jamaican stereotype)?

Posted by: gwelf at October 20, 2015 03:53 PM (D3MNp)

413 FWIW, been watching the old ones with my 9 yr old grandson. I still like them, bad acting etc included.

Posted by: FCF at October 20, 2015 03:54 PM (kejii)

414 Female cosplayers are like the frat bro's that dress up like a baby every Halloween.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:54 PM (XiVKO)

415
Billy the Kid's gang and Part Garret all married Mexican women. They had hair styles and clothes you would associate with middle class non Mexican women. And the guys looked very married. Sort of nice to see such middle class values....

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 20, 2015 03:55 PM (iQIUe)

416
408 @Naes

I think the sheer scale of the final starship fight in RotJ, plus lots of lightsaber time, is what saves the movie. Otherwise, it's a steaming pile.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:51 PM (XiVKO)



Fight over the sarlaac. I think Lucas tried to recapture that several times in the prequels and failed.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 20, 2015 03:55 PM (z/Ubi)

417 408 The space battle is unmatched. But think about this: Luke's story is totally irrelevant to the resolution of the plot. The Jedi didn't do shit to save the universe. If Luke died on the Death Star or if he killed Vader and joined the Emperor or if he killed them both was irrelevant. The rebels would have blown up the shield and their fleet would have won. It's not like LOTR where Frodo must destroy the ring or else all is lost.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 03:55 PM (Ypc8j)

418 407
>>

And the gay soup ad has a SW reference in it, so totes on-topic.

Bank of America ad - lesbian couple adopting deaf, brown female child. Think they win SJW bingo with that one.


Posted by: Lizzy at October 20, 2015 03:51 PM (NOIQH)


From the makers who brought you pin the vag on the Modern Man.

SJW Bingo! TM.

New from HasbrowXe.

Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 03:55 PM (1DH1V)

419 412 Uh, the clone troopers weren't white either.

The clone actor is Maori.

So, if there really were a racial angle here it would have been directed at the original clones too.

Also, remember when Episode I sent all the SJW's to their fainting couches because the Trade Federation was racist (asian stereotypes) and Jar Jar was racist (Jamaican stereotype)?
Posted by: gwelf at October 20, 2015 03:53 PM (D3MNp)


Don't forget about me!

Posted by: Watto the space Jew at October 20, 2015 03:56 PM (lnemt)

420
Two A-10s just flew over me here in Sussex County, DE.

Love seeing them! Woo-hoo!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2015 03:57 PM (VLTL9)

421 Raiders of the Lost Arc was the same way, but that movie is still awesome.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:57 PM (XiVKO)

422 Everytime I see ROTJ, I like it less. It gets such a mulligan because it's Star Wars but there are deeper problems with it other than Ewoks.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 03:47 PM (Ypc8j)


Care to expand on that? Might as well nerd out on the SW thread.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 03:57 PM (0NdlF)

423 Ok, don't really buy Campbells anyway. Bofa would be a pain to relocate from, though. Still, when they do this pc sh*t it's like, "You need us. We dare you not to do business with us". That's the problem with these megacorporations. The power goes to their heads.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 03:57 PM (E5UB0)

424 They need to feature clockboy as the master rebel starfleet engineer.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 03:59 PM (E5UB0)

425 417 408 The space battle is unmatched. But think about this: Luke's story is totally irrelevant to the resolution of the plot. The Jedi didn't do shit to save the universe. If Luke died on the Death Star or if he killed Vader and joined the Emperor or if he killed them both was irrelevant. The rebels would have blown up the shield and their fleet would have won. It's not like LOTR where Frodo must destroy the ring or else all is lost.
Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 03:55 PM (Ypc8j)



Um, emperor lives. Gets off the Death Star even if it is destroyed. He continues to lead the empire.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 20, 2015 03:59 PM (z/Ubi)

426 Star Wars?

Howard Hughes did it first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqD3hN9G2AM

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 20, 2015 04:00 PM (mf2LM)

427 Desert waif? Luke-Leia love child.

Han was cucked.

Posted by: Man from Wazzustan at October 20, 2015 04:01 PM (uPxUo)

428 I'm parked next to a shitbox chevy with NKOTB and I heart New Kids on the Block painted on the side. Plus, plate frame with NKOTB

Its gray, so I can't assume its a girl....

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:01 PM (3ZtZW)

429 Billy the Kid's gang and Part Garret all married Mexican women. They had hair styles and clothes you would associate with middle class non Mexican women. And the guys looked very married. Sort of nice to see such middle class values....

-
Robbing banks and killing lawmen are mide class Democratic values.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 20, 2015 04:01 PM (fFIVI)

430 Nobody had an issue with Billy D Wms as Lando. It's just NOTICEABLY strange that the first shot of the new starwars is a black guy in a stormtrooper outfit. My head expects to hear audience laughter as though it were the intro of an SNL parody commercial. Black dude in a stormtrooper costume (as the first thing you see) brings to mind two things: WTF? then.... oh goddamnit is Star Wars going all PC/SJW now?



And don't even get me started on Lucas' idea to cast Samuel L Jackson as a Jedi. "YESTHEYDESERVEDTODIEANDIHOPETHEYBURNINHELL"..... yeah.... that guy's a Jedi.

Posted by: Sam In Va at October 20, 2015 04:02 PM (JsDSm)

431 I mean, who the Hell listens to NKOTB?

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)

432 The only thing I like about every futuristic space movie is they all have flying cars.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 04:03 PM (oOYbM)

433 *flummoxed*

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)

434 Enough people listen to NKOTB to have a cruise devoted to them, anyways.

Same with Rick Springfield.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:03 PM (XiVKO)

435 I'm here to protest against the horrible treatment the Empire shows towards African-Americans by keeping them from being Storm Troopers!!!



**someone whispers in his ear: There is no Africa or America in a galaxy far, far away**



THERE IS NO AFRICA IN A GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY!?!?



Posted by: Rev. Al "Not So" Sharpton at October 20, 2015 04:04 PM (lqmAz)

436 they all have flying cars.

====


Nuh-uh! I, Robot dint have no flyin carbots

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:04 PM (3ZtZW)

437 431 I mean, who the Hell listens to NKOTB?
Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:03 PM (3ZtZW)

40 to 50 year old women.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 04:04 PM (oOYbM)

438 Benghazi Committee @HouseBenghazi

#BREAKING: The State Dept *just* delivered nearly 1,300 printed pages of new emails from Ambassador Chris Stevens. #Benghazi

1:12 PM - 20 Oct 2015

Posted by: Ken Starr at October 20, 2015 04:05 PM (e8kgV)

439 I wonder when time get even more interesting with everything aflame, if that will quell the incessant whining of the SJW's or will they go into full tantrum phase as my children would do around 4pm every day?

Posted by: Cheri at October 20, 2015 04:05 PM (oiNtH)

440
Clockmed can be a recurring character in the new SWs as the lovable, but socially and mentally challenged dweeb who is constantly fucking with the rebels' ships and rendering them inoperative.

After each cockup, one of the rebels clucks Clockmed under the chin while saying, "You may be a fuzzy-wuzzy muzzie fuckup, but you're our fuzzy-wuzzy muzzie fuckup!"

Think Batman stealing the Aluminum Falcon's hyperdrive in The Lego Movie.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2015 04:05 PM (VLTL9)

441 Printed emails: the epitome of transparent government.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:05 PM (XiVKO)

442 The reason I think this is a troll is because any real SW fan knows that shortly after taking total power, Palpatine outlawed cloning. Most of the 501st, the largest legion of clone troopers and Vader's personal contingent of troops, was on the first Death Star when it blew. Through attrition the clones were whittled down in number and the Empire recruited normal humans to fill in as troopers.

The Empire was racist, but only to non humans/non humanoid life forms. So there is no reason why the Empire would forbid dark skinned people from joining.

Posted by: Floydian71 at October 20, 2015 04:06 PM (0jqpK)

443 >>> 40 to 50 year old women.


No shit? All on a cruise? um....

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:06 PM (3ZtZW)

444 Don't forget about me!

Posted by: Watto the space Jew at October 20, 2015 03:56 PM (lnemt)


Ha ha ha
Sorry about that.I probably missed some other outrage too.

Posted by: gwelf at October 20, 2015 04:06 PM (TJ8HB)

445
North
Korea
Off
Track
Betting

I mean, what the hell ?

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 20, 2015 04:07 PM (mf2LM)

446 As a point of order, I think the Empire conscripted.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:07 PM (XiVKO)

447 422 Let me think:
1 Luke's plan to rescue Han from Jaaba makes no sense but they try to make it seem really clever. First Lando infiltrates as a guard. Then Luke gives Jabba the droids. Then Chewie's gonna get captured. Then Leia's gonna try to rescue Han (with Chewie in captivity) and get captured. Then Luke is going to browbeat Jabba, kill the rancor, and get sent to the Sarlac
2 Another Death Star is not a good plot device. It's lazy especially when the battle on Hoth was so creative and distinctive from what had come before. The repetition is annoying.
3 As mentioned above Luke's story is ultimately irrelevant to the resolution of the plot.
4 Ewoks. Too clumsy to be credible. Too commercially crass. Nuff said.
5 A victory without cost. That's a terrible message. The original outline of the plot had Han dying, Luke riding off into the sunset to rebuild the Jedi, and Leia being left alone to restore freedom. I think bittersweetness would have been preferable to a Teddy Bear picnic. And no, the death of Vader (the 2nd worst war criminal in Galactic history) doesn't fit that because he wasn't a hero until the very end.

Those are the complaints off the top of my head.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 04:07 PM (Ypc8j)

448 The Empire was racist, but only to non humans/non humanoid life forms. So there is no reason why the Empire would forbid dark skinned people from joining.

Just no fucking Irish.

Posted by: The Imperial Human Resources Department at October 20, 2015 04:07 PM (8ZskC)

449 Dear Ace,
The only people with real racial grievances are the ones footing the bill for the LBJ debacle...

Posted by: ACE Trackingking cookies co at October 20, 2015 04:07 PM (S1WrL)

450 Any truth to the rumor John Kerry was dispatched to Alderon to warn it's intransigent militarism would lead only to more violence?

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2015 04:08 PM (TxJGV)

451 421 Raiders of the Lost Arc was the same way, but that movie is still awesome.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 03:57 PM (XiVKO)

If only for the breakthrough scene where Indy shoots the sword wielding bad guy. It's what movie watchers had dreamed of since the invention of movies.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 20, 2015 04:08 PM (oOYbM)

452 Well, instead of geeking out again over this trailer, time to write. Create my own universe since I have two follow on stories to finish writing.

So please buy my book via Ace's AoS store link in the side-bar - Golden Isis.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2015 04:09 PM (e0Bua)

453 >>> Just no fucking Irish.


Space Micks would drink all the fuel and bitch about Thatcher all day

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:09 PM (3ZtZW)

454 If only for the breakthrough scene where Indy shoots the sword wielding bad guy. It's what movie watchers had dreamed of since the invention of movies.

The sword guy shot first.

Posted by: George Lucas at October 20, 2015 04:09 PM (8ZskC)

455 #44

That's nonsense. Actors work every day in theater with no more background than darkness. This was a horrible script and terrible direction.

Posted by: Epobirs at October 20, 2015 04:10 PM (IdCqF)

456 Benghazi Committee @HouseBenghazi

#BREAKING: The State Dept *just* delivered nearly 1,300 printed pages of new emails from Ambassador Chris Stevens. #Benghazi

1:12 PM - 20 Oct 2015


Posted by: Ken Starr at October 20, 2015 04:05 PM (e8kgV)
======================

So. Is the Obama Administration opening up a can of worms all over Ms. Hillary? Never released - now being released. Hmmm.

Posted by: grammie winger, how long Lord? at October 20, 2015 04:11 PM (dFi94)

457 425 Or he dies in the space battle while he's messing around with Luke because he's as arrogant as Tarkin and won't evacuate. Annihilating his Death Star and fleet would rob him of most of his power.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 04:11 PM (Ypc8j)

458 *smacks thread*

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:13 PM (3ZtZW)

459 *smacks thread*

Try moving the antennae around.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 20, 2015 04:14 PM (JtwS4)

460 gotchyerselfalittleproblemhere

hrmmm

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:14 PM (3ZtZW)

461 Hans' gonads never descended after being frozen in that carbonite.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2015 03:19 PM (YqcVw)

Would X-lax cure the carbonite backup Hans had?

Posted by: Killerdog at October 20, 2015 04:15 PM (tvdXm)

462 *smacks thread*

Doing a C3PO to the thread?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 20, 2015 04:15 PM (e0Bua)

463 Have you tried turning it off, then back on again?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:15 PM (XiVKO)

464 *smacks thread*

Try moving the antennae around.


You sure nobody pooped in the satellite dish?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 20, 2015 04:16 PM (9krrF)

465 @Brother

Well, I know what I'm doing this weekend.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:17 PM (XiVKO)

466 Too silly to check: Drudge says Hairy Reid endorses Paul Ryan for Speakership.

"Because he's really young looking, and that appeals to me"

Posted by: MTF at October 20, 2015 04:17 PM (TxJGV)

467
457 425 Or he dies in the space battle while he's messing around with Luke because he's as arrogant as Tarkin and won't evacuate. Annihilating his Death Star and fleet would rob him of most of his power.
Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 04:11 PM (Ypc8j)



But you don't know. You cannot guarantee the emperors death without Luke there. You can speculate that he is as arrogant as Tarkin but would he make the same mistake? Your claim is as valid as mine.

Posted by: Buzzion at October 20, 2015 04:17 PM (z/Ubi)

468 Have you tried turning it off, then back on again?

===

First thing I did!

swearsies

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:17 PM (3ZtZW)

469 I told George Lucas to include midoclorians in the movies.

When we were alone, I also told him make the ewoks gay.

Posted by: Joe "Paste Force" Biden at October 20, 2015 04:17 PM (d0wRk)

470
Well, there's landscape timbers and digging implements calling to me, so see y'all later.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 20, 2015 04:19 PM (VLTL9)

471 There's a tremor in the force, like a nood post suddenly cried out, then was extinguished...

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:19 PM (XiVKO)

472 midichlorians! You'd figure there'd be some sort of pee stick test for that

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:19 PM (3ZtZW)

473 To cheat a thread's death is the power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret.

And yes, I have cookies.

Posted by: Darth Sidious at October 20, 2015 04:19 PM (0NdlF)

474 There's a tremor in the force, like a nood post suddenly cried out, then was extinguished...


That was not the post you're looking for.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 20, 2015 04:20 PM (JtwS4)

475 Hairy Reed is endorsing Paul Ryan for speaker.

Posted by: maddogg at October 20, 2015 04:20 PM (xWW96)

476 There's a tremor in the force, like a nood post suddenly cried out, then was extinguished...


That was not the post you're looking for.

-----

That post had delusions of grandeur.

Posted by: SH at October 20, 2015 04:21 PM (gmeXX)

477 Why would you give up Ways and Means? That makes no sense.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:21 PM (XiVKO)

478 Apparently the little clock maker has strong jedi powers

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 20, 2015 04:21 PM (X+nFp)

479 467 He did arrogantly put himself in harm's way for this trap and did leak his location to the Bothans. He was certain of victory even as the X-wings were in the Death Star superstructure. Surviving doesn't change the fact that he'd lose his fleet and his Death Star and a legion of his soldiers. The rebels would have had an overwhelming advantage at that point.

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 04:21 PM (Ypc8j)

480 That thread still exists, in an alternate Ace universe.

Posted by: Ahmad, all grown up and still crazy at October 20, 2015 04:22 PM (TxJGV)

481 Clock Boy has Harry Potter's Invisibility Cloak?

Posted by: Ever at October 20, 2015 04:22 PM (QZdJj)

482 Why would you give up Ways and Means? That makes no sense.

--------

There is no reason for Ryan to take on the Speaker - unless he sees it as a true sense of duty, but even then I would demur. At least say it is only on an interim basis until the election.

Posted by: SH at October 20, 2015 04:22 PM (gmeXX)

483 Obama can keep dribbling out Hilary emails to Gowdy until Biden is up to speed - then indict her.

Posted by: Jean at October 20, 2015 04:23 PM (ztOda)

484 "He turned James T. Kirk into Just Another Mary Sue."

I suspect Kirk's womanizing was intended to appeal to Desi Arnez, who was one of the producers of the original Star Trek.

(What did you think "Desilu" stood for? DESI and LUcille.)

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 20, 2015 04:23 PM (Egm7b)

485 The look that's always on Ahmed's face makes me think he's five IQ points away from walking around with a snotty nose.

So no, you wouldn't get the smartest white person at school award.

If such a thing existed *shifty eyes*

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:24 PM (XiVKO)

486 94 79 Well,the first approved new universe tie in novel has multiple gay characters.
Posted by: steevy at October 20, 2015 02:33 PM (8HTq1)


The clones were ALL gay. One giant lemon party.

Posted by: wooga at October 20, 2015 04:25 PM (d0wRk)

487 It's not gay if you're banging yourself, I guess.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 20, 2015 04:26 PM (XiVKO)

488 "Which is why it's going to really hurt to boycott it (as I will). But
again, not for this stupid reason; just because ABC/Disney/Marvel/ESPN
is a very obnoxious and powerful leftist propaganda outfit."

And I'm certain they're going to miss your ten dollars enough to give a fig.

What happened to the Ace who argued passionately that conservatives need to be engaged in the culture in order to change minds? What happened to the Ace who argued passionately that politics shouldn't control culture, and that art should be enjoyed for art's sake? That's the Ace I agree with, not this impostor.

Go ahead and grump out about people enjoying **Star Wars** and wonder why we're cast as scolds.


Posted by: Rex at October 20, 2015 04:26 PM (L+5wE)

489 In a year clock boy is gonna be in his room with his "precious" and no more fame.

Psycho ward or suicide clock in his future for sure.

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at October 20, 2015 04:27 PM (X+nFp)

490
I endorsed Paul Ryan for Speaker of the House because he's our most trusted ally to complete amnesty and a bevy of other liberal programs.

Posted by: Hairy Reed, D-NV at October 20, 2015 04:27 PM (OiFtZ)

491 Nood Paul Ryan, 'ettes.

Posted by: TK421 at October 20, 2015 04:27 PM (1DH1V)

492 MSN is pushing this line as well.

"Fans react hilariously, inspirationally to racist call for film's boycott (video)"

Also
"11 big moments from the trailer to get excited about"

How can you find 11 big moments in the trailer to get excited about? How long is the trailer?


And looking on wikipedia, Boyega isn't the star. He's billed sixth after Ford, Hamill, Fisher, etc. Except for another AA woman, the cast is non-minority.

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 04:28 PM (E5UB0)

493 Those Twitter accounts are real pro-Trump accounts. They would be right at home here. I give Ace credit for not joining the boycott Star Wars crap.

Posted by: The Force Awakens at October 20, 2015 04:28 PM (UL/Aj)

494 " It's what movie watchers had dreamed of since the invention of movies. "


I've read that that scene with improved by Ford as sort of a joke. Not in the script, but, they liked it so much the put it in the movie.


Don't know for sure but good story nonetheless.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 20, 2015 04:29 PM (LA7Cm)

495 >>>After each cockup, one of the rebels clucks Clockmed under the chin while saying, "You may be a fuzzy-wuzzy muzzie fuckup, but you're our fuzzy-wuzzy muzzie fuckup!"


Wait... so Clockwok, or Clock Clock Binks?

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 04:29 PM (E5UB0)

496 What happened to the Ace who argued passionately that conservatives need to be engaged in the culture in order to change minds?

====


He was playing Batman all weekend! Cmon man, be reasonable!

Posted by: Bigby's Stigmata at October 20, 2015 04:29 PM (3ZtZW)

497 488
The organizers of the Boycott are white nationalists. Conservatives backing them would feed into the Left's narrative of being racists.

Posted by: The Force Awakens at October 20, 2015 04:30 PM (UL/Aj)

498 Willowed!

Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 20, 2015 04:30 PM (E5UB0)

499 after a few seconds thought, I have concluded that I really don't care about the possible racial implications of a reboot of a juvenile SF movie of 30 years ago beat suited for 10 year olds. That is all.

Posted by: azjaeger at October 20, 2015 04:31 PM (thKI+)

500 492
Conservatives are going down a very nasty road if they support this boycott.

Posted by: The Force Awakens at October 20, 2015 04:31 PM (UL/Aj)

501 What happened to the Ace who argued passionately that conservatives need to be engaged in the culture in order to change minds?

Consuming entertainment does not make you "engaged".

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 04:31 PM (0NdlF)

502 after a few seconds thought, I have concluded that I really don't care about the possible racial implications of a reboot of a juvenile SF movie of 30 years ago best suited for 10 year olds. That is all.

Posted by: azjaeger at October 20, 2015 04:31 PM (thKI+)

503 499
There is no racial angle to this. It is an invented controversy by a bunch of loser Trump fans.

Posted by: The Force Awakens at October 20, 2015 04:32 PM (UL/Aj)

504 Not watching the newest Star Wars movie makes you RAYCISS.

You don't want to be rayciss, do you?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 20, 2015 04:32 PM (0NdlF)

505 remember reading an essay years ago putting forth the argument that the Empire was actually more beneficial for the average galactic citizen than the chaotic and anarchic rebels. It argued that the post-imperial era would be very messy and bloody indeed. I wish I could find it again.

Published in the Weekly Standard, IIRC. I think I still have that one printed out somewhere....

It also made a pretty good argument that the if you don't just assume that the Rebels are always 100 percent honest all the time then a lot of the supposed wickedness of the Empire just isn't provable.

Posted by: Grey Fox at October 20, 2015 04:38 PM (bZ7mE)

506 I m not a neo-confederate, or whatever slur Ace etc want to call me. I am sick of a certain diverse agenda/propaganda being shoved at me everywhere. I am sick of the white males being tossed aside for everyone else. Call me what you want, but it is tiresome.

Posted by: Baldy at October 20, 2015 04:41 PM (sEXjW)

507 479 467 He did arrogantly put himself in harm's way for this trap and did leak his location to the Bothans. He was certain of victory even as the X-wings were in the Death Star superstructure. Surviving doesn't change the fact that he'd lose his fleet and his Death Star and a legion of his soldiers. The rebels would have had an overwhelming advantage at that point.
Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 04:21 PM (Ypc8j)



The shield didn't collapse until after the Emperor was dead. The Executor wasn't destroyed until after the Emperor was dead. The rebels were also suffering heavy casualties.


I'll also say that without Luke, the Shield generator wouldn't have been brought down and the ewoks would know what deep fried Wookiee tastes like.

Posted by: buzzion at October 20, 2015 04:42 PM (z/Ubi)

508 I really don't care what color stormtroopers are.

The Star Wars franchise lost me with the abomination that is Episode I.

It bothers me greatly that we Americans are so totally fixated on who is aggrieved about which real or imagined slight based on race.

I don't care what race people are, who their parents are, etc.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 20, 2015 04:45 PM (/Ho8c)

509 After watching JJ Abrams destroy the Star Trek universe I have no enthusiasm at all for watching him play in the ruined landscape that George Lucas created. Pass.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 20, 2015 04:46 PM (B8JRQ)

510 The Dark Side.. the Jedi.... The Ewoks. And oh yeah that christmas special. It was real. Ugh. Going to go change my Depends now, kid.

Posted by: Brian at October 20, 2015 04:49 PM (WbLYr)

511 507 479 467
Luke's story on the Death Star was ultimately pointless, not what he did on Endor. Unless you think the Emperor had "Battle Meditation" and could control the course of the battle with his thoughts, what was going on in his throne room had nothing to do with the battle in space or on the planet. Once his fleet was obliterated, how would the Emperor have escaped in his defenseless shuttle now that the rebels had air supremacy?

Posted by: Naes at October 20, 2015 04:50 PM (Ypc8j)

512 "I see zero actual outrage at black stormtrooper, but lots of outrage that someone else was allegedly outraged...."

I'm having trouble following the outrage trail here and which is real, which is faked and which is imagined. A diagram would be helpful.

Posted by: George Orwell de Leon at October 20, 2015 04:52 PM (1BQGO)

513
Anyway, about that trailer: Looks good. All the trailers have looked good.


Which is why it's going to really hurt to boycott it (as I will). But
again, not for this stupid reason; just because ABC/Disney/Marvel/ESPN
is a very obnoxious and powerful leftist propaganda outfit.
I dunno, at this point my only interest in new Star Wars content is seeing what the Red Letter Media guys do with it. Based on my (limited) experience with Abrams work, it will be very middle of the road: competent (unlike the prequels), but thoroughly unremarkable and forgettable. Which is unfortunate, because I would have a lot more fun complaining about another embarrassing, incompetent Star Wars movie than watching a "good enough" Star Wars movie. The visuals in the trailers look pretty, but from what little of the story they give us, it sounds like it's just red sword guys making trouble again, and needing to be stopped by blue sword guys.

There's been almost 40 years of prolifically produced creative content using the Star Wars license across pretty much every medium of entertainment, and the original trilogy is still the only part of it that is of noteworthy quality. Not terribly confident about Abrams changing that.

Posted by: reform highlander at October 20, 2015 05:10 PM (xf3KI)

514 There's been almost 40 years of prolifically
produced creative content using the Star Wars license across pretty much
every medium of entertainment, and the original trilogy is still the
only part of it that is of noteworthy quality. Not terribly confident
about Abrams changing that.


Posted by: reform highlander


Very well stated.

Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 20, 2015 05:15 PM (/Ho8c)

515 My high school students have already said they won't be at school on Dec 18, as they will either be at the midnight showing the night before, or will go sometime during the day on the 18th. Doesn't sound like they see any racial bias, either.

Posted by: SoCalMike at October 20, 2015 05:21 PM (1mIjs)

516 This racial outrage angle requires a person who:

1) Is sufficiently invested in Star Wars to complain about their casting choices
2) Is cognitively at peace with the fact that Samuel L Jackson was on the Jedi high console, and Billy Dee Williams blew up the second Death Star and put some moves on Princess Leia
3) Is unaware of or at peace with the fact that George Lucas is married to and has had a child with a black woman (Mellody Hobson), provided massive donations to the MLK Jr. national memorial, and has made a movie about the Tuskegee Airmen, the lackluster box office of which he blamed on racism
4) In spite of prior points, considers the Star Wars franchise to require its racial purity defended

There's a lot of crazy people out there, granted, but I'm a put my money on this not being a guy who exists. And if he does, he's what the social justice kids might call neuro-atypical.

Incidentally, the Empire were modeled after the Nazis, so you could make the artistic argument that there's a reason for them not to be a multicultural hodgepodge coalition. Not that it really matters what anybody does with the franchise, at this point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xJqkzngBIt=35s

Posted by: reform highlander at October 20, 2015 05:38 PM (xf3KI)

517 Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 20, 2015 05:15 PM (/Ho8c)

Thanks.

The Red Letter Media guys made an interesting point about the Aliens franchise, which I think is applies here. They noted that all the cool things the aliens do were surprises in the first movie, and that's a big part of what made them cool. The sequels just iterate on those cool ideas, maybe in different contexts, but they aren't surprises at that point, they're just things that you remember liking. The really compelling stuff is novel and surprising creativity, but once a franchise has done that, you've bought in, in your mind, that you like the franchise. So they can keep pumping out sequels that imitate those superficial elements of the franchise, but don't bother with the innovation and novelty. Which, to me at least, explains the bad sequel phenomenon.

Posted by: reform highlander at October 20, 2015 05:57 PM (xf3KI)

518 Aren't Storm Troopers bad guys? Shouldn't blacks be offended that one of the baddies is black? Shouldn't all baddies be white, anyway?

Posted by: Aslan's Girl at October 20, 2015 06:13 PM (xetep)

519 It is not the Imperial Remnent...thats a Expanded Universe (EU) term. The EU is considered non-canon now until being explictly referred to. What is in the film is called The First Order.

Posted by: redchief at October 20, 2015 06:26 PM (yuR+/)

520 same shit different day
I gotta laugh at anyone paying to see this crap.

Posted by: common sense at October 20, 2015 06:34 PM (LPHFE)

521 If I was Palpatine, my first act as Emperor would be to form an army that was not GENETICALLY PROGRAMMED FOR TREASON!!!!

Posted by: jd at October 20, 2015 06:37 PM (VnJQY)

522 I hope Grand Moff Putin leads the Empire to victory.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at October 20, 2015 07:24 PM (hL1jD)

523 As someone who keeps an eye on this stuff, I can confirm that you're close in your assessment that it was a hoax, but it was actually 4chan's "cousin" 8chan, which 4chan is even too SJW for. 8chan's /pol/ board was behind it, mostly for the trolling lulz.

Posted by: tipsterhipster at October 20, 2015 10:53 PM (X+hsU)

524 You know what? The imaginary nonexistent strawman racists have a point. Abrams has created a movie in which the only white men are either the villains or an aged mentor (Solo, of course). Heroism is now the preserve of "kickass grrrlz" and bland black guys.

Because slavery, or something.

It is racism at work. Let's not kid ourselves. Let's not buy into that bullshit about "the need for diversity" or any of that liberal excuse-mongering. The most popular movie franchise in history is now required to have a black guy and a woman as the main heroes because liberals hate white men. They are racists and sexists. Period. They can dress it up in whatever pseudoacademic jargon they want, but once you cut through the bodyguard of lies, the truth is impossible to ignore.

From now on, white men can only be villains and comic fools. My son will grow up seeing characters who look just like him being laughed at and punished.

Over and over. That's how they do it. Over and over and over. Forcing it into every crevice of existence. Hate men. Hate white skin. Hate heterosexuals. The white men who built our civilization and our nation were villains. Hate them. Only women and dark people can be good and wise.

Does this sound like hate speech? Of course it sounds like hate speech. Dissent is defined as hate speech.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 20, 2015 11:03 PM (AOCjz)

525 "That was never even hinted at (as George Lucas hadn't made up this stupid idea yet)"

Really?

"Aren't you a little short for a Storm Trooper?"

Posted by: nosuchthingasworstcasescenario at October 20, 2015 11:42 PM (ee11p)

526 Did you ever notice that in the original Star Wars films all the imperial solders and officers were white human males?

Posted by: deepred at October 21, 2015 12:09 AM (xv5cf)

527 I don't think whites on the internet are upset because there is a black stormtrooper. I think they're upset because this lightsaber-wielding Finn character looks to be set up as the new "chosen one" in this trilogy. I think some people are fed up with the forced narrative being constantly fed to us in commercials, TV shows, and movies that black people are the Wisest, Bravest Heroes with the white men who flail around them mere buffoons.

Posted by: chance at October 21, 2015 09:24 AM (w/p7Z)

528 Putting on the nerd hat.... In addition every real star wars fan know that by the Imperial period the Stormtroopers were clones not only of Jango Fett but of other people too, as well as at least some units having conscripts mixed in as well. Nevermind the fact that star Wars good guys have a habit of disguising themselves in imperial armor as warranted by the situation. Setting down the nerd hat..... so yeah, I imagine is manufactured outrage to undermine one more of the good bits of western culture.

Posted by: JoshO at October 21, 2015 10:54 AM (s79uE)

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