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Hillary Clinton: Hey, We Should Be Willing to Consider Australia's Mandatory Mass Gun Confiscation Program
More: When will Hillary be turning over her own guns?
Clinton was asked at a New Hampshire town hall whether she thought an Australian-style policy could be implemented in the U.S. "Recently, Australia managed to get away, or take away tens of thousands, millions of handguns. In one year, they were all gone. Can we do that? If we can’t, why can’t we?" A New Hampshire man asked Clinton. "I think that’s worth considering. I do not know enough detail to tell you how we would do it, or how would it work, but certainly your example is worth looking at," Clinton said.
BOOM =>Matt Drudge Dares Obama and Hillary to Surrender THEIR Guns http://t.co/w3HMlutw9P
— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) October 7, 2015Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 05:25 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:26 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: brian at October 16, 2015 05:26 PM (yN+Hh)
Posted by: CozMark at October 16, 2015 05:26 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:26 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 05:27 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Bubba at October 16, 2015 05:27 PM (egezu)
Posted by: CozMark at October 16, 2015 05:27 PM (CbGSW)
(they never got all the weapons, they never do. we are law abiding, but not stupid.
Posted by: talgus at October 16, 2015 05:27 PM (UX1lw)
Posted by: Ronster at October 16, 2015 05:27 PM (0qASP)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 05:27 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: FU Hillary, Australian for FU Hillary at October 16, 2015 05:28 PM (lqmAz)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:28 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 16, 2015 05:28 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 05:28 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2015 05:28 PM (JmGFJ)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 05:29 PM (iQIUe)
California already did this, and my sister handed a gun in. But, then she ran out and bought a newer one.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:29 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 16, 2015 05:29 PM (zyIlW)
For God's sake, someone change "pouring" to "poring". Yes, I'm a grammar Nazi. Do it.
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:29 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Who Knows at October 16, 2015 05:29 PM (W+Itt)
Why should I give up my weapons when clearly you are surrounded and protected by them yourself. Who will protect/defend me and my loved ones? What makes your life more important than mine? Because of a job title? HA! Tell that to the next victim of a home invasion shot and bleeding out because, while once they were armed, they were unable to defend themselves because of our dear elected/appointed leaders took them away.
Leaders lead - so you drop all of your armed guards first. Otherwise GFYS. I'm keeping mine.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:29 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (qCMvj)
She's not actually taking guns away. She's giving you money for them.
IT'S A REVERSE TAX!
Posted by: Justice John Roberts, Man of Principle at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (8ZskC)
Yeah, I don't think hillary understands the American psyche on this.
But go ahead and try it bitch.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (ODxAs)
Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (DL2i+)
She couldn't be more clear.
And everyone scoffed when we said it would come to this.
Posted by: Who Knows
How did it come to this?
Posted by: Lord Cornwallis at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: Lea at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (vmMMi)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, well-fed artist at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (RwwCT)
Good times.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (awspb)
But does this really merit the flaming skull? Just Hillary shooting off her mouth. Maybe the guy was a plant to expose what she is willing to do (which is good).
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Mr. Healthy Penis at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (LYCUN)
We see Boehner and Co and how they gave in and gave up and weeped. Spineless cowards.
If you actually fight, you can win.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Ever at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (QZdJj)
Posted by: navybrat at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (ETxiG)
Something is screwy with her brain, if she has one.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (sI4OA)
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 16, 2015 05:32 PM (BHl9S)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:32 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:32 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 16, 2015 05:33 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 05:33 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 05:31 PM (sI4OA)
It's called trolling/polling the base. She needs her base. This is her base.
The GOP hasn't a clue what that even means.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:33 PM (qCMvj)
I trust you personally will be knocking on doors asking for our weapons? Seeing that you and I are both from NH?
When I open the door I will throw a 12 gauge round at you and tell you to get off my property you are trespassing and I feel my life is threatened and never ever return because the 2nd round thrown at you is going to MUCH faster.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:33 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Sir Hillary Edmund Rodham Clinton at October 16, 2015 05:33 PM (8ZskC)
It is a source of lasting shame to me that an otherwise excellent conservative Prime Minister was responsible for this confiscation travesty. He unashamedly said that he saw no reason why anyone in this country needed to own a gun and he set about making sure as few people as possible did.
Handguns of ANY kind are basically illegal now for any reason, except for the police and private security personnel. Semi-automatic weapons are also illegal for pretty much everyone. Gun ownership has been reduced to sporting shotguns and bolt action rifles and the conditions for owning even them are onerous.
Posted by: Mr Black at October 16, 2015 05:33 PM (+vHE0)
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 16, 2015 05:33 PM (iIzG7)
Pander. Pander. Flip-flop. And that's what the Hillary Hokey Pokey is all about.
Posted by: CozMark at October 16, 2015 05:26 PM (CbGSW)
.....................
You know what would solve this problem? More comfortable shoes.
Posted by: Hillary!s feet at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Bruce Boehner
Also less likely to raise a fuss when a Healthcare Resource Panel tells them that a loved one doesn't warrant the funds to treat.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (awspb)
Posted by: Democratic Super-Delegate at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (2lndx)
Sort of like what they do with us and abortion, making sure we talk about rape and the life of the mother, etc.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (hUjwy)
I don't think so. She knows that every one of these positions is going to come back to bite her in her capacious ass in the general, she just doesn't know what else to do because she's terrified of a leftward flanking maneuver. I say the more extreme the better.
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (LAe3v)
Much easier for a bunch of gummint drones to suppress the population.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 05:35 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 05:35 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (Fv3UZ)
he's been slamming on the megyn kelly again on twitter -- and why not?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:35 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 05:36 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (LAe3v)
this isn't extreme for her base - the voters she will get
remember, most leftards think JEF hasn't gone far left enough? they want Venezuela
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:36 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 16, 2015 05:32 PM (BHl9S)
Don't forget confiscating magazines.
Coming from Gavin "I can break any fucking law I want, peasant" Newsom.
It will be shot down by the courts (for the, what, 37th time?), but even more productive people will flee California, and if they start the confiscation before the courts get to it, A) people will die, which will make EVERYTHING worse and B) there probably won't be a recourse.
I could see the crazy fantasy of splitting the state becoming more realistic, or just horribly angry and miserable politics for the foreseeable future.
Given that it's an initiative, it will probably fail, despite the fact that they're basically giving illegals the vote.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 16, 2015 05:36 PM (bLnSU)
Normally, you'd need to visit a sanitarium to find so many people who hold two totally opposite views at the same time. DC seems full of them.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 05:36 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Yo! at October 16, 2015 05:36 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 05:36 PM (evdj2)
btw, I have a feeling there are plenty of handguns in Australia squirreled away in a nice place in many many homes.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2015 05:37 PM (ODxAs)
Can we do that? If we can't, why can't we?"
...................
If we can't we can't.
You may rephrase the question and try again, idiot.
Posted by: wth at October 16, 2015 05:37 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Hillary!s feet at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (wAQA5)
she looks more and more like Mao every day
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:37 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (GERXL)
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (DlmoZ)
She has to.
Posted by: Cicero
It's going to be very difficult, gun owners don't forget.
They really are waking up a sleeping giant on this issue, especially when you start dabbling in confiscation talk.
It's one thing if you want to talk about clip size and other window dressing, but the Left is really feeling like they've got control of this country and are starting to go full retard.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (hUjwy)
And the only way to confiscate all guns would be a house to house search. The bits in the Constitution about due process of law and warrantless searches mean nothing to the libs. God help us if we get a Pres who gives us 5 or 6 Sup Ct justices who are progressives.
Posted by: mallfly the unvertible at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Zombie Mao at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (awspb)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Liberal Logic at October 16, 2015 05:39 PM (fMQoG)
remember, most leftards think JEF hasn't gone far left enough? they want Venezuela
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
True, but that's only a fraction of what's needed to win the general. She'll get them, and truly alienate the much larger fraction that wants to keep their guns.
Also, I'd be willing to bet that a significant % of the folks hooting the loudest for "gun control" don't really want it to happen, they just don't want to endanger their virtue signaling status.
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:39 PM (LAe3v)
The people will get it, and it's a two-fer.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:39 PM (qCMvj)
Clockboy has been traveling, in Sudan, among other places.
He is expected to be a guest at the White House this weekend...
Posted by: Colin at October 16, 2015 05:39 PM (Espnc)
We'll just shank ya in the yard, or put a spider in ya boot if we're lookin' ta kill ya.
Posted by: Australia at October 16, 2015 05:39 PM (lqmAz)
Posted by: wth at October 16, 2015 05:40 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Spiro Keet at October 16, 2015 05:40 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Mr Black
*bzzz, bzzz, bzzz DING!*
Posted by: desktop CAD/CAM at October 16, 2015 05:40 PM (JmGFJ)
They really are waking up a sleeping giant on this issue, especially when you start dabbling in confiscation talk.
It's one thing if you want to talk about clip size and other window dressing, but the Left is really feeling like they've got control of this country and are starting to go full retard.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (hUjwy)
The bitch is not getting the gun vote anyway.. It's a safe veer left for her.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2015 05:40 PM (DUoqb)
In fairness though, a good bolt action rifle can get you a nice select fire weapon in no time flat.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Word.
Posted by: 15M dead 1914-1918 at October 16, 2015 05:40 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 16, 2015 05:40 PM (Nj2wY)
Which can only mean she is planning to use a blue one.
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2015 05:40 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: mallfly the unvertible at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (qSIlh)
He is expected to be a guest at the White House this weekend...
Posted by: Colin
I just flew in from Sudan and boy is my anus tired.
Posted by: Ahmed the Inventor at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (awspb)
Megyn Kelly is a media whore.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:38 PM (Fv3UZ)
yep
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Dai Wei at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (JxC99)
So if Clinton is proposing a gun ban, it's a good thing for gun rights.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (9Fc79)
I believe the reports are that 60-80% of guns in AU were not turned in.
They're in the rosy period of pretense that their policies were effective. Yet they forget things like jihadis taking hostages at gunpoint in downtown Sydney just last year.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (oVJmc)
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In fairness though, a good bolt action rifle can get you a nice select fire weapon in no time flat.
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Word.
Posted by: 15M dead 1914-1918
Yeah, yeah, artillery and machine guns. blah blah blah
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:41 PM (LAe3v)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 05:42 PM (D/1P4)
In other news, Sudan now has its first clock.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 05:42 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2015 05:42 PM (2Ocf1)
Gavin newsom is proposing a ballot initiative in CA for background checks for ammo.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 16, 2015 05:32 PM (BHl9S)
Newsom is a bitter, angry piece of shit, and the fucking epitome of "Entitled."
Posted by: Liberal Logic at October 16, 2015 05:43 PM (fMQoG)
By the way what's the chance that question was purposely planted? I bet high in that state.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2015 05:43 PM (cp4sg)
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 16, 2015 05:43 PM (fMQoG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup
______________
You'd be amazed how many gun owning, blue collar male votes Democrats still get. Esopecially in the Midwest. Think Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.
I'll grant you it's not what it once was, but I know a lot of apolitical people that suddenly get very political when it comes to guns.
I think it's a bigger segment of voters than most people think, especially liberal opinion makers that live in coastal, urban enclaves.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 05:43 PM (hUjwy)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2015 05:43 PM (9Fc79)
I'm thinking it would have to have terms like "armored columns", "large-scale mobilization", "divisions", and "patient counterinsurgency".
Posted by: That Guy at October 16, 2015 05:43 PM (UKhBB)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 05:44 PM (rCGpC)
It will be very nice meeting the president of the United States, who wishes he could do the same.
Posted by: Ahmed The Clock Kid at October 16, 2015 05:44 PM (LYCUN)
Did not know that Australia has legalized prostitution until just recently.
Gee, our MSM has been prostituting themselves for years now. As well as the political class.
Yet us common folks are always the one getting screwed.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:44 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 16, 2015 05:44 PM (Xa4vS)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 16, 2015 05:44 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Janet Reno at October 16, 2015 05:45 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Old Blue at October 16, 2015 05:45 PM (9iR5/)
This is a "knife".
**pulls out .45**
(everyone looks confused)
**shrugs shoulders**
(everyone laughs)
Posted by: Crocodile Dundee at October 16, 2015 05:45 PM (lqmAz)
Posted by: Zombie Winston Smith at October 16, 2015 05:45 PM (k8tEg)
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 16, 2015 05:45 PM (fMQoG)
More popcorn please.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (sI4OA)
Are they prepared to go full Grozny? If not, they shouldn't start nothin'.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (evdj2)
By the way what's the chance that question was purposely planted? I bet high in that state.
As purple as NH is, there still is a very strong pro-2nd amendment population.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Garrett at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (Ni2Ez)
Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (uvPCb)
Posted by: Bloat at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (rHaCi)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (A9KzJ)
Think of that pic of Obama taking a shot with a shotgun. That kind of life long hunter.
Posted by: mallfly the unvertible at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: YTown Guy at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (das+y)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (cp4sg)
Well, I loves me knife mate, but I'd love me a bloody shotgun, too.
Posted by: Crocodile Dundee at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (wAQA5)
Who's gonna go rounding up the guns?
Posted by: SMFH
Who will go more than once?
^^^^^^^^^^^^
This
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:47 PM (DlmoZ)
Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2015 05:47 PM (3tjn4)
"The United States is deeply concerned about Iran's recent ballistic missile launch," US Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power said in a statement.
The inks not even dry. Sigh
Talk about gun control
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2015 05:47 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Garrett at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (Ni2Ez)
He doesn't have the discrimination to be a connoisseur.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 05:47 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2015 05:47 PM (a31sM)
Posted by: Killerdog at October 16, 2015 05:48 PM (G4qiT)
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 16, 2015 05:48 PM (fMQoG)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 16, 2015 05:48 PM (zyIlW)
Hillary Clinton calls someone Damn Jew bastard - She runs for President supported with millions of dollars from Hollywood.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 05:48 PM (D/1P4)
2. Visit White House.
3. President Obama gets to apologize for the kid getting "mistreated" by the Secret Service?
When I saw that news, I assumed he'd already visited the White House. If the Secret Service still cares about their job, there have to be some question marks floating around about what precautions to take.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 16, 2015 05:48 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Real Everyday American at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (YFFpo)
Posted by: Marcus T
Are you saying she isn't really a blond? A drapes don't match the rug kinda deal?
Posted by: Aviator at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Garrett at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (Ni2Ez)
Continue...We're intrigued. ..
Posted by: Penthouse Letters at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (sI4OA)
A 6'-1' 240 male cannot be sure he can rob an eighty-year-old grandmother when she could possibly pull a cheap Derringer and poke two pencil-sized holes through his fragile, meat-bag, of a body. It's just not worth the risk for $10, a bundle of coupons, and some "Worther's Original" candies.
And in Great Britain criminals will burgle people's homes while they are still in them! In the US that is to court death.
Posted by: Warthog at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (/9qEC)
Of course the cartels make their money of Americans mostly ... via drugs or something illegal. That will be more difficult as we descend into chaos and anarchy. Government will confiscate guns, then everything else. Buying off or threatening the government forces will be the only choice to slavery.
Guess I need to read up on dystopian future literature, for the various scenarios ... or pray for Trump to be change we can believe in.
Posted by: Illiniwek at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (dyyN5)
I know people who went to college and law school with Megyn Kelly. She ain't what she pretends to be.
Posted by: Marcus T
.............................
Any of them ever give her the warped shplib? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: warped shplib at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (wAQA5)
Hopefully moot considering the unConstitutionality of it.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (Xa4vS)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (gyKtp)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2015 05:50 PM (uvPCb)
Liberal logic is always self-fulfilling in reverse.
Posted by: mallfly the unvertible at October 16, 2015 05:50 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Grad School Fool
If I had one I'd give it to you.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2015 05:50 PM (9Fc79)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 16, 2015 05:50 PM (7ln+i)
Posted by: GBruno at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (u49WF)
Not sure how far she wants to keep going with this as it most likely will cost her the election if she keeps it up and her people are surely telling her that.
My fear is the Left may one day try to go a bridge too far and the results will be less than pleasant for the Country.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (iONHu)
I wonder how much of the "Come and take it" is just talk and how far people are actually willing to go to retain their guns?
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (Xa4vS)
Ask the Katrina victims in New Orleans. They quickly complied with the order to turn over their weapons.
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (fMQoG)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (PMlgt)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 05:29 PM (iQIUe)
As I understand it, they didn't really.
"Officially" yes, they turned over most of their guns.
But unofficially, the program was a huge failure and the government was too scared to go door to door.
Britain, OTOH, never really had a huge history of private gun ownership like Canada, Australia, the US and other "frontier" countries.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (AkOaV)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (cp4sg)
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And not that hawt either. As much as I try I just can't find her attractive.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (0LHZx)
See.
Posted by: blaster at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (2Ocf1)
Posted by: Carol at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (sj3Ax)
____________________
If they come to my neighborhood, it'll be a lot more than a few.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (a31sM)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 05:52 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: rrpjr at October 16, 2015 05:52 PM (s/yC1)
For those of us that live alone, easier to consider as opposed to those with spouses and kids in the home.
Hopefully moot, as you said.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 16, 2015 05:52 PM (zyIlW)
Posted by: Real Everyday American at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (YFFpo)
............................
Don't tell me. You live in Vermont, right? Near Brattleboro?
Posted by: 1-800-PSYCHIC at October 16, 2015 05:52 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 05:52 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:52 PM (Fv3UZ)
I wonder how much of the "Come and take it" is just talk and how far people are actually willing to go to retain their guns?
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 16, 2015 05:49 PM (Xa4vS)
Ask the Katrina victims in New Orleans. They quickly complied with the order to turn over their weapons.
Posted by: kathysaysso at October 16, 2015 05:51 PM (fMQoG)
__________
The calculus is this
a) I turn in my gun, get $200 and go on with my life
b) I fight a battle I can't win, I end up in jail or dead
Very few people will choose b.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 05:53 PM (0LHZx)
How many agents will just quit?
What happens if the neighbors decide to join in?
Posted by: Yo! at October 16, 2015 05:53 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: maddogg at October 16, 2015 05:53 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2015 05:53 PM (DUoqb)
I wonder how much of the "Come and take it" is just talk and how far people are actually willing to go to retain their guns?
Hopefully moot considering the unConstitutionality of it.
Well if you are any of the GOPe - you'll cry and beg, then roll over like Boehner and McConnell like the bitches they are
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:53 PM (DlmoZ)
Now GFY Hillary.
I'll give up my guns when your security detail gives up theirs.
Deal?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 05:53 PM (Xo1Rt)
That's the problem, I don't want one either. I don't think anyone really wants one. Gonna have to dig a BIG landfill.
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 05:54 PM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: rrpjr at October 16, 2015 05:54 PM (s/yC1)
While I am sure that there is some false bravado among some of those who have publicly stated that, people will damn fool things just because someone else heard them say it.
I would wager that the Death before Dishonor crowd out number the false bravado crowd 100-1.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 05:54 PM (kLrYQ)
Posted by: Yo! at October 16, 2015 05:54 PM (GwIKd)
Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 16, 2015 05:54 PM (zyIlW)
3 hours until Gold Rush season premiere.
Yay! or Nay?
I'm kinda getting sick of these idiots turn over millions of cubic yards of soil just to sift out 10 pounds of gold...in tiny flakes.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:54 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: makes sense at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (iFINY)
Posted by: Old Blue at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (9iR5/)
Some did not all. Those that did had their minds clouded by the circumstances believing it was required.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (D/1P4)
We do and short of repeal, which will never happen, any attempt at confiscation would rightfully lead to some level of insurrection. When government no longer obeys law and Constituion they cease being legitamate.
Liberals don't think it will come to that. It's why they push the legal overreach, autocratic envelope. They should read about how that worked out in history for a clue regarding how this ends
They should fear the day someone with converse beliefs owns the monster they've created.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (cp4sg)
Ask the Katrina victims in New Orleans. They quickly complied with the order to turn over their weapons.
OK, now lets try it in Texas.
Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (DlmoZ)
She laughed today at question of FBI investigation.
Clinton's not afraid.
http://freebeacon.com/hillary-laugh-button/
Posted by: Colin at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (Espnc)
.
.
.No it's not. If she keeps on with this it will cost her Ohio and PA both.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (iONHu)
If they get their way, the'll just pass so many laws, require licenses, registrations etc to the point where 95% of gun owners are criminals and it's something we'll have to hide under our bed and if we ever defend ourselves from a break in, we'll be made examples of.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (hUjwy)
Inner city democrats who were too dumb to leave.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 05:56 PM (GERXL)
Posted by: Lauren at October 16, 2015 05:56 PM (3VDyI)
I'm sure this will go over especially well with the people who scream when they see a rat in a subway station.
Posted by: mallfly the unvertible at October 16, 2015 05:56 PM (qSIlh)
This.
How many will quit when this really could be the last shift they ever work?
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 05:56 PM (kLrYQ)
They just have no idea how it will end. They own the cities.
Who owns the countryside?
Who has most of the current and former military?
Is Manhattan and NYC an asset or a liability?
Posted by: rd at October 16, 2015 05:56 PM (SukjU)
Posted by: Carol at October 16, 2015 05:56 PM (sj3Ax)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (Kucy5)
Posted by: Northernlurker at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (tMrac)
a) I turn in my gun, get $200 and go on with my life
b) I fight a battle I can't win, I end up in jail or dead
Very few people will choose b.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 05:53 PM (0LHZx)
I agree.
And it won't start off as "house to house raids".
It doesn't have to.
1) buy backs
2) make it more difficult to buy ammo
3) slowly outlaw certain types of guns, grandfathering in the existing ones
4) make all "private transactions" go through an FFL so the current "grandfathered" guns can never legally be transferred
etc. etc. etc.
There's no reason to go door to door. Think of the frog in the boiling water story.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (AkOaV)
She was just agreeing that guns would voluntarily be turned in and the Gov would hand you a small percentage of what it's worth back.
All of this molon labe, come and take it, keyboard warrior bravado every time a progtard spews out something stupid and infeasible is beyond tedious.
Posted by: CozMark at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (CbGSW)
You say turn left at Pennsylvania?
Posted by: Hordes of Pre-Democrat Amnesty Seekers at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (k8tEg)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (Nj2wY)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (D/1P4)
This.
How many will quit when this really could be the last shift they ever work?
Or they come home to an empty house?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (rCGpC)
Let's be honest with ourselves: 3/4'rs of all gun owners won't do jack shit if Government took away their guns.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 05:56 PM (GERXL)
Your in NJ right... You can own a gun...It takes some time, but getting a gun permit is not impossible at all. Now a carry permit in NJ....Yeah that's damn near impossible
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (DUoqb)
Posted by: Hepcat at October 16, 2015 05:58 PM (IeR2g)
The recent registration laws in CT and NY had a less than 10% success rate.
Think of that. Less than 10% is in deep donktardia.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Old and unimproved. at October 16, 2015 05:58 PM (kLrYQ)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 16, 2015 05:34 PM (awspb)
--------
Oh sure, we told you that we would take care of you when you got old, and what that means is we'll give you enough morphine to stop your breathing.
Posted by: Your Medicare Overlords at October 16, 2015 05:58 PM (6n332)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
_______________
What state can you not own a gun in?
I know some have restrictions on clip size, etc, but every state allows some form of gun ownership.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 05:58 PM (hUjwy)
She'll need to disarm us to get away with what she really wants to do as prezzy.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 05:58 PM (NOIQH)
Australia doesn't. Get it? Hillary saying we will have to look into that?
How? Repeal the 2nd amendment? Good luck
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 05:58 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2015 05:59 PM (zOTsN)
Most of the guns confiscated after Katrina were from empty houses.
hahahaha @ "most"
Well, that makes it okay, then.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:59 PM (Fv3UZ)
Clinton's not afraid.
I am a Clinton and I have a vag (a nasty one, but a vag nonetheless) .
I am invincible.
Eat it, bitchez.
Posted by: Hillary at October 16, 2015 05:59 PM (c7vUv)
Posted by: Willy J. at October 16, 2015 05:59 PM (GfSPN)
Posted by: Carol at October 16, 2015 05:59 PM (sj3Ax)
We're gonna need a bigger gun safe.
Posted by: everybody, everywhere at October 16, 2015 06:00 PM (wAQA5)
Waiting patiently in cammies with a sub moa rifle in an attempt to make one quality shot .
Thank goodness they're not talking about confiscation of rifles like that ,, cause I won't have any trouble giving up my great grandfathers colt police pistol or the 1911 my dad left me when he passed .
The feds can have those handguns , even though the pistols are the only tangible reminders I have of my beloved forebears .
//////////////
Posted by: awkward davies at October 16, 2015 06:00 PM (mP1RE)
Posted by: Soothsayer
_________
I honestly don't believe that. If the government literally started rounding them up door to door, I think you would see a full blown insurrection.
Now if they just passed laws like they did in places like Connecticut that are universally ignored, then no, you're not going to see an insurrection.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 06:00 PM (hUjwy)
They said the same thing about school prayer, gay marriage and universal healthcare. People who forget that is more than tedious.
( do I even have to mention the AWB?)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 06:01 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2015 06:01 PM (rjtGa)
They just have no idea how it will end. They own the cities.
Who owns the countryside?
Who has most of the current and former military?
Is Manhattan and NYC an asset or a liability?
Posted by: rd
---------------------------------------------------------------
And really, along with your observation in #2, in the end who will comprise most of their means for using force to coerce people? ie. police and army.
Modern Men in high heels.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 16, 2015 06:01 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 06:01 PM (LUgeY)
Let's be honest with ourselves: 3/4'rs of all gun owners won't do jack shit if Government took away their guns.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:57 PM (Fv3UZ)
Simply WRONG. Gun owners own gun because they can and they will not give them up, PERIOD.
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 06:01 PM (jJRIy)
Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2015 06:01 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 06:02 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 16, 2015 06:02 PM (Nj2wY)
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (hUjwy)
This is what they've been doing in California. Just make it really freaking annoying and hope the number of potential "resisters" dwindles until you can take complete control because no one's left to fight back.
And it's been a holding action, despite the number of gun owners that have left the state.
The courts keep slapping them down, but they pass new unconstitutional jackass laws every year, as fast as the courts can stop them.
No doubt they are looking forward to replacing some court justices so they can just ignore the constitution and usher in their People's Paradise... Che posters all around!
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 16, 2015 06:02 PM (bLnSU)
Posted by: DonS at October 16, 2015 06:02 PM (Q2pWM)
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 06:02 PM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2015 06:02 PM (DL2i+)
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Obamao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Except perhaps Reggie.
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 16, 2015 06:02 PM (E5UB0)
I'm almost surprised she didn't say, "well, let's see how it helps having a gun when Putin invades America, right, Mr Right Winger? Haw Haw"
Posted by: mallfly the unvertible at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (qSIlh)
http://tinyurl.com/pdshev9
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (GERXL)
Posted by: Lauren at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (3VDyI)
Posted by: eleven at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (rjtGa)
Good luck doing it in unfriendly territory.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (oVJmc)
Most of the guns confiscated after Katrina were from empty houses.
hahahaha @ "most"
Well, that makes it okay, then.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:59 PM (Fv3UZ)
That won't happen again. NRA sued and won. They will not be taken guns from you for any reason.
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (jJRIy)
If the government literally started rounding them up door to door, I think you would see a full blown insurrection.
Which is exactly why They will never do it that way.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (Fv3UZ)
Hopefully moot considering the unConstitutionality of it.
.
.
.Didn't work too well for the Brits on April 19 1775 and they seriously thought it was going to be a walk in the park.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 06:04 PM (iONHu)
Sadly true. Conservatives will solemnly intone 'it's the law' like they did with the gay marriage ruling, and piss all over people who defy it.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 06:04 PM (Fcca6)
>>She laughed today at question of FBI investigation.
Clinton's not afraid.
I am a Clinton and I have a vag (a nasty one, but a vag nonetheless) .
I am invincible.
Eat it, bitchez.
Posted by: Hillary at October 16, 2015 05:59 PM (c7vUv)
...................
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Posted by: necrotizing fasciitis of the piss flaps at October 16, 2015 06:04 PM (wAQA5)
But that 1/4 would give them hell. 1/4 of 80 MILLION.
Think DC sniper writ large. Every major city shut down.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 06:04 PM (rCGpC)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 16, 2015 06:05 PM (Nj2wY)
But I'm sure the question got asked. So why is that information being withheld?
Rhetorical question. I know damn well what the answer is.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 06:05 PM (sI4OA)
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:05 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: himself at October 16, 2015 06:06 PM (8CdUx)
(in Trumps case, questioner called Obama "not an American")
Posted by: Gerald at October 16, 2015 06:06 PM (HyD1b)
Posted by: Garrett at October 16, 2015 06:07 PM (Ni2Ez)
Let's be honest with ourselves: 3/4'rs of all gun owners won't do jack shit if Government took away their guns.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 05:57
That still leaves 25M people will 75M guns. The determined ones.
Hey all you Iraq/Astan vets want to remind us about how many insurgents you were fighting over there?
Posted by: traye at October 16, 2015 06:07 PM (K/7I5)
**He's a great guy, but, he married very poorly.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2015 06:08 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
Yeah but they wore bright red coats and marched down the middle of the street.
Posted by: Bill Cosby sketch at October 16, 2015 06:08 PM (9Fc79)
Sadly true. Conservatives will solemnly intone 'it's the law' like they did with the gay marriage ruling, and piss all over people who defy it.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
________________
It's an apple and oranges comparison.
Gay people getting a piece of paper from the government saying they're married is just not the same as some armed government stormtrooper banging on your door and demanding all your guns be turned over.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 06:08 PM (hUjwy)
Inner city democrats who were too dumb to leave.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 05:55 PM (oVJmc)
NO. These were just isolated groups of people with no way to defend themselves against a large group of people with guns that took them by surprise. They were also "being relocated for their own safety" to the FEMA camps.
When Hillary's goons try to take the guns from Fred's neighborhood, are you just going to sit around waiting until they come to your neighborhood? Knowing yours will be on the list?
Or are you going to go downtown burning down the jail? Or putting up roadblocks on the road back to the jail? Or just finding a good spot and sniping the asshole directing the seizures?
If that is too violent, you could always find his house and burn that down before he is trying to seize your guns.
Posted by: rd at October 16, 2015 06:08 PM (SukjU)
That still leaves 25M people will 75M guns. The determined ones.
And guess how many special agents the FBI has.
14k.
Even with the locals factored in, it's Custer-Level.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 06:09 PM (oVJmc)
>>>
Will I go toe to toe with a SWAT team no. Will I hide them so only a thorough door to door search will find them yes. They can't find all the shit in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Willy J. at October 16, 2015 06:09 PM (GfSPN)
Posted by: Garrett at October 16, 2015 05:46 PM (Ni2Ez) <<<
Kimberly Guilfoyle professional beard.
Posted by: Ralph at October 16, 2015 06:09 PM (+bKWx)
My point is that most people are pussies.
It's absurd that the Leftist govt would go all stormtrooper and collect guns door-to-door. It won't happen that way.
The Federal government will simply deny gun owners from receiving anything at all federal. And I'm not talking about welfare. I'm talking about every single federal program such as student financial aid, mortgages, employment, etc.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:09 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: wooga at October 16, 2015 06:10 PM (XK0dn)
Posted by: brak at October 16, 2015 06:10 PM (xwPSp)
Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2015 06:10 PM (zOTsN)
Was it Kasparov who said Americans giving up their guns would be insane or suicide?
Whoever said it would be right. That would be the last act before full tyranny. Most gun owners know this.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2015 06:11 PM (ODxAs)
They said the same thing about school prayer, gay marriage and universal healthcare. People who forget that is more than tedious.
( do I even have to mention the AWB?)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 06:01 PM (D/1P4)
____________________________________
But before all of those things came to be, you have to admit that there were a lot of keyboard warriors writing things like,"If gay marriage becomes the law of the land there will be a mass uprising." Or, "If they ban school prayer in this country, there will be a REVOLUTION!"
Still waiting for anything like that to occur. You'd think the final straw, after all of the other "lines in the sand" that have been drawn by the rightosphere, that overthrowing 12,000 years of defining marriage as between a man and a woman, that some brave typer would have started the ball rolling. Hasn't happened.
Posted by: CozMark at October 16, 2015 06:11 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 16, 2015 06:11 PM (gyKtp)
No it isn't. It's a bullshit read of the constitution that conservatives let happen without even civil disobedience.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 06:11 PM (Fcca6)
Hey all you Iraq/Astan vets want to remind us about how many insurgents you were fighting over there?
Posted by: traye
_____________
When you look at a map of how individual voting precincts went (red vs blue) it really hits home how a few tiny blue dots in a sea of red basically run this country.
DC is a 10 mile square. We just have this idea of an omnipotent government.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 06:11 PM (hUjwy)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 16, 2015 06:12 PM (AC0lD)
Good luck doing it in unfriendly territory.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (oVJmc)
Gun laws in those communities are laughable, what with every sweet little Granny on her way to the AME Church packing a .357 Magnum to keep the yutes from snatching her purse.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2015 06:12 PM (kXoT0)
They will tax the Hell out of them
Four times their value
Ammo too
Say the tax is to recoup the cost of the damage done by guns
It's a tax!
Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2015 06:13 PM (zOTsN)
What if your state govt decides to deny driver's licenses to gun owners; what are you gonna do?
There are all kinds of ways the government can impose their will upon you.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:13 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 16, 2015 06:13 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 06:14 PM (GERXL)
Posted by: Bill Cosby sketch at October 16, 2015 06:08 PM
The coin toss was rigged!!!!!
Posted by: Lord Cornwallis at October 16, 2015 06:14 PM (KrAjA)
Posted by: JohnnyBoy at October 16, 2015 06:14 PM (TPjwz)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 16, 2015 06:14 PM (ucDmr)
carpool
there is always an end-around to their bullshit
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 06:15 PM (A9KzJ)
They're ALL planted questions with Hillary. All staged, all her meetings w/"everyday Americans" are really people related to the campaign, or organizations that support her (like PP). It's all a charade, because granny Hillary cannot endure being challenged or surprised.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 06:15 PM (NOIQH)
blue) it really hits home how a few tiny blue dots in a sea of red
basically run this country.
In blue upstate NY, the cities are surrounded by red. Where I live the only Democratic control is in Buffalo, Rochester, etc....the suburbs are all Republican.
Posted by: Colin at October 16, 2015 06:15 PM (Espnc)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
Elections have consequences, including from unelected judges.
Unless you want to start shooting judges, not sure what the appropriate response really is for gay marriage being handed down when you're talking about an insurrection.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (hUjwy)
What if your state govt decides to deny driver's licenses to gun owners; what are you gonna do?
"
What guns?
Posted by: Lauren at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (3VDyI)
Posted by: Hillaroid at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (9Fc79)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (kXoT0)
Yes, I, as a legal citizen do indeed need a license to be on the road; whereas the foreign invader can go on his merry way...literally. That will never change.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (Fv3UZ)
Posted by: Eromero at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (go5uR)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (KCxzN)
It is kinda funny how the lefties don't care if the criminals have guns, just the public at large.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (ODxAs)
Sadly true. Conservatives will solemnly intone 'it's the law' like
they did with the gay marriage ruling, and piss all over people who defy
it.
.
.
.We do have some recent history on compliance with newly enacted draconian gun laws so let's check those numbers out.
Hmmm......both CT and NY had about a 15% compliance rate with registration laws where the State knows the name and address of each and every owner of a weapon that must be registered. The State also knows who did and more importantly, who did not register that weapon, but both States have refused to "go after" those people. Now why could this be?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 06:17 PM (iONHu)
>>>said she was an assistant district attorney when she had
dinner with that handsome entrepreneur named Gavin and found out he was
running for the Board of Supervisors. Kimberly wrote him a $500 check on
the spot. -The maximum allowed,- she admitted with a chuckle.<<<
Posted by: Ralph at October 16, 2015 06:17 PM (+bKWx)
They will tax the Hell out of them
Four times their value
Ammo too>>>
So they wont exist like cocaine doesn't exist? Way too many here now and guns are not one time use and ammo is reloadble.
Posted by: Willy J. at October 16, 2015 06:17 PM (GfSPN)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 06:03 PM (jJRIy)
Oh, they won't confiscate guns because it's illegal?
(hint: it was always illegal, SCOTUS decision or no. Second amendment and all that. I have no doubt they'd confiscate all firearms in a disaster area for "safety reasons" if it came up as an issue again like in katrina)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2015 06:18 PM (AkOaV)
It's called the 2nd Amendment.
It's there to defend the 1st Amendment.
She doesn't like either very much. But so many in her crowd like the 5th, Ms. Lerner & co.
Posted by: GBruno at October 16, 2015 06:19 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
Most of this in my opinion is just revenge fantasy.
I could maybe understand their obsession with shutting down gun shows if a huge amount of these shooters got their guns that way, but it's like ZERO. They just know it's "our" thing so they want to punish us.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 06:19 PM (hUjwy)
See also poll taxes
But that's how they will do it. A huge tax
Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2015 06:19 PM (zOTsN)
Posted by: Willy J. at October 16, 2015 06:17 PM (GfSPN)
Just think of all those struggling machine shops in small town America who could make just 5-10 illegal guns a month with no one the wiser.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 16, 2015 06:19 PM (kXoT0)
They don't know who didn't register.
I mean, they might be able to find out some of the names indirectly, but all they know is who has had a background check at an FFL in t he last x number of years, not what weapons or how many they bought.
but yes, its estimated that only 10-15% of CT gun owners who owned "assault weapons" registered their rifles.
But no one really knows.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2015 06:20 PM (AkOaV)
"What if your state govt decides to deny driver's licenses to gun owners; what are you gonna do?"
Ima drive my busted pos truck, then when I get pulled, immediately cap the po po, take his .40 and drive off in his nice vehicle.
Oh, and arm the IED thats in the back of the truck for when the second guys come to investigate.
(thats not really my plan, NSA)
Posted by: traye at October 16, 2015 06:20 PM (K/7I5)
I don't know. Because you'd be shot if you tried?
Posted by: pep at October 16, 2015 05:26 PM (LAe3v)
^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is my hill to die on. But, it won't be a hill. It will be a properly constructed bunker, and I plan to be waist deep, in this order, in :.50, .308, .223, 12 ga, .45 ACP brass. Afterwards that, a little Ka-Bar fun as the lights grow dim. Fuck these people.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 06:20 PM (5buP8)
no way they do that with my Glock 19!
Posted by: Jeanne up north at October 16, 2015 06:21 PM (x0Qtr)
In Massachusetts, you LOSE your INALIENABLE Second Amendment RIGHT if you have a single domestic violence call on your record.
You kapeesh?
All your girl or wife or whatever has to do is call the cops on you once and your Second Amendment rights are nullified by the state.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:21 PM (Fv3UZ)
I wonder if Hillary Clinton has taken the time to flesh out a policy position on the pros and cons of rat poison.
Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2015 06:21 PM (3tjn4)
The fact that LEO's publicly stated they would not enforce the Safe Act provisions (in 62 counties) may have had something to do with it.
As of this date, compliance is still abysmal and the whole issue is being pretty much ignored.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 16, 2015 06:21 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: Ed Anger at October 16, 2015 06:21 PM (Cg/hS)
*Prison at this time being a work gang in perpetuity.
Posted by: Ralph at October 16, 2015 06:22 PM (+bKWx)
The Australian government purchased 650,000 to one million guns with funds raised via a special tax.
........................
So they paid the fuckers to buy their guns?
Bloody wankers.
Posted by: wth at October 16, 2015 06:22 PM (wAQA5)
hillary is just giving mouth poop to her fellow lefties. but to people that say they won't confiscate, then it doesn't matter. I certainly wouldn't comply, and what are they gonna tax. I just care about having adequate power to protect my family.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2015 06:23 PM (ODxAs)
Yeah. "Allows." I think I see the problem here.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 16, 2015 06:23 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: ThunderB at October 16, 2015 06:23 PM (zOTsN)
Massachusetts sucks.
...and you don't have to live there.
Posted by: Garrett at October 16, 2015 06:23 PM (Ni2Ez)
That's because we're the enemy, not criminals. Criminals give them something to rail against, something they must "solve" using tax dollars. There's an incentive not to eradicate all crime.
But citizen taxpayers with guns? They're scary, not only because they are an obstacle to tyranny, but because they are people who see taking care of themselves as their responsibility, not the government. An army of NON-Julias.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 06:23 PM (NOIQH)
With just a little more money some very sophisticated firearms could (and have) been manufactured.
Even automatic weapons.
Australian police have become very concerned about weapons that have been turning up. They are homemade sub machine guns and do a pretty good job of sending lead down range.
And then there's 3D printing.
So yes they could attempt a registration and as is happening in New York and CT, people will ignore it.
Oh some people will obey it and some people might get found out(i.e. ratted out by ex wives/neighbors/MIL) and those seized with big headlines all about it.
For the most part though most of us will just wait and see. perhaps stashing a few away in a dry and safe place.
And then you will loaded the gun with powder and rammed a shell in after and now your just waiting to light the fuse.
Once you give an order like that you must except the consequences and those in power really do not want to. YET.
It's why they're shipping in labor and they'll ship in the insurrectionists next year.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 06:24 PM (Xo1Rt)
*Prison at this time being a work gang in perpetuity.
Posted by: Ralph
__________________
Have you met my wife?
Not so difficult decision
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 06:24 PM (hUjwy)
Posted by: Bruce Boehner at October 16, 2015 06:25 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 06:25 PM (5buP8)
In CA we have a huge number of stupid gun laws. You have to pass a test to buy long arms or handguns, it was previously only handguns. There are requirements for safe storage, you have to either identify a safe on a list or else buy a lock. Lots of little laws just to mess with you.
As far as the Aussies go, they had full registration. CA now has full registration, starting in 2014 for long arms and in the early 90s for handguns. Aside from whatever "assault weapons" were registered. There was actually a bill to confiscate registered "assault weapons" in CA but they didn't pass it. If they had full registration I think they would have, but once they confiscate who would register anything?
Posted by: DonS at October 16, 2015 06:25 PM (Q2pWM)
That is a federal law. Some states may add on but if you have a domestic violence conviction you already don't get to own guns forever.
Posted by: Willy J. at October 16, 2015 06:25 PM (GfSPN)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 06:25 PM (LUgeY)
turn in your gun and keep them or you can keep your gun and risk going
to *prison and losing all.
*Prison at this time being a work gang in perpetuity.
Posted by: Ralph at October 16, 2015 06:22
I know that this is hard to believe, but there are people who actually deep down in their souls think that it is far better to live a free life, or die fighting for a free life than to live on your knees. I know those kinds of people are less and less but there are still a lot of those out there.
Posted by: traye at October 16, 2015 06:25 PM (K/7I5)
Will this prison have Pork Products?
Posted by: Garrett at October 16, 2015 06:27 PM (Ni2Ez)
Do you know why "gin free" zones were created by the Left?
Gavin Newsome helped me finally suss out the exact reason: so the Left can successfully challenge the Fourth Amendment.
The Fourth Amendment is already exempt in a lot of govt places -- they have the Right to search you when you enter many buildings. But the Left wants that exemption to be much broader so their police can search you anytime they 'suspect' you of carrying a weapon...for the sake of public safety, naturally.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:27 PM (Fv3UZ)
Cast your mind back to the idiot in California, was it, who went on a rampage and how he upset things.
This was ONE person--imagine a dozen like him simultaneously.
In 35 or 40 states, then ask how confiscation would work.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 16, 2015 06:27 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 06:28 PM (iQIUe)
I mean, they might be able to find out some of the names indirectly,
but all they know is who has had a background check at an FFL in t he
last x number of years, not what weapons or how many they bought.
but yes, its estimated that only 10-15% of CT gun owners who owned "assault weapons" registered their rifles.
But no one really knows.
.
.
.
.Oh yes in CT they know who didn't register. CT DESPP has been maintaining a defacto registration database for all firearms purchased in the State since 1993. They know who did and who did not register under the new law.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 06:28 PM (iONHu)
Posted by: irongrampa at October 16, 2015 06:29 PM (jeCnD)
Posted by: filbert at October 16, 2015 06:29 PM (/j9PE)
They don't want any more negative legal precedent.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 06:29 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: filbert at October 16, 2015 06:29 PM (/j9PE)
*Prison at this time being a work gang in perpetuity.
Posted by: Ralph
__________________
Have you met my wife?
Not so difficult decision
With a guarantee in blood that you wouldn't be back after they were turned in, ala the Warsaw Ghetto?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 06:30 PM (rCGpC)
What if your state govt decides to deny driver's licenses to gun owners; what are you gonna do?
There are all kinds of ways the government can impose their will upon you.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at October 16, 2015 06:13 PM (Fv3UZ)
Either drive illegally or retain my weapons illegally.
Posted by: Hawkins1701 at October 16, 2015 06:31 PM (TZYqp)
Lots. Lots and lots. They will try to inflate the price/possession of ammo first.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 06:33 PM (5buP8)
Only if they can prove you own one and then charge you with the failure to report it can they do anything.
I would think that they would not want that court fight.
Because of the 2A most of what they passed in CT and NY could be found unconstitutional.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 06:34 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 06:35 PM (rCGpC)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
Elections have consequences, including from unelected judges.
Unless you want to start shooting judges, not sure what the appropriate response really is for gay marriage being handed down when you're talking about an insurrection.
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 06:16 PM (hUjwy)
"Elections have consequences" applies to gun seizing as well. Conservatives will intone that as they hand in their guns.
How about doing what Kim Davis did? Could they stop sixty million people who refused to recognize gay marriage? Could they stop all forty Republican governors if they refused to issue gay marriage licenses? No.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 06:35 PM (Fcca6)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 06:36 PM (QFjNO)
Posted by: Willy J. at October 16, 2015 06:25 PM (GfSPN)
conviction is one thing.
Soothsayer is saying in MA it just requires a complaint. i dont know if thats true or not, but sounds like MA.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2015 06:36 PM (AkOaV)
>>Too many drunks?
And now they're freaking out about gum!
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 06:37 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015
They know who took an 80% lower and finished themselves?
Posted by: traye at October 16, 2015 06:39 PM (K/7I5)
Interesting to speculate about what would I do.
I already gamed this out, for me, it's easy.
Exactly what will remain privy to me only.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 16, 2015 06:41 PM (jeCnD)
I bet lefties who like their firearms will vote for Hildabeast figuring she won't get their weapons or that she talks a good game but that would never happen
Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2015 06:42 PM (uvPCb)
ATF has the right to audit any dealers books. So yes. They do.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 06:42 PM (rCGpC)
Why do you think they haven't already tried to confiscate guns; they know what would happen if they did.
Remember how hard the DC sniper was to stop? Now imagine 100,000 DC snipers all going after government officials.
Posted by: An Observation at October 16, 2015 06:48 PM (xpZl1)
"managed to take away millions of guns"
FALSE
total number confiscated/bought back was 700,000-900,000.
"in a year they were all gone"
FALSE
Australian legal firearm ownership is back to pre-1996 levels. There is also a substantial black market of an estimated 260,000 plus guns that were either not
surrendered during the buyback or illegally imported since then (number stolen from legitimate owners is negligible).
Guns continue to be used in murders and other crimes, most recently the murder of a police accountant outside the NSW police headquarters and the hostage-taking in a city cafe which ended in the murder of a hostage.
Since the vast majority of illegal guns were never licensed, they fall entirely outside the "gun control" regime, which imposes often petty and absurd restrictions on law-abiding owners (eg by banning cosmetic alterations because they make guns "look" scarier).
Also bear in mind that Australia's total population is about equal to that of New York state.
Posted by: Erwin at October 16, 2015 06:53 PM (jd0O4)
Posted by: Emile Antoon Khadaji at October 16, 2015 06:53 PM (Nj2wY)
Posted by: x at October 16, 2015 06:54 PM (57fhp)
How about doing what Kim Davis did? Could they stop sixty million
people who refused to recognize gay marriage? Could they stop all forty
Republican governors if they refused to issue gay marriage licenses?
No.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
_______
You really have a low opinion of gun owners. Sorry to disappoint, but it's going to be a much different reaction if the Feds try to round up guns from law abiding owners than gays getting marriage certificates, mainly because it's not something that affects these people directly.
BTW, since when do we have 40 Republican Governors?
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 07:01 PM (hUjwy)
Posted by: x at October 16, 2015 07:03 PM (57fhp)
Living in her bubble, Hillary doesn't see that the trend in most of the country is going the other way. e.g., we are now up to 40 states that allow civilian concealed carry of handguns with either no permit required or a "shall issue" permit process that requires the permit to issue unless the applicant is a convicted felon, etc. The ten states that don't are already Blue strongholds (CA, NY, IL, HI, MD, MA, NJ, RI, DE, WI, DC).
Upstate New York (40% of its people) is pissed over Cuomo's anti-gun NY SAFE Act, enacted days after Sandy Hook, and other things (e.g. NY's fracking ban). Trump has always had popular appeal downstate. If he can peel off 25% of the Black and Hispanic vote downstate he actually has a chance of winning New York State.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 16, 2015 07:04 PM (r1fLd)
All it takes is the shift of ONE vote on SCOTUS to render it null and void.
But the right to bear arms still exists, whether the tyrants recognize it or not.
I cannot say what I would have done 10 or 20 years ago if the commissar knocked on my door. I can say that now, with my youngest just turned 18, I will defend my right to bear arms with my life.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2015 07:06 PM (JfN61)
maintaining a defacto registration database for all firearms purchased
in the State since 1993. They know who did and who did not register
under the new law.
Which, of course, raises the question: "Why aren't they arresting these criminals"? The answer is simple: most new laws have a 99% compliance rate from the law abiding. When 80% of the law abiding people effectively said "Go FCUK your self" it scared the dog piss out of the government officials. They never expected that response from their citizens. That law is effectively dead letter law.
Posted by: An Observation at October 16, 2015 07:06 PM (xpZl1)
they don't seem to get the 2nd is there to remind them not hang themselves.
Posted by: x at October 16, 2015 07:08 PM (57fhp)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2015 07:09 PM (r65B3)
BTW, since when do we have 40 Republican Governors?
Okay thirty, but the point still stands.
It's not a low opinion, it's an opinion based on observation. Obamacare affected everybody. Has a single person refused to pay the fine for not having insurance?
If you don't see civil disobedience, don't expect any other kind.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 07:22 PM (Fcca6)
"Background Checks" sounds common sense until you realize we already have a background check system that's of marginal benefit and that none of the proposed fixes would actually improve it but only create more hassles for civilian gun buyers.
SCOTUS may take a case this year to decide whether limits on magazine capacity and bans on so-called assault weapons violate the 2nd Amendment. This case would only be relevant in the ten or so Blue State strongholds that have these kinds of laws. I expect that SCOTUS won't take the case and let sleeping dogs lie.
I say "so-called" assault weapons because there's confusion about what they really are. They are not military grade automatic machine guns like the M-16 or AK-47 although they look like them, mostly because they have a pistol grip, and hence are "scary." Functionally, lots of rifles without the pistol grip are just as effective if you want to shoot up a classroom. In point of fact, an ordinary pistol is more effective in close quarters if you want to shoot up a classroom.
Posted by: Ignoramus at October 16, 2015 07:25 PM (r1fLd)
Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2015 07:30 PM (uvPCb)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at October 16, 2015 07:36 PM (4KoRb)
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at October 16, 2015 07:37 PM (4KoRb)
observation. Obamacare affected everybody. Has a single person refused
to pay the fine for not having insurance?
If you don't see civil disobedience, don't expect any other kind.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 07:22 PM (Fcca6)
Your argument fails because gun fire is the final response of people pushed with their backs against the wall. Those people who won't protest Obamacare nevertheless draw and fire to stop criminals or to protect their lives. Sorry, you are wrong.
Posted by: An Observation at October 16, 2015 07:40 PM (xpZl1)
Guns all a whole lot more deadly than that pipsqueak .223 Bushmaster that frightens the Democrats so much. The guy ahead of me was having his .338 Winchester magnum checked out. He was going to be using 225 grain loads.
Mine's a little old .30-06 and that .338 mag will push a round with 25 percent more energy than the best I've got. Still, the .30-06 punches with far more force than that "scary" thing the stupids like to call an assault rifle.
The sounds in the shed were deafening; ear protection is required at the gate in from the parking lot.
Posted by: the littl shyning man at October 16, 2015 07:40 PM (U6f54)
I believe we should stop using phrases like "law-abiding citizens" and "law-abiding gun owners", and replace them with something like "peaceable citizens" and "peaceable gun owners".
The reason is that laws that violate the Constitution are not legitimate laws at all, and we are under no obligation to obey them. Likewise, laws that are unevenly applied are also illegitimate, such as laws that allow elected officials to have the protection of a security detail, or rich people who can afford it to hire private armed bodyguards, while everyone else has no such protection.
If laws are passed that require us to register or turn in our guns and we refuse to comply, then we can no longer call ourselves "law-abiding citizens". That phrase will then be used against us, as we will be law-breakers by definition.
I think it's more than mere semantics; it's a matter of mindset.
Posted by: rickl at October 16, 2015 07:43 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: My Rifle is my best friend at October 16, 2015 08:35 PM (qjyQp)
Their high water mark was The assault weapon bill, which did pretty much nothing, but turn millions of bored suburbanites into proud owners of AR-15s and AK-47s... And people with "skin in the game".
In the last twenty years, we have gone from concealed carry being illegal, almost everywhere, for almost everyone, to becoming so widespread that even places like Missouri, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois have to issue concealed carry licenses.
More people with "skin in the game".
For reasons I cannot understand, the gun-banners, having steadily lost public support, seem to think that with just one more mass shooting, they will be able to stampede us all into turning over our weapons, after decades of gradualism, they fancy that they can TASTE the final victory of confiscation. Do you think That Hillary would be satisfied if all she could achieve in 8 years in the White House is bringing Registration, magazine limits, bans on certain rifles, like they have in California, NY, and New Jersey? No, she WANTS IT ALL. Obama is not foolish enough to sign an Executive order to do what everybody on the left wants, but Hillary may be nuts enough to do it.
When The US is languishing in a third Alinsky-Democrat term, She may think she needs to do something really ballsy. Forget Putin, forget ISIS,
she'll want to come after YOU.
Some posters have suggested that 3/4 of gun owners will just roll over for a confiscation.
That may be true, it will not take very many people actively resisting to make a mass confiscation impossible.
So what would be required?
They would need to repeal the second amendment, they would need to repeal the fourth amendment, to facilitate warrantless searches of citizens traveling, and of every house, apartment, storage unit and business office in the country.
They could not count on existing police, they will be busy enough with the exploding crime rate in our cities and towns. National Guardsmen will be busy trying to keep order in the cities....
So They will need to recruit maybe 3-5 times the total number of police and soldiers we presently have. Not everyone will qualify, any citizen who has gone through the NICS check to buy a gun is probably a trouble maker, they will have to recruit NON gun owners, train them, and train them for door-to-door confiscation. The first wave will be successful, the second wave will result in hundreds of dead families, (henceforth to be referred to as terrorists) then it gets interesting.
Citizens shooting back, effectively. Neighborhood resistance, surviving family members hunting down members of confiscation squads and ambushing them at their cop bars, or following them home and ambushing them there, along with their families. Civil wars are ANYTHING but civil.
At first they will brag about the results, Imagine a couple Wacos every month. Then they will embargo the news. There will be no cable news other than CNN and MSNBC... the internet will be severely controlled, for "security reasons"....
But word will still get out.
People Like Feinstein, and Clinton have not thought it through, but they no doubt are willing to have this army of confiscation fight to the last man, but I doubt it will take that long before this army dissolves, and the assassinations begin.
This won't be like the Last Civil war, it won't even be like the war of 1776, it will be like France in 1789. That's how it looks to me.
Posted by: Justin Travis at October 16, 2015 08:50 PM (54omF)
You have no fuggin idea. gay marriage, and all the other non-rights issues that have happened so far mean jack shit in the grand scheme of things.
But, you try becoming jack booted facists, for real; ignoring our 2A right entirely?
Yeah, better suit up chief. It won't be pretty.
Posted by: exsanguine at October 16, 2015 09:10 PM (dZhSr)
Posted by: Mark in Sandy Ut at October 16, 2015 09:57 PM (xGX1p)
Meanwhile the Middle Eastern gangs are lightly armed, and shoot at each others' houses. Most murders are not shootings. Our biggest shootout was the Milperra Massacre I think.
It's as if they are saying "let's be like the Eskimos".
Posted by: bruce at October 17, 2015 12:01 AM (XOw5j)
Posted by: jrg at October 17, 2015 01:27 AM (IyWct)
Posted by: rumcrook at October 17, 2015 03:31 AM (uiVGU)
You say that like that's a bad thing, considering how much we are in debt, the fewer freebies given, the better.
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