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Trump Fights. Trump Wins.
As a perspective President, Donald Trump is useless to me. As a tool to bash the establishment and give them heartburn? He's magnificent.
CNBC wanted to jack their non-existant night ratings by expanding the upcoming GOP to 3 hours. Trump said, go to hell. CNBC says, if you need us we'll be in hell.CNBC has agreed to limit its Republican primary debate later this month to two hours, acquiescing to the demands of Donald Trump and other GOP campaigns, CNN has confirmed. A source with knowledge of the decision said the Republican National Committee was putting in calls to the campaigns on Friday morning to inform them of the new format, which will cap the debate to two hours, including commercials.Trump and Ben Carson threatened to pull out if the debate went three hours. Without those two, this is a mostly a RINO snoozefest no one is going to watch. In fact, imagine if Trump and Carson followed through on this threat and agreed to go on CNN or Fox opposite this CNBC thing. Which gets better ratings? At the least, the Don and Ben show eats into the officially sanctioned event. Twitter is filled with Team GOP types mocking Trump for not wanting to do 3 hours. He did fade in the last event so he probably does want to avoid being "low energy" again. But that's not going to be the story. The story is going to be...Trump fights the liberal media and Trump beats the liberal media (and the GOP establishment). So much fun! Something this little episode shows? Trump's right about something we all know, the GOP is filled with terrible negotiators. Some campaigns were upset that there'd be no opening and closing statements.Rand Paul's said he'd pull out and Ted Cruz's said he seriously consider not showing. Other campaigns however took the typical GOP line....pre-announced surrender.
Then it was Marco Rubio campaign manager Terry Sullivan’s turn. Rubio would be present at the debate — he’d be in Boulder “hell or high water,” regardless of the final decision, but he wanted the campaigns to speak with one voice and agreed with other campaigns on the need for opening and closing statements. Peter Flaherty, an adviser to Jeb Bush, voiced his position — that the former Florida governor intended to participate in the debate no matter what, but that he’d like there to be opening and closing statements.Compare and contrast who is desperate for a deal no matter what and who simply says what they want and get it. Would this strategy work for a President? Of course not. Does it work for an outside candidate running against the weakness of the current political establishment? Yeah, it does. I've said from the start that I'm sure Trump won't be the nominee. I still feel that way. But I'm less and less sure everyday.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: brak at October 16, 2015 09:48 AM (xwPSp)
TRUMP!
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 16, 2015 09:49 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (/Ho8c)
Of course they outsiders... The GOPe would have wilted like a lilly without water or sun.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (rCGpC)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:52 AM (rCGpC)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 09:52 AM (2Ojst)
"I won't participate if low polling Bush or Rubio are on stage. Nobody wants to see THEM"
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (O2oQ5)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (O2oQ5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (CrfL3)
I know Dems and Repubs that would vote for him.
It's stunning the support he has.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (qCMvj)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 09:54 AM (xq1UY)
You're Welcome,
D.J. Trump
Towers Above the Rest
Posted by: Voter/ConsumerUnit#985731 at October 16, 2015 09:54 AM (pxwEr)
As opposed to whom?
At this point, Donald Trump is the only acceptable candidate to be President.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 09:54 AM (Dk/hK)
The Parallax Trump. A new perspective. . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (St6BJ)
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Um, it's what Obama has done his entire presidency and he has almost always gotten his way. I'm not so sure it wouldn't work for any Republican president who held his ground. I think a lot of the Dems would be just as craven as the Republicans if faced with someone who forced them to work in the face of resistance. How long before the Dem mantra would be "we only control X" or "as the minority party we can't do anything?"
Posted by: WOPR at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (LTDSy)
I mean fuck, Marco can't win vs CNBC schedulers but he's going to beat Hillary in an election and then out negotiate Harry Reid as president? Yeah sure.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (BZAd3)
Hope they brought their Green Gargle Juice(TM).
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 09:54 AM (xq1UY)
thanks for reminder
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (qCMvj)
Lara Croft couldn't carry The Flying Nun's habit.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (rCGpC)
F$#@ CNBC, and f$#@ the GOP for even scheduling a debate with them in the first place,
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (NOIQH)
She noted 11 people over two hours after open and closing statements and commercials leaves no time for much "debating".
She right.
She's a mean woman not to be scorned.
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 09:55 AM (jJRIy)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 16, 2015 09:56 AM (O2oQ5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:56 AM (St6BJ)
While I'm still a Cruz Dude, I am truly enjoying watching Donald Trump's Hair confound all the talking heads. The attacks on him are rather tame, what few there are.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:56 AM (LUgeY)
I'm with you, Drew, I can't stand the idea of Trump as president.
But mocking him for pulling this off is just stupid. My God the GOP establishment is so stupid.
Posted by: dan-O at October 16, 2015 09:56 AM (ByqK7)
Donald Trump and Ben Carson beat CNBC into submission
heh.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:56 AM (qCMvj)
"Compare and contrast who is desperate for a deal no matter what and who simply says what they want and get it.
Would this strategy work for a President?"
It depends on who he's dealing with. Obama uses it with the GOP, America's enemies use it with Obama, this strategy works all the time.
Posted by: zmdavid at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (yTr2T)
"The Donald" not so much.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (k8tEg)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Bob at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (7xa1h)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (7ln+i)
As I noted in the EMT, the other great thing about Trump are his supporters. Willing to go to the mattresses against the BLM/leftist goon squads.
Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (m1pMI)
Posted by: TX ette at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (sUJHF)
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 09:58 AM (VndSC)
Fuck the GOP.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (u5gzz)
Only if the GOP fields Jeb or Itch-Kase.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:58 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: John Lovitz as The Annoying Man at October 16, 2015 09:58 AM (qjyQp)
100% true, but my guess is oftentimes they are getting exactly what they want.
Jeb! is a snooze fest. They don't want him to have to do an opening and closing statement. And they think Trump is the most hurt by a long debate.
This is all about attacking Trump at this point, it seems. The GOP is moving into burn it all down mode.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 09:58 AM (yvYC/)
Posted by: amichel at October 16, 2015 09:58 AM (I+4FK)
Carly likes debates because that's where she gets the most attention. Found her response to this a bit annoying.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 09:58 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:58 AM (qCMvj)
That is the GOPe.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (CrfL3)
Because we've done so well in the past selecting the people who ostensibly represent us.
The f--king meter is broken.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: TX ette at October 16, 2015 09:57 AM (sUJHF)
His kids are actually very intelligent and very accomplished in their own right.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (JtwS4)
That said if it were The Don, wearing a Mr T gold chain with his dick hanging out vs Shrillary or some other Prog-America hater I would of course pull a lever for The Donski in a heartbeat.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (k8tEg)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (WDySP)
My limited understanding is that campaign laws prevent any of the parties from having much of a say in the debates. It's the candidates who decide and those are all negotiated by the several campaigns.
Posted by: WOPR at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (LTDSy)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (qCMvj)
You appear to refuse to connect all the dots, Drew.
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:00 AM (MQEz6)
Do you think that Friedman was right when he said that the trick is not to find a moral person to do the right thing, but, "The way you solve things is by making it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing."
Do you think this is possible, or do you think that Trump is not only the wrong person but cannot be moved to doing something right?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2015 10:00 AM (3pRHP)
That is the GOPe.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 09:59 AM (CrfL3)
The GOP-e is "liked" only insofar as they can defeat anyone who challenges the leftist agenda.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:00 AM (St6BJ)
Isn't it sad that NOT ONE general or admiral has resigned in protest of creeping political correctness including creeping sharia law? And to think it's because that 6 figure income is just too cushy. Fuckers!
Posted by: Voter/ConsumerUnit#985731 at October 16, 2015 10:00 AM (pxwEr)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:00 AM (JtwS4)
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Please for the love of man, tell me you don't make decisions in your life based on what imbeciles on twitter say.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:00 AM (0LHZx)
Hey JJ is this Hebrew? Can you translate it. I think he is saying the scumbag terrorist is dead, fvck him?
http://tinyurl.com/qfg42xa
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 10:01 AM (jJRIy)
Exactly. Why would they want an additional hour for CNBC to ask additional "Why do you hate women, blacks and immigrants" type questions.
I have no doubt CNBC will use the exact same techniques as Fox and CNN - invitations to pile on each other. Not that they did that at the Dem debate...
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 10:01 AM (NOIQH)
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I thought it was going to be a behind closed doors thing?
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 16, 2015 10:01 AM (WDySP)
http://www.e2046.com/product/Celia+PE+Class+White+Swim+Wear+Version/23620/
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (CrfL3)
Posted by: zmdavid at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (yTr2T)
Automated Payment Transaction Tax is the way to go. However, it must be part of a constitutional amendment to eliminate the income tax.
Link in my nick.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (LXJ1e)
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It's Ok, if you are deeply involved in a drinking game, however.
Posted by: Roy at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (VndSC)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: John Lovitz
I would watch that. Otherwise, nope.
Posted by: Dang at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (2oWD2)
While Green Gargle Juice (TM) may not be for you, we can offer you our line of Long Q-Tips of Burning Pain (TM).
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (4nmNX)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (xq1UY)
Posted by: Huge Hewitt at October 16, 2015 10:03 AM (9Fc79)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:03 AM (CrfL3)
Posted by: Alfred E Neuman at October 16, 2015 10:03 AM (cgxNI)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:03 AM (evdj2)
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Carly wasn't so tough when he hit her over HP. It's her weak spot and she doesn't have a good answer. After Boxer crushed her on it in California, she should be better at it now but she still can't spin it.
Posted by: WOPR at October 16, 2015 10:03 AM (LTDSy)
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peeping in the Seafood Store at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (aeVIR)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (u5gzz)
Sadly, I don't do Hebrew. The article is in English and I assume is a reiteration of the video?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (nZ4Fr)
I mean, yes, there's some their sandbox their rules but there's no way in hell the DNC would even contemplate such a thing.
This is pure talking out my ass but I wonder if this isn't something of a disconnect between people who have actually worked outside of politics and those who have not. Trump, most particularly, understands that the power rests with the person who has what the other person wants. If the other person wants the widget more than the person who owns the widget, the widget owner has the upper hand.
Not. Rocket. Surgery.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (ppaKI)
Huma, Behind the Green Doors
"What will she find?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:03 AM (CrfL3)
Her G-spot in her throat. Oh wait; wrong flick. Never mind.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:05 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (ppaKI)
That's its role. A phony, Potemkin opposition party but in fact a wing of the Democrats.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:05 AM (St6BJ)
If Cruz goes third party, I'll vote for him.
Fuck the GOP.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud
"Congratulations, President Clinton." *media goes wild*
Posted by: Justice John Roberts at October 16, 2015 10:05 AM (2oWD2)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:06 AM (JtwS4)
I love, love me some Ted Cruz but on repeated viewings he just doesn't have the communication style to get the nomination, or get elected, IMO. Too much the podium speaker in a way that plays into every stereotype of "preachy" (used to call em "religious right" politicians) which is the equivalent of Kryptonite for many, otherwise conservative Northeasterners and suburbanites (yes they do exist).
So ixnay on the Ruzcay hope I'm afraid.
I'm looking at Carson or some other dark horse (yes I said that).
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 10:06 AM (k8tEg)
Yeah, keep fuckin' that chicken, John.
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 10:06 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (ppaKI)
I think the gimp's sleeping.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:06 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Huge Hewitt at October 16, 2015 10:03 AM (9Fc79)
Reagan. . . From "The Exorcist."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:06 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 10:06 AM (xq1UY)
Not. Rocket. Surgery.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (mf5HN)
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That's it exactly. Trump has been a bidness man for 40 years. That's all he's done, negotiate deals. And after 40 years who learn a thing or two about how to win negotiations.
Compare that to the 28 year old consultants who spend all their days worrying about what twitter is saying.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:07 AM (0LHZx)
Loadmaster?
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 10:06 AM (xq1UY)
Gatekeeper. . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:07 AM (St6BJ)
Automated Payment Transaction Tax is the way to go. However, it must be part of a constitutional amendment to eliminate the income tax.
Link in my nick. http://www.apttax.com/
But, but, what are we ever gonna do with all the newly unemployed tax accountants and other government agents whose very (lucrative) livelihood depends on the system as it's currently structured? Personally, I love the idea. Pragmatically, I think I will not live so long to see its implementation.
Posted by: Voter/ConsumerUnit#985731 at October 16, 2015 10:07 AM (pxwEr)
81 - Trump is continuing to demonstrate that he is doing what the RNC will not do.
Posted by: Alfred E Neuman at October 16, 2015 10:07 AM (cgxNI)
Israel News Flash ILNewsFlash
BREAKING PHOTOS Palestinian terrorist who stabbed an IDF soldier near #Hebron was posing as a photojournalist.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (iQIUe)
"The media is vicious. You need our help or you will lose!"
Things like this explode the myth that the media is invincible.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (yvYC/)
Israel News Flash ILNewsFlash
BREAKING PHOTOS Palestinian terrorist who stabbed an IDF soldier near #Hebron was posing as a photojournalist.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (iQIUe)
Killing the Jews the media won't kill.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Trump Muad-Dib at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (m1pMI)
Not. Rocket. Surgery.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (mf5HN)
*raises hand*
I would like the widget.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (JtwS4)
That is the GOPe.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Except in their case, we don't.
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 16, 2015 10:09 AM (O2oQ5)
But they'll totes fight to reform Medicare, cut taxes, etc.
This is essentially what we are being led to believe. They think we are that stupid.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:09 AM (0LHZx)
Yeah, the rest of the GOP dopes would have countered with 4 hours.
Carly should just go away and take the rest of the drain circlers with her.
Oh and I thought per that twink Lowry, that Carly cut Trumps balls off?
The Conservstive commentariet industrial complex have no clue - zero!
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 10:09 AM (Dk/hK)
Posted by: Perspector Pete at October 16, 2015 10:09 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (gf8BH)
I couldn't see the video and made an assumption. If it is an Hamas propaganda piece, I'm glad I missed it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:09 AM (St6BJ)
This is what mystifies me about the GOPe.
Sure the CoC has money, but if your concern is getting re-elected, how many actual votes does the CoC cast?
Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 16, 2015 10:09 AM (4nmNX)
http://www.e2046.com/product/Godzilla+Roaring+Version/21090/
Or maybe?
http://www.e2046.com/product/23451
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:10 AM (CrfL3)
newly unemployed tax accountants and other government agents Posted by: Voter/ConsumerUnit#985731
Maybe, just maybe, they can find something to do that will actually be, I dunno... productive?
Posted by: Dang at October 16, 2015 10:10 AM (2oWD2)
I saw the Drain Circlers open for Circle Jerk in '95 at the Limelight.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:10 AM (St6BJ)
"Zhoolie, you nut, I want to talk to Huma..."
"There is no Huma. Only Zuul."
This would account for so much.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 16, 2015 10:10 AM (xq1UY)
Posing?
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:10 AM (evdj2)
I have no misplaced beliefs that he's some old-school, rock-ribbed conservative. He is, however, a man owned by no one who will say what he thinks and they can all be damned.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 16, 2015 10:11 AM (LA7Cm)
The APT looks pretty good. Much simpler than the Fair Tax.
I'm going to study it more.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 10:11 AM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:11 AM (St6BJ)
I think everyone but Trump has underestimated Trump. I know I did at first. I thought he was running because he was bored and wanted to try something different out. But at this point I am beginning to think he is serious and going to go the whole way.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 10:11 AM (iONHu)
I think it's the fact that if the CoC gives you money, you can eat steak every night.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:11 AM (yvYC/)
Trump and Carson said "fuck you, you need us, we don't need you." every other campaign just whined "we didn't agree to any of this, we must protest." As to taking any actual action, No. Except to bash Trump and Carson after.
Posted by: traye at October 16, 2015 10:11 AM (K/7I5)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (D5hxK)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (evdj2)
And probably the amount of money internally by the IRS to get that extra $200 was a lot more than $200 I sent in.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (0LHZx)
Milky Virus will take on the role of Dana the Gatekeeper in the Ghostbusters reboot?
"That's not milk Peter."
"Now you tell me Egon."
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (CrfL3)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (LA7Cm)
This has gone far beyond what I expected.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (9Fc79)
I'm still trying to figure out the rocket surgery behind the RNC letting the networks set the rules for the debate rather than the RNC doing so.
Posted by: alexthechick
From what I've read, there are FEC and IRS regs that requires the separation, but the GOP has been stepping all over that line, by taking credit for the debates and strong arming to get Fiorina on the main stage.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (kdS6q)
That would leave only 105% of the black vote for the Dems in NYC and Phila.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 10:13 AM (k8tEg)
Posted by: traye at October 16, 2015 10:11 AM (K/7I5)
"The Corleones wanna buy me out?! Hey, you don't buy me out, I buy YOU out!"
- - Moe Greene Trump
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:13 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 10:13 AM (D/1P4)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:14 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2015 10:14 AM (D5hxK)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (D5hxK)
20% of the Black vote added to the base is enough to win an election, and handily.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:14 AM (St6BJ)
Just before 9/11 when the Taliban posed as I think French journalists. And blew up the Northern Alliance commander with their SEMTEX camcorder.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:14 AM (CrfL3)
- great white scotsman
Liberal and Republican is not mutually exclusive.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:14 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: mugiwara at October 16, 2015 10:14 AM (D5hxK)
And therein lies the appeal for me.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:14 AM (St6BJ)
She will... after Super Tuesday, and after she pledges all of her delegates to Jeb.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 10:15 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Phligdorp at October 16, 2015 10:15 AM (Pn0FW)
Didn't three Al Jazeera "journalists" get convicted in the UK recently? They've been doing this for decades - radicals working as contract journalists, using western media to spread their photoshopped pics and fake stories?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 10:15 AM (NOIQH)
That would leave only 105% of the black vote for the Dems in NYC and Phila.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 10:13 AM (k8tEg)
Wrong, but accurate.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:16 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (0LHZx)
By the way, they will notify your state. If you have a state income tax you will be getting one from there too. Start putting money aside today.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2015 10:16 AM (3pRHP)
Polls are different than turnout. As a fellow NYer I'm sure you saw the dancing, celebratory mood of the black electorate in 08 and 12. If Trump polled 20% of the black vote that would probably translate to a single digit level of actual voting that way; its just history.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 10:16 AM (k8tEg)
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 16, 2015 10:17 AM (LA7Cm)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2015 10:16 AM (3pRHP)
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My state has no income tax. We get raped on sales and property tax to make up for it. But it does make life easier every April.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:17 AM (0LHZx)
Three journalists for the English-language Al-Jazeera news organisation have been convicted on terror charges in an Egyptian court and each sentenced to seven years in prison.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 10:17 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:17 AM (GERXL)
It barely matters if he's a conservative, so long as he opens a whole large enough for conservatives to charge in and get the job done.
Opportunity, my dear Horde, opportunity.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:18 AM (9krrF)
I mean, yes, there's some their sandbox their rules but there's no way in hell the DNC would even contemplate such a thing.
This is pure talking out my ass but I wonder if this isn't something of a disconnect between people who have actually worked outside of politics and those who have not. Trump, most particularly, understands that the power rests with the person who has what the other person wants. If the other person wants the widget more than the person who owns the widget, the widget owner has the upper hand.
Not. Rocket. Surgery.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 16, 2015 10:04 AM (mf5HN)
Well for one, the RNC is desperate to the media's girlfriend, so whatever they say and its "Thank you sir may I have another.
The DNC is the media's boss so for them its the media saying "Yes boss right away boss!"
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:18 AM (zt+N6)
"Trump and Carson don't have the policy chops to answer questions for three hours. That is why they wanted the format changed. That part is ALSO true."
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (ljZD2)
Incorrect.
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:18 AM (MQEz6)
Curious how often their interests coincide.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 10:18 AM (O7MnT)
Polls are different than turnout. As a fellow NYer I'm sure you saw the dancing, celebratory mood of the black electorate in 08 and 12. If Trump polled 20% of the black vote that would probably translate to a single digit level of actual voting that way; its just history.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 10:16 AM (k8tEg)
Recall the lack of enthusiasm of the Reagan Democrats in '08 and '12 - that would be the same very large group of people that the neither the GOP nor the Democrats want.
Say the right things about, jobs, coal and you're unbeatable. Fraud notwithstanding.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (St6BJ)
It would not surprise me to find out there are a lot of ex-Blackwater types lurking around his events.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (9krrF)
A growing economy would accommodate accountants. As for the unemployed gubmint drones, well, tough shit. I'd enjoy seeing them suffer.
It's long past time to end this "government of the bureaucrat, by the bureaucrat, and for the bureaucrat crap." IIRC, the American government is now the world's largest single employer.
I wish Teh Donald would say what we all know to be true: our government was never intended to be this large. Or expensive. Or intrusive.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (LUgeY)
Would this strategy work for a President? Of course not.
Uh, look at the present occupant of the office and the token opposition that rests in the submissive puppy position.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (oVJmc)
****
Well, there's only one chance in 57 that you will get audited.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (ljZD2)
________
Yes by all means let's elect someone who has been in DC for 50 years and has "policy chops".
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (0LHZx)
If Jeb makes it there. He's pissed through most of his warchest for 6% of the electorate. He has his Super PACs, but I gotta figure the donors have realized what a loser he is.
I think Rubio get anointed by the GOPe soon.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (yvYC/)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 10:19 AM (D/1P4)
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Yes, I'm sure I'm the only one who has ever done that. Like ever.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (0LHZx)
At this stage, Trump and Carson can do no wrong.
EXCEPT, if they backtrack or apologize on any core issue that got them to where they are now.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (8HTq1)
What are we talking about here? About an extra hour of free tv-time for the entire Republican Party. Do people actually realize how much money would have to be spent to buy something like that? And Donald Trump, this idiot, gets rid of it just because he cant be bothered to do his homework on the details of policy. And he is supposed to be some sort of hero for that? Unbelievable! The same is true of that amateur Ben Carson.
I dont think Governor Bush and Senator Rubio were desperate at all, but they were ready to fight on any battlefield no matter the circumstances. Thats confidence and thats commendable!
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (uanRy)
She will... after Super Tuesday, and after she pledges all of her delegates to Jeb.
Posted by: V the K
What delegates? She's unlikely to hit the minimums to get any delegate out of the proportional states and as for the winner take all states -- nada.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (kdS6q)
If the GOPe folks had the "policy chops" to woo the electorate, Trump and Carson wouldn't be here.
Think about that.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (9krrF)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/15/europe/polar-bear-migrants/index.html
Meanwhile Sweden is parking many such immigrants far north at a ski resort where the temperatures drop to -35F.
http://www.thelocal.se/20151014/lapland-ski-complex-to-be-next-refugee-hub
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (CrfL3)
http://tinyurl.com/oqsf4ua
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM (BZAd3)
Gots to keep the gravy train running in D.C. Gots to.
Posted by: Ricardo Kill at October 16, 2015 10:21 AM (LA7Cm)
Oh yeah. Sebastian Junger had either just interviewed him or was about to. He seemed like a good guy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:21 AM (JtwS4)
The old "treat him like shit so the masses support him" trick. Second time I've fallen for that this month.
Posted by: maxwell smart at October 16, 2015 10:21 AM (m1pMI)
You seem to miss the rather salient point; the network caved to their demands. They won.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:21 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:21 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:22 AM (zt+N6)
The DNC is the media's boss so for them its the media saying "Yes boss right away boss!"
Just compare how they treat Hillary (and are treated BY Hillary) vs. the GOP. They hate the GOP to begin with, and then the GOP's attitude just breeds more contempt.
Meanwhile, Hillary gets to dictate everything, no doubt down the list of questions (you know she vetted them, or even contributed some) and the amount of time she gets to speak. And then there's that keeping the media encircled in a rope at campaign event business.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 10:22 AM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Dan Rather at October 16, 2015 10:22 AM (9Fc79)
We all have to take some kind of liberties, the difference being if we go to jail for them is it a country club or a pound-you-in-the-ass type.
Posted by: jwest at October 16, 2015 10:22 AM (Zs4uk)
I'm not sure ¡Jeb! is actually conscious enough to be desperate.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:23 AM (evdj2)
164
So, you are ok with the liars, cheats and thieves that currently control the political landscape, cheat us, steal from us, and lie like rugs at election time.
Whatev
Wrong think!
Posted by: Oh hell, it's my turn at October 16, 2015 10:23 AM (P0d70)
I'm still waiting for polling on this too. I've heard and seen anecdotal but I've been burned too often to rely solely on that.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:23 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:23 AM (evdj2)
Moo moo's of the disgusting "everyone cheats" mentality.
Posted by: Lauren at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (bYGAR)
So Breitbart's version of the flaming skull is a flashing headline. Okay.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Fritz at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:20 AM
This is the stupidest stupidest thing anyone will read today. They were ready to roll over and have the media pet their belly.
Posted by: traye at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (K/7I5)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (9Fc79)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (GERXL)
If he's 'middling' then I'm the wealthiest man in the world.
CNN has decided this is to be a Bush/Clinton election.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (sI4OA)
Thank you for providing the official RNC line, Baghdad Begonia.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:21 AM (St6BJ)
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Won what? To get rid of free, otherwise expensive air-time? Wow, what an impressive victory.
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (uanRy)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:25 AM (GERXL)
Posted by: maxwell smart at October 16, 2015 10:25 AM (m1pMI)
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:25 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (CrfL3)
*raises hand*
I would like the widget.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (JtwS4)
I believe we can come to a mutually satisfactory agreement.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (mf5HN)
Also, it's not really a debate. But that's another subject.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: homer simpson at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (m1pMI)
How is the Dem media treating Trump like shit? If they wanted him out they would play up his support for Kelo, they would repeatedly show his interviews where he says he is more democrat than republican or that the economy does better under a Democrat. They wouldn't give him the free coverage to fire up the right. They don't want the angry base to abandon him. It's working.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (D/1P4)
Genuine idiot or parody of one?
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:25 AM (MQEz6)
Either way, they really suck at it.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (zt+N6)
Can't decide it it's parody or troll.
Funny this a.m., though - sounds more like Mary than Hector.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (NOIQH)
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Governor Bush? LOL. I don't think I've ever seen anyone online refer to him as "Governor" Bush. It's usually Jeb, sometimes Bush. Only an itern working for the campaign would call him Governor Bush.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:23 AM (evdj2)
Sometimes interesting substances those guys have. Get you in touch with force, these substances will. Yeeeeeesssss.
Posted by: Shecky Yoda at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (GERXL)
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (mf5HN)
In. All. The. Ways.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Hitler learns of iJeb!'s poll numbers at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (uanRy)
Another point you miss; CNBC needs them more than they need CNBC. The format is a fucking snoozer as well as good at silencing candidates such as Cruz, Fiorina and the erstwhile Walker.
The story is that Trump/Carson kicked the media's ass. You may not like it but that sits well with the electorate. It's a win, no matter how you slice it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2015 10:27 AM (St6BJ)
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at October 16, 2015 10:28 AM (T1Jm0)
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 10:28 AM (Dk/hK)
Compare and contrast that to Rubio's false bravado, where he isn't necessarily as dependent on free media as he has a bigger bank than Trump, yet doesn't exactly what the media masters demand.
Posted by: Tom In A Truck at October 16, 2015 10:28 AM (nWeof)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:29 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Hitler learns of iJeb!'s poll numbers at October 16, 2015 10:29 AM (evdj2)
*raises hand*
I would like the widget.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:08 AM (JtwS4)
I believe we can come to a mutually satisfactory agreement.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (mf5HN)
Ummm, should we leave the room?
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 16, 2015 10:29 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Lauren at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (bYGAR)
__________
Hate to break the news Lauren, everyone kind of does cheat. Or have you never gone 68 in a 65 zone? You've never crossed where there was no sidewalk? You never took 11 items in the 10 & Under line?
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:29 AM (0LHZx)
Jeb and Rubio have what the establishment consider "policy chops:" i.e. They both favor amnesty, foreign interventions, and tax reform that favors crony capitalists.
"Policy chops."
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 10:29 AM (O7MnT)
modern man seeks consensus, compromise and approval.
classic man seeks victory.
When modern mancontests againstclassic man, modern man loses at least a little.
The democrats are, believe it or not, run by classic style types who seek victory not accommodation. The establishment republicans seek to be liked because that's their primary value.That's whyGOP stink at negotiation, they think they are negotiating with a reasonable counter party and they are not. Its why, if we let a modern become president, we will lose tofascist Islam.
Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2015 10:29 AM (xVRrG)
Trump isn't burning through campaign cash like all the other candidates = what he could do for this country is YUGE.
Trump is not a globalist.
Trump is not GOPe surrender monkey.
Trump 2016 - if you want America back.
Posted by: ouch at October 16, 2015 10:29 AM (40IrJ)
It's 3 hours of media "gotcha" time.
Just look at the questions asked at the first two - more about "Tell me why that guy sucks" vs. "Tell me how you would address important issue X".
Tweets from media people like Megan Kelly bragging that (paraphrasing) "someone would be going down at the debate tonight" only confirm it is seen as a MSM target shooting exercise.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (NOIQH)
Economic meltdown or SMOD...
A bunch of useless theta male Swedes protesting injustice get a visit by the Swedish police because of VagISIL. The police make a mistake. And the hipster useless idiots don't blame VagISIL but their fellow Swedes for being 'small minded.'
http://www.thelocal.se/20151012/swedish-beard-crew-loved-isis-mixup
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (CrfL3)
I'd be skeptical of it. I think ten percent would be a ceiling.
BUT, the likely nominees on the Democrat side are old white people, and Trump is a pop culture guy, so he might get black LIVs.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (yvYC/)
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: doubtful at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (ZtFr+)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Karl Rove at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (evdj2)
The two guy leading the pack by a wide margin do not need publicity the way the other losers do.
And Trump is in a class by himself when it comes to getting his face out there.
The man is filling stadiums and large halls wherever he goes.
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 10:31 AM (Dk/hK)
Posted by: steevy at October 16, 2015 10:31 AM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:31 AM (CrfL3)
Posted by: yoptvoimat at October 16, 2015 10:31 AM (Q4sxC)
Posted by: zmdavid at October 16, 2015 10:31 AM (yTr2T)
Posted by: Oh hell, it's my turn at October 16, 2015 10:31 AM (P0d70)
Just to send a message. Because they don't seem to hear it now.
Posted by: PJ at October 16, 2015 10:32 AM (cHuNI)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (yvYC/)
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McCain and Romney both got 5% I think. So we have nowhere to go but up really. In states like Ohio getting an extra 5% of the black vote could be enough to swing the race.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:32 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:32 AM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 10:32 AM (Dk/hK)
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^
The GOP is hell-bent on emulating losing strategies. They want everyone to run like northeastern Republicans (where the party is all but dead) instead of southern Republicans (where the party is thriving).
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 10:32 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:33 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:32 AM (iQIUe)
So I'm guessing Jihadi John has some...issues.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 16, 2015 10:33 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2015 10:33 AM (9Fc79)
Posted by: TB at October 16, 2015 10:33 AM (YMEYJ)
After all, they are running as Republican candidates and so they should be working with those who are in charge of the Republican party to advance the Republican party, not their own agendas.
All this proves is that the RNC is right to be suspicious that they aren't actually Republicans and don't have the Republican party's best interests at heart.
Posted by: Nerium at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mf5HN)
For Rubio especially (less so Jeb) no time in front of a camera is bad time in front of a camera.
Drew is bitching they're bad negotiators but CNBC has something they want: Free press. They have nothing CNBC wants so they have no leverage power.
Trump has something CNBC wants: Ratings pull.
CNBC really doesn't have anything Trump wants (he gets free press without them.)
Upper hand: Trump. Carson really just piggybacked on Trumps bargaining power.
There are lots of reasons to fault Rubio and Bush, I'm not sure deciding to fold on the issue of opening and closing statements is really high on that list.
Posted by: tsrlbke PhD(c), rogue bioethicist at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (tM4uk)
I have yet to hear that anybody really thinks either Carson or Trump can hold forth knowledgeably on any kind of policy questions, good or bad.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:33 AM (ljZD2)
____________
Dumbass,
You know who has a lot of "foreign policy experience"? Hillary. So once again go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (0LHZx)
****
Who said anything about removal? I'm talking enhancement!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
You could still be right about him being bored. he is doing this because he CAN. he gets publicity because he is adept at obtaining it. Every penny he raises has double the effect because he could switch to self funding at any time. he is a strakly different person from the rest, and acts accordingly.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (326rv)
That raise will just leap out of the accounting office into your pocket.
NOT!
And Gabe: get used to a President Trump. You're going to hear it more and more.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 10:35 AM (Xo1Rt)
And he'd potentially be the only 'Republican' that would be able to withstand the howls of the media as government budgets and departments get slashed.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 16, 2015 10:35 AM (AC0lD)
Except to the degree that it represents the "go along to get along" mindset that dominates the GOP-Echo.
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 10:35 AM (O7MnT)
http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/pyjama-japonais-wtf/
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:35 AM (CrfL3)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:35 AM (oVJmc)
After all, they are running as Republican candidates and so they should be working with those who are in charge of the Republican party to advance the Republican party, not their own agendas.
All this proves is that the RNC is right to be suspicious that they aren't actually Republicans and don't have the Republican party's best interests at heart.
Posted by: Nerium at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mf5HN)
___________
RNC: Everyone, surrender at once
Trump/Carson: Fuck that we're not surrendering
RNC: See, these guys aren't goo Republicans
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:35 AM (0LHZx)
We can only hope it's so, Joe.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Nerium at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mf5HN)
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Yes, exactly! Its incredibly selfish and it hurts the party. But I think thats what Donald Trump is out to do anyway. He is definitely a Clinton plant.
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (uanRy)
to withstand the howls of the media as government budgets and
departments get slashed.
Assuming that's what he'd do, of course.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr.
*****
Coffee ==> keyboard
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (mvenn)
Also, it's not really a debate. But that's another subject.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:26 AM (9krrF)
Yep. None of these crapfests are debates. They're Q&A sessions.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Nerium at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mf5HN)
Yeah! They should be more subservient; like AtC.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2015 10:37 AM (326rv)
As opposed to Jeb Bush who cares most about the interests of hot Mexican brides and the Chamber of Commerce.
Posted by: Hillary's alcoholic depression at October 16, 2015 10:37 AM (T1Jm0)
http://www.ufunk.net/en/gadgets/pyjama-japonais-wtf/
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:35 AM (CrfL3)
I thought nothing could ever ruin Japanese schoolgirls for me. I was wrong.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:37 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Grump928(c) exits backwards bowing at October 16, 2015 10:37 AM (evdj2)
Could it be they've formed a side team with whoever doing better gets the help of the other?
Trump/Carson 2016
As of right now their combined percentages is well over 50% in some places.
Might not gather all the Black vote like Obama but will surely get more than a GOP candidate usually does and that's besides the appeal Trump already has shown for Blacks.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 10:37 AM (Xo1Rt)
And you imbecile fucks still don't get why Jeb is in last place.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:37 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (mvenn)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Shohei-Otomo-18.jpg
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (CrfL3)
****
Who said anything about removal? I'm talking enhancement!
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mvenn)
That would be "widger" not "widget."
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (oVJmc)
I like to link the ONT of the last election night when most of us thought the GOPe would do something. After years of teasing from people that actually HAVE the power to do something but don't, might as well go for the long shot.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Nerium at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mf5HN)
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Yes, exactly! Its incredibly selfish and it hurts the party. But I think thats what Donald Trump is out to do anyway. He is definitely a Clinton plant.
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (uanRy)
Mic. Fucking. Drop. Bitch.
Posted by: alexthechick - sometimes it's too easy at October 16, 2015 10:39 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (mvenn)
You're a fucking wild man!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:39 AM (2Ojst)
Well to begin with, the boundaries are shit. Also, the RNC favored strategy is shit. On top of that, the preferred talking points are shit. The preferred candidates may also be shit, but given the rest of the shit, I doubt it's even possible to tell.
So yeah, I don't see following party instructions to take a dive to be all that much a bad thing. Quite the contrary.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:39 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:33 AM (ljZD2)
____________
Dumbass,
You know who has a lot of "foreign policy experience"? Hillary. So once again go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew
Ya know who else has chops? That Kaisch guy. He's got the fiscal savvy of Huckabee and the religious grounding of Trump......wait.
Posted by: I blow my daddy at October 16, 2015 10:39 AM (326rv)
http://tinyurl.com/omaelrj
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 10:39 AM (BZAd3)
You know who has a lot of "foreign policy experience"? Hillary. So once again go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (0LHZx)
*raises hand*
*points at bannination policy in sidebar*
*orders Bourbon*
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:39 AM (JtwS4)
Sure they can. They already have.
Build the wall, armed citizens protect each other from terrorists and tyranny, PP is a murder factory, ObamaCare must be erased.
Both men have spoken on these matters.
What do you want them to discuss? Paul Ryan's ten-year plan to balance the budget?
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:39 AM (MQEz6)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:40 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:40 AM (oVJmc)
Bill's or Hillary's? Because I've been getting a really, REALLY odd vibe about that lately...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:40 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 16, 2015 10:40 AM (4ErVI)
That is pretty much the entire appeal, such as it is, of Trump, isn't it? The 14 year old, mad at the unfairness of it all when Daddy tells him to do his homework, slamming his bedroom door and yelling (inside his head of course), "fuck you!!"
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (ljZD2)
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Aww poor little Jeb intern is upset that someone said a meanie to him. Don't worry I'm sure your helicopter mommy will fly in and kiss your boo boo.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:41 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy
I like how he wields a sharpened Bible in one hand and a payout/pander to the medicaid mob with the other......wait.
Posted by: I blow my daddy at October 16, 2015 10:41 AM (326rv)
This is pure talking out my ass but I wonder if this isn't something of a disconnect between people who have actually worked outside of politics and those who have not.
For sure there is, we learn not only from formal education but form experience. So if you are in a conflict profession you learn things like negotiation. Awful lot of negotiation in real estate and property development. Somebody like Obama, or Rubio, who basically have been political animals, they know how to give a speech or read a teleprompter, but they haven't really done that much negotiation. Bought some cars, a house or two but not like it was their business and they were doing it everyday. I think Regan learned to negotiate because he was the head of a union. It's one of the reasons I think that the worst possible candidates for president are academics. They have no concept of the real world, and frankly most of them aren't interested in the real world either.
Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2015 10:42 AM (xVRrG)
fixed it for ya
or did you WANT nuclear armed religious savages, a constant invasion of wage depressors and welfare clients from the south, and an ever increasing debt level?
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 10:42 AM (A9KzJ)
I'd prefer one of them crack open an Argentine or Chilean history book, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2015 10:43 AM (X6fMO)
Of course they can. Carson is smarter than any of the career politicians. Trump is more successful and demonstrably a better negotiator than any of them. Neither thing can be discounted because they haven't memorized the bullet points that Jeb or Rubio have.
Jeb knows nothing, but he's rehearsed by his handlers. Ditto Rubio. They're candidates run by consultant teams. When they get off script, they sputter crap like Asians are the real immigration problem or women don't need healtcare.
Both Trump and Rubio are highly knowledgeable in some fields and not in others. I put more faith in their ability to learn than in Jeb or Rubio's ability to be competent.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:43 AM (yvYC/)
Posted by: Karl Rove at October 16, 2015 10:30 AM (evdj2)
Has there been a Downfall video made about Karl Rove's campaigning?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2015 10:43 AM (3pRHP)
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Shohei-Otomo-7.jpg
What do you think Bandersnatch?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 16, 2015 10:43 AM (CrfL3)
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (WDySP)
watching Donald Trump's Hair confound all the talking heads. The attacks
on him are rather tame, what few there are.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 09:56 AM (LUgeY)
It just shows what mediocrities there are in GOPe and the media. They're literally so used to controlling everything that they don't know what to do when the wind blows from a different direction. One track minds and all that. Which is exactly what we want in leadership: people who can't think outside of the box (sarc).
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (4ErVI)
No rain but 99% humidity. How can that be? Sheesh!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (iQIUe)
After all, they are running as Republican candidates and so they
should be working with those who are in charge of the Republican party
to advance the Republican party, not their own agendas.
All this proves is that the RNC is right to be suspicious that they
aren't actually Republicans and don't have the Republican party's best
interests at heart.
Posted by: Nerium at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mf5HN)
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I'm not actually a Republican and I don't have the Republican party's best interest at heart either. I'm a conservative. The Republican Party can all buy a one-way ticket to East St. Louis for all I care.
Sorry Mallamutt.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:40 AM (zt+N6)
Yeah, but now I have to come up with a new sock nic.
Oh, the horror.
Posted by: alexthechick - sometimes it's too easy at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Drider at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (DNFK1)
If by Daddy you mean "the RNC" and by "tells him to do his homework" you mean "tells them to suck it up while we pass amnesty and obamatrade and reauthorize the ex-im bank because that's what our Big Donors" want, but don't expect us to do anything for you because we don't have the votes and frankly we don't even like you."
Posted by: V the K at October 16, 2015 10:45 AM (O7MnT)
Posted by: Kreplach at October 16, 2015 10:45 AM (Dk/hK)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 10:45 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Insomniac
*****
You think that's wild. Don't tell anybody...
***looks around furtively***
... but last year I tagged back after this other dude called "No Tag Backs".
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:45 AM (mvenn)
What's the 'homework' exactly in your tortured analogy? Jeb?
We're not the ones advocating for eternal debt ceiling hikes. The side living in fantasy land is the GOPe.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:45 AM (yvYC/)
Posted by: zmdavid at October 16, 2015 10:02 AM (yTr2T)
The GOPe was angry that day, my friend... like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli.
Posted by: jwpaine, otherized for your protection at October 16, 2015 10:45 AM (wKcQA)
Posted by: Alfred E Neuman at October 16, 2015 10:46 AM (cgxNI)
Posted by: Tom In A Truck at October 16, 2015 10:46 AM (nWeof)
But Trump says he only wants 2 hrs instead of 3 hrs and it's holy shit, I can't believe the nerve of this guy !!!!ty
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:46 AM (0LHZx)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 10:46 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:46 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2015 10:43 AM (X6fMO)
No. Not really.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2015 10:47 AM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Anna Puma
I'm not Bander, but I agree. Seems like a match.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 16, 2015 10:47 AM (/Ho8c)
We have to do an amnesty or we're spoiled children. The people stamping their feet and demanding amnesty are the adults.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 16, 2015 10:47 AM (yvYC/)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:47 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (ljZD2)
They have the sense to know that a three hour debate means another hour for the idiot moderators to ask if Nevada should ban it's cathouses because they are dangerous to NBA athletes, or does Trump feel bad that his ties were made in China, or is Carson "authentic".
Posted by: Jen the original at October 16, 2015 10:47 AM (rFdsN)
It thinks its one of the reasons Rubio got rolled. He just didn't have the experience necessary to see the potential of a doublecross and protect himself against it.
Frankly they set him up cripple him politically and it worked. Things happen for a reason people.
Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2015 10:47 AM (xVRrG)
And if the new liars upset the old liars for a time that's what I'll take because I'm not getting anything else otherwise regardless.
Posted by: Tom In A Truck at October 16, 2015 10:48 AM (nWeof)
Of course it will. Not for all things and at all times, but there are definitely circumstances where it pays to stake out a position and then stand you ground. Part of that includes knowing when you have the power to force the other side to capitulate. When you have enough allies to cover your back. But a president has an awful lot of power at his disposal and the ability to reward those who back him and punish those who oppose him.
First, you must be willing to fight.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (IN7k+)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:47 AM (oVJmc)
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The Jeb intern thinks of the GOP as the daddy in the sense of "who's your daddy", if you know what I'm saying.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (0LHZx)
Of course we need amnesty, you malodorous Trumpkins. Have you tried to hire a gardener or a nanny lately? We simply could not get on without imported undocumented labor.
Posted by: The GOP-Echo at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (O7MnT)
Oh, the horror.
Posted by: alexthechick - sometimes it's too easy at October 16, 2015 10:44 AM (mf5HN)
At least you didn't get banned doing it this time.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (mvenn)
_______
Monster.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (0LHZx)
I've always wondered what Jesus' middle name was when people use this. Do you know? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (GERXL)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (GERXL)
Haploid.
(I've hoarded that joke for a decade)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 16, 2015 10:50 AM (3pRHP)
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When I look at your hash, my mind registers "urinary". Sorry, it just does.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (dFi94)
I keep expecting to see MFM'ers unload on Trump and for that to reduce his polling numbers, but so far I've been pleasantly surprised. They don't seem to know what to do with him. Maybe all his years doing reality TV have something to do with it.
I am entertained.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (LUgeY)
You know who has a lot of "foreign policy experience"? Hillary. So once again go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (0LHZx)
****
Maet asked Thunder B to take a time out for essentially this.
He's probably in Amsterdam getting freaky though so you're lucky.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (mcm0N)
There's your daily tip. Can you spot the one flaw?
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (9Fc79)
Posted by: Lincolntf at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (mvenn)
I've always wondered what Jesus' middle name was when people use this. Do you know? ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (GERXL)
Hieronymus
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:52 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:52 AM (evdj2)
I rinsed.
But I didn't repeat
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:51 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:52 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (zt+N6)
I know right!
*plots*
Posted by: alexthechick - sometimes it's too easy at October 16, 2015 10:52 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:52 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 10:53 AM (GERXL)
they would play up his support for Kelo, they would repeatedly show his
interviews where he says he is more democrat than republican or that the
economy does better under a Democrat. They wouldn't give him the free
coverage to fire up the right. They don't want the angry base to abandon
him. It's working.
.
.
.I disagree, the LIV's don't even know what Kelo is and even if they did, they don't care. Every time Trump opens his mouth the MSM parses everything he utters for anything that might resemble a gaffe and blares that 24/7 with headlines like "Trump insults Veterans has he crossed the line this time?....Trump stumbles on Foreign Policy again, will it cost him the nomination?". And they do this repeatedly.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 16, 2015 10:53 AM (iONHu)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:53 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:49 AM (mvenn)
In many ways, this is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:53 AM (2Ojst)
neurotic estrogenal energy
I hope you morons appropriately golf-clapped the boss for that one.
Posted by: DaveA at October 16, 2015 10:53 AM (DL2i+)
And after I caught her that one time, too...
/turns in Sock Detector card
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:53 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:21 AM (ljZD2)
Trump will pull in established Hispanics who don't want to compete with the flood of newcomers. Trump will pull 25%-35% of the Hispanic vote. That will be along the lines of historic norms.
BTW, W got a high Hispanic vote because he was part of the reason banks were giving out loans like candy to Hispanics.
You know nothing about blacks. Everyone is crying about how Trump isn't a conservative or Republican, that plays into him getting black votes. Also, ostentatious display of wealth isn't something shunned by the black community. I have not doubt black turnout will be low this time around. But I do think Trump can pull 15%-20% of that vote.
Posted by: WOPR at October 16, 2015 10:53 AM (LTDSy)
I see you have dropped the "no chops" angle and have switched back to they are scamming us.
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:54 AM (MQEz6)
"
And when the voting starts and they're the winners?
Posted by: Lauren at October 16, 2015 10:54 AM (bYGAR)
I've always wondered what Jesus' middle name was when people use this. Do you know? ;^)
Hymie, because Jew.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 16, 2015 10:54 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Tom In A Truck at October 16, 2015 10:54 AM (nWeof)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:55 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:56 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 10:56 AM (mvenn)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 10:56 AM (9krrF)
Yes. Yes it did.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:56 AM (2Ojst)
he had to...the "no chops" argument dies when the fact that the gope filth, the ones with supposed "chops" are a set of backstabbing turncoats, is so obvious
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 10:57 AM (A9KzJ)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (39g3+)
You tell me.
Posted by: mallfly the flightiest at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (qSIlh)
Who got toasted? I see the usual suspects still present.
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (evdj2)
The trumpet guy.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (2Ojst)
Who got toasted? I see the usual suspects still present.
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (evdj2)
SERPENTINE! SERPENTINE!
Posted by: alexthechick - sometimes it's too easy at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Grump928(c)
Dunno, but Moo Moo would be a likely suspect, since he kinda violated the new policy.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: CJ at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (9KqcB)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (/Ho8c)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (mcm0N)
Because hookers and weed?
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (2Ojst)
WTF?
Posted by: CJ
Yeah, same here. Which is one of the reasons I've been lurking less.
Another one is my employer expects me to do stuff occasionally. The nerve.
Posted by: Moderate Salami, weeping for our dead Republic at October 16, 2015 11:00 AM (/Ho8c)
Where's his leverage? He has no power over the Senate or how it does its job.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:00 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 16, 2015 10:59 AM (mcm0N)
Because hookers and weed?
Posted by: Insomniac a
And how can you go wrong with that?
And why am I hooked up to all of these tubes? Hello?
Posted by: lamar Odom at October 16, 2015 11:01 AM (326rv)
Posted by: The Senate at October 16, 2015 11:01 AM (cgxNI)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 11:01 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 11:02 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:02 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 16, 2015 11:02 AM (u5gzz)
You're confusing the Republican primary with the General. Trump has to win the primary first. That's exactly what the Dems want. Republican primary voters and the angry base that has given Trump the lead know exactly what Kelo is.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 11:02 AM (D/1P4)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 16, 2015 11:02 AM (mcm0N)
After the 2012 debate, with Barack Obama peremptorially ordering "Candy, get the transcript," where Candy Crowley of CNN shifted from alleged debate moderator to outright partisan transcript wielder, the GOP should have declared a permanent ban on CNN debates. No more of them ever.
Instead the GOP agreed to more CNN moderation for this year. With predictable results. The CNN "moderators" did their best to sow ugly dissension among the Republicans, and then on the Democratic side, gave Hillary gentle kid glove treatment to apparently include providing her with the question list in advance.
No more CNN _and_ no more Republican establishment, please.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:02 AM (noWW6)
The Argentinian and Peruvian military dictatorships were very bad. I don't know as much about Peru but in the Argentina one thousands of people just disappeared by governmental orders. Both of them contained a lot of oppression. How could we guarantee that military coup in the US would be any better?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 11:03 AM (GERXL)
Posted by: Dirty Randy at October 16, 2015 11:03 AM (jjaLl)
Who got toasted? I see the usual suspects still present.
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (evdj2)
The trumpet guy.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 10:58 AM (2Ojst
About time.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 11:04 AM (zt+N6)
Trump gets elected:
1) passed balanced budget amendment.
2) packs Supreme Court to 100
3) nukes Iran.
Mic drop and then resigns inside 100 days....
Posted by: David Ferguson at October 16, 2015 11:04 AM (3M2/4)
This isn't "Trump and Carson fighting the evil media".
This is "Trump and Carson fighting the other Republican candidates".
Shorter debate means less air time for the non-front-runners.
CNBC is, I'm sure, laughing the whole way. They want the spectacle of a Trump nomination and shortening their debate is one way to help achieve it.
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (lVU49)
Horatio. Where have you been?
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (k8tEg)
Harold.
Our Father, who art in Heaven, Harold be thy name.
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (eytER)
Instead the GOP agreed to more CNN moderation for this year. With predictable results. The CNN "moderators" did their best to sow ugly dissension among the Republicans, and then on the Democratic side, gave Hillary gentle kid glove treatment to apparently include providing her with the question list in advance.
Silly rabbit; that's how the grown ups show their "chops". You pathetic children don't understand this high level stuff.
Fortunatelyy trumpetdaddy is here to save us from ourselves.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (326rv)
And why am I hooked up to all of these tubes? Hello?
Posted by: lamar Odom at October 16, 2015 11:01 AM (326rv)
You would have been fine with hookers and weed. It's the viagra and blow that did you in.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Dan Stevens at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (Bcqod)
Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (eytER)
No, Harold's an angel. "Hark the Harold Angel Sings"
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (2Ojst)
That cocaine bump only lasts so long . . .
Posted by: THE Donald Trump at October 16, 2015 11:06 AM (OZmbA)
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2015 11:05 AM (326rv)
Not anymore. He's that pile of ashes where lightning from Mjolnir struck.
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 11:06 AM (zt+N6)
I mean, I expected it to happen one day, just didn't expect to actually see it.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 11:07 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 11:07 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: PJ at October 16, 2015 11:07 AM (cHuNI)
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:24 AM (uanRy)
Did any of the other candidates say they wanted a three hour debate?
Posted by: WOPR at October 16, 2015 11:07 AM (LTDSy)
They keep talking about the dangers of these OTC viagra substitutes without mentioning that he took 5x the recommended dose and mixed it with other drugs, including cocaine which would have also caused him to stroke out.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 16, 2015 11:07 AM (iQIUe)
That cocaine bump only lasts so long . . .
Posted by: THE Donald Trump at October 16, 2015 11:06 AM (OZmbA)
Long enough (Tee-hee)
Posted by: Melania at October 16, 2015 11:08 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: chemjeff at October 16, 2015 11:08 AM (lVU49)
Not anymore. He's that pile of ashes where lightning from Mjolnir struck.
Posted by: buzzion
Wait one; what did I miss? And me here the entire time.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2015 11:08 AM (326rv)
The biggest argument against a military coup is to look at the flag ranks of the U.S. military as presently constituted. Filled with hollow hacks, careerist cynics, and affirmative action nonentities.
Imagine a post-coup praetorian President Martin Dempsey.
NO thanks.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:08 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 16, 2015 11:08 AM (EIFYf)
I have an ad blocker so I don't see it but I can tell it's taking longer to load than before and comes to a complete halt about half way in so somethings either really going apeshit or is malformed and everyone's browser has to take time to figure out how to display it.
Eventually the internet will reach saturation and we'll finally have micropayments and bundle subscriptions.
I don't believe people will pay even small fees like 3-4 dollars a month unless a site provides something found no where else AND that's important to the subscriber.
That's why pay walls haven't worked. Sites need a system where a viewer and scan the post/articles and if there's one they want to see and then click to have a modest payment of .10 or so deducted from a special account that the subscriber maintains and pays the fees for.
That's close to how newspapers work. Lots of times people won't spend the .50 for a paper because no interesting news and other times they see something they want to read about so .50 is okay.
Have to make the value match the payment. Too many places overvalue their content.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 11:08 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 11:03 AM (GERXL)
======================
You can't. They are pushing the good ones out, and advancing the ones that fit the narrative and are amenable to the agenda.
One example: They have muzzled the military chaplains, limiting Christian speech while accomodating and welcoming Wiccans and muslims as pastors to the troops. In the name of diversity.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 11:08 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 11:09 AM (LUgeY)
arm-twist the Senate Repubs to use the nuclear option and not allow
filibusters?
Where's his leverage? He has no power over the Senate or how it does its job.
The Vice President is also President of the Senate. Usually he keeps a low profile and only makes news when there's a possibility of a tie, but Trump could pick someone to go over there and harass them from the chair all the time. Ted Cruz would be great for that because they already hate him.
Posted by: zmdavid at October 16, 2015 11:09 AM (yTr2T)
"Posted by: Nathen Vaguely Asian Chew at October 16, 2015 11:09 AM (H5bOq)
Of course they outsiders... The GOPe would have wilted like a lilly without water or sun.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:51 AM (qCMvj)
Since when is Trump a conservative?
Posted by: DRayRaven at October 16, 2015 11:09 AM (9YRwm)
suspicious that they aren't actually Republicans and don't have the
Republican party's best interests at heart.
Posted by: Nerium at October 16, 2015 10:34 AM (mf5HN)
Just, wow. Who gives a shit about the Republican Party?????? Their "best interests" are diametrically opposed to mine, so they can just fuck off.
Posted by: Dirty Randy at October 16, 2015 11:09 AM (jjaLl)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 11:09 AM (D/1P4)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 11:10 AM (F26eZ)
When Iran saw that "crazy" cowboy Reagan got elected. What did they do within minutes of his taking office? Released the hostages.
Yeah. Something to be said for being a wild card in the deck.
Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2015 11:10 AM (xVRrG)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 10:55 AM (evdj2)
Still the one I'd like to see win as well. But I'd vote for Trump, or Carson for that matter, without a second thought.
Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at October 16, 2015 11:11 AM (BZAd3)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 11:11 AM (2Ojst)
Absent any acceptable conservative to support in the race, I figure I am going to have to either:
(a) vote for Trump in the primary to give the GOP establishment fits, or
(b) cross over and vote for Sanders in the primary to give the Democratic establishment fits.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:11 AM (noWW6)
Everything you can criticize in Ted Cruz, Donald Trump is or has been until very recently when suddenly he sounds like a conservative - at least until the general election.
I'm with Drew here, the guy is a Bill Clinton-like candidate with charisma and no character or integrity, but he's great at causing trouble for the GOP establishment and kicking over the table that so desperately needs kicking. He's entertaining and at this point, thats the best we can hope for in the presidency.
Can you imagine the dry, awful misery of having president Sanders in there? Not only idiotic suicidal policies designed to obliterate the nation, but booorinngggg.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:11 AM (39g3+)
Frankly, if I were Trump, I might consider just pulling out anyway, with the comment that these debates are stupid, just a way to get ratings, and I don't want to waste time saying the same things. I wish to talk directly to the people. As a counter programming, he should just do an hour on Rachel Maddow just to troll the GOP.
Posted by: Liberal Hero at October 16, 2015 11:11 AM (gmeXX)
"Mitch, this is Donald. Do you want to help me get a real budget passed for the first time in a decade? Do you want me to look bad? Do you want Schumer to be running the show? Do you want me to go on the Howard Stern show and the Limbaugh program and talk about you being weak in the face of Democrat game playing? Let's get with the program, ok?... OK?!?!?"
Could work.
Posted by: mallfly the flightiest at October 16, 2015 11:11 AM (qSIlh)
Stood too close to the target?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 11:12 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Yo! at October 16, 2015 11:13 AM (GwIKd)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 11:12 AM (JtwS4)
I tell people to serpentine and I tell them but does anyone ever listen to me nooooooo.
Posted by: alexthechick - sometimes it's too easy at October 16, 2015 11:13 AM (mf5HN)
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 11:13 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:13 AM (gmeXX)
I am not sure that Sanders really is anti-establishment these days for the DNC.
Trump could pick someone to go over there and harass them from the chair all the time.
The Majority Leader runs the Senate, all the VP can do is hold the hammer and direct procedure according to the rules that the Majority Leader has set up.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:13 AM (39g3+)
I think that wing's actual last gasp came a LONG time ago, and this is more like one of the farts which a corpse occasionally emits from internal decay processes.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:14 AM (noWW6)
It's not just that it loads slow, after it loads it will eventually freeze "website not responsive due to long-running script."
That's a new problem. I blame the King Kong and/or Godzilla talk.
Posted by: CJ at October 16, 2015 11:14 AM (9KqcB)
I heard his kidneys shut down, which was probably from the crap in the 'herbal viagra'. I always wondered who would be stupid enough to buy that stuff.
Now I know. I also know who is stupid enough to take 5x the recommended dose. Cocaine's a helluva drug.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 11:15 AM (sI4OA)
Basically, they're only really useful if you get a decent moderator to hammer Hillary!. So far as I can tell, all the other nominees are out there doing morning television and taking hard questions.
But I don't watch all that much TV, so these are only my impressions.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 16, 2015 11:15 AM (F26eZ)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 11:16 AM (dFi94)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 11:16 AM (5buP8)
That only works if you assume McConnell has any shame or dignity, which I think at this point we can safely say is not the case.
It is possible, though, that's he's such a weak sister that any strong personality controls him, which Trump would definitely bring to the table.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:16 AM (39g3+)
I think he's the new heart of the DNC: raw, unadulterated socialism finally out in the open. I also think his alleged high polling numbers are faked.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 11:16 AM (LUgeY)
In, say, the 60s - maybe more recently - Webb could have been electable as either a Dem or a Repub.
Now he's basically a pariah in either party. I do think we've lost something there.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 16, 2015 11:16 AM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 11:16 AM (Xo1Rt)
I do not understand those words in that order.
It's what you shove up the chicken's butt, before putting on the grill, aka beer can chicken.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2015 11:17 AM (rCGpC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2015 11:17 AM (GERXL)
Ah, wonderful Javascript. Metaphors like herpes and kudzu come to mind.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:18 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 16, 2015 11:18 AM (EIFYf)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whales at October 16, 2015 11:18 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 11:18 AM (A9KzJ)
Which is an Alabama delicacy.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 11:18 AM (LUgeY)
Sad:
Mother's outrage as her twin sons are left in tears when pornographic audio is blasted over the loudspeakers at TARGET
Funny:
There is an inset picture of the mom. She looks like she could be in porn.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 11:19 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 16, 2015 11:19 AM (mvenn)
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Eh - I'm ok with the "extremes" fighting the battle. Let's have this ideological battle. Better to take sides - you don't want to be caught in no-man's land without knowing who is going to save you.
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:19 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: donna at October 16, 2015 11:19 AM (/dSsq)
They give talking heads, pundits, and political junkies something to talk about
They give ratings to the people that host the debates.
That's it. There's never yet been a debate in my lifetime that has swung anyone's votes. The people who most need to hear what the candidates say and get to know them have absolutely zero interest in any debate.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:20 AM (39g3+)
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:14 AM (noWW6)
Whenever libs say "Reagan could not get nominated today" I remind them that the tax-cutting,anti-communist JFK could not get nominated in 1984.
Posted by: CJ at October 16, 2015 11:20 AM (9KqcB)
"hey, mitch, gotta pass that [insert favorite idea for a bill]. Media's nattering on and on.
Oh by the way, you know that project you've been nurturing for a while now in Kentucky? The one with your name on it?
Yeah. I'm still up in the air over whether I'm gonna let that through.
Nice talking to you."
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 11:20 AM (Xo1Rt)
Ah, wonderful Javascript. Metaphors like herpes and kudzu come to mind.
Posted by: torquewrench<<
^This is why I had to ask for help here and found out about the NoScript add-on for Firefox. AOSHQ's Pixy or whoever develops the site needs testers as she/he adds ad scripts, etc., to find the hang culprit.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2015 11:20 AM (OZmbA)
It will interesting to see who you guys land on as the Republican who's finally pure enough to not be a RINO. In a world where Donald freaking Trump is celebrated for having balls and contrasted favorably to every other Republican save Ben Carson with that group labeled a 'RINO snoozefest' we should probably just shut down the conservative movement.
Purity!
Posted by: Rick at October 16, 2015 11:20 AM (4P0ds)
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I'm not sure you really went out on a limb there. Let her pick that lightweight.
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:20 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 11:21 AM (Xo1Rt)
Compare and contrast who is desperate for a deal no matter what and who simply says what they want and get it.
Would this strategy work for a President? Of course not.
Really? Trust me. It does with the GOP.
Posted by: King Obama at October 16, 2015 11:21 AM (/Vs1e)
As much as I think Trump is a ignorant asshat real estate agent, he is still multiple times better than Hillary.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 11:21 AM (D/1P4)
( ) Mildly concerned
( ) Concerned
(X) Highly concerned
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 11:21 AM (2Ojst)
Actually, make that "raw, unadulterated, anti-American, anti-capitalistic, anti-freedom, socialism."
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 16, 2015 11:22 AM (LUgeY)
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:22 AM (noWW6)
I see Hillary! is "hinting" that Her VP pick would be.... Julien Castro.... I've said it all along...
So she's starting to panic. She's out in 5 -6 days.
Posted by: simplemind at October 16, 2015 11:22 AM (xVRrG)
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:19 AM (gmeXX)
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Neither side is going to save us.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 16, 2015 11:22 AM (dFi94)
As is almost any of the other Candidates...
Posted by: donna at October 16, 2015 11:22 AM (/dSsq)
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 16, 2015 11:22 AM (6JL3d)
Posted by: Grump928(c) fugitive from justice at October 16, 2015 11:22 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whales at October 16, 2015 11:23 AM (uhftQ)
Housing and Urban development has never been a great springboard.
Posted by: Ghost of Jack Kemp at October 16, 2015 11:23 AM (sI4OA)
Going out on a limb here: For the next 100 years, there will not be a "D" Presidential ticket w/o a Castro, Diaz, Hernandez, or Martinez on it.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 11:23 AM (5buP8)
Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 16, 2015 11:23 AM (A9KzJ)
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You may have missed the new world. We now celebrate pretending to not have balls.
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:23 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: doddering retards in the Senate at October 16, 2015 11:24 AM (ZtFr+)
It's not Pixy's fault, believe it or not. It's whoever runs the ad server. They do jack squat to make sure what goes through their system isn't malware (by which I include code which is simply poorly written, because results) and are thus probably the biggest malware distributors on the net.
It's why I block the crap outta everything and hit the tip jar now and then. Not worth the trouble otherwise.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 11:24 AM (9krrF)
Posted by: Ghost of Jack Kemp at October 16, 2015 11:23 AM (sI4OA)
But He's got the most important thing necessary.... A Hispanic sur-name...
Posted by: donna at October 16, 2015 11:24 AM (/dSsq)
Posted by: John Boner in Assless Chaps at October 16, 2015 11:24 AM (u5gzz)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 16, 2015 11:11 AM (2Ojst)
Ah, I didn't catch that....I'm 20 minutes behind on this thread, not an optimal situation for posting cogent remarks... heh!
Posted by: Dirty Randy at October 16, 2015 11:24 AM (jjaLl)
Posted by: Grump928(c) is of the body. at October 16, 2015 11:24 AM (evdj2)
Heh. Numbers are funny. My cousin's ex-wife is an Austin Lib (TM) who is always crowing about Obama's accomplishments. You know the crap I'm talking about, Facebook posts that claim:
"Under Prez Obama, the Budget Deficit as a percentage of the Debt is the lowest it's ever been since Herbert Hoover" or whatever.
Yeah, funny how math works. If the debt is astronomical, then the deficit as a percentage of that would be tiny.
Posted by: Sphynx at October 16, 2015 11:25 AM (OZmbA)
As much as I think Trump is a ignorant asshat real estate agent, he is still multiple times better than Hillary.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 16, 2015 11:21 AM (D/1P4)
Because a 5% increase in the growth of government is better than a 10% increase in the gowth of government!
Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2015 11:25 AM (zt+N6)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 16, 2015 11:25 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:25 AM (gmeXX)
Dear Rick,
Thanks for your concern and thanks for stopping by just to tell us how concerned you are.
Please, in the future, feel free to just pass on by as we wouldn't want your concern for us to become a concern for you.
Thnx, NGFY
The crew at AoSHQ
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 11:25 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 11:25 AM (9krrF)
"Actually, make that "raw, unadulterated, anti-American, anti-capitalistic, anti-freedom, socialism." Posted by: BackwardsBoy"
Nailed it.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whales at October 16, 2015 11:26 AM (uhftQ)
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 16, 2015 11:26 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at October 16, 2015 11:26 AM (Yeaeo)
The GOP is so busy going after upstarts that it has little interest in exploiting the fact that Dems are now openly talking about Socialism.
Posted by: CJ at October 16, 2015 11:27 AM (9KqcB)
I didn't realize it was "Going Out On A Limb" day here at AoSHQ.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 11:27 AM (5buP8)
Take the family out to eat or hold a barbeque, enjoy the autumn evening, and thank God for the good times we've had as a country, and remember those good times when asking for strength to get through the really bad times that are swiftly coming.
World's a wreck, enjoy the peaceful days while they last.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at October 16, 2015 11:27 AM (6JL3d)
I only wish he would tell us more about how wonderful it is to be an immigrant in this Great Country.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2015 11:27 AM (TOk1P)
Folks, this Trump thing is gettin' very, very real. Not comparing the Donald to Ronaldus Maximus politically/ideologically, but the "vibe" coming both from him and his supporters is positively reminiscent of Reagan's runs. If there had been social media in those days.
As a long-ago Youth for Reagan, I got deja vu.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 16, 2015 11:27 AM (HMt16)
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Unfortunately, it has created a vacuum in the center-left realm that the GOPe hopes to fill.
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:28 AM (gmeXX)
So far, every time they've made whoopee with something he's said has boomeranged to his favor. They'll keep trying though.
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 11:28 AM (TxJGV)
Hymie, because Jew.
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Many years ago, four Jews were tired of driving around in hot cars in the summer time so they invented the car air conditioner. The only problem was they had to get Henry Ford, a notorious antisemite, to put it in his cars. They went to see ford and he was , "Ehhh, you Jews diamond merchants are trying to steal from me!" They said, "Look, we will give it to you for free but you have to put our names on it." So Ford did and to this day every car air conditioner has Low, Norm, Hi, and Max on it.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 11:29 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: TB at October 16, 2015 11:29 AM (YMEYJ)
Posted by: $18,153,723,461,662.37 at October 16, 2015 11:29 AM (evdj2)
Posted by: The Horde at October 16, 2015 11:29 AM (cgxNI)
And after the Tailhook brouhaha, Webb spoke out very forcefully about the witch hunt by lefty feministas which it had engendered, and how ludicrous it was to destroy the careers of many seasoned naval aviators, many of them combat veterans, and many not even directly implicated in Tailhook misbehaviors.
Which should further underscore how out of step Webb is with today's Democratic Party. A guy who thinks he can vocally decry the huge SJW wing, and still get a Presidential nomination from the Democrats?
In the words of the ancient Chinese sage, Na Ga Ha Pen.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 16, 2015 11:30 AM (noWW6)
Posted by: SH at October 16, 2015 11:30 AM (gmeXX)
Posted by: MTF at October 16, 2015 11:30 AM (TxJGV)
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And the vibe coming from Barack "Fourth Reich" Obama and his supporters is reminiscent of Carter.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 16, 2015 11:31 AM (XUKZU)
Posted by: donna at October 16, 2015 11:32 AM (/dSsq)
Posted by: obligatory at October 16, 2015 11:32 AM (evdj2)
Anyone know the model of that bull pup rifle?
Shit, I can't get the pics to to a tiny. Nevermind.
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 16, 2015 11:32 AM (jJRIy)
Thnx, NGFY
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^11inty^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2015 11:33 AM (5buP8)
I call it the "media-political establishment" for a reason.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 16, 2015 11:33 AM (9krrF)
Take the family out to eat or hold a barbeque, enjoy the autumn evening, and thank God for the good times we've had as a country, and remember those good times when asking for strength to get through the really bad times that are swiftly coming.
World's a wreck, enjoy the peaceful days while they last.
Yeah, whatever blowhard ego is in the White House will only change how quickly they get here, not whether they do or not. The problem with the USA is at the core of culture and society, not in leadership. We get leaders based on who the culture is, not the other way around.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:34 AM (39g3+)
That is pretty much the entire appeal, such as it is, of Trump, isn't it? The 14 year old, mad at the unfairness of it all when Daddy tells him to do his homework, slamming his bedroom door and yelling (inside his head of course), "fuck you!!"
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:38 AM (ljZD2)
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Which will be exactly you that cold day in November next year when the choice is Trump or Sanders.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 16, 2015 11:35 AM (LXJ1e)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 16, 2015 11:35 AM (sI4OA)
Posted by: Russkilitlover at October 16, 2015 11:26 AM (Yeaeo)
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That's exactly right, these "debates" are like 3 hour conference calls.
Posted by: Make America Great Again at October 16, 2015 11:37 AM (LXJ1e)
OK, but I gotta warn you. It's like jacking off. Too much and you'll go blind!
Posted by: The Pharmacist at October 16, 2015 11:39 AM (OZmbA)
That only works if you assume McConnell has any shame or dignity, which I think at this point we can safely say is not the case.
It is possible, though, that's he's such a weak sister that any strong personality controls him, which Trump would definitely bring to the table.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 16, 2015 11:16 AM (39g3+)
No one in DC is clean. You find out what the Dems are using to blackmail McConnell, and use it on him. Or have the FBI 'accidentally' find kiddie pRon on his computer.
There are all sorts of ways to make McConnell do what you want if you're willing to go to the mattresses.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2015 11:41 AM (X6fMO)
Yeah. I would support the 3 hours, but only if they are allowed to debate. That is, get rid of the stupid moderates and put all ten or eleven people on the stage and have them debate.
Otherwise it's really just an extra hour for Democrat posturing.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 16, 2015 11:42 AM (2lndx)
That should have been "stupid moderators", but perhaps it was a Freudian truth.
It's going to be an autocorrect day, I can tell.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 16, 2015 11:44 AM (2lndx)
Posted by: rrpjr at October 16, 2015 11:47 AM (s/yC1)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 11:49 AM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Cycomiko66 at October 16, 2015 11:52 AM (O45yk)
Posted by: Pamazon at October 16, 2015 12:00 PM (7srIu)
Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 16, 2015 12:04 PM (s8eQS)
Posted by: Coolio at October 16, 2015 12:05 PM (GTH1H)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 16, 2015 11:49 AM (Xo1Rt)
All bets are off. Reality is being redefined.
Posted by: rrpjr at October 16, 2015 12:10 PM (s/yC1)
As for voting for Trump, I can't in the primary. But will in the general. It will depend heavily on who his staff are. Personnel is policy after all. If he makes Mark Levin AG, he'd be a slam dunk.
Posted by: Iblis at October 16, 2015 12:15 PM (ADMJH)
Posted by: Donald. at October 16, 2015 12:23 PM (Bdeb0)
You haven't been watching the last seven years have you?
Obama: "Do what I want or I won't play."
GOPe: "How about negoiating?"
Obama: "Do what I want or I won't play."
GOPe: "OK, Can we give you more than what you want?"
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at October 16, 2015 12:25 PM (f+6Pd)
Posted by: General Corman at October 16, 2015 12:26 PM (Bdeb0)
Posted by: alanstern at October 16, 2015 12:38 PM (BuL0K)
Posted by: V-Ger Clinton at October 16, 2015 12:46 PM (Bdeb0)
days ago when addressing the National Press Club. Of course he did it
in his soft spoken, bedside manner.
Posted by: Levin at October 16, 2015 12:50 PM (s26zM)
Posted by: Baboo the Occelot at October 16, 2015 12:53 PM (vDEpI)
You haven't been watching the last seven years have you?
Obama: "Do what I want or I won't play."
GOPe: "How about negoiating?"
Obama: "Do what I want or I won't play."
GOPe: "OK, Can we give you more than what you want?"
Posted by: Jukin, Former Republican at October 16, 2015 12:25 PM (f+6Pd)
But intransigence never works in foreign relations.
Posted by: Vladimir Putin at October 16, 2015 12:53 PM (oKE6c)
This pathetic debate conditions response "We object but we'll have to go along with it" is EXACTLY the problem with the House and Senate.
Plus as Trump points out, Rubio isn't showing up for votes while running for President because the Senate is ineffective. I'll bet he's still cashing the paycheck.
He's the republican version of Bill Clinton (almost said "Bill Clinton of the right") in that he has wanted to be President since he was 12 years old and has been planning and executing ever since.
Still I prefer him over Skankles.
Posted by: dirks strewn at October 16, 2015 01:05 PM (kfcYC)
pick one: he might wind up being more of the same, but "might" is better than "for sure", IMHO.
YMMV
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 16, 2015 01:05 PM (8WVNP)
"Carson beats Trump 52-38 in a hypothetical head-to-head primary in the Keystone State. Carson has the highest favorability rating of any candidate, crushing Trump's numbers with men an women, as well as the conservative wing of the GOP."
http://tinyurl.com/morons10162015
Carson is also getting real traction with Millennials.
We are living in uncharted political territory where old rules of political viability are crumbling.
Posted by: Levin at October 16, 2015 01:06 PM (s26zM)
That is pretty much the entire appeal, such as it is, of Trump, isn't it? The 14 year old, mad at the unfairness of it all when Daddy tells him to do his homework, slamming his bedroom door and yelling (inside his head of course), "fuck you!!"
Trump got shipped off to a military high school, I'm sure he wasn't yelling inside his head.
Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2015 01:19 PM (ztOda)
But I always saw him as a businessman and entertainer, and thought that if he really got too deep into politics, the media complex and pols who have done it for a living for decades would cut him to ribbons.
Still a ways to go, but I'm enjoying being proved wrong thus far. And I like the support of his kids.
Posted by: RM at October 16, 2015 01:19 PM (Sj3r3)
Posted by: Wendy at October 16, 2015 01:27 PM (bpemY)
By next spring, the country will be aching for a decisive leader who knows how to use his/her power to achieve their goals.
Donald Trump is as likely as anyone in the field, Dem or Rep, to be that man.
Posted by: changes at October 16, 2015 01:30 PM (Hq48F)
Who the hell has time to sit down for 3 fooking hours to watch these asshats?
2 hours is more than enough punishment.
Go Don
Posted by: exsanguine at October 16, 2015 01:35 PM (dZhSr)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at October 16, 2015 10:12 AM (ljZD2)
Incorrect.
Posted by: eman at October 16, 2015 10:18 AM (MQEz6)
Very curious. Came in late to this thread, and noticed that the 10:12 post quoted no longer exists. Did strumpetdoody encounter the banhammer?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 16, 2015 01:42 PM (0yhH4)
I know Dems and Repubs that would vote for him.
It's stunning the support he has.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2015 09:53 AM (qCMvj)
He is near the bottom of my list, but it's astonishing that people continue to underestimate him.
Posted by: Doug at October 16, 2015 01:45 PM (yNjgJ)
Posted by: Arkindole at October 16, 2015 01:52 PM (/LHP2)
Posted by: Begonia at October 16, 2015 10:36 AM (uanRy)
As you are a GOPe plant. And you're looking a little wilted, too, honey. Here, have a shot of this tasty Alaska Fish Fertilizer!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 16, 2015 01:53 PM (0yhH4)
Never underestimate a man who gets results.
Trump is nobody's fool and he makes the others FROM BOTH PARTIES and their insipid, droning, ineffectual, hypocritical, robotic rhetoric and lies unbearable.
Donald Trump is in this race to win.
Posted by: ouch at October 16, 2015 02:49 PM (40IrJ)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 16, 2015 03:00 PM (OmBeX)
Trump's poll numbers have shown real staying power.
The Illegal Alien Crisis is a much bigger issue with American voters than the elites (in both parties) realize. And as the field narrows, that crucial issue will continue to grow - not fade.
In the remaining top tier of contenders, only Ted Cruz has a serious chance of eventually overtaking Trump for pole position.
Carson will fade because his Anti-2nd-Amendment position will become glaring: and he'll be forced into a flip-flop. He's enjoying a honeymoon right now. But it won't last. (He's a nice enough guy though.)
Posted by: Trump Super-Fan at October 16, 2015 05:30 PM (l2dSQ)
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John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)