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In UK, Judges Propose Making It Illegal to Utter Any Statement Denying Global Warming
This was proposed at a conference -- they're always clanning up in conferences, aren't they? -- in London on "Climate Change and the Law." The conference was funded by UK's Supreme Court (I didn't know they had one), the UK government, and the UN's Environmental Program.
They wish to make it illegal to question the "science."The purpose of this strange get-together was outlined in a keynote speech (visible on YouTube) by Philippe Sands, a QC from Cherie Blair's Matrix Chambers and professor of law at University College, London. Since it is now unlikely that the world will agree in Paris to a legally binding treaty to limit the rise in global temperatures to no more than 2 degrees C from pre-industrial levels, his theme was that it is now time for the courts to step in, to enforce this as worldwide law. Although his audience, Sands said, would agree that the scientific evidence for man-made climate change was "overwhelming", there were still "scientifically qualified, knowledgeable and influential individuals" continuing to deny "the warming of the atmosphere, the melting of the ice and the rising of the seas", and that this is all due to our emissions of CO2. The world’s courts, led by the International Court of Justice, said Sands, could play a vital role "in finally scotching these claims". "The most important thing the courts could do," he said, was to hold a top-level "finding of fact", to settle these "scientific disputes" once and for all: so that it could then be made illegal for any government, corporation (or presumably individual scientist) ever to question the agreed "science" again. Furthermore, he went on, once "the scientific evidence" thus has the force of binding international law, it could be used to compel all governments to make "the emissions reductions that are needed", including the phasing out of fossil fuels, to halt global warming in its tracks. The fact that it could be seriously proposed in the highest courtroom in the land that the law should now be used to suppress any further debate on what has become one of the most contentious issues in the history of science (greeted with applause from the distinguished legal audience) speaks volumes about the curious psychological state to which the great global warming scare has reduced so many of the prominent figures who today exercise power and influence over the life of our Western societies.The video of his speech is here, if you can take it. I'm old enough to remember when courts of uninformed, politicized judges deciding what was and what was not heresy was a bad thing.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Flyguy at October 15, 2015 02:00 PM (pZd1z)
Free at Last!
Posted by: BunkerintheBurns at October 15, 2015 02:00 PM (WDySP)
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:01 PM (UzsPv)
Posted by: maddogg at October 15, 2015 02:01 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:01 PM (kff5f)
Thanks, judges.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 15, 2015 02:01 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:01 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: Copernicus at October 15, 2015 02:01 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: The Clinton Evil Initiative at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Galileo at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Galileo at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: BunkerintheBurns at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (WDySP)
Caught a bit of a program on witches in the UK. They use to "interrogate" (torture) witches (little girls) by wrenching. They wd wrap a rope around the poor kids head and someone would pull the ends on each side until the skull would crack and pop.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (FsuaD)
Posted by: maddogg at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (xWW96)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Judas Washington at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (eOpVe)
Where's Rumpole of the Bailey when you need him!
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at October 15, 2015 02:02 PM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (VndSC)
This would be hilarious if it wasn't so terrifying.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: The Jackhole at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (3mTyP)
Keep it up, Mr. Booker. I hope you live to be 150.
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (UzsPv)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (FsuaD)
Commies.
If you don't agree, make a law to shut you up.
The International Bully Pulpit. The SCOAMF will fit right in, like OJ's glove.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Justice Roberts at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Iblis at October 15, 2015 02:04 PM (9221z)
Musta been the drugs,
Posted by: GasperGoo at October 15, 2015 02:04 PM (tGmdn)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:04 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Flyguy at October 15, 2015 02:05 PM (pZd1z)
Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2015 02:05 PM (VndSC)
Yes, because this is how science works. A judge with no particular training or grounding in the underlying concepts hears evidence and issues a "finding of fact." And then the world comports itself by that finding of fact.
Yep. That's it exactly. We have never, ever, ever changed long held and deeply rooted scientific ideas based on new information, let alone debate over old data. Not. Ever.
Oh, wait, I've got some guy named Ptolemy calling. BRB.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:05 PM (kff5f)
Posted by: HH at October 15, 2015 02:05 PM (DrCtv)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (E5UB0)
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Like: a baby is a lump of cells.
Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (VndSC)
Remember when 2 guys getting married was the punchline to a bad joke?
Posted by: CozMark at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (CbGSW)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (ucDmr)
I remember when some snaggle-toothed limey was talking about regulating kitchen knives.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (5buP8)
Caught a bit of a program on witches in the UK. They use to
"interrogate" (torture) witches (little girls) by wrenching. They wd
wrap a rope around the poor kids head and someone would pull the ends on
each side until the skull would crack and pop.
Cut, jib, newsletter.
Posted by: Cecile Richards at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (2jQGY)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (FsuaD)
Both. You press with stones to force someone to enter a plea (because if they enter a plea of guilty, or are convicted after a not guilty plea, you can take all their property), and then you burn them at the stake after your kangaroo court.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:06 PM (kff5f)
It is so ordered.
Posted by: Mr. Justice Gerald Graves at October 15, 2015 02:07 PM (8ZskC)
When the Left says some exercise of power is bad, they really mean they'd like to have it for themselves.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2015 02:07 PM (S+N7W)
Posted by: irright at October 15, 2015 02:07 PM (zxnPQ)
Dr Freeman Dyson says Obamas on the wrong side of the climate argument.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/q95438z
link to WZ
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 15, 2015 02:07 PM (aVYsC)
Because courts never run amok in the States.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 15, 2015 02:07 PM (m1pMI)
The science is settled.
#eyeroll
Posted by: @votermom at October 15, 2015 02:08 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: BignJames at October 15, 2015 02:08 PM (x9c8r)
What? You say the aether doesn't exist and we're sending radio waves through the air? Aether denier!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:09 PM (kff5f)
Sense and Sensibility was a cash cow in the UK.
Ahahaha! Fooled you blokes!
Much Ado About Nothing...
Alas, The Remains of the Day...
They're going Full Monty.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 15, 2015 02:09 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: Sierra Club at October 15, 2015 02:09 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:09 PM (kff5f)
Then the chopping of the head also a big mistake. You can look at the cartel videos and it takes numerous whacks before the person is dead.
So all this whining the UK does about how our justice system is cruel and unusual punishment is nonsense.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 15, 2015 02:09 PM (iQIUe)
The science isn't settled until WE say itis.
Posted by: Un-elected judges and career bureaucrats at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (5buP8)
It's the INQUISION all over again only now the robed judges are secular.
Posted by: deepred at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (xv5cf)
Posted by: Haiku Guy at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (hmj8n)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (LUgeY)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (JmGFJ)
What? You say the aether doesn't exist and we're sending radio waves through the air? Aether denier!
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:09 PM (kff5f)
It's not an aether-or proposition, you know.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (2Ojst)
Did someone say scotch? I'm in. Hiccup.
Posted by: Grandma Hillary at October 15, 2015 02:10 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 15, 2015 02:11 PM (D/1P4)
Worldwide law?
That steaming pile of turd again?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 15, 2015 02:11 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at October 15, 2015 02:11 PM (ucDmr)
Posted by: wth - what I learned today at AoS at October 15, 2015 02:11 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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Muzzies 1, UK 0
Posted by: Roy at October 15, 2015 02:11 PM (VndSC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 15, 2015 02:11 PM (8ZskC)
Stop funding Climate Change research.
Posted by: @votermom at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (cbfNE)
Let 'em all freeze. The sun has set on the British empire.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (rj3Mq)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (gf8BH)
Or being against Citizens United, for that matter.
But hey: eternal vigilance, freedom, some assembly required.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: Benji Carver at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (OD2ni)
Just another variable for the '97% ers' to ignore. They have their single variable computer model -- now critically compromised -- and they're sticking to it. Makes 'em look like chumps to me.
If I had a dollar for every line of computer code I ever created I'd be a wealthy man. But who am I to criticize their single variable 'work'?
Posted by: se pa moron at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (sI4OA)
Posted by: Sue me at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (Yf488)
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 02:03 PM (mf5HN)
I'm still blown away by how anti-scientific the idea of not testing or questioning scientific conclusions actually is. Especially for something like climate, which we have historical evidence has changed wildly many, many times in our history. WTactualF??
Posted by: Lea at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (lIU4e)
Posted by: mallfly at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 15, 2015 02:12 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (kff5f)
Feynman discussed a common problem in experimental science and commented, "That's not why the planes don't land - but the planes don't land."
This is the fun thing about Settled Science that isn't. You can get as loud as you want in your doomsaying (if people have tuned you out, ramp up the alarmism!), you can try to criminalize criticism of your theories - but the planes still won't land.
Posted by: JPS at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (e/xnf)
Posted by: SH at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (gmeXX)
anybody keeping score?
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (UzsPv)
Posted by: the Useless Generation at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Torquemada, loving it at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (O2jYw)
Posted by: chelsea danger at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (1nFsQ)
"Man-made climate change is real, Pluto isn't a planet, and if you disagree you get what Galileo got or, Joan of Arc."
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 15, 2015 02:14 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: mallfly at October 15, 2015 02:14 PM (qSIlh)
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 15, 2015 02:14 PM (jJRIy)
Guessing he'd probably jail the alarmists instead.
Posted by: @votermom at October 15, 2015 02:14 PM (cbfNE)
Because courts never run amok in the States.
I view what happens in England as a preview of coming events to the U.S. Oral hygiene being the one outlier.
Posted by: Un-elected judges and career bureaucrats at October 15, 2015 02:14 PM (5buP8)
From the sidebar, I believe, a while back.
http://lidblog.com/2015/09/omg-im-going-to-jail-climate-gurus-want-obama- to-throw-skeptics-in-jail.html
Posted by: rebel flounder at October 15, 2015 02:14 PM (1DH1V)
This decision should not be made by a judge.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 02:14 PM (3nqA+)
Never trust a Spaniard to do a Frenchman's job!
Posted by: zombie french swordsman from calais at October 15, 2015 02:15 PM (m1pMI)
I wonder if Ace has a tunnel leading out of his apt to safety when the feds surround him?
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 15, 2015 02:15 PM (iQIUe)
This is a society with no fear of God (used in its original meaning).
Posted by: SH at October 15, 2015 02:15 PM (gmeXX)
Paging Dr. Guillotine? Dr. Guillotine, please pick up the red courtesy phone.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 02:15 PM (rj3Mq)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2015 02:16 PM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 15, 2015 02:16 PM (1RNgT)
Off to the hangman for all non-believers!
Zeig Obama! Zeig Obama! Zeig Obama!
Posted by: Zombie Roland Freisler at October 15, 2015 02:16 PM (D0NZx)
If you saw the computer code that was part of the East Anglia leak you wouldn't trust these climate bozos to eat with a fork.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2015 02:16 PM (S+N7W)
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 15, 2015 02:17 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2015 02:17 PM (Espnc)
But enforcement, ahh yes, that's done by police power, by taking away your property and your liberty through fines and imprisonment.
This man proposes to steal innocent citizens property, the food out of their kids mouths, and their life and liberty, all to enforce his totalitarian design. We are leaving the realm of fascism and going right to Stalinism.
Once violence is planned by the State against citizens for political opposition civil war cannot be far behind. I hope some English kept their guns, and let this be a lesson: never, ever, let the government take guns away in this country.
Posted by: MTF at October 15, 2015 02:17 PM (TxJGV)
I think Prince Charles of Wales is an anti-Christ and is leading the perversion of UK and EU.
Posted by: England gone at October 15, 2015 02:17 PM (I0sxh)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 15, 2015 02:18 PM (m1pMI)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 02:18 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: zombie St. Thomas More at October 15, 2015 02:18 PM (326rv)
be nice to keep a tidy list of top scientists who call out the AGW fraud for what it is
anybody keeping score?
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (UzsPv)
Nobody expects The Science-ish Inquisition.
Posted by: The Science-ish Inquisition at October 15, 2015 02:19 PM (1DH1V)
The speech police, they come to me in my bed
The speech police, they're coming to arrest me, oh, no
You know that talk is cheap
And those rumors ain't nice
And when I try to speak
I don't think I'll survive the night, the night
'Cause they're waiting for me
They're looking for me
Every single day
They're driving me insane
Those men inside my brain
The speech police, they live inside of my head (live inside of my head)
The speech police, they come to me in my bed (come to me in my bed)
The speech police, they're coming to arrest me, oh, no
Posted by: zombie at October 15, 2015 02:19 PM (jBuUi)
Haven't heard from him for a while, wonder why?
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (CGjum)
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No one is coming to take your guns away you nutjob. All we want is to limit the number of bullets you can have, and to register every guy you have with the government, so we know where they are in case we ever do want to take them away.
And by the way, did you just say global warming doesn't exist. You sir are a monster.
Hey, did you just use a Styrofoam cup.
Stone him.
Posted by: Liberal Hero at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (gmeXX)
"finally scotching these claims"
......................
Hillary! should use that phrase when she testifies.
Posted by: wth - what I learned today at AoS at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Fritz at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (UzPAd)
first they take the guns
then they take the free speech
then they open the borders
then they ban your self-defense groups
then, they let the pakis rape your girls.
But yeah, why not let the Trojan Horse Libs in the Conquered UK get tossed a bone and use that new State Power to make the littles shut up about something else?
Posted by: joe-impeachin44 at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (lxrIV)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (CGjum)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/q95438z
link to WZ
Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 15, 2015 02:07 PM (aVYsC)
Well, given Bobo's lifelong record of being on the wrong foot, it would be a frekkin miracle if he were on the correct side. I know Bobo thinks miracles are completely withing his skillset, but, facts say otherwise.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (kXoT0)
Posted by: Mortimer at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: ginaswo at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (qxNrP)
Posted by: His Holiness the Pope at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whales at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (+aCe4)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (E5UB0)
Posted by: Chris M at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (k3w9p)
With all this history and variety available to him, this dumb shit picks North Korea as a model.
Whatever he's paid, it's 100% too much.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (bLnSU)
Good times, good times.
Posted by: zombie at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (jBuUi)
People have been shot for less.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (rj3Mq)
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:13 PM (UzsPv)
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That would be Mark Steyn.
http://amzn.to/1Gfk0qD
Posted by: MTF at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:22 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Not Sure at October 15, 2015 02:22 PM (6oDGm)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:22 PM (NOIQH)
Unfortunately, there are greedy extremists who would deny scientific facts and harm our environment in pursuit of profit.
Intellectual, non-partisan leaders like Mr. Obama understand the threat, but the extremists are determined to politicize our environmental security.
Posted by: Susan Olivia Cuthbertson-Klein at October 15, 2015 02:22 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: Bill Nye at October 15, 2015 02:23 PM (OD2ni)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 15, 2015 02:23 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at October 15, 2015 02:23 PM (HSmrB)
Posted by: His zombie Holiness the Pope at October 15, 2015 02:23 PM (326rv)
It's not anything else than that.
If there's one kind of person that should be shunned, shunned to the point of exile, it's the Control Freak.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 15, 2015 02:23 PM (bLnSU)
****
Well, hell, that might explain why my new tires don't fit my old rims.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 02:23 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Chris M at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (k3w9p)
I propose we give the judges all a nice goblet of hemlock and be done with it. I don't think they would get the irony though.
Posted by: LizLem at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Blanco Basura at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (4WhSY)
Posted by: Frank Hardly at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (CGjum)
Time for your 2 pm bleeding, Mr. Smith!
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (dFi94)
Well, our own Supreme Court declared carbon dioxide a pollutant, so we have no room to laugh at the Brits.
Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (JtwS4)
It will be cooler than the top bunk with all of this global warming to occur.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (E+yET)
That's an....interesting interpretation of the court's role in science.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (NOIQH)
OT
people dropping out of Obamacare: http://nyti.ms/1PvzgBP
it's NYT so caveat, and here's the money so you don't have to give them a click:
"About 9.9 million people were enrolled in the federal and state marketplaces at the end of June, a drop of about 15 percent from the 11.7 million who the Obama administration said selected plans during the open enrollment period that ended in February."
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (UzsPv)
Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (E5UB0)
That's the kind of ending we need.
Posted by: @votermom at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (cbfNE)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (39g3+)
That's what happens when good men do nothing. If you cede government, the media, the academy, religion and culture, the progs get to skip a few steps along the way.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Newt Gingrich at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (OD2ni)
In an interview with NBC Bay Area earlier this year, Whitman said he tried to warn OSHA leaders that his managers pressured investigators to close complaints without proper review to clear a backlog of cases.
Whitman said his supervisor altered his reports by changing his conclusions and dismissed cases even when Whitman found they had merit.
It didn't stop there: Whitman wrote letters to OSHA leadership and to the U.S. Secretary of Labor, Thomas Perez. "I had gone through every conceivable channel and what I saw was inaction," Whitman said.
In the end Whitman told NBC Bay Area that he was fired as retaliation for raising red flags about the agency.
"They got rid of the squeaky wheel," Whitman said. "I was going to report what I thought to be violations of law and policy. They were going to have to answer to those reports and they didn't like that."
The letter announcing his termination said Whitman had been fired for six separate reasons, including "lack of candor during an investigatory meeting" and "unauthorized release of government documents."
Whitman said the "real reason" he was fired is because he took his concerns public.
Posted by: Edward Snowden at October 15, 2015 02:26 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:26 PM (UzsPv)
They will all be muslim in about 5 years anyway.
Posted by: navybrat at October 15, 2015 02:26 PM (ETxiG)
That's the kind of ending we need.
Just saw that movie. The ending is the most amazing thing I've ever seen. How the hell did Hollywood manage to put out a major movie that tells the truth about envirowackos?
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (S+N7W)
Posted by: pep at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (YXmuI)
Man you people with your vocabulary and your knowledge of foreign language common phrases.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (3nqA+)
Haven't heard from him for a while, wonder why?
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:20 PM (CGjum)
They found a new use for Guantanamo, that's why.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (hLRSq)
Eventually there will be a backlash against this kind of stuff. I hope it involves killing all the leftists.
Posted by: Chris M at October 15, 2015 02:24 PM (k3w9p)
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I think that killing people who want to stifle speech is in actual fact, worse than stifling speech.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (dFi94)
To 'real' scientists and meteorologists it must be maddening to have to shut up and spout propoganda or risk losing your job.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (sI4OA)
Depends - is the refuge transgender and/or disabled?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (NOIQH)
Based on all the gear geometry I used to do, it would have been a ton easier if pi was just 3.
Of course, the gears would have been a bit crunchy, but I never would have missed dinner.
Posted by: jwest at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (Zs4uk)
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (UzsPv)
Feynman discussed a common problem in experimental science and commented, "That's not why the planes don't land - but the planes don't land."
This is the fun thing about Settled Science that isn't. You can get as loud as you want in your doomsaying (if people have tuned you out, ramp up the alarmism!), you can try to criminalize criticism of your theories - but the planes still won't land.
Posted by: JPS
135 Feynman discusses the cargo cults:
Hah! Thank you. I hadn't known where that phrase came from.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
The cargo cult observations actually started PRIOR to WWII, in the mid-'30s. They just became more commonplace during WWII because so many more foreigners were showing up.
And they're not apocryphal -- massive evidence for it. Just Google "John Frum" for tons of info.
Cargo cults last at least until the '70s, and may still even persist to this day. It's not a specific religion, but a manner of thinking.
Posted by: zombie at October 15, 2015 02:28 PM (jBuUi)
Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2015 02:28 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Randy Westerfeld at October 15, 2015 02:28 PM (zp6Kj)
Haven't heard from him for a while, wonder why?
=========================
John Coleman. He used to be the Channel 7 weather guy out of Chicago. Then he worked his way up to weatherman for Good Morning America.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 02:29 PM (dFi94)
Not like they don't already want to kill "deniers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3J7jDqYDs
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:29 PM (NOIQH)
Muslim's are shitty with maintenance, and nukes require a lot of it. So, we've got that going for us.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:29 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: grammie winger
*****
This could serve as the basis for a lively philosophical discussion.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 02:30 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:30 PM (8HTq1)
That's the kind of ending we need.
Posted by: @votermom at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (cbfNE)
I could definitely do with banging a hot Swedish princess.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 02:30 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Trofim Lysenko at October 15, 2015 02:31 PM (8ZskC)
So in yesterday's thread about the French weatherman and the climate change I started to wonder how my friend back in MA who is a TV weatherman felt about all this. Turns out he's reassuringly sane.
But the article had this:
Kelley is not alone among meteorologists in his views. Results of a survey of 571 weathercasters, released on Monday by George Mason University, found 54 percent believed that global warming was happening, with 31 reporting it is mostly caused by human activities and 63 percent saying it is mostly caused by natural changes in the environment. Fifty-eight percent of respondents indicated humans could reduce global warming.
That's right.
54% believe global warming is happening.
58% believe humans can reduce global warming.
So at least 4% of meteorologists believe we can reverse a thing that isn't happening.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 15, 2015 02:31 PM (JtwS4)
That's the kind of ending we need
I really loved that the bad guy was an environmentalist who wanted to decide who lived when he de-populated the world to save Gaia.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:31 PM (NOIQH)
I saw a few of his comments. The media painted him as a money-drunk, lunatic fringe character, and he went away.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:32 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Chris Extra Crispy at October 15, 2015 02:32 PM (hKyl0)
evidence for man-made climate change was "overwhelming", there were
still "scientifically qualified, knowledgeable and influential
individuals" continuing to deny "the warming of the atmosphere, the
melting of the ice and the rising of the seas", and that this is all due
to our emissions of CO2.
What an ignorant asshole. He should be disbarred, for stupidity if nothing else. He doesn't know shit about science, obviously.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2015 02:32 PM (oKE6c)
*shakes fist*
Damn it! Beat me to it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2015 02:33 PM (KrAjA)
And that they made the entire world-wide Elite Class's heads literally explode.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2015 02:33 PM (S+N7W)
That's why Rainbow Six will never be made, at least not with the existing plot. Amazing book about environmentalist freaks and a psychotic plot to wipe out all the world's population except the best and most enlightened (those who agree with them).
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 02:33 PM (39g3+)
From 1934 to 1940, under Lysenko's admonitions and with Stalin's approval, many geneticists were executed (including Isaak Agol, Solomon Levit, Grigorii Levitskii, Georgii Karpechenko and Georgii Nadson) or sent to labor camps. The famous Soviet geneticist and president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, was arrested in 1940 and died in prison in 1943.[12] Hermann Joseph Muller (and his teachings about genetics) was criticized as a bourgeois, capitalist, imperialist, and promoting fascism so he left the USSR, to return to the USA via Republican Spain. In 1948, genetics was officially declared "a bourgeois pseudoscience";[13] all geneticists were fired from their jobs (some were also arrested), and all genetic research was discontinued.
http://tinyurl.com/l7vzmc3
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (8ZskC)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (D/1P4)
either way, he's using up my valuable oxygen.
Posted by: Ta-Nehisi Coates' Colon at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (KuYKO)
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (7RXcs)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 02:27 PM (dFi94)
me too....and what the person who suggested doing this doesn't understand....is that the people who want to stifle free speech would have zero problem killing anyone trying to express free speech
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (0O7c5)
still even persist to this day. It's not a specific religion, but a
manner of thinking.
Posted by: zombie at October 15, 2015 02:28 PM (jBuUi)
I always claimed I was going to plant gingkos and cycads in my yard to recreate the Cretacious period habitat to encourage the return of the dinosaurs.
There is a lot of cargo-cult thinking, in various styles, going around.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Sierra Club Prezzy at October 15, 2015 02:34 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Ignaz Semmelweis, unsettling the science at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (CGjum)
Same goes for Crichton's State of Fear.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (NOIQH)
Mine as well outlaw fun, too.
FBI, Justice Department Investigating Daily Fantasy Sports Business Model
FBI agents have been contacting customers of DraftKings to ask them about their experiences
wsj.com
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (qCMvj)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 02:30 PM (mvenn)
not really......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: fb at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (JVEmw)
I don't care how scientifically educated a judge is, but he need to keep his trap shut about things he's ignorant about. And no judge in a free country anywhere on earth should ever say something that remotely come close to "people should be jailed for disagreeing with me." That is enough cause for disbarment. Its obvious the guy has no concept of law or justice.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (39g3+)
your basic full-tilt Crichton good guys v. bad guys (à la Jurrassic Park). not incredibly WOW!, but i think it's well worth the occasional complete take-downs by the main protagonist of the AGW idiots throughout the story.
but the best part is the description - about 3/4ths through (pp 451 in the hardback copy) that describes the AGW fever as a replacement for the keep-the-sheeple-afraid-and-under-control mechanism to replace the cold war boogey man; i.e. kept in a "State of Fear".
Posted by: WaldoTJ at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (M1MpJ)
As well as surprise audits and unplanned visits w/an alphabet soup of federal agencies.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (5buP8)
You'd think the Brits would remember the history of when they had vineyards.
"the scientific evidence for man-made climate change was "overwhelming"
The only thing overwhelming was the suppression of evidence to the contrary, what with the whole East Anglia "hide the decline" Climate Gate scandal and the FOIA violations relating to it.
Posted by: Speller at October 15, 2015 02:35 PM (hHs1b)
This is what happens when you start a major new revenue stream and none of it is going to the DNC.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (S+N7W)
Posted by: Fahrvegnugan at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (326rv)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Cheri at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (oiNtH)
*shakes fist*
Damn it! Beat me to it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2015 02:33 PM (KrAjA)
Yup...that old bastard yelling at the defendants was this first thing we thought of....with his funny hat and all.
Posted by: Zombie Director Z at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (D0NZx)
Posted by: mbabbitt at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (p/jtE)
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (Xa4vS)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2015 02:36 PM (Bd6VC)
Yep, even think it's "funny" to fantasize about offing deniers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3J7jDqYDs
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:37 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:37 PM (CGjum)
Which they have. AGW is complete bunk.
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:38 PM (UzsPv)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3J7jDqYDs
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:37 PM (NOIQH)
exactly......
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 15, 2015 02:38 PM (0O7c5)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:38 PM (8HTq1)
We're OK with destroying the wrong kinds of books - those written by old, white men that prop up the Patriarchy and other non-diverse lifestyles and values.
Posted by: The Left at October 15, 2015 02:39 PM (NOIQH)
Thanks, but I'm not going to watch video.
GloBull Warming is pure BS.
Posted by: Carol at October 15, 2015 02:39 PM (sj3Ax)
That's the kind of precedent the British court ought to take under advisement, doncha think?
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 15, 2015 02:39 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 15, 2015 02:40 PM (0O7c5)
What popped up were all the Global Warming peeps who wrote critical reviews of the book.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 02:40 PM (3nqA+)
What a show!
The Inquisition!
Here we go!
We know your wishin'
that we'd go awaaaaaaay!
But the Inquisition's here
and it's here to staaaaaaay!
Posted by: Phinn at October 15, 2015 02:40 PM (pR/At)
Yeah, they know just enough to get themselves into trouble. Story of the internet, really.
State of Fear was a terrific thriller, but yeah never gonna make it into film. Clancy picked the wrong topic, you notice no more of his films ever were picked up for film properties again once that came out. They remade a couple for TV but that's it. He's dead to Hollywood.
Which is stupid of them, really. A remake of Looker would be so perfect these days. They could change the fugue flash gun into an app on a phone, too.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 02:40 PM (39g3+)
This is one of the most rigid, unloving, least accepting, and punishing religions on earth. No wonder they have so much in common with radical islam.
You don't think like them? They will destroy you.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 02:40 PM (dFi94)
Future generations, by which I mean mobs, may find this information useful in the non-global warming caused burning times.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 15, 2015 02:41 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at October 15, 2015 02:40 PM (0O7c5)
====================
See you soon, phoenixgirl. And yes - God Bless Israel.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 02:41 PM (dFi94)
something about the media both censuring and promoting/pushing on the subject Global Warming.
My French el stinkos but if I am reading one source correctly he is having to say that he is not a Global Warming Denier--
But simply a Global Warming Questioner.
Anyways moral of the story-but then you already know this--the media is --I'm out of words.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 02:42 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Fahrvegnugan at October 15, 2015 02:42 PM (326rv)
I'll go get my tomahawks.
Posted by: Zombie Benjamin Martin at October 15, 2015 02:43 PM (o8n43)
Well there's some of that but they're also apparently pretty corrupt and its obviously, blatantly online gambling which is otherwise banned by law.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 02:43 PM (39g3+)
Seriously, the only difference between Commies and Fascist's is the Fascists have better gear.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:43 PM (5buP8)
Things are falling apart. Politicians don't understand, but the people understand that things are just not right. They are not right! American voters are mad and fearful for the future of the country, but the politicians are in utter denial about what is happening."
Posted by: MTF at October 15, 2015 02:43 PM (TxJGV)
Posted by: Mickey and Sylvia at October 15, 2015 02:43 PM (QP2lF)
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 15, 2015 02:43 PM (RD7QR)
I think that killing people who want to stifle speech is in actual fact, worse than stifling speech.
Posted by: grammie winger,
If only for the fact that no lessons are learned, no information transmitted.
Agreed. Dont' kill the fascists. But do make them learn something. Hard.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 15, 2015 02:43 PM (JmGFJ)
I think that killing people who want to stifle speech is in actual fact, worse than stifling speech.
Posted by: grammie winger
*****
This could serve as the basis for a lively philosophical discussion.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 02:30 PM (mvenn)
Stifling speech implicitly involves the threat of violence with death as a distinct possibility. In retrospect, would anyone begrudge the Jews a preemptive strike on Hitler?
Posted by: The Science-ish Inquisition at October 15, 2015 02:44 PM (1DH1V)
I's my least favorite Crichton book because the characters do a lot of long speeches - that's how he gets in so much detail debunking AGW. However, he cites all of his scientific sources in the back of the book - dude did his homework.
Essentially, a group of enviro wackos plot to use fancy machinery to secretly trigger an earthquake on one side of the world that will generate a Tsunami to wipe out coastal CA and other sites in order to prove that AGW exists.
Posted by: The Left at October 15, 2015 02:44 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 15, 2015 02:44 PM (D/1P4)
Posted by: Mortimer at October 15, 2015 02:44 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:25 PM (NOIQH)
Both Frye and Daubert would like to have a chat.
*rocks in corner*
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 02:44 PM (mf5HN)
AGW is bunk
funny, when this meeting occurs in Paris, I'll be rooting for the Chicoms and the Indians, who will look at this treaty and say, "sure! we'll sign!" with absolutely no intention of ever abiding by it
but they'll sign it so as to commit the western nations to further economic, social, and intellectual decline, and to confirm the idiot westerners in their idiocy
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:44 PM (UzsPv)
You don't think like them? They will destroy you.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 20
True, so true
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 15, 2015 02:44 PM (E+yET)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:45 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: se pa moron at October 15, 2015 02:45 PM (sI4OA)
Yeah, its just that their religion is completely fluid and unpredictable - what was fine yesterday is banned tomorrow - and is completely without objective or external basis. They don't even appeal to any divine authority, just their own foot-stamping assertion. Its as awful, restrictive, hope-crushing, and tyrannical as the caricature of the puritans that they've managed to convince everyone of.
Hint: real puritans weren't like the left has been pushing for over 100 years. For example, they were the first people in the world to write love letters to their wives rather than to mistresses.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 02:45 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:45 PM (8HTq1)
-
So will he be forced from office like that Nobel winner who joked about chicks in science?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 02:46 PM (XUKZU)
Crichton, or did I miss a book?
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at October 15, 2015 02:46 PM (o8n43)
We read about it in books, then pretend it's not possible now. For some reason. Even if we cannot articulate the reason.
No way that could happen now, right? We're too sophisticated. We know stuff. We believe in justice and truth and... wait, somebody is a Globull Warmening Non-believer?? STONE HIM!!
Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2015 02:46 PM (TOk1P)
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 15, 2015 02:47 PM (iIzG7)
Posted by: Pope Francis, Bishop of Rome, His Holiness at October 15, 2015 02:47 PM (5nmxy)
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the rain at October 15, 2015 02:46 PM (o8n43)
It's Crichton. I just added it to my wish list on Amazon.
The stuff I learn from you people keeps me coming back. You are all so much more than dildo puns and booze hounds.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 15, 2015 02:47 PM (AC0lD)
Posted by: Qoheleth
Nowadays, it isn't worth the semtex required to do it right.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at October 15, 2015 02:48 PM (326rv)
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Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 15, 2015 02:48 PM (EIFYf)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 02:48 PM (XUKZU)
*rocks in corner*
Posted by: alexthechick
hmmm... admissibility?
Don't remember the names though.
Did they sink or float?
Posted by: Lord HIgh Grand Inquisitor of the Imperial Climate Court at October 15, 2015 02:48 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 02:49 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Pennywise at October 15, 2015 02:49 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 15, 2015 02:49 PM (JtwS4)
Two discussions going on... Crichton was State Of Fear, Clancy was the original Rainbow Six, both of which go after AGW idiots.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2015 02:49 PM (Bd6VC)
----
that triggers a memory (or implants one) but that is all of the story that I can remember. Was that ever in something else? I don't remember the story being about global warming.
My memory is tailored to multiple choice test questions. Remember a bit of trivia, get a A. In fact, you don't even have to remember the trivia, just have a 'feeling' about that one answer.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 02:49 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 02:50 PM (39g3+)
What sayeth the Horde?
Posted by: Cecil J DeDude at October 15, 2015 02:50 PM (C9lNt)
Yup. When Boston is buried in snow until June, it's just weather, you stoopid knuckle dragger. When California catches on fire because of drought and decades of fire repression, it's irrevocable truth that a .000000001% rise in atmospheric Co2 is going to cook us alive.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 15, 2015 02:50 PM (5buP8)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 15, 2015 02:50 PM (oVJmc)
I like where you're going with that, Bograt. Do you have a newsletter that I might subscribe to?
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 15, 2015 02:50 PM (iIzG7)
someone needs to tell Mr Greentard Fascist-
that there's a reason he's not in an STEM profession.
Math and empirical logic are clearly not his strong suit.
Yakkity-yakity-yak and thinking that he's quite the clever little fellow- yeah, that.
But, math, empirical logic, the scientific method-
Nope.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2015 02:50 PM (0cMkb)
Crichton did a presentation detailing how the Climate Change nonsense is essentially a religion
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:50 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Lord High Grand Inquisitor of the Imperial Climate Court at October 15, 2015 02:51 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Megan at October 15, 2015 02:51 PM (QP2lF)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 02:51 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Fritz at October 15, 2015 02:51 PM (UzPAd)
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 02:52 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 02:52 PM (mf5HN)
*****
Two words:
SPLAT, splat
(The second 'splat' is due to the bounce)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 02:52 PM (mvenn)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:52 PM (8HTq1)
Crichton is dead to everybody. Clancy's now a franchise like the Dread Pirate Roberts, as I think he actually retired to Patagonia before dying.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2015 02:52 PM (Bd6VC)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 02:53 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:53 PM (lViYo)
To lay eggs and grow that quickly, they have to consume massive amounts of calories, no matter how efficient their systems were. I don't remember any of the worlds or locations having near enough organic material for them to even survive, let alone thrive.
Or was this answered in canon and I'm not remembering it?
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:53 PM (CGjum)
Do not upend any apple carts, now.
Posted by: torquewrench at October 15, 2015 02:53 PM (noWW6)
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 15, 2015 02:54 PM (k8tEg)
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 02:52 PM (3nqA+)
=========
Shit. I misread that as hippos and tried to imagine what a naked hippo would look like. When I realized that it was toolless and not toothless, it finally dawned on me.
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 15, 2015 02:54 PM (iQIUe)
Not as happy an ending as the new Eli Roth film about AGW retards from what I hear.
Roth is a disgusting human being, even for someone who is a huge horror fan, but this appears enjoyable.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2015 02:54 PM (Bd6VC)
Thank gawd Muldoon had the gavity bouncer comment.
Ha!
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 02:54 PM (mcm0N)
We can tell things from the range of information a poster posts.
I, for example, am a class traitor and a loon.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2015 02:54 PM (3pRHP)
perhaps the Froggies can wheel out Madame Guillotine
and do the world a favor by shortening these corrupt, ignorant tax-eating fascists by a foot or so.
It seems to be the only way to get rid of them.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2015 02:55 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:55 PM (8HTq1)
Aw, crap! That's why I can't find it --- I had also forgotten the title.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 02:55 PM (NOIQH)
been done already, they called it "the Dreyfus Affair".
or something. similar. Dreyfus being the key word.
Well, ya, it wasn't about climate change. and Hollywood goes for a lot of remakes, variations on a theme, reimaginations.
ok, never mind. Gopherit. Good luck, and thanks for all the fish.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 02:55 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: 'Liberals' at October 15, 2015 02:56 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 15, 2015 02:56 PM (k8tEg)
Gobbles it up like a sweet sweet treat!
http://iluvtrucks.com/portfolio/garbage-truck/
Shd be a top ten song...
Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 15, 2015 02:57 PM (iQIUe)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 02:57 PM (3LnB9)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:57 PM (8HTq1)
Depended on the film in question.
In Alien, deleted scenes had it raiding the food stores. Aliens had them capturing the cattle brought by the colonists and using them. The other films just didn't give a shit.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at October 15, 2015 02:57 PM (Bd6VC)
My eyes read certain things and started crossing.
I do know one thing--the face is--miserable. He tortures himself with his own dirty mind thoughts.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 02:58 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 02:58 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Fritz at October 15, 2015 02:51 PM (UzPAd)
Go on ......
Posted by: Harry Reid at October 15, 2015 02:58 PM (o8n43)
I, for example, am a class traitor and a loon.
Posted by: Kindltot
-------------------------
*types comment re Nuclear Magnetic Resonance*
* deletes *
* substitutes limerick *
There once was a lass from Nantucket...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2015 02:59 PM (9mTYi)
judge: aye we 'ud crracckh theer 'eads, lad!
hrh: i should like to see it made illegal, if i may say so, for any of them to deny settled science
judge: arrrr, conseeder it dun, me dread dovereign lord! it's wot we dew here in Balmoral stays in Balmoral
hrh: quite
judge: now how's about a roond of golf and a bally go at the ladies ey
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:59 PM (lViYo)
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 02:52 PM
I do so love that kind of happy ending. Composted Gaia worshipers. Gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling deep in the sub-cockle area.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2015 02:59 PM (KrAjA)
After that, it was just Movie Magic. Eventually leading to Prometheus, which is of course the worst movie of the decade.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at October 15, 2015 02:59 PM (SCcgT)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 03:00 PM (mvenn)
I have a theory that the Aliens are hollow. That they have a layer of exoskeleton, a layer of that godawful acid, and then some musculature and nervous system, and inside its empty which explains their massively rapid growth.
I also think they are bio weapons developed by the big elephant guy race.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 03:00 PM (39g3+)
http://tinyurl.com/pbrp2b4
Two home pedos and the son they purchased in he Ukraine?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:00 PM (3LnB9)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:00 PM (XUKZU)
I went to my grandboy's school today for Fall Festival of Crafts or some such thing. Oh my gosh. I felt like I had stepped into a place where straightjackets live. Talk about rigid humorless auto-bots obsessed with sitting still and being quiet and all eyes on teacher. And we're talking four year old boys. I nearly yanked him out during "leaf identification". Seriously? You put pre-gathered leaves into a Ziploc bag and take them out to show - not touch - and this is how boys learn WHY?
perfect training for no questions - listen to what i tell you - don't ask questions - do as I say. And don't squirm.
GAHHH
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 03:00 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant
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Yes, Peasant. You will be dealt with. Soon.
Posted by: Googlemobile Corp. at October 15, 2015 03:01 PM (9mTYi)
To lay eggs and grow that quickly, they have to consume massive amounts of calories, no matter how efficient their systems were. I don't remember any of the worlds or locations having near enough organic material for them to even survive, let alone thrive.
Or was this answered in canon and I'm not remembering it?
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 02:53 PM (CGjum)
Why ask why?
Posted by: The Eye Worm in Prometheus at October 15, 2015 03:01 PM (0cMkb)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
And who else would know more about dishonesty?
Posted by: Papist Bograt at October 15, 2015 03:01 PM (326rv)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:01 PM (/tuJf)
No wonder he was given the space to speak out.
Once again, reality and public policy by filling the right boxes in polls.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2015 03:01 PM (3pRHP)
But I gotcha, food stores and cattle. Thanks guys. I still don't think it goes far enough as these things would probably need to eat like hummingbirds, but I'm not going to nerdrage about it.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:02 PM (CGjum)
http://tinyurl.com/pbrp2b4
Two home pedos and the son they purchased in he Ukraine?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:00 PM (3LnB9)
BRB. Bunk.
Posted by: Harry Reid at October 15, 2015 03:02 PM (o8n43)
Posted by: Yo! at October 15, 2015 03:02 PM (GwIKd)
And he thought he was all clever - he got a laugh and applause for this sophistry.
My response would be "hell yeah, let's have that discussion. When do you think its okay to kill humans?"
Because his side thinks "when they are helpless and innocent unborn babies" and that's not a winning position in any situation, ever.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 03:03 PM (39g3+)
Would be funny if he weren't blatantly lying on a daily basis about deadly serious things.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:03 PM (NOIQH)
That is the definition of delusional.
Posted by: Dang at October 15, 2015 03:04 PM (2oWD2)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ojst)
No, Frye and Daubert are the cases that make me weep at work whilst hiding in a dark closet and drinking.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 03:04 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Grimaldi at October 15, 2015 03:04 PM (umuHV)
http://tinyurl.com/pbrp2b4
Two home pedos and the son they purchased in he Ukraine?
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:00 PM (3LnB9)
No more campbells products for me. I won't buy Honey Maid graham crackers either b/c of their homo agenda in their commercials - ghey "families" with kids are "wholesome." Barrrrfffff.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (2Ojst)
Wow.. where have I heard THAT one before...
Posted by: Gallileo at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ojst)
No, Frye and Daubert are the cases that make me weep at work whilst hiding in a dark closet and drinking.
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 03:04 PM (mf5HN)
I've heard it both ways.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon
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"You'll probably find that it suits your book
To be a bit smarter than you look
Observe that the easiest method by far
Is to appear a bit stupider than you are" - Piet Hein
I work at it incessantly.
Posted by: Googlemobile Corp. at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Feh at October 15, 2015 02:53 PM (lViYo)"
I like his law and use it often.
Posted by: Arlen Spector at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (OD2ni)
No one would get an actual paycheck because all we need to know is your rate-of-pay. That's the bad news. The good news is you'll be getting a raise every year for the next buncha decades.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (sI4OA)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2015 03:06 PM (9mTYi)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (8HTq1)
Talk about ungracious guests.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:06 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Zombie Lysenko at October 15, 2015 03:06 PM (k8tEg)
You can always invent what you need to paper over the critics. It is a made up reality after all. I just want to see it logical.
There just isn't enough time in 90 minutes, or 46 minutes to 'explain' all the stuff in the story.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 03:06 PM (3nqA+)
GAHHH
How awful!!
I remember when I moved my son into private school, and when I asked him what he liked best (after the 1st week) he said: "I have PE every day and I don't have to sit criss-cross apple-sauce in a circle"
Said private school is 90%+ boys, btw.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:06 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:07 PM (3LnB9)
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 03:04 PM (mf5HN)
*grabs good booze*
*jumps into closet*
Tell me about Frye and Daubert? I would have guessed a brand of boots and a kind of cheese.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 15, 2015 03:07 PM (JtwS4)
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant
I'll take a free one. At 100,000 dollars, not so much
Posted by: Bruce at October 15, 2015 03:07 PM (8ikIW)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 03:07 PM (8HTq1)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:02 PM (CGjum)
*whispers*
Prometheus
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 03:07 PM (mf5HN)
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Interestingly, Obama assured us that it was not a tax.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2015 03:07 PM (9mTYi)
Said private school is 90%+ boys, btw.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:06 PM (NOIQH)
It's sitting Indian style! INDIAN STYLE, DAMMIT!!! Politically correct dipshits...the teachers, not your son.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:07 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Lord High Grand Inquisitor of the Imperial Climate Court at October 15, 2015 03:08 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:08 PM (CGjum)
I can't believe they keep going to that. Ignoring the difference between a baby and a person like John Wayne Gacy. Pathetic.
And I think death penalty proponents should just ask what drugs are being given in cases for doctor assisted suicide. They can just use those for executions because they are apparently the way to "die with dignity" and all that. Sit back and watch the ACLU twist themselves into pretzel shapes.
Posted by: Dang at October 15, 2015 03:08 PM (2oWD2)
Is it not time to begin mocking the Church of AGW Zealots for their unquestioning and naïve belief in their own "spaghetti god"?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars(TM) at October 15, 2015 03:08 PM (BK3ZS)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:08 PM (CGjum)
Another bonus to being a liberal, you can never be a hypocrite.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:09 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:09 PM (3LnB9)
judge: aye we 'ud crracckh theer 'eads, lad!
hrh: i should like to see it made illegal, if i may say so, for any of them to deny settled science
judge: arrrr, conseeder it dun, me dread dovereign lord! it's wot we dew here in Balmoral stays in Balmoral
hrh: quite
judge: now how's about a roond of golf and a bally go at the ladies ey
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Semi OT but this brought to mind one of the best syfy short stories I ever read, James Alan Gardner's story Three Hearings on the Existence of Snakes in the Human Bloodstream.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:09 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:09 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:10 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Comte de Liberale at October 15, 2015 03:10 PM (k8tEg)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:11 PM (3LnB9)
Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2015 03:11 PM (3U4+k)
More news from bearded Spock world, Josh Earnest calls pro-lifers "fundamentally dishonest".
Posted by: The Great White Snark
And who else would know more about dishonesty?
Posted by: Papist Bograt at October 15, 2015 03:01 PM (326rv)
True that. You don't go to a CPA for plumbing advice, I guess.
Posted by: The Science-ish Inquisition at October 15, 2015 03:11 PM (1DH1V)
Oh hell no it isn't. I will never say that. I don't care if it makes Iron Eyes Cody cry a single tear.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:11 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:10 PM (XUKZU)
Well, you will have to look long and far for one of those. Aren't any in D.C., for certain.
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 15, 2015 03:11 PM (+YMhA)
_____________________
I want a fee.
Posted by: Chris Cross, Sailin' (Takes Me Away) at October 15, 2015 03:12 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: Bigby's High Five at October 15, 2015 03:12 PM (3ZtZW)
Posted by: Lizzy
Is this in England or NZ?
No idea what that is.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 15, 2015 03:12 PM (JmGFJ)
Heh, yes, I had to ask him what that meant.
I just loved that they never made the kids sit on the carpet and listen to stories, discuss things, etc.. It was all active learning - moving, doing things, and so on.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:12 PM (NOIQH)
and when I asked him what he liked best (after the 1st week) he said: "I
have PE every day and I don't have to sit criss-cross apple-sauce in a
circle"
Said private school is 90%+ boys, btw.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:06 PM (NOIQH)
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That sounds wonderful! Boys do not learn in the same ways as girls, by and large. They need to move and touch and get on the floor and watch the bugs. My daughter would like to put the kids in private school ( which we did for both her and our son) but son-in-law thinks public schools are just fine. He's a union worker. What can I say?
(seriously, SIL is a great guy and a good dad - he just doesn't see the problem with public schools. He figures they were good enough for him, so ...... I'm just the grammie so I have to keep my mouth shut. Sometimes. Every once in a while)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 03:12 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
IN what way? Because we call children, um, children? and murder, um, murder?
Who knew?
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 15, 2015 03:12 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 15, 2015 03:13 PM (oVJmc)
Shouldn't we sacrifice a virgin to appease the Sun God?
Posted by: The Great White Snark
We'd have to borrow from Tepid Air. Again.
Posted by: Papist Bograt at October 15, 2015 03:14 PM (326rv)
Posted by: Ghandi at October 15, 2015 03:14 PM (KCQo0)
Posted by: The Great White Snark
IN what way? Because we call children, um, children? and murder, um, murder?
Who knew?
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 15, 2015 03:12 PM (+YMhA)
Their Narrative is The Truth. Anything not within The Narrative is a lie.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:14 PM (2Ojst)
Oh hell no it isn't. I will never say that. I don't care if it makes Iron Eyes Cody cry a single tear.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:11 PM (/tuJf)
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Oh yes. Criss Cross Applesauce it is. You will say it and you will like it. No Free Speech for You!
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 03:14 PM (dFi94)
Posted by: I've had enough of Science11ty!s shit at October 15, 2015 03:14 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Geronimo at October 15, 2015 03:14 PM (KCQo0)
Real sweet hearts these pali kids ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (NOIQH)
Didn't you have any reservations about writing that?
Posted by: se pa moron at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (sI4OA)
That is the definition of delusional.
Posted by: Dang at October 15, 2015 03:04 PM (2oWD2)
Sorry, but as we have now decided the baseline temperature for global warming was now during the middle of the last Ice Age, we declare all Governments Guilty, and therefore take all Power unto the Various Courts of the Land... because of the Climate Emergency.
We also further declare that any opposition to said ruling, either written or spoken, constitutes Contempt of Court, and anyone guilty of such contempt, will be jailed until we deem otherwise.
Posted by: The Worlds Courts... taking power for your own good. at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (qh617)
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I don't know but I rarely see aliens in Safeway. Not that kind, anyway.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (3LnB9)
"if the law says that you can't deny that warming is occurring, and by 2050 it becomes unavoidably obvious that the warming never occurred, will it be legal to say so?"
In that case it will be especially illegal!
Posted by: JPS at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (e/xnf)
In addition to that, all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half-hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside so we can check.
Furthermore, all children under 16 years old are now 16 years old
Posted by: Fielding M. (Scientist) at October 15, 2015 03:16 PM (k8tEg)
http://tinyurl.com/cs5xxub
In our defense, the pi bill died rather than passing. So we got that going for us.
Posted by: chuckR at October 15, 2015 03:16 PM (n1exz)
Because nothing says Science! like human sacrifice to appease a wrathful nature deity.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 03:16 PM (hLRSq)
Exactly!!
Our son was not cutting it in traditional public school and we were fortunate to have such a great private school available to us.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (2Ojst)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (39g3+)
How do you breathe through that thing?
Posted by: just the punchline at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (m1pMI)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:05 PM (2Ojst)
Yes, because nothing says wholesome love like ripping apart your boyfriend's anus with your tool.
And then visiting that horror on your kids.
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Ghandi at October 15, 2015 03:14 PM (KCQo0)
Bed of Nails. Get with it gramps.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (hLRSq)
Won't the rising sea levels make us all witches, or newts?
Posted by: Probably late Joke at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Insomniac at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (2Ojst)
Hmmm... next time go on Wednesday.
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 15, 2015 03:18 PM (+YMhA)
Tonto returns with a grave look on his face.
"KImosabe I'm afraid you gonna die"
That one always cracks me up.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant at October 15, 2015 03:18 PM (k8tEg)
Thanks for the correction and further info - I hadn't looked into them beyond what I remembered from Feynman.
"Cargo cults last at least until the '70s, and may still even persist to this day. It's not a specific religion, but a manner of thinking."
Oh yes. I love the Army, but the Army is prone to it. See General Shinseki's decision to issue the Rangers' black berets to the whole Army in hopes of instilling Ranger-level discipline and esprit de corps in all Soldiers. I wish I could say this was an isolated case of cargo cult reasoning; it's just one of the most famous.
Posted by: JPS at October 15, 2015 03:18 PM (e/xnf)
Posted by: Bigby's High Five at October 15, 2015 03:18 PM (3ZtZW)
Reality is stranger than fiction.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:18 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: chuckR at October 15, 2015 03:18 PM (n1exz)
Posted by: Probably late Joke at October 15, 2015 03:17 PM (DL2i+)
MORE WITCHES!!
Posted by: tcn in AK at October 15, 2015 03:19 PM (+YMhA)
Posted by: Crom's Dirty Underpants at October 15, 2015 03:19 PM (xudgf)
Taking a real gamble posting that with the new Banning policy in effect? Defying house rules...
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:19 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant slowly moving backwards through time at October 15, 2015 03:19 PM (k8tEg)
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 03:20 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 03:20 PM (67teE)
Hill draws parallels between the two groups and endorses the videos message of their common struggle.
Who is this asshole? Never heard of her
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2015 03:21 PM (gf8BH)
Ah yes, the UK, land of enlightenment not so much, but where socialism has completely bent their thinking to the point of importing the very people that will end them as a country...
. . . . guess we're doing that too.
Hard to imagine, with that giant ball of perfected fusion up there, every day, not hiding at all. Flaming on . . .
Posted by: GBruno at October 15, 2015 03:21 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 03:21 PM (67teE)
This is why they must resort to a broad and sweeping rule to shut off the skeptical and the outright naysayers.
I would agree with this law IF all climate scientists were required to submit their data, methods and any software used to a public venue where anyone could see what they did and how to reach their conclusions and could then attempt to duplicate their work.
This has always been the gold standard of scientific research; present your theories then present your data for others to duplicate. Or Not.
And it's the OR NOT that's got them worried.
I also think there should be full disclosure on how much and AGW researcher gets for his or her work.
They claim that the deniers are paid shills but we have no way of knowing if the anti deniers aren't paid shills also.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:21 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2015 03:22 PM (gf8BH)
Free speech is limited to approved GovSpeak?
How the hell do you walk this shit back? "Pro lifers are fundamentally dishonest" ?????
There is an entire global enterprise of lying lawyers representing foaming at the mouth crazy fucks who are willing legislating their client's bullshit into cotton candy and jailing their opponents.
I do not see a political solution.
Posted by: Mortimer at October 15, 2015 03:22 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: GBruno at October 15, 2015 03:22 PM (u49WF)
I know, right? But this is public education.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:22 PM (NOIQH)
you in heap big trouble Kemo Sabe.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:23 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:23 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 03:24 PM (67teE)
Real sweet hearts these pali kids ha?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2015 03:15 PM (gf8BH)
When we lived in Jordan, our kids went to the American international school, which was 70% Pali. At recess, all the Western (and the three Israeli) kids would get pelted with rocks, knocked down, hit, etc, while the "playground moms" who were supposed to be watching and stopping that stuff looked the other way. Because, strangely, school admin wouldn't let us western moms have playground duty. We were allowed to read to the kids, and help with schoolwork, but not that. When one of the little brats almost broke my daughter's leg, we had a chat with administration, who breezily said it were her fault, because red head, or something. Yeah, they are real sweethearts. Aspiring rappers, going to college, making something of themselves...
Posted by: Moki at October 15, 2015 03:24 PM (x303I)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:21 PM (Xo1Rt)
Wait - we can get paid to shill?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 03:24 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:25 PM (XUKZU)
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Shouldn't we sacrifice a virgin to appease the Sun God?
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:10 PM (XUKZU)
I'm willing to "sacrifice a virgin", IYKWIMAITTYD.
Posted by: rickl at October 15, 2015 03:25 PM (zoehZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:25 PM (3LnB9)
See shit Mao said about barrel's of guns.
Someone needs to open this barn dance.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 03:25 PM (67teE)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2015 03:26 PM (8HTq1)
The BLM movement was infiltrated by Palestinians and CAIR starting with the Ferguson protests. One of the leading BLM leaders in Ferguson in Bassem Masri, who is all about likening American blacks to Palestinians.
It's insidious.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:26 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: Moki at October 15, 2015 03:26 PM (x303I)
CO2 and climate change... the PHYSICS do not work.
First, the theory of Greenhouse Gases.
All energy comes to, and leaves the Earth as Radiation.
Radiation comes from the Sun, in a specific spectrum (including light), and is then either Reflected back to space, absorbed by the Atmosphere, or absorbed by the earth's surface.
Energy is also Radiated by all matter (called Black Body Radiation) in specific wavelengths dependent primarily on the Temperature of the mass.
Matter also will absorb radiation, but different molecules absorb different frequencies of radiation energy... known as the absorption spectrum. This energy will raise the energy state of the molecule, which it will then either reradiate (as blackbody radiation), or loose energy through conduction.
The theory behind a greenhouse gas is that the Gas will absorb incoming radiation from the sun, and through conduction, heat the rest of the air around it. It will also absorb IR radiation radiated by the Earth itself (black body radiation again), and use conduction to spread it to the rest of the atmosphere.
So, is CO2 a Greenhouse Gas? YES, it is, but only up to a point.
CO2 ONLY absorbs IR energy in well known, and clearly defined frequencies, which comprise about 8% of the IR Spectrum. This IR can come from the Sun, the Blackbody radiation of the Earth, or the Blackbody Radiation of the atmosphere itself.
The problem is that ALL of the IR radiation in the Earth's biosphere, within those frequency ranges IS ALREADY BEING ABSORBED!
http://www.nov55.com/atmo.html
The above chart is a visual representation of the Energy absorption spectrums of the atmosphere, and the %'s of those spectrums being absorbed. If you look at the CO2 absorption frequencies, you will see that they are already at 100% absorption...
or, to put it simply, there is no more energy to absorb, thus there can be no Temperature increase by adding more CO2!
So, in conclusion, is CO2 a Greenhouse Gas? YES! But its already reached its maximum Greenhouse effect, adding more will not do anything.
Therefore, the Cap and Trade legislation will not do anything except bankrupt us.
Posted by: BB Wolf at October 15, 2015 03:27 PM (qh617)
An image search will show you much. Apparently she thinks appearing in public dipped in Crisco cooking oil is a 'look'.
I think it makes her look like she dates Peter North.
Posted by: se pa moron at October 15, 2015 03:28 PM (sI4OA)
Posted by: GBruno at October 15, 2015 03:28 PM (u49WF)
There was that Chamber of Commerce thing about spending 100 million where I suggested everyone sign up to organize their communities on the Chambers millions.
My intention was take the money and then, when on camera, say something other than what the Chamber expected. Instead, everyone thought I was selling my soul to the Chamber.
I didn't want to be explicit just in case there were some spies reading the comments.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 03:28 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 03:28 PM (mcm0N)
I really don't know a solution to this other than to beat the crap out of leftists who won't shut their idiot hole. But you can only do that in person.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 03:29 PM (39g3+)
426 I'm so out of it , when people type BLM--I'm all--what the hell happened at the Bureau of Land Management?
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 03:28 PM (mcm0N)
They've been very quiet since getting biatch slapped by a Nevada Rancher and his supporters...
Posted by: BB Wolf at October 15, 2015 03:30 PM (qh617)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:30 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: GBruno at October 15, 2015 03:30 PM (u49WF)
"treaty to limit the rise in global temperatures to no more than 2 degrees"
........................
It's a tax.
Posted by: Justice Roberts at October 15, 2015 03:30 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: MTF at October 15, 2015 03:31 PM (TxJGV)
Good times, good times.
Posted by: zombie at October 15, 2015 02:21 PM (jBuUi)
Was that not, in fact, kind of a King Canute moment, in which which the legislators knew damn well that pi is not 3, but passed the law as a demonstration of the futility of using legislatures to deny reality?
Posting from my main computer, with its new power supply successfully installed, and the dust manatees all blown out.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2015 03:31 PM (0yhH4)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:31 PM (Xo1Rt)
Oh - that's what that was about - take the money and incompetently perform the task.
Sort of like being a consultant or a Democrat.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 03:32 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: Danube River Guide
I had suggested that people use #BLM for BlackLiversMatter and just BLM for the land department.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 03:32 PM (67teE)
Illiterate illegal aliens should have their voices heard at the ballot box!
PhDs who disagree on global warming should be prosecuted!
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:34 PM (XUKZU)
NO ONE CAN.
We don't have powerful enough computers to model all the variables. The Earth's atmosphere is a chaotic system with billions of variables over it's entire surface.
Some of these variables, the scientists don't even know about yet.
Yet they are proposing "solutions".
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:35 PM (Xo1Rt)
Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:35 PM (CGjum)
Listen, and understand.
They can't be bargained with.
They can't be reasoned with.
They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.
And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until we live under communism.
We see "1984", "Animal Farm" and "Brave New World" as the best warnings ever written - they see them as handbooks on how to achieve their goals.
Posted by: GBruno at October 15, 2015 03:35 PM (u49WF)
I finally figured it out.
Although frankly it was a lot more interesting to me when I thought it was the Bureau.
Oy.
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 03:35 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Moki at October 15, 2015 03:36 PM (x303I)
>>I actually thought the criss-cross thing was a joke.
I know, right? But this is public education.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:22 PM (NOIQH)
In fairness, indian style is now slumped over at the traditional indian casino bar. Don't want to confuse the kids.
Posted by: The Science-ish Inquisition at October 15, 2015 03:36 PM (1DH1V)
Posted by: Dr. Hussein - Captain Climate, AA, BFD at October 15, 2015 03:37 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 03:37 PM (3nqA+)
What's so "bad" about Global Warming?
Show your work in plain English.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:37 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 03:37 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 03:37 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: Danube River Guide at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (mcm0N)
We get to keep our SUVs, get rid of rat bastards around the world, and have 72 degrees year 'round.
Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (dFi94)
Over long term, if a real rise in temp were realized, that would probably be a net benefit as it would increase the average growing season by a day or two. Almost as if we were still coming out of the last ice age.
Gross oversimplification representing the whole planets temperature as a single number is in itself completely meaningless unless you are an astronomer looking a specs of dirt millions of miles away.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (NaeCR)
Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:35 PM (CGjum)
You said PA three times.
*looks around for CAC*
Posted by: alexthechick - Hair rays activate! at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (mf5HN)
Then the problem just sort of "dies off". Then there should be lots more real estate to inefficiently farm.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:39 PM (/tuJf)
And being ridden like a mule during the Oklahoma land rush?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 03:40 PM (67teE)
Posted by: Galileo at October 15, 2015 03:40 PM (8WVNP)
Illiterate illegal aliens should have their voices heard at the ballot box!
PhDs who disagree on global warming should be prosecuted!
* * *
And only women are allowed to comment or have an opinion on abortion.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2015 03:40 PM (NOIQH)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:41 PM (XUKZU)
Posted by: Cheri at October 15, 2015 03:41 PM (oiNtH)
Warm good. Cold bad. Ugh.
Posted by: Ugh the Caveman at October 15, 2015 03:41 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:41 PM (3LnB9)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_of_the_House_of_Lords
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2015 03:42 PM (vBeA5)
You know, speaking of Indians and stuff.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:42 PM (CGjum)
What will you do if we let you go home,
And the plastic's all melted,
And so is the chrome?
WHO ARE THE BRAIN POLICE?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 15, 2015 03:42 PM (9Fc79)
-
And force out the Scandis.
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:43 PM (XUKZU)
sacbee.com/news/ politics-government/ capitol-alert/article 39234468.html
guess i should mention "reloading" to anyone...
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 15, 2015 03:43 PM (8WVNP)
In PA there is NO concealed carry license. You get licensed to carry a firearm (LTCF) and you then can carry it anyway you want to. (they do frown on concealed carry in crowded public places as it scares the liberals)
The other thing the LTCF does is you can transport a loaded weapon in your car and can go anywhere you want with it. If you don't have the license, you can only transport an unloaded gun with ammunition physically separated to a gunsmith, range, gunstore or other gun activity location. No side trips.
I think PA turns red next year. I know they elected a Democrat Governor but that's because Corbett was an idiot and the GOPe didn't get rid of him and try to run someone else so of course he lost.
Most of the state is red except for the obvious places but even those are getting a bit reddish lately. Watch the Philly Mayor's election this year. That will be a clue.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:43 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 03:44 PM (evdj2)
And really, the plan for global warming is to raise the cost of food by
getting rid of GM crops while raising the cost of energy through
pernicious carbon swap schemes and destruction of energy producing
industries.
Then the problem just sort of "dies off". Then there should be lots more real estate to inefficiently farm.
Posted by: Chupacabra
So the U.S. will have the Battlestar Galactica ending?
Everyone just destroys their technology and walks off into the woods to die of exposure , tooth decay, and plague?
Great plan, progtards.
Posted by: Mortimer at October 15, 2015 03:44 PM (0dcbp)
You have NO idea how much effort it takes to gin up all these numbers, and to shape them into something recognizable.
Its a labour of love, but will be handsomely rewarded when we get our way. Yowsers!
Posted by: Dr. Phil Fahrenheit MMGW Local #7734 at October 15, 2015 03:44 PM (zL/eJ)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 03:45 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 03:46 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 15, 2015 03:43 PM (XUKZU)
==============================
Hey now. I'm not sitting criss cross applesauce with the Indians.
Posted by: grammie winger, Isa al-Masih for muslims too at October 15, 2015 03:46 PM (dFi94)
guess i should mention "reloading" to anyone...
Posted by: redc1c4 at October 15, 2015 03:43 PM (8WVNP)
It is being lead by the Lt. Gov., who is a microphone filatio afficionado:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lhqxvlq
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2015 03:46 PM (vBeA5)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 15, 2015 03:46 PM (FsuaD)
We look for Trump's poll numbers to drop significantly over the next few weeks.
Posted by: GOP sources say... at October 15, 2015 03:46 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:46 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 03:47 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 03:47 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:47 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 03:48 PM (evdj2)
But with it, you can carry almost anywhere it isn't Federally illegal to do so.
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:48 PM (CGjum)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 03:49 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Cheri at October 15, 2015 03:49 PM (oiNtH)
If you like your central heating and air, you can keep your central heating and air.
You may not be able to afford it, but that's Bush's fault.
Posted by: Dr. Hussein - Captain Climate, AA, BFD at October 15, 2015 03:49 PM (wAQA5)
And a Political Maguffin,
and the opportunity for all that sweet graft.
A 3fer.
Posted by: DaveA at October 15, 2015 03:49 PM (DL2i+)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:50 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Chupacabra at October 15, 2015 03:50 PM (CGjum)
I
would agree with this law IF all climate scientists were required to
submit their data, methods and any software used to a public venue where
anyone could see what they did and how to reach their conclusions and
could then attempt to duplicate their work.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:21 PM (Xo1Rt)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Let me try to fix that,
I
would agree with this law IF ALL SCIENTISTS were required to
submit their data,...
The current group of scientists (etc) are a self-selected group who choose to debate angels dancing on the head of a pin. Most scientists (etc) do not engage because there is nothing there.
Censoring non-believers (of anything) to allow believers to spew their twisted fantasies without contest is nothing less than authoritarian theocracy (no matter how much believers insist that their 'science' is pure).
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 15, 2015 03:50 PM (NaeCR)
Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2015 03:50 PM (Ken0l)
Tonto rides furiously, reaches the village and finds the Village doc who tells him that only sucking out the poison can save the Lone Ranger's life.
Posted by: Ex NYC Peasant ever more slowly moving backwards through time at October 15, 2015 03:50 PM (k8tEg)
approval, many geneticists were executed (including Isaak Agol, Solomon
Levit, Grigorii Levitskii, Georgii Karpechenko and Georgii Nadson) or
sent to labor camps. The famous Soviet geneticist and president of the
Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, was arrested in 1940 and died in
prison in 1943.[12] Hermann Joseph Muller (and his teachings about
genetics) was criticized as a bourgeois, capitalist, imperialist, and
promoting fascism so he left the USSR, to return to the USA via
Republican Spain. In 1948, genetics was officially declared "a bourgeois
pseudoscience";[13] all geneticists were fired from their jobs (some
were also arrested), and all genetic research was discontinued.
And why were the Reds interested in this at all? Because their idiotic system of political economy demands that Man be a tabula rasa so they can build New Socialist Man. In short, they have to believe that nurture is everything, or their entire intellectual edifice collapses.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2015 03:50 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:47 PM (Xo1Rt)
GOP Sources Say...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 15, 2015 03:51 PM (NaeCR)
And the Hockey Stick? Well, it didn't make itself. Like Dr. Mann always says "If the narrative doesn't fit the data, massage it until it does"
Only nice things about doing MMGW research is the young skulls full of mush, whom are sooooo impressionable! I'm having a session with several now in my hot tub. Yowsers!
Posted by: Dr. Phil Fahrenheit MMGW Local #7734 at October 15, 2015 03:51 PM (zL/eJ)
Posted by: Cheri at October 15, 2015 03:51 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:51 PM (Xo1Rt)
>>I
would agree with this law IF ALL SCIENTISTS were required to
submit their data,...
I'll take a crack at it.
I would not agree with this law under any circumstances. Science is never settled.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:52 PM (/tuJf)
Nice thing about Texas's chl? If you have it, no background check. Still have to fill out the 4473.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 15, 2015 03:52 PM (67teE)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:53 PM (3LnB9)
Weasel Zippers
It's almost as if State was on the other side
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 15, 2015 03:53 PM (gf8BH)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:53 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2015 03:54 PM (Ken0l)
Four O'clock coming, time for the two hour shift/thread change
Posted by: Nip Sip at October 15, 2015 03:54 PM (jJRIy)
I hope you are right!
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at October 15, 2015 03:54 PM (7ln+i)
Posted by: Boss Moss at October 15, 2015 03:54 PM (3LnB9)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:52 PM (/tuJf)
Comrade, you are not being scientifically socialist enough.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Debate Tailgate Supplies at the Outrage Outlet! at October 15, 2015 03:54 PM (hLRSq)
Posted by: grammie winger
*****
This could serve as the basis for a lively philosophical discussion.
Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at October 15, 2015 02:30 PM (mvenn)
The only way to stifle free speech is to punish it.
That necessitates some sort of sanctioned force, authorized to do so, or a mob.
Speech is just the expression of thought, and as Descartes noted "I think, therefore I am", a forcible stifling of speech is a negation of more than just words, but of the validity of one's perceptions, experience, values, and life.
Take that from me and see if I don't kill you.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 15, 2015 03:55 PM (kKHcp)
Posted by: just the punchline at October 15, 2015 03:55 PM (m1pMI)
says "If the narrative doesn't fit the data, massage it until it does"
My favorite is the presumption that if the data differ from their model, then the data must be wrong.
Hubris, with a capital "H."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2015 03:55 PM (oKE6c)
Posted by: BB Wolf at October 15, 2015 03:27 PM (qh617)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You forgot that the big ball of rock we are standing on, just beneath the surface, is thousands of degrees (C)... kinda of changes the dynamic.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 15, 2015 03:55 PM (NaeCR)
And this nonsense is coming from the Colleges.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at October 15, 2015 03:56 PM (Xo1Rt)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:52 PM (/tuJf)
Yeah, I'd thought I'd knocked mechanics on the head until some meddlers came along.
Posted by: Isaac Newton at October 15, 2015 03:56 PM (oKE6c)
Marvel studios got the rights to the Fantastic Four.
http://www.therealstanlee.com/the-four-are-back-in-town/
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 03:56 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at October 15, 2015 03:56 PM (Ui7Rt)
Posted by: GBruno at October 15, 2015 03:56 PM (u49WF)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 15, 2015 03:57 PM (/tuJf)
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2015 03:46 PM (vBeA5)
Fellatio, I think.
Filatio is a rather charming Italian desert made of iced bean threads and marscapone.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2015 03:57 PM (3pRHP)
Posted by: Hillary! at October 15, 2015 03:58 PM (mcm0N)
Posted by: irright at October 15, 2015 03:59 PM (zxnPQ)
Posted by: The Prisoner, Galileo Galilei at October 15, 2015 03:59 PM (QolCq)
As Peter Burfiend says in the sidebar link:
"The very cosmic architecture that allows for argument in the first place has warped beyond recognition. We are witnesses to a logicide, the murder not just of discussion, but the possibility of any framework for discussion."
http://thefederalist.com/2015/10/14/barbarians-at-the-gates-of-realville/
The first casualty of the left is always reason. It gets in the way of what they wish to be true. Once you argue there is no absolute, objective truth then reason is utterly destroyed, and only what the most powerful tyrant or a howling mob of torch bearing lunatics decides "truth."
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 15, 2015 04:00 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jeb! at October 15, 2015 04:01 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: Bernie! at October 15, 2015 04:01 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: *censored* at October 15, 2015 04:03 PM (0dcbp)
Posted by: willow surrogate at October 15, 2015 04:03 PM (sI4OA)
Filatio is a rather charming Italian desert made of iced bean threads and marscapone.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2015 03:57 PM (3pRHP)
I blame auto correct...
Posted by: The Political Hat at October 15, 2015 04:06 PM (vBeA5)
plunka plunka plunka plunka
bunka bunka bunka bunka
Why stay in college
Why go to night school
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 04:07 PM (3nqA+)
Ahem, millions of degrees
Posted by: Albert Gore at October 15, 2015 04:13 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at October 15, 2015 04:14 PM (evdj2)
It should be illegal to point out that Obama was not being completely truthful when he said "If you like you health plan, you can keep your health plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor"...
The success of Obamacare and the health of millions is at stake...
Posted by: Haiku Guy at October 15, 2015 04:21 PM (hmj8n)
I disagree. Behavior predates language. It is not language that creates behavior. The first proto human understood that he could eat by taking food from the other member of the tribe, killing the other if necessary.
Language allows the organization of behavior, it doesn't create that contradictory interest. Nations, philosophy, religion, sure but that is the organized behavior of competition for something desired. Language facilitates, and justifies, or obscures the base desire.
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 04:23 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: Nathen Filgrim at October 15, 2015 04:29 PM (3nqA+)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at October 15, 2015 04:29 PM (OmBeX)
Posted by: Jack at October 15, 2015 04:31 PM (53CCM)
jeebus, these people are scary.
Posted by: Wisrich at October 15, 2015 04:33 PM (hdpay)
Only the names have changes..and we no longer use torches, yet.
Darkness is never far from the minds of men. What again was that powerful Asimov short story?
Posted by: Graham Cracker at October 15, 2015 05:01 PM (SJ184)
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 15, 2015 05:09 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: dogfish at October 15, 2015 05:23 PM (NuPNl)
I'm in California... so next time there's a day that's more than 2 degrees C above the average temp, both Barack Obama and Jerry Brown get thrown in jail.
Posted by: malclave at October 15, 2015 10:37 PM (2+XJK)
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