Milo: If You Want to Stop Mass Shooting, Try Treating Boys Better

Provocative piece with some truth in it, but I think it's mostly off the mark. I'll explain why after a quote (but I suggest reading the whole thing).

I might be a raging homo, but I still innately understand the male need to conquer, crush and win. Men need to express that dark, powerful part of themselves, or it can abruptly overflow. If it is suppressed, derided and ridiculed, it can show up without warning and with horrible consequences.
That’s why I'm so distressed that heterosexual men are being told, constantly, by the media and even in schools, that what they are is bad. This, I submit, is at least in part what’s driving the recent spate of shootings.
The media trash-talks everything men love: guns, booze, boisterousness, drugs, sex and video games. Economic pressures are relentlessly stripping away male spaces like the traditional pub, where blokes can drink and bond. Social pressures are opening up male-only golf and social clubs to women, destroying what made them precious and essential.
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Masculinity isn't fragile, as a spiteful, sociopathic feminist Twitter hashtag recently claimed. But -- and here’s where some man-hating feminists almost get it right-- it is powerful, and exciting, and it does have a flip-side if not properly respected. At its best, male competitiveness is the driving force behind most of society's progress. We would be nowhere without the patriarchy, from the internet and space travel to the road under your feet and the roof on your house. The same thing that drives mass shooters inspires courage, too.

It is certainly true that masculinity, and the urge to "crush and conquer" Milo mentions, is a driving force in civilization, for good for ill. If this force is not channelled into useful ends, you get ISIS -- blood, rape, war and fire.

When it's well-channelled, you get guys like Sean Spencer and Chuck Yaegher.

But here's the part where I think Milo goes wrong: Almost all men have this desire to "crush and conquer." It's deep-seeded in men. But the problem is, and the problem has always been, there are some men who are ineffectual -- losers, in the vernacular; Failed Men, men who have failed to really satisfy their sense of what a man is -- and thus are always frustrated in their primeval urges to "crush and conquer."

And radical feminism doesn't really have anything at all to do with that. Someone who wishes to be the ultimate winner, but is more like a sad loser, is going to have some very tender psychological wounds due to that fact.

And there's always this sort of Failed Man in every society. Japan has a lot of Failed Men. In Japan, there has been a response to realizing one was a Failed Man: Suicide.

In America, these Failed Men still long for suicide, but they wish to be famous, and they're lonely for company in their way to the grave.

I agree with a lot of what Milo says about the dysfunctions society creates when it insists that male traits not be directed into useful channels (such as competitiveness or honorable violence, like in the armed forces or the simulation of physical combat, sport). It causes a lot of problems.

In fact, I'd say it's the cause of common criminality among the subgroups likely to join gangs: This is their idea of being a "warrior," and society isn't offering them better alternatives into which they can work out their warrior impulses.

But these mass shootings aren't about that. They're about men who usually understand the "warrior" spirit all too well; however, understanding it is not the same as being any good at it, or being any good at anything at all, which is the problem.

These killers are full of the desire to crush and conquer, but, being losers, headcases, and diagnosable near-morons, have no chance of crushing or conquering anything.

The most they can do is shoot a bunch of unarmed people by ambush. That's really the most they can do. They sure the f*** aren't going to be building any houses or bridges. They don't have the mental equipment for that.

This particular Failed Man tried to fulfill his fantasy of being a man by joining the Army.

Surprise: He was discharged before he finished basic training. Because he was hopeless, and possibly just because he was crazy.

U.S. Army says the #UCC gunman flunked out of basic training in 2008. Failed to meet the min admin standards. pic.twitter.com/QcZ5gKhN1p
— Mireya CBS (@cbsmireya) October 2, 2015

That really doesn't have much to do with "feminization." In fact, in this particular lunatic killer's case, we might actually have wished that the progressives' project to turn men into women would have worked a little better.

I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type) or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.

They always will be a problem.

Posted by: Ace at 03:13 PM

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1 Milo: If You Want to Stop Mass Shooting, Try Treating Boys Better

*avoids obvious jokes*

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 03:18 PM (JmGFJ)

2 Nice piece Ace...

what we are witnessing is the intersection of the Omega male, and codified nay near celebrated narcissistic rage.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at October 02, 2015 03:20 PM (g8Hfr)

3 I saw Blood, Rape, War and Fire open for the Osmonds back in 1972 at the Chicago Stadium.

Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2015 03:22 PM (VndSC)

4 Code Duello would actually take a large number of these out.
But, yeah, we cana go back there.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 02, 2015 03:23 PM (RXFQJ)

5 Moral Relativism. There's your problem.

Posted by: Garrett at October 02, 2015 03:23 PM (IA54v)

6 He left out the part that most of these 'boys' were raised by single mom's. There's your sign.

Posted by: GamecockJerry at October 02, 2015 03:24 PM (YSzRR)

7 Okay, I think Milo is right in what he's saying, but that's kind of unrelated to the mass shooting thing, where I think ace is more right then Milo.

I also think the media has some culpability in how they cover these stories, and I also suspect there's probably some kind of biological thing going on here with SSRI inhibitors and other drugs that effect brain chemistry, but I don't know that for sure.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:24 PM (AkOaV)

8 deep seated >>> deep seeded

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 02, 2015 03:24 PM (JO9+V)

9 4 Posted by: Inspector Cussword at October 02, 2015 03:23 PM (RXFQJ)

If we had a healthy vibrant economy with lots of hills to conquer probably everyone down to the worst Omega male could find satisfaction to some degree...

instead we are a stagnating castrated economy thanks to the EPA and leftoids.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at October 02, 2015 03:24 PM (g8Hfr)

10 We should pass a law making it illegal to publish the name or image of mass shooters, thereby removing the fame motive from these losers.

Posted by: dkap at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (a3T4d)

11 Infamy whore.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (mcm0N)

12 These guys wouldn't have survived childhood in earlier times. Now they're NEETs who sit indoors all day playing video games, watching pron, and whining online about how hard it is to be beta. And then one snaps.

Posted by: brak at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (xwPSp)

13 Flunked out of the ARMY, the ARMY, let that sink in.

He also looks short, maybe someone who had been bullied, but maybe deserved it kinda.

Maybe killed small animals as a child.

Posted by: Max Power at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (q177U)

14 6 He left out the part that most of these 'boys' were raised by single mom's. There's your sign.
Posted by: GamecockJerry at October 02, 2015 03:24 PM (YSzRR)

yes, yes, but the overwhelming majority of kids raised in a single family household will not go out and slaughter people.

It takes a special kind of soulless fuck to do something like that.

I mean, i get the link between no dad in the house and being a petty criminal.

I don't think there is a link to something like this. Mass shootings are straight pyscho pathic behavior.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (AkOaV)

15 Constantly repeating the jackasses' name and putting up his pictures may not help. I mean, if the only name we used for spree killers was "loser," and we didn't make such a fuss about all their details and pictures in the MFM... I don't want to "memory hole" things, I don't want people deleting accounts...

And obviously some profile and psych information is useful. I mean, *this* loser had "spree killer" in neon lights suspended over him and people did nothing.

But there's his picture - he's famous. And like he idolized the lame-ass news studio killer, someone else will idolize him.

You can't really prevent someone from finding the info, so maybe it wouldn't make that much difference. I am sick of seeing his dumb-ass smug loser face (yeah, I can turn it off).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (bLnSU)

16 6 Posted by: GamecockJerry at October 02, 2015 03:24 PM (YSzRR)

Mom was more of a man than "modern men"....

mental illness baggage and all rest her soul.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (g8Hfr)

17 Don't forget where he posted his warning: a thread on 4chan for self-described "betas" waiting for the "beta uprising".

Posted by: Mr. Fosi at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (xx2Wn)

18 CNN keeps feeding the beast.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:26 PM (mcm0N)

19 10 We should pass a law making it illegal to publish the name or image of mass shooters, thereby removing the fame motive from these losers.
Posted by: dkap at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (a3T4d)

Well, not a law -- but it would behoove the media to not covered these stories like this. It just encourages others.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:26 PM (AkOaV)

20 Who is Chuck Yaegher and how pathetic does one have to be to NOT get through basic training? I somehow made it through, yet we did have two that did not (and they were really sad).

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 03:26 PM (NaeCR)

21 I am mad at Milo for the fact that I have only recently become aware of him.

Dude that awesome should have made an effort to get my attention.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 03:27 PM (JtwS4)

22 >>>"But these mass shootings aren't about that. They're about men who usually understand the "warrior" spirit all too well; however, understanding it is not the same as being any good at it, or being any good at anything at all, which is the problem."

excellent analysis

Posted by: Max Power at October 02, 2015 03:27 PM (q177U)

23 It's the 3 name thing. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, Barack Hussein Obama. All sociopaths.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 03:27 PM (/tuJf)

24 In my profession, I've seen a spike in the number of mentally ill people coming through the door. I can't explain all of it, but the rampant drug use among young to middle-aged people isn't helping things. Meth doesn't fix crazy, it makes it worse. Don't know if either of those things was a factor here, but it wouldn't surprise me. Makes no difference when some clown is shooting at you, of course.

Posted by: PabloD at October 02, 2015 03:28 PM (w0/Nj)

25 20 Who is Chuck Yaegher
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Sound barrier stud.

And he was the prototype voice that pilots try to use on the intercom after the wings fall off.

Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2015 03:28 PM (VndSC)

26 Yup yup

Here's your common sense gun law: If you cannot name your father, NO GUNZ

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 03:28 PM (3ZtZW)

27 Ace, he may be more right than you're giving credit for in that the feminization of our culture, particularly education, has exponentially increased the pool of failed men. Used to be one in 50 or something men could not find fulfillment in a job/career/family. Now it is as bad as one in 3. If the same portion of failed men lash out at society violently, the much larger pool will by itself generate many more shootings.

Posted by: pashmr at October 02, 2015 03:29 PM (3aNC4)

28 Who is Chuck Yaegher... boy that was mangled... and I met Chuck Yeager before.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (NaeCR)

29 Girl ya gotta love your man
Girl ya gotta love your man
Take him by the hand, Make him understand
The world on you depends, Our life will never end
Gotta love your man, yeah, Wow!

Posted by: Jim Morrison at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (IN7k+)

30 >>> At its best, male competitiveness is the driving force behind most of society's progress

Dick measuring contests are what gets bridges and skyscrapers built. I cannot explain dams for the life of me

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (3ZtZW)

31 Where Milo might be right is that the Failed Men of the past didn't think they could succeed in becoming famous by shooting a bunch of unarmed people by ambush, because there was a sense that many of those people would not be unarmed, and would also have the sense of manhood to fight back. In other words, their victims would neither be helpless nor ineffective. They would have the tools and the sense to end the ambush before it becomes news.

The Failed Men need to reach the definition of a mass shooting: they have to kill four people before they themselves are killed. Any less than that, and it's just local news. *Especially* if the reason it wasn't a mass shooting is because a hero with a firearm stopped it from becoming a mass shooting.

So yes, the Failed Men would still beat their wives and live on the margins until someone else on the margins killed them, or until they misjudged who else was on the margins, but they would not try to become famous by killing lots of people all at once because that would no longer be a means of becoming famous.

When I was in high school, our history teacher compared a Canadian mass murder to what would happen in America, because they had lined up to be killed. That wouldn't happen in America, because we would not line up to be killed.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (2lndx)

32 >But the problem is, and the problem has always been, there are
some men who are ineffectual -- losers, in the vernacular; Failed Men,
men who have failed to really satisfy their sense of what a man is --
and thus are always frustrated in their primeval urges to "crush and
conquer."

Posted by: A/K/A Modern Man at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (1DH1V)

33 Posted by: pashmr at October 02, 2015 03:29 PM (3aNC4)

I don't know.

Most crimes can be committed by normal people under bad circumstances.

Mass shooting like this? I really think there has to be something wrong with your brain.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (AkOaV)

34 how pathetic does one have to be to NOT get through basic training?

Worse than that if the twitters are to be believed.

I read that he washed out in 5 days.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (JtwS4)

35 Men mature and learn to socialize (with each other and the rest of humanity in general) in a different way than women do.
Not better, not worse; different.

As the matriarchy continues to try to feminize society (like women commentators for tradition men's sports, like American Football), and big corporations dig this for advertising reasons, individual men with unlearned socialization skills become more stressed.

Like GamecockJerry said above, boys raised by single moms. A lot of bad social pathology juju right there. (Barack Obama??)

Then there is just sociopathic crazy. (Barack Obama??)

I have two sons, and though they are alike, they are also different. I can see one of them might have problems because he sometimes has problems with authority and conformity (and he might also be somewhat bi-polar, because that actually runs in my wife's family- they're all nuts).

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (RFeQD)

36 I agree. Look at this list of recent mass killers:
Dylan Storm Roof, Adam Lanza, Andrew Engeldinger, James Holmes, Jared Lee Loughner, Robert Hawkins, Seung-hui Cho. They weren't killers because they were feminized men. They were killers because they were damaged men. Letting them play more sports or join the military wouldn't have helped them. They would have failed. It is there failure as men that led them to killing.

Posted by: John at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (SF7VO)

37 So Obama is 15 mins late for his presser so far...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (AkOaV)

38 Didn't meet "min admin" standards? WTF is that supposed to mean? He couldn't type?

As a veteran, I'm going to guess he was booted out of the Army under "failure to adapt to the military" and given a general (aka administrative) discharge, which would not have negatively affected him on a background check. There's some serious Gell-Mann going on in the CBS newsbabe's tweet.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (nL0sw)

39 I will say one thing Milo has right - pop culture is sickeningly misandrist. It's one of the reasons I don't have cable or a TV, and yet when I do get corralled into seeing something at someone else's, it's usually scattered with or drenched in messages about how dumb men are, or how useless or ugly, or violent or just how inferior they are.

Most people are exposed every day and don't even notice. AND it's not new, it's been that way for many years.

I don't think that makes any normal person do anything other than turn it off, or develop some mild neurosis. But borderline personalities? Particularly in that magic zone of adult onset schizophrenia, late teens to mid twenties?

Well, let's just say it probably doesn't help.

Also, there's the fact that it's just bigoted.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (bLnSU)

40 Girl ya gotta love your man
Take him by the hand, Make him understand
The world on you depends, Our life will never end
Gotta love your man, yeah, Wow!

Posted by: Jim Morrison at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (IN7k+)

41 If obozo had a brother

Posted by: Abi at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (fijdj)

42 "I'll explain why ..."

You'll explain? YOU"LL EXPLAIN!

Mansplaining patriarchal bastage.

Posted by: SJW at October 02, 2015 03:31 PM (JOG+K)

43 24 Posted by: PabloD at October 02, 2015 03:28 PM (w0/Nj)

We are frankly as a culture sick structurally.

We celebrate loserhood and demonize self-reliance.

25 Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2015 03:28 PM (VndSC)

Chuck Yeager is such a stud he'll give the angels flying lessons.

http://tinyurl.com/qys8zpv

TV Tropes-Chuck Yeager

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at October 02, 2015 03:32 PM (g8Hfr)

44 He also reminds me of gomer Pyle from Full metal Jacket

Posted by: Abi at October 02, 2015 03:33 PM (fijdj)

45 Who is Chuck Yaegher

He means Chuck Yeager.

That is what is confusing.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2015 03:34 PM (2Ocf1)

46 >>>yes, yes, but the overwhelming majority of kids raised in a single family household will not go out and slaughter people.

now apply that to your previous comment. the overwhelming majority of people on SSRIs don't commit mass murder either. but both could be factors, single moms and drugs.

Posted by: x at October 02, 2015 03:34 PM (57fhp)

47 Chris Wallace(?) just advocated the US declaring Syria a no fly zone and shooting down any Russian jets that fly over.

Yikes. I hope no one takes THAT idea seriously.

I hate cable news, I don't even know why I'm waiting for His Highness to descend down from the throne to lecture me more about guns.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:34 PM (AkOaV)

48 Feminism has something to do with it. Okay not directly but a lot of the anger comes from failure with women and some of that can be because of feminism. At least in America.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 02, 2015 03:34 PM (+lSVr)

49 In many ways, this is the story of Obama. Minus the scary shooty things and murder.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 03:35 PM (FsuaD)

50 But these mass shootings aren't about that.

Right. I think this Milo person wants to complain about one thing, and is trying to tie it to this other, mostly unrelated thing.

Guys like this scare off people (women, for sure and probably also men), because the crazy is rolling off them in waves. That's why they 'fail', imo. And then they can't figure out how to cope with it, and they can't be institutionalized, and they are just dithering around and some of them are going to snap.

Posted by: Lea at October 02, 2015 03:35 PM (lIU4e)

51 The Modern man is a Failed Man.

Posted by: MWTexas at October 02, 2015 03:35 PM (N05oL)

52 now apply that to your previous comment. the overwhelming majority of people on SSRIs don't commit mass murder either. but both could be factors, single moms and drugs.
Posted by: x at October 02, 2015 03:34 PM (57fhp)

Could be, I suppose.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:35 PM (AkOaV)

53 it occurs to me that someone who does that kind of crime and actually escapes and goes into hiding -- if he did it to be famous and the news media simply referred to him as 'that guy' -- you think he might decide to try it again?

Posted by: mallfly at October 02, 2015 03:36 PM (qSIlh)

54 ...but both could be factors, single moms and drugs.
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By mass murder, do you also mean hundreds per year in the urban jungles? Because, then yes.

Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2015 03:36 PM (VndSC)

55 it's pretty hard to wash out of basic. some guys try but the military has played the game longer than they have. this guy must have had a lot of red flags.

Posted by: x at October 02, 2015 03:36 PM (57fhp)

56 I have a sense of regret that I ever gave this clown the benefit of the doubt that he might actually be some kind of legitimate holy man.

He's just a run of the mill leftist politician in a funny hat.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at October 02, 2015 03:36 PM (BZAd3)

57 This is easy. Explains a lot, aka Chicago killings.

Black man, no dad.

Thanks LBJ, the "Great Society" is working just great.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 02, 2015 03:37 PM (jJRIy)

58 how pathetic does one have to be to NOT get through basic training?

To be fair, basic is:

A) Not supposed to be easy (evidence of current status to the contrary)

2) Is intended not only to train people at a basic level, is also intended to weed out people who can't hack it

III) Is not supposed to be easy (evidence of current status to the contrary)

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:37 PM (nL0sw)

59 Breaking news: Obama is now 20 minutes late, but says hes coming out to lecture us now.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:38 PM (AkOaV)

60 As to the min admin - he mihgt not have met PT standards, he might have just been a super special snowflake who couldn't make it.

Sometimes they do that.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2015 03:38 PM (2Ocf1)

61 oh, arne duncan is out? who cares?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:38 PM (AkOaV)

62 I just got the urge to down a half bottle of--

Jägermeister.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:39 PM (mcm0N)

63 Aaaannnd on goes the "mute" button.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 03:39 PM (FsuaD)

64 "yes, yes, but the overwhelming majority of kids raised in a single family household will not go out and slaughter people. "

This is true, but an alarmingly high number of gang bangers have single mothers. Many of them join to keep from getting their asses kicked by other gangs, but many also need some form a masculine influence in their lives, so they find the most toxic influence they can.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 02, 2015 03:39 PM (c+vBe)

65 Breaking news: Obama is now 20 minutes late, but says hes coming out to lecture us now.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:38 PM (AkOaV)

Of the closet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:39 PM (493sH)

66 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type) or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.

They always will be a problem.

Posted by: Ace at 03:13 PM

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Excellent article about Harry Reid

Posted by: Stay out da bushes at October 02, 2015 03:39 PM (uRumV)

67 Agree with Ace...

The fact is, patriarchy built the civilized, modern world. There's a reason for that. And it's good to see it pointed out. Should be said more, and louder.

But don't apply it to this case.

Posted by: CJ at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (9KqcB)

68 F you pixy and your umlaut suppression!

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (mcm0N)

69 St. Louis mayoral candidate and Black Lives Matter protest leader Umar Lee wants to replace law enforcement with street gangs to patrol neighborhoods of St. Louis.

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What a moron!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (iQIUe)

70 We should pass a law making it illegal to publish the name or image of mass shooters, thereby removing the fame motive from these losers.

Posted by: dkap at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (a3T4d)

Yeah, riggght. And last night, when this was all going down, Morons here were clamoring to learn the perp's name so they could perhaps discover some motive. Can't have it both ways.

Instead, make it a law that those perp's names never be published, on paper, or online, without the prefix "Mewling Quim".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (0yhH4)

71 Modern Socialist (Public) Education tends to focus upon getting kids to ignore their individual development in favor of learning to be a polite member of the collective (society).

Lost in this feel good socialist indoctrination process are various moral and self reliant skill developments at the individual level -- especially when it comes to males, but it's not exclusive.

Most healthy well adjusted kids find a work around in sports, social media or other avenues.

However, there are exceptions who appear to dig themselves into a hole full of dark forces that eventually compact down to an explosion. These problems have been around forever, however, it's likely that the current educational system tends to exacerbate these problems via some sort of alienation problem.

Posted by: Seipherd at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (puxmh)

72 We don't have to supply a narrative for everything. Some people are just bent. Blaming it on SJWs or MSNBC is stupid and lazy.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (+lsX1)

73 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a
problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type)
or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.

You left out Bronco Bama.

Posted by: Toonces the Cat at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (e7T6D)

74 As to the min admin - he mihgt not have met PT standards, he might have just been a super special snowflake who couldn't make it.

Sometimes they do that.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2015 03:38 PM (2Ocf1)

You know you don't have to meet regular PT standards to graduate Army basic these days, right? They give you until the end of AIT to get yourself to the minimum standard now.

I think the kid was just a massive failure to adapt.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:41 PM (nL0sw)

75 Okay, I think Milo is right in what he's saying, but that's kind of unrelated to the mass shooting thing, where I think ace is more right then Milo.

I agree. These kinds of crimes are rare and have much bigger issues than what Milo is talking about.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2015 03:41 PM (Xd2w5)

76 Well, I'm glad Milo is bringing this up - that our culture has pretty much redefined normal, male behavior in boys and men as dysfunctional.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 03:41 PM (NOIQH)

77 "Is intended not only to train people at a basic level, is also intended to weed out people who can't hack it "

True, but if you can't hack it, that's not saying much for your masculine prowess. Army basic training isn't easy, but it's hardly the agoge in Sparta, either. I went through training with guys that could barely tie their shoes, and they somehow passed it.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 02, 2015 03:42 PM (c+vBe)

78 Where Milo might be right is that the Failed Men of the past didn't think they could succeed in becoming famous by shooting a bunch of unarmed people by ambush

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They became infamous and everyone knew their names - as Cowards.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 03:42 PM (3ZtZW)

79 76 Well, I'm glad Milo is bringing this up - that our culture has pretty much redefined normal, male behavior in boys and men as dysfunctional.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 03:41 PM (NOIQH)

it's funny how we need a gay greek who lives in London to defend heterosexual american men.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:42 PM (AkOaV)

80 I might also mention that for a long time people learned that they weren't capable of becoming anything they wanted and so the vast majority adapted to life as one of the average people who went to work, got married, had a family, etc. (Reminds me of an "Unhappily Ever After" episode in which the younger son learns he has an average IQ and then learns that being average makes him part of the world's largest team.)
And now, imagine spending all those years in school where everyone wins and no one loses, where you could do math however you wanted so long as you were interested in math, etc, and then you finally get into the real world and reality slams you in the head. God only knows I would have cracked up if I wasn't so superior.

Posted by: mallfly at October 02, 2015 03:43 PM (qSIlh)

81 34
how pathetic does one have to be to NOT get through basic training?

Worse than that if the twitters are to be believed.

I read that he washed out in 5 days.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (JtwS4)

It's no great surprise if the cockroaches were so unsettling for him. Whoever thought it was a great idea for him to join the Army. Sounds like the guy was surrounded by FAIL.

Posted by: A/K/A Modern Man at October 02, 2015 03:43 PM (1DH1V)

82 Just heard the recording of the news conference with the college president.

Unreal.

"We are responsible for the safety of our students."

"One security guard armed with mace."

"Guns are not allowed on campus."

Yep, you are responsible all righty. Responsible for getting nine students slaughtered.

Link in nic

Posted by: rd at October 02, 2015 03:43 PM (SukjU)

83 Is the JEF lecturing us again? I can't watch/listen. He's such a smug little poofter.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 03:43 PM (FsuaD)

84 Milo is so gung-ho pro-male it's turned him into a fag.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 02, 2015 03:44 PM (E5UB0)

85 Well ya blaming MSNBC is a little much because-- who is watching?

CNN which passes judgment all around--could use a check or two.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:44 PM (mcm0N)

86 St. Louis mayoral candidate and Black Lives Matter protest leader Umar Lee wants to replace law enforcement with street gangs to patrol neighborhoods of St. Louis.

Rolling Stones at Altamont: Sounds like a good plan. What could go wrong?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:44 PM (493sH)

87 Feminism has something to do with it. Okay not
directly but a lot of the anger comes from failure with women and some
of that can be because of feminism. At least in America.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky

I will say one more thing that will probably anger some people, but I have found it to be pragmatically true.
There can be a lot more workplace stress when there are too many women working in the same place; factory, office, whatever.

If the fraction of women in a workplace is over 25-30%, workplace stress goes up quite a bit. I once worked at a company where about 50-60% of the workers were women, and sometimes it was just hellish at work. Most of the women were actually very nice and likeable, but there is always a fraction that liked to stir up the shit.
The other end, if almost all the workplace is women (> 90%), then the stress among women goes down, but a man has to really conform to the women's ideas of "behavior" to fit in and survive.

What this has to do with a mass shooter, is probably totally off topic. But who know where this thing is going today?

I think this guy was just a sociopathic asshole, and the symptoms should not be confused with causation.
Single mom? check; but that may be another symptom
General Discharge from the Army (basic): another symptom that he had serious behavioral problems.

Indeed, he was a loser male, who had no idea how to fit into society, and at the end, validated his identity with murder. Suicide by murder. That's how these things almost always end.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at October 02, 2015 03:44 PM (RFeQD)

88 We don't have to supply a narrative for everything. Some people are just bent. Blaming it on SJWs or MSNBC is stupid and lazy.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 02, 2015 03:40 PM (+lsX1)

Reminds me of Jeff Foxworthy saying that just once he wishes some criminal would be on TV and, instead of blaming his parents or society, would say: "My mamma was great, my daddy was great, I'm just a shithead."

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:44 PM (nL0sw)

89 Nature gave men a desire to have sex constantly, which involved conquering and subduing. Since Nature couldn't make men selective in the sense of confining their impulses, it had to make do with hoping that this nature would be more constructive than destructive.
There had to be constant sex because of the scarcity of human beings.
Now men have the leisure to be selective, but their natures are still wild and unrestrained. This explains most of what happens on this earth when humans are in contact with other humans. It explains homosexuality, brutality towards women and other men. Science and nature are wild and without bounds.

Posted by: Graham Cracker at October 02, 2015 03:45 PM (SJ184)

90 I went through training with guys that could barely tie their shoes, and they somehow passed it.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 02, 2015 03:42 PM (c+vBe)
And at least they tried. Then you got the slugs who would just curl up in a ball and die if momma was not spoon feeding them their whole life.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 03:45 PM (NaeCR)

91 >I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type) or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.

Milo seems to know what the do. As he's remarked, it's funny that a gay man with fantastic hair is one of the only one willing to say that men are treated like shit in society, and they need better encouragement. And not the progressives' brand of it either.

Just like how, amazingly, it falls to the boorish asshole Trump to take a stand against political correctness, or in favor of a border wall.

>In fact, in this particular lunatic killer's case, we might actually have wished that the progressives' project to turn men into women would have worked a little better.

Anyone who has a sincere thought like this should ask themselves if, perhaps, the project had some success in their own case, and if that was a good thing.

Posted by: Crude at October 02, 2015 03:45 PM (DUynq)

92 Is the JEF lecturing us again? I can't watch/listen. He's such a smug little poofter.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 03:43 PM (FsuaD)

He's lecturing over what? That Putin is doing whatever the hell he wants and knows that Barry is a gutless pansy.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:45 PM (493sH)

93 >>We don't have to supply a narrative for everything. Some people are just bent. Blaming it on SJWs or MSNBC is stupid and lazy.

It's countering the prevalent Lefty narratives.
While I agree it doesn't apply in this particular case, there has been a huge cultural shift of hostility toward traditional, normal male behavior.

I am down with some pushback, good and hard ***especially*** when the MSM and prezzy are forcing a national debate on us about their theory: guns cause this.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 03:45 PM (NOIQH)

94 Yeah sure, but failed men used to have an ideal to try to live up to. There was an *Honer* to being a man. In Japan, that may have meant suicide, but all over there was n honer and a set of principals and if someone failed at building the bridge, they still could be "a man."

Feminism has denigrated that honer. Now the alternative to building the bridge is to be a "modern man" and keep your vagina fresh smelling like that nyt article states.

So I think Ace has a point, but Milo's point is still valid.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 02, 2015 03:45 PM (LWu6U)

95 70
I'm starting to think something similar. We need to bring back public shaming for things like these.

Posted by: joe at October 02, 2015 03:46 PM (7SsFF)

96
this guy was also exceissvely bothered by ciggarette smoke and cockroaches to the point his mother had to intervene with the neighbors

he was nuts

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:46 PM (zOTsN)

97 Oh god, Arne Duncan is crying.

Like a "modern man" I guess.

What in the fuck is up with men crying on TV over trivial shit?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:46 PM (AkOaV)

98 And at least they tried. Then you got the slugs who would just curl up in a ball and die if momma was not spoon feeding them their whole life.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 03:45 PM (NaeCR)

Pajama Boy: H8er!!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:46 PM (493sH)

99 I basically had ace's take when I read this piece. I do agree that more positive male role models might help eliminate some of this behavior.

That said, this culture is exceedingly hostile to males generally and white males particularly. The constant denigration doesn't effect me because I'm a fully grown man, but I do worry about my boys and hope that I can instill within them a "ehhh, fuck you" type of self confidence.

Posted by: Warden at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (wHAYQ)

100 But the problem is, and the problem has always been, there are some men who are ineffectual -- losers, in the vernacular; Failed Men, men who have failed to really satisfy their sense of what a man is -- and thus are always frustrated in their primeval urges to "crush and conquer.
---------------------------------------------------
I get the feeling ace is emoting about how tough it is to be an Ewok.

/kidding!

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (E5UB0)

101 Breaking news: Obama is now 20 minutes late, but says hes coming out to lecture us now.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

I hope he's not disappointed in us again. I couldn't take that, not on a Friday.

Posted by: Bruce at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (8ikIW)

102 Even if our society treated men respectfully and regarded masculinity as a good thing, you would still have problems like this.

Some people have demons, demons that no amount of fair treatment, respect, or love is going to get through to. Those people will do evil things. And that is part of the human condition that I don't have an answer for.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pumpkin Flavored Tempests are in Our Teapots at the Outrage Outlet! at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (hLRSq)

103 how pathetic does one have to be to NOT get through basic training?

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Picture if you're a DI and one of your recruits is happily chattering about killing loads of innocents. And freaking out other recruits. You'd prolly request an admin.

Or, you know, maybe he kept shitting his pants. Who knows

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (3ZtZW)

104 Fuck Barry. I am wore out with his minstrel show.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (ucDmr)

105 Worse than that if the twitters are to be believed.

I read that he washed out in 5 days.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 03:30 PM (JtwS4)

It's no great surprise if the cockroaches were so unsettling for him. Whoever thought it was a great idea for him to join the Army. Sounds like the guy was surrounded by FAIL.

Oh, I need to amend that.

"A review of Army records indicate that Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer was in service at Ft. Jackson, S.C., from 5 November-11 December 2008 but discharged for failing to meet the minimum administrative standards to serve in the U.S. Army," the Pentagon said in a news release.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (JtwS4)

106 Maybe he did it because he was evil.

There is a lot of evil,in this world

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (UiGnh)

107 Oh god, Arne Duncan is crying.

And Obama keeps wiping his finger all over his face.
(Obama's face not Arne's)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (W5DcG)

108 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type) or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.

They always will be a problem.

Posted by: Ace

Failed Men used to be remanded to a frontier, to live and fail without having contact with the bulk of society. The problem is that there aren't any obvious frontiers left.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (JmGFJ)

109 When everything's a microaggression, a lot of people are going to perceive themselves as victims and some are going to lash out, especially if their nuts to start with.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (TJCSB)

110 Shep is apologizing that we have to watch that idiot Arne Duncan cry on TV like we give a shit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (AkOaV)

111 I am sure he washed out because of some sort of psych diagnosis like Borderline Personality Disorder

you see that on guys who wash out of basic and are a bit "off"

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (zOTsN)

112 That's why they 'fail', imo. And then they can't figure out how to cope with it, and they can't be institutionalized, and they are just dithering around and some of them are going to snap.

Posted by: Lea at October 02, 2015 03:35 PM (lIU4e)

I knew a few guys like that in the Navy. I never wanted to push them too hard, because I felt like they had the capacity to snap and go postal. At least two washed out, dishonorable discharges.

Posted by: A/K/A Modern Man at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (1DH1V)

113 SO who's the Sect. of Ed?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (NOIQH)

114 Or, you know, maybe he kept shitting his pants. Who knows

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (3ZtZW)

Honestly, my first thought when I saw that he washed out (no pun intended) of basic was, "He must have been a bedwetter."

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (nL0sw)

115
For a quick admin discharge like that, he might have failed his first piss test at basic. Pissed clean when he applied, but they generally hit you up the first week for another one, if memory serves.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (UBLhq)

116 >>We don't have to supply a narrative for everything. Some people
are just bent. Blaming it on SJWs or MSNBC is stupid and lazy.

But something has gone wrong in modern society. This is not knee jerk finger pointing, but trying to understand why this is happening today. It seems like it is more than just demographics or better media coverage. It seems like it is more common.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (LWu6U)

117 How is Failed Man's news conference?

Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (VndSC)

118 Hell, Chelsea Manning made in through Army basic, this guy must have been a total puss.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (oDCMR)

119 Milo is more right than wrong. These mass shooters are almost to a man lonely, disenfranchised men with little or no love life. They feel out of place and ignored, even disdained. The culture is a MAJOR factor in creating this condition and no, this level of it has not always been the case.

When I was growing up I never felt ostracized by society itself even though I wasn't the most popular guy around. People didn't hate me just because I was a white male. That has changed. Men who feel useless lash out. Hell, even suicide bombers have this trait.

I think Ace is underestimating the effect of the feminized culture here. Not all of us can be beta male feminist pussies after all.

Posted by: Dan Stevens at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (Bcqod)

120
I don't think it will be that long before most men will be forced to be Men in this country to protect themselves and their families. It could be they already are, but we are too much into what the hollywood culture is proposing. High Info Commentors and such.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (ODxAs)

121

he was in for a month

bet he was evaluated by the post psych

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (zOTsN)

122 >>>That really doesn't have much to do with "feminization." In fact, in this particular lunatic killer's case, we might actually have wished that the progressives' project to turn men into women would have worked a little better.
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If only he had read the Modern Man article, none of this would have happened. NYT should be sued for not publishing it earlier.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (E5UB0)

123 WTF is Arne Duncan? I must plead ignorance here.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (ucDmr)

124 97
Oh god, Arne Duncan is crying.

Like a "modern man" I guess.

What in the fuck is up with men crying on TV over trivial shit?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:46 PM (AkOaV)

Yeesh. Maybe he's crying because he's going back to Chicago.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (FsuaD)

125 So, his bio father is a brit and he idolized the IRA?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (iQIUe)

126 A lot of ink and pixels are being spent to describe what used to be called "crazy".

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (ppaKI)

127 123 WTF is Arne Duncan?
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He owns a Chicago donut franchise.

Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2015 03:51 PM (VndSC)

128 "A review of Army records indicate that Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer was in service at Ft. Jackson, S.C., from 5 November-11 December 2008 but discharged for failing to meet the minimum administrative standards to serve in the U.S. Army," the Pentagon said in a news release.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (JtwS4)

So, he couldn't even handle Relaxin' at Jackson.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:51 PM (nL0sw)

129 I think too it is the left meme's that feed other-ness to non-Christians. So without an ethos or moral code, the loner shithead despises the other, the ones that he thinks have things figured out, ie, belief in religion, Christ, and so he/she grows not only to ashew that, but to resent it and to mock it. Then ultimately the insane take it to the next level when they act out. Notice, these fucktards don't go murdering Muslims... no.. it's Christians they're mad at, (if a religious motive exists ).

It's the otherness doctrine and the left has especially used this is media and shows and campaigns... not respect for fellow citizen or human, but tribalism and derision.. It's too easy to blame single Moms' because a lot of us grew up that way. Most young men are fine. It's the signals that are always seen and dismissed.... and the way our pop-culture has devolved to a base level that I think enables the insane or weak minded to lash out.

Posted by: Toonces the Cat at October 02, 2015 03:51 PM (e7T6D)

130 I'm starting to think something similar. We need to bring back public shaming for things like these.

Posted by: joe at October 02, 2015 03:46 PM (7SsFF)

Last weekend I saw the movie Metropolitan (25th anniversary re-release). There's a scene with a trashy girl character says, This is so embarrassing. And a guy character says, A little embarrassment would do you good.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:51 PM (493sH)

131 I disagree with Milo. These guys are nuts, and there have always been nuts. With the internet other nuts can gather and encourage each other to do nutty things, and reinforce each other

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:51 PM (zOTsN)

132 Arne Duncan is the secretary of education. Also a bumbling idiot.

Posted by: Gaff at October 02, 2015 03:51 PM (jPS2y)

133 >>> I still innately understand the male need to conquer, crush and win
----

in the war against my genitals.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 02, 2015 03:52 PM (E5UB0)

134 116 Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (LWu6U)

We are a society that can't name the medal of honor recipients unless we are military types but venerates "Caitlyn" Jenner...

there is a structural rot in our system, and this rot has been willfully introduced.

Posted by: Sven S Blade a.k.a. El Assassin@sven10077 at October 02, 2015 03:52 PM (g8Hfr)

135 113 SO who's the Sect. of Ed?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (NOIQH)

Some new guy.

From Brooklyn.

That's all I picked up.

Honestly, I don't even think the Department of Education should exist in the first place.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:52 PM (AkOaV)

136 With the internet other nuts can gather and encourage each other to do nutty things, and reinforce each other
Posted by: ThunderB
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We need common sense internet control. Obviously.

Posted by: Roy at October 02, 2015 03:52 PM (VndSC)

137 106 Maybe he did it because he was evil.

There is a lot of evil,in this world

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (UiGnh)

The guy did this strictly for satanic purposes,' the source tells PEOPLE. 'He did it to become a god in hell. He wants to be evil. That is his goal, to serve Satan.' Mercer allegedly singled out Christians during his massacre, asking people to state their religion and shooting those who identified as Christians in the head.

The source adds: 'The only thing I've seen that came close to this type of devotion to Satan is the 'Night Stalker' in Los Angeles,' referring to Richard Ramirez, a serial killer who murdered at least 13 people over the course of two years in the 1980s.
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Yep. Typical conservative republican there.

http://tinyurl.com/qe3m5dm

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 02, 2015 03:52 PM (fWAjv)

138 He was diagnosed with Asbergers supposedly.

Also he was institutionalized when he was younger according to Daily Mail.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (mcm0N)

139 When is Choom Boy going to declare Syria to be a raging success?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (FsuaD)

140 Maybe he did it because he was evil.

There is a lot of evil,in this world

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian, Model Citizen at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (UiGnh)
==========================
Some people don't believe in evil. It's because mama/ not a mama, or dad/ not a dad, or medication/ or not medicated, or poor/ or spoiled rich, or or or or
Never evil.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (dFi94)

141 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (GwIKd)

142 Also he was institutionalized when he was younger according to Daily Mail.
Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (mcm0N)

...then he shouldn't have been able to get a gun, right?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (AkOaV)

143 118,000 jobs created Bitchez.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (48QDY)

144 Fox Business just went to Barry's speech. The MFM in the room are laughing like idiots at everything he says. The Beatles in 1964 didn't have this kind of adoring fans.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (493sH)

145 10 We should pass a law making it illegal to publish the name or image
of mass shooters, thereby removing the fame motive from these losers.

Posted by: dkap at October 02, 2015 03:25 PM (a3T4d)

Who are you kidding? our special snowflake in the whitehouse just "challenged" the media to give BETTER coverage to these assholes.

Kind of a fastandfurious II

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 02, 2015 03:54 PM (LWu6U)

146
The problem really is theinability to involuntarily commit people anymore. We literally have lunatics running around on the streets, able to purchase firearms. Go back though each and every one of these guys and you find 1) serious mental illness 2) drug abuse.
There are several studies that show crime rates, especially murder rates, are directly proportional to the number of mental hospitals a nation has.
Deinstitutionalization startedin the1960s, moving psychiatric patients from hospital settings to less restricting settings in the community. This has directly leadto massive numbers of people injails and prisons or becoming homeless.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at October 02, 2015 03:54 PM (VPvxh)

147 Oh, Obamas yammering on about how many balls Congress sucks and how they might kill his awesome recovery.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:54 PM (AkOaV)

148 nuts pat little nutso Clock Boy on the head

nuts idolize that asshole Lester Flanagan and the Aurora Colorado shooter

nuts try to marry Charles Manson

there have always been nuts. The issue is what do you do with them

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:54 PM (zOTsN)

149 Or, you know, maybe he kept shitting his pants. Who knows

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 03:47 PM (3ZtZW)

More likely than talk about killing babies.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 03:54 PM (NaeCR)

150 Shit misspelled Aspergers.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:54 PM (mcm0N)

151 This shooter target Christians. This shooter comes from Oregon and attended college there. Oregon and colleges are very liberal.

I'm drawing a connection there. You will see more of these shootings targeting Christians as liberalism becomes more and more hostile to Christianity.

Posted by: Ed at October 02, 2015 03:55 PM (C+qQ0)

152 Also relevant to this discussion.

http://tinyurl.com/q7exfsf

Posted by: Warden at October 02, 2015 03:55 PM (wHAYQ)

153 144
Fox Business just went to Barry's speech. The MFM in the room are
laughing like idiots at everything he says. The Beatles in 1964 didn't
have this kind of adoring fans.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (493sH)

I actually hate the MFM more than Choom Boy. If that's even possible.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 03:55 PM (FsuaD)

154 Well, no answer other than to commit the crazies, that is. Remember Aaron Alexis? Shot up the Washington Navy Yard? He went to the police to complain about the voices in his head and nobody did anything.

(I think that was the name.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Pumpkin Flavored Tempests are in Our Teapots at the Outrage Outlet! at October 02, 2015 03:55 PM (hLRSq)

155 Barry just said something about people and manufactured crisis.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (493sH)

156 Also he was institutionalized when he was younger according to Daily Mail.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (mcm0N)

I forgot about that. It would explain the admin discharge from the Army. Dollars to doughnuts he concealed that from the recruiter. Also possible he was on meds and the nuttiness didn't manifest or become obvious until he had been off them for a few weeks while in basic.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (nL0sw)

157 CREATE GOOD MEN

that's the answer to what to do about failed men

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (SsYt1)

158 *squirt*

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (/f6Nd)

159 I mean Obama just sounds pathetic at this point.

Keeps saying the same shit over and over and over again. 6 years of this shit.

Yawn.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (AkOaV)

160
Celebrity culture, narcissism, moral relativism and you getmorelosers than we used to have. You always had losers before, and they did horrible things, but it wasn't as bad as it is now. Today's losers are celebrated as "ultra losers" by the mediawhich is kind of a sick win for a loser. That attracts other losers.
Also, Milo probably has a point that society has created more male losers now than in the past because the weird and shifting standards of male behavior that are antithetical to male biology/self respect. So the pool of losers is bigger today, I suspect.
Andlosers see this type ofbehavior as a victory in a sense as they are competing to see who is the "ultra loser". Also, chicks dig mass murders but you have to survive your crime spree.The Colorado theatre shooter guy gets letter from women now, which is attention he didn't get before he shot anyone. There are some sick women out there.

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (5vV+V)

161 what is an administrative discharge?

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (SsYt1)

162 126
A lot of ink and pixels are being spent to describe what used to be called "crazy".

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (ppaKI)

Thread winner.

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 02, 2015 03:57 PM (jJRIy)

163 127: Must know Al Bundy then.

Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at October 02, 2015 03:57 PM (ucDmr)

164 Navy Yard shooter - nuts

Connecticut shooter - nuts

Aurora shooter - nuts

Gabby Giffords shooter - nuts

Lester Flanagan - nuts AND racist

this guy - prolly nuts

call it evil

what do you do with them

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:57 PM (zOTsN)

165 Harry

My understanding was it was when he was younger, so could be part of his juvenile records which gets weird.

Thunder B might have knowledge in that department.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:57 PM (mcm0N)

166 151 I recall the Columbine shooters mocked a Christian girl as she professed her faith before they killed her. Sociopaths seem to have some sort of natural revulsion towards Jesus.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 03:57 PM (Ypc8j)

167 Lefties preach hate, hate, hate then when one goes out and commits murder if not mass murder they cry make weapons harder to get.

Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2015 03:57 PM (HbCsM)

168

the Indian kid who shot all his friends so they could go to the happy hunting ground with him - prolly nuts

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:57 PM (zOTsN)

169 Obamas asking for more money for the military.

Because our military would go back to 2006 otherwise.... and we can't go back to 2006 spending for some reason.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:58 PM (AkOaV)

170 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type) or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.

They always will be a problem.

Posted by: Ace at 03:13 PM

We should look at the UK which is coincidentally where this shitbird was from.

The UK seems to have large number of these layabouts on the dole, and they have had them for a long time

To which I might say, how's that working for them?

I would say not so much.

When I was stationed in Europe in the early 90s one of the big differences I noticed between us and them was that they married later and they y lived at home longer.

This is happening here now.

Part of hte problem is student debt - 2 recent college grads could be several hundred thousand dollars in debt right from the start. It is hard to pull off.

Being out on your own generates a lot of commerce and productivity. If you have payments to mke you really can't spend all day playing Xbox.

You don't need your own TV or couch if you are using Mom and Dad's. You don't need a car. And if you are gettig married larer you are starting on families later, which will mean you have less.

You can get away with that for a while. But eventually you have to bring more vital and fecund people to take up the slack.

See Germany.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2015 03:58 PM (2Ocf1)

171 125 So, his bio father is a brit and he idolized the IRA?

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I don't get the impression that he was bright enough to understand how tidy that was. To him the IRA just blew shit up and kicked ass (though they failed too...)

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 02, 2015 03:58 PM (GvNnD)

172
Hell, Chelsea Manning made in through Army basic, this guy must have been a total puss.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 03:49 PM (oDCMR)

Chelsea kept his/her/its eye on the prize - all the man chowder after graduation s/he/it could guzzle.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 03:58 PM (NaeCR)

173
If those evil republican's would only sit down, shut up, and enact the entirety of my agenda, America can progress further towards the Utopian model I so desire.

Posted by: Hussein Obama the Magnificent at October 02, 2015 03:58 PM (OiFtZ)

174 This may have been covered but zero tolerance and anti bullying programs feed this problem too. When defending yourself against a bully is punished just as harshly as the instigator is punished. You end up bottling rage for later explosive results. Not a specific read to this occurance just a general rant against the stupid zero tolerance policies currently in place. That IMO do more damage than good.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 02, 2015 03:58 PM (tf9Ne)

175 Didn't meet "min admin" standards? WTF is that supposed to mean? He couldn't type?

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I've met one during my Navy time. Guy was like Baby Huey. No maturity to him, cried at everything.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 03:58 PM (3ZtZW)

176 Captain Wilton Parmetter comes to mind for some reason.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 02, 2015 03:59 PM (KW1mm)

177 "since I got to office, we cut the deficit by 2/3"

which is true if use his stimulus as the baseline.

If you use the last budget Bush signed, we're still up by a significant amount.

I love how the press just repeats this shit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:59 PM (AkOaV)

178 "I cannot explain dams for the life of me"

when you pass the age of 50, you'll understand the appeal

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 03:59 PM (SsYt1)

179 You need to get Milo on the podcast. Would be high entertainment for everyone involved.

Posted by: Jabari at October 02, 2015 03:59 PM (nTcPD)

180 Country Singer

Yep.

Information was at the Daily Mail haven't seen it anywhere else.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:59 PM (mcm0N)

181 ...then he shouldn't have been able to get a gun, right?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (AkOaV)

Depends on how it was adjudicated after his release/treatment.

Instructions for 11(f) apply: https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:59 PM (nL0sw)

182 They always will be a problem.

Posted by: Ace at 03:13 PM

___________

Exactly. Just like we will always drunk driving no matter how strict drunk driving laws are. And we will always have theft and rape and murder and all sorts of bad things in society.

What leftists never understand is that all the regulations in the world can't stop bad behavior by humans.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 02, 2015 03:59 PM (0LHZx)

183 Deuce its cut most in forty years.

Yammering. Half a million jobs next year. Wow. 40K a month.

The meds will wear off in 3.2.1...

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:00 PM (48QDY)

184 Why don't we give PP money to military and everyone will be happy?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:00 PM (oDCMR)

185 It is really a different society. Internet porn is creating a reverse Lysistrata and women aren't noticing. And it's not just antisocial beta males either.

Sure, betas are afraid of women and never get the girl but alphas get the girl and are either accused of rape or are beaten down by the woman if he stays in a relationship.

Which he has every reason not to.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2015 04:00 PM (Xd2w5)

186 It may be as simple as this: nutbars tend to emulate other nutbars. This one specifically name checks Vester Flannagan

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 02, 2015 04:00 PM (GvNnD)

187 Whatever happened to just ignoring these monsters?

Posted by: DaveA at October 02, 2015 04:00 PM (DL2i+)

188 142
Also he was institutionalized when he was younger according to Daily Mail.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 03:53 PM (mcm0N)

...then he shouldn't have been able to get a gun, right?

That all depends. Usually if someone checks himself in and gets out within a few days, he is clear to purchase a gun. If he is forced into a facility because he is a danger to himself or others, then I believe he can't.

Posted by: Wendy at October 02, 2015 04:00 PM (bpemY)

189 Arne Duncan is the secretary of education. Also a bumbling idiot.

Ph.D. in sociology, so he's a professional idiot.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (Xd2w5)

190 Deuce? Really? Deficits.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (48QDY)

191 Oh, this is a good one by Obama.

Voxplaining how the whole Syria thing unraveled.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (AkOaV)

192
Still haven't heard anyone in the media use the magic words: Hate Crime.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (ODxAs)

193 Barry is trying to explain Syria. There are a lot of long pauses because he has no idea what he's talking about

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (493sH)

194 If you are a single mother and you have a son who is a problematic little shit, perhaps you shouldn't enabling him gunwise? I think that Lanza and Mercer have now shown that to be a very bad idea. I do wonder why Mercer spared his mother.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (kXoT0)

195 I just went to my local hardware store, (hardware, fresh eggs, guns, ammo. you have to diversify in the country), now, we are in the middle of flooding rains so I don't suspect most folks are out if they don't have to be, but there were several people there buying guns. Not looking, actually doing the paperwork. Two different women and an older couple. I can imagine today is like that everywhere and it might be a record sales day.

Posted by: traye at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (l9Yov)

196 "What leftists never understand"

is a lot

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:02 PM (SsYt1)

197 191
Oh, this is a good one by Obama.

Voxplaining how the whole Syria thing unraveled.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (AkOaV)

Thank you for listening to the babbling idiot and taking one for the team.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:02 PM (FsuaD)

198 Another big factor is that many people have become disconnected from society. People used to need family, neighbours, etc. to survive. You used to have to have a job, and fear losing it. Lived with your family and siblings, and were part of something that you did not want to embarrass even if you did hate the world enough to go postal.
Now families are smaller with fewer children, and fewer mulitgenerational living situations. Jobs are disposable and no one starves because they become disconnected from society like in the past.

In the past, the ones that wanted to live as hermits moved into the wilderness where they had no one to shoot up but raccoons. Now they move into an apartment, spend their days on the internet, and wallow in their failure looking for something to shoot up. like travis bickle

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at October 02, 2015 04:02 PM (LWu6U)

199 He's wandering off into the swamp here. This won't turn out well.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:02 PM (48QDY)

200 what is an administrative discharge?

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 03:56 PM (SsYt1)

It is a discharge for administrative reasons, not for conduct or whatever.

Back in the day, for example, women could get an administrative discharge for being pregnant. You might get put out for being overweight - that is administrative. Gay used to be an administrative discharge. Failing PT tests. Or failure to perform.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2015 04:02 PM (2Ocf1)

201 Country Singer I bet you are right

went off meds in basic

released the nuttyness

sent him to a psych

found out about the previous childhood therapeudic stay

had to choose between discharge for personality disorder or admin discharge for not meeting standards (concealing the therapeudic stay)

went with the latter

administrative discharge is a non criminal discharge

he had only been at basic for a month, his discharge is prolly "uncharacterized", meaning neither honorable or general. He wasnt in long enough to have a discharge characterization

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:02 PM (zOTsN)

202 Obama is now saying Assad is going to transition.

I wonder if he means like Bruce Jenner... or what?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:03 PM (AkOaV)

203 Oh, I get it -- now Obama's saying he'll take Putins deal from 4 years ago where Assad abdicates (if you will).

Yeah, probably too late for that Obama.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:03 PM (AkOaV)

204 I doubt crimes against Christians are hate crimes in the lefty book.

Posted by: Skip at October 02, 2015 04:03 PM (HbCsM)

205 194 If you are a single mother and you have a son who is a problematic little shit, perhaps you shouldn't enabling him gunwise? I think that Lanza and Mercer have now shown that to be a very bad idea. I do wonder why Mercer spared his mother.

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not just single mothers; don't give guns to unemployed, problematic little shits is good advice all around

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 02, 2015 04:03 PM (GvNnD)

206 I wonder if anyone is keeping count of how many times Barry refers to himself?

How many times has he said, "Let me be clear."?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:04 PM (FsuaD)

207 Case in point; Australia was settled by failed men.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 04:05 PM (JmGFJ)

208 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type) or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.

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Send them to Uncle Harry's Special Reform Academy!!! I have uses for them!

Posted by: Harry Reid, The (alleged) Searchlight Strangler at October 02, 2015 04:05 PM (vd4oB)

209 See, ace, here's the thing: I think Milo's right, AND I think you're right. Milo is right about the sidelining of boys and the feminization of modern society; it leads to a lot of lonely, confused young men who have the potential to explode in dangerous and deadly ways.

But you're right, too, in that there are some people - male or female - who are simply incapable of making it in the world. They're too feeble minded or weak willed or slovenly, and in their worst incarnations they use violence to make themselves feel like equals to their (genuine) betters. That may well be the case with Bald Scrotum here (I refuse to use the murder's name).

But what you're both missing is the intersection of the two, which I think is exemplified by the veteran, Chris Mintz, who charged Bald Scrotum and took seven bullets in his attempt to stop the lunatic from killing anyone else. Mintz exemplified with that act the very best of what masculinity can achieve: heroism, bravery, selflessness, strength, audacity, confidence. He is the man that Milo wants today's lost generation of boys and men to become. And if boys and men WERE appreciated more, as Milo recommends, maybe there wouldn't have been just one Chris Mintz in that classroom. Maybe there would have been a dozen. Maybe there would have been enough to swarm Bald Scrotum before he could kill anyone. Maybe Bald Scrotum would have been so cowed by the knowledge that there were brave men (and women, b/c confidence breeds confidence) who would take him down and send him to prison in ignominy that he wouldn't have even hatched the plan in the first place.

Yes, there will always be losers and violent scum in society. But what we're doing in America today is providing an avenue to that underclass for young men who might otherwise have become leaders or their wingmen.

Good men, good women, good PEOPLE are the surest way to diminish the tarnish left on society by the weak and the greedy like Balding Scrotum. And to have a society of good people, you have to start by respecting what makes people unique and allowing them to embrace their strengths. That means embracing the positive aspects of masculinity (and femininity), not mislabeling them as "toxic."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at October 02, 2015 04:05 PM (4df7R)

210 It is really a different society. Internet porn is creating a reverse Lysistrata and women aren't noticing. And it's not just antisocial beta males either.

Sure, betas are afraid of women and never get the girl but alphas get the girl and are either accused of rape or are beaten down by the woman if he stays in a relationship.

Which he has every reason not to.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2015 04:00 PM (Xd2w5)

I sure do wish some Feminist could totes explain to me why Bernie Sanders' published rape fantasies are okie dokie with the sisterhood.

As to being a male in this society, it's harder than it's ever been. It's also easy to see why ISIS has such an easy time recruiting young males. They suddenly get to be a hero, get to do religious sanctioned violence, maybe get to rape some hostage woman. We've made it so easy, too easy.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:05 PM (kXoT0)

211 Moral Relativism

And the fact that 'raising a child' now means 'protecting reinforcing and nurturing every seed of neuroses, psychoses and deviancy present in the little bubble-wrapped special snowflakes skull cavity.'

Posted by: Mortimer at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (0dcbp)

212 They think they can meddle with basic human instincts and there will be no downside. It's not enough to feminize men. We have to deny that gender differences even exist. And we tell women that there is a problem with them, if they primarily want children, because what they should really want is a job. We tell women that there is no downside to divorce. We say that one person with kids can support themselves, although it's certainly not true in this economy. And society holds up gay men as something to be emulated.

Add to that the willful destruction of all the things that "glue" societies together, like church,, family, traditions, and it will unravel.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (5HBd1)

213 Any Red Lines in Syria in this speech? I always enjoy the Red Lines.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (oDCMR)

214 >>>>what is an administrative discharge?
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.A discharge for any variety of reasons. Usually as a result of something Medical is the biggest reason. Out of body fat standards is the next largest reason that I saw.

But I doubt he got an Admin discharge as he was in way less than six months. He probably got an Entry Level Separation (ELS) which is uncharacterized.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (iONHu)

215 185
And if the schlub is unfortunate enough to get married, he's lucky to get relegated to a shitty man cave while the wife takes over the rest of the house and erases his personality from "their" home.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (Ypc8j)

216 May have been said already, but I haven't yet read the comments. If you want to stop mass shootings, carry your own gun. I'll help any NoVA morons or 'ettes who want to learn firearms basics, and will even provide tools and and ammo.

Posted by: AnthonyB at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (73ECz)

217 Can we please find these people who are preventing Preezy from being clear? They've been doing it for 8 years now.

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (5vV+V)

218 ...you see that on guys who wash out of basic and are a bit "off"

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (zOTsN)
And you see a lot of people who are simply stupid. They may have decent verbal skills learned from family or television, but they cannot think, reason, adapt, understand much of anything. He "graduated" from what was essentially a special ed center. Political correctness prevents them from being called what they are. And people fill their heads with what their "possibilities" are. Why wasn't he sacking groceries or mowing yards or working as farm labor to use up his energy and get him out of the house instead of sitting on his ass being weird. Because we have cheap immigrant labor or a jobs dearth for normal people much less the marginal. Economically we no longer need people like this so what do we do with them? Inactivity and uselessness is not good for mental health of anyone.

Posted by: Lester at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (2UPXV)

219 one of my sons has Aspbergers and I would not let him have a gun or shoot. Too impulsive, lacks the judgment, and occassionaly lacks perspective

and he is a good kid, not a problem kid

but I wouldnt let him near a gun

and I would be OK if that were a restriction to gunownership

I think it would have stopped Laughner and Lanza and this guy, maybe more

come at me

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (zOTsN)

220 Filibuster in overdrive. The fewer the questions, the less chance of a hard one.

That's the only hard one that Barry doesn't like.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (48QDY)

221 Oh, I get it -- now Obama's saying he'll take Putins deal from 4 years ago where Assad abdicates (if you will).

Yeah, probably too late for that Obama.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:03 PM (AkOaV)

Obama, what a dolt.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (NaeCR)

222 135
113 SO who's the Sect. of Ed?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (NOIQH)

Some new guy.

From Brooklyn.

That's all I picked up.

Honestly, I don't even think the Department of Education should exist in the first place.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:52 PM (AkOaV)

Father's name is Sam or something.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (1DH1V)

223 This fuck Fredo is so fuckin delusional and such a fuckin liar, someone should do something about it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (BVZNi)

224 >>It is really a different society. Internet porn is creating a reverse Lysistrata and women aren't noticing. And it's not just antisocial beta males either.

Internet porn and angry, man-hating feminists.

Look at who upsets them - men who look at them too long or compliment them clumsily, basically any guy who hits on them unsuccessfully. "Ooh, he's rapey for staring at me and treating me like a sex object while I'm at the bar in my little tank top, micro-mini and 6" heels!!!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (NOIQH)

225 Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:02 PM (zOTsN)

I've known a several Drill Sergeants and had an old Platoon Leader that was later a Company Commander on Sand Hill. From what I've heard, that scenario is not that uncommon.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 04:08 PM (nL0sw)

226
They think they can meddle with basic human instincts and there will be no downside. It's not enough to feminize men. We have to deny that gender differences even exist. And we tell women that there is a problem with them, if they primarily want children, because what they should really want is a job. We tell women that there is no downside to divorce. We say that one person with kids can support themselves, although it's certainly not true in this economy. And society holds up gay men as something to be emulated.

Add to that the willful destruction of all the things that "glue" societies together, like church,, family, traditions, and it will unravel.

Say, that almost seems like it was the plan all along . . .

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:08 PM (5vV+V)

227 Any Red Lines in Syria in this speech? I always enjoy the Red Lines.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (oDCMR)

He just said, Assad must go. Maybe Barry is hoping he'll leave on his own.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 04:08 PM (493sH)

228 Uh-oh.

He don't wanna go here.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (48QDY)

229 Obama claiming Putin acted out of weakness in Syria.

Did he also say Putin invaded Ukraine "out of weakness"?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (AkOaV)

230 Thank you Barack for being the biggest douchebag fuckup in Presidential history. I thought I'd have to wait centuries to lose that title.

Posted by: Jimmah Cahter at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (0O2Lr)

231 Scotsman yup, should be an ELS

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (zOTsN)

232 And if boys and men WERE appreciated more, as Milo recommends, maybe there wouldn't have been just one Chris Mintz in that classroom. Maybe there would have been a dozen.

Yes. Criminals follow incentives.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (2lndx)

233 113 SO who's the Sect. of Ed?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 03:48 PM (NOIQH)

Some new guy.

From Brooklyn.

That's all I picked up.

Honestly, I don't even think the Department of Education should exist in the first place.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:52 PM (AkOaV)

Father's name is Sam or something.
Posted by: rebel flounder at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (1DH1V)

Whomever it is, he is being given a temp appt so that fuck fredo deos NOT have to bring it before Congress.

And this fuck fredo keeps pushing the bullshit that Putin's involvement id Syria is a sign that Putin is weak? And the bullshit MSM just sit there like the lumps of shit they are

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (BVZNi)

234 And the fact that 'raising a child' now means 'protecting reinforcing and nurturing every seed of neuroses, psychoses and deviancy present in the little bubble-wrapped special snowflakes skull cavity.'
Posted by: Mortimer at October 02, 2015 04:06 PM (0dcbp)

Including being celebrated on Facebook for giving your little snowflake their first hormone injections for transitioning.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (kXoT0)

235
Who is it that could possibly have an interest in western civilization falling apart?

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:10 PM (5vV+V)

236 Barry just said he has a 60 nation coalition and Putin doesn't. 60? He'd be lucky to get 6

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 04:10 PM (493sH)

237 Damn. I'm tempted to listen to the jackass. He's calling Putin weak?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:10 PM (FsuaD)

238 He's not far off though. Its related to his point about emasculated and attacked boys - the whole cultural treatment of young people is necessarily making them unstable and chaotic. Don't allow them to be boys. Don't allow them to express themselves naturally so they can be shaped and directed. Suppress their nature and force them into PC boxes. Meanwhile, don't let them compete, fail, face adversity, be wrong, stumble, or have any difficulties.

And you think boys will grow up healthy and sane in this? Remember the story of those college kids who went to the counselor because they saw a mouse??? This is not a sane generation being brought up. Small wonder we're seeing them crack.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:10 PM (39g3+)

239 quote It's deep-seeded in men. /unquote

deep-seated

Posted by: docweasel at October 02, 2015 04:10 PM (XxzcU)

240 The Pentagon said something about being prison bitches..that be top to down ...

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (mcm0N)

241 This is a 13 minute answer to a question and he just gave a follow-up to the same reporter.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (48QDY)

242 Now they move into an apartment, spend their days on the internet, and wallow in their failure looking for something to shoot up. like travis bickle
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest

Are you outside my window?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (JmGFJ)

243 Who is this 'Aice' guy?

Posted by: Chuck Yaegher at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (oVJmc)

244 A higher percentage of secularism now days means a corresponding lower percentage of people who believe in an ultimate and final judgement.

Losers of old still had an upbringing of an ultimate judge and so they ended things with a lonesome suicide.

Secularist losers today feel no such hesitation to take other out with them to show their anger.

Posted by: Doesky2 at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (Zpygp)

245 Damn. I'm tempted to listen to the jackass. He's calling Putin weak?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:10 PM (FsuaD)

Yup that is the party line. all the fashionable dems/libs are doing it. Didn't you get that memo?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (BVZNi)

246 And this fuck fredo keeps pushing the bullshit that Putin's involvement id Syria is a sign that Putin is weak? And the bullshit MSM just sit there like the lumps of shit they are
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2015 04:09 PM (BVZNi)

"Hitler invaded the Sudetenland out of weakness"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (AkOaV)

247 236
Barry just said he has a 60 nation coalition and Putin doesn't. 60? He'd be lucky to get 6

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 04:10 PM (493sH)

A 60 nation coalition, eh? Do any of these other nations realize they're in the coalition, or did Obammy just yank their cooperation out of his ass like usual?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (4df7R)

248 this guy, Laughner, Lanza

they were born this way. Culture didnt help, but they were born this way

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (zOTsN)

249 Well, not a law -- but it would behoove the media to not covered these stories like this. It just encourages others.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 03:26 PM (AkOaV)

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It's in the media's self interest to NOT try to discourage atrocities like this. Covering these stories as they do is big business for them. Easy work for lazy assholes, and politically useful, too.

Posted by: Stu-22 at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (vd4oB)

250 Did Sparky tell us why Assad must go? I've really never understood the why of it. Assad's a prick, but so was Saddam and Sparky about wet his pants when we zipped him. Obama, he talks all gay and his shits all fucked up.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (oDCMR)

251 God he's just an awful, dishonest failure. Just go away.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (/tuJf)

252 Ugh, he's just rambling. Stumbling over his words because he has no freakin idea what he's talking about.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (NOIQH)

253 224 "Ooh, he's rapey for staring at me and treating me like a sex object while I'm at the bar in my little tank top, micro-mini and 6" heels!!!!"

"After that, I'm going to get gangbanged, live journal about how empowering it is, and play the victim when someone calls me a slut." People complain about a lack of real men in society. I think there's an equal lack of real women. Society is melting down.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (Ypc8j)

254 I want to thankl Presdent obama for his leadership during that Shooting event in Canada thjis week. Once again this happened because Bush lied to our Presdent of Color and just found out about this problem created by Bush economic policy that is responsible for the weakest economy in US History. We need to give Presdent Obama another four years to fix all of Bush's mess up's and then when we do that we can helps all persons of color around the world. The world will love us and all wars will go away and also better rights for all Gays and Lesbians of all colors will be happy too !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (EIFYf)

255 Elliot Rodgers too

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (zOTsN)

256 192
Still haven't heard anyone in the media use the magic words: Hate Crime.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (ODxAs)

Because it's not. At least to the media. Prolly better classified as "Cleansing of undesirables"

Posted by: Drill_Thrawl at October 02, 2015 04:13 PM (JOG+K)

257 248 this guy, Laughner, Lanza

they were born this way. Culture didnt help, but they were born this way
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The Ancient Greeks would just expose handicapped infants. Any chance we can do this with Sparky?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:13 PM (oDCMR)

258
BTWJuggears Hitler's invasion of Poland was done out of weakness as well. (Europe's weakness)
SureHitler was left behind by history, but not before a decade of world war and millions upon millions dead. But go ahead and wave your hands Barack, that's the least destructive thing your capable of anyway.

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:13 PM (5vV+V)

259 250
Did Sparky tell us why Assad must go? I've really never understood the
why of it. Assad's a prick, but so was Saddam and Sparky about wet his
pants when we zipped him. Obama, he talks all gay and his shits all
fucked up.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (oDCMR)

He never really told us why Mummer Gadfly or Mubarak had to go, either, except that they were on the ephemeral "wrong side of history" or whatever.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at October 02, 2015 04:13 PM (4df7R)

260 Obama is now saying Assad is going to transition.

I wonder if he means like Bruce Jenner... or what?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Well, one of the facial feminization techniques is mandible reduction.

If Assad transitioned, he could skip that step.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (E5UB0)

261 A 60 nation coalition, eh? Do any of these other
nations realize they're in the coalition, or did Obammy just yank their
cooperation out of his ass like usual?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit Vaginassassin, aka Beth at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM (4df7R)

Maybe he's counting all 57 states?

Posted by: Bruce at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (8ikIW)

262 250 Did Sparky tell us why Assad must go? I've really never understood the why of it. Assad's a prick, but so was Saddam and Sparky about wet his pants when we zipped him. Obama, he talks all gay and his shits all fucked up.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:12 PM (oDCMR)

Umm.. Assads people protested, he shot them, Obama said Assad doesnt have the support of the majority...

I don't know. Bullshit.

Now he's hedging big time on Syria. Rambling for 20 minutes, saying its not his fault.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (AkOaV)

263 I can't listen. He makes my blood boil. Such an inept, fumbling, fuckwit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (FsuaD)

264 Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (zOTsN)

As you know, I have the same situation and I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (cgZPg)

265 We are failing the next generation of Men.

Mainly because us Men no longer have the institutions that enable us to be good examples for young Men.

Boy Scouts? Wimp scouts... no boxing clubs.. there are sports in school but if you are not a Jock, you are not welcome...

So if you do not have a Father who is a good Manly role model... you learn how to behave from TV... which is leftist, and Gay.

I grew up with a Manly Father... and REAL Boy Scouts... and watching John Wayne...

Todays generation mostly are in broken homes, raised by Mom, with NO outdoor activities, and watching Queer Eye or a Homosexual Sherlock Holmes...

And then folks wonder why they are screwed up.

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (qh617)

266 thanks blaster

so this shooter was a 26-year-old white male living at home with two married parents

statistically, this should mean he's a success

but he was discharged from basic training, had no luck with the ladies, and spent his time surfing the net, playing video games, admiring revolutionaries, buying camo clothes and guns, and feeling anti-Christian in particular

he sounds like a disaffected lefty loser leech type to me

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (SsYt1)

267 Kerry Says His Memories Of Vietnam Made Him Give Iran Nukes

Speaking to Stephen Colbert on The Late Show, the US secretary of state says his time served in Vietnam helped motivate him to seek a deal with Iran over their nuclear program. Vietnam was a war in which too many of my friends died, under circumstances that might have been averted had different choices been made by people in positions of responsibility, Kerry said

Weasel Zippers

7 Days in May

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2015 04:15 PM (BVZNi)

268
Yaegher shots for everyone!

Posted by: Yaegher Meister at October 02, 2015 04:15 PM (NaeCR)

269 he's telling the media what questions to ask people again (in regards to "WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY" about syria).

I love when he does that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:15 PM (AkOaV)

270 We had several in navy boot , most were quietly dissapeared but this one poor guy somehow lasted all the way . We used to count off first thing every morning , standing in front of our bunks . When it came time for this guy to sing out , there was this horrible pause , every fuckin' morning . His number was always the same but he just couldn't get it out .
I used to get pale waiting for the inevitable ringing silence .
Poor bastard prolly' ended up SECNAV under Clinton .

Posted by: awkward davies at October 02, 2015 04:15 PM (mP1RE)

271 As you know, Obama is stuttering now and as you also know, without a teleprompter, Obama is an oratorical dunce.

Netanyahu, on the other hand, can be a thousand times more eloquent, a thousand times more compelling, by not saying a word.

http://tinyurl.com/qako7zw

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at October 02, 2015 04:15 PM (BZAd3)

272 A partial list of our Low Information President's 60-nation coalition:

Damnation
Tarnation
Alienation
Detonation
Elimination
Urination

Posted by: Furious George at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (UlJ3l)

273 Look at who upsets them - men who look at them too long or compliment them clumsily, basically any guy who hits on them unsuccessfully. "Ooh, he's rapey for staring at me and treating me like a sex object while I'm at the bar in my little tank top, micro-mini and 6" heels!!!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:07 PM (NOIQH)

Exactly. As a reasonably attractive woman, I have had my share of unwanted male attention, but, I deflected it with what I hope was grace and tact. Only one or two guys failed to take those hints and still it didn't get truly ugly.

I am never one to blame a woman if she gets attacked, but, I see some really dumb behavior out there amongst young women out for a night on the town. If you are going to dress provocatively, dance like a stripper, and make out with your girlfriends to get attention, then do not be amazed when you get that attention, honeychile.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (kXoT0)

274 Jon Karl asking a gun question

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (AkOaV)

275 I enjoy reading Milo's musings, though I don't agree with a lot of what he advocates, lifestyle wise. But he has a sharp wit, and a sharp tongue.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (gyKtp)

276 So, he couldn't even handle Relaxin' at Jackson.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 03:51 PM

*snort*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (KrAjA)

277 Damn. I'm tempted to listen to the jackass. He's calling Putin weak?

I can't wait to hear/see? what Putiin's response will be? Let's get into a war with Russia. Good plan, Obama. :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (cgZPg)

278 OK.... so the Precedent of the US, is once again calling for the violent overthrow of the Government of a UN Member State... without a Security Council Resolution.

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 02, 2015 04:17 PM (qh617)

279 Well, news to me:

@AndrewStilesUSA
Over the last 10 days, Obama's top advisers on cyber-security, ISIS, and Russia have all resigned.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 04:17 PM (JmGFJ)

280
Tv is leftist and gay.
cut. jib. newsletter.

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:18 PM (5vV+V)

281 okay, so all obamas going to do about guns is "politicize" it.

Good.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:18 PM (AkOaV)

282 Culture didnt help, but they were born this way

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM

And the culture and economy used to give them ways to be productive and useful to their families and society. Now it doesn't. Or not enough anyway. People used to be tolerant and understand that as human beings we all have limitations but unique talents too.

Posted by: Lester at October 02, 2015 04:18 PM (2UPXV)

283 Jonathan Karl: Prezzy Wonderful, in your last 15 months in office are you going to finally and wonderfully rid the country of guns? Thank you. You're so wonderful!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 04:18 PM (493sH)

284 Just reading all of your comments as to what the JEF is saying is giving me a rage headache.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:19 PM (FsuaD)

285 Read in the Blind Gossip sites that an A list athlete is "transitioning" I dont effin believe it...

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 02, 2015 04:19 PM (iQIUe)

286 It's in the media's self interest to NOT try to discourage atrocities like this. Covering these stories as they do is big business for them. Easy work for lazy assholes, and politically useful, too.

It's going to be a hoot when some whack job comes to the inevitable conclusion that, if the media will make him famous for killing a lot of people, why not make it easier for the media by skipping the middleman and just slaughtering a bunch of them somewhere?

The second-order effects will be predictably grotesque, but it seems like everything is these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 02, 2015 04:19 PM (9krrF)

287 Turned it off...I cna't listen to that fuck anymore.. Or tomorrow when I am in Uniform and pass his ugly ass picture I might break out like I have Tourette's Syndrome and lose my commission

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2015 04:19 PM (BVZNi)

288 People complain about a lack of real men in society. I think there's an equal lack of real women.

Absolutely; its both ways. Men and women both have abandoned all traditional, past roles and concepts of gender and are cast adrift without comprehension of masculinity or femininity. Men don't know how to man. Women don't know how to woman. And we're all paying the price.

The left successfully tore down a thousand years of learned wisdom and tradition along with some flaws and sins... and gave us nothing to replace it with. Our culture has no skeleton. Its just a pile of quivering goo.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:19 PM (39g3+)

289 Yaegher shots for everyone!
Posted by: Yaegher Meister

Ok, made me laugh.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 04:19 PM (JmGFJ)

290 "so this shooter was a 26-year-old white male living at home with two married parents ..."

And getting a pistol in California, gun control west ...

Posted by: Kristophr at October 02, 2015 04:19 PM (6fIOn)

291 >> I think there's an equal lack of real women. Society is melting down.

Completely agree!!

While they're demonizing boys for being boys, they're "empowering" girls with feminist nonsense about having everything you want (perfect job, perfect husband, kids at any age) and no consequences for your decisions.

You can no longer voice any type of common sense advice such as "don't get fall-down drunk in public, surrounded by strangers" or "fertility changes as you age, so you might not want to wait to achieve all career goals before settling down and starting a family (if that's what you want)."

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:20 PM (NOIQH)

292 If you are going to dress provocatively, dance
like a stripper, and make out with your girlfriends to get attention,
then do not be amazed when you get that attention, honeychile.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (kXoT0)

Where is this place?

Posted by: Yaegher Meister at October 02, 2015 04:20 PM (NaeCR)

293 Does Obama not realize what he's advocating?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:20 PM (AkOaV)

294
I sure do wish some Feminist could totes explain
to me why Bernie Sanders' published rape fantasies are okie dokie with
the sisterhood.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:05 PM (kXoT0)

Because as a Socialist he is politically pure, and not a hater revanchist bigot like you you prejudiced traitor.

At least that is what I was told.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (3pRHP)

295 "come at me"

If I really really really want a gun, I can get one.

The problems here cannot be solved by making a particular tool go away. Maybe it could be diminished, but the evidence I've seen is far from conclusive.

The solution is a new culture, and will take generations.

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (SsYt1)

296 Neville Chamberlain Was Right Nick Baumann

--Slate

I just found this while trying to find a quote.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (mcm0N)

297 We are failing the next generation of Men.

Mainly because us Men no longer have the institutions that enable us to be good examples for young Men.

Boy Scouts? Wimp scouts... no boxing clubs.. there are sports in school but if you are not a Jock, you are not welcome...

So if you do not have a Father who is a good Manly role model... you learn how to behave from TV... which is leftist, and Gay.

I grew up with a Manly Father... and REAL Boy Scouts... and watching John Wayne...

Todays generation mostly are in broken homes, raised by Mom, with NO
outdoor activities, and watching Queer Eye or a Homosexual Sherlock
Holmes...

And then folks wonder why they are screwed up.

Posted by: BB Wolf at October 02, 2015 04:14 PM (qh617)
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I hear you loud and clear. I know some organizations that are attempting to address this very thing. Activities, outings and goal-oriented experiences that are geared exclusively to 20-30 something males, designed to provide strong bonds and healthy friendships. For example, some of them are interest-centered, i.e. hunting or brewing your own beer.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (dFi94)

298 He is the master of the straw man. Well he thinks he is anyway.

Anything he wants is logical, rational and backed by a team of unknown "experts". His opponents are just evil, stupid and completely in the hands of moneyed special interests.

Barack Obama = modern man

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (/tuJf)

299 @AndrewStilesUSA

Over the last 10 days, Obama's top advisers on cyber-security, ISIS, and Russia have all resigned.

Holy crap. The rats are fleeing from the ship.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (FsuaD)

300 And the culture and economy used to give them ways to be productive and useful to their families and society.

Exactly; people with problems and flaws can be directed and shaped by culture, society, tradition, rules, and leadership. But that doesn't happen any more. They're left adrift to be them, no matter how screwed up, and sometimes they snap and people die.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (39g3+)

301 If you are going to dress provocatively, dance
like a stripper, and make out with your girlfriends to get attention,
then do not be amazed when you get that attention, honeychile.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:16 PM (kXoT0)
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Where is this place?

Posted by: Yaegher Meister at October 02, 2015 04:20 PM (NaeCR)

I've mostly seen it in establishments where you are served with Red Bull.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 04:22 PM (nL0sw)

302 We had a guy like that at PI. He did the strangest thing in third phase, he reported that his DI hit him. Three weeks from graduating and he ended up recycling himself at PI for at least three platoons with every DI knowing why he just joined his new platoon. Kafka couldn't come up with a more hopeless existence.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:22 PM (oDCMR)

303 Chris Mintz? Never heard of him.

Posted by: SCOAMF and his Charlie Gibson puppet at October 02, 2015 04:22 PM (vd4oB)

304 If we had more gays in America their children would love each other and we would have world piece.

Posted by: Mary Comestien from F**kstainboro, VT at October 02, 2015 04:22 PM (0jNGT)

305 Obama, why do you think the NRA doesn't represent "the majority of people"?

I mean why do they say these things?

The NRA "represents" tens of millions of people, if not hundreds of millions

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:22 PM (AkOaV)

306 Where is this place?
Posted by: Yaegher Meister at October 02, 2015 04:20 PM (NaeCR)

You're asking for a friend, right?

This place is any college bar at any major university.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:23 PM (kXoT0)

307 "Here's your common sense gun law: If you cannot name your father, NO GUNZ"

That's racist - 75% of the black population would automatically be excluded by that rule.

Posted by: Jim Crowe at October 02, 2015 04:23 PM (Kpl3J)

308 You know what is really good for boys and men and helps develop character , good habits and social skills?

Work.

How 'bout that jobs report there, Barry? Was the Bureau of Labor Statistics acting out of weakness, too?

Posted by: Mortimer at October 02, 2015 04:24 PM (0dcbp)

309 Yes, let's pass more gun laws so the gang bangers in the ghetto won't have guns.

He just said this.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 04:24 PM (/tuJf)

310 Obama, why do you think the NRA doesn't represent "the majority of people"?

Its funny how the majority is a tyranny to the left, except when it isn't. Based on the side of the issue politically, alone.

Global warming - majority good, 97%!!!!
Gun rights - majority bad, oppressive!!!!

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (39g3+)

311 Please tell me the idiot isn't still stammering and blathering.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (FsuaD)

312 When you get to basic (Ft Jackson, for example), it takes a few days to inprocess (medical, legal, uniform issue, etc). You're then given a mini-PT test before assignment to your basic training unit.

An admin washout means he didn't even get to his basic training unit.

He washed out at the reception station.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (zyIlW)

313 280
Tv is leftist and gay.
cut. jib. newsletter.

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And full of trannies. Don't forget the trannies.

Posted by: Stu-22 at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (vd4oB)

314 I agree with a lot of the problems that have been identified, but I don't know though of any society that can really help people like this, unless it's simply to institutionalize them. If the feminists were less femi-nazi and crazy would it really stop mass shootings? I doubt it.

I do think though 99% of this is the fault of the parents. They're simply too lazy or wrapped up in their own world to see a powder keg like this that's about to go off. Just a few pictures of this kid and everybody else had it figure out.

Posted by: Coolio at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (ugaUI)

315 @AndrewStilesUSA

Over the last 10 days, Obama's top advisers on cyber-security, ISIS, and Russia have all resigned.

Holy crap. The rats are fleeing from the ship.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:21 PM (FsuaD)

Just how many times can one prepare a detailed briefing for the One only to have Him toss it aside and say, "I don't need this. I am smarter than each and everyone of you." before one says, FackIt, the private sector beckons.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (kXoT0)

316 Jane Do'h: They should have been keel hauled, and not allowed to just quit.

The great China hack consisted of hiring a Chinese consultant living in China, and giving him root access so he could maintain that government employee database.

Posted by: Kristophr at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (6fIOn)

317 Old and busted: BOOoooooOOOOOooOOOSSHHH!!

New hotness: 'Acted out of weakness'

Posted by: Mortimer at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (0dcbp)

318 "75% of the black population would automatically be excluded by that rule"

I thought black lives mattered.

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (SsYt1)

319 123 WTF is Arne Duncan? I must plead ignorance here.
Posted by: Chavez the Hugo at October 02, 2015 03:50 PM (ucDmr)

Seconded, fwiw. Guy likes Duncan donuts or something?

Posted by: Hawkins1701 at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (TZYqp)

320 Good men, good women, good PEOPLE are the surest way to diminish the tarnish left on society by the weak and the greedy like Balding Scrotum. And to have a society of good people, you have to start by respecting what makes people unique and allowing them to embrace their strengths. That means embracing the positive aspects of masculinity (and femininity), not mislabeling them as "toxic."
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit & Vaginassassin, aka Beth at October 02, 2015 04:05 PM (4df7R)

Indeed. I think focusing on men alone is not sufficient. There is moral decay in society throughout. More decency, and honor, and self reliance, and kindness for and from everyone.

At the same time, I think we should not get so dismayed by all the bad we see...because we miss so much of the good. The good often goes unreported. The evil that men do lives after them, the good is interred with their bones. Etc.

Posted by: Lea at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (lIU4e)

321 This shooter target Christians. This shooter comes from Oregon and attended college there. Oregon and colleges are very liberal.

Sorry to disturb your fascinating analysis, but Roseburg is basically the opposite of Portland. I wouldn't go latching on to this targeting Christians thing yet either. It will probably end up being bullshit just like it turned out to be bullshit with that girl in Columbine.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (1RNgT)

322 Good faith and credit strawman. Ugh.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (48QDY)

323 282 Culture didnt help, but they were born this way

Posted by: ThunderB at October 02, 2015 04:11 PM

And the culture and economy used to give them ways to be productive and useful to their families and society. Now it doesn't. Or not enough anyway. People used to be tolerant and understand that as human beings we all have limitations but unique talents too.

---

Society never really gave the Adam Lanzas and Jared Loughners of the world a "way to be useful"; schizophrenia has always been a burden. But society did put them away in places where they couldn't hurt others and where they (ideally) didn't hurt themselves

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (GvNnD)

324

little winger went through Ft. Jackson, or as he lovingly calls it, "That place from hell".

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (dFi94)

325 I've failed. Sigh.

Posted by: That Modern Man at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (Dwehj)

326 How 'bout that jobs report there, Barry? Was the Bureau of Labor Statistics acting out of weakness, too?
Posted by: Mortimer

Here's your jobs report: we're doing awesome!

Posted by: Warren Buffett and Jeff Immelt singing "We're In The Money" at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (awspb)

327 Why were this shooter's parents so out to lunch?

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (SsYt1)

328 >>Over the last 10 days, Obama's top advisers on cyber-security, ISIS, and Russia have all resigned.

Aaaand why don't we know the details of this?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (NOIQH)

329 Where is this place?

****

The Vienna Meet up with Kerry and Iran.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 04:27 PM (mcm0N)

330 He doesn't believe anything he says. They focused grouped all of this horse crap and phrasing and this is what the liberals want to hear him say. He doesn't care about any of this stuff. He's been phoning it in since 2008. He is and always has been an empty suit. Someone else is running the show.

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:27 PM (5vV+V)

331 This place is any college bar at any major university.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:23 PM (kXoT0)

College has gotten much more interesting. When I was there it was only the art chicks making out with each other.
Or am I reading too much into this?

Posted by: Yaegher Meister at October 02, 2015 04:27 PM (NaeCR)

332 grammie,

Went through Ft Jackson twice, in 1987 and 2001.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:27 PM (zyIlW)

333
He looks halfblack.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 02, 2015 04:27 PM (J5lvw)

334 >>>They always will be a problem.

Society's ways of dealing with men and their needs has changed.

We set the bar very high to be considered a "winner" and teach our children poorly. What it means to be respected.

We tell them the man digging ditches for the plummer is a loser.

We tell them the man that hasn't had 3 chicks by the end of high school is a loser.

We tell them the man who doesn't have a lot of friends is a loser.

Yes you should aspire to the best God gifted you with. Squandering your talent makes you a loser. Not working hard makes you a loser. Being cruel makes you a loser.

Some man who's giving it all they've got support themselves, their family if they have one, make this world a better place as far as they can tell, that's not a loser, that's a man who deserves respect. We've lost that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXg8E0kzF1c

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at October 02, 2015 04:27 PM (0q2P7)

335 309 Yes, let's pass more gun laws so the gang bangers in the ghetto won't have guns.

He just said this.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 04:24 PM (/tuJf)

Yep. I finally had to turn him off.

He mentioned Chicago then said "so we need more gun laws."

I don't... I mean, what do you say to that?

Want to have a frank conversation, Obama? Our violence rates are on the high side in this country for one reason and one reason alone. No amount of gun laws are going to fix inner city gang violence, generational poverty, broken homes, horrible schools, and corrupt democrat political machines.

STOP FUCKING BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (AkOaV)

336 I used to tell them " No, I didn't say you were a whore. I said you were wearing a whore's uniform

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (KW1mm)

337
"Raising the debt ceiling secures the full faith and credit of the United States"

-Bronco the Economist

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (OiFtZ)

338
Hamburg Germany is seizing commercial property to house immigrants. Its like they don't read their own history, let alone world history.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (ODxAs)

339 and yes, hell it was...especially in the summer.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (zyIlW)

340 321 This shooter target Christians. This shooter comes from Oregon and attended college there. Oregon and colleges are very liberal.

Sorry to disturb your fascinating analysis, but Roseburg is basically the opposite of Portland. I wouldn't go latching on to this targeting Christians thing yet either. It will probably end up being bullshit just like it turned out to be bullshit with that girl in Columbine.

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If the stories are true, he still shot those who didn't profess Christian faith.

Posted by: Jenny Hates Her Phone at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (GvNnD)

341 This Milo character is a quarter right but three quarters off. Sure, the media are a bunch of fruits who push their fruity ways on us. And the feminists are a bunch of rotten fruit pushing their smelly rancid way on us. And the left, in general, are a bunch of America-hating fruits who can never forgive Dad for their own damaged and weak personalities that have disembodied , illusory guilt constantly filling their tiny minds ...

But these people are not the real problem. They always existed. They've always been around. But, back when we had the few people of integrity and courage who were needed, these America-hating, fruity retards weren't given the time of day. Nothing they said was taken seriously, because they aren't serious people. Men just brushed them aside and ignored them, as is the only good way to treat these fools.

But, nowadays, we have no more of those few good men who are willing to stand up for the obvious truth, who are willing to say that an 84 IQ America-hating Precedent is rending the Constitution and needs to be impeached (and then criminally prosecuted). No of those few good men who are willing to block the America-hating Indonesian's plans in Congress. Those few good men have disappeared, so the fruits are left to run wild and do as much damage as they always dreamed of doing.

That said, none of this has anything to do with the evil shooter in Oregon. There is no connection.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (zc3Db)

342 Ace sez something very deep:

"They (violent loser men) always will be a problem."

This, actually, is the crucial nexus of the difference between a leftist and a non-leftist:

A non-leftist like Ace (correctly) realizes that human beings are flawed and unequal, and that whatever the setting or social configuration, some men will be comparably "losers," and that furthermore men are inherently competitive and have a capacity for violence, so that ALWAYS, always always always, there will be problems in society and frustrated bad men who "act out" either individually (like a loner criminal) or in groups/gangs (like followers of necrotic ideologies). All we can do is do our best to minimize and cope with the damage when it erupts.

A leftist, however, is defined by the (false) belief that mankind is "perfectable" and that with enough training and brainwashing and indoctrination and social conditioning we can tame the savage beast in the heart of man and thereby create a nonviolent utopia.

And so, to achieve this goal, the leftist attempts to seize with every means available the levers of control to FORCE everyone onto their road toward utopia.

What they don't realize is that they, the leftists themselves, in the attempt to force everyone into utopia, are "acting out" violently and being competitive.

Their own action self-disprove their theories.

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (jBuUi)

343 The GoFundMe at the upper right in the Headlines just lapped past $200,000.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (EzgxV)

344
Why would anyone listen to a homosexual about how boys/men should act?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (J5lvw)

345 WTF is Arne Duncan? I must plead ignorance here.

The guy that engineered Chicago's school system, one of the worst in the nation. Former Obama education secretary, thinks 2nd graders needed to be taught all about homosexual sex, among other things.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (39g3+)

346 Over the last 10 days, Obama's top advisers on cyber-security, ISIS, and Russia have all resigned.

Rats, meet sinking barge.

Posted by: That Modern Man at October 02, 2015 04:29 PM (Dwehj)

347 "We've lost that."

We've lost control of the institutions that INSTILL that. We need to take them back.

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:29 PM (SsYt1)

348 Why were this shooter's parents so out to lunch?

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:26 PM (SsYt1)

I'm gonna go with, "They are liberals."

Posted by: Country Singer at October 02, 2015 04:29 PM (nL0sw)

349

The devaluation of men as protectors and guardians is leading to a misdirection of natural aggression. Men no longer have a perceptible role in society to protect their own. Atomization leads to further breakdown of these social ties.

Yup, I see it in this and a dozen other ways. When we tear down old fences, we need to ask why they were there to begin with.

Posted by: imp at October 02, 2015 04:29 PM (XIXZz)

350 The NRA doesn't represent the majority of Americans.

Now, let's get to an important issue: completely changing all public bathrooms to facilitate all of the trannies out there.

Posted by: Queen Barry I at October 02, 2015 04:29 PM (awspb)

351 The problem with humanity is that it has been too successful. I am not advocating for mankind to suddenly behave like Sparta and kill the weak and malformed. In the Middle Ages, a kid like Mercer would've been kept busy trying to help keep the family fed and sheltered. Now we give them a video game and forget about them until they come roaring out of the basement for their moment of glory.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:29 PM (kXoT0)

352 6 He left out the part that most of these 'boys' were raised by single mom's. There's your sign.

I don't think that's relevant, i was raised by a single mom because my dad left us, yet i still played football and baseball and was a member of the scouts, not to mention my mom raised me while going back to college, oh, and my mom is about as far left as a person can get, but she didn't force her politics on me and i grew up to be a small govt righty, has more to do with how well the adult is at parenting than whether or not the parent is male or female.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 02, 2015 04:30 PM (VviqM)

353
If the stories are true, he still shot those who didn't profess Christian faith.

If the stories are true, he shot Christians in the head and the rest in the legs.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 02, 2015 04:30 PM (0dcbp)

354 Posted by: Yaegher Meister at October 02, 2015 04:20 PM (NaeCR)

I've mostly seen it in establishments where you are served with Red Bull.

The real problem with Kids These Days is that no one has taught them how to drink properly.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 04:30 PM (JtwS4)

355 Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (AkOaV)

Did I see you say in a previous thread that Paratestes isn't your actual family name?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (EzgxV)

356 Great.

Now we have to defend !Hebbe!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (JmGFJ)

357 So what was obama lying about today?

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (hUdMz)

358 >>>Speaking to Stephen Colbert on The Late Show, the US secretary of state says his time served in Vietnam helped motivate him to seek a deal with Iran over their nuclear program. Vietnam was a war in which too many of my friends died, under circumstances that might have been averted had different choices been made by people in positions of responsibility, Kerry said

Weasel Zippers

7 Days in May
Posted by: Nevergiveup

to be fair I think Kerry served like two weeks in Vietnam. and it was in February.

Posted by: x at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (57fhp)

359 #309

How the heck is he going to do that?

Fly a huuuge magnet over south Chicago?

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (mcm0N)

360 Is the JEF so fucking stupid he isn't aware of the fact that Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation???

Jeebus. My latest rage meter just blew up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (FsuaD)

361 I wouldn't read too much into job bailing at the White House. At this point in every administration people start trying to cash in their contacts and favors for a cushy eight-figure job.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:32 PM (39g3+)

362 Assad is about to transition...from a guy who was going to lose a war to a guy who is going to win.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at October 02, 2015 04:32 PM (nFdGS)

363 Their own action self-disprove their theories.

Posted by: zombie at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (jBuUi)

That's perfectly appropriate, since self-hate is the driving force behind most Western Leftism.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 02, 2015 04:32 PM (zc3Db)

364 Yes, let's pass more gun laws so the gang bangers in the ghetto won't have guns.

He just said this.

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Seriiously? Those words?

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 04:32 PM (3ZtZW)

365 Did Barry write these questions and hand them out to his fanbois to read back to him?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2015 04:32 PM (493sH)

366 Lets not forget suicide rates of people who should be starting their careers and families. I have zero pity for some piece of shit who murders 10 people. I do have pity for someone who followed the rules laid out in front of him by his allegedly wiser "elders," (not knowing that these folks are about as smart as Obama), did what was expected of him, spent years getting a supposedly essential education, only to realize it was all bullshit and now they simply don't know how to move forward. And when confronted with another year of living with one's parents (and the shame it entails) or ending it, the latter option becomes more attractive.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 04:32 PM (Ypc8j)

367
Anyone care to wager that this turkey was on psychotropic drugs for a significant portion of his life? like 50%+? that, in addition to being raised by a single mother - how much did his father contribute to his life, not child support paid to the mother? - and getting it drummed into his head by the feminist mantra that because he was able to pee standing up made him a monster, did all of that contribute to his self-loathing rage?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 02, 2015 04:32 PM (VvOZ5)

368 344
Why would anyone listen to a homosexual about how boys/men should act?
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (J5lvw)

Well, OTOH, who would know more about men and how then act then a homosexual, really?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:33 PM (AkOaV)

369 Yeagher = Jaeger ( Jagger ) = hunter in ze German

from The Right Stuff to The Rolling Stones; everything is connected, man

Posted by: Billy Bhuddist at October 02, 2015 04:33 PM (8CdUx)

370 and yes, hell it was...especially in the summer.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (zyIlW)
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That's when he was there. I remember going down there for his graduation, I think it was the end of July. They had everyone out on the field in full dress uniform and i think it was something like 102 degrees. The soldiers were dropping like flies. BOOM down one would go then BOOM down another. Whoever was speaking just kept droning on and on. By the end of the ceremony there were more guys laying on the field then standing up.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 02, 2015 04:33 PM (dFi94)

371 I think there's a more straightforward explanation available.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:33 PM (EzgxV)

372 The wisdom of Barry Obama.

There is no silver bullet to solving gun violence.

If a Republican had said that he would be caricatured for weeks in the press.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 04:33 PM (/tuJf)

373 If the stories are true

The problem is that the stories reported in the first couple of days usually aren't true.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (1RNgT)

374
"Our culture doesn't respect good men". You can't find one on TV on the Disney channel even. They areall hapless idiots who can't do anything right.
The women on tv are all wildly inappropriate selfish, shallow harridans, so completely neurotic they should be in treatment, not character's on a kid's show.
Family life in general is depicted as mean, an empty contest of wills, duplicity and pointless drama.

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (5vV+V)

375 I can't listen to potus any more, makes me sickening

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (GwIKd)

376 Who has more members, NRA or the trans population of the USA?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (KW1mm)

377 I can't listen to potus any more, makes me sickening

Oh, I don't think You're so bad...

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (hUdMz)

378 Did I see you say in a previous thread that Paratestes isn't your actual family name?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (EzgxV)

Ha, no.

Read my nic aloud.
Its a joke.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (AkOaV)

379 He left out the part that most of these 'boys' were raised by single mom's.

Its ideal to have both parents, but I think the primary problem is what is being done to raise kids, not how many of what sort of parent. Having two parents who raise their kid to be a special snowflake whose gender is indeterminate and must never have their tender self esteem triggered while being taught all about transgendered lesbian elves is going to turn out a horrible mess much worse than one parent who works hard to instill absolute objective morality, truth, and virtue.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (39g3+)

380 College has gotten much more interesting. When I was there it was only the art chicks making out with each other.
Or am I reading too much into this?
Posted by: Yaegher Meister at October 02, 2015 04:27 PM (NaeCR)

Nope, you are not. I went out with a friend and her granddaughter for her 21st birthday and saw girls humping one another and making while their boyfriends and other guys egged them on...

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (kXoT0)

381 Just how many times can one prepare a detailed
briefing for the One only to have Him toss it aside and say, "I don't
need this. I am smarter than each and everyone of you." before one
says, FackIt, the private sector beckons.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:25 PM (kXoT0)

You forgot the probable hissy fits, screaming tantrums and threats for "failure to provide me with the information I need" when the inevitable upgefeck starts to smell.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (3pRHP)

382 grammie,

That's where being in the back has its advantages.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (zyIlW)

383
Jeebus. My latest rage meter just blew up.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (FsuaD)

Someone put this person on the watch list. Rage? check. Blew up? check. Probably a mad bomber who...wait, what's that ticking noise?

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (VvOZ5)

384 >>Seriiously? Those words?

Not those exact words but he was talking about we need more gun laws to stop the gun violence and used inner city Chicago as an example of where they would help.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (/tuJf)

385 to be fair I think Kerry served like two weeks in Vietnam. and it was in February.

Posted by: x at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (57fhp)

Kerry served a full tour, during which time he managed to shoot himself in the ass twice.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (nFdGS)

386 If the stories are true, he still shot those who didn't profess Christian faith.

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Well it is getting news coverage in those terms out here in NY now. He shot others, but in the leg or whatever. He aimed to kill Christians.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (3ZtZW)

387 Well, OTOH, who would know more about men and how then act then a homosexual, really?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:33 PM (AkOaV)

A normal guy.

What do I win?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (zc3Db)

388 The societal crap being pushed by the fems and SJWs and libs is not new. There are strong echoes of it from decades back in "The Abolition of Man" by CS Lewis. It's worth the time to read it.

Posted by: JTB at October 02, 2015 04:36 PM (FvdPb)

389 So are they still saying He's a Conservative Republican?

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 04:36 PM (hUdMz)

390 Did Barry write these questions and hand them out to his fanbois to read back to him?

At this point, far worse, I don't think he needs to.

who would know more about men and how then act then a homosexual, really?

That's like arguing a pedophile is the ideal grade school teacher, cause they love kids so much.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:36 PM (39g3+)

391 to be fair I think Kerry served like two weeks in Vietnam. and it was in February.

Posted by: x at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (57fhp)

Al Gore

Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2015 04:36 PM (3pRHP)

392 A normal guy.

What do I win?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 02, 2015 04:35 PM (zc3Db)

I'll buy you a aoshq T-shirt from HQ store.

...oh wait...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:36 PM (AkOaV)

393 Barak has to be a shitty boss

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (GwIKd)

394 Kerry served a full tour, during which time he managed to shoot himself in the ass twice.

He did also shoot a VC dead.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, Team Lefty and Scamp at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (JtwS4)

395
Would you make out with a guy for money? I see all these straight actors who do it and I dont think I can. Yet, the money must be good. I'd have to think of a chick the entire time and insist on only one take which is not how these sexy scenes are shot.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (iQIUe)

396 378 Did I see you say in a previous thread that Paratestes isn't your actual family name?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (EzgxV)

Ha, no.

Read my nic aloud.
Its a joke.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (AkOaV)

That's too bad, as the Paratestes family name has a great and glorious history. A couple of hundred years ago, they were famous for their huge formalware dance parties -- so much so that the common name in English for such parties was an Anglicization of the family name -- "Fancy Balls".

Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (EzgxV)

397 to be fair I think Kerry served like two weeks in Vietnam. and it was in February.
Posted by: x at October 02, 2015 04:31 PM (57fhp)

Then once he had his three paper cuts, he was gone.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (kXoT0)

398

We got this.

Posted by: Gods of the Copybook Headings at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (0dcbp)

399 352
6 He left out the part that most of these 'boys' were raised by single mom's. There's your sign.

I don't think that's relevant, i was raised by a single mom because my dad left us, yet i still played football and baseball and was a member of the scouts, not to mention my mom raised me while going back to college, oh, and my mom is about as far left as a person can get, but she didn't force her politics on me and i grew up to be a small govt righty, has more to do with how well the adult is at parenting than whether or not the parent is male or female.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 02, 2015 04:30 PM (VviqM)

Hug your mom, for us. She did well.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (1DH1V)

400 That's like arguing a pedophile is the ideal grade school teacher, cause they love kids so much.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Cut. Jib. Newsletter.

Posted by: Harry Reid at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (awspb)

401 Read my nic aloud.
Its a joke.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes,

Do you have a brother nicknamed Tiny, per chance?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Slow Typer at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (RwwCT)

402 It's really too bad this freak wasn't accepted at Oberlin. Think of the good he could have done there.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (oDCMR)

403 I am testing from Mac and have gotten error message 500 since May of 2014 if I use punctuation. I am only one that seems to have problem.

Sorry, testing 1.2.3.

Posted by: Carol at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (sj3Ax)

404 #390

Oh snap!

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (mcm0N)

405 Who has more members, NRA or the trans population of the USA?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 02, 2015 04:34 PM (KW1mm)

The numbers seem to be on the NRA side, but you'd be amazed at the overlap on a venn diagram. Just saying.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (NaeCR)

406 If any of you morons can spare a prayer, I'm stuck at my brothers place for the next couple days, listening to CNN and Barney the Shit Midas nonstop on the tv.

God grant me strength....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (7a3cm)

407 Well your first problem is using an Apple product.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (39g3+)

408 "Parrot-Ests"? I don't get it.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (3ZtZW)

409 Thoughtful post, Boss. On the subject of losers, there is a part in Mississippi Burning where Gene Hackman's character recounts a story about his father killing the mule of his black neighbor because he didn't have one. Because "If you ain't better than a n**ger, son, who are you better than?"

I think these murderous losers have that kind of thing going on.

Posted by: Grump928(c) notes at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (evdj2)

410 That's too bad, as the Paratestes family name has a great and glorious history. A couple of hundred years ago, they were famous for their huge formalware dance parties -- so much so that the common name in English for such parties was an Anglicization of the family name -- "Fancy Balls".
Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (EzgxV)

Sounds like a name to be proud of.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (AkOaV)

411 Oh, goody. Psychology.

Or in this case, the prog/com War on Men.

I can't really add too much to what you wrote, Ace, except to note that business also provides an outlet for the Desires of Guys to Do Something to Prove Themselves.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (LUgeY)

412 "A state controlled media"?

Does that include the willing?

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (48QDY)

413 That's like arguing a pedophile is the ideal grade school teacher, cause they love kids so much.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:36 PM (39g3+)

You do know that's a real thing now. Admitted pedophiles saying they should be allowed to be teachers, etc. because pedophilia is a natural thing.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (kXoT0)

414 Ha! Obama claims the only reason Putin is getting good press is because he has a state controlled media.

The man is so self-absorbed that even the mildest form of criticism is illegitimate to him.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

415 Read my nic aloud.
Its a joke.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes,

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT SAYS PUBIC HAIR AND BALLS AS IN TESTICLES WITH HAIR.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBURGERER at October 02, 2015 04:40 PM (JmGFJ)

416 406,

This is where a decent pair of headphones or earbuds would come into play.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:40 PM (zyIlW)

417 406
If any of you morons can spare a prayer, I'm stuck at my brothers place
for the next couple days, listening to CNN and Barney the Shit Midas
nonstop on the tv.

God grant me strength....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (7a3cm)

Jeebus. Stay strong. I'll say a prayer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:40 PM (FsuaD)

418 I am testing from Mac and have gotten error message 500 since May of 2014 if I use punctuation. I am only one that seems to have problem.

Sorry, testing 1.2.3.

Posted by: Carol at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (sj3Ax)

youre not the only one

Posted by: ee cummings at October 02, 2015 04:40 PM (zc3Db)

419 God grant me strength....

My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 04:40 PM (LUgeY)

420
Nope, you are not. I went out with a friend and her granddaughter for her 21st birthday and saw girls humping one another and making while their boyfriends and other guys egged them on...

I guess I should be glad that I go to a dude's bar to drink/watch sports/hang out. Don't get too many women, but maybe that isn't the hardship I'd like to think it is.

I work at a large public institute of higher learning, and I've seen ball park 4 or 5 chickies with such short shorts on that I could clearly see their butt cheeks.

This is in my daily routine when I need to step out of my office - somewhat infrequently, so I can only imagine the true number. And this was when they were going to class, not out to the frat house or the college watering hole.

Took everything I had to keep my eyes in my sockets, and my tongue from hanging down half way to the floor.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 02, 2015 04:40 PM (VvOZ5)

421 It's the 3 name thing. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, Barack Hussein Obama. All sociopaths.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2015 03:27 PM (/tuJf)

Yep, my middle name is Ray. Ray or Raymond is a paternal family name.

The only way that I could have done worse is if my parents had named me Wayne Ray Hobbit.

Or maybe Lee Harvey Wilkes Wayne Ray Mohammed Hobbit.

Posted by: Michael the Hobbit at October 02, 2015 04:40 PM (dPpmC)

422 Do you have a brother nicknamed Tiny, per chance?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Slow Typer at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (RwwCT)

Nah, but I do have a brother named Yuge.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:41 PM (AkOaV)

423 without a Security Council Resolution.

Barky "Resolution? What've pixels got to do with it?"
or "Resolute - Yeah I put my feet on that"

Posted by: DaveA at October 02, 2015 04:41 PM (DL2i+)

424 Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (7a3cm)

Change the channel to something else and flip the batteries in the remote.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:41 PM (48QDY)

425 and yes, hell it was...especially in the summer.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:28 PM (zyIlW)
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That's when he was there. I remember going down there for his graduation, I think it was the end of July. They had everyone out on the field in full dress uniform and i think it was something like 102 degrees. The soldiers were dropping like flies. BOOM down one would go then BOOM down another. Whoever was speaking just kept droning on and on. By the end of the ceremony there were more guys laying on the field then standing up.
Posted by: grammie winger

Don't lock your knees

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2015 04:41 PM (ztOda)

426 414
Ha! Obama claims the only reason Putin is getting good press is because he has a state controlled media.

And the MFM nod their heads like good little fanbois and girls.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:41 PM (FsuaD)

427 Relax Jane. Here, let me make you a drink.

Neckrub ?

Posted by: The Lurking Spider at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (9miVc)

428 "Resolute

Resolution desk obama said that.... get it right...

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (hUdMz)

429 422 Do you have a brother nicknamed Tiny, per chance?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Slow Typer at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (RwwCT)

Nah, but I do have a brother named Yuge.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:41 PM (AkOaV)

Is he a Trump fan?

Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (EzgxV)

430 Jean,

Yep.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (zyIlW)

431 The Kenyan sounds hysterical in this presser. Anyone else see it that way? Wow.

Posted by: pam at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (cF0hS)

432
Damn, footnote to the butt cheek comment: that 4 or 5 was for this semester, which is about 6 weeks old.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (VvOZ5)

433 Wheezing

Between the Obama whine about state tv and the return of Ben to the threads.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (mcm0N)

434 Heya cooth.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (zyIlW)

435 Arne Duncan is the secretary of education. Also a bumbling idiot.

Ph.D. in sociology, so he's a professional idiot.
Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2015 04:01 PM (Xd2w5)

Duncan is stepping down in December.

Posted by: Carol at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (sj3Ax)

436 Or maybe Lee Harvey Wilkes Wayne Ray Mohammed Hobbit.
================================

Ya that would be bad. Hard to fit on a Return Address label too.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 02, 2015 04:43 PM (dFi94)

437 Yeah, sadly, the pervertsare lining up for their turn at "respectability". They see that transsexuals are getting awards and figure its their chance to be creature of the year. (not a typo) (yes I denounce myself)

Posted by: simplemind at October 02, 2015 04:43 PM (5vV+V)

438 Barak has to be a shitty boss
Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (GwIKd)

Yeah, he is, but, the real boss ValJar is way worse.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:43 PM (kXoT0)

439 If any of you morons can spare a prayer, I'm stuck at my brothers place for the next couple days, listening to CNN and Barney the Shit Midas nonstop on the tv.

God grant me strength....

Or at least some headphones.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:44 PM (39g3+)

440 The Kenyan sounds hysterical in this presser. Anyone else see it that way?

=======

Are we reaching Barry's Breakdown?

We all kind of expected him to have a public meltdown - remember? He's got Putin treating him like a bitch, everyone in the world thinks he's shit, and now he's gonna take it out on US.

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 04:44 PM (3ZtZW)

441 431
The Kenyan sounds hysterical in this presser. Anyone else see it that way? Wow.

Posted by: pam at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (cF0hS)

Uh oh. When malignant narcissists lose their shit it's never good. This won't end well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:44 PM (FsuaD)

442 Wow, still yammering on.
Blah blah blah says Obama.

Is he coming off his high yet?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:44 PM (NOIQH)

443 Duncan is stepping down in December.

Posted by: Carol at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (sj3Ax)

He'll probably trip.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedpair at October 02, 2015 04:44 PM (zc3Db)

444 Is he a Trump fan?
Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (EzgxV)

I bet he drives a late model fiat knock-off made in Kragujevac

Posted by: Kindltot at October 02, 2015 04:45 PM (3pRHP)

445 Don't lock your knees.

***

What Bill says to his interns?

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 04:45 PM (mcm0N)

446 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society.

One question worth exploring - do we have the same percentage of Failed Men, or do we have more or less than before?

If the percentage is different, what are the contributing factors to *that*?

First step to fixing a problem ... do we have one, and what control do we have over it?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 02, 2015 04:45 PM (0NdlF)

447 Yeah, he is, but, the real boss ValJar is way worse.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes

Yeah, SHE's the real boss.

Posted by: George Soros at October 02, 2015 04:45 PM (awspb)

448 I expect the answer to my question to be: Yes, we have more, because Feminism.

So how much do we like Feminism, and how much do we like dealing with Failed Men?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 02, 2015 04:45 PM (0NdlF)

449
406 If any of you morons can spare a prayer, I'm stuck at my brothers place for the next couple days, listening to CNN and Barney the Shit Midas nonstop on the tv.

God grant me strength....

Deer lord, man, there's college football on tonight and tomorrow, lsufootball.net has a tv schedule (Central time zone) and the channels doing the games.

The NFL picks up on Sunday, and don't forget Monday night.

Fight. Fight for your right. Your right to watch football.

Or drink heavily.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 02, 2015 04:45 PM (VvOZ5)

450 How long has this presser from hell been going on?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:46 PM (FsuaD)

451 Hmmm....in the last 20 minutes, the GoFundMe has racked up $16K....

Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:46 PM (EzgxV)

452 So is Baraaaack still blubbering?

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 04:46 PM (hUdMz)

453 The Internet is the social crack cocaine of the 21st Century.

Posted by: Grump928(c) notes at October 02, 2015 04:46 PM (evdj2)

454 God grant me strength....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (7a3cm)

Earplugs, sunglasses, and the liquor of your choice.

Dear Lord, lend Tex some strength, although anyone named Tex does not really need it.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:46 PM (kXoT0)

455
445 Don't lock your knees.

***

What Bill says to his interns?

No, that would be "don't lock your jaws". Yer welcome.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at October 02, 2015 04:47 PM (VvOZ5)

456 Been talking to B'Gal about this place again. I read Larry Correia's link to her and she nearly pissed herself laughing. She axed, "Where did you find that?"

So naturally, I went into great detail about this place. I think it piqued her interest enough that she might wade into the comments here soon. I recommended a nic for her to use so's youse guys would know who she was.

You've been warned.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 04:47 PM (LUgeY)

457 I went out with a friend and her granddaughter for her 21st birthday and saw girls humping one another and making while their boyfriends and other guys egged them on...

May you live in interesting times.

Admitted pedophiles saying they should be allowed to be teachers, etc. because pedophilia is a natural thing.

Yeah, the ball is rolling to normalize these monsters. There's almost no evil of the past that isn't being made not just legal and allowed, but preferred and protected. Its not enough to stop persecuting homosexuals with the law, we have to be happy about it and cheer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:47 PM (39g3+)

458 434 Heya cooth.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at October 02, 2015 04:42 PM (zyIlW)

Howdy, howdy -- did some gardening and overheated, so I'm taking a bit of a break.

Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:47 PM (EzgxV)

459 Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:43 PM (kXoT0)

Heh.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:48 PM (48QDY)

460 Alas, the presstitutes will give fame to these losers and they know it. Look at the analysis he gets here. The pressholes, however, have the anti-2nd fixation (and anti-Christian anti-TP anti-GOP when possible) that will make these stories continue in same fashion.

Posted by: eureka! at October 02, 2015 04:48 PM (g1MTt)

461 I think Obama is finally done with his presser.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle at October 02, 2015 04:49 PM (AkOaV)

462 If that asshole spent half the time spinnin' webs as he does bitchin' about gun control, he might get somewhere.

*winks at Jane*

Posted by: The Lurking Spider at October 02, 2015 04:49 PM (9miVc)

463 Posted by: cthulhu at October 02, 2015 04:47 PM (EzgxV)

Heyo! You're on early.

Enjoy the rain?

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 02, 2015 04:49 PM (0NdlF)

464 461 I think Obama is finally done with his presser.

Thank the fucking Lord! It's Friday which means he won't be back presidenting until Tuesday around noon.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 04:50 PM (Ypc8j)

465 Late to this, but very good piece, Ace. One of your best.

..and now, I shall conquer a 12 pack.

....and crush all those empties before me.

Because, Friday.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the Rain at October 02, 2015 04:50 PM (7rAXc)

466 Kerry not only managed to shoot a VC dead, he shot a WOUNDED and UNARMED VC dead.

oh the courage of that guy

Posted by: Grad School Fool at October 02, 2015 04:50 PM (A9KzJ)

467 I think Obama is finally done with his presser.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes, the artist formally known as mynewhandle

I don't think TFG is ever really done. He just takes pauses between bullshit marathons.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 02, 2015 04:50 PM (awspb)

468 End times...they're coming.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 02, 2015 04:50 PM (iQIUe)

469 You've been warned
............

Did you go into how Buzzion is dead?

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 04:50 PM (GwIKd)

470 >>One question worth exploring - do we have the same percentage of Failed Men, or do we have more or less than before?
If the percentage is different, what are the contributing factors to *that*?

Well, there are A LOT of black men in prison.

There are more women in college than men.

There are A LOT of men who have left the work force (to the point that they don't even register on unemployed stats).

Just a few indicators that more men are failing than in decades past.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:51 PM (NOIQH)

471 Chuck Yeager once ate scrambled eggs is the chair right to the back of mine at the Williamsburg Inn. I didn't turn around and therefore kept my eyesight.

True story.

Posted by: Sarahw at October 02, 2015 04:51 PM (3fTXW)

472 John Kerry was that officer that the guys in MASH kept running into and fought against. The careerist who cared nothing about his men, the guy using his position for political climbing, who'd fake injuries and lie.

And he somehow became a hero to the left.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:51 PM (39g3+)

473 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT SAYS PUBIC HAIR AND BALLS AS IN TESTICLES WITH HAIR.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLESBURGERER a

Did you see me keep running left long after the Ravens figured it out?
It was a real howler.

Posted by: Mike Vick's puppy joke at October 02, 2015 04:51 PM (DL2i+)

474 There's almost no evil of the past that isn't being made not just legal and allowed, but preferred and protected.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:47 PM (39g3+)

There's the key word, PROTECTED. In this week's Law & Order SVU, we had a 15 year old Black Yute sent to prison for seven years for the hate crime manslaughter of a transitioning male. The main story line was PROTECTED Class of People and Hate Crime.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:52 PM (kXoT0)

475 Well, I guess Choom Boy will be golfing all weekend.

Did he even mention the AF plane that crashed in Afghanistan?

What a worthless POS he is. But I repeat myself.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2015 04:52 PM (FsuaD)

476 7 Days In May

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2015 04:53 PM (BVZNi)

477 What a worthless POS he is. But I repeat myself.

The mere sight of Him makes Me furious.... If I had to hear His voice the rage- stroke would finally do Me in...

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 04:53 PM (hUdMz)

478 Did you go into how Buzzion is dead?

Although I spoke at some length, there are a few things she'll just have to discover for herself.

Believe me, it's not easy to gracefully describe dick jokes and the various other chicanery we talk about here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 04:53 PM (LUgeY)

479 Recent tweet by Samantha Power, on official account

We call on #Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo & civilians & to focus on ISIL

Oh yeah. That'll show em. That hashtag is especially powerful.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:53 PM (39g3+)

480 When is he coming out of the closet?

Posted by: torabora at October 02, 2015 04:54 PM (BD3/j)

481 So once all of the Middle East including Israel are speaking Russian, will Bobo's "work" finally be done?

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:54 PM (kXoT0)

482 GOOD NIGHT ALL

Posted by: Bigby's Grasp of the Obvious at October 02, 2015 04:54 PM (3ZtZW)

483 the rage for gun control sounds like bush's argument for going into Iraq

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:55 PM (6ibql)

484 If I was president, no administration official may use Twitter. Using it makes one look like an imbecile. I can't imagine Kissinger tweeting.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 04:55 PM (Ypc8j)

485 >>We call on #Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo & civilians & to focus on ISIL

Jeez, these people are embarrassing!

Twitter demands? For realz?!?!?!?!??!?!

Russians are probably laughing so hard they're pissing their pants.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 04:55 PM (NOIQH)

486 Recent tweet by Samantha Power, on official account

We call on #Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo & civilians & to focus on ISIL
Posted by: Christopher Taylor

Hey Adolf, #dontbombusbro

Posted by: @wschurchill at October 02, 2015 04:55 PM (awspb)

487 *winks at Jane*
Posted by: The Lurking Spider at October 02, 2015 04:49 PM

I told ya, guy...you're breaking cover too early.

Posted by: The Face-Sized Spider at October 02, 2015 04:55 PM (KrAjA)

488 471 Chuck Yeager once ate scrambled eggs is the chair right to the back of mine at the Williamsburg Inn. I didn't turn around and therefore kept my eyesight.

True story.
Posted by: Sarahw at October 02, 2015 04:51 PM (3fTXW)

I would have so many aircraft questions that I would have instantly feared embarrassment and never said shit.

Samey same.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the Rain at October 02, 2015 04:56 PM (7rAXc)

489 This outsourcing of Syria to #Russia is not going as planned aparenty.

Who could have seen that coming?

??

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 04:56 PM (GwIKd)

490 Believe me, it's not easy to gracefully describe dick jokes and the various other chicanery we talk about here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 04:53 PM (LUgeY)

"What's fapping?" - Carol

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 02, 2015 04:56 PM (0NdlF)

491 the rage for gun control sounds like bush's argument for going into Iraq

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:55 PM (6ibql)

That's just silly.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedpair at October 02, 2015 04:56 PM (zc3Db)

492 The chief hector of the United States was on heavy rotation on the swedish morning news.

I kept thinking that he was deflecting from an intelligence/ law enforcement failure, he was so worked up.

Not sure I understand why it's against the law to use any of that domestic terror money he mentioned to have a couple guys keep,tabs on 4 chan threads.

That low tech and Zero intrusion. Now I am wondering if
maybe there had been some law enforcement contact, after all...and it was blown off.

Posted by: Sarahw at October 02, 2015 04:57 PM (3fTXW)

493 Chuck Yeager once ate scrambled eggs in the chair right to the back of mine at the Williamsburg Inn. I didn't turn around and therefore kept my eyesight.

I always try to approach vets and tell them thank you, with a handshake, if I can. And their wives, if present, because they served, too by waiting at home and fighting in the home front.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:57 PM (39g3+)

494 "What's fapping?" - Carol
Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 02, 2015 04:56 PM (0NdlF)

Why do these guys have a creepy elbows fetish? -- Carol

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 04:58 PM (kXoT0)

495 481 So once all of the Middle East including Israel are speaking Russian, will Bobo's "work" finally be done?"

I think a pretty large portion of Israel already speaks Russian.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 04:58 PM (Ypc8j)

496 Recent tweet by Samantha Power, on official account

We call on #Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo civilians to focus on ISIL

Oh yeah. That'll show em. That hashtag is especially powerful.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:53 PM

Tweeting?!

You're kidding, right?

You're not, are you?

Fuck TFG in particular.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2015 04:58 PM (KrAjA)

497 We call on #Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo & civilians & to focus on ISIL

Oh yeah. That'll show em. That hashtag is especially powerful.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:53 PM (39g3+)

Doesn't she have like a red phone or something?

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:58 PM (48QDY)

498 483 the rage for gun control sounds like bush's argument for going into Iraq
Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 04:55 PM (6ibql)

OK. ...... I don't get it......

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the Rain at October 02, 2015 04:58 PM (7rAXc)

499
We call on #Russia to immediately cease attacks on Syrian oppo civilians to focus on ISIL

Russia calls for #MoreWodka!

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 02, 2015 04:59 PM (oVJmc)

500 I kept thinking that he was deflecting from an intelligence/ law enforcement failure, he was so worked up.

Could be these shootings keep not being quite right for the narrative. The closest was the guy in South Carolina, but the church immediately forgave the guy and prayed for him, and it spoiled the entire effect.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:59 PM (39g3+)

501 Who is Kate Upton? - Carol

Though I hate Carol is banned.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:59 PM (48QDY)

502 Who has more members, NRA or the trans population of the USA?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

---

Don't worry, the MSM and I are on it.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 02, 2015 05:00 PM (E5UB0)

503 Off lurking sock. I ain't feeling it today either.

So, anybody pack up the guns they don't have, in anticipation of Barry's pending sweeping reforms ?

No shit ? Me neither.

Posted by: Irony at October 02, 2015 05:00 PM (9miVc)

504 Be very careful googling any word or phrase in AoS comments that you have never heard of.

!!!

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (GwIKd)

505 Chuck Yeager once ate scrambled eggs is the chair right to the back of mine at the Williamsburg Inn. I didn't turn around and therefore kept my eyesight.

True story.

Not to brag (OK, yeah, I'm bragging) but I worked for his second cousin at MSFC in Huntsville. He was a great fellow and had done just about every behind-the-scenes job there was to do there.

Story time: I needed some special screws to assemble a job I was making. I turned the shop upside down for about 30 minutes looking for some. I finally gave up and went to ax him if he knew where any were. He said, "How many do you need?" I replied "Six."

He reached into his pocket and pulled out six of them. He literally had NASA in his pocket.

Good times.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (LUgeY)

506 "who the hell is Brian Denehey?"
-Carol

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (39g3+)

507 403 I am testing from Mac and have gotten error message 500 since May of 2014 if I use punctuation. I am only one that seems to have problem.

Sorry, testing 1.2.3.
Posted by: Carol at October 02, 2015 04:38 PM (sj3Ax)

I get the same when I try to paste text from somewhere else. Once I remove all the leading spaces, it works.

YMMV.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the Rain at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (7rAXc)

508 Who is Kate Upton? - Carol

Though I hate Carol is banned.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 04:59 PM

I really don't understand those words in that order.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (KrAjA)

509 Speaking of trannies, if this guy had been forcibly neutered, I wonder if this would have happened.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (E5UB0)

510 So Obama says Putin is acting out of weakness by going into Syria?WTF is this ass hole saying..... Time to put Him in that padded room because He is delusional...

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (hUdMz)

511 no more lefty chicks in foreign policy

not asking a lot

Posted by: Feh at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (sA02N)

512 Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (GwIKd)

Rule 34?

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 05:02 PM (48QDY)

513 504
Be very careful googling any word or phrase in AoS comments that you have never heard of.

!!!

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (GwIKd)

Except "blumpkin." Totally safe.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 02, 2015 05:02 PM (1DH1V)

514 I really don't understand those words in that order.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (KrAjA)

There is a very sweet lady named Carol who can't post because of her IP address. The effort to "unban" her is both relentless and fruitless.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 05:03 PM (kXoT0)

515 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (39g3+)

Mebbe you need to check the lead on the top of the right sidebar.

Posted by: Golfman at October 02, 2015 05:03 PM (48QDY)

516 Chuck Yeager once made Chuck Norris cry. Just because he could.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 02, 2015 05:03 PM (oVJmc)

517 Carol? Never heard of her.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 02, 2015 05:04 PM (KrAjA)

518 >>Be very careful googling any word or phrase in AoS comments that you have never heard of.

Beware of links to zombie's San Francisco event pictorials. NSFW x1000!!!

You can never un-see the Folsom St. Fair photos...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 05:04 PM (NOIQH)

519 510
So Obama says Putin is acting out of weakness by going into Syria?WTF is this ass hole saying..... Time to put Him in that padded room because He is delusional...

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (hUdMz)

Our weakness.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 02, 2015 05:04 PM (1DH1V)

520 Ladies and Gentlemen, President SaysShit has left the building:

@markknoller 12m
Pres Obama exits State Dining Room after 1 hr 11 min statement and Q&A. Six reporters called on for questions.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 05:04 PM (JmGFJ)

521 Exercising right now but a great column ace....

It's bits like this that make this place hard to leave during news fasts.

Back to the weights. Putin style....not Obama style....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 02, 2015 05:05 PM (AC0lD)

522 @markknoller 12m
Pres Obama exits State Dining Room after 1 hr 11 min statement and Q&A. Six reporters called on for questions.

6 hand picked reportesr with questions given to them by Ferret face ValJar...

Posted by: donna at October 02, 2015 05:06 PM (hUdMz)

523 Lecturing about Putin acting out of weakness or being on the wrong side of history doesn't make him stop, Barry. This isn't Poly Sci 101. I don't believe even the media with all its diminishing might will be able to protect Obama's legacy once he's out of office.

Posted by: Naes at October 02, 2015 05:06 PM (Ypc8j)

524 There is a very sweet lady named Carol who can't
post because of her IP address. The effort to "unban" her is both
relentless and fruitless.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 05:03 PM

I got it...I was just busting on the wording a little. It's the end of the day. My funneh...it's gone. Well look at that, it's about martini o'clock...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2015 05:06 PM (KrAjA)

525 @markknoller 12m
Pres Obama exits State Dining Room after 1 hr 11 min statement and Q&A. Six reporters called on for questions.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 02, 2015 05:04 PM (JmGFJ)

I have said it before and I say it again, how would you like to be the poor luckless bastard who has to titrate Barry's meds before a press conference--enough uppers so he appears bright and engaging and enough downers so he doesn't start strutting around the stage singing show tunes and telling Mooch jokes.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 05:06 PM (kXoT0)

526 Be very careful googling any word or phrase in AoS comments that you have never heard of.

Clicking links, however, is particularly safe.

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2015 05:06 PM (ztOda)

527 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society.

-
Make them speaker of the house?

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 02, 2015 05:07 PM (XUKZU)

528 nood

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 05:07 PM (LUgeY)

529 >>So Obama says Putin is acting out of weakness by going into Syria?

This tool thinks he can Jedi-mindtrick Putin.
Just....so pathetic.
I bet Putin just entertains himself thinking of all the diff ways he could slip Omaba polonium if he wanted to.

Meanwhile, Obama thinks he can keep Putin in check w/an icy stare at a UN luncheon and finger-waging tweets by his ambassador to the UN.

This would be funny if America's weakness didn't make the world a far less safe place.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2015 05:07 PM (NOIQH)

530 Remember barky works out with chrome dumbells

Posted by: Yo! at October 02, 2015 05:08 PM (GwIKd)

531 I really don't understand those words in that order.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (KrAjA)
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There is a very sweet lady named Carol who can't post because of her IP address. The effort to "unban" her is both relentless and fruitless.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes at October 02, 2015 05:03 PM (kXoT0)

This is why you don't talk to buzzion, who is dead.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 02, 2015 05:08 PM (0NdlF)

532 So Obama says Putin is acting out of weakness

Part of his ridiculous psychological make-up. Everyone else, EVERYONE, is weaker than he, the weakest in the room.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Staring at the Lake in the Rain at October 02, 2015 05:08 PM (7rAXc)

533 Awfully glad Barry got that shit off his chest. Now I'm rethinking my entire view on gun ownership.

For example ... I've always been content with .308. But it really couldn't hurt to get .270 and .30-06 as well, could it ? Diversity, and all that shit.

Posted by: Irony at October 02, 2015 05:08 PM (9miVc)

534 "What's fapping?"

The same thing as Choking the Chicken, or Bopping the one Eyed Pope, or Pre-Game Muscle Massaging, or Priming the Custard Pump, or Loading the Baby Batter Gun, or Practicing the Kung-Fu Grip, or High Five'ing Big Daddy.

Posted by: Chris Mercer at October 02, 2015 05:09 PM (SJi0a)

535 So basically our foreign policy in regards to Putin has been reduced to trolling him on Twitter, and calling him weak.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube river guide at October 02, 2015 05:09 PM (mcm0N)

536 Posted by: rebel flounder at October 02, 2015 04:37 PM (1DH1V)

Thanks, will do

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 02, 2015 05:09 PM (VviqM)

537 I don't know what to do about the Failed Men of society. They're always a
problem, whether they're petty criminals (usually of the crueler type)
or wife-beaters, child-abandoners, or even child molesters.
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The answer is Christianity and Christian virtues.

One does not have to be the warlord, the CEO, or the rock star to live a life of value.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2015 05:09 PM (X7E8f)

538 Russia's response to hashtag diplomacy will probably be to hack all Twitter accounts and charge their credit cards for 20min of video chat with Russian whores.

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2015 05:10 PM (ztOda)

539 Milo needs to watch this clip from Charlie Brooker's Newswipe show (aired 2009).

A forensic psychiatrist, Dr. Park Dietz, says that when the news turns shooters like this into famous anti-heroes, we get more mass shootings.

The correct strategy: never show a picture of the killer, never mention his name, play up the heroism of the people who stopped him. Let's pass a law requiring all the news media to refer to mass-murderers only as "some loser": "Some loser just shot a bunch of people."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4

Posted by: mr_jack at October 02, 2015 05:10 PM (M59SC)

540 So Obama says Putin is acting out of weakness by going into Syria?

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Also, when he gave me a wedgie it shows just how weak he is...right Reggie?

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 02, 2015 05:10 PM (X7E8f)

541 I'm going to see if I can make a clickable link.

Here's that Newswipe clip

Posted by: mr_jack at October 02, 2015 05:12 PM (M59SC)

542 I would seed the media with stories about how this kid used to have sex with animals despite clinical erectile dysfunction, had a porn collection of his mother, and flunked out of basic because he wet his bed.

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2015 05:14 PM (ztOda)

543 Hey! cthulhu walks by day!

Good to "see" you.

Posted by: JohnnyBoy at October 02, 2015 05:18 PM (hk5Mp)

544 The correct strategy: never show a picture of the killer, never mention his name, play up the heroism of the people who stopped him. Let's pass a law requiring all the news media to refer to mass-murderers only as "some loser": "Some loser just shot a bunch of people."

Pop quiz: When they tried doing exactly that yesterday, what did we do here at the HQ?

Myself included. I'm willing to call myself out on that.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 02, 2015 05:21 PM (9krrF)

545 This guy and the Sandy Hook shooter seem to have similar backgrounds: 20-something mentally/emotionally/developmentally challenged young men from broken homes who lived with and were enabled by their co-dependent mothers. I think both these guys needed serious help and their mothers were both unable to help them yet unwilling to get them the help they needed if that help might require pursuing institutionalization of some kind.

Posted by: not the mama at October 02, 2015 05:22 PM (JPYxJ)

546 I'd say single motherhood is the biggest problem. Young men need positive male role models. It doesn't matter if you're dumb or short or ugly or physically weak. Each of these young men had some kind of talent which they could have developed and used to satisfy the competitive masculine trait.

Without a mature male voice to teach the values necessary to develop that talent (patience, perseverance, adaptation) you get young men lost in the electronic swamp and drug use. Listless, hateful, resentful and violent, like Johnny Ringo (Michael Biehn) of Tombstone. Radical feminism further demeans your existence until you reach the point where living itself is just a meaningless, painful chore. Then one day you break.

There are many positive things a mother can do. Focusing male development is not one of them.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue Five at October 02, 2015 05:30 PM (xudgf)

547 It's Chuck YEAGER. WW II fighter ace and test pilot, and first man to fly supersonic (and live to tell about it).

At the risk of someone already having covered this, I have to jump in here. SOMETHING is going on here, and no, I don't think it's SSRIs or anything like that. I'm older than most of you, and one thing I can tell you is that back in the day, this sort of thing just DID NOT HAPPEN. Not like this. Yeah, there was that guy (name escapes me now) who shot up the UT Austin campus back in the '60s, but he had a malignant brain tumor making things more interesting for him. A nontrivial difference. Insane, sociopaths, something not the norm.

And the thing is, guns (yeah, I'm looking at you, Obama, you commie cocksucker) were every bit as ubiquitous back then as they are today, if not more so. Hell, I got my first rifle at the age of 13, and so did most of my peers. But there were NO school shootings like what we see nowadays. None of this walking up and hosing a bunch of unarmed people just to make a name for themselves, or whatever the fuck their motivation supposedly was.

As I said, SOMETHING, in the past 40-50 years has changed. I suspect part of it is indeed the absence of fathers in the home. Children, male and female, DO need a father's influence in the home. And yes, I mean a POSITIVE influence, as well as a mother's.

But I also suspect, and yes I admit I have no hard evidence, other than the "coincidence" of this, that abortion has played a role in this. Think about it. The last few generations of kids has grown up realizing that life is, after all, not that precious anymore. Their mothers could have just as easily, if not more so, had them roto-rootered out of their wombs as have them. Indeed, how many of them would have had brothers or sisters that were instead aborted because they were "inconvenient".

And yes, there is the whole "e-vil white male culture", the very same culture that, oh by the way, built Western Civilization and gave us all these things like roads, medicines, airplanes, spaceships, freedom, et cetera, that the media and education is hellbent on denigrating, along with anyone who displays such traits. The irony here is that it was solely us e-vil white males, warts and all, that built it, not the Blacks, Asians (of whatever flavor), Hispanics or whatever "preferred" PoC/ethnic group you care to name, in this country. And no, that is not racism, that is reality. History. Deal with it.

Anyway, whatever that SOMETHING is that has changed, is why crap like this keeps happening, and why this nation is going down the goddam tubes...

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at October 02, 2015 05:30 PM (AYY6Y)

548 Story time: I needed some special screws to assemble a job I was making. I turned the shop upside down for about 30 minutes looking for some. I finally gave up and went to ax him if he knew where any were. He said, "How many do you need?" I replied "Six."

He reached into his pocket and pulled out six of them. He literally had NASA in his pocket.

Good times.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2015 05:01 PM (LUgeY)

Awesome.

Posted by: Sarahw at October 02, 2015 05:31 PM (3fTXW)

549 Another thing that undermines what Milo is saying is that there are plenty of "Failed Men" who don't go shoot up a public school or a college or whatever.

Posted by: deepelemblues at October 02, 2015 05:55 PM (VP4/S)

550 "What's fapping?"

It is awesome, that's what it is.

Posted by: wooga at October 02, 2015 05:58 PM (KVq/V)

551 There are two things that are in common with these big events like school shootings: 1. All the perps have poor father figures. 2. Obama has been the president during this time.

Posted by: denver todd at October 02, 2015 05:58 PM (pQZ8Q)

552 Ace! If you're referring to tge first man to break the speed of sound, it's Chuck Yeager, not Yaehger. Sheesh.

Posted by: Tantumblogo at October 02, 2015 06:04 PM (sUwfN)

553 Bingo Ace! But you failed to tie in another one of your favorite subjects that explains this a little more -- that is, the way kids have been raised as "special snowflakes," that they are stars ("Baby, you're a firework! Right Katy Perry.).

When it turns out that they are not stars, this is the reaction that you get from some -- to go out in a blaze of "glory." They'll show everyone -- they really are are "star." Katy was right! It's completely explainable that this is their reaction.

I also believe that many of these losers are also influenced by violent video games as mental training grounds for unstable minds -- but I'm sure that opinion will be rather unpopular here.

Posted by: RBecker at October 02, 2015 06:28 PM (sG/GU)

554 We are raising a generation of spineless, wimpy men. Donate to the go fund me page for Chris Mintz. I just did, and I NEVER donate to causes. Now, please excuse me while I go clean my new, used .45. And drink. But mostly clean the .45. It feels good to carry a real gun again, after so many years of Obutthead induced poverty.

Posted by: jasonj at October 02, 2015 06:29 PM (Uvbw9)

555 Kate McMillan at the Canadian blog Small Dead Animals had a header there for a long time that went "If Women Ran the World the Caves Would Have Nice Curtains".

Posted by: JHW at October 02, 2015 06:34 PM (w+zdY)

556 There has been no statisticallysignificant uptick in gun violence or mass shootings on either the long term (multi-generational) or short term (multi-decade) in the US. Quite the opposite, as violence of all sorts has cratered dramatically since the founding of the Republic. It's a pretty scrote-free form of victim culture to blame a category of crime that women never commit on women. Isn't this the kind of willful misdirection we don't take from Ta Nehisi Coates ?
Ace has the pathology exactly right: these are self-made losers.

Milo's writing is box-ticking clapper humor for the universe where John Stewart wears a goatee.

Posted by: Lukas at October 02, 2015 06:48 PM (pMm+a)

557 He was a nut. His momma is a nut. Daddy wasn't around. Probably left when he figured out momma was nutty.

You wanna stop this sort of stuff? Don't allow nuts to own guns. Period. Full stop. And don't allow anyone who LIVES with the nuts to own guns. No guns for nuts. Simple.

Posted by: JoeC at October 02, 2015 08:21 PM (DQDAK)

558 493 Chuck Yeager once ate scrambled eggs in the chair right to the back of mine at the Williamsburg Inn. I didn't turn around and therefore kept my eyesight.

I always try to approach vets and tell them thank you, with a handshake, if I can. And their wives, if present, because they served, too by waiting at home and fighting in the home front.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 02, 2015 04:57 PM (39g3+)

I sat behind him and his 20something girlfriend at an air show. His wife was still alive, but she'd had cancer for a long time. As far as I heard he took good care of her as long as she lived, but this little thing in her cutoffs and high heels was just a sight.

One gal in our group took on the mission of talking to her and finding out if she was his girlfriend or granddaughter. She said Chuck liked to see her in her bikini.

He's a great hero, though, and there's no denying that.

Posted by: stace at October 02, 2015 09:51 PM (CoX6k)

559 545 This guy and the Sandy Hook shooter seem to have similar backgrounds: 20-something mentally/emotionally/developmentally challenged young men from broken homes who lived with and were enabled by their co-dependent mothers. I think both these guys needed serious help and their mothers were both unable to help them yet unwilling to get them the help they needed if that help might require pursuing institutionalization of some kind.
Posted by: not the mama at October 02, 2015 05:22 PM (JPYxJ)

Yes, true, but now it's harder to have people committed. We might need to revisit that. As a taxpayer, I'm more than willing to help pay for institutions to care for severely challenged people whose families can't.

Posted by: stace at October 02, 2015 10:00 PM (CoX6k)

560 Huh... you said all the things I usually say...

Criminality, gangs, that sort of thing is because young men in various communities aren't given other options for being warriors.

Mass killings like this are flamboyant suicides meant to show the world that they are powerful and deadly men.

As for failing basic... my understanding is that if you fail for physical issues you get a "medical" which was not what was reported here. If you're just out of shape they "recycle" you until you get in shape. So if you get sent home it's because you had a mental break down or threatened to kill yourself.

And I think that Milo is right that men need men places to do men sorts of things with other men. When they don't get that they write articles about 27 ways to be a modern man and everyone makes fun of them.

Posted by: Synova at October 03, 2015 12:48 AM (Ek0Xs)

561 I don't think giving proper context to the warrior impulse is the only aspect of manhood that is being neglected by society. For example, in non-Marxist Jewish life, the Bar Mitzvah initiates young men, at 13, into a group of men with community responsibilities. Not all of these are warrior-type responsibilities, but they are still male responsibilities. The older men help orient the teens toward service, giving some balance to the self-preoccupation typical at that age. When the only male-oriented organizations are criminal gangs, I think society loses something.

Dennis Prager said years ago that one of the main purposes of civil society is to civilize young men. He urged older adults to befriend lonely young men when possible. I don't think this always works, especially when there are mental issues. For example, an association with some young men with bipolar disorder can be problematic. But in other cases, it could make a difference.

I have seen some marginal young men develop a sense of purpose through associations with churches, boy scouts or clubs. But institutions like this cannot always counteract the moral relativism that often leads to "men without chests" today. Social media seems particularly ill-suited for developing "men with chests".

http://www.cslewisinstitute.org/Men_without_Chests

Posted by: KT at October 03, 2015 02:42 AM (qahv/)

562 Who is Chuck Yaegher and how pathetic does one have to be to NOT get through basic training?

Ace keeps misspelling Yeager. I'm surprised Chuck, who's 92 now, hassn't stopped by to issue a Chuck Norris-style corrective.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 03, 2015 11:01 AM (LUlyE)

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