Mass Shooting at Community College in Oregon, At Least 15 Dead, 20 Injured
Shooter Down

The shooter is still active.

It occurred at Umpqua Community College, in a town called Roseburg, Oregon.

A local TV station's livestream coverage is here

Police are now confirming 15 dead. They are currently saying they don't know if the shooter is active, or how many injured there are, but previous claims have been that it's an active shooter situation, and that at least 20 were injured (in addition to the at least 15 dead).


Shooter Down. The live coverage just mentioned that the shooter was "down," and now comes this tweet:


The reporters are more emphatic that the shooter is indeed down. They say that chatter over emergency radio is reporting "Code 4," which means the shooter is no longer a threat.

Posted by: Ace at 02:45 PM




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1 Shit... Here We go again... How awful...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:45 PM (hUdMz)

2 1

Posted by: mallfly at October 01, 2015 02:45 PM (qSIlh)

3 How can they have an accurate body count if the shooter is active?

Posted by: pashmr at October 01, 2015 02:46 PM (3aNC4)

4 oh well... any idea who or what the shooter is?

Posted by: mallfly at October 01, 2015 02:46 PM (qSIlh)

5 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:46 PM (kff5f)

6 I'm horrified by the event, and I'm disgusted by the inevitable posturing of the gun-control ghouls that will follow.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 02:47 PM (2Ojst)

7 Let me make two predictions:

1. The college will turn out to be a Gun Free Zone.
2. The shooter will have a history of mental illness and psychotropic medication.

Posted by: V the K at October 01, 2015 02:47 PM (O7MnT)

8 has the MSM already started blaming the NRA?

Posted by: mallfly at October 01, 2015 02:47 PM (qSIlh)

9

Local news report I saw said that the shooter was down. In the early hours, it's hard to get solid information, I know.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 02:47 PM (dFi94)

10 Left begins dancing on the graves of the dead in 3...2...1...

Was the campus a "gun-free zone"?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:47 PM (FsuaD)

11 ISIS?

Posted by: eman at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (mR7Es)

12
1. The college will turn out to be a Gun Free Zone.
2. The shooter will have a history of mental illness and psychotropic medication

I just hope they take the sucker out...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (hUdMz)

13 I'm horrified by the event, and I'm disgusted by the inevitable posturing of the gun-control ghouls that will follow.

Aye. Pregusted, as it were. Blooddancers gotta dance.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (evdj2)

14
Dear Lord. Prayers for the victims and families.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (YtRdY)

15 Prayers for victims, their families, and the cops.

As Hal Moore (as played by Mel Gibson) once said, "And Lord? Ignore [the enemy's] heathen prayers and help us blow them all straight to Hell."

I kind of feel that way about cops (or armed citizens, for that matter) versus mass murderers.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (kff5f)

16 Fuck. 15 already.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (fWAjv)

17 ...and the media breathes a sigh of relief as they can rend their garments on this story instead of Obama getting his ass kicked by Putin and Hillary getting her ass kicked by a socialist.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (ppaKI)

18 I just saw an article that said the shooter is "down," whatever that means. Presumably shot.

Posted by: zombie at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (jBuUi)

19 Well, we know if shooter had a manifesto, we won't see it.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 02:48 PM (WDySP)

20 Obama is probably scheduling a presser right now. After he finishes his lunch of shrimp and a couple more hours of ESPN.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:49 PM (FsuaD)

21 Fifteen shot dead, aka Labor Day weekend in Chicago.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 02:49 PM (oKE6c)

22 This is so sad, and I'm so pissed. These gun free zones are like shooting ranges for crazy people. I hate that my daughter is a sitting duck at her college campus. Praying for everyone.

Posted by: spypeach at October 01, 2015 02:49 PM (KTiWT)

23 Well, we know if shooter had a manifesto, we won't see it.

Oh, We will if they can attach it to Conservatives...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:49 PM (hUdMz)

24 You can usually get better/faster info on facebook or twitter, like names of perps etc. Checking the facebook for the campus, not much up other than a few comments. The twitter stream is much more active right now

Posted by: Bigby's Dutch Rub at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (3ZtZW)

25 May God bless and comfort the families of the dead and injured.

Posted by: alexthechick - Yeah I give up at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (mf5HN)

26
I am so sorry for the parents of these students, who are probably glued to their cell phones, trying to reach their kids. Hoping that they answer their phone.


Lord have mercy.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (dFi94)

27 How's that gun free zone working out now?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (+c55T)

28
"Up to 15 people are feared dead after a shooter went on the rampage at Oregon Umpqua Community College. The shooter was reported to be roaming around campus, attacking students and staff.

Oregon State Police have confirmed that the shooter has been taken in to custody and that the active incident is now over, although they have also confirmed that at least 15 are dead in the mass school shooting."

Posted by: zombie at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (jBuUi)

29 Second only to the tragedy of the dead and the wounded and their families and friends... is the inevitable gleeful, ghoulish leftist attempts to use this for their agenda. Its so soullessly predictable and repugnant.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (39g3+)

30 Son has a carry permit, but can't carry on his campus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (FsuaD)

31 This is really poor reporting like always. Shep is breathless and hopped up on something

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (2x3L+)

32 26
I am so sorry for the parents of these students, who are probably glued to their cell phones, trying to reach their kids. Hoping that they answer their phone.


Lord have mercy.

Me too how heart wrenching...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (hUdMz)

33 Well, at least we know what the remainder of the primaries will be about.

Not to be callous, but we're going to have the same damned arguments we always do, and way before all the facts are in.

Horrible that defenseless students were murdered, and I'll leave it at that.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (XiVKO)

34 Sad.

Posted by: GBruno at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (u49WF)

35 Piers Morgan already doing a happy dance.

Posted by: V the K at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (O7MnT)

36 V the K for earliest and most accurate prediction.

At least recently I read that one of the most prescribed antidepressants will have a sterner warning.

#SternerWarningsSavesLives

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (sI4OA)

37 Shooter has been arrested according to

http://www.christianpost.com/ news/oregon-umpqua-community-college-shooting-latest-news -15-dead-many-wounded-shooter-down-146671/

(remove spaces)

Posted by: zombie at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (jBuUi)

38 Son has a carry permit, but can't carry on his campus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (FsuaD)


If it's concealed properly, they'll never know.

"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."

Which reminds me: I still need a good pocket gun. I keep putting off buying one because I have to do things like pay a mortgage and car payments.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (kff5f)

39 Prayers for the victims and their families.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (FsuaD)

40 * sigh of relief*

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (k8tEg)

41 Oregon State Police have confirmed that the shooter has been taken in to custody and that the active incident is now over, although they have also confirmed that at least 15 are dead in the mass school shooting.

Disgruntled student?

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (hUdMz)

42 30 Son has a carry permit, but can't carry on his campus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:50 PM (FsuaD)

Unless they use metal detectors, who's going to know?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (2Ojst)

43 Oh good the ATF is on the scene so they can shoot more people

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (2x3L+)

44 Listening to local news stream (KATU) - the shooter is in custody.

Posted by: OurCountryIsScrewed at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (DlmoZ)

45 30 Son has a carry permit, but can't carry on his campus.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:50 P

There is a reason it is called "concealed"

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (+c55T)

46 The shooter will have a history of mental illness and psychotropic medication.

They almost all do.

For some reason, it seems like the students would be less trapped at a community college, but I don't know why I would think that.

Posted by: Lea at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (lIU4e)

47 Well, at least we know what the remainder of the primaries will be about.

No, just the next debate, in between yelling birth control and abortion. Primaries are too far out, and nobody has any attention span any longer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (39g3+)

48 Ok, DailyKos has this as their front story as well.



And in the comments section you have the usual wishful thinking that a beautiful blue light like you might see in Star Trek will fall over the United States, dissolving every weapon and elevating all of humankind so such things never happen again.



CBC comments too.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (AC0lD)

49 That is horrible.

15?

Posted by: Carol at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (sj3Ax)

50 Oh good the ATF is on the scene so they can shoot more people

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 02:52 PM (2x3L+)


No. ATF is more likely to burn down the campus.

If it were San Francisco or New York cops you'd have to worry about more innocents being shot.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:53 PM (kff5f)

51 Son has a carry permit, but can't carry on his campus.

*raises eyebrow* That's why God Walther gave us the PP.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 02:53 PM (evdj2)

52 Arrested:

http://www.amny.com/news/ 15-killed-20-wounded-in-umpqua -community-college-shooting-in-oregon-reports-say-1.10912893


At least 15 people were killed and another 20 wounded at a shooting on Thursday at a community college in Roseburg, Oregon, media reported.
A Douglas County commissioner told CNN that the shooter had been taken into custody. CNN reported that one of the wounded was a female who had been shot in the chest.
A spokeswoman for the Douglas County Sheriff's department confirmed to Reuters that there was a shooting at the Umpqua Community College campus in Roseburg. The spokeswoman had no further details.
"Active shooter scene is code 4. Multiple casualties all pt's transported," the Douglas County Fire Department said in a tweet. Multiple ambulances were reported to be on scene.
The Portland Oregonian newspaper reported that officers responded at around 10:40 a.m. to reports of a shooting at the college. The Oregonian said police scanner traffic indicated that the shooter was "down."

Posted by: zombie at October 01, 2015 02:53 PM (jBuUi)

53 Pro Tip: shooting back at an active shooter frequently causes them to be less active.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 02:53 PM (Z9mio)

54 >>Fifteen shot dead, aka Labor Day weekend in Chicago.

#BlackLiveDon'tMatterWhenOtherBlacksKillThem

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 02:53 PM (/tuJf)

55
Which reminds me: I still need a good pocket gun. I keep putting off buying one because I have to do things like pay a mortgage and car payments.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:51 PM (kff5

I like my S&W Bodyguard .380. I was well equipped for $525 when I walked out of the gunshop.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 02:53 PM (+c55T)

56
If it's concealed properly, they'll never know.



"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."



Well, if he was discovered carrying, it's automatic expulsion.


Pretty sure he keeps one in his vehicle.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:54 PM (FsuaD)

57 Seems my decision to start drinking early was a good one.

Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2015 02:54 PM (2Ocf1)

58 We'll know something definite in the next day or seven.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 02:54 PM (hLRSq)

59 The college will turn out to be a Gun Free Zone.
2. The shooter will have a history of mental illness and psychotropic medication.
Posted by: V the K at October 01, 2015 02:47 PM (O7MnT)

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..... that or shouted ALLUHA AHKBAR!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 02:54 PM (8XRCm)

60 For some reason, it seems like the students would be less trapped at a community college, but I don't know why I would think that.

Because they tend to be smaller and more open - more avenues of escape which are closer.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:54 PM (kff5f)

61 Which reminds me: I still need a good pocket gun. I keep putting off buying one because I have to do things like pay a mortgage and car payments.

*cough*P64*cough*

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 02:54 PM (evdj2)

62 So it's another one - like Holmes - who surrendered, rather than committing suicide by cop?

What an utterly awful thing.

Posted by: Dianna at October 01, 2015 02:54 PM (DV/Ik)

63 Carrying on campus in Oregon is legal, but against school rules. As in, they can ask you to leave if they see it but you're not getting arrested.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (+lsX1)

64 We'll know something definite in the next day or seven.

Well it depends on if this piece of trash murder can be in someway connected to Conservatives...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (hUdMz)

65
I like my S&W Bodyguard .380. I was well equipped for $525 when I walked out of the gunshop.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 02:53 PM (+c55T)

I hate to tell you but you got ripped off.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (2Ojst)

66 I like my S&W Bodyguard .380. I was well equipped for $525 when I walked out of the gunshop.
-------------
*fistbump*
I carry the same. Great little gun.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (WDySP)

67 I like my S&W Bodyguard .380. I was well equipped for $525 when I walked out of the gunshop.

Yeah... that's a payment on one of my cars.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (kff5f)

68 WSJ only has multiple people down, but no number.

Posted by: Carol at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (sj3Ax)

69 I wonder how this could happen? Didn't they ban guns and confederate flags?

Posted by: setnaffa at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (BtRXi)

70 The shooter will have a history of mental illness and psychotropic medication.

And smoke weed.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 02:56 PM (39g3+)

71
So, what type of people live in Umpqua? Hippies? Hipsters? Indians? Federal employees? Loggers?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 02:56 PM (iQIUe)

72
The incident in Oregon was unexpected, but predictable with our current gun regulations that allows anyone to carry a weapon, ex-military, Christians, southerners, members of the militia, and the NRA.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 01, 2015 02:56 PM (OiFtZ)

73 @AllenG $325 will set you up with a Keltec PF9 that will do the trick.

Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2015 02:56 PM (2Ocf1)

74 murder


murderer.... geeez..

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:56 PM (hUdMz)

75 obtained gun illegally. Mental health issues. Must take all guns away from responsible owners.

Posted by: Jack at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (XhzTz)

76 We have a mass shooting and some think its witty to bash the first responders. Some of you guys are dicks.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (Z9mio)

77 15 people were killed and another 20 wounded

This is a huge shooting event. Damn.

We do need to find a better way to protect students. Just not 'a gun free zone'. Obviously, that doesn't work.

I'll mention again, that my state passed a law that teachers could carry under certain conditions. Should be interesting to see how that works out.

Posted by: Lea at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (lIU4e)

78 Which reminds me: I still need a good pocket gun. I keep putting off buying one because I have to do things like pay a mortgage and car payments.

==========

Get 5. You got lots of pocketses!

Posted by: Bigby's Dutch Rub at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (3ZtZW)

79 Those little pocket guns are just too damned small for my hands.

I'm a big fan of one manual of arms for pistols, so I guess the big question is what type of MoA's do you prefer, AllenG?

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (XiVKO)

80 How terrible...evil just does evil things.

Looks like Satan is here with my pineapple...gotta go.

Posted by: Zombie Charles Whitman at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (D0NZx)

81 I'm not going to watch live stream.

Posted by: Carol at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (sj3Ax)

82 Shep is sure excited. He's got a twofer today. A shooting and a hurricane.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (FsuaD)

83 7 Let me make two predictions:
1. The college will turn out to be a Gun Free Zone.
2. The shooter will have a history of mental illness and psychotropic medication.
Posted by: V the K at October 01, 2015 02:47 PM (O7MnT)



Pretty safe bet.


Instead of gun control - which even if you believe the liberals, would make no difference, since criminals would never comply - how about nutjob control?


How's about it, Supremes? How about reconsidering O'Connor v. Donaldson, and get these fruitcakes off the street?


The first time I went to Europe the train station at Zuerich was chock-a-block with young men walking around packing no-shit assault rifles: they were going to their annual training sessions for the Swiss army. Apparently they all keep their weapons at home all year long, and break them out for this annual training.


Yet Switzerland has no gun violence problem. (OK, they lack "diversity" there, but even so ...). OTOH, the Swiss drop a net over lunatics, whereas we let them run around loose.


Kinda sounds like a control experiment, doesn't it?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (oKE6c)

84 I like my S&W Bodyguard .380. I was well equipped for $525 when I walked out of the gunshop.
-------------
*fistbump*
I carry the same. Great little gun.
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (WDySP)

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Yup... almost got one myself. My pocket carry is a Taurus 738 tho.

My holster carry is an SW Shield in 9mm.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (8XRCm)

85 Prayers for the victims and their families.
Bricks for those that policize the tragedy.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (+aCe4)

86 Umpqua is mostly rural, some hippie types, some pot growers in the forest, mostly farming folks. Environmentalists have about gutted the logging industry in Oregon.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (39g3+)

87 76 We have a mass shooting and some think its witty to bash the first responders. Some of you guys are dicks.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (Z9mio)

What are you talking about?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (2Ojst)

88 That's the Blue Book value of my car.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (gmaUh)

89 Shep is sure excited. He's got a twofer today. A shooting and a hurricane.

Hopefully the adrenaline will kick in and .....out He goes..

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (hUdMz)

90 If it's a white Republican we will know his identity shortly. Any other category will require intensive investigation, no news released.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (RD7QR)

91 twit from twitter:

Piers Morgan (at) piersmorgan 5m5 minutes ago
137 school shootings in America since Sandy Hook.
ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN.

Posted by: mallfly at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (qSIlh)

92 Umpqua, unincorporated, population 112.

Er, was.

Posted by: Feh at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (ag00V)

93 Body count has changed to seven dead.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (FsuaD)

94 So, what type of people live in Umpqua? Hippies? Hipsters? Indians? Federal employees? Loggers?

At least some of them sell flies and fly-tying materials.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, whut is a proud Nitwit Lion at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (JtwS4)

95 This is already the fifth-worst school massacre in US history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States#List_of_U.S._school_attacks


1. Bath School disaster Bath Township, Michigan May 18 1927 45 Killed wife before bombing at school; committed suicide[505]

2. Virginia Tech massacre Blacksburg, Virginia April 16 2007 33 Committed suicide

3. Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting Newtown, Connecticut December 14 2012 27 Killed mother before mass shooting at school; committed suicide

4. University of Texas massacre Austin, Texas August 1 1966 16 Killed his wife and mother before shooting at the school; shot dead by police

5. Umpqua Community College 15 dead so far

6. Columbine High School massacre Littleton, Colorado April 20 1999 15 Both committed suicide

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Not including the Bath School Disaster and UT Austin, both of which happened a long time ago, this is the third worst massacre in the modern era, after VA Tech and Sandy Hook.

Posted by: zombie at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (jBuUi)

96 Oh and add a scottevest travel vest for 75 bucks.

Posted by: blaster at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (2Ocf1)

97 So, what type of people live in Umpqua? Hippies? Hipsters? Indians? Federal employees? Loggers?

Roseburg is a very conservative timber town. Loggers, mill workers.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (+lsX1)

98 is the inevitable gleeful, ghoulish leftist attempts to use this for their agenda.

-
Paging Piers Morgan! Piers Morgan to the black curtesy phone, please.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (lKSyl)

99 Sad. Waiting for politicizing of mental illness with guns vs majority of people with guns who are sane...and had one of these people been on campus perhaps outcome would have been different.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, aging supermodel Redneck Queen at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (LJ4iV)

100 Piers Morgan (at) piersmorgan 5m5 minutes ago
137 school shootings in America since Sandy Hook.
ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN.

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Hey.... Piers.

How many were at gun stores or firing ranges.???? Huh???

Oughtta tell you something donchthink??

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (8XRCm)

101 87 76 We have a mass shooting and some think its witty to bash the first responders. Some of you guys are dicks.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (Z9mio)
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ATF are not first responders, they are like the EPA SWAT team

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (WDySP)

102
Gun. Free. Zone.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 01, 2015 03:00 PM (ODxAs)

103 ATF are not first responders, they are like the EPA SWAT team

Exactly...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:00 PM (hUdMz)

104 >>Kinda sounds like a control experiment, doesn't it?

Sort of. Except that while they are required to keep their weapon at home, they are not given government ammunition. So unless they plan to beat someone to death with the gun, gun deaths are unlikely.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 03:00 PM (/tuJf)

105 The rampant speculation by know-it-alls on the blogs almost matches that in the news. I say almost because the blog speculation is merely derivative and not professional like the news.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 03:00 PM (hLRSq)

106 Radio said 7 down & many more injured.
They sheltered in place.

Posted by: Carol at October 01, 2015 03:00 PM (sj3Ax)

107 Not including the Bath School Disaster and UT Austin, both of which
happened a long time ago, this is the third worst massacre in the modern
era, after VA Tech and Sandy Hook.




Time to ban schools.

Posted by: Mortimer at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (0dcbp)

108 maybe NOT a gun-free zone. Some are saying concealed carry allowed.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (SCcgT)

109 I hate to tell you but you got ripped off.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (2Ojst

Well equipped means more than the gun in the original box.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (+c55T)

110 93 Body count has changed to seven dead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


Wha????

Posted by: zombie at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (jBuUi)

111 Gun. Free. Zone.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 01, 2015 03:00 PM (ODxAs)
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Yeah, I hate those little signs on the doors. They might as well say "Sitting Duck Zone".

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (dFi94)

112 I wonder if anybody has done a study comparing the rates of antidepressant usage and the number of mass shootings over time. Or even just the number of mass shootings since the beginning of de-institutionalization.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (RD7QR)

113 So tired of these dumb-ass shooters.

Grow the hell up and learn some problem-solving skills, idiots.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (a31sM)

114 Did you see the story about the Thai/Cambodian chick who started a fund: White people pay for my therapy? She claims she is a victim of micro aggression racism from whitey so we must pay!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (iQIUe)

115 Well equipped means more than the gun in the original box.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (+c55T)

Ah so...

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (2Ojst)

116 91 twit from twitter:

Piers Morgan (at) piersmorgan 5m5 minutes ago
137 school shootings in America since Sandy Hook.
ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN.
Posted by: mallfly at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (qSIlh)

Over a 300 knife attacks per week in Britain.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (Z9mio)

117 Shooting is being reported as in custody.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (lKSyl)

118 93 Body count has changed to seven dead.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 02:59 PM (FsuaD)




Did Obama fly out and lay hands on eight victims?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (oKE6c)

119 >>> Yeah... that's a payment on one of my cars.


If you don't mind knock-offs, companies like Hellcat copied Ruger's 380, which in itself seemed to be a copy of Keltec's etc. Hellcat's go for around 225-250 IIRC

Posted by: Bigby's Dutch Rub at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (3ZtZW)

120 Grow the hell up and learn some problem-solving skills, idiots.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer
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Common Core Coping Skills

Posted by: Roy at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (VndSC)

121 I'm certain we'll hear how Oregon is a hot bed for radical far right Tea Party groups who advocate mass shootings as a form of protest.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (Zs4uk)

122 So, what type of people live in Umpqua? Hippies? Hipsters? Indians? Federal employees? Loggers?

=======

Postal workers

Posted by: Bigby's Dutch Rub at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (3ZtZW)

123 I'm assuming 'no longer a threat' means 'approaching room temperature'

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (oEDuY)

124 But, but, but how did a gun get into a gun free zone? This makes no sense.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (2x3L+)

125
maybe NOT a gun-free zone. Some are saying concealed carry allowed.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (SCcgT)
===================

Are some of you getting updated information from Twitter? I used to do Twitter, then I stopped. Sometimes I wonder if I should go back.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (dFi94)

126 1. The college will turn out to be a Gun Free Zone.
2. The shooter will have a history of mental illness and psychotropic medication


Also the shooter is likely to be a heavy pot user. A lot of the shooters were such heavy users that people described them as "potheads" and very little else.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (Xd2w5)

127 I'm a big fan of one manual of arms for pistols, so I guess the big question is what type of MoA's do you prefer, AllenG?

I must admit I do not understand that question. As much as I'd like to be a "gun guy," I simply haven't the time nor funds.

My normal carry weapon is a Springfield XD-9.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (kff5f)

128

Too many families lost loved ones again today.

nightmare

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (qCMvj)

129 Posted by: mallfly at October 01, 2015 02:58 PM (qSIlh)



They like to throw numbers like that out there, but it's a bullshit stat based on bullshit criteria.


If gangbanger 1 shoots gangbanger 2 over a drug deal at 2AM on Saturday night in July in sight of a school, they count it as a "school shooting."

Posted by: Black Panther IT Dept at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (nL0sw)

130 Over a 300 knife attacks per week in Britain.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (Z9mio)

----

Why... thats almost as many as Muzzie rapes.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (8XRCm)

131 Shep hears they're eating people in the Superdome.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (oVJmc)

132 And smoke weed.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor


Which would be unusual in Oregon.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (JmGFJ)

133 Too many families lost loved ones again today.

nightmare

I'm just sickened by this...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:04 PM (hUdMz)

134
>>>Yet Switzerland has no gun violence problem. (OK, they lack "diversity" there, but even so ...). OTOH, the Swiss drop a net over lunatics, whereas we let them run around loose

Key words lack of diversity

Posted by: f at October 01, 2015 03:04 PM (+c55T)

135 112 I wonder if anybody has done a study comparing the rates of antidepressant usage and the number of mass shootings over time. Or even just the number of mass shootings since the beginning of de-institutionalization.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (RD7QR)




De-institutionalization is the key.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:04 PM (oKE6c)

136
My normal carry weapon is a Springfield XD-9.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at Octob


And here I was under the impression you didn't have a carry piece due to the house & car payments. My bad.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:05 PM (+c55T)

137 Over a 300 knife attacks per week in Britain.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (Z9mio)

Is that a verified statistic?

Posted by: joe at October 01, 2015 03:05 PM (KUaJL)

138 Some are saying concealed carry allowed.

Legal, but against school rules.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:05 PM (+lsX1)

139 obtained gun illegally. Mental health issues. Must take all guns away from responsible owners.


One whack job with gun - indict ALL Gun owners.

One muzzie goes off - DON'T YOU DARE SMEAR ALL MUZZIES!!!!eleventy111

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:05 PM (D5XRv)

140 I'm certain we'll hear how Oregon is a hot bed for radical far right Tea Party groups who advocate mass shootings as a form of protest.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:03 PM (Zs4uk)





Actually, here's what Oregon actually is a hotbed for: http://tinyurl.com/n7fewdq

Posted by: Black Panther IT Dept at October 01, 2015 03:06 PM (nL0sw)

141 >>>Yet Switzerland has no gun violence problem. (OK, they lack
"diversity" there, but even so ...). OTOH, the Swiss drop a net over
lunatics, whereas we let them run around loose



Key words lack of diversity



Oh, they're getting "diversified." Friends were over there not long ago. Muzzie cab drivers, etc.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 03:06 PM (FsuaD)

142
This entire incident is directly related to republican intransigence on gun control.

Posted by: Geraldo Riviera, Liberal Butt Boy at October 01, 2015 03:06 PM (OiFtZ)

143 http://is.gd/PP6Yyr

huh. There are cheaper ones

Posted by: Bigby's Dutch Rub at October 01, 2015 03:06 PM (3ZtZW)

144 I'm just gonna do what the Corrupt Media does so, yeah, I heard it was an Occupy Wall Street / Black Lives Matter / ISIS supporter who left a manifesto saying "I am doing it all for Obama."

Posted by: Tippi at October 01, 2015 03:06 PM (Y8P5w)

145 67 I like my S&W Bodyguard .380. I was well equipped for $525 when I walked out of the gunshop.

Yeah... that's a payment on one of my cars.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (kff5f)

What the hell do you drive, AllenG? A BMW?

You pay $525 a month as a payment for just ONE of your cars?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (AkOaV)

146 112 I wonder if anybody has done a study comparing the rates of antidepressant usage and the number of mass shootings over time. Or even just the number of mass shootings since the beginning of de-institutionalization.Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (RD7QR

Somebody has done a prescription to shooter ratio on a blog I saw recently. The list of Individuals and their medications was hundred plus long. Long story short, one to one ratio.

Some of these antidepressants have a curious side effect, homicidal actions. Just need a sterner warning, that's all.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (sI4OA)

147 Students for Concealed Carry shows Umpqua as "CC allowed"

Seen on HA, unable to confirm.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (SCcgT)

148 Up to 30 rounds shot but no noise. No shots of gunfire heard

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (2x3L+)

149 By manual of arms I mean do you like single action only with a safety, double action/single action, striker fired, etc?

But you answered this by saying you carry an XD-9, so strikers.

Personally, I like Glocks and would say a 43, but I know that grip angle is not for everyone.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (XiVKO)

150 Off, database sock

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (nL0sw)

151 Sarah Palin is known to have visited and even spoke at numerous Community Colleges.

Draw your own conclusions.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (Zs4uk)

152 112
I wonder if anybody has done a study comparing the rates of
antidepressant usage and the number of mass shootings over time. Or even
just the number of mass shootings since the beginning of
de-institutionalization.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (RD7QR)

Eagerly waiting for "You might commit a mass shooting" in the list of side effects on a television ad for anti-depressants.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (4ErVI)

153 This is what happens when colleges are not deconflicted zones.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 03:08 PM (/tuJf)

154 151 Sarah Palin is known to have visited and even spoke at numerous Community Colleges.

Draw your own conclusions.

I heard Trump was there...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:08 PM (hUdMz)

155 I wonder if anybody has done a study comparing the rates of antidepressant usage and the number of mass shootings over time.
Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:01 PM (RD7QR)


There seem to be a lot of blaming of drugs when these things happen...rather than the underlying illness. I am inclined to blame the later not the former, unless I have some very good evidence to reverse the two...

Posted by: Lea at October 01, 2015 03:08 PM (lIU4e)

156 I wonder how Piers inflated the number in his tweet.

Posted by: Me. Healthy Penis at October 01, 2015 03:08 PM (LYCUN)

157 And here I was under the impression you didn't have a carry piece due to the house & car payments. My bad.

Yeah. I have a normal carry piece (saved up for most of year for it, too), but it's too big for a pocket gun, and I'm required to have my shirt tucked in at work. So I need something I can reasonably carry in my pocket or an ankle holster.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 03:08 PM (kff5f)

158 Posted by: Geraldo Riviera, Liberal Butt Boy at October 01, 2015 03:06 PM (OiFtZ)


Crap. I'll bet that idiot will be on The Five today.


The up-side will be him losing it and challenging Eric Bolling to a fight. Again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 03:09 PM (FsuaD)

159 137 Over a 300 knife attacks per week in Britain.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (Z9mio)

Is that a verified statistic?
Posted by: joe at October 01, 2015 03:05 PM (KUaJL)

The article I read it at seems to think so. Can't recall where I read it but I'm sure I could google it.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:09 PM (Z9mio)

160 I wonder how Piers inflated the number in his tweet.

Posted by: Me. Healthy Penis at October 01, 2015 03:08 PM (LYCUN)




See my post at 129.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 03:09 PM (nL0sw)

161 Somebody has done a prescription to shooter ratio on
a blog I saw recently. The list of Individuals and their medications
was hundred plus long. Long story short, one to one ratio.



Some of these antidepressants have a curious side effect, homicidal actions. Just need a sterner warning, that's all.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (sI4OA)
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Anti-depressant medication use is vastly widespread. I don't have any statistics (read: laziness) but a yuuuge number of the US population take antidepressents at some point in their lives. A very teensy tiny portion of that number become school shooters.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:09 PM (dFi94)

162 You pay $525 a month as a payment for just ONE of your cars?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (AkOaV)


Wife's car is a Ford Explorer with bells and whistles.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 03:09 PM (kff5f)

163 The up-side will be him losing it and challenging Eric Bolling to a fight. Again.

I'd pay to see that...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (hUdMz)

164
They act like no one is ever murdered in the uK/Europe. I rather be cut down by a bullet from a nut job than have my head chopped off or blown off by a splodey dope.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (iQIUe)

165 Which reminds me: I still need a good pocket gun. I keep putting off buying one because I have to do things like pay a mortgage and car payments.

==========

Get 5. You got lots of pocketses!

Posted by: Bigby's Dutch Rub at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (3ZtZW)

Check out some of the gun shops or pawn shops who deal in firearms in your area for the type of pistol or revolver you want and see if they will work with you on a lay-away program where you pay a little each month and within 6 months or so you get the firearm. Can't hurt and it works for small wallets. Better late than never.

Posted by: Zombie Fagen at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (D0NZx)

166 Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)

167 Oh goody! We get to distract everybody from Obama's Russia-Iran-Syria disaster for a few days! Gun Control Talking Points Series 5 is in effect, everybody!

Posted by: Corrupt Media at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (Y8P5w)

168
There is no indication the Oregon shooter was an immigrant, but we can conclude from previous shootings he's probably a member of the Tea Party.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 01, 2015 03:11 PM (OiFtZ)

169 167 Oh goody! We get to distract everybody from Obama's Russia-Iran-Syria disaster for a few days! Gun Control Talking Points Series 5 is in effect, everybody!

Which makes the situation even worse...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:11 PM (hUdMz)

170
Wife's car is a Ford Explorer with bells and whistles.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 03:09 PM (kff5f)

That'll do it. I like the Explorer, but my main problem is there's no leg room in the third row.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:11 PM (2Ojst)

171 162
You pay $525 a month as a payment for just ONE of your cars?



Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (AkOaV)



That's nothing. You should see my Rolls payment.

Posted by: Topper Moo Moo at October 01, 2015 03:11 PM (FsuaD)

172 Another thread that tempts me to comment, but my bad attitude prevents any civil comment.

Limericks seem inappropriate.

So I'll just express my condolences to the bereaved, contempt for the perpetrator, and something something for the government officials as appropriate.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 01, 2015 03:11 PM (mheYt)

173 See my post at 129.
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Yeah that's what I figured. I think I actually remember one or two stories here in Atlanta that started as school shootings and then ended up being a, uh, private event a couple streets over from a school.

Posted by: Me. Healthy Penis at October 01, 2015 03:11 PM (LYCUN)

174 >>They act like no one is ever murdered in the uK/Europe. I rather be cut down by a bullet from a nut job than have my head chopped off or blown off by a splodey dope.

I'm going with sexed to death.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (/tuJf)

175 Yeah. I have a normal carry piece (saved up for most of year for it, too), but it's too big for a pocket gun, and I'm required to have my shirt tucked in at work. So I need something I can reasonably carry in my pocket or an ankle holster.


Cheaper to buy a Maxpedition briefcase.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (D5XRv)

176 maybe NOT a gun-free zone. Some are saying concealed carry allowed.
From their website:

"Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited."

Keep those dangerous water pistols at home please.

Also, I read elsewhere there are 7-10 dead, 20 injured. Not 15 dead. Of course, we should wait for firmer details.

Prayers.

Posted by: Steven S. at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (JpEvT)

177 Dammit, (FsuaD), you ruined my monitor.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (XiVKO)

178 Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc


What's the presumed origin of this, please?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, whut is a proud Nitwit Lion at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (JtwS4)

179 Gun free campus. What could go wrong?

Posted by: maddogg at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (xWW96)

180 166 Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)

4Chan, the site of choice for the mentally ill. (Sigh)

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (RD7QR)

181 5 to 1 odds shooter is the disturbed and medicated son of local Dems. This has been the profile of all school shooters.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (oDCMR)

182 Somewhat OT-

Father of MPHS shooter convicted of gun charges.

http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/marysville-shooting/ 2015/09/29/raymond-fryberg-trial/73056878/

remove spaces

Posted by: Couch Fucker at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (1DH1V)

183 Somebody has done a prescription to shooter ratio on
a blog I saw recently. The list of Individuals and their medications
was hundred plus long. Long story short, one to one ratio.



Some of these antidepressants have a curious side effect, homicidal actions. Just need a sterner warning, that's all.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (sI4OA)

It's important to guard against potentially fallacious reasoning here. Assuming those data are not cherry-picked, it's tempting to infer from them a causal relationship, viz., that antidepressant usage causes homicidal actions.
But it's at least equally plausible that antidepressant usage and homicidal actions are consequences of a common cause, namely, mental illness. After all, a falling barometer does not cause rain; rather, a falling barometer and rain are both caused by an advancing low pressure system.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (oKE6c)

184 181 5 to 1 odds shooter is the disturbed and medicated son of local Dems. This has been the profile of all school shooters.

If that's the case we'll never hear it...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (hUdMz)

185 Yeah... that's a payment on one of my cars.
Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - Fire-hooks and Rock Salt for sale at October 01, 2015 02:55 PM (kff5f)

Ouch. Is that a pickup truck payment?

We are fortunate, one vehicle is paid for and the other one's payment is about half of that. I won't even tell you what our mtg payment is

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (+c55T)

186 Eagerly waiting for "You might commit a mass shooting" in the list of side effects on a television ad for anti-depressants.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:07 PM (4ErVI)

The warning now say "this anti depressant may cause suicidal thoughts" which would seem to ... be the opposite of what you'd want an anti depressant to do.

I think it won't be long until that's changed to "suicidal or homicidal"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (AkOaV)

187 Gawd, this is awful!

Is this the new normal?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (NOIQH)

188 I predict that the death count will fluctuate between one and fifty thousand, depending on the level of hysteric hyperbole in the newscaster.

I also predict that Shep Smith will report that the ground has opened and the damned Legions of Hades have been summoned to march on Portland.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 03:14 PM (hLRSq)

189 That'll do it. I like the Explorer, but my main problem is there's no leg room in the third row



You need the Ford Exponential for third row leg room.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:14 PM (D5XRv)

190 @166

What the fuck is wrong with people?

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:14 PM (t06LC)

191 166
Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)


Jeebus. And none of his buddies thought to alert the police? WTF?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 03:14 PM (FsuaD)

192 187 Gawd, this is awful!

Is this the new normal?

Under obamas watch it seems so...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:14 PM (hUdMz)

193 >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc

Holy shit is right!

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:14 PM (2x3L+)

194 95
This is already the fifth-worst school massacre in US history:

I grew up near Bath and the town never recovered. Been a couple times and walking around the tiny downtown with no buildings newer than 1950. I don't believe in ghosts but i could feel the presence of all those unsettled kids hanging around. Extremely creepy. Always felt cool and cloudy even on sunny days.

Posted by: pashmr at October 01, 2015 03:14 PM (3aNC4)

195 76: "Some of you guys are dicks."

So are many first responders.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 01, 2015 03:15 PM (4nmNX)

196 I'm going with sexed to death.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (/tuJf)


Ms. Dunham, Mr. Straw; Mr. Straw, Ms. Dunham. I'll leave you two to get better acquainted.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 03:15 PM (hLRSq)

197 184 181 5 to 1 odds shooter is the disturbed and medicated son of local Dems. This has been the profile of all school shooters.

If that's the case we'll never hear it...
Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (hUdMz

Of course not donna. It is so much easier to blame an inanimate object.

But then there is MADD. So the left is hypocritical

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:15 PM (+c55T)

198 If there's one thing Freakonomics has taught us, there's no way the prescription to violence data wouldn't be manipulated.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 03:15 PM (XiVKO)

199 Which one of you racist Tea baggers did this?

p.s Did I mention you were racist?

Posted by: Brian Ross at October 01, 2015 03:15 PM (/sWxO)

200 Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:13 PM (oKE6c)
=======================



Thank you. And there's also the flipside. Perhaps a number of violent acts are actually prevented by the use of medications such as anti-depressants, acting as a stabilizing agent.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:16 PM (dFi94)

201 Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)


Is this sick thing real? ugh.

Posted by: Lea at October 01, 2015 03:16 PM (lIU4e)

202
We'll see when the reports come out if any CCW folks were near by since Oregon law allows CC on campus.

Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 03:16 PM (/uJMx)

203 >>But it's at least equally plausible that antidepressant usage and homicidal actions are consequences of a common cause, namely, mental illness.


A lot of the recent ones have also been heavy pot-smokers. Add that to the mix of mentally unstable + serious medications, especially if they started smoking as kids.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 03:17 PM (NOIQH)

204 Planned Parenthood averaging 900 abortions per day. 37 an hour. Every hour of the year. They use medical instruments, not guns.

All lives matter.

Posted by: MostlyRight at October 01, 2015 03:17 PM (RAGuf)

205
A lot of the recent ones have also been heavy pot-smokers. Add that to the mix of mentally unstable + serious medications, especially if they started smoking as kids.


Don't forget the Confederate flag...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:17 PM (hUdMz)

206 In some countries this is an every day occurrence:

ISRAEL - SHATTERING: Arab terrorists shot parents to death in presence of their 4 young kids while driving their car

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:17 PM (iQIUe)

207 Here come the "WE MUST DO SOMETHING!!!!!" posts on FB.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 01, 2015 03:18 PM (vgIRn)

208 Really like my Ruger LCR ... but it's definitely an individual choice.

Posted by: Irony at October 01, 2015 03:18 PM (9miVc)

209 So I need something I can reasonably carry in my pocket or an ankle holster.

I know I beat it to death but I love my 64 as a pocket gun. 6 in the mag and one in the pipe. Firing pin capture and blocking safety that I'm willing to carry next to my balls in condition 2.

Still available as low as $195 plus plus.

http://www.wikiarms.com/guns?q=p64

If you search flikr for toby928, you can see my nonprinting free pocket holster.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 03:18 PM (evdj2)

210
Without knowing any details, the ObamaBot has called for more gun control.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:18 PM (iQIUe)

211 174 >>They act like no one is ever murdered in the uK/Europe. I rather be cut down by a bullet from a nut job than have my head chopped off or blown off by a splodey dope.

I'm going with sexed to death.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 03:12 PM (/tuJf

Dont give Nevergiveup any ideas.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:18 PM (+c55T)

212 Thank you. And there's also the flipside. Perhaps a number of violent acts are actually prevented by the use of medications such as anti-depressants, acting as a stabilizing agent.
Posted by: grammie winger



Used to be prevented by State Nut Houses.

Thanks Dems!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:19 PM (D5XRv)

213 >>Ms. Dunham, Mr. Straw; Mr. Straw, Ms. Dunham. I'll leave you two to get better acquainted.

Thanks, but my plan included a woman.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 03:19 PM (/tuJf)

214 Link from Drudge shows police stopping and searching people trying to get away from the scene. Because a shooter who killed 15 people would wait patiently in a line to be searched, that's why.

Posted by: OCBill at October 01, 2015 03:19 PM (2x1jV)

215 Without knowing any details, the ObamaBot has called for more gun control.

F**k them to hell. The bodies aren't even cold yet.... Ghouls...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:19 PM (hUdMz)

216 171 162
You pay $525 a month as a payment for just ONE of your cars?


I only pay $329.00 a month on my new Lexus LS460 L.

Of course, the down payment was more than my first house.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:19 PM (Zs4uk)

217 137 Over a 300 knife attacks per week in Britain.
Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:02 PM (Z9mio)

Is that a verified statistic?

Posted by: joe at October 01, 2015 03:05 PM (KUaJL)

No. It's actually 350 PER DAY, according to the DM (in 200.

Posted by: In Exile at October 01, 2015 03:20 PM (QThya)

218 >>>Which reminds me: I still need a good pocket gun. I keep putting off
buying one because I have to do things like pay a mortgage and car
payments.



==========



Get 5. You got lots of pocketses!



Posted by: Bigby's Dutch Rub at October 01, 2015 02:57 PM (3ZtZW)



Check out some of the gun shops or pawn shops who deal in firearms
in your area for the type of pistol or revolver you want and see if they
will work with you on a lay-away program where you pay a little each
month and within 6 months or so you get the firearm. Can't hurt and it
works for small wallets. Better late than never.
.
.
.Buds Guns here in Kentucky has a 180 day lawaway plan and they will ship to any FFL Dealer in the US. They have some good specials too if you have cash.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 01, 2015 03:20 PM (iONHu)

219 >>Don't forget the Confederate flag...


Don't recall that affecting brain development....

Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 03:20 PM (NOIQH)

220 looks like the ban boners are fully erect on both sides

Posted by: x at October 01, 2015 03:20 PM (57fhp)

221 There seem to be a lot of blaming of drugs when these things happen...rather than the underlying illness. I am inclined to blame the later not the former, unless I have some very good evidence to reverse the two...

Posted by: Lea at October 01, 2015 03:08 PM (lIU4e)


The drugs can turn pathetically depressed people who might just never go out and possibly die alone of starvation in their rooms into raving homicidal maniacs who feel the urge to go out in a blaze of blood-soaked glory. These drugs play with the mind in deep, intense, and weird ways. Just like the crazy Ambien type drugs that have people blacking out while doing all sorts of stuff, including driving around.

Psychiatrists have no idea what any of these drugs really do (which is obvious since we know so little about how the brain and the mind work) but if they see one decent effect from a drug they can get it approved for that purpose, even as it make s a total mess of the rest of the mind ... and for people who are already nuts to begin with, making a mess of their messes of minds isn't a great thing to be playing around with.

If someone cannot be trusted to be sane and not a danger to others without drugs then that person cannot be trusted to be walking around free. If a person is just a danger to himself then that is an issue where less concern is warranted.

But, through these drugs, we are taking people who might be dangers to themselves and turning them into dangers to others, which is wrong on every level.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 01, 2015 03:20 PM (zc3Db)

222 201 Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)

Is this sick thing real? ugh.
Posted by: Lea

I can only echo Lea.

Posted by: Dianna at October 01, 2015 03:20 PM (DV/Ik)

223 Anti-depressant medication use is vastly widespread. I don't have any statistics (read: laziness) but a yuuuge number of the US population take antidepressents at some point in their lives. A very teensy tiny portion of that number become school shooters.Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October

I've seen estimates as high as 40% of the population at some point in their lives have used them. I worry about children, and I include college age students as children -- like 0bamacare does, getting prescribed without follow-up mental health testing or treatment.

Children should not be getting powerful antidepressants without follow-up. Yeah I understand adults losing jobs, divorce, separation, death of loved one, stuff that should make you sad.

But rampant prescribing of children? Something else is wrong. My .02, worth every penny.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (sI4OA)

224 166
Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)

WTF is wrong with people?

Posted by: Couch Fucker at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (1DH1V)

225
Is this sick thing real? ugh.
Posted by: Lea

I can only echo Lea.

I'm not gonna look...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (hUdMz)

226 Don't forget the Confederate flag...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:17 PM (hUdMz)





To be fair, Oregon was founded on the premise of "no blacks allowed."


http://tinyurl.com/lacf6br

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (nL0sw)

227 A beta uprising typically consists of mass rebellion against the elites, the deification of youth, the ever mounting expropriation of the well-to-do until they begin to defend themselves, whereupon the masses select a 'leader' whose task it is to protect 'the people'; we see the bodyguards paid by the demagogue, the flight of the wealthy and of the intellectuals, the rejection of democracy by the desperate upper classes as a result of this development, the evolution from 'protection' to tyranny, the spoliation of the temples, the militarization of the masses, the recruiting of criminals into the police force, the provocation of military conflicts in order to impose emergency measures at home and thus a stricter national discipline, finally 'purges' and a mounting wave of corruption.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (fWAjv)

228 At least some anti-depressant and anti-anxiety meds can *cause* anger and anxiety. Not just fail to control them.

I'm on a heart medicine that is also an anti-anxiety med and it definitely, no-shit *causes* anxiety, anger, and aggression. Not out of control, in my case, but not something I can stop or eliminate either, because it's chemically-induced.

Also, really irritating. I just get really mad over some stupid crap, then "oh, it's the jackass drug again."

For someone else it might be worse, especially if they didn't *know* what was causing it.

For someone who was dumb or irrational, it could definitely spark a violent outburst.

It would help if doctors weren't so butt-ass ignorant and in denial about side effects. I'll bet most reports aren't even passed on to the pharmaceutical companies, which is part of the reason (aside from desperate fear of lawsuits) everyone is dragging their feet on these problems.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (bLnSU)

229 If I ran for President, one of my platforms would be to bring back the chair.

Anytime these fuckers get convicted, they get old sparky. Speedy trial within a week of arrest. Live broadcasting of the execution on cable television. All profits from advertising go to the victims families.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (9VLhN)

230 Used to be prevented by State Nut Houses.

Thanks Dems!
Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:19 PM (D5XRv)



In fairness, closing them down was a bipartisan thing. Dems claimed it violated civil rights, Repubs didn't want to foot the bill.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (vgIRn)

231 Piers Morgan (at) piersmorgan 5m5 minutes ago
137 school shootings in America since Sandy Hook.


Yeah, if you you include all shootings that take place near schools, including suicides. He's trying to make it seem like people are in schools blasting away constantly and that's really rare.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (39g3+)

232 Don't forget the Confederate flag...


Don't recall that affecting brain development...



It's affected Dems' brains.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:22 PM (D5XRv)

233 Oregon Law pertain to schools:
Section 166.370(3)(f)

Possession of a firearm on school property if the firearm:
(A) Is possessed by a person who is not otherwise prohibited from possessing the firearm; and
(B) Is unloaded and locked in a motor vehicle.

----

So... no. Not really CCW on campus if you have to be unloaded and locked in your car.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 03:22 PM (8XRCm)

234 Another false flag shooting in Umpqua Community College in Oregon. The government is bound and determined to get our guns. I wonder how many crisis actors were used in this one.

Posted by: Peter Piper at October 01, 2015 03:22 PM (EQcBw)

235 I bet during threads like this, for every posted comment there have been 10 that have been typed out and deleted out of respect to ace and just to keep the house clean....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 01, 2015 03:22 PM (AC0lD)

236 I wonder if the community college is a Gun Free Zone?

Posted by: logprof at October 01, 2015 03:23 PM (vsbNu)

237


To be fair, Oregon was founded on the premise of "no blacks allowed."


Damn Southern rednecks.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 01, 2015 03:23 PM (oVJmc)

238 163: "I'd pay to see that..."

I'd be in my living room yelling at Eric to go for the nose.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 01, 2015 03:23 PM (4nmNX)

239 Without knowing any details, the ObamaBot has called for more gun control.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:18 PM (iQIUe)




Well, with his record of accuracy we're now assured it was a Fast and Furious gun.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 03:23 PM (nL0sw)

240 When schizoid persons kill its because they did not take their medications.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:23 PM (Z9mio)

241 Posted by: Peter Piper at October 01, 2015 03:22 PM (EQcBw)

Yourself.

Go fuck it.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 01, 2015 03:23 PM (oVJmc)

242 191 166
Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)


_________

That can't be real.
Can it?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:24 PM (0LHZx)

243 Crisis actors?

Clean up on 234.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, whut is a proud Nitwit Lion at October 01, 2015 03:24 PM (JtwS4)

244 234 Another false flag shooting in Umpqua Community College in Oregon. The government is bound and determined to get our guns. I wonder how many crisis actors were used in this one.
Posted by: Peter Piper at October 01, 2015 03:22 PM (EQcBw)

- - - -

Ban this fucker, please.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 01, 2015 03:24 PM (9VLhN)

245 People saying that we should be careful about correlating antidepressants with shooters are right. The problem is more probably traceable to de-institutionalization. To go back to the VA Tech massacre, the shooter was in psychiatric care at one point but they let him go because they could only keep him for so long. It's a ridiculous policy.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

246 That can't be real.

Can it?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:24 PM (0LHZx)


Saw it. Yeah, it's probably real. The world's full of pretty f'ed up people.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (AC0lD)

247 But, through these drugs, we are taking people who might be dangers to themselves and turning them into dangers to others, which is wrong on every level.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 01, 2015 03:20 PM (zc3Db)


Please show me the proof of this.

I do agree we should be institutionalizing some people. I do not agree that just because we find out someone who had a host of mental health issues was on an anti-depressant that that means they are evil, dangerous things.

Posted by: Lea at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (lIU4e)

248 243 Crisis actors?

Clean up on 234.

Get that asshole out of here...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (hUdMz)

249 In fairness, closing them down was a bipartisan thing. Dems claimed it violated civil rights, Repubs didn't want to foot the bill.

Actually it was the result of a court ruling.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (39g3+)

250 Holy shit: http://tinyurl.com/ozrrajc

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:10 PM (+lsX1)

OMG, that link was horrible to read, wtf is wrong with people, this is not a video game, and why the hell wouldn't anybody alert the police. What a sick, evil world we live in.

Posted by: spypeach at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (KTiWT)

251 Piss off, Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (evdj2)

252 Aaaaaaand we have our first "false flag" ahole.

Well played sir. Unfortunately, you must have mistyped "stormfront" in the address bar.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (t06LC)

253 I can't believe the likes of Peter Piper actually exist.

Posted by: logprof at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (vsbNu)

254 Apparently Obama has more trust in Iran with nukes than ordinary Americans with handguns.

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (PFy0L)

255 Thank you. And there's also the flipside. Perhaps a
number of violent acts are actually prevented by the use of medications
such as anti-depressants, acting as a stabilizing agent.


Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:16 PM (dFi94)

Yep.
I have had a fantasy of teaching a course on critical thinking and logical fallacies, and using newspaper articles as the grist for it (because newspapers abound in logical fallacies).
As an example: an article claiming breast-fed children often have higher IQs than bottle-fed ones, inviting the conclusion that breast-feeding causes the higher IQs.

Of course, there's a strong confounding factor: women who are in a position to breast-feed are likely to be higher up the socioeconomic food chain, and therefore also likely to be of higher IQ themselves, and IQ has a hefty heritable component. A partner at a law firm can probably get accommodation to breast-feed; an associate at Walmart, not so much.

In structure, that argument is like saying children with trust funds often have higher IQs, so if you want your kid to be smart, establish a trust fund.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (oKE6c)

256 Can someone summarize Grizzle's link? I cant get to it from work...

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (WDySP)

257 Of course anytime there is a tragedy we get a nasty POS troll show up

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (2x3L+)

258 Thanks, but my plan included a woman.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 01, 2015 03:19 PM (/tuJf)

Sorry - AoSHQ budget cuts. Someone splurged on vodka, flea dip, and conditioner.


You planned for a woman.
You'll get Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 03:27 PM (hLRSq)

259 Russia has Beslan. Piers Morgan should move back to Perfidious Albion.

Posted by: setnaffa at October 01, 2015 03:27 PM (BtRXi)

260 Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (t06LC)



I hate to say it, but Drudge has some culpability with his constant linking of Alex Jones.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 03:27 PM (nL0sw)

261 Poor timing or excellent timing for the WH, you be the judge...

From @WhiteHouse: RT if you agree: It's time to make community college free for responsible students

Shooter angry not have free college?

Posted by: LizLem at October 01, 2015 03:27 PM (hvf9s)

262 Please please please let Geraldo be on The Five today.

Please.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 03:27 PM (FsuaD)

263 Nutfucks blog?

(only one entry)


http://tinyurl.com/plcke85

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:28 PM (fWAjv)

264 I hear this meme that guns dont kill people but make it easier for people who want to kill people to do so. They never factor in that guns make it impossible for people without guns to kill you. Stabbed to death or strangled is just as dead.

How come lefties hate women and the elderly?

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:28 PM (iQIUe)

265 What if the false flag comment is a false flag?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:28 PM (bLnSU)

266 @260

Yeah, you do have a point there.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:28 PM (t06LC)

267 After the shooting story, Fox should send Shep on hurricane reporting duty.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (FsuaD)

268 What if the false flag comment is a false flag?

Layers, like an onion.

Posted by: Wheels within wheels at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (evdj2)

269 So has the monster been identified yet?

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (hUdMz)

270 256
Op alluding to an attack "stay away from school tomorrow if you're in north west", bunch of people saying do it do it.


Sick

Posted by: traye at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (R0rDw)

271 So... no. Not really CCW on campus if you have to be unloaded and locked in your car.

Those rules don't apply to CHL holders.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (+lsX1)

272 Also, I've found that different brands of pistols have widely variable prices, depending on location. Around me, Glocks go for a little over MSRP, in other places they go for much less.

Yes, I know there's internetz and whatnot, and I'm all the way onboard when you're talking a $2,000 firearm. But there's a real diminishing return when it's a $350-$500 pistol once shipping and FFL fees come into play.

So, that can also be a big consideration when talking about a pocket pistol.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (XiVKO)

273 256 Can someone summarize Grizzle's link? I cant get to it from work...

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (WDySP)

It's a 4chan thread where the shooter tells members not to go to school tomorrow if you're in the northwest.

Many of the members encouraged him to do it.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (fWAjv)

274 I can't with the newscasters reading twitter comments like they are news copy.

Posted by: not the mama at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (JPYxJ)

275 You wanted a woman.
You'll settle for a walrus.
You'll get Lena Dunham.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (2Ojst)

276 the shooter was in psychiatric care at one point
but they let him go because they could only keep him for so long. It's a
ridiculous policy.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

===================
I believe you can only put a psych hold on an adult for three days, and then you have to let him go unless he or she voluntarily commits themselves or they are determined to be a danger to themselves or others. One adult cannot commit another adult, which sometimes means a parent cannot commit their child if that child is over 18, even if they know that child is unstable.

On the other hand, it also means that your political adversary, or a government official, cannot have you committed against your will.
This is one of the dilemmas of living in a free society. There is going to be some risk.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (dFi94)

277 Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 03:26 PM (WDySP)

Chatter back and forth. A person on Wednesday saying don't go to school in the Northwest tomorrow because they'll be a school shooting, while others saying things Like "pick this type of school. It will be a better target."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2015 03:30 PM (cgZPg)

278
265 What if the false flag comment is a false flag?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:28 PM (bLnSU)

Layers within layers man. Its like the Inception of blog posts.

(but I do suspect you're right; moby or just average joe)

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:30 PM (t06LC)

279 234: "I wonder how many crisis actors were used in this one."

Dafuq?

Hope that was a very poor joke.

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 01, 2015 03:30 PM (4nmNX)

280 My wife was prescribed the usual anti-depressants which were supposed to double as relief for her nerve pain.


It put her in a very, very dark and dysfunctional place for a long time and took nearly half a year after weaning off of them for her brain chemistry to right itself again.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at October 01, 2015 03:30 PM (Wckf4)

281 and just like that, Russia's actions in Syria are wiped off the front page, never to be heard from again.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:31 PM (0LHZx)

282 The effed up thing about trollington's spiel is that...well, I can't entirely discount a scenario where some true believer edu-indoctrinator identifies an appropriately unstable student and primes him to commit some atrocity like this to further the cause.

I honestly can't dismiss it any longer.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 03:31 PM (9krrF)

283
Layers, like an onion.
Posted by: Wheels within wheels at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (evdj2)

Its been a long day i read that as

Lawyers, like an onion.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:31 PM (+c55T)

284 What the hell is with the stupid frog crap?

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at October 01, 2015 03:31 PM (mcm0N)

285 281 and just like that, Russia's actions in Syria are wiped off the front page, never to be heard from again.

Did they ever make the front page?

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:31 PM (hUdMz)

286 I do not agree that just because we find out someone who had a host of mental health issues was on an anti-depressant that that means they are evil, dangerous things.

Posted by: Lea at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (lIU4e)


I didn't say that these types of drugs are evil things. THey certainly are dangerous and very serious. What is evil is handing them out like candy to disturbed people without any real supervision.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 01, 2015 03:32 PM (zc3Db)

287 So, that can also be a big consideration when talking about a pocket pistol.


Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (XiVKO)

Adds at least $35-$40 bucks to cost around here, even more if you don't shop for the transfer fee.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2015 03:32 PM (ftVQq)

288 I hate to say it, but Drudge has some culpability with his constant linking of Alex Jones.

Alex jones actually has some good, reliable info sometimes that most others won't report on, unfortunately it gets lost in all the unreliable, conspiracy crap he posts.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 01, 2015 03:32 PM (VviqM)

289 After the shooting story, Fox should send Shep on hurricane reporting duty.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 01, 2015 03:29 PM (FsuaD)


Single seat Cessna, right into the storm wall.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (hLRSq)

290 Did they ever make the front page?
Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:31 PM (hUdMz)

_________

Maybe p.5?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (0LHZx)

291 Maybe instead of drab, dank institutions, we should design institutions to be like amusement parks.

We'd be doing psych evals to keep people *out*.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (bLnSU)

292 Only a matter of time before a Beslan takes place at one of these gun free zones. I'm shocked it hasn't already.

Prayers for those affected.

Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (zEEkm)

293 249 In fairness, closing them down was a bipartisan thing. Dems claimed it violated civil rights, Repubs didn't want to foot the bill.
Actually it was the result of a court ruling.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 03:25 PM (39g3+)



Yep. It was the Supreme Court in its 1975 ruling in O'Connor v. Donaldson, Liberal legislation (in several states, including CA) had been moving in that direction, but the Supremes enshrined de-institutionalization as the law of the land.


The "Republicans closed the mental institutions to save money" is leftist agitprop crap. Republicans had nothing to do with it. After the Supreme Court's ruling, mental hospitals had no legal basis for holding anyone against their will without a showing that they posed an imminent threat to themselves and/or others, so they had to let them go.


Adios, nutjobs! Hello, homeless people!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (oKE6c)

294 How is that Gristle Encased Head can find that and the press still have no info on the shooter? All they have reported is the shooter has been taken into custody.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (2x3L+)

295 and just like that, Russia's actions in Syria are wiped off the front page, never to be heard from again.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew

In Soviet Russia, front page wipes you.

Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff, squirming uncomfortably at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (awspb)

296
ORS 166.370
(3) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to:......

(d) A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 (Issuance of concealed handgun license) and 166.292 (Procedure for issuing) to carry a concealed handgun

Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (/uJMx)

297 What the hell - this "expert" on the live newsfeed link under the headline just said the Columbine shooters were bullied! That's some old BS that was debunked over a decade ago!

Posted by: Dang at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (2oWD2)

298 >>>On the other hand, it also means that your political adversary, or a government official, cannot have you committed against your will
-----

Love ya grammie, but that's just pure bullshit. All the gov't has to do is charge you with being a danger to yourself or others and the judge will go along with that.

DA's have never been known to fudge the truth

/////

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (+c55T)

299
**scans newsfeed

Hmmm.... no mention of the shooter yet. By ANYBODY.

A little odd for a story this old

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (8XRCm)

300 296
ORS 166.370
(3) Subsection (1) of this section does not apply to:......

(d) A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 (Issuance of concealed handgun license) and 166.292 (Procedure for issuing) to carry a concealed handgun
Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (/uJMx)

That wouldn't necessarily stop a college from having its own no guns on campus policy, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (2Ojst)

301 They said --pick an all girl school


Lie to them and say they are hostages. So you can corner them.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (mcm0N)

302 Pop: "If someone cannot be trusted to be sane without drugs then he cannot be trusted to walk around free"

That's pretty harsh, dude. I had a case of the sadz when I was 19-20. some meds had to be involved. I got better. Should I really have been put up at the happy home for the duration?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (Qr3CK)

303 294 How is that Gristle Encased Head can find that and the press still have no info on the shooter? All they have reported is the shooter has been taken into custody.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:33 PM (2x3L+)

The press prides itself on being factually accurate at times like this so it takes time.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (fWAjv)

304 But there's a real diminishing return when it's a $350-$500 pistol once shipping and FFL fees come into play.

So, that can also be a big consideration when talking about a pocket pistol.
Posted by: Chupacabra
------------------------

If you are in an area where there are competing shops.

If you are not, local selection and prices make it more difficult. I just stopped in at a local shop today. I don't think there is another gun shop for 60 miles. Prices carried ~10% premium, and selection, though good, was not great.

As an aside, while there I eyeballed some 7-30 Waters ammo. First time I had physically seen it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (Z58Xa)

305 Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (/uJMx)

----

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (8XRCm)

306 299
**scans newsfeed

Hmmm.... no mention of the shooter yet. By ANYBODY.

A little odd for a story this old

It takes time to connect to the tea party...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (hUdMz)

307 I'm sure Jeb will be all for "bipartisan sensible legislation to reduce gun violence".

So let's see, we make it illegal to own a gun if you are "mentally unstable". Seems sensible enough. Well except that in the eyes of the left, anyone who wants to own a gun is bu definition mentally unstable.

It will happen though, eventually as the RINOs join Democrats and pass "sensible bipartisan" gun control.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (0LHZx)

308 Elle

The press has it.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at October 01, 2015 03:36 PM (mcm0N)

309 From nutfucks twitter feed -


you may think the 'beta uprising' is some sort of laughable joke, but little did you know it's your corpse that we will laugh at

-from 2014

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:36 PM (fWAjv)

310 Unfortunately I have a job where I see doctors give out all types of medications like candy and if I try to stop it I become the target of the anger. I'm not allowed to carry at work but I still do.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (Z9mio)

311 >>What the hell - this "expert" on the live newsfeed link under the headline just said the Columbine shooters were bullied! That's some old BS that was debunked over a decade ago!


Everything we hear over the next 2-3 days will be 99% speculation or misreporting.
I don't even bother to watch.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (NOIQH)

312 The effed up thing about trollington's spiel is that...well, I can't entirely discount a scenario where some true believer edu-indoctrinator identifies an appropriately unstable student and primes him to commit some atrocity like this to further the cause.

I honestly can't dismiss it any longer.


This is all gross speculation, but, well...

Remember a post here about how all this talk about "microaggressions" and things actually end up turning normal healthy people into, well, psychos? I can't help but wonder what the effects are of telling some special snowflake that everything, including the language, is just a tool of oppression against unfavored people.

If someone is fed that for the entirely of one's formative years, who the hell knows what that would do to a person.....

Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (PFy0L)

313 and just like that, Russia's actions in Syria are wiped off the front page, never to be heard from again.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:31 PM (0LHZx)


I've got an idea. Why don't you become a free-lance correspondent, like Michael Totten, and go run over there and keep the world informed? Meanwhile the rest of us will try to make sure that nothing else happens anywhere else so that your singular priority can be kept front and center in the public eye and ear.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (hLRSq)

314 Moo moo

Grow the hell up and quit jacking handles.

Ace was banning people for that years ago.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (mcm0N)

315 I have a theory that these college shootings are the result of the same psychology that makes students scream at any "trigger" and run to a counselor when they see a mouse.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (39g3+)

316 Love ya grammie, but that's just pure bullshit. All
the gov't has to do is charge you with being a danger to yourself or
others and the judge will go along with that.




Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (+c55T)
=========================

You're probably right. Instead of "government agent", I should have gone with "ex-wife".

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (dFi94)

317 #300....Oregon court already overturned public university's ability toregulate. Only OR legislature can set standards. Private university's can set guidance though.

Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (/uJMx)

318 That wouldn't necessarily stop a college from having its own no guns on campus policy, though.

At some point your personal obligation to self defense has to outweigh worry over some paper on a door.

Posted by: Methos at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (ZbV+0)

319 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (9krrF)

320
It will happen though, eventually as the RINOs join Democrats and pass "sensible bipartisan" gun control.
Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (0LHZx

Pat Toomey-PA(R) just tabled some "sensible" gun control legislation.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (+c55T)

321 In structure, that argument is like saying children with trust funds often have higher IQs, so if you want your kid to be smart, establish a trust fund.
Posted by: Jay Guevara
________________

There is a direct correlation between the number of flush toilets in a town and the number of crimes committed in that town.

Just don't tell the lefties, or else they'll want to ban flush toilets "for the children".

Posted by: Furious George at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (UlJ3l)

322 314 Moo moo

Grow the hell up and quit jacking handles.

Ace was banning people for that years ago.
Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (mcm0N)

___________

What in the fuck are you babbling on about this time?

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (0LHZx)

323 Everything we hear over the next 2-3 days will be 99% speculation or misreporting.
I don't even bother to watch.
Posted by: Lizzy
-----------------

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (Z58Xa)

324 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

Don't see that here.... But I have absolutely no information...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (hUdMz)

325 I get that people did something similar to you--but they at least changed your handle up .

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (mcm0N)

326 "If someone cannot be trusted to be sane without drugs then he cannot be trusted to walk around free"


Io be sane? What does that mean? Is having clinical depression the same thing as being insane. Because if so, I've been "insane" a number of times and been on anti depressants (although not for years now) and I've been "walking around free" as a non violent person for decades.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (cgZPg)

327 My wife and I have been binge watching "Sons of Anarchy" on Netflix, so I do have some expertise on this area of the country...

Apparently, Northern California/Oregon is filled with Mexican/Black/Nazi/Biker gangs who are constantly fighting over drugs, guns and women.

Even the Mexican and Black gangs are radical, far right groups, so that explains the violence.

If more people would watch these shows, they would know this.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (Zs4uk)

328 This kind of thing used to happen once every twenty years or so in the US. Now it seems like 2-3 times per year. Something is seriously wrong.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (VrdxH)

329 Correction - not sure if that is nutfucks twitter feed as it seems to be related to the group /r9k/ at 4chan.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (fWAjv)

330 >>>> 319 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (9krrF)

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Or else the shooter is black

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (2x3L+)

331 Grow up.

It's pretty simple.

Posted by: Your friendly Danube River guide at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (mcm0N)

332 Love ya grammie, but that's just pure bullshit. All the gov't has to do is charge you with being a danger to yourself or others and the judge will go along with that.

DA's have never been known to fudge the truth

/////
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:34 PM (+c55T)

There was a recent story about a NYPD whistleblower who was arrested and locked up in a psych ward allegedly at the behest of his commanding officer. He just settled his lawsuit.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (2Ojst)

333
Im a crisis actor!
Im a crisis actor!
Watching crisis go by...
My oh my!

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:40 PM (iQIUe)

334 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?
------------------
False (ISIS) Flag?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 03:40 PM (WDySP)

335 Pop: "If someone cannot be trusted to be sane without drugs then he cannot be trusted to walk around free"



That's pretty harsh, dude. I had a case of the sadz when I was
19-20. some meds had to be involved. I got better. Should I really have
been put up at the happy home for the duration?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (Qr3CK)
=========================

I'm a hundred and eleventy - eleven years old. Most of those years I have been on an A-D cocktail. If I hadn't, I never would have cracked a hundred.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:40 PM (dFi94)

336 Lovely, 4chan again.

moot's censoring of all the #gamergate'rs did not, in fact, weed out the nuts.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 01, 2015 03:40 PM (Qr3CK)

337 I can't entirely discount a scenario where some true believer edu-indoctrinator identifies an appropriately unstable student and primes him to commit some atrocity like this to further the cause.

In one of the many menial jobs I've held, there was a guy having a particularly bad day, and his coworkers all said things to him like 'I would not put up with that [stuff] if I were you'. And he threw down his tools and quit.

Ever since that day, I always remember that when news headlines scream about some lone nut case who went off.

There was that girlfriend of some guy who killed himself and she was in trouble for not stopping him, and on record as telling him to go ahead and get it over with.

Yes, the lone nut case has free will, and chooses to do what he did, and yes there are a lot of angry people out there, and yes there are a lot of people who get a kick out of pushing people's hot buttons.

And there are a lot of people who don't know what to do about any of this. And there are a lot of people who will tell you what must be done.

And I don't trust any of them.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 01, 2015 03:41 PM (mheYt)

338 Does someone have the perp's twitter feed?

If that link to chan is correct at least we know it's not some Tea Party Rayciss.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:41 PM (4ErVI)

339 Personal anecdote re de-institutionalization: we had an incident at a neighborhood school where some nutjob showed up with a gun and a propane cylinder and tried to shoot/blow the place up. (Fortunately, a couple of Mexican gardeners tackled the a-hole before he really got going.)


Turns out he was a frequent flyer with the local cops, who knew all about him. They'd received monthly complaints from his neighbors about his bizarre behavior (too many weird stories to recount), but were helpless to do anything about it, because of the Supreme Court's ruling.


Once he fetched up at the school, however, they dropped the net on him, to the relief of all and sundry, something that everybody who knew him knew should have been done a long time ago.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:41 PM (oKE6c)

340 If someone cannot be trusted to be sane without drugs then he cannot be trusted to walk around free

Define "sane."

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:41 PM (2Ojst)

341 Are crisis actors in the Film Actors Guild?

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (oVJmc)

342 319 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (9krrF)


I'm thinking mentally unstable, sexually frustrated, infamy seeking beta male. It seems to fit the facts we have. I will withhold judgment until more is known.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (t06LC)

343
You're probably right. Instead of "government agent", I should have gone with "ex-wife".

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:37 PM (dFi94)

I've been involved in a couple of Wisconsin 72 hour holds. Talk about being behind the 8 Ball if they want to institutionalize you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (+c55T)

344
Any word on who the shooter is?

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (zOTsN)

345 319 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?
Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13

Not...yet.

But I'm not ruling it out, either.

Posted by: Dianna at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (DV/Ik)

346 Some anti-depressants and anti-psychotics work well, and do what they are supposed to. A different one can cause suicidal urges in a person previously mentally well on another med. A close relationship with your psychiatrist, and at least one family member who can help you out in a crisis, are invaluable. But ultimately, it all boils down to the individual, and his choices.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (9Y7bY)

347 I feel for the poor Families.... I'm ashamed to admit after I said a prayer for them I said a prayer that this wouldn't be a White Conservative Kid....

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (hUdMz)

348 Has the FBI released its boilerplate statement that it is certain this has no relationship to terrorism?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM (2Ojst)

349 It's interesting that SCOTUS decision to let mental patients out came out around the time "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" hit the screens. I was too young to remember, but I wonder if there was a liberal movement at the time to have mental patients release. The movie certainly makes that statement.

Posted by: Mike at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM (ISxUB)

350 344
Any word on who the shooter is?
Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (zOTsN)

_______

A tea party leader most likely

Posted by: MSM at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM (0LHZx)

351
AoShq needs a biker gang name. The Morons just doesnt cut it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM (iQIUe)

352 319 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 03:38 PM (9krrF)

- - - - -

Doubt it.

No Jihadi would warn people on 4chan before doing something like this.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (9VLhN)

353 Any word on who the shooter is?
Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (zOTsN)

----

Not yet..... not even speculation or outright lies.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (8XRCm)

354 It would help if doctors weren't so butt-ass ignorant and in denial about side effects. I'll bet most reports aren't even passed on to the pharmaceutical companies, which is part of the reason (aside from desperate fear of lawsuits) everyone is dragging their feet on these problems.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (bLnSU)

I deal with severe pain from an injury I received in combat. Because of all of the over prescription of meds during the recent conflicts (that's what I contend anyway), the doctors changed up my prescription to a 'milder' narcotic. I had terrible side effects, lack of sleep, viciously angry dreams... The doctors said that they like the new pain drug and wouldn't change it back. So I don't take it and I live with the pain.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (BZAd3)

355 That's pretty harsh, dude. I had a case of the sadz when I was 19-20. some meds had to be involved. I got better.

Depressives are generally just risks to themselves. They pose no great threat to society ... until one puts them on these new drug regimes.

Should I really have been put up at the happy home for the duration?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 01, 2015 03:35 PM (Qr3CK)


If you had been on these sorts of anti-depressants then it should have been done under strict supervision, whether that involved an asylum or someone at home taking that responsibility along with a rigorous outpatient regime.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (zc3Db)

356 Jackass on CNN... 30 round clips ....
Update: CNN says shooter in late 20's, (no race mentioned), made threat online yesterday.....

Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (zEEkm)

357 Has the FBI released its boilerplate statement that it is certain this has no relationship to terrorism?
Posted by: Insomniac

Not until they've turned over every leaf to connect it to right-wing domestic terrorism.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (awspb)

358 Any word on who the shooter is?

We're pretty sure it's Sarah Palin.

Posted by: The MSM at October 01, 2015 03:45 PM (oVJmc)

359 Are crisis actors in the Film Actors Guild?



I thought you had to have lines to say to get your FAG Card?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:45 PM (D5XRv)

360 Twitter tells me people on 4 chan are saying is was another mens rights gamer gate person who idolized Roger Elliot, the son of the Hollywood type who went postal

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:45 PM (zOTsN)

361 There seems to be a lot of men who have issues with women because they've been rejected so many times and go on a shooting spree out of vengeance

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:45 PM (2x3L+)

362 353 Any word on who the shooter is?
Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:42 PM (zOTsN)
----
Not yet..... not even speculation or outright lies.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (8XRCm)

That is just so odd and unlike the press.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:45 PM (+c55T)

363 Once he fetched up at the school, however, they dropped the net on him, to the relief of all and sundry, something that everybody who knew him knew should have been done a long time ago.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:41 PM (oKE6c)

Remember Pat Sherrill?
He was the nut who helped coin the phrase going postal after he shot up the post office he worked at in Oklahoma back in the 1980s.I read an article about him a few years ago and people knew for a long time he wasn't right in the head. He used to do things like mow his lawn at midnight, shit like that.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (4ErVI)

364 Has there been a pajama boy spree killer before? I can't recall one. Surprised one could work out the logistics to completion, honestly.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (WDySP)

365 328 This kind of thing used to happen once every twenty years or so in the US. Now it seems like 2-3 times per year. Something is seriously wrong.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (VrdxH)

Its almost if that rise coincides with the creation of some new kind of attention that provides wall to wall coverage of the most intimate details of such nefarious actors and almost glamorizes their actions to other similarly situated and disturbed individuals who long to be memorialized in infamy....

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (t06LC)

366 If you had been on these sorts of anti-depressants then it should have
been done under strict supervision, whether that involved an asylum......


======================




Aaaand I think I'll go see if the tubs need scouring. Or something.

Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (dFi94)

367 351


AoShq needs a biker gang name. The Morons just doesnt cut it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM (iQIUe)


Los Morons el Diablo.

Posted by: Couch Fucker at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (1DH1V)

368 Has the FBI released its boilerplate statement that it is certain this has no relationship to terrorism?
Posted by: Insomniac
---------------------

If the shooter has ever so much as looked at a Tea Party site, then 'terrorist'. Because, 'Hate Group'. SPLC says so.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (Z58Xa)

369 I'm ashamed to admit I first thought of this in a cynical manner, about how it would be reflected in the political nature of the day.

Posted by: Max Power at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (q177U)

370 338 Does someone have the perp's twitter feed?

If that link to chan is correct at least we know it's not some Tea Party Rayciss.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:41 PM (4ErVI)

Not the personal one but this is the one affiliated with that 4chan page.


Fucking loony sons of bitch's

And they really don't like women and 'normies.'

http://tinyurl.com/jvkwjzf


Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (fWAjv)

371 >>But ultimately, it all boils down to the individual, and his choices.


Yeah, read a long interview w/the father of the CT shooter and that kid was messed up for years. His mom tried everything, kept getting bounced around (when one thing didn't work, like mainstreaming at school). On top of that the kid was, in a way, terrorizing his mom with his massive mood swings, constant demands, and need for 24x7 oversight. Sounded like she was completely exhausted, isolated and defeated.

Not the case with every shooter, obviously, but some people are just broken to the point that nothing fixes/stabilizes them.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 03:47 PM (NOIQH)

372 Instead of banning guns maybe We should ban violent video games..... That would work just as well.....

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:47 PM (hUdMz)

373
El Horde

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 03:47 PM (Z58Xa)

374 I thought trigger warnings were required on all campus. What happened?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 01, 2015 03:47 PM (oDCMR)

375 Update: CNN says shooter in late 20's, (no race mentioned), made threat online yesterday.....

4chan guy said he was 28. Maybe that thread is legit, or maybe CNN is taking it at face value.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, whut is a proud Nitwit Lion at October 01, 2015 03:47 PM (JtwS4)

376 Germany Evicting Longtime Residents from Municipal-Owned Apartments to Make Room for Immigrants

Officially the most insane thing I've ever read in my short, miserable life.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 01, 2015 03:47 PM (JmGFJ)

377 ... calling bullshit on the rejected men theory. I haven't shot anybody.

Posted by: Irony at October 01, 2015 03:48 PM (9miVc)

378 This kind of thing used to happen once every twenty years or so in the US. Now it seems like 2-3 times per year. Something is seriously wrong.

Posted by: despair (now with 50% less hope) at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (VrdxH)


Violent crime trends tend to be long sweeps over many years, and most of the last 20 have been a downward trend. There's been a rush of urban rioting and attacks on police in the last year.

FBI national stats are available, though probably not complete after 2013 (they take a year or two to filter in and be cataloged). I think you will find your perception is media-driven.

Not to say it isn't awful every time it happens.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:48 PM (bLnSU)

379 Aaaand I think I'll go see if the tubs need scouring. Or something.
Posted by: grammie winger, waiting for the trumpets at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (dFi9

Hold their head under water for awhile grammie. A cheesehead water boarding.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:48 PM (+c55T)

380 368 Has the FBI released its boilerplate statement that it is certain this has no relationship to terrorism?
Posted by: Insomniac
---------------------

If the shooter has ever so much as looked at a Tea Party site, then 'terrorist'. Because, 'Hate Group'. SPLC says so.
Posted by: Chris Matthews at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (Z58Xa)

Or read the Constitution of the United States in a non-ironic fashion once.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:48 PM (2Ojst)

381 It's easy to say lock up everyone who isn't sane. Sounds great, crazy people are locked away. Except when the definition of "crazy" is expanded to mean anyone who disagrees with the govt.

Careful what you ask for.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:48 PM (0LHZx)

382 "I deal with severe pain from an injury I received in combat. Because of
all of the over prescription of meds during the recent conflicts (that's
what I contend anyway), the doctors changed up my prescription to a
'milder' narcotic. I had terrible side effects, lack of sleep,
viciously angry dreams... The doctors said that they like the new pain
drug and wouldn't change it back. So I don't take it and I live with the
pain."

I'm so sorry for your pain, and pray you find healing. Thank you for your service to our great nation.

Posted by: Mike at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (ISxUB)

383 328 This kind of thing used to happen once every twenty years or so in the US. Now it seems like 2-3 times per year. Something is seriously wrong.

I know no one wants to hear it, but, most of these shootings are done by white males who've probably listened their whole lives to how their white maleness is everything that's wrong in the world, which probably led to isolation, which probably led to depression, which probably led to over medication and here we are, and the demonization of white males really began in earnest in the past 2 decades.

Posted by: All Teh Meh at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (VviqM)

384 Los Morons el Diablo.

Posted by: Couch Fucker at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (1DH1V)




It's Spanish for like, 'A Regal Fighting Chicken.'

Posted by: Ricky Bobby at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (nL0sw)

385 Dept of Homeland Security is allegedly there

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (zOTsN)

386 354 It would help if doctors weren't so butt-ass ignorant and in denial about side effects. I'll bet most reports aren't even passed on to the pharmaceutical companies, which is part of the reason (aside from desperate fear of lawsuits) everyone is dragging their feet on these problems.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:21 PM (bLnSU)



Side effects and withdrawals. Getting off Wellbutrin almost put me at the top or bottom of a clock tower.

Online forums were on fire with how bad the stuff was. My shrink had no idea.

Posted by: A dot at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (vgIRn)

387 373
El Horde
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Abdel al-horde

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (+c55T)

388 Germany Evicting Longtime Residents from Municipal-Owned Apartments to Make Room for Immigrants

Officially the most insane thing I've ever read in my short, miserable life.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Don't worry, I'll top it before this is over.

Posted by: Angela Merkel at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (awspb)

389 OT but a South Carolina Police officer was shot and killed yesterday by who I assume was an aspiring rap artist.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (Z9mio)

390 361
There seems to be a lot of men who have issues with women because they've been rejected so many times and go on a shooting spree out of vengeance

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:45 PM (2x3L+)


Whatever happened to just masturbating?

Posted by: Couch Fucker at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (1DH1V)

391 381 It's easy to say lock up everyone who isn't sane. Sounds great, crazy people are locked away. Except when the definition of "crazy" is expanded to mean anyone who disagrees with the govt.

Kind of like Dinesh D'Douza?

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (hUdMz)

392 Off couch creeper sock.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (1DH1V)

393 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (fWAjv)

Back in high school, we used to call them "nerds."

Also, I'd say this is a side effect to the strict anti-bullying laws.

Because back in my day, you'd kick the nerds ass if he got too uppity and he'd realize he needs to chill.

When someone who needs to get their ass kicked walks around for their entire life without getting their ass kicked, they end up going crazy.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (AkOaV)

394 AoShq needs a biker gang name. The Morons just doesnt cut it.

You mean aside from "Ace's Horde"?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (9krrF)

395 CNN is repeating4chan gossip

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (zOTsN)

396 The fuck is a "normie"?

Posted by: Me. Healthy Penis at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (LYCUN)

397 Ugh. Lots of discussion on Fox Business about the need for more protection on college campuses in the form of more jobs for cops. Nary a word about people growing the fuck up and defending themselves.

Posted by: Methos at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (ZbV+0)

398 Los Morons el Diablo.

Posted by: Couch Fucker at October 01, 2015 03:46 PM (1DH1V)


That's great.

For $395.00, you can buy the leather "colors" for Los Morons el Diablo in the AoSHQ gift shop, along with hats, t-shirts, coffee cups, etc...


Oh, that's right.

There is no AoSHQ gift shop.

Never mind.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (Zs4uk)

399 385 Dept of Homeland Security is allegedly there
Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (zOTsN

I know that makes me feel so secure now, how about you?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (+c55T)

400 Update: CNN says shooter in late 20's, (no race mentioned), made threat online yesterday.....Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (zEEkm)


Late 20's attending Community college? I know common core is bad, but that's like spending six years In 11th grade. Or he just walks on campus with homicidal intent?

I know without knowing what sex the shooter is.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (sI4OA)

401 So space robots.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (lKSyl)

402 It's easy to say lock up everyone who isn't sane. Sounds great, crazy people are locked away. Except when the definition of "crazy" is expanded to mean anyone who disagrees with the govt.

See, e.g., Stalin.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (2Ojst)

403 Depressives are generally just risks to themselves. They pose no great threat to society ... until one puts them on these new drug regimes.

Like coffee for a drunk. You just get a wide-awake drunk.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 03:51 PM (evdj2)

404 Posted by: A dot at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (vgIRn)

Friend said the same thing about klonopin.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 01, 2015 03:51 PM (AkOaV)

405 FBI national stats are available, though
probably not complete after 2013 (they take a year or two to filter in
and be cataloged). I think you will find your perception is
media-driven.



Not to say it isn't awful every time it happens.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:48 PM (bLnSU)


Yeah, look at how we got smeared a few summers ago.

Posted by: Sharks at October 01, 2015 03:51 PM (oKE6c)

406 I wouldnt take this 4 chan thing seriously yet

just cause the nets repeat it doesnt make it true

48 hour rule in effect

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:51 PM (zOTsN)

407 Something strange I'm finding as I make new friends (finding new, real, friends in middle age is a blessing), is that they almost all carry. And I didn't find that out until we'd been on many man-dates.

We don't share other politics, and are in the bluest of blue cities, and yet somehow we all gravitate towards each other.

I just find it funny.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 03:51 PM (XiVKO)

408 396 The fuck is a "normie"?
Posted by: Me. Healthy Penis at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (LYCUN)

Fat guy from Cheers.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:51 PM (0LHZx)

409 >>>> Municipal-Owned Apartments to Make Room for Immigrants

--------

Great. Germany is starting to go Nazi again except this time toward their own native people. They're confiscating property and giving it away to their precious "Syrians." This is unbelievable and will not end well.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:51 PM (2x3L+)

410 Up: THE HORDE
Down: "Moron Labe"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 01, 2015 03:52 PM (JmGFJ)

411 406 I wouldnt take this 4 chan thing seriously yet

just cause the nets repeat it doesnt make it true

48 hour rule in effect

A wise idea...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 03:52 PM (hUdMz)

412 Presdent Obama should go there and give a speech to fix this problem. Hopefully no Gays or Lesbian Students were hurt or killed. That would be a real tradjety.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 01, 2015 03:52 PM (EIFYf)

413 396 The fuck is a "normie"?
Posted by: Me. Healthy Penis at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (LYCUN)

"normal person."

Luckily, I don't think too many of us in horde with qualify.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 01, 2015 03:52 PM (AkOaV)

414 385 Dept of Homeland Security is allegedly there

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (zOTsN



If the shooter is a Muslim, they're there with the neuralizers like in "Men in Black."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 01, 2015 03:52 PM (oKE6c)

415 375, Agreed. Who knew 4chan was AP stylebook approved....

Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 03:52 PM (zEEkm)

416 Late 20's attending Community college? I know common core is bad, but that's like spending six years In 11th grade. Or he just walks on campus with homicidal intent?

I know without knowing what sex the shooter is.

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (sI4OA)

When I was in community college I remember a guy there who was like a full time student and had been as long as anyone could remember. He was like 40, always wore a BDU hat and combat boots despite never being in the military. He had a rep as being... a bit different.

Posted by: Jollyroger at October 01, 2015 03:53 PM (t06LC)

417 Late 20's attending Community college?


If it's the 4chan guy he said he doesn't go to college. Just wanted to shoot one up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, whut is a proud Nitwit Lion at October 01, 2015 03:53 PM (JtwS4)

418 Don't worry about it grammie. You're a hell of a lot saner than I am ... and I don't even take any meds.

Ooh ... Probably should have kept that on the down-low.

Posted by: Irony at October 01, 2015 03:53 PM (9miVc)

419 I read an article about him a few years ago and people knew for a long time he wasn't right in the head.

He used to do things like mow his lawn at midnight,



Only time in Oklahoma and Texas that the temp drops below 90 during July and August.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 03:53 PM (D5XRv)

420 the nets also told us Clock Boy was a genius who invented stuff

the nets dont have anything so they are filling the void with 4 chan gossip

wait

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:53 PM (zOTsN)

421 28 year old at community college. So basically total loser.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:54 PM (0LHZx)

422 According to UD normie is either someone with no mental disorders or the opposite of a hipster.

Posted by: Me. Healthy Penis at October 01, 2015 03:54 PM (LYCUN)

423 399 385 Dept of Homeland Security is allegedly there
Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:49 PM (zOTsN

$4 Million "Command Center" bus no doubt en route from Portland.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (WDySP)

424 The fuq? Now they're saying the shooter is dead

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (2x3L+)

425 The doctors said that they like the new pain drug and wouldn't change it back. So I don't take it and I live with the pain.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (BZAd3)


Thank you for your service, and I hope you find another solution for the pain. Pain sucks.

I've had about 18 cardiologists by now. Most of them were not very good. The best one died of cancer.

Almost all of them handwave side effects.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (bLnSU)

426

remember that native american who shot up the high school cafeteria?

killing his cousins and best friends?

we dont hear very much about that. His motive was he didnt want to live anymore but he wanted his friends with him in that happy hunting ground in the sky. Seriously. He wanted company in the hereafter

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (zOTsN)

427
My Dads name is Norman.

I called him Normie.

.



.



Once.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (8XRCm)

428 The closest thing to a gift shop the site has is The Barrel.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (4ErVI)

429 I would worry that taking medication would get my carry permit pulled. Or so the voices say.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (evdj2)

430 Notice this shit never happens at private schools, always at public ones. Not sure what that means if anything.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (0LHZx)

431 28 year old at a CC could be a vet who went in after high school, got out and took some classes

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (zOTsN)

432 Our society folks...


http://tinyurl.com/n9mf9yq

(4chan r9k thread)

You fucking dumb fucks that actually take 4chan seriously just ruined the whole site. We're going to get shut down you fucking retards because one autistic fuck head who took /49k/ seriously went and shot up a community college.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (fWAjv)

433 382 "I deal with severe pain from an injury I received in combat. Because of
all of the over prescription of meds during the recent conflicts (that's
what I contend anyway), the doctors changed up my prescription to a
'milder' narcotic. I had terrible side effects, lack of sleep,
viciously angry dreams... The doctors said that they like the new pain
drug and wouldn't change it back. So I don't take it and I live with the
pain."

Don't give up with your doctor. Their are a lot of different pain medications . If the one they are now prescribing has those side effects insist on trying something else.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (Z9mio)

434 The closest thing to a gift shop the site has is The Barrel.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis
--------------------

Gifts that keep on giving.
*scratches underarm*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 03:57 PM (Z58Xa)

435 Late 20's attending Community college?

Posted by: se pa moron at October 01, 2015 03:50 PM (sI4OA)




Could be a faculty member.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 03:57 PM (nL0sw)

436 The closest thing to a gift shop the site has is The Barrel.


Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (4ErVI)


It isn't a Gift Shop per se....

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (hLRSq)

437 AoShq needs a biker gang name. The Morons just doesnt cut it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM


Ace's Flaming Skulls

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (KrAjA)

438 Just for the record...


I would be willing to finance the building of a web store, inventory and operation of a AoSHQ gift shop, plus pay a generous percentage to Ace in exchange for rights to merchandizing the name and sayings flowing from the blog.

Just in case someone needs and extra income.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (Zs4uk)

439 409: "They're confiscating property and giving it away to their precious "Syrians"

Not quite. the landlord (the state) is evicting current tenants in favor of housing their preferred tenants.

Kind of like a landlord in NYC kicking out their rent stabilized tenant in favor of one who pays full rate.

Except instead of more money, the German govt is going for the "feelz".

Posted by: Azenogoth (Freedom or Fire) at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (4nmNX)

440 431 28 year old at a CC could be a vet who went in after high school, got out and took some classes
Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (zOTsN)

_______

I told you assholes ex-military were terrorists.

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (0LHZx)

441 How did the shooter die?

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (2x3L+)

442 could be a spectrum kid

or a vet

or a faculty member

or not even a student


its an open campus

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (zOTsN)

443 It is odd to imagine that one has a right to their particular government-provided apartment.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (evdj2)

444
The Oregon shooter must be a little nutty.


Posted by: Ted Kaczynski at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (OiFtZ)

445 The doctors said that they like the new pain drug and wouldn't change it back. So I don't take it and I live with the pain.

Posted by: Semper In Stercus at October 01, 2015 03:44 PM (BZAd3)


Oh, and I forgot to say, tell your doctors that if they like that crap so much *they* can take it, you want something else.

Sometimes you have to (metaphorically) slap them around a bit, they can be stubborn and not very smart.

Call them mules.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (bLnSU)

446 There's no indication whether the shooter was actually enrolled in the community college or just picked it as a target. There are also plenty of legitimate reasons why someone who isn't in the traditional 18-22 age range could be enrolled in a community college. It's a silly tangent anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (2Ojst)

447 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (fWAjv)

Your tinyurl links back to this thread.

Posted by: ConservativeMonster at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (0NdlF)

448 >>>
319 Anyone else smelling an attempt to cover up Sudden Jihadi Syndrome?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13



Not...yet.



But I'm not ruling it out, either.
.
.
.I am putting the 24 rule in place, but something is fishy here. In past shootings the MSM has speculated all over the place about motives and identity, i.e. White Southern Baptist Racist, etc by this point in time. Not a single peep from them so far that I have seen which is downright odd.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (iONHu)

449 30 round clips? Wonder if I can get those for my Garands?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (0x/TW)

450
How did the shooter die?

--

I would hope slowly and painfully from a gunshot, preferably not self-inflicted

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (oEDuY)

451 How did the shooter die?
Posted by: L, Elle
-----------------

Angry, is my guess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (Z58Xa)

452 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 03:56 PM (fWAjv)

It is times like these that I am glad I have no idea what 4chan is.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Turbo-Charge What Agitates You at the Outrage Outlet! at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (hLRSq)

453 443 It is odd to imagine that one has a right to their particular government-provided apartment.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (evdj2)

__________

No different here. Section 8 is basically a constitutional right now.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (0LHZx)

454 >>We're going to get shut down you fucking retards because one autistic fuck head who took /49k/ seriously went and shot up a community college


Yeah, that would be the worst thing to some out of this - the site goes down, not the 15 (or whatever) people killed.
*shakes head*

Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (NOIQH)

455 437 AoShq needs a biker gang name. The Morons just doesnt cut it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM

Ace's Flaming Skulls
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (KrAjA)

Way too ghey.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (2Ojst)

456 We need a hat with an Ace of Spades HQ patch, or a velcro patch for our BDUs so when we go off, people will know who we are.

It would make meet ups much easier, and impromptu rather than organized and subject to infiltration. Of course we would need some kind of secret challenge and response because we can't really trust just anyone with the patch.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (mheYt)

457 Goes by Elias/Alias on 4chan.


When the thread was posted many of us were very confused. Elias (We typically call him "alias" on this board) was a very popular member of our community and we were all very upset to hear him speaking like this.

A lot of people joked but it was obviously in jest. I was told by another poster that he had recieved contact from him and the both of us spoke with him in a private chatroom. He said he was tired and mainly that he was frustrated with a specific girl. We weren't sure if he was serious (it is very common for people to fabricate stories here, but we generally tend to be trusting despite what others say) but we still addressed it seriously and tried to speak to him rationally. He kept saying 'that blonde c*** is going to get it' and went on and on about how he disliked a particular blonde girl.

i'm still in shock that he would do this. i hope everything goes well for you steve i've been crying since i heard it was him. Why would he do this??



*all taken with a huge grain of salt.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (fWAjv)

458 426




remember that native american who shot up the high school cafeteria?



killing his cousins and best friends?



we dont hear very much about that. His motive was he didnt want to live anymore but he wanted his friends with him in that happy hunting ground in the sky. Seriously. He wanted company in the hereafter

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (zOTsN)


See 182. Father convicted on gun charges.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (1DH1V)

459 Up: THE HORDE

Down: "Moron Labe"
___________________
That's good. Very good. But, it needs "East St Louis" on there somewhere.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (xq1UY)

460

I wouldn't count 4 chan as a reliable source on this, or assume the shooter is even a student

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (zOTsN)

461 >>> My wife and I have been binge watching "Sons of Anarchy" on Netflix, so I do have some expertise on this area of the country... Apparently, Northern California/Oregon is filled with Mexican/Black/Nazi/Biker gangs who are constantly fighting over drugs, guns and women...If more people would watch these shows, they would know this.
Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 03:39 PM (Zs4uk)

Heh. Sorta like how apparently, according to the new show Quantico, Mormon recruits will secretly be evil basketcases that get underage girls pregnant while on their missions, then take them to abortion clinics, also while still on said mission. As we do, all the flippin' time. All the abortions and underage sex, is the Mormon motto.

http://www.sltrib.com/home/2998665-155/spoiler-alert-heres-the-mormon

Posted by: LizLem at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (hvf9s)

462 There are also plenty of legitimate reasons why someone who isn't in the traditional 18-22 age range could be enrolled in a community college. It's a silly tangent anyway.

___________
Yep- I went to CC in my 20's and the average age in some classes was >30. Lots of people put off college.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (WDySP)

463 Guy in his 20's....CNN keeps repeating it. Roseburg PD saying he's dead.

Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (zEEkm)

464 A student who saw the guy said that no one knew who this guy was. She was shot twice by him

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (2x3L+)

465 428
The closest thing to a gift shop the site has is The Barrel.


Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 01, 2015 03:55 PM (4ErVI)


You don't take home souvenirs from the barrel. Unless you collect herpes scabs and the like.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (1DH1V)

466 moot's censoring of all the #gamergate'rs did not, in fact, weed out the nuts.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at October 01, 2015 03:40 PM (Qr3CK)

If it was only the Gamergate side being censored I suspect it did the opposite of weeding *out* the nuts.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (GDulk)

467 It is odd to imagine that one has a right to their particular government-provided apartment.



As long as you are holding up your end of the agreement, why not?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (D5XRv)

468 Seems like every jagoff on YouTube has their own patch, an AoS one doesn't seem too unreasonable.

Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (XiVKO)

469 AoShq needs a biker gang name. The Morons just doesnt cut it.

Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at October 01, 2015 03:43 PM

Ace's Flaming Skulls

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2015 03:58 PM (KrAjA)




Just be sure that the colors/logo aren't overly similar to the Combat Vets Association:
https://www.combatvet.org/

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 04:01 PM (nL0sw)

470 After the Boston Marathon bombing, we didn't hear a peep about the perpetrators identity either. Even after they were captured.

I'm starting to think it's the same reason we're not hearing anything today.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 04:02 PM (0LHZx)

471 451 How did the shooter die?
Posted by: L, Elle
-----------------

Angry, is my guess.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (Z58Xa)

- - - - - -

Scared shitless, is my guess.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 01, 2015 04:02 PM (9VLhN)

472 468 Seems like every jagoff on YouTube has their own patch, an AoS one doesn't seem too unreasonable.
----------------
T-9 was selling a few maybe a year ago, but I think someone ran him off.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 04:03 PM (WDySP)

473 The guy went to one classroom only and stayed there and shot up the room. He must have been targeting someone or some people in that specific classroom.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:03 PM (2x3L+)

474 >>Sorta like how apparently, according to the new show Quantico, Mormon recruits will secretly be evil basketcases that get underage girls pregnant while on their missions, then take them to abortion clinics, also while still on said mission.


Seriously?

I saw ads for the show and I knew that the "one traitor among the recruits!!" would be a white male, probably Christian, Southern.....

Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 04:03 PM (NOIQH)

475 The fuq? Now they're saying the shooter is dead

-
So if I understand this correctly an unknown numbr of people may be dead or alive.

Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 01, 2015 04:04 PM (lKSyl)

476
"The fuq? Now they're saying the shooter is dead"

Right after he shot himself in the back 5 times.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 01, 2015 04:04 PM (0x/TW)

477 30 round clips? Wonder if I can get those for my Garands?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 01, 2015 03:59 PM (0x/TW)
HA! Me too. Maybe I can find a 100rd one like that Surefire Clip I have for my KAC.

Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 04:04 PM (zEEkm)

478 local radio interviews indicate shooter was current/former student in late teens/early 20's. Appears most of the shooting was confined to a single classroom, unconfirmed if any shots fired at other locations of the CC.

Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 04:04 PM (/uJMx)

479 If there was an AoS biker gang name, it'd be The Morons then tell everyone "oh no, you can't call us that, only we can call each other that!".


Posted by: Chupacabra at October 01, 2015 04:04 PM (XiVKO)

480
The guy went to one classroom only and stayed there and shot up the room. He must have been targeting someone or some people in that specific classroom.

--

He hates whiteboards!

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 01, 2015 04:05 PM (oEDuY)

481 Of course we would need some kind of secret challenge and response because we can't really trust just anyone with the patch.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (mheYt)


How about:

"Hey, fuck head"

to which the challenged would answer:

"Who, me?"

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 04:05 PM (Zs4uk)

482 473 The guy went to one classroom only and stayed there and shot up the room. He must have been targeting someone or some people in that specific classroom.
Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:03 PM (2x3L+)

Actually that was one of the recommendations given by the 4chan commenters who were encouraging him to do it.

Posted by: Max Rockatansky at October 01, 2015 04:05 PM (Z9mio)

483 Right after he shot himself in the back 5 times.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale

Did he do it with 2 different caliber guns and hide one afterwards too?

Posted by: Zombie Vince Foster at October 01, 2015 04:05 PM (awspb)

484 Seems like every jagoff on YouTube has their own patch, an AoS one doesn't seem too unreasonable.

We should do special patches...an Alextopia patch, a Team Longbow patch, a Val-U-Rite patch...

Keeps the outsiders guessing, but we'll know.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (9krrF)

485 99.9 percent sure the 4chan shit is legit.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (fWAjv)

486

hoo boy

wonder what class was being taught and if it ended in "studies"

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (zOTsN)

487 The coverage of this is bizarre. They have released where victims were shot (stomach, shoulder etc) but nothing about the shooter and I'm not even sure we have the right number of dead and wounded. They keep changing that too

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (2x3L+)

488 Every network crime show's bible says all southerners must be ignorant, bigoted, insanely religious and speak with an atrocious accent.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (ppaKI)

489 T-9 was selling a few maybe a year ago, but I think someone ran him off.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 01, 2015 04:03 PM (WDySP)




Yeah, he had some made up and sold them at cost. Right before he was run off he had a new design that he was going to distribute. I've got a couple of the originals.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (nL0sw)

490 I'd bet $50 the shooter ain't white, based on the lag in identifying race.

Posted by: Irony at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (9miVc)

491 How about: "Hey, fuck head" to which the challenged would answer: "Who, me?"
Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 04:05 PM (Zs4uk) I laughed. Thanks! Needed that at this moment.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at October 01, 2015 04:07 PM (22uju)

492 451 How did the shooter die?

Posted by: L, Elle

-----------------



Angry, is my guess.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (Z58Xa)



- - - - - -



Scared shitless, is my guess.


Sadly, 20+yrs too late.

Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 04:07 PM (zEEkm)

493 >>> Seriously? I saw ads for the show and I knew that the "one traitor among the recruits!!" would be a white male, probably Christian, Southern.....
Posted by: Lizzy at October 01, 2015 04:03 PM (NOIQH)

I think the traitor is still at large, this was just a subplot. Was not planning on watching before, now definitely will not. Pro tip to Hollywood writers: watching the Book of Mormon musical 5 times does NOT count as actual research into Mormons and the mission culture. Just sayin'.

Posted by: LizLem at October 01, 2015 04:07 PM (hvf9s)

494 If there was an AoS biker gang name, it'd be The Morons then tell everyone "oh no, you can't call us that, only we can call each other that!".
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So, Morons With Attitude.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:07 PM (Z58Xa)

495
CNN reporting not one class room, but two different buildings where he shot people


Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 04:07 PM (zOTsN)

496 Every network crime show's bible says all southerners must be ignorant, bigoted, insanely religious and speak with an atrocious accent.
Posted by: Citizen Cake

And every murderer must first appear on camera wearing a comically oversized cross.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 01, 2015 04:08 PM (awspb)

497 I wouldn't count 4 chan as a reliable source on this, or assume the shooter is even a student

Posted by: ThunderB at October 01, 2015 04:00 PM (zOTsN)

I don't know. The way there are talking there makes me think it's true.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 04:08 PM (fWAjv)

498 they're

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at October 01, 2015 04:08 PM (fWAjv)

499 IIRC, isn't Oregon one of the lefty states that banned magazine holding more than 10 cartridges? Is so, the shooter, if not dead, is in real trouble.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (22uju)

500 If there was an AoS biker gang name, it'd be The
Morons then tell everyone "oh no, you can't call us that, only we can
call each other that!".

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So, Morons With Attitude.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:07 PM


The Barrel Riders

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (KrAjA)

501 New AoS biker name - "Hells Morons". Even angels ain't bad enough...

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (FgSae)

502 Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 04:05 PM (Zs4uk)

Ace has a long mustache!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (ftVQq)

503 We can have chapters symbols too. AZ could be a burning skull with the words "Dry Heat" underneath.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (uhftQ)

504
We should do special patches...an Alextopia patch, a Team Longbow patch, a Val-U-Rite patch...

Keeps the outsiders guessing, but we'll know.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, down with Eph 6:12-13 at October 01, 2015 04:06 PM (9krrF)


All the other blogs have nice things. We could too.

Just convince the head jagoff to pull the trigger.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (Zs4uk)

505 496 Every network crime show's bible says all southerners must be ignorant, bigoted, insanely religious and speak with an atrocious accent.
Posted by: Citizen Cake

And every murderer must first appear on camera wearing a comically oversized cross.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 01, 2015 04:08 PM (awspb)

_________

And every Muslim is a victim of hate, never a terrorist.

Posted by: Monsieur Mew Mew at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (0LHZx)

506 We can have chapters symbols too. AZ could be a burning skull with the words "Dry Heat" underneath.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale



Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 04:11 PM (D5XRv)

507 I really hope this isn't an autistic or aspy guy.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:12 PM (oBghv)

508 It was a 30 clip round magazine ammo bandolier case holder bucket.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 04:12 PM (bLnSU)

509 The Barrel Riders

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (KrAjA)




Seems like that would cover the 'Ettes:

https://youtu.be/21yOGIqsfmc

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 04:12 PM (nL0sw)

510 ...and if anyone asks you about your hat/patch, just say, no I'm a fan of motorhead.

Posted by: Hayfield Volkovski at October 01, 2015 04:12 PM (mheYt)

511 494
If there was an AoS biker gang name, it'd be The Morons then tell everyone "oh no, you can't call us that, only we can call each other that!".

--------------



So, Morons With Attitude.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:07 PM (Z58Xa)


Sons of Patriarchy.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 01, 2015 04:12 PM (1DH1V)

512 We can have chapters symbols too. AZ could be a burning skull with the words "Dry Heat" underneath.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM


Well played, sir...well played.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (KrAjA)

513 We can have chapters symbols too. AZ could be a burning skull with the words "Dry Heat" underneath.
Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale



TX could be the state flag with, "You Wish U Were" underneath.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (D5XRv)

514 I really hope this isn't an autistic or aspy guy.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:12 PM (oBghv)


I really hope it's all a huge lie and no one got killed at all.

You have a better chance than I do, I think.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (bLnSU)

515 Want to get Hillary to do the podcast?


Offer her an AoSHQ logo coffee mug and baseball cap.

The bitch can't pass up free shit.

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (Zs4uk)

516 502
Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 04:05 PM (Zs4uk)

Ace has a long mustache!


Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2015 04:10 PM (ftVQq)


It's a merkin.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (1DH1V)

517 Who ran off T9? Or did he get banned? He was easy to rile up.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (oBghv)

518 It was a 30 clip round magazine ammo bandolier case holder bucket.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith

It had MULTIPLE shoulder things that go up. And a tactical flash-supressing silencer.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (awspb)

519 Clubhouse could be "the Barrell" and pudding parties every weekend.

Posted by: 1bulwetweft at October 01, 2015 04:14 PM (B2E6s)

520 As awful as this particular type of madness is.....it could be soooo much worse.

The School- C.J. Chivers

Posted by: HillbillyKing at October 01, 2015 04:14 PM (zEEkm)

521 my prediction is a pale white dude, with lifeless black eyes and an empty stare. All of these losers seem to have that look.

Posted by: spypeach at October 01, 2015 04:15 PM (KTiWT)

522 It's a merkin.


Posted by: rebel flounder at October 01, 2015 04:13 PM (1DH1V)

And... that's the correct response!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2015 04:15 PM (ftVQq)

523 Fox just has one person calling in after another only to say that they don't know anything. Thanks. That's helpful.

Posted by: L, Elle at October 01, 2015 04:15 PM (oBghv)

524
"TX could be the state flag with, "You Wish U Were" underneath. "

A lot of unmined potential.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at October 01, 2015 04:16 PM (uhftQ)

525 In order for Hillary to do a podcast they'd have to pay her $250,000.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2015 04:16 PM (cgZPg)

526 I don't know how many

Linc Chaffee - Fuck Yeah!

T shirts to put in stock initially. Anyone want to start the pre-orders?

Posted by: jwest at October 01, 2015 04:17 PM (Zs4uk)

527 Who ran off T9? Or did he get banned? He was easy to rile up.
Posted by: L, Elle



Last I heard, he'd got sent to the sandbox across the pond.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 04:17 PM (D5XRv)

528 Pope Frank from yesterday on the scourge of gun violence:

"If you trust only men you have lost," he told the young people in a long, rambling talk about war, trust and politics after putting aside his prepared address.

"It makes me think of . . . people, managers, businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons. That leads to a bit a distrust, doesn't it?" he said to applause.


He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries, saying "duplicity is the currency of today . . . they say one thing and do another."



Posted by: The Great White Snark at October 01, 2015 04:17 PM (lKSyl)

529 my prediction is a pale white dude, with lifeless black eyes and an empty stare. All of these losers seem to have that look.

Posted by: spypeach at October 01, 2015 04:15 PM (KTiWT)




If it is indeed associated with 4chan, he probably looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/qgof86a

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 04:17 PM (nL0sw)

530
Fox just has one person calling in after another only to say that they don't know anything. Thanks. That's helpful.

--

Well, as long as they express how they feel about it - mission accomplished.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 01, 2015 04:18 PM (oEDuY)

531 For those asking about it being a "gun free zone" the answer is yes. The school website is/was down, but here is an archived copy of the site:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150316175339/http://umpqua.edu/safety-security-information


"Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols, and paint guns) ammunition, explosives, dangerous chemicals, or any other objects as weapons on college property, except as expressly authorized by law or college regulations, is prohibited."

Posted by: thecoat at October 01, 2015 04:18 PM (j3QJG)

532 In order for Hillary to do a podcast they'd have to pay her $250,000.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

You mean make a $250,000 "donation" to the Clinton Foundation. If they paid it directly to her, she'd have to pay taxes on it like an icky working person.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the #Problematic at October 01, 2015 04:18 PM (awspb)

533 Who ran off T9? Or did he get banned? He was easy to rile up.
Posted by: L, Elle

-----

Last I heard, he'd got sent to the sandbox across the pond.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 04:17 PM (D5XRv)




I think he was about to head over there when there was a rift with, um, some other people that post here.

Posted by: Country Singer at October 01, 2015 04:19 PM (nL0sw)

534 my prediction is a pale white dude, with lifeless black eyes and an empty stare. All of these losers seem to have that look.


Red or green clown hair.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 04:19 PM (D5XRv)

535 Perhaps it is a good time to note, nood, a 300 odd post nood at that.

Posted by: rebel flounder at October 01, 2015 04:19 PM (1DH1V)

536 >>>>
In order for Hillary to do a podcast they'd have to pay her $250,000.
.
.
.I got $5 I can chip in.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 01, 2015 04:20 PM (iONHu)

537 "Possession, use, or threatened use of firearms (including but not limited to BB guns, air guns, water pistols
----------------

Really. A water pistol.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:21 PM (Z58Xa)

538 531, et al. Back in 2007 when I started taking classes at my local Comm College (no, I won't say where - That's just gratis intelligence for the crazies out there), I saw the signs advertising that it was a gun free campus. My first reaction was " That's stupid. That just advertises that it's a safe zone for crazies." Nothing bad has happened, and hopefully never will.

Posted by: Coarsehair at October 01, 2015 04:28 PM (21LOa)

539 Last I heard, he'd got sent to the sandbox across the pond.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 01, 2015 04:17 PM (D5XRv)

Thought I saw him here once on a brief return visit but he was shipping out again shortly. This was quite a while back and I haven't seen him here since.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 01, 2015 04:30 PM (ftVQq)

540 CNN just keeps interviewing people who did not see or hear anything

Posted by: toadboy at October 01, 2015 04:31 PM (p+9sO)

541 #531/537...that pertains to open carry of firearms. They advertise as a gun free zone and count on folks not knowing they are permitted to CC if lawfully authorized. The key point is "expressly authorized by law".

Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 04:32 PM (/uJMx)

542 537
Really. A water pistol.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 01, 2015 04:21 PM (Z58Xa)


Well, you know, somebody could fill one with hydrochloric acid or something.

Posted by: rickl at October 01, 2015 04:32 PM (zoehZ)

543 Current PD news conference says shooter dead

Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 04:39 PM (/uJMx)

544 Sheriff says officers engaged the suspect...no word if shot by LE or self-inflicted.

Posted by: Fish at October 01, 2015 04:40 PM (/uJMx)

545 Fox reporting shooter was asking victims what religion they where
just breaking - nothing else other than 20 year old Male
uh oh

Posted by: Big Star at October 01, 2015 04:52 PM (/wt4l)

546 545 Fox reporting shooter was asking victims what religion they where
just breaking - nothing else other than 20 year old Male
uh oh

Must have been an atheist...

Posted by: donna at October 01, 2015 04:54 PM (hUdMz)

547 "were" not where (I should know better)
watching Cavuto

Posted by: Big Star at October 01, 2015 04:54 PM (/wt4l)

548 Let me be the first to say..."it is a Hoax."

I'm sure "Buzzion" will demand that I provide evidence. Let me start with, "I have no evidence, and will provide none if I had the evidence." And let me finish, by saying that if you believe this is real within the first hours, you are the problem...get the fuck out my country you sheep moron. Stop with the stupid ridiculous emoting as usual....

Posted by: Idiocracy Civilian at October 01, 2015 05:00 PM (SJi0a)

549 From breakingnews.com:

Editor's note: A student interviewed by Roseburg, Ore., newspaper @nrtoday, said she was in the classroom at the time Umpqua Community College shooting. The student said she saw the gunman asking people to stand up and state their religion and then start firing. - Jillian

Posted by: peacelovewoodstock at October 01, 2015 05:12 PM (X+HRW)

550 Fish - no idea what the school is like, but with the way some of these schools want to be a mini cosmos and handle things like rape internally, even with a CHL a student may be risking expulsion if it were ever found out. While you couldn't be prosecuted by the state of Oregon the school may be able to kick you out.

Posted by: thecoat at October 01, 2015 05:17 PM (j3QJG)

551 548 Let me be the first to say..."it is a Hoax."

I'm sure "Buzzion" will demand that I provide evidence. Let me start with, "I have no evidence, and will provide none if I had the evidence." And let me finish, by saying that if you believe this is real within the first hours, you are the problem...get the fuck out my country you sheep moron. Stop with the stupid ridiculous emoting as usual....
Posted by: Idiocracy Civilian at October 01, 2015 05:00 PM (SJi0a)

- - -

wat.

Posted by: Community Organizer at October 01, 2015 05:29 PM (9VLhN)

552 Did the shooter have a clock in a pencil box?

Anybody think politics involved in keeping shooter's name unknown?

Posted by: the l.s.m. at October 01, 2015 05:32 PM (c7gQM)

553 "There was only one security officer on duty and that person was unarmed, the former president of Umpqua Community College told the Associated Press.

The wire service reports that Joel Olson said one of the biggest debates on campus was whether the school should have armed security officers. He said the college had three training exercises with local law agencies in the past two years, "but you can never be prepared for something like this.""

http://tinyurl.com/odfreko

Well you certainly can't be prepared when they won't let you be prepared.

@the l.s.m - All that has been said about the shooter is that they were a "male", and we all know what it means when other descriptors are so absent.

Posted by: thecoat at October 01, 2015 05:52 PM (j3QJG)

554 Perhaps this was asked earlier, but why was the ATF primed and ready to respond? And en route to a local, active shooting with multiple agents?

I smell smoke (Reichstag's)

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 01, 2015 05:55 PM (zLv2s)

555 "but why was the ATF primed and ready to respond?"

Shhhhhh....you're going to scare the children who believe Fox News, CNN and MSNBC are places where you get news. Just go along to get along...it's the cool thing to do!

Posted by: I'm embarrassed to be American at October 01, 2015 06:04 PM (SJi0a)

556
Revengeagainst Alek Skarlatos (of Roseburg)?

Posted by: tOM at October 01, 2015 06:10 PM (wBro8)

557 Test?

Posted by: Nip Sip at October 05, 2015 03:39 PM (jJRIy)

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